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>>> On this episode of "death
row stories" a triple murder of
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row stories" a triple murder of
unmanageable brutality.
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Unmanageable brutality.
>> This is the one case that
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>> this is the one case that
truly screams out for the death
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truly screams out for the death
penalty.
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Penalty.
>> A soldier who can't convince
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>> a soldier who can't convince
his own lawyer until the
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his own lawyer until the
prosecution's case falls apart.
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Prosecution's case falls apart.
>> The state's primary witness
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>> the state's primary witness
said, I feel like I'm sending an
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said, I feel like I'm sending an
innocent man to prison.
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Innocent man to prison.
>> And a shocking twist makes
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>> and a shocking twist makes
legal history.
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Legal history.
>> Take a deep seat.
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>> Take a deep seat.
They've got something to tell
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they've got something to tell
you.
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You.
>> There's a body in the water.
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>> There's a body in the water.
>> He was butchered and
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>> he was butchered and
murdered.
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Murdered.
Many people proclaim their
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many people proclaim their
innocence.
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Innocence.
>> In this case there are a
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>> in this case there are a
number of things that stink.
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Number of things that stink.
>> This man is remorseless.
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>> This man is remorseless.
>> He needs to pay for it with
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>> he needs to pay for it with
his life.
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His life.
>> The electric chair flashed in
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>> the electric chair flashed in
front of my eyes.
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Front of my eyes.
>> Get a conviction at all
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>> get a conviction at all
costs.
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Costs.
Let the truth fall where it may.
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Let the truth fall where it may.
>> Mother's day 1985, it was a
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>> mother's day 1985, it was a
beautiful morning in Faye
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beautiful morning in Faye
fayettev
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fayettev
fayetteville, north Carolina.
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Fayetteville, north Carolina.
>> The dogwoods are blooming.
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>> The dogwoods are blooming.
Rolling hills.
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Rolling hills.
Neighbors know each other.
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Neighbors know each other.
Of course, they're all military
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of course, they're all military
families.
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Families.
It's within a mile of the ft.
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It's within a mile of the ft.
Bragg base itself.
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Bragg base itself.
>> But on summer hill road
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>> but on summer hill road
something seemed amiss at the
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something seemed amiss at the
home of the eastburn family.
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Home of the eastburn family.
>> Neighbor noticed that the
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>> neighbor noticed that the
newspapers in their driveway
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newspapers in their driveway
were piling up.
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Were piling up.
He knew that her husband was out
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he knew that her husband was out
of town, so that naturally
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of town, so that naturally
raises curiosity.
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Raises curiosity.
He went and peeped in the window
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he went and peeped in the window
and heard the baby crying.
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And heard the baby crying.
And then he called the
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and then he called the
authorities.
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Authorities.
>> I received a call from the
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>> I received a call from the
dispatch of homicide on summer
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dispatch of homicide on summer
hill road.
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Hill road.
When I got there there was one
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when I got there there was one
deputy who had been in the
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deputy who had been in the
building.
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Building.
He was kind of holding his hat
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he was kind of holding his hat
down and shaking his head.
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Down and shaking his head.
He said, I don't understand
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he said, I don't understand
this.
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This.
>> The baby was taken to safety,
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>> the baby was taken to safety,
and detective biddle and his
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and detective biddle and his
partner entered the house.
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Partner entered the house.
>> As we went down the hallway
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>> as we went down the hallway
on the bedroom on the left-hand
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on the bedroom on the left-hand
side the first daughter was in
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side the first daughter was in
there and she was in the first
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there and she was in the first
grade.
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Grade.
She was still in bed, and she
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she was still in bed, and she
had a "star wars" blanket pulled
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had a "star wars" blanket pulled
up around her neck.
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Up around her neck.
And she was stabbed ten times.
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And she was stabbed ten times.
You could see the stab wounds
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you could see the stab wounds
through the blanket.
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Through the blanket.
We went further to the master
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we went further to the master
bedroom.
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Bedroom.
The youngest child was laying
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the youngest child was laying
there.
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There.
She was on her back.
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She was on her back.
Her throat had been cut, almost
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her throat had been cut, almost
decapitated.
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Decapitated.
And on the right-hand side
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and on the right-hand side
facing the bed was the mother.
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Facing the bed was the mother.
The bra was up around her neck.
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The bra was up around her neck.
Her panties had been cut off
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her panties had been cut off
her.
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Her.
She had 14 stab wounds.
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She had 14 stab wounds.
>> The victims were Katie
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>> the victims were Katie
eastburn, age 32, Kara, age 5,
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eastburn, age 32, Kara, age 5,
and Erin, age 3.
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And Erin, age 3.
>> For so long after that
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>> for so long after that
homicide I could close my eyes
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homicide I could close my eyes
at night and I could see those
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at night and I could see those
children.
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Children.
>> Katie eastburn's husband Gary
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>> Katie eastburn's husband Gary
was an air force captain.
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Was an air force captain.
He rushed back from training in
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he rushed back from training in
Alabama.
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Alabama.
>> It's hard to explain.
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>> It's hard to explain.
The world stops.
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The world stops.
>> You look in his eyes, there
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>> you look in his eyes, there
was a void there.
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Was a void there.
Tears your heart out.
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Tears your heart out.
But you have to gather yourself
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but you have to gather yourself
because you have a job to do.
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Because you have a job to do.
We're going to find out who did
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we're going to find out who did
this.
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This.
>> There was evidence all over
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>> there was evidence all over
that house.
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That house.
They found a head hair in Mrs.
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They found a head hair in Mrs.
eastburn's bed, head hair on
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eastburn's bed, head hair on
Kara's chest, pubic hair at the
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Kara's chest, pubic hair at the
scene of the rape, food prints,
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scene of the rape, food prints,
semen sample.
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Semen sample.
They were certain that physical
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they were certain that physical
evidence would lead to whoever
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evidence would lead to whoever
killed this family.
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Killed this family.
>> After walking through the
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>> after walking through the
house, Gary eastburn also
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house, Gary eastburn also
provided a tantalizing --
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provided a tantalizing --
>> they were going to move to
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>> they were going to move to
england when captain eastburn
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england when captain eastburn
got done training in Alabama.
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Got done training in Alabama.
The family decided to sell their
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the family decided to sell their
dog.
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Dog.
So they put an ad out in their
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so they put an ad out in their
local ft. Bragg beat and Katie
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local ft. Bragg beat and Katie
eastburn wrote a letter saying a
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eastburn wrote a letter saying a
nice man came out Tuesday night
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nice man came out Tuesday night
and got the dog.
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And got the dog.
>> We had no idea who it was but
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>> we had no idea who it was but
anybody we knew were in the
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anybody we knew were in the
house we wanted to talk to.
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House we wanted to talk to.
>> Outside the crime scene
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>> outside the crime scene
someone approached investigators
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someone approached investigators
with critical information from
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with critical information from
the night of the murders.
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The night of the murders.
>> There was a young black male
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>> there was a young black male
named Patrick koem.
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Named Patrick koem.
He had been at his girlfriend's
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he had been at his girlfriend's
house Thursday night about 2:00
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house Thursday night about 2:00
in the morning.
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In the morning.
He saw a big white dude walking
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he saw a big white dude walking
down the driveway.
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Down the driveway.
He had blond hair, about 6'2",
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he had blond hair, about 6'2",
6'3", and he had on a members
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6'3", and he had on a members
only black jacket, a stocking
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only black jacket, a stocking
cap, and he had a mustache.
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Cap, and he had a mustache.
>> They passed on the road.
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>> They passed on the road.
This person said, I'm getting an
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this person said, I'm getting an
early start this morning me got
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early start this morning me got
into a white chevette and drove
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into a white chevette and drove
off.
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Off.
>> I took pat down to the lab
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>> I took pat down to the lab
and they did a composite.
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And they did a composite.
I said, are you sure he looked
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I said, are you sure he looked
like this?
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Like this?
This guy has a black man's nose
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this guy has a black man's nose
and droopy, lazy eye.
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And droopy, lazy eye.
He said, that's what I saw.
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He said, that's what I saw.
>> Six days after the murders
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>> six days after the murders
police put out a call for the
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police put out a call for the
man who adependopted the eastbu
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man who adependopted the eastbu
dog.
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Dog.
Army sergeant tell moth think
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army sergeant tell moth think
hennis home with his lunch with
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hennis home with his lunch with
his wife, daughter and new dog.
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His wife, daughter and new dog.
>> Hey, buddy, that's you.
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>> Hey, buddy, that's you.
They immediately packed up and
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they immediately packed up and
went to the sheriff's
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went to the sheriff's
department.
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Department.
>> As I walk into the office,
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>> as I walk into the office,
hennis is sitting there.
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Hennis is sitting there.
I stopped right in my tracks and
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I stopped right in my tracks and
I look at him and I look at that
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I look at him and I look at that
composite and I said, my
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composite and I said, my
goodness, this is our man right
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goodness, this is our man right
here.
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Here.
>> Go find Patrick and they put
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>> go find Patrick and they put
together a photo lineup and he
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together a photo lineup and he
eventually settled on number
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eventually settled on number
two, which that was Tim hennis.
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Two, which that was Tim hennis.
I said, are you sure?
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I said, are you sure?
I'm sure.
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I'm sure.
He also in the parking lot
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he also in the parking lot
picked hennis' white chevette
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picked hennis' white chevette
out and he said that's the car I
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out and he said that's the car I
saw.
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Saw.
Hennis was still in the
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hennis was still in the
sheriff's and he was
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sheriff's and he was
cooperative.
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Cooperative.
Midway through he realized he
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midway through he realized he
was becoming a suspect and he
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was becoming a suspect and he
was getting madder and madder
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was getting madder and madder
and madder.
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And madder.
>> Get that thing out of my
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>> get that thing out of my
face.
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Face.
>> He is the most arrogant human
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>> he is the most arrogant human
being I've ever seen in my life.
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Being I've ever seen in my life.
He just felt like you can't
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he just felt like you can't
touch me.
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Touch me.
Well, yes, we will touch you.
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Well, yes, we will touch you.
We reached out and touched him.
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We reached out and touched him.
>> At 1:00 A.M. sheriffs
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>> at 1:00 A.M. sheriffs
arrested Timothy hennis.
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Arrested Timothy hennis.
They charged him with rape and
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they charged him with rape and
capital murder.
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Capital murder.
He would face the death penalty.
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He would face the death penalty.
The arrest of a sergeant from
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the arrest of a sergeant from
the nation's largest army base
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the nation's largest army base
sent shockwaves through the
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sent shockwaves through the
tight knit community around ft.
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Tight knit community around ft.
Bragg.
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Bragg.
>> Most patriotic city in the
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>> most patriotic city in the
country.
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Country.
If someone is murdered out of
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if someone is murdered out of
the blue, that stir it is blood
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the blue, that stir it is blood
in Faye yitville.
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In Faye yitville.
>> Do you have any idea who
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>> do you have any idea who
would do this?
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Would do this?
>> Well, she was getting some
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>> well, she was getting some
strange phone calls.
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Strange phone calls.
>> Don't be giving no ideas.
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>> Don't be giving no ideas.
>> I ain't giving no ideas
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>> I ain't giving no ideas
about -- would ju just --
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about -- would ju just --
>> they get outraged.
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>> They get outraged.
Justice must be done.
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Justice must be done.
>> To defend their son Tim
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>> to defend their son Tim
hennis' parents hired two young
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hennis' parents hired two young
lawyers, Jerry beaver and Billy
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lawyers, Jerry beaver and Billy
richar
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richar
Richardson.
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Richardson.
>> I thought Tim was guilty as
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>> I thought Tim was guilty as
all get out.
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All get out.
I didn't particularly care for
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I didn't particularly care for
Tim, but the law school I went
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Tim, but the law school I went
to stressed the importance of
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to stressed the importance of
taking unpopular cases.
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Taking unpopular cases.
>> In the days immediately
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>> in the days immediately
afterwards the news got worse
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afterwards the news got worse
for Tim hennis.
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For Tim hennis.
He had no alibi.
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He had no alibi.
Angela hennis was out of town
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Angela hennis was out of town
all weekend.
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All weekend.
On Saturday morning he dragged a
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on Saturday morning he dragged a
barrel out in the middle of the
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barrel out in the middle of the
backyard and started burning
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backyard and started burning
stuff.
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Stuff.
Something his neighbors had
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something his neighbors had
never seen him do before.
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Never seen him do before.
>> I don't know what it was but
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>> I don't know what it was but
it was something he burned.
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It was something he burned.
>> The lady who owns the
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>> the lady who owns the
cleaners called US, he said,
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cleaners called US, he said,
that man that you all have
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that man that you all have
arrested brought a black members
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arrested brought a black members
only jacket into my cleaners
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only jacket into my cleaners
Friday.
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Friday.
Look suspicious to you.
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Look suspicious to you.
>> Katie eastburn's stolen bank
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>> Katie eastburn's stolen bank
card, used twice, on the Friday
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card, used twice, on the Friday
night and Saturday morning, $150
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night and Saturday morning, $150
each time.
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Each time.
Found hennis was late on rent to
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found hennis was late on rent to
the tune of $300 which he paid
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the tune of $300 which he paid
on Monday.
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On Monday.
>> We really thought he was
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>> we really thought he was
guilty.
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Guilty.
And there was a lot of physical
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and there was a lot of physical
evidence that was being tested
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evidence that was being tested
and if some physical evidence
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and if some physical evidence
came back to him he was dead.
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Came back to him he was dead.
So we wanted to come in ahead of
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so we wanted to come in ahead of
time and get him to plea before
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time and get him to plea before
that came out.
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That came out.
>> But to Richardson's surprise,
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>> but to Richardson's surprise,
hennis refused to consider plea
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hennis refused to consider plea
deal.
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Deal.
>> Tim said something that
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>> Tim said something that
haunted me.
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Haunted me.
He looked at US and said they
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he looked at US and said they
can test whatever they want, I
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can test whatever they want, I
was not in that house, I did not
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was not in that house, I did not
do it.
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Do it.
It's just that simple.
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It's just that simple.
>> When the lab reports with
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>> when the lab reports with
blood type footprints and
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blood type footprints and
fingerprints came back they
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fingerprints came back they
corroborated hennis' account.
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Corroborated hennis' account.
>> Physical evidence had not
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>> physical evidence had not
matched Tim hennis, none of it
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matched Tim hennis, none of it
had.
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Had.
>> Inconclusive or negative,
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>> inconclusive or negative,
inconclusive or negative.
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Inconclusive or negative.
There wasn't a shred of physical
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there wasn't a shred of physical
evidence that was linking Tim to
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evidence that was linking Tim to
the crime.
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The crime.
>> Billy's viewpoint then became
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>> Billy's viewpoint then became
he must get this man exonerated
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he must get this man exonerated
because I believed him.
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Because I believed him.
>> Someone other than my client
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>> someone other than my client
committed this crime.
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Committed this crime.
>> From that point on I was
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>> from that point on I was
totally convinced he was
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totally convinced he was
innocent.
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Innocent.
>> But even without physical
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>> but even without physical
evidence linking him to the
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evidence linking him to the
crime, Tim hennis was about to
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crime, Tim hennis was about to
go on trial for his life.
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Go on trial for his life.
>>> Before he adopted the
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>>> before he adopted the
eastburn's dog in may 1985
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eastburn's dog in may 1985
sergeant Tim hennis had a steady
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sergeant Tim hennis had a steady
job in the military and a
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job in the military and a
growing daughter he was devoted
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growing daughter he was devoted
to.
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To.
Then hennis was arrested for the
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then hennis was arrested for the
brutal murder of Katie eastburn
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brutal murder of Katie eastburn
and her two little girls, aged 5
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and her two little girls, aged 5
and 3.
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And 3.
Hennis' lawyer had come to
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hennis' lawyer had come to
believe in his innocence.
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Believe in his innocence.
>> I was totally convinced
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>> I was totally convinced
watching him interact with
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watching him interact with
Angela because they do have a
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Angela because they do have a
beautiful marriage.
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Beautiful marriage.
And watching him with his
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and watching him with his
daughter, Tim is extremely good
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daughter, Tim is extremely good
with children.
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With children.
I remember, with my children,
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I remember, with my children,
how good he was.
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How good he was.
>> Of the fingerprints, blood,
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>> of the fingerprints, blood,
and semen found at the crime
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and semen found at the crime
scene, none of it linked to
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scene, none of it linked to
hennis.
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Hennis.
>> Down here we didn't have the
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>> down here we didn't have the
equipment and facilities that
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equipment and facilities that
they had up north.
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They had up north.
We had no DNA down here when the
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we had no DNA down here when the
crime occurred.
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Crime occurred.
I would like to have had a
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I would like to have had a
fingerprint.
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Fingerprint.
He left a shoe or dropped
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he left a shoe or dropped
something that we could tie him
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something that we could tie him
to it but we thought we had
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to it but we thought we had
enough to justify the case and
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enough to justify the case and
the trial.
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The trial.
The trial began on may 27th,
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the trial began on may 27th,
1986.
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1986.
>> Everybody wanted in that
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>> everybody wanted in that
courtroom.
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Courtroom.
The bailiffs a couple times had
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the bailiffs a couple times had
to break up fistfights.
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To break up fistfights.
>> The prosecutors called it the
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>> the prosecutors called it the
sh
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sh
show.
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Show.
They wanted to emphasize how
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they wanted to emphasize how
gruesome the murder was so they
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gruesome the murder was so they
built a screen that took up the
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built a screen that took up the
whole wall and they took slides
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whole wall and they took slides
of Kara and Erin eastburn, 5 and
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of Kara and Erin eastburn, 5 and
3-year-old little girls on an
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3-year-old little girls on an
autopsy table, displayed out, no
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autopsy table, displayed out, no
clothes.
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Clothes.
>> Tim was sitting there going,
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>> Tim was sitting there going,
what do I do if he acts like
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what do I do if he acts like
it's not bothering him, he looks
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it's not bothering him, he looks
like he's cold-blooded killer
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like he's cold-blooded killer
and if he gets emotionally
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and if he gets emotionally
upset, he looks like he's
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upset, he looks like he's
expressing guilt.
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Expressing guilt.
What can he do?
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What can he do?
>> This went on for two days.
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>> This went on for two days.
Slide after slide after slide.
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Slide after slide after slide.
>> Felt like I was in a slam
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>> felt like I was in a slam
dunk competition with Michael
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dunk competition with Michael
Jordan.
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Jordan.
>> Prosecutor William vanstory
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>> prosecutor William vanstory
also told the jury that hennis'
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also told the jury that hennis'
motive had been sex.
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Motive had been sex.
>> Tim hennis' wife was out of
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>> Tim hennis' wife was out of
town, new baby, so he decided to
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town, new baby, so he decided to
make a pass at the married
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make a pass at the married
mother of three from whom he had
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mother of three from whom he had
gotten the dog.
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Gotten the dog.
That didn't go well.
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That didn't go well.
>> Hennis thinks he's a player,
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>> hennis thinks he's a player,
so Mrs. Eastburn said, no, he
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so Mrs. Eastburn said, no, he
read this wrong, I'm just a
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read this wrong, I'm just a
friendly person.
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Friendly person.
With that temper of his, he lost
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with that temper of his, he lost
it.
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It.
>> Billy Richardson showed the
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>> Billy Richardson showed the
lack of evidence to the jury but
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lack of evidence to the jury but
the prosecutors argued the
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the prosecutors argued the
absence of blood on his jacket
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absence of blood on his jacket
was the guilt.
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Was the guilt.
>> There was no blood because he
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>> there was no blood because he
took the jacket to the
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took the jacket to the
dry-cleaners.
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Dry-cleaners.
>> The jacket was a damning
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>> the jacket was a damning
piece of evidence.
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Piece of evidence.
>> Richardson also undercut
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>> Richardson also undercut
eyewitness pat cone who ID'd
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eyewitness pat cone who ID'd
hennis leaving the home.
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Hennis leaving the home.
They videotaped pat cone during
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they videotaped pat cone during
the tour of the crime scene.
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The tour of the crime scene.
>> When you start listening to
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>> when you start listening to
his story he's all over the
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his story he's all over the
place.
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Place.
>> Bought my girlfriend some
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>> bought my girlfriend some
roses.
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Roses.
>> You bought her some Rose on
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>> you bought her some Rose on
sunday?
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Sunday?
>> No, it wasn't roses candy.
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>> No, it wasn't roses candy.
Candy.
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Candy.
Not roses.
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Not roses.
>> We started asking are you
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>> we started asking are you
sure about this?
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Sure about this?
He said, now I'm out here
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he said, now I'm out here
looking at it, you're right, I
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looking at it, you're right, I
probably couldn't see all this.
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Probably couldn't see all this.
>> No, no, no, no, no, I can't
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>> no, no, no, no, no, I can't
say that.
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Say that.
>> On the witness stand cone
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>> on the witness stand cone
cast aside any doubts.
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Cast aside any doubts.
>> Cone said these lawyers have
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>> cone said these lawyers have
been tricking me, they've been
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been tricking me, they've been
pressuring me.
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Pressuring me.
I know I picked out the right
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I know I picked out the right
guy.
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Guy.
>> Finally prosecutors presented
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>> finally prosecutors presented
a surprise witness, a woman who
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a surprise witness, a woman who
said that two days after the
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said that two days after the
murder she had seen the killer
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murder she had seen the killer
using Katie eastburn's stolen
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using Katie eastburn's stolen
bank card.
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Bank card.
>> All of a sudden the state
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>> all of a sudden the state
introduced Lucille cook, little
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introduced Lucille cook, little
old lady.
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Old lady.
Used a card on Saturday morning
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used a card on Saturday morning
after the killer did.
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After the killer did.
>> She had told US she couldn't
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>> she had told US she couldn't
remember.
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Remember.
She said, I didn't tell you the
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she said, I didn't tell you the
truth the first time.
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Truth the first time.
>> There was a big tall white
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>> there was a big tall white
man, mustache, blond headed guy
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man, mustache, blond headed guy
and he got in that tiny car.
454
00:13:55,150 --> 00:13:56,350
And he got in that tiny car.
>> That was the man that used
455
00:13:56,350 --> 00:13:58,180
>> that was the man that used
the car right before I did.
456
00:13:58,190 --> 00:13:59,090
The car right before I did.
Pointed to Tim hennis.
457
00:13:59,090 --> 00:14:01,550
Pointed to Tim hennis.
The jury is sitting there
458
00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,260
the jury is sitting there
looking at her.
459
00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:04,690
Looking at her.
After she testified, I went into
460
00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:08,390
after she testified, I went into
the bathroom and just threw up.
461
00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,700
The bathroom and just threw up.
>> The jury deliberated for
462
00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:12,430
>> the jury deliberated for
three days.
463
00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,580
Three days.
>> It was a quarter of 5:00 on a
464
00:14:14,570 --> 00:14:17,670
>> it was a quarter of 5:00 on a
Friday afternoon and the jury
465
00:14:17,670 --> 00:14:17,900
Friday afternoon and the jury
knocked.
466
00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:21,270
Knocked.
He was guilty on three counts.
467
00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:26,210
He was guilty on three counts.
He would get death penalty,
468
00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:27,290
he would get death penalty,
times three.
469
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,450
Times three.
Tim hennis could hear his father
470
00:14:29,450 --> 00:14:30,280
Tim hennis could hear his father
sobbing in the courtroom.
471
00:14:30,290 --> 00:14:31,720
Sobbing in the courtroom.
He had never heard that before.
472
00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,620
He had never heard that before.
>> When that jury said he's
473
00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:35,120
>> when that jury said he's
guilty, you still had faith that
474
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,620
guilty, you still had faith that
he was telling the truth?
475
00:14:36,630 --> 00:14:38,420
He was telling the truth?
>> Always.
476
00:14:38,430 --> 00:14:38,830
>> Always.
Never once.
477
00:14:38,830 --> 00:14:39,990
Never once.
>> Not a doubt in your mind?
478
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,960
>> Not a doubt in your mind?
>> No.
479
00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:45,160
>> No.
Never.
480
00:14:45,170 --> 00:14:46,500
Never.
>> That time I felt like I did
481
00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:49,070
>> that time I felt like I did
what for god, I got our man and
482
00:14:49,070 --> 00:14:49,700
what for god, I got our man and
it felt good.
483
00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:52,180
It felt good.
This is the one case that truly
484
00:14:52,170 --> 00:14:53,040
this is the one case that truly
screamed out for the death
485
00:14:53,040 --> 00:15:02,350
screamed out for the death
penalty.
486
00:15:02,350 --> 00:15:04,120
Penalty.
>> Tim hennis had spent his
487
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,790
>> Tim hennis had spent his
entire career serving the
488
00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:07,050
entire career serving the
military.
489
00:15:07,060 --> 00:15:11,190
Military.
Now he was serving time on death
490
00:15:11,190 --> 00:15:11,490
now he was serving time on death
row.
491
00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:14,160
Row.
But not long after his arrival
492
00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,930
but not long after his arrival
hennis received a mysterious
493
00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:15,160
hennis received a mysterious
letter.
494
00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,600
Letter.
>> Said, Mr. Hennis, I did the
495
00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:17,830
>> said, Mr. Hennis, I did the
crime.
496
00:15:17,830 --> 00:15:21,900
Crime.
You're doing the time.
497
00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:22,540
You're doing the time.
Mr. X.
498
00:15:22,540 --> 00:15:25,240
Mr. X.
>> The letter provided no
499
00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040
>> the letter provided no
concrete leads, only adding to
500
00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,910
concrete leads, only adding to
hennis' torment.
501
00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:30,940
Hennis' torment.
>> He got visits from his family
502
00:15:30,950 --> 00:15:33,310
>> he got visits from his family
and his daughter is now 2 1/2
503
00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,250
and his daughter is now 2 1/2
years old.
504
00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:35,950
Years old.
And she would bang her hands on
505
00:15:35,950 --> 00:15:38,520
and she would bang her hands on
the plexiglas and say, open it,
506
00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,120
the plexiglas and say, open it,
daddy, open it.
507
00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,060
Daddy, open it.
Why won't it open?
508
00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:45,160
Why won't it open?
>> Billy Richardson felt
509
00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,390
>> Billy Richardson felt
responsible for his client's
510
00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,530
responsible for his client's
predicam
511
00:15:48,530 --> 00:15:48,860
predicam
predicament.
512
00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:49,960
Predicament.
>> We did not do as good a job
513
00:15:49,970 --> 00:15:51,300
>> we did not do as good a job
as we were capable of doing.
514
00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:53,330
As we were capable of doing.
I made up my mind then and there
515
00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:54,600
I made up my mind then and there
I was going to become the lawyer
516
00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,440
I was going to become the lawyer
I was supposed to be.
517
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,640
I was supposed to be.
I got off my butt and went to
518
00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,870
I got off my butt and went to
work.
519
00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,950
Work.
>> Richardson and his partner
520
00:16:01,940 --> 00:16:04,440
>> Richardson and his partner
quickly filed an appeal to the
521
00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:05,040
quickly filed an appeal to the
north Carolina supreme court.
522
00:16:05,050 --> 00:16:07,750
North Carolina supreme court.
They had to decide what to
523
00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:09,580
they had to decide what to
emphasize, from mishandling
524
00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:10,260
emphasize, from mishandling
evidence to possible perjury.
525
00:16:10,250 --> 00:16:14,220
Evidence to possible perjury.
>> They quickly settled on the
526
00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:14,520
>> they quickly settled on the
photographs.
527
00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,920
Photographs.
>> That presentation was thought
528
00:16:15,930 --> 00:16:18,740
>> that presentation was thought
to have riled up the jury and it
529
00:16:18,730 --> 00:16:20,730
to have riled up the jury and it
was pointed at him over and
530
00:16:20,730 --> 00:16:20,930
was pointed at him over and
over.
531
00:16:20,930 --> 00:16:21,830
Over.
See this picture?
532
00:16:21,830 --> 00:16:22,700
See this picture?
He did it.
533
00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:23,700
He did it.
See this picture?
534
00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,000
See this picture?
He did it.
535
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,730
He did it.
>> Our state supreme court
536
00:16:26,740 --> 00:16:28,700
>> our state supreme court
didn't just read the appeal
537
00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,170
didn't just read the appeal
briefs, they got a slide
538
00:16:30,170 --> 00:16:31,670
briefs, they got a slide
projector and saw the show for
539
00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:31,970
projector and saw the show for
themselves.
540
00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:34,470
Themselves.
And within 22 days, they said,
541
00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,940
and within 22 days, they said,
let's give him another trial.
542
00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:38,380
Let's give him another trial.
>> It just broke all of our
543
00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:39,850
>> it just broke all of our
hearts because we had to
544
00:16:39,850 --> 00:16:41,880
hearts because we had to
calgary, say, you've got to go
545
00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,080
calgary, say, you've got to go
through this one more time.
546
00:16:43,090 --> 00:16:44,890
Through this one more time.
>> Billy Richardson
547
00:16:44,890 --> 00:16:46,620
>> Billy Richardson
reinvestigated every aspect of
548
00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:47,450
reinvestigated every aspect of
the case.
549
00:16:47,460 --> 00:16:48,990
The case.
>> We were so much better
550
00:16:48,990 --> 00:16:50,760
>> we were so much better
prepared for the second trial.
551
00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,330
Prepared for the second trial.
When I started digging, we found
552
00:16:53,330 --> 00:16:55,060
when I started digging, we found
how many things we didn't know
553
00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:56,000
how many things we didn't know
at the first trial.
554
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,300
At the first trial.
>> Richardson began with hennis'
555
00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,600
>> Richardson began with hennis'
alibi for the night after the
556
00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:01,830
alibi for the night after the
murder.
557
00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,000
Murder.
When someone used eastburn's
558
00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:05,300
when someone used eastburn's
bank card.
559
00:17:05,310 --> 00:17:08,780
Bank card.
>> He had 24-hour duty with ft.
560
00:17:08,780 --> 00:17:10,510
>> He had 24-hour duty with ft.
Bragg for his duty, he couldn't
561
00:17:10,510 --> 00:17:10,710
bragg for his duty, he couldn't
leave.
562
00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:12,650
Leave.
>> People in his division
563
00:17:12,650 --> 00:17:13,910
>> people in his division
remembered him gluing shingles
564
00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,480
remembered him gluing shingles
on a doll house for his infant
565
00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:16,760
on a doll house for his infant
daughter.
566
00:17:16,750 --> 00:17:18,920
Daughter.
>> Army paperwork would have
567
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,220
>> army paperwork would have
confirmed hennis' whereabouts
568
00:17:21,220 --> 00:17:21,820
confirmed hennis' whereabouts
had gone missing before the
569
00:17:21,820 --> 00:17:22,360
had gone missing before the
first trial.
570
00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:23,820
First trial.
>> Army, paperwork is
571
00:17:23,830 --> 00:17:24,120
>> army, paperwork is
everything.
572
00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:25,460
Everything.
They have paperwork for
573
00:17:25,460 --> 00:17:25,830
they have paperwork for
paperwork.
574
00:17:25,830 --> 00:17:27,430
Paperwork.
We look for it and look for it.
575
00:17:27,430 --> 00:17:29,230
We look for it and look for it.
There was a checkout sheet for
576
00:17:29,230 --> 00:17:30,230
there was a checkout sheet for
every day but that day.
577
00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:32,630
Every day but that day.
The prosecutor had a field day.
578
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,910
The prosecutor had a field day.
>> But before the second trial,
579
00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:36,570
>> but before the second trial,
Richardson discovered why the
580
00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:37,970
Richardson discovered why the
paperwork had gone missing.
581
00:17:37,970 --> 00:17:39,240
Paperwork had gone missing.
>> The reason they couldn't find
582
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,610
>> the reason they couldn't find
it is because the prosecutors
583
00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:41,170
it is because the prosecutors
had it.
584
00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:43,740
Had it.
They didn't make a copy of it
585
00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:45,240
they didn't make a copy of it
and leave it, they just took it.
586
00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:46,910
And leave it, they just took it.
So this piece of evidence that
587
00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,510
so this piece of evidence that
probably would have exonerated
588
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,020
probably would have exonerated
him in 1986 was kept in the
589
00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:53,590
him in 1986 was kept in the
prosecutor's custody all that
590
00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:54,090
prosecutor's custody all that
time.
591
00:17:54,090 --> 00:17:56,290
Time.
>> Richardson also uncovered
592
00:17:56,290 --> 00:17:58,390
>> Richardson also uncovered
information that would undermine
593
00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:59,090
information that would undermine
eyewitness pat cone.
594
00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:00,900
Eyewitness pat cone.
>> Pat cone had helped them out
595
00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:01,990
>> pat cone had helped them out
in between trials.
596
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,730
In between trials.
He was arrested using a stolen
597
00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:05,230
he was arrested using a stolen
bank card.
598
00:18:05,230 --> 00:18:06,870
Bank card.
On another occasion, Patrick
599
00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:09,070
on another occasion, Patrick
cone was drinking and disruptive
600
00:18:09,070 --> 00:18:11,670
cone was drinking and disruptive
and the state dropped the case.
601
00:18:11,670 --> 00:18:14,270
And the state dropped the case.
He was known to tell people that
602
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,610
he was known to tell people that
the state couldn't touch him
603
00:18:15,610 --> 00:18:17,810
the state couldn't touch him
because he was a prime witness.
604
00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:20,210
Because he was a prime witness.
>> Pat is not a strong-willed
605
00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:20,450
>> pat is not a strong-willed
person.
606
00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:21,450
Person.
Nice guy.
607
00:18:21,450 --> 00:18:22,320
Nice guy.
Don't misunderstand me.
608
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,280
Don't misunderstand me.
But he got in a little bit of
609
00:18:24,290 --> 00:18:24,520
but he got in a little bit of
trouble.
610
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,520
Trouble.
They were just minor things.
611
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,650
They were just minor things.
>> Still, Richardson wasn't sure
612
00:18:27,660 --> 00:18:29,490
>> still, Richardson wasn't sure
he could convince the jury that
613
00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:31,860
he could convince the jury that
cone had lied about seeing
614
00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:34,290
cone had lied about seeing
hennis, until a new piece of
615
00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:35,190
hennis, until a new piece of
evidence was found literally
616
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:45,140
evidence was found literally
lying on the sidewalk.
617
00:18:45,140 --> 00:18:48,770
Lying on the sidewalk.
>>> As defense attorney Billy
618
00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:49,610
>>> as defense attorney Billy
Richardson prepared for the
619
00:18:49,610 --> 00:18:51,240
Richardson prepared for the
retrial of Tim hennis new
620
00:18:51,250 --> 00:18:52,750
retrial of Tim hennis new
evidence turned up on a
621
00:18:52,750 --> 00:18:53,250
evidence turned up on a
fayetteville sidewalk.
622
00:18:53,250 --> 00:18:54,910
Fayetteville sidewalk.
>> The deputy picked up the
623
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,280
>> the deputy picked up the
wallet noted that it had a
624
00:18:57,290 --> 00:18:58,650
wallet noted that it had a
letter in it.
625
00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:00,090
Letter in it.
And we kept hearing that the
626
00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:01,320
and we kept hearing that the
letter said Tim didn't do it.
627
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,060
Letter said Tim didn't do it.
You keep hearing rumors like
628
00:19:03,060 --> 00:19:03,290
you keep hearing rumors like
that.
629
00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:05,320
That.
>> Billy goes to the sheriff's
630
00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:07,560
>> Billy goes to the sheriff's
department and has to pretend
631
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,560
department and has to pretend
he's investigating another case
632
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,630
he's investigating another case
because if he let on he was
633
00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:11,630
because if he let on he was
investigating this case it would
634
00:19:11,630 --> 00:19:13,070
investigating this case it would
have set off all kinds of bells
635
00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:14,370
have set off all kinds of bells
and whistles.
636
00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,540
And whistles.
>> Sure enough the lost wallet
637
00:19:16,540 --> 00:19:18,500
>> sure enough the lost wallet
belonged to a felony.
638
00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:19,870
Belonged to a felony.
>> Shawn Buckner was a close
639
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,820
>> Shawn Buckner was a close
friend of pat cone.
640
00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:22,310
Friend of pat cone.
The prosecutor's star witness.
641
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:25,750
The prosecutor's star witness.
The letter and Buckner's lost
642
00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:27,350
the letter and Buckner's lost
wallet called cone's testimony
643
00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:27,710
wallet called cone's testimony
into question.
644
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,180
Into question.
>> That letter talks about pat's
645
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:31,450
>> that letter talks about pat's
doubts.
646
00:19:31,450 --> 00:19:34,220
Doubts.
Pat kind of hoped Shawn Buckner
647
00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:39,660
pat kind of hoped Shawn Buckner
and his fiance about his doubts
648
00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:40,290
and his fiance about his doubts
to the point where they wrote
649
00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:42,560
to the point where they wrote
each other a letter about it.
650
00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:43,510
Each other a letter about it.
>> Richardson flew to Louisiana
651
00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:46,000
>> Richardson flew to Louisiana
where Buckner was training in
652
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,530
where Buckner was training in
the air force when he got there
653
00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:50,040
the air force when he got there
Buckner closed the door on his
654
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,240
Buckner closed the door on his
face.
655
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,540
Face.
>> He didn't want to get
656
00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:51,800
>> he didn't want to get
involved.
657
00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:54,270
Involved.
>> Shawn Buckner didn't know
658
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,410
>> Shawn Buckner didn't know
whether to betray his friend or
659
00:19:56,410 --> 00:19:57,240
whether to betray his friend or
help free someone.
660
00:19:57,250 --> 00:19:58,540
Help free someone.
It was a tough one.
661
00:19:58,550 --> 00:20:00,410
It was a tough one.
Shawn Buckner had no reason to
662
00:20:00,420 --> 00:20:01,280
Shawn Buckner had no reason to
help Tim hennis.
663
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,120
Help Tim hennis.
>> Richardson came home empty
664
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,220
>> Richardson came home empty
handed, hoping Buckner would
665
00:20:06,220 --> 00:20:10,290
handed, hoping Buckner would
eventually change his mind.
666
00:20:10,290 --> 00:20:12,860
Eventually change his mind.
The retrial of Timothy hennis
667
00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:16,200
the retrial of Timothy hennis
began on February 27th, 1989.
668
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,300
Began on February 27th, 1989.
Almost four years after the
669
00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:20,000
almost four years after the
brutal murders of Gary
670
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,770
brutal murders of Gary
eastburn's wife and daughters.
671
00:20:21,770 --> 00:20:23,940
Eastburn's wife and daughters.
>> The state went into a replay
672
00:20:23,940 --> 00:20:24,800
>> the state went into a replay
of trial one.
673
00:20:24,810 --> 00:20:26,610
Of trial one.
Meanwhile the defense had an
674
00:20:26,610 --> 00:20:27,470
meanwhile the defense had an
entirery different case.
675
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,510
Entirery different case.
>> This time hennis would
676
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:29,780
>> this time hennis would
testify.
677
00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:32,080
Testify.
>> We just really drill him.
678
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,680
>> We just really drill him.
Filmed him and let him watch it.
679
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,050
Filmed him and let him watch it.
>> Did you kill these three
680
00:20:37,050 --> 00:20:37,280
>> did you kill these three
people?
681
00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:39,490
People?
>> No, I did not kill these
682
00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:39,720
>> no, I did not kill these
people.
683
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,750
People.
I have a daughter of my own and
684
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,390
I have a daughter of my own and
I could not hurt any children at
685
00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:43,560
I could not hurt any children at
all.
686
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,090
All.
>> Did you do this crime?
687
00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:47,090
>> Did you do this crime?
>> No, I did not.
688
00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,200
>> No, I did not.
>> We felt if Tim showed rage or
689
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,030
>> we felt if Tim showed rage or
emotion the jury would say,
690
00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:52,430
emotion the jury would say,
look, there you can see he can
691
00:20:52,430 --> 00:20:53,270
look, there you can see he can
get to this point.
692
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:54,630
Get to this point.
>> How does all of this make you
693
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,030
>> how does all of this make you
feel if.
694
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,300
Feel if.
>> Extremely upset and angry.
695
00:20:58,310 --> 00:21:00,270
>> Extremely upset and angry.
>> On cross-examination the
696
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,410
>> on cross-examination the
prosecutor confronted hennis
697
00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:03,610
prosecutor confronted hennis
with the alleged motive for the
698
00:21:03,610 --> 00:21:03,840
with the alleged motive for the
murder.
699
00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:05,850
Murder.
>> The prosecutor says, you lost
700
00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:06,650
>> the prosecutor says, you lost
your cool.
701
00:21:06,650 --> 00:21:07,980
Your cool.
And went in there and tried to
702
00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:10,020
and went in there and tried to
have sex with her and when she
703
00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:11,980
have sex with her and when she
refused, you snapped and killed
704
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:12,150
refused, you snapped and killed
her.
705
00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:14,350
Her.
>> They were trying to provoke
706
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:16,590
>> they were trying to provoke
Tim hennis on the stand and he
707
00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:18,190
Tim hennis on the stand and he
had to call me, no, I did not.
708
00:21:18,190 --> 00:21:18,790
Had to call me, no, I did not.
No, I did not.
709
00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:20,730
No, I did not.
He said, I never had sex with
710
00:21:20,730 --> 00:21:21,560
he said, I never had sex with
that woman.
711
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,560
That woman.
That never happened.
712
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,160
That never happened.
>> When it was over we had not
713
00:21:24,170 --> 00:21:25,870
>> when it was over we had not
got the reaction I wanted to.
714
00:21:25,870 --> 00:21:27,270
Got the reaction I wanted to.
See him in a different light
715
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:28,800
see him in a different light
than first jury had seen him.
716
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,070
Than first jury had seen him.
Made a huge difference.
717
00:21:31,070 --> 00:21:32,100
Made a huge difference.
>> At the first trial the
718
00:21:32,110 --> 00:21:33,870
>> at the first trial the
absence of blood on hennis'
719
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,080
absence of blood on hennis'
jacket had helped convict him as
720
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,540
jacket had helped convict him as
the state's expert insisted
721
00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:40,150
the state's expert insisted
dry-cleaning had removed any
722
00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:40,880
dry-cleaning had removed any
blood stains.
723
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,820
Blood stains.
But Richardson saw it
724
00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:43,120
but Richardson saw it
differently.
725
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,780
Differently.
>> I talked to the dry-cleaner
726
00:21:44,790 --> 00:21:46,720
>> I talked to the dry-cleaner
and he said you have to use a
727
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,550
and he said you have to use a
special chemical to remove
728
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:48,750
special chemical to remove
blood.
729
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,320
Blood.
I said, well, did you use it in
730
00:21:50,330 --> 00:21:50,820
I said, well, did you use it in
this case?
731
00:21:50,830 --> 00:21:52,930
This case?
He said, no.
732
00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:53,930
He said, no.
I just used ordinary
733
00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:54,260
I just used ordinary
dry-cleaning.
734
00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:55,160
Dry-cleaning.
>> When the prosecution
735
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,930
>> when the prosecution
challenged the dry-cleaner's
736
00:21:56,930 --> 00:21:59,030
challenged the dry-cleaner's
knowledge, Richardson was ready
737
00:21:59,030 --> 00:21:59,900
knowledge, Richardson was ready
with his own expert.
738
00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:01,970
With his own expert.
>> The chemist got a members
739
00:22:01,970 --> 00:22:03,500
>> the chemist got a members
only jacket.
740
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:04,680
Only jacket.
Put some blood on it and took
741
00:22:04,670 --> 00:22:07,440
put some blood on it and took
the jacket to a dry-cleaner and
742
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,970
the jacket to a dry-cleaner and
ran a luminol test on the jacket
743
00:22:08,980 --> 00:22:10,710
ran a luminol test on the jacket
and it gloed as bright as can
744
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:12,040
and it gloed as bright as can
be, still there.
745
00:22:12,050 --> 00:22:14,350
Be, still there.
>> Hennis' members only jacket
746
00:22:14,350 --> 00:22:15,050
>> hennis' members only jacket
on the other hand had no signs
747
00:22:15,050 --> 00:22:16,020
on the other hand had no signs
of blood.
748
00:22:16,020 --> 00:22:18,420
Of blood.
Richardson had turned the
749
00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,120
Richardson had turned the
prosecution's evidence against
750
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:20,820
prosecution's evidence against
them.
751
00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:23,690
Them.
Richardson was also prepared for
752
00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:25,560
Richardson was also prepared for
Lucille cook who swoer she saw
753
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,590
Lucille cook who swoer she saw
hennis at an atm two days after
754
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:28,890
hennis at an atm two days after
the murder.
755
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:32,300
The murder.
>> Lucille cook had made dozens
756
00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:34,270
>> Lucille cook had made dozens
and dozens of atm transactions
757
00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:35,570
and dozens of atm transactions
around the time of this one.
758
00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:37,040
Around the time of this one.
I asked her, can you remember
759
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:37,740
I asked her, can you remember
any of those?
760
00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:38,700
Any of those?
Of course she could not.
761
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:40,940
Of course she could not.
>> Bank logs also showed a 3 1/2
762
00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:42,340
>> bank logs also showed a 3 1/2
minute gap between the victim's
763
00:22:42,340 --> 00:22:45,180
minute gap between the victim's
card being used and Lucille
764
00:22:45,180 --> 00:22:45,680
card being used and Lucille
cook's transaction.
765
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,750
Cook's transaction.
>> That doesn't seem like a lot
766
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:49,680
>> that doesn't seem like a lot
of time until you sit there and
767
00:22:49,690 --> 00:22:50,290
of time until you sit there and
time it.
768
00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:53,460
Time it.
We had the jury sit there to see
769
00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:58,730
we had the jury sit there to see
how long it was.
770
00:22:58,730 --> 00:23:03,360
How long it was.
>> It was the longest 3 1/2
771
00:23:03,370 --> 00:23:03,610
>> it was the longest 3 1/2
minutes.
772
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,030
Minutes.
>> Why would the killer wait
773
00:23:05,030 --> 00:23:08,230
>> why would the killer wait
3 1/2 minutes until someone sees
774
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,400
3 1/2 minutes until someone sees
him?
775
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,770
Him?
One of the jurors said they got
776
00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:13,840
one of the jurors said they got
in the jury room and laughed at
777
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,040
in the jury room and laughed at
her.
778
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,910
Her.
>> Now it was time for rich
779
00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:15,980
>> now it was time for rich
Richardson to go after the
780
00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:18,810
Richardson to go after the
state's star witness, pat cone.
781
00:23:18,810 --> 00:23:21,350
State's star witness, pat cone.
After some soul searching, Shawn
782
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:22,650
after some soul searching, Shawn
Buckner agreed to testify
783
00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:24,620
Buckner agreed to testify
against his old friend.
784
00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:26,620
Against his old friend.
>> He testified that pat cone
785
00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:28,320
>> he testified that pat cone
was extremely drunk that night,
786
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,920
was extremely drunk that night,
that in addition to that he had
787
00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:31,500
that in addition to that he had
doubts about what he saw.
788
00:23:31,490 --> 00:23:34,060
Doubts about what he saw.
>> Patrick had told Shawn
789
00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:35,290
>> Patrick had told Shawn
Buckner, I feel like I'm sending
790
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:36,760
Buckner, I feel like I'm sending
an innocent man to prison.
791
00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:38,740
An innocent man to prison.
>> But Richardson knew he had to
792
00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:40,600
>> but Richardson knew he had to
answer one last question.
793
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,970
Answer one last question.
>> In the back of their mind,
794
00:23:41,970 --> 00:23:43,540
>> in the back of their mind,
the jury still saying, well, the
795
00:23:43,540 --> 00:23:44,100
the jury still saying, well, the
kids saw something.
796
00:23:44,110 --> 00:23:45,640
Kids saw something.
If it wasn't your client, who
797
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,040
if it wasn't your client, who
was it?
798
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,810
Was it?
>> So Richardson called his next
799
00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:50,080
>> so Richardson called his next
witness.
800
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,780
Witness.
>> The back doors burst open and
801
00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:53,150
>> the back doors burst open and
everyone in the courtroom turned
802
00:23:53,150 --> 00:23:53,810
everyone in the courtroom turned
and looked around.
803
00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:56,250
And looked around.
The prosecutor says, who is
804
00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:56,450
the prosecutor says, who is
that?
805
00:23:56,450 --> 00:23:58,620
That?
>> That was as close to a Perry
806
00:23:58,620 --> 00:24:00,820
>> that was as close to a Perry
Mason moment as I've ever had.
807
00:24:00,820 --> 00:24:03,060
Mason moment as I've ever had.
>> The lead detective says,
808
00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:09,700
>> the lead detective says,
we'r
809
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:11,660
we'r
>>> defense attorney Billy
810
00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:12,830
>>> defense attorney Billy
Richardson had always wondered
811
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,010
Richardson had always wondered
if it wasn't Tim hennis, who did
812
00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:20,680
if it wasn't Tim hennis, who did
eyewitness pat cone see near the
813
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,640
eyewitness pat cone see near the
home on the night of the
814
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:22,880
home on the night of the
murders.
815
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,850
Murders.
>> Billy was going door to door,
816
00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:26,510
>> Billy was going door to door,
every neighbor.
817
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,860
Every neighbor.
Why don't you talk to that kid
818
00:24:27,850 --> 00:24:28,280
why don't you talk to that kid
across the street.
819
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,580
Across the street.
>> I see that fella all the
820
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:29,790
>> I see that fella all the
time.
821
00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:31,430
Time.
He walks the neighborhood all
822
00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:31,780
he walks the neighborhood all
the time.
823
00:24:31,790 --> 00:24:33,050
The time.
>> They didn't know who he was.
824
00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:35,970
>> They didn't know who he was.
So Billy did a vigil, became
825
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,760
so Billy did a vigil, became
this quest for this myth call
826
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,860
this quest for this myth call
figure of the Walker.
827
00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:40,830
Figure of the Walker.
>> You cannot win your case
828
00:24:40,830 --> 00:24:42,530
>> you cannot win your case
sitting in your office so I sat
829
00:24:42,530 --> 00:24:43,730
sitting in your office so I sat
out there for six weeks.
830
00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:47,230
Out there for six weeks.
>> Richardson even hoped he
831
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,600
>> Richardson even hoped he
might find the real perp
832
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,670
might find the real perp
perpetrator but he came up empty
833
00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:50,940
perpetrator but he came up empty
handed.
834
00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:53,040
Handed.
Then before the second trial
835
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,810
then before the second trial
Richardson hired an investigator
836
00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:56,510
Richardson hired an investigator
to renew the search.
837
00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:59,350
To renew the search.
And finally, they found their
838
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:59,910
and finally, they found their
mystery man.
839
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,060
Mystery man.
No murderer but a high school
840
00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:04,720
no murderer but a high school
senior who worked at the local
841
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,050
senior who worked at the local
supermarket.
842
00:25:05,050 --> 00:25:07,550
Supermarket.
>> A kid by the name of John
843
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,390
>> a kid by the name of John
ropa lived down street from the
844
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:10,690
ropa lived down street from the
eastburns.
845
00:25:10,690 --> 00:25:12,890
Eastburns.
He was an uneasy sleeper and he
846
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,170
he was an uneasy sleeper and he
had a habit of walking the
847
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,460
had a habit of walking the
neighborhood on summerhill road
848
00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:16,700
neighborhood on summerhill road
at 3:00 in the morning.
849
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:18,600
At 3:00 in the morning.
He was a big blond kid with a
850
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,300
he was a big blond kid with a
blond mustache.
851
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:20,200
Blond mustache.
>> It just fit.
852
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,930
>> It just fit.
It just fit like a glove.
853
00:25:21,940 --> 00:25:24,340
It just fit like a glove.
>> During the retrial Richardson
854
00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:26,740
>> during the retrial Richardson
kept his discovery from the
855
00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:27,510
kept his discovery from the
prosecution.
856
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:28,940
Prosecution.
Timing the mystery Walker's
857
00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:30,640
timing the mystery Walker's
entrance for maximum impact.
858
00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:35,110
Entrance for maximum impact.
>> The back doors burst open,
859
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,280
>> the back doors burst open,
defense calls John ropa and at
860
00:25:37,290 --> 00:25:39,290
defense calls John ropa and at
3:30 in the morning you couldn't
861
00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:42,560
3:30 in the morning you couldn't
help but think, could that be
862
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,890
help but think, could that be
who Patrick cone saw on the
863
00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:44,120
who Patrick cone saw on the
road.
864
00:25:44,130 --> 00:25:45,290
Road.
>> Here's another tall white
865
00:25:45,290 --> 00:25:48,330
>> here's another tall white
guy, blond, walking down the
866
00:25:48,330 --> 00:25:49,360
guy, blond, walking down the
street.
867
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:50,230
Street.
Lo
868
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:50,700
lo
it was effective.
869
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:52,600
It was effective.
>> It was just one of those
870
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,100
>> it was just one of those
magical moments in the
871
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:56,600
magical moments in the
courtroom.
872
00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:58,310
Courtroom.
The jury them a reason to have
873
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:59,140
the jury them a reason to have
reasonable doubt.
874
00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,510
Reasonable doubt.
It gave them a reason to say it
875
00:26:01,510 --> 00:26:01,810
it gave them a reason to say it
wasn't Tim.
876
00:26:01,810 --> 00:26:04,080
Wasn't Tim.
>> When Walker took the stand
877
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,110
>> when Walker took the stand
Richardson asked him what he
878
00:26:06,110 --> 00:26:07,450
Richardson asked him what he
wore on his walks down
879
00:26:07,450 --> 00:26:09,180
wore on his walks down
summerhill road.
880
00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:10,550
Summerhill road.
>> He often wore a beanie hat
881
00:26:10,550 --> 00:26:12,650
>> he often wore a beanie hat
and he had a members only
882
00:26:12,650 --> 00:26:14,050
and he had a members only
jacket, black members only
883
00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:14,290
jacket, black members only
jacket.
884
00:26:14,290 --> 00:26:15,960
Jacket.
>> After the Walker's testimony
885
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,190
>> after the Walker's testimony
the defense moved to have the
886
00:26:18,190 --> 00:26:18,720
the defense moved to have the
case thrown out.
887
00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:20,730
Case thrown out.
>> Defense accused the
888
00:26:20,730 --> 00:26:22,430
>> defense accused the
prosecution of just out right
889
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:23,230
prosecution of just out right
cheating because it turns out
890
00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:25,060
cheating because it turns out
the prosecutors knew exactly who
891
00:26:25,070 --> 00:26:26,970
the prosecutors knew exactly who
John ropa was.
892
00:26:26,970 --> 00:26:30,140
John ropa was.
>> The state had found the guy
893
00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:30,970
>> the state had found the guy
and it basically hid him from
894
00:26:30,970 --> 00:26:31,140
and it basically hid him from
US.
895
00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:32,670
US.
>> As the jury began
896
00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:33,870
>> as the jury began
deliberating Richardson told the
897
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,780
deliberating Richardson told the
judge what he discovered about
898
00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:39,210
judge what he discovered about
the prosecution's conduct.
899
00:26:39,210 --> 00:26:40,510
The prosecution's conduct.
>> Deputy sheriff went to John
900
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,230
>> deputy sheriff went to John
rop, a and they brought him in
901
00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:43,850
rop, a and they brought him in
and had him bring his jabt and
902
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:44,750
and had him bring his jabt and
his hat and they took it from
903
00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:45,920
his hat and they took it from
him and put it in the trunk of
904
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,650
him and put it in the trunk of
one of the detective's cars.
905
00:26:47,660 --> 00:26:51,190
One of the detective's cars.
And they returned it to John
906
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:52,890
and they returned it to John
ropa after Tim hennis was on
907
00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:54,460
ropa after Tim hennis was on
death row.
908
00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:55,930
Death row.
That's exactly the kind of
909
00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:57,260
that's exactly the kind of
evidence in a death case that
910
00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:58,840
evidence in a death case that
could have tilted it their way
911
00:26:58,830 --> 00:26:59,570
could have tilted it their way
in the first trial.
912
00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:02,570
In the first trial.
>> We just got plain mad at this
913
00:27:02,570 --> 00:27:02,900
>> we just got plain mad at this
point.
914
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:04,370
Point.
Get slapped enough, you say, all
915
00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:05,470
get slapped enough, you say, all
right, I've had enough of this.
916
00:27:05,470 --> 00:27:06,840
Right, I've had enough of this.
>> It just got more incredible
917
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,770
>> it just got more incredible
to sit in the courtroom and
918
00:27:07,780 --> 00:27:08,870
to sit in the courtroom and
watch this thing unfold.
919
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,580
Watch this thing unfold.
I went from thinking he's guilty
920
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:14,650
I went from thinking he's guilty
to I'm not sure a jury is going
921
00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:17,780
to I'm not sure a jury is going
to be able to find him guilty
922
00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:19,750
to be able to find him guilty
to, he diplomat ddn't do it and
923
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,000
to, he diplomat ddn't do it and
have to let him go.
924
00:27:20,990 --> 00:27:22,020
Have to let him go.
Then the jury knocked.
925
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:24,060
Then the jury knocked.
>> After deliberating less than
926
00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:25,460
>> after deliberating less than
three hours the jury announced
927
00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:26,760
three hours the jury announced
its verdict.
928
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:38,140
Its verdict.
Not guilty on all counts.
929
00:27:38,140 --> 00:27:39,540
Not guilty on all counts.
>> We all just broke down and
930
00:27:39,540 --> 00:27:41,810
>> we all just broke down and
started crying because I knew
931
00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:42,680
started crying because I knew
what they had been through.
932
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,240
What they had been through.
Next to marrying my wife, next
933
00:27:45,250 --> 00:27:48,110
next to marrying my wife, next
to the birth of my children,
934
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:48,880
to the birth of my children,
that was probably the happiest
935
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,050
that was probably the happiest
day of my life.
936
00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:51,850
Day of my life.
>> We've lived with the family
937
00:27:51,850 --> 00:27:52,990
>> we've lived with the family
and felt what they've been
938
00:27:52,990 --> 00:27:54,720
and felt what they've been
through and it's just a
939
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,660
through and it's just a
tremendous, tremendous load
940
00:27:56,660 --> 00:27:57,920
tremendous, tremendous load
taken off our shoulders.
941
00:27:57,930 --> 00:28:00,630
Taken off our shoulders.
>> The jurors came out and
942
00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:01,730
>> the jurors came out and
hugged Tim hennis.
943
00:28:01,730 --> 00:28:04,630
Hugged Tim hennis.
They were adamant they needed to
944
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:05,530
they were adamant they needed to
reinvestigate this case and quit
945
00:28:05,530 --> 00:28:06,370
reinvestigate this case and quit
picking on this guy.
946
00:28:06,370 --> 00:28:08,570
Picking on this guy.
>> Somebody said, why are they
947
00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:10,170
>> somebody said, why are they
bothering this poor man.
948
00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:11,100
Bothering this poor man.
Talking about the hennis.
949
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:13,840
Talking about the hennis.
Why are they bothering this poor
950
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,310
why are they bothering this poor
plan?
951
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:15,770
Plan?
Hasn't he suffered enough?
952
00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:17,810
Hasn't he suffered enough?
A man that killed two men and a
953
00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:18,010
a man that killed two men and a
woman.
954
00:28:18,010 --> 00:28:21,080
Woman.
How much did Gary suffer the
955
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:29,820
how much did Gary suffer the
rest of his life?
956
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:31,100
Rest of his life?
>> Whether you like it or not
957
00:28:31,090 --> 00:28:32,830
>> whether you like it or not
Tim is our client and if he
958
00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:33,630
Tim is our client and if he
dies, we live with it.
959
00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:35,630
Dies, we live with it.
>> In the years that followed,
960
00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:37,030
>> in the years that followed,
the hennis case became a
961
00:28:37,030 --> 00:28:42,130
the hennis case became a
textbook example of wrongful
962
00:28:42,140 --> 00:28:42,600
textbook example of wrongful
prosecution.
963
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Prosecution.
Scott was even adapted into a TV
964
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:46,410
Scott was even adapted into a TV
mov
965
00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:46,640
mov
movie.
966
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,910
Movie.
>> This case put people on
967
00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:48,840
>> this case put people on
notice that not everybody who is
968
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,380
notice that not everybody who is
sitting in prison is glity.
969
00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:52,010
Sitting in prison is glity.
>> North Carolina now as a
970
00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:53,510
>> north Carolina now as a
commission that actually has
971
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,430
commission that actually has
released a number of innocent
972
00:28:57,420 --> 00:28:57,780
released a number of innocent
people.
973
00:28:57,790 --> 00:29:00,120
People.
>> Despite all the attention to
974
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,890
>> despite all the attention to
hennis' acquittal to eastburn
975
00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:03,360
hennis' acquittal to eastburn
murders would go unsolved for
976
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720
murders would go unsolved for
another 16 years.
977
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:09,330
Another 16 years.
Until 2005 when Scott spoke
978
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:12,630
until 2005 when Scott spoke
about a case at a criminology
979
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:13,670
about a case at a criminology
seminar.
980
00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:14,570
Seminar.
Fayetteville detective Larry
981
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:15,470
fayetteville detective Larry
trotter was in the audience.
982
00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:16,740
Trotter was in the audience.
>> The premise was that there
983
00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:17,870
>> the premise was that there
were a lot of unknowns out
984
00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:18,140
were a lot of unknowns out
there.
985
00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:19,810
There.
People that potentially may not
986
00:29:19,810 --> 00:29:21,040
people that potentially may not
have been interviewed, other
987
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,980
have been interviewed, other
forms of evidence.
988
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:24,840
Forms of evidence.
>> If he's innocent then who is
989
00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:25,080
>> if he's innocent then who is
guilty?
990
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,580
Guilty?
The state of north Carolina
991
00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:28,180
the state of north Carolina
didn't pursue this for 17 years.
992
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:30,580
Didn't pursue this for 17 years.
Why isn't trying to find who is
993
00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:30,830
why isn't trying to find who is
guilty?
994
00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:32,350
Guilty?
>> Somebody was stalking that
995
00:29:32,350 --> 00:29:36,590
>> somebody was stalking that
woman for weeks.
996
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:38,520
Woman for weeks.
Eastburn was writing his woman
997
00:29:38,530 --> 00:29:39,860
eastburn was writing his woman
saying there is a fool out there
998
00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:40,960
saying there is a fool out there
following many we, I don't like
999
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,130
following many we, I don't like
it.
1000
00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:43,130
It.
What do I do about it?
1001
00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:45,160
What do I do about it?
Why isn't that being looked at?
1002
00:29:45,170 --> 00:29:47,070
Why isn't that being looked at?
Who does it lead to?
1003
00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:48,970
Who does it lead to?
>> After witnesses discussed the
1004
00:29:48,970 --> 00:29:50,300
>> after witnesses discussed the
evidence detective trotter
1005
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:51,280
evidence detective trotter
approached him privately.
1006
00:29:51,270 --> 00:29:53,140
Approached him privately.
He said, I just want you to know
1007
00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:54,640
he said, I just want you to know
that the way they investigated
1008
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,610
that the way they investigated
this case 20 years ago, we're
1009
00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:58,310
this case 20 years ago, we're
not like that anymore.
1010
00:29:58,310 --> 00:30:01,650
Not like that anymore.
I said, somebody should
1011
00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:02,710
I said, somebody should
reinvestigate this case.
1012
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,250
Reinvestigate this case.
I think it can be solved now.
1013
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:05,180
I think it can be solved now.
Technology has improved.
1014
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:06,420
Technology has improved.
That's how we left it.
1015
00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:08,450
That's how we left it.
>> In fact, trotter had been
1016
00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:10,560
>> in fact, trotter had been
assigned by the sheriff's office
1017
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,760
assigned by the sheriff's office
to review cold cases.
1018
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,660
To review cold cases.
>> We had well over 100 unsolved
1019
00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:14,790
>> we had well over 100 unsolved
cases at this time.
1020
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,630
Cases at this time.
As I went through it, the
1021
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:24,470
as I went through it, the
docket, I realized that they had
1022
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:27,070
docket, I realized that they had
a vaginal s wrks wab.
1023
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,720
A vaginal s wrks wab.
It had never been sent out for
1024
00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:27,940
it had never been sent out for
testing.
1025
00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:29,680
Testing.
When it happened DNA was in
1026
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,740
when it happened DNA was in
infancy so the thing to do was
1027
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:33,010
infancy so the thing to do was
to send it off for testing.
1028
00:30:33,010 --> 00:30:36,220
To send it off for testing.
>> For over two decades Gary
1029
00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:38,180
>> for over two decades Gary
eastburn had lived without
1030
00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:38,950
eastburn had lived without
closure of the ders stating
1031
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:41,650
closure of the ders stating
murder of his wife and two
1032
00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:41,920
murder of his wife and two
daughters.
1033
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,750
Daughters.
>> We've done a great injustice
1034
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,320
>> we've done a great injustice
for this man.
1035
00:30:43,330 --> 00:30:45,170
For this man.
How he stood up or with stood, I
1036
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,520
how he stood up or with stood, I
don't know.
1037
00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:46,690
Don't know.
You just want to do something
1038
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:47,070
you just want to do something
for him.
1039
00:30:47,060 --> 00:30:48,730
For him.
You want to make sure you get
1040
00:30:48,730 --> 00:30:49,430
you want to make sure you get
this solved.
1041
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:52,930
This solved.
>> In may 2006 the state crime
1042
00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:54,300
>> in may 2006 the state crime
lab contacted the sheriff's
1043
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:54,600
lab contacted the sheriff's
department.
1044
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,070
Department.
They had found a positive match
1045
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:59,240
they had found a positive match
for the DNA.
1046
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640
For the DNA.
Detective bitle called Gary
1047
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,570
detective bitle called Gary
eastburn to tell him the news.
1048
00:31:02,580 --> 00:31:04,140
Eastburn to tell him the news.
I said, are you sitting down?
1049
00:31:04,150 --> 00:31:05,720
I said, are you sitting down?
He said, yeah.
1050
00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:05,880
He said, yeah.
Why?
1051
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,780
Why?
I said, take a deep seat, I've
1052
00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:15,390
I said, take a deep seat, I've
got something to tell you.
1053
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:16,760
Got something to tell you.
>>> After Tim hennis was freed
1054
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,290
>>> after Tim hennis was freed
from death row in 1989 he didn't
1055
00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:20,790
from death row in 1989 he didn't
know where to turn.
1056
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,140
Know where to turn.
>> Are you feel very diminished,
1057
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:30,340
>> are you feel very diminished,
very worn out, dragged down, you
1058
00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:31,970
very worn out, dragged down, you
don't have the self confidence
1059
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:33,940
don't have the self confidence
and reliability you once had.
1060
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,240
And reliability you once had.
>> His lawyers told him, get out
1061
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,640
>> his lawyers told him, get out
of the army.
1062
00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:39,490
Of the army.
It's just a bad place to be.
1063
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,780
It's just a bad place to be.
But you've been on death row,
1064
00:31:40,780 --> 00:31:42,480
but you've been on death row,
there weren't a lot of employers
1065
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,250
there weren't a lot of employers
who would take that on.
1066
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:45,820
Who would take that on.
The army had to take him back,
1067
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:47,590
the army had to take him back,
so he stayed in.
1068
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:49,790
So he stayed in.
>> After readjusting to army
1069
00:31:49,790 --> 00:31:51,990
>> after readjusting to army
life, Tim hennis built a
1070
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:53,790
life, Tim hennis built a
successful 25-year career in the
1071
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,470
successful 25-year career in the
military.
1072
00:31:55,460 --> 00:31:56,600
Military.
>> Tim hennis served in Somalia,
1073
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,800
>> Tim hennis served in Somalia,
he served in desert storm.
1074
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,440
He served in desert storm.
Tim's supervising colonel told
1075
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,540
Tim's supervising colonel told
me he was without a doubt the
1076
00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:08,540
me he was without a doubt the
best nco he ever worked with.
1077
00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,040
Best nco he ever worked with.
>> Retired at 2004.
1078
00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:12,520
>> Retired at 2004.
He was good at being a husband
1079
00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:12,810
he was good at being a husband
and father.
1080
00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:14,910
And father.
He and Angela had a son, who he
1081
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,180
he and Angela had a son, who he
never would have had had he not
1082
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:18,430
never would have had had he not
gotten his life back together.
1083
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:21,690
Gotten his life back together.
>> But Tim hennis had no idea
1084
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:22,820
>> but Tim hennis had no idea
the eastburn murder case was
1085
00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:24,060
the eastburn murder case was
about to break wide open.
1086
00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:27,760
About to break wide open.
In 2006 a 20-year-old rape kit
1087
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,030
in 2006 a 20-year-old rape kit
yielded new DNA results.
1088
00:32:30,030 --> 00:32:32,500
Yielded new DNA results.
Drebtive bittle called the
1089
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:33,400
drebtive bittle called the
father Gary eastburn the news.
1090
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,670
Father Gary eastburn the news.
>> I said, we got a hit on the
1091
00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:36,100
>> I said, we got a hit on the
DNA.
1092
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,540
DNA.
He said, well, who is it?
1093
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:41,710
He said, well, who is it?
I said, hennis.
1094
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:42,810
I said, hennis.
>> You could knocked me over
1095
00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:46,810
>> you could knocked me over
with a feather when I got that
1096
00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:47,020
with a feather when I got that
call.
1097
00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:49,390
Call.
Just hit with this wave of
1098
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:50,020
just hit with this wave of
emotion.
1099
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:50,850
Emotion.
Like, I don't believe it.
1100
00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:53,050
Like, I don't believe it.
>> I was so happy.
1101
00:32:53,050 --> 00:32:56,020
>> I was so happy.
I mean, I was walking on cloud
1102
00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:56,220
I mean, I was walking on cloud
nine.
1103
00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:57,790
Nine.
>> Defense lawyer Billy
1104
00:32:57,790 --> 00:32:58,820
>> defense lawyer Billy
Richardson was driving through
1105
00:32:58,830 --> 00:33:00,060
Richardson was driving through
Mississippi when he heard the
1106
00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:00,330
Mississippi when he heard the
news.
1107
00:33:00,330 --> 00:33:06,370
News.
>> I said, stop the car.
1108
00:33:06,370 --> 00:33:09,270
>> I said, stop the car.
And it was just like somebody
1109
00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:12,270
and it was just like somebody
had taken a 2 x 4 and hit me up
1110
00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:13,310
had taken a 2 x 4 and hit me up
the side of the head with it.
1111
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:14,940
The side of the head with it.
>> I was convinced that if
1112
00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:17,010
>> I was convinced that if
anybody could ever run an actual
1113
00:33:17,010 --> 00:33:18,380
anybody could ever run an actual
DNA on that sample they would
1114
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:21,510
DNA on that sample they would
find someone other than Tim
1115
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:21,780
find someone other than Tim
hennis.
1116
00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:23,150
Hennis.
I believed it with every fiber
1117
00:33:23,150 --> 00:33:23,980
I believed it with every fiber
of my being.
1118
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:25,990
Of my being.
>> But the shocking DNA results
1119
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:28,590
>> but the shocking DNA results
led to a pragmatic question --
1120
00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:30,720
led to a pragmatic question --
>> what the heck do you do now?
1121
00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:34,440
>> What the heck do you do now?
>> Timothy hennis had been
1122
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:35,030
>> Timothy hennis had been
adjudicated, not guilty,
1123
00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:36,160
adjudicated, not guilty,
therefore the state of north
1124
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,900
therefore the state of north
Carolina was not going to try
1125
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,130
Carolina was not going to try
him again.
1126
00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:40,270
Him again.
>> We fought a revolutionary war
1127
00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:42,230
>> we fought a revolutionary war
because the king of england
1128
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,900
because the king of england
could try somebody over and over
1129
00:33:43,910 --> 00:33:45,280
could try somebody over and over
for the same offense.
1130
00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:47,640
For the same offense.
Our funders put in the
1131
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,970
our funders put in the
constitution that there will be
1132
00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:51,080
constitution that there will be
no double jeopardy in this
1133
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,310
no double jeopardy in this
country.
1134
00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:52,710
Country.
>> I understand that, but I
1135
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:55,750
>> I understand that, but I
think there might be certain
1136
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:57,780
think there might be certain
cases like this that there's DNA
1137
00:33:57,790 --> 00:33:59,990
cases like this that there's DNA
now that says there's a man who
1138
00:33:59,990 --> 00:34:02,120
now that says there's a man who
raped this woman and killed her.
1139
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Raped this woman and killed her.
I think you should be able to.
1140
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,320
I think you should be able to.
Somehow the judicial system is
1141
00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:05,730
somehow the judicial system is
going to have to work around
1142
00:34:05,730 --> 00:34:05,920
going to have to work around
that.
1143
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:08,560
That.
>> It was the da's office who
1144
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,130
>> it was the da's office who
decided to see if the army was
1145
00:34:10,130 --> 00:34:11,500
decided to see if the army was
interested in bringing him back
1146
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,100
interested in bringing him back
off of retirement and trying him
1147
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,430
off of retirement and trying him
for the murders.
1148
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,670
For the murders.
>> A team of lawyers from the
1149
00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:19,670
>> a team of lawyers from the
ranks helped evaluate the case
1150
00:34:19,670 --> 00:34:20,670
ranks helped evaluate the case
for the army.
1151
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,250
For the army.
>> My personal opinion about why
1152
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:23,140
>> my personal opinion about why
this is important to the
1153
00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:24,910
this is important to the
military is that the military
1154
00:34:24,910 --> 00:34:27,750
military is that the military
sent Gary eastburn for duty in
1155
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:29,610
sent Gary eastburn for duty in
Alabama and his family was left
1156
00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:31,120
Alabama and his family was left
behind and they were murdered.
1157
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,850
Behind and they were murdered.
>> I'm sure there was debate
1158
00:34:32,850 --> 00:34:34,490
>> I'm sure there was debate
with the military.
1159
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:36,760
With the military.
It's high profile, it's
1160
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,690
it's high profile, it's
controversial, but you had an
1161
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:40,930
controversial, but you had an
enlisted person killing an
1162
00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:41,430
enlisted person killing an
officer's wife.
1163
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:43,900
Officer's wife.
How do you let that go?
1164
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,470
How do you let that go?
>> Two years after he retired,
1165
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:48,830
>> two years after he retired,
Timothy hennis was recalled to
1166
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,570
Timothy hennis was recalled to
active duty.
1167
00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:50,970
Active duty.
As soon as he returned to ft.
1168
00:34:50,970 --> 00:34:52,270
As soon as he returned to ft.
Bragg, hennis was charge with
1169
00:34:52,270 --> 00:34:55,440
bragg, hennis was charge with
three counts of murder.
1170
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,310
Three counts of murder.
>> Tim hennis is the only person
1171
00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:58,410
>> Tim hennis is the only person
in the United States history who
1172
00:34:58,410 --> 00:35:00,350
in the United States history who
has been tried for his life
1173
00:35:00,350 --> 00:35:02,080
has been tried for his life
three times after guilty and not
1174
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,480
three times after guilty and not
guilty verdicts.
1175
00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,560
Guilty verdicts.
>> I can't comment as to why it
1176
00:35:05,550 --> 00:35:08,950
>> I can't comment as to why it
has not happened before.
1177
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,390
Has not happened before.
However, illegal analysis of it
1178
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:13,190
however, illegal analysis of it
was actually pretty simple.
1179
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:15,660
Was actually pretty simple.
>> It is actually well is itled
1180
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:15,990
>> it is actually well is itled
law.
1181
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,100
Law.
Nothing the state does affects
1182
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,100
nothing the state does affects
what the government can do.
1183
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,400
What the government can do.
>> They can claim it's under a
1184
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,200
>> they can claim it's under a
different jurisdiction all they
1185
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,400
different jurisdiction all they
want.
1186
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,930
Want.
This was the state of north
1187
00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:24,300
this was the state of north
Carolina using the army to get
1188
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:25,480
Carolina using the army to get
to what they wanted to do.
1189
00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:29,940
To what they wanted to do.
Plain and simple.
1190
00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:32,410
Plain and simple.
>> With Billy Richardson now on
1191
00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:34,010
>> with Billy Richardson now on
the side lips the court-martial
1192
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,990
the side lips the court-martial
of Timothy hennis commenced on
1193
00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:38,060
of Timothy hennis commenced on
march 14th, 2010.
1194
00:35:38,050 --> 00:35:39,480
March 14th, 2010.
The prosecutor's case hinged on
1195
00:35:39,490 --> 00:35:40,820
the prosecutor's case hinged on
the DNA results.
1196
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:43,690
The DNA results.
>> The sperm found in the vagina
1197
00:35:43,690 --> 00:35:45,660
>> the sperm found in the vagina
of Kathryn eastburn was the
1198
00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:47,360
of Kathryn eastburn was the
person who raped and slaughtered
1199
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,530
person who raped and slaughtered
her and her children, and that
1200
00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:49,960
her and her children, and that
is Timothy hennis'.
1201
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,660
Is Timothy hennis'.
>> When a scandal erupted at the
1202
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:54,800
>> when a scandal erupted at the
state lab the DNA evidence
1203
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,030
state lab the DNA evidence
against Timothy hennis would be
1204
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,700
against Timothy hennis would be
thrown into question.
1205
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,740
Thrown into question.
>> They were mixing up DNA
1206
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:15,390
>> they were mixing up DNA
samples and almost putting an
1207
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:23,090
>> narrator: In 20 Timothy
hennis went on trial a third
1208
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:23,560
hennis went on trial a third
time.
1209
00:36:23,570 --> 00:36:25,470
Time.
A scandal rocked the state lab
1210
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:27,700
a scandal rocked the state lab
that identified his DNA.
1211
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,000
That identified his DNA.
The lab had been skewing results
1212
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,700
the lab had been skewing results
to help prosecutors.
1213
00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:33,470
To help prosecutors.
>> The woman who handled the
1214
00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:37,310
>> the woman who handled the
sample back in the '80s got in
1215
00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:41,650
sample back in the '80s got in
trouble for mixing up some DNA
1216
00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:43,620
trouble for mixing up some DNA
samples in another case.
1217
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:45,350
Samples in another case.
And almost put an innocent guy
1218
00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:46,320
and almost put an innocent guy
in prison.
1219
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,350
In prison.
>> They didn't do a good job
1220
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,690
>> they didn't do a good job
preserving the evidence.
1221
00:36:49,690 --> 00:36:51,190
Preserving the evidence.
Three people were arrested for
1222
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:53,290
three people were arrested for
evidence tampering.
1223
00:36:53,290 --> 00:36:54,530
Evidence tampering.
>> Narrator: His lawyers asked
1224
00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:56,630
>> narrator: His lawyers asked
for a postponement to
1225
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:57,460
for a postponement to
investigate the lab.
1226
00:36:57,470 --> 00:37:00,240
Investigate the lab.
The judge refused.
1227
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,180
The judge refused.
Meanwhile, military prosecutors
1228
00:37:02,170 --> 00:37:04,100
meanwhile, military prosecutors
found a second smear from the
1229
00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:04,650
found a second smear from the
rape kit.
1230
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,400
Rape kit.
They sent it to a new lab and
1231
00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:09,770
they sent it to a new lab and
the results also pointed to
1232
00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:10,480
the results also pointed to
hennis.
1233
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Hennis.
>> The medical examiner slide
1234
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680
>> the medical examiner slide
came back on every marker to the
1235
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,150
came back on every marker to the
defendant.
1236
00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:18,020
Defendant.
Tested by army's crime lab.
1237
00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,450
Tested by army's crime lab.
You had two chains of custody.
1238
00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:22,900
You had two chains of custody.
The defense could not attack the
1239
00:37:22,890 --> 00:37:23,150
the defense could not attack the
slide.
1240
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,360
Slide.
>> Narrator: For prosecutors the
1241
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,590
>> narrator: For prosecutors the
DNA results swept away all
1242
00:37:26,590 --> 00:37:27,860
DNA results swept away all
previous doubts.
1243
00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:29,730
Previous doubts.
>> They went back and replayed
1244
00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:31,260
>> they went back and replayed
the first two trials.
1245
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:32,200
The first two trials.
Some of the old discredited
1246
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,240
some of the old discredited
instances.
1247
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,340
Instances.
Patrick saw Timothy coming down
1248
00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:40,670
Patrick saw Timothy coming down
the driveway.
1249
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,250
The driveway.
The members only jacket to the
1250
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:43,240
the members only jacket to the
cry cleaners.
1251
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,780
Cry cleaners.
Using the atm card.
1252
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:46,280
Using the atm card.
You had numerous pieces of
1253
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:46,850
you had numerous pieces of
evidence to tie him to the
1254
00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:49,350
evidence to tie him to the
crime.
1255
00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:52,420
Crime.
>> Narrator: For hennis's
1256
00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:54,450
>> narrator: For hennis's
defenders prosecution's case had
1257
00:37:54,460 --> 00:37:54,760
defenders prosecution's case had
flaws.
1258
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,320
Flaws.
The top priority was getting
1259
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,320
the top priority was getting
their own evidence in front of
1260
00:37:57,330 --> 00:37:58,170
their own evidence in front of
the jury.
1261
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,990
The jury.
>> There is a ton of physical
1262
00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:01,290
>> there is a ton of physical
evidence in that house they
1263
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:03,260
evidence in that house they
still can't explain.
1264
00:38:03,260 --> 00:38:05,660
Still can't explain.
They found a head hair in the
1265
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:06,630
they found a head hair in the
bed.
1266
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:09,370
Bed.
It's not Tim hennis.
1267
00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:11,670
It's not Tim hennis.
There is a pubic hair where the
1268
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:13,270
there is a pubic hair where the
rape took place.
1269
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:15,070
Rape took place.
>> What is male DNA doing under
1270
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,440
>> what is male DNA doing under
her finger nails?
1271
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Her finger nails?
It's not Tim's.
1272
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,180
It's not Tim's.
There is male DNA under the
1273
00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:21,310
there is male DNA under the
daughter's finger nails, not
1274
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,510
daughter's finger nails, not
Tim's.
1275
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,010
Tim's.
>> The prosecution and defense
1276
00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:24,280
>> the prosecution and defense
agreed.
1277
00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:26,330
Agreed.
Nothing else came back to
1278
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,950
nothing else came back to
Timothy hennis.
1279
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,900
Timothy hennis.
Under the fingerer nails that's
1280
00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:30,560
under the fingerer nails that's
not his.
1281
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,660
Not his.
But what is is the vaginal swab.
1282
00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:35,260
But what is is the vaginal swab.
>> To me male DNA evidence under
1283
00:38:35,260 --> 00:38:38,400
>> to me male DNA evidence under
the finger nail of a woman who's
1284
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,660
the finger nail of a woman who's
raped is damaging evidence.
1285
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:40,670
Raped is damaging evidence.
Who is it?
1286
00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:42,330
Who is it?
>> Narrator: The finger nail
1287
00:38:42,340 --> 00:38:43,540
>> narrator: The finger nail
scrapings weren't enough for a
1288
00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:44,940
scrapings weren't enough for a
full DNA profile.
1289
00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:46,640
Full DNA profile.
So the defense asked to test all
1290
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,910
so the defense asked to test all
the crime scene evidence that
1291
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:50,880
the crime scene evidence that
might point to a different
1292
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,210
might point to a different
perpetrator, including a
1293
00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:53,980
perpetrator, including a
blood-soaked towel.
1294
00:38:53,980 --> 00:38:55,480
Blood-soaked towel.
>> Whoever had sex with her
1295
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,150
>> whoever had sex with her
didn't necessarily kill her.
1296
00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:59,150
Didn't necessarily kill her.
You can't argue that whoever
1297
00:38:59,150 --> 00:39:00,290
you can't argue that whoever
cleaned up the blood didn't have
1298
00:39:00,290 --> 00:39:02,020
cleaned up the blood didn't have
something to do with it.
1299
00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:03,290
Something to do with it.
Let's find out what happened.
1300
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:05,190
Let's find out what happened.
>> In the military, if you need
1301
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:06,830
>> in the military, if you need
a test done, you have to ask the
1302
00:39:06,830 --> 00:39:08,960
a test done, you have to ask the
judge to make the army do it for
1303
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,360
judge to make the army do it for
you.
1304
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,560
You.
>> Narrator: The judge denied
1305
00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:12,370
>> narrator: The judge denied
the defense's request to test
1306
00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:13,530
the defense's request to test
other items.
1307
00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:16,170
Other items.
>> I can't imagine a judge in a
1308
00:39:16,170 --> 00:39:17,940
>> I can't imagine a judge in a
civilian court not allowing
1309
00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:18,140
civilian court not allowing
that.
1310
00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:19,370
That.
You had the evidence.
1311
00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:21,910
You had the evidence.
Why not test it?
1312
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:23,040
Why not test it?
>> Narrator: Without DNA results
1313
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,610
>> narrator: Without DNA results
pointing to a different suspect,
1314
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:29,760
pointing to a different suspect,
hennis's lawyers decided to
1315
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:32,920
hennis's lawyers decided to
offer an alternate explanation
1316
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,350
offer an alternate explanation
for the incriminating sperm.
1317
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,130
For the incriminating sperm.
>> They threw out the theory
1318
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,990
>> they threw out the theory
that Tim hennis had consensual
1319
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,140
that Tim hennis had consensual
sex with Mrs. Eastburn within a
1320
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:45,630
sex with Mrs. Eastburn within a
day or so of the homicide.
1321
00:39:45,630 --> 00:39:46,970
Day or so of the homicide.
>> You could feel the love
1322
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:47,770
>> you could feel the love
leaving the room.
1323
00:39:47,770 --> 00:39:49,470
Leaving the room.
Everybody said, I don't think he
1324
00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:50,200
everybody said, I don't think he
said that.
1325
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,200
Said that.
There are certain things you can
1326
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:52,610
there are certain things you can
do in front of a jury.
1327
00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:54,170
Do in front of a jury.
Certain things you are can't.
1328
00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:55,150
Certain things you are can't.
It would not have been how I
1329
00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:58,580
it would not have been how I
would have done it.
1330
00:39:58,580 --> 00:40:01,410
Would have done it.
>> Narrator: The 14-person
1331
00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:03,180
>> narrator: The 14-person
court-martial jury declared
1332
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:05,250
court-martial jury declared
unanimously that Timothy the
1333
00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:07,450
unanimously that Timothy the
hennis was guilty of murdering
1334
00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,160
hennis was guilty of murdering
Katie eastburn and her children.
1335
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,690
Katie eastburn and her children.
The next task would be to decide
1336
00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:13,960
the next task would be to decide
whether hennis deserved the
1337
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,390
whether hennis deserved the
death penalty.
1338
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,800
Death penalty.
>> When you have a man that for
1339
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,730
>> when you have a man that for
25 years after this occurred did
1340
00:40:18,730 --> 00:40:21,230
25 years after this occurred did
knnothing but raise his family,
1341
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:23,680
knnothing but raise his family,
serve in two wars, discharged
1342
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:25,470
serve in two wars, discharged
and married to the same woman,
1343
00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:26,740
and married to the same woman,
why are you going to the look
1344
00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:30,880
why are you going to the look
and say that's the monster?
1345
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,180
And say that's the monster?
>> He gives cookies to kids.
1346
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:34,610
>> He gives cookies to kids.
Doesn't make a difference.
1347
00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:36,460
Doesn't make a difference.
>> We are not there to say how
1348
00:40:36,450 --> 00:40:37,450
>> we are not there to say how
could he do it?
1349
00:40:37,450 --> 00:40:39,150
Could he do it?
We are not there to say why did
1350
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:39,750
we are not there to say why did
he do it.
1351
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:47,660
He do it.
We are there to say he did it.
1352
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We are there to say he did it.
>> The prosecution ended their
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>> the prosecution ended their
presentation with another slide
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presentation with another slide
show.
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Show.
>> Eastman counted out that
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>> eastman counted out that
birthdays he's missed with his
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birthdays he's missed with his
daughters.
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Daughters.
Anniversari
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anniversari
anniversaries.
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Anniversaries.
Baptism.
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Baptism.
One of my trial partners asked
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one of my trial partners asked
Gary what do you miss the most?
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Gary what do you miss the most?
With tears in his eyes he said,
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with tears in his eyes he said,
I just miss them.
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I just miss them.
>> On April 15, 2010, the jury
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>> on April 15, 2010, the jury
sentenced Timothy hennis to
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sentenced Timothy hennis to
death.
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Death.
>> Being vindicated for things
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>> being vindicated for things
when they got a not guilty.
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When they got a not guilty.
With the smiles and smirks you
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00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:33,140
with the smiles and smirks you
see from people.
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See from people.
I do.
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I do.
Yes, sir, I do.
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Yes, sir, I do.
I feel vindicated.
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I feel vindicated.
>> Narrator: Tim now sits in
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>> narrator: Tim now sits in
solitary confinement at fort
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solitary confinement at fort
levinworth, Kansas.
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Levinworth, Kansas.
His appeals both in the military
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his appeals both in the military
and federal courts could take
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and federal courts could take
decades.
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Decades.
>> I still think Tim is
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>> I still think Tim is
innocent.
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Innocent.
But I'm not his lawyer now.
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00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:54,230
But I'm not his lawyer now.
It would be improper for me to
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00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:55,390
it would be improper for me to
say, all right, Tim.
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00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,460
Say, all right, Tim.
Did you or didn't you?
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00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:59,640
Did you or didn't you?
I'm dying to have that
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00:41:59,630 --> 00:42:00,500
I'm dying to have that
conversation with him.
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00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:03,200
Conversation with him.
How can you put a man to death
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00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,000
how can you put a man to death
based solely on one piece of
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00:42:06,010 --> 00:42:06,440
based solely on one piece of
evidence?
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00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640
Evidence?
Our country was formed on the
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our country was formed on the
premise that one person
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premise that one person
wrongfully convict sd a grave
1395
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:13,980
wrongfully convict sd a grave
injustice.
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00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:15,080
Injustice.
>> I don't know what the outcome
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>> I don't know what the outcome
will be.
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00:42:15,580 --> 00:42:17,220
Will be.
This is a good case.
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00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:19,420
This is a good case.
>> I knew we were right.
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>> I knew we were right.
>> I think this is a good
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>> I think this is a good
system.
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