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They claim this is
the route that Brittney took
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the day that
Brittney disappeared.
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There's a camera
at the door right there.
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That's the only camera,
is right there,
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that caught my daughter
that day.
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I'm trying to imagine
what Brittney saw
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because they said
she looked so scared.
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What she was thinking
at that... at that time.
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What was going
through her mind.
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Seems like either she saw
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something on her way
to the dollar store...
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or on her way out.
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So it was like...
That was it.
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She just vanished in thin air.
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Gone.
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Jennings is just one
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crooked-ass town.
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I've never seen a town
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be so incompetent,
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pathetic.
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We just want something,
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some type of justice.
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I think law enforcement
knows everything.
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Law enforcement have a story.
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We do believe right now,
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as far as
the investigation goes,
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that it is one offender,
behaviorally, at this time.
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That is how the "story"
is told and believed,
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but I don't believe that
for one second.
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Let me do tell you,
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there is no serial killer
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in Jeff Davis Parish.
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There never was.
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For years,
approaching Jennings,
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I would get a kind of
sick feeling
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because, after years
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of working on the case,
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everything that I knew
from talking to the families,
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about the homicides themselves,
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created this weight
in my stomach where I'd feel
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physically ill.
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When I began looking
at the case in 2011,
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the case was very quiet,
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all eight of the homicides
were unsolved,
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and there was a lot
of apathy in town.
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The folks in Jennings,
in Jeff Davis Parish,
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generally, early on,
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had essentially resigned
themselves to the idea that
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this impossible-to-understand
case
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with a likely serial killer
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at the center of it was
never going to be solved.
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The relationship
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between the town and
law enforcement was complex,
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and I also believed,
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divided along
socioeconomic lines.
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On the north side of town,
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where you had more middle-class
and upper middle-class folks,
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there was a comfort level
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with law enforcement
that was very high.
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You would have people say
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th-things like,
"They're doing their best."
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You know, "God bless them.
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They're trying.
They're out there.
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What else can they do?
It's a small town."
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On the south side,
what I began to hear
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was murmurings of
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law enforcement misconduct
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or perhaps something far worse.
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Early in the summer of 2007,
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the Jennings Daily News gets
a tip that we need to look into
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the chief investigator
Warren Gary.
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That there was an issue
with him
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purchasing a truck
from an inmate
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and then selling it
to make a profit.
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Now, right off the top, there's
nothing inherently illegal
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in that situation,
but what we are told is that
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that truck may have been
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the crime scene where
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Kristen Gary Lopez
was murdered.
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Former Chief Criminal
Investigator Warren Gary
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found himself
under investigation
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after he bought a truck
from jail inmate Connie Siler
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and later sold it for a profit.
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Some believe that truck
may have had a connection
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to the death
of one of the women.
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Numerous witnesses discussed
how Kristen was riding
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in a white Chevy Silverado
prior to her death
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with Connie Siler,
an associate of Frankie's.
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Frankie, Frankie's goddaughter
Hannah Conner,
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and Tracee Chaisson.
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What, if anything,
do you know about that truck
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that Connie Siler sold?
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I don't know nothing about the
truck. All I know is that...
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it's, um,
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that it was sold to a detective.
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You know anything
about anybody's body being put
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- in it or anything like that?
. No. I don't.
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Connie Siler, the owner
of the Chevy Silverado
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sold the truck for about
7 or $8,000
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to a chief investigator
of the sheriff's office,
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Warren Gary,
and then Gary resold it
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for approximately $15,000.
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This is
a potential crime scene,
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and now it's been
sold for profit
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and given to a private citizen
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and law enforcement didn't want
to believe anything
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was going on wrong
with Warren Gary
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and that truck situation.
-What I see is that
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it was an opportunity for
somebody to make some money.
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Buy a vehicle, sell the
vehicle, and make a profit.
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I don't think Warren Gary
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had the knowledge
at the time that
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the vehicle would have
any evidence in it.
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Ultimately, he is put
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before the Louisiana Board of
Ethics, and he's fined $10,000,
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but he's cleared
of any criminal charges,
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and actually becomes
head of the evidence room
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for the sheriff's department,
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which just felt like
a really bizarre move.
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I mean, you have a guy
who was just in trouble,
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a-and in enough trouble
that the state decided
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to fine him for it,
regarding something
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that could be a piece
of evidence being sold.
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And now he's head
of the evidence room.
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It just felt kind of
like a little...
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It-it felt like a "fuck you."
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"We know that something
has to be done,
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but this is our investigation.
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We're gonna run it
how we want to,
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and-and we're not gonna let
anybody from-from the outside
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influence that in any way,
shape or form."
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When I looked into
the Warren Gary truck sale,
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specifically through
the D.A.'s file on Kristen,
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it became clear
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that there were enormous
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contradictions between
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what Sheriff Edwards was saying,
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and what was in
their own files essentially.
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They were seemingly
telling outright lies.
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And what's even more
disturbing about that is
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that the falsehoods
that were being pedaled
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about Warren Gary and the truck
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are not just about the truck.
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They're also about Warren Gary's
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alleged relationship
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to one of the main suspects--
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Frankie Richard.
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Several months
after Kristen's homicide
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in March of 2007,
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two female inmate
witnesses approached
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Sergeant Jesse Ewing of the
Jennings Police Department
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with statements
about the truck.
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What this lady
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on this recording is
saying is not true.
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That-that is...
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...insane that this lady
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that I don't even know...
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thinks that I would just confess
something like that to her.
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Like, what would I gain
from that?
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When you listen
to the Jesse Ewing tapes,
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and there are direct
and credible allegations
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about the involvement
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of the sheriff's office
chief investigator in the case,
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that sense of...
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well, this is a small-town
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sheriff's office
trying to do their best
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and making some mistakes
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sort of flies out the window.
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Because Jesse Ewing feared
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corruption in Jeff Davis
Parish law enforcement,
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he released these statements
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to a private investigator,
who sent them on to the FBI.
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He didn't feel comfortable
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going to anyone locally,
not even his superiors.
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So he gave it to me,
and I delivered it
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to the appropriate individuals.
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The result of those statements
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was not a deepening
investigation
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of Frankie Richard
or Warren Gary,
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who had already been essentially
found guilty of misconduct.
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It was a major
state police investigation
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into Jesse Ewing.
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Arrested yesterday
by Louisiana State Police,
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a veteran of the Jennings
Police Department stands accused
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of obstruction of justice
and malfeasance in office.
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The charges
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Jennings Police Sergeant
Jesse Ewing faces
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centers around
the ongoing investigations
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of the unsolved murders of
four Jeff Davis Parish women.
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At the time, the public
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was entirely unaware
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of the content
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of those tapes.
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All the public knew was that
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Jesse Ewing was in trouble
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for basically breaking the
chain of custody on evidence.
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Jesse Ewing then
essentially pled out
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to a malfeasance
in office charge,
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and Frankie Richard
remained free.
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What do you say
about whether that truck
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was involved in the case
and whether evidence
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may have been lost when
it was washed or whatever?
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I-I would think
that there's forensic evidence
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found even after vehicles
are washed.
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It happens all the time.
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It's not a guarantee,
but I'm not exactly sure
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how important that truck is.
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Nevertheless,
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Warren was disciplined
by the ethics board
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to the maximum
that could be done
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and he was taken off the case.
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We moved forward.
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The official narrative
of the murders
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when I arrived in Jennings
was that it was most likely
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a single perpetrator,
or a serial killer.
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But when I began to learn
of the misconduct
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in the Jeff Davis 8 case,
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like Warren Gary selling
a key piece of evidence,
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it seemed to me that
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something was going on here
that couldn't be,
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necessarily, boiled down
to a serial killer case.
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Typically,
in a serial killer case,
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the victims would not
know one another.
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In this case, the Jeff Davis 8
had myriad connections.
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For example, seven
of the eight of the women
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were connected
to Frankie Richard
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who's been in the Jennings
underworld for decades
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as a pimp, a drug dealer,
a street hustler.
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They engaged
in sex work for him.
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When Frankie
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and Frankie's niece Hannah
had been arrested
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and charged,
it became a classic
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"we got 'em" moment
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for Ricky Edwards,
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the then sheriff.
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But the collapse of the case
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received
little to no coverage.
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Frankie and his goddaughter
were simply free.
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Beyond Frankie and Hannah,
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there were other credible
suspects, and yet,
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when other murders occurred,
a theory of a single killer
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was pushed aggressively.
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In one of the cases,
Ernestine Patterson,
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two men-- Byron Chad Jones
and Lawrence Nixon--
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had actually been arrested on
second degree murder charges.
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Those cases fell apart
and the charges were dropped.
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I think Law Nixon
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and Byron Chad Jones
killed my daughter.
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But Ricky Edwards let them go
because there was n--
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because they said they
couldn't find no evidence.
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And we still don't know
what happened.
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The D.A.'s office obviously has
the-the charging responsibility
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in every... in the...
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They determine who and...
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to prosecute and
when to prosecute.
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In that particular case,
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the D.A.'s office decided
not to prosecute.
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The charges were
dismissed at that time.
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What I found out about
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Ernestine's Patterson's case
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from reading her case file was
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frustrating and strange
and bewildering,
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because of the way in which
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the investigation
was conducted.
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Ernestine Patterson
was discovered
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on June 18, 2005.
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She was unusual because
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she was not really
in the clique of the women
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who surrounded Frankie.
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She wasn't no bad girl.
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She was a good child.
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She never was in no-no... any
trouble with the law or nothing.
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And she tried
to raise her four kids
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b-by herself.
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We did not know
she was doing
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the drugs then,
'cause she would come here.
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We didn't know
she was doing no drugs.
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There was a large file
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that detailed the witness
interviews that were conducted
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in this case, and they had not
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been scrutinized by the media
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or anybody else
outside of the police.
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The sorts of witness statements
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that came in
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described something
fairly simple.
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That Ernestine was out
the night of her murder,
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engaged in sex work
in South Jennings,
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and that she hooked up
with two men--
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Byron Chad Jones
and Lawrence Nixon--
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at an abandoned house
on a garage alley.
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And that she was held down
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and stabbed to death.
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Nixon's girlfriend,
Lucinda Kagy, said that
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both men appeared at her house
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and that she saw firsthand
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Lawrence carrying an
industrial-size garbage bag.
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It seemed to be weighty,
that the garbage bag was
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laid upon the porch,
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had blood coming out of it.
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Nixon's then girlfriend
sprayed the porch down,
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and the bag was then placed
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into a white car
and driven off.
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One witness told law enforcement
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that a jagged-edged
hunting knife
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was left in an abandoned home
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on a garage alley.
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It's unclear from the case file
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if that tip was followed
up on by law enforcement.
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And what's even more strange--
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the floorboards on which
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the bloody garbage bag
was placed were not tested
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for the presence of blood
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until 16 months
after the incident,
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which was too late
to be valuable.
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Unsurprisingly,
when they were tested,
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no blood was detected on them.
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Your ultimate goal
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and your best-case scenario
would be
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to-to test items
as quickly as possible,
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00:18:56,890 --> 00:18:58,770
but, like, sometimes,
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you can't control that
for different reasons.
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And so, you just have to do
the best you can with it.
323
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And hopefully, it gets tested.
324
00:19:06,340 --> 00:19:10,510
But I just can't comment
on evidence on this case,
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because there are
open cases, so...
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I know there's a lot
of information out,
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but I prefer not
to discuss evidence.
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We don't know why it took
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nearly two years
to test the floorboards.
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We don't know why
the jagged-edged hunting knife
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wasn't pursued the way
it should have been pursued.
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And we don't know why,
ultimately,
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00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:38,720
a decision was made
to drop the case.
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00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,380
On the surface, the details
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of Ernestine's case
are unexpected.
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There seemed to be
multiple credible suspects,
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and even potential
forensic evidence,
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in contrast to the official
police narrative--
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that all eight of these women
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were likely the victims
of a serial killer.
341
00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:09,390
Which leaves us wondering
what the police knew
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00:20:09,390 --> 00:20:11,730
about Ernestine's
potential connection
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00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,220
to the other girls.
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00:20:15,050 --> 00:20:18,720
So just as Ernestine's murder
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00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,050
is a mystery,
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00:20:21,050 --> 00:20:23,010
there's also another mystery,
347
00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:26,090
which is the mystery of
the investigation itself,
348
00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:29,300
and why the case collapsed.
349
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,260
It's not at all clear.
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00:20:35,090 --> 00:20:37,470
The women of the Jeff Davis 8
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had long criminal histories.
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These were criminal histories
that were not for things
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00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:47,840
like murder or assault
with a firearm.
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00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,010
These are things like
drug charges, minor theft,
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00:20:52,010 --> 00:20:54,760
writing bad checks.
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00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,670
The constant churn
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00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,560
of these women through
the criminal legal system
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put them in constant contact
with the men
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in Jeff Davis Parish
law enforcement.
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00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:10,390
When I interviewed
witnesses in this case,
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00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:14,640
or family members...
362
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520
and when I reviewed
police reports
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00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:20,470
and task force reports,
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00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:24,970
certain names of law enforcement
came up repeatedly.
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00:21:29,260 --> 00:21:32,670
When the women of the
Jeff Davis 8 were arrested,
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00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,100
they were often held at
the Jeff Davis Parish Jail.
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00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:40,010
And from the early to mid 2000s,
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00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:42,300
one of the key jailers
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00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,340
at the jail was a man
named Danny Barry.
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00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:50,350
Mr. Danny Barry
took care of the inmates
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00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:54,010
up on the third floor
of the sheriff's department.
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00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:55,340
He treated us bad.
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Especially those
that he knew and saw
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on the south side,
he would treat you bad.
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00:21:58,550 --> 00:22:01,760
He would mace you,
for no reason.
376
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760
He'd come down the hall and just
stick his can of Mace in there,
377
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,550
and he would mace the whole
cell, just to be an ass.
378
00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:13,010
When I was a free man
back then,
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00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:15,840
and I was doing drugs,
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00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,380
many a nights, we would
run the streets of Jennings
381
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on the south side of the tracks.
382
00:22:19,260 --> 00:22:21,340
Well, and Mr. Danny Barry
was out there.
383
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:23,670
You'd see him parked
on the side streets,
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00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,680
smoking his crack.
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00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,720
I owned
a house on Craig Street,
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00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,760
and it became a-a safe haven
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00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,300
for the girls.
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00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,010
Danny Barry-- he would
come to the house,
389
00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:45,880
looking for his wife.
390
00:22:45,890 --> 00:22:49,230
She would come there for us,
and get one of the girls to go
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00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:52,550
visit her home in...
in the country where
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00:22:52,550 --> 00:22:55,090
he lived, but--
where they both lived,
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00:22:55,090 --> 00:22:57,550
to smoke drugs and have sex.
394
00:22:57,550 --> 00:23:00,470
And that's what
it was all about--
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00:23:00,470 --> 00:23:02,970
drugs and sex.
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00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:08,090
He was
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00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:10,090
seen by numerous witnesses
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00:23:10,090 --> 00:23:12,300
over the span of several years,
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00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:15,010
picking up sex workers
400
00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:19,470
and taking them back to his
trailer outside of Jennings.
401
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:23,230
Danny Barry would go downtown,
402
00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:27,170
lure the girls in, get 'em high,
403
00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:29,270
bring 'em to his trailer,
and they'd have fun.
404
00:23:29,260 --> 00:23:31,840
Sometimes he wouldn't
let 'em go.
405
00:23:38,260 --> 00:23:40,510
Danny Barry
406
00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:44,470
had this nice little
room in his trailer...
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00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:46,970
lined with Visqueen.
408
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,670
Who in the hell lines their
walls and their celling
409
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,640
and their floor with Visqueen
for just no reason?
410
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,760
Danny Barry's
trailer was well known
411
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,970
to sex workers in Jennings.
412
00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:04,970
It was known as a kind of
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00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:08,090
sex dungeon with
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00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:09,970
chains and other materials
415
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:12,470
that would be associated
with a kind of dominant
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00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:16,050
and submissive sexual culture.
417
00:24:16,050 --> 00:24:19,170
This was a trailer well known
418
00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:22,390
to sex workers in the area.
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00:24:24,550 --> 00:24:28,260
On November 2, 2008,
Brittney Gary,
420
00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:31,380
who at 17 years old
was the youngest
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00:24:31,390 --> 00:24:33,810
of the Jeff Davis 8,
422
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,510
was at the South Andrew Street
drug house
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00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:39,050
where many of these women
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00:24:39,050 --> 00:24:42,170
would congregate at
and do drugs at
425
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:43,640
and pick up men at.
426
00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:48,680
And then later, Brittney left
427
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,350
the South Andrew Street home,
walked on foot
428
00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:56,670
to the Family Dollar store...
429
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,680
purchased minutes
for her cell phone.
430
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,600
She made a brief
four-second call to Otis Brown,
431
00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:07,590
Laconia "Muggy" Brown's cousin,
432
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:09,840
asking to be picked up
at the Family Dollar.
433
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,630
Otis refused to pick her up.
434
00:25:12,930 --> 00:25:14,810
This was...
435
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,380
the last known communication
of Brittney.
436
00:25:21,390 --> 00:25:24,810
At least one witness
told law enforcement
437
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,720
that soon afterward, she was
seen getting into a vehicle
438
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,550
with Danny Barry.
439
00:25:30,550 --> 00:25:34,050
All of this was discussed
with law enforcement,
440
00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:36,880
specifically,
task force investigators.
441
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:48,170
On or about November 4, 2008...
442
00:25:50,430 --> 00:25:53,930
...Brittney's body was dumped
443
00:25:53,930 --> 00:25:55,930
off of Keystone Road.
444
00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:12,100
The Jeff Davis 8 case,
across the board,
445
00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:15,760
is challenged by
a lack of physical evidence.
446
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,510
So what you have is witnesses,
447
00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:23,260
witnesses are gonna
guide the case.
448
00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:26,470
And task force witnesses
449
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:30,090
repeatedly told
its investigators
450
00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:32,420
that they needed
to look at Danny Barry
451
00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:35,600
as a suspect in this case.
452
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:37,550
But when Danny Barry
453
00:26:37,550 --> 00:26:39,970
was eventually interviewed
by the task force,
454
00:26:39,970 --> 00:26:44,090
it was a remarkably
short interview,
455
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,920
lasting somewhere around 15
456
00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:48,730
or 20 minutes in total.
457
00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,050
It was an interview
458
00:27:49,050 --> 00:27:51,340
that would have made sense
459
00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:55,840
if they had not received
any information at all,
460
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,220
or if the information was vague
461
00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:01,550
or unsubstantiated,
462
00:28:01,550 --> 00:28:03,380
but it was none of those things.
463
00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:06,890
It was consistent information
464
00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:09,890
from firsthand witnesses,
465
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:13,310
placing Danny Barry
in South Jennings
466
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,380
picking up sex workers
467
00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:18,060
and having direct relationships
468
00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:19,880
with the Jeff Davis 8.
469
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,010
Mr. Danny Barry was believed
470
00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:27,630
to be involved in the...
471
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,810
th-the murder
of the eight women.
472
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,590
And to this day,
it's possible that he is,
473
00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:34,380
but Mr. Danny Barry is dead
and gone now.
474
00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:37,770
But that doesn't ex-excuse him
475
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,300
for anything that maybe
he done, you know.
476
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:43,550
We may never know
477
00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:47,590
what Danny's involvement was
in this case.
478
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:49,760
But Danny was not
the only person
479
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,880
from the Jeff Davis Parish
Sheriff's Office
480
00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:56,430
who was mentioned repeatedly
by witnesses.
481
00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:58,850
There was also his boss,
482
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,090
warden of the parish jail,
Terrie Guillory.
483
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:11,630
We grew up knowing
Terrie Guillory.
484
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,060
Back then, Ivory Guillory,
his brother, was on the force.
485
00:29:15,050 --> 00:29:19,590
So them two was two
of the main cops around town.
486
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:22,260
He was always a friend of the
family from when I was a kid.
487
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,630
Growing up, he'd always
taken care of us.
488
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,230
He did anything he could
489
00:29:27,220 --> 00:29:28,510
to help me out growing up.
490
00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:30,470
I mean, he never was bad to us.
491
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:33,470
He always did to help us,
always helped.
492
00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:36,130
Everybody loved
Terrie Guillory back then.
493
00:29:36,130 --> 00:29:38,720
When my son Donovan was young,
494
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,970
Donovan always wanted
to be a cop.
495
00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:43,130
And Terrie would pass by
496
00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:45,970
and let him turn the lights on
or whatever, in the car.
497
00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:48,720
Or Terrie would take him
for a ride in the car.
498
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,340
And they just always
called him Uncle Terrie.
499
00:29:51,340 --> 00:29:53,130
I've known Terrie
500
00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:56,090
for a very long time, you know.
501
00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:59,170
Anybody, if you needed a favor
or whatever, call Terrie,
502
00:29:59,180 --> 00:30:01,310
you know, he'll help you.
503
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,720
Everybody thinks they can trust
this person on the police force.
504
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,050
I know that Crystal did.
505
00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:09,800
Crystal trusted him.
506
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,630
Terrie Guillory was the warden
507
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,560
of the parish jail
during the period
508
00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:15,840
of the Jeff Davis 8 homicides.
509
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,170
His ex-wife at the time,
510
00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:22,230
Paula Guillory, also worked
for the sheriff's office
511
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:25,920
as an investigator.
512
00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:29,560
Terrie knew most, if not all
of the Jeff Davis 8.
513
00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:32,220
He was even connected by blood
514
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,420
to victim number eight,
Necole Guillory.
515
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:39,010
Terrie is
516
00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:40,970
my nephew by marriage.
517
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:44,970
And Necole is Terrie's cousin.
518
00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:48,380
Necole told me one time
that Terrie made the comment
519
00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:51,350
that if she wouldn't
be kin to him,
520
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:53,840
that he would...
521
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,260
sleep with her.
522
00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:58,420
And he said,
523
00:30:58,430 --> 00:31:01,230
it didn't matter anyway,
he said.
524
00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:03,720
N-Necole said that he told her
525
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,590
that th-they weren't
close cousins anyhow.
526
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:08,170
But that's bullshit.
527
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:15,470
Necole's second home
was the jailhouse.
528
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:19,470
I don't know too much about
what went on in jail.
529
00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:23,170
But they told me that Terrie
could be mean to some of 'em.
530
00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:26,350
You know, if they wouldn't do
what he wanted to do,
531
00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:29,090
he-he could pretty well--
532
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:31,340
you know, he could make 'em--
make their life miserable.
533
00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:37,260
Outside of the jail,
534
00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:38,970
Terrie Guillory was someone
535
00:31:38,970 --> 00:31:43,130
that the Jeff Davis 8
called on for help
536
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:45,340
whenever they were in a bind.
537
00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:48,800
He was a go-to person
for help because,
538
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,970
according
to south side residents,
539
00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:57,840
he would engage in kind of
trades with you.
540
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,470
If you gave Terrie
some information
541
00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:03,760
about a drug dealer,
he might let a ticket go,
542
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,340
he might let a drug charge go.
543
00:32:14,430 --> 00:32:16,020
The Jeff Davis 8,
544
00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:18,470
as women who cycled
in and out of the jail
545
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:20,590
fairly constantly--
546
00:32:20,590 --> 00:32:23,130
they were intimately aware
547
00:32:23,130 --> 00:32:27,380
of the dynamic that Terrie had
548
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:30,140
with residents
of the south side.
549
00:32:36,090 --> 00:32:37,630
If Loretta or myself
550
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,310
or anyone of the crew
551
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,300
break the law
in any kind of way,
552
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,300
be in a bar or something
and the cops will get called,
553
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:45,840
Terrie Guillory
was always on the scene
554
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,090
when it came down to...
555
00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:50,630
the-the junkies
and the prostitutes.
556
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:57,600
Terrie Guillory
was more than willing to...
557
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:59,670
to lend his hand.
558
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,140
But things didn't...
559
00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,840
they didn't get
dealt with right.
560
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,170
Not like a normal police officer
would have dealt with it.
561
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:11,350
He had a thing for Loretta,
Terrie Guillory.
562
00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:12,590
He had a-he had
a thing for Loretta.
563
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:14,880
Of course,
not too many men didn't.
564
00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:18,020
She was gorgeous,
beautiful, very intelligent,
565
00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:19,510
but very addicted to crack.
566
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,970
Loretta and Terrie
had-had to have some
567
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:27,720
kind of relationship--
I don't know.
568
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,550
I'm not gonna speculate.
569
00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:31,510
I'm not gonna guess.
570
00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:34,170
But there had to have something.
571
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:36,520
I-I don't know what, because
572
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,220
when she got--
Loretta got released
573
00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:40,130
that last time
that she was in jail
574
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:43,880
before she got killed,
Terrie Guillory brought her home
575
00:33:43,890 --> 00:33:45,980
to my house.
576
00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:49,510
Them fuckers never gave me
a ride home.
577
00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:51,510
I've been to jail
a lot of times.
578
00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:53,550
I don't care if it's
the middle of the night,
579
00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:55,970
cold as hell--
nobody offered me a ride home.
580
00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:04,140
Loretta, the relationship
581
00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:07,380
with Terrie, a lot of it
582
00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:09,060
was hearsay, you know,
583
00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:11,380
but there had been
sexual relations
584
00:34:11,390 --> 00:34:14,060
between the two
throughout the years.
585
00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:16,630
And I...
I do know that for a fact.
586
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,730
When I was probably
11, 12 years old,
587
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,670
and that would have put Loretta
at 14 or 15,
588
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,140
he picked us up
in a city police car,
589
00:34:27,130 --> 00:34:29,260
and we went to his house.
590
00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:31,220
I mean, I ended up
spending the night
591
00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:33,970
at his house one night
with her on the couch.
592
00:34:33,970 --> 00:34:36,260
I was on the couch.
593
00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:38,920
I mean, I went to sleep,
but I remember waking up
594
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:40,560
in the middle
of the night and...
595
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:43,260
she was coming back down
from his room.
596
00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:46,010
They-they had sex.
597
00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:48,130
She had told me, you know.
598
00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:50,550
Of course, what other reason
would he pick us up
599
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:52,300
and bring us to his house for,
600
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,010
you know, when we were out
after curfew?
601
00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:55,920
She was young.
602
00:34:55,930 --> 00:34:57,890
He was definitely not at the age
603
00:34:57,890 --> 00:35:01,180
that you should be sleeping
with a 14, 15-year-old.
604
00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:03,350
Yeah.
605
00:35:03,340 --> 00:35:05,090
I remember an incident.
606
00:35:05,090 --> 00:35:09,090
I was incarcerated with Loretta.
607
00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:12,970
I remember waking up in the
middle of the night and...
608
00:35:12,970 --> 00:35:15,630
and I could hear noises.
609
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,310
So I jumped down from my bunk,
610
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:21,090
and when you opened the thing,
you could see,
611
00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:23,300
you know, it was big enough
for you to see.
612
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,130
And looking through
this little hole,
613
00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:29,840
and she was in the last cell,
614
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,130
and you could see
Terrie Guillory
615
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,050
with his pants halfway down,
616
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:39,800
having intercourse
with Loretta Chaisson
617
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,090
in the last--
The door was closed,
618
00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:44,340
but he was doing it
through the thing.
619
00:35:44,340 --> 00:35:47,670
And after that,
she got whatever she wanted.
620
00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:53,630
And poor thing would cry.
She hated herself.
621
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,980
She felt since she was a little
girl that's all she was worth.
622
00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:19,920
Before everybody even knew
623
00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,890
Loretta got killed,
624
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:27,230
I got a knock on the door
and it was Terrie Guillory.
625
00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:34,170
And he says, "Hey, Barbara,"
626
00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:35,730
or whatever the heck he said.
627
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,550
And he's like,
"Have you seen Loretta?"
628
00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:42,050
And I said, "Well, no.
629
00:36:42,050 --> 00:36:44,260
Why, is something the matter?"
630
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:47,380
"No, no.
I'm just checking on her."
631
00:36:48,970 --> 00:36:50,300
"Okay."
632
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:55,170
What the hell you checking
on her for?
633
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:57,600
Little while later,
634
00:36:57,590 --> 00:37:01,630
at one of my son's
friend's house-- Donovan's--
635
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,430
Jesse Ewing, city police,
was over there,
636
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:08,270
and Donovan overheard
the call on the radio
637
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:11,380
saying they found
a female's body in the canal.
638
00:37:12,970 --> 00:37:14,840
Nick and I left my house
639
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,670
and came all the way down
640
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,270
to the highway
where the bridge was.
641
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,340
Well, after about 20
642
00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:25,630
or 30 minutes,
643
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,770
they start walking up
the embankment on the side
644
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,590
of the bridge...
645
00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:32,760
And all of a sudden,
we seen a couple
646
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,590
of heads popping up coming
from underneath the bridge,
647
00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:36,170
and they were carrying
a body bag.
648
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,770
Yeah.
649
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,170
The whole time
I'm standing there thinking
650
00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:43,270
what the fuck did
Terrie Guillory come
651
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:45,010
to my house looking
for Loretta for?
652
00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:46,470
Bam, here's a body.
653
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:48,630
Why did Terrie Guillory
know this
654
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,270
before anybody
said anything to-- you know,
655
00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:53,090
about Loretta being missing--
no one was worried.
656
00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:55,470
I mean...
657
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,510
It would hurt...
658
00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:02,720
It hurts my heart
if-if he is involved,
659
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,050
which, I mean, it's-it's hard
to point away from it.
660
00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:06,800
It's hard to say he's not.
661
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,100
Crystal babysat for Terrie.
662
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:25,590
I believed she was a babysitter.
663
00:38:27,550 --> 00:38:31,550
But I believe
there was more to it than that.
664
00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:33,670
Yes, I believe Terrie Guillory
slept with Crystal Benoit.
665
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,930
I sure do.
666
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:42,560
Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno--
667
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:45,670
victim number six--
was a latecomer
668
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,020
to the world of...
669
00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:50,340
South Jennings
sex work and drugs.
670
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,100
But she fell in right
with the other women
671
00:38:57,090 --> 00:38:59,420
in their social networks.
672
00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:02,640
In the weeks
before Crystal was killed,
673
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,140
her connections
to Frankie Richard
674
00:39:06,130 --> 00:39:08,380
and his family only deepened.
675
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:11,230
She partied
with Frankie's brother,
676
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:14,420
Billy, and the Richard home
677
00:39:14,430 --> 00:39:18,480
on McKinley Street
became a kind of
678
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:21,050
part-time residence for her.
679
00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:24,220
On the day of her murder,
Crystal walked
680
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:26,340
to the Phillips 66 gas station,
681
00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:30,010
and made a phone call
to Terrie Guillory.
682
00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:32,220
It is unclear
683
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:34,880
what the content
of that call is.
684
00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:38,310
Numerous witnesses have said
685
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:42,050
that soon after Crystal made
the call to Terrie,
686
00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:43,880
she got into a white truck
687
00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:47,100
with a group of men
connected to Frankie Richard,
688
00:39:47,090 --> 00:39:50,670
who were known as
Frankie Richard's hands-on men.
689
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:55,270
"Hands-on men" means
690
00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:57,260
pretty much what it implies,
691
00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:59,420
meaning that these are the men
692
00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:02,430
who will actually harm people.
693
00:40:02,430 --> 00:40:06,350
They will have their hands
on a victim.
694
00:40:06,340 --> 00:40:09,760
That is the last time
that she was likely seen alive.
695
00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:13,920
Two weeks later, Crystal's body
696
00:40:13,930 --> 00:40:16,640
was found by hunters
697
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,020
in a wooded area
off of Lacour Road.
698
00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:23,220
And her body
was heavily decomposed.
699
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:28,140
I was informed
by Crystal's family
700
00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:32,550
that Terrie Guillory showed up
to the Benoit family home
701
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:35,970
and said that "Crystal is dead,
702
00:40:35,970 --> 00:40:37,720
but I didn't kill her."
703
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,470
That was, apparently,
an unprompted remark.
704
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:44,260
Nobody asked Terrie,
"Did you kill Crystal?"
705
00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:47,300
Nobody accused Terrie
of killing Crystal.
706
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,630
It seemingly
didn't come up at all.
707
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,020
Terrie simply said,
"I didn't kill Crystal."
708
00:40:59,470 --> 00:41:01,300
When I got wind of all this,
709
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,720
I called Terrie Guillory.
710
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,470
Terrie Guillory said that
he seen one of the tattoos
711
00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:07,510
on her back,
that he knew it was her.
712
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:09,010
From the conditions I heard
they found her body in
713
00:41:09,010 --> 00:41:10,670
after they found her,
714
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,060
there was no way
he-he could have saw a tattoo.
715
00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:17,220
There was nothing there.
716
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:20,880
The hunters didn't even know
it was a body
717
00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:23,430
until they seen the skull.
718
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,350
They thought it was
a dead coyote.
719
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480
Just like almost all of
720
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:32,800
these other cases,
there was not a lot
721
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,800
of physical evidence,
but there was
722
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,010
one witness
723
00:41:38,010 --> 00:41:40,300
that came forward.
724
00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:43,340
Russell Carrier
725
00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:46,170
was a southwest
Louisiana resident.
726
00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:50,730
His sister, Barb Ann,
was a kind of motherly figure
727
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,010
to many of the Jeff Davis 8.
728
00:41:54,010 --> 00:41:58,510
Right around the time
that Crystal was murdered,
729
00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:01,380
Russell was out
in the Lacour Road area.
730
00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:04,270
He was addicted
to crack cocaine,
731
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,420
and he would go into
the very dense and wooded
732
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:09,730
and rural area
around Lacour Road
733
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,170
to do drugs.
734
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:14,310
My brother was riding
735
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:17,050
on the back road,
smoking crack,
736
00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:19,720
when he came upon
three black guys
737
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,300
exiting the wooded area where
738
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,720
Crystal's body was found.
739
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,720
The three men that
740
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,090
Russell said he observed
741
00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:30,760
leaving the wooded area
742
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,220
where Crystal's body
had been dumped were
743
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:36,720
Frankie Richard's hands-on men.
744
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:45,630
Russell Carrier
knew these men directly
745
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,430
from the drug world
in South Jennings.
746
00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:52,600
He then told his family
about this,
747
00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:56,800
and he, according to
his family, reported
748
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,090
seeing these three men
coming out of the woods,
749
00:43:00,090 --> 00:43:02,170
where Crystal's body
had been dumped,
750
00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:05,140
to the Jeff Davis Parish
D.A.'s office.
751
00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:06,760
We received information that
752
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,590
Mr. Carrier had information.
753
00:43:08,590 --> 00:43:11,760
Now, I can't get into, you know,
how much of that was verified
754
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,670
in what-what we had.
755
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560
I know what was-was received,
and what was used
756
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,420
through the investigation.
757
00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:20,770
I can't-- I don't know what else
might have been out there
758
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,470
that somebody said
or didn't say.
759
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:25,380
October 10,
760
00:43:25,390 --> 00:43:28,480
2010, my brother came
banging on the door.
761
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:30,220
He said,
"You need to come with me,
762
00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:32,470
and you need
to come with me now."
763
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:34,300
They found Uncle Russell dead.
764
00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:40,630
Russell was struck by a train
765
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,230
in Jennings.
766
00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:44,470
The family was told
767
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:47,630
that Russell simply laid down
768
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,640
for an unknown reason,
and was struck
769
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,480
by this train.
-His death
770
00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:55,630
has not been ruled a homicide.
771
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,850
I don't have any information
that he was killed
772
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,510
by an individual.
773
00:44:02,510 --> 00:44:04,090
The-the police report
information
774
00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:06,010
that-that had part of our
investigation is that
775
00:44:06,010 --> 00:44:07,720
he was struck by a train
776
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,170
while laying on
the railroad tracks.
777
00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:15,090
The police said
Russell committed suicide.
778
00:44:15,090 --> 00:44:17,050
Fuck the police.
779
00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:20,010
That was not in him.
780
00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:23,010
My brother Russell did not
lay down on the railroad track
781
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:24,340
and let a fucking train
run over him.
782
00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:31,260
Someone beat my brother to
death and put him on the tracks
783
00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:33,010
for the train to run over him
784
00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:36,920
to hide what truly happened.
785
00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:39,480
The cops, when I talked
to them years later--
786
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:41,720
the case is still open--
787
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,630
they're full of fucking shit.
788
00:44:58,050 --> 00:45:00,590
After Crystal's homicide,
789
00:45:00,590 --> 00:45:01,880
there were now
790
00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:03,600
six victims
791
00:45:03,590 --> 00:45:07,130
with deep connections
to Frankie Richard.
792
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,550
And many of them
with Terrie Guillory.
793
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:16,380
The fact that the names
794
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:19,350
of Terrie Guillory
and Frankie Richard
795
00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:22,670
hover around these cases
796
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,890
complicates...
797
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:28,930
this sprawling and still open
murder case.
798
00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:31,770
In 2009,
799
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,760
a number of people
claimed to have observed,
800
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,510
firsthand, Terrie Guillory
and his ex-wife,
801
00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:40,420
Paula,
802
00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:44,270
socializing with Frankie
803
00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:47,840
at the Richard family home
on McKinley Street.
804
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,260
I'd been
knowing Terrie Guillory
805
00:45:52,260 --> 00:45:54,380
all his life.
806
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:57,270
I always felt like
807
00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:59,420
he was somewhat...
808
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,340
...a friend.
809
00:46:03,340 --> 00:46:06,880
Not the type of friend
810
00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:09,140
that I would go...
811
00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:14,020
...beat somebody up with,
812
00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:18,010
or go rob somebody with.
813
00:46:18,010 --> 00:46:21,970
But anytime Terry Guillory
814
00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:25,800
came to our house,
815
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,550
where I was,
816
00:46:29,550 --> 00:46:33,670
it was to conduct
police business.
817
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,930
I've caught Paula's car
818
00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:38,730
over there numerous times
during the day,
819
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,130
at Frankie Richard's
mom's house.
820
00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:43,260
What'd she be
over there for period,
821
00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:45,590
unless he's working for you?
822
00:46:45,590 --> 00:46:47,720
Or he's working
for your husband.
823
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,720
Or you're buying coke.
What you doing?
824
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,090
There's no reason
for you to be over there.
825
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,840
Was Terrie Guillory ever
826
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,010
in-involved in the drugs
or prostitution trade,
827
00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:18,670
to your knowledge?
828
00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:23,090
I do know that, yeah.
829
00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:29,340
He brought you
into law enforcement?
830
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:32,420
The formation
831
00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:34,390
of this group today will allow
832
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:37,100
eight to ten people
to work full-time
833
00:47:37,090 --> 00:47:39,510
and exclusively to these cases.
834
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:42,010
We will continue
to search for leads,
835
00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:45,050
utilizing every resource
that is available to us.
836
00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:47,720
When the task force
837
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,760
was created,
838
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,510
there was an initial burst
of optimism.
839
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:57,970
But the hope that
the alleged relationships
840
00:47:57,970 --> 00:48:00,340
that Terrie Guillory had
with Frankie Richard
841
00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:02,800
and the women
of the Jeff Davis 8
842
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,380
would be investigated deeply
were dashed when
843
00:48:07,390 --> 00:48:11,100
Terrie's ex-wife,
Paula Guillory,
844
00:48:11,090 --> 00:48:13,090
landed a prominent place
845
00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:16,010
on the task force.
846
00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:17,670
There were eight dead women,
847
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,930
no justice
for any of those women.
848
00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:23,310
And investigations
into Frankie unraveling
849
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,590
due to law enforcement
misconduct.
850
00:48:26,590 --> 00:48:28,630
It forces you to ask,
851
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,730
what was Frankie's relationship
852
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,050
with law enforcement?
853
00:48:35,470 --> 00:48:37,630
Two witnesses
who went to the task force
854
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,230
with information
about Frankie Richard,
855
00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:43,380
and with information about
the Jeff Davis 8 homicides,
856
00:48:43,390 --> 00:48:45,930
came away from that meeting
and said they were told
857
00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:47,640
by the task force,
858
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,430
"Don't worry
about Frankie Richard.
859
00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:55,970
Frankie Richard works for us."
63773
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