All language subtitles for Chaplins.Goliath.1996

well rita hayworth was my first
real love has to be alec goodness sean

connery james cheer
i like the lion king

zero mustel is my favorite comedy star
i like marlena daytrick the one i

remember being involved with earliest
was john wayne you want to be like him

talk like him who walk like him because
he's so

enigmatic and mysterious perhaps and i
think i was probably introduced him by

my mum
who fancied him as well he kind of

represented a lot of things that i would
like in a man

i can't remember not knowing who he was
i mean

i knew him as soon as i could speak i
knew that name as soon as i could read

look at me max brianna's stock max b
ellis got six chosen broadway sex dolls

on
broadway he's kind of sitting at the bar

and he's rolling an egg on the bar
this guy the burner says oh

what can i get for you can i go what do
you got in mind so i don't see there's

such a thing
as such a person as credit card that's a

secretion of the cinema
babe and that was about the

all it's been said that a movie star as
someone we remember

after we've forgotten the movies that
we're in the sound of their voice

their faces and bodies take on
associations and meanings

all of their own they become icons
this film is about the first screen icon

from scotland
his name was eric campbell but it is the

face not the name that people remember
he was the ultimate silent comedy

villain appearing opposite charlie
chaplin in 11 films between

1916 and 1918 before mysteriously
vanishing from movies forever

who was the scotsman who was known and
loved by millions around the world

where did he come from where did he go

do

it's lovely to be here everyone and
welcome also to this very important

occasion
and i think it's a weird and rather

wonderful that here we are standing in
the rain and dunoon in scotland

celebrating one of the great figures of
international cinema

particularly that part of cinema which
really dominated the world the silent

period
as you all know in the silent period

cinema had no language barriers
and so the stars of silent cinema were

famous in beijing
in tokyo in south america and north

america
and here we are roughly 80 years after

his death
celebrating someone who would have been

recognized
all around the world perhaps one of the

most recognized per people on the planet
that what we're doing this morning will

will thankfully help
uh rehabilitate him for scots and we can

call him again one of our own
and and i'll say no more in the subject

except to say that i'm absolutely
thrilled

to welcome to scotland and to danoon uh
eric's granddaughter

brenda bull well it's nice to have been
found

yes selfie go

when i watch him on the screen to me it
seems so strange that

never having met him to think that it is
actually

my grandfather it's difficult to relate
to

when i was a child my mother told me all
about my grandfather and showed me

um pictures but it wasn't until i was a
school girl that at a local specialized

cinema
they had a series of charlie chaplin

films
and she took me to see him then that was

the first time i'd ever seen a moving
moving picture of him what did you think

of them
well i was quite i was astonished at the

time because i was only about 12 and i
i was i was surprised how tall and

enormous
he was because i didn't realize until

you actually see it on the screen
compared with the size of other people

how large he was in all width ways and
height wise

i first saw the chaplain films wearing
my hat was a film

buff in the old pathoscope 9.5 films
where charlie chaplin was king and eric

campbell was his student
and i was very very surprised to learn

campbell was in fact
from my neck of the woods so to speak he

was born
fairly late into the 19th century i

think was about 1880 1885 or so
i think the noon in these days must have

been very much
what was called dunawata in other words

glaswegians came here
in great great numbers for their

holidays everybody piled down to the
noon

there were many many steamers and these
steamers used to carry people literally

packed like sardines across the water
for their

couple of weeks holiday in the noon

and of course in these days the clan
system

i won't say it was still the full clan
system

but there would have been a very large
number of campbells in this district

because it is campbell territory
but i've had quite a few bits and pieces

of trying to trace him
and i've literally drawn a blank

whatever his beginnings eric later said
that he was obsessed with acting from a

very early age
in his only known piece of autobiography

he wrote as far back as i can remember i
always wanted to be an actor

my first appearance in any stage was at
the age of eight in the children's

operetta called
five o'clock tea i played a chinaman

as i grew older my desire to become an
actor deepened much to the annoyance of

my parents
who had mapped out a scientific career

for me
i studied for about three years but my

mind was more on grease paint than on
gases

i had very bad luck at first but very
good experience

i played in the scotch and welsh fit ups
with terrible melanomas

it was difficult at first to be
convincing in these to me very unnatural

roles
but i realized that the class of people

we played to believed them
fit ups uh well we're called that

because you virtually went into a bear
hall and you

fitted up the scenery and every play it
was a fit up

and the kind of things they did there
were plays melodramas you know

mudder and the red barn mariah monk
genie jeans they were all very well

known pieces and some actors did nothing
else

but that and others who came into it
didn't know what to do

didn't realize it it wasn't always what
was written down on the page you

sometimes made it up
as you went along so he had to learn to

use his brain
you see and of course in those places i

mean the actors were lucky
some of them if they got 30 shillings a

week it was a pretty thin
existence

eric spent several years scraping a
living with the touring fit up companies

perhaps it was during one of these
engagements that he met gertrude

robotham a pretty lancashire actress a
few years older than himself

eric and gertrude were married in april
1901

interestingly the marriage certificate
suggests that the pair eloped

at 20 eric was still technically a minor
so he claimed that he was 27.

perhaps to cover his tracks he also
stated that his profession was

commercial traveler
a year later a daughter named uno was

born who was soon to become the apple of
her father's eye

eric continued to appear in the
so-called legitimate theater

in production such as this egyptian
mummy melodrama staged in glasgow in

1908
but aided by a fine baritone voice he

also began to get jobs as a singer in
musicals and an operetta

in later life he claimed to have worked
with the doily car to open a company

this is eric campbell but is a doily
card

however the area in which eric was
really to make his name

was the weird and wonderful world of
musical

the musical of the
end of the last century beginning of the

century was really as there's like
nothing else

for one thing it was a complete
democratic theater i mean

there really were the groundings up in
the gallery you only need a penny or

something but in the boxes there'd be
uh the toffs and the gentry at

that period every town had to it's
musical and i mean the bigger towns had

a number of music halls
uh so an amazing number of artists were

employed
the audience just demanded the

extraordinary it didn't matter what it
was if it was extraordinary i mean

you would have pavlova and you'd have
sarah bernhardt on the music halls

side by side with lockhart's elephants
or performing seals or something like

that
anything is extraordinary there's even

one act actually is an american act i'm
not sure if they appeared over here but

one act who was extraordinary being so
extraordinarily bad they were called the

cherry sisters and they were so
appallingly bad that

that people loved them because they were
bad and they loved throwing things at

them i mean
that was an act to have things thrown at

it

to be a musical artist was the kind of
ambition maybe kids now

who would like to be pop stars i mean it
was the same kind of compulsion to be a

musical artist

we had an act called joe slack and eve
and joe came on as a chef the white hat

where everything was marvelous and he
brought on a

giant silver platter and it was on
it was almost like as big as a stretcher

if you like this giant platter
and he took the top off the platter and

there was
actually his wife eve as a chicken

and she was a contoso so he kind of
swung her off this thing and swung

around
by the ankle as though it was a chicken

and then she all sort of came to bits
and worked

and it was a marvelous act at christmas
every music hall staged an elaborate

pantomime
here's eric is an imposing emperor of

morocco in a 1908 production of dick
whittington at the theater royal in

birmingham
it was while appearing in panto that

eric was supported by the great tsar of
british music hall comedy

fred carno khan was individual blend of
pantomime and physical comedy was to

have a tremendous influence not only
over eric

but over whole generations of british
and american comics

this rare piece of archive gives a
fleeting glimpse of him with two of his

later prodigies
flanagan and allen

well this though it doesn't look like
very much at the moment is in fact a

very historic building in the story of
british theater because this is fred

carno's fun factory
uh cano was an extraordinary figure he

was certainly the most important
impresario of comedy

in the english music course and that is
the english musicals in their greatest

days
cano really invented the comedy sketch

the kind of comedy sketch which which
very much looked forward to the

one and two real slapstick comic films
of course the most important product of

the fun factory were the comedians
themselves and this is where

conor really was a genius because uh he
had

an incredible gift for spotting
comedians and then for training them

and i think it's true to say that
there's there's practically no english

comedian from 1900 to 1930 who hadn't
been through carnot's hands and very

of course many of them finished up in
america then they finished up in films

and it's marvelous to think
that through this door uh they entered

full of fear and trembling because kano
terrorizes people but it's amazing to

think that
here was the young charlie chaplin and

young
stan laurel and of course big eric

campbell and it's not a very big door i
think eric might have had some problem

getting through it even
kano recognized an eric a performer

whose enormous
threatening physical presence could be

used to hilarious comic effect
in the yap yaps eric was cast as big ben

the bruiser
a bullying boxer in a finale which

always brought the house down
big ben and the diminutive lead comedian

were brought together for a fight
with the little comedian finally winning

the day
it's a scenario that clearly foreshadows

the david and goliath relationship
eric was to have with chaplin

over the next four years eric appeared
in a number of other carno shows

along the way befriending and working
alongside the chaplain brothers

charlie and sid and the young stan lora

in 1912 stan laurel and charlie chaplin
were both part of a cardinal tour of

america
and both made the momentous decision to

stay there
with charlie entering movies with the

keystone company the following year
it wasn't long before eric would be

joining them

eric arrived in new york in july 1914
traveling first class aboard the aptly

named ss
mini haha

his ticket had been paid for by the most
prominent american theatrical producers

of the day
claw and erlanger who wanted him to play

in their latest broadway production
tipping the winner a comedy about

bookies and racehorses

the city eric experienced was teeming
with newly arrived immigrants

italians russians germans and not a few
scots

lured from their homelands by the
promise of a better life

unfortunately tipping the winner was not
a winner and closed after a dozen

performances
but eric's notices were good and he had

no difficulty finding work in a
successful musical comedy later boasting

that he himself had written many of the
best numbers in the show

by april 1915 eric was settled enough to
send for his wife and daughter

and by that time there was a good reason
to stay away from europe

the great war had begun and thousands of
men of eric's age were already losing

their lives in the trenches of the
western front

to eric an old cardinal colleague was
also in new york

charlie chaplin was now the most famous
movie star

in the world having just fulfilled a
year's contract with the ezine film

company
he was in town with his brother sid

quoting new offers
and on the 25th of february 1916 he

signed an unprecedented contract with
the mutual film corporation

to produce 12 two real comedies over two
years

with a first year's paycheck of six
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars

at that time the largest salary ever
paid to an entertainer

before returning to hollywood the
chaplains decided to take in a broadway

musical starring mitzi hayosh
the musical star of the moment and there

on the bill
was their old friend eric

they went backstage and immediately
recruited him for the new venture

so it was that eric headed west to work
in the movies in march

1916 however unquit you're a javelin
just cut it out cut it out

hollywood at that time like around 1915
was really a rather

a bustling little community i mean you
could say was a lazy town but compared

to 20 years before
it wasn't so lazy so you had a great

deal of laborers who were working
constructing homes

and businesses and i think the word
humming might be

right as it was sort of a humming little
community a lot of avocado

groves and citrus grows people who first
came here said one of the major things

they remembered was the
lovely scent of uh orange groves

and the movie business was like gold of
course it was like a gold rush

and you had a great deal of people
coming from the east coast to the west

coast at that time
and there were probably about 20 or so

studios i would say in the hollywood and
immediate vicinity

eric reported for work at the lone star
studios in april

a set depicting a department store was
already under construction

chaplin had gathered together a small
stock company of actors who would appear

in all of his mutual films
his on-screen and off-screen lover was

the beautiful blonde edna province
whose untutored acting style was to

cause chaplin numerous headaches
but also provides some of the most

charming moments in his films
of the others several like eric were old

cardinal hands
with little or no experience of film

this was a deliberate choice on
charlie's part

he was keen to move away from the
simplistic slapstick of his early

films and develop a more subtle
character-driven comedy style

based in large measure on what he had
learned at carmel

eric makes a dramatic entrance in the
floor walker

his first film for chaplin he plays a
corrupt store manager intent and

embezzling a fortune from his employers

the striking makeup is already in
evidence but despite summer music antics

on the escalator
eric's role is underdeveloped

the david and goliath partnership with
chaplain that was to grow so familiar to

film fans
only began in the second film the fire

by now eric was much more than a mere
character actor

he was chaplain's foil a co-star
somebody whom the audience could always

rely on to play variations on the same
villainous role over the next 18 months

eric and charlie continued to battle it
out in film

after film

eric showed himself to be a highly
adaptable and agile performer for a man

of twenty stone
look at him in this scene where he

thinks he's come across charlie kissing
a boy

do
often it is eric who steals the laughs

by providing the toppers and charlie's

gangs

although now a recognized star player
eric settled into a rather modest

lifestyle with his family

yeah this is a letter from my
grandmother to her sister

clarice and it's may the 28th 1916
and it says my dear clary i don't know

where to begin
first glad to say we got the tie for

eric's birthday on the actual day
eric was delighted you know how he talks

well his latest craze is to get you all
this side

also he's certain to be able to keep us
all

well we'll just have to wait and see if
it had not been for our dreadful war

eric would have scraped half the fair he
says

well we took a cottage at santa monica
about a mile from the famous sea beach

down los angeles called venice
we look out of the back door and see

garden and lovely seafront
also perfectly quiet

mind it is a tumble down cottage small
bedrooms front room

and with the higher the piano chiefly
for eric's music now i didn't know play

the piano
you sound never played piano it is half

rent so
the other half keeps up the car 13 miles

from the studio
eric goes each morning they're on the

third picture
an english gypsy part no title yet the

floor walker must be on in london
i think it is in australia all america

and canada and they have made made now
on his first picture

his year's salary isn't it enormous
question mark

you said you enclosed a slip about
chaplin

but maybe this passing by the sense of
business got it lost

we are sorry because lots of stupid
rumors get around

already he wrote to england about the
fighting business

the british press gave chaplin and his
cohorts a tough time during the great

war for being in america
to try and demonstrate their patriotism

both eric and charlie were involved in a
number of charity events

they boxed an aide of the french nurses
and appeared together in a baseball game

to raise war bones
it was comedians versus tragedians with

the keystone cops as umpires
grandpop talked a lot about the the crew

being a real family at that time and
certainly they would do things together

they went to the fights together they
went to baseball games together

they went out he talked about actually
it was funny when bonnie and i were

doing some research looking up
information about eric we found out that

there was mention of something that
grandpa talked about

going to levy's cafe apparently that was
the normal hangout

so apparently it was quite a family
affair in those days

my name is bonnie mccourt and i am the
founder of the charlie chaplin film

company
and i publish something called limelight

which is a quarterly publication
strictly on the subject of charlie

chaplin
and i've been a chaplain fan since i was

11 years old
my parents had gotten divorced that year

and my mother
and my brother and i moved in with my

grandfather
and i was feeling a little lonely and

you know sort of an outsider in a
new town and didn't know anybody so my

father bought me television set for
christmas and the week between christmas

and new year's
i was just flipping the channels and saw

this little guy on roller skates
and he was so adorable and so

graceful and and there was this huge
scary looking man who was after him and

i just
was so fascinated by this little man who

managed to best this big bully who was
not only after him but after

the woman too and here's this little guy
literally skating circles around this

big monster
named eric campbell and here this little

guy
just did whatever he could do to

vanquish
the villain and save the poor woman from

this evil man
and as an 11 year old i just fell in

love with this little character
and now over 30 years later i'm still

entranced by these same films that i've
seen

hundreds of times

charlie was contracted by mutual to
produce one film a month

and at script meetings like this eric
and other key members of the company

were encouraged to come up with ideas
for the next film

it was a hectic schedule and inevitably
delays began to occur

he drove distributors absolutely crazy
because he was every film took longer

than the one before it and
they were waiting for delivery so he

drove them crazy
the other thing which astounded people

at the time at the time was
uh the number of takes that he would

make of every scene he would
would shoot and shoot and shoot a scene

over and over and over again until he
got it right

this was something completely new to
filmmaking at that time

luckily for us portions of the material
chaplain discarded

his outtakes survive and provide
tantalizing glimpses behind the scenes

as in this shot we see eric taking a
breather on the set of the floor walker

elsewhere we can see how a novel stunt
was achieved

how for instance did enormous eric
manage this

of course it's not eric but a stuntman
who's been instructed to wave his legs

around as long as he can
then hold them together when he needs to

be rescued
and among those who rush to pull him out

is eric himself

the outtakes also provide insight into
the way charlie and eric work

together

at times we see charlie directing his
heavy from the strangest positions

frequently chaplin required take after
take before he got the performances he

wanted
in this case at this danger edna

rejecting eric's romantic advances in
the adventurer

no matter how forcefully he projects his
beard

chaplain steps into frame to give edna a
prop

but still can't get her to be as cool
and dismissive as he would like

an exasperated chaplain repositions
edna's arm

eric showing a professionalism garnered
after years on the stage

seems unfazed by edna's inability to
give the required performance

after more than 30 takes edna and eric
are still at it

but now eric is obviously saying
something to edna to make her laugh

they'll have to start all over again

sometimes charlie would start shooting
an idea and then abandon it

this isolated sequence shows eric and
edna in a bohemian cafe

eric has been given the opportunity to
broaden his range

playing a dashing svengali figure with
edna under his spell

albert austin on the right challenges
him to a jewel

and for once eric actually gets to kiss
edna

who appears to rather enjoy the
experience

but for whatever reason could charlie
have been jealous

the idea is abandoned charlie starts all
over again with slate one

using the same set but little else now
charlie

is a penniless diner who can barely
afford a meal

he's being intimidated by an arrogant
bullying waiter played by henry bergman

eric jett has no part

bergman has called on to beat up a
customer who can't pay his bill

it looks like charlie can't pay either

charlie does scene after scene and take
after take

but something isn't working bergman just
can't give the right sense of threat to

the role
it doesn't provide charlie with the

right foil they just don't spark
so in the next take he makes a change

do
eric's presence immediately brings

chaplin's performance to life
his actions become broader and funnier

relieved at having cracked his casting
problem even chaplin seems to be

enjoying himself

and behind this clap aboard we get a
tantalising glimpse of eric relaxing

the man behind the ferocious mask

from 1915 on there was in this country
an enormous

chaplain craze where there were songs
written

about chaplin or about his walk you had
little dolls that were coming out in

this shape of chaplin you had chaplain
look like contests

where thousands of people would turn out
in their chaplain costumes or at least

hundreds would at a theater and then the
winner might get a certain prize or

whatever
so you had this enormous interest

with the increased fascination with
chaplain

there was just a huge number of chaplain
imitators that appeared

out of nowhere you had stan laurel who
had worked with

charlie chaplin at carno doing a little
keystone trio which was sort of uh

stan laurel as charlie chaplin which i
think would be marvelously wonderful to

see
in fact there was one fellow named

charles amador who used the name charlie
aplin

and that definitely called charles
chaplin the idea that someone would use

the name charles aplin
among the imitators was a glasgow

comedian called billy ritchie
richie had preceded chaplin in many of

the roles at carno
and claimed perhaps with some truth that

he was in fact the original of the
little tramp figure

and that chaplin had imitated him in his
walk and costume

unfortunately richie met a rather
gruesome end before his film career

really took off
when he was attacked and fatally injured

by a group of ostriches on the set of
one of his films

as soon as you had chaplain imitation
and and chaplain imitators you began to

have eric campbell imitators
oliver hardy was hired by billy west uh

to do
a bit of the eric campbell routine with

the large
mustaches or beards where you could

hardly even see oliver hardy underneath
all that

makeup

chaplin's popularity was hardly limited
to north america

he'd become a universally recognized
figure

and so of course had eric who was known
to millions of children around the world

as big uncle eric
even back in his homeland

my impression of those early days i was
only

kind of very young that there were
certainly

gales of laughter because chaplin
was at his peak then and at that time

a cinema sheet activated by a whistle
being blown

was run across the stage and it was just
a linen sheet

and take down on me on the opposite side
and then a film a short film

was projected on the screen whilst
behind the screen

the stage was being set for the variety
at

monocyclist or performing dogs or
something like that

the reaction to chaplin
was a very very good indeed but the

reason being basically
that there was a a great deal of knock

about
and uh action practically the whole time

uh particularly with the custard pies
instead of flying around

particularly in the face of the uh
be whiskered kind of villain eric

campbell

i answered about eric getting two years
contract with charlie chaplin

and if the war is over the second year
is travel

to china egypt japan australia etc
both yoona and self included miami small

biz
take no notice of press mata because

they print anything
charlie chaplin is going to take the

best offer you can bet
and he likes eric so well but he was

upset to know he had some three good
offers

from other movie people he telephoned us
to go to lunch at their best hotel there

gave eric his terms etc rushed eric off
to a lawyer to sign the contract

now it's as sweet as anything to eric
many people

said here charlie chaplin had eric to
thank for his pictures

yet charlie chaplin cut half of eight's
good work out when the pictures were

shown
just as eric's career was blossoming his

personal life took a tragic turn from
which it would never recover

his wife whom he had married in scotland
and brought to this country passed away

rather suddenly
and he and his daughter were in a car

accident and his daughter
went to recuperate at a friend's house

and while his daughter was recuperating
he met this woman at a party and about

three weeks later they were married
this is like a month after his wife had

passed away
clayton pearl gilman was a beautiful

young southern belle with theatrical
pretensions and a reputation as a gold

digger
the marriage was a surprise to all even

chaplain wasn't told until after the
event

and eric's daughter una only found out
when she returned home from her friends

a few days later

pearl had been part of a vaudeville
singing group with two of her sisters

they traded in the name of a more famous
sibling sexport mabel gilman corey

who had gained notoriety by marrying
elderly steel magnate

w e corey

but admiration was not to last two
months later

cupid and comedy failed to mix according
to mrs clayton pearl campbell

sister of mrs mabel gilman corey who
will seek separate maintenance from her

husband eric campbell
well-known film comedian doing some

research i came across the divorce
complaint which

by today's standards was

rather tame but in those days i guess
this was hot stuff i don't know but in

part
this is um this was part of her divorce

complaint this is why she
divorced eric campbell that since said

marriage defendant has treated plaintiff
in a cruel and

inhuman manner and in particular as
follows

that honor about the third day of
october 1917

at the home of plankton and defendant
and in the presence and hearing of

friends of the plaintiff
defendant cursed the plaintiff and said

to her god damn you take your feet down
and struck plaintiff and hurt shamed and

humiliated her
that while at the cafe in the town of

vernon the defendant
insisted on introducing and did

introduce the plaintiff
to a hula dancer against the objection

of the plaintiff
and said he liked hula dancers and that

they were just as good as she was
that the defendant is a steady and

excessive drinker of intoxicating
liquors

and on nearly every night following the
marriage of the plaintiff and defendant

the defendant has returned home in an
intoxicated condition

and cursed and abused the plaintiff and
frightened and humiliated her

that the defendant is a large and
powerful man

and boasts continually of his physical
prowess and repeatedly told the

plaintiff that he had on one occasion
killed a man with a single blow of his

fist
and threatened to kill her do you

believe all of that
well i don't know that hula dancer stuff

is a little hard to take

but well he was a big powerful man i
mean that's very true i mean it's very

obvious from his interactions with
chaplin but

from what i've heard from what other
people said about him he was a very

gentle and sweet man
eric moved out of his house in santa

monica and took an apartment next to
chaplain's own in the exclusive los

angeles athletic club
we can only guess if he confided his

obvious unhappiness to chaplain
what is for sure is that he never

displayed anything but a professional
attitude on the set

where most were unaware of his private

anguish
all during this period eric was at work

in what would be chaplin's final film
for mutual

and also one of his funniest the

adventurer
at the very end of the film there is a

moment that with hindsight
is immensely poignant chaplin kisses

eric
goodbye

having completed his mutual contract
chaplain was determined to further

extend his independence by building his
very own film studio

chaplain eric and the others gather
round on the day the construction work

began

so excited was chaplin with the idea of
having his own studio

that he had his cameraman raleigh toledo
make this film

showing it going up

construction was scheduled to take five
months during which time eric was still

under contract
and being paid a hefty salary

to offset this expense charlie agreed to
loan erika to his friend mary pickford

for her latest film
amarillo of clothesline alley although

he was still being asked to play a
villain

this was an enormous break into dramatic
acting for eric

remember that at the time pickford
america's sweetheart

was the most popular actress in the
world

but three days into shooting amarillo
eric increasingly erratic and reckless

in his behavior
went to a lively party at the vernon

country club
drunk he drove back with some friends at

four o'clock in the morning

when he hit the oncoming vehicle he was
traveling at 60 miles an hour on the

wrong side of the road
he was killed instantly his passengers

escaped with minor injuries

i'm afraid when eric campbell died in
the automobile accident it was

in some ways i'm sure chaplin must have
not only had a great personal loss at

that
but also realized i'm in trouble where

am i ever going to find someone who
could replace this man

and i don't think he ever found anyone
that ever

replaced eric campbell because of
campbell being such a superior comedian

and heavy

he never found another villain quite
like campbell

there was usually an opponent a heavy
but

you don't really remember them they're
bits of machinery

not such a strong personality as
campbell and i think that if campbell

survived
the relationship the i mean the artistic

relationship they built up would have
developed and i think that you know

something quite wonderful and rich
might have come out of it and chaplin

was not the
not the character ever to ever to

acknowledge a partner but i think that
that there would have been something

quite close to a partnership if
if eric had lived

without eric's more manic influence
chaplin's films grew progressively more

self-obsessed and sentimental
they never again had the wild inventive

iconoclastic even cruel humor of the
mutual films

the ones which many chaplain admirers
now regard as his greatest achievement

stan laurel one of eric's greatest
friends later said

eric was such a wonderful guy people
used to say that he had a heart as big

as himself
an elite was a mountain of a man i think

he would have made a great success in
the movies when sound came in because he

had a beautiful big voice
again just like himself the odd thing

though was that he was really a very shy
man

like charlie in that respect eric used
to refer to himself as an elephant

i guess in a way he was right big
gentle lovable

when my mother had both her parents
die within such a short space of time

and not having any relatives in
america she was forced i presume through

having nowhere to go to come back to
england and she

she went to stay with her aunt in
nottingham

who looked after her because i think she
was only about 15 at the time

and she was left with no prospects
really so she had to get a job as a

window dresser
on occasion i have said i said to people

did you see my grandfather on television
last night and they'd say

no who was that and you'd say well you
said the charlie chaplin films are on

they say
yes and i say well the very big man the

opposite that's my grandfather
and nobody believes you which is a bit

depressing because it's rather difficult
to prove

isn't it

rosedale was one of the first cemeteries
to

allow people of all color creed
religions to be buried in one location

we have many many famous people here
just a few i'll name today

hattie mcdaniels who is the first
african-american actress to receive an

academy award for her portrayal
in gone with the wind we have ray ray

bradbury who's the famous writer
we also have frederick rindge who is one

of the founders of pacific mutual
insurance company

and now we have of course mr alfred eric
campbell to add to that that list of

famous people interred here at rosedale
mr campbell was uh cremated in december

1917
and some six months later the undertaker

who handled his service
picked up his ashes he was to have been

interred in a niche
in our columbarium but apparently for

some reason we're
we suspect that uh possibly that it

wasn't paid for
so he had to go back to the handling

mortuary so the undertaker kept him
for some 21 years

he returned the cremains to us some 21
years later

and we kept them here for an additional
13 years

before we finally interred them on our
grounds

and again there no one none of the
relatives contacted us apparently

so he was interred
on our grounds and we're not quite sure

where
but he was interred here and he's

he's part of the beautiful scenery you
see here

our trees and the flowers and we'd like
to think of him like that

um and finally some 44 years later as
you know

today we're going to place his memorial
plaque

to put him finally to rest

do

i like to bet with a big scottish guy
where he was like beating everybody up

i liked the mic eyebrows kept going up
and down

well i've been into silent movies and
especially charlie chaplin for quite a

while actually
i watched quite a few charlie chaplin

when i was young
well i think that's an old-fashioned mr

bean
i think quite a lot of the modern ones

just take off it because
a lot of the modern ones it is the bad

guy chase is a good guy but the good guy
wins

you're skinny i thought it was really
good he sort of put the

excitement into the film he brought all
the

violence into it as well
the first impression when i was told

that it was black and white
films i thought it would be quite boring

but it turned out it was really good and
i saw that i didn't really need the

birds where are they fake campers yeah
that's a comedy will always be funny

my

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