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There were rifles, clubs. 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Many things. 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,000 If you were a Hutu, you were free to go. You could pass and go wherever you wanted. 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,400 But if you were a Tutsi... 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,680 -[in Rwanda-Rundi] Your ID! -I am not a Tutsi! 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,920 [man 1] You were in trouble. 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,080 [in Rwanda-Rundi] Did you see your nose? 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,040 [in Rwanda-Rundi] She's a Tutsi warrior! 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,280 [in Rwanda-Rundi] You want to die? 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,760 Bring the papers! Kill her! 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,320 [man 1, in French] They killed my mother, 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,280 my two older brothers, my younger brother, and my sister. 24 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,320 [newscaster] Rwanda is a country that was torn apart by hate 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,960 and now lives with a legacy of genocide. 26 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,440 It began when members of the Hutu tribe 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,680 began slaughtering members of the minority Tutsi tribe. 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,680 [man 1, in French] The machetes were bought... 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,440 by Kabuga. We all know that. 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Of course, everyone knows it. 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,800 [sinister tune] 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,240 [car honking] 33 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,200 [chanting, in Rwanda-Rundi] 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,720 [woman crying] 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,000 Félicien Kabuga is responsible directly for the arming of people who killed 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,800 over 800,000 people. 37 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,160 [in French] Félicien Kabuga financed the genocide. 38 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,360 Nothing could have been possible without money. 39 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,240 [click] 40 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,760 [in Rwanda-Rundi] I hope God will help us to exterminate them, 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,320 and to organize ourselves to exterminate this bad race. 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,240 [click] 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,120 It's the-- the men often behind the scenes, 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,880 you know, those with-- with clean fingernails, 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,080 who may not even need to raise their voice 46 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,160 that-- that do the greatest evil. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,600 He's a business man, a smart man, he knew who to pay off... 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,560 who could help him with protection. 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,880 [man 2] Félicien Kabuga is among 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,440 five to about seven of the world's most wanted people. 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,080 Five million dollars on his head. 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,840 [sirens wailing] 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,960 [man 3, in French] Félicien Kabuga is an exceptional figure 54 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,080 both for cruelty and perversity. 55 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:17,440 That's why I will never forgive myself for his escape from us. 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,760 [opening theme music] 57 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,520 [ominous tune] 58 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,680 [female narrator, in English] Félicien Kabuga is an international fugitive 59 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,200 wanted for his participation in the murders 60 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,520 of more than 800,000 Rwandans during the 1994 genocide. 61 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:11,080 The FBI searches for the suspected financial backer of the atrocities. 62 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,320 [gate clicks shut] 63 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,640 [man 4] My name is Pierre Prosper. 64 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,120 I put up a five million dollar reward to find Félicien Kabuga. 65 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,040 In 2001, I became the US Ambassador at Large for war crimes issues. 66 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,840 And we began 67 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,880 to-- to formulate a plan to go after these, uh... 68 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,760 leaders and organizers of the Rwandan genocide. 69 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,280 His name just kept coming up at the very top 70 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,680 of the people wanted. 71 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Before that I was a US prosecutor. 72 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,640 I was in a hard core gang unit. 73 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,960 So I was used to seeing death and destruction. 74 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,800 But I was not prepared for... 75 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,520 seeing the consequences of a genocide. 76 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 [high-pitched ringing] 77 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,520 [Prosper] When I walked into Rwanda 78 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,200 I was shocked. 79 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,600 I was shocked by the depth of inhumanity that took place. 80 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,160 This was hand-to-hand combat. 81 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,840 And that individuals were walking up to their victims, 82 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,040 cutting their Achilles heel so they couldn't run, 83 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,480 and then chopping them up. 84 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,680 [indistinct chattering, in Rwanda-Rundi] 85 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,360 [Prosper] We realized that 86 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,040 someone had to be behind this operation, to finance. 87 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,400 We learned that Kabuga very early on was responsible 88 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,600 for bringing in... machetes. 89 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,440 [in Rwanda-Rundi] Kabuga distributed weapons and ammunition. 90 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,240 The militiamen were also given money, uniforms... 91 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,200 and they also had meetings... 92 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,200 and all met directly in Kabuga's office. 93 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,440 I even saw with my own eyes... 94 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,040 machetes delivered in a truck... 95 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:43,040 directly in his office in Muhima. 96 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,920 And then, the murders began! 97 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,040 The enemy was the Tutsis. 98 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:10,480 [Prosper] There were reports that machetes were being brought in 99 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,080 in the hundreds of thousands. 100 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,960 In our investigation we were able to learn that Kabuga... 101 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,840 was the one who was financing the importing of these machetes. 102 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,680 There were hundreds of thousand machetes that were brought in all at once. 103 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,680 We looked at the fact that the machetes were then distributed to militia. 104 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,880 In order to take the lives of the Tutsi population. 105 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,880 We could see Kabuga right at the top. 106 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Right after the genocide in 1994, 107 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,000 you can imagine in a Rwanda context, 108 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,000 when you had about one million people killed in one hundred days, 109 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,000 that many of the leaders decided to flee. 110 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,480 And our goal was to go pursue them. 111 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,040 But the perpetrators began to scatter 112 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,080 all over the world. 113 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:43,840 [man 3, in French] The hunt for Kabuga starts in Switzerland. 114 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,880 One day, I get a phone call from a member of the Tutsi community in Switzerland... 115 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,480 telling me that Félicien Kabuga... 116 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,000 is in Switzerland with his family, and that he has applied for asylum. 117 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,920 [ominous tune] 118 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,920 [man 5, in French] Back... back then, it was a refugee registration center. 119 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Mr. Kabuga arrived here 120 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:31,480 with two minibus cars, with a lot of suitcases. 121 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:37,400 So, an unusual way to enter a refugee registration center. 122 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,200 The others usually came with a small backpack 123 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,680 and they had nothing else. 124 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,840 [in French] He arrives, most likely 125 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,000 by quickly obtaining a visa for Switzerland, 126 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,920 because he had had one previously, because he's also a rich man. 127 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,800 [TV opening credits tune ] 128 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,680 [newscaster, in French] Félicien Kabuga arrived in Switzerland on July 22 129 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,560 even though he was blacklisted by the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs. 130 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,960 Until the end of July, 131 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,240 Félicien Kabuga seems to be spending quiet days in Bern. 132 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:13,280 He apparently stays in this hotel. 133 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,480 [Pitteloud, in French] I witnessed what happened in Rwanda, 134 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,920 and it's been haunting me for years. 135 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,160 For me, it's the burned children that I saw. 136 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,040 I still have nightmares [scoffs] about them. 137 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,240 I am, I must confess, horrified... 138 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,800 horrified, that my country could offer asylum 139 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,160 to a genocidist. 140 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Given the special functions that I had back then, 141 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,880 I heard rumors. 142 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,120 I heard rumors that Félicien Kabuga 143 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,320 was about to be deported from Switzerland. 144 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:10,560 So I called the director of the Federal Office for Foreigners. 145 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:13,080 And I remember telling him, 146 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,960 "You can't let this war criminal leave." 147 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,680 And then, a couple days later, 148 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,480 I learned that Félicien Kabuga 149 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,040 had boarded a plane in Geneva. 150 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,360 I was overwhelmed with a feeling of rage and powerlessness. 151 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:40,760 FÉLICIEN KABUGA DEPORTED 152 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,880 KABUGA CASE: OPEN INVESTIGATION 153 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:46,920 [sinister tune] 154 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 [in French] He had his bank account here. 155 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,400 It was a well credited account of course, that of a millionaire. 156 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,800 And he was given time to completely empty his account. 157 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,520 He left Switzerland with all his money. 158 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:23,680 He even managed to leave with a ticket paid for by Switzerland, 159 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,080 with his whole family. 160 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,640 This is unbelievable. 161 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,840 [Pitteloud, in French] It's a decision of political cowardice 162 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,120 to say, "We are not going to burden ourselves with a trial 163 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,600 in violation of human rights in a distant country." 164 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,160 The easiest is to put this gentleman on a plane. 165 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,440 [thunderclaps] 166 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,680 [suspenseful tune] 167 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,920 [Ceppi, in French] At that moment, for me, it is incomprehension, it's anger. 168 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:05,680 For Switzerland, 169 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,960 homeland of human rights, which hosts the United Nations, 170 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,320 to not anticipate this serious issue, 171 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,480 at least for the sake of prevention, keep Mr. Kabuga 172 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,520 in Switzerland in order to clarify the case, 173 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,840 for me it is completely incomprehensible. 174 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,960 Absolutely incomprehensible, still now. 175 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,680 [thunder rumbling] 176 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,840 [Prosper] We were not ready for the genocide. 177 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,280 And not ready for the aftermath of the genocide. 178 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,840 Mechanisms need to be put in place to prevent 179 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,480 movement of these perpetrators. 180 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,160 Those mechanisms were not in place. 181 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,360 So they were able to move about freely. 182 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,480 [cars honking] 183 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,320 [dramatic tune] 184 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,560 [man, in French] After leaving Switzerland, 185 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Kabuga left for Kinshasa. 186 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,560 Kinshasa is certainly a big city, 187 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,000 but with few international class hotels. 188 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,880 There were just two back then. 189 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,640 So, we thought we had one in two chances to find the right one. 190 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,520 And we decide to try to find him. 191 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,240 We go to Intercontinental. And I decided to go for it. 192 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,200 I went to the reception and said, 193 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,920 "We would like to talk to Mr. Félicien Kabuga." 194 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,320 The receptionist looks in her sheets 195 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,680 and says, "It's this room, I'll call him." 196 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,800 She calls, I introduce myself, 197 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,320 journalist from Swiss Radio. 198 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,280 He accepts, and we go up to Félicien Kabuga's room. 199 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,800 [elevator dings] 200 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,000 [man speaking indistinctly, in French] 201 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,080 [in French] ...to see a doctor or for business. 202 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,960 But beyond that, he didn't know anyone. 203 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,320 [Fontaine, in French] He was with his family, 204 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,920 so his children and wife were in the other room. 205 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,720 He was totally calm. 206 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,040 He thought it was unfair that he was deported 207 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,160 since he followed the procedure to seek asylum. 208 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,640 [indistinct background conversation] 209 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,560 [Fontaine] He decides to speak in his own language, 210 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,280 and his daughter translates. 211 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,640 [in Rwanda-Rundi] Did they ask you questions when you arrived in Geneva? 212 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,840 [replies in Rwanda-Rundi] 213 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,360 [Kabuga's Daughter, in French] There was no particular question, 214 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,400 the visa was valid. 215 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,720 He entered as he would usually enter. 216 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,560 [Fontaine, in French] Of course, he denied any direct involvement in the genocide. 217 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,720 He described himself as a businessman 218 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,200 who invested in different companies in Rwanda, 219 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,240 including the Radio des Mille Collines. 220 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,640 [in Rwanda-Rundi] I was just a shareholder and I was not the only one. 221 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,280 We invested in a simple commercial radio. 222 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,240 We just wanted the radio to be a success and be open to those 223 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,320 who wanted to advertise on it. 224 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,640 [Fontaine, in French] By then, we already knew 225 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,200 that Radio des Mille Collines 226 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,760 was one of the main instigators of the genocide. 227 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,680 [click] 228 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 [in Rwanda-Rundi] Tutsi-cockroaches want to harm our daily lives! 229 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,040 These people are very bad, 230 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,640 their race is bad. 231 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,320 [click] 232 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,560 [speech on radio, in Rwanda-Rundi] 233 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,800 [man, in French] Kabuga was one of the founders and a major financier 234 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,280 of Radio television libre des Mille Collines... 235 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,640 established in 1993. 236 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:54,880 [click] 237 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,800 [in Rwanda-Rundi] Dear audience, it's RTLM! Kigali's free radio, 238 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,120 which broadcasts on 106.94! 239 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,720 [radio broadcast continues] 240 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:04,960 [click] 241 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,560 Without the radio, 242 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,360 in my view, the genocide would have never reached the magnitude 243 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,760 that it actually did. 244 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,240 They would not have been able to mobilize 245 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,480 effectively an entire population against a particular group. 246 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,360 The radio was... 247 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,880 probably the most powerful weapon in the genocide. 248 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,640 [ominous tune] 249 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,600 [RTLM presenter 1, in Rwanda-Rundi] Dear audience, it's RTLM! 250 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Kigali's free radio, which broadcasts on 106.94! 251 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,520 There's no Tutsi as rich as Kabuga! So stop bragging! 252 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,120 I'm not joking, you'll be exterminated. 253 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Let's organize to eliminate them all 254 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,280 so that our children and great grandchildren never ever hear 255 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,080 about the thing we call "Tutsis". 256 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,120 [click] 257 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,520 [RTLM presenter 2, in Rwanda-Rundi] As I often tell you, 258 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,840 Tutsi cockroaches eat human flesh and they are cannibals. 259 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,360 [rewind, click] 260 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,400 [RTLM presenter 2] Cockroaches resist! 261 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,160 They are annoying because we kill them over and over, 262 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,160 we crush them, but it's impossible to exterminate them! 263 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,160 [click] 264 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,880 [RTLM presenter 2, in French] I had, it's true, 265 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,960 a very strong voice against the Tutsis. 266 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:37,080 We said that they are animals that can kill you. 267 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,600 The little children of the Tutsis... 268 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,600 were also enemies. 269 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,920 They will kill you once they grow up. 270 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,400 At the time, we thought it was true. I thought it was true. 271 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:51,960 We knew... 272 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,360 we knew very well that it was Kabuga who was the big boss. 273 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,320 I saw him all the time because he came to the radio. 274 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,200 I saw him several times... several times. 275 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,520 He was the ideologue. 276 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,760 If he had not been an ideologue, 277 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:13,000 he couldn't have established this radio 278 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:14,920 and given the line to follow. 279 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,200 [dramatic tune] 280 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,680 [Bizimana, in French] Félicien Kabuga was the richest man in Rwanda. 281 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,560 He was a very successful businessman from the north of the country. 282 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,920 [man 1, in Rwanda-Rundi] Kabuga was so rich 283 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,960 that when someone in the neighborhood got rich, 284 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,000 we called him a "Kabuga". 285 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,240 He was comparable to a soccer star. 286 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,400 When he passed, everyone recognized his car. 287 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,080 He was shining through. But no one ever saw his face. 288 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,160 [Prosper] So as he built that wealth, 289 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,280 he also built the political connections 290 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:21,560 with all these various Hutu leaders. 291 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,960 And began to support 292 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,960 the extremist views to annihilate and eliminate the Tutsis. 293 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,560 [cars honking] 294 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,720 [suspenseful tune] 295 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,200 [man, in French] The increasingly frantic hate speech on RTLM 296 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,840 arouses the indignation of the Democrats. 297 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,560 In particular, of the Minister of Information, Faustin Rucogoza, 298 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,640 who threatens to shut down RTLM. 299 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:04,120 [Rucogoza, in Rwanda-Rundi] News that fuels hatred... 300 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,400 this news is not acceptable and does not belong in this country. 301 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,200 [in French] In the office of Rucogoza, we will see 302 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Félicien Kabuga publicly for the first time, 303 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,440 since television is there and is able to film this pathetic discussion. 304 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,400 [in Rwanda-Rundi] RTLM can not please everyone. 305 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,360 Mister Minister, 306 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,040 RTLM only tells the truth 307 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,200 and only what is really happening. 308 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,400 And it is for this reason that we founded it, 309 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,720 to enlighten the population. 310 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,360 [Dupaquier, in French] This is the first and, I believe, last time 311 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,040 that he was publicly seen in a video 312 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,600 as the great organizer of the group of Hutu extremists. 313 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,720 [Kabuga speaks indistinctly in the background] 314 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080 [Dupaquier] So, no one will dare to come and close RTLM. 315 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,240 In the end, Rucogoza is the one who will lose 316 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,440 because he will be assassinated with his wife and kids. 317 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,360 [Rucogoza speaks indistinctly in the background] 318 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600 [Dupaquier] Because he opposed those people. 319 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,360 [melancholic tune] 320 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,920 [radio speaker, in Rwanda-Rundi] Let's all sing together: 321 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720 ♪ Come to rejoice with me my friends ♪ 322 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,920 ♪ That Tutsis are exterminated! ♪ 323 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,120 ♪ Come to rejoice with me my friends ♪ 324 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,920 ♪ God is right! ♪ 325 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,160 [crows cawing] 326 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,560 [Prosper] What we began to do is, as the tracking team began to build, 327 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,920 was set up several operations 328 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,040 around the world. 329 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560 We were able to successfully apprehend people in Cameroon 330 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,320 and then we also learned that there were people in Kenya. 331 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,400 And featured among them was Kabuga. 332 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,120 And we ultimately learned that they were receiving some-- 333 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,680 some protection at that time. 334 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:18,360 [racy tune] 335 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,480 [Namu] Kenya was this... ground where some of the business elite, 336 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840 the political elite, could come and... 337 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,640 slip into the shadows, and it was fairly 338 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,000 okay for a lot of genocidaires. 339 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,920 [Prosper] With a lot of effort, a lot of push, 340 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,240 we were able to make several arrests. 341 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,680 [newscaster, in French] Great success 342 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,760 for the International Criminal Court for Rwanda. 343 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,160 After the arrest in Kenya, last week, 344 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,600 of seven members of the former Rwandan regime... 345 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,640 [Namu, in English] Kabuga was arrested 346 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,840 in a police station not too far away from where we are sitting. 347 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,080 [funky tune] 348 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,920 [Namu] When he was arrested and they were looking into the issue, 349 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,760 a number of people came out of the woodwork. 350 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,400 Lawyers... government agents... 351 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,160 who claimed that Kabuga was the victim of political persecution. 352 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,240 So he was arrested, then released. 353 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,840 The explanation that the police officer who released him said, 354 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,160 was that, you know, orders from above, basically. 355 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,760 [tense tune] 356 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,560 Kabuga was connected at the highest level with the Kenyan government. 357 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,000 So he was always one step ahead of any operation. 358 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,880 [tense tune continues] 359 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,120 [Ceppi, in French] Kabuga had the opportunity 360 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,680 to stay in Kenya because he had a lot of money. 361 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,000 It was, back then, an extremely corrupted country... 362 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,080 where it was possible to buy visas and to buy silence. 363 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,880 Where you could buy anything if you have money. 364 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,640 [in English] If you look at the-- the registration documents... 365 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,600 [click] 366 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,600 [Namu] ...if you look at the visa documents that, uh, 367 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,200 Félicien Kabuga signed on behalf of his family as well. 368 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,240 Everything's very clear. It looked like just another guy who's come 369 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,080 and he has an interest in setting up in Kenya. 370 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,600 And used his name. 371 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200 And, fairly quickly, he was... 372 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,400 also able to establish an import-export company. 373 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,480 He was able to move freely, shop in, you know, 374 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,520 some of Kenya's most expensive shopping districts. 375 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,400 He had houses in, you know, areas that 376 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,280 a regular Kenyan would not be able to afford to live in. 377 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,360 So, he lived a quiet life, but it was a comfortable life. 378 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,640 [somber tune] 379 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,440 So, we got to the point where... 380 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,200 we launched a very aggressive campaign in Kenya. 381 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,600 [dramatic tune] 382 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,560 [Prosper] We set up phone numbers, hot-lines where people could call in... 383 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,880 and provide us tips. 384 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,760 And from there we would send out a-- a-- the tracking team. 385 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,040 When we launched the program, Kabuga was our featured person. 386 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,320 The idea was really quite simple. If someone was able to give us information 387 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,720 we could pay up to five million dollars. 388 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,120 Those individuals who have been indicted for serious violations 389 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,280 of international humanitarian law 390 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,000 that is, those most responsible 391 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,800 and those most wanted for the Rwandan genocide. 392 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,400 [dramatic tune] 393 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,000 [Prosper] We had a witness... 394 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080 that came forward and provided information. 395 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,880 He had seen Kabuga. 396 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,560 And had actually had conversations with Kabuga. 397 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,240 We needed to test the information. 398 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680 So we had, uh, the FBI perform 399 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,520 polygraph, lie detector tests. 400 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,360 [whirring] 401 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,200 [Prosper] The man passed the test. 402 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,920 The FBI concluded he was telling the truth. 403 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,160 And so he was willing to help set up 404 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,160 a sting operation where we were going to arrest Kabuga. 405 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,280 [suspenseful tune] 406 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,840 [Namu] William Munuhe was a journalist working for a local newspaper here, 407 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,720 who had very good and close links to government. 408 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,280 So William Munuhe 409 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,120 gets introduced to Félicien Kabuga. 410 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,640 And once he realizes who Félicien Kabuga is, 411 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,800 he reaches out to the Federal Bureau of Investigations. 412 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:27,560 And he starts to hatch a plan to get Félicien Kabuga arrested. 413 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,200 [Munuhe's brother, in Rwanda-Rundi] I'm William Munuhe's brother. 414 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,880 He is the last born of the family. 415 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,560 [baby wailing] 416 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 [Munuhe's brother] Once, he told us that 417 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,080 he had friends from America. 418 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,120 He said that through his friends, 419 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,320 he could raise our living standards as a family. 420 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Because in our lives we've been raised in poverty. 421 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Munuhe was a smart man. 422 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,720 People of the government sometimes asked him to hide Félicien Kabuga. 423 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000 And when Kabuga needed someone to get a job done, 424 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,360 they would ask Munuhe to do it. 425 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,320 [Prosper, in English] But... we do believe that there was a leak 426 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,520 in the Kenyan security system... 427 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,840 that, uh, alerted Kabuga's people 428 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040 of the identity of our informant. 429 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,120 [paper rustling] 430 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,680 [Mureithi in Rwanda-Rundi] This is the letter. Munuhe narrates how 431 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,840 he was kidnapped on a highway in Nairobi. 432 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,320 [in English] "I was blindfolded and locked in the car boot. 433 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,400 I found the three men seated together with Kabuga 434 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,840 and the interrogation started. 435 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,760 He criticized me for betraying him 436 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520 I was asked about my relationship with America. 437 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320 I was taken to another room 438 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,440 where electric shock was used." 439 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,760 [in Rwanda-Rundi] At that point, he says: 440 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,280 [in English] "They took me back. They took back my phones." 441 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,240 [in Rwanda-Rundi] That's how the letter ends. 442 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,640 I think they had an agreement. 443 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,280 Kabuga was supposed to come to Munuhe's place 444 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,280 to pay him so he would keep quiet. 445 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,920 That's when Munuhe tipped off the FBI. 446 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,040 And the FBI planned on how they would arrest Kabuga. 447 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,040 [sirens blaring] 448 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,840 [sinister tune] 449 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160 [in English] We set up a meeting that was confirmed, 450 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,720 where Kabuga was going to go to... this man's house. 451 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,880 We were all set 452 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,120 and we were waiting and waiting. 453 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,800 And Kabuga never shows up. 454 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,560 [dog barking] 455 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,800 [Prosper] And we can't find our informant. 456 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,720 He's not returning our calls. 457 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,800 Someone went into his house... 458 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,160 and found him... dead. 459 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,640 [click] 460 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,600 [Namu] The first time news of William Munuhe's death emerged, 461 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,520 fairly senior police officers at the time claimed that he had died from suicide. 462 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,680 [Mureithi, in Rwanda-Rundi] This is my brother's death certificate. 463 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,160 It's written: 464 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,560 [in English]  "Cause of death uncertain, 465 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,720 pending full toxicology due to carbon monoxide levels." 466 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,000 [in English] But the evidence in the house where his body was found, spoke 467 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,960 a completely different story. 468 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,000 [Mureithi, in Rwanda-Rundi] They struck his throat with a sharp object. 469 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Blood spurted and splashed from the ceiling to the closet. 470 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,200 We even found blood in the sink that they probably used to clean up. 471 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,200 [Namu, in English] It looked as if William Munuhe had been murdered. 472 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,240 But Kenyan authorities always denied... that... 473 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320 Félicien Kabuga was involved in his murder. 474 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,040 [Prosper] We know that Kabuga was a killer. 475 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Kabuga had no problems with killing in Rwanda. 476 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,040 So killing an informant was very easy for-- for Kabuga. 477 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,920 [sighing] You know... 478 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,280 It was one of those days where... you just feel terrible. 479 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,880 And you feel mad and angry at the same time. 480 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,200 He was about to be arrested. We had him... 481 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,800 cornered. 482 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:03,320 But there was someone in the-- the Kenyan services that got the information, 483 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,120 gave it to Kabuga, and... sold us out. 484 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,160 After William was killed, 485 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,320 the information began to dry up. 486 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,760 The tips stopped coming in. 487 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:26,240 Because people now know... 488 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,320 that uh... Kabuga... is a killer. 489 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,320 And is serious. 490 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,160 And that if you bring information, 491 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,920 they are going to come after you. 492 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,960 Then uh... he moved on somewhere. 493 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,600 [indistinct in-flight announcement] 494 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:51,440 [Prosper] And we just could not get a good grasp of-- of where he went to. 495 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520 [racy tune] 496 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,680 [Prosper] Maybe he went back to the Congo. 497 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:02,080 We had information at one point that he spent some time in the Seychelles. 498 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,560 [Bizimana, in French] It is even said that he went through a body transformation 499 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,400 in order to hide himself. 500 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040 That he could have traveled to countries in Asia, 501 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,400 in Europe, with fake passports. 502 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,320 [racy tune continues] 503 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,800 [Prosper, in English] Kabuga, with his wealth and his willingness to kill, 504 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520 has been able to remain at large. 505 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,760 [Dupaquier, in French] Kabuga was wanted. He was the most wanted man, 506 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,760 but a lot of others were wanted, namely 507 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,080 his son-in-law, Ngirabatware, who played a terrible part during the genocide. 508 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,720 They located him in Germany. 509 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,080 The process was obviously to alert the German police, 510 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560 the only ones able to operate on German soil. 511 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,240 [Rapp, in English] What happened in 2007 512 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,720 is that the effort to arrest his son-in-law 513 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,120 finally succeeds in Germany. 514 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,760 RWANDAN GENOCIDIST ARRESTED IN FRANKFURT 515 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120 A FORMER MINISTER ARRESTED 516 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,120 [Rapp] At the time he's arrested, 517 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,360 he's actually at an Internet cafe 518 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,400 and he's communicating on a rented computer. 519 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,000 Uh-- and he also has with him a thumb drive, 520 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,000 a memory stick that's in that computer, and when he's arrested, 521 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,400 he pulls out the memory stick and attempts to stomp on it and destroy it. 522 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,600 [in French] Some German policemen found the debris from this USB drive and 523 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,000 sent it for expertise. 524 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,000 When they managed to recover some of the data from this USB drive, 525 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,640 they saw that there was an invoice for the hospitalization of a Tanzanian. 526 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:26,280 This document was a piece of paper with the photo ID of a Tanzanian, 527 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,400 and the photo was clear. 528 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,600 It was indeed Félicien Kabuga, 529 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,640 who had been smuggled into Germany on a fake passport. 530 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,440 [Rapp, in English] That then leads them to understand 531 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,360 that Kabuga has been there. 532 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,680 There's no question, you know, that he was in Germany at that time. 533 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,760 And so there's a lot of efforts to try 534 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,400 to locate him in Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. 535 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,920 Which, frankly, don't yield 536 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,280 any solid, uh, information about his whereabouts. 537 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,920 [suspenseful tune] 538 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,000 [Dupaquier, in French] Félicien Kabuga did not wait to be identified. 539 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,200 He disappeared again. It was a monumental failure. 540 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,760 [Prosper, in English] We continued to try to find Kabuga. 541 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,080 But it became tougher and tougher to get real, actionable 542 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,320 information or intelligence on-- on Kabuga. 543 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,280 [church bells tolling] 544 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,280 [Rapp] He may be, you know, in some... 545 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,720 in some villa in France, being, you know, taken care of by a nurse. 546 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,720 But they're never answering the door. 547 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,640 [church bells tolling] 548 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200 [Dupaquier, in French] The genocide organization is, 549 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,400 in some ways, like the mafia. 550 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,680 And you know that when a mafia member is buried, 551 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,760 all mafia members go to the procession. 552 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,840 I learned one day 553 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,480 that a friend of Félicien Kabuga's had passed away... 554 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,480 and that he was about to be buried in the Paris region. 555 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,640 Here is Jean Bosco Barayagwiza's grave. 556 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,720 This is where I hoped Félicien Kabuga, the genocide's financier, would come... 557 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560 since he was a great friend of Jean Bosco Barayagwiza's. 558 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,240 -Both of them were at RTLM. -[indistinct background speech] 559 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,080 [click] 560 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480 [suspenseful tune] 561 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,320 [in French] I was here, not very far, with a cameraman friend, 562 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,800 to film Kabuga's arrest. 563 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,840 Two policemen hid in the gatehouse you see here, 564 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,760 at the end of the cemetery, which is used to store tools. 565 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,080 And they were waiting for my signal to get closer and arrest Kabuga. 566 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,760 There were employees of the Public Gardening Services, 567 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,760 who were pretending to plant flowers. 568 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600 There were two trucks and it was planned that, 569 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,240 if Kabuga was spotted, to prevent him from escaping 570 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,720 at my signal, one truck would block the street 571 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,240 and another would block a little further up. He had no way to escape. 572 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,200 The procession of Rwandans approach the grave here, 573 00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,240 and when the procession is leaving... 574 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,280 I'm still waiting for Kabuga's arrival, 575 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,840 because I saw that he was not in the procession. 576 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,200 I see that there is Dr. Eugene Rwamucyo, 577 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,000 who is wanted by an international arrest warrant, 578 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,800 who is there and I say to myself: "At least, let's arrest that one." 579 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,040 [in French] You are coming with us. 580 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,880 -[in French] Now? -Give me your hands, please. 581 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,040 [Dupaquier, in French] That's how I failed to arrest Félicien Kabuga 582 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,280 but managed to arrest Dr. Eugene Rwamucyo. 583 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,360 -[in French] Call my lawyer, Mr. Boulain. -[in French] Let's go, sir. 584 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,440 [indistinct dialog in French] 585 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,160 [in French] What's going on? 586 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,800 [in French] It's too tight, please. 587 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,880 -[in French] Move, sir. -[in French] Thank you. 588 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:16,080 [click] 589 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,120 [click] 590 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,800 [ominous tune] 591 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,880 [in French] Those who have been arrested and put in jail are the little people. 592 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,880 Kabuga and the authorities who planned the genocide... 593 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,120 Many have never been arrested. 594 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,680 They are hiding. 595 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,160 [in French] I'm pretty sure that Kabuga is in Kenya. 596 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,800 [in English] The last I heard, he had popped up somewhere in Belgium. 597 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,000 How he had been able to make it to Europe, I'm not sure. 598 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,520 [Ceppi, in French] Just like the victims of the Holocaust 599 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640 have never given up, 600 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,160 have never stopped hunting down the perpetrators of the Holocaust, 601 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,320 I think we must never stop hunting down people like Félicien Kabuga. 602 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,680 [Prosper, in English] I would have loved 603 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,600 to have gotten, uh... Kabuga. 604 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,280 But I have found that time catches up with-- with everyone. 605 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,080 And we will... 606 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,800 find out where Kabuga is, dead or alive, 607 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,280 at some point in time. 608 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,400 [footsteps] 609 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,120 [somber music] 610 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,880 [traffic humming] 611 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,240 [man, in French] In the beginning of 2020, we received information from the English 612 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,600 that one of his daughters was in the area. 613 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,040 She often came to the country, and notably to Asnières. 614 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,440 [Emeraux, in French] The other members of the family, who were being tapped, 615 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,160 also came to Asnières. 616 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,000 [man on phone, in English] Yep, well, I hope this isn't a recorded line. 617 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,120 All right. 618 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,000 [in French] We thought there was something special about this city. 619 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,360 [Emeraux, in French] We decided to speed things up. 620 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,160 [dramatic music] 621 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,480 A meeting was set for Saturday at 6 a.m. 622 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,320 And when we arrived outside the apartment 623 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,240 we went through the basement 624 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,600 to go up the stairs discreetly, of course. 625 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,640 Once we were in front of the apartment door, 626 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,680 everyone got into position. 627 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,440 And it was time. 628 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,480 [somber music] 629 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,040 [in English] After decades on the run, one of the world's most wanted 630 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,480 fugitives has been captured. 631 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,600 Félicien Kabuga is finally in custody this evening, 632 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,480 after French police raided a flat in Paris in the early hours of this morning. 633 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,640 [in French] The man was living under a false identity 634 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:27,560 in Asnières-sur-Seine, near Paris. 635 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,840 The result of a long investigation by French police. 636 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,560 [Emeraux, in French] He acknowledged that he was indeed Félicien Kabuga. 637 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,480 I thought it was a historic day because it was the end of his run. 638 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,240 [male narrator, in English] His arrest is a reminder 639 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,160 that those responsible for genocide 640 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,840 can be brought to account, even 26 years after their crimes. 641 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,880 [somber music] 642 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,640 [latch clicks shut] 50422

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