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GORDIE: You can just
switch hands rapidly.
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MIKE: I'm learning from the guy
that taught Lone Ranger
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how to smoke 'em.
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JB: Okay, gentlemen,
welcome to Zephyr‐ville.
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Huh?
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GORDIE: Put the barrel
into the holster,
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and then turn it
into the holster.
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ROBBIE: Ha!
Wow!
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This is like pure
jewelry right here.
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MIKE: Oh yeah,
look at that buckle.
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GORDIE: Hi‐ho Silver, away!
MIKE: [laughs]
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JB: A car of this quality
is gonna be close to $200,000.
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MIKE: [laughs]
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GORDIE: He was
a pain in the butt.
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MIKE: [laughs]
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♪
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ROBBIE: I like
warehouse districts.
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MEFFORD: Yeah, we're
real close, aren't we?
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ROBBIE: Yeah, it's
gotta be right up here.
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It's right here.
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MEFFORD: Oh yeah, look at that.
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ROBBIE: Huh...
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Looks like the gate's
locked, dude.
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What's up with that?
[honks horn]
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MEFFORD: God, look
at this place.
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Anybody here?
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ROBBIE: Hello!
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Doesn't look like anybody's
here; place is locked up.
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MEFFORD: Hey, Walker!
ROBBIE: Walker!
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ROBBIE: There you are.
MEFFORD: There he is.
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ROBBIE: You Walker?
WALKER: Hi, yeah, that's me.
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ROBBIE: Dani sent us.
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WALKER: Oh, great.
How you doing?
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ROBBIE: Said you got
some stuff for sale, maybe.
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WALKER: We do have
some stuff for sale.
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Let me, uh, just
open up here for ya.
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WALKER: Come on in.
ROBBIE: How you doing?
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WALKER: I'm good,
how are you?
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ROBBIE: Rob Wolfe.
good to see you, man.
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WALKER: Nice to meet you.
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MEFFORD: Hey,
nice to meet you, Walker.
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MEFFORD: This is some of
the stuff we're looking for.
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WALKER: Okay, you know, that'd
actually be more my dad's call,
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but he's around here; you wanna
go see if we can find him?
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MEFFORD: Okay.
ROBBIE: Show us around.
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So, how long have
you had this yard here?
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WALKER: Uh, as long
as I can remember.
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I remember running around
here as a little kid.
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I'm a little over 30,
so probably 25 or 30 years.
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ROBBIE: So you've
accumulated that much stuff?
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WALKER: Well, yeah,
I called you guys because
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my dad's getting a little older,
and a couple of years ago,
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he put me in charge of selling
some of these old cars.
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WALKER: Hey, Dad!
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JB: Yo!
ROBBIE: How you doing?
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JB: You have friends.
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MEFFORD: Good friends.
We're good friends.
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ROBBIE: We're friends.
JB: Car guys?
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ROBBIE: Yeah, we're
here to help you.
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ROBBIE: We're here to help you.
JB: Car guys?
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MEFFORD: Name's Mike.
Very nice to meet you.
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JB: You're not with
the government, right?
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MEFFORD: No, not with
the government at all.
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ROBBIE: No, no government.
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MEFFORD: Hey, these are some of
the things we're looking for.
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JB: Okay.
ROBBIE: Got any of that stuff?
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JB: We're a little short
on old dolls and uh...
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JB: Yeah, we got
a lot of this stuff actually.
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MEFFORD: Hey, one thing
that caught my eye...
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is the fiberglass
body over there.
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JB: Come here, you get
a little closer, I'll show ya.
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It's an actual race car body.
MEFFORD: Look at that thing!
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JB: It's a piece of art,
it really is.
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MEFFORD: Oh, it is.
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Especially with the air scoops
and stuff on it.
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Robbie, look at this.
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ROBBIE: Did you guys
make this body, yourself?
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JB: Uh no, I rescued it.
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JB: It was at a race car shop
that was closing down
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and they didn't know
what to do with it, and I said,
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"I know what to do with it.
We're gonna save it."
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ROBBIE: How long has it
been hanging around here?
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JB: Oh, it's 50 years old.
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My plan was to keep it
from being destroyed.
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ROBBIE: Oh, and that was it.
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JB: And worry about
the rest of it later.
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JB: How could you go to the dump
with something like that?
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That's how I value everything,
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is will this be
a part of history?
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Are you gonna
destroy history,
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or are you gonna
preserve history?
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JB: One of the reasons
I kept this is because
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I'm in the fiberglass business.
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JB: In 1969, I founded
American Fiberglass.
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We're a custom job shop.
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Essentially we are known as
the Dirty Harry of Fiberglass.
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If everybody else can't
or won't do it, they come here,
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and we end up doing a lot
of the more challenging work.
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MEFFORD: What year do you
think this was produced?
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JB: Well, it's gotta be '60s.
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Everything was built
in wind tunnels.
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Even the air intakes...
MEFFORD: Um‐hm.
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JB: ...were streamlined
and that sort of thing.
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It's just a piece of art.
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MEFFORD: Look at this.
JB: Yeah.
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MEFFORD: Look at
the sloping on the rear here.
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JB: That's the beginning
of the modernization
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of race cars.
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JB: Formula Vee and some
of those Formula Ford
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were intermediary
type of racing,
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when you could build
your own car, your own body,
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your own chassis,
you were limited on the engines,
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but really the aerodynamics
of it was the fun part,
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and that was the art of it.
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JB: A local privateer decided
he was gonna try and enter
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a car at Le Mans,
and we were fortunate enough
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to build the body for it.
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And it actually
wound up finishing
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second overall at Le Mans.
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MEFFORD: No kidding!
Wow!
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ROBBIE: What year was that?
JB: '87.
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ROBBIE & MEFFORD: '87.
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JB: There's an incredible amount
of racing based out of Phoenix.
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Drag racing was our foundation,
and we had a car that we built
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that won the Trans‐Am Series,
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and won the Solo II
Championship in the '80s.
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So it's really been
an amazing ride.
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I had a lot of good fortune.
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MEFFORD: Would this be something
you'd consider selling?
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JB: I've always wanted it
to just go to a good home.
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I think I got over the idea
that I was gonna do it.
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So, you make me
a reasonable offer.
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MEFFORD: You know,
it's all about condition.
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You know, I'm gonna
have to do quite a bit of
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fiberglass repair here,
underneath,
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in the back here
to bring it up.
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Would you consider about 650?
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JB: Hmm.
Um...
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Hadn't think of giving
it away that cheap.
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I, uh... but, you know,
I realize that you‐‐
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if you're gonna have
to do a lot of work to‐‐
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I just want to make sure
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it's gonna be taken
care of, honestly.
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I've been watching over it
for 25 years, so...
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MEFFORD: Oh, I'll
take care of it.
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JB: Okay.
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MEFFORD: And I'll do
the work on it, and I'll...
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JB: And I want to see it
when it's done.
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MEFFORD: Okay.
You got it.
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JB: Take it.
MEFFORD: Thank you.
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MEFFORD: One thing
I really want to do
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is to make it structurally
strong again.
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ROBBIE: Grab the honey hole.
You got it, Mefford?
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MEFFORD: Got it.
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MEFFORD: Then I'd
like to paint it.
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I'm thinking about going
with a traditional white...
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ROBBIE: [grunts]
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Thank god the thing's
light, man.
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MEFFORD: ...with maybe
a blue or a red rally stripe
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down the centre.
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And then it'll just
be a work of art.
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MEFFORD: How fast do I
look like I'm going?
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ROBBIE: You look like you're
going 100‐mile‐an‐hour.
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JB: Hey, I want it back now!
I haven't seen it in 20 years.
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JB: What... this is the coolest
thing on the planet!
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How much you want for it?
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JB: He really‐‐
he was really happy.
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That's worth all the money
in the world right there.
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JB: You got it?
MEFFORD: Got it.
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JB: Don't drop it.
Oh, don't drop it.
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MEFFORD: Oh, yeah...
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JB: The physical representation
of that kind of a piece of art
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is priceless.
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JB: Okay, gentlemen...
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Welcome to Zephyr‐ville!
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MEFFORD: Ahh...
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JB: Huh?
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Got enough Zephyrs for ya?
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The biggest collection of '38
and ‐9s anywhere that I know of.
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MEFFORD: Really, right here?
JB: Yeah, right here.
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JB: Lincoln Zephyr,
I was first introduced to them
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at a show at
the Phoenix Art Museum.
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That was the first time
I'd ever seen one.
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I mean, they're incredibly rare.
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You just don't go see them
at car shows; they're not there.
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JB: In that show were a lot
of handmade one‐off cars,
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but there was one
car that was stock,
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and that was a '39
Zephyr Coupe.
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And it just stood
right up and said,
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"I'm as good as
any of you guys."
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It was magnificent.
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And I thought, "Wow,
better get on that."
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That was 15 years ago.
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There's no question
that Zephyrs are art.
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JB: There's nothing more
beautiful than that car.
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Bring them on.
Bring on the Ferraris,
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the Maseratis,
Hispano‐Suizas.
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This thing holds its own
against anything.
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That's an amazing accomplishment
for an American production car.
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JB: This whole thing was
made to go through the air.
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This whole shape flows
together from the sides,
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into the middle,
from this side into the middle.
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And then it flows‐‐
the air goes over the top.
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ROBBIE: Watching JB look over
the lines on this car
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and he's describing it, his arms
are flaring up in the air;
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he actually looks
like he's the conductor
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for the New York Symphony.
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JB: Edsel Ford spent
a lot of time in Europe.
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Over here we were building
boxes, and he told his dad,
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he said, "Look, I don't
want to do boxes,
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"I want to build cars that are
beautiful, they're streamlined,
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"and are modern and take us
into the next generation."
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JB: They have a magic to them
that only gets better with time.
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JB: This one came
from California;
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that one came from Arizona.
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JB: You're never gonna
find a bunch more of them;
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they're not gonna make
reproductions; this is it.
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JB: If you were interested,
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and you want
to put a car together,
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you take a front end
off of this car,
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you get the back end off
of that car, the fenders,
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you end up with a complete car
for, you know, 4 to 6 grand.
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MEFFORD: He's
getting us the vision
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of what we can do
with this stuff.
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ROBBIE: I'm liking
the way your mind works.
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But is there anything that
you have that's up on wheels,
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with a motor in it already?
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JB: Uh...
they're a little spendy.
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You sure...
ROBBIE: Show them to me.
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JB: Okay.
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Well, if you're okay with it,
sure, I'll be happy to.
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MEFFORD: Let's go.
ROBBIE: Yeah.
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MEFFORD: God,
this is incredible.
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But a little bit too much work,
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a little bit
too far gone for me.
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WALKER: So, this is
American Fiberglass.
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This is where we do all
of our fiberglass work.
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We do a broad range
of industrial,
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architectural art projects.
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JB: You know,
there's art in engineering,
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and there's engineering in art.
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And what we've been able to do
is tie the two things together.
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We've executed some of
the largest pieces of art
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in the world,
and they're still functioning.
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They're in a public setting,
so they need to be durable.
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WALKER: This is also
where we keep our project cars
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that we work on in various
stages of restoration.
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MEFFORD: Such as
this 1953 Buick?
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WALKER: Yeah,
that's exactly right.
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MEFFORD: Anniversary edition.
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Super rare.
Is this for sale?
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JB: That one's already gone.
But this is an even rarer car.
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This is a 1940 Lincoln Zephyr
convertible coupe.
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MEFFORD: Is it for sale?
JB: Yes, it is for sale.
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Almost all of them
run from 35 to 55,000.
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MEFFORD: Now,
this car is complete
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with the engine still in it?
JB: Absolutely.
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Yeah, everything is complete,
and that's very difficult
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to do with a car this rare.
MEFFORD: Yeah.
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JB: In order for us
to afford to work on the cars,
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we have the same people
cross‐trading to work
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on industrial, so that
we don't have to lay them off.
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The average term of work
here is 36 years.
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ROBBIE: You haven't hired
anybody in 36 years?
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JB: No, sir.
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We just try
to cover our expenses
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and keep our people employed.
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Then they move back over
to the industrial side.
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JB: Find good people,
motivate them, pay them well,
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and get the hell
out of their way.
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That's how you run
a really good shop.
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MEFFORD: Wow.
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JB: This is a really
rare car here.
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MEFFORD: Oh, yeah.
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JB: This is a '39 Lincoln
Zephyr convertible coupe,
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which arguably is one of the
most beautiful cars ever made.
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A car in this condition,
where everything's there,
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the body work is
pretty much complete,
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is in the 50 to $60,000 area.
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MEFFORD: You're right
on it for the price.
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But unfortunately, we're
not the guys to finish it.
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JB: Yeah, I understand it.
It's not your deal.
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MEFFORD: I can see why
Zephyr‐ville was so important,
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because that's his little yard
where he gets a lot of his
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parts from, to put these
project cars together.
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MEFFORD: What about this one?
This is a '38, this is the king.
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Three‐window coupe, I mean,
look at it, look at the sloping,
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the back end is just
as sexy as the front.
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The way it swoops back.
Split‐window.
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They thought '63 Corvette
did a split window, come on,
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they had it way before that.
JB: That's where they got it.
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MEFFORD: What kind of number
do you have on this?
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JB: Uh...
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WALKER: This one
actually isn't for sale.
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This is kind of the king.
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It's one that we're gonna
keep and restore in‐house.
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JB: You know, when you told me
that you thought this was
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the better way to go,
I just missed it.
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As usual,
I'm going way too fast.
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But you have a habit of studying
things and understanding them,
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and for that, you know,
I'm incredibly proud of the fact
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that I get to work with you.
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And that's
the god's honest truth.
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WALKER: Thank you.
JB: You're very welcome.
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WALKER: I'm really
looking forward to it.
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JB: Okay, good.
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JB: You know, to work with your
son, it's a tough thing to do.
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WALKER: You know, why don't
we show them some stuff
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up in the parts room
that actually is for sale?
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ROBBIE: Alright.
MEFFORD: Let's do it.
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JB: It normally doesn't work,
mostly because the fathers
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can't honour their own sons.
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They keep seeing them
as their children.
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You have to see them as men;
you have to see them as leaders.
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And he's gonna be
running this place.
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It's an incredible blessing.
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WALKER: Okay, Dad, why don't
you take them upstairs?
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I've gotta go meet
with a customer right now.
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JB: Okay.
WALKER: Thanks for coming.
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It was really nice to meet you.
MEFFORD: Nice to meet you.
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ROBBIE: Nice meeting you.
Good to see you, buddy.
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WALKER: Thanks so much.
MEFFORD: Alright.
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JB: See some good parts?
MEFFORD: Finally, yeah!
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ROBBIE: Yeah.
JB: This way.
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MEFFORD: Let's go.
ROBBIE: Lead us the way.
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GORDIE: Well,
I was one of the stuntmen
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♪
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DANIELLE: Hey, listen,
Gordie's already called me;
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he's looking for you.
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Man, that dude
rises with the sun.
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MIKE: What time did you
tell him I was gonna be there?
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DANIELLE: Well,
I said in the morning.
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But Mike, he rises
with the sun.
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MIKE: I thought you said
he was 90 years old.
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DANIELLE: He is,
but this guy is a pistol.
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MIKE: Trust me,
I'm feeling this one.
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I'm excited to meet this guy.
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MIKE: While Frank
is out of commission,
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I'm picking solo in Florida.
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MIKE: I mean, how often
do you get a chance
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to meet a real cowboy?
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DANIELLE: I know!
That's why I'm jealous!
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MIKE: I'm on my way to meet
a Golden Age Hollywood stuntman,
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Gordie Peer.
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MIKE: I'll call you later
and let you know how it goes.
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DANIELLE: Alright, have fun,
I'll talk to you later.
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MIKE: See ya, honey.
DANIELLE: Bye.
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MIKE: As soon as Danielle
starts telling me about Gordie,
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I'm painting a
picture in my mind...
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MIKE: End of the trail.
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Oh, yeah.
Wow.
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MIKE: ...and imagining
what he's gonna look like,
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and what it's gonna
be like to meet him.
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♪
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MIKE: Gordie!
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Hey!
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GORDIE: What the heck
are you doing here?
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MIKE: Hey, you talked
to Dani on the phone?
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Danielle in Iowa.
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GORDIE: I've been waiting
for four hours for you.
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What the hell's
the matter with you?
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MIKE: Really?
Oh man, I'm sorry.
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MIKE: If you're gonna be
a cowboy and you're gonna be
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a badass, you better be on time.
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MIKE: Hey, I drove down
here from Nashville.
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Good to see you.
GORDIE: Really?
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MIKE: Yeah, good to see ya.
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She probably gave you a list
of this stuff over the phone.
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But, uh... when she called me
and she told me your story,
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I just made a bonsai right
down here; I had to meet ya.
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GORDIE: Really?
MIKE: You're a big deal!
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I heard about you
all the way up in Nashville!
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Yeah, yeah.
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GORDIE: It's all
a bunch of bull.
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None of it's true.
MIKE: Well, I'll tell you what,
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I appreciate you
letting me come.
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Can we look around
a little bit?
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GORDIE: I'm Gordie Peer,
and this is my ranch.
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♪
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MIKE: So, this is what
Dani was telling me about.
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GORDIE: Yeah, this is
where I set up all my stuff,
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so that people could
see stuff that I've done.
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MIKE: This is a guy
that lived it.
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He worked it, he experienced
the Golden Age of Westerns.
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MIKE: Who's this guy?
GORDIE: That's me.
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MIKE: That's you?
Wow!
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GORDIE: That's me with this
hat on, spinning the gun.
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MIKE: Look how fast
you're spinning it!
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You can't even see the gun.
GORDIE: Well...
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I'm faster than lightning.
MIKE: Dang.
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GORDIE: Throughout my whole
life, I've entertained people.
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I could do stuff with a gun
and a whip and a rope,
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and made a heck of
a living at it.
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GORDIE: That's Greta
Garbo's Duesenberg,
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and that's me driving it.
MIKE: No way!
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GORDIE: One of the big things
that I did is doing stunts
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in the movies.
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Sometimes it was
playing a character,
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like when I had to ride a horse
and jump over a fence
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dressed as a girl.
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MIKE: Did you hang
all these pictures up?
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GORDIE: Yeah, and...
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there were photographs that
I've collected over the years,
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of people that I knew,
and most of them are people
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that I worked with.
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MIKE: To meet somebody
that walked among the giants,
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the stars of the
Hollywood Westerns is epic.
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He's the real deal.
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GORDIE: You see that picture
down there on the bottom?
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That's actually Clayton Moore,
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who played the Lone Ranger.
MIKE: Yeah.
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MIKE: The Lone Ranger
is an American icon.
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He is a hero to generations.
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TONTO: Here's gun
to kill bad men.
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LONE RANGER: I'm not
going to do any killing.
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TONTO: You will not
defend yourself?
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LONE RANGER: Oh,
I'll shoot if I have to.
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But I'll shoot to wound,
not to kill.
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If a man must die, it's up
to the law to decide that,
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not the person
behind a six‐shooter.
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TONTO: That's right,
kemo‐sabe.
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GORDIE: Well, I was one of
the stuntmen that worked with
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Clayton and filming
the series...
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MIKE: On the Lone Ranger?
GORDIE: Yeah.
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00:14:03,209 --> 00:14:04,377
On the Lone Ranger series.
MIKE: No kidding!
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MIKE: So, how old were you
when you met him?
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GORDIE: I was 17, 18 years old,
and I had met Clayton.
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00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:11,484
His original name was Jack.
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I got to be friends
with him and he says,
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"Try to get on the set and get
some of the stunt jobs with me."
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MIKE: No kidding.
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GORDIE: So that's when
I started doing stunts with him
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and several of the guys.
They were in Hollywood.
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GORDIE: I've gone to
do shows and they say,
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"Lone Ranger, who's that?"
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00:14:26,933 --> 00:14:28,634
You know?
[chuckles]
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They've forgotten, you know?
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It is...
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gradually being lost.
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MIKE: When I was a kid,
we knew who he was.
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Even though the show had
probably been out of production
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for 15 years,
we were watching reruns, man!
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We were chilling out
in the morning in our underwear
446
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wearing our holsters
and our cap guns.
447
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We wanted to be him.
448
00:14:47,153 --> 00:14:48,955
GORDIE: That's me and him
together in street clothes.
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00:14:49,021 --> 00:14:50,390
MIKE: Oh yeah, look
how young you were there.
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GORDIE: And we were standing
out behind a barn practicing,
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and this woman
come up and says,
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"Could I take your picture?"
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He says,
"Turn and draw your gun."
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And he says, "Don't beat me.
I'm the Lone Ranger."
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MIKE: [laughs]
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GORDIE: And I stopped...
just in time.
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00:15:04,003 --> 00:15:06,272
MIKE: "Don't beat me,
I'm the Lone Ranger!"
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GORDIE: Clayton was playing
the part of the Lone Ranger,
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and few people realized
that he was making $25 a week.
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00:15:12,612 --> 00:15:15,014
MIKE: He was making 25 bucks
a week as the Lone Ranger?
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00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:16,315
GORDIE: As playing
the Lone Ranger.
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00:15:16,382 --> 00:15:18,317
MIKE: Imagine
if the Lone Ranger's salary
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matched his fame,
how big that number would be.
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00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:25,858
25 bucks for somebody that
was so iconic, even back then?
465
00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:27,460
It's crazy to even think of.
466
00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,028
MIKE: Then if you were
a stuntman for him,
467
00:15:29,095 --> 00:15:30,396
what were you making a week?
468
00:15:30,463 --> 00:15:33,099
GORDIE: Well, I...
you don't work continuously.
469
00:15:33,166 --> 00:15:34,534
It's so you gotta
make a living,
470
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,036
so I would go get
beat up making movies,
471
00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:40,506
and then go off on the weekends
to a rodeo or something.
472
00:15:40,573 --> 00:15:42,341
I'd do a knife throwing act.
MIKE: Okay.
473
00:15:42,408 --> 00:15:44,510
GORDIE: Or I'd go
and do a program
474
00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:46,312
at a theatre or something...
MIKE: Yeah.
475
00:15:46,379 --> 00:15:47,747
GORDIE: ...and I'd get
paid to do a show.
476
00:15:47,814 --> 00:15:50,316
You did what you had to do
to earn the money to eat.
477
00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:52,051
MIKE: Yeah.
Well, of course.
478
00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,620
GORDIE: When you're
familiar with the trade
479
00:15:54,687 --> 00:15:56,189
of being a cattleman,
480
00:15:56,255 --> 00:15:58,191
well, I found out that I could
481
00:15:58,257 --> 00:16:00,993
capitalize with my abilities.
482
00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:02,995
Sometimes with a demonstration,
483
00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:05,932
and sometimes a rodeo,
and sometimes a Wild West show.
484
00:16:05,998 --> 00:16:09,936
And then I found out that
a lot of people who are actors
485
00:16:10,002 --> 00:16:11,370
don't know how to do that.
486
00:16:11,437 --> 00:16:13,105
Well, I would train them.
487
00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:16,409
GORDIE: See, Clayton Moore,
on the series,
488
00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:18,978
he draws the gun out,
and then he shoots the gun.
489
00:16:19,045 --> 00:16:20,880
MIKE: So he picks the gun up
straight and then shoots?
490
00:16:20,947 --> 00:16:22,181
GORDIE: So he's
shooting the gun.
491
00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:23,483
MIKE: Okay.
GORDIE: I would show him
492
00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:25,117
how to put your hand
right where it belongs
493
00:16:25,184 --> 00:16:27,386
and brought out
and don't change your hand.
494
00:16:27,453 --> 00:16:30,189
Now, when Clayton wanted to put
the gun back in the holster,
495
00:16:30,256 --> 00:16:31,390
he'd have to look down.
496
00:16:31,457 --> 00:16:33,159
MIKE: Uh‐huh.
GORDIE: I says, "Don't do that."
497
00:16:33,226 --> 00:16:35,094
You drop the gun in your hand.
MIKE: Yep.
498
00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:36,929
GORDIE: Put the barrel into
the holster and then turn it
499
00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:38,197
into the holster.
500
00:16:38,264 --> 00:16:40,199
MIKE: So you're the guy
that taught the Lone Ranger
501
00:16:40,266 --> 00:16:41,334
how to do that?
502
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,003
GORDIE: Yeah.
Here.
503
00:16:44,070 --> 00:16:45,671
MIKE: It's got
some weight to it.
504
00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:48,207
Oh yeah, look at that buckle.
Look at that one.
505
00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:50,676
So you've got it out,
and you're gonna drop‐‐
506
00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:53,779
GORDIE: No, but...
but don't hang...
507
00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:56,148
Put your gun out; put your
finger on the trigger;
508
00:16:56,215 --> 00:16:59,285
that's what you gota do.
MIKE: [laughs] Okay.
509
00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:02,221
Alright, so I'm here,
I'm here.
510
00:17:02,288 --> 00:17:03,589
Wait... I'm here...
511
00:17:03,656 --> 00:17:06,359
[both laugh]
512
00:17:06,425 --> 00:17:10,229
MIKE: Easy, Gordie!
Okay, here...
513
00:17:10,296 --> 00:17:12,632
There...
514
00:17:12,698 --> 00:17:14,200
There.
515
00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:15,535
Look, I didn't look!
516
00:17:15,601 --> 00:17:18,704
GORDIE: Hi‐ho, Silver, away!
MIKE: [laughs]
517
00:17:18,771 --> 00:17:21,007
MIKE: I'm learning how
to holster a six‐shooter
518
00:17:21,073 --> 00:17:23,643
from the guy that taught
the Lone Ranger!
519
00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:25,745
You know, this is like
learning how to karate chop
520
00:17:25,811 --> 00:17:27,446
from Bruce Lee, or...
521
00:17:27,513 --> 00:17:29,815
how to paint, you know,
from Van Gogh,
522
00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:32,718
or how to swing a bat
from Babe Ruth!
523
00:17:32,785 --> 00:17:35,655
Or maybe it's more
like learning how to do that
524
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:37,857
from the guy that
taught those guys...
525
00:17:37,924 --> 00:17:39,725
[laughs]
But it's still cool.
526
00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:42,194
MIKE: So, what's changed for you
527
00:17:42,261 --> 00:17:44,463
to want to sell
some of these things?
528
00:17:44,530 --> 00:17:45,831
GORDIE: What am I
gonna do with it?
529
00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:48,634
I kick the bucket, somebody
comes in here and it all gets
530
00:17:48,701 --> 00:17:50,736
thrown in the trash barrel.
MIKE: Yeah.
531
00:17:50,803 --> 00:17:53,439
GORDIE: Why don't some of the
people that really appreciated
532
00:17:53,506 --> 00:17:55,841
the old Westerns and still,
you know, idolize that stuff...
533
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:57,843
MIKE: Fans of the stuff, yeah.
534
00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:00,646
GORDIE: ...would give them
the chance to have some of
535
00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:02,114
this stuff that belongs to me.
MIKE: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
536
00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:05,251
MIKE: This is a huge deal that
Gordie has decided to even sell
537
00:18:05,318 --> 00:18:08,120
some of this stuff, because this
isn't your typical collection.
538
00:18:08,187 --> 00:18:12,558
These are bits and pieces
and memories of Gordie's life.
539
00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:15,528
I am so honoured that
he even called us.
540
00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:17,096
MIKE: Look, here's
Tom Mix's handkerchief.
541
00:18:17,163 --> 00:18:18,364
How'd you get that?
GORDIE: Yeah.
542
00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:20,299
A guy that was a friend
of his gave it to me.
543
00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:21,634
MIKE: Wow.
544
00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:23,703
What are you thinking on
something like Tom Mix's hanky?
545
00:18:23,769 --> 00:18:25,638
I mean, do you think
he ever blew his nose on it
546
00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:26,839
or wiped his face or anything?
547
00:18:26,906 --> 00:18:28,407
GORDIE: I don't know
whether he ever did or not,
548
00:18:28,474 --> 00:18:31,143
but I just always
cherished it because
549
00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:33,779
it's a bit of the beginning
of the old Western movie.
550
00:18:33,846 --> 00:18:34,914
MIKE: Yeah.
551
00:18:34,981 --> 00:18:36,182
MIKE: If you're
a fan of Westerns,
552
00:18:36,248 --> 00:18:37,783
you're a fan of Tom Mix.
553
00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:39,652
GORDIE: And Hoot Gibson
gave me that.
554
00:18:39,719 --> 00:18:41,887
MIKE: But Hoot is my guy, man!
555
00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:45,057
Movies like Death Valley
Rangers, Lucky Terror,
556
00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:48,160
Edmund Richard "Hoot" Gibson,
he was the man.
557
00:18:48,227 --> 00:18:49,895
I mean, I'm a huge fan.
558
00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:51,130
MIKE: Would you sell
something like that?
559
00:18:51,197 --> 00:18:55,234
GORDIE: Well... yeah.
560
00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:56,802
MIKE: Look at that, alright.
GORDIE: Yep.
561
00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:58,704
MIKE: Ooh,
it's a silk handkerchief.
562
00:18:58,771 --> 00:19:00,539
And who was the gentleman
that gave it to you?
563
00:19:00,606 --> 00:19:02,308
Was he directly
working with Tom?
564
00:19:02,375 --> 00:19:05,111
GORDIE: Well, he was travelling
with the Eskew Rodeo,
565
00:19:05,177 --> 00:19:07,947
and he knew me and he said,
566
00:19:08,014 --> 00:19:09,348
"You know,
you ought to have this."
567
00:19:09,415 --> 00:19:12,284
I've just always
kept it like that.
568
00:19:12,351 --> 00:19:14,453
MIKE: When it comes to
the American Western stars,
569
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,756
Tom Mix, no doubt, number 1.
570
00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:18,391
MIKE: This one
was Hoot Gibson's.
571
00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:20,626
MIKE: But Hoot was
right there at number 2.
572
00:19:20,693 --> 00:19:23,295
Now number 2 usually
means the first loser,
573
00:19:23,362 --> 00:19:25,164
but not when it comes
to Hoot Gibson, man.
574
00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:26,732
MIKE: These were
dress‐up hankies, man.
575
00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:28,067
These things are silk.
576
00:19:28,134 --> 00:19:30,302
MIKE: I mean, to have both
of these guys' handkerchiefs,
577
00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:31,570
is a big deal, man.
578
00:19:31,637 --> 00:19:34,040
GORDIE: And it's all
in knowing how to tie one.
579
00:19:34,106 --> 00:19:35,608
MIKE: Is this
a letter he wrote ya?
580
00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,544
GORDIE: No, that was
a letter that was given to me.
581
00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:41,514
MIKE: "Mr. Buddy Mefford,
Los Angeles, California, 1942."
582
00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:42,848
GORDIE: Buddy Mefford.
583
00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:45,184
MIKE: It says, "Dear Buddy,
I was glad to hear from you
584
00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:47,019
"but sorry to hear the bad news,
585
00:19:47,086 --> 00:19:49,889
"'cause I sure had figured
on coming down there this month,
586
00:19:49,955 --> 00:19:53,192
"but I guess with the war
situation the way it is,
587
00:19:53,259 --> 00:19:55,227
"no one knows
exactly what to do."
588
00:19:55,294 --> 00:19:56,529
Wow!
GORDIE: Um‐hm.
589
00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:58,764
MIKE: Then there's that
personal letter that Hoot wrote
590
00:19:58,831 --> 00:20:01,934
to a friend back home,
while he was serving his country
591
00:20:01,967 --> 00:20:03,035
in World War II.
592
00:20:03,102 --> 00:20:04,470
This is some epic stuff.
593
00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:07,373
MIKE: Okay, what about
his handkerchief, the letter,
594
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,643
and this handkerchief for...
595
00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:12,011
400.
596
00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:13,612
GORDIE: What are you
gonna do with them?
597
00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:14,914
MIKE: Oh, are you kidding?
598
00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:16,449
The first thing I'm gonna
do with this is put it around
599
00:20:16,515 --> 00:20:19,652
my neck, and ride my 1937
Knucklehead down the road.
600
00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:22,388
GORDIE: [laughs]
601
00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:23,989
Is it gonna be some place,
602
00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:25,257
or where...
MIKE: Yeah.
603
00:20:25,324 --> 00:20:27,493
We would put something
like this on display.
604
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,830
But the thing is, if somebody
comes in and they want it
605
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:32,932
more than I do,
and they're gonna cherish it...
606
00:20:32,998 --> 00:20:34,166
GORDIE: Yeah.
MIKE: ...or they have
607
00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:35,868
a connection to it,
then I'm gonna sell it to them.
608
00:20:35,935 --> 00:20:37,536
GORDIE: That's exactly
what should happen.
609
00:20:37,603 --> 00:20:40,940
It should be passed down to
where it doesn't end up junk.
610
00:20:41,006 --> 00:20:42,675
MIKE: No, nothing like that.
611
00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:45,044
GORDIE: Is my name
connected to that?
612
00:20:45,111 --> 00:20:47,279
MIKE: Of course, your name
is connected to all of it,
613
00:20:47,346 --> 00:20:48,748
my friend.
That's why I'm here.
614
00:20:48,814 --> 00:20:50,516
GORDIE: They need
to go someplace
615
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,085
where somebody will
really see what they are.
616
00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:54,787
MIKE: 400 bucks.
617
00:20:54,854 --> 00:20:56,889
GORDIE: I am sure
that there's people
618
00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:58,424
that would probably
give me more.
619
00:20:58,491 --> 00:21:01,727
But the dollars
and cents is not the point.
620
00:21:01,794 --> 00:21:03,229
GORDIE: Yeah, okay.
621
00:21:03,295 --> 00:21:04,663
MIKE: Okay,
my friend, thank you.
622
00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:05,831
I appreciate it.
623
00:21:05,898 --> 00:21:08,534
MIKE: To have
the opportunity to even purchase
624
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:12,071
something like this, from
a guy like Gordie, is legendary.
625
00:21:12,138 --> 00:21:13,906
This is like picking folklore.
626
00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:20,412
GORDIE: You can just
switch hands rapidly.
627
00:21:20,479 --> 00:21:23,048
♪
628
00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:25,918
JB: Well, the parts
are up here, you guys.
629
00:21:25,985 --> 00:21:29,288
We have an upstairs,
and there's a lot of Buicks...
630
00:21:29,355 --> 00:21:30,823
ROBBIE: Whoa!
MEFFORD: [laughs]
631
00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:32,258
ROBBIE: Ha!
Wow!
632
00:21:32,324 --> 00:21:34,727
MEFFORD: Oh my god,
look at this!
633
00:21:34,794 --> 00:21:35,995
This is a '39?
634
00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:37,229
JB: '39.
MEFFORD: Oh!
635
00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:39,498
ROBBIE: This is like
pure jewelry right here.
636
00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:41,233
JB: This is one
we're just finishing.
637
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:42,568
MEFFORD: This is stunning!
638
00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:46,138
JB: Yeah, that's about 5‐ to 600
hours of just body work,
639
00:21:46,205 --> 00:21:47,473
200 hours of paint.
640
00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:48,908
So it's almost 1,000 hours.
641
00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:52,978
JB: Sometimes it takes weeks
and weeks just to hang one door,
642
00:21:53,045 --> 00:21:55,347
to get it to fit like that.
That's a round car.
643
00:21:55,414 --> 00:21:57,016
All the way around
that door is round,
644
00:21:57,082 --> 00:21:59,852
all those interfaces are
perfect, or they're not.
645
00:21:59,919 --> 00:22:01,554
ROBBIE: Man,
the craftsmanship in here
646
00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:04,023
is just absolutely crazy.
647
00:22:04,089 --> 00:22:05,991
So you guys built
the steering wheel,
648
00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:08,227
all these handles, everything?
JB: Right, right, everything.
649
00:22:08,294 --> 00:22:11,697
ROBBIE: It's even further proof
of JB's integrity in these cars.
650
00:22:11,764 --> 00:22:13,966
MEFFORD: Oh, look at that.
ROBBIE: Wow.
651
00:22:14,033 --> 00:22:15,401
JB: This engine
took eight months.
652
00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,002
ROBBIE: Are the three
carburetors set up?
653
00:22:17,069 --> 00:22:19,138
Do all three work?
JB: Yes, they do.
654
00:22:19,205 --> 00:22:21,574
ROBBIE: Most guys that do
anything with carburetion,
655
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,843
they stamp two off
and they make one run.
656
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:24,977
They make it simple.
657
00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:26,879
MEFFORD: JB, educate me on this.
658
00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:28,247
What's this thing worth?
659
00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:31,851
JB: A car of this quality is
gonna be close to $200,000.
660
00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:33,052
MEFFORD: Beautiful.
661
00:22:33,118 --> 00:22:34,520
Absolutely beautiful.
662
00:22:34,587 --> 00:22:36,856
What do you say, Robbie?
663
00:22:36,922 --> 00:22:41,727
♪
664
00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:44,897
♪
665
00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:48,367
♪
666
00:22:48,434 --> 00:22:49,869
GORDIE: Spin it
around like that.
667
00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:52,071
If your right arm gets tired,
668
00:22:52,137 --> 00:22:53,906
then you do it
with the left hand,
669
00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:57,309
or you can just
switch hands rapidly.
670
00:22:57,376 --> 00:23:01,247
If you keep going,
you keep switching.
671
00:23:01,313 --> 00:23:03,015
MIKE: We meet
a lot of collectors.
672
00:23:03,082 --> 00:23:04,984
MIKE: [laughs]
673
00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:08,187
MIKE: But every once in a while,
you find somebody like Gordie
674
00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:09,822
that wasn't
necessarily a collector,
675
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,757
they were just more of
a curator of their own life.
676
00:23:11,824 --> 00:23:13,893
Meaning, like,
I collect old motorcycles,
677
00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:15,561
I wasn't experiencing them.
678
00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:17,429
MIKE: Ahh!
You see that?
679
00:23:17,496 --> 00:23:19,665
GORDIE: Yeah.
680
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:21,934
MIKE: I'm learning
from the guy
681
00:23:21,967 --> 00:23:25,304
that taught Lone Ranger
how to smoke 'em.
682
00:23:25,371 --> 00:23:26,705
MIKE: Damn!
683
00:23:26,772 --> 00:23:27,940
MIKE: This is like
a Hollywood movie
684
00:23:28,007 --> 00:23:31,844
that I'm just walking
around in and it's real!
685
00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:33,479
MIKE: [laughs]
I did it.
686
00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:34,980
GORDIE: He did it!
He did it!
687
00:23:35,047 --> 00:23:36,849
MIKE: [laughs]
688
00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:38,751
Ugh!
689
00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:41,620
Almost!
690
00:23:41,687 --> 00:23:43,155
Woo!
691
00:23:43,222 --> 00:23:44,790
Ow...
I just whipped myself!
692
00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:46,625
[both laugh]
693
00:23:46,692 --> 00:23:47,760
GORDIE: There you go.
694
00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:49,261
MIKE: I'm doing it!
695
00:23:49,328 --> 00:23:52,197
It's got a handle that spins.
That's cheating.
696
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,400
MIKE: [laughs]
697
00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:55,868
Alright, I'm done!
698
00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:58,337
[whip snaps]
MIKE: [laughs]
699
00:23:58,404 --> 00:24:00,072
MIKE: What else you got?
700
00:24:00,139 --> 00:24:04,643
♪
701
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:06,178
GORDIE: That's Jock O'Mahoney.
702
00:24:06,245 --> 00:24:07,780
Started off playing Tarzan.
703
00:24:07,846 --> 00:24:09,048
MIKE: Oh yeah, yeah.
704
00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:12,518
I have a huge lobby piece
from one of his movies,
705
00:24:12,584 --> 00:24:14,820
and his son sold it to me.
GORDIE: There you go.
706
00:24:14,887 --> 00:24:16,622
MIKE: And he was telling me‐‐
I thought that Jock‐‐
707
00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:18,324
wasn't Jocko
a stuntman for a while?
708
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:20,159
GORDIE: Yeah, he did stunts.
709
00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:22,394
JIM: My dad used to do
Errol Flynn's stunts.
710
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:23,495
MIKE: Really.
JIM: Yeah.
711
00:24:23,562 --> 00:24:24,496
Jock Mahoney.
MIKE: That's your dad.
712
00:24:24,563 --> 00:24:25,698
JIM: That's my dad.
713
00:24:25,764 --> 00:24:26,832
MIKE: Your dad
starred in this movie?
714
00:24:26,899 --> 00:24:28,600
JIM: Yeah.
There he is, Jock O'Mahoney.
715
00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:30,803
GORDIE: And that's Jocko
when he and I were
716
00:24:30,869 --> 00:24:32,171
making an appearance together.
717
00:24:32,237 --> 00:24:35,808
MIKE: It doesn't surprise me
that Gordie knew Jock O'Mahoney.
718
00:24:35,874 --> 00:24:38,310
GORDIE: He could jump
and land sitting in the saddle.
719
00:24:38,377 --> 00:24:40,779
MIKE: Whoa, so he would
swing his leg over the top?
720
00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:43,415
GORDIE: And I did it too.
MIKE: No kidding!
721
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:44,483
GORDIE: And he says,
"You can't do"‐‐
722
00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:46,085
but Jocko was
that much taller than me.
723
00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:47,519
MIKE: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
724
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:48,721
GORDIE: He says,
"You little pipsqueak,
725
00:24:48,787 --> 00:24:51,023
"you can't do it."
So I would go and do it again.
726
00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:53,692
He says, "I'm gonna cut
your legs off," you know?
727
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:54,827
MIKE: [laughs]
728
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:56,161
GORDIE: He gave me
all kinds of fit,
729
00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:57,997
but I got along fine with him.
MIKE: Oh my gosh.
730
00:24:58,063 --> 00:24:59,264
Well, tell me about
this photograph.
731
00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:00,499
Where'd you get that at?
732
00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:03,902
"21st Annual World
Championship Rodeo
733
00:25:03,969 --> 00:25:07,940
"cowboy and cowgirl contestants,
Madison Square Garden, 1946."
734
00:25:08,974 --> 00:25:10,876
GORDIE: The Madison
Square Garden Rodeo
735
00:25:10,943 --> 00:25:13,278
was the original national final.
736
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:17,983
It was when rodeo was becoming
a sport rather than a show.
737
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:21,153
GORDIE: I was there that year,
but I wasn't in that picture.
738
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:24,390
MIKE: This photo is
documenting a pivotal moment
739
00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:27,126
in the evolution of
the American rodeo.
740
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:29,495
It went from entertainment
into a sport.
741
00:25:29,561 --> 00:25:30,529
MIKE: So amazing.
742
00:25:30,596 --> 00:25:32,164
I mean, the more
you look at it,
743
00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:33,532
you know,
the more you see, like...
744
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:35,267
GORDIE: Well, you've
got all the bull‐riding,
745
00:25:35,334 --> 00:25:36,535
the bronc riding,
the steer roping...
746
00:25:36,602 --> 00:25:38,170
MIKE: This is Gene Autry?
GORDIE: That's Gene Autry.
747
00:25:38,237 --> 00:25:41,006
MIKE: Gene Autry was a singer,
a song‐writer, an actor,
748
00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:43,709
a musician, but what
a lot of people don't know,
749
00:25:43,776 --> 00:25:45,377
is the guy was a rodeo king.
750
00:25:45,444 --> 00:25:48,547
You know, he was a rodeo star,
he was the real deal.
751
00:25:48,614 --> 00:25:51,583
The fact that he's sitting
in the front row in this image,
752
00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:52,985
it takes it to the next level.
753
00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,287
MIKE: Now, would you
sell this photograph?
754
00:25:55,354 --> 00:25:57,589
GORDIE: Well, depends on
how much they gave me for it.
755
00:25:57,656 --> 00:25:58,690
MIKE: Um...
756
00:25:58,757 --> 00:26:00,626
250 bucks.
757
00:26:00,692 --> 00:26:01,994
GORDIE: 200 and...
758
00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:04,296
GORDIE: I'm gonna go to get
my pistol and flat his tire.
759
00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:06,532
[off‐camera laughter]
GORDIE: Golly...
760
00:26:06,598 --> 00:26:07,933
MIKE: What are you thinking?
761
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,134
GORDIE: 3?
762
00:26:09,201 --> 00:26:11,236
MIKE: 300?
763
00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:13,472
[exhales]
764
00:26:13,539 --> 00:26:15,908
Man...
765
00:26:15,974 --> 00:26:17,076
It's so epic.
766
00:26:17,142 --> 00:26:19,311
MIKE: To me,
this photo represents
767
00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:21,447
the celebration
of the American cowboy,
768
00:26:21,513 --> 00:26:23,515
their skills, their abilities,
769
00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:26,518
and also think about it,
it's 1946:
770
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:30,389
the War was just over in Europe,
it was a great time in America.
771
00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:32,891
MIKE: Alright, I'm doing 300.
I absolutely love it.
772
00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:34,693
GORDIE: Okay.
MIKE: I think it's brilliant.
773
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,395
MIKE: I love everything
about this photograph,
774
00:26:36,462 --> 00:26:38,464
from the subject matter,
to the time period,
775
00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:40,065
to the way they're dressed.
776
00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:43,068
It's a clear,
professional image
777
00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:45,437
that documents
such a huge event.
778
00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:47,072
MIKE: You've got
a pretty incredible memory.
779
00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:51,210
I love this.
780
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:54,379
MIKE: Oh, here you go.
781
00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:57,149
♪
782
00:26:57,216 --> 00:27:00,819
JB: A car of this quality is
gonna be close to $200,000.
783
00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:02,421
MEFFORD: Absolutely beautiful.
784
00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:05,057
What do you say, Robbie?
785
00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:06,458
ROBBIE: You're looking at me
like we're gonna buy it.
786
00:27:06,525 --> 00:27:07,826
MEFFORD: No,
like you're gonna buy it.
787
00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:10,329
ROBBIE: This thing's gorgeous.
788
00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:11,730
But no,
we're not gonna buy this.
789
00:27:11,797 --> 00:27:12,831
JB: Okay.
790
00:27:12,898 --> 00:27:15,067
ROBBIE: But I do have
to ask about that.
791
00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:17,202
JB: Oh, you have
a good eye, good man.
792
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:19,972
ROBBIE: Yeah.
JB: This is a US Royal.
793
00:27:20,038 --> 00:27:22,407
Fact is, I think pretty sure
this came off this building.
794
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:23,642
ROBBIE: Oh, really?
JB: Yeah.
795
00:27:23,709 --> 00:27:25,611
It was a tire
distribution warehouse.
796
00:27:25,677 --> 00:27:28,413
ROBBIE: It's one skin,
so it actually needed both sides
797
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,649
going together, so you
gotta build a can for it
798
00:27:30,716 --> 00:27:32,050
and then do the neon for it.
JB: Right, right, right, sure.
799
00:27:32,117 --> 00:27:34,620
ROBBIE: US Royal Tires
started in the early 1900s.
800
00:27:34,686 --> 00:27:36,221
They weren't just
automotive tires;
801
00:27:36,288 --> 00:27:38,023
they had their
hands in everything.
802
00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:40,325
The fact that it's neon
is a big plus.
803
00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:42,361
JB: You could do
a permanent repair on it.
804
00:27:42,427 --> 00:27:44,263
ROBBIE: Yeah,
it just needs a back.
805
00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,064
You're gonna lose a little
porcelain on it right there,
806
00:27:46,131 --> 00:27:48,267
but, you know, just to build
the can for it, but...
807
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:50,469
JB: Right.
808
00:27:50,536 --> 00:27:51,870
ROBBIE: What are you
thinking you gotta have?
809
00:27:51,937 --> 00:27:53,172
JB: Oof.
810
00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:55,340
Well, if it was just
a flat sign, it'd be different.
811
00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:57,242
But it's a neon, so...
ROBBIE: Right.
812
00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:59,344
JB: Probably
in the 3 grand area.
813
00:27:59,411 --> 00:28:02,447
ROBBIE: Once you build a can for
it and you put the neon on it,
814
00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:03,749
you're probably gonna be...
815
00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:05,350
JB: Another couple of grand?
816
00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:06,585
ROBBIE: Yeah.
And then...
817
00:28:06,652 --> 00:28:08,787
JB: And then what's
a really good fetch?
818
00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:10,322
ROBBIE: The last
one I seen sell,
819
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:13,192
probably right between
5 and 6,000, but...
820
00:28:13,258 --> 00:28:14,426
JB: Okay.
ROBBIE: ...that was mint.
821
00:28:14,493 --> 00:28:15,894
JB: Yeah.
Are you seriously interested?
822
00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:16,895
ROBBIE: Yeah.
823
00:28:16,962 --> 00:28:20,365
I'd be interested
in it for 1,700.
824
00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:23,535
JB: How about 2?
825
00:28:23,602 --> 00:28:26,371
♪
826
00:28:26,438 --> 00:28:28,874
ROBBIE: 1,750,
that's gonna be it.
827
00:28:28,941 --> 00:28:31,276
JB: That's it?
ROBBIE: That's it for me.
828
00:28:31,343 --> 00:28:33,812
Here, I'm sure you've
heard this a million times.
829
00:28:33,879 --> 00:28:37,282
You have to leave
a little meat on the bone.
830
00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:39,618
JB: It's just a question of
whose bone's leaving meat on,
831
00:28:39,685 --> 00:28:42,554
you know?
ROBBIE: [laughs]
832
00:28:42,621 --> 00:28:45,657
JB: Alright, I'll do it.
ROBBIE: Alright.
833
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,159
JB: Okay?
ROBBIE: Awesome.
834
00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:48,360
JB: Alright.
ROBBIE: Appreciate it.
835
00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:50,929
JB: Let's go.
ROBBIE: I'm following you.
836
00:28:50,996 --> 00:28:55,234
♪
837
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,536
♪
838
00:28:57,603 --> 00:28:59,771
MIKE: What year is this hat?
This one's...
839
00:28:59,838 --> 00:29:01,707
got some age to it
right here, man.
840
00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:03,141
Look at that sucker.
841
00:29:03,208 --> 00:29:05,811
GORDIE: That belonged to the guy
that kind of raised me, like.
842
00:29:05,877 --> 00:29:08,513
He was an Indian guy,
and his name,
843
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,416
Indian name, would
be Calago‐Wasaga.
844
00:29:11,483 --> 00:29:13,852
In English, it would mean
"Two Tall Pines."
845
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:18,423
MIKE: Danielle told me
that you lived on a reservation.
846
00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:20,125
GORDIE: I yeah,
I did for a while.
847
00:29:20,192 --> 00:29:22,861
When I was young
and I needed a place to live,
848
00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:26,898
so I lived with them
on and off for several years.
849
00:29:26,965 --> 00:29:29,534
They became as‐‐
almost like family to me.
850
00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:30,636
MIKE: Yeah.
851
00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:33,005
So the gentleman
that owned this hat...
852
00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:34,172
GORDIE: Yeah, he was...
853
00:29:34,239 --> 00:29:35,374
MIKE: ...was someone
that you looked up to?
854
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,842
GORDIE: Yeah.
855
00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:39,645
His daughter was a girl that I
used to go with and everything.
856
00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:42,781
Her name was Gaji‐jawak.
MIKE: Okay.
857
00:29:42,848 --> 00:29:45,250
GORDIE: That means
"The Shaken Flower."
858
00:29:45,317 --> 00:29:46,585
MIKE: Beautiful.
859
00:29:46,652 --> 00:29:48,954
GORDIE: We left the reservation,
hopped a freight train.
860
00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:51,757
We ended up in a box car
with hay in it,
861
00:29:51,823 --> 00:29:53,992
and that was hay
to feed the animals
862
00:29:54,059 --> 00:29:55,594
for a Wild West Show.
MIKE: Wow.
863
00:29:55,661 --> 00:29:58,096
GORDIE: They said, "You got
a free ride, go to work."
864
00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:01,600
MIKE: No way, so the train
took you to the Wild West Show.
865
00:30:01,667 --> 00:30:03,969
GORDIE: Yes, sir.
866
00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:06,638
There's a picture right
over there of Rex Rossi.
867
00:30:06,705 --> 00:30:08,473
He was in that Wild West Show.
868
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:13,111
Rex Rossi's the one that took
me out there to Hollywood.
869
00:30:13,178 --> 00:30:16,181
MIKE: Gordie was destined
for greatness long before
870
00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:18,116
he was ever a stuntman.
871
00:30:18,183 --> 00:30:21,653
It was almost like his
path was chosen for him.
872
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,090
His life reads like
a Hollywood movie script.
873
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:28,393
He's one of most authentic,
fascinating people
874
00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:30,295
I have ever met.
875
00:30:30,362 --> 00:30:31,730
GORDIE: You want
to look back here?
876
00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:35,767
MIKE: Hell, yeah.
877
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,370
What's in here?
GORDIE: That's all gun parts.
878
00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:40,572
MIKE: Gun parts.
Okay.
879
00:30:40,639 --> 00:30:42,941
Did you have these on display
for a while somewhere?
880
00:30:43,008 --> 00:30:44,242
GORDIE: Yep.
881
00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:46,011
They've been on display
in several different places.
882
00:30:46,078 --> 00:30:47,212
MIKE: Wow.
883
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:48,680
MIKE: This stuff is incredible.
884
00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:50,349
Whoa!
Look at that.
885
00:30:50,415 --> 00:30:52,417
GORDIE: Those are all vests that
I wore for different shows...
886
00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:54,252
MIKE: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I gotcha.
887
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:55,754
Oh, here you go.
888
00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:57,456
What kind of age
does that have?
889
00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:00,359
GORDIE: Duncan Renaldo
gave that to me.
890
00:31:00,425 --> 00:31:02,661
MIKE: The Cisco Kid,
the guy that played Cisco Kid?
891
00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:05,330
GORDIE: Yeah.
892
00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:06,598
MIKE: Whoa!
893
00:31:06,665 --> 00:31:08,900
MIKE: People might not know
who Duncan Renaldo is,
894
00:31:08,967 --> 00:31:11,169
but they know
who the Cisco Kid is.
895
00:31:11,236 --> 00:31:13,772
I mean, he was huge
in the 1950s; there was movies,
896
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,875
there was radio shows,
TV shows, comic books...
897
00:31:16,942 --> 00:31:18,110
I mean, this stuff is epic.
898
00:31:18,176 --> 00:31:21,213
This is a great piece of
Western movie memorabilia.
899
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,682
MIKE: Would you sell this
for the right money?
900
00:31:23,749 --> 00:31:26,451
GORDIE: He's got a jacket there
that have been hanging there,
901
00:31:26,518 --> 00:31:28,086
and I've been looking
at it for years.
902
00:31:28,153 --> 00:31:31,623
And I've had several people
that's tried to buy it before.
903
00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:33,692
Well, it's time.
904
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,728
GORDIE: What's the right money?
905
00:31:36,795 --> 00:31:37,896
MIKE: Did he say
this was something
906
00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:40,298
that he wore in a movie?
GORDIE: I don't know.
907
00:31:40,365 --> 00:31:42,768
I can't tell you that
he did wear it in a movie.
908
00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:44,102
MIKE: Yeah.
909
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:45,737
500.
910
00:31:45,804 --> 00:31:46,972
GORDIE: No.
911
00:31:47,038 --> 00:31:48,840
With them buttons on there,
you know,
912
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:50,842
that's unusual like that.
MIKE: Um‐hm.
913
00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:52,444
GORDIE: Yeah, it's gotta
be worth 200 more,
914
00:31:52,511 --> 00:31:53,745
'cause you bought it two ways.
915
00:31:53,812 --> 00:31:55,213
100 each way.
MIKE: [chuckles]
916
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,750
Double buttons,
double the money, huh?
917
00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:00,185
Oh, yeah.
918
00:32:00,252 --> 00:32:02,287
GORDIE: Daggummit, it fits too!
MIKE: Damn.
919
00:32:02,354 --> 00:32:04,523
GORDIE: That's worth
another 50 bucks.
920
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:05,857
MIKE: [laughs]
921
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:08,760
MIKE: A piece of clothing
of someone's is so personal,
922
00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:11,430
'cause it gets into
their stature and their style.
923
00:32:11,496 --> 00:32:12,597
He wore this.
924
00:32:12,664 --> 00:32:14,433
MIKE: 550.
925
00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:16,868
GORDIE: He was
a pain in the butt.
926
00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:19,604
GORDIE: 60.
[laughs]
927
00:32:19,671 --> 00:32:21,506
MIKE: [chuckles]
Alright.
928
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:22,908
GORDIE: I gotta be the winner!
929
00:32:22,974 --> 00:32:25,811
MIKE: This is a piece
of a part of America
930
00:32:25,877 --> 00:32:32,584
that's never
gonna come again, man.
931
00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:36,822
MEFFORD: Oh, God!
Look at that, Rob.
932
00:32:36,888 --> 00:32:40,759
♪
933
00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:42,327
JB: Okay, we got a lot
more stuff in here.
934
00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:44,796
ROBBIE: Alright.
935
00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:46,298
MEFFORD: Oh, God!
Look at that, Rob.
936
00:32:46,364 --> 00:32:48,400
ROBBIE: Look at this thing.
What the heck is this?
937
00:32:48,467 --> 00:32:50,402
JB: It was a carnival ride
from the '20s or '30s.
938
00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:52,404
MEFFORD: Oh...
Where did you find this?
939
00:32:52,471 --> 00:32:55,106
JB: It was at an old carnival,
and this thing just jumped out
940
00:32:55,173 --> 00:32:56,775
at me and said,
"Take me home."
941
00:32:56,842 --> 00:32:58,043
ROBBIE: Look at
the bottom of it.
942
00:32:58,109 --> 00:32:59,344
JB: "Save me, save me!"
943
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:01,613
MEFFORD: Oh... yeah.
ROBBIE: Look at these hinges.
944
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,782
ROBBIE: It screams "cool"
because of all the rivets on it.
945
00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:05,050
And it was all rounded out.
946
00:33:05,116 --> 00:33:08,320
It even had two exhaust ports
like it was a spaceship.
947
00:33:08,386 --> 00:33:09,988
JB: Everything about it
is difficult,
948
00:33:10,055 --> 00:33:11,823
complicated,
and beautifully styled.
949
00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:14,226
Somebody needs to appreciate
this for what it is.
950
00:33:14,292 --> 00:33:17,496
ROBBIE: So, what's that
appreciating price?
951
00:33:17,562 --> 00:33:20,332
JB: The appreciating price...
952
00:33:20,398 --> 00:33:21,900
Da‐da‐da‐dah...
953
00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:23,735
is...
954
00:33:23,802 --> 00:33:27,506
$1,200.
955
00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:29,241
ROBBIE: It is a killer piece.
JB: It really is.
956
00:33:29,307 --> 00:33:32,210
ROBBIE: But I don't think
the end user would be
957
00:33:32,277 --> 00:33:33,578
in those numbers.
JB: Really?
958
00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:34,946
ROBBIE: Yeah.
JB: Okay.
959
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:36,047
ROBBIE: I mean,
that's the only thing.
960
00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:37,349
JB: Where would you need to be?
961
00:33:37,415 --> 00:33:39,284
ROBBIE: We sell these
in the store, I mean,
962
00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:41,453
really nice rocket ones,
the aluminium ones
963
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,921
that have guns
and stuff on them.
964
00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:44,189
JB: Yeah.
ROBBIE: We might get
965
00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:45,657
6 to 800 out of those.
JB: Really?
966
00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:48,727
ROBBIE: Yeah.
I don't want to insult ya.
967
00:33:48,793 --> 00:33:51,396
JB: Insult me.
968
00:33:51,463 --> 00:33:54,799
ROBBIE: 400 bucks.
969
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:56,902
JB: Okay.
MEFFORD: Wow.
970
00:33:56,968 --> 00:33:59,771
JB: Everybody always thinks your
stuff's worth more than it is.
971
00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:01,072
But when you're
selling something,
972
00:34:01,139 --> 00:34:02,240
you have to shift gears.
973
00:34:02,307 --> 00:34:03,608
JB: Okay, you got it.
974
00:34:03,675 --> 00:34:06,845
JB: Everybody has
to come away with something.
975
00:34:06,912 --> 00:34:10,582
♪
976
00:34:10,649 --> 00:34:15,520
♪
977
00:34:15,587 --> 00:34:18,657
♪
978
00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:21,326
MEFFORD: How about this one?
JB: Oh my god, look at this!
979
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:23,161
MEFFORD: Now, is this
something for sale, or no?
980
00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:26,064
JB: Oh, geez!
Ay‐yai‐yai.
981
00:34:26,131 --> 00:34:27,866
MEFFORD: I...
I could go 2,200.
982
00:34:30,201 --> 00:34:31,269
JB: I'm gonna hang onto it.
983
00:34:31,336 --> 00:34:32,604
I'll probably restore it.
MEFFORD: Okay.
984
00:34:32,671 --> 00:34:34,839
JB: But you're right.
I mean, your offer is fair.
985
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:37,175
JB: The difference between
these guys and other people
986
00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:40,145
I deal with is that you can
look them in the eye and say,
987
00:34:40,211 --> 00:34:42,147
"What's the best
retail on this?"
988
00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:44,316
And he will not be kidding you;
he will not be lying.
989
00:34:44,382 --> 00:34:46,952
It's really a refreshing
experience, honestly,
990
00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:48,653
to deal with honest people.
991
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,956
There's not a whole lot
of them left out there.
992
00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:52,223
[laughs]
993
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:54,025
ROBBIE: I found this
on the bottom shelf.
994
00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:55,126
JB: Oh!
995
00:34:55,193 --> 00:34:56,528
ROBBIE: What's
the story behind it?
996
00:34:56,595 --> 00:34:59,931
JB: This is a pedal car
based on a Mercedes race car.
997
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:03,068
ROBBIE: It doesn't have
the original drive train on it.
998
00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:04,202
JB: No.
999
00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:05,770
ROBBIE: Yeah, I mean
on the bottom...
1000
00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:08,139
JB: It's got most of the...
the bottom.
1001
00:35:08,206 --> 00:35:10,108
ROBBIE: Yeah.
1002
00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:11,509
ROBBIE: Pedal cars
are big money.
1003
00:35:11,576 --> 00:35:14,479
Problem is, the drive train
did not look right.
1004
00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:15,981
ROBBIE: That looks
damaged in there.
1005
00:35:16,047 --> 00:35:17,382
That is all...
JB: Right.
1006
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,050
ROBBIE: So this would
have gone down like...
1007
00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:20,185
ROBBIE: It needs a lot of work.
1008
00:35:20,251 --> 00:35:21,853
JB: I would say it's
worth a couple of grand.
1009
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,522
You know, it's just a beautiful
piece of automotive art.
1010
00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:26,324
ROBBIE: Honestly, I think
the person that at the end
1011
00:35:26,391 --> 00:35:28,360
of the rainbow's gonna
want this thing restored.
1012
00:35:28,426 --> 00:35:29,628
JB: Right.
ROBBIE: And at 2 grand,
1013
00:35:29,694 --> 00:35:32,697
I think it's above where
we would want to be in it...
1014
00:35:32,764 --> 00:35:34,065
JB: Okay, I got it.
1015
00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:35,533
ROBBIE: ...because then by
the time we put money into it
1016
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,901
and got things done to it...
JB: Sure.
1017
00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:38,870
ROBBIE: I love the piece.
It's absolutely gorgeous.
1018
00:35:38,937 --> 00:35:41,973
ROBBIE: He's not there, ready
to sell a lot of this stuff.
1019
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,776
MEFFORD: 650?
1020
00:35:44,843 --> 00:35:45,810
JB: Boy...
1021
00:35:45,877 --> 00:35:48,179
If Walker was here,
you'd own it.
1022
00:35:48,246 --> 00:35:49,581
ROBBIE: And I can
understand that.
1023
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,349
Hopefully he makes
the phone call to us
1024
00:35:51,416 --> 00:35:52,884
when he's ready
to sell that stuff.
1025
00:35:52,951 --> 00:35:54,819
JB: Adios!
ROBBIE: Man...
1026
00:35:54,886 --> 00:35:56,454
Look at that thing
just fits in there.
1027
00:35:56,521 --> 00:35:57,822
MEFFORD: Ah, it fits perfect.
1028
00:35:57,889 --> 00:36:00,525
MEFFORD: What I loved about
the whole thing is meeting JB
1029
00:36:00,592 --> 00:36:01,726
and his son, Walker.
1030
00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:03,094
JB: You take care
of her, alright?
1031
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:04,729
MEFFORD: Oh, I will, bud.
JB: Okay.
1032
00:36:04,796 --> 00:36:07,632
MEFFORD: He's still working
his business at 72 years old.
1033
00:36:07,699 --> 00:36:09,467
And I really respect that.
1034
00:36:09,534 --> 00:36:11,736
ROBBIE: Come see us in Iowa.
JB: We will, we will.
1035
00:36:11,803 --> 00:36:12,871
MEFFORD: Come see me
in Columbia.
1036
00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:14,205
JB: Okay.
ROBBIE: Yeah.
1037
00:36:14,272 --> 00:36:15,573
MEFFORD: That was great.
JB: It's good to meet you guys.
1038
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,775
MEFFORD: And thanks for racer.
ROBBIE: Thank you so much.
1039
00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:17,909
JB: You're very welcome.
MEFFORD: I appreciate it.
1040
00:36:17,976 --> 00:36:19,277
JB: Give it a good home.
MEFFORD: Okay, I will.
1041
00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:20,345
JB: Alright.
1042
00:36:20,412 --> 00:36:21,713
JB: People are what
this is all about.
1043
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,181
It's not cars;
it's not signs;
1044
00:36:23,248 --> 00:36:25,483
it's not their stuff.
It's them.
1045
00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:27,385
And that's the important
message I think.
1046
00:36:27,452 --> 00:36:28,953
[Robbie honks horn]
1047
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:31,423
MEFFORD: See ya later, JB!
ROBBIE: Adios, woo, amigos!
1048
00:36:31,489 --> 00:36:33,858
JB: Dude!
[laughs]
1049
00:36:33,925 --> 00:36:38,630
♪
1050
00:36:38,697 --> 00:36:41,433
MIKE: Is this photo original?
GORDIE: Yeah.
1051
00:36:41,499 --> 00:36:43,401
♪
1052
00:36:43,468 --> 00:36:44,436
MIKE: Yeah, look at that.
1053
00:36:44,502 --> 00:36:46,004
Not too bad,
that's all cracked up.
1054
00:36:46,071 --> 00:36:48,273
MIKE: Gordie is 92 years old.
1055
00:36:48,339 --> 00:36:50,208
He knew the life
he was living
1056
00:36:50,275 --> 00:36:53,678
was above and beyond
anything he could imagine.
1057
00:36:53,745 --> 00:36:57,449
So he documented it like he was
trying to prove to himself
1058
00:36:57,515 --> 00:36:58,917
that it wasn't all a dream.
1059
00:36:58,983 --> 00:37:01,586
MIKE: What about this photo,
I saw this.
1060
00:37:01,653 --> 00:37:04,456
GORDIE: That's another one of
them Madison Square Garden deal.
1061
00:37:04,522 --> 00:37:05,657
MIKE: I know.
1062
00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:07,659
And this one's got
extra stuff with it here.
1063
00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:09,527
GORDIE: Yeah,
that's the PRCA:
1064
00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:11,830
Professional
Cowboys Association.
1065
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:13,665
MIKE: How about that?
Would you sell this one?
1066
00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:15,400
GORDIE: Okay.
500.
1067
00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:17,268
MIKE: 500?
1068
00:37:17,335 --> 00:37:19,871
Alright.
1069
00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:21,873
500.
We're doing it.
1070
00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:23,641
GORDIE: You're too
easy to get along with.
1071
00:37:23,708 --> 00:37:26,845
MIKE: [chuckles]
1072
00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:29,814
♪
1073
00:37:29,881 --> 00:37:32,450
♪
1074
00:37:32,517 --> 00:37:34,452
MIKE: Did you ever
ride in the rodeo?
1075
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:35,720
GORDIE: Yeah.
1076
00:37:35,787 --> 00:37:37,889
GORDIE: I was clowning
and broke my leg.
1077
00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:42,127
You did comedy stuff in the
arena but you bull‐fought too.
1078
00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:44,996
You drew the bull off the rider
when he got bucked off,
1079
00:37:45,063 --> 00:37:47,499
so that the bull
didn't catch the rider.
1080
00:37:47,565 --> 00:37:50,034
And you were on your feet
and the object was
1081
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:52,170
is to outmanoeuvre them
and outsmart them.
1082
00:37:52,237 --> 00:37:53,905
And sometimes you got caught.
1083
00:37:53,972 --> 00:37:57,475
GORDIE: I have a titanium hip
now today because of that.
1084
00:37:57,542 --> 00:37:59,344
MIKE: Is this photo original?
GORDIE: Yeah.
1085
00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:01,045
That's an old roll‐out.
1086
00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:03,014
You see it's been weathered.
MIKE: Yeah.
1087
00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:05,116
GORDIE: And I salvaged it
to try to save...
1088
00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:06,251
MIKE: You did a good job.
1089
00:38:06,317 --> 00:38:07,619
I mean, I'll tell you what,
a lot of people
1090
00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:10,321
would have tossed it.
Here's another one.
1091
00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:12,857
MIKE: What Gordie calls
a roll‐out, I call a yard‐long.
1092
00:38:12,924 --> 00:38:16,127
And these are some of
the most impressive photographs
1093
00:38:16,194 --> 00:38:17,462
that I've ever seen.
1094
00:38:17,529 --> 00:38:20,431
MIKE: Yorkton Rodeo
and Stampede 1934.
1095
00:38:20,498 --> 00:38:22,200
That's 1925.
1096
00:38:22,267 --> 00:38:24,002
Adam's Rodeo Company.
1097
00:38:24,068 --> 00:38:25,537
GORDIE: That one's 1930.
1098
00:38:25,603 --> 00:38:27,872
MIKE: These are images
of Wild West Shows
1099
00:38:27,939 --> 00:38:32,210
that go all the way back
to 1925 up into the 1930s.
1100
00:38:32,277 --> 00:38:33,478
MIKE: You've had to be
collecting these
1101
00:38:33,545 --> 00:38:34,813
for a really long time.
1102
00:38:34,879 --> 00:38:36,681
MIKE: These shows were presented
1103
00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:38,650
as if they were
the essence of the West.
1104
00:38:38,716 --> 00:38:41,920
I mean, these were real cowboys
and real Native Americans.
1105
00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:45,056
GORDIE: They did this
photography in a lot of rodeos.
1106
00:38:45,123 --> 00:38:47,725
MIKE: Oh my god, yeah, I've got
yard‐longs of motorcycle clubs
1107
00:38:47,792 --> 00:38:49,694
from the same time period.
GORDIE: Um‐hm.
1108
00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:50,995
MIKE: I mean,
but obviously with this,
1109
00:38:51,062 --> 00:38:52,831
the subject matter
is really incredible.
1110
00:38:52,897 --> 00:38:54,098
GORDIE: Um‐hm.
1111
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:56,100
MIKE: Native Americans
and cowboys were hired to do
1112
00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:58,803
trick riding, shooting,
rope tricks,
1113
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:01,439
living dioramas
of cowboy campfires,
1114
00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:03,408
reenactments of famous battles.
1115
00:39:03,474 --> 00:39:04,709
MIKE: Oh, this is Iowa!
1116
00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:06,644
Des Moines, Iowa.
GORDIE: Yeah.
1117
00:39:06,711 --> 00:39:08,112
MIKE: Look at that, 1930.
1118
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,614
These are Iowa, baby.
1119
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,783
MIKE: By this time,
a lot of Native Americans
1120
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,351
were living on reservations
1121
00:39:13,418 --> 00:39:15,286
where there wasn't
a lot of opportunity.
1122
00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:16,955
As exploitative
as these shows were,
1123
00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:19,324
they signed on
to get off the reservation
1124
00:39:19,390 --> 00:39:21,226
and for the chance
at a better future.
1125
00:39:21,292 --> 00:39:24,229
The dark side of this
is that it exploited the image
1126
00:39:24,295 --> 00:39:26,831
of the Native Americans
to the American people.
1127
00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:32,036
♪
1128
00:39:32,103 --> 00:39:36,941
♪
1129
00:39:37,008 --> 00:39:40,812
♪
1130
00:39:40,879 --> 00:39:42,547
MIKE: I mean, I'm interested
in all of these, man.
1131
00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,115
GORDIE: Haul them in here.
1132
00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:45,350
MIKE: Alright, let me see.
1133
00:39:45,416 --> 00:39:47,318
MIKE: At the time these
photographs were taken,
1134
00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:50,922
the Wild West that we
romanticized was basically gone.
1135
00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:54,025
MIKE: Okay, so this one's
obviously got some damage in it.
1136
00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:56,461
There's a big
water line through here.
1137
00:39:56,527 --> 00:39:57,929
GORDIE: Forget about
the water damage,
1138
00:39:57,996 --> 00:39:59,497
just look at that coliseum.
1139
00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:00,899
MIKE: The subject
matter's amazing.
1140
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,467
I mean, the subject
matter's great.
1141
00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:03,902
GORDIE: That's absolutely right.
1142
00:40:03,968 --> 00:40:07,672
MIKE: The main subject of these
photos, the troop, the cowboys,
1143
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:10,408
the Native Americans,
is incredibly impressive.
1144
00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:13,544
But when you look
behind them in the stands,
1145
00:40:13,611 --> 00:40:16,447
there are, so, so many people.
1146
00:40:16,514 --> 00:40:18,416
MIKE: It's incredible, right?
GORDIE: It's sold out.
1147
00:40:18,483 --> 00:40:21,185
MIKE: The want, the need,
like where did that come from?
1148
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:24,622
If you go to the root of it,
it was Roosevelt, man.
1149
00:40:24,689 --> 00:40:27,525
When Teddy Roosevelt hit
the dirt in Washington DC,
1150
00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:29,093
the West opened up.
1151
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,363
One of the things he did was
establish the National Parks.
1152
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,799
MIKE: Roads were established,
cars were better,
1153
00:40:34,866 --> 00:40:37,502
and a lot of Americans were
travelling to experience
1154
00:40:37,568 --> 00:40:40,204
for themselves what
they saw on the big screen
1155
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:43,107
or what they read in a book
or heard on the radio.
1156
00:40:43,174 --> 00:40:46,544
MIKE: How about...
for these,
1157
00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:50,048
1,800.
1158
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:53,484
GORDIE: I was gonna
whip his butt.
1159
00:40:53,551 --> 00:40:54,752
Getting crotchety.
1160
00:40:54,819 --> 00:40:57,555
[laughs]
1161
00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:58,556
GORDIE: Okay.
1162
00:40:58,623 --> 00:40:59,757
MIKE: So, we'll do
1,800 for these.
1163
00:40:59,824 --> 00:41:02,060
MIKE: Gordie's life
was like a movie.
1164
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:06,064
Raised on a reservation, freight
hopping trains across America,
1165
00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:09,534
which led him to the circus,
his life as a cowboy,
1166
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,570
and finally,
his career as a stuntman.
1167
00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:13,905
MIKE: I'm gonna
cherish this piece.
1168
00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:15,106
GORDIE: [laughs]
MIKE: Seriously.
1169
00:41:15,173 --> 00:41:16,674
It's incredible.
It really is.
1170
00:41:16,741 --> 00:41:18,242
GORDIE: You know, I'll
probably get shot over that.
1171
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:21,179
MIKE: All of this,
at a time in America
1172
00:41:21,245 --> 00:41:24,015
that will never happen again.
1173
00:41:24,082 --> 00:41:26,985
To say it was an honour
to spend time with him
1174
00:41:27,051 --> 00:41:29,354
would be an understatement.
1175
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:30,722
GORDIE: Mwah!
[laughs]
1176
00:41:30,788 --> 00:41:33,624
MIKE: I appreciate you
spending your day with me.
1177
00:41:33,691 --> 00:41:34,892
I mean that.
1178
00:41:34,959 --> 00:41:36,227
GORDIE: Well, thank you.
Thank you.
1179
00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:37,795
MIKE: Thank you.
I'll see you down the trail.
1180
00:41:37,862 --> 00:41:39,063
GORDIE: Keep a good thought.
MIKE: Thank you.
1181
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:41,566
GORDIE: We will
continue to do this here,
1182
00:41:41,632 --> 00:41:43,468
and there might
be people that say,
1183
00:41:43,534 --> 00:41:46,270
"Well, I remember Gordie Peer.
1184
00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:50,375
"And I'm just thankful he gave
me this old pair of boots."
1185
00:41:50,441 --> 00:41:52,410
[Mike honks horn]
See ya, Gordie!
1186
00:41:52,477 --> 00:41:55,046
GORDIE: Have a good one.
Happy trails!
1187
00:41:55,113 --> 00:41:58,082
GORDIE: Hi‐ho Silver, away!
MIKE: [laughs]
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