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[imperious music]
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[banging]
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[microphone rustling]
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- What's that thing?
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- [Man] I can zoom
and see if it's okay.
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There's a screen over here,
I can see, so I can come in
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for a closeup like that or
I can pull back a little.
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- No, I was talkin' about
the thing on my shirt.
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- [Man] Well,
that's a microphone.
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- Oh, all right.
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- [Narrator] In that
small period of time.
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It is a very small
period of time.
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Wasn't a long, a long history,
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it was like a couple of years.
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Young people were coming up
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and doing things
quite extraordinary.
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It was a movement.
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And Davide was the
epitome of all of it.
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He felt the culture
and was sensitive
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to what was going on
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and he was able to
document it in a picture.
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- Like once a year.
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I go out to Naples and
just hang out with him
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and his like, Italian wife.
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Just have good food
and just hang out
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and drive the scooters around.
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You ever been-- you've
probably been to Italy.
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They have those Vespas and like,
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all the kids in New York,
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everybody gets their
car at graduation.
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The Italian kids
get their Vespas
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and you just cruise
all around the city
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and go in the wrong way out,
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like traffic's going this
way, you'd go that way.
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It's great. [laughs]
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- [Narrator] He was definitely
aware of what was going on
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and how this youth revolution in
music, and fashion,
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art was so important.
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- It's only in
that period of time
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could someone like Davide
have broken through
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because now very few magazines
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would actually give
someone who's 18
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the chance to be
in their magazine.
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It was a true reflection
of a youth movement
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which people who are older
didn't really understand
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moral America agitated.
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- [Barbara] Tonight we
give you a veil look inside
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the glamorous world of
the fashion industry.
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The beautiful images you see
can mask an ugly reality.
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- [Reporter] Davide Sorrenti
was part of a new generation
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of fashion photographers.
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Some blame the younger
photographers for
starting the trend,
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even some of of
Davide Sorrenti's work
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reflects drug imagery.
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- [Jaime] He made
such beautiful work
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but the work did have those
undertones of melancholy
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that people could just
project whatever emotions
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they wanted on to those
images and use his art work.
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- [Richard] It got out of
control, it was a media frenzy.
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- You know, it's
totally disgusting
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how my brothers
name has been like,
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totally, you know,
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I don't know, he's been
totally misunderstood.
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- America's so
like, I don't know,
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kind of brainwashed
by all this media.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, the media has
taken over everything.
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Like, tomorrow, if the media
said something about somebody,
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everybody would believe it.
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[imperious music]
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- I just think that Davide
was born under a special star
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because it's just so odd
that it became so worldwide
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and that his--
after his passing,
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I looked at his creativity,
I looked at his pictures,
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I looked at his art and
no one could hold a candle
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to his work.
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Talk about taking your children
[chuckles] for granted.
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- Okay, check it out.
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Get the page, get the page.
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You got the page?
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This is a spray can,
this is the wall,
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this is spray paint on wall.
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- But he had this--
- That's the A.
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- I don't know, this energy.
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This ability to
draw you toward him.
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So yeah, yeah I
definitely remember him
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because it was the
tone of his voice
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and it was his vernacular
and the things he said.
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His way of expressing himself.
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You couldn't not want to
bend an ear to what the kid
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in the room was saying
because he was hilarious,
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he was charming, and
he was right. [laughs]
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- There was this air about
him that followed him.
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You could feel it and
that was the magic of him
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because he was a street kid
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but yet he lived up in
the stars and the heavens.
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- Davide was the
quintessential B-boy.
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He tagged, he was a
skater and an artist.
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You know, he was a
really prolific artist.
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[melancholic music]
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- He had this foe, thug,
[laughs] gangster way about him
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and the way that he
would speak sometimes
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but I knew at the core
he was just a sweet kid
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but yet at the same
time he was exposed
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to these incredible elite
scenarios being on photo shoots
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with leading fashion
models and working with,
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you know, major fashion brands.
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- [Woman] Really amazing,
actually, to think back.
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His family, how powerfully
influential they were on him
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and on each other.
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- [Man] He comes from a pedigree
of creative visionaries.
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Everybody in the fashion world
knows who the Sorrenti's are.
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- [Man] And they were a very
glamorous group of people.
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They were like Kennedys of
the downtown style scene.
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- We grew up in a
little neighborhood
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just up on the hills of Naples.
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My dad's an artist, he
was painting all the time
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and my mom was sort
of working in fashion
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and it was very, very
free and very young
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and sort of, kind of, like a
hippie lifestyle a little bit.
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- It's not like America, like,
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people actually care
about each other in Italy.
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you know, like, the
people from the windows
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are like, yo, what's up?
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You're like, hey, how
you doing, Mrs. Whatever?
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You know and like they all
look out for each other,
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like, everybody's your
mother or your grandmother.
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In New York, people are like,
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tryin' to kidnap each other's
kids and shit. [chuckles]
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You're like, what the hell.
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- It was very colorful
and crazy at the same time
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and there was so much love.
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And I think that's
what kept us so grounded
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is that we knew that at the
base of everyone's insanity
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there was love, you know?
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And pain because of
Davide's illness.
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- Davide had been
diagnosed with thalassemia
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when he was one.
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[slow music]
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- It was a horrible disease
and children weren't supposed
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to live 'till over
two, three years old.
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I had taken him to the doctor
and the doctor had said,
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at this point, he's very sick,
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you should take him home
and have him die in peace.
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And he looked so drained
and I started to cry.
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It was a pretty
touch-and-go situation.
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He was a normal kid
but he suffered a lot.
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- He had to go through all
sorts of medical procedures,
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transfusions every two
weeks were extremely painful
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and uncomfortable,
and the needles.
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You know, those things
are are really dramatic
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when you're little.
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- [Mario] I remember
taking him to the hospital
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when he was really little,
with my dad and my mom.
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There would be, like,
these long hallways
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and we would hear kids crying
while he got his transfusion,
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which would usually take three
hours or something like that.
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- We would go out and there'd
be people dressed in white
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and he'd start screaming
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because he thought it
was, you know, a doctor.
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Life wasn't easy for him.
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- Every single night he
had to put on his machine
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for his medication.
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Every night he would cry
and I would be in bed
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and I would say, please,
God, let him stop suffering.
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And then I guess he got
more and more used to it
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and became braver and
braver and stopped crying.
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I remember, I remember
when he stopped crying
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and he would put it on himself.
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I'll never forget, he
said, Nina, why is it
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that people hurt
themselves so much
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and I struggle so hard to live?
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And he was really young
when he said that to me.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And it, kind of like,
I was taken by it
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and I was like, whoa,
I didn't expect it.
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And then I thought, I mean,
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that's the way he
thought about things.
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It was always very deep.
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He always saw the
core of a situation
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or a person and why things
were the way they were.
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[imperious music]
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- We came to New York,
I was 10 years old,
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Davide was five years old.
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When my parents separated,
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my mom wanted to come
back to New York.
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The treatment for his illness
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was definitely
more advanced here.
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It was very hard because
we came with nothing.
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My mom came with nothing.
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- I found a small, very
small, one bedroom apartment.
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They slept in the
bedroom and then I slept
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in the living room.
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I have to say, my
Neapolitan chutzpah,
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you know, being
strong, being ballsy,
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really got me through a lot.
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- She was tough, so
it's definitely genetic,
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like, the whole hustling thing.
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She was the big time hustler.
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- [Francesca] Since I was a
single parent, it's always like
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you have to be close, you
know, the one thing you have
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is family and love.
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They were inseparable.
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- [Mario] We had to
overcome the challenges
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in our lives together.
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Davide would like,
cook chicken for us
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while my mother was out working.
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I would pick him up at school
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and I would take
him to the hospital
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when my mother couldn't
take him to the hospital.
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We made it in New York
because we were together.
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- I was in this whole new
like, place, this America,
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and I was like, I just figured
out that Marilyn Monroe
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wasn't Italian and they
like, the voice was dubbed.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, when you're a little
kid, you don't really know
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that like, some
Italian person is like,
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talking over Marilyn's voice
or like, cartoons and stuff.
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And I just came to
America and I was like,
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oh shit we have television,
these people are speaking
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a different language.
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How does that go about?
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I used to get lost on the train
all the time I hated that.
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I was like seven years old
taking the train by myself.
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[imperious music]
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- He was a very
shy child that was
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in this little shell.
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He was like in an
egg or something.
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Maybe it was the
move to New York
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that was a big shock for him.
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- Davide hated it.
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I mean, Davide refused
to speak English.
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Dave just wanted to go home.
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He was so disattached.
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- He knew he was going
to die quite young.
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He knew the older he got,
the closer to the end he was.
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So, he kind of didn't
invest so much.
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And as soon as he
somehow owned it
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and put it behind him and
said hey, you know what,
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I'm gonna live life
the way that I want to.
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I'm not gonna live
life like a sick child.
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I'm gonna live it.
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And that was it.
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It was like, he played
soccer, he roller bladed,
247
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and he had lose bones so
he was really in danger
248
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of really hurting himself.
249
00:14:42,743 --> 00:14:44,297
And he didn't care, he
was like, I love this,
250
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I'm gonna do it and he was
an amazing roller blader.
251
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You know, fearless.
252
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[boisterous music]
253
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- [Mario] My brother
and I would stay out
254
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'till late sometimes
hanging out, skateboarding,
255
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playing basketball in the parks.
256
00:15:06,975 --> 00:15:08,355
New York was different then.
257
00:15:08,390 --> 00:15:10,461
It was a hard city
but it was also cool,
258
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there was also a lot of energy.
259
00:15:12,532 --> 00:15:16,432
- [Vanina] It was
like an amusement park
compared to Italy.
260
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So much youth
culture around you.
261
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- He wrote, gonna be exposed,
262
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at some point or
another to graffiti
263
00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:28,272
and I think in an artistic
family, something about it,
264
00:15:28,306 --> 00:15:29,756
like, struck a chord with us.
265
00:15:29,790 --> 00:15:31,585
It was a way to
express ourselves.
266
00:15:33,518 --> 00:15:36,349
Davide took it
extremely seriously.
267
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You could see his
tag was everywhere.
268
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You couldn't go down a
street without seeing his tag
269
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on a block from uptown
to downtown everywhere.
270
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- He was highly creative.
271
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I remember one night, he was
10, and he asked to borrow
272
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a movie camera and
he shot a piece
273
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with two his fighter dolls.
274
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We were blown away that he
did this whole piece at 10.
275
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And then I remember
another episode,
276
00:16:06,379 --> 00:16:08,381
fighting at school
with the art teacher.
277
00:16:10,452 --> 00:16:12,626
She gave him a really bad grade
278
00:16:12,661 --> 00:16:15,698
because he did this
picture of the sky
279
00:16:15,733 --> 00:16:17,390
and the sky was black.
280
00:16:17,424 --> 00:16:20,565
And she said, you know, skies
are blue they're not black.
281
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,225
And he said, well you know
this is my interpretation.
282
00:16:25,260 --> 00:16:26,986
So she says, no
you do it in blue.
283
00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:30,644
And he says, well my father
said that you do what you feel,
284
00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:32,232
that's what art is about.
285
00:16:36,236 --> 00:16:37,962
- [Woman] So, what's
she like, your mother?
286
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I mean as a photographer,
as a person.
287
00:16:42,449 --> 00:16:45,556
- Like a person that I-- just
like a very strong woman.
288
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:47,627
It was just my mother
and three children.
289
00:16:47,661 --> 00:16:49,594
She was working
at a coffee shop.
290
00:16:49,629 --> 00:16:52,563
And then, but she was
always like, streamlined it
291
00:16:52,597 --> 00:16:54,427
and never like, got freaked out.
292
00:16:54,461 --> 00:16:57,395
So, she was able to like, you
know, she started becoming
293
00:16:57,430 --> 00:17:01,986
a Fashion Stylist and you
know, I know from there,
294
00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:06,266
she got into this whole
like weird fashion thing.
295
00:17:06,301 --> 00:17:10,132
And from there she
was just chillin'.
296
00:17:10,167 --> 00:17:12,928
You know? [chuckles]
297
00:17:17,381 --> 00:17:19,452
- I held so many jobs.
298
00:17:19,486 --> 00:17:20,591
I did everything.
299
00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:23,628
Decorated apartments,
worked as a waitress,
300
00:17:25,630 --> 00:17:27,287
it goes on and on.
301
00:17:27,322 --> 00:17:28,944
And then I had a break.
302
00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,465
My career took off.
303
00:17:32,499 --> 00:17:35,399
[relaxing music]
304
00:17:37,504 --> 00:17:41,094
We had the studio
and the dark room
305
00:17:41,129 --> 00:17:43,200
and all the equipment
and lighting.
306
00:17:44,511 --> 00:17:48,584
It was so natural, it was like
a family business, you know.
307
00:17:48,619 --> 00:17:50,207
And we all played
around with it.
308
00:17:52,657 --> 00:17:55,246
- I knew Davide, I mean, I
really became close to Davide
309
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through Francesca Sorrenti,
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'cause I was close
to his mother.
311
00:17:58,974 --> 00:18:00,217
'Cause I was a stylist then,
312
00:18:00,251 --> 00:18:02,426
Davide would always
want to borrow clothes
313
00:18:02,460 --> 00:18:07,120
and he was just always
interested in things.
314
00:18:07,155 --> 00:18:09,053
- I remember a couple of times
315
00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:12,608
where I had met with Francesca
about a shoot or something
316
00:18:12,643 --> 00:18:15,266
and Davide came with her.
317
00:18:15,301 --> 00:18:17,441
He would camp out in my office
318
00:18:17,475 --> 00:18:19,960
and asked me questions,
questions, questions, questions.
319
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He wanted to see everything.
320
00:18:21,272 --> 00:18:22,480
He had a comment on everything.
321
00:18:22,515 --> 00:18:23,999
He had a ton of energy.
322
00:18:25,552 --> 00:18:30,557
- I am your brother and
your son is my, whatever.
323
00:18:32,249 --> 00:18:34,975
I just wanted to know everything
about everything, kind of.
324
00:18:35,010 --> 00:18:38,427
I just wanted to have, like,
total understanding of things.
325
00:18:38,462 --> 00:18:40,671
I kind of started hanging
out with older people,
326
00:18:40,705 --> 00:18:44,847
like, much older than me, like
some of my friends are 30,
327
00:18:44,882 --> 00:18:47,574
some of them are 26.
328
00:18:47,609 --> 00:18:50,163
I guess it's just because
I'm like fond of 'em
329
00:18:50,198 --> 00:18:51,889
because they know like, a lot.
330
00:18:51,923 --> 00:18:55,064
- He was very oddly worldly.
331
00:18:55,099 --> 00:18:57,653
There was this touch
of juvenile delinquent
332
00:18:57,688 --> 00:19:01,588
meets artistic.
333
00:19:01,623 --> 00:19:04,798
Dave had that charm
wherever we went.
334
00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:08,595
I remember once I went to see
Yves Saint Laurent's show.
335
00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:11,840
[upbeat operatic music]
336
00:19:13,738 --> 00:19:15,533
So very posh.
337
00:19:15,568 --> 00:19:18,985
And we were sitting
there and I remember,
338
00:19:19,019 --> 00:19:21,781
Franca Sozzani from
Italian Vogue there
339
00:19:21,815 --> 00:19:25,198
and she's sitting directly
across the way of the runway.
340
00:19:25,233 --> 00:19:29,616
And he says to me, mom, who's
that beautiful lady across
341
00:19:29,651 --> 00:19:30,824
the room, she's stunning.
342
00:19:30,859 --> 00:19:33,931
I'd love to take a
picture of her. [laughs]
343
00:19:33,965 --> 00:19:35,933
You know, of course,
Franca Sozzani,
344
00:19:35,967 --> 00:19:40,489
everybody, you know, walks on
eggs when they're around her.
345
00:19:40,524 --> 00:19:42,871
But he's staring at her
and she waves to him.
346
00:19:44,252 --> 00:19:46,564
So he goes around
and he sits with her
347
00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:49,567
and I'm thinking,
I'm the photographer,
348
00:19:49,602 --> 00:19:51,707
I've worked for Italian Vogue
349
00:19:51,742 --> 00:19:55,849
and there's my son going
to sit with Franca Sozzani.
350
00:19:55,884 --> 00:19:59,646
And then we go out that night,
and we go to this restaurant
351
00:19:59,681 --> 00:20:03,098
and I see Franca, she's
goes, ciao Davide.
352
00:20:04,272 --> 00:20:06,757
You know and it's
like, come stai?
353
00:20:06,791 --> 00:20:09,794
And I'm like, okay. [laughs]
354
00:20:09,829 --> 00:20:12,176
Davide had that
energy about him.
355
00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:18,562
[radio static]
356
00:20:18,596 --> 00:20:19,977
- Hot 97, you know
what I'm sayin?
357
00:20:20,011 --> 00:20:21,979
We gonna keep it going, keep
it goin' and keep it flowin'.
358
00:20:22,013 --> 00:20:24,223
Then we gonna come back,
with my man Craig Bank
359
00:20:24,257 --> 00:20:26,190
and Biggie Smalls in
the house, a'ight.
360
00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,744
- [Biggie] And South
France in the house.
361
00:20:28,779 --> 00:20:30,988
- [Man] Now, ladies and
gentleman of the radio audience,
362
00:20:31,022 --> 00:20:34,681
it gives me a great pleasure
to introduce you to SKE.
363
00:20:39,203 --> 00:20:42,827
- I had walked into class
one day and I saw this kid
364
00:20:42,862 --> 00:20:46,762
with these bright pink socks.
365
00:20:46,797 --> 00:20:50,249
He just had this whole
cool style about him.
366
00:20:51,836 --> 00:20:53,390
So we just kinda hit it off.
367
00:20:53,424 --> 00:20:56,772
We were both two, like, rascals.
368
00:20:56,807 --> 00:21:00,431
We always liked to play fight
and run around and throw eggs
369
00:21:00,466 --> 00:21:02,088
off the roof of his building.
370
00:21:02,122 --> 00:21:03,986
Just cause a ruckus.
371
00:21:04,021 --> 00:21:05,919
I introduced him to
all my friends downtown
372
00:21:05,954 --> 00:21:10,027
and we kind of put it all
together and formed a crew.
373
00:21:10,061 --> 00:21:12,271
- Like a pack,
it's sort of like,
374
00:21:12,305 --> 00:21:15,653
the teenage rat pack
[chuckles] that's sort of
375
00:21:15,688 --> 00:21:17,483
how I saw them as a group.
376
00:21:18,829 --> 00:21:21,003
- Definitely he's someone
that you didn't forget.
377
00:21:21,038 --> 00:21:24,490
Like a first meeting with
him left something with you
378
00:21:24,524 --> 00:21:25,939
that you took away.
379
00:21:25,974 --> 00:21:29,702
- Real into art and being
creative and into graffiti
380
00:21:29,736 --> 00:21:32,256
and photography and style.
381
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:33,947
It was always about style.
382
00:21:33,982 --> 00:21:37,330
- Before I had met Dave
and I had seen his tag,
383
00:21:37,365 --> 00:21:40,713
I had imagined that he was
like this big tall dude,
384
00:21:40,747 --> 00:21:45,476
like, huge, jacked because
all his tags were so high
385
00:21:45,511 --> 00:21:47,340
and in all these crazy places.
386
00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:50,757
So you'd just imagined that
whoever is doing this has balls.
387
00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:56,280
Then when I met him, he
was just this little dude.
388
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,662
- You know, when we first
met, to be honest with you,
389
00:21:58,696 --> 00:22:00,974
like I thought he was
somebody's little brother.
390
00:22:02,873 --> 00:22:06,117
But his personality
was fucking huge
391
00:22:06,152 --> 00:22:08,568
and his voice was even massive.
392
00:22:08,603 --> 00:22:10,536
He had like an old man's voice.
393
00:22:10,570 --> 00:22:11,709
Yo, what's up?
394
00:22:11,744 --> 00:22:14,850
Yo, Dick, what are you doing?
395
00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:16,542
Pass the blunt.
396
00:22:16,576 --> 00:22:17,784
He had this kind of weird like,
397
00:22:17,819 --> 00:22:21,823
Italian meets downtown voice.
398
00:22:23,928 --> 00:22:25,344
- Dave was definitely
at the forefront
399
00:22:25,378 --> 00:22:27,725
of that kind of
sense of adventure.
400
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,209
It was Friday night
and I'd say, bye, Ma.
401
00:22:29,244 --> 00:22:30,383
And I'd go out the front door
402
00:22:30,418 --> 00:22:33,317
and I had no idea
where we were gonna go.
403
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,561
- You know, I didn't know
if I was gonna get punched
404
00:22:35,595 --> 00:22:38,460
in the face, I didn't
know if I was gonna end up
on some crazy adventure,
405
00:22:38,495 --> 00:22:40,497
I didn't know if I was gonna
be runnin' from the cops.
406
00:22:40,531 --> 00:22:42,499
I really didn't know
what was gonna happen.
407
00:22:42,533 --> 00:22:45,640
- We skateboarded, we roller
bladed, we wrote graffiti.
408
00:22:46,917 --> 00:22:49,126
- [Ivan] We really just
ran around like maniacs.
409
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,784
Uptown, downtown,
west side, east side,
410
00:22:51,818 --> 00:22:56,064
just, we ran the city like
we just straight ran shit.
411
00:22:57,134 --> 00:22:57,997
- [Ivan] And there was something
412
00:22:58,031 --> 00:22:59,308
that we really relished in being
413
00:22:59,343 --> 00:23:01,414
bad boys and we liked
having that reputation.
414
00:23:04,866 --> 00:23:08,248
[grinding and rustling]
415
00:23:17,637 --> 00:23:21,192
- With his graffiti, basically
one time we got called in,
416
00:23:21,227 --> 00:23:25,921
he was, police had him in
the subway station precinct
417
00:23:25,956 --> 00:23:28,648
and we went in to pick him up
418
00:23:28,683 --> 00:23:29,822
and said, what did he do?
419
00:23:29,856 --> 00:23:31,789
He was writing graffiti.
420
00:23:32,963 --> 00:23:34,827
One cop started
chucklin' and we're like,
421
00:23:34,861 --> 00:23:36,242
well, where did he do it?
422
00:23:36,276 --> 00:23:38,244
And he's like, he was doing
it right on the front door of
423
00:23:38,278 --> 00:23:40,419
the subway entrance
to the precinct.
424
00:23:40,453 --> 00:23:43,629
Davide was writing his tag
and the cop opened the door
425
00:23:43,663 --> 00:23:45,976
[chuckles] and was like,
what are you, stupid?
426
00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:50,808
["Shook Ones Part II" by
Mobb Deep ft. Everlast]
427
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:52,776
♪ Yeah
428
00:23:52,810 --> 00:23:54,605
♪ To all the killers and
the hundred dollar billas ♪
429
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,813
♪ Dealers, check it out now
430
00:23:55,848 --> 00:23:57,953
- Argue as his tag,
fit him perfectly.
431
00:23:57,988 --> 00:23:59,886
- Yeah.
- Like, he was just a mad,
432
00:23:59,921 --> 00:24:01,854
- arguing ass nigga.
433
00:24:01,888 --> 00:24:04,097
Here's the A, you
know what I'm sayin?
434
00:24:04,132 --> 00:24:08,067
The R, which blends into the G.
435
00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:13,866
- [Ivan] The core of a lot of
our camaraderie was graffiti.
436
00:24:15,074 --> 00:24:18,387
- The essence of it was
exposure and notoriety
437
00:24:18,422 --> 00:24:19,630
and like, fame.
438
00:24:19,665 --> 00:24:21,460
- That's kind of,
where like Dave,
439
00:24:21,494 --> 00:24:24,497
I'm sure got a lot of
his vision for fashion.
440
00:24:24,532 --> 00:24:27,120
What a perfect tag
for that little shit.
441
00:24:28,674 --> 00:24:31,780
- Always like, in your face,
like counter to everything.
442
00:24:31,815 --> 00:24:34,024
It's such an argue, fucker.
443
00:24:34,058 --> 00:24:36,302
Yeah, perfect tag for Dave.
444
00:24:37,855 --> 00:24:42,135
I remember the day that he was
kind of declared as the crew.
445
00:24:42,170 --> 00:24:44,068
- Davide wanted to
switch it to where
446
00:24:44,103 --> 00:24:47,520
the crew was part of your tag.
447
00:24:47,555 --> 00:24:51,006
- And you know, they
probably spent a ton of time
448
00:24:51,041 --> 00:24:55,494
just trying to figure out how
to make SKE like, something.
449
00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:57,323
- We thought it was like cooler
450
00:24:57,357 --> 00:24:59,290
and the next level of graffiti.
451
00:24:59,325 --> 00:25:02,949
- And then once you
had the initials
452
00:25:02,984 --> 00:25:05,711
then you started to think
of what it could mean.
453
00:25:05,745 --> 00:25:07,851
- When we were younger, I
guess it was Some Kids Envied
454
00:25:07,885 --> 00:25:10,025
because all the kids,
like, we would be like,
455
00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:11,371
oh they all envy us.
456
00:25:11,406 --> 00:25:13,373
When we got a little bit
older, it would be like,
457
00:25:13,408 --> 00:25:16,031
See Know Evil because we
understood what evil was
458
00:25:16,066 --> 00:25:18,517
and we could see it and
we know what it was.
459
00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:21,968
So, it would be like,
See and Know Evil.
460
00:25:22,003 --> 00:25:22,797
- Okay.
461
00:25:30,943 --> 00:25:33,635
- Everybody here was put
on to marijuana by Dave.
462
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:35,534
- Fucking Dave.
- That first time.
463
00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:37,777
- He wasn't really scared
to experiment with drugs.
464
00:25:37,812 --> 00:25:40,159
- He's not even scared
of just with life.
465
00:25:40,193 --> 00:25:41,747
You know what I'm sayin'?
466
00:25:41,781 --> 00:25:43,162
Like, there are people who
worry about what they're gonna
do,
467
00:25:43,196 --> 00:25:46,648
like, I find myself
bothering my mind about,
468
00:25:46,683 --> 00:25:47,960
oh what am I gonna be?
469
00:25:47,994 --> 00:25:49,202
Am I gonna be successful?
470
00:25:49,237 --> 00:25:51,377
Am I gonna have a
life when I get older?
471
00:25:51,411 --> 00:25:53,206
Dave didn't care.
472
00:25:54,691 --> 00:25:57,072
He wasn't worried about what
was gonna happen to him.
473
00:25:57,107 --> 00:25:59,074
In fact, whatever was
going on it right now,
474
00:25:59,109 --> 00:26:00,317
that's the best enough to him.
475
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,912
[splashing]
476
00:26:10,051 --> 00:26:11,535
- What?
477
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:14,573
- [Richie] He was fearless,
he was so fearless.
478
00:26:16,057 --> 00:26:17,886
A lot of people who knew
Davide didn't know he had
479
00:26:17,921 --> 00:26:19,543
the disease and he didn't
act like he had a disease,
480
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:22,235
he didn't act like he was sick,
he didn't act like he needed
481
00:26:22,270 --> 00:26:25,031
to sleep every night with
a thing that pumped iron
482
00:26:25,066 --> 00:26:27,793
into his blood and
he kinda hid that.
483
00:26:27,827 --> 00:26:30,243
- [Francesca] You know, he
wasn't about to tell his friends
484
00:26:30,278 --> 00:26:32,004
that his legs were killing him
485
00:26:32,038 --> 00:26:36,284
and that his stomach was
upset or his back hurt him.
486
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:39,701
- One day we were at his house,
487
00:26:39,736 --> 00:26:41,979
we started like play
fighting and all the sudden
488
00:26:42,014 --> 00:26:45,258
he took one of his syringes,
filled it up with water,
489
00:26:45,293 --> 00:26:47,398
and he started spraying
it like a water gun.
490
00:26:47,433 --> 00:26:49,953
And he's spraying me, and
spraying me, and spraying me.
491
00:26:49,987 --> 00:26:54,129
Like an idiot, I
grabbed the knife
492
00:26:54,164 --> 00:26:56,649
and I just went to like
reflect that like, water
493
00:26:56,684 --> 00:26:59,859
and I stuck the knife
right in his wrist
494
00:27:00,964 --> 00:27:03,000
and it just stuck there.
495
00:27:03,035 --> 00:27:05,969
I literally started
crying and running around.
496
00:27:06,003 --> 00:27:08,005
But he was just cool as a
whistle, he was just like,
497
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,180
wow, this is fucking crazy.
498
00:27:10,214 --> 00:27:12,182
So, I called Fran and
she started screaming
499
00:27:12,216 --> 00:27:13,390
on the other phone.
500
00:27:13,424 --> 00:27:15,703
She ran to the house, we
took him to the hospital.
501
00:27:16,704 --> 00:27:19,499
From that moment on, I
kind of knew the extent
502
00:27:19,534 --> 00:27:23,503
of his disease and his
mom had told me like,
503
00:27:23,538 --> 00:27:25,678
you really can't play
fight with Davide
504
00:27:25,713 --> 00:27:27,059
and you really
can't rough him up
505
00:27:27,093 --> 00:27:29,233
'cause he loses blood cells.
506
00:27:29,268 --> 00:27:30,959
So, after that I
kinda got a lesson,
507
00:27:30,994 --> 00:27:32,512
a little bit about what it was.
508
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,516
- Even though he looked
five years younger
509
00:27:36,551 --> 00:27:38,173
on the inside his
organs were like
510
00:27:38,208 --> 00:27:39,865
a 50 year old man's organs.
511
00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:43,109
'Cause they deteriorate
at such a speed.
512
00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:46,837
Nobody saw that, nobody
would even imagine it
513
00:27:46,872 --> 00:27:49,426
for one second even,
'cause he was so young.
514
00:27:50,945 --> 00:27:53,913
- [Richie] He would sleep over
at my house and he would come
515
00:27:55,156 --> 00:27:58,159
with his machine that
he had to sleep with.
516
00:28:00,264 --> 00:28:03,164
And I think to see that
was a little bit scary.
517
00:28:04,096 --> 00:28:05,649
That like, this kid had to sleep
518
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,133
with this thing on every night.
519
00:28:12,069 --> 00:28:14,209
- Main thing of the disease
is I'm missing the gene
520
00:28:14,244 --> 00:28:16,487
that makes healthy
red blood cells.
521
00:28:16,522 --> 00:28:18,351
Red blood cell is
the cell that carries
522
00:28:18,386 --> 00:28:20,664
the oxygen through the body.
523
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,321
Without that, we're dead.
524
00:28:23,529 --> 00:28:26,118
I met Davide at The
New York Hospital.
525
00:28:26,152 --> 00:28:29,431
We were teenagers and we
were getting transfused.
526
00:28:29,466 --> 00:28:31,744
We were going through
what other teenagers
527
00:28:31,779 --> 00:28:33,021
were going through,
528
00:28:33,056 --> 00:28:35,161
except we were getting
transfused every 14 days
529
00:28:35,196 --> 00:28:38,855
but that built such a
commodity between us.
530
00:28:40,097 --> 00:28:42,479
We had so much fun.
531
00:28:42,513 --> 00:28:47,449
We just laughed and these
were long days, 10, 11 hours.
532
00:28:47,484 --> 00:28:51,108
I remember sometimes we would
get done 10:30 at night,
533
00:28:51,143 --> 00:28:52,938
11 o'clock at night.
534
00:28:52,972 --> 00:28:55,147
We would joke around, we
should just bring out pillows.
535
00:28:55,181 --> 00:28:57,770
'Cause everything had
to be a joke with us.
536
00:28:59,289 --> 00:29:02,499
It made time go faster,
if we laughed, you know,
537
00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:04,915
throughout the
transfusion treatment.
538
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:09,955
So, there was a joke sometimes
like, who's the next one?
539
00:29:11,197 --> 00:29:13,268
Who's the next one
that's gonna die?
That was a joke.
540
00:29:13,303 --> 00:29:14,891
Who is the next one?
541
00:29:18,895 --> 00:29:21,345
- I started taking
pictures in New York.
542
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:26,385
I practiced for a few years
before I was modeling in Europe.
543
00:29:28,421 --> 00:29:32,805
- First time I met Mario was
because I'd become friendly
544
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,325
with David Simms
through The Dark Room
545
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:40,364
and he had met Mario and Mario
didn't really know anyone
546
00:29:41,193 --> 00:29:43,126
in London and so David said,
547
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,577
can you hang out
with him, basically.
548
00:29:46,612 --> 00:29:48,303
So, I invited him to my house.
549
00:29:48,338 --> 00:29:50,719
And we pretty much
hung out every day.
550
00:29:50,754 --> 00:29:53,584
And then he said to me,
I just met this girl,
551
00:29:53,619 --> 00:29:54,516
she's really cute.
552
00:29:54,551 --> 00:29:55,552
And it was Kate.
553
00:29:56,967 --> 00:29:58,313
And then he took
pictures of Kate
554
00:29:58,348 --> 00:30:01,385
and then he got hired at
Calvin and then his career,
555
00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:02,593
just sort of took off.
556
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:06,459
[beeping]
557
00:30:08,082 --> 00:30:09,359
It was so fast.
558
00:30:09,393 --> 00:30:11,395
He looked like he was
really prepared for it.
559
00:30:12,569 --> 00:30:14,122
And I would say the
same thing about Davide.
560
00:30:14,157 --> 00:30:17,263
They both had an inner
confidence on set straight away
561
00:30:17,298 --> 00:30:19,403
that was kind of unflappable.
562
00:30:20,888 --> 00:30:23,752
- When I met Mario, the
way the fashion photography
563
00:30:23,787 --> 00:30:25,478
was done at that
particular time,
564
00:30:25,513 --> 00:30:27,446
was it was very glossy.
565
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,208
It was all about these
big herculean girls,
566
00:30:31,243 --> 00:30:34,073
big hairdos, big shoulder pads,
567
00:30:34,108 --> 00:30:35,937
and there was a
movement from Europe,
568
00:30:35,972 --> 00:30:39,941
which basically had a whole
group of younger photographers
569
00:30:39,976 --> 00:30:42,841
who were influenced by
the grunge movement here.
570
00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:46,396
The emerging sensibility
was kind of a reaction
571
00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:49,226
to an existing establishment.
572
00:30:49,261 --> 00:30:53,713
["Smells Like Teen
Spirit" by Nirvana]
573
00:31:02,343 --> 00:31:05,173
- It was a funny
period in fashion.
574
00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:09,005
At that time a lot of Europeans
were coming to New York,
575
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:10,834
bringing a new sense of style
576
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:15,011
and a new way of making
pictures that was very fresh.
577
00:31:15,045 --> 00:31:18,911
[camera shutter clicking]
578
00:31:18,946 --> 00:31:21,500
- If you think about the
world that we live in today,
579
00:31:21,534 --> 00:31:23,295
it was born in the 90's.
580
00:31:23,329 --> 00:31:26,332
That was really a
New York moment.
581
00:31:26,367 --> 00:31:29,439
- It was like some of the
little Teutonic plates shifting
582
00:31:29,473 --> 00:31:32,338
when everyone suddenly
moved to New York.
583
00:31:32,373 --> 00:31:33,926
Rent wasn't that expensive.
584
00:31:33,961 --> 00:31:35,410
There was a lot of opportunity
585
00:31:35,445 --> 00:31:37,619
and there was a lot
of young people.
586
00:31:37,654 --> 00:31:39,311
Although none of
us would admit it,
587
00:31:39,345 --> 00:31:41,278
we were wildly ambitious
588
00:31:41,313 --> 00:31:43,418
and New York's a great
place for ambition.
589
00:31:43,453 --> 00:31:45,041
- [Mutale] It's
done become a magnet
590
00:31:45,075 --> 00:31:47,526
for all these kind
of artistic people
591
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,046
who are being put in
positions of power
592
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,496
within corporate
structures in America.
593
00:31:52,531 --> 00:31:55,223
New York started being
more of a center for people
594
00:31:55,258 --> 00:31:57,432
to come and practice the work.
595
00:31:57,467 --> 00:31:58,675
- And it was a
real kinetic energy
596
00:31:58,709 --> 00:32:00,919
and a feeling that
something was happening.
597
00:32:00,953 --> 00:32:03,369
[rock music]
598
00:32:05,406 --> 00:32:07,028
- So many extremes
have been pushed.
599
00:32:07,063 --> 00:32:10,652
I mean, you can't be any more
death than Death or Slayer.
600
00:32:10,687 --> 00:32:13,897
I have to kill myself, you
know, to really get a reaction.
601
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:16,382
- That was a period
that young people said,
602
00:32:16,417 --> 00:32:19,316
we don't want this, we
don't want it at all.
603
00:32:19,351 --> 00:32:20,766
And they were rebelling.
604
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,907
♪ Go on, take everything, take
everything I want you to ♪
605
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:26,910
- Maybe it was Kurt
Cobain and Nirvana.
606
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:30,810
Whole kind of Seattle scene
was really influential.
607
00:32:30,845 --> 00:32:32,674
- Everything you can say
about the 80's, you know,
608
00:32:32,709 --> 00:32:34,953
had an opposite
reaction in the 90's.
609
00:32:34,987 --> 00:32:36,368
- [Jaime] It was
just very different
610
00:32:36,402 --> 00:32:37,990
and it was very exciting.
611
00:32:38,025 --> 00:32:40,544
You could see that, like,
the landscape of things
612
00:32:40,579 --> 00:32:42,167
were changing in every way.
613
00:32:42,201 --> 00:32:46,965
- There was the one from like--
614
00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:47,896
- Throw ???
615
00:32:47,931 --> 00:32:49,381
- 9:30 to 3:00.
616
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,352
I don't have to tell you
to press play, do you?
617
00:32:59,149 --> 00:33:02,325
- Davide's photography
started to blossom
618
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,949
after Mario was hailed,
as sort of like,
619
00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,433
a little bit of a wunderkind.
620
00:33:10,057 --> 00:33:11,403
- He really looked up to me
621
00:33:11,437 --> 00:33:14,578
and he really emulated
everything that I did.
622
00:33:16,132 --> 00:33:18,617
- [Francesca] Well, Mario was
always an influence on Davide.
623
00:33:20,032 --> 00:33:24,209
When Mario was into
modeling and keeping himself
624
00:33:24,243 --> 00:33:28,351
with model appearance, Dave
felt he had to do that too
625
00:33:29,248 --> 00:33:32,527
and then Mario started to shoot
626
00:33:32,562 --> 00:33:34,150
and showed him the camera
627
00:33:34,184 --> 00:33:37,394
and he realized he
loved the camera too.
628
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:42,468
- He kinda wanted what we
had, you know what I mean?
629
00:33:42,503 --> 00:33:45,540
He was kind of sick of being
at home on his machine,
630
00:33:45,575 --> 00:33:48,957
being restricted, he
wanted a life for himself.
631
00:33:48,992 --> 00:33:50,580
And he saw what we were doing
632
00:33:50,614 --> 00:33:53,617
and I think he saw that
as a vehicle for himself.
633
00:33:54,894 --> 00:33:57,863
- [David] So, Davide
sort of took advantage
634
00:33:57,897 --> 00:34:00,590
of the opportunity of being
Mario's younger brother
635
00:34:00,624 --> 00:34:04,145
and would tag along
on sets so he got to,
636
00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:06,837
kind of, get into that world.
637
00:34:06,872 --> 00:34:10,600
- Davide was into photography
because he born into it.
638
00:34:10,634 --> 00:34:12,222
It was all around him.
639
00:34:12,257 --> 00:34:16,364
So, he was like, the next
up and more raw with it.
640
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:19,402
[melancholic music]
641
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:24,027
- [Vanina] He was never
concerned with his style.
642
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,029
It was already
there and defined.
643
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:28,514
It was just about capturing it.
644
00:34:34,486 --> 00:34:37,040
- [Mario] Davide
was a New York kid.
645
00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:39,284
The way he approached
photography was probably
646
00:34:39,318 --> 00:34:41,493
the same way the he approached
the streets, you know,
647
00:34:41,527 --> 00:34:44,289
and the way he
approached graffiti.
648
00:34:44,323 --> 00:34:47,085
He just kind of went into
it and he charmed it.
649
00:34:50,502 --> 00:34:54,299
- [Chris] Dave understood
the idea of style
650
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:55,645
before a lot of people our age.
651
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,683
And when I say style I
don't mean fashion, I mean,
652
00:34:59,718 --> 00:35:01,858
the idea that you can do
something a certain way
653
00:35:01,892 --> 00:35:03,446
and give it certain properties
654
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,758
and if you do it
with enough finesse,
655
00:35:05,793 --> 00:35:06,759
then it's awesome.
656
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,359
- Seemed to me like a real honor
657
00:35:20,394 --> 00:35:23,535
when Dave decided that
you were part of the group
658
00:35:23,569 --> 00:35:26,745
or part of his life, that he
would waste the frame on you.
659
00:35:26,779 --> 00:35:30,300
He had, like, a sensitivity
to those experiences
660
00:35:30,335 --> 00:35:33,579
in those situations that
allowed him to appreciate,
661
00:35:33,614 --> 00:35:35,892
you know, really with
what was going on.
662
00:35:35,926 --> 00:35:38,722
Maybe his health
situation contributed
663
00:35:38,757 --> 00:35:42,795
to him feeling like he
needed to really hold on
664
00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:44,556
to those moments.
665
00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:48,353
- His work has that feeling
of hanging with him.
666
00:35:48,387 --> 00:35:49,733
There's always
this certain light
667
00:35:49,768 --> 00:35:50,976
that seemed kind of magical.
668
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:53,151
I went over to his house
after school one day
669
00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:56,913
and just seen all his
work on the walls.
670
00:35:56,947 --> 00:36:00,951
I think there was such a
mix of photos of skaters,
671
00:36:00,986 --> 00:36:05,335
and graffiti writers,
and thugs, and models,
672
00:36:05,370 --> 00:36:06,992
and it was just all his life.
673
00:36:07,026 --> 00:36:08,614
It was all one thing.
674
00:36:08,649 --> 00:36:10,685
Reportage photography.
675
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,587
- He lived with this
fearlessness that I
think came from him
676
00:36:15,621 --> 00:36:19,142
not being afraid to live
because he could die.
677
00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:23,836
I remember being so terrified
everyday of everything,
678
00:36:23,871 --> 00:36:27,323
you know, I was so uncomfortable
that I was gonna like,
679
00:36:27,357 --> 00:36:30,049
say the wrong thing
or do the wrong thing
680
00:36:30,084 --> 00:36:33,570
and here was this
character who seemed
681
00:36:33,605 --> 00:36:35,607
to kind of rise
above all of that.
682
00:36:35,641 --> 00:36:38,748
- And even though I
was dating his brother,
683
00:36:38,782 --> 00:36:41,751
it was like Davide's
mission to make sure
684
00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:43,339
that we were always cuddling.
685
00:36:43,373 --> 00:36:47,239
And Mario was always like,
Davide, get off my girl.
686
00:36:47,274 --> 00:36:51,243
- Dave be like, yeah
whatever. [laughs]
687
00:36:53,901 --> 00:36:57,007
- I mean, being a teenager
is both the most awesome
688
00:36:57,042 --> 00:36:58,664
and the worst thing in the world
689
00:36:58,699 --> 00:37:01,184
it's awesome because you
feel totally invincible
690
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:03,255
and it's the worst
because you're a teenager
691
00:37:03,290 --> 00:37:04,877
and dumb as shit.
692
00:37:04,912 --> 00:37:08,709
- There is definitely some
questionable choices made,
693
00:37:09,779 --> 00:37:11,746
let's put it that way.
694
00:37:11,781 --> 00:37:13,610
- So once, Dave had
been in the hospital
695
00:37:13,645 --> 00:37:15,474
for a collapsed lung.
696
00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:18,960
So he couldn't smoke weed
'cause his lungs were collapsed,
697
00:37:18,995 --> 00:37:22,654
so we got a bunch of
shrooms and we decided
698
00:37:22,688 --> 00:37:23,827
we're gonna eat these
shrooms and go up
699
00:37:23,862 --> 00:37:25,622
to the Museum of
Natural History.
700
00:37:28,142 --> 00:37:31,249
At some point we wind up
in the Hall of Mammals.
701
00:37:32,388 --> 00:37:33,734
We're like, buggin'
out up there.
702
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:38,773
Dave noticed the walrus
diorama and for some reason
703
00:37:38,808 --> 00:37:41,983
he found the walruses to
be the most amusing things
704
00:37:42,018 --> 00:37:43,537
he had ever seen in his life.
705
00:37:44,848 --> 00:37:47,299
So he starts laughing
and he's trying to get us
706
00:37:47,334 --> 00:37:48,714
to look at the
walruses but I remember
707
00:37:48,749 --> 00:37:51,683
he was laughing so hard
that he couldn't talk,
708
00:37:51,717 --> 00:37:55,687
plus he had had a collapsed
lung like a week or two earlier
709
00:37:55,721 --> 00:37:58,586
and so he was having
a hard time breathing.
710
00:37:58,621 --> 00:38:01,624
The next thing I know he
fucking walks backwards,
711
00:38:01,658 --> 00:38:03,315
stumbles over the guardrail
712
00:38:03,350 --> 00:38:05,662
and falls into the
walrus diorama,
713
00:38:05,697 --> 00:38:07,802
which we all think is
the most hilarious thing
714
00:38:07,837 --> 00:38:09,079
that's ever happened.
715
00:38:10,357 --> 00:38:12,497
So we're like literally,
I don't mean figuratively,
716
00:38:12,531 --> 00:38:15,362
we're literally rolling
around on the floor laughing
717
00:38:16,742 --> 00:38:21,195
and then we get up and we
realize Dave's not moving.
718
00:38:24,371 --> 00:38:25,924
So we're like, yo Dave, get up.
719
00:38:27,063 --> 00:38:28,858
Yo, Dave, get up.
720
00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:30,446
And Dave's fucking passed out
721
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,793
in the walrus
diorama, eyes open.
722
00:38:33,932 --> 00:38:35,623
I immediately thought
like, holy shit,
723
00:38:35,658 --> 00:38:37,832
this is a fucking
after school special.
724
00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:40,939
Like, our friend's gonna
die in the walrus diorama
725
00:38:40,973 --> 00:38:42,699
'cause fucking did
mushrooms and went
726
00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:44,874
to the Museum of
Natural History.
727
00:38:44,908 --> 00:38:48,705
So, we all started
panicking, fucking panicking
728
00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:50,776
and literally running
around in circles.
729
00:38:50,811 --> 00:38:53,503
I think somebody was trying
to find a security guard,
730
00:38:53,538 --> 00:38:55,919
somebody else was like
trying to call 9-1-1.
731
00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:01,787
And then Dave just kinda
sat up and he was like,
732
00:39:01,822 --> 00:39:02,892
yo, let's get out of here.
733
00:39:02,926 --> 00:39:05,308
And we got in a cab
and we went home.
734
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,448
Like, that was the kind
of shit that would happen
735
00:39:07,483 --> 00:39:09,174
on a semi-regular basis.
736
00:39:09,208 --> 00:39:12,004
[whimsical music]
737
00:39:14,006 --> 00:39:16,492
- Dave was part of
this pack of boys
738
00:39:16,526 --> 00:39:18,286
that I would always
see running around
739
00:39:18,321 --> 00:39:20,392
the building of my parents.
740
00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:23,361
At some point we just kind
of introduced ourselves
741
00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:26,605
'cause you know, all those
boys were very sort of cute,
742
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,816
and charming, and mischievous,
and intriguing to me.
743
00:39:30,851 --> 00:39:33,371
I really fondly remember
Davide calling me
744
00:39:33,405 --> 00:39:37,133
whenever he would wake
up, which was never early.
745
00:39:38,583 --> 00:39:41,517
He would ask me to buy him a
chipwich at the deli downstairs
746
00:39:41,551 --> 00:39:45,313
from his house and I would
and we would just go hang out
747
00:39:45,348 --> 00:39:46,763
in his room and talk.
748
00:39:52,459 --> 00:39:55,323
I was just, kind of, messing
around with the idea of being
749
00:39:55,358 --> 00:39:58,810
a stylist and I saw his
journal, he showed it to me
750
00:39:58,844 --> 00:40:02,434
and I just suggested that
we do a project together.
751
00:40:03,608 --> 00:40:05,541
He helped me, I helped him
752
00:40:05,575 --> 00:40:07,991
and it just all kind
of started from there.
753
00:40:09,234 --> 00:40:13,031
I remember like the
first major project
754
00:40:13,065 --> 00:40:15,758
that we worked on
together, he had this idea
755
00:40:15,792 --> 00:40:18,070
that he wanted to
shoot his friends
756
00:40:18,105 --> 00:40:21,004
doing all of their
amazing tricks
757
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:25,284
in these very refined suits.
758
00:40:26,803 --> 00:40:29,737
I pulled a ton of
really nice menswear
759
00:40:29,772 --> 00:40:31,843
and we put them all in it.
760
00:40:31,877 --> 00:40:36,882
His stepdad, Steve, drove us
around in their maroon minivan.
761
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:40,817
I just have this memory of
like, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
762
00:40:40,852 --> 00:40:44,476
and just riding around
with a bunch of wild boys
763
00:40:44,511 --> 00:40:45,995
and they just went crazy.
764
00:40:46,029 --> 00:40:47,617
♪ Foe tha' love of money
765
00:40:47,652 --> 00:40:49,308
♪ Gotta make that money, man
766
00:40:49,343 --> 00:40:50,896
♪ It's still the same now
767
00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:53,243
♪ Gotta make that money, man
768
00:40:53,278 --> 00:40:54,831
♪ Gotta get on the grind
769
00:40:54,866 --> 00:40:56,833
♪ Pop in the clip of my nine
770
00:40:56,868 --> 00:40:58,179
And it got published.
771
00:40:58,214 --> 00:41:00,872
And that was huge
exposure for both of us
772
00:41:00,906 --> 00:41:03,806
and it happened in
the most organic way.
773
00:41:05,221 --> 00:41:08,293
That was kind of the
beginning of our relationship,
774
00:41:08,327 --> 00:41:10,433
I guess, from a
professional standpoint,
775
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:12,504
if you would call it that.
776
00:41:12,539 --> 00:41:15,058
Even though we were working,
it never felt like work.
777
00:41:15,093 --> 00:41:17,992
Like, we would just hang
out, ideas would be born
778
00:41:18,027 --> 00:41:19,994
and they would come to life.
779
00:41:20,029 --> 00:41:24,136
He would always just kind of
take me on these adventures.
780
00:41:24,171 --> 00:41:26,069
I always felt like I was
with my little brother
781
00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:28,175
and we were going
on these missions.
782
00:41:34,664 --> 00:41:36,355
- He's like a little
boss in a way.
783
00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,221
- Our whole crew
is very ambitious,
784
00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:42,534
whether it's starting
a clothing line,
785
00:41:42,569 --> 00:41:46,538
or starting a rap group,
or throwing parties,
786
00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:48,264
or selling drugs.
787
00:41:48,298 --> 00:41:51,854
Whatever it was, everybody
was super ambitious.
788
00:41:51,888 --> 00:41:54,477
- They were very, like,
business suvvy, in a way.
789
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:55,858
They were able to capitalize
790
00:41:55,892 --> 00:41:58,274
on everything that
they were doing.
791
00:41:58,308 --> 00:42:00,932
- We are, I don't
know how to say it
792
00:42:00,966 --> 00:42:03,037
without sounding like an
asshole but like, we were cool.
793
00:42:03,072 --> 00:42:04,314
You know what I mean?
794
00:42:04,349 --> 00:42:06,385
Like, we had this sense
that people started
795
00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:08,836
to be interested in the
things that we were telling
796
00:42:08,871 --> 00:42:10,251
them were cool
797
00:42:10,286 --> 00:42:11,529
- And then we did these things.
798
00:42:11,563 --> 00:42:13,047
Sorry to get out of the picture.
799
00:42:13,082 --> 00:42:16,948
Because of Davide, you
know, we did this infamous
800
00:42:16,982 --> 00:42:21,987
sticker that like, bong,
Davide was always around models
801
00:42:23,713 --> 00:42:26,095
and we were those punk
kids with the attitudes,
802
00:42:26,129 --> 00:42:29,650
and fuck the system, and fuck
the world, and all that shit.
803
00:42:29,685 --> 00:42:31,963
So, it was like, you
know, fuck models.
804
00:42:31,997 --> 00:42:33,067
Models suck.
805
00:42:33,102 --> 00:42:34,586
Through that, we made
the models suck shirts,
806
00:42:34,621 --> 00:42:37,106
we gave 'em to models,
that started picking up,
807
00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:38,383
blowing up.
808
00:42:38,417 --> 00:42:40,109
We would always just
wanna create buzz.
809
00:42:40,143 --> 00:42:43,940
Any time we went bombing or
we had a group of kids skating
810
00:42:43,975 --> 00:42:47,081
or skateboarding, like Hal
Hunter and all these kids,
811
00:42:47,116 --> 00:42:48,393
we'd give them a
bunch of stickers
812
00:42:48,427 --> 00:42:49,946
and they would plaster
them all over the city.
813
00:42:49,981 --> 00:42:52,708
Like, before you knew
it, it was everywhere.
814
00:42:53,985 --> 00:42:56,919
There was a story in Vogue
that said Calvin Klein
815
00:42:56,953 --> 00:43:00,923
was sabotaging his own ads
with these models suck stickers
816
00:43:00,957 --> 00:43:02,234
to create buzz.
817
00:43:02,269 --> 00:43:04,616
So, we called up that
person who wrote the article
818
00:43:04,651 --> 00:43:06,100
and we were like,
are you kidding me?
819
00:43:06,135 --> 00:43:08,655
That's not Calvin
Klein, that's us.
820
00:43:10,139 --> 00:43:12,141
The next month they corrected
it and said it was us.
821
00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:18,009
- New York magazine talked
about the group, the SKE group.
822
00:43:18,043 --> 00:43:22,151
They were the beginning of
their own youth movement within
823
00:43:22,185 --> 00:43:23,428
the fashion industry.
824
00:43:28,019 --> 00:43:31,747
- [Mario] For Davide,
he recognized the
power of the media
825
00:43:31,781 --> 00:43:34,646
and how he could
access that right away.
826
00:43:34,681 --> 00:43:37,649
He was getting his pictures out,
827
00:43:37,684 --> 00:43:39,271
and he was making
those connections,
828
00:43:39,306 --> 00:43:40,756
and he was super social,
829
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:43,103
and he was at
parties all the time.
830
00:43:45,208 --> 00:43:49,178
- Davide was always just
the charming little guy,
831
00:43:49,212 --> 00:43:51,559
you know, everyone loved Davide.
832
00:43:51,594 --> 00:43:54,666
And by the way, he's just,
happens to be hanging out
833
00:43:54,701 --> 00:43:57,496
on some of the best
sets in the industry
834
00:43:57,531 --> 00:44:01,293
and so he totally milked
it for everything.
835
00:44:07,058 --> 00:44:09,025
He would charm the
pants off all the girls
836
00:44:09,060 --> 00:44:13,064
and then of course be like,
hey, can I take your picture?
837
00:44:13,098 --> 00:44:14,686
Like, on the side here?
838
00:44:14,721 --> 00:44:16,101
Next thing you know
it, Davide's like,
839
00:44:16,136 --> 00:44:17,827
got all the best
girls in his book.
840
00:44:19,622 --> 00:44:22,176
- For a 17 year old, he
was very professional.
841
00:44:22,211 --> 00:44:24,696
Like he could instruct
the model how to move,
842
00:44:24,731 --> 00:44:28,182
and he would set up
the whole set himself,
843
00:44:28,217 --> 00:44:30,046
you know, he was a one man show.
844
00:44:32,255 --> 00:44:35,500
- He had this ability to
make you feel comfortable
845
00:44:35,534 --> 00:44:38,710
and he was really
loving, warm, sweet.
846
00:44:41,161 --> 00:44:43,266
Modeling always made me insecure
847
00:44:43,301 --> 00:44:45,993
and I was intimidated
by that whole world
848
00:44:46,028 --> 00:44:47,063
but not with Davide.
849
00:44:47,098 --> 00:44:49,100
Davide, when he
would look at me,
850
00:44:49,134 --> 00:44:51,102
it was like he
was looking at me.
851
00:44:51,136 --> 00:44:53,242
When he would take my
picture, he just wanted
852
00:44:53,276 --> 00:44:55,037
to take Jade's picture.
853
00:44:55,071 --> 00:44:56,728
I wasn't supposed to be like,
854
00:44:56,763 --> 00:44:59,041
a professional
model or anything.
855
00:45:00,767 --> 00:45:02,665
I loved working with Davide
856
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,530
and I wanted to do
it all the time.
857
00:45:05,564 --> 00:45:08,257
I wish he was the only
[laughs] photographer
858
00:45:08,291 --> 00:45:09,672
that I ever had to work with.
859
00:45:11,363 --> 00:45:12,710
- He took this
one picture of me,
860
00:45:12,744 --> 00:45:14,746
that's one of my
favorite pictures of me,
861
00:45:14,781 --> 00:45:18,129
lying on the very edge of
the roof of our building.
862
00:45:19,613 --> 00:45:22,754
He was standing on the edge and
trying to get the cars below
863
00:45:22,789 --> 00:45:24,756
and me in the same frame.
864
00:45:24,791 --> 00:45:27,517
I think about it now and
I'm like, if Fran was there,
865
00:45:27,552 --> 00:45:29,312
oh my gosh, but that was Davide,
866
00:45:29,347 --> 00:45:31,383
he would do anything
to get the shot.
867
00:45:31,418 --> 00:45:33,351
You know, he wasn't
thinking about the fact
868
00:45:33,385 --> 00:45:36,181
that like, oh, I
could totally fall.
869
00:45:36,216 --> 00:45:39,184
He was always on the edge
of something dangerous.
870
00:45:41,877 --> 00:45:43,154
- I've worked with a
lot of photographers
871
00:45:43,188 --> 00:45:45,190
and they can around
and around in circles
872
00:45:45,225 --> 00:45:48,642
trying to find that moment
but he knew what he wanted.
873
00:45:50,126 --> 00:45:54,613
Poses were always quite lyrical,
they almost were statuesque
874
00:45:55,580 --> 00:45:58,756
or Renaissance Italian figures.
875
00:46:00,205 --> 00:46:01,620
There was something
really romantic and heroic
876
00:46:01,655 --> 00:46:04,175
about the shapes of the models.
877
00:46:04,209 --> 00:46:06,729
He would push the models
to such an extent,
878
00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:10,595
they'll be just that point
where the body is about to break
879
00:46:10,629 --> 00:46:14,633
or tip over, that was always
a point that he would get.
880
00:46:14,668 --> 00:46:17,326
Just that last little
push over the edge.
881
00:46:22,193 --> 00:46:25,783
- Fashion is good and evil,
it's all wrapped into one.
882
00:46:25,817 --> 00:46:29,510
The best people, most
interesting, so artistic,
883
00:46:29,545 --> 00:46:33,342
so revolutionary in their
their thinking, visionaries
884
00:46:33,376 --> 00:46:38,174
and then at the same time, so
self-destructive, so insecure.
885
00:46:38,209 --> 00:46:40,142
When you're young and beautiful,
886
00:46:40,176 --> 00:46:41,557
everybody wants to
be close to you,
887
00:46:41,591 --> 00:46:45,250
everybody wants a
piece of that beauty.
888
00:46:46,562 --> 00:46:49,910
The fashion industry,
that's how it runs
889
00:46:49,945 --> 00:46:53,086
it just takes youth and
beauty and it feeds on it.
890
00:46:54,812 --> 00:46:58,816
You know, a lot of girls
didn't have the foresight,
891
00:46:58,850 --> 00:47:00,783
didn't have have
the right mentors,
892
00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:02,509
didn't have people
protecting them.
893
00:47:03,717 --> 00:47:06,168
I know Jaime didn't have that.
894
00:47:07,894 --> 00:47:10,862
- Jaime, where's Jaime King?
895
00:47:10,897 --> 00:47:13,037
- [Reporter] Recently the
New York Times magazine
896
00:47:13,071 --> 00:47:15,660
pegged Jaime as one of
the next supermodels.
897
00:47:15,694 --> 00:47:17,213
- She was really made for this.
898
00:47:17,248 --> 00:47:18,559
It's her personality.
- Really?
899
00:47:18,594 --> 00:47:19,457
- [Reporter] In what way?
900
00:47:19,491 --> 00:47:21,424
- She's kind of an adventurist.
901
00:47:21,459 --> 00:47:22,356
[laughing]
902
00:47:22,391 --> 00:47:24,842
Just kind of, spunky.
903
00:47:24,876 --> 00:47:27,327
[rock music]
904
00:47:41,651 --> 00:47:45,310
- I met Jaime, when
she was 15 years old
905
00:47:45,345 --> 00:47:46,794
and I did a job with her.
906
00:47:46,829 --> 00:47:51,834
She was a very, very
cool, young girl.
907
00:47:53,318 --> 00:47:57,081
- Wild child, yeah, very
beautiful, very charismic.
908
00:47:57,633 --> 00:47:58,876
She was special.
909
00:47:58,910 --> 00:48:00,394
- It was one of
my first campaigns
910
00:48:00,429 --> 00:48:03,811
and working with Mario Sorrenti
was such a huge deal for me.
911
00:48:03,846 --> 00:48:06,918
The whole thing felt like
it a dream, you know?
912
00:48:06,953 --> 00:48:09,403
And I remember Davide
came in with his like,
913
00:48:09,438 --> 00:48:11,612
it was like a yellow
Northface and he was all like,
914
00:48:11,647 --> 00:48:15,513
oooh, like, Davide came in
like he owned the joint.
915
00:48:15,547 --> 00:48:20,552
- And then I went back to Europe
and then when I came back,
916
00:48:21,381 --> 00:48:23,107
I think they were hanging out.
917
00:48:23,141 --> 00:48:25,695
- You know, and she had a
really special relationship
918
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:30,735
with him, they talked
about everything.
919
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,360
They had a lot in common.
920
00:48:38,191 --> 00:48:39,675
- I was very sick my whole life,
921
00:48:39,709 --> 00:48:42,022
as a child and I had
multiple, multiple surgeries,
922
00:48:42,057 --> 00:48:44,645
so when I met Davide I felt
like there was one other person
923
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,337
that kinda understands
what it was like for me
924
00:48:46,371 --> 00:48:47,648
when I was a kid growing up.
925
00:48:47,683 --> 00:48:49,927
He had these moments
where he would really,
926
00:48:49,961 --> 00:48:52,481
I don't know if it was
a-- it wasn't loneliness
927
00:48:52,515 --> 00:48:54,448
but it was a solitary
nature that I think came
928
00:48:54,483 --> 00:48:55,760
with his disease.
929
00:48:55,794 --> 00:48:59,039
- I think they both
experienced a lot of pain
930
00:48:59,074 --> 00:49:01,939
and they did connect
on that level.
931
00:49:01,973 --> 00:49:04,355
Being so young and going
through so many things
932
00:49:04,389 --> 00:49:06,702
at such a young age.
933
00:49:06,736 --> 00:49:08,462
- I think it actually
took a moment
934
00:49:08,497 --> 00:49:11,051
but when we all realized,
oh Dave's got like,
935
00:49:11,086 --> 00:49:14,399
a girlfriend, it's
like a real thing.
936
00:49:14,434 --> 00:49:17,989
- She was like a girl who
didn't exist in real life.
937
00:49:18,024 --> 00:49:20,785
Like, she was the girl who
literally stepped out of
938
00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:24,547
the pages of you
know, magazines.
939
00:49:24,582 --> 00:49:26,411
- [Mario] And he
really fell for her.
940
00:49:28,758 --> 00:49:32,417
- [Vanina] He was very
passionate and so tender.
941
00:49:32,452 --> 00:49:34,592
They both were really
in awe of each other.
942
00:49:35,938 --> 00:49:38,113
- Like, a great,
tender, happy moment
943
00:49:38,147 --> 00:49:39,804
that I remember with Davide was,
944
00:49:39,838 --> 00:49:42,531
Davide and I and like
three of my best friends
945
00:49:42,565 --> 00:49:45,396
drove to a concert in Wisconsin.
946
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:47,950
Everyone had fallen
asleep and Davide and I
947
00:49:47,985 --> 00:49:50,642
are watching this
incredible sunrise
948
00:49:52,196 --> 00:49:55,544
and we just went out and we
were shooting and exploring
949
00:49:55,578 --> 00:49:57,649
and like, I remember
that moment so distinctly
950
00:49:57,684 --> 00:50:00,514
and I remembered that
being, was glorious,
951
00:50:00,549 --> 00:50:02,965
I had ever seen the sky
my life, even to this day.
952
00:50:04,829 --> 00:50:06,727
Having that moment with
him through pictures
953
00:50:06,762 --> 00:50:09,834
and the intimacy of just
being together and being young
954
00:50:09,868 --> 00:50:11,456
and seeing such
beautiful landscape
955
00:50:11,491 --> 00:50:13,182
and everyone else was sleeping.
956
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:15,943
And a lot of the
times it felt like
957
00:50:15,978 --> 00:50:18,049
there was an understanding
between us, like,
958
00:50:18,084 --> 00:50:20,569
everyone else was sleeping
and that we were the only two
959
00:50:20,603 --> 00:50:21,673
that really understood.
960
00:50:25,091 --> 00:50:27,265
There would be days where
he would just be so tired
961
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:29,474
and his body would hurt so
bad that he didn't even want
962
00:50:29,509 --> 00:50:31,028
to like, get out of bed.
963
00:50:31,062 --> 00:50:32,995
And then him trying to
hide that or cover that
964
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:36,033
with whatever he was
doing because he would.
965
00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:39,415
But that's where think, where
part of his huberous came in.
966
00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:41,452
Because of the illness,
in a strange way,
967
00:50:41,486 --> 00:50:43,419
that also made him a
very beautiful artist
968
00:50:43,454 --> 00:50:46,077
because he was
incredibly sensitive,
969
00:50:46,112 --> 00:50:48,148
and compassionate,
and empathetic.
970
00:50:48,183 --> 00:50:50,288
You just felt like you were
seeing something very intimate,
971
00:50:50,323 --> 00:50:52,463
you felt like you were seeing
something very spontaneous,
972
00:50:52,497 --> 00:50:54,568
you felt like he captured
people in the moment
973
00:50:54,603 --> 00:50:56,225
of them being who they were.
974
00:50:57,537 --> 00:50:59,090
- [Chris] Some of the best
photographs ever taken
975
00:50:59,125 --> 00:51:02,438
of Jaime King were taken
by Davide Sorrenti.
976
00:51:02,473 --> 00:51:05,441
You could tell, like,
he really loved her.
977
00:51:05,476 --> 00:51:06,718
She was his muse.
978
00:51:08,651 --> 00:51:10,205
- [Richie] Dave
had, kind of like,
979
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,689
captured lightning in a bottle
980
00:51:11,723 --> 00:51:14,485
there, like, she was
a, you know, she was,
981
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,490
you know, she was something.
982
00:51:21,147 --> 00:51:22,872
- [Ivan] She looked
like she was perfection
983
00:51:22,907 --> 00:51:27,498
but she had other things
that were on her mind.
984
00:51:27,532 --> 00:51:31,260
I think he was drawn to
her bad side a little bit.
985
00:51:32,572 --> 00:51:35,851
- [Shawn] The two of them
together might've been like
986
00:51:35,885 --> 00:51:40,856
a crazy force that was, he
couldn't really fight it.
987
00:51:49,692 --> 00:51:53,282
- Davide, by surprise,
came by the office one day
988
00:51:53,317 --> 00:51:55,629
and we didn't know who he was.
989
00:51:55,664 --> 00:51:58,529
We thought he was
delivering something to us.
990
00:51:58,563 --> 00:52:00,979
But when we asked what
he was delivering,
991
00:52:01,014 --> 00:52:02,947
he didn't really want
to give us anything.
992
00:52:02,981 --> 00:52:05,260
So after some inquisition,
993
00:52:05,294 --> 00:52:08,573
he'd say that he was a young
photographer starting out
994
00:52:08,608 --> 00:52:11,162
and if we were interested
to look at his work.
995
00:52:11,197 --> 00:52:13,785
[melodic music]
996
00:52:15,408 --> 00:52:18,894
He has on his hand
a thick black book.
997
00:52:18,928 --> 00:52:22,346
Photographers who come to see
editors with little books like
998
00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:23,657
that are really photographers
999
00:52:23,692 --> 00:52:26,488
who are just starting
out with personal work.
1000
00:52:26,522 --> 00:52:27,903
They haven't really
done magazines,
1001
00:52:27,937 --> 00:52:30,492
they haven't done anything
that's really published.
1002
00:52:31,976 --> 00:52:36,498
In the book was a snapshot,
pictures, recollections
1003
00:52:36,532 --> 00:52:39,535
here and there, little
things, archival stuff.
1004
00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:43,263
But what's more efficient
was some of the remarks about
1005
00:52:43,298 --> 00:52:46,163
people, about how
he sees things.
1006
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,028
Photographers need
not prove to anybody
1007
00:52:50,063 --> 00:52:51,582
whether they could do magazine,
1008
00:52:51,616 --> 00:52:53,170
whether they could
do this or that.
1009
00:52:53,204 --> 00:52:55,965
They have to show us if
they have a personal vision.
1010
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,485
A way they see things
that are different
1011
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,039
and how they translate all
of that into the visual.
1012
00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:08,564
So, I hired him.
1013
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:18,643
What we did in the first
story was we took a bunch
1014
00:53:18,678 --> 00:53:21,439
of his friends and we
went to do a shooting
1015
00:53:21,474 --> 00:53:23,027
in the subway system.
1016
00:53:25,754 --> 00:53:29,067
We rented a van and we get all
his friends dressed upstairs
1017
00:53:30,276 --> 00:53:32,554
and we would all go down
together to the subway.
1018
00:53:34,176 --> 00:53:36,765
I would be the
surveillance master.
1019
00:53:36,799 --> 00:53:39,664
Look out for the police,
look out for trains arriving,
1020
00:53:39,699 --> 00:53:40,838
and trains going.
1021
00:53:40,872 --> 00:53:43,841
[shutter clicking]
1022
00:53:43,875 --> 00:53:48,259
We're not talking about
just in the subway.
1023
00:53:48,294 --> 00:53:50,054
We're talking, on
the subway track.
1024
00:53:56,992 --> 00:54:00,961
- [Matt] Maybe because of his
awareness and his mortality,
1025
00:54:00,996 --> 00:54:03,757
Davide's photographs
always had the sense, like,
1026
00:54:03,792 --> 00:54:05,794
immediate danger.
1027
00:54:05,828 --> 00:54:08,279
You know, he definitely
wasn't glamorous,
1028
00:54:10,316 --> 00:54:12,663
- [Richard] And sort of,
that moment after innocence
1029
00:54:12,697 --> 00:54:15,217
but before we started
to realize everything's
1030
00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:17,771
not so great all the time,
1031
00:54:17,806 --> 00:54:22,259
Davide's work, is that
moment frozen in time.
1032
00:54:24,744 --> 00:54:26,884
- [Man] What's the
coolest shoot you've done?
1033
00:54:28,851 --> 00:54:31,613
- Probably just stuff
for me, just like,
1034
00:54:31,647 --> 00:54:33,856
meeting people on the
street, just walking around.
1035
00:54:33,891 --> 00:54:37,377
I could never, I never really
liked any fashion shoots.
1036
00:54:37,412 --> 00:54:42,106
You know, just because
I just like documentary
1037
00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:43,832
but like more
photography stuff better.
1038
00:54:43,866 --> 00:54:48,871
You know like, like Robert
France, and just walking around.
1039
00:54:50,356 --> 00:54:54,394
Fashion is more like, I think
it's like a way to get money
1040
00:54:54,429 --> 00:54:56,845
so that you can do
your personal stuff.
1041
00:54:56,879 --> 00:54:59,744
- [Man] Like, what kind
of stuff are you into?
1042
00:54:59,779 --> 00:55:02,022
- Just simple documentary
stuff, you know,
1043
00:55:02,057 --> 00:55:06,717
nothing too glamorous or
fabulous or whatever you want
1044
00:55:06,751 --> 00:55:10,134
to call it, I'm just into
like, regular everyday life
1045
00:55:10,168 --> 00:55:11,756
kind of stuff, you know.
1046
00:55:11,791 --> 00:55:14,932
Basically like this
place is cool, you know,
1047
00:55:14,966 --> 00:55:19,937
I'm into this place and
nothing too outrageous, like,
1048
00:55:21,490 --> 00:55:24,976
big fricken' posing models,
looking like swans and shit.
1049
00:55:26,461 --> 00:55:28,635
- His edits were non-negotiable.
1050
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:32,881
So, basically, you are
getting what you are given.
1051
00:55:32,915 --> 00:55:35,193
And [laughs] that was it
1052
00:55:35,228 --> 00:55:38,645
and my job was to try
and convince everybody
1053
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,855
that they weren't being
dismissed as children.
1054
00:55:41,890 --> 00:55:44,893
It's quite bruising to have
an 18 year old kid tell you
1055
00:55:44,927 --> 00:55:47,067
that this is what
you're gonna get
1056
00:55:47,102 --> 00:55:49,484
and basically not
to ask any questions
1057
00:55:49,518 --> 00:55:51,727
because he knows
better, he's the artist.
1058
00:55:51,762 --> 00:55:54,972
[melodic piano music]
1059
00:55:56,836 --> 00:56:00,253
He had a complete style,
approach, and a language.
1060
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:04,706
There was always an
exploration for truth
1061
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:05,776
out of everything.
1062
00:56:05,810 --> 00:56:07,398
I mean, it could be
as simple as music
1063
00:56:07,433 --> 00:56:08,882
that he was listening to,
1064
00:56:08,917 --> 00:56:12,610
a piece of clothing,
a tag on a wall.
1065
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,753
There was no separation
between life and art for him.
1066
00:56:17,788 --> 00:56:21,895
So, everything was about
feeling, and execution,
1067
00:56:21,930 --> 00:56:26,141
and aesthetic, and it
was always this sense of,
1068
00:56:29,972 --> 00:56:31,422
there was always this sense of,
1069
00:56:31,457 --> 00:56:33,010
taste is a wrong word for it.
1070
00:56:36,358 --> 00:56:37,980
- And there were some days
that you didn't see Davide
1071
00:56:38,015 --> 00:56:40,914
because you knew that he kind
of pushed himself too hard,
1072
00:56:40,949 --> 00:56:43,917
not because he was
partying, he was shooting.
1073
00:56:43,952 --> 00:56:46,230
He was out shooting his fans,
he was staying up really late
1074
00:56:46,264 --> 00:56:49,578
and just kind of
soaking everybody's
energy in around him.
1075
00:56:49,613 --> 00:56:54,445
As if like, well, as if
he knew that he had to.
1076
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,828
I mean, this was his
moment to live, you know.
1077
00:57:02,488 --> 00:57:03,799
- He was like that
flame, you know,
1078
00:57:03,834 --> 00:57:07,803
the typical story of all
the moths around this flame,
1079
00:57:07,838 --> 00:57:10,806
it was like he was so
beautiful, so bright,
1080
00:57:10,841 --> 00:57:13,913
I mean, he was sitting at
a table, you just smiled.
1081
00:57:17,675 --> 00:57:19,988
That was the amazing
thing, you know?
1082
00:57:20,022 --> 00:57:23,474
People just smiled,
like who is this kid?
1083
00:57:29,342 --> 00:57:33,415
- That time of my life, my
business was not in a good place
1084
00:57:35,935 --> 00:57:37,454
because I was too commercial.
1085
00:57:39,007 --> 00:57:41,492
Davide Sorrenti walked
into my life one day
1086
00:57:41,527 --> 00:57:43,425
and he came in with this energy
1087
00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:45,254
that I have never
experienced before.
1088
00:57:46,359 --> 00:57:47,498
I had a receptionist.
1089
00:57:47,533 --> 00:57:49,707
Her orders were to
never let anybody behind
1090
00:57:49,742 --> 00:57:51,640
without being
announced and accepted.
1091
00:57:51,675 --> 00:57:53,193
He just got by her.
1092
00:57:53,228 --> 00:57:55,851
And I hear this kid talking
in the hallway to people.
1093
00:57:55,886 --> 00:57:58,682
I go out of my office going,
what's going on there?
1094
00:57:58,716 --> 00:58:01,305
And there's this kid with
his trainers on, and jeans,
1095
00:58:01,339 --> 00:58:05,309
and a t-shirt and a little
necklace around his neck.
1096
00:58:06,690 --> 00:58:08,105
And he goes, dude.
1097
00:58:08,139 --> 00:58:10,072
He didn't even know who I
was at that moment either.
1098
00:58:10,107 --> 00:58:13,455
It didn't matter that
I was David Lipman
and that Lipman was my company.
1099
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:15,630
I could've been Joe
Schmo at that point.
1100
00:58:15,664 --> 00:58:17,977
For Dave, it didn't
matter who you were.
1101
00:58:18,943 --> 00:58:19,841
You were the same.
1102
00:58:21,912 --> 00:58:24,121
And then we started
looking into his books.
1103
00:58:24,155 --> 00:58:26,572
We just spent hours
together that first moment.
1104
00:58:27,918 --> 00:58:29,540
It's hard for me to stop my day
1105
00:58:29,575 --> 00:58:31,680
but that day he stopped my day.
1106
00:58:31,715 --> 00:58:33,337
And I knew, at some point,
1107
00:58:33,371 --> 00:58:35,891
I was gonna give
this young man a job.
1108
00:58:43,209 --> 00:58:47,109
[water crashing and splashing]
1109
00:59:01,089 --> 00:59:04,748
When I met him, I had
no idea he was sick.
1110
00:59:04,782 --> 00:59:05,956
Somebody else told me,
1111
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:07,820
do you know that
Davide's really sick?
1112
00:59:09,028 --> 00:59:10,857
And I said, what do you
mean he's really sick?
1113
00:59:10,892 --> 00:59:12,514
This kid can't be sick!
1114
00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:15,344
There's nobody healthier that
I've ever met than this kid.
1115
00:59:16,622 --> 00:59:18,934
Then they told me about
his blood disorder
1116
00:59:18,969 --> 00:59:21,350
and disease and that he
didn't have long to live.
1117
00:59:21,385 --> 00:59:24,595
Matter of fact, he might
not get out of his 20's!
1118
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:26,977
I heard that and I
just, my heart broke.
1119
00:59:28,841 --> 00:59:31,568
- With Dave, it was like
he was kind of in a hurry.
1120
00:59:31,602 --> 00:59:34,674
There was a clock ticking.
1121
00:59:34,709 --> 00:59:38,022
When you smell roses, when
you know you're only here
1122
00:59:38,057 --> 00:59:40,335
for another few weeks
it's the most incredible
1123
00:59:40,369 --> 00:59:42,130
thing you've ever
smelled in your life.
1124
00:59:42,164 --> 00:59:44,995
Your senses are
sharpened, so to speak.
1125
00:59:45,029 --> 00:59:46,652
And I think Dave
kind of had that.
1126
00:59:48,964 --> 00:59:51,622
I had a tattoo down the
Jersey Shore and he was like,
1127
00:59:51,657 --> 00:59:53,382
I'd really like to pay for that
1128
00:59:53,417 --> 00:59:55,453
'cause then you'll
always remember me.
1129
00:59:55,488 --> 00:59:58,595
He would say things like
that and it'd be like, cuh.
1130
00:59:58,629 --> 01:00:00,493
You know, he was aware.
1131
01:00:01,632 --> 01:00:02,840
- [Mario] Right
around when he was 20
1132
01:00:02,875 --> 01:00:06,050
he was having a lot
of physical problems.
1133
01:00:07,224 --> 01:00:09,951
- He was told that
osteoporosis was setting in.
1134
01:00:09,985 --> 01:00:12,022
I think what he said is
that in a couple of years
1135
01:00:12,056 --> 01:00:14,403
he could be in a reduced
spending a lot of time
1136
01:00:14,438 --> 01:00:17,648
in a wheelchair, which
was just not Davide.
1137
01:00:19,063 --> 01:00:21,031
- I remember like times
where he would come back
1138
01:00:21,065 --> 01:00:23,136
from the hospital and
friends that he grew up
1139
01:00:23,171 --> 01:00:25,380
with the same disease,
would pass away.
1140
01:00:27,037 --> 01:00:28,486
And then him having
to deal with that.
1141
01:00:28,521 --> 01:00:31,800
And then like what do you
really say to someone?
1142
01:00:33,388 --> 01:00:34,596
- Oh, God.
1143
01:00:34,631 --> 01:00:37,323
From back then,
our group was good.
1144
01:00:38,842 --> 01:00:39,877
We had fun.
1145
01:00:43,122 --> 01:00:43,916
Steven.
1146
01:00:47,126 --> 01:00:47,920
Davide.
1147
01:00:54,064 --> 01:00:58,689
From back then a good portion
of us had passed away.
1148
01:01:08,043 --> 01:01:09,113
A lot of us passed away.
1149
01:01:11,081 --> 01:01:14,325
If you go to the clinic now
there's only like 15 of us.
1150
01:01:22,299 --> 01:01:24,922
- Well, I like the
idea of having kids.
1151
01:01:24,957 --> 01:01:26,544
Yeah, that's a great idea.
1152
01:01:28,132 --> 01:01:30,721
I look at my baby pictures
and there isn't that many,
1153
01:01:30,756 --> 01:01:33,724
so I'd like to take
pictures of all my kids.
1154
01:01:33,759 --> 01:01:36,416
Like, as their growing
up, you know what I mean?
1155
01:01:36,451 --> 01:01:38,246
Like, maybe like
one picture a month.
1156
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,731
I have it like all
figured out already.
1157
01:01:40,766 --> 01:01:42,871
- I mean, I can't even
imagine what it would be like
1158
01:01:42,906 --> 01:01:47,911
to not see yourself
as a grown up.
1159
01:01:51,708 --> 01:01:53,744
You just automatically
take that other picture
1160
01:01:53,779 --> 01:01:56,747
and you're like all I
have is like right now.
1161
01:01:56,782 --> 01:01:58,266
So, what am I gonna do?
1162
01:01:58,300 --> 01:01:59,923
I'm gonaa-- let's go fuckin',
let's go write graffiti
1163
01:01:59,957 --> 01:02:03,271
and smoke fucking blunts
'till we can't see.
1164
01:02:03,305 --> 01:02:06,032
- [Mario] When these
pictures were dark,
1165
01:02:06,067 --> 01:02:08,310
they weren't just dark
because my pictures were dark.
1166
01:02:08,345 --> 01:02:11,658
I think they were dark
because he made a connection
1167
01:02:11,693 --> 01:02:13,868
with what they expressed.
1168
01:02:15,145 --> 01:02:19,908
- He always wanted to portray
in his fashion photography
1169
01:02:21,116 --> 01:02:25,776
sort of the depth of his
own, I guess despair.
1170
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:32,956
The darkness for him
didn't speak of drugs,
1171
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:34,751
it spoke of a dreamworld.
1172
01:02:36,338 --> 01:02:37,719
And that's how he put it.
1173
01:02:37,754 --> 01:02:40,618
He's like, Ma, it was like
a dream and your melancholy.
1174
01:02:40,653 --> 01:02:43,242
I remember him using
that word melancholy.
1175
01:02:44,968 --> 01:02:48,040
And I think that's how
he sort of saw himself.
1176
01:02:51,215 --> 01:02:54,115
- In every single magazine
that you see nowadays
1177
01:02:54,149 --> 01:02:55,875
they look like heroin addicts.
1178
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:58,602
Their eyes are sunken in,
1179
01:02:58,636 --> 01:03:03,158
their poses are that of
somebody who's loaded.
1180
01:03:03,193 --> 01:03:05,436
- That whole a
heroin chic moment,
1181
01:03:05,471 --> 01:03:08,129
I think was a pretty
pathetic moment for fashion
1182
01:03:08,163 --> 01:03:10,925
and that's something that
certainly we didn't try
1183
01:03:10,959 --> 01:03:14,963
to endorse but a lot of the
more Avant-garde magazines did.
1184
01:03:14,998 --> 01:03:18,001
To show a lot of emaciated
girls looking depressed,
1185
01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:19,519
like they just
finished shooting up.
1186
01:03:19,554 --> 01:03:21,590
I mean, I don't think
that's the kind of image
1187
01:03:21,625 --> 01:03:24,386
that you want to see
in women's magazines.
1188
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:28,356
- [Jaime] What people don't
understand about heroin chic
1189
01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:29,633
is that it wasn't about heroin.
1190
01:03:29,667 --> 01:03:31,324
It was about being real.
1191
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:35,363
It was about no makeup,
greasy hair, I don't care.
1192
01:03:35,397 --> 01:03:36,502
This is who I am.
1193
01:03:38,055 --> 01:03:40,195
That's what Mario
Sorrenti was about.
1194
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:42,266
That's what Davide
Sorrenti was about.
1195
01:03:42,301 --> 01:03:45,200
- He never made you pose,
he was always looking for
1196
01:03:45,235 --> 01:03:47,616
that moment where you were
really true to yourself.
1197
01:03:47,651 --> 01:03:49,411
That's what's different
about his photographs
1198
01:03:49,446 --> 01:03:51,551
and other people
photographs at that time
1199
01:03:51,586 --> 01:03:54,209
was he wanted to
see you vulnerable
1200
01:03:54,244 --> 01:03:57,799
and naked, not being cool.
1201
01:03:57,834 --> 01:03:59,007
You know what I mean?
1202
01:03:59,042 --> 01:04:00,526
Like, he wanted to show
your imperfections.
1203
01:04:03,805 --> 01:04:05,462
- [Chris] As the years
grew on the images started
1204
01:04:05,496 --> 01:04:06,877
to become a little darker.
1205
01:04:06,912 --> 01:04:08,258
I mean, not just
Davide's but everybody's.
1206
01:04:08,292 --> 01:04:11,399
And I think it really
reflected, kind of, a mood
1207
01:04:11,433 --> 01:04:14,471
that sort of crept in, in the
industry at that time.
1208
01:04:16,266 --> 01:04:19,890
- The people who were
creating these images
1209
01:04:19,925 --> 01:04:23,860
were actually documenting
what was going on.
1210
01:04:23,894 --> 01:04:26,517
Kids' interest in heroin
at that particular time
1211
01:04:26,552 --> 01:04:28,278
was a reflection of what
1212
01:04:28,312 --> 01:04:31,039
they weren't being
given by society.
1213
01:04:31,074 --> 01:04:34,249
And it was being exploited
in the commercial fashion.
1214
01:04:34,284 --> 01:04:38,460
To sell clothes, to sell
livestock, to sell magazines,
1215
01:04:38,495 --> 01:04:40,497
it was being used to sell.
1216
01:04:40,531 --> 01:04:43,880
- And all the sudden there
was this huge drug movement
1217
01:04:43,914 --> 01:04:48,332
going on and everybody
thought it was cool.
1218
01:04:48,367 --> 01:04:51,473
Nobody thought it
would hurt anyone.
1219
01:04:53,027 --> 01:04:56,720
- Our peers were partying,
our agents were partying,
1220
01:04:56,754 --> 01:04:58,895
our managers were partying.
1221
01:04:58,929 --> 01:05:00,931
It was pretty much
are free-for-all.
1222
01:05:00,966 --> 01:05:03,554
- The people that were
supposed to be, quote-unquote,
1223
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:06,868
protecting you, were
also the people using
1224
01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:08,421
and abusing drugs.
1225
01:05:08,456 --> 01:05:11,424
We were just a little kids
doing whatever we wanted to do
1226
01:05:11,459 --> 01:05:13,564
but at the same time you
feel like if you're not doing
1227
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:16,015
what the adults are doing
then they won't hire you
1228
01:05:16,050 --> 01:05:17,465
or book you.
1229
01:05:17,499 --> 01:05:20,606
That creates a really
toxic combination.
1230
01:05:21,883 --> 01:05:23,367
- She loved Davide, dearly.
1231
01:05:23,402 --> 01:05:26,784
The only thing is, at
the time, you know,
1232
01:05:26,819 --> 01:05:31,824
she was on drugs and
heroin does make people
1233
01:05:33,343 --> 01:05:37,485
do very odd things but that is
not talking bad about Jaime.
1234
01:05:40,695 --> 01:05:43,491
Like I said, Jaime was a victim.
1235
01:05:43,525 --> 01:05:48,323
You know, at 14 a photo
assistant turned her on to drugs
1236
01:05:49,531 --> 01:05:51,119
and she got caught up
and she was addicted
1237
01:05:51,154 --> 01:05:55,434
and nobody did anything to
help her not be addicted.
1238
01:05:56,745 --> 01:05:58,609
- Like, I was ashamed.
1239
01:05:58,644 --> 01:06:01,060
Like, when you're that
young and you start doing
1240
01:06:01,095 --> 01:06:03,304
these things that like
all of these adults
1241
01:06:03,338 --> 01:06:04,615
are doing around you
and you're just a kid
1242
01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:06,203
and you don't know the
difference 'cause you think
1243
01:06:06,238 --> 01:06:08,136
that you're experimenting, you
don't think it's a big deal,
1244
01:06:08,171 --> 01:06:11,381
and then all the sudden you're
like in a really dark place.
1245
01:06:11,415 --> 01:06:14,073
I know that he wasn't
like, a huge fan of
1246
01:06:14,108 --> 01:06:15,316
the harder drugs.
1247
01:06:16,524 --> 01:06:18,112
- I mean, we did
all sorts of drugs
1248
01:06:18,146 --> 01:06:20,907
but there are a couple things
that were kind of very taboo.
1249
01:06:20,942 --> 01:06:22,392
Heroin being one of them.
1250
01:06:22,426 --> 01:06:24,359
- You know, to me at the time,
1251
01:06:24,394 --> 01:06:27,569
it just existed in an
entirely different world.
1252
01:06:27,604 --> 01:06:30,331
It wasn't part of my
world until it was
1253
01:06:32,264 --> 01:06:36,613
and then when it was, it's
a little bit of a labyrinth.
1254
01:06:36,647 --> 01:06:38,649
It can be hard to
navigate your way out.
1255
01:06:40,686 --> 01:06:45,449
I did end up having my own
experiences with heroin.
1256
01:06:47,417 --> 01:06:49,833
And interestingly enough,
like the only person
1257
01:06:49,867 --> 01:06:54,044
who really called me on
that, ever, was Dave.
1258
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:57,944
He didn't come at
me all aggressively
1259
01:06:57,979 --> 01:07:02,052
or anything like that and
tell me I was being an idiot.
1260
01:07:02,087 --> 01:07:04,503
You know, but did call
me on it in his own way.
1261
01:07:06,022 --> 01:07:08,231
- Davide, I think, went
in thinking that he could
1262
01:07:08,265 --> 01:07:11,648
kind of save Jaimes
from doing the drugs.
1263
01:07:11,682 --> 01:07:13,891
Jaimes kinda fought it.
1264
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,102
- Dave would say he
was gonna help her.
1265
01:07:19,276 --> 01:07:21,416
I guess they all say that.
1266
01:07:21,451 --> 01:07:24,074
- It was also at a
time where I feel like
1267
01:07:24,109 --> 01:07:28,561
he was very much establishing
his independency.
1268
01:07:28,596 --> 01:07:30,874
He moved out of his mom's house.
1269
01:07:30,908 --> 01:07:33,428
- Jaime King and Davide
lived in the brownstone
1270
01:07:33,463 --> 01:07:36,811
and then it turned into the
frat house of New York City.
1271
01:07:36,845 --> 01:07:39,055
All beautiful people,
they would hang out
1272
01:07:39,089 --> 01:07:40,297
there all night long.
1273
01:07:40,332 --> 01:07:42,161
- There were a lot
of people there.
1274
01:07:42,196 --> 01:07:45,647
You know, it was like,
it was a lot of teenagers
1275
01:07:45,682 --> 01:07:49,237
hanging out, sleeping
on couches, shit
all over the place,
1276
01:07:49,272 --> 01:07:51,101
artwork all over, photographs,
1277
01:07:51,136 --> 01:07:54,518
fashion magazines,
everything was like.
1278
01:07:54,553 --> 01:07:57,901
- I lived with them for a
while until we got kicked out
1279
01:07:57,935 --> 01:08:00,248
or something cuz her
family came and saw
1280
01:08:00,283 --> 01:08:01,594
that it was like the party.
1281
01:08:01,629 --> 01:08:03,493
We were growing weed
in the apartment.
1282
01:08:03,527 --> 01:08:05,909
Her dad came and like,
blew up the spot.
1283
01:08:07,324 --> 01:08:09,533
- I think everybody knew
something weird was happening
1284
01:08:09,568 --> 01:08:12,295
and it was hard to say
exactly what it was.
I know it was hard for me.
1285
01:08:12,329 --> 01:08:13,123
I knew.
1286
01:08:14,676 --> 01:08:16,609
Like, again, things were
just started getting
1287
01:08:16,644 --> 01:08:19,612
a little bit more
secretive and like,
1288
01:08:19,647 --> 01:08:23,616
shut off from other
parts of this crew
1289
01:08:23,651 --> 01:08:26,550
that we had for years.
1290
01:08:26,585 --> 01:08:31,452
- There was some natural
fracturing of the crew.
1291
01:08:31,486 --> 01:08:35,041
Everyone's got their
own aspirations
1292
01:08:35,076 --> 01:08:36,871
of what they want to
do with their life
1293
01:08:36,905 --> 01:08:38,286
and I think those
things were taking hold.
1294
01:08:39,598 --> 01:08:41,910
- You know, the last year
was a really tough year
1295
01:08:41,945 --> 01:08:46,812
of all those really sweet
kids that were exploding
1296
01:08:49,090 --> 01:08:54,095
with energy and creativity
had gotten sucked into drugs
1297
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:59,273
and nightlife and some
sort of positive energy
1298
01:09:00,136 --> 01:09:01,482
was being sucked out of them.
1299
01:09:02,759 --> 01:09:05,313
It's kind of like a stage
in some people's lives
1300
01:09:05,348 --> 01:09:06,590
they go through, you know.
1301
01:09:06,625 --> 01:09:08,592
I went through a stage
like that in my life
1302
01:09:08,627 --> 01:09:10,560
and then you come out
from the other side
1303
01:09:10,594 --> 01:09:13,183
and it's like day
again, you know?
1304
01:09:13,218 --> 01:09:17,670
When you're the type of
person that's creative
1305
01:09:17,705 --> 01:09:20,708
and you're pushing boundaries
1306
01:09:20,742 --> 01:09:24,746
that eventually you
will get up to that edge
1307
01:09:24,781 --> 01:09:26,127
but you don't want to cross
1308
01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:27,991
but you want to like
get up to that edge
1309
01:09:28,025 --> 01:09:29,441
to see what's there.
1310
01:09:30,718 --> 01:09:33,272
I was that kind of person,
Davide was that kind of person.
1311
01:09:33,307 --> 01:09:35,930
He just needed to see
how far he could push.
1312
01:09:35,964 --> 01:09:38,760
[imperious music]
1313
01:09:43,524 --> 01:09:46,492
- So, I wound up getting this
client in Montreal, Canada,
1314
01:09:46,527 --> 01:09:47,838
which were two jean brands.
1315
01:09:47,873 --> 01:09:50,945
One was Buffalo Jeans and
the other was Request.
1316
01:09:50,979 --> 01:09:53,189
But I let Davide
cast the campaign.
1317
01:09:53,223 --> 01:09:55,225
I let Davide style the campaign.
1318
01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:56,537
It was all his.
1319
01:09:58,263 --> 01:10:00,126
- I'm really fond of Davide
for having the vision.
1320
01:10:00,161 --> 01:10:03,164
To see Davide's talent and
let Davide has his way.
1321
01:10:03,992 --> 01:10:05,753
He did good at his job.
1322
01:10:05,787 --> 01:10:07,962
- He didn't want to book all
the girls from our agency.
1323
01:10:07,996 --> 01:10:10,516
He wanted to book a couple
from the other agencies,
1324
01:10:10,551 --> 01:10:15,521
even though, the owner of my
agency was appalled by it.
1325
01:10:15,556 --> 01:10:18,593
Davide stuck to his guns
because he needed those girls.
1326
01:10:18,628 --> 01:10:21,355
He felt that they
had the right stuff.
1327
01:10:21,389 --> 01:10:24,944
It was his first,
like, real campaign
1328
01:10:24,979 --> 01:10:26,636
and he dug his heels in.
1329
01:10:28,189 --> 01:10:31,641
- So the style of
things is one big table
1330
01:10:31,675 --> 01:10:34,782
and all the clothes are
all rolled up in a ball.
1331
01:10:34,816 --> 01:10:37,336
There's no hangers,
nothing passe like that.
1332
01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:39,338
And I go, Davide, what
are you doing, man?
1333
01:10:39,373 --> 01:10:42,272
He's like, making the clothes
look like shit. [chuckles]
1334
01:10:42,307 --> 01:10:43,618
Excuse my language.
1335
01:10:43,653 --> 01:10:46,621
And he goes, no, dude man,
this is the way we live, man.
1336
01:10:46,656 --> 01:10:48,899
These are jeans
for kids, you know,
1337
01:10:48,934 --> 01:10:51,108
like, this is the way it is.
1338
01:10:51,143 --> 01:10:52,800
And I could see the fear
in the client's eyes
1339
01:10:52,834 --> 01:10:55,699
and I just walked them
out and I said, you know,
1340
01:10:55,734 --> 01:10:57,805
you're about a young,
youthful brand.
1341
01:10:57,839 --> 01:10:59,462
So youths would be to.
1342
01:10:59,496 --> 01:11:01,981
If you want, let him go.
1343
01:11:02,016 --> 01:11:04,984
And Davide would hold
that camera in his hand
1344
01:11:05,019 --> 01:11:06,469
and take time exposed pictures
1345
01:11:06,503 --> 01:11:07,918
and I remember saying to him,
1346
01:11:07,953 --> 01:11:10,058
I said, they're all gonna be
out of focus, Davide. [laughs]
1347
01:11:10,093 --> 01:11:11,681
I said, nothing's going
to be sharp
1348
01:11:11,715 --> 01:11:13,683
and he goes, dude,
don't worry man,
1349
01:11:13,717 --> 01:11:15,719
it's going to be the butters,
it's going to be the butters,
1350
01:11:15,754 --> 01:11:16,789
butters, butters, butters,
1351
01:11:16,824 --> 01:11:18,550
that was those words
for that moment.
1352
01:11:20,483 --> 01:11:23,140
When these prints came out
and they were so beautiful.
1353
01:11:24,970 --> 01:11:26,834
Slapping that brand
on it diminished
1354
01:11:26,868 --> 01:11:28,249
the photographs a bit.
1355
01:11:28,284 --> 01:11:29,802
It would have been amazing
1356
01:11:29,837 --> 01:11:32,529
if they're in an ID magazine
in England at that time
1357
01:11:32,564 --> 01:11:35,739
as an editorial story
or as an Art Exhibit
1358
01:11:35,774 --> 01:11:38,846
about the youthful moment
of the 90's where we were.
1359
01:11:40,882 --> 01:11:42,919
They were way better
than the brand
1360
01:11:42,953 --> 01:11:46,750
but then it didn't translate
to dollars right away.
1361
01:11:46,785 --> 01:11:49,166
And then the company wasn't
cool enough to understand
1362
01:11:49,201 --> 01:11:50,685
where to go with it.
1363
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,515
But Dave was cool about it
because I remember a time
1364
01:11:52,549 --> 01:11:53,964
where they didn't
want to do it again
1365
01:11:53,999 --> 01:11:57,485
and Dave was like, fuck them,
we'll do something else, man.
1366
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,454
A lot of it was him
coming of age too saying,
1367
01:12:00,488 --> 01:12:04,423
I've got it, I did it,
it's an advertising job
1368
01:12:04,458 --> 01:12:05,528
and I photographed it.
1369
01:12:05,562 --> 01:12:07,081
So, it was a big accomplishment.
1370
01:12:08,876 --> 01:12:12,638
- [Mario] Davide was actually
drawing up very, very quickly.
1371
01:12:12,673 --> 01:12:15,538
He was making huge
steps in no time.
1372
01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:18,886
If it were me it would
take me years and years
1373
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,991
and for him it would
happen over months.
1374
01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:26,100
- Okay, we're right
down here now.
1375
01:12:26,134 --> 01:12:27,757
With the audience and
we're going to ask them
1376
01:12:27,791 --> 01:12:30,346
what they think about all
this hoopla that's going on.
1377
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:31,864
Let's go.
1378
01:12:31,899 --> 01:12:33,452
So, we're standing here with
1379
01:12:33,487 --> 01:12:36,110
high fashion photographer,
Davide Sorrenti.
1380
01:12:36,144 --> 01:12:39,113
Davide, what the
hell, what's up man?
1381
01:12:39,147 --> 01:12:41,909
What were you
thinking about Coolio
1382
01:12:41,943 --> 01:12:43,911
and just this show
and all the girls.
1383
01:12:43,945 --> 01:12:46,879
I mean, have you ever been
to anything like this?
1384
01:12:46,914 --> 01:12:48,985
- Yeah, man, but
this one was butters,
1385
01:12:49,019 --> 01:12:50,918
you know, they have
their life flowin',
1386
01:12:50,952 --> 01:12:52,713
their girlies are
all good, clothes,
1387
01:12:53,817 --> 01:12:56,751
some of the clothes
were all good.
1388
01:12:56,786 --> 01:12:58,581
- What about the
champagne going around?
1389
01:12:58,615 --> 01:13:00,030
That's pretty nice.
1390
01:13:00,065 --> 01:13:03,033
- I don't know, I don't know
represent on any champagne.
1391
01:13:03,068 --> 01:13:07,210
- Davide had positioned himself
and was being recognized
1392
01:13:07,244 --> 01:13:10,420
by the industry as
somebody to look out for.
1393
01:13:10,455 --> 01:13:12,526
Especially when
you're that young
1394
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,528
and you have the ability
to be able to capture
1395
01:13:14,562 --> 01:13:18,186
those kind of images, you
quickly come to the surface
1396
01:13:18,221 --> 01:13:20,430
and you're celebrated
for being somebody
1397
01:13:20,465 --> 01:13:22,605
that we all need
to be a part of.
1398
01:13:22,639 --> 01:13:23,951
- He so charmed everybody
1399
01:13:23,985 --> 01:13:26,367
and everybody saw so
much promise in him
1400
01:13:26,402 --> 01:13:31,407
that the fashion world
was anointing him.
1401
01:13:32,477 --> 01:13:34,824
- He was just starting
to break through
1402
01:13:37,482 --> 01:13:39,415
from behind the
shadow of his brother.
1403
01:13:40,761 --> 01:13:42,245
This was our golden boy.
1404
01:13:47,215 --> 01:13:49,252
- [Mario] He was
in a weird place
1405
01:13:50,495 --> 01:13:55,292
and I think he was in a
rush to get things done.
1406
01:13:57,502 --> 01:14:00,021
- Anyone that feels like
there's an expiration date
1407
01:14:00,056 --> 01:14:02,610
on their life will
constantly shift
1408
01:14:02,645 --> 01:14:07,650
between melancholy and wanting
to live life to the fullest.
1409
01:14:08,927 --> 01:14:12,586
A recklessness and an
honoring at the same time.
1410
01:14:13,828 --> 01:14:18,488
- You could see the drug
use, which he denied.
1411
01:14:19,696 --> 01:14:20,973
It's inevitable, you know?
1412
01:14:21,008 --> 01:14:22,630
You want to do what
your partner's doing,
1413
01:14:22,665 --> 01:14:23,804
you want to be close.
1414
01:14:24,908 --> 01:14:27,117
- You know, he was
frustrated in many ways
1415
01:14:27,152 --> 01:14:30,500
because he knew that
it was dangerous
1416
01:14:30,535 --> 01:14:34,435
but he also knew, well, I'm
not here for that long anyway.
1417
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:37,887
- I don't know how
long the period was
1418
01:14:37,921 --> 01:14:40,441
when Dave first started
to dabble in heroin
1419
01:14:40,476 --> 01:14:44,341
but when it got really bad, it
got really bad, really fast.
1420
01:14:45,860 --> 01:14:47,344
- Dave started
putting out more work
1421
01:14:47,379 --> 01:14:50,865
but he also seemed to be
getting more fucked up.
1422
01:14:52,833 --> 01:14:54,800
- [Alex] With that
drug, in particular,
1423
01:14:54,835 --> 01:14:58,494
it completely swallows
up that person
1424
01:14:58,528 --> 01:14:59,874
that you thought you knew.
1425
01:15:01,151 --> 01:15:04,810
And it's just a shell of
that person with this, like,
1426
01:15:04,845 --> 01:15:06,329
something else inside them.
1427
01:15:09,194 --> 01:15:11,541
- Everyone knew he was on it
1428
01:15:11,576 --> 01:15:15,925
but just didn't really
know how to change it.
1429
01:15:18,099 --> 01:15:20,930
You know, no one knew
where to go and what to do.
1430
01:15:20,964 --> 01:15:25,969
We were just like, I dunno, man.
1431
01:15:29,214 --> 01:15:30,905
- You don't want to
alienate the person
1432
01:15:30,940 --> 01:15:35,876
but you don't want to
condone this behavior.
1433
01:15:37,429 --> 01:15:38,948
And then you keep
hoping for the best.
1434
01:15:38,982 --> 01:15:41,744
You kind of turn
a blind eye to it.
1435
01:15:43,124 --> 01:15:46,714
You know when Alex Burns
got involved in heroin,
1436
01:15:46,749 --> 01:15:49,959
people just straight up like
kicked the shit out of him
1437
01:15:49,993 --> 01:15:52,651
thinking that that
was going to do it.
1438
01:15:52,686 --> 01:15:53,445
And it didn't.
1439
01:15:54,998 --> 01:15:58,139
So, you can't beat up Davide
'cause he was kind of frail.
1440
01:15:59,727 --> 01:16:01,695
- [Alex] I had come out
of the other side of that
1441
01:16:01,729 --> 01:16:04,939
and when the tables were turned,
1442
01:16:06,907 --> 01:16:09,668
I didn't, I didn't really
have the character,
1443
01:16:09,703 --> 01:16:11,705
I don't think, to
confront him about it.
1444
01:16:13,016 --> 01:16:14,604
That was something
that I thought about
1445
01:16:14,639 --> 01:16:16,710
a lot over the years.
1446
01:16:19,126 --> 01:16:21,059
- [Vanina] That whole
period was just like,
1447
01:16:22,543 --> 01:16:24,200
the end of the spiral.
1448
01:16:24,234 --> 01:16:26,064
You know, I remember
it that way.
1449
01:16:27,859 --> 01:16:30,655
And this was like, he had
already OD'ed like twice.
1450
01:16:31,828 --> 01:16:34,244
- [Richie] When he
was like, yo, I died.
1451
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:36,453
He said that to
me, like yo, I died
1452
01:16:36,488 --> 01:16:37,903
and I came back to life.
1453
01:16:37,938 --> 01:16:41,838
I was dead, yo, and they
brought me back to life.
1454
01:16:41,873 --> 01:16:44,910
And I was like, dude, what the,
and he thought it was like,
1455
01:16:44,945 --> 01:16:45,877
cool and shit.
1456
01:16:52,608 --> 01:16:54,851
[laughing]
1457
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,650
[foreign language]
1458
01:17:00,685 --> 01:17:02,445
- [Steve] He basically
kind of, passed out,
1459
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,067
and they had to
call an ambulance,
1460
01:17:04,102 --> 01:17:05,621
took him to a hospital.
1461
01:17:06,794 --> 01:17:08,624
So, that was the real
first wake up call.
1462
01:17:08,658 --> 01:17:10,626
That was a couple
months before he died.
1463
01:17:12,075 --> 01:17:14,630
It was kind of painful
for us all to go through,
1464
01:17:14,664 --> 01:17:16,873
to watch him, kinda,
nosedive at the end.
1465
01:17:16,908 --> 01:17:19,013
And as he got into
the hard drugs.
1466
01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:22,948
- [Glen] Dude, what
camera have you got?
1467
01:17:22,983 --> 01:17:24,812
- I have the same
kinda shit you got.
1468
01:17:24,847 --> 01:17:25,641
- No.
1469
01:17:26,642 --> 01:17:28,195
- And then I'll use your 35
1470
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:30,197
because I never got to use
your 35, I don't have a 35.
1471
01:17:30,231 --> 01:17:31,819
- Okay.
- I only have a 40.
1472
01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:34,166
- [Radio] In Atlantic City,
there's no place like Kansas
1473
01:17:34,201 --> 01:17:35,581
and a 22 year old woman...
1474
01:17:35,616 --> 01:17:40,310
- He always had this attitude
of like, he's always right.
1475
01:17:41,484 --> 01:17:43,659
I was angry with
him and I was like,
1476
01:17:43,693 --> 01:17:45,005
why are you doing this?
1477
01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:47,455
And he just turn
around and he'd say,
1478
01:17:47,490 --> 01:17:50,355
well, you know,
I'm dying inside.
1479
01:17:53,738 --> 01:17:55,429
I couldn't say anything.
1480
01:17:55,463 --> 01:17:56,223
You know what I mean?
1481
01:17:56,257 --> 01:17:57,500
I couldn't say anything.
1482
01:18:01,677 --> 01:18:03,437
What are you going to say
to somebody, you know,
1483
01:18:03,471 --> 01:18:04,645
what are you gonna say?
1484
01:18:07,165 --> 01:18:09,512
He started becoming fatalist.
1485
01:18:10,755 --> 01:18:13,240
He's like, it doesn't
matter, I don't care.
1486
01:18:13,274 --> 01:18:16,105
Which was a shame
because he always cared,
1487
01:18:16,139 --> 01:18:18,452
so much, about everything.
1488
01:18:20,247 --> 01:18:22,042
You still wanted to,
like, change that
1489
01:18:22,076 --> 01:18:23,871
and you knew you couldn't.
1490
01:18:29,290 --> 01:18:32,293
- I knew something horrible
was about to happen
1491
01:18:32,328 --> 01:18:34,537
and the feeling
just overwhelmed me.
1492
01:18:36,263 --> 01:18:39,715
I was doing a shoot in L.A.
1493
01:18:39,749 --> 01:18:41,061
and then I just said, you know,
1494
01:18:41,095 --> 01:18:44,271
Steve why don't we just
go to Mexico for a week?
1495
01:18:44,305 --> 01:18:48,171
And we'll Dave, it's
gonna be his vacation.
1496
01:18:48,206 --> 01:18:50,070
Anything you want
to do, he'll do.
1497
01:18:52,866 --> 01:18:55,765
- The trip to Los
Angeles was very strange.
1498
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,112
It was like being in a dream.
1499
01:18:58,147 --> 01:19:00,356
He was just not in his body.
1500
01:19:00,390 --> 01:19:01,909
I don't know how to describe it.
1501
01:19:01,944 --> 01:19:03,531
Some part of him was leaving.
1502
01:19:05,016 --> 01:19:07,190
- He was very uncomfortable
being away from the drugs.
1503
01:19:07,225 --> 01:19:10,918
We always had to keep him
close and keep an eye on him.
1504
01:19:10,953 --> 01:19:12,851
We would pass pharmacies
and he'd want to go in
1505
01:19:12,886 --> 01:19:14,163
and get something and I'd say,
1506
01:19:14,197 --> 01:19:15,543
no you can't go in
to the drugstore.
1507
01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:20,410
- Dave and I went to
go vintage shopping
1508
01:19:20,445 --> 01:19:23,759
and I remember him
like launching into
the middle of traffic
1509
01:19:23,793 --> 01:19:25,139
and I was like,
what are you doing?
1510
01:19:25,174 --> 01:19:27,624
I was freaked out, I was
like, what are you doing?
1511
01:19:27,659 --> 01:19:30,110
What is going on with you?
I just didn't get it.
1512
01:19:30,144 --> 01:19:32,388
It was like he was just
a different, it just,
1513
01:19:32,422 --> 01:19:36,737
like, he was just
a different being.
1514
01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:37,738
I can't even say person.
1515
01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:39,636
It was like a different being.
1516
01:19:42,191 --> 01:19:46,505
I remember going back to
the hotel and we decided
1517
01:19:46,540 --> 01:19:48,231
to go take some
pictures together.
1518
01:19:48,266 --> 01:19:50,682
It was like the one where
I'm flashing my butt.
1519
01:19:51,925 --> 01:19:54,237
And there's a picture
of him and I together.
1520
01:19:55,583 --> 01:19:58,000
That was the last picture
that we ever took together.
1521
01:20:00,865 --> 01:20:03,660
They were going to
take him to Mexico
1522
01:20:03,695 --> 01:20:07,216
and I remember them asking
me to go and I just wanted
1523
01:20:07,250 --> 01:20:08,389
to go home to Omaha, so bad.
1524
01:20:08,424 --> 01:20:10,667
I was so freaked
out by that trip.
1525
01:20:11,841 --> 01:20:13,567
That was the last time
that I saw Davide.
1526
01:20:16,052 --> 01:20:18,952
[mysterious music]
1527
01:20:21,161 --> 01:20:23,370
- [Steve] So, we went down there
and had a really nice time.
1528
01:20:23,404 --> 01:20:26,787
Kind of reconnected a little
bit in our sorta family way.
1529
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:33,000
- And I remembered, the
last shot on his camera,
1530
01:20:35,382 --> 01:20:39,248
we were in the water and the
water was twinkling with sun
1531
01:20:39,282 --> 01:20:42,354
in his hair and it was,
sort of, threw me off
1532
01:20:42,389 --> 01:20:45,219
because it looked
almost magical.
1533
01:20:45,254 --> 01:20:47,635
You know and he's smiling
and he's just standing there
1534
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:51,156
with sand in his hand, turns
around and he looks at me
1535
01:20:51,191 --> 01:20:53,641
and he's standing
like that for a minute
1536
01:20:53,676 --> 01:20:56,092
and I'm like, Dave,
get out of the water.
1537
01:20:56,127 --> 01:20:58,474
We have to leave, catch a plane.
1538
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,307
He comes out and all of a
sudden there's this big wave.
1539
01:21:04,342 --> 01:21:07,414
These fish come out and
he catched this fish
1540
01:21:07,448 --> 01:21:12,419
that's about, I'd say, 12
inches and he's holding it.
1541
01:21:13,696 --> 01:21:14,731
And I said, throw
it back. [laughs]
1542
01:21:14,766 --> 01:21:16,285
You know, let's go.
1543
01:21:16,319 --> 01:21:19,081
And he's like, no, let me give
it to that lady over there
1544
01:21:19,115 --> 01:21:20,461
with her little boy.
1545
01:21:20,496 --> 01:21:22,670
So, he goes up to her
and he gives her the fish
1546
01:21:22,705 --> 01:21:26,433
and she's like ecstatic and
she's going, gracias, gracias.
1547
01:21:26,467 --> 01:21:29,194
And then he says, wait a minute,
I have to take a picture.
1548
01:21:29,229 --> 01:21:32,715
So he gets his camera and he
takes a picture of the fish,
1549
01:21:32,749 --> 01:21:34,268
of her holding the fish.
1550
01:21:38,376 --> 01:21:41,068
And that was the last
shot on his camera.
1551
01:21:46,487 --> 01:21:50,284
When I got home and
things went weird
1552
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:52,114
and he died the day after.
1553
01:21:52,148 --> 01:21:55,324
And a week later, I
developed the film
1554
01:21:55,358 --> 01:21:59,017
and there was the last picture.
1555
01:21:59,052 --> 01:22:02,055
[melancholic music]
1556
01:22:10,684 --> 01:22:15,378
My saving grace is that my
son's last words to me were,
1557
01:22:15,413 --> 01:22:18,347
he went out the door,
and I called his name,
1558
01:22:18,381 --> 01:22:22,040
and he turned around, and I
said, Dave I want you to know
1559
01:22:22,075 --> 01:22:23,524
that I love you.
1560
01:22:23,559 --> 01:22:25,941
And he said to me,
I love you too, Ma.
1561
01:22:25,975 --> 01:22:28,978
And that was it and that
was last time I saw him.
1562
01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:34,018
And that, for me,
makes it all okay.
1563
01:22:43,027 --> 01:22:43,820
- Police called.
1564
01:22:45,029 --> 01:22:47,963
They said they'd be at
the house in 15 minutes
1565
01:22:47,997 --> 01:22:51,345
and it was like, the longest
15 minutes of my life.
1566
01:22:53,554 --> 01:22:56,626
I mean, time was just
completely suspended,
1567
01:22:56,661 --> 01:23:01,321
it seemed like a
tunnel, endless tunnel.
1568
01:23:05,394 --> 01:23:07,637
They come over and
they said to my mother,
1569
01:23:07,672 --> 01:23:09,398
your child is dead.
1570
01:23:11,676 --> 01:23:13,609
The first thing that
came to mind was,
1571
01:23:15,749 --> 01:23:20,478
thank God, he's safe,
thank God, he's safe.
1572
01:23:21,962 --> 01:23:25,897
Which was the fucking
truth, you know what I mean?
1573
01:23:27,657 --> 01:23:29,970
It was like, ahh, he's free.
1574
01:23:31,420 --> 01:23:35,182
You know, yeah, it fucking
sucks for us big time
1575
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:39,290
but he was free. [sobbing]
1576
01:23:43,225 --> 01:23:44,467
He was free.
1577
01:23:44,502 --> 01:23:45,503
- [Woman] Woo!
1578
01:23:49,472 --> 01:23:52,165
[waves crashing]
1579
01:23:53,373 --> 01:23:56,065
- I know for a fact,
he did not want to die
1580
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:58,171
sick in the hospital.
1581
01:23:58,205 --> 01:23:59,793
He had been in the
hospital his whole life,
1582
01:23:59,827 --> 01:24:02,278
he was like, I don't want to
die in a hospital, you know?
1583
01:24:02,313 --> 01:24:07,318
I don't wanna die like a
sick person in a hospital.
1584
01:24:07,870 --> 01:24:08,422
You know?
1585
01:24:08,457 --> 01:24:09,251
Just wanna go.
1586
01:24:14,842 --> 01:24:17,052
- He was there for me in some
1587
01:24:17,086 --> 01:24:18,915
of the darkest times of my life.
1588
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:20,883
He helped me, like, get
out of the darkness.
1589
01:24:20,917 --> 01:24:23,265
I remember him, like,
reaching out to me
1590
01:24:23,299 --> 01:24:25,301
and saying, dude,
this is not good.
1591
01:24:25,336 --> 01:24:29,512
You know, come out and stuff,
come with us, come back to us.
1592
01:24:40,730 --> 01:24:45,735
You know, I think a lot of who
I am today is because of him.
1593
01:24:49,705 --> 01:24:52,570
[water dripping]
1594
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,094
[thunder rumbling]
1595
01:25:06,308 --> 01:25:09,173
[thunder crashing]
1596
01:25:10,450 --> 01:25:13,660
- I remember when we
went to the morgue.
1597
01:25:13,694 --> 01:25:15,075
He was smiling.
1598
01:25:16,111 --> 01:25:18,975
He was like, he was smiling.
1599
01:25:19,010 --> 01:25:21,668
And we were all like, [gasps]
1600
01:25:21,702 --> 01:25:23,118
and we all said it
at the same time,
1601
01:25:23,152 --> 01:25:26,742
like, was that he's
smiling. [chuckles]
1602
01:25:26,776 --> 01:25:27,950
That was like the biggest gift
1603
01:25:27,984 --> 01:25:31,091
that he could leave
behind for us.
1604
01:25:33,714 --> 01:25:35,785
And he had it his way, you know?
1605
01:25:35,820 --> 01:25:37,442
It could only be his way.
1606
01:25:37,477 --> 01:25:38,857
Always.
1607
01:25:38,892 --> 01:25:41,515
It was always like, okay,
Davide gets his way.
1608
01:25:41,550 --> 01:25:43,483
You know what I mean,
you didn't even argue.
1609
01:25:46,348 --> 01:25:48,108
- [Jaime] When I say we mourned,
1610
01:25:48,143 --> 01:25:50,248
like, New York City mourned.
1611
01:25:50,283 --> 01:25:53,527
It was like everybody
had a moment of silence.
1612
01:25:55,702 --> 01:25:59,602
So, I think that love
obviously affected people
1613
01:25:59,637 --> 01:26:02,674
to the point where
it became a thing.
1614
01:26:02,709 --> 01:26:04,504
- You know, I'd go
to a photo shoot
1615
01:26:04,538 --> 01:26:06,161
and all I would do was cry.
1616
01:26:07,714 --> 01:26:09,819
I'd be shooting through tears.
1617
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,822
I couldn't imagine
all these mothers
1618
01:26:12,857 --> 01:26:14,376
who had lost their children.
1619
01:26:14,410 --> 01:26:19,139
I said, what are we a secret
society of people in deep pain?
1620
01:26:19,967 --> 01:26:21,417
- We knew people in the industry
1621
01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:24,938
and Amy Spindler is a writer
for the New York Times
1622
01:26:24,972 --> 01:26:29,977
and knew that Francesca was
concerned about younger kids
1623
01:26:31,151 --> 01:26:32,911
in the business
getting into drugs.
1624
01:26:32,946 --> 01:26:35,845
- [Francesca] And it started
a whole ball rolling.
1625
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,916
- You sent sent a strong
message against drugs
1626
01:26:37,951 --> 01:26:39,987
at Davide's funeral
to the mourners.
1627
01:26:40,022 --> 01:26:44,578
- I said, you cannot
glamorize drugs
1628
01:26:47,616 --> 01:26:50,135
and I looked at
Davide, and I said,
1629
01:26:50,170 --> 01:26:53,587
this is what drugs
do, this is real,
1630
01:26:53,622 --> 01:26:55,624
what you are all doing isn't.
1631
01:26:56,763 --> 01:26:59,938
- [Mario] My mother
tried to turn
it into something positive.
1632
01:26:59,973 --> 01:27:01,837
She tried to make
it into an example
1633
01:27:01,871 --> 01:27:06,048
so that other young kids
wouldn't fall into that trap
1634
01:27:06,082 --> 01:27:10,639
of glamour and drugs, which
still exists today in fashion
1635
01:27:10,673 --> 01:27:12,641
and hasn't gone anywhere.
1636
01:27:12,675 --> 01:27:15,954
- Davide's death was a
lightning rod for that whole
1637
01:27:15,989 --> 01:27:21,408
thing to sort of, just, I
dunno, you know, explode.
1638
01:27:22,823 --> 01:27:25,964
- [Reporter] Tonight, the
fabulous world of high fashion,
1639
01:27:25,999 --> 01:27:28,346
glamour, allure, models,
1640
01:27:28,381 --> 01:27:31,798
but behind the scenes some
have shocking secrets.
1641
01:27:31,832 --> 01:27:32,833
- Cocaine, heroin--
1642
01:27:32,868 --> 01:27:37,182
- I'm getting calls
from CNN, 20/20.
1643
01:27:37,217 --> 01:27:38,805
Before I know it, you know,
1644
01:27:38,839 --> 01:27:41,463
President Clinton
is making a comment.
1645
01:27:41,497 --> 01:27:43,603
- Today the President
blasted designers
1646
01:27:43,637 --> 01:27:46,122
who use the heroin look
to sell their clothes.
1647
01:27:46,157 --> 01:27:49,333
[audience applauding]
1648
01:27:50,679 --> 01:27:52,267
- In the press, in recent days,
1649
01:27:52,301 --> 01:27:55,408
we've seen reports and
many of our fashion leaders
1650
01:27:55,442 --> 01:27:56,823
are now absolutely admitting,
1651
01:27:56,857 --> 01:27:58,687
and I honor them for doing this,
1652
01:27:58,721 --> 01:28:01,931
they're admitting flat
out that images projected
1653
01:28:01,966 --> 01:28:04,589
in fashion photos in
the last few years
1654
01:28:04,624 --> 01:28:08,041
have made heroin addiction seem
glamorous and sexy and cool.
1655
01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:11,458
And as some of the
people in those images
1656
01:28:11,493 --> 01:28:14,081
start to die, now,
it's become obvious
1657
01:28:14,116 --> 01:28:15,669
that that is not true.
1658
01:28:16,877 --> 01:28:20,122
You do not need to glamorize
addiction so close.
1659
01:28:20,156 --> 01:28:21,744
- When Bill Clinton
talked about it,
1660
01:28:21,779 --> 01:28:23,505
I mean, everybody
was like, what?
1661
01:28:24,540 --> 01:28:25,886
This is out of control.
1662
01:28:25,921 --> 01:28:28,475
- The glorification of
heroin is not creative,
1663
01:28:28,510 --> 01:28:31,064
it's destructive, it's
not beautiful, it is ugly
1664
01:28:32,583 --> 01:28:34,757
and this is not about art
it's about life and death
1665
01:28:36,103 --> 01:28:38,796
and glorifying death is
not good for any society.
1666
01:28:40,315 --> 01:28:42,627
- [Mario] All the sudden
we were just like attacked.
1667
01:28:42,662 --> 01:28:44,733
It was bad, it was negative.
1668
01:28:44,767 --> 01:28:48,081
We really wanted to try
and mourn in privacy.
1669
01:28:48,115 --> 01:28:51,153
It just became like this
huge public scandal.
1670
01:28:52,603 --> 01:28:55,364
- All of these people started
turning all of the images
1671
01:28:55,399 --> 01:28:57,884
that we had made and they're
like, oh this is the image
1672
01:28:57,918 --> 01:28:58,954
of heroin chic.
1673
01:28:58,988 --> 01:29:00,438
- [Mutale] This image,
more than any other,
1674
01:29:00,473 --> 01:29:02,923
has come to epitomize
Davide's association
1675
01:29:02,958 --> 01:29:05,374
with a glamorization of heroin.
1676
01:29:05,409 --> 01:29:07,756
- [Jaime] I distinctly remember
when I posted this picture
1677
01:29:07,790 --> 01:29:09,482
that Davide had taken of me.
1678
01:29:11,311 --> 01:29:14,072
We were portraying the
idea of people dying
1679
01:29:14,107 --> 01:29:15,177
before their time.
1680
01:29:17,697 --> 01:29:20,907
- There's always this ideal
that if you blame somebody,
1681
01:29:20,941 --> 01:29:23,219
it will fix the problem as
opposed to actually really
1682
01:29:23,254 --> 01:29:24,531
addressing the
problem, which was,
1683
01:29:24,566 --> 01:29:26,499
you know, why are all these kids
1684
01:29:26,533 --> 01:29:29,605
who are 16 to 18,
feeling so despondent
1685
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,745
that they have to take drugs.
1686
01:29:31,780 --> 01:29:33,747
- [Richard] And it got to
the point where it was,
1687
01:29:33,782 --> 01:29:36,301
it was almost like, a panic.
1688
01:29:36,336 --> 01:29:39,201
- It kills that whole era
of photography all together.
1689
01:29:40,651 --> 01:29:41,997
All the young talent,
that are no longer working
1690
01:29:42,031 --> 01:29:43,412
because they can't
find work because,
1691
01:29:43,447 --> 01:29:45,241
okay, we cannot do heroin chic
1692
01:29:45,276 --> 01:29:47,485
because advertising
wouldn't stand for it.
1693
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,385
Instead of nurturing these
people, it all wiped out.
1694
01:29:52,179 --> 01:29:53,422
- Sometimes it's so
much easier to say,
1695
01:29:53,457 --> 01:29:55,493
oh yeah, my friend died
of a heroin overdose.
1696
01:29:55,528 --> 01:29:57,737
But, he didn't die
of a heroin overdose.
1697
01:29:57,771 --> 01:30:00,429
He died of Cooley's anemia mix.
1698
01:30:00,464 --> 01:30:03,881
'Cause the amount of
heroin that he did,
1699
01:30:04,951 --> 01:30:07,263
you and I, if I did
that or you did that
1700
01:30:07,298 --> 01:30:11,406
or any one of my friends
done that amount,
1701
01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:13,200
they wouldn't pass away.
1702
01:30:13,235 --> 01:30:15,513
- As tragic as his death was,
1703
01:30:15,548 --> 01:30:18,654
his life to me should
really be a celebration
1704
01:30:18,689 --> 01:30:21,208
and it shouldn't
be about drug use.
1705
01:30:21,243 --> 01:30:22,796
That's the irony of it all,
1706
01:30:22,831 --> 01:30:25,212
that that's what's being
talked about all the time
1707
01:30:25,247 --> 01:30:28,802
when it was such a brief
part of the totality
1708
01:30:28,837 --> 01:30:31,460
of the relationships and
the totality of the art
1709
01:30:31,495 --> 01:30:33,393
that was being created.
1710
01:30:33,428 --> 01:30:36,431
I'm so grateful that for
the short period of time
1711
01:30:36,465 --> 01:30:37,742
that he was here on this planet,
1712
01:30:37,777 --> 01:30:41,677
that I got to partake in
the beauty of his heart
1713
01:30:41,712 --> 01:30:42,506
and his soul.
1714
01:30:43,886 --> 01:30:47,959
- Davide represented an era
whether he liked it or not,
1715
01:30:47,994 --> 01:30:49,582
he did become a poster boy.
1716
01:30:51,411 --> 01:30:53,655
I received hundreds of letters
from all over the world
1717
01:30:53,689 --> 01:30:56,830
from young kids who were
shocked that he had died
1718
01:30:56,865 --> 01:30:58,383
and wanted to know
more about him.
1719
01:30:58,418 --> 01:31:01,179
People writing me that
his passing helped them
1720
01:31:01,214 --> 01:31:04,493
because they felt that
Dave was like them.
1721
01:31:04,528 --> 01:31:07,703
Just a normal kid, who was
creative and got caught up
1722
01:31:07,738 --> 01:31:11,880
and they'd stop doing
drugs because of Dave.
1723
01:31:11,914 --> 01:31:14,814
His passing saved
so many people.
1724
01:31:17,057 --> 01:31:19,128
- But, you know, you
know about his work.
1725
01:31:19,957 --> 01:31:21,993
He changed your life.
1726
01:31:22,028 --> 01:31:24,271
He changed my life, he changed
a lot of people's lives
1727
01:31:24,306 --> 01:31:25,894
and he will continue to do so.
1728
01:31:28,241 --> 01:31:30,105
And people will continue
to ask questions,
1729
01:31:30,139 --> 01:31:32,038
which is, I think, the
most important thing.
1730
01:31:32,072 --> 01:31:34,730
It's not all black and white.
1731
01:31:34,765 --> 01:31:36,214
It's not this and it's not that,
1732
01:31:36,249 --> 01:31:40,874
it's not one way or another,
it's everything put together
1733
01:31:41,737 --> 01:31:43,705
to make a person real.
1734
01:31:43,739 --> 01:31:46,052
And I think that's what Davide
was always searching for
1735
01:31:46,086 --> 01:31:50,953
was the real, real people,
like he called them,
1736
01:31:50,988 --> 01:31:52,886
you're real people,
you're good people.
1737
01:31:52,921 --> 01:31:54,232
That's all he wanted in his life
1738
01:31:54,267 --> 01:31:56,372
was to be surrounded
by real good people.
1739
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,341
And I think he was.
1740
01:32:00,653 --> 01:32:04,277
- I think Davide's work was
really a reflection of his time
1741
01:32:04,311 --> 01:32:09,282
and his generation and a group
of kids that were growing up
1742
01:32:10,594 --> 01:32:12,527
and emerging in New York City.
1743
01:32:14,011 --> 01:32:16,392
Was very young, it was
like, at the beginning
1744
01:32:16,427 --> 01:32:20,535
of his career, was like,
really the first sprouting
1745
01:32:20,569 --> 01:32:21,536
of the seed.
1746
01:32:23,192 --> 01:32:25,678
- [Man] What is it that you
like about documentaries?
1747
01:32:27,024 --> 01:32:29,647
- Basically, like, trying
to capture somebody's life
1748
01:32:29,682 --> 01:32:32,547
and somebody else's life
but at the same time
1749
01:32:32,581 --> 01:32:34,100
they're all close to you.
1750
01:32:34,134 --> 01:32:39,139
Kind of like, that quote
in a book called like,
1751
01:32:40,555 --> 01:32:42,349
I'll be your mirror.
1752
01:32:42,384 --> 01:32:44,938
You know, like, everything
you do reflects on me
1753
01:32:44,973 --> 01:32:46,733
and then I have it, you know?
1754
01:32:46,768 --> 01:32:49,598
It's kind of like looking
in the mirror, pause,
1755
01:32:49,633 --> 01:32:52,981
and there it is and
it's not going anywhere
1756
01:32:53,015 --> 01:32:55,086
because you just
have it right there.
1757
01:32:55,121 --> 01:32:59,297
You pause time and it's
just fricken' amazing.
1758
01:32:59,332 --> 01:33:00,609
It's really rad.
1759
01:33:00,644 --> 01:33:04,751
- [Man] Yeah, I'm gonna
pause time for a second.
1760
01:33:04,786 --> 01:33:06,063
- What does that do?
1761
01:33:07,029 --> 01:33:11,206
["Davide's Song"
by Steve Sutton]
1762
01:33:17,661 --> 01:33:19,110
♪ The sound of your laugh
1763
01:33:19,145 --> 01:33:20,974
♪ The turn of a phrase
1764
01:33:21,009 --> 01:33:24,012
♪ The way that your
smile lit up your face ♪
1765
01:33:24,046 --> 01:33:27,532
♪ Your changing mood
and you're in pain ♪
1766
01:33:27,567 --> 01:33:30,846
♪ Stubborn ways
threw us all insane ♪
1767
01:33:30,881 --> 01:33:33,953
♪ People you touched,
stories you told ♪
1768
01:33:33,987 --> 01:33:38,992
♪ You looked so young
but you seemed so old ♪
1769
01:33:40,753 --> 01:33:44,135
♪ I remember you, Davide
1770
01:33:44,170 --> 01:33:47,242
♪ I remember you far too well
1771
01:33:47,276 --> 01:33:51,073
♪ Every day without you
1772
01:33:51,108 --> 01:33:56,113
♪ Well, it's a living hell
1773
01:33:57,977 --> 01:34:02,982
♪ It's a living hell
1774
01:34:04,466 --> 01:34:06,157
♪ The way you slept all day
1775
01:34:06,192 --> 01:34:08,159
♪ Gone all night
1776
01:34:08,194 --> 01:34:11,197
♪ The way you always thought
that you were right ♪
1777
01:34:11,231 --> 01:34:12,508
♪ That mess in your room
1778
01:34:12,543 --> 01:34:14,649
♪ And the loud headphones
1779
01:34:14,683 --> 01:34:17,686
♪ The way your friends
used to call nonstop ♪
1780
01:34:17,721 --> 01:34:19,067
♪ The slang that you used
1781
01:34:19,101 --> 01:34:21,207
♪ The way that you dressed
1782
01:34:21,241 --> 01:34:26,246
♪ You wanted everyone
to be impressed ♪
1783
01:34:27,489 --> 01:34:30,665
♪ I remember you, Davide
1784
01:34:30,699 --> 01:34:33,840
♪ I remember you far too well
1785
01:34:33,875 --> 01:34:37,913
♪ And every day without you
1786
01:34:37,948 --> 01:34:42,953
♪ Well, it's a living hell
1787
01:34:44,299 --> 01:34:49,304
♪ It's a living hell
1788
01:34:50,926 --> 01:34:52,445
♪ The way you loved to cook
1789
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,240
♪ Cameras come for you
1790
01:34:54,274 --> 01:34:57,450
♪ This feeling you have
in everything you do ♪
1791
01:34:57,484 --> 01:34:59,141
♪ The way you loved to look
1792
01:34:59,176 --> 01:35:00,729
♪ The way you loved to ski
1793
01:35:00,764 --> 01:35:03,801
♪ The way you loved the fish
and ride waves in the sea ♪
1794
01:35:03,836 --> 01:35:05,320
♪ The photos you took
1795
01:35:05,354 --> 01:35:07,046
♪ The paintings you made
1796
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:12,085
♪ The stories they
tell will never fade ♪
1797
01:35:13,846 --> 01:35:17,021
♪ I remember you, Davide
1798
01:35:17,056 --> 01:35:20,024
♪ I remember you far too well
1799
01:35:20,059 --> 01:35:23,683
♪ And everyday without you
1800
01:35:23,718 --> 01:35:28,723
♪ Well, it's a living hell
1801
01:35:30,345 --> 01:35:33,762
♪ It's a living hell
1802
01:35:33,797 --> 01:35:37,076
[acoustic guitar solo]
1803
01:36:00,168 --> 01:36:03,136
♪ Well, I remember you, Davide
1804
01:36:03,171 --> 01:36:06,312
♪ I remember you far too well
1805
01:36:06,346 --> 01:36:10,316
♪ And everyday without you
1806
01:36:10,350 --> 01:36:15,252
♪ Well, it's a living hell
1807
01:36:16,805 --> 01:36:21,776
♪ It's a living hell
1808
01:36:22,984 --> 01:36:26,194
♪ It's a living hell
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