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What do you think?-
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Anyway, we um,
lots of, lots of adventures.
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So, after
everything
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you went through in the '90s,
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most people would stay out
of politics but you didn't.
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Absolutely, yes.
-And you
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eventually ran for president.
- You know, look.
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I think I felt compelled to
kind of get up and keep going
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and not to get knocked
down, you know,
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you can literally pull
the covers over your head
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and say my gosh I
can't deal with this
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or you say screw
you, you know what,
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I'm getting up, I'm getting
dressed, getting my hair done,
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putting my makeup on
and going out there.
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- Hello.
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- I won't.
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- Thank you, thank you.
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- Good luck in the election.
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- Thank you.
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- My God, my god.
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- You can take
criticism seriously,
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because you may actually
learn something right.
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I say that all the time.
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But don't take it personally.
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Because it can knock
you to your knees
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if you take it personally,
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and you begin to doubt yourself.
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Everybody has a motivation.
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The motivation can be petty,
it can be ideological,
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in my case it could be partisan.
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But that can't affect your
core about who you are.
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- You being a a woman president,
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I've heard it before
said about you,
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what if she makes decisions
based on emotions.
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- A lot of
people don't even think
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I have any emotions!
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I love that.
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Thank you.
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You people are here,
even the lady from Alabama.
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- No kidding.
- Love you girl.
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- How are you my dear.
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Ta da!
- Look at our night.
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- How are you?
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- I am here, Amy was amazing.
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I don't know how
many trips she made,
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she spoke at Democratic centers.
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These women, they were
great to have around
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and they were people
that I identified with.
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You know they got it.
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- You know we as women have
a lot of things in common.
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There's always a message we get
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about we're too
this or too that.
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Wait your turn, you smile too
much you must not be serious,
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you don't smile enough
you must not be friendly.
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You talk too much and
you're too serious
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and you know I wouldn't want
to have a beer with you,
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or I would want to
have a beer with you
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but you can't run
security for our country.
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Your hair, you know,
Donald Trump's hair,
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what about that hair?
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- We would get all
sorts of advice
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about how Hillary should
be presenting herself.
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What she should wear, what
her voice should sound like.
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The kind of words
she should use.
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How she stands at a podium,
how she modulates her voice.
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- Hey guys.
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- I will.
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- Thank you, thank you.
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- We like sat through
presentations,
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we brought people
in to meet with her.
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And I'd say if you
could tell her,
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a woman on the world stage
who does it perfectly
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then she could
emulate that person.
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And no one ever had an answer.
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No one ever had an answer
for who that woman is.
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- This is the moment,
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when folks talk
about a revolution?
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The revolution is electing
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the first woman president
of the United States.
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- One of the most
interesting stories
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in the primary was this
generational divide
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between young women
and their mothers,
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and young women were
supporting Bernie
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and their mothers were
saying how could you do that,
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Hillary has to be the
first woman president
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and young women just had no
reflective gender allegiance.
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- Hey Marge how are you?
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- I saw you, I love you.
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Interestingly, the
women who were excited about
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the first woman president
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were either much
older or very young.
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- Little girls were
so mad that there
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had not been a girl president.
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They would come in,
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they would come in with,
there's like this place mat,
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that has all of the
president's faces
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and they would bring their
place mat to their Hillary event
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and they'd be like where
is the girl president.
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Girls were really into her,
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they loved her and they
had their little pant suits
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that they would wear.
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- They had to make
a presentation.
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- My gosh Sammy
that is so neat.
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I hope, did you
get a good grade?
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- Yeah.
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- Good.
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The democratic
race is just about over.
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Hillary Clinton has 92
percent of the delegates
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that she needs for
the nomination.
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Hillary Clinton,
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last night when
you took the stage,
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there was a woman
standing next to me
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who was absolutely sobbing.
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She said you know, it's time,
they get tears in their eyes.
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- Right.
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Do you feel the
weight of what this means?
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- I do, I do.
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And it's really emotional,
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and I am someone who has been
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really encouraged by this
extraordinary conviction
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that people have that's
predominantly women and girls
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but not exclusively,
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men bring their
daughters to meet me
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and tell me that they
are supporting me
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because of their daughters.
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And I do think it will
make a very big difference
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for a father or a mother
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to be able to look
at their daughter
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just like they can
look at their son.
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And say you can be anything
you want to be in this country,
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including president
of the United States.
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- Howard loves you.
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Howard loves you!
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- Thank you so much.
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- Take care now, goodbye.
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- Nice job.
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Democratic primary
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is drawing to a
close tonight with--
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California
goes to Hillary Clinton.
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With
victories in four primaries.
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New
Mexico, South Dakota.
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- Tonight, Hillary Clinton
burst at least part way through
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that glass ceiling she's
always spoken about,
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becoming the first
woman to clinch
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a major party's nomination
for president in this country.
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- The first thing
I did as I came in
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was sort of huddle with
my team about the speech
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because it was a
historic moment,
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and it had never
happened before,
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and we wanted to capture that.
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That would mean these
two here are ready to go.
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And I wanted to
link it to the past
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and everything that
people had sacrificed
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and worked toward which in
many ways was culminating.
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I mean Shirley Chisholm
was the first person
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on the Democratic side to run
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and I thought about you
know, Gerri Ferraro,
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the first woman on a
vice presidential ticket
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of a major party.
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I was just on the
brink of tears,
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I thought wow,
this is more than
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I could have ever imagined.
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Right as I was ready to go
off, you know into the room,
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I remember Kumar
grabbing me and saying,
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you know just take it all
in, just take it all in.
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Hillary,
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.
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- Thanks to you, we've
reached a milestone.
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The first time,
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the first time in
our nation's history
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that a woman will be a
major party's nominee
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for the president of
the United States.
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I know
then you had to pivot
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to campaigning
against Donald Trump.
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- Right.
- If you could just
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talk about that experience.
- Right.
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Well he entered the campaign
with such negative energy,
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so much vitriol.
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- I think the only card she
has is the woman's card.
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She's got nothing else going,
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and frankly if Hillary
Clinton were a man,
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I don't think she'd get
five percent of the vote.
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The only thing she's got
going is the woman's card
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and the beautiful thing
is, women don't like her.
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- He clearly felt
comfortable attacking women,
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relished in denigrating women.
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Then he's turning on me saying
that I'm running as a woman
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or I'm using the fact
that I'm a woman,
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and so we wanted
to lean into it.
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I wanted to say yeah
you're right, I am.
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We're ready.
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We've got to get her
out before the culprits.
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Yeah.
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- We need to go guys.
- Yup.
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- Now the other day,
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Mr Trump accused me,
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of playing the,
quote, woman card.
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Boo.
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- Well if fighting
for women's healthcare
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and paid family
leave and equal pay
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is playing the woman
card then deal me in!
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Donald Trump
joins us now on the phone.
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Well I
haven't quite recovered,
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it's early in the morning,
from her shouting that message,
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the way she shouted that
message was not ooh.
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- If you go back
and look at some
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of Donald Trump's comments,
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she wouldn't even be allowed
to run if she weren't a woman,
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you know, which is crazy
given her experience and his.
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But nobody really blinked at
those kinds of statements.
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- Hillary was a leader of
the feminist revolution.
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People forget it.
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You know in the '90s
there was an element
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of radicalism to her feminism.
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You know, she was too
right too soon.
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at the White House,
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Hillary Clinton seems very much
the traditional first lady,
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not the barnstorming brains
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behind national
healthcare reform.
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- I want to welcome all
of you to the White House.
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We, this year, chose the theme
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of the twelve days of Christmas.
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After the failure we had
in universal health care,
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I felt terrible,
I felt like okay,
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can't take on another project,
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I gotta figure out what I
can do that makes sense.
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So I did regroup with my staff
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and we had a series of
meetings that you know,
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were painful and
tearful and difficult.
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- We all discussed kind of
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how are we going
to go forward here.
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And we decided that
you should go overseas.
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Pursue this passion you
have on women's rights.
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- In other news the first
lady's good will visit
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to South Asia has
taken her to India,
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the second leg of a five
nation South Asia tour
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for Hillary Rodham Clinton
and her daughter Chelsea.
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- I thought "what a great
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experience it would be
for Chelsea
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if she could go with me."
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I had never been to
any of those places
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so it was all new to me.
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This is the
first time a US first lady
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has visited this region
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since Jackie Kennedy
visited in 1962.
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Mrs. Kennedy handed out
lollipops to children
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and rode an elephant
side saddle.
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Mrs Clinton is seen as
more a woman of substance,
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campaigning for better education
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and healthcare for
women and children.
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- I remember being in
this remote part of India
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and women walked thirteen hours
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to see and meet with
Hillary Clinton.
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- I agree with all of you
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that women no longer
should be silent.
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Is this the one I
worked on?
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We
have to go guys get in.
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- I was alone on that trip.
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You know we had the
first lady's press corps.
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And we land in Pakistan,
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and she went to a
school for girls,
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and they wanted to be doctors
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and they wanted to be lawyers
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and they wanted to be teachers,
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just like any smart young women,
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but in a country that
didn't allow that.
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- So you have two
of your daughters
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who graduated already,
from this school,
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but now they have no
further opportunities.
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- I remember she was
blown away by that.
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And it was something that,
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was very close to
the core of her soul.
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First lady
Hillary Rodham Clinton
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continues her twelve day tour
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of South Asia today with
a stop in Bangladesh.
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What does it mean
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to have Mrs. Clinton come here?
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- Nobody came into this village.
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This is a part of the village
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that nobody will
ever dare to come.
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Now comes the first lady
of the world to visit us,
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the first lady of the
world is coming here.
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So we are important.
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And now they're standing tall
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because all of the
world is watching.
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Her international
travel becomes a balm.
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Everywhere she goes, they
greet her rapturously
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and it's healing I
think, in some ways,
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for her because suddenly
she's not being told
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she's a liberal shrew who
is outside of her lane.
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- Hi, fancy meeting
you all here.
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We had a great
group of reporters with us,
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and they had a lot of
interaction with her,
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you know saw her
let her hair down.
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And a lot of them said
to me on that trip,
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she should do more
of this, I mean,
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people should see what we see.
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She was much
different on this trip
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than I'd ever seen her before
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because the plane
was off the record,
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we would get into all
kinds of conversations
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and Chelsea was there,
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I got to see her
be Chelsea's mom
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and she's a really great mom.
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- Certainly growing up I had
seen out of personal attacks
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about my mom for her appearance,
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her working, her
presumably also like
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not being a very good mother,
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like poor Chelsea
she must like
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have no time with her mom,
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and I thankfully
remember that being like
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just totally ludicrous
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like, to tell me
anything about my mom
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who is this like super present,
super warm like amazing mom.
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And from a very early age I
just realized what people say
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or assert you know,
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maybe like not even
remotely reflective
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or related to reality.
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- It was an amazing trip,
and without knowing it,
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very serendipitous because
when I was asked to speak
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at the Beijing
women's conference,
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I had this very recent
real world experience
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about what was facing women
in places like South Asia.
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- So Hillary's invited
by the secretary general
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of the United Nations,
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to speak to the fourth UN
world conference on women.
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- You're honorary chair
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on the international
conference on women,
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they've got a September
meeting scheduled for Beijing.
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- -
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Will you go there?
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- I don't know yet.
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Well the White House
did not want me to go.
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The State Department
did not want me to go,
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because of China's
human rights abuses.
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So there was almost a wall
of opposition to my going.
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Conservative
leaders are still unhappy
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with the whole idea of the
United Nations conference.
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- There's no interest
in Hillary Clinton
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going to this
women's conference,
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it's not an
important conference,
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I mean that's the
great myth about this.
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I think she should not
go for all the reasons,
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the awkwardness of her political
and diplomatic position
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in this in this funny office,
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we keep saying first lady
capital F and L as if it exists.
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And that's a fairly new
invention of the American media.
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- No, no, no,
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come, come, come.
- But Harry S Truman
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would never have sent
Bess Truman to China.
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- Seriously.
- But...
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- This does have a useful.
- Eleanor Roosevelt
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would have gone.
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- It does, precisely.
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- At the same time we're
working on her speech,
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and there's tremendous
speculation about her speech,
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that speech was shown to no one.
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- It was a very
small group of people
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who worked on it, really small.
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And we did not have it vetted
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until we were on our way there.
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I think that was important
because otherwise
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it would have been diluted.
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And we were determined
and she was determined,
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not to dilute it.
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- I said "I wanna push
the envelope
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as far as we can push it."
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- First lady Hillary
Rodham Clinton arrived
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in Beijing tonight for the
largest UN gathering ever.
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The fourth world
conference on women.
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She landed right in the
middle of a controversy
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over stifling Chinese
security measures
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and over demands that she
speak out about human rights.
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- We worked and
finalized a speech,
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didn't get much sleep at all.
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Did not know what to expect.
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Those of us who have the
opportunity to be here
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have the responsibility to
speak for those who could not.
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- And it starts out very slow.
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- Yet much of the work we do.
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- There was no response
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as Hillary started delivering it
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and Melanne and I
suddenly panicked.
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- And we kind of look at
each other thinking gosh.
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- Like we totally misjudged
this, we misread this occasion,
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we are going to get
her in big trouble.
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She's going to create
an international,
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because nobody was reacting,
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they were all just
sitting there stone faced.
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- Families flourish,
communities--
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This crowd was all
listening to translations,
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so there was always a delay,
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they weren't reacting
immediately
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and I kept waiting for it.
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Here in Beijing.
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- And she begins to go
into this crescendo.
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- For too long,
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the history of women has
been a history of silence.
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- And goes through a litany
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of what is happening to
women around the world.
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- It is a violation
of human rights
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when women are
doused with gasoline,
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set on fire and burned to death
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because their marriage
dowries are deemed too small.
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- Honor killings,
dowry burnings,
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girls who have their
life snuffed out.
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- Simply because
they are born girls.
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- Domestic violence,
rape as a tool of war,
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Human trafficking and as
she's going through this,
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for each of them she's saying
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and this is a violation
of human rights.
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And you could see
the audience begin
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to come completely
enveloped into her speech.
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- If there is one
message that echoes forth
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from this conference,
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let it be that human
rights are women's rights
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and women's rights are human
rights once and for all.
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- She declared that women's
rights are human rights.
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It redefined human
rights around the world.
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- You know, I've traveled with
her for many years after that
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and people would run up
clutching copies of that speech,
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reciting that line from it,
like it was the manifesto,
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a validation of so many
tens of millions of women,
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hundreds of millions of
women around the world
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who have nobody speaking
for them, no one ever,
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had spoken for them.
427
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- The whole thing was
just extraordinary.
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There's a picture of Hillary
and Melanne Verveer and me
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on the plane going out,
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and I remember it
was a women's moment.
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Ladies
and gentlemen,
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the president of
the United States,
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the First Lady and
Chelsea Clinton.
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- Today the American
people have spoken,
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they have told us to go forward.
436
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Today our economy is stronger,
our streets are safer,
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the world is more secure
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and thank God our
nation is more united.
439
00:21:53,395 --> 00:21:54,939
- By the time '96 came around,
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the economic plan was working,
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people saw it and the
economy was booming.
442
00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:01,654
- The economic bill was
the most important thing,
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it reversed trickle
down economics,
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or what they called Reaganomics.
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Went back to arithmetic,
invest and grow and be prudent,
446
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and it sparked the longest
peace time recovery in history.
447
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:17,920
- After the failure of the
Clinton healthcare plan,
448
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Hillary spun immediately
into getting healthcare
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for working class kids.
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The children's heath
insurance program.
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- Senator Teddy
Kennedy said to me,
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well I think I might be
able to get Orrin Hatch,
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a Republican senator from
Utah to work with us.
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We were able to get
it through the Senate,
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get it through the House
and pass the Chip program
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that literally provides
health insurance for kids
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about ten million a year.
458
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We didn't get to universal
healthcare coverage,
459
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but you know I think the
debate we sometimes have,
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all or nothing is
the wrong debate.
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How do we get something
done in an environment
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that's very partisan,
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filled with powerful special
interests and then keep going.
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- Serious crime has dropped
five years in a row.
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The key has been
community policing.
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We must finish the job
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of putting a hundred
thousand community police
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on the streets of
the United States.
469
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:16,061
- Now Bill Clinton came back
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to where he should
have been all along.
471
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And that was in the
center of the spectrum.
472
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He was elected as a moderate.
473
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He was elected because
the American people
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were very concerned about crime.
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Going back you know, the
late 1980's early 1990's.
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We were having a crack
epidemic at that point.
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Typical scenes
in America's big cities.
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There's a tidal wave
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of juvenile violent crime
right over the horizon.
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- The less we deal,
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with the ravages of crime
and drug and violence,
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none of the other
things we seek to do
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will ever take us
where we need to go.
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- Crime was rampant,
drugs were rampant,
485
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in particular in
communities of color.
486
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The president was
hearing from mayors,
487
00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:03,651
he was hearing from the
congressional black caucus,
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and they were saying
please do something.
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00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:08,906
President Clinton
signed a crime bill into law,
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30 billion dollars
for more police,
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new prisons, harsher penalties.
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It includes
President Clinton's
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three strikes and
you're out provision.
494
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:19,583
- It becomes critical
to Bill Clinton
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to come up with a sort of
centrist set of policies.
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And things like
mandatory sentencing
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had strong support on
both sides of the aisle.
498
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I think that people
were not cognizant
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of the fact that you would
essentially be filling up
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the country's prisons with a
lot of non-violent offenders.
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- Were there parts of it that
should have been revisited
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and that you know, had
unintended consequences,
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absolutely there were.
504
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And I think Bill has
said that and you know,
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people who were involved in
it have basically said it.
506
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So there's criticism
and I understand that.
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I also think that
people were then
508
00:25:05,254 --> 00:25:10,092
taking out of context
things that I said and did.
509
00:25:10,092 --> 00:25:12,845
We also have to have an
organized effort against gangs.
510
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:14,471
We need to take these people on,
511
00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:17,349
they are often connected
to big drug cartels,
512
00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,810
they are not just
gangs of kids anymore.
513
00:25:19,810 --> 00:25:21,812
They are often the kinds of kids
514
00:25:21,812 --> 00:25:25,649
that are called super predators,
no conscience, no empathy,
515
00:25:25,649 --> 00:25:27,651
we can talk about why
they ended up that way,
516
00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:29,695
but first we have to
bring them to heal.
517
00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:32,573
- In the 1990's there
was a lot of hysteria
518
00:25:32,573 --> 00:25:34,867
about the idea of
super predators.
519
00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:39,747
It was on magazine covers
and she was responding
520
00:25:39,747 --> 00:25:44,293
to what was being talked
about at the time.
521
00:25:44,293 --> 00:25:48,380
Now, what may have seemed
like a reasonable thing to say
522
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:55,389
in the 90's in the light
of 2016, did not look good.
523
00:25:55,389 --> 00:25:56,805
- I was talking
about gang members.
524
00:25:56,805 --> 00:25:58,974
I was talking about
vicious gang members,
525
00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:02,061
you don't hear me putting
race on it at all.
526
00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:04,646
But did you
have to then apologize
527
00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:06,523
during this election for that?
528
00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:08,776
- I don't remember,
I mean I was always saying,
529
00:26:08,776 --> 00:26:10,069
trying to explain things
530
00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:13,703
that people didn't
want to hear, so.
531
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,205
- We are all in this together,
532
00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:23,540
as we Methodists like to say,
533
00:26:25,209 --> 00:26:28,545
do all the good you can
to all the people you can
534
00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:31,882
in all the ways you can.
535
00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:33,175
How are you my friend?
536
00:26:33,175 --> 00:26:34,009
- I'm doing real good.
537
00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:35,260
-
538
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,845
Please
join me in welcoming
539
00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:40,099
congressman John Lewis and
secretary Hillary Clinton
540
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:42,935
as we at Clark
Atlanta University,
541
00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:45,854
continue mobilizing
for the future.
542
00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:51,819
- The leaders of the civil
rights movement had it right.
543
00:26:51,819 --> 00:26:55,823
Using nonviolence,
using the power--
544
00:26:55,823 --> 00:26:57,324
- Black lives matter!
545
00:26:57,324 --> 00:26:58,784
- Yes they do!
546
00:27:01,015 --> 00:27:03,997
- Yes they do and I'm going
to talk a lot about that.
547
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:08,877
We need you.
548
00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:13,666
We need the promise of a
rising generation of activists
549
00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:17,719
who are fearless in your
advocacy and determination.
550
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:20,430
Let her talk,
let her talk, let her talk,
551
00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:23,892
let her talk, let her
talk, let her talk.
552
00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:31,316
- I don't have any
bad feelings at all
553
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,652
about the Black Lives movement,
554
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,362
about what they did
and how they did it,
555
00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:38,615
and how they tried to
express themselves.
556
00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:43,620
The cry to be heard, to be seen,
was absolutely appropriate.
557
00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:50,794
The rash of killings of
young unarmed black men
558
00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:55,257
was so outrageous and painful,
559
00:27:55,257 --> 00:27:58,093
and there needed to
be a reaction to that.
560
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:03,765
People are crying out for
criminal justice reform.
561
00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:08,770
Families are being torn apart
by excessive incarceration.
562
00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:11,315
Young people are
being threatened
563
00:28:11,315 --> 00:28:15,319
and humiliated by
racial profiling.
564
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:20,324
They're trying to tell
us we need to listen.
565
00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:25,996
I talked about it a lot, taking
on some really tough issues,
566
00:28:25,996 --> 00:28:27,831
particularly around
gun violence.
567
00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:32,294
But by the time we got
to the general election,
568
00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:36,965
much to my surprise
actually, it didn't matter,
569
00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:41,970
because I was running a
kind of textbook campaign.
570
00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:47,309
Meanwhile, my
Republican opponent
571
00:28:47,309 --> 00:28:49,186
was just ranting and raving
572
00:28:49,186 --> 00:28:52,773
and it just sucked
up all the oxygen.
573
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,359
- Hillary Clinton is a bigot
574
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,446
who sees people of color
575
00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:02,783
only as votes not
as human beings.
576
00:29:02,783 --> 00:29:05,410
- Trump is so out there,
how do you deal with this,
577
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:08,956
this is not a
ordinary candidate.
578
00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:10,248
- Get 'em out,
579
00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,750
I'd like to punch him in
the face, I'll tell you.
580
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,252
There are so many
things that are controversial
581
00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:16,236
and out of the norm.
582
00:29:16,236 --> 00:29:18,840
- Crooked Hillary Clinton,
she's crooked folks,
583
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,391
she's crooked as a
three dollar bill.
584
00:29:21,391 --> 00:29:24,179
Now she's got bad temperament,
she could be crazy,
585
00:29:24,179 --> 00:29:25,681
she could actually be crazy.
586
00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:29,393
- He's got a bullying style,
and will say anything,
587
00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:32,270
and she is the
candidate of control,
588
00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:35,565
a school yard rumble
isn't exactly her,
589
00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:38,276
her normal, you know,
venue is in her strength.
590
00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:40,320
- This was one of
the biggest debates
591
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,240
that I had with myself, and
that I had with my campaign.
592
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,910
What do you respond to,
and what do you ignore.
593
00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:50,831
I mean I saw what happened
to the other Republicans
594
00:29:50,831 --> 00:29:52,624
that were running against him.
595
00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:56,878
They tried all kinds of tactics,
to respond, to out shame,
596
00:29:56,878 --> 00:30:00,257
to try to out-insult,
none of it worked.
597
00:30:01,008 --> 00:30:05,554
- He seemed almost
impervious to it.
598
00:30:05,554 --> 00:30:09,558
- Most of what Donald Trump
does is the same thing
599
00:30:09,558 --> 00:30:11,727
why a dog licks his balls.
600
00:30:11,727 --> 00:30:13,812
Because he knows he can.
601
00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:18,108
- The problem with Trump
was his utter ability
602
00:30:18,108 --> 00:30:19,901
to drive the news.
603
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:22,863
Donald Trump effectively
decided what was talked about
604
00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:24,364
in the news every day.
605
00:30:24,364 --> 00:30:27,701
- Russia, if you're
listening, I hope you're able
606
00:30:27,701 --> 00:30:32,622
to find the 30,000
emails that are missing.
607
00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:34,249
- That was during
our convention,
608
00:30:34,249 --> 00:30:35,917
so what do you think
drove news that day.
609
00:30:35,917 --> 00:30:38,045
Our convention or Donald
Trump telling Russia
610
00:30:38,045 --> 00:30:40,088
to hack Hillary Clinton
about her emails.
611
00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:45,093
Someone like Hillary Clinton,
612
00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:48,180
she can't compete theatrically
with that, she just can't.
613
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:53,518
- Hillary Clinton
always has been and was
614
00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:57,530
throughout the campaign,
deeply suspicious of the press.
615
00:30:57,530 --> 00:30:59,377
- Thank you everybody.
616
00:30:59,377 --> 00:31:02,736
Trump exists
because of the press.
617
00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:05,906
- Hillary at that
point said I think
618
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:07,574
this is going to
come down to debates.
619
00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:09,576
Those three debates are
going to be the ball game.
620
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:14,289
- I thought they were
gonna be determinative.
621
00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:19,734
I thought that the contrast
between me and Trump
622
00:31:19,734 --> 00:31:23,131
would swing a lot of votes,
that's what I thought.
623
00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:27,886
- We were only a couple points
ahead and the expectations
624
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,932
for him were so low that
if he had come close
625
00:31:31,932 --> 00:31:34,309
to beating her,
the race could flip
626
00:31:34,309 --> 00:31:36,394
and he could take the lead.
627
00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:38,855
- He had learned
already in the campaign,
628
00:31:38,855 --> 00:31:41,274
he wasn't gonna be
held accountable,
629
00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:44,152
nobody was gonna held, hold
him accountable except for me,
630
00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:45,695
I was going to be the one
who was going to have to try.
631
00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:48,115
So how
does he figure that out?
632
00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:48,949
- Haha.
633
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:54,788
- Do you want one?
634
00:31:54,788 --> 00:31:57,290
- Yeah thanks Donald,
that's really nice of you.
635
00:31:57,290 --> 00:31:59,126
- I had the honor
and the misfortune
636
00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:01,253
of playing Donald Trump
in her debate prep.
637
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:04,131
- Philippe immersed
himself in acting like,
638
00:32:04,131 --> 00:32:06,758
looking like, talking
like Donald Trump.
639
00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:10,846
- He would be unafraid
to push back at me,
640
00:32:10,846 --> 00:32:14,516
to say and do things
that were really
641
00:32:14,516 --> 00:32:16,017
offensive and annoying.
642
00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:18,770
- Are you gonna share
your 33,000 emails.
643
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:21,481
- I made a mistake in
using a private email,
644
00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:22,357
I've said this before.
645
00:32:22,357 --> 00:32:23,776
- Breaking news.
646
00:32:26,236 --> 00:32:27,904
- The other thing
we really wanted
647
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:30,824
to accomplish was
to trigger him.
648
00:32:30,824 --> 00:32:32,993
You know we knew
he was a narcissist,
649
00:32:32,993 --> 00:32:37,247
and so if we could get
him flying off the handle,
650
00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:38,915
that would show
who he really is,
651
00:32:38,915 --> 00:32:40,917
that would show his temperament.
652
00:32:48,261 --> 00:32:50,907
- Just over the next segment.
653
00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:55,515
- You go to her website, and
you take a look at her website,
654
00:32:55,515 --> 00:32:58,977
she's gonna raise
taxes $1.3 trillion,
655
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:01,188
and look at her
website, you know what
656
00:33:01,188 --> 00:33:04,357
she's telling us
how to fight ISIS,
657
00:33:04,357 --> 00:33:06,902
just go to her website, she
tells you how to fight ISIS
658
00:33:06,902 --> 00:33:09,571
on her website, I don't think
General Douglas MacArthur
659
00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:11,072
would like that too much.
660
00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:13,200
- All right the next, the
next segment will continue.
661
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,368
- Well at least I have
a plan to fight ISIS.
662
00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,621
No, no
you're telling the enemy
663
00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:19,039
everything you want to do.
664
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,458
- Well Donald I know you
live in your own reality
665
00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:24,419
but that is not the fact.
666
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:28,548
- You know to take on this
bully, this nasty bully
667
00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:32,761
and to stand up to him,
he really was disoriented,
668
00:33:32,761 --> 00:33:34,262
it was great.
669
00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:38,183
- This is a man who has called
women pigs, slobs, and dogs.
670
00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:41,603
One of the worst things
he said was about a woman
671
00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:44,898
in a beauty contest, he
loves beauty contests,
672
00:33:44,898 --> 00:33:47,484
supporting them and
hanging around them.
673
00:33:47,484 --> 00:33:51,613
And he called this
woman Miss Piggy,
674
00:33:51,613 --> 00:33:53,281
then he called her
675
00:33:53,281 --> 00:33:56,243
Miss Housekeeping
because she was Latina.
676
00:33:56,243 --> 00:33:57,244
Donald she has a name.
677
00:33:57,244 --> 00:33:58,662
- Where did you find this?
678
00:33:58,662 --> 00:34:00,288
- Her name is Alicia Machado--
- Where did you find this?
679
00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:03,124
- And she has
become a US citizen
680
00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:06,211
and you can bet she's going
to vote this November.
681
00:34:06,211 --> 00:34:07,128
- Really?
Okay, okay good.
682
00:34:07,128 --> 00:34:08,463
Let me just tell you.
683
00:34:24,813 --> 00:34:26,606
I was looking to get.
684
00:34:27,774 --> 00:34:29,109
- I'm proud of you,
I'm proud of you.
685
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:31,653
- I saw you smiling
and I saw your dad
686
00:34:31,653 --> 00:34:34,656
sometimes leaning forward and
putting his head in his hand.
687
00:34:34,656 --> 00:34:35,865
God, I'm proud of you.
688
00:34:35,865 --> 00:34:37,701
- I just kept smiling,
I just kept smiling,
689
00:34:37,701 --> 00:34:40,161
you were so good.
- That was great.
690
00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:42,622
- She went into that
first debate prepared
691
00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:46,001
to make Donald Trump
look inexperienced.
692
00:34:46,001 --> 00:34:49,254
- They had this idea that
if they could get him
693
00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:53,967
to be inappropriate or
say inappropriate things,
694
00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:58,972
to to act out, that it
would hurt his candidacy.
695
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:02,743
But that's what he was selling.
696
00:35:02,743 --> 00:35:05,145
- Mr. Trump how do you
think you did tonight.
697
00:35:05,145 --> 00:35:07,897
- I thought it was great, I
mean I got everything I wanted
698
00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:11,067
to say I got it out, other than
the transgressions of Bill,
699
00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:13,069
I didn't want to say
what I was going to say
700
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:14,654
with Chelsea in the room.
701
00:35:14,654 --> 00:35:18,533
She's married to a man who
was the worst abuser of women
702
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:20,368
in the history of politics.
703
00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:24,831
She's married to a man
who hurt many women,
704
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:27,375
and Hillary, Hillary
was an enabler,
705
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:30,074
so just remember that folks.
706
00:35:39,179 --> 00:35:41,306
- Sunday morning I get
a call from my editor
707
00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:45,852
and she says there's this
crazy story out there
708
00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:49,064
about President
Clinton and an intern
709
00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:50,106
and we need you to chase it.
710
00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:51,191
I'm like,.
711
00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:57,530
How on earth am I going to
ever write a story, you just,
712
00:35:57,530 --> 00:36:01,534
this is a dog assignment because
713
00:36:01,534 --> 00:36:03,036
how can we ever prove
something like that.
714
00:36:03,036 --> 00:36:06,790
At that time, we didn't
write stories like that,
715
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:09,501
it wasn't what the
mainstream press did.
716
00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:12,921
Paula Jones filed
a lawsuit she says
717
00:36:12,921 --> 00:36:15,507
the governor of Arkansas
made a pass at her.
718
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:18,343
- It's just humiliating
what he did to me.
719
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,221
- A judge had ordered the
president of the United States
720
00:36:21,221 --> 00:36:24,683
to give testimony in response
to Paula Jones' allegations.
721
00:36:26,059 --> 00:36:28,353
I was a junior guy on the
beat and nobody wanted
722
00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:29,688
to touch the Paula Jones story.
723
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,816
It just seemed icky and
and not going anywhere.
724
00:36:33,942 --> 00:36:34,609
Good morning
Mr. President.
725
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:35,568
- Good morning.
726
00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:36,653
My name is Jim Fisher...
727
00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:38,222
- What we learned later is
728
00:36:38,222 --> 00:36:40,490
the president is asked
during his deposition
729
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:41,908
about a young woman
at the White House
730
00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:43,118
named Monica Lewinsky.
731
00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:47,247
At any time were you
and Monica Lewinsky
732
00:36:47,247 --> 00:36:49,582
together alone in
the Oval Office.
733
00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,298
- I don't recall but as
I said when she worked
734
00:36:57,298 --> 00:36:59,467
at the legislative
affairs office,
735
00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:03,638
they always had somebody
there on the weekends,
736
00:37:03,638 --> 00:37:06,099
I typically work
some on the weekends,
737
00:37:06,099 --> 00:37:07,976
sometimes they bring me
things on the weekends,
738
00:37:07,976 --> 00:37:09,811
she, it seems to me
she brought things
739
00:37:09,811 --> 00:37:11,604
to me once or twice
on the weekends.
740
00:37:13,022 --> 00:37:15,859
Did it ever happen
that you and she went
741
00:37:15,859 --> 00:37:18,027
down the hallway
from the Oval Office
742
00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:19,320
to the private kitchen.
743
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,116
Your honor,
excuse me Mr. President,
744
00:37:23,116 --> 00:37:25,869
I need some guidance from
the court at this time--
745
00:37:25,869 --> 00:37:27,662
- Now Clinton knew he was going
to be asked about her
746
00:37:27,662 --> 00:37:30,957
because her name had been on
the list the lawyers submitted.
747
00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:33,626
But what he wasn't expecting
was they would ask him
748
00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:35,754
so many very specific questions
749
00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:37,464
about his relationship
with Monica Lewinsky.
750
00:37:37,464 --> 00:37:40,633
Have you ever given any
gifts to Monica Lewinsky.
751
00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:42,594
They clearly knew
something and he didn't know
752
00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:44,345
how they knew it,
they knew about gifts
753
00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:45,513
that he had given her--
754
00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:47,140
- I don't recall, do
you know what they were?
755
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:48,641
A hat pin.
756
00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,604
- I don't, I don't remember.
757
00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:55,023
Did you have a
extramarital sexual affair
758
00:37:55,023 --> 00:37:56,065
with Monica Lewinsky?
759
00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:56,900
- No.
760
00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:03,490
If she told someone
that she had a sexual affair
761
00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:08,328
with you beginning in November
of 1995, would that be a lie?
762
00:38:08,328 --> 00:38:10,830
- It's certainly not the truth.
763
00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:12,415
It would not be the truth.
764
00:38:12,415 --> 00:38:15,043
- And what we learned was
that Ken Starr was looking
765
00:38:15,043 --> 00:38:17,962
into it, that the independent
counsel was looking
766
00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:21,800
into whether President
Clinton had lied under oath,
767
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,636
had tampered with witnesses,
had obstructed justice
768
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,305
by trying to cover up his
affair with Monica Lewinsky
769
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,641
in the Paula Jones
civil lawsuit.
770
00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:33,478
And I remember sitting in
our national editor's office
771
00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:35,855
and there's a whole scrum of us,
772
00:38:35,855 --> 00:38:38,691
there's no question in our
mind to publish the story.
773
00:38:38,691 --> 00:38:40,693
But I remember walking
home that night around two
774
00:38:40,693 --> 00:38:46,098
in the morning just
thinking my god, you know
775
00:38:46,098 --> 00:38:49,369
what's going to come now,
what have we unleashed here.
776
00:38:49,369 --> 00:38:52,038
And sure enough
five in the morning,
777
00:38:52,038 --> 00:38:54,040
the whole thing just blew up.
778
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,291
Allegations of sex
779
00:38:55,291 --> 00:38:57,335
in the White House,
taped conversations.
780
00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:58,920
An amazing
day in Washington.
781
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,213
A sexual
affair with a-.
782
00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:02,215
White House
intern Monica Lewinsky.
783
00:39:02,215 --> 00:39:03,675
Mr. President's
special behavior.
784
00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:06,409
The keyword there
is if the allegations are true.
785
00:39:08,096 --> 00:39:10,014
- Bill came early one
morning into the bedroom,
786
00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:14,269
I was not up yet and he
sat on the side of the bed
787
00:39:14,269 --> 00:39:15,770
and he said I have to
tell you something,
788
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:18,064
there's a story that's
gonna be in the newspaper.
789
00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:23,903
That, it's about an
intern who worked
790
00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:25,572
in the White House and claiming
791
00:39:25,572 --> 00:39:28,241
that I had a
relationship with her.
792
00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:31,077
You know I was just like
waking up, I didn't,
793
00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:33,246
I was like having a hard time
processing it, and I said
794
00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:35,498
what are you talking about,
what, what, what is this,
795
00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:37,333
what do you mean?
796
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:39,627
He said well there's nothing
to it, it's not true,
797
00:39:39,627 --> 00:39:42,130
you know I may have been
you know too nice to her,
798
00:39:42,130 --> 00:39:45,633
I may have you know paid her
you know, too much attention
799
00:39:45,633 --> 00:39:48,928
but there there was
nothing, and he was adamant,
800
00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:52,029
and he was convincing to me.
801
00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:57,896
- I did not have sexual
relations with that woman.
802
00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,355
Miss Lewinsky.
803
00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:03,526
- He publicly denied it, and
privately denied it to Hillary,
804
00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:07,113
to me, to everybody else.
805
00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,699
Face to face, eye to eye.
806
00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:11,159
- And he said just
don't quit on me,
807
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,457
I'm telling you it's not
true, don't quit on me.
808
00:40:13,457 --> 00:40:16,040
And I said okay.
Yes sir.
809
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,000
And walked out, that was
a 10 second conversation.
810
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,963
- You've got a White
House in total paralysis.
811
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:28,468
At the same time, Hillary
had made a commitment
812
00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:30,178
to being on the today show.
813
00:40:30,178 --> 00:40:31,429
- And good morning--
814
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:33,973
And she
didn't want to cancel.
815
00:40:33,973 --> 00:40:36,267
- The last time we visited
a subject like this
816
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,519
involving your family was 1992.
817
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,563
And the name Jennifer
Flowers was in the news
818
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:43,316
and your husband admitted
that he had quote caused pain
819
00:40:43,316 --> 00:40:44,567
in your marriage.
820
00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:46,986
If he were to be asked
today Mrs. Clinton,
821
00:40:46,986 --> 00:40:48,237
do you think that he would admit
822
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:49,989
that he has again caused
pain in this marriage.
823
00:40:49,989 --> 00:40:52,075
- No, absolutely not.
824
00:40:52,075 --> 00:40:53,576
And he shouldn't.
825
00:40:53,576 --> 00:40:56,079
You know we've been
married for 22 years Matt,
826
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:59,749
and I have learned a long
time ago that the only people
827
00:40:59,749 --> 00:41:02,794
who count in any marriage
are the two that are in it.
828
00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,295
- Now this is in a way shades
829
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:07,048
of the 60 minutes interview
right, she's saving him again.
830
00:41:07,048 --> 00:41:09,300
It's her validation that
allows him to keep going,
831
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,469
because otherwise the
pressure for resignation
832
00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,639
was already rising, the anger
within the Democratic party
833
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:16,975
not just the Republican
party was enormous.
834
00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:19,519
- You know the president
has denied these allegations
835
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:24,440
on all counts, unequivocally,
and we'll-- we'll see
836
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,901
how this plays out, you know
I guess everybody says to me
837
00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:28,945
how can you be so
calm, or how can you
838
00:41:28,945 --> 00:41:31,406
just you know look
like you're not upset
839
00:41:31,406 --> 00:41:33,783
and I guess I've just been
through it so many times.
840
00:41:33,783 --> 00:41:36,619
I mean Bill and I have
been accused of everything,
841
00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:39,539
including murder by some
of the very same people
842
00:41:39,539 --> 00:41:41,290
who are behind
these allegations.
843
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:44,335
That's what I believed,
I believed it was part
844
00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:48,214
of the whole Starr investigation
845
00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:53,094
and I was absolutely persuaded
because of my own experience,
846
00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:55,930
not what anybody else went
through but I went through
847
00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:57,682
that this guy would
make up stuff.
848
00:41:57,682 --> 00:41:59,267
If they could make up something,
849
00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:02,937
if they could lie about
something they were so partisan
850
00:42:02,937 --> 00:42:04,439
that they would do it.
851
00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:05,732
- You have said I understand
to some close friends
852
00:42:05,732 --> 00:42:07,567
that this was the
last great battle,
853
00:42:07,567 --> 00:42:11,320
and that one side or the
other is going down here.
854
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,408
- This is, the great story
here for anybody willing
855
00:42:15,408 --> 00:42:18,161
to find it and write
about it and explain it
856
00:42:18,161 --> 00:42:20,538
is this vast right
wing conspiracy
857
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:23,249
that has been conspiring
against my husband
858
00:42:23,249 --> 00:42:25,209
since the day he announced
for president.
859
00:42:26,586 --> 00:42:28,421
Facing the
cameras for the first time
860
00:42:28,421 --> 00:42:30,882
since he began an investigation
of the alleged affair
861
00:42:30,882 --> 00:42:34,135
and cover-up, prosecutor Kenneth
Starr's dismissed charges
862
00:42:34,135 --> 00:42:35,553
he is out to hurt the president.
863
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:39,390
- I have a very strong
belief in facts and in truth,
864
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:40,975
and that the facts will come out
865
00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:42,977
and the truth will
come out, eventually.
866
00:42:45,063 --> 00:42:48,775
- I believed Lewinsky.
867
00:42:48,775 --> 00:42:51,810
From the beginning and
I think all of us did.
868
00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:56,509
Not that we had inside
information, but that
869
00:42:56,509 --> 00:43:01,704
it just didn't seem far from
the person that we knew.
870
00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:06,250
And I hugged her and wanted
very much to comfort her,
871
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:09,337
but it would be like a
mask would come over her
872
00:43:09,337 --> 00:43:11,005
in those days.
873
00:43:11,005 --> 00:43:13,341
That was in between
the disclosure,
874
00:43:13,341 --> 00:43:14,342
the public disclosure
875
00:43:14,342 --> 00:43:16,803
and the time that he
admitted that it was true.
876
00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:19,263
Monica I love you.
-Monica!
877
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:22,600
- So Monica was my intern.
878
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,104
She um,
879
00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,648
she was this was when I
worked for the White House
880
00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:33,194
Chief of Staff, she did a
really good job, very diligent,
881
00:43:33,194 --> 00:43:37,218
easy to work with
pleasant, nice, smart.
882
00:43:37,218 --> 00:43:40,535
- Day 13 of the federal
budget crisis and the shutdown
883
00:43:40,535 --> 00:43:43,246
that's brought parts of the
government to a dead stop.
884
00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:46,082
- Today as of noon, almost half
885
00:43:46,082 --> 00:43:49,460
of the federal government
employees are idle.
886
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,546
- During the
government shutdown,
887
00:43:51,546 --> 00:43:54,549
we set a very skeleton
staff, but we were allowed
888
00:43:54,549 --> 00:43:56,968
to use interns, so I asked
her if she would come over
889
00:43:56,968 --> 00:43:58,886
and you know answer
phones and just help me
890
00:43:58,886 --> 00:44:01,389
around the chief
of staff's office.
891
00:44:01,389 --> 00:44:03,724
I think that maybe she
had had seen the President
892
00:44:03,724 --> 00:44:06,394
a few times before at events
or something, but she met him,
893
00:44:06,394 --> 00:44:08,688
he came down, it
was my birthday.
894
00:44:09,939 --> 00:44:13,192
And he came down to
cut my birthday cake
895
00:44:13,192 --> 00:44:15,403
and that was when she met him.
896
00:44:16,904 --> 00:44:20,575
It was a very unusual
time, you know normally
897
00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:23,786
you don't see the president
very often, so in that way
898
00:44:23,786 --> 00:44:26,789
it was unusual to have
that kind of interaction.
899
00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:29,083
After a few days
Evelyn Lieberman
900
00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:31,085
who was the deputy Chief
of Staff at the time
901
00:44:31,085 --> 00:44:34,422
pulled me aside and said I think
you should tell your intern
902
00:44:34,422 --> 00:44:36,174
that she can go
home for the day.
903
00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:39,510
And I was like,
I think, she's like no,
904
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:40,428
I think you should do that.
905
00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:44,932
And so, so I told Monica,
906
00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:48,186
you know look it's Saturday,
you know it's a beautiful day,
907
00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:50,229
you don't need to be here,
and she fought me a little
908
00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:52,565
but she eventually left.
909
00:44:54,567 --> 00:44:58,738
But you know, I didn't
think anything of it
910
00:44:58,738 --> 00:44:59,947
because of course
who would think
911
00:44:59,947 --> 00:45:02,158
that Bill Clinton could
be that stupid, right.
912
00:45:03,659 --> 00:45:05,661
- Bill Clinton, the first
president ever subpoenaed
913
00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:08,164
to testify before a
federal grand jury
914
00:45:08,164 --> 00:45:10,458
in office will do so tomorrow.
915
00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:13,127
He may in the process
become the first leader
916
00:45:13,127 --> 00:45:15,129
in the history of
this republic to admit
917
00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:17,924
to an elicit relationship
with a young coworker
918
00:45:17,924 --> 00:45:19,425
while in office.
919
00:45:19,425 --> 00:45:22,261
- When the president finally
comes around to concluding
920
00:45:22,261 --> 00:45:24,138
that he has to
tell the grand jury
921
00:45:24,138 --> 00:45:26,599
that there had been
a relationship,
922
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:29,644
he goes to his
wife, and fesses up.
923
00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:36,025
- I went and sat on the
bed and talked to her.
924
00:45:36,025 --> 00:45:42,448
I told her exactly what
happened, when it happened,
925
00:45:42,448 --> 00:45:44,617
I said I feel terrible about
it, I said you know we've been
926
00:45:44,617 --> 00:45:46,369
through quite a bit in the
last few years, I told her
927
00:45:46,369 --> 00:45:49,038
I have no defense, this
is inexcusable what I did.
928
00:45:51,624 --> 00:45:58,172
- I was just devastated,
I could not believe it.
929
00:45:58,172 --> 00:46:05,526
I was so you know,
personally just hurt,
930
00:46:05,526 --> 00:46:08,683
and you know, I
can't believe this,
931
00:46:08,683 --> 00:46:11,644
I can't believe you lied,
932
00:46:11,644 --> 00:46:17,233
you know it just
anyway was horrible.
933
00:46:17,233 --> 00:46:20,861
And I said if this
is gonna be public,
934
00:46:20,861 --> 00:46:23,072
you have got to go tell Chelsea.
935
00:46:23,072 --> 00:46:26,325
- She said well you have
to go tell your daughter,
936
00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:30,037
she said that's worse than me.
937
00:46:30,037 --> 00:46:33,541
And so I did that.
938
00:46:33,541 --> 00:46:38,526
Which was awful.
939
00:46:38,526 --> 00:46:45,469
Justifiably,
what I did was wrong.
940
00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:47,471
I just hated to hurt her.
941
00:46:54,061 --> 00:46:59,025
But you know, we all
bring our baggage to life
942
00:46:59,025 --> 00:47:03,446
and sometimes we do
things you shouldn't do,
943
00:47:03,446 --> 00:47:07,848
and it was awful what I did.
944
00:47:07,848 --> 00:47:09,577
Five seconds.
945
00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:17,918
- Good evening.
946
00:47:17,918 --> 00:47:21,088
This afternoon in this
room, from this chair,
947
00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:24,008
I testified before the
Office of Independent Counsel
948
00:47:24,008 --> 00:47:26,344
and the grand jury.
949
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,014
I answered their questions
truthfully, including questions
950
00:47:30,014 --> 00:47:33,768
about my private life,
questions no American citizen
951
00:47:33,768 --> 00:47:35,816
would ever want to answer.
952
00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:39,106
Indeed, I did have a
relationship with Ms. Lewinsky
953
00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:41,150
that was not appropriate.
954
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:43,652
In fact, it was wrong.
955
00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:45,988
It constituted a critical
lapse in judgment
956
00:47:45,988 --> 00:47:50,242
and a personal failure on my
part for which I am solely
957
00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:52,139
and completely responsible.
958
00:47:52,139 --> 00:47:53,760
Why
do you think you took
959
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,332
that risk with your
marriage and your child
960
00:47:56,332 --> 00:47:59,293
and your country, what do you--
961
00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:00,795
When you look back--
962
00:48:00,795 --> 00:48:02,797
- Nobody thinks about that,
nobody thinks I'm taking a risk,
963
00:48:02,797 --> 00:48:05,558
that's not why people
do stupid things.
964
00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:08,386
That's not what happened,
nobody sits down
965
00:48:08,386 --> 00:48:11,722
and thinks I think I'll take
a really irresponsible risk.
966
00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:13,891
It's bad for my family,
it's bad for my country,
967
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,309
bad for the people
who work with me,
968
00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:17,895
that's not what happened.
969
00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:22,483
That you you feel like
you're staggering around
970
00:48:22,483 --> 00:48:26,862
and you've been in a
15 round prize fight
971
00:48:26,862 --> 00:48:28,823
that was extended to 30 rounds.
972
00:48:30,282 --> 00:48:33,369
And here's something that
will take your mind off it
973
00:48:33,369 --> 00:48:35,871
for a while, that's
what happened.
974
00:48:37,706 --> 00:48:42,336
Because there, whatever
life, not just me,
975
00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:47,174
everybody's life has
pressures and disappointment
976
00:48:47,174 --> 00:48:51,971
and terrors, fears of whatever.
977
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:59,186
Things I did to manage
my anxiety for years,
978
00:48:59,186 --> 00:49:01,897
I'm a different, totally
different person than I was,
979
00:49:03,065 --> 00:49:05,734
a lot of that stuff,
you know 20 years ago,
980
00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:09,238
maybe it's just getting older,
but I hope it was also
981
00:49:09,238 --> 00:49:11,490
going through a lot of
this but whatever.
982
00:49:16,245 --> 00:49:19,748
But I did it, it was bad,
but it wasn't like I thought,
983
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:21,959
let's see how can I think
about the most stupid thing
984
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,992
I could possibly do and do it.
985
00:49:26,547 --> 00:49:31,886
It's not a defense, it's an
explanation, it was awful.
986
00:49:31,886 --> 00:49:33,893
And I feel terrible about the--
987
00:49:37,641 --> 00:49:39,643
- The president's
extraordinary speech tonight
988
00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:41,812
could have a huge
impact on the country.
989
00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:43,272
He has lied
to the American people
990
00:49:43,272 --> 00:49:44,857
for seven and a half months.
991
00:49:44,857 --> 00:49:47,401
He let down his
family, he let down the country.
992
00:49:47,401 --> 00:49:50,446
The morning after,
people are wondering--
993
00:49:50,446 --> 00:49:53,494
- I wanna get away, I want
to get out of Washington.
994
00:49:53,494 --> 00:49:56,577
We did have plans to go
to Martha's vineyard.
995
00:49:56,577 --> 00:49:58,954
I had some really
good friends there.
996
00:50:01,916 --> 00:50:05,085
Chelsea put herself between
us and held both our hands,
997
00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:10,090
that was not anything
other than her just
998
00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:12,105
trying to keep us together.
999
00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:20,518
And when she did that
my gosh, I thought,
1000
00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:25,564
that's just that's
just so incredible.
1001
00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:30,236
So strong and so wise.
1002
00:50:33,572 --> 00:50:36,075
She was filling in
our empty space there.
1003
00:50:37,409 --> 00:50:40,079
The picture is worth
a million words.
1004
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:49,296
There's
a fairly large crowd.
1005
00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:54,260
Now you hear the applause,
and the president emerges
1006
00:50:55,636 --> 00:50:58,472
along with Chelsea and
behind him Hillary Clinton.
1007
00:51:00,558 --> 00:51:03,811
Mr. Clinton
turns 52 tomorrow.
1008
00:51:03,811 --> 00:51:06,647
Normally there is a party
or some sort of celebration
1009
00:51:06,647 --> 00:51:08,274
on the island, the question is
1010
00:51:08,274 --> 00:51:11,527
just how public the
president will be this time.
1011
00:51:12,945 --> 00:51:15,781
I think he and his wife are
keenly aware of the fact
1012
00:51:15,781 --> 00:51:16,699
that they're being watched.
1013
00:51:16,699 --> 00:51:18,158
They're in a glass bowl here.
1014
00:51:19,702 --> 00:51:21,537
- I still didn't talk to him.
1015
00:51:21,537 --> 00:51:24,177
I didn't want anything
to do with him.
1016
00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:27,126
He spent a lot of
time just playing golf
1017
00:51:27,126 --> 00:51:29,962
and talking to a
couple of his friends.
1018
00:51:35,593 --> 00:51:39,930
- I don't even know how in the
world she managed through it,
1019
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:42,683
'cause she had to do
it on the public stage,
1020
00:51:42,683 --> 00:51:47,354
not like a normal person
who has the misfortune
1021
00:51:47,354 --> 00:51:50,211
of going through
something like that.
1022
00:51:51,233 --> 00:51:55,988
Every time they
appeared publicly it was
1023
00:51:55,988 --> 00:51:59,074
are they wearing the wedding
rings, are they holding hands,
1024
00:51:59,074 --> 00:52:02,661
what's the body language,
that's all they analyzed.
1025
00:52:04,246 --> 00:52:06,165
- I can tell you this.
1026
00:52:06,165 --> 00:52:11,211
Insofar as I've ever
known anyone well,
1027
00:52:11,211 --> 00:52:14,340
those two people love
each other, if they didn't
1028
00:52:14,340 --> 00:52:17,843
it would be so much easier.
1029
00:52:17,843 --> 00:52:20,346
- She's been a figure
of controversy,
1030
00:52:20,346 --> 00:52:23,849
which is why her current
standing is so fascinating,
1031
00:52:23,849 --> 00:52:26,894
because now what may be
the low point of her time
1032
00:52:26,894 --> 00:52:28,896
in the White House,
public approval
1033
00:52:28,896 --> 00:52:31,774
for Mrs. Clinton has
never been higher.
1034
00:52:31,774 --> 00:52:35,069
But even as a victim, Mrs.
Clinton, still raises doubts.
1035
00:52:35,069 --> 00:52:38,906
In the latest ABC news
poll, 79 percent say
1036
00:52:38,906 --> 00:52:42,117
they think she's known
about the affair for months.
1037
00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:48,874
- I think people don't
really understand what,
1038
00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:53,253
how hurt she has been
personally by him, you know
1039
00:52:53,253 --> 00:52:57,091
in the Monica Lewinsky case,
it's because she's so smart
1040
00:52:57,091 --> 00:53:00,427
people always believe
there is some deviousness,
1041
00:53:00,427 --> 00:53:03,389
that she must have known about
Monica Lewinsky all along,
1042
00:53:03,389 --> 00:53:06,600
and been out there
lying to protect him.
1043
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,728
And you know I always thought
that would be so much better
1044
00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:12,064
than the truth that
he really lied to her
1045
00:53:12,064 --> 00:53:16,902
and she really was devastated,
and I think to this day,
1046
00:53:16,902 --> 00:53:18,445
people don't understand that.
1047
00:53:19,905 --> 00:53:22,157
- After investigating the
president for four years,
1048
00:53:22,157 --> 00:53:24,410
Ken Starr's office
has finally delivered
1049
00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:25,994
a report to congress.
1050
00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:28,622
A report that could pose the
most serious impeachment threat
1051
00:53:28,622 --> 00:53:30,958
to a president since
the days of Watergate.
1052
00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:33,919
- They come back from
those couple weeks
1053
00:53:33,919 --> 00:53:38,924
in Martha's Vineyard
and she was,
1054
00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:44,763
a ferocious opponent
of impeachment,
1055
00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:49,768
which wasn't just personal,
it was really her conviction
1056
00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:53,355
about the fact that what
they were doing was wrong
1057
00:53:53,355 --> 00:53:55,691
and they needed to
stand up against it.
1058
00:53:55,691 --> 00:53:58,986
- I had the extra
burden of having been
1059
00:53:58,986 --> 00:54:03,949
on the impeachment
staff back in 1974.
1060
00:54:04,783 --> 00:54:05,993
I had done the research about
1061
00:54:05,993 --> 00:54:08,162
what is a high crime
or misdemeanor.
1062
00:54:08,162 --> 00:54:11,123
I knew what the standards
of impeachment were,
1063
00:54:11,123 --> 00:54:13,876
I knew this did not meet it.
1064
00:54:13,876 --> 00:54:15,919
You know he shouldn't
have done what he did,
1065
00:54:15,919 --> 00:54:18,172
he shouldn't have
tried to hide it,
1066
00:54:18,172 --> 00:54:20,591
but it was not an
impeachable offense.
1067
00:54:21,967 --> 00:54:27,443
- What I always found the
most amazing is that she could
1068
00:54:27,443 --> 00:54:33,312
in her mind, or she chose
to compartmentalize,
1069
00:54:33,312 --> 00:54:37,566
to say I might want
to kill my husband,
1070
00:54:37,566 --> 00:54:42,196
but I don't want the country
to have to lose their president
1071
00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:45,407
because I want to
kill my husband,
1072
00:54:46,408 --> 00:54:47,826
and most people can't do that.
1073
00:54:47,826 --> 00:54:49,077
I couldn't.
1074
00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:51,163
I would have, I know I
would have been small.
1075
00:54:51,163 --> 00:54:53,248
I would have said
you know what, haha.
1076
00:54:54,416 --> 00:54:58,504
You do this to me, I can
take your presidency.
1077
00:54:58,504 --> 00:55:02,799
And I have admired her a lot
for making that hard choice.
1078
00:55:02,799 --> 00:55:07,804
- Once he admitted that he had
lied, I was beyond furious.
1079
00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:12,226
I was crushed, I loved this
man, so believed in him.
1080
00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:14,061
And really thought
about quitting.
1081
00:55:15,479 --> 00:55:18,857
And not longer after,
I said I would.
1082
00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:22,361
And within minutes, I got
a call from the first lady,
1083
00:55:22,361 --> 00:55:25,697
she said I'm not quitting,
you're not quitting.
1084
00:55:28,450 --> 00:55:30,077
That really meant a lot.
1085
00:55:30,077 --> 00:55:32,871
And I thought I gotta
get out of my own head
1086
00:55:32,871 --> 00:55:35,040
and realize there's a
lot more at stake here.
1087
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,959
I swore an oath to
the Constitution,
1088
00:55:36,959 --> 00:55:38,335
not to Bill Clinton
1089
00:55:39,002 --> 00:55:40,879
and I thought it was
a very easy call then,
1090
00:55:40,879 --> 00:55:43,006
because it didn't merit
impeachment at all.
1091
00:55:44,424 --> 00:55:45,884
The gavel falls
on this historic debate
1092
00:55:45,884 --> 00:55:48,554
to begin impeachment hearings
for only the third time
1093
00:55:48,554 --> 00:55:49,846
in our nation's history.
1094
00:55:49,846 --> 00:55:51,265
This time against
President Bill Clinton.
1095
00:55:51,265 --> 00:55:53,016
- I was carrying on my schedule,
1096
00:55:53,016 --> 00:55:55,769
because I felt it was
important, I didn't want,
1097
00:55:55,769 --> 00:55:59,982
I didn't want to frankly be
portrayed any more as a victim
1098
00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:03,277
than the situation called for.
1099
00:56:03,277 --> 00:56:06,613
So, I was getting up
every day and going out
1100
00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:08,574
and doing what I could.
1101
00:56:08,574 --> 00:56:12,327
- At that point, her
approval ratings are
1102
00:56:12,327 --> 00:56:13,912
as high as they have ever been.
1103
00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:19,793
So come the fall in what
should be a really difficult
1104
00:56:19,793 --> 00:56:21,962
midterm election
for the Democrats,
1105
00:56:21,962 --> 00:56:25,591
Hillary Clinton is suddenly
the most sought after,
1106
00:56:25,591 --> 00:56:29,636
surrogate speaker for
Democrats around the country.
1107
00:56:29,636 --> 00:56:31,972
- Well I certainly feel welcome.
1108
00:56:31,972 --> 00:56:33,473
Bill
Clinton is too toxic
1109
00:56:33,473 --> 00:56:36,560
to leave the White House,
but every member of congress
1110
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,646
wants Hillary in their
district campaigning for them.
1111
00:56:39,646 --> 00:56:41,273
- Thank you!
1112
00:56:41,273 --> 00:56:44,192
And then the election
came, and Democrats won.
1113
00:56:44,192 --> 00:56:45,819
- The American
political landscape
1114
00:56:45,819 --> 00:56:47,154
looks a good deal
different tonight
1115
00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:49,489
than it did just 24 hours ago.
1116
00:56:49,489 --> 00:56:50,949
Defying history
1117
00:56:50,949 --> 00:56:54,453
and what a lot of people
expected, Democrats make gains
1118
00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:56,288
and declare a major victory.
1119
00:56:56,288 --> 00:56:58,040
- We gained seats, no
one had ever done that,
1120
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,125
it's impossible, and we did.
1121
00:57:00,125 --> 00:57:02,669
Not because people thought
it was a really good idea
1122
00:57:02,669 --> 00:57:07,090
to have this really
inappropriate affair,
1123
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:11,762
but because they thought
the response was crazy,
1124
00:57:11,762 --> 00:57:14,014
and they wanted to send a
message hey cut that crap out.
1125
00:57:14,014 --> 00:57:16,767
And they didn't like Ken
Starr and Newt Gingrich trying
1126
00:57:16,767 --> 00:57:21,813
to overturn a national election
for something like that.
1127
00:57:22,814 --> 00:57:24,358
- Today the impeachment
hearings began
1128
00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:27,069
and the star witness is Ken
Starr and today he will say
1129
00:57:27,069 --> 00:57:28,987
for the first time
that the president
1130
00:57:28,987 --> 00:57:30,697
did not commit
impeachable offenses
1131
00:57:30,697 --> 00:57:34,076
in the Whitewater Filegate
and Travelgate investigation.
1132
00:57:34,076 --> 00:57:37,579
- After the congressional
election, Starr sent a report
1133
00:57:37,579 --> 00:57:41,500
to congress and said by the
way, in addition to arguing
1134
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:44,044
that he should be impeached
because of Lewinsky,
1135
00:57:44,044 --> 00:57:46,546
we wanna report that with
regard to Whitewater,
1136
00:57:46,546 --> 00:57:50,509
we found nothing abusive,
nothing whatsoever.
1137
00:57:50,509 --> 00:57:53,720
- Judge Starr, you did
release what amounts
1138
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,390
to an exoneration of the
president with respect
1139
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:59,226
to the Vince Foster
matter, is that correct?
1140
00:57:59,226 --> 00:58:01,978
- Yes, with respect
to the cause of death,
1141
00:58:01,978 --> 00:58:04,523
it was a suicide by Mr. Foster.
1142
00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:07,442
- You felt comfortable in
exonerating the president.
1143
00:58:07,442 --> 00:58:08,568
Yes.
1144
00:58:08,568 --> 00:58:11,196
- I was on that
committee, Kenneth Starr
1145
00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:14,199
exonerated the Clintons on
everything but Lewinsky.
1146
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:16,952
- You tell us that months
ago, you concluded that no,
1147
00:58:16,952 --> 00:58:19,371
that the president was not
involved in the FBI files,
1148
00:58:19,371 --> 00:58:20,872
and you've never had any
evidence he was involved
1149
00:58:20,872 --> 00:58:23,458
in the travel office,
yet now several weeks
1150
00:58:23,458 --> 00:58:25,585
after the election is the
first time you're saying that.
1151
00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:28,505
- They were a little
embarrassed to say politically
1152
00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:30,048
that they were going to
impeach the president
1153
00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:31,550
purely because of the sex.
1154
00:58:31,550 --> 00:58:34,428
They wanted to say that there
was a pattern of corruption.
1155
00:58:34,428 --> 00:58:36,430
Well there was no
pattern of corruption.
1156
00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:41,017
- After endless
suspicion and hunting,
1157
00:58:41,017 --> 00:58:43,770
Ken Starr never alleged
any criminal wrongdoing
1158
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:46,148
by either Bill or Hillary
Clinton in connection
1159
00:58:46,148 --> 00:58:47,566
with Whitewater,
and in connection
1160
00:58:47,566 --> 00:58:49,568
with any of the
different investigations.
1161
00:58:49,568 --> 00:58:51,611
- Good evening, well
after all of this,
1162
00:58:51,611 --> 00:58:54,906
more than a year
of sex, lies, and videotape,
1163
00:58:54,906 --> 00:58:57,325
the second impeachment
trial of an American president
1164
00:58:57,325 --> 00:59:01,288
ended today and the
vote wasn't even close.
1165
00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:02,497
Not guilty.
1166
00:59:02,497 --> 00:59:04,249
- The said William
Jefferson Clinton be
1167
00:59:04,249 --> 00:59:08,545
and hereby is acquitted of the
charges in the said articles.
1168
00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:13,008
- It is important to me that
everybody who has been hurt
1169
00:59:13,008 --> 00:59:17,637
know that the sorrow
I feel is genuine.
1170
00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:22,976
First and most important
my family, also my friends,
1171
00:59:22,976 --> 00:59:29,149
my staff, my cabinet, Monica
Lewinsky and her family.
1172
00:59:29,149 --> 00:59:32,277
- I defended and stood
by him because I thought
1173
00:59:32,277 --> 00:59:33,695
the impeachment
process was wrong,
1174
00:59:33,695 --> 00:59:38,325
but that wasn't the necessary
answer to what I would do
1175
00:59:38,325 --> 00:59:41,953
with my marriage, it
was not to me the same.
1176
00:59:41,953 --> 00:59:45,290
I still had to decide, you
know whether I wanted to stay
1177
00:59:45,290 --> 00:59:48,293
in the marriage, whether I
thought it was worth saving.
1178
00:59:50,337 --> 00:59:54,841
We saw a counselor, I mean
painful, painful discussions.
1179
00:59:56,301 --> 00:59:57,761
The counseling was
one of the hardest things
1180
00:59:57,761 --> 00:59:58,762
I've ever had to do.
1181
01:00:00,180 --> 01:00:02,140
But it was necessary,
1182
01:00:03,058 --> 01:00:04,059
- She deserved it.
1183
01:00:05,268 --> 01:00:07,103
Chelsea deserved
it and I needed it.
1184
01:00:10,732 --> 01:00:13,235
I feel terrible
about the fact that
1185
01:00:13,235 --> 01:00:16,029
Monica Lewinsky's life
was defined by it,
1186
01:00:16,029 --> 01:00:19,074
unfairly, I think.
1187
01:00:19,074 --> 01:00:20,909
You know, over the
years, I've watched her
1188
01:00:20,909 --> 01:00:24,329
trying to get a normal
life back again.
1189
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:28,375
But you gotta decide
1190
01:00:28,375 --> 01:00:31,002
how to define normal.
1191
01:00:34,297 --> 01:00:38,510
- I made a decision to
stay with my husband.
1192
01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:44,641
Look, I think that some people
1193
01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:46,142
thought I'd made
the right decision
1194
01:00:46,142 --> 01:00:48,144
and some people thought I
made the wrong decision.
1195
01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:52,023
And so I have gotten both
1196
01:00:52,023 --> 01:00:56,444
affirmation and
1197
01:00:56,444 --> 01:00:59,865
criticism for the
decision I made.
1198
01:00:59,865 --> 01:01:02,534
And that was true, you know,
1199
01:01:02,534 --> 01:01:04,369
from the very beginning
1200
01:01:04,369 --> 01:01:06,580
of deciding that.
1201
01:01:06,580 --> 01:01:09,958
And you know, it's a
funny time we live in.
1202
01:01:09,958 --> 01:01:12,419
The kind of public
opinion shifts,
1203
01:01:12,419 --> 01:01:17,007
and people say, "So noble
she stayed in the marriage,"
1204
01:01:17,007 --> 01:01:20,594
to, "It's so...
1205
01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:23,763
incomprehensible that she
stayed in the marriage."
1206
01:01:23,763 --> 01:01:27,183
You know that there's forces
at work in the society
1207
01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:29,352
that people are working
through themselves.
1208
01:01:31,688 --> 01:01:35,275
- I was so grateful that she
1209
01:01:35,275 --> 01:01:39,308
thought we still had
enough to stick it out.
1210
01:01:42,537 --> 01:01:45,327
God knows the burden
she paid for that.
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