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I'll
make you look,
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I want to make you
look beautiful--
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Look in the,
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where do you
want to look, okay?
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Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
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Just all of
our people,
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our phones are all on stun?
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Yes.
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For a woman who
grew up not seeming to care
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what she looked like
is this.
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- It's a burden, believe me.
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- What?
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- 60 seconds.
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- 60 seconds?
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Practically every day,
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started with me doing
hair and makeup.
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There were 600 days give
or take in the campaign.
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And it was an hour
to an hour to a half,
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so being really conservative,
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say an hour to do
hair and makeup.
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I calculated it and
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I spent 25 days doing
hair and makeup.
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And I knew that the men
I was running against,
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didn't have to do any of that.
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Get up, take a shower,
shake their head,
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they were ready to go.
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I wanna slop
it under your eye.
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- This is what I have
to put up with.
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- That's the real prep.
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All right.
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- Are you set Huma?
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- Yeah, I'm done.
- Yeah, yeah.
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- I'm good, okay.
-Thank you.
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- Good, good.
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- I think it looks good.
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- Well, you can start
buttoned and then you know,
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when you get wound up,
you can unbutton.
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Honestly, Bernie
just drove me crazy.
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He was in Congress
for years, years,
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he had one Senator support him.
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Nobody likes him,
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Nobody wants to work with him.
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He got nothing done.
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He was a career politician.
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He did not work
until he was like 41,
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and then he got
elected to something.
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It was all just bologna and
I feel so bad that people
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got sucked into it.
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- Our topic is Wall Street
for those just joining us.
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- I've laid out a
very aggressive plan
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to reign in Wall Street.
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Not
good enough.
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Why over her political career,
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has Wall Street been
a major, the major
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campaign contributor
to Hillary Clinton?
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Now maybe their dumb and
they don't know what they're
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gonna get, but I don't think so.
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John, John, wait a
minute, wait a minute.
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Look, he has basically, he has
basically used his answer to
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impune my integrity.
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Let's be frank here.
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SEN. SANDERS No, I did not.
-Wait a minute Senator.
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- Bernie was getting
increasingly negative
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towards Hillary.
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What he did was go out there
everyday and basically say,
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Hillary Clinton is corrupt.
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Over and over and over again.
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The latest poll
among likely caucus goers
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in Iowa showing Sanders
closing in on Hillary Clinton
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in the Hawkeye state.
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And that has her campaign
admitting they are nervous.
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- Thank you.
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Iowa has never been
particularly receptive to me.
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You know, in 2008,
it was not at all.
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And by 2016, it was tough.
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It was tough in part
because it was so close
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and we were fighting for
every vote and every delegate.
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- I was a huge Bernie
Sanders supporter,
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but now I think you have me
convinced to caucus for you.
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- Thank you.
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That means the world
to me, thank you.
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Our brand new
poll shows Hillary Clinton
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and Bernie Sanders locked
in a virtual tie in Iowa.
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Hillary
Clinton and Bernie Sanders,
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they are clearly in a
close race right now.
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First of all, what we
see on the republican.
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Fuck!
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We all lost.
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I lost!
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She's up again.
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Once
inevitable Hillary Clinton
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neck and neck right now with
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders.
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Is that race still
too close to project?
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We have team coverage on that.
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- This is a nail biter.
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So we gotta think
what we're gonna do.
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Think about how
we're gonna play it,
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what we're gonna say,
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when we're gonna do whatever
it is we're gonna do.
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Well, we started
telling people
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in the background.
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- What?
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- Yeah, well, but we have
to decide if we're gonna
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go out and say that, even
though everything's not in.
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And you know, what the
consequences of that are,
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if we go out, we say
it, and then you know,
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we end up behind.
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Right.
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- I just don't want him
to get out and claim
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the revolution is working,
people felt the burn,
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we're on the way,
we're gonna win this,
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that's what if I were he.
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He's gonna do that.
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- That's what I,
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he should do it.
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This is gonna be like
a half a point either way,
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so it's not just gonna
change fundamentally.
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Okay, let's
figure it out.
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So, I'm just
gonna drop one second,
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'cause it's gotten ...
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Closer.
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He's basically
her but what's top of mind,
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what has her pacing
up and down the hall
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is she doesn't
want him out first.
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They said he was gonna
call, which obviously,
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we're holding the phone.
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I mean, they said
he was gonna call,
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that hasn't happened.
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She's just gonna freak out.
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This thing,
it's just so close.
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I think we just, if he's ...
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We believe he's
gonna go out before 11 P. M.
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And say he declared victory,
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whether he wins or not.
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Right, he's just done so
well that he's gonna--
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So she should
go speak right now.
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We, she
should go right now.
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- Let's go!
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All right, let's go.
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- What a night, an
unbelievable night!
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Breathing a big sigh of relief.
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Thank you Iowa.
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Okay.
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But it's that much.
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It's a win.
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Hey guys,
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we're gonna take off
to New Hampshire,
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we gotta go.
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Yeah, I got it.
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Go Hillary, yeah!
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Okay, here we go.
Thank you!
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After beating
Bernie Sanders in Iowa,
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by a razor thin margin,
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Hillary Clinton has come
to the granite state
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as the underdog trailing
Sanders by 18 points.
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- The mood was really bleak
in those days in New Hampshire
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right after Iowa.
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Many critics,
and even some democrats
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who are on the fence
about voting for you say
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they don't trust you.
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- They do not believe
that you are honest.
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They have issues with
your trustworthiness.
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- We don't trust her.
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Okay.
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- I think it really drove
the Clinton campaign crazy
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that she was the first
woman to win the Iowa caucus
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and it was like it
didn't even happen.
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I mean, everybody just talked
about how well Bernie did.
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- And there she is in Bernie's
backyard in New Hampshire
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knowing that she's
gonna lose by a lot.
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- You know, when you
know you're gonna lose,
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it's really hard to campaign.
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This is my favorite part
of any kind of campaign.
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- No, I don't want to!
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I don't want to.
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It's
a lot happening.
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- I know, it's pretty okay.
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I feel that way a lot.
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Thank you so much.
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- You know, I just
gutted it out.
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You've got about
20 seconds here guys.
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- She very much wanted to go
on an offense against Bernie.
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If you're out there on the
campaign trail everyday,
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and you're opponent is
saying you're corrupt,
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you're in the pocket
of corporate interests.
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She wanted to stand
up and defend herself.
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There is this
attack that he is putting forth.
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Which really comes down to
anybody who ever took donations
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or speaking fees from
any interest group,
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has to be bought.
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And I just absolutely
reject that Senator.
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And enough is enough.
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It's time to end the very
artful smear that you and your
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campaign have been carrying
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out in recent weeks and
let's talk about the issues.
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Let's talk about the
issues that divide us.
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Let's
talk about issues.
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Let's
talk about issues.
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- Senator Sanders,
Secretary Clinton,
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obviously, we've
touched a nerve.
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- I think it's good.
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I think she's been killing,
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she's getting her point across.
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Good for calling him
out on the insinuation.
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- Next question here
for Secretary Clinton,
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it's addressed to you.
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And it's about this
issue of the speeches,
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particularly to Goldman Sachs.
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She asked whether you would
release the transcripts
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of your Goldman Sachs speeches.
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Don't you think the voting
public has a right to know
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what was said?
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But let's make that bigger.
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Are you willing to release
the transcripts of all
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your paid speeches?
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Would you release all of them?
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- I will look into it.
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I don't know the status but I
will certainly look into it.
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- You have a whole
fucking two hour debate
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that's all just gonna be fuckin'
where's your transcripts?
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Yeah, agreed.
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- Man.
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She has no idea.
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Why would she know?
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That's what I
said earlier today, Brian.
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Why during the debates
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when you were asked to
release the transcripts
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of the Wall Street speeches,
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why did you not want to do it?
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- You know I wanted to force
him to release his tax returns.
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So I made it a trade.
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You release your speeches,
we'll release our speeches.
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You release your tax returns,
we'll release our speeches.
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And maybe, I dug my
heels in thinking,
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you know, this is ridiculous.
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- Like what are we doing
when she's having to release
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all our shit, enough!
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- This is like, in
all seriousness,
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I think there's some
legitimate reporters
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that would say, fine.
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But for $200,000 for
a couple of hours,
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it's not crazy to say,
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"What exactly did you say?".
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- I made speeches to
the Camping Association.
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I made speeches to Doctors.
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I made, that's how I made
some money when I got out of
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being in the State Department.
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I didn't go on somebody's board.
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I didn't sign up to
lobby for somebody.
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I didn't take one
of these phony jobs,
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where you're fronting
for a corporation.
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I didn't do any of that.
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I gave a speech for an hour.
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And they paid me.
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- You know if you live your
life worrying about optics
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too much, it can consume you.
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And you become this, you get
yourself tied up in knots.
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But she's giving speeches
to Wall Street at time
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when they had gotten federal
money to bail them out.
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To put yourself in a
position to be seen
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as being too close to
them was a mistake.
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- It's a fundamental
thing, the Clintons.
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She thinks I can't be
corrupted or compromised
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because of a speech.
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There is this sense that she
knows that she is an ethic
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and moral righteous
person and therefore,
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if she decided this
is an okay thing to do
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then it's okay.
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And anybody who criticizes
it must be doing so
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for illegitimate reasons.
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Because they're partisan,
they're enemies.
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She's a very, she's
supremely confident
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in her own righteousness.
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And that can blind anyone.
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That could trip anybody up.
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Thank you
for supporting us.
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I just spoke.
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- Thank you, I'm grateful.
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- A divided household.
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- You'll come to the right side.
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In November.
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How are you?
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- When we lost by 22 points
it really settled in,
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this was going to be a slog.
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The primary season was not
going to be a short path
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to the nomination.
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It was going to be a
grind, primary by primary,
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caucus by caucus.
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And we were already tired.
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- Just call him now.
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Huma worked out
with them that--
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We are.
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- The difference in this race.
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I was like is this what
2008 felt like, Huma?
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She said, yeah.
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This is what it felt like.
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We're gonna lose.
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She and John were
like, we're gonna lose.
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We're going to lose
the democratic primary.
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Bernie Sanders is gonna
be the democratic nominee.
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- You guys could not have
been more supportive.
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You guys did
everything you could.
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We got hit by a gale force wind.
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- Did you feel that this
election was different
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than any that you had
participated in before?
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Or did you feel it was it
on a different level even
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than your '92 election.
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- My '92 election, and
the '92 election was,
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it was a popular selection,
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but it wasn't insane.
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But it was more about
positive populism.
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- Bill had served five
terms as Governor.
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And was thinking
about the Presidency.
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Anybody who knew him, knew
he would do it eventually.
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It was just a question of
what was the best timing.
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And when everybody thought
after the first Gulf War,
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that George H. W. Bush was
absolutely unbeatable.
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I thought he could be beaten.
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The economy was shaky.
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Debt was rising.
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There were pieces of
the American dream
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that were battered.
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- I got a call from a guy I
knew in Bush's White House.
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And he said, you
don't wanna run now,
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just wait til '96
and you'll win.
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- And he basically said to Bill,
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We've looked at the field
and we think we can beat
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everybody but we think you'd
be the hardest to beat.
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And I am authorized
to tell you
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that it's our advise to you
that you not run.
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That you wait and you
run in four years.
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But if you do run,
we will destroy you.
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- He said this is the
way Washington works.
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The press has to have
someone at every election.
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And we're gonna give 'em you.
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We're gonna fill those their
heads full of so much stuff
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you won't believe it.
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And you will not survive it.
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We're gonna take you out
and we're gonna do it early.
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So I told Hillary about it.
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I said, you realize what
this means don't you.
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They will keep their word.
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And they will make
our lives miserable.
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And they will do things
we can't even imagine.
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Well, she said, if you can
be bullied out of the race,
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you have no business
being president.
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- And I basically said,
well, they clearly think
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you can beat him, so
you gotta run now.
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- For 12 years, the
republicans have tried
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to divide us.
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They want us to be angry at
each other so we won't be
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mad at them.
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They want us to look at each
other across a racial divide,
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fixated on one another so
we cannot turn our heads
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and look to the
White House and say,
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why are all our
incomes going down?
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What is happening
to all of our jobs?
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Why are we all
losing our future?
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I believe that together we
can make America great again.
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And that is why today, I
proudly announce my candidacy
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for President of the
United States of America.
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- It seemed to me that
he was the most liberal,
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electable candidate.
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And I was very
impressed with Hillary.
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It was clear that she
would play much more than
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a ceremonial spousal role.
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- We believe in this country
and we cannot stand by
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for one more year and watch
what is happening to it.
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- She was in need of
a press secretary.
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Traditionally, in
politics in those days,
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you were always aspiring to be
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the press secretary
to the candidate.
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And I thought, this
is really different.
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- Yes!
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- She wasn't only a surrogate.
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She was involved in the
strategy of the campaign.
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Those who
know her best say she has an
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uncommonly good sense
of political strategy.
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When to push, when to
wait, who to trust,
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who to pressure.
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- She's critical
to the campaign.
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We often joke that our
campaign slogan should be,
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buy one, get one free.
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It was true that she
had been a full partner
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in what I did as Governor.
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That the voters were
fully aware of it,
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and fully, they will
vote for or against it
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if they didn't want to.
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So the Clinton's
are running as a team.
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And reporters frequently
hear people in the crowd
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say they think the wrong
Clinton is running.
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- Why aren't you running?
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- There is a draft
Hillary movement.
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You know that.
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- I remember rallies and just
all of these young women.
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They went out and it was
like it's Hillary.
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She's been an
activist for children's issues
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and is a successful lawyer,
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she makes three times
as much as her husband.
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- Her coming onto the
public stage really brought
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to the forefront feminism
and women's roles in society.
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- I am who I am.
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I'm not about to change who
I am or what I have been
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for all my life.
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We need an end to the
politics of abortion.
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We oughta give women the
kind of support they need
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to support themselves,
their families,
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and be full
functioning citizens.
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- She was that Rorschach
Test for that discussion
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in every household about,
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what is the role of
women in our society
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and should the have careers?
Or should they not have careers?
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Or should they stay
home and raise families?
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- She very much became a
symbol, a cultural symbol.
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We didn't hide that
light under a bushel.
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We shone a light on her
because I just thought
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she was the most impressive
person I'd ever met in my life.
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Like this is great.
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And from the first
day of the campaign,
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she was absolutely
central to the strategy
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but also to the execution
and the survival
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when we were in trouble.
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- Yes, I was Bill Clinton's
lover for 12 years.
425
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And for the past two years
I have lied to the press
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about our relationship
to protect him.
427
00:21:14,648 --> 00:21:17,067
The truth is, I loved him.
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00:21:18,527 --> 00:21:19,987
Allegations
of infidelity have dogged
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Bill Clinton for some time.
430
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- Have you ever had an
extramarital affair Governor?
431
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- If I had,
I wouldn't tell you.
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It was all
over the tabloids.
433
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Bill Clinton,
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who I guess was the front
runner of the democrats,
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is in a little trouble here.
436
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Stories about
their relationship,
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his extra-curricular
activities, it was crazy.
438
00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:43,052
- Everybody had heard the
rumors about Bill Clinton.
439
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And everybody wondered, how
Hillary Clinton dealt with it.
440
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Did you ever
discuss it with Hillary
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or was it too much?
442
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- Nope.
443
00:21:52,978 --> 00:21:54,688
- And she never brought it up?
444
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- No, she doesn't,
she is not a confider.
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Let me just tell you.
446
00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:04,698
- I think that we were,
by no means, perfect.
447
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We had challenges like any
married couple would have.
448
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I'm not gonna go any
further than that.
449
00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:13,958
In our Clinton world,
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there was always a question.
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Not had he been
faithful to his wife?
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He'd already told
us he hadn't been.
453
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But were these stories true?
454
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And frankly, to this day,
I don't know what's true,
455
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and what isn't true.
456
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Do you have any
comments about the allegations
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from Gennifer Flowers?
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- There were hundred of
reporters, camera crews,
459
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,855
and boom microphones and
camera men back peddling
460
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and falling into each other,
461
00:22:37,106 --> 00:22:40,067
and she had this look
of a trapped animal.
462
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She was being hunted for
some kind of response.
463
00:22:46,949 --> 00:22:48,242
- I am a private person.
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But I think it's important
to be a private person
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if you're in the public arena.
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Because the crushing intensity
of total wall to wall
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coverage, the expectation
that you share
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your innermost
feelings with people.
469
00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:10,806
Is there anything left
if you've basically lived
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everything out in public?
471
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,311
- We wanted him to answer it.
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Not to disparage anyone else.
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But to simply say, here's
why we're gonna persevere.
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CBS said, we'll create a
special edition of 60 minutes,
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butted up
against the Super Bowl.
476
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The biggest audience possible.
477
00:23:32,703 --> 00:23:35,456
- It was ridiculous to me.
478
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It was a decision that
the campaign made,
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that it would make sense.
480
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I thought it was a big
invasion of our privacy.
481
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I didn't understand
why we would do it.
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Bill decided to it.
483
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So I said, okay, I'll do it.
484
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- I think most American's
would agree that it's very
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admirable that you
have stayed together,
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that you worked
your problems out,
487
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that you seem to have reached
some sort of an understanding
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and an arrangement.
489
00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:06,820
- Wait a minute, wait a
minute, wait a minute,
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you're looking at two
people who love each other.
491
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This is not an arrangement
or an understanding,
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this is a marriage.
493
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That's a very different thing.
494
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- I'm not sitting here
some little woman standing
495
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by my man like Tammy Wynette.
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I'm sitting here
because I love him
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and I respect him, and I
honor what he's been through
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and what we've been
through together.
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And you know if that's
not enough for people,
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then, heck, don't vote for him.
501
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- If she's not there,
sitting next to him,
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validating him, that's the end.
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And instead, she's
telling the public, look,
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whatever problems we've
had in our marriage,
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I've dealt with them.
506
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Therefore, you don't
need to worry about them
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and that was enough.
508
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But it set a marker
for where she would
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be for years to come.
510
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The person who was constantly
required to forgive
511
00:24:58,247 --> 00:25:02,001
and prop up a husband no
matter how many things
512
00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:03,752
he had done to hurt her.
513
00:25:03,752 --> 00:25:07,089
And later in American life,
514
00:25:07,089 --> 00:25:10,926
we would rethink that
kind of role for a spouse.
515
00:25:10,926 --> 00:25:14,263
But at the time it
was seen as you know
516
00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:17,766
an act of courage on her part.
517
00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:21,228
And a way of to say,
well, we can move on.
518
00:25:24,732 --> 00:25:27,401
- The question of Mr.
Clinton's recent problems
519
00:25:27,401 --> 00:25:30,154
lead you to believe that he
has an electability problem.
520
00:25:30,154 --> 00:25:31,572
- Yeah, I think he's got a
big electability problem.
521
00:25:31,572 --> 00:25:32,489
- Well, what do
you think of this?
522
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:33,991
- I wanna tell you what it is.
523
00:25:33,991 --> 00:25:36,660
It was right in front of
the Washington Post today,
524
00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,829
he is funneling money
to his wife's law firm
525
00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:40,497
for state business.
526
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:41,749
That's number one.
527
00:25:41,749 --> 00:25:43,250
- I don't care what
you say about me,
528
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,711
but you oughta be ashamed
of yourself for jumping
529
00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,212
on my wife.
530
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:48,547
You're not worth being on
the platform as my wife.
531
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:49,715
- Let me tell you
something Mr. Clinton,
532
00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:50,966
don't try to escape it.
533
00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:54,094
- Jerry Brown accused
Hillary of making money
534
00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:55,596
off her Governor husband.
535
00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:57,056
For
years Hillary Clinton,
536
00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,391
named one of the top
lawyers in the country,
537
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,643
says she went to
great lengths to avoid
538
00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:02,811
any conflict of interest.
539
00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:05,481
- She's the only
woman partner there
540
00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:07,191
and the lowest paid
partner.
541
00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:08,901
In part, because
she had insisted
542
00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:10,152
that she not participate
543
00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:12,946
in any profits that
came from doing business
544
00:26:12,946 --> 00:26:14,198
with the state of Arkansas.
545
00:26:14,198 --> 00:26:17,326
Governor, Governor,
546
00:26:17,326 --> 00:26:20,704
what about Jerry Brown's
attack on you ethics?
547
00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:23,540
- Well, he attacked my
wife last night for having
548
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:24,374
a law practice.
549
00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:25,584
That was amazing.
550
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:28,295
And he deliberately
misrepresented the
551
00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:30,094
Washington Post article.
552
00:26:34,635 --> 00:26:36,261
I don't.
553
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:38,263
- Ask her, ask her.
554
00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:40,682
- My firm does a lot of
business ever since I've been
555
00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:44,436
in that firm, I have
not shared in one dollar
556
00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:47,481
of state funds that has
ever, ever gone to my firm.
557
00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:55,441
- I wish that were true,
but it's not. No, no.
558
00:26:56,698 --> 00:26:58,826
You know, I suppose I
could've stayed home
559
00:26:58,826 --> 00:27:00,369
and baked cookies and had teas,
560
00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:03,163
but what I decided to do
as fulfill my profession,
561
00:27:03,163 --> 00:27:05,666
which I entered before my
husband was in public life.
562
00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:09,628
- And I'm watching that off to
the side with Stephanopoulos.
563
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,798
He elbows me in the ribs
and I elbow him in the ribs
564
00:27:12,798 --> 00:27:13,841
and we're.
565
00:27:15,217 --> 00:27:17,469
- And I've tried very,
very hard to be as careful
566
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,680
as possible and that's
all I can tell you.
567
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,889
Thank you.
568
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:22,307
- And I wander over when
the cameras have left.
569
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:23,809
I pulled her aside and I say,
570
00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,394
you know Hillary, they're
gonna kill you for this.
571
00:27:25,394 --> 00:27:27,479
She said, what are
you talking about?
572
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,274
I said, you just said
stay-at-home moms were no good,
573
00:27:30,274 --> 00:27:31,733
and that you
wouldn't want to be.
574
00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,026
She said, no, no, no.
575
00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:35,612
I was just talking about
all the frivolous stuff
576
00:27:35,612 --> 00:27:38,073
that first ladies sometimes
are required to do.
577
00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:40,200
And I said, that's not how
people are gonna hear it.
578
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,369
She said, Paul, my mother
was a stay-at-home mom
579
00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:43,787
and she's my hero.
580
00:27:43,787 --> 00:27:45,539
- I said, that's not
what they are gonna hear.
581
00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:46,957
I can see her.
582
00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:50,168
Was her last moment of true
naivete with the media.
583
00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:51,003
She put her arm around
me and she said,
584
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:54,089
Paulie, you just worry too much.
585
00:27:54,089 --> 00:27:56,258
Nobody's gonna think that.
586
00:27:56,258 --> 00:27:57,676
- I was ready to like her.
587
00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,928
Not now, after what she said.
588
00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:03,098
She obviously doesn't have
respect for what I do.
589
00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:06,768
- The backlash, it took
on a life of it's own.
590
00:28:06,768 --> 00:28:09,396
She has a flippant
attitude about all the women
591
00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:10,731
who stay home.
592
00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:12,566
- She has no use for us,
we have no use for her.
593
00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:14,234
You probably wish
you hadn't said it.
594
00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,820
- Well, I wish what I said
before and what I said after
595
00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:18,322
had all been part
of the sound bite.
596
00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:21,909
But I'm learning that that's
not always what you can expect.
597
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:24,411
Even when I thought I was
trying to reach out and be
598
00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:27,080
as forthcoming as I could.
599
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,499
Or to be kinda reveal myself,
600
00:28:29,499 --> 00:28:32,711
I just felt like I was
running into brick walls
601
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,212
all the time.
602
00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:38,759
I couldn't figure out what
is it they want from me.
603
00:28:39,927 --> 00:28:43,436
- Every time she tried
to break the script,
604
00:28:43,436 --> 00:28:48,984
and be extemporaneous, she
winds up being criticized.
605
00:28:48,984 --> 00:28:50,312
So she stops.
606
00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:53,106
You know it's like a flower
that just keeps on closing down
607
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:54,775
until after a while,
608
00:28:54,775 --> 00:28:56,526
you appear packaged.
609
00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:58,946
- We're at the Palmer
House Hotel in Chicago.
610
00:28:58,946 --> 00:29:01,865
And we'd filmed it for focus
groups to see what was working
611
00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:03,116
and what wasn't.
612
00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:04,701
And when she walked
down the stage,
613
00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:07,120
the dials in the focus
group just went.
614
00:29:07,955 --> 00:29:09,456
Bill looks at it,
615
00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:10,958
takes it in,
616
00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:12,834
and says, "You know, they
just hated her hairstyle
617
00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:14,086
that night."
618
00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,630
Obviously, that
wasn't what it was.
619
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:18,256
It was that she'd just made
this comment about moms.
620
00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:19,675
And he knew that,
621
00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:23,971
but he was not going to
brook any discussion of maybe
622
00:29:23,971 --> 00:29:26,974
her having hurt him,
623
00:29:26,974 --> 00:29:28,517
being as she had just saved him.
624
00:29:28,517 --> 00:29:30,811
- After tea and cookies,
625
00:29:30,811 --> 00:29:32,854
she took a step back and
really thought through
626
00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:36,191
how she was gonna
present herself.
627
00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,902
- We have a little special
something for whoever wins
628
00:29:38,902 --> 00:29:40,737
this bingo game.
629
00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:45,701
B-13, B-13.
630
00:29:45,701 --> 00:29:47,869
- Critics said that
you've been muzzled.
631
00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:51,248
That you've had to tone yourself
down and not be so visible.
632
00:29:51,248 --> 00:29:53,667
Well,
if that's the case,
633
00:29:53,667 --> 00:29:55,127
nobody's told me.
634
00:29:55,127 --> 00:29:57,045
The Clinton
campaign worked very hard
635
00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:59,464
on changing Hillary's
image as the ambitious
636
00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:00,716
yuppie from hell.
637
00:30:00,716 --> 00:30:02,884
Her role, comments
and even her look,
638
00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:04,636
have been moderated lately.
639
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,681
There she was this week,
holding her husbands umbrella.
640
00:30:07,681 --> 00:30:09,891
She has
a new, softer hairdo,
641
00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:12,060
a new best friend, Tipper Gore.
642
00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:13,729
When the wives are
introduced these days
643
00:30:13,729 --> 00:30:16,106
it's to take a
bow and step back.
644
00:30:16,106 --> 00:30:21,028
- Those were decisions that
I made as a way to
645
00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:22,946
you know, eliminate
some of the friction.
646
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,699
But the
damage had been done.
647
00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:29,703
She'd been tagged an elitist
and an ultra-feminist.
648
00:30:29,703 --> 00:30:32,706
- Hillary has compared
marriage and the family
649
00:30:32,706 --> 00:30:38,003
as institutions to slavery and
life on an Indian reservation.
650
00:30:40,756 --> 00:30:45,668
This my friends, this
is radical feminism.
651
00:30:45,668 --> 00:30:48,346
- I'm a little surprised
that they resorted
652
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:50,599
to the attacks on my wife.
653
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:51,975
You know it's almost
as if they were running
654
00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:53,935
for first lady
instead of president.
655
00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:55,520
And it's not really
about Hillary.
656
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,064
What they're trying to
do is to make a thing
657
00:30:57,064 --> 00:30:59,566
against all independent working
women you know trying to run
658
00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:02,819
against them in a way that I
think is really lamentable.
659
00:31:02,819 --> 00:31:04,071
Not just a contest
660
00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:06,156
between Democrats
and Republicans,
661
00:31:06,156 --> 00:31:09,409
this election has become a
referendum on the role of women.
662
00:31:11,912 --> 00:31:13,163
- This has been called
663
00:31:13,163 --> 00:31:14,664
the year of the woman
in American politics.
664
00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:17,375
- This is the year of the woman.
665
00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:19,628
- Well, 1992 was the
Year of the Woman
666
00:31:19,628 --> 00:31:21,713
after the Anita Hill debacle.
667
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,718
- George H. W. Bush
nominated Clarence Thomas
668
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:29,179
and Anita Hill
came forward to say
669
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:31,056
that she had been
sexually harassed by him.
670
00:31:31,056 --> 00:31:33,892
- And then the hearings came.
671
00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:39,564
And I mean most of
us were dumbstruck.
672
00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,400
- Are you a scorned woman?
673
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:45,612
Do you have a martyr complex?
674
00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:48,031
Are you interested
in writing a book?
675
00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:52,536
- Women were watching the
dais full of only men,
676
00:31:52,536 --> 00:31:54,996
you know, grilling this woman.
677
00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:57,707
- You are not
drawing a conclusion
678
00:31:57,707 --> 00:32:00,418
that Judge Thomas
sexually harassed you?
679
00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:02,170
- Yes, I am drawing
that conclusion.
680
00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:03,213
That is my--
- Well then,
681
00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:04,840
I don't understand.
682
00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,718
- The treatment of Anita
Hill sparked such an outrage.
683
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:12,055
- It became an example of
a government administration
684
00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:15,350
that did not hear us, did not
see us, did not respect us.
685
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:17,602
And I think the
tide began to turn.
686
00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:19,938
- There are 11 women
running for US Senate
687
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:23,567
and 107 the most ever
chasing seats in the House.
688
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:26,153
Contributions to
groups that help elect women
689
00:32:26,153 --> 00:32:29,573
have tripled since the Senate's
treatment of Anita Hill.
690
00:32:29,573 --> 00:32:34,077
- Just one week before the
anniversary of the hearings
691
00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:36,663
with Anita Hill and
Clarence Thomas,
692
00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:39,416
don't we seek our revenge?
693
00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,296
When I went to the
Senate in 1986,
694
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:48,258
I was the first Democratic
woman elected in her own right
695
00:32:48,258 --> 00:32:50,594
in all of American history.
696
00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:53,471
Even in 1992 there
were only two women,
697
00:32:53,471 --> 00:32:57,601
Senator Kestenbaum
of Kansas and myself.
698
00:32:57,601 --> 00:32:59,644
We were viewed as novelties.
699
00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:03,356
I mean there was no ladies room.
700
00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:07,277
Is there a gender
revolution waiting to happen?
701
00:33:07,277 --> 00:33:08,486
Can American politics
702
00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:11,615
change so suddenly
and so dramatically?
703
00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,701
- I was thrilled that so
many women were running
704
00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:16,453
and I campaigned
for a bunch of them.
705
00:33:16,453 --> 00:33:17,787
- I think we know
where the energy
706
00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:19,998
in the Democratic Party
in America is today.
707
00:33:21,291 --> 00:33:22,959
I'd be glad to be
on Diane Feinstein
708
00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:25,086
and Barbara Boxer's
coattails any day.
709
00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:27,964
- Any political
practitioner would tell you
710
00:33:27,964 --> 00:33:29,799
maybe you can get
one woman elected.
711
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,094
But the idea to get
two, not possible.
712
00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:36,181
She is
the new senator-elect
713
00:33:36,181 --> 00:33:38,266
Carol Mosely Braun!
714
00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:40,936
- Carol Mosely
Braun of Illinois,
715
00:33:40,936 --> 00:33:43,647
Patty Murray, Washington State,
716
00:33:43,647 --> 00:33:47,067
Barbara Boxer, Diane
Feinstein California.
717
00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:49,819
I felt like I was
walking on the moon.
718
00:33:49,819 --> 00:33:51,738
There are so
many new women in the Senate
719
00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:53,490
that Majority Leader
George Mitchell
720
00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:56,326
ordered their own bathroom
built next to the men's room.
721
00:33:57,535 --> 00:33:58,995
The United
States of America
722
00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:02,082
has a new president tonight
from a new generation.
723
00:34:02,082 --> 00:34:05,210
- I want to begin this
night by thanking my wife
724
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:08,171
who I believe will be one
of the greatest first ladies
725
00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:10,173
in the history of this republic.
726
00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,845
- Hillary Clinton was gonna
be part of this new wave
727
00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,807
of powerful women in Washington.
728
00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:22,519
Women who had ideas that could
define this administration.
729
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,725
- I remember just being almost
730
00:35:43,725 --> 00:35:47,145
in a state of delirious shock.
731
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,605
I'm thrilled and excited.
732
00:35:48,605 --> 00:35:50,190
I'm starting to think,
my gosh, what does this
733
00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:52,692
really mean because when
you're in a campaign
734
00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:54,194
you can't think
about anything else.
735
00:35:54,194 --> 00:35:57,781
You just get up every
day and you get out there
736
00:35:57,781 --> 00:35:59,616
and do your best
to make your case.
737
00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:10,460
The Clinton
campaign has a tough road ahead.
738
00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:13,797
Right now, Senator Bernie
Sanders has more momentum.
739
00:36:13,797 --> 00:36:15,006
And she
really is gonna have to
740
00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,925
kick up her campaign
to another gear.
741
00:36:16,925 --> 00:36:19,594
- I always thought of Hillary
as sort of ahead of her time
742
00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:21,763
and never quite of her time.
743
00:36:21,763 --> 00:36:25,350
During the primary she was
being portrayed as the centrist
744
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,311
cozying up with Wall Street
and I think a wide swath
745
00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:30,814
of the Democratic
electorate didn't realize
746
00:36:30,814 --> 00:36:32,315
that for most of her career
747
00:36:32,315 --> 00:36:35,151
she was like the scary bra
burning feminist liberal.
748
00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:36,861
It's like, you've
spent most of your career
749
00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,071
trying to convince the world
750
00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:39,572
that you're not
this scary liberal
751
00:36:39,572 --> 00:36:41,032
and now you're trying
to convince the world
752
00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:42,992
that you are a liberal.
753
00:36:42,992 --> 00:36:45,245
Yeah, it had to be exasperating.
754
00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:52,127
- At that point in the primary
she's the loser, right.
755
00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,629
And that's it and you
have to live with that.
756
00:36:56,214 --> 00:37:00,385
But she is incredibly
good as an underdog
757
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:04,013
and we marched on to Nevada.
758
00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:05,557
- Hi, everybody.
759
00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:07,225
Happy Valentines Day!
760
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:16,693
- I think she was
running the best
761
00:37:16,693 --> 00:37:18,528
when she was running scared.
762
00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,948
She was like going to the
basement of casinos at midnight
763
00:37:21,948 --> 00:37:25,410
to shake hands with
every maid, every cook.
764
00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:27,537
- Hey Eric, how are you?
765
00:37:27,537 --> 00:37:29,748
Good,
ma'am, how are you?
766
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:31,124
- I don't know.
767
00:37:31,124 --> 00:37:32,625
I'm trying to wake up.
768
00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:37,672
Well, thanks for letting
me barge in at midnight.
769
00:37:38,673 --> 00:37:40,748
Hi!
770
00:37:40,748 --> 00:37:43,219
- How are you?
771
00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:45,096
It's so great to see you.
772
00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:46,556
Hello, hello.
773
00:37:46,556 --> 00:37:48,892
I came to help, I came to help.
774
00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:50,351
I know you're doing a hard job.
775
00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:53,188
- And I also think like these
were her people in Nevada.
776
00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:56,232
These were minimum wage workers,
these were union workers,
777
00:37:56,232 --> 00:37:57,609
these were a lot of women,
778
00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,111
a lot of Latinas, a
lot of immigrants.
779
00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:02,405
And she really connected
with these women.
780
00:38:05,909 --> 00:38:07,744
- So good to see you!
781
00:38:07,744 --> 00:38:12,749
- Hillary!
782
00:38:13,416 --> 00:38:14,459
- Good for you!
783
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,963
- HRC 2016, HRC 2016,
HRC 2016, HRC 2016!
784
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:26,471
HRC!
785
00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:33,228
- When she got to the South,
786
00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:35,480
we knew this was
gonna be the firewall.
787
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,275
It was her base, it
was her coalition.
788
00:38:43,947 --> 00:38:45,865
- This is the day
the Lord has made.
789
00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:49,202
Let us rejoice
and be glad in it.
790
00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:51,538
- Almost every Sunday we
went to a black church
791
00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:53,289
with Hillary Clinton and
this wasn't something
792
00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:55,625
that she just like showed
up ahead of an election.
793
00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,418
These were people who knew her,
794
00:38:57,418 --> 00:38:59,170
who welcomed her back
to their churches
795
00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:02,590
and she was incredibly
comfortable in these settings.
796
00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:07,595
- I don't want to
be the president for
only some Americans.
797
00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:11,683
I want to be the president
for all Americans.
798
00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:14,769
- The Clintons' relationship
with black voters
799
00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:16,646
in the United States
goes back decades.
800
00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:19,148
Bill Clinton was dubbed
the first black president
801
00:39:19,148 --> 00:39:20,400
many years before
802
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,193
there actually was a
first black president.
803
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:25,154
And Hillary Clinton had
relationships with a lot
804
00:39:25,154 --> 00:39:27,907
of the activist
movement leaders.
805
00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:30,410
She knew that if she could
get to South Carolina
806
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:33,329
in decent shape that it
could be a turning point
807
00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:35,415
in her progress
towards the nomination.
808
00:39:35,415 --> 00:39:37,750
We're
gonna do the staff.
809
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:39,502
- Congratulations.
810
00:39:39,502 --> 00:39:40,461
What's
happening now?
811
00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:41,713
- You're winning.
812
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,674
- We're laughing at a
good tweet.
813
00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:46,384
- 75/25 it sounds
like a virtual tie.
814
00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:53,141
- Thank you so much,
South Carolina.
815
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,062
Tomorrow this campaign
goes national.
816
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,568
- It was important that she
had a really big showing
817
00:40:03,568 --> 00:40:06,779
in South Carolina because
it was gonna pivot her
818
00:40:06,779 --> 00:40:09,365
into the Super Tuesday states.
819
00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:12,201
- And some new projections.
820
00:40:12,201 --> 00:40:13,870
- Just in time.
821
00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:15,580
- First of all, CNN
predicts that Donald Trump
822
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:19,626
wins the Alabama Republican
presidential primary.
823
00:40:21,836 --> 00:40:22,670
- Okay.
824
00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:28,259
I think we're winning,
we're winning.
825
00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:29,427
We're winning.
826
00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,849
We are so punch drunk
we have not been,
827
00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:37,018
we have not been
home in two weeks.
828
00:40:37,018 --> 00:40:39,228
- That looks a little giddy.
829
00:40:39,228 --> 00:40:40,813
- Bonnie, we took
you for a week.
830
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:43,983
We took Alexa for a few days
but we've been on the road.
831
00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:45,068
- We've been on the road.
832
00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:46,319
- I know.
833
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:47,487
Five
states are holding
834
00:40:47,487 --> 00:40:49,280
their primaries on March 15th.
835
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,823
They
are the five states
836
00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:52,241
that could decide it all.
837
00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:54,285
Ohio,
Illinois, Missouri,
838
00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:55,828
North Carolina and Florida.
839
00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:57,497
Hillary Clinton's
people are already using
840
00:40:57,497 --> 00:40:59,332
the term nails in coffin.
841
00:41:01,709 --> 00:41:03,211
- I think it all just came in.
842
00:41:04,379 --> 00:41:05,713
- Hold up, hold up, hold up.
843
00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:06,714
- Wait, hold on.
844
00:41:06,714 --> 00:41:07,882
Joyce, what do you know?
845
00:41:09,217 --> 00:41:11,219
Wait, shh, shh.
846
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,533
- That's so great!
847
00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:35,535
Okay, if he's awake.
848
00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:39,038
Wake him up.
849
00:41:41,791 --> 00:41:43,584
- He's probably trying
to call you, Robby.
850
00:41:43,584 --> 00:41:45,086
- I was gonna say.
851
00:41:46,295 --> 00:41:48,297
- What do you mean
only 12,000 votes?
852
00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:50,967
Just a minute, hang on a second.
853
00:42:00,935 --> 00:42:04,689
I just wanted you to share
in our hysteria on the plane.
854
00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:08,067
- CNN and NBC just called it.
855
00:42:08,067 --> 00:42:08,901
- Missouri?
856
00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:14,657
- NBC and CNN just
called Missouri.
857
00:42:14,657 --> 00:42:16,826
- That's a sweep.
858
00:42:16,826 --> 00:42:18,244
- Yep.
- It's a sweep!
859
00:42:18,828 --> 00:42:21,247
Yeah, I know it is
pretty hard to believe.
860
00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:26,377
Why do you
think people say, well,
861
00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:28,713
you know she's so much
different in person
862
00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:29,964
than she is in public?
863
00:42:29,964 --> 00:42:32,008
They don't feel like
they know the real you
864
00:42:32,008 --> 00:42:35,094
or that maybe you're not as
warm as they hear that you are
865
00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:36,345
behind the scenes.
866
00:42:36,345 --> 00:42:38,014
And I'm sure you've
heard a million times--
867
00:42:38,014 --> 00:42:39,515
- Sure.
-The likeability factor.
868
00:42:39,515 --> 00:42:41,851
- Yeah, but they bring
it up with a lot of women.
869
00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:47,857
So, I think there are certainly
reasons personal to me.
870
00:42:48,441 --> 00:42:51,569
I also think though
that my,
871
00:42:53,988 --> 00:42:55,239
my bluntness,
872
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,619
my outspokenness,
873
00:42:59,619 --> 00:43:02,747
my pushback,
874
00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:07,043
all of that creates cognitive
dissonance in people
875
00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:10,797
because I came to
national public attention
876
00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:13,132
as quote a first lady.
877
00:43:13,132 --> 00:43:17,595
And there is a set of
expectations about a first lady
878
00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:20,973
and I violated them, you
know, from the very beginning.
879
00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:25,311
Ladies
and gentlemen,
880
00:43:25,311 --> 00:43:28,022
the President of the
United States Bill Clinton
881
00:43:28,022 --> 00:43:32,693
and the Vice - First Lady
Hillary Rodham Clinton.
882
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:37,782
- The Clintons were
the first iteration
883
00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:41,536
of the baby boom generation
in presidential politics.
884
00:43:41,536 --> 00:43:44,956
For me, Bill Clinton
was the first candidate
885
00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:47,959
I covered who wasn't dad.
886
00:43:47,959 --> 00:43:51,003
We baby boomers had a
sense of righteousness.
887
00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:53,506
We had been the ones who
marched against the war
888
00:43:53,506 --> 00:43:55,633
and in favor of civil rights.
889
00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:57,635
And we had a new set of morals
890
00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:01,097
that many people in the country
found really threatening.
891
00:44:01,097 --> 00:44:04,684
The Clintons were gonna
knock down the establishment.
892
00:44:04,684 --> 00:44:06,477
- Yes, we were trying
to make change.
893
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:08,271
We thought change was overdue.
894
00:44:08,271 --> 00:44:10,731
We thought change was necessary.
895
00:44:10,731 --> 00:44:13,651
- I remember my mom talking
to me about the first ladies
896
00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:16,070
that she really admired.
897
00:44:16,070 --> 00:44:18,573
She talked a lot about
Eleanor Roosevelt.
898
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:21,868
- I had thought a lot
about Eleanor Roosevelt
899
00:44:21,868 --> 00:44:24,996
saying do the thing
you're most afraid of.
900
00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:28,583
You want to make a difference,
you want to have an impact,
901
00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:32,211
well, then you've
gotta get in the arena.
902
00:44:32,211 --> 00:44:33,462
- Well, right from the beginning
903
00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:35,339
he gave her a lot
of responsibility
904
00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:37,049
the day they walked
into the door.
905
00:44:37,049 --> 00:44:39,969
They made it clear she
wasn't there to bake cookies.
906
00:44:39,969 --> 00:44:41,220
- She was the first first lady
907
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:44,640
to have an office
in the West Wing.
908
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,560
The president's
wife has two official offices.
909
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,355
The usual one in the East
Wing where parties are planned
910
00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:53,733
and one in the West Wing
where policy is made.
911
00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:57,862
- I can't help but notice that
this is an all-chick staff.
912
00:44:57,862 --> 00:45:00,072
Is that something that
you did deliberately
913
00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:01,449
or did it just kind of happen?
914
00:45:01,449 --> 00:45:02,742
No, Neil is over there.
915
00:45:02,742 --> 00:45:03,701
Neil, I'm sorry.
- Neil's over there
916
00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:04,869
in the corner.
- That's right.
917
00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:05,828
Poor Neil.
918
00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:09,081
- She hired all women and I
thought that was fantastic.
919
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,875
You know they were
smart as a whip
920
00:45:10,875 --> 00:45:12,668
and she had empowered them all.
921
00:45:12,668 --> 00:45:15,421
- We were encouraged
to give our opinion.
922
00:45:15,421 --> 00:45:17,256
Like I don't want a bunch
of yes people around me
923
00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:18,591
she would say all
the time you know.
924
00:45:18,591 --> 00:45:20,426
Don't yes me on this.
925
00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:22,094
You know, what do
you really think?
926
00:45:22,094 --> 00:45:24,889
- There was something
bigger that united us
927
00:45:24,889 --> 00:45:28,351
and it was being reminded
often by the boss
928
00:45:28,351 --> 00:45:30,102
why we are all here.
929
00:45:30,102 --> 00:45:34,315
- You were part of a cause
you know part of trying to
930
00:45:34,315 --> 00:45:35,983
you know do great things
931
00:45:35,983 --> 00:45:39,779
and have an impact on the
country and the world.
932
00:45:39,779 --> 00:45:41,781
- Hello, this is
Hillary Clinton.
933
00:45:41,781 --> 00:45:44,075
I want to thank you for
letting me speak with you
934
00:45:44,075 --> 00:45:46,953
about an issue that is central
to our children's future,
935
00:45:46,953 --> 00:45:50,081
solving our nation's
healthcare crisis.
936
00:45:51,499 --> 00:45:54,752
- The president wanted
her to work on healthcare.
937
00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:58,756
She gladly accepted the call.
938
00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:00,383
- I am grateful that
Hillary has agreed
939
00:46:00,383 --> 00:46:02,635
to chair this task force.
940
00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:05,304
And not only because it
means she'll be sharing
941
00:46:05,304 --> 00:46:07,890
some of the heat I
expect to generate.
942
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:11,060
- It was explosive
that the president
943
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:13,896
would ask his wife
to do this work.
944
00:46:13,896 --> 00:46:15,815
I thought, well, you know I'm
gonna try to make a difference
945
00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:16,983
in people's lives.
946
00:46:16,983 --> 00:46:19,193
What's more important
than healthcare?
947
00:46:19,193 --> 00:46:20,945
- Keep in mind Lyndon Johnson
948
00:46:20,945 --> 00:46:24,490
had the most Democratic
congress in modern times.
949
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,535
They passed Medicare,
they passed Medicaid.
950
00:46:27,535 --> 00:46:31,372
He did not even try to get
universal health coverage,
951
00:46:31,372 --> 00:46:33,457
didn't even try.
952
00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:35,251
- Harry Truman had
tried to do it.
953
00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:37,253
Richard Nixon had
tried to do it.
954
00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:39,922
And now Hillary Clinton
was trying to do it.
955
00:46:39,922 --> 00:46:41,132
After
hearing from people
956
00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:42,925
who had been denied
medical coverage,
957
00:46:42,925 --> 00:46:46,095
the first lady unloaded
on the insurance industry.
958
00:46:46,095 --> 00:46:47,430
- It's almost as
though they decided
959
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:49,640
that nobody should
ever get sick.
960
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,933
We should all just drop dead
961
00:46:50,933 --> 00:46:52,852
without ever having
been in the hospital.
962
00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:55,855
- She puts together a
task force of smart people
963
00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:59,066
policy wonks to figure out
how to remake the system.
964
00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:00,401
- Our goal was very simple.
965
00:47:00,401 --> 00:47:04,488
We were going to have
guaranteed universal healthcare
966
00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:08,576
at an affordable cost
for every American.
967
00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:14,241
Every American will receive
a health security card
968
00:47:14,241 --> 00:47:18,336
guaranteeing a comprehensive
package of benefits
969
00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:23,341
that can never be taken
away under any circumstance.
970
00:47:24,508 --> 00:47:27,178
- For her, it was
always about policy.
971
00:47:27,178 --> 00:47:28,721
What is the best way to
try to help these families?
972
00:47:28,721 --> 00:47:30,473
And I think she
very much believed
973
00:47:30,473 --> 00:47:33,476
that good policy would
be good politics.
974
00:47:33,476 --> 00:47:35,978
And that was not the story
of that healthcare plan.
975
00:47:37,396 --> 00:47:39,440
- I put her in charge of this
committee for a simple reason
976
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,941
that it had worked at home
977
00:47:40,941 --> 00:47:43,736
in what I thought was a more
conservative atmosphere.
978
00:47:43,736 --> 00:47:46,530
But the truth was it came to
the role of the first lady,
979
00:47:47,907 --> 00:47:52,328
Washington was much more
reactionary than Arkansas was.
980
00:47:53,996 --> 00:47:55,740
Mr. Michel
and Mr. Gingrich.
981
00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:05,091
Is there any problem
with that at all?
982
00:48:05,091 --> 00:48:08,260
- You want to jump in on
this or do you want me to?
983
00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:10,179
- Well, I could always
ask my wife I guess
984
00:48:10,179 --> 00:48:11,680
to come be my
representative but--
985
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,892
- Hillary Clinton was
seen as a more rigid
986
00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:17,436
probably more liberal than
her husband at the time
987
00:48:17,436 --> 00:48:19,105
during those first two years.
988
00:48:19,105 --> 00:48:23,401
And because she was out
front on principle on issues
989
00:48:23,401 --> 00:48:26,487
that maybe half the country
didn't think should go that far
990
00:48:26,487 --> 00:48:30,116
it was easy to demonize her.
991
00:48:30,116 --> 00:48:32,243
Change the
channel to a comedy show
992
00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:35,496
and see Hillary skewered
as the overbearing wife.
993
00:48:35,496 --> 00:48:38,249
- Hillary, why don't
you give it a rest?
994
00:48:38,249 --> 00:48:40,626
- The argument was this
left-wing woman is ordering
995
00:48:40,626 --> 00:48:43,963
her husband around and
you know he's her poodle.
996
00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:46,924
- Just constant attacks from,
997
00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,385
you know, shock and talk radio.
998
00:48:49,385 --> 00:48:50,886
And a whole
bunch of guys testicles
999
00:48:50,886 --> 00:48:53,472
are in Hillary's lock box,
her testicle lock box.
1000
00:48:56,475 --> 00:48:58,561
- I can't remember any first
lady who has been assaulted
1001
00:48:58,561 --> 00:49:00,938
the way she was and
treated the way she was.
1002
00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:02,148
- It never hurts at all?
1003
00:49:02,148 --> 00:49:03,441
- No, it really doesn't.
- Really?
1004
00:49:03,441 --> 00:49:06,444
- Nope, not unless they go after
1005
00:49:06,444 --> 00:49:08,654
a family member or my daughter.
1006
00:49:08,654 --> 00:49:10,698
- Let's take a loo and
see who is the cute kid
1007
00:49:10,698 --> 00:49:13,159
in the White House.
1008
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:17,997
No, no, no, that's not
the kid that's the kid.
1009
00:49:17,997 --> 00:49:18,956
We tried to--
1010
00:49:19,957 --> 00:49:21,459
- Bill Clinton had repositioned
1011
00:49:21,459 --> 00:49:23,335
the Democratic Party
more to the center.
1012
00:49:23,335 --> 00:49:26,755
And so, there was less
room for Republicans
1013
00:49:26,755 --> 00:49:29,258
and conservatives to
attack Bill Clinton
1014
00:49:29,258 --> 00:49:32,845
as a crazy socialist or a
leftist because he wasn't.
1015
00:49:32,845 --> 00:49:34,847
And so, the Republican strategy
1016
00:49:34,847 --> 00:49:38,767
became we're going to get
the Clintons through scandal.
1017
00:49:39,852 --> 00:49:41,854
That was really the seed
1018
00:49:41,854 --> 00:49:45,024
that led to the obsession
with Whitewater,
1019
00:49:45,024 --> 00:49:48,903
a scandal that started with
Vincent Foster's death.
1020
00:49:48,903 --> 00:49:50,362
- At the White House
today the president
1021
00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:52,531
may have had trouble
concentrating on all this.
1022
00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:55,075
Last night his old friend
and colleague Vincent Foster,
1023
00:49:55,075 --> 00:49:56,744
the deputy White House counsel,
1024
00:49:56,744 --> 00:49:58,329
apparently took his own life.
1025
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,001
- Vince Foster was a
childhood friend of Bill's.
1026
00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:06,962
- Vince Foster and I,
our backyards touched.
1027
00:50:06,962 --> 00:50:09,965
And when Hillary went to
work for the Rose Law Firm
1028
00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:11,509
and Vince Foster worked there
1029
00:50:12,843 --> 00:50:16,680
and became one of the
closest friends she ever had.
1030
00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:22,561
I mean Vince's wife
taught Chelsea to swim.
1031
00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:27,191
- He was a terrific law
partner, a terrific friend
1032
00:50:27,191 --> 00:50:31,111
and was very excited about
coming to Washington.
1033
00:50:31,111 --> 00:50:32,446
Police
said Foster's body
1034
00:50:32,446 --> 00:50:35,199
was found at this park
just outside Washington,
1035
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:36,867
dead of a gunshot
wound to the head.
1036
00:50:36,867 --> 00:50:40,371
- It was a very poignant example
1037
00:50:40,371 --> 00:50:42,957
of how an outsider can come in
1038
00:50:42,957 --> 00:50:47,002
wanting to do well
and be just not ready
1039
00:50:47,002 --> 00:50:50,881
for the brutality of what
goes on in Washington.
1040
00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,591
As deputy
to White House counsel
1041
00:50:52,591 --> 00:50:55,010
Bernard Nussbaum,
Foster had been involved
1042
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,221
in much of the early
White House troubles.
1043
00:50:57,221 --> 00:50:59,932
His office intensely
criticized for its role
1044
00:50:59,932 --> 00:51:02,601
in several events
embarrassing to Mr. Clinton.
1045
00:51:02,601 --> 00:51:05,604
- There were appointments
that fell apart.
1046
00:51:05,604 --> 00:51:07,648
The blame fell on the White
House counsel's office
1047
00:51:07,648 --> 00:51:09,483
for not having
vetted them properly
1048
00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,236
and Vince Foster
took it very hard.
1049
00:51:12,236 --> 00:51:16,156
- He was such a professional
and he was so dignified.
1050
00:51:16,156 --> 00:51:18,909
I don't think
anybody had any idea
1051
00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:21,745
that he had fallen
into a depression.
1052
00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:28,085
- The night before his
suicide I called him.
1053
00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:30,421
I asked him if he wanted
to come watch a movie.
1054
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:33,048
He said no.
1055
00:51:33,048 --> 00:51:34,800
He said I've already gone home
1056
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:38,596
and I really need to stay
home with Lisa tonight.
1057
00:51:38,596 --> 00:51:43,225
And I now know he already
knew what he was gonna do.
1058
00:51:54,028 --> 00:51:59,033
- I didn't think I could be
more distraught or more shocked
1059
00:52:00,451 --> 00:52:03,954
but I was when I saw people
starting to politicize it,
1060
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:10,281
starting to spin ridiculous
conspiracy theories.
1061
00:52:10,281 --> 00:52:13,297
- All of a sudden you
get stories circulating
1062
00:52:13,297 --> 00:52:16,925
in these outlets
about Vince Foster
1063
00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:21,639
having been murdered
by the Clintons.
1064
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,601
- Vince was managing their
financial disclosure,
1065
00:52:25,601 --> 00:52:27,019
tax returns, et cetera.
1066
00:52:27,019 --> 00:52:29,355
So, there were kind of
two competing theories.
1067
00:52:29,355 --> 00:52:31,732
One is that he knew too much
1068
00:52:31,732 --> 00:52:33,734
and the Clintons had him killed.
1069
00:52:33,734 --> 00:52:36,654
The other was he knew too much
1070
00:52:36,654 --> 00:52:39,323
and his only out
was to kill himself.
1071
00:52:39,323 --> 00:52:42,076
- You know think of
the emotions of that.
1072
00:52:42,076 --> 00:52:45,162
They were being accused of
murder on the editorial pages.
1073
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:46,830
You know who killed
Vince Foster?
1074
00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:50,042
- It was nuts.
1075
00:52:50,042 --> 00:52:54,296
We started being besieged
by these vile accusations.
1076
00:52:55,714 --> 00:53:00,219
And, yeah, I think that made
me even more restrained.
1077
00:53:01,053 --> 00:53:02,638
- The response by the Clintons
1078
00:53:02,638 --> 00:53:06,058
and the people in the
White House didn't help.
1079
00:53:06,058 --> 00:53:07,976
They sealed off his office.
1080
00:53:07,976 --> 00:53:09,812
Papers were removed
from the office.
1081
00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:12,064
All of this looked weird.
1082
00:53:12,064 --> 00:53:13,023
All of this looks suspicious.
1083
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:14,233
What's going on?
1084
00:53:14,233 --> 00:53:16,694
He had been involved
in this Whitewater deal
1085
00:53:16,694 --> 00:53:23,534
and this is all the recipe for
years of painful controversy.
1086
00:53:23,534 --> 00:53:27,079
Whitewater, it's
an issue that will not die.
1087
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,456
There are hints,
suggestions and innuendo,
1088
00:53:29,456 --> 00:53:31,041
but no smoking gun.
1089
00:53:32,084 --> 00:53:33,669
- I thought Whitewater
was ridiculous.
1090
00:53:33,669 --> 00:53:36,839
No one knew what
Whitewater was about.
1091
00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:42,010
It was a nonstory and somehow
was construed into a scandal.
1092
00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:45,931
And she was seen as being
kind of sketchy as a result.
1093
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,435
Federal Justice
Department officials
1094
00:53:49,435 --> 00:53:51,270
continue their
investigations of friends
1095
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:52,938
of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
1096
00:53:52,938 --> 00:53:56,150
Jim McDougal
was a smart small-town banker
1097
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:58,068
who traveled in the cozy circle
1098
00:53:58,068 --> 00:54:01,488
where Arkansas politics
and business blur.
1099
00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:04,825
- Jim McDougal was
developing a property
1100
00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:07,286
and he came to Bill and he said
1101
00:54:07,286 --> 00:54:08,829
I think it's gonna
be a really good deal
1102
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:11,915
because a lot of retirees are
gonna move to North Arkansas.
1103
00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:14,543
So, would you guys
like to be in it?
1104
00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:16,044
- It just came at a bad time.
1105
00:54:16,044 --> 00:54:19,465
The interest rates went
up, the economy went down.
1106
00:54:19,465 --> 00:54:23,719
And so, we lost the money.
1107
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,557
- Jim McDougal went on to
buy an S&L savings and loan.
1108
00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:30,476
The Clintons didn't
own stock in it.
1109
00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:32,436
They had nothing
really to do with it.
1110
00:54:32,436 --> 00:54:35,522
Hillary's law firm did a
tiny bit of legal work for it
1111
00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:37,649
at one point but they
weren't the main law firm.
1112
00:54:37,649 --> 00:54:38,942
In this building
1113
00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:40,778
the McDougals ran an
S&L Madison Guaranty
1114
00:54:40,778 --> 00:54:43,489
which the government
has since shut down.
1115
00:54:43,489 --> 00:54:46,617
- Ultimately, Jim McDougal
gets convicted of fraud,
1116
00:54:46,617 --> 00:54:48,118
sent to prison.
1117
00:54:48,118 --> 00:54:49,703
The question was always
how much did Bill Clinton
1118
00:54:49,703 --> 00:54:51,371
know what Jim
McDougal was doing?
1119
00:54:51,371 --> 00:54:52,998
How much did
Hillary Clinton know
1120
00:54:52,998 --> 00:54:54,166
what Jim McDougal was doing?
1121
00:54:54,166 --> 00:54:56,752
Should they have
known if they didn't?
1122
00:54:56,752 --> 00:54:57,920
But to the Clintons,
1123
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,089
Whitewater becomes a
metaphor for Washington.
1124
00:55:01,089 --> 00:55:04,426
A metaphor for how people
are out to get them.
1125
00:55:04,426 --> 00:55:08,472
And that Whitewater was used
as a vehicle to do just that.
1126
00:55:08,472 --> 00:55:10,849
- I mean going all the way
back to the Whitewater days,
1127
00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:12,184
I don't understand.
1128
00:55:12,184 --> 00:55:13,769
I've never understood this.
1129
00:55:13,769 --> 00:55:16,813
And I probably will go to my
grave not understanding it.
1130
00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:20,025
All these things about
us get disproved.
1131
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,405
But the press, and I'm
talking about the major organs
1132
00:55:25,405 --> 00:55:26,907
of the press,
1133
00:55:26,907 --> 00:55:31,203
not the Breitbarts and the
Infowars and the crazy people.
1134
00:55:31,912 --> 00:55:33,914
They always bite.
1135
00:55:33,914 --> 00:55:36,375
And I don't know why.
1136
00:55:36,375 --> 00:55:37,668
I mean it must be,
1137
00:55:37,668 --> 00:55:39,628
there's an old joke
about an old guy
1138
00:55:39,628 --> 00:55:44,591
who is you know walking along
the edge of a cliff and,
1139
00:55:44,591 --> 00:55:47,052
he slips and as
he's falling down,
1140
00:55:47,052 --> 00:55:49,471
he grabs onto a branch
and he's holding on.
1141
00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:52,641
And he's praying and
he's going, God, God,
1142
00:55:52,641 --> 00:55:54,643
I've lived a good
life you know I have.
1143
00:55:54,643 --> 00:55:56,353
I've done everything
I'm supposed to do.
1144
00:55:56,353 --> 00:55:58,522
I was a good husband,
I was a good father.
1145
00:55:58,522 --> 00:56:01,108
I was an honest businessperson.
1146
00:56:01,108 --> 00:56:03,777
Please, lord, help me, help me.
1147
00:56:03,777 --> 00:56:05,696
And this voice, you know,
just comes out and says,
1148
00:56:05,696 --> 00:56:07,072
you know, there's just
something about you
1149
00:56:07,072 --> 00:56:08,198
that pisses me off.
1150
00:56:09,741 --> 00:56:12,744
- The Washington Post became
quite seriously interested
1151
00:56:12,744 --> 00:56:15,789
in what happened and put a
couple of people on the story
1152
00:56:15,789 --> 00:56:18,417
and began asking for documents
from the White House.
1153
00:56:18,417 --> 00:56:22,170
- There was a famous moment
when the Washington Post
1154
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:25,591
offered the Clintons
to just sit down
1155
00:56:25,591 --> 00:56:27,426
and make everything public.
1156
00:56:27,426 --> 00:56:29,219
Just answer all of our questions
1157
00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:31,597
and then that will be
the end of Whitewater.
1158
00:56:31,597 --> 00:56:35,851
David Gergen wanted Bill
and Hillary to do that.
1159
00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:38,353
- I was told by our lawyers
1160
00:56:38,353 --> 00:56:40,230
that there are some
embarrassing things in there
1161
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:42,107
but there is nothing criminal.
1162
00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:44,568
I told the president it's
gonna be a three-day story.
1163
00:56:44,568 --> 00:56:48,155
Just get it out in the open,
deal with it and move on.
1164
00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:52,326
He said, you know you're right.
1165
00:56:52,326 --> 00:56:53,493
Let's do it.
1166
00:56:53,493 --> 00:56:55,412
I said fine, great.
1167
00:56:55,412 --> 00:56:56,913
So, I started to
walk out and he said,
1168
00:56:56,913 --> 00:56:58,498
but there is one thing
we didn't talk about.
1169
00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:00,000
I said what's that?
1170
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,585
And he said you know Hillary
was involved in this too.
1171
00:57:01,585 --> 00:57:02,794
I said, yeah, I know that.
1172
00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:05,547
And he said, well, we
need her agreement too.
1173
00:57:05,547 --> 00:57:08,133
I said fine get back
to me when you have it.
1174
00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:09,718
And he said, no, no,
you don't understand.
1175
00:57:09,718 --> 00:57:11,386
You have to go
get her agreement.
1176
00:57:13,221 --> 00:57:15,557
And I was sort of thinking
she's not my wife,
1177
00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:17,726
Kemosabe, you know what.
1178
00:57:17,726 --> 00:57:20,646
I got a call from
Hillary's people
1179
00:57:20,646 --> 00:57:22,856
saying we've sent a letter
over to the Washington Post
1180
00:57:22,856 --> 00:57:26,276
basically Dear Washington
Post, screw you.
1181
00:57:26,276 --> 00:57:28,028
We're not giving
you any documents.
1182
00:57:29,488 --> 00:57:33,450
- I take responsibility for
the unfortunate relationship
1183
00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:35,452
that I have with the press.
1184
00:57:35,452 --> 00:57:39,498
I was too quick to be defensive.
1185
00:57:39,498 --> 00:57:42,167
I didn't play the
game well enough.
1186
00:57:42,167 --> 00:57:44,419
I knew there was a
game to be played
1187
00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:46,838
and I was striking
out all the time.
1188
00:57:47,673 --> 00:57:48,674
- Hi, guys.
1189
00:57:48,674 --> 00:57:51,802
Ho, ho, ho.
1190
00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:01,186
- No, we're having a good time.
1191
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:02,604
Did it
ruin Christmas for you?
1192
00:58:02,604 --> 00:58:04,481
- No, no.
1193
00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:08,619
- The press started
demanding a special counsel.
1194
00:58:08,619 --> 00:58:09,971
We gotta have a special counsel.
1195
00:58:09,971 --> 00:58:11,530
We gotta have
a special counsel.
1196
00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:12,823
And
you advised him not to?
1197
00:58:12,823 --> 00:58:14,074
- Absolutely, I
advised him not to
1198
00:58:14,074 --> 00:58:15,534
and anybody else
who would listen
1199
00:58:15,534 --> 00:58:17,994
I said it was a terrible
mistake and you shouldn't do it.
1200
00:58:17,994 --> 00:58:20,038
I didn't think we had
done anything wrong,
1201
00:58:20,038 --> 00:58:21,998
why would we agree to that?
1202
00:58:21,998 --> 00:58:23,333
But you'll have to ask Bill.
1203
00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:26,628
I mean he basically
was told if he didn't
1204
00:58:26,628 --> 00:58:28,797
it would be on the
front page all the time
1205
00:58:28,797 --> 00:58:30,465
and all the other
things he was doing
1206
00:58:30,465 --> 00:58:33,552
that were so important
would get drowned out.
1207
00:58:33,552 --> 00:58:35,887
- I told them to
go ahead to do it.
1208
00:58:35,887 --> 00:58:37,514
It's the worst
mistake I ever made.
1209
00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:39,015
It was a terrible mistake.
1210
00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:40,559
Today
the White House
1211
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,894
finally gave into demands
for a special prosecutor.
1212
00:58:42,894 --> 00:58:44,312
- The Attorney
General Janet Reno
1213
00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:46,857
has named a Republican
lawyer to be what everybody
1214
00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:49,526
will surely call the
Whitewater special counsel.
1215
00:58:49,526 --> 00:58:51,361
- All of us who were working
1216
00:58:51,361 --> 00:58:55,282
in these senior roles
were subpoenaed.
1217
00:58:55,282 --> 00:58:57,075
Everything was asked about.
1218
00:58:57,075 --> 00:58:59,619
And it got to the point where
1219
00:58:59,619 --> 00:59:03,582
you couldn't get any work done.
1220
00:59:03,582 --> 00:59:05,208
The first
lady who so jealously
1221
00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,211
guards her privacy suddenly
decided to open up today.
1222
00:59:08,211 --> 00:59:09,755
Mrs. Clinton,
Mrs. Clinton...
1223
00:59:09,755 --> 00:59:12,591
- How does my husband
ever make these choices?
1224
00:59:12,591 --> 00:59:13,759
These are hard choices.
1225
00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:17,554
- I'm wondering what
kind of a toll if any
1226
00:59:17,554 --> 00:59:20,766
this has taken on you
1227
00:59:20,766 --> 00:59:24,561
and your and the President's
personal and political lives.
1228
00:59:24,561 --> 00:59:25,854
And do you ever
look in the mirror
1229
00:59:25,854 --> 00:59:29,483
and wish that you just
never got into this?
1230
00:59:29,483 --> 00:59:31,109
- No, never, never.
1231
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:33,403
I mean some days are
better than other days but,
1232
00:59:34,571 --> 00:59:36,072
I try to do what
I'm expected to do
1233
00:59:36,072 --> 00:59:38,033
which for me is
working on healthcare.
1234
00:59:38,033 --> 00:59:41,036
Mrs. Clinton,
Mrs. Clinton...
1235
00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:42,454
- After the Whitewater
1236
00:59:42,454 --> 00:59:45,499
people had these extreme
reactions to her.
1237
00:59:45,499 --> 00:59:47,751
So, when healthcare
is rolling out
1238
00:59:47,751 --> 00:59:49,377
there was a lot of
question about whether
1239
00:59:49,377 --> 00:59:52,380
she should remain you know
in such a visible role.
1240
00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:55,926
I remember we did a bus tour
1241
00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:58,887
trying to promote
quote Hillarycare.
1242
00:59:58,887 --> 01:00:03,391
There were just so many
protesters and hecklers.
1243
01:00:03,391 --> 01:00:04,935
Whitewater
shame on you.
1244
01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:06,645
Whitewater shame on you.
1245
01:00:06,645 --> 01:00:08,438
Whitewater shame on you.
1246
01:00:08,438 --> 01:00:10,273
Whitewater shame on you.
1247
01:00:10,273 --> 01:00:12,275
Whitewater shame on you.
1248
01:00:16,822 --> 01:00:19,991
- You know there is an old
saying that I always liked
1249
01:00:19,991 --> 01:00:21,451
and that is that
1250
01:00:21,451 --> 01:00:24,955
if you don't have the
facts on your side, yell.
1251
01:00:27,499 --> 01:00:29,835
And there is a lot
of yelling going on.
1252
01:00:29,835 --> 01:00:31,002
- Get out of town.
1253
01:00:31,002 --> 01:00:32,128
Get out of town.
1254
01:00:32,128 --> 01:00:34,673
- There was a rally in Kentucky
1255
01:00:34,673 --> 01:00:36,633
where they burned her in effigy.
1256
01:00:39,678 --> 01:00:43,974
- It was really scary
because you never knew
1257
01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:48,103
if somebody could you
know just lose it.
1258
01:00:49,354 --> 01:00:51,147
- The Secret Service came to me
1259
01:00:51,147 --> 01:00:54,025
and said there
could be violence.
1260
01:00:54,025 --> 01:00:55,235
Violence?
1261
01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:59,573
They'd collected
knives and firearms.
1262
01:00:59,573 --> 01:01:01,157
It was the first time
1263
01:01:01,157 --> 01:01:05,328
that I remember being
physically threatened.
1264
01:01:07,664 --> 01:01:09,708
Just so much hatred
1265
01:01:09,708 --> 01:01:15,674
and the whole thing became
toxic, absolutely toxic.
1266
01:01:17,632 --> 01:01:19,718
- And so, what began as
I think a noble cause
1267
01:01:19,718 --> 01:01:20,802
went down in flames,
1268
01:01:22,220 --> 01:01:25,390
against an opposition
that was very, very tough.
1269
01:01:25,390 --> 01:01:27,893
There is no question that the
Republicans wanted to kill it.
1270
01:01:27,893 --> 01:01:29,561
Cruel
news for the estimated
1271
01:01:29,561 --> 01:01:32,397
one out of seven Americans
who are uninsured
1272
01:01:32,397 --> 01:01:34,524
healthcare reform has
been pronounced dead
1273
01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:36,359
for this session of Congress.
1274
01:01:36,359 --> 01:01:38,612
If you
could have changed anything,
1275
01:01:38,612 --> 01:01:41,031
any mistakes that
you felt you made?
1276
01:01:41,031 --> 01:01:43,617
- I made, we made
so many mistakes.
1277
01:01:43,617 --> 01:01:45,619
I mean we were trying
to do something
1278
01:01:45,619 --> 01:01:47,120
that had never been done before.
1279
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,625
And I don't think I would
have taken the upfront role.
1280
01:01:51,625 --> 01:01:53,084
I think that was a mistake.
1281
01:01:53,084 --> 01:01:55,045
I think that somebody else
1282
01:01:55,045 --> 01:01:56,421
could have and
should have led it.
1283
01:01:56,421 --> 01:01:58,506
I could have been
an advocate for it.
1284
01:01:58,506 --> 01:02:00,175
I would have been
a passion advocate.
1285
01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:02,093
I could have
traveled the country.
1286
01:02:02,093 --> 01:02:05,055
But to take on the
responsibility of chairing it
1287
01:02:05,055 --> 01:02:08,183
and all that that entailed
and all the red flags
1288
01:02:08,183 --> 01:02:11,102
that that put up,
that was a mistake.
1289
01:02:11,102 --> 01:02:13,313
I should not have done that.
1290
01:02:16,066 --> 01:02:21,071
I was really crushed when
healthcare went down.
1291
01:02:22,447 --> 01:02:26,076
And then the election
happened, the '94 election.
1292
01:02:26,076 --> 01:02:28,954
- This is truly a
wildly historic night.
1293
01:02:28,954 --> 01:02:31,748
I mean this is just, you know.
1294
01:02:31,748 --> 01:02:33,583
For the
first time in 40 years,
1295
01:02:33,583 --> 01:02:37,087
the Republicans have won control
of both houses of Congress.
1296
01:02:37,087 --> 01:02:39,130
- It was a catastrophe.
1297
01:02:39,130 --> 01:02:41,132
And they came in guns blazing.
1298
01:02:42,634 --> 01:02:45,136
And a lot of those guns
pointed at Hillary.
1299
01:02:45,136 --> 01:02:48,556
- And she is at a
loss at this moment.
1300
01:02:48,556 --> 01:02:50,058
She doesn't know what
her role is gonna be.
1301
01:02:50,058 --> 01:02:51,059
It's not gonna be healthcare.
1302
01:02:51,059 --> 01:02:52,644
What is she gonna do?
1303
01:02:52,644 --> 01:02:55,522
- So, I thought, you
know, I have to recede.
1304
01:02:58,650 --> 01:03:02,779
I just created too much static.
1305
01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:12,038
So, after all
of that, how do you move on?
1306
01:03:12,038 --> 01:03:13,623
- Well, if somebody,
1307
01:03:13,623 --> 01:03:16,167
not just somebody, a number of
somebodies are attacking you,
1308
01:03:16,167 --> 01:03:18,753
lying about you, making
up stuff about you,
1309
01:03:20,171 --> 01:03:21,673
you got two choices.
1310
01:03:21,673 --> 01:03:23,258
You just can walk away
and say I don't care
1311
01:03:23,258 --> 01:03:26,511
what they believe and you know
whatever, whatever, whatever.
1312
01:03:26,511 --> 01:03:32,350
Or more hopefully you can say
1313
01:03:32,350 --> 01:03:33,810
I'm not gonna let it bother me.
1314
01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:35,770
And I'm gonna fight back in
every way that I can fight back.
1315
01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:37,647
And sometimes you're successful
and sometimes you're not.
1316
01:03:37,647 --> 01:03:39,190
I mean people still
believe weird,
1317
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:40,400
wacky things about me
1318
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,361
because they've been
told over and over again
1319
01:03:43,361 --> 01:03:45,989
that you know I killed
people, I robbed people.
1320
01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:48,241
I mean who the heck
knows what they're told.
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