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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:16,407 --> 00:01:17,806 All right, sweetie. 2 00:01:33,567 --> 00:01:35,125 Oh, look, you brought her! 3 00:01:35,167 --> 00:01:36,486 Oh, what's she called? 4 00:01:36,527 --> 00:01:38,119 Angela Dawn. 5 00:01:38,167 --> 00:01:40,362 - Oh, she's just gorgeous! - I know. 6 00:01:40,407 --> 00:01:44,195 Everyone says she looks like Dave, but I reckon she looks like me. 7 00:01:44,247 --> 00:01:45,441 Moby! 8 00:01:46,367 --> 00:01:48,164 Oh. I'll see you after. 9 00:01:48,207 --> 00:01:50,323 - He's lovely. - I'll see you in a minute. 10 00:01:51,327 --> 00:01:53,318 What a lovely surprise! 11 00:01:53,367 --> 00:01:56,484 I promised the girls that I'd pop back with the baby. 12 00:01:56,527 --> 00:01:59,678 Sod the other girls! They're not her auntie. I want her. 13 00:01:59,727 --> 00:02:01,319 There you go. 14 00:02:01,367 --> 00:02:05,155 Oh, you get bonnier by the day. 15 00:02:05,207 --> 00:02:07,516 Don't you, my little Angela Dawn? 16 00:02:07,567 --> 00:02:09,558 Eh? Ooh, eh? 17 00:02:10,727 --> 00:02:15,198 Have you no care at all about the reputation of this company, Miss Hindley? 18 00:02:15,247 --> 00:02:20,526 You of all people should know that the word "consignment" 19 00:02:20,567 --> 00:02:22,558 contains a letter G. 20 00:02:23,567 --> 00:02:25,558 And it's no' there. 21 00:02:26,767 --> 00:02:28,758 I do apologise, Mr Brady. 22 00:02:29,647 --> 00:02:31,239 Retype it, please. 23 00:02:32,167 --> 00:02:33,759 Of course, 24 00:02:33,807 --> 00:02:35,399 Mr Brady. 25 00:02:37,287 --> 00:02:38,879 Ssh! Ssh. 26 00:02:39,807 --> 00:02:42,002 - Ian. - Maureen. 27 00:02:42,047 --> 00:02:44,242 So, where's the father? 28 00:02:44,287 --> 00:02:47,643 In the Tap Room in the Steelworks' with his old man, I'll bet. 29 00:02:47,687 --> 00:02:51,646 No, Dave's come over all responsible since she was born. You wouldn't believe it. 30 00:02:51,687 --> 00:02:53,678 You're right. I wouldn't. 31 00:02:54,807 --> 00:02:56,798 He's scarce more than a kid himself. 32 00:02:56,847 --> 00:02:59,839 No, honest, he's taking fatherhood dead seriously. 33 00:02:59,887 --> 00:03:02,037 I've just left him soaking nappies. 34 00:03:02,087 --> 00:03:03,884 Good. 35 00:03:05,207 --> 00:03:06,720 Erm... 36 00:03:06,767 --> 00:03:08,485 Listen, erm... 37 00:03:08,527 --> 00:03:13,157 Ian and I were only saying the other night, it's about time you brought Dave round. 38 00:03:14,167 --> 00:03:16,362 Give him a proper welcome to the family. 39 00:03:16,407 --> 00:03:20,958 I mean...he and Ian are practically brothers-in-law now and yet... 40 00:03:21,007 --> 00:03:23,202 Well, they still hardly know each other. 41 00:03:24,207 --> 00:03:26,004 Yeah. I'd love to come round. 42 00:03:28,487 --> 00:03:31,479 Good. Good. 43 00:03:31,527 --> 00:03:34,041 I don't see the point in going round to Myra's. 44 00:03:34,087 --> 00:03:38,160 She doesn't like me. As for Ian, I can't make head nor bloody tail of him. 45 00:03:38,207 --> 00:03:43,122 Dave, we agreed, we're making a new start and that includes my mam and dad. 46 00:03:45,127 --> 00:03:47,402 - Hiya, Mam. - Hello, love. 47 00:03:47,447 --> 00:03:49,438 - Hiya, Dad. - You're late, aren't you? 48 00:03:49,487 --> 00:03:52,126 I know. It's taken ages getting her stuff together. 49 00:03:52,167 --> 00:03:55,079 - You're sure you don't mind? - Of course not. Any time. 50 00:03:56,687 --> 00:03:58,678 - Ooh. - Hello. 51 00:03:58,727 --> 00:04:00,365 Aaah. Give her to me. 52 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:02,398 I don't think we should leave her. 53 00:04:02,447 --> 00:04:05,644 Oh, come on, of course you can. Give her to me. 54 00:04:06,767 --> 00:04:08,837 Come on, David. We're all family now. 55 00:04:08,887 --> 00:04:10,878 Ooh, there you are. 56 00:04:10,927 --> 00:04:12,406 Yeah. 57 00:04:12,447 --> 00:04:14,039 She'll be fine. 58 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:16,078 You get off to Myra's. 59 00:04:16,127 --> 00:04:17,606 Let's go. 60 00:04:17,647 --> 00:04:20,002 - See you later. - Ta-ra, love. 61 00:04:20,047 --> 00:04:21,765 Ee! Ee. 62 00:04:23,727 --> 00:04:26,719 Hey, come on, you. They won't bite. 63 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:29,042 - Hiya, Gran. - Hello, Maureen, love. 64 00:04:29,087 --> 00:04:31,760 - Are you all right? - Yeah, fine. Fine, thanks. 65 00:04:32,767 --> 00:04:34,883 - Gran's just going up, aren't you? - Am I? 66 00:04:35,887 --> 00:04:37,718 But she's only just come. 67 00:04:37,767 --> 00:04:39,485 Yeah, and you're tired. 68 00:04:39,527 --> 00:04:42,519 Come on. I'll bring you a cuppa and a slice of bread and butter. 69 00:04:42,567 --> 00:04:43,477 Hello. 70 00:04:43,527 --> 00:04:46,519 Night, love. Nice to see you. - Yeah, you, too. 71 00:04:46,567 --> 00:04:49,400 Eh! Don't forget that. There you go. 72 00:04:54,647 --> 00:04:56,842 - And how are you, buggalugs? - All right. 73 00:04:58,647 --> 00:05:00,638 Anyone fancy a drink? 74 00:05:01,847 --> 00:05:03,838 Do the honours, Hessy, please. 75 00:05:03,887 --> 00:05:05,479 Jawohl, Liebling. 76 00:05:05,527 --> 00:05:07,085 All right, Ian? 77 00:05:07,887 --> 00:05:10,276 All right, Maureen. How are you? 78 00:05:10,327 --> 00:05:11,806 Good. 79 00:05:11,847 --> 00:05:13,644 And how's the weather? 80 00:05:13,687 --> 00:05:15,279 Not bad. 81 00:05:15,327 --> 00:05:16,806 Good. 82 00:05:16,847 --> 00:05:19,441 - And how is the little 'un? - She's fine, thanks. 83 00:05:19,487 --> 00:05:22,081 - You like dogs, do you? - Yeah, I've got one. 84 00:05:22,127 --> 00:05:24,436 I have a question for you. 85 00:05:25,287 --> 00:05:27,278 Does a dog have a soul? 86 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:28,885 You what? 87 00:05:28,927 --> 00:05:31,839 I said, does a dog have a soul? 88 00:05:33,847 --> 00:05:36,759 We can agree that a dog maybe has a personality. 89 00:05:37,767 --> 00:05:39,917 So why not a soul? 90 00:05:39,967 --> 00:05:42,845 Or maybe you think the entire notion of a soul is trash. 91 00:05:42,887 --> 00:05:44,366 Eh? 92 00:05:45,367 --> 00:05:47,642 That dog is no more than a... 93 00:05:47,687 --> 00:05:49,882 complex biological machine, 94 00:05:49,927 --> 00:05:51,918 as are we, us, here now, 95 00:05:51,967 --> 00:05:53,958 in this room. 96 00:05:54,007 --> 00:05:59,127 And that, by extension, the whole notion of a soul is shite. 97 00:05:59,167 --> 00:06:00,759 Ergo. 98 00:06:00,807 --> 00:06:03,002 The whole notion of God is, too. 99 00:06:07,127 --> 00:06:10,244 Bloody hell, Neddie. You've confused him now. 100 00:06:10,287 --> 00:06:12,403 Language, Hessy, please. Language. 101 00:06:12,447 --> 00:06:14,119 That's rich coming from you. 102 00:06:14,167 --> 00:06:15,805 Are you saying I'm a hypocrite? 103 00:06:15,847 --> 00:06:17,200 Eh? 104 00:06:17,247 --> 00:06:20,364 Then why, why would I have started a swear box? 105 00:06:21,687 --> 00:06:22,483 Eh? 106 00:06:22,527 --> 00:06:24,916 I mean, standards have to be maintained. 107 00:06:24,967 --> 00:06:26,958 Isn't that right, Maureen? 108 00:06:27,007 --> 00:06:31,159 After all, we do share this house with a respectable old lady. 109 00:06:34,207 --> 00:06:36,198 Not to mention a fucking budgie, 110 00:06:36,247 --> 00:06:39,603 who must no', under any circumstances, 111 00:06:39,647 --> 00:06:41,956 be encouraged to learn filth. 112 00:06:42,007 --> 00:06:44,237 Pardon my French, Joey. 113 00:06:45,207 --> 00:06:47,198 Oh, deary me. 114 00:06:47,247 --> 00:06:49,363 That's me skint. 115 00:06:51,807 --> 00:06:54,082 - How are you doing, Dave? - Not bad, Ian. 116 00:06:54,127 --> 00:06:56,277 So, yous got a job yet? 117 00:06:56,327 --> 00:06:59,956 Well, no, but I'm seeing someone next week, so, hopefully. 118 00:07:13,487 --> 00:07:16,081 Eh, you, I thought you were coming straight up. 119 00:07:17,087 --> 00:07:19,476 Does a dog have a soul? 120 00:07:19,527 --> 00:07:21,119 You daft bugger! 121 00:07:22,127 --> 00:07:24,118 I've never met anyone like him. 122 00:07:24,167 --> 00:07:26,886 I told you, Ian can be all right when he wants to be. 123 00:07:26,927 --> 00:07:28,918 Just got to get to know him a bit. 124 00:07:28,967 --> 00:07:31,765 And what's all that Neddie/Hessy stuff? 125 00:07:31,807 --> 00:07:33,798 Hessy! Hessy! 126 00:07:33,847 --> 00:07:35,838 They're just nicknames. 127 00:07:35,887 --> 00:07:40,039 Neddie is from The Goon Show and Myra Hess is some famous piano player. 128 00:07:40,087 --> 00:07:41,679 Never heard of her. 129 00:07:41,727 --> 00:07:44,525 Yeah, well, Ian's into all that kind of stuff. 130 00:07:44,567 --> 00:07:46,956 Classical music. Jazz. Books. 131 00:07:47,007 --> 00:07:48,599 So is Myra now. 132 00:07:48,647 --> 00:07:50,717 I think he's been really good for her. 133 00:07:50,767 --> 00:07:52,758 Opened her mind up to new things. 134 00:07:52,807 --> 00:07:54,604 Not like me, then. 135 00:07:54,647 --> 00:07:56,365 What do you mean? 136 00:07:56,407 --> 00:07:58,159 What have I ever done for you? 137 00:08:00,207 --> 00:08:02,323 Well, not much, really. 138 00:08:02,367 --> 00:08:04,358 Apart from marrying me 139 00:08:04,407 --> 00:08:07,205 and giving me the most beautiful baby in the world. 140 00:08:12,207 --> 00:08:14,198 Come on. Let's go up. 141 00:08:14,247 --> 00:08:16,397 Does a dog have a soul? 142 00:08:16,447 --> 00:08:18,039 Give over! 143 00:08:18,087 --> 00:08:21,079 Ergo, the whole notion of God is shite. 144 00:08:38,767 --> 00:08:40,359 Quick! 145 00:08:42,047 --> 00:08:44,038 Look at that! 146 00:08:50,567 --> 00:08:52,762 Take a picture, Hessy. 147 00:09:01,167 --> 00:09:03,442 Eine andere Flasche, Hessy. 148 00:09:03,487 --> 00:09:05,478 Jawohl, mein Herr. 149 00:09:10,407 --> 00:09:12,967 - So, what do you think, Dave? - I don't get it. 150 00:09:13,007 --> 00:09:14,486 Dave! 151 00:09:14,527 --> 00:09:16,119 It's lovely. 152 00:09:16,167 --> 00:09:19,125 - I don't know what hills are for. - It's wasted on him, Ian. 153 00:09:19,167 --> 00:09:22,477 You'll be stuck in Gorton with him, Mo, for the rest of your life. 154 00:09:22,527 --> 00:09:24,995 Oh, no, he won't. Redevelopment. 155 00:09:26,047 --> 00:09:29,403 The powers that be are going to raze Gorton to the ground, son. 156 00:09:29,447 --> 00:09:31,677 - But that's not for ages, is it? - No. 157 00:09:31,727 --> 00:09:34,321 Gran's just heard she's got to go next month. 158 00:09:34,367 --> 00:09:37,120 Which obviously means Neddie and I, also. 159 00:09:38,207 --> 00:09:39,799 Where to? 160 00:09:39,847 --> 00:09:40,996 Hattersley. 161 00:09:41,047 --> 00:09:43,163 The big estate they're building in the Peak District? 162 00:09:43,207 --> 00:09:45,004 There's lovely countryside all round. 163 00:09:45,047 --> 00:09:47,038 They can't just knock Gorton down. 164 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:48,566 Deary me. 165 00:09:49,567 --> 00:09:52,035 Is the boy getting emotional about his home? 166 00:09:52,087 --> 00:09:54,476 Yeah, well, wouldn't you, about where you're from? 167 00:09:55,527 --> 00:09:57,722 You know nothing about where I'm from, son. 168 00:09:57,767 --> 00:10:00,918 So, tell us. What's it like, Scotland? 169 00:10:00,967 --> 00:10:02,958 Like this or what? 170 00:10:03,007 --> 00:10:04,804 Some places, aye. 171 00:10:04,847 --> 00:10:07,077 Others are a wee bit more urban. 172 00:10:07,127 --> 00:10:09,402 There's not a loch or a bank... 173 00:10:10,407 --> 00:10:12,398 ..or a bonny brae in sight, 174 00:10:12,447 --> 00:10:14,438 but, in those places, 175 00:10:14,487 --> 00:10:20,756 a man may split another man's head open for simply looking at him in the wrong way. 176 00:10:20,807 --> 00:10:23,196 So, which part are you from, then, eh? 177 00:10:23,247 --> 00:10:24,805 I have an acquaintance with both. 178 00:10:24,847 --> 00:10:28,078 Why can't you just give a straight answer to a straight question? 179 00:10:28,127 --> 00:10:30,322 There's a wee thing called "privacy". 180 00:10:31,687 --> 00:10:33,678 I'll thank you to respect mine. 181 00:10:42,607 --> 00:10:44,199 Need a piss. 182 00:10:44,247 --> 00:10:46,044 Yeah, me, too. 183 00:10:49,567 --> 00:10:51,558 Stick the radio on, Mo. 184 00:11:04,287 --> 00:11:06,357 I'm glad I'm seeing more of you again. 185 00:11:06,407 --> 00:11:09,240 I hardly saw you at all when you and Ian first got together. 186 00:11:09,287 --> 00:11:14,600 Eh, we are sisters, Moby, and nothing will ever get in the way of that. 187 00:11:15,607 --> 00:11:17,598 Would that be that Mrs Reade, eh? 188 00:11:18,647 --> 00:11:20,956 The lady whose daughter disappeared? 189 00:11:21,007 --> 00:11:22,599 Yeah, Pauline. 190 00:11:24,127 --> 00:11:26,118 Almost two years now. 191 00:11:26,167 --> 00:11:27,964 That's her bedroom. 192 00:11:28,007 --> 00:11:30,805 I often see her mam up there at night. 193 00:11:30,847 --> 00:11:32,917 You must have known that lassie well. 194 00:11:32,967 --> 00:11:34,446 Yeah. 195 00:11:34,487 --> 00:11:36,478 So did Maureen and Myra. 196 00:11:37,487 --> 00:11:40,479 The police said she'd met some lad and run off with him. 197 00:11:41,487 --> 00:11:44,240 What? You did nae believe that, eh? 198 00:11:44,287 --> 00:11:46,278 She weren't that type of girl. 199 00:11:47,287 --> 00:11:48,879 Yeah, right. 200 00:11:48,927 --> 00:11:50,918 They're all that type of girl. 201 00:11:52,127 --> 00:11:53,446 Eh! Come here. 202 00:11:53,487 --> 00:11:54,476 Whoa. 203 00:11:54,527 --> 00:11:56,119 Giddy-up! 204 00:11:57,807 --> 00:11:59,798 Get in there! 205 00:12:11,607 --> 00:12:13,882 Where are we, Maureen? Are we on Mars? 206 00:12:13,927 --> 00:12:15,645 I think it's all right. 207 00:12:17,447 --> 00:12:19,438 Careful, Maureen! Don't bump her. 208 00:12:21,207 --> 00:12:24,404 - So, what do you think, then? - Better than staying in Gorton. 209 00:12:25,407 --> 00:12:26,999 Excuse the mess. 210 00:12:27,047 --> 00:12:29,845 We've still not finished unpacking properly yet. 211 00:12:29,887 --> 00:12:32,720 Oh, it's nice, Myra. It's smashing. 212 00:12:32,767 --> 00:12:35,122 Yeah, we're thrilled with it. 213 00:12:35,167 --> 00:12:39,160 Still lots to do, mind. Lampshades and rugs and accessories to buy. 214 00:12:39,207 --> 00:12:41,323 - Well, I'll help you. - That'd be great. 215 00:12:41,367 --> 00:12:43,676 - We can go down Ashton market. - Where's Ian? 216 00:12:43,727 --> 00:12:45,718 Angela is desperate for clothes. 217 00:12:45,767 --> 00:12:47,758 I haven't even said hello to her yet. 218 00:12:47,807 --> 00:12:50,002 Hello! Look at you! 219 00:12:50,047 --> 00:12:53,039 - She's getting bigger by the day. - She's a bonny thing. 220 00:12:54,047 --> 00:12:56,038 Hello, Angela. 221 00:12:56,087 --> 00:12:57,805 Eh? Hello. 222 00:12:57,847 --> 00:13:00,077 Oh, she's gorgeous. Aren't you? 223 00:13:04,847 --> 00:13:07,315 Hey, Bob. 224 00:13:08,487 --> 00:13:11,285 - Shut the door. Shut the door! - What's up? 225 00:13:12,607 --> 00:13:15,804 Who said yous could come up here, you bloody moron? 226 00:13:15,847 --> 00:13:17,599 - Eh? - All right. Sorry. 227 00:13:17,647 --> 00:13:20,639 Jesus! I only came to say hello and give you this. 228 00:13:20,687 --> 00:13:22,678 A moving-in present. 229 00:13:26,247 --> 00:13:28,238 Well, apology accepted. 230 00:13:30,447 --> 00:13:32,756 Now, please, get out. 231 00:14:32,207 --> 00:14:34,198 - Mrs Kilbride? - Yes. 232 00:14:34,247 --> 00:14:37,637 Detective Chief Inspector Mounsey. Ashton Police. 233 00:14:37,687 --> 00:14:39,678 It's about your John. 234 00:14:39,727 --> 00:14:41,285 Yes? 235 00:14:41,327 --> 00:14:43,318 What about him? 236 00:14:43,367 --> 00:14:45,164 I've no news, I'm afraid, love. 237 00:14:45,207 --> 00:14:49,200 I've just taken over command here. I wanted to familiarise myself with the case. 238 00:14:49,247 --> 00:14:52,284 We thought you'd given up. We haven't heard from you in ages. 239 00:14:52,327 --> 00:14:54,477 - You'd better come in. - Thank you very much. 240 00:14:54,527 --> 00:14:56,961 - Hey, that's... - Boys, go in the other room, please. 241 00:14:57,967 --> 00:14:59,764 - Go on. - I don't want to. 242 00:14:59,807 --> 00:15:01,604 Go on. 243 00:15:02,807 --> 00:15:04,798 Danny, do as you're told. 244 00:15:06,447 --> 00:15:07,926 Thank you. 245 00:15:09,567 --> 00:15:13,719 I'm sorry about this, Mrs Kilbride, but I need you to go over the events 246 00:15:13,767 --> 00:15:16,565 of the day John disappeared, again, please. 247 00:15:18,847 --> 00:15:21,122 He'd gone to the pictures, with a pal. 248 00:15:22,127 --> 00:15:24,516 Afterwards, they went down the market. 249 00:15:24,567 --> 00:15:26,159 John often did. 250 00:15:26,207 --> 00:15:29,802 You know, to earn a few bob, carrying stuff for folk. 251 00:15:29,847 --> 00:15:31,883 Clearing up. 252 00:15:31,927 --> 00:15:34,316 Eventually, John's pal went home. 253 00:15:34,367 --> 00:15:36,437 This would be about what time? 254 00:15:36,487 --> 00:15:38,239 Half five. 255 00:15:38,287 --> 00:15:40,278 It was dark. 256 00:15:40,327 --> 00:15:42,318 Fog coming down. 257 00:15:42,367 --> 00:15:44,562 John was stood by the bins. 258 00:15:44,607 --> 00:15:47,599 That's the last time anyone remembers seeing him. 259 00:15:47,647 --> 00:15:50,923 It's not as if I hadn't drummed it into all of them. 260 00:15:50,967 --> 00:15:54,482 If a strange man ever offers you sweets and says, "Come with me", 261 00:15:54,527 --> 00:15:56,722 you don't, you run away home. 262 00:15:56,767 --> 00:15:58,564 You run away home. 263 00:16:02,287 --> 00:16:04,243 What's going on? 264 00:16:04,287 --> 00:16:05,925 Who are you? 265 00:16:05,967 --> 00:16:08,162 - He's a policeman, Pat. - DCI Mounsey. 266 00:16:08,207 --> 00:16:11,119 What do you mean by coming round here, upsetting her? 267 00:16:11,167 --> 00:16:13,681 That wasn't my intention. 268 00:16:13,727 --> 00:16:16,195 - That's all you lot have done. - Pat, don't start. 269 00:16:16,247 --> 00:16:18,477 All that fuss for a few weeks. 270 00:16:18,527 --> 00:16:20,995 Searching the town, searching this house. 271 00:16:22,007 --> 00:16:24,157 Accusing me of doing away with him. 272 00:16:24,207 --> 00:16:25,799 And then nothing. 273 00:16:25,847 --> 00:16:29,203 You think he's dead, so there's no point looking, don't you? 274 00:16:29,247 --> 00:16:32,159 I'm aware that this must be very distressing for you. 275 00:16:32,207 --> 00:16:35,199 We don't want your sympathy. 276 00:16:37,127 --> 00:16:39,402 We just want our lad back. 277 00:16:40,247 --> 00:16:42,761 What do you think happened to John Kilbride? 278 00:16:42,807 --> 00:16:44,923 DCI Downs turned the town upside down. 279 00:16:44,967 --> 00:16:48,482 He searched every garage, shed, river, pond, canal. 280 00:16:48,527 --> 00:16:52,122 I know. I know. I'm asking what you think happened to him. 281 00:16:52,167 --> 00:16:55,398 He was last seen at Ashton market. You spend a lot of time there. 282 00:16:55,447 --> 00:16:58,359 Chasing people who steal handbags and wallets, sir. 283 00:16:58,407 --> 00:16:59,999 Not children. 284 00:17:00,047 --> 00:17:02,038 So, you think John was abducted? 285 00:17:02,087 --> 00:17:05,602 He was a happy lad, by all accounts. I can't see him running away. 286 00:17:05,647 --> 00:17:08,639 You discount the theory the father was involved? 287 00:17:08,687 --> 00:17:11,565 Well, I know fathers are always the first suspects. 288 00:17:11,607 --> 00:17:13,245 - Yes? - But I've met him. 289 00:17:13,287 --> 00:17:15,278 I can't see it. Can you? 290 00:17:15,327 --> 00:17:17,318 No, I can't. 291 00:17:17,367 --> 00:17:20,643 You and I are going to give this case a boot up the backside. 292 00:17:20,687 --> 00:17:23,440 Christ knows when we're going to find the time, but we will. 293 00:17:24,167 --> 00:17:28,206 John Kilbride went missing on the 23rd November last year. 294 00:17:28,247 --> 00:17:29,760 Danny? 295 00:17:29,807 --> 00:17:33,243 Now that is the day after President Kennedy was assassinated. 296 00:17:33,287 --> 00:17:35,881 Everybody remembers where they were that day. 297 00:17:35,927 --> 00:17:37,997 All we want people to do is think back. 298 00:17:38,047 --> 00:17:40,038 Did you go to Ashton the next day? 299 00:17:40,087 --> 00:17:42,806 And, if you did, did you come to this market? 300 00:17:42,847 --> 00:17:45,315 Did you see this boy? 301 00:17:45,367 --> 00:17:50,122 Or did you see anyone watching children 302 00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:52,727 or in any other way acting suspiciously? 303 00:17:52,767 --> 00:17:57,158 And if you did, please contact Ashton Police. 304 00:17:57,207 --> 00:17:59,198 Does Danny look a lot like John? 305 00:17:59,247 --> 00:18:02,080 The thing is... I mean, Danny looks frightened now, 306 00:18:02,127 --> 00:18:05,324 but our John, you never saw him without a smile on his face. 307 00:18:05,367 --> 00:18:07,358 Danny, over here, mate. 308 00:18:07,407 --> 00:18:09,398 Good lad, Danny. 309 00:18:09,447 --> 00:18:11,438 Another one, Danny. One more time. 310 00:18:11,487 --> 00:18:14,843 - Do you miss your brother, Danny? - What do you think? 311 00:18:14,887 --> 00:18:17,447 Thank you, gentlemen of the press. Thank you. 312 00:18:17,487 --> 00:18:20,206 It's OK. You did good. Thank you very much. 313 00:18:20,247 --> 00:18:21,805 Thanks. Cheers. 314 00:18:21,847 --> 00:18:23,644 He's done very well. 315 00:18:23,687 --> 00:18:25,996 Mrs Kilbride, thank you very much indeed. 316 00:18:26,047 --> 00:18:28,038 - Thank you, Mr Mounsey. - Not at all. 317 00:18:28,087 --> 00:18:29,805 - Well done, lad. - Come on. 318 00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:31,121 I'm proud of you. 319 00:18:31,167 --> 00:18:32,964 Got to be worth a try. 320 00:18:33,007 --> 00:18:35,077 I'm not sure DCS Prescott will agree. 321 00:18:35,127 --> 00:18:36,924 He's in Preston. 322 00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:47,206 You didn't seriously think you could pull this off without me finding out? 323 00:18:47,247 --> 00:18:49,238 It's a year, Joe. 324 00:18:49,287 --> 00:18:52,279 We gave it substantial publicity at the time. 325 00:18:52,327 --> 00:18:55,319 The chances of anybody remembering anything new now... 326 00:18:55,367 --> 00:18:58,279 - I felt we owed it to the family. - You're giving them false hope. 327 00:18:58,327 --> 00:19:01,717 What am I supposed to do, then? Tell them we're dropping it? 328 00:19:03,687 --> 00:19:05,086 No. 329 00:19:05,127 --> 00:19:06,924 Do what you can. 330 00:19:06,967 --> 00:19:09,356 But do it in your own time. 331 00:19:09,407 --> 00:19:12,444 If it's a lost cause, I can't keep throwing money at it. 332 00:19:12,487 --> 00:19:13,966 Sir. 333 00:19:18,687 --> 00:19:20,279 Thank you, sir. 334 00:19:33,887 --> 00:19:35,366 Dad! 335 00:19:36,367 --> 00:19:38,722 You walk halfway across pissing Manchester, 336 00:19:38,767 --> 00:19:40,519 wait hours to see some git of a foreman, 337 00:19:40,567 --> 00:19:43,445 who says, "I don't know who told you there's jobs going here." 338 00:19:43,487 --> 00:19:46,126 I told him it was you, you pillock! 339 00:19:47,167 --> 00:19:50,716 - What's up with you? - It's Angela. 340 00:19:50,767 --> 00:19:52,359 What about her? 341 00:19:52,407 --> 00:19:54,079 She was taken poorly. 342 00:19:55,087 --> 00:19:58,284 - Maureen took her to hospital. - Why? What's wrong with her? 343 00:20:00,007 --> 00:20:01,998 Well, is it serious or what? 344 00:20:02,047 --> 00:20:06,199 The poor little thing, she wasn't breathing properly. 345 00:20:06,247 --> 00:20:07,965 They tried things. 346 00:20:09,007 --> 00:20:11,885 They tried to save her, but they couldn't. 347 00:20:11,927 --> 00:20:13,121 No. 348 00:20:13,167 --> 00:20:14,964 No, you've got this wrong. 349 00:20:15,007 --> 00:20:16,998 You get everything wrong! 350 00:20:17,047 --> 00:20:19,959 - Which hospital is she in? - Ancoats. It's true, Dave. 351 00:20:20,007 --> 00:20:21,599 I was there! 352 00:20:21,647 --> 00:20:23,239 - I was there. - No. 353 00:20:23,287 --> 00:20:25,039 Get off me! 354 00:20:39,727 --> 00:20:41,922 She seemed all right when I put her down. 355 00:20:42,927 --> 00:20:44,519 A bit quiet. 356 00:20:44,567 --> 00:20:47,286 I know she'd had that bad chest last week, but... 357 00:20:47,327 --> 00:20:51,115 That's not what caused it. Her windpipe hadn't developed properly. 358 00:20:51,167 --> 00:20:53,158 I thought I was a good mother. 359 00:20:53,207 --> 00:20:55,198 I thought I was doing things right. 360 00:20:55,247 --> 00:20:58,603 You were. Get it in your head, it wasn't anyone's fault. 361 00:20:58,647 --> 00:21:00,638 Bloody hell, Dave. Lay off her. 362 00:21:00,687 --> 00:21:02,678 You can see the state she's in. 363 00:21:03,687 --> 00:21:05,803 Can I make you another cup of tea, love? 364 00:21:05,847 --> 00:21:07,121 No. 365 00:21:08,127 --> 00:21:10,561 I think maybe we should take a wee drive out. 366 00:21:12,247 --> 00:21:13,805 Clear our heads. 367 00:21:14,887 --> 00:21:16,479 Come on, Dave. 368 00:21:18,047 --> 00:21:19,605 Is that new? 369 00:21:19,647 --> 00:21:21,842 Traveller. Converts to a two-seater. 370 00:21:21,887 --> 00:21:25,721 You never know when you might need the extra baggage capacity. 371 00:22:02,007 --> 00:22:03,998 Anyone fancy a stroll? 372 00:22:08,007 --> 00:22:09,599 Dave? 373 00:22:11,287 --> 00:22:13,005 If you want. 374 00:22:15,007 --> 00:22:16,599 Maureen? 375 00:22:16,647 --> 00:22:18,444 I'm in heels. 376 00:22:19,647 --> 00:22:21,638 We'll stop in the car. 377 00:22:38,887 --> 00:22:40,878 I'm so glad you came to me. 378 00:22:48,167 --> 00:22:50,158 Who else would I go to? 379 00:22:53,487 --> 00:22:55,478 How's Mam taking it? 380 00:22:58,167 --> 00:23:00,158 She's in pieces. 381 00:23:01,527 --> 00:23:04,519 I sat by Angela in the hospital for ages. 382 00:23:05,607 --> 00:23:07,598 You know, when she was gone, but... 383 00:23:09,607 --> 00:23:11,598 You still wait for something. 384 00:23:14,287 --> 00:23:16,278 A whimper or... 385 00:23:17,487 --> 00:23:19,205 A breath. 386 00:23:21,207 --> 00:23:23,004 Anything. 387 00:23:27,487 --> 00:23:29,762 It's the silence that gets you, isn't it? 388 00:23:36,767 --> 00:23:39,156 I didn't know you had ever seen anyone dead. 389 00:23:42,487 --> 00:23:44,478 My friend Michael. 390 00:23:46,487 --> 00:23:48,284 Oh, God, yeah. 391 00:23:49,287 --> 00:23:51,278 That drowned in Gorton Rezzer? 392 00:23:53,487 --> 00:23:55,478 I remember how upset you were. 393 00:23:57,287 --> 00:24:01,724 I'll never forget them pulling him out, laying him on the bank. 394 00:24:04,087 --> 00:24:06,078 I kept staring at him. 395 00:24:07,087 --> 00:24:09,282 Willing him to come awake again, but... 396 00:24:11,807 --> 00:24:13,798 But they don't, do they? 397 00:24:44,287 --> 00:24:45,766 Here. 398 00:24:49,687 --> 00:24:51,279 Why here? 399 00:24:52,727 --> 00:24:54,319 That's why. 400 00:24:56,287 --> 00:24:58,278 I live for this place. 401 00:25:00,487 --> 00:25:02,079 It owns my soul. 402 00:25:20,487 --> 00:25:23,206 Another little flower for God's garden. 403 00:25:24,207 --> 00:25:25,799 That's lovely. 404 00:25:26,807 --> 00:25:28,525 Isn't it, Dave? 405 00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:30,046 Yeah. 406 00:25:32,047 --> 00:25:34,038 Can I...? 407 00:25:34,087 --> 00:25:35,679 Yeah. 408 00:25:46,287 --> 00:25:48,278 Oh, God, Maureen. 409 00:25:48,327 --> 00:25:49,919 I am so sorry. 410 00:25:53,567 --> 00:25:55,046 Shit. 411 00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:56,679 Look at me. 412 00:25:57,687 --> 00:25:59,678 Please don't tell Ian, will you? 413 00:26:01,887 --> 00:26:03,878 All right, Gary, sobered up? 414 00:26:03,927 --> 00:26:06,395 - Just about, sir, yeah. - Very good, lad. 415 00:26:11,767 --> 00:26:13,246 Come in. 416 00:26:14,047 --> 00:26:15,639 How was your Christmas, sir? 417 00:26:15,687 --> 00:26:18,884 Noisy. My lads are getting old enough to have a decent scrap now. 418 00:26:18,927 --> 00:26:20,918 Anything kicked off over Christmas? 419 00:26:20,967 --> 00:26:25,563 A couple of break-ins, drunk and dis-orderlies and this through from Manchester. 420 00:26:25,607 --> 00:26:28,405 A 10-year-old lass, Lesley Ann Downey, gone missing. 421 00:26:28,447 --> 00:26:31,120 I phoned them, so I could get a description. 422 00:26:31,167 --> 00:26:35,604 She's from Ancoats. Went to a fair and didn't come home. That's all they'd tell me. 423 00:26:35,647 --> 00:26:37,638 Not the most communicative force. 424 00:26:37,687 --> 00:26:41,236 I've been on to them about John Kilbride. Didn't want to know. 425 00:26:41,287 --> 00:26:44,518 When I asked if they'd any kiddies missing on their patch, 426 00:26:44,567 --> 00:26:46,876 they took it as a personal bloody insult. 427 00:26:56,807 --> 00:26:58,525 DI Engels? 428 00:26:58,567 --> 00:27:00,558 - That's me. - DCI Mounsey. Ashton. 429 00:27:00,607 --> 00:27:02,404 - Got a minute? - Just about. 430 00:27:02,447 --> 00:27:05,166 Lesley Ann Downey. Are you making any progress? 431 00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:06,799 Haven't found her. 432 00:27:06,847 --> 00:27:09,919 We've had a lad missing for over a year now, John Kilbride. 433 00:27:09,967 --> 00:27:11,559 Never heard of him. 434 00:27:11,607 --> 00:27:13,802 - There might be a connection. - I doubt it. 435 00:27:13,847 --> 00:27:15,439 - Why? - It was the stepfather. 436 00:27:15,487 --> 00:27:16,966 Come on. 437 00:27:17,007 --> 00:27:20,477 Why aren't you listening? I told you. We were in the pub all night! 438 00:27:20,527 --> 00:27:22,518 Covering up for him - all bollocks. 439 00:27:22,567 --> 00:27:25,240 - So he's admitted killing her? - Give us another half hour. 440 00:27:25,287 --> 00:27:27,755 Then all we need's the body and we'll charge him. 441 00:27:27,807 --> 00:27:30,685 I should forget about the connection if I were you. 442 00:27:48,087 --> 00:27:50,078 There's no shops. It's a shithole! 443 00:27:50,127 --> 00:27:52,800 Got to be better than that poky house in Gorton. 444 00:27:52,847 --> 00:27:55,202 Tell him that. He's sulked ever since we got here. 445 00:27:55,247 --> 00:27:57,238 - Shut your face, you! - Eh! 446 00:27:58,087 --> 00:28:00,157 Don't you talk to my sister like that. 447 00:28:00,207 --> 00:28:02,596 I'll speak to her how I bloody well like! 448 00:28:02,647 --> 00:28:05,400 You had to move. Wiles Street will be rubble in a few months. 449 00:28:05,447 --> 00:28:08,086 Besides, it's got memories Moby needs to put behind her. 450 00:28:08,127 --> 00:28:10,197 What, and you think I don't know that? 451 00:28:32,287 --> 00:28:34,278 If I just knew... 452 00:28:34,327 --> 00:28:39,481 that Angela hadn't completely gone, you know, that her spirit is somewhere safe. 453 00:28:40,807 --> 00:28:43,002 I hope she's in heaven too, Moby. 454 00:28:43,047 --> 00:28:45,402 But you don't believe it, do you? 455 00:28:47,487 --> 00:28:51,082 You would have done once. You were more religious than me, you. 456 00:28:52,327 --> 00:28:56,605 I don't believe in all that sin and redemption and forgiveness mumbo jumbo 457 00:28:56,647 --> 00:28:59,161 Father Theodore used to spout at St Francis. 458 00:29:34,967 --> 00:29:36,559 That new? 459 00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:40,684 Japanese. Cost me a month of my shitey wage. 460 00:29:41,487 --> 00:29:43,682 Has to be an easier way of getting money. 461 00:29:43,727 --> 00:29:45,319 Rob a bank. 462 00:29:46,447 --> 00:29:48,438 You've just read my mind, son. 463 00:29:48,487 --> 00:29:51,524 - Fancy helping me? - A bit out of my league. 464 00:29:51,567 --> 00:29:52,363 Why? 465 00:29:52,407 --> 00:29:55,046 You've stolen before, haven't you? I mean... 466 00:29:55,087 --> 00:29:57,078 You was in court for it. 467 00:29:57,127 --> 00:29:59,687 Yeah, that was just ciggies from a corner shop. 468 00:29:59,727 --> 00:30:01,604 So, you've no moral qualms? 469 00:30:01,647 --> 00:30:03,160 No. 470 00:30:04,167 --> 00:30:06,476 And you're out of a job. Skint. 471 00:30:06,527 --> 00:30:08,916 - Maureen's just been taken on... - You're skint. 472 00:30:10,847 --> 00:30:12,838 You're serious, aren't you? 473 00:30:12,887 --> 00:30:15,879 We've already access to the necessary firearms. 474 00:30:15,927 --> 00:30:17,599 - Firearms? - Aye. 475 00:30:17,647 --> 00:30:20,115 Myra's joined Cheadle Gun Club. 476 00:30:20,167 --> 00:30:21,885 Yeah. Maureen said. 477 00:30:21,927 --> 00:30:24,521 So? Interested? 478 00:30:27,327 --> 00:30:28,919 Yeah, I am. 479 00:30:47,567 --> 00:30:49,523 They never found his body. 480 00:30:51,847 --> 00:30:53,917 Whose body? 481 00:30:58,087 --> 00:31:00,920 Major Glenn Miller, that's who. 482 00:31:00,967 --> 00:31:03,800 One moment, you're flying through the air... 483 00:31:04,887 --> 00:31:07,162 ..suddenly the engine coughs, 484 00:31:07,207 --> 00:31:08,799 dies. 485 00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:13,879 The next you're... 486 00:31:16,287 --> 00:31:18,403 ..hurtling towards oblivion. 487 00:31:24,407 --> 00:31:26,204 I'm for bed, Mo. 488 00:31:27,567 --> 00:31:29,558 You look done in, too. 489 00:31:29,607 --> 00:31:31,598 Why don't you stay tonight? 490 00:31:31,647 --> 00:31:33,638 The boys can sleep on the sofa. 491 00:31:33,687 --> 00:31:35,962 - We can sleep upstairs. - Yeah. All right. 492 00:31:40,607 --> 00:31:42,598 - Night-night, boys. - Night. 493 00:31:42,647 --> 00:31:44,638 Chuck us that pillow, Mo. 494 00:31:47,247 --> 00:31:48,726 Thanks. 495 00:31:48,767 --> 00:31:50,564 There you go. 496 00:31:54,407 --> 00:31:57,001 - That poor girl's family. - What? 497 00:31:57,047 --> 00:31:58,844 Lesley Ann Downey. 498 00:31:58,887 --> 00:32:01,242 Even offering a reward's done no good. 499 00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:05,200 Yeah, well, that child should never have been allowed out at that time. 500 00:32:05,247 --> 00:32:07,715 That's a bit harsh, blaming the parents. 501 00:32:07,767 --> 00:32:09,325 Come on, you. Get down. 502 00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:11,358 I doubt they'll ever see her again. 503 00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:13,557 Give us a hand. 504 00:32:15,127 --> 00:32:16,879 How do I know you're not queer? 505 00:32:16,927 --> 00:32:20,203 Cos I can think of better places of getting my kicks 506 00:32:20,247 --> 00:32:22,886 than up another man's arse. 507 00:32:30,207 --> 00:32:31,799 Oh! 508 00:32:36,607 --> 00:32:38,325 This takes me back. 509 00:32:39,327 --> 00:32:42,603 You were always slipping in beside me when you were little. 510 00:32:43,607 --> 00:32:45,677 When you'd had one of your bad dreams, 511 00:32:45,727 --> 00:32:48,002 I used to put my arm round you, like this, 512 00:32:48,047 --> 00:32:50,515 and tell you it'd be all right in the morning. 513 00:32:52,007 --> 00:32:53,599 I remember. 514 00:32:55,887 --> 00:32:58,606 You still think about her all the time, don't you? 515 00:32:59,607 --> 00:33:01,199 Angela? 516 00:33:02,207 --> 00:33:03,686 Yeah. 517 00:33:05,607 --> 00:33:07,598 It'll ease with time, Moby. 518 00:33:11,607 --> 00:33:13,598 I'm worried about Dave. 519 00:33:15,207 --> 00:33:17,323 He hardly talks to me since we lost her. 520 00:33:19,327 --> 00:33:21,318 Just give him a bit of space. 521 00:33:21,367 --> 00:33:23,358 Ian's looking after him. 522 00:33:23,407 --> 00:33:24,999 You reckon? 523 00:33:26,607 --> 00:33:28,598 He'll be all right. 524 00:33:28,647 --> 00:33:30,239 You both will. 525 00:33:32,447 --> 00:33:34,278 Promise? 526 00:33:36,167 --> 00:33:37,441 I promise. 527 00:33:37,487 --> 00:33:39,079 'Night, Moby. 528 00:33:42,247 --> 00:33:44,317 Like a little hot-water bottle, you! 529 00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:49,478 An off-licence on Audenshaw Road. 530 00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:52,325 Yeah, well, it's the third in a week, Derek. 531 00:33:52,367 --> 00:33:53,959 I want an arrest. 532 00:33:54,007 --> 00:33:57,477 I've got Prescott mithering me about this quarter's figures. 533 00:33:59,487 --> 00:34:01,478 - Still not found Lesley Ann Downey? - No. 534 00:34:01,527 --> 00:34:05,725 You'd think if the stepfather coughed to killing her, he'd have mentioned where the body is. 535 00:34:05,767 --> 00:34:07,564 I don't think he has killed her. 536 00:34:07,607 --> 00:34:09,359 Why? 537 00:34:09,407 --> 00:34:11,967 I've spoken to a contact in Manchester CID. 538 00:34:12,007 --> 00:34:15,204 He says he hasn't confessed and he's still denying it. 539 00:34:15,247 --> 00:34:16,282 Oh? 540 00:34:16,327 --> 00:34:19,637 And Manchester have had another missing child. 541 00:34:19,687 --> 00:34:21,882 A lad called Keith Bennett. 542 00:34:21,927 --> 00:34:25,283 Left his home in Longsight to visit his Grandma, June last year, 543 00:34:25,327 --> 00:34:26,919 and never got there. 544 00:34:30,607 --> 00:34:32,598 - All right, love. - See you later. 545 00:34:32,647 --> 00:34:34,239 Cheerio. 546 00:34:37,447 --> 00:34:40,564 Mrs Johnson? Detective Chief Inspector Mounsey. Ashton Police. 547 00:34:40,607 --> 00:34:42,199 It's about your son Keith. 548 00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:45,239 If you take my Jimmy in one more time, I'll bloody top myself. 549 00:34:45,287 --> 00:34:47,278 I'll kill my children, then myself. 550 00:34:47,327 --> 00:34:49,318 Whoa! I've not come to take anybody in. 551 00:34:49,367 --> 00:34:50,959 Six times you've had him in. 552 00:34:51,007 --> 00:34:53,521 Jimmy thought the world of Keith. He wouldn't harm him. 553 00:34:53,567 --> 00:34:55,239 I believe you. 554 00:34:55,287 --> 00:34:56,879 I do. 555 00:34:57,727 --> 00:35:00,525 And I've got nothing to do with Manchester Police. 556 00:35:00,567 --> 00:35:03,286 All right? Can I come in? 557 00:35:05,327 --> 00:35:08,524 I was out at bingo. I'd sent Keith to his Grandma's. 558 00:35:09,567 --> 00:35:11,558 Of course, he never got there. 559 00:35:11,607 --> 00:35:13,598 Jimmy was alone here, weren't you? 560 00:35:13,647 --> 00:35:15,638 - And no way to prove that? - No. 561 00:35:17,287 --> 00:35:18,879 I mean, look at him. 562 00:35:18,927 --> 00:35:21,202 He's been off work ages, with that chest. 563 00:35:21,247 --> 00:35:24,557 Most days, he's hardly got the strength to climb the stairs. 564 00:35:24,607 --> 00:35:26,598 Does he look like a murderer? 565 00:35:30,207 --> 00:35:31,799 I, erm... 566 00:35:31,847 --> 00:35:36,079 I haven't given up hope, you know, that Keith's still alive. 567 00:35:38,607 --> 00:35:40,598 What bothers me, though... 568 00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:43,798 ..he's not got these. 569 00:35:45,007 --> 00:35:48,317 He'd bust them the day before. I was going to get them fixed. 570 00:35:56,727 --> 00:35:59,958 I just don't know how he'll be coping without them. 571 00:36:01,047 --> 00:36:02,844 These disappearances. 572 00:36:02,887 --> 00:36:04,878 They really are close together. 573 00:36:05,887 --> 00:36:07,878 Lesley Ann Downey. Ancoats. 574 00:36:07,927 --> 00:36:09,918 Keith Bennett. Longsight. 575 00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:11,923 John Kilbride. Ashton. 576 00:36:11,967 --> 00:36:13,764 It's basically a triangle. 577 00:36:13,807 --> 00:36:17,516 Logic says that the bloke doing it lives in the middle of the triangle. 578 00:36:18,887 --> 00:36:20,957 Gorton. 579 00:36:21,007 --> 00:36:24,124 - A girl went missing in Gorton. - I remember that case. 580 00:36:24,167 --> 00:36:26,158 - Pauline Reade. - July '63. 581 00:36:26,207 --> 00:36:29,165 - Set off to a dance and... - Whoa. Whoa. She was older. 582 00:36:29,207 --> 00:36:31,880 She was 16. They thought she'd gone off with a boyfriend. 583 00:36:31,927 --> 00:36:35,476 Her parents swore that was nonsense. She didn't have a boyfriend. 584 00:36:36,567 --> 00:36:39,957 - Shouldn't we at least look at it? - Yes. Got the mother's address? 585 00:36:41,047 --> 00:36:45,279 I don't know why, but I think this is where it happened. 586 00:36:46,527 --> 00:36:49,325 I think whoever it was pulled up behind her in a car. 587 00:36:49,367 --> 00:36:51,278 And just bundled her into it? 588 00:36:52,087 --> 00:36:54,078 No, I think he offered her a lift. 589 00:36:54,127 --> 00:36:56,641 She wouldn't have accepted a lift off a stranger? 590 00:36:56,687 --> 00:36:58,405 I don't think so. No. 591 00:36:59,847 --> 00:37:01,838 I'm sure it was someone she knew. 592 00:37:04,967 --> 00:37:07,037 I don't think I've helped you at all. 593 00:37:07,087 --> 00:37:09,078 Yes, you have. 594 00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:11,561 I'm going to go and walk home now. 595 00:37:11,607 --> 00:37:13,404 - Are you sure? - Yes. 596 00:37:13,447 --> 00:37:16,166 If we get any news, love, we'll be right in touch. 597 00:37:17,647 --> 00:37:19,444 - Well? - You were right. 598 00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:21,478 Whoever abducted Pauline 599 00:37:21,527 --> 00:37:25,440 could well have been behind the disappearance of John and Keith and Lesley 600 00:37:25,487 --> 00:37:28,957 and you're right that that person could have been from Gorton. 601 00:37:29,007 --> 00:37:32,124 We should ask Manchester to start house-to-house here. 602 00:37:32,167 --> 00:37:36,080 A waste of time, because, in the two years since Pauline was abducted, 603 00:37:36,127 --> 00:37:38,197 they've knocked down most of Gorton. 604 00:37:38,247 --> 00:37:40,966 People have been rehoused all over the shop. 605 00:37:41,007 --> 00:37:43,521 She might well have known the person who took her, 606 00:37:43,567 --> 00:37:46,798 but the chances of him still living round here are next to none. 607 00:37:51,487 --> 00:37:54,684 I don't know what you see in this place when it's like this. 608 00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,598 We love it in any weather, don't we? 609 00:37:58,647 --> 00:38:00,638 Show the laddie the toy, Hessy. 610 00:38:05,687 --> 00:38:08,918 - What have you brought that for? - Dave said he wanted a go. 611 00:38:08,967 --> 00:38:12,164 - You're not going to let him fire it? - It's only a bit of fun. 612 00:38:12,207 --> 00:38:15,040 - Ian'll make sure he comes to no harm. - He'd bloody better. 613 00:38:16,327 --> 00:38:18,318 Come on. 614 00:38:18,367 --> 00:38:20,358 - Just you be careful. - Don't worry. 615 00:38:22,447 --> 00:38:24,438 Oh, God! This takes me back. 616 00:38:24,487 --> 00:38:26,762 Oh, me, too. It was never off the jukebox. 617 00:38:26,807 --> 00:38:28,286 Come on. 618 00:38:28,327 --> 00:38:29,919 Don't be daft! 619 00:38:30,647 --> 00:38:32,638 Come on. 620 00:38:34,127 --> 00:38:35,446 Hey! 621 00:38:35,487 --> 00:38:37,682 - What's that? - What's what? 622 00:38:37,727 --> 00:38:39,922 You're smiling! 623 00:38:39,967 --> 00:38:41,559 See that? 624 00:38:43,287 --> 00:38:44,879 Shoot it. 625 00:38:55,007 --> 00:38:58,124 This bank job, we need to advance matters. 626 00:38:58,167 --> 00:39:01,557 - Is Myra in on this? - Who else is going to drive the getaway car? 627 00:39:01,607 --> 00:39:04,326 Maureen hasn't a clue and if she ever found out... 628 00:39:04,367 --> 00:39:06,562 You're no' losing your nerve, are you? 629 00:39:06,607 --> 00:39:08,086 No. 630 00:39:08,127 --> 00:39:10,118 You're happy about the guns? 631 00:39:10,167 --> 00:39:13,239 Just because we'd have them doesn't mean we'd use them. 632 00:39:16,367 --> 00:39:17,595 Look! 633 00:39:17,647 --> 00:39:20,480 You're leaving the bank with the money. Yeah? 634 00:39:20,527 --> 00:39:23,121 Some stupid clerk decides to have a go. 635 00:39:23,167 --> 00:39:25,158 Cannae shake him loose. 636 00:39:25,207 --> 00:39:27,198 The police are on their way. 637 00:39:27,247 --> 00:39:31,035 Only chance of you getting out of there with the money is to shoot him. 638 00:39:31,087 --> 00:39:32,725 What do you do? 639 00:39:32,767 --> 00:39:34,246 Eh? 640 00:39:39,767 --> 00:39:41,359 Clearly nothing. 641 00:39:44,607 --> 00:39:46,086 Piss off. 642 00:39:46,127 --> 00:39:49,597 Piss off, back to the slums with the other morons, where you belong. 643 00:39:49,647 --> 00:39:51,638 Don't call me a moron. 644 00:39:51,687 --> 00:39:53,678 You know nothing about anything. 645 00:39:53,727 --> 00:39:55,718 I may not know the things you know, 646 00:39:55,767 --> 00:39:58,998 the books or the long words, but that doesn't make me a moron. 647 00:40:00,607 --> 00:40:02,404 So, it is there, then? 648 00:40:02,447 --> 00:40:04,005 What is? 649 00:40:05,087 --> 00:40:07,078 The fire. 650 00:40:07,127 --> 00:40:09,436 Myra had it once, but she's losing it. 651 00:40:10,447 --> 00:40:13,439 She does what I ask, all too easily, but you, oh... 652 00:40:14,527 --> 00:40:16,518 I can see you doing anything. 653 00:40:16,567 --> 00:40:18,558 You just need educating. 654 00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,558 You see, we all die. 655 00:40:23,607 --> 00:40:26,405 It's just some people die sooner than others. 656 00:40:27,607 --> 00:40:29,598 That's nature. 657 00:40:29,647 --> 00:40:32,036 That's the only force that really matters. 658 00:40:32,087 --> 00:40:35,602 Now, you forget about God, religion, all that shite. 659 00:40:38,487 --> 00:40:40,717 That was nature that killed your baby. 660 00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:47,761 And if nature decides to give more power to some than others... 661 00:40:56,447 --> 00:40:58,005 ..so be it. 662 00:41:04,407 --> 00:41:09,117 So this bank job, I've identified a possible target. 663 00:41:09,167 --> 00:41:13,126 Williams And Glynn's Bank on Hyde Road. 664 00:41:15,687 --> 00:41:17,120 I want you to take a look. 665 00:41:19,327 --> 00:41:21,557 I'd value your opinion. 666 00:41:30,127 --> 00:41:32,482 "He moves behind her and hovers there. 667 00:41:32,527 --> 00:41:36,759 He would greatly like to mount as a victor, but dares not. 668 00:41:36,807 --> 00:41:40,686 Instead, he begins to beat her anew. 669 00:41:40,727 --> 00:41:43,161 He no longer knows who he is or where. 670 00:41:43,207 --> 00:41:45,118 His delirium has reached such a pitch." 671 00:41:47,087 --> 00:41:48,600 What do you think? 672 00:41:48,647 --> 00:41:50,922 It may get you going. It doesn't do a lot for me. 673 00:41:50,967 --> 00:41:54,243 - Ian gave it to me. - What for? 674 00:41:54,287 --> 00:41:58,166 He says he wants to open my mind to new ideas. 675 00:41:58,207 --> 00:42:01,085 - Good luck with him. - What's up? 676 00:42:01,127 --> 00:42:03,083 I just don't like it, Dave. 677 00:42:03,127 --> 00:42:06,278 I don't see what pleasure a man can get from hitting a woman. 678 00:42:06,327 --> 00:42:09,000 But if that's the kind of thing Ian wants to interest you in, 679 00:42:09,047 --> 00:42:11,083 just don't talk to me about it, all right? 680 00:42:11,127 --> 00:42:14,483 It was you that said I should get to know him better! 681 00:42:27,727 --> 00:42:29,638 What's going on? 682 00:42:29,687 --> 00:42:33,202 It's Pat Kilbride. He's been arrested for being drunk and disorderly. 683 00:42:33,247 --> 00:42:35,044 Alan, action on that, please. 684 00:42:35,087 --> 00:42:37,555 He's just assaulted PC Nash. 685 00:42:37,607 --> 00:42:39,484 What happened? 686 00:42:39,527 --> 00:42:42,087 Usual. Some moron will have called him a child-killer. 687 00:42:42,127 --> 00:42:46,723 He'll have turned on them, then got a kicking, then drunk himself into oblivion to forget it. 688 00:42:46,767 --> 00:42:49,201 - Open the door. - Are you sure, sir? 689 00:42:49,247 --> 00:42:50,999 Open it! 690 00:42:58,327 --> 00:43:01,046 Mr Mounsey. Thank you. 691 00:43:01,087 --> 00:43:02,725 Listen to me. 692 00:43:02,767 --> 00:43:06,237 You don't thank me for anything until I've found your son. 693 00:43:07,527 --> 00:43:09,483 But you'll not find him. 694 00:43:09,527 --> 00:43:11,722 We both know that. 695 00:43:13,007 --> 00:43:15,362 Forget it, Mr Mounsey. 696 00:43:15,407 --> 00:43:17,443 And thanks for trying. 697 00:43:24,527 --> 00:43:26,245 Cup of tea in here, Andy. 698 00:43:26,287 --> 00:43:27,879 - Three sugars. - Sir! 699 00:43:34,847 --> 00:43:36,485 Bob! 700 00:43:36,527 --> 00:43:38,483 Any tea? I'm famished. 701 00:43:38,527 --> 00:43:40,836 Get your own. I've only just got in. 702 00:43:40,887 --> 00:43:44,436 You finish work at two. Where've you been? 703 00:43:47,407 --> 00:43:48,999 Just tell me. 704 00:43:49,047 --> 00:43:50,958 Don't bloody maul me! 705 00:43:51,007 --> 00:43:53,123 Well, answer the question, then. 706 00:43:53,167 --> 00:43:55,078 Christ! What's got into you? 707 00:43:55,127 --> 00:43:57,766 You bloody got into me, that's what! 708 00:43:57,807 --> 00:43:59,365 What do you mean? 709 00:43:59,407 --> 00:44:01,363 I've been to the doctor's. 710 00:44:01,407 --> 00:44:03,363 I'm pregnant. 711 00:44:03,407 --> 00:44:06,365 Oh, Jesus. 712 00:44:06,407 --> 00:44:08,284 I knew. 713 00:44:08,327 --> 00:44:10,443 I knew you'd take it like that. 714 00:44:10,487 --> 00:44:13,047 I've already lost one baby. If that ever happened again... 715 00:44:13,087 --> 00:44:15,157 What about if it happened to me again, eh? 716 00:44:15,207 --> 00:44:17,675 It's taken two of us, you know, to make it! 717 00:44:17,727 --> 00:44:20,195 You don't understand! I'm not ready for this yet. 718 00:44:20,247 --> 00:44:21,885 Well, you can make that choice. 719 00:44:21,927 --> 00:44:25,556 You can bugger off, you can do what you bloody well like. I can't! 720 00:44:25,607 --> 00:44:27,404 It's here! It's mine! 721 00:44:27,447 --> 00:44:29,756 - It's inside me now! - Hang on! 722 00:44:29,807 --> 00:44:31,399 Maureen! 723 00:44:31,447 --> 00:44:33,278 Piss off! 724 00:44:43,207 --> 00:44:45,482 - He treats me like I don't exist. - I told you, get out. 725 00:44:45,527 --> 00:44:47,006 It's that simple, is it, Mam? 726 00:44:47,047 --> 00:44:49,607 - Well, you've not left him. - What are you talking about? 727 00:44:49,647 --> 00:44:51,603 The excuse for a man in the front room. 728 00:44:51,647 --> 00:44:53,478 - Is Mam in? - They're in there. 729 00:44:53,527 --> 00:44:55,961 Shut the door behind you. 730 00:44:59,687 --> 00:45:01,598 Here. 731 00:45:01,647 --> 00:45:03,285 Ta. 732 00:45:03,327 --> 00:45:05,283 What's up with you? 733 00:45:06,967 --> 00:45:08,798 Maureen? 734 00:45:12,527 --> 00:45:14,245 I'm pregnant. 735 00:45:17,007 --> 00:45:19,567 Well, that's wonderful, in't it? 736 00:45:19,607 --> 00:45:21,837 No. Dave doesn't want it. 737 00:45:21,887 --> 00:45:23,366 Eh? 738 00:45:23,407 --> 00:45:25,796 How can I stay with him if he doesn't want it? 739 00:45:25,847 --> 00:45:28,202 Well, you're not thinking of leaving him? 740 00:45:28,247 --> 00:45:29,646 I don't know, Mam! 741 00:45:29,687 --> 00:45:32,679 - This is all I need. - What's the matter? 742 00:45:32,727 --> 00:45:34,718 Nothing! 743 00:45:37,207 --> 00:45:38,845 It's Ian. 744 00:45:38,887 --> 00:45:40,878 What about Ian? 745 00:45:40,927 --> 00:45:42,997 Myra? 746 00:45:44,527 --> 00:45:46,358 He's just been acting funny lately. 747 00:45:46,407 --> 00:45:48,238 Distant. 748 00:45:49,687 --> 00:45:52,076 There's nothing I don't do for that man, nothing. 749 00:45:52,127 --> 00:45:54,163 In bed, out of it. 750 00:45:55,247 --> 00:45:58,444 But sometimes, lately, he treats me like I'm no more than a skivvy! 751 00:45:58,487 --> 00:46:02,526 And it doesn't bloody help your Dave's round our house all the time. 752 00:46:02,567 --> 00:46:05,161 Don't go blaming Dave! You said it was good, them palling up! 753 00:46:05,207 --> 00:46:07,323 - It's gone too far! - Come on, now, stop this! 754 00:46:07,367 --> 00:46:10,803 None of this would have happened if she hadn't let Dave knock her up! 755 00:46:10,847 --> 00:46:12,758 - What? - She should've got rid of that baby. 756 00:46:12,807 --> 00:46:14,718 And she should get rid of this one! 757 00:46:14,767 --> 00:46:17,964 Myra, ughh! That's horrible! 758 00:46:19,047 --> 00:46:20,719 Sorry. 759 00:46:20,767 --> 00:46:22,678 I shouldn't have said that. 760 00:46:24,567 --> 00:46:26,444 You never would have done once. 761 00:46:28,887 --> 00:46:30,684 What has happened to you? 762 00:46:31,767 --> 00:46:34,645 I said I'm sorry! 763 00:46:40,327 --> 00:46:42,716 What are you looking at? 764 00:46:44,087 --> 00:46:45,839 This is best. 765 00:46:45,887 --> 00:46:48,560 No. No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. 766 00:46:48,607 --> 00:46:51,485 I've looked at that bank. 767 00:46:51,527 --> 00:46:53,245 You're right, they're wide open. 768 00:46:53,287 --> 00:46:55,482 They only have two staff on Saturdays. 769 00:46:55,527 --> 00:46:57,597 Interesting. 770 00:46:57,647 --> 00:47:01,037 You've been doing other homework, I see. 771 00:47:01,087 --> 00:47:03,476 Thought if I copied the bits you'd underlined down, 772 00:47:03,527 --> 00:47:05,165 I'd understand 'em better. 773 00:47:06,887 --> 00:47:09,640 Murder is a supreme pleasure. 774 00:47:09,687 --> 00:47:11,678 Do you understand that? 775 00:47:11,727 --> 00:47:13,877 How could I? I've never killed anyone. 776 00:47:13,927 --> 00:47:16,043 I have. 777 00:47:16,087 --> 00:47:17,998 Oh, yeah? 778 00:47:18,047 --> 00:47:20,038 Three or four. 779 00:47:20,087 --> 00:47:22,442 And I haven't finished yet. 780 00:47:24,367 --> 00:47:27,120 Teenagers - they're ideal. 781 00:47:29,687 --> 00:47:32,406 Any younger, there's too much fuss. 782 00:47:36,607 --> 00:47:38,563 What? 783 00:47:38,607 --> 00:47:40,404 You don't believe me? 784 00:47:43,567 --> 00:47:45,319 You've stood on the graves. 785 00:47:48,367 --> 00:47:50,198 Such shit you talk. 786 00:47:51,767 --> 00:47:55,965 You think I'm talking shit about using a gun for the bank job? 787 00:47:56,007 --> 00:47:58,680 I never said that. So you are willing to use one? 788 00:47:58,727 --> 00:48:00,877 If we use blanks, yeah. 789 00:48:02,207 --> 00:48:06,405 Well, a gun with blanks is just an ornament. 790 00:48:07,767 --> 00:48:10,122 How can I get this across to you, eh? 791 00:48:10,887 --> 00:48:13,196 Half-measures are dangerous. 792 00:48:14,287 --> 00:48:17,324 Yous have to be willing to go the whole way. 793 00:48:18,967 --> 00:48:21,003 Now, look down the barrel. 794 00:48:21,047 --> 00:48:24,084 I said look down the fucking barrel! 795 00:48:36,887 --> 00:48:39,276 See? It's all about odds. 796 00:48:52,167 --> 00:48:53,646 Get those wrapped up. 797 00:48:53,687 --> 00:48:55,996 Put them in the suitcases. 798 00:48:56,047 --> 00:49:01,804 All suspicious materials must be removed from this house. 799 00:49:03,087 --> 00:49:04,884 Now. 800 00:49:10,327 --> 00:49:12,477 Where's Maureen? 801 00:49:12,527 --> 00:49:15,246 - She didn't come home last night. - I'm not surprised. 802 00:49:15,287 --> 00:49:17,847 Right state you've got her into. 803 00:49:17,887 --> 00:49:20,355 - She's thinking of leaving you. - She wouldn't leave me. 804 00:49:20,407 --> 00:49:21,760 How do you know? 805 00:49:22,807 --> 00:49:24,798 What do you know about women? 806 00:49:24,847 --> 00:49:27,645 What do you know about bloody anything, Dave Smith? 807 00:49:38,087 --> 00:49:39,998 Women. 808 00:49:40,047 --> 00:49:42,686 They have to feel you need them. 809 00:49:46,487 --> 00:49:49,365 But you must never show them that you do. 810 00:49:56,727 --> 00:49:58,604 Where are you taking them? 811 00:49:58,647 --> 00:50:00,319 Left luggage. 812 00:50:01,647 --> 00:50:03,763 Bloody hell. What else have you put in them? 813 00:50:03,807 --> 00:50:06,275 Mind your own. 814 00:50:06,327 --> 00:50:08,557 - So when will it be? The job? - We'll be in touch. 815 00:50:26,887 --> 00:50:30,675 - Where are you going? - You can come for tea, if you want. 816 00:50:30,727 --> 00:50:32,399 Oh, yeah! 817 00:50:56,127 --> 00:50:57,924 What do I do? 818 00:50:57,967 --> 00:51:00,401 Where do I go? 819 00:51:01,447 --> 00:51:03,642 I don't want you to go anywhere. 820 00:51:07,127 --> 00:51:08,799 I want this baby. 821 00:51:10,607 --> 00:51:12,438 I'm just scared. 822 00:51:12,487 --> 00:51:14,603 So am I. 823 00:51:19,687 --> 00:51:21,439 It's all right. 824 00:51:22,767 --> 00:51:25,076 You said that before...about Angela. 825 00:51:25,127 --> 00:51:26,958 That can't happen again. 826 00:51:27,007 --> 00:51:29,077 Please God, Dave, don't let it! 827 00:51:29,127 --> 00:51:30,879 It won't, don't worry. 828 00:51:30,927 --> 00:51:32,883 It'll be all right. 829 00:51:35,607 --> 00:51:37,598 Come on, sit down, I'll put the kettle on. 830 00:51:37,647 --> 00:51:39,478 All right? 831 00:51:41,327 --> 00:51:42,919 Yeah. 832 00:51:57,247 --> 00:51:58,680 What's this? 833 00:52:00,087 --> 00:52:03,875 I don't know. It came this morning. I've not really looked at it. 834 00:52:03,927 --> 00:52:07,602 - They're going to evict us? - They won't evict us! 835 00:52:07,647 --> 00:52:10,036 Dave...it's a final demand. 836 00:52:11,247 --> 00:52:15,286 Unless we pay 14 pounds eight shillings rent arrears by Saturday, we're out. 837 00:52:15,327 --> 00:52:17,045 - All right, we'll pay! - How? 838 00:52:17,087 --> 00:52:19,840 - I get a pittance. You're on t'dole. - I'll get a tap off my Dad. 839 00:52:19,887 --> 00:52:23,562 He's in London! And he's not got two beans to rub together anyway! 840 00:52:23,607 --> 00:52:26,041 I need a home, Dave. 841 00:52:26,087 --> 00:52:27,679 Our baby needs a home! 842 00:52:27,727 --> 00:52:30,366 Bloody get off your arse and do something! 843 00:52:33,007 --> 00:52:35,521 I was thinking, if we did the bank job this Saturday... 844 00:52:35,567 --> 00:52:37,398 We're not quite ready. 845 00:52:37,447 --> 00:52:40,519 Well, if I don't raise some cash, Maureen really will leave me! 846 00:52:47,007 --> 00:52:50,397 Well...maybe there is a solution. 847 00:52:50,447 --> 00:52:53,439 - What? - Suppose we were to... 848 00:52:53,487 --> 00:52:56,718 obtain the money from a third party. 849 00:52:56,767 --> 00:52:57,836 How do you mean? 850 00:52:57,887 --> 00:53:01,038 Well, I could go down Canal Street, you know, 851 00:53:01,087 --> 00:53:07,037 pick up a businessman, shall we say, of a certain sexual orientation, 852 00:53:07,087 --> 00:53:10,204 bring him back here, demand money off him. 853 00:53:11,487 --> 00:53:13,364 I think he'd part with it... 854 00:53:13,407 --> 00:53:16,717 rather than having to explain to wifey how he came by a beating. 855 00:53:21,887 --> 00:53:24,196 Yeah, all right, then. When? 856 00:53:25,887 --> 00:53:27,115 Soon. 857 00:53:27,167 --> 00:53:29,920 Now, piss off home and wait till we call for you. 858 00:53:32,247 --> 00:53:33,919 And I mean it. 859 00:53:48,567 --> 00:53:50,876 I'm just knocking off, sir. 860 00:53:53,567 --> 00:53:55,239 Can I buy you a drink? 861 00:54:01,047 --> 00:54:04,198 You know what they're calling him around the station these days? 862 00:54:04,247 --> 00:54:05,441 No. 863 00:54:05,487 --> 00:54:07,239 Mounsey's Lad. 864 00:54:09,527 --> 00:54:12,485 Come on. Let's get kaylied. 865 00:54:22,567 --> 00:54:24,398 Oh, bloody hell. Who's that? 866 00:54:24,447 --> 00:54:26,165 I'll go. 867 00:54:33,727 --> 00:54:35,206 Can I come in? 868 00:54:35,247 --> 00:54:36,999 Yeah. 869 00:54:37,047 --> 00:54:39,163 Myra? 870 00:54:39,207 --> 00:54:41,038 What are you doing here? 871 00:54:41,087 --> 00:54:43,362 I've got a message for Mam. 872 00:54:43,407 --> 00:54:45,363 You're seeing her tomorrow, aren't you? 873 00:54:45,407 --> 00:54:46,886 What message? 874 00:54:46,927 --> 00:54:50,237 Can you tell her I'll come round tomorrow, so she can do my roots? 875 00:54:51,367 --> 00:54:52,925 Is that it? 876 00:54:52,967 --> 00:54:54,923 Is that all you've come round for? 877 00:54:54,967 --> 00:54:57,083 Sorry. Meant to come round earlier. 878 00:54:58,207 --> 00:55:01,358 Erm, listen, Dave, you couldn't walk us back, could you? 879 00:55:01,407 --> 00:55:04,877 I don't fancy walking back in the dark at this hour. 880 00:55:04,927 --> 00:55:07,566 Yeah, I'll get my jeans. 881 00:55:07,607 --> 00:55:10,997 - Aren't you in the car? - I'd already locked it up so I've walked round. 882 00:55:11,047 --> 00:55:13,481 - Why couldn't Ian walk you? - Well, he's busy, isn't he? 883 00:55:13,527 --> 00:55:16,644 - He's in his dark room messing about. - He's always in that dark room. 884 00:55:16,687 --> 00:55:18,917 - All right! - Right, I'm going back to bed. 885 00:55:19,967 --> 00:55:22,720 Eh, don't stop drinking with Ian all night either. 886 00:55:22,767 --> 00:55:25,918 We've got to think of something to do about that letter in the morning. 887 00:55:25,967 --> 00:55:28,401 Don't fret. Something'll turn up. See you. 888 00:55:28,447 --> 00:55:31,325 - See you later. - See you. 889 00:55:33,967 --> 00:55:35,764 Shut the door! 890 00:55:42,927 --> 00:55:45,157 Has he got someone? 891 00:55:45,207 --> 00:55:47,038 Has he got the businessman? 892 00:55:49,447 --> 00:55:51,039 What's he like? 893 00:55:55,567 --> 00:55:58,365 Come to the door when the lights flash. 894 00:56:40,327 --> 00:56:42,238 You've come for those wine bottles, eh? 895 00:56:42,287 --> 00:56:44,005 You what? 896 00:57:54,527 --> 00:57:56,358 Dave? 897 00:57:57,047 --> 00:57:58,639 Dave? 898 00:58:02,047 --> 00:58:03,878 Dave. 899 00:58:05,687 --> 00:58:07,917 I told you not to get drunk. 900 00:58:11,967 --> 00:58:13,685 Are you all right? 901 00:58:16,487 --> 00:58:18,398 What's the matter? 902 00:58:21,927 --> 00:58:24,043 Bloody hell, Dave. What's happened to you? 903 00:58:24,087 --> 00:58:25,964 - Dirty filthy bastard! - Argh! 904 00:58:26,007 --> 00:58:27,838 'Ey, what's happened? 905 00:58:28,847 --> 00:58:30,599 Ian's killed a man. 906 00:58:34,007 --> 00:58:36,965 What do you mean...Ian's killed a man? 907 00:58:37,007 --> 00:58:38,122 With an axe. 908 00:58:40,007 --> 00:58:44,285 He's mental. I've never seen anything like it. 909 00:58:46,007 --> 00:58:48,840 You dirty filthy bastard! 910 00:58:48,887 --> 00:58:51,355 It was like he was somebody else. 911 00:58:59,767 --> 00:59:01,246 Well...erm... 912 00:59:01,287 --> 00:59:05,758 I mean, couldn't you have done something to stop the fight? 913 00:59:05,807 --> 00:59:07,479 It wasn't a fight! It was slaughter! 914 00:59:07,527 --> 00:59:10,121 If I'd tried to stop 'em, they'd have done the same to me! 915 00:59:21,047 --> 00:59:24,119 Now...do you believe me? 916 00:59:26,687 --> 00:59:28,086 Yeah. 917 00:59:28,127 --> 00:59:30,846 - Where's Myra? ls she all right? - Myra's part of it. 918 00:59:30,887 --> 00:59:32,923 Myra? 919 00:59:32,967 --> 00:59:34,605 Yeah. 920 00:59:46,647 --> 00:59:51,675 Now, that...was the messiest yet. 921 00:59:51,727 --> 00:59:53,524 Myra? 922 00:59:53,567 --> 00:59:55,842 - You... - Myra? 923 00:59:55,887 --> 00:59:57,286 Myra? 924 00:59:57,327 --> 01:00:00,922 - What was that noise? - It's nothing, Gran. 925 01:00:00,967 --> 01:00:03,845 I dropped a tape recorder on my foot. Go back to bed. 926 01:00:03,887 --> 01:00:05,559 Night-night. 927 01:00:08,127 --> 01:00:13,247 I just... I can't believe what you're saying about Myra being involved. 928 01:00:13,287 --> 01:00:15,164 She was. I'm telling you. 929 01:00:17,527 --> 01:00:20,803 You should have seen the look in his eyes as that first blow registered. 930 01:00:23,727 --> 01:00:25,683 I just wanted to get out of there. 931 01:00:27,607 --> 01:00:29,757 You...clean that! 932 01:00:35,367 --> 01:00:36,959 It's all logical to them. 933 01:00:37,007 --> 01:00:40,716 Calm... He's been calm since we cleaned the room. 934 01:00:42,247 --> 01:00:43,965 Have a ciggy, drink some tea. 935 01:00:45,487 --> 01:00:47,443 I suppose I'd best be getting off. 936 01:00:47,487 --> 01:00:50,524 I don't want Maureen waking and finding me not there. 937 01:01:07,567 --> 01:01:10,639 How are we going to get him in the car in full view of the neighbours? 938 01:01:16,127 --> 01:01:18,004 What about your pram? 939 01:01:19,567 --> 01:01:22,127 Angela's pram? 940 01:01:22,167 --> 01:01:23,646 Yeah. 941 01:01:24,687 --> 01:01:27,121 Then that's it. Job done. 942 01:01:30,007 --> 01:01:32,885 And when I go, they give me this last look. 943 01:01:33,887 --> 01:01:35,525 Like I've passed a test. 944 01:01:45,607 --> 01:01:47,484 Till tomorrow then, eh? 945 01:02:06,167 --> 01:02:08,522 What are we gonna do? 946 01:02:11,687 --> 01:02:13,757 Well, go to the police. What else? 947 01:02:13,807 --> 01:02:15,718 And tell 'em what? 948 01:02:15,767 --> 01:02:18,042 Dave, we'll have to. 949 01:02:19,367 --> 01:02:21,722 Well, suppose Ian's realised I might do that? 950 01:02:21,767 --> 01:02:23,758 He might be waiting outside for me! 951 01:02:25,127 --> 01:02:29,359 Right, well, um, we'll wait till it's light. 952 01:02:30,727 --> 01:02:32,285 But we've got to do it. 953 01:02:34,527 --> 01:02:36,279 'Ey, it'll be all right. 954 01:02:37,767 --> 01:02:39,405 We'll sort it out. 955 01:02:39,447 --> 01:02:41,403 I don't know, Maureen. 956 01:02:41,447 --> 01:02:43,165 I don't know. 957 01:02:55,727 --> 01:02:56,955 Come on. 958 01:03:13,167 --> 01:03:14,839 'Ey, put them away. 959 01:03:30,847 --> 01:03:32,565 I won't be long. 960 01:03:38,767 --> 01:03:40,325 What's all this about? 961 01:03:40,367 --> 01:03:42,164 Say they've seen somebody killed, sir. 962 01:03:42,207 --> 01:03:44,323 Oh, yeah? 963 01:03:47,367 --> 01:03:50,439 The lad's saying there's been a murder but it's nowt to do with him. 964 01:03:50,487 --> 01:03:52,125 I don't know what to make of this. 965 01:04:02,887 --> 01:04:04,559 He's only an apprentice. 966 01:04:04,607 --> 01:04:07,724 He's no gonna solve your financial problems after all, eh? 967 01:04:14,327 --> 01:04:17,000 Well, we've got to take what you say at face value. 968 01:04:17,047 --> 01:04:19,038 Better take a look. 969 01:04:19,087 --> 01:04:21,760 - We need his clothes, Sergeant. - Righto. 970 01:04:21,807 --> 01:04:24,002 Come on, come with me. 971 01:04:49,367 --> 01:04:52,325 Ashton CID? - DS Jock Carr. 972 01:04:52,367 --> 01:04:54,676 I want to speak to WDC Clayton. 973 01:04:54,727 --> 01:04:57,002 It's me, Jock. 974 01:04:57,047 --> 01:05:00,119 Pat, a lad named Edward Evans was murdered last night. 975 01:05:00,167 --> 01:05:01,282 Come on. 976 01:05:01,327 --> 01:05:03,238 Can you tell Joe Mounsey to get over here? 977 01:05:03,287 --> 01:05:05,403 I'll explain when he gets here. 978 01:05:10,687 --> 01:05:12,678 Come on, son. They're ready for you. 979 01:05:12,727 --> 01:05:14,843 Come on. 980 01:05:18,687 --> 01:05:20,598 Brady's admitted killing the lad. 981 01:05:20,647 --> 01:05:22,478 Thank Christ for that. 982 01:05:22,527 --> 01:05:24,438 He says you helped him. 983 01:05:27,407 --> 01:05:29,523 I watched, that's all. 984 01:05:29,567 --> 01:05:31,285 You got the lad's blood on you? 985 01:05:31,327 --> 01:05:33,045 He killed him right in front of me. 986 01:05:33,087 --> 01:05:36,079 I had to clear up, I had to kneel in it! 987 01:05:36,127 --> 01:05:38,436 What exactly did Myra do? 988 01:05:38,487 --> 01:05:40,523 She called round for me. 989 01:05:40,567 --> 01:05:43,400 - Got me round the house. - After Brady hit him with the axe. 990 01:05:43,447 --> 01:05:46,723 She watched. She helped clear up. 991 01:05:46,767 --> 01:05:48,439 No more than what you said you did. 992 01:05:48,487 --> 01:05:50,478 But she planned it with him. She must have. 993 01:05:50,527 --> 01:05:53,041 Why would they plan a murder and get you to watch? 994 01:05:53,087 --> 01:05:54,725 I don't know! 995 01:05:54,767 --> 01:05:57,042 Well, if you don't, son, why should we? 996 01:05:58,607 --> 01:06:02,361 Well, maybe it was because... 997 01:06:02,407 --> 01:06:04,125 Because what? 998 01:06:05,167 --> 01:06:07,840 Ian and me talked about robbing a bank. 999 01:06:07,887 --> 01:06:12,722 It was just talk, but he said he wanted to use guns. 1000 01:06:12,767 --> 01:06:16,919 He told me he'd killed before, but I didn't believe him. 1001 01:06:16,967 --> 01:06:21,597 Maybe last night was to prove to me that he could kill. 1002 01:06:21,647 --> 01:06:23,877 And for you to do the same? 1003 01:06:23,927 --> 01:06:25,645 I didn't kill that lad! 1004 01:06:25,687 --> 01:06:27,803 We spoke to Myra. She says she wasn't involved. 1005 01:06:27,847 --> 01:06:30,236 She says it was you and Brady. And Brady says the same. 1006 01:06:30,287 --> 01:06:32,005 Why should we believe you, not them? 1007 01:06:32,047 --> 01:06:35,517 I came to you! Why would I do that if I'd murdered someone? 1008 01:06:35,567 --> 01:06:37,364 To save your own neck. 1009 01:06:42,847 --> 01:06:45,964 - Yes, Jock. What is it? - I found this in the suspect's house. 1010 01:06:46,007 --> 01:06:47,679 Mr Ian Brady? 1011 01:06:47,727 --> 01:06:50,002 Anyway, it's just random jottings. 1012 01:06:50,047 --> 01:06:52,925 There's a list of names here, though... actors mostly. 1013 01:06:52,967 --> 01:06:55,606 Except there's one name there that doesn't quite fit. 1014 01:07:02,167 --> 01:07:03,680 John Kilbride. 1015 01:07:03,727 --> 01:07:05,558 Good lad. 1016 01:07:07,647 --> 01:07:11,196 What do you make of this? John Kilbride's name in Brady's notebook? 1017 01:07:11,247 --> 01:07:12,885 Could be a complete coincidence. 1018 01:07:12,927 --> 01:07:14,440 It's a bloody odd one, sir. 1019 01:07:14,487 --> 01:07:17,240 Hardly matters, does it? Brady's admitted killing Evans. 1020 01:07:17,287 --> 01:07:20,438 - He'll get life for that. - It matters to the family of John Kilbride. 1021 01:07:20,487 --> 01:07:22,921 It may matter to the families of other dead children. 1022 01:07:22,967 --> 01:07:25,083 If you want to pursue that, you're welcome to. 1023 01:07:25,127 --> 01:07:26,765 Just don't get under our feet. 1024 01:07:28,447 --> 01:07:31,359 I know Dave hates me, but I never thought he'd go this far. 1025 01:07:31,407 --> 01:07:33,079 Mam. 1026 01:07:33,127 --> 01:07:34,879 What lies has Dave been telling? 1027 01:07:34,927 --> 01:07:39,205 It's bad enough he's got Ian into trouble, but for him to make out Myra's involved... 1028 01:07:39,247 --> 01:07:41,807 - If you've done nothing wrong... - What do you mean "if"? 1029 01:07:41,847 --> 01:07:43,246 That's enough. Come on. 1030 01:07:49,127 --> 01:07:50,685 Are you saying you believe Dave? 1031 01:07:50,727 --> 01:07:54,197 - I don't know what to believe, Mam! - She's your sister! 1032 01:07:54,247 --> 01:07:56,044 Your own flesh and blood. 1033 01:07:57,047 --> 01:08:01,996 If you stick by Dave and not Myra, you're no daughter of mine. 1034 01:09:35,262 --> 01:09:38,857 Brady's admitted killing the lad. We'll not be letting him go anywhere. 1035 01:09:38,902 --> 01:09:40,255 What about Smith? 1036 01:09:40,302 --> 01:09:44,215 The toe rag looks as though he's telling the truth, so we'll release him for now. 1037 01:09:46,702 --> 01:09:48,215 And the girlfriend? 1038 01:09:48,262 --> 01:09:52,734 There's no evidence of direct involvement in the murder, so we'll let her go. 1039 01:10:20,209 --> 01:10:22,200 Edward Evans's parents. 1040 01:10:22,769 --> 01:10:24,760 Been identifying the body. 1041 01:10:31,209 --> 01:10:32,688 Thank you. 1042 01:10:35,969 --> 01:10:37,960 Can you go? 1043 01:10:40,409 --> 01:10:42,400 So they believe you? 1044 01:10:42,449 --> 01:10:43,962 Dunno. 1045 01:10:44,009 --> 01:10:46,807 - They've let Myra go too, thank God. - What? 1046 01:10:46,849 --> 01:10:48,840 So she can't have been involved. 1047 01:10:48,889 --> 01:10:51,642 - Why did you lie to me, Dave? - I didn't lie! 1048 01:10:51,689 --> 01:10:53,680 She's the one that's lying! 1049 01:10:54,889 --> 01:10:57,005 She must have fibbed her way out of it. 1050 01:11:00,369 --> 01:11:02,360 Let's just get out of here. 1051 01:11:11,169 --> 01:11:13,364 We just want to know what's going on. 1052 01:11:13,409 --> 01:11:15,718 I'm fed up of this lot. Now, get out of here! 1053 01:11:19,689 --> 01:11:21,919 We haven't got time to mess around with you. 1054 01:11:21,969 --> 01:11:24,244 Sir. We found the wallet inside the car. 1055 01:11:24,769 --> 01:11:27,841 - This is Brady's car? - No, Hindley's. Brady doesn't drive. 1056 01:11:27,889 --> 01:11:31,848 Found three sheets of paper in here. We got them copied. 1057 01:11:34,969 --> 01:11:37,767 - What is this? - A kind of disposal plan for a body. 1058 01:11:37,809 --> 01:11:40,118 OK. Explain it to me. 1059 01:11:40,169 --> 01:11:42,808 We think hat is hatchet. 1060 01:11:42,849 --> 01:11:45,409 Rec? Reconnaissance? 1061 01:11:45,449 --> 01:11:47,758 Check periodically unmoved. 1062 01:11:48,649 --> 01:11:52,278 - Check what's unmoved? - Body? Bodies? 1063 01:11:53,609 --> 01:11:55,440 Tick WHPB. 1064 01:11:55,489 --> 01:11:58,287 No. God knows. 1065 01:11:58,329 --> 01:12:01,639 - Is this where it happened? - Aye. Hard to believe, isn't it? 1066 01:12:01,689 --> 01:12:03,759 Must have spent ages cleaning up this place. 1067 01:12:03,809 --> 01:12:06,448 - So where was the body found? - Over by the window. 1068 01:12:06,489 --> 01:12:09,208 Foetal position, body wrapped in polythene. 1069 01:12:09,249 --> 01:12:11,319 Bit of a photographer, is he, then, Brady? 1070 01:12:11,369 --> 01:12:13,405 Fond of the moors by the looks of it. 1071 01:12:20,209 --> 01:12:22,769 - Isn't that her? - Aye, that's her. 1072 01:12:22,809 --> 01:12:26,006 Come to see her granny, I expect. Had to boot her out of here, obviously. 1073 01:12:26,049 --> 01:12:29,041 Are you sure you've done the right thing letting her go? 1074 01:12:29,089 --> 01:12:32,206 - That was Benfield's decision. - What do you think, sir? 1075 01:12:32,249 --> 01:12:35,764 I think the plan was to get rid of the body using the car. 1076 01:12:35,809 --> 01:12:38,881 Look. "Car. Remove all movable objects. Clean cover floor 1077 01:12:38,929 --> 01:12:40,965 and seat fresh Poly at night." 1078 01:12:41,009 --> 01:12:42,237 This is her car! 1079 01:12:42,289 --> 01:12:44,166 He doesn't even drive, you said. 1080 01:12:44,209 --> 01:12:46,928 Who else is going to drive the car, for Christ sakes? 1081 01:12:46,969 --> 01:12:49,529 How can she possibly not be involved? 1082 01:12:54,449 --> 01:12:56,326 Stop it! 1083 01:12:57,089 --> 01:12:59,080 'Ey, come here! 1084 01:13:02,169 --> 01:13:04,160 Shut up! 1085 01:13:06,529 --> 01:13:08,485 - Mrs Smith? - Yes. 1086 01:13:08,529 --> 01:13:11,248 DCI Mounsey, Ashton Police. I need to speak to your husband. 1087 01:13:11,289 --> 01:13:13,166 Thank you. 1088 01:13:14,089 --> 01:13:15,966 - Dave Smith? - What? 1089 01:13:16,009 --> 01:13:16,998 Go on, get in there. 1090 01:13:17,049 --> 01:13:21,565 You told DCS Benfield Brady claimed he killed others. 1091 01:13:21,609 --> 01:13:24,567 - Yeah, well, he wasn't listening, was he? - Well, I am! 1092 01:13:24,609 --> 01:13:26,327 Did he say who he killed? 1093 01:13:26,369 --> 01:13:29,122 - Or when or where? - No. 1094 01:13:29,169 --> 01:13:31,364 - And you didn't ask? - Why should I? 1095 01:13:31,409 --> 01:13:34,719 Even when he told you he was going to use guns for this bank job? 1096 01:13:34,769 --> 01:13:37,841 - What bank job? - Dave, what's this? 1097 01:13:37,889 --> 01:13:41,325 - Ian had this stupid idea about robbing a bank. - What? 1098 01:13:41,369 --> 01:13:44,281 - Bloody idiot! - I didn't know if he was serious or not, did I? 1099 01:13:44,329 --> 01:13:47,207 Even when we got rid of stuff from the suitcases, I didn't know. 1100 01:13:47,249 --> 01:13:50,559 - What stuff? - Stuff they thought would be incriminating. 1101 01:13:50,609 --> 01:13:53,282 What exactly was in these suitcases? 1102 01:13:53,329 --> 01:13:55,320 'Ey?! Answer me! 1103 01:13:55,369 --> 01:13:58,327 There was some books of mine. The rest was theirs. 1104 01:13:58,369 --> 01:14:00,837 I helped them put the cases in the car, then they drove off. 1105 01:14:00,889 --> 01:14:02,004 Where? 1106 01:14:02,049 --> 01:14:04,847 - I don't know. - He must have said something. Where? 1107 01:14:06,169 --> 01:14:10,367 Well, they might have said something about left luggage. 1108 01:14:10,409 --> 01:14:13,207 "They"? So Myra was in on this too, yeah? 1109 01:14:13,249 --> 01:14:16,002 Yeah. Ian said she was gonna drive the getaway car. 1110 01:14:16,049 --> 01:14:18,802 Jesus Christ, Dave, what else haven't you told me? 1111 01:14:28,409 --> 01:14:30,764 You're just digging a big hole for yourself. 1112 01:14:30,809 --> 01:14:32,845 You think you're clever, but you're not. 1113 01:14:32,889 --> 01:14:36,120 We've heard Brady's version, and we've heard what Dave says. 1114 01:14:36,169 --> 01:14:39,718 I've already told you. I've got nothing to say. 1115 01:14:39,769 --> 01:14:45,002 My version of events of that evening are exactly the same as Ian's version of events. 1116 01:14:46,089 --> 01:14:49,604 We found a piece of paper in Myra's car with the initials WH on it. 1117 01:14:51,009 --> 01:14:53,648 I think that stands for Woodhead, and that's here. 1118 01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:54,883 Don't know. 1119 01:14:54,929 --> 01:14:58,524 - These are the nearest moors to Hattersley. - They took us to different places. 1120 01:14:58,569 --> 01:15:00,048 So should you and me go for a walk? 1121 01:15:05,409 --> 01:15:08,207 You don't really think there are bodies up here? 1122 01:15:08,249 --> 01:15:10,205 I'm trying not to think anything, love. 1123 01:15:10,249 --> 01:15:12,683 But...ifthere are, I mean... 1124 01:15:13,729 --> 01:15:15,845 ..they can't be anything to do with Myra. 1125 01:15:17,089 --> 01:15:21,799 You said Brady made some remark about you having stood on the grave of one of his victims. 1126 01:15:21,849 --> 01:15:23,840 Ian and Myra drove us up to the moors. 1127 01:15:23,889 --> 01:15:26,881 Me and Ian went for a walk and there was a reservoir below us. 1128 01:15:26,929 --> 01:15:29,443 He wanted me to stand in a particular place. 1129 01:15:29,489 --> 01:15:31,480 Here! 1130 01:15:34,689 --> 01:15:36,680 Do you think this is the spot? 1131 01:15:37,329 --> 01:15:39,843 Is this the spot? 1132 01:15:39,889 --> 01:15:40,958 I don't know. 1133 01:15:43,489 --> 01:15:44,968 Thank you. 1134 01:15:45,729 --> 01:15:49,119 I believe that with David Smith you discussed killing people 1135 01:15:49,169 --> 01:15:53,208 - and burying them on the moors. - It was all part of the fiction, 1136 01:15:53,249 --> 01:15:54,523 to impress him. 1137 01:15:54,569 --> 01:15:57,402 Smith says you said that Evans' murder was the messiest yet. 1138 01:15:57,449 --> 01:16:00,407 Why say that if there were no others? 1139 01:16:00,449 --> 01:16:02,519 That was to do with the situation we were in. 1140 01:16:02,569 --> 01:16:06,448 I've got nothing to say. My version of events of that evening 1141 01:16:06,489 --> 01:16:08,400 is exactly the same as Ian's. 1142 01:16:08,449 --> 01:16:10,644 But it's not your version, is it, it's Ian's! 1143 01:16:10,689 --> 01:16:13,681 You're just using his words. Is it Brady says, Myra does? 1144 01:16:13,729 --> 01:16:16,482 How many more times do I need to tell you? 1145 01:16:16,529 --> 01:16:18,679 There was an accident. 1146 01:16:18,729 --> 01:16:21,960 My version of events is exactly the same as Ian's. 1147 01:16:22,009 --> 01:16:25,240 Tell me about this fiction to impress Smith. 1148 01:16:25,289 --> 01:16:27,678 - Ask Smith. - No, I'm asking you. 1149 01:16:31,689 --> 01:16:34,920 I told you... Ask Smith. 1150 01:16:35,849 --> 01:16:37,282 I've done nothing. 1151 01:16:37,329 --> 01:16:39,843 As far as I know, Ian's done nothing. 1152 01:16:39,889 --> 01:16:42,847 Dave Smith's a bloody little liar. 1153 01:16:42,889 --> 01:16:45,039 Tell us exactly what went on that night! 1154 01:16:45,089 --> 01:16:47,603 There was an accident. That's all I'm saying. 1155 01:16:47,649 --> 01:16:48,877 Shall we call it murder? 1156 01:16:48,929 --> 01:16:51,762 Why did you take that photograph? 1157 01:16:54,569 --> 01:16:56,560 Well, I er... 1158 01:16:57,409 --> 01:17:00,162 ..must have been attracted by the composition. 1159 01:17:00,209 --> 01:17:02,165 Why is Myra looking at the ground? 1160 01:17:02,209 --> 01:17:03,483 You'd have to ask her that. 1161 01:17:03,529 --> 01:17:06,726 I'm asking the photographer. Why is she looking at the ground? 1162 01:17:06,769 --> 01:17:09,727 Was there something special about that piece of ground? 1163 01:17:10,769 --> 01:17:12,680 Is it cos it's a grave? 1164 01:17:16,569 --> 01:17:18,446 Is this you standing on a grave? 1165 01:17:18,489 --> 01:17:21,128 Is this her standing on a grave? 1166 01:17:21,169 --> 01:17:23,080 Is this your personal graveyard? 1167 01:17:23,129 --> 01:17:26,007 - Pictures. - Just pictures? 1168 01:17:26,049 --> 01:17:28,847 And that place, that grave, that was Woodhead, wasn't it? 1169 01:17:28,889 --> 01:17:30,686 In that general area, aye. 1170 01:17:30,729 --> 01:17:32,924 But again, it was a fiction. 1171 01:17:32,969 --> 01:17:37,485 I've got police officers from three forces up there right now 1172 01:17:37,529 --> 01:17:39,520 digging up your fiction. 1173 01:17:40,889 --> 01:17:45,007 Well, that is a monumental exercise in futility, my friend. 1174 01:17:51,689 --> 01:17:55,443 If you keep going, you'll keep yourself warmer. 1175 01:17:56,049 --> 01:17:58,324 Make sure you push the stick really deep. 1176 01:18:00,129 --> 01:18:02,643 Can't you tell us what's happening up here? 1177 01:18:02,689 --> 01:18:06,762 Well, we've got members of the public helping with the search. 1178 01:18:06,809 --> 01:18:08,686 They've come from far and wide. 1179 01:18:08,729 --> 01:18:12,438 If we find anything with the sticks and they smell like human remains... 1180 01:18:12,489 --> 01:18:13,922 Thank you. 1181 01:18:13,969 --> 01:18:16,278 Don't miss anywhere. 1182 01:18:16,329 --> 01:18:17,842 The ground's hard here. 1183 01:18:19,529 --> 01:18:23,966 The search of moorland adjacent to the A628 Woodhead Pass 1184 01:18:24,009 --> 01:18:26,523 has been going on for over two days now. 1185 01:18:26,569 --> 01:18:31,597 But the police have still found no evidence that any bodies have been buried there. 1186 01:18:31,649 --> 01:18:34,925 There's been no official confirmation from the police... 1187 01:18:34,969 --> 01:18:37,483 I'm sorry, Mrs Kilbride. There's still nothing. 1188 01:18:37,529 --> 01:18:39,759 I see. 1189 01:18:39,809 --> 01:18:41,686 Mr Mounsey! Over here! 1190 01:18:41,729 --> 01:18:44,038 ..as to how long this search may continue. 1191 01:18:44,729 --> 01:18:47,448 What have you got, lads? Let's have a look. 1192 01:18:52,129 --> 01:18:54,563 We might have something here, sir. 1193 01:18:55,689 --> 01:18:58,157 No, it's just a dead sheep. 1194 01:18:58,209 --> 01:18:59,642 All right, keep at it, lads. 1195 01:19:09,809 --> 01:19:13,245 I'm going to mention some names to you. 1196 01:19:13,289 --> 01:19:14,438 Names of children. 1197 01:19:14,489 --> 01:19:17,287 I just want you to tell me if you've heard of them. 1198 01:19:21,449 --> 01:19:23,167 Lesley Ann Downey. 1199 01:19:23,209 --> 01:19:24,961 Never heard of her. 1200 01:19:25,009 --> 01:19:26,203 Keith Bennett. 1201 01:19:32,649 --> 01:19:33,638 John Kilbride. 1202 01:19:34,929 --> 01:19:36,328 Never heard of him. 1203 01:19:36,369 --> 01:19:39,725 All right, then. Have you heard of Pauline Reade? 1204 01:19:40,929 --> 01:19:43,489 Is that funny, Myra? 1205 01:19:43,529 --> 01:19:46,441 I knew Pauline Reade. I grew up with her. 1206 01:19:46,489 --> 01:19:48,605 I liked her. 1207 01:19:50,889 --> 01:19:53,483 Lesley Ann Downey. 1208 01:19:56,409 --> 01:19:58,240 Have you heard of Lesley Ann Downey? 1209 01:19:58,289 --> 01:20:00,280 It has been pretty public. 1210 01:20:00,329 --> 01:20:02,763 Papers, television, rewards. 1211 01:20:04,969 --> 01:20:07,642 Nobody at work ever mention Lesley Ann Downey? 1212 01:20:08,729 --> 01:20:10,959 And John Kilbride. You've never heard of him? 1213 01:20:11,009 --> 01:20:13,318 I don't know him. I have never heard of him. 1214 01:20:13,369 --> 01:20:15,087 Have you ever been to Ashton market? 1215 01:20:15,129 --> 01:20:16,881 No, I have never been to Ashton market. 1216 01:20:16,929 --> 01:20:18,567 - Never? - Never. 1217 01:20:18,609 --> 01:20:20,645 Never been to Ashton market. 1218 01:20:20,689 --> 01:20:22,486 Where do you shop, then? 1219 01:20:22,529 --> 01:20:24,167 I shop at Adsega's sometimes. 1220 01:20:24,209 --> 01:20:27,406 I go into the city centre. Where do you shop? 1221 01:20:27,449 --> 01:20:32,569 The John Kilbride I'm talking about went missing from Ashton market 23rd of November 1963. 1222 01:20:32,609 --> 01:20:36,488 And I'm supposed to have murdered him and buried him on the moors? 1223 01:20:36,529 --> 01:20:39,362 I believe so, yes. 1224 01:20:39,409 --> 01:20:43,118 And I suppose I did the same... 1225 01:20:43,169 --> 01:20:45,603 to the other names in this book, yeah? 1226 01:20:45,649 --> 01:20:47,924 Joan Crawford. 1227 01:20:47,969 --> 01:20:49,960 Robert Urquhart. 1228 01:20:50,089 --> 01:20:52,080 Alec Guinness. 1229 01:20:53,209 --> 01:20:56,121 Deary me. I mean... 1230 01:20:56,169 --> 01:20:59,957 Alec will be sorry to hear of the premature end of his acting career. 1231 01:21:05,209 --> 01:21:08,326 Do you have children? Eh? 1232 01:21:09,209 --> 01:21:10,324 Two. 1233 01:21:10,369 --> 01:21:12,439 Hm... 1234 01:21:12,489 --> 01:21:17,199 Well, I can understand why this is... an emotional subject for you. 1235 01:21:37,889 --> 01:21:39,880 We'll not get a cough out of him. 1236 01:21:43,889 --> 01:21:47,404 Come on, lads. I know you're tired but you're doing a grand job. 1237 01:21:49,289 --> 01:21:52,599 You see, the ground she's on here is quite flat and stony. 1238 01:21:52,649 --> 01:21:56,244 I've been all over, I can't find any ground like that round here. 1239 01:21:57,369 --> 01:22:00,361 You think we're looking in the wrong place, don't you? 1240 01:22:00,409 --> 01:22:03,879 I don't know. If there were more background in the photo, 1241 01:22:03,929 --> 01:22:06,397 something to give us a reference point... 1242 01:22:06,449 --> 01:22:09,759 So if WH isn't Woodhead, what else could it stand for? 1243 01:22:09,809 --> 01:22:12,118 Wuthering bloody Heights for all I know. 1244 01:22:12,849 --> 01:22:15,921 Prescott's not going to let this go on for much longer. 1245 01:22:17,089 --> 01:22:19,683 If we don't find the bodies, they'll get away with this. 1246 01:22:19,729 --> 01:22:22,641 Sir. Message from Jock Carr. 1247 01:22:22,689 --> 01:22:25,806 The suitcases that Smith told us about, he's found them. 1248 01:22:35,409 --> 01:22:37,400 Good lad. 1249 01:22:37,449 --> 01:22:39,724 Right, let's have a look, then, shall we? 1250 01:22:47,849 --> 01:22:50,682 Have you got a tape recorder in the station, sir? 1251 01:22:50,729 --> 01:22:54,404 Jock. Go and ask the sergeant, will you? Find a tape recorder. 1252 01:23:13,929 --> 01:23:15,920 Sir... 1253 01:23:17,329 --> 01:23:19,479 Isn't that Lesley Ann Downey? 1254 01:23:21,289 --> 01:23:23,280 Looks like her. 1255 01:23:27,489 --> 01:23:29,764 Oh, fucking hell fire. 1256 01:23:32,809 --> 01:23:34,845 We need to talk to Smith, sir. 1257 01:23:34,889 --> 01:23:36,720 Jock. 1258 01:23:57,889 --> 01:24:00,119 You're right in it now, Smith. 1259 01:24:23,409 --> 01:24:25,400 Come on. 1260 01:24:26,409 --> 01:24:28,923 Hey. You better have some bloody good answers. 1261 01:24:37,489 --> 01:24:39,445 What's this about? 1262 01:24:44,569 --> 01:24:46,560 Do you recognise any of this lot? 1263 01:24:49,209 --> 01:24:51,598 The notebook's mine. I don't know about the rest. 1264 01:24:51,649 --> 01:24:53,605 You lying little bastard! 1265 01:24:53,649 --> 01:24:56,846 What? What am I supposed to have done? 1266 01:24:56,889 --> 01:24:58,720 You know what's on that tape, don't you? 1267 01:24:58,769 --> 01:25:00,885 - You know what comes before that song! - No. 1268 01:25:00,929 --> 01:25:03,238 - Yes, you do! You were there! - I wasn't! 1269 01:25:03,289 --> 01:25:07,168 A little girl, being asked to do unspeakable things for a man by a woman, 1270 01:25:07,209 --> 01:25:09,279 crying for her mam, begging for mercy. 1271 01:25:09,329 --> 01:25:11,240 Only, you didn't show any mercy, did you? 1272 01:25:11,289 --> 01:25:14,008 You helped Hindley and Brady torture and kill her. 1273 01:25:14,049 --> 01:25:15,721 - Like you helped kill Edward Evans! - No! 1274 01:25:15,769 --> 01:25:17,327 So, let's jog your memory. 1275 01:25:17,369 --> 01:25:21,123 Look at that. Who's that? ls that Lesley Ann Downey before you got hold of her? 1276 01:25:21,169 --> 01:25:23,637 Isn't she sweet? Innocent? Isn't she trusting? 1277 01:25:23,689 --> 01:25:26,681 Now look what was done to her in the bedroom of No.16. 1278 01:25:26,729 --> 01:25:28,128 Look at her! 1279 01:25:28,169 --> 01:25:30,046 You were there, weren't you? You were watching! 1280 01:25:30,089 --> 01:25:31,204 No, I wasn't! 1281 01:25:31,249 --> 01:25:33,046 So what do you think of Myra now, then? 1282 01:25:33,089 --> 01:25:36,286 It might not be Myra's voice on the tape. It might be some other woman. 1283 01:25:36,329 --> 01:25:37,444 It's Myra. 1284 01:25:37,489 --> 01:25:41,198 Do you think Dave's told you everything about his relationship with Ian and Myra? 1285 01:25:41,249 --> 01:25:42,364 Yeah. 1286 01:25:42,409 --> 01:25:44,718 He didn't tell you about the armed robbery. 1287 01:25:44,769 --> 01:25:46,680 So what else don't you know? 1288 01:25:46,729 --> 01:25:50,517 - What else could there be to know? - What about his sexual inclinations? 1289 01:25:50,569 --> 01:25:52,480 What's that got to do with anything? 1290 01:25:52,529 --> 01:25:53,882 Brady lent him dirty books. 1291 01:25:53,929 --> 01:25:56,238 Lots of people read books like that. Doesn't mean... 1292 01:25:56,289 --> 01:25:58,598 And lots of people interfere with children. 1293 01:25:58,649 --> 01:26:01,004 And some of them even murder 'em. 1294 01:26:01,809 --> 01:26:04,482 You're not saying Dave's done that? 1295 01:26:04,529 --> 01:26:06,520 I don't know. Do you think he could? 1296 01:26:08,209 --> 01:26:10,803 I'm his wife, for God's sake! 1297 01:26:10,849 --> 01:26:14,239 I live with him! I sleep with him! 1298 01:26:14,289 --> 01:26:15,927 How can you ask me that? 1299 01:26:15,969 --> 01:26:18,199 You live with him. You sleep with him. 1300 01:26:18,249 --> 01:26:22,003 So who else would be in a better position to know the truth? 1301 01:26:22,049 --> 01:26:25,644 I don't know the truth, about Dave, about my sister... 1302 01:26:25,689 --> 01:26:28,601 I don't know the truth about bloody anything any more! 1303 01:26:29,289 --> 01:26:33,043 "Notes taken from books I have enjoyed... 1304 01:26:33,689 --> 01:26:40,288 He said that what she refused him he was going to take by force, 1305 01:26:40,329 --> 01:26:44,288 so let the girl be stripped naked." 1306 01:26:47,449 --> 01:26:51,920 So, the idea of raping young girls gives you a kick, does it? 1307 01:26:51,969 --> 01:26:57,282 No? "Rape is not a crime. It is a state of mind. 1308 01:26:57,329 --> 01:27:02,244 Murder is a hobby and a supreme pleasure." 1309 01:27:02,289 --> 01:27:07,044 - I just copied that to impress him! - No, no. Come on, lad. 1310 01:27:07,089 --> 01:27:09,284 You enjoyed killing Edward Evans, didn't you? 1311 01:27:09,329 --> 01:27:12,162 And Lesley Ann Downey. 1312 01:27:12,209 --> 01:27:14,200 John Kilbride. Pauline Reade. 1313 01:27:15,049 --> 01:27:18,598 - Pauline Reade? You think she's part of this? - I know she is. 1314 01:27:18,649 --> 01:27:21,209 I knew Pauline, I grew up with her! You think I killed her? 1315 01:27:21,249 --> 01:27:23,080 That's exactly what Myra says. 1316 01:27:23,129 --> 01:27:26,644 And she's lying. And Brady's lying. And I think you're lying too. 1317 01:27:26,689 --> 01:27:28,600 I haven't killed anyone! I haven't! 1318 01:27:28,649 --> 01:27:31,959 But you haven't told us everything, have you? 1319 01:27:32,009 --> 01:27:35,240 Have you? Shall we listen to that tape, shall we, 1320 01:27:35,289 --> 01:27:37,007 - to that girl begging for mercy? - No! 1321 01:27:37,049 --> 01:27:40,439 I'll play it to you again and again till you tell me the truth. 1322 01:27:40,489 --> 01:27:42,923 What haven't you told us? 1323 01:27:45,809 --> 01:27:47,800 - Edward Evans. - What about him? 1324 01:27:50,209 --> 01:27:52,962 Maureen and me are in the shit with money. 1325 01:27:53,009 --> 01:27:55,318 The council are threatening to evict us. 1326 01:27:56,369 --> 01:27:58,360 I told Ian. 1327 01:27:58,409 --> 01:28:01,162 He said he'd go down Manchester, find a businessman, 1328 01:28:01,209 --> 01:28:03,769 bring him back and we'd rob him. 1329 01:28:03,809 --> 01:28:06,277 That's why Myra came round for me that night. 1330 01:28:08,169 --> 01:28:12,845 I thought we were just going to frighten the bloke so he'd hand over his wallet. 1331 01:28:12,889 --> 01:28:14,402 But I walked in and... 1332 01:28:14,449 --> 01:28:16,440 there was Ian with the axe. 1333 01:28:17,889 --> 01:28:20,642 - Why didn't you tell us this before? - I knew what you'd think! 1334 01:28:20,689 --> 01:28:23,442 You'd think what I'm trying not to - 1335 01:28:23,489 --> 01:28:27,368 that Evans would still be alive now if me and Ian hadn't made that plan! 1336 01:28:29,129 --> 01:28:31,404 But I promise you, I haven't hurt any children. 1337 01:28:34,249 --> 01:28:36,240 At least tell me you believe that! 1338 01:28:38,649 --> 01:28:40,844 I do actually, lad. 1339 01:28:42,369 --> 01:28:44,360 Good lad. Have another fag. 1340 01:28:51,409 --> 01:28:55,482 There may have been a plan for a robbery, but he's no murderer. 1341 01:28:55,529 --> 01:28:59,204 Can I wait for him? - Go on, then. Get yourself home. 1342 01:28:59,249 --> 01:29:03,367 Sir. 13-year-old girl from Hattersley's come forward with new information. 1343 01:29:03,409 --> 01:29:07,197 She says Brady and Hindley befriended her, took her out for some drives on the moors. 1344 01:29:07,249 --> 01:29:10,082 - Does she know which moors? - Yes, she's very clear. 1345 01:29:10,129 --> 01:29:12,085 Wessenden Head, Saddleworth. 1346 01:29:12,129 --> 01:29:14,199 - WH! - We were in the wrong place. 1347 01:29:14,249 --> 01:29:16,922 Move the troops there tomorrow. I'll call Prescott. 1348 01:29:16,969 --> 01:29:21,042 Oi, hang on! They're not all Lancashire troops. Some are mine, some are Manchester's. 1349 01:29:21,089 --> 01:29:25,321 You're not saying you don't want us to carry on searching, sir? 1350 01:29:25,369 --> 01:29:27,724 No, I'm not saying that. Just be aware. 1351 01:29:27,769 --> 01:29:32,399 I can't fund an operation like this indefinitely, and Manchester won't either. 1352 01:29:32,449 --> 01:29:34,121 Thank you, sir. 1353 01:29:37,769 --> 01:29:39,646 Lads, thank you. 1354 01:29:39,689 --> 01:29:43,204 Come on, lads. Bus isn't going to wait. 1355 01:29:43,249 --> 01:29:46,321 Sir, sir. Don't go without us. I need to splash my boots. 1356 01:29:46,369 --> 01:29:48,929 Thank you, boys. Thank you very much. 1357 01:29:50,329 --> 01:29:53,048 It's that cold and he hasn't brought any gloves! 1358 01:29:53,089 --> 01:29:55,080 Is he going to bring any tomorrow? 1359 01:29:55,129 --> 01:29:57,120 Daft bugger. 1360 01:29:59,209 --> 01:30:01,598 Thank you, boys. Thank you. 1361 01:30:01,649 --> 01:30:03,640 Thank you very much. 1362 01:30:04,689 --> 01:30:06,680 Another good day's work, lads. 1363 01:30:06,729 --> 01:30:08,003 Thank you very much. 1364 01:30:08,049 --> 01:30:10,199 Better luck tomorrow, eh, sir? 1365 01:30:10,249 --> 01:30:13,719 - If there is a tomorrow. - Sir? 1366 01:30:13,769 --> 01:30:16,602 I don't think Prescott's going to let this go on any longer. 1367 01:30:16,649 --> 01:30:18,958 What, you think this really is it? 1368 01:30:19,009 --> 01:30:22,001 - Sir! Sir, up here! - What? 1369 01:30:22,809 --> 01:30:24,959 Something bony sticking out of the ground. 1370 01:30:26,729 --> 01:30:29,527 Yeah, just another dead sheep, lad. 1371 01:30:29,569 --> 01:30:31,127 I don't think so, sir. 1372 01:30:38,409 --> 01:30:41,401 Come on, then. Let's go and see what he's on about. 1373 01:30:57,849 --> 01:31:00,488 ls it true there's a body, Mr Benfield? 1374 01:31:00,529 --> 01:31:03,327 - Mr Talbot! - Mr Talbot, can you give us any details? 1375 01:31:09,089 --> 01:31:11,603 - All right, Joe? - Yeah. 1376 01:31:11,649 --> 01:31:14,607 Manchester's here... now there's glory to be had. 1377 01:31:15,889 --> 01:31:17,607 Do we know whose body it is yet? 1378 01:31:17,649 --> 01:31:20,880 All I know is, it's not John Kilbride. A little girl. 1379 01:31:22,089 --> 01:31:24,603 - Are you ready, Dougie? - When you are, Arthur. 1380 01:32:00,009 --> 01:32:03,479 ls it male or female? - Come on, lads, give us a break. 1381 01:32:04,369 --> 01:32:06,724 - Get back. - Give us some room, please. 1382 01:32:06,769 --> 01:32:09,124 Mr Mounsey, are there any more? Get out of our way! 1383 01:32:09,169 --> 01:32:12,684 Let us through! Get back! 1384 01:32:12,729 --> 01:32:16,324 How many are there, Mr Talbot? Can you give us any detail? 1385 01:32:17,049 --> 01:32:19,847 Is it a boy or a girl? Are there any more? 1386 01:32:19,889 --> 01:32:21,686 We'll make a statement tomorrow. 1387 01:32:30,649 --> 01:32:32,048 One more. 1388 01:32:34,969 --> 01:32:38,006 Good work. Good work, excellent. 1389 01:32:38,049 --> 01:32:40,358 Yeah, the same to you. Thank you very much. 1390 01:32:40,409 --> 01:32:42,400 Sir. 1391 01:32:44,449 --> 01:32:47,680 That was Professor Poulson, Uppermill Mortuary. 1392 01:32:47,729 --> 01:32:51,005 Mother's identified the body. It's Lesley Ann. 1393 01:32:51,049 --> 01:32:53,244 - Congratulations, everyone. - What next? 1394 01:32:53,289 --> 01:32:56,918 Well, we charge Brady and Hindley with the murder of Lesley Ann Downey. 1395 01:32:56,969 --> 01:32:59,244 Then it's doubles on me over at the Queen's. 1396 01:32:59,289 --> 01:33:00,358 What about the others? 1397 01:33:02,769 --> 01:33:07,524 - John Kilbride, Keith Bennett, Pauline Reade? - They're irrelevant now. 1398 01:33:12,969 --> 01:33:14,561 - Sir? - What?! 1399 01:33:17,849 --> 01:33:21,762 I've done another print from the original negative. 1400 01:33:21,809 --> 01:33:24,528 I've brought up a lot more of the background, and look... 1401 01:33:24,569 --> 01:33:27,208 I swear that is Hollin Brown Knoll in the background. 1402 01:33:27,249 --> 01:33:30,719 Right, Mash, are you saying if we walk around those rocks 1403 01:33:30,769 --> 01:33:32,964 till we find the view that matches this one... 1404 01:33:33,009 --> 01:33:35,443 We should find one of the graves. 1405 01:33:35,489 --> 01:33:37,400 Where did you get the negative from, Mike? 1406 01:33:37,449 --> 01:33:39,565 It was in the suitcases. 1407 01:33:41,209 --> 01:33:43,928 But all that stuff got taken away by Manchester. 1408 01:33:43,969 --> 01:33:47,484 I know. I went down there and nicked it off them. 1409 01:33:47,529 --> 01:33:49,520 You bad lad! 1410 01:33:56,969 --> 01:33:59,358 Watch your step, lad. Watch your step. 1411 01:34:21,289 --> 01:34:23,849 Sir! I think it's here! 1412 01:34:33,329 --> 01:34:35,320 - Mash? -Yeah. 1413 01:34:35,849 --> 01:34:37,840 Right, here we go again. 1414 01:34:44,049 --> 01:34:46,040 Urgh! 1415 01:35:40,889 --> 01:35:43,278 - Forensics, please, Pat. - Yes, sir. 1416 01:35:46,089 --> 01:35:48,080 I'll get the camera. 1417 01:36:54,129 --> 01:36:55,881 - Boys, go on. In there. - No! 1418 01:36:55,929 --> 01:36:57,681 Go! Please, do as you're told. 1419 01:36:57,729 --> 01:36:59,287 - Lads, get out. - You too. 1420 01:36:59,329 --> 01:37:00,887 - Mum... - I want to stay. 1421 01:37:00,929 --> 01:37:02,965 - Danny... - I want to stay! 1422 01:37:03,009 --> 01:37:04,681 Let him stay. 1423 01:37:04,729 --> 01:37:06,321 Let him. 1424 01:37:38,489 --> 01:37:40,480 Yes, that's John's. 1425 01:37:44,249 --> 01:37:46,240 I'm so sorry. 1426 01:37:53,129 --> 01:37:54,244 Sorry to disturb. 1427 01:37:54,289 --> 01:37:57,645 Some sad news. Your dog. 1428 01:37:57,689 --> 01:38:00,601 We needed to establish her age 1429 01:38:00,649 --> 01:38:04,847 in order to be sure that the photo of you crouching over John Kilbride's grave 1430 01:38:04,889 --> 01:38:07,767 was taken after his disappearance. 1431 01:38:07,809 --> 01:38:10,118 So we asked the vet to perform a dental X-ray. 1432 01:38:10,169 --> 01:38:13,445 I'm sorry to say she never came round from the anaesthetic. 1433 01:38:14,969 --> 01:38:17,927 You murdering fucking bastards! 1434 01:38:17,969 --> 01:38:23,282 Yes, well, I'm a dog lover myself, so I can appreciate the distress. 1435 01:38:23,329 --> 01:38:25,320 Sorry to interrupt, sir. 1436 01:38:29,849 --> 01:38:33,080 Well, I'm sorry about your dog, but we must press on. 1437 01:38:33,129 --> 01:38:35,927 It was a funny time of the night to be doing house calls. 1438 01:39:05,569 --> 01:39:08,720 - Where's Maureen? - In the bedroom. 1439 01:40:24,649 --> 01:40:27,004 Come on now, Mo. 1440 01:40:30,569 --> 01:40:34,403 You want stringing up an' all, you bitch! 1441 01:40:34,449 --> 01:40:36,804 Hang him! Child molester! 1442 01:40:39,209 --> 01:40:41,086 They'll put you away! 1443 01:40:52,729 --> 01:40:54,720 Stand there. 1444 01:41:00,249 --> 01:41:01,648 Please repeat after me. 1445 01:41:01,689 --> 01:41:04,442 I swear by Almighty God... 1446 01:41:06,529 --> 01:41:08,679 ..that the evidence I shall give... 1447 01:41:10,369 --> 01:41:14,521 ..shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 1448 01:41:23,729 --> 01:41:28,041 You've already admitted that you and your husband were in trouble with the rent. 1449 01:41:28,089 --> 01:41:31,320 - What's that got to do with it? - You were desperate for money. 1450 01:41:31,369 --> 01:41:33,405 Well, yes. 1451 01:41:33,449 --> 01:41:37,283 You were aware your husband had sought Brady's help over the rent. 1452 01:41:37,329 --> 01:41:39,240 I know he'd shown Ian the letter. 1453 01:41:39,289 --> 01:41:41,723 You were not aware of any further conspiracy between them? 1454 01:41:41,769 --> 01:41:43,248 No. 1455 01:41:44,529 --> 01:41:46,838 Are you not in your husband's confidence? 1456 01:41:51,049 --> 01:41:53,324 I believed what he told me. 1457 01:41:53,369 --> 01:41:56,042 But he did not always tell you the truth. 1458 01:41:56,089 --> 01:41:59,479 Nevertheless, you are married and feel you must stand by him. 1459 01:41:59,929 --> 01:42:02,079 - No! - Are you all right, Mrs Smith? 1460 01:42:02,129 --> 01:42:04,484 I'm sorry. 1461 01:42:05,729 --> 01:42:09,961 I'm aware of the advanced state of your pregnancy. 1462 01:42:10,009 --> 01:42:11,886 Do you feel able to carry on? 1463 01:42:16,689 --> 01:42:18,680 I've got to, haven't I? 1464 01:42:18,729 --> 01:42:23,120 You've told the court that your sister was a regular visitor to Ashton market. 1465 01:42:23,769 --> 01:42:24,884 Yes, I have. 1466 01:42:24,929 --> 01:42:26,999 Are you quite sure about that? 1467 01:42:27,049 --> 01:42:28,960 There are many nearer places to shop. 1468 01:42:29,009 --> 01:42:31,204 But she liked to go to Ashton. 1469 01:42:31,249 --> 01:42:36,323 Mrs Smith, you know it's believed John Kilbride was abducted from Ashton market? 1470 01:42:36,369 --> 01:42:38,007 Yes. 1471 01:42:38,049 --> 01:42:41,041 And so to imply Myra regularly went there when she didn't 1472 01:42:41,089 --> 01:42:43,808 might be to dangerously mislead the jury. 1473 01:42:43,849 --> 01:42:45,726 Well, why would I want to do that? 1474 01:42:45,769 --> 01:42:50,047 Because you have sided with your husband against your sister. 1475 01:42:50,089 --> 01:42:53,718 No. All I want to do is tell the truth! 1476 01:42:53,769 --> 01:42:56,841 Did you go shopping frequently with Myra, Mrs Hindley? 1477 01:42:56,889 --> 01:42:57,799 Yes. 1478 01:42:57,849 --> 01:43:00,727 To your knowledge, did she ever go to Ashton market? 1479 01:43:06,289 --> 01:43:07,404 No. 1480 01:43:07,449 --> 01:43:09,087 No. 1481 01:43:09,129 --> 01:43:11,484 Can you think of any reason why she should go there? 1482 01:43:11,529 --> 01:43:12,200 No. 1483 01:43:12,249 --> 01:43:15,047 We have markets closer to home if we need them. 1484 01:43:15,089 --> 01:43:18,047 Thank you, Mrs Hindley. 1485 01:43:24,129 --> 01:43:26,324 - Here come the Smiths. - Maureen! 1486 01:43:26,369 --> 01:43:28,519 Mr Smith! 1487 01:43:28,569 --> 01:43:33,006 This is your notebook? - Yes. 1488 01:43:33,049 --> 01:43:35,961 It contains numerous passages taken from books. 1489 01:43:36,009 --> 01:43:38,000 From books Brady gave me, yes. 1490 01:43:38,049 --> 01:43:41,564 There are passages justifying rape and murder. 1491 01:43:41,609 --> 01:43:43,918 Do you believe rape and murder to be justifiable? 1492 01:43:43,969 --> 01:43:45,322 No. 1493 01:43:45,369 --> 01:43:49,647 There are passages dealing with sexual perversion of various kinds. 1494 01:43:49,689 --> 01:43:50,724 Yes. 1495 01:43:50,769 --> 01:43:54,887 Passages about a girl being flogged and that kind of thing. 1496 01:43:54,929 --> 01:43:58,239 Did you take pleasure in them? 1497 01:43:58,289 --> 01:44:01,122 I was just trying to understand what the author was getting at. 1498 01:44:01,169 --> 01:44:03,364 Ah... 1499 01:44:03,409 --> 01:44:07,527 Did you tell Ian Brady you could make money by selling pornographic photographs? 1500 01:44:07,569 --> 01:44:11,482 - No, I didn't! - On Boxing Day 1964, 1501 01:44:11,529 --> 01:44:14,362 you brought a girl to the house of Brady and Hindley, did you not? 1502 01:44:14,409 --> 01:44:15,080 No! 1503 01:44:15,129 --> 01:44:18,758 - That girl was Lesley Ann Downey. - Where have you got this from? 1504 01:44:18,809 --> 01:44:21,403 And Brady told you the girl you had brought was too young. 1505 01:44:21,449 --> 01:44:22,768 I never took her there! 1506 01:44:22,809 --> 01:44:24,845 You nevertheless stayed downstairs 1507 01:44:24,889 --> 01:44:28,882 while photographs were taken of her upstairs, and later you took her away. 1508 01:44:28,929 --> 01:44:30,328 This is all lies! 1509 01:44:30,369 --> 01:44:32,519 And that was the last Brady and Hindley saw of her. 1510 01:44:32,569 --> 01:44:33,285 No! 1511 01:44:33,329 --> 01:44:36,844 I put it to you that you murdered Lesley Ann Downey. 1512 01:44:36,889 --> 01:44:37,685 No! 1513 01:44:37,729 --> 01:44:40,368 I put it to you that far from merely watching, 1514 01:44:40,409 --> 01:44:44,197 - you helped Brady kill Edward Evans. - I did not! 1515 01:44:44,249 --> 01:44:46,809 The truth is that when you saw violence, 1516 01:44:46,849 --> 01:44:49,727 - you had to join in. - I thought I'd come here as a witness. 1517 01:44:49,769 --> 01:44:52,761 I thought it was them on trial, not me. 1518 01:44:52,809 --> 01:44:54,447 No more questions, my Lord. 1519 01:44:54,489 --> 01:44:57,128 Has your Lordship got any questions? 1520 01:44:57,169 --> 01:44:59,319 No. 1521 01:44:59,369 --> 01:45:01,166 You are released, Mr Smith. 1522 01:45:01,209 --> 01:45:05,646 Court is adjourned until 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. 1523 01:45:05,689 --> 01:45:07,805 All rise. 1524 01:45:08,849 --> 01:45:10,840 Mrs West... 1525 01:45:12,689 --> 01:45:15,522 - It's not true what they're saying about me. - Let's just go. 1526 01:45:15,569 --> 01:45:17,446 I had nothing to do with Lesley Ann. 1527 01:45:17,489 --> 01:45:19,605 - Why should I believe you? - Cos it's the truth. 1528 01:45:19,649 --> 01:45:22,368 - Let's just go! - You're a liar! 1529 01:45:22,409 --> 01:45:25,003 David. Manchester Evening News. 1530 01:45:25,049 --> 01:45:27,643 How well did you know Brady, David? Can you tell us? 1531 01:45:27,689 --> 01:45:30,567 Piss off. Piss off! 1532 01:45:30,609 --> 01:45:33,169 - She's pregnant. - Can you give us anything at all? 1533 01:45:33,209 --> 01:45:35,803 - Here comes the third Moors Murderer! - Shut your face! 1534 01:45:35,849 --> 01:45:38,363 You're the third Moors Murderer! 1535 01:45:38,409 --> 01:45:40,001 They're all from the same family! 1536 01:45:48,769 --> 01:45:51,044 - I think it's this way. - No, it's this way. 1537 01:46:04,849 --> 01:46:06,362 - Where's your husband? - Dave! 1538 01:46:06,409 --> 01:46:07,888 I want to speak to him. 1539 01:46:07,929 --> 01:46:10,807 - You are a liar! You were there! - Where? 1540 01:46:10,849 --> 01:46:12,805 At the torture of my Lesley! 1541 01:46:12,849 --> 01:46:14,077 Get off him! Get off him! 1542 01:46:15,449 --> 01:46:20,045 - You knew what he were doing! - There was nothing to know, for God's sake! 1543 01:46:20,089 --> 01:46:22,523 For God's sake, I'm pregnant! 1544 01:46:22,569 --> 01:46:26,721 If I had your blood running through my veins, I'd slit my wrists! 1545 01:46:29,209 --> 01:46:32,724 They killed me as well when they killed my Lesley! 1546 01:46:32,769 --> 01:46:36,239 - Come on! - You deserve the same, both of you! 1547 01:46:36,289 --> 01:46:38,280 Come on, love. 1548 01:46:54,449 --> 01:46:56,758 Why did you have to talk to 'em? 1549 01:46:56,809 --> 01:47:00,643 To make 'em understand that what Myra and Ian did had nothing to do with me. 1550 01:47:00,689 --> 01:47:04,238 - Why should people believe that? - What? 1551 01:47:04,289 --> 01:47:06,883 Edward Evans wouldn't have died, would he, Dave, 1552 01:47:06,929 --> 01:47:08,567 if you'd not let Ian draw you in. 1553 01:47:08,609 --> 01:47:10,361 I didn't know they'd kill him! 1554 01:47:10,409 --> 01:47:13,719 But he must have seen something in you, mustn't he, eh, 1555 01:47:13,769 --> 01:47:16,522 - to make him think you could become part of it? - Of what? 1556 01:47:16,569 --> 01:47:18,844 - Whatever it was, him and Myra. - Shut up! 1557 01:47:18,889 --> 01:47:22,848 - It's you that's brought this on us, Dave. - No, it's you, you Hindley bitch! 1558 01:47:24,529 --> 01:47:25,723 I'm sorry. 1559 01:47:32,409 --> 01:47:34,445 I'm sorry, Maureen. 1560 01:47:34,489 --> 01:47:37,879 Will it be all right now? Now you've done that? 1561 01:47:39,569 --> 01:47:42,037 Maureen, I'm so sorry! 1562 01:47:43,969 --> 01:47:49,487 Would you tell us what your feelings were for Ian Brady before you moved to Hattersley? 1563 01:47:49,529 --> 01:47:52,123 I loved him. 1564 01:47:52,169 --> 01:47:53,363 I still love him. 1565 01:47:53,409 --> 01:47:58,039 Did you ever get wind of anything odd happening between Ian and David? 1566 01:47:58,089 --> 01:48:00,319 I suppose I sometimes did wonder what was going on. 1567 01:48:00,369 --> 01:48:06,319 You've sat in this court, you've heard of several conspiracies between them. 1568 01:48:06,369 --> 01:48:08,439 To photograph young girls, to rob a bank. 1569 01:48:08,489 --> 01:48:10,559 - I don't believe her. - To lure a homosexual 1570 01:48:10,609 --> 01:48:13,282 to Wardle Brook Avenue with the intention of robbing him, 1571 01:48:13,329 --> 01:48:16,321 a conspiracy which ended in the death of Edward Evans. 1572 01:48:17,489 --> 01:48:20,686 Did you have any idea of any of these plans? 1573 01:48:23,169 --> 01:48:24,761 I had no idea at all. 1574 01:48:24,809 --> 01:48:27,482 Were you in any way involved in the death of John Kilbride? 1575 01:48:27,529 --> 01:48:29,167 I was not. 1576 01:48:29,209 --> 01:48:32,485 Were you in any way involved in the death of Lesley Ann Downey? 1577 01:48:32,529 --> 01:48:34,167 I was not. 1578 01:48:34,209 --> 01:48:38,282 Were you in any way involved in the death of Edward Evans? 1579 01:48:38,329 --> 01:48:40,365 No. 1580 01:48:41,929 --> 01:48:43,248 No more questions, my Lord. 1581 01:48:43,289 --> 01:48:46,440 You may step down, Miss Hindley. 1582 01:48:46,489 --> 01:48:49,879 This court is adjourned. We will reconvene after lunch. 1583 01:48:54,449 --> 01:48:56,007 Verdicts have been reached 1584 01:48:56,049 --> 01:48:59,121 in the Moors murder trial at Chester Assizes. 1585 01:48:59,169 --> 01:49:03,367 Ian Brady and Myra Hindley have been found guilty of murder. 1586 01:49:03,409 --> 01:49:06,003 Ian Brady has been convicted of the murders of 1587 01:49:06,049 --> 01:49:09,724 John Kilbride, Lesley Ann Downey and Edward Evans. 1588 01:49:09,769 --> 01:49:14,684 Myra Hindley has been convicted of the murders of Lesley Ann Downey and Edward Evans. 1589 01:49:14,729 --> 01:49:18,005 She was found not guilty of the murder of John Kilbride, 1590 01:49:18,049 --> 01:49:21,007 but was found guilty of being an accessory. 1591 01:49:21,049 --> 01:49:23,005 The jury retired earlier today 1592 01:49:23,049 --> 01:49:26,803 and took just two hours 23 minutes to reach their verdicts. 1593 01:49:26,849 --> 01:49:29,886 The defendants remained impassive as they were read out 1594 01:49:29,929 --> 01:49:33,444 and equally impassive as the Judge, Justice Fenton Atkinson, 1595 01:49:33,489 --> 01:49:36,401 sentenced the couple. 1596 01:49:36,449 --> 01:49:43,799 Ian Brady, these were three calculated, cruel, cold-blooded murders. 1597 01:49:43,849 --> 01:49:49,128 In your case, I pass the only sentence which the law now allows, 1598 01:49:49,169 --> 01:49:53,640 which is three concurrent sentences of life imprisonment. 1599 01:49:53,689 --> 01:49:56,362 - Hang him! - The bastard! 1600 01:49:56,409 --> 01:49:58,206 - Pervert! - Quiet! 1601 01:49:58,249 --> 01:49:59,568 I hope you die! 1602 01:49:59,609 --> 01:50:03,488 Quiet in court! Quiet in court! 1603 01:50:07,569 --> 01:50:09,048 Put him down. 1604 01:50:10,449 --> 01:50:11,928 Take the cow with you! 1605 01:50:11,969 --> 01:50:16,087 Take 'em both! Kill 'em both together! 1606 01:50:16,129 --> 01:50:18,802 Quiet in court! 1607 01:50:21,009 --> 01:50:23,000 In your case, Hindley, 1608 01:50:23,049 --> 01:50:27,008 you have been found guilty of two equally horrible murders. 1609 01:50:27,049 --> 01:50:30,405 And in the third, as an accessory after the fact. 1610 01:50:30,449 --> 01:50:32,440 On the two murders, 1611 01:50:32,489 --> 01:50:36,164 the sentence is two concurrent sentences of life imprisonment. 1612 01:51:25,009 --> 01:51:27,477 It's been a waste of fucking time. 1613 01:51:27,529 --> 01:51:29,520 If you two hadn't gone to court, 1614 01:51:29,569 --> 01:51:32,845 Brady would have got away with all those murders except Edward Evans. 1615 01:51:32,889 --> 01:51:36,006 He'd have been out in 10 years and Myra would have walked free. 1616 01:51:36,049 --> 01:51:38,643 That's supposed to make us feel better, is it? 1617 01:51:38,689 --> 01:51:40,884 I can see that it's been hard. 1618 01:51:40,929 --> 01:51:44,205 Hard? I'm a child killer. The third Moors Murderer. 1619 01:51:44,249 --> 01:51:45,682 That's what they all believe! 1620 01:51:45,729 --> 01:51:47,845 They won't when they've had time to think about it. 1621 01:51:47,889 --> 01:51:49,117 How do you know? 1622 01:51:49,169 --> 01:51:51,444 He won. Brady won. 1623 01:51:51,489 --> 01:51:53,480 I can't stop thinking about him. 1624 01:51:53,529 --> 01:51:56,521 I mean, what was he doing on the night of Edward Evans? 1625 01:51:56,569 --> 01:51:59,163 - What was he thinking of? - He had a secret, Dave. 1626 01:51:59,209 --> 01:52:01,200 He had a monster of a secret 1627 01:52:01,249 --> 01:52:04,525 and what use was it to him without someone to share it with? 1628 01:52:05,569 --> 01:52:07,685 - But he had Myra to share it with. - Yeah. 1629 01:52:07,729 --> 01:52:10,004 And I believe he was growing tired of her. 1630 01:52:10,049 --> 01:52:13,086 I think she probably resisted it, but in order to keep him, 1631 01:52:13,129 --> 01:52:15,404 she agreed to try and bring Dave into it. 1632 01:52:17,489 --> 01:52:20,128 And in the end, he failed, didn't he? 1633 01:52:29,009 --> 01:52:31,807 You two have got to try and get on with your lives now. 1634 01:52:34,409 --> 01:52:38,448 What about Pauline Reade? Keith Bennett? 1635 01:52:38,489 --> 01:52:41,287 I am not allowed to search for them. 1636 01:52:41,329 --> 01:52:43,889 Only Manchester Police can do that. 1637 01:52:43,929 --> 01:52:47,638 Frankly, between you, me and the gate post, they flatly refuse to do so. 1638 01:52:47,689 --> 01:52:49,680 But I never said that. 1639 01:52:53,809 --> 01:52:55,800 I'd best be going. 1640 01:52:58,449 --> 01:53:00,758 - I'll see you out. - No, you stay there, pet. 1641 01:53:01,809 --> 01:53:05,165 I'm gonna wish you two the very best of luck. All right? 1642 01:53:45,409 --> 01:53:47,400 Sister, which is Mrs Harris' bed? 1643 01:53:47,449 --> 01:53:49,838 It's that one over there, Mr Taylor. 1644 01:53:51,089 --> 01:53:53,080 Good morning, Mrs Harris. 1645 01:53:53,129 --> 01:53:55,120 - Hiya. - Hiya. 1646 01:53:57,809 --> 01:54:00,004 What do you think? 1647 01:54:00,049 --> 01:54:01,846 Beautiful. 1648 01:54:03,609 --> 01:54:05,600 Family again, eh? 1649 01:54:06,969 --> 01:54:09,403 It's the only family I'll ever have now, Dave. 1650 01:54:10,609 --> 01:54:12,600 I've lost Myra, 1651 01:54:12,649 --> 01:54:14,640 Mam. 1652 01:54:14,689 --> 01:54:16,680 I can't lose this. 1653 01:54:16,729 --> 01:54:18,720 Yeah, I know. 1654 01:54:24,449 --> 01:54:26,440 I heard them come in. 1655 01:54:29,809 --> 01:54:32,607 I hope someone kills it and buries it on t'bloody moors. 1656 01:54:32,649 --> 01:54:34,640 You filthy bitch! 1657 01:54:34,689 --> 01:54:36,680 Come on! 1658 01:54:36,729 --> 01:54:38,720 It's not worth it. Leave it. 1659 01:55:08,809 --> 01:55:10,800 Safe home now anyway. 1660 01:55:10,849 --> 01:55:12,840 Right, girl. 1661 01:55:21,809 --> 01:55:23,800 Aye. 1662 01:55:23,849 --> 01:55:25,840 It's all right. 1663 01:55:27,129 --> 01:55:28,960 Maureen, 1664 01:55:29,009 --> 01:55:31,159 come on, he wants you. 1665 01:55:42,609 --> 01:55:44,600 I can't. 1666 01:55:46,609 --> 01:55:48,600 How can I? 1667 01:55:50,609 --> 01:55:52,520 Shh. 1668 01:55:52,569 --> 01:55:54,560 How can I ever be a mother again? 1669 01:55:57,969 --> 01:55:59,960 I'm a Hindley. 1670 01:56:10,489 --> 01:56:12,480 Shh. 1671 01:56:54,889 --> 01:56:56,880 Maureen. 1672 01:56:57,649 --> 01:56:59,924 Where have you been? 1673 01:57:27,689 --> 01:57:29,884 I've made a pot of tea, if you want some. 1674 01:57:29,929 --> 01:57:31,920 That'd be nice, love. 1675 01:57:33,449 --> 01:57:34,962 Nice place here. 1676 01:57:35,689 --> 01:57:37,327 It's small, but... 1677 01:57:38,369 --> 01:57:40,280 ..it's much nicer than my last place. 1678 01:57:41,889 --> 01:57:43,880 And I'm gonna redecorate. 1679 01:57:47,569 --> 01:57:49,560 And you got a job? 1680 01:57:49,609 --> 01:57:51,645 Lewis's. 1681 01:57:51,689 --> 01:57:53,168 Cleaning. 1682 01:57:54,889 --> 01:57:56,880 That's where I saw Aunty Cath. 1683 01:57:58,529 --> 01:58:00,201 I just... 1684 01:58:00,929 --> 01:58:04,399 I didn't dare believe it when she said you'd wanna see me. 1685 01:58:06,289 --> 01:58:08,280 I'm so sorry. 1686 01:58:09,329 --> 01:58:11,320 You've had a terrible time. 1687 01:58:20,089 --> 01:58:22,080 The whole estate turned against us. 1688 01:58:23,889 --> 01:58:27,484 We just kept hoping it'd...it'd go away. 1689 01:58:30,049 --> 01:58:33,485 We just kept hoping, if we had a family and... 1690 01:58:33,529 --> 01:58:35,520 stuck together... 1691 01:58:37,889 --> 01:58:39,880 ..it'd be OK. 1692 01:58:44,809 --> 01:58:46,481 But it wasn't. 1693 01:58:46,529 --> 01:58:48,008 Bricks through the window. 1694 01:58:49,289 --> 01:58:51,280 Poison pen letters. 1695 01:58:52,689 --> 01:58:54,839 God knows what else through the letter box. 1696 01:58:56,089 --> 01:58:58,523 People would spit at the kids. 1697 01:58:59,929 --> 01:59:01,920 Taunt them. 1698 01:59:03,809 --> 01:59:07,597 Me and Dave... we couldn't go anywhere without trouble. 1699 01:59:11,089 --> 01:59:13,080 Eventually, 1700 01:59:13,129 --> 01:59:15,120 one night... 1701 01:59:15,169 --> 01:59:17,160 Dave went for someone. 1702 01:59:19,489 --> 01:59:21,480 Got sent to Walton. 1703 01:59:25,489 --> 01:59:27,480 I just couldn't cope. 1704 01:59:30,689 --> 01:59:32,680 I was just in a pit. 1705 01:59:33,889 --> 01:59:35,880 Drinking. 1706 01:59:37,889 --> 01:59:39,880 Hopeless. 1707 01:59:46,689 --> 01:59:48,680 I had the kids put into care. 1708 01:59:50,209 --> 01:59:52,200 God forgive me. 1709 01:59:56,329 --> 01:59:58,320 I just thought... 1710 01:59:58,369 --> 02:00:01,042 that I'd ruined their lives. 1711 02:00:02,649 --> 02:00:04,640 And they deserved better. 1712 02:00:13,689 --> 02:00:15,680 I should have been in touch. 1713 02:00:16,689 --> 02:00:18,884 I should have helped you. 1714 02:00:20,289 --> 02:00:22,280 I felt I had to choose. 1715 02:00:25,289 --> 02:00:27,280 Dave's out of jail now. 1716 02:00:28,889 --> 02:00:30,880 He's got the kids back. 1717 02:00:33,209 --> 02:00:37,566 The social...social worker says they're doing OK. 1718 02:00:58,889 --> 02:01:01,357 Here you are, David. Do you want some bread? 1719 02:01:01,409 --> 02:01:03,400 Come here, then. Take it off me. 1720 02:01:03,449 --> 02:01:05,440 Here. 1721 02:01:05,489 --> 02:01:07,480 Don't throw it too far though. 1722 02:01:08,649 --> 02:01:10,640 Do you want some, Paul? 1723 02:01:12,489 --> 02:01:14,445 John, come away from the edge. 1724 02:01:16,609 --> 02:01:18,600 Good lad. 1725 02:01:29,089 --> 02:01:31,080 Stay this side of the boat, John. 1726 02:01:44,889 --> 02:01:46,447 Hiya. 1727 02:01:46,489 --> 02:01:48,241 Hi. 1728 02:01:50,889 --> 02:01:52,880 Hello, boys. 1729 02:01:52,929 --> 02:01:54,920 - Who's that lady? - It's your mam. 1730 02:01:58,489 --> 02:02:00,480 They've grown, haven't they? 1731 02:02:07,689 --> 02:02:09,680 David's just like you. 1732 02:02:09,729 --> 02:02:11,720 Named him well, then, didn't we? 1733 02:02:11,769 --> 02:02:15,159 We'd got a John and a Paul. I wasn't going to let you have Ringo. 1734 02:02:16,489 --> 02:02:18,207 I never thought I'd see 'em again. 1735 02:02:18,249 --> 02:02:20,922 Let alone have 'em back under my own roof. 1736 02:02:22,889 --> 02:02:24,880 You've done so well for them. 1737 02:02:26,889 --> 02:02:29,403 So, why would you want to let me see 'em again? 1738 02:02:30,489 --> 02:02:34,402 I think I'm a decent dad these days, but unless I suddenly sprout tits, 1739 02:02:34,449 --> 02:02:36,644 I'm never going to be their mother, am I? 1740 02:02:37,689 --> 02:02:39,680 Only you can be that. 1741 02:02:42,209 --> 02:02:44,279 They look happy, don't they? 1742 02:02:46,609 --> 02:02:48,088 I'd hate to get in the way. 1743 02:02:48,129 --> 02:02:50,120 Of what? 1744 02:02:52,089 --> 02:02:54,557 You might have met someone else for a start. 1745 02:02:54,609 --> 02:02:56,600 I haven't. 1746 02:02:56,649 --> 02:02:59,561 Not that I didn't get a few proposals in Walton, mind. 1747 02:03:00,929 --> 02:03:02,965 Come on. 1748 02:03:03,009 --> 02:03:05,239 So, when are we gonna see you again, then? 1749 02:03:26,089 --> 02:03:28,080 Come on. 1750 02:03:34,489 --> 02:03:36,480 I don't know if I can do this, Mam. 1751 02:03:36,529 --> 02:03:38,520 It's what she wants, love. 1752 02:03:39,609 --> 02:03:41,600 It's what both of you want, eh? 1753 02:03:41,649 --> 02:03:43,640 I'm not sure. 1754 02:03:43,689 --> 02:03:45,680 Come on. 1755 02:03:45,729 --> 02:03:47,720 I'll be waiting for you. Eh? 1756 02:03:47,769 --> 02:03:49,566 Yeah. 1757 02:04:41,089 --> 02:04:42,602 Myra. 1758 02:04:48,889 --> 02:04:50,880 Moby. 1759 02:05:04,489 --> 02:05:07,162 You don't know how I've longed for this moment. 1760 02:05:11,489 --> 02:05:13,366 How are you? 1761 02:05:15,529 --> 02:05:17,326 OK. 1762 02:05:18,129 --> 02:05:20,120 If only that were true. 1763 02:05:21,569 --> 02:05:23,799 You've been through hell because of me. 1764 02:05:24,649 --> 02:05:27,846 - I haven't come here to make you say that. - I want to say it. 1765 02:05:30,889 --> 02:05:34,165 I think about the consequences of my actions all the time. 1766 02:05:36,089 --> 02:05:38,398 The hardest, of course, is the children. 1767 02:05:40,049 --> 02:05:44,884 Living with the knowledge I helped bring such suffering on them and their families. 1768 02:05:47,489 --> 02:05:51,641 But there's not a day goes by when I don't think about what I've done to you. 1769 02:05:53,809 --> 02:05:55,800 I mean... 1770 02:05:57,129 --> 02:06:01,680 ..people make excuses for me, saying I must have been damaged when I was little. 1771 02:06:01,729 --> 02:06:03,765 Damaged? 1772 02:06:03,809 --> 02:06:05,527 How? 1773 02:06:06,569 --> 02:06:09,527 You know how Dad used to leather me sometimes. 1774 02:06:09,569 --> 02:06:11,560 He used to leather me too, Myra. 1775 02:06:12,609 --> 02:06:14,600 I didn't do what you did. 1776 02:06:15,689 --> 02:06:17,680 I know. 1777 02:06:18,689 --> 02:06:20,680 I know, Moby. 1778 02:06:21,689 --> 02:06:23,680 And I mustn't make excuses. 1779 02:06:24,969 --> 02:06:26,960 I keep telling 'em that. 1780 02:06:28,889 --> 02:06:31,198 Even when they say it was all Ian's fault, 1781 02:06:32,689 --> 02:06:34,680 that he changed me, 1782 02:06:35,729 --> 02:06:37,685 corrupted me. 1783 02:06:39,209 --> 02:06:41,518 - Who's they? - The governor. 1784 02:06:44,689 --> 02:06:46,680 And the others. 1785 02:06:48,209 --> 02:06:50,200 I've written to Ian. 1786 02:06:51,209 --> 02:06:53,279 I told him I want to sever all contact. 1787 02:07:00,929 --> 02:07:02,920 I've um... 1788 02:07:02,969 --> 02:07:04,960 been going through my stuff. 1789 02:07:05,009 --> 02:07:08,206 Getting rid of every trace of his influence on me. 1790 02:07:10,849 --> 02:07:12,840 I want you to take these away. 1791 02:07:14,129 --> 02:07:16,120 I don't want to see them again. 1792 02:07:18,089 --> 02:07:20,398 It makes me so ashamed when I look at them. 1793 02:07:22,889 --> 02:07:24,880 You weren't always like that, Myra. 1794 02:07:28,049 --> 02:07:30,040 You were a different person once. 1795 02:07:31,089 --> 02:07:33,284 And I want to be that person again, Mo. 1796 02:07:34,889 --> 02:07:36,880 I've started going to Mass. 1797 02:07:37,929 --> 02:07:39,920 And confession. 1798 02:07:40,969 --> 02:07:43,358 And in finding God again... 1799 02:07:44,809 --> 02:07:47,846 ..I do feel like I've found the real me. 1800 02:07:51,009 --> 02:07:53,000 Please. 1801 02:07:55,289 --> 02:07:58,599 There has to be forgiveness surely for all of us. 1802 02:07:59,769 --> 02:08:01,919 There has to be redemption. 1803 02:08:41,049 --> 02:08:43,040 All quiet on the Western Front? 1804 02:08:43,089 --> 02:08:45,967 Yeah. Never thought I'd get 'em down so easy. 1805 02:08:47,569 --> 02:08:49,560 Well, um... 1806 02:08:49,609 --> 02:08:51,804 suppose I'd better be getting on my way. 1807 02:08:51,849 --> 02:08:53,840 Why not stay? 1808 02:08:53,889 --> 02:08:55,880 The night? 1809 02:08:55,929 --> 02:08:57,920 Well, for good. 1810 02:08:59,769 --> 02:09:01,760 - You mean that? - Yeah. 1811 02:09:02,849 --> 02:09:04,840 Be a family again, eh? 1812 02:09:06,649 --> 02:09:08,640 - Yeah? - Yeah. 1813 02:09:25,449 --> 02:09:27,440 Dad'll be chuffed. 1814 02:09:27,489 --> 02:09:29,480 Yeah. 1815 02:09:29,529 --> 02:09:31,724 - What about your mam? - She'd be pleased. 1816 02:09:31,769 --> 02:09:34,363 Yeah, but she blames me for everything, doesn't she? 1817 02:09:34,409 --> 02:09:36,400 Not any more. 1818 02:09:36,449 --> 02:09:38,440 She's had years to think it through. 1819 02:09:39,489 --> 02:09:42,208 She understands the real blame lies with Brady. 1820 02:09:43,409 --> 02:09:45,479 She still thinks Myra's innocent? 1821 02:09:45,529 --> 02:09:47,963 No. Nor does Myra. 1822 02:09:49,009 --> 02:09:51,000 She's accepted full responsibility. 1823 02:09:51,049 --> 02:09:53,040 She's told the truth. 1824 02:09:53,089 --> 02:09:55,080 How do you know? 1825 02:09:55,129 --> 02:09:57,120 She told me. 1826 02:10:00,049 --> 02:10:02,040 You've been to see her? 1827 02:10:02,089 --> 02:10:04,080 Yeah. 1828 02:10:05,489 --> 02:10:07,400 She's admitted everything. 1829 02:10:07,449 --> 02:10:09,440 What has she admitted? 1830 02:10:09,489 --> 02:10:11,480 Dave... 1831 02:10:11,529 --> 02:10:13,520 I don't want to get into this now. 1832 02:10:13,569 --> 02:10:15,560 What has she admitted? 1833 02:10:15,609 --> 02:10:18,328 That she picked up John Kilbride and Lesley Ann Downey, 1834 02:10:18,369 --> 02:10:20,200 delivered them into Ian's hands. 1835 02:10:20,249 --> 02:10:23,047 - And that's it? - He bullied her into it, Dave. 1836 02:10:23,089 --> 02:10:26,525 But she knows now it was a terrible thing to do. 1837 02:10:26,569 --> 02:10:28,764 If she was bullied into it, why was she smiling 1838 02:10:28,809 --> 02:10:31,687 on that picture Brady took of her on John Kilbride's grave? 1839 02:10:31,729 --> 02:10:34,243 - She didn't know it was his grave. - Oh, come on. 1840 02:10:34,289 --> 02:10:36,086 She was in on all of it. 1841 02:10:36,129 --> 02:10:39,041 Abducting him, helping to rape, kill and bury him. 1842 02:10:39,089 --> 02:10:42,684 That was just some sick little joke they could share afterwards. 1843 02:10:43,969 --> 02:10:45,960 And Lesley Ann Downey. 1844 02:10:46,009 --> 02:10:48,284 If all Myra did was pick her up for Brady, 1845 02:10:48,329 --> 02:10:50,320 then why was her voice on that tape? 1846 02:10:51,329 --> 02:10:53,206 And Keith Bennett, what about him? 1847 02:10:53,249 --> 02:10:56,161 - Myra's adamant she had no part in that. - Pauline Reade? 1848 02:10:56,209 --> 02:10:58,279 I'm sure she knows nothing about that. 1849 02:10:58,329 --> 02:11:01,048 Anyway, who said anything happened to Pauline? 1850 02:11:01,089 --> 02:11:03,080 She's up there on the moors. 1851 02:11:03,129 --> 02:11:06,201 And if Myra really was sorry, she'd start by telling the police 1852 02:11:06,249 --> 02:11:08,763 where she's buried. And Keith Bennett, too. 1853 02:11:08,809 --> 02:11:12,722 I just have to believe what my heart tells me, Dave. 1854 02:11:12,769 --> 02:11:16,284 And my heart tells me whatever Myra did in the past, 1855 02:11:16,329 --> 02:11:18,524 she's a different person now. 1856 02:11:18,569 --> 02:11:20,560 I mean, they wouldn't be thinking 1857 02:11:20,609 --> 02:11:22,998 of giving her parole if that weren't true. 1858 02:11:23,049 --> 02:11:25,040 They're thinking of releasing her? 1859 02:11:26,089 --> 02:11:28,080 If you could see her, Dave. 1860 02:11:28,129 --> 02:11:30,199 If you could speak to her, you'd see. 1861 02:11:30,249 --> 02:11:32,240 She's the old Myra. 1862 02:11:33,289 --> 02:11:35,280 A warm, loving person. 1863 02:11:35,329 --> 02:11:37,320 She asks after the kids all the time. 1864 02:11:37,369 --> 02:11:39,439 She'd like to see 'em one day. 1865 02:11:39,489 --> 02:11:41,605 She's not coming near my kids. 1866 02:11:41,649 --> 02:11:43,526 She's worse than Brady, Maureen. 1867 02:11:43,569 --> 02:11:45,560 He's just a sicko, a sex case. 1868 02:11:45,609 --> 02:11:47,600 The king of the sex cases. 1869 02:11:47,649 --> 02:11:49,640 But Myra, 1870 02:11:49,689 --> 02:11:52,362 she's human, she had feelings. 1871 02:11:54,009 --> 02:11:56,079 Remember the tears when Angela died? 1872 02:11:57,129 --> 02:11:59,120 That card she gave us. 1873 02:11:59,169 --> 02:12:01,524 Another little flower for God's fucking garden! 1874 02:12:01,569 --> 02:12:04,720 - Jesus! She was killing kids at the same time. - All right! 1875 02:12:04,769 --> 02:12:06,760 All right. 1876 02:12:06,809 --> 02:12:08,800 You believe what you want to. 1877 02:12:09,809 --> 02:12:11,800 But please, 1878 02:12:11,849 --> 02:12:13,840 please can't you let me do the same? 1879 02:12:19,369 --> 02:12:21,360 Of course. 1880 02:12:21,409 --> 02:12:23,400 I'm sorry, Maureen. 1881 02:12:31,369 --> 02:12:33,360 If we can't put it behind us... 1882 02:12:33,409 --> 02:12:35,400 We've got to for the kids' sake. 1883 02:12:36,569 --> 02:12:38,560 We can do it, girl. 1884 02:12:38,609 --> 02:12:40,600 We can. 1885 02:13:00,369 --> 02:13:02,644 David, sit down and eat your breakfast. 1886 02:13:06,249 --> 02:13:08,240 There's your cereal, then, David. 1887 02:13:08,289 --> 02:13:10,280 Eat that. Good lad. 1888 02:13:10,329 --> 02:13:12,320 Paul, do you want some toast? 1889 02:13:14,369 --> 02:13:16,360 Stop playing. Eat your breakfast. 1890 02:13:16,409 --> 02:13:18,400 Come on. 1891 02:13:21,769 --> 02:13:23,760 Are you all sorted? 1892 02:13:23,809 --> 02:13:25,800 Come on, boys, eat up now. 1893 02:13:25,849 --> 02:13:27,840 Let Grandad look at his paper. 1894 02:13:28,569 --> 02:13:30,560 That's it. Tuck yourselves in. 1895 02:13:32,969 --> 02:13:34,960 Don't play with it, eat it. 1896 02:13:44,169 --> 02:13:46,160 Oh, come on, don't mess with that. 1897 02:13:46,209 --> 02:13:48,677 You only need a little bit of butter on there. 1898 02:13:48,729 --> 02:13:51,721 Never mind that now. I want you to eat your breakfast. 1899 02:13:51,769 --> 02:13:54,078 You'll grow big and strong like your dad. 1900 02:13:54,129 --> 02:13:56,518 No telling tales now. Eat your breakfast. 1901 02:13:56,569 --> 02:13:58,560 Eat your breakfast. 1902 02:13:58,609 --> 02:14:00,600 He can take his shoes off later. 1903 02:14:00,649 --> 02:14:02,640 I can. 1904 02:14:02,689 --> 02:14:04,680 Eat up, boys. 1905 02:14:09,969 --> 02:14:11,960 You all right? 1906 02:14:12,009 --> 02:14:14,000 Yeah. 1907 02:14:15,049 --> 02:14:17,040 I've um... 1908 02:14:17,089 --> 02:14:19,080 I've given them their breakfast. 1909 02:14:20,129 --> 02:14:21,687 Good. 1910 02:14:21,729 --> 02:14:23,765 I've run out of eyeliner. 1911 02:14:24,809 --> 02:14:26,800 I'm just gonna nip to the chemist. 1912 02:14:27,969 --> 02:14:29,960 OK. 1913 02:14:42,009 --> 02:14:44,000 What have I just said? Come on now. 142610

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