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This programme
contains some strong language
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The time in Mexico, 2am. In Britain,
it's 9am. Good morning to you.
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Tommie Smith and John Carlos, the
two great American Negro sprinters
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give the black power salute
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as they receive their medals
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after the 200m final.
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On 16th October 1968, Tommie Smith
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and John Carlos's controversial
demonstration stunned the world.
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Yet it wasn't the only black
protest on the victory rostrum.
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And nor was it spontaneous.
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Tommie and John putting
their fist in the air
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was something that Americans really
connected to because everyone was in
some type of dissent to something.
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But I have to say
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that it is one of those symbols
that will be with me all of my life.
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It is one of the most definitive
expressions of manhood,
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of service.
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The world in which we live...
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cries out for heroes.
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We need heroes now
as much as we ever did.
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I hope that if the occasion ever
arose, that I could show even a...
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fraction of the kind of courage
that those guys showed.
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This is the untold story
of the people and the organisation
behind the stands
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and of the man
who tried to stop them.
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They should support
the Olympic Movement.
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Tommie Smith and John Carlos
were members of a political group,
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which started at San Jose State
College, in the fall of 1967.
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The college was a magnet
for black activism.
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We saw the kinds of conditions
in this community
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that helped to radicalise us
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and there was the attraction
of Harry Edwards.
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Like most black San Jose State
students, Harry Edwards and Ken Noel
enrolled on sports scholarships.
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They arrived angry at
the second-class education
accorded to blacks like them.
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I brought with me a lot of
the distrust
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of institutions that had
really been inculcated
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during the three years that I spent
at East St Louis senior high school
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so when I saw any degree of racism
discrimination, a flag went up
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and I automatically began to
raise questions and raise issues.
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In my freshman year
I remember asking
the head basketball coach
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how can these guys be on this team
with me and belong to a fraternities
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which have clauses in their charters
saying "no Negroes need apply".
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And his response was, "You know,
I never needed a fraternity."
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and I said,
"That's not what I asked you.".
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Harry would influence and inspire
Tommie
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and fellow country boy,
Lee Evans,
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who grew up in California's
fertile farming belt.
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I did farm labour work
till I was 17 years old,
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10, 12 hours a day.
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I am sure that I saw Lee Evans
when I was a kid
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in a cotton field.
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We weeded cotton, we picked grapes,
grapes that they make raisins out of.
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That's why I said running was easy.
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Cos I had been on my feet
for 10, 12 hours.
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Sharecropping reinforced
the second-class citizenship
felt by Tommie and Lee.
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the seeds of revolt.
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Coming from the fields,
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I was subjected to being
morbidly thought of as less than.
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I didn't like how my parents sorta
cowered down to white people.
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Cos they were the boss.
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As I grew,
I began to see the world
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as a boiling point of differences.
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Tommie enrolled at San Jose State
on a basketball scholarship
in the fall of 1963.
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A year later, Lee came to run in the
track team, just as Harry graduated
and left to pursue a PhD.
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Tommie also decided
to focus on track,
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if the team's world-renowned coach
would have him.
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I went to Bud Winter and he turned
red, and I could almost see little
things in his head. Flipping around.
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100, 200, 400, relay, long jump,
high jump, I could do all of them.
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He took me out on the track
and it's history from there on.
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Tommie and Lee
provided the foundation
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for what would soon become
the world famous Speed City team.
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I knew that he had very
successful sprinters
plus he was recruiting me too.
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You know, they sent me letters and
he sent Tommie to talk to me.
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Well, Bud Winter
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had always been, from anybody
who was around the scene,
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the number one sprint coach
in the world.
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But it was not until Tommie came
and then the sprinters began
to come afterwards
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that the Speed City
aspect developed.
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There was a sort of avalanche of
the top sprinters in the country,
in the world, there.
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Smith begins to pour it on,
he literally flies toward the tape
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winning in near-record time,
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just three tenths of a second
off his...
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By 1965, Tommie was arguably
the fastest man on earth.
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As his reputation flourished,
fellow athlete Lynda Huey
became more than a fan.
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We started seeing each other
and it lasted for about a year.
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He was very secretive. He didn't want
anyone to know that we were involved,
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we were dating, we saw each other
behind closed doors
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either
at my apartment or at his apartment.
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Tommie had good cause
to be secretive.
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Interracial marriage
was still outlawed in many states.
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Besides, many young blacks
were rejecting whites
and multiracial ideals
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and a militant school of
black human rights activism
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was now challenging the dominance
of the civil rights movement.
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We are non-violent with people
who are non-violent with us.
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But we are not non-violent with
anyone who is violent with us.
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Malcolm X altered the mindset
of many young blacks.
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I am the greatest.
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Most notably, a charismatic young
boxer, whom he persuaded to join
the separatist Nation of Islam.
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Why do you insist on being
called Muhammad Ali now?
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It's the name given to me by my
leader, Elijah Muhammad,
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that's my original name,
that's a black man name.
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Cassius Clay is my slave name,
I'm no longer a slave.
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On 21st February 1965,
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Ali's mentor was gunned down in
Harlem, martyred for the struggle.
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He was a hero to me. He showed
the white man where it was at.
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And the goal of black progress
was also being threatened
by events overseas.
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This was also the time when we were
all aware that our peers were being
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sent 12,000 miles away to fight
in Vietnam,
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but they couldn't go to
school in Alabama or Mississippi.
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This angered us, this made us
willing to do whatever we could
to transform America.
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Tommie served his country
by enlisting in
the Reserve Officer Training Corps.
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By contrast, in April 1967,
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outspoken world heavyweight
boxing champion, Muhammad Ali
was drafted into the US military.
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Mr Muhammad Ali has just refused to
be inducted into the United States
armed forces.
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Notification of his refusal is being
made to the United States attorney.
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Muhammad Ali was the godfather
of this generation.
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I don't see why we and other
so-called Negroes go 10,000 miles
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to drop bombs and bullets on other
innocent brown people
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who's never bothered us.
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What made Muhammad Ali so important
to African America athletes
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was the same reason
why Bob Dylan was so important to
white activists in the late 1960s.
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It was they they had seemed to
have done it already, you know?
They were ahead of the curve.
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Ali's principled stand
inspired militant black students
at San Jose State.
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It also galvanized newly appointed
sociology of sport professor,
Harry Edwards,
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who, after gaining his doctorate,
returned to teach there in 1967.
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What I was doing in the classes
was pointing out
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that sport
inevitably recapitulates society.
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You can't have a racist society and
not have a racist sports institution
and here's the evidence of it.
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He was my instructor at a course
called Racial Minorities.
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When he offered it the first time,
I took that course.
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And there were 300 to 400 students
in an auditorium,
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most of them white and he would
come in there dressed in
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a military Vietnamese
jungle-covered outfit
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with matches in his pocket and
wearing his black beret and at 6'8",
200 lbs he would just walk
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down the aisle and scare everybody
and it was kinda like "Cool!
Scare us, Harry, cool!".
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Harry's classes radicalised Tommie.
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Yet it was a casual remark Tommie
made at the World University Games
in Tokyo in November 1967
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that precipitated the events, which
would trigger the black protests
at the Olympics, a year later.
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A boycott
is possible and it's probable.
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The reasoning is why should we
participate for a country
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and 100% effort and come back to
our homes
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and are denied some of the rights
that should be given us.
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I didn't say yes, there would be,
I didn't say
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no, there wouldn't be. I said,
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between the lines there's work for
all of us to do. Let's wait and see.
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And a major part of it was
the media focusing back on us
as a consequence of Tommie's
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statements in Japan,
and Tommie's statements in Japan
came directly out of
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some of the courses, some of the
discussions, debate and so forth
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that were taking place
on this campus.
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I think it was almost accidental,
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it wasn't scripted, it wasn't
rehearsed, it wasn't planned,
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it was in response to a question,
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you get an honest answer and a
controversy comes out of that answer
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that all of a sudden allows people
like Harry Edwards and Tommie Smith
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to see they were in the middle of
something, something was possible.
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In the fall of 1967,
Harry and Ken became militant.
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They challenged
the college authorities
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to reverse its racist policy
towards black athletic scholars.
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And more.
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And while we are at it, let's look
at the housing, let's look at
the academic opportunities,
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the whole situation with the
fraternities and the sororities,
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let's look at the whole issue of
the hiring. Where are the Negro
professors, the Negro coaches,
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they're taking our football from us,
but if we wanted a job here,
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we couldn't work here.
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Well, it was disbelief, you know.
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Who are these guys,
there's no problem,
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you guys are creating
a problem.
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Everything is fine.
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Well, the only thing I recall
was the list of demands that
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Harry made and I remember looking at
those thinking they won't be able to
meet those.
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That's not gonna work! But I had
also been very involved in
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some of those demands because
I had gone and rented apartments
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for some of these guys and then
turned a key over to them.
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Harry and Ken organised
a student demonstration.
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It changed nothing.
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By contrast, their threat to boycott
the college's lucrative,
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season-opening
football match against Brigham
Young University reaped rewards.
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Success inspired them to act
on Tommie's proposal
for a black Olympic boycott.
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In November 1967,
Harry won unanimous support
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for the idea at the Los Angeles
Black Youth Conference...
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His victory would put him on a
collision course with international
Olympic supremo Avery Brundage,
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who was adamant that sport
should be a politics-free zone.
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And he wasn't alone.
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We were in a situation where not
all of the athletes
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were either accessible
or likely to participate
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in anything close to a boycott.
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Two such athletes were
long jumpers Bob Beamon.
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and Olympic gold medallist
Ralph Boston.
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As a guy who was nearing the end of
his Olympic career,
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my first reaction was
I don't want to do this.
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I need to go ahead and do this,
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this is gonna be my ticket to
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earning a good living for my family
and so on and so I did... I wasn't...
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I wasn't very interested at the time.
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We'd been doing this here
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half of our lives and suddenly
we wanna give it up now,
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for whatever he was trying to say?
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Harry's proposed black
Olympic boycott
was anathema to Avery Brundage,
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the all-powerful head of
the International Olympic Committee.
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In Olympic circles,
the word boycott is not used -
that's a political word.
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If they withdraw
for political reasons
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it's a sign that they do not
understand the Olympic philosophy of
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no discrimination because of race,
religion or political affiliations.
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The Olympic Project for Human Rights
or OPHR became the vehicle for the
proposed black Olympic boycott.
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Remarkably, the fledgling group was
backed by Dr Martin Luther King,
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who signed up as an advisor
when he met Harry at the group's
press launch in New York City.
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Dr King was about 5'9"
tall with his hat on and...
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about 165lbs so I'm standing there
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6'8", about 270lbs and he said,
"Well, I see why these folk
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"so scared of you. You huge!"
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We laughed about it, but he
understood that this was merely
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an overlay onto athletics of
the pattern and paradigm
that he had established.
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Uniquely, OPHR also won
huge support
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from the militant human rights wing
of the black liberation struggle.
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Harry courted activists
including Stokely Carmichael.
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We want black power,
we want black power. Black power!
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And H. Rap Brown.
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The rebellions that we see
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are merely dress rehearsals for
the revolution that's to come.
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OPHR backed up its call for
a black Olympic boycott
with a list of incendiary demands.
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Their primary objective called for
the dismissal of their archenemy,
Avery Brundage.
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Who we found on a country club
in Santa Barbara
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which had "no Negroes and no
Jews need apply" in its charter
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and this guy is the head of the
International Olympic committee.
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Avery Brundage had form.
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He'd been instrumental
in winning the 1936 Berlin
Olympics for Adolf Hitler.
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Two years later, Hitler
reciprocated by contracting
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Brundage's construction firm to
build the German Embassy in America.
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We're talking about somebody
who was kicked out of the America
First Committee in 1940,
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which was a horrible Nazi solidarity
group in the United States.
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trying to keep the US out of World
War 2. He was expelled
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for being too pro-Hitler,
it was embarrassing to them
so he was asked to leave.
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This is who Avery Brundage was
and he made sure that the
International Olympic Committee
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contained more fascists
than the Nuremberg trials.
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Another OPHR demand concerned
the movement's warrior saint,
Muhammad Ali.
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He'd been stripped of his world
title and banned from boxing
for refusing to fight in Vietnam.
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OPHR insisted the decision
be reversed.
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Mr Clay. Muhammad Ali, sir.
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Mr Clay... Muhammad Ali, sir.
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..or Mr Muhammad Ali, either one.
Yes, sir.
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Muhammad Ali is important
because he is probably
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one of the first athletes
who begins to
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publicly articulate this
relationship between sport, race
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and politics and crucially begins
to do so in a global context.
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A third OPHR demand concerned
"disinviting" the all-white teams
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of Southern Rhodesia and apartheid
South Africa to the 1968 Olympics.
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Like the group's call for his
sacking, it was bound to invoke
the ire of Avery Brundage.
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Well, in the first place we
have not invited South Africa.
We don't deal with nations.
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We've invited a multiracial team,
a mixed team, from South Africa
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chosen by a multiracial committee
according to Olympic regulations.
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Whether we are talking about
disinviting apartheid South
Africa and southern Rhodesia,
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restoring Muhammad Ali's title
or the reign of Avery Brundage
where he ran
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the International Olympic Committee
like a racist fiefdom,
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you're talking about three points
in which the people of the OPHR
were proven correct by history.
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It became very clear
that there was a direct
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network of connections
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between what we were experiencing
here at San Jose State
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and what was being experienced
on the national level
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in the Olympic movement
by African Americans
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and what was happening in places
like South Africa and Southern
Rhodesia on the international level.
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These were all the same people,
it was the same power structure.
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OPHR's demands were so outrageous
that news headlines were guaranteed.
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However, Harry was forced to
reinvent himself to keep them
in the media spotlight.
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Don't forget that about 30 miles from
San Jose was Oakland, California, the
Black Panther party was born there.
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So we started attending some Black
Panther party meetings in Oakland
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and they said we were militant.
We weren't fighting anybody,
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but they call you militant cos you
wasn't agreeing with the status quo.
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The Black Panther party
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set...a new bar,
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in terms of what was...accessible.
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It's pigs, pigs, pigs, there's
another pig at his campaign
headquarters right up there.
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Those suit-wearing days
were over with, you didn't have to
be polite, in point of fact,
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the thing now
was to get in their face.
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Cos its all one big penitentiary,
it's all run by pigs.
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It was an aesthetic that was
just on the absolute edge of cool.
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It marked you as someone
who was not gonna do it
in the old civil rights way.
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And that was something that Edwards
adopted, far more than he adopted
the actual politics of the Panthers.
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In February 1968, OPHR took direct
action on one of their demands,
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the desegregation of the
New York Athletic Club.
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They staged a mass boycott of the
club's showpiece centennial meet.
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The New York Athletic Club
was notorious for
not allowing Jews or blacks
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to come use the facilities.
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When the track meet comes around,
they want the black athletes to
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come and help bring audiences
and money to their doors.
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That was one of the first things
Harry targeted.
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If we're good enough to get in
and make $15-30,000
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on one track meet
for the New York Athletic Club,
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we should be good enough
to do anything
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the New York Athletic Club
has to offer.
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I called some of my friends,
the guys I knew. Hey, you know,
don't go to the New York AC meet.
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To have Igor come from Moscow
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and be wined and dined and stay
at the Athletic Club
and I have never seen the inside
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and I'm an American citizen
and I'm competing in their meet -
that didn't sit very well with me.
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The boycott made national news.
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Yet OPHR's credibility
was undermined by its inability
to present a united black front.
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Long jumper, Bob Beamon,
was one of a handful of athletes
who crossed its picket line.
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I felt in-between.
I just hated for politics to...
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..and human right issues...
to seep into sports.
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I was disappointed that he went
to the New York AC meet because
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only three or four blacks showed.
Bob is lucky somebody didn't beat
him down there in New York,
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because some Black Panthers
said that any black people who went,
they were going to beat them down.
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We understood what we were asking,
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but it was necessary
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in order to move this thing ahead.
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I think that was one of
the high points of the movement -
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that was the closest thing
to a boycott success.
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Despite Bob's participation,
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OPHR members had bigger issues.
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Not least unwelcome attention,
which threatened their goal
of a black Olympic boycott.
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It started as soon as we joined
the proposed boycott,
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"We're gonna kill you niggers
Friday at two."
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It happened on a daily basis almost.
Tommie gave me a copy and said,
'Hey, look at this!"
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and I say, "You haven't seen
anything, look at these!"
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So I had a whole box of hate mail.
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Harry Edwards had his dogs cut up,
killed and slaughtered and cut up
in pieces and left on his doorstep.
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He did in fact relate to Ken Noel
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here's the kind of leadership
we need to provide if I'm not
gonna be around to complete it.
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It got the place where
I would not go to a restaurant,
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a sit down restaurant where you
order food from a menu and eat.
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I wouldn't go to any restaurant
except a smorgasbord,
where they have all the food
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laid out and you pay a certain
amount at the front when you go in
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then eat what you want,
because if they didn't know I was
coming, they couldn't poison me.
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Racist rednecks were the
least of Harry's problems.
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His position as OPHR's mouthpiece
had made him a target
for the federal authorities.
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There were so many instances
where we would go someplace
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and the guys would be out there.
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We would go in two cars, him
in front, I'm behind, I fall out
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to a side street and wait and
you see people coming by tailing us.
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Right on to wherever we're going.
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With Harry and co. up against it,
Brundage looked set for victory.
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OPHR desperately needed a boost.
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And in April 1968,
it came in the form of John Carlos,
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a world-class sprinter-cum-activist
from Harlem, who became a student
at San Jose State.
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Lee Evans and Art Simburg
brought Carlos.
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And Lee Evans spoke very highly
of him and I remember him saying,
"This is a guy who gets it.
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"He understands what happened at
San Jose State because we've
talked about it."
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These were things that were dear to
his heart. These were not bulletins
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to him. I mean, to some people
these were things that were
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a real awakening for people.
It's not an awakening for him,
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I mean, it was tremendous
reinforcement of things that he knew.
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He was the most militant
of all of those track athletes.
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He's the most vocal and the most
militant and he would take a stand
in anybody's face.
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He would say anything to anybody,
so yes, he was number one
militant man on campus.
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In John Carlos you have somebody
who I think, much more than
other historians give him credit for,
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was very responsible for giving what
happened in 1968 a certain edge
and a certain timelessness
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that pushed it from being
a symbol of civil rights
into a symbol of black power.
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For all their athletic prowess
and political zeal,
Tommie, Lee and John alone
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couldn't keep alive media interest
in OPHR's proposed Olympic boycott.
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Once again, Brundage was poised
to silence the upstart Negroes.
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Until OPHR got a fillip
from a most unlikely source.
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the Harvard 8-man rowing crew.
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The way that all developed
was as we were working to
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make the Olympic team and as we were
training through that summer
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before the Olympic trials there
were a number of articles about,
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not only about what was referred to
as the revolt of the black athletes,
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but I think where it was starting to
focus was on the notion
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that there could be a boycott of the
Olympics to highlight these issues.
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For them to step up when they did
was a crucial thing, to keeping if
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not the possibility
of a boycott alive
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the idea of racial justice
really in the public eye.
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What we did in fact do was, as
each member of the Olympic team
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was selected in any sport
we wrote them a letter.
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We sent them a copy of our original
statement. And we basically invited
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everybody to make an effort
to try to understand the plight
of black athletes and the plight
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of black people in America.
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What was remarkable was how little
response there was. It was very much
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like dropping the rock in the
well and not hearing the splash.
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Although timely,
the Harvard rowers' support couldn't
generate media interest forever.
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By August, Harry had
a difficult decision to take.
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We knew from the outset
that we were not going to be able
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to pull together a boycott for
all the reasons that I've discussed
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but that didn't mean that
we were not able...that we would
not be able to make a statement.
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So the headline that came out in the
paper after the press conference was
"There are many ways to boycott".
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Everybody
is free to do what they feel,
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their commitment permits them to do.
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I think he really thought
it was over, it was like
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his eulogy for the movement
and he didn't get it.
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He'd really set something in motion
that wasn't only not just
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winding down but it was in fact
looking to its high point.
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'In October watch the summer Olympic
Games exclusively live and in
colour from Mexico City on ABC.'
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'We are at Lake Tahoe in the
Sierra Nevada Mountains,
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'scene of the United States Olympic
men's track and field trials.'
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When the Olympic trials were staged
in September, OPHR was in disarray.
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Harry didn't attend.
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And the members who did
were down and lacking direction.
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'Here in the woods,
we're ready to go now.'
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Even so, the group welcomed
a former dissenter into its ranks.
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When the meetings began in California
I starting getting hate mail
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and I was nowhere even near that,
it made sense to me
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that if I'm gonna get hate mail,
if I'm gonna get killed,
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I might as well get killed -
and the threat was there -
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I might as well get killed for being
a part of something rather than to
stand out on this island alone.
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World record
44.5 held by Tommie Smith.
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Everything now rested on
winning Olympic qualification,
not hearts and minds.
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Then an unprovoked intervention
by Brundage
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gave impetus to renewed militancy
among the angry black athletes.
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We went to Lake Tahoe and
there was no meetings there was...
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We didn't talk about it, but Avery
Brundage, idiot that he is,
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there was a newspaper article
that said Avery Brundage
makes a statement and he said,
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"If they come to the Olympics and
they make trouble we know what to do
with them" - he threatened us.
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So we started having meetings again.
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It's a new world record.
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In that meeting, Ralph Boston was
a moderator of this meeting,
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it was to front the letter
that was sent to us by the IOC,
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via the USOC that if any athlete
step out of line that he would
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be immediately kicked off
the Olympic team and sent home.
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It was pretty much a foregone
conclusion there that we gonna go,
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we are definitely gonna go, but we
have gotta decide how to handle this
thing we've got our hands around.
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If I can ask you first of all -
is the boycott itself dead now?
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Is it finished?
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I would say the boycott is off.
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Now what about other things
that might happen at Mexico City?
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Well, I couldn't give you
any concrete evidence
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or any concrete answers on what
will happen at Mexico City.
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All I can say is, you can
expect almost anything.
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All I can say is, you can
expect almost anything.
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The Mexico City Games
opened with a colourful display
of global togetherness
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with the world watching on.
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The stage was set
for Tommie, John and Lee to make
a powerful statement, but what?
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Harry wasn't there and his OPHR
disciples had no concrete plan,
It looked as if Brundage would enjoy
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Indeed behind the scenes Brundage's
minions, like American official
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Bob Paul, were trying to
neutralise potential troublemakers.
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There were a series of
remarkable incidences
once we got to Mexico City.
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Pete Axthelm, sports editor of
Newsweek was initially denied
credentials.
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He got to the Olympic stadium and Bob
Paul walked up to him and said,
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"Oh, I see you got in.
I hope you've got something better
to write about than niggers".
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I mean, this is the head of public
relations for the Olympic Committee!
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Umm, it was just breathtaking stuff.
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The world record holder Tommie Smith
of America - 6'3" and 14 stone.
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Any thoughts Tommie had about
representing OPHR's cause
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entailed making it
to the victory rostrum.
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However, a moment of high drama
during his semi-final
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raised serious doubts about his
future involvement at the Games.
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Just watch Tommie Smith go from
this stage and he's really
powering it away.
433
00:31:27,974 --> 00:31:31,776
When I crossed the finish I turned
my left leg a little too much.
434
00:31:31,811 --> 00:31:35,579
Again very close, the world record,
and disaster for Tommie Smith.
435
00:31:35,614 --> 00:31:37,865
It only took half a stride
and I felt it, I said,
436
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:41,619
"Oh, no I've been shot," because
of all the hate mail I had gotten.
437
00:31:41,654 --> 00:31:45,339
That could be the difference between
the gold medal and nothing at all.
438
00:31:45,374 --> 00:31:47,344
And you know what I said?
To myself of course.
439
00:31:47,379 --> 00:31:51,619
"Oh, it's just a pulled muscle."
Now where do those words come from?
440
00:31:51,654 --> 00:31:55,500
You idiot! A pulled muscle
means that there is a possibility,
441
00:31:55,535 --> 00:31:57,545
that you will not compete.
442
00:31:57,580 --> 00:32:01,184
I managed to get through
some barriers, past some guards,
443
00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:06,145
somehow pull something to
get over to the area, where they're,
you know they're in a tent.
444
00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:11,079
They actually froze the groin
area where the injury had happened
and you see his first few steps.
445
00:32:11,114 --> 00:32:16,286
It's very obvious he wouldn't be able
to explode off the blocks,
if he could run in the final.
446
00:32:16,321 --> 00:32:21,459
After they iced it and Bo had
said, "Tom Tom lets go out on the
practice track and try it out."
447
00:32:21,494 --> 00:32:23,876
And I said, "OK. coach."
448
00:32:23,911 --> 00:32:26,224
It was a tense time.
449
00:32:26,259 --> 00:32:30,540
And I said, "Coach, I think
I'm OK," he said, "OK, in a few
minutes they're gonna call
450
00:32:30,575 --> 00:32:34,299
"the final call for the 200 metres,
be ready." I said, "OK!"
451
00:32:34,334 --> 00:32:37,105
But when it came to the final
he was there and in great
452
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:41,899
competition with his fellow American
John Carlos, this was the final
of the 200 metres for men.
453
00:32:41,934 --> 00:32:44,785
It's all or nothing now.
454
00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:50,144
The proposed boycott,
all the training, lost my job,
455
00:32:50,179 --> 00:32:55,180
wife needs clothes, Kevin needs
milk, cotton fields,
all this was here.
456
00:32:56,940 --> 00:33:00,240
Come to your marks! Get set!
457
00:33:00,275 --> 00:33:03,540
Silence! Nothing I heard,
458
00:33:03,575 --> 00:33:05,545
but silence.
459
00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:09,780
Doing well in lane two is
Tommie Smith who's got one
of the best starts in his career.
460
00:33:09,815 --> 00:33:10,784
I'm in trouble.
461
00:33:10,819 --> 00:33:15,139
Mid turn or coming out of
the turn cause I was in third
or fourth place.
462
00:33:15,174 --> 00:33:17,940
In lane two is Roger Bamford
coming up to John Carlos,
463
00:33:17,975 --> 00:33:19,105
but Carlos coming now.
464
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,104
'At about eighty metres cause
it was just out of the turn.'
465
00:33:22,139 --> 00:33:26,024
I made a surge and when I made
the surge I could almost feel myself
466
00:33:26,059 --> 00:33:30,939
Tommie Smith of America going well
Tommie Smith America out in front
and Carlos on the near side.
467
00:33:30,974 --> 00:33:34,299
And I knew that the only way
I was going to catch anybody
468
00:33:34,334 --> 00:33:36,385
in front of me
was a burst of speed.
469
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:41,499
And Carlos is being followed
by Tommie Smith coming right
through,
470
00:33:41,534 --> 00:33:45,379
Tommie Smith wins, what a victor!
471
00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:47,104
'That smile.'
472
00:33:47,139 --> 00:33:52,620
Just before crossing the tape
was a smile of genuine elation
473
00:33:52,655 --> 00:33:55,819
that it is over.
474
00:33:55,854 --> 00:33:57,065
I have done
475
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,704
what I'm here to do.
476
00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:07,219
The time inside 19.8,
the new world record.
477
00:34:07,254 --> 00:34:10,304
'I had decided to have'
478
00:34:10,339 --> 00:34:15,499
Mrs Smith bring me gloves,
but I didn't know what
I was gonna do with them.
479
00:34:15,534 --> 00:34:18,700
When they were getting ready to
go out for the awards ceremony
480
00:34:18,735 --> 00:34:21,737
it was clear something was up,
481
00:34:21,772 --> 00:34:24,739
um, they had black gloves on,
482
00:34:24,774 --> 00:34:28,265
they had black socks.
483
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:31,345
I had a left glove and I told John,
484
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:35,260
"John, this is what I'm gonna do,
if you want the left glove,
485
00:34:35,295 --> 00:34:36,425
"you can have it."
486
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:41,000
The fellow who won the silver medal
was an Australian named Peter Norman.
487
00:34:41,035 --> 00:34:45,540
He said, "Mate, I believe in what
you believe in and I want to help".
488
00:34:45,575 --> 00:34:50,059
"White boy, you're Australian,
I mean come on,
489
00:34:50,094 --> 00:34:52,620
"go get your medal
and just, you know..."
490
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:54,065
so I said no.
491
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:58,060
And on the way out Paul Hoffman
was hanging over the banister.
492
00:34:58,095 --> 00:35:01,025
I was wearing my Olympic
Project for Human Rights button
493
00:35:01,060 --> 00:35:04,264
and he looked at me and said
"Have you got another one of those?"
494
00:35:04,299 --> 00:35:08,219
And so here's this white Australian
with two black Americans about to go
495
00:35:08,254 --> 00:35:10,664
out on an awards ceremony
and wants a button,
496
00:35:10,699 --> 00:35:14,580
I'm damned if I'm gonna be the
one to say he can't
so I said, "You'll wear it?"
497
00:35:14,615 --> 00:35:17,059
and he said "yes"
so I gave mine to him.
498
00:35:20,899 --> 00:35:26,344
We were really excited and
thrilled and, kind of, not really
expecting much from these guys,
499
00:35:26,379 --> 00:35:31,740
maybe from Carlos cos he was the
more militant, but not from Tommie,
this was a share-croppers son.
500
00:35:31,775 --> 00:35:34,899
from Lemoore who picked cotton,
this was the quiet child.
501
00:35:43,339 --> 00:35:46,345
There were more than two hundred
of us watching.
502
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:50,539
the actual event, we knew
something was gonna happen.
503
00:35:59,259 --> 00:36:02,264
The star spangled banner,
504
00:36:02,299 --> 00:36:04,859
when they did what they did
was absolute eternity.
505
00:36:22,419 --> 00:36:25,900
'But see I did not
throw a rock and hide my hand.
506
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:32,720
'What I did is held my hand up
in a cry for freedom.'
507
00:36:32,755 --> 00:36:37,140
We were electrified when they raised
their fists,
508
00:36:37,175 --> 00:36:39,905
none of us knew that was
coming
509
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:43,064
and when it happened it was so right.
510
00:36:43,099 --> 00:36:50,100
People called it...
"Black power", of course I'm black,
of course we represented power,
511
00:36:50,135 --> 00:36:53,017
but it was a cry for freedom.
512
00:36:53,052 --> 00:36:55,515
"Here, notice me, I'm in need..."
513
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:57,979
"What are you in need of?" Justice.
514
00:37:02,139 --> 00:37:04,984
We were in awe of it, we were
silent we just stood there.
515
00:37:05,019 --> 00:37:09,099
Nobody said a word through
the Anthem, we just sat there
and looked at each other
516
00:37:09,134 --> 00:37:13,179
and looked back at the
TV and looked at each other
and looked back at the TV.
517
00:37:13,214 --> 00:37:14,945
It was quite a moment.
518
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:18,299
You know, you're sitting there
and saying that's along time for
519
00:37:18,334 --> 00:37:20,585
somebody to take out a gun
and shoot them.
520
00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:26,100
You're doing this in the same year
that Martin Luther King and a Kennedy
are assassinated?!
521
00:37:26,135 --> 00:37:29,705
I think there was a great deal
of shock and people,
522
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:32,705
people were sort of awe struck
by what they're looking at.
523
00:37:32,740 --> 00:37:37,979
I don't think until after it was over
you heard a huge murmur afterwards,
you know, trying to kind of...
524
00:37:38,014 --> 00:37:41,024
what did all this mean?
525
00:37:41,059 --> 00:37:45,100
Tommie can you tell us
the significance of the black glove
526
00:37:45,135 --> 00:37:47,020
on the right hand
and the black socks?
527
00:37:47,055 --> 00:37:49,585
They represent black America.
528
00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:53,499
I'm proud to be a black man,
and all my people back home
529
00:37:53,534 --> 00:37:56,264
know that it's very significant.
530
00:37:56,299 --> 00:37:59,824
Well, the iconography is
absolutely, it's fascinating.
531
00:37:59,859 --> 00:38:04,385
So you have the leading arm of
Tommie Smith, his right arm raised
532
00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:09,460
and you have the left arm of
John Carlos and it forms that
nice arc showing the unity.
533
00:38:09,495 --> 00:38:12,625
of black America, so it
becomes an aesthetic moment.
534
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:16,219
They're not wearing shoes as a way
to say something about
535
00:38:16,254 --> 00:38:17,577
poverty in black America,
536
00:38:17,612 --> 00:38:18,865
they're wearing beads
537
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:22,380
around their necks to symbolise
the lynchings that had occurred
538
00:38:22,415 --> 00:38:24,265
in the history of black America.
539
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:28,740
John Carlos's jacket is
unzipped which is a
tremendous breach in protocol.
540
00:38:28,775 --> 00:38:32,100
He said to me he kept his jacket
unzipped because he wanted it to be
541
00:38:32,135 --> 00:38:34,825
a tribute to blue collar
workers black and white.
542
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:37,840
Peter Norman disrupts that
simple narrative of it only being
543
00:38:37,875 --> 00:38:40,667
about Black Nationalist politics
and it broadens it out.
544
00:38:40,702 --> 00:38:43,459
That's a reason that the image has
been so powerful -
545
00:38:43,494 --> 00:38:46,345
you can read into it,
so many different stories.
546
00:38:46,380 --> 00:38:49,225
It blows your mind
that this isn't just a black thing.
547
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:53,780
This is a moment of resistance, this
is about people who've had enough.
548
00:38:53,815 --> 00:39:01,504
And people who want to stand up
and be counted and it gives
549
00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:05,424
taking things away from
white people, about the advance
of black people.
550
00:39:05,459 --> 00:39:10,899
There is a place for white people,
there has to be a place for white
people in that struggle.
551
00:39:10,934 --> 00:39:15,037
The American team spokesman
said today that United States
Olympic officials
552
00:39:15,072 --> 00:39:19,245
wouldn't take any action
against American Negroes
Tommie Smith and John Carlos
553
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,419
who raised their arms in
a Black Power salute during
the Olympic medal ceremony.
554
00:39:23,454 --> 00:39:27,417
The officials knew that they planned
to do it before the ceremony,
555
00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:31,345
the runners had told their coach who
notified Olympic officials
556
00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:35,299
said the spokesman, they said
they did it to show
black people are united.
557
00:39:38,619 --> 00:39:41,659
Yet Avery Brundage
wouldn't let it lie.
558
00:39:41,694 --> 00:39:43,784
He dispatched Jesse Owens
559
00:39:43,819 --> 00:39:47,639
to prevent any repetition of
Tommie and John's demonstration.
560
00:39:47,674 --> 00:39:51,459
Jesse did Brundage's bidding,
despite his master stripping him
561
00:39:51,494 --> 00:39:53,984
of his amateur status
in a fit of pique
562
00:39:54,019 --> 00:39:59,100
after the 1936 Olympics, a decision
which had reduced the great Olympian
563
00:39:59,135 --> 00:40:02,877
to racing against horses
to make money.
564
00:40:02,912 --> 00:40:06,584
and Avery Brundage
in all his mutton-idiocy
565
00:40:06,619 --> 00:40:12,900
decides that "Well, Jesse Owens
must be a black icon to these young
men because he's black and famous.
566
00:40:12,935 --> 00:40:18,579
"Therefore I will send Jesse
Owens in, in all his well-spoken
Ohio state four gold medal
567
00:40:18,614 --> 00:40:22,257
"grandeur and Jesse Owens
will calm all of this down".
568
00:40:22,292 --> 00:40:25,900
These guys, they didn't want
to hear from Jesse Owens
569
00:40:25,935 --> 00:40:26,984
for ten seconds.
570
00:40:27,019 --> 00:40:31,500
As soon as they saw
Jesse Owens and knew he was sent
there by Brundage that was it.
571
00:40:31,535 --> 00:40:33,025
To me,
572
00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:38,899
politics has no part to play on
the field of strife of competition
573
00:40:38,934 --> 00:40:40,225
I've never believed it.
574
00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:44,779
He came in there to our meeting and
told us we shouldn't wear black socks
575
00:40:44,814 --> 00:40:46,505
and he gave us some stupid reason
576
00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:49,264
why we shouldn't wear
black socks, then he said it was
577
00:40:49,299 --> 00:40:54,299
going to be hard for us to find
a job when we get back to America
if we do these type of things.
578
00:40:54,334 --> 00:40:56,545
I said, "We can't find a job now.
579
00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:59,945
"We have you know,
Tommie and John couldn't find a job
580
00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:03,699
"before they stuck their fists in the
air so what's the damn difference?".
581
00:41:03,734 --> 00:41:05,384
And he cried!
582
00:41:05,419 --> 00:41:11,140
There were some athletes said
that, you know, you had to do what
you did because you're a Tom.
583
00:41:11,175 --> 00:41:14,420
We chased him out, the great,
the great Jesse Owens, man.
584
00:41:14,455 --> 00:41:17,017
We looked at
him as a Big Uncle Tom.
585
00:41:17,052 --> 00:41:19,579
And what really hurt me was that...
586
00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:24,740
..he was not even
allowed a position
587
00:41:24,775 --> 00:41:27,660
on the United
States Olympic committee
588
00:41:27,695 --> 00:41:30,584
until after we demanded
589
00:41:30,619 --> 00:41:37,420
that a black person be put on
the United States Olympic
committee and they put him on.
590
00:41:37,455 --> 00:41:41,420
and attacked us saying that's
not the way you get things done.
591
00:41:41,455 --> 00:41:44,104
Although Brundage failed
to bring the uppity black boys
592
00:41:44,139 --> 00:41:51,619
back into line, he had a personal
stake in ensuring Tommie and John
were punished for their stand.
593
00:41:51,654 --> 00:41:54,657
Good morning, the Olympic Games
are one week old today,
594
00:41:54,692 --> 00:41:57,625
and yesterday the sixth day
was the most dramatic so far.
595
00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:01,860
It started with the news that
the Black Power disciples Tommie
Smith and John Carlos
596
00:42:01,895 --> 00:42:05,857
the Olympic two hundred metres
Gold and Bronze medallists
had been suspended
597
00:42:05,892 --> 00:42:09,820
by the United States Olympic
committee and given 48 hours
to leave Mexico.
598
00:42:09,855 --> 00:42:12,385
I said that if there
were any demonstrations
599
00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:16,740
at the Olympic games by anyone,
the participants would be sent home.
600
00:42:19,539 --> 00:42:24,859
That demonstration I think aroused
resentment among all who saw it,
601
00:42:24,894 --> 00:42:27,745
there's no place
for such things
602
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:30,460
and the boys involved were
promptly sent home.
603
00:42:30,495 --> 00:42:33,257
I heard in their expulsion
604
00:42:33,292 --> 00:42:35,576
the hand of Avery Brundage.
605
00:42:35,611 --> 00:42:37,825
And if you don't do anything
606
00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:41,819
I am going to ban the entire
American Olympic team, oh, yes.
607
00:42:41,854 --> 00:42:45,859
Brundage couldn't let it go,
and for him it was both
608
00:42:45,894 --> 00:42:47,516
a matter of the personal attacks
609
00:42:47,551 --> 00:42:49,104
that he had been subjected to.
610
00:42:49,139 --> 00:42:53,179
Avery Brundage is a racist
and I'm very surprised that
611
00:42:53,214 --> 00:42:55,384
they re-elected Avery Brundage.
612
00:42:55,419 --> 00:42:59,144
As a matter of fact,
I heard about it cos I see there's n
613
00:42:59,179 --> 00:43:03,459
improvements gone everything
is still standing at the same way.
614
00:43:03,494 --> 00:43:07,704
The gesture, you know, some people
saw it and were impacted by it,
615
00:43:07,739 --> 00:43:13,705
but it didn't really get
big and didn't really offend
millions of Americans
616
00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:19,180
until the IOC insisted that
Smith and Carlos were
removed from the Olympic village.
617
00:43:19,215 --> 00:43:22,219
Do you think the Olympic Games are
the right place to do this
618
00:43:22,254 --> 00:43:25,024
kind of thing or to use this as
a kind of world stage?
619
00:43:25,059 --> 00:43:30,219
David, since we are athletes,
although I am a teacher,
but I'm not a politician...
620
00:43:31,819 --> 00:43:37,819
..we used this so the whole
world can see the
poverty of the black man in America.
621
00:43:37,854 --> 00:43:43,819
Cynics might say that you've
got it all, you've got publicity,
you got medals,
622
00:43:43,854 --> 00:43:46,384
you got martyrdom as well,
what do you say to that?
623
00:43:46,419 --> 00:43:50,744
I can't eat that and the kids round
my block they can't eat it,
624
00:43:50,779 --> 00:43:55,779
and the kids that's gonna
grow up after them they can't
eat it publicity,
625
00:43:55,814 --> 00:43:58,985
they can't eat gold
medals as Tommie Smith said.
626
00:43:59,020 --> 00:44:03,625
All we ask for is an equal chance
to be a human being
627
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:08,779
and as far as I see now,
we are five steps below the ladder
628
00:44:08,814 --> 00:44:10,864
and every time we try
and touch the ladder
629
00:44:10,899 --> 00:44:13,740
they put their foot on our
hands and don't want us to climb up.
630
00:44:17,019 --> 00:44:21,339
As Tommie and John received
their marching orders, Paul Hoffman
became the target
631
00:44:21,374 --> 00:44:25,659
for a United States Olympic
Committee disciplinary panel,
he'd been seen handing
632
00:44:25,694 --> 00:44:27,625
his OPHR badge to Peter Norman.
633
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:30,185
He was to answer
a conspiracy charge.
634
00:44:30,220 --> 00:44:36,060
If found guilty Paul would forfeit
his place in his crews
rowing final the next day.
635
00:44:36,095 --> 00:44:38,224
After a long
636
00:44:38,259 --> 00:44:41,980
discussion of really not much,
they sent me down
637
00:44:42,015 --> 00:44:44,984
the room to their hospitality lounge
638
00:44:45,019 --> 00:44:48,339
and then after about an hour or so
somebody came down and said
639
00:44:48,374 --> 00:44:50,665
"Congratulations, you
can race tomorrow".
640
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:53,379
I had to pretend that
somehow I should say thank you.
641
00:44:53,414 --> 00:44:56,704
I heard later
part of the discussion was...
642
00:44:56,739 --> 00:45:00,639
Many of these men had met
my father who was a judge
on the Virgin Islands,
643
00:45:00,674 --> 00:45:04,539
a former track guy
staying in the same hotel
and they said well, you know,
644
00:45:04,574 --> 00:45:07,105
his father is a judge,
he should be a good guy.
645
00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:10,904
That kind of completely irrational
irrelevant argument.
646
00:45:10,939 --> 00:45:16,339
Whatever it was however,
it got to the result I wanted
which was to row the next day.
647
00:45:16,374 --> 00:45:21,739
Two days after Tommie and John's
Black Power salutes made headline
news around the globe
648
00:45:21,774 --> 00:45:24,265
a black team mate did likewise
649
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:28,105
with a breathtaking example
of athleticism.
650
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:31,740
'On the long jump runway,
Bobby Beamon of the United States,
651
00:45:31,775 --> 00:45:35,340
'the man most feared by every
competitor in this competition.'
652
00:45:35,375 --> 00:45:38,900
And I stood there for a minute
and I said, you know...
653
00:45:40,499 --> 00:45:41,780
I feel good...
654
00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:47,299
I feel like I'm gonna do
something very special.
655
00:45:47,334 --> 00:45:49,420
'And here he goes
for his opening leap.'
656
00:45:49,455 --> 00:45:51,499
He comes zipping down the run-up.
657
00:45:51,534 --> 00:45:53,585
And I'm very loose.
658
00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:57,739
And he hits the first jump
and he's that far from
the end of the take off.
659
00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:06,979
I noticed that I was up there
five minutes, ten minutes,
660
00:46:07,014 --> 00:46:09,819
twenty five minutes, an hour,
suddenly I landed.
661
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:16,505
'Ooh, it's an enormous one!'
662
00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:19,780
And when he hits the pit
there's a roar. ROAR!
663
00:46:19,815 --> 00:46:22,945
'My goodness me,
it's an enormous one!'
664
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:29,220
I had a sense of people in the
stands giving, uh, "Hey, hey!".
665
00:46:29,255 --> 00:46:31,345
'Ralph Boston there,
congratulating him.'
666
00:46:31,380 --> 00:46:34,304
They had to find a measuring
tape because the site device
667
00:46:34,339 --> 00:46:38,420
would only go to 8 metres 60,
they finally rolled out the number.
668
00:46:38,455 --> 00:46:44,059
Which was in metres, and
I said, "Hmmm...' I had no idea.
669
00:46:44,094 --> 00:46:46,184
And he came to me and he said,
670
00:46:46,219 --> 00:46:48,660
"how far is that Ralph?"
And I'm...
671
00:46:50,259 --> 00:46:51,905
"that's 29 feet."
672
00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:54,700
He said, "No", I said,
"no, that's more than 29 feet."
673
00:46:54,735 --> 00:46:57,265
'Good gracious me!
674
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:01,699
'He's looking around at the judge...
My good... If HE'S leaping about!
675
00:47:01,734 --> 00:47:04,437
'Remember this man's done 27 before!'
676
00:47:04,472 --> 00:47:07,105
You know, I was like, are we crazy?
677
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:10,119
But then he, uh,
he walked around a little bit
678
00:47:10,154 --> 00:47:13,064
and he walked up to Charlie Maze
and myself
679
00:47:13,099 --> 00:47:17,659
and then he started to collapse and
that's the picture that I've seen
680
00:47:17,694 --> 00:47:19,984
where we were trying to pick him up.
681
00:47:20,019 --> 00:47:25,459
Bobs astonishing leap of 29 feet,
2� inches claimed the gold medal.
682
00:47:25,494 --> 00:47:30,025
Ralph won bronze,
although they weren't finished yet.
683
00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:34,899
In my mind, we had come this far
and you gotta make some sort of
statement.
684
00:47:34,934 --> 00:47:38,700
Bob was probably angry, when they
kicked Tommie and John off the team
685
00:47:38,735 --> 00:47:40,817
a lot of people who was not involved
686
00:47:40,852 --> 00:47:42,865
got involved because they were angry.
687
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:50,179
My protest was - my barefoot,
my pants rolled up,
my whatever you want to call it
688
00:47:50,214 --> 00:47:54,340
defiant looks and so-forth
was in support of John and Tommie.
689
00:47:54,375 --> 00:47:58,505
He took his shoes off
and I raised my socks.
690
00:47:58,540 --> 00:48:03,700
It could've been interpreted
as the same as John and Tommie
in a sense.
691
00:48:03,735 --> 00:48:05,185
'The 400m final.'
692
00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:10,899
There was great expectation as
Lee lined up for the final which
was delayed by Bob's wonder jump.
693
00:48:10,934 --> 00:48:15,340
As the world's top 400m runner
and a leading member of OPHR,
694
00:48:15,375 --> 00:48:18,064
the pressure was on
to win and to protest.
695
00:48:18,099 --> 00:48:22,664
When the guy said, "Set"
a smile came on my face.
696
00:48:22,699 --> 00:48:25,699
'The last to rise there
was the Ethiopian, Lee Evans.'
697
00:48:25,734 --> 00:48:29,100
They shot the gun
and I was flying, you know.
698
00:48:34,459 --> 00:48:36,104
'Closing up in lane two all the time
699
00:48:36,139 --> 00:48:38,065
'and there goes Evans now
on the outside.
700
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:42,780
I decided to lay it all out,
I went up to 100% effort
701
00:48:42,815 --> 00:48:46,024
from 200 metres to the finish.
702
00:48:46,059 --> 00:48:49,660
'Lee Evans nearest the camera and
the two Americans on the inside.'
703
00:48:49,695 --> 00:48:53,059
And...the rest is history!
I broke the World Record
704
00:48:53,094 --> 00:48:56,464
43.86, it stood for 20 years.
705
00:48:56,499 --> 00:48:59,739
It's gonna be an American one, two,
three! Lee Evans slowing up,
706
00:48:59,774 --> 00:49:02,059
he could get beaten,
Lee Evans could get beaten!
707
00:49:02,094 --> 00:49:03,704
No, he wins it! Evans wins,
708
00:49:03,739 --> 00:49:08,919
James second, Ron Freeman third,
another gold medal for America.
709
00:49:08,954 --> 00:49:14,099
Lee had been so very important to
everyone's consciousness changing
710
00:49:14,134 --> 00:49:15,944
before Mexico City.
711
00:49:15,979 --> 00:49:18,944
Lee had been more militant
than Tommie.
712
00:49:18,979 --> 00:49:23,779
Lee had been more conscious
than John and once Tommie
713
00:49:23,814 --> 00:49:27,816
and John, uh, thrust their fists
into the air,
714
00:49:27,851 --> 00:49:31,819
umm, we just couldn't wait
for Lee's event.
715
00:49:31,854 --> 00:49:34,664
'And they have made their protest,
716
00:49:34,699 --> 00:49:37,664
'they're all wearing
small black berets.'
717
00:49:37,699 --> 00:49:42,700
When we saw him approaching
the podium with the beret,
718
00:49:42,735 --> 00:49:46,265
uh, we knew that
the sky was the limit.
719
00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:50,425
'The Americans have said that
any other athletes
will be disciplined and now
720
00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:57,259
'all three of the American negroes
who've got medals for 400m
wearing tokens of protest.'
721
00:49:57,294 --> 00:50:01,037
Somebody said that they was gonna
shoot at us on the victory stand,
722
00:50:01,072 --> 00:50:04,780
so I figured it'd be hard to shoot
a guy with a big smile on his face,
723
00:50:04,815 --> 00:50:07,825
I had my biggest smile,
because I was scared to death.
724
00:50:07,860 --> 00:50:11,499
'The American Olympic committee on
record this morning yet again
725
00:50:11,534 --> 00:50:14,396
'saying that any more
demonstrations or gestures
726
00:50:14,431 --> 00:50:17,224
'would result in the athletes
being sent home,
727
00:50:17,259 --> 00:50:23,259
'and if the Americans are true
to their word, they've just lost
their 4 x 400 relay team.'
728
00:50:23,294 --> 00:50:25,225
There was a sense among
the black athletes
729
00:50:25,260 --> 00:50:28,299
that Lee had let them down. Like,
these two guys got thrown out,
730
00:50:28,334 --> 00:50:31,339
take your own risk and get thrown
out, don't be just protecting
731
00:50:31,374 --> 00:50:33,859
your own butt so you can
get another gold medal.
732
00:50:41,339 --> 00:50:45,505
Especially when he took the beret
off when the National anthem
733
00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:51,660
was playing, there was a visible
sense of disappointment in the crowd
734
00:50:51,695 --> 00:50:54,180
that was watching in the dormitory.
735
00:50:54,215 --> 00:50:56,740
Lee was told he was gutless.
736
00:50:56,775 --> 00:50:58,264
That's a tough thing.
737
00:50:58,299 --> 00:51:02,279
What he did wasn't good enough
for African Americans
738
00:51:02,314 --> 00:51:06,225
who he was interacting with.
Definitely it was too much
739
00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:09,425
for many white folks, so he was
very much caught in-between.
740
00:51:09,460 --> 00:51:13,304
He was somebody who really did the
dirty work when it came to building
741
00:51:13,339 --> 00:51:18,499
the Olympic Project For Human
Rights, I mean he was the person
who advocated for it,
742
00:51:18,534 --> 00:51:22,100
who spoke to other athletes, who in
Europe spoke to European athletes
743
00:51:22,135 --> 00:51:24,824
about how they fused politics
and sports.
744
00:51:24,859 --> 00:51:30,019
It was hard for me to handle because
I have, I was... I had no second
thoughts about my militancy
745
00:51:30,054 --> 00:51:34,660
and so it didn't...
When it was questioned, you know,
I became angry and disappointed.
746
00:51:34,695 --> 00:51:39,060
In retrospect,
Lee was under even more pressure
747
00:51:39,095 --> 00:51:40,984
than any of us could imagine,
748
00:51:41,019 --> 00:51:47,099
but in our youthful zeal,
we wanted him to do something
that was impossible.
749
00:51:47,134 --> 00:51:51,100
What could you do beyond
what Tommie and John had done?
750
00:51:54,859 --> 00:51:57,220
The Mexico City Olympics were over.
751
00:52:00,819 --> 00:52:06,820
Despite the controversies,
they witnessed America's best ever
track and field team.
752
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:11,624
The Black Victory stand protests
had given the lie to
753
00:52:11,659 --> 00:52:15,984
Brundage's assertion that
politics and sports shouldn't mix.
754
00:52:16,019 --> 00:52:21,259
Now all that remained was for
Tommie, John and Lee
to return to San Jose State
755
00:52:21,294 --> 00:52:24,940
to complete their studies and face
the consequences of their actions.
756
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:29,265
Tommie and John were never pariahs
with us.
757
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:34,505
When they came back from Mexico City,
they were celebrated.
758
00:52:34,540 --> 00:52:42,139
We paraded them around on campus,
uh, we couldn't get enough of Tommie
and John when they came back.
759
00:52:42,174 --> 00:52:45,025
It was a life-changing experience
760
00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:51,780
and I saw from, directly after
Mexico City, I saw students around,
761
00:52:51,815 --> 00:52:55,579
African American students
around the country
762
00:52:55,614 --> 00:52:58,424
beginning to do things.
763
00:52:58,459 --> 00:53:00,145
Tommie Smith!! Tommie Smith!!
764
00:53:00,180 --> 00:53:04,819
It gave confidence to people
even outside of America
that they were part of
765
00:53:04,854 --> 00:53:06,985
a broader movement and this is why
766
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:11,105
we need to situate that moment
alongside the iconography of people
767
00:53:11,140 --> 00:53:16,380
like Pele and Eusebio and the
emergence of the West Indies cricket
team which begins to take place
768
00:53:16,415 --> 00:53:18,705
in the '60s as a kind of
a dominant force.
769
00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:23,940
Where blacks celebrated
Tommie and John,
whites were generally hostile.
770
00:53:23,975 --> 00:53:26,185
Carlos's dog was slaughtered
771
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:31,780
and thrown on his front porch, his
wife committed suicide, um, I don't
know where their daughter is now.
772
00:53:31,815 --> 00:53:34,945
'Tommie Smith - the fastest man
in the world has ended up here
773
00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:40,980
'in the northern industrial town
of Wakefield.' OK, make a circle,
bring it around, all the way around.
774
00:53:41,015 --> 00:53:46,899
I travelled anywhere I could travel
to pay the rent and buy food.
775
00:53:46,934 --> 00:53:49,385
'This is how far he has fallen
776
00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:52,819
'four years in which he's been
thrown out of the US athletics team,
777
00:53:52,854 --> 00:53:55,380
'his marriage has broken up,
he's been spat at in the street
778
00:53:55,415 --> 00:53:57,900
'and has received more than
50 threats on his life.'
779
00:53:57,935 --> 00:54:00,745
Had I been a good boy in Mexico,
780
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:05,100
I coulda probably been monetarily
richer and I would probably have
781
00:54:05,135 --> 00:54:07,265
been a bigger figure
than I am right now,
782
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:10,939
but yet 'n' still I would have
to fight myself from the inside.
783
00:54:10,974 --> 00:54:14,185
Lee's fortunes also went
into a steep nose-dive.
784
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:17,024
There was some backlash on Lee when
he came back to San Jose.
785
00:54:17,059 --> 00:54:20,219
I've always felt that that was why
he went off to Africa and coached
786
00:54:20,254 --> 00:54:23,785
for 20, 30 years, however long
he was gone, because he,
787
00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:30,220
he was not welcomed home as a hero
like John and Tommie were
by the rest of the black community.
788
00:54:30,255 --> 00:54:35,740
Harry Edwards, the architect of
the Olympic protests also suffered.
789
00:54:35,775 --> 00:54:37,339
It bothered me that he wasn't
at Mexico City.
790
00:54:37,539 --> 00:54:41,383
First of all it was the question
might he even have survived there
791
00:54:41,384 --> 00:54:45,682
None of them for
example had to deal with
792
00:54:45,717 --> 00:54:49,980
the FBI and other kinds of
pressures,
793
00:54:50,015 --> 00:54:52,825
uh, the surveillance of my home,
794
00:54:52,860 --> 00:54:57,439
in my classes or at the places
that I that I worked.
795
00:54:57,474 --> 00:55:01,984
I was fired, uh, from here,
uh, at San Jose State
796
00:55:02,019 --> 00:55:06,180
right after the Olympic protest so
they didn't have to deal with that.
797
00:55:11,299 --> 00:55:17,700
After spending the '70s in the
wilderness, Tommie and John were
suddenly brought in from the cold.
798
00:55:17,735 --> 00:55:23,579
There was an attempt
to tell a new story about race and
sports in the United States.
799
00:55:23,614 --> 00:55:28,620
It started in the '80s and really
came together with the 1984
Olympic Games.
800
00:55:28,655 --> 00:55:33,505
American optimism is one of its
greatest renewable resources
801
00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:38,860
and, America's lost innocence is
one of those amazing things where
they keep losing it and then
802
00:55:38,895 --> 00:55:43,745
they find it again just in time
to be surprised once more.
803
00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:51,460
So their re-incorporation into
the story really chimes with
how America deals with its past.
804
00:55:51,495 --> 00:55:55,465
The story went from a period
of exclusion to the successes
805
00:55:55,500 --> 00:56:01,180
of Jesse Owens right up through
Tommie Smith and John Carlos's stand
in Mexico City,
806
00:56:01,215 --> 00:56:03,904
and it set in motion
a transformation.
807
00:56:03,939 --> 00:56:11,419
It made Smithy and Carlos heroes of
the Civil Rights Movement rather than
villains of the Black Power phase.
808
00:56:17,179 --> 00:56:23,899
Tommie and John's re-admission
into respectable society was
completed in October 2005
809
00:56:23,934 --> 00:56:30,740
when a statue of their iconic
protest was unveiled at San Jose
State University,
810
00:56:30,775 --> 00:56:32,745
the place it all began.
811
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:35,705
Dr Harry Edwards came and you know,
all the athletes came
812
00:56:35,740 --> 00:56:41,020
and I just grabbed Harry and cried.
People said, "Why's he crying,
hugging that man?", you know?
813
00:56:41,055 --> 00:56:45,820
It wasn't a man I was grabbing, it
was history that I'm holding onto,
814
00:56:45,855 --> 00:56:47,344
he's certainly history.
815
00:56:47,379 --> 00:56:53,499
To see that event in Mexico is to
see the product of Harry's genius
816
00:56:53,534 --> 00:56:55,984
and it really was genius.
817
00:56:56,019 --> 00:57:03,584
Single-handedly he helped to move
individuals who had
no real understanding
818
00:57:03,619 --> 00:57:10,380
of the complexity of these matters
to form a judgment about what they
could do if they were given a chance.
819
00:57:10,415 --> 00:57:16,219
It's not accidental that Smith
and Carlos and Evans took courses
820
00:57:16,254 --> 00:57:19,465
from me here at San Jose State.
821
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:24,419
The struggle in sports
not only made sense,
822
00:57:24,454 --> 00:57:29,304
it became the obligation
of a generation.
823
00:57:29,339 --> 00:57:32,620
One can measure tremendous progress
from that day to this
824
00:57:32,655 --> 00:57:35,505
on the things that they
were demonstrating about,
825
00:57:35,540 --> 00:57:38,779
the treatment of frankly black
people generally in America
826
00:57:38,814 --> 00:57:40,624
and particularly so for athletes.
827
00:57:40,659 --> 00:57:45,232
Tommie Smith and John Carlos were
correct and that's the thing that,
828
00:57:45,233 --> 00:57:48,944
I think, drives alot of
people crazy about this moment,
829
00:57:48,979 --> 00:57:53,339
because it can't be erased from
our collective consciousness
because they were correct.
830
00:57:53,374 --> 00:57:57,904
Those guys did more to change
this country than, than,
831
00:57:57,939 --> 00:58:01,980
than I think we'll ever realise
and I'm glad they're my friends.
832
00:58:02,015 --> 00:58:04,739
# Say it loud
I'm black and proud
833
00:58:06,139 --> 00:58:08,979
# Say it loud
I'm black and proud
834
00:58:09,014 --> 00:58:10,105
# Lordy lordy lordy
835
00:58:10,140 --> 00:58:13,139
# Say it loud
I'm black and proud
836
00:58:18,139 --> 00:58:19,264
# All right now... #
837
00:58:19,299 --> 00:58:21,919
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