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- I've been an outlaw
ever since I was born.
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I went to reform school
when I was about ten.
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And I learned to box and cry,
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and I learned to do
all the things
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that you do
in reform school.
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I escaped there a bunch
of times and I went to prison,
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and I learned everything
that you do in prison.
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And I talked to all the guys
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and asked them
everything they knew.
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And they told me, sincerity
and honesty will do it.
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It'll trick them every time.
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And then I went outside,
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and all these little kids
got a hold of me and aid,
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"We want to stop the Vietnam
War, and we want to do this."
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What? there was a war?
I don't know what's happening.
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I've been in jail all my life.
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You ever see me in vocational
training? Rehabilitation?
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They never planned
no rehabilitation.
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I sweep the floor
in the kitchen,
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go out and play handball.
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I'm still ten years old
in your world.
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In your world,
I'm still a kid.
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- Now at this point,
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we are going to leave
Golden Gate Park
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to go into,
I think a slight sojourn
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through the Haight-Ashbury
District of San Francisco.
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This is the new avant-garde
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left bank area
of San Francisco,
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which has evolved and developed
over the past number of years.
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In fact, I would say
that the last 18 months
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has seen a tremendous increase
of the so-called hippies,
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who have invaded
and live in this area.
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It is the belief
of the people
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who live within the area
that we, the middle class,
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or the upper class,
have done a very, very poor job
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in running our government
and our way of life.
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- Haight-Ashbury is
where the action is.
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This is where the hippies
began their march
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towards flower power
and the quiet revolution,
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and a rallying point
for the new and irreverent
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way of life of those
who preach the dropout gospel.
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- In 1967,
the American public
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first becomes aware
of what is described
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as an aberration happening
out in San Francisco.
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Because San Francisco
has always been
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where the weirdos go.
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The idea
was starting to spread
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among younger Americans,
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casting off supposedly
the conservative chains
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of old American society.
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This current way
of life we have,
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the way our parents
are living is wrong.
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- The Haight-Ashbury community
has created the council
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for a Summer of Love
in San Francisco.
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- We affirm life, love, peace,
and self-discovery.
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- People come here
to love one another,
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and to be in love
with each other.
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- I think in
Charlie Manson's case,
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he really suffered
from a lack of love.
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And then he got out in '67,
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and, wow, you know,
it's a cultural revolution.
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I mean, it's free love,
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and everybody's talking
about getting rid
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of your inhibitions,
you know, and your fears,
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and so he just
grew his hair long
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and started thinking
about the role of a man,
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you know, in this
new alternative culture.
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- It really was
a perfect storm,
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all those elements
that came together,
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the music, the drugs,
free love and everything.
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The ideology that we thought we
had discovered something new,
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that we, oh,
we finally figured it out.
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- There was a feeling of--
that we were all
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brothers and sisters
more than we felt before.
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And that might have been
enhanced by acid.
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- LSD, lysergic acid
diethylamide.
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Easy to make,
incredibly potent.
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A single ounce contains
300,000 doses,
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each dose drastic
in its effects.
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- LSD is the most potent drug
ever discovered.
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To understand
how profound it is,
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you have to understand
how it works in the brain.
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This is the brain.
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This is the white matter,
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the thinking part,
consciousness.
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LSD comes into the brain,
alters a switch,
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alters the electrical patterns
going into the memory circuit.
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This has
a very profound impact
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on those neuroanatomical
connections,
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in which one sensory modality
is translated into another.
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You see the universe
in a way
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that you've never
seen it before.
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It's like having, like,
a religious vision.
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And you feel that
you have broken on through
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to the other side.
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- The best, most direct,
the most natural way
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to find God
is through chemicals,
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and today, it's marijuana,
LSD, peyote, mescaline,
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and many other
mind-expanding drugs,
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for sure,
coming along every month.
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- Some four million Americans
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are said to have
taken LSD last year.
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Far more than a fad,
it is to some a new religion.
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- It is a drug in which
there is no knowledge
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about the eventual
harmful results.
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One individual can apparently
escape with no problem.
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Others immediately
have a great problem.
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There is a residual effect
that this can come back
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with what might be permanent
brain damage.
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Anyone that would engage
in this or indulge in this
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is just a plain fool.
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- Across the bay in Berkeley,
there was student unrest.
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College was
the place to protest.
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And of all the places
that this was happening,
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Berkeley was probably
the greatest.
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- The feeling,
the passion against the war
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was just ferocious.
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Every night, the network
leading anchor people,
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giving you a death toll of
the dead Americans in Vietnam.
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- And the figures
for last week
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reflected the sharp increase
in the fighting.
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408 Americans were killed,
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the highest number
since the end
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of the enemy's May offensive.
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- Americans
dying for who knew why.
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- And this is where we find
Charlie Manson moving.
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He ends up in Berkeley.
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And he would be perfect
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fitting into the anti-war
demonstrations,
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to the feminists.
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Except he didn't care about
any god damn war overseas.
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If blacks and women
were oppressed,
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he thought that was great.
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That's the way the world's
supposed to work.
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Free love,
that screwed him up.
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How can you be a pimp
if everybody
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can get laid for nothing?
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So Charlie's out
of his element in Berkeley,
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but he does home in
on the one thing.
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You've got young people
who feel alienated.
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They don't feel
like they belong.
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Mary Brunner's a librarian
in Berkeley.
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She's out of place there.
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Instead of wearing
sort of the hippie garb,
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she's wearing blouses
buttoned up to the neck.
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She's from the Midwest.
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Charlie can tell
she's uncomfortable.
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When he meets her,
she's walking her dog.
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And Charlie makes inroads with
her by fussing over the pet.
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They start talking,
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he's using all
the Dale Carnegie techniques.
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They're becoming friends,
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and Charlie just happens
to mention
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he doesn't have any place
to stay right now.
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Mary says,
as he knew she would,
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"Well, you can stay at
my place for a couple nights."
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Once he's there, he goes about
talking his way into her bed.
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Then Mary gets the idea
this is a love affair.
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It's her and Charlie.
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So she's gonna work
and make the money,
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and Charlie will go out
during the day
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and work on his music
and do Charlie things.
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She soon sees that
he's bringing girls back,
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but he's telling her, "But you
can't get upset about this.
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"Nobody's body is their own.
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We're just--we're just
doing the natural thing."
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She gradually sees she's gonna
have to share Charlie.
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- Charlie Manson came
to the Haight-Ashbury
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during that
transitional period,
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when things were getting,
you know, harder and meaner.
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Charlie took LSD.
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He'd become
part of that culture.
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- So I went down and
I looked around and I said,
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"Hey, this is love here."
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All I want
is the little girls.
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They picked me up,
16-year-old kid.
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I said, "Where you sleep?"
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He says,
"Wherever I lay down."
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I said, "Well, don't you
have to have an apartment?"
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And he said,
"No, I sleep in the park."
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I said, "How do you do that?"
He said, "Sleeping bag."
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I said, "Is that right?
What do you eat?"
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He said, "Food."
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I said,
"Man, where do you get it?"
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He said, "Wherever I can."
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I said,
"Don't you have a job?"
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And he laughed at me and said,
"No, we're now the Diggers."
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- The Diggers,
adopting the name
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of a Christian society
of Cromwellian England,
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are the conscience
of the hippies,
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who find dirt
and disorder appealing,
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and only work
when they must.
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- A group
of compatible hippies,
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sharing their
rice and beans,
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and hepatitis
and venereal disease.
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- The diggers decided
to feed the street kids.
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We had to wind up
sending our women
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holding babies
to the farmer's market,
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and the old Italians
would give them
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all the day-old food
right that day.
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And that night, anyone
who showed up with a bowl
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and a spoon could get fed.
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We set up free stores
which had clothes, tools,
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televisions, bicycles,
everything worked.
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And the supposition was,
why do you want to get a job
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and become an employee to make
the money to be a consumer?
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We'll give you the shit.
Now what do you want to do?
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What are you gonna do
with your life?
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These were America's children.
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And they were runaways,
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because a lot of the people
who came back
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from World War II
had PTSD,
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and it was undiagnosed.
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And they were drinking
themselves into coma,
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they were beating their kids
or beating their wives.
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In the '50s, it was not a lot
of fun for a lot of people.
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And I think the kids
who left those families,
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they were looking
for something,
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because life wasn't working.
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And they were looking
for guidance
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wherever they could find it.
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And anybody
with a lot of charisma
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and the ability to rap
could swing somebody.
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- ♪ Your home is where
you're happy ♪
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♪ It's not where
you're not free ♪
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- Everybody's
talking to gurus,
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great philosophers
who can teach you how to live,
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if only you will follow them.
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And in San Francisco,
in Golden Gate Park,
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any time of the day or night,
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there's dozens of people
proclaiming themselves gurus.
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- We're lost in a beautiful
energy, an energy of life.
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- Charlie is not
some great philosopher.
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But from his pimp days,
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he knows
how to recognize kids,
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particularly young girls,
that might be seduced
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in the right ways
if only he can learn them.
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And so, he hangs around Golden
Gate Park listening to gurus.
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- ...might kill a fly.
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And we love
all that energy,
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we'll love life so much
that we'll never die,
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because you'll be so sure
that you're part of God.
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- The standard message
that all of these gurus said
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was society is corrupt.
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You need
to drop out of society
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and become involved
in this alternate reality.
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- Drop out of high school,
drop out of college.
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Drop out of graduate school.
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Turn on, tune in, drop out.
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- These gurus, however,
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controlled
the ultimate reality.
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- Don't think in right and
wrong, just think in truth.
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All the answers are there.
There are no big answers.
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All the big colleges
that we've been building,
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that's taking people
the other way.
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The smartest people
in the world
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are really the most cut off.
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It's the common people,
man, with soul.
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- Charlie used a combination
of sort of psychological ploys.
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Your families
don't understand you.
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I'm the only one
that loves you.
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Come with me
and be part of a real family.
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Judicious use of drugs,
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making sure that the kids
were high a lot of the time.
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And he gradually started
a little group,
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beginning with Mary Brunner,
adding Lynette Fromme,
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who was a runaway that he met
in Venice, California.
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Patricia Krenwinkel,
a sad sort of case
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who was living in
a sort of chaotic situation
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with her sister
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and was met
and seduced by Charlie.
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And then his first real find,
Susan Atkins,
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who Charlie
particularly cherished
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because she was
a very attractive girl,
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and he could use her
as sort of sexual bait
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to try to get men
into his group.
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- He went in, gave him LSD,
had sex with the girls,
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talked about this alternate
vision was the real vision,
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and Charlie was the master.
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But he also took LSD
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and had this altered
consciousness experience
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and believed his philosophy.
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- There was a free clinic
in Haight-Ashbury
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for the hippies
who were sick
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and didn't have hospitals
to go to.
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- Greg,
come on over here.
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- Bad drug trips
led many in the Haight
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to Dr. David Smith's
free clinic for treatment.
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- One thing that people
don't realize is that
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the Haight-Ashbury
is a symptom, not a cause.
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- The clinic opened
in June of '67.
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I think we saw 25,000 patients
the first year.
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And into that scene
came the Manson Family.
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Their place where they lived
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was right around the block
on Cole Street,
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just two blocks
from our clinic.
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Manson was a fairly
well-known individual.
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When they came
to our clinic in '67
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for medical reasons,
it was really interesting,
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almost creepy how much
control he had over them.
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But if you see something creepy
in a weird environment,
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you don't think
it's that weird.
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What I heard was that
he was recruiting
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in the neighborhood,
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but there was a lot
of recruitment going on
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by a number
of different people.
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It was kind of like
competing cults.
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- That was a problem for
Charlie, because essentially,
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he's competing
with all the other gurus.
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So he had to set up something
that was different.
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Charlie still wanted to be
a rock and roll star,
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and intended
to make that happen.
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- By the time he spent
a couple of months
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in San Francisco,
he had his little entourage.
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Charlie loaded his girls
in the bus,
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and off he went
on his merry way
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from San Francisco
down to L.A.
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- KHJ Weather.
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- Look for sunny skies today
with a high of 95 downtown,
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up to 105 in the valleys,
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and 80 at the beaches,
light to moderate smog.
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- No two people are alike
and no two communities either,
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but the people and
the community of Topanga Canyon
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are even more different
than most.
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- Everybody up here
has kind of got
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an individualistic trip
going, you know?
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They like to get out
in the sunshine
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and take off their clothes,
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and groove with the trees,
and paint their paintings,
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and vote for Goldwater
if they want to.
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- I mean,
you can't really help
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but be on
a good trip up here,
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because it's so beautiful.
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The true hippies
are the people
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that just live the way that
life is really meant to be
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without really
materialistic things,
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and they're very happy.
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They get along very well
without any money.
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Well, sometimes it gets
kind of rough.
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- Hippie tribes gather
20,000 strong for a love-in.
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The new waves come bearing
beads and blossoms and bells,
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looking for new experience
and new magic.
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- When my parents starting
tuning on and tuning in,
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at the same time,
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there started to be
a group of people
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that would go
to Griffith Park,
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and, you know, with tie-dyed
shirts and flags and drums.
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They called it a be-in,
so people would just go and be.
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And my dad and a couple
of the guys
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decided that they were
gonna do the drop out thing,
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and got bread trucks,
converted them campers,
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and we had a big yard sale
and sold everything,
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and in September,
we went on down the road.
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And we ended up
at the Hog Farm,
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this commune.
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It really was a hog farm.
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They painted the pigs,
they rode the pigs.
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There was no electricity.
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My dad put a big geodesic dome
on the hill,
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and they would
have these "om" circles.
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And there was
lots of characters.
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It wasn't too many days
later that the leader,
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Hugh Romney, and his wife
Bonnie Jean,
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came and had
a little talk with me,
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letting me know that
they were uncomfortable
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with my being there
because I was jailbait.
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I was a sexually active,
you know, 14-year-old,
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00:20:46,657 --> 00:20:52,054
so they arranged for friends
to come and talk me
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into going to live
with them, which I did.
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And they invited me to come
along with them to this party
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at the spiral staircase house
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to meet this groovy guy
and his girls.
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These girls started
coming over.
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"Diane, Diane, you're here.
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Charlie, Diane's here,"
you know?
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You know, and he was
in the circle playing music,
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00:21:16,078 --> 00:21:17,645
and he got up
and offered me his root beer
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and gave me a big hug,
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and, you know,
"Come, join us in the circle.
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We've been waiting for you."
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00:21:29,657 --> 00:21:31,876
Charlie did take me
to the bus that night
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and made love to me in a way
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that I had never
experienced it before,
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and made me really feel very,
you know, womanly.
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I felt totally accepted
and totally loved and adored,
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and it was really magical.
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It just all ended up seeming,
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00:21:52,114 --> 00:21:54,421
you know,
like providence or something.
389
00:22:07,695 --> 00:22:10,524
- Paul Watkins showed up
at the house in Topanga
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where he was told
he could get good weed.
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And knocked at the door,
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00:22:15,137 --> 00:22:18,662
and suddenly these half-naked
girls said, "Hi, come in."
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00:22:18,793 --> 00:22:21,186
And he thought, well,
this is rather interesting.
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And he went in, he got his
weed, and he met Manson.
395
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,761
Paul was good-looking,
very easy to talk to.
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00:22:30,892 --> 00:22:34,939
So he became Manson's chief
recruiter for young women.
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And he'd go out
and pick up hitchhikers
398
00:22:36,550 --> 00:22:38,595
and bring them back again.
399
00:22:38,726 --> 00:22:42,120
Because Watkins
looked very young,
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00:22:42,251 --> 00:22:47,474
Manson suggested that he get
himself some kind of fake ID
401
00:22:47,604 --> 00:22:49,432
and then enroll
in high school,
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00:22:49,563 --> 00:22:51,521
where he could actually look
403
00:22:51,652 --> 00:22:55,569
at possible contenders
for the Family.
404
00:22:55,699 --> 00:22:57,179
And the girls brought in
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00:22:57,309 --> 00:23:00,008
Angela Lansbury's daughter,
Deidre.
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00:23:00,138 --> 00:23:02,880
And Deidre,
for one period of time,
407
00:23:03,011 --> 00:23:05,535
did get enamored
with the Manson Family
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00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:07,842
and allowed them
to use her credit card.
409
00:23:07,972 --> 00:23:10,801
But then her mother, Angela,
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00:23:10,932 --> 00:23:14,196
was worried about her daughter
getting into drugs.
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00:23:14,326 --> 00:23:17,242
She immediately grabbed her
and sent her to Ireland.
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00:23:19,114 --> 00:23:22,204
Bobby "Cupid" Beausoleil.
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00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:24,685
A good-looking guy
called Cupid,
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00:23:24,815 --> 00:23:27,992
because he was a conquering
hero with the girls.
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Son of a milkman
in Santa Barbara,
416
00:23:30,995 --> 00:23:34,651
troubled kid,
went to reform school,
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00:23:34,782 --> 00:23:37,872
decided he was going
to become a musician.
418
00:23:38,002 --> 00:23:39,874
- Beausoleil
is a couple things
419
00:23:40,004 --> 00:23:42,572
that Charlie wants to be
and is not.
420
00:23:42,703 --> 00:23:44,922
First of all,
he's extremely good-looking,
421
00:23:45,053 --> 00:23:48,491
and he's got good-looking
women following him.
422
00:23:48,622 --> 00:23:50,667
And Charlie
doesn't have that.
423
00:23:50,798 --> 00:23:55,498
Second, Beausoleil is a better
musician than Charlie.
424
00:23:55,629 --> 00:23:57,848
And he and Charlie
even decided
425
00:23:57,979 --> 00:23:59,502
to be in a band together,
426
00:23:59,633 --> 00:24:01,635
and they played
a couple gigs,
427
00:24:01,765 --> 00:24:02,940
and Charlie couldn't
keep up with Bobby,
428
00:24:03,071 --> 00:24:04,942
and Bobby knew it.
429
00:24:05,073 --> 00:24:07,641
But they both could be
of use to each other.
430
00:24:07,771 --> 00:24:09,381
- Charlie was a guy who
marched to his own drummer,
431
00:24:09,512 --> 00:24:11,383
literally.
432
00:24:11,514 --> 00:24:13,124
When Charlie played music,
433
00:24:13,255 --> 00:24:17,215
his tempo and his rhythmic
structure would shift,
434
00:24:17,346 --> 00:24:19,740
and he would
do it deliberately.
435
00:24:19,870 --> 00:24:24,527
He didn't want to be
in regimented time.
436
00:24:24,658 --> 00:24:26,834
He had an aversion to,
you know,
437
00:24:26,964 --> 00:24:30,577
any sort of regimentation,
and no doubt that had to do
438
00:24:30,707 --> 00:24:33,275
with having come out of
an environment in prison
439
00:24:33,405 --> 00:24:36,365
where a lot of things
were regimented.
440
00:24:44,721 --> 00:24:46,549
- The music
scene had primarily
441
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,551
been in New York City
for rock and roll
442
00:24:48,682 --> 00:24:51,075
during the '50s
and the early '60s,
443
00:24:51,206 --> 00:24:53,513
and it shifted to
the west coast in 1964
444
00:24:53,643 --> 00:24:56,037
when the Beatles came out,
445
00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:58,692
because Capitol Records,
their label,
446
00:24:58,822 --> 00:25:00,694
was near the corner
of Hollywood and Vine.
447
00:25:00,824 --> 00:25:03,392
And Phil Spector had been
making records in L.A.
448
00:25:03,523 --> 00:25:04,567
for a few years,
449
00:25:04,698 --> 00:25:06,830
and also
the Beach Boys became,
450
00:25:06,961 --> 00:25:09,616
like, the most popular band
in America at that time.
451
00:25:09,746 --> 00:25:12,096
The Beach Boys were like
the only American group
452
00:25:12,227 --> 00:25:14,708
that kind of kept up
with the Beatles.
453
00:25:14,838 --> 00:25:17,188
There was even a friendly
rivalry between them.
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00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:18,668
And then Dick Clark
moved "American Bandstand"
455
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:20,627
out to the west coast.
456
00:25:20,757 --> 00:25:22,716
Rock and roll
was displacing movies
457
00:25:22,846 --> 00:25:24,892
as the most exciting thing
happening in Hollywood
458
00:25:25,022 --> 00:25:28,722
during the middle '60s.
459
00:25:28,852 --> 00:25:31,333
The Sunset Strip
was sort of like downtown
460
00:25:31,463 --> 00:25:33,509
for this burgeoning
rock and roll scene.
461
00:25:36,251 --> 00:25:39,341
In 1964,
the Whisky a Go Go opened.
462
00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:41,604
And before you know it,
the Whisky a Go Go
463
00:25:41,735 --> 00:25:43,737
has got
all the great groups,
464
00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:46,043
like Frank Zappa's
Mothers of Invention,
465
00:25:46,174 --> 00:25:49,133
and Jim Morrison
and his group, The Doors,
466
00:25:49,264 --> 00:25:51,571
and Buffalo Springfield with
Neil Young and Stephen Stills,
467
00:25:51,701 --> 00:25:53,703
and Love with Arthur Lee
468
00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:55,836
and all his wild,
psychedelic things.
469
00:25:55,966 --> 00:25:58,969
And eventually,
Led Zeppelin would play there,
470
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,928
and Cream would play there,
and all the biggest groups.
471
00:26:05,236 --> 00:26:06,803
- The Whisky a Go Go
had female deejays
472
00:26:06,934 --> 00:26:09,414
spinning records
between the groups.
473
00:26:09,545 --> 00:26:11,634
They were in a glass booth
above the dance floor,
474
00:26:11,765 --> 00:26:15,029
and they would dance
to the records.
475
00:26:15,159 --> 00:26:17,988
One of the deejays,
Joanie Labine,
476
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,209
designed a fringe dress based
on the flappers of the '20s,
477
00:26:21,339 --> 00:26:23,907
and paired it
with white go-go boots.
478
00:26:27,868 --> 00:26:31,436
Producers hung out
at the Whisky a Go Go too.
479
00:26:31,567 --> 00:26:34,222
Terry Melcher was a producer
at Columbia Records.
480
00:26:34,352 --> 00:26:36,354
Melcher came from
Hollywood royalty.
481
00:26:36,485 --> 00:26:38,400
He was Doris Day's son,
and was good friends
482
00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:40,184
with Dennis Wilson
of the Beach Boys,
483
00:26:40,315 --> 00:26:41,229
and he was working
with some of
484
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,535
the most influential
bands of the time.
485
00:26:43,666 --> 00:26:47,801
- ♪ Eight miles high
486
00:26:47,931 --> 00:26:51,239
♪ And when you touch down
487
00:26:51,369 --> 00:26:53,807
- His main group
was The Byrds.
488
00:26:53,937 --> 00:26:56,723
Their anti-establishment
and socially conscious lyrics
489
00:26:56,853 --> 00:26:59,813
became a new type
of rock and roll,
490
00:26:59,943 --> 00:27:02,729
because everybody had bonded
together through rock and roll
491
00:27:02,859 --> 00:27:05,470
as kids in the '50s,
but during the '60s,
492
00:27:05,601 --> 00:27:08,386
they were dealing with
the Vietnam War, civil rights,
493
00:27:08,517 --> 00:27:10,867
and the larger threat
of nuclear weapons.
494
00:27:10,998 --> 00:27:13,870
So the music began
to reflect that.
495
00:27:14,001 --> 00:27:17,657
All the groups that broke
on the Sunset Strip in 1965
496
00:27:17,787 --> 00:27:20,616
and 1966 were getting huge.
497
00:27:20,747 --> 00:27:22,618
So producers
like Terry Melcher
498
00:27:22,749 --> 00:27:24,664
were looking for new artists.
499
00:27:30,844 --> 00:27:32,672
And on to that scene
comes Charlie,
500
00:27:32,802 --> 00:27:36,197
looking for a record deal.
501
00:27:36,327 --> 00:27:39,940
- Manson made it clear
in his last years in prison
502
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:44,466
that his goal was to be
a professional musician.
503
00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:46,033
The last couple years
of his sentence,
504
00:27:46,163 --> 00:27:48,426
he meets Phil Kaufman.
505
00:27:48,557 --> 00:27:51,691
Phil is in
for a marijuana bust.
506
00:27:51,821 --> 00:27:53,867
- I was walking in the yard,
507
00:27:53,997 --> 00:27:56,304
and there was this guy
playing a guitar, you know,
508
00:27:56,434 --> 00:27:57,392
and he's singing his song,
he was singing...
509
00:27:57,522 --> 00:28:00,656
♪ The shadow of your smile
510
00:28:00,787 --> 00:28:01,918
You know,
a very popular song,
511
00:28:02,049 --> 00:28:03,790
and I thought
he was quite good.
512
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,705
I asked him what's going on
and he said,
513
00:28:05,835 --> 00:28:07,837
"You know, I write songs,
514
00:28:07,968 --> 00:28:10,274
and, you know,
I'm gonna be out of here soon."
515
00:28:10,405 --> 00:28:12,755
- Phil knew some people
in L.A.
516
00:28:12,886 --> 00:28:14,801
who were
in the music business.
517
00:28:14,931 --> 00:28:16,324
To Manson, that made Phil
the perfect best friend
518
00:28:16,454 --> 00:28:19,370
he'd ever known.
519
00:28:19,501 --> 00:28:22,896
- Phil had given him the name
of Gary Stromberg,
520
00:28:23,026 --> 00:28:25,986
who was a music producer
at Universal Studios in L.A.,
521
00:28:26,116 --> 00:28:28,728
and Stromberg invites him
into the office
522
00:28:28,858 --> 00:28:31,165
to record a demo disc.
523
00:28:31,295 --> 00:28:34,734
- Hi, Charlie, baby.
524
00:28:34,864 --> 00:28:37,780
Okay.
- Let's see.
525
00:28:37,911 --> 00:28:38,650
- Do whatever
you feel like, man.
526
00:28:38,781 --> 00:28:41,479
- Yeah.
527
00:28:41,610 --> 00:28:43,481
If I can
make myself nervous,
528
00:28:43,612 --> 00:28:47,224
I should be able to
make myself un-nervous.
529
00:28:47,355 --> 00:28:48,835
It makes sense that
it works both ways there.
530
00:28:48,965 --> 00:28:50,750
Let's see.
531
00:28:52,012 --> 00:28:56,451
♪ I once knew a man
532
00:28:56,581 --> 00:29:01,935
♪ So loved he was to be
533
00:29:02,065 --> 00:29:08,071
♪ Now is forever lasting
constant in the mind ♪
534
00:29:08,202 --> 00:29:11,509
♪ Illusions with memories
scheming and alive ♪
535
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,861
♪ In the mind
all the time ♪
536
00:29:14,991 --> 00:29:18,386
♪ One and one
are one if you find ♪
537
00:29:18,516 --> 00:29:20,475
- He brought the girls,
the Family with him,
538
00:29:20,605 --> 00:29:22,564
who have no musical talent,
539
00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:25,872
and they got to play drums
and beat sticks,
540
00:29:26,002 --> 00:29:28,962
and, you know,
impossible to record.
541
00:29:29,092 --> 00:29:30,920
And they dismissed him.
542
00:29:31,051 --> 00:29:32,835
They wouldn't touch it
with a 10-foot pole.
543
00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:35,882
- ♪ He is your love
544
00:29:53,464 --> 00:29:56,598
- When I got out, this fellow
I knew named Harold True
545
00:29:56,728 --> 00:29:58,948
took me to this house
in Topanga Canyon.
546
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:00,863
It was an abandoned house
547
00:30:00,994 --> 00:30:04,998
with no electricity
and no plumbing.
548
00:30:05,128 --> 00:30:07,478
The first time that
I actually met the girls,
549
00:30:07,609 --> 00:30:09,219
and it was all huggy-kissy,
550
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:10,568
"Phil, oh, Phil.
Hello, Phil!
551
00:30:10,699 --> 00:30:12,483
Welcome, Phil."
I said, "Whoa."
552
00:30:12,614 --> 00:30:13,528
I just got out of prison.
553
00:30:13,658 --> 00:30:15,878
There's sex, and there's food,
554
00:30:16,009 --> 00:30:18,402
and there's hanging out
with girls,
555
00:30:18,533 --> 00:30:20,622
and it was just
an idyllic situation.
556
00:30:20,752 --> 00:30:24,017
We all took acid a lot,
did a lot of that.
557
00:30:24,147 --> 00:30:28,456
And Charlie's music
became his drug of choice
558
00:30:28,586 --> 00:30:31,415
to entice people.
559
00:30:31,546 --> 00:30:34,288
When a new girl would come,
everybody'd sit around.
560
00:30:34,418 --> 00:30:36,856
He'd play his guitar
and play his song,
561
00:30:36,986 --> 00:30:39,554
"Look at your Game Girl."
562
00:30:39,684 --> 00:30:43,384
- ♪ Look at your game girl
563
00:30:43,514 --> 00:30:46,039
♪ What a mad delusion
564
00:30:46,169 --> 00:30:48,868
♪ Living in that confusion
565
00:30:48,998 --> 00:30:51,653
♪ Frustration and doubt
566
00:30:51,783 --> 00:30:55,700
♪ Can you ever live
without the game ♪
567
00:30:55,831 --> 00:30:58,529
- You could see where it would
be an enticement, you know?
568
00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:03,012
A girl lost, these people
are all over her, hugging her,
569
00:31:03,143 --> 00:31:05,928
kissing her, combing her hair,
and Charlie's singing to her.
570
00:31:06,059 --> 00:31:09,366
You know, it seemed
like a good deal.
571
00:31:09,497 --> 00:31:12,282
- ♪ Sad game
572
00:31:20,508 --> 00:31:22,336
- I lived with Harold True,
573
00:31:22,466 --> 00:31:23,772
and when Phil
got out of prison,
574
00:31:23,903 --> 00:31:26,906
we invited him to live with us
up Los Feliz, on Waverly.
575
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:32,128
The house is on a hill,
576
00:31:32,259 --> 00:31:34,565
and the front lawn
is covered by hedges,
577
00:31:34,696 --> 00:31:36,698
so you can't really see
until you get up there.
578
00:31:36,828 --> 00:31:38,308
And I look over,
and I see all these fairies
579
00:31:38,439 --> 00:31:40,658
dancing on the front lawn.
580
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:42,530
So Harold used to like
to bring home
581
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:44,662
the freaky freaks
for our entertainment.
582
00:31:44,793 --> 00:31:45,794
So I thought
this is another crew
583
00:31:45,925 --> 00:31:48,101
that Harold found
and brought home,
584
00:31:48,231 --> 00:31:51,974
but it turned out to be
Charlie and all his girls.
585
00:31:52,105 --> 00:31:55,369
- Harold True
had a nice house,
586
00:31:55,499 --> 00:31:57,458
and we went over there
and partied.
587
00:31:57,588 --> 00:32:00,940
He had always lots of grass,
and sometimes he had some acid.
588
00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:02,985
And we'd just
spend the night,
589
00:32:03,116 --> 00:32:05,031
or a couple nights
there at his house,
590
00:32:05,161 --> 00:32:08,121
and he was just
a friend of Charlie's.
591
00:32:08,251 --> 00:32:10,079
- Oh, I thought Charlie
was just a great conman,
592
00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:11,994
a P.T. Barnum.
593
00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:14,649
I got the impression
that he picked up
594
00:32:14,779 --> 00:32:18,609
a lot of things
made from different people
595
00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:21,743
in Haight-Ashbury
or around there and down.
596
00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:26,313
And then he put them
in his repertoire.
597
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,421
- One day we ended up
on Leo Carrillo,
598
00:32:47,551 --> 00:32:49,597
Sycamore Canyon area,
599
00:32:49,727 --> 00:32:52,469
and we were gonna go farther
in the woods,
600
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,038
but the bus got bogged down
in the mud or something,
601
00:32:56,169 --> 00:32:59,085
and we couldn't go
any further.
602
00:32:59,215 --> 00:33:02,044
And we stopped
in the woods somewhere,
603
00:33:02,175 --> 00:33:03,959
and we stayed there
for a while.
604
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:10,183
One night, the police came,
and they arrested us all,
605
00:33:10,313 --> 00:33:12,141
and, you know, there was
an article in the paper
606
00:33:12,272 --> 00:33:15,057
about the nine nude hippies
that they found.
607
00:33:15,188 --> 00:33:17,625
I mean, we were sleeping
in sleeping bags,
608
00:33:17,755 --> 00:33:21,063
and we slept in the nude,
so yeah, we were nude,
609
00:33:21,194 --> 00:33:23,674
you know,
when they arrested us.
610
00:33:23,805 --> 00:33:26,286
So we put our clothes on
and for some reason I had,
611
00:33:26,416 --> 00:33:29,202
like, four tabs of acid,
you know, in my pocket.
612
00:33:29,332 --> 00:33:31,378
And so I'd always heard,
oh, if you get busted,
613
00:33:31,508 --> 00:33:33,467
swallow it, right?
614
00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:35,817
So I took four tabs of acid.
615
00:33:35,947 --> 00:33:40,778
And they took us
to Ventura County Jail,
616
00:33:40,909 --> 00:33:44,086
and it ended up
being a good trip.
617
00:33:46,219 --> 00:33:49,135
Every Beatles song
that I'd ever heard
618
00:33:49,265 --> 00:33:52,225
just came flowing
out of my mouth,
619
00:33:52,355 --> 00:33:54,488
and so I had everybody
singing all the Beatles songs.
620
00:33:57,230 --> 00:33:59,884
We were only there
for one night.
621
00:34:00,015 --> 00:34:03,584
We went to court the next day,
and they released us all.
622
00:34:03,714 --> 00:34:05,107
It was a trespassing charge.
623
00:34:05,238 --> 00:34:08,067
And I think it was
shortly after that
624
00:34:08,197 --> 00:34:11,113
that they found
Spahn Ranch.
625
00:34:11,244 --> 00:34:12,419
Experimental Band's
626
00:34:14,899 --> 00:34:16,684
- ♪ San Francisco--
627
00:34:16,814 --> 00:34:20,209
♪ In L.A.,
no one's on the street ♪
628
00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:25,040
♪ Let's go off on our own
in the country ♪
629
00:34:27,608 --> 00:34:31,177
♪ All our friends
will be there ♪
630
00:34:31,307 --> 00:34:34,615
♪ No one will give us
a hard time ♪
631
00:34:34,745 --> 00:34:37,487
♪ We can make it alone
632
00:34:37,618 --> 00:34:39,968
♪ In the country
633
00:34:56,419 --> 00:34:59,814
- Spahn Ranch was out
that long road out Topanga.
634
00:34:59,944 --> 00:35:01,816
It was dusty,
it was dirty.
635
00:35:01,946 --> 00:35:04,123
There we oak trees,
there was a little stream,
636
00:35:04,253 --> 00:35:05,602
and there was
these funky old buildings,
637
00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:07,822
and the sets, the saloon,
638
00:35:07,952 --> 00:35:10,216
and the sheriff's office,
and all this stuff.
639
00:35:10,346 --> 00:35:12,740
It really felt like
another world up there,
640
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:16,700
on the edge of the
San Fernando Valley and L.A.
641
00:35:16,831 --> 00:35:18,006
It was perfect.
642
00:35:18,137 --> 00:35:22,315
It was really fantasyland,
and just fit right in.
643
00:35:22,445 --> 00:35:25,840
- Charlie introduced us
to the joys
644
00:35:25,970 --> 00:35:28,756
of dumpster diving
behind the grocery stores.
645
00:35:28,886 --> 00:35:31,237
We had our favorite ones,
because they had better food
646
00:35:31,367 --> 00:35:33,021
that they threw out
that was still good.
647
00:35:36,285 --> 00:35:38,287
Charlie would tell us
that needing food
648
00:35:38,418 --> 00:35:40,637
was just, like,
our imagination.
649
00:35:40,768 --> 00:35:43,945
Air and water was enough.
650
00:35:44,075 --> 00:35:47,688
Then there was always, like,
the evening get-together.
651
00:35:47,818 --> 00:35:49,907
Drugs were being smoked
and taken.
652
00:35:52,954 --> 00:35:55,130
- Charlie builds a bonfire
out in the middle of the yard,
653
00:35:55,261 --> 00:35:56,697
and he gets a guitar,
654
00:35:56,827 --> 00:35:58,960
and has everybody
smoke marijuana,
655
00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,703
and gets them all stoned,
and then they sing songs.
656
00:36:02,833 --> 00:36:07,186
One of Charlie's basic creeds
is that there is no crime,
657
00:36:07,316 --> 00:36:10,450
there is no sin,
that it's all just a game.
658
00:36:13,366 --> 00:36:15,629
And Charlie considers
himself to be Jesus,
659
00:36:15,759 --> 00:36:18,501
the second
coming of Christ.
660
00:36:18,632 --> 00:36:21,896
And he told me that I had to
be me before I could be him,
661
00:36:22,026 --> 00:36:24,290
because he was
a reflection of me,
662
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:28,337
and he was only
what I saw in myself.
663
00:36:28,468 --> 00:36:31,688
And that I was supposed
to give up my world
664
00:36:31,819 --> 00:36:34,343
so that I could have his,
665
00:36:34,474 --> 00:36:38,347
and that by giving up,
God would come through me,
666
00:36:38,478 --> 00:36:41,263
and I would just be
a hole in the infinite,
667
00:36:41,394 --> 00:36:44,135
as he says he is.
668
00:36:46,834 --> 00:36:49,924
- Thank you.
Hey, all right.
669
00:36:50,054 --> 00:36:53,188
- Thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you.
670
00:36:53,319 --> 00:36:55,364
- In 1968, all of a sudden,
671
00:36:55,495 --> 00:36:57,627
Beach Boys find themselves
out of sync with the times.
672
00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:59,238
- Thank you.
673
00:36:59,368 --> 00:37:01,979
- The perception of them
in the public was,
674
00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:04,199
you know, they're not part
of the counterculture
675
00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:06,636
on progressive rock radio.
676
00:37:06,767 --> 00:37:09,335
So they're all struggling.
677
00:37:09,465 --> 00:37:11,772
- Dennis, of course, I mean,
he was drinking,
678
00:37:11,902 --> 00:37:16,516
and he was not really
in control of himself.
679
00:37:16,646 --> 00:37:21,999
And somehow, he picked up
Charles Manson's girls.
680
00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:24,219
- Ella Jo Bailey
and Patricia Krenwinkel,
681
00:37:24,350 --> 00:37:25,786
they were hitchhiking,
682
00:37:25,916 --> 00:37:27,614
and Dennis Wilson
picked them up
683
00:37:27,744 --> 00:37:29,920
and took them to his home.
684
00:37:30,051 --> 00:37:32,271
He just said, you know,
685
00:37:32,401 --> 00:37:34,229
"My house is your house"
kind of thing.
686
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,449
And they took him literally.
687
00:37:36,579 --> 00:37:39,843
Later on, he went
to a recording session.
688
00:37:39,974 --> 00:37:42,890
- He came back at 2:00
in the morning
689
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:46,589
and discovered that there was
a bus parked in his driveway.
690
00:38:01,778 --> 00:38:05,391
And guess who greeted him at
the front door of his mansion?
691
00:38:05,521 --> 00:38:08,307
Manson kissed
Dennis Wilson's feet,
692
00:38:08,437 --> 00:38:10,352
and Dennis thought,
oh, this is cool.
693
00:38:10,483 --> 00:38:12,876
And he told him to stay,
and they stayed,
694
00:38:13,007 --> 00:38:16,576
and they provided Dennis
and anybody else
695
00:38:16,706 --> 00:38:20,057
who came to Dennis's house
with a ready supply of drugs,
696
00:38:20,188 --> 00:38:22,712
a ready supply of sex
if they wanted it,
697
00:38:22,843 --> 00:38:26,890
and Dennis thought
he was in Nirvana.
698
00:38:27,021 --> 00:38:30,459
- Dennis was rather
a quiet individual,
699
00:38:30,590 --> 00:38:36,857
and he also had an affinity
for finding the waifs
700
00:38:36,987 --> 00:38:39,033
and people that seemed
to be misfits.
701
00:38:39,163 --> 00:38:41,905
They would all seem
to find him.
702
00:38:42,036 --> 00:38:44,473
Charlie was able
to manipulate him.
703
00:38:44,604 --> 00:38:46,910
Dennis was enamored with him
704
00:38:47,041 --> 00:38:50,958
and kind of took him
under his wing.
705
00:38:51,088 --> 00:38:53,090
- Dennis Wilson liked
to tell his pals,
706
00:38:53,221 --> 00:38:55,963
come along to my house
to see Manson
707
00:38:56,093 --> 00:39:00,402
and these scantily-clad
young women do their thing.
708
00:39:00,533 --> 00:39:02,883
It was a free show,
and a freaky show,
709
00:39:03,013 --> 00:39:04,754
and Charlie had
a captive audience
710
00:39:04,885 --> 00:39:06,452
at Dennis Wilson's house.
711
00:39:11,021 --> 00:39:13,372
A lot of people
had to sit there
712
00:39:13,502 --> 00:39:16,331
and listen
to Manson perform.
713
00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:39,485
- One day, Tex Watson,
he's out hitchhiking,
714
00:39:39,615 --> 00:39:42,923
and is picked up
by a guy he doesn't know,
715
00:39:43,053 --> 00:39:46,927
but it turns out
to be Dennis Wilson.
716
00:39:47,057 --> 00:39:50,365
Wilson takes Tex to his house,
and there's people there.
717
00:39:50,496 --> 00:39:52,802
It's Charlie and the girls.
718
00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:56,850
And by God, Tex,
in his dope-addled brain,
719
00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:58,939
wants nothing more than to be
720
00:39:59,069 --> 00:40:01,202
an acolyte of this guy,
Charlie,
721
00:40:01,332 --> 00:40:05,685
who's got girls that will do
anything he tells them to do.
722
00:40:05,815 --> 00:40:08,339
Whatever Tex dreamed
about finding in California,
723
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:10,951
this was it.
724
00:40:11,081 --> 00:40:15,042
Growing up, Tex Watson
was your quintessential
725
00:40:15,172 --> 00:40:17,958
Texas country good ol' boy.
726
00:40:18,088 --> 00:40:21,483
He lived in a little tiny town
in east Texas.
727
00:40:21,614 --> 00:40:24,138
He was the kid
that everybody else
728
00:40:24,268 --> 00:40:27,881
thought was gonna do
great things.
729
00:40:28,011 --> 00:40:30,449
- He once taught Sunday school
in this church,
730
00:40:30,579 --> 00:40:32,189
and he worked behind
his father's
731
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,975
country store counter
across the street.
732
00:40:35,105 --> 00:40:36,542
He was the kind of boy
a community like Copeville
733
00:40:36,672 --> 00:40:39,501
could be proud of.
734
00:40:39,632 --> 00:40:42,983
- Charles was above average,
very definitely so.
735
00:40:43,113 --> 00:40:47,117
He excelled in football
and basketball and track.
736
00:40:47,248 --> 00:40:48,989
He was well-liked
by the student body,
737
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,644
and he was very active
in all kinds
738
00:40:51,774 --> 00:40:54,864
of extracurricular activities,
you see.
739
00:40:57,171 --> 00:40:59,478
- He was one of the few
who went off to college.
740
00:40:59,608 --> 00:41:02,132
But once he was there,
he discovered drugs,
741
00:41:02,263 --> 00:41:04,961
and forgot about class.
742
00:41:05,092 --> 00:41:07,398
And Tex then announces
he's going to Hollywood.
743
00:41:10,793 --> 00:41:13,579
He's working in a wig shop,
sleeping on the floor,
744
00:41:13,709 --> 00:41:16,712
and smoking dope
wherever he can get it.
745
00:41:16,843 --> 00:41:18,932
Charlie went through
a series of people
746
00:41:19,062 --> 00:41:23,240
who were really Charlie's,
you know, group captain.
747
00:41:23,371 --> 00:41:27,636
And Tex very much
wanted to be that man.
748
00:41:27,767 --> 00:41:31,553
Charlie knew that in Watson,
he had a piece of clay
749
00:41:31,684 --> 00:41:33,163
he could mold
however he wanted
750
00:41:33,294 --> 00:41:36,297
whenever he felt like it.
751
00:41:42,216 --> 00:41:46,046
- I was living with Bobby in
our teepee in Topanga Canyon.
752
00:41:46,176 --> 00:41:48,048
I like to take walks
by myself,
753
00:41:48,178 --> 00:41:51,051
and I met up
with Paul Watkins.
754
00:41:51,181 --> 00:41:53,401
He actually
just handed me a joint,
755
00:41:53,532 --> 00:41:55,316
and I took a couple drags.
756
00:41:55,446 --> 00:41:56,491
And he said, do you want to see
a really pretty place?
757
00:41:56,622 --> 00:41:58,667
And I said, sure.
758
00:41:58,798 --> 00:42:01,714
So we went to a waterfall
and a pond,
759
00:42:01,844 --> 00:42:05,195
and we went skinny dipping,
and we ended up having sex.
760
00:42:05,326 --> 00:42:08,634
About three days later,
761
00:42:08,764 --> 00:42:12,986
here comes a car
with an old, scruffy cowboy,
762
00:42:13,116 --> 00:42:16,990
and two girls up front,
and two girls in back.
763
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,602
And Bobby goes over to him
like he knows him,
764
00:42:20,733 --> 00:42:22,648
and this cowboy says,
"Hey, do you want to
765
00:42:22,778 --> 00:42:25,651
go swimming at
Dennis Wilson's house?"
766
00:42:25,781 --> 00:42:30,090
So I get into the car,
and we're driving,
767
00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:32,396
and this old cowboy
is checking me out
768
00:42:32,527 --> 00:42:35,138
in the rearview mirror,
and no one else is talking.
769
00:42:35,269 --> 00:42:37,663
And every time
he says something,
770
00:42:37,793 --> 00:42:43,016
they kind of giggle,
like a little acidy giggle.
771
00:42:43,146 --> 00:42:45,671
We go into
the Pacific Palisades.
772
00:42:45,801 --> 00:42:47,586
He said, "Do you
like the Beach Boys?"
773
00:42:47,716 --> 00:42:49,718
I said, well, not really.
774
00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:52,678
He laughed,
and everybody kind of giggled.
775
00:42:52,808 --> 00:42:56,377
So we pull up to a gate,
and he puts in a code.
776
00:42:56,507 --> 00:42:59,336
After we pull in,
this cowboy turns around,
777
00:42:59,467 --> 00:43:02,252
looks and me and said,
"This is your dream, girl,
778
00:43:02,383 --> 00:43:03,950
so now you can
start living it."
779
00:43:11,131 --> 00:43:12,872
I walk in,
780
00:43:13,002 --> 00:43:16,049
and there's beautiful
young people everywhere.
781
00:43:16,179 --> 00:43:19,095
And in walks the rock star
782
00:43:19,226 --> 00:43:21,663
with freshly-washed
chestnut hair,
783
00:43:21,794 --> 00:43:24,013
good-looking,
cleft in his chin,
784
00:43:24,144 --> 00:43:28,104
dreamy eyes,
in a silk robe
785
00:43:28,235 --> 00:43:30,672
and silk harem-looking pants.
786
00:43:30,803 --> 00:43:32,152
I found out later
they were made
787
00:43:32,282 --> 00:43:34,502
with Dennis Wilson's sheets.
788
00:43:34,633 --> 00:43:37,418
He looked totally different,
but I knew it was the cowboy.
789
00:43:37,548 --> 00:43:40,595
And he goes,
"Hi, I'm Charlie Manson."
790
00:43:45,861 --> 00:43:50,649
- ♪ There's a time
for living ♪
791
00:43:50,779 --> 00:43:55,610
♪ The time keeps on flying
792
00:43:58,178 --> 00:43:59,832
♪ Look at your game girl
793
00:43:59,962 --> 00:44:03,705
- And then the very first song
that Charlie sang was
794
00:44:03,836 --> 00:44:05,751
"Look at Your Game Girl."
795
00:44:05,881 --> 00:44:07,709
And the words were just
hitting me here,
796
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,277
like, was I playing a game?
797
00:44:10,407 --> 00:44:13,584
Are my feelings real?
798
00:44:13,715 --> 00:44:16,631
And it just really...
799
00:44:18,851 --> 00:44:21,897
...got to me.
It really got to me.
800
00:44:22,028 --> 00:44:25,422
And I think I was drawn in
not only with the music,
801
00:44:25,553 --> 00:44:29,513
but with feeling
of belonging.
802
00:44:29,644 --> 00:44:33,300
At the end, I said,
"You know what? I'm staying."
803
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:38,740
- ♪ Sad game
804
00:44:38,871 --> 00:44:40,437
- Charlie was
very charismatic,
805
00:44:40,568 --> 00:44:43,832
and he had this uncanny
ability to read people
806
00:44:43,963 --> 00:44:48,663
and immediately know
what our weaknesses were
807
00:44:48,794 --> 00:44:50,360
and what we needed,
808
00:44:50,491 --> 00:44:52,493
and he would become
that person and fulfill that.
809
00:44:54,974 --> 00:44:57,890
- And he would tell us,
"I don't think at all.
810
00:44:58,020 --> 00:45:01,545
So when I get a thought,
it doesn't come from me."
811
00:45:01,676 --> 00:45:04,331
We took that to think
it comes from, like, a god.
812
00:45:04,461 --> 00:45:06,681
So we just thought
he was the closest thing
813
00:45:06,812 --> 00:45:09,379
to being the one,
814
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:12,078
and we all wanted to be
not only like Charlie,
815
00:45:12,208 --> 00:45:14,384
we wanted to be Charlie.
816
00:45:14,515 --> 00:45:17,387
We wanted to have
no thoughts, no cares,
817
00:45:17,518 --> 00:45:21,609
and be able to be a conduit
to truth coming from on high.
818
00:45:25,091 --> 00:45:28,355
- What struck me is
how excited they were,
819
00:45:28,485 --> 00:45:31,750
when Manson kind of
gave them the entre
820
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,577
into Dennis Wilson's house.
821
00:45:33,708 --> 00:45:35,797
I mean, they were these young
kids who, all of a sudden,
822
00:45:35,928 --> 00:45:37,494
were hobnobbing
with Dennis Wilson,
823
00:45:37,625 --> 00:45:39,714
and all these people,
the Mamas and the Papas,
824
00:45:39,845 --> 00:45:41,760
and Dean Martin's daughter.
825
00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:44,763
They thought this was heaven.
826
00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:47,766
Terry Melcher, Gregg Jakobson,
827
00:45:47,896 --> 00:45:51,465
and Dennis Wilson
were all bosom buddies.
828
00:45:51,595 --> 00:45:54,555
These young men,
all good-looking,
829
00:45:54,685 --> 00:45:58,820
still needed a little
extra pizzazz to their lives.
830
00:45:58,951 --> 00:46:01,518
So anybody with
a rough reputation
831
00:46:01,649 --> 00:46:04,870
might have been adopted
into the scene.
832
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,959
And Manson was incredible
in the way
833
00:46:07,089 --> 00:46:10,876
he was able to put a magic
spell on all these guys
834
00:46:11,006 --> 00:46:15,837
who were fascinated
by this odd character.
835
00:46:15,968 --> 00:46:17,796
- We were at
the Whisky one night.
836
00:46:17,926 --> 00:46:18,971
There was a table
at the Whisky
837
00:46:19,101 --> 00:46:21,147
that was reserved
for the music people.
838
00:46:21,277 --> 00:46:22,496
I was with Terry, I think,
839
00:46:22,626 --> 00:46:24,106
and Dennis had
come in with Charlie,
840
00:46:24,237 --> 00:46:25,542
and Lou Adler was there.
841
00:46:25,673 --> 00:46:26,935
There were a lot of people
at the table.
842
00:46:27,066 --> 00:46:29,242
And all of a sudden,
there's like
843
00:46:29,372 --> 00:46:31,592
almost a commotion
on the dance floor.
844
00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:33,899
And I finally stood up
on the booth, and I'm looking.
845
00:46:34,029 --> 00:46:37,076
I said, "Hey, you guys,
you have to see this."
846
00:46:37,206 --> 00:46:38,904
And it was Charlie in
the middle of the dance floor
847
00:46:39,034 --> 00:46:41,950
at the Whisky,
and he was going off.
848
00:46:42,081 --> 00:46:44,431
I swear to this day that
there was electricity
849
00:46:44,561 --> 00:46:48,348
coming off the guy's head,
and he cleared the floor.
850
00:46:48,478 --> 00:46:50,524
I mean, he was in a zone,
and he was just out there,
851
00:46:50,654 --> 00:46:54,963
arms, legs,
head, hair, spittle.
852
00:46:55,094 --> 00:46:56,922
It wasn't rehearsed
or planned,
853
00:46:57,052 --> 00:46:59,228
but that's Charlie.
854
00:47:06,627 --> 00:47:08,498
The Beach Boys had formed
their own record label,
855
00:47:08,629 --> 00:47:10,936
Brother Records,
and Dennis thought Charlie
856
00:47:11,066 --> 00:47:13,852
could potentially be
one of the artists.
857
00:47:13,982 --> 00:47:15,984
They did try
working with him,
858
00:47:16,115 --> 00:47:17,943
and they did try making
something happen with him.
859
00:47:18,073 --> 00:47:22,991
Brian Wilson had
a studio in his home.
860
00:47:23,122 --> 00:47:26,995
- We went to Brian Wilson's
to do a recording,
861
00:47:27,126 --> 00:47:30,433
or a session that they were
gonna record, maybe a demo.
862
00:47:30,564 --> 00:47:33,262
I think it was like
Nancy Pittman and I,
863
00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:34,698
and we didn't have
bathing suits,
864
00:47:34,829 --> 00:47:36,570
so, you know, we were
swimming in the pool nude,
865
00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:39,355
and I think Brian's wife
was there.
866
00:47:39,486 --> 00:47:43,272
And she, you know, she wasn't
happy about us being there.
867
00:47:43,403 --> 00:47:45,361
- Stephen Desper
is the recording guy
868
00:47:45,492 --> 00:47:46,972
at Brian Wilson's house.
869
00:47:47,102 --> 00:47:50,714
- Charlie was not
going to be produced.
870
00:47:50,845 --> 00:47:52,934
He wasn't.
871
00:47:53,065 --> 00:47:55,197
He had no idea what recording
sessions were about,
872
00:47:55,328 --> 00:47:56,938
how to make records.
873
00:47:57,069 --> 00:47:58,984
He took it all
very personally,
874
00:47:59,114 --> 00:48:03,292
and he was not
a professional artist.
875
00:48:03,423 --> 00:48:06,034
- After about an hour
and an argument,
876
00:48:06,165 --> 00:48:09,690
Desper throws his hands up,
and they all leave.
877
00:48:11,735 --> 00:48:12,780
- We were swimming
in the pool,
878
00:48:12,911 --> 00:48:14,477
and Charlie comes out.
879
00:48:14,608 --> 00:48:17,872
"Girls, get your clothes on.
We're leaving."
880
00:48:18,003 --> 00:48:19,526
The way he said it,
it was abrupt,
881
00:48:19,656 --> 00:48:23,878
and the way we pulled out,
there was squealing brakes
882
00:48:24,009 --> 00:48:26,489
and, you know, acceleration.
883
00:48:26,620 --> 00:48:29,449
He was mad.
884
00:48:29,579 --> 00:48:30,929
Summer was coming to an end.
885
00:48:31,059 --> 00:48:32,408
I think it was September now,
886
00:48:32,539 --> 00:48:35,194
and Dennis was gonna go away
for two weeks on the road.
887
00:48:35,324 --> 00:48:36,935
He says, "Gregg," he says,
"Can you get me out of here?"
888
00:48:37,065 --> 00:48:40,025
He says, "Can you
find a house for me?"
889
00:48:40,155 --> 00:48:41,809
And I found a house
on the way to Malibu
890
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:43,289
on the Coast Highway.
891
00:48:43,419 --> 00:48:45,073
And the whole idea was to not
892
00:48:45,204 --> 00:48:47,554
let the girls
and Charlie know.
893
00:48:47,684 --> 00:48:49,295
He was really trying
to divorce himself from that.
894
00:48:49,425 --> 00:48:50,687
He was really done with it.
895
00:49:00,219 --> 00:49:04,049
- Direct from our newsroom
in Washington, in color,
896
00:49:04,179 --> 00:49:08,053
this is the "CBS Evening News
with Walter Cronkite."
897
00:49:08,183 --> 00:49:11,099
- Good evening.
Dr. Martin Luther King,
898
00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:14,059
the apostle of nonviolence
in the Civil Rights Movement,
899
00:49:14,189 --> 00:49:15,886
has been shot to death
in Memphis, Tennessee.
900
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,854
- 1968 was a horrible year.
901
00:49:29,204 --> 00:49:32,903
There was the Vietnam War,
which was raging.
902
00:49:33,034 --> 00:49:33,904
- Do you think it's worth it?
903
00:49:34,035 --> 00:49:36,516
- Yeah, I don't know.
904
00:49:36,646 --> 00:49:38,344
They say we're fighting
for something, I don't know.
905
00:49:41,216 --> 00:49:43,479
all: Hell no, we won't go!
Hell no, we won't go!
906
00:49:43,610 --> 00:49:44,959
- The protests got violent.
907
00:49:50,617 --> 00:49:52,488
The cops got violent
with the protesters.
908
00:49:59,234 --> 00:50:01,106
- All of it began
the first time some of you
909
00:50:01,236 --> 00:50:03,499
who know better
let young people think
910
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:06,111
that they have the right
to choose the laws
911
00:50:06,241 --> 00:50:07,547
they would obey as long
as they were doing it
912
00:50:07,677 --> 00:50:09,114
in the name of social protest.
913
00:50:14,467 --> 00:50:18,079
- In '67, '68,
914
00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:20,864
there's racial unrest
between blacks and whites.
915
00:50:24,259 --> 00:50:26,957
There were race riots
in every major American city.
916
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:33,442
- Channel Five will present
a documentary account
917
00:50:33,573 --> 00:50:35,749
of the violence
and insurrection
918
00:50:35,879 --> 00:50:40,536
that has torn this great city
asunder for the past five days.
919
00:50:40,667 --> 00:50:46,542
- The Watts riot of '65 was
one of the earliest riots.
920
00:50:46,673 --> 00:50:49,371
This one came out
of a police encounter
921
00:50:49,502 --> 00:50:51,852
that went terribly wrong
922
00:50:51,982 --> 00:50:55,986
between a paramilitary
organization called the LAPD
923
00:50:56,117 --> 00:50:59,816
and the African-American
community.
924
00:50:59,947 --> 00:51:04,560
The LAPD was one that prided
themselves on their investment
925
00:51:04,691 --> 00:51:07,172
in tactical equipment
926
00:51:07,302 --> 00:51:11,828
that was most appropriate
for warzones.
927
00:51:11,959 --> 00:51:16,790
They were there to enforce
order like an occupying force.
928
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,706
That meant there were
all sorts of moments
929
00:51:19,836 --> 00:51:24,102
in which police brutality
became just the way of life.
930
00:51:24,232 --> 00:51:25,364
This time there was pushback.
931
00:51:28,236 --> 00:51:30,456
It went on for several days.
932
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,852
The National Guard
was called out.
933
00:51:35,983 --> 00:51:38,942
- Cameraman Ed Clark, who's
just returned from the area,
934
00:51:39,073 --> 00:51:41,554
would you tell it how it was
tonight compared to last night?
935
00:51:41,684 --> 00:51:43,773
- Well, Stan, in my 15 years
in the news business,
936
00:51:43,904 --> 00:51:46,254
this is undoubtedly the worst
thing I think I've ever seen.
937
00:51:46,385 --> 00:51:48,256
Well, I can honestly say
that I was scared to death.
938
00:51:48,387 --> 00:51:51,216
- And these are roving mobs
of mostly teenagers,
939
00:51:51,346 --> 00:51:54,567
would you say?
940
00:51:54,697 --> 00:51:56,134
- No, I wouldn't say
they're all teenagers.
941
00:51:56,264 --> 00:51:58,005
No, sir,
they're not teenagers.
942
00:51:58,136 --> 00:51:59,180
There are adults as well.
943
00:51:59,311 --> 00:52:01,269
I mean, there's
everything down there.
944
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,662
There are men, there are
women, there are children,
945
00:52:02,792 --> 00:52:06,883
and very frankly, if you're
white, you are in trouble.
946
00:52:07,014 --> 00:52:10,452
- In the aftermath of it,
there was an effort to address
947
00:52:10,583 --> 00:52:14,891
some of the reasons
why Watts was such a tinderbox.
948
00:52:15,022 --> 00:52:17,894
But because of
the continuing segregation,
949
00:52:18,025 --> 00:52:20,680
continuing deprivation,
but most importantly,
950
00:52:20,810 --> 00:52:24,640
continuing hostility
from the police,
951
00:52:24,771 --> 00:52:27,904
by '68, black people
had had enough.
952
00:52:30,037 --> 00:52:32,213
- And that the only course
for the negroes
953
00:52:32,344 --> 00:52:35,216
is to bring about
954
00:52:35,347 --> 00:52:39,089
a final, violent,
apocalyptic confrontation
955
00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:41,353
of black and white.
956
00:52:41,483 --> 00:52:42,963
- They not gonna fight
down here no more.
957
00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:44,921
You know where they going?
They after the white people.
958
00:52:45,052 --> 00:52:47,228
They're gonna caravan out
in everywhere else
959
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:48,795
the white man
is supposed to stay.
960
00:52:48,925 --> 00:52:51,101
They gonna do
the white man in.
961
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,238
- Something like it happened
962
00:52:57,369 --> 00:53:01,373
in 76 American cities
this summer.
963
00:53:01,503 --> 00:53:04,637
We saw soldiers patrolling
our streets.
964
00:53:04,767 --> 00:53:07,335
We saw stores and houses
in our neighborhoods
965
00:53:07,466 --> 00:53:11,252
that looked as if they'd
been hit by bombs.
966
00:53:11,383 --> 00:53:12,862
Next summer,
it could look like this
967
00:53:12,993 --> 00:53:17,389
in the downtown sections
of our city.
968
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:19,956
It could look like this in the
neighborhood where you live.
969
00:53:22,307 --> 00:53:24,744
The simple fact is this:
970
00:53:24,874 --> 00:53:28,400
We're in the worst crisis we
have known since the Civil War,
971
00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:30,619
and time is running short to
try to find some answers to it.
972
00:53:32,926 --> 00:53:35,189
- If the extremists
can divide the rest us
973
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,278
into two hostile camps,
974
00:53:37,409 --> 00:53:39,933
all of our hopes
for the future will be lost.
975
00:53:40,063 --> 00:53:42,327
- What has been going on
within the United States
976
00:53:42,457 --> 00:53:44,590
over the period
of the last three years,
977
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:48,333
the divisions, the violence,
we can start to work together,
978
00:53:48,463 --> 00:53:50,813
and I intend to make
that my basis for running
979
00:53:50,944 --> 00:53:52,206
over the period
of the next few months.
980
00:53:52,337 --> 00:53:55,818
all: Revolution has come.
981
00:53:55,949 --> 00:53:57,646
all: Off the pigs!
982
00:53:57,777 --> 00:54:00,388
- The majority
of white people
983
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,479
associated rising demands
of African-Americans
984
00:54:04,610 --> 00:54:07,265
with such a deep threat
to the social order
985
00:54:07,395 --> 00:54:09,267
that some
actually thought that
986
00:54:09,397 --> 00:54:11,356
the rise of
the Black Panthers
987
00:54:11,486 --> 00:54:14,315
was a precursor to the arrival
of the Antichrist.
988
00:54:14,446 --> 00:54:15,229
- The Second Amendment of
the Constitution
989
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,753
guarantees the citizen
990
00:54:17,884 --> 00:54:21,017
a right to bear arms
on public property.
991
00:54:22,845 --> 00:54:24,369
- Taking advantage of a law
992
00:54:24,499 --> 00:54:26,762
which authorized
the carrying of visible arms,
993
00:54:26,893 --> 00:54:29,025
patrols of the Black Panther
Party for Self-Defense
994
00:54:29,156 --> 00:54:32,681
cruised in the ghetto
following police cars.
995
00:54:32,812 --> 00:54:34,248
As soon as a black
is arrested,
996
00:54:34,379 --> 00:54:35,771
they check the procedure,
997
00:54:35,902 --> 00:54:37,295
making sure
the law is observed,
998
00:54:37,425 --> 00:54:39,340
and that their brother
knows his rights.
999
00:54:39,471 --> 00:54:42,038
As a result,
the police hate them,
1000
00:54:42,169 --> 00:54:44,389
and the black community
admires them.
1001
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:47,217
- We have to understand
that we're talking about
1002
00:54:47,348 --> 00:54:49,829
our survival
and nothing else,
1003
00:54:49,959 --> 00:54:52,353
whether or not
this beautiful race of people
1004
00:54:52,484 --> 00:54:54,790
is gonna survive
on the Earth,
1005
00:54:54,921 --> 00:54:57,315
that's what
we're talking about.
1006
00:54:57,445 --> 00:54:59,186
- How many white folks
you kill today?
1007
00:55:04,147 --> 00:55:06,193
- There's this sense
that everything
1008
00:55:06,324 --> 00:55:08,021
is about to break loose.
1009
00:55:08,151 --> 00:55:10,415
Something big
is about to happen.
1010
00:55:15,071 --> 00:55:17,247
- A doctor, we need a doctor
right here at the microphone,
1011
00:55:17,378 --> 00:55:19,511
please, immediately.
1012
00:55:19,641 --> 00:55:22,340
- A few months after Martin
Luther King was assassinated,
1013
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:24,298
heir apparent
to the White House,
1014
00:55:24,429 --> 00:55:25,908
Bobby Kennedy was murdered
1015
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,258
in the kitchen
of the Ambassador Hotel.
1016
00:55:32,045 --> 00:55:35,918
And then you have
all these runaway children
1017
00:55:36,049 --> 00:55:39,661
that are the product
of this chaos,
1018
00:55:39,792 --> 00:55:42,055
all the lies, hypocrisy,
1019
00:55:42,185 --> 00:55:44,318
and they're
of course attracted
1020
00:55:44,449 --> 00:55:46,886
to somebody like Charlie,
1021
00:55:47,016 --> 00:55:51,499
who said
society needed to change.
1022
00:55:51,630 --> 00:55:56,417
And also, it's extremely
empowering to them to hear
1023
00:55:56,548 --> 00:55:59,507
that they are going to be
part of the wheels of change.
1024
00:55:59,638 --> 00:56:01,335
all: Revolution has come.
1025
00:56:01,466 --> 00:56:03,946
all: Off the pigs!
1026
00:56:04,077 --> 00:56:08,342
- Manson's response was to try
to start the ultimate race war.
1027
00:56:08,473 --> 00:56:10,213
all: Time to pick up the gun.
1028
00:56:10,344 --> 00:56:12,346
all: Off the pigs!
1029
00:56:22,487 --> 00:56:26,012
- ♪ Cease to exist
1030
00:56:26,142 --> 00:56:28,275
- I heard there was a song
that Dennis and Charlie
1031
00:56:28,406 --> 00:56:30,495
had been working on,
1032
00:56:30,625 --> 00:56:33,019
and that it was gonna go
on one of the albums.
1033
00:56:33,149 --> 00:56:35,935
- ♪ I'm your kind
1034
00:56:36,065 --> 00:56:41,462
♪ Oh your kind and I can see
1035
00:56:41,593 --> 00:56:44,509
♪ Never had a lesson
I ever learned ♪
1036
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:46,467
- The Beach Boys did take
1037
00:56:46,598 --> 00:56:48,295
one of Charlie
Manson's song ideas,
1038
00:56:48,426 --> 00:56:52,430
"Cease to Exist."
1039
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,779
- And they turned it
into a Beach Boys song called
1040
00:56:53,909 --> 00:56:55,868
"Never Learn Not to Love."
1041
00:56:55,998 --> 00:56:58,523
- ♪ Never had a lesson
I ever learned ♪
1042
00:56:58,653 --> 00:57:01,134
- And Dennis took
the songwriting credit,
1043
00:57:01,264 --> 00:57:02,527
but it was written
by Charles Manson.
1044
00:57:02,657 --> 00:57:06,052
- ♪ Learn not to love you
1045
00:57:06,182 --> 00:57:10,448
- Charlie had signed away his
right to the writer's royalty,
1046
00:57:10,578 --> 00:57:12,319
and Dennis also
changed it around,
1047
00:57:12,450 --> 00:57:14,147
which really angered Charlie.
1048
00:57:14,277 --> 00:57:16,454
- You're stealing my music
every day.
1049
00:57:16,584 --> 00:57:18,978
You're writing my songs,
you're playing my game.
1050
00:57:19,108 --> 00:57:21,502
- Charlie really thought that
he had been taken advantage of
1051
00:57:21,633 --> 00:57:25,419
or cheated, or something
had been taken away from him.
1052
00:57:25,550 --> 00:57:28,509
- He was angry,
angry at Dennis,
1053
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,511
and Dennis knew
he was very angry at him,
1054
00:57:30,642 --> 00:57:35,081
because Charlie
sent a bullet to Dennis
1055
00:57:35,211 --> 00:57:37,605
and said, "This is for you,
1056
00:57:37,736 --> 00:57:40,565
and there's other bullets
where this comes from."
1057
00:57:40,695 --> 00:57:44,569
- Dennis was aware enough
of what Charlie was capable of,
1058
00:57:44,699 --> 00:57:48,964
which is why he slept
with a gun under his pillow.
1059
00:57:49,095 --> 00:57:50,923
- When I come up with a song
and they change the words,
1060
00:57:51,053 --> 00:57:52,577
I say don't change the words.
1061
00:57:52,707 --> 00:57:54,143
If you change the words,
1062
00:57:54,274 --> 00:57:55,493
my shadows are running
fast, man.
1063
00:58:06,591 --> 00:58:09,855
- ♪ Once I was blind
but now I see ♪
1064
00:58:09,985 --> 00:58:12,553
♪ Now that you're
in love with me ♪
1065
00:58:12,684 --> 00:58:15,556
♪ You made a believer
out of me babe ♪
1066
00:58:15,687 --> 00:58:18,385
♪ You made a believer
out of me ♪
1067
00:58:18,516 --> 00:58:21,431
♪ I doo right, yoo doo right
1068
00:58:21,562 --> 00:58:24,609
♪ Doo right, yoo doo right
1069
00:58:24,739 --> 00:58:27,220
♪ When they ask what's wrong
you say okay ♪
1070
00:58:29,744 --> 00:58:32,878
♪ I'm in love with my girl,
and she 's away ♪
1071
00:58:35,794 --> 00:58:38,579
♪ Once I was blind,
now I can see ♪
1072
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:41,495
♪ Now that you're
in love with me ♪
1073
00:58:41,626 --> 00:58:43,976
♪ You made a believer
out of me, babe ♪
1074
00:58:45,586 --> 00:58:47,762
- Greg, move your head.
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