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The girls,
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I cared for
every last one of them.
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You know, they call me Mom
at my house.
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They would say,
"It's safe in here.
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No dick-sucking, no pimping,
no streetwalking.
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It's so good just to be
at peace, and all alone."
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And then they would leave off
for about two or three days.
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When they would leave,
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their hair would be nice,
they would be dressed nice.
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Go off to the motels
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to hustle up more drugs.
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They were all young girls.
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Very green. They didn't know
what they were doing.
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They thought it was just,
like, a big hustle.
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They would find guys
with the drugs,
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they'd smoke up their drugs,
then go to the next guy.
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It'd be on like that
until they'd just get worn out.
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Three days later,
coming back all tired
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and-and look like
a totally different person.
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After hearing
all of the killings,
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I said,
"What's really going on?
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Why those girls?"
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Why not the girl that was
the good girl that was walking
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down the street
or through the park?
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Why them?
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We're on East Racca Road
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on the outskirts of Jennings.
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This is the part of town
where you go to do drugs.
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Folks would say, when
they talked about a loved one
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who was out running around doing
drugs, they would say, you know,
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"Crystal's out
running the roads,"
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or "Frankie's out
running the roads."
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And when they said that,
this is exactly
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what they were talking about.
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This is territory
that really only you'd know
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if you were in that scene.
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On the left here is the spot
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where Frankie's trailer
used to be.
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Frankie had this trailer
at the height of the homicides
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in the 2007 period.
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He'd come out here with women,
including some of the victims,
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party and do drugs.
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During the 2000s,
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when you were hanging out
with Loretta, Kristen,
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all these girls,
what drugs were you on?
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Every fucking thing I could
put in my hand, you know?
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I was doing pills,
I was doing crack,
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I was doing powder,
I was doing speed.
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And through all those years,
you were dealing as well, right?
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Yes.
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These were women
that had drug addictions
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and didn't care if they had
to have sex for their drugs.
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They had sex so they didn't have
to pay for the drug.
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It was crack.
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Everybody was on crack.
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Everybody smoking crack,
everybody smoking dope.
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I mean, that's...
it-it was coming and going.
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That's all it was about,
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sex and drugs.
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These girls was always high.
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Every week, not just on
the weekends, you know.
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When you get paid, you party.
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Only time I would get a lot
of drugs is when I get paid.
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I'd go buy me $300 worth
of drugs, you know.
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This was everyday,
all-day drugging.
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Where were they getting
all this drugs from?
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Who was giving these drugs out?
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Jennings sits
almost directly on I-10,
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and I-10 is a potent conduit,
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a kind of artery of vice,
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bringing enormous amounts
of drugs
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from Houston to New Orleans
on a daily basis.
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Literally, if you,
if you were to draw a line
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between Houston and New Orleans,
Jennings is the...
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right in the middle of that.
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It just leaves Jennings
in a really vulnerable position.
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I didn't know that Jennings
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had any sort of reputation
one way or the other
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before I got there.
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But everybody seemed
to understand
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and talk about, almost eagerly,
about how much drug traffic
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went back and forth
and stopped at Jennings.
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Small towns by the interstate,
you know,
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it's like an old port town.
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It's just, it's convenient.
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When drug busts are made
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on I-10 in the Jeff Davis
Parish area,
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we're talking kilos
upon kilos of cocaine
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or multiple pounds of marijuana
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or thousands of pills.
Drug seizures
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that would be...
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sort of at home in a huge city
like Los Angeles or New York
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is in a town of 10,000 people.
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This town,
especially this side,
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is infested with fucking drugs.
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Like, like, serious.
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Meth, heroin,
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marijuana, pills.
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You name it, you got it.
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You can get it
from 13-year-old kids.
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Truly.
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The enormous amounts
of drugs flowing
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through Jeff Davis Parish
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have an incredibly
corrupting influence
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on law enforcement.
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The temptation to take a piece
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of a drug seizure is enormous.
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All of this is cocaine.
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It's what officers found on
one man during a traffic stop.
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That amount of cocaine
could value anywhere
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from three million
to $18 million dollars.
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You talk to people
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and they say,
"Sure, you see on the news
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the seizure of enormous amounts
of drugs,"
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but what they say is, "The
drugs that you see on the table
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don't stay on the table."
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Quite a bit of that goes
right back out onto the street.
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People talk about, you know,
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law enforcement involvement
in the drug trade.
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Just because
there's a-a drug problem
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doesn't mean that law
enforcement is involved.
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I don't recall anybody
that's ever been arrested
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or-or looked into
for being a drug dealer
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that's in law enforcement.
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Can't say that it never happens;
it does.
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The chief of police
during the Jeff Davis 8 era,
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Johnny Lassiter,
was later indicted
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for pilfering the evidence room
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for drugs,
cash and other items.
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The cops arrest
somebody, and if it's not
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nothing that they're gonna
get caught for,
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I believe they'll get
put back on the street.
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More dope comes from them
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than it pr-pretty much does
from the dudes on the streets.
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Real talk.
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People talk.
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They want you
to sell drugs for them.
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You don't sell drugs for them,
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they're gonna try to
fuck you over any way they can.
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If you not working for them,
you working with them.
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I mean, they've had... they
don't have a good track record.
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The corruption goes back
years ago.
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He's pulling you over?
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Yeah, he's pulling me over.
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You are watching
an actual traffic stop
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along Interstate 10
in Louisiana.
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How you doing, sir?
-How you doing?
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Step out of your vehicle.
Step back here for me, please?
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But what this officer
doesn't realize
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is that the car is rigged
with Dateline's hidden cameras,
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and so is the driver.
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In 1997,
NBC's Dateline came to town
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and did an expos�
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of the Jeff Davis Parish
Sheriff's Department.
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Up and down I-10,
our cameras recorded
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out-of-state motorists pulled
off to the side of the road
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and detained.
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Dateline had been receiving
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an enormous amount
of tips and complaints,
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where people are saying, "I'm
driving on this section of I-10.
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I'm getting pulled over
and literally robbed
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by the sheriff's office."
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What's going on here began
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as what many thought
was a good idea
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to help win the drug war.
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Police across the country
were given a new weapon.
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It's called asset forfeiture.
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When Ricky Edwards
takes office,
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there is a big increase
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in civil asset forfeiture
on I-10.
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Civil asset forfeiture
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allows law enforcement
to take assets
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of people who are suspected of,
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but not convicted of, a crime.
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That in itself opens up
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enormous avenues of abuse.
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The Dateline team used
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a bait car that's set up
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to not go
above 65 miles per hour.
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They send this car down I-10
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through Jeff Davis Parish,
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and almost instantaneously
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the vehicle is pulled over.
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They would just invent reasons
to stop people.
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That's illegal.
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Ricky Edwards is the sheriff
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-of Jefferson Davis Parish.
-Would it surprise you
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to know that your deputies
pulled us over?
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No, it wouldn't surprise me.
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I-I don't know, I wasn't there.
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If he said you were speeding,
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I would have to assume
that you were speeding.
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Edwards's response is,
essentially:
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That's not
what's happening there.
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There's financial incentive
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for the officers
to pull these people over
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and take away money and cars.
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There's financial incentive
in the war on drugs, yes.
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Doesn't that seem odd?
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No.
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The Dateline NBC episode
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gets over 12 million viewers.
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Louisiana state officials
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find themselves having
to respond to the episode
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and do damage control.
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A Dateline report that
touched close to home tonight
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and raised some questions.
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Are the stories true?
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But Ricky...
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does not give an inch.
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Okay, Sheriff, you had
a chance to review
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the Dateline piece tonight.
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What's your take on it?
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Do you think that
they were accurate?
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I think that they've showed
the negative side to everything.
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I don't think that they've shown
a positive side to anything.
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The parish's response
to the Dateline piece was
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to kind of rally back around
the department, just kind of...
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Their feeling was that we were
just kind of unfairly...
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hit by it.
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It's remarkable.
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It did nothing
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to change the power structure
in Jeff Davis Parish.
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Ricky Edwards remained in power
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for years later.
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And I think...
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that response has
very profound echoes
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in how they responded
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to the Jeff Davis 8 case.
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Ricky, it's been
four years and five months
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since Loretta Chaisson died.
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Describe the progress
that has been made.
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Well, unfortunately,
I'm not going to get into
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the investigative part of it.
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But progress has been made
by utilizing tons of resources
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made available to a small
department like ours.
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We don't have an answer yet,
and, w-we will continue
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to work for the resolution
of these homicides.
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Let's talk about Ricky a second.
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Ricky...
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...to me, he wasn't no kind
of sheriff at all, I'm sorry.
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He didn't do anything.
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This town is so corrupt
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that it doesn't make any sense.
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You want to get away
with something?
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Go to Jennings.
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I'm just gonna call it
for what it is.
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Crooked.
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Jennings is...
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the Wild, Wild West.
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These motherfuckers...
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...want their cut.
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I don't give a goddamn
if it's...
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a parking meter
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or a hamburger joint.
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They want their cut.
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What was Jennings like
when you came back here
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in 2002, 2003 or so?
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What do you mean by that?
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I mean...
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Let's talk about your history
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as a drug dealer in the area.
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What you want to know?
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What was your relationship
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with the police
during those years?
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My relationship with the police
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in them years...
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...is about the same as it is
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with the police today.
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Not worth a fuck.
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I didn't trust them,
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I didn't like 'em,
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and I goddamn sure
wasn't gonna give them
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some of my money
that I fucking worked for.
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I had a habit to support,
you know?
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I wasn't making
enough fucking money
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to support their habit, too.
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Frankie has
this enormous rap sheet.
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Things that he's
been charged with
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and has walked away from.
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The biggest question
that hangs over Frankie is:
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how has he been able to skirt
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so many allegations
against him?
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In our research on Frankie,
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we've determined that
in Jeff Davis Parish alone,
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he has been
arrested 23 times
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with zero convictions.
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As law enforcement,
our job is to investigate crimes
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and arr...
make arrests when warranted,
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and then we submit information
to the D.A.'s office.
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If somebody has multiple arrests
and no convictions, then...
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that'd be a question
for the D.A.'s office.
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But it's a... that's
a large number of arrests,
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obviously.
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I've always heard that
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Frankie works
for the damn cops.
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Do I believe it? Yeah.
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Because he got out
of a lot of trouble.
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I mean, and especially
with these murders.
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We know for a fact
that Frankie has
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cooperated numerous times
with the task force.
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There's a relationship there
in the recordings that you hear
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with his interviews
with the task force
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where it's very buddy-buddy.
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It really poses the question
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of what is
the exact relationship
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between Frankie
and the task force?
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In 2009,
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the sheriff's office
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had learned
of an alleged theft ring
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in town.
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Homes were being broken into.
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Weapons were being stolen.
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And those weapons
were then being moved
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to Chad's Pawn Shop
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and pawned off there.
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There was a raid
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on Frankie's mother's home.
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Coins, weapons,
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cash and other items
were taken.
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Frankie and his mother
were arrested.
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There seemed to be
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strong evidence against Frankie.
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And very quickly
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evidence began to disappear.
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An internal investigation
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was initiated,
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and the result
of the investigation was that
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Paula Guillory,
the ex-wife of Terrie Guillory
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and a core member of
the task force at that point,
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had mishandled the evidence.
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And Paula Guillory
was terminated
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from the Jeff Davis Parish
Sheriff's Office.
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Were you ever given a chance
to give your side
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or your account
of what happened?
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What is your account
of what happened
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to the approximately $4,000
that went missing?
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Okay.
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So, you were
in the evidence room.
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Who was the evidence
custodian at the time?
341
00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:14,740
Gary?
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After the evidence
went missing,
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the charges against Frankie
and his mom disappeared.
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This was part of a pattern
of cases where
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there seemed to be
strong evidence against Frankie
346
00:20:36,530 --> 00:20:39,530
and suddenly that evidence
was no longer there.
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By that point,
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there were seven bodies.
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And there was
about to be eight.
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When Necole Guillory's body
was found
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just off I-10,
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the fact that it had come
so closely after
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00:20:59,610 --> 00:21:03,900
a case against Frankie
fell apart again
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created a wave of anger.
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00:21:06,730 --> 00:21:10,100
All of the fears,
skepticism and cynicism
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surrounding law enforcement
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all came to fore at once.
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What do you make of the fact
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that things happen to cases
that involve Frankie Richard
360
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that lead to those cases
falling apart
361
00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:34,390
and ultimately lead to him
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00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,280
just sitting
on his front porch right now
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00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,150
in South Jennings
as a free man?
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That's my question, yeah.
365
00:22:00,070 --> 00:22:01,320
You know,
as I mentioned earlier,
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there were task force witnesses
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talking about your ex-husband
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00:22:05,690 --> 00:22:08,150
being involved in prostitution
at the parish jail
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00:22:08,150 --> 00:22:09,570
and things like that.
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00:22:30,530 --> 00:22:32,570
Terrie Guillory
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00:22:32,570 --> 00:22:34,070
comes up repeatedly
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00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:36,190
in interviews with witnesses
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and family members alike.
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00:22:38,610 --> 00:22:42,400
We know he had deep
relationships with these women
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that were often sexual
in nature.
376
00:22:45,610 --> 00:22:48,940
In the case
of Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno,
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00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:51,190
Terrie was aware
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00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:55,440
of tattoos in personal areas
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that only someone intimate
with Crystal
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would have known.
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00:23:00,570 --> 00:23:02,570
Loretta Chaisson told me
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00:23:02,570 --> 00:23:05,740
she had an affair
with Terrie Guillory.
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00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:09,480
I don't know how old she was,
but she said she was young.
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He would come and pick her up
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00:23:12,650 --> 00:23:16,530
and have sex with her
and drop her off.
386
00:23:16,530 --> 00:23:20,570
We know
a witness told the task force
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00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:25,110
that Terrie Guillory
was having sex with Loretta
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in a jail cell
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00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:30,360
just weeks
before she was murdered.
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00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:33,150
She knew things about Terrie
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00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:36,440
that nobody else knew
but her and Terrie.
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00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,570
I learned
that Terrie also used most
393
00:23:42,570 --> 00:23:46,780
if not all of the women
of the Jeff Davis 8
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00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:48,820
as informants.
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00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:53,610
I always felt
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00:23:53,610 --> 00:23:56,070
that the girls
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00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:58,780
would inform the law
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about one thing or another
399
00:24:02,570 --> 00:24:05,570
to either get their ass
out of a bind
400
00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:07,990
right then and there
401
00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:11,060
or for future references.
402
00:24:19,650 --> 00:24:21,820
A place like Jennings,
403
00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:25,490
where there's so much drugs
and drug use,
404
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,890
has a thriving
informant culture.
405
00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:35,490
This is
a very informal relationship
406
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,230
with law enforcement where
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00:24:39,230 --> 00:24:41,480
you may be a drug user yourself,
408
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,180
but you provide information
409
00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:47,690
to the police
in exchange for something.
410
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:51,690
In exchange
for the dropping of charges.
411
00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:56,240
Often in exchange
for being permitted
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00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:58,680
to engage in criminal activity.
413
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,360
The informant culture
in a small town like Jennings
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00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,400
creates this sense
415
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,150
of a kind of limitless tentacle
416
00:25:10,150 --> 00:25:12,030
of the police state.
417
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,240
I was a confidential informant.
418
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,070
I was a confidential informant
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00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:21,610
for Danny Semmes,
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00:25:21,610 --> 00:25:24,440
who was the detective
at the time.
421
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,740
I got in trouble
selling an ounce of weed.
422
00:25:27,730 --> 00:25:28,930
Danny gave me a choice.
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00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:31,650
Either I do
what he wants me to do,
424
00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:34,070
or he's gonna call welfare
and have my kids picked up.
425
00:25:35,690 --> 00:25:39,070
He wanted me to bust
a few people in town.
426
00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:40,570
And I did it.
427
00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:42,690
I busted six people for him.
428
00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:45,860
Then, when I seen just how much
trouble I could get in,
429
00:25:45,860 --> 00:25:48,690
I got out of it.
430
00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:50,280
'Cause I got scared.
431
00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:55,740
It's very dangerous.
432
00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:58,230
Drug dealers don't want you
on the streets
433
00:25:58,230 --> 00:26:01,350
if you informing the law
what they doing.
434
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,280
All it takes is one person
435
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,150
to say one mistake about you.
436
00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:11,530
You having anything to do
with the law enforcement.
437
00:26:11,530 --> 00:26:12,990
You gonna get jumped.
438
00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:15,180
You gonna probably get beat
half to death
439
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:17,150
or you're gonna die.
440
00:26:20,030 --> 00:26:22,530
Family members and friends
441
00:26:22,530 --> 00:26:25,440
told me that the women
of the Jeff Davis 8
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00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,240
would provide a steady flow
of information to the police.
443
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,110
As informants,
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00:26:38,110 --> 00:26:40,400
the women were squeezed
445
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,940
between law enforcement
446
00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:47,900
and the most dangerous people
in South Jennings.
447
00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:55,820
The last time
448
00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:57,820
that I saw Loretta alive
was on Mother's Day,
449
00:26:57,820 --> 00:27:00,530
and we had a gathering
at my-my aunt's house.
450
00:27:00,530 --> 00:27:03,940
And Loretta had just gotten out
of jail after a month,
451
00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:07,860
month and a half, maybe two,
something like that.
452
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:09,900
My aunt asked her why she
had gotten out of jail so early,
453
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:11,990
when she was supposed
to be in there for about a year.
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00:27:11,980 --> 00:27:14,310
She said, "Well, I'm not
supposed to tell anyone."
455
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,990
She says,
"But I'm-I'm gonna be a witness
456
00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:18,810
against a drug dealer."
457
00:27:18,820 --> 00:27:20,990
So they let her
out of jail, and...
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00:27:20,980 --> 00:27:25,100
she made it for, like, two,
three weeks and then she died.
459
00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:28,480
When Crystal went missing,
460
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,680
I called Terrie Guillory,
461
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:33,530
and I told him
Crystal was dealing drugs
462
00:27:33,530 --> 00:27:35,860
for a-a drug dealer
in Jennings.
463
00:27:35,860 --> 00:27:37,610
He said
he had already knew that,
464
00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,190
that Crystal had done told him
what she was doing.
465
00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:43,690
Why would Crystal tell Terrie
what she was doing
466
00:27:43,690 --> 00:27:48,240
for this certain person
if she wasn't his informant?
467
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,820
Terrie told me
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00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:53,860
that he had picked Crystal up
in Lake Arthur,
469
00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:55,530
and he said
he dropped her off in town.
470
00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:56,690
And I s... I was like, "Terrie,
471
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:59,570
you dropped her off
on that side of town,
472
00:27:59,570 --> 00:28:02,530
and, you know, you're a cop.
473
00:28:02,530 --> 00:28:03,690
You know, that's not cool."
474
00:28:03,690 --> 00:28:05,400
And he was like,
"Well, it was all right.
475
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,740
Nobody was around."
476
00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:08,600
But, still, somebody's lurking.
477
00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:10,440
Somebody sees something.
478
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,650
It takes just one person to see
you get out of a cop car.
479
00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:15,110
Then it's all over town
that you're narcing.
480
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,030
But the cops put 'em out there.
481
00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:23,820
When they're done with 'em
and they get what they want,
482
00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:27,360
they throw 'em out there
in the streets like... animals.
483
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,190
You know?
"We don't need you no more.
484
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:32,570
We're done." They-they can do
whatever they want to you.
485
00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:44,730
Years before
486
00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:47,810
the Jeff Davis 8 murders
began happening,
487
00:28:47,820 --> 00:28:49,820
there are other examples
488
00:28:49,820 --> 00:28:53,360
of informant murders
in Jeff Davis Parish.
489
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,360
My mother's name
was Sheila Comeaux.
490
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,940
On February 14th of 1998,
491
00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:05,940
she was found
in an abandoned building
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00:29:05,940 --> 00:29:10,110
down South Main Street
in Jennings.
493
00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:13,690
She was found by a man
that lived behind the building,
494
00:29:13,690 --> 00:29:18,030
and she was beaten brutally.
495
00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:23,850
Sheila Comeaux is kin
496
00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:26,610
to both Jessica Kratzer
497
00:29:26,610 --> 00:29:28,940
and Barb Ann Deshotel.
498
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:32,240
I refer to her
as my sister-in-law.
499
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:35,100
And her kids are my nieces
and nephews.
500
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:36,990
Sheila's kids.
501
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:38,770
I believe very strongly
502
00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:40,610
that my mom's death
is connected
503
00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:43,820
to the disappearances
and deaths of these women.
504
00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:45,650
The cases are so related.
505
00:29:45,650 --> 00:29:48,030
They lived the same...
she lived the same lifestyle
506
00:29:48,030 --> 00:29:50,820
as these other women
and these young women,
507
00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:52,280
you know, these young girls.
508
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,650
It's very much related.
509
00:29:54,650 --> 00:29:58,110
It should be investigated
right alongside...
510
00:29:58,110 --> 00:29:59,990
the rest of 'em.
511
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Comeaux was out
512
00:30:03,690 --> 00:30:06,740
by Fondel's Funeral Home
in Jennings
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00:30:06,730 --> 00:30:08,810
making a drug buy
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00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:12,990
when it went bad somehow.
515
00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:16,020
She had been beaten,
516
00:30:16,030 --> 00:30:18,490
hit with something,
beat with something.
517
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,020
And from what I'm understanding,
518
00:30:20,030 --> 00:30:22,990
the only thing
that kept her alive at the time
519
00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:27,310
is because it was so cold
that it clotted her blood
520
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,530
and it stopped her
from bleeding to death.
521
00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:32,400
She had to wear this...
522
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,900
helmet thing on her head
523
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,190
'cause her hea...
her head was dented in.
524
00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:42,940
Before she succumbed
to her injuries,
525
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:47,820
Comeaux was hospitalized
for about one year.
526
00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:49,860
Every time she would
527
00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:51,530
start talking
about what happened,
528
00:30:51,530 --> 00:30:54,110
they would call the police
to come in
529
00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:56,030
so that they could question her
about it.
530
00:30:56,030 --> 00:30:57,940
And every time
that the detective
531
00:30:57,940 --> 00:30:59,820
that was working her case
showed up,
532
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:01,780
she would stop talking.
533
00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:03,860
She-she wouldn't say
anything else.
534
00:31:03,860 --> 00:31:05,900
Was she afraid?
535
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,110
No, I-I do believe
she was afraid.
536
00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:10,860
Are people that scared
of the authorities here?
537
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:13,900
I believe
that some of 'em are.
538
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:17,360
Why? What-what
do they hold over them?
539
00:31:18,860 --> 00:31:21,240
I'm not gonna answer that.
540
00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:22,890
That's okay. That's okay.
-I'm-I'm sorry. That's...
541
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:26,280
That's okay. That's okay.
542
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,890
Her family insists
543
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,070
that Sheila Comeaux
was an informant
544
00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:36,320
and that she was wired up
for this drug buy
545
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,190
by the Jennings Police.
546
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:42,230
The thing with Sheila
547
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:44,890
goes back to the police.
548
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:47,110
Now, the rumor is
that she was an informant.
549
00:31:48,190 --> 00:31:49,400
First, she turned informant.
550
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,650
Then, when...
then, when she doesn't...
551
00:31:50,650 --> 00:31:52,150
didn't want to...
552
00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:55,650
tell or whatever anymore
is when
553
00:31:55,650 --> 00:31:57,110
this happens.
554
00:32:45,150 --> 00:32:48,490
The informant culture
in a small town like Jennings
555
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,430
left the women
of the Jeff Davis 8 vulnerable.
556
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,980
As drug users,
557
00:32:56,980 --> 00:32:59,310
they were vulnerable
to arrests,
558
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,150
constantly.
559
00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:07,610
They were in and out
of the jail regularly.
560
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:11,650
Terrie Guillory had
enormous power over them
561
00:33:11,650 --> 00:33:13,530
in the jail.
562
00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:17,320
They would engage in all sorts
563
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,940
of informal deals with Terrie
564
00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:22,570
to get out of trouble.
565
00:33:23,860 --> 00:33:25,860
Outside of the jail as well,
566
00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:28,900
he was a go-to man
567
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:31,110
if they needed help
of any kind.
568
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:37,860
To be a part of this
very informal relationship
569
00:33:37,860 --> 00:33:40,360
with law enforcement,
570
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,690
it's an incredibly precarious
place to be.
571
00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:50,190
My boyfriend Steve,
572
00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:52,820
him and Terrie
was always together
573
00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:55,070
at the bars
when they would go out.
574
00:33:55,070 --> 00:33:57,570
And Terrie would do
575
00:33:57,570 --> 00:33:58,530
favors for Steve.
576
00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:01,280
Like, Steve would
get in trouble.
577
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,490
Say he'd got a DUI.
578
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,890
Got locked up in the parish.
579
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:08,650
Next day, he was out.
580
00:34:08,650 --> 00:34:11,110
I don't know anybody
that goes to jail for a DWI
581
00:34:11,110 --> 00:34:12,990
and gets out the next day,
582
00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:17,230
unless you're an informant
and you're helping the police.
583
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:22,150
Steve would set up busts
for Terrie,
584
00:34:22,150 --> 00:34:23,900
'cause that's what Steve
would help him with.
585
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:28,990
My brother Steven
586
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:31,600
was happy-go-lucky,
587
00:34:31,610 --> 00:34:33,990
fun.
588
00:34:33,980 --> 00:34:37,430
But he liked to party and drink.
589
00:34:40,820 --> 00:34:43,030
It was Saturday.
590
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:46,030
I was at my brother-in-law's.
591
00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:48,690
And when my husband and I
592
00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:51,490
got back in the car
to come home,
593
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,270
I checked my phone,
and I had, like,
594
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,820
20 missed calls
595
00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:58,570
from our son Johnnie.
596
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,740
So I called Johnnie, and...
597
00:35:03,730 --> 00:35:05,350
Johnnie said,
598
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,860
"Steven's dead."
599
00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:12,570
Deputy Guillory, if you will,
600
00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:15,280
just identify yourself
by name and position, please.
601
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,150
Terrie Guillory. I'm a warden
at Jeff Davis Parish Jail.
602
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:19,440
Okay.
603
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,610
And I just need you to explain
604
00:35:21,610 --> 00:35:24,070
how you were notified
of the incident
605
00:35:24,070 --> 00:35:25,650
which occurred in Lake Arthur.
606
00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:28,440
I got a phone call
607
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,820
from Detective Chad Romero.
608
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:31,990
He advised me that,
609
00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:34,140
Steven Gunter had pointed
a weapon
610
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:36,150
at a police officer
in Lake Arthur.
611
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:39,860
Told him I'd meet him
in Lake Arthur.
612
00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:44,030
On June 9, 2007,
613
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:46,490
Steven Gunter and his partner,
614
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,350
Lorritta LaCoste,
had been arguing.
615
00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:55,360
Lorritta was worried
about Steven's drinking.
616
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,530
They had been arguing
the day before.
617
00:35:58,530 --> 00:36:03,360
And the argument had kind of
stretched into the next day.
618
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,030
The argument spilled out
into the street,
619
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:11,190
and the police were called.
620
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:15,820
The Lake Arthur Police
was first on the scene.
621
00:36:15,820 --> 00:36:17,570
When they arrived,
622
00:36:17,570 --> 00:36:22,190
both Gunter and LaCoste said,
623
00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:23,940
"Everything's okay.
624
00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:25,820
We don't need any help."
625
00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:27,530
Steve told 'em,
"I don't want to talk to you.
626
00:36:27,530 --> 00:36:30,110
Nothing happened.
Nobody's pressing charges.
627
00:36:30,110 --> 00:36:31,780
Get out my house."
628
00:36:31,780 --> 00:36:34,240
And he shut the door
and he locked the door back.
629
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:37,560
Somehow the incident
kept escalating.
630
00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:42,400
More and more police officers
were called to the scene.
631
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,990
Terrie Guillory
632
00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:45,890
was called to the scene.
633
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,990
Terrie really takes control
of the scene,
634
00:36:56,980 --> 00:37:01,270
even though he has
no background in negotiating
635
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,400
with someone
in mental health distress
636
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440
or negotiating
with someone who is armed.
637
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,780
I knew
his girlfriend who was there.
638
00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:14,490
She was telling us that he had
a twent... .22 rifle.
639
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,520
They asked me if there was
a gun in the house.
640
00:37:17,530 --> 00:37:22,440
I said yes, but his gun was
nowhere where he could find it,
641
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,440
'cause I hid it
when he was gone.
642
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,530
I was told
that if I didn't get away,
643
00:37:29,530 --> 00:37:31,070
that I was going to jail.
644
00:37:31,070 --> 00:37:34,440
So I walked to my backyard.
645
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,280
At this point
he was in the house alone.
646
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,440
And Steve refused
to come out the house.
647
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,280
He just kept saying,
"Y'all-y'all go.
648
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,990
Y'all leave, y'all leave."
Or "go home."
649
00:37:43,980 --> 00:37:45,730
That's what he kept saying.
650
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:48,100
Steven is begging
the officers,
651
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:49,690
including Terrie,
652
00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:51,150
to leave him alone.
653
00:37:51,150 --> 00:37:53,650
He just wants to be left alone.
654
00:37:53,650 --> 00:37:57,360
They started shooting
tear gas bombs in the...
655
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,150
I mean cannons.
656
00:37:59,150 --> 00:38:01,610
Like cannisters.
657
00:38:01,610 --> 00:38:05,490
And then Terrie entered
through the back door.
658
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,310
When I came in,
I started shouting, "Steven."
659
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,440
I said,
"Steven, this is Terrie."
660
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,530
I said, "Where you at?"
661
00:38:10,530 --> 00:38:13,150
I kept asking, "Where's he at?"
662
00:38:13,150 --> 00:38:15,400
Terrie Guillory claims
663
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,780
Steven raised a weapon at him.
664
00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:19,110
As I was coming out,
665
00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:21,030
he was already standing up,
666
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:24,320
had the gun pointed
straight down at him.
667
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,440
And at that point,
they had no choice
668
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,150
but to fire upon him.
669
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:30,860
He fired a round
same time I fired.
670
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:32,320
I shot him again.
671
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,190
When I shot him,
he fell on the couch
672
00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:35,990
hollering, "He shot me!
He shot me!" or "I'm hit!"
673
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:37,390
or something of that nature.
674
00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:40,520
We grabbed him by the waist,
675
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:43,030
and we drug him out
the front door.
676
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:47,110
Steven's lifeless body
677
00:38:47,110 --> 00:38:50,860
is placed in the front yard.
678
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:53,150
It's a very hot
679
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:55,860
June day in Louisiana,
680
00:38:55,860 --> 00:38:58,570
and Steven's corpse is
681
00:38:58,570 --> 00:39:00,820
left there for hours.
682
00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:12,190
We went to the
Lake Arthur Police Department.
683
00:39:13,610 --> 00:39:15,940
And a gentleman,
an older gentleman,
684
00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:19,740
he introduced hisself
as Richard DuPont, the coroner.
685
00:39:19,730 --> 00:39:22,060
And he said,
686
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:23,940
"I'm gonna be blunt."
687
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:27,070
He said, "I'm tired
of this shit.
688
00:39:27,070 --> 00:39:29,280
I'm tired of covering up
for these people."
689
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,190
After Steven was killed,
690
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:39,650
there was an autopsy.
691
00:39:39,650 --> 00:39:42,070
When you look at the autopsy,
692
00:39:42,070 --> 00:39:44,610
you see there are
693
00:39:44,610 --> 00:39:48,070
multiple gunshot wounds...
694
00:39:48,070 --> 00:39:50,780
in Steven's hands...
695
00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:54,240
I seen the autopsy.
696
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:56,270
He had holes in his wrists.
697
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,400
I believe his hands
698
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,780
was up
when they started shooting.
699
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,240
His family says
700
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:06,270
that it was hard to imagine
701
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,490
Steven's hands wrapped
around a weapon.
702
00:40:10,650 --> 00:40:14,280
And if those hands were
not around a weapon,
703
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,440
then law enforcement's
704
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,320
entire narrative
of the case collapses.
705
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,440
All the news reports
706
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,780
had said he shot
at police officers,
707
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:28,320
he hit a police officer
with his fire from his .22,
708
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,940
but that's not the true story.
709
00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:34,780
They told us it was actually
710
00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:38,610
their own officer's ricochet
that hurt the officer.
711
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,030
And then Mr. DuPont called
712
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:46,490
and said, "Miss Trahan,
I have some information
713
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,140
I was told by the
Lake Charles coroner
714
00:40:49,150 --> 00:40:51,490
I could give it to you."
715
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,430
He said, "There was
no gun residue
716
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,650
found on your brother's hands."
717
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:58,650
I said, "What?"
718
00:40:58,650 --> 00:41:03,440
And he's like,
"There was no gun residue
719
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,650
found on your brother's hands."
720
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:06,740
Twenty, 25 minutes later,
721
00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:08,640
Richard DuPont calls us back.
722
00:41:08,650 --> 00:41:10,440
He said,
723
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,240
"The coroner of Lake Charles
just called me back
724
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:18,140
to ask me how much information
I gave you off the autopsy,
725
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:19,900
and I told him,
726
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:23,070
and he was very upset with me.
727
00:41:23,070 --> 00:41:27,940
He said that they actually
didn't test for gun residue
728
00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:29,860
because, since they shot him,
729
00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:32,150
he would have residue
all over his whole body,
730
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:36,860
so there was no reason
for him to test the hands even."
731
00:41:36,860 --> 00:41:39,740
"But 20 minutes ago, you told me
they did test the hands,
732
00:41:39,730 --> 00:41:42,270
and there was no gun residue
on his hands."
733
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,240
That hit me wrong.
734
00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:51,110
Our investigator, he wanted
to look at the gun hisself,
735
00:41:51,110 --> 00:41:53,490
and when he requested
the gun...
736
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,560
it was lost.
737
00:41:56,570 --> 00:41:58,990
It was lost out of
the evidence locker.
738
00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:02,350
I find it suspicious.
739
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:08,650
You feel in your heart
something ain't right.
740
00:42:08,650 --> 00:42:11,900
Like your brother is dead
741
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,990
because him and his girlfriend
got in an argument?
742
00:42:18,690 --> 00:42:21,780
My brother knew Crystal.
743
00:42:21,780 --> 00:42:24,900
My brother knew
all those girls.
744
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:28,740
My brother would party
with those girls.
745
00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:32,600
I believe my brother knew
too much about Terrie.
746
00:42:32,610 --> 00:42:35,400
Steven was his neighbor
in Hathaway.
747
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,690
Steven was locked up
at his jail all the time.
748
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:41,530
Steven was his informant.
749
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,650
In a deposition, under oath,
750
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:50,320
Terrie admitted that
Steven Gunter worked
751
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,150
as an informant
for the sheriff's office.
752
00:42:57,940 --> 00:42:59,780
In that deposition,
753
00:42:59,780 --> 00:43:02,110
there was a lot of interest
754
00:43:02,110 --> 00:43:04,110
in questioning Terrie
755
00:43:04,110 --> 00:43:07,610
regarding his relationship
with Gunter.
756
00:43:07,610 --> 00:43:10,650
Questions about
the drinking together,
757
00:43:10,650 --> 00:43:13,690
about "Were you
in bars together?"
758
00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:15,240
And yet,
759
00:43:15,230 --> 00:43:17,850
perhaps the most important
piece of this--
760
00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:21,280
that Steven was
an informant for Terrie--
761
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,530
went unexplored.
762
00:43:26,110 --> 00:43:30,400
There was a Louisiana
State Police investigation.
763
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,990
The police concluded
764
00:43:32,980 --> 00:43:36,350
that Terrie Guillory's use
of force in that case
765
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,360
was reasonable and justified.
766
00:43:42,690 --> 00:43:46,820
It was also looked at
by a grand jury.
767
00:43:48,610 --> 00:43:51,150
But the grand jury declined
768
00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:53,490
to bring an indictment
769
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,520
against Terrie Guillory.
770
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,110
I hope to get justice
for my brother,
771
00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:15,820
to get justice for the girls.
772
00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:17,610
God don't sleep.
773
00:44:17,610 --> 00:44:19,690
You may not get it in this life,
774
00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:23,530
but you may get it
in your next one.
775
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:25,690
You reap what you sow
in the end.
776
00:44:30,570 --> 00:44:32,650
In the earliest stages
777
00:44:32,650 --> 00:44:35,150
of my reporting on this case,
778
00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:38,190
I pulled every incident report
779
00:44:38,190 --> 00:44:40,860
or criminal case
780
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:44,030
related to both the Jeff Davis 8
781
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:47,360
and any of their friends,
relatives, associates.
782
00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:56,570
Very quickly I began to see
783
00:44:56,570 --> 00:44:58,740
a specific address pop up
784
00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:02,980
on Highway 26.
785
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:06,280
Right off of I-10.
786
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:12,610
I just ran a basic search
on the address and found
787
00:45:12,610 --> 00:45:14,820
that it was a shuttered motel
788
00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:16,990
called the Boudreaux Inn.
789
00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:24,060
And then I spent quite a while
790
00:45:24,070 --> 00:45:26,740
talking to people
about the Boudreaux Inn.
791
00:45:26,730 --> 00:45:30,390
And they explained that
792
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,280
in the Jeff Davis 8 era,
793
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,610
the Boudreaux Inn
was the place in town
794
00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:38,190
to go for sex and drugs.
795
00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:41,690
I worked at the Boudreaux Inn,
796
00:45:41,690 --> 00:45:43,440
at the caf�.
797
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,690
It was known as
798
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:48,030
a cheap motel in town
to go have a good time.
799
00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:49,940
You know, if you wanted
to get high,
800
00:45:49,940 --> 00:45:51,990
whatever you was
looking for was there.
801
00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:55,780
Ernestine worked
at the Boudreaux Inn.
802
00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:57,240
She was a maid.
803
00:45:57,230 --> 00:46:00,020
Loretta hung out
at the Boudreaux.
804
00:46:00,030 --> 00:46:02,610
That was Loretta's spot.
That was her spot.
805
00:46:02,610 --> 00:46:04,820
Loretta Chaisson,
806
00:46:04,820 --> 00:46:08,780
she always knew how
to hustle up the drugs.
807
00:46:08,780 --> 00:46:11,610
She would go out at
the Boudreaux's Inn
808
00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:14,780
and stuff
and come back with it.
809
00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:17,360
If we ran out,
she'd go and get some more.
810
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,150
My brother lived next
to the Boudreaux Inn.
811
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:23,320
My brother would get drugs
from the Boudreaux Inn.
812
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,990
My brother would party
with those girls.
813
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:29,490
If a female would
814
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,480
want to make some money,
815
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,270
she could go into the bar
816
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,190
at the Boudreaux Inn and...
817
00:46:38,190 --> 00:46:41,820
be able to hustle some money.
818
00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:44,990
Even in the days
before Kristen's murder,
819
00:46:44,980 --> 00:46:47,980
Frankie talks about how he took
820
00:46:47,980 --> 00:46:50,890
Kristen and Tracee Chaisson
821
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:54,650
to the Boudreaux
to make some money.
822
00:46:54,650 --> 00:46:56,820
He was deeply involved
823
00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:59,990
and at times ran
the sex trade there.
824
00:46:59,980 --> 00:47:02,680
I never forced...
825
00:47:02,690 --> 00:47:04,860
one of them girls
to do something
826
00:47:04,860 --> 00:47:06,650
they didn't want to do.
827
00:47:06,650 --> 00:47:10,240
I took them girls off the street
828
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:14,480
where they was jumping
from car to car for ten, $20.
829
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,430
It was convenient
830
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,440
that they had rooms
for rent, you know?
831
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,030
I mean, better than going to
another bar and hustling a chick
832
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:24,990
and going out in a car
and getting a blow job
833
00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:27,520
or something, you know,
in the back seat.
834
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:30,860
Everybody knew that
you went to the front building
835
00:47:30,860 --> 00:47:34,650
to purchase drugs
or purchase women.
836
00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:36,570
And then, at that point,
837
00:47:36,570 --> 00:47:38,740
you took the drugs and the women
838
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:40,680
to the back building
839
00:47:40,690 --> 00:47:44,400
to have sex and use the drugs.
840
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,570
Boudreaux's Inn
made a lot of money.
841
00:47:47,570 --> 00:47:50,400
It was $25 a room
for three hours.
842
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,570
I can flip those rooms
all night long.
843
00:47:53,570 --> 00:47:57,070
Sometimes I had three or four
of 'em going at a time.
844
00:47:57,070 --> 00:47:59,400
Frankie Richard used
845
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,070
the Boudreaux Inn
846
00:48:01,070 --> 00:48:04,070
with many of the women
of the Jeff Davis 8,
847
00:48:04,070 --> 00:48:07,940
as a kind of ATM
for the sex business.
848
00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:12,240
I decided to pull
literally every
849
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:16,310
incident report and every
single call for service
850
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,070
to the Boudreaux Inn during
the Jeff Davis 8 era.
851
00:48:20,070 --> 00:48:24,110
There were thousands
of pages of materials.
852
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,240
Somebody calls
853
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:31,680
the police because there's
854
00:48:31,690 --> 00:48:35,030
a crack party happening
at the Boudreaux Inn.
855
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:37,990
Frankie Richard
and Andrew Newman,
856
00:48:37,980 --> 00:48:40,430
Kristen's father,
are in a fight.
857
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,530
Muggy Brown is in there,
pulling a fire alarm.
858
00:48:44,530 --> 00:48:46,940
Whitnei is stabbed
859
00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:49,650
in there at one point.
860
00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:51,780
The entire universe
861
00:48:51,780 --> 00:48:54,690
of the Jeff Davis 8 are...
862
00:48:54,690 --> 00:48:57,490
enveloped in this
Boudreaux Inn world.
863
00:48:58,780 --> 00:49:03,110
The mountains
of police reports raise
864
00:49:03,110 --> 00:49:06,110
enormous questions about
865
00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:08,240
what the Jennings police
866
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:12,230
or the sheriff's office
knew about this place.
867
00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:15,900
Obviously,
law enforcement was aware
868
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:18,570
that the Boudreaux Inn
was a location that
869
00:49:18,570 --> 00:49:22,990
people involved in drugs
and prostitution were...
870
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:25,350
were known to-to go to.
871
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,690
As for what connection
that had to the murders,
872
00:49:28,690 --> 00:49:30,820
the Jeff Davis 8,
873
00:49:30,820 --> 00:49:32,990
to the degree that
those things were connected,
874
00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:34,980
I-I don't...
I can't tell you that.
875
00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:37,310
You had poor women
876
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,240
who struggled
with substance abuse
877
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:42,810
engaging in sex work
at the Boudreaux Inn,
878
00:49:42,820 --> 00:49:44,690
while at the same time,
879
00:49:44,690 --> 00:49:47,320
these women are being murdered
880
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,900
and having their bodies
dumped all around town.
881
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:54,030
And yet
the Boudreaux Inn continued
882
00:49:54,030 --> 00:49:56,820
to be operated unencumbered.
883
00:49:56,820 --> 00:49:57,690
Why?
884
00:50:00,030 --> 00:50:01,570
Throughout this case,
885
00:50:01,570 --> 00:50:04,440
I was repeatedly warned,
you had to be careful
886
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,900
of that shuttered motel
called the Boudreaux Inn,
887
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:12,150
because it was maintained
888
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:14,940
or operated or owned even
889
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:17,360
by powerful people.
65089
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