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- A very good sign that
you've misunderstood the cause
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of a disorder is your inability
to treat or prevent it.
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- You look at the data of
ever increasing obesity
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and diabetes and you just think,
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how is it possible the
whole world has failed
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to eat healthfully?
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Maybe we're being
told the wrong advice.
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- [Reporter] Since the 1960s
the American Heart Association
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has been saying saturated
fat is detrimental
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to cardiovascular health,
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you need to get it
out of the diet.
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- It's hard to think of
another policy that has caused
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so much harm that
has been so wrong.
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- You know the chief
killer of Americans
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is cardiovascular disease.
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- [Dr. Sara] The manipulation
of the data and the idea
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and the push for low-fat,
really got us in trouble.
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- I think the low-fat
diet is genocide.
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- Saturated fat increases
cardiovascular risk.
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- We've been told forever
that fats gonna kill you.
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- This started because
incontrovertible evidence
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that saturated fat is bad.
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- Over and over and over.
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- The more animal protein,
particularly red meat you eat,
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the more likely you'll
get sick from all kinds
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of different things.
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- You're fat because
you eat too much fat.
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- So, low-fat, low-fat,
low-fat, low-fat, low-fat.
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- [Dr. Mark] For 40-years,
the dietary guidelines
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have set nutrition standards
for every American,
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for our kids in school, for
food programs for the poor
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and the elderly, for rations
for our nation's military,
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for doctors, nutritionists
and dieticians.
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We've had it hammered into
our heads that fat is bad,
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especially saturated fat,
the kind found in meat,
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dairy and some tropical
oils like coconut and palm.
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- [Female Narrator] The base
of the pyramid, carbohydrates.
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- [Dr. Mark] The food pyramid
codified our fat phobia
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telling us to make
carbohydrates the foundation
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of our food choices.
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- I think the food pyramid
is great if you're standing
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on your head because
you need to turn
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that pyramid upside down.
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- You can't be serious,
that would put butter
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and fat at the top of the--
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- Flip the damn food pyramid!
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- Nutrition is stabilizing.
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- We got the whole story wrong,
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we were told to eat six
to 11 servings of bread,
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rice, cereal and pasta
a day by the government
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and the food pyramid,
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it should be called
the food tombstone.
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- I'm Doctor Mark Hyman, a
functional medicine physician
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with a focus on
food as medicine.
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And I understand the
healing power of food.
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But I can tell you,
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the low-fat diet did
not make us healthy.
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- I think a low-fat heart
healthy diet is unproven.
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It was essentially
a huge experiment on
millions of people,
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and it failed miserably.
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Wait a minute,
have you not seen,
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are you not practicing
medicine to see who's coming
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into your clinic
to see the problems
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that this idea has caused?
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I mean, it's just
to me, unbelievable.
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- [Dr. Mark] For years, even
I believed that eating fat
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would make me fat and
that eating saturated fat
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would cause heart
disease and kill me.
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But now, a growing
group of experts reveal
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that the science against
saturated fat was never there.
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- I was astonished to
find that there simply
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was no evidence.
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- It was just an idea, but
it was launched as a policy
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for all Americans based
really on no evidence at all.
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- What is the evidence?
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A big, big zero.
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- Our federal
dietary guidelines,
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the official government advice
for how we should all eat
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to stay healthy, tell us
to limit saturated fat
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to just a couple of bites a day
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and make carbohydrates more
than half our daily calories.
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I'm here to tell
you, that advice
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is upside down and backwards.
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The idea that eating fat
will make you fat is wrong
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and the science that
says saturated fat
causes heart disease
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is misleading and instead
has led our nation down
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a dangerous path toward
a wide-spread epidemic
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of obesity and type 2 diabetes.
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- We screwed up, it happens
all the time in science,
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medical orthodoxy latched
onto the wrong explanation,
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made a tragic mistake
and now we're living
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with the consequences.
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(mellow music)
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- [Charlie Gibson] The
nation got a report card
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on obesity today and
the country flunked.
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- [News Reporter] The
battle against obesity
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has been going on for years.
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- [Michelle Obama] One in
three children in this country
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is overweight or obese.
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- [Dr. Mehmet] An
estimated $200 billion cost
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to the healthcare industry
continues to rise.
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- [Gayle King] The
search for weight loss
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and health may be a little
more complex than you think.
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- [Peter Jennings]
Despite all attempts
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to attack the problem, the
adult obesity rate increased
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in 23 states last year.
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- [Cynthia Mcmadden] Why
is it that Americans keep
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getting fatter in spite of
government efforts ranging
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from calorie posting to
new school lunch program?
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- [Gary Taubes] A lot of
things with science is about
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is seeing whether things
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that make sense are
really right or not.
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In this case, it sounded
reasonable but happened
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to be wrong.
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- I'm not happy about
a lot of years of being
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at different doctors,
and every time
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that I'd go in there was just,
here's another injection,
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here's a different
kind of an injectable,
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this is the injectable
that is supposed
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to help you make
your own insulin.
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The list of side effects
were longer than your arm
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and it never made
you feel better.
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And certainly, didn't
help at all with weight.
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- [Dr. Mark] Judi has struggled
with type 2 diabetes most
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of her life, so did her dad.
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When she was a teenager,
he died from complications
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of the disease.
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Judi's tried for decades
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to get her blood
sugar under control.
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- When I did everything
they told me to do,
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I'd still gain weight, and
so then you just give up.
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- [News Anchor]
This health epidemic
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is weighing on Americans--
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- [Dr. Mark] Judi is not alone.
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- [News Anchor] U.S obesity
epidemic is only getting worse.
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- Americans are not winning
their battle over obesity.
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- Obesity among children doubled
over the past two decades.
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- [Dr. Mark] Today, 75% of
the country is overweight
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or obese, and one in two
of us, has pre-diabetes
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or type 2 diabetes.
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- Type 2 diabetes is crushing
us financially, crushing us.
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- It currently costs
a person with diabetes
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in America $900 a
month for insulin.
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- Direct cost to our
healthcare system
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is about a billion
dollars a day.
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- There isn't enough money
in the healthcare system
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to be able to afford this.
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- The cost in terms
of money is huge,
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the cost in terms
of human suffering
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is like 10 times more than that.
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- [Dr. Mark] In the space
of a single generation,
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we've gone from this, to this.
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- Watching the footage of the
50th anniversary of Apollo 11,
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I was struck by how not fat
everyone in the crowd was.
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We look like a completely
different race of people.
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- The heart attacks,
the strokes, the
cancer, the blindness,
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the amputations, all of that,
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I think is unnecessary suffering
that we're causing people.
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- [Dr. Mark] The question
is, where did this come from
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and why is it occurring?
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When I was in medical school,
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type 2 diabetes happened
only in older adults.
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Now we see it in kids as
young as age three years old
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and the more we try to medicate
our way out of the disease,
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the worse it seems to get.
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- You can't throw drugs
at a dietary disease
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and expect to make it better,
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but that's the medical teaching,
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"Hey, you have type 2 diabetes,
let me give you some pills."
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- The model doesn't work.
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We're not making people healthy,
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we're just treating disease.
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But if you give
people good nutrition,
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they become very healthy.
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- He introduced that keto
diet, and six weeks later,
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it was like a
miracle, no diabetes.
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- And it was like
magic, and I got off,
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completely off of insulin.
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- Two years later, I
had lost 197 pounds.
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- [Dr. Mark] Problem
is, we've been confused
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and downright brainwashed by
decades of nutritional dogma,
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the almost religious
conviction that fat is bad,
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especially saturated
animal fats.
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- You can lose weight
on these animal protein,
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atkins type diets but you're
mortgaging your health
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in the process.
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- We still operate under this
idea of dogmatic principles.
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We've always done it that way,
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that's what we've always said,
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we're gonna continue to
say it and unfortunately,
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nothing is holding back progress
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in nutrition science like dogma.
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- [Dr. Mark] Alternative
ideas have been attacked
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and physicians labeled as quacks
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for ignoring
guidelines against fats
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and telling patients
to cut carbs instead.
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In South Africa,
Doctor Tim Noakes went
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through a four year ordeal
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that threatened
his medical license
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for recommending a
low carbohydrate,
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high fat diet to a young mother.
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- The reason why the
low carbohydrate diet
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has become demonized
is because it works
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and it has a huge impact
on the financial return
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of the medical profession.
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- I'm an internal
medicine specialist,
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I can treat all of the
conditions that I used to treat
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with medications just
by changing the food,
it's remarkable.
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- It's completely free,
there's no special equipment,
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there's no special surgeries,
it's completely natural
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and it's been used for
thousands of years.
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- I can treat not only obesity,
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but I can treat type 2
diabetes, high blood pressure,
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in fact, I have to
take away medications
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from people as they get better.
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- This is as big
as the discovery of
insulin or antibiotics,
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it clearly is.
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- My interpretation is
that low-fat diets can work
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but low-carb diets work better
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and that's what
the science says.
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- [Dr. Mark] Nick Brown is
a pretty typical American
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when it comes to his diet.
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- Hey, how you doing?
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- [Dr. Mark] He eats
a variety of protein,
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vegetables and grains.
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He enjoys beer now and then,
and one of his favorite foods,
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- Thanks, sir.
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Have a good day.
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- [Dr. Mark] Is pizza.
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- Looking forward to pizza.
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- Maybe, if it ruins pizza for
me, I'm gonna be pissed off.
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- [Dr. Mark] Nick
is participating
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in a unique nutrition
experiment along with Tracy.
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- [Tracy] Yeah, I've
got a plan for the week.
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- [Dr. Mark] And Cynthia.
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- Thank you.
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- [Waiter] You're welcome.
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- [Dr. Mark] Three
metabolically healthy people
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who take no medications,
trying two different diets,
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low-carb versus low-fat.
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- Quite a few new recipes,
so I was curious about using
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the right thing.
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- [Dr. Mark] Before, during
and after the experiment,
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they each weigh in, check
their blood pressure,
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blood sugar, and cholesterol.
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- It's a little bit of alcohol--
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- [Dr. Mark] Throughout
the experiment,
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we'll track their blood sugar.
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- Are you ready?
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- [Nick] Sure.
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- [Dr. Michelle]
Okay, here it comes.
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- [Dr. Mark] Using a continuous
glucose monitor or CGM.
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- [Dr. Michelle]
Does it bother you?
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- [Nick] No.
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- [Dr. Michelle] Okay.
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- You just hit, Check Glucose
and it says, ready to scan
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and you just take it
here, and there it is,
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it's 94, right now.
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- [Dr. Mark] The first week,
we put them on a low-carb,
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ketogenic diet with
less than 20 grams
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of carbohydrates per day,
plenty of healthy fats
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and a moderate
amount of protein,
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a diet designed to
keep blood sugars low
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but an eating pattern
that is not allowed
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by the U.S. Dietary Guidelines.
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The second week,
we switched them
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to the USDA MyPlate meal plan.
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It's a 2000 calorie a
day, government endorsed,
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low-fat plan,
featuring whole grains,
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lean meats and vegetable oils.
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And more than half the day's
calories as carbohydrates.
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- [Dr. Mark] Week one, is
the low-carb, high-fat diet.
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- [Nick] And then
they'll keep this going,
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this is almost ready.
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I'm excited about it.
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I'm excited to try the recipes
and excited to see just
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what a full week
of doing this does.
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- I'm grateful to be doing it,
it's very fascinating to me.
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- [Dr. Mark] The keto
recipes are full of healthy,
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natural fats like eggs, butter,
avocado, olive oil, nuts
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and seeds and even
grass-fed beef.
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- I love new recipes, so this
is really good, interesting.
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- So these are buttered eggs
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and that's what they're
called in the recipe.
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You actually make
them with butter.
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I use the grass fed butter
and then I just decided
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to add a little bit of
avocado, and some tomatoes,
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and salt and pepper,
and that's it.
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Super simple, super easy.
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- I am making a
keto zucchini boats.
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You take out the
middle of the zucchini,
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cook it up with some onion,
spinach, I put in some olives,
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olive oil, and then just let
that saute for a little bit.
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- I think it's
working for my body.
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I'm curious to see what it
does through the whole week.
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- These are really good.
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- [Dr. Mark] By adding
healthy fats into every meal
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and cutting out processed carbs,
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the three experience a sense
of fullness that lasts.
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- To be honest, I've
really not been famished.
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- So, this is day three
of the strict keto diet.
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I am literally down
three and a half pounds
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from when this started.
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I'm surprised by
that, I feel great,
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I went mountain
biking last night,
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and had a lot of energy
and I don't feel hungry.
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- I still feel full and
that was after three
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and a half hours.
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And usually at that
time, yeah, the two,
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two and a half hours,
I'm hungry, usually.
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- One way to think of carbs
is they are like kindling
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on a fire, they burn
quickly and then go out,
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dropping your blood sugar
and creating severe cravings,
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the physical signal that
your body needs more fuel.
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To keep your metabolism burning,
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you must constantly eat
more and then you crash,
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and then eat more
and then you crash.
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See how carbs like bread,
pasta, rice, and yes,
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even whole grains,
affect your blood sugar.
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Protein has a much
lower response,
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it will raise blood sugar
a small amount, and fat,
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take a look at fat.
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Almost no rise in
blood sugar at all.
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When you eat fat, it's like
putting logs on the fire.
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What you get is just a
long steady source of fuel.
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- And that's one of the reasons
that I like low-carb diets
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so much, because they don't
require as much willpower.
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Because if your hormones,
your insulin isn't going up
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to the sky every
time that you eat
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and then crashing down
making you crave a bagel
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or a donut or
something from a snack,
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if that's not happening in
your physiology all the time,
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it's much easier to not overeat.
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- Day six lunchtime, leftover
Italian cabbage stir fry
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with a blop of sour cream.
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I'm still not quite hungry
but it's time for lunch.
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- You know, what's
really great about
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this is it's so easy
to test your glucose.
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- The sensor is here,
and then on my phone,
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I go on the app
that connects to it.
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- And you just put it
up and it grabs it.
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- And it went doo bloop,
and then you have it.
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- Pretty cool.
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- It's really cool (laughs).
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- [Dr. Mark] All week on
the low-carb, high-fat diet,
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their blood sugars are
virtual straight lines
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with no spikes or dips.
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- It's been steady,
it's been, typically,
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at the 85 to 90 range.
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And I just ate and that's 83,
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I just tried it
a few minutes ago
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and it's already
gone down six points.
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- I kind of wanna just
keep it on all the time
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'cause, it's so
interesting to see
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what you're doing all day.
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- [Dr. Mark] By the
end of the week,
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all three participants have
lost weight and feel great.
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- How'd your week go?
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- Very well, thanks.
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- Good.
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- You have lost about two
and half pounds of fat.
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- And how were
your blood sugars?
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- Very, very even.
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- And look, your lean tissue,
not only has it not gone down,
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it's actually gone
up a little bit.
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Boy, you're really even, not
a lot of variation at all.
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- I had always a full feeling,
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so I'm wondering if I ate
too much maybe, I don't know.
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- Well, you'll feel a lot more
full with fat and protein,
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and less carbohydrate, for sure.
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- [Dr. Mark] Next week, we'll
flip from low-carb to low-fat
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and follow the U.S.
Dietary Guidelines.
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- I'm really curious to
see what happens this week.
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- Yeah, me too.
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- I'm a little scared
about what's gonna happen.
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- [Dr. Mark] So how is it
possible we got the story
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so wrong about fats?
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There were religious
objections to eating meat
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as early as the 1800s that
influenced American opinions,
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but a major turning
point was in 1955,
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when a presidential health
scare shocked the nation.
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- [Narrator] News of
President Eisenhower's
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sudden illness,
described by his doctors
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as coronary thrombosis, came
as a severe shock to us all.
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- President Eisenhower in
1955 had a heart attack.
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He was out of the oval
office for 10 whole days,
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and that really
focused the attention
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of the nation on this
problem of heart disease.
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- [Narrator] Cardiovascular
ailments continue
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to take an increasingly
heavy toll of American lives,
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a million this year.
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- The nation was really in shock
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and there was a desperate
need for explanations.
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- And people were like,
whoa, what's causing all
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the heart disease?
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- [Narrator] Here
are vital statistics,
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they show that the
problem here in America
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is the worst in the world.
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- [Nina] There were a
number of ideas about it,
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one was that it was
vitamin deficiency,
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another was that it was the
rising tide of auto exhaust,
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more cars on the road.
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- Of 10 men, we can
expect five to get it,
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but we can't say
who or when or why.
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- Now, you can look
back now and say,
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well, that's pretty
easy to understand,
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everybody was smoking.
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- Raleigh?
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- Oh, no thanks!
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I have a pack.
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- More doctors smoke Camels
than any other cigarette.
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- [Dr. Mark] The 1950s and
60s, cigarettes were in.
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* Sparks cigarettes
are cooler than cool *
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* Smoke Spark cigarette
as the mouth happy *
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- Here have a Viceroy.
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- [Dr. Mark] Eisenhower,
himself, smoked
four packs a day.
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- What do you think?
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- This is what I was
really looking for.
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- [Dr. Mark] If you look at the
trends for cigarette smoking
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against the increases in heart
disease, they track together.
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But at the same
time, the consumption
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of saturated fat was
falling, dramatically.
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- Everybody was smoking,
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now we know smoking
causes heart disease,
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or contributes to heart disease,
but at the time, of course,
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the tobacco companies were
like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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tobacco smoking, it doesn't
cause heart disease.
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So all the scientists
were like, hey,
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I wonder why we're getting
so much heart disease?
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- There was one theory
that was proposed
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by Ancel Benjamin Keys,
who was a pathologist
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at the University of
Minnesota and he said
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that it was saturated fat
and dietary cholesterol
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that caused heart disease.
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- It's like, okay, but
how do people eat butter
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for the last two millennia?
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And ever since 1970, it
causes heart disease.
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It's like it didn't cause
heart disease before.
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- [Dr. Mark] At the same
time, consumption of sugar,
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refined oils and refined grains
were on the rise in America.
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But Ancel Keys focused on fat
as the cause of heart disease.
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- And he thought that total
cholesterol in your arteries
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would build up and
clog your arteries
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and give you a heart attack,
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like hot oil down
a cold stove pipe.
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So that was his idea, it
was just a simple idea.
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- To blame a ancient
food for a modern disease
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was completely illogical,
it didn't make any sense,
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but you repeat things enough,
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and you get it out there
enough, people believe you.
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- As American author
H.L Mencken once said,
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"For every complex problem,
there is a solution
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"that is simple and
clear and wrong."
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- It's the biggest
scam ever perpetrated
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on the American people, this
whole notion of cholesterol.
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- If you have high cholesterol,
you may be at increased risk
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of heart attack and stroke.
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Don't kid yourself, talk to
your doctor about your risk,
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00:22:06,813 --> 00:22:08,415
and about Lipitor.
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- It's eye-wateringly lucrative
to keep this idea going
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that we need to
lower cholesterol.
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- Cholesterol has definitely
become the boogeyman
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of cardiology and here's what's
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so interesting about
cholesterol, is we need it.
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Our bodies cannot exist
without cholesterol.
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Yet once again, in
simplistic thinking,
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we try and lump cholesterol
in good cholesterol
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and bad cholesterol and we
wanna lower the bad cholesterol,
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the LDL, and raise the
good cholesterol, the HDL.
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That is incredibly simplistic.
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- It turns out that raising
your LDL cholesterol
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in diet does not translate
into heart attacks and death.
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It just doesn't.
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- When you take cholesterol
out of the equation,
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you go, let's just see if people
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who eat more saturated
fat actually die more.
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Do they actually get
more heart disease?
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That's what we care about.
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Forget that it
raises cholesterol,
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we know it raises cholesterol,
so let's take that out
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of the equation and see what
the end result is which is
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what we care about and
every time they do that,
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the relationship dissolves.
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There is no relationship
between the amount
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of fat you eat in your diet
and getting heart disease.
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- [Dr. Mark] We now know that
chronic inflammation caused
487
00:23:20,252 --> 00:23:22,889
by a diet high in
sugar, refined grains
488
00:23:22,889 --> 00:23:25,592
and refined vegetable
oils is far more dangerous
489
00:23:25,592 --> 00:23:27,094
to our health.
490
00:23:27,094 --> 00:23:28,729
- [Dr. Jason] Atherosclerosis
is an inflammatory disease,
491
00:23:28,729 --> 00:23:31,431
it's not a buildup
of fat in the artery,
492
00:23:31,431 --> 00:23:33,666
it's actually an inflammation
that's causing the problems.
493
00:23:33,666 --> 00:23:36,403
- And the cholesterol then
will go to that damage to try
494
00:23:36,403 --> 00:23:38,905
to repair it, but it
didn't cause the damage.
495
00:23:38,905 --> 00:23:41,107
The damage has to come first.
496
00:23:41,107 --> 00:23:43,944
It's like saying that
firefighters caused the fire
497
00:23:43,944 --> 00:23:46,614
when they just turned
up to put the fire out.
498
00:23:46,614 --> 00:23:49,348
It was there by association,
but it was there to repair,
499
00:23:49,348 --> 00:23:51,151
not to cause harm.
500
00:23:51,151 --> 00:23:55,254
- Inflammation is probably
the number one promoter
501
00:23:55,254 --> 00:23:57,190
of every disease we
don't wanna have.
502
00:23:57,190 --> 00:24:00,493
And the number one
inflammatory substance
503
00:24:00,493 --> 00:24:03,530
in the American diet
is sugar, that's it.
504
00:24:04,697 --> 00:24:06,199
You put those two
things together,
505
00:24:06,199 --> 00:24:09,001
inflammation makes
everything worse
506
00:24:09,001 --> 00:24:11,437
and sugar is the number
one inflammatory substance
507
00:24:11,437 --> 00:24:13,941
that we consume,
end of argument.
508
00:24:18,244 --> 00:24:21,147
- [Narrator] In 1951,
Ancel and Margaret took
509
00:24:21,147 --> 00:24:25,018
the two oldest children to
Oxford for a year's sabbatical.
510
00:24:25,018 --> 00:24:28,355
The couple continued their
travels, measuring cholesterols
511
00:24:28,355 --> 00:24:31,290
and conducting diet
surveys in several European
512
00:24:31,290 --> 00:24:32,960
and African countries.
513
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,494
- There was a study
that he presented
514
00:24:35,494 --> 00:24:38,464
at the Mount Sinai
Hospital in 1953
515
00:24:38,464 --> 00:24:41,068
and it was the six
countries graph.
516
00:24:41,068 --> 00:24:44,037
- [Dr. Andrew] He specifically
looked at six countries
517
00:24:44,037 --> 00:24:47,540
around the world and on the
x-axis he plotted fat intake,
518
00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:50,277
and on the y-axis coronary
heart disease rates,
519
00:24:50,277 --> 00:24:52,680
and he found a straight
line relationship.
520
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,380
- And he offered that as proof
521
00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:56,684
that there was a
linear relationship
522
00:24:56,684 --> 00:24:59,351
between how much saturated
fat people consumed
523
00:24:59,351 --> 00:25:00,988
and how much heart
disease they had.
524
00:25:00,988 --> 00:25:04,558
- But he chose six countries
for that perfect correlation
525
00:25:04,558 --> 00:25:08,896
and at the time, there was data
available for 22 countries.
526
00:25:08,896 --> 00:25:10,329
- [Dr. Zoe] And when you put
in all of those countries,
527
00:25:10,329 --> 00:25:11,964
it just looked like
a scatter plot.
528
00:25:11,964 --> 00:25:14,466
- The trendline is
nowhere near as clear-cut.
529
00:25:14,466 --> 00:25:16,036
- There was no
clear relationship.
530
00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:18,606
- No correlation between
fat and heart disease.
531
00:25:18,606 --> 00:25:21,942
He was criticized at the time
by a statisticians who said,
532
00:25:21,942 --> 00:25:23,844
"You're obviously cherry
picking your data."
533
00:25:23,844 --> 00:25:27,213
- He knows it's a hypothesis,
he knows he doesn't have
534
00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:29,982
the evidence and he
immediately starts recommending
535
00:25:29,982 --> 00:25:32,953
the country go on a low-fat
diet, which is fascinating
536
00:25:32,953 --> 00:25:36,723
because there is no concern
that you're gonna do harm,
537
00:25:36,723 --> 00:25:41,560
there's no the Hippocratic
Oath, "First, do no harm."
538
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,696
- [Dr. Mark] To spite his
critics, Keys was determined
539
00:25:43,696 --> 00:25:45,498
to prove himself right.
540
00:25:45,498 --> 00:25:48,068
He followed up with his
famous Seven Countries Study
541
00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:50,569
where he traveled to the
countries cherry-picked
542
00:25:50,569 --> 00:25:52,972
from his graph and
studied eating habits
543
00:25:52,972 --> 00:25:55,508
and heart disease
among the people there.
544
00:25:55,508 --> 00:25:59,378
- For his Seven Country Study,
he repeated the same mistake,
545
00:25:59,378 --> 00:26:00,914
he cherry-picked his countries.
546
00:26:00,914 --> 00:26:02,715
- I think he did
cherry-pick countries
547
00:26:02,715 --> 00:26:04,084
for the Seven Countries Study.
548
00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:06,953
He knew from the six
countries graph the countries
549
00:26:06,953 --> 00:26:08,955
that would be on that
straight line, so he knew,
550
00:26:08,955 --> 00:26:11,290
for example, that Italy
would be a sure thing
551
00:26:11,290 --> 00:26:12,925
and America would
be a sure thing.
552
00:26:12,925 --> 00:26:15,695
They would quite nicely
anchor some of the ends
553
00:26:15,695 --> 00:26:17,129
of the graph.
554
00:26:17,129 --> 00:26:19,666
- But he did not go to countries
like Switzerland, France,
555
00:26:19,666 --> 00:26:22,703
Germany, who ate a
lot of saturated fats,
556
00:26:22,703 --> 00:26:25,071
and also had very low
rates of heart disease.
557
00:26:27,074 --> 00:26:31,610
- The French were eating
all kinds of saturated fat,
558
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:35,014
butter, cream, and they
weren't gaining weight,
559
00:26:35,014 --> 00:26:37,017
which was his
paradox at the time,
560
00:26:37,017 --> 00:26:38,284
and they weren't
getting heart disease,
561
00:26:38,284 --> 00:26:40,353
they had like half the
rate of heart disease
562
00:26:40,353 --> 00:26:42,122
compared to Americans.
563
00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:44,624
Everybody said, "Well, what
a paradox, what a paradox."
564
00:26:44,624 --> 00:26:48,060
There was no paradox,
the dietary fat simply
565
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:50,629
wasn't causing obesity, and
it didn't cause heart disease.
566
00:26:50,629 --> 00:26:53,133
- So he's a very
respected physiologist
567
00:26:53,133 --> 00:26:54,367
and it's worth
mentioning, by the way,
568
00:26:54,367 --> 00:26:57,870
that Eisenhower followed
the Ancel Keys advice
569
00:26:57,870 --> 00:27:01,441
and cut out all saturated
fat and all cholesterol up
570
00:27:01,441 --> 00:27:03,976
until the day he died in
1969 of heart disease,
571
00:27:03,976 --> 00:27:05,478
just worth mentioning.
572
00:27:05,478 --> 00:27:08,014
- [Dr. Mark] Ancel Keys diet
heart hypothesis remains
573
00:27:08,014 --> 00:27:10,884
the single most influential
theory in history
574
00:27:10,884 --> 00:27:12,720
of nutrition science.
575
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,088
And here's an interesting
point, over the past 50 years,
576
00:27:16,088 --> 00:27:19,059
taxpayers have funded
several billion of dollars
577
00:27:19,059 --> 00:27:21,994
of research trying to
prove saturated fat
578
00:27:21,994 --> 00:27:24,798
causes heart disease,
but guess what?
579
00:27:24,798 --> 00:27:26,867
It's never been proven.
580
00:27:26,867 --> 00:27:29,202
To this day, the
diet heart hypothesis
581
00:27:29,202 --> 00:27:31,972
remains an hypothesis.
582
00:27:31,972 --> 00:27:34,774
- [Dr. Zoe] There is no
evidence against saturated fat,
583
00:27:34,774 --> 00:27:36,175
there just isn't.
584
00:27:39,713 --> 00:27:42,415
- [Dr. Mark] Dr. Zoe Harcombe,
is an obesity researcher
585
00:27:42,415 --> 00:27:45,452
who wrote her thesis on
the lack of evidence behind
586
00:27:45,452 --> 00:27:47,119
the dietary guidelines.
587
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,455
- My thesis was born out
of trying to understand
588
00:27:49,455 --> 00:27:51,959
why we have an obesity epidemic.
589
00:27:51,959 --> 00:27:53,926
- [Dr. Mark] Zoe
collected all the raw data
590
00:27:53,926 --> 00:27:57,830
from randomized controlled
clinical trials conducted prior
591
00:27:57,830 --> 00:28:00,267
to the release of the
dietary guidelines.
592
00:28:00,267 --> 00:28:02,601
She then she re-analyzed
all the results
593
00:28:02,601 --> 00:28:05,071
in a process called
a meta-analysis.
594
00:28:05,071 --> 00:28:09,009
- It was looking at the absolute
totality of the evidence,
595
00:28:09,009 --> 00:28:12,578
no cherry-picking whatsoever,
no study left out.
596
00:28:12,578 --> 00:28:14,481
So there's the Rose
Corn Oil Trial,
597
00:28:14,481 --> 00:28:16,415
there's the Research
Committee Low-Fat Diet,
598
00:28:16,415 --> 00:28:18,151
there's the MRC Soybean Study,
599
00:28:18,151 --> 00:28:20,619
there's the LA
Veterans Dayton Study,
600
00:28:20,619 --> 00:28:23,089
there's Leren Oslo Study.
601
00:28:23,089 --> 00:28:24,857
- [Dr. Mark] When she
examined the results to see
602
00:28:24,857 --> 00:28:26,960
which group suffered
more deaths,
603
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,694
there was no difference at all.
604
00:28:28,694 --> 00:28:32,331
There was no health benefit
for the groups assigned
605
00:28:32,331 --> 00:28:34,067
to eat a low-fat diet.
606
00:28:34,067 --> 00:28:36,368
- I was astonished to
find that there simply
607
00:28:36,368 --> 00:28:38,070
was no evidence.
608
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:42,009
- Real food fats are
not dangerous, they
are not the enemy.
609
00:28:42,009 --> 00:28:45,578
It's too simplistic
and reductionist to
say saturated fat
610
00:28:45,578 --> 00:28:47,280
is dangerous and
needs to be avoided
611
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,715
and the evidence does
not support that.
612
00:28:49,715 --> 00:28:52,351
- So how then, without the
hard science to back it up,
613
00:28:52,351 --> 00:28:55,488
did the diet-heart hypothesis
become the foundation
614
00:28:55,488 --> 00:28:58,024
of our nation's
dietary guidelines?
615
00:28:58,024 --> 00:29:00,092
Well, it had one big
thing going for it,
616
00:29:00,092 --> 00:29:02,294
Ancel Benjamin Keys.
617
00:29:02,294 --> 00:29:05,764
- He had just a very
outsized personality,
618
00:29:05,764 --> 00:29:08,467
colleagues of his told me
he could just argue anyone
619
00:29:08,467 --> 00:29:09,970
to the death.
620
00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:13,339
And he was able to get into
the American Heart Association
621
00:29:13,339 --> 00:29:14,974
on the Nutrition Committee.
622
00:29:14,974 --> 00:29:18,078
And in 1961, the Heart
Association comes out
623
00:29:18,078 --> 00:29:20,813
with the first advice anywhere
in the world telling people
624
00:29:20,813 --> 00:29:23,183
to cut back on saturated
fat and cholesterol
625
00:29:23,183 --> 00:29:25,018
in order to prevent
a heart attack.
626
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:28,721
- [Dr. Mark] Up until the 1960s,
627
00:29:28,721 --> 00:29:30,522
Americans consumed almost half
628
00:29:30,522 --> 00:29:32,724
of their daily calories as fat.
629
00:29:32,724 --> 00:29:35,828
We ate butter without guilt,
bacon and eggs for breakfast
630
00:29:35,828 --> 00:29:37,396
and roasts for dinner.
631
00:29:37,396 --> 00:29:40,867
Exercise gyms were barely
a thought and still,
632
00:29:40,867 --> 00:29:42,635
we were relatively slim.
633
00:29:42,635 --> 00:29:44,838
- Conventional wisdom
until the 1960s
634
00:29:44,838 --> 00:29:46,606
was carbohydrates
were fattening,
635
00:29:46,606 --> 00:29:48,040
that's the weird thing about it.
636
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,244
So you talk about bread,
pasta, potatoes, rice, sweets,
637
00:29:52,244 --> 00:29:53,680
going directly to your hips.
638
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,151
It was what my mothers
generation believed growing up.
639
00:29:58,151 --> 00:30:00,988
- [Narrator] The diet used
in this study is satisfying
640
00:30:00,988 --> 00:30:04,424
to the appetite because of the
use of more protein and fat.
641
00:30:04,424 --> 00:30:06,926
- And then in the 1960s, we
come along with this idea
642
00:30:06,926 --> 00:30:09,761
that dietary fat
causes heart disease.
643
00:30:09,761 --> 00:30:14,067
In 20 years, from the
1960s to the mid-1980s,
644
00:30:14,067 --> 00:30:17,069
the carbohydrate
went from fattening
645
00:30:17,069 --> 00:30:19,372
to a heart-healthy diet food.
646
00:30:19,372 --> 00:30:21,974
- [Dr. Mark] The low-fat
diet fad had taken hold
647
00:30:21,974 --> 00:30:24,043
and Keys rose to prominence
648
00:30:24,043 --> 00:30:25,712
within the American
Heart Association
649
00:30:25,712 --> 00:30:28,447
and at the National
Institutes of Health.
650
00:30:28,447 --> 00:30:31,350
- If you only lived in America,
you'd think this controversy
651
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:34,954
was pretty settled, that
obviously saturated fat
652
00:30:34,954 --> 00:30:37,389
causes heart disease,
'cause it raises cholesterol
653
00:30:37,389 --> 00:30:39,326
and we all know cholesterol
clogs the arteries.
654
00:30:39,326 --> 00:30:44,297
But there was a alternative
hypothesis going on across
655
00:30:45,065 --> 00:30:47,000
the pond in England.
656
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,169
- There was always
this competing theory
that it was sugar
657
00:30:50,169 --> 00:30:52,405
and not fat that might
cause heart disease,
658
00:30:52,405 --> 00:30:55,707
and the leading proponent
of that was John Yudkin
659
00:30:55,707 --> 00:30:57,743
and he published about that.
660
00:30:57,743 --> 00:31:01,447
And I think this is an
extraordinary example
661
00:31:01,447 --> 00:31:05,784
of how nutrition science
did or did not really work
662
00:31:05,784 --> 00:31:07,988
in America because
rather than say,
663
00:31:07,988 --> 00:31:09,521
oh, this is an interesting
competing theory,
664
00:31:09,521 --> 00:31:10,790
let's explore that.
665
00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:13,126
Maybe they're right,
maybe we're wrong.
666
00:31:13,126 --> 00:31:16,930
Their reaction instead
was to just bully him,
667
00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:18,530
really bully him
out of the field.
668
00:31:18,530 --> 00:31:21,733
- And Ancel Keys literally
destroyed his reputation.
669
00:31:21,733 --> 00:31:23,536
He went after him,
he did everything
670
00:31:23,536 --> 00:31:26,572
but call his mother names.
671
00:31:26,572 --> 00:31:29,608
- And I think Ancel Keys knew
that this hypothesis competed
672
00:31:29,608 --> 00:31:33,512
with his own, and he did
not want that to succeed.
673
00:31:33,512 --> 00:31:36,249
He wanted his hypothesis
to be successful.
674
00:31:36,249 --> 00:31:39,618
- Not surprisingly, the
sugar industry also preferred
675
00:31:39,618 --> 00:31:42,688
to point the finger
at saturated fat.
676
00:31:42,688 --> 00:31:45,692
Recently discovered documents
reveal that in 1965,
677
00:31:45,692 --> 00:31:48,761
the sugar industry paid
prominent Harvard researchers
678
00:31:48,761 --> 00:31:50,497
to do just that.
679
00:31:50,497 --> 00:31:54,267
And they were very
specifically paid $50,000,
680
00:31:54,267 --> 00:31:58,004
in today's dollars, to
produce two articles
681
00:31:58,004 --> 00:32:02,309
that exonerated sugar and
fingered saturated fat
682
00:32:02,309 --> 00:32:05,677
as the cause of
cardiovascular disease.
683
00:32:05,677 --> 00:32:08,315
We know that because we
have the paper trail.
684
00:32:08,315 --> 00:32:12,118
We have their names
on the documents.
685
00:32:12,118 --> 00:32:14,721
- This is unconscionable.
686
00:32:14,721 --> 00:32:16,322
- The sugar industry's job was
687
00:32:16,322 --> 00:32:20,527
to get the nutrition
community to say publicly
688
00:32:20,527 --> 00:32:23,163
what they believed to be true,
which was dietary fat was
689
00:32:23,163 --> 00:32:26,598
the problem, not sugar and they
paid researchers to do that
690
00:32:26,598 --> 00:32:28,501
and they were very
successful with getting
691
00:32:28,501 --> 00:32:30,136
that message across.
692
00:32:30,136 --> 00:32:33,173
- [Dr. Mark] In 1977, a Senate
Select Committee headed up
693
00:32:33,173 --> 00:32:37,743
by Senator George Mcgovern,
helped seal fat's fate.
694
00:32:37,743 --> 00:32:40,879
Over the objection of scientists
who pleaded against it,
695
00:32:40,879 --> 00:32:43,215
and with no hard
evidence to back it up,
696
00:32:43,215 --> 00:32:47,087
the committee recommended the
low-fat diet to the nation.
697
00:32:47,087 --> 00:32:48,620
- [Dr. Robert] I have
pleaded in my report
698
00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:51,624
and I will plead again
orally here for more research
699
00:32:51,624 --> 00:32:53,425
on the problem before
we make announcements
700
00:32:53,425 --> 00:32:55,095
to the American public.
701
00:32:55,095 --> 00:32:57,730
- [Senator George] I would
only argue that senators don't
702
00:32:57,730 --> 00:33:00,466
have the luxury that a
research scientist does,
703
00:33:00,466 --> 00:33:04,936
of waiting until every last
shred of evidence is in.
704
00:33:04,936 --> 00:33:07,839
- Mcgovern just wanted to make
the statement and he said,
705
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,342
"We haven't got time to
wait for the evidence."
706
00:33:10,342 --> 00:33:12,311
- They recognized the
science is unsettled
707
00:33:12,311 --> 00:33:13,812
and then the counterargument is,
708
00:33:13,812 --> 00:33:16,049
but we cannot afford to wait.
709
00:33:16,049 --> 00:33:18,917
- And so they went
without any evidence,
710
00:33:18,917 --> 00:33:21,553
and despite the fact that
many people had warned
711
00:33:21,553 --> 00:33:24,523
that this is gonna cause an
obesity, diabetes epidemic.
712
00:33:24,523 --> 00:33:26,992
They were warned
but they ignored it.
713
00:33:26,992 --> 00:33:29,729
- [Dr. Mark] In 1980, the
U.S. government triggered
714
00:33:29,729 --> 00:33:32,331
a radical shift in
the diet of Americans
715
00:33:32,331 --> 00:33:37,337
when the campaign against fat
became official food policy.
716
00:33:38,771 --> 00:33:39,972
- [Dr. Nina] The first dietary
guidelines recommended seven
717
00:33:39,972 --> 00:33:44,376
to 11 servings of bread
basically every day.
718
00:33:44,376 --> 00:33:46,846
50 to 55% of your calories
are supposed to come
719
00:33:46,846 --> 00:33:49,882
from carbohydrates,
mostly grains.
720
00:33:49,882 --> 00:33:51,751
- [Dr. Mark] For the first
time anywhere in the world,
721
00:33:51,751 --> 00:33:56,155
our government endorsed
a massive increase
in carbohydrates
722
00:33:56,155 --> 00:33:58,290
and slashed saturated
fat consumption
723
00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:01,194
to less than 10%
of daily calories.
724
00:34:01,194 --> 00:34:05,397
- The American guideline
started with a very high-carb,
725
00:34:05,397 --> 00:34:09,968
low-fat approach which
was disastrous for putting
726
00:34:09,968 --> 00:34:14,274
that out into an
entire population
without evidence saying
727
00:34:14,274 --> 00:34:15,742
that it was healthy.
728
00:34:15,742 --> 00:34:18,910
- Obesity in America had
been slowly creeping up
729
00:34:21,414 --> 00:34:26,419
from the mid 1900s on, but
1980 you see it go sharply,
730
00:34:27,153 --> 00:34:28,388
turn sharply upwards.
731
00:34:28,388 --> 00:34:30,622
- And then it just takes
off like an airplane.
732
00:34:30,622 --> 00:34:33,926
So you just want to ask, well,
what happened around then?
733
00:34:33,926 --> 00:34:37,930
- What happened in 1980 is
that the U.S. government
734
00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:40,867
told all Americans,
cut back on fat
735
00:34:40,867 --> 00:34:43,102
and increase your carbohydrates.
736
00:34:43,102 --> 00:34:46,738
- It could be complete
coincidence, that
that just happened
737
00:34:46,738 --> 00:34:50,910
to coincide but it sure as
anything needs looking at
738
00:34:50,910 --> 00:34:53,713
to see if it is
just coincidence.
739
00:34:53,713 --> 00:34:58,718
- When we took the fat out
of the food, what did we do?
740
00:35:00,118 --> 00:35:04,122
We put something in which
was way worse, sugar.
741
00:35:04,890 --> 00:35:06,359
* One, two and twist
742
00:35:06,359 --> 00:35:08,461
- [Narrator] Reduced Fat Oreo,
less fat, loads of taste.
743
00:35:08,461 --> 00:35:09,928
New, reduced fat browning muffin
744
00:35:09,928 --> 00:35:12,664
and cake mixes from Pillsbury,
try the new frosting, too.
745
00:35:12,664 --> 00:35:15,502
Hershey's Syrup is
virtually fat free.
746
00:35:15,502 --> 00:35:17,002
- Terrific!
747
00:35:17,002 --> 00:35:20,240
- I mean, let's face it, fat
tastes good, we know that.
748
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,510
And if you're gonna remove
the fat from a food,
749
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:26,278
you're gonna have to replace
it with something else
750
00:35:26,278 --> 00:35:27,647
that gives people pleasure.
751
00:35:27,647 --> 00:35:29,415
- [Narrator] As new
simple pleasures is made
752
00:35:29,415 --> 00:35:32,752
with all natural
Simplesse, instead of fat.
753
00:35:32,752 --> 00:35:34,287
- And what did they put in?
754
00:35:34,287 --> 00:35:38,424
Refined carbohydrates,
increased sugar, and boom,
755
00:35:38,424 --> 00:35:41,827
we've got an explosion
of processed foods.
756
00:35:41,827 --> 00:35:44,030
- [Narrator] So irresistible,
people are sinking
757
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:46,598
to a new low to get
their hands on one.
758
00:35:46,598 --> 00:35:49,368
Continental yogurt is non-fat,
no low-fat, but non-fat.
759
00:35:50,669 --> 00:35:51,537
- No fat?!
760
00:35:51,537 --> 00:35:52,805
- How'd they do that?
761
00:35:52,805 --> 00:35:55,040
- Ultimately, sugar
was a bigger problem
762
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,343
than saturated fat ever was.
763
00:35:57,343 --> 00:36:00,280
- The industry learned that
if they took fat out the diet,
764
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,414
they had to replace it
with sugar and then learned
765
00:36:02,414 --> 00:36:03,816
that sugar was addictive.
766
00:36:03,816 --> 00:36:05,318
- Whoa, these are really good.
767
00:36:05,318 --> 00:36:06,151
- These are great.
768
00:36:06,151 --> 00:36:06,986
- Bring 'em on.
769
00:36:06,986 --> 00:36:08,220
- Oh, yeah.
770
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:09,988
- And that's the drive
of the obesity epidemic.
771
00:36:09,988 --> 00:36:12,091
- [Dr. Nina] Low-fat
yogurt higher in sugar.
772
00:36:12,091 --> 00:36:13,260
- Whoa!
773
00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:14,060
- [Dr. Nina] Low-fat
peanut butter.
774
00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:15,261
- This is special.
775
00:36:15,261 --> 00:36:16,162
- [Dr. Nina] low-fat
salad dressing.
776
00:36:16,162 --> 00:36:17,330
- This is great!
777
00:36:17,330 --> 00:36:18,631
- [Dr. Nina] All higher
in sugar or carbs.
778
00:36:18,631 --> 00:36:20,165
- Are you sure this fat-free?
779
00:36:20,165 --> 00:36:22,801
- All low-fat foods turned
out to be higher in carbs.
780
00:36:22,801 --> 00:36:25,372
- I don't think this
was anyone's intention,
781
00:36:25,372 --> 00:36:28,575
but it's what naturally
happens when you remove fat,
782
00:36:28,575 --> 00:36:31,010
which is natural for
humans to be eating,
783
00:36:31,010 --> 00:36:35,381
from their dietary choices
and you put them on things
784
00:36:35,381 --> 00:36:37,048
instead of tasting
like cardboard,
785
00:36:37,048 --> 00:36:39,452
they can at least taste
like sweet cardboard.
786
00:36:40,553 --> 00:36:42,789
- SnackWell's, Chocolate
Sandwich Cookies.
787
00:36:42,789 --> 00:36:44,223
- These taste unbelievable,
788
00:36:44,223 --> 00:36:45,492
what if I can't
bake enough of them?
789
00:36:45,492 --> 00:36:47,294
- Those women will
be after me again.
790
00:36:48,495 --> 00:36:51,263
- Hello, cookie-man,
what's in the box?
791
00:36:51,263 --> 00:36:54,100
- We have the SnackWell
phenomenon was like the epitome
792
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,635
of what happened with the
low-fat food industry,
793
00:36:56,635 --> 00:36:59,839
where people thought they
could just eat massive amounts
794
00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:01,307
of these cookies.
795
00:37:01,307 --> 00:37:02,841
- Don't you think you get
a little carried away?
796
00:37:02,841 --> 00:37:06,011
- [Dr. Nina] They were very
high in sugar and white flour.
797
00:37:06,011 --> 00:37:08,680
- Cookie-man, you'd better
make some more (laughs).
798
00:37:10,783 --> 00:37:12,852
- [Dr. Mark] The American
Heart Association cashed
799
00:37:12,852 --> 00:37:14,586
in on the low-fat craze.
800
00:37:14,586 --> 00:37:17,589
Food companies paid hundreds
of thousands of dollars
801
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:21,127
to feature this heart-healthy
check-off symbol on a product.
802
00:37:21,127 --> 00:37:23,796
- So this resulted in crazy
things like heart check-off
803
00:37:23,796 --> 00:37:27,033
on Cocoa Krispies, or
Honey Nut Cheerios,
804
00:37:27,033 --> 00:37:30,702
or on all these foods that
were super high in sugar,
805
00:37:30,702 --> 00:37:31,671
but as long as they
were low in fat
806
00:37:31,671 --> 00:37:33,705
then it was considered healthy.
807
00:37:33,705 --> 00:37:34,973
- Kellogg's Fruit Loops Cereal,
808
00:37:34,973 --> 00:37:36,676
part of this
nutritious breakfast.
809
00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:41,113
Now that's the seal of approval.
810
00:37:41,113 --> 00:37:43,883
- [Dr. Mark] Heart-healthy,
low-fat fruit loops, anyone?
811
00:37:45,352 --> 00:37:47,185
- [Dr. Nina] There's a kind
of conventional explanation
812
00:37:47,185 --> 00:37:49,522
that it's really the
fault of Americans
813
00:37:49,522 --> 00:37:50,756
for not following
the guidelines,
814
00:37:50,756 --> 00:37:52,290
there's nothing wrong
with our guidelines,
815
00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:54,394
it's just that Americans
fail to follow them.
816
00:37:54,394 --> 00:37:55,794
- [Dr. Mark] But
government consumption data
817
00:37:55,794 --> 00:37:58,330
confirms Americans
did as they were told
818
00:37:58,330 --> 00:38:01,568
and dutifully cut back on
natural fats found in red meat,
819
00:38:01,568 --> 00:38:04,236
whole milk, eggs,
animal fats and butter,
820
00:38:04,236 --> 00:38:06,506
but we still gained weight.
821
00:38:06,506 --> 00:38:08,341
- One of the analogies
that I like to use,
822
00:38:08,341 --> 00:38:10,910
just imagine you
had a baseball team
823
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:15,781
that lost every single game
for the last 50, 60 years.
824
00:38:17,617 --> 00:38:18,850
And you're like,
well, those players,
825
00:38:18,850 --> 00:38:20,118
they just don't
know how to play.
826
00:38:20,118 --> 00:38:21,354
None of my players
know how to play.
827
00:38:21,354 --> 00:38:22,854
Well, at some point
you'd have to say,
828
00:38:22,854 --> 00:38:25,357
maybe we should take a look
at our coaching strategy.
829
00:38:27,059 --> 00:38:30,597
It can't be the fault of all
of those players for decades
830
00:38:30,597 --> 00:38:32,064
but that's basically
our explanation
831
00:38:32,064 --> 00:38:35,502
for why Americans are
getting fatter and sicker,
832
00:38:35,502 --> 00:38:36,435
it's their fault.
833
00:38:36,435 --> 00:38:37,803
They just can't do it right.
834
00:38:37,803 --> 00:38:39,338
- I think the dietary
guidelines have been
835
00:38:39,338 --> 00:38:42,107
a tremendous failed experiment.
836
00:38:42,107 --> 00:38:45,310
It's a good question of whether
they just need to be changed
837
00:38:45,310 --> 00:38:48,680
or whether they just need to
be scrapped and start over.
838
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,049
- I genuinely believe that
people now are hanging
839
00:38:51,049 --> 00:38:54,120
onto the saturated fat myth
because they don't want to admit
840
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,522
that they were wrong.
841
00:38:55,522 --> 00:38:57,256
- I don't think the
governments will ever admit
842
00:38:57,256 --> 00:38:59,325
they were wrong
about saturated fat.
843
00:38:59,325 --> 00:39:01,327
- We are paying
a hell of a price
844
00:39:01,327 --> 00:39:03,995
for a few public
health people wanting
845
00:39:03,995 --> 00:39:07,667
to protect their own reputation,
not wanting to look silly.
846
00:39:07,667 --> 00:39:10,970
- I used to fantasize about
the American Heart Association,
847
00:39:10,970 --> 00:39:14,774
press release that would
say, okay, yes, we know
848
00:39:14,774 --> 00:39:19,211
for the past almost 60
years we've been giving you
849
00:39:19,211 --> 00:39:23,515
the wrong advice and we
apologize if we killed any
850
00:39:23,515 --> 00:39:26,419
of your loved ones prematurely
851
00:39:26,419 --> 00:39:28,521
and we apologize if we
gave you heart disease
852
00:39:28,521 --> 00:39:30,823
with the advice we did give you.
853
00:39:30,823 --> 00:39:33,359
We were just telling you
what we thought was true then
854
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:37,062
and we were best of intention
and now we know better.
855
00:39:37,062 --> 00:39:39,531
- That apology may never come
856
00:39:39,531 --> 00:39:41,767
and the largest health
organizations dedicated
857
00:39:41,767 --> 00:39:45,271
to preventing obesity and
type 2 diabetes continue
858
00:39:45,271 --> 00:39:48,073
to spread advice
that makes it worse.
859
00:39:55,347 --> 00:39:58,249
- Type 2 diabetes we were
always taught is a chronic
860
00:39:58,249 --> 00:40:02,254
and irreversible disease,
inevitably progressive.
861
00:40:02,254 --> 00:40:05,223
I flatly rejected that,
I flatly rejected.
862
00:40:05,223 --> 00:40:09,461
So it is chronic, irreversible,
and inevitably progressive
863
00:40:09,461 --> 00:40:13,899
if you take the guidelines
currently in place
864
00:40:13,899 --> 00:40:16,535
and utilize them as
your treatment plan.
865
00:40:16,535 --> 00:40:18,537
(keyboard typing)
866
00:40:18,537 --> 00:40:21,140
- [Dr. Mark] For years, the
American Diabetes Association
867
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:23,274
has promoted low-fat diets.
868
00:40:23,274 --> 00:40:26,077
They use this handy
graphic illustration called
869
00:40:26,077 --> 00:40:28,814
the Diabetic Plate, which
features limited amounts
870
00:40:28,814 --> 00:40:32,818
of lean meat, non-fat
dairy products and 50%
871
00:40:32,818 --> 00:40:36,022
or more of daily calories
as carbohydrates.
872
00:40:36,022 --> 00:40:39,024
- I think the Diabetic
Plate is a prescription
873
00:40:39,024 --> 00:40:40,727
for worsening of the disease.
874
00:40:40,727 --> 00:40:42,629
If you really look at
the Diabetic Plate,
875
00:40:42,629 --> 00:40:47,600
it is 3/4 carbohydrates,
which makes no sense.
876
00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:50,903
It also is lean protein,
877
00:40:50,903 --> 00:40:53,104
so when we look at the
Diabetic Plate as a whole,
878
00:40:53,104 --> 00:40:55,073
there's almost no fats.
879
00:40:57,577 --> 00:41:01,680
- This is a way to make
people sicker and fatter.
880
00:41:02,714 --> 00:41:04,049
This is the advice I was giving,
881
00:41:04,049 --> 00:41:05,618
this is the advice
that doesn't work.
882
00:41:05,618 --> 00:41:08,988
This is the advice that
prescribes more medications,
883
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:11,022
this is the advice
that increases insulin.
884
00:41:11,022 --> 00:41:13,626
But really it's a metabolic
shift when you burn fat
885
00:41:13,626 --> 00:41:15,327
instead of burning sugar.
886
00:41:15,327 --> 00:41:17,863
- [Dr. Mark] Alyssa Gallagher
is Judi's dietician.
887
00:41:17,863 --> 00:41:21,568
She was initially trained
in the low-fat paradigm.
888
00:41:21,568 --> 00:41:25,604
- When I first started
exploring the low-carb approach.
889
00:41:25,604 --> 00:41:28,740
- [Judi] That's really
low-carb, I can use that.
890
00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:31,377
- I helped people genuinely,
891
00:41:31,377 --> 00:41:33,245
for the first time in my career.
892
00:41:33,245 --> 00:41:34,847
- I'm going for real food now,
893
00:41:34,847 --> 00:41:36,749
so I can get rid of all of this.
894
00:41:36,749 --> 00:41:39,118
- In the old days,
I was frustrated
895
00:41:39,118 --> 00:41:43,055
that the advice I was giving
wasn't working for people.
896
00:41:44,557 --> 00:41:48,627
- Oh, chips and crackers,
where is that garbage can?
897
00:41:48,627 --> 00:41:51,698
- I was taught, essentially what
898
00:41:51,698 --> 00:41:56,669
the American Diabetes
Association teaches
is carbohydrates,
899
00:41:58,037 --> 00:42:00,673
consistent carbohydrates,
more whole grains.
900
00:42:00,673 --> 00:42:05,310
- No oatmeal, they used to
tell us that was good for you.
901
00:42:05,310 --> 00:42:07,513
- I was taught saturated
fat is bad for you.
902
00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:11,818
Saturated fat is
something to be avoided
903
00:42:11,818 --> 00:42:14,653
and limited at all costs.
904
00:42:15,854 --> 00:42:17,388
- [Dr. Mark] The problem
is, when you remove fat
905
00:42:17,388 --> 00:42:21,827
from the diet, you have to
eat something else instead
906
00:42:21,827 --> 00:42:26,832
and that something else
is often carbohydrates.
907
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:28,935
- At first I didn't understand
908
00:42:28,935 --> 00:42:30,970
why the advice I was
giving wasn't working.
909
00:42:31,838 --> 00:42:33,472
It's what I learned in school.
910
00:42:33,472 --> 00:42:35,106
I'm the nutrition expert, right?
911
00:42:35,106 --> 00:42:36,709
It should be working.
912
00:42:36,709 --> 00:42:40,111
And then eventually it started
not making sense to me.
913
00:42:40,111 --> 00:42:42,247
Why am I telling
somebody with diabetes
914
00:42:42,247 --> 00:42:44,816
that they must
eat carbohydrates?
915
00:42:46,185 --> 00:42:47,118
It didn't make any sense.
916
00:42:47,118 --> 00:42:49,055
Carbohydrates raise blood sugar,
917
00:42:49,055 --> 00:42:50,321
when you have
higher blood sugars,
918
00:42:50,321 --> 00:42:52,158
we need to give you
more medication.
919
00:42:52,158 --> 00:42:55,493
When we give you more
medication, you gain weight.
920
00:42:55,493 --> 00:42:57,396
When you gain weight,
you need more medication,
921
00:42:57,396 --> 00:43:00,231
you wanna eat more carbs,
it became a vicious cycle.
922
00:43:00,231 --> 00:43:03,169
- Okay, I think I'm done
cleaning out my pantry.
923
00:43:03,169 --> 00:43:06,104
- An insulin resistance
is essentially a state
924
00:43:06,104 --> 00:43:08,307
of carbohydrate intolerance.
925
00:43:08,307 --> 00:43:12,211
So why or why do we wanna
continue to recommend
926
00:43:12,211 --> 00:43:15,046
to people to eat them?
927
00:43:15,046 --> 00:43:17,216
- [Dr. Mark] Sarah Hallberg is
a physician leading arguably
928
00:43:17,216 --> 00:43:21,419
the most promising trial ever
conducted on type 2 diabetes.
929
00:43:21,419 --> 00:43:23,522
She's helped hundreds
of patients safely
930
00:43:23,522 --> 00:43:26,926
and sustainably reverse
their diabetes diagnosis,
931
00:43:26,926 --> 00:43:29,761
often, getting off
of all medications
932
00:43:29,761 --> 00:43:33,131
by cutting carbohydrates and
increasing their fat intake,
933
00:43:33,131 --> 00:43:37,068
a lot, to as much as 70 to
80% of their daily calories.
934
00:43:38,403 --> 00:43:41,406
- The solution to the
diabetes problem in my clinic
935
00:43:41,406 --> 00:43:46,412
is exceedingly clear, stop
using medicine to treat food.
936
00:43:48,347 --> 00:43:51,283
- [Dr. Mark] Her TED Talk on
this unconventional approach
937
00:43:51,283 --> 00:43:53,852
has nearly five million views.
938
00:43:53,852 --> 00:43:57,423
The title, Reversing
Type 2 diabetes starts
939
00:43:57,423 --> 00:43:59,959
with ignoring the guidelines.
940
00:43:59,959 --> 00:44:01,894
- Fat is central
941
00:44:01,894 --> 00:44:05,731
to any science-based
nutrition recommendation
942
00:44:05,731 --> 00:44:09,001
for anyone who struggles
with type 2 diabetes.
943
00:44:09,001 --> 00:44:13,372
Carbohydrates cause our
insulin and glucose to go up,
944
00:44:13,372 --> 00:44:18,377
proteins much less, and
with fat, there's no glucose
945
00:44:19,211 --> 00:44:21,013
or insulin reaction.
946
00:44:21,013 --> 00:44:25,383
And given the fact that
type 2 diabetes is a problem
947
00:44:25,383 --> 00:44:28,754
with elevated glucose,
wait a minute,
948
00:44:28,754 --> 00:44:32,258
we can't be recommending
the macronutrient
949
00:44:32,258 --> 00:44:35,426
that's gonna cause glucose
and insulin to go up,
950
00:44:35,426 --> 00:44:40,332
but that's exactly what MyPlate
and the ADA guidelines do.
951
00:44:40,332 --> 00:44:43,803
They recommend us to
eat the macronutrient
952
00:44:43,803 --> 00:44:45,972
that's causing the problem.
953
00:44:45,972 --> 00:44:49,307
- [Dr. Mark] In her clinical
trial of nearly 500 patients,
954
00:44:49,307 --> 00:44:52,243
60% of the intervention
group reversed
955
00:44:52,243 --> 00:44:54,312
their diagnosis of diabetes.
956
00:44:54,312 --> 00:44:56,348
That's more than
half the patients
957
00:44:56,348 --> 00:44:58,850
whose blood sugars normalized.
958
00:44:58,850 --> 00:45:03,388
94% had their insulin doses
decreased or totally eliminated
959
00:45:03,388 --> 00:45:07,325
with no increase in their
LDL or lousy cholesterol.
960
00:45:07,325 --> 00:45:10,897
By comparison, the American
Diabetes Association reports
961
00:45:10,897 --> 00:45:14,867
a less than 1% success
rate at reversing diabetes
962
00:45:14,867 --> 00:45:18,370
when following their
own, low-fat advice.
963
00:45:18,370 --> 00:45:22,307
- So if we want people
to really get help,
964
00:45:22,307 --> 00:45:27,312
we have to start giving them
advice that actually works.
965
00:45:28,747 --> 00:45:32,051
- It's hard when you have, let
alone been hearing something
966
00:45:32,051 --> 00:45:35,021
for decades but been saying
something for decades,
967
00:45:35,021 --> 00:45:37,488
it's difficult to
turn that ship around.
968
00:45:37,488 --> 00:45:41,026
Because to turn that ship around
you have to be vulnerable.
969
00:45:41,026 --> 00:45:44,196
You have to say, I was wrong.
970
00:45:44,196 --> 00:45:47,867
And this involves a
lot of organizations,
971
00:45:47,867 --> 00:45:52,303
a lot of people saying I was
wrong, and I think that's hard.
972
00:45:52,303 --> 00:45:53,604
I think that's a big deal.
973
00:45:55,006 --> 00:45:56,742
- [Dr. Mark] After years
of following the guidelines
974
00:45:56,742 --> 00:45:59,778
and getting nowhere,
Judi has decided
975
00:45:59,778 --> 00:46:01,848
to ignore the ADA's
advice and try
976
00:46:01,848 --> 00:46:05,084
to reverse her type 2
diabetes with a low-carb,
977
00:46:05,084 --> 00:46:07,318
high-fat nutrition plan.
978
00:46:07,318 --> 00:46:09,287
- The health professionals
that were giving us all
979
00:46:09,287 --> 00:46:13,091
that advice through the
years just bounced us back
980
00:46:13,091 --> 00:46:15,794
and forth, and we never
really had any answers.
981
00:46:15,794 --> 00:46:18,564
- I really like
unsweetened coconut chips.
982
00:46:18,564 --> 00:46:23,568
- I feel like what I'm learning
now is a way toward health
983
00:46:24,970 --> 00:46:27,874
and a way toward a better
size that I'll feel good about
984
00:46:27,874 --> 00:46:30,776
which to me is hand in
hand with my health.
985
00:46:33,178 --> 00:46:36,147
- The U.S. military is
now facing a new threat.
986
00:46:36,147 --> 00:46:39,017
It's not North Korea, it
is actually the U.S. diet.
987
00:46:39,017 --> 00:46:42,120
- The single biggest
disqualifier is obesity.
988
00:46:42,988 --> 00:46:44,423
- Wait?
989
00:46:44,423 --> 00:46:45,756
We're talking
about young people?
990
00:46:45,756 --> 00:46:47,359
- Right, youth obesity.
991
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:50,562
- [Reporter] 25% of
all potential recruits
are turned away
992
00:46:50,562 --> 00:46:51,964
because of their weight.
993
00:46:54,499 --> 00:46:58,303
- At this point in time,
we can't field an army,
994
00:46:59,470 --> 00:47:02,573
because they are
"too fat to fight"
995
00:47:02,573 --> 00:47:05,944
that's not my words, that's
the U.S. Army's words.
996
00:47:07,513 --> 00:47:10,348
- A few months ago, the army
missed its recruitment goals
997
00:47:10,348 --> 00:47:12,584
for the first time in 13 years.
998
00:47:14,452 --> 00:47:17,122
We've gotten to a point
where we're too fat
999
00:47:17,122 --> 00:47:18,490
to defend ourselves.
1000
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:26,664
- [Dr. Mark] Captain
Brian Gaudette
1001
00:47:26,664 --> 00:47:29,435
is an Apache helicopter
pilot, an entrepreneur
1002
00:47:29,435 --> 00:47:30,769
and a living example
1003
00:47:30,769 --> 00:47:33,839
of why the U.S. Dietary
Guidelines matter.
1004
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:37,008
- [Brian Gaudette] Flying Apache
helicopters is probably one
1005
00:47:37,008 --> 00:47:39,178
of the most fun
things on the planet,
1006
00:47:39,178 --> 00:47:42,381
but it's also very high stakes.
1007
00:47:42,381 --> 00:47:46,517
You need all of your
faculties to stay safe.
1008
00:47:46,517 --> 00:47:47,919
- [Dr. Mark] On high
stakes missions,
1009
00:47:47,919 --> 00:47:49,620
often on the other
side of the world,
1010
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:51,923
Brian was confined to army food,
1011
00:47:51,923 --> 00:47:56,261
a diet dictated by the
dietary guidelines.
1012
00:47:56,261 --> 00:47:59,397
- I always had
sandwiches for lunch,
1013
00:47:59,397 --> 00:48:04,336
lots of noodle-based dishes,
lots of rice-based dishes.
1014
00:48:05,736 --> 00:48:06,671
I was running about three
or four times a week,
1015
00:48:06,671 --> 00:48:08,406
between three and five miles,
1016
00:48:08,406 --> 00:48:10,709
but the weight was
still coming on.
1017
00:48:12,343 --> 00:48:16,982
One day I was in the cockpit,
and I put my head down,
1018
00:48:16,982 --> 00:48:19,551
and it felt like the
world was moving,
1019
00:48:19,551 --> 00:48:21,086
like the aircraft was moving.
1020
00:48:21,086 --> 00:48:24,423
I looked up really quick, and
then I put my head down again.
1021
00:48:24,423 --> 00:48:29,428
I felt it again and so I kinda
had to raise my hand and say,
1022
00:48:30,296 --> 00:48:31,830
hey, we have a problem here.
1023
00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:34,765
- [Dr. Mark] Brian knew he was
sick, but he didn't know why.
1024
00:48:34,765 --> 00:48:36,801
He was grounded from flying.
1025
00:48:36,801 --> 00:48:40,839
- For the next eight months
I went to every specialist.
1026
00:48:40,839 --> 00:48:42,740
- Do you have a brain tumor?
1027
00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:44,075
Is it an inner ear thing?
1028
00:48:44,075 --> 00:48:45,176
Is there a cardiac issue?
1029
00:48:45,176 --> 00:48:46,711
Is there a neurological issue?
1030
00:48:46,711 --> 00:48:48,546
- And they said,
"You know, Brian,
1031
00:48:48,546 --> 00:48:50,848
"sometimes stress does
weird stuff to the body,"
1032
00:48:50,848 --> 00:48:54,019
and handed me a card
for mental health.
1033
00:48:54,019 --> 00:48:56,888
- [Dr. Mark] Not one medical
specialist asked Brian
1034
00:48:56,888 --> 00:48:58,124
about his nutrition.
1035
00:48:58,124 --> 00:48:59,457
- And they were just like,
1036
00:48:59,457 --> 00:49:03,461
"Sorry, that's about
all we can do for you."
1037
00:49:03,461 --> 00:49:05,696
So there was a turning
point where I was like,
1038
00:49:05,696 --> 00:49:08,299
okay, well, we've got to
figure this out on our own.
1039
00:49:16,341 --> 00:49:18,243
- [Dr. Mark] Brian decided
to try an elimination diet
1040
00:49:18,243 --> 00:49:21,546
and he cut out all
grains and sugar.
1041
00:49:21,546 --> 00:49:23,814
- For really, just
efficiency and for taste,
1042
00:49:23,814 --> 00:49:28,720
I made these giant batches
of bone broth, vegetable,
1043
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:33,392
and meat soups, and I just
ate them pretty much every day
1044
00:49:33,392 --> 00:49:34,792
and that's where
sort of the nickname,
1045
00:49:34,792 --> 00:49:36,662
Captain Soup, came from.
1046
00:49:36,662 --> 00:49:39,997
In about six weeks,
I got my brain back,
1047
00:49:39,997 --> 00:49:44,269
I got my energy back,
I lost about 25 pounds.
1048
00:49:44,269 --> 00:49:46,405
- I started to see
my husband come back.
1049
00:49:46,405 --> 00:49:50,408
I started to see my
children's father come back.
1050
00:49:50,408 --> 00:49:53,611
It's miraculous to me
what just food can do.
1051
00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:56,314
- [Dr. Mark] Just by
changing what he ate,
1052
00:49:56,314 --> 00:49:58,417
Brian's health
problems resolved.
1053
00:49:58,417 --> 00:50:00,618
He no longer takes
any medication,
1054
00:50:00,618 --> 00:50:02,321
he's back to his
high school weight,
1055
00:50:02,321 --> 00:50:05,890
and the army has reinstated
his flight status.
1056
00:50:05,890 --> 00:50:09,361
And now he's sharing his recipe
for health with the world.
1057
00:50:09,361 --> 00:50:12,631
- [Brian Gaudette] Now we make
just super-clean keto soups,
1058
00:50:12,631 --> 00:50:15,767
and we ship them frozen
all over the country.
1059
00:50:15,767 --> 00:50:17,736
- [Dr. Mark] These days, when
Brian goes on deployment,
1060
00:50:17,736 --> 00:50:19,905
he ships ahead cases of soup,
1061
00:50:19,905 --> 00:50:24,443
he no longer relies on the army
food that made him so sick.
1062
00:50:24,443 --> 00:50:27,312
- When my son was
born, I was really sick
1063
00:50:27,312 --> 00:50:30,415
and I look back at
photos from that time
1064
00:50:30,415 --> 00:50:34,553
and I barely remember
anything about that year,
1065
00:50:34,553 --> 00:50:38,089
because I was so
out of it, sorry.
1066
00:50:39,591 --> 00:50:41,026
And when you don't have energy
1067
00:50:41,026 --> 00:50:43,328
and you don't have your health,
1068
00:50:43,328 --> 00:50:45,062
you don't really have anything.
1069
00:50:47,098 --> 00:50:49,234
I have my brain back,
I have my energy back
1070
00:50:49,234 --> 00:50:52,703
and I can show up and
be there for my kids
1071
00:50:52,703 --> 00:50:54,406
and for my wife like I wanna be.
1072
00:50:58,144 --> 00:51:00,412
- Today, less than
20% of medical schools
1073
00:51:00,412 --> 00:51:02,314
require nutrition
training for physicians
1074
00:51:02,314 --> 00:51:04,850
and that's slowly changing,
but a widespread lack
1075
00:51:04,850 --> 00:51:08,120
of nutrition knowledge means
many physicians misunderstand
1076
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,289
the root causes of chronic
and metabolic diseases
1077
00:51:11,289 --> 00:51:13,124
which are often driven by diet.
1078
00:51:16,194 --> 00:51:18,597
- When a physician
preaches low-fat
1079
00:51:18,597 --> 00:51:21,966
and a physician preaches
reducing calories
1080
00:51:21,966 --> 00:51:25,937
and they try that themselves,
it doesn't take long for some
1081
00:51:25,937 --> 00:51:28,207
of them to realize, this
isn't working for me,
1082
00:51:28,207 --> 00:51:30,542
maybe it's not working
for my patients, either.
1083
00:51:31,443 --> 00:51:32,310
- Hi.
1084
00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:33,144
- Hi.
1085
00:51:33,144 --> 00:51:33,979
- How are you doing?
1086
00:51:33,979 --> 00:51:35,481
- Good.
1087
00:51:35,481 --> 00:51:37,048
- [Dr. Mark] Physicians
are not immune to obesity.
1088
00:51:37,048 --> 00:51:40,685
Plenty of them struggle with
their own health challenges.
1089
00:51:40,685 --> 00:51:42,120
- Until two years ago,
1090
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,524
I was trying to do the American
Diabetes Association diet,
1091
00:51:45,524 --> 00:51:46,758
the American Heart Association,
1092
00:51:46,758 --> 00:51:49,093
trying to eat a low-fat diet,
1093
00:51:49,093 --> 00:51:50,861
eating small meals
throughout the day
1094
00:51:50,861 --> 00:51:52,198
and I'm gaining weight.
1095
00:51:52,198 --> 00:51:54,832
Up, two, up, three.
1096
00:51:54,832 --> 00:51:56,334
I was working out
six days a week
1097
00:51:56,334 --> 00:51:58,604
because I would say I gotta
work out if I wanna lose weight,
1098
00:51:58,604 --> 00:52:00,406
I wanna be an example
to my patients.
1099
00:52:00,406 --> 00:52:02,973
You're exercising
but like they say,
1100
00:52:02,973 --> 00:52:04,310
you can't outrun your fork.
1101
00:52:05,743 --> 00:52:08,314
- [Dr. Mark] Like many docs,
Brian Lenzkes was trained
1102
00:52:08,314 --> 00:52:11,082
in the low-fat paradigm and
that's what he practiced
1103
00:52:11,082 --> 00:52:12,618
with his patients for decades.
1104
00:52:13,752 --> 00:52:15,220
But the struggle
with his own weight
1105
00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:17,122
was getting out of control.
1106
00:52:17,122 --> 00:52:19,990
- Yeah, at that point I
was around 260 pounds,
1107
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:22,627
and at that time I
was also pre-diabetic.
1108
00:52:22,627 --> 00:52:24,463
Clearly what I was
doing wasn't working.
1109
00:52:24,463 --> 00:52:26,464
I was following the
government guidelines
1110
00:52:26,464 --> 00:52:28,299
and I was getting
sicker and sicker.
1111
00:52:28,299 --> 00:52:31,068
And it's not working
for me, well,
1112
00:52:31,068 --> 00:52:32,537
were my patients
not listening to me
1113
00:52:32,537 --> 00:52:34,705
or was I giving them bad advice?
1114
00:52:34,705 --> 00:52:37,209
And it turns out we
were giving bad advice.
1115
00:52:37,209 --> 00:52:40,479
- Honey, I got a
mixture of chicken,
1116
00:52:40,479 --> 00:52:44,615
Italian seasoned sausage
and a spicy pork.
1117
00:52:44,615 --> 00:52:46,952
- So when I cut carbohydrates
the interesting thing for me,
1118
00:52:46,952 --> 00:52:49,053
if I had eggs for
breakfast for instance,
1119
00:52:49,053 --> 00:52:51,122
my ten o'clock snack
that I was gonna have,
1120
00:52:51,122 --> 00:52:53,459
I wasn't hungry and I would
skip right through it.
1121
00:52:54,825 --> 00:52:56,528
Within the first six
months I was down
1122
00:52:56,528 --> 00:52:59,097
about 28 pounds, 30 pounds.
1123
00:52:59,097 --> 00:53:01,031
I was putting on muscle mass
and I was feeling really good.
1124
00:53:01,031 --> 00:53:05,537
My energy, my mental clarity,
my focus, my fatigue levels,
1125
00:53:05,537 --> 00:53:06,738
all those things got better.
1126
00:53:06,738 --> 00:53:08,939
I was like, wow,
pretty interesting.
1127
00:53:08,939 --> 00:53:10,408
- How many of you guys
have lost 10 pounds
1128
00:53:10,408 --> 00:53:11,743
or more pounds to
low-carb or keto?
1129
00:53:11,743 --> 00:53:14,078
- And he's been a
fantastic ambassador
1130
00:53:14,078 --> 00:53:16,615
for low-carb lifestyle because
he's seen it personally
1131
00:53:16,615 --> 00:53:19,149
and now he's seen it with
hundreds of his patients.
1132
00:53:19,149 --> 00:53:20,586
- Hey, how are doing?
1133
00:53:20,586 --> 00:53:21,419
- Fine.
1134
00:53:21,419 --> 00:53:22,720
- So good to see you.
1135
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:23,555
- Thank you.
1136
00:53:23,555 --> 00:53:25,022
- How's things?
1137
00:53:25,022 --> 00:53:26,725
In all my years of practice,
I never saw anyone cured
1138
00:53:26,725 --> 00:53:29,160
of diabetes by going
on a low-fat diet,
never, not one time.
1139
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,696
No one came off insulin.
1140
00:53:30,696 --> 00:53:32,930
- [Dr. Mark] Since switching
his practice to a low-carb,
1141
00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:34,899
ketogenic approach,
nearly a dozen
1142
00:53:34,899 --> 00:53:38,236
of Brian's patients have
reversed their type 2 diabetes
1143
00:53:38,236 --> 00:53:40,406
and come off insulin altogether.
1144
00:53:40,406 --> 00:53:41,973
- [Dr. Brian] I was just
looking at your numbers
1145
00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:45,343
and I think of anyone I've seen,
1146
00:53:45,343 --> 00:53:47,678
you've come off insulin
faster than anyone.
1147
00:53:47,678 --> 00:53:52,651
- I feel brand new, brand new.
1148
00:53:52,651 --> 00:53:55,120
So I'm sticking with the diet.
1149
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,457
- At three months, I went
from insulin five times a day
1150
00:53:58,457 --> 00:54:03,361
to no insulin and was able to
maintain normal blood sugars.
1151
00:54:04,562 --> 00:54:06,698
- I don't remember
if Doctor Lenzkes
1152
00:54:06,698 --> 00:54:11,502
suggested keto specifically
for the weight loss
1153
00:54:11,502 --> 00:54:14,104
or if it wasn't for the
other issues that I had.
1154
00:54:14,104 --> 00:54:18,243
I started it, and I do love
butter, and I do love cream
1155
00:54:18,243 --> 00:54:19,877
and I do love bacon.
1156
00:54:19,877 --> 00:54:23,180
So it sounded really
pretty good to me.
1157
00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:28,086
I ate less, and what
I ate, I enjoyed more.
1158
00:54:28,086 --> 00:54:32,390
- Since last March, a year ago,
1159
00:54:33,691 --> 00:54:36,627
I've lost between
50 and 60 pounds,
1160
00:54:36,627 --> 00:54:38,162
but I've gained a
lot of strength,
1161
00:54:38,162 --> 00:54:40,432
I've gained a lot
of muscle as well.
1162
00:54:40,432 --> 00:54:42,468
- So, I've lost over 200 pounds.
1163
00:54:43,502 --> 00:54:44,970
- It's just mind boggling.
1164
00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:48,305
He hadn't taken any
patients off insulin ever
1165
00:54:48,305 --> 00:54:51,276
in his entire career
and in five months,
1166
00:54:51,276 --> 00:54:53,444
he got 11 patients off
insulin completely.
1167
00:54:54,646 --> 00:54:57,082
How can you not
acknowledge that?
1168
00:54:57,082 --> 00:54:59,316
- You've done incredible things,
just two years ago you were
1169
00:54:59,316 --> 00:55:02,553
on insulin five times a day,
huge doses and you asked me,
1170
00:55:02,553 --> 00:55:04,022
can I come off this insulin?
1171
00:55:04,022 --> 00:55:05,890
I'm gaining weight, I'm tired,
I'm fatigued all the time,
1172
00:55:05,890 --> 00:55:07,892
and now seeing you,
where you are at now,
1173
00:55:07,892 --> 00:55:10,461
it's pretty remarkable where
you've accomplished just
1174
00:55:10,461 --> 00:55:12,397
by making some
lifestyle changes.
1175
00:55:12,397 --> 00:55:14,865
They're empowered now to
get themselves off insulin.
1176
00:55:14,865 --> 00:55:17,368
So now they're seeing it.
1177
00:55:17,368 --> 00:55:20,338
Now my patients are telling
other patients and they're going
1178
00:55:20,338 --> 00:55:21,573
to them to say, hey, how come
this person came off insulin?
1179
00:55:21,573 --> 00:55:23,107
I thought it couldn't happen.
1180
00:55:23,107 --> 00:55:26,912
It can happen, it does happen
and we're excited about that.
1181
00:55:26,912 --> 00:55:28,914
I don't know anyone else
who has lost as much weight
1182
00:55:28,914 --> 00:55:31,115
as you have, even with
gastric bypass surgery,
1183
00:55:31,115 --> 00:55:32,417
I've never seen it.
1184
00:55:32,417 --> 00:55:33,984
The fact that you
are coming down
1185
00:55:33,984 --> 00:55:36,754
off all your diabetes
medications, you're
off them now,
1186
00:55:36,754 --> 00:55:38,256
your blood pressure came down,
1187
00:55:38,256 --> 00:55:39,624
all these things
are getting better
1188
00:55:39,624 --> 00:55:41,760
and we're slowly getting
you off of medications.
1189
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,396
You are making progress and
you're a ton of progress,
1190
00:55:44,396 --> 00:55:46,731
more than anyone I've ever seen.
1191
00:55:46,731 --> 00:55:49,299
- That shift that he
saw in his patients,
1192
00:55:49,299 --> 00:55:52,069
being able to actually
remove medications
1193
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:54,772
and make them healthier
at the same time
1194
00:55:54,772 --> 00:55:56,841
was just tremendous
and it all started
1195
00:55:56,841 --> 00:55:58,376
with his own personal journey.
1196
00:56:00,646 --> 00:56:04,915
- Maybe, eventually, the
government will come around.
1197
00:56:04,915 --> 00:56:08,953
- Maybe possibly so, if
not, it's your health.
1198
00:56:08,953 --> 00:56:10,988
We can do it as
individuals and when people
1199
00:56:10,988 --> 00:56:12,256
are seeing people
will have benefits,
1200
00:56:12,256 --> 00:56:13,924
they are gonna wanna
go to that lifestyle,
1201
00:56:13,924 --> 00:56:18,196
and what we are seeing day
after day is super exciting,
1202
00:56:18,196 --> 00:56:19,330
so thank you.
1203
00:56:19,330 --> 00:56:20,131
- Thank you so much.
- Thank you
1204
00:56:20,131 --> 00:56:21,633
for encouraging me too.
1205
00:56:21,633 --> 00:56:24,602
- Oh no, you're wonderful,
you are absolutely the best.
1206
00:56:24,602 --> 00:56:26,236
- You're awesome, thank you.
1207
00:56:26,236 --> 00:56:28,606
- So the three main
macronutrients in
food are carbohydrate,
1208
00:56:28,606 --> 00:56:31,709
protein and fat and
here's an important point,
1209
00:56:31,709 --> 00:56:35,146
there are essential fats
and essential proteins,
1210
00:56:35,146 --> 00:56:37,848
but there are no
essential carbohydrates.
1211
00:56:39,017 --> 00:56:41,151
Essential means the
nutrients are required
1212
00:56:41,151 --> 00:56:45,490
to sustain human life, we
must eat these to survive.
1213
00:56:45,490 --> 00:56:49,127
But there is no physical
or biological need for us
1214
00:56:49,127 --> 00:56:52,030
to consume any
carbohydrates at all.
1215
00:57:00,171 --> 00:57:03,140
- [Doug Reynolds] I was
an ultra distance runner,
1216
00:57:04,341 --> 00:57:07,377
not an elite athlete,
but I was pretty good
1217
00:57:07,377 --> 00:57:09,680
and finished in the
top 100 out of a field
1218
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,549
of about 14, 15000.
1219
00:57:12,984 --> 00:57:15,720
- [Dr. Mark] By the time he was
30 years old, Doug Reynolds,
1220
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:18,856
had run almost 100 marathons
in ultra marathons.
1221
00:57:20,057 --> 00:57:21,859
He was in the best
shape of his life,
1222
00:57:21,859 --> 00:57:24,028
but something wasn't right.
1223
00:57:24,028 --> 00:57:27,865
- And I would be incredibly
fit, and yet on the day
1224
00:57:27,865 --> 00:57:30,901
of the race, I would be
standing there thinking,
1225
00:57:30,901 --> 00:57:34,004
I've got to run up that
mountain for 55 miles,
1226
00:57:34,004 --> 00:57:35,240
I can't even get to the corner.
1227
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,274
I felt terrible.
1228
00:57:37,274 --> 00:57:39,410
I used to think it
was just nerves.
1229
00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:40,611
- [Dr. Mark] Like many people,
1230
00:57:40,611 --> 00:57:42,379
Doug thought athletes
couldn't function
1231
00:57:42,379 --> 00:57:45,149
without carbohydrates,
he would binge on carbs
1232
00:57:45,149 --> 00:57:46,917
in the days leading
up to the race.
1233
00:57:46,917 --> 00:57:48,153
- But it wasn't the nerves,
1234
00:57:48,153 --> 00:57:50,120
it was the fact that
three days before,
1235
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:55,126
I'd just gorge myself on all
these pastas and potatoes
1236
00:57:56,426 --> 00:57:58,296
and all these carbohydrates
and it was toxic.
1237
00:57:58,296 --> 00:58:00,798
- [Dr. Mark] It's a familiar
story to doctor Tim Noakes,
1238
00:58:00,798 --> 00:58:03,635
the man who wrote the
book on carb-loading.
1239
00:58:03,635 --> 00:58:05,537
- So the first four
chapters are all
1240
00:58:05,537 --> 00:58:07,138
on high carbohydrate diets
1241
00:58:07,138 --> 00:58:09,841
and how the most important
determinant of your success
1242
00:58:09,841 --> 00:58:13,443
in running is how much
carbohydrates you're eating.
1243
00:58:13,443 --> 00:58:16,981
So I promoted this and all
the time while I was writing
1244
00:58:16,981 --> 00:58:19,049
this I was getting
fatter, less healthy
1245
00:58:19,049 --> 00:58:22,588
and my running was getting
slower and slower and slower,
1246
00:58:22,588 --> 00:58:25,656
to the point where I was
really hating running.
1247
00:58:25,656 --> 00:58:27,758
- [Dr. Mark] Even though they
were exercising a lot more
1248
00:58:27,758 --> 00:58:31,328
than most people, both men
suffered from their low-fat,
1249
00:58:31,328 --> 00:58:32,698
high-carb diets.
1250
00:58:32,698 --> 00:58:34,832
- I started to put on
a little bit of weight
1251
00:58:34,832 --> 00:58:36,066
and I never used to weigh myself
1252
00:58:36,066 --> 00:58:38,303
because I was always
a runner, I was fine.
1253
00:58:39,738 --> 00:58:42,006
And I got on the scale and I
was like 35 pounds overweight.
1254
00:58:42,006 --> 00:58:43,841
I thought the scale was broken.
1255
00:58:43,841 --> 00:58:46,010
- And then, much
more interestingly,
1256
00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:48,312
I discovered I had
type 2 diabetes,
1257
00:58:48,312 --> 00:58:50,314
which was predictable
'cause my dad had died
1258
00:58:50,314 --> 00:58:53,283
from the disease and my
dad took 10 years to die
1259
00:58:53,283 --> 00:58:56,220
and I figured, I've got ten
years to sort this problem out.
1260
00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:58,189
- Both Tim and Doug
decided to break
1261
00:58:58,189 --> 00:59:01,158
with convention and
try a low-carb diet.
1262
00:59:01,158 --> 00:59:03,894
They cut carbs to less
than 20 grams a day,
1263
00:59:03,894 --> 00:59:05,396
ate moderate amounts of protein
1264
00:59:05,396 --> 00:59:10,001
and began eating 70% to 80%
of daily calories as fat.
1265
00:59:10,001 --> 00:59:12,671
Nutrition is actually
pretty simple,
1266
00:59:12,671 --> 00:59:15,740
your body needs protein
and protein comes first,
1267
00:59:15,740 --> 00:59:17,743
that's essential, but
then you can choose
1268
00:59:17,743 --> 00:59:19,644
to run your body
on carbohydrates,
1269
00:59:19,644 --> 00:59:23,814
including sugars and starches
or fats and it's your choice.
1270
00:59:23,814 --> 00:59:26,417
If you quit eating carbs,
sugars, and starches,
1271
00:59:26,417 --> 00:59:30,321
your body is forced to use an
alternative fuel source, fat.
1272
00:59:30,321 --> 00:59:33,725
Burning fat produces
substances called ketones
1273
00:59:33,725 --> 00:59:36,426
that provide all the energy
you need to fuel your body
1274
00:59:36,426 --> 00:59:37,928
and your brain.
1275
00:59:37,928 --> 00:59:39,164
That's why the low-carb,
1276
00:59:39,164 --> 00:59:41,700
high-fat diet has been
given the name keto.
1277
00:59:42,734 --> 00:59:44,202
For most of human history,
1278
00:59:44,202 --> 00:59:46,805
there has been very little
sugar or starches in the diet.
1279
00:59:46,805 --> 00:59:49,807
In fact, if you put all of
human history in one year,
1280
00:59:49,807 --> 00:59:51,242
it's only in the last day
1281
00:59:51,242 --> 00:59:53,144
that people started
eating grains or bread
1282
00:59:53,144 --> 00:59:55,513
and it's only in the last hour
1283
00:59:55,513 --> 00:59:57,515
that people have
been eating sugar.
1284
00:59:57,515 --> 01:00:01,019
- In fact we know that
keeping people in ketosis,
1285
01:00:01,019 --> 01:00:05,490
keeping the carbs very low may
actually be the preferred way
1286
01:00:05,490 --> 01:00:07,492
for people to be.
1287
01:00:07,492 --> 01:00:09,727
- Eventually, I dropped
right down 44 pounds
1288
01:00:09,727 --> 01:00:12,030
and I went back to
my weight that I had
1289
01:00:12,030 --> 01:00:15,600
when I was running in 1972.
1290
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,435
And I'm glad to say,
after seven years,
1291
01:00:17,435 --> 01:00:20,772
my blood glucose control is as
good as it could be expected
1292
01:00:20,772 --> 01:00:23,841
for someone of my age of 69.
1293
01:00:23,841 --> 01:00:28,345
I'm not completely normal,
but I'm 99% normal.
1294
01:00:28,345 --> 01:00:30,948
- [Dr. Mark] Tim famously tore
out the pages on carb-loading
1295
01:00:30,948 --> 01:00:32,718
from his "Lore of Running" book
1296
01:00:32,718 --> 01:00:35,120
and promotes ketogenic
diets for athletes.
1297
01:00:36,486 --> 01:00:38,022
- [Doug Reynolds] Two,
three weeks after I started
1298
01:00:38,022 --> 01:00:39,857
on this keto diet, I
was jumping out of bed
1299
01:00:39,857 --> 01:00:42,760
and going for a run in the
morning and enjoying it.
1300
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,430
It's just been the most amazing
transformation in my life.
1301
01:00:47,832 --> 01:00:49,267
- [Dr. Mark] Doug started
own company called,
1302
01:00:49,267 --> 01:00:53,571
LowCarbUSA, dedicated to
education and nutrition support.
1303
01:00:53,571 --> 01:00:58,309
His logo, our nation's food
pyramid turned upside down.
1304
01:00:58,309 --> 01:01:02,312
- Well, yeah, the whole idea
was that the reason we're
1305
01:01:02,312 --> 01:01:06,283
in this terrible metabolic
dilemma in this country
1306
01:01:06,283 --> 01:01:08,385
is because of the food pyramid.
1307
01:01:08,385 --> 01:01:12,490
What we are advocating is
pretty much 180 degrees opposite
1308
01:01:12,490 --> 01:01:14,691
to what the food
pyramid tries to teach.
1309
01:01:16,127 --> 01:01:18,830
- We now understand
that our bodies,
1310
01:01:18,830 --> 01:01:20,832
even the bodies
of elite athletes,
1311
01:01:20,832 --> 01:01:23,368
don't need carbohydrates
to survive.
1312
01:01:23,368 --> 01:01:26,403
We can convert fat
into ketones for fuel,
1313
01:01:26,403 --> 01:01:27,939
but early nutrition scientists
1314
01:01:27,939 --> 01:01:30,809
did not understand
nutritional ketosis.
1315
01:01:30,809 --> 01:01:33,044
Scientists simply
thought that since fat
1316
01:01:33,044 --> 01:01:35,113
has nine calories per
gram, while protein
1317
01:01:35,113 --> 01:01:37,783
and carbs have only
four calories per gram,
1318
01:01:37,783 --> 01:01:39,885
we should just cut back on fat
1319
01:01:39,885 --> 01:01:42,720
to lower our calorie
consumption and lose weight.
1320
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,825
- I met with people who helped
with the initial guidelines
1321
01:01:46,825 --> 01:01:48,827
and they were well-intentioned,
1322
01:01:48,827 --> 01:01:53,798
they reasoned that because
calories lead to obesity,
1323
01:01:55,299 --> 01:01:57,903
reduce the food that has the
most calories which is fat.
1324
01:01:59,104 --> 01:02:01,106
- We've been counting
calories ever since
1325
01:02:01,106 --> 01:02:05,243
in every way imaginable,
on food labels, in menus,
1326
01:02:05,243 --> 01:02:09,848
online and in apps, and
lately even on our bodies.
1327
01:02:09,848 --> 01:02:12,716
For years we've been told
this is a simple equation.
1328
01:02:12,716 --> 01:02:15,821
If we can just balance the
number of calories we consume
1329
01:02:15,821 --> 01:02:17,722
against the number
of calories we burn,
1330
01:02:17,722 --> 01:02:19,924
the Calories In
versus Calories Out,
1331
01:02:19,924 --> 01:02:21,993
our weight will stay in balance,
1332
01:02:21,993 --> 01:02:24,328
everything on the level, right?
1333
01:02:24,328 --> 01:02:25,997
Actually, not so right.
1334
01:02:27,064 --> 01:02:29,066
- The Calories
In/Calories Out model
1335
01:02:29,066 --> 01:02:34,071
is fundamentally flawed,
because the body doesn't account
1336
01:02:34,839 --> 01:02:37,742
for the fat that way.
1337
01:02:37,742 --> 01:02:39,977
That's not how we gain fat.
1338
01:02:39,977 --> 01:02:42,814
- It's not a physics problem,
it's a biology problem,
1339
01:02:42,814 --> 01:02:44,950
it's a physiology problem.
1340
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:46,917
- The alternative
theory is called
1341
01:02:46,917 --> 01:02:50,521
the Carbohydrate-Insulin
Hypothesis of weight gain.
1342
01:02:50,521 --> 01:02:52,589
Remember how carbohydrates
raise blood sugar
1343
01:02:52,589 --> 01:02:54,024
but fat doesn't?
1344
01:02:54,024 --> 01:02:57,227
That's the key to the
insulin-carbohydrate hypothesis.
1345
01:02:57,227 --> 01:02:58,495
- It's really not that
hard to understand,
1346
01:02:58,495 --> 01:03:02,232
so if you take 100
calories of brownies
1347
01:03:02,232 --> 01:03:07,238
and 100 calories of salmon,
and you eat the two,
1348
01:03:08,638 --> 01:03:12,510
all the insulin hypothesis
says is that one food is going
1349
01:03:13,678 --> 01:03:15,546
to raise insulin a lot,
the other food is not.
1350
01:03:15,546 --> 01:03:18,316
So we know that as soon
as you put those foods
1351
01:03:18,316 --> 01:03:21,118
in your mouth, the
hormonal effect
1352
01:03:21,118 --> 01:03:25,490
of those foods is completely
and utterly different.
1353
01:03:25,490 --> 01:03:28,325
- So we really need to
pay attention to hormones,
1354
01:03:28,325 --> 01:03:31,261
at least as much if not
more, than calories.
1355
01:03:31,261 --> 01:03:33,298
So, what raises insulin?
1356
01:03:33,298 --> 01:03:36,001
Well, carbohydrates
number one with a bullet.
1357
01:03:36,001 --> 01:03:39,104
It's like in real estate,
location, location, location.
1358
01:03:39,104 --> 01:03:41,839
With insulin, it's carbohydrate,
carbohydrate, carbohydrate.
1359
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:44,075
Protein is a distant second,
1360
01:03:44,075 --> 01:03:45,642
so protein can raise
insulin as well.
1361
01:03:45,642 --> 01:03:47,979
You know what doesn't
raise it at all?
1362
01:03:47,979 --> 01:03:48,812
Fat.
1363
01:03:48,812 --> 01:03:50,080
Zero, not a drop.
1364
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,582
Doesn't move the needle.
1365
01:03:51,582 --> 01:03:55,352
So what is the irony of us
telling people to eat a diet
1366
01:03:55,352 --> 01:03:57,622
that is absent of
the one macronutrient
1367
01:03:57,622 --> 01:04:00,992
that has no effect on
the fat storage hormone?
1368
01:04:00,992 --> 01:04:03,995
It's total sheer madness.
1369
01:04:03,995 --> 01:04:07,531
- Insulin essentially
acts as a lock
1370
01:04:07,531 --> 01:04:11,102
that gets clamped down
on all of our fat stores
1371
01:04:11,102 --> 01:04:16,106
and prevents us from using
our stored fat as energy.
1372
01:04:17,408 --> 01:04:19,609
But, when we restrict
carbohydrates
1373
01:04:19,609 --> 01:04:22,513
and we can therefore bring
the insulin levels down,
1374
01:04:22,513 --> 01:04:26,684
the locks come off, and all
of sudden we have access
1375
01:04:26,684 --> 01:04:30,854
to all of our fat
stores for energy.
1376
01:04:30,854 --> 01:04:34,658
- [Dr. Mark] That's
right, insulin is a
fat storage hormone.
1377
01:04:34,658 --> 01:04:37,062
Lower insulin by cutting
out sugar and carbs
1378
01:04:37,062 --> 01:04:39,930
and the weight comes
off or never comes on
1379
01:04:39,930 --> 01:04:41,198
in the first place.
1380
01:04:41,198 --> 01:04:42,968
- We tell patients to
think of their body
1381
01:04:42,968 --> 01:04:47,472
as a bowl of sugar, so over
time, that bowl fills up.
1382
01:04:47,472 --> 01:04:50,908
If you're eating a lot of
processed foods and sugar
1383
01:04:50,908 --> 01:04:54,778
and so on, that bowl fills
up, and eventually that sugar,
1384
01:04:54,778 --> 01:04:56,680
as you add more
sugar in, spills out,
1385
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,783
and that's what
Type 2 Diabetes is.
1386
01:04:58,783 --> 01:05:00,385
Your cells can't
hold anymore sugar,
1387
01:05:00,385 --> 01:05:02,787
it simply spills
out into the blood.
1388
01:05:02,787 --> 01:05:05,323
The wrong thing to do
is to take the insulin
1389
01:05:05,323 --> 01:05:08,493
and keep cramming that
sugar back into the body,
1390
01:05:08,493 --> 01:05:12,062
the body takes it, takes
it, takes it until it rots.
1391
01:05:13,363 --> 01:05:16,033
It would be much
smarter to simply say,
1392
01:05:16,033 --> 01:05:20,037
hey, I have too much sugar,
let me just burn it all off
1393
01:05:20,037 --> 01:05:23,173
by intermittent fasting, or
not putting anymore sugar in.
1394
01:05:23,173 --> 01:05:25,575
A low-carbohydrate
diet, and guess what?
1395
01:05:25,575 --> 01:05:29,747
It works exactly as you
would expect it to work.
1396
01:05:29,747 --> 01:05:33,318
- I've been using the keto
diet for about 13 years
1397
01:05:33,318 --> 01:05:35,952
in a university
clinical practice
1398
01:05:35,952 --> 01:05:40,890
and the results in treating
diabetes are quite remarkable.
1399
01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:45,896
I've had some people get off
insulin within just a few days
1400
01:05:47,031 --> 01:05:48,399
of changing from
eating carbohydrates
1401
01:05:48,399 --> 01:05:50,535
to not eating carbohydrates.
1402
01:05:50,535 --> 01:05:53,671
I think my record that I
can recall is I took someone
1403
01:05:53,671 --> 01:05:58,309
off 180 units of insulin
a day in just two days.
1404
01:06:01,211 --> 01:06:02,912
- Well, come on in
and take a seat.
1405
01:06:02,912 --> 01:06:04,414
- Sure.
1406
01:06:04,414 --> 01:06:07,352
- If Judi were to have walked
into my office ten years ago
1407
01:06:07,352 --> 01:06:10,388
when I started, I would have
thought, I can help you.
1408
01:06:10,388 --> 01:06:14,091
You just need to eat less,
you need to exercise more,
1409
01:06:14,091 --> 01:06:16,526
we need to start measuring
your food, you can do this,
1410
01:06:16,526 --> 01:06:18,028
I believe in you.
1411
01:06:18,028 --> 01:06:19,497
And I thought that to be true.
1412
01:06:19,497 --> 01:06:21,098
Why don't you go ahead and
get your blood sugar meter out
1413
01:06:21,098 --> 01:06:22,332
for me too.
1414
01:06:22,332 --> 01:06:23,301
- Okay.
1415
01:06:23,301 --> 01:06:24,834
- Take a look at that.
1416
01:06:24,834 --> 01:06:28,205
- Over the course of the
following five years,
1417
01:06:28,205 --> 01:06:30,140
I realized it wasn't working,
1418
01:06:30,140 --> 01:06:35,146
and either no one was
following my advice
1419
01:06:36,013 --> 01:06:37,182
or I was giving terrible advice.
1420
01:06:37,182 --> 01:06:38,848
- I've been writing
down each day.
1421
01:06:38,848 --> 01:06:41,118
- Thankfully Judi didn't come
into my office 10 years ago,
1422
01:06:41,118 --> 01:06:42,819
she came into my
office this year.
1423
01:06:43,687 --> 01:06:46,256
And I was able to offer hope,
1424
01:06:46,256 --> 01:06:48,725
I was able to offer
an opportunity.
1425
01:06:48,725 --> 01:06:51,062
I knew that she
could be successful
1426
01:06:51,062 --> 01:06:53,064
and success wasn't just
measured on a scale,
1427
01:06:53,064 --> 01:06:56,767
it was measured with
blood sugar reduction,
1428
01:06:56,767 --> 01:06:59,336
insulin reduction,
anti-inflammatory markers,
1429
01:06:59,336 --> 01:07:02,906
blood pressure as
well as insulin.
1430
01:07:02,906 --> 01:07:04,075
Looks like you did
an awesome job.
1431
01:07:04,075 --> 01:07:05,609
- Yeah.
1432
01:07:05,609 --> 01:07:09,280
- And you are down 12 pounds
since our last visit, yeah.
1433
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,682
- I can report that
this is the second week
1434
01:07:11,682 --> 01:07:16,187
and I have normal blood
sugars now in the morning.
1435
01:07:16,187 --> 01:07:21,191
I'm still doing my injectables,
but it's gotten leveled.
1436
01:07:22,327 --> 01:07:24,729
It's leveled and I know
that I'm in ketosis
1437
01:07:24,729 --> 01:07:27,164
and the weight is
starting to drop off.
1438
01:07:27,164 --> 01:07:28,732
- What was the dose
you were taking
1439
01:07:28,732 --> 01:07:29,999
when you walked out of the door?
1440
01:07:29,999 --> 01:07:30,968
- It was 120 units.
1441
01:07:30,968 --> 01:07:31,801
- Okay.
1442
01:07:31,801 --> 01:07:34,071
- And now I'm doing 100.
1443
01:07:34,071 --> 01:07:36,740
- [Dr. Mark] In just two
weeks on a ketogenic diet,
1444
01:07:36,740 --> 01:07:41,745
Judi has cut her blood sugar
in half and lost 12 pounds.
1445
01:07:43,113 --> 01:07:44,814
Changing her nutrition has
done more to improve her health
1446
01:07:44,814 --> 01:07:47,218
than any medication ever did.
1447
01:07:47,218 --> 01:07:48,818
- The difference is more fat
1448
01:07:48,818 --> 01:07:51,421
and that gives a
lot more energy.
1449
01:07:51,421 --> 01:07:53,957
- It's amazing, I'm happy
I come to work again
1450
01:07:53,957 --> 01:07:56,526
and there was really a time
when I thought, I have to quit.
1451
01:07:56,526 --> 01:07:58,463
I can't do this,
this is miserable.
1452
01:07:58,463 --> 01:08:01,566
It's hopeless, diabetes
is a hopeless disease.
1453
01:08:01,566 --> 01:08:04,269
And I felt that way, I
really truly felt that way
1454
01:08:04,269 --> 01:08:06,271
and I knew that there
had to be another answer,
1455
01:08:06,271 --> 01:08:08,205
and I don't feel
that way anymore.
1456
01:08:08,205 --> 01:08:10,908
- In results from more than
50 controlled clinical trials
1457
01:08:10,908 --> 01:08:13,877
comparing high-fat and
low-fat diets for weight loss,
1458
01:08:13,877 --> 01:08:16,613
the high-fat diets
won every time.
1459
01:08:16,613 --> 01:08:19,550
The higher the fat, the
higher the weight loss.
1460
01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:22,353
That's because eating fat
speeds up your metabolism
1461
01:08:22,353 --> 01:08:24,389
and helps you burn body fat.
1462
01:08:24,389 --> 01:08:27,524
Carbs slow down your metabolism
and cause weight gain.
1463
01:08:30,795 --> 01:08:34,764
It's week two of our nutrition
experiment, this time,
1464
01:08:34,764 --> 01:08:36,800
it's the low-fat diet.
1465
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,805
- So today's breakfast
was oatmeal with raisins
1466
01:08:42,706 --> 01:08:44,875
and brown sugar.
1467
01:08:44,875 --> 01:08:45,809
(computer typing)
1468
01:08:45,809 --> 01:08:47,312
- [Dr. Mark] We're following
1469
01:08:47,312 --> 01:08:50,715
a USDA MyPlate 2000 calorie
a day meal plan downloaded
1470
01:08:50,715 --> 01:08:52,849
from a the USDA website.
1471
01:08:52,849 --> 01:08:54,551
- Do you have a leaner ham?
1472
01:08:54,551 --> 01:08:58,022
- [Dr. Mark] It calls for
low-fat meats, non-fat dairy,
1473
01:08:58,022 --> 01:09:00,957
including non-fat
sugar-sweetened chocolate milk
1474
01:09:00,957 --> 01:09:04,060
and plenty of carbohydrates,
things like lasagna,
1475
01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:06,531
bread and even pizza.
1476
01:09:06,531 --> 01:09:07,497
- This looks like
stuff you would take
1477
01:09:07,497 --> 01:09:10,367
to a college dorm, right?
1478
01:09:12,536 --> 01:09:15,973
- [Dr. Mark] This is what our
government says we should eat.
1479
01:09:15,973 --> 01:09:17,707
- We have some
shredded wheat here,
1480
01:09:19,309 --> 01:09:22,347
and then half cup
of sliced banana,
1481
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,685
and half a cup of fat
free milk, then toast
1482
01:09:30,588 --> 01:09:34,224
and one cup of chocolate
milk, fat free.
1483
01:09:34,224 --> 01:09:37,495
- [Dr. Mark] This breakfast
alone contains 150 grams
1484
01:09:37,495 --> 01:09:40,831
of carbohydrates and
50 grams of sugar.
1485
01:09:40,831 --> 01:09:44,701
- [Cynthia] Two
teaspoons of jelly.
1486
01:09:44,701 --> 01:09:47,136
- Instead of eating bacon
and eggs in the morning,
1487
01:09:47,136 --> 01:09:50,840
which keeps you full until
well past lunch for example,
1488
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,444
now you're eating a couple
of slices of bread and jam,
1489
01:09:54,444 --> 01:09:57,447
and of course, by the
time you metabolize it,
1490
01:09:57,447 --> 01:10:00,149
the sugar goes way up,
and then it goes way down.
1491
01:10:00,149 --> 01:10:02,819
At 10:30, you're looking
for a low-fat muffin.
1492
01:10:02,819 --> 01:10:07,825
- Day one of the new diet has
begun and I have to admit,
1493
01:10:07,825 --> 01:10:12,196
I'm not liking it
hungry all day.
1494
01:10:12,196 --> 01:10:14,532
- Instead of eating
three meals a day,
1495
01:10:14,532 --> 01:10:19,169
which is a standard since in
the '60s, '50s, '60s, '70s,
1496
01:10:19,169 --> 01:10:21,205
now all of a sudden,
people are getting hungry,
1497
01:10:21,205 --> 01:10:24,741
like ravenous at 10:30,
and they're saying,
1498
01:10:24,741 --> 01:10:26,576
oh, yeah, I need to
eat six times a day.
1499
01:10:26,576 --> 01:10:29,313
- Today I was hungry again
so I needed the snack,
1500
01:10:29,313 --> 01:10:32,049
and I also got really
tired after the meal.
1501
01:10:32,049 --> 01:10:35,152
- So not only are you eating
foods that stimulate a lot
1502
01:10:35,152 --> 01:10:37,287
of insulin, you're
doing it constantly,
1503
01:10:37,287 --> 01:10:40,558
six times a day versus three
times a day, and it's like,
1504
01:10:40,558 --> 01:10:42,192
well, what's gonna happen?
1505
01:10:42,192 --> 01:10:45,396
- Lunch was a ham
sandwich with some mayo,
1506
01:10:45,396 --> 01:10:50,367
some grapes, the milk
and I went off the chart,
1507
01:10:51,868 --> 01:10:54,905
I went over 200 and it just
kept going up and up and up
1508
01:10:54,905 --> 01:10:58,908
and up and up and up and up
and then it hit over 200, 206,
1509
01:10:58,908 --> 01:11:00,377
I think was it.
1510
01:11:00,377 --> 01:11:02,479
Then it started coming
down, that was crazy to me.
1511
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,081
And it was almost
a little scary.
1512
01:11:04,081 --> 01:11:05,683
- It's a recipe for diabetes,
1513
01:11:05,683 --> 01:11:09,620
how long is it gonna be before
everybody becomes diabetic?
1514
01:11:09,620 --> 01:11:12,423
Because that's the
outcome of that advice.
1515
01:11:12,423 --> 01:11:16,326
- I never got even close to
that last week, not even close.
1516
01:11:16,326 --> 01:11:19,597
So it's gonna be an
interesting week and, gosh,
1517
01:11:21,532 --> 01:11:24,335
I hope I last all
week, I'm not kidding.
1518
01:11:25,769 --> 01:11:29,773
- Hi, this is Cynthia, fifth
day on the low-fat diet.
1519
01:11:30,974 --> 01:11:33,478
It is barely 12:00
but I'm hungry
1520
01:11:33,478 --> 01:11:35,144
so I'm digging into my lunch.
1521
01:11:35,144 --> 01:11:40,149
I'm hungry again, so I will
dig into my daily snack.
1522
01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:42,286
Last week I was
barely hungry at 2:00
1523
01:11:42,286 --> 01:11:46,523
and now I am very
hungry so I will eat.
1524
01:11:46,523 --> 01:11:47,758
- I was hungry the entire time.
1525
01:11:47,758 --> 01:11:51,260
I would eat, I would
feel good for about 30,
1526
01:11:51,260 --> 01:11:56,133
40 minutes and then I would
start just feeling hungry.
1527
01:11:56,133 --> 01:11:57,734
- [Cynthia] I definitely
liked last week.
1528
01:11:57,734 --> 01:11:59,002
- [Dr. Mark] When
you compare the flat
1529
01:11:59,002 --> 01:12:01,271
and steady blood sugars
from the high-fat week
1530
01:12:01,271 --> 01:12:04,041
to the rollercoaster readings
from this low-fat week,
1531
01:12:04,041 --> 01:12:06,143
it's hard to believe that
our government thinks
1532
01:12:06,143 --> 01:12:07,745
this is good for us.
1533
01:12:07,745 --> 01:12:12,416
- USDA put together a guideline
that seems to me was really
1534
01:12:12,416 --> 01:12:15,152
to market the food
that America makes.
1535
01:12:15,152 --> 01:12:16,621
It wasn't based on health.
1536
01:12:16,621 --> 01:12:19,356
- The dietary guidelines
are not guidelines,
1537
01:12:19,356 --> 01:12:21,991
the dietary guidelines
are guidance.
1538
01:12:23,192 --> 01:12:25,028
They're guidance for the
food industry to be able
1539
01:12:25,028 --> 01:12:25,996
to sell food.
1540
01:12:27,197 --> 01:12:28,733
They have nothing
to do with health.
1541
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,536
And the fact that the USDA
is in charge of our health
1542
01:12:32,536 --> 01:12:33,838
is already a problem.
1543
01:12:35,238 --> 01:12:36,840
- The USDA when it was
founded had two mandates,
1544
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,675
not one, two.
1545
01:12:38,843 --> 01:12:42,045
Mandate number one, was
to provide information
1546
01:12:42,045 --> 01:12:44,313
to the American public
about healthy eating.
1547
01:12:45,483 --> 01:12:48,518
Mandate number two, was
to support, encourage
1548
01:12:48,518 --> 01:12:52,188
and grow the American
agricultural industry.
1549
01:12:52,188 --> 01:12:57,161
Those two mandates are
not always congruent
with one another
1550
01:12:58,394 --> 01:12:59,929
because if you were
really being honest
1551
01:12:59,929 --> 01:13:02,966
with the American people you
would say, wheat, corn, sugar
1552
01:13:02,966 --> 01:13:05,635
and soy are not health foods.
1553
01:13:05,635 --> 01:13:08,673
And if you're congruent
with the other mandate
1554
01:13:08,673 --> 01:13:11,274
of the USDA which is to
support and encourage
1555
01:13:11,274 --> 01:13:14,210
and grow American agriculture,
you ain't telling people
1556
01:13:14,210 --> 01:13:16,412
to not eat four of
the five biggest crops
1557
01:13:16,412 --> 01:13:17,747
that are made in America.
1558
01:13:17,747 --> 01:13:20,216
So that's the contradiction
1559
01:13:20,216 --> 01:13:23,853
and that's why I don't think
you're gonna see much change
1560
01:13:23,853 --> 01:13:25,856
in dietary recommendations.
1561
01:13:26,991 --> 01:13:28,593
- So Nick, tell me
about your experiences
1562
01:13:28,593 --> 01:13:29,926
these past two weeks.
1563
01:13:29,926 --> 01:13:31,595
- So it's been really,
really interesting.
1564
01:13:31,595 --> 01:13:32,796
- Yeah, so it was interesting.
1565
01:13:32,796 --> 01:13:34,631
- Well, it was
really interesting.
1566
01:13:34,631 --> 01:13:38,835
- The low-carb, high-fat,
1567
01:13:38,835 --> 01:13:41,037
I had a really good
experience with.
1568
01:13:41,037 --> 01:13:45,142
- I loved all the food,
and I found it very easy.
1569
01:13:45,142 --> 01:13:47,612
- I like the high-fat
a little better
1570
01:13:47,612 --> 01:13:49,179
because I felt more energetic.
1571
01:13:49,179 --> 01:13:54,117
- The following week on
the low-fat, high-carb,
1572
01:13:54,117 --> 01:13:55,352
I was bonking.
1573
01:13:55,352 --> 01:13:57,921
I'd just be tired,
maybe hungry is probably
1574
01:13:57,921 --> 01:13:59,456
the best word.
1575
01:13:59,456 --> 01:14:02,492
- Insulin is a big driver
of carbohydrate craving
1576
01:14:02,492 --> 01:14:03,728
and hunger.
1577
01:14:03,728 --> 01:14:06,630
That hungry feeling that
you mentioned is often
1578
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:08,733
when someone's insulin
levels are high
1579
01:14:08,733 --> 01:14:10,500
but their blood sugar is low.
1580
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,002
It's that insulin
rollercoaster we talked about
1581
01:14:13,002 --> 01:14:15,371
that you eat carbs, your
insulin levels go up.
1582
01:14:15,371 --> 01:14:19,308
- And I got foggy during
the high-carb week.
1583
01:14:19,308 --> 01:14:20,810
- A little groggy.
1584
01:14:20,810 --> 01:14:24,348
- I was even just saying
things backwards and I noticed
1585
01:14:24,348 --> 01:14:28,986
that I wasn't clicking
like I normally do.
1586
01:14:28,986 --> 01:14:30,487
- I'd love to see your
graphs at some time,
1587
01:14:30,487 --> 01:14:31,688
kind of see the whole
progression of them.
1588
01:14:31,688 --> 01:14:33,357
Do you have them with you?
1589
01:14:33,357 --> 01:14:34,991
- Yeah, sure.
1590
01:14:34,991 --> 01:14:36,292
Let me see here.
1591
01:14:36,292 --> 01:14:37,126
- [Dr. Mark] Just
look at the difference
1592
01:14:37,126 --> 01:14:38,828
between the two diets.
1593
01:14:38,828 --> 01:14:41,732
Every one of our participants
experiences similar reactions
1594
01:14:41,732 --> 01:14:44,433
to the low-carb
versus low-fat diets.
1595
01:14:44,433 --> 01:14:45,335
- Wow, what a difference
between the two weeks.
1596
01:14:45,335 --> 01:14:46,335
- Yeah, it's huge.
1597
01:14:46,335 --> 01:14:47,604
- Yeah.
1598
01:14:47,604 --> 01:14:49,939
- From the first week I
was almost a flat line.
1599
01:14:49,939 --> 01:14:51,340
I was averaging 84.
1600
01:14:51,340 --> 01:14:52,576
- [Dr. Michelle]
Much more stable.
1601
01:14:52,576 --> 01:14:54,978
- It was fascinating, it
was really interesting
1602
01:14:54,978 --> 01:14:56,446
being a part of this.
1603
01:14:56,446 --> 01:14:59,316
- I'm really excited about
this changing my life.
1604
01:14:59,316 --> 01:15:00,250
- It's cool to see.
1605
01:15:01,417 --> 01:15:04,822
- For many people,
fat is a superfood.
1606
01:15:04,822 --> 01:15:07,558
Not only does it help you
feel full and lose weight,
1607
01:15:07,558 --> 01:15:09,794
your body uses it as
the building blocks
1608
01:15:09,794 --> 01:15:13,130
for cellular membranes and
fat makes up the myelin sheath
1609
01:15:13,130 --> 01:15:16,300
that forms around our nerves
and allows electrical impulses
1610
01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:18,868
to transmit quickly
and efficiently.
1611
01:15:18,868 --> 01:15:21,537
Fat makes up more than
half of our brain tissue.
1612
01:15:21,537 --> 01:15:23,941
Human breast milk is
more than half fat,
1613
01:15:23,941 --> 01:15:26,710
much of which is saturated fat.
1614
01:15:26,710 --> 01:15:30,147
We need healthy fats
to be healthy humans.
1615
01:15:30,147 --> 01:15:32,549
Unfortunately, what
we've been told about
1616
01:15:32,549 --> 01:15:35,620
which fats are good for
us and which fats are bad
1617
01:15:35,620 --> 01:15:37,588
is dead wrong.
1618
01:15:37,588 --> 01:15:41,090
- Everybody just thinks, oh,
don't eat fat, don't eat fat,
1619
01:15:41,090 --> 01:15:42,859
and it's actually
more tragic than that,
1620
01:15:42,859 --> 01:15:44,929
the story is
actually much worse.
1621
01:15:44,929 --> 01:15:48,032
As people turned away
from saturated fats,
1622
01:15:48,032 --> 01:15:51,635
like butter and animal fats,
we were told to eat margarine.
1623
01:15:51,635 --> 01:15:56,640
* Yes I am the muffin man,
now I am the butter man *
1624
01:15:58,442 --> 01:16:01,444
- [Narrator] Imperial, only
our taste deserves the crown.
1625
01:16:01,444 --> 01:16:04,548
- It turns out, and this is
what's so tragic about it,
1626
01:16:04,548 --> 01:16:06,951
it was deadly advice.
1627
01:16:06,951 --> 01:16:09,687
- Many doctors have
recommended corn oil margarines
1628
01:16:09,687 --> 01:16:13,322
to help lower the saturated
fat in a reduced fat diet.
1629
01:16:13,322 --> 01:16:17,361
- So if you remember
margarine is vegetable oils,
1630
01:16:17,361 --> 01:16:21,231
and then they partially
hydrogenate them
to make them solid,
1631
01:16:21,231 --> 01:16:22,899
so they look like butter.
1632
01:16:22,899 --> 01:16:27,136
Partially hydrogenated fats
are actually trans-fats.
1633
01:16:27,136 --> 01:16:30,273
- It's best to replace spreads
high in saturated fats.
1634
01:16:30,273 --> 01:16:34,210
- So we went from eating
natural foods and butter
1635
01:16:34,210 --> 01:16:39,215
to trans-fats, which we
now know was super, super,
1636
01:16:40,084 --> 01:16:42,219
super deadly for heart attacks.
1637
01:16:42,219 --> 01:16:44,822
- For the family you
love, serve delicious,
1638
01:16:44,822 --> 01:16:46,622
new Mazola margarine
1639
01:16:46,622 --> 01:16:49,593
and love it's light
delicate flavor everyday.
1640
01:16:49,593 --> 01:16:53,563
- That is mind-blowing
that we told people
1641
01:16:53,563 --> 01:16:57,634
to stop eating butter, and
eat this poison instead,
1642
01:16:57,634 --> 01:17:00,838
and it would be good for
you, and we all did it.
1643
01:17:00,838 --> 01:17:04,008
- This is Mazola, 100%
corn oil margarine made
1644
01:17:04,008 --> 01:17:06,242
from 100% corn oil goodness.
1645
01:17:06,242 --> 01:17:07,510
- Well, there's really no doubt
1646
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:09,213
that the American Heart
Association endorsement
1647
01:17:09,213 --> 01:17:12,482
of vegetable oils was a great
thing for that industry.
1648
01:17:13,884 --> 01:17:14,818
- [Narrator] This
is Ralph Edwards
1649
01:17:14,818 --> 01:17:16,019
with "Truth or Consequences."
1650
01:17:16,019 --> 01:17:16,953
Congratulations on your
fine entry statement
1651
01:17:16,953 --> 01:17:17,888
of why we should all support
1652
01:17:17,888 --> 01:17:19,423
the American Heart Association.
1653
01:17:19,423 --> 01:17:21,191
- [Dr. Mark] The American
Heart Association started
1654
01:17:21,191 --> 01:17:23,861
in the 1920s as a sleepy
little organization
1655
01:17:23,861 --> 01:17:26,130
that could barely
keep its doors open.
1656
01:17:26,130 --> 01:17:28,365
But in 1948, Procter and Gamble,
1657
01:17:28,365 --> 01:17:30,599
the maker of Crisco
was shortening,
1658
01:17:30,599 --> 01:17:35,472
staged a nation-wide fundraiser
and the AHA hit the jackpot.
1659
01:17:35,472 --> 01:17:36,874
- [Narrator] To
thank Jack Benny,
1660
01:17:36,874 --> 01:17:38,075
the American Heart
Association has a million
1661
01:17:38,075 --> 01:17:39,509
and a half dollars there.
1662
01:17:39,509 --> 01:17:41,711
All right, Ralph Edwards
saying, goodnight, everybody.
1663
01:17:41,711 --> 01:17:46,716
- Overnight, millions of dollars
flowed into their coffers.
1664
01:17:47,917 --> 01:17:49,353
I mean, literally from
one week to the next,
1665
01:17:49,353 --> 01:17:51,155
they started opening up
chapters all over the country,
1666
01:17:51,155 --> 01:17:53,290
all thanks to
Procter and Gamble.
1667
01:17:53,290 --> 01:17:55,392
- [Narrator] New Crisco
oil stays blended longer,
1668
01:17:55,392 --> 01:17:56,993
makes salads taste great.
1669
01:17:56,993 --> 01:17:59,362
New Crisco oil blends
better than other oils.
1670
01:17:59,362 --> 01:18:00,930
- [Dr. Mark] The American
Heart Association
1671
01:18:00,930 --> 01:18:03,267
has endorsed vegetable
oils ever since.
1672
01:18:03,267 --> 01:18:06,303
- It's not nice to
fool mother nature.
1673
01:18:08,371 --> 01:18:12,076
- They then were able to
publish advertisements saying,
1674
01:18:12,076 --> 01:18:14,577
lowers cholesterol, take
this ad to your doctor
1675
01:18:14,577 --> 01:18:17,848
and get them to prescribe
to you vegetable oils
1676
01:18:17,848 --> 01:18:19,116
for your health.
1677
01:18:19,116 --> 01:18:20,884
- Vegetable oils are
a fascinating topic
1678
01:18:20,884 --> 01:18:24,653
because they've become
labeled as heart-healthy
1679
01:18:24,653 --> 01:18:29,593
which drives me a little crazy
because the label was granted
1680
01:18:29,593 --> 01:18:32,595
to them simply by
lowering LDL cholesterol.
1681
01:18:32,595 --> 01:18:35,933
But, the broader question
is, what else are they doing?
1682
01:18:35,933 --> 01:18:38,335
These are not real
food products,
1683
01:18:38,335 --> 01:18:40,437
these are products
made in factories.
1684
01:18:40,437 --> 01:18:43,273
These are products that
require heat and chemicals
1685
01:18:43,273 --> 01:18:46,911
and high pressure to extract
what little oil there is.
1686
01:18:46,911 --> 01:18:48,478
- [Dr. Mark] The heat
and chemicals used
1687
01:18:48,478 --> 01:18:50,781
in the manufacturing
process oxidizes
1688
01:18:50,781 --> 01:18:52,616
these delicate seed oils.
1689
01:18:52,616 --> 01:18:55,819
When you eat oxidized vegetable
oils like soy, canola,
1690
01:18:55,819 --> 01:18:59,555
corn, safflower or sunflower,
they create free radicals
1691
01:18:59,555 --> 01:19:01,991
throughout your body that
are highly inflammatory
1692
01:19:01,991 --> 01:19:04,862
and known to cause heart
disease and cancer.
1693
01:19:04,862 --> 01:19:07,197
- Why are we always trying
to eat more antioxidants?
1694
01:19:07,197 --> 01:19:09,899
To combat free radicals
like the ones found
1695
01:19:09,899 --> 01:19:11,835
in refined vegetable oils.
1696
01:19:11,835 --> 01:19:13,336
- And then they're
used by restaurants
1697
01:19:13,336 --> 01:19:16,505
in the most carcinogenic
way possible.
1698
01:19:16,505 --> 01:19:19,675
They heat them, reheat them,
cool them off, heat them again
1699
01:19:19,675 --> 01:19:21,144
and use them for a week.
1700
01:19:21,144 --> 01:19:24,680
So switching to "vegetable
oils," the seed oils,
1701
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,951
was probably a terrible
idea in the first place.
1702
01:19:27,951 --> 01:19:30,386
- [Dr. Mark] One researcher
from the University of Minnesota
1703
01:19:30,386 --> 01:19:32,456
went to a variety of
fast food restaurants
1704
01:19:32,456 --> 01:19:34,825
in her neighborhood and
purchased french fries,
1705
01:19:34,825 --> 01:19:37,862
and then took them back
to her lab for testing.
1706
01:19:37,862 --> 01:19:40,729
She found numerous
compounds of toxic aldehydes
1707
01:19:40,729 --> 01:19:41,965
in the fries.
1708
01:19:41,965 --> 01:19:44,701
Aldehydes are known to
cause gene mutation,
1709
01:19:44,701 --> 01:19:48,472
alter RNA and DNA, and
trigger massive inflammation
1710
01:19:48,472 --> 01:19:49,639
in the body.
1711
01:19:49,639 --> 01:19:51,774
- Vegetable oil is
highly toxic and anyone
1712
01:19:51,774 --> 01:19:54,678
who advises people
to eat vegetable oils
1713
01:19:54,678 --> 01:19:57,014
is also giving misinformation.
1714
01:19:57,014 --> 01:20:00,116
- I tell my clients to avoid
the industrial seed oils
1715
01:20:00,116 --> 01:20:01,384
as much as possible.
1716
01:20:02,818 --> 01:20:05,354
- [Dr. Mark] Vegetable oils
belong in the engines of cars,
1717
01:20:05,354 --> 01:20:06,656
not in your food.
1718
01:20:08,959 --> 01:20:11,527
Refined vegetable oils
are one more reason
1719
01:20:11,527 --> 01:20:14,164
you should avoid fast
food and processed foods.
1720
01:20:14,164 --> 01:20:16,032
If it comes in a
bottle or a box,
1721
01:20:16,032 --> 01:20:18,734
it probably contains
vegetable oils,
1722
01:20:18,734 --> 01:20:22,272
from crackers to cookies,
mayonnaise to salad dressings,
1723
01:20:22,272 --> 01:20:24,942
baby food and even baby formula.
1724
01:20:24,942 --> 01:20:27,176
- They're not natural,
they've been shown
1725
01:20:27,176 --> 01:20:30,113
to be pro-inflammatory
and, in some studies like
1726
01:20:30,113 --> 01:20:31,781
the Minnesota
Coronary Experiment,
1727
01:20:31,781 --> 01:20:34,984
the Sydney Diet Heart Study,
they've shown that, yes,
1728
01:20:34,984 --> 01:20:37,453
they lower LDL but they
actually do nothing
1729
01:20:37,453 --> 01:20:40,057
or they worsen
all-cause mortality.
1730
01:20:44,060 --> 01:20:46,930
(historical music)
1731
01:20:51,434 --> 01:20:54,103
- The Minnesota Coronary
Survey which took place
1732
01:20:54,103 --> 01:20:57,640
in the 1960s was the
biggest ever test
1733
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,776
of Ancel Keys' hypothesis.
1734
01:20:59,776 --> 01:21:03,447
- The Minnesota
Coronary Experiment
is a fascinating study
1735
01:21:03,447 --> 01:21:04,848
both from a science standpoint
1736
01:21:04,848 --> 01:21:07,283
and sort of a
detective standpoint.
1737
01:21:07,283 --> 01:21:11,054
- So it took place in five
Minnesota mental hospitals
1738
01:21:11,054 --> 01:21:13,057
which is a kind of experiment
you can't do anymore
1739
01:21:13,057 --> 01:21:14,424
because it's
considered unethical.
1740
01:21:14,424 --> 01:21:17,426
But, back then it
has the benefit
1741
01:21:17,426 --> 01:21:19,429
of being highly
controlled, which means
1742
01:21:19,429 --> 01:21:21,165
that you're feeding
people all their food,
1743
01:21:21,165 --> 01:21:22,732
so you know what they're eating
1744
01:21:22,732 --> 01:21:25,568
and they can't get outside
food, so they can't cheat.
1745
01:21:25,568 --> 01:21:27,836
- In the diet, they
replaced saturated fat
1746
01:21:27,836 --> 01:21:30,573
with polyunsaturated
fat, in intervention.
1747
01:21:30,573 --> 01:21:33,676
And the diet was similar
in all the other nutrients
1748
01:21:33,676 --> 01:21:35,411
that they deemed
to be important.
1749
01:21:35,411 --> 01:21:37,746
And what they found was
that with the intervention,
1750
01:21:37,746 --> 01:21:39,515
cholesterol levels went down,
1751
01:21:39,515 --> 01:21:41,218
which is what you would expect,
1752
01:21:41,218 --> 01:21:44,653
but mortality
actually trended up.
1753
01:21:44,653 --> 01:21:46,055
- Turned out that people
1754
01:21:46,055 --> 01:21:47,657
who were on the
cholesterol lowering diet
1755
01:21:47,657 --> 01:21:50,393
had more heart disease
and more deaths
1756
01:21:50,393 --> 01:21:51,827
than the people eating
the controlled diet,
1757
01:21:51,827 --> 01:21:54,363
which was the exact opposite
of what they wanted.
1758
01:21:54,363 --> 01:21:57,233
- So it did not support
the diet-heart hypothesis.
1759
01:21:57,233 --> 01:21:59,103
- But they never
published the results.
1760
01:21:59,103 --> 01:22:03,572
- If you do a very long study
going into that study thinking
1761
01:22:03,572 --> 01:22:06,210
that you know what the
end in mind is going to be
1762
01:22:06,210 --> 01:22:09,345
and then it isn't the end
in mind, I can understand
1763
01:22:09,345 --> 01:22:10,914
that you don't wanna
publish the results,
1764
01:22:10,914 --> 01:22:12,648
but it is scientific fraud.
1765
01:22:12,648 --> 01:22:15,384
- Yeah, that is
totally unacceptable
1766
01:22:15,384 --> 01:22:17,021
to not publish your
data like that.
1767
01:22:17,021 --> 01:22:21,024
- It wasn't published until
decades later that a relative
1768
01:22:21,024 --> 01:22:25,194
of the author went
digging for the results.
1769
01:22:25,194 --> 01:22:27,964
And this is the detective
part that's kind of crazy,
1770
01:22:27,964 --> 01:22:30,000
that he had to go looking
through the basements
1771
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,969
to find these data and re-crunch
the data and reanalyze it
1772
01:22:33,969 --> 01:22:36,040
and then bring it out
to publish it to say,
1773
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,509
"Hey, look, this diet higher
in omega-6 oils, lowered ldl,
1774
01:22:40,509 --> 01:22:42,545
"but it increased
cardiovascular risk
1775
01:22:42,545 --> 01:22:44,447
"and it increased mortality."
1776
01:22:44,447 --> 01:22:46,883
- When you are making
recommendations
1777
01:22:46,883 --> 01:22:50,786
that are not evidence-based,
and evidence comes out
1778
01:22:50,786 --> 01:22:55,192
that's contrary to those
recommendations, wait a minute,
1779
01:22:55,192 --> 01:22:57,027
that's a problem, right?
1780
01:22:57,027 --> 01:23:01,130
And so what has been the
standard approach to dealing
1781
01:23:01,130 --> 01:23:05,669
with that situation, which
has come up a number of times?
1782
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:07,804
Bury the new evidence.
1783
01:23:07,804 --> 01:23:09,639
And that's exactly
what's happened,
1784
01:23:09,639 --> 01:23:11,407
and the Minnesota Coronary Study
1785
01:23:11,407 --> 01:23:13,809
is a perfect example of this.
1786
01:23:13,809 --> 01:23:15,411
- The heart foundation
didn't come out and say,
1787
01:23:15,411 --> 01:23:16,813
sorry, we're wrong.
1788
01:23:16,813 --> 01:23:18,081
They just ignored it
as if it didn't happen
1789
01:23:18,081 --> 01:23:20,849
and they continued to
promote vegetable oils
1790
01:23:20,849 --> 01:23:22,652
and poly-unsaturated fats.
1791
01:23:22,652 --> 01:23:24,153
- If that had been published,
1792
01:23:24,153 --> 01:23:26,990
almost certainly what we eat
today would be different.
1793
01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:28,892
- This is a reason for everyone
1794
01:23:28,892 --> 01:23:31,728
to be outraged beyond concern.
1795
01:23:33,563 --> 01:23:34,964
- Controlled
clinical trials like
1796
01:23:34,964 --> 01:23:37,366
the Minnesota Coronary
survey are considered
1797
01:23:37,366 --> 01:23:40,170
the gold standard of research,
the type of experiment
1798
01:23:40,170 --> 01:23:42,539
where you can control
every bite of food
1799
01:23:42,539 --> 01:23:45,442
and change just one thing,
like swapping butter
1800
01:23:45,442 --> 01:23:49,978
for margarine to find out if
it has an affect on our health.
1801
01:23:49,978 --> 01:23:52,648
But trials like
these are expensive
1802
01:23:52,648 --> 01:23:55,551
and some even
considered unethical.
1803
01:23:55,551 --> 01:23:58,888
Cheaper, observational
trials are far more common.
1804
01:23:58,888 --> 01:23:59,956
- [Interviewer] How many
times have you had oatmeal
1805
01:23:59,956 --> 01:24:00,790
in the last year?
1806
01:24:02,591 --> 01:24:04,428
- I have no clue.
1807
01:24:04,428 --> 01:24:05,761
- Oh my gosh.
1808
01:24:08,497 --> 01:24:10,334
(interviewee laughs)
1809
01:24:10,334 --> 01:24:12,035
- [Dr. Mark] Observational
trials often rely
1810
01:24:12,035 --> 01:24:13,870
on food frequency questionnaires
1811
01:24:13,870 --> 01:24:16,606
that rely on people's memories
1812
01:24:16,606 --> 01:24:19,475
and people's memories
aren't that great.
1813
01:24:19,475 --> 01:24:21,310
- [Interviewer] How many times
have you had orange juice
1814
01:24:21,310 --> 01:24:22,211
in the last year?
1815
01:24:23,813 --> 01:24:25,215
- I wouldn't know a number.
1816
01:24:25,215 --> 01:24:26,215
- Last year?
1817
01:24:29,252 --> 01:24:33,055
- I'm gonna say...
1818
01:24:33,055 --> 01:24:37,727
- If I was to put a number
on it, upwards of 20.
1819
01:24:37,727 --> 01:24:39,129
- [Interviewer] In the
last year, 20 times?
1820
01:24:39,129 --> 01:24:40,729
- Oh yeah, yes.
1821
01:24:40,729 --> 01:24:41,930
- [Interviewer] So you
think you've had it only
1822
01:24:41,930 --> 01:24:43,666
about two times a month?
1823
01:24:43,666 --> 01:24:45,602
- Oh, darn, yeah you're right.
1824
01:24:45,602 --> 01:24:48,004
- I have no idea
how many ounces.
1825
01:24:48,004 --> 01:24:49,805
- Well, if I had to break
it up into ounces, you know.
1826
01:24:49,805 --> 01:24:51,474
- Probably about
the same as you,
1827
01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:53,742
I don't know how many ounces.
1828
01:24:53,742 --> 01:24:54,943
- See what I mean?
1829
01:24:54,943 --> 01:24:58,046
Observational trials
generate unreliable data
1830
01:24:58,046 --> 01:25:00,750
and are the reason why
nutrition recommendations
1831
01:25:00,750 --> 01:25:03,487
constantly flip and flop.
1832
01:25:03,487 --> 01:25:06,490
Setting nutritional food
policy based on unreliable data
1833
01:25:06,490 --> 01:25:11,228
is largely what got us
into this big fat mess.
1834
01:25:11,228 --> 01:25:13,263
- [Interviewer] How hard do
you think it is to remember
1835
01:25:13,263 --> 01:25:14,231
what you ate?
1836
01:25:15,631 --> 01:25:20,203
- Impossible, unless you
have some ridiculous ability
1837
01:25:21,338 --> 01:25:22,639
to remember everything
which nobody does,
1838
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:24,573
nobody remembers
things accurately.
1839
01:25:29,612 --> 01:25:32,482
- [Dr. Mark] No one person
may represent the antithesis
1840
01:25:32,482 --> 01:25:35,919
of the low-fat diet
better than Dave Asprey.
1841
01:25:37,386 --> 01:25:41,023
His company, Bulletproof,
has made a morning ritual out
1842
01:25:41,023 --> 01:25:44,493
of adding spoonfuls
of fat to coffee.
1843
01:25:44,493 --> 01:25:47,264
- [Dave Asprey] You take
from teaspoon to a tablespoon
1844
01:25:47,264 --> 01:25:49,198
of grass-fed butter.
1845
01:25:49,198 --> 01:25:51,234
- [Dr. Mark] Add to that
a few more tablespoons
1846
01:25:51,234 --> 01:25:53,536
of purified coconut oil.
1847
01:25:53,536 --> 01:25:58,107
- And then, add your brewed
black coffee and you blend it.
1848
01:26:02,946 --> 01:26:05,881
(blender whirring)
1849
01:26:09,518 --> 01:26:12,688
You can see, it looks an
awful lot like a latte.
1850
01:26:12,688 --> 01:26:15,259
You drink this, you're just
not hungry for hours and hours,
1851
01:26:15,259 --> 01:26:17,727
and you're energized in a
way that you'll never get
1852
01:26:17,727 --> 01:26:19,194
from a piece of toast.
1853
01:26:19,194 --> 01:26:21,764
- [Dr. Mark] It was through his
own discovery of a high-fat,
1854
01:26:21,764 --> 01:26:26,201
low-carb diet that Dave Asprey
lost more than 100 pounds
1855
01:26:26,201 --> 01:26:29,037
and he's kept it
off for 10 years.
1856
01:26:29,037 --> 01:26:32,408
- In 2004, after I lost a
bunch of the weight I wanted
1857
01:26:32,408 --> 01:26:35,278
to lose, I decided to go to
Tibet to learn meditation
1858
01:26:35,278 --> 01:26:36,845
from the masters.
1859
01:26:36,845 --> 01:26:41,384
And, at 18000 feet elevation
in a very remote part of Tibet,
1860
01:26:41,384 --> 01:26:44,254
10 degrees below zero,
30 mile an hour winds,
1861
01:26:44,254 --> 01:26:46,389
and I'm feeling kind of
wrecked, 'cause there's no air
1862
01:26:46,389 --> 01:26:47,590
and it's cold.
1863
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:49,492
And this little Tibetan
woman gave me a bowl
1864
01:26:49,492 --> 01:26:52,528
of yak butter tea, which is
yak butter, mixed with tea,
1865
01:26:52,528 --> 01:26:53,996
and a pinch of salt.
1866
01:26:53,996 --> 01:26:55,264
All right, fine, I'm hungry.
1867
01:26:55,264 --> 01:26:57,834
I drank it, didn't taste
great, didn't taste bad.
1868
01:26:57,834 --> 01:27:01,271
About a minute later,
I feel really good.
1869
01:27:01,271 --> 01:27:03,540
In fact, I haven't
felt this good in days.
1870
01:27:03,540 --> 01:27:05,041
What is happening?
1871
01:27:05,041 --> 01:27:06,309
And I wrote a little note in
my journal, how could this be?
1872
01:27:06,309 --> 01:27:08,111
And that day, I had
another 20 cups of it,
1873
01:27:08,111 --> 01:27:10,479
and I just felt like
I got my life back.
1874
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,014
- [Dr. Mark] Dave came
back to the states
1875
01:27:12,014 --> 01:27:15,852
and adapted his yak butter
tea experience to coffee.
1876
01:27:15,852 --> 01:27:18,153
Bulletproof is now a
multi-million dollar company
1877
01:27:18,153 --> 01:27:21,157
which Dave operates alongside
his small organic farm
1878
01:27:21,157 --> 01:27:24,393
where he grows grass-fed
sheep and pigs.
1879
01:27:24,393 --> 01:27:25,461
- Hey, guys.
1880
01:27:25,461 --> 01:27:26,295
Hey, Riley.
1881
01:27:27,464 --> 01:27:28,764
- [Dr. Mark] Dave
believes the quality
1882
01:27:28,764 --> 01:27:31,134
of the fats you
consume is critical.
1883
01:27:31,134 --> 01:27:33,135
- If you're not sure whether
fats are good or bad,
1884
01:27:33,135 --> 01:27:35,639
it's okay 'cause some fats are
bad, and some fats are good.
1885
01:27:35,639 --> 01:27:37,206
No wonder it's confusing.
1886
01:27:37,206 --> 01:27:42,210
Short version: grass-fed
butter, egg yolks, coconut oil,
1887
01:27:43,347 --> 01:27:46,950
avocados, olive oil,
those are the good fats.
1888
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:49,018
- [Dr. Mark] While there is
much debate over the role played
1889
01:27:49,018 --> 01:27:51,521
by animal agriculture
in climate change,
1890
01:27:51,521 --> 01:27:54,390
raising grass-fed animals
on organic pastures
1891
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:57,693
like Dave's actually
helps capture carbon
1892
01:27:57,693 --> 01:28:00,796
and can be a sustainable
piece of the climate solution.
1893
01:28:00,796 --> 01:28:02,965
- And the meat you eat
must be higher quality
1894
01:28:02,965 --> 01:28:04,867
and guess what high
quality animals make?
1895
01:28:04,867 --> 01:28:06,134
High quality poop.
1896
01:28:06,134 --> 01:28:07,303
Guess what high
quality poop makes?
1897
01:28:07,303 --> 01:28:08,804
High quality vegetables.
1898
01:28:08,804 --> 01:28:11,174
The vegetables you're eating
that don't come from farms
1899
01:28:11,174 --> 01:28:14,076
that look like this are
vegetables devoid of nutrients.
1900
01:28:14,076 --> 01:28:16,979
And if we allow that
to continue, there
will be no topsoil.
1901
01:28:16,979 --> 01:28:19,582
This is how you make topsoil.
1902
01:28:19,582 --> 01:28:21,149
And the Tibetans figured
out a long time ago,
1903
01:28:21,149 --> 01:28:23,118
saturated fat helps your brain.
1904
01:28:23,118 --> 01:28:24,920
They were using it for
meditation, they were using it
1905
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,090
to help their metabolism
work in very harsh conditions
1906
01:28:28,090 --> 01:28:29,425
that are high stress.
1907
01:28:29,425 --> 01:28:31,495
So it's time to throw
away the seed oils,
1908
01:28:31,495 --> 01:28:33,729
they are not fit for
human consumption.
1909
01:28:33,729 --> 01:28:36,800
If you're eating bad fats,
it's going to kill you.
1910
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,734
And this is where the
American Heart Association,
1911
01:28:38,734 --> 01:28:41,304
and the American Diabetes
Association just got it wrong.
1912
01:28:41,304 --> 01:28:42,772
They told you to eat bad fats
1913
01:28:42,772 --> 01:28:44,273
because of industrial interests,
1914
01:28:44,273 --> 01:28:46,742
and it's time that
we change that.
1915
01:28:46,742 --> 01:28:49,446
The science is very, very clear.
1916
01:28:49,446 --> 01:28:52,816
- So how much weight
have you lost totally?
1917
01:28:52,816 --> 01:28:53,750
- I believe 30 pounds.
1918
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:55,250
- That's great.
1919
01:28:55,250 --> 01:28:57,920
- Yeah, and my goal was 50
so I think it's very doable.
1920
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,223
- And you're down
another five pounds.
1921
01:29:00,223 --> 01:29:01,023
- I am?
1922
01:29:01,023 --> 01:29:01,858
- Yeah.
1923
01:29:03,192 --> 01:29:05,094
- [Dr. Mark] In two months,
Judi has lost weight
1924
01:29:05,094 --> 01:29:09,165
and cut her insulin
medications by 60%.
1925
01:29:09,165 --> 01:29:11,200
- I think you have to
look inside yourself
1926
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,871
and just determine that
nobody is gonna take care
1927
01:29:15,871 --> 01:29:18,041
of you the way that you can.
1928
01:29:18,041 --> 01:29:21,911
I don't feel like
anyone could go wrong
1929
01:29:21,911 --> 01:29:24,714
with making an attempt at this
but you can not attempt it
1930
01:29:24,714 --> 01:29:25,982
for a week.
1931
01:29:25,982 --> 01:29:28,785
You have to set your
mind and set yourself
1932
01:29:28,785 --> 01:29:33,188
to it for a period of time.
1933
01:29:33,188 --> 01:29:36,192
- [Dr. Mark] Judi is inspired
by thousands of other patients
1934
01:29:36,192 --> 01:29:38,294
who have reversed
their Type 2 Diabetes,
1935
01:29:38,294 --> 01:29:41,197
getting off all medications
with a high-fat,
1936
01:29:41,197 --> 01:29:42,765
low-carb nutrition plan.
1937
01:29:42,765 --> 01:29:47,170
- We reversed my Type 2
Diabetes, after one month.
1938
01:29:47,170 --> 01:29:50,406
I couldn't be prouder, no more
insulin injections for me,
1939
01:29:50,406 --> 01:29:52,576
and no more metformin,
and even statins.
1940
01:29:52,576 --> 01:29:56,679
- I completely reversed
my Type 2 Diabetes
1941
01:29:56,679 --> 01:30:00,683
in just three months and
before I changed my diet,
1942
01:30:00,683 --> 01:30:02,719
I weighed 212 pounds.
1943
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:07,557
Now I weigh 165 pounds and
I take zero medications.
1944
01:30:07,557 --> 01:30:11,495
- Before I started, I
weighed about 265 pounds.
1945
01:30:11,495 --> 01:30:13,729
I now weigh 130 pounds.
1946
01:30:13,729 --> 01:30:18,000
Now I can enjoy my family,
I can do everything
1947
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,169
that you should
do to live a life.
1948
01:30:20,169 --> 01:30:22,805
It's just been a total change.
1949
01:30:22,805 --> 01:30:27,810
- I have seen so many individual
transformative patients,
1950
01:30:29,377 --> 01:30:34,050
what an honor that is to share
that journey with a patient.
1951
01:30:34,050 --> 01:30:38,353
- I feel like if a
person just is determined
1952
01:30:38,353 --> 01:30:42,457
and sets their goals that there
isn't anything you can't do.
1953
01:30:42,457 --> 01:30:44,527
You just have to decide
that feeling good
1954
01:30:44,527 --> 01:30:47,196
and being healthy is
more important than
the things you used
1955
01:30:47,196 --> 01:30:48,631
to like to eat.
1956
01:30:48,631 --> 01:30:51,067
It isn't very long
before your tastes change
1957
01:30:51,067 --> 01:30:52,234
and you really like it.
1958
01:30:56,205 --> 01:30:58,307
- When I first started
exploring low-carb,
1959
01:30:58,307 --> 01:31:01,477
I tried to keep it very
quiet because it had been
1960
01:31:01,477 --> 01:31:04,714
and maybe still is a very
controversial subject.
1961
01:31:04,714 --> 01:31:07,683
In other countries, dietitians
were losing their licensure
1962
01:31:07,683 --> 01:31:11,319
over practicing low-carb, let
alone medical doctors as well.
1963
01:31:11,319 --> 01:31:14,624
- Professor Noakes, on a charge
of unprofessional conduct,
1964
01:31:14,624 --> 01:31:18,527
the majority of this
committee find you not guilty.
1965
01:31:18,527 --> 01:31:20,796
(audience applausing)
1966
01:31:20,796 --> 01:31:23,532
- [Dr. Mark] The controversy
over low-carb may be slowly,
1967
01:31:23,532 --> 01:31:25,000
quietly, changing.
1968
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,271
In the long, drawn out
case of Doctor Tim Noakes,
1969
01:31:28,271 --> 01:31:30,974
the final ruling
found in his favor.
1970
01:31:30,974 --> 01:31:33,241
- So as far as we're
concerned, we made the point
1971
01:31:33,241 --> 01:31:35,310
that this diet is safe.
1972
01:31:35,310 --> 01:31:37,045
That's all we really
set out to do.
1973
01:31:38,481 --> 01:31:41,517
- The low-carb, ketogenic diet
is a low inflammation diet.
1974
01:31:41,517 --> 01:31:43,152
- [Dr. Mark] More and
more brave practitioners
1975
01:31:43,152 --> 01:31:45,420
are going against the
dietary guidelines
1976
01:31:45,420 --> 01:31:47,657
to help their patients
find better health,
1977
01:31:47,657 --> 01:31:49,125
like Brian Lenzkes,
1978
01:31:49,125 --> 01:31:52,595
who also teaches low-carb
nutrition classes at his church.
1979
01:31:52,595 --> 01:31:57,500
So far, Brian's congregation
has lost more than 2000 pounds.
1980
01:31:57,500 --> 01:32:01,036
- Our results are in
purple here, low-carb.
1981
01:32:01,036 --> 01:32:02,537
- [Dr. Mark] The
two year findings
1982
01:32:02,537 --> 01:32:05,308
from Sarah Hallberg's clinical
trial show that a low-carb,
1983
01:32:05,308 --> 01:32:07,611
high-fat diet is
equally as effective
1984
01:32:07,611 --> 01:32:11,414
as bariatric surgery in
reversing Type 2 Diabetes.
1985
01:32:11,414 --> 01:32:14,082
- So your assessment
of the vilification
1986
01:32:14,082 --> 01:32:17,353
of saturated fat after your
experience in this trial?
1987
01:32:17,353 --> 01:32:18,888
- Well, I'll tell you,
1988
01:32:18,888 --> 01:32:21,925
what we say is that we do
not restrict saturated fat
1989
01:32:21,925 --> 01:32:23,992
in these patients,
and yet they're having
1990
01:32:23,992 --> 01:32:27,196
these remarkable results.
1991
01:32:27,196 --> 01:32:28,631
- [Dr. Mark] In April of 2019,
1992
01:32:28,631 --> 01:32:31,734
the American Diabetes
Association issued an update
1993
01:32:31,734 --> 01:32:36,072
to its longstanding position
that diets lower than 130 grams
1994
01:32:36,072 --> 01:32:38,942
of carbs a day are unsafe.
1995
01:32:38,942 --> 01:32:42,545
- I was thrilled, it felt
like Christmas morning to me.
1996
01:32:42,545 --> 01:32:44,714
It was the very
first time in writing
1997
01:32:44,714 --> 01:32:46,448
from a huge
organization that said
1998
01:32:46,448 --> 01:32:48,483
what I was doing was okay.
1999
01:32:48,483 --> 01:32:50,687
What I was doing was an approach
2000
01:32:50,687 --> 01:32:53,156
that was helping my patients.
2001
01:32:53,156 --> 01:32:56,125
And while it was something
that I have known for years,
2002
01:32:56,125 --> 01:32:58,126
it was the first
time I felt safe.
2003
01:32:58,126 --> 01:32:59,896
It was the first
time I felt safe
2004
01:32:59,896 --> 01:33:02,197
to give these recommendations.
2005
01:33:02,197 --> 01:33:05,100
- [Dr. Mark] In 2015,
after more than 50 years
2006
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:07,903
of condemning foods like
eggs, lobster and shrimp,
2007
01:33:07,903 --> 01:33:11,307
the American Heart
Association quietly dropped
2008
01:33:11,307 --> 01:33:13,276
their longstanding
recommendation
2009
01:33:13,276 --> 01:33:15,210
against dietary cholesterol,
2010
01:33:15,210 --> 01:33:19,081
saying it's no longer
a nutrient of concern.
2011
01:33:19,081 --> 01:33:22,151
That same year, the U.S.
Dietary Guidelines Committee
2012
01:33:22,151 --> 01:33:25,722
removed the cap on
dietary fat consumption,
2013
01:33:25,722 --> 01:33:28,758
admitting there's no evidence
that eating fat is bad
2014
01:33:28,758 --> 01:33:33,328
for health, but the cap
on saturated fat remains.
2015
01:33:33,328 --> 01:33:35,932
- The hypothesis that
saturated fats are bad
2016
01:33:35,932 --> 01:33:38,768
for health has been the
most tested hypothesis
2017
01:33:38,768 --> 01:33:40,870
in the history of
nutrition science.
2018
01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:43,371
There has been no hypothesis
that has been more tested.
2019
01:33:43,371 --> 01:33:47,542
Some 75,000 people, 65,000
somewhere in that range,
2020
01:33:47,542 --> 01:33:49,377
depending on which
studies you include,
2021
01:33:49,377 --> 01:33:51,313
and none of them could show
2022
01:33:51,313 --> 01:33:54,050
that saturated fats
had any effect on total
2023
01:33:54,050 --> 01:33:55,684
or cardiovascular mortality.
2024
01:33:57,553 --> 01:33:59,723
There's no evidence for it.
2025
01:33:59,723 --> 01:34:01,825
- [Dr. Mark] Even so, the
American Heart Association,
2026
01:34:01,825 --> 01:34:05,094
who takes much of its funding
from Big Food and Big Pharma,
2027
01:34:05,094 --> 01:34:08,397
continues to stand behind
its long-held position
2028
01:34:08,397 --> 01:34:11,166
that saturated fats are
the cause of heart disease
2029
01:34:11,166 --> 01:34:14,603
and that refined vegetable
oils are heart-healthy.
2030
01:34:14,603 --> 01:34:18,441
- But there is so much
politics and so much money,
2031
01:34:18,441 --> 01:34:23,011
and Big Pharma and the
sugar industry behind trying
2032
01:34:24,447 --> 01:34:28,283
to keep those guidelines
as they are right now.
2033
01:34:28,283 --> 01:34:32,354
I feel like eventually
they will change, but when?
2034
01:34:32,354 --> 01:34:33,923
It could be 50 years.
2035
01:34:33,923 --> 01:34:35,457
We can't wait 50 years.
2036
01:34:35,457 --> 01:34:40,463
Millions of people have died
already because of this mess.
2037
01:34:41,930 --> 01:34:43,265
- [Dr. Mark] Doug Reynolds
isn't waiting any longer.
2038
01:34:43,265 --> 01:34:45,801
His company, LowCarbUSA
is partnering
2039
01:34:45,801 --> 01:34:48,603
with dozens of physicians,
nutritionists and dieticians
2040
01:34:48,603 --> 01:34:51,073
to create a set of global,
clinical guidelines
2041
01:34:51,073 --> 01:34:53,276
that teach medical
professionals how to safely
2042
01:34:53,276 --> 01:34:56,545
and effectively practice
low-carb nutrition.
2043
01:34:56,545 --> 01:34:58,714
- Now it gives a lot
of them confidence
2044
01:34:58,714 --> 01:35:01,550
to maybe start implementing
it in their practice,
2045
01:35:01,550 --> 01:35:05,121
where before, they weren't
quite sure how to do it
2046
01:35:05,121 --> 01:35:08,590
or they were afraid that other
doctors weren't doing it.
2047
01:35:08,590 --> 01:35:10,692
Now, they're actually
following some kind
2048
01:35:10,692 --> 01:35:12,094
of set of guidelines.
2049
01:35:12,094 --> 01:35:14,197
- And what about the
official dietary guidelines
2050
01:35:14,197 --> 01:35:15,497
for Americans?
2051
01:35:15,497 --> 01:35:17,500
The three main eating
patterns recommended
2052
01:35:17,500 --> 01:35:20,736
by the USDA all
feature more than 50%
2053
01:35:20,736 --> 01:35:24,006
of daily calories
as carbohydrates.
2054
01:35:24,006 --> 01:35:26,809
According to the dietary
guidelines, low carbohydrate,
2055
01:35:26,809 --> 01:35:30,278
high-fat diets are
still, not an option.
2056
01:35:32,115 --> 01:35:35,584
In 2017, the National Academy
of Sciences and Medicine
2057
01:35:35,584 --> 01:35:38,621
performed the first ever
outside scientific review
2058
01:35:38,621 --> 01:35:41,090
of the U.S. Dietary
Guidelines and found
2059
01:35:41,090 --> 01:35:45,361
that the process
lacked transparency
and scientific rigor.
2060
01:35:45,361 --> 01:35:47,863
Recommending a single
dietary pattern
2061
01:35:47,863 --> 01:35:51,567
to an entire population
was a huge mistake.
2062
01:35:51,567 --> 01:35:56,205
Not only did the low-fat
diet not work, it did us harm
2063
01:35:56,205 --> 01:36:00,076
and resulted in greater
obesity and disease.
2064
01:36:00,076 --> 01:36:04,580
The lesson of the low-fat diet
may be that nutrition science
2065
01:36:04,580 --> 01:36:07,884
is deeply flawed and our
nation's dietary guidelines
2066
01:36:07,884 --> 01:36:10,752
have been heavily influenced
by the food industry
2067
01:36:10,752 --> 01:36:13,389
and the enormous amount
of money at stake.
2068
01:36:13,389 --> 01:36:14,858
- What we are living now is just
2069
01:36:14,858 --> 01:36:17,093
so completely unsustainable.
2070
01:36:17,093 --> 01:36:18,727
These unsustainable
rates of obesity
2071
01:36:18,727 --> 01:36:21,296
and diabetes were
bankrupting our nation,
2072
01:36:21,296 --> 01:36:25,334
it's destroying people's lives,
it's destroying our country,
2073
01:36:25,334 --> 01:36:27,635
and it has to stop.
2074
01:36:27,635 --> 01:36:29,272
- We are not
treating the disease,
2075
01:36:29,272 --> 01:36:31,907
we're treating the
symptoms of the disease.
2076
01:36:31,907 --> 01:36:34,176
And so it should be of
no surprise to anyone
2077
01:36:34,176 --> 01:36:37,179
that we're not getting
better and we're not going
2078
01:36:37,179 --> 01:36:41,850
to get better until we recognize
what the real problem is.
2079
01:36:41,850 --> 01:36:45,321
If we changed the food, we
could solve this problem.
2080
01:36:45,321 --> 01:36:48,191
- [Tracy] We get so many mixed
messages about diet and--
2081
01:36:48,191 --> 01:36:50,725
- Does the government have
a role in telling people
2082
01:36:50,725 --> 01:36:52,194
how to eat?
2083
01:36:52,194 --> 01:36:53,696
- [Tracy] We kinda have to
find what really works for us
2084
01:36:53,696 --> 01:36:55,430
but we still need
to know the truth.
2085
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:57,901
- It's a fascinating
question that has a lot
2086
01:36:57,901 --> 01:37:02,670
of different opinions and
certainly, the past 30, 40 years
2087
01:37:02,670 --> 01:37:05,273
of experience would say,
no, they probably shouldn't
2088
01:37:05,273 --> 01:37:06,541
be in that role.
2089
01:37:06,541 --> 01:37:08,777
- The people at the top
are not going to change,
2090
01:37:08,777 --> 01:37:11,514
so we have to get this going
as a bottom up revolution
2091
01:37:11,514 --> 01:37:14,782
and get more and more people
on board until they're shamed
2092
01:37:14,782 --> 01:37:17,786
into changing the
guidelines because the swell
2093
01:37:17,786 --> 01:37:20,656
of the population is
just ignoring them.
2094
01:37:20,656 --> 01:37:23,526
- The change is coming
from the people,
2095
01:37:23,526 --> 01:37:25,193
because they've changed.
2096
01:37:25,193 --> 01:37:27,496
They're forcing the
doctors to change,
2097
01:37:27,496 --> 01:37:29,764
if we can change the
medical profession,
2098
01:37:29,764 --> 01:37:31,901
I think we'll do something.
2099
01:37:31,901 --> 01:37:35,004
- If you're pre-diabetic
or Type 2 Diabetic,
2100
01:37:35,004 --> 01:37:39,308
there is a way out, a path
forward to health and vitality,
2101
01:37:39,308 --> 01:37:41,844
to fewer drugs and more energy.
2102
01:37:41,844 --> 01:37:43,947
You can get your life
back and all you have
2103
01:37:43,947 --> 01:37:46,749
to do is eat real food.
2104
01:37:46,749 --> 01:37:49,117
- If somebody has
Type 2 Diabetes,
2105
01:37:49,117 --> 01:37:52,755
they can go online right now,
they can watch your movie,
2106
01:37:52,755 --> 01:37:56,058
they can read up on
something, they can buy a book
2107
01:37:56,058 --> 01:37:59,428
and start reversing
their disease today.
2108
01:38:00,595 --> 01:38:03,366
- What I see on a
day-to-day basis
2109
01:38:03,366 --> 01:38:07,036
with my individual patients
as well as my own family
2110
01:38:07,036 --> 01:38:11,139
and my own friends, I
think it's missed in some
2111
01:38:11,139 --> 01:38:14,277
of this research, and
what that is is freedom.
2112
01:38:16,711 --> 01:38:19,115
It's freedom from being hungry.
2113
01:38:20,483 --> 01:38:22,750
It's freedom from cravings.
2114
01:38:22,750 --> 01:38:24,386
It's freedom from headaches.
2115
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,424
It's freedom from
reactive hypoglycemia.
2116
01:38:28,424 --> 01:38:30,492
It's freedom from mood swings.
2117
01:38:30,492 --> 01:38:32,594
It's better quality of sleep.
2118
01:38:34,296 --> 01:38:36,064
It's better quality of life.
2119
01:38:37,532 --> 01:38:41,370
- I feel great, I
feel really good.
2120
01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:42,237
Hi, girls.
2121
01:38:51,447 --> 01:38:53,948
(piano music)
2122
01:39:25,247 --> 01:39:27,816
(upbeat music)
2123
01:40:16,898 --> 01:40:19,468
(violin music)
2124
01:41:02,678 --> 01:41:05,113
(cool music)
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