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Ricky were best friends. He was
just a normal kid like

just a normal kid like
everybody. We went to school

everybody. We went to school
together. He was very smart. A

together. He was very smart. A
god-fearing person. He studied

god-fearing person. He studied
the bible. He was a good, good

the bible. He was a good, good
student. And then certain

student. And then certain
things started going wrong with

things started going wrong with
ricky, and he started doing bad

ricky, and he started doing bad
things. He was doing something

things. He was doing something
very wrong. My belief -- you

very wrong. My belief -- you
live by the sword, you die by

live by the sword, you die by
the sword, and that's just the

the sword, and that's just the
way it is.

Way it is.
>> welcome to "very scary

>> welcome to "very scary
people." I'm donnie wahlberg.

People." I'm donnie wahlberg.
The media called it a rampage.

The media called it a rampage.
There was a serial killer on

there was a serial killer on
the loose in california. Random

the loose in california. Random
attacks throughout the spring

attacks throughout the spring
and summer of 1985. No one felt

and summer of 1985. No one felt
safe. Police described his

safe. Police described his
actions as savage. He broke

actions as savage. He broke
into people's homes, stole

into people's homes, stole
anything of value, then raped,

anything of value, then raped,
beat, and murdered those he

beat, and murdered those he
found inside. He had been

found inside. He had been
linked to at least 15 murders,

linked to at least 15 murders,
from children to the elderly,

from children to the elderly,
male and female, wealthy and

male and female, wealthy and
poor. Now investigators had a

poor. Now investigators had a
promising lead, one that would

promising lead, one that would
finally end the night stalker's

finally end the night stalker's
reign of terror. Here's part

reign of terror. Here's part
two of "the night stalker: I

two of "the night stalker: I
will be avenged."

will be avenged."
>> the victim, her throat had

>> the victim, her throat had
been slashed.

Been slashed.
>> he found her horribly

>> he found her horribly
mutilated and murdered.

Mutilated and murdered.
>> it appears the suspect got

>> it appears the suspect got
in through an open window.

In through an open window.
>> he stole a lot of jewelry

>> he stole a lot of jewelry
and graduated to these horrible

and graduated to these horrible
crimes of violence.

Crimes of violence.
>> it was a night of sheer

>> it was a night of sheer
terror.

Terror.
>> she begged him not to shoot

>> she begged him not to shoot
her.

Her.
>> it was an isolated murder

>> it was an isolated murder
here and an isolated one there,

here and an isolated one there,
but then, that summer, it was

but then, that summer, it was
just constant.

Just constant.
>> five murders and three

>> five murders and three
sexual attacks in the past

sexual attacks in the past
eight weeks.

Eight weeks.
>> this man may be linked to at

>> this man may be linked to at
least six homicides.

Least six homicides.
>> seven bodies beaten, stabbed,

>> seven bodies beaten, stabbed,
or shot.

Or shot.
>> 33 cases, including 14

>> 33 cases, including 14
murders, have definitely been

murders, have definitely been
linked to the walk-in killer.

Linked to the walk-in killer.
>> the killer leaves the

>> the killer leaves the
pentagram, the mark of the

pentagram, the mark of the
devil.

Devil.
>> he was openly bringing a

>> he was openly bringing a
satanic aspect to the attacks.

Satanic aspect to the attacks.
>> I'm nervous. You know, I'm

>> I'm nervous. You know, I'm
nervous for my family, nervous

nervous for my family, nervous
for my friends and neighbors.

For my friends and neighbors.
>> 29-year-old bill carns was

>> 29-year-old bill carns was
shot in the head.

Shot in the head.
>> but what was different about

>> but what was different about
this incident -- there was a

this incident -- there was a
young man who lived a couple

young man who lived a couple
blocks away.

Blocks away.
>> he spotted a suspicious man,

>> he spotted a suspicious man,
and he is able to get a partial

and he is able to get a partial
license plate number.

License plate number.
>> the license plate matched

>> the license plate matched
with a 1976 orange toyota

with a 1976 orange toyota
station wagon.

Station wagon.
>> and so it was one of the

>> and so it was one of the
best leads that they got

best leads that they got
through the whole

through the whole
investigation.

Investigation.
>> it affords law enforcement

>> it affords law enforcement
the ability to issue an

the ability to issue an
all-points bulletin for the

all-points bulletin for the
orange station wagon. And,

orange station wagon. And,
ultimately, that station wagon

ultimately, that station wagon
turns up abandoned in a parking

turns up abandoned in a parking
lot.

Lot.
>> so the police, they watch

>> so the police, they watch
the car for 24 hours, and the

the car for 24 hours, and the
driver never showed up.

Driver never showed up.
>> eventually, they brought it

>> eventually, they brought it
in to be processed for

in to be processed for
evidence.

Evidence.
>> the forensic examination of

>> the forensic examination of
the car helped reveal the

the car helped reveal the
presence of a latent

presence of a latent
fingerprint off the rearview

fingerprint off the rearview
mirror of the car.

Mirror of the car.
>> there was a brand-new

>> there was a brand-new
technology that was just coming

technology that was just coming
online. It's called the

online. It's called the
automated fingerprint

automated fingerprint
identification system, or afis,

identification system, or afis,
and it's computerized

and it's computerized
technology where a fingerprint

technology where a fingerprint
is scanned, it goes through a

is scanned, it goes through a
database, and compared. The

database, and compared. The
computer spits out possible

computer spits out possible
matches, and then there's a

matches, and then there's a
physical match.

Physical match.
>> he'd been arrested in

>> he'd been arrested in
December of'83 for auto theft,

December of'83 for auto theft,
and that was on file. That's

and that was on file. That's
where the make occurred.

Where the make occurred.
>> and it came in just in time

>> and it came in just in time
to help them identify the night

to help them identify the night
stalker.

Stalker.
>> the individual who we

>> the individual who we
believe is responsible for

believe is responsible for
these crimes -- a man by the

these crimes -- a man by the
name of richard ramirez.

Name of richard ramirez.
>> richard ramirez was a tall,

>> richard ramirez was a tall,
thin, dark-haired, dark-eyed,

thin, dark-haired, dark-eyed,
hispanic male with rotting

hispanic male with rotting
teeth, a 25-year-old described

teeth, a 25-year-old described
drifter from el paso, texas.

Drifter from el paso, texas.
>> there was a booking photo,

>> there was a booking photo,
and his photograph was

and his photograph was
published.

Published.
>> at this very moment, an

>> at this very moment, an
alert is going out to all law

alert is going out to all law
enforcement agencies to be on

enforcement agencies to be on
the lookout for this individual,

the lookout for this individual,
who could be considered armed

who could be considered armed
and extremely dangerous.

And extremely dangerous.
>> and now police all over

>> and now police all over
california are on the hunt for

california are on the hunt for
richard ramirez.

Richard ramirez.
>> the police were also staking

>> the police were also staking
out the greyhound bus station

out the greyhound bus station
where he was known to frequent.

Where he was known to frequent.
>> so he gets off the bus, and

>> so he gets off the bus, and
the first thing that he sees is

the first thing that he sees is
a newspaper stand with his

a newspaper stand with his
picture on the front of "l.A.

Picture on the front of "l.A.
Times." big picture.

Times." big picture.
>> he's surprised when the

>> he's surprised when the
crowd recognizes him. The jig

crowd recognizes him. The jig
is up.

Is up.
>> walk-in killer suspect

>> walk-in killer suspect
richard ramirez had just

richard ramirez had just
discovered he was a wanted man

discovered he was a wanted man
and desperately tried to make a

and desperately tried to make a
run for it.

Run for it.
>> he starts running, he gets

>> he starts running, he gets
into a bus, people recognize

into a bus, people recognize
him in the bus, and he jumps

him in the bus, and he jumps
out the bus.

Out the bus.
>> he fled on foot and tried to

>> he fled on foot and tried to
steal a car.

Steal a car.
>> I was assigned to my car,

>> I was assigned to my car,
4a57, with my partner. We

4a57, with my partner. We
handle a radio call. We receive

handle a radio call. We receive
a broadcast over the air of a

a broadcast over the air of a
possible night stalker

possible night stalker
sighting.

Sighting.
>> he tries to hijack this old

>> he tries to hijack this old
classic mustang. You don't do

classic mustang. You don't do
that in east l.A.

That in east l.A.
>> he chased after the suspect

>> he chased after the suspect
after he claims ramirez was

after he claims ramirez was
trying to steal his red

trying to steal his red
mustang. And even though he

mustang. And even though he
says he was being threatened

says he was being threatened
with a gun, pinon fought that

with a gun, pinon fought that
suspect anyway.

Suspect anyway.
>> then I got him by the neck.

>> then I got him by the neck.
>> got him by the neck, and

>> got him by the neck, and
then what?

Then what?
>> then we struggled back and

>> then we struggled back and
forth over the car.

Forth over the car.
>> during this time, we're

>> during this time, we're
hearing broadcasts of requests

hearing broadcasts of requests
for additional units to

for additional units to
respond. He was last seen

respond. He was last seen
traveling eastbound on 8th

traveling eastbound on 8th
street.

Street.
>> they chased him physically.

>> they chased him physically.
A number of the other neighbors

a number of the other neighbors
got involved.

Got involved.
>> and I remember going up on

>> and I remember going up on
indiana to percy street, and we

indiana to percy street, and we
see people pointing down the

see people pointing down the
direction where this person was

direction where this person was
going.

Going.
>> so then it was a mob. It was

>> so then it was a mob. It was
a mob scene.

A mob scene.
>> then ramirez attempted to

>> then ramirez attempted to
car jack another vehicle. Big

car jack another vehicle. Big
mistake.

Mistake.
>> saw another man hitting his

>> saw another man hitting his
wife while pulling her out of

wife while pulling her out of
her gold granada.

Her gold granada.
>> he hit her?

>> he hit her?
>> yeah, he tried to --

>> yeah, he tried to --
>> where'd he hit her?

>> where'd he hit her?
>> (speaking foreign language)

>> (speaking foreign language)
>> oh, he hit her right here,

>> oh, he hit her right here,
all over there.

All over there.
>> what was she thinking? Was

>> what was she thinking? Was
she scared?

She scared?
>> yes.

>> yes.
>> that's when torres grabbed

>> that's when torres grabbed
the pipe and began hitting that

the pipe and began hitting that
man.

Man.
>> when I exited my police car,

>> when I exited my police car,
he was bleeding from the back

he was bleeding from the back
of his head. I remember that.

Of his head. I remember that.
>> ultimately, a group of folks

>> ultimately, a group of folks
realize who it is and wind up

realize who it is and wind up
grabbing onto ramirez.

Grabbing onto ramirez.
>> at that point, he was dead

>> at that point, he was dead
meat.

Meat.
>> my concern was I wanted to

>> my concern was I wanted to
remove him from that hostile

remove him from that hostile
situation that he was in at the

situation that he was in at the
time. He was hit over the head

time. He was hit over the head
with like a copper rod they

with like a copper rod they
used to ground these telephone

used to ground these telephone
poles.

Poles.
>> I'm sure he was happy to see

>> I'm sure he was happy to see
the cops show up.

The cops show up.
>> he was on the grass parkway

>> he was on the grass parkway
of the street, south side of

of the street, south side of
hubbard, and he was laying

hubbard, and he was laying
there, and the deputy had just

there, and the deputy had just
rolled him over. We requested a

rolled him over. We requested a
rescue ambulance to come.

Rescue ambulance to come.
>> you look at the media

>> you look at the media
coverage of the time and you'll

coverage of the time and you'll
that he's bandaged because he

that he's bandaged because he
was struck on the head during

was struck on the head during
the arrest. And these citizens

the arrest. And these citizens
were heroes. They caught the

were heroes. They caught the
night stalker.

Night stalker.
>> we're happy to report that

>> we're happy to report that
>> we're happy to report that

>> we're happy to report that
the suspect that we have in

the suspect that we have in
custody is richard ramirez,

custody is richard ramirez,
otherwise known as the night

otherwise known as the night
stalker.

Stalker.
>> he's handcuffed hands behind

>> he's handcuffed hands behind
his back. When I was talking to

his back. When I was talking to
him, I felt just different. You

him, I felt just different. You
might call it satanic. I mean,

might call it satanic. I mean,
he just looked the presence of

he just looked the presence of
evil before you.

Evil before you.
>> he was a drifter. He was in

>> he was a drifter. He was in
arizona for a while. Came to

arizona for a while. Came to
california for unknown reasons.

California for unknown reasons.
Started out as a burglar and

started out as a burglar and
graduated to these horrible

graduated to these horrible
crimes of violence and the

crimes of violence and the
satanism, which my personal

satanism, which my personal
view, was an affect on his part

view, was an affect on his part
to stir up notoriety.

To stir up notoriety.
>> the night stalker was now in

>> the night stalker was now in
custody, but the big question

custody, but the big question
was, what happened to this

was, what happened to this
person that created this

person that created this
monster? Ricardo leyva ramirez

monster? Ricardo leyva ramirez
was born February 29, 1960, in

was born February 29, 1960, in
el paso, texas.

El paso, texas.
>> richard's mother worked in a

>> richard's mother worked in a
boot factory, and his father

boot factory, and his father
worked for the santa fe

worked for the santa fe
railroad. Richard was the

railroad. Richard was the
youngest of five kids.

Youngest of five kids.
>> we went to school together.

>> we went to school together.
He was very smart. A

he was very smart. A
god-fearing person. And then he

god-fearing person. And then he
started doing bad things.

Started doing bad things.
>> when we interviewed some

>> when we interviewed some
people, people were saying that

people, people were saying that
he was like a little petty

he was like a little petty
thief.

Thief.
>> and he didn't have a very

>> and he didn't have a very
good reputation.

Good reputation.
>> we found out through medical

>> we found out through medical
records that he had had many

records that he had had many
seizures in the sixth, seventh

seizures in the sixth, seventh
grade, and we had a doctor

grade, and we had a doctor
examine him. And they did some

examine him. And they did some
scans on his brain, and they

scans on his brain, and they
found some abnormalities. There

found some abnormalities. There
was something wrong with him.

Was something wrong with him.
>> maybe he was epileptic, but

>> maybe he was epileptic, but
he never got an official

he never got an official
diagnosis.

Diagnosis.
>> richard ramirez also had a

>> richard ramirez also had a
very disturbed childhood.

Very disturbed childhood.
>> he had what can be

>> he had what can be
considered now a very abusive

considered now a very abusive
father. The father was a very

father. The father was a very
authoritarian. He would not

authoritarian. He would not
hesitate to use the whip and,

hesitate to use the whip and,
you know, belt him. He would go

you know, belt him. He would go
and steal things, he would get,

and steal things, he would get,
you know, caught by his dad,

you know, caught by his dad,
and part of that corrective

and part of that corrective
measure that he would use, he

measure that he would use, he
would tie him up at a cemetery

would tie him up at a cemetery
that was right next door to

that was right next door to
where they used to live. Put

where they used to live. Put
him on crosses, tied up,

him on crosses, tied up,
overnight. So he had to endure

overnight. So he had to endure
those things very early age.

Those things very early age.
We're talking about when he was

we're talking about when he was
12, 14 years old.

12, 14 years old.
>> richard's father was clearly

>> richard's father was clearly
an influence, but many believe

an influence, but many believe
that it was another family

that it was another family
member that may have done the

member that may have done the
most damage.

Most damage.
>> part of ramirez's childhood

>> part of ramirez's childhood
specific to his teen years had

specific to his teen years had
to deal with a cousin, a

to deal with a cousin, a
vietnam veteran who had shared

vietnam veteran who had shared
with him some of the details of

with him some of the details of
war, of combat, of some of the

war, of combat, of some of the
killings that he had witnessed.

Killings that he had witnessed.

>> he taught him how to use the
knife and how to cut throats.

Knife and how to cut throats.
>> ricky was very, very scared

>> ricky was very, very scared
of mike, and he had panic

of mike, and he had panic
attacks. He told me how much he

attacks. He told me how much he
despised mike.

Despised mike.
>> mike, who had all these

>> mike, who had all these
tales about vietnamese women he

tales about vietnamese women he
had raped and killed and

had raped and killed and
polaroid photographs which he

polaroid photographs which he
would show young ramirez of

would show young ramirez of
decapitated heads of women he

decapitated heads of women he
had raped and then beheaded,

had raped and then beheaded,
and who really schooled him in

and who really schooled him in
how to kill stealthily.

How to kill stealthily.
>> sometimes gruesome pictures

>> sometimes gruesome pictures
put images in your mind. And

put images in your mind. And
they did have a great impact on

they did have a great impact on
ricky.

Ricky.
>> there's no question that his

>> there's no question that his
criminal behavior later in life

criminal behavior later in life
reflects lots of sex offenses

reflects lots of sex offenses
that are violent, that involve

that are violent, that involve
torture, that involve horrific,

torture, that involve horrific,
brutal acts, so for him, there

brutal acts, so for him, there
was a clear fusion between lust

was a clear fusion between lust
and cruelty.

And cruelty.
>> when richard was 13, he was

>> when richard was 13, he was
present when mike got into an

present when mike got into an
argument with his wife and shot

argument with his wife and shot
her in the face and killed her.

Her in the face and killed her.
>> ramirez shot many of his

>> ramirez shot many of his
victims in the face. That is

victims in the face. That is
not a common place to shoot

not a common place to shoot
people. And yet he is shooting

people. And yet he is shooting
victims in the face

victims in the face
disproportionately often, just

disproportionately often, just
like his cousin mike shot the

like his cousin mike shot the
first homicide victim ramirez

first homicide victim ramirez
ever witnessed in the face.

Ever witnessed in the face.
>> after he shot his wife, he

>> after he shot his wife, he
went to trial, and he was found

went to trial, and he was found
not guilty by reason of

not guilty by reason of
insanity. He was given a

insanity. He was given a
lighter sentence, and he

lighter sentence, and he
actually, after he finished his

actually, after he finished his
sentence, came back into

sentence, came back into
richard's life. It seems like a

richard's life. It seems like a
pivotal, harrowing moment in

pivotal, harrowing moment in
this young kid's development.

This young kid's development.
>> hardened by his early

>> hardened by his early
experiences, richard became

experiences, richard became
increasingly drawn to macabre

increasingly drawn to macabre
things.

Things.
>> richard took to sleeping in

>> richard took to sleeping in
cemeteries.

Cemeteries.
>> he would wear a lot of black

>> he would wear a lot of black
clothes and go into what you

clothes and go into what you
can perceive as a persona of a

can perceive as a persona of a
gothic, evil night marauder.

Gothic, evil night marauder.
>> he started with marijuana

>> he started with marijuana
and then later on went into

and then later on went into
heavy drugs like acid.

Heavy drugs like acid.
>> he was having epileptic

>> he was having epileptic
seizures. Coupled with the

seizures. Coupled with the
drugs and, you know, all that

drugs and, you know, all that
stuff, it's a combination.

Stuff, it's a combination.
>> he explained it to me that,

>> he explained it to me that,
"you don't care about nobody,

"you don't care about nobody,
not even yourself, " and when

not even yourself, " and when
you come to that stage, it's a

you come to that stage, it's a
very, very dangerous stage.

Very, very dangerous stage.
>> he didn't go to school much.

>> he didn't go to school much.
He started hanging out with a

he started hanging out with a
rough gang. Richard dropped out

rough gang. Richard dropped out
of high school when he was 14.

Of high school when he was 14.
>> he got in trouble with the

>> he got in trouble with the
law. And once that happened, I

law. And once that happened, I
guess he decided not to go back

guess he decided not to go back
to school. And then certain

to school. And then certain
things started going wrong with

things started going wrong with
ricky there.

Ricky there.
>> after ramirez was finally

>> after ramirez was finally
captured, the arresting

captured, the arresting
officers said that he was very

officers said that he was very
polite but he refused to

polite but he refused to
cooperate.

Cooperate.
>> the sheriffs came and

>> the sheriffs came and
transported him later to the

transported him later to the
county jail, where he was

county jail, where he was
booked.

Booked.
>> when he was arrested, his

>> when he was arrested, his
arrest had led to a locker at

arrest had led to a locker at
the greyhound bus station.

The greyhound bus station.
There was a trove of evidence

there was a trove of evidence
recovered in that bus locker --

recovered in that bus locker --
stolen property that was linked

stolen property that was linked
to the victims. The guns

to the victims. The guns
weren't recovered, but

weren't recovered, but
ammunition that had been in

ammunition that had been in
those guns were recovered and

those guns were recovered and
linked to ramirez. The charges

linked to ramirez. The charges
were filed within 48 hours, as

were filed within 48 hours, as
required by law.

Required by law.
>> richard ramirez was charged

>> richard ramirez was charged
with 14 murders, 19 burglaries,

with 14 murders, 19 burglaries,
7 rapes, and a slew of other

7 rapes, and a slew of other
charges.

Charges.
>> richard was arrested in'85,

>> richard was arrested in'85,
and it was three years before

and it was three years before
he went on trial.

He went on trial.
>> aw, you ain't no reporter.

>> aw, you ain't no reporter.
>> richard ramirez was finally

>> richard ramirez was finally
behind bars, and californians

behind bars, and californians
could finally sleep at night

could finally sleep at night
after a year of being on edge.

After a year of being on edge.
Now came the monumental task of

now came the monumental task of
bringing the night stalker to

bringing the night stalker to

>> aw, you ain't no reporter.
>> richard ramirez was finally

>> richard ramirez was finally
behind bars, and californians

behind bars, and californians
could finally sleep at night

could finally sleep at night
after a year of being on edge.

After a year of being on edge.
Now came the monumental task of

now came the monumental task of
bringing the night stalker to

bringing the night stalker to
justice.

Justice.
>> alright, this again is case

>> alright, this again is case
number a771272 of the people of

number a771272 of the people of
the state of california vs.

The state of california vs.
Richard ramirez, the defendant.

Richard ramirez, the defendant.
>> there were tremendous

>> there were tremendous
challenges just putting the

challenges just putting the
case together.

Case together.
>> you've got all these

>> you've got all these
agencies that you've got to

agencies that you've got to
coordinate. You've got all

coordinate. You've got all
these victims that you've got

these victims that you've got
to care for. This was a

to care for. This was a
monumental effort, and then you

monumental effort, and then you
add to it that this is a

add to it that this is a
capital murder case. The

capital murder case. The
preparations are absolutely

preparations are absolutely
incredible.

Incredible.
>> he was initially represented

>> he was initially represented
by two appointed members of the

by two appointed members of the
l.A. County public defender's

l.A. County public defender's
office. Great attorneys. He had

office. Great attorneys. He had
excellent representation. But

excellent representation. But
for whatever reason, ramirez's

for whatever reason, ramirez's
family chose to fire the public

family chose to fire the public
defender's office and bring in

defender's office and bring in
a series of private counsel.

A series of private counsel.
First issue that came up was

first issue that came up was
who was paying for this defense,

who was paying for this defense,
because mounting a capital

because mounting a capital
defense under any circumstances

defense under any circumstances
is tremendously expensive.

Is tremendously expensive.
>> and then he got mr. Gallegos

>> and then he got mr. Gallegos
for a couple of weeks.

For a couple of weeks.
>> my understanding, mr.

>> my understanding, mr.
Ramirez -- that you would like

ramirez -- that you would like
to have mr. Gallegos as your

to have mr. Gallegos as your
attorney. Is that correct?

Attorney. Is that correct?
>> yes.

>> yes.
>> mr. Gallegos apparently had

>> mr. Gallegos apparently had
offered him some deals with

offered him some deals with
movies.

Movies.
>> in the'80s, some serial

>> in the'80s, some serial
killers were treated like

killers were treated like
celebrities, and the media

celebrities, and the media
outlets would actually compete

outlets would actually compete
to get the rights to their

to get the rights to their
stories. Ramirez was in that

stories. Ramirez was in that
group.

Group.
>> there was some indication

>> there was some indication
that there was a book deal in

that there was a book deal in
the works, which poses all

the works, which poses all
kinds of ethical issues, so the

kinds of ethical issues, so the
judge actually appointed

judge actually appointed
another lawyer just to advise

another lawyer just to advise
ramirez as to the possible

ramirez as to the possible
issues of financing his defense

issues of financing his defense
through a book deal, and

through a book deal, and
ramirez refused to talk to that

ramirez refused to talk to that
lawyer. Ultimately, daniel and

lawyer. Ultimately, daniel and
arturo hernandez came on the

arturo hernandez came on the
case. They're not related, even

case. They're not related, even
though they have the same last

though they have the same last
name.

Name.
>> the family has retained us

>> the family has retained us
officially, and as far as we're

officially, and as far as we're
concerned, we are the attorneys

concerned, we are the attorneys
for mr. Ramirez. We ended up

for mr. Ramirez. We ended up
with the case, and it made a

with the case, and it made a
big difference, absolutely.

Big difference, absolutely.
Knowing the culture,

knowing the culture,
bilingualism, because, you know,

bilingualism, because, you know,
in el paso, we speak both

in el paso, we speak both
languages. But we were not

languages. But we were not
welcome in l.A. We were really

welcome in l.A. We were really
in danger.

In danger.
>> I was working as a paralegal

>> I was working as a paralegal
with arturo hernandez, who is

with arturo hernandez, who is
now my husband. The day that

now my husband. The day that
judge soper let them into the

judge soper let them into the
case, I received a phone call

case, I received a phone call
late in the evening, and they

late in the evening, and they
said, "we know who you are. We

said, "we know who you are. We
are the family of one of the

are the family of one of the
victims in the ramirez case,

victims in the ramirez case,
and we're going to kill you."

and we're going to kill you."
so I immediately hung up on the

so I immediately hung up on the
person and hightailed it out of

person and hightailed it out of
the office.

The office.
>> and there was an issue that

>> and there was an issue that
was brought up as to whether or

was brought up as to whether or
not they were qualified to

not they were qualified to
handle a case like this. Both

handle a case like this. Both
had only been attorneys for

had only been attorneys for
about five years and apparently

about five years and apparently
had never handled a capital

had never handled a capital
case.

Case.
>> at preliminary hearings,

>> at preliminary hearings,
defense and prosecution would

defense and prosecution would
get into shouting matches with

get into shouting matches with
each other.

Each other.
>> they're matters of public

>> they're matters of public
record, sir. There's presently

record, sir. There's presently
pending in that court --

pending in that court --
>> these liars.

>> these liars.
>> judge tynan and I did not

>> judge tynan and I did not
get along, to say the least. He

get along, to say the least. He
was always mocking us. He, to

was always mocking us. He, to
me, did not have what they call

me, did not have what they call
judicial temperament. He would

judicial temperament. He would
get (bleep) off.

Get (bleep) off.
>> daniel and arturo hernandez

>> daniel and arturo hernandez
made statements that the

made statements that the
prosecution considered were

prosecution considered were
unsupported by the evidence --

unsupported by the evidence --
flat out lying or going for

flat out lying or going for
publicity. Phil halpin, who was

publicity. Phil halpin, who was
lead counsel, lead prosecutor,

lead counsel, lead prosecutor,
very knowledgeable, knows how

very knowledgeable, knows how
to handle a case, but there was

to handle a case, but there was
really contention between the

really contention between the
hernandezes and phil. And I

hernandezes and phil. And I
think a lot of that was just

think a lot of that was just
natural, given the nature of

natural, given the nature of
the case.

The case.
>> and in the middle of all of

>> and in the middle of all of
this chaos was richard ramirez.

This chaos was richard ramirez.
>> richard ramirez came into

>> richard ramirez came into
court for the final day of his

court for the final day of his
pre-trial hearing flashing the

pre-trial hearing flashing the
same grin he displayed during

same grin he displayed during
testimony about the grisly

testimony about the grisly
details of the night stalker

details of the night stalker
killings. He kept smiling as

killings. He kept smiling as
judge james nelson ruled there

judge james nelson ruled there
is sufficient evidence to bind

is sufficient evidence to bind
the 26-year-old drifter over

the 26-year-old drifter over
for trial on 14 counts of

for trial on 14 counts of
murder plus 36 other counts of

murder plus 36 other counts of
attempted murder, rape, robbery,

attempted murder, rape, robbery,
and burglary.

And burglary.
>> he was arraigned and

>> he was arraigned and
immediately took on the persona

immediately took on the persona
of the night stalker as he left

of the night stalker as he left
court, and the circus began.

Court, and the circus began.
>> ramirez revealed a pentagram,

>> ramirez revealed a pentagram,
a symbol of devil worship, on

a symbol of devil worship, on
his left palm and later shouted

his left palm and later shouted
out what most observers agreed

out what most observers agreed
was "hail satan."

was "hail satan."
>> hail satan.

>> hail satan.
>> I truly believe that all of

>> I truly believe that all of
this was simply him acting out

this was simply him acting out
and wanting to play the role of

and wanting to play the role of
the celebrity serial killer --

the celebrity serial killer --
that he's the night stalker and

that he's the night stalker and
he should be feared.

He should be feared.

>> welcome back to "very scary
people." on August 30, 1988,

people." on August 30, 1988,
almost three years after his

almost three years after his
arrest, the night stalker

arrest, the night stalker
finally stands trial in los

finally stands trial in los
angeles. But the man who

angeles. But the man who
terrified the nation for more

terrified the nation for more
than a year isn't finished yet.

Than a year isn't finished yet.
Instead, he begins a bizarre

instead, he begins a bizarre
new chapter that has some

new chapter that has some
wondering if the night stalker

wondering if the night stalker
could escape justice after all.

Could escape justice after all.
>> it was one of the biggest

>> it was one of the biggest
trials in the history of l.A.

Trials in the history of l.A.
The courtroom was packed, and

the courtroom was packed, and
you had to get there hours

you had to get there hours
ahead of time to even have a

ahead of time to even have a
chance to get inside the

chance to get inside the
courtroom. Richard really loved

courtroom. Richard really loved
the attention.

The attention.
>> ramirez, who had spent

>> ramirez, who had spent
months in the shadows, now

months in the shadows, now
seemed to relish his time in

seemed to relish his time in
the spotlight.

The spotlight.
>> we got him some armani suits

>> we got him some armani suits
donated from goodwill. He

donated from goodwill. He
changed from a really ugly,

changed from a really ugly,
evil-looking guy to a rock

evil-looking guy to a rock
star. And shades, the teeth --

star. And shades, the teeth --
you know, yeah, we got his

you know, yeah, we got his
teeth fixed, so he became a

teeth fixed, so he became a
very well-looking guy.

Very well-looking guy.
>> his transition was just

>> his transition was just
another part of the kind of

another part of the kind of
circus atmosphere that the case

circus atmosphere that the case
was taking on. It's almost what

was taking on. It's almost what
you expected because he just

you expected because he just
seemed to be enjoying his role

seemed to be enjoying his role
as the defendant, the star of

as the defendant, the star of
this case.

This case.
>> the gratification he was

>> the gratification he was
getting, he was being fed, so

getting, he was being fed, so
he said, "wow, " you know, "I'm

he said, "wow, " you know, "I'm
getting all this fame now." and,

getting all this fame now." and,
unfortunately, he got all his

unfortunately, he got all his
glory.

Glory.
>> he had a very powerful

>> he had a very powerful
energy, but it wasn't a good

energy, but it wasn't a good
energy. It was something other

energy. It was something other
than good. It was just

than good. It was just
difficult to explain what you

difficult to explain what you
felt.

Felt.
>> case number a771272, richard

>> case number a771272, richard
ramirez.

Ramirez.
>> ramirez periodically acted

>> ramirez periodically acted
up between trial -- or acted

up between trial -- or acted
out.

Out.
>> (speaking indistinctly)

>> (speaking indistinctly)
parasites.

Parasites.
>> he came to court wearing

>> he came to court wearing
sunglasses.

Sunglasses.
>> judge tynan ordered him to

>> judge tynan ordered him to
take off the sunglasses, and he

take off the sunglasses, and he
said, "no, " in a very loud

said, "no, " in a very loud
voice.

Voice.
>> security in the courtroom

>> security in the courtroom
was increased after ramirez

was increased after ramirez
threatened to have an

threatened to have an
unidentified friend smuggle a

unidentified friend smuggle a
gun in to him so that he could

gun in to him so that he could
kill the prosecution team. They

kill the prosecution team. They
had to erect metal detectors

had to erect metal detectors
blocking the entrance to the

blocking the entrance to the
courtroom, and then ramirez was

courtroom, and then ramirez was
brought in heavily guarded and

brought in heavily guarded and
shackled.

Shackled.
>> there were rumors about

>> there were rumors about
everything -- he was gonna

everything -- he was gonna
bring in a gun -- so we were

bring in a gun -- so we were
frisked all the time. Came with

frisked all the time. Came with
the territory, I guess.

The territory, I guess.
>> there was something that

>> there was something that
happened in the lock-up where

happened in the lock-up where
the bailiffs took him to the

the bailiffs took him to the
ground.

Ground.
>> two officers that were

>> two officers that were
martial arts, ex-navy seals,

martial arts, ex-navy seals,
they were watching him. They

they were watching him. They
said that he went like this,

said that he went like this,
"I'm gonna cut your head off, "

"I'm gonna cut your head off, "
threatening the witness. That

threatening the witness. That
causes a whole, you know,

causes a whole, you know,
bar-fight-like scenario. They

bar-fight-like scenario. They
grabbed him, they drag him, and

grabbed him, they drag him, and
beat the crap out of him.

Beat the crap out of him.
>> with so much drama happening

>> with so much drama happening
in the courtroom, the judge

in the courtroom, the judge
decided that the two hernandez

decided that the two hernandez
attorneys needed help.

Attorneys needed help.
>> judge tynan appointed a

>> judge tynan appointed a
third lawyer. He made a great

third lawyer. He made a great
selection in ray clark, who

selection in ray clark, who
came on and took over a lot of

came on and took over a lot of
the case.

The case.
>> a wonderful, wonderful guy.

>> a wonderful, wonderful guy.
He helped out a lot.

He helped out a lot.
>> but ray clark also had a

>> but ray clark also had a
controversial strategy.

Controversial strategy.
>> any speculation on how mr.

>> any speculation on how mr.
Ramirez might stand right now

ramirez might stand right now
at this point?

At this point?
>> hopefully not guilty. I

>> hopefully not guilty. I
think somebody else did it.

Think somebody else did it.
>> he is innocent in your mind?

>> he is innocent in your mind?
>> he is not guilty in my mind,

>> he is not guilty in my mind,
and I would like for the press

and I would like for the press
to make the distinction.

To make the distinction.
>> the argument at trial was

>> the argument at trial was
that somebody else did all

that somebody else did all
these crimes.

These crimes.
>> some other dude did it. I

>> some other dude did it. I
don't think there was another

don't think there was another
dude like richard ramirez.

Dude like richard ramirez.
>> and that wasn't even the

>> and that wasn't even the
oddest thing about the trial.

Oddest thing about the trial.
>> the entire back row was

>> the entire back row was
filled with goth girls.

Filled with goth girls.
>> why were you in the

>> why were you in the
courtroom today?

Courtroom today?

>> why were you in the
courtroom today?

Courtroom today?
>> I just wanted to see what he

>> I just wanted to see what he
looked like. I think he's cute.

Looked like. I think he's cute.
>> he loved the attention. At

>> he loved the attention. At
this point, the women started

this point, the women started
showing up, the so-called

showing up, the so-called
groupies, who would come to

groupies, who would come to
court and want to see ramirez

court and want to see ramirez
and who were rooting for him.

And who were rooting for him.
>> the first thing I remember

>> the first thing I remember
-- as I walked into the

-- as I walked into the
courtroom, the entire back row

courtroom, the entire back row
was filled with goth girls in

was filled with goth girls in
black leather dresses and dark

black leather dresses and dark
black hair and silver and

black hair and silver and
chains.

Chains.
>> all kinds of people --

>> all kinds of people --
really crazy, you know, street

really crazy, you know, street
folks and some other

folks and some other
professional ones. There was a

professional ones. There was a
lot of weird stuff -- you know,

lot of weird stuff -- you know,
"send me your semen. I want to

"send me your semen. I want to
have your baby." you know, I

have your baby." you know, I
mean, people -- people are

mean, people -- people are
really crazy.

Really crazy.
>> the thing that really

>> the thing that really
astonished me in this was the

astonished me in this was the
attraction of what you'd

attraction of what you'd
describe as otherwise

describe as otherwise
intelligent and capable women

intelligent and capable women
attracted to somebody who is

attracted to somebody who is
accused of crimes of this

accused of crimes of this
horrific magnitude.

Horrific magnitude.
>> everyone makes him look so

>> everyone makes him look so
bad, you know, but I know that

bad, you know, but I know that
he's -- he's a nice person

he's -- he's a nice person
'cause I've met him and I know.

'cause I've met him and I know.
>> it's an extreme, exaggerated

>> it's an extreme, exaggerated
form of the tendency of many

form of the tendency of many
women to be attracted to bad

women to be attracted to bad
boys, and there's some kind of

boys, and there's some kind of
beauty and the beast fantasy

beauty and the beast fantasy
going on. You know, "my love

going on. You know, "my love
will transform this creature

will transform this creature
into a warm, loving being."

into a warm, loving being."
>> doreen lioy was one of

>> doreen lioy was one of
richard's very persistent

richard's very persistent
followers -- groupies. She was

followers -- groupies. She was
a, you know, very eloquent, >>

a, you know, very eloquent, >>
doreen lioy was one of

doreen lioy was one of
richard's very persistent very

richard's very persistent very
sharp lady. One of the

sharp lady. One of the
followers -- groupies. She was

followers -- groupies. She was
a, you know, very eloquent,

a, you know, very eloquent,
very sharp lady. One of the

very sharp lady. One of the
things that she did was things

things that she did was things
that she did was claiming that

that she did was claiming that
she wanted to die with him and

she wanted to die with him and
she would go and claiming that

she would go and claiming that
she wanted to die kill herself,

she wanted to die kill herself,
you know, if he was ever put to

you know, if he was ever put to
death. But she with him and she

death. But she with him and she
would go and kill herself, you

would go and kill herself, you
know, if he was ever put to

know, if he was ever put to
death. But she really liked to,

death. But she really liked to,
you know, write to richard, and

you know, write to richard, and
she apparently wrote very good

she apparently wrote very good
really liked to, you know,

really liked to, you know,
write to richard, and she

write to richard, and she
apparently wrote very good

apparently wrote very good
letters.

Letters.
>> you know, this is los

>> you know, this is los
angeles, and even then, even as

angeles, and even then, even as
a young attorney, it just

a young attorney, it just
seemed to be par for the

seemed to be par for the
course. It's show biz, and it

course. It's show biz, and it
was a distraction because it

was a distraction because it
was annoying.

Was annoying.
>> at that time, it was like

>> at that time, it was like
letters.

Letters.
>> you know, this is los

>> you know, this is los
angeles, and even then, even as

angeles, and even then, even as
the -- the case of the century.

The -- the case of the century.
A young attorney, it just

a young attorney, it just
seemed to be par for the >>

seemed to be par for the >>
there was a lot of press

there was a lot of press
coverage. Mostly print course.

Coverage. Mostly print course.
It's show biz, and it was a

it's show biz, and it was a
distraction because it was

distraction because it was
annoying.

Annoying.
Reporters were there. There

reporters were there. There
were still photographers in the

were still photographers in the
>> at that time, it was like

>> at that time, it was like
the -- the case of the century.

The -- the case of the century.
Courtroom. Television filmed >>

courtroom. Television filmed >>
there was a lot of press

there was a lot of press
coverage. Mostly print the

coverage. Mostly print the
closing argument.

Closing argument.
Reporters were there. There >>

reporters were there. There >>
I ask the first two people,

I ask the first two people,
christopher and virginia were

christopher and virginia were
still photographers in the

still photographers in the
petersen, please step forward.

Petersen, please step forward.
Courtroom. Television filmed

courtroom. Television filmed
the closing argument.

The closing argument.
>> it has been over four years

>> it has been over four years
since the attempted murders of

since the attempted murders of
my husband and myself. An act

my husband and myself. An act
>> I ask the first two people,

>> I ask the first two people,
christopher and virginia that

christopher and virginia that
took only seconds yet to this

took only seconds yet to this
day reverberates with the

day reverberates with the
petersen, please step forward.

Petersen, please step forward.
>> it has been over four years

>> it has been over four years
since the attempted murders of

since the attempted murders of
my husband and myself. An act

my husband and myself. An act
that took only seconds yet to

that took only seconds yet to
this day reverberates with the

this day reverberates with the
original horror.

Original horror.
Original horror.

Original horror.
>> many of the jurors had tears

>> many of the jurors had tears
in their eyes as they listened

in their eyes as they listened
to the horror.

To the horror.
>> your honor, I would like to

>> your honor, I would like to
add to my wife's statement. It

add to my wife's statement. It
is my belief that the death

is my belief that the death
penalty be given without

penalty be given without
reservation.

Reservation.
>> there was direct evidence.

>> there was direct evidence.
Surviving victims were able to

surviving victims were able to
identify ramirez and describe

identify ramirez and describe
what he did. You connect his

what he did. You connect his
fingerprints to a couple of the

fingerprints to a couple of the
scenes. It's either ramirez

scenes. It's either ramirez
doing this or that somebody

doing this or that somebody
else was wearing his

else was wearing his
fingerprints. The guns were

fingerprints. The guns were
linked to ramirez that were

linked to ramirez that were
used at the crime scenes, so

used at the crime scenes, so
that's another piece of the

that's another piece of the
circumstantial evidence.

Circumstantial evidence.
>> and all the stolen property

>> and all the stolen property
traced back to him, as well.

Traced back to him, as well.
>> richard ramirez stole a lot

>> richard ramirez stole a lot
of jewelry, and a lot of this

of jewelry, and a lot of this
jewelry was recovered that was

jewelry was recovered that was
in turn identified by either

in turn identified by either
the victims or the

the victims or the
victims'survivors.

Victims'survivors.
>> despite all the evidence,

>> despite all the evidence,
the defense team continued to

the defense team continued to
argue that richard ramirez was

argue that richard ramirez was
just the wrong guy, and in one

just the wrong guy, and in one
case, they actually tried to

case, they actually tried to
implicate the victim's family.

Implicate the victim's family.
>> jack vincow discovered the

>> jack vincow discovered the
body of his 79-year-old mother

body of his 79-year-old mother
stabbed to death in her los

stabbed to death in her los
angeles apartment, but vincow

angeles apartment, but vincow
later admitted under defense

later admitted under defense
cross-examination that his

cross-examination that his
mother had often engaged in

mother had often engaged in
loud disputes with vincow's

loud disputes with vincow's
mentally-disturbed brother

mentally-disturbed brother
manny.

Manny.
>> we were not here to provide

>> we were not here to provide
total exoneration. We're trying

total exoneration. We're trying
to throw in some kind of a

to throw in some kind of a
reasonable doubt, you know, and

reasonable doubt, you know, and
that was our duty.

That was our duty.
>> but as vincow described how

>> but as vincow described how
he found his mother's body,

he found his mother's body,
ramirez leaned forward and

ramirez leaned forward and
smiled.

Smiled.
>> he had a little smirk on his

>> he had a little smirk on his
face. He was just radiating

face. He was just radiating
evil. Just -- just pure

evil. Just -- just pure
malevolence. I could feel waves

malevolence. I could feel waves
of hatred coming out of him and

of hatred coming out of him and
just pure malice. And I looked

just pure malice. And I looked
at him, and I thought, "I

at him, and I thought, "I
better not look at him

better not look at him
anymore."

anymore."
>> when he got the nickname

>> when he got the nickname
"night stalker, " why not play

"night stalker, " why not play
it out a little more and get

it out a little more and get
some more power by scaring

some more power by scaring
people in the courtroom,

people in the courtroom,
creating images that would be

creating images that would be
remembered decades later of his

remembered decades later of his
antics in the courtroom, so he

antics in the courtroom, so he
succeeded.

Succeeded.
>> this was a long trial. We

>> this was a long trial. We
had approximately 165 witnesses,

had approximately 165 witnesses,
some 8,000 pages of transcript

some 8,000 pages of transcript
or testimony that the jurors

or testimony that the jurors
had to go through to reach

had to go through to reach
their verdict.

Their verdict.
>> and then a bizarre twist

>> and then a bizarre twist
made the public wonder if

made the public wonder if
richard ramirez was still

richard ramirez was still
killing from behind bars.

Killing from behind bars.
>> one day, one of the jurors

>> one day, one of the jurors
didn't show up.

Didn't show up.
>> but big deal. Death always

>> but big deal. Death always
went with the territory. I'll

went with the territory. I'll
see you in disneyland.

See you in disneyland.
>> dark sunglasses and shackles

>> dark sunglasses and shackles
-- that was richard ramirez's

-- that was richard ramirez's

>> dark sunglasses and shackles
-- that was richard ramirez's

-- that was richard ramirez's
daily attire throughout the

daily attire throughout the
almost year-long night stalker

almost year-long night stalker
trial. And from the very

trial. And from the very
beginning, prosecutor philip

beginning, prosecutor philip
halpin left no doubt about his

halpin left no doubt about his
intentions for ramirez.

Intentions for ramirez.
>> we are going to ask for the

>> we are going to ask for the
death penalty.

Death penalty.
>> ray clark's argument was we

>> ray clark's argument was we
got to have sympathy even for

got to have sympathy even for
the worst of all people. But

the worst of all people. But
you're not gonna get sympathy

you're not gonna get sympathy
for a guy that had done all

for a guy that had done all
these horrible things.

These horrible things.
>> some people would hang you

>> some people would hang you
for spitting on a sidewalk. I

for spitting on a sidewalk. I
wouldn't hang you for

wouldn't hang you for
atrocities such as hitler did.

Atrocities such as hitler did.
>> I would've argued

>> I would've argued
differently. We're talking

differently. We're talking
about a death penalty. We're

about a death penalty. We're
gonna take somebody's life. The

gonna take somebody's life. The
state is gonna execute

state is gonna execute
somebody.

Somebody.
>> the prosecution's argument

>> the prosecution's argument
was a very methodical argument.

Was a very methodical argument.
It was simply going through all

it was simply going through all
the crimes, listing all of this

the crimes, listing all of this
evidence that linked ramirez.

Evidence that linked ramirez.
>> it was a long and tumultuous

>> it was a long and tumultuous
trial. In the end, there were

trial. In the end, there were
165 witnesses and 658 pieces of

165 witnesses and 658 pieces of
evidence presented before the

evidence presented before the
defense and the prosecution

defense and the prosecution
gave their final closing

gave their final closing
arguments.

Arguments.
>> as the jury was deliberating

>> as the jury was deliberating
this mountain of evidence that

this mountain of evidence that
they had to consider, one day,

they had to consider, one day,
one of the jurors didn't show

one of the jurors didn't show
up.

Up.
>> then she was found dead.

>> then she was found dead.
>> there was a lot of

>> there was a lot of
speculation in the media that

speculation in the media that
-- that the murder of this

-- that the murder of this
juror was really somehow

juror was really somehow
related to the case, that it

related to the case, that it
was a conspiracy -- maybe,

was a conspiracy -- maybe,
perhaps ramirez had followers

perhaps ramirez had followers
who had done this, that ramirez

who had done this, that ramirez
had somehow orchestrated this.

Had somehow orchestrated this.
>> well, the rumors included me

>> well, the rumors included me
as a co-conspirator. I was the

as a co-conspirator. I was the
prime suspect.

Prime suspect.
>> none of this was true. It

>> none of this was true. It
was an act of domestic violence

was an act of domestic violence
on the part of the juror's

on the part of the juror's
husband. But this was all out

husband. But this was all out
there, and the defense argued

there, and the defense argued
that there should be a mistrial

that there should be a mistrial
because they were afraid that

because they were afraid that
the jurors would speculate that

the jurors would speculate that
it was somehow connected to the

it was somehow connected to the
case.

Case.
>> you know, I thought, "oh,

>> you know, I thought, "oh,
boy. If they're gonna need to

boy. If they're gonna need to
declare a mistrial, that's

declare a mistrial, that's
gonna be god awful."

gonna be god awful."
>> an alternate juror was

>> an alternate juror was
substituted in, and under

substituted in, and under
california law, the jury had to

california law, the jury had to
begin their deliberations all

begin their deliberations all
over again.

Over again.
>> after such a chaotic trial,

>> after such a chaotic trial,
the jury had to deal with this

the jury had to deal with this
awful distraction and the

awful distraction and the
murder of one of their own. But

murder of one of their own. But
in the end, they did their job.

In the end, they did their job.
>> richard ramirez wasn't in

>> richard ramirez wasn't in
the courtroom to hear the

the courtroom to hear the
verdict against him. He opted

verdict against him. He opted
to stay in his cell for what

to stay in his cell for what
was a loud and clear decision.

Was a loud and clear decision.
>> "we, the jury in the above

>> "we, the jury in the above
entitled action, find the

entitled action, find the
defendant, richard ramirez,

defendant, richard ramirez,
guilty of murder."

guilty of murder."
>> they came back with verdicts

>> they came back with verdicts
convicting ramirez of 13 counts

convicting ramirez of 13 counts
of murder, murder in the first

of murder, murder in the first
degree, with various what are

degree, with various what are
called special circumstances

called special circumstances
making him eligible for the

making him eligible for the
death penalty, and then 30

death penalty, and then 30
other felonies.

Other felonies.
>> he was yelling from the

>> he was yelling from the
holding cell, "I'm guilty. I

holding cell, "I'm guilty. I
wanted the death penalty. I

wanted the death penalty. I
want to die now."

want to die now."
>> when richard ramirez was

>> when richard ramirez was
found guilty, he left the

found guilty, he left the
courthouse flashing the sign of

courthouse flashing the sign of
satan.

Satan.
>> evil.

>> evil.
>> when he returned to find out

>> when he returned to find out
if he would live or die, he

if he would live or die, he
flashed an obscenity. The final

flashed an obscenity. The final
courtroom chapter of a serial

courtroom chapter of a serial
killer was played out for

killer was played out for
richard ramirez. The

richard ramirez. The
29-year-old devil-worshipping

29-year-old devil-worshipping
drifter from texas had been

drifter from texas had been
found guilty of the heinous

found guilty of the heinous
crimes. This courtroom date was

crimes. This courtroom date was
to pronounce final sentencing.

To pronounce final sentencing.
>> I don't think anyone was

>> I don't think anyone was
surprised when the sentence was

surprised when the sentence was
read.

Read.
>> "we, the jury in the above

>> "we, the jury in the above
entitled action, found it to be

entitled action, found it to be
an intentional murder, fix the

an intentional murder, fix the
penalty therefore at death."

penalty therefore at death."
>> and ramirez finally spoke,

>> and ramirez finally spoke,
evoking the spirit of satan

evoking the spirit of satan
after a year-long trial.

After a year-long trial.
>> you don't understand me. You

>> you don't understand me. You
are not expected to. You are

are not expected to. You are
not capable of it. I am beyond

not capable of it. I am beyond
your experience. I am beyond

your experience. I am beyond
good and evil. I will be

good and evil. I will be
avenged. Lucifer dwells within

avenged. Lucifer dwells within
us all. That's it.

Us all. That's it.
>> when he was leaving the

>> when he was leaving the
courtroom for the last time, he

courtroom for the last time, he
made some statements.

Made some statements.
>> he made it very clear he is

>> he made it very clear he is
not afraid to die.

Not afraid to die.
>> but big deal. Death always

>> but big deal. Death always
went with the territory. I'll

went with the territory. I'll
see you in disneyland.

See you in disneyland.
>> as the trial ended, his time

>> as the trial ended, his time
in the spotlight was over, but

in the spotlight was over, but
still there was one person who

still there was one person who
would stick by his side.

Would stick by his side.
>> here she comes.

>> here she comes.
>> she's here and walking in

>> she's here and walking in
the door.

The door.
>> doreen lioy was the winner

>> doreen lioy was the winner
in the serious suitors that he

in the serious suitors that he
had attracted during the course

had attracted during the course
of the trial.

Of the trial.
>> I just wanted to say I'm

>> I just wanted to say I'm
ecstatically happy today and

ecstatically happy today and
very, very proud to have

very, very proud to have
married richard and to be his

married richard and to be his
wife. And I hope that you will

wife. And I hope that you will
be very respectful of the day

be very respectful of the day
and let me go and enjoy my day

and let me go and enjoy my day
in peace, and I appreciate your

in peace, and I appreciate your
patience. Thank you.

Patience. Thank you.
>> couldn't you respond to some

>> couldn't you respond to some
of the allegations that you're

of the allegations that you're
a recluse, that you live in a

a recluse, that you live in a
fantasy world, things like that?

Fantasy world, things like that?
>> no.

>> no.
>> don't you want to speak to

>> don't you want to speak to
us?

Us?
>> can you just say why, doreen?

>> can you just say why, doreen?
>> in 2009, the san francisco

>> in 2009, the san francisco
police department was able to

police department was able to
link an unsolved homicide of a

link an unsolved homicide of a
small child.

Small child.
>> once he had his dna in the

>> once he had his dna in the
system, they started finding

system, they started finding
out, for example, that little

out, for example, that little
girl, 9-year-old that was

girl, 9-year-old that was
killed in san francisco.

Killed in san francisco.
>> she was killed and sexually

>> she was killed and sexually
assaulted, which was a terrible

assaulted, which was a terrible
case.

Case.
>> doreen lioy divorced ramirez,

>> doreen lioy divorced ramirez,
citing this information as the

citing this information as the
reason she wanted to distance

reason she wanted to distance
herself from the night stalker.

Herself from the night stalker.
>> he never showed any sign of

>> he never showed any sign of
remorse all through the trials.

Remorse all through the trials.
He never showed any sign of

he never showed any sign of
remorse whatsoever. He was just

remorse whatsoever. He was just
a monster. I don't think we've

a monster. I don't think we've
seen the likes of him before or

seen the likes of him before or
since, and thank god for that.

Since, and thank god for that.
>> since the mid-1980s, I've

>> since the mid-1980s, I've
asked the correctional officers

asked the correctional officers
to unchain the inmate that I

to unchain the inmate that I
was going to interview so that

was going to interview so that
he'd be comfortable. Richard

he'd be comfortable. Richard
ramirez is the only inmate I've

ramirez is the only inmate I've
interviewed for whom I did not

interviewed for whom I did not
request he be freed and

request he be freed and
unchained.

Unchained.
>> it has put a huge detour

>> it has put a huge detour
into my life. I wasn't the same

into my life. I wasn't the same
person I was prior to the

person I was prior to the
injury. Now it's time to pick

injury. Now it's time to pick
up the pieces and keep going

up the pieces and keep going
on.

On.
>> he would've never stopped.

>> he would've never stopped.
He would've never stopped.

He would've never stopped.
>> richard ramirez continued to

>> richard ramirez continued to
attract female admirers from

attract female admirers from

behind the walls of san quentin
up until his end. After almost

up until his end. After almost
24 years on death row, ramirez

24 years on death row, ramirez
died on June 7, 2013, at the

died on June 7, 2013, at the
age of 53 -- not by execution

age of 53 -- not by execution
but from complications related

but from complications related
to b-cell lymphoma. Meanwhile,

to b-cell lymphoma. Meanwhile,
victims'families and survivors

victims'families and survivors
of the night stalkers'vicious

of the night stalkers'vicious
attacks did what they could to

attacks did what they could to
move forward with their lives.

Move forward with their lives.
I'm donnie wahlberg. Thanks for

I'm donnie wahlberg. Thanks for
watching. Good night.