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Chelan's amazing.
Happy, beautiful.
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She used all her money on drugs.
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She went from having her
photography business,
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and working,
and a great family life,
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and her three children,
to...
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Living on the streets.
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♪
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She's prostituting
to get her heroin.
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Hey, you looking
for a date? Yeah?
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For a date, I usually
charge about 60, $70,
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every 15 minutes...
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Which all goes to heroin.
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♪
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One weekend she took the kids
to their respective fathers and
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did not pick them up.
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Ouch.
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My worst fear is that
she's going to
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get the wrong heroin and it's
gonna have fentanyl in it,
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and she's gonna die.
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(Groans)
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♪
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I want to get my,
my daughter back.
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♪
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♪
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♪
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Remember, when you
used to come over?
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Remember, you used to brush
my hair, you and (beep)?
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Yeah.
‐ Remember that?
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My name's Chelan, I'm 29.
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I was successful;
I was someone.
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And, you know,
I was a mother.
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Right now I'm staying,
at night time,
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with my friend Alesha.
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I suppose you want whipped cream
on that hot chocolate, too, eh?
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Yes, please.
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Ready to go do your hair?
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It's in my room.
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You can take it and put it
in the bathroom, if you like.
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So how is school this year?
‐ Good.
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Yeah? All your friends
are in your class?
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Uh‐huh.
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Chelan's amazing ‐
happy, beautiful.
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Easily approachable...
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Would give you her shirt
off her back to help ya.
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I noticed this week,
being here, that you...
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Like to push your
mama's buttons, eh?
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Yeah.
‐ Yeah.
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She's got three kids.
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Chelan loves her boys.
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They were always
number one in her life.
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The kids had the best costumes
and the nicest clothes.
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There were a number of times
when I looked at her
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and thought,
what a good mom.
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All right,
everybody.
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♪
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She was always active,
outdoorsy type person.
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Okay, bye, Matteah.
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You're welcome.
Thanks for the ride.
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I will talk to you after.
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All right.
Stay safe out there.
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She was sporty.
She was great with her kids.
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Now, that drugs has
taken over her life...
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She's none of that anymore.
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I am addicted to heroin.
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♪
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I'm using about a half
gram to a gram of heroin,
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give or take, each day.
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It depends on how
much money I have.
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When you smoke,
give me a couple puffs?
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Yeah? Okay, sweet.
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And I did, I actually did like
too much heroin, like...
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(Laughs)
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She went from working
and a great family life,
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and her three
children, to...
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Living on the streets.
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♪
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Okay, I'm just gonna go get
ready right now and
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go and try and make some money.
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She's prostituting to,
to get her heroin.
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You looking for a date?
Yeah?
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I don't feel like
she's my daughter.
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This feels like the drugs
is controlling her life.
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♪
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I enjoy the high of
heroin 'cause it,
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it relaxes me.
It...
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it's like a big Band‐Aid,
I always said.
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You know, it makes any of my
emotional pain or anything,
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it, it takes it away.
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Makes, you know...
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Everything's okay.
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Yeah,
affection feels good.
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♪
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She just looks like...
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A zombie from an apocalypse.
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Because her face is
so just chewed up from,
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from the drugs.
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Her kids aren't a
priority anymore.
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Nobody matters in
Chelan's life anymore.
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Nobody except
for finding drugs.
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Do you have any heroin?
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I've only got five bucks...
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right now, and I'm
like really sick.
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She's been on the streets.
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You guys don't ‐
you don't have any down?
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Some crack shacks and drug
houses that she has stayed in.
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You hear about a
body being found...
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Hi.
‐ Hi.
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Did you want me to get in?
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I can just see it, you know,
waiting for that
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phone call from my dad, or...
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Someone saying that,
you know, she's,
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she's gone.
She's dead.
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♪
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There's a lot of
memories with Chelan.
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Me and Chelan
were really close.
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Chelan was
always very active.
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We lived in a
cul‐de‐sac with my dad,
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and she had tons
and tons of friends.
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She was always
outside playing with them.
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Chelan was happy‐go‐lucky.
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She liked being around people;
always smiling.
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Chelan had a really special
relationship with my dad.
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I was the
favourite, you know...
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I came first
before everyone else.
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And love her, I mean,
I only want the best for her.
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But ah...
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I probably wasn't
the best father.
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My dad's parenting
style was he was drunk.
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I was an alcoholic;
I still am an alcoholic.
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I was drinking
upwards of a 26'er a day.
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But you know,
I remember my dad, like,
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when he
would drink, like...
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He did a lot of like
insensitive things.
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He didn't really,
you know,
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take care of my
two older siblings.
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Family was very unhealthy,
very not functional.
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Like, it wasn't...
happy times.
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Like my mom was
always bitchy,
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and my dad was always drunk.
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I couldn't be around my
dad and his alcoholism,
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so I cut it all out.
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I left when I was 19,
to go work in Alberta.
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And, I had very little
contact with any of
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my family because my
dad was a drunk,
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straight drunk.
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♪
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I think I felt really alone.
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Really, really alone.
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♪
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My dad just left, too.
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Just left us right
after Christmas.
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And I think my mom was maybe
so stressed out from my dad
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that she, she didn't have...
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The energy to pay
attention to...
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What... was going on with me.
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♪
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I felt like I was
just such a burden.
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We were definitely partying
and going out drinking,
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and using other
recreational drugs.
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And then she met (beep).
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He was kind of
like the bad boy.
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He had money to play with.
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They had fun
together in the beginning.
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Then, all of sudden,
now she's pregnant.
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Her first two children
were born in the same year,
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one in January,
one in December,
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later that year.
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He was into selling drugs,
all that kind of stuff.
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He cheated on
me all the time.
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Like, it was just...
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up and down.
It was ‐
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like, I left him two weeks
after I had my second son.
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♪
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Chelan did really
well as a single mom.
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She was amazing.
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Her kids had
everything they wanted.
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I was proud. I had these
two beautiful little boys
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who I was taking care of.
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They gave me
motivation to better myself.
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She started going back to
school for a program that
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was tailored specifically
for young mothers.
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Shortly after that,
she met Chris.
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Chris was so nice,
accepting, didn't drink...
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Didn't really party...
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He took on her boys
like they were his own.
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My brother did everything
for Chelan's two boys.
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We just moved into
this nice house.
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I was happy.
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I was starting my
photography business.
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That was her pride and joy.
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She would always take
pictures of her kids,
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go around taking pictures
of other people's families.
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She did my maternity
photo shoot for me.
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It seemed like Chelan
captured true moments,
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like, true, realness
through people.
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She was able to bring out a lot
of happiness in a lot of people.
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I saw that she was
putting her family first.
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She resented me
for quite a while,
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but then we slowly started
to have a good relationship.
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We were buddy buddies again.
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She blossomed
into a homemaker,
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a potential wife;
they got engaged.
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She became pregnant.
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Those were the
happiest days of my life.
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I was taking care of
both my kids, like, I...
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I was so happy;
I really was.
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I loved being a mother.
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But, I know that
after Chelan had Zayden,
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Chris had a
detachment from her.
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And, the pressure of them
both working full‐time,
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and the pressure of
having three children
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became too much,
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and the relationship
just deteriorated.
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Chris was
driving me to work.
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When he dropped me off,
he just was like...
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"I don't love you anymore".
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My reality...
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like, just broke.
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♪
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I didn't know, like,
who I was anymore, like...
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My family,
this, you know,
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beautiful family
that I had was...
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Just over.
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She's not good
at being single.
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Chelan does not
like to be alone.
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I wanted to feel
like I was wanted,
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and that, you know...
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I could still be loved.
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And then she met (beep).
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He loved and
accepted her, and...
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Also fed her
prescription drugs.
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♪
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And that's when
everything changed.
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She went from having
her photography business, to...
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Living on the streets.
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♪
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She used all her
money on drugs.
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And the boys were
eating from the food bank,
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if they were eating.
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Her relationship with her
boyfriend turned abusive.
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She was scared to leave him.
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There was just no
hope at that point,
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and, one weekend she
took the kids to their
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respective fathers and
did not pick them up.
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Said, "I do not want to
be a mother right now.
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I do not want
this responsibility.
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Nobody find me,
just leave me alone".
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I finally did see her,
in public.
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She had more than
one purse, and a bag,
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and a backpack; that was
the first time I knew
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they were out on the street.
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Chelan became...
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a ghost in less
than two years.
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♪
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When (beep) went to jail,
Chelan was alone on the street.
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And she didn't have anybody
to get her the things that
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she needed to get high, so
she started prostituting.
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00:12:09,103 --> 00:12:12,148
For a date, I usually
charge about 60, $70
259
00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:13,691
every 15 minutes.
260
00:12:13,775 --> 00:12:16,319
Some days I can make
two, three hundred bucks...
261
00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:19,530
Which all goes to heroin.
262
00:12:19,614 --> 00:12:20,823
Hey.
263
00:12:20,907 --> 00:12:23,076
It's very dangerous to be
a drug addict in Kamloops.
264
00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:25,328
People are dying
right, left, and center.
265
00:12:25,411 --> 00:12:33,628
♪
266
00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:35,755
When I first
started doing dates,
267
00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:39,759
I'd get people to walk
on the other side of the street.
268
00:12:39,842 --> 00:12:42,053
Just keep track
of cars, you know,
269
00:12:42,136 --> 00:12:46,015
'cause if you don't
come back, you know...
270
00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:47,475
He's in jail, dude,
for like a long time.
271
00:12:47,517 --> 00:12:48,643
And he's gonna be in
there for like ‐
272
00:12:48,685 --> 00:12:51,813
He's gonna probably go
to the penitentiary.
273
00:12:51,854 --> 00:12:54,774
Can you... do a puff with me?
274
00:12:54,857 --> 00:12:56,693
I've got no money left.
275
00:12:56,776 --> 00:12:59,362
'Cause I want to give
some money to my kids.
276
00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:02,407
Yeah, I've got three sons.
277
00:13:02,490 --> 00:13:12,458
♪
278
00:13:15,545 --> 00:13:17,964
If she continues on the path
that she's on right now and
279
00:13:18,047 --> 00:13:20,925
hanging out with the people that
I've seen her hang out with...
280
00:13:21,009 --> 00:13:23,136
♪
281
00:13:23,219 --> 00:13:28,057
She will end up
dead or in jail.
282
00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:36,983
So, any big plans today?
Just go, same old?
283
00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:38,318
Same old, same old.
284
00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:41,863
Right now I'm
staying with Alesha, and...
285
00:13:41,946 --> 00:13:44,824
I, I appreciate what
she's doing for me.
286
00:13:44,866 --> 00:13:47,201
But I, you know, I feel...
287
00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:49,495
Like I'm stressing
her out a little bit.
288
00:13:49,579 --> 00:13:54,417
I'm just trying to figure out
where to get some heroin.
289
00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:57,462
I have to start work at 11.
I was late yesterday.
290
00:13:57,503 --> 00:13:58,963
Well, I'm ready
to go whenever.
291
00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:01,924
All right, I'm good.
292
00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:03,384
Do you know where
you're going there?
293
00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:04,469
Just...
294
00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,596
making a couple texts right
now and see where
295
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,640
people are at and
where I can go.
296
00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:10,850
I don't know;
I guess I don't like,
297
00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:12,435
I don't feel safe
like just being
298
00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:13,811
out on the streets anymore.
299
00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:17,065
That's why I, I guess,
come to her house often.
300
00:14:17,148 --> 00:14:18,649
I've just tried to
be there for her,
301
00:14:18,733 --> 00:14:21,861
non‐judgmentally.
Keep an eye on her.
302
00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:25,406
My involvement has
definitely increased.
303
00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:26,532
I worry more.
304
00:14:26,616 --> 00:14:30,286
It's a fine line between
enabling and for harm reduction.
305
00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,663
It's like, I want to help,
but I also know
306
00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,248
that I can't make
it easy for her.
307
00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:41,297
Oh, 100%, yeah. I know.
308
00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,935
Oh, 100%.
309
00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:55,895
Okay, have a good day.
310
00:14:55,978 --> 00:14:58,773
(Phone ringing)
311
00:14:58,856 --> 00:15:01,150
Hey, do you have
any down on you?
312
00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:02,944
Yeah?
313
00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:08,157
Sweet. Okay, bye.
314
00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,327
(Groans)
315
00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:13,996
All right.
316
00:15:14,038 --> 00:15:16,541
(Sighs)
(Beep)!
317
00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:21,921
♪
318
00:15:22,004 --> 00:15:24,215
(Whispers)
This drives me mental.
319
00:15:24,298 --> 00:15:26,384
I've pulled my
hair about before, like,
320
00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:29,512
literally pulled my hair out
when I've had no heroin.
321
00:15:29,595 --> 00:15:33,933
The emotional pain that
I start feeling is...
322
00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:36,144
Is unbearable.
323
00:15:36,227 --> 00:15:39,105
♪
324
00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:40,398
Ouch.
325
00:15:40,481 --> 00:15:45,236
♪
326
00:15:45,319 --> 00:15:47,280
I need to relax.
327
00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:53,786
♪
328
00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:55,329
(Beep) sakes.
329
00:15:55,371 --> 00:15:57,790
I'm really
frustrated right now.
330
00:15:57,874 --> 00:15:59,834
(Sighs)
331
00:15:59,876 --> 00:16:02,795
I've had times when I
can't hit a vein...
332
00:16:02,837 --> 00:16:05,673
Like, I'll get emotional.
333
00:16:05,756 --> 00:16:07,091
It's so frustrating.
334
00:16:07,175 --> 00:16:09,302
Especially if that's like
all the heroin you have and
335
00:16:09,385 --> 00:16:11,345
you can't get it in you,
and you're dope sick
336
00:16:11,429 --> 00:16:12,555
and you're just...
337
00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:14,932
You know,
it's like frustrating.
338
00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:17,101
Like, everything
would set me off.
339
00:16:17,185 --> 00:16:22,523
♪
340
00:16:22,607 --> 00:16:24,066
(Knocking)
341
00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,198
(Beep) sakes.
342
00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,874
Wait until you don't
have to do this anymore.
343
00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:40,875
Oh, it'll be nice.
344
00:16:40,958 --> 00:16:42,168
Won't it?
‐ Yep.
345
00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:43,920
My dad was a
severe alcoholic,
346
00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,380
our entire lives,
until just recently.
347
00:16:46,464 --> 00:16:53,304
♪
348
00:16:53,387 --> 00:16:56,766
I'd like to see Chelan
before I go into the hospital.
349
00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,184
It's a serious
operation, like,
350
00:16:58,267 --> 00:17:00,144
it's major surgery.
‐ Yeah.
351
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:04,023
And, there's
always a chance that...
352
00:17:04,106 --> 00:17:05,816
You'll pass away.
353
00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:09,111
I haven't seen
Chelan in almost a year.
354
00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:10,488
I've messaged her.
355
00:17:10,571 --> 00:17:14,200
It's like she avoids me
because of the drugs.
356
00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:17,078
I've told other people,
"If you see Chelan,
357
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,913
you know, tell her she
can come to my house.
358
00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:20,122
I'll feed her."
359
00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:21,207
I'll never turn
my back on her;
360
00:17:21,290 --> 00:17:23,084
she's still my daughter.
361
00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:26,295
I had a huge resentment
towards Chelan because the
362
00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,048
drugs started to
come into play.
363
00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:31,300
I think now that
my dad is sober,
364
00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:34,262
I'm just starting to
let go of the resentment.
365
00:17:34,345 --> 00:17:36,889
Everybody deserves
a second chance.
366
00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:38,307
Yep.
367
00:17:38,349 --> 00:17:39,850
Chelan knows that,
that our dad
368
00:17:39,934 --> 00:17:42,228
needs to have a
kidney transplant.
369
00:17:42,311 --> 00:17:44,647
He's not gonna
survive much longer.
370
00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:47,525
We'll go for a walk and
see if we can find her.
371
00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:52,780
Okay.
372
00:17:52,863 --> 00:17:55,324
It'll be good for
you to see her.
373
00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:56,826
Yeah...
374
00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:58,619
I'm a little bit nervous.
375
00:17:58,703 --> 00:18:00,329
Now that my dad's sober,
376
00:18:00,371 --> 00:18:02,164
I think he makes
more of an effort.
377
00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,709
I think he wants
to be a grandad.
378
00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:07,712
And I think he wants to
have his children around.
379
00:18:07,795 --> 00:18:10,965
And I think he's probably
hurting that he missed out
380
00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:14,510
on a lot of our childhoods.
381
00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:15,761
Okay, wish us luck.
382
00:18:15,845 --> 00:18:18,889
I know they hang
out down here.
383
00:18:18,973 --> 00:18:20,808
Nobody there.
384
00:18:23,227 --> 00:18:25,855
Hey!
385
00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,148
Hey, Sammy.
386
00:18:27,231 --> 00:18:29,317
What did you do
to your hair?
387
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,027
Cut it off.
‐ It's purple!
388
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,487
How are ya?
‐ I'm good, how are you?
389
00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:34,655
I'm good.
390
00:18:34,739 --> 00:18:35,823
Hi, Dad.
‐ Hi.
391
00:18:35,906 --> 00:18:37,575
How are you?
392
00:18:37,658 --> 00:18:39,994
♪
393
00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:42,288
You want to sit here?
Huh?
394
00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:43,914
Yeah, we can we sit
wherever you guys...
395
00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:44,999
Sit down.
396
00:18:45,041 --> 00:18:46,208
Want to go get a
coffee or something,
397
00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:47,293
or do you want
to just sit here?
398
00:18:47,335 --> 00:18:48,836
Yeah, yeah, let's
go get a coffee.
399
00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:50,880
We're having a
thing on Saturday.
400
00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:51,964
Yeah?
401
00:18:52,006 --> 00:18:54,091
So they wanted to have
like a dinner...
402
00:18:54,175 --> 00:18:55,301
At my place.
403
00:18:55,343 --> 00:18:57,637
And have either Chinese,
or whatever you like.
404
00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,430
Yeah?
405
00:18:59,513 --> 00:19:01,057
Well, do you guys want to
give me like ten minutes and
406
00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,642
then I'll come and
I'll talk with you guys?
407
00:19:02,725 --> 00:19:03,726
Yeah.
‐ Yeah?
408
00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:04,727
Yeah.
‐ Okay.
409
00:19:04,810 --> 00:19:06,395
We'll just walk down here.
‐ I'll be right back.
410
00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:12,318
♪
411
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:16,447
That's my dad and my sister.
Surprise! Oh, hey, guys!
412
00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:17,657
Yeah, like see them,
I was like,
413
00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:19,200
ah, you guys just
got to wait a second.
414
00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:22,161
I was like, I need to go
do something back here.
415
00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:24,372
Can you give me a
little bit more down?
416
00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:25,706
I'm going to make
money right away.
417
00:19:25,790 --> 00:19:28,626
I promise I'll give you ‐
like I'll even show you.
418
00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:29,835
I've got a date.
419
00:19:34,548 --> 00:19:38,177
♪
420
00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:39,679
That's what matters
to her right now,
421
00:19:39,762 --> 00:19:41,305
is her drugs.
422
00:19:41,347 --> 00:19:43,265
I've messaged her.
423
00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,142
I've told her
Chelan, you know,
424
00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:48,062
you just dropped me
out of your life.
425
00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:50,398
You know, your father.
426
00:19:50,481 --> 00:19:55,152
She goes, "Well, no, dad, I love
you more than the world..."
427
00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:58,906
"But right now I'm
running from life".
428
00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:00,533
Hello.
429
00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:08,416
♪
430
00:20:10,751 --> 00:20:11,961
Hello?
‐ Hey.
431
00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:13,671
Hi.
‐ Hi.
432
00:20:13,754 --> 00:20:19,844
So, I'm really tired
right now and I'm just...
433
00:20:19,927 --> 00:20:21,846
I'm coming over.
434
00:20:21,929 --> 00:20:24,473
I, I feel pretty bad for my dad.
435
00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:27,059
I know my dad's
not doing good,
436
00:20:27,143 --> 00:20:31,814
health‐wise, at all.
So, him passing away is...
437
00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:35,276
It's a big, you know,
chance.
438
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,987
Chelan called and she said
she was going to
439
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:40,322
go over to the house here.
‐ Okay, good.
440
00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:43,617
♪
441
00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:45,786
Hey, how are you?
‐ I'm good, how are you?
442
00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,204
Good.
443
00:20:47,288 --> 00:20:49,290
I was happy Chelan
showed up at my house;
444
00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:50,750
that means the world to me.
445
00:20:50,833 --> 00:20:52,960
Eat, eat, eat, eat.
446
00:20:53,002 --> 00:20:54,420
You're skinny.
447
00:20:54,503 --> 00:20:55,755
Usually almost
every day I could...
448
00:20:55,838 --> 00:20:59,049
like, I could easily
spend 100, 200 bucks.
449
00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:01,886
If I had the
money to do it...
450
00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:03,012
Wow.
451
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:04,180
How much money could
you spend on alcohol?
452
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:05,931
Yeah, dad, how much money?
‐ No, I know.
453
00:21:06,015 --> 00:21:07,433
Right, it's the same thing.
If I went to the bar,
454
00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:08,809
if I drank every day
at the bar...
455
00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:09,894
What's a 2‐6 cost?
456
00:21:09,977 --> 00:21:12,229
26 bucks, and that
would last you a night, right?
457
00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:14,732
And then you would
go to the bar and at,
458
00:21:14,815 --> 00:21:16,650
you know, what,
six bucks a beer...
459
00:21:16,734 --> 00:21:21,322
You would be there for
what, 'til, 'til close...
460
00:21:21,405 --> 00:21:24,116
But you can't turn
back the hands of time.
461
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,618
No, but you can
change the hands.
462
00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:28,329
That's right; you can,
you can...
463
00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:31,123
You can only look forward.
464
00:21:31,207 --> 00:21:32,958
My dad just...
465
00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:37,588
I don't think he ever really
did what a father should do.
466
00:21:37,671 --> 00:21:40,466
Like, you know, you don't
go spend all your money
467
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:44,178
on alcohol and there's
no food in the house, right.
468
00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:46,180
And like, I think those
are things that
469
00:21:46,263 --> 00:21:47,890
I sort of see in myself.
470
00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:53,687
(Groans)
471
00:21:53,771 --> 00:21:55,022
Go.
472
00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:04,240
♪
473
00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,534
She in the bathroom?
474
00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:09,370
(Knocking)
475
00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:10,830
Yeah?
‐ You okay?
476
00:22:10,913 --> 00:22:12,957
Yeah, I'm okay.
‐ Okay.
477
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,667
Just checking.
478
00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:24,677
♪
479
00:22:24,802 --> 00:22:34,770
♪
480
00:23:05,676 --> 00:23:07,094
(Groans)
481
00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:09,638
♪
482
00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:11,557
(Groans)
483
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:18,230
♪
484
00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:20,941
(Groans)
485
00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:30,993
♪
486
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,078
(Groans)
487
00:23:33,162 --> 00:23:43,088
♪
488
00:23:43,172 --> 00:23:53,140
♪
489
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:55,851
(Beep), I'm just
sweating balls here.
490
00:23:55,935 --> 00:24:05,903
♪
491
00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:11,408
Here she comes.
492
00:24:12,368 --> 00:24:15,704
(Beep), it's hot!
‐ It is hot.
493
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,081
Where's dad?
494
00:24:17,164 --> 00:24:18,874
He... in the living room.
495
00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:20,584
Waiting for his dinner.
496
00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:25,297
Come sit in here, Chelan.
‐ Hm?
497
00:24:25,381 --> 00:24:28,968
Sit over here.
Go ahead, Sammy.
498
00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:30,761
Sammy?
499
00:24:30,844 --> 00:24:32,930
You haven't been called
that for a long time, eh?
500
00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:34,765
Hammy bear?
‐ (Groans)
501
00:24:34,848 --> 00:24:38,852
Haven't heard
that for a long time.
502
00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:40,813
Hammy bear.
503
00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:48,570
♪
504
00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:53,117
I know, they smell good.
505
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,827
They probably
taste really good.
506
00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:58,414
♪
507
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,249
(Grunts)
508
00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:03,836
♪
509
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,088
It's quite the dinner
table you got here, dad.
510
00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,173
Mhm.
511
00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:17,057
♪
512
00:25:17,141 --> 00:25:22,563
There's a restaurant...
513
00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:24,898
And they sell crepes.
514
00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:26,775
It's kind of losers.
515
00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,820
Not losers, that's
not the right word.
516
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,864
Ah...
517
00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:36,493
♪
518
00:25:36,577 --> 00:25:39,121
Like, I don't know.
519
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:41,665
This big wrap with crepe,
and it's just ‐ I don't know.
520
00:25:41,707 --> 00:25:44,710
And everything's
falling out and...
521
00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:45,669
All right.
522
00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:51,050
(Sighs) I'm like really
sweating here.
523
00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:53,427
Chelan's using heroin...
524
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:58,223
And I couldn't,
I couldn't be around it.
525
00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:02,895
My worst fear is that she's
going to get the wrong heroin
526
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,354
and it's gonna have
fentanyl in it and
527
00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:06,273
she's gonna die.
528
00:26:06,356 --> 00:26:11,695
♪
529
00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:13,822
Hey.
‐ Mhm?
530
00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:15,282
You know you left all your
stuff in the bathroom, right?
531
00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:16,325
Did I?
‐ Yeah.
532
00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:17,701
Where is it?
533
00:26:17,785 --> 00:26:20,204
On the counter and on the ‐
you just left it laying there.
534
00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:22,664
♪
535
00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:23,999
How did I just
leave it laying there?
536
00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:24,833
I don't know.
537
00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:26,752
Didn't I put it
back in my purse?
538
00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:31,924
♪
539
00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:34,093
Oh, (beep).
540
00:26:34,176 --> 00:26:36,512
I forgot I put all
this stuff over here.
541
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:38,472
Okay, I gotta go.
‐ Okay.
542
00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:40,182
It's too hard
for me right now.
543
00:26:40,265 --> 00:26:42,601
Is it?
‐ Is that okay?
544
00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:43,811
Yeah, don't be
too upset, Tasha.
545
00:26:43,894 --> 00:26:48,982
I am. It's really hard to
see you like this.
546
00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:52,653
I've heard so many stories
about what drugs do to ya...
547
00:26:52,694 --> 00:26:55,030
You know, and now
I've seen it firsthand.
548
00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:57,699
I want to get my,
my daughter back.
549
00:26:57,783 --> 00:27:07,709
♪
550
00:27:08,502 --> 00:27:09,962
‐ Morning. l, good mor.
551
00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:10,629
Morning.
552
00:27:10,671 --> 00:27:11,922
My name is Maureen Brine,
553
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:15,092
and I am the interventionist.
554
00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:17,136
So I'm here to
really help you...
555
00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:20,639
To get ready to intervene
on Chelan tomorrow.
556
00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:25,352
And this pre‐intervention
day is your day.
557
00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:29,648
How do you think her
addictions have affected you?
558
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:32,109
She doesn't have ‐
she hasn't been a part of
559
00:27:32,192 --> 00:27:34,987
my family, so she hasn't
had a chance to
560
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:37,156
build a relationship
with her niece.
561
00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:38,949
I would love to...
562
00:27:39,032 --> 00:27:41,076
For my daughter
to have that aunt.
563
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,873
Yeah, that would be great,
wouldn't it?
564
00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:47,249
I want to see
her get better,
565
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:48,959
for herself, for her boys,
for her family.
566
00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:50,752
'Cause she is a great mum.
567
00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,087
You know, you see her ‐
I see her now.
568
00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:53,797
I drive down the street.
You wave to her or something
569
00:27:53,881 --> 00:27:54,882
and she doesn't even
acknowledge you.
570
00:27:54,965 --> 00:27:56,800
Like she drops her head.
She sees you,
571
00:27:56,884 --> 00:27:58,635
she just doesn't
acknowledge you.
572
00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:00,470
She's just ‐ it's not her.
‐ Right, yeah.
573
00:28:00,554 --> 00:28:01,889
You know?
574
00:28:01,972 --> 00:28:04,808
I don't think she realized it
was gonna get where it is now.
575
00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:06,101
I don't think anybody
does when you're in that ‐
576
00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:07,978
I don't think anyone
wakes up one morning and goes,
577
00:28:08,061 --> 00:28:10,439
"Now I'm on the road to becoming
a heroin addict," right.
578
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:13,317
No, I think she went from
zero to sixty really quick.
579
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:14,318
You're right.
580
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,236
And you gotta stay at sixty.
‐ You're right.
581
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,614
What led her in
this direction?
582
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:22,659
In my opinion, Chelan has...
583
00:28:22,743 --> 00:28:24,745
Abandonment issues,
I'd say.
584
00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:26,163
That's a good word.
585
00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:28,665
Has a fear of
being alone, and just,
586
00:28:28,749 --> 00:28:32,878
you know, needing to be with
someone in order to feel whole,
587
00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:36,006
or to have an
illusion of feeling whole.
588
00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:40,802
And is there anyone here that
she might point a finger at?
589
00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:43,347
Phil, you're right
in the center there, Phil.
590
00:28:43,472 --> 00:28:45,057
Well, I, I don't know.
591
00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,643
I figured
Chelan's addiction,
592
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,187
she would get
over it, and...
593
00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:52,606
I didn't think it was as
serious as it ‐
594
00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:55,234
as what I've come,
come to learn.
595
00:28:55,317 --> 00:28:56,235
Yeah.
596
00:28:56,318 --> 00:28:57,569
You know, and now
I've seen it firsthand.
597
00:28:57,653 --> 00:28:59,947
Well, having the attitude of,
'it's none of my business,'
598
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:01,323
right...
‐ Well, I've always ‐
599
00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:03,158
..."She'll get over it,"
didn't help.
600
00:29:03,242 --> 00:29:06,954
I have my own demons.
Not drugs, but...
601
00:29:07,037 --> 00:29:09,706
I was fighting with alcohol,
602
00:29:09,790 --> 00:29:11,667
drinking almost a
40‐pounder a day.
603
00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:13,794
Wow.
‐ By myself.
604
00:29:13,877 --> 00:29:15,587
By yourself, yeah.
605
00:29:15,671 --> 00:29:18,507
Did Chelan grow up with
you drinking very heavily?
606
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:21,009
At times, yes.
‐ Okay, yeah.
607
00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,637
So, that also makes
you not available, right?
608
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:24,972
Ah, yeah.
609
00:29:25,055 --> 00:29:27,516
So it may have
impacted her life, too.
610
00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:31,186
Yep.
‐ That's hard.
611
00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,438
Hard as a dad to see
your daughter that sick.
612
00:29:33,522 --> 00:29:36,275
Yep.
‐ Yeah.
613
00:29:36,358 --> 00:29:39,444
How do you guys feel about
the fact that he's sitting here?
614
00:29:39,528 --> 00:29:40,779
It's great.
‐ It's great.
615
00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:42,114
Yeah.
616
00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:44,032
And I think Chelan
would realize that, too.
617
00:29:44,116 --> 00:29:47,953
You know, I think that you
owe your kids your recovery.
618
00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:49,955
Oh, I know that.
‐ Yeah, you owe your kids.
619
00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:51,206
All of them; not just one.
620
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:52,833
Yeah, when you put
it all together,
621
00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:55,168
there is a history of
loss and abandonment.
622
00:29:55,252 --> 00:29:56,211
For sure.
623
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:57,337
Right?
‐ Yeah.
624
00:29:57,421 --> 00:29:59,047
Some of what I would call
the predisposing factors
625
00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:01,341
to her addiction, right...
626
00:30:01,425 --> 00:30:04,553
That, that kind of
ruptures of connection, really.
627
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:05,971
Mhm.
628
00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:08,765
And you know, that cycle of
abandonment is continuing on
629
00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:11,685
because now her drug
addiction has pulled her
630
00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:13,270
away from her own children.
631
00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:15,772
Yeah, well my,
my brother and Chelan
632
00:30:15,856 --> 00:30:17,316
were together for
quite some time.
633
00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:18,358
Yeah.
634
00:30:18,442 --> 00:30:20,944
And, Zayden lives in
the house with me, and...
635
00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:25,115
I, I see how it affects
him every single day.
636
00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:27,326
Well, you're seeing the
effects on a little boy
637
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:29,494
of not having his mum around.
‐ Yeah.
638
00:30:29,536 --> 00:30:33,415
Right, so, hopefully
we can stop that cycle.
639
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:34,750
So, she's been going
to your house as
640
00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,001
kind of a safe house?
641
00:30:36,126 --> 00:30:37,502
At night, yeah.
‐ At night time.
642
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:39,129
My rules are you can't
be there during the day,
643
00:30:39,212 --> 00:30:40,464
really, unless
it's, you know,
644
00:30:40,547 --> 00:30:41,631
something really urgent.
645
00:30:41,715 --> 00:30:45,135
I ask that she don't contact
me later than eleven if she ‐
646
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,553
If she's coming over.
‐ Coming over.
647
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,764
Right. So you're providing a
safe haven for her.
648
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:50,098
Yeah, and that,
for me, is hard.
649
00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:53,143
It's a fine line between
enabling and harm reduction.
650
00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:55,437
That's a tough
line to walk, right.
651
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,148
And I think that the
distinction is that
652
00:30:58,231 --> 00:31:00,192
she's sick, not bad.
‐ Yes.
653
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:02,652
And so she maybe
gets that you get that, right?
654
00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:03,904
Yes.
655
00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:07,324
So I want your letters to
begin with whatever
656
00:31:07,449 --> 00:31:09,659
you want to say about
your love for her.
657
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:12,954
The next piece is that you
need to tell her about
658
00:31:13,038 --> 00:31:15,082
how the addiction
has impacted you,
659
00:31:15,165 --> 00:31:18,335
without shaming
or blaming her.
660
00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:20,796
Then the third
part is, of course,
661
00:31:20,837 --> 00:31:23,757
what you are prepared to do.
662
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,927
You need to be really
clear that you need to
663
00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:30,222
save yourself if she
won't save herself.
664
00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:31,348
Mhm.
665
00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:34,142
An intervention is only as
strong as the bottom lines.
666
00:31:34,184 --> 00:31:36,061
If you can't
follow through with it,
667
00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:39,856
do not write it down.
668
00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:41,191
It's all right.
669
00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,318
And in fact, I like to say,
if she should
670
00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:46,947
turn us down tomorrow,
the intervention's still on;
671
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:54,162
it's not over.
It's just beginning.
672
00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:58,166
Good morning.
‐ You guys are ready.
673
00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,377
The rest is going
to be up to her.
674
00:32:00,460 --> 00:32:06,633
♪
675
00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:10,095
This is a scary thing to do,
but I think when she looks
676
00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:12,139
at all the people
that love her...
677
00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:14,182
That's gonna shine through.
678
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,309
♪
679
00:32:16,393 --> 00:32:18,311
(Gasps)
680
00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:19,855
Oh boy...
681
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:25,986
♪
682
00:32:26,111 --> 00:32:27,612
Hi, Chelan.
683
00:32:27,696 --> 00:32:31,867
♪
684
00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:32,993
Come on in.
‐ Hi.
685
00:32:33,118 --> 00:32:34,744
I'm Maureen.
‐ Hi, Maureen.
686
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:37,289
And this is
your intervention.
687
00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:41,460
You're amongst people
that love you very much, okay.
688
00:32:41,543 --> 00:32:46,131
(Whispers) Love you.
‐ I love you, too.
689
00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:48,884
So, everybody has
written you a letter,
690
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:53,138
and, all I really want from you
is to just sit and listen.
691
00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,432
And at the end, I'm gonna
give you a chance to talk.
692
00:32:55,515 --> 00:32:56,641
Okay.
‐ Okay?
693
00:32:56,683 --> 00:32:58,143
Yeah.
694
00:32:58,226 --> 00:32:59,644
I want to let you
hold onto this.
695
00:32:59,728 --> 00:33:00,896
Oh, thank you, Karli.
696
00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:02,606
Zayden sleeps
with it every night.
697
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,107
Yeah.
698
00:33:08,195 --> 00:33:11,573
Chelan, unfortunately,
the lifestyle you have chosen
699
00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:14,159
has steered you away in the
opposite directions of
700
00:33:14,284 --> 00:33:18,163
your three amazing boys.
701
00:33:18,205 --> 00:33:20,207
Zayden often asks
about you and
702
00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,584
says he misses you all the time.
703
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:25,462
It breaks our heart hearing
Zayden say he just wants and
704
00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:28,590
wishes he could hold
you and cuddle you again.
705
00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:39,643
Chelan, I'm here today to
make sure you know
706
00:33:39,768 --> 00:33:43,021
I love you and always will.
707
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:45,440
I need you to be part
of my family again.
708
00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:49,027
I need my son...
709
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:51,112
To have his aunt Chelan.
710
00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:54,115
I need my
sister back as well.
711
00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:59,371
But your addiction has
not made that possible.
712
00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:03,667
Today you are being given a
gift to get better, Chelan.
713
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,210
To get Chelan back.
714
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:08,255
To get her boys
and her family back.
715
00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:14,177
Chelan...
(Sighs)
716
00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:16,513
Can I hold your hand?
‐ Mhm.
717
00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:22,519
I'm here today because
you're my sister and I love you.
718
00:34:22,602 --> 00:34:24,229
It kills me to see and
hear about
719
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:27,732
how your life has taken
this wrong turn.
720
00:34:27,816 --> 00:34:30,402
(Sighs)
721
00:34:30,527 --> 00:34:32,404
I wish we would have
had a better chance
722
00:34:32,487 --> 00:34:35,782
to build a stronger
relationship.
723
00:34:35,865 --> 00:34:39,661
I feel dad's addiction took
me down a different road.
724
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:43,123
As I got older, I walked
away from everything in my life.
725
00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:46,001
Leaving everyone behind.
726
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,503
When I felt like I was
strong enough to rebuild
727
00:34:48,587 --> 00:34:50,797
some relationships,
I reached out to you.
728
00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:53,800
And we were slowly starting
to build a relationship.
729
00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:57,262
Our kids were slowly starting
to get to know each other.
730
00:34:57,345 --> 00:34:59,472
I was getting to
know my sister.
731
00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:03,435
♪
732
00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:07,480
And how your
family was your world.
733
00:35:07,564 --> 00:35:13,028
In a very short time,
it felt like it was gone.
734
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:14,821
And so were you.
735
00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:17,699
And I needed to end that
relationship because I was
736
00:35:17,782 --> 00:35:20,702
unable to allow that to
be a part of my life.
737
00:35:20,785 --> 00:35:23,663
I'm sorry I walked away
and I did not try to be
738
00:35:23,705 --> 00:35:25,624
a better big sister.
739
00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:31,129
♪
740
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:35,842
(Sighs)
741
00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:39,304
Chelan...
742
00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:41,348
It's okay,
Phil.
743
00:35:44,351 --> 00:35:47,854
First thing I do is check
the news to make sure
744
00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:50,231
you're not the people that
have died from overdose
745
00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:53,693
overnight in Kamloops.
746
00:35:53,777 --> 00:36:00,283
I'm here because I love you
and don't want to lose you.
747
00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:02,452
When you came for
dinner on Saturday,
748
00:36:02,535 --> 00:36:05,330
I didn't know how bad
your addiction was.
749
00:36:05,372 --> 00:36:08,500
It broke my heart to
see you like you were.
750
00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:11,753
I know my drinking
has affected you.
751
00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:13,088
I'm truly sorry for the ‐
752
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:16,508
any damage that it has caused.
753
00:36:16,591 --> 00:36:18,093
I cannot make up
for yesterday,
754
00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:22,222
but I can make up
for the future.
755
00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:24,182
And I'm sorry, Chelan.
756
00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:25,809
I know, dad.
757
00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:27,477
So, do you have a bottom
line for your daughter, Phil,
758
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,188
if she should not...?
‐ Yes, I do.
759
00:36:30,271 --> 00:36:33,525
My bottom line is, Chelan...
760
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:35,318
I really don't want
to close my door,
761
00:36:35,402 --> 00:36:37,362
but I will have to.
762
00:36:37,487 --> 00:36:40,240
That it would really hurt
you to have to do that.
763
00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:42,325
Yes, it would ‐ it would
really hurt me to
764
00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:45,995
have to close my door
on my daughter.
765
00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:47,664
So it's my job
today, Chelan,
766
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:49,916
to ask you whether or not
you're ready to accept
767
00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:58,133
help for your addictions?
768
00:36:58,174 --> 00:36:59,426
Yeah, I'm ready.
769
00:36:59,509 --> 00:37:00,677
Are you ready?
‐ Oh, yes.
770
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,722
I'm more than ready.
‐ You're more than ready.
771
00:37:03,805 --> 00:37:04,681
I'm more than ready.
772
00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:06,307
Thank you.
‐ You're welcome.
773
00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:08,476
Thank you for saying yes.
774
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,314
♪
775
00:37:13,356 --> 00:37:17,152
I love you.
‐ I love you, too.
776
00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:18,153
You can get better.
777
00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:19,446
I'm fighting my
own additions;
778
00:37:19,529 --> 00:37:22,449
we can fight them together.
779
00:37:22,532 --> 00:37:25,243
We'll climb the
stairs together.
780
00:37:25,368 --> 00:37:28,788
Bye, dad.
I love you.
781
00:37:28,872 --> 00:37:30,957
♪
782
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Love you!
‐ Love you, Chelan!
783
00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:34,836
We love you, Chelan.
You'll do good, Chelan.
784
00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:36,254
Bye!
‐ Bye, Chelan!
785
00:37:36,337 --> 00:37:37,130
Love you!
‐ Love you!
786
00:37:37,172 --> 00:37:38,757
Love you, Chelan!
‐ Bye.
787
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,467
Bye.
788
00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:41,718
It's gonna get better.
789
00:37:41,801 --> 00:37:43,970
It's gonna get a lot better.
‐ Yeah.
790
00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:54,022
♪
791
00:37:54,856 --> 00:37:56,483
Sure am.
792
00:37:56,566 --> 00:37:58,193
Welcome to the
Thorpe Recovery Centre.
793
00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,486
Hi.
‐ Hi.
794
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:01,905
For Chelan, right now, the
challenges for her during
795
00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:05,450
her detox is going to get
through the withdrawal.
796
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:07,994
When we're looking at this
drug that she's been using,
797
00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:09,245
it's a hard drug.
798
00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:11,247
It's really
difficult for withdrawal.
799
00:38:11,331 --> 00:38:13,958
Cold turkey,
we would lose her.
800
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,709
Absolutely.
801
00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:16,169
The nurses are gonna
go through a
802
00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:18,213
withdrawal protocol with her.
803
00:38:18,338 --> 00:38:20,715
Based on that, that's when
a decision is made
804
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,051
as to what medication
she'll get.
805
00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,303
We're gonna try to set up
something so that she will
806
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:28,223
be able to interact
with her kids at a safe,
807
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,225
therapeutic
level here for her,
808
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:33,520
and for them.
809
00:38:33,603 --> 00:38:43,571
♪
810
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:50,703
I took off these foggy
glasses and I can see again,
811
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:53,039
and I don't
think I realized...
812
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:54,666
The beautiful
world I lived in.
813
00:38:54,749 --> 00:38:57,418
I took it all for granted.
814
00:38:57,502 --> 00:38:59,462
I think one of her
greatest break throughs was,
815
00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:01,631
"I'm not that person
anymore," and
816
00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,884
it was a surprise for her.
"I'm not that person".
817
00:39:04,968 --> 00:39:07,762
I think she knew who she
was before she came here.
818
00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:10,265
I think she just lost
connection with that.
819
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,809
But, it ‐ I think it was
evident that she
820
00:39:12,892 --> 00:39:16,271
reconnected with who
she knew she was.
821
00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:19,148
♪
822
00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:21,526
(Screams & Laughs)
823
00:39:21,609 --> 00:39:23,945
I wake up and I'm happy,
and I'm joyful,
824
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:29,826
and I feel good, and I
don't need substances.
825
00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:30,994
(Laughs)
826
00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:32,829
Sometimes, I really had to
keep reminding myself like,
827
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:34,455
"I am not a drug
addict anymore.
828
00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:37,792
I am not a drug
addict anymore".
829
00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:39,210
I mean, it's...
830
00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:40,461
it's a beautiful feeling.
831
00:39:40,503 --> 00:39:41,796
It was emotional
seeing her just...
832
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,840
you know, seeing
how healthy she was.
833
00:39:43,923 --> 00:39:47,135
It wasn't the same
person she was 99 days ago.
834
00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:48,678
I've met so many friends.
835
00:39:48,761 --> 00:39:51,306
You look happy.
‐ Do I look happy?
836
00:39:51,431 --> 00:39:53,308
You look so good.
837
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:54,392
Sky's the limit.
838
00:39:54,475 --> 00:39:55,810
I mean, she can do
whatever she wants.
839
00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:58,313
There is no holding her back
and I think she realizes that,
840
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:00,315
so to be
there and to see it,
841
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,984
and experience
it with her, is, is huge.
842
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:06,195
I'm so excited. Like,
I'm so excited, just...
843
00:40:06,321 --> 00:40:08,865
To live again,
like, oh my God.
844
00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:12,076
When Chelan arrived,
she was quite desperate
845
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,370
to have a different way of life.
846
00:40:14,454 --> 00:40:16,915
She lost connection
with who she was,
847
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,628
but I think she got reconnected
with the real Chelan.
848
00:40:21,711 --> 00:40:23,129
You know, Chelan the mom.
849
00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:25,798
You know, she got in touch
with that quite quickly.
850
00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:27,383
Almost 100 days,
that's awesome.
851
00:40:27,508 --> 00:40:29,135
Yeah.
‐ That's amazing.
852
00:40:29,218 --> 00:40:30,303
I know.
853
00:40:30,345 --> 00:40:32,639
It's gonna be a journey for
all of us to, to go on.
854
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,807
Learning to love and live,
855
00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:37,268
and be with each other,
you know...
856
00:40:37,352 --> 00:40:38,311
In a whole different way.
857
00:40:38,353 --> 00:40:40,855
In a whole different
light and way.
858
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:44,025
This journey's,
it's just beginning.
859
00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:46,569
It's gonna be good.
‐ It's gonna be good.
860
00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:48,196
Bye, Debbie.
‐ It was a pleasure.
861
00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:49,405
I love you!
862
00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:51,783
Do great,
because you are, okay?
863
00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:53,409
Okay, yeah.
‐ Love you.
864
00:40:53,534 --> 00:40:54,827
Love you, too.
865
00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,121
A lot of people want to have
this chance to come and
866
00:40:57,205 --> 00:41:01,376
get better, and I was
granted with it, so, like,
867
00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:02,961
I wanna, I wanna make
the best of this.
868
00:41:03,044 --> 00:41:04,879
I don't want to have
something like this given
869
00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:07,131
to me and then I
just throw it away.
870
00:41:07,215 --> 00:41:11,260
I mean, I gotta take this
and do something
871
00:41:11,344 --> 00:41:12,971
that's amazing with it.
872
00:41:13,054 --> 00:41:23,022
♪
873
00:41:23,106 --> 00:41:33,074
♪
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