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"Death row stories" starts right
now.
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>>> on this episode of death row
stories, a white woman is
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stories, a white woman is
brutally beaten.
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Brutally beaten.
>> The crime scene was
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>> the crime scene was
unbelievable.
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Unbelievable.
>> And a black man is arrested.
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>> And a black man is arrested.
>> His fingerprint was found.
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>> His fingerprint was found.
There were a number of hairs on
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there were a number of hairs on
the victim's bed.
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The victim's bed.
>> But after a death sentence, a
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>> but after a death sentence, a
law intern has her doubts.
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Law intern has her doubts.
>> There was something wrong.
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>> There was something wrong.
I started seeing what the lies
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I started seeing what the lies
were.
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Were.
>> And the case begins to
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>> and the case begins to
unravel.
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Unravel.
>> There are those that have a
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>> there are those that have a
hidden agenda.
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Hidden agenda.
>> Is it a fair trial?
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>> Is it a fair trial?
>> Corruption is the theme of
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>> corruption is the theme of
the day almost.
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The day almost.
>> There was no way I would let
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>> there was no way I would let
this case go.
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This case go.
>> There's a body in the water.
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>> There's a body in the water.
Murdered.
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Murdered.
>> Many people proclaim their
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>> many people proclaim their
innocence.
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Innocence.
>> In this case there are a
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>> in this case there are a
number of things that stink.
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Number of things that stink.
>> The electric chair flashed in
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>> the electric chair flashed in
front of my eyes.
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Front of my eyes.
>> Get a conviction at all
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>> get a conviction at all
costs.
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Costs.
Let the truth fall where it may.
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Let the truth fall where it may.
>> Good evening.
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>> Good evening.
Welcome to Carolina.
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Welcome to Carolina.
Tonight we're coming to you from
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tonight we're coming to you from
the city of greenwood, a diverse
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the city of greenwood, a diverse
city and one that has the
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city and one that has the
distinction of having the widest
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distinction of having the widest
main street in the world.
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Main street in the world.
>> Greenwood is a very small
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>> greenwood is a very small
community.
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Community.
Everybody seems to know
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everybody seems to know
everybody.
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Everybody.
We're related to everybody here.
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We're related to everybody here.
It is very tight knit.
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It is very tight knit.
So when the news came out about
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so when the news came out about
this horrendous murder, it was
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this horrendous murder, it was
devastating.
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Devastating.
>> On a cold Monday morning in
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>> on a cold Monday morning in
1982, the bruised and beaten
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1982, the bruised and beaten
body of 75-year-old Dorothy
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body of 75-year-old Dorothy
Edwards was discovered in this
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Edwards was discovered in this
upscale home.
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Upscale home.
>> Dorothy Edwards, she was just
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>> Dorothy Edwards, she was just
a loved woman in the community,
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a loved woman in the community,
and she had been horribly
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and she had been horribly
killed.
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Killed.
>> Dorothy was known as a
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>> Dorothy was known as a
graceful and charming woman with
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graceful and charming woman with
a beautiful singing voice and a
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a beautiful singing voice and a
wonderful sense of humor.
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Wonderful sense of humor.
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>> The next door neighbor, Mr.
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>> The next door neighbor, Mr.
holloway had noticed a couple of
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holloway had noticed a couple of
newspapers that had piled up,
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newspapers that had piled up,
and he went over to check on
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and he went over to check on
her.
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Her.
>> On January 19th, 1982, inside
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>> on January 19th, 1982, inside
the home holloway told police he
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the home holloway told police he
found signs of struggle
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found signs of struggle
everywhere, a heavy glass
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everywhere, a heavy glass
ashtray shattered on the living
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ashtray shattered on the living
room floor, a pair of bloody ice
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room floor, a pair of bloody ice
tongs.
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Tongs.
Dorothy Edwards was found dead
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Dorothy Edwards was found dead
in her closet.
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In her closet.
>> The brutality of the crime
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>> the brutality of the crime
scene, the blood, the way the
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scene, the blood, the way the
body was and the stab wounds
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body was and the stab wounds
postmortem, it was just totally
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postmortem, it was just totally
unbelievable.
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Unbelievable.
>> Dorothy's body had 52 wounds,
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>> Dorothy's body had 52 wounds,
11 broken ribs and abrasions on
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11 broken ribs and abrasions on
her vagina.
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Her vagina.
>> The state forensic team
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>> the state forensic team
gathered what evidence was
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gathered what evidence was
inside the home.
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Inside the home.
Hair samples were found on the
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hair samples were found on the
bed.
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Bed.
Blood in various places.
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Blood in various places.
Outside there were some
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outside there were some
fingerprints.
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Fingerprints.
>> A crime scene wiped clean of
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>> a crime scene wiped clean of
fingerprints, police believe the
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fingerprints, police believe the
killer made a mistake, a
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killer made a mistake, a
thumbprint found on the back
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thumbprint found on the back
door.
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Door.
Dorothy's neighbor James
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Dorothy's neighbor James
holloway told police that Edward
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holloway told police that Edward
Lee elmore, a 23-year-old
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Lee elmore, a 23-year-old
handyman worked for Dorothy from
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handyman worked for Dorothy from
time to time.
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Time to time.
Although elmore had never been
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although elmore had never been
convicted of a felony, police
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convicted of a felony, police
matched his fingerprints from
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matched his fingerprints from
other misdemeanor arrests and
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other misdemeanor arrests and
issued a warrant to bring him
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issued a warrant to bring him
in, accusing him of murder and
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in, accusing him of murder and
rape, among lesser charges.
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Rape, among lesser charges.
Greenwood police went looking
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greenwood police went looking
for elmore 36 hours after
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for elmore 36 hours after
Dorothy's body was found.
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Dorothy's body was found.
>> I was working second shift
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>> I was working second shift
with the detective division and
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with the detective division and
the call came in saying the
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the call came in saying the
suspect was at his girlfriend
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suspect was at his girlfriend
Mary's apartment.
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Mary's apartment.
I went up and knocked on the
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I went up and knocked on the
door.
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Door.
>> The encounter was not what
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>> the encounter was not what
detective vandenburgh expected.
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Detective vandenburgh expected.
>> I told them that we had a
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>> I told them that we had a
warrant for his arrest.
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Warrant for his arrest.
And I told him it was for
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and I told him it was for
murder.
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Murder.
His demeanor at that time was so
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his demeanor at that time was so
nonchalant.
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Nonchalant.
Okay.
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Okay.
Which is totally out of context
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which is totally out of context
for anybody I've ever dealt with
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for anybody I've ever dealt with
before in a situation like that.
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Before in a situation like that.
No outburst or violent behavior.
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No outburst or violent behavior.
Just like well.
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Just like well.
>> Police took hair and blood
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>> police took hair and blood
samples and placed them in the
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samples and placed them in the
county jailhouse.
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County jailhouse.
Even elmore's public defender
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even elmore's public defender
had doubts about his innocence.
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Had doubts about his innocence.
>> Many people will proclaim
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>> many people will proclaim
constantly their innocence and I
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constantly their innocence and I
cannot remember Mr. Elmore
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cannot remember Mr. Elmore
vociferously proclaiming his
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vociferously proclaiming his
innocence.
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Innocence.
And I got the feeling that there
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and I got the feeling that there
might be something for him to
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might be something for him to
hide.
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Hide.
>> Elmore's case came to trial
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>> elmore's case came to trial
only 82 days after his arrest.
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Only 82 days after his arrest.
Prosecutors say Dorothy had been
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prosecutors say Dorothy had been
killed Saturday night when
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killed Saturday night when
elmore was alone and had no
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elmore was alone and had no
alibi.
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Alibi.
>> You want to find out whether
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>> you want to find out whether
or not Mr. Elmore had any
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or not Mr. Elmore had any
alibis.
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Alibis.
And we found none.
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And we found none.
And Mr. Elmore, he was not very
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and Mr. Elmore, he was not very
cooperative.
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Cooperative.
He wouldn't hardly talk to me.
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He wouldn't hardly talk to me.
>> Police found small spots of
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>> police found small spots of
blood matching Dorothy's blood
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blood matching Dorothy's blood
type on elmore's pants and
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type on elmore's pants and
shoes.
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Shoes.
>> Back in the '80s, DNA
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>> back in the '80s, DNA
analysis had not been developed.
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Analysis had not been developed.
When DNA was available, it came
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when DNA was available, it came
back positive that it was the
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back positive that it was the
victim's blood.
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Victim's blood.
>> Prosecutors also told the
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>> prosecutors also told the
jury that dozens of elmore's
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jury that dozens of elmore's
pubic hairs were found on
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pubic hairs were found on
Dorothy's bed.
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Dorothy's bed.
And finally, prosecutors
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and finally, prosecutors
presented James Gilliam, a
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presented James Gilliam, a
prison inmate who claimed to
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prison inmate who claimed to
hear elmore confess while he was
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hear elmore confess while he was
in jail.
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In jail.
>> That came out of nowhere.
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>> That came out of nowhere.
That just rocked me.
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That just rocked me.
Mr. Rockmore told Gilliam that I
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Mr. Rockmore told Gilliam that I
went down there and robbed that
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went down there and robbed that
lady, and she started screaming
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lady, and she started screaming
and I killed her.
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And I killed her.
That was the lynchpin.
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That was the lynchpin.
>> The jury took less than five
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>> the jury took less than five
hours to reach a verdict.
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Hours to reach a verdict.
Elmore was convicted and
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elmore was convicted and
sentenced to death.
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Sentenced to death.
But the conviction was
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but the conviction was
overturned on appeal.
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Overturned on appeal.
>> There was one juror who was
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>> there was one juror who was
reluctant to impose the death
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reluctant to impose the death
penalty.
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Penalty.
And the trial judge went into
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and the trial judge went into
the jury room and put pressure
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the jury room and put pressure
on the holdout juror to impose
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on the holdout juror to impose
the death sentence.
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The death sentence.
>> A new trial was ordered.
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>> A new trial was ordered.
Same prosecutor, same defense
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same prosecutor, same defense
attorneys, same outcome.
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Attorneys, same outcome.
A third trial was held to
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a third trial was held to
reconsider the sentence and
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reconsider the sentence and
again, the decision was
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again, the decision was
unanimous.
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Unanimous.
36 jurors had determined that
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36 jurors had determined that
Edward elmore should be put to
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Edward elmore should be put to
death.
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11 years later, a 34-year-old
law student named Diana holt
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law student named Diana holt
came to the south Carolina death
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came to the south Carolina death
penalty resource center as a
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penalty resource center as a
summer intern.
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Summer intern.
One of her first assignments was
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one of her first assignments was
reviewing elmore's case.
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Reviewing elmore's case.
>> The first time I saw the
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>> the first time I saw the
name, I was reading through the
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name, I was reading through the
transcript.
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Transcript.
>> Diana started having
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>> Diana started having
suspicions that elmore's trials
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suspicions that elmore's trials
weren't fair.
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Weren't fair.
She was troubled that there were
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she was troubled that there were
no expert witnesses and rarely
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no expert witnesses and rarely
challenged any of the
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challenged any of the
prosecution's evidence.
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Prosecution's evidence.
Diana knew that a competent
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Diana knew that a competent
defense was grounds for an
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defense was grounds for an
appeal.
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Appeal.
>> I felt like there was
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>> I felt like there was
something wrong.
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Something wrong.
I needed to meet Eddie and give
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I needed to meet Eddie and give
him an eyeball up and down.
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Him an eyeball up and down.
Size him up.
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Size him up.
>> And who she met wasn't what
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>> and who she met wasn't what
he expected.
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He expected.
>> Meeting him, it is just the
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>> meeting him, it is just the
biggest, sweetest smile, and he
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biggest, sweetest smile, and he
is so docile and gentle and
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is so docile and gentle and
quiet and happy.
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Quiet and happy.
Happy.
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Happy.
How is he on death row and
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how is he on death row and
happy?
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Happy?
It just didn't make any sense.
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It just didn't make any sense.
There was no way I was going to
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>> Will you trust god no matter
how bad it looks.
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How bad it looks.
It's not bad as it seems because
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it's not bad as it seems because
god is still in control.
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God is still in control.
>> Bishop Emmanuel spearman was
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>> bishop Emmanuel spearman was
pastor to Edward Lee elmore, the
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pastor to Edward Lee elmore, the
man accused of murdering Dr.
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Man accused of murdering Dr.
Dorothy Edwards.
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Dorothy Edwards.
>> I have come to know Edward in
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>> I have come to know Edward in
the late '70s.
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The late '70s.
I pastored his home church.
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I pastored his home church.
And his mother and I were best
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and his mother and I were best
of friends.
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Of friends.
They didn't have a whole lot.
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They didn't have a whole lot.
>> One of 11 siblings, elmore's
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>> one of 11 siblings, elmore's
father was killed by a
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father was killed by a
hit-and-run driver when elmore
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hit-and-run driver when elmore
was 2.
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Was 2.
He grew up in dire poverty.
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He grew up in dire poverty.
>> He had a low I.Q.
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>> He had a low I.Q.
I was a special ed teacher so I
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I was a special ed teacher so I
knew that he was slow.
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Knew that he was slow.
When I went to greenwood jail
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when I went to greenwood jail
and I spoke with him, he really
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and I spoke with him, he really
didn't know why he was there.
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Didn't know why he was there.
And that bothered me.
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And that bothered me.
>> A hard worker, elmore got by
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>> a hard worker, elmore got by
on odd jobs like cleaning
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on odd jobs like cleaning
gutters and washing windows,
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gutters and washing windows,
including for Dorothy Edwards.
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Including for Dorothy Edwards.
When Dorothy was murdered, age
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when Dorothy was murdered, age
old fears and recrimination
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old fears and recrimination
surfaced in the community.
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Surfaced in the community.
>> I know race plays a role when
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>> I know race plays a role when
it comes to the justice system.
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It comes to the justice system.
Here in greenwood, there are
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here in greenwood, there are
those who still have their
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those who still have their
agenda, but it's a hidden
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agenda, but it's a hidden
agenda.
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Agenda.
>> I'm positive that race played
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>> I'm positive that race played
in Edward Lee elmore's trials.
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In Edward Lee elmore's trials.
Make no mistake, I think that
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make no mistake, I think that
was because he was the black guy
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was because he was the black guy
that they say killed an older
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that they say killed an older
white woman.
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White woman.
>> Searching through elmore's
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>> searching through elmore's
original trial, Diana found
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original trial, Diana found
potential grounds for appeal.
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Potential grounds for appeal.
Her first target was public
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her first target was public
defender geddes Anderson who
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defender geddes Anderson who
seemed utterly unprepared to
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seemed utterly unprepared to
take on the case.
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Take on the case.
>> I asked him, when did you
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>> I asked him, when did you
start working on the case?
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Start working on the case?
Eight days before the trail
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eight days before the trail
began.
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Began.
That's zero time.
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That's zero time.
You can't even read all of the
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you can't even read all of the
evidence and assess it and
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evidence and assess it and
crunch it.
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Crunch it.
>> In retrospect perhaps I
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>> in retrospect perhaps I
should have asked for more time.
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Should have asked for more time.
I never have proclaimed to be
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I never have proclaimed to be
the best lawyer that ever graced
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the best lawyer that ever graced
the courtroom.
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The courtroom.
>> Overworked and underpaid, Mr.
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>> Overworked and underpaid, Mr.
Anderson also had a reputation
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Anderson also had a reputation
as a drinker.
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As a drinker.
>> That's fair.
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>> That's fair.
That's a fair accusation.
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That's a fair accusation.
I have had certain, I guess you
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I have had certain, I guess you
could say problems with it but I
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could say problems with it but I
can say this categorically.
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Can say this categorically.
I was totally clear headed and
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I was totally clear headed and
not drinking during those
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not drinking during those
trials.
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Trials.
Everyone of them.
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Everyone of them.
But on the other hand, you know,
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but on the other hand, you know,
I would go out on occasion.
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I would go out on occasion.
I'm not as bad as I used to be.
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I'm not as bad as I used to be.
>> In contrast, William t. Jones
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>> in contrast, William t. Jones
III, known as Willie t., was
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III, known as Willie t., was
considered a master of the
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considered a master of the
courtroom.
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Courtroom.
>> Willie t.'S track record
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>> Willie t.'S track record
spoke for itself.
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Spoke for itself.
He lost very few.
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He lost very few.
He was very dramatic.
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He was very dramatic.
I've seen that man cry in front
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I've seen that man cry in front
of the jury.
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Of the jury.
Mr. Jones in the courtroom could
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Mr. Jones in the courtroom could
probably outperform sir Lawrence
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probably outperform sir Lawrence
Olivier.
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Olivier.
Let's put it that way.
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Let's put it that way.
>> He could overpower you,
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>> he could overpower you,
overcontrol you, and he was not
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overcontrol you, and he was not
beyond saying things that he
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beyond saying things that he
couldn't prove if they weren't
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couldn't prove if they weren't
challenged.
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Challenged.
>> Early in the first trial,
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>> early in the first trial,
Anderson challenged Jones by
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Anderson challenged Jones by
objecting that a single
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objecting that a single
thumbprint was not enough to
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thumbprint was not enough to
arrest elmore.
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Arrest elmore.
>> In order to obtain an arrest
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>> in order to obtain an arrest
warrant, the police obtain an
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warrant, the police obtain an
upside down thumbprint on the
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upside down thumbprint on the
back outside door frame.
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Back outside door frame.
That's exactly consistent with
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that's exactly consistent with
cleaning the windows.
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Cleaning the windows.
Cleaning the door.
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Cleaning the door.
That is not probable cause in
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that is not probable cause in
anywhere else in america that
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anywhere else in america that
I'm aware of.
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I'm aware of.
But Willie t. Said, well i'm
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but Willie t. Said, well i'm
glad you brought that up.
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Glad you brought that up.
The forensic pathologist let US
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the forensic pathologist let US
know that she had located
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know that she had located
negroid pubic hairs on the
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negroid pubic hairs on the
victim's chest and abdomen.
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Victim's chest and abdomen.
The defense shut their mouths
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the defense shut their mouths
and sat down.
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And sat down.
>> If elmore's hair had in fact
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>> if elmore's hair had in fact
been found on the body, this was
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been found on the body, this was
a new and explosive claim, a
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a new and explosive claim, a
claim that went unchallenged by
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claim that went unchallenged by
geddes Anderson.
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Geddes Anderson.
>> Did you ask to see that
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>> did you ask to see that
evidence?
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Evidence?
>> You would have to look at the
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>> you would have to look at the
transcript to see.
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Transcript to see.
I don't know if I did or not.
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I don't know if I did or not.
>> According to the transcript,
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>> according to the transcript,
you did not ask to see that
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you did not ask to see that
evidence.
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Evidence.
Why would you not have asked to
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why would you not have asked to
see that evidence?
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See that evidence?
It seems like pretty important.
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It seems like pretty important.
>> Well, I don't know how to
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>> well, I don't know how to
answer that.
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Answer that.
I guess you'll have to take some
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I guess you'll have to take some
nonanswer to that question.
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Nonanswer to that question.
>> Mysteriously, the pubic hair
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>> mysteriously, the pubic hair
Willie t. Said was found on
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Willie t. Said was found on
Dorothy's body was never entered
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Dorothy's body was never entered
into evidence.
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Into evidence.
As opposed to the hairs on the
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as opposed to the hairs on the
body, a separate group of 49
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body, a separate group of 49
pubic hairs said to be found on
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pubic hairs said to be found on
Dorothy's bed also raised
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Dorothy's bed also raised
Diana's doubts.
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Diana's doubts.
>> A lot of people saw the some
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>> a lot of people saw the some
49 pubic hairs allegedly
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49 pubic hairs allegedly
collected from the victim's bed
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collected from the victim's bed
as the most damaging evidence
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as the most damaging evidence
against Mr. Elmore.
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Against Mr. Elmore.
But this item of evidence was a
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but this item of evidence was a
plain baggy like put your kids'
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plain baggy like put your kids'
sandwiches in when you're
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sandwiches in when you're
packing their school lunch.
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Packing their school lunch.
Not sealed with red evidence
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not sealed with red evidence
tape that says evidence, do not
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tape that says evidence, do not
tamper.
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Tamper.
This did not have that on there.
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This did not have that on there.
>> Evidence the bag contained 49
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>> evidence the bag contained 49
hairs.
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Hairs.
A number Diana found
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a number Diana found
suspiciously close to the number
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suspiciously close to the number
of hairs police pulled from
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of hairs police pulled from
elmore after his arrest.
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Elmore after his arrest.
>> There was from what I
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>> there was from what I
understand about, 50 to 60 hairs
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understand about, 50 to 60 hairs
that were collected, either
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that were collected, either
being combed or pulled.
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Being combed or pulled.
>> But if elmore's hair had been
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>> but if elmore's hair had been
found at the crime scene of the
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found at the crime scene of the
nearly 100 crime scene
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nearly 100 crime scene
photographs, not a single photo
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photographs, not a single photo
showed hairs on the bed.
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Showed hairs on the bed.
>> Any kind of evidence you
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>> any kind of evidence you
collect at a crime scene, the
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collect at a crime scene, the
first thing you do is photograph
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first thing you do is photograph
it.
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It.
>> There was no pictures of the
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>> there was no pictures of the
hair on the bed.
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Hair on the bed.
There was pictures of everything
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there was pictures of everything
except the most crucial evidence
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except the most crucial evidence
in the case.
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In the case.
So it became obvious to me
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so it became obvious to me
something wasn't quite right.
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Something wasn't quite right.
>> The only photo of the bed
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>> the only photo of the bed
shows it covered with police
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shows it covered with police
camera equipment, contaminating
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camera equipment, contaminating
any evidence.
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Any evidence.
The question became, where did
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the question became, where did
the hairs in the baggy come
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the hairs in the baggy come
from?
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From?
>> There was no question they
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>> there was no question they
pulled those hairs from his
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pulled those hairs from his
body.
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Body.
They pulled a lot of them.
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They pulled a lot of them.
And I don't think they were ever
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and I don't think they were ever
on the bed.
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On the bed.
I believe it was planted.
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I believe it was planted.
>> Diana was starting to see a
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>> Diana was starting to see a
pattern.
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Pattern.
>> There was all this
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>> there was all this
ineffective assistance of
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ineffective assistance of
counsel.
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Counsel.
There was no basis for probable
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there was no basis for probable
cause to arrest Mr. Elmore
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cause to arrest Mr. Elmore
anyway, and there was no list of
457
00:15:15,230 --> 00:15:18,000
anyway, and there was no list of
negroid pubic hairs in the
458
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,500
negroid pubic hairs in the
police inventory.
459
00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,970
Police inventory.
There was no item like that.
460
00:15:23,970 --> 00:15:25,970
There was no item like that.
>> As Diana dug deep entire the
461
00:15:25,980 --> 00:15:28,990
>> as Diana dug deep entire the
case, a new suspect began to
462
00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:30,740
case, a new suspect began to
emerge.
463
00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:32,480
Emerge.
She thought the next door
464
00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,480
she thought the next door
neighbor who discovered
465
00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,450
neighbor who discovered
Dorothy's body had acted
466
00:15:36,450 --> 00:15:37,480
Dorothy's body had acted
suspiciously.
467
00:15:37,490 --> 00:15:43,490
Suspiciously.
>> Really?
468
00:15:43,490 --> 00:15:44,120
>> Really?
>>> In order to get a new trial
469
00:15:44,130 --> 00:15:45,760
>>> in order to get a new trial
for Edward Lee elmore, Diana
470
00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,530
for Edward Lee elmore, Diana
needed to find grounds to appeal
471
00:15:46,530 --> 00:15:47,290
needed to find grounds to appeal
when she finally read what
472
00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:48,030
when she finally read what
elmore said in the original
473
00:15:48,030 --> 00:15:52,000
elmore said in the original
trial, she felt more determined
474
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,500
trial, she felt more determined
than ever to fight back.
475
00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:55,000
Than ever to fight back.
>> I started reading Eddie's
476
00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,500
>> I started reading Eddie's
testimony and it got me, yeah.
477
00:15:57,510 --> 00:16:00,510
Testimony and it got me, yeah.
And the more it went along, the
478
00:16:00,510 --> 00:16:02,240
and the more it went along, the
more it got me.
479
00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,780
More it got me.
>> I remember when he was cross
480
00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:10,020
>> I remember when he was cross
examining.
481
00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:15,250
Examining.
Because for a long time, Edward
482
00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:18,760
because for a long time, Edward
didn't say anything or testify.
483
00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,030
Didn't say anything or testify.
He just sat there as if, why am
484
00:16:20,030 --> 00:16:21,530
he just sat there as if, why am
I here?
485
00:16:21,530 --> 00:16:22,260
I here?
Why I am a going through this?
486
00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:22,800
Why I am a going through this?
>> You want this court to
487
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,360
>> you want this court to
believe you're always this
488
00:16:23,370 --> 00:16:23,760
believe you're always this
quiet, don't you?
489
00:16:23,770 --> 00:16:24,330
Quiet, don't you?
>> Well, sir, you asked me
490
00:16:24,330 --> 00:16:24,800
>> well, sir, you asked me
something, I answered.
491
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,370
Something, I answered.
>> You want them to believe
492
00:16:25,370 --> 00:16:27,000
>> you want them to believe
you're real quiet and polite.
493
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,270
You're real quiet and polite.
Yes, sir, no, sir.
494
00:16:28,270 --> 00:16:29,500
Yes, sir, no, sir.
Isn't that right?
495
00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:32,280
Isn't that right?
>> No, sir.
496
00:16:32,270 --> 00:16:34,240
>> No, sir.
>> Edward didn't understand what
497
00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,510
>> Edward didn't understand what
he was talking about.
498
00:16:37,510 --> 00:16:38,510
He was talking about.
He didn't understand how to
499
00:16:38,510 --> 00:16:39,110
he didn't understand how to
defend himself or what to say.
500
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,760
Defend himself or what to say.
>> Why did you hit her with this
501
00:16:39,750 --> 00:16:41,250
>> why did you hit her with this
ashtray?
502
00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:42,750
Ashtray?
>> I didn't hit her with it.
503
00:16:42,750 --> 00:16:44,050
>> I didn't hit her with it.
>> Why did you stick her with
504
00:16:44,050 --> 00:16:45,250
>> why did you stick her with
this knife?
505
00:16:45,250 --> 00:16:47,020
This knife?
>> I didn't stick her with no
506
00:16:47,020 --> 00:16:48,250
>> I didn't stick her with no
knife, sir.
507
00:16:48,260 --> 00:16:49,760
Knife, sir.
>> Tell US how it felt when she
508
00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,030
>> tell US how it felt when she
reached down and jerked these
509
00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:53,760
reached down and jerked these
pubic hairs out of you.
510
00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,760
Pubic hairs out of you.
It hurt, didn't it?
511
00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,400
It hurt, didn't it?
>> She didn't jerk them off me.
512
00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,260
>> She didn't jerk them off me.
I was not there.
513
00:16:56,270 --> 00:16:56,910
I was not there.
>> She tried to get off the bed
514
00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:57,360
>> she tried to get off the bed
and get out of there.
515
00:16:57,370 --> 00:16:57,800
And get out of there.
>> I was not there.
516
00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,330
>> I was not there.
>> And you caught her and
517
00:16:58,330 --> 00:16:58,970
>> and you caught her and
started pounding her with your
518
00:16:58,970 --> 00:17:00,530
started pounding her with your
fist.
519
00:17:00,540 --> 00:17:02,300
Fist.
>> No, sir.
520
00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:04,270
>> No, sir.
>> Stomach and all.
521
00:17:04,270 --> 00:17:05,510
>> Stomach and all.
>> No, sir.
522
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:06,040
>> No, sir.
>> Did you kick her?
523
00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,340
>> Did you kick her?
>> No, sir.
524
00:17:06,340 --> 00:17:06,740
>> No, sir.
I wasn't there.
525
00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:07,370
I wasn't there.
>> That's all I have to ask you.
526
00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:09,240
>> That's all I have to ask you.
>> In his closing argument to
527
00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:11,290
>> in his closing argument to
the jury, Willie t. Portrayed
528
00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,750
the jury, Willie t. Portrayed
elmore as a sadistic killer who
529
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:17,250
elmore as a sadistic killer who
tortured his victim before
530
00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:20,550
tortured his victim before
beating her to death.
531
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,020
Beating her to death.
But Diana thought that the
532
00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:23,290
but Diana thought that the
depiction of elmore was highly
533
00:17:23,290 --> 00:17:23,890
depiction of elmore was highly
prejudicial and the evidence
534
00:17:23,890 --> 00:17:25,020
prejudicial and the evidence
riddled with holes.
535
00:17:25,030 --> 00:17:27,530
Riddled with holes.
She also thought elmore had done
536
00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:31,260
she also thought elmore had done
well under the circumstances.
537
00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:32,500
Well under the circumstances.
>> Even under withering
538
00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:34,270
>> even under withering
prosecution by brilliant Willie
539
00:17:34,270 --> 00:17:34,830
prosecution by brilliant Willie
t., Mr. Elmore said what he
540
00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:42,180
t., Mr. Elmore said what he
always said, I didn't do it.
541
00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:43,010
Always said, I didn't do it.
>> In order to solve the mystery
542
00:17:43,010 --> 00:17:43,580
>> in order to solve the mystery
of who did murder Dorothy
543
00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:53,020
of who did murder Dorothy
Edwards, Diana began looking for
544
00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:53,650
Edwards, Diana began looking for
alternate suspects and she found
545
00:17:53,660 --> 00:17:54,150
alternate suspects and she found
one in the neighbor who
546
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,720
one in the neighbor who
discovered the body, James
547
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:54,990
discovered the body, James
holloway.
548
00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:59,760
Holloway.
>> I read the testimony of James
549
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,390
>> I read the testimony of James
holloway and my head just about
550
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,030
holloway and my head just about
spun off my little spindly neck.
551
00:18:01,030 --> 00:18:05,770
Spun off my little spindly neck.
Wow!
552
00:18:05,770 --> 00:18:06,300
Wow!
>> Holloway had spent an
553
00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:06,930
>> holloway had spent an
unusually long period of time at
554
00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:07,570
unusually long period of time at
the crime scene before calling
555
00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:12,270
the crime scene before calling
the police.
556
00:18:12,270 --> 00:18:12,810
The police.
>> He goes inside Dorothy
557
00:18:12,810 --> 00:18:13,170
>> he goes inside Dorothy
Edwards' house.
558
00:18:13,180 --> 00:18:18,020
Edwards' house.
He sees that wall of blood for
559
00:18:18,010 --> 00:18:18,640
he sees that wall of blood for
the first time, but he doesn't
560
00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:18,950
the first time, but he doesn't
call police.
561
00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:23,520
Call police.
He decides that he is going to
562
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,120
he decides that he is going to
go to the other side neighbor
563
00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:24,750
go to the other side neighbor
and get her to come in the house
564
00:18:24,750 --> 00:18:25,790
and get her to come in the house
with him.
565
00:18:25,790 --> 00:18:26,750
With him.
So he is at the closet door
566
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,330
so he is at the closet door
again and he decides to put
567
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:33,530
again and he decides to put
gloves on.
568
00:18:33,530 --> 00:18:34,160
Gloves on.
And then opens the door and lo
569
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,200
and then opens the door and lo
and behold, there she was.
570
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,270
And behold, there she was.
Really?
571
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:39,900
Really?
He put his gloves on before he
572
00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:45,270
he put his gloves on before he
went to open the door?
573
00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:45,870
Went to open the door?
>> Diana was also suspicious
574
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,520
>> Diana was also suspicious
that holloway immediately told
575
00:18:46,510 --> 00:18:47,140
that holloway immediately told
police who the perpetrator could
576
00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:51,010
police who the perpetrator could
be.
577
00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:51,640
Be.
>> He told law enforcement, you
578
00:18:51,650 --> 00:18:52,250
>> he told law enforcement, you
know, there was a boy here a
579
00:18:52,250 --> 00:18:52,880
know, there was a boy here a
couple weeks back who washed her
580
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,110
couple weeks back who washed her
windows.
581
00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:53,760
Windows.
And if you get me her checkbook,
582
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:55,050
and if you get me her checkbook,
I can get his name for you.
583
00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:56,520
I can get his name for you.
And that was Edward Lee elmore.
584
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,520
And that was Edward Lee elmore.
That boy.
585
00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:06,260
That boy.
>> Even more surprising was that
586
00:19:06,260 --> 00:19:06,890
>> even more surprising was that
the police allowed holloway, a
587
00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:07,530
the police allowed holloway, a
possible suspect, to clean the
588
00:19:07,530 --> 00:19:12,530
possible suspect, to clean the
crime scene the day after
589
00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:13,080
crime scene the day after
Dorothy's body was found.
590
00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:13,670
Dorothy's body was found.
>> Law enforcement turned the
591
00:19:13,670 --> 00:19:17,040
>> law enforcement turned the
crime scene over to Jimmy
592
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,500
crime scene over to Jimmy
holloway to clean up.
593
00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:18,140
Holloway to clean up.
He could do whatever he wanted
594
00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:18,400
he could do whatever he wanted
in there.
595
00:19:18,410 --> 00:19:24,280
In there.
There was no law enforcement
596
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:24,910
there was no law enforcement
presence watching what happened.
597
00:19:24,910 --> 00:19:25,550
Presence watching what happened.
There was no preservation of the
598
00:19:25,550 --> 00:19:34,990
there was no preservation of the
crime scene.
599
00:19:34,990 --> 00:19:35,620
Crime scene.
>> Diana needed answers so she
600
00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:36,220
>> Diana needed answers so she
drove 90 miles to greenwood,
601
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:37,030
drove 90 miles to greenwood,
south Carolina, and showed up
602
00:19:37,030 --> 00:19:37,760
south Carolina, and showed up
unannounced at James holloway's
603
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:43,760
unannounced at James holloway's
front door.
604
00:19:43,770 --> 00:19:44,360
Front door.
>> Mrs. Holloway answered the
605
00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:44,560
>> Mrs. Holloway answered the
door.
606
00:19:44,570 --> 00:19:45,200
Door.
She led me into the den and he
607
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:45,770
she led me into the den and he
was sitting on his big
608
00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:49,500
was sitting on his big
overstuffed recliner.
609
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:50,150
Overstuffed recliner.
So I introduced myself, and he
610
00:19:50,140 --> 00:19:53,270
so I introduced myself, and he
proceeded to tell me, well, you
611
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,020
proceeded to tell me, well, you
know, really, the only one who
612
00:19:54,010 --> 00:19:55,540
know, really, the only one who
could kill her and get away with
613
00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:57,040
could kill her and get away with
it was me, the way she trusted
614
00:19:57,050 --> 00:20:05,020
it was me, the way she trusted
me.
615
00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:05,620
Me.
That was one of the toughest
616
00:20:05,620 --> 00:20:06,190
that was one of the toughest
moments in my career of not
617
00:20:06,190 --> 00:20:06,450
moments in my career of not
reacting.
618
00:20:06,460 --> 00:20:12,030
Reacting.
Holy --
619
00:20:12,030 --> 00:20:12,560
holy --
he also told me that law
620
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,260
he also told me that law
enforcement suspected him
621
00:20:13,260 --> 00:20:14,260
enforcement suspected him
because all of the neighbors had
622
00:20:14,260 --> 00:20:17,260
because all of the neighbors had
told law enforcement that he and
623
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:19,500
told law enforcement that he and
Dorothy had been having an
624
00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:29,510
Dorothy had been having an
affair for the last 30 years.
625
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:30,080
Affair for the last 30 years.
He told me that Dorothy was
626
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:30,710
he told me that Dorothy was
supposed to go out of town that
627
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:31,340
supposed to go out of town that
weekend because she claim this
628
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:31,980
weekend because she claim this
guy in tryon, north Carolina was
629
00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:32,580
guy in tryon, north Carolina was
going to propose to her that
630
00:20:32,580 --> 00:20:37,020
going to propose to her that
weekend.
631
00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:37,650
Weekend.
But somehow she did not get to
632
00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:38,180
but somehow she did not get to
go on that trip to north
633
00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:44,020
go on that trip to north
Carolina that weekend.
634
00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:44,620
Carolina that weekend.
>> Diana realized if holloway
635
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:45,260
>> Diana realized if holloway
was having an affair with
636
00:20:45,260 --> 00:20:45,860
was having an affair with
Dorothy, the motive could be
637
00:20:45,860 --> 00:20:51,260
Dorothy, the motive could be
jealous.
638
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:51,760
Jealous.
And holloway's detailed
639
00:20:51,770 --> 00:20:52,400
and holloway's detailed
description of what might have
640
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,030
description of what might have
happened also raised a red flag
641
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,750
happened also raised a red flag
for Diana.
642
00:20:58,740 --> 00:20:59,370
For Diana.
>> He then starts telling me the
643
00:20:59,380 --> 00:20:59,980
>> he then starts telling me the
story of what happened in her
644
00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:00,550
story of what happened in her
house, as though he were an
645
00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:03,280
house, as though he were an
eyewitness.
646
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:03,880
Eyewitness.
She was just sitting there on
647
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,280
she was just sitting there on
her settee watching TV.
648
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,780
Her settee watching TV.
He came in and he started on
649
00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:09,020
he came in and he started on
her.
650
00:21:09,020 --> 00:21:10,020
Her.
It took her a good 20 minutes to
651
00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:12,290
it took her a good 20 minutes to
die.
652
00:21:12,290 --> 00:21:13,250
Die.
He just went on.
653
00:21:13,260 --> 00:21:14,300
He just went on.
And you didn't -- and there
654
00:21:14,290 --> 00:21:15,290
and you didn't -- and there
wasn't any nudging or prompting.
655
00:21:15,290 --> 00:21:16,790
Wasn't any nudging or prompting.
He was relishing talking about
656
00:21:16,790 --> 00:21:19,760
he was relishing talking about
all of the things.
657
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,260
All of the things.
It was a gully washer of
658
00:21:24,270 --> 00:21:25,260
it was a gully washer of
dumbfoundedness that day.
659
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:27,530
Dumbfoundedness that day.
>> Diana's suspicions about
660
00:21:27,540 --> 00:21:29,540
>> Diana's suspicions about
James holloway were never
661
00:21:29,540 --> 00:21:34,010
James holloway were never
pursued.
662
00:21:34,010 --> 00:21:39,510
Pursued.
He passed away in 1994.
663
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,260
He passed away in 1994.
>> By 1995, elmore had been on
664
00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:45,750
>> by 1995, elmore had been on
death row for more than 13
665
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:47,250
death row for more than 13
years.
666
00:21:47,260 --> 00:21:49,520
Years.
And he had seen many of his
667
00:21:49,530 --> 00:21:51,530
and he had seen many of his
fellow inmates put to death.
668
00:21:51,530 --> 00:21:53,030
Fellow inmates put to death.
Elmore's survival would now
669
00:21:53,030 --> 00:21:55,760
elmore's survival would now
depend on Diana getting him a
670
00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:05,300
depend on Diana getting him a
new trial.
671
00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:09,040
>>> By 1995, Diana was ready to
present evidence pointing to
672
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,650
present evidence pointing to
Edward elmore's innocence to a
673
00:22:13,650 --> 00:22:14,250
Edward elmore's innocence to a
state court in south Carolina.
674
00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:14,880
State court in south Carolina.
The goal was to get a new trial
675
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,680
the goal was to get a new trial
for elmore.
676
00:22:18,690 --> 00:22:19,450
For elmore.
Diana would be joined by Chris
677
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:20,200
Diana would be joined by Chris
Jensen for what would be her
678
00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:30,460
Jensen for what would be her
first hearing as a lawyer.
679
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:30,960
First hearing as a lawyer.
>> She was very fierce.
680
00:22:30,970 --> 00:22:32,430
>> She was very fierce.
She had not the slightest doubt
681
00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:33,930
she had not the slightest doubt
about Eddie elmore's innocence.
682
00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:37,940
About Eddie elmore's innocence.
She was determined to make sure
683
00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:40,940
she was determined to make sure
that I did my job.
684
00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:41,570
That I did my job.
>> The state was represented by
685
00:22:41,580 --> 00:22:42,210
>> the state was represented by
Donald Zelenka, who reportedly
686
00:22:42,210 --> 00:22:42,840
Donald Zelenka, who reportedly
once argued that women who had
687
00:22:42,850 --> 00:22:43,490
once argued that women who had
abortions in the third trimester
688
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,940
abortions in the third trimester
could be executed for murder.
689
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:47,150
Could be executed for murder.
And elmore's fate would be
690
00:22:47,150 --> 00:22:48,910
and elmore's fate would be
decided by judge Ernest kinard.
691
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,450
Decided by judge Ernest kinard.
One of the first witnesses
692
00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:51,680
one of the first witnesses
called was James Gilliam, the
693
00:22:51,690 --> 00:22:52,920
called was James Gilliam, the
inmate who said elmore confessed
694
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:58,890
inmate who said elmore confessed
to him in jail.
695
00:22:58,890 --> 00:22:59,430
To him in jail.
But in the small town of
696
00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:06,400
but in the small town of
greenwood, both elmore and
697
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,670
greenwood, both elmore and
Gilliam new bishop spearman.
698
00:23:07,670 --> 00:23:09,670
Gilliam new bishop spearman.
And before the hearing, Gilliam
699
00:23:09,670 --> 00:23:12,170
and before the hearing, Gilliam
told spearman the truth.
700
00:23:12,170 --> 00:23:12,810
Told spearman the truth.
>> James Gilliam and I go back I
701
00:23:12,810 --> 00:23:13,440
>> James Gilliam and I go back I
guess all our life.
702
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,040
Guess all our life.
One night he called me and he
703
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,910
one night he called me and he
told me I lied and my conscience
704
00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:15,670
told me I lied and my conscience
is bothering me.
705
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,310
Is bothering me.
>> Gilliam said he made a deal
706
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:22,180
>> Gilliam said he made a deal
with the prosecutor to testify
707
00:23:22,180 --> 00:23:22,820
with the prosecutor to testify
against elmore in exchange for
708
00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:23,250
against elmore in exchange for
release from prison.
709
00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:23,820
Release from prison.
But with elmore facing the
710
00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:27,220
but with elmore facing the
electric chair, he felt bad what
711
00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:27,920
electric chair, he felt bad what
he had done.
712
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,550
He had done.
>> I said James, make it right.
713
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,420
>> I said James, make it right.
And I got excited.
714
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:30,430
And I got excited.
I felt like once this comes out
715
00:23:30,430 --> 00:23:40,670
I felt like once this comes out
that ed would be free.
716
00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:41,270
That ed would be free.
>> Gilliam said the testimony
717
00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:41,830
>> Gilliam said the testimony
that I gave in these prior
718
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,230
that I gave in these prior
trials was false.
719
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:42,840
Trials was false.
That he made up this story to
720
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,700
that he made up this story to
try to get better treatment for
721
00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:44,410
try to get better treatment for
himself on his criminal
722
00:23:44,410 --> 00:23:49,180
himself on his criminal
sentence.
723
00:23:49,180 --> 00:23:50,180
Sentence.
>> Gilliam would go on to state
724
00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:51,940
>> Gilliam would go on to state
that the only thing elmore had
725
00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:52,550
that the only thing elmore had
ever said was that he didn't
726
00:23:52,550 --> 00:24:04,420
ever said was that he didn't
kill Dorothy Edwards.
727
00:24:04,430 --> 00:24:05,060
Kill Dorothy Edwards.
But Diana's team also felt they
728
00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:05,590
but Diana's team also felt they
needed to refute Dorothy
729
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:06,230
needed to refute Dorothy
Edwards' time of death which the
730
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:06,860
Edwards' time of death which the
medical examiner had placed on
731
00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:07,490
medical examiner had placed on
Saturday night during the only
732
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:13,930
Saturday night during the only
hours elmore had no alibi.
733
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:14,500
Hours elmore had no alibi.
Diana hired forensic expert
734
00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:14,870
Diana hired forensic expert
Jonathan arden.
735
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:15,500
Jonathan arden.
>> In my opinion the victim died
736
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:16,040
>> in my opinion the victim died
in the early afternoon on
737
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,270
in the early afternoon on
sunday.
738
00:24:16,270 --> 00:24:16,900
Sunday.
That time frame makes sense with
739
00:24:16,910 --> 00:24:18,410
that time frame makes sense with
the rigor mortis, the lack of
740
00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:18,900
the rigor mortis, the lack of
decomposition.
741
00:24:18,910 --> 00:24:20,170
Decomposition.
But when the state medical
742
00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:20,820
but when the state medical
examiner was asked, why did you
743
00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:25,910
examiner was asked, why did you
recommend the time of death be
744
00:24:25,910 --> 00:24:26,510
recommend the time of death be
65 hours prior to the time of
745
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,690
65 hours prior to the time of
discovery, given all the
746
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,280
discovery, given all the
evidence of the rigor mortis,
747
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,680
evidence of the rigor mortis,
the lack of decomposition, she
748
00:24:30,690 --> 00:24:31,920
the lack of decomposition, she
said under oath, because that's
749
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,920
said under oath, because that's
when they told me.
750
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,560
When they told me.
The police told me that's when
751
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,920
the police told me that's when
they thought it happened.
752
00:24:37,930 --> 00:24:39,160
They thought it happened.
>> But even with all the
753
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,660
>> but even with all the
evidence in elmore's favor,
754
00:24:41,660 --> 00:24:42,700
evidence in elmore's favor,
Diana and Jensen knew the
755
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:43,200
Diana and Jensen knew the
biggest hurdle would be
756
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,430
biggest hurdle would be
explaining the blood on elmore's
757
00:24:44,430 --> 00:24:46,430
explaining the blood on elmore's
pants to the court.
758
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,680
Pants to the court.
>> Blood that was supposedly
759
00:24:49,670 --> 00:24:50,300
>> blood that was supposedly
found on pants and shoes matched
760
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:51,450
found on pants and shoes matched
the blood type of Mrs. Edwards.
761
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,440
The blood type of Mrs. Edwards.
And this was very difficult
762
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,670
and this was very difficult
testimony to rebut.
763
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,420
Testimony to rebut.
>> As Jensen cross-examined the
764
00:24:56,410 --> 00:24:57,180
>> as Jensen cross-examined the
state's blood evidence, Diana
765
00:24:57,180 --> 00:24:58,410
state's blood evidence, Diana
went through the testimony and
766
00:24:58,410 --> 00:25:00,450
went through the testimony and
made a key discovery.
767
00:25:00,450 --> 00:25:01,080
Made a key discovery.
Evidence lists showed elmore's
768
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,950
evidence lists showed elmore's
pants had passed through eight
769
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,530
pants had passed through eight
different people before the
770
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,420
different people before the
trial.
771
00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:11,920
Trial.
>> I jumped out of my chair.
772
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:12,490
>> I jumped out of my chair.
I start whispering to Chris
773
00:25:12,490 --> 00:25:13,930
I start whispering to Chris
Jensen, ask him what this means
774
00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:15,430
Jensen, ask him what this means
and who these people are and
775
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:16,960
and who these people are and
what that is supposed to
776
00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:17,940
what that is supposed to
represent.
777
00:25:17,930 --> 00:25:20,730
Represent.
>> One name on the list jumped
778
00:25:20,740 --> 00:25:21,470
>> one name on the list jumped
out at Diana.
779
00:25:21,470 --> 00:25:24,170
Out at Diana.
Thomas Henderson was a state
780
00:25:24,170 --> 00:25:25,670
Thomas Henderson was a state
police agent who grew up across
781
00:25:25,670 --> 00:25:26,440
police agent who grew up across
the street from Dorothy Edwards
782
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,940
the street from Dorothy Edwards
and James holloway and was
783
00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:29,680
and James holloway and was
friendly with both.
784
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,710
Friendly with both.
>> Tom Henderson had nothing to
785
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:32,680
>> Tom Henderson had nothing to
do with forensic investigation
786
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,680
do with forensic investigation
at all.
787
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,180
At all.
Nothing.
788
00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:36,180
Nothing.
He wasn't supposed to be
789
00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:37,180
he wasn't supposed to be
involved in the case anyway
790
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:38,190
involved in the case anyway
because these were people he
791
00:25:38,190 --> 00:25:40,150
because these were people he
knew his whole life long.
792
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,930
Knew his whole life long.
>> There was really no reason
793
00:25:42,930 --> 00:25:43,930
>> there was really no reason
for him to have removed these
794
00:25:43,930 --> 00:25:49,660
for him to have removed these
things from the laboratory.
795
00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:52,410
Things from the laboratory.
We were arguing that this
796
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,030
we were arguing that this
evidence had in all likelihood
797
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,910
evidence had in all likelihood
been tampered with and quite
798
00:25:56,910 --> 00:25:57,550
been tampered with and quite
conceivably that Mrs. Edwards'
799
00:25:57,540 --> 00:25:58,070
conceivably that Mrs. Edwards'
blood had been put on the
800
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:58,340
blood had been put on the
garments.
801
00:25:58,340 --> 00:25:58,940
Garments.
>> It would now be up to the
802
00:25:58,940 --> 00:25:59,540
>> it would now be up to the
judge to rule whether or not
803
00:25:59,540 --> 00:26:02,910
judge to rule whether or not
elmore deserved a new trial.
804
00:26:02,910 --> 00:26:04,180
Elmore deserved a new trial.
The decision would take four
805
00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:07,680
the decision would take four
months to come down.
806
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:18,190
Months to come down.
>> We presented all this great
807
00:26:18,190 --> 00:26:18,690
>> we presented all this great
evidence.
808
00:26:18,690 --> 00:26:19,120
Evidence.
We're very excited.
809
00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:19,460
We're very excited.
We're stoked.
810
00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:20,090
We're stoked.
Then comes the judge's order and
811
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:20,740
then comes the judge's order and
the cover letter said Edward Lee
812
00:26:20,730 --> 00:26:25,700
the cover letter said Edward Lee
elmore may well not be guilty,
813
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:26,200
elmore may well not be guilty,
but that will be for an
814
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,900
but that will be for an
appellate court to find.
815
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:31,440
Appellate court to find.
>> Judge kinard had left
816
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,170
>> judge kinard had left
elmore's fate up to other judges
817
00:26:32,170 --> 00:26:32,670
elmore's fate up to other judges
to decide.
818
00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:33,170
To decide.
>> I became literally
819
00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:35,920
>> I became literally
hysterical, completely sobbing.
820
00:26:35,910 --> 00:26:36,680
Hysterical, completely sobbing.
Running, I threw it at John
821
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:43,920
running, I threw it at John
blume.
822
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,550
Blume.
What the hell is the matter with
823
00:26:44,550 --> 00:26:50,460
what the hell is the matter with
you?
824
00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:51,020
You?
>> John blume had assigned
825
00:26:51,030 --> 00:26:51,620
>> John blume had assigned
elmore's case to Diana as an
826
00:26:51,630 --> 00:26:51,860
elmore's case to Diana as an
intern.
827
00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:52,260
Intern.
>> I was stunned.
828
00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:52,860
>> I was stunned.
I had really expected that he
829
00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:56,930
I had really expected that he
would Grant relief because they
830
00:26:56,930 --> 00:26:57,560
would Grant relief because they
had presented a compelling case
831
00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:58,700
had presented a compelling case
of Mr. Elmore's innocence.
832
00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:59,300
Of Mr. Elmore's innocence.
>> Diana was discovering that
833
00:26:59,300 --> 00:26:59,930
>> Diana was discovering that
proving Mr. Elmore's innocence
834
00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:01,440
proving Mr. Elmore's innocence
was not enough.
835
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,030
Was not enough.
To get a new trial, elmore's
836
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,400
to get a new trial, elmore's
team would have to prove that
837
00:27:05,410 --> 00:27:06,410
team would have to prove that
elmore's constitutional rights
838
00:27:06,410 --> 00:27:07,410
elmore's constitutional rights
had been violated.
839
00:27:07,410 --> 00:27:08,170
Had been violated.
>> A person can be innocent but
840
00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:08,740
>> a person can be innocent but
as long as they get a fair
841
00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:09,270
as long as they get a fair
trial, that's all they're
842
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,910
trial, that's all they're
entitled to.
843
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,520
Entitled to.
Well, that begs the question.
844
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,180
Well, that begs the question.
Is it a fair trial if somebody
845
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:23,930
is it a fair trial if somebody
has lied?
846
00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:26,200
Has lied?
>> Diana's team immediately
847
00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:31,160
>> Diana's team immediately
appealed judge kinard's decision
848
00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:31,760
appealed judge kinard's decision
to the south Carolina supreme
849
00:27:31,770 --> 00:27:36,200
to the south Carolina supreme
court.
850
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:36,840
Court.
But in the meantime, the state
851
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,470
but in the meantime, the state
prosecutor, Donald Zelenka had
852
00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:39,170
prosecutor, Donald Zelenka had
discovered that Diana had a
853
00:27:39,170 --> 00:27:39,770
discovered that Diana had a
secret that if exposed could
854
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:40,380
secret that if exposed could
destroy her career and damage
855
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:44,690
destroy her career and damage
elmore's case.
856
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Elmore's case.
He would soon call her to a
857
00:27:45,250 --> 00:27:45,910
he would soon call her to a
deposition.
858
00:27:45,910 --> 00:27:46,680
Deposition.
>> Donald Zelenka asked have you
859
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,450
>> Donald Zelenka asked have you
ever done anything in the course
860
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:49,180
ever done anything in the course
of your life that would reflect
861
00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:49,820
of your life that would reflect
poorly on the legal profession?
862
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:58,420
Poorly on the legal profession?
And I said yes.
863
00:27:58,430 --> 00:28:08,900
And I said yes.
>>> While edwa
864
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:09,500
>>> while edwa
on death row, waiting for his
865
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:10,170
on death row, waiting for his
appeal to move forward, Diana
866
00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:10,900
appeal to move forward, Diana
holt took on other death penalty
867
00:28:10,910 --> 00:28:17,180
holt took on other death penalty
cases.
868
00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:17,780
Cases.
In one she was able to get a
869
00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:18,380
in one she was able to get a
last-minute stay of execution
870
00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:18,880
last-minute stay of execution
over the objections of
871
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,450
over the objections of
assistant Attorney General
872
00:28:19,450 --> 00:28:25,380
assistant Attorney General
Donald Zelenka.
873
00:28:25,390 --> 00:28:25,920
Donald Zelenka.
Zelenka was determined to
874
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,390
Zelenka was determined to
discredit Diana.
875
00:28:26,390 --> 00:28:27,150
Discredit Diana.
He dug through her past looking
876
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:35,400
he dug through her past looking
for anything to get her off the
877
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:35,890
for anything to get her off the
case.
878
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:36,530
Case.
In April 2000, he called her to
879
00:28:36,530 --> 00:28:36,860
in April 2000, he called her to
a deposition.
880
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:37,410
A deposition.
>> It was at the attorney
881
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:37,800
>> it was at the attorney
general's office.
882
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,700
General's office.
There were six attorneys across
883
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:42,300
there were six attorneys across
the table from me and all of
884
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:43,900
the table from me and all of
them lined up like this.
885
00:28:43,910 --> 00:28:44,910
Them lined up like this.
Looking.
886
00:28:44,910 --> 00:28:55,880
Looking.
Don Zelenka asked have you ever
887
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:56,520
Don Zelenka asked have you ever
done anything in the course of
888
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,120
done anything in the course of
your life that would reflect
889
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,750
your life that would reflect
poorly on the legal profession?
890
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:58,120
Poorly on the legal profession?
And I said yes.
891
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:04,390
And I said yes.
>> Diana feared that if her
892
00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:04,990
>> Diana feared that if her
story became public, it would
893
00:29:04,990 --> 00:29:05,620
story became public, it would
ruin her reputation and destroy
894
00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:06,190
ruin her reputation and destroy
elmore's chances for a new
895
00:29:06,190 --> 00:29:15,900
elmore's chances for a new
trial.
896
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:16,540
Trial.
In 1975 at the age of 17, Diana
897
00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:17,170
in 1975 at the age of 17, Diana
ran away to New Orleans with a
898
00:29:17,170 --> 00:29:20,640
ran away to New Orleans with a
few friends.
899
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,170
Few friends.
>> It was a horrible time.
900
00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:21,810
>> It was a horrible time.
My sister had been taken away by
901
00:29:21,810 --> 00:29:26,150
my sister had been taken away by
the state of Texas.
902
00:29:26,150 --> 00:29:26,780
The state of Texas.
It had to do with sexual abuse
903
00:29:26,780 --> 00:29:27,150
it had to do with sexual abuse
that I suffered.
904
00:29:27,150 --> 00:29:27,410
That I suffered.
I was 17.
905
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:28,060
I was 17.
I didn't know how to deal with
906
00:29:28,050 --> 00:29:36,160
I didn't know how to deal with
stuff like that.
907
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:36,420
Stuff like that.
So I left.
908
00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:36,960
So I left.
I met these three people.
909
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,690
I met these three people.
Went to New Orleans with them
910
00:29:37,690 --> 00:29:40,190
went to New Orleans with them
and after a little bit, I wanted
911
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,400
and after a little bit, I wanted
to go home.
912
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:42,960
To go home.
I didn't have any money and
913
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,900
I didn't have any money and
there was a plan.
914
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:47,170
There was a plan.
So I went to the French quarter,
915
00:29:47,170 --> 00:29:49,900
so I went to the French quarter,
started talking to this guy.
916
00:29:49,910 --> 00:29:50,910
Started talking to this guy.
And the ruse was that I would
917
00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:57,680
and the ruse was that I would
exchange sex for money.
918
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,310
Exchange sex for money.
We left bourbon street together,
919
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:59,910
we left bourbon street together,
got in his car and one of the
920
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,920
got in his car and one of the
two guys came in.
921
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,650
Two guys came in.
He got on the passenger side.
922
00:30:03,650 --> 00:30:06,890
He got on the passenger side.
I was scrunched in the middle.
923
00:30:06,890 --> 00:30:07,650
I was scrunched in the middle.
>> Diana's friend pulled a gun
924
00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:08,890
>> Diana's friend pulled a gun
and demanded money.
925
00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:16,930
And demanded money.
The driver gave them $60.
926
00:30:16,930 --> 00:30:17,560
The driver gave them $60.
They jumped out of the car and
927
00:30:17,570 --> 00:30:17,730
they jumped out of the car and
ran.
928
00:30:17,730 --> 00:30:18,330
Ran.
>> Made it about three blocks.
929
00:30:18,330 --> 00:30:18,960
>> Made it about three blocks.
Pulled over by the New Orleans
930
00:30:18,970 --> 00:30:19,570
pulled over by the New Orleans
police department, up against
931
00:30:19,570 --> 00:30:20,670
police department, up against
the wall.
932
00:30:20,670 --> 00:30:21,670
The wall.
The victim was a u.S. Marshal.
933
00:30:21,670 --> 00:30:26,940
The victim was a u.S. Marshal.
It's like dumb and dumber a
934
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:27,240
it's like dumb and dumber a
little bit.
935
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,170
Little bit.
What do you expect from an air
936
00:30:28,180 --> 00:30:30,640
what do you expect from an air
head 17-year-old.
937
00:30:30,650 --> 00:30:32,920
Head 17-year-old.
I pled guilty to armed robbery
938
00:30:32,910 --> 00:30:37,150
I pled guilty to armed robbery
and off I went to the Louisiana
939
00:30:37,150 --> 00:30:37,720
and off I went to the Louisiana
correctional institute for
940
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,420
correctional institute for
women.
941
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:42,420
Women.
One day, the prosecutor in my
942
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:45,890
one day, the prosecutor in my
case came to the prison to visit
943
00:30:45,890 --> 00:30:48,160
case came to the prison to visit
and he said, I just want you to
944
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:54,430
and he said, I just want you to
know that you don't have to be
945
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,170
know that you don't have to be
what you did that day, and you
946
00:30:57,170 --> 00:30:59,640
what you did that day, and you
can make it, and you can be
947
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,410
can make it, and you can be
somebody.
948
00:31:00,410 --> 00:31:15,150
Somebody.
And I'm still -- why wouldn't
949
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,720
and I'm still -- why wouldn't
every prosecutor want to do
950
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:24,930
every prosecutor want to do
that?
951
00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:25,560
That?
>> Diana began studying in the
952
00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:26,160
>> Diana began studying in the
prison's law library,
953
00:31:26,170 --> 00:31:26,900
prison's law library,
researching cases of fellow
954
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:27,530
researching cases of fellow
inmates and sending letters to
955
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:28,940
inmates and sending letters to
the presiding judges.
956
00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:31,900
The presiding judges.
She even had one woman's
957
00:31:31,910 --> 00:31:32,400
she even had one woman's
sentence reduced.
958
00:31:32,410 --> 00:31:33,410
Sentence reduced.
>> Doing the few things that did
959
00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:35,670
>> doing the few things that did
that made an impact, I want more
960
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,480
that made an impact, I want more
of that.
961
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,910
Of that.
I want to do more of that.
962
00:31:37,910 --> 00:31:38,910
I want to do more of that.
I want to help people like that.
963
00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:40,650
I want to help people like that.
>> A model prisoner, Diana was
964
00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:44,880
>> a model prisoner, Diana was
released in 1977 with a full
965
00:31:44,890 --> 00:31:46,420
released in 1977 with a full
pardon.
966
00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:47,920
Pardon.
The whole episode became a
967
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,160
the whole episode became a
distant memory until Donald
968
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,660
distant memory until Donald
Zelenka confronted her with it
969
00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:54,390
Zelenka confronted her with it
nearly 25 years later.
970
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Nearly 25 years later.
>> I was like, you know what?
971
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:56,900
>> I was like, you know what?
You opened the door.
972
00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:57,400
You opened the door.
I'm walking through it.
973
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,400
I'm walking through it.
Let's do this.
974
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,930
Let's do this.
I'm going to tell it all.
975
00:32:00,940 --> 00:32:01,530
I'm going to tell it all.
Not just the part you want to
976
00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:04,400
not just the part you want to
hear.
977
00:32:04,410 --> 00:32:05,000
Hear.
>> But the judge in the case,
978
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,910
>> but the judge in the case,
visibly disgusted by Zelenka's
979
00:32:06,910 --> 00:32:07,410
visibly disgusted by Zelenka's
tactic, disallowed the
980
00:32:07,410 --> 00:32:10,180
tactic, disallowed the
deposition.
981
00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:10,810
Deposition.
Diana could continue her fight
982
00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:16,180
Diana could continue her fight
for elmore's life.
983
00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:17,420
For elmore's life.
At elmore's trial, prosecutor
984
00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:18,920
at elmore's trial, prosecutor
Willie t. Had claimed that
985
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,650
Willie t. Had claimed that
negroid hair had been found on
986
00:32:19,650 --> 00:32:21,890
negroid hair had been found on
the body.
987
00:32:21,890 --> 00:32:23,660
The body.
When the petition had asked to
988
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:25,160
when the petition had asked to
see the hair it had gone
989
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,660
see the hair it had gone
missing.
990
00:32:26,660 --> 00:32:28,160
Missing.
Now 16 years later, the hair
991
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,400
now 16 years later, the hair
suddenly turned up.
992
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:30,930
Suddenly turned up.
>> The prosecution has an
993
00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:34,900
>> the prosecution has an
obligation to turn over to the
994
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:35,430
obligation to turn over to the
defense anything which is
995
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,170
defense anything which is
favorable.
996
00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:38,400
Favorable.
In this case, they didn't do it
997
00:32:38,410 --> 00:32:40,170
in this case, they didn't do it
at the time of trial.
998
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:40,820
At the time of trial.
>> As it turns out, none of the
999
00:32:40,810 --> 00:32:44,410
>> as it turns out, none of the
hairs were negroid at all.
1000
00:32:44,410 --> 00:32:45,010
Hairs were negroid at all.
They were all Caucasian hair,
1001
00:32:45,010 --> 00:32:46,180
they were all Caucasian hair,
and they did not belong to Mr.
1002
00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:47,180
And they did not belong to Mr.
elmore.
1003
00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:51,920
Elmore.
>> And that should be sufficient
1004
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,420
>> and that should be sufficient
to warrant a new trial.
1005
00:32:52,420 --> 00:32:53,920
To warrant a new trial.
>> We got all excited.
1006
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,650
>> We got all excited.
Asked for the judge to set a
1007
00:32:54,660 --> 00:32:57,160
asked for the judge to set a
hearing.
1008
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,160
Hearing.
It was December 20th or 21st.
1009
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,930
It was December 20th or 21st.
We were going to have Christmas
1010
00:33:01,930 --> 00:33:09,170
we were going to have Christmas
beyond all christmases.
1011
00:33:09,170 --> 00:33:12,140
Beyond all christmases.
>> On December 21st, 2000, a new
1012
00:33:12,140 --> 00:33:15,170
>> on December 21st, 2000, a new
hearing was held.
1013
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:16,680
Hearing was held.
If a new trial were to be
1014
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,910
if a new trial were to be
granted, elmore could be
1015
00:33:17,910 --> 00:33:18,640
granted, elmore could be
released on bail and join his
1016
00:33:18,650 --> 00:33:21,650
released on bail and join his
family for the holidays after
1017
00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:24,920
family for the holidays after
more than 18 years on death row.
1018
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,150
More than 18 years on death row.
>> All rise.
1019
00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:27,420
>> All rise.
>> Judge Ernest kinard again
1020
00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:29,390
>> judge Ernest kinard again
presided, the same judge who hat
1021
00:33:29,390 --> 00:33:34,690
presided, the same judge who hat
stated that elmore may well not
1022
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:35,890
stated that elmore may well not
be guilty.
1023
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:37,430
Be guilty.
>> Lab corps has sent US a
1024
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:38,430
>> lab corps has sent US a
report indicating there are
1025
00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:40,930
report indicating there are
hairs from someone other than
1026
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:41,580
hairs from someone other than
Dorothy Edwards and there were
1027
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:42,030
Dorothy Edwards and there were
no hairs of anyone of
1028
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440
no hairs of anyone of
African-American descent.
1029
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,440
African-American descent.
>> He acknowledged the evidence
1030
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,670
>> he acknowledged the evidence
should have been given to the
1031
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,180
should have been given to the
defense but argued only one of
1032
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:50,810
defense but argued only one of
the hairs had sufficient DNA to
1033
00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:51,010
the hairs had sufficient DNA to
read.
1034
00:33:51,010 --> 00:33:53,180
Read.
>> We do not dispute the
1035
00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:54,410
>> we do not dispute the
materials recovered from the
1036
00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:55,910
materials recovered from the
victim's body at the time of the
1037
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,420
victim's body at the time of the
autopsy.
1038
00:33:57,420 --> 00:33:58,920
Autopsy.
One hair, not hairs.
1039
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,150
One hair, not hairs.
One hair.
1040
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,390
One hair.
>> It was merely another hair in
1041
00:34:03,390 --> 00:34:03,690
>> it was merely another hair in
the bedroom.
1042
00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:04,160
The bedroom.
Of Mrs. Edwards.
1043
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Of Mrs. Edwards.
This is a completely different
1044
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,390
this is a completely different
case than what the jury heard.
1045
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,670
Case than what the jury heard.
In the final analysis, the
1046
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:10,900
in the final analysis, the
question really is if not now,
1047
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:12,660
question really is if not now,
when?
1048
00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:16,170
When?
If this is not enough to Grant
1049
00:34:16,170 --> 00:34:16,800
if this is not enough to Grant
somebody a new trial, then when
1050
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:17,450
somebody a new trial, then when
is post conviction relief ever
1051
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,910
is post conviction relief ever
appropriate?
1052
00:34:19,910 --> 00:34:20,510
Appropriate?
>> Unexpectedly, rather than
1053
00:34:20,510 --> 00:34:21,170
>> unexpectedly, rather than
adjourn and read the filings
1054
00:34:21,180 --> 00:34:27,180
adjourn and read the filings
before ruling, the judge issued
1055
00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:27,710
before ruling, the judge issued
his decision on the spot.
1056
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,190
His decision on the spot.
>> All motions are denied.
1057
00:34:30,190 --> 00:34:30,830
>> All motions are denied.
>> The judge said, one hair is
1058
00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:35,190
>> the judge said, one hair is
not enough.
1059
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:37,920
Not enough.
I'm out of here.
1060
00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:38,520
I'm out of here.
>> In this case, there are a
1061
00:34:38,530 --> 00:34:39,160
>> in this case, there are a
number of things that stink and
1062
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,790
number of things that stink and
if you look at it as a whole, it
1063
00:34:39,790 --> 00:34:46,670
if you look at it as a whole, it
doesn't just stink, it reeks.
1064
00:34:46,670 --> 00:34:47,930
Doesn't just stink, it reeks.
>> An execution date was set for
1065
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:49,170
>> an execution date was set for
elmore.
1066
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:50,940
Elmore.
He was placed in a high security
1067
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:52,900
he was placed in a high security
lockdown cell while awaiting his
1068
00:34:52,910 --> 00:34:59,140
lockdown cell while awaiting his
date with the electric chair.
1069
00:34:59,150 --> 00:34:59,710
Date with the electric chair.
Now a mere three weeks away.
1070
00:34:59,710 --> 00:35:00,350
Now a mere three weeks away.
>> I tried my hardest to get him
1071
00:35:00,350 --> 00:35:04,150
>> I tried my hardest to get him
ready for it.
1072
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:11,160
Ready for it.
And he called me one day and he
1073
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,660
and he called me one day and he
said, are they going to kill me?
1074
00:35:13,660 --> 00:35:15,460
Said, are they going to kill me?
I think I told him in the most
1075
00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:16,660
I think I told him in the most
simple terms I could tell him
1076
00:35:16,660 --> 00:35:22,170
simple terms I could tell him
that they were going to have to
1077
00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:34,380
that they were going to have to
take me out first.
1078
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:37,620
Take me out first.
>>> After 22 years on death row,
1079
00:35:37,620 --> 00:35:39,550
>>> after 22 years on death row,
Edward elmore was in lockdown, a
1080
00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:40,720
Edward elmore was in lockdown, a
special holding cell for inmates
1081
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,620
special holding cell for inmates
awaiting execution.
1082
00:35:43,630 --> 00:35:45,270
Awaiting execution.
With only 23 days to go, Diana
1083
00:35:45,260 --> 00:35:46,360
with only 23 days to go, Diana
filed a last-minute appeal and
1084
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,430
filed a last-minute appeal and
got a stay of execution.
1085
00:35:48,430 --> 00:35:49,190
Got a stay of execution.
But this was only a temporary
1086
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,230
but this was only a temporary
solution.
1087
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:53,530
Solution.
If elmore was to survive, they
1088
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:57,380
if elmore was to survive, they
would need a new strategy.
1089
00:35:57,370 --> 00:35:58,940
Would need a new strategy.
>> The supreme court issued a
1090
00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:01,610
>> the supreme court issued a
landmark death penalty decision.
1091
00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:03,410
Landmark death penalty decision.
>> And a supreme court decision
1092
00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:04,380
>> and a supreme court decision
from 2002 gave them an
1093
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:06,310
from 2002 gave them an
opportunity.
1094
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:07,550
Opportunity.
>> In a stunning reversal of
1095
00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:12,520
>> in a stunning reversal of
course, the u.S. Supreme court
1096
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,150
course, the u.S. Supreme court
today ruled executing mentally
1097
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,620
today ruled executing mentally
disabled criminals is
1098
00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:16,020
disabled criminals is
unconstitutional.
1099
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:16,760
Unconstitutional.
>> The question was whether
1100
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,460
>> the question was whether
elmore was in fact mentally
1101
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:18,090
elmore was in fact mentally
disabled.
1102
00:36:18,090 --> 00:36:19,190
Disabled.
>> He was tested.
1103
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:25,260
>> He was tested.
And the state department of
1104
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:26,330
and the state department of
disabilities and special needs
1105
00:36:26,330 --> 00:36:27,370
disabilities and special needs
that finds Edward Lee elmore is
1106
00:36:27,370 --> 00:36:28,700
that finds Edward Lee elmore is
mentally retarded.
1107
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:29,570
Mentally retarded.
>> Elmore's death sentence was
1108
00:36:29,570 --> 00:36:32,400
>> elmore's death sentence was
commuted to life in prison.
1109
00:36:32,410 --> 00:36:33,870
Commuted to life in prison.
After nearly 28 years, elmore
1110
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,250
after nearly 28 years, elmore
was finally leaving death row.
1111
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:40,090
Was finally leaving death row.
1112
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,680
Sorry, that's exactly what I
1113
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,280
sorry, that's exactly what I
did.
1114
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,750
Did.
I get Mr. Elmore on the phone.
1115
00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:45,350
I get Mr. Elmore on the phone.
I say hey, you're going to be
1116
00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:47,190
I say hey, you're going to be
leaving death row.
1117
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:48,720
Leaving death row.
I'm not going to die?
1118
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:53,230
I'm not going to die?
No, well, not there.
1119
00:36:53,230 --> 00:36:54,660
No, well, not there.
>> Elmore's life had been
1120
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:55,790
>> elmore's life had been
spared.
1121
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,830
Spared.
But Diana hadn't fought for
1122
00:36:56,830 --> 00:36:57,530
but Diana hadn't fought for
years to see elmore die behind
1123
00:36:57,530 --> 00:37:00,170
years to see elmore die behind
bars.
1124
00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:01,270
Bars.
Her team had one last hope to
1125
00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:04,340
her team had one last hope to
get him a new trial.
1126
00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:06,300
Get him a new trial.
The u.S. 4th circuit court of
1127
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:07,910
the u.S. 4th circuit court of
appeals would be the highest
1128
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:08,710
appeals would be the highest
court ever to hear elmore's
1129
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:10,880
court ever to hear elmore's
case.
1130
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,010
Case.
>> The 4th circuit has the
1131
00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:13,410
>> the 4th circuit has the
reputation of being the most
1132
00:37:13,410 --> 00:37:14,180
reputation of being the most
conservative federal appellate
1133
00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:15,880
conservative federal appellate
court in the country.
1134
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,320
Court in the country.
So we felt our chances of
1135
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,350
so we felt our chances of
prevailing were very slight.
1136
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,130
Prevailing were very slight.
>> In yet another face-off with
1137
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,390
>> in yet another face-off with
Donald Zelenka, the court's
1138
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,540
Donald Zelenka, the court's
three-judge panel heard
1139
00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:29,190
three-judge panel heard
oral arguments in September of
1140
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,100
oral arguments in September of
2010, and remarkably, they came
1141
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:32,160
2010, and remarkably, they came
down hard on Zelenka.
1142
00:37:32,170 --> 00:37:33,370
Down hard on Zelenka.
>> The time of death, we were
1143
00:37:33,370 --> 00:37:35,070
>> the time of death, we were
locking it down because the
1144
00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:35,970
locking it down because the
defendant was seen at 9:30
1145
00:37:35,970 --> 00:37:38,500
defendant was seen at 9:30
headed that direction.
1146
00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:39,970
Headed that direction.
>> Locking down the time of
1147
00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:40,570
>> locking down the time of
death based on what his alibi
1148
00:37:40,580 --> 00:37:41,120
death based on what his alibi
was.
1149
00:37:41,110 --> 00:37:41,740
Was.
I thought you locked down time
1150
00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:45,110
I thought you locked down time
of death by science.
1151
00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:46,610
Of death by science.
>> The judges have moral
1152
00:37:46,610 --> 00:37:48,280
>> the judges have moral
righteous indignation in their
1153
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,710
righteous indignation in their
voices and what they're saying.
1154
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,950
Voices and what they're saying.
>> You put in evidence there was
1155
00:37:51,950 --> 00:37:53,220
>> you put in evidence there was
hairs found on the bed there was
1156
00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:53,820
hairs found on the bed there was
a big part of the conviction?
1157
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:54,750
A big part of the conviction?
>> Yes, it was.
1158
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,990
>> Yes, it was.
>> Not one photograph was taken
1159
00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:01,790
>> not one photograph was taken
of the bed where these hairs
1160
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,360
of the bed where these hairs
supposedly were.
1161
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,930
Supposedly were.
Does that make sense to you?
1162
00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:03,400
Does that make sense to you?
>> Well, I don't know.
1163
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,000
>> Well, I don't know.
>> Do you think that makes a
1164
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,630
>> do you think that makes a
difference now that we know he
1165
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:05,100
difference now that we know he
is mentally retarded?
1166
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:05,530
Is mentally retarded?
>> No, not at all.
1167
00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:06,160
>> No, not at all.
>> In this case, this is just a
1168
00:38:06,170 --> 00:38:08,100
>> in this case, this is just a
constellation of problems.
1169
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,530
Constellation of problems.
>> Even though the judges seem
1170
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:11,140
>> even though the judges seem
to be raising some serious
1171
00:38:11,140 --> 00:38:12,570
to be raising some serious
questions, I came out of the
1172
00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:14,440
questions, I came out of the
argument feeling negative about
1173
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,210
argument feeling negative about
our prospects.
1174
00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:18,010
Our prospects.
I didn't think the court had
1175
00:38:18,010 --> 00:38:18,740
I didn't think the court had
much incentive to overturn his
1176
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:20,510
much incentive to overturn his
conviction.
1177
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,290
Conviction.
>> We didn't hear anything for
1178
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,550
>> we didn't hear anything for
month after month.
1179
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,280
Month after month.
14 months went by.
1180
00:38:25,290 --> 00:38:27,350
14 months went by.
And then I get an e-mail in my
1181
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,930
and then I get an e-mail in my
inbox.
1182
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,060
Inbox.
Heart stops.
1183
00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:34,260
Heart stops.
I start hyperventilating.
1184
00:38:34,260 --> 00:38:36,860
I start hyperventilating.
I clicked on it, and the opinion
1185
00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:40,670
I clicked on it, and the opinion
is 190-something pages long.
1186
00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:42,530
Is 190-something pages long.
And where is the good part?
1187
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,240
And where is the good part?
>> The most conservative
1188
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,870
>> the most conservative
appellate court in the nation
1189
00:38:45,870 --> 00:38:47,870
appellate court in the nation
had ruled 2-1 that elmore
1190
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,320
had ruled 2-1 that elmore
deserved a new trial.
1191
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:51,440
Deserved a new trial.
>> Everyone in the death penalty
1192
00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:53,140
>> everyone in the death penalty
community, what happened?
1193
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:53,850
Community, what happened?
We don't win like that, and not
1194
00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:56,580
we don't win like that, and not
there.
1195
00:38:56,580 --> 00:38:58,420
There.
But we did.
1196
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:00,520
But we did.
>> The state was reluctant to
1197
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,990
>> the state was reluctant to
retry the case, knowing the
1198
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:03,420
retry the case, knowing the
evidence the defense had
1199
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,620
evidence the defense had
unearthed could implicate both
1200
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:06,570
unearthed could implicate both
police and prosecutors.
1201
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,590
Police and prosecutors.
So they offered elmore a plea
1202
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,240
so they offered elmore a plea
bargain.
1203
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:11,960
Bargain.
>> And the prosecutor asked is
1204
00:39:11,970 --> 00:39:14,430
>> and the prosecutor asked is
there anything short of outright
1205
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440
there anything short of outright
dismissal of all charges that we
1206
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,970
dismissal of all charges that we
can do to settle this matter?
1207
00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:22,340
Can do to settle this matter?
And I said in fact there is.
1208
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:23,980
And I said in fact there is.
He goes free at the bond
1209
00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:25,310
he goes free at the bond
hearing, and he is going to
1210
00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:26,610
hearing, and he is going to
continue to say the truth he
1211
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:27,310
continue to say the truth he
said all of these years, i'm
1212
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,190
said all of these years, i'm
innocent.
1213
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:32,680
Innocent.
And the prosecutor said okay.
1214
00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:34,550
And the prosecutor said okay.
>> But the plea required that
1215
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,260
>> but the plea required that
elmore say in open court that
1216
00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:37,390
elmore say in open court that
the state could likely prove
1217
00:39:37,390 --> 00:39:38,290
the state could likely prove
their charges against him at a
1218
00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:40,730
their charges against him at a
trial.
1219
00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:41,930
Trial.
It wasn't the exoneration they
1220
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:43,130
it wasn't the exoneration they
were hoping for, but it would
1221
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:44,930
were hoping for, but it would
mean freedom.
1222
00:39:44,930 --> 00:39:46,000
Mean freedom.
>> New tonight, he was once on
1223
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,730
>> new tonight, he was once on
death row.
1224
00:39:46,730 --> 00:39:49,270
Death row.
Now he is a free man.
1225
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:50,240
Now he is a free man.
After 30 years, Edward elmore
1226
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,600
after 30 years, Edward elmore
was released from prison today.
1227
00:39:51,610 --> 00:39:56,540
Was released from prison today.
>> Thank the lord.
1228
00:39:56,540 --> 00:39:58,240
>> Thank the lord.
Give me a minute.
1229
00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:58,880
Give me a minute.
I'm a little overwhelmed right
1230
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:06,320
I'm a little overwhelmed right
now.
1231
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,190
Now.
Just so excited, I couldn't
1232
00:40:08,190 --> 00:40:09,090
just so excited, I couldn't
hardly speak.
1233
00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:11,260
Hardly speak.
Locked up all them years
1234
00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:13,160
locked up all them years
something I didn't do, and comes
1235
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,230
something I didn't do, and comes
along, she believed in me.
1236
00:40:17,230 --> 00:40:21,530
Along, she believed in me.
>> Were you afraid of dying?
1237
00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:23,100
>> Were you afraid of dying?
>> Not in a way, but like I say,
1238
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:23,770
>> not in a way, but like I say,
I knew the truth would
1239
00:40:23,770 --> 00:40:25,340
I knew the truth would
eventually come out, right.
1240
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:29,840
Eventually come out, right.
That's kept me going.
1241
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,840
That's kept me going.
It kept my faith right, and just
1242
00:40:30,850 --> 00:40:32,750
it kept my faith right, and just
taking it one day at a time.
1243
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:35,210
Taking it one day at a time.
That's all you can do, you know,
1244
00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:35,880
that's all you can do, you know,
and hope and pray that
1245
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,980
and hope and pray that
everything come out all right.
1246
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:39,490
Everything come out all right.
>> Mr. Elmore had been
1247
00:40:39,490 --> 00:40:43,250
>> Mr. Elmore had been
incarcerated for 11,000 days.
1248
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:44,420
Incarcerated for 11,000 days.
The judge told Mr. Elmore that
1249
00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:45,770
the judge told Mr. Elmore that
he had exhausted his sentence
1250
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,790
he had exhausted his sentence
and he was free to go.
1251
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,330
And he was free to go.
You are free to go, Mr. Elmore.
1252
00:40:54,340 --> 00:40:55,810
You are free to go, Mr. Elmore.
>> We could walk him out that
1253
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,240
>> we could walk him out that
door of the courtroom and down
1254
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:01,570
door of the courtroom and down
those steps as a free man.
1255
00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:07,610
Those steps as a free man.
And that was -- I'm sorry.
1256
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:11,660
And that was -- I'm sorry.
That was the best moment of my
1257
00:41:11,650 --> 00:41:17,760
that was the best moment of my
life as an attorney.
1258
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,490
Life as an attorney.
>> Elmore moved back in with his
1259
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:22,190
>> elmore moved back in with his
sister, and has begun the
1260
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,190
sister, and has begun the
process of adjusting to a world
1261
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:23,960
process of adjusting to a world
very different from the one he
1262
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:26,010
very different from the one he
left.
1263
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,800
Left.
>> So much had changed, you
1264
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,400
>> so much had changed, you
know, since -- trying to get
1265
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,340
know, since -- trying to get
used to everything.
1266
00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:32,840
Used to everything.
Still trying to adjust to
1267
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,940
still trying to adjust to
things.
1268
00:41:33,940 --> 00:41:35,410
Things.
It's so technical, right, phones
1269
00:41:35,410 --> 00:41:35,970
it's so technical, right, phones
and computers and all that
1270
00:41:35,980 --> 00:41:38,540
and computers and all that
stuff.
1271
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:41,910
Stuff.
It's really, really hard.
1272
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,580
It's really, really hard.
I'm trying to learn how, you
1273
00:41:42,580 --> 00:41:43,080
I'm trying to learn how, you
know.
1274
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,520
Know.
I'm trying to cope with it.
1275
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,820
I'm trying to cope with it.
>> Eddie's case taught me a lot
1276
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:48,390
>> Eddie's case taught me a lot
of things about our justice
1277
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:50,490
of things about our justice
system.
1278
00:41:50,490 --> 00:41:52,120
System.
It taught me to be distrustful,
1279
00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:54,230
it taught me to be distrustful,
skeptical.
1280
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:54,960
Skeptical.
Geography can make the
1281
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,460
geography can make the
difference.
1282
00:41:56,460 --> 00:41:57,560
Difference.
Money, of course.
1283
00:41:57,570 --> 00:42:00,710
Money, of course.
Gender, of course.
1284
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:01,870
Gender, of course.
Race is the one that is just a
1285
00:42:01,870 --> 00:42:05,740
race is the one that is just a
dagger to the heart.
1286
00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:06,470
Dagger to the heart.
But it also taught me to never
1287
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:08,570
but it also taught me to never
give up on it.
1288
00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:11,240
Give up on it.
That even 30 years later,
1289
00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:14,520
that even 30 years later,
someone will listen.
1290
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,490
Someone will listen.
As long as you don't give up,
1291
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:29,460
as long as you don't give up,
justice is possible.
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