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‐ When I found outthat it wasn't just me
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and that he got away
with this, your blood boils.
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‐ Jeffrey Epsteinis gonna get away
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with molesting meand all my friends,
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and the government's
cosigning it.
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It's scary.
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‐ When you lookat the evidence,
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it's utterly damning.
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And then, in 2006,the federal authorities
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in Floridabegin an investigation
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into Jeffrey Epstein.
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They were expanding itbeyond Florida.
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They were lookingat his properties
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in New York and elsewhere.
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They were starting to reallyget into who this guy was,
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where his investments were,
what he was doing.
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Who really was
Jeffrey Epstein?
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‐ Truth is strangerthan fiction in this case.
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I mean, we're talkingabout hundreds of girls
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being victimized,which was really
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just astonishing to me‐‐
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that this had gone on
for so long
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and that there had been
so many people involved.
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As attorneys who representthe victims,
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we were really tryingto expose the scheme,
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and we were using Virginia'svoice to be able to do that.
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‐ The recruitment process
was never‐ending,
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so it wasn't like
he was finally set up.
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He's got his five girls here,
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there, there,
and there and there.
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And so you were forced to tryto bring other girls in.
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I call it a pyramid scheme.
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"A" would talk to B,B would talk to C
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so on and so forth.
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And these girls, that's how
it worked down the line.
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‐ Jeffrey had a particularlyelaborate seduction system.
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He had women around him
that he trained
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to understand
what he was looking for.
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They would find
young potential victims
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who were malleable,
who had some level of need
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or some level
of naiveté about them.
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‐ I grew up in Dayton, Ohio,
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surrounded by cornfieldsand woods
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that I often played in.
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Growing up,I always was into healing,
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and my dad was a dentist.
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My mom was a teacher,
and I've always had
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a mission to help others,
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and since I was a kid,I've also had this dream
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about going to California.
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So when I was 22 years old,
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I chose
a massage therapy school
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in California and went.
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I was very excitedand just ready
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to take on the world.
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One day, I was approachedby a student
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further along in the program,
and she asked me
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if I would be interested
in learning about
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a once‐in‐a‐lifetime
opportunity
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to be a traveling
massage therapist.
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I was excited,and I told her yes.
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The next personthat I was in contact with
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was Sarah Kellen.
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‐ Sarah Kellen was oneof the main recruiters
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for Epstein.
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Someone who approached girls,
rounded up girls,
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and also did logistics.
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‐ The pyramid scheme started
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with Ghislaine Maxwell
and Sarah Kellen.
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Sarah was so successfulin bringing girls in.
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She's telling you,
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"You're gonna geta really amazing job.
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"This is gonna belife‐changing for you.
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This is gonna be amazing."
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‐ Sarah and I metat the Santa Monica Beach.
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I felt comfortablewith her instantly.
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We resembled one another
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and even just body type.
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I kind of felt like, wow,she's kind of just like me.
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Sarah's telling meabout the position.
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She had been thispersonal massage therapist
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traveling the worldfor the last several years.
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She said,"You'll be filling my place."
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She said,"Imagine the most grand,
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most amazing, incredible lifeyou could want,"
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and she stopped speaking,
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and I took a couple momentsthinking about that
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and creating that imagein my mind.
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She's like, "Teresa,it is so much more
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than you could ever,ever imagine."
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Sarah referred to Ms. Maxwellwho would be hiring me
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for the position,
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and the next stepsare for me to fly
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to New York City
to meet Ms. Maxwell.
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I thought that this wasthe opportunity of a lifetime.
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This was going to allow me
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I arrive in New York City,and I go meet with Ms. Maxwell
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to give a massage.
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I felt quite comfortablewith her.
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There was a point
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during the massage,
so I felt, like, wow,
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this is really going well.
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After the massage, she told methat I was going to go
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meet her partner, Jeffrey,
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to continuewith the interview,
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and that wasthe very first time
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I had heard his name.
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She said to me,
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"Make sure you give Jeffrey
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Jeffrey always gets
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‐ The entire operation,from start to finish,
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was very calculated.
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Before any individual
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she had already met three
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who she felt like she trusted.
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‐ They were totallyout of their element.
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They didn't know what
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so to have someone saying,
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"These are the rules,"
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"This is normal.
This is how things are."
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That's incredible powerful
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and I think Ghislainewas essential
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in fulfilling that role.
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[horn honks]
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‐ I went to Jeffrey'stownhouse that night
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and met Jeffrey.
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You walk in,
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One of the first thingsI noticed when I walked in‐‐
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there was
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The coat, the tux,
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You don't see that anywhere.
You see that in a movie.
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He said, "Follow me this way,"and then I met Jeffrey.
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He led me over to a couch,and he sat next to me.
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He was asking me questionsabout myself and my family.
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Just in the middleof conversation,
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he put his foot on my lap
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and asked me
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And as I'm doing so,he's pushing his foot
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closer to my body.
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He starts pushing
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Then he's pressing
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like, literally his toes‐‐
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I was so confused.
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Like, whatis going on right now?
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None of it made sensefrom the massage school
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to meeting Sarahto meeting Ghislaine
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to now I'm here.
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None of it added up.
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I stood up to leave the room...
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And he's following behind me,
and he grabbed me
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from behind,
and I just completely froze.
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He was just behind me,and he assaulted me
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there in that hallway.
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I don't know how long
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I ran straightto the front door,
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and he's followingright behind me,
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and as I leave,
he patted me on my butt,
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and he says to me,
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"Don't do anything
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I felt very, you know,
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I felt an overwhelmof shame and confusion.
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For some reason, I feltlike I should have known,
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like, it wastoo good to be true.
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I felt so fooled.
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‐ That individualwho has been groomed
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feels that they had agency
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and thereforehad some responsibility.
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They do not understand that
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which is the sexual assault,
they were tricked.
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‐ I was targetedby the student
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at the massage school.
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She spotted meknowing what they wanted.
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I was a human baton
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from one person to the next,
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and it began with her
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They knew exactlyhow to pull you in
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to trust them.
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It's a game.
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It's a sick and twisted gameto them,
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and they felt like they werethe kings and queens
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of their sick domain.
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‐ The recruiting focuswas constant.
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Any of the individualsthat you talk to
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who were subjectedto Ghislaine and Jeffrey
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will tell you that every daythey were asking
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these young girlsto bring in other girls.
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Ghislainewas the master at that.
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Jeffrey liked diversity.
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He didn't want the same personover and over again,
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and when you do the math,
and he's requiring
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a different person
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those numbers add up.
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‐ He literally
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that was all he did was abuse.
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It was a revolving doorof girls coming through.
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[tense music]
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‐ I first met JeffreyJanuary of 2000.
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I was working as a model.
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All my friends
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I loved the lifestyle.
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Going out,art gallery openings,
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charity events.
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Ghislaine I saw
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We all kind of knewthat she had
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a very special relationshipwith Jeffrey,
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and I was so fascinatedwith his whole world
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that he lived in.
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He was mysterious,
he was wealthy,
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and he knew
all the right people.
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When I would be there,he would always be talking
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to the richest manin the world.
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He would tell me, like,
little secrets about people.
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He always knew the secrets.
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That was really important
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‐ Jeffrey Epstein became
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a spectacularly rich
financial advisor.
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He said at the timethat he only wanted clients
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who had assets wortha billion dollars or more.
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Through a mutual acquaintance,
Epstein meets
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a genuine billionaireand arguably
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the most important manin his life.
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‐ At some point in time
you met and managed the money
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for a fella named
Leslie Wexner, correct?
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‐ Again, I would like
to answer all questions...
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‐ Les Wexner was the owner
of the Limited Brand,
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which is Victoria's Secret,
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and a very,very wealthy individual.
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‐ By 1991, Epsteinhad not only become
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Wexner's financial advisor.
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He was his only client.
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What was even more bizarrewas that Wexner
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signed over power of attorneyto Epstein.
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This was essentiallyallowing Epstein
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to do absolutely anythingin relation
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to his financial affairs.
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♪ ♪
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And if you're thinkingthis is a weird arrangement,
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that's because
it's a very weird arrangement.
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♪ ♪
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‐ Les Wexnerhad bought and renovated
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a house on East 71st Street,
296
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and then the next thingwe knew about this house
297
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was that Jeffrey Epstein
had moved in,
298
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and the story going around
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was that he had
just given it to Jeffrey.
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♪ ♪
301
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What is itabout the relationship
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between Les Wexnerand Jeffrey Epstein
303
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that would inspire him to make
such an extraordinary gift?
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‐ The way Les Wexner
looked at Epstein was
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with, like, puppy dog eyes.
306
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It was‐‐I think
if Epstein could love,
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the only person he loved
was himself and Les Wexner.
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‐ This relationshipis so important
309
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because it allows Epstein tocreate a fortune for himself
310
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and it also allows hima kind of entry
311
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into the world of modeling.
312
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‐ Les Wexnerand Victoria's Secret
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is a hugemodeling connection‐‐
314
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something that I'm sure
Jeffrey Epstein identified
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from the very beginning.
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One model knowsa whole bunch of models.
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One person gave him accessto hundreds of people.
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♪ ♪
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‐ He had youintroduce friends
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and the friendsintroduce more friends.
321
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Jeffrey would pay you if you
introduced him to people.
322
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He would say
it was transactional.
323
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That was his thing.
324
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♪ ♪
325
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He really liked me,but I wasn't his type.
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What he liked me forwas to meet more women.
327
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He was very specific‐‐
328
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young, pretty, tall,
thin blondes.
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He liked blondes.
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♪ ♪
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‐ I was a modelin New York City,
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and it was a job
that I didn't think
333
00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:32,325
I could ever have,
and it was a job that I wanted.
334
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♪ ♪
335
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And it's everything you thinkNew York and fashion is.
336
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It was very exciting.
337
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♪ ♪
338
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‐ I lived in a model's
apartment in Midtown.
339
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I think it was on 42nd street.
340
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And it was a huge apartment.
341
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Any given time,there could be three girls
342
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or there could be 20 girls.
343
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♪ ♪
344
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We were allabout the same age,
345
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and we were in the cityby ourselves, you know,
346
00:16:57,683 --> 00:16:59,727
some of us for the first time.
347
00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:03,689
♪ ♪
348
00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:07,944
‐ The modeling industrywas a clear, easy target
349
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,487
for Jeffrey Epstein.
350
00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:11,197
♪ ♪
351
00:17:11,322 --> 00:17:14,909
You had young, ambitious,
beautiful women
352
00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:17,036
coming to New Yorkfrom all over the world,
353
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,788
dying to make it.
354
00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:21,207
They want to bethe next big model
355
00:17:21,290 --> 00:17:23,084
more than anything
they've ever wanted,
356
00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:24,877
and Jeffrey Epstein
357
00:17:25,002 --> 00:17:26,629
promised to maketheir dreams come true.
358
00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,589
♪ ♪
359
00:17:28,673 --> 00:17:30,174
‐ Jeffrey was very powerful.
360
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♪ ♪
361
00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:33,302
As a model,I was doing really well,
362
00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:35,304
but I wantedto be a Ford model,
363
00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:37,348
so I had told Jeffrey,and he said,
364
00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:39,475
"Oh, I know the owner,"and he called up,
365
00:17:39,517 --> 00:17:42,728
and, like, within a few days,I went and met with them,
366
00:17:42,853 --> 00:17:45,064
and they said,
"Oh, we love Jeffrey,"
367
00:17:45,147 --> 00:17:48,609
of course,
and they signed me right up.
368
00:17:48,693 --> 00:17:52,280
He would manipulate youin any way that he could
369
00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:55,074
for whatever you wantedto get more women.
370
00:17:55,199 --> 00:17:57,660
I'll make this happen for you
if you do what I want.
371
00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:59,495
♪ ♪
372
00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,080
‐ He used peoplefor what they were good at,
373
00:18:01,205 --> 00:18:02,707
and that's it.
374
00:18:02,832 --> 00:18:04,500
I'm sure he had the same kind
of relationship with men.
375
00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:07,461
He took whatever somebody
had to offer
376
00:18:07,545 --> 00:18:09,630
whether it was money,
whether it was an idea,
377
00:18:09,714 --> 00:18:11,299
whether it was an opportunity.
378
00:18:11,382 --> 00:18:14,552
Whatever that person
had to offer,
379
00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:16,262
Jeffrey Epstein took it.
380
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,347
♪ ♪
381
00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:21,809
Jean‐Luc Brunelis a French model scout.
382
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He's someone
who rose to the top
383
00:18:23,728 --> 00:18:26,647
of the modeling profession
and had a terrible reputation
384
00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:29,525
for harassing and tryingto sleep with his models.
385
00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:33,487
He met Ghislaine in the '80s,and she introduced him
386
00:18:33,571 --> 00:18:36,198
to Jeffrey Epstein
in the '90s.
387
00:18:36,324 --> 00:18:38,868
Brunel was anothercentral figure
388
00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,494
in this operation.
389
00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,246
♪ ♪
390
00:18:42,330 --> 00:18:44,582
‐ They ultimately decideto go into business
391
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with one another.
392
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Jeffrey Epstein is here
393
00:18:47,543 --> 00:18:50,838
with an unlimited amount
of money,
394
00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:52,298
and Jean‐Luc Brunelis over here
395
00:18:52,381 --> 00:18:55,009
with unlimited accessto young women
396
00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:56,969
that are inthe modeling industry.
397
00:18:57,053 --> 00:19:00,014
It was reallythe perfect storm.
398
00:19:00,097 --> 00:19:01,766
‐ Jean‐Luc Brunelwas the owner
399
00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:03,351
of the agencyI modeled with.
400
00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:06,145
I had the impressionthat he was kind of‐‐
401
00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:08,314
he could make or break
a girl's career.
402
00:19:08,397 --> 00:19:11,817
I was warned by a few models‐‐stay away from him.
403
00:19:11,942 --> 00:19:15,738
‐ It's easy to capitalizeon the inherent exploitation
404
00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:17,865
that comes with being a model.
405
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:20,701
♪ ♪
406
00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:23,954
‐ It is very common practice,if you're doing a runway show,
407
00:19:24,038 --> 00:19:26,832
to get undressed very quickly
in front of other people,
408
00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:29,251
and you're desensitized to it
because that's what you do,
409
00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:31,420
you know, to get the job done.
410
00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:33,464
‐ It putsvery vulnerable women
411
00:19:33,589 --> 00:19:36,676
that are very young
in a position
412
00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,135
where they can't say no.
413
00:19:38,219 --> 00:19:42,598
You have no choice
but to submit, to say yes,
414
00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:44,975
in orderto further your career.
415
00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:52,191
♪ ♪
416
00:19:57,780 --> 00:19:59,949
‐ As a kid,what I would daydream about
417
00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,076
was being a model.
418
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,494
I remember my room.
419
00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:05,996
My walls were covered
with ad campaigns
420
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,873
and pictures of models.
421
00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:09,041
It just seemed so glamorous.
422
00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:10,751
♪ ♪
423
00:20:10,835 --> 00:20:13,337
My parents took photosin the backyard
424
00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:16,298
and sent themto several agencies.
425
00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,801
Summer after I signed,I went by myself to New York.
426
00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:22,054
♪ ♪
427
00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:24,223
‐ I grew up in rural Alaska.
428
00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:26,100
It was a very unusual placeto grow up.
429
00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:28,310
There's not many people there.
430
00:20:28,436 --> 00:20:29,770
It's mostly surroundedby nature,
431
00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:31,355
and comforts don't come easy.
432
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,982
Like, running water.
433
00:20:33,107 --> 00:20:34,525
We had an outhouse
for a little while.
434
00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:35,818
♪ ♪
435
00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:39,113
So when I left,
I was definitely very naive.
436
00:20:39,196 --> 00:20:40,823
♪ ♪
437
00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:43,617
My cousin was livingin San Francisco,
438
00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:45,536
and so I just thoughtit was an opportunity
439
00:20:45,661 --> 00:20:47,663
to go down thereand just dip my toe
440
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,832
into what life was likein the city.
441
00:20:49,874 --> 00:20:52,585
I must have been shyof my 19th birthday.
442
00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:54,587
I had lived with her
just for a couple months
443
00:20:54,670 --> 00:20:56,464
before I was scouted
to be a model
444
00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,507
and moved to New York City.
445
00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:01,302
♪ ♪
446
00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:04,722
‐ Jeffrey Epsteinparticularly targeted models.
447
00:21:04,847 --> 00:21:07,475
If you come to New York City
and you want to be a model,
448
00:21:07,558 --> 00:21:10,436
being given an opportunityto meet a very powerful,
449
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:13,272
very wealthy manwho has connections‐‐
450
00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:14,982
that's an opportunitythat you wanna take.
451
00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:16,734
♪ ♪
452
00:21:16,859 --> 00:21:18,402
‐ I was 19.
453
00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:21,864
I was in New York on my own,which was a scary place,
454
00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:23,783
but I knew that I could do it.
455
00:21:23,866 --> 00:21:25,159
They had me cut my hair
456
00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:26,994
really shortlike "Rosemary's Baby,"
457
00:21:27,077 --> 00:21:28,871
and it looked horrible.
458
00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:31,582
After that, they let me go.
459
00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:34,126
I had no money,and so I started working
460
00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:36,545
at The Coffee Shopas a hostess.
461
00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:40,299
The Coffee Shop was kind ofa legendary establishment.
462
00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:42,718
They hired modelsand actresses,
463
00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:44,804
and that's when I metthe recruiter.
464
00:21:44,845 --> 00:21:46,138
♪ ♪
465
00:21:46,222 --> 00:21:48,974
She was a young,beautiful blonde,
466
00:21:49,016 --> 00:21:50,768
and she was like, "Wow,
you're really beautiful."
467
00:21:50,851 --> 00:21:52,436
♪ ♪
468
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,979
And she said, "I actuallywanted to talk to you
469
00:21:54,063 --> 00:21:55,606
about an opportunity."
470
00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,317
She told me about this manthat she worked for.
471
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,319
She called him her client,
472
00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:03,489
and he likes
to receive massages
473
00:22:03,572 --> 00:22:04,990
and he'll pay you
several hundred dollars
474
00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:07,034
for 30 minutes.
475
00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:08,452
She just kept making it seem
476
00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:10,329
like a really greatopportunity,
477
00:22:10,454 --> 00:22:11,747
and it just kept soundingbetter and better.
478
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,499
He has tiesto the fashion industry.
479
00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:15,709
He's friendswith a bunch of supermodels.
480
00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,045
I said, "Well, I don't haveany massage experience."
481
00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:19,713
And she said,"It doesn't matter.
482
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:21,799
You know, he justlikes young, pretty girls."
483
00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:23,342
♪ ♪
484
00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:25,469
I was broke, and it sounded
like an opportunity
485
00:22:25,511 --> 00:22:27,137
where he could help me
if he liked me.
486
00:22:27,263 --> 00:22:28,973
♪ ♪
487
00:22:29,098 --> 00:22:32,184
‐ I had an accident, and I hadto get stitches on my chin.
488
00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:34,311
They didn't thinkI was a viable model,
489
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,647
and so they kicked me out
of the modeling apartment.
490
00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:39,942
It was kind of, like,in survival mode.
491
00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:41,610
A friend of mine at the time
492
00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:43,362
said that she wantedto introduce me
493
00:22:43,445 --> 00:22:45,489
to a friend of hers,that he was helping her
494
00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:48,450
pursuing her passionof being an artist.
495
00:22:48,534 --> 00:22:50,870
That happens every single day
in New York.
496
00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:53,622
It's all about meeting people
and hanging out.
497
00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:55,666
I really didn't think
anything of it.
498
00:22:55,791 --> 00:22:57,293
♪ ♪
499
00:22:57,418 --> 00:23:00,296
We took the subwayto the Upper East Side.
500
00:23:00,421 --> 00:23:02,464
I remember my friendsaying that this guy
501
00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:05,384
lived in the largest townhouse
in New York.
502
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,761
‐ The mansionon East 71st Street
503
00:23:07,845 --> 00:23:09,638
is one ofthe largest private residence
504
00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:11,098
in Manhattan.
505
00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:12,766
♪ ♪
506
00:23:12,850 --> 00:23:17,021
Very imperial, very kind of
palace‐like inside.
507
00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:18,647
‐ It's like a museum,
508
00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:20,524
but it was very darkand very dreary
509
00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:22,818
and just had this,
like, really eerie feeling.
510
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,778
I never got a good feeling
there at all.
511
00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:26,947
‐ And apparently there wasa room by the front door
512
00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:28,949
with a surveillance systemthroughout the whole house
513
00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:31,285
so that things could be
monitored and recorded.
514
00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,495
‐ And it was
monitoring everything‐‐
515
00:23:33,621 --> 00:23:36,749
bathrooms, massage rooms,everyone's room.
516
00:23:36,874 --> 00:23:38,959
The entire mansionwas being watched.
517
00:23:39,001 --> 00:23:41,295
‐ This mansionhad dozens of rooms.
518
00:23:41,337 --> 00:23:44,048
It was intendedto intimidate people.
519
00:23:44,173 --> 00:23:46,800
‐ "Alice in Wonderland"
is, like, how I describe it.
520
00:23:46,884 --> 00:23:49,094
How do I know
how to get out of that house?
521
00:23:49,178 --> 00:23:52,097
That house is huge,
and it's a maze.
522
00:23:52,181 --> 00:23:54,934
‐ Beneath the kind of glamourand the wealth,
523
00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:57,603
there was a very dark sideto this property.
524
00:23:57,686 --> 00:23:59,647
‐ Jeffrey wasreally particular about
525
00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:03,108
who he was seen with, but hewas not a very social person.
526
00:24:03,192 --> 00:24:06,487
He wasn't out in front
of everybody with everything.
527
00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:08,989
He was very private.
528
00:24:09,073 --> 00:24:11,742
Jeffrey always wantedto meet women at his house.
529
00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:15,871
They always came to his house,
like, behind closed doors.
530
00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:17,957
♪ ♪
531
00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:22,294
‐ The appointment was around
532
00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:24,630
11:00 or 12:00in the afternoon.
533
00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:27,007
♪ ♪
534
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:29,134
A maid answered the door.
535
00:24:29,218 --> 00:24:31,303
She could barely look me
in the eye.
536
00:24:31,387 --> 00:24:33,472
She led me to an elevator
537
00:24:33,514 --> 00:24:35,265
where we wentto the second floor.
538
00:24:35,349 --> 00:24:38,894
I had never seen anythinglike that before in my life,
539
00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:41,355
so I just went and sat down
and I was super nervous.
540
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,232
Finally, he walks in
541
00:24:43,357 --> 00:24:46,151
with a towelwrapped around his body.
542
00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:47,653
I didn't know where I was.
543
00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:49,154
I wasn't reallypaying attention
544
00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:50,406
walking into the house.
545
00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:51,490
After the maid
had shut the door,
546
00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:53,075
I felt trapped.
547
00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:54,660
♪ ♪
548
00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:55,911
‐ When Jeffrey Epsteinentered the room,
549
00:24:56,036 --> 00:24:58,497
she knewshe was trapped already.
550
00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:01,792
She was terrified already.
551
00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,461
The conversation
that he started with her
552
00:25:04,545 --> 00:25:08,632
was to calm her down
so he could get what he wanted.
553
00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:10,217
♪ ♪
554
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:11,343
‐ He asked mewhat my name was.
555
00:25:11,468 --> 00:25:13,178
He asked me where I was from.
556
00:25:13,303 --> 00:25:15,139
I told him I was from Texas,and he was kind of tickled
557
00:25:15,264 --> 00:25:17,182
by it, but it seemed likebusiness as usual for him.
558
00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:18,767
♪ ♪
559
00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:20,519
So he laid facedownon the massage table
560
00:25:20,602 --> 00:25:24,273
where I very awkwardly beganto massage him.
561
00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:25,816
I didn't know
what I was doing,
562
00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:27,818
and I was like, "This guy
is gonna hate this."
563
00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:29,403
♪ ♪
564
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:32,114
He asked meto take my clothes off.
565
00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,116
I was trembling.
566
00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:37,119
I was so scared,and I took my clothes off.
567
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,746
♪ ♪
568
00:25:38,871 --> 00:25:42,833
He began to touch me...
569
00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:44,460
aggressively.
570
00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:46,211
♪ ♪
571
00:25:46,336 --> 00:25:50,007
And it quickly turned
into an assault.
572
00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:53,260
♪ ♪
573
00:25:53,343 --> 00:25:55,971
I distinctly rememberhim smiling
574
00:25:56,096 --> 00:25:58,599
and enjoying the factthat he was doing
575
00:25:58,682 --> 00:26:03,020
this horrible thing to me
that obviously terrified me
576
00:26:03,145 --> 00:26:05,814
and was violating me,
577
00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:08,150
but he was somehow
getting off on that.
578
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:10,277
[sighs]
579
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:11,779
♪ ♪
580
00:26:11,862 --> 00:26:14,406
‐ She knew that she had
581
00:26:14,531 --> 00:26:19,453
to either
fight, run, or freeze.
582
00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:21,830
Those are the three
human responses
583
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,832
to that perceived sense
of danger.
584
00:26:23,874 --> 00:26:25,876
♪ ♪
585
00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:27,294
She froze.
586
00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:28,962
♪ ♪
587
00:26:29,004 --> 00:26:32,674
‐ Jeffrey came in, and he,like, interviews me.
588
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,968
"What are your interests?Where do you live?
589
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:37,513
I like to help young people.I'm helping your friend here."
590
00:26:37,638 --> 00:26:39,640
And she's looking at me
and looking all coy
591
00:26:39,723 --> 00:26:41,016
'cause she's sitting
next to me.
592
00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:42,476
♪ ♪
593
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,145
My friendinitiated the assault,
594
00:26:45,229 --> 00:26:49,316
and that continued with him
participating in it as well.
595
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:50,818
♪ ♪
596
00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:53,529
It's like all of reality
just kind of fell away.
597
00:26:53,654 --> 00:26:57,366
I just kind of froze,
598
00:26:57,491 --> 00:26:59,827
and I just complied.
599
00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:02,037
♪ ♪
600
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:06,041
‐ They have to do literally
what they have to do
601
00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:09,294
to get out of the moment
and keep their life intact
602
00:27:09,419 --> 00:27:12,422
because the fear
is at a mortal level,
603
00:27:12,506 --> 00:27:16,552
and the damage of that traumacontinues into their lives
604
00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:18,178
from that point forward.
605
00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:19,847
♪ ♪
606
00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,015
‐ I had never hada sexual experience before.
607
00:27:22,099 --> 00:27:26,478
I was 19,
and that was my introduction
608
00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:29,481
to any intimate experience.
609
00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:30,732
♪ ♪
610
00:27:30,858 --> 00:27:33,652
He handed me the money, $200,
611
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:36,155
and that was it.
612
00:27:36,196 --> 00:27:37,573
He left.
613
00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:39,533
The maid came back
a couple minutes later,
614
00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,743
and she led me out.
615
00:27:41,869 --> 00:27:43,287
I couldn't figure out
what had just hap‐‐
616
00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:45,831
I was so confused.
617
00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:48,125
What just happened?
618
00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:50,419
♪ ♪
619
00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:52,629
I called my momjust bawling in tears.
620
00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:54,923
I said, "You have
to come get me now.
621
00:27:55,007 --> 00:27:57,467
You have to get me.
I can't be here anymore."
622
00:27:57,593 --> 00:28:00,804
And I was home.
623
00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:01,972
♪ ♪
624
00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:03,640
But it didn't feel like home
625
00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:05,517
because I wasn't
the same person anymore.
626
00:28:05,601 --> 00:28:07,728
♪ ♪
627
00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:11,815
‐ When you traditionallythink of rape,
628
00:28:11,899 --> 00:28:14,109
you think of someone coming inwith, like, you know,
629
00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:16,653
a ski mask on
holding a knife to you,
630
00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:18,864
tying you up, and raping you.
631
00:28:18,989 --> 00:28:21,033
You don't think
of manipulation.
632
00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:22,367
♪ ♪
633
00:28:22,492 --> 00:28:24,953
And I remember my friendclearly saying to me,
634
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:27,664
"Oh, that was so much fun.
We should do that again."
635
00:28:27,748 --> 00:28:29,291
♪ ♪
636
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:31,001
And she went on,and he really liked me‐‐
637
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:33,420
she could tell‐‐like she was grooming me
638
00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:35,297
to go back.
639
00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:39,343
♪ ♪
640
00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:43,972
‐ After a young womanwas abused by Jeffrey Epstein,
641
00:28:44,097 --> 00:28:45,807
she would leave the house,and she would be called
642
00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:47,851
by one of Jeffrey's assistants
643
00:28:47,935 --> 00:28:49,519
and asked, "Hey, do you
wanna come back again?
644
00:28:49,645 --> 00:28:52,731
Mr. Epstein really liked you.
He wants to see you again."
645
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:55,609
And he was ableto use this process
646
00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:58,028
to feel outtheir comfort level.
647
00:28:58,153 --> 00:29:03,283
♪ ♪
648
00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:05,744
‐ Sexual predators
cast their net widely.
649
00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:07,913
They have a patternof behavior,
650
00:29:08,038 --> 00:29:10,666
and a typethat they're looking for.
651
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:13,502
Some of them will haveenough ego strength
652
00:29:13,627 --> 00:29:18,131
or something in their lives
that allows them to escape,
653
00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:21,301
not be swept in, and the ones
that do get swept in
654
00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:24,429
are the onesthat have psychological,
655
00:29:24,513 --> 00:29:27,766
environmental vulnerabilities.
656
00:29:27,849 --> 00:29:29,309
If you're abused,
if you're neglected,
657
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:35,649
and those are the individuals
that he exploited.
658
00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,402
♪ ♪
659
00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:45,492
[gentle music]
660
00:29:45,575 --> 00:29:47,160
‐ Epstein'sproperty portfolio
661
00:29:47,244 --> 00:29:49,496
wasn't just aboutshowing off his wealth
662
00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:51,707
and being ostentatious.
663
00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:54,793
It allowed him to have
private bases in areas
664
00:29:54,918 --> 00:29:57,462
where he could conduct
his sex trafficking operation.
665
00:29:57,546 --> 00:30:00,090
So having a placein Florida,
666
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:03,593
New York, Paris,in New Mexico,
667
00:30:03,677 --> 00:30:05,846
gave him another layerof privacy,
668
00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:07,180
another layer of secrecy
669
00:30:07,306 --> 00:30:09,099
so that he could carry on
what he's doing.
670
00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:14,187
♪ ♪
671
00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:19,109
‐ Jeffrey had boughtthis ranch in New Mexico...
672
00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:20,569
♪ ♪
673
00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:22,321
And he'd named El Zorro.
674
00:30:22,446 --> 00:30:26,491
♪ ♪
675
00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:30,495
Ghislaine's nickname for himat the time was Silverado.
676
00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:33,498
♪ ♪
677
00:30:33,582 --> 00:30:37,461
"Silverado, Silverado,
urban cowboy, desperado."
678
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:43,216
♪ ♪
679
00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:46,636
‐ Zorro Ranchis this vast holding‐‐
680
00:30:46,762 --> 00:30:50,098
10,000 acresin southern Santa Fe County.
681
00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:55,145
Part of that 10,000 acreswere 1,200 state‐owned land.
682
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:57,856
♪ ♪
683
00:30:57,981 --> 00:31:01,735
I'm the commissioner
of public lands in New Mexico.
684
00:31:01,818 --> 00:31:03,612
So if you look backin the history
685
00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:06,490
of how this land was acquiredby Jeffrey Epstein,
686
00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:10,535
you'll see these big,
political names pop up.
687
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:14,247
Jeffrey Epsteinwas giving contributions
688
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:17,167
not onlyto the top decision makers,
689
00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:22,589
but at all levels of government
even in the sheriff's race.
690
00:31:22,672 --> 00:31:24,966
♪ ♪
691
00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:27,427
What was strikingabout going back
692
00:31:27,511 --> 00:31:29,971
through the documents
is that even after
693
00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:34,017
Jeffrey Epstein was arrested,
these leases were renewed
694
00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:35,519
by previous commissioners.
695
00:31:35,644 --> 00:31:39,398
♪ ♪
696
00:31:39,523 --> 00:31:42,567
I'm the first woman that'sever held this position,
697
00:31:42,651 --> 00:31:45,612
and, to me, that's significantbecause I look
698
00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:48,740
through a different lensthan my predecessors did.
699
00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,283
To know that people
look the other way
700
00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:53,787
and allowed it to continue
is devastating to me.
701
00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:57,290
♪ ♪
702
00:31:57,374 --> 00:32:00,043
Jeffrey Epsteinessentially had an island
703
00:32:00,168 --> 00:32:02,462
within the stateof New Mexico.
704
00:32:02,504 --> 00:32:05,090
If you talk with someof the folks who did work
705
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,300
during the construction,they talk about
706
00:32:07,426 --> 00:32:10,095
how secretive everything was,how they had to be escorted
707
00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:11,972
everywhere they went.
708
00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:13,640
There are many storiesabout that veil of secrecy.
709
00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:15,809
♪ ♪
710
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:17,436
‐ Somebody likeJeffrey Epstein‐‐
711
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,314
the whole process was designedto evade detection.
712
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,483
♪ ♪
713
00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:27,070
Every single successfulsexual predator
714
00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:30,073
is successful
because the way
715
00:32:30,157 --> 00:32:32,284
that they manipulate,
716
00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:34,661
the way that they
pull the strings.
717
00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:36,955
♪ ♪
718
00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:39,124
‐ Jeffrey always wanted
to meet more women.
719
00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:40,542
It was always
about meeting more women.
720
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,419
Some of them were
on the level that I was on.
721
00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:44,212
Some of them were
on the massage level,
722
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:45,964
and I think he was testing
some of them
723
00:32:46,006 --> 00:32:49,426
for the deeper level
that we've now come to know.
724
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:52,304
♪ ♪
725
00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:56,808
‐ I was bornin Santa Fe, New Mexico.
726
00:32:56,892 --> 00:32:58,435
♪ ♪
727
00:32:58,518 --> 00:33:01,646
My parents were divorcedwhen I was four years old.
728
00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,398
♪ ♪
729
00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:07,819
It was a tumultuous childhood,and I was rebellious,
730
00:33:07,861 --> 00:33:09,279
acting out.
731
00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:11,531
Lost my virginitywhen I was young.
732
00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,367
I started running away
when I was 13 years old
733
00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:18,705
probably seeking
some attention.
734
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:23,418
As an adult, didn't reallyknow what I wanted.
735
00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,504
♪ ♪
736
00:33:25,629 --> 00:33:27,672
And I went to massage school.
737
00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:31,218
♪ ♪
738
00:33:31,343 --> 00:33:35,180
‐ He targeted industriesin which he could use
739
00:33:35,305 --> 00:33:38,975
the nature of the job
to get what he wanted.
740
00:33:39,059 --> 00:33:41,019
♪ ♪
741
00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,189
‐ He knew that to manipulatethe situation
742
00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:46,983
into a sexual relationship
743
00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:48,985
that he didn't have to startfrom square one.
744
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:51,863
He could start with a massage
with touching.
745
00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:53,532
♪ ♪
746
00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:55,992
You're recruited by somebody
who's a real masseuse,
747
00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:59,079
and it looks like
there's a massage table,
748
00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:01,873
and it slowly evolves.
749
00:34:01,998 --> 00:34:04,501
♪ ♪
750
00:34:04,626 --> 00:34:07,045
‐ Massage school,
it was a really great
751
00:34:07,170 --> 00:34:08,296
turning point in my life.
752
00:34:08,338 --> 00:34:10,298
I did a lot of growing up.
753
00:34:10,382 --> 00:34:12,467
I wasn't running awayand on the streets
754
00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,844
and trying to survive.
755
00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:17,847
As a massage therapist,it put me
756
00:34:17,973 --> 00:34:21,309
in a very positive place
in my life.
757
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:25,522
During massage school,I met a massage therapist.
758
00:34:25,647 --> 00:34:28,483
She had a practice,
and she was contracting
759
00:34:28,525 --> 00:34:32,153
other therapists
to do the work for her.
760
00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:35,448
She has a clientele that wasa little more discerning
761
00:34:35,532 --> 00:34:37,993
and that she thoughtthat I was a good fit for it.
762
00:34:38,118 --> 00:34:39,494
♪ ♪
763
00:34:39,536 --> 00:34:42,497
So she contracted me
to go to Zorro Ranch.
764
00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:47,502
♪ ♪
765
00:34:47,627 --> 00:34:50,964
When I first went out there,I massaged Ghislaine.
766
00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,800
She made surethat I knew her name
767
00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:55,760
and howto pronounce it correctly.
768
00:34:55,844 --> 00:34:57,012
♪ ♪
769
00:34:57,137 --> 00:34:59,472
She had this teacup Yorkie.
770
00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:02,642
She says, "This is Max,short for Maxwell."
771
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:03,977
And she picks him up
772
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:06,980
and smothers his face
with kisses.
773
00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:09,608
Ghislainewas very intimidating to me
774
00:35:09,691 --> 00:35:12,360
'cause I knew we'd come from
complete different worlds.
775
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:13,987
♪ ♪
776
00:35:14,029 --> 00:35:17,324
She disrobedand plopped on my table.
777
00:35:17,407 --> 00:35:18,575
♪ ♪
778
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,119
I was trying to cover her
with the towel, you know,
779
00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:23,830
and do all the proper
draping techniques.
780
00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:26,291
She had no modesty,
781
00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:29,294
but she liked my massage.
782
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:30,170
♪ ♪
783
00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:32,672
She wanted me to come back.
784
00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:34,424
Then I massaged Jeffrey.
785
00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:38,053
♪ ♪
786
00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:43,266
Zorro Ranch,it's about a 40 minute drive
787
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:46,061
from Santa Fe,and it's a beautiful drive.
788
00:35:46,186 --> 00:35:47,604
I was really excited.
789
00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:48,980
♪ ♪
790
00:35:49,105 --> 00:35:51,483
It's very private,very secluded.
791
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:53,234
♪ ♪
792
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,862
And then you drivea quarter of a mile.
793
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,990
You can see stables.
794
00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:01,534
Then you drivetwo or three miles
795
00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:03,161
to the main house.
796
00:36:03,244 --> 00:36:05,455
It was enormous.
797
00:36:05,538 --> 00:36:07,749
♪ ♪
798
00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:11,211
The massage roomwas in a downstairs area
799
00:36:11,336 --> 00:36:13,338
with a gym
and then a massage table
800
00:36:13,463 --> 00:36:16,132
off to the side,
and then double doors
801
00:36:16,216 --> 00:36:17,967
that opened
into a indoor pool.
802
00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:19,386
♪ ♪
803
00:36:19,511 --> 00:36:23,556
Very luxurious.That impressed me.
804
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,975
These people were big,
big‐time.
805
00:36:26,101 --> 00:36:27,560
♪ ♪
806
00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:29,479
And then he came in.
807
00:36:29,562 --> 00:36:32,190
♪ ♪
808
00:36:32,273 --> 00:36:34,901
He was very intimidatingto me,
809
00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:38,321
but, you know, I tried to beas professional as I could.
810
00:36:38,405 --> 00:36:40,365
I asked him if he had
any outstanding areas
811
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,659
that he wanted me to work on
and he said,
812
00:36:42,742 --> 00:36:44,494
"We'll massage my feet,"
813
00:36:44,619 --> 00:36:46,121
and then he just started
asking me,
814
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:49,165
"Oh, can you do
my psoas muscle?"
815
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,000
Which is more closerto the groin.
816
00:36:51,126 --> 00:36:52,502
♪ ♪
817
00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:54,629
Before I really even had
a chance
818
00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,297
to, like, think about it,
819
00:36:56,381 --> 00:36:59,634
he proceeded to...
820
00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:01,636
♪ ♪
821
00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:04,305
Pleasure himself...
822
00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:07,642
and before I knew it, he had
already released himself.
823
00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:14,566
♪ ♪
824
00:37:15,859 --> 00:37:18,945
I felt like he just
disrespected my art.
825
00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:20,113
♪ ♪
826
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:21,322
[sighs]
827
00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:23,825
I was just kind of like,
"Ugh, God."
828
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:25,034
I was just like...
829
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,287
♪ ♪
830
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:29,497
"He's just a rich,
eccentric weirdo
831
00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:32,125
and wants to do
whatever he wants to do."
832
00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:36,880
♪ ♪
833
00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:39,299
And...
834
00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:41,342
yeah, there was‐‐
he wiped himself off,
835
00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,011
and he said,
"Okay, see you next time."
836
00:37:43,136 --> 00:37:49,601
♪ ♪
837
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:56,983
‐ There was some eventsthat happened
838
00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:58,610
when I was, like,
six years old‐‐
839
00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:02,197
childhood sexual abuse
at the hands
840
00:38:02,322 --> 00:38:04,866
of a teenage boy,18 years old.
841
00:38:04,949 --> 00:38:06,326
♪ ♪
842
00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:08,286
I did not speak out.
843
00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:10,955
I didn't have
the vocabulary for that...
844
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:12,540
♪ ♪
845
00:38:12,665 --> 00:38:16,044
But it happened again,and then the second time
846
00:38:16,169 --> 00:38:17,670
it happened,
it hit me harder.
847
00:38:17,796 --> 00:38:20,006
It was like,
"I'm not making this up.
848
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:22,258
I promise,
this happened to me."
849
00:38:22,342 --> 00:38:24,093
I was like,"Who's here to protect me?"
850
00:38:24,177 --> 00:38:26,304
♪ ♪
851
00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,348
So it just was
never dealt with, you know?
852
00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:31,976
It was just secret
upon secret upon secret.
853
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,604
♪ ♪
854
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:38,107
‐ A person who comes from
a place where you were abused
855
00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:40,318
by your uncle,
by your stepfather,
856
00:38:40,443 --> 00:38:41,778
by your mother's boyfriend,
857
00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:43,404
then that's
your view of the world‐‐
858
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,491
that you are essentially
859
00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:49,244
a body that an adult male
860
00:38:49,369 --> 00:38:51,746
can use for his own pleasure.
861
00:38:51,871 --> 00:38:54,499
They were called overfor a massage.
862
00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:58,086
It became a sexual assault.You know, what else is new?
863
00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:00,004
♪ ♪
864
00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:04,175
‐ The next timethat I massaged Jeffrey,
865
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,970
it got a little more intense.
866
00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:08,471
♪ ♪
867
00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:10,682
He started asking me
to take my shirt off.
868
00:39:10,765 --> 00:39:11,933
♪ ♪
869
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:15,144
You know, he wanted me
to rub oil on myself.
870
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:16,271
♪ ♪
871
00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:17,981
And I really didn't want to.
872
00:39:18,106 --> 00:39:21,860
♪ ♪
873
00:39:21,985 --> 00:39:23,278
I felt pressured.
874
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:25,738
I felt, "Oh, if I don't do it,
875
00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:27,782
then he's notgonna want me back."
876
00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:29,158
♪ ♪
877
00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:31,870
I just allowed it to happen.
878
00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:36,875
♪ ♪
879
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,128
I felt shame,
so much shame about it,
880
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,839
but there was that switch
that I was able
881
00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:44,549
to turn on and off.
882
00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:47,135
I thinkthat was engrained in me.
883
00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:52,724
♪ ♪
884
00:39:54,434 --> 00:39:56,144
‐ There are manydifferent reasons
885
00:39:56,269 --> 00:39:58,938
why people go back.
886
00:40:00,565 --> 00:40:02,734
The one thingthat they all have in common
887
00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:06,696
is a really brokenego structure.
888
00:40:09,032 --> 00:40:12,577
They don't have the ability
to read themselves
889
00:40:12,702 --> 00:40:14,329
or the situation correctly
890
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:15,830
because they've
never been taught.
891
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:19,083
♪ ♪
892
00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:20,501
‐ It was almost like I was,
893
00:40:20,627 --> 00:40:22,629
like,that 6‐year‐old girl again.
894
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:25,131
♪ ♪
895
00:40:25,214 --> 00:40:26,466
Nobody believed me then,
896
00:40:26,591 --> 00:40:28,635
but are they gonnabelieve me now?
897
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,766
♪ ♪
898
00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:38,645
So I kept it a secret.
899
00:40:38,686 --> 00:40:41,689
♪ ♪
900
00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:46,235
It's like a weightthat you wear your whole life
901
00:40:46,361 --> 00:40:51,115
that allows you
to be subjected
902
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,826
to more abuse.
903
00:40:53,952 --> 00:41:00,833
♪ ♪
904
00:41:04,921 --> 00:41:08,466
I blamed myself for makingthe wrong choices,
905
00:41:08,508 --> 00:41:12,387
but it's easy to be lured
906
00:41:12,512 --> 00:41:15,974
by money, promises,
907
00:41:16,057 --> 00:41:19,352
and to have your senseof what's right and wrong
908
00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:22,939
dulled when you've gotall these sparkly things
909
00:41:23,022 --> 00:41:24,691
in front of you.
910
00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:25,650
♪ ♪
911
00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:29,487
It's easy to be manipulated
912
00:41:29,529 --> 00:41:34,701
by a very powerful man.
913
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,453
♪ ♪
914
00:41:37,537 --> 00:41:40,206
‐ A number of the survivorsof Jeffrey Epstein
915
00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:42,709
had endured some type
of sexual trauma
916
00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,503
as children prior
to ever having met him,
917
00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:47,922
and that's
a particular vulnerability
918
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:50,925
that can be detected
by somebody
919
00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:53,011
who's as masterful
of a manipulator
920
00:41:53,136 --> 00:41:54,679
as Jeffrey Epstein.
921
00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:56,639
♪ ♪
922
00:41:56,764 --> 00:41:58,474
Jeffrey wasn't
my first trafficker.
923
00:41:58,558 --> 00:42:00,476
He wasn't my first abuser.
924
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,853
♪ ♪
925
00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:03,938
My childhoodwas stolen from me.
926
00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:06,899
♪ ♪
927
00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:09,694
‐ Beginning three daysafter my eighth birthday,
928
00:42:09,819 --> 00:42:13,740
I was firstsexually assaulted,
929
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:17,493
and that happened repeatedly
for a long time.
930
00:42:17,577 --> 00:42:19,037
♪ ♪
931
00:42:19,162 --> 00:42:23,041
I learned back thenthat you just kind of
932
00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:24,417
suffer through it.
933
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:26,461
You suffer in silence.
934
00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:28,838
♪ ♪
935
00:42:28,963 --> 00:42:31,632
Growing upwith that experience,
936
00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:34,719
it definitely set me upfor being there
937
00:42:34,844 --> 00:42:36,345
in Jeffrey's office
938
00:42:36,471 --> 00:42:38,181
pretendinglike it's not happening.
939
00:42:38,306 --> 00:42:40,475
♪ ♪
940
00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:43,811
I got to a point in life
where I felt like...
941
00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:44,729
♪ ♪
942
00:42:44,854 --> 00:42:46,481
This is what happens to you.
943
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,357
♪ ♪
944
00:42:48,483 --> 00:42:50,902
This is what you're here for.
945
00:42:50,985 --> 00:42:52,904
♪ ♪
946
00:42:53,029 --> 00:42:56,824
Like, I'm that objectto be used.
947
00:42:56,908 --> 00:43:03,790
♪ ♪
948
00:43:11,005 --> 00:43:15,093
‐ I came froma very unprivileged life.
949
00:43:15,176 --> 00:43:16,636
♪ ♪
950
00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:19,555
Even when we were in a home,
951
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,349
men in and out of the house...
952
00:43:21,474 --> 00:43:23,309
♪ ♪
953
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:26,521
You know,
various levels of abuse‐‐
954
00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:28,981
physically, sexually.
955
00:43:29,065 --> 00:43:30,566
♪ ♪
956
00:43:30,691 --> 00:43:33,903
I was in survival modefrom a very young age.
957
00:43:34,028 --> 00:43:36,823
I just wantedto be away from it all.
958
00:43:36,948 --> 00:43:38,658
♪ ♪
959
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,830
♪ ♪
960
00:43:43,913 --> 00:43:46,833
I moved inwith my cousin in Hollywood.
961
00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:50,336
The transition to L. A.was complete life switch.
962
00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:52,880
♪ ♪
963
00:43:53,005 --> 00:43:55,716
I was surroundedby celebrities,
964
00:43:55,842 --> 00:43:57,969
models, and directors.
965
00:43:58,094 --> 00:44:00,012
One of the parties
I was at one night,
966
00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:03,224
this man, Gypsy,comes walking up to me.
967
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:06,811
He told me that he was thismassage guru to the stars.
968
00:44:06,936 --> 00:44:09,772
He's drawn to my energy,but I was holding back.
969
00:44:09,856 --> 00:44:11,357
You know, I had blocks.
970
00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:14,485
Gypsy felt like someonewho was gonna help heal me.
971
00:44:14,569 --> 00:44:16,612
And I really needed it.
972
00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:18,072
♪ ♪
973
00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:19,657
Through that,it became a conversation
974
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:21,159
of, well, why don't youlearn the trade?
975
00:44:21,284 --> 00:44:22,660
♪ ♪
976
00:44:22,785 --> 00:44:24,579
And so, one day,Gypsy had said
977
00:44:24,704 --> 00:44:26,747
that he hadthis regular client,
978
00:44:26,873 --> 00:44:29,000
a socialite from New York
979
00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:30,793
and that he wanted me
to meet her
980
00:44:30,918 --> 00:44:33,796
and come along
for the appointment.
981
00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:36,132
We met her one dayat the Four Seasons Hotel
982
00:44:36,257 --> 00:44:37,133
in Beverly Hills.
983
00:44:37,258 --> 00:44:38,968
♪ ♪
984
00:44:39,093 --> 00:44:41,012
Ghislaine was very charming.
985
00:44:41,137 --> 00:44:42,722
She was talking to me so much,
986
00:44:42,847 --> 00:44:45,391
asked me a gazillionquestions about myself.
987
00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:47,143
♪ ♪
988
00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:49,645
‐ Sexual predatorsbring women into their life,
989
00:44:49,729 --> 00:44:52,148
and they make themfeel cared about
990
00:44:52,273 --> 00:44:55,818
or beautiful or accomplishedor interesting.
991
00:44:55,902 --> 00:45:01,115
That positive regard is
the most intoxicating thing.
992
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,911
♪ ♪
993
00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:08,748
‐ She called Gypsy to askif I would want to be hired
994
00:45:08,873 --> 00:45:11,000
as a masseuse
at her Palm Beach residence
995
00:45:11,083 --> 00:45:12,293
for the weekend.
996
00:45:12,418 --> 00:45:14,045
I wasn't even certified yet.
997
00:45:15,838 --> 00:45:19,217
Gypsy was just very adamantthat I should go.
998
00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:22,094
He ended up convincing methat it would be okay.
999
00:45:22,178 --> 00:45:25,139
♪ ♪
1000
00:45:29,227 --> 00:45:30,645
‐ I met Ghislaine
1001
00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:32,521
at a little private airportin Santa Monica.
1002
00:45:32,647 --> 00:45:34,482
Got in a jetand flew to Palm Beach.
1003
00:45:34,607 --> 00:45:37,652
♪ ♪
1004
00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:39,737
Because I waskind of submerged
1005
00:45:39,862 --> 00:45:42,240
in the Hollywood scenealready,
1006
00:45:42,365 --> 00:45:45,201
it wasn't that abnormalfor people with money
1007
00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:48,162
to do outlandish things
like that‐‐
1008
00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:50,373
to hire someone
and fly them somewhere.
1009
00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:53,960
None of it seemed
out of the ordinary at first.
1010
00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:56,337
I felt like they thoughtthat I was something special.
1011
00:45:56,462 --> 00:45:58,464
♪ ♪
1012
00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:01,050
We drive to their mansion.
1013
00:46:01,175 --> 00:46:02,677
On the way there,she points out
1014
00:46:02,802 --> 00:46:03,970
that Donald Trump'sa neighbor.
1015
00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:05,304
♪ ♪
1016
00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:07,223
She says,"With my partner Jeffrey,
1017
00:46:07,348 --> 00:46:09,475
just do whatever he wants,and you'll be fine."
1018
00:46:09,558 --> 00:46:11,143
♪ ♪
1019
00:46:11,269 --> 00:46:13,312
One of their assistantsmet me at the door...
1020
00:46:13,396 --> 00:46:15,940
♪ ♪
1021
00:46:16,023 --> 00:46:18,276
And she led medown the hallway
1022
00:46:18,359 --> 00:46:21,028
to this giant bathroom
1023
00:46:21,153 --> 00:46:23,155
where a massage tablewas laid out.
1024
00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:25,574
♪ ♪
1025
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,159
I got it all set up,
1026
00:46:27,243 --> 00:46:29,370
and as soon as I hadthe sheets on the table,
1027
00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:31,080
♪ ♪
1028
00:46:31,163 --> 00:46:33,332
This man comes waltzinginto the room
1029
00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:37,962
and drops his robe and says,
"Hi, I'm Jeffrey," and...
1030
00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:38,838
♪ ♪
1031
00:46:38,963 --> 00:46:40,464
...gets on the table.
1032
00:46:40,548 --> 00:46:42,717
♪ ♪
1033
00:46:42,842 --> 00:46:45,428
And sort of, like,
halfway through the massage,
1034
00:46:45,511 --> 00:46:49,473
he flipped over onto his back
and asked if I minded
1035
00:46:49,598 --> 00:46:50,516
if he touched himself.
1036
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:53,019
♪ ♪
1037
00:46:56,272 --> 00:46:59,275
You know, because I had comefrom a background of abuse,
1038
00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:01,902
when he asked meif he could touch himself,
1039
00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:05,323
you know,
I basically just said sure,
1040
00:47:05,448 --> 00:47:08,868
because I didn't know
what else to say or do.
1041
00:47:08,993 --> 00:47:11,454
I didn't know how to say no.
1042
00:47:11,537 --> 00:47:14,123
I didn't know how to saythat I'm not okay with that.
1043
00:47:14,206 --> 00:47:18,252
♪ ♪
1044
00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:19,879
‐ Your brainis trying to say,
1045
00:47:20,004 --> 00:47:21,172
"I don't understandwhat happened."
1046
00:47:21,297 --> 00:47:22,214
♪ ♪
1047
00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:23,966
You find yourself
in circumstances
1048
00:47:24,008 --> 00:47:25,634
over and over again where
the same dynamics are there,
1049
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,303
the same circumstances there.
1050
00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:29,138
♪ ♪
1051
00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:31,182
Reenactment is an attemptto understand
1052
00:47:31,307 --> 00:47:32,641
the sexual abuse,
1053
00:47:32,725 --> 00:47:34,477
and the reenactmentstend to be
1054
00:47:34,602 --> 00:47:37,104
specific reproductionsof that earlier event
1055
00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:39,106
that the mindis trying to comprehend.
1056
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:43,402
♪ ♪
1057
00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:47,698
‐ Jeffrey told meto come over here,
1058
00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:49,367
and he pushed me down,
1059
00:47:49,492 --> 00:47:53,120
forced oral sex on me
right there, and, um...
1060
00:47:53,204 --> 00:47:54,497
♪ ♪
1061
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:58,084
Part of the sexual abuse
that I experienced as a kid,
1062
00:47:58,167 --> 00:48:01,087
a man I knewused to force oral sex on me
1063
00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:03,339
kind of in the same demeanor.
1064
00:48:03,422 --> 00:48:05,800
♪ ♪
1065
00:48:05,925 --> 00:48:07,510
I would pretendlike I was asleep
1066
00:48:07,635 --> 00:48:09,845
to make it go away in my head,
1067
00:48:09,970 --> 00:48:12,515
and, you know,even in that moment,
1068
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,101
I remember the same thing.
1069
00:48:15,184 --> 00:48:19,438
Like, just almost pretending
like I wasn't there
1070
00:48:19,522 --> 00:48:23,526
♪ ♪
1071
00:48:23,651 --> 00:48:26,987
I was in this state of wantingto befriend the bad guy
1072
00:48:27,071 --> 00:48:29,532
because that'swhat I always did with him.
1073
00:48:29,657 --> 00:48:32,451
If I was on his good side,
he wouldn't hurt me.
1074
00:48:32,535 --> 00:48:36,288
♪ ♪
1075
00:48:36,372 --> 00:48:38,499
‐ It's almost likesomething takes over you
1076
00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:41,085
inside your body‐‐not knowing what to do
1077
00:48:41,168 --> 00:48:42,795
and just followingthrough the motions.
1078
00:48:42,837 --> 00:48:44,046
♪ ♪
1079
00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:46,715
There was no love
or compassion or empathy
1080
00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:48,175
in that man's heart whatsoever.
1081
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:53,222
♪ ♪
1082
00:48:53,347 --> 00:48:56,308
‐ My mind was just going crazywith what just happened.
1083
00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:57,810
♪ ♪
1084
00:48:57,935 --> 00:48:59,812
There were so many questions
I had in my head,
1085
00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:03,232
but I certainly
wasn't gonna go, you know,
1086
00:49:03,357 --> 00:49:04,859
tell Ghislaine
or the assistant.
1087
00:49:04,984 --> 00:49:06,444
♪ ♪
1088
00:49:06,527 --> 00:49:08,571
I had that mentalityof, like, you know,
1089
00:49:08,696 --> 00:49:10,406
if you don't talk about it,it didn't happen.
1090
00:49:10,489 --> 00:49:11,657
♪ ♪
1091
00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:13,367
And after that encounter,
1092
00:49:13,492 --> 00:49:15,995
Ghislaine
actually flew back to L. A.
1093
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,582
and proceeded
to book appointments with me.
1094
00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:21,083
I had no reason to think
1095
00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:23,461
that she had anythingto do with anything.
1096
00:49:23,544 --> 00:49:26,964
I already had this feeling of
not wanting to disappoint her
1097
00:49:27,089 --> 00:49:28,966
for whatever reason.
1098
00:49:29,049 --> 00:49:31,343
She invited me back outto Palm Beach again.
1099
00:49:31,469 --> 00:49:33,304
♪ ♪
1100
00:49:33,429 --> 00:49:35,139
I thought we werestaying there the weekend
1101
00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:37,433
like I had the first time,but they told me
1102
00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:40,019
that we were actually
flying to his island
1103
00:49:40,144 --> 00:49:43,689
in the Caribbean
and taking his big plane.
1104
00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:46,192
♪ ♪
1105
00:49:46,317 --> 00:49:48,152
That was certainly shocking.
1106
00:49:48,277 --> 00:49:49,945
Like, I had never seenan airplane like that before.
1107
00:49:50,029 --> 00:49:51,489
I mean,
it was like Air Force One.
1108
00:49:51,614 --> 00:49:53,741
♪ ♪
1109
00:49:53,866 --> 00:49:58,496
Bedroom, kitchen, screen room,living, sitting area,
1110
00:49:58,579 --> 00:50:02,291
and I was like, "Okay, wow,this is a plane.
1111
00:50:02,374 --> 00:50:04,251
♪ ♪
1112
00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:07,296
‐ They got distractedby the persona
1113
00:50:07,379 --> 00:50:10,716
of wealth and privilegeand luxuries and niceties
1114
00:50:10,841 --> 00:50:12,384
and look where you are
1115
00:50:12,510 --> 00:50:14,470
and lookwho you're hobnobbing with.
1116
00:50:14,553 --> 00:50:16,347
♪ ♪
1117
00:50:16,472 --> 00:50:18,098
And that inner voicehas to get loud enough
1118
00:50:18,182 --> 00:50:19,767
for that to beuncomfortable enough
1119
00:50:19,850 --> 00:50:21,352
for them to say,"Wait a minute.
1120
00:50:21,477 --> 00:50:23,354
"I don't think this is right.
1121
00:50:23,437 --> 00:50:25,314
"I gotta get
the hell out of here.
1122
00:50:25,397 --> 00:50:26,357
♪ ♪
1123
00:50:26,482 --> 00:50:27,816
I can't."
1124
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:30,444
‐ I definitely had to dosome self talk‐‐
1125
00:50:30,528 --> 00:50:33,822
that, "What if hetries to hurt me?"
1126
00:50:33,906 --> 00:50:36,242
I thought, "Well, this timeI'll be better prepared,
1127
00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:38,202
and I'll be able to say no."
1128
00:50:38,327 --> 00:50:40,412
Or even, you know,
I had this blind hope
1129
00:50:40,538 --> 00:50:42,498
that maybe he
just wouldn't do it again.
1130
00:50:42,581 --> 00:50:44,458
♪ ♪
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