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The following is a presentation
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of HBO Sports.
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- As the novel coronavirus
continues to spread worldwide
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from its starting point
in Wuhan, China...
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- 400,000 diagnosed cases
of COVID-19 across the globe.
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- Another tragic
milestone today:
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the most reported
coronavirus deaths
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in a single day...
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- Closing
almost all businesses...
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- Shows a record-shattering
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6.6 million Americans filed
for unemployment benefits...
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- More of the world's
biggest sporting contests
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canceled or postponed.
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- Tokyo 2020 organizers
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and the International
Olympic Committee
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bowing to global pressure.
- The prime minister announced
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the 2020 Summer Olympic Games
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will be postponed
until summer 2021.
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- The summer of 2020
was supposed to be the summer
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of the Tokyo Olympic
and Paralympic Games...
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More than 15,000 athletes
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from over 200 countries
coming together,
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all of them eager
to realize the dreams
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they had chased
since they were kids.
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The venues were built.
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The tickets were sold.
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The athletes were ready.
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And then...
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all of our lives
were turned upside down,
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and the Olympics were postponed
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for the first time ever.
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Now, the Games getting delayed
pales in comparison
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to the tragedies
that COVID-19 would cause
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all over the world,
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but the impact wasn't just
on people's physical health.
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It was also dangerous
for our mental health.
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Fear, uncertainty, disruption,
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all of that was very real
for millions of people.
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Mental health was something
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I had been thinking about a lot
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long before the virus hit.
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With the 2020 Games approaching,
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the first Olympics
I wouldn't be a part of
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since I was 11 years old,
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I found myself looking back
on the highs and lows
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and how close I came
to losing it all.
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And then when the Games
were postponed,
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what I thought about
was the mental health
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of all the athletes
who had worked so hard
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and now had to pick up
the pieces
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with everything changed.
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We should've all been watching
the Olympics together
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in the summer of 2020,
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but instead,
I'd like to tell you
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about our journeys to the dream
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and how much more there can be
to all of our stories,
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there and back.
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- You broke more than 25
national age group records.
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You got the world championship
coming up.
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What more do you want
to accomplish?
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- I guess my long-term goal is
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to win the gold medal in Athens
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and go in more than one event.
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So I mean, I have
a lot of goals,
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but I think that I just want
to take it day by day.
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When you're an Olympian,
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you like to think
that your story
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is different
from all of the others,
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but really...
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- Put your hands together
for Jeremy Bloom!
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- They all pretty much
start the same.
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- I want to go to the Olympics
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and win a gold medal in skiing.
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- My goal is to, like,
go to the Olympics,
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be on the Olympic team.
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- And the goal
that I wanted to reach
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was to be at the Olympics
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and really compete
with all the great skaters.
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- At some point or another,
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all of us get
this idea in our heads:
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we can make it to the Olympics.
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- A good run!
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- And everything
just goes from there.
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- I'd always watch
the Olympics with my parents,
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like, "Wow, this is
the highest level there is."
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That's how my mom
explained it to me.
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My parents, my mom and my dad,
had sat me down.
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They're like, "This is...
It doesn't get
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"any higher than this.
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"This is the Olympics.
That's it.
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"These athletes have worked
their entire lives
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"for this moment,
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"and that's why they go
to the greatest lengths
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to try and win."
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I just remember being awestruck
by that.
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- Growing up
in a single-parent household
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and having the type of energy
that I did,
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whether you call it ADHD,
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you call it, you know,
just raw energy
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that can't be tapped
in any capacity,
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the only thing that my dad saw
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that could potentially
redirect my energy
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into something positive
was sport,
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and he was right.
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- Well, I was born and raised
in Park City, Utah,
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pretty much
the Adventure Town, USA.
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I started skiing
when I was two years old,
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which was pretty awesome.
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I have pictures of it.
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I don't remember
my first time skiing,
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but winter sports has always
been kind of my thing.
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- I started skating
when I was eight.
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We get on the ice,
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and I just kind of love it
right away.
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I didn't perceive myself
as being, like,
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amazingly talented,
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but I was aware
that I was better
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than, like,
some of the other kids,
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and it just really rapidly
snowballed from there.
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- He's called
a typical 15-year-old teenager
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by his coach,
except for one small detail:
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Michael Phelps is one
of the fastest swimmers
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in the world.
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- None of us
had normal childhoods per se.
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- 26-0-0.
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Boy, that first lap
is really good.
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- Nobody who is going
to expend that kind of effort
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to achieve that kind of goal
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is going to be
just like everybody else.
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- I certainly think
this is just the beginning.
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He's certainly not as strong
as he's gonna get,
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and we have limited
his training,
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so it's not even near
where he's gonna be.
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- Now, there are good sides
to that,
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and there are bad sides to that.
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For me, I don't want to say
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I would've done anything
differently
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if I could do it all over again.
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I was competitive. I was hungry.
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I loved it. I chose it.
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But the truth was that my focus
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got incredibly narrow
and intense really quickly,
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which would have ramifications
later in life...
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- Arms forward. Good, forward.
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- Even if it wasn't possible
to realize that at the time.
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- I don't think that's an excuse
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for not learning a skill.
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- I didn't fucking say it was.
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- Go ahead, put that
on the movie.
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- Go ahead!
- Put your attitude
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of excellence right on there.
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- One...
- You think and you operate
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as if everything revolves
around this sole focus,
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and that sole focus
is the Olympics.
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Everything else is secondary,
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so your relationships,
your school,
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your family, your other friends,
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everything that's not catered
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to you performing
at the highest level in sport,
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it's a nonstarter conversation.
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- 13-year-old Sasha Cohen.
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- For me, it wasn't a sacrifice.
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Everything else in life
was an obstacle
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that I wanted to push aside.
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I didn't want to spend time
with friends.
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I didn't want to go to school.
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I wanted to do
everything I could
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to be the best skater I could.
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- It's more of, like,
a lifestyle.
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It's how I lived.
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Any little step I could take,
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anything to get the edge
or advantage
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over my competitors and to win.
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My world was based on that
for sure.
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- I went five
or six years straight,
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365 days a year.
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The difference
between great and good:
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I think the greats do things
when they don't always want to,
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and I think that's
what makes them great.
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I looked up to Jordan forever.
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That guy probably didn't want
to play basketball every day.
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He's the GOAT.
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Peyton,
he didn't have to study film
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for thousands and thousands
of hours.
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He did it because he wanted
to be great.
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- Up! Good.
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- When I graduated high school,
I remember working out
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like crazy
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because I wanted
to be an athlete.
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Everyone's like, "Oh, my gosh,
you work out so much,"
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and I was like, "It's nothing
compared to the Olympians."
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When I first got into skeleton,
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I ended up on my own at 16,
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being offered
a free place to live, food,
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and a potential scholarship
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for whatever school
I could try to get to.
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Was not really a hard choice...
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Go to the Olympics
or go to college...
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And I basically chose sport
over academics.
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I started winning everything.
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It was addicting. It was fun.
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I just got sucked in.
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- I didn't develop
outside interests.
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I had a very singular focus
on my sport
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and on figure skating.
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It was like a compulsion.
It was necessary.
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- Most of my career,
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I was driven purely
by a fear of failure,
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so, unlike a lot of athletes
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who are driven
by "I want to win,
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I want to be the champion,"
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I was driven purely
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that I felt
that I was inadequate.
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I wasn't the best guy
on the ice.
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I wasn't the guy who was
the most talented genetically,
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physically gifted.
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I could probably say
I was the hardest worker,
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and I did the most amount
of time in the sport,
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because of my obsession
with "it wasn't good enough."
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Every day wasn't good enough.
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For 15 years, I lived that life.
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It was like, "I have to be here,
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"because there's someone else
on the other side of the world
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"who's younger than me,
that's better than me,
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"that just overall
is superior to me
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"in every single capacity,
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so I have to find a way to win."
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- After all that time
you put in...
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The early mornings,
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the countless laps in the pool
or around the track
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or rink or whatever...
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When you finally go
to an Olympics,
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I think the only word
that you can use
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to describe it
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is "overwhelming."
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You've basically been training
your whole life
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for this one moment,
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and you know
it's not coming around again
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for another four years, if ever.
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That's absolutely
all in your head.
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And then throw in the fact
that it's all unfolding
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in front of the entire world?
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Like I said, overwhelming.
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- First Olympics,
I was extremely nervous.
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It met my expectations
in the fact
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that I knew it was
the biggest stage
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that I would perform in my life,
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and just
those overwhelming emotions
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and just completely was
an amazing experience.
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You felt like everything
was special,
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and you're trying
to take it all in.
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As a track and field athlete,
I had no clue if I'd ever make
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another Olympic team.
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Most track and field athletes
only make one team,
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so I just wanted to make
the most of the experience.
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- My first Olympics,
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I was 19 and the number one
ranked skier in the world,
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and, you know,
"Sports Illustrated"
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picked me to win
the Olympic gold,
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and I was beyond nervous.
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I mean, it was paralyzing.
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- It's a whirlwind.
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It's nothing
like any competition
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I'd ever been to before.
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It was inspiring; it was amazing
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to sit with all
these other athletes
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around the world
and, like, eat your breakfast.
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I mean, it was just
like this glow,
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this sort of vibe
while you were there.
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- It completely blew my mind.
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Flags from every country.
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There was so much excitement
and buzz.
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It was on no other level
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that I can compare
to anything in my life.
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You get on an Olympic venue bus,
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and you go to the arena
to compete,
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and you have
this kind of epiphany
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that, when you get back
on this bus again tonight,
279
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like, your fate
will have been sealed.
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Something will be written
into history
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that can never be unwritten
or rewritten.
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And it's just a bus ride,
283
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but it's like,
the enormity of it is huge.
284
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- It's all they've done
285
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for the past ten years, and now,
286
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for the next 40 seconds
of our human lives,
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this moment will dictate
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whether they have a gold...
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or not.
290
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- Phelps, the greatest
of all time, iconic figure,
291
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writes his way
into the history books
292
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yet again.
293
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- So then it's over.
294
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- Steve Holcomb
has raced for gold!
295
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- And however it ends...
296
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- There will be no medals
of any color for Jeremy Bloom.
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- The bigger point
is that it's over,
298
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everything you've worked for
in the rearview mirror,
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and reckoning with that
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is something that unites
all Olympians,
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whether you ended up
on top of the podium...
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or in total disbelief.
303
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- Oh, that's a foul.
304
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- I fell twice
in the first 30 seconds
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00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:54,250
of my long program.
306
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- And another step out.
307
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- I was shell-shocked.
I was devastated.
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I was just, like, stunned.
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And not only are you having
all these feelings,
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but you are having
all these feelings
311
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while the entire world
is singularly focused on you.
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And you hear with every fall
just a...
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"Oh,"
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or, like, just, like, the hush.
315
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You already have
all those feelings,
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00:14:29,125 --> 00:14:30,125
and then this, like...
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The most dramatic sound effects
318
00:14:31,792 --> 00:14:34,542
that are, like, laid down,
the soundtrack
319
00:14:34,625 --> 00:14:38,250
to this, like, devastating
30 seconds of your life.
320
00:14:41,041 --> 00:14:42,709
This was my Olympics, you know.
321
00:14:44,917 --> 00:14:47,041
It was not the performance
I wanted to give,
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00:14:47,125 --> 00:14:50,208
but I ended up
with a silver medal.
323
00:14:50,291 --> 00:14:54,041
It's very hard to know
what you're capable of,
324
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and sometimes
circumstances in life happen,
325
00:14:58,834 --> 00:15:00,375
and you have to do
the best you can,
326
00:15:00,458 --> 00:15:03,250
and sometimes
timing sucks, right?
327
00:15:06,458 --> 00:15:07,917
- Unless you're
an Olympic athlete,
328
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,709
it's difficult to understand,
329
00:15:09,792 --> 00:15:11,208
when you fail at the Olympics,
330
00:15:11,291 --> 00:15:13,333
what a big deal that is.
331
00:15:13,417 --> 00:15:15,393
From an outside perspective,
you could say, "Oh, big deal.
332
00:15:15,417 --> 00:15:16,333
"You're an Olympian.
333
00:15:16,417 --> 00:15:18,375
Like, people have
bigger problems,"
334
00:15:18,458 --> 00:15:19,834
and that is true,
335
00:15:19,917 --> 00:15:21,083
but for Olympians,
336
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that's your life.
337
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That's really what defines you.
338
00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,250
- In that 2002 Olympic
500-meter final
339
00:15:31,333 --> 00:15:32,417
in men's long track,
340
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the difference
between gold medal,
341
00:15:34,166 --> 00:15:37,208
recognized, celebrated,
and fourth place
342
00:15:37,291 --> 00:15:38,291
is this difference.
343
00:15:39,333 --> 00:15:43,041
Four guys just went by
in that time frame,
344
00:15:43,125 --> 00:15:45,709
and you worked
an entire lifetime for that.
345
00:15:45,792 --> 00:15:47,417
The difference is,
346
00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:51,709
the guy who won, we celebrate;
we look to; we love.
347
00:15:51,792 --> 00:15:54,125
The guy in fourth, you never
hear from that person.
348
00:15:54,208 --> 00:15:56,125
He disappears. He dissipates.
349
00:15:56,208 --> 00:15:59,250
He becomes a civilian.
350
00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:02,458
It's gold and then what?
351
00:16:04,542 --> 00:16:06,458
- So with all the hype
surrounding Bode Miller
352
00:16:06,542 --> 00:16:08,125
coming in here to possibly medal
353
00:16:08,208 --> 00:16:10,250
in all five events,
354
00:16:10,333 --> 00:16:13,000
he will not have a medal at all.
355
00:16:13,083 --> 00:16:14,166
- Mainstream media,
356
00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,970
especially in America
but really everywhere,
357
00:16:16,041 --> 00:16:17,685
they love that feeling
of building somebody up
358
00:16:17,709 --> 00:16:20,291
because that gives them control
over the situation.
359
00:16:20,375 --> 00:16:23,125
You know, they pump them up,
pump up expectations,
360
00:16:23,208 --> 00:16:26,417
and then it's good news,
it's good content
361
00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:28,340
if they can chop their legs
out from under them
362
00:16:28,417 --> 00:16:30,458
and see a hero
come crashing down.
363
00:16:30,542 --> 00:16:31,726
It's good for everybody's ego.
364
00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:34,125
Everybody likes to read
about that stuff.
365
00:16:34,208 --> 00:16:35,750
- This just in,
ladies and gentlemen:
366
00:16:35,834 --> 00:16:37,667
Bode Miller
has just tested negative
367
00:16:37,750 --> 00:16:39,083
for gold medals.
368
00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:41,875
- And then
to build them back up,
369
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,709
then you have this underdog,
370
00:16:43,792 --> 00:16:45,291
the hero reborn.
371
00:16:45,375 --> 00:16:48,834
There's just a lot of
natural flow to that pattern.
372
00:16:48,917 --> 00:16:50,458
- Bode Miller, everybody!
373
00:16:52,750 --> 00:16:54,101
- I've gone through it
enough times
374
00:16:54,125 --> 00:16:56,834
to know what it looks like
from the inside.
375
00:16:56,917 --> 00:16:58,125
- Check that out.
376
00:16:59,917 --> 00:17:01,667
- In '05 when I won the overall,
377
00:17:01,750 --> 00:17:02,875
I was the golden boy,
378
00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:04,239
and even though I was rebellious
379
00:17:04,291 --> 00:17:08,083
and they knew my patterns,
they knew all my stuff...
380
00:17:08,166 --> 00:17:10,709
Wasn't like I wasn't
having fun or partying
381
00:17:10,792 --> 00:17:12,625
or going out...
They sort of covered it up
382
00:17:12,709 --> 00:17:14,542
and made it so they could refine
383
00:17:14,625 --> 00:17:16,166
the picture of the hero
on the top,
384
00:17:16,250 --> 00:17:17,834
and then they were setting it up
385
00:17:17,917 --> 00:17:20,125
so that if I did well,
they'd have something else
386
00:17:20,208 --> 00:17:21,542
in the Olympics, and instead,
387
00:17:21,625 --> 00:17:23,250
I didn't do as well
as I could've,
388
00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:25,000
and they cut the legs out.
389
00:17:25,083 --> 00:17:28,041
- Bode Miller is 0 for 5.
390
00:17:28,125 --> 00:17:30,208
- Failing to do well in races
always sucks.
391
00:17:30,291 --> 00:17:31,709
I mean, it was my life,
392
00:17:31,792 --> 00:17:33,542
and I had
a huge opportunity there,
393
00:17:33,625 --> 00:17:35,583
and, you know,
that just is annoying
394
00:17:35,667 --> 00:17:36,747
from a personal standpoint.
395
00:17:36,792 --> 00:17:38,875
I think every athlete
would relate to that.
396
00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:44,250
- I was running
the best races of my life,
397
00:17:44,333 --> 00:17:46,709
the best times of my life.
398
00:17:46,792 --> 00:17:48,542
And I hit one hurdle,
399
00:17:48,625 --> 00:17:51,041
and it cost me
the Olympic gold medal.
400
00:17:51,125 --> 00:17:52,417
- Lolo Jones has the lead,
401
00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:53,417
but she hit the hurdle.
402
00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:54,417
She hit hurdle number nine,
403
00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:56,041
the next-to-last hurdle.
404
00:17:56,125 --> 00:17:58,542
Lolo Jones hit the hurdle
405
00:17:58,625 --> 00:18:01,333
and did not get a medal.
406
00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:03,542
- In my life,
407
00:18:03,625 --> 00:18:07,041
I've probably hit a hurdle
three times.
408
00:18:07,125 --> 00:18:11,250
I'm talking about training,
races, practices.
409
00:18:11,333 --> 00:18:13,917
And now I'm known
as a girl who hits hurdles.
410
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,166
- She looked to have
the gold in her pocket.
411
00:18:17,250 --> 00:18:19,875
- I got ripped across the media,
412
00:18:19,959 --> 00:18:21,439
like, "Oh, she had
all these sponsors.
413
00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:22,792
How could she not medal?"
414
00:18:22,875 --> 00:18:25,583
Like, "She's such
a freaking flop."
415
00:18:25,667 --> 00:18:27,542
It was so overwhelming,
416
00:18:27,625 --> 00:18:29,625
and I had no one to talk to.
417
00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:31,583
I would be washing dishes,
418
00:18:31,667 --> 00:18:34,375
like, months later,
and I'd think about it,
419
00:18:34,458 --> 00:18:35,917
and I'd literally be frozen,
420
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,083
like, "What could I have
done differently?"
421
00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:41,709
I'd be walking
in the grocery store,
422
00:18:41,792 --> 00:18:43,952
day's going fine, and then
someone would come up to me:
423
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,750
"Oh, I feel so bad
for what happened."
424
00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:49,625
- It was painful to see
my family's reaction to it,
425
00:18:49,709 --> 00:18:50,959
what they had to go through.
426
00:18:51,041 --> 00:18:52,184
I think that's
what hurt the most
427
00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:55,750
was seeing my image
tarnished in their eyes,
428
00:18:55,834 --> 00:18:57,959
that I shouldn't be allowed
back in the country,
429
00:18:58,041 --> 00:18:59,041
that I was, you know,
430
00:18:59,083 --> 00:19:02,750
the most disgraceful
Olympic athlete ever
431
00:19:02,834 --> 00:19:04,667
in the history of the world.
432
00:19:06,375 --> 00:19:09,917
Your Q rating is where they
tell 1,000 people your name.
433
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,080
Do they recognize the name?
434
00:19:11,125 --> 00:19:13,166
Do they have a favorable
or an unfavorable opinion
435
00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:15,125
of your brand or your name?
436
00:19:15,208 --> 00:19:18,166
My Q rating was lower
than Mike Tyson, who had...
437
00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:20,125
- What happened here?
- Bit off Holyfield's ear
438
00:19:20,208 --> 00:19:21,709
or O.J. Simpson, who at the time
439
00:19:21,792 --> 00:19:25,458
had a double murder and ran.
440
00:19:25,542 --> 00:19:27,125
- Could you imagine?
441
00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:28,488
Like, let's say
you get a divorce
442
00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:30,166
and then everywhere you go
in public,
443
00:19:30,250 --> 00:19:31,893
someone's like,
"Oh, I feel so bad for you.
444
00:19:31,917 --> 00:19:33,166
I heard you got that divorce."
445
00:19:33,250 --> 00:19:35,166
Happened so many times,
446
00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:38,542
and I had no one
to help me through that.
447
00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:53,166
- It's nice to get home.
448
00:19:53,250 --> 00:19:55,125
The celebration
kind of continues.
449
00:19:57,250 --> 00:19:59,500
People are so happy.
They're so proud.
450
00:20:01,583 --> 00:20:03,166
They show their support.
451
00:20:03,250 --> 00:20:05,000
- The fans lined York Road
for hours,
452
00:20:05,083 --> 00:20:06,875
ready to get an up-close look
453
00:20:06,959 --> 00:20:08,375
at their hometown heroes.
454
00:20:08,458 --> 00:20:10,458
- He's adorable!
- Look at the face.
455
00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:13,208
- I want to be just like him.
456
00:20:13,291 --> 00:20:14,709
- And then it kind of dies down.
457
00:20:17,834 --> 00:20:19,375
Then you basically get
in that part
458
00:20:19,458 --> 00:20:20,709
where you're either like,
459
00:20:20,792 --> 00:20:22,101
"Am I gonna put myself
through this
460
00:20:22,125 --> 00:20:24,041
"for four more years,
461
00:20:24,125 --> 00:20:26,875
or am I gonna find
something else to do?"
462
00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:30,417
And we're lost.
463
00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,267
I think that's where
a lot of it really comes from
464
00:20:32,291 --> 00:20:34,542
is, we're just so lost,
'cause we spent four years
465
00:20:34,625 --> 00:20:38,000
grinding for that one moment,
466
00:20:38,083 --> 00:20:41,208
and now we don't know
what the hell to do.
467
00:20:41,291 --> 00:20:43,166
I think it's probably safe
to say
468
00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:45,083
that a good 80%, maybe more,
469
00:20:45,166 --> 00:20:49,208
go through some kind
of post-Olympic depression.
470
00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:53,250
- After the Olympics,
471
00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:55,667
the village doors close,
472
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:57,625
and then that's kind of it.
473
00:20:59,208 --> 00:21:01,417
So all the media's gone.
474
00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:04,417
All the exposure's gone.
475
00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,250
Before the 2008 Games,
476
00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:08,000
I remember one of the coaches
477
00:21:08,083 --> 00:21:09,750
specifically on the dive team.
478
00:21:09,834 --> 00:21:11,750
This was my first Olympic Games,
479
00:21:11,834 --> 00:21:14,458
something I'd dreamed of
since I was seven years old,
480
00:21:14,542 --> 00:21:16,750
and he had said,
"Don't be surprised
481
00:21:16,834 --> 00:21:19,750
after the Olympics
for the post-Olympic blues."
482
00:21:24,125 --> 00:21:25,500
I was 19, and I was like,
483
00:21:25,583 --> 00:21:27,250
"Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think I'm better
484
00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:29,917
than that happening."
485
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,083
- After every Olympics,
win or lose,
486
00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:34,792
I felt, like,
a dramatic emptiness,
487
00:21:34,875 --> 00:21:39,583
just because your whole world
is built around this one day
488
00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:41,250
and you're putting
so much on it,
489
00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:43,125
so much expectation and pressure
490
00:21:43,208 --> 00:21:44,959
and interviews and,
491
00:21:45,041 --> 00:21:46,166
"What am I gonna do next?"
492
00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:49,458
And you're plotting out
this course of your life.
493
00:21:49,542 --> 00:21:52,667
After every Olympics,
there's this incredible crash.
494
00:21:54,208 --> 00:21:57,125
Nothing really matters
as much anymore.
495
00:21:57,208 --> 00:21:58,917
Like, "Oh, I guess
I can stay up all night,
496
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,291
"'cause we're not competing.
497
00:22:01,375 --> 00:22:04,000
You know, I guess I'll have
an extra slice of cheesecake."
498
00:22:10,834 --> 00:22:15,333
I remember trying to compete
after the Olympics, and...
499
00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:16,667
it was awful.
500
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:19,291
I had no motivation.
501
00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:22,000
Like, well,
what does this matter?
502
00:22:22,083 --> 00:22:23,601
Like, what is this
compared to the magnitude
503
00:22:23,625 --> 00:22:25,625
of what I had just accomplished?
504
00:22:27,125 --> 00:22:28,765
Just like anybody,
if you travel the world
505
00:22:28,792 --> 00:22:30,834
with a bunch of friends,
like, leaving summer camp,
506
00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:32,351
whatever,
you come home, and you're like,
507
00:22:32,375 --> 00:22:35,750
"Wow."
508
00:22:37,583 --> 00:22:38,667
"Now what?"
509
00:22:38,750 --> 00:22:40,834
Like, it's just, like, quiet,
510
00:22:40,917 --> 00:22:42,208
and then you kind of feel like,
511
00:22:42,291 --> 00:22:43,371
"Well, what did I do wrong?
512
00:22:43,417 --> 00:22:46,667
"Like... what happened?
Is it... like...
513
00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:49,417
where did everyone go?"
You know?
514
00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:50,700
Like, you're happy to be home,
515
00:22:50,750 --> 00:22:54,083
but it's just this, like,
isolated, cut-off feeling.
516
00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:57,726
- Why do you think so many
of the athletes get depressed
517
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:59,834
when they come home
from the Olympics?
518
00:22:59,917 --> 00:23:02,041
- I think it's something
that all human beings
519
00:23:02,125 --> 00:23:03,709
are susceptible to,
520
00:23:03,792 --> 00:23:06,333
and with athletes,
it's even more so, I think,
521
00:23:06,417 --> 00:23:08,709
because we have
such a great ability
522
00:23:08,792 --> 00:23:10,375
to hyper-focus.
523
00:23:10,458 --> 00:23:13,041
So if you are incentivized
and you're focused on winning
524
00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:14,875
or you're focused on being
the best you can
525
00:23:14,959 --> 00:23:16,542
at this one thing
526
00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,834
and you're putting all you have
into that
527
00:23:18,917 --> 00:23:20,667
without any other balance,
528
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:21,875
when that ends
529
00:23:21,959 --> 00:23:24,500
and then you're out
of the fight-or-flight mode
530
00:23:24,583 --> 00:23:26,875
of, like, "I have to perform,
I have to perform,"
531
00:23:26,959 --> 00:23:28,208
you get left wondering, like,
532
00:23:28,291 --> 00:23:29,875
what do you do with your energy?
533
00:23:29,959 --> 00:23:33,875
I feel like we forgot
about how human Olympians are
534
00:23:33,959 --> 00:23:36,875
and the needs we need
as human beings.
535
00:23:36,959 --> 00:23:38,893
It's not about winning.
It's not about performance.
536
00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:41,250
Granted, that would...
That's all great,
537
00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:42,709
but what about
our mental health?
538
00:23:42,792 --> 00:23:45,291
What about our families?
What about our education?
539
00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:47,959
What about after sport?
540
00:23:48,041 --> 00:23:49,750
And when you've spent
all this time
541
00:23:49,834 --> 00:23:51,166
and it ends,
542
00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:53,834
it'd be really hard
not to become depressed.
543
00:23:55,375 --> 00:23:57,875
- Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome Shaun White!
544
00:24:00,375 --> 00:24:03,583
- So many things change
after an Olympics,
545
00:24:03,667 --> 00:24:04,917
and the better you do,
546
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,583
the more famous you become...
547
00:24:06,667 --> 00:24:08,417
- Sasha, let's see that smile!
548
00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,083
- And the more
your life changes.
549
00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:13,959
- Your two-time Olympian
Lolo Jones.
550
00:24:14,041 --> 00:24:16,542
- And look at me. Beauty.
551
00:24:16,625 --> 00:24:20,000
- But even if you become
one of the success stories,
552
00:24:20,083 --> 00:24:21,583
it all comes with a catch.
553
00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:27,959
Because if your whole life
was about building up
554
00:24:28,041 --> 00:24:31,291
to one race, one performance,
555
00:24:31,375 --> 00:24:33,166
or one event,
556
00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:34,417
how does that sustain
557
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:36,750
everything that comes
afterwards?
558
00:24:36,834 --> 00:24:39,458
Sure, you can chase it again.
559
00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:42,500
Just go back to the grind
for another four years.
560
00:24:42,583 --> 00:24:45,458
But ultimately,
that doesn't sustain.
561
00:24:47,208 --> 00:24:50,166
And eventually...
For me, at least...
562
00:24:50,250 --> 00:24:51,667
There was one question
563
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:54,083
that hit me
like a ton of bricks.
564
00:24:58,083 --> 00:25:01,000
Who was I
outside of the swimming pool?
565
00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:06,667
- We are Olympic athletes,
566
00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:08,333
and we're not really sure
567
00:25:08,417 --> 00:25:10,792
if we're anything else.
568
00:25:10,875 --> 00:25:14,041
I think
the die-hard skating fans
569
00:25:14,125 --> 00:25:16,583
or Olympic fans
will always recognize you
570
00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:17,792
if you walk down the street,
571
00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:20,125
you know, even if
it's ten years later,
572
00:25:20,208 --> 00:25:24,417
because you were
such a big part of their life
573
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:27,166
and they're
such passionate Olympic fans,
574
00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:30,625
but I think,
for most of the public,
575
00:25:30,709 --> 00:25:32,458
you know, they've got
very busy lives.
576
00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:33,935
They, like, tune in,
they're excited,
577
00:25:33,959 --> 00:25:37,625
they cheer, and then
they kind of forget, you know?
578
00:25:37,709 --> 00:25:41,208
I'd say one Olympic cycle
out from your Olympics,
579
00:25:41,291 --> 00:25:45,375
you're pretty far removed.
580
00:25:48,125 --> 00:25:50,041
- I don't think a lot
of athletes understand
581
00:25:50,125 --> 00:25:53,417
that there's always
a whole line of people
582
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,875
waiting to be the next one.
583
00:25:55,959 --> 00:25:57,893
You know, at the time, they
think they're irreplaceable,
584
00:25:57,917 --> 00:25:59,458
that they're
breaking records, they're,
585
00:25:59,542 --> 00:26:00,601
you know, making all the money,
586
00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:02,166
they're getting praise
from everybody,
587
00:26:02,250 --> 00:26:04,667
and then when they retire,
they expect it to really be
588
00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:06,000
like the sport misses them
589
00:26:06,083 --> 00:26:08,375
and like, "Oh, man,
like, there they go,"
590
00:26:08,458 --> 00:26:10,375
and in reality,
it's like, "Bye,"
591
00:26:10,458 --> 00:26:12,375
and then there's, like...
The new dude
592
00:26:12,458 --> 00:26:14,875
basically rolls in.
593
00:26:14,959 --> 00:26:17,834
I think that,
from an ego standpoint,
594
00:26:17,917 --> 00:26:19,417
hurts a lot
of athletes' feelings
595
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,875
and hurts
their emotional stability.
596
00:26:22,959 --> 00:26:25,250
- It's almost like
a conveyor belt of athletes,
597
00:26:25,333 --> 00:26:26,773
that, like, you're doing
really well,
598
00:26:26,834 --> 00:26:28,685
you're doing really well,
they keep you healthy,
599
00:26:28,709 --> 00:26:31,417
but, like, when you're done,
you're off the conveyor belt.
600
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:32,976
Like, that's... they just have
new athletes
601
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,291
from every sport
602
00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:36,083
coming in all the time.
603
00:26:38,834 --> 00:26:40,375
- When you're a younger athlete,
604
00:26:40,458 --> 00:26:41,500
they love you.
605
00:26:41,583 --> 00:26:42,959
You're the new, fresh face.
606
00:26:43,041 --> 00:26:44,208
They want to promote you.
607
00:26:44,291 --> 00:26:45,583
They want to put you out there.
608
00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:47,917
They want everybody
to fall in love with you.
609
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,750
But after you've been
to a few Olympics,
610
00:26:49,834 --> 00:26:51,458
you know, you'll see,
611
00:26:51,542 --> 00:26:52,959
it kind of weans out.
612
00:26:53,041 --> 00:26:56,125
- You are in the business of...
613
00:26:56,208 --> 00:26:59,709
finding the latest
and the greatest athletes,
614
00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:02,291
extracting the best performance
out of them,
615
00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:03,792
and then going back
to the trough
616
00:27:03,875 --> 00:27:05,434
to look for the latest
and greatest athletes
617
00:27:05,458 --> 00:27:08,083
and doing it over again,
time and time again.
618
00:27:08,166 --> 00:27:11,291
- It's so funny, because...
619
00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:12,792
The longer you're here,
620
00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:14,893
you just... you're like,
"Oh, that's my replacement."
621
00:27:14,917 --> 00:27:16,500
"We got Sydney McLaughlin:
622
00:27:16,583 --> 00:27:18,583
"19 years old, marketable.
623
00:27:18,667 --> 00:27:20,041
"Social media's on fire.
624
00:27:20,125 --> 00:27:21,750
"And, Lolo, that's your exit.
625
00:27:21,834 --> 00:27:23,959
Please go right."
626
00:27:24,041 --> 00:27:25,041
Motherfucker.
627
00:27:28,417 --> 00:27:30,917
- Think the system is set up
for high turnover,
628
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,959
one, and two,
the manner in which
629
00:27:35,041 --> 00:27:37,250
the funds and services
are distributed
630
00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:38,834
are incentivized.
631
00:27:38,917 --> 00:27:40,291
- Big drive. Nice.
632
00:27:40,375 --> 00:27:42,333
- So if you're a federation
that can win medals,
633
00:27:42,417 --> 00:27:43,851
you get funding;
if you're not, you get cut,
634
00:27:43,875 --> 00:27:45,792
not just
the federation's funding
635
00:27:45,875 --> 00:27:47,834
but also the salaries
and the coaching,
636
00:27:47,917 --> 00:27:50,166
so it's hard, I think,
for those people, then,
637
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:52,667
to see the athletes
as individuals.
638
00:27:54,083 --> 00:27:55,333
- Oh! Ooh.
639
00:27:56,917 --> 00:27:58,667
- The reality
of funding for athletes
640
00:27:58,750 --> 00:28:01,834
in this country
might surprise you.
641
00:28:01,917 --> 00:28:04,834
Stipends for training
are minimal,
642
00:28:04,917 --> 00:28:07,542
and so most Olympic hopefuls
just try to stay afloat
643
00:28:07,625 --> 00:28:09,500
while chasing their dream.
644
00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:12,542
Like, for every athlete
with a sponsor,
645
00:28:12,625 --> 00:28:15,291
there are hundreds who need
to take a second job
646
00:28:15,375 --> 00:28:17,542
just to make ends meet
while they train.
647
00:28:18,917 --> 00:28:21,834
- I grew up watching
the '96 Atlanta Olympics,
648
00:28:21,917 --> 00:28:24,709
and I've watched
the, you know, gymnastics team,
649
00:28:24,792 --> 00:28:26,352
and you had
the track and field athletes
650
00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:28,166
in all this glory.
651
00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:29,959
They're on every cover
of every magazine,
652
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:31,542
and you're thinking,
653
00:28:31,625 --> 00:28:33,709
"They're financially stable.
They have to be, right?"
654
00:28:33,792 --> 00:28:36,834
And then fast-forward
to my future,
655
00:28:36,917 --> 00:28:38,709
me trying to be
an Olympic athlete,
656
00:28:38,792 --> 00:28:42,041
and I'm living
off of $7,000 a year.
657
00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:44,208
- The whole thought
that going to the Olympics,
658
00:28:44,291 --> 00:28:46,041
and especially if you win
a medal,
659
00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:48,166
sets you up for life
660
00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:51,041
is such horseshit.
661
00:28:51,125 --> 00:28:52,709
- Even if you're in
a marquee sport
662
00:28:52,792 --> 00:28:54,375
and you do so well,
663
00:28:54,458 --> 00:28:56,375
you have a limited window
664
00:28:56,458 --> 00:28:58,583
to capitalize on
665
00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:01,709
and to pay back training bills,
666
00:29:01,792 --> 00:29:04,542
and, you know,
try to earn some money,
667
00:29:04,625 --> 00:29:07,417
but for most athletes,
there's no money.
668
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,041
There's no money at all.
669
00:29:09,125 --> 00:29:10,643
- Let's only talk
about Olympic athletes
670
00:29:10,667 --> 00:29:12,125
from the United States.
671
00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:13,667
How many golds do you have?
672
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:15,476
Because if you're silver,
you're not making money.
673
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:16,601
You're bronze,
you're not making money.
674
00:29:16,625 --> 00:29:17,542
You didn't medal?
675
00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,500
I don't even know
your name, pal.
676
00:29:19,583 --> 00:29:21,583
Go back to the end
of the line, okay?
677
00:29:21,667 --> 00:29:23,250
Out of the gold medals,
678
00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:25,917
how many of those are actually
being concentrated on
679
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,267
by corporate America to be hired
680
00:29:27,291 --> 00:29:29,208
by speaking engagements
or sponsorships?
681
00:29:29,291 --> 00:29:31,417
You got such a small amount
of people
682
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,583
who are actually making money,
683
00:29:33,667 --> 00:29:35,875
and that moneymaking opportunity
684
00:29:35,959 --> 00:29:37,417
has a life cycle...
685
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:39,458
Lettuce, tomato,
jalapeño peppers.
686
00:29:39,542 --> 00:29:40,583
You gotta try it.
687
00:29:40,667 --> 00:29:42,542
I would say on average,
688
00:29:42,625 --> 00:29:44,375
unless your family
is funding you
689
00:29:44,458 --> 00:29:45,792
throughout this process,
690
00:29:45,875 --> 00:29:47,917
which many do,
691
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,041
you are in debt
every single year you compete,
692
00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:53,667
even with the amount
that you make.
693
00:29:55,667 --> 00:29:57,667
- I'm in huge debt.
694
00:29:57,750 --> 00:30:00,125
In the last quad,
I had to fund myself.
695
00:30:00,208 --> 00:30:01,625
I had a small stipend,
696
00:30:01,709 --> 00:30:03,083
but it's not sufficient.
697
00:30:03,166 --> 00:30:05,125
Like, $750 a month,
698
00:30:05,208 --> 00:30:06,750
$1,250 a month.
699
00:30:06,834 --> 00:30:09,625
- I've had years
where I can make a killing,
700
00:30:09,709 --> 00:30:12,333
and then I've had years
where... I mean, bobsled,
701
00:30:12,417 --> 00:30:15,250
my check was $725
for the whole season.
702
00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:16,834
Tell me how I live off of that.
703
00:30:18,208 --> 00:30:19,375
As an Olympic athlete,
704
00:30:19,458 --> 00:30:22,000
so I've been a hostess
at a restaurant.
705
00:30:22,083 --> 00:30:24,458
I was... I worked at Home Depot.
706
00:30:24,542 --> 00:30:25,601
I think it was the most shocking
707
00:30:25,625 --> 00:30:27,375
when I was working at the gym
708
00:30:27,458 --> 00:30:30,792
and I was making smoothies
for people
709
00:30:30,875 --> 00:30:35,125
and my track race played...
710
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,968
and I'm literally
making somebody a smoothie,
711
00:30:37,041 --> 00:30:40,500
and they're like, "Is that you?
Like, why are..."
712
00:30:40,583 --> 00:30:41,834
They couldn't get it.
713
00:30:41,917 --> 00:30:43,000
Like, do you see, like,
714
00:30:43,083 --> 00:30:44,959
any football player go compete
715
00:30:45,041 --> 00:30:46,500
and then they're
making smoothies
716
00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:48,875
for people at a gym
for $7 an hour?
717
00:30:53,125 --> 00:30:55,000
- I'll say I've been
extremely fortunate
718
00:30:55,083 --> 00:30:56,667
to have a lot of support,
719
00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:58,000
have a lot of sponsors.
720
00:30:58,083 --> 00:31:00,333
If you're on the national team
for swimming,
721
00:31:00,417 --> 00:31:02,917
you get $1,700 a month.
722
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,667
That's supposed to get you
through...
723
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:11,667
training expenses, so travel,
living expenses,
724
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:15,667
eating, car... all of the stuff.
725
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:16,834
It's hard.
726
00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:19,375
I mean, if that's
the only thing that you have,
727
00:31:19,458 --> 00:31:22,250
it's almost impossible.
728
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,083
- For me, I think I was
most scared after this year
729
00:31:27,166 --> 00:31:28,750
and I didn't make the team
730
00:31:28,834 --> 00:31:31,000
and literally got an email
731
00:31:31,083 --> 00:31:34,834
saying my health insurance
was gonna be cut a month later,
732
00:31:34,917 --> 00:31:37,250
and I was like,
"Are you kidding me?"
733
00:31:38,917 --> 00:31:41,583
- When your financial security
is so closely linked
734
00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:43,542
to your success,
735
00:31:43,625 --> 00:31:47,375
the pressure to perform adds up.
736
00:31:47,458 --> 00:31:48,875
That pressure
is just something else
737
00:31:48,959 --> 00:31:52,250
that can take a toll
on your mental health.
738
00:31:52,333 --> 00:31:54,208
- USA bobsled
and the U.S. Olympic Committee
739
00:31:54,291 --> 00:31:55,411
came to me, and it was like,
740
00:31:55,458 --> 00:31:57,166
"Hey, look, you've
never actually won
741
00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,083
"any sort of medal
in bobsledding yet.
742
00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:01,417
"You're USA-1;
you're our top driver
743
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,375
"going into this next season.
744
00:32:03,458 --> 00:32:04,685
"We really need you to do well.
745
00:32:04,709 --> 00:32:06,750
If not, like,
we just can't support you."
746
00:32:06,834 --> 00:32:09,625
All of a sudden now
the entire weight of...
747
00:32:09,709 --> 00:32:11,583
the program is on my shoulders.
748
00:32:11,667 --> 00:32:14,166
I'd better do well.
749
00:32:14,875 --> 00:32:17,083
- Katie Uhlaender
from the United States,
750
00:32:17,166 --> 00:32:18,750
24 years old,
751
00:32:18,834 --> 00:32:20,917
out of Breckenridge,
Colorado, the two-time...
752
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,709
- 2008, when my father
was diagnosed with cancer
753
00:32:23,792 --> 00:32:25,583
and I went on tour...
754
00:32:25,667 --> 00:32:27,417
Which for skeleton,
when we go on tour,
755
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:28,500
it's six months.
756
00:32:28,542 --> 00:32:31,917
You are on the road
from October until April.
757
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,750
My dad understood,
and he told me to go compete
758
00:32:34,834 --> 00:32:36,375
while he was sick.
759
00:32:36,458 --> 00:32:38,625
But I got these emails
from my mom
760
00:32:38,709 --> 00:32:39,917
saying he was not doing well;
761
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,291
like, I needed to come home.
762
00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:46,333
I, like, turned to my coach
every time, and I said,
763
00:32:46,417 --> 00:32:49,792
"I think I might need
to go home,"
764
00:32:49,875 --> 00:32:52,291
and he said, "We can't."
765
00:32:52,375 --> 00:32:53,458
And I said, "Why?"
766
00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:56,000
And he goes, "'Cause you're
the only one we have.
767
00:32:56,083 --> 00:32:58,291
We need you to make...
To get medals."
768
00:32:58,375 --> 00:32:59,667
- Here she comes,
769
00:32:59,750 --> 00:33:01,959
rocketing into 12th.
770
00:33:02,041 --> 00:33:03,083
- So the first time,
771
00:33:03,166 --> 00:33:05,583
I kind of, like, didn't respond,
772
00:33:05,667 --> 00:33:07,083
but then when I got
the second email
773
00:33:07,166 --> 00:33:09,792
from my mom saying
he wasn't gonna make it...
774
00:33:09,875 --> 00:33:12,959
I asked again.
775
00:33:18,750 --> 00:33:20,500
And he gave me the same answer.
776
00:33:25,083 --> 00:33:28,667
And... it's really difficult
in that situation,
777
00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:30,667
'cause I love the sport,
my father understood,
778
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:32,709
but I wanted to go home,
779
00:33:32,792 --> 00:33:34,709
and it was just becoming
so difficult
780
00:33:34,792 --> 00:33:36,583
to try to convince myself
and them
781
00:33:36,667 --> 00:33:38,208
that I wanted to go,
782
00:33:38,291 --> 00:33:44,000
but... when he... he did pass away
while I was competing,
783
00:33:44,083 --> 00:33:46,500
and...
784
00:33:46,583 --> 00:33:49,250
I don't think
that I ever got over that.
785
00:33:54,458 --> 00:33:55,959
- In my case,
786
00:33:56,041 --> 00:33:57,375
there were a lot
of warning signs
787
00:33:57,458 --> 00:33:59,218
that I couldn't handle
the changes in my life
788
00:33:59,250 --> 00:34:01,500
after my success
at the Olympics.
789
00:34:02,875 --> 00:34:05,333
I definitely made
some bad decisions.
790
00:34:05,417 --> 00:34:07,667
- Just a few months
after winning Olympic gold,
791
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:10,208
Michael Phelps was busted
for drunk driving.
792
00:34:13,291 --> 00:34:16,875
- And then rock bottom came
in 2014,
793
00:34:16,959 --> 00:34:19,542
and that put everything
that had come before
794
00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:21,208
into perspective.
795
00:34:24,125 --> 00:34:25,875
- 56th Street?
- Affirmative, 56th.
796
00:34:25,959 --> 00:34:27,583
- Michael Phelps,
797
00:34:27,667 --> 00:34:30,333
the most decorated Olympian
of all time,
798
00:34:30,417 --> 00:34:34,375
has been arrested again for DUI.
799
00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:39,875
- I get pulled over,
go home that night.
800
00:34:39,959 --> 00:34:43,166
I mean, I'm just a wreck,
a wreck.
801
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:45,709
Just sitting there in that room,
802
00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:47,917
didn't leave,
803
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,750
didn't drink water,
didn't drink anything,
804
00:34:49,834 --> 00:34:51,250
didn't eat anything,
805
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:53,250
just sat in my room,
basically, curled up,
806
00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:55,291
and cried.
807
00:34:58,208 --> 00:35:01,083
I was like, "Well, this is
everything coming to an end
808
00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:02,583
in front of my eyes."
809
00:35:04,834 --> 00:35:05,893
And that's
where I was just like,
810
00:35:05,917 --> 00:35:07,291
"Why don't I just end it all?"
811
00:35:15,333 --> 00:35:17,417
In the end, I was fortunate
812
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:19,250
to have some great people
around me
813
00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:22,458
and the resources
to get real help.
814
00:35:22,542 --> 00:35:24,959
I checked in
to a treatment center,
815
00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:26,250
turned my cell phone off,
816
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:29,291
and spent the next 45 days
rebuilding myself
817
00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:30,667
from the ground up.
818
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,458
And then when I came back
819
00:35:35,542 --> 00:35:38,333
and found myself
in a much better place,
820
00:35:38,417 --> 00:35:41,625
there was
this other realization, too,
821
00:35:41,709 --> 00:35:44,291
that I wasn't the only Olympian
822
00:35:44,375 --> 00:35:46,166
who felt the way I did.
823
00:35:47,875 --> 00:35:50,458
- Post-2008,
I was so broken-down
824
00:35:50,542 --> 00:35:52,125
that I would be driving
in my car
825
00:35:52,208 --> 00:35:54,959
and I would just be like,
"I just hope a truck hits me.
826
00:35:55,041 --> 00:35:57,542
"I just hope, like, a truck
hits me and wipes me out
827
00:35:57,625 --> 00:36:00,125
and they don't get hurt
but I do, like, that I'm done."
828
00:36:00,208 --> 00:36:02,792
I just would want to be gone.
829
00:36:02,875 --> 00:36:04,709
I would fight suicidal thoughts.
830
00:36:04,792 --> 00:36:06,500
I would fight sitting in my car,
831
00:36:06,583 --> 00:36:10,000
just closing the garage doors
with the car on.
832
00:36:10,083 --> 00:36:12,375
- Depression is... once it
kind of starts going,
833
00:36:12,458 --> 00:36:13,834
it just puts you into a spiral,
834
00:36:13,917 --> 00:36:16,417
and you just start getting
deeper and deeper into it
835
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,166
and just end up
doing crazy things.
836
00:36:23,583 --> 00:36:27,500
- I was like, "Why?
What's the point, man?
837
00:36:27,583 --> 00:36:29,226
"What's the point of going
to the Olympic Games,
838
00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:31,333
"what's the point of sacrificing
839
00:36:31,417 --> 00:36:33,166
"and training all of these hours
840
00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:36,792
if this is what I have
to show for it?"
841
00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:39,166
That point, I remember, like,
842
00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:41,834
how do I just make this
painless, quick,
843
00:36:41,917 --> 00:36:43,500
and end my life?
844
00:36:45,792 --> 00:36:48,000
Came to a couple
different plans,
845
00:36:48,083 --> 00:36:50,250
and I don't think I ever got
to the point
846
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:54,917
where I felt confident enough
847
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000
to act out a suicide, but...
848
00:36:57,083 --> 00:37:00,709
Like, hanging myself? No.
849
00:37:00,792 --> 00:37:01,917
Shooting myself?
850
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,667
No idea how to get a gun.
851
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:07,041
And my best option
was driving so fast,
852
00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:09,375
smoking myself
on a telephone pole.
853
00:37:09,458 --> 00:37:10,542
I won't feel a thing.
854
00:37:10,625 --> 00:37:13,083
But it's gonna be easier
for me to be done
855
00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:14,750
with this life.
856
00:37:16,959 --> 00:37:19,583
- May 2017 is when
857
00:37:19,667 --> 00:37:24,333
I really started thinking
about, like, ending my life
858
00:37:24,417 --> 00:37:28,375
because it was
almost unbearable.
859
00:37:30,125 --> 00:37:32,375
I had a good day
if I got out of bed
860
00:37:32,458 --> 00:37:35,750
before 11:00 or noon,
861
00:37:35,834 --> 00:37:36,976
I wash my face, I brush my hair,
862
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,291
I brush my teeth,
863
00:37:38,375 --> 00:37:41,583
and, like, I left my apartment.
864
00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:43,875
I was like, "I don't know
what's on the other side,
865
00:37:43,959 --> 00:37:46,417
"but I think that that
would probably be better
866
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:49,208
than whatever I'm living
right now."
867
00:37:51,125 --> 00:37:53,083
The only reason
I didn't kill myself
868
00:37:53,166 --> 00:37:55,250
is because
my twin sister, Carly.
869
00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:59,166
There's no way that I would
just leave her like that.
870
00:37:59,250 --> 00:38:01,083
I was stuck in that weird place
871
00:38:01,166 --> 00:38:04,250
between not necessarily
wanting to die
872
00:38:04,333 --> 00:38:07,041
but, like, I couldn't go on
as I was going
873
00:38:07,125 --> 00:38:09,375
because I really just wanted
to live again
874
00:38:09,458 --> 00:38:11,083
and, like, feel good things
875
00:38:11,166 --> 00:38:12,351
and, like, see the world again
876
00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:15,000
and, like, be involved
in my life.
877
00:38:15,083 --> 00:38:17,792
It was like my life
was a snow globe
878
00:38:17,875 --> 00:38:19,333
and I could look in
and I could see
879
00:38:19,417 --> 00:38:20,959
everything that was happening
880
00:38:21,041 --> 00:38:23,000
but I couldn't be involved
in it.
881
00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:25,625
There's just, like, this wall
separating me
882
00:38:25,709 --> 00:38:27,417
from the rest of the world.
883
00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:32,458
- I went downstairs.
884
00:38:32,542 --> 00:38:34,184
I just decided,
"You know what? This is time.
885
00:38:34,208 --> 00:38:36,458
I have an opportunity here."
886
00:38:36,542 --> 00:38:39,959
That's kind of the last thing
I remember.
887
00:38:40,041 --> 00:38:41,518
What makes it scary is...
After the fact
888
00:38:41,542 --> 00:38:43,250
is, you don't realize
all the people
889
00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:46,000
that would've been crushed
and devastated.
890
00:38:49,583 --> 00:38:51,625
I didn't tell anybody.
891
00:38:51,709 --> 00:38:55,166
In fact, even after I won
the gold medal in Vancouver,
892
00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:57,333
I still didn't tell anybody...
Nobody.
893
00:38:57,417 --> 00:39:01,000
That was a moment
between... me and God
894
00:39:01,083 --> 00:39:04,041
or, you know, just me
and the bedroom,
895
00:39:04,125 --> 00:39:05,333
and that was it.
896
00:39:05,417 --> 00:39:06,542
There was...
897
00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:09,959
Nobody else would get to know
or find out, ever.
898
00:39:10,041 --> 00:39:11,667
And it wasn't
till I wrote my book
899
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:15,834
that I decided
people need to know.
900
00:39:15,917 --> 00:39:19,333
And actually...
901
00:39:19,417 --> 00:39:22,375
One of the big motivations was,
902
00:39:22,458 --> 00:39:25,166
close friend of mine,
an athlete,
903
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:27,875
Jeret Peterson, killed himself
904
00:39:27,959 --> 00:39:29,351
about the time I was writing
my book,
905
00:39:29,375 --> 00:39:31,709
and that's what triggered...
It was kind of like,
906
00:39:31,792 --> 00:39:33,351
this is a big... this is
like an epidemic.
907
00:39:33,375 --> 00:39:35,166
It's... not just him.
908
00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:36,393
There's a lot of people
out there
909
00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:38,834
that are suffering through this.
910
00:39:40,125 --> 00:39:42,333
- I grew up with Speedy.
911
00:39:42,417 --> 00:39:43,476
Of course, he was
on the aerials team.
912
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:44,750
I was on the moguls team.
913
00:39:44,834 --> 00:39:46,709
And we were the young guys
on the team.
914
00:39:46,792 --> 00:39:49,542
I looked at him
like a carefree kid
915
00:39:49,625 --> 00:39:51,542
that had so much fun.
916
00:39:51,625 --> 00:39:53,875
He was always smiling.
He was always happy.
917
00:39:53,959 --> 00:39:55,917
- And, Speedy, how did you
get that nickname?
918
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
- That nickname started
when I was 11 years old
919
00:39:58,083 --> 00:39:59,243
when I went to my first camp.
920
00:39:59,291 --> 00:40:00,583
I had a checkered life jacket
921
00:40:00,667 --> 00:40:01,709
and a big racing helmet
922
00:40:01,792 --> 00:40:02,893
that I borrowed from my uncle...
923
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:04,834
- Oh, okay.
- And didn't really grasp
924
00:40:04,917 --> 00:40:06,208
the concept of waiting in line,
925
00:40:06,291 --> 00:40:07,976
and so I'd cut in front
of all the other campers
926
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,166
and get five jumps
in the time they got two.
927
00:40:10,250 --> 00:40:11,709
- Okay, so it wasn't
a girlfriend.
928
00:40:11,792 --> 00:40:13,208
- No, no, luckily.
929
00:40:13,291 --> 00:40:15,875
She'd probably be
an ex-girlfriend.
930
00:40:15,959 --> 00:40:19,375
- It wasn't until 2009,
931
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:20,750
when we were in Lake Placid
932
00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:23,959
at the Olympic Training Center
for a World Cup,
933
00:40:24,041 --> 00:40:26,101
and he said, "Hey, can I chat
with you for a second?"
934
00:40:26,125 --> 00:40:27,583
And I said "Sure."
935
00:40:27,667 --> 00:40:29,917
And we went to the TV room...
It was night;
936
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,208
it was dark;
there's no one around...
937
00:40:32,291 --> 00:40:33,458
And he said,
938
00:40:33,542 --> 00:40:35,309
"You know, I want to open up
to you for a second."
939
00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:38,291
And I said,
"Sure, what's on your mind?"
940
00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:41,625
He started crying, and he said,
941
00:40:41,709 --> 00:40:44,083
"Most days, I don't want
to be alive."
942
00:40:44,166 --> 00:40:46,583
And I didn't know anything
about mental health
943
00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:48,333
at that point.
944
00:40:48,417 --> 00:40:49,625
I was so off-guard
945
00:40:49,709 --> 00:40:51,542
because I think of Speedy
as somebody
946
00:40:51,625 --> 00:40:53,083
who's always been so happy
947
00:40:53,166 --> 00:40:54,583
and so successful,
948
00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:55,768
and I didn't know how to react,
949
00:40:55,792 --> 00:40:57,917
and I just said,
"Speedy, look at you.
950
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,917
"You're so
incredibly successful.
951
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,709
"You're a good-looking kid.
952
00:41:01,792 --> 00:41:03,417
"You have the wind
behind your sails.
953
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,417
Like, you know,
what's going on?"
954
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:07,500
And, you know, he just
really opened up to me,
955
00:41:07,583 --> 00:41:11,709
and I often think
about that moment.
956
00:41:11,792 --> 00:41:13,834
I wish I could go back
to it now,
957
00:41:13,917 --> 00:41:16,000
because I think
I would've handled it
958
00:41:16,083 --> 00:41:17,917
a lot differently than I did.
959
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,500
- He was horribly depressed.
960
00:41:24,583 --> 00:41:28,333
When he was young,
he was sexually abused.
961
00:41:28,417 --> 00:41:30,875
His roommate took his life
with a gun,
962
00:41:30,959 --> 00:41:33,333
and Jeret was witness
to that whole thing,
963
00:41:33,417 --> 00:41:38,959
and from there on,
life was never the same.
964
00:41:39,041 --> 00:41:42,333
And that was six months
before the Torino Olympics.
965
00:41:42,417 --> 00:41:44,166
I didn't want him to go.
966
00:41:44,250 --> 00:41:46,917
I begged him not to go,
but he insisted.
967
00:41:48,125 --> 00:41:49,792
He was beside himself.
968
00:41:49,875 --> 00:41:52,667
He didn't know
where to go, who to turn to.
969
00:41:52,750 --> 00:41:54,667
He lost his identity.
970
00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:56,834
He told me that he didn't think
971
00:41:56,917 --> 00:42:00,291
he was gonna be able
to hang on for very long
972
00:42:00,375 --> 00:42:03,709
and to not be surprised.
973
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,917
- You fall to your knees,
974
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,000
and your heart just... shatters.
975
00:42:35,458 --> 00:42:40,041
I'm not angry at him
for what he did.
976
00:42:40,125 --> 00:42:43,208
The pain becomes insurmountable,
977
00:42:43,291 --> 00:42:45,375
and the pain that he was having,
978
00:42:45,458 --> 00:42:48,208
I know, 'cause I saw it.
979
00:42:48,291 --> 00:42:51,041
Your spirit is crushed,
980
00:42:51,125 --> 00:42:55,083
and it truly was unbearable
with him.
981
00:42:56,834 --> 00:42:58,709
- I couldn't help but feel
982
00:42:58,792 --> 00:43:00,500
a little bit responsible.
983
00:43:00,583 --> 00:43:03,375
I couldn't help but feel like,
you know,
984
00:43:03,458 --> 00:43:04,810
"What could I have done
differently?
985
00:43:04,834 --> 00:43:07,083
"Who could I have talked to?
986
00:43:07,166 --> 00:43:11,291
You know, is there something
I could've done more?"
987
00:43:11,375 --> 00:43:13,000
That's something
I struggle with.
988
00:43:19,625 --> 00:43:21,333
- You might be listening
to all of us talk
989
00:43:21,417 --> 00:43:23,583
about our struggles and wonder,
990
00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:25,625
"Why don't you just get help?"
991
00:43:27,583 --> 00:43:30,125
Well, there are
a lot of reasons,
992
00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:32,792
and probably the biggest
is connected to what got us
993
00:43:32,875 --> 00:43:35,583
to the top in the first place:
994
00:43:35,667 --> 00:43:38,917
our conviction that we
can make ourselves unbeatable
995
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,250
if we just work at it,
996
00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:44,792
our belief that there's no way
we should ever need help...
997
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:48,834
Our fear that we'll become weak
998
00:43:48,917 --> 00:43:50,750
if we show any vulnerability.
999
00:43:53,041 --> 00:43:55,333
The stigma of having
mental health problems
1000
00:43:55,417 --> 00:43:58,458
is a huge issue
all across society,
1001
00:43:58,542 --> 00:44:01,000
how tough the issues are
to talk about
1002
00:44:01,083 --> 00:44:04,166
or even just acknowledge.
1003
00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:05,709
And Olympians
are definitely a group
1004
00:44:05,792 --> 00:44:09,500
who want to keep their pain
out of sight.
1005
00:44:09,583 --> 00:44:11,125
- It's very, very simple.
1006
00:44:11,208 --> 00:44:12,333
Athletes...
1007
00:44:12,417 --> 00:44:15,125
most likely
don't get help for...
1008
00:44:15,208 --> 00:44:17,834
depression
1009
00:44:17,917 --> 00:44:21,417
or, you know,
mental health issues
1010
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:24,458
because they can't even admit
that it's an issue.
1011
00:44:24,542 --> 00:44:26,458
That is so fundamentally at odds
1012
00:44:26,542 --> 00:44:28,667
with being a competitor.
1013
00:44:28,750 --> 00:44:32,500
This is war.
It's a game of strategy.
1014
00:44:32,583 --> 00:44:36,166
It's a game of maneuvering
and posturing.
1015
00:44:36,250 --> 00:44:39,500
You need to show the world
that you are strong.
1016
00:44:39,583 --> 00:44:41,041
You need to show
all your competitors
1017
00:44:41,125 --> 00:44:42,959
that you are strong.
1018
00:44:43,041 --> 00:44:45,875
And so if you were to say, like,
1019
00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:47,039
"Oh, I have mental issues,"
1020
00:44:47,083 --> 00:44:49,750
like, that just cracks
1021
00:44:49,834 --> 00:44:52,542
the façade of trying
to show the world
1022
00:44:52,625 --> 00:44:54,959
that you're impervious.
1023
00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:57,559
- I was worried that people
would see me
1024
00:44:57,583 --> 00:44:59,000
as this fragile person,
1025
00:44:59,083 --> 00:45:00,351
somebody they didn't want around
1026
00:45:00,375 --> 00:45:01,768
or, like, "Hey, you can't rely
on Holcomb,
1027
00:45:01,792 --> 00:45:03,017
"'cause who knows
what he's gonna think?
1028
00:45:03,041 --> 00:45:04,667
He's thinking crazy stuff,"
1029
00:45:04,750 --> 00:45:06,059
or, you know,
"He's mentally not fit
1030
00:45:06,083 --> 00:45:08,333
to be"... whatever.
1031
00:45:08,417 --> 00:45:10,097
You know, you don't want
the stigma of that
1032
00:45:10,125 --> 00:45:11,375
going around.
1033
00:45:11,458 --> 00:45:12,578
And so I didn't... I just...
1034
00:45:12,625 --> 00:45:14,750
I didn't tell anybody;
I kept that to myself.
1035
00:45:16,792 --> 00:45:19,208
- Athletes just don't talk
about our weaknesses.
1036
00:45:19,291 --> 00:45:20,875
We're tough.
1037
00:45:20,959 --> 00:45:23,333
We will hide anything from...
And especially if it's
1038
00:45:23,417 --> 00:45:24,417
a team environment,
1039
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:26,875
'cause you don't want to let
someone know
1040
00:45:26,959 --> 00:45:28,917
what you're kind of
going through.
1041
00:45:30,625 --> 00:45:33,250
- The biggest thing
that I struggled with
1042
00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:35,333
is that from the outside,
1043
00:45:35,417 --> 00:45:37,250
it's like, "You got everything.
1044
00:45:37,333 --> 00:45:41,250
Why aren't you happy
all the time, 24-7?"
1045
00:45:41,333 --> 00:45:43,166
- So if I had, like,
blown out my knee,
1046
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:44,709
I know for a fact I would've had
1047
00:45:44,792 --> 00:45:46,458
the top physical therapist,
1048
00:45:46,542 --> 00:45:48,375
the top surgeon, orthopedic,
1049
00:45:48,458 --> 00:45:51,750
like, absolutely whatever
I needed fixing my knee.
1050
00:45:51,834 --> 00:45:53,917
And I know that if I...
1051
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,291
'Cause I mentioned, like,
one time before to someone
1052
00:45:56,375 --> 00:45:58,125
in the federation, like,
1053
00:45:58,208 --> 00:45:59,601
"I'm actually really
going through some, like,
1054
00:45:59,625 --> 00:46:02,291
"really dark shit right now,
1055
00:46:02,375 --> 00:46:04,625
and it's really interfering."
1056
00:46:04,709 --> 00:46:05,976
They said, "Oh, well,
you could, like, look up
1057
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,041
a therapist in your area."
1058
00:46:08,125 --> 00:46:10,417
Being an Olympian is advertised
1059
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:12,291
as this amazing thing,
1060
00:46:12,375 --> 00:46:16,542
and they leave out
all of the side effects.
1061
00:46:16,625 --> 00:46:19,291
So let's say that you make it
to the Olympics.
1062
00:46:19,375 --> 00:46:21,625
Some side effects may include
an eating disorder,
1063
00:46:21,709 --> 00:46:22,792
depression,
1064
00:46:22,875 --> 00:46:25,917
anxiety, suicidal ideation,
1065
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,750
almost, like, a disconnect
from the real world,
1066
00:46:28,834 --> 00:46:31,291
and then when all those
side effects do happen,
1067
00:46:31,375 --> 00:46:32,792
there's nothing in play
1068
00:46:32,875 --> 00:46:36,083
to, like, help you with those.
1069
00:46:36,166 --> 00:46:37,351
They kind of advertise
this, like,
1070
00:46:37,375 --> 00:46:39,834
"keeping our athletes healthy
and happy,"
1071
00:46:39,917 --> 00:46:42,667
and, like, they really
only deliver physically.
1072
00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:44,417
Everything else
is just kind of like,
1073
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:46,166
"Oh, not our problem."
1074
00:46:48,291 --> 00:46:49,917
- I think
I can honestly say now,
1075
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,291
sort of looking back
throughout my career,
1076
00:46:52,375 --> 00:46:54,458
I don't think
anybody really cared
1077
00:46:54,542 --> 00:46:56,417
to help us.
1078
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:58,125
I don't think anybody
really jumped in
1079
00:46:58,208 --> 00:47:01,125
to ask us if we were okay.
1080
00:47:01,208 --> 00:47:02,458
As long as we were performing,
1081
00:47:02,542 --> 00:47:06,333
I don't think
anything else really mattered.
1082
00:47:06,417 --> 00:47:08,291
It's pretty unfortunate to say,
1083
00:47:08,375 --> 00:47:09,834
pretty sad to say.
1084
00:47:12,792 --> 00:47:14,500
- I think the last thing
on my mind
1085
00:47:14,583 --> 00:47:15,726
was, like, "How can USA Diving
1086
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:17,208
"and how can
the Olympic Committee
1087
00:47:17,291 --> 00:47:18,291
help me with this?"
1088
00:47:18,375 --> 00:47:20,709
They can help me
with my mental preparation
1089
00:47:20,792 --> 00:47:22,542
and they've done
a phenomenal job
1090
00:47:22,625 --> 00:47:26,834
of, how do I mentally
stay strong in my sport?
1091
00:47:26,917 --> 00:47:29,083
But not once
have I gotten wisdom:
1092
00:47:29,166 --> 00:47:32,208
how does David stay strong
outside of my sport?
1093
00:47:32,291 --> 00:47:37,208
- The problem is,
without fully understanding
1094
00:47:37,291 --> 00:47:38,500
who should be helping us,
1095
00:47:38,583 --> 00:47:40,709
it's hard to seek out
the right person,
1096
00:47:40,792 --> 00:47:42,166
'cause it seems
like psychologists
1097
00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:43,166
and sports psychologists,
1098
00:47:43,250 --> 00:47:45,375
like, everyone wants to work
with an Olympian
1099
00:47:45,458 --> 00:47:48,625
and have... you know, claim
credit for your performance,
1100
00:47:48,709 --> 00:47:51,500
but when it comes
to serious family issues
1101
00:47:51,583 --> 00:47:54,041
or mental health issues,
1102
00:47:54,125 --> 00:47:57,542
it's almost nonexistent.
1103
00:47:57,625 --> 00:47:59,226
- I'm just really frustrated
with the system,
1104
00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:03,375
and I think as I am more
on the tail end of my career,
1105
00:48:03,458 --> 00:48:05,875
that's where
it really becomes apparent.
1106
00:48:10,959 --> 00:48:12,000
- This is it.
1107
00:48:12,083 --> 00:48:13,000
I've said it before,
1108
00:48:13,083 --> 00:48:14,208
but you guys can say it.
1109
00:48:14,291 --> 00:48:16,417
This is the last time.
1110
00:48:17,667 --> 00:48:19,709
No matter how your career goes
1111
00:48:19,792 --> 00:48:21,417
or how long it lasts,
1112
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:22,875
there's one inevitable end
1113
00:48:22,959 --> 00:48:24,542
we all have in common:
1114
00:48:24,625 --> 00:48:27,041
retirement.
1115
00:48:27,125 --> 00:48:29,375
It's not really natural
to retire
1116
00:48:29,458 --> 00:48:31,709
when you're in your 20s or 30s,
1117
00:48:31,792 --> 00:48:33,072
and when you've devoted
your life
1118
00:48:33,125 --> 00:48:35,500
to a pursuit
of such a singular goal
1119
00:48:35,583 --> 00:48:37,542
and then leave it all behind,
1120
00:48:37,625 --> 00:48:39,583
there's that giant question:
1121
00:48:39,667 --> 00:48:41,917
now what?
1122
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,709
And even bigger:
1123
00:48:43,792 --> 00:48:45,750
who am I?
1124
00:48:45,834 --> 00:48:47,417
And the truth is,
1125
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:49,709
there aren't tons of programs
in place
1126
00:48:49,792 --> 00:48:51,750
to help athletes
handle the emotions
1127
00:48:51,834 --> 00:48:53,959
of that transition.
1128
00:48:54,041 --> 00:48:57,166
- What is available to retired
Olympic athletes post-career?
1129
00:48:57,250 --> 00:48:59,125
I don't think there's anything.
1130
00:48:59,208 --> 00:49:02,041
If you're talking
about third-party resources
1131
00:49:02,125 --> 00:49:04,125
that I'm aware of,
I don't think there's any.
1132
00:49:04,208 --> 00:49:05,834
There's none that I've used.
1133
00:49:05,917 --> 00:49:08,041
There's actually zero
that I have used
1134
00:49:08,125 --> 00:49:10,458
in 9 1/2 years
I've been retired.
1135
00:49:10,542 --> 00:49:13,125
There's no pension.
There's no bonus.
1136
00:49:13,208 --> 00:49:16,250
There's no stock option.
1137
00:49:16,333 --> 00:49:20,125
There's no job opportunity.
1138
00:49:20,208 --> 00:49:21,125
There's no more coach.
1139
00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:22,309
There's no more
training environment.
1140
00:49:22,333 --> 00:49:23,351
There's no more equipment.
1141
00:49:23,375 --> 00:49:24,518
There's no more monthly stipend.
1142
00:49:24,542 --> 00:49:26,792
There's no more prize money.
1143
00:49:26,875 --> 00:49:30,625
Arguably, there's
no more sponsorship.
1144
00:49:30,709 --> 00:49:32,959
Yeah, that's reality.
1145
00:49:35,041 --> 00:49:37,625
- I'm really not aware
of anything that exists
1146
00:49:37,709 --> 00:49:41,125
for retired Olympians,
1147
00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:43,291
but I really feel like the bulk
1148
00:49:43,375 --> 00:49:45,959
of what
the U.S. Olympic Committee does
1149
00:49:46,041 --> 00:49:51,959
is to help fund hopefuls
getting to their dream.
1150
00:49:52,041 --> 00:49:55,625
- I will never regret
competing for Team USA
1151
00:49:55,709 --> 00:49:57,500
and this country,
absolutely not.
1152
00:49:57,583 --> 00:50:00,458
I have helped promote
the Olympic sports
1153
00:50:00,542 --> 00:50:01,834
for three Olympics.
1154
00:50:01,917 --> 00:50:05,166
I've given
my blood, sweat, and tears.
1155
00:50:05,250 --> 00:50:07,166
I've given my talent.
1156
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:10,750
And all I'm asking is that
after it's all said and done,
1157
00:50:10,834 --> 00:50:12,333
someone can help me
1158
00:50:12,417 --> 00:50:14,959
mentally get through this.
1159
00:50:22,250 --> 00:50:24,166
- Losing Speedy Peterson
was a shock
1160
00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:26,667
for the entire
Olympic community,
1161
00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:29,000
but it wasn't
an isolated incident.
1162
00:50:31,083 --> 00:50:33,291
Steven Scherer, a sport shooter
1163
00:50:33,375 --> 00:50:35,667
who represented the U.S.
in Beijing,
1164
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:37,166
had taken his own life
1165
00:50:37,250 --> 00:50:39,709
less than a year
before Speedy's death.
1166
00:50:41,583 --> 00:50:44,625
Kelly Catlin won
a silver medal in 2016
1167
00:50:44,709 --> 00:50:47,375
as a part
of the U.S. cycling team
1168
00:50:47,458 --> 00:50:51,208
and then took her own life
in 2019.
1169
00:50:51,291 --> 00:50:54,000
Later that same year,
Jack Hatton,
1170
00:50:54,083 --> 00:50:55,709
a Team USA judoka,
1171
00:50:55,792 --> 00:50:57,417
took his life as well.
1172
00:50:59,291 --> 00:51:02,250
Nobody was prepared
for any of these tragedies,
1173
00:51:02,333 --> 00:51:04,875
but the news
that maybe hit the hardest
1174
00:51:04,959 --> 00:51:07,041
came in May of 2017.
1175
00:51:10,291 --> 00:51:11,768
- A shock in the world
of sports tonight.
1176
00:51:11,792 --> 00:51:12,709
The Olympic community
1177
00:51:12,792 --> 00:51:14,542
and bobsled fans
around the world
1178
00:51:14,625 --> 00:51:17,000
are mourning the death
of Steven Holcomb.
1179
00:51:17,083 --> 00:51:19,250
The Olympic champion
was found in his room
1180
00:51:19,333 --> 00:51:22,208
at Team USA's training center
in Lake Placid, New York,
1181
00:51:22,291 --> 00:51:23,208
this weekend.
1182
00:51:23,291 --> 00:51:24,709
The cause of his death
1183
00:51:24,792 --> 00:51:26,250
remains unclear.
1184
00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:30,959
- Steven Holcomb
was found in his room
1185
00:51:31,041 --> 00:51:33,542
at the Olympic training
center, unresponsive,
1186
00:51:33,625 --> 00:51:37,083
by his best friend,
Katie Uhlaender.
1187
00:51:37,166 --> 00:51:39,375
Steven was 37 years old.
1188
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,959
- And I don't know
what was worse.
1189
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,083
Finding him...
1190
00:51:54,166 --> 00:51:56,917
two days late,
1191
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,542
you just, like...
1192
00:52:01,333 --> 00:52:03,458
Then realizing, like,
1193
00:52:03,542 --> 00:52:05,101
thinking he was asleep
and then realizing
1194
00:52:05,125 --> 00:52:07,917
there was nothing I could do,
1195
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,625
and then thinking back
to the days
1196
00:52:09,709 --> 00:52:12,166
that I should've broken
into his room sooner.
1197
00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:14,417
How did I not
do something sooner?
1198
00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:19,000
And every time, like,
I would go to text him...
1199
00:52:19,083 --> 00:52:20,458
He's my best friend...
1200
00:52:20,542 --> 00:52:22,625
I would have, like,
a panic attack,
1201
00:52:22,709 --> 00:52:24,149
'cause my mind would go
straight back
1202
00:52:24,208 --> 00:52:27,500
to that moment when I found him,
1203
00:52:27,583 --> 00:52:28,959
and I would realize he was gone,
1204
00:52:29,041 --> 00:52:31,500
and then I would start
to wonder why.
1205
00:52:31,583 --> 00:52:35,458
- What else has to happen
for this to change?
1206
00:52:35,542 --> 00:52:36,834
What else?
1207
00:52:36,917 --> 00:52:40,959
I mean, we see, like...
1208
00:52:44,041 --> 00:52:45,959
Do five other athletes
have to take their lives
1209
00:52:46,041 --> 00:52:47,667
in order to see change?
1210
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:50,208
Like, how far down the road
are we gonna get
1211
00:52:50,291 --> 00:52:52,834
before somebody
actually stands up and says,
1212
00:52:52,917 --> 00:52:56,709
"We have to do something,
and this is important"?
1213
00:52:56,792 --> 00:52:59,166
- I think there's no question
that Olympic athletes need
1214
00:52:59,250 --> 00:53:00,333
more support.
1215
00:53:00,417 --> 00:53:02,834
You know, the solution
to mental health issues
1216
00:53:02,917 --> 00:53:06,000
or really just general support...
1217
00:53:06,083 --> 00:53:08,333
Right now, we're just starting
to understand
1218
00:53:08,417 --> 00:53:10,667
how critical that is.
1219
00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:13,000
- I don't think that they're
maliciously ignoring
1220
00:53:13,083 --> 00:53:14,458
our well-being.
1221
00:53:14,542 --> 00:53:17,125
I just don't know
that if they realize
1222
00:53:17,208 --> 00:53:19,542
it's, like, a full,
like, crisis yet.
1223
00:53:19,625 --> 00:53:22,834
How many more dead Olympians
do they need
1224
00:53:22,917 --> 00:53:24,166
before they realize
1225
00:53:24,250 --> 00:53:27,333
that there might be
an epidemic here?
1226
00:53:27,417 --> 00:53:32,208
- I recently requested help
multiple times,
1227
00:53:32,291 --> 00:53:35,917
and I didn't get it,
and I can't figure out
1228
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,875
if it was because
it would've taken me away
1229
00:53:37,959 --> 00:53:39,709
from competing for them
1230
00:53:39,792 --> 00:53:41,959
or if it was just,
they don't have the resources
1231
00:53:42,041 --> 00:53:45,709
or they don't know,
but regardless,
1232
00:53:45,792 --> 00:53:48,208
if you look at the process
I had to go through,
1233
00:53:48,291 --> 00:53:49,667
I have to tell my coach,
1234
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:50,917
or I have to tell sports med.
1235
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,041
I have to tell
sports performance.
1236
00:53:53,125 --> 00:53:54,768
Then they have to tell, like,
two more people
1237
00:53:54,792 --> 00:53:56,375
over in Colorado Springs,
1238
00:53:56,458 --> 00:53:57,935
and then they have to, like,
go through this thing
1239
00:53:57,959 --> 00:54:00,041
to try to find someone,
determine if it's valid...
1240
00:54:00,125 --> 00:54:01,417
My request for help.
1241
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:02,559
Like, I went
through their process,
1242
00:54:02,583 --> 00:54:05,000
and despite those five
to seven people knowing,
1243
00:54:05,083 --> 00:54:06,583
I didn't get any help.
1244
00:54:08,291 --> 00:54:10,417
- I think a lot of us
could've had a story
1245
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:13,000
that ended
like Steve Holcomb's did,
1246
00:54:13,083 --> 00:54:15,083
because a lot of us struggle
1247
00:54:15,166 --> 00:54:17,542
with so many
of the same feelings.
1248
00:54:17,625 --> 00:54:20,709
And I saw Steve
maybe, like, a week before.
1249
00:54:20,792 --> 00:54:24,750
He just seemed so...
Like everything was fine,
1250
00:54:24,834 --> 00:54:27,417
and, like, I think we all seem
like something's fine
1251
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:30,041
until we get
to that one breaking point
1252
00:54:30,125 --> 00:54:31,500
where either we're
fortunate enough
1253
00:54:31,583 --> 00:54:35,792
for somebody to see us, or...
1254
00:54:35,875 --> 00:54:38,875
we're not lucky and we die.
1255
00:54:42,792 --> 00:54:44,792
- Dealing with
the incredible highs and lows
1256
00:54:44,875 --> 00:54:46,458
of being an Olympian,
1257
00:54:46,542 --> 00:54:49,208
the sacrifices
and the challenges,
1258
00:54:49,291 --> 00:54:50,583
and figuring out a transition
1259
00:54:50,667 --> 00:54:53,208
from such a hyper-focused life...
1260
00:54:53,291 --> 00:54:56,458
All of it can be extremely hard,
1261
00:54:56,542 --> 00:54:59,959
but there is a way forward.
1262
00:55:00,041 --> 00:55:02,959
There are people and places
that can help,
1263
00:55:03,041 --> 00:55:06,166
and there are outcomes
that can be really successful.
1264
00:55:07,875 --> 00:55:09,417
We just have to change
the perception
1265
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,125
that problems with mental health
1266
00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:13,333
are something to hide,
1267
00:55:13,417 --> 00:55:16,333
and in a world where Olympians
are leading the way forward
1268
00:55:16,417 --> 00:55:19,083
to break down that stigma,
1269
00:55:19,166 --> 00:55:21,417
the impact could be massive.
1270
00:55:22,875 --> 00:55:24,917
- Where a better place
to make change
1271
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,417
than on the Olympic stage?
1272
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:31,333
Youth around the world watch
and look up to these people,
1273
00:55:31,417 --> 00:55:33,250
and if we can take a stand
and make change,
1274
00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:35,291
it could affect the world
1275
00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:38,959
in recognizing
what truly matters.
1276
00:55:39,041 --> 00:55:40,393
- It doesn't matter if you're
an Olympic gold medalist
1277
00:55:40,417 --> 00:55:42,500
and you are
the most decorated athlete
1278
00:55:42,583 --> 00:55:44,333
of human history
1279
00:55:44,417 --> 00:55:46,667
or you're someone driving a bus.
1280
00:55:46,750 --> 00:55:49,041
You're prone to depression.
1281
00:55:49,125 --> 00:55:51,208
My faith was how I was able
to handle it
1282
00:55:51,291 --> 00:55:52,834
and still handle it,
1283
00:55:52,917 --> 00:55:55,125
but that's okay
to handle it differently.
1284
00:55:57,417 --> 00:55:59,000
- When stuff
started getting bad,
1285
00:55:59,083 --> 00:56:00,458
if I had just even seen someone,
1286
00:56:00,542 --> 00:56:02,333
like, once or twice a week,
1287
00:56:02,417 --> 00:56:05,333
we probably wouldn't have
ended up where I did.
1288
00:56:05,417 --> 00:56:08,500
- We're human.
1289
00:56:08,583 --> 00:56:10,542
I don't think I have
to say anything else.
1290
00:56:10,625 --> 00:56:13,375
We're human beings,
just like everybody else.
1291
00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:18,667
Yeah, I had won
a shit-ton of medals.
1292
00:56:18,750 --> 00:56:20,709
I had a great career.
1293
00:56:20,792 --> 00:56:24,125
Doesn't matter.
I wasn't happy with who I was.
1294
00:56:24,208 --> 00:56:27,458
I thought of myself
of just a swimmer
1295
00:56:27,542 --> 00:56:30,083
and not a human being,
not a person.
1296
00:56:30,166 --> 00:56:32,500
No self-love,
no self-confidence.
1297
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:37,393
You know, thinking
about committing suicide
1298
00:56:37,417 --> 00:56:38,917
and not being alive anymore,
1299
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,166
you know, I think back
to it now still.
1300
00:56:42,250 --> 00:56:44,041
It's crazy,
what's been able to happen
1301
00:56:44,125 --> 00:56:46,917
and what I've been able
to learn.
1302
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,041
- It's okay to not be okay,
1303
00:56:49,125 --> 00:56:52,333
and it's okay to kind of, like,
talk to people about it.
1304
00:56:53,125 --> 00:56:55,101
You gotta definitely find
the right people in your life
1305
00:56:55,125 --> 00:56:57,333
that you can talk to
about these things.
1306
00:57:06,166 --> 00:57:08,417
- What makes the Olympics
so special
1307
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:12,250
is their power to bring
the world together.
1308
00:57:12,333 --> 00:57:13,792
Like everyone else,
1309
00:57:13,875 --> 00:57:15,417
I can't wait to live in a world
1310
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:18,000
where that's possible again,
1311
00:57:18,083 --> 00:57:20,709
and my hope is,
when that happens,
1312
00:57:20,792 --> 00:57:22,583
the athletes
in the center of it all
1313
00:57:22,667 --> 00:57:25,083
are not just ready to compete
1314
00:57:25,166 --> 00:57:28,083
but also supported
through whatever may come
1315
00:57:28,166 --> 00:57:30,041
once the flame goes out.
1316
00:57:33,667 --> 00:57:36,750
My own mental health
continues to be a challenge
1317
00:57:36,834 --> 00:57:39,250
that I need to address
on a daily basis.
1318
00:57:39,333 --> 00:57:41,291
It's a part of my life
1319
00:57:41,375 --> 00:57:44,750
as much as being a husband
and a father.
1320
00:57:44,834 --> 00:57:48,125
It took me a long time
to be okay with saying that,
1321
00:57:48,208 --> 00:57:50,542
and I'm ready to spend
as much time as I have to
1322
00:57:50,625 --> 00:57:52,000
in the years ahead
1323
00:57:52,083 --> 00:57:56,750
to make sure others know
that there's help out there
1324
00:57:56,834 --> 00:57:59,792
and that it's okay
to not be okay.
1325
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:58,041
This has been a presentation
1326
00:59:58,125 --> 00:59:59,709
of HBO Sports.
1327
00:59:59,733 --> 01:00:02,733
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