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- The flaming trumpet.
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Once when I was in junior high school,
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preparing to perform in
the school talent show,
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my father asked me if I thought
it would be a good effect
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to have fire shooting out
of the trumpet as I played.
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(trumpet jazz music)
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Of course, I had to admit
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that that would indeed be very impressive.
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He then went into his workshop
and began tinkering around.
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(trumpet jazz music)
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And by the very next day,
I found myself holding
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in my hands a flaming trumpet.
And by the very next day,
I found myself holding
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in my hands a flaming trumpet.
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(cheerful piano music)
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- Who's Claude Shannon?
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- Who's Claude Shannon?
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- Claude Shannon?
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- You're asking me this question?
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- I often go back to this...
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Well, you've probably heard the word bit.
- I often go back to this...
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Well, you've probably heard the word bit.
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- We live in the information age
Well, you've probably heard the word bit.
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- We live in the information age
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and he's the father of
the information theory.
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- Doesn't everybody know
who Claude Shannon is?
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- If you value the fact
that your iPhone can contact
- Doesn't everybody know
who Claude Shannon is?
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- If you value the fact
that your iPhone can contact
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and call for you an Uber,
and then place a phone call,
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and then text a friend,
and then check your email,
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all of those things you owe to
Claude Shannon and his work.
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- I truly believe he's at the same level
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as Newton or Einstein.
- I truly believe he's at the same level
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as Newton or Einstein.
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- Why don't people know about him?
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They know about Alexander Graham Bell,
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they know about Henry Ford,
but so few people have heard
They know about Alexander Graham Bell,
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they know about Henry Ford,
but so few people have heard
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of Claude Shannon, and his
impact is bigger than all
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of the household names.
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- I didn't know that that was one person,
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and whoever that one person was
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is probably the most
important person in our time.
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- What would the world look like
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if Claude Shannon hadn't done what he did?
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(piano key boings)
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(gentle instrumental music)
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- By the 1980s, the revolution
(gentle instrumental music)
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- By the 1980s, the revolution
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that he started is in full swing,
- By the 1980s, the revolution
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that he started is in full swing,
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but he is nowhere to be found.
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He's a founding father,
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but he's a distant historical figure,
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sort of like George Washington.
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And nobody really knows what he's doing.
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(gentle instrumental music)
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(Claude clears throat)
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- Is this where
you want me to sit?
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- Yes, please.
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Let's see...
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- Here we go.
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- Thank you again for agreeing
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to see me, Dr. Shannon.
- Thank you again for agreeing
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to see me, Dr. Shannon.
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This is an amazing room.
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- I guess it must seem
pretty funny a grown man
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has a room full of toys. (chuckles)
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My life's work. (laughs)
has a room full of toys. (chuckles)
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My life's work. (laughs)
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- I don't
think you need to worry
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about just being remembered for your toys.
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- Claude doesn't overly worry
about how he'll be remembered.
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- No.
- Claude doesn't overly worry
about how he'll be remembered.
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- No.
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How'd you uncover me again, Michelle?
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- As I said
on the phone, I'm working
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on a project about the
founders of the modern age,
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and I kept seeing over and over again,
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"Claude Shannon, the father
of Information Theory."
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(Claude chuckles)
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But nobody seemed to know
what you're doing now.
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Your 1948 paper was a blueprint
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for what people are calling
The Information Age.
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- Well, I wrote that nearly 40 years ago.
for what people are calling
The Information Age.
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- Well, I wrote that nearly 40 years ago.
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- Yes.
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In a sense you saw the future.
- Yes.
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In a sense you saw the future.
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How did you do that?
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(Betty chuckles)
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(Claude chuckles)
(Betty chuckles)
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(Claude chuckles)
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- How long do you plan on being here?
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(Claude and Betty laugh)
- How long do you plan on being here?
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(Claude and Betty laugh)
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- Maybe I should get some coffee.
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- Oh, good.
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(Claude and Betty laugh)
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The fact is, Michelle,
that my mind wanders around
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and conceives of different
things day and night.
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Well, like a science
fiction writer, I think,
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"What if it were like this?"
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And I never particularly cared
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whether anybody was interested
in it or wanted to work on it
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or thought I was right.
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(dramatic music)
or thought I was right.
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(dramatic music)
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I was always interested in
communication things, whether
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or not people thought that's
what I should be working on.
I was always interested in
communication things, whether
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or not people thought that's
what I should be working on.
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(dramatic music)
or not people thought that's
what I should be working on.
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(dramatic music)
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(man shouts)
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- Shannon
thought about the problem
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of communication in a way that nobody else
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had ever thought of.
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The basic problem is
how do you get a message
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from one place to another?
The basic problem is
how do you get a message
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from one place to another?
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The challenge was always how to go faster,
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how to go farther, and
how to be more accurate.
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(horse neighs)
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The huge advance was the discovery
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of how to use electricity to communicate.
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(phone ringing)
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- Hello?
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Hello?
- Hello?
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Hello?
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- But initially it was very unreliable,
Hello?
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- But initially it was very unreliable,
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and efforts to improve
things were just haphazard.
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And then, Shannon came
along and asked a question
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that hadn't even occurred to anyone,
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"Could you construct a universal
theory of communication
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"that could allow perfect communication?"
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He drew a very simple diagram.
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You have some information you wanna send
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and you have to convert it
into something like sound waves
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or electrical pulses or
light that can be sent
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over a channel or medium,
like air or wires.
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There's things that can disrupt
the signal on that medium,
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like static or smoke or noise
There's things that can disrupt
the signal on that medium,
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like static or smoke or noise
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before it gets to the receiver.
like static or smoke or noise
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before it gets to the receiver.
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And then the receiver
converts the signal back
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into something that's
hopefully really close
And then the receiver
converts the signal back
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into something that's
hopefully really close
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to the original message.
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The diagram looked trivial,
but it allowed Shannon
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to break the problem of communication down
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into its essential parts and
create a universal theory
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that you can apply to anything you want.
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- This is a calculator I
built to do calculations
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with Roman numerals.
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I call it THROBAC:
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Thrifty Roman Numeral
Backward Looking Computer.
I call it THROBAC:
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Thrifty Roman Numeral
Backward Looking Computer.
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- Did you
make that here at MIT?
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- No, I made it when I
was at Bell Laboratories
- Did you
make that here at MIT?
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- No, I made it when I
was at Bell Laboratories
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when I should've been working
on communication things.
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- It didn't have a big commercial market.
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(Claude chuckles)
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- There are some important things
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that made Claude Shannon the thinker
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and the mind that he was.
that made Claude Shannon the thinker
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and the mind that he was.
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I believe it was important that he grew up
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in Gaylord, Michigan, I
think it was important
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that he came of age in the Midwest,
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and I think it was equally
important that he came of age
that he came of age in the Midwest,
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and I think it was equally
important that he came of age
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in a town that built things,
where a boy like him could,
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with his best friend, go
to his friend's backyard
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and build an elevator in a barn.
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- My mother was a principal
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at the high school.
- My mother was a principal
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at the high school.
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My father had a bunch of jobs.
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He had a furniture store.
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He was a probate judge.
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And he was also an undertaker.
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He got me an erector set.
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It's still one of my favorite toys.
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My grandfather was a very
interesting character,
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he was always inventing things.
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He was intent on determining if the turn
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of the century was 1900 or 1901.
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I was very impressed he spent so much time
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on something most people
thought was totally useless.
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(cheerful pianola music)
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- So, would you
say your first experiment
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in communication was a failure?
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- No, but
there was a lot of noise
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on the line.
- No, but
there was a lot of noise
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on the line.
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- Motivation to
come up with something better?
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- A little error could turn
- Motivation to
come up with something better?
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- A little error could turn
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"Do you like me?" into "Do you hear me?"
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And which she was answering
was very important to me.
"Do you like me?" into "Do you hear me?"
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And which she was answering
was very important to me.
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- So, you used Morse code?
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- Oh, you bet.
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Morse already invented the binary code,
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with dots and dashes, and he
had the great idea of going
Morse already invented the binary code,
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with dots and dashes, and he
had the great idea of going
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to a print shop to find out
which letters we use the most.
with dots and dashes, and he
had the great idea of going
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to a print shop to find out
which letters we use the most.
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E, the most common letter,
gets the shortest code, dot.
to a print shop to find out
which letters we use the most.
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E, the most common letter,
gets the shortest code, dot.
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T, the second most common,
gets the dash, and so on.
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Exactly the sort of things I was thinking
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about 100 years later.
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- He had what we would probably call now
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a free range childhood,
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even though there wasn't
really a term for it back
a free range childhood,
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even though there wasn't
really a term for it back
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in the 1910s and '20s;
but these were things
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like rigging up a barbed wire telegraph
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to connect his house
to his neighbors house
like rigging up a barbed wire telegraph
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to connect his house
to his neighbors house
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along the fences, things like
learning wigwag signaling,
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which is the idea of sending
Morse code with flags
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so that your body kind of becomes a sort
which is the idea of sending
Morse code with flags
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so that your body kind of becomes a sort
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of Morse code telegraph,
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things like solving math puzzles.
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Shannon's favorite story growing up
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was Edgar Allan Poe's "The Goldbug."
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(gentle clavichord music)
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- Poe loved codes and
cryptography, just like me.
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He even invited his readers
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to send him their own
cryptograms that he'd solve.
He even invited his readers
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to send him their own
cryptograms that he'd solve.
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In "The Goldbug," a man
finds a scrap of paper
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with a coded message that
tells where the pirate,
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Captain Kidd, buried his treasure.
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(gentle instrumental music)
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The message is written
in invisible ink though
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and only appears when
it's held up to a flame.
The message is written
in invisible ink though
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and only appears when
it's held up to a flame.
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Poe shows how you can break the code
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by connecting the most used symbols
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to the most used letters in English.
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It's just like Morse did, in reverse.
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Just like Alan Turing
did, too, during the war,
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looking for patterns to
break the German codes.
Just like Alan Turing
did, too, during the war,
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looking for patterns to
break the German codes.
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Finding patterns, that's the key.
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- The foremost characteristic
of my father was playfulness.
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Play infused everything he did.
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And you can see that in
all the machines he made,
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like, who makes a flaming trumpet?
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Making a chair lift to go
down to lake and come back,
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that was a playful thing that
he did with Marvin Minsky.
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Nothing was sacred.
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My brother, Andrew, had an idea
for a rocket-powered Frisbee
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and my father loved that.
My brother, Andrew, had an idea
for a rocket-powered Frisbee
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and my father loved that.
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(Frisbee buzzing)
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If we had a tray of coffee cake, somebody,
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if they were cutting a piece,
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they usually wouldn't
cut a piece off the end,
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they would cut a piece out of the middle.
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And they might cut it out
in an interesting shape,
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it wouldn't just be a square.
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It might be an octagon,
it might be a pentagon,
it wouldn't just be a square.
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It might be an octagon,
it might be a pentagon,
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something like that.
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He tried to fool with
everything a little bit
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and see if he could make it more fun.
He tried to fool with
everything a little bit
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and see if he could make it more fun.
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- I was a big fan of "Alice in Wonderland"
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and "Through the Looking-Glass."
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You know, Lewis Carroll
was a mathematician, too.
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(rabbit sneezes)
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Wonderland is full of word games and codes
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and mathematical ideas.
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"Through the Looking" is
almost like a big chess game
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with crazy rules of logic.
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- Stop, stop, stop,
stop, stop, stop, stop.
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- Carroll liked
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to invent funny word puzzles
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that you could solve with mathematics.
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He used something called Boolean algebra
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to convert the words into equations.
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The only numbers in
Boolean algebra are zero
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and one, nothing and everything.
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And you could reach a conclusion by adding
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and multiplying the equations.
And you could reach a conclusion by adding
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and multiplying the equations.
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- So, what's the answer?
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- Babies cannot manage crocodiles.
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- He couldn't do mental
arithmetic any better
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than the average person.
- He couldn't do mental
arithmetic any better
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than the average person.
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And if he had two numbers
to multiply, 26 times 42,
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he'd go on the blackboard, 26, 42,
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and do long multiplication, which was...
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You'd think he'd just be,
you know, a numbers genius.
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No, he was much bigger than that.
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- I got two Bachelor's
degrees at Michigan.
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One in electrical engineering,
the other in mathematics.
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I really wasn't sure what to do at all,
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and I saw a little postcard on the wall
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that said MIT was looking
for a research assistant
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to run a machine that
could solve equations.
that said MIT was looking
for a research assistant
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to run a machine that
could solve equations.
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They called it The Thinking Machine.
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That sounded interesting.
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Vannevar Bush (chuckles)
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right over there, he invented it.
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He was pretty famous in the
world of engineering by then,
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so I applied and spent the
next four years at MIT.
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(intense instrumental music)
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- The electromechanical
Differential Analyzer
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- The electromechanical
Differential Analyzer
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performs scientific and industrial marvels
- The electromechanical
Differential Analyzer
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performs scientific and industrial marvels
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at the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology.
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Perforated tape introduces the
data to the 100-ton marvel,
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which solves problems
Perforated tape introduces the
data to the 100-ton marvel,
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which solves problems
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beyond the ordinary
methods of calculation.
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- The Thinking Machine,
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which officially was called
the Differential Analyzer,
- The Thinking Machine,
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which officially was called
the Differential Analyzer,
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was the smartest calculating
machine of the time.
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All sorts of gears and rotating
shafts and wheels and so on,
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it must've weighed 100 tons.
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My job was to set the different wheels
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and things to solve equations.
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The heart of the machine
though was electric switches,
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just like the switches you find
The heart of the machine
though was electric switches,
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just like the switches you find
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in a telephone network to route calls.
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It occurred to me,
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because I'd taken the Boolean
algebra course in Michigan,
It occurred to me,
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because I'd taken the Boolean
algebra course in Michigan,
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that there was a beautiful parallel
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between electric switches,
which are just on or off,
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and Boolean algebra
which reduced everything
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to true and false.
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I used one for true and zero for false.
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I worked out the mathematics,
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which had some funny things like,
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if a true statement plus a true statement
which had some funny things like,
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if a true statement plus a true statement
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equals true statement, that
means one plus one equals one.
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I wrote it all up for my Master's thesis
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and that was the beginning
of my great career. (laughs)
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- So, his Master's thesis is considered
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the most important Master's
thesis of all time.
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And he writes this at the age of 21.
the most important Master's
thesis of all time.
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And he writes this at the age of 21.
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He even wins a prize.
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It's the Noble Prize.
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Now, that's not Noble,
it's N-O-B-L-E is the prize
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that he wins.
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It's very prestigious, it's
given to the top engineer.
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He's the youngest recipient
ever, and he gets prize money,
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a certificate, he's
invited to give the paper
He's the youngest recipient
ever, and he gets prize money,
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a certificate, he's
invited to give the paper
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to an audience of engineers
in Washington D.C.
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and, best part, he gets written
up in the New York Times.
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- Shannon's Master's thesis
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is his first fundamental leap of insight.
- Shannon's Master's thesis
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is his first fundamental leap of insight.
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George Boole came up with laws of thought,
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and they were nice and beautiful,
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but Shannon was looking at
electromechanical switches,
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and what is the connection between laws
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of thought and switches?
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(clinking)
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Well, Shannon realized
they are the same thing.
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(clinking)
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And that was just mind-boggling,
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because if the laws of
thought could be implemented
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in switches then it's not outlandish
because if the laws of
thought could be implemented
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in switches then it's not outlandish
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to surmise that at some
point machines could think.
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- No, no, not that way.
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Back up, back up a little bit.
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Theseus would've figured this out already.
Back up, back up a little bit.
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Theseus would've figured this out already.
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- I've heard people say
that your Master's thesis
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was the most important
Master's thesis of the century.
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Did you have a eureka moment?
was the most important
Master's thesis of the century.
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Did you have a eureka moment?
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- (chuckles) I might have,
if I'd known how to spell it.
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I had a lot of fun
figuring that thing out.
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I had a great time.
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(gentle instrumental music)
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- I was going to Radcliffe,
the girls' part of Harvard,
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and I had two friends who
said, "Oh, Norma, come with us.
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"We know some nice guys over at MIT."
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I said, "Okay," and we went.
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And it was a living room
with three bedrooms off it.
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Now, two of the guys
who lived there came out
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and talked to my friends,
and the door was open
Now, two of the guys
who lived there came out
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and talked to my friends,
and the door was open
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to the third bedroom.
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(cheerful jazz music)
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And I could see someone
in it not coming forth,
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but what came forth from
there was Bix Beiderbecke.
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(cheerful jazz music)
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So, I walked over that way
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and said, "Why don't you come out?"
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And he came just sort of halfway out.
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(cheerful jazz music)
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And he said, "Why don't you come in?"
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(cheerful jazz music)
And he said, "Why don't you come in?"
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(cheerful jazz music)
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He was so funny and charming,
and delicious and cute,
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and saw things, I mean, his comments
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about things were like an artist.
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He didn't sound like a
scientist, not at all.
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He liked poetry, and
he liked E.E. Cummings.
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He wrote a poem to my
bosom and I tore it up.
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Yes, I'm ashamed and unhappy
that I did, but there you are.
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(gentle guitar music)
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He wanted to learn to fly, and he did.
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He had just done his
one plus one equals one,
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it was his Master's thesis,
and he had to prepare French
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to get his PhD.
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(gentle instrumental music)
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And I had to teach him enough
French to pass the doctorate.
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(gentle instrumental music)
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I love it that he wasn't
that good at that.
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(big band music)
I love it that he wasn't
that good at that.
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(big band music)
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- "Dear Dr. Bush, I did not,
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"as you may have anticipated,
marry a lady scientist,
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"but rather a writer.
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"She was helping me with my French
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"and apparently it ripened into
something more than French."
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(big band music)
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- So, you turned
to biology for your PhD?
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(Claude laughs)
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- Vann Bush.
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Vann liked how I used my
queer algebra so much,
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that's what he called it,
that he suggested I try
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to apply it to genetics.
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I didn't know anything about genetics.
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This was in 1940, before Watson
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and Crick had even
figured out DNA structure.
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But, you know, DNA might be
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the ultimate information storage device.
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So, I read all the
introductory genetic text books
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that I could find, and
what I discovered was
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that you could represent
different genetic possibilities
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mathematically in matrices.
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And then you could just use matrix algebra
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to make predictions of
how traits were passed on
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through generations.
to make predictions of
how traits were passed on
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through generations.
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But I don't think the biologists
knew what to make of it.
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Maybe it was too far out for them.
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- He'd got a national research
fellowship in mathematics
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to the Institute for
Advanced Study in June 1940,
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and that's when we moved to Princeton.
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(gentle instrumental music)
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Claude liked my taste.
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What he liked particularly
was a painting that I loved,
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the Seurat, Dimanche a la Grande
Jatte, Sunday in the Park.
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He liked the timelessness of it.
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(intense instrumental music)
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I looked at that a million times
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and I didn't think it was a
painting about time, but he did.
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- I met Einstein, Gödel, von Neumann,
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but you've got to get the
picture right, Michelle,
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I said I met them but they
probably wouldn't say they met me
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because they wouldn't remember.
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But I remember being very impressed
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when I met Einstein, for example.
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He always walked to work,
when I met Einstein, for example.
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He always walked to work,
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and when I drove by I'd wave at him.
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I don't think he had any idea who I was,
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but he probably thought I
was some kind of weirdo.
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- Did you try to
talk to them about your ideas,
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about information and...
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Dr. Shannon?
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- Oh, I...
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I had a couple of good
conversations with Hermann Weyl,
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00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:53,640
who was my supervisor, about
the revolutions taking place
I had a couple of good
conversations with Hermann Weyl,
494
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,440
who was my supervisor, about
the revolutions taking place
495
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,040
in science: quantum mechanics,
496
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,320
the Heisenberg uncertainty principle
497
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800
saying things couldn't
be measured precisely,
498
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,920
Kurt Gödel showing the
limitations in mathematics.
499
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,480
But the people at the institute
500
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,640
were very pure mathematics-oriented
501
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,320
and not so interested in
more practical things.
502
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,600
(gentle clarinet music)
503
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,520
I didn't run across anyone
who was much interested
504
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760
in the things I was trying to do.
505
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,320
- The last six months in Princeton,
506
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,360
something was going wrong.
507
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,080
When he came home from
there, he was unhappy
508
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,920
and he didn't even wanna talk about it.
509
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,960
And it wasn't going well.
510
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,160
(gentle clarinet music)
511
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,880
He stayed home, he didn't wanna go out,
512
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,680
he talked less and less,
513
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:16,720
he played the clarinet more and more.
he talked less and less,
514
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,800
he played the clarinet more and more.
515
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,080
- Was it possibly
related to what was going on
516
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,360
in the world?
517
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,840
The build up to the war?
518
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,040
- Not at all.
519
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,400
He didn't wanna know
about anything political.
520
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,560
I thought he was just unhappy
521
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,400
with his work at the institute.
522
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,480
- Is that why
he left the institute
523
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,040
after two months?
524
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,080
- No.
after two months?
525
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,040
- No.
526
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,080
We got there in September
- No.
527
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,320
We got there in September
528
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,360
and I was living in
Princeton through July.
We got there in September
529
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,320
and I was living in
Princeton through July.
530
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,160
- But he was only working
531
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,760
at the institute for two months.
532
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,960
- Are you telling me that
when I thought he was
533
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,800
at the Institute for Advanced
Study he wasn't there?
534
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,440
When I was with him?
535
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320
You mean he resigned
and he didn't tell me?
536
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,880
Was he going somewhere else?
537
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,280
What was he doing?
538
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,320
- He was working
What was he doing?
539
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,080
- He was working
540
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,520
for the National Defense
Research Committee
541
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:11,560
through Princeton University.
for the National Defense
Research Committee
542
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,920
through Princeton University.
543
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,800
- Well, that's interesting.
544
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080
Listen, something funny was going on
545
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,800
because he looked different,
546
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720
he was a completely different guy.
547
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Something peculiar was happening.
548
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,920
It was hard living with him.
549
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040
I said, "You know, I can't live this way,
550
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,520
"and I've got to get a divorce."
551
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,720
(gentle clarinet music)
552
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:55,920
- Uh.
553
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600
About halfway through
the year at Princeton,
554
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,120
I could smell the...
555
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,080
I could smell the war coming along.
556
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,760
It occurred to me that
I would be more useful
557
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,560
and safer working full-time
for the war effort.
558
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Safer against the draft,
which I didn't exactly fancy.
559
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,800
So, what I did was I resigned
my fellowship halfway through,
560
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,720
and I went down and asked if I
could get a job at Bell Labs.
561
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960
(blues music)
562
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720
♪ I went to the restaurant monday ♪
563
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040
- He played the blues day and night.
564
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Teddy Grace was the singer that he adored.
565
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Oh, I loved her, too.
566
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,160
I still love her.
Oh, I loved her, too.
567
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,160
I still love her.
568
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Very sad blues that he
played, but beautiful ones.
569
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880
He had a very big record player.
570
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:01,920
And you could hear it through the ceiling.
He had a very big record player.
571
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,920
And you could hear it through the ceiling.
572
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520
He played it day and night,
that's how I met him.
573
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,640
I said, you know, "Even
though I'm up all night,
574
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,960
"a good part of the
night, but you keep me up.
575
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,480
"I can't even study.
576
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,840
"It's too noisy."
577
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,280
He said, "Well, I'll move it."
578
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
And then he asked me
would I go out with him.
579
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,920
He was very good-looking, really striking.
580
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,200
He had this black thing, you know, a curl
581
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,240
that came over his forehead always,
He had this black thing, you know, a curl
582
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040
that came over his forehead always,
583
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,400
that he had to shake off.
584
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,440
He loved jazz.
585
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,160
I mean, it was a passion
with him, a real passion.
586
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520
He said the improvisation,
the unpredictability
587
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,800
of it is what he loved about it, he said.
588
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,440
When I asked him, "What are you doing?
589
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,440
"How are you making a living?"
590
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960
He said, "I work with numbers."
591
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880
And I thought, "Oh, he's an accountant."
592
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,960
You know, I think it was a suffering time.
593
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,560
I had German measles, and
Claude was trying to get them.
594
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,600
He said if he got it then he
wouldn't have to go to work,
595
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600
because he hated the work he was doing.
596
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,520
- Initially they had me working
on missile firing systems,
597
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,080
but there was another group
at Bell working on systems
598
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520
to scramble the communications
599
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:27,560
between Churchill and Roosevelt.
to scramble the communications
600
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,440
between Churchill and Roosevelt.
601
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,440
That was the sort of thing
602
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440
I was interested in, communications.
603
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080
So, I asked if I could go work with them.
604
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Most of the cryptography group were trying
605
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,360
to figure out how to
crack specific messages,
606
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,280
very practical stuff,
code breaking things,
607
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,520
like Sherlock Holmes and so forth.
608
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:48,560
But nobody seemed to be very interested
like Sherlock Holmes and so forth.
609
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,440
But nobody seemed to be very interested
610
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:50,480
in theoretical questions.
But nobody seemed to be very interested
611
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400
in theoretical questions.
612
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Like, how many messages
you needed to intercept
613
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,120
before you could get a solution?
614
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,280
Or, could you create a
completely unbreakable code?
615
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,000
That was the sort of thing
I was more interested
616
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,800
in trying to do.
617
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,480
- Norma had told
him to get in analysis,
618
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480
because he must've been
very depressed already
619
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,680
when he was with her.
620
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,240
- I didn't get as much response
621
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:23,280
to my cryptography work as I expected.
- I didn't get as much response
622
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,080
to my cryptography work as I expected.
623
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000
I guess it wasn't very useful,
624
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680
practically speaking, to cryptographers.
625
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,720
But after the war though, I
was called in as a consultant
practically speaking, to cryptographers.
626
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,800
But after the war though, I
was called in as a consultant
627
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:33,840
to the National Security
Agency in Washington.
But after the war though, I
was called in as a consultant
628
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320
to the National Security
Agency in Washington.
629
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,560
So, I guess someone...
630
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,800
I probably better...
631
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,320
Even though this was a long time ago,
632
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,760
I guess I shouldn't tell you about that.
633
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760
- I asked him, "How is
it going in analysis?"
634
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,880
He said, "The guy's
finally learned something
635
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:53,920
"about mathematics and
how to think properly."
He said, "The guy's
finally learned something
636
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,760
"about mathematics and
how to think properly."
637
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,680
He said that what had
hurt him so in life was
638
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240
that there was certainty
until a certain time,
639
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,880
that once he knew a thing to
be true it would remain true,
640
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,280
and everything had changed.
641
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Everything became sort
of relative, he said.
642
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,240
He had believed in black and
white truth, absolute truth.
643
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,680
And those had gone for him.
644
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,560
He had to adjust to that.
645
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280
(gentle instrumental music)
646
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:30,320
"With love and kisses
and curses and hisses.
(gentle instrumental music)
647
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,320
"With love and kisses
and curses and hisses.
648
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,000
"Claude, 1944."
649
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,600
That was a long time ago.
650
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,120
(gentle instrumental music)
651
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,080
It doesn't seem to be
that long ago, really not.
652
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480
I didn't know how much
I cared for him, really.
653
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,960
I should've known.
654
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280
That secret life, I think,
really got between us.
655
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,320
- I found this 1945
cryptography report you wrote.
656
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,840
And it uses the words
"information theory".
657
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:09,880
And I think that that's the
first time that phrase appeared,
And it uses the words
"information theory".
658
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,360
And I think that that's the
first time that phrase appeared,
659
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560
those two words together
in print, anywhere.
660
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,560
- Is that so?
661
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,720
- Yes.
662
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:19,520
See?
663
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,480
And I'm wondering, your monumental paper
664
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,680
on information theory
didn't come out until 1948.
665
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,120
- Hmm.
666
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,400
- So is it accurate to say
667
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,680
that information theory came
out of your cryptography work?
668
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,560
- No.
669
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:35,600
Look, Michelle, you're
looking for a simple...
- No.
670
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,920
Look, Michelle, you're
looking for a simple...
671
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,720
It would be more accurate
to say they were going on
672
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:41,760
at the same time.
It would be more accurate
to say they were going on
673
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,280
at the same time.
674
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680
In my mind, they're connected.
675
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,920
How you make something unintelligible
676
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,680
or how you make it
intelligible are two sides
677
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,120
of the same coin.
678
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,720
- But officially
you were just working
679
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:57,360
on cryptography, right?
680
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:57,400
- Are you looking to work
on cryptography, right?
681
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,720
- Are you looking to work
682
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,680
for the district attorney's
office? (chuckles)
683
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:00,720
- No.
for the district attorney's
office? (chuckles)
684
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:01,480
- No.
685
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,360
No, I'm just--
686
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,400
- The cryptography work was just a way
No, I'm just--
687
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,720
- The cryptography work was just a way
688
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,800
of legitimizing the other work I was doing
689
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,520
at home outside office hours, so to speak,
690
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,160
to make it look like I
was working on decent,
691
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,200
worthwhile things, if
you know what I mean.
692
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,240
- Did you feel like you had
worthwhile things, if
you know what I mean.
693
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,120
- Did you feel like you had
694
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000
to hide the other work?
695
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,040
- Not hide exactly, but I didn't know
to hide the other work?
696
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,320
- Not hide exactly, but I didn't know
697
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,880
if it would all work out.
698
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,200
- Shannon works on his universal theory
699
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,400
of communication for 10 years.
700
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,280
He works on it through a failed marriage
701
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,320
and through this war work
that he really dislikes.
702
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,440
He works at nights, he
works on the weekends,
703
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,240
he collects snatches
of time here and there,
704
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:50,280
and he works alone.
he collects snatches
of time here and there,
705
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,000
and he works alone.
706
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,040
He doesn't tell anyone
what he's working on.
and he works alone.
707
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,320
He doesn't tell anyone
what he's working on.
708
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,640
What he realizes is that in order
709
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,080
to understand communication,
he needs a new understanding
710
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,840
of the thing you wanna communicate.
711
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,840
He needs a radical new
definition of information.
712
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,960
- Information, which they
called intelligence at the time,
713
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160
was a slippery concept.
714
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:19,200
I wanted to try to find a
way to treat information
was a slippery concept.
715
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,280
I wanted to try to find a
way to treat information
716
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,200
like a physical thing, like
energy that you could measure.
717
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,720
(gentle instrumental music)
718
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,320
What I realized was,
to measure information,
719
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,480
you have to look at it
without regard to meaning.
720
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
That upsets a lot of people.
721
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:44,440
That content is irrelevant.
That upsets a lot of people.
722
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,560
That content is irrelevant.
723
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,200
(intense instrumental music)
724
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,480
The point of sending a message
is to remove uncertainty,
725
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,800
something you didn't
know but now you know.
726
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,320
Do you have a coin, Michelle?
727
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,880
- A coin?
- Yes, a coin.
728
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,560
I'd get up to get one myself,
729
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,520
but you'll just tell me to
sit back down. (chuckles)
730
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,920
- Um...
731
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Yes.
732
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,960
- There.
733
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,240
(Claude clears throat)
734
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,080
Heads or tails?
735
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,080
- Tails.
736
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,880
- Heads.
737
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000
A coin toss is an example
of the simplest form
738
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,040
of information to
communicate, a binary choice.
A coin toss is an example
of the simplest form
739
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,600
of information to
communicate, a binary choice.
740
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,400
True or false, heads or
tails, a one or a zero.
741
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,800
A bit.
742
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,320
(gentle instrumental music)
743
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,360
- Shannon's big idea number one:
744
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,720
convert all information to bits.
745
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,200
(coin clinking)
746
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,720
(gentle instrumental music)
747
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,480
(glass crashing)
748
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,000
(gentle instrumental music)
749
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,120
All information can be
represented as zeros and ones.
750
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Pictures, music, (upbeat music)
751
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,360
video, all information can
be treated the same way.
752
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,880
(gentle instrumental music)
753
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,840
Which means the problem
of communication reduces
754
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,120
to just two things:
how do I convert things
755
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,120
to zeros and ones,
756
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,280
and how do I make sure that those zeros
757
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,640
and ones get through accurately?
758
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,600
- Is your coin legal?
759
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:41,640
- Sorry?
- Is your coin legal?
760
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,920
- Sorry?
761
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,760
- Your coin's not counterfeit, is it?
762
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,840
- Not that I know of.
763
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:46,880
- So, if I toss it 100 times,
- Not that I know of.
764
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,120
- So, if I toss it 100 times,
765
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,760
each time I toss it there's
an equal probability
766
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600
that it's a head or tail.
767
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,840
I'd need 100 bits of
information, one for each toss,
768
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,560
to communicate the results.
769
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Now, if it turns out you're
some sort of a con woman
to communicate the results.
770
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,360
Now, if it turns out you're
some sort of a con woman
771
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,600
and you thought it might
be fun to pull the wool
772
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,760
over some gullible old man's eyes...
773
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,200
Heads, right?
774
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,560
- It's heads on both sides.
775
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,080
- Yeah, I didn't need
any information from you
776
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,760
to know the result.
777
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,280
If something's completely predictable,
778
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,320
there's zero information.
If something's completely predictable,
779
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,280
there's zero information.
780
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,040
But, on the other hand, if
something's completely random,
781
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,480
you need the information about everything.
782
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,600
It's counterintuitive,
783
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:32,640
but gibberish contains more information
It's counterintuitive,
784
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,360
but gibberish contains more information
785
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,760
than great literature.
786
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,400
- Not if it's "Finnegans Wake."
787
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,440
(Claude laughs)
- Not if it's "Finnegans Wake."
788
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,360
(Claude laughs)
789
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,720
- No, James Joyce is
unpredictable. (chuckles)
790
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,440
- Or the Jabberwocky poem,
791
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,440
"Twas brillig, and the slithy toves.
792
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,560
"Did gyre and gimble in the wabe."
793
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,480
(Claude laughs)
794
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,200
- You could barely guess
the next letter of that.
795
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,000
But normal English though, I calculated,
796
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,920
is over 50% redundant.
797
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,000
You know if certain
words follow each other,
798
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,040
there's grammar rules.
You know if certain
words follow each other,
799
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,160
there's grammar rules.
800
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,560
When you learn a language,
801
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,920
you inherently know the statistics,
802
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,360
that's why you can drop
letters and even words
803
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,080
and still understand the message.
804
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,840
- Looking at the redundancy
805
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,360
in English gives Shannon
his big thought number two:
806
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,960
compress your information.
807
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,480
(gentle instrumental music)
808
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,240
Eliminate the redundancy.
809
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,240
Just send what you can't predict.
810
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,760
(gentle instrumental music)
811
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,760
And then he asked the question
812
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,480
that nobody had really thought of before,
813
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,920
is there a minimum size,
a minimum number of bits
814
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,280
that I can shrink my information to
815
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,280
and not lose anything essential?
816
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,840
(playful music)
817
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,800
He discovers there is a minimum
818
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,040
and he shows how to calculate it.
819
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,840
His formula is based on the
probabilities in the message.
820
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,920
It has a very intriguing
form, it's almost identical
821
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,200
to a fundamental quantity
in physics called entropy,
822
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,240
which is related to
randomness and disorder.
823
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:28,440
(intense instrumental music)
824
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520
Shannon calls his quantity entropy, too.
825
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,640
And what he proves is that the entropy
826
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:34,680
is actually the answer to his question,
And what he proves is that the entropy
827
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800
is actually the answer to his question,
828
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,000
"What's the best I can do?"
829
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,880
The entropy is the absolute minimum size
830
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,640
you can compress your
message without any loss.
831
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,080
(intense orchestral music)
832
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,760
Shannon's ideas that you
can compress a huge amount
833
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,840
of information into something very small
834
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:05,880
is what makes The
Information Age possible.
of information into something very small
835
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,520
is what makes The
Information Age possible.
836
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,080
- Do you know what the first
message was that was sent
837
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:15,120
on the Washington-Moscow hotline?
- Do you know what the first
message was that was sent
838
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,520
on the Washington-Moscow hotline?
839
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:18,560
- Uh...
on the Washington-Moscow hotline?
840
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,600
- Uh...
841
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,040
"Do you hear me?"
842
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,080
(Claude chuckles)
"Do you hear me?"
843
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,960
(Claude chuckles)
844
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,400
- "The quick brown fox jumped
over the lazy dog's back."
845
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,560
One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine, zero.
846
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,440
It uses every letter of the alphabet,
847
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,120
but it isn't the most efficient
848
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,160
because some of the letters are repeated.
but it isn't the most efficient
849
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000
because some of the letters are repeated.
850
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Betty and I had a grand
time trying to come up
851
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,000
with the shortest sentence that
uses every letter only once.
Betty and I had a grand
time trying to come up
852
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,640
with the shortest sentence that
uses every letter only once.
853
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,280
- We spent a lot of time
looking in the dictionary
854
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,720
for words heavy on consonants
and light on vowels.
855
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,880
- The hard part is that
there's only a few vowels
856
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,960
and every word needs to have one.
857
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,040
Squdgy Fez Blank Jimp Crwth Vox.
858
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,480
(intense orchestral music)
859
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,520
- Shannon's ideas that you
should first change everything
860
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,800
to zeros and ones and then
compress it is a huge step
861
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,640
towards the universal
theory of communication,
862
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,760
but it's not the end of the story,
863
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,520
because you still have to get those zeros
864
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:23,560
and ones across your channel,
because you still have to get those zeros
865
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,160
and ones across your channel,
866
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,720
and the channel has physical limitations,
867
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:28,760
whether it's a wire or a pipe
with water flowing through it.
and the channel has physical limitations,
868
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,200
whether it's a wire or a pipe
with water flowing through it.
869
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,760
And then, there's always noise, (static)
870
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680
things like static or interference,
871
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,640
that can mix up or flip the
zeros and ones and wipe you out.
872
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Shannon wonders, "Can I
calculate for any channel
873
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,800
"a speed limit beyond which you know
874
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:54,840
"things are gonna fall apart?"
"a speed limit beyond which you know
875
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,360
"things are gonna fall apart?"
876
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,480
He comes up with another formula,
877
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,840
it's a theoretical maximum speed,
878
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,000
an information speed limit,
like the speed of light.
879
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,160
We call it the Shannon limit.
880
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,840
You can't go faster
than the Shannon limit.
881
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,960
If you try, you go off a cliff.
882
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,640
- The idea that there was a speed limit
883
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,400
to information was so out of the blue.
884
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,200
I mean, even just
conceptually this was a shock.
885
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,320
It was like when Einstein said
886
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,960
that you couldn't make things go faster
887
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,560
than the speed of light.
888
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,720
But what Shannon showed is if you tried
889
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,920
to get past this limit,
above the Shannon limit,
890
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,920
you cannot recover any useful information.
891
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,480
(static)
892
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,880
- Shannon's third big idea, huge idea:
893
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,080
use mathematics to eliminate noise.
894
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,120
This seemed crazy, what
does that even mean?
use mathematics to eliminate noise.
895
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,320
This seemed crazy, what
does that even mean?
896
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,000
He proved that mathematics
could eliminate errors
897
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,560
from static and interference.
898
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,200
You could use mathematical
codes to overcome noise.
899
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,240
And then, as the icing on the cake,
900
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,400
Shannon claimed this could work right up
901
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,560
to the Shannon limit.
902
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,400
If you could find the right codes,
903
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,680
you could have perfect
communication with as little errors
904
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,440
as you wanted, and that
was the revolution.
905
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,680
(alarm-clock ringing)
906
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,120
(wrist-watch bleeping)
907
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:23,160
(telephone ringing)
(wrist-watch bleeping)
908
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,400
(telephone ringing)
909
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,160
(cell phone ringing)
910
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,600
(intense orchestral music)
911
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,200
(satellite bleeping)
912
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,480
- Suppose you wanted
to use Shannon's ideas
913
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,360
to help with one of the most
difficult known problems
914
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,640
in communication:
communicating with a spouse.
915
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,160
- One communication
scenario I can think of
916
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,200
applying Shannon's ideas to is
communication in a marriage,
- One communication
scenario I can think of
917
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,600
applying Shannon's ideas to is
communication in a marriage,
918
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:58,640
which, as we all know,
can be really difficult.
applying Shannon's ideas to is
communication in a marriage,
919
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,640
which, as we all know,
can be really difficult.
920
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:01,680
- This communication is often
prone to serious errors,
which, as we all know,
can be really difficult.
921
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,080
- This communication is often
prone to serious errors,
922
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,560
which sometimes lead to disasters.
923
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:07,600
- There's all this noise,
there's interference,
which sometimes lead to disasters.
924
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,280
- There's all this noise,
there's interference,
925
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,160
maybe they had a bad day or a good day,
926
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,960
you know, maybe the kids are
shouting in the background
927
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,920
or the dog's barking.
928
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:14,960
And so, how do you convey
exactly what you wanna say
or the dog's barking.
929
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,400
And so, how do you convey
exactly what you wanna say
930
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,440
to your spouse in a way
that they understand?
931
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,840
- One way of communicating is
repeating your message over
932
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:23,880
and over again.
- One way of communicating is
repeating your message over
933
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,800
and over again.
934
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,200
- And that probably will
eventually get through,
935
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,120
but your partner may get annoyed with you.
936
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,960
- And another way is to shout louder.
937
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,640
- But that could also be misconstrued.
938
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:38,680
- So, what Shannon really said is
- But that could also be misconstrued.
939
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,160
- So, what Shannon really said is
940
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,800
that nagging, you know,
doesn't really work,
941
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,400
or speaking louder doesn't work either.
942
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:45,440
- It's how you pick your words.
or speaking louder doesn't work either.
943
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920
- It's how you pick your words.
944
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,280
- So, we should say
things perhaps many times
945
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,160
but in different fashions,
in different presentations.
946
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,200
We should code them well,
but in different fashions,
in different presentations.
947
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,760
We should code them well,
948
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:54,800
and at the end of our communication
We should code them well,
949
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,160
and at the end of our communication
950
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,760
we should always add an
error-correcting code,
951
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,760
which in this case
could be something like,
952
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,960
"But I love you."
953
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,120
(bomb explodes)
954
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:07,160
- When Shannon's paper came
out, it was like a bombshell.
(bomb explodes)
955
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,080
- When Shannon's paper came
out, it was like a bombshell.
956
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,960
To be able to communicate with
as few errors as you wanted,
957
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,280
people couldn't believe it.
958
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Some people couldn't understand the math.
959
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,920
Engineers thought it was so far removed
960
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:24,960
from anything they could build,
Engineers thought it was so far removed
961
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,800
from anything they could build,
962
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,080
they just basically thought
it was science fiction.
963
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,160
- But there were some people
who became big champions
964
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,200
and saw the potential in
what Shannon had done.
- But there were some people
who became big champions
965
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,000
and saw the potential in
what Shannon had done.
966
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,680
They became totally enamored
of this new field, information.
967
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,400
So, he's placed on a list
of the leading scientists
968
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:44,440
of the day, alongside Richard
Feynman and Watson and Crick.
So, he's placed on a list
of the leading scientists
969
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,680
of the day, alongside Richard
Feynman and Watson and Crick.
970
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,520
He's given write ups in Time
Magazine and Fortune Magazine
971
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,960
and Scientific American.
972
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,000
And he's even given a
spread in Vogue Magazine
and Scientific American.
973
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920
And he's even given a
spread in Vogue Magazine
974
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,400
with a photo shoot from
Henri Cartier-Bresson,
975
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,920
the renowned photographer,
976
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,520
whose other photo shoots
included Mahatma Gandhi,
977
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Chairman Mao's funeral,
Queen Elizabeth's coronation,
978
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,200
and Claude Shannon at his
home in Massachusetts.
979
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,720
- When Shannon's paper came out in 1948,
980
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:18,640
people embraced it far beyond
what Shannon ever envisioned
981
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,720
it would be embraced as,
982
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:22,680
which was a mathematical
theory of information.
983
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,880
So, it started being applied to philosophy
984
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:24,920
and pretty much almost
every field embraced it,
So, it started being applied to philosophy
985
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,280
and pretty much almost
every field embraced it,
986
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,000
"Oh, we're gonna use
this mathematical theory
987
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,920
"of information in what we do."
988
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,480
And it got a little bit out of control,
989
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,920
and it was being applied in
ways that didn't make any sense.
990
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,480
- Just a bit more.
991
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,600
- I found this wonderful T-shirt
992
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,480
(Claude laughs)
993
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,040
in the London airport.
994
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,840
(Michelle chuckles)
995
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,640
- Were you famous
when your paper came out?
996
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,520
- Not too much.
997
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,800
- He wrote a paper telling them
998
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,400
to get off the bandwagon.
999
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,000
- I was worried that there was still a lot
1000
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,840
of hard slugging left to do
in our own professional house.
1001
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000
- I read that a
major American mathematician
1002
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,080
criticized your paper
1003
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,240
for not being mathematically
rigorous enough.
1004
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,360
- Maybe it needed people a
little brighter to understand it.
1005
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,160
- Russian mathematicians
got it right away.
1006
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,520
- Yes, they did.
1007
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,000
- But the codes that
you said had to exist,
1008
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,080
you didn't show how to get them.
1009
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,880
And now it's 35 or so years
later and all your ideas
1010
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,120
about converting everything
to digital, compressing audio,
1011
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,560
those things are all happening,
1012
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,360
but as far as your fundamental
theorem, nobody's been able
1013
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,440
to find codes that get anywhere
near the Shannon limit.
1014
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,880
Do you think that...
1015
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,160
Are you worried that
you'll be proven right?
1016
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,240
- I knew what I was doing,
and it came out exactly right.
1017
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,520
Some people question
whether the technology
1018
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,640
will ever be powerful
enough to implement it, but
1019
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,920
there's a lot of bright
young people trying
1020
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,520
to find those codes.
1021
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,400
(roulette rattling)
1022
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,360
- The first few times I met him,
1023
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,400
he was giving a lecture or something.
1024
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,320
I was very young then,
very shy, very immature,
1025
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,040
afraid to go up and talk to him.
1026
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,120
I was working on a problem
1027
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,920
that I thought was very important.
1028
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:35,960
It was an information theoretic problem.
that I thought was very important.
1029
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,800
It was an information theoretic problem.
1030
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,320
I knew he would be interested in it also.
1031
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,920
I started to talk to him about it.
1032
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,440
And suddenly, the problem
seemed too complicated for him,
1033
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,000
which surprised me, but he said,
1034
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000
"Let's simplify it a little bit."
1035
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,360
So we took one piece out, then
we took another piece out,
1036
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,720
and another piece out,
1037
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,640
suddenly it was a silly little problem
1038
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,200
and the answer became obvious.
1039
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
And then we slowly put the pieces back in
1040
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,600
and the problem was solved.
1041
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,560
How do you do that?
1042
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,760
How do you take pieces
out in the right way
1043
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,520
so that when you get done taking them out
1044
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,000
you can solve the problem?
1045
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,160
He would build these little experiments
1046
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,280
and his little experiments
would give him some insights
1047
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,000
about whether the general
problem could be solved.
1048
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:28,920
- Hello.
1049
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,840
I'm Claude Shannon, a mathematician here
1050
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,520
at the Bell Telephone Laboratories.
1051
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,120
This is Theseus.
1052
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,160
Theseus is an
electrically-controlled mouse.
This is Theseus.
1053
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,120
Theseus is an
electrically-controlled mouse.
1054
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,520
He has the ability to solve
a certain class of problems
1055
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,640
by trial and error means, and
then remember the solution.
1056
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,840
In other words, he can
learn from experience.
1057
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,280
Like his classical namesake,
Theseus has a problem
1058
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,000
with finding his way through a maze.
1059
00:51:55,720 --> 00:52:00,520
The mouse moves by this electromagnet.
1060
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,400
And its brain are these switches,
1061
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,680
just like the switches you'd find
1062
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,600
in a telephone switch board.
1063
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,120
Betty did most of the wiring, by the way.
1064
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,160
I took it over to Bell
Labs one day to show them.
Betty did most of the wiring, by the way.
1065
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,760
I took it over to Bell
Labs one day to show them.
1066
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,800
They liked it very much,
they were very impressed.
1067
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,800
They even wanted to use it in a film.
1068
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,640
- When did you build this?
1069
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,480
It must've been one
1070
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,320
of the earliest artificial
intelligence devices.
1071
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:26,360
- Um...
of the earliest artificial
intelligence devices.
1072
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,120
- Um...
1073
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,760
Uh...
1074
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,680
Betty!
1075
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,360
When did we make Theseus?
1076
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:36,400
- 1950.
- Right.
When did we make Theseus?
1077
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,440
- 1950.
- Right.
1078
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,720
- He made a little turtle
first that would walk
1079
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:45,440
around the house and bump
into things, and back off.
1080
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:45,480
And then the mouse.
around the house and bump
into things, and back off.
1081
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,400
And then the mouse.
1082
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:47,440
- So, you said that you did most
And then the mouse.
1083
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,320
- So, you said that you did most
1084
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,440
of your information theory
work between 1943 and 1945,
1085
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,200
so why didn't you publish
your paper until 1948?
1086
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,120
- Laziness, I guess.
1087
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:01,160
I have a number of papers
that are unpublished,
- Laziness, I guess.
1088
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,280
I have a number of papers
that are unpublished,
1089
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,200
they're even more tardy than that.
1090
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,280
- Oh, we've got boxes and boxes
1091
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,680
of unfinished papers upstairs.
1092
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,960
Who knows what's in them?
1093
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,240
Maybe we should punish you
and make you go through them.
1094
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:14,400
(Claude laughs)
1095
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,600
- Well, I never liked writing very much.
1096
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,960
I liked ideas, but I was
lazy about putting them down
1097
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,640
on paper, which is how
you get the acclaim.
1098
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,600
- Hmm.
1099
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,640
After we were married, he
would dictate his papers to me
1100
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,520
and I would write them up.
1101
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,320
- You were a mathematician
1102
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,480
at Bell Labs, too, right?
1103
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,680
- I married a computer.
1104
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,880
- My mother was much, much better
1105
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,160
at arithmetic than my father was.
1106
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,880
She went to Douglas College, which is part
1107
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,480
of Rutgers University,
1108
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,000
which was a wonderful opportunity for her.
1109
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,480
She was a math major, did
very well, and graduated just
1110
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,040
at the beginning of World War II
1111
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,800
when everybody was
looking for math majors.
1112
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,840
And she had several job offers,
which was exciting for her.
1113
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,240
She accepted the one at Bell Labs to be,
1114
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:02,280
what they called, a computer.
She accepted the one at Bell Labs to be,
1115
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,920
what they called, a computer.
1116
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,320
Her term is, it was a
secretarial pool for math majors.
1117
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,400
So, it was a room full of
women who had been math majors
1118
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,560
who would then do the calculating
1119
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,760
for the male mathematicians and engineers.
1120
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,880
After Bell, my mother took up weaving,
1121
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:17,920
which is very mathematical.
After Bell, my mother took up weaving,
1122
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,280
which is very mathematical.
1123
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:19,320
She became an accomplished weaver
which is very mathematical.
1124
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,840
She became an accomplished weaver
1125
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,560
and a pioneer in using
computers in hand-weaving.
1126
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,920
My father, of course,
had to build her a loom.
1127
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:25,960
My parents were a great partnership.
My father, of course,
had to build her a loom.
1128
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,720
My parents were a great partnership.
1129
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,240
They both appreciated
each other's intelligence,
1130
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,920
and together they were a great team.
1131
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,880
- But I didn't meet Claude
until after the 1948 paper,
1132
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,320
so I couldn't make him
write that one quicker.
1133
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,520
(Claude laughs)
1134
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,560
- You have to understand, too,
1135
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,080
that during the war this
wasn't a priority, this work.
1136
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,600
And I didn't think in the early stages
1137
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:53,640
it would have such an impact.
And I didn't think in the early stages
1138
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,000
it would have such an impact.
1139
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,600
(intense instrumental music)
1140
00:54:59,600 --> 00:54:59,640
- One of the most beautiful
things about Shannon's paper is
(intense instrumental music)
1141
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,520
- One of the most beautiful
things about Shannon's paper is
1142
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:02,560
that he reduced the general
problem of communication
- One of the most beautiful
things about Shannon's paper is
1143
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,200
that he reduced the general
problem of communication
1144
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,920
to just two numbers: the minimum size
1145
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:08,960
you could compress a
message, it's entropy,
to just two numbers: the minimum size
1146
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,280
you could compress a
message, it's entropy,
1147
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,680
and the maximum rate you
could send it without errors,
1148
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,600
the Shannon limit.
1149
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,640
And it just started a race to find ways
1150
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,880
to reach those limits,
1151
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,080
and Bell Labs was at
the center of that race.
1152
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,280
It was the top research institute
1153
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,840
in the world for communications.
1154
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:31,880
They just invented the
transistor right down the hall
in the world for communications.
1155
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,160
They just invented the
transistor right down the hall
1156
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,880
from Shannon's office in 1947,
1157
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:36,920
the year before his paper came out.
from Shannon's office in 1947,
1158
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,960
the year before his paper came out.
1159
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,120
They were geniuses across many fields,
1160
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,640
but even there Shannon stood out.
1161
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,160
(gentle instrumental music)
1162
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,760
- I would call it the grand puzzle,
1163
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,240
that's what I call it, the Shannon puzzle.
1164
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,200
All of this great stuff where he showed
1165
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,720
that communicating
information is possible,
1166
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,880
he proved it mathematically,
1167
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,280
but he never told anyone
how to actually do it.
1168
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,800
So, that is the puzzle.
1169
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,040
It's tantalizing.
1170
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,280
You know that those codes exist,
1171
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,320
but Shannon gave really
almost no clue how to go
You know that those codes exist,
1172
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,080
but Shannon gave really
almost no clue how to go
1173
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,320
about finding them.
1174
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,720
- Of course, that only means
1175
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:27,760
that Theseus can solve any
problem that can be solved.
- Of course, that only means
1176
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,480
that Theseus can solve any
problem that can be solved.
1177
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,280
Like the rest of us, he
occasionally finds himself
1178
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,280
in a situation something like this.
1179
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,880
(intense instrumental music)
1180
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,920
- Why did you
decide to leave Bell Labs
1181
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,120
and come to MIT?
1182
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,080
(Claude sighs)
1183
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,640
- They gave me a lot of freedom at Bell,
1184
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:56,680
but I started to feel a little stale.
- They gave me a lot of freedom at Bell,
1185
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,360
but I started to feel a little stale.
1186
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,440
I also always felt that the freedom
1187
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,880
I took there was something
of a special favor.
1188
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,840
I thought at MIT...
1189
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,720
Well, the freedom in the
work hours that I took
1190
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,160
might be a little less unusual.
1191
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,400
(intense instrumental music)
1192
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,040
- In the mid '50s, MIT is a powerhouse
1193
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,600
in technology in general,
1194
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,640
and especially in information theory.
1195
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,520
They make a huge effort to
recruit Shannon and they get him.
1196
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,120
And people expect he's gonna be the leader
1197
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,040
in delivering the promise
of his 1948 paper.
1198
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,880
He's not.
1199
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,240
He writes some important
extensions of his work,
1200
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,560
but he starts coming to
campus less and less.
1201
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,120
And, in fact, at a certain point
1202
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,640
he's coming in so infrequently
1203
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,240
they actually put two graduate
students in his office.
1204
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,000
And people are having trouble
finding the codes he said had
1205
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,000
to exist, so there begins
to be some skepticism
1206
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,360
about an information theory.
1207
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,960
And everybody's wondering,
"Where's Claude Shannon?"
1208
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,680
(cheerful piano music)
1209
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,280
- When I was quite
young, he would dress up
1210
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,720
and go to work the way other people did.
1211
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,800
And then, at some point that diminished
1212
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,400
and he was home more often.
1213
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,400
At some point my mother explained
1214
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,760
that he had taken a leave from MIT.
1215
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,200
After he sort of moved on
from the more theoretical
1216
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,640
and academic work that he did,
1217
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,280
and more into things like
unicycling and juggling,
1218
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,560
many people would consider
that he wasn't working anymore,
1219
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,200
but I still think of that as his work.
1220
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,880
My dad got interested
in building all kinds
1221
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,880
of different unicycles, very small wheels,
1222
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,920
very large wheels, very
tall, short, with pedals,
1223
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,640
without pedals, with seat, without seat.
1224
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,520
And we tried to ride them all.
1225
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,720
He had an interest in unicycles
1226
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,080
because my mother bought him one,
1227
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,240
not so easy to come by
back in maybe 1950 or '51.
1228
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,120
It was sort of a running
joke when I was a child
1229
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,600
about how if I wasn't
doing too well in school
1230
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:20,640
I could always run off
and join the circus,
about how if I wasn't
doing too well in school
1231
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,200
I could always run off
and join the circus,
1232
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,920
and my parents would love that.
1233
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,000
(cheerful piano music)
1234
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,800
Before I was born he knew how to juggle,
1235
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:28,840
and he taught me how to
juggle when I was maybe eight
Before I was born he knew how to juggle,
1236
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,880
and he taught me how to
juggle when I was maybe eight
1237
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:30,920
or nine years old.
and he taught me how to
juggle when I was maybe eight
1238
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,280
or nine years old.
1239
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,840
He also started trying to
build machines to juggle.
1240
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,880
- Juggling relates to patterns.
1241
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,840
There's a topology and
a combinatorial aspect.
1242
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:40,880
I wrote a paper for Scientific American.
There's a topology and
a combinatorial aspect.
1243
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,400
I wrote a paper for Scientific American.
1244
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:43,440
(cheerful piano music)
(toy rattling)
I wrote a paper for Scientific American.
1245
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,280
(cheerful piano music)
(toy rattling)
1246
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560
Oh, come on, Mr. Fields.
1247
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,160
(cheerful piano music)
(toy rattling)
1248
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,360
Ah.
1249
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,400
I came up with a formula for juggling
1250
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,520
that relates the number
of balls you're juggling
1251
00:59:59,520 --> 00:59:59,560
to how long each is in the
air versus in the hand.
that relates the number
of balls you're juggling
1252
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,440
to how long each is in the
air versus in the hand.
1253
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,440
- Did you ever think
1254
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,080
about commercializing your inventions?
1255
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,520
- Oh, fiddle, we don't believe
in commercializing fun.
1256
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,320
(Claude chuckles)
1257
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:11,360
- You didn't worry
(Claude chuckles)
1258
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,120
- You didn't worry
1259
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,440
that they might not be practical?
1260
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:13,480
- Well, that'd be the last thing.
that they might not be practical?
1261
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,800
- Well, that'd be the last thing.
1262
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,200
I built a lot of useless gadgets
1263
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,800
just because they're fun to make.
1264
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,440
I'm more interested in, is
this an interesting problem?
1265
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,600
Is it an elegant problem?
1266
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:27,640
I get a big bang out of proving a theory
Is it an elegant problem?
1267
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,240
I get a big bang out of proving a theory
1268
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,640
or seeing a clever way to do something.
1269
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,400
I make my money in the stock market,
1270
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,520
not by proving theorems.
1271
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,800
- You play the stock market?
1272
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,600
You're interested in making money?
1273
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:40,440
- Oh, sure.
1274
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:41,240
Aren't you?
1275
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,720
- Were you ever successful?
1276
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,760
- Beyond reasonable expectations.
1277
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,560
(Claude chuckles)
1278
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:47,600
- I even did some work
on the theory of stocks.
(Claude chuckles)
1279
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,760
- I even did some work
on the theory of stocks.
1280
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,840
In a certain way it's
like channel capacity
1281
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,600
in a noisy channel.
1282
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,480
- You found that you
1283
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,840
could apply information
theory to the stock market?
1284
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,920
- Inside information.
1285
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,880
- We had good friends who
started good companies.
1286
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:05,920
- Yeah.
- We had good friends who
started good companies.
1287
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,880
- Yeah.
1288
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,360
The bottom line is that
theories aren't as important
1289
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,440
as products or people.
1290
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,440
(gentle instrumental music)
1291
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,000
- In the '60s and '70s
Shannon's ideas began
1292
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,640
to have a lot of impact.
1293
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,160
Computers are shrinking
from the size of rooms,
1294
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,680
data is being compressed
and stored on drives
1295
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:27,720
and CDs that could be
scratched and still play.
data is being compressed
and stored on drives
1296
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,160
and CDs that could be
scratched and still play.
1297
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,840
The Voyager satellite is
sending images billions
1298
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,400
of miles back to Earth.
1299
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,520
But when it comes to finding the codes
1300
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,720
that could get you anywhere
near the Shannon limit,
1301
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,320
there's a lot of frustration.
1302
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,280
A lot of very talented
people, over decades,
1303
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,600
tried and failed to find
the codes he said existed.
1304
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,920
By the 1980s there's a sense
1305
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,760
that maybe we've reached
a practical limit,
1306
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,720
a real world boundary
you can't get through.
1307
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,520
The Shannon limit is beautiful,
an elegant theoretical idea,
1308
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,000
but it's unattainable.
1309
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,440
So people began to lose faith and wonder,
1310
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,760
"Is information theory dead?"
1311
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:15,800
And they begin to abandon
information theory and,
"Is information theory dead?"
1312
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,480
And they begin to abandon
information theory and,
1313
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,280
in a sense, abandon Shannon too.
1314
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,040
- It seems like after your big discoveries
1315
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,440
you stopped really working
on information theory.
1316
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,080
Is that because you just grew tired of it?
1317
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,160
- Well, the first part is right,
that I didn't do much work
1318
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,680
on it later, but, you know, most
1319
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:43,720
of the great mathematicians
have done their finest work
on it later, but, you know, most
1320
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,600
of the great mathematicians
have done their finest work
1321
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,000
in their '20s and '30s and not so much
1322
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,440
when they're older, like athletes.
1323
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,000
Although, I've just recently
taken up jogging. (chuckles)
1324
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,080
- But it seems like you
spend a lot more time working
1325
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,760
on your gadgets now.
1326
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,560
- I have a lot of things
I like to spend time on.
1327
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,720
The intelligent machine
idea is my big interest now.
1328
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,960
The transformation of information
that a human brain does,
1329
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,120
not just the transmission, how
the brain works or doesn't.
1330
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,800
I think that's the biggest challenge now.
1331
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,640
(bleeping)
1332
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,040
Simulating the human brain.
1333
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,240
Alan Turing and I often had
lunch together and we'd talk
1334
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:31,280
about if you could get a computer
the equivalent of a brain,
Alan Turing and I often had
lunch together and we'd talk
1335
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,320
about if you could get a computer
the equivalent of a brain,
1336
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800
a human brain, or even a lot better.
1337
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:37,840
I wrote a paper about how a
computer could play chess.
a human brain, or even a lot better.
1338
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,680
I wrote a paper about how a
computer could play chess.
1339
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,680
I have a standing bet
1340
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,720
that a computer will beat
the grand champion by 2001.
1341
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:46,760
(big band music)
that a computer will beat
the grand champion by 2001.
1342
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,280
(big band music)
1343
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,160
- Back in 1949, when computers were first
1344
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,680
becoming available, Shannon had the vision
1345
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:53,720
that it would be great to
program one of these contraptions
becoming available, Shannon had the vision
1346
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,480
that it would be great to
program one of these contraptions
1347
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,440
to play the complicated,
difficult game of chess.
1348
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,440
He laid out a complete roadmap
1349
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,320
of how to build a chess program.
1350
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,960
- Of course, being Claude
Shannon, it's not enough
1351
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,120
to just write a paper, he also builds one
1352
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,760
of the world's first successful
chess-playing computers.
1353
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,240
Now, computers weren't
powerful enough at the time
1354
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,200
to play a full game of chess,
1355
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:20,240
so his computer can only play
the last six moves of a game.
to play a full game of chess,
1356
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,200
so his computer can only play
the last six moves of a game.
1357
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,800
He calls it End Game, because
that's what it can play.
1358
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,520
It took eight years from
when End Game was completed
1359
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,360
to when someone else came
and used Shannon's ideas
1360
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,960
to build a computer that could
play a full game of chess.
1361
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,320
- Shannon observed that although chess
1362
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,360
is incredibly complicated,
the astronomical number
- Shannon observed that although chess
1363
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,600
is incredibly complicated,
the astronomical number
1364
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,320
of possible chess games,
and he calculated those,
1365
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,360
you don't have to look all
the way to the end of the game
1366
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:47,400
to figure out what a good
move is, you only have
you don't have to look all
the way to the end of the game
1367
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,160
to figure out what a good
move is, you only have
1368
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,160
to look ahead a few moves
and conduct some sort
1369
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,720
of evaluation about the
possible moves you could reach
1370
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,360
and find the path that
leads to the best one.
1371
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,520
This principle became the
basis for every chess program
1372
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,960
that came after it.
1373
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:04,000
(big band music)
that came after it.
1374
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,640
(big band music)
1375
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,840
- When you've done something
like Shannon did in '48
1376
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,080
and then again, or earlier
in '45, I mean, cryptography
1377
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,120
and information theory, what
do you do for an encore?
and then again, or earlier
in '45, I mean, cryptography
1378
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,040
and information theory, what
do you do for an encore?
1379
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,680
It's really hard.
1380
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,360
And I think people are waiting
for either something good
1381
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,680
to come out, or some
people who, maybe jealous,
1382
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,880
are waiting for you to fall down and say,
1383
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,520
"See, he's a has been."
1384
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,600
- There is that small contusion
of people though who say,
1385
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,320
"Well, you know, Shannon worked
on information theory alone
1386
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:41,360
"in private for 10 years,
"Well, you know, Shannon worked
on information theory alone
1387
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,160
"in private for 10 years,
1388
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,920
"and then dropped this great
achievement on everyone's lap
1389
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:45,960
"without telling a
soul, maybe, just maybe,
"and then dropped this great
achievement on everyone's lap
1390
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,160
"without telling a
soul, maybe, just maybe,
1391
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,000
"he's up to something again, like that,
1392
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,080
"that he's working on something.
1393
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,680
"Could it be that he just has
a project that he's working on
1394
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,920
"that he hasn't told anyone about?"
1395
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,320
- Do you wanna see the
first wearable computer?
1396
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,080
- Okay.
1397
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,480
- I built this with Ed Thorp,
1398
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,400
who was a professor here at MIT.
1399
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,560
Ed had a paper he wanted to
get published about blackjack
1400
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,760
in the proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences.
1401
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:15,800
Since I was the only member
of the academy at the time
in the proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences.
1402
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,360
Since I was the only member
of the academy at the time
1403
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,760
at MIT, he asked for my help.
1404
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,640
We got to talking, and it turns out
1405
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:23,680
he had some pretty interesting
ideas about roulette, too.
We got to talking, and it turns out
1406
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,120
he had some pretty interesting
ideas about roulette, too.
1407
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,680
(intense tropical music)
1408
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:29,720
- My father was very
interested in gambling.
(intense tropical music)
1409
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,600
- My father was very
interested in gambling.
1410
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,800
He loved con men, he loved that sort
1411
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:34,840
of shadier side of people.
He loved con men, he loved that sort
1412
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,440
of shadier side of people.
1413
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,480
Not interested in violence at all,
1414
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,560
he was interested in cleverness.
1415
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,040
So, movies that captured that
cleverness, like "Topkapi"
1416
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,800
or "The Music Man", were favorites of his.
1417
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,800
So, he ordered a roulette
wheel from Las Vegas
1418
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,760
and they set it up in the
basement with a strobe light
1419
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,200
and went to work on a wearable computer
1420
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,640
that could try to improve
the odds for roulette.
1421
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:05,440
- Our little computer could
time the speed of the wheel
1422
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,240
and the speed of the ball
in the other direction.
1423
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,760
It's a simple dynamic system
with very little friction.
1424
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:11,800
We discovered that nearly
all roulette tables
It's a simple dynamic system
with very little friction.
1425
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,080
We discovered that nearly
all roulette tables
1426
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,840
are slightly tilted, so we
could predict two thirds
1427
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,960
of the time which half of the
wheel the ball would fall in.
1428
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,000
The computer would be in my pocket,
of the time which half of the
wheel the ball would fall in.
1429
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,360
The computer would be in my pocket,
1430
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,920
and these little wires
would run down my pant leg
1431
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:26,960
into my shoe, and there was
a little switch in there
and these little wires
would run down my pant leg
1432
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,640
into my shoe, and there was
a little switch in there
1433
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,080
that I operated with my big toe.
1434
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,880
And then these ran up to a
little loud speaker in my ear,
1435
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,880
and the computer would send
one of the eight musical notes
1436
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,120
of the scale to mark the
octants in the wheel.
1437
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,440
Ed had a little loud
speaker in his ear, too,
1438
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,760
and I operated the computer,
and Ed placed the bets
1439
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:49,800
and pretended he didn't know me.
and I operated the computer,
and Ed placed the bets
1440
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,520
and pretended he didn't know me.
1441
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,800
(intense tropical music)
1442
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,560
We had some practical problems
when we headed to Las Vegas.
1443
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,400
The wires going down my
pant leg kept shorting
1444
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:03,800
and giving me little shocks.
1445
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,800
(all laugh)
1446
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,440
- And Ed's speaker fell out of his ear,
1447
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,400
and he nearly scared this lady to death,
1448
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,600
because she thought it
was some alien insect.
1449
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:12,640
(all laugh)
because she thought it
was some alien insect.
1450
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,840
(all laugh)
1451
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,320
We were lucky we didn't get arrested.
1452
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:18,680
(all laugh)
1453
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,680
(intense tropical music)
1454
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:22,480
- He said this at one point,
1455
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:22,520
he wasn't interested in practicality.
- He said this at one point,
1456
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,320
he wasn't interested in practicality.
1457
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,640
I don't think that was
quite what he meant.
1458
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,240
He was very interested in
what's needed to be practical,
1459
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,840
but he didn't wanna spend
his life starting a company.
1460
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:40,880
He knew that that wasn't
the right thing for him.
but he didn't wanna spend
his life starting a company.
1461
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,480
He knew that that wasn't
the right thing for him.
1462
01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:45,320
People who start companies have
1463
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,440
to feel a very strong competitive
urge, they have to want
1464
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:53,240
to beat other people, and he
was not a competitive person.
1465
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,600
He was a person who,
whenever you talked to him,
1466
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,120
he was not trying to
dominate you intellectually,
1467
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:06,920
he was very much a
cooperator, not a competitor.
1468
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:11,400
He really was interested
in practical things.
1469
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:11,440
All the things he built
were very practical.
He really was interested
in practical things.
1470
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:13,680
All the things he built
were very practical.
1471
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,640
His maze, a toy, yes, but it was a toy
1472
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,400
that illustrated some
very interesting things.
1473
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,960
His chess-playing machine, again, a toy,
1474
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,240
but artificial intelligence people
1475
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:27,280
just learned so many things from that,
but artificial intelligence people
1476
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,080
just learned so many things from that,
1477
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,000
and it was highly useful.
1478
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,680
His cryptography during
the second World War,
1479
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,600
the fact that it wasn't
very practical then
1480
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,160
is almost irrelevant.
1481
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:38,200
He still wrote the best
paper on cryptography
is almost irrelevant.
1482
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,120
He still wrote the best
paper on cryptography
1483
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:41,160
that's been written yet.
He still wrote the best
paper on cryptography
1484
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:42,880
that's been written yet.
1485
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,720
- He asked questions that no one asked,
1486
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,120
and that was an amazing thing.
1487
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,920
The questions are very
meaningful, and he answered them,
1488
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:48,960
and no one thought those questions
The questions are very
meaningful, and he answered them,
1489
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,200
and no one thought those questions
1490
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,280
could be answered that way.
1491
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,240
- Practical or playful?
1492
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,560
It's a silly question in most cases.
1493
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,520
He was into understanding.
1494
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,160
- What do
you think about the idea
1495
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,400
that a machine might one
day outthink a human?
1496
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,360
- Well, I'm
rooting for the machines.
1497
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,120
- But do you think a
machine would ever come up
1498
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,160
with the idea of a flaming trumpet?
- But do you think a
machine would ever come up
1499
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,640
with the idea of a flaming trumpet?
1500
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,200
(Claude chuckles)
1501
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,600
- I think that creative
stuff is a long way off,
1502
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:30,400
but in the meantime they
can be a boon to humanity.
1503
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,080
(Claude sighs)
1504
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:33,120
And I'd like to see that
happen as soon as possible.
(Claude sighs)
1505
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,400
And I'd like to see that
happen as soon as possible.
1506
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,720
- Shannon's Master's
thesis lays the foundation
1507
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,840
for this idea that machines
could be made to think,
1508
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:45,880
that they could capably
mimic a human brain.
for this idea that machines
could be made to think,
1509
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,440
that they could capably
mimic a human brain.
1510
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:51,760
And he himself invents
devices that mimic a brain.
1511
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,040
There's Theseus, the mouse
that can navigate its way
1512
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,360
through a maze, there's
End Game, the computer
1513
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,160
that can play the last
six moves in a chess game,
1514
01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:04,360
but it's at precisely the time
when artificial intelligence
1515
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:04,400
and computing is taking off
but it's at precisely the time
when artificial intelligence
1516
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,240
and computing is taking off
1517
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,320
that Shannon is on the sidelines.
1518
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:10,360
Even though information
theory was being applied
that Shannon is on the sidelines.
1519
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,040
Even though information
theory was being applied
1520
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:13,080
in ways beyond what
Shannon could've imagined.
Even though information
theory was being applied
1521
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,320
in ways beyond what
Shannon could've imagined.
1522
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,680
- I heard that one
of your last papers proved
1523
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,360
that you could make a reliable circuit
1524
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,680
from faulty components.
1525
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,280
Do you think that this
might have applications
1526
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,120
for the brain?
1527
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,680
(Claude chuckles)
1528
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,480
- I hope so.
1529
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,640
I mean, the brain can
suffer all kinds of damage
1530
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,440
and still handle things pretty well,
1531
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:37,040
which means there must be redundancy.
1532
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,160
The fact that the brain
has 10 billion neurons
1533
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,560
probably means that it
was cheaper for biology
1534
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,920
to just make more components than
1535
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:45,960
to figure out sophisticated circuits.
to just make more components than
1536
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,200
to figure out sophisticated circuits.
1537
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:50,240
Trying to work out all
the different connections
to figure out sophisticated circuits.
1538
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,200
Trying to work out all
the different connections
1539
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:58,000
would be astronomical, impossible,
1540
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,680
but if we can find patterns,
1541
01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:08,280
well, there may be ways
to simplify things.
1542
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,600
- If we look at the data in the brain,
1543
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,880
all the data is
interrelated to each other.
1544
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,920
So, there's a huge amount of redundancy.
1545
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,040
If I have this type of
neuron there, it tells me
1546
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:21,080
that there's another kind of neuron there,
If I have this type of
neuron there, it tells me
1547
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,440
that there's another kind of neuron there,
1548
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,360
and this kind of neuron,
and this one's not there,
1549
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:24,400
and this one's not there.
and this kind of neuron,
and this one's not there,
1550
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,440
and this one's not there.
1551
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,320
So, we develop rules
1552
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,480
that decide this is how neurons connect.
1553
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,120
We take that brain model,
1554
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,600
and we basically attach it
to a virtual mouse body.
1555
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,920
The virtual mouse body has
simple models of the eyes
1556
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,080
and the ears and the skin and the whiskers
1557
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:43,120
so they can receive sensory input,
and the ears and the skin and the whiskers
1558
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,560
so they can receive sensory input,
1559
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,160
then you let the virtual mouse loose
1560
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,200
to start running through the maze.
then you let the virtual mouse loose
1561
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,040
to start running through the maze.
1562
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:50,080
So, in that way it's quite similar
to start running through the maze.
1563
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,960
So, in that way it's quite similar
1564
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,320
to what Shannon did nearly 60 years ago.
1565
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,920
Einstein's theory of general relativity,
1566
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,880
he had an enormous impact
on society and the world
1567
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,120
and physics, and pretty
much how the world is today.
1568
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,240
But I think that we haven't
even begun to see the kind
1569
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,400
of impact that Shannon is
going to have on society,
1570
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,840
because I think the more
we understand how...
1571
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:16,880
Understanding entropy and
using information theory
because I think the more
we understand how...
1572
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,760
Understanding entropy and
using information theory
1573
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,880
to help us understand complex systems,
1574
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:23,920
such as the brain or biology or diseases,
to help us understand complex systems,
1575
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,240
such as the brain or biology or diseases,
1576
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,480
I think that this is gonna
open an amazing new door.
1577
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,880
- Most physicists didn't
really care about information
1578
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,480
as a primary focus for many, many years.
1579
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:45,840
Even most people thinking about abstruse,
1580
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,240
esoteric questions in fundamental physics,
1581
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,360
but that really changed in the 1980s
1582
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:49,400
when a lot of people focused
but that really changed in the 1980s
1583
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:50,680
when a lot of people focused
1584
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,560
on the famous black hole
information paradox.
1585
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,800
If you collide particles
with enough energy,
1586
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,960
(whooshing)
1587
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:03,200
they'll have so much mass that
they'll collapse the region
1588
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,280
that they collided in into a black hole.
1589
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,240
In a classical world, nothing
can get out of the black hole,
1590
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,280
even something going at the
speed of light could not get out
1591
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:13,320
of a black hole.
even something going at the
speed of light could not get out
1592
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,080
of a black hole.
1593
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,200
But Stephen Hawking showed
1594
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,600
that quantum-mechanically
black holes leak,
1595
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,720
but what came out of the black hole
1596
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:21,760
is completely independent
of what made the black hole,
but what came out of the black hole
1597
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,320
is completely independent
of what made the black hole,
1598
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:24,360
and one was left with a major paradox.
is completely independent
of what made the black hole,
1599
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,640
and one was left with a major paradox.
1600
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:26,680
Where did the information about
what made the black hole go?
and one was left with a major paradox.
1601
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,600
Where did the information about
what made the black hole go?
1602
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:30,520
Right?
1603
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:30,560
Because seemingly you
could make a black hole
Right?
1604
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,680
Because seemingly you
could make a black hole
1605
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:32,600
in a zillion different ways.
1606
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,200
You could throw in an elephant,
1607
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,000
you could throw in an encyclopedia,
1608
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:35,040
but what came out always
looked exactly the same.
you could throw in an encyclopedia,
1609
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,560
but what came out always
looked exactly the same.
1610
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,120
It looked like information was lost.
1611
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,200
And that is a no-no.
1612
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,360
That cannot happen
according to any of the laws
1613
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,680
of either classical or quantum mechanics.
1614
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,240
And in order to decide whether
the information is lost
1615
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,680
or not, one thing that
became apparent eventually is
1616
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,400
that thinking more carefully
about what the information was
1617
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:55,440
and very much making use of the ideas
that thinking more carefully
about what the information was
1618
01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,680
and very much making use of the ideas
1619
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,920
of entropy ended up being very important.
1620
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,640
What's clear is that information
1621
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,520
in physics is more important
1622
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,640
than you would naively have thought.
1623
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,640
And many of the most
fundamental ideas really go back
1624
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:10,680
to Shannon.
And many of the most
fundamental ideas really go back
1625
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:11,440
to Shannon.
1626
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:17,440
- In 1993, I was finishing up my PhD.
1627
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:18,960
I was one year away from graduating,
1628
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,360
and I went to a communications conference.
1629
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,600
It wasn't an information
theory conference.
1630
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,320
It was in Switzerland and
it's a very big conference,
1631
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,760
so there's maybe 800 or
900 people that attend.
1632
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,800
There's usually 10 to 12 parallel sessions
1633
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:32,840
on everything from what's
the next generation
There's usually 10 to 12 parallel sessions
1634
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,760
on everything from what's
the next generation
1635
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,320
of cell phone standards gonna look like
1636
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,680
to more mathematical types of talks
1637
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,920
in more theoretical dimensions.
1638
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,360
So, I went to this session
'cause there was nothing else
1639
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:46,400
to see, and maybe there was
one person in the session
So, I went to this session
'cause there was nothing else
1640
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,840
to see, and maybe there was
one person in the session
1641
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,120
that I thought was a good speaker.
1642
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,000
So I thought, "Okay, I'll
go listen to that talk."
1643
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,040
And there was a presentation.
So I thought, "Okay, I'll
go listen to that talk."
1644
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,480
And there was a presentation.
1645
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:57,200
I didn't know any of the
authors, they were really unknown
1646
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,000
to information theorists,
coding theorists,
1647
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,160
nobody knew who they were.
1648
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,320
And these guys that got up,
they were two French guys
1649
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,280
and one guy from Thailand who nobody knew.
1650
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:05,320
I mean, they were completely unknown.
and one guy from Thailand who nobody knew.
1651
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,960
I mean, they were completely unknown.
1652
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,520
And so, most people were probably
chatting with each other,
1653
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:09,560
and maybe there were a few
people paying attention.
And so, most people were probably
chatting with each other,
1654
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,080
and maybe there were a few
people paying attention.
1655
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:12,120
And they get up and they say
and maybe there were a few
people paying attention.
1656
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,040
And they get up and they say
1657
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,280
they basically achieved the Shannon limit,
1658
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,800
and everybody was incredibly skeptical.
1659
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:17,840
We're like, "Oh, there must be a mistake
and everybody was incredibly skeptical.
1660
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,120
We're like, "Oh, there must be a mistake
1661
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,280
"in their simulations, or, you know,
1662
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:22,520
"they don't know what
they're talking about,
1663
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,520
"or their math is wrong."
1664
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,200
- It was such a shock
that people were just,
1665
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:27,240
"It doesn't make any
sense, this ugly thing."
- It was such a shock
that people were just,
1666
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,560
"It doesn't make any
sense, this ugly thing."
1667
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:29,600
- It was mostly an experimental result.
"It doesn't make any
sense, this ugly thing."
1668
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,000
- It was mostly an experimental result.
1669
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,080
And the idea was to take
multiple simple things
1670
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,920
and combine them in a way
1671
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,840
that created this very complex code.
1672
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:41,880
And then they showed
their simulation results,
that created this very complex code.
1673
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,120
And then they showed
their simulation results,
1674
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,760
which basically hit the Shannon
limit, and it was amazing.
1675
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,280
(intense instrumental music)
1676
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,120
50 years on, the final
piece of Shannon's vision
1677
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,640
of the future was proved to be true.
1678
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,400
You could have perfect communication
1679
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,120
with as little errors as you wanted.
1680
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,520
- Actually, everything that
Shannon has predicted back
1681
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:06,560
in 1948 came true.
- Actually, everything that
Shannon has predicted back
1682
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,320
in 1948 came true.
1683
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,720
He's completely vindicated.
1684
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,400
- Anytime you store, process,
1685
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,000
or transmit information in digital form,
1686
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,800
every time you save a file
on a hard drive, play a CD
1687
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,800
or DVD, talk on a cell phone,
send an email, Tweet, text,
1688
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,000
Instagram, the wireless revolution,
1689
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,760
you're relying on the concepts
in Shannon's 1948 paper.
1690
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,120
- Millions of people spend huge chunks
1691
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,240
of their day consuming the codes
1692
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,280
that Claude Shannon said had to be there.
1693
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,360
Information is everything to us.
1694
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,240
- And today, everyone
carries Shannon around
1695
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,560
in their pocket.
1696
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:08,840
- Wow!
1697
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,360
- My ultimate machine.
1698
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,000
(machine buzzing)
1699
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,360
(snapping)
1700
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,160
- (chuckles) What?
1701
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,280
- You know what Fats Waller
said about swing music,
1702
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:28,320
don't you, Michelle?
- You know what Fats Waller
said about swing music,
1703
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,480
don't you, Michelle?
1704
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:30,280
- Oh, no.
1705
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,480
- "Either you got it or you ain't."
1706
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:35,600
- Uh.
1707
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:41,160
(machine buzzing)
1708
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,520
(gentle instrumental music)
1709
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:52,160
- I often wonder if
Claude Shannon understood
1710
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,040
how much information there would be
1711
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,040
after his many discoveries.
1712
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:57,080
I wonder, did he understand
after his many discoveries.
1713
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,360
I wonder, did he understand
1714
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,080
that we would have this
information explosion?
1715
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:01,120
That in the last couple
that we would have this
information explosion?
1716
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,200
That in the last couple
1717
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:02,240
of years we've generated
more information than the sum
That in the last couple
1718
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,840
of years we've generated
more information than the sum
1719
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,160
of all human history.
1720
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,800
Literally, he not only won the lottery,
1721
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:08,840
he invented the lottery.
Literally, he not only won the lottery,
1722
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,120
he invented the lottery.
1723
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,560
(gentle instrumental music)
1724
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:29,400
- When I was starting my
PhD program at Harvard,
1725
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,320
and this would've been 1992,
1726
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,680
so my father already had Alzheimer's
1727
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,640
and was already fairly
compromised in terms
1728
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,880
of his cognitive ability,
he asked me what I was going
1729
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,360
to be working on, and at the
time I was working on a project
1730
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,000
about how the magnetic
field of the earth flips
1731
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,280
from time to time, approximately
every million years,
1732
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,160
I was astonished at
how quickly he was able
1733
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,200
to ask the very core
questions of the problem,
I was astonished at
how quickly he was able
1734
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,720
to ask the very core
questions of the problem,
1735
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,960
he cut right to it, and I was amazed.
1736
01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:01,600
And I thought, "This is fantastic.
1737
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:06,320
"I'm going to have this fabulous
mind at my side (chuckles)
1738
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:06,360
"while I go through graduate school.
"I'm going to have this fabulous
mind at my side (chuckles)
1739
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:07,720
"while I go through graduate school.
1740
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,120
"This is gonna be so
much fun for both of us."
1741
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,720
Alas, he was not able to
continue that kind of questioning
1742
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,960
or even thinking for very much longer,
1743
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,480
so I didn't in fact have him
at my side for graduate school.
1744
01:20:21,480 --> 01:20:24,480
But I remember very clearly
that conversation and thinking,
1745
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:25,520
"Wow!
1746
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,240
"That's something."
1747
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,280
(gentle instrumental music)
"That's something."
1748
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,800
(gentle instrumental music)
1749
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,840
- There's science fiction
books in which the dates
1750
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,560
of things are so many years A.S.,
1751
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:45,600
and the A.S. stands for After Shannon.
of things are so many years A.S.,
1752
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,400
and the A.S. stands for After Shannon.
1753
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,920
In some sense, if you look
at the human civilization,
1754
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,120
the sudden change in human
civilization that was created
1755
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,760
by the digital revolution, computers,
1756
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,520
happened at such a short period of time
1757
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,840
that there's nothing else
like that in history.
1758
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,280
So, it could very well be
that historically people
1759
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,760
will look back and say,
"What happened there?"
1760
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,840
And if you were going
to tie it to anybody,
1761
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,080
Shannon is the one that gave us the tools
1762
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,440
that people would still
be using in the future.
1763
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:24,480
So, it's not so implausible
that people would still
be using in the future.
1764
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,080
So, it's not so implausible
1765
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:30,880
that people would start
measuring years after Shannon.
1766
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,720
(gentle instrumental music)
1767
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,200
- Inventing something
1768
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:40,000
is like sending a message
in a bottle into the future.
1769
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,600
(gentle jazz music)
1770
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,480
- I think it was special
1771
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,920
that he had both the ability and interest
1772
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,520
in theoretical mathematics
and this passion for building.
1773
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,920
In a way that a toddler
would explore the world,
1774
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,520
he didn't lose that childlike
curiosity and delight
1775
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:01,560
in learning things, discovering things,
he didn't lose that childlike
curiosity and delight
1776
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,680
in learning things, discovering things,
1777
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,040
putting things together,
making connections.
1778
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,920
(gentle jazz music)
1779
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,680
(intense instrumental music)
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