All language subtitles for Chapter Three An Unholy Union

af Afrikaans
ak Akan
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bem Bemba
bn Bengali
bh Bihari
bs Bosnian
br Breton
bg Bulgarian
km Cambodian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
chr Cherokee
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
ee Ewe
fo Faroese
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gaa Ga
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gn Guarani
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ia Interlingua
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
rw Kinyarwanda
rn Kirundi
kg Kongo
ko Korean
kri Krio (Sierra Leone)
ku Kurdish
ckb Kurdish (Soranî)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Laothian
la Latin
lv Latvian
ln Lingala
lt Lithuanian
loz Lozi
lg Luganda
ach Luo
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mfe Mauritian Creole
mo Moldavian
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
sr-ME Montenegrin
ne Nepali
pcm Nigerian Pidgin
nso Northern Sotho
no Norwegian
nn Norwegian (Nynorsk)
oc Occitan
or Oriya
om Oromo
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt-BR Portuguese (Brazil)
pt Portuguese (Portugal)
pa Punjabi
qu Quechua
ro Romanian
rm Romansh
nyn Runyakitara
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
sh Serbo-Croatian
st Sesotho
tn Setswana
crs Seychellois Creole
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhalese
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
es-419 Spanish (Latin American)
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
tt Tatar
te Telugu
th Thai
ti Tigrinya
to Tonga
lua Tshiluba
tum Tumbuka
tr Turkish
tk Turkmen
tw Twi
ug Uighur
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
wo Wolof
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,050 --> 00:00:32,300 They claim this is the route that Brittney took 2 00:00:32,300 --> 00:00:34,130 the day that Brittney disappeared. 3 00:00:37,390 --> 00:00:40,680 There's a camera at the door right there. 4 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,310 That's the only camera, is right there, 5 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:43,550 that caught my daughter that day. 6 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:48,390 I'm trying to imagine what Brittney saw 7 00:00:48,390 --> 00:00:50,060 because they said she looked so scared. 8 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:55,260 What she was thinking at that... at that time. 9 00:00:55,260 --> 00:00:57,510 What was going through her mind. 10 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,670 Seems like either she saw 11 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,560 something on her way to the dollar store... 12 00:01:04,550 --> 00:01:06,220 or on her way out. 13 00:01:06,220 --> 00:01:08,470 So it was like... That was it. 14 00:01:08,470 --> 00:01:10,590 She just vanished in thin air. 15 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:11,840 Gone. 16 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:17,560 Jennings is just one 17 00:01:17,550 --> 00:01:19,840 crooked-ass town. 18 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,840 I've never seen a town 19 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,050 be so incompetent, 20 00:01:29,050 --> 00:01:30,670 pathetic. 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,980 We just want something, 22 00:01:32,970 --> 00:01:35,300 some type of justice. 23 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:38,510 I think law enforcement knows everything. 24 00:01:38,510 --> 00:01:41,510 Law enforcement have a story. 25 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:43,300 We do believe right now, 26 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:45,260 as far as the investigation goes, 27 00:01:45,260 --> 00:01:48,840 that it is one offender, behaviorally, at this time. 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,760 That is how the "story" is told and believed, 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,470 but I don't believe that for one second. 30 00:01:54,470 --> 00:01:56,800 Let me do tell you, 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,470 there is no serial killer 32 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:03,300 in Jeff Davis Parish. 33 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,590 There never was. 34 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,800 For years, approaching Jennings, 35 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,170 I would get a kind of sick feeling 36 00:02:46,180 --> 00:02:49,230 because, after years 37 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:51,300 of working on the case, 38 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,840 everything that I knew from talking to the families, 39 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,920 about the homicides themselves, 40 00:02:57,930 --> 00:03:02,520 created this weight in my stomach where I'd feel 41 00:03:02,510 --> 00:03:05,260 physically ill. 42 00:03:08,220 --> 00:03:11,720 When I began looking at the case in 2011, 43 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,220 the case was very quiet, 44 00:03:14,220 --> 00:03:16,880 all eight of the homicides were unsolved, 45 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:19,520 and there was a lot of apathy in town. 46 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:23,260 The folks in Jennings, in Jeff Davis Parish, 47 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:24,880 generally, early on, 48 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:28,270 had essentially resigned themselves to the idea that 49 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:30,760 this impossible-to-understand case 50 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,420 with a likely serial killer 51 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:35,230 at the center of it was never going to be solved. 52 00:03:39,970 --> 00:03:41,880 The relationship 53 00:03:41,890 --> 00:03:44,930 between the town and law enforcement was complex, 54 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:46,480 and I also believed, 55 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:50,260 divided along socioeconomic lines. 56 00:03:51,220 --> 00:03:54,010 On the north side of town, 57 00:03:54,010 --> 00:03:58,090 where you had more middle-class and upper middle-class folks, 58 00:03:58,090 --> 00:04:00,260 there was a comfort level 59 00:04:00,260 --> 00:04:02,220 with law enforcement that was very high. 60 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:03,760 You would have people say 61 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,630 th-things like, "They're doing their best." 62 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,270 You know, "God bless them. 63 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:10,300 They're trying. They're out there. 64 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:12,550 What else can they do? It's a small town." 65 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,050 On the south side, what I began to hear 66 00:04:17,050 --> 00:04:19,760 was murmurings of 67 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,720 law enforcement misconduct 68 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,470 or perhaps something far worse. 69 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:29,630 Early in the summer of 2007, 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,730 the Jennings Daily News gets a tip that we need to look into 71 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,630 the chief investigator Warren Gary. 72 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,270 That there was an issue with him 73 00:04:40,260 --> 00:04:43,220 purchasing a truck from an inmate 74 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:46,470 and then selling it to make a profit. 75 00:04:46,470 --> 00:04:50,800 Now, right off the top, there's nothing inherently illegal 76 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,130 in that situation, but what we are told is that 77 00:04:54,130 --> 00:04:57,840 that truck may have been 78 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,420 the crime scene where 79 00:04:59,430 --> 00:05:01,270 Kristen Gary Lopez was murdered. 80 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,340 Former Chief Criminal Investigator Warren Gary 81 00:05:06,340 --> 00:05:09,090 found himself under investigation 82 00:05:09,090 --> 00:05:13,050 after he bought a truck from jail inmate Connie Siler 83 00:05:13,050 --> 00:05:15,590 and later sold it for a profit. 84 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:18,010 Some believe that truck may have had a connection 85 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:20,260 to the death of one of the women. 86 00:05:20,260 --> 00:05:23,760 Numerous witnesses discussed how Kristen was riding 87 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,760 in a white Chevy Silverado prior to her death 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,840 with Connie Siler, an associate of Frankie's. 89 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:34,340 Frankie, Frankie's goddaughter Hannah Conner, 90 00:05:34,340 --> 00:05:36,340 and Tracee Chaisson. 91 00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:37,920 What, if anything, do you know about that truck 92 00:05:37,930 --> 00:05:39,850 that Connie Siler sold? 93 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:43,840 I don't know nothing about the truck. All I know is that... 94 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,090 it's, um, 95 00:05:46,090 --> 00:05:49,840 that it was sold to a detective. 96 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,090 You know anything about anybody's body being put 97 00:05:52,090 --> 00:05:55,590 - in it or anything like that? . No. I don't. 98 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:59,590 Connie Siler, the owner of the Chevy Silverado 99 00:05:59,590 --> 00:06:03,380 sold the truck for about 7 or $8,000 100 00:06:03,390 --> 00:06:06,060 to a chief investigator of the sheriff's office, 101 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:09,720 Warren Gary, and then Gary resold it 102 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,340 for approximately $15,000. 103 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:16,260 This is a potential crime scene, 104 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:18,880 and now it's been sold for profit 105 00:06:18,890 --> 00:06:20,890 and given to a private citizen 106 00:06:20,890 --> 00:06:23,560 and law enforcement didn't want to believe anything 107 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:25,720 was going on wrong with Warren Gary 108 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,170 and that truck situation. -What I see is that 109 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:31,730 it was an opportunity for somebody to make some money. 110 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,420 Buy a vehicle, sell the vehicle, and make a profit. 111 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:37,270 I don't think Warren Gary 112 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:39,510 had the knowledge at the time that 113 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:42,010 the vehicle would have any evidence in it. 114 00:06:45,220 --> 00:06:47,340 Ultimately, he is put 115 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:50,970 before the Louisiana Board of Ethics, and he's fined $10,000, 116 00:06:50,970 --> 00:06:52,920 but he's cleared of any criminal charges, 117 00:06:52,930 --> 00:06:55,180 and actually becomes head of the evidence room 118 00:06:55,180 --> 00:06:57,680 for the sheriff's department, 119 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,930 which just felt like a really bizarre move. 120 00:07:00,930 --> 00:07:05,480 I mean, you have a guy who was just in trouble, 121 00:07:05,470 --> 00:07:07,670 a-and in enough trouble that the state decided 122 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,480 to fine him for it, regarding something 123 00:07:11,470 --> 00:07:13,630 that could be a piece of evidence being sold. 124 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,480 And now he's head of the evidence room. 125 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:21,130 It just felt kind of like a little... 126 00:07:21,130 --> 00:07:22,630 It-it felt like a "fuck you." 127 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,850 "We know that something has to be done, 128 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 but this is our investigation. 129 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,720 We're gonna run it how we want to, 130 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,720 and-and we're not gonna let anybody from-from the outside 131 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,380 influence that in any way, shape or form." 132 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:38,130 When I looked into the Warren Gary truck sale, 133 00:07:38,130 --> 00:07:42,670 specifically through the D.A.'s file on Kristen, 134 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,060 it became clear 135 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:47,880 that there were enormous 136 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:50,810 contradictions between 137 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,260 what Sheriff Edwards was saying, 138 00:07:53,260 --> 00:07:56,800 and what was in their own files essentially. 139 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,760 They were seemingly telling outright lies. 140 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,590 And what's even more disturbing about that is 141 00:08:04,590 --> 00:08:08,670 that the falsehoods that were being pedaled 142 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,230 about Warren Gary and the truck 143 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:14,340 are not just about the truck. 144 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:18,630 They're also about Warren Gary's 145 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,310 alleged relationship 146 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:24,050 to one of the main suspects-- 147 00:08:24,050 --> 00:08:25,840 Frankie Richard. 148 00:08:44,220 --> 00:08:46,090 Several months after Kristen's homicide 149 00:08:46,090 --> 00:08:48,550 in March of 2007, 150 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:51,760 two female inmate witnesses approached 151 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,470 Sergeant Jesse Ewing of the Jennings Police Department 152 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:56,130 with statements about the truck. 153 00:09:52,390 --> 00:09:53,930 What this lady 154 00:09:53,930 --> 00:09:56,180 on this recording is saying is not true. 155 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:57,980 That-that is... 156 00:09:59,890 --> 00:10:03,100 ...insane that this lady 157 00:10:03,090 --> 00:10:06,920 that I don't even know... 158 00:10:06,930 --> 00:10:10,770 thinks that I would just confess something like that to her. 159 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,510 Like, what would I gain from that? 160 00:10:15,930 --> 00:10:19,680 When you listen to the Jesse Ewing tapes, 161 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:23,060 and there are direct and credible allegations 162 00:10:23,050 --> 00:10:25,720 about the involvement 163 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,630 of the sheriff's office chief investigator in the case, 164 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,230 that sense of... 165 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:37,260 well, this is a small-town 166 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:40,840 sheriff's office trying to do their best 167 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,050 and making some mistakes 168 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:46,260 sort of flies out the window. 169 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:48,380 Because Jesse Ewing feared 170 00:10:48,390 --> 00:10:52,270 corruption in Jeff Davis Parish law enforcement, 171 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:54,010 he released these statements 172 00:10:54,010 --> 00:10:56,920 to a private investigator, who sent them on to the FBI. 173 00:10:56,930 --> 00:10:58,810 He didn't feel comfortable 174 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,760 going to anyone locally, not even his superiors. 175 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,340 So he gave it to me, and I delivered it 176 00:11:04,340 --> 00:11:06,470 to the appropriate individuals. 177 00:11:06,470 --> 00:11:08,510 The result of those statements 178 00:11:08,510 --> 00:11:10,510 was not a deepening investigation 179 00:11:10,510 --> 00:11:13,880 of Frankie Richard or Warren Gary, 180 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:17,560 who had already been essentially found guilty of misconduct. 181 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:22,050 It was a major state police investigation 182 00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:24,380 into Jesse Ewing. 183 00:11:24,390 --> 00:11:27,560 Arrested yesterday by Louisiana State Police, 184 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:30,510 a veteran of the Jennings Police Department stands accused 185 00:11:30,510 --> 00:11:33,260 of obstruction of justice and malfeasance in office. 186 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:34,720 The charges 187 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,340 Jennings Police Sergeant Jesse Ewing faces 188 00:11:37,340 --> 00:11:39,300 centers around the ongoing investigations 189 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:43,760 of the unsolved murders of four Jeff Davis Parish women. 190 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880 At the time, the public 191 00:11:46,890 --> 00:11:48,930 was entirely unaware 192 00:11:48,930 --> 00:11:50,890 of the content 193 00:11:50,890 --> 00:11:52,680 of those tapes. 194 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:56,390 All the public knew was that 195 00:11:56,390 --> 00:11:58,930 Jesse Ewing was in trouble 196 00:11:58,930 --> 00:12:02,890 for basically breaking the chain of custody on evidence. 197 00:12:04,590 --> 00:12:08,420 Jesse Ewing then essentially pled out 198 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:12,180 to a malfeasance in office charge, 199 00:12:12,180 --> 00:12:15,890 and Frankie Richard remained free. 200 00:12:18,260 --> 00:12:20,920 What do you say about whether that truck 201 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:24,270 was involved in the case and whether evidence 202 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:28,090 may have been lost when it was washed or whatever? 203 00:12:28,090 --> 00:12:29,800 I-I would think that there's forensic evidence 204 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,260 found even after vehicles are washed. 205 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:34,130 It happens all the time. 206 00:12:34,130 --> 00:12:37,260 It's not a guarantee, but I'm not exactly sure 207 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:39,380 how important that truck is. 208 00:12:39,390 --> 00:12:41,310 Nevertheless, 209 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:43,420 Warren was disciplined by the ethics board 210 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:45,310 to the maximum that could be done 211 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,380 and he was taken off the case. 212 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:49,140 We moved forward. 213 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:56,550 The official narrative of the murders 214 00:12:56,550 --> 00:12:59,840 when I arrived in Jennings was that it was most likely 215 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,920 a single perpetrator, or a serial killer. 216 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:07,230 But when I began to learn of the misconduct 217 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,880 in the Jeff Davis 8 case, 218 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:13,810 like Warren Gary selling a key piece of evidence, 219 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,760 it seemed to me that 220 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,630 something was going on here that couldn't be, 221 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,180 necessarily, boiled down to a serial killer case. 222 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:31,140 Typically, in a serial killer case, 223 00:13:31,130 --> 00:13:34,420 the victims would not know one another. 224 00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:39,180 In this case, the Jeff Davis 8 had myriad connections. 225 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:42,520 For example, seven of the eight of the women 226 00:13:42,510 --> 00:13:44,470 were connected to Frankie Richard 227 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:47,970 who's been in the Jennings underworld for decades 228 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:52,550 as a pimp, a drug dealer, a street hustler. 229 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:54,970 They engaged in sex work for him. 230 00:13:56,260 --> 00:13:58,170 When Frankie 231 00:13:58,180 --> 00:14:01,480 and Frankie's niece Hannah had been arrested 232 00:14:01,470 --> 00:14:04,550 and charged, it became a classic 233 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:05,840 "we got 'em" moment 234 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,050 for Ricky Edwards, 235 00:14:08,050 --> 00:14:09,090 the then sheriff. 236 00:14:09,090 --> 00:14:10,970 But the collapse of the case 237 00:14:10,970 --> 00:14:14,340 received little to no coverage. 238 00:14:14,340 --> 00:14:17,670 Frankie and his goddaughter were simply free. 239 00:14:20,340 --> 00:14:22,880 Beyond Frankie and Hannah, 240 00:14:22,890 --> 00:14:26,140 there were other credible suspects, and yet, 241 00:14:26,130 --> 00:14:30,760 when other murders occurred, a theory of a single killer 242 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,880 was pushed aggressively. 243 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,050 In one of the cases, Ernestine Patterson, 244 00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:42,220 two men-- Byron Chad Jones and Lawrence Nixon-- 245 00:14:42,220 --> 00:14:46,550 had actually been arrested on second degree murder charges. 246 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:49,090 Those cases fell apart and the charges were dropped. 247 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,850 I think Law Nixon 248 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,090 and Byron Chad Jones killed my daughter. 249 00:14:56,090 --> 00:14:59,170 But Ricky Edwards let them go because there was n-- 250 00:14:59,180 --> 00:15:01,640 because they said they couldn't find no evidence. 251 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,890 And we still don't know what happened. 252 00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:09,310 The D.A.'s office obviously has the-the charging responsibility 253 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:10,880 in every... in the... 254 00:15:10,890 --> 00:15:12,560 They determine who and... 255 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:14,420 to prosecute and when to prosecute. 256 00:15:14,430 --> 00:15:16,020 In that particular case, 257 00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:18,510 the D.A.'s office decided not to prosecute. 258 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:21,590 The charges were dismissed at that time. 259 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:28,130 What I found out about 260 00:15:28,130 --> 00:15:29,970 Ernestine's Patterson's case 261 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:33,670 from reading her case file was 262 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,270 frustrating and strange and bewildering, 263 00:15:38,260 --> 00:15:40,840 because of the way in which 264 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,590 the investigation was conducted. 265 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Ernestine Patterson was discovered 266 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,130 on June 18, 2005. 267 00:15:55,130 --> 00:15:57,840 She was unusual because 268 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 she was not really in the clique of the women 269 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,050 who surrounded Frankie. 270 00:16:03,050 --> 00:16:05,970 She wasn't no bad girl. 271 00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:08,380 She was a good child. 272 00:16:08,390 --> 00:16:11,850 She never was in no-no... any trouble with the law or nothing. 273 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,550 And she tried to raise her four kids 274 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:16,760 b-by herself. 275 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,510 We did not know she was doing 276 00:16:18,510 --> 00:16:19,880 the drugs then, 'cause she would come here. 277 00:16:19,890 --> 00:16:21,770 We didn't know she was doing no drugs. 278 00:16:24,890 --> 00:16:27,810 There was a large file 279 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,510 that detailed the witness interviews that were conducted 280 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:33,720 in this case, and they had not 281 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,340 been scrutinized by the media 282 00:16:36,340 --> 00:16:39,920 or anybody else outside of the police. 283 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:42,430 The sorts of witness statements 284 00:16:42,430 --> 00:16:44,350 that came in 285 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:49,130 described something fairly simple. 286 00:16:49,130 --> 00:16:53,220 That Ernestine was out the night of her murder, 287 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:56,720 engaged in sex work in South Jennings, 288 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,970 and that she hooked up with two men-- 289 00:16:59,970 --> 00:17:03,800 Byron Chad Jones and Lawrence Nixon-- 290 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,050 at an abandoned house on a garage alley. 291 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:13,090 And that she was held down 292 00:17:13,090 --> 00:17:16,220 and stabbed to death. 293 00:17:19,470 --> 00:17:24,300 Nixon's girlfriend, Lucinda Kagy, said that 294 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:27,470 both men appeared at her house 295 00:17:27,470 --> 00:17:30,220 and that she saw firsthand 296 00:17:30,220 --> 00:17:34,630 Lawrence carrying an industrial-size garbage bag. 297 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,930 It seemed to be weighty, that the garbage bag was 298 00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:40,890 laid upon the porch, 299 00:17:40,890 --> 00:17:43,020 had blood coming out of it. 300 00:17:43,010 --> 00:17:45,760 Nixon's then girlfriend sprayed the porch down, 301 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,800 and the bag was then placed 302 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,800 into a white car and driven off. 303 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:58,050 One witness told law enforcement 304 00:17:58,050 --> 00:18:02,010 that a jagged-edged hunting knife 305 00:18:02,010 --> 00:18:04,920 was left in an abandoned home 306 00:18:04,930 --> 00:18:07,020 on a garage alley. 307 00:18:07,010 --> 00:18:09,840 It's unclear from the case file 308 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,090 if that tip was followed up on by law enforcement. 309 00:18:14,090 --> 00:18:16,880 And what's even more strange-- 310 00:18:16,890 --> 00:18:19,020 the floorboards on which 311 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:23,130 the bloody garbage bag was placed were not tested 312 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:25,050 for the presence of blood 313 00:18:25,050 --> 00:18:27,300 until 16 months after the incident, 314 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:29,470 which was too late to be valuable. 315 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:32,670 Unsurprisingly, when they were tested, 316 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,810 no blood was detected on them. 317 00:18:50,890 --> 00:18:53,020 Your ultimate goal 318 00:18:53,010 --> 00:18:54,300 and your best-case scenario would be 319 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,880 to-to test items as quickly as possible, 320 00:18:56,890 --> 00:18:58,770 but, like, sometimes, 321 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,760 you can't control that for different reasons. 322 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,340 And so, you just have to do the best you can with it. 323 00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:06,340 And hopefully, it gets tested. 324 00:19:06,340 --> 00:19:10,510 But I just can't comment on evidence on this case, 325 00:19:10,510 --> 00:19:12,090 because there are open cases, so... 326 00:19:12,090 --> 00:19:14,050 I know there's a lot of information out, 327 00:19:14,050 --> 00:19:17,340 but I prefer not to discuss evidence. 328 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,890 We don't know why it took 329 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:28,560 nearly two years to test the floorboards. 330 00:19:28,550 --> 00:19:32,170 We don't know why the jagged-edged hunting knife 331 00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:35,020 wasn't pursued the way it should have been pursued. 332 00:19:35,010 --> 00:19:36,590 And we don't know why, ultimately, 333 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:38,720 a decision was made to drop the case. 334 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,380 On the surface, the details 335 00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:49,850 of Ernestine's case are unexpected. 336 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,720 There seemed to be multiple credible suspects, 337 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,380 and even potential forensic evidence, 338 00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:59,270 in contrast to the official police narrative-- 339 00:19:59,260 --> 00:20:01,630 that all eight of these women 340 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,390 were likely the victims of a serial killer. 341 00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:09,390 Which leaves us wondering what the police knew 342 00:20:09,390 --> 00:20:11,730 about Ernestine's potential connection 343 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,220 to the other girls. 344 00:20:15,050 --> 00:20:18,720 So just as Ernestine's murder 345 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,050 is a mystery, 346 00:20:21,050 --> 00:20:23,010 there's also another mystery, 347 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:26,090 which is the mystery of the investigation itself, 348 00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:29,300 and why the case collapsed. 349 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,260 It's not at all clear. 350 00:20:35,090 --> 00:20:37,470 The women of the Jeff Davis 8 351 00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:41,590 had long criminal histories. 352 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:45,470 These were criminal histories that were not for things 353 00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:47,840 like murder or assault with a firearm. 354 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,010 These are things like drug charges, minor theft, 355 00:20:52,010 --> 00:20:54,760 writing bad checks. 356 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,670 The constant churn 357 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,560 of these women through the criminal legal system 358 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:03,300 put them in constant contact with the men 359 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:07,170 in Jeff Davis Parish law enforcement. 360 00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:10,390 When I interviewed witnesses in this case, 361 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:14,640 or family members... 362 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520 and when I reviewed police reports 363 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:20,470 and task force reports, 364 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:24,970 certain names of law enforcement came up repeatedly. 365 00:21:29,260 --> 00:21:32,670 When the women of the Jeff Davis 8 were arrested, 366 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,100 they were often held at the Jeff Davis Parish Jail. 367 00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:40,010 And from the early to mid 2000s, 368 00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:42,300 one of the key jailers 369 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,340 at the jail was a man named Danny Barry. 370 00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:50,350 Mr. Danny Barry took care of the inmates 371 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:54,010 up on the third floor of the sheriff's department. 372 00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:55,340 He treated us bad. 373 00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:57,090 Especially those that he knew and saw 374 00:21:57,090 --> 00:21:58,550 on the south side, he would treat you bad. 375 00:21:58,550 --> 00:22:01,760 He would mace you, for no reason. 376 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760 He'd come down the hall and just stick his can of Mace in there, 377 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,550 and he would mace the whole cell, just to be an ass. 378 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:13,010 When I was a free man back then, 379 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:15,840 and I was doing drugs, 380 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,380 many a nights, we would run the streets of Jennings 381 00:22:17,390 --> 00:22:19,270 on the south side of the tracks. 382 00:22:19,260 --> 00:22:21,340 Well, and Mr. Danny Barry was out there. 383 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:23,670 You'd see him parked on the side streets, 384 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,680 smoking his crack. 385 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,720 I owned a house on Craig Street, 386 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,760 and it became a-a safe haven 387 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,300 for the girls. 388 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,010 Danny Barry-- he would come to the house, 389 00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:45,880 looking for his wife. 390 00:22:45,890 --> 00:22:49,230 She would come there for us, and get one of the girls to go 391 00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:52,550 visit her home in... in the country where 392 00:22:52,550 --> 00:22:55,090 he lived, but-- where they both lived, 393 00:22:55,090 --> 00:22:57,550 to smoke drugs and have sex. 394 00:22:57,550 --> 00:23:00,470 And that's what it was all about-- 395 00:23:00,470 --> 00:23:02,970 drugs and sex. 396 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:08,090 He was 397 00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:10,090 seen by numerous witnesses 398 00:23:10,090 --> 00:23:12,300 over the span of several years, 399 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:15,010 picking up sex workers 400 00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:19,470 and taking them back to his trailer outside of Jennings. 401 00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:23,230 Danny Barry would go downtown, 402 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:27,170 lure the girls in, get 'em high, 403 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:29,270 bring 'em to his trailer, and they'd have fun. 404 00:23:29,260 --> 00:23:31,840 Sometimes he wouldn't let 'em go. 405 00:23:38,260 --> 00:23:40,510 Danny Barry 406 00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:44,470 had this nice little room in his trailer... 407 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:46,970 lined with Visqueen. 408 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,670 Who in the hell lines their walls and their celling 409 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,640 and their floor with Visqueen for just no reason? 410 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Danny Barry's trailer was well known 411 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,970 to sex workers in Jennings. 412 00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:04,970 It was known as a kind of 413 00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:08,090 sex dungeon with 414 00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:09,970 chains and other materials 415 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:12,470 that would be associated with a kind of dominant 416 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:16,050 and submissive sexual culture. 417 00:24:16,050 --> 00:24:19,170 This was a trailer well known 418 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:22,390 to sex workers in the area. 419 00:24:24,550 --> 00:24:28,260 On November 2, 2008, Brittney Gary, 420 00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:31,380 who at 17 years old was the youngest 421 00:24:31,390 --> 00:24:33,810 of the Jeff Davis 8, 422 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,510 was at the South Andrew Street drug house 423 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:39,050 where many of these women 424 00:24:39,050 --> 00:24:42,170 would congregate at and do drugs at 425 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:43,640 and pick up men at. 426 00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:48,680 And then later, Brittney left 427 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,350 the South Andrew Street home, walked on foot 428 00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:56,670 to the Family Dollar store... 429 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,680 purchased minutes for her cell phone. 430 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,600 She made a brief four-second call to Otis Brown, 431 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:07,590 Laconia "Muggy" Brown's cousin, 432 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:09,840 asking to be picked up at the Family Dollar. 433 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,630 Otis refused to pick her up. 434 00:25:12,930 --> 00:25:14,810 This was... 435 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,380 the last known communication of Brittney. 436 00:25:21,390 --> 00:25:24,810 At least one witness told law enforcement 437 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,720 that soon afterward, she was seen getting into a vehicle 438 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,550 with Danny Barry. 439 00:25:30,550 --> 00:25:34,050 All of this was discussed with law enforcement, 440 00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:36,880 specifically, task force investigators. 441 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:48,170 On or about November 4, 2008... 442 00:25:50,430 --> 00:25:53,930 ...Brittney's body was dumped 443 00:25:53,930 --> 00:25:55,930 off of Keystone Road. 444 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:12,100 The Jeff Davis 8 case, across the board, 445 00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:15,760 is challenged by a lack of physical evidence. 446 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,510 So what you have is witnesses, 447 00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:23,260 witnesses are gonna guide the case. 448 00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:26,470 And task force witnesses 449 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:30,090 repeatedly told its investigators 450 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:32,420 that they needed to look at Danny Barry 451 00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:35,600 as a suspect in this case. 452 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:37,550 But when Danny Barry 453 00:26:37,550 --> 00:26:39,970 was eventually interviewed by the task force, 454 00:26:39,970 --> 00:26:44,090 it was a remarkably short interview, 455 00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,920 lasting somewhere around 15 456 00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:48,730 or 20 minutes in total. 457 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,050 It was an interview 458 00:27:49,050 --> 00:27:51,340 that would have made sense 459 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:55,840 if they had not received any information at all, 460 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,220 or if the information was vague 461 00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:01,550 or unsubstantiated, 462 00:28:01,550 --> 00:28:03,380 but it was none of those things. 463 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:06,890 It was consistent information 464 00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:09,890 from firsthand witnesses, 465 00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:13,310 placing Danny Barry in South Jennings 466 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,380 picking up sex workers 467 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:18,060 and having direct relationships 468 00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:19,880 with the Jeff Davis 8. 469 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,010 Mr. Danny Barry was believed 470 00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:27,630 to be involved in the... 471 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,810 th-the murder of the eight women. 472 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,590 And to this day, it's possible that he is, 473 00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:34,380 but Mr. Danny Barry is dead and gone now. 474 00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:37,770 But that doesn't ex-excuse him 475 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,300 for anything that maybe he done, you know. 476 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:43,550 We may never know 477 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:47,590 what Danny's involvement was in this case. 478 00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:49,760 But Danny was not the only person 479 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,880 from the Jeff Davis Parish Sheriff's Office 480 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:56,430 who was mentioned repeatedly by witnesses. 481 00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:58,850 There was also his boss, 482 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,090 warden of the parish jail, Terrie Guillory. 483 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:11,630 We grew up knowing Terrie Guillory. 484 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,060 Back then, Ivory Guillory, his brother, was on the force. 485 00:29:15,050 --> 00:29:19,590 So them two was two of the main cops around town. 486 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:22,260 He was always a friend of the family from when I was a kid. 487 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,630 Growing up, he'd always taken care of us. 488 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,230 He did anything he could 489 00:29:27,220 --> 00:29:28,510 to help me out growing up. 490 00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:30,470 I mean, he never was bad to us. 491 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:33,470 He always did to help us, always helped. 492 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:36,130 Everybody loved Terrie Guillory back then. 493 00:29:36,130 --> 00:29:38,720 When my son Donovan was young, 494 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,970 Donovan always wanted to be a cop. 495 00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:43,130 And Terrie would pass by 496 00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:45,970 and let him turn the lights on or whatever, in the car. 497 00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:48,720 Or Terrie would take him for a ride in the car. 498 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,340 And they just always called him Uncle Terrie. 499 00:29:51,340 --> 00:29:53,130 I've known Terrie 500 00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:56,090 for a very long time, you know. 501 00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:59,170 Anybody, if you needed a favor or whatever, call Terrie, 502 00:29:59,180 --> 00:30:01,310 you know, he'll help you. 503 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,720 Everybody thinks they can trust this person on the police force. 504 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,050 I know that Crystal did. 505 00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:09,800 Crystal trusted him. 506 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,630 Terrie Guillory was the warden 507 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,560 of the parish jail during the period 508 00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:15,840 of the Jeff Davis 8 homicides. 509 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,170 His ex-wife at the time, 510 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:22,230 Paula Guillory, also worked for the sheriff's office 511 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:25,920 as an investigator. 512 00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:29,560 Terrie knew most, if not all of the Jeff Davis 8. 513 00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:32,220 He was even connected by blood 514 00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,420 to victim number eight, Necole Guillory. 515 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:39,010 Terrie is 516 00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:40,970 my nephew by marriage. 517 00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:44,970 And Necole is Terrie's cousin. 518 00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:48,380 Necole told me one time that Terrie made the comment 519 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:51,350 that if she wouldn't be kin to him, 520 00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:53,840 that he would... 521 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,260 sleep with her. 522 00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:58,420 And he said, 523 00:30:58,430 --> 00:31:01,230 it didn't matter anyway, he said. 524 00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:03,720 N-Necole said that he told her 525 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,590 that th-they weren't close cousins anyhow. 526 00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:08,170 But that's bullshit. 527 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:15,470 Necole's second home was the jailhouse. 528 00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:19,470 I don't know too much about what went on in jail. 529 00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:23,170 But they told me that Terrie could be mean to some of 'em. 530 00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:26,350 You know, if they wouldn't do what he wanted to do, 531 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:29,090 he-he could pretty well-- 532 00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:31,340 you know, he could make 'em-- make their life miserable. 533 00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:37,260 Outside of the jail, 534 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:38,970 Terrie Guillory was someone 535 00:31:38,970 --> 00:31:43,130 that the Jeff Davis 8 called on for help 536 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:45,340 whenever they were in a bind. 537 00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:48,800 He was a go-to person for help because, 538 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,970 according to south side residents, 539 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:57,840 he would engage in kind of trades with you. 540 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,470 If you gave Terrie some information 541 00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:03,760 about a drug dealer, he might let a ticket go, 542 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,340 he might let a drug charge go. 543 00:32:14,430 --> 00:32:16,020 The Jeff Davis 8, 544 00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:18,470 as women who cycled in and out of the jail 545 00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:20,590 fairly constantly-- 546 00:32:20,590 --> 00:32:23,130 they were intimately aware 547 00:32:23,130 --> 00:32:27,380 of the dynamic that Terrie had 548 00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:30,140 with residents of the south side. 549 00:32:36,090 --> 00:32:37,630 If Loretta or myself 550 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,310 or anyone of the crew 551 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,300 break the law in any kind of way, 552 00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,300 be in a bar or something and the cops will get called, 553 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:45,840 Terrie Guillory was always on the scene 554 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,090 when it came down to... 555 00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:50,630 the-the junkies and the prostitutes. 556 00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:57,600 Terrie Guillory was more than willing to... 557 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:59,670 to lend his hand. 558 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,140 But things didn't... 559 00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,840 they didn't get dealt with right. 560 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,170 Not like a normal police officer would have dealt with it. 561 00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:11,350 He had a thing for Loretta, Terrie Guillory. 562 00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:12,590 He had a-he had a thing for Loretta. 563 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:14,880 Of course, not too many men didn't. 564 00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:18,020 She was gorgeous, beautiful, very intelligent, 565 00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:19,510 but very addicted to crack. 566 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,970 Loretta and Terrie had-had to have some 567 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:27,720 kind of relationship-- I don't know. 568 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,550 I'm not gonna speculate. 569 00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:31,510 I'm not gonna guess. 570 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:34,170 But there had to have something. 571 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:36,520 I-I don't know what, because 572 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,220 when she got-- Loretta got released 573 00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:40,130 that last time that she was in jail 574 00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:43,880 before she got killed, Terrie Guillory brought her home 575 00:33:43,890 --> 00:33:45,980 to my house. 576 00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:49,510 Them fuckers never gave me a ride home. 577 00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:51,510 I've been to jail a lot of times. 578 00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:53,550 I don't care if it's the middle of the night, 579 00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:55,970 cold as hell-- nobody offered me a ride home. 580 00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:04,140 Loretta, the relationship 581 00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:07,380 with Terrie, a lot of it 582 00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:09,060 was hearsay, you know, 583 00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:11,380 but there had been sexual relations 584 00:34:11,390 --> 00:34:14,060 between the two throughout the years. 585 00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:16,630 And I... I do know that for a fact. 586 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,730 When I was probably 11, 12 years old, 587 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,670 and that would have put Loretta at 14 or 15, 588 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,140 he picked us up in a city police car, 589 00:34:27,130 --> 00:34:29,260 and we went to his house. 590 00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:31,220 I mean, I ended up spending the night 591 00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:33,970 at his house one night with her on the couch. 592 00:34:33,970 --> 00:34:36,260 I was on the couch. 593 00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:38,920 I mean, I went to sleep, but I remember waking up 594 00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:40,560 in the middle of the night and... 595 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:43,260 she was coming back down from his room. 596 00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:46,010 They-they had sex. 597 00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:48,130 She had told me, you know. 598 00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:50,550 Of course, what other reason would he pick us up 599 00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:52,300 and bring us to his house for, 600 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,010 you know, when we were out after curfew? 601 00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:55,920 She was young. 602 00:34:55,930 --> 00:34:57,890 He was definitely not at the age 603 00:34:57,890 --> 00:35:01,180 that you should be sleeping with a 14, 15-year-old. 604 00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:03,350 Yeah. 605 00:35:03,340 --> 00:35:05,090 I remember an incident. 606 00:35:05,090 --> 00:35:09,090 I was incarcerated with Loretta. 607 00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:12,970 I remember waking up in the middle of the night and... 608 00:35:12,970 --> 00:35:15,630 and I could hear noises. 609 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,310 So I jumped down from my bunk, 610 00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:21,090 and when you opened the thing, you could see, 611 00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:23,300 you know, it was big enough for you to see. 612 00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,130 And looking through this little hole, 613 00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:29,840 and she was in the last cell, 614 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,130 and you could see Terrie Guillory 615 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,050 with his pants halfway down, 616 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:39,800 having intercourse with Loretta Chaisson 617 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,090 in the last-- The door was closed, 618 00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:44,340 but he was doing it through the thing. 619 00:35:44,340 --> 00:35:47,670 And after that, she got whatever she wanted. 620 00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:53,630 And poor thing would cry. She hated herself. 621 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,980 She felt since she was a little girl that's all she was worth. 622 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:19,920 Before everybody even knew 623 00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,890 Loretta got killed, 624 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:27,230 I got a knock on the door and it was Terrie Guillory. 625 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:34,170 And he says, "Hey, Barbara," 626 00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:35,730 or whatever the heck he said. 627 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,550 And he's like, "Have you seen Loretta?" 628 00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:42,050 And I said, "Well, no. 629 00:36:42,050 --> 00:36:44,260 Why, is something the matter?" 630 00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:47,380 "No, no. I'm just checking on her." 631 00:36:48,970 --> 00:36:50,300 "Okay." 632 00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:55,170 What the hell you checking on her for? 633 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:57,600 Little while later, 634 00:36:57,590 --> 00:37:01,630 at one of my son's friend's house-- Donovan's-- 635 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,430 Jesse Ewing, city police, was over there, 636 00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:08,270 and Donovan overheard the call on the radio 637 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:11,380 saying they found a female's body in the canal. 638 00:37:12,970 --> 00:37:14,840 Nick and I left my house 639 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,670 and came all the way down 640 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,270 to the highway where the bridge was. 641 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,340 Well, after about 20 642 00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:25,630 or 30 minutes, 643 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,770 they start walking up the embankment on the side 644 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,590 of the bridge... 645 00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:32,760 And all of a sudden, we seen a couple 646 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,590 of heads popping up coming from underneath the bridge, 647 00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:36,170 and they were carrying a body bag. 648 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,770 Yeah. 649 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,170 The whole time I'm standing there thinking 650 00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:43,270 what the fuck did Terrie Guillory come 651 00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:45,010 to my house looking for Loretta for? 652 00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:46,470 Bam, here's a body. 653 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:48,630 Why did Terrie Guillory know this 654 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,270 before anybody said anything to-- you know, 655 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:53,090 about Loretta being missing-- no one was worried. 656 00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:55,470 I mean... 657 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,510 It would hurt... 658 00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:02,720 It hurts my heart if-if he is involved, 659 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,050 which, I mean, it's-it's hard to point away from it. 660 00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:06,800 It's hard to say he's not. 661 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,100 Crystal babysat for Terrie. 662 00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:25,590 I believed she was a babysitter. 663 00:38:27,550 --> 00:38:31,550 But I believe there was more to it than that. 664 00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:33,670 Yes, I believe Terrie Guillory slept with Crystal Benoit. 665 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,930 I sure do. 666 00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:42,560 Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno-- 667 00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:45,670 victim number six-- was a latecomer 668 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,020 to the world of... 669 00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:50,340 South Jennings sex work and drugs. 670 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,100 But she fell in right with the other women 671 00:38:57,090 --> 00:38:59,420 in their social networks. 672 00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:02,640 In the weeks before Crystal was killed, 673 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,140 her connections to Frankie Richard 674 00:39:06,130 --> 00:39:08,380 and his family only deepened. 675 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:11,230 She partied with Frankie's brother, 676 00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:14,420 Billy, and the Richard home 677 00:39:14,430 --> 00:39:18,480 on McKinley Street became a kind of 678 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:21,050 part-time residence for her. 679 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:24,220 On the day of her murder, Crystal walked 680 00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:26,340 to the Phillips 66 gas station, 681 00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:30,010 and made a phone call to Terrie Guillory. 682 00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:32,220 It is unclear 683 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:34,880 what the content of that call is. 684 00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:38,310 Numerous witnesses have said 685 00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:42,050 that soon after Crystal made the call to Terrie, 686 00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:43,880 she got into a white truck 687 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:47,100 with a group of men connected to Frankie Richard, 688 00:39:47,090 --> 00:39:50,670 who were known as Frankie Richard's hands-on men. 689 00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:55,270 "Hands-on men" means 690 00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:57,260 pretty much what it implies, 691 00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:59,420 meaning that these are the men 692 00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:02,430 who will actually harm people. 693 00:40:02,430 --> 00:40:06,350 They will have their hands on a victim. 694 00:40:06,340 --> 00:40:09,760 That is the last time that she was likely seen alive. 695 00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:13,920 Two weeks later, Crystal's body 696 00:40:13,930 --> 00:40:16,640 was found by hunters 697 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,020 in a wooded area off of Lacour Road. 698 00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:23,220 And her body was heavily decomposed. 699 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:28,140 I was informed by Crystal's family 700 00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:32,550 that Terrie Guillory showed up to the Benoit family home 701 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:35,970 and said that "Crystal is dead, 702 00:40:35,970 --> 00:40:37,720 but I didn't kill her." 703 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,470 That was, apparently, an unprompted remark. 704 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:44,260 Nobody asked Terrie, "Did you kill Crystal?" 705 00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:47,300 Nobody accused Terrie of killing Crystal. 706 00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,630 It seemingly didn't come up at all. 707 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,020 Terrie simply said, "I didn't kill Crystal." 708 00:40:59,470 --> 00:41:01,300 When I got wind of all this, 709 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,720 I called Terrie Guillory. 710 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,470 Terrie Guillory said that he seen one of the tattoos 711 00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:07,510 on her back, that he knew it was her. 712 00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:09,010 From the conditions I heard they found her body in 713 00:41:09,010 --> 00:41:10,670 after they found her, 714 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,060 there was no way he-he could have saw a tattoo. 715 00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:17,220 There was nothing there. 716 00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:20,880 The hunters didn't even know it was a body 717 00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:23,430 until they seen the skull. 718 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,350 They thought it was a dead coyote. 719 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480 Just like almost all of 720 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:32,800 these other cases, there was not a lot 721 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,800 of physical evidence, but there was 722 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,010 one witness 723 00:41:38,010 --> 00:41:40,300 that came forward. 724 00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:43,340 Russell Carrier 725 00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:46,170 was a southwest Louisiana resident. 726 00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:50,730 His sister, Barb Ann, was a kind of motherly figure 727 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,010 to many of the Jeff Davis 8. 728 00:41:54,010 --> 00:41:58,510 Right around the time that Crystal was murdered, 729 00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:01,380 Russell was out in the Lacour Road area. 730 00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:04,270 He was addicted to crack cocaine, 731 00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,420 and he would go into the very dense and wooded 732 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:09,730 and rural area around Lacour Road 733 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,170 to do drugs. 734 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:14,310 My brother was riding 735 00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:17,050 on the back road, smoking crack, 736 00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:19,720 when he came upon three black guys 737 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,300 exiting the wooded area where 738 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,720 Crystal's body was found. 739 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,720 The three men that 740 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,090 Russell said he observed 741 00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:30,760 leaving the wooded area 742 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,220 where Crystal's body had been dumped were 743 00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:36,720 Frankie Richard's hands-on men. 744 00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:45,630 Russell Carrier knew these men directly 745 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,430 from the drug world in South Jennings. 746 00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:52,600 He then told his family about this, 747 00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:56,800 and he, according to his family, reported 748 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,090 seeing these three men coming out of the woods, 749 00:43:00,090 --> 00:43:02,170 where Crystal's body had been dumped, 750 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:05,140 to the Jeff Davis Parish D.A.'s office. 751 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:06,760 We received information that 752 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,590 Mr. Carrier had information. 753 00:43:08,590 --> 00:43:11,760 Now, I can't get into, you know, how much of that was verified 754 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,670 in what-what we had. 755 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 I know what was-was received, and what was used 756 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,420 through the investigation. 757 00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:20,770 I can't-- I don't know what else might have been out there 758 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,470 that somebody said or didn't say. 759 00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:25,380 October 10, 760 00:43:25,390 --> 00:43:28,480 2010, my brother came banging on the door. 761 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:30,220 He said, "You need to come with me, 762 00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:32,470 and you need to come with me now." 763 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:34,300 They found Uncle Russell dead. 764 00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:40,630 Russell was struck by a train 765 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,230 in Jennings. 766 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:44,470 The family was told 767 00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:47,630 that Russell simply laid down 768 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,640 for an unknown reason, and was struck 769 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,480 by this train. -His death 770 00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:55,630 has not been ruled a homicide. 771 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,850 I don't have any information that he was killed 772 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,510 by an individual. 773 00:44:02,510 --> 00:44:04,090 The-the police report information 774 00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:06,010 that-that had part of our investigation is that 775 00:44:06,010 --> 00:44:07,720 he was struck by a train 776 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,170 while laying on the railroad tracks. 777 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:15,090 The police said Russell committed suicide. 778 00:44:15,090 --> 00:44:17,050 Fuck the police. 779 00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:20,010 That was not in him. 780 00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:23,010 My brother Russell did not lay down on the railroad track 781 00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:24,340 and let a fucking train run over him. 782 00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:31,260 Someone beat my brother to death and put him on the tracks 783 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:33,010 for the train to run over him 784 00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:36,920 to hide what truly happened. 785 00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:39,480 The cops, when I talked to them years later-- 786 00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:41,720 the case is still open-- 787 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,630 they're full of fucking shit. 788 00:44:58,050 --> 00:45:00,590 After Crystal's homicide, 789 00:45:00,590 --> 00:45:01,880 there were now 790 00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:03,600 six victims 791 00:45:03,590 --> 00:45:07,130 with deep connections to Frankie Richard. 792 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,550 And many of them with Terrie Guillory. 793 00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:16,380 The fact that the names 794 00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:19,350 of Terrie Guillory and Frankie Richard 795 00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:22,670 hover around these cases 796 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,890 complicates... 797 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:28,930 this sprawling and still open murder case. 798 00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:31,770 In 2009, 799 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,760 a number of people claimed to have observed, 800 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,510 firsthand, Terrie Guillory and his ex-wife, 801 00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:40,420 Paula, 802 00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:44,270 socializing with Frankie 803 00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:47,840 at the Richard family home on McKinley Street. 804 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,260 I'd been knowing Terrie Guillory 805 00:45:52,260 --> 00:45:54,380 all his life. 806 00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:57,270 I always felt like 807 00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:59,420 he was somewhat... 808 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,340 ...a friend. 809 00:46:03,340 --> 00:46:06,880 Not the type of friend 810 00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:09,140 that I would go... 811 00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:14,020 ...beat somebody up with, 812 00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:18,010 or go rob somebody with. 813 00:46:18,010 --> 00:46:21,970 But anytime Terry Guillory 814 00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:25,800 came to our house, 815 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,550 where I was, 816 00:46:29,550 --> 00:46:33,670 it was to conduct police business. 817 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,930 I've caught Paula's car 818 00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:38,730 over there numerous times during the day, 819 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,130 at Frankie Richard's mom's house. 820 00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:43,260 What'd she be over there for period, 821 00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:45,590 unless he's working for you? 822 00:46:45,590 --> 00:46:47,720 Or he's working for your husband. 823 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,720 Or you're buying coke. What you doing? 824 00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,090 There's no reason for you to be over there. 825 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,840 Was Terrie Guillory ever 826 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,010 in-involved in the drugs or prostitution trade, 827 00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:18,670 to your knowledge? 828 00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:23,090 I do know that, yeah. 829 00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:29,340 He brought you into law enforcement? 830 00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:32,420 The formation 831 00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:34,390 of this group today will allow 832 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:37,100 eight to ten people to work full-time 833 00:47:37,090 --> 00:47:39,510 and exclusively to these cases. 834 00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:42,010 We will continue to search for leads, 835 00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:45,050 utilizing every resource that is available to us. 836 00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:47,720 When the task force 837 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,760 was created, 838 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,510 there was an initial burst of optimism. 839 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:57,970 But the hope that the alleged relationships 840 00:47:57,970 --> 00:48:00,340 that Terrie Guillory had with Frankie Richard 841 00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:02,800 and the women of the Jeff Davis 8 842 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,380 would be investigated deeply were dashed when 843 00:48:07,390 --> 00:48:11,100 Terrie's ex-wife, Paula Guillory, 844 00:48:11,090 --> 00:48:13,090 landed a prominent place 845 00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:16,010 on the task force. 846 00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:17,670 There were eight dead women, 847 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,930 no justice for any of those women. 848 00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:23,310 And investigations into Frankie unraveling 849 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,590 due to law enforcement misconduct. 850 00:48:26,590 --> 00:48:28,630 It forces you to ask, 851 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,730 what was Frankie's relationship 852 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,050 with law enforcement? 853 00:48:35,470 --> 00:48:37,630 Two witnesses who went to the task force 854 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,230 with information about Frankie Richard, 855 00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:43,380 and with information about the Jeff Davis 8 homicides, 856 00:48:43,390 --> 00:48:45,930 came away from that meeting and said they were told 857 00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:47,640 by the task force, 858 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,430 "Don't worry about Frankie Richard. 859 00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:55,970 Frankie Richard works for us." 63773

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.