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[indistinct radio chatter]
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[distant sirens]
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[gentle music]
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- I'm nobody.
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I'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo.
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I'm a boxcar
and a jug of wine.
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[helicopter whirring]
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You think that my mind is
like your mind, but it isn't.
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There's no need
to feel guilty.
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I haven't done anything
I'm ashamed of.
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Because we're outlaws.
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[music intensifies]
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Yeah, when you're in war,
you're in war, mister.
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Believe me, if I started
murdering people,
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there'd be none of you left.
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♪
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- Friday night
in Los Angeles,
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a movie actress and four
of her friends were murdered.
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The circumstances were lurid.
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- In a scene described
by one investigator
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as reminiscent of
a weird religious rite...
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- This was at the home of
movie director Roman Polanski.
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It was his wife...
- Eight months pregnant.
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- ...who was one
of the victims.
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- Bodies were
scattered inside,
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on the lawn and the driveway.
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- The others were
a male hairdresser,
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the heiress to
a coffee fortune, a writer,
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and a boy just out
of high school.
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- A scene more tragic
than any horror movie.
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- Stunned the city
and shocked the world.
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- In all my years
I have never seen anything
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like this before.
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- You all know it?
- No.
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- At 8:30 this morning,
Winifred Chapman,
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an employee,
came to work at 10050 Cielo
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and found several bodies
in the house,
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and immediately the police
were notified.
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The tentative identification
of the persons are as follows.
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Sharon Polanski,
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Jay Sebring,
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Wojciech Frykowski,
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Abigail Folger,
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and another man
who is unknown.
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- Where were the bodies found?
All in one room?
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- No, two of the bodies
were found inside the house,
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one in a vehicle,
and two on the front lawn.
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- We understand she was
pregnant, is that correct?
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- Yes, she is pregnant, but
I'm not going to discuss how--
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- Were any of the bodies
badly mutilated?
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- This I'd rather
not discuss.
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- Was there anything scrawled
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on the front door
of that house in blood?
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- I can't answer
that question.
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♪
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- Do you have
any kind of an idea
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of who might have done it?
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Do you have any kind of
APBs out, any suspects at all?
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- No, the only person we have
at this time is Mr. Garretson,
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whom we are questioning,
because he was on the premises
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this morning
when the maid arrived.
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- Why is this case more
complicated than other cases
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that you can't comment?
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What's the difference
in this case?
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- Well, how many cases
and how many times do you have
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five persons that are found
murdered at the same time?
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- ♪ Around, around
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- Living is what scares me.
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Dying is easy.
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- And a short time later,
not far away,
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a middle-aged couple
was found murdered
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in similar circumstances.
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- The latest murders were
discovered during the night.
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The bodies of a man and his
wife found in their home.
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Leno LaBianca,
a supermarket owner,
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and his wife had both
been stabbed to death,
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repeated stab wounds.
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On his body, the word "war"
had been carved in the chest.
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Then, with blood, the killer
had scrawled the words
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"death to pigs."
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♪
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- Oh my God,
it's happened again.
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- The slaughter
of innocent people.
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- That set off a panic state
in Los Angeles.
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- People locked
their doors at night.
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People started
arming themselves.
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[police sirens]
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[tense music]
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[gentle music]
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♪
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- We thought
she was a British star.
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Come to find out,
she's an American all the time.
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A beautiful young lady you're
gonna be hearing a lot from.
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She's in London filming
"The Vampire Killers,"
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a new film by director
Roman Polanski.
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Sharon Tate
is the young lady's name.
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- I was born
in Dallas, Texas.
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- And lived all of your life
in America?
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- Not really, I lived
in Italy for four years.
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- Why was that?
- My dad's in the Army.
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- An Army brat made good, huh?
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- Yeah, I try.
- Oh, that's great.
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And now you have
a monster movie.
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- And now--not really.
- What's it called?
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- It's called "The Vampire
Killers," Roman Polanski.
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- Sharon?
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Sharon?
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Looking at him,
not at me, okay?
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- Looking at the husband?
- Yeah.
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- You know, uh--
- Yeah.
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- Quiet in the back.
- Turnover.
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- During that period
when I was in London,
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I remember an instant
when I was thinking,
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"I'm happy now and
I don't want anything else."
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- London: two top film
folk got spliced,
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and the present public
turned out in force.
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He is Polish-born director
Roman Polanski.
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She's American
actress Sharon Tate.
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And the huge public interest
their wedding created
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shows that the magic
of motion pictures
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is as strong today as ever.
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After the ceremony
at Chelsea Registry Office,
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the mini-gowned bride
and the mod-geared mate
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made for the Playboy Club
and a star-studded reception.
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Bunnies lavished champagne
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on some of the top names
in show business.
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Michael Caine
keeping company
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with very dishy
Candice Bergen.
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The bride will keep working.
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Hubby says he wants
a hippie, not a housewife.
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That was the only serious
note of the day.
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Tony Newley got the star
set really shaking.
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[upbeat music]
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- California.
Mean temperature 73 degrees.
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The sun that never quits.
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It acts on the unburned
hydrocarbons
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and oxides of nitrogen
from auto exhaust.
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Los Angeles County,
with four million cars
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and the odd bike suffers most
because it's in a basin.
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The breezes are balmy.
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There's nothing to stir up
that brown cloud
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that can make
your eyes tear.
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85% of it attributed to cars.
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The more general effect, our whole climate is warming up
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because there's so much
carbon dioxide in the air.
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It's so heavy that it prevents
the radiation of heat
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from the Earth's surface.
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[inhales deeply]
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Ahh, breathe in, city folk.
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[Charles Manson's
"Don't Do Anything Illegal"]
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♪
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- ♪ Don't do
anything illegal ♪
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♪ Beware of the eagle
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♪ That's right
in the middle of your back ♪
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♪ Don't be illegal ♪
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♪ They got
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♪ You in a sack
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♪ They got you in a sack ♪
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♪ And they keep you
looking back ♪
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♪
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♪ Don't do anything illegal
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♪ Beware of the eagle
that's got you by the neck ♪
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♪
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- This is where they lived,
among the stables, barns,
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and phony buildings
of an old,
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run-down movie location
20 miles from Los Angeles.
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They called themselves
"The Family."
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- ♪ I gotta see your ID
my friend ♪
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♪ I gotta see
where you begin ♪
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♪ I gotta see your ID
my friend ♪
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- Back and forth,
lugging their sleeping bags.
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They just lived anywhere
they felt like it.
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With they're family.
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- They were constantly
taking dope,
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and they just
sit around all day
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and sleep and got loaded.
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- Police said they were
a pseudo-religious cult.
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The family's leader,
Charles Manson--
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- He's a good person.
A very good person.
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He's got a lot of peace.
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- He was introduced to us
as their idol and leader,
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and he was always
interested in music.
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And everywhere he went, some
of the girls kinda followed him
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and laughed and talk and sang.
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- Well, when I first met him,
the man talked to me,
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and he says,
"Why don't you come up?"
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"and the rules are that,
you know, there is no rules."
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"You just look at it,
and just be beautiful with it,
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and it's just
beautiful to you."
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- Yeah.
- You know, and I love him.
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- His so-called power, which is-it only lies in his happiness.
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That's what attracts people
is he's completely happy.
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- And warm.
- Gentle.
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He dances, he sings,
he looks beautiful,
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he looks happy,
and this draws a lot of people,
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just like people
are drawn to little babies.
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- That's all there is,
that's all there is,
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is brothers and sisters,
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and Charles Manson
is your brother.
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- Morning.
- Why?
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- Sun's shining this morning.
- It is.
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- Yeah.
- Well, what are your plans?
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- I have none.
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Going to the desert.
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- Desert?
- Yeah.
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- So you were 14, 15, 16
during that time?
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- I met him when I was 14.
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He was kind of impish
and playful, you know?
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He could be funny.
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[gentle music]
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♪
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He was in the circle
playing music,
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and he got up and
offered me his root beer,
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and gave me a big hug,
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and "Come,
join us in the circle."
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We, you know,
"We've been waiting for you."
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It just all ended up seeming,
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you know, like providence
or something.
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♪
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Spahn Ranch had been a movie
set for lots of westerns.
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And when we first saw it,
that's what it was.
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It was kind of
a run-down movie set.
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The corral was way to the left
and there was a big barn.
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There was the jail
and there was a big saloon.
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But there were
rooms behind them.
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And then there was
the kitchen.
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There was a band of, like,
we called them outlaw shacks.
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And then all the way to
the right was George's house.
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He was blind,
and it definitely showed.
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You know, the house was
in as bad disrepair as,
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you know, the facade.
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It needed paint,
inside and out.
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And we cleaned.
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You know, there was always
tons of sweeping to do.
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We mucked out the stalls.
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And we helped out
in the corral.
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We helped rent the horses.
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There were trails all over for
riding horses into the hills
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where all
the fabulous rocks are.
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We got high.
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Obviously, we got high.
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You know, I could just
remember dancing together
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and just, you know,
maybe cooking.
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Helms Bakery would come by
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and give us their day-old
stuff at the ranch.
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And Charlie introduced us
to dumpster diving
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behind the grocery stores.
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We had our favorite ones,
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because they had better food
that they threw out.
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You know, in the beginning,
it was different.
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I mean, there was just like
six of us girls.
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Mary was pretty reserved,
actually.
253
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You know,
she was very quiet.
254
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Mary really was like
the matriarch of the Family.
255
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I think Mary probably
a little bit resented,
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you know, like all of us did,
sharing Charlie.
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Patty Krenwinkel
was just like Mother Earth,
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I mean, she was just
one of the sweetest, humblest,
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most nurturing girls
in the Family.
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Leslie, she was just like
a giggly high schooler.
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I viewed her
as a little hottie,
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and I hadn't been
to high school.
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She'd been like
a homecoming queen,
264
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and she really
came off like that.
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Sandy was very smart,
but she was very needy.
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You got that sense
that she was entitled.
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She has remained
one of Charlie's
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most ardent followers.
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Susan Atkins was definitely
more worldly.
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She'd been a stripper, maybe
she'd even been a sex worker.
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You know, she'd been
around the block.
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Gypsy came to the Family
at Spahn Ranch.
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Gypsy liked that lifestyle.
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She was playful.
She played the violin.
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She was definitely
a true hippie.
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I was closest
to, really, Lynette.
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Lynette was kind of
looking out after George.
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Lynette was really the closest
confidante to Charlie.
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He confided more in her
than anybody.
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And I think that Charlie
played a different role
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for each one of us.
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I was falling
under Charlie's spell.
283
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- We were in a group marriage
with all the lines blurred.
284
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We were brothers, sisters,
285
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mothers, fathers, lovers,
everything to each other.
286
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One of the reasons
we were pulled to Charlie
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was because
he was a musician.
288
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All of us wanted
to be musicians,
289
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and that's what we did every
single night is play music.
290
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[upbeat guitar music]
291
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- ♪ Walking all alone
not going anywhere ♪
292
00:16:31,555 --> 00:16:35,645
♪ Walking all alone
and nobody seemed to care ♪
293
00:16:35,690 --> 00:16:40,040
♪ Restless as the wind,
this town is killing me ♪
294
00:16:40,086 --> 00:16:43,696
♪ Got to put an end
to this restless misery ♪
295
00:16:47,354 --> 00:16:50,314
- Usually we'd get
in the circle,
296
00:16:50,357 --> 00:16:54,747
and Charlie would
administer the acid,
297
00:16:54,796 --> 00:16:57,276
like a sacrament, almost.
298
00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:04,757
Taking LSD, you can see
the trees growing.
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I mean, you just
really feel like at one
300
00:17:07,809 --> 00:17:11,159
with the Earth
and the universe.
301
00:17:11,204 --> 00:17:12,424
I mean,
you just kind of like,
302
00:17:12,466 --> 00:17:15,726
everything starts
making more sense.
303
00:17:20,213 --> 00:17:22,083
And then at some point,
304
00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:25,698
he would orchestrate
a love-in,
305
00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:29,740
you know, an orgy,
for lack of a better word.
306
00:17:29,787 --> 00:17:32,527
I mean, we didn't think
of it as an orgy,
307
00:17:32,573 --> 00:17:34,753
but that's really what it was.
308
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[gentle music]
309
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We were dependent
upon each other.
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He didn't want us to think
about our families.
311
00:17:46,282 --> 00:17:48,422
Forget your parents.
312
00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:50,550
You know,
get rid of your inhibitions.
313
00:17:50,591 --> 00:17:53,551
You know, what the outside
society says is wrong.
314
00:17:53,594 --> 00:17:55,994
You know, we're going
in the right direction.
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♪
316
00:18:00,470 --> 00:18:03,560
[The Litter's "Action Woman"]
317
00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:08,264
♪
318
00:18:08,304 --> 00:18:11,394
- ♪ Hey Miss High and Mighty
319
00:18:11,438 --> 00:18:15,088
♪ I've had all I can take
320
00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:18,357
♪ Walking right on by me
321
00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:21,750
♪ That's your last mistake ♪
322
00:18:21,796 --> 00:18:25,626
♪ I've got to find
myself some action ♪
323
00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:28,589
♪ Before I lose my mind
324
00:18:28,629 --> 00:18:31,239
- This is Hollywood,
the most famous,
325
00:18:31,284 --> 00:18:33,334
the most glamorous place
in the world.
326
00:18:33,373 --> 00:18:36,163
It's a place of dreams,
hopes, and riches.
327
00:18:36,202 --> 00:18:38,992
Let's go Hollywood backstage
and see this unique
328
00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:41,950
and fascinating place
called Hollywood.
329
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:44,780
♪
330
00:18:44,819 --> 00:18:49,909
- The Hollywood scene
was quite a vibrant scene.
331
00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:53,834
It was a period when
the Beach Boys were very big,
332
00:18:53,871 --> 00:18:56,051
Buffalo Springfield,
the Byrds.
333
00:18:56,091 --> 00:18:59,491
They were all coming up fast.
They were all big.
334
00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:01,792
The scene in the nightclubs
335
00:19:01,836 --> 00:19:05,056
was a crazy mélange
of characters
336
00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,620
from the rock and roll world
337
00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:08,667
and characters
from the underworld.
338
00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:13,629
You could see the celebrities
hanging out
339
00:19:13,674 --> 00:19:18,244
at Jack Hanson's Daisy Club
in Beverly Hills.
340
00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:23,989
Jack Hanson and his wife,
Sally, designed Jack Slacks.
341
00:19:24,032 --> 00:19:25,992
- Hollywood is the place
342
00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:28,474
where women
started wearing pants,
343
00:19:28,515 --> 00:19:30,995
led by Marlene Dietrich
in the '30s.
344
00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:34,349
Slacks are now an accepted
item of feminine apparel.
345
00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:36,650
But at Jack's
of Beverly Hills,
346
00:19:36,697 --> 00:19:39,737
they achieve
a new, impressive status.
347
00:19:39,787 --> 00:19:43,177
- He could make women,
particularly actresses,
348
00:19:43,225 --> 00:19:46,225
look sleek and sexy.
349
00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:48,062
Jack made a lot
of money from it,
350
00:19:48,099 --> 00:19:50,539
and he opened his own club.
351
00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:53,020
You didn't apply
for membership to Jack's.
352
00:19:53,061 --> 00:19:55,111
You were invited to join.
353
00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:59,240
Steve McQueen, Roman Polanski
there with Sharon Tate.
354
00:19:59,285 --> 00:20:01,325
Then of course,
there was Jay Sebring,
355
00:20:01,374 --> 00:20:03,774
who earned huge
amounts of money
356
00:20:03,811 --> 00:20:07,211
for giving a movie star
a haircut.
357
00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:09,951
And they could go wild,
358
00:20:09,991 --> 00:20:12,041
and they could know
that no paparazzi
359
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,430
would take their picture.
360
00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,694
Drugs were being used.
361
00:20:16,737 --> 00:20:18,777
If you saw it,
you didn't talk about it.
362
00:20:19,783 --> 00:20:22,573
Many stars were
probably looking
363
00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:24,572
for a little bit
of an extra kick,
364
00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:28,274
so anybody with kind of
a rough reputation
365
00:20:28,314 --> 00:20:30,404
might have been adopted
into the scene.
366
00:20:44,112 --> 00:20:47,072
- They're doing this movie
in Topanga Canyon,
367
00:20:47,115 --> 00:20:49,155
just a stupid nudie cutie,
368
00:20:49,204 --> 00:20:52,734
and they want a bunch of girls
that can look like Indians.
369
00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:54,913
I read for them,
and they said,
370
00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:59,079
"We'd like to offer you
one of the main roles."
371
00:20:59,127 --> 00:21:02,517
So that was "Ramrodder."
372
00:21:05,046 --> 00:21:08,086
I show up,
and just a little ways off
373
00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:11,966
I see this stunningly
handsome young man.
374
00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:18,323
And he came over, and he got
really, really close,
375
00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:22,594
and he said,
"I'm your love interest."
376
00:21:22,629 --> 00:21:25,809
And he said, "Do you mind
if I get a preview?"
377
00:21:28,025 --> 00:21:30,935
He lifted my top and goes,
378
00:21:30,985 --> 00:21:33,935
"Perfect,
just like I thought."
379
00:21:33,988 --> 00:21:37,298
Turned around and said,
"I'll see you later."
380
00:21:37,339 --> 00:21:38,859
And that's how I met Bobby.
381
00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:44,962
♪
382
00:21:44,999 --> 00:21:48,829
- Topanga was laid back
compared to Los Angeles.
383
00:21:48,872 --> 00:21:51,142
You had the feeling that
you were out in the country,
384
00:21:51,179 --> 00:21:55,009
even though it was
fairly close to civilization.
385
00:21:57,011 --> 00:22:00,141
The first time I met Charlie
was down in the Topanga Canyon
386
00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:01,318
where it meets the highway.
387
00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:07,629
I heard music coming
from this old wooden house.
388
00:22:07,674 --> 00:22:09,984
I went up
the spiral staircase.
389
00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:13,034
There was a guy in a plaid
shirt singing, playing guitar.
390
00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:16,470
I started playing
this little instrument
391
00:22:16,509 --> 00:22:17,989
I found on the table,
392
00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:20,382
and just did the best
I could to fit in
393
00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:22,516
with the man who was singing,
394
00:22:22,558 --> 00:22:26,038
who I was later introduced
to as Charlie.
395
00:22:27,694 --> 00:22:30,174
After I moved into Topanga,
396
00:22:30,218 --> 00:22:32,608
I wanted to try to get
some jobs playing guitar.
397
00:22:33,264 --> 00:22:36,364
One day I did get a call
from the bass player
398
00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:38,358
in a band called
The Milky Way.
399
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,060
The band was built around the
songs that Charlie was doing.
400
00:22:42,752 --> 00:22:46,192
We played at the Topanga Corral I think two nights
401
00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:48,764
or three nights
before we were fired.
402
00:22:50,151 --> 00:22:52,371
I wasn't gonna
join his commune.
403
00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:54,204
I had no interest in that,
404
00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:56,942
but he is a person,
as a musician,
405
00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:59,289
I did have an interest in.
406
00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:01,604
I thought he was
worth investing
407
00:23:01,641 --> 00:23:03,901
a little of myself in.
408
00:23:05,035 --> 00:23:09,905
It was enough of an interest
to me that I kept coming back.
409
00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:17,094
♪ ♪
410
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,410
[mellow guitar music]
411
00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:35,756
- ♪ Pretty girl
412
00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:40,424
- A couple of girls
met Dennis Wilson.
413
00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:42,072
He picked 'em up hitchhiking,
414
00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:44,806
and they introduced him
to Charlie.
415
00:23:44,858 --> 00:23:48,248
- ♪ Cease to exist
416
00:23:48,296 --> 00:23:51,076
♪ Just come
and say you love me ♪
417
00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:53,555
- I think the two must have
hit it off.
418
00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:55,126
Suddenly we were, like,
living there.
419
00:23:56,609 --> 00:23:59,999
- Give up your world ♪
420
00:24:00,047 --> 00:24:03,617
♪ Never learn
not to love you ♪
421
00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:08,189
- When we first drove
into Dennis Wilson's estate,
422
00:24:08,229 --> 00:24:10,359
there was peacocks
roaming around
423
00:24:10,405 --> 00:24:12,835
and big eucalyptus trees,
424
00:24:12,886 --> 00:24:17,016
and just a rambling log home
with a lot of glass.
425
00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:21,979
It was really beautiful.
426
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,806
There was a guest house.
427
00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:30,993
Big swimming pool.
428
00:24:37,345 --> 00:24:41,175
Just a beautiful place,
the inside, huge fireplace.
429
00:24:41,218 --> 00:24:44,218
Fireplace that
you could walk into.
430
00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:49,530
Charlie was teaching Dennis
how to play the guitar,
431
00:24:49,575 --> 00:24:55,615
and Dennis welcomed Charlie
and us girls into his home,
432
00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:59,628
and we would take his Rolls
Royce and go dumpster diving.
433
00:24:59,672 --> 00:25:01,802
We made food,
and he was impressed.
434
00:25:01,848 --> 00:25:04,808
I remember making the
strawberry cake, you know?
435
00:25:04,851 --> 00:25:07,511
And he was like,
"Wow, this came out of a--"
436
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:09,509
You know, "This came out
of a dumpster?"
437
00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,156
He would introduce Charlie
438
00:25:13,207 --> 00:25:16,077
to his other musician friends
with pride.
439
00:25:16,123 --> 00:25:19,173
- [Charlie] Common people,
man, so...
440
00:25:19,213 --> 00:25:23,003
- Both Terry Melcher
and Gregg Jakobson came
441
00:25:23,043 --> 00:25:26,533
and listened to Charlie
play the guitar and sing.
442
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,919
- Dennis called me up
and was very excited,
443
00:25:29,963 --> 00:25:31,403
and said, "Come on,
you've got to meet this guy
444
00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:33,532
and these girls,"
and he went on and on.
445
00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:37,575
And sure enough, it was
quite an interesting scene.
446
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,363
Everybody was having
a good time,
447
00:25:39,407 --> 00:25:41,277
drinking beer,
smoking a joint.
448
00:25:41,322 --> 00:25:43,542
Girls were in
the swimming pool.
449
00:25:44,586 --> 00:25:47,366
Charlie was inside,
and he was very demanding.
450
00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:49,895
He did garner your attention.
451
00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:51,849
He was
a fascinating character.
452
00:25:51,898 --> 00:25:53,378
He was really interesting.
453
00:25:53,421 --> 00:25:55,211
- If you had a camera,
I could dance.
454
00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:57,859
- Dennis used to call
Charlie "the Wizard."
455
00:25:57,904 --> 00:26:01,084
He really thought
that Charlie was magical.
456
00:26:01,124 --> 00:26:03,434
In the beginning,
he was really enamored by him.
457
00:26:03,474 --> 00:26:06,044
- I wrote about a couple
hundred songs, you know?
458
00:26:06,086 --> 00:26:11,566
- Dennis had an affinity
for finding the waifs
459
00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:13,703
and people
that seemed to be misfits.
460
00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:16,226
They would all seem
to find him.
461
00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:19,620
That's where Charlie Manson
came into the scene.
462
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:22,485
He was one
of Dennis's projects.
463
00:26:22,537 --> 00:26:25,237
- [chuckles] Huh?
Yeah, well, I mean, you know--
464
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,809
- He wasn't a friend of mine,
but I knew him.
465
00:26:29,849 --> 00:26:33,069
And he would find
the places that we were,
466
00:26:33,113 --> 00:26:35,903
and he would just be there.
467
00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:38,422
I just thought he was
a seedy little character,
468
00:26:38,466 --> 00:26:41,426
and I just, you know,
and he also didn't bathe.
469
00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:42,949
And none of those people did.
470
00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:45,732
And so you knew
he was there a block away,
471
00:26:45,778 --> 00:26:48,428
just, you know,
'cause that's who he was.
472
00:26:48,476 --> 00:26:50,736
- The smartest people
in the world
473
00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,963
are really the most cut off.
474
00:26:54,308 --> 00:26:56,918
- And he would make you
listen to this guy,
475
00:26:56,963 --> 00:26:58,923
and people were doing it
to humor Dennis,
476
00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:00,745
or because of who he was,
477
00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:02,803
people were giving him
the respect.
478
00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:05,358
- Take all the words away
479
00:27:05,406 --> 00:27:06,966
and don't think
in right and wrong.
480
00:27:07,016 --> 00:27:10,536
Just think in truth
and all the answers are there.
481
00:27:10,585 --> 00:27:12,275
The weirdest thing was
482
00:27:12,326 --> 00:27:14,676
first the parties
were in the guest house,
483
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,940
and this Manson and his crew
would be there.
484
00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:19,553
And then it
kind of flipped itself,
485
00:27:19,594 --> 00:27:22,954
and Dennis moved those people
into his house,
486
00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:26,469
and he stayed in the guest
house on his own property.
487
00:27:26,514 --> 00:27:31,394
So, for some reason, Charlie
was able to manipulate him.
488
00:27:31,432 --> 00:27:33,002
- Oh, yeah, this'll make
you some money.
489
00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:34,702
This is a money song, yeah.
490
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:37,130
- Charles had convinced him
that the music
491
00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:38,957
that he was playing was good,
492
00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:41,485
and that he was
gonna be a superstar,
493
00:27:41,529 --> 00:27:44,359
and so I guess Dennis
went along with it,
494
00:27:44,401 --> 00:27:47,141
I guess, and tried
introducing him to people,
495
00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:49,967
and to try to get him
a record deal and all of that.
496
00:27:50,016 --> 00:27:51,886
- You do whatever
you feel, man.
497
00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:53,191
- Yeah, well, then I won't--
I won't do--
498
00:27:53,236 --> 00:27:54,536
- You know, whatever comes
in your mind.
499
00:27:54,585 --> 00:27:56,675
- Yeah, all right.
- I'm just sitting here,
500
00:27:56,718 --> 00:27:58,498
gonna groove with you
for the next hour and a half,
501
00:27:58,546 --> 00:27:59,806
or hour and 45--
502
00:27:59,852 --> 00:28:01,982
- We went to Brian Wilson's
503
00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:05,678
to a session that they were
gonna record maybe a demo.
504
00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:09,044
- Let's see, hmm-hm.
505
00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:10,208
[gentle guitar music]
506
00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:14,953
♪ There's a time for living
507
00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:20,696
♪ The time keeps on flying ♪
508
00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:24,048
♪ Think you're loving baby ♪
509
00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:27,013
♪ And all you're doing
is crying ♪
510
00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:31,193
♪ Can you feel
are those feelings real ♪
511
00:28:31,231 --> 00:28:34,231
♪ Look at your game, girl
512
00:28:35,888 --> 00:28:39,718
♪ Look at your game, girl
513
00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:43,591
♪ What a sad, sad game
514
00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:47,074
♪ Mad game
515
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:52,250
♪ Sad game
516
00:29:11,097 --> 00:29:13,227
- Summer was coming
to an end.
517
00:29:13,273 --> 00:29:14,583
At some point,
Dennis would have to leave.
518
00:29:14,622 --> 00:29:16,282
The Beach Boys
were gonna go on the road.
519
00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:21,023
And that's when things
would start to fall apart.
520
00:29:22,282 --> 00:29:24,462
I remember at one point
Dennis is gone,
521
00:29:24,501 --> 00:29:26,631
One of the accountants
for Dennis says,
522
00:29:26,677 --> 00:29:31,467
"You have a $1,200
Alta Dena Dairy bill."
523
00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:33,815
They were
charging everything.
524
00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:35,689
They would--The Alta Dena
Dairy man would, like,
525
00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:38,250
be unloading his truck
there at the place.
526
00:29:38,298 --> 00:29:40,778
So that started
to play on Dennis.
527
00:29:41,127 --> 00:29:43,607
He didn't want people
to take advantage of him,
528
00:29:43,651 --> 00:29:46,351
nobody does, and that became
more and more apparent
529
00:29:46,393 --> 00:29:48,483
that that's
what was going on.
530
00:29:49,352 --> 00:29:51,352
That was, maybe more
than anything else,
531
00:29:51,398 --> 00:29:53,788
the formal beginning
of the split,
532
00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,785
of going their separate ways.
533
00:29:57,578 --> 00:29:59,618
He was gonna go away
for two weeks, on the road,
534
00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:01,147
and he said, "Gregg,
can you get me out of here?
535
00:30:01,190 --> 00:30:02,980
Can you find a house for me?"
536
00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:05,666
So, literally, I hired
a moving company
537
00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:08,326
to take Dennis's personal
stuff out of there.
538
00:30:10,243 --> 00:30:12,293
And the whole idea
was to not let
539
00:30:12,332 --> 00:30:13,862
the girls and Charlie know.
540
00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:15,939
He was really trying
to divorce himself from that.
541
00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:17,638
He was really done with it.
542
00:30:17,685 --> 00:30:19,555
all: We want the Beach Boys!
543
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,860
We want the Beach Boys!
We want the Beach Boys!
544
00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:28,391
[dramatic music]
545
00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:36,051
♪
546
00:30:37,226 --> 00:30:41,836
- In 1967, '68 and '69,
547
00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:46,495
we had bigotry,
racial prejudice.
548
00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:49,540
[all chanting]
549
00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:52,806
And there were race riots
in every major American city.
550
00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:55,506
- The simple fact is this.
551
00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:59,069
We are in the worst crisis we
have known since the Civil War.
552
00:30:59,118 --> 00:31:00,508
And time is running short
553
00:31:00,554 --> 00:31:02,774
to try to find
some answers to it.
554
00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:07,167
[all singing]
555
00:31:07,213 --> 00:31:09,223
This was the image
of the negro revolution
556
00:31:09,258 --> 00:31:11,168
only a few years ago.
557
00:31:11,217 --> 00:31:14,087
Negro and white,
side by side.
558
00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:16,353
Patient negroes.
559
00:31:16,396 --> 00:31:19,176
The violence we saw was quite.
560
00:31:19,225 --> 00:31:21,175
We saw negroes hosed
and beaten,
561
00:31:21,227 --> 00:31:22,917
harassed with dogs.
562
00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:28,360
Then, abruptly, shatteringly,
the images were different.
563
00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:32,718
"Burn, baby, burn" drowned out
"We shall overcome."
564
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,590
♪
565
00:31:40,246 --> 00:31:42,636
- America is shocked
and saddened
566
00:31:42,683 --> 00:31:48,433
by the brutal slaying tonight
of Dr. Martin Luther King.
567
00:31:48,471 --> 00:31:54,831
I ask every citizen to reject
the blind violence
568
00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:58,049
that has struck Dr. King.
569
00:31:58,090 --> 00:32:00,400
- When the racists
shot Martin Luther King,
570
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,750
the bullet that killed him
killed non-violence.
571
00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:06,050
- During rebellions, brother,
you got to stop looting
572
00:32:06,098 --> 00:32:07,748
and start shooting.
573
00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:08,925
Black power, brothers.
574
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:10,670
- Black power!
575
00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:13,241
- Charlie Manson thought
black people were inferior,
576
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,319
but he also feared them.
577
00:32:15,368 --> 00:32:19,108
He began by being afraid
of the black Muslims in prison.
578
00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:20,944
[all chanting]
579
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:24,552
So what Charlie talks about
is a race war's coming.
580
00:32:25,334 --> 00:32:29,084
- The call was for violence,
and it filled the air,
581
00:32:29,121 --> 00:32:31,301
it seemed, everywhere.
582
00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:33,689
I saw myself reflected
583
00:32:33,734 --> 00:32:36,564
in the wildness
of their hopes and stares.
584
00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:43,135
- We have been too non-violent!
Too non-violent!
585
00:32:43,178 --> 00:32:45,788
- You are either for it
or you are against it.
586
00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:50,753
- There is no such thing
as a non-violent revolution!
587
00:32:51,273 --> 00:32:53,193
- He was convincing them,
588
00:32:53,232 --> 00:32:56,102
they were either gonna be
murdered by the blacks,
589
00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:58,498
or the blacks
would make them slaves.
590
00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:01,721
♪
591
00:33:02,545 --> 00:33:05,105
The problem for a guru
is if you promise
592
00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:06,717
that some great thing
is gonna happen
593
00:33:06,767 --> 00:33:09,377
and it doesn't, you've
let down your followers.
594
00:33:09,422 --> 00:33:11,862
You don't have
the magic after all.
595
00:33:11,902 --> 00:33:14,692
So you've got to do
the sleight of hand.
596
00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:18,473
He's playing them the Beatles'
"White Album" over and over,
597
00:33:18,518 --> 00:33:21,478
and "Hear the messages
the Beatles are sending us."
598
00:33:21,521 --> 00:33:24,131
"Blackbird"
works in very well,
599
00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:26,736
"Piggies"
works in very well.
600
00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,307
Then there's the song,
"Helter Skelter,"
601
00:33:28,354 --> 00:33:30,054
coming down fast.
602
00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:36,494
One of Charlie's basic creeds
is that there is no crime,
603
00:33:36,536 --> 00:33:40,406
there is no sin,
that it's all just a game,
604
00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:42,503
and that God's getting ready
605
00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:45,502
to pull down the curtain
on this game
606
00:33:45,545 --> 00:33:49,195
and start it over again
with his chosen people.
607
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,770
And that when
Helter Skelter comes down,
608
00:33:51,812 --> 00:33:54,862
that the cities
are gonna be mass hysteria,
609
00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:56,692
and that the beast will fall,
610
00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:58,560
and the black man
will take over.
611
00:33:59,254 --> 00:34:01,524
♪
612
00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:03,521
- So what do you want to do?
You want to die,
613
00:34:03,563 --> 00:34:05,523
or do you want to come with me
and rule the world?
614
00:34:05,565 --> 00:34:07,045
[all chanting]
615
00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:11,218
♪
616
00:34:16,402 --> 00:34:19,102
- These communes undergo
a metamorphosis
617
00:34:19,144 --> 00:34:21,064
as this kind of culture
is established.
618
00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:24,632
I think it's rather benign,
but as it continues on,
619
00:34:24,671 --> 00:34:27,111
I think the degree
of criminality increases
620
00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:30,112
until the whole spectrum
of criminal activity
621
00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,585
is ultimately a result.
622
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:36,070
[indistinct chatter]
623
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,210
- We'd been at Dennis's house.
624
00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:43,733
That had all,
you know, ended.
625
00:34:43,777 --> 00:34:48,517
Dennis had moved out, and then
we moved back to Spahn Ranch.
626
00:34:48,825 --> 00:34:51,645
And that's when things
627
00:34:51,698 --> 00:34:56,088
started going a little,
little crazier.
628
00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:03,583
The recording thing had--
didn't go well with Dennis.
629
00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:06,763
And then they were still
kind of dangling a carrot,
630
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,280
you know, to make a record,
and then that didn't happen.
631
00:35:10,325 --> 00:35:13,285
And after that,
632
00:35:13,328 --> 00:35:16,718
then all the energy
was about getting money.
633
00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:21,771
We got introduced
to the desert.
634
00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:24,595
Race war, the Helter Skelter
was gonna take place,
635
00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:26,824
and that this was gonna be
a hiding place.
636
00:35:26,863 --> 00:35:28,873
[uneasy music]
637
00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:32,429
Most of the people
on the Earth would be gone,
638
00:35:32,478 --> 00:35:35,048
and so he wanted
beautiful people
639
00:35:35,089 --> 00:35:38,139
to help repopulate and rule.
640
00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:39,569
[coyotes howling]
641
00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:43,175
And that's when I realized
everything had changed.
642
00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:47,668
♪
643
00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:51,800
The Straight Satans, the
motorcycle gang was involved,
644
00:35:51,845 --> 00:35:54,625
and there were knives,
and there were guns.
645
00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:56,984
They were
like a protection,
646
00:35:57,024 --> 00:36:00,854
and a provider of weapons.
647
00:36:04,031 --> 00:36:06,821
Danny DeCarlo was probably
like the leader,
648
00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:11,650
or the most vocal and
the most friendly with Charlie.
649
00:36:11,691 --> 00:36:13,651
- When did Charlie
start to change.
650
00:36:13,693 --> 00:36:16,173
Initially he
didn't like the guns.
651
00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:17,647
- A couple months,
652
00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:20,347
because at first
he wasn't into it, you know?
653
00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,182
When I first went to the
ranch, I brought everything.
654
00:36:23,224 --> 00:36:25,234
I brought my whole arsenal up.
655
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:27,230
You know, I had three rifles,
I had a couple of handguns,
656
00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:28,882
I brought a machine gun
out there.
657
00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:31,885
He got that machine gun
like John Wayne,
658
00:36:31,928 --> 00:36:33,188
spray that thing
all over the place,
659
00:36:33,234 --> 00:36:35,024
and bullets went everywhere.
660
00:36:35,062 --> 00:36:36,722
It made him feel good.
661
00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:39,405
We had fun.
662
00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:41,328
We had fun shooting guns.
663
00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:43,383
Forgot about that.
I did.
664
00:36:43,418 --> 00:36:44,768
- Who was the best shot?
665
00:36:44,811 --> 00:36:46,511
- Sadie.
I'd say Sadie was.
666
00:36:46,552 --> 00:36:48,902
You know,
firing the machine gun.
667
00:36:48,945 --> 00:36:50,555
- Did she get off on that?
668
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,859
- Oh, everybody did.
I did too, watching them.
669
00:36:53,907 --> 00:36:56,337
[chuckles]
670
00:36:56,388 --> 00:37:00,088
♪
671
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:04,609
- Back at Spahn Ranch,
now they're really building up
672
00:37:04,657 --> 00:37:08,527
this kind of army,
you know, really,
673
00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:13,144
and trying to get money
to fund guns and gas,
674
00:37:13,187 --> 00:37:16,357
and the different vehicles.
675
00:37:16,408 --> 00:37:22,888
♪
676
00:37:22,936 --> 00:37:25,236
[horse neighs]
677
00:37:34,339 --> 00:37:38,079
- Charlie sent word to Bobby,
who was living in Hollywood,
678
00:37:38,125 --> 00:37:40,555
with his then-girlfriend
Kitty Lutesinger,
679
00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:42,996
to come help us get protected.
680
00:37:43,043 --> 00:37:44,783
So Bobby came on the ranch,
681
00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:46,607
and he hung out
with the bikers,
682
00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:48,435
and he got enthralled
with them.
683
00:37:48,483 --> 00:37:51,573
He thought, you know,
iron horses, freedom,
684
00:37:51,617 --> 00:37:54,707
so he wanted
to be a prospect.
685
00:37:56,796 --> 00:37:59,756
- I really wanted to be
a part of it, you know?
686
00:37:59,799 --> 00:38:04,629
I was a wannabe and
I wanted to be accepted.
687
00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:07,113
I was building a bike,
I liked the lifestyle.
688
00:38:07,154 --> 00:38:08,944
The whole motorcycle culture,
689
00:38:08,982 --> 00:38:12,462
the biker culture represented
a kind of freedom
690
00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:14,767
that I longed for.
691
00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:18,644
I wanted to ingratiate
myself with the club.
692
00:38:18,687 --> 00:38:20,687
And when I heard
that they were looking
693
00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:22,783
to get some
sort of party drug,
694
00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:26,002
I offered to, you know,
score for them.
695
00:38:26,565 --> 00:38:28,645
The only guy I knew
who might have anything
696
00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:31,307
that would have been
of interest to them was Gary.
697
00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,792
After I left San Francisco
and went to L.A.,
698
00:38:35,835 --> 00:38:39,315
I met Gary Hinman,
who was a friend of a friend.
699
00:38:40,274 --> 00:38:44,634
He let me rent
for a very low rental fee
700
00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:47,890
the basement
of his little house.
701
00:38:48,804 --> 00:38:51,074
He had a baby grand piano
in the living room,
702
00:38:51,111 --> 00:38:54,851
which was also his bedroom
and also his library.
703
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:58,810
He did teach piano
out at UCLA,
704
00:38:58,858 --> 00:39:01,508
played piano
for a dance troupe.
705
00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:06,999
- Gary loved music.
He loved books.
706
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,870
He went on to pursue
a master's program.
707
00:39:11,261 --> 00:39:15,531
His mother was very proud
of his musical ability.
708
00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:19,359
He became involved
with Buddhism,
709
00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:21,662
and he and his parents
710
00:39:21,707 --> 00:39:25,487
were going to go to Japan
on a pilgrimage.
711
00:39:25,537 --> 00:39:27,837
His parents were paying
for the trip.
712
00:39:27,887 --> 00:39:30,057
He did not have
the money to do that.
713
00:39:31,717 --> 00:39:34,547
Gary was a gentle
human being.
714
00:39:36,156 --> 00:39:39,026
- Gary wasn't like
a real dealer by any means.
715
00:39:39,072 --> 00:39:40,682
He was just a guy
who sometimes
716
00:39:40,726 --> 00:39:42,676
helped to make ends meet
717
00:39:42,728 --> 00:39:45,248
by selling a little bit
of pot to his friends.
718
00:39:45,687 --> 00:39:48,077
Yeah, I did know
that Gary had some mescaline
719
00:39:48,124 --> 00:39:50,084
and Straight Satans
gave me some money
720
00:39:50,126 --> 00:39:51,686
to go score from Gary,
721
00:39:51,737 --> 00:39:54,087
and I went
and got mescaline for them.
722
00:39:54,783 --> 00:39:57,963
It was a really
stupid idea on my part
723
00:39:58,004 --> 00:40:00,144
that mescaline would be
a good thing
724
00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:02,660
to give to some bikers
for a party.
725
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:08,140
They came back to me
and confronted me,
726
00:40:08,188 --> 00:40:10,448
saying that they thought
it was bunk.
727
00:40:10,495 --> 00:40:12,705
Some of the guys
had gotten sick on it.
728
00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:15,108
If guys are drinking beer
and popping red devils,
729
00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:17,241
they take mescaline
on top of that,
730
00:40:17,284 --> 00:40:19,114
yeah, they're gonna get sick.
731
00:40:20,026 --> 00:40:23,246
They wanted to get
their money back.
732
00:40:23,290 --> 00:40:26,250
[tense music]
733
00:40:26,293 --> 00:40:31,473
♪
734
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,090
I thought I could just explain
what the problem was,
735
00:40:36,129 --> 00:40:37,999
and he would give me
the money back.
736
00:40:40,176 --> 00:40:43,916
Bruce and Danny drove me over,
and Mary Brunner and Sadie
737
00:40:43,963 --> 00:40:45,833
asked me
if they could come along,
738
00:40:45,878 --> 00:40:47,448
because they were
friends of Gary's.
739
00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:51,799
Honestly, I didn't think
it was gonna be a big deal.
740
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,970
I had the gun because
Bruce had given it to me.
741
00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:57,457
I guess Danny recommended
that I take the gun,
742
00:40:57,498 --> 00:40:59,808
and that it'd be, you know,
this sort of confrontation.
743
00:40:59,848 --> 00:41:01,498
I didn't see it that way,
744
00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:04,156
because I didn't see
Gary that way.
745
00:41:05,245 --> 00:41:07,765
We talked about it, and I
told him what had happened,
746
00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:10,473
and he says, "Well, Bobby,
I don't have the money."
747
00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:14,117
He showed me his wallet
and his checkbook.
748
00:41:14,167 --> 00:41:17,127
He had $57
in his checking account
749
00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:18,950
and a few bucks
in his wallet.
750
00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:21,648
And then I was starting
to get frantic.
751
00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:25,133
And so I did hit him with
the gun a couple of times.
752
00:41:25,178 --> 00:41:28,218
I didn't hit him very hard.
I'm just not that kind of guy.
753
00:41:28,268 --> 00:41:30,968
And that is exactly
what Gary said to me.
754
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:33,620
He says,
"Bobby, this isn't you."
755
00:41:33,665 --> 00:41:35,795
You know,
and I apologized.
756
00:41:35,841 --> 00:41:37,801
I said, "I just--I need to
get something, Gary."
757
00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:39,853
I need to take something
back to these guys."
758
00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:43,684
I needed to be able
to look around the house
759
00:41:43,718 --> 00:41:46,368
for something that
might be worth some money.
760
00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:49,895
I gave the gun to Sadie,
told her, you know,
761
00:41:49,942 --> 00:41:53,342
like I'd seen done
in cowboy movies as a kid,
762
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:56,210
"If he moves, shoot him."
763
00:41:58,037 --> 00:42:01,997
Sadie had begun yelling
that Gary had got the gun.
764
00:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,351
I just immediately
ran into the kitchen
765
00:42:04,391 --> 00:42:07,351
and saw Gary trying
to turn the gun on me,
766
00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:09,534
and I just dove at him.
767
00:42:10,745 --> 00:42:12,355
I got my hands on the gun.
768
00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:16,579
As we were struggling,
then the gun went off.
769
00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:20,581
♪
770
00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,185
In that instant,
771
00:42:22,235 --> 00:42:24,365
with both of us looking
into each other's eyes,
772
00:42:24,411 --> 00:42:26,281
and I could see
the same thing in his eyes,
773
00:42:26,326 --> 00:42:27,886
that were--
that I was feeling,
774
00:42:27,936 --> 00:42:31,026
which was,
"I wonder if I've been shot."
775
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,070
I was able to take
the gun from him.
776
00:42:34,377 --> 00:42:36,897
We both calmed down.
I put the gun away.
777
00:42:36,945 --> 00:42:40,165
And Gary and I sat down
at the table again.
778
00:42:41,123 --> 00:42:44,433
We came to the solution
that he would sign over
779
00:42:44,474 --> 00:42:49,224
the pink slips to his VW bus
and that little jalopy.
780
00:42:49,262 --> 00:42:52,272
The two of them
probably weren't worth
781
00:42:52,308 --> 00:42:55,268
what I was in debt
to the bikers over.
782
00:42:55,311 --> 00:42:57,971
What I didn't know
at the time
783
00:42:58,010 --> 00:43:01,750
was that one of the women
had called the ranch.
784
00:43:01,796 --> 00:43:04,226
[phone rings]
785
00:43:04,277 --> 00:43:05,797
- The phone rang.
786
00:43:05,844 --> 00:43:08,244
There wasn't anybody else
around, so I answered it.
787
00:43:08,281 --> 00:43:11,981
And it was Mary Brunner,
and she said, "Get Charlie."
788
00:43:15,201 --> 00:43:18,641
- After Gary had given me the
title to the two little cars,
789
00:43:18,683 --> 00:43:21,253
we were on
cordial terms again.
790
00:43:21,294 --> 00:43:24,344
Call it water under the bridge
and leave it behind.
791
00:43:26,212 --> 00:43:29,912
We became aware that someone
was coming to the front door,
792
00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:32,345
and Gary went to answer it.
793
00:43:32,392 --> 00:43:36,092
And he opened the door,
and said, "Hi, Charlie."
794
00:43:36,135 --> 00:43:38,345
And Charlie stepped
into the front door
795
00:43:38,398 --> 00:43:39,788
and just slashed him
across the face,
796
00:43:39,834 --> 00:43:42,144
not a word,
without warning.
797
00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:46,540
I said, "Charlie,
why did you do that?"
798
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:51,280
And he said, exact words,
"Showing you how to be a man."
799
00:43:51,324 --> 00:43:54,284
♪
800
00:43:54,327 --> 00:43:57,767
And then Bruce turned to Gary
and says, "Where's the gun?"
801
00:43:57,809 --> 00:43:59,459
And I said, "I've got it."
802
00:43:59,506 --> 00:44:02,466
Bruce took the gun, as quick
as they came, they left,
803
00:44:02,509 --> 00:44:05,159
and Charlie said, "Tell them
to clean this mess up."
804
00:44:06,513 --> 00:44:07,693
Gary was bleeding.
805
00:44:07,732 --> 00:44:09,472
He was holding his hand
up to his cheek,
806
00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:12,996
and maybe I was just horrified
and Gary was horrified.
807
00:44:15,261 --> 00:44:18,481
I spent the next day
with Gary.
808
00:44:18,525 --> 00:44:23,655
And I didn't know what
the fuck to do at that point.
809
00:44:24,096 --> 00:44:28,006
I was getting increasingly
desperate over the situation.
810
00:44:30,929 --> 00:44:32,669
So I called the ranch.
811
00:44:32,713 --> 00:44:34,853
[phone rings]
812
00:44:34,889 --> 00:44:36,409
And got Charlie
on the phone and I said,
813
00:44:36,456 --> 00:44:39,196
"Man, you know,
you created this problem,
814
00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:41,721
"and I need you
to take it back,
815
00:44:41,766 --> 00:44:43,856
because I don't know
what to do."
816
00:44:44,377 --> 00:44:46,377
And he said something
to the effect,
817
00:44:46,422 --> 00:44:49,862
"You know what to do as well
as I do," and hung up on me.
818
00:44:54,387 --> 00:44:58,257
And maybe a half hour later,
I stabbed Gary to death.
819
00:45:09,576 --> 00:45:13,006
- He was found in the living
room directly up here,
820
00:45:13,058 --> 00:45:15,838
and he was lying on his back
with multiple stab wounds.
821
00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:17,847
He had been dead
approximately one week
822
00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:20,719
at the time
that he was found.
823
00:45:20,761 --> 00:45:23,591
After we entered the home,
we saw signs of a struggle,
824
00:45:23,633 --> 00:45:26,253
and it appeared as though
there had been a
825
00:45:26,941 --> 00:45:29,071
some degree of violence.
826
00:45:31,076 --> 00:45:33,206
I would never have
killed a man had Charlie
827
00:45:33,252 --> 00:45:36,212
not come into Gary's home,
slashed his face,
828
00:45:36,255 --> 00:45:39,945
and then left me there
with that responsibility.
829
00:45:44,089 --> 00:45:46,739
I don't remember writing
in blood on the wall.
830
00:45:46,787 --> 00:45:48,917
I don't know
that I did that.
831
00:45:50,008 --> 00:45:52,448
I had always
assumed it was me.
832
00:45:57,450 --> 00:46:02,670
- I had seen Bobby and Mary
and Susan Atkins
833
00:46:02,716 --> 00:46:04,936
kind of huddled
and whispering.
834
00:46:06,285 --> 00:46:08,235
The twinkle in his eye
was gone.
835
00:46:08,287 --> 00:46:12,767
He looked scared
and didn't look like Bobby.
836
00:46:12,813 --> 00:46:14,083
So I asked him,
"What's wrong?"
837
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:15,989
And he said, "Nothing."
838
00:46:16,034 --> 00:46:19,784
So, I said, "Okay."
And I just kept on walking.
839
00:46:21,822 --> 00:46:23,912
[coyote howling]
840
00:46:23,955 --> 00:46:26,905
[uneasy music]
841
00:46:26,958 --> 00:46:29,608
♪
842
00:46:29,656 --> 00:46:33,176
- Bobby Beausoleil,
in his stupidity,
843
00:46:33,225 --> 00:46:36,485
gets into the car of
the murder victim, Gary Hinman,
844
00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:40,152
and he drives 120 miles
to San Luis Obispo.
845
00:46:44,236 --> 00:46:49,456
- And drove off in Gary's car
with the murder weapon.
846
00:46:49,502 --> 00:46:51,632
- It was very early
in the morning.
847
00:46:51,678 --> 00:46:53,288
The car broke down.
848
00:46:53,332 --> 00:46:54,992
The engine was still smoking
849
00:46:55,029 --> 00:46:56,939
when the Highway Patrol car
passed by.
850
00:46:56,988 --> 00:46:58,728
So I jumped
into the back seat
851
00:46:58,772 --> 00:47:01,302
and pretended to be asleep.
852
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:05,130
I didn't know what I thought
that would do to help.
853
00:47:05,170 --> 00:47:06,610
- The highway patrolman
discovered,
854
00:47:06,649 --> 00:47:10,129
it is the car of the murder
victim, Gary Hinman.
855
00:47:10,175 --> 00:47:12,175
Mr. Beausoleil was arrested,
856
00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:14,960
accused
of first-degree murder.
857
00:47:15,006 --> 00:47:17,006
[camera shutters clicking]
858
00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:30,756
- After the murder,
Charlie leaves town.
859
00:47:31,326 --> 00:47:33,066
Things were getting
too crazy in L.A.
860
00:47:33,111 --> 00:47:36,331
[gentle music]
861
00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:39,765
♪
862
00:47:39,813 --> 00:47:42,953
- When I met Charlie,
I was 17 on a road trip.
863
00:47:44,557 --> 00:47:46,597
And we were on our way home,
it was probably about,
864
00:47:46,646 --> 00:47:48,516
I don't know, 3:00
in the morning or something.
865
00:47:48,561 --> 00:47:50,781
We stopped for gas.
866
00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:53,134
I went to go to the bathroom.
867
00:47:54,045 --> 00:47:55,915
There was Charlie,
868
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,400
and a couple of fellows,
I think,
869
00:47:57,439 --> 00:48:00,089
that were just hitchhiking
were with him as well.
870
00:48:04,577 --> 00:48:06,747
He said some things, like,
"Well, what's a beautiful girl
871
00:48:06,796 --> 00:48:10,056
like you out here
so late at night?"
872
00:48:10,104 --> 00:48:12,114
And in just
a short period of time,
873
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:13,190
he was able to tell me
874
00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:14,938
everything I ever
wanted to hear.
875
00:48:14,979 --> 00:48:16,549
"I bet your dad
doesn't really love you.
876
00:48:16,589 --> 00:48:19,239
I bet nobody really
takes you seriously."
877
00:48:21,855 --> 00:48:23,935
And I was like,
wow, you know?
878
00:48:23,988 --> 00:48:26,898
And I saw there was guitars
in his van,
879
00:48:26,947 --> 00:48:29,077
and I thought,
"This is neat."
880
00:48:29,341 --> 00:48:31,301
We were near Big Sur,
881
00:48:31,343 --> 00:48:34,043
and I had always
wanted to see Big Sur.
882
00:48:34,085 --> 00:48:35,905
So I don't know what happened.
883
00:48:35,956 --> 00:48:38,916
I told the fellow
that I was with,
884
00:48:38,959 --> 00:48:41,919
I said, "I'm gonna go
with these guys."
885
00:48:41,962 --> 00:48:45,272
The attraction
was just immediate.
886
00:48:45,313 --> 00:48:47,053
Yeah.
887
00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:54,238
♪
888
00:48:54,279 --> 00:48:57,499
We pulled up
to the Esalen Institute.
889
00:48:57,543 --> 00:48:59,413
He took his guitar
and he told me,
890
00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:02,238
"Stay in the van
while I go in there
891
00:49:02,287 --> 00:49:04,937
and I'll be back
in a little bit."
892
00:49:04,985 --> 00:49:08,025
So, okay, so I just waited.
893
00:49:12,993 --> 00:49:15,603
I think that he was thinking
that they were gonna be
894
00:49:15,648 --> 00:49:18,608
really blown away
by his talent,
895
00:49:18,651 --> 00:49:21,351
and, you know,
his music abilities,
896
00:49:21,393 --> 00:49:24,573
and, you know, ask him to come
back and possibly pay him.
897
00:49:26,876 --> 00:49:29,966
But, uh, they didn't.
898
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,620
He was pretty upset
when he came back.
899
00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:37,627
The fact that these people
were not impressed
900
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:40,980
with his talent
made him angry.
901
00:49:43,241 --> 00:49:45,111
Put his guitar in the van,
902
00:49:45,156 --> 00:49:48,986
and hardly said, you know,
two words, and off we went.
903
00:49:57,081 --> 00:49:59,691
When we met at
the gas station, I said,
904
00:49:59,735 --> 00:50:01,905
"If I go to Big Sur
with you,
905
00:50:01,955 --> 00:50:05,475
will you take me to
San Diego to get my things?"
906
00:50:05,524 --> 00:50:08,274
And he promised me
that he would.
907
00:50:09,441 --> 00:50:10,701
And he did.
908
00:50:18,363 --> 00:50:21,843
We spent a couple of hours
with my sister
909
00:50:21,888 --> 00:50:25,848
and Charlie,
and my sister's boyfriend,
910
00:50:25,892 --> 00:50:29,202
and I don't think
they were happy.
911
00:50:29,635 --> 00:50:32,245
You know, they were
on the outside looking in,
912
00:50:32,290 --> 00:50:34,340
and I don't think
they were real glad
913
00:50:34,379 --> 00:50:38,769
that I was going with him,
but nevertheless, I was, so.
914
00:50:41,212 --> 00:50:42,692
Basically,
I didn't take much.
915
00:50:42,735 --> 00:50:46,735
A few clothes, my dog,
and my guitar.
916
00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:58,190
When we pulled up
to the ranch,
917
00:50:58,229 --> 00:50:59,709
everything was turned over.
918
00:50:59,752 --> 00:51:03,192
Any clothes that I brought
went into a communal pile.
919
00:51:03,234 --> 00:51:05,634
My driver's license,
any money I had,
920
00:51:05,671 --> 00:51:08,201
which was probably
very, very little.
921
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,109
Everything that
we had went into,
922
00:51:10,154 --> 00:51:12,204
like a communal pot,
923
00:51:12,243 --> 00:51:14,383
and everybody
just used whatever.
924
00:51:14,419 --> 00:51:17,419
Kind of gave up
your identity, you know?
925
00:51:18,249 --> 00:51:21,729
♪
926
00:51:21,774 --> 00:51:24,654
[indistinct singing]
927
00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:30,740
♪
928
00:51:30,783 --> 00:51:35,963
- I asked Charlie, "Hey, do
you know what's up with Bobby?"
929
00:51:36,005 --> 00:51:39,915
He said, "Yeah, he got busted
in a dead man's car,
930
00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:41,746
and now he's in for murder."
931
00:51:41,794 --> 00:51:44,144
And I said, "Bobby?"
932
00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:47,408
And he kind of said it
with disdain.
933
00:51:47,452 --> 00:51:49,762
And I said,
"Well, what jail is he in?
934
00:51:49,802 --> 00:51:51,022
I'll go see him."
935
00:51:51,499 --> 00:51:53,459
And he said,
"I've got this covered.
936
00:51:53,501 --> 00:51:55,501
You stay out of it."
937
00:51:56,287 --> 00:51:58,287
♪
938
00:52:04,164 --> 00:52:07,124
[uneasy music]
939
00:52:07,167 --> 00:52:13,867
♪
940
00:52:13,913 --> 00:52:16,663
- In my world,
there is no wrong.
941
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:22,840
You think that my mind is
like your mind, but it isn't.
942
00:52:25,098 --> 00:52:28,148
This confusion belongs to you.
It's your confusion.
943
00:52:32,061 --> 00:52:36,151
Living is what scares me.
Dying is easy.
944
00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:40,854
- But there is something
else here.
945
00:52:40,896 --> 00:52:45,676
We have known what Manson did
without understanding why.
946
00:52:46,554 --> 00:52:49,644
- Charlie played a different
role for each one of us.
947
00:52:49,688 --> 00:52:52,298
- We were everything
to each other.
948
00:52:52,343 --> 00:52:54,823
- This wasn't
what I signed up for.
949
00:52:54,867 --> 00:52:56,827
- These were
America's children.
950
00:52:56,869 --> 00:53:00,529
- It was the '60s.
It was a perfect storm.
951
00:53:00,568 --> 00:53:03,218
- People have been
brainwashed to believe
952
00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:05,527
the real reason
behind these murders
953
00:53:05,573 --> 00:53:07,533
was to start a race war.
954
00:53:08,576 --> 00:53:10,536
He said,
"Will you die for me?"
955
00:53:11,971 --> 00:53:14,841
- Helter Skelter
simply means confusion.
956
00:53:14,887 --> 00:53:20,937
♪
957
00:54:08,027 --> 00:54:10,247
- Greg, move your head.
958
00:54:14,947 --> 00:54:17,247
[lion roars]
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