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♪♪
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so far, the men that have lived
in this house are all dead.
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Those spirits of the
people who died there
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could be in this house.
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We've got to go really deep
into the roots of the story
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within this family.
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That's the bullet hole.
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That was really tough
for her, but --
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I need to go outside.
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That bullet has energy to it.
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Michael, can you see us?
[ oscillating static ]
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aaron: Whoa!
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Holy god,
that sounded like him.
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You can see by the reactions
on their faces...
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Billy: Yeah.
...It worked.
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Zak: We have seen things
that defy explanation,
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experiencing the best...
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God, that was awesome!
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That was so awesome.
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...And worst...
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These dolls are gonna
[bleep] take our souls.
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...Of the places between worlds.
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I want the portals
of this forest wide open!
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Now it's time to look back.
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One of my scariest nightmares
that we are about to relive.
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For the first time ever,
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I'm inviting you, the audience,
into my inner sanctum.
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Together, we will pull back
the curtain on the biggest,
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scariest, and funniest moments
from our investigations.
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I'm zak bagans, and this is
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"ghost adventures:
Screaming room."
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so, why do you guys
always wear black?
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It's kind of --
it's all I own.
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I like to accent it once
in a while with some color.
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Zak: Hi, guys.
All: Hey, zak.
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"hi, zak."
in stereo. [ laughs ]
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so, what I want to do is
I want to start digging into
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some of our deeper
investigations,
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ones that we help families.
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Kind of a de-briefing
for all of us
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to go through what we felt.
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Yeah. One of them
is very tough for me.
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One of them, I had tears
going down my face
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within the first hour
of us arriving,
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and it gets real
serious sometimes,
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and it gets real hard for us.
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Which one are we watching?
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Crisis in oakdale.
Aaron: Oh, wow.
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This was a tough one.
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Zak: This is gonna be
an investigation
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that is gonna be really
troubling for all of us.
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It's extremely sad,
it's very emotional,
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and we're gonna be dealing
with a grieving family
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from a very recent death.
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This may be the hardest
investigation I have ever faced.
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Not only are we going here
to help her,
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but we're also going
to protect her
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by figuring out what is inside
her house that is so sinister.
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Zak: This private home
in oakdale, california,
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has something dark
happening inside.
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It seems that every man
who has lived in this house
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has died an untimely death --
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most recently,
the homeowner's son.
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Some of these investigations,
we show up and they're more fun.
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Some of them, they're just
historic haunted location
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where we're going
and trying to get evidence.
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And then you have these,
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where you're walking in
and a family
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just lost somebody weeks ago,
trying to help them with closure
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by documenting evidence
of their loved one
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who's been trying
to contact them.
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I mean, this is tough to do.
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And empathetically,
we feel it.
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Yeah.
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Zak: Hi, karon.
How you doing?
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Okay. Been better.
Okay.
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I'd like you to just start off
and tell me about the tragedy
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that occurred a little
over a month ago.
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I had a 27-year-old son who was
autistic, very high-functioning.
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This last June, he decided to
see his father for father's day,
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and his father took him out
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and taught him how to load
and fire a gun.
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A short while after, michael
went over to my father's house
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and took an antique .38.
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And then michael came home
and went in the bathroom
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and shot his self
in the head.
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This is a
coping mechanism for her.
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This was her way
to help find closure
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and just a remedy for her pain.
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This was a method, and we were
there to support her,
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support his spirit.
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While she's sitting her
talking to us,
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he's there, spirit of him
is there, listening to this.
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It probably helps,
when we do investigate,
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connect everything together.
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♪♪
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karon: A week to the day
after his passing,
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I was sitting right here.
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I had not been able to go
into michael's room,
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but something just, I felt,
guided me to his room.
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And in the bottom
of his clothes hamper,
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I found two letters from him.
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Apparently, he'd been
planning this for a while.
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In the letters,
he blamed his father,
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and a person that
I don't care to name
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had apparently molested him
when he was 8 years old.
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We didn't know about it, and he
wrote it all out in this letter.
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I want my son to rest in peace.
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That was the most painful thing
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I have ever read
in my entire life.
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Zak: When she handed me
this letter...
Aaron: Oh, yeah.
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And it was his handwriting,
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describing why he took
his own life,
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knowing that I am the only one
who's read that was a big thing.
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And to hear those details
is something
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that I'll never
tell anybody, ever.
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I'll hold that with me here,
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but I think it was important
for me to read that letter
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to understand why
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and to understand his emotion
and tone while he wrote that.
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And that was gonna help me
better try to make contact
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with him while we're there.
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Karon: Michael --
he only watched three tv shows,
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and one was "ghost adventures,"
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because I watched it
and he would watch it with me.
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Zak: Michael, if you're here,
we're here.
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You watched us on television.
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We're here for you,
we're here for your mother,
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we're here for your family,
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and please help your mother out
and just let her feel,
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let her know that you can
move on now, with peace.
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♪♪
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I feel that
our emotional energies,
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at that point, joining together,
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and then also being
linked together with her son
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through him being a fan of us,
I think this, right here,
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was the most important part
to connect with him.
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To bring him, to manifest him
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and to see the emotion
of not only her but me
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and somebody
that he could recognize.
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Zak: You believe
that he's still here?
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Karon: I feel energy.
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Do you think that
there's something here,
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something else, before
your son took his life?
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Yes. There's been doors
opening and closing.
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There's been people
being touched here.
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This is our job as
investigators, to dig deeper,
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to ask these questions
that may be tough,
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but we need to know
the back-story behind this.
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So far, the men that have lived
in this house are all dead.
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What do you mean?
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I bought this house
23 years ago.
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It was two years old. It had
been lived in for one year.
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There was a young man
in his late 20s.
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He was killed in an accident
on the colorado river.
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I had a fiancé for
eight and a half years
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who moved into my house.
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13 years ago,
we found him strangled.
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The police ruled it
a suicide.
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And he was living here
at the time?
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Mm-hmm.
Okay.
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We need to know if there's
been a lingering curse
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within the family.
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We need to know if there's been
a generational demon
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that's been attached to them.
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I don't know if they're
just strange coincidences.
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I don't know if it has
something to do with me.
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I've thought
that a lot of times,
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but I had always hoped
it would never affect my kids.
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Why would it have
something to do with you?
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My mother's death was
ruled a suicide, as well.
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Those spirits of the people
who died there,
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or even who are related
to them, died somewhere else,
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could be in this house
and affect him,
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but now he's there with them,
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and how confused are
those spirits compared to him?
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So it becomes this chaotic mess
where, over time,
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a spirit becomes something
darker than it is supposed to.
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And how do we know
what these other spirits --
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if they also are coaxing him
to do what he did,
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you know, just to get him,
this generational thing
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that just keeps happening
over and over again.
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And that's why most people
that see this and hear this,
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they just see, "oh, he committed
suicide. He's stuck."
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but we've got to go really deep
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into the roots of the story
within this family.
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Zak: Another detail karon
shared with me off-camera
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is that her grandmother
was confined to an insane asylum
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for speaking with the dead.
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Do you have any requests
of anybody you want to talk to,
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or somebody
that we can bring here?
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I was kind of hoping
for a psychic or a medium.
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Okay.
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Karon decides to show me
michael's ashes.
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But, before I see them,
I feel that it's necessary
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to make something very clear
to her as the circumstances
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and emotions are
so delicate and sensitive.
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I don't make any guarantees.
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Okay?
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But what I do make
is a promise and a commitment
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to you and your family
that I'm gonna stay here,
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be here, and share the
emotion that you have,
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in the hopes of reaching out
to the spirit of your son,
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who you believe is still here,
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and hopefully, he can
move on with peace.
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The scary thought,
though, is if this is,
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like, a generational demon
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or something negative
affecting this family,
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who's not to say it's gonna
keep doing it, you know?
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And us learning this, like,
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it might have something
that has a hold of the family,
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which is even scarier.
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♪♪
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karon hasn't been able
to go into the bathroom
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where michael ended his life
just over a month ago,
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but has suggested
we go together.
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♪♪
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this was the most
disturbing part.
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This was bad.
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Her taking us to the bathroom
where he took his life.
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You see the brown?
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Zak: Yeah.
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See right here?
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His head was here, and the
back of his head was here,
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and it ran that way.
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So this whole brown
outline of his body,
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and his head was here.
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that's the bullet hole.
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And I think, when I pointed out
the bullet hole in the wall...
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that was really tough
for her, but...
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I need to go outside.
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...I just made the decision,
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I think, that that bullet
needed to be...
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Aaron: Which is a good point.
...Removed from the wall...
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Billy: I agree.
...Because that bullet
has energy to it.
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Absolutely.
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And I think that what's done
has already been done.
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And I think that
the physical reminders
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of that violent event...
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Billy: Removed.
...Should be removed
and just...
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For sure.
...Fill the house with this,
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with loving photos
and flowers and love.
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Right.
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Zak: We immediately
start the process
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of removing the bullet
from the wall.
248
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This is so difficult,
but I will do whatever I can.
249
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We finally locate the slug.
250
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Hopefully, this will
bring karon some peace.
251
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If you're struggling
with depression,
252
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if you're struggling with
any type of darkness at all,
253
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just, you know, know that,
you know, you're not alone
254
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and a lot of other people
have gone through this
255
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and there's help for you,
256
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and just know that
these things can pass,
257
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so if you don't have
anybody to talk to,
258
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here's a number that you can
talk to somebody.
259
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♪♪
260
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♪♪
261
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♪♪
262
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zak:
We now meet karon's friends,
263
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who visited the home just one
week after michael's death.
264
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Deanna, a psychic, details
numerous dark experiences
265
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she had while here
and after she left.
266
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Is there something else
in the house?
267
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Family has talked about
things being in the house,
268
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occurrences happening.
269
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Did you ever feel
something, though,
270
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that was darker or evil here?
271
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Yeah, I definitely
felt something darker.
272
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Like, the whole time
I was here,
273
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I could feel something
grabbing my side,
274
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like it was trying to, maybe,
attach to me or something.
275
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Demonic?
Yeah.
276
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Now it's time to really
focus on is michael there?
277
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Is his spirit there?
Right.
278
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You know, meeting with
some of their friends here.
279
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It's important to know
what other spirits
280
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might be there
besides michael.
281
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Is there something holding
him there or tormenting him?
282
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Do you think it's here?
Deanna: Yeah.
283
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But I think it might
follow the family, I'm not sure,
284
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'cause they're
grieving so bad and --
285
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it's feeding off of that.
Yeah.
286
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Yeah.
287
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All right.
Thank you both.
288
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Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
289
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Thank you.
Thank you.
290
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I think all the interviews
that we have
291
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are important
for the diagnosis.
292
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We're getting
information from them.
Zak: Yeah, 100%.
293
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We always get a
little bit piece --
294
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but it's my job, too, when I
interview them personally,
295
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to see how genuine
these interviews are.
296
00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:39,317
And what I was being told here
was very compelling
297
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in that there were underlying
spiritual experiences
298
00:13:42,656 --> 00:13:46,024
going on while michael
was alive and even,
299
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you know, himself
was dealing with some of this.
300
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Zak:
Evidence of a sinister energy
301
00:13:51,264 --> 00:13:53,364
surrounding this family
is mounting,
302
00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:56,334
confirming the presence
of darkness in this house.
303
00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:57,869
Karon's daughter, jessica,
304
00:13:57,871 --> 00:14:00,471
describes her
troubling observations
305
00:14:00,473 --> 00:14:02,006
when they first moved in.
306
00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:07,345
Zak: There's something else in
this house that you have felt?
307
00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,747
Jessica: Yeah, I've felt
a lot of things.
308
00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:11,115
There's definitely people.
309
00:14:11,117 --> 00:14:12,650
We came.
They were already here.
310
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Okay.
311
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As long as I haven't got to
to up there, I can manage.
312
00:14:18,658 --> 00:14:21,960
Is it the scene
of where it occurred
313
00:14:21,962 --> 00:14:23,695
is what bothers you
the most?
314
00:14:23,697 --> 00:14:26,698
I can't get past, like,
the sixth stair.
315
00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:29,701
It feels like, you know,
when you jump in cold water
316
00:14:29,703 --> 00:14:32,103
and your lungs...
317
00:14:32,105 --> 00:14:34,138
I get that,
and I can't breathe.
318
00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:35,473
Zak: I wanted this
whole family to help,
319
00:14:35,475 --> 00:14:37,542
but I didn't want
to push them to do anything
320
00:14:37,544 --> 00:14:38,943
that made them uncomfortable.
321
00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:40,478
I know that, already,
322
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,148
they're not in their normal
everyday life at this point,
323
00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:46,317
because they're dealing
with a loss, with grieving.
324
00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:48,653
You know, I just went
through grieving of my father,
325
00:14:48,655 --> 00:14:50,855
and that was about
a year, you know,
326
00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:52,857
but the first
three months were --
327
00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:53,958
you're just not yourself.
328
00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,627
It's a really weird feeling.
329
00:14:55,629 --> 00:14:57,829
So I didn't want
to push them too hard.
330
00:14:57,831 --> 00:14:59,564
And they're re-living it,
talking it.
331
00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:01,499
And it's a little more
intense, too.
Yeah.
332
00:15:01,501 --> 00:15:04,836
Zak: Jessica decides she wants
to try and head up the stairs
333
00:15:04,838 --> 00:15:08,139
in memory of her brother,
but as she reaches the top,
334
00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:11,676
she is overpowered
by pain and sadness.
335
00:15:11,678 --> 00:15:13,645
I can't go in there,
I can tell you that much.
336
00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:15,413
It hurts.
337
00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,415
Once I got to the top
of those stairs
338
00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:20,118
is the first time
I felt something.
339
00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,220
I couldn't breathe.
Billy: Exactly.
340
00:15:22,222 --> 00:15:25,556
Something was squeezing
my chest there,
341
00:15:25,558 --> 00:15:27,525
and it debilitated me.
342
00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:28,993
I didn't know what this was,
343
00:15:28,995 --> 00:15:30,595
but other people
are experiencing it.
344
00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:31,996
Billy, you experienced it.
345
00:15:31,998 --> 00:15:34,165
Yeah, I experienced it,
too, same spot.
346
00:15:34,167 --> 00:15:38,403
Zak: Jessica's sister, alicia,
describes multiple experiences
347
00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:43,641
she had both before and after
this most recent tragedy.
348
00:15:43,643 --> 00:15:48,980
Was there an influx of activity
here after your brother's death?
349
00:15:48,982 --> 00:15:50,381
Oh, absolutely.
350
00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:52,750
And what type of activity?
351
00:15:52,752 --> 00:15:55,720
You could just feel him
when you'd walk in the door.
352
00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:58,990
It was just this electric
kind of energy.
353
00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:01,292
♪♪
354
00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:03,394
the family friend
who cleaned the bathroom
355
00:16:03,396 --> 00:16:06,130
where michael had
shot himself --
356
00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:08,132
he had been talking
to my brother,
357
00:16:08,134 --> 00:16:09,434
you know,
"why did you do this?"
358
00:16:09,436 --> 00:16:11,769
he was close to my brother.
He was angry with him.
359
00:16:11,771 --> 00:16:14,872
He had cleaner on the counter
when he was cleaning.
360
00:16:14,874 --> 00:16:16,641
He witnessed it
fly off the counter.
361
00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:19,410
He did?
Mm-hmm.
362
00:16:19,412 --> 00:16:21,045
Poltergeist activity --
363
00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:23,348
that means
"I want your attention."
364
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:24,882
right.
Knock something off.
365
00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:26,317
"I'm here.
I need your attention.
366
00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:29,253
Please look at me.
Please notice me."
367
00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:31,356
how many times when we're
investigating, at first,
368
00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:33,191
it might not feel it,
it might not be as dark,
369
00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,159
but the deeper we get, we start
drawing out information.
370
00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:36,461
Right.
371
00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:38,763
Then that dark energy starts
making its presence known
372
00:16:38,765 --> 00:16:40,665
and starts, I think,
trying to stop us.
373
00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:41,899
Right.
374
00:16:41,901 --> 00:16:44,836
Did michael ever complain
about ghosts or spirits?
375
00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:47,305
His way of complaining
was a little bit different.
376
00:16:47,307 --> 00:16:48,272
Yeah.
377
00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:50,108
But he would say
things like,
378
00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:51,976
"I need to get
out of this house.
379
00:16:51,978 --> 00:16:55,013
I can't stay here anymore.
I need to get out."
380
00:16:55,015 --> 00:16:56,414
and he could never really --
381
00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:58,016
couldn't detail
the experiences.
382
00:16:58,018 --> 00:16:59,217
Exactly.
383
00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:01,986
Do you believe that it was
because he was being
384
00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:04,355
influenced by
something unseen...
385
00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:06,224
I do.
...Of a spirit or force?
386
00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:07,725
I do, I really do.
Okay.
387
00:17:07,727 --> 00:17:09,861
And do you think
this spirit or force
388
00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:13,731
could be something dark
that is attached to your mother
389
00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,933
and has influenced
your other relatives?
390
00:17:15,935 --> 00:17:18,936
Yes. Yes.
391
00:17:18,938 --> 00:17:20,338
Again, I've never said
this to her,
392
00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:24,742
but when we lived in
a different house in hayward,
393
00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:27,011
there were ghosts there.
394
00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:28,179
I saw them myself.
395
00:17:28,181 --> 00:17:30,581
So activity has been
around your family
396
00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:31,783
since you were little.
397
00:17:31,785 --> 00:17:33,451
It's been around as long
as I can remember.
398
00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:35,953
Remember, this was
like a curve ball.
399
00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:37,789
Like, there was ghosts
at the other house.
400
00:17:37,791 --> 00:17:38,923
But what does that
tell you?
401
00:17:38,925 --> 00:17:41,059
So, like, that's when
we were leaning towards
402
00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:42,427
generational demon,
possibly.
403
00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:43,895
Exactly.
404
00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:47,632
Possibly a generational demon,
or just strong attachments...
405
00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:49,300
Yeah.
...You know, of something.
406
00:17:49,302 --> 00:17:52,770
You think it affects
the men in your family...
Yes.
407
00:17:52,772 --> 00:17:54,439
...In a more negative way?
408
00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:56,941
Yes. Yes.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
409
00:17:56,943 --> 00:17:59,911
I don't know how to explain
what happened to don.
410
00:17:59,913 --> 00:18:01,112
And when don lived here,
411
00:18:01,114 --> 00:18:04,182
did he ever complain
of spirits or anything?
412
00:18:04,184 --> 00:18:08,853
Don wasn't that kind of guy,
but I noticed a lot,
413
00:18:08,855 --> 00:18:11,656
when he would be in this house,
he would get very angry.
414
00:18:11,658 --> 00:18:14,225
So this would just be a
sudden change of rage?
415
00:18:14,227 --> 00:18:15,326
Sudden.
416
00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:16,994
And if he lived there
for 10 years,
417
00:18:16,996 --> 00:18:18,529
he's probably haunting
that house,
418
00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:19,931
'cause that's a house he liked.
419
00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:21,299
When I was about 15,
420
00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:23,768
and I had turned the tv off
for the night,
421
00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,903
when I rolled back
towards my tv,
422
00:18:25,905 --> 00:18:27,371
there was a face in the tv.
423
00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:28,773
You saw a face
in your tv?
424
00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:30,041
I saw a face in my tv.
425
00:18:30,043 --> 00:18:32,076
Was it off?
It was off.
It had been off.
426
00:18:32,078 --> 00:18:33,511
What did the face
look like?
427
00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:35,513
He had black eyes.
In your television?
428
00:18:35,515 --> 00:18:36,914
And I screamed.
In this house?
429
00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:37,982
In this house.
430
00:18:37,984 --> 00:18:39,183
That's not good.
431
00:18:39,185 --> 00:18:43,354
Now this is now spinning
the investigation into...
432
00:18:43,356 --> 00:18:45,123
What's attacking
this family?
433
00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,525
...Is the family
being influenced by evil?
434
00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:50,995
Is the family being influenced
by these generational demons
435
00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:53,965
that have affected
previous family members
436
00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:57,535
that also, coincidentally,
committed suicide?
437
00:18:57,537 --> 00:19:01,939
♪♪
438
00:19:03,743 --> 00:19:09,280
♪♪
439
00:19:09,282 --> 00:19:11,849
zak: As we investigate
this residence,
440
00:19:11,851 --> 00:19:13,784
jay and dakota will be
in the backyard
441
00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:17,488
monitoring a live nerve center.
442
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,991
Michael, this is zak
from the tv show
443
00:19:19,993 --> 00:19:22,627
"ghost adventures"
that you used to watch.
444
00:19:22,629 --> 00:19:24,595
We're with your
grieving family,
445
00:19:24,597 --> 00:19:27,665
who claims that activity in
the house has really picked up.
446
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:30,535
Soon, I'm gonna bring your
mother and your sister inside.
447
00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:32,570
Then I'm gonna bring
a man that has a gift.
448
00:19:32,572 --> 00:19:34,472
He can see you visually.
449
00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:37,642
Does this all sound
okay with you?
450
00:19:37,644 --> 00:19:39,677
[ clears throat ]
what's going on?
451
00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:41,179
Heart rate just went
out of control.
452
00:19:41,181 --> 00:19:42,980
Remember, I said
this happened here earlier.
453
00:19:42,982 --> 00:19:43,814
Yeah.
454
00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:46,350
Ooh.
455
00:19:46,352 --> 00:19:49,387
This is where I started
getting a little bit of anxiety
456
00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:50,688
and something was coming at,
457
00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:53,925
and I feel that it was
one of the darker energies.
458
00:19:53,927 --> 00:19:56,761
I didn't feel like it was
the son or anything like that.
459
00:19:56,763 --> 00:19:58,262
I felt it was something
totally different.
460
00:19:58,264 --> 00:20:01,666
And that's when it amped and we
started getting all this stuff.
461
00:20:01,668 --> 00:20:02,700
Well, we got this.
462
00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:04,068
Zak: Michael, I know
you know what this is.
463
00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:06,938
You've seen us use it
on our show before.
464
00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,039
Remember?
465
00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:09,640
[ tap ]
466
00:20:09,642 --> 00:20:10,741
what was that?
467
00:20:10,743 --> 00:20:12,109
That was pretty loud, dude.
What was that?
468
00:20:12,111 --> 00:20:13,911
It was right over here
on the table.
469
00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:16,547
Zak: All of a sudden,
as I'm addressing michael,
470
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:19,150
we all hear a loud noise
on this table,
471
00:20:19,152 --> 00:20:21,452
but there's no camera
aiming in that direction
472
00:20:21,454 --> 00:20:23,321
to see if something moves.
473
00:20:23,323 --> 00:20:25,323
I mean, what seems so simple,
474
00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:27,692
maybe, to our viewers
of a loud noise coming
475
00:20:27,694 --> 00:20:30,695
just -- this was right,
12 feet, in front of us.
476
00:20:30,697 --> 00:20:32,730
It's really loud.
Yeah.
477
00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:37,068
I mean, something on that table
was hit or moved.
478
00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:39,070
Zak: Were you trying to move
something on the table?
479
00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:41,372
What was that noise?
480
00:20:41,374 --> 00:20:44,675
Can you do it again?
481
00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:46,244
Oh.
482
00:20:46,246 --> 00:20:47,278
It was loud.
483
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,479
Oh.
484
00:20:51,384 --> 00:20:53,184
Oh, god, my stomach hurts.
485
00:20:53,186 --> 00:20:54,719
Oh.
Billy:
Did you hear that?
486
00:20:56,022 --> 00:20:57,822
Oh. I thought
it was upstairs.
487
00:20:57,824 --> 00:20:58,990
That was weird.
488
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:02,360
[ exhales deeply ]
489
00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:04,295
is it the same thing
that hit you, zak,
over there, probably?
490
00:21:04,297 --> 00:21:05,630
Oh, yeah, didn't you feel
like you felt sick earlier?
491
00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:06,931
When you first came in?
492
00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:07,965
Felt dizzy, he said.
493
00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,200
Oh.
494
00:21:09,202 --> 00:21:11,569
Do you think that michael
would do something like this
495
00:21:11,571 --> 00:21:12,737
to make us feel bad?
496
00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:13,871
I think it's the other spirits,
497
00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,139
maybe trying to stop us
from helping him.
498
00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:16,340
Yeah, michael wouldn't be
trying to make you feel bad.
499
00:21:16,342 --> 00:21:18,976
Or we could also
be feeling the pain...
500
00:21:18,978 --> 00:21:20,478
True.
...That michael
is feeling...
501
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,480
That's true.
...And be interpreting
it differently.
502
00:21:22,482 --> 00:21:25,149
It was a tough investigation
because of that.
503
00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:28,286
I mean, just imagine going into
a room with a bad person
504
00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:31,756
and a good person,
and you got ear plugs in,
505
00:21:31,758 --> 00:21:34,492
you've got a blindfold on,
and you're just feeling around.
506
00:21:34,494 --> 00:21:37,094
And then you're near
the really bad killer person,
507
00:21:37,096 --> 00:21:39,730
and you're, like, "oh,
this might be the good person".
508
00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,599
You've got to use
your emotions, your abilities,
509
00:21:41,601 --> 00:21:44,835
your sensitivities,
to determine what this is.
510
00:21:44,837 --> 00:21:46,771
Zak: Being inside this house,
you never know
511
00:21:46,773 --> 00:21:50,474
when an energy of emotions
will suddenly debilitate you.
512
00:21:50,476 --> 00:21:52,777
And, as aaron continues
to become emotional...
513
00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:54,879
Oh, god, that was crazy.
514
00:21:54,881 --> 00:21:57,648
Zak: ...I start to feel a sharp
pain in my stomach...
515
00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,116
Ow, ow!
516
00:21:59,118 --> 00:22:02,787
...At the same exact time that
an ice-cold air mass hits us.
517
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:04,422
Billy: Holy [bleep]!
What?
518
00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:05,923
Feel that cold air right here.
519
00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,124
Aaron:
Think my camera's freezing.
520
00:22:07,126 --> 00:22:10,061
Michael, is this you here,
walked up on us?
521
00:22:10,063 --> 00:22:11,562
Crazy how we all three
were together.
522
00:22:11,564 --> 00:22:13,164
I'm getting hurt,
the energy goes up.
523
00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:14,932
Next minute, someone else,
energy goes up.
524
00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,034
It uses our energy
to actually amp this.
525
00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:18,336
Well, you felt it.
And zak felt it.
526
00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:20,104
The cold air was a
manifestation.
Oh, sure.
527
00:22:20,106 --> 00:22:21,839
It was a spirit in front of us.
528
00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:27,011
It was manifesting, and it was
leaving the air extremely cold.
529
00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:28,713
Zak: We immediately
begin setting up
530
00:22:28,715 --> 00:22:30,948
the live-talking evp device
531
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:34,418
to see if this is, indeed,
michael or a different spirit.
532
00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:35,986
And, as we are doing this,
533
00:22:35,988 --> 00:22:39,623
the back door unexplainably
opens by itself.
534
00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,659
[ indistinct chatter ]
535
00:22:42,729 --> 00:22:45,196
[ door hinges creaking ]
536
00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:47,164
what was --
[bleep].
537
00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:51,502
Guys, guys, guys, the door's
opening by itself back here.
538
00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:54,171
Oh, my god.
539
00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:56,707
Aaron: Guys, this was shut.
Yeah, no, that just opened.
540
00:22:56,709 --> 00:22:58,676
Yeah, we just witnessed
it open up by itself.
541
00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:00,177
Oh, my god, dude.
542
00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:02,046
So, at this point,
the door did open.
543
00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:03,514
We were unable to determine
544
00:23:03,516 --> 00:23:06,484
whether or not, maybe, a little
breeze of wind did that.
545
00:23:06,486 --> 00:23:08,352
But we were able to look
at the curtains
546
00:23:08,354 --> 00:23:10,154
and look at other things
at that time,
547
00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:12,857
to say even the plastic
on the tent there,
548
00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:14,959
to see there wasn't
any strong winds.
549
00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:17,595
I remember there wasn't a storm.
It wasn't windy or anything.
550
00:23:17,597 --> 00:23:18,796
Billy: No.
551
00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:21,632
Second-time poltergeists.
You know what I'm saying?
552
00:23:21,634 --> 00:23:23,834
So, something actually
turned the handle to open it.
553
00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:25,002
It had to.
554
00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:26,804
Zak: Here is an earlier
shot of billy
555
00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:29,974
making sure this door
is completely shut.
556
00:23:29,976 --> 00:23:32,276
Were you able to get anything
on camera from out there?
557
00:23:32,278 --> 00:23:34,345
Jay: Well, this camera, I mean,
you can't see the door,
558
00:23:34,347 --> 00:23:37,181
but I don't think you can
actually see past this thing.
559
00:23:40,686 --> 00:23:42,686
Zak:
Because all of this activity,
560
00:23:42,688 --> 00:23:44,455
I turn on the spirit box,
561
00:23:44,457 --> 00:23:48,325
and, as I do, we receive
this chilling response.
562
00:23:48,327 --> 00:23:50,928
[ oscillating static,
indistinct voice ]
563
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,396
did it say,
"I need your help"?
564
00:23:52,398 --> 00:23:54,932
Aaron: Yeah. It said,
"need your help."
565
00:23:57,136 --> 00:24:00,271
I mean, you've got to remember,
if michael is there, he sees us.
566
00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:03,674
He knows that he's watched our
episodes of "ghost adventures."
567
00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,009
he wants to get our attention.
568
00:24:05,011 --> 00:24:06,444
-All: Yeah.
-You know?
569
00:24:06,446 --> 00:24:09,647
It's like someone stalking,
maybe, an earthquake collapse,
570
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:11,215
and you're just there
for days and days
571
00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:12,516
screaming "help"
and "help" and "help,"
572
00:24:12,518 --> 00:24:14,618
but, finally, you hear a voice
that you recognize.
573
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,954
And the more excited we get,
or the more spooked,
574
00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:19,190
it uses that energy
to do things.
575
00:24:19,192 --> 00:24:21,959
Zak: This is an extremely
emotional response,
576
00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:23,394
and because of that,
577
00:24:23,396 --> 00:24:26,297
it is time for us to invite
michael's mother and sister
578
00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:27,798
into the investigation.
579
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,967
As I begin making
my way up the stairs
580
00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:32,002
to try to capture
michael's voice,
581
00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:34,872
I'm not prepared
for the emotional event
582
00:24:34,874 --> 00:24:36,740
that is about to occur.
583
00:24:36,742 --> 00:24:38,709
Michael, can you see us?
584
00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:42,046
[ oscillating static ]
585
00:24:42,048 --> 00:24:43,714
[ indistinct voice ]
586
00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:45,182
aaron: Whoa!
"say something."
587
00:24:46,419 --> 00:24:47,451
what?
588
00:24:47,453 --> 00:24:48,619
It was michael.
589
00:24:48,621 --> 00:24:50,654
What, karon?
Oh, god, I've got chills.
590
00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:54,124
Mi-- oh! Oh.
591
00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,626
Aaron: Bringing them
in here was amazing.
592
00:24:55,628 --> 00:25:01,432
Family recognized the voice
as michael's voice,
593
00:25:01,434 --> 00:25:04,802
and you can see
by the reactions on their faces
594
00:25:04,804 --> 00:25:08,272
that this was a very,
very important moment,
595
00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:11,709
if not the most important moment
in the entire investigation.
596
00:25:11,711 --> 00:25:14,044
It worked. This worked.
597
00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:18,048
♪♪
598
00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:24,021
♪♪
599
00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:26,957
zak: In oakdale, california,
we just heard a voice
600
00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:30,561
that sounded like karon's
deceased son, michael.
601
00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:33,330
Aaron: Whoa!
602
00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:37,468
Immediately after this voice,
603
00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:39,937
I feel something grab me
on my rear end,
604
00:25:39,939 --> 00:25:42,039
and I have no idea
that, earlier,
605
00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:45,676
the family asked michael
to do this to me.
606
00:25:45,678 --> 00:25:47,945
Something touched me
back here.
607
00:25:47,947 --> 00:25:50,180
We asked him to do that.
Oh, my god.
608
00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:51,215
What?
609
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:53,050
When we were outside.
610
00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:54,151
What?
611
00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:58,355
We specifically asked
michael to touch you.
612
00:25:58,357 --> 00:25:59,623
On your butt.
613
00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,425
Billy: See, it was like
a happy moment for them
614
00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:03,427
because they got
their validation.
615
00:26:03,429 --> 00:26:06,330
He is there.
He does hear us.
616
00:26:06,332 --> 00:26:09,066
When that happened, I actually,
like, felt a great deal
617
00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:11,468
of satisfaction
that he's there listening.
618
00:26:11,470 --> 00:26:12,803
And then you have
three elements there.
619
00:26:12,805 --> 00:26:14,905
You have us getting
the evidence,
620
00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:17,308
experiencing his spirit
directly -- me.
621
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:19,410
You have the reaction
from his mother
622
00:26:19,412 --> 00:26:21,912
and his sister
validating it's him.
623
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,581
And then you have michael,
who's there.
624
00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:25,115
That's a triangle of energy
625
00:26:25,117 --> 00:26:27,284
that I believe
has connected to him.
626
00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:29,787
Zak: As I turn
the spirit box back on,
627
00:26:29,789 --> 00:26:33,157
another emotional response
comes through.
628
00:26:33,159 --> 00:26:35,626
Michael, can you
give them a message?
629
00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:37,361
[ indistinct voice ]
"mom."
630
00:26:37,363 --> 00:26:39,496
"mom!" he said, "mom!"
oh!
631
00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:40,664
He said, "mom".
632
00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:42,866
That's what it sounded like.
I heard "mom".
633
00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:44,435
Oh, baby,
you're doing good.
634
00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,270
Aaron:
That's right -- "mom".
635
00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:48,205
God, this --
was incredible.
636
00:26:48,207 --> 00:26:49,707
Chills, just an emotional...
637
00:26:49,709 --> 00:26:51,075
Aaron: Oh, hoo.
638
00:26:51,077 --> 00:26:53,310
I think that was him, but, like,
I just want to throw out,
639
00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:56,347
you have to be careful, too,
'cause if it is something dark,
640
00:26:56,349 --> 00:26:59,083
they're gonna try to be
something to comfort you...
641
00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:01,385
Yeah.
...And then trick
the mother into thinking --
642
00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:02,753
but I think this was...
I think it was, too, though.
643
00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:04,855
...Because they heard his voice,
the butt grab was a joke.
644
00:27:04,857 --> 00:27:06,857
And "mom" -- it all tied in.
645
00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:08,726
I think in this case,
though, we're all like,
646
00:27:08,728 --> 00:27:10,461
"oh, we've got to the careful.
It could be this".
647
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:13,397
I think at this point,
love is stronger than...
648
00:27:13,399 --> 00:27:15,065
Yeah.
I agree.
649
00:27:15,067 --> 00:27:18,702
Zak: It is now time to invite
world-renowned psychic medium
650
00:27:18,704 --> 00:27:20,771
and our good friend,
chris fleming,
651
00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:24,008
into the investigation
to try to help the family
652
00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:26,243
as well as the spirit
of michael.
653
00:27:26,245 --> 00:27:28,078
It's like I can't sit still.
654
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,581
Zak: Yeah, there's a lot
of high anxiety in there.
655
00:27:30,583 --> 00:27:31,949
It just hits you.
Yeah.
656
00:27:31,951 --> 00:27:33,951
By doing this,
it's calming me, you know?
657
00:27:33,953 --> 00:27:36,186
By playing with my fingers
and my hands.
658
00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:37,921
I like how he shows up now.
659
00:27:37,923 --> 00:27:39,490
We got the little closure
with the son,
660
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:40,958
but now he's coming in
to explain
661
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,426
what else is in the room...
More details.
662
00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:44,628
...And then we go in there
and try to get rid of the evil.
663
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:46,130
You know?
-Yeah.
664
00:27:51,737 --> 00:27:52,770
He's just right on.
665
00:27:52,772 --> 00:27:54,705
So he picks up on
a man and a woman,
666
00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:58,876
and he has no idea that
her fiancé committed suicide
667
00:27:58,878 --> 00:28:00,778
and that her grandmother
committed suicide.
668
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,846
He just called out both of them.
669
00:28:02,848 --> 00:28:04,782
Right.
If it's who he was sensing.
670
00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:06,050
Zak:
This is chris fleming.
671
00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:07,551
Hi, chris. I'm karon.
672
00:28:07,553 --> 00:28:08,852
Karon, nice to meet you.
Mom.
673
00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:09,887
You okay?
674
00:28:11,791 --> 00:28:13,457
[ exhales ]
675
00:28:16,562 --> 00:28:21,899
there's a lot of sorry,
"I am sorry" coming through.
676
00:28:21,901 --> 00:28:23,033
I'll show you.
677
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,703
Okay. I'm ready.
678
00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:26,970
I want to see.
679
00:28:26,972 --> 00:28:28,038
It was a powerful moment.
680
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240
You can just see
the relief that she has.
681
00:28:30,242 --> 00:28:32,409
He says, "I'll prove
to you that I'm okay".
682
00:28:32,411 --> 00:28:33,644
Okay.
683
00:28:33,646 --> 00:28:36,547
He's also saying, "I thought
about it for a while".
684
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:38,015
Zak: He thought about
what for a while?
685
00:28:38,017 --> 00:28:40,317
Taking his life?
686
00:28:43,222 --> 00:28:46,557
Let me ask you this.
Who's the man?
687
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:50,961
There was a man just -- is there
someone else who passed away?
688
00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:52,329
Did his father pass away?
689
00:28:52,331 --> 00:28:54,598
Did someone pass away
that is male?
690
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,468
'cause there's a male
in this house, too.
691
00:28:57,470 --> 00:29:01,638
Yes. Another male
that lived in this house.
692
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,775
Zak: Karon's fiancé,
who lived in this house,
693
00:29:04,777 --> 00:29:06,710
also committed suicide,
694
00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:09,046
but some claim
that he was murdered.
695
00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:12,049
Do you remember right
when chris fleming arrived,
696
00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:14,351
that he said that he was
having visions in the car?
697
00:29:14,353 --> 00:29:16,453
On his way there.
Before he had
any information.
698
00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:18,055
Chris says that a lot.
699
00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:20,257
He has a good connection
with kind of foreseeing
700
00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:21,492
or having things come to him
701
00:29:21,494 --> 00:29:23,260
even before he gets
to the place.
702
00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:27,598
We all begin hearing noises or
footsteps coming from upstairs.
703
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,668
♪♪
704
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:33,003
it sounds like footsteps.
705
00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:34,538
Aaron: It's hardwood floor,
it'd be the bathroom
706
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,406
because it was all carpet,
you know what I'm saying?
707
00:29:36,408 --> 00:29:37,574
It was carpeted hallway.
708
00:29:37,576 --> 00:29:38,876
That is a good point.
709
00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:40,310
You do hear a hard surface,
710
00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:42,446
and the only hard surface
up there is the bathroom.
711
00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:45,082
Zak: Karon and I think that
it's a good idea at this point
712
00:29:45,084 --> 00:29:48,352
for chris to read
her son's suicide letter
713
00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:52,523
so he can connect with the
energy that's infused within it.
714
00:29:57,263 --> 00:29:58,929
It really hit him.
Billy: Yeah.
715
00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:02,266
Him reading this letter really,
really got to chris.
716
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:11,008
♪♪
717
00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:13,210
zak: Michael, someone is here
718
00:30:13,212 --> 00:30:16,213
that can see you
a lot better than we can.
719
00:30:16,215 --> 00:30:18,982
He read your letter
just like I did.
720
00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:22,186
I'm gonna bring him
towards your room.
721
00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:23,687
[ exhales sharply ]
722
00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,589
he just came out of the wall
right behind you,
723
00:30:25,591 --> 00:30:27,791
in between you and I,
and he went back in.
724
00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:30,360
Aaron: This is where chris
started sensing the boy,
725
00:30:30,362 --> 00:30:31,395
the son, right?
726
00:30:31,397 --> 00:30:33,363
Coming out of the wall,
727
00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:35,866
in the same spot
where the family told us
728
00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:37,668
that that's always
where michael would stand.
729
00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:39,169
Yeah, he didn't know
any of that coming into it.
730
00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:40,204
He didn't know anything!
Any details.
731
00:30:40,206 --> 00:30:41,805
Zero.
He didn't know anything.
732
00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:43,740
That's what we do.
We don't tell them anything.
733
00:30:43,742 --> 00:30:45,509
No! That's why
we bring them in.
734
00:30:45,511 --> 00:30:47,711
It makes it amazing
every time.
735
00:30:47,713 --> 00:30:52,082
♪♪
736
00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:58,121
♪♪
737
00:30:58,123 --> 00:31:01,525
zak: As we investigate a house
in northern california,
738
00:31:01,527 --> 00:31:03,994
chris sees michael
come out of this wall
739
00:31:03,996 --> 00:31:06,096
just behind the railing
seen here.
740
00:31:06,098 --> 00:31:07,664
Billy: And that's where michael
would always stand,
741
00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:09,333
at the top of the stairs,
right there.
742
00:31:09,335 --> 00:31:12,269
Chris says that he sees his
spirit coming out of the wall.
743
00:31:12,271 --> 00:31:14,905
Remember that because, later,
when I have the sls camera,
744
00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:17,774
I document something to give him
a lot of credence to that.
745
00:31:17,776 --> 00:31:19,243
That's right.
746
00:31:19,245 --> 00:31:21,211
Zak: As chris is standing
in the exact spot
747
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:24,014
where michael took his own life
just over a month ago,
748
00:31:24,016 --> 00:31:26,617
he begins to channel
michael's final thoughts
749
00:31:26,619 --> 00:31:28,752
before he pulled the trigger.
750
00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:32,256
He was shaking before,
contemplating thinking about it,
751
00:31:32,258 --> 00:31:33,924
something he's thought of,
752
00:31:33,926 --> 00:31:37,561
but now he's in that moment
where he's making a decision.
753
00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:39,897
And he's saying,
"forgive me, forgive me.
754
00:31:39,899 --> 00:31:41,899
I don't know
who I am anymore."
755
00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:43,467
and he keeps thinking
of this weight,
756
00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:46,536
this thing that he's dealt with,
that he can't get past it.
757
00:31:46,538 --> 00:31:48,639
But then he's saying,
"forgive me,"
758
00:31:48,641 --> 00:31:50,707
because he knows,
"I'm not a bad kid.
759
00:31:50,709 --> 00:31:51,909
This isn't me.
760
00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:54,478
I want to know
who I really am,
761
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,516
and I'm not this, so I don't
want this anymore."
762
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,118
and then he says, "forgive me".
763
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,020
It's like he's talking
to someone else.
764
00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:05,956
Like he's talking to god,
or who he's talking to,
765
00:32:05,958 --> 00:32:07,824
he's saying, "forgive me."
766
00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:09,693
that's got to be
hard to do.
767
00:32:09,695 --> 00:32:11,662
This was hard for me,
being in there.
768
00:32:11,664 --> 00:32:14,264
Like, and just for chris
to open himself up to that,
769
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,300
for the family
to hear those words.
770
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,334
Right.
771
00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:23,840
"she's helping me
bring peace to myself,
772
00:32:23,842 --> 00:32:26,209
to know that I am more
than just this.
773
00:32:26,211 --> 00:32:30,414
This was just
an experience for me."
774
00:32:30,416 --> 00:32:32,316
it's as if she's reminding
and telling him
775
00:32:32,318 --> 00:32:35,619
that you must let go of this,
and you must elevate
776
00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,487
so you won't be trapped here.
777
00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:38,689
Poor guy.
778
00:32:38,691 --> 00:32:40,524
Michael, I hope
we helped you there, buddy.
779
00:32:40,526 --> 00:32:41,892
Me, too.
Oh, I'm sure we did.
780
00:32:41,894 --> 00:32:43,126
I hope we helped you.
781
00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:48,231
That was the man.
782
00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:51,935
Zak: Chris now begins to detect
a darker male presence.
783
00:32:51,937 --> 00:32:55,405
Could this be karon's fiancé
that chris detected earlier?
784
00:32:55,407 --> 00:32:56,707
There's a man
in this house, too.
785
00:32:56,709 --> 00:33:00,477
Yes. Another male
that lived in this house.
786
00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:04,348
Male's not good.
Male wants him to stay here.
787
00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:07,851
So, this began to be
very clear for chris,
788
00:33:07,853 --> 00:33:11,221
and you can see without
hesitation he's picking this up.
789
00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:13,657
And that's probably the
malevolent/big poltergeist
790
00:33:13,659 --> 00:33:14,825
sometimes, you know.
791
00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:16,727
Like, "get out of my house,"
pushing stuff.
792
00:33:16,729 --> 00:33:19,830
He's the one making the
negativity happen, for sure.
793
00:33:19,832 --> 00:33:22,099
Zak: As chris tries
to get a clear image
794
00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:25,635
of this darker male spirit,
he heads into michael's bedroom,
795
00:33:25,637 --> 00:33:27,504
at which time
I begin documenting
796
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,339
a large figure behind him.
797
00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:34,911
♪♪
798
00:33:34,913 --> 00:33:37,481
zak: There's somebody
in the closet.
799
00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:38,782
Chris: Yeah.
800
00:33:38,784 --> 00:33:42,386
There's somebody standing
right next to you in the closet.
801
00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:44,054
They small or large?
802
00:33:44,056 --> 00:33:46,523
It's a large figure.
803
00:33:47,826 --> 00:33:49,359
He knows who I am.
804
00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:51,361
Zak: What's interesting is that
we are looking at this figure,
805
00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:52,763
and at first we're like,
806
00:33:52,765 --> 00:33:55,065
"is it possibly matrixing
something in the background".
807
00:33:55,067 --> 00:33:57,300
But the reason why we decided
808
00:33:57,302 --> 00:33:59,336
that this was an interesting
piece of evidence
809
00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,004
is that it lifted its arm up
810
00:34:01,006 --> 00:34:03,306
in a gesture almost
towards chris.
811
00:34:03,308 --> 00:34:05,042
That, to me,
was really interesting.
812
00:34:05,044 --> 00:34:06,209
Yeah.
813
00:34:06,211 --> 00:34:08,712
Something's
coming up my legs.
814
00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:11,782
My legs are feeling --
815
00:34:11,784 --> 00:34:14,251
it's making itself known.
Sit over here. Come over here.
816
00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:16,153
Hey, zak?
Zak, come on in here.
817
00:34:16,155 --> 00:34:17,521
Huh?
818
00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:21,391
I want you to come forward.
I sense you.
819
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:24,428
If something comes through,
allow it to come through.
820
00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:25,796
Okay, I'm gonna
communicate with it.
821
00:34:25,798 --> 00:34:27,597
Who is this?
Make yourself known.
822
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,466
I demand that you
make yourself known.
823
00:34:29,468 --> 00:34:34,004
I'm aware of your presence
to her, your attachment.
824
00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:35,505
Come forward.
825
00:34:35,507 --> 00:34:38,208
Thank god he's here to help them
and the family at the same time
826
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:39,976
because, if he didn't come,
827
00:34:39,978 --> 00:34:42,112
maybe we wouldn't have got
that closure for him.
828
00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:45,582
Yeah, I think his abilities
helped us reach the depth
829
00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:49,019
that we wanted to reach
with the communication.
830
00:34:49,021 --> 00:34:51,721
Sometimes, it seems like it's
directed on who you should call,
831
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:53,390
what person to bring in.
Oh, yeah.
832
00:34:53,392 --> 00:34:55,225
You know, maybe you're
guided to do that,
833
00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:56,993
that chris was
the right fit for that.
834
00:34:56,995 --> 00:34:58,495
Oh, he was the perfect fit.
835
00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,764
Zak: As chris takes karon
and her daughter
836
00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:03,100
outside and continues
to assist them,
837
00:35:03,102 --> 00:35:06,536
I begin capturing another figure
in the exact same spot
838
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:10,540
where chris saw michael's spirit
come out of the wall earlier.
839
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:13,477
And it is now that I remember
the family told me
840
00:35:13,479 --> 00:35:16,046
this was michael's
favorite spot to stand.
841
00:35:16,048 --> 00:35:18,315
He would talk to the family
842
00:35:18,317 --> 00:35:22,686
from right in the middle of
that hallway, looking down.
843
00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:25,755
With chris, billy, dakota,
and the family out front,
844
00:35:25,757 --> 00:35:27,858
jay and myself
at nerve center,
845
00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:31,328
and aaron, seen here, entering
the downstairs bathroom,
846
00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:34,631
watch very closely
what happens to this front door
847
00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:38,401
that's been open
for over 15 minutes.
848
00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:41,138
Zak: Here's the biggest piece
of evidence of the night.
849
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:43,140
Look at that.
Aaron goes into the bathroom.
850
00:35:43,142 --> 00:35:48,178
That door that's been open
for 15 minutes shuts by itself.
851
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:49,613
There's no wind at all.
852
00:35:49,615 --> 00:35:51,882
If there was wind outside, it
would have pushed the door open.
853
00:35:51,884 --> 00:35:53,250
Right, it would have
come in.
Not shut it.
854
00:35:53,252 --> 00:35:54,651
Well, and it's happened
twice in there.
855
00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:55,952
This is twice now.
Twice.
856
00:35:55,954 --> 00:35:58,655
Yeah, this is twice.
Two different doors, no wind.
857
00:35:58,657 --> 00:36:01,291
Zak: Did somebody just come up,
open, and close this door?
858
00:36:01,293 --> 00:36:03,360
No. No, we've been out
front this entire time,
859
00:36:03,362 --> 00:36:04,761
for at least five
or 10 minutes.
860
00:36:04,763 --> 00:36:06,229
That door just opened
and closed,
861
00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:07,597
we just saw it
at nerve center.
862
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:08,765
Oh!
863
00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:09,966
None of you guys
came in up here?
864
00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:12,235
No, we've all been
right here.
865
00:36:14,273 --> 00:36:16,039
That is very common here.
866
00:36:16,041 --> 00:36:18,275
Zak: Could this be
the aggressive male spirit
867
00:36:18,277 --> 00:36:20,410
telling us to stay
out of the house?
868
00:36:20,412 --> 00:36:22,245
The last little bit...
Billy: Final push.
869
00:36:22,247 --> 00:36:23,446
...Shut with force.
870
00:36:23,448 --> 00:36:25,749
It's going slow,
it's going slow, and then slam.
871
00:36:25,751 --> 00:36:27,417
Then, get out.
Like it picks up speed.
872
00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:30,754
That door slammed at the end.
That was intent.
873
00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:33,023
It got the door going,
and then it was -- urgh!
874
00:36:33,025 --> 00:36:34,391
Yeah.
875
00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:36,459
Who was outside, that they were
shutting the door on?
876
00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:37,928
Chris.
877
00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:41,331
Was it the dark male spirit
that chris just picked up on?
878
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:44,334
Zak: As we go back inside
to investigate the door,
879
00:36:44,336 --> 00:36:46,136
we hear something upstairs.
880
00:36:46,138 --> 00:36:48,238
What?
881
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,306
Aaron: What was that?
882
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:53,376
[ clicking ]
883
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:55,011
that was upstairs.
884
00:36:55,013 --> 00:36:56,213
Billy:
There's nobody up there.
885
00:36:56,215 --> 00:36:58,215
Zak: As we head up there
to investigate,
886
00:36:58,217 --> 00:37:01,284
aaron and billy are both hit
by a negative force of energy
887
00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:03,687
that topples them over
like dominoes.
888
00:37:03,689 --> 00:37:06,122
Should we try
spirit sweep?
Billy: Dude.
889
00:37:06,124 --> 00:37:07,991
[bleep].
890
00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:09,859
Aaron: Holy [bleep]!
891
00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:11,595
I feel like my hand's
in a vice right now.
892
00:37:11,597 --> 00:37:14,197
If that dark spirit
did shut the door on us,
893
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,766
then it moves up the stairs
and affects you and drops you.
894
00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:18,768
Aaron and me --
the both of us.
895
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:20,637
You said, "what's wrong
with you guys?"
896
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,472
that's an interesting
chain of events
897
00:37:22,474 --> 00:37:24,341
that I never really
picked up on before.
898
00:37:24,343 --> 00:37:27,711
Now you know why this show
is so important for us to do.
899
00:37:27,713 --> 00:37:32,682
♪♪
900
00:37:34,319 --> 00:37:38,555
♪♪
901
00:37:38,557 --> 00:37:41,324
zak: At this oakdale,
california, residence,
902
00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:45,595
billy and aaron are
overwhelmed by a dark energy.
903
00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:46,863
Zak: Bill?
Billy: Hold on.
904
00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:51,167
I'm about to pass out, man.
I'm not kidding.
905
00:37:51,169 --> 00:37:53,570
Bill? Aaron?
906
00:37:53,572 --> 00:37:54,738
Aaron!
907
00:37:58,543 --> 00:38:00,510
That was intense, and you were
on the floor.
908
00:38:00,512 --> 00:38:01,978
Aaron:
I couldn't get up.
909
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:04,447
I've learned, when that happens
to you, get out of the location.
910
00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:05,949
Go outside and get
some fresh air
911
00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:09,252
because it's not
gonna get better.
912
00:38:09,254 --> 00:38:11,921
We now decide to bring
the spirit sweep device
913
00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:15,058
inside the house,
and prepare yourselves at home
914
00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:18,228
because we are about to receive
some incredible responses.
915
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:21,431
Billy, talk to us about
what the heck you guys got here.
916
00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:23,066
This blew me away.
Billy: This was incredible.
917
00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:24,801
We're using the
spirit sweep device.
918
00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:26,836
And chris, too --
chris couldn't believe it.
919
00:38:26,838 --> 00:38:28,772
Zak: Who's here?
Can you say your name?
920
00:38:28,774 --> 00:38:31,141
[ indistinct voice ]
921
00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:33,109
"he heard me."
922
00:38:33,111 --> 00:38:34,511
we hear you.
923
00:38:34,513 --> 00:38:36,713
He's telling us
"it hurts when it --"
924
00:38:36,715 --> 00:38:39,248
the last word, we can't
make out. Can you?
925
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:41,284
Who's here?
Can you say your name?
926
00:38:45,724 --> 00:38:47,824
They're full sentences
that comes with this device.
927
00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:49,626
And it just sounds like
in an echo.
928
00:38:49,628 --> 00:38:52,162
It's almost like you're
making a direct connection
929
00:38:52,164 --> 00:38:53,430
into the spirit world,
930
00:38:53,432 --> 00:38:55,165
and they're sending
full sentences to you.
931
00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:57,667
But was that michael?
"it hurts when I..."
932
00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,369
somebody in pain,
we know that.
933
00:38:59,371 --> 00:39:00,970
Listen to that.
934
00:39:02,607 --> 00:39:03,640
Crystal clear.
Yeah.
935
00:39:03,642 --> 00:39:05,075
-Aaron: The same voice.
-Same voice.
936
00:39:05,077 --> 00:39:08,712
Zak: Now this spirit comes
through and says, "one time."
937
00:39:08,714 --> 00:39:10,714
we hear you.
938
00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:19,589
As I ask who we are talking to,
939
00:39:19,591 --> 00:39:22,492
we receive this
incredible response.
940
00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:24,060
I'm human.
941
00:39:27,466 --> 00:39:30,300
So, is michael using
the electromagnetic spectrum
942
00:39:30,302 --> 00:39:32,936
within this device
to now talk freely?
943
00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:35,872
Can I say this, that device
was set exactly on the floor
944
00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:37,407
where we recovered the bullet.
945
00:39:37,409 --> 00:39:39,008
Right.
I don't know
if you realize that.
946
00:39:39,010 --> 00:39:41,644
Zak:
Billy moves the spirit sweep
to the top of the stairs
947
00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:45,315
where he claims he felt
something squeezing his throat.
948
00:39:45,317 --> 00:39:48,585
Does the the man
want to cross over?
949
00:39:48,587 --> 00:39:50,453
[ indistinct voice ]
950
00:39:50,455 --> 00:39:53,056
"the dimensions will be
respected." did you hear that?
951
00:39:53,058 --> 00:39:55,425
"the dimensions
will be respected".
952
00:39:55,427 --> 00:39:56,793
Zak:
What do you make of that?
953
00:39:56,795 --> 00:40:00,463
"dimensions disrespected."
954
00:40:00,465 --> 00:40:03,400
wow!
Seven syllables
in the same voice.
955
00:40:03,402 --> 00:40:06,035
What do you make of that?
"dimensions disrespected."
956
00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:07,404
maybe they don't like the fact
957
00:40:07,406 --> 00:40:09,639
that we're trying
to tune into their world.
958
00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:11,474
We're disrespecting
the dimensions.
959
00:40:11,476 --> 00:40:13,209
"stay in your lane."
that's a good point.
960
00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:15,712
And the aggressive one
definitely wants us gone.
961
00:40:15,714 --> 00:40:17,680
What was your
fiancé's name?
962
00:40:17,682 --> 00:40:18,815
Dylan.
963
00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:20,884
Was he mean?
Did he have a temper?
964
00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:23,019
He had a temper,
but he also had a big heart.
965
00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:24,821
Okay.
When he was in this house,
966
00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:27,824
did he have any bouts
of unexplained rage?
967
00:40:27,826 --> 00:40:29,125
Yeah.
968
00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:32,095
Zak: For no reason whatsoever,
as we are all downstairs
969
00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:34,030
and closing out
this investigation,
970
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:35,665
I lunge at aaron's camera
971
00:40:35,667 --> 00:40:38,835
and literally throw it
to the ground.
972
00:40:38,837 --> 00:40:39,903
Aaron: Oh, god.
973
00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:41,204
Zak: Are you okay?
974
00:40:44,476 --> 00:40:45,975
You getting angry?
Hmm?
975
00:40:45,977 --> 00:40:47,477
Are you getting angry?
Yeah, I did for a minute.
976
00:40:47,479 --> 00:40:49,546
I know.
I can feel it, man.
977
00:40:49,548 --> 00:40:51,581
This is the first bit
of rage that I got.
978
00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:54,417
And it was weird, and he knew
that it jumped in me,
979
00:40:54,419 --> 00:40:56,786
and I went over there and
literally grabbed aaron's camera
980
00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:58,188
and slammed it
to the ground.
981
00:40:58,190 --> 00:41:00,256
Aaron: It's probably the
darkest energy there's
982
00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:02,225
desperate way to get
everybody out, thinking,
983
00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:04,994
"oh, he's gonna flip out, and
just everyone's gonna leave."
984
00:41:04,996 --> 00:41:08,064
I know you enough
to know your energy.
985
00:41:10,035 --> 00:41:11,100
I'm just gonna stand
over here.
986
00:41:11,102 --> 00:41:12,302
Billy: He's fired up.
987
00:41:12,304 --> 00:41:14,037
Yeah.
Zak: Yeah,
I can feel it, too.
988
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:22,445
♪♪
989
00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:25,181
as we depart with a cleansing
to the spirits here...
990
00:41:25,183 --> 00:41:26,783
These prayers
are for you.
991
00:41:26,785 --> 00:41:29,686
...We won't ever forget the pain
that will last forever.
992
00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:32,956
Billy: I hope that we brought
closure and helped this family,
993
00:41:32,958 --> 00:41:35,258
and to michael so that
he was able to cross over...
994
00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:36,493
Aaron: I think we did.
...And go
to where he needs to
995
00:41:36,495 --> 00:41:37,827
and not be stuck.
996
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:39,429
And all family need that.
You need to stay positive.
997
00:41:39,431 --> 00:41:41,030
We did what we could.
998
00:41:41,032 --> 00:41:43,099
Emotionally,
it took a lot out of us.
999
00:41:43,101 --> 00:41:44,567
Going in there,
and doing what we do
1000
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:45,869
and trying to
communicate with it,
1001
00:41:45,871 --> 00:41:47,003
and trying to combat it,
1002
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:48,538
that's putting us
on the front line
1003
00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:51,574
for something that's extremely
dangerous, as well.
1004
00:41:51,576 --> 00:41:55,311
So our tears turned
to caution in the end,
1005
00:41:55,313 --> 00:41:56,412
and I hope they're doing well.
1006
00:41:56,414 --> 00:41:57,747
Me, too.
1007
00:41:57,749 --> 00:41:59,782
And on that, I think we should
follow up with them.
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