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I miss her.
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It hurts.
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I see Necole every night.
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I pray every night, Necole.
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I pray
that whoever did this to you,
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God have mercy on 'em.
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To this day,
it's been eight years.
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It'll be eight years,
and nothing's been done.
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Kristen was a lovable child.
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She got murdered
when she was 21.
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Eleven years gone by
and nothing.
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Something don't add up.
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I mean, why eight girls killed
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in a span of four years
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and nothing?
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On none of 'em.
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I don't think
that the police trying
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to find out what really
happened to those eight women.
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They're not trying to...
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to find the answer.
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They act like it doesn't matter
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'cause it wasn't their sister,
wasn't their daughter.
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Whoever's all involved, they
all got to feel untouchable
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right now because nobody's
doing nothing about it.
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With Loretta,
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nobody's ever been charged.
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They have never arrested anyone
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in Whitnei's death. Never.
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I keep praying for that day.
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They get up every day,
and they go on
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like it's just another day.
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But, you see, every day for us
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is like that day that we lost
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our child.
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Every day is like that.
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Thirteen years.
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We've got nothing.
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Why?
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Jennings is an odd place.
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You hear
these really outlandish theories
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that, as soon as you're
hearing them, you think,
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"Well, this can't be true. This
just doesn't make any sense."
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And then they check out.
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You don't know
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what to trust of your own
judgment pretty quickly.
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There is something
about Jennings
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that obviously doesn't exist
in other places.
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People will tell me,
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"Well, it's just happenstance.
We just...
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That was just the luck
of the draw."
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I-I can't swallow that.
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You can't have eight murders
that happen,
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one of which under the eye
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of the FBI
while they're in town,
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without something
being fundamentally flawed
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about the situation
that's in Jennings.
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The years of these
eight homicides going unsolved
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raise significant questions
about law enforcement
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and what they knew.
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You look at the Boudreaux Inn.
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In the Jeff Davis 8 era,
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the Boudreaux Inn
was the place in town to go
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for sex and drugs.
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And everybody knew it.
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It seems impossible to believe
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that the Jennings police
or the sheriff's office
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were not aware
that this was going on.
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So many years
after the first homicide,
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what was still keeping
these cases from being solved?
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By 2011,
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Ricky Edwards was facing
a lot of criticism,
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even from the parish elites,
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about his handling
of the Jeff Davis 8 case.
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The years of bad publicity
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had taken a toll,
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and it was finally the end
for Ricky Edwards
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as Jeff Davis Parish sheriff.
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There is a sheriff's election.
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A man named Ivy Woods,
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who's with
the Louisiana State Police,
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runs for sheriff.
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As soon as I take
the office of sheriff,
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I plan to go into...
to the records
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and see what's all done
in investigations
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and keep the ongoing task force
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working on the investigation
on these murders.
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Woods campaigned
specifically on a promise
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to dedicate resources
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to the Jeff Davis 8 case
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and to bring justice
to the case.
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...as sheriff,
Jefferson Davis Parish,
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state of Louisiana,
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according to the best
of your ability
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and understanding,
so help you God?
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I do.
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I thought Ivy Woods
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would've busted this open.
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That was his big thing.
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We're gonna bring
new people in, you know,
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we're gonna let new cops come in
and look at these cases.
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Maybe we overseen something,
and they'll pick it up.
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But you still haven't
heard nothing.
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He hasn't done nothing, either.
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My boss, Ivy Woods,
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and the investigators
that we have on this case,
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wanted nothing more than
to solve one or all.
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That's been one
of the-the biggest hurdles,
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is getting people
to want to talk to us.
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I think there was a black cloud
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over the task force
and the investigators
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and the former
sheriff's administration.
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People felt
that they couldn't trust 'em.
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They would not talk to 'em
and not give 'em information.
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It hampered the investigators
to be able to do their job
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because people didn't want
to talk to 'em.
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The single most
disturbing aspect
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of the case, investigatively,
is that,
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contrary to the law enforcement
narrative
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that they don't
really have anything,
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they've got quite a lot.
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There are shockingly
concrete statements
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from witnesses
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who have firsthand knowledge
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of the homicides.
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I ended up in a-a
rehab in Logansport, Louisiana.
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I went there to try
to get help to get sober.
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Get clean off the dr--
the crack cocaine.
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While I was there,
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Frankie Richard shows up there
in a, in a-- coming to rehab.
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At that time, I kind of thought
Frankie was really sincere
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about trying to get help.
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Frankie was in charge
of the laundry,
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so he had a laundry room
and he had a little coffeepot
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and everything set up in there,
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and we would go sit in there
and visit and talk.
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While we were sitting in there
drinking coffee,
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Frankie did confess
to killing Whitnei Dubois.
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He said he had beaten
and killed Whitnei
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at his mama's house
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in a camper trailer
on the side,
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where his brother Billy
used to stay.
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And that he had placed her
in a 55-gallon drum
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behind his mama's house.
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And he also confessed
to killing Kristen.
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He never went into detail of
what took place about Kristen.
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I didn't, I didn't get
into details with him,
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I just listened to what
he would speak of.
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Frankie wasn't a person
you pushed for answers.
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The next morning,
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I told the administrators there
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you know,
that Frankie had confessed,
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and it wasn't the--
wasn't even the next morning,
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Frankie was gone.
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They came and picked him up
and brought him home.
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To this day,
I don't know if anything
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ever been done about it.
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It doesn't make sense.
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People have put themselves
at risk
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by going to the task force,
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have given information
to the task force
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that is credible,
and that information
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just goes into a black hole.
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I was a Louisiana
state trooper for 20 years.
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I retired as a deputy commander
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with the state police.
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When these murders
first started happening,
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I and my wife, like
everybody else, were concerned.
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We watched the news, we listened
to all the different reports,
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but we assumed that the-the
sheriff and the task force
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were gonna get
to the bottom of the this
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and that they were
doing their job.
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But as time elapsed,
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I was alarmed and-and
quite frankly, disgusted
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that nothing had been done.
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Nothing had been solved.
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I was a Louisiana state trooper
for 20 years,
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dealing with, um, gambling
and prostitution and narcotics.
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I saw all these girls
getting killed
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and wondered
what-what was going on.
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Why wasn't something done?
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I just didn't quite understand
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why they could not
have solved these crimes.
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I got to talking to Tanny,
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and found out
that he was interested
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and had been for some time.
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After talking to certain people
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in Jeff Davis Parish,
confidential informers,
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families of these people
that were killed,
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I thought,
"Let's look at it again,
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and let's find out
who still may be involved,
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that's still alive."
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Anybody that you talk
to in this investigation,
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Terrie Guillory's name
always comes up.
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There were allegations
while he was a warden
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that he was having sex
with some of the girls.
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I would say that a warden
having sex with inmates
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would be malfeasance
at the least.
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And then,
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we found out that there was
a lawsuit in federal court
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about sexual misconduct
in the jail
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when Terrie Guillory
was there as the warden.
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As alleged in her lawsuit,
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it was just one week
into her stay in jail
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when Lisa says jail guard
Mark Ivory first assaulted her.
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You know,
I figured it would be handled.
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This was
Sheriff Edwards' response
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when I asked him
about the case Tuesday.
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It's very surprising that I did
not know about it at the time,
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but I won't go into any
specifics about it at this time.
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The litigation
was eventually settled,
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but not before accused jailer
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Mark Ivory took his own life.
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I think it was
a practice in the jail
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to abuse the girls,
to have sex with them.
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I was able to pull documents
that shows
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this went back to 2002,
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when a deputy was charged
for having sex
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and abusing these girls
in the jail.
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Bucky and Tanny
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brought this case
to my attention.
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The case resulted
in a plea deal
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to malfeasance in office.
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Terrie Guillory was not
the warden at this time,
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but he conducted
investigative interviews.
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And one of the witnesses
was his cousin,
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victim number eight,
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Necole Guillory.
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Necole's second home
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was the jailhouse.
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But she told me that
she would rather be in jail,
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because she was safe.
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She felt safe there.
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And Necole told me that
she would literally do things
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to get put in jail.
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Necole Guillory was the last
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of the Jeff Davis 8 victims
in 2009.
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She said that she knew
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who was perpetrating
these murders,
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from the very first victim
in 2005.
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After Loretta's murder,
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Necole's closest family members
said Necole
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became extremely paranoid,
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so paranoid, in fact,
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that she locked herself
in her room
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for nearly two weeks.
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Necole told us
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that she saw someone murdered.
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She told my o-oldest daughter
that, too--
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that she saw someone murdered.
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When Necole would start to talk,
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she would clam up.
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When she realized
what she was doing,
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she would stop talking.
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This is yet another thing
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that these women knew
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that put their lives at risk.
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Many of the women
were witnesses
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to the Jeff Davis 8 homicides
themselves.
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Witnesses close to Muggy Brown
went to the task force and said
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that Muggy saw the body
of Loretta Chaisson
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floating in the canal
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before a fisherman found her.
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Kristen Gary Lopez
was also interrogated
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in Loretta's case.
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Kristen was apparently pulled
into a room.
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The door was closed.
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The interrogation happened,
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and Kristen comes out... shaken.
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Muggy was also interviewed
as a witness
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in the Ernestine Patterson
investigation.
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When she was in
the South Andrew Street area,
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Brittney Gary said loudly
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that Uncle Frankie
killed Whitnei.
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Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno
told Brittney
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that she knew
who killed Muggy Brown.
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According to Necole's mother,
Barbara,
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Necole knew who was doing this.
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She's known all along.
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She said Necole told her
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that it was the police
that was killing these girls.
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And, in fact,
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a witness actually went
to the task force
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months before Necole was killed
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and said that Necole was going
to be the next victim.
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And, indeed, she was.
286
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I had been working on the case
for about three years.
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In January of 2014,
I finally published
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a long piece about
the Jeff Davis 8 case
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on Medium.
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After the piece was published,
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there was extraordinary
attention on the case.
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I received tips
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and information constantly.
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One of the messages
that I received
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was from a reporter
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who introduced himself as
an expert on the Ku Klux Klan.
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He said,
"I'm working on a huge story
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about a Klan informant
in Jefferson Davis Parish
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who is also a police officer.
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The police officer has
a lot of information
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about someone named
Terrie Guillory."
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This is Raymond.
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Hey, Raymond,
it's, Ethan Brown here.
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I don't know if you know me,
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00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:08,340
but I'm an investigative
reporter in New Orleans.
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You know, I've been
contacted about your story
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because there's a major
character in-in common,
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which is Terrie Guillory.
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Raymond Mott was
a police officer
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with the Lake Arthur
Police Department,
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which is just a few miles
down the road from Jennings.
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And Terrie was his boss.
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It was approximately
a month and a half
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after I started with Lake
Arthur Police Department
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that the chief brought in
Terrie Guillory.
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I didn't know Terrie Guillory
personally,
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but when you arrest somebody
for narcotics,
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you try to get them to roll over
and give you some information,
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and one of the things
I always told the informants
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that I've had
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is you have to work off three
charges or give me a dirty cop.
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And when people would hear that,
"Give me a dirty cop,"
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Terrie Guillory's name,
80% of the time, popped up.
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Raymond's story is complicated.
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Right around the time
when we spoke,
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a picture of him had emerged
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from a Klan rally.
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He ended up being fired
from the Lake Arthur PD.
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I never denied
it was me in the photograph
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but there's a story
behind the photo.
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According to Raymond Mott,
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in the summer of 2014,
he and a friend
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went to a Klan rally
in North Carolina
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and when they came back,
Raymond had some regrets.
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It was supposed to be a protest
against illegal immigration
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and the effects
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that illegal immigration has
on our government,
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which I s-- I stood
behind that-that principle
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the whole time
and still do till this day.
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But when I got there,
it-it's not what it was.
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What I did is took
the information that I had
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and compiled a file.
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I gave the information
to an FBI agent,
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told her the information
on the KKK
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and-and all this other stuff.
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Because of the information that
I gave to the federal agent,
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the Louisiana state charter of
the KKK lost all their members.
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Raymond claimed that
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the photograph of him
at the Klan rally
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was used as ammunition
to terminate him
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once he raised
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00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:07,640
very serious claims
about Terrie Guillory.
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I had been hired by Lake
Arthur to work in narcotics.
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00:22:13,930 --> 00:22:18,020
This small town has an awful
lot of narcotics activity.
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And, just like I always do,
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start making drug busts
left and right.
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00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,340
I'd make four or five drug busts
almost every shift.
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Whenever I would make
a substantial drug bust,
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00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:34,430
that'd put the case
in the newspaper,
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I would put
the person's picture.
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I would let the community know:
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this is the person, this is what
they were caught with.
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During this time,
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Terrie Guillory and I
had several conversations
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based on my job performance.
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He was telling me that
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I can't do narcotics work
in a small town
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like I do
for a larger department.
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00:22:57,130 --> 00:22:59,380
And then Terrie called me
in the office one day
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as assistant chief
and gave me a direct order
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to stop making drug busts.
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"People are tired of reading
about you and your drug busts
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in the newspaper. Now stop."
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00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:13,260
Shortly after that incident,
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the photo was released,
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00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:16,590
and I was fired.
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00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,920
The Lake Arthur police
department sat on the...
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00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:23,100
on the photo
for over four months.
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They didn't use it.
They just kept it.
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I think that the-the photo
was dropped and released
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because I was an obstruction
to Terrie Guillory's agenda.
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00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:46,340
Raymond also told me
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a story about Terrie
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00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:50,640
and Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno,
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00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,180
victim number six.
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00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:57,260
The chief
and I were dispatched
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00:23:57,260 --> 00:24:00,420
to Crystal Zeno's
sister's residence.
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00:24:00,430 --> 00:24:03,600
She had a dispute
with the neighbor.
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00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:06,130
When I made contact
with the complainant,
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00:24:06,130 --> 00:24:07,380
she went into hysterics.
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00:24:07,390 --> 00:24:09,230
She started screaming
and crying, and
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00:24:09,220 --> 00:24:12,130
I tried to calm her down
and ask her what was going on.
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00:24:12,130 --> 00:24:14,590
And she just started saying she
didn't trust law enforcement,
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00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:16,300
she didn't trust the police.
395
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:19,470
Then she outright
directly said,
396
00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:20,920
"Terrie Guillory
killed my sister."
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00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,970
This was not the first time
I heard Terrie Guillory's name
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00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:29,220
in reference
to the Jeff Davis 8.
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00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:31,800
I did talk to Terrie
about things like that.
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00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,420
I say,
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00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:35,560
"Terrie, there's a lot of people
talking on the streets,
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00:24:35,550 --> 00:24:37,760
saying you were involved
with the Jeff Davis 8.
403
00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:40,090
People are saying
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00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:42,720
you had sexual contact
with the victims.
405
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,010
People were telling me that
you were the last phone call
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00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:48,920
a couple of the girls made
before they ended up missing."
407
00:24:51,550 --> 00:24:53,840
And Terrie looked me
directly in the face
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00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,170
and said, "You can believe
about 95% of what you hear."
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00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,760
I didn't really know
how to take that,
410
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,300
you know, because
I've been hearing a lot.
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00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:09,380
It felt like he was
confessing a crime to me.
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00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:17,730
Later on that day,
413
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,260
Terrie was sitting
outside under the awning,
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00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:22,090
and he called me over to him.
415
00:25:22,090 --> 00:25:24,220
He looked me in the face,
and he said,
416
00:25:24,220 --> 00:25:26,550
"Try to do the right thing,
417
00:25:26,550 --> 00:25:29,220
because your demons
will come back,
418
00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:31,340
and they'll find you."
419
00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:33,880
And then he told me
about the Jeff Davis 8.
420
00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:36,520
He said, "Man, I can tell you
things about that case
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00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:38,590
that would... that would
blow you away."
422
00:25:38,590 --> 00:25:40,220
He said, "That wasn't
just one killers."
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00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:41,590
He said, "It was several
different people."
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00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:48,470
Later, I did a full
police report on the incident,
425
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:50,630
and also put in the report
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00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,390
the statement made
about Terrie Guillory.
427
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:56,350
Unfortunately, at the time,
428
00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:58,420
Terrie Guillory was the guy
checking the reports
429
00:25:58,430 --> 00:26:01,890
and turning them in
on our behalf,
430
00:26:01,890 --> 00:26:04,430
um, so, I haven't heard anything
431
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:07,140
or seen anything
of the report since.
432
00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:17,300
The people in Jennings
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00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,420
that I've talked to--
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00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:21,430
we're talking
about people that were,
435
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:24,390
um, regular Joes,
436
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:27,060
you know, the families
of the persons
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00:26:27,050 --> 00:26:30,300
who were killed,
their relatives--
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00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:33,590
they're all fearful
of law enforcement in Jennings.
439
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,430
Bucky and Tanny contacted me,
440
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:43,270
and we've been
putting together
441
00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:46,420
information about
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00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:49,600
current law enforcement
misconduct
443
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:52,340
that connects back
to the Jeff Davis 8 case.
444
00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:57,050
They believe
that the most effective avenue
445
00:26:57,050 --> 00:27:00,130
for this case is with the Feds.
446
00:27:00,130 --> 00:27:03,380
We're suggesting
that we hand this over
447
00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:06,310
to law enforcement
that can be trusted.
448
00:27:08,430 --> 00:27:11,980
What I want to do is
to ask Sheriff Ivy Woods
449
00:27:11,970 --> 00:27:16,630
if he would consider
calling FBI in
450
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,640
so that we could give them
all the information we have,
451
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,890
and they could coordinate
their efforts together
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00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:24,390
and perhaps solve
some of these crimes.
453
00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:28,520
I personally can see no reason
for him not to ask the Feds in,
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00:27:28,510 --> 00:27:31,920
because, um, one
of his campaign promises was
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00:27:31,930 --> 00:27:33,520
to really get after this...
456
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:36,010
these murders
and try to solve 'em.
457
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:39,670
Why wouldn't Ivy say,
458
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,180
"This is rooted in the past.
459
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:44,890
I'm gonna step away
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00:27:44,890 --> 00:27:48,850
from this," and simply
invite the Feds in?
461
00:27:51,010 --> 00:27:52,760
People are not
gonna come forward
462
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,090
if they don't trust you.
463
00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:57,970
The task force
and the sheriff back then
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00:27:57,970 --> 00:28:01,220
were all asking for tips, and
asking, "Please come forward,"
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00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:04,590
and this and that,
one thing or another.
466
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:07,380
People were just too afraid.
467
00:28:07,390 --> 00:28:08,850
They were all afraid.
468
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,380
And I think they had reason
to be afraid.
469
00:28:16,510 --> 00:28:19,630
I had no faith
in the task force.
470
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,520
And to this day, I still
have no faith in the task force.
471
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,670
The community of Jennings
don't trust the law enforcement.
472
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,730
Because y'all don't know
who to trust.
473
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,590
Y'all don't know who to go to.
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00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:34,420
They don't want to release
no information.
475
00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:36,730
Or no nothing to nobody.
476
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880
They want to push everything
to the side.
477
00:28:40,090 --> 00:28:42,420
I was told by one person,
478
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:44,060
I met with this lady
some years back.
479
00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:45,840
She wanted to meet with me,
and she wanted to tell me
480
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,090
her part in the whole thing
481
00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:49,840
about how she was helping
with the investigation.
482
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,090
One of the things
that stuck out:
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00:28:52,090 --> 00:28:56,760
She told me that it goes higher
than we think it is.
484
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,170
Not just the authorities
in this town. It goes higher.
485
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,470
I still had questions
486
00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:13,920
about what was preventing
the case from being solved.
487
00:29:13,930 --> 00:29:18,560
And I kept coming back
to the Boudreaux Inn.
488
00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:21,840
The incident reports
that I had pulled
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00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,630
raise enormous questions
490
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,810
about how this place continued
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00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,920
to be operated unencumbered.
492
00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:32,840
Drug activity was a constant.
493
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,630
The sex trade was a constant.
494
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,230
This is something
that everybody knew.
495
00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:39,090
And this was all happening
at the height
496
00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:40,970
of the Jeff Davis 8 case.
497
00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:45,970
The Boudreaux Inn had a license
for gambling.
498
00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:49,670
And the standard
for those licenses
499
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600
is actually quite high.
500
00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:54,840
You could have something as...
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00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,130
a 16-year-old drinking
on the premises
502
00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:01,420
and lose your license
based on that.
503
00:30:03,390 --> 00:30:06,850
It seems impossible
the Boudreaux Inn
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00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,220
could maintain
its gambling license;
505
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:13,050
could maintain
its liquor license
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00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:16,760
without protection
from local law enforcement.
507
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,270
You have to understand
508
00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:25,880
politics in Louisiana.
509
00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:27,810
You have to understand that
for you to be able
510
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,970
to do something that's illegal
and get away with it,
511
00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:36,010
you have to have the ability
to call somebody
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00:30:36,010 --> 00:30:37,510
to get out of trouble.
513
00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:44,670
What I heard,
you had to be careful
514
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,020
of the Boudreaux Inn
515
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:48,880
because there were
powerful people
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00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:51,930
behind the business.
517
00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:56,060
The notion of
a powerful person or persons
518
00:30:56,050 --> 00:31:00,550
didn't come with any kind of
hint of who that might be.
519
00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:04,130
What I thought
that they meant was,
520
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:06,720
a well-heeled local,
521
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,340
maybe a man who owned
a car dealership
522
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:12,550
in Jennings.
523
00:31:12,550 --> 00:31:14,130
I just didn't know.
524
00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:17,760
But it always stayed in my mind
525
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,630
to be wary of the Boudreaux Inn.
526
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,140
As I dug deeper,
I began to hear about
527
00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:33,670
someone named "Big G"
related to the Boudreaux Inn.
528
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,100
Big G was our poker man.
He would come on Wednesdays,
529
00:31:37,090 --> 00:31:40,050
and he would,
clean the poker machines out
530
00:31:40,050 --> 00:31:41,590
and count the poker money.
531
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:45,260
He was a big, heavyset fellow,
532
00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:48,170
like he could pull his weight
if he wanted to.
533
00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:50,560
I did meet him one time.
534
00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:54,090
I told him "Nice to meet you,"
shook his hand.
535
00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:58,550
He was-- I don't know,
didn't look happy, I mean,
536
00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,470
like a Good...
537
00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:02,090
Good Samaritan,
you know what I'm saying?
538
00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:04,920
He wasn't a friendly man;
let's put it like that.
539
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:12,880
Someone told me
"G" stood for "Guillory,"
540
00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:16,980
which was particularly unhelpful
given the number of people
541
00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:20,340
in Jeff Davis Parish with
Guillory as their last name.
542
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:24,380
But I pulled the lease
for the Boudreaux Inn.
543
00:32:24,390 --> 00:32:27,810
Sure enough, on the lease was
544
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,970
a Martin Guillory.
545
00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:35,140
Who is Martin Guillory?
546
00:32:35,130 --> 00:32:37,300
What does he do?
547
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:42,130
What did he know or not know
about what was going on
548
00:32:42,130 --> 00:32:45,380
at the Boudreaux Inn at the time
that he operated it.
549
00:32:46,510 --> 00:32:49,630
Hello?
550
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Hi, is-is this Martin Guillory?
551
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,020
-Yes.
-Hey, it's... Ethan Brown here.
552
00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:57,340
-Who?
-Ethan Brown.
553
00:32:57,340 --> 00:33:02,220
I'm the, reporter
who contacted you
554
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:04,260
several days ago,
and you asked me
555
00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:07,510
to send an
introductory e-mail to you...
556
00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:12,850
I had been investigating
Martin Guillory.
557
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,670
He lived a bit east
of Jennings.
558
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,350
Deep Cajun country.
559
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,930
He ran for local
political offices,
560
00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:25,600
and he...
561
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:29,880
was involved in
some small campaigns.
562
00:33:29,890 --> 00:33:34,680
So I-I have
a-a few questions for you.
563
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,390
I will not answer
any question, Mr. Brown.
564
00:33:38,390 --> 00:33:41,390
Okay, so, so your--
I want to be clear here,
565
00:33:41,390 --> 00:33:43,810
though, Mr. Guillory.
I'm giving you the opportunity
566
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,970
to respond to allegations.
567
00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:47,670
So your position is,
568
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,140
"I-I have no response"?
569
00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:51,670
Well, no,
I mean, what allegations
570
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600
do you have against me?
571
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:57,300
Were you aware of
criminal activity occurring
572
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,260
at the Boudreaux Inn?
-No, sir.
573
00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:02,550
Were you aware of
the women of the Jeff Davis 8
574
00:34:02,550 --> 00:34:05,590
being involved in prostitution
at the Boudreaux Inn?
575
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:08,880
-No, sir.
-Did you know those women?
576
00:34:08,890 --> 00:34:12,930
I met one or two,
but, I,
577
00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:15,390
I did not know
the rest of 'em.
578
00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:16,680
Okay.
579
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:29,970
There was a time
in the summer of 2011.
580
00:34:29,970 --> 00:34:33,220
I had just met Frankie Richard.
581
00:34:33,220 --> 00:34:35,670
I was in my earliest stages
582
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,850
of looking at this case.
583
00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,420
And...
584
00:34:40,430 --> 00:34:42,930
Frankie, at that time,
585
00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:47,310
really enjoyed calling me
on my cell phone.
586
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:49,340
Occasionally, he'd give me tips
on the case,
587
00:34:49,340 --> 00:34:52,220
or things that he thought
were tips,
588
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:56,050
and at one point he said...
589
00:34:56,050 --> 00:34:57,760
"Hey.
590
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,800
You know
about Charles Boustany?
591
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,470
You need to investigate him."
592
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,220
I'd certainly heard
the name Charles Boustany.
593
00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:10,920
He was a congressman
594
00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:14,020
in my then home state
of Louisiana,
595
00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:18,470
who, in 2016, was running
for United States Senate.
596
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:22,970
Tonight, I'm proud
to announce my candidacy
597
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:24,300
to be the next
United States senator
598
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,420
for our great state
of Louisiana.
599
00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:32,420
He was
a conservative politician,
600
00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:34,770
a family values
sort of politician.
601
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,970
Louisiana's
a conservative state.
602
00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:41,380
We hold close traditional values
of faith and family.
603
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:43,480
We value the lives
of the unborn.
604
00:35:43,470 --> 00:35:45,420
We believe in the rule of law.
605
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:48,850
We know strong families
provide the best opportunities
606
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,880
for the success of our children.
607
00:35:50,890 --> 00:35:53,350
Values that would,
608
00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:57,220
be in conflict
with the sort of things
609
00:35:57,220 --> 00:36:00,010
that were going on
at the Boudreaux Inn.
610
00:36:02,010 --> 00:36:05,380
I had never heard
Charles Boustany's name
611
00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:09,270
in the context
of the Jeff Davis 8 case,
612
00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:13,220
but now, many years later,
613
00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:17,090
as I looked more
at Big G Guillory,
614
00:36:17,090 --> 00:36:21,050
I had found that he had
615
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:25,510
a phone number on Capitol Hill.
616
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:29,220
The man who ran
the Boudreaux Inn
617
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:31,720
was a field representative
618
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:36,380
for Congressman
Charles Boustany.
619
00:36:42,010 --> 00:36:45,720
What was Charles Boustany's
relationship
620
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,300
with the Boudreaux Inn and with
the women of the Jeff Davis 8?
621
00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:58,880
I spoke to a relative
of Necole Guillory's,
622
00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,230
and this person said
623
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:04,510
that she was with Necole
624
00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:08,590
and they passed yard signs
625
00:37:08,590 --> 00:37:10,920
for Charles Boustany,
626
00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:14,600
and Necole pointed him out
627
00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:18,260
as somebody that she knew
from the Boudreaux Inn.
628
00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:26,270
She used his name--
Charles Boustany?
629
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:34,880
I was walking
with Kristen one day
630
00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:36,810
to her grandma's house.
631
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,760
She talked about
Charles Boustany.
632
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:45,470
She had sex with him,
633
00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:49,260
he paid her, they had
a little heated argument.
634
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:56,560
What Kristen and Charles
Boustany was arguing about?
635
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,130
Wouldn't say.
636
00:38:06,130 --> 00:38:08,720
The rumor has it
637
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:12,760
that Loretta
638
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,970
was tricking
639
00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:18,340
with Charles Boustany.
640
00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:20,880
Loretta was one
of his favorite girls.
641
00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:23,270
And tell me about your
work with Charles Boustany.
642
00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:25,470
I know you've been
his field representative
643
00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,050
since 2005?
-Something like that.
644
00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:29,970
Yes, sir.
-Okay.
645
00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:32,050
Did Charles Boustany
ever go to the Boudreaux Inn?
646
00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:34,090
Not that I can remember.
647
00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:37,670
Did Mr. Boustany ever
know or have a relationship
648
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,270
in any capacity with any of
the women of the Jeff Davis 8?
649
00:38:41,260 --> 00:38:44,300
Well, of course not.
Not that I know of.
650
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,670
Why would that man deal
with any of the women
651
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,560
at Boudreaux Inn?
652
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:50,630
I don't know. I'm--
it-it's a question.
653
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,350
W-Well, sir,
654
00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:54,670
I don't know what's
your alternative motive,
655
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,680
I don't know
who you're working for
656
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,850
and what are you trying
to insinuate here,
657
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,970
but I assure you, you're going
down the wrong path. Okay?
658
00:39:02,970 --> 00:39:05,510
Fair enough.
-That's all I have to tell you.
659
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:07,420
You get whatever you got,
660
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:09,350
and,
just do what you got to do
661
00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:12,050
and I-I assure you
that when you'll come out
662
00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:13,420
with all of these allegations,
663
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:16,060
we gonna file suit
against you.
664
00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:18,220
Don't you ever talk to me
no more.
665
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,180
The fact that a source said
666
00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:26,850
that Charles Boustany was there
doesn't prove
667
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,800
that he was there,
from a legal standpoint.
668
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,550
Somebody said this happened.
669
00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:34,550
You know, obviously,
it's information,
670
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:35,880
and you have to look into it,
and we did.
671
00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:37,560
It's like anybody else.
672
00:39:37,550 --> 00:39:42,050
Now, just because somebody said
that it was Charles Boustany
673
00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:45,130
doesn't mean it was.
674
00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:47,050
Doesn't mean it wasn't.
675
00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:54,090
The headline of
The Washington Post story reads
676
00:39:54,090 --> 00:39:57,760
"A new prostitution scandal
roils a Louisiana Senate race."
677
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,760
The claims stem from a book
678
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,760
written by a journalist,
Ethan Brown, that examined
679
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,420
the unsolved murder of eight
prostitutes in Louisiana.
680
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:08,930
Joining us now, Republican
congressman Charles Boustany.
681
00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:10,930
These are scurrilous,
baseless lies.
682
00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:13,600
Let me be very clear:
it's politically motivated
683
00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:16,590
at a time when my campaign
has significant momentum.
684
00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:18,670
I've got to ask you.
Part of being in the Senate
685
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,020
is-is a judgment issue.
686
00:40:21,010 --> 00:40:23,670
And I'm wondering if it goes
at all to the issue of judgment
687
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,430
that you had this staffer
688
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:27,390
who I don't think
anyone would question
689
00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:31,020
whether or not he was involved
in running this "Bordeaux" Inn
690
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:33,670
where these eight women who were
prostitutes hosted clients.
691
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,730
W-Why keep him on the staff?
Why have that liability?
692
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,970
Well, we didn't know about this
until this just broke.
693
00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:44,630
And, he hid this from us,
and when we found out about it,
694
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,140
we immediately terminated
his-his deal.
695
00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:50,090
He actually offered
his resignation,
696
00:40:50,090 --> 00:40:53,340
and-and was sh-- felt shame
that he hid this from us.
697
00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:56,300
We have no, no relationship
698
00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:58,550
with him now
in my official office.
699
00:40:58,550 --> 00:41:00,720
We didn't know about this
until this broke.
700
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,970
And,
we're gonna get this campaign
701
00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:04,720
back on what it needs to be on,
702
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,300
national security, on d-dealing
with this stalled economy
703
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,760
and protecting
our American values.
704
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,300
Everything's under assault
right now,
705
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:13,550
and it's time to move forward
706
00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:16,300
with the real issues
in this campaign.
707
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,420
The alleged involvement
of Charles Boustany
708
00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:57,890
with several
of the Jeff Davis 8 women
709
00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:01,390
certainly does not suggest
that Charles Boustany himself
710
00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:03,560
was involved in any way
711
00:42:03,550 --> 00:42:07,050
with the homicides
of these women.
712
00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:08,920
What it suggests to me
713
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:13,230
is that there is yet another
layer of power
714
00:42:13,220 --> 00:42:14,720
involved in this case
715
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,760
that would prevent the case
from being solved.
716
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:29,810
These eight women
717
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,510
were mothers, wives,
718
00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:38,590
girlfriends, nieces,
719
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:41,670
they were people
who were loved...
720
00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:47,720
...and I think it's just
incredibly important
721
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,920
to remember that.
722
00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:53,430
I hoped that the book
723
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:58,480
would provide a highly detailed
724
00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:00,260
and credible narrative
725
00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:04,550
about what actually happened
to these women.
726
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:06,630
I also hoped
727
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,180
that there would be
movement of some kind
728
00:43:11,180 --> 00:43:16,230
and the book could spur
a new investigation.
729
00:43:18,970 --> 00:43:20,800
That never happened.
730
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,850
Out of courtesy and respect,
731
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,800
for Sheriff Ivy Woods, I asked
for a private meeting with him,
732
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,470
and at that meeting,
I informed him we had developed
733
00:43:37,470 --> 00:43:39,220
a lot of information
that we feel like
734
00:43:39,220 --> 00:43:41,970
that the task force
didn't have in the past.
735
00:43:41,970 --> 00:43:45,920
And the sheriff Woods was very
cordial with me, very nice,
736
00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:49,480
and he told me he would get back
in touch with me in a few days.
737
00:43:49,470 --> 00:43:52,050
That's been...
two or three months ago.
738
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:54,510
I haven't heard
a word from him.
739
00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:55,880
I think there is someone
740
00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:58,810
that's in this chain,
741
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,170
whether it's a chain
from the sheriff down
742
00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:04,480
or the sheriff up,
743
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:07,550
and they've encouraged him
not to move forward.
744
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:10,380
I went and talked
to the FBI.
745
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:11,680
The feeling that I got
746
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,850
from the FBI agent
that I spoke to
747
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,380
was they were very interested
and very excited,
748
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:19,430
but nothing came of it.
749
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:23,480
So, for someone to be
that excited with evidence
750
00:44:23,470 --> 00:44:25,800
that was presented to them,
751
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,340
someone put a stop to it.
752
00:44:27,340 --> 00:44:29,510
We can all agree
as we sit here today
753
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:31,670
that we've pretty much
run out of avenues.
754
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,230
We've been to the people
that should care,
755
00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:35,670
we've reached out to 'em
756
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,680
with what we feel
is good information,
757
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,560
and just like you said,
758
00:44:39,550 --> 00:44:42,420
we've been treated
with indifference.
759
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,550
Despite whatever's been said,
760
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:04,050
or whatever people believe,
761
00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:06,380
all these eight cases
are being worked.
762
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:09,810
They're still active cases.
763
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,970
I personally...
764
00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:14,880
feel that I'm-I'm letting
the families down.
765
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:25,470
But I can assure
the-the families and the public
766
00:45:25,470 --> 00:45:27,970
that we will continue
to work on these cases.
767
00:45:27,970 --> 00:45:31,920
We can't discuss a lot
about information and events
768
00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:33,730
and how things occurred,
769
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:37,170
but we're going to continue
to do everything we can,
770
00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:41,600
and hopefully the public will
also help as much as they can
771
00:45:41,590 --> 00:45:44,800
and be willing
to work with us on this.
772
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,590
Is there
anything you can tell me
773
00:45:46,590 --> 00:45:48,510
about Frankie Richard?
774
00:45:48,510 --> 00:45:52,550
Frankie Richard remains
a person of interest currently.
775
00:45:57,340 --> 00:45:58,880
Frankie,
there's only two things
776
00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:00,600
I need for you to do today.
777
00:46:00,590 --> 00:46:02,720
The first thing
you got to do: cooperate.
778
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,760
And the second thing
you need to do with me
779
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,420
is just tell me the truth 100%.
780
00:46:08,430 --> 00:46:11,810
All right,
just relax for me, okay?
781
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,800
You can look at 2005 to 2009
782
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,420
as a specific time
783
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:25,310
that has very deep
784
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:28,170
misconduct in law enforcement,
785
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:33,180
and has a singular character
in Frankie Richard.
786
00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:35,480
All right,
need you to remain still.
787
00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:39,590
Look straight ahead,
answer only yes or no.
788
00:46:39,590 --> 00:46:42,630
The test is about to begin.
789
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,810
Frankie's insistence
all along has been
790
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,420
that he is not involved
in any of the eight homicides,
791
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:52,980
and that he has been
unfairly implicated
792
00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:54,760
in these cases.
793
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,920
That really has given him
this great drive
794
00:46:58,930 --> 00:47:01,520
to want to clear his name.
795
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:02,970
And even go as far
796
00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:06,590
as to want a polygraph on it.
797
00:47:06,590 --> 00:47:08,220
Only answer yes or no
798
00:47:08,220 --> 00:47:10,010
to the questions
I'm about to ask you.
799
00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:11,840
Is this the month of December?
800
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,010
Yes.
801
00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:19,670
But when you speak to Frankie,
802
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,060
it's like a tide
that comes in
803
00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:27,550
but stops in a certain place.
804
00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:29,720
You know
that there's more beyond
805
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:32,720
where that tide sort of stops.
806
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,050
Regarding the murder of Kristen,
807
00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:35,470
do you intend
to answer truthfully
808
00:47:35,470 --> 00:47:37,470
each question about that?
809
00:47:37,470 --> 00:47:39,880
Yes.
810
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,220
When Kristen went missing,
811
00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:48,880
Tracee Chaisson initially
told investigators
812
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:52,930
that Frankie, and Frankie's
goddaughter Hannah Connor,
813
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:55,060
killed Kristen.
814
00:47:55,050 --> 00:47:57,300
I lied on Frankie.
815
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:58,670
I lied on Frankie,
and went back
816
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,480
and told the people
that I lied.
817
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:06,060
Did you help sell that truck?
818
00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:07,220
No.
819
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:13,300
Did you participate in the
dumping of Kristen's body?
820
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:14,380
No.
821
00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:20,550
I know Frankie
822
00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:22,550
was not involved
with Kristen's death.
823
00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:23,920
I feel it in my soul
824
00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:25,600
that he has nothing to do
with Kristen.
825
00:48:25,590 --> 00:48:27,170
You weren't
with him that night?
826
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:28,640
-No, I was not.
-So you can't--
827
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,850
-I could--
-No, you can't tell me
828
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,920
-with certainty that he wasn't--
-I could--
829
00:48:31,930 --> 00:48:35,560
I could be wrong
that Frankie was there.
830
00:48:35,550 --> 00:48:36,920
So what is the truth?
831
00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:38,680
The truth is I know nothing.
832
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,260
Did you physically harm Kristen?
833
00:48:45,260 --> 00:48:48,260
No.
834
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:52,090
The test is now over,
please remain still
835
00:48:52,090 --> 00:48:54,970
while I take the instrument
out of operation.
836
00:48:57,090 --> 00:48:58,840
From the first time
that I met Frankie
837
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,800
in a trailer in Breaux Bridge,
838
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,300
the question has been
839
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:06,630
why was Frankie Richard,
840
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,890
a suspect in multiple homicides
841
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:11,640
in Jeff Davis Parish,
842
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,810
so freely and openly
talking to me?
843
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,840
And it's a question that,
to be honest,
844
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,130
I've never been able to resolve.
845
00:49:24,970 --> 00:49:27,470
Hate to be
a bearer of bad news...
846
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:29,670
inconclusive.
847
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,810
Can't call it one way
or the other at this point.
848
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,340
Even now,
849
00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:43,880
I can't say for sure
850
00:49:43,890 --> 00:49:47,680
what does Frankie
really know?
851
00:49:56,050 --> 00:49:58,670
I was...
852
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,480
looking at this shit
853
00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:04,670
like poor, pitiful Frankie.
854
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,390
They out to fucking get him.
855
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:09,350
Well, they've been out to get me
all my fucking life, you know?
856
00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:12,670
I just...
857
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,890
thought about it for a while
and said,
858
00:50:15,890 --> 00:50:17,890
"I'm gonna start fighting back."
859
00:50:17,890 --> 00:50:19,390
And that's what I'm doing.
860
00:50:19,390 --> 00:50:22,810
And sooner or later,
861
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,670
everything...
862
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,640
that we are sitting down
talking about
863
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,430
will come out.
864
00:50:30,430 --> 00:50:34,180
Somewhere down the line,
the truth...
865
00:50:34,180 --> 00:50:36,730
will be known.
866
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,050
Whatever it is.
867
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:50,730
Heavenly Father
and righteous God.
868
00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:55,100
Another day is upon us, Lord,
869
00:50:55,090 --> 00:50:59,090
and the sun is coming in
through the windows.
870
00:50:59,090 --> 00:51:02,720
Just like clockwork, Lord,
you... woke us up
871
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,090
and started us on our way.
872
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,420
We ask you
to walk with us, Lord.
873
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:13,020
Keep Satan, his devils,
his demons and all away from us.
874
00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:16,130
Protect our children
and our loved ones.
875
00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:18,920
Walk with us, Lord,
as we stumble through
876
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:20,810
in this world of sin.
877
00:51:25,090 --> 00:51:28,420
There were eight young ladies
878
00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:31,680
that were killed in the area.
879
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,930
And yet, today,
880
00:51:33,930 --> 00:51:36,310
they still don't have an answer
881
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:39,720
to what has happened
to those children.
882
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,510
Some were white,
some were black.
883
00:51:42,510 --> 00:51:44,840
They could have been trying
to kill your daughter,
884
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,970
your granddaughter.
885
00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:48,630
But thanks be to God,
they didn't.
886
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,230
But somebody's child got killed.
887
00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:58,090
It's ten years later.
888
00:51:58,090 --> 00:51:59,760
People may think
889
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,010
that I forgot,
890
00:52:03,010 --> 00:52:04,970
that I just let it die
891
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:07,970
and let it turn cold
like y'all did.
892
00:52:09,390 --> 00:52:11,310
Not a chance in hell.
893
00:52:13,550 --> 00:52:16,300
Those are our fallen children.
894
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:21,390
I feel like every street
that every one of them children
895
00:52:21,390 --> 00:52:25,180
were found on, them streets
ought to be named after them.
896
00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:28,020
It shouldn't be Keystone Road.
897
00:52:28,010 --> 00:52:31,300
It should be Brittney Ann Lane.
898
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:34,300
Whitnei Dubois.
899
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:37,340
LaConia Brown.
900
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:40,260
Shay.
901
00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:41,840
Kristen.
902
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,300
Loretta.
903
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,340
Necole.
904
00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:53,880
I think all the girls
have been forgotten,
905
00:52:53,890 --> 00:52:56,930
'cause it's like, nobody not
talking about them no more.
906
00:52:58,510 --> 00:53:02,090
At the time,
everybody was scared.
907
00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:04,260
Now everybody's mad.
908
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,800
I would like to see
justice done, man. Really.
909
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:11,640
Not only for Kristen,
910
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,350
but the seven other girls.
911
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:22,890
I was one of those girls.
912
00:53:22,890 --> 00:53:25,730
Running the streets.
913
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:28,050
I'm doing this because I hope
that maybe I could help
914
00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:30,630
just one, one in the future,
915
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,850
or maybe make justice
for Loretta.
916
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,170
Anyone that speaks
the way I have,
917
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:37,350
I'm pretty sure
they'll tell you the same thing,
918
00:53:37,340 --> 00:53:38,550
that they're afraid.
919
00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:42,380
There's a lot of people
out there that know a lot more.
920
00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:49,090
And I really, really pray to God
that they decide to talk.
921
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:51,970
If somebody would
just come forward,
922
00:53:51,970 --> 00:53:54,800
just one little piece
of information is all they need,
923
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,090
to the right person.
924
00:53:56,090 --> 00:53:58,630
But who's that right person?
925
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,430
Who do you trust?
926
00:54:03,260 --> 00:54:05,590
The police know...
927
00:54:05,590 --> 00:54:07,840
somebody,
928
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,300
one of them fuckers g--
that's gonna watch this, knows.
929
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:14,720
One, two, three, four of 'em.
930
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,920
They know.
931
00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:32,380
I just don't understand how...
932
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:36,480
people can't take
in consideration...
933
00:54:38,970 --> 00:54:41,800
...of other people's lives.
934
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,880
I don't see how people can
act like people don't matter.
935
00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:58,770
Everybody matters.
-Everybody...
936
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,130
...should be cared about.
937
00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:07,170
At the end of the day,
nobody was there to help them.
938
00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:09,680
Nobody was there
to help the girls.
939
00:55:13,590 --> 00:55:16,590
They knew it was happening.
940
00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:19,970
They knew, one by one.
941
00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:24,300
They really just didn't want
nobody to get involved.
942
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:26,380
They didn't want nothing
to happen to their family,
943
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:29,600
their friends, their loved ones.
944
00:55:33,010 --> 00:55:35,510
But this ain't 2000 no more.
945
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,230
Somebody got to speak up.
946
00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:43,880
Somebody got to be their voice.
947
00:55:43,890 --> 00:55:46,180
Maybe other people will get
the courage to step up
948
00:55:46,180 --> 00:55:49,180
and speak on what they know.
949
00:55:52,130 --> 00:55:54,800
It's just a wish.
950
00:55:57,180 --> 00:56:00,060
Hopefully it comes true.
71189
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