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‐ Everywhere you turn,
you're going to find clutter.
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‐ I would describe my father's
house as uninhabitable.
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‐ He's definitely got a problem.
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‐ [Dennis] Judy was
diagnosed with Parkinson's.
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‐ But I think my mom
deserves much better.
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It's hard on my emotions
when I go in there
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and I see that they're
living like that.
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I'm sorry, I can't, I
never saw this like this.
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I mean this is too much.
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‐ It's okay.
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‐ This is the worst thing I
could have ever experienced.
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‐ We're not trying to screw you.
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We're trying to deal with this.
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‐ I'm a broken man, I
have no spirit left!
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You let me down so badly!
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‐ Dennis please, we can leave.
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‐ Dennis is gone,
we need him here.
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No Dennis, no finish.
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‐ I'm Dennis and I am
a retired architect.
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I've never thought of
myself as a hoarder,
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but I'm hoarding, I know that.
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Anyone entering the house
immediately becomes aware
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that there's clutter here.
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I've got hallways that
are crowded to the point
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where you can
barely walk through.
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In the living room,
items are stacked
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on top of one another
almost to the ceiling.
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Items at the bottom
are being crushed.
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Everywhere you turn, you're
going to find clutter.
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The other rooms in the house
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are equally in as bad condition.
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Kitchen area is hardly usable.
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And my bathroom facilities
aren't totally functional.
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I've got three rooms
in the house right now
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that are so full you can't
even get in the doorway.
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They're stuffed full with boxes
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that have things in them
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that I haven't viewed
for the last 12 years.
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Don't know what's
in a lot of them.
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There's just so much,
it's overwhelming.
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‐ I'm Steve, Dennis is my dad.
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I would describe
my father's house
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as uninhabitable at this point
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because of the fact that
there are so many items
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in there that you
can't move around.
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You can't find anything.
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He has managed to fill
every room of the house
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as well as most of
the exterior places.
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The property is
almost half an acre
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and he's managed to bring
in all different types
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of building materials,
collectibles, he's got boats.
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He's got several cars,
he's got lots of tools.
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They're all out in the
way they're being exposed
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and basically being destroyed.
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‐ I'm Pam and
Dennis is my father.
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My father is
definitely a hoarder.
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He can't just have
one of anything.
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He needs to have
five, 10, 20, 100.
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He feels like
everything's a treasure,
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everything has value,
everything has purpose.
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He's definitely got a problem.
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‐ I absolutely do like
to collect things,
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not with the intention of
keeping them all for myself,
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but possibly doing some resale.
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But we never got around
to doing enough of that.
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‐ My father has always believed
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that things have value and
that things can be fixed,
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and he likes to see
things get repurposed.
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But as time has progressed on,
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the accumulation of materials
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has been at a faster rate
than his ability to use them.
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‐ So I have acquired quite a bit
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of sculptural
work, woodcarvings.
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There's a lot of lumber here.
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There are scrap metals,
multiple wheelchairs,
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five motor homes which are
stuffed full with things,
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four of what I refer to as
snack vans or bread trucks,
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over a dozen cars,
including classic cars.
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I will never in my
lifetime get to do
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all that my ambitions
have drawn me into.
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‐ My dad is a dreamer.
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My dad has had aspirations
to do massive major projects.
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He has the capability
to do any one thing.
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The challenge is, I think that
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he gets too big in his dreams
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and doesn't find ways
to moderate those.
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‐ One of the rooms
that I have things in
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is all trains at this point.
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And I probably own almost
every model that they ever made
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and in some cases, duplicates.
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‐ I have probably invested
almost $80,000 in trains.
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I don't do much cooking.
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My main substances right
now are the frozen dinners.
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I use a microwave to cook with.
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I have actually just one
sitting space at the table.
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The rest of the table
is covered with things.
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‐ I think for a long time,
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my dad has been
unwilling to admit
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that his house and his
property is not acceptable.
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He's always felt like
it was not as bad
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as people say or think.
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It's very frustrating.
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‐ He's always made excuses
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for why things are the
way they are over there
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and why he has all
the hoarded materials.
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But at this point, it is
simply out of control.
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‐ I'm Denise, I'm Steve's wife
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and Dennis is my father‐in‐law.
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Dennis' house was
always very cluttered.
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And in an uncomfortable
way, cluttered.
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We've tried over time to
go over there to clean up,
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but then he just
moves new things in
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or it'll last like a day.
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So we've decided we can't
really do anything else
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to help him because he wasn't
willing to accept the help.
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‐ It's a classic story
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of you can only offer
help so many times
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and if somebody's just
not willing to accept it,
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you have to kinda walk away.
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‐ Dennis is an alcoholic also.
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We're afraid he'll
go back to drinking.
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So we felt, at the time,
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that the hoarding was
better than the drinking.
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‐ Unfortunately at this point,
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it's very seldom that
family or friends
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come for any kind of a visit.
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And it's pretty obvious why
I don't invite them over.
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The place isn't very hospitable.
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and the majority
of the relatives
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have no idea what the
conditions are here.
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Right now, there's just
so much everywhere I turn,
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I find something that
should be dealt with
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that I'm just caught in a spin.
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I never wanted it
to be like this.
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But here I am.
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‐ When we were kids,
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the house was nowhere
near what it is today.
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There was nothing of
this magnitude and nature
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when we were growing up.
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‐ Our childhood was very good.
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We had a very good family life.
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My parents have always
had an excellent marriage.
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They got married very young.
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They were high
school sweethearts.
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‐ Judith and I
were first married
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when I was still in college,
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and we've been married for
over 50 years at this point.
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I must say that Judy has
been the love of my life
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from the time I first met her.
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We've been best of friends
throughout the years
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and we've always done
things as a team.
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After our son and
daughter had left home,
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as empty‐nesters,
one of the activities
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that we took pleasure in
was going to flea markets,
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going to thrift stores,
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finding things that we
considered to be treasures.
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The thrill of the hunt was
always the way we saw it
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as something that
we took pleasure in.
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In most cases, it was
our intention to resell
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the things that
we were acquiring,
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knowing that the majority
of it could be sold
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for more than what
we paid for it.
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And we did quite well in
the resale of the items.
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Our house in
Pittsburgh was actually
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about 7,000 square
feet under roof.
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And it did provide for us
to collect a lot of things
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that you wouldn't have
in a smaller house.
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(dramatic music)
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Judith was diagnosed
with the Parkinson's
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about three years
before I retired
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and before we left Pittsburgh.
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We were very fortunate for years
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that the medicine
helped us go through
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and keep her as
functional as possible.
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‐ In the early days, there
were so many good days
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and very few bad days.
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‐ Initially, when
you're diagnosed,
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it starts out a
little bit slower
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but it is a life‐changer.
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‐ It was around the time
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that Judy was diagnosed
with the Parkinson's
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that we decided to
come to California
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to get closer to
our grandchildren
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and our son and daughter.
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‐ When my parents decided
to relocate to California,
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my dad decided to
handle the move
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and the relocation himself.
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‐ My father bought a bunch
of defunct bread trucks
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and motor homes and basically
filled them to the brim.
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‐ [] And hired a crew
of guys to actually move
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all of his worldly possessions
across the country.
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‐ He did about eight
trips and spent probably
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somewhere to the tune
of about 80000 dollars.
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‐ He had aspirations of
selling off all these trucks
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and making back all the money,
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but here we are 10 years later
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and the trucks are
still full mostly
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with the stuff that he
brought from Pittsburgh.
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‐ Part of the reason
that I've been reluctant
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to separate from the things
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is because I do have a
lot of money tied up.
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So we brought it here
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and that was a terrible mistake.
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(suspenseful music)
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‐ I didn't bring it
in a little at a time.
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It came in as an
overwhelming abundance.
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At this point, what I was
considering to be assets
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have become true liabilities.
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‐ I'm very sad at
the amount of money,
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and time, and effort
that my father has spent.
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And he has drained his
savings down significantly
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as a result of all this.
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‐ I will have to acknowledge
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I have mistakenly invested
heavily, to the point
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where our retirement funds
were put in jeopardy.
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‐ I wouldn't be able
to put an exact amount
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on the amount that he's
spent on the hoarding,
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but I will say that
it could be somewhere
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half a million to
a million dollars.
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(dramatic music)
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‐ Okay, nice and easy now.
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Come on, you're
coming up to the step.
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At this point in time,
I need to help my wife
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with almost every life activity.
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It actually has
become very difficult
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to get my wife from the bed
to the living room space.
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Okay, stand up until
I get you there.
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I try to assist her in
walking as often as I can
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but things have just
become so crowded.
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I'm gonna have to acknowledge
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that this is probably
not a safe environment
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for even an able‐bodied person.
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‐ He is pretty much her
full‐time caregiver.
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My mother just has
to be monitored 24/7.
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It's constant intensive care.
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‐ It's too cold?
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I have to take care of
all her body functions
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and do her feedings,
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which at this point
are a liquid nutrient
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that is put in through a pump.
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‐ Things have progressed
quite significantly
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and she's lost a
lot of the mobility
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that she used to have
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and she doesn't have a
lot of the same ability
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to socialize and communicate
with us like we used to.
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‐ Oh, you're saying to
no, okay, I'm sorry.
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‐ So it's hard, it wears on you.
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‐ [Dennis] What would
you like to watch?
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‐ It's just very difficult.
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It's hard on my emotions
when I go in there
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and I see that they're
living like that.
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I think my mom
deserves much better,
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and while we've tried
to have people come in
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to help with assisting with care
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for my mother and cleaning,
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frankly, no one
will enter the house
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because it's too cluttered.
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It's a safety hazard.
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They're afraid to
administer shots
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and things like that in
there if they needed to.
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It's just unsanitary.
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‐ You okay with what I
have on on the television?
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‐ It's frustrated me that
my dad has not prioritized
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getting our house in a condition
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where we could bring
in an outside caregiver
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to support my mom and him,
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and I think they
desperately need it.
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(suspenseful music)
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‐ Code Enforcement started
contacting my father
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approximately six years ago.
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And as his hoarding
has gotten worse,
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they issued him some pretty
significant citations and fines.
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And now they are coming
back with an ultimatum
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that he must clean it up.
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And they were very concerned
about my mother's wellbeing,
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so Adult Protective Services
from the county came in
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and they're gravely concerned
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about the welfare of my mother
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in the conditions she's
living in right now.
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‐ At this point in time,
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in order to satisfy the
City Code Enforcement group,
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we have to clean up both
the outside of the house
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and the inside of the house.
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‐ There's a great
sense of urgency
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around getting my parents house
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and property cleaned up now.
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It's gotten to a point
where it's at the end game.
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We're in a critical state,
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where if he doesn't make amends
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to this house on this property,
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the city's gonna take it.
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(dramatic music)
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‐ It scares me to think
that my parents might
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lose their house if they
don't remediate the property.
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And that it's come to
this state of crisis.
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It's scary to think
that they're living
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this close to the edge
in a last ditch effort
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to resolve it before
things go completely south.
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‐ I'm very concerned about
the condition of my home.
305
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I'm just not living in a safe
environment at this point.
306
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I know that I need to clean
up things soon as possible.
307
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But one man against this
amount is just hopeless.
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‐ Hi,
‐ I'm Dr. Michael Tompkins.
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‐ Oh, nice to meet you.
‐ Very nice to meet you.
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‐ Would you like to come in?
‐ I would like to come in.
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I'm Dr. Michael Tompkins.
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I'm a psychologist
and I specialize
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in the treatment of
hoarding disorder.
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So this is the living room.
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‐ This is it, you can see
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that I have an
abundance of things here
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that don't belong.
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I recognize that at this point.
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‐ What is the hardest thing
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about living here
right now as it is?
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‐ Just to the point where
I'm so dissatisfied,
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I can't walk through the
aisles are too narrow.
323
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I'm bumping things over,
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my assets have
become liabilities.
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‐ It's very clear to me
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that Dennis realizes that he has
327
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put too much attention
on the stuff.
328
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Which is very insightful
and very promising.
329
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When was the moment
that you said,
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this is not any way to live?
331
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‐ Prior to the code
enforcement even coming back.
332
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And I think that's probably why
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I'm more ready to accept
that at this point.
334
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I just got to the
point where I realized
335
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that all of the ambitions
that I had for projects,
336
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I'm not ever gonna
get to any of that.
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So that it's not gonna
serve any purpose.
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‐ Part of what the letting go
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is going to bring up for you,
340
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is letting go of these plans
that you had for things.
341
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It's a dream that in a sense.
342
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‐ I'm a dreamer.
‐ Yeah?
343
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‐ I was an architect
344
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and I'm creatively
thinking all the time.
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‐ That's right.
346
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‐ He has something
that's very common
347
00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:14,200
for people with
hoarding disorder.
348
00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:16,118
He's a very creative thinker.
349
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And so he's always thinking
about how to use things.
350
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I can see that's
gonna be coming up
351
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a lot when you make decisions.
352
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What percentage of this
stuff do you think,
353
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you need to let go of?
354
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And what percentage of the stuff
355
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do you think you will let go of?
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‐ I can see letting go
of almost 80 to 90%.
357
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I'm ready to see it cleared out.
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‐ That's a lot.
359
00:17:39,976 --> 00:17:42,019
I've never actually
seen someone do that.
360
00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:43,312
So we'll have to see.
361
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‐ I understand that
there'll be things leaving,
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that I may may wish I had.
363
00:17:48,442 --> 00:17:50,486
‐ So then, you're
already anticipating
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that you may have some
feelings of regret.
365
00:17:53,197 --> 00:17:56,033
‐ Yes, I'm talking about tools,
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‐ Okay.
‐ Utilitarian things
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that I might need for a project.
368
00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:01,706
That's my primary
interest at this point.
369
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‐ So part of the loss
that's gonna come up for you
370
00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,502
is just letting go of that.
371
00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:09,714
Dennis definitely suffers
from hoarding disorder.
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And the reason I say that,
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is not just the amount of stuff,
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show me another area
of the house will you?
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‐ Okay.
376
00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:18,055
‐ But he shared
many common beliefs
377
00:18:18,139 --> 00:18:20,141
that people with
hoarding disorder have.
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‐ As you can see the
clutter continues into here.
379
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I sit here and I, along with
using this as a desk area,
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I eat at this point.
381
00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:32,445
One of the main reasons
that I have set up
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this way is my
wife's bedroom area
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is right behind you.
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And when she's in need,
385
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I can hear her
signaling me easily.
386
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‐ Tell me what a
typical day like
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is in your home
for you and Judy?
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‐ Well, I get up at
the crack of dawn
389
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and I'm outside trying
to shift things around.
390
00:18:52,673 --> 00:18:53,966
Create some order.
391
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Maybe an hour outside
392
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and then I come in
and check on Judy.
393
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And administer her medications.
394
00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:03,434
I'll change diapers,
395
00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:08,397
change the ostomy bag out
and get her comfortable.
396
00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:09,315
Walk around.
397
00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:11,067
‐ So I'm just feeling so sad
398
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:14,111
hearing this story
about how ill Judy is.
399
00:19:15,529 --> 00:19:16,489
‐ It's what it is.
400
00:19:16,572 --> 00:19:18,824
‐ I know, but it's so
sad I mean she's so ill,
401
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:20,201
‐ I know, but.
402
00:19:20,284 --> 00:19:21,410
‐ how sad has it been for you?
‐ I know.
403
00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:22,995
I know that if it were me
404
00:19:23,037 --> 00:19:24,580
she would be doing
the same thing.
405
00:19:24,705 --> 00:19:26,749
‐ I'm sure, I'm sure.
406
00:19:26,874 --> 00:19:27,958
It's really very
difficult for me
407
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,672
to imagine just how difficult
every day is for Dennis.
408
00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:33,881
It would be a sad situation
409
00:19:33,964 --> 00:19:35,966
if their home was
pristine and neat.
410
00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:37,718
How long has she been this ill?
411
00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:38,803
‐ She's been in this state
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00:19:38,928 --> 00:19:40,137
for about two
years at this point
413
00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:42,973
and it's getting
progressively worse.
414
00:19:43,057 --> 00:19:44,558
Each day it becomes
more difficult
415
00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:47,520
for her to negotiate out
to the living room area.
416
00:19:47,603 --> 00:19:49,355
Unfortunately, she's
to the point now
417
00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:51,482
where she's not conversant.
418
00:19:52,441 --> 00:19:54,026
She can't do anything,
she can't rest
419
00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:56,529
She can't, take
her body functions.
420
00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:58,656
‐ She's like a 100%
dependent upon you?
421
00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:00,991
‐ Absolutely.
‐ Yeah, I'm so sorry Dennis.
422
00:20:01,075 --> 00:20:06,414
As you tell me about what a
day is like for you and Judy,
423
00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,251
It just, I feel sad about this,
424
00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:11,711
It sounds so hard.
425
00:20:12,962 --> 00:20:14,839
What is this like for you?
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00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:16,048
‐ At this point,
427
00:20:16,132 --> 00:20:20,010
it is a routine that
I have come to accept.
428
00:20:20,136 --> 00:20:22,680
Truthfully it was
in previous times
429
00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:27,935
that I had the greatest
fear, sadness, anxiety,
430
00:20:29,145 --> 00:20:31,981
anticipating where we might
wind up at some point in time.
431
00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:33,691
We are there now.
432
00:20:33,774 --> 00:20:35,568
There isn't much more
that can go wrong.
433
00:20:35,651 --> 00:20:40,030
‐ Absolutely, when
you look at Judy now,
434
00:20:40,156 --> 00:20:41,824
what do you miss about the Judy?
435
00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:44,785
Because I can only imagine
436
00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:45,995
what that comes up for you
437
00:20:46,036 --> 00:20:48,622
‐ Having been partners and
best friends all of our life,
438
00:20:50,124 --> 00:20:51,709
There's an absence
at this point.
439
00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:54,795
‐ So now you look at her
440
00:20:54,879 --> 00:20:57,757
and there so little of the Judy
441
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,218
that you know, that you knew.
‐ Exactly.
442
00:21:01,302 --> 00:21:02,219
‐ That you fell in love with.
443
00:21:02,303 --> 00:21:03,971
‐ I sit on the couch at times
444
00:21:04,013 --> 00:21:05,639
and while she's not aware of it,
445
00:21:05,723 --> 00:21:09,643
I'm looking at her,
still admiring her beauty
446
00:21:09,685 --> 00:21:12,062
and wishing to God
that she was back
447
00:21:12,146 --> 00:21:14,690
to the level that
she had been at.
448
00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:15,816
All through her life.
449
00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:18,861
She could go into a room
of complete strangers
450
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:19,570
and within 10 minutes,
451
00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:21,989
you'd think she knew everybody.
452
00:21:22,072 --> 00:21:23,365
‐ And that's something.
453
00:21:23,449 --> 00:21:25,367
‐ She just engaged people.
‐ She would light up a room.
454
00:21:25,451 --> 00:21:26,494
‐ Oh, absolutely.
455
00:21:26,535 --> 00:21:27,995
‐ And that light it's
not there anymore.
456
00:21:28,078 --> 00:21:29,497
‐ There's nothing there.
457
00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:31,332
I'm told that by
the dermatologist
458
00:21:31,415 --> 00:21:34,460
that there's just nothing
more she can offer me.
459
00:21:34,502 --> 00:21:37,004
And Judy had at
one point in time,
460
00:21:37,087 --> 00:21:38,756
asked me if it all possible
461
00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:40,800
to keep her at home
rather than put her
462
00:21:40,883 --> 00:21:44,637
into an institution
type of facility.
463
00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:46,972
And I'm trying to
live up to that.
464
00:21:47,014 --> 00:21:49,266
‐ But Dennis, I'm deeply touched
465
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:52,228
and overwhelmed
for you and Judy.
466
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:55,147
‐ I think other people
feel more sadness
467
00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:57,483
for me than I feel I deserve.
468
00:21:57,566 --> 00:22:01,153
Honestly, I just, this
is what needs to be done.
469
00:22:01,237 --> 00:22:02,488
‐ Sounds like loyalty.
470
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,495
‐ We've always been best
friends, good partners,
471
00:22:09,578 --> 00:22:12,998
we worked as a team and raised
472
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,543
a wonderful daughter and son.
473
00:22:17,294 --> 00:22:19,171
Those are, have to say
474
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my greatest satisfaction
at this point.
475
00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:22,550
‐ That's right.
476
00:22:22,633 --> 00:22:24,134
You know at the end of the day,
477
00:22:24,218 --> 00:22:26,470
it's those attachments to people
478
00:22:26,554 --> 00:22:29,181
that we love and who love us.
479
00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:31,267
It's way more important.
480
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:32,434
‐ Absolutely.
481
00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:34,728
‐ In my opinion,
‐ Unfortunately,
482
00:22:34,812 --> 00:22:38,399
I've focus too much on the
material aspects of life.
483
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,526
‐ So is part of your motivation,
484
00:22:40,609 --> 00:22:45,739
also to make this situation
easier for her to...
485
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,159
‐ I want her to be as
comfortable as possible.
486
00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:52,204
‐ But we're gonna
do everything we can
487
00:22:52,288 --> 00:22:54,915
to help you make that happen.
488
00:22:54,999 --> 00:22:56,625
But at the end of the day,
489
00:22:56,709 --> 00:22:59,253
it's your stuff and you
make your decisions.
490
00:22:59,336 --> 00:23:01,338
And I'm gonna be
here to help you.
491
00:23:01,463 --> 00:23:04,008
But what happens
or doesn't happen
492
00:23:04,091 --> 00:23:06,635
is ultimately up to you, okay?
493
00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:08,470
It's clear to me that
why he's doing this.
494
00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:10,556
Is his loyalty to his wife
495
00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:12,766
and his loyalty to
taking care of her.
496
00:23:12,850 --> 00:23:15,352
And I think as Judy
faces mortality,
497
00:23:15,436 --> 00:23:17,438
mortality is right
in Dennis's face.
498
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,566
Maybe that's a wake
up call for Dennis.
499
00:23:34,538 --> 00:23:36,332
‐ My son and daughter
and daughter in law
500
00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:37,791
have all expressed concern
501
00:23:37,875 --> 00:23:40,461
for the conditions that I've
allowed to develop here.
502
00:23:40,544 --> 00:23:42,463
They are certainly concerned
503
00:23:42,546 --> 00:23:45,132
for my wife's health
and our ability
504
00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:47,134
to move her around
within the home.
505
00:23:47,176 --> 00:23:49,511
I just know that
there's so much here
506
00:23:49,595 --> 00:23:51,055
that is gonna have
to be dealt with,
507
00:23:51,138 --> 00:23:53,432
that it overwhelms me at times.
508
00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:56,518
So it's time to just
release, let go,
509
00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:58,646
try to turn over a
new leaf in life.
510
00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:10,658
‐ Hello,
‐ Hi there.
511
00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:12,242
‐ Hello
‐ How are you men,
512
00:24:12,326 --> 00:24:13,661
nice to meet you.
‐ Good to meet you.
513
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,413
I am Matt Paxton, I'm an
extreme cleaning specialist.
514
00:24:16,497 --> 00:24:18,749
Alright introduced me to
everybody else who is it?
515
00:24:18,832 --> 00:24:19,833
‐ I'm Linda.
516
00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:20,960
‐ Linda and you are,
how are you related?
517
00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:24,129
I am Denise's mother.
‐ The mother in law?
518
00:24:24,171 --> 00:24:25,381
‐ Yes.
‐ Okay.
519
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:27,549
‐ I am Denise.
‐ Denise, good to meet you.
520
00:24:27,675 --> 00:24:31,512
Okay, so this is like,
really, really serious.
521
00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:33,514
I was able to read
the code violation
522
00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:34,974
and it's very serious.
523
00:24:35,015 --> 00:24:36,850
They want this
whole yard emptied.
524
00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:39,645
I haven't toured the
entire property yet,
525
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:42,314
but just looking behind you two.
526
00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:44,692
I mean, it just keeps
going and going.
527
00:24:44,775 --> 00:24:46,819
This is a packed yard.
528
00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:50,030
I see stacks and stacks and
stacks of wood and metal.
529
00:24:50,114 --> 00:24:53,283
(dramatic music)
530
00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:55,244
This is top 10 for me.
531
00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:57,121
So Steve, what do you know
about the code violation?
532
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,331
‐ So when I met with the
Code Enforcement Department,
533
00:24:59,373 --> 00:25:00,958
they indicated that
first and foremost,
534
00:25:01,041 --> 00:25:02,543
the front yard needs
to be cleared out.
535
00:25:02,626 --> 00:25:04,294
And they were also
very concerned
536
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,462
about my mother's well being
537
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:06,797
and they said secondary needs
538
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,632
to be the inside of the house.
539
00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,301
And last step in our backyard.
540
00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:12,594
They basically said it needs
541
00:25:12,678 --> 00:25:14,638
to happen and it
needs to happen now.
542
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,473
‐ Can you understand why?
543
00:25:16,557 --> 00:25:18,475
‐ Yes, yes, absolutely, yeah.
544
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,186
‐ Like the piles, I mean,
they're as high as you are.
545
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:23,313
I mean, I'm looking.
‐ Yes.
546
00:25:23,397 --> 00:25:24,732
‐ But he organized 'em so well,
547
00:25:24,815 --> 00:25:26,608
I can see there's wood
here, there's metal there.
548
00:25:26,692 --> 00:25:28,277
I mean, he's got
it all organized.
549
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,487
Which fits the brain that
I talked to on the phone.
550
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:34,033
I mean, he's brilliant man,
which makes this harder.
551
00:25:34,825 --> 00:25:36,160
Because you and I see this,
552
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,745
what do you see when you
look around all behind you?
553
00:25:37,828 --> 00:25:39,246
What do you see?
‐ Junk.
554
00:25:39,329 --> 00:25:40,330
‐ Junk.
‐ Junk.
555
00:25:40,414 --> 00:25:41,915
‐ And what does your dad see?
556
00:25:41,999 --> 00:25:43,959
‐ He sees value, he
sees collectibles.
557
00:25:44,001 --> 00:25:44,585
‐ Potential.
558
00:25:44,668 --> 00:25:45,961
‐ Yes, he's potential.
559
00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:48,672
‐ And so that's the
really hard part here.
560
00:25:48,756 --> 00:25:52,217
The only way, only way to
help a hoarder like Dennis,
561
00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:54,636
is to focus on the true crisis,
562
00:25:54,762 --> 00:25:56,346
which is his wife's health.
563
00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:58,015
Good news is he
really loves your mom.
564
00:25:58,098 --> 00:26:00,893
‐ Yes, he does.
‐ He has real motivation.
565
00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:02,895
He's told me I can
take everything,
566
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:05,147
which I won't believe (laughs)
567
00:26:05,272 --> 00:26:06,565
‐ We don't believe it either.
568
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,358
‐ But if he lets me take
half or 75% we'll be okay.
569
00:26:08,442 --> 00:26:09,234
‐ Yeah.
‐ I never know
570
00:26:09,318 --> 00:26:10,152
how these are gonna go.
571
00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:11,111
He's either gonna let us clean
572
00:26:11,195 --> 00:26:12,321
the whole yard really easy,
573
00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:15,449
or he's gonna fight on every
nail on every piece of wood.
574
00:26:15,532 --> 00:26:17,826
And what he says may
not be what happens.
575
00:26:17,868 --> 00:26:20,496
And so we'll see
when we get started.
576
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:21,663
I'd like to go in
inside the house.
577
00:26:21,789 --> 00:26:23,165
Do you guys want to go
in and see it with me?
578
00:26:23,207 --> 00:26:24,041
‐ Absolutely, sure.
579
00:26:24,124 --> 00:26:25,626
‐ You've been inside.
‐ Yes, I have.
580
00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:26,877
‐ Have you been inside?
‐ I have.
581
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,629
‐ All right and you
have not been inside?
582
00:26:28,712 --> 00:26:31,340
Okay, I have not seen
the inside of the house.
583
00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:33,967
I was told it's as
bad as the outside.
584
00:26:34,843 --> 00:26:35,969
‐ Yes.
585
00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:38,263
‐ All right, I'm gonna let
you lead us into the house.
586
00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:39,848
‐ Okay, oh my God.
587
00:26:46,355 --> 00:26:48,857
Oh, you've gotta be kidding.
588
00:26:51,235 --> 00:26:54,113
Oh Lord, oh boy.
589
00:26:54,196 --> 00:26:56,281
‐ All right, hang
right there for me.
590
00:26:56,365 --> 00:26:58,283
Are you okay?
‐ Yeah.
591
00:26:58,367 --> 00:26:59,576
‐ You look rather shocked.
592
00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:02,121
‐ Well yeah, I
mean I was warned,
593
00:27:02,204 --> 00:27:04,998
but you can't really
be warned for this.
594
00:27:05,082 --> 00:27:08,794
‐ This is really
sad, really sad.
595
00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:09,545
I mean...
596
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,672
‐ This is where they watch TV.
597
00:27:11,755 --> 00:27:13,465
‐ This is where they hang out.
598
00:27:13,507 --> 00:27:14,800
‐ So you call that the cockpit?
599
00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:17,845
This is their safest
space in the home.
600
00:27:19,221 --> 00:27:21,223
So this is their happy place.
601
00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:22,391
‐ This is sad.
602
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:23,809
‐ This is sadness,
this is depression.
603
00:27:23,892 --> 00:27:26,937
This is sickness. I mean,
this is not a choice.
604
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:31,150
‐ No, no, this is really bad.
605
00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:36,363
‐ So you know them very well.
606
00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:37,865
I mean, they're amazing people.
607
00:27:37,948 --> 00:27:41,160
‐ Amazing people and talking
to them away from here.
608
00:27:41,243 --> 00:27:43,996
You would have absolutely
no idea they live like this.
609
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:45,497
No idea.
610
00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:46,665
‐ I want to keep telling you
611
00:27:46,707 --> 00:27:48,667
this is an example of his brain.
612
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,171
His brain is this
full of good ideas.
613
00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:57,342
This is the physical
manifestation of all his ideas.
614
00:27:57,426 --> 00:27:58,552
I'm freaking out a little bit,
615
00:27:58,635 --> 00:28:01,138
I gotta clean this
and the outside now.
616
00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:04,641
I mean, this itself
is a four day job,
617
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,269
‐ It's a lot of work,
there's a lot here.
618
00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:09,062
‐ This is a bad situation.
619
00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,940
Mathematically, it's
not really doable.
620
00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:13,901
There's a ton of
work here to do.
621
00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:16,904
Did your dad or before
your mom got sick?
622
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:18,780
‐ At some level,
623
00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:20,365
but it's gotten
progressively worse.
624
00:28:20,449 --> 00:28:21,658
And I think it's been something
625
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,328
to help him fill
a void or a need.
626
00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:27,831
As a result of my mom's health
condition deteriorating.
627
00:28:27,873 --> 00:28:29,082
‐ [Matt] And this is what,
628
00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:29,958
how long they've been here?
‐ Eight years.
629
00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:31,293
‐ Eight years!
‐ Yeah.
630
00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,963
‐ I mean, that is, dude
I've seen some things
631
00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:37,507
and to do this much
volume in eight years,
632
00:28:37,591 --> 00:28:39,468
is a full time job.
633
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:40,636
‐ I agree.
634
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,512
‐ Alright, so I do want
to go see the bedroom
635
00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:43,513
and then I'm gonna make a plan.
636
00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:45,307
I'm starting to shift my needs.
637
00:28:45,349 --> 00:28:46,516
Now that I See the inside.
638
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,643
‐ Okay?
‐ So I'm gonna let you
639
00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:49,144
lead us that way.
640
00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:50,270
We'll check that out.
641
00:28:50,354 --> 00:28:51,188
‐ Okay.
‐ All right.
642
00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:51,813
‐ That's good.
643
00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:54,274
(dramatic rock music)
644
00:28:54,358 --> 00:28:55,359
‐ Oh my God!
645
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:56,235
Oh my God!
646
00:28:57,527 --> 00:28:58,654
Oh my God!
647
00:28:58,737 --> 00:28:59,821
‐ Everything was pretty good
648
00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:01,198
until we got into the bedroom.
649
00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:03,659
And the bedroom is when we
just fell off the rails.
650
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:04,993
Alright, this is
where they're living.
651
00:29:05,077 --> 00:29:06,995
(bleep)
652
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:11,750
‐ This is bad, holy cow.
653
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:12,960
‐ How are y'all feeling?
654
00:29:13,001 --> 00:29:14,544
This is tough, you
look devastated.
655
00:29:14,628 --> 00:29:15,963
‐ I am.
656
00:29:16,046 --> 00:29:17,798
‐ I'm gonna assume
right off the bat,
657
00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:19,174
you didn't know it was this bad.
658
00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:22,970
‐ I did not, no.
659
00:29:23,053 --> 00:29:26,974
‐ We would never have
allowed this, never.
660
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:28,976
‐ It makes me very sad
661
00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:31,228
that she's currently
living in those conditions.
662
00:29:32,187 --> 00:29:33,730
Had I known, I
would have jumped in
663
00:29:33,814 --> 00:29:35,732
and done something
right away immediately.
664
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:38,235
I mean, my skin is
crawling right now.
665
00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:47,619
‐ Look, it is what it is.
666
00:29:47,703 --> 00:29:49,121
‐ I know it's just
really hard to see.
667
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:51,707
‐ Talk me through
this, you're his son,
668
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:54,126
you love your parents,
they're amazing people.
669
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:57,879
‐ I can't, I never
saw this like this.
670
00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:01,133
I mean, this is too much.
671
00:30:01,174 --> 00:30:04,469
This is too much if
I ever had any idea,
672
00:30:04,511 --> 00:30:07,055
what's going on in
here, I'm sorry.
673
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:10,892
‐ [Matt] It's okay.
(sobbing)
674
00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,603
‐ God, I mean it's
just with the lights
675
00:30:13,687 --> 00:30:14,896
and everything as you see.
676
00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:15,939
I mean, it's
usually dark in here
677
00:30:16,023 --> 00:30:18,150
'cause my mom's sleeping.
678
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:20,027
To see it all it's
just really hard.
679
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:21,737
‐ It's very common
for a good hoarder
680
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,990
to be able to hide this
from their family members.
681
00:30:25,073 --> 00:30:27,326
Right, They'll say,
mom's getting dressed.
682
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:29,494
I don't want you to go
into the room, right?
683
00:30:29,578 --> 00:30:30,704
'Cause they know how bad it is.
684
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:33,206
So they don't want you
as a son, to see it.
685
00:30:34,041 --> 00:30:36,168
‐ This is just not not for her.
686
00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:39,046
She doesn't deserve this.
‐ We'll do it getting better.
687
00:30:39,129 --> 00:30:40,047
‐ No, no!
688
00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:42,549
‐ We're fixing it, we're
fixing it.
689
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:43,800
‐ Hang in there honey.
690
00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,344
‐ It's getting better okay?
691
00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:46,636
‐ [Matt] I'm gonna let
y'all go.
692
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,180
‐ Okay, Matt.
693
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,725
‐ I know this is super hard.
694
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:53,101
‐ It's really hard.
‐ I know it is.
695
00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:55,187
Alright, we're gonna
make this better
696
00:30:55,312 --> 00:30:56,438
‐ Thank you
697
00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:57,606
‐ And you're included,
698
00:30:57,689 --> 00:30:59,524
We're all gonna
do this together.
699
00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:00,525
Let's go outside, I'll give you
700
00:31:00,609 --> 00:31:02,277
a few minute break, just relax.
701
00:31:02,361 --> 00:31:03,320
‐ Thank you.
702
00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:07,824
‐ We've got to make a safe
place for Judith to live.
703
00:31:07,908 --> 00:31:09,868
So we've got to
find a way to do it.
704
00:31:09,993 --> 00:31:12,412
But this is going to
be incredibly hard.
705
00:31:12,496 --> 00:31:15,540
(gentle piano music)
706
00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:29,805
This is absolutely a
serious hoarding situation.
707
00:31:29,846 --> 00:31:31,139
For us to save this house
708
00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:33,350
and to make it
safe for his wife,
709
00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:37,062
he's gotta pretty much let
us do what we want to do.
710
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:39,564
If Dennis fights this at all,
711
00:31:39,648 --> 00:31:41,483
we can't help this family.
712
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:57,332
‐ Good morning everybody?
‐ [Crowd] Good morning.
713
00:31:57,416 --> 00:31:59,418
‐ It's a lot of
people here Dennis.
714
00:31:59,501 --> 00:32:00,293
‐ They are.
715
00:32:00,377 --> 00:32:01,294
‐ Big crew big job.
716
00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:02,170
How are you feeling?
717
00:32:02,254 --> 00:32:04,589
‐ I'm feeling fine right now.
718
00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:07,050
I'm ready, I need tthe help.
719
00:32:07,134 --> 00:32:10,011
Everyone here wants to make
a safe space for your wife.
720
00:32:10,095 --> 00:32:11,471
‐ I appreciate that very much.
721
00:32:11,555 --> 00:32:13,306
‐ Okay and we want to help you.
722
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:16,393
Junk guys, organizers,
we got our hands full.
723
00:32:16,476 --> 00:32:19,312
Normally we pick
inside or outside.
724
00:32:19,354 --> 00:32:21,481
We got to do both, this is real.
725
00:32:21,565 --> 00:32:22,899
I mean, this is very serious.
726
00:32:22,983 --> 00:32:24,693
Code Enforcement's
made it very clear.
727
00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:27,154
We got to basically start
at the front of the property
728
00:32:27,237 --> 00:32:28,738
and go all the way to the back.
729
00:32:28,822 --> 00:32:30,365
That includes the
inside of the house.
730
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,033
What are your
thoughts and concerns,
731
00:32:32,117 --> 00:32:33,785
before we get started?
732
00:32:33,869 --> 00:32:35,328
‐ I don't have any concerns.
733
00:32:35,412 --> 00:32:38,165
I'm more angry at myself
for letting this happen,
734
00:32:38,874 --> 00:32:40,417
letting it get to this point.
735
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:44,504
‐ Family, any thoughts?
736
00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:45,922
‐ We have to do this.
737
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:50,010
This has been long incoming.
738
00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:54,473
My mom deserves a
safe place to be.
739
00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:57,017
We wanted to do this
for a long time.
740
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,312
And my dad wasn't ready.
741
00:33:00,395 --> 00:33:03,690
And so, we're grateful
that he's now ready,
742
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:04,983
because that's the only thing
743
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:07,319
that's going to
make this happen.
744
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,655
And since his willingness
and support to get it done.
745
00:33:11,865 --> 00:33:15,368
‐ We all see that
you're not safe
746
00:33:15,452 --> 00:33:19,289
and Judy's not safe living in
this environment any longer.
747
00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:22,834
And I really want you to
kind of like see that.
748
00:33:22,876 --> 00:33:25,045
Because it's really important
749
00:33:25,128 --> 00:33:27,380
that we solve that
problem for you.
750
00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:30,884
‐ Alright, I think
we can do this man,
751
00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:32,135
(mumbles)
752
00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:33,845
Thank you for
letting us even try.
753
00:33:33,929 --> 00:33:35,222
‐ You don't know how
much of a blessing
754
00:33:35,305 --> 00:33:36,139
I feel this is
‐ Well,
755
00:33:36,223 --> 00:33:37,182
let's talk in three days.
756
00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:38,683
‐ I appreciate it.
(laughs)
757
00:33:38,767 --> 00:33:41,019
It won't change,
it will not change.
758
00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:42,187
‐ All right, this is old school.
759
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:43,355
Let's put our hands in.
760
00:33:43,438 --> 00:33:45,148
We got this organizers
everybody, come on in,
761
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:47,484
we can do this, one, two three,
762
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:48,944
(crowd shouts)
763
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,697
(dramatic percussive music)
764
00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:56,826
‐ Normally I would
only start in one area,
765
00:33:56,910 --> 00:33:58,245
but just because of
the sheer volume,
766
00:33:58,328 --> 00:34:00,872
we've got to start both
inside and outside.
767
00:34:00,956 --> 00:34:03,124
Let me get my junk
guys started outside
768
00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:05,710
and I'm going to get my
organizers started inside.
769
00:34:09,005 --> 00:34:11,675
(wood cracking)
770
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:17,264
This morning is really
just about building trust
771
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:19,474
and seeing where that goes.
772
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:21,142
so far plan's working.
773
00:34:21,184 --> 00:34:22,269
The organizing are
banging through,
774
00:34:22,352 --> 00:34:23,812
they're sorting everything,
775
00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,647
junk guys are moving
things in and out.
776
00:34:25,689 --> 00:34:27,232
Both groups are working fast,
777
00:34:27,315 --> 00:34:29,985
but we need more space
to tear apart this hoard.
778
00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:31,278
The one problem we're
starting to have
779
00:34:31,361 --> 00:34:33,321
is there's no room
to put anything.
780
00:34:38,326 --> 00:34:41,204
Hey guys, we have like
an actual problem.
781
00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:43,665
You guys are doing so good
782
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,168
that I have nowhere to put
all this stuff outside.
783
00:34:47,252 --> 00:34:49,004
So I need you to like
chill for 10 minutes.
784
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:50,964
I've gotta make space outside.
785
00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:51,965
If you can...
786
00:34:52,048 --> 00:34:53,800
‐ How much room you need.
787
00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:55,468
‐ Well I'm about
to move a huge RV.
788
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:58,305
(dramatic music)
789
00:35:13,361 --> 00:35:14,654
This is probably
the most successful
790
00:35:14,696 --> 00:35:15,488
first hours we've ever had.
791
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:16,656
I mean we've already cleared out
792
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,118
almost four trucks and
taking about 2000 pounds
793
00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:22,037
of metal out of his house.
794
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,788
This is a challenge.
795
00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:24,998
It's such a dense hoard,
796
00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:27,751
that anytime you move
anything, it just grows.
797
00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:29,502
We have a tractor in here now.
798
00:35:29,586 --> 00:35:30,670
We're doing a lot.
799
00:35:30,754 --> 00:35:32,547
There's just so much stuff here
800
00:35:32,631 --> 00:35:35,508
that it doesn't even look
like we're doing anything.
801
00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:40,221
‐ Can we let someone
else enjoy this?
802
00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:41,431
‐ Emma would love them.
803
00:35:41,514 --> 00:35:43,141
‐ I was gonna wear
those for Halloween
804
00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:45,602
but it passed without
my finding them.
805
00:35:45,685 --> 00:35:47,354
‐ Someone else's treasure.
‐ Yes.
806
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:50,482
‐ Dennis has being
entirely too cooperative.
807
00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:52,317
For the first day of hoarding.
808
00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:53,443
I've seen this in the past
809
00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:55,570
where he's gonna say
yes to everything.
810
00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:56,655
‐ That can go.
811
00:35:56,696 --> 00:35:58,490
‐ The bad news about
this is tonight,
812
00:35:58,531 --> 00:36:00,492
when we leave, he is
going to freak out.
813
00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:02,619
This is scary, he's gotta
push back a little bit,
814
00:36:02,702 --> 00:36:04,871
or it means he's not
taking it seriously.
815
00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,081
‐ Can we e‐waste this?
816
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:07,248
‐ Those are good
for under the car.
817
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:08,958
Yeah we want to keep
anything like that.
818
00:36:09,042 --> 00:36:10,293
‐ They've become obsolete dad,
819
00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:11,461
We should probably...
‐ What's that?
820
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:12,962
‐ The old electrical things,
821
00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:14,005
the circuits on them are bad.
822
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:15,674
You can't keep those.
823
00:36:15,757 --> 00:36:16,716
‐ All right.
824
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,135
‐ It is possible that
he's actually okay
825
00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:21,137
with everything going
and he's chosen just
826
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:24,015
to let it all go to
take care of his wife.
827
00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:25,725
But it's not probable.
828
00:36:25,809 --> 00:36:27,936
‐ What about this guy up here?
829
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,396
‐ You don't touch that.
830
00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,314
‐ Why, what does he do?
831
00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:33,358
‐ I just spent a
lot of money on him.
832
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:34,776
‐ He's broken though.
833
00:36:34,859 --> 00:36:38,780
‐ No, that's the antique
patina the thing.
834
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:39,989
‐ Starlets on the bottom,
835
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:41,199
I don't really...
836
00:36:41,282 --> 00:36:42,826
‐ His neck's cracked,
he's almost decapitated.
837
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:44,160
‐ I don't know that it has...
838
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,787
‐ That it has that
makes it more valuable.
839
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,330
It's a it's an old element.
840
00:36:47,372 --> 00:36:49,999
It's not...
‐ I kinda doubt that actually.
841
00:36:50,083 --> 00:36:52,419
‐ We can sell that, definitely.
842
00:36:52,502 --> 00:36:53,795
‐ I don't know, I would say
843
00:36:53,837 --> 00:36:55,839
if the group that's
here, the cleaning group,
844
00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:57,549
says that it's donate able,
I would donate (mumbles)
845
00:36:57,632 --> 00:36:59,759
‐ I guarantee you I
can get $100 for it.
846
00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:02,595
‐ I don't, I think
you're dreaming, no way.
847
00:37:03,805 --> 00:37:05,056
‐ It's worth that to me.
848
00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:06,182
‐ Well I understand that,
849
00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:07,851
but it's worth that
to anyone else.
850
00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:08,852
‐ What is it hurting?
851
00:37:08,935 --> 00:37:11,354
‐ It's big, It takes up
space, you need room.
852
00:37:11,438 --> 00:37:13,148
Dad we're never going
to get this done
853
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:15,442
unless we say yes, you're
gonna have to say yes.
854
00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:17,527
‐ On one item like that
you're gonna draw a line.
855
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:19,446
‐ We're not gonna draw
the line, I'm just saying.
856
00:37:19,529 --> 00:37:21,030
I mean, if you can't come up
857
00:37:21,114 --> 00:37:22,031
with a good purpose for it,
858
00:37:22,115 --> 00:37:23,074
we need to evaluate whether
859
00:37:23,158 --> 00:37:24,033
or not it really needs to stay.
860
00:37:24,117 --> 00:37:25,493
‐ The fact that I appreciate it
861
00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:27,370
isn't a good enough purpose?
862
00:37:27,454 --> 00:37:30,123
‐ You appreciate a lot of things
in here and I respect that.
863
00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:31,499
‐ Take it away.
864
00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:34,127
‐ Dennis did let it go but
he wasn't happy about it.
865
00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:36,713
And he was really then moved
866
00:37:36,796 --> 00:37:39,591
into kind of feeling a little
hopeless or demorolized
867
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:42,135
by the whole process
and starts thinking,
868
00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:44,137
Well, I'm gonna be
living in a home
869
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:46,473
without anything
that I appreciate.
870
00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,309
Or anything that's
beautiful, which isn't true.
871
00:37:49,392 --> 00:37:52,312
But that's where he's
sunk to in that moment.
872
00:37:52,395 --> 00:37:53,271
‐ We're trying to
be fair about...
873
00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:54,647
‐ Take it away.
‐ Okay.
874
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:02,197
‐ Dennis is upset.
875
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,200
He's upset with a son
for taking his toy horse.
876
00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:07,327
He's been avoiding
the reality all day
877
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:08,536
and now it just hit him.
878
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:09,746
And now I find out he's hiding
879
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:12,248
in the truck at the
end of the block.
880
00:38:12,332 --> 00:38:13,458
This is starting to weigh on him
881
00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:15,293
and he's trying to avoid
it instead of talking.
882
00:38:15,335 --> 00:38:18,671
Avoidance is why we're
in this situation.
883
00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:24,302
‐ You all right men?
884
00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:25,470
‐ Yeah, it's just getting
to me a little bit.
885
00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:28,306
‐ Well, yeah, I was like
(mumbles) (chuckles)
886
00:38:28,348 --> 00:38:30,350
‐ I just needed to get away.
‐ Okay.
887
00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:31,643
I didn't want Dennis to quit.
888
00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:34,479
If he disappears and we
throw everything away.
889
00:38:35,271 --> 00:38:36,397
We haven't done anything.
890
00:38:36,481 --> 00:38:37,816
He's just gonna fill
it right back up.
891
00:38:37,857 --> 00:38:40,485
That is not the time
to push on a toy horse.
892
00:38:40,527 --> 00:38:42,028
Do you want to keep that?
893
00:38:42,111 --> 00:38:44,447
‐ I wanted to keep
it but it's done.
894
00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,366
I mean, I gave in.
895
00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:48,284
‐ Well, but you're still
allowed to have a voice.
896
00:38:48,368 --> 00:38:49,869
‐ I'd like to have
a set aside at least
897
00:38:49,953 --> 00:38:51,538
and then reconsider it later
898
00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:54,165
after we've gotten
everything to the point...
899
00:38:54,207 --> 00:38:55,708
‐ Do you want a maybe power?
900
00:38:55,792 --> 00:38:58,086
‐ Yeah, a maybe power
or something like that.
901
00:38:58,169 --> 00:38:59,504
‐ I think that's fair.
902
00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:10,056
(gentle music)
903
00:39:25,989 --> 00:39:26,948
This is a massive job.
904
00:39:27,031 --> 00:39:29,742
And we've got a total
of 10 tracks today.
905
00:39:29,826 --> 00:39:32,036
A lot of times we don't get
that done in a whole cleanup.
906
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,580
so we've gotten a lot done.
907
00:39:33,663 --> 00:39:35,415
We didn't even really
realize what clean,
908
00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:38,543
when he wakes up and sees
half an empty driveway,
909
00:39:38,626 --> 00:39:40,753
I don't know how
Dennis is gonna react.
910
00:39:40,837 --> 00:39:42,171
Hiding in the truck
and avoiding it
911
00:39:42,255 --> 00:39:44,173
is why we got in this problem.
912
00:39:44,257 --> 00:39:46,092
And I don't know
what's gonna happen.
913
00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:56,477
(t
914
00:39:58,438 --> 00:40:00,148
‐ [Son] I want you to still be
involved in the process.
915
00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:01,357
I don't want you to shut down.
916
00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:03,401
‐ [Dennis] It's gonna take time.
917
00:40:03,484 --> 00:40:04,903
‐ I understand.
‐ Wounds like this just
918
00:40:04,986 --> 00:40:05,820
don't heal by words.
919
00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,907
‐ [Son] I understand,
I understand.
920
00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:20,877
‐ [Dennis] I really don't
think you want me out there.
921
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,170
‐ Let's go hear him out.
922
00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:23,588
‐ How can I put my
faith into somebody
923
00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:25,632
who's let me down that hard?
924
00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:26,925
‐ I just got on the property
925
00:40:27,008 --> 00:40:29,469
and I'm hearing Dennis
is pretty mad at me.
926
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:32,472
‐ He's got a lot of
words, lip service.
927
00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:33,640
‐ Dennis is pissed.
928
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:42,482
He believes that I personally
929
00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:44,192
threw away all of his tools.
930
00:40:45,526 --> 00:40:47,195
‐ When there was a
challenge about keeping
931
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:48,529
or getting rid of something,
932
00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:51,824
you ultimately said, let it go.
933
00:40:51,908 --> 00:40:55,244
My family is worth more
to me than this stuff.
934
00:40:55,328 --> 00:40:56,663
‐ And it completely is.
935
00:40:56,704 --> 00:40:57,497
‐ So...
936
00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:00,208
‐ That was no
justification that I had
937
00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:01,668
to distinguish between
the two things.
938
00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:03,461
‐ Yeah, dad I get it, I get it.
939
00:41:03,503 --> 00:41:05,964
This is the one shot we have
940
00:41:06,005 --> 00:41:08,299
to make it right so that.
941
00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:09,550
‐ I know that.
942
00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:10,802
‐ Dennis is a good guy
943
00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:12,220
and I just need to
sit down with him,
944
00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:13,972
talk face to face
and just let him
945
00:41:14,055 --> 00:41:15,640
say what he has to say.
946
00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:17,600
I feel it, I feel the anger.
947
00:41:17,684 --> 00:41:19,310
‐ Damn right you do.
‐ [Matt] Okay, tell me.
948
00:41:19,352 --> 00:41:20,478
‐ And you'll own it?
949
00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:22,647
‐ [Matt] I am, I'm
here to listen.
950
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:26,651
‐ You promised me that I had
no reason to be concerned.
951
00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:28,486
The things that I didn't
want to go out of here.
952
00:41:28,569 --> 00:41:30,405
We're gonna go out of here.
953
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:33,324
I had 14 laundry hampers.
954
00:41:33,408 --> 00:41:35,118
Lined up along
that wall yesterday
955
00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:36,160
and out on the front.
956
00:41:36,202 --> 00:41:38,246
And so clearly they were tools.
957
00:41:39,205 --> 00:41:40,665
I pre sorted them.
958
00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:42,959
I took the time to do that.
959
00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:44,460
They're all gone.
960
00:41:44,544 --> 00:41:45,795
I asked you about it midday,
961
00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:48,631
you said he and you
had set them aside.
962
00:41:48,715 --> 00:41:51,509
‐ We had a lot of things.
‐ There are non to be found.
963
00:41:51,592 --> 00:41:52,802
Thousands of dollars
worth of tools.
964
00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:55,638
Some of them are
from my father's.
965
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,766
They meant a lot to me
every time I used them.
966
00:41:58,850 --> 00:42:01,644
You let me down so badly.
967
00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:04,147
I don't know which
way to turn right now.
968
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:08,026
This is the worst thing I
could have ever experienced.
969
00:42:08,109 --> 00:42:09,235
I'm a broken man.
970
00:42:09,318 --> 00:42:11,237
I have no spirit left.
971
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,488
I'll have nothing to work with,
972
00:42:12,572 --> 00:42:15,324
nothing to work with
my grandsons on,
973
00:42:15,408 --> 00:42:16,826
half my tools are gone.
974
00:42:16,909 --> 00:42:20,538
You didn't keep the
word and pass the word
975
00:42:20,621 --> 00:42:23,166
that those things should
never go to the dump.
976
00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:28,171
‐ I want to acknowledge
your frustration first.
977
00:42:28,254 --> 00:42:30,131
I hear it, I feel it.
978
00:42:30,173 --> 00:42:31,549
Not all the tools were tossed.
979
00:42:31,632 --> 00:42:33,718
10% of this property
has been cleaned.
980
00:42:33,801 --> 00:42:35,303
There are other tools
on this property.
981
00:42:35,344 --> 00:42:39,390
Did we throw away a few things
by mistake, I bet we did.
982
00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:40,850
I absolutely bet we did.
983
00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:41,976
‐ 14 out of 14.
984
00:42:42,018 --> 00:42:43,519
‐ We did not throw
away 14 out of 14.
985
00:42:43,603 --> 00:42:44,395
‐ Yes you did.
‐ We did not.
986
00:42:44,479 --> 00:42:45,271
‐ They're not here.
987
00:42:45,354 --> 00:42:46,981
‐ You don't see them.
988
00:42:47,023 --> 00:42:47,648
‐ Show me.
989
00:42:47,732 --> 00:42:48,858
‐ I will, I'll spend two hours.
990
00:42:48,941 --> 00:42:49,984
‐ You show me,
‐ Timeout,
991
00:42:50,068 --> 00:42:53,154
timeout, I respected
your silences.
992
00:42:53,196 --> 00:42:57,200
Time out, I have allocated
over 100000 dollars,
993
00:42:57,283 --> 00:42:58,826
to clean your property.
994
00:42:58,868 --> 00:43:00,578
That's a lot of
frickin money dude.
995
00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:03,664
‐ And you...
‐ To get, stop I'm talking.
996
00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:04,999
I'm gonna listen to you
when it's your turn.
997
00:43:05,041 --> 00:43:06,793
You're gonna listen to
me when it's my turn.
998
00:43:06,876 --> 00:43:09,337
We're busting our ass to
get you out of trouble.
999
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:12,423
You lose all of this, all of it.
1000
00:43:12,507 --> 00:43:13,674
If we don't do our job,
1001
00:43:13,758 --> 00:43:16,677
is some of it gonna get
thrown away, absolutely.
1002
00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:18,012
Yes, are you pissed about it?
1003
00:43:18,096 --> 00:43:20,306
Absolutely, should
you be pissed at me?
1004
00:43:20,348 --> 00:43:21,849
Yes, it's on me.
1005
00:43:22,809 --> 00:43:24,477
If I leave and all
these fines go away
1006
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:28,189
and this yard is clean and
you're pissed at me, success.
1007
00:43:28,272 --> 00:43:30,191
'Cause it means you and
your wife will stay here.
1008
00:43:30,274 --> 00:43:31,150
Am I gonna do my best
1009
00:43:31,234 --> 00:43:32,151
to save everything I can you?
1010
00:43:32,235 --> 00:43:34,612
Absolutely, I will.
1011
00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:36,823
If your dad's tools
got thrown away,
1012
00:43:36,864 --> 00:43:38,866
that sucks and that is on me.
1013
00:43:39,784 --> 00:43:41,035
Did I save everything?
1014
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:42,495
No, absolutely not.
1015
00:43:42,537 --> 00:43:45,164
That's why we're in
the problem we're in.
1016
00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:46,541
This is not gonna be easy.
1017
00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:48,709
We talked about that yesterday.
1018
00:43:48,793 --> 00:43:50,211
‐ Mistakes were made,
1019
00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:52,130
mistakes probably will be made.
1020
00:43:52,171 --> 00:43:53,631
But I guess my question
to you is like,
1021
00:43:53,714 --> 00:43:55,133
here's the situation,
1022
00:43:55,216 --> 00:43:57,385
Code Enforcement is
breathing down your neck.
1023
00:43:57,468 --> 00:44:00,012
Life is really hard
for you and Judy,
1024
00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:04,142
you won't have an
opportunity like this again.
1025
00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:07,311
So my question to you is,
where do you go from here?
1026
00:44:07,353 --> 00:44:10,022
Where do you go
from here Dennis?
1027
00:44:10,106 --> 00:44:11,232
‐ The only thing I
can do from here,
1028
00:44:11,315 --> 00:44:13,276
is sit back and let
the havoc continue.
1029
00:44:14,235 --> 00:44:15,486
‐ Let's try and do a better job
1030
00:44:15,528 --> 00:44:16,654
at keeping an eye out today
1031
00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:18,489
for the things that
really matter to you.
1032
00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:20,366
But understand,
nothing was intentional
1033
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:21,576
that we got rid of yesterday.
1034
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,369
We're not trying to screw you.
1035
00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:24,745
We're trying to deal with this.
1036
00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:26,038
We want you guys to be happy,
1037
00:44:26,122 --> 00:44:27,373
you're gonna get
kicked out of here.
1038
00:44:27,456 --> 00:44:28,708
If this doesn't happen.
1039
00:44:28,791 --> 00:44:29,917
I mean, maybe a few
things went out.
1040
00:44:29,959 --> 00:44:31,085
I'm trying to keep an eye out
1041
00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:32,628
for stuff that is
of good quality.
1042
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,297
And if I accidentally
threw something out
1043
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:35,965
we shouldn't have,
I'm sorry, okay?
1044
00:44:36,007 --> 00:44:38,301
That would not be my intent.
1045
00:44:38,384 --> 00:44:39,468
You know I love Grandpa,
1046
00:44:39,552 --> 00:44:41,971
I'm not trying to throw
anything in his out.
1047
00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:45,224
But this has to happen and
I understand it's hard.
1048
00:44:45,308 --> 00:44:46,726
‐ Then let it happen.
‐ But You have put trust.
1049
00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:47,810
‐ Let it happen.
1050
00:44:47,894 --> 00:44:49,270
‐ No, no, put
trust in us though.
1051
00:44:52,732 --> 00:44:55,735
‐ The question is, given
where you are right now
1052
00:44:55,818 --> 00:44:59,864
and given your lack
of confidence in us
1053
00:44:59,947 --> 00:45:02,825
being able to take
care of these things.
1054
00:45:02,867 --> 00:45:05,328
Can you move ahead with this?
1055
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:06,954
Will you move ahead with this?
1056
00:45:08,206 --> 00:45:10,833
‐ I said, I'll be here,
that's all I can offer.
1057
00:45:11,709 --> 00:45:15,254
‐ To me, that's amazing.
1058
00:45:15,338 --> 00:45:17,798
To be willing to actually
move ahead with this.
1059
00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:20,468
Even feeling the
way you're feeling.
1060
00:45:20,551 --> 00:45:22,094
That takes a lot of courage.
1061
00:45:23,262 --> 00:45:24,305
‐ Takes a lot of courage.
1062
00:45:24,347 --> 00:45:25,973
‐ It's taking everything I got.
1063
00:45:26,015 --> 00:45:28,809
‐ I hear you, I hear you.
1064
00:45:28,893 --> 00:45:30,019
‐ It would have been so natural
1065
00:45:30,102 --> 00:45:32,104
for me to go into the
bottle last night.
1066
00:45:33,773 --> 00:45:35,691
‐ I know you can't
possibly see it now
1067
00:45:35,775 --> 00:45:38,819
but we're gonna rebuild
things on the other end.
1068
00:45:38,903 --> 00:45:40,071
You're gonna make it.
1069
00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:41,822
You're gonna make
it through this.
1070
00:45:41,906 --> 00:45:43,282
I know that it's hard to see it.
1071
00:45:43,366 --> 00:45:45,409
But, you're gonna be good.
1072
00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:49,956
‐ You're gonna be
okay, all right, okay?
1073
00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,090
(mumbles)
1074
00:46:00,466 --> 00:46:03,094
(upbeat music)
1075
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,689
‐ Dennis and I had a pretty
strong argument this morning.
1076
00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:15,898
And I think his best way
1077
00:46:15,982 --> 00:46:17,692
to deal with anything
is to run and hide.
1078
00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:19,694
So right now Dennis
is basically sitting
1079
00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:22,071
in his car in the
middle of the street.
1080
00:46:22,154 --> 00:46:24,407
And I don't know when
he's coming back.
1081
00:46:30,997 --> 00:46:34,000
‐ This is absolutely a
serious hoarding situation.
1082
00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:41,632
‐ Here we are 10 years later
1083
00:46:41,674 --> 00:46:43,092
and the trucks are still full
1084
00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:46,220
with the stuff that he
brought from Pittsburgh.
1085
00:46:51,809 --> 00:46:53,144
‐ It's really very
difficult for me
1086
00:46:53,185 --> 00:46:56,814
to imagine just how difficult
every day is for Dennis.
1087
00:46:56,897 --> 00:46:58,024
It would be a sad situation
1088
00:46:58,107 --> 00:47:00,192
if their home was
pristine and neat.
1089
00:47:06,073 --> 00:47:07,658
‐ We're at a critical state,
1090
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:09,660
where if he doesn't make amends
1091
00:47:09,702 --> 00:47:11,454
to this house and his property,
1092
00:47:11,537 --> 00:47:12,872
the City's gonna take it.
1093
00:47:18,044 --> 00:47:20,963
‐ This is the worst thing I
could have ever experienced.
1094
00:47:21,005 --> 00:47:22,965
‐ Did we throw
away a few things?
1095
00:47:23,007 --> 00:47:24,342
My mistake, I bet we did.
1096
00:47:25,301 --> 00:47:26,844
Right now Dennis is
sitting in his car
1097
00:47:26,927 --> 00:47:28,054
at the end of the street
1098
00:47:28,137 --> 00:47:29,805
and I don't know when
he's coming back.
1099
00:47:37,229 --> 00:47:38,606
‐ Feel like I can
move this for us,
1100
00:47:38,689 --> 00:47:39,648
cause they need
to get the junks.
1101
00:47:39,732 --> 00:47:41,025
That said if want to get out
1102
00:47:41,108 --> 00:47:42,777
and park it between those
two cars at that end?
1103
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:44,320
Thanks dad, appreciate it.
1104
00:47:45,905 --> 00:47:47,239
This morning my dad
was really upset
1105
00:47:47,323 --> 00:47:49,533
that we got rid of a
bunch of tools yesterday
1106
00:47:49,617 --> 00:47:52,536
that apparently are handed
down from his father.
1107
00:47:53,704 --> 00:47:56,832
It was not intentional,
accidental, but he was pissed.
1108
00:47:56,916 --> 00:47:58,501
And I don't know if
he'll ever forgive us
1109
00:47:58,584 --> 00:47:59,919
for what happened yesterday.
1110
00:48:00,002 --> 00:48:02,171
He's still very mad
about it right now.
1111
00:48:05,841 --> 00:48:09,136
(gentle electronic music)
1112
00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:10,304
Tools is what he cares about
1113
00:48:10,388 --> 00:48:12,139
and we're gonna
focus on that today.
1114
00:48:12,223 --> 00:48:13,766
Sometimes when you're
cleaning a hoarded house,
1115
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:15,976
the most powerful tool
is just to listen.
1116
00:48:16,018 --> 00:48:17,478
He likes the crew
that was inside.
1117
00:48:17,561 --> 00:48:18,479
He loves you guys.
1118
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:21,107
He knows you guys have
an eye out for stuff.
1119
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:23,859
He's pretty much mad at me.
1120
00:48:23,943 --> 00:48:24,819
And that's fine.
1121
00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:26,237
This guy needed to be heard.
1122
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,365
We heard him, hopefully
now we can start cleaning.
1123
00:48:29,448 --> 00:48:31,826
Bottom line, tools or
where he's frustrated.
1124
00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:34,495
So all tools, I mean
down to a screw,
1125
00:48:35,704 --> 00:48:37,498
keep it, keep all
tools to the side,
1126
00:48:37,581 --> 00:48:39,542
we still gotta let him
make that decision.
1127
00:48:39,625 --> 00:48:42,962
Plan today is to clean twice
as much as we did yesterday,
1128
00:48:43,045 --> 00:48:45,256
we will have an eye
out for all the tools.
1129
00:48:45,339 --> 00:48:47,174
I'm going to create a
massive ridiculous pile
1130
00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:48,342
that Dennis can go through.
1131
00:48:48,426 --> 00:48:50,636
But I'm not just
here to help Dennis,
1132
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,012
I've got to help
his wife as well.
1133
00:48:52,096 --> 00:48:53,973
She needs somewhere
safe to live.
1134
00:48:54,056 --> 00:48:56,559
And right now, this
place is not safe.
1135
00:48:56,642 --> 00:48:59,979
I mean right now, words are
just gonna piss him off.
1136
00:49:00,062 --> 00:49:01,313
We just need to do some action
1137
00:49:01,355 --> 00:49:02,982
and get some
clearing and he needs
1138
00:49:03,023 --> 00:49:04,275
to see a big pile of tools.
1139
00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:05,901
‐ Yep, there you go.
‐ Okay, all right, lets do it.
1140
00:49:05,985 --> 00:49:09,321
(upbeat hiphop music)
1141
00:49:13,617 --> 00:49:14,493
‐ We've got books under the TV,
1142
00:49:14,577 --> 00:49:16,996
we got books and boxes,
books on the shelf.
1143
00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:18,914
Yeah, we got more
books than people
1144
00:49:18,998 --> 00:49:21,542
have read in a lifetime (laughs)
1145
00:49:24,462 --> 00:49:25,754
that's a part of the
train thing yeah?
1146
00:49:25,838 --> 00:49:27,673
That's all train tracks.
1147
00:49:28,841 --> 00:49:29,967
(mumbles)
1148
00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:31,260
‐ With the bullet?
1149
00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:34,472
We just need one working
that's the best bullet.
1150
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,435
We may wanna see about
doing a train zone.
1151
00:49:39,518 --> 00:49:42,229
Where we start to have
some boxes of train stuff.
1152
00:49:50,404 --> 00:49:53,491
‐ I've never thought I'd be
living in a society like this.
1153
00:49:55,034 --> 00:49:57,369
You don't have the
privacy of your own home.
1154
00:49:58,704 --> 00:50:00,414
That is ridiculous.
1155
00:50:00,498 --> 00:50:03,834
It's my responsibility
whether I'm safe
1156
00:50:03,876 --> 00:50:05,544
or I'm in healthy conditions.
1157
00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:07,963
My wife wasn't complaining.
1158
00:50:08,047 --> 00:50:11,091
She wasn't hurting from
anything that was going on here.
1159
00:50:12,051 --> 00:50:13,385
I'm not allowed to live
the way I wanna live.
1160
00:50:13,469 --> 00:50:14,970
I got a big piece
of property now
1161
00:50:15,012 --> 00:50:17,431
that I'm not allowed to
do a damn thing with.
1162
00:50:18,516 --> 00:50:19,683
That is absurd.
1163
00:50:21,852 --> 00:50:23,062
I would have been
just as well off
1164
00:50:23,145 --> 00:50:24,688
to have the left the
police take over.
1165
00:50:25,689 --> 00:50:28,067
I'm not gonna be happy
when this is done.
1166
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:30,110
I'll be relieved that it's over,
1167
00:50:30,194 --> 00:50:31,695
but I'm not gonna be happy.
1168
00:50:35,533 --> 00:50:37,326
‐ Do you have any
more small boxes?
1169
00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:39,328
My dad came into this
with good intentions
1170
00:50:39,411 --> 00:50:42,790
and a lot of positive
thoughts about
1171
00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:47,044
what this was going to do
for us as a family, for him.
1172
00:50:47,127 --> 00:50:49,547
But just like we've
seen before in things,
1173
00:50:49,630 --> 00:50:51,882
it's like he starts
with a great attitude
1174
00:50:51,966 --> 00:50:53,259
and a positive
mind about things.
1175
00:50:53,342 --> 00:50:55,302
And then I think when
the reality sets in,
1176
00:50:55,344 --> 00:50:58,138
sometimes it's a little
more shocking to him,
1177
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:00,641
than I think he would
have ever imagined
1178
00:51:00,683 --> 00:51:04,812
and he's angry, he
doesn't feel like anybody
1179
00:51:04,895 --> 00:51:07,356
should have the
right to tell him
1180
00:51:07,439 --> 00:51:09,149
how he should live his life
1181
00:51:09,191 --> 00:51:11,277
and what he's allowed
to have and not have
1182
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,821
and he's just, he's having
1183
00:51:13,862 --> 00:51:15,573
a he's having a super hard time.
1184
00:51:18,367 --> 00:51:21,161
‐ Dennis is feeling
powerless, hopeless,
1185
00:51:21,245 --> 00:51:24,290
demoralized, out of
control, overwhelmed,
1186
00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:26,458
terrified, anxious and yet
1187
00:51:26,542 --> 00:51:28,961
he's willing to move
ahead with this process.
1188
00:51:29,044 --> 00:51:32,464
And moving ahead with
all those feelings,
1189
00:51:32,548 --> 00:51:36,218
I don't know that we can ask
a human being more than that.
1190
00:51:36,302 --> 00:51:39,305
We can't really ask them to
not feel what they're feeling.
1191
00:51:39,346 --> 00:51:40,973
What we can ask them to do
1192
00:51:41,056 --> 00:51:42,975
is to feel what they're
feeling and move ahead.
1193
00:51:43,058 --> 00:51:44,602
And Dennis has given us that
1194
00:51:44,685 --> 00:51:47,396
and I think he deserves
a lot of credit for that.
1195
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,863
(soft ballad music)
1196
00:51:57,323 --> 00:52:00,326
‐ If he chooses to reengage
and participate in this,
1197
00:52:00,409 --> 00:52:02,328
does that, in your experience,
1198
00:52:02,411 --> 00:52:07,041
increase the chances that he
can be successful ongoing?
1199
00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:07,916
‐ Yeah.
‐ I feel like
1200
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,876
him being part of it
1201
00:52:08,959 --> 00:52:11,337
is gonna help him come to terms
1202
00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:14,715
with some of this stuff
and see the things
1203
00:52:14,798 --> 00:52:17,051
that he had that he
really shouldn't have had
1204
00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:18,469
and doesn't need to keep.
1205
00:52:18,510 --> 00:52:21,388
‐ Absolutely, people who
participate in the process,
1206
00:52:21,472 --> 00:52:26,185
do better than people who don't
participate in the process.
1207
00:52:26,268 --> 00:52:28,312
Because if he participates
in the process,
1208
00:52:28,354 --> 00:52:32,650
then it's not like
we're doing this to him.
1209
00:52:32,691 --> 00:52:33,359
‐ Yeah,
1210
00:52:33,442 --> 00:52:34,485
‐ He will learn some things.
1211
00:52:34,568 --> 00:52:36,153
And one of the
things he'll learn
1212
00:52:36,195 --> 00:52:38,989
is that he can
handle the feelings
1213
00:52:39,073 --> 00:52:41,325
that come up around letting go.
1214
00:52:41,408 --> 00:52:42,493
‐ Yeah.
1215
00:52:42,576 --> 00:52:43,535
‐ But if he doesn't
participate in that process,
1216
00:52:43,619 --> 00:52:45,871
he doesn't learn that, right?
1217
00:52:45,954 --> 00:52:48,624
And the other thing now
is people who participate
1218
00:52:48,707 --> 00:52:50,876
in the process are
a little less likely
1219
00:52:50,959 --> 00:52:54,296
to fall back into it than people
1220
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:55,839
who don't participate
in the process
1221
00:52:55,923 --> 00:52:59,093
because their experiences that
something was done to them.
1222
00:52:59,176 --> 00:53:00,302
‐ Right, right.
1223
00:53:00,344 --> 00:53:01,512
‐ You know, have to kind
of see how things go.
1224
00:53:01,595 --> 00:53:03,722
But at some point,
would you be willing
1225
00:53:03,806 --> 00:53:04,723
to talk with your dad
1226
00:53:04,807 --> 00:53:06,642
and invite him back
in to participate?
1227
00:53:06,684 --> 00:53:08,102
‐ Sure.
1228
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:09,770
‐ I think that in general,
1229
00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:12,981
the way I would suggest
you approach this
1230
00:53:13,065 --> 00:53:15,442
would sound something like,
1231
00:53:15,526 --> 00:53:18,237
I know this is really
hard for you dad.
1232
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,492
And I want us to solve
this problem as a family.
1233
00:53:25,452 --> 00:53:27,496
If you're able to
present it that way,
1234
00:53:27,579 --> 00:53:32,710
you present a whole different
reason to participate.
1235
00:53:33,919 --> 00:53:37,047
Because it is about your
family, the end of the day.
1236
00:53:37,131 --> 00:53:38,132
It's about your family.
1237
00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:39,091
‐ Yeah.
1238
00:53:39,174 --> 00:53:40,759
‐ And doing good
for your family.
1239
00:53:40,843 --> 00:53:43,929
And I think if you could
present it that way,
1240
00:53:45,097 --> 00:53:47,015
you kind of hook in a little bit
1241
00:53:47,099 --> 00:53:48,684
to a value that your dad has,
1242
00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:52,187
I think, he loves
your mom tremendously.
1243
00:53:52,271 --> 00:53:53,480
He loves you.
1244
00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:55,357
I think at the end of the day,
1245
00:53:55,441 --> 00:53:57,317
he's going to be willing
to do hard things,
1246
00:53:57,401 --> 00:54:01,613
but only because of
what it stands for
1247
00:54:01,697 --> 00:54:02,948
in terms of being a family.
1248
00:54:03,031 --> 00:54:04,491
‐ Sure, that seems
to be the glue
1249
00:54:04,575 --> 00:54:06,160
holding him together right now.
1250
00:54:06,201 --> 00:54:07,995
‐ So if you're comfortable,
1251
00:54:08,078 --> 00:54:09,204
and you say, I would like you
1252
00:54:09,288 --> 00:54:10,748
to actually to
participate in this.
1253
00:54:10,831 --> 00:54:12,583
Not, you should be
participate in this,
1254
00:54:12,666 --> 00:54:14,918
not, I need you to
participate in this.
1255
00:54:15,002 --> 00:54:16,128
‐ Right?
1256
00:54:16,211 --> 00:54:18,130
‐ I would like you
to because we want
1257
00:54:18,172 --> 00:54:19,465
to solve this
problem as a family
1258
00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:21,925
and you're an important
part of our family.
1259
00:54:29,892 --> 00:54:33,854
‐ Dennis is gone, he's
been stewing all morning.
1260
00:54:33,937 --> 00:54:35,898
Dennis is honestly
and truthfully upset.
1261
00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:38,734
So he just drove away,
we need to find him.
1262
00:54:38,817 --> 00:54:42,988
(upbeat dramatic music)
1263
00:55:07,012 --> 00:55:08,430
‐ Hey, I just saw your text,
1264
00:55:09,681 --> 00:55:11,683
we haven't seen my dad yet.
1265
00:55:23,403 --> 00:55:25,989
‐ I guess he doesn't have
any particular places
1266
00:55:26,073 --> 00:55:28,283
that he goes to
that you know of?
1267
00:55:28,367 --> 00:55:29,827
‐ No, there's I mean, the
only thing I can think
1268
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:31,495
is large parking lots
where he might have
1269
00:55:31,537 --> 00:55:33,539
just wanted to kind
of pull out of the way
1270
00:55:33,622 --> 00:55:36,583
and take a nap, I hope.
1271
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:39,461
Probably take a, grab
my brother's keys
1272
00:55:39,545 --> 00:55:42,798
and take his car and go
drive the neighborhood
1273
00:55:42,881 --> 00:55:43,966
and see what I can find.
1274
00:55:45,425 --> 00:55:47,761
I mean, it's frustrating,
he doesn't have his phone.
1275
00:55:47,845 --> 00:55:49,304
I think he was just, he
was angry this morning,
1276
00:55:49,388 --> 00:55:50,764
he left it plugged in inside.
1277
00:55:50,848 --> 00:55:53,225
I pulled it out to make sure
it didn't get swept away.
1278
00:55:53,308 --> 00:55:54,643
And he left without it.
1279
00:55:54,685 --> 00:55:57,646
‐ Dennis disappears, when
things are uncomfortable.
1280
00:55:57,729 --> 00:56:00,774
This is only gonna get
more uncomfortable.
1281
00:56:00,858 --> 00:56:02,359
‐ I'm either gonna
find him or I'm not.
1282
00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:04,820
I mean, I don't know, there's
1283
00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:07,656
a 1000 million
places he could be.
1284
00:56:07,698 --> 00:56:09,116
‐ You can eat turtle soup,
1285
00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:11,076
if the turtle
stays in the shell.
1286
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:13,704
‐ All right, see
you guys in a bit.
1287
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:14,788
‐ One hand I'm really really
concerned where is he?
1288
00:56:16,164 --> 00:56:17,833
Hopefully he's just asleep
in his car somewhere.
1289
00:56:17,875 --> 00:56:21,128
But the other hand, if
I don't finish this job,
1290
00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:22,754
Then he loses his whole house.
1291
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:25,299
So we need him here.
1292
00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:30,512
‐ As we, the hours tick
away, he's not here.
1293
00:56:31,513 --> 00:56:33,223
Obviously my concern
grows a little bit.
1294
00:56:33,307 --> 00:56:35,392
We'll continue to clean
as much as we can.
1295
00:56:35,475 --> 00:56:37,477
With all the volunteers
that we have.
1296
00:56:37,561 --> 00:56:40,188
I just don't want to
do more harm than good.
1297
00:56:41,356 --> 00:56:43,567
‐ A question it's gonna
come up at some point,
1298
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:47,654
is whether we can continue
this, without him here?
1299
00:56:47,738 --> 00:56:49,197
‐ We got buy in with the family
1300
00:56:49,281 --> 00:56:50,657
but there's only so
much we can remove
1301
00:56:50,699 --> 00:56:53,327
from the property without
Dennis being here to approve it.
1302
00:56:53,410 --> 00:56:54,870
It's still legally his stuff
1303
00:56:54,953 --> 00:56:57,205
until the city takes
it away from him.
1304
00:56:58,707 --> 00:57:01,293
There's a fine line
between helping a hoarder
1305
00:57:01,335 --> 00:57:03,086
and stealing stuff
off his property.
1306
00:57:05,339 --> 00:57:08,300
At some point
today, I need labor,
1307
00:57:08,342 --> 00:57:10,135
I need trucks and I need Dennis.
1308
00:57:10,218 --> 00:57:11,428
We do need to find him
‐ understand
1309
00:57:11,511 --> 00:57:12,638
‐ At some point, okay?
1310
00:57:12,721 --> 00:57:14,389
All right and we
need to keep doing
1311
00:57:14,473 --> 00:57:15,807
what we're already doing.
1312
00:57:15,891 --> 00:57:17,017
Alright, good job.
1313
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,101
This is a huge hoard.
1314
00:57:18,185 --> 00:57:19,102
If everything was perfect,
1315
00:57:19,186 --> 00:57:20,646
I didn't know we didn't
have time to finish it.
1316
00:57:20,687 --> 00:57:22,564
Now with him gone
for four hours.
1317
00:57:22,648 --> 00:57:24,441
It's a massive delay.
1318
00:57:24,524 --> 00:57:26,944
No Dennis, no finish.
1319
00:57:27,694 --> 00:57:29,112
I mean he's got to get here.
1320
00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:37,621
(upbeat music)
1321
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,743
‐ How's it going?
1322
00:58:17,703 --> 00:58:19,162
‐ So two seconds ago
it was all right.
1323
00:58:19,246 --> 00:58:22,290
I go in there, find everything
has been stripped away.
1324
00:58:23,458 --> 00:58:24,376
‐ Well, really,
what do you mean?
1325
00:58:24,459 --> 00:58:25,627
‐ All my furniture?
1326
00:58:28,296 --> 00:58:32,009
‐ Dennis, Dennis please let
me talk with you for a minute.
1327
00:58:32,092 --> 00:58:36,430
‐ Listen, there isn't
any amount of discussion
1328
00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:38,682
that is gonna change
what has happened here?
1329
00:58:38,765 --> 00:58:41,226
Those furnitures weren't causing
1330
00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:43,687
any health or welfare problems.
1331
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:45,522
Why were they taken?
1332
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,108
‐ I don't know, I actually...
1333
00:58:48,191 --> 00:58:51,194
‐ Nobody knows, I can't
get answers from anybody.
1334
00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:56,074
‐ Here's a situation,
at the end of the day,
1335
00:58:56,158 --> 00:58:57,325
we can leave.
1336
00:58:59,036 --> 00:59:03,081
And we actually will have
to leave if you're not here.
1337
00:59:06,543 --> 00:59:08,045
So as hard as this is,
1338
00:59:09,713 --> 00:59:13,633
if you want this to continue,
you have to be here , okay?
1339
00:59:14,676 --> 00:59:16,970
‐ So what I can do
is suffer through it?
1340
00:59:17,054 --> 00:59:20,098
‐ As I said before, you're
at the very beginning.
1341
00:59:20,182 --> 00:59:22,225
You're in charge.
1342
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:23,101
‐ Sure.
1343
00:59:24,061 --> 00:59:25,145
‐ You really are.
1344
00:59:25,228 --> 00:59:28,148
'Cause if you said
everybody off the property,
1345
00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:30,233
we would we would leave.
1346
00:59:30,317 --> 00:59:31,568
We don't want to leave.
1347
00:59:32,486 --> 00:59:34,988
But we would have to leave.
1348
00:59:35,072 --> 00:59:37,157
‐ I come back
feeling more relaxed.
1349
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,117
I walk in and say more disaster.
1350
00:59:41,703 --> 00:59:44,206
‐ I understand, I
hear you, I hear you.
1351
00:59:44,289 --> 00:59:46,958
I get that, I really get that.
1352
00:59:48,418 --> 00:59:51,797
But the decision
is yours in terms
1353
00:59:51,838 --> 00:59:53,673
of whether we continue or not.
1354
00:59:53,757 --> 00:59:55,967
And if you're not here,
we can't continue.
1355
00:59:57,219 --> 00:59:59,387
‐ I'll think about that
for the rest of the day.
1356
00:59:59,471 --> 01:00:00,305
‐ Okay.
‐ I'll let you know
1357
01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:01,264
before the end days.
1358
01:00:01,348 --> 01:00:02,349
‐ Okay.
1359
01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:03,308
Like by when?
1360
01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:04,309
‐ It may be ending.
1361
01:00:04,392 --> 01:00:06,311
‐ Okay, at the end of the day?
1362
01:00:06,353 --> 01:00:07,145
all right.
1363
01:00:10,357 --> 01:00:13,110
(dramatic music)
1364
01:00:17,864 --> 01:00:19,241
‐ Dad are you okay?
1365
01:00:19,324 --> 01:00:20,659
Dr. Tompkins talked to me
1366
01:00:20,742 --> 01:00:23,328
about pulling him
into the process
1367
01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:24,830
and doing it as a family effort
1368
01:00:24,913 --> 01:00:26,665
and making sure he
understood this was
1369
01:00:26,706 --> 01:00:27,999
for the better of the family.
1370
01:00:28,041 --> 01:00:29,251
What's going on?
1371
01:00:29,334 --> 01:00:32,003
‐ I walk in here and find
half my furniture gone.
1372
01:00:32,087 --> 01:00:34,297
My China closet from
home, it's gone.
1373
01:00:36,508 --> 01:00:39,344
‐ Even though mainly why is
because there was rat urine
1374
01:00:39,427 --> 01:00:40,804
and rat poop all over the place.
1375
01:00:40,846 --> 01:00:43,223
I begin with a hazmat mask on
1376
01:00:43,306 --> 01:00:45,433
to clean up the rat droppings.
1377
01:00:45,517 --> 01:00:47,227
‐ Okay,
‐ I'm sorry.
1378
01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:48,311
‐ I didn't know that.
1379
01:00:48,353 --> 01:00:49,896
‐ I mean, I'm not trying
to throw your (bleep)
1380
01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:51,815
away but I mean,
if it's infested
1381
01:00:51,898 --> 01:00:54,192
or it's got rat urine
on it, it's gotta go.
1382
01:00:56,736 --> 01:00:57,571
‐ You might as well
tear the house down.
1383
01:00:57,654 --> 01:00:59,531
‐ No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1384
01:00:59,614 --> 01:01:02,075
Hey, seriously,
we're not doing this
1385
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:04,202
for any other reason
other than our love dad.
1386
01:01:04,286 --> 01:01:05,328
I mean, it's (mumbles).
1387
01:01:06,371 --> 01:01:07,998
We're trying to make this.
1388
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:09,541
We want you and mum to be happy.
1389
01:01:09,624 --> 01:01:11,334
We want to be able
to come over here.
1390
01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:14,379
Okay, tomorrow
morning, will you agree
1391
01:01:14,462 --> 01:01:15,755
to try and come in and start,
1392
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:17,966
‐ Ill come in and I'll get
started in the morning.
1393
01:01:18,049 --> 01:01:18,967
‐ Okay.
1394
01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:20,719
‐ Today started
off pretty rough.
1395
01:01:20,802 --> 01:01:22,220
With Dennis being angry about us
1396
01:01:22,304 --> 01:01:23,555
throwing some things away.
1397
01:01:23,638 --> 01:01:25,056
I promise you it's
a better scenario
1398
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:27,058
than the county throwing
everything away.
1399
01:01:27,142 --> 01:01:28,768
‐ All right I'm gonna
get back in there
1400
01:01:28,852 --> 01:01:30,645
because I got to work
sun up to sun down buddy.
1401
01:01:30,729 --> 01:01:32,314
To get this done.
1402
01:01:32,397 --> 01:01:33,315
‐ I don't want to say this
1403
01:01:33,398 --> 01:01:35,984
but if Dennis doesn't
show up in the morning,
1404
01:01:36,067 --> 01:01:38,570
we can't continue and
if we don't continue,
1405
01:01:38,653 --> 01:01:41,448
the city is going
to take everything.
1406
01:01:41,531 --> 01:01:42,365
‐ Okay.
1407
01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:47,454
(soft orchestral music)
1408
01:02:15,357 --> 01:02:16,483
‐ Good morning, everybody?
1409
01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:17,734
‐ [crowd] Goodmorning
1410
01:02:17,817 --> 01:02:19,110
‐ All right, day three,
1411
01:02:19,194 --> 01:02:20,820
this is kind of
the pinnacle day.
1412
01:02:20,904 --> 01:02:22,155
A lot of emotions have naturally
1413
01:02:22,197 --> 01:02:23,657
flown over the last few days.
1414
01:02:23,698 --> 01:02:24,866
And that's normal.
1415
01:02:24,991 --> 01:02:27,869
That means we're all
taking this very seriously.
1416
01:02:27,994 --> 01:02:30,914
If there's no emotions,
I'd be concerned.
1417
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:32,290
It's a new day,
it's a new Dennis.
1418
01:02:32,374 --> 01:02:35,335
He came in excited,
ready, cooperative.
1419
01:02:35,460 --> 01:02:36,544
He wants us to get going,
1420
01:02:36,628 --> 01:02:38,421
Dennis, you've gone
on a journey, man.
1421
01:02:38,505 --> 01:02:41,091
physically and emotionally,
you've gone on a journey.
1422
01:02:41,174 --> 01:02:43,718
Right, you took off for
a couple hours yesterday.
1423
01:02:43,843 --> 01:02:45,804
I kind of respect it now
that I know you were safe.
1424
01:02:45,887 --> 01:02:47,764
‐ Yesterday is a
blurb, I'm sorry.
1425
01:02:47,847 --> 01:02:50,433
It's a new day,
I'm in a new place.
1426
01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,521
I have unfortunately, some
emotions about things.
1427
01:02:54,604 --> 01:02:57,232
Probably disproportion with
everything that's going on here.
1428
01:02:57,315 --> 01:02:58,775
‐ Do you think it's
disproportionate?
1429
01:02:58,858 --> 01:03:01,152
‐ No, I don't, and I agree.
1430
01:03:01,194 --> 01:03:04,155
I don't think it's necessary
for you to apologize.
1431
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:05,907
This is this is rough Dennis.
1432
01:03:05,991 --> 01:03:09,661
Dennis made this huge
emotional shift last night
1433
01:03:09,703 --> 01:03:12,789
and he's in a completely
different space.
1434
01:03:12,872 --> 01:03:14,499
‐ You could have quit yesterday.
1435
01:03:14,582 --> 01:03:16,042
‐ I kind of had blinders on.
1436
01:03:17,043 --> 01:03:18,878
‐ Why can we ask
why didn't you quit?
1437
01:03:18,962 --> 01:03:20,422
‐ I'm a stubborn son of a gun.
1438
01:03:20,505 --> 01:03:21,506
‐ Okay, all right.
1439
01:03:21,631 --> 01:03:22,966
(mumbles)
1440
01:03:23,049 --> 01:03:25,927
It would have been easier
to quit and you didn't.
1441
01:03:26,011 --> 01:03:27,512
‐ Absolutely, neither one of us
1442
01:03:27,595 --> 01:03:29,306
would have benefited from that.
1443
01:03:29,389 --> 01:03:30,265
That's behind us.
1444
01:03:30,348 --> 01:03:31,182
‐ Okay.
1445
01:03:31,266 --> 01:03:32,142
‐ Let's just look
forward positively.
1446
01:03:32,225 --> 01:03:33,351
I know we're all gonna pitch in,
1447
01:03:33,435 --> 01:03:34,519
I'm going to pitch in today.
1448
01:03:34,644 --> 01:03:36,521
We're gonna pull
things and throw them.
1449
01:03:36,604 --> 01:03:38,231
‐ We still have two whole days.
1450
01:03:39,357 --> 01:03:40,775
Today is the day we're
gonna kind of settle down.
1451
01:03:40,859 --> 01:03:42,777
We've added labor, we've
got more organizers.
1452
01:03:42,861 --> 01:03:44,070
Thank ya'll for coming.
1453
01:03:44,195 --> 01:03:46,239
We've got more green
shirts, the junk guys here.
1454
01:03:46,364 --> 01:03:49,576
We're gonna see a lot of
space start to prevail today.
1455
01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:50,994
We're proud of you, today.
1456
01:03:51,077 --> 01:03:54,164
You're back here, you're
focused, everybody is,
1457
01:03:54,205 --> 01:03:55,290
you guys ready to get started?
1458
01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:56,166
‐ Let's do this.
1459
01:03:56,291 --> 01:03:57,250
‐ Hell yeah.
1460
01:03:57,334 --> 01:03:59,377
(mumbles)
1461
01:03:59,461 --> 01:04:03,048
(upbeat orchestral music)
1462
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,261
‐ Thursday is really
the most important day.
1463
01:04:08,345 --> 01:04:11,598
This is a big job and
we finally got the space
1464
01:04:11,681 --> 01:04:12,807
to ask for help in.
1465
01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:14,184
We've got a lot
of new organizers,
1466
01:04:14,267 --> 01:04:16,478
we've got a couple
extra new junk guys.
1467
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:17,687
And we've even got a
lot of family friends
1468
01:04:17,771 --> 01:04:18,855
that have showed up.
1469
01:04:22,901 --> 01:04:23,985
We've got a lot of work to do.
1470
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:25,820
We're gonna have
almost 10 people
1471
01:04:25,904 --> 01:04:27,530
working inside on multiple rooms
1472
01:04:27,614 --> 01:04:30,408
and then we'll have another
whole junk crew outside.
1473
01:04:31,993 --> 01:04:35,121
It is just a lot of chaos
going on in the home.
1474
01:04:35,205 --> 01:04:39,000
And the reality is, we must
get this house clean for Judith
1475
01:04:39,125 --> 01:04:41,544
and for Dennis or
they cannot live here.
1476
01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:48,385
The first project of the
day is the master bedroom.
1477
01:04:48,468 --> 01:04:50,136
I need Pam and Steve
to really get focused
1478
01:04:50,178 --> 01:04:51,763
on their mom and dad's bed.
1479
01:04:51,846 --> 01:04:55,642
It's pretty gross and we need
to clean the entire room out.
1480
01:04:55,725 --> 01:04:56,810
There's rats, there's blood,
1481
01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:58,812
there's just a lot
of gross stuff.
1482
01:04:58,895 --> 01:05:00,355
And I need the
family to focus on
1483
01:05:00,438 --> 01:05:01,481
in the morning so
we can get it done.
1484
01:05:01,606 --> 01:05:02,732
I think the emotion for you
1485
01:05:02,816 --> 01:05:04,734
was in this room
a couple days ago.
1486
01:05:04,859 --> 01:05:06,152
How are you feeling,
I mean, what is this?
1487
01:05:06,194 --> 01:05:07,445
This is where your mom sleeps,
1488
01:05:07,529 --> 01:05:08,988
like how are you feeling?
1489
01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:10,490
‐ I'm still very sad about it.
1490
01:05:10,573 --> 01:05:14,327
But I'm also very excited
to get it out of here.
1491
01:05:14,411 --> 01:05:15,286
And make it better.
1492
01:05:15,370 --> 01:05:18,206
So, I've come to accept
it is what it is.
1493
01:05:18,289 --> 01:05:20,750
It sucks, yeah, I
mean, this is awful.
1494
01:05:20,834 --> 01:05:22,293
‐ And we wanna get
the place in order
1495
01:05:22,335 --> 01:05:24,170
so that he can get
someone to come in
1496
01:05:24,295 --> 01:05:27,006
and help him with
more of housekeeping.
1497
01:05:27,132 --> 01:05:29,884
And healthcare, he needs help.
1498
01:05:29,968 --> 01:05:30,927
‐ All right, I'm gonna
get my guys in here.
1499
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:32,011
‐ Okay, we'll get it done.
1500
01:05:32,137 --> 01:05:33,596
‐ I need bed and mattress out.
1501
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,889
‐ Bed and mattress, okay?
1502
01:05:35,014 --> 01:05:37,934
Pam and Steve are just
ready to get this over with.
1503
01:05:38,017 --> 01:05:39,144
They don't really wanna stare
1504
01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:40,562
at all the bad things anymore.
1505
01:05:40,687 --> 01:05:43,440
They just wanna get down
and get this house cleaned.
1506
01:05:43,523 --> 01:05:45,650
I'm seeing a lot of
urgency from the family,
1507
01:05:45,733 --> 01:05:47,944
because they really know that
1508
01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:49,946
they're on their
own when we leave.
1509
01:05:51,865 --> 01:05:56,161
‐ That's a go, go, go, go.
1510
01:05:57,745 --> 01:05:59,914
‐ Dennis was working with
one of the organizers.
1511
01:05:59,998 --> 01:06:01,541
And he said he would probably
1512
01:06:01,666 --> 01:06:02,625
let go of about 20%,
1513
01:06:02,709 --> 01:06:06,504
but he was consistently
letting go of about 50%.
1514
01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:08,339
‐ That can go, go, go.
1515
01:06:09,507 --> 01:06:11,050
‐ And then I came in
and I had to tell him
1516
01:06:11,134 --> 01:06:13,636
Hey man, the
donation is a no go.
1517
01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:15,305
I hate to do this to you guys,
1518
01:06:15,388 --> 01:06:19,184
I have gotten a call from
both donation places.
1519
01:06:19,267 --> 01:06:22,562
And they are now telling us
they can't accept our donation.
1520
01:06:22,687 --> 01:06:23,521
‐ Okay.
1521
01:06:28,026 --> 01:06:30,111
‐ So how does it make you feel?
1522
01:06:30,195 --> 01:06:32,155
‐ I'm disappointed,
but at the same time
1523
01:06:32,238 --> 01:06:34,157
I know it has to
get out of here.
1524
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,327
‐ Well, that's what I was
avoiding saying to you.
1525
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:38,286
‐ Are you?
1526
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:40,288
‐ No, I mean if they,
if we've offered it,
1527
01:06:40,371 --> 01:06:42,248
‐ [Matt] Yeah.
‐ And it's been declined.
1528
01:06:42,332 --> 01:06:44,375
‐ I mean,
‐ We've offered it to two.
1529
01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:45,960
‐ Well, everything that we have
1530
01:06:46,002 --> 01:06:48,254
set aside for donation
put in the dumpster.
1531
01:06:49,339 --> 01:06:50,632
I don't know what else to say.
1532
01:06:50,757 --> 01:06:54,135
‐ So that changes our
playing a little bit now.
1533
01:06:54,219 --> 01:06:56,137
It's pretty much keep or trash.
1534
01:06:56,221 --> 01:06:57,347
‐ Yeah, let's do it.
1535
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:59,849
‐ Hey, complete
turnaround in 24 hours,
1536
01:06:59,974 --> 01:07:00,850
‐ Thanks Matt
‐ Thank you man,
1537
01:07:00,934 --> 01:07:02,477
you're doing great, really good.
1538
01:07:03,937 --> 01:07:05,230
‐ Okay.
1539
01:07:05,313 --> 01:07:07,440
‐ Awesome, you're doing great.
1540
01:07:07,524 --> 01:07:09,984
‐ I'm hopeful with
Dennis's behavior
1541
01:07:10,026 --> 01:07:11,402
that we got a chance
to finish this thing
1542
01:07:11,528 --> 01:07:13,988
and then I walk outside
and I look in the backyard.
1543
01:07:14,072 --> 01:07:15,323
And I realize, dude,
1544
01:07:15,406 --> 01:07:17,909
this is going to be almost
impossible to finish.
1545
01:07:18,034 --> 01:07:21,996
This is just too
massive of a job.
1546
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,872
I don't think we'd
have enough hours.
1547
01:07:22,956 --> 01:07:26,042
(upbeat rock music)
1548
01:07:27,252 --> 01:07:28,545
The next thing that I look up,
1549
01:07:28,628 --> 01:07:30,755
Code Enforcement has
come a day early.
1550
01:07:32,048 --> 01:07:33,591
I thought we had another day.
1551
01:07:34,384 --> 01:07:36,302
We've got an uphill battle.
1552
01:07:36,427 --> 01:07:38,680
We've added people we're
giving everything we got.
1553
01:07:38,805 --> 01:07:43,017
Now, I've already taken 200000
pounds of trash out of here.
1554
01:07:43,142 --> 01:07:45,144
But I still don't
think it's enough.
1555
01:07:50,316 --> 01:07:51,317
‐ I mean, California man,
1556
01:07:51,442 --> 01:07:53,945
they got drone
technology to check in
1557
01:07:54,028 --> 01:07:55,572
on the houses that are hoarding.
1558
01:07:55,655 --> 01:07:58,324
Now, they have permission
from the family
1559
01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:00,326
to check on them via drone.
1560
01:08:00,410 --> 01:08:01,452
They did tell me that
1561
01:08:01,536 --> 01:08:02,620
but they were just
sending the drone over
1562
01:08:02,704 --> 01:08:04,956
and then they were
looking at the entirety
1563
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:06,332
of the property
and they saw that
1564
01:08:06,416 --> 01:08:08,001
we had moved a lot of stuff,
1565
01:08:08,084 --> 01:08:09,294
but they see the whole property.
1566
01:08:09,419 --> 01:08:12,213
So they also saw that we
hadn't taken everything out.
1567
01:08:12,338 --> 01:08:14,299
‐ Well, I can see just
from the entrance,
1568
01:08:14,382 --> 01:08:16,551
when we inspected last week,
1569
01:08:16,634 --> 01:08:18,011
this whole entire
thing was blocked.
1570
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,555
‐ Yeah, there was
RVs and trucks here.
1571
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,307
‐ Yeah,
‐ They're gone,
1572
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:25,101
we're in the middle of
pulling this whole area here.
1573
01:08:25,184 --> 01:08:28,229
‐ Yeah, you got the box
cuts, you got more RVs.
1574
01:08:29,188 --> 01:08:30,982
‐ I think I know
the answer to this.
1575
01:08:31,024 --> 01:08:32,358
Obviously, we
worked really hard.
1576
01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:34,777
But are we anywhere close
to being code back here?
1577
01:08:36,029 --> 01:08:39,365
‐ No, I think that you guys
have done tremendous work
1578
01:08:39,449 --> 01:08:41,159
with the progress
that you've shown
1579
01:08:41,242 --> 01:08:43,620
from the beginning of
the property back here,
1580
01:08:43,703 --> 01:08:46,497
but I definitely can
see that there's still
1581
01:08:46,581 --> 01:08:48,499
a lot of work that
needs to be done,
1582
01:08:48,583 --> 01:08:50,251
but you're definitely
on the right track.
1583
01:08:50,335 --> 01:08:53,463
‐ I'm very concerned that
we're not gonna get enough done
1584
01:08:53,546 --> 01:08:55,798
to make them happy by
end of day tomorrow.
1585
01:09:00,762 --> 01:09:04,140
(dramatic synth music)
1586
01:09:09,187 --> 01:09:10,146
It's been a really good day.
1587
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:12,315
We've done an enormous
amount of work
1588
01:09:12,398 --> 01:09:13,524
between inside and outside,
1589
01:09:13,608 --> 01:09:16,152
we're taking about
10000 pounds an hour.
1590
01:09:16,235 --> 01:09:17,362
And we're still just kind of
1591
01:09:17,445 --> 01:09:19,447
barely making a dent
in this property.
1592
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:24,035
Started clearing
out the driveway.
1593
01:09:24,118 --> 01:09:26,412
And if there's one part of the
property I hadn't seen yet.
1594
01:09:26,496 --> 01:09:28,998
Once we uncovered it,
It looks to be about
1595
01:09:29,082 --> 01:09:32,377
a 25 foot long by
about 15 foot wide,
1596
01:09:32,460 --> 01:09:35,171
just a row of concrete blocks.
1597
01:09:37,674 --> 01:09:41,135
This is a massive pile
of stone and brick.
1598
01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:43,638
And I don't have a
solution for it right now.
1599
01:09:43,721 --> 01:09:47,266
This is a massive hurdle
I did not have time for.
1600
01:09:48,059 --> 01:09:50,311
Sometimes I really hate my job.
1601
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,829
Last day cleaning,
and we still got
1602
01:10:07,912 --> 01:10:09,163
a lot of work to do
more than we normally
1603
01:10:09,247 --> 01:10:11,332
would have on the last day.
1604
01:10:11,416 --> 01:10:12,500
But it's a new day.
1605
01:10:15,211 --> 01:10:16,713
‐ There's been amazing progress
1606
01:10:16,796 --> 01:10:19,340
over the last few
days but feels like
1607
01:10:19,424 --> 01:10:22,760
still so much ahead of
us, could be a long day.
1608
01:10:30,393 --> 01:10:31,728
‐ I have to say
I'm very concerned,
1609
01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:33,229
there's still a lot
of things remaining.
1610
01:10:33,312 --> 01:10:34,981
The carpets aren't pulled up.
1611
01:10:35,022 --> 01:10:36,274
I'm very worried right now
1612
01:10:36,357 --> 01:10:38,776
that we're not
gonna complete this.
1613
01:10:42,196 --> 01:10:43,489
‐ I think Dennis is pretty good.
1614
01:10:43,573 --> 01:10:45,491
Dennis needs to go on
a journey emotionally.
1615
01:10:45,575 --> 01:10:47,368
And I think each
day he gets excited
1616
01:10:47,452 --> 01:10:49,078
and then he gets upset
and then takes a break
1617
01:10:49,162 --> 01:10:50,538
and then comes back
and gets refocused.
1618
01:10:50,621 --> 01:10:52,498
I think that's just
his daily journey.
1619
01:10:52,582 --> 01:10:54,208
And he's letting
us take things away
1620
01:10:54,292 --> 01:10:56,586
and he's actually making
really good decisions.
1621
01:10:56,669 --> 01:10:59,088
A lot of the family stayed
late and worked last night,
1622
01:10:59,172 --> 01:11:00,465
they wanted to do
everything they could
1623
01:11:00,548 --> 01:11:02,592
so we could have the best
chance to finish this
1624
01:11:02,675 --> 01:11:06,012
and he continued to let
that 80% of the house go.
1625
01:11:07,180 --> 01:11:08,473
But there's a
massive pile of stuff
1626
01:11:08,556 --> 01:11:09,640
on the outside of
the house today
1627
01:11:09,682 --> 01:11:11,809
that was thrown out
late into the night.
1628
01:11:13,436 --> 01:11:15,354
And now Dennis is
picking through it.
1629
01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:18,524
He's gonna find a problem
with what's been thrown away.
1630
01:11:18,608 --> 01:11:20,526
That's just the
nature of hoarding.
1631
01:11:21,736 --> 01:11:23,529
I don't know where Dennis
is gonna go emotionally.
1632
01:11:23,613 --> 01:11:25,364
But we got to really
just push forward
1633
01:11:25,448 --> 01:11:27,158
and keep cleaning
because we've got
1634
01:11:27,241 --> 01:11:28,534
Code Enforcement
coming midday today
1635
01:11:28,618 --> 01:11:29,827
to give us the final sign off.
1636
01:11:29,911 --> 01:11:33,080
So we really don't have
time for mistakes today.
1637
01:11:37,210 --> 01:11:40,379
(upbeat rock music)
1638
01:11:49,180 --> 01:11:54,143
We have about 5000 pounds of
cinder block we get to move.
1639
01:11:54,227 --> 01:11:55,520
We had to get rid of it.
1640
01:11:55,603 --> 01:11:58,314
We didn't know where to go
and we got really lucky.
1641
01:11:58,356 --> 01:11:59,565
We call it Habitat for Humanity
1642
01:11:59,649 --> 01:12:01,692
and their restore is
gonna come pick up
1643
01:12:01,776 --> 01:12:04,153
all that stones and extra brick.
1644
01:12:04,237 --> 01:12:05,029
That's the good news.
1645
01:12:05,112 --> 01:12:06,739
Bad news is we got to load it.
1646
01:12:06,823 --> 01:12:08,074
So we're gonna try
to get the family
1647
01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:09,951
kind of pumped up, ready to go.
1648
01:12:11,035 --> 01:12:13,329
Alright, everybody, all
family, come over here, please.
1649
01:12:13,371 --> 01:12:15,164
We've got to get
all these bricks,
1650
01:12:15,248 --> 01:12:17,458
it goes all the
way to the street.
1651
01:12:17,542 --> 01:12:18,709
We've got to get
them on pallets.
1652
01:12:18,793 --> 01:12:20,461
But this is one
of the last things
1653
01:12:20,503 --> 01:12:23,756
that's holding us back on
compliance with code, right?
1654
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,551
We're gonna haul brick
for the next two hours.
1655
01:12:26,634 --> 01:12:29,136
And then we'll just
finish up the house.
1656
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:30,304
All right, let's do it man.
1657
01:12:30,388 --> 01:12:31,973
We're running out of
time, we gotta do this.
1658
01:12:32,014 --> 01:12:35,601
(upbeat orchestral music)
1659
01:12:42,525 --> 01:12:44,151
‐ The materials that we're
picking up here at Dennis'
1660
01:12:44,235 --> 01:12:45,987
will be taken back
to our restore
1661
01:12:46,028 --> 01:12:48,489
and sold to the community
a fraction of price
1662
01:12:48,531 --> 01:12:50,491
to help divert pounds
in the landfill,
1663
01:12:50,575 --> 01:12:52,118
and the proceeds will
help to build homes
1664
01:12:52,201 --> 01:12:54,871
for people in our community
who desperately need them.
1665
01:12:58,541 --> 01:12:59,792
‐ I believe it's very
important for my dad
1666
01:12:59,876 --> 01:13:01,460
that these materials
go to a good use.
1667
01:13:01,544 --> 01:13:02,962
Like maybe repurposed.
1668
01:13:03,045 --> 01:13:04,338
So we're real excited
1669
01:13:04,422 --> 01:13:06,924
about Habitat for Humanity
taking these materials.
1670
01:13:07,008 --> 01:13:09,468
And we'll hopefully
help somebody in need.
1671
01:13:09,552 --> 01:13:11,053
That's really important to us.
1672
01:13:13,139 --> 01:13:16,517
(dramatic synth music)
1673
01:13:31,490 --> 01:13:32,325
‐ It's one of those
things where you can't
1674
01:13:32,366 --> 01:13:33,284
get mad at Dennis,
1675
01:13:33,367 --> 01:13:34,952
he's let us do our job.
1676
01:13:35,036 --> 01:13:39,165
He's just so much volume
that it's hard to do the job.
1677
01:13:59,727 --> 01:14:02,688
‐ Okay, let me deal with a
little one over here first.
1678
01:14:02,772 --> 01:14:04,148
And then let's deal
with the big one
1679
01:14:04,190 --> 01:14:05,316
because I have a
feeling that one's
1680
01:14:05,358 --> 01:14:06,442
gonna find anything,
you wanna puke.
1681
01:14:06,525 --> 01:14:08,110
As we're trying to get
to the final stretch
1682
01:14:08,194 --> 01:14:11,739
of cleaning my parents bedroom
we found two more rats.
1683
01:14:12,865 --> 01:14:15,159
Dead against the walls,
in different spots
1684
01:14:15,201 --> 01:14:20,206
and one was fairly small
and one is just huge.
1685
01:14:24,502 --> 01:14:26,963
‐ Hey that is big, oh my God.
1686
01:14:29,215 --> 01:14:31,717
That's a 10 pounder, you okay?
1687
01:14:34,512 --> 01:14:35,638
‐ Get it out of here.
1688
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,139
‐ You guys should get
in the rodent business.
1689
01:14:37,223 --> 01:14:38,224
You've got a future.
1690
01:14:39,225 --> 01:14:40,935
‐ Is there another one out here?
1691
01:14:41,018 --> 01:14:41,811
‐ Yeah.
1692
01:14:43,229 --> 01:14:48,109
‐ Oh my God.
1693
01:14:48,192 --> 01:14:50,111
(bleep)
1694
01:14:57,868 --> 01:14:59,203
‐ Its impossible
to see this stuff.
1695
01:14:59,286 --> 01:15:00,871
It's right where their bed is.
1696
01:15:00,955 --> 01:15:05,167
Right by where they sleep,
unbeknownst to my mom,
1697
01:15:07,503 --> 01:15:10,131
What's going on
behind, around her?
1698
01:15:10,172 --> 01:15:11,298
She sleeps a lot.
1699
01:15:11,382 --> 01:15:13,718
And so she was in
that room a lot.
1700
01:15:14,969 --> 01:15:19,473
It just sucks to see that
that's what was going on.
1701
01:15:19,515 --> 01:15:21,058
This is too much.
1702
01:15:24,854 --> 01:15:26,939
It's just too much
to see this in their,
1703
01:15:27,023 --> 01:15:29,942
in their house and their
room, its too much.
1704
01:15:31,694 --> 01:15:35,031
‐ It got to you, too bad.
1705
01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:38,951
‐ I can't believe it,
I can't believe it.
1706
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:42,413
‐ Well, it's gonna
be all worth it.
1707
01:15:42,496 --> 01:15:43,831
And everything.
‐ It's so scary.
1708
01:15:43,914 --> 01:15:44,707
‐ Yeah.
1709
01:15:47,501 --> 01:15:50,171
‐ My dad's got to
stop, he's just,
1710
01:15:50,254 --> 01:15:53,215
he's got to stop bringing
stuff into his house.
1711
01:15:54,175 --> 01:15:55,634
He's got to prioritize my mom
1712
01:15:55,676 --> 01:15:58,929
and her care and his
health and well being.
1713
01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:00,306
He needs to change
his priorities.
1714
01:16:00,347 --> 01:16:02,308
He needs to willingly
accept help.
1715
01:16:03,476 --> 01:16:05,394
If he doesn't keep
his house in order.
1716
01:16:05,478 --> 01:16:07,646
We can't get him
the help he needs.
1717
01:16:07,688 --> 01:16:10,691
So it's critical, it's
like life or death
1718
01:16:10,775 --> 01:16:12,276
at this point, I mean,
1719
01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:15,279
if he can't figure out
how to hold it together,
1720
01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:17,198
i dont know what's going
to happen?
1721
01:16:40,930 --> 01:16:43,974
‐ The last day, there's
still a ton to do.
1722
01:16:44,016 --> 01:16:46,143
Is the whole yard being cleaned
1723
01:16:46,185 --> 01:16:47,770
by end of day four doable?
1724
01:16:47,853 --> 01:16:48,771
No.
1725
01:16:48,854 --> 01:16:50,314
Is getting the house
in the side yard
1726
01:16:50,356 --> 01:16:52,108
and the front yard to code?
1727
01:16:52,191 --> 01:16:55,319
Yes, we still have a
small chance to do that.
1728
01:16:55,361 --> 01:16:58,697
But we're gonna need every
second of cleanup to get it.
1729
01:17:06,122 --> 01:17:07,665
We've been banging
out all morning
1730
01:17:07,706 --> 01:17:09,625
and Code Enforcement
is already here.
1731
01:17:09,708 --> 01:17:10,960
I thought we had
a few more hours,
1732
01:17:11,043 --> 01:17:14,296
but I'm a little nervous how
they're gonna feel about it.
1733
01:17:14,338 --> 01:17:15,548
Lieutenant.
‐ How you doing?
1734
01:17:15,631 --> 01:17:16,799
‐ [Matt] How are you men?
1735
01:17:16,841 --> 01:17:18,425
‐ Good to see you.
‐ Good to see you.
1736
01:17:18,509 --> 01:17:19,718
We've made some progress.
1737
01:17:19,802 --> 01:17:20,678
‐ Wow, you have.
1738
01:17:20,761 --> 01:17:22,138
‐ We're not done by any means.
1739
01:17:22,221 --> 01:17:23,305
‐ Okay.
1740
01:17:23,347 --> 01:17:24,723
‐ Do you see at least an
effort's been made in progress?
1741
01:17:24,807 --> 01:17:26,016
‐ Absolutely, this
is night and day.
1742
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:27,643
I didn't even
realize this was what
1743
01:17:27,685 --> 01:17:28,978
this area looked
like, quite frankly.
1744
01:17:29,019 --> 01:17:31,313
‐ It's a nice property
once it's empty.
1745
01:17:31,355 --> 01:17:32,022
‐ Yeah.
1746
01:17:32,106 --> 01:17:33,274
‐ So I wanna show you the house
1747
01:17:33,357 --> 01:17:34,233
I think that's where we're
probably most proud of.
1748
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:35,860
‐ Okay.
‐ All right.
1749
01:17:35,943 --> 01:17:37,903
‐ So we'll kind of
let you look around,
1750
01:17:37,987 --> 01:17:39,321
obviously, we're still cleaning.
1751
01:17:39,405 --> 01:17:41,323
Check it out and then we'll
meet back here in the kitchen.
1752
01:17:41,407 --> 01:17:44,410
‐ Okay, wow.
1753
01:17:48,873 --> 01:17:50,207
‐ Code enforcement
came and they saw
1754
01:17:50,291 --> 01:17:52,459
a lot of work done in
a short amount of time.
1755
01:17:52,501 --> 01:17:53,586
And now they just
wanna make sure
1756
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:54,753
that we're gonna continue
1757
01:17:54,837 --> 01:17:56,630
to see progress
over a longer time.
1758
01:17:56,714 --> 01:17:58,174
What are your overall thoughts?
1759
01:17:58,257 --> 01:17:59,717
‐ I'm just impressed with how
much you've actually moved.
1760
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:00,968
And I knew there was a lot here
1761
01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:01,802
and obviously there's
still some items
1762
01:18:01,886 --> 01:18:03,262
you're still working on.
1763
01:18:03,345 --> 01:18:05,347
But it's amazing how much
stuff's come out of here.
1764
01:18:05,431 --> 01:18:07,474
This is impressive.
1765
01:18:07,558 --> 01:18:08,601
‐ Does this buys us more time?
1766
01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:10,019
Like what do we what
are we looking at?
1767
01:18:10,102 --> 01:18:12,521
‐ This this is definitely a
step in the right direction.
1768
01:18:12,605 --> 01:18:14,440
definitely buys
some more time.
1769
01:18:14,523 --> 01:18:16,609
But this is huge
forward progress
1770
01:18:16,692 --> 01:18:18,527
from what we've seen in
the past, impressive.
1771
01:18:18,611 --> 01:18:19,528
‐ Well he let us.
1772
01:18:19,612 --> 01:18:20,779
I wanna say, there was a moment
1773
01:18:20,863 --> 01:18:23,282
where he could have
quit and he didn't.
1774
01:18:23,365 --> 01:18:25,284
He really just let
everything go since then.
1775
01:18:25,367 --> 01:18:26,202
‐ We're just impressed
1776
01:18:26,285 --> 01:18:27,244
with everything
that's been done here.
1777
01:18:27,328 --> 01:18:27,995
‐ Thanks, all right.
1778
01:18:28,037 --> 01:18:29,205
I'm gonna get back to work man.
1779
01:18:29,288 --> 01:18:30,873
I appreciate your help
and your patience.
1780
01:18:30,956 --> 01:18:33,334
They were happy, they
look at this as a win.
1781
01:18:33,417 --> 01:18:34,793
That means we did a good job.
1782
01:18:34,835 --> 01:18:36,128
If we didn't do a good job.
1783
01:18:36,212 --> 01:18:39,089
They would have been siting
this house today on site.
1784
01:18:39,173 --> 01:18:41,634
But code is happy, we
should have about six months
1785
01:18:41,675 --> 01:18:43,761
to work on kind of plan B.
1786
01:18:43,844 --> 01:18:46,472
(upbeat music)
1787
01:18:54,980 --> 01:18:56,315
‐ [Organizer] Let's go guys.
1788
01:18:56,398 --> 01:18:59,735
‐ We've got a lot still to
do with only one hour to go.
1789
01:18:59,818 --> 01:19:01,487
This has been a mad final foot.
1790
01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:03,864
We've got furniture coming,
We've got people scrubbing,
1791
01:19:03,948 --> 01:19:05,491
people cleaning,
we're pulling carpets.
1792
01:19:05,532 --> 01:19:06,492
We're bringing in new beds,
1793
01:19:06,575 --> 01:19:07,868
we're bringing in new furniture.
1794
01:19:07,952 --> 01:19:10,079
Everything is happening
this last hour.
1795
01:19:11,330 --> 01:19:13,540
I'm excited, but I'm
still a little nervous.
1796
01:19:15,501 --> 01:19:16,543
‐ But we're here
because we've heard
1797
01:19:16,627 --> 01:19:18,295
that Dennis was in a situation
1798
01:19:18,337 --> 01:19:20,464
and we're happy to help
out the community here
1799
01:19:20,547 --> 01:19:22,299
in Sacramento area where we can.
1800
01:19:37,690 --> 01:19:39,149
‐ We did it, end of day four,
1801
01:19:39,233 --> 01:19:44,446
we cleaned a lot of
trash out over 500 tons.
1802
01:19:45,364 --> 01:19:47,324
Which is a million pounds.
1803
01:19:47,408 --> 01:19:49,618
That's an enormous
amount of weight.
1804
01:19:49,702 --> 01:19:52,663
We didn't finish, but
we did a good job.
1805
01:19:52,746 --> 01:19:53,747
There's still a long ways to go
1806
01:19:53,831 --> 01:19:55,332
but the house looks great.
1807
01:19:55,416 --> 01:19:56,959
I'm really pleased
the family can now
1808
01:19:57,042 --> 01:19:58,961
finally go in and
live in this house.
1809
01:19:59,795 --> 01:20:02,840
‐ [crowd] Oh my word!
1810
01:20:02,923 --> 01:20:05,926
(soft rock music)
1811
01:20:06,844 --> 01:20:07,970
‐ [Dennis] I can't believe this.
1812
01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:15,978
‐ Oh my God, look
at the kitchen.
1813
01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:17,479
(joyous laughter)
1814
01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:21,442
‐ You don't recognize
this room anymore do you?
1815
01:20:22,109 --> 01:20:24,570
No, it's quite a bit different?
1816
01:20:25,738 --> 01:20:27,573
‐ So you can see, the
house has been emptied
1817
01:20:27,656 --> 01:20:29,074
of a few things.
1818
01:20:29,158 --> 01:20:31,827
You can see it's
been thoroughly cleaned.
1819
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:34,663
We've got a new couch,
we've got new tables,
1820
01:20:34,705 --> 01:20:36,665
we cleaned out the bedroom.
1821
01:20:36,707 --> 01:20:38,459
We have a new bed for you.
1822
01:20:38,542 --> 01:20:39,168
The kitchen is clean,
1823
01:20:39,251 --> 01:20:40,878
the refrigerator is fully clean
1824
01:20:40,961 --> 01:20:43,922
and it's totally usable,
it's really good.
1825
01:20:44,006 --> 01:20:46,967
‐ This is fantastic,
just fantastic.
1826
01:20:47,009 --> 01:20:48,635
‐ How are you guys, family,
what do you thinking,
1827
01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:49,887
how are you feeling?
1828
01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:51,305
‐ I'm blown away, I
mean, this is just,
1829
01:20:51,388 --> 01:20:54,099
I can't believe this is the
same house we started with.
1830
01:20:55,142 --> 01:20:57,811
‐ I've got a wonderful
place to start over.
1831
01:20:57,895 --> 01:21:00,314
‐ I'm grateful that you
let us help do this.
1832
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:01,523
‐ Yeah, so am I.
1833
01:21:02,483 --> 01:21:03,984
‐ It's been a huge
weight on our shoulders,
1834
01:21:04,068 --> 01:21:09,156
for a lot of years
and it's amazing.
1835
01:21:10,783 --> 01:21:12,242
‐ It's livable again.
1836
01:21:12,326 --> 01:21:14,203
So I just thank
everybody involved
1837
01:21:14,286 --> 01:21:16,413
and all of people
that donated things.
1838
01:21:18,624 --> 01:21:21,126
It's just, I gather there's
still things we have to do,
1839
01:21:21,210 --> 01:21:23,379
but this is just overwhelming.
1840
01:21:24,963 --> 01:21:28,967
Thank you all very
much, we appreciate it.
1841
01:21:29,009 --> 01:21:30,969
‐ It's shocking to see
the transformation.
1842
01:21:31,053 --> 01:21:32,513
It's just, it's shocking.
1843
01:21:32,596 --> 01:21:33,639
‐ There have been some mighty,
1844
01:21:33,722 --> 01:21:35,641
beautiful people
gotten involved here.
1845
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:38,894
I just, I can't thank
everybody enough.
1846
01:21:38,977 --> 01:21:42,398
‐ Yeah, so Dennis
you have space back,
1847
01:21:42,481 --> 01:21:46,985
you have light back, now,
all this love and care
1848
01:21:47,069 --> 01:21:50,572
in your family can come in
and fill it, in any way.
1849
01:21:52,074 --> 01:21:53,909
‐ That's just amazing.
1850
01:21:53,992 --> 01:21:55,577
‐ How's it feel to
have all the space
1851
01:21:55,661 --> 01:21:58,705
‐ For for whatever I've
lost, look what I've gained.
1852
01:21:59,706 --> 01:22:00,916
‐ What do you think mom?
1853
01:22:00,999 --> 01:22:03,168
‐ How're you feeling,
can we get a smile?
1854
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,964
(mumbles)
1855
01:22:07,005 --> 01:22:07,840
‐ You like it?
1856
01:22:07,923 --> 01:22:09,550
Okay, I'm sure she's happy.
1857
01:22:10,717 --> 01:22:12,469
‐ Just looking at
Judith and Dennis,
1858
01:22:12,511 --> 01:22:13,887
I can tell they're happy.
1859
01:22:13,971 --> 01:22:15,681
And that's what
we're here to do.
1860
01:22:17,057 --> 01:22:19,810
This is where we'll be
sleeping tomorrow night.
1861
01:22:19,893 --> 01:22:21,186
look a little different?
1862
01:22:22,646 --> 01:22:25,149
Sure does, fresh and clean.
1863
01:22:26,483 --> 01:22:28,193
Dennis and Judy can
finally spend the night
1864
01:22:28,277 --> 01:22:31,905
in a clean house for the
first time in a long time.
1865
01:22:31,989 --> 01:22:33,157
Check this out dude.
1866
01:22:33,198 --> 01:22:35,325
Oh wow, the whole thing is
raising.
1867
01:22:35,617 --> 01:22:36,660
‐ [Matt] We're raising it up
so, it raises up..
1868
01:22:36,743 --> 01:22:38,078
‐ Oh, it is all going up.
1869
01:22:38,162 --> 01:22:40,247
‐ I believe that the
way the house looks now
1870
01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:43,667
is gonna be a life
changer for my mom.
1871
01:22:43,709 --> 01:22:47,963
I think she's gonna feel
different when she wakes up.
1872
01:22:48,005 --> 01:22:51,133
She's gonna feel
encouraged to come out
1873
01:22:51,175 --> 01:22:53,802
and enjoy relaxing in the house.
1874
01:22:53,844 --> 01:22:55,053
This is gonna give
her a good shot
1875
01:22:55,137 --> 01:22:58,682
at wanting to have that
have that life back.
1876
01:22:58,765 --> 01:23:00,809
(soft acoustic music)
1877
01:23:00,893 --> 01:23:02,060
‐ It's bright in here.
1878
01:23:02,144 --> 01:23:04,146
‐ Beyond anything I
could have imagined?
1879
01:23:04,188 --> 01:23:07,191
‐ Those bathrooms have
been thoroughly cleaned.
1880
01:23:07,274 --> 01:23:09,359
‐ This morning, we still felt
like there was a lot to do.
1881
01:23:09,443 --> 01:23:11,945
We really didn't think of
what's gonna happen honestly.
1882
01:23:12,029 --> 01:23:12,946
I think it's wonderful.
1883
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:14,031
There's so much room in here
1884
01:23:14,114 --> 01:23:15,782
my parents can actually
move around now
1885
01:23:15,866 --> 01:23:19,369
and enjoy themselves, it's well
lit, it's clean, it's safe,
1886
01:23:19,453 --> 01:23:23,248
far exceeds any expectation
I had, it's amazing.
1887
01:23:24,041 --> 01:23:25,375
‐ It makes me feel good.
1888
01:23:25,459 --> 01:23:28,170
I think this is going to
be the way I wanna keep it.
1889
01:23:29,254 --> 01:23:31,089
This is absolutely
going to be fresh start.
1890
01:23:31,173 --> 01:23:33,967
I'm going to do everything
I can to preserve it.
1891
01:23:34,009 --> 01:23:34,968
Don't want to let it get back
1892
01:23:35,052 --> 01:23:37,221
anywhere near what it had been.
1893
01:23:38,847 --> 01:23:40,516
‐ This was a massive crisis.
1894
01:23:40,599 --> 01:23:42,726
Inside was dangerous,
outside was dangerous.
1895
01:23:42,809 --> 01:23:44,686
There were fines
and we were able
1896
01:23:44,770 --> 01:23:45,979
to handle all of those.
1897
01:23:46,063 --> 01:23:47,981
What we have achieved
is they have options,
1898
01:23:48,065 --> 01:23:49,775
the county's gonna
work with them
1899
01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:51,151
and they're able to make
1900
01:23:51,193 --> 01:23:54,029
really good long term
decisions for both of them.
1901
01:23:54,112 --> 01:23:55,280
This was a win.
1902
01:23:55,364 --> 01:23:57,449
‐ Thank you, very
nice meeting you Judy.
1903
01:23:58,492 --> 01:24:00,410
Dennis and his family
have come a long way.
1904
01:24:00,494 --> 01:24:02,871
They started out
feeling hopeless.
1905
01:24:02,955 --> 01:24:04,915
And now they're at a place where
1906
01:24:04,998 --> 01:24:06,708
they can actually see the light
1907
01:24:06,792 --> 01:24:08,293
at the end of the tunnel here.
1908
01:24:09,336 --> 01:24:11,088
But they're certainly
not out of that tunnel.
1909
01:24:11,171 --> 01:24:14,216
No one in this family can
for a moment walk away
1910
01:24:14,299 --> 01:24:15,926
and assume that Dennis is going
1911
01:24:16,009 --> 01:24:18,387
to be able to manage
this on his own.
1912
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:21,682
Particularly, if he
doesn't take advantage
1913
01:24:21,765 --> 01:24:25,811
of the counseling that
will be offered to him.
1914
01:24:25,894 --> 01:24:27,020
‐ Did we help this family?
1915
01:24:27,104 --> 01:24:28,981
Yes, we did.
1916
01:24:29,022 --> 01:24:30,816
What I love about this job was
1917
01:24:30,857 --> 01:24:32,985
the city worked with us,
the family worked for this,
1918
01:24:33,068 --> 01:24:35,404
and it came to a happy ending.
1919
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:40,450
(dramatic synth music)
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