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[eerie music]
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- I can say, I can sit
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I got a calling to
do self portraits
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everyday for the rest
of my life until I die.
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But that's not
necessarily being honest
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because there's some
thought involved with that.
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It didn't take a
supernatural being
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or some magical thing to happen;
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it was just a decision I made,
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a logical, rational
decision I made.
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And then all this other
stuff, everything else,
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just all this
bloomed out of that.
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[eerie music]
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There might be some
desperation there,
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where you feel desperate,
like you're alone.
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Maybe for me
personally, I'm like,
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"Oh, I'm alone in the
world," or something,
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or maybe I thought
no one understood me.
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You know, whatever
type of negatives--
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Part of me, with
the self-portraits,
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wants to get as much experience
out of life as possible
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so that by the time that I die
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I will have really
lived a full life.
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I really don't like it
when people say that,
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"I was chosen," or
"Painting's my calling,
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"I can't imagine without
it," or something like that
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because it tries to make it
a mysterious type of thing.
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So, like, someone
with some depression
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or low self esteem
and beats them self up
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or someone that's a
little bit psychotic,
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maybe even have a whole
bunch of psychotic in them.
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It just creates all this baggage
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that they don't need
when they just want to--
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They just need a little bit of
encouragement and self worth.
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Sometimes I'm easily excitable
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so I can get really outrageous.
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I get on the bullhorn and
yell at people on the streets
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and just act up and stuff.
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I don't get depressed too much
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more of some mania,
but not really too bad
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where it can't be kept in check.
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Ever since I got
in that knife fight
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and went to prison, I always
knew, "Don't carry a knife."
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If you don't have a
knife in your pocket
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you can never use it, you
can never stab someone, ever,
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if you don't have a knife.
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I never stabbed
anyone after that.
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But then, I did cut--
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I was just so much of
a trouble maker then
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and doing so many
terrible things
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that I didn't really
get to stay with it--
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I always liked art, and
stuff, but it wasn't until
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I went to East Tennessee
State University
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that I really saw that I
could use it to help me
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psychologically and
emotionally and socially.
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I don't have a lot of joy.
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Doing the self portraits
I get some joy from
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because I know that no matter
whatever happens to me,
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unless I'm in a coma,
or have a severe stroke,
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or frontal lobe damage,
there's no way that I would--
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I think even if I had
frontal lobe damage
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I would still be able to draw
my self-portrait everyday.
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I think, by now, I
would not forget.
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I think it's so much a
part of my daily life.
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Like eating or something,
I might forget to eat,
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I might forget to bathe,
or something like this,
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just because I'm
wrapped all up in art.
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[traffic]
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[light music]
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When it comes to the
dark side in the arts
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and the tortured soul
and the tortured artist,
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teachers, educators, and
people will like to say that,
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"That's a myth and that you
don't really need that."
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But there is some kind
of connection there.
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I'm not going to lie, there
is some kind of a connection
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because a person that
is a tortured soul
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is a frustrated person,
a person that has
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some kind of inner
demons, or maybe
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they don't like mankind,
or maybe there's things,
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like they love animals and
they don't like people;
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the way people treat
animals, or maybe they
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have real serious problems that
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they're witness
to in these times.
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And it bothers them and
creates a conflict in them
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and then they have no
way to really express it.
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Art is the best way to
express things culturally.
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You can go to church and
witness, and give your testimony
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and say, "Oh, this
terrible thing's happened,"
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and stuff, and you have a
support network in a church
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and stuff like that,
but you don't--
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It's not your own
pulpit, like art.
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You're a congegration member
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or something, and you
get a little bit of time
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to ask for a prayer,
or something like that.
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But art is like,
you're the preacher,
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you're the pulpit, so it gives--
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I think it's a great
motivational thing,
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the dark side, I'm not
afraid of it at all.
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I'm not afraid to
face that because
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I'm inspired, by a lot of that
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and I'm inspired by
some desperation.
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Someone a long time ago said,
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"Desperation was
a great inspirer."
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Feeling desperate, and
then still continuing
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down your artistic path
is a great inspirer.
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[deep piano music]
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The self portraits, I used them
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for long time I
would tell people
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I was growing my feelings.
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I was using them
to grow my feelings
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because I kind of had some
sociopathic tendencies
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but a lot of people
wouldn't necessarily see it
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because I can pretend.
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I see how other people
that are emotional
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all the time, and I
can imitate it to--
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not a great actor, like a
professional type of actor
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but I can act like I
feelings really well.
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But I would use
the self-portraits
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to put my real
feelings in there;
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I called it my true feelings.
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I would use the
self-portraits everyday
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as a way of purging
the negative feelings
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and allowing myself to have
more positive feelings;
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dealing with stress
daily, like a therapy.
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So I think it's
really helped a lot.
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[dramatic music]
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I don't know if there was
a magic, eureka moment,
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I don't know if I
ever experienced
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a magical, eureka moment
where I would say,
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"I'm going to be a
professional, full-time artist."
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But I know the day I drew
the first self-portrait
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and the series of all
of them in my life
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I knew this was my life calling
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because I knew that
the possibilities
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were endless and infinite.
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And I can do them under
any circumstances;
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if I have a headache,
I do a headache one.
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I have insomnia or something,
I can do an insomnia one,
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if I'm totally exhausted
I'll draw till I fall asleep.
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No matter what the
circumstances are
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I can do a self-portrait.
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It's really ingrained in
my central nervous system.
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January 6, 1999, I'd been
doing a self-portrait
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everyday since March 30 of '95
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and had never missed a day.
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After I did this one, I realized
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there's no way I
will ever miss a day.
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I didn't remember
doing it, I had gotten
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into that argument with
that girl in the other book
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where we were breaking
up or something.
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Well I got really drunk
on some cheap liquor
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early times and it was a
snowstorm, like a blizzard.
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I just remember getting lost
and falling down in the snow
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and I kept finding my way
back to the liquor store.
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Then I ended up at
this girl's house
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and she let me in and then
I spent the night there,
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or whatever, and she took
me back the next day.
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And I felt so hungover
and just awful
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and I thought, "Oh
man," on the ride back,
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I was like, "I did not even
do my self-portrait yesterday.
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"Oh my god, I missed a
day, I can't believe it."
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Then when I came into the office
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I opened up the door
and my book was laid out
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just like this, and that
picture was on the page.
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And I was like, "Oh
my gosh," and she
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was there with me and she
looked at it and said,
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"You sounded exactly
like that on the phone.
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"You sounded exactly like that."
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And that's when I
knew, because it
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was like a drunken blackout,
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and I still did
the self-portrait.
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Then I knew, unless
I'm in a coma,
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I would never have to
worry about missing a day.
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[dramatic music]
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Oh, I think I was
in the process here
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of starting to break
up with this girl.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I was crying.
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This is probably one of
three pictures, total,
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out of 9,000 where I drew
it while I was crying.
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There's another one
I did where my aunt,
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my great-aunt passed away,
and I was crying a little bit.
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I don't really cry too
terribly much, or anything.
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[dramatic music]
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Whoa, that break up must
have been really troubling.
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Yeah, here she goes.
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"Doing better."
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She was a really short girl.
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[dramatic music]
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I'm not so concerned
with composition
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and figure ground and all
these types of things.
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I don't think of drawing;
when I do the self-portraits
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I don't think of them as--
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I think of them as all
as one piece together.
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I don't think of each day as an
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individual work of
art, really at all.
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Even though I might
like one and share it
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with some people, show
some people or something.
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If it's crappy I
don't care because
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it's the act that's
more important to me
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than the final product.
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I had this real feeling that
filled my whole entire being
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that no one way of
interpreting myself
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should set the standard for
the way I see the world.
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Because, you know, I was
taking art history classes
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and things, and all
of these artists
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like Van Gogh would
see the world one way;
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Cezanne would see the
world another way.
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And Paul McCartney,
a performance artist,
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sees the world another way.
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Everybody from hundreds of years
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has being seeing the world
in their own unique way.
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And I thought, the
truth to me was that
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everyone is different,
and then I thought,
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"They really encourage
you in school
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"to develop your
own style, your own
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"unique way of
seeing the world."
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And they give you
these assignments
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where you try out all
these different types
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of ways of doing
different media.
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So that way you can get,
like, a bigger palette
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to interpret your expression.
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But I don't know, something
in my physical body
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was just like, "Wow."
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Today is not the
same as yesterday
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and if I'm happy one
day, and then I'm sad
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the next day, why do I
have to limit myself,
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limit my media palette to
this one form of expression?
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But I knew that if I did this
everyday it would come out.
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I knew that subconsciously,
or even consciously,
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I would be able to have
a means of expression
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that was really super-rich.
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[dramatic music]
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[island music]
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Very rarely will I just
be an abstract thing.
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Usually I try to at least
represent myself somewhat.
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Here's me as an island;
I made myself an island.
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We'll skip that one. [chuckles]
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Let's see.
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I don't know, these
are probably...
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I don't know why I'm crawling.
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Something happened.
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Oh, uh, I was mad
about a sandwich.
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That's strange.
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Going back to this one
where I was an island,
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where I said I hardly
ever draw myself,
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like abstract, where
there's no representation,
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this writing it looks like
some kind of nonsense,
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"Mudaks and vudaks
and woodaduku,
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"mujudak mujadak daku maku."
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It sounds like the
ramblings of something
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of a weird person,
but really what it is,
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is I had read a
book by Nietzsche
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that said, "I had a
pain and call it "dog"."
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And one of the
first steps toward
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controlling pain is to name it.
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So what I did, was--
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well because you'll
probably see later on
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in some of the other books,
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like some stomach aches
and stuff like this.
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I was plagued all
in my youth with
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these terrible,
terrible stomach aches.
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Well, after I read
that I named it "Daku"
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and so this like some weird type
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of trying to make a
little nursery rhyme
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or something out of it.
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But years later once
I started performing
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I ended up making an album about
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the evolution of my
interpretation of
pain over the years.
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And then the album
is called "Daku".
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Daku is the negative side
and maku's the positive side
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that I just have in there.
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[dramatic music]
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A couple thousand
of them are just
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a daily purging of
anxiety and stress.
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Like a mental
health maintenance.
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Sometimes I will be
happy with myself
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and do something kind
of like that and, like,
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I say, "Oh, it's okay to
love yourself," or something
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[deep piano music]
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This one, I think I
was a little bit blue,
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and little bit depressed.
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I had noticed, over
the years, that
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when I do black and white
drawing it's depression
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but I was thinking
of all these colors,
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like the color of
life or something.
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But it was just a
thought, like I didn't
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have a color in my life.
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So I forced myself to
put the color in my life.
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It kind of looks stressful now.
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[train horn]
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Yellow and green to
me have always been--
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I see other people,
other artists' artworks
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and they use a lot
of yellow and green.
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To me it's a sign
of mental illness
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because yellow,
they want some kind
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of spirituality and
the green, they want
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some kind of calming thing.
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But when you put--
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They're trying to
express themselves
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and do something,
but they're having
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some kind of problems and so
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a lot of times
yellow's spiritual
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and then they went to calm,
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but when you put the
yellow and green together
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it's really electrifying
and it shows their mania
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and their not
really aware of it.
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I've got this--
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probably my heart's
cut out, or something.
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That girl cheated on me so I
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did a yellow and
green one on purpose.
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I must have been
thinking I was having
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some type of little
bit of mental problem.
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[intense music]
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I had a spontaneous
pneumothorax;
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my right lung just popped.
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[intense music]
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That's my painting
from the hospital
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and I did this one in
the emergency room.
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Here's me in the hospital,
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and you can't really
see it, but they
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had a monitor or something,
that's an IV bag, I guess.
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They had a chest
tube and everything.
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It was pretty crazy, but
it's happened before.
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Oh yeah, here's the
chest tube right there
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and I made myself
kind of surreal,
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like part of the equipment.
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I don't know what
kind of medicine
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they had me on at that time.
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And there's me
looking in the mirror.
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I finally got up and was able
to walk around a little bit
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and then look in the mirror.
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And then there's the
chest tube going in there.
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It was real painful.
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There's the scab, the
scar, not the scab.
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I was drawing the
open wound that I had.
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They don't seal it
off whenever you
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have an open chest wound.
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It has to heal from
the inside out,
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they can't just stitch it up.
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That's what it looked
like in the mirror.
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Then I got some kind
of chest infection.
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Here's me as some kind
of crazy little voodoo
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trying to make that chest
would, chest pain thing
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into some kind of,
like, a talisman,
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or some kind of magical thing.
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This is after Picasso's
"Women of Avignon"
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and my open wound is an
eye and a mouth and vagina,
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for the ego, the
superego and the id.
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I just put myself in the
same poses as the women
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from that very famous painting.
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And then the scar almost
healed up completely
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and I'm sitting
in this building,
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one floor down I lived
in a different apartment.
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Some guy gave me some
religious picture;
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I don't have it anymore.
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Oh, then I started
riding my bike.
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I got a bike, that's the day I
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got my brand new bike helmet.
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And the doctors said,
"What can't you do?"
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on the follow-up
for my pneumothorax.
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And I was like,
"What do you mean,
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"what can't I do? I
can do everything.
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"I've got a bike
and everything."
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And they were like, "Really?"
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They were expecting
me to not be able
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to go up and down
stairs and stuff,
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but it's happened so many times
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I've had a
pneumothorax, if I get
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too stressed out one of
my lungs will just pop.
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I'm real used to it.
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I get a pain in my chest
when he's not in his nest.
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I can't walk when he's hungry.
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00:28:07,633 --> 00:28:09,533
I can't sleep when he's lonely.
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I've often tried
to talk to the Daku
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but he doesn't listen
very well, either.
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He's unruly and I
think Daku is deaf.
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00:28:16,233 --> 00:28:19,500
If I stabbed him I'd
be certain of relief.
383
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:22,066
Daku hates to be petted
so I poke at him.
384
00:28:22,066 --> 00:28:23,933
He's outgrowing his tank.
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00:28:23,933 --> 00:28:27,400
Daku can also eat in
two different places
at the same time.
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He's right here just
begging me to stab him,
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gut him, gut
myself, pull him out
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00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:34,766
and stomp of the Daku.
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Daku is no friend,
Daku is killing me!
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[dramatic music]
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One time when I was, 19,
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I had major depression
and I stayed in a room,
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I was living with my
girlfriend at the time
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and I stayed in
a room for, like,
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six months in a straight,
hardly ever left
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the room but to
use the bathroom.
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I've had times where I've had
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some types of
delusions of grandeur.
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[dramatic music]
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That's a weird one.
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00:30:23,566 --> 00:30:28,466
Me, like a little kid,
holding a teddy bear.
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00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:34,300
My childhood, I would
say, is probably colorful.
403
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:41,266
I had a single mother
for a long time,
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I stayed with my grandparents
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00:30:42,733 --> 00:30:46,333
quite a bit during summers.
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00:30:47,366 --> 00:30:52,133
I think drew circles
prematurely, like age one.
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00:30:52,133 --> 00:30:54,666
Then it wasn't but
a week or two later
408
00:30:54,666 --> 00:30:56,566
I started putting eyes in them.
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00:30:56,566 --> 00:31:01,566
[dramatic music]
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00:31:11,366 --> 00:31:14,566
When I was 1 1/2 I
was potty trained
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00:31:14,566 --> 00:31:17,133
and I went straight
to school after that.
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00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:21,366
And was reading when
I was two years old
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00:31:21,366 --> 00:31:24,233
and was in the gifted
and talented programs
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00:31:24,233 --> 00:31:26,800
all through school.
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00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:29,100
I wasn't really a
prodigy or anything
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00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,766
because I never
got to nurture it
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00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:34,366
but then as I got
a little bit older
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00:31:34,366 --> 00:31:37,133
I started not being interested
419
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:41,166
in school anymore, it
was kind of boring.
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00:31:41,166 --> 00:31:43,100
I felt like they
were holding me back.
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00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,500
I was also a latch key kid, so
was I home alone a whole lot.
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00:31:47,666 --> 00:31:52,666
I had wear this awful
red yarn with a key on it
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00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:54,966
and it would rub me all day
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00:31:54,966 --> 00:31:56,866
because if I lost
my key or something
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00:31:56,866 --> 00:31:59,733
I would have no way
to get into the house.
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00:31:59,733 --> 00:32:02,100
But my mother showed
me how to break-in
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00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:06,300
to the house with a knife
through the kitchen window.
428
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,433
When I was 10, I started
getting in trouble with the law.
429
00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:18,133
If my mother wasn't coming
home after work, I--
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00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:21,800
All the other kids had
to go in at dinner-time,
431
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,400
I could stay outside forever.
432
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,300
But it was dark; I was
more scared of the house,
433
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:30,800
than I was the
dark so I started--
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00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,500
By the time I was
11 or 12, I started
435
00:32:33,566 --> 00:32:37,433
breaking into people's
houses after they died
436
00:32:37,433 --> 00:32:39,966
and would go through their stuff
437
00:32:39,966 --> 00:32:44,266
and hang out in these
other people's houses.
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00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,200
[chuckles] It's a strange thing.
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00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:52,166
It just my mind
would wander, like,
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00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:55,633
one lady died across the street.
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00:32:55,633 --> 00:32:58,000
She was elderly and I
broke into her house
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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,233
and I stayed in there
for a couple weeks.
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00:33:02,033 --> 00:33:04,900
I wasn't every missing;
I went to school,
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00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:06,566
come home before my mom got home
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00:33:06,566 --> 00:33:08,466
and stuff like
that, but if I found
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00:33:08,466 --> 00:33:12,566
some swords, or something
from her travels,
447
00:33:12,633 --> 00:33:16,333
I would play with them and
give them to the other kids.
448
00:33:17,033 --> 00:33:19,500
I'd steal her TV and
stuff. [chuckles]
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Just to hang out in the
people's houses after they died.
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[dramatic music]
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00:33:32,466 --> 00:33:34,666
I would, rather
than play outside
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or in some dead person's house
453
00:33:36,266 --> 00:33:38,466
than in my own house
because for some reason,
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00:33:38,466 --> 00:33:41,433
I had this irrational
fear, paranoia
455
00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:44,133
of the bad people.
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00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:47,466
I had really no concept
of what they were.
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00:33:47,466 --> 00:33:49,833
I just had this vague idea that
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00:33:49,833 --> 00:33:53,233
the bad people were killers.
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00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:56,733
Anyone whoever got
killed was killed
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00:33:56,733 --> 00:34:00,433
by these mysterious bad people.
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00:34:02,033 --> 00:34:04,366
One lady down the street, Olga,
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00:34:04,366 --> 00:34:06,066
she got murdered and they played
463
00:34:06,066 --> 00:34:11,066
the 9-1-1 tape on
TV and her husband
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00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:13,133
had escaped, or something.
465
00:34:13,133 --> 00:34:14,533
He got furloughed or something
466
00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:17,366
from a mental hospital
and stabbed her all up
467
00:34:17,366 --> 00:34:19,766
and every time he stabbed her,
468
00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:22,666
he was screaming her name, Olga.
469
00:34:22,666 --> 00:34:27,300
He was going, "Ol-ga,
Ol-ga, Ol-ga, Ol-ga,"
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00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:31,166
like that and then she
was screaming to death,
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00:34:31,166 --> 00:34:33,300
she screamed until she died.
472
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:35,433
And that really
haunted me; that type
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00:34:35,433 --> 00:34:37,300
of thing really scared me.
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00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:41,066
So I was just always
afraid of these bad people.
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00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:43,500
I just always thought they
were somewhere around.
476
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:48,500
I had this whole ritual before
I went to sleep at night.
477
00:34:48,566 --> 00:34:51,600
I would pretend like
I was dead already
478
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,600
so that if the bad people
found me and tried to kill me
479
00:34:56,866 --> 00:34:59,066
they would see I
was already dead.
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00:34:59,066 --> 00:35:01,633
And I would have
this elaborate set-up
481
00:35:01,633 --> 00:35:03,700
like a funeral or
something, and I would sleep
482
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,033
next to the open window
in the summertime.
483
00:35:06,033 --> 00:35:11,033
[eerie music]
484
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,633
I was picked on a
lot by the older kids
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00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,166
because they could
stay out longer,
486
00:35:15,166 --> 00:35:17,500
so if some of these
older high school kids,
487
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:19,900
they would try to beat me up.
488
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:23,100
Then I would take it out on--
489
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:27,633
I would just pass the
beating down the line.
490
00:35:27,633 --> 00:35:29,900
I would only have one
friend at at time;
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00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,400
they would be my best
friend, inseparable,
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00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,433
and then I would
eventually beat them up
493
00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:37,233
and then look for a new friend
494
00:35:37,233 --> 00:35:40,633
and be their friend for
awhile and beat them up.
495
00:35:40,633 --> 00:35:44,533
Then after a while nobody
was allowed to play with me
496
00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:49,533
probably by the time I
was about 13, I'd say.
497
00:35:54,733 --> 00:35:57,533
I used art a lot of
times, at least in
498
00:35:57,533 --> 00:35:59,300
the beginning, a whole lot.
499
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:02,100
Maybe not the self-portraits,
but with the performances,
500
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,300
to purge myself of the trauma.
501
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:10,300
Traumatic events,
I would relay them,
502
00:36:11,833 --> 00:36:15,800
like an exorcism
or something, just
503
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,900
let it all out, all of
these terrible things.
504
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,500
But my mother, she has no idea,
505
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,166
all these crazy
things that went on.
506
00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:27,266
She might remember
a few incidents,
507
00:36:27,266 --> 00:36:29,266
or something with
me with the police,
508
00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:33,233
but she had no idea
the types of things
509
00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:38,233
I was a witness to,
or subjected to.
510
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,933
I don't know because
when you're a boy
511
00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:44,766
you're supposed to suck it up.
512
00:36:44,766 --> 00:36:47,533
You don't really
tell your mother
513
00:36:47,533 --> 00:36:50,300
that Officer [beep],
the one you think
514
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:52,233
is supposed to be helping people
515
00:36:52,233 --> 00:36:55,333
is molesting all
the troubled kids.
516
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:57,333
You don't uh--
517
00:36:57,333 --> 00:36:58,833
You know, you got a single mom
518
00:36:58,833 --> 00:37:02,000
and you're a boy, you just
got to suck it up, really.
519
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000
[dramatic music]
520
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:49,766
I think this is around the time
521
00:37:49,766 --> 00:37:51,300
that I was graduating.
522
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,033
I graduate from ETSU
in the summer of '98,
523
00:37:55,033 --> 00:37:56,433
so there'll probably be some
524
00:37:56,433 --> 00:38:00,500
of the pictures in
there about that.
525
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,233
The dorm was like a prison
526
00:38:09,233 --> 00:38:11,500
with the cinder block walls.
527
00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,833
I just had these scribbles
on this old palette
528
00:38:15,833 --> 00:38:20,833
and it's like some
tensions are flying off,
529
00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:24,933
it's a self-constructed
wall it looks like
530
00:38:24,933 --> 00:38:28,000
I'm trying to build in my brain.
531
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,533
I really felt comfortable
in the college
532
00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:34,400
and the dormitory; I stayed
in the dormitory five years,
533
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,233
every semester,
even summer school
534
00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:40,000
because it was just convenient,
535
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,100
and stuff, and I didn't mind it.
536
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:44,066
I been in prison one
time, a long time ago,
537
00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:48,266
and I got used to it.
538
00:38:48,933 --> 00:38:52,466
There's some
anxiety; that's nuts.
539
00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:58,033
I was under a whole lot of
stress going to college.
540
00:38:58,033 --> 00:39:01,400
It was really hard for
me to do assignments.
541
00:39:01,633 --> 00:39:03,900
The called the
ACLU on me one time
542
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,400
because I sewed
my mouth shut for
543
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,166
this photography student.
544
00:39:09,433 --> 00:39:10,933
They had the lawyers
come, and they
545
00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:13,433
had this big meeting,
and everything.
546
00:39:13,433 --> 00:39:16,066
They had more than
one meeting on me.
547
00:39:16,066 --> 00:39:17,900
But was this one
was the big one.
548
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,766
And then I had to jump through
549
00:39:20,766 --> 00:39:23,733
a lot of hoops in
order to graduate.
550
00:39:23,733 --> 00:39:27,300
Even if my faculty,
my teachers, advisors
551
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:32,300
and stuff would say, "Oh, we
recommend," at the evaluation,
552
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,400
" you skip two or three
years worth of stuff
553
00:39:37,466 --> 00:39:39,966
"and just take
5,000 level advanced
554
00:39:39,966 --> 00:39:43,866
"classes, electives
and stuff like that."
555
00:39:43,866 --> 00:39:47,200
The head chairman
said, "No, if he wants
556
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,366
"to graduate he has to
jump through every hoop,
557
00:39:50,366 --> 00:39:53,266
"he has to do everything
just like everybody else
558
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:56,266
"and he does not get
special treatment."
559
00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,266
That guy really held
me back, big time.
560
00:40:00,266 --> 00:40:03,700
And I didn't like
to do assignments.
561
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,633
They would have me
make a painting;
562
00:40:07,533 --> 00:40:10,333
like in the syllabus it would
say, I think one of the said,
563
00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:12,800
"Make a drawing that
weighed five pounds,"
564
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,400
and I told the teacher--
565
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,000
I mean, that stuff
really stressed me out,
566
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,666
kept me up at night, all
night, and I would think,
567
00:40:17,666 --> 00:40:20,233
"How am I going to approach this
568
00:40:20,233 --> 00:40:23,200
"and not fly off the
handle and get upset?"
569
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,766
But I would say, "If
I make any drawing
570
00:40:26,766 --> 00:40:30,366
"that weighs five pounds,
it's automatically garbage."
571
00:40:30,366 --> 00:40:32,966
It doesn't have
anything to do with me.
572
00:40:32,966 --> 00:40:35,100
I have my life purpose,
I'm going to draw myself
573
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,866
everyday for the
rest of my life.
574
00:40:36,866 --> 00:40:39,566
If I make a drawing
that weighs five pounds,
575
00:40:39,566 --> 00:40:43,366
I don't want it;
that's silliness.
576
00:40:43,366 --> 00:40:45,833
And they would say,
"You have to do this,
577
00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:47,333
"you have to do that."
578
00:40:47,333 --> 00:40:50,733
I would never do it;
I would never do it.
579
00:40:50,733 --> 00:40:55,666
[dramatic music]
580
00:41:10,033 --> 00:41:13,433
That's the last day of classes.
581
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:18,366
Last class, last exam,
last hoop, last jump.
582
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:23,533
I look kind of
blue, kind of down,
583
00:41:23,533 --> 00:41:27,833
but I probably was really
relieved to get out of there.
584
00:41:29,033 --> 00:41:33,400
This is funny; here's me in
a diaper with a ski mask on.
585
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,133
I don't know why,
but at the time,
586
00:41:35,133 --> 00:41:37,366
still to me it speaks
to me something about
587
00:41:37,366 --> 00:41:40,633
being a baby and in
a violent ski mask.
588
00:41:40,633 --> 00:41:43,800
And I made this
nail-studded paddle
589
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,800
for an Intro to Sculpture class
590
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,666
and on one side of the paddle,
591
00:41:49,666 --> 00:41:51,900
I don't know if you
can really tell,
592
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:55,833
I painted welts, and
flesh-colored welts
593
00:41:55,833 --> 00:41:57,300
so it looked, like,
you saw that nails
594
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:58,766
and it was like a
before and after.
595
00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:01,666
But the teacher did not want
me to come back into class
596
00:42:01,666 --> 00:42:03,666
because she thought I was
going to spank myself with it.
597
00:42:03,666 --> 00:42:05,200
But my girlfriend
at the time took
598
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,900
all of these Polaroids of me
599
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:09,466
with the ski mask and the diaper
600
00:42:09,466 --> 00:42:11,666
and I would just
scribble red pen on it
601
00:42:11,666 --> 00:42:13,100
and make it look like some kind
602
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,133
of spank yourself or something.
603
00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:17,000
And I would leave these--
604
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,933
I still have quite
a few of them left,
605
00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:22,366
like probably 20 or so,
and I would leave them
606
00:42:22,366 --> 00:42:26,100
in people's places,
like in their car,
607
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,600
or different stuff and it was
608
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,333
kind of like a
funny thing to do.
609
00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:33,133
People would find it and
then they'd feel like--
610
00:42:33,133 --> 00:42:36,233
[laughs] They'd
freak out. [laughs]
611
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,400
One time I left one under--
612
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,100
I was house-sitting and they had
613
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,466
a big tub of sour cream
in the refrigerator
614
00:42:42,466 --> 00:42:44,433
and I left a Polaroid
of me in the ski mask
615
00:42:44,433 --> 00:42:46,266
and the diaper under it.
616
00:42:46,266 --> 00:42:47,633
Well, apparently that sour cream
617
00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:49,633
had gone totally sour
and they never moved it
618
00:42:49,633 --> 00:42:51,200
until they moved out
of the apartment.
619
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,733
So a year later of something,
when they moved out,
620
00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:55,766
they were cleaning
out the refrigerator
621
00:42:55,766 --> 00:42:57,600
and they found it
and they thought,
622
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,466
"Oh my gosh! We've
been violated.
623
00:42:59,466 --> 00:43:01,833
"Some psychopath
freak has come in here
624
00:43:01,833 --> 00:43:04,633
"and took pictures of the
ski mask and a diaper."
625
00:43:04,633 --> 00:43:08,000
But then they saw the tattoos
and they realized it was me.
626
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,033
[laughs] And I just think
that's funny, sometimes.
627
00:43:12,033 --> 00:43:14,433
I still do it, but, you
never know what happens
628
00:43:14,433 --> 00:43:17,500
if the people meant to
find them will find them.
629
00:43:19,866 --> 00:43:24,333
That's just a regular;
probably some anxiety.
630
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,900
Then, my best
friend, Don Morgan,
631
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,866
shot himself in the head.
632
00:43:31,866 --> 00:43:34,933
Don, he had some
mental problems.
633
00:43:34,933 --> 00:43:39,766
He had gone to some kind
of inpatient treatment
634
00:43:39,766 --> 00:43:41,966
for a couple of days
and his girlfriend
635
00:43:41,966 --> 00:43:45,733
had me go over and try to
clean up the bloodstain
636
00:43:45,733 --> 00:43:48,466
before his parents
came from Chattanooga.
637
00:43:48,466 --> 00:43:50,700
And the more I was scrubbing it,
638
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:52,800
the bigger the
puddle kept getting
639
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,266
until, finally, I just left it.
640
00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:57,400
I don't know how you
clean up that stuff.
641
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,900
He was in the ICU
and I was wanting
642
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:02,266
to trade places
with him and stuff.
643
00:44:02,266 --> 00:44:04,766
And then I had to
call his family
644
00:44:04,766 --> 00:44:08,300
and I was like a
robot, or something.
645
00:44:09,033 --> 00:44:13,766
Then I had to get to
the free mental health
646
00:44:13,766 --> 00:44:15,633
and tell them, "Oh my
gosh, my best friend
647
00:44:15,633 --> 00:44:18,933
"shot himself in the head."
648
00:44:19,533 --> 00:44:22,333
Oh, here's me crying
again; it looks more
649
00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:24,200
like I was trying to
force myself to cry.
650
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,566
I don't think I was
really crying too much.
651
00:44:26,566 --> 00:44:29,566
Actually, that looks
like a real teardrop.
652
00:44:29,566 --> 00:44:32,400
This is probably a water color,
653
00:44:32,833 --> 00:44:35,000
chalk, that is some tears
on there, so I guess,
654
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,200
yeah I was probably
really crying.
655
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,033
But it's not too
many times I do that.
656
00:44:40,033 --> 00:44:45,033
[dramatic music]
657
00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:21,933
[knocking]
658
00:45:25,866 --> 00:45:30,866
Hey, come in; kitchen.
659
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:34,500
To the left is the closet.
660
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:36,333
People tell me that I'm like
661
00:45:36,333 --> 00:45:39,900
some frightening and some scary.
662
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:43,200
Well, now, because of
the drug things online
663
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,900
people say I'm an
attention whore
664
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:50,900
or I'm a liar, like I
make these things up
665
00:45:51,033 --> 00:45:54,866
to get attention, or you know,
666
00:45:54,866 --> 00:45:57,033
because I want publicity.
667
00:45:57,033 --> 00:46:00,600
Here's the bathroom
if you need to use it.
668
00:46:00,666 --> 00:46:03,000
- And this is the cool
shot, right there.
669
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,000
I do a lot of painting
in the bathtub to relax.
670
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,900
So those water color crayons
in the corner are for drawing.
671
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:12,900
- [Voiceover] Nice, cool, okay.
672
00:46:13,266 --> 00:46:18,166
They say I'm doing some
gimmicks to make money
673
00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:22,433
but I'm like, "Oh my gosh,
they're in some fantasy land."
674
00:46:22,433 --> 00:46:24,833
Because if I had some
money, I would not
675
00:46:24,833 --> 00:46:27,666
be living in this type of place.
676
00:46:27,666 --> 00:46:31,533
I would not be
living in squalor.
677
00:46:32,633 --> 00:46:35,300
That's how a lot
of people see me.
678
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,800
Okay, then here,
are my releases,
679
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,666
basically my merchandise,
680
00:46:40,666 --> 00:46:44,300
like old stock, that's
my inventory stock.
681
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:47,100
And these are the ones
that haven't released yet,
682
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:50,900
that are still being developed,
but they're still products.
683
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:55,900
I was having a really
strange experience
684
00:46:56,033 --> 00:46:58,100
where I was waking
up with seizures
685
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:01,400
and I was having a
fit and the world
686
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,900
would be too bright,
my fists would
687
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:06,666
be all clenched up and
I'd be shaking, like this.
688
00:47:06,666 --> 00:47:08,733
And I would have
this feeling that I
689
00:47:08,733 --> 00:47:11,933
was being born, physically,
for the first time ever.
690
00:47:11,933 --> 00:47:16,933
And then these are
documents of projects past.
691
00:47:18,266 --> 00:47:23,266
No, not these two, but these
boxes, and these things here.
692
00:47:23,333 --> 00:47:25,333
And after the first
couple mornings waking up
693
00:47:25,333 --> 00:47:27,833
like this, with the
seizure fit and everything,
694
00:47:27,833 --> 00:47:31,300
and being born for the first
time, it was really scary.
695
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,733
And then the third
day, the third morning,
696
00:47:34,733 --> 00:47:37,100
I wake up, I'm
twisted around with
697
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,366
the blanket all
wrapped up around me
698
00:47:39,366 --> 00:47:42,000
and I'm thinking,
"I'm a breach birth,"
699
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,466
like the umbilical
cord or something's
700
00:47:43,466 --> 00:47:45,400
wrapped up around my
neck, and I'm choking
701
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,700
and I'm dying, I'm being born,
and the world's too bright
702
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:49,933
and I'm shaking, and
then I said to Nicole,
703
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:52,833
"Oh my gosh, what
if I'm a C-Section?"
704
00:47:52,833 --> 00:47:57,833
This is art supplies and media.
705
00:47:58,133 --> 00:48:00,066
And then these are
the photographs
706
00:48:00,066 --> 00:48:02,666
that I find in the
trash constantly.
707
00:48:02,666 --> 00:48:04,933
Then, the next
morning after that,
708
00:48:04,933 --> 00:48:07,166
after having a wonderful,
peaceful sleep,
709
00:48:07,166 --> 00:48:08,766
I wake up, I'm having a seizure,
710
00:48:08,766 --> 00:48:09,866
I'm thinking I'm
being born again
711
00:48:09,866 --> 00:48:12,400
for the first time, physically.
712
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,933
I called it a
near-birth experience.
713
00:48:14,933 --> 00:48:17,600
And there's walkie talkies
just going off over my head,
714
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,433
like, "Kssh, calling 124, kssh,"
715
00:48:19,433 --> 00:48:20,766
and all this stuff--
716
00:48:20,766 --> 00:48:22,466
And then this little
closet is a clothes closet.
717
00:48:22,466 --> 00:48:25,033
And I can barely walk,
I'm practically crawling
718
00:48:25,033 --> 00:48:27,000
and using the walls
with my shoulder
719
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,533
to get to the front door and
I look through the peephole
720
00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:33,400
and there's cops
here, and cops here,
721
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,833
and my neighbor across
the hall door's wide open
722
00:48:35,833 --> 00:48:37,600
and there's a dead lady laying
723
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,500
in the middle of
the kitchen floor.
724
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:43,600
And so I went from a
near-birth experience
725
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,833
to a instant
tunnel-vision of death.
726
00:48:46,833 --> 00:48:51,166
These are DVDs,
art films, art DVDs
727
00:48:51,166 --> 00:48:53,200
that I used to really love but I
728
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,133
don't have time
to watch anymore.
729
00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:57,166
That's the only time I've
every really contemplated
730
00:48:57,166 --> 00:48:59,400
moving out of here, I thought,
"It's getting too close."
731
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,833
Then I opened up
the door and looked
732
00:49:01,833 --> 00:49:03,966
and they picked
her up in a sheet
733
00:49:03,966 --> 00:49:06,233
like she was on the
streets of Syria
734
00:49:06,233 --> 00:49:08,500
and they just slung
her onto to the gurney
735
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:10,600
right in front of my door.
736
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,933
Then the next morning I woke up
737
00:49:12,933 --> 00:49:15,066
and I didn't have the seizure,
738
00:49:15,066 --> 00:49:17,233
pushed the button for
the elevator door,
739
00:49:17,233 --> 00:49:19,700
door opens up and there's
a dead body on there
740
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:20,866
with the cops, and
the cop's like,
741
00:49:20,866 --> 00:49:22,966
"You can't come
on, on this one."
742
00:49:22,966 --> 00:49:25,066
And I was like, "Oh my
god, it's closing in."
743
00:49:25,066 --> 00:49:26,666
And these people next door to me
744
00:49:26,666 --> 00:49:30,400
used to party all the time
and they hadn't been partying
745
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,633
and I was like, "Oh my
god, if this guy's dead
746
00:49:32,633 --> 00:49:37,433
"I'm outta here," because it's
just coming too close to me.
747
00:49:37,433 --> 00:49:40,900
The last closet is
the potluck closet.
748
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:45,900
And it's got tools,
bicycle pump, all my books.
749
00:49:47,833 --> 00:49:49,666
I don't have a
whole lot of books.
750
00:49:49,666 --> 00:49:51,300
Even though I don't
socialize and interact
751
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,100
with these people, it was just
getting to be too much death,
752
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:57,533
and with this near-birth
experience, seizure craziness,
753
00:49:57,533 --> 00:49:59,866
that's the only time I've
ever thought about leaving.
754
00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,133
I love this place so much,
755
00:50:01,133 --> 00:50:03,100
no matter what
happens, I love it.
756
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:08,100
[dramatic music]
757
00:50:20,866 --> 00:50:22,933
When I first moved
into this building
758
00:50:22,933 --> 00:50:26,666
in 2000, or something,
my original goal
759
00:50:26,666 --> 00:50:29,500
was to make a
documentary about all
760
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:31,833
of the interesting
people that live
761
00:50:31,833 --> 00:50:36,100
in this building, from
veterans, to elderly people,
762
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,200
just all different
types of people.
763
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,833
And this building
is really well known
764
00:50:39,833 --> 00:50:43,000
for having a whole lot of
interesting characters.
765
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
So I was going to
do a documentary
766
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
but then I never
felt comfortable.
767
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,700
Most people don't even
leave their apartment
768
00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:52,900
and they're all on
drugs, some of them
769
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:56,033
are so messed up,
on psyche meds,
770
00:50:56,033 --> 00:50:59,366
that the case
manager once told me
771
00:50:59,366 --> 00:51:03,433
that if she could get
them out of their chair,
772
00:51:03,433 --> 00:51:07,200
recliner, lounge chair,
three times a day,
773
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,966
that was a good day for them.
774
00:51:08,966 --> 00:51:13,966
And it was really boring,
I never did a documentary.
775
00:51:15,033 --> 00:51:18,700
I started a new sketchbook
and this is what I wrote:
776
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:23,233
Theme: pill, medicine
and drug experiment
777
00:51:23,233 --> 00:51:25,933
Every single person in
my apartment building
778
00:51:25,933 --> 00:51:30,933
takes pills and or drugs;
I live in a big building.
779
00:51:31,233 --> 00:51:34,100
They say someone
can get every kind
780
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,133
of pill there is
in my apartment.
781
00:51:37,133 --> 00:51:40,900
The experiment is to
take every single kind
782
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:43,100
and draw myself
under the influence
783
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:47,200
of every drug and every
pill and note the changes.
784
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,600
That was my big
delusion of grandeur,
785
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,433
I could take all these pills.
786
00:51:52,433 --> 00:51:54,200
And the first day I got a hold
787
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,500
of something called Butalbitals,
788
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,466
they were pain pills;
I took four of them.
789
00:52:01,833 --> 00:52:04,700
Then the next day I took Valium.
790
00:52:11,133 --> 00:52:12,800
Then I took a break
from the pills
791
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,833
and I drank all
these liquor drinks.
792
00:52:14,833 --> 00:52:16,700
I was sitting at the
bar drawing myself
793
00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:17,866
it was looking pretty good but
794
00:52:17,866 --> 00:52:20,200
then it got to where
I had get someone
795
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,366
to make a map of
how I get back home.
796
00:52:22,366 --> 00:52:24,466
I was just scribbling and stuff,
797
00:52:24,466 --> 00:52:27,433
I was all messed up on liquor.
798
00:52:27,966 --> 00:52:30,633
This one I took some Percocets.
799
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:39,666
This is Lortabs, it made
my nose really itchy.
800
00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:47,200
Didn't do too much else to
me, just made my nose itch.
801
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,733
And this one is huffing
Nitrous Oxide, laughing gas.
802
00:52:56,766 --> 00:52:59,866
And then this one is Xanax;
803
00:52:59,866 --> 00:53:02,233
this one was my favorite of all.
804
00:53:02,233 --> 00:53:06,300
It made me feel most
earthy and peaceful.
805
00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:12,533
Then this one, someone came--
806
00:53:12,533 --> 00:53:15,600
All these pills were things
people just gave to me
807
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,166
because they heard
about my project.
808
00:53:18,166 --> 00:53:19,966
Every time someone
would give me something
809
00:53:19,966 --> 00:53:21,500
they would tell
someone about it,
810
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:23,466
so people were just
knocking on my door
811
00:53:23,466 --> 00:53:25,200
left and right and
saying, "When I was a kid
812
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,333
"we used to do this;
or here's this."
813
00:53:27,333 --> 00:53:29,766
This girl cleaned out
here medicine cabinet
814
00:53:29,766 --> 00:53:34,766
and she gave me one blue,
one milligram Xanax,
815
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400
one and a half
rocks of [mumbles],
816
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,400
one Vicodin and
then a totem pole.
817
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,166
And I just took them all.
818
00:53:42,166 --> 00:53:44,766
Originally I was
going to do one a day
819
00:53:44,766 --> 00:53:48,333
but then by the time I
think I got to about--
820
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:54,100
This one says I took a day off
821
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,566
and did nothing but Percocet.
822
00:53:56,566 --> 00:53:59,600
So I think I was already
doing more than one a day
823
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,133
but I'd wait until it wore
off and I felt normal,
824
00:54:02,133 --> 00:54:03,533
and then I would do another one.
825
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:05,366
But by this day
I was taking more
826
00:54:05,366 --> 00:54:07,900
than one thing at a time.
827
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:10,133
It was getting to
be quite a bit.
828
00:54:10,133 --> 00:54:14,566
Then I did mushrooms, the
psychedelic mushrooms.
829
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,633
Right as it started kicking in,
830
00:54:18,633 --> 00:54:20,833
my eyes started getting bigger,
831
00:54:20,833 --> 00:54:23,266
and colors, and then my whole--
832
00:54:23,266 --> 00:54:26,333
It's weird, all these
pixels started radiating
833
00:54:26,333 --> 00:54:28,100
and flying out of my face.
834
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:29,833
By the time it got
to here I couldn't
835
00:54:29,833 --> 00:54:33,233
even draw anymore,so it ended.
836
00:54:33,233 --> 00:54:36,933
I mean, the drawing
ended at a good point,
837
00:54:36,933 --> 00:54:40,200
I got a lot of
details and stuff.
838
00:54:41,833 --> 00:54:44,266
This one, after
that, the next day
839
00:54:44,266 --> 00:54:46,233
I went to a
psychiatrist and I said,
840
00:54:46,233 --> 00:54:49,900
"Here's my pictures on
all these different drugs,
841
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:51,600
"I'm doing this experiment."
842
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,266
Nobody had given
me anything else
843
00:54:53,266 --> 00:54:54,833
after the mushrooms and I said,
844
00:54:54,833 --> 00:54:57,700
"I just want a
prescription for one pill
845
00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:59,933
"of every type of thing
I haven't done yet."
846
00:54:59,933 --> 00:55:02,166
And what he did
instead was he thought
847
00:55:02,166 --> 00:55:05,600
I was psychotic for taking
all these different pills.
848
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,000
So he gave me a prescription
for 100 Seroquel pills,
849
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,033
which are heavy
tranquilizers and it
850
00:55:11,033 --> 00:55:13,500
was the worst
experience of my life.
851
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:17,166
The worst drug I
have ever ingested
852
00:55:17,166 --> 00:55:21,400
was a Seroquel
tranquilizer pill.
853
00:55:27,133 --> 00:55:29,266
You can see I was
having to fight it
854
00:55:29,266 --> 00:55:32,366
the whole time, to
be just to draw.
855
00:55:32,366 --> 00:55:35,000
I started off doing
the proportions,
856
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,600
getting the ears and
the cheeks and the eyes
857
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,833
and everything right,
and then all of a sudden
858
00:55:39,833 --> 00:55:42,333
something inside me,
like an inner voice said,
859
00:55:42,333 --> 00:55:44,433
"Don't look at the mirror!"
860
00:55:44,433 --> 00:55:46,833
So then I just kept
drawing in the book.
861
00:55:46,833 --> 00:55:48,666
And then the same voice said,
862
00:55:48,666 --> 00:55:50,466
"Don't look at your book!"
863
00:55:50,466 --> 00:55:55,466
Then I thought, "Oh my gosh,
I may need to lay down."
864
00:55:56,066 --> 00:55:58,266
And I looked over at
my bed and it said,
865
00:55:58,266 --> 00:56:00,433
"Don't look at your
bed," like that,
866
00:56:00,433 --> 00:56:02,966
and I was just stuck.
867
00:56:02,966 --> 00:56:06,066
The medicine was trying
to cut my brain off
868
00:56:06,066 --> 00:56:09,266
from my body.
869
00:56:09,266 --> 00:56:12,666
It really effects you,
probably your nervous system
870
00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:15,900
and I had to
physically force myself
871
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,300
to keep drawing through
the worst feeling ever.
872
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,033
And it was then that I realized
873
00:56:20,033 --> 00:56:22,800
that when they shoot a lion with
874
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,200
a tranquilizer dart, or if a
bear gets trapped in a tree
875
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,766
and they need to shoot it
with a tranquilizer dart,
876
00:56:28,766 --> 00:56:30,433
it always looks to
me like it's drunk,
877
00:56:30,433 --> 00:56:33,233
like in La-la
Land, but it's not.
878
00:56:33,233 --> 00:56:36,066
In real life that
lion still wants
879
00:56:36,066 --> 00:56:39,666
to chew their throats
out of all those people
880
00:56:39,666 --> 00:56:41,933
It just can't move; that
inner voice is saying,
881
00:56:41,933 --> 00:56:44,266
"Don't rip their
throats out," like that.
882
00:56:44,266 --> 00:56:48,133
So it's scary, one of
the most terrifying
883
00:56:48,133 --> 00:56:50,200
things I've ever experienced.
884
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,366
Then, this is Ambien.
885
00:56:54,066 --> 00:56:56,166
And I kept getting lower
and lower to the floor,
886
00:56:56,166 --> 00:56:59,733
by the time I got
to my body, my arm
887
00:56:59,733 --> 00:57:03,500
was not even attached
in the same place.
888
00:57:04,366 --> 00:57:06,300
Then Buspar, I snorted--
889
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,366
I crushed it up and snorted it
890
00:57:08,366 --> 00:57:11,900
because they said it
would act faster that way.
891
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,333
Then I drank a bunch
of cough syrup.
892
00:57:22,133 --> 00:57:24,366
And my friend, when
she saw this, she said,
893
00:57:24,366 --> 00:57:26,600
"You're giving yourself
Down Syndrome,"
894
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,500
but I already knew that,
kind of, subconciously
895
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,166
because I found this
Korean book in the trash
896
00:57:32,166 --> 00:57:35,466
and found a picture of a
girl with Down Syndrome
897
00:57:35,466 --> 00:57:37,266
and put it on there.
898
00:57:37,266 --> 00:57:41,166
And I was drunk, almost
hallucinating on cough syrup
899
00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:44,266
and I went to this Chinese
restaurant up the street
900
00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:46,566
to ask what this
meant because I knew
901
00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:49,633
there was the lady at
the, when you walk in,
902
00:57:49,633 --> 00:57:52,233
the greeter, was
Korean, so I was trying
903
00:57:52,233 --> 00:57:54,633
to find out what it meant
and she wrote something
904
00:57:54,633 --> 00:57:59,000
and that said, "A
very beautiful woman."
905
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,400
So here's me and some
Korean; it's very strange.
906
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,100
Then this was huffing
lighter fluids.
907
00:58:07,066 --> 00:58:09,300
Some old man knocked
on my door and he said,
908
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:12,133
"When I was a kid we used
to huff lighter fluid,"
909
00:58:12,133 --> 00:58:15,433
and he just stuffed his hand,
gave me some lighter fluid.
910
00:58:15,433 --> 00:58:19,266
He said, "Put it on a
sock, stick in a brown bag,
911
00:58:19,266 --> 00:58:22,266
"and just breathe that stuff
and you'll get real messed up."
912
00:58:22,266 --> 00:58:25,233
And I did it, but I
really liked the fact
913
00:58:25,233 --> 00:58:29,666
that I subconsciously
picked this metallic crayons
914
00:58:29,666 --> 00:58:33,200
because it really
shows the fumes.
915
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,000
When I look at it I
can still smell it
916
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,366
and see the fumes
and the blurry eye,
917
00:58:39,366 --> 00:58:42,300
like that metal
smell or something.
918
00:58:42,866 --> 00:58:45,600
Then this one was Ritalin.
919
00:58:46,633 --> 00:58:49,200
It didn't really do
too much to me, really.
920
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,100
Like, in the other books
you've seen more wild.
921
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,200
Then this one, I made PCP.
922
00:58:59,666 --> 00:59:02,733
My face, you can see it's
coming off in sections
923
00:59:02,733 --> 00:59:05,866
and then this is some
vomit, not in real life,
924
00:59:05,866 --> 00:59:10,066
this is drawing,
painted, but I vomited.
925
00:59:10,066 --> 00:59:12,333
I had eaten a sandwich
earlier that day
926
00:59:12,333 --> 00:59:15,966
that had some tomato
in it and then did
927
00:59:15,966 --> 00:59:19,866
the PCP and everything, then
someone knocked on my door
928
00:59:19,866 --> 00:59:22,900
and said, "Oh, I heard you
was on the Appalachian Trail,
929
00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:25,400
"and you got a lot of
pictures and stuff."
930
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,433
So invited them all in
and I was sitting around
931
00:59:28,433 --> 00:59:31,766
telling 40 different
people that--
932
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,200
I was showing them the
Appalachian Trail book
933
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,300
and then something told me,
934
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:39,466
"Bryan, these
people aren't real."
935
00:59:39,466 --> 00:59:42,433
And I was like, "Whoa,
this is messed up!"
936
00:59:42,433 --> 00:59:44,533
Then there'd a knock at the door
937
00:59:44,533 --> 00:59:46,466
and they'd say, "Oh
hi, Bryan, I heard
938
00:59:46,466 --> 00:59:48,233
"you were on the
Appalachian Trail."
939
00:59:48,233 --> 00:59:51,300
I let them all in, 20,30 people
940
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,033
and after, like,
a half hour or so,
941
00:59:53,033 --> 00:59:54,633
showing them all that
book and telling them all
942
00:59:54,633 --> 00:59:58,166
these crazy stories, BAM, these
people aren't real. [laughs]
943
00:59:58,166 --> 01:00:01,333
And I would totally freak out.
944
01:00:01,333 --> 01:00:03,333
After I realized the
third or fourth time
945
01:00:03,333 --> 01:00:07,133
that this kept happening,
I went and vomited
946
01:00:07,133 --> 01:00:11,066
and all this red
stuff was coming out
947
01:00:11,066 --> 01:00:12,566
of my nose and I thought,
948
01:00:12,566 --> 01:00:15,700
"Oh my god, my brain is
falling out of my nose."
949
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:17,933
But it wasn't; it
was that tomato
950
01:00:17,933 --> 01:00:19,400
that was in that sandwich.
951
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,266
But I was on PCP and I thought
my brain was falling out.
952
01:00:23,266 --> 01:00:24,900
And then that's when I quit.
953
01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:28,000
I mean, I've done
others since then
954
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,766
but that's when that
little experiment ended.
955
01:00:30,766 --> 01:00:33,333
I couldn't keep going on
like that; it was crazy.
956
01:00:33,333 --> 01:00:38,333
[dramatic music]
957
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:28,566
When I was living with my aunt,
958
01:02:28,566 --> 01:02:32,466
my second cousin, which
was a small child,
959
01:02:32,466 --> 01:02:37,066
and her mother,
and my grandmother
960
01:02:37,066 --> 01:02:41,800
and my great-aunt, there
was a lot of chaos.
961
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:46,233
I was living in a trailer
in central Virginia
962
01:02:46,233 --> 01:02:51,233
and a lot of arguing and
typical family-type of drama
963
01:02:52,033 --> 01:02:54,400
but it was somewhat
stressful because
964
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,766
the child was involved.
965
01:02:56,766 --> 01:03:00,766
My great-aunt, she was in the
last stages of Alzheimer's
966
01:03:00,766 --> 01:03:03,600
and couldn't remember
anything past 18 seconds,
967
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,600
so she was constantly
repeating the same questions.
968
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,800
My grandmother had
a couple strokes,
969
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,633
there was just all
this stress around me.
970
01:03:14,633 --> 01:03:18,100
And so I thought, "Well,
I'd like to go to China."
971
01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:21,166
I thought if I went
to China and I heard
972
01:03:21,166 --> 01:03:25,300
all of these people
talking in Chinese
973
01:03:28,233 --> 01:03:31,500
I wouldn't mind, like,
I could live with that.
974
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:35,200
Then I thought, "Well,
if I go to China,
975
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,066
"I've heard so much stuff," like
976
01:03:37,066 --> 01:03:40,433
they drown their girl babies,
977
01:03:40,433 --> 01:03:42,633
there's just so much
outrageous things.
978
01:03:42,633 --> 01:03:44,666
All my life, from
elementary school on,
979
01:03:44,666 --> 01:03:46,433
I've heard all these outrageous
things, and I thought,
980
01:03:46,433 --> 01:03:50,033
"Well, if I go there, I
better learn Chinese first,
981
01:03:50,033 --> 01:03:51,466
"in case the people
started yelling at me
982
01:03:51,466 --> 01:03:53,100
"I'll know what they're saying."
983
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:57,400
So for 6 hours a day,
everyday, 7 days a week
984
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:02,266
for 9 months straight, I
taught myself Mandarin Chinese.
985
01:04:02,266 --> 01:04:04,466
While I was doing
this I would go,
986
01:04:04,466 --> 01:04:07,300
every now and then, to the
Chinese restaurant in town
987
01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:10,466
and I could practice,
and say some things.
988
01:04:10,466 --> 01:04:12,900
Then there was a
waiter I befriended
989
01:04:12,900 --> 01:04:16,233
and he would come
over once a week
990
01:04:16,233 --> 01:04:17,833
and I would teach him English.
991
01:04:17,833 --> 01:04:19,166
We didn't really
do too much; I did
992
01:04:19,166 --> 01:04:22,633
the Chinese all on
my own, but I really
993
01:04:22,633 --> 01:04:26,133
tried to help him learn English.
994
01:04:26,133 --> 01:04:28,600
But somewhere along that
line I thought to myself,
995
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,366
"Well, if I learn
Mandarin Chinese,"
996
01:04:32,366 --> 01:04:37,366
and I know it really well,
I go to some city in China
997
01:04:40,033 --> 01:04:43,600
where there's no foreigners
at all, no tourism,
998
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,766
no white people; I'm the
only white person there
999
01:04:47,766 --> 01:04:52,766
and I tell jokes in Chinese
and do stand-up comedy,
1000
01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:55,700
I thought, "Well, I could become
1001
01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:58,800
"a famous comedian instantly."
1002
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,933
Because they have so
many millions of people.
1003
01:05:00,933 --> 01:05:05,033
Then I thought, "If
I do stand-up comedy
1004
01:05:05,033 --> 01:05:10,033
"in China, within nine months
I'll have my own sitcom,"
1005
01:05:13,066 --> 01:05:15,133
and stuff, like
Seinfeld or something,
1006
01:05:15,133 --> 01:05:17,966
And then I thought,
"Well, right after
1007
01:05:17,966 --> 01:05:19,333
"that I'll be doing
blockbuster movies,
1008
01:05:19,333 --> 01:05:22,666
I'll become a superstar,
a Chinese superstar."
1009
01:05:22,666 --> 01:05:27,666
And I really believed that this
could be a real possibility.
1010
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,900
Then I did a Chinese
wedding in New York
1011
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:35,133
after about nine months of
teaching myself Mandarin
1012
01:05:35,133 --> 01:05:38,300
I performed my, I wrote
a routine and everything,
1013
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:41,700
and I performed my stand-up
comedy at a Chinese wedding
1014
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:43,633
and it was a big
hit, and I thought,
1015
01:05:43,633 --> 01:05:45,766
"Well, this is a
real possibility.
1016
01:05:45,766 --> 01:05:48,100
"I'm doing it, I'm
going to China,
1017
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:50,800
"I'm going to become a
famous stand-up comedian.
1018
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,366
"Within a year, or a
little over a year,
1019
01:05:53,366 --> 01:05:55,500
"I'll be a Chinese superstar."
1020
01:05:55,500 --> 01:06:00,533
Then I get to China
and after a couple days
1021
01:06:02,966 --> 01:06:05,866
I met a guy on the
street that had lived
1022
01:06:05,866 --> 01:06:08,233
in the United States
for quite a while
1023
01:06:08,233 --> 01:06:11,966
and he spoke English and I said,
1024
01:06:11,966 --> 01:06:13,900
"Where is the stand-up comedy?
1025
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:16,766
"I want to be a
stand-up comedian."
1026
01:06:16,766 --> 01:06:18,833
And he said, "We
don't have that here."
1027
01:06:18,833 --> 01:06:22,033
and I was like, "Oh my gosh."
1028
01:06:22,033 --> 01:06:25,433
All my dreams were
completely shattered.
1029
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,333
Then when I found myself
back in the United States
1030
01:06:35,333 --> 01:06:38,666
I thought, "I cannot be
a stand-up comedian."
1031
01:06:38,666 --> 01:06:43,066
There's thousands and thousands
of stand-up comedians,
1032
01:06:43,066 --> 01:06:46,666
everyone wants to be
a stand-up comedian,
1033
01:06:46,666 --> 01:06:50,033
there's just so
much luck involved
1034
01:06:50,033 --> 01:06:52,933
and all this other type of
business trying to do that.
1035
01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:57,933
And then I'm here, back
in this nasty place
1036
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:00,966
where I was a long time ago.
1037
01:07:00,966 --> 01:07:02,466
And I was like,
"The hell with it,
1038
01:07:02,466 --> 01:07:04,900
"I'm going to start
stand-up tragedy."
1039
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:07,233
Instead of making
strangers laugh in public
1040
01:07:07,233 --> 01:07:09,600
I'm going to make them cry.
1041
01:07:11,233 --> 01:07:14,266
I started doing it
at this coffee shop.
1042
01:07:14,266 --> 01:07:17,033
I was nervous,
like stage fright,
1043
01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:21,066
so I read other people's poetry,
1044
01:07:21,066 --> 01:07:25,933
or some writings, but
I read it my own way
1045
01:07:25,933 --> 01:07:27,833
because, see, I'd been
doing the self-portraits
1046
01:07:27,833 --> 01:07:31,800
the whole time,
for over 10 years.
1047
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,833
It was putting
all of my feelings
1048
01:07:35,833 --> 01:07:40,833
into a little 8.5 by 11.5
inch sketchbook page.
1049
01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:45,400
So I was constantly
putting all my feelings
1050
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,900
into this confining
little place.
1051
01:07:47,900 --> 01:07:50,266
Then when I started to decide,
1052
01:07:50,266 --> 01:07:54,566
"Okay, I'm going to
do this other stuff,"
1053
01:07:54,566 --> 01:07:58,733
it was an explosion of emotion.
1054
01:08:01,133 --> 01:08:02,900
I was bottled up into such
1055
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:04,966
a little tiny
place, surface area.
1056
01:08:04,966 --> 01:08:07,766
When I started reading
the other people's poetry
1057
01:08:07,766 --> 01:08:11,366
I just went off, I just
read it like I wanted to;
1058
01:08:11,366 --> 01:08:13,300
as aggressive as I wanted,
as deranged sounding,
1059
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:18,300
or whatever I wanted, I just
did it really outrageously
1060
01:08:18,733 --> 01:08:22,966
Then I started
writing my own stuff.
1061
01:08:22,966 --> 01:08:24,633
I'd read these other
people's things;
1062
01:08:24,633 --> 01:08:27,700
I did it twice, reading
other people's stuff,
1063
01:08:27,700 --> 01:08:29,600
then I wrote one
thing, or two things,
1064
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,833
and then I went and did
it again the next week
1065
01:08:31,833 --> 01:08:33,800
that way, with my
own stuff and it
1066
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,933
had even more emotion in it.
1067
01:08:35,933 --> 01:08:39,100
Then one of the side
goals in my mind
1068
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:44,100
was to make psychopaths or
sociopaths have feelings.
1069
01:08:44,466 --> 01:08:47,266
I've been concerned
with this quite a bit.
1070
01:08:47,266 --> 01:08:52,133
So I tried to use
videos, microphone.
1071
01:08:52,133 --> 01:08:54,766
My name is Bryan Lewis Saunders,
1072
01:08:54,766 --> 01:08:58,033
I'm 16 and I'm
allergic to popcorn.
1073
01:08:58,033 --> 01:09:03,033
Sounds, experimental
music to evoke
1074
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,466
as much feeling into
people as possible.
1075
01:09:06,466 --> 01:09:10,866
I was hoping I could do
it so intense that even
1076
01:09:10,866 --> 01:09:14,000
a psychopath would have
feelings and be upset.
1077
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,766
I was a little bit delusional
because no matter what
1078
01:09:16,766 --> 01:09:20,600
the people, the psychopaths
would take it the wrong way.
1079
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,266
You can say anything
about some animal torture
1080
01:09:24,266 --> 01:09:27,566
or something and they
will think it's funny.
1081
01:09:27,566 --> 01:09:30,000
It just depends on
who the people are
1082
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,333
but the psychopath that's
there in the audience,
1083
01:09:32,333 --> 01:09:35,533
you not doing nothing for
them but entertaining them.
1084
01:09:35,533 --> 01:09:38,166
They got off on
some crazy stuff.
1085
01:09:38,166 --> 01:09:43,166
[melancholy music]
1086
01:11:11,066 --> 01:11:13,700
[eerie music]
1087
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:17,066
The word "daku" has
many definitions,
1088
01:11:17,066 --> 01:11:22,066
like love, time, God,
or any other word.
1089
01:11:24,833 --> 01:11:28,100
Its meaning is its use.
1090
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:31,066
By this I simply mean
that its definition
1091
01:11:31,066 --> 01:11:34,400
lies in our daily conversation.
1092
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,466
So for someone to
say, "What is God,"
1093
01:11:38,466 --> 01:11:43,366
"What is time,"
or "What is Daku,"
1094
01:11:43,366 --> 01:11:47,700
creates linguistic
superstitions.
1095
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:52,666
It creates a mystery where
there really isn't one.
1096
01:11:52,666 --> 01:11:55,533
We know what it is
by how we use it.
1097
01:11:55,533 --> 01:12:00,566
Before I divulge the impact
that Daku has had on my life
1098
01:12:00,633 --> 01:12:04,000
it is both necessary and vital
1099
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:09,000
that I first share with
you the origins of Daku.
1100
01:12:11,366 --> 01:12:16,366
[eerie music]
1101
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:37,333
My first experience with
the mysterious stomach pain
1102
01:13:37,333 --> 01:13:39,800
occurred when I was 16.
1103
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,300
I was at a movie theater
with a friend of mine,
1104
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:46,500
named Craig Whines, eating
popcorn in an aisle seat
1105
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:49,066
when WHAM, I got broadsided by
1106
01:13:49,066 --> 01:13:52,133
the most excrutiating
gigabolt of pain
1107
01:13:52,133 --> 01:13:54,266
comprehensible to man.
1108
01:13:54,266 --> 01:13:57,600
It doubled me over and
my right arm stiffened
1109
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,066
and stopped me from
falling and rolling
1110
01:14:00,066 --> 01:14:02,833
all the way out into the aisle.
1111
01:14:02,833 --> 01:14:05,700
I could have make a
somersault out of it.
1112
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:08,933
But you don't show
pain in public.
1113
01:14:10,633 --> 01:14:13,666
After the initial
shock, it felt as if
1114
01:14:13,666 --> 01:14:16,000
the whole left
side of my abdomen
1115
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,566
was being pinched by
an industrial strength
metal clothespin
1116
01:14:20,566 --> 01:14:22,433
that had been
heated up and stuck
1117
01:14:22,433 --> 01:14:24,600
where a drill bit
is supposed to go
1118
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,733
and then run in reverse,
drawing me up tighter
1119
01:14:26,733 --> 01:14:29,366
and tighter until
is stripped around,
1120
01:14:29,366 --> 01:14:32,366
triple knotted, burning
more tissue in my gut
1121
01:14:32,366 --> 01:14:35,433
and I couldn't move.
1122
01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:40,633
Emotionally, fear and anger
are brother and sister,
1123
01:14:40,633 --> 01:14:42,166
stay with me here.
1124
01:14:42,166 --> 01:14:45,900
My anticipation of
more pain equals fear
1125
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:48,866
and my perception of
doctors as ignorant
1126
01:14:48,866 --> 01:14:51,200
equals anger, and when
both of these feelings
1127
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,300
taboo fornicate inside my head
1128
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:56,500
I became the proud
father of a bouncing,
1129
01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:59,566
new baby bad blood
emotional incest offspring
1130
01:14:59,566 --> 01:15:03,400
of hatred towards man like
none I've ever known before.
1131
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,800
I have this little
pet; it's name is Daku.
1132
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,700
All of his teeth
and claws came in,
1133
01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:11,266
I no longer eat,
I only feed him.
1134
01:15:11,266 --> 01:15:13,533
He can't be killed unless I die.
1135
01:15:13,533 --> 01:15:15,633
He is an invisible part of me.
1136
01:15:15,633 --> 01:15:17,433
Daku is bad mystery.
1137
01:15:17,433 --> 01:15:20,733
No one, not even doctors
with all of their machines
1138
01:15:20,733 --> 01:15:23,433
can see him, machines
might make him high
1139
01:15:23,433 --> 01:15:24,800
but medicine makes him angry.
1140
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,900
And we don't want him angry!
1141
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:28,800
He digs and claws,
meats and tears,
1142
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,566
rips and gnaws and
chews tunnels in my gut
1143
01:15:31,566 --> 01:15:33,066
always moving forwards.
1144
01:15:33,066 --> 01:15:35,266
Sometimes I feel
like rescuing him
1145
01:15:35,266 --> 01:15:37,233
by taking a knife
and freeing him.
1146
01:15:37,233 --> 01:15:38,600
Cut Daku out!
1147
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,633
Sometimes I think he's cancer.
1148
01:15:40,633 --> 01:15:43,400
Daku says "yes", but
the doctors say "no."
1149
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,000
I get a pain in my chest
when he's not in his nest.
1150
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,833
I can't walk when he's hungry,
1151
01:15:47,833 --> 01:15:49,800
I can't sleep when he's lonely.
1152
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,900
I've often tried
to talk to the Daku
1153
01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:54,200
but he doesn't listen
very well, either.
1154
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,766
He's unruly and I
think Daku is deaf.
1155
01:15:56,766 --> 01:15:59,866
If I stabbed him I'd
be certain of relief.
1156
01:15:59,866 --> 01:16:02,800
Daku hates to be petted
so I poke at him.
1157
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,400
He's outgrowing his tank.
1158
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,066
Daku can also eat in
two different places
at the same time.
1159
01:16:08,066 --> 01:16:11,366
He's right here just
begging me to stab him,
1160
01:16:11,366 --> 01:16:13,833
gut him, gut
myself, pull him out
1161
01:16:13,833 --> 01:16:15,233
and stomp on the Daku.
1162
01:16:15,233 --> 01:16:17,666
Daku is no friend,
Daku is killing me!
1163
01:16:17,666 --> 01:16:20,466
["killing me" echoes]
1164
01:16:20,466 --> 01:16:25,466
[crowd cheers]
1165
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:40,900
[melancholy paino music]
1166
01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:29,500
[upbeat music]
1167
01:17:30,566 --> 01:17:32,400
A lot of the time
people, I think,
1168
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,266
when it comes to me
they're just trying
1169
01:17:34,266 --> 01:17:36,566
to figure out if what I'm
doing is even real or not.
1170
01:17:36,566 --> 01:17:41,566
I don't fault them with it;
it's just the times we live in.
1171
01:17:42,333 --> 01:17:46,000
I consider myself
weird, I know I'm weird.
1172
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:50,500
If you isolate yourself,
you develop weird ideas.
1173
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:53,366
I wouldn't film me walking
through here, though.
1174
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,233
Let's take these stairs.
1175
01:18:02,233 --> 01:18:04,500
Because I interact
socially with people online
1176
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:08,533
and with the phone,
I'm not totally alone
1177
01:18:08,533 --> 01:18:11,666
and I've got friends
that can say,
1178
01:18:11,666 --> 01:18:13,233
"You're getting a little bit--
1179
01:18:13,233 --> 01:18:16,233
"That's too much,
that's too weird,
1180
01:18:18,166 --> 01:18:20,333
"That's not really the
politically correct way
1181
01:18:20,333 --> 01:18:23,466
"to go about expressing that,"
1182
01:18:23,466 --> 01:18:26,300
I get feedback.
1183
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:28,733
I will say that I'm
definitely strange,
1184
01:18:28,733 --> 01:18:33,733
I would definitely say I would
think of myself as weird.
1185
01:18:35,333 --> 01:18:39,500
Some people might
think of me as creepy;
1186
01:18:40,166 --> 01:18:41,966
I don't think I'm
creepy, I think
1187
01:18:41,966 --> 01:18:45,133
that people might
be creeps themselves
1188
01:18:45,133 --> 01:18:47,566
and see something of
that creepy nature
1189
01:18:47,566 --> 01:18:50,533
in them, and then be
like, "Oh, that's creepy."
1190
01:18:50,533 --> 01:18:54,166
because it maybe affects them.
1191
01:18:54,166 --> 01:18:55,833
I don't set out to be
like, "Oh, I'm going
1192
01:18:55,833 --> 01:18:58,500
"to be as creepy as possible,"
or something like that.
1193
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,900
If I was going to do
that, I'd be a real creep,
1194
01:19:02,900 --> 01:19:04,700
I mean I would creep
people out big-time,
1195
01:19:04,700 --> 01:19:07,800
more than they could handle it.
1196
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,233
I don't have any
desire to do that.
1197
01:19:10,233 --> 01:19:14,166
I'm sure that some people
think that I'm creepy.
1198
01:19:17,566 --> 01:19:20,566
But I tell stories like this.
1199
01:19:20,566 --> 01:19:24,266
It doesn't haunt
me so much, like,
1200
01:19:24,266 --> 01:19:27,133
I don't still fear
the bad people.
1201
01:19:27,133 --> 01:19:29,900
I really became one of them.
1202
01:19:29,900 --> 01:19:32,966
I still have this negative
self-image a lot of times,
1203
01:19:32,966 --> 01:19:36,666
like, oh I'm a bad person, I
became one of the bad people.
1204
01:19:36,666 --> 01:19:41,666
But people that know
me now, and don't know
1205
01:19:43,233 --> 01:19:45,133
anything about me in this past
1206
01:19:45,133 --> 01:19:47,100
other than what I say
during my performances
1207
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:48,900
or in my books, or
dreams and things.
1208
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:52,633
They would never think
I was a bad person.
1209
01:19:53,900 --> 01:19:58,900
I use the art, really,
to change my life
1210
01:19:59,366 --> 01:20:01,433
and become a good person.
1211
01:20:01,433 --> 01:20:05,233
I need to more accepting
that I am a good person,
1212
01:20:05,233 --> 01:20:06,433
try to be a good person
1213
01:20:06,433 --> 01:20:10,766
but I fear under certain stress,
1214
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or some situations,
social situations,
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I could easily revert; I
have that ingrained into me
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that kind of anger, and
lack of emotions sometimes
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and I have to try to
really stay focused.
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And I isolate myself, really,
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so I don't get involved in that.
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When it comes to the dark side
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in the arts, and
the tortured soul,
1223
01:20:53,033 --> 01:20:56,733
the tortured people are
the ones that give a shit.
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01:20:56,733 --> 01:20:59,033
The tortured people are
the people that care.
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So there's nothing
wrong with that.
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01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,166
And art is probably
the greatest tool
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we have right now
to deal with it,
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to deal with all of it.
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01:21:11,933 --> 01:21:14,333
I'd say there's a
real great link.
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01:21:14,333 --> 01:21:16,400
Some kids get into art because
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they don't know what else to do,
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01:21:18,033 --> 01:21:20,266
so at the universities
they'll tell them,
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"Well, you don't
have to be tortured,
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01:21:21,966 --> 01:21:25,633
"you don't have to do this,
you can just like images,"
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01:21:25,633 --> 01:21:28,866
but a lot of times I think
there's something lacking.
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01:21:28,866 --> 01:21:33,366
I would suggest that
if someone is not upset
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01:21:33,366 --> 01:21:35,266
they want to be an
artist, they like art,
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01:21:35,266 --> 01:21:39,300
they think it's really
interesting, and
they're not upset,
1239
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:41,233
I'd say find something
to get upset about.
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Go there and then you
can really be inspired
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01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,100
and do some great
stuff that will provoke
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01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:51,033
other people to
use their brains.
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Because there's not
even enough people
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01:21:52,666 --> 01:21:55,400
in the Western world
really even using
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01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,900
their brains anymore,
and it gets worse
1246
01:21:57,900 --> 01:22:00,633
as time goes by, that
they're doing less thinking,
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01:22:00,633 --> 01:22:04,500
more repeating,
more cut and paste.
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01:22:07,333 --> 01:22:09,333
So I would recommend to people
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01:22:09,333 --> 01:22:14,333
get tortured, become a
tortured soul, really.
1250
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,600
I don't suggest go
out and get drunk
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01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,200
or create problems for yourself,
1252
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,266
but I would just say,
"Find out what bothers you
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01:22:24,266 --> 01:22:29,266
"and explore it, find
out what upsets you,
1254
01:22:29,366 --> 01:22:31,700
"find out what really
gets your goat,
1255
01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:35,700
"what really pisses you
off, and then explore that."
1256
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:39,366
Ask yourself, "Why is
that, what is it about me
1257
01:22:39,366 --> 01:22:43,233
"that makes react this
way, or feel this way,"
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01:22:43,233 --> 01:22:44,866
and then go there.
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01:22:44,866 --> 01:22:46,666
And they're going to do
some interesting stuff
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01:22:46,666 --> 01:22:48,000
no matter who they are; whether
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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,033
they're really that
tortured or not.
1262
01:22:50,033 --> 01:22:53,000
You don't have to be
insane and ranting
1263
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,133
and raving, and flopping around
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01:22:56,133 --> 01:22:58,500
and cutting parts
of your body off
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01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:01,200
to do great art; you
just have to give a shit.
1266
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,533
You just have to
care about something.
1267
01:23:04,533 --> 01:23:06,800
And not enough people do.
1268
01:23:08,166 --> 01:23:10,566
I would just
recommend people care.
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01:23:10,566 --> 01:23:15,566
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