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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,293 --> 00:00:04,171 [soft dramatic music] 2 00:00:04,254 --> 00:00:11,220 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:32,658 ‐ [exhales] 4 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:34,284 ♪ ♪ 5 00:00:34,368 --> 00:00:37,829 ‐ It's still something that I'm getting used to‐‐ 6 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:40,207 the term "survivor." 7 00:00:40,290 --> 00:00:44,753 This is a way to face my fears. 8 00:00:44,836 --> 00:00:47,714 ‐ I felt like 9 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:49,633 I could keep it a secret, and it was. 10 00:00:49,758 --> 00:00:51,301 It was my dirty little secret. 11 00:00:51,343 --> 00:00:53,303 ‐ I didn't want to share this with anybody. 12 00:00:53,387 --> 00:00:55,305 I would have taken this to my grave. 13 00:00:55,389 --> 00:00:57,724 ‐ Being abused by Jeffrey Epstein 14 00:00:57,849 --> 00:01:00,978 had a toll on the rest of my life. 15 00:01:01,103 --> 00:01:05,274 The trauma that I endured from him is a life sentence. 16 00:01:05,357 --> 00:01:07,234 ‐ Mark. 17 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:08,652 ‐ Tape two. Marker. 18 00:01:08,777 --> 00:01:11,071 ‐ Every day is unpredictable. 19 00:01:11,196 --> 00:01:12,948 One day it can be okay, and the next day, 20 00:01:13,031 --> 00:01:14,950 it's just brutal. 21 00:01:15,033 --> 00:01:17,369 ‐ Today, we announced the unsealing 22 00:01:17,494 --> 00:01:20,622 of sex trafficking charges against Jeffrey Epstein. 23 00:01:20,706 --> 00:01:23,625 ‐ Epstein allegedly abused dozens of minors 24 00:01:23,709 --> 00:01:26,295 at his homes in Manhattan and Palm Beach, Florida. 25 00:01:26,378 --> 00:01:29,172 ‐ He was completely obsessed with young girls 26 00:01:29,298 --> 00:01:31,216 and sex with them. 27 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:33,176 ‐ Prosecutors are now looking to properties 28 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:34,595 in New Mexico and the Caribbean. 29 00:01:34,678 --> 00:01:36,221 ‐ The charges detail Epstein's scheme 30 00:01:36,305 --> 00:01:38,807 to systematically create the vast network 31 00:01:38,890 --> 00:01:40,767 of underage girls to abuse. 32 00:01:40,851 --> 00:01:44,521 ‐ Jeffrey had a particularly elaborate seduction system. 33 00:01:44,646 --> 00:01:46,648 He had women around him 34 00:01:46,732 --> 00:01:51,445 that he trained to understand what he was looking for. 35 00:01:51,528 --> 00:01:54,406 ‐ He always had you introduce friends 36 00:01:54,531 --> 00:01:56,241 and the friends introduce more friends. 37 00:01:56,366 --> 00:01:57,909 ‐ There was times where I brought 38 00:01:58,035 --> 00:02:00,120 two and three girls in a day. 39 00:02:00,203 --> 00:02:02,372 ‐ The recruiters put themselves in places 40 00:02:02,497 --> 00:02:05,208 where they would find young, 41 00:02:05,334 --> 00:02:07,836 innocent potential victims 42 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:09,212 who were malleable. 43 00:02:09,338 --> 00:02:11,923 ‐ I call it a pyramid scheme, 44 00:02:12,007 --> 00:02:13,467 and the pyramid scheme started with 45 00:02:13,592 --> 00:02:16,386 Jeffrey and Ghislaine Maxwell. 46 00:02:16,511 --> 00:02:19,264 ‐ Ghislaine was fantastically charming. 47 00:02:19,348 --> 00:02:22,476 Her British accent and her connections 48 00:02:22,601 --> 00:02:25,937 served her well in recruiting young girls. 49 00:02:26,021 --> 00:02:28,899 ‐ I genuinely thought that she really did care about me, 50 00:02:28,982 --> 00:02:31,026 and so it was a giant blow to learn 51 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:33,320 that she was in on all of it. 52 00:02:33,403 --> 00:02:37,449 ‐ They knew exactly how to pull you in to trust them. 53 00:02:37,532 --> 00:02:39,993 I went from one person to the next 54 00:02:40,118 --> 00:02:42,579 just like a human baton being passed along. 55 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:46,541 ‐ He groomed me to be a personal sex slave 56 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:49,628 that brought him underage girls. 57 00:02:49,753 --> 00:02:51,505 ‐ What is it that you were told you would have to do? 58 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:55,801 ‐ By the time of the sexual assault, 59 00:02:55,884 --> 00:02:57,135 they were tricked. 60 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:59,137 ‐ I really didn't want to. 61 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:01,306 I don't know. 62 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:04,142 ‐ The more I kept trying to resist, 63 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:05,811 the more fun he was having. 64 00:03:05,936 --> 00:03:08,939 ‐ As soon as he reached for me, I was already frozen. 65 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:10,440 I was 14. 66 00:03:10,524 --> 00:03:12,859 I was never the same after that. 67 00:03:12,984 --> 00:03:14,277 ‐ Some breaking news right now. 68 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:16,154 Disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein 69 00:03:16,279 --> 00:03:18,949 has taken his own life while he was behind bars. 70 00:03:19,032 --> 00:03:22,411 ‐ I was just really angry at how this could have happened. 71 00:03:22,536 --> 00:03:25,205 ‐ This guy has never been held accountable 72 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:26,623 for anything he's done. 73 00:03:26,707 --> 00:03:29,668 ‐ He wins every [bleep] time. [sniffles] 74 00:03:29,793 --> 00:03:33,004 ‐ Any co‐conspirators should not rest easy. 75 00:03:33,130 --> 00:03:35,257 The victims deserve justice, 76 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:37,592 and they will get it. 77 00:03:37,676 --> 00:03:39,428 ‐ You kinda want to ask Ghislaine, 78 00:03:39,511 --> 00:03:41,680 "What the hell were you thinking?" 79 00:03:41,805 --> 00:03:43,640 ‐ These young women need to be believed. 80 00:03:43,765 --> 00:03:46,059 When they told their story to the police, 81 00:03:46,184 --> 00:03:47,477 nobody did anything about it. 82 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:48,812 Their voices didn't have value. 83 00:03:48,895 --> 00:03:50,355 That has to change. 84 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,151 ‐ I just gotta dig deep and take back my power 85 00:03:54,276 --> 00:03:56,361 'cause that's the only way I'm gonna heal. 86 00:03:56,445 --> 00:03:58,029 ‐ I'm not a young girl anymore. 87 00:03:58,155 --> 00:03:59,614 I'm gonna fight back. 88 00:03:59,698 --> 00:04:01,199 I'm just gonna keep on speaking the truth. 89 00:04:01,283 --> 00:04:02,784 ‐ We need to get to the bottom 90 00:04:02,868 --> 00:04:05,120 of everybody who was involved with that. 91 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:07,956 The truth has a funny way of showing its head 92 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,333 and I'm not stopping till it does. 93 00:04:10,459 --> 00:04:12,627 ‐ The FBI arrested Ghislaine Maxwell 94 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:15,630 around 8:30 this morning in Bedford, New Hampshire. 95 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:18,633 They say she helped the now‐dead millionaire 96 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:20,969 sex traffic young girls, abuse them, 97 00:04:21,011 --> 00:04:23,638 some as young as 14 years old. 98 00:04:23,722 --> 00:04:26,558 ‐ I mean, it's so dark. He's dead. 99 00:04:26,641 --> 00:04:28,477 He's mysterious. 100 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:32,606 People like myths. People don't like truth. 101 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:36,026 But the survivors have a story to tell. 102 00:04:36,151 --> 00:04:38,987 ♪ ♪ 103 00:04:39,029 --> 00:04:42,491 [slate clacking] 104 00:04:42,574 --> 00:04:49,456 ♪ ♪ 105 00:04:52,334 --> 00:04:53,502 ‐ It was, like, the summer of going 106 00:04:53,585 --> 00:04:55,545 from eighth to ninth grade. 107 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:58,256 I had braces on half of my teeth. 108 00:04:58,340 --> 00:05:01,384 I was, uh, young, 14, 109 00:05:01,510 --> 00:05:03,470 awkward little girl. 110 00:05:03,553 --> 00:05:05,222 ♪ ♪ 111 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:07,474 My friend told us about 112 00:05:07,557 --> 00:05:09,976 this really cool guy on Palm Beach Island 113 00:05:10,101 --> 00:05:11,978 who we could make $200 from. 114 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:13,897 He just wanted a massage. 115 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,024 $200 was huge to me, 116 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:17,442 and she kind of played it off like, 117 00:05:17,526 --> 00:05:19,486 "Oh, you know, it's really no big deal. 118 00:05:19,569 --> 00:05:22,322 This guy's super nice. He has a super nice house," 119 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:24,658 and then she ended up taking me. 120 00:05:24,741 --> 00:05:26,993 ♪ ♪ 121 00:05:27,118 --> 00:05:31,623 When you drive over the bridge to go on Palm Beach Island, 122 00:05:31,706 --> 00:05:34,084 you could just feel, like, the money and power. 123 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:35,168 ♪ ♪ 124 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:37,712 I was brought to his house. 125 00:05:37,838 --> 00:05:39,297 It's, like, the end of the street, 126 00:05:39,381 --> 00:05:41,591 the last house. 127 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:43,301 Everything's, like, super secluded 128 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:44,719 and super private. 129 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:46,346 [birds chirping] 130 00:05:46,429 --> 00:05:48,348 And it's a beautiful mansion, 131 00:05:48,473 --> 00:05:51,059 and we walk in, and there's the chef, 132 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:52,602 and, you know, his secretary, 133 00:05:52,686 --> 00:05:55,313 and these gorgeous women, barefoot models, 134 00:05:55,438 --> 00:05:57,899 and here I am 14, and I remember thinking, 135 00:05:58,024 --> 00:06:00,193 "Why do they want me?" 136 00:06:00,318 --> 00:06:03,530 ♪ ♪ 137 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:06,408 ‐ Please raise your right hand. 138 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:08,285 Do you swear from the testimony you're about to give 139 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:09,703 will be the truth, the whole truth, 140 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:10,871 and nothing but the truth? ‐ Yes, ma'am. 141 00:06:10,954 --> 00:06:12,330 ‐ Thank you. 142 00:06:13,748 --> 00:06:15,834 ‐ Can you give us your name? ‐ Jeffrey Epstein. 143 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:16,918 [tense music] 144 00:06:17,002 --> 00:06:18,461 ‐ Mr. Epstein, 145 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:21,381 how long have you been sexually attracted 146 00:06:21,506 --> 00:06:23,633 to underage minor females? 147 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:26,678 ♪ ♪ 148 00:06:26,803 --> 00:06:28,805 ‐ Are you kidding? 149 00:06:28,847 --> 00:06:31,057 ‐ On the multiple times that I saw him, 150 00:06:31,141 --> 00:06:33,643 he always appeared as though he felt 151 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:35,478 he was the smartest one in the room. 152 00:06:35,604 --> 00:06:37,230 ‐ I assert my fifth, sixth, 153 00:06:37,355 --> 00:06:39,149 and 14th amendment rights 154 00:06:39,274 --> 00:06:40,942 to the United States constitution. 155 00:06:41,026 --> 00:06:44,821 ‐ He had this smirk on him and carried himself like, 156 00:06:44,863 --> 00:06:46,948 "I am powerful. I am wealthy. 157 00:06:47,032 --> 00:06:49,993 Who are you to be questioning me?" 158 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:51,620 That was the air about him. 159 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:54,748 ♪ ♪ 160 00:06:54,873 --> 00:06:56,708 ‐ To really understand the psychology 161 00:06:56,833 --> 00:06:59,377 of what happened here, you have to understand 162 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:02,380 Jeffrey Epstein was a master manipulator. 163 00:07:02,464 --> 00:07:05,216 He used whatever it was that that young person needed 164 00:07:05,342 --> 00:07:06,885 in order to force them to do the things 165 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:08,178 he wanted them to do. 166 00:07:08,303 --> 00:07:12,557 ♪ ♪ 167 00:07:12,641 --> 00:07:14,935 ‐ Palm Beach is a very interesting place. 168 00:07:15,018 --> 00:07:19,564 You have a very wealthy segment of the population, 169 00:07:19,689 --> 00:07:22,150 one of the wealthiest in the United States, 170 00:07:22,275 --> 00:07:23,902 and by Palm Beach, 171 00:07:24,027 --> 00:07:25,820 what I'm talking about is the island, 172 00:07:25,862 --> 00:07:28,156 and the island is very different than the mainland. 173 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:30,533 ♪ ♪ 174 00:07:30,659 --> 00:07:33,119 So you go from millionaire and billionaire row 175 00:07:33,203 --> 00:07:36,081 on the island to then a little further west, 176 00:07:36,206 --> 00:07:39,960 which is more middle class, to then even further west, 177 00:07:40,085 --> 00:07:42,587 which is a much lower socioeconomic group 178 00:07:42,671 --> 00:07:44,589 living out in the western communities. 179 00:07:44,673 --> 00:07:47,300 This was the pool of young girls 180 00:07:47,425 --> 00:07:50,011 that he preyed upon the most. 181 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:52,305 If you approach a 14, 182 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,349 15‐year‐old private school girl 183 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:57,227 that has a Gucci handbag, 184 00:07:57,352 --> 00:07:59,062 and she hears about some old guy 185 00:07:59,187 --> 00:08:01,773 that wants a massage for a couple hundred dollars, 186 00:08:01,856 --> 00:08:03,483 they're not gonna respond to that. 187 00:08:03,566 --> 00:08:05,694 Take that same proposition 188 00:08:05,819 --> 00:08:08,154 to a young girl that's barely getting by. 189 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:10,615 That's a different proposition. 190 00:08:10,699 --> 00:08:13,410 The easiest prey is the weakest in the group, 191 00:08:13,535 --> 00:08:15,996 and that was his method. 192 00:08:16,121 --> 00:08:17,664 That was his modus operandi. 193 00:08:17,789 --> 00:08:22,335 ♪ ♪ 194 00:08:22,419 --> 00:08:25,463 ‐ I grew up in West Palm Beach, Florida. 195 00:08:25,588 --> 00:08:28,049 My mom was a single parent. She was also my hero. 196 00:08:28,174 --> 00:08:29,634 You know, she was my mom, my father. 197 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,136 She was everything. 198 00:08:31,219 --> 00:08:33,138 She was a superhero in my eyes, 199 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:35,724 but pretty much every time she got a new boyfriend 200 00:08:35,849 --> 00:08:39,144 or a new job, we would move, 201 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:40,895 and every time we moved, 202 00:08:40,979 --> 00:08:42,981 it meant that I was moving a different school, 203 00:08:43,106 --> 00:08:46,818 so I was constantly having to try to make friends. 204 00:08:46,860 --> 00:08:49,696 It was really, really hard a lot of the time. 205 00:08:49,821 --> 00:08:53,658 ♪ ♪ 206 00:08:53,742 --> 00:08:57,996 My mom had been doing drugs and drinking for a while, 207 00:08:58,079 --> 00:09:01,166 and she kind of fell off the deep end. 208 00:09:01,249 --> 00:09:02,959 I started rebelling more. 209 00:09:03,001 --> 00:09:05,336 I started acting out against her, 210 00:09:05,462 --> 00:09:08,089 and I knew she wasn't paying attention. 211 00:09:08,173 --> 00:09:09,966 Our whole lives changed then. 212 00:09:10,091 --> 00:09:13,636 ♪ ♪ 213 00:09:13,762 --> 00:09:15,430 ‐ When I was in middle school, 214 00:09:15,513 --> 00:09:16,681 in sixth, seventh, and eighth grade, 215 00:09:16,806 --> 00:09:18,558 I was a straight A student. 216 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:20,393 I was captain of the cheerleading squad. 217 00:09:20,518 --> 00:09:22,604 I played first chair trumpet. 218 00:09:22,687 --> 00:09:23,980 Once I hit teenager years 219 00:09:24,022 --> 00:09:27,233 is when my life kinda got rocky. 220 00:09:27,358 --> 00:09:29,569 My mother dealt with addiction, 221 00:09:29,652 --> 00:09:31,988 and we went from having a house, an apartment, 222 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:35,992 to basically living in hotels and stuff like that. 223 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:37,452 ♪ ♪ 224 00:09:37,535 --> 00:09:39,120 This is when 225 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:41,873 I went to Jeffrey's for the first time. 226 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:45,168 ♪ ♪ 227 00:09:45,251 --> 00:09:46,961 Me and my friend walk in, 228 00:09:47,045 --> 00:09:51,674 and you just feel elite walking into the room. 229 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,135 My friend brings me upstairs, 230 00:09:54,219 --> 00:09:56,346 and she's setting up the massage table 231 00:09:56,471 --> 00:09:58,139 and putting the towels, 232 00:09:58,223 --> 00:10:00,642 and then we sit and wait for him to come in. 233 00:10:00,725 --> 00:10:02,977 When Jeffrey comes in, 234 00:10:03,061 --> 00:10:06,189 he just kinda acted like, "Oh," you know, 235 00:10:06,314 --> 00:10:07,649 "Hey, hi. How are you?" 236 00:10:07,732 --> 00:10:09,317 And laid on the table 237 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,862 like he just knew what we were gonna do, you know? 238 00:10:12,987 --> 00:10:15,156 We gave him a massage for, like, 30 minutes, 239 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:18,618 and then he asked my friend to go downstairs. 240 00:10:18,701 --> 00:10:20,161 [door closes] 241 00:10:20,245 --> 00:10:23,039 It's like going over the railroad tracks. 242 00:10:23,123 --> 00:10:25,917 Like, your stomach‐‐ you know, that feeling, 243 00:10:25,959 --> 00:10:28,795 and you just know it's not right. 244 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,464 He called me over, asked me to, um, 245 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:34,092 take my bra and panties off, 246 00:10:34,175 --> 00:10:36,719 to get completely naked. 247 00:10:36,845 --> 00:10:38,763 All I could think of is I was just looking at the clock, 248 00:10:38,847 --> 00:10:40,390 like, "Okay, when is this gonna end? 249 00:10:40,515 --> 00:10:43,101 How long is this gonna take, and what is happening?" 250 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:45,019 ♪ ♪ 251 00:10:45,103 --> 00:10:48,648 It quickly transitions to him molesting me. 252 00:10:48,773 --> 00:10:50,567 I just went along with it because it's like, 253 00:10:50,692 --> 00:10:53,153 I'm just, uh, you know, a child. 254 00:10:53,194 --> 00:10:57,198 ♪ ♪ 255 00:10:57,282 --> 00:11:01,661 I remember walking down the staircase after. 256 00:11:01,786 --> 00:11:04,038 I'm given the $200, and I'm like, 257 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:07,667 so upset and disgusted and just feeling like, 258 00:11:07,792 --> 00:11:10,086 "I'll never come back here ever again." 259 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:12,922 ♪ ♪ 260 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:16,676 And then, you know, after a week went by, 261 00:11:16,801 --> 00:11:19,470 I just, like, downplayed the situation myself. 262 00:11:19,596 --> 00:11:22,098 It was like, you know, "Maybe it wasn't so bad, 263 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:25,059 and I could go back because I do need more money," 264 00:11:25,143 --> 00:11:27,812 and it was just, uh‐‐ it was just this sick cycle, 265 00:11:27,937 --> 00:11:30,023 and that's what happened, you know? 266 00:11:30,148 --> 00:11:31,024 [sniffles] 267 00:11:35,069 --> 00:11:36,654 [line trilling] 268 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:00,929 ♪ ♪ 269 00:12:12,815 --> 00:12:16,361 [tense music] 270 00:12:16,486 --> 00:12:19,405 ‐ I was working in the North Palm Beach area. 271 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:21,449 The case came to my firm originally 272 00:12:21,532 --> 00:12:24,953 from the first young girl that actually went to police. 273 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,705 ‐ The reason why I wanted to talk to you 274 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:29,749 is I am conducting an ongoing investigation. 275 00:12:29,832 --> 00:12:33,711 You're a witness, possibly a victim. 276 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:35,546 ‐ She had been enticed over there 277 00:12:35,672 --> 00:12:37,882 because it was quick, easy money 278 00:12:38,007 --> 00:12:41,302 to give this older man a massage. 279 00:12:41,427 --> 00:12:44,764 ♪ ♪ 280 00:12:44,847 --> 00:12:47,642 We start hearing these unbelievable stories 281 00:12:47,725 --> 00:12:50,812 of numbers and numbers of young girls 282 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:53,022 from her high school that had gone over there. 283 00:12:53,106 --> 00:12:54,565 ‐ You solemnly swear to tell the truth, 284 00:12:54,691 --> 00:12:55,608 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, 285 00:12:55,692 --> 00:12:56,985 so help you God? 286 00:13:00,655 --> 00:13:02,532 ‐ And initially we said, 287 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:05,660 "This is too gruesome and too awful 288 00:13:05,702 --> 00:13:07,996 to be even true‐‐ or close to the truth." 289 00:13:09,455 --> 00:13:10,498 ‐ Tell me from the beginning how you met this gentleman. 290 00:13:13,251 --> 00:13:15,461 ‐ What is it that you were told you would have to do? 291 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,342 ‐ At any point did he ask you to remove your clothes? 292 00:13:23,052 --> 00:13:24,387 ‐ Did he touch your breasts? 293 00:13:26,848 --> 00:13:28,725 ‐ Did he touch your vaginal area? 294 00:13:30,184 --> 00:13:31,352 ♪ ♪ 295 00:13:31,477 --> 00:13:32,854 ‐ And did you have intercourse with him? 296 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:37,108 ‐ Almost every single one of the young girls 297 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:39,193 were in high school, and most of them 298 00:13:39,277 --> 00:13:42,905 were under the age of 18, some as young as 14. 299 00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:50,830 ‐ All of these young girls were children, 300 00:13:50,955 --> 00:13:52,332 and a lot of them were afraid. 301 00:13:52,415 --> 00:13:54,167 ‐ Just take a deep breath. 302 00:13:55,501 --> 00:13:58,129 ‐ You're not the only person that he's done this to. 303 00:13:58,212 --> 00:13:59,380 ‐ Okay? 304 00:13:59,464 --> 00:14:01,674 I've talked to a lot of girls. ‐ Uh‐huh. 305 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:03,343 ‐ Almost 40 girls. 306 00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:05,595 ‐ As we learn more and more about the case 307 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:06,971 and the breadth of it, 308 00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:09,515 it goes from, "I can't believe this," 309 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,809 as an attorney, to, "Oh, my God. 310 00:14:11,934 --> 00:14:13,978 I can't believe this is actually happening." 311 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:18,483 ♪ ♪ 312 00:14:23,237 --> 00:14:26,157 [tense music] 313 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:33,081 ♪ ♪ 314 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:26,259 ♪ ♪ 315 00:15:26,342 --> 00:15:30,346 ‐ People ask why victims of Jeffrey Epstein 316 00:15:30,471 --> 00:15:33,474 went back to his house after the first assault. 317 00:15:33,558 --> 00:15:35,309 Jeffrey Epstein knew exactly what he was doing. 318 00:15:35,393 --> 00:15:39,397 He took the time to groom them and to figure out 319 00:15:39,522 --> 00:15:42,275 what about that particular individual 320 00:15:42,358 --> 00:15:45,319 he could exploit to fill a void 321 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:47,989 maybe that wasn't being filled elsewhere. 322 00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:50,533 ‐ I think I had a job at, like, Miami Subs, 323 00:15:50,658 --> 00:15:52,827 but, you know, I definitely didn't have any money. 324 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:54,328 ♪ ♪ 325 00:15:54,412 --> 00:15:57,039 I thought Jeffrey was my saving grace. 326 00:15:57,165 --> 00:16:00,543 He's just, you know, trying to help me out, really, 327 00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:02,962 and he's gonna pay me $200 for this massage, like, 328 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:05,673 so when he, you know, came in, 329 00:16:05,756 --> 00:16:07,508 I acted like I was comfortable 330 00:16:07,592 --> 00:16:09,469 and that I was okay with everything, 331 00:16:09,552 --> 00:16:12,972 and I'm not really sure why‐‐ how or why that happened. 332 00:16:13,014 --> 00:16:18,144 ‐ A perpetrator who has a propensity for children 333 00:16:18,269 --> 00:16:21,564 tends to understand that they won't get what they want 334 00:16:21,689 --> 00:16:23,149 from fear, 335 00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:25,318 so they tend to use seduction. 336 00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:28,779 The hook was money in exchange for a simple task‐‐ 337 00:16:28,863 --> 00:16:31,282 to do a massage. 338 00:16:31,365 --> 00:16:33,951 ‐ Preying on Courtney's financial vulnerability, 339 00:16:34,035 --> 00:16:37,288 Jeffrey Epstein made another offer, which was, 340 00:16:37,371 --> 00:16:39,749 "Any person that you bring to me 341 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:42,126 "that's of the same age as you, 342 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:45,129 I'll pay you a $200 finder's fee." 343 00:16:45,254 --> 00:16:48,132 And Courtney then began, when she was at school, 344 00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:49,675 when she was at social gatherings 345 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,844 with other 14, 15, 16 year olds, 346 00:16:51,928 --> 00:16:53,513 when she was at the mall, 347 00:16:53,638 --> 00:16:55,723 making the same offer that had been offered to her, 348 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:58,267 which led to Courtney probably bringing 349 00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:00,978 30 other minors to Jeffrey Epstein's house. 350 00:17:01,062 --> 00:17:02,897 ♪ ♪ 351 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:05,650 ‐ His type was basically very young, 352 00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:08,194 white teenagers. 353 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:10,988 Once I got comfortable with, like, approaching girls 354 00:17:11,072 --> 00:17:14,450 and kind of finessing them in a way to, like, say, 355 00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:17,036 "Oh, it's just a massage and you just have to do this," 356 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:19,455 and making it sound oh‐so‐good for them to go, 357 00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:22,375 there was times where I brought two and three girls 358 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:24,335 in a day. 359 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:29,966 He groomed me to be exactly what he wanted me to be: 360 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:32,802 a personal sex slave that 361 00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:36,556 brought him underage girls. 362 00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:39,475 You know, these are my friends that I brought. 363 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:43,646 ♪ ♪ 364 00:17:43,771 --> 00:17:46,399 ‐ It wasn't just the way that the girl looked. 365 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:49,986 It was the whole set up. It was the whole manipulation. 366 00:17:50,111 --> 00:17:53,155 It was the whole trickery, 367 00:17:53,239 --> 00:17:55,324 and he was manipulating 368 00:17:55,449 --> 00:17:58,411 vulnerable and alone individuals, 369 00:17:58,536 --> 00:18:02,498 girls that he knew wouldn't have any adult in their life 370 00:18:02,623 --> 00:18:04,625 who would stand up for them, either, 371 00:18:04,709 --> 00:18:07,545 and I think that is part of the deviance 372 00:18:07,628 --> 00:18:09,130 for Jeffrey Epstein. 373 00:18:09,213 --> 00:18:11,215 [dramatic music] 374 00:18:11,299 --> 00:18:12,967 ‐ When this was all happening 375 00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:15,094 and I went to Jeffrey Epstein's house, 376 00:18:15,177 --> 00:18:19,348 my mom was in jail or had just gotten out of jail. 377 00:18:19,432 --> 00:18:21,642 One of my friends had asked me if I wanted to come stay 378 00:18:21,726 --> 00:18:23,352 the weekend with her, and she's like, 379 00:18:23,477 --> 00:18:25,021 "I have this one girlfriend 380 00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:27,148 and we can go over there and hang out." 381 00:18:27,189 --> 00:18:30,568 It was in a trailer park in Palm Beach County. 382 00:18:30,693 --> 00:18:33,404 There was about four or five other girls 383 00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:38,284 just talking about stuff like teenage girls do, 384 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:42,580 and then someone started making jokes about Jeffrey. 385 00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:45,666 "He just likes young girls to give him a massage." 386 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:47,084 They're, like, giggling, 387 00:18:47,168 --> 00:18:49,337 and making fun pretty much of him 388 00:18:49,462 --> 00:18:51,797 and just how easy it was to make $200. 389 00:18:51,922 --> 00:18:53,507 ♪ ♪ 390 00:18:53,591 --> 00:18:57,053 The main girl dressed me and did my makeup 391 00:18:57,178 --> 00:18:59,597 and did my hair. 392 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,142 I felt kind of pretty because I was getting to wear her clothes 393 00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:06,103 and she was pretty, and she was‐‐ 394 00:19:06,187 --> 00:19:08,481 what seemed to be popular. 395 00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:10,274 She was giving me attention, 396 00:19:10,358 --> 00:19:12,860 which I really needed at that time. 397 00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:17,782 She seemed so comfortable with going like it's no big deal. 398 00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:19,200 I just thought, you know, 399 00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:20,660 it couldn't be too bad 400 00:19:20,743 --> 00:19:22,370 if these other people have done it. 401 00:19:22,453 --> 00:19:24,330 ♪ ♪ 402 00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:27,875 It was the first time that I had been on the island. 403 00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:31,128 I'd never really been in that type of money. 404 00:19:31,212 --> 00:19:34,173 We shopped at Walmart or Target. 405 00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:37,510 Just the boats alone as you're going over the bridge, 406 00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:39,804 it's straight out of the movies. 407 00:19:39,887 --> 00:19:41,430 You're like, 408 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:44,642 "Who the heck can ever afford something like this?" 409 00:19:48,771 --> 00:19:53,734 ‐ Mr. Epstein, is it true you were born January 20th, 1953? 410 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:56,320 ‐ Yes. ‐ Where? 411 00:19:56,404 --> 00:19:58,531 ‐ New York. ‐ Where in New York? 412 00:19:58,656 --> 00:19:59,990 ‐ Brooklyn. 413 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,576 ♪ ♪ 414 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:06,330 ‐ Jeffrey Epstein was a kid from a working class family. 415 00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:08,499 He grew up in Coney Island. 416 00:20:08,624 --> 00:20:11,711 His dad worked for the New York City Parks Department, 417 00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:14,463 and his parents instilled in him and his brother 418 00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:16,924 that education was the key to get on. 419 00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:18,801 ‐ Epstein is very gifted. 420 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:20,553 Skips two grades, 421 00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:23,472 graduates at the age of 16, and he gets accepted 422 00:20:23,597 --> 00:20:25,641 into a very difficult to get into college 423 00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:26,976 called Cooper Union. 424 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,811 ‐ What'd you study? 425 00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:30,479 ‐ Physics. 426 00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:32,982 ‐ And, uh, why did you leave college early? 427 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,152 ♪ ♪ 428 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:37,862 ‐ I intend to respond to all relevant questions 429 00:20:37,987 --> 00:20:39,321 regarding this lawsuit. 430 00:20:39,405 --> 00:20:40,990 ‐ He didn't actually finish his degree. 431 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,826 He dropped out, and then in 1974, 432 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:47,371 he somehow gets a job teaching at Dalton, 433 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:49,457 which is an exclusive school 434 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:51,167 on the upper east side of Manhattan, 435 00:20:51,292 --> 00:20:53,878 where very wealthy, very powerful people 436 00:20:54,003 --> 00:20:56,672 send their children. 437 00:20:56,797 --> 00:21:00,259 ‐ Jeffrey was part of the math department. 438 00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:02,011 He was young. 439 00:21:02,136 --> 00:21:04,388 About 20 years old. 440 00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:08,517 This is not your typical Dalton teacher. 441 00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:13,022 Usually, they did not sport wide lapels, 442 00:21:13,147 --> 00:21:15,649 gold chains, and open shirts, 443 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:18,527 exposing a certain amount of chest. 444 00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:22,573 Straight out of "Saturday Night Fever." 445 00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:25,409 He came from a different social class 446 00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:27,828 to a school that attracted 447 00:21:27,912 --> 00:21:31,248 a number of very, very affluent families. 448 00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:32,750 ‐ For Epstein, 449 00:21:32,875 --> 00:21:34,752 this was a really important first step 450 00:21:34,835 --> 00:21:38,464 on his ascendancy to the world in which he wanted to live. 451 00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:39,632 If he didn't have the money 452 00:21:39,715 --> 00:21:42,426 to be those kind of people just yet, 453 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:43,886 he was gonna rub shoulders with them. 454 00:21:44,011 --> 00:21:45,221 He was gonna make connections, 455 00:21:45,346 --> 00:21:47,306 and that's exactly what happened. 456 00:21:47,348 --> 00:21:50,976 ‐ It's very possible that he encountered a student 457 00:21:51,101 --> 00:21:53,979 who was related to the management 458 00:21:54,063 --> 00:21:58,818 at Bear Stearns that provided him with a stepping stone 459 00:21:58,901 --> 00:22:02,571 to his Wall Street career. 460 00:22:02,696 --> 00:22:05,366 ‐ After two years on the job, Epstein left. 461 00:22:05,491 --> 00:22:07,326 He claims that he wanted to go on to Wall Street, 462 00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:08,953 but there was also the suggestion that 463 00:22:09,036 --> 00:22:11,872 he was fired because his performance wasn't improving. 464 00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:15,626 You're seeing the first of many myth‐making moments 465 00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:19,296 where there's some dispute about how he exits somewhere. 466 00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:22,633 ‐ Jeffrey went to work for Ace Greenberg 467 00:22:22,716 --> 00:22:25,052 at Bear Stearns after Dalton. 468 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:26,846 ‐ Greenberg had this term 469 00:22:26,929 --> 00:22:29,765 for people he was looking for to work at Bear Stearns. 470 00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,225 PSDs‐‐ 471 00:22:31,308 --> 00:22:33,477 poor, smart, and desperate to succeed. 472 00:22:33,561 --> 00:22:36,146 Epstein very much fit that mold. 473 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:38,816 ‐ Epstein skyrockets there. 474 00:22:38,899 --> 00:22:40,776 He starts at 23. 475 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:44,363 In four years, he's a limited partner. 476 00:22:44,446 --> 00:22:45,865 1980, he's actually 477 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:48,784 a "Cosmopolitan" Bachelor of the Month. 478 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:50,661 He says that he only talks to people 479 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:52,162 if they make a million or more per year. 480 00:22:52,246 --> 00:22:53,664 [indistinct chatter] 481 00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:56,709 1981, there's a suspicious trade, 482 00:22:56,834 --> 00:22:59,545 which later became an insider trading case, 483 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:03,507 and Epstein resigns not long after the trade. 484 00:23:03,632 --> 00:23:05,301 ♪ ♪ 485 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:08,053 ‐ Again, there's some dispute over what actually happened. 486 00:23:08,137 --> 00:23:09,638 Epstein says he wanted to leave 487 00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:11,307 and start his own company. 488 00:23:11,432 --> 00:23:13,183 As with Dalton, 489 00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:14,894 there's sort of two pictures that emerge‐‐ 490 00:23:14,977 --> 00:23:17,563 Epstein's story and then the official story, 491 00:23:17,688 --> 00:23:19,648 which perhaps paints a different picture. 492 00:23:19,773 --> 00:23:22,651 ‐ When Jeffrey Epstein met me, 493 00:23:22,776 --> 00:23:25,195 it was 1987. 494 00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:28,532 I was the CEO of a company that did 495 00:23:28,616 --> 00:23:31,869 a billion and a half dollars a year on collections. 496 00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:33,287 [car horns honking] 497 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:36,248 It was Epstein that had the vision 498 00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:40,336 to make it a major Ponzi company. 499 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:43,547 He was open and transparent in telling me 500 00:23:43,672 --> 00:23:46,550 that he had no moral compass. 501 00:23:46,675 --> 00:23:48,594 ‐ Steven Hoffenberg ran a company 502 00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:50,304 called Towers Financial. 503 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:51,972 Legitimate business, 504 00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:55,017 but you can get rich a lot quicker doing a Ponzi scheme, 505 00:23:55,142 --> 00:23:57,311 assuming you don't get caught. 506 00:23:57,394 --> 00:23:59,688 But it got caught. 507 00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:03,567 Only one person takes the fall for the Towers scheme. 508 00:24:03,651 --> 00:24:08,906 ‐ I spent 18 years in federal prison. 509 00:24:09,031 --> 00:24:10,908 ‐ Even though according to Hoffenberg, 510 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:13,994 Epstein was at the absolute center of this operation, 511 00:24:14,078 --> 00:24:16,497 he wasn't prosecuted. 512 00:24:16,538 --> 00:24:20,292 ‐ Jeffrey Epstein created an entire method 513 00:24:20,334 --> 00:24:24,088 of how he would seduce people. 514 00:24:24,171 --> 00:24:26,799 A true seductive person 515 00:24:26,924 --> 00:24:30,177 has the ability to understand what you're thinking, 516 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:33,138 and Jeffrey Epstein was a king‐‐ 517 00:24:33,222 --> 00:24:36,850 a master of seduction. 518 00:24:36,934 --> 00:24:42,523 He felt he had protection from the rule of law. 519 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:46,151 He was not concerned. 520 00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:48,570 ♪ ♪ 521 00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:54,118 [soft dramatic music] 522 00:24:58,122 --> 00:24:59,206 ♪ ♪ 523 00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:11,135 ‐ His behavior really was sociopathic‐‐ 524 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:14,138 manipulativeness, superficial charm, 525 00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:16,557 uh, lack of anxiety, 526 00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:19,768 and predominantly, lack of empathy. 527 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:23,022 He made a choice to act on these sexual impulses 528 00:25:23,147 --> 00:25:24,481 in the way he did, 529 00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:26,483 and he made a choice 530 00:25:26,567 --> 00:25:29,862 to exploit vulnerable individuals. 531 00:25:29,987 --> 00:25:31,739 ‐ I definitely looked the youngest 532 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:33,657 out of a lot of my friends. 533 00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:37,036 They would joke around and say that I was Virgin Mary. 534 00:25:37,161 --> 00:25:39,371 I was scared to do any of that stuff, like, 535 00:25:39,496 --> 00:25:42,166 to have sex or anything, so, um‐‐ 536 00:25:42,249 --> 00:25:44,835 and embarrassed of my body, too. 537 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,131 ‐ The fact that he viewed them as untouched, 538 00:25:49,256 --> 00:25:52,968 unsullied virginal was a big part of it for him. 539 00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:55,179 That's why he's going to a middle school 540 00:25:55,304 --> 00:25:57,431 or a high school. 541 00:25:57,514 --> 00:26:00,976 [somber music] 542 00:26:01,101 --> 00:26:02,311 ‐ I was nervous. 543 00:26:02,436 --> 00:26:03,979 Once I entered the house, 544 00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:06,023 the nerves were there. 545 00:26:06,148 --> 00:26:07,691 The girl that had brought us there 546 00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:09,651 took me right upstairs. 547 00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:11,653 She said that he was gonna come in in a few minutes, 548 00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:15,824 uh, and kinda left me. 549 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,326 The biggest thing that I remember 550 00:26:17,451 --> 00:26:20,496 is his, like, smirk smile. 551 00:26:20,621 --> 00:26:23,832 The way that his mouth cuts into the sides 552 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:27,795 reminded me very much so of, like, a clown smile. 553 00:26:27,878 --> 00:26:30,798 He laid belly down on the table. 554 00:26:30,881 --> 00:26:35,219 He asked me to get undressed and just stand in my underwear. 555 00:26:35,344 --> 00:26:38,263 He was just very adamant, almost like a parent. 556 00:26:38,347 --> 00:26:39,473 Like, "Pick up your shoes." 557 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:40,641 Like, you know they mean business. 558 00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:41,809 They're not gonna get loud. 559 00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:43,102 They're not gonna tell you again. 560 00:26:43,185 --> 00:26:44,561 You're just gonna do it. 561 00:26:44,686 --> 00:26:46,313 It made me feel very uncomfortable, 562 00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:47,898 but I did as I was told. 563 00:26:48,023 --> 00:26:52,069 He was‐‐he was the adult, and I was a child. 564 00:26:52,194 --> 00:26:55,155 As soon as he reached for me, I was already frozen. 565 00:26:55,239 --> 00:26:56,740 ♪ ♪ 566 00:26:56,865 --> 00:26:59,827 Almost numb to what was going on. 567 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:04,206 Like, a frozen state of shock. 568 00:27:04,331 --> 00:27:06,333 And he kept touching around my underwear 569 00:27:06,416 --> 00:27:08,794 and under my underwear 570 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:11,964 and I finally told him to stop. 571 00:27:12,089 --> 00:27:14,591 He told me, "I'll stop if you just take your underwear off 572 00:27:14,675 --> 00:27:16,552 so I can look." 573 00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:19,638 ‐ He started with asking for a massage 574 00:27:19,763 --> 00:27:21,682 and then he asked for a massage 575 00:27:21,807 --> 00:27:24,434 with a girl in her bra and panties, 576 00:27:24,518 --> 00:27:26,395 and then he progressed from there. 577 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,731 Inoculating a victim 578 00:27:29,857 --> 00:27:32,484 is part of the process of grooming them. 579 00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:36,155 Once somebody has participated, 580 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,659 they almost universally feel like used goods. 581 00:27:40,784 --> 00:27:43,245 They feel damaged. They feel dirty. 582 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:46,915 They feel worthless. 583 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,625 ‐ He had told me that I looked so pure 584 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:50,502 while he was touching me. 585 00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:52,337 It felt weird for him to call me that 586 00:27:52,462 --> 00:27:54,631 as he was touching me. 587 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,675 I was afraid. 588 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,345 I was very afraid of what was gonna happen. 589 00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:02,181 He definitely had the control. 590 00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:03,599 I was in his house. 591 00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:05,517 ♪ ♪ 592 00:28:05,642 --> 00:28:08,312 He took his towel, 593 00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:10,647 wiped himself off, got up off the table, 594 00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:12,983 and walked out of the room. 595 00:28:13,108 --> 00:28:16,486 Once we walked out of the door to go get into the cab, 596 00:28:16,570 --> 00:28:19,948 I was instantly in tears. 597 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:21,950 My friends didn't say anything to me, 598 00:28:22,034 --> 00:28:24,369 and the other girl told me to shut the [bleep] up 599 00:28:24,494 --> 00:28:26,496 and threw $200 at me. 600 00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:28,457 ♪ ♪ 601 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:33,420 ‐ He took girls who already had problems with self‐esteem. 602 00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:35,297 They go along with it. 603 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:38,425 They feel even worse about themselves, 604 00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:39,968 and that perpetuates it. 605 00:28:40,052 --> 00:28:43,222 "I am worthless. I am dirty. 606 00:28:43,347 --> 00:28:45,224 "Why should I bother to treat myself 607 00:28:45,349 --> 00:28:47,309 "any better than he's treating me? 608 00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:50,812 Because, yeah, this confirms what I feel about myself." 609 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:53,857 ‐ One sexual assault can completely change 610 00:28:53,941 --> 00:28:59,154 the quality of life for the victim for years. 611 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,490 They push that reality as far away 612 00:29:01,615 --> 00:29:03,492 from their conscious mind as they can. 613 00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:05,244 They use drugs. They use alcohol. 614 00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:08,372 They may use sex so that they don't think about it, 615 00:29:08,497 --> 00:29:09,998 so that they don't feel it. 616 00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:12,292 ♪ ♪ 617 00:29:12,376 --> 00:29:13,710 ‐ When high school started, 618 00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:15,837 I was going to school and skipping 619 00:29:15,963 --> 00:29:19,007 and getting picked up by truancy. 620 00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:21,426 I'm probably about 16 years old about this time. 621 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:25,180 This is when I start, like, dabbling with drugs. 622 00:29:25,305 --> 00:29:27,099 Any time before I go to Jeffrey's house, 623 00:29:27,182 --> 00:29:30,811 I take Xanax to, you know, calm down 624 00:29:30,936 --> 00:29:33,689 and not have to feel anything. 625 00:29:33,814 --> 00:29:35,941 I end up dropping out of school 626 00:29:36,024 --> 00:29:39,152 and it just, like‐‐my life just spirals downhill. 627 00:29:39,236 --> 00:29:41,488 ♪ ♪ 628 00:29:41,571 --> 00:29:43,782 ‐ Before I got to him, 629 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:46,743 I was starting to go through a rebellious stage. 630 00:29:46,868 --> 00:29:48,328 Typical teen stuff, 631 00:29:48,412 --> 00:29:51,748 but after the whole situation with him, 632 00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:54,584 with how the girl that brought us there treated me, 633 00:29:54,668 --> 00:29:56,003 I was different. 634 00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:58,630 I was angry at myself about this‐‐ 635 00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:00,090 putting myself in that position. 636 00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:02,968 How stupid could I have been? 637 00:30:03,093 --> 00:30:05,971 I started spiraling a little bit more 638 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:08,640 and definitely being more promiscuous. 639 00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:10,100 It felt like, you know, 640 00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:12,060 someone had already tooken something from me 641 00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,479 that maybe I could have more control over 642 00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:17,149 if I was making the calls, 643 00:30:17,274 --> 00:30:21,653 and when you think that way, you really don't have control. 644 00:30:21,778 --> 00:30:26,533 You're making hasty decisions because you're hurting so bad. 645 00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:28,327 I was never the same after that. 646 00:30:28,368 --> 00:30:32,789 ♪ ♪ 647 00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:39,921 [soft dramatic music] 648 00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:41,882 ‐ The '90s and the 2000s 649 00:30:42,007 --> 00:30:44,468 are the glory days for Jeffrey Epstein. 650 00:30:44,593 --> 00:30:48,013 It's when he becomes what he really wanted to be, 651 00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:51,224 which is a member of the billionaire class. 652 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:52,934 He was still rough around the edges. 653 00:30:53,018 --> 00:30:54,519 You know, he was still this kid from Brooklyn. 654 00:30:54,644 --> 00:30:56,772 He still had his Brooklyn accent. 655 00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:58,398 ‐ He was ascending, 656 00:30:58,482 --> 00:31:02,402 but there was still society in New York. 657 00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:04,821 You had to know how to behave, 658 00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:06,615 and you had to know how to know people, 659 00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:08,158 and, you know, there was a club, 660 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:10,827 and Jeffrey was interested in being in that club. 661 00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:13,080 It's sort of like "The Talented Mr. Ripley." 662 00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,499 He was appropriating an identity, 663 00:31:15,624 --> 00:31:17,042 trying it out. 664 00:31:17,167 --> 00:31:19,252 ‐ I was surprised to find myself 665 00:31:19,336 --> 00:31:21,630 in Jeffrey Epstein's little black book, 666 00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:24,883 but nearly everyone in that book it seems 667 00:31:25,008 --> 00:31:27,344 was a great friend of Ghislaine. 668 00:31:27,469 --> 00:31:29,930 ‐ Ghislaine Maxwell is a British socialite, 669 00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:31,348 and she was basically born 670 00:31:31,473 --> 00:31:33,850 with a silver spoon in her mouth. 671 00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,812 ‐ The first time I met Ghislaine was in 1999. 672 00:31:36,937 --> 00:31:38,688 We met through a bunch of mutual friends 673 00:31:38,814 --> 00:31:40,440 who'd been at Oxford with her. 674 00:31:40,524 --> 00:31:42,234 I wrote afterwards, 675 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,277 "She's full of wicked good fun." 676 00:31:44,361 --> 00:31:45,821 ‐ I'd like to know how many of you 677 00:31:45,862 --> 00:31:48,365 would like to fly on a plane 678 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:52,828 if only 15% of planes were talking to air traffic control. 679 00:31:52,953 --> 00:31:54,704 Anyone? 680 00:31:54,788 --> 00:31:58,166 ‐ She was highly intelligent, and spending time with her, 681 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,460 you're so completely aware of how well‐connected she is. 682 00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:03,964 ‐ She is the youngest daughter of Robert Maxwell, 683 00:32:04,089 --> 00:32:06,800 who was a British newspaper tycoon. 684 00:32:06,883 --> 00:32:09,302 Ghislaine was doted on by her father 685 00:32:09,386 --> 00:32:11,721 and he named his yacht Lady Ghislaine after her, 686 00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:14,641 but in 1991, 687 00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:17,394 Robert Maxwell, sailing around the Canary Islands, 688 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,563 died in mysterious circumstances. 689 00:32:19,688 --> 00:32:21,231 ‐ When he died, 690 00:32:21,356 --> 00:32:22,858 we learned that he'd been stealing 691 00:32:22,983 --> 00:32:25,694 from the pension funds of his workers. 692 00:32:25,819 --> 00:32:27,696 ‐ Hundreds of working class people 693 00:32:27,821 --> 00:32:29,197 lose their retirement income 694 00:32:29,322 --> 00:32:32,284 because of Maxwell's financial fraud. 695 00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:34,494 ‐ Suddenly, all the money had vanished. 696 00:32:34,536 --> 00:32:36,997 ‐ Her family were plagued by scandal. 697 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:39,666 They were hated in the UK, 698 00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,836 so under this huge cloud, Ghislaine moves to America. 699 00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:46,006 ♪ ♪ 700 00:32:46,131 --> 00:32:47,924 ‐ Lots of people are still trying to figure out 701 00:32:48,008 --> 00:32:49,509 how Ghislaine and Jeffrey met. 702 00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:53,263 I wish I knew, but it just seemed like 703 00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:56,099 Jeffrey had very quickly taken the place of her father. 704 00:32:56,183 --> 00:32:59,478 ‐ At the time, Epstein was on the rise. 705 00:32:59,603 --> 00:33:01,813 Ghislaine's kind of on the way down 706 00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:03,273 and they meet in the middle. 707 00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:05,066 Both of them had something 708 00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:06,693 that the other one desperately needed. 709 00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:08,111 ♪ ♪ 710 00:33:08,195 --> 00:33:09,362 ‐ He was her boyfriend, 711 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,115 but she was also his gal Friday. 712 00:33:12,199 --> 00:33:14,534 She leapt to the occasion when there was anything 713 00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:17,537 that he needed that she could provide, 714 00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:21,625 and she hugely expanded Jeffrey's social universe. 715 00:33:21,708 --> 00:33:25,462 ‐ She opened doors for him to people like the Clintons, 716 00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:26,963 to Prince Andrew. 717 00:33:27,047 --> 00:33:28,465 You know, she introduced him to high society. 718 00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:30,008 He was starting to get the money, 719 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:30,967 but he didn't have the finesse, 720 00:33:31,092 --> 00:33:32,135 the class, 721 00:33:32,219 --> 00:33:34,846 and that's what Ghislaine gave him. 722 00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:36,473 ‐ You would agree, would you not, 723 00:33:36,556 --> 00:33:40,477 that Ghislaine Maxwell shares your sexual obsession 724 00:33:40,602 --> 00:33:42,187 for underage minor females? 725 00:33:42,312 --> 00:33:44,397 ‐ Argumentative. Speculation. 726 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:47,275 ‐ Ghislaine Maxwell was intricately 727 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,069 involved with Jeffrey Epstein. 728 00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:52,489 The two of them created this world that allowed 729 00:33:52,614 --> 00:33:56,368 Jeffrey Epstein to abuse so many young women. 730 00:33:56,451 --> 00:34:00,830 ♪ ♪ 731 00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:02,832 ‐ Mar‐a‐Lago spa is Donald Trump's place 732 00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:03,959 in Palm Beach. 733 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,253 It's just gorgeous. 734 00:34:06,336 --> 00:34:08,421 I'd only been at my job with Mar‐a‐Lago 735 00:34:08,505 --> 00:34:10,882 for a couple weeks, but it didn't take me that long 736 00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:12,968 to realize, like, this is where I wanna be. 737 00:34:13,093 --> 00:34:14,469 This is what I wanna do. 738 00:34:14,553 --> 00:34:16,888 ♪ ♪ 739 00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:18,807 My duties there were in the spa area, 740 00:34:18,932 --> 00:34:20,642 so I would hand out fresh towels. 741 00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:24,187 I loved working, just, with these, you know, 742 00:34:24,271 --> 00:34:26,147 beautiful massage therapists and they'd come 743 00:34:26,273 --> 00:34:28,567 and talk to me all the time and I was really interested. 744 00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:29,901 So I went to a library. 745 00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:31,987 I rented a book on massage therapy. 746 00:34:32,112 --> 00:34:34,155 ♪ ♪ 747 00:34:34,281 --> 00:34:37,534 Ghislaine Maxwell approached me at the spa area. 748 00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:40,704 She was, like, this really bright, 749 00:34:40,829 --> 00:34:44,207 Mary Poppins kind of a‐‐ a figure and she said, 750 00:34:44,291 --> 00:34:47,252 "Oh, you're reading a book on massage therapy," 751 00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:49,879 and, you know, we started talking. 752 00:34:49,963 --> 00:34:51,673 And she goes, "Oh, you know what? 753 00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:52,882 "I know this guy. 754 00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:54,426 "There's an opportunity, actually. 755 00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:56,886 "If you wanna become a real massage therapist, 756 00:34:57,012 --> 00:34:59,055 "we can get you trained. 757 00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,266 "You can come for the interview tonight, 758 00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:04,811 "and if he likes you, then you'll be a real masseuse. 759 00:35:04,894 --> 00:35:06,438 "And you'll get to see the world. 760 00:35:06,521 --> 00:35:08,898 And you'll get paid $200 per massage," 761 00:35:09,024 --> 00:35:11,026 and it‐‐like, no alarm bells went off 762 00:35:11,151 --> 00:35:13,695 because it was this proper English lady 763 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,363 who just looked so nice. 764 00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:17,282 And when I asked her why, and she said, 765 00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:18,867 "Oh, we're like philanthropists. 766 00:35:18,992 --> 00:35:20,410 "We like to go out and help people 767 00:35:20,535 --> 00:35:23,204 and make people's lives better." 768 00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:24,998 ‐ Epstein's victims have talked about 769 00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:27,334 how they weren't sure who this guy was, 770 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:30,128 but because Ghislaine seemed so proper, 771 00:35:30,253 --> 00:35:32,213 surely it's gotta be legit. 772 00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:34,883 Her posh upbringing and her accent 773 00:35:35,008 --> 00:35:37,052 gave this veneer of respectability. 774 00:35:37,177 --> 00:35:38,345 Coming from a woman, 775 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:41,348 I think that was incredibly manipulative, 776 00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:43,850 and I think it was absolutely critical 777 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:45,352 in Epstein's operation. 778 00:35:51,191 --> 00:35:53,652 ‐ Jeffrey wasn't my first abuser. 779 00:35:53,735 --> 00:35:55,945 At seven, when I started getting abused 780 00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:58,114 by a family member, 781 00:35:58,198 --> 00:36:01,368 my childhood was quickly stolen from me. 782 00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:03,370 I just started kind of imploding. 783 00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:05,664 I would, you know, run away. 784 00:36:05,747 --> 00:36:08,500 I would be on the streets for days at a time. 785 00:36:08,583 --> 00:36:12,128 So I was pretty vulnerable by the time I get to Mar‐a‐Lago. 786 00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:14,506 ‐ When you are sexually assaulted as a child, 787 00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:17,634 you are not learning about yourself 788 00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:19,552 and your own agency 789 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:21,304 and what you do when you find yourself 790 00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:23,473 in uncomfortable circumstances. 791 00:36:23,598 --> 00:36:26,434 And you don't know the appropriate roles 792 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:29,521 between different individuals because everything is twisted. 793 00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:35,068 Jeffrey Epstein knew how to manipulate those 794 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:37,987 who were especially vulnerable. 795 00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:40,240 ♪ ♪ 796 00:36:40,365 --> 00:36:42,242 ‐ It was probably a five‐minute drive 797 00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:44,911 from Mar‐a‐Lago to El Brillo Way. 798 00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:46,705 My dad brought me over. 799 00:36:46,830 --> 00:36:48,581 When he shakes hands with Ghislaine, 800 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:50,375 she promises that she'll take good care of me 801 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:52,794 and she will have someone drive me home. 802 00:36:52,919 --> 00:36:56,840 ♪ ♪ 803 00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:59,050 She led me up the staircase 804 00:36:59,134 --> 00:37:04,681 and we made a right into Jeffrey's room. 805 00:37:04,806 --> 00:37:07,475 And then you go curve around, see his bathroom... 806 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,602 ♪ ♪ 807 00:37:09,686 --> 00:37:13,732 And Jeffrey laying naked on the massage table. 808 00:37:13,857 --> 00:37:16,693 Jeffrey lifts his head up, looks at Ghislaine, 809 00:37:16,818 --> 00:37:18,153 Ghislaine looks at him, 810 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,447 and I call it the Cheshire Cat grin 811 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,532 because his face just went like this, 812 00:37:22,657 --> 00:37:25,243 and it was like a nod of approval. 813 00:37:25,368 --> 00:37:27,036 Ghislaine got me quickly into, like, 814 00:37:27,162 --> 00:37:28,580 "Here's the lotions. Here's the oils. 815 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:30,707 "We're gonna each take half of his body 816 00:37:30,832 --> 00:37:32,751 so you can follow my instructions." 817 00:37:32,876 --> 00:37:35,795 It just looked like a legitimate massage. 818 00:37:35,879 --> 00:37:39,632 Then they also started asking me questions about my life. 819 00:37:39,716 --> 00:37:41,968 I really, really wanted this job, 820 00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:44,679 so I opened up to them. 821 00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,306 I said, "Look, 822 00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:48,349 "this is an opportunity of a lifetime for me. 823 00:37:48,475 --> 00:37:52,395 I've been on the streets. I've been abused." 824 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,105 And, um, 825 00:37:54,189 --> 00:37:56,232 that's the worst thing that I could've done 826 00:37:56,357 --> 00:37:59,027 'cause I just let them know that I'm vulnerable, 827 00:37:59,152 --> 00:38:02,655 and, um, I'm their perfect type. 828 00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:08,286 ♪ ♪ 829 00:38:22,592 --> 00:38:26,429 [soft dramatic music] 830 00:38:26,513 --> 00:38:28,807 ‐ Whenever Ghislaine spoke about Jeffrey, 831 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:31,810 there was a kind of flash of excitement in her eyes. 832 00:38:31,893 --> 00:38:35,313 She seemed utterly fascinated and thrilled 833 00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:38,107 with the life that he offered her, 834 00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:42,487 and it seemed like she would go to any kind of length 835 00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:45,573 to satisfy his whims. 836 00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:47,283 She'd been dating him for a little while 837 00:38:47,367 --> 00:38:50,954 when she asked me to write a song for his birthday. 838 00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:52,413 I barely knew him, 839 00:38:52,539 --> 00:38:54,249 but Ghislaine was very specific 840 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,125 about certain phrases and information 841 00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:58,044 that had to be in the song. 842 00:38:58,127 --> 00:38:59,963 Jeffrey was turning 40, 843 00:39:00,088 --> 00:39:02,799 so I figured it would be a big party. 844 00:39:02,924 --> 00:39:06,845 Turned out there were only six guys wearing black tie. 845 00:39:06,928 --> 00:39:10,807 Les Wexner was the dean of the Harvard Business School 846 00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:14,477 and Itzhak Perlman the violinist was there, 847 00:39:14,561 --> 00:39:18,648 smoking cigars and drinking brandy after dinner. 848 00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:20,358 It felt like kind of a convention 849 00:39:20,483 --> 00:39:23,152 of masters of the universe. 850 00:39:23,278 --> 00:39:25,363 She asked me to knock on the door 851 00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:27,866 at the appointed hour, walk in, 852 00:39:27,991 --> 00:39:32,328 sit on the floor, and perform the song. 853 00:39:32,412 --> 00:39:35,373 "Poor Jeffrey Epstein is 40. Oy vey. 854 00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:38,418 "Life must be tough. His hair is already so gray. 855 00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:40,461 "He sure looks older, but it's clear from his smile 856 00:39:40,587 --> 00:39:42,881 "the older he gets, the more juvenile. 857 00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:46,050 "Ghislaine is lavishing him with her affections. 858 00:39:46,175 --> 00:39:48,636 "She claims he has 24‐hour erections. 859 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,847 "Sounds like he's busy. Now, ain't that berserk? 860 00:39:50,972 --> 00:39:53,474 How does he find the time to get off to work?" 861 00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:55,351 [clicks tongue] God, I feel so‐‐ 862 00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:57,896 it seems so creepy reading it now, I'm afraid. 863 00:39:58,021 --> 00:39:59,480 Um... 864 00:39:59,606 --> 00:40:02,066 "He wakes when the cock crows while everyone slumbers. 865 00:40:02,191 --> 00:40:04,903 "He rivals Einstein when crunching those numbers. 866 00:40:04,986 --> 00:40:06,279 "Taught math at Dalton. 867 00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:08,448 "The naughty boy blushes to think of school girls 868 00:40:08,531 --> 00:40:10,909 and all of their crushes." 869 00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:12,869 You know, kind of snickers in the room, 870 00:40:12,994 --> 00:40:14,662 and it seemed like that was something 871 00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:16,956 that was known about him at the time, 872 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,709 that he liked younger girls. 873 00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:21,336 ♪ ♪ 874 00:40:21,461 --> 00:40:23,963 It's that odd thing of something that seems 875 00:40:24,005 --> 00:40:26,633 tongue in cheek, but that you have no real sense 876 00:40:26,716 --> 00:40:32,639 of how utterly depraved his intentions were. 877 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:41,189 ‐ I was told by Jeffrey and Ghislaine 878 00:40:41,314 --> 00:40:44,943 during my very first so‐called interview with them 879 00:40:45,026 --> 00:40:47,236 that they had homes all over the world. 880 00:40:47,362 --> 00:40:49,364 New Mexico, New York, 881 00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:51,324 they were getting one in France, 882 00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:52,951 and the Virgin Islands. 883 00:40:53,034 --> 00:40:55,995 So you're instantly aware that these were 884 00:40:56,037 --> 00:40:58,748 rich and powerfully persuasive people, 885 00:40:58,873 --> 00:41:01,542 and so, the fear of that's like, 886 00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:03,378 "What happens if I do say no?" 887 00:41:03,503 --> 00:41:05,672 [dramatic music] 888 00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:08,132 The massage seemed legitimate at first. 889 00:41:08,174 --> 00:41:10,718 Ghislaine grabbed one foot, I grabbed the other, 890 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,971 and she says, "You always wanna keep one hand 891 00:41:13,054 --> 00:41:15,765 on the body when you're massaging somebody," 892 00:41:15,848 --> 00:41:19,435 and then he turns over and the entire thing changed. 893 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,145 ♪ ♪ 894 00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:22,855 They said, "Take off your clothes." 895 00:41:22,981 --> 00:41:25,692 I had these little girl undies on, 896 00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:27,735 like, little hearts on them, I remember, 897 00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:30,613 and they were laughing at that because they liked that. 898 00:41:30,697 --> 00:41:32,699 The younger you look, the better it is. 899 00:41:32,824 --> 00:41:35,493 So I‐‐I stripped down. Ghislaine stripped down. 900 00:41:35,576 --> 00:41:37,996 It turned in‐‐ it turned very sexual. 901 00:41:38,121 --> 00:41:43,001 Um, it was abuse right away from both of them. 902 00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:45,920 ♪ ♪ 903 00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:49,298 Stuff that I knew had‐‐ that I had already known, um, 904 00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:52,176 because I'd been abused before, and it felt just like that. 905 00:41:52,301 --> 00:41:54,470 ♪ ♪ 906 00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:56,723 My new happy brain just shut off, 907 00:41:56,848 --> 00:42:00,393 and this old survival brain came back in. 908 00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:02,311 It's a completely different person, 909 00:42:02,437 --> 00:42:03,896 the person that takes over. 910 00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:06,315 You know, very scared of saying the wrong thing, 911 00:42:06,441 --> 00:42:07,650 doing the wrong thing, 912 00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:10,278 and you do disassociate yourself 913 00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:13,698 from who you know you are, 914 00:42:13,823 --> 00:42:15,950 but who you have to be. 915 00:42:16,034 --> 00:42:18,077 ♪ ♪ 916 00:42:19,871 --> 00:42:21,581 Afterwards, Ghislaine left the room 917 00:42:21,664 --> 00:42:24,000 and Jeffrey was telling me I did a good job, 918 00:42:24,083 --> 00:42:27,003 and I'm gonna go really far, and he's gonna get me educated, 919 00:42:27,128 --> 00:42:29,338 and he was, like, really, really happy. 920 00:42:29,464 --> 00:42:30,965 I mean, the cat that got the milk. 921 00:42:31,049 --> 00:42:32,550 [dramatic music] 922 00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:37,180 I got paid $200, and the butler drove me home. 923 00:42:37,305 --> 00:42:39,515 ‐ They acted very normal about the situation. 924 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,517 They tried to validate what had happened. 925 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:43,436 From the outside perspective, 926 00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:44,812 you understand the grooming involved 927 00:42:44,854 --> 00:42:46,522 and what transpired in that room‐‐ 928 00:42:46,647 --> 00:42:48,316 paying her heftily 929 00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:49,984 for the work that had been done, 930 00:42:50,026 --> 00:42:51,652 making it seem like it was appropriate, 931 00:42:51,778 --> 00:42:53,446 what had transpired, 932 00:42:53,529 --> 00:42:56,491 and then inviting her back again. 933 00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,242 ‐ The shame was immediate. 934 00:42:58,326 --> 00:43:00,453 I remember sitting at the bottom of my shower 935 00:43:00,536 --> 00:43:03,081 and crying my eyes out. 936 00:43:03,206 --> 00:43:05,249 I'd been on the streets and I thought, you know, 937 00:43:05,333 --> 00:43:08,961 "Well, maybe this is the lesser of two evils." 938 00:43:09,045 --> 00:43:11,255 I had the promise of an education, 939 00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:14,383 and maybe this is just how the world works. 940 00:43:14,509 --> 00:43:16,511 If abuse is so prevalent in my life, 941 00:43:16,636 --> 00:43:18,137 maybe that's just what it is. 942 00:43:18,221 --> 00:43:20,389 That's just life. 943 00:43:20,515 --> 00:43:24,268 ‐ For individuals who've been sexually abused as a child, 944 00:43:24,352 --> 00:43:28,022 this confirms that they don't have any meaning 945 00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:30,483 beyond giving pleasure to somebody else. 946 00:43:30,566 --> 00:43:33,194 Of course, you'd expect them to go back, 947 00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:37,156 especially if there is even a glimmer of hope that 948 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,742 maybe something good will come out of this, 949 00:43:39,826 --> 00:43:42,328 because it's a really devastating feeling 950 00:43:42,411 --> 00:43:45,331 to be nothing. 951 00:43:45,414 --> 00:43:47,083 ‐ Within the next few weeks, 952 00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:50,169 Jeffrey and Ghislaine told me that I need to quit my job 953 00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:52,672 with Mar‐a‐Lago because I'll be traveling with them 954 00:43:52,797 --> 00:43:54,715 as their traveling masseuse. 955 00:43:54,841 --> 00:43:56,259 You know, you ask yourself, like, 956 00:43:56,342 --> 00:43:59,220 if I could talk to that 16‐year‐old girl again, 957 00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:01,305 what would you tell her? 958 00:44:01,389 --> 00:44:03,891 Bloody hell, I'd tell her, "Run for your life," 959 00:44:04,016 --> 00:44:06,310 but at 16, you just‐‐ I don't know, yeah, I was‐‐ 960 00:44:06,435 --> 00:44:08,104 I was very intimidated by these people. 961 00:44:08,187 --> 00:44:10,022 ♪ ♪ 962 00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:12,066 ‐ What I call it is invisible chains. 963 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,152 I mean, no, these girls were not tied up, 964 00:44:14,235 --> 00:44:15,987 and people will say, "Well, they kept coming back. 965 00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:17,572 Why did they keep coming back?" 966 00:44:17,697 --> 00:44:20,366 These were not people to be crossed. 967 00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:22,285 These were very significant people 968 00:44:22,368 --> 00:44:24,203 with the ability, the power, the wealth 969 00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:26,956 to destroy a life if they wanted to. 970 00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,710 ♪ ♪ 971 00:44:34,463 --> 00:44:38,009 [tense music] 972 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:50,897 ‐ The first official complaint was in 2005. 973 00:44:55,985 --> 00:44:57,945 ‐ Once the police started uncovering the number 974 00:44:58,029 --> 00:45:00,489 of young girls that were involved in this network, 975 00:45:00,615 --> 00:45:02,867 the investigation snowballed. 976 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:04,493 ‐ They put him under surveillance, 977 00:45:04,577 --> 00:45:07,747 watching his house, seeing girls going in and out. 978 00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:09,874 ‐ They execute a search warrant on the home, 979 00:45:09,999 --> 00:45:11,584 even did a trash pull to investigate 980 00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:13,294 what was being thrown out. 981 00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:15,880 ‐ The shocking thing was the amount of evidence‐‐ 982 00:45:16,005 --> 00:45:20,259 things like Amazon receipts for books about sex slavery, 983 00:45:20,343 --> 00:45:22,011 flight logs, 984 00:45:22,136 --> 00:45:24,305 message pads that had message after message. 985 00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:25,848 A little girl calling in. 986 00:45:25,932 --> 00:45:28,142 "I can bring this friend tonight for a massage." 987 00:45:28,184 --> 00:45:30,603 "I can't go because my grandpa has a birthday." 988 00:45:30,686 --> 00:45:32,021 Things that shock the conscience. 989 00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:34,565 ‐ What you had in this investigation 990 00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:37,693 was a rock solid prosecutable case 991 00:45:37,818 --> 00:45:41,197 against a serial sexual predator. 992 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,076 ♪ ♪ 993 00:45:47,036 --> 00:45:48,746 ‐ I come home, it's super late at night, 994 00:45:48,871 --> 00:45:51,123 and I turn on the TV, and I hear, 995 00:45:51,207 --> 00:45:53,960 "Local Palm Beach billionaire arrested." 996 00:45:54,043 --> 00:45:56,379 I don't, you know, think anything of it. 997 00:45:56,504 --> 00:45:59,757 Well, then, that's Jeffrey Epstein's face on the TV. 998 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,385 So I instantly just call Jeffrey Epstein's assistant, 999 00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:03,803 and she tells me, 1000 00:46:03,886 --> 00:46:05,263 "Everything's okay. Don't worry. 1001 00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:06,722 "Jeffrey only spent, like, 1002 00:46:06,847 --> 00:46:09,016 "a couple hours in jail and he's out. 1003 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,477 "We have you an attorney, and basically, 1004 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,480 if you don't say anything, you'll be taken care of." 1005 00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:15,982 ‐ There are numerous victims, 1006 00:46:16,107 --> 00:46:18,401 they've got compelling evidence, 1007 00:46:18,526 --> 00:46:20,820 but Epstein lawyers up. 1008 00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:22,530 He gets a dream team of lawyers. 1009 00:46:22,655 --> 00:46:24,156 His first call was to Alan Dershowitz, 1010 00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:26,450 tenacious attorney who fights cases 1011 00:46:26,534 --> 00:46:27,994 in the media all the time. 1012 00:46:28,077 --> 00:46:29,996 ‐ The job of a criminal defense lawyer 1013 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,498 is always to get the best result 1014 00:46:32,581 --> 00:46:35,751 you can get ethically and legally. 1015 00:46:35,835 --> 00:46:37,753 ‐ And what they do according to lawsuits 1016 00:46:37,837 --> 00:46:40,006 filed by the victims and court papers 1017 00:46:40,089 --> 00:46:42,008 is essentially begin a campaign of harassment 1018 00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:44,135 and intimidation of the victims. 1019 00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:45,970 ‐ I mean, you don't put this attorney 1020 00:46:46,053 --> 00:46:48,014 at a local sports bar. 1021 00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:51,309 The things he's saying are, like, belittling towards me, 1022 00:46:51,392 --> 00:46:54,729 making it sound like I'm this prostitute. 1023 00:46:54,854 --> 00:46:57,064 I'm just 18 years old at this point. 1024 00:46:57,189 --> 00:46:58,441 I remember telling him, "Oh, I have to use the bathroom," 1025 00:46:58,524 --> 00:46:59,984 and I just left. 1026 00:47:00,067 --> 00:47:02,153 ‐ They certainly had private investigators 1027 00:47:02,236 --> 00:47:04,822 following the young girls and pulling information. 1028 00:47:04,864 --> 00:47:06,324 There's a letter from Alan Dershowitz 1029 00:47:06,407 --> 00:47:07,658 to the prosecutors about 1030 00:47:07,783 --> 00:47:09,577 the little girls' Myspace pages, 1031 00:47:09,702 --> 00:47:10,995 saying he should pay attention 1032 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,788 'cause this person's on drugs and alcohol. 1033 00:47:12,872 --> 00:47:14,915 ‐ It was really a takedown of the victims. 1034 00:47:15,041 --> 00:47:17,460 How do we make them seem not credible? 1035 00:47:17,585 --> 00:47:19,587 ‐ It's completely appropriate 1036 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:21,714 to investigate complaining witnesses. 1037 00:47:21,797 --> 00:47:23,674 The complaining witnesses are fair game. 1038 00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:25,217 ♪ ♪ 1039 00:47:25,301 --> 00:47:27,553 ‐ When I found out that they were calling 1040 00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:29,221 the young girls prostitutes, 1041 00:47:29,347 --> 00:47:31,724 I was worried that other people were gonna think that. 1042 00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:33,309 Were they gonna consider me a victim, 1043 00:47:33,392 --> 00:47:35,269 or were they gonna consider me a prostitute? 1044 00:47:35,353 --> 00:47:37,688 Well, it's kind of a hard thing to swallow. 1045 00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,023 ‐ What went wrong with this case 1046 00:47:39,148 --> 00:47:40,691 is that Barry Krischer, 1047 00:47:40,816 --> 00:47:42,985 the state attorney for Palm Beach County, 1048 00:47:43,069 --> 00:47:44,987 essentially just didn't believe the victims. 1049 00:47:45,112 --> 00:47:47,156 Barry Krischer seems to have said to himself, 1050 00:47:47,198 --> 00:47:50,493 "I believe the rich guy who lives in Palm Beach instead." 1051 00:47:50,576 --> 00:47:53,162 ‐ The Palm Beach police chief protested vigorously 1052 00:47:53,287 --> 00:47:54,705 when the State Attorney's office‐‐ 1053 00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:56,123 citing racy, suggestive web sites 1054 00:47:56,207 --> 00:47:57,750 created by some of the girls‐‐ 1055 00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,794 charged Epstein with a misdemeanor, 1056 00:47:59,919 --> 00:48:01,796 a solicitation of prostitution. 1057 00:48:01,921 --> 00:48:03,172 The case, however, did not go away. 1058 00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:05,091 It was referred to the FBI. 1059 00:48:05,174 --> 00:48:06,675 ‐ So it, then, at that point, 1060 00:48:06,801 --> 00:48:08,719 becomes a federal investigation. 1061 00:48:08,844 --> 00:48:11,597 ‐ I was so confused on what was happening. 1062 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,432 The feds are coming to my house. 1063 00:48:13,516 --> 00:48:16,268 They're knocking on my door. They're showing up at my job. 1064 00:48:16,352 --> 00:48:18,104 They're, like, being super aggressive. 1065 00:48:18,187 --> 00:48:19,814 I don't really know what to think 1066 00:48:19,855 --> 00:48:21,315 'cause by this time, I'm 18. 1067 00:48:21,399 --> 00:48:23,067 I'm like, "Am I gonna go to prison for this?" 1068 00:48:23,192 --> 00:48:24,819 I was just trying to duck and dodge them. 1069 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:26,237 I don't even wanna talk to them. 1070 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,822 ♪ ♪ 1071 00:48:27,947 --> 00:48:30,324 So they end up dropping, like, 1072 00:48:30,408 --> 00:48:32,952 papers off on my front doorstep, 1073 00:48:33,035 --> 00:48:35,996 and it turns out it's all the victims' reports 1074 00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:38,958 of the first time they went to Jeffrey's house, 1075 00:48:39,041 --> 00:48:41,877 and what happened and how they felt. 1076 00:48:42,002 --> 00:48:44,922 It immediately brings me back to the first time 1077 00:48:45,005 --> 00:48:46,674 I went to Jeffrey's, and it was like... 1078 00:48:46,799 --> 00:48:48,467 [snaps] A flashback. 1079 00:48:48,592 --> 00:48:51,470 If I could describe how I felt and everything that happened 1080 00:48:51,554 --> 00:48:52,972 the first time I went, 1081 00:48:53,097 --> 00:48:54,807 it was this paper that I didn't write, 1082 00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:56,934 somebody else did. 1083 00:48:57,017 --> 00:48:58,185 And then I start looking through the box 1084 00:48:58,269 --> 00:48:59,979 and I see all these names of, like, 1085 00:49:00,062 --> 00:49:03,649 girls that I personally brought to him, 1086 00:49:03,732 --> 00:49:05,484 and it was just devastating. 1087 00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:07,486 For two days, I think I just stayed in my house 1088 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:09,738 and cried about it. 1089 00:49:09,822 --> 00:49:14,285 For anybody that I recruited, like, I'm so sorry. 1090 00:49:14,368 --> 00:49:16,078 [sniffles] 1091 00:49:16,162 --> 00:49:19,373 The guilt and shame in how I feel about 1092 00:49:19,457 --> 00:49:22,418 basically I lied to them and lured them in 1093 00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:24,462 to go see this guy‐‐ 1094 00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:26,672 I don't know if it's something that I'll ever, 1095 00:49:26,755 --> 00:49:28,507 really fully get over. 1096 00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:31,302 ♪ ♪ 1097 00:49:33,888 --> 00:49:36,807 ‐ And at this point in summer 2007, 1098 00:49:36,891 --> 00:49:39,560 Epstein's lawyers realize this is bad news 1099 00:49:39,685 --> 00:49:42,062 because once you start getting the FBI involved, 1100 00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:43,564 the potential penalties for that client 1101 00:49:43,689 --> 00:49:44,982 are much more serious. 1102 00:49:45,065 --> 00:49:47,818 They start negotiating a plea deal in secret. 1103 00:49:47,943 --> 00:49:49,695 ♪ ♪ 1104 00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:52,239 ‐ So I comply with the feds, 1105 00:49:52,323 --> 00:49:54,074 but when I called and I asked, 1106 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,826 "What's happening with this case?" 1107 00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:57,286 Nobody can give me an answer. 1108 00:49:57,369 --> 00:49:58,787 They're transferring me, transferring me, 1109 00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:00,247 hanging up on me. 1110 00:50:00,372 --> 00:50:02,291 Nobody ever calls me back. 1111 00:50:02,374 --> 00:50:05,294 Shortly after, I find Brad Edwards. 1112 00:50:05,377 --> 00:50:08,380 ‐ Courtney walked in and she was very direct 1113 00:50:08,506 --> 00:50:10,466 and said, you know, "I'm Courtney Wild. 1114 00:50:10,591 --> 00:50:12,343 "I've been cooperating 1115 00:50:12,426 --> 00:50:14,512 "in a major federal investigation 1116 00:50:14,595 --> 00:50:17,723 "against Jeffrey Epstein, but I'm calling now 1117 00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:19,099 "and nobody's answering my questions. 1118 00:50:19,183 --> 00:50:20,976 So can you help?" 1119 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:23,521 So I really thought I'm gonna call the US Attorney's office, 1120 00:50:23,604 --> 00:50:26,190 they're gonna tell me, "Look, it's a massive investigation. 1121 00:50:26,315 --> 00:50:28,234 He's probably going to plead to a life sentence," 1122 00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:30,986 and instead, the lead prosecutor 1123 00:50:31,111 --> 00:50:33,906 gave me the impression something weird was happening. 1124 00:50:33,989 --> 00:50:35,616 ♪ ♪ 1125 00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:38,786 ‐ There was a very significant cover‐up going on, 1126 00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:40,496 unbeknownst to the victims. 1127 00:50:40,579 --> 00:50:43,082 ‐ And that would turn out to be one of the most 1128 00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:44,833 outrageous aspects of the case. 1129 00:50:44,959 --> 00:50:46,961 ‐ It made absolutely no sense. 1130 00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:48,963 When things like that don't make sense, 1131 00:50:49,088 --> 00:50:51,507 the first thing you look at is money, 1132 00:50:51,632 --> 00:50:53,551 power, and influence. 1133 00:50:53,634 --> 00:50:57,304 ‐ The reality was this was a well‐oiled 1134 00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:59,348 sex trafficking operation, 1135 00:50:59,473 --> 00:51:02,977 which had been going on across much of America, 1136 00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:04,311 across different countries for years, 1137 00:51:04,436 --> 00:51:07,398 and he'd basically gotten away with it. 1138 00:51:07,481 --> 00:51:11,026 ♪ ♪ 93776

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