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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,082 --> 00:00:46,082 www.titlovi.com 2 00:00:49,082 --> 00:00:52,984 Man: Magic is the word that comes to mind for me 3 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:55,519 when I think of Muscle Shoals. 4 00:00:55,688 --> 00:00:59,351 It's about alchemy, it's about turning metal, 5 00:00:59,526 --> 00:01:03,394 the iron in the ground, the rust, into gold. 6 00:01:03,563 --> 00:01:06,657 You just have to listen. And you will be transported. 7 00:01:06,833 --> 00:01:08,460 You will be changed. 8 00:01:08,601 --> 00:01:12,401 You're going to hear some of the greatest voices that ever were. 9 00:01:14,007 --> 00:01:16,532 * One, two, three 10 00:01:16,709 --> 00:01:19,200 * One, two, three 11 00:01:22,048 --> 00:01:23,811 * Ow! 12 00:01:23,950 --> 00:01:26,544 * Uh! All right! 13 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:27,777 * Uh! 14 00:01:27,921 --> 00:01:30,719 * Got to know how to Pony 15 00:01:30,890 --> 00:01:33,620 * Like Bony Moronie 16 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,354 * Mash Potato 17 00:01:36,496 --> 00:01:38,828 * Do the Alligator 18 00:01:38,965 --> 00:01:41,559 * Put your hand on your hips, yeah 19 00:01:41,734 --> 00:01:44,328 * Let your backbone slip 20 00:01:44,471 --> 00:01:46,962 * Do the Watusi 21 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:49,803 * Like my little Lucy 22 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:52,241 * Ow! Uh! 23 00:01:52,412 --> 00:01:55,006 You know, I feel all right. 24 00:01:55,148 --> 00:01:58,208 Feel pretty good, y'all. 25 00:01:58,351 --> 00:02:03,015 * Na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na na-na 26 00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:04,555 * Na-na na-na 27 00:02:04,724 --> 00:02:06,453 Come on, y'all, let's say it one more time. 28 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:11,120 * Na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na na-na 29 00:02:11,297 --> 00:02:13,231 * Na-na na-na 30 00:02:13,366 --> 00:02:15,095 * Ohh! 31 00:02:15,268 --> 00:02:17,293 * Dancin' in the alley 32 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:20,303 * With Long Tall Sally 33 00:02:20,473 --> 00:02:22,907 * Twistin' with Lucy 34 00:02:23,076 --> 00:02:25,476 * Doin' the Watusi 35 00:02:25,645 --> 00:02:28,409 * Roll over on your back 36 00:02:28,548 --> 00:02:31,210 * I like it like that 37 00:02:31,351 --> 00:02:33,911 * Ohh, help me 38 00:02:34,087 --> 00:02:36,317 * Ohh, help me 39 00:02:36,489 --> 00:02:38,855 We started to hear this sound coming out. 40 00:02:38,992 --> 00:02:41,324 There was an amazing feel. 41 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:46,557 Kind of magnetic, I suppose in a way, sound wise. 42 00:02:46,699 --> 00:02:50,965 And then after a while, this word, "Muscle Shoals" 43 00:02:51,137 --> 00:02:54,436 comes into the picture, and you put two and two together 44 00:02:54,574 --> 00:02:57,441 and that was when I said, "If we get the chance, 45 00:02:57,577 --> 00:02:59,807 we got to go down there," you know. 46 00:03:05,518 --> 00:03:10,581 Man: People now still ask me, "What is it about Muscle Shoals?" 47 00:03:10,723 --> 00:03:14,090 It's just a little village on the Alabama border. 48 00:03:14,227 --> 00:03:18,186 Why does that music come out of there? 49 00:03:18,364 --> 00:03:21,492 It's an enigma. 50 00:03:21,668 --> 00:03:25,832 How did so much music take place 51 00:03:26,005 --> 00:03:28,997 in such an undescript little town? 52 00:03:30,843 --> 00:03:33,311 There was just something about that place, 53 00:03:33,446 --> 00:03:37,314 something that still to this day nobody can explain. 54 00:03:39,185 --> 00:03:42,484 Man: At different points in time, on this planet, 55 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:47,991 there are certain places 56 00:03:48,161 --> 00:03:51,653 where there is a field of energy. 57 00:03:52,532 --> 00:03:56,366 At this certain point in time for this number of years, 58 00:03:56,536 --> 00:03:58,663 there was Muscle Shoals. 59 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:05,801 Richards: It's a unique thing, rooms and record-making 60 00:04:05,945 --> 00:04:08,937 like that, it doesn't happen very often. 61 00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:11,949 It's usually somebody like Rick Hall 62 00:04:12,085 --> 00:04:15,816 that's like a type of maniac. 63 00:04:15,955 --> 00:04:19,391 With the drive and the foresight to do it, you know, 64 00:04:19,559 --> 00:04:22,221 and he's a tough guy. 65 00:04:40,747 --> 00:04:43,716 Hall: This area here is where my roots are. 66 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:49,411 And it's helped me develop into whatever I am today. 67 00:04:49,589 --> 00:04:52,080 My father was a sawmiller, 68 00:04:52,258 --> 00:04:55,625 and we lived way out in the Freedom Hills. 69 00:04:55,795 --> 00:04:57,695 No houses, no neighbors. 70 00:04:57,830 --> 00:05:00,856 No kids to play with. 71 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,696 The floor in our house was dirt. 72 00:05:03,836 --> 00:05:07,294 The heater was made out of an oil drum. 73 00:05:07,473 --> 00:05:10,271 We slept on straw beds made out of straw 74 00:05:10,443 --> 00:05:12,775 that we pulled up in the fields. 75 00:05:15,348 --> 00:05:19,216 We had no bathing facilities, no toilets, nothing. 76 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:25,723 And we just kind of grew up like animals. 77 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:35,931 That made me a little bitter. 78 00:05:36,102 --> 00:05:38,093 Somewhat driven. 79 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:42,206 I wanted to be special. 80 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,207 I wanted to be somebody. 81 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:48,144 (* "Steal Away" - Jimmy Hughes) 82 00:05:58,524 --> 00:06:03,052 * Can you slip away, slip away 83 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:06,359 * Slip away, yeah 84 00:06:06,532 --> 00:06:09,092 * Oh, I need you so 85 00:06:10,069 --> 00:06:12,663 (tape rewinding) 86 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,330 The first record I cut in this studio 87 00:06:15,508 --> 00:06:18,306 was a record called Steal Away by Jimmy Hughes. 88 00:06:18,444 --> 00:06:21,777 Brand new building. And I was hoping it had the magic. 89 00:06:21,914 --> 00:06:22,903 I didn't know. 90 00:06:23,049 --> 00:06:25,279 So I brought my band in, and I went up 91 00:06:25,418 --> 00:06:27,613 in the control room and sat down. 92 00:06:27,754 --> 00:06:29,187 Okay, all set? 93 00:06:29,355 --> 00:06:31,721 I turned on the microphones and nervously hit 94 00:06:31,891 --> 00:06:33,381 the talk-back button to the musicians 95 00:06:33,559 --> 00:06:38,087 and said with a slight crackle in my voice, "Rolling." 96 00:06:38,231 --> 00:06:43,134 One, two, one, two, three, four. 97 00:06:43,269 --> 00:06:46,136 (music begins playing) 98 00:06:46,272 --> 00:06:47,466 When they kicked off Steal Away, 99 00:06:47,607 --> 00:06:50,371 I sat behind the console... 100 00:06:50,543 --> 00:06:52,875 ...and wept. 101 00:06:53,045 --> 00:06:56,811 I just had huge chill bumps come up on my arms. 102 00:06:56,949 --> 00:06:59,884 And the hair on the back of my neck actually stood up. 103 00:07:01,387 --> 00:07:04,481 And of course, this was the birth 104 00:07:04,624 --> 00:07:07,115 of the Muscle Shoals sound. 105 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:11,424 * I've got to see you 106 00:07:13,666 --> 00:07:17,033 * Somehow 107 00:07:17,203 --> 00:07:21,162 * Not tomorrow 108 00:07:21,307 --> 00:07:24,743 * Right now 109 00:07:24,911 --> 00:07:30,349 * I know it's late, whoa, I can't wait 110 00:07:30,483 --> 00:07:35,546 * So come on and steal away 111 00:07:35,688 --> 00:07:38,316 I've heard entertainers and producers tell me 112 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:40,187 that we got some kind of sound here 113 00:07:40,326 --> 00:07:42,385 that they can't get anywhere else. 114 00:07:42,528 --> 00:07:44,257 They have to come here. 115 00:07:44,430 --> 00:07:47,991 Candi Staton: It's that, oh, deep down into your stomach, 116 00:07:48,134 --> 00:07:50,068 coming up out of your gut, 117 00:07:50,236 --> 00:07:53,569 coming up out of your heart. That's that Muscle Shoals sound. 118 00:07:53,706 --> 00:07:58,473 * I won't tell 119 00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:01,636 * Anybody else 120 00:08:01,814 --> 00:08:10,415 * I'll keep it to myself 121 00:08:10,556 --> 00:08:17,223 * I know it's late, whoa, I can't wait 122 00:08:17,363 --> 00:08:21,026 * So come on and steal away 123 00:08:21,167 --> 00:08:26,833 Bono: That sound made it through to even Ireland and Britain. 124 00:08:27,473 --> 00:08:30,306 And we felt the blood in that. 125 00:08:30,476 --> 00:08:34,139 We felt the... the sort of pulse of it. 126 00:08:34,313 --> 00:08:37,282 And we wanted some, you know? 127 00:08:42,121 --> 00:08:44,248 Ivey: You got to understand that Muscle Shoals 128 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:46,119 had its own kind of R & B. 129 00:08:46,292 --> 00:08:48,988 Different from Memphis, different from Detroit, 130 00:08:49,161 --> 00:08:51,652 different from New York, different from L.A. 131 00:08:51,831 --> 00:08:54,766 How did it happen in this little town of 8,000 people, 132 00:08:54,901 --> 00:08:57,631 to start this whole style of music? 133 00:09:00,940 --> 00:09:03,636 Bono: It always seems to come out of the river. 134 00:09:03,776 --> 00:09:06,267 You know, even in Liverpool, 135 00:09:06,412 --> 00:09:08,972 you know, the Mersey sound. 136 00:09:09,148 --> 00:09:11,810 And then of course, Mississippi. 137 00:09:11,951 --> 00:09:15,079 And here you have the Tennessee River. 138 00:09:15,221 --> 00:09:17,553 It's like the songs come out of the mud. 139 00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:21,159 (drums playing) 140 00:09:42,982 --> 00:09:45,644 Man: We're at a place called Ishatae. 141 00:09:45,785 --> 00:09:48,049 It means it's a special place, a holy place. 142 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:51,280 It's a place of music. 143 00:09:51,424 --> 00:09:53,722 And it's a place of people. 144 00:09:53,893 --> 00:09:56,225 I've been working on it for 32 years. 145 00:09:56,395 --> 00:09:59,694 There's over eight million pounds of stones here. 146 00:10:01,934 --> 00:10:04,528 It's a memorial to my great-great-grandmother. 147 00:10:04,670 --> 00:10:09,300 She was an American Indian, and her people were Yuchi. 148 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:11,410 My grandmother's people called this river, 149 00:10:11,577 --> 00:10:13,044 that we call the Tennessee today, 150 00:10:13,212 --> 00:10:16,079 they called it Nunnuhsae, "the river that sings." 151 00:10:16,248 --> 00:10:17,943 They believed a young woman lived in the river, 152 00:10:18,117 --> 00:10:20,347 sang songs to them, and protected them. 153 00:10:25,691 --> 00:10:28,387 In the year 1839, my great-great-grandmother 154 00:10:28,561 --> 00:10:31,724 was removed from right here in Muscle Shoals. 155 00:10:31,864 --> 00:10:33,354 She was taken to the Indian Nations, 156 00:10:33,499 --> 00:10:37,367 what is now present-day Muskogee, Oklahoma. 157 00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:39,232 When Grandmother got out there to Oklahoma, 158 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:40,895 she said there were no songs. 159 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,974 She went and listened to all the streams she could find 160 00:10:43,142 --> 00:10:44,973 and there were no songs. 161 00:10:46,345 --> 00:10:48,643 They couldn't sing, they couldn't dance. 162 00:10:48,814 --> 00:10:52,079 They couldn't hold their ceremonies. 163 00:10:52,251 --> 00:10:54,583 And they got to be very sad people. 164 00:10:55,821 --> 00:10:58,221 So, she started to come back home. 165 00:10:58,357 --> 00:11:00,882 She walked all the way back. 166 00:11:01,027 --> 00:11:03,393 It took her roughly five years. 167 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,234 She had to come back to this river. 168 00:11:10,369 --> 00:11:12,428 The river that sings. 169 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:16,672 The great dams have softened the woman in the river's songs, 170 00:11:16,842 --> 00:11:19,003 but if you go to very quiet places and listen, 171 00:11:19,178 --> 00:11:20,839 you can still hear her songs. 172 00:11:21,013 --> 00:11:24,244 I know, I hear her songs nearly every day. 173 00:11:29,555 --> 00:11:33,252 Hall: When I was a young man, starting out in the music business, 174 00:11:33,392 --> 00:11:36,293 Billy Sherrill and l, who were writing partners, 175 00:11:36,462 --> 00:11:38,396 got a phone call from a guy that wanted 176 00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:40,692 to start a publishing company with us, 177 00:11:40,866 --> 00:11:45,303 and had the sum of $500 to spend on us, 178 00:11:45,471 --> 00:11:47,564 which we thought was a gold mine. 179 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:51,939 So, Tom Stafford was a dream come true. 180 00:11:53,512 --> 00:11:56,606 We went in business and we had a little bitty studio 181 00:11:56,749 --> 00:11:59,411 over Tom's father's drugstore. 182 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:04,853 We got a few cuts, made a few bucks, 183 00:12:05,024 --> 00:12:07,618 and one day, I was called in to a meeting with Billy and Tom 184 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,489 and they advised me that they were not happy 185 00:12:09,662 --> 00:12:11,630 with the way things were going and thought 186 00:12:11,764 --> 00:12:14,858 that I was a little too much of a workaholic. 187 00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:18,298 And said that they wanted to have fun 188 00:12:18,437 --> 00:12:20,200 while they were having hit records, 189 00:12:20,372 --> 00:12:24,832 and that I was just too adamant and too strong-willed, 190 00:12:24,977 --> 00:12:26,137 and too pushy. 191 00:12:26,278 --> 00:12:29,679 So, they decided to let me go. 192 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:35,285 So, I obviously went home, began to lick my wounds, 193 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:38,515 and was very bitter. 194 00:12:44,063 --> 00:12:46,293 During this time, I worked at a place called 195 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:49,333 Reynolds Metals Company in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. 196 00:12:49,468 --> 00:12:53,404 And I married my first wife, Faye Marie, there. 197 00:12:53,572 --> 00:12:56,473 She and I had been married about 18 months, 198 00:12:56,609 --> 00:13:01,308 and we went to Hamilton to see Benny Martin in concert. 199 00:13:02,414 --> 00:13:05,247 It was about sundown, and I met a car 200 00:13:05,417 --> 00:13:07,078 who was traveling very fast. 201 00:13:07,253 --> 00:13:09,084 I swerved to go around that car. 202 00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:11,951 I hit some loose gravels on the side of the road 203 00:13:12,124 --> 00:13:14,319 and went into a spin, a tailspin. 204 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:17,759 The car turned end over end a couple, three times, 205 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:19,591 and landed on its top. 206 00:13:19,765 --> 00:13:21,665 And didn't know if she was out or in, 207 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:23,860 but couldn't find her in the car, it was total darkness. 208 00:13:24,003 --> 00:13:28,406 I began to yell for her and couldn't hear any noise, 209 00:13:28,574 --> 00:13:31,873 except I could hear gasoline running out of the gas tank 210 00:13:32,011 --> 00:13:34,343 into the car somewhere. 211 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,142 And I thought, of course, it's going to be my death 212 00:13:37,316 --> 00:13:39,147 because the car's going to catch fire 213 00:13:39,318 --> 00:13:40,683 and I can't get out. 214 00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:45,052 I got out of the car and searched around 215 00:13:45,191 --> 00:13:47,557 in kudzu vines up to here. 216 00:13:49,695 --> 00:13:51,959 Finally, some people stopped with a flashlight 217 00:13:52,131 --> 00:13:53,758 and we found her. 218 00:13:53,899 --> 00:13:56,390 I nursed her on the way to Hamilton Hospital. 219 00:13:56,535 --> 00:13:58,765 About two o'clock in the morning, the doctor came to me 220 00:13:58,904 --> 00:14:01,372 and said, "Your wife has passed on." 221 00:14:04,443 --> 00:14:06,468 And, of course, I freaked out. 222 00:14:08,647 --> 00:14:11,548 I became a drunk, a vagabond. 223 00:14:11,684 --> 00:14:13,811 A tramp. 224 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:21,255 That changed my whole life. 225 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,999 It was hard times and all I had to cling to was my music. 226 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:33,297 I slept in my car. 227 00:14:33,472 --> 00:14:35,440 I ate in my car. 228 00:14:35,574 --> 00:14:37,405 And I wrote songs in my car. 229 00:14:38,410 --> 00:14:41,174 But I continued playing music and it was the only love I had 230 00:14:41,347 --> 00:14:44,783 at that time, and so... 231 00:14:44,917 --> 00:14:49,786 I joined a little local band in Hamilton. 232 00:14:49,922 --> 00:14:54,120 From that time on, for five years, I wrote songs, 233 00:14:55,961 --> 00:14:58,020 played music, 234 00:14:58,197 --> 00:15:00,597 and chased the women. 235 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:01,901 * Somebody loan me a dime 236 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:03,630 * Somebody loan me a dime 237 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:15,312 * I need to call my old time, used to be 238 00:15:15,447 --> 00:15:18,780 Hall: All this gravitated towards, 239 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:20,317 what am I going to do with the rest of my life, 240 00:15:20,452 --> 00:15:22,920 and I decided to come back to Muscle Shoals, 241 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:25,921 but this time I came back with a vengeance. 242 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:28,491 I came back with a determination that I was going to 243 00:15:28,627 --> 00:15:30,857 kick some ass and take some names. 244 00:15:30,996 --> 00:15:34,454 And I was going to make it in the music business. 245 00:15:36,735 --> 00:15:42,071 And so I set up shop in a little candy and tobacco warehouse. 246 00:15:42,241 --> 00:15:44,004 I closed the doors, I hid my car. 247 00:15:44,143 --> 00:15:45,804 I didn't talk to girls, I didn't make dates, 248 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:49,073 I didn't do anything except write songs 249 00:15:49,248 --> 00:15:51,739 and I was totally obsessed with the business. 250 00:15:51,917 --> 00:15:55,717 And so shortly after that, I ran into Arthur Alexander, 251 00:15:55,888 --> 00:15:59,221 who was a local bellhop at the Sheffield Hotel. 252 00:15:59,358 --> 00:16:01,849 And he played me a song and said, "What do you think?" 253 00:16:01,994 --> 00:16:05,395 And I said, "I think it's a hit." 254 00:16:05,564 --> 00:16:07,088 He said, "What are we gonna do about it?" 255 00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:09,826 I said, "We're going to cut it." He said, "When?", I said, "Tomorrow." 256 00:16:12,304 --> 00:16:13,566 I brought my band in. 257 00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:15,866 Norbert Putnam, David Briggs, 258 00:16:16,008 --> 00:16:18,135 Jerry Carrigan, Peanut Montgomery, 259 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:20,904 and Terry Thompson were the first rhythm section 260 00:16:21,046 --> 00:16:23,446 to be in the studio and to cut a hit record. 261 00:16:23,615 --> 00:16:26,243 Putnam: Now, you gotta realize Rick Hall is this older man. 262 00:16:26,385 --> 00:16:28,444 We're all 18, 19 years old. 263 00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:30,611 And Rick's what, 28, 29? 264 00:16:30,789 --> 00:16:33,383 He had the vision for the recording. 265 00:16:33,525 --> 00:16:35,152 Rick made records with 266 00:16:35,327 --> 00:16:37,989 a group of teenage kids, okay, 267 00:16:38,163 --> 00:16:41,155 that became hit records, world-class records. 268 00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:50,173 * You asked me to give up the hand of the girl I love 269 00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:56,747 * You tell me I'm not the man she's worthy of 270 00:16:56,882 --> 00:16:58,281 The very first record, You Better Move On, 271 00:16:58,417 --> 00:17:01,545 by Arthur Alexander that I produced, I had anything to do with was a hit. 272 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,621 Not the second or third, but the first session we cut 273 00:17:03,789 --> 00:17:05,017 was a hit record. 274 00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:07,886 Carrigan: I know Rick was determined to cut that hit 275 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,654 and he did it, but if he hadn't, 276 00:17:09,828 --> 00:17:11,989 I'm of the opinion that none of this 277 00:17:12,164 --> 00:17:13,256 Muscle Shoals movement 278 00:17:13,432 --> 00:17:15,263 would have ever happened. 279 00:17:15,401 --> 00:17:18,768 * That's up to her 280 00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:23,034 * Yes, and the Lord above 281 00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:25,642 * You better move on 282 00:17:25,811 --> 00:17:28,609 The rest of the world started looking at Muscle Shoals. 283 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:31,307 Thank you very much. 284 00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:34,442 We're gonna do a slow one now, it's called, You Better Move On. 285 00:17:35,754 --> 00:17:37,483 It was the only thing we did like that. 286 00:17:37,656 --> 00:17:39,954 And the girls really adored this song. 287 00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:42,060 It was a big hit for us in England. 288 00:17:42,227 --> 00:17:43,626 It was a number-one record. 289 00:17:43,762 --> 00:17:47,289 * If you ask me to give up the hand 290 00:17:47,433 --> 00:17:49,230 * Of the girl I love 291 00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:52,461 I think the Beatles beat us to Arthur Alexander 292 00:17:52,604 --> 00:17:55,664 by, like, a couple of weeks. You know, they cut Anna 293 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:59,140 and I think we cut Better Move On maybe a month later. 294 00:17:59,278 --> 00:18:02,873 There's a love of Arthur Alexander. 295 00:18:03,048 --> 00:18:06,848 * You ask me to give up the only love 296 00:18:07,019 --> 00:18:09,886 * I've ever had 297 00:18:10,055 --> 00:18:13,616 Richards: At that time, we had no idea where this was recorded, 298 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:17,160 but it's interesting to know one of the first things that we cut 299 00:18:17,296 --> 00:18:21,062 was a Muscle Shoals production, you know. 300 00:18:21,233 --> 00:18:23,667 * Better move on 301 00:18:25,804 --> 00:18:27,863 This original Muscle Shoals rhythm section 302 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,205 opened for the Beatles in 1964, their first American concert. 303 00:18:33,345 --> 00:18:36,371 And of course, a year later in '65, we all go to Nashville. 304 00:18:36,515 --> 00:18:40,212 Hall: These guys went on to become great pickers and producers 305 00:18:40,352 --> 00:18:43,583 and learned from experience here at FAME, 306 00:18:43,755 --> 00:18:45,347 man, we can do it. 307 00:18:45,491 --> 00:18:47,891 Johnson: When they left, there was nobody else. 308 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:51,689 We were the only game in town for him to get. 309 00:18:51,897 --> 00:18:54,991 (crowd chatter) 310 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,828 They took the ball that we started rolling, 311 00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:59,938 and they rolled it and made it bigger. 312 00:19:00,105 --> 00:19:04,769 Individually, I never really thought we were great players. 313 00:19:04,943 --> 00:19:07,309 But together, we were great players. 314 00:19:07,479 --> 00:19:09,413 We had the magic together. 315 00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:16,087 Beckett: We liked playing funky. 316 00:19:16,221 --> 00:19:19,679 All funky was was that we didn't know how to make it smooth. 317 00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:22,055 We're rock 'n' roll players, okay? 318 00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:24,958 You just didn't expect them to be as funky 319 00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:27,030 or as greasy as they were. 320 00:19:28,634 --> 00:19:32,263 * I know a place 321 00:19:32,404 --> 00:19:33,928 * Ain't nobody cryin' 322 00:19:34,106 --> 00:19:37,906 The grooves that we set up came from rhythm and blues music. 323 00:19:38,043 --> 00:19:41,479 I remember when Paul Simon called Stax Records, 324 00:19:41,647 --> 00:19:43,308 talked to Al Bell. 325 00:19:43,482 --> 00:19:46,042 And said, "Hey, man, I want those same black players 326 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:47,584 that played on I'll Take You There. 327 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:51,948 He said, "That can happen, but these guys are mighty pale." 328 00:19:52,124 --> 00:19:54,319 * Let me take you there 329 00:19:54,493 --> 00:19:56,188 * I'll take you there 330 00:19:56,361 --> 00:19:58,295 * You got to, got to, gotta let me 331 00:19:58,430 --> 00:20:00,057 * I'll take you there 332 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:02,599 A lot of people could not believe 333 00:20:02,734 --> 00:20:06,192 that my whole band was white guys that played behind me. 334 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:08,896 Bono: People have arrived at Muscle Shoals 335 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:11,271 expecting to meet these black dudes, 336 00:20:11,410 --> 00:20:13,844 and they're a bunch of white guys that looked like 337 00:20:14,012 --> 00:20:16,173 they worked in the supermarket around the corner. 338 00:20:17,282 --> 00:20:19,113 Johnson: The Muscle Shoals rhythm section: 339 00:20:19,251 --> 00:20:21,082 David Hood, bass player. 340 00:20:23,622 --> 00:20:26,386 Jimmy Johnson, guitar. 341 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:29,288 Hawkins: Roger Hawkins, drums. 342 00:20:29,428 --> 00:20:31,362 Beckett: Barry Beckett, keyboard player. 343 00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:39,399 Later on, became known as the Swampers. 344 00:20:42,608 --> 00:20:44,803 Hall: A strong rhythm section made the difference 345 00:20:44,943 --> 00:20:47,309 when you went in the studio every day with the same pickers 346 00:20:47,446 --> 00:20:50,779 and the same players, and they became a team, 347 00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:53,111 and it was hard to beat that. 348 00:20:54,052 --> 00:20:58,045 We began to bring in songwriters and musicians, 349 00:20:58,223 --> 00:21:00,692 anybody that wanted to be in the music business. 350 00:21:09,301 --> 00:21:12,031 (keyboard music) 351 00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:26,183 Oldham: I guess during high school, I started going over 352 00:21:26,318 --> 00:21:28,252 to FAME studio. 353 00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:32,356 That was like a melting pot for songwriters, musicians. 354 00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:35,927 I was, as a teenager, really impressed with all that. 355 00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:39,757 Penn: I came up here and I'm just a kid, really. 356 00:21:39,931 --> 00:21:42,559 And all these people here were kids, too. 357 00:21:42,701 --> 00:21:44,601 I mean, nobody knew anything. 358 00:21:51,777 --> 00:21:55,372 Fritts: We're just doing our best to learn how to make records 359 00:21:55,514 --> 00:22:00,042 and learn how to write songs and learn how to play music. 360 00:22:15,367 --> 00:22:18,495 Most of these guys around here, including myself, 361 00:22:18,670 --> 00:22:21,195 are country people. 362 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:22,967 We come from the country. 363 00:22:23,141 --> 00:22:24,904 Arthur Alexander, Jimmy Hughes, 364 00:22:25,043 --> 00:22:28,274 they were the pioneers as far as the artist goes down here, 365 00:22:28,413 --> 00:22:31,109 Percy Sledge. These are just local people. 366 00:22:33,585 --> 00:22:35,678 Sledge: I'm from a small town called Leighton, 367 00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:37,515 right outside of Muscle Shoals. 368 00:22:39,524 --> 00:22:41,287 I was a little guy working in the fields, 369 00:22:41,426 --> 00:22:44,918 chopping cotton, singing to the older people in the field 370 00:22:45,063 --> 00:22:46,428 that always said that one day, 371 00:22:46,565 --> 00:22:48,362 my voice would be heard all over the world, 372 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,626 but I never thought that would happen. 373 00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:56,269 Percy worked at the local hospital. 374 00:22:57,609 --> 00:23:00,544 Sledge: I was a orderly working with the sick people. 375 00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:04,443 I'd sing a song for them, you know, and they'd go to sleep. 376 00:23:04,583 --> 00:23:06,949 I got such a big kick out of that, you know, 377 00:23:07,085 --> 00:23:09,610 and I could see my patient laying up there, 378 00:23:09,755 --> 00:23:12,952 smiling, you know, and feeling better. 379 00:23:13,091 --> 00:23:16,083 So one day I was invited to sing 380 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:19,026 at the Elks Club here in Sheffield. 381 00:23:19,197 --> 00:23:21,188 And it just so happened Quin lvy, 382 00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:23,391 who was a disc jockey at WLAY, 383 00:23:23,568 --> 00:23:25,365 and he heard me sing this song. 384 00:23:25,537 --> 00:23:28,404 And he loved the melody and the feel. 385 00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:31,098 He said, "Percy Sledge, have you ever been interested 386 00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:33,643 in cutting a record?" 387 00:23:33,779 --> 00:23:35,371 I remember the day I got the call. 388 00:23:35,547 --> 00:23:38,107 "Will you come do keyboards on this recording session? 389 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:41,845 Be the first recording this artist has ever done." 390 00:23:42,020 --> 00:23:44,147 Sledge: When I came into the studio, 391 00:23:44,289 --> 00:23:46,951 I was shaking like a leaf. I was scared. 392 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:52,120 * When a man loves a woman 393 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:55,825 * Can't keep his mind on nothin' else 394 00:23:55,967 --> 00:24:00,768 * He'd trade the world for the good thing he's found 395 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:02,770 Every time that he sang the song, 396 00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:06,877 he had different levels for different parts of the song. 397 00:24:07,045 --> 00:24:09,605 And everything had to be in your wrist. 398 00:24:09,781 --> 00:24:11,305 Bring the level up and down. 399 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,884 All I had was a voice, I didn't know anything 400 00:24:14,052 --> 00:24:15,610 about no singing, you know. 401 00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:20,785 Johnson: Somehow, I got one down, and Percy was on time with me 402 00:24:20,959 --> 00:24:22,551 with a great vocal. 403 00:24:22,694 --> 00:24:28,997 * He'd give up all his comforts 404 00:24:29,134 --> 00:24:32,865 * And sleep out in the rain 405 00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:38,032 * If she said that's the way it ought to be 406 00:24:38,176 --> 00:24:41,475 All this was just so new to me and these guys made me feel like 407 00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:44,240 hey, man, you can do it, you got it, you know. 408 00:24:44,416 --> 00:24:46,907 I used to call them my family. 409 00:24:47,085 --> 00:24:49,576 Donna Thatcher, all of them, you know. 410 00:24:49,721 --> 00:24:52,815 My first wonderful experience 411 00:24:52,991 --> 00:24:56,586 was singing on When a Man Loves A Woman with Percy Sledge, 412 00:24:56,728 --> 00:25:00,926 and you never know when you're making history. 413 00:25:01,099 --> 00:25:07,436 * Baby, please don't treat me bad 414 00:25:07,572 --> 00:25:09,836 (phone ringing) 415 00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:11,498 Hall: Quin called me one Sunday afternoon 416 00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:13,940 and said, "Do you know of a place we can get a deal?" 417 00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:15,909 And I said, "I think so," and I picked up the phone 418 00:25:16,047 --> 00:25:18,208 and called Jerry Wexler in New York. 419 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:22,810 Jerry Wexler was probably the biggest record company guru in the world. 420 00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:29,519 It was a man named Rick Hall who had a studio in Muscle Shoals. 421 00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:32,959 I said, "You told me if I heard something I thought was a big hit 422 00:25:33,131 --> 00:25:34,428 to call you, and I'm calling you." 423 00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:36,295 Play a little bit of this thing here. 424 00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:38,163 (music playing) 425 00:25:38,336 --> 00:25:40,531 Wexler: And I heard some music coming from there, 426 00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:42,935 and it was fabulous. 427 00:25:43,074 --> 00:25:44,939 What do you think? 428 00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:46,873 We pressed and distributed the record, 429 00:25:47,045 --> 00:25:48,171 and that was a big hit. 430 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,814 * When a man loves a woman 431 00:25:52,951 --> 00:25:56,512 Hall: That began a great relationship between Jerry Wexler, 432 00:25:56,688 --> 00:25:58,519 Atlantic Records, and Rick Hall. 433 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:01,022 And of course, the record's still one of the most 434 00:26:01,192 --> 00:26:02,625 classic records in the business. 435 00:26:02,761 --> 00:26:08,427 * If she's played him for a fool 436 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:09,829 * He's the last one to know 437 00:26:09,968 --> 00:26:13,131 Same melody that I sang when I been in the field. 438 00:26:13,271 --> 00:26:18,004 I just wails out in the woods and let the echo come back to me. 439 00:26:18,176 --> 00:26:21,913 * When a man loves a woman 440 00:26:23,748 --> 00:26:26,342 * He can do her no wrong 441 00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:28,713 l, George C. Wallace... 442 00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:32,584 Hall: During that era of recording basically all-black acts, 443 00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:34,588 you gotta remember that George Wallace 444 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,226 was standing in the schoolhouse door 445 00:26:36,394 --> 00:26:38,225 at the University of Alabama, 446 00:26:38,396 --> 00:26:40,921 making sure that no black people came to school there. 447 00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:45,763 And I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, 448 00:26:45,937 --> 00:26:47,734 and segregation forever. 449 00:26:51,409 --> 00:26:53,604 Bono: This was a politics that could not see 450 00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:55,507 past the color of your skin. 451 00:26:59,384 --> 00:27:02,785 It's the kind of thing that I know people of this era, 452 00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:06,185 they wouldn't want to believe what it used to be. 453 00:27:06,324 --> 00:27:09,418 I think of all the times when we used to take a break 454 00:27:09,594 --> 00:27:12,062 from the studio to go out and eat. 455 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:14,494 I was somewhat frightened from time to time 456 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:18,729 when we'd go and buy dinner for half a dozen black people. 457 00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:24,335 That's where you saw, like, what are you... 458 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:25,807 What are y'all doing sitting there? 459 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,737 Even though the civil rights movement was already in effect, 460 00:27:31,883 --> 00:27:36,513 it still hadn't dawned on people that this is the new era. 461 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,987 (applause) 462 00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:43,825 I have a dream that one day, 463 00:27:43,995 --> 00:27:50,298 down in Alabama with its vicious racists, 464 00:27:50,468 --> 00:27:52,459 one day right there in Alabama, 465 00:27:52,637 --> 00:27:55,071 little black boys and black girls 466 00:27:55,206 --> 00:27:57,640 will be able to join hands with little white boys 467 00:27:57,809 --> 00:27:59,936 and white girls as sisters and brothers. 468 00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:01,807 I have a dream today. 469 00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:13,448 When I was a young boy, it was always if I met a white boy, 470 00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:18,255 I had to say, "This is Mr. Robert 471 00:28:18,396 --> 00:28:20,921 or Mr. Jimmy." 472 00:28:21,066 --> 00:28:24,229 But in the studio, we got away from that, 473 00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:27,566 it was Jimmy, it was Robert, it was Clarence, you know. 474 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:30,140 You could go that way. 475 00:28:30,308 --> 00:28:31,570 Or something like, you know... 476 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,234 Do it one more time. 477 00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,347 Carter: You just worked together, you never thought about 478 00:28:36,514 --> 00:28:40,348 who was white and who was black. 479 00:28:40,518 --> 00:28:42,315 You thought about the common thing 480 00:28:42,487 --> 00:28:44,455 and it was the music. 481 00:28:47,192 --> 00:28:48,625 Hall: We were color blind. 482 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:54,323 There was never any situation that came up in the studio here ever 483 00:28:54,499 --> 00:28:55,989 about, "You're black and I'm white." 484 00:28:57,035 --> 00:28:58,730 Bono: And you think about the South. 485 00:28:58,903 --> 00:29:00,302 They didn't believe that black and white people 486 00:29:00,438 --> 00:29:01,962 could live together. 487 00:29:02,107 --> 00:29:05,508 And here are vinyl records 488 00:29:05,677 --> 00:29:08,737 that prove that not only can they live together, 489 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:11,177 you might not know who's black and who's white. 490 00:29:13,618 --> 00:29:17,349 At the time, this was revolutionary stuff. 491 00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:25,896 Carter: Music played a big part in changing the thoughts of people, 492 00:29:26,064 --> 00:29:28,532 especially in the South, about race. 493 00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:32,761 By us being in Muscle Shoals 494 00:29:32,937 --> 00:29:36,703 and putting music together, 495 00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:40,004 I think it went a long ways to help people understand 496 00:29:40,145 --> 00:29:42,443 that we all were just humans. 497 00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:46,250 Hall: My stock went sky-high with Wexler 498 00:29:46,417 --> 00:29:50,114 after the Percy Sledge single went number one worldwide, 499 00:29:50,288 --> 00:29:52,916 and he said, "Rick, I've had a little bit of a dispute 500 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:55,753 with Jim Stewart at Stax and he don't want me to cut 501 00:29:55,927 --> 00:29:57,792 any more records over at his studio." 502 00:29:57,962 --> 00:30:02,262 The welcoming mat for me at Memphis was cold. 503 00:30:02,433 --> 00:30:04,697 So I got the idea of calling Rick Hall 504 00:30:04,836 --> 00:30:07,202 and saying, "Hey, can I bring Wilson Pickett down here 505 00:30:07,338 --> 00:30:10,865 and make some records with you guys?" Which we did. 506 00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:13,475 (blues music plays) 507 00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:20,284 Pickett: I gets off the plane, Southern Airlines, 508 00:30:20,451 --> 00:30:25,150 and here, this long, tall white man, we call 'em peckerwoods. 509 00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:28,781 Hall: I met Wilson Pickett, picked him up at the airport. 510 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,521 He looked like, to me, a dangerous man. 511 00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:35,894 Pickett: He walked up like he'd known me for 500 years. 512 00:30:36,034 --> 00:30:38,559 "Hey, Wilson, come on, come on. We gonna cut some fucking records." 513 00:30:38,703 --> 00:30:41,263 We gonna really cut some records. Come on, Wilson, come on." 514 00:30:41,439 --> 00:30:43,430 I said, "Wait, wait." I'm nervous, you know what I mean? 515 00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:47,066 Now what this white man know about producing a Wilson Pickett? 516 00:30:49,547 --> 00:30:52,482 And on the way to the studio, I'd look at him and he'd look at me, 517 00:30:52,650 --> 00:30:54,174 and I could see it in his eyes, he was thinking, 518 00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:57,253 "What am I doing with this cracker down here in Alabama?" 519 00:30:58,256 --> 00:31:00,986 We went through the cotton patch, people still picking cotton. 520 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:04,324 I said, "Is that what I think it is?" 521 00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:07,791 "Yeah, Wilson, they're still picking cotton down here." 522 00:31:07,932 --> 00:31:10,765 You can see his studio from the cotton patch. 523 00:31:14,472 --> 00:31:17,305 Pickett had a very quick temper. 524 00:31:17,475 --> 00:31:20,638 I was there to make it work, period. You know what I mean? 525 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,443 Hall: On session, if he didn't like what was going on 526 00:31:24,582 --> 00:31:26,015 and didn't like the attitude, 527 00:31:26,184 --> 00:31:28,311 he was just liable to whip the drummer. 528 00:31:28,486 --> 00:31:30,681 Say, "Come out, son, I'm gonna beat your ass." 529 00:31:30,855 --> 00:31:33,688 I was nervous, I was sitting behind the drums 530 00:31:33,858 --> 00:31:36,418 and I was getting things together, like drummers do, 531 00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:38,051 and checking things. 532 00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:40,163 Johnson: Our band was super nervous 533 00:31:40,298 --> 00:31:42,528 the first time we worked for Jerry Wexler. 534 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:45,168 We had this feeling that if we couldn't play 535 00:31:45,303 --> 00:31:48,761 what he asked us to play, we'd probably be fired on the spot. 536 00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:51,239 Wexler: I was apprehensive, very leery, 537 00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:53,639 because it was entirely different 538 00:31:53,778 --> 00:31:56,804 from what we had been doing in New York, 539 00:31:56,948 --> 00:32:00,008 which was recording with written arrangements, 540 00:32:00,151 --> 00:32:03,609 arrangers, and studio players who read the charts. 541 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:05,814 Pickett: We would get in the studio and add 542 00:32:05,957 --> 00:32:07,618 a little bit of this, a little bit of that, 543 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,227 and then we'll go to lunch, come back, and we didn't like that, 544 00:32:10,395 --> 00:32:12,454 take it away, you know, that kind of stuff. 545 00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:15,191 We would sit there and we'd make that record together. 546 00:32:20,138 --> 00:32:22,003 Those guys are sitting there in that studio, 547 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:24,199 and just find the groove, you know? 548 00:32:24,342 --> 00:32:26,071 And I'd be right there with them, singing along 549 00:32:26,244 --> 00:32:28,405 and we'd all work it out together. 550 00:32:28,579 --> 00:32:31,571 Rick Hall, he stuck there every minute. 551 00:32:31,749 --> 00:32:34,582 Rick Hall was his own engineer. He built the studio. 552 00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:38,279 He knew all the electric wiring in there. 553 00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:40,219 And that drummer they had was fantastic. 554 00:32:40,358 --> 00:32:43,259 He was a funky drummer, but he wasn't wearing himself out 555 00:32:43,428 --> 00:32:46,761 all over the place, you know? He was just... he was just there. 556 00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:53,767 We was cooking away on the thing and Wexler was in the control room. 557 00:32:53,938 --> 00:32:57,669 He said, "Baby, it's working. Hey, baby, it's funky." 558 00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,300 (laughing) 559 00:33:04,215 --> 00:33:09,243 Rick Hall had a rhythm section of exceptional players. 560 00:33:14,692 --> 00:33:16,785 This was very inspirational to me. 561 00:33:17,628 --> 00:33:20,461 Johnson: Jerry came out at the end of the first day, 562 00:33:20,631 --> 00:33:24,067 we had just cut Land of 1,000 Dances, 563 00:33:24,202 --> 00:33:26,466 and he walks out in front of Roger, 564 00:33:26,637 --> 00:33:31,233 and Roger's ears had never heard anything like this. 565 00:33:31,376 --> 00:33:33,776 Hawkins: He said, "Roger." I said, "Yes, sir?" 566 00:33:33,945 --> 00:33:37,574 He said, "Roger, you're a great drummer." 567 00:33:37,715 --> 00:33:39,148 And all of a sudden, it just... 568 00:33:39,317 --> 00:33:43,185 I just kind of relaxed and became a great drummer, 569 00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:45,788 just like he said I was. 570 00:33:47,158 --> 00:33:49,490 Pickett: After my first night in that studio with them, 571 00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:52,993 I was convinced that that could be a recording home for me. 572 00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:55,462 * Mustang Sally 573 00:33:56,334 --> 00:34:00,100 We cut Mustang Sally all the Funky Broadway, 574 00:34:00,238 --> 00:34:03,469 The Land of 1,000 Whole Dances. 575 00:34:03,641 --> 00:34:06,667 Boy, these... chewin' the... "How do you like that, Wilson?" 576 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:11,106 Pickett and I were soul brothers, we were. 577 00:34:11,249 --> 00:34:15,151 We was nitty gritty. Right down in the cold nitty gritty. 578 00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:20,156 * Oh, guess I have to put your flat feet on the ground now 579 00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:24,455 Everything was just roses with me with Jerry Wexler. 580 00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:27,325 Jerry took a liking to us from the very beginning. 581 00:34:28,699 --> 00:34:31,463 * All you wanna do is ride around, Sally 582 00:34:31,602 --> 00:34:33,536 Wexler: There's just something that leaps out of a record, 583 00:34:33,704 --> 00:34:35,831 I call it the sonority of the record. 584 00:34:37,241 --> 00:34:42,144 It's the way the sound of the record impacts on the ear, instantly. 585 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,044 And to me, that's the magic ingredient in a phonograph record. 586 00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:50,381 * Oh, I got to put your flat feet on the ground 587 00:34:50,555 --> 00:34:53,183 The Rolling Stones had it, the Beatles had it, 588 00:34:53,324 --> 00:34:56,851 and they had it, and so from then on, 589 00:34:57,028 --> 00:35:01,021 Muscle Shoals became the place that I preferred to go and loved to go. 590 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:05,425 * Ride, Sally, ride 591 00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:11,571 Hawkins: I grew up north of Florence. 592 00:35:14,445 --> 00:35:16,345 It really wasn't a town, 593 00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:18,415 just a dirt road. 594 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,282 The only way to get to Florence, at that time, 595 00:35:23,454 --> 00:35:24,853 we had no car. 596 00:35:24,989 --> 00:35:27,116 My mom and I would walk 597 00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:30,283 from the dirt road down to the highway 598 00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:33,089 to catch a bus to go into Florence, 599 00:35:33,264 --> 00:35:36,700 which was five miles away. 600 00:35:36,834 --> 00:35:38,699 I was born in Sheffield, Alabama, 601 00:35:38,836 --> 00:35:40,701 and graduated from Sheffield High School. 602 00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:46,208 While in high school, I would see Hollis Dixon and the Keynotes. 603 00:35:46,344 --> 00:35:48,539 Was the first rock 'n' roll band around here, 604 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:50,146 and I just fell in love with that. 605 00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:52,111 I thought, "I've got to learn how to do that." 606 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,845 Beckett: You got Roger Hawkins in a group called The Del Rays. 607 00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:00,787 Jimmy Johnson was playing guitar. 608 00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:02,255 I remember hearing the Del Rays 609 00:36:02,393 --> 00:36:04,554 when I was going to the University of Alabama. 610 00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:08,096 And I remember, I could not get into the fraternity house. 611 00:36:08,232 --> 00:36:10,029 So I had to stay outside and listen to it. 612 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:14,434 The ground was rumbling, okay? It was such a great band. 613 00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:19,075 Johnson: We met each other when we started playing 614 00:36:19,210 --> 00:36:21,872 at the Tuscumbia National Guard Armory at the square dance. 615 00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:25,512 Half the night was rock 'n' roll, 616 00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:29,585 and then after that it was all square dance. 617 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,154 We made $10 each for that. 618 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:44,629 After Wilson Pickett, I became Jerry's right hand man. 619 00:36:44,802 --> 00:36:48,363 And so he said, "I'm thinking about signing a new act, 620 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:49,904 her name is Aretha Franklin. 621 00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:52,009 She's on CBS Records and it's not happening, 622 00:36:52,176 --> 00:36:54,144 they can't sell records on her. 623 00:36:54,378 --> 00:37:01,307 * I'm only one step ahead of heartbreak 624 00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:04,683 I had heard her real smooth records on Columbia. 625 00:37:04,855 --> 00:37:07,187 You couldn't really get your teeth into 'em. 626 00:37:07,358 --> 00:37:11,852 * One step is all I have to take 627 00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:14,361 These lush arrangements that she was doing at CBS, 628 00:37:14,532 --> 00:37:16,625 which weren't successful either. 629 00:37:16,767 --> 00:37:19,497 No one knew what to do. She had this great voice, 630 00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:21,935 but lots of people have a great voice. 631 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:25,702 I've still got to find out who and what I really am. 632 00:37:25,876 --> 00:37:27,844 I don't know yet. 633 00:37:28,012 --> 00:37:30,105 I'm trying to find the answer. 634 00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:31,943 Wexler: I wasn't exactly hoping that she wouldn't have 635 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:34,347 any hits on Columbia Records. 636 00:37:34,485 --> 00:37:37,215 But the way it went, they dropped her after five years. 637 00:37:37,388 --> 00:37:39,151 A week later we were in my office in New York, 638 00:37:39,290 --> 00:37:40,814 we signed her up. 639 00:37:40,958 --> 00:37:43,256 He said, "You know, I've got this great little studio 640 00:37:43,427 --> 00:37:46,828 down in Muscle Shoals, and these cats... 641 00:37:46,964 --> 00:37:50,195 These cats are really greasy. You gonna love it." 642 00:37:53,571 --> 00:37:54,595 Penn: She walks in. 643 00:37:55,473 --> 00:37:56,531 Right over there. 644 00:37:59,076 --> 00:38:02,807 And she's got this aura around her, pretty thick. 645 00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:05,609 I mean, the girl was special. 646 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:11,244 I remember watching the guys being good southern boys, 647 00:38:11,422 --> 00:38:15,051 They'd carry on with anything except looking or dealing with her. 648 00:38:18,229 --> 00:38:21,164 So she walked right over to the piano. 649 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:22,459 She sat there a moment. 650 00:38:24,502 --> 00:38:27,903 And then she just hit this unknown chord, I would say. 651 00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:33,770 Didn't anybody have to say, "We're about to cut." 652 00:38:35,546 --> 00:38:38,413 Franklin: We did what we called head sessions at that time, 653 00:38:38,549 --> 00:38:42,110 and there was no real music written for it. 654 00:38:42,286 --> 00:38:45,449 The musicians would just listen to what it was I was doing, 655 00:38:45,623 --> 00:38:50,390 and then they would decide what they were going to do around that. 656 00:38:50,528 --> 00:38:53,463 I think we heard a little demo of this song, 657 00:38:53,631 --> 00:38:55,394 Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You. 658 00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:58,661 Penn: To me it sounded pretty much like junk. 659 00:38:58,836 --> 00:39:00,963 I'm thinking, "That's the song they going to cut?" 660 00:39:01,939 --> 00:39:04,874 There was discussions. Jerry Wexler and Rick. 661 00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:07,773 There was a little confusion and there was a little turmoil. 662 00:39:07,945 --> 00:39:10,413 Everybody was a little uptight. 663 00:39:10,548 --> 00:39:14,211 We can't find a groove, a beat, a place to start. 664 00:39:14,885 --> 00:39:17,251 Penn: They were, just had all these gears working, 665 00:39:17,388 --> 00:39:19,447 but finally it just came to a... 666 00:39:19,590 --> 00:39:21,217 (makes noise) 667 00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:24,787 And suddenly it was really quiet. 668 00:39:26,330 --> 00:39:28,890 They had a song, they had an artist, but nobody knew what to do. 669 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:32,901 Not even all these geniuses. 670 00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:35,232 But out of that quietness came Spooner with... 671 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:38,706 (keyboard music) 672 00:39:40,244 --> 00:39:42,303 And I said, "Hey, Spooner's got it! 673 00:39:42,446 --> 00:39:44,849 That's it." Aretha jumped right on it. 674 00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:50,553 * You're a no good heartbreaker 675 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,781 * You're a liar and you're a cheat 676 00:39:53,924 --> 00:39:56,722 It was cut within 15 to 20 minutes. 677 00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:59,089 You didn't have to ask, "What do you think?" 678 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:00,663 Everybody knew it was a hit. 679 00:40:00,798 --> 00:40:04,495 I think everything came together for Aretha in Muscle Shoals. 680 00:40:04,635 --> 00:40:09,129 They got Aretha to record a much more funky kind of style 681 00:40:09,273 --> 00:40:12,174 in Muscle Shoals. It was really the essence of her. 682 00:40:13,744 --> 00:40:16,304 * 'Cause I ain't never 683 00:40:16,447 --> 00:40:18,210 * I ain't never 684 00:40:18,382 --> 00:40:21,351 * I ain't never, no, no 685 00:40:21,485 --> 00:40:26,821 * Loved a man the way that l, I love you 686 00:40:26,957 --> 00:40:29,949 Franklin: Coming to Muscle Shoals was the turning point. 687 00:40:30,094 --> 00:40:33,063 That's where I recorded I Never Loved a Man, 688 00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:36,495 which became my first million-selling record. 689 00:40:36,634 --> 00:40:40,001 So absolutely it was a milestone 690 00:40:40,137 --> 00:40:42,833 and the turning point in my career. 691 00:40:44,308 --> 00:40:46,435 * Oh, oh, oh 692 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:48,305 * Yeah 693 00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:50,846 * Yeah 694 00:40:50,981 --> 00:40:52,676 * I ain't never loved a man 695 00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:56,082 We cut I Never Loved a Man, which people to this day 696 00:40:56,253 --> 00:40:59,984 still regard as being maybe her most soulful 697 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:01,853 and really funkiest record. 698 00:41:01,992 --> 00:41:04,017 * Well, this is what I'm gonna do about it 699 00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:06,790 Woman: That's one of those songs, 700 00:41:06,997 --> 00:41:08,897 the ones that give you the chills, 701 00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:11,261 the ones that give you the goose bumps, 702 00:41:11,435 --> 00:41:12,424 the ones that you're like, 703 00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:15,333 "I wish I sang a record like that." 704 00:41:18,976 --> 00:41:22,412 We had a whole week planned to cut tracks, a whole week, 705 00:41:22,546 --> 00:41:24,480 but at the end of the session 706 00:41:24,648 --> 00:41:28,015 we found out that there was a problem. 707 00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:30,052 There was a ruckus. 708 00:41:30,187 --> 00:41:31,620 One of the horn players, 709 00:41:31,789 --> 00:41:35,452 and Aretha's then husband, Ted White, got into it. 710 00:41:36,727 --> 00:41:39,594 This new horn player started saying things like, 711 00:41:39,730 --> 00:41:43,029 "Aretha, baby," and it was just enough 712 00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:45,897 that Ted White got offended. 713 00:41:46,036 --> 00:41:48,231 Wexler: They'd been drinking from the same jug, 714 00:41:48,372 --> 00:41:51,239 and now this camaraderie and great palship 715 00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:55,471 turned into some kind of alcoholic hostility. 716 00:41:55,646 --> 00:41:58,581 Hall: Ted comes into the control room with Wexler and I and says, 717 00:41:58,716 --> 00:42:03,210 "I want the trumpet player fired." I looked at Wexler and said, 718 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:06,084 "What do you think?" He said, "Go fire him." 719 00:42:06,223 --> 00:42:07,690 So I went and fired him. 720 00:42:08,592 --> 00:42:13,120 That later caused a big argument and caused the session to end. 721 00:42:14,131 --> 00:42:15,530 I got a hold of the bottle of vodka 722 00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:17,929 and I took a couple... three drinks of it. 723 00:42:18,068 --> 00:42:20,400 And I said, "Wexler, I'm going to go over to the hotel 724 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:25,942 and get with Ted and them and we'll work this thing out." 725 00:42:26,076 --> 00:42:27,976 He said, "No, I don't want you to go." 726 00:42:28,145 --> 00:42:30,306 And I said, "Yeah, well, I'm not going to start any trouble," 727 00:42:30,481 --> 00:42:31,846 I said, "I'll go over and work it out. 728 00:42:32,016 --> 00:42:34,849 We'll become buddies and I'll work everything out." 729 00:42:35,019 --> 00:42:37,180 He said, "No, Rick, don't go, please don't go." 730 00:42:39,156 --> 00:42:41,624 So anyhow, I had had a couple more drinks 731 00:42:41,759 --> 00:42:43,488 and I went over then. 732 00:42:49,934 --> 00:42:53,267 Banged on Ted and Aretha's door and Ted came to the door. 733 00:42:53,404 --> 00:42:55,838 And he started pointing his finger in my face and so forth. 734 00:42:55,973 --> 00:42:57,964 And we fought and fought and fought. 735 00:42:58,108 --> 00:42:59,803 He was trying to throw me over the balcony 736 00:42:59,944 --> 00:43:01,707 and I was trying to throw him. It was downtown, 737 00:43:01,879 --> 00:43:03,710 and we was up on about the fourth floor. 738 00:43:07,051 --> 00:43:11,112 Franklin: My former husband never came back that night 739 00:43:11,255 --> 00:43:13,746 and I decided that I was leaving. 740 00:43:13,924 --> 00:43:16,051 I had never been to Muscle Shoals before, 741 00:43:16,226 --> 00:43:18,558 or away from home, really, by myself. 742 00:43:18,729 --> 00:43:20,697 And so I just said, "I'm going to the airport." 743 00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:24,699 And when I got to the airport, I saw him with the bell captain. 744 00:43:24,835 --> 00:43:29,033 I said, "Whoa, this son of a gun was going to leave me down here." 745 00:43:29,206 --> 00:43:30,138 Unbelievable. 746 00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:36,671 Hall: They left town the next day, early. 747 00:43:36,814 --> 00:43:38,907 So Wexler came and said to me, 748 00:43:39,083 --> 00:43:42,348 "I will never set foot in this studio as long as I live again. 749 00:43:42,486 --> 00:43:44,681 I will bury you." 750 00:43:44,822 --> 00:43:47,017 And I said, "You can't bury me." He said, "Why can't I?" 751 00:43:47,157 --> 00:43:49,216 I said, "Because you're too old. 752 00:43:49,393 --> 00:43:51,020 I'll be around after you're gone." 753 00:43:56,233 --> 00:43:59,327 So the next day I showed up and on the board it says, 754 00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,529 "Session Cancelled." 755 00:44:01,672 --> 00:44:05,233 And I thought, "Oh, man, it's over, we've had it." 756 00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:09,078 But a few days later Jerry Wexler calls 757 00:44:09,246 --> 00:44:11,373 and asks if we can go to New York 758 00:44:11,515 --> 00:44:13,176 and finish the album there. 759 00:44:13,984 --> 00:44:15,918 He didn't have to ask us twice. 760 00:44:20,024 --> 00:44:24,427 On that album was R-E-S-P-E-C-T, Respect. 761 00:44:25,262 --> 00:44:27,230 * What you want 762 00:44:27,364 --> 00:44:29,423 * Baby, I got it 763 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,058 Hawkins: To be a part of something like that is unbelievable. 764 00:44:33,203 --> 00:44:35,296 It was milestone stuff. 765 00:44:35,472 --> 00:44:37,770 * Is for a little respect when you come home 766 00:44:37,908 --> 00:44:40,399 - * Just a little bit - * Hey, baby 767 00:44:40,544 --> 00:44:42,978 - * When you get home - * Just a little bit 768 00:44:43,147 --> 00:44:45,911 - * Mister - * Just a little bit 769 00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:48,450 Hood: The Swampers went on and recorded with Aretha 770 00:44:48,619 --> 00:44:49,586 on many hit records. 771 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,154 Franklin: Sweet, Sweet Baby, Natural Woman, 772 00:44:52,322 --> 00:44:54,415 Think, The House that Jack Built, 773 00:44:54,558 --> 00:44:57,152 Call Me, Do Right Woman, Do Right Man, 774 00:44:57,327 --> 00:45:00,319 Chain of Fools, and so many, many others. 775 00:45:01,832 --> 00:45:03,925 Of course it worked out incredibly. 776 00:45:04,068 --> 00:45:06,229 And it's been one of the anomalies, I think, 777 00:45:06,370 --> 00:45:10,170 of the era that Aretha's greatest work 778 00:45:10,340 --> 00:45:12,501 came with a studio full of Caucasian musicians. 779 00:45:12,676 --> 00:45:13,665 How do you figure it? 780 00:45:13,844 --> 00:45:15,709 This is the Queen of Soul acknowledged. 781 00:45:15,879 --> 00:45:17,972 Here we have Roger Hawkins, 782 00:45:18,115 --> 00:45:20,049 and David Hood, Jimmy Johnson, 783 00:45:20,217 --> 00:45:22,708 Barry Beckett, Spooner Oldham, 784 00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:24,478 coming out with probably the deepest 785 00:45:24,655 --> 00:45:27,180 and most intense R & B of the era. 786 00:45:27,357 --> 00:45:31,020 * R-E-S-P-E-C-T, Find out what it means to me 787 00:45:31,195 --> 00:45:34,995 * R-E-S-P-E-C-T, take care T-C-B 788 00:45:35,132 --> 00:45:36,793 * Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me 789 00:45:36,934 --> 00:45:38,026 * A little respect 790 00:45:38,202 --> 00:45:39,635 * Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me 791 00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:41,829 * Whoa, babe, a little respect 792 00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:43,030 * Just a little bit 793 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:47,074 * I get tired Keep on tryin' 794 00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:49,712 * You're running out of fools and I ain't lyin' 795 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,280 Hall: So after my dispute with Wexler, 796 00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:55,010 he took Aretha away. 797 00:45:55,152 --> 00:45:58,315 And on my part, I felt like I really screwed up. 798 00:45:58,455 --> 00:46:03,085 So I went to Chicago and I spoke to Leonard Chess 799 00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:05,057 'cause he said, "I wonder what I got to do 800 00:46:05,229 --> 00:46:08,721 to get you to do some sides for Chess Records." 801 00:46:08,899 --> 00:46:10,025 I said, "Who do you want me to do?" 802 00:46:10,167 --> 00:46:11,691 He said, "I'd like you to do Etta James." 803 00:46:17,708 --> 00:46:19,573 When I looked at him, I says, "God, Rick Hall. 804 00:46:19,743 --> 00:46:22,075 So this is FAME Recording Studios, 805 00:46:22,246 --> 00:46:25,579 and I'm in Alabama and now this is going to be, 806 00:46:25,749 --> 00:46:27,649 you know, the real thing here. I'm going to get 807 00:46:27,785 --> 00:46:31,016 some of this Alabama mud," all that kind of stuff. 808 00:46:31,155 --> 00:46:36,218 Hall: Etta James is probably one of my favorite chicks of all time. 809 00:46:36,393 --> 00:46:40,193 Leonard said, "You know, Rick, I built my company on her back. 810 00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:44,061 When you think she's singing as good as she can sing, 811 00:46:44,201 --> 00:46:48,661 if you'll kick her ass and wind her up," 812 00:46:48,806 --> 00:46:51,673 he said, "She can rattle the shingles on this studio." 813 00:46:53,177 --> 00:46:56,806 * You thought you hadn't found a good girl 814 00:46:56,980 --> 00:47:00,347 * One to love you and give you the world 815 00:47:00,484 --> 00:47:04,045 Rick Hall was actually the first white man 816 00:47:04,188 --> 00:47:06,884 that I had seen that had that kind of soul, 817 00:47:07,024 --> 00:47:11,358 that was an engineer and was soulful, you know? 818 00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:13,520 Hood: We recorded a Clarence Carter song. 819 00:47:13,664 --> 00:47:15,791 With Clarence it was, Tell Daddy, 820 00:47:15,966 --> 00:47:18,457 but with Etta it was, Tell Mama. 821 00:47:18,635 --> 00:47:22,696 She didn't want to do the song because I think she had a problem 822 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,001 with somebody suggesting to her 823 00:47:25,175 --> 00:47:28,235 that she was going to take care of some man. 824 00:47:28,378 --> 00:47:30,175 I would be so hardheaded and, you know, just, 825 00:47:30,347 --> 00:47:32,315 "Don't tell me nothing," you know? 826 00:47:32,482 --> 00:47:36,316 Hall: She had a temper like a lion. 827 00:47:36,486 --> 00:47:38,954 I said, "If you'll do it for an hour, if it's not happening, 828 00:47:39,089 --> 00:47:40,818 we'll garbage it, we'll throw it in the garbage." 829 00:47:40,991 --> 00:47:45,724 James: I finally realized everything that he used to badger me about, 830 00:47:45,863 --> 00:47:48,093 he was always right. 831 00:47:48,899 --> 00:47:52,494 * Tell mama all about it 832 00:47:52,669 --> 00:47:56,935 * Tell mama what you need 833 00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:58,632 * Tell mama 834 00:47:58,809 --> 00:48:02,336 And, of course, the record was to become a big, big hit on her. 835 00:48:02,512 --> 00:48:06,004 Everybody said that that song raised her from the grave, 836 00:48:06,183 --> 00:48:09,584 you know, and brought her back to prominence. 837 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:13,212 Each time a person went to Muscle Shoals, 838 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:14,982 they came out of there with a hit record. 839 00:48:15,125 --> 00:48:19,221 You had to know that there was something magic in Muscle Shoals. 840 00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:43,477 Man: The spirit of Muscle Shoals 841 00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:49,058 permeates not only the city itself, physically, 842 00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:53,992 but I think the people who came through there. 843 00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:58,463 The place has a soul. 844 00:48:58,602 --> 00:49:00,729 (piano music) 845 00:49:07,577 --> 00:49:10,341 Hall: W.C. Handy was from the Muscle Shoals area 846 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,507 and everyone that knows about the blues 847 00:49:14,651 --> 00:49:17,085 is familiar with W.C. Handy. 848 00:49:22,359 --> 00:49:25,590 Jagger: Well, he's one of the great popularizers of the blues. 849 00:49:25,762 --> 00:49:28,890 Before, it was a kind of gutbucket music 850 00:49:29,032 --> 00:49:31,296 that didn't have a lot of respect. 851 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:35,302 He kind of legitimized the music. 852 00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:39,406 All the bands were playing the same thing, 853 00:49:39,576 --> 00:49:41,441 but no one had written it down. 854 00:49:41,611 --> 00:49:45,047 Well, he was the first one to write it down. 855 00:49:45,182 --> 00:49:47,150 That made him the Father of the Blues, 856 00:49:47,317 --> 00:49:49,080 and made this area famous. 857 00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:56,592 Hall: Sam Phillips was also from the Muscle Shoals area. 858 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,252 And Sam was kind of my tutor and I kind of looked upon him 859 00:50:00,397 --> 00:50:03,332 as being the guy I wanted to be. 860 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:07,470 Bono: Sam Phillips came out of there. 861 00:50:07,637 --> 00:50:09,867 I mean, didn't he invent rock and roll or something? 862 00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:13,238 Man: My dad, Sam Phillips, was the first to record Elvis, 863 00:50:13,377 --> 00:50:17,871 Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison. 864 00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:19,539 But a lot of people don't realize 865 00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:21,708 that he only worked specifically with black artists 866 00:50:21,852 --> 00:50:23,479 in the very beginning. 867 00:50:23,653 --> 00:50:26,178 Well, the basic feeling I had for black artists 868 00:50:26,356 --> 00:50:28,984 of course originated when I was very young 869 00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:30,820 on a farm in Alabama. 870 00:50:32,062 --> 00:50:35,930 I felt a certain spirituality about the black man's music. 871 00:50:36,066 --> 00:50:38,091 And hearing it in the cotton fields, 872 00:50:38,235 --> 00:50:42,137 that made one hell of an impression on me. 873 00:50:43,206 --> 00:50:46,505 Man: Mr. Phillips heard people singing in the fields 874 00:50:46,676 --> 00:50:49,008 and heard trains rumbling through 875 00:50:49,179 --> 00:50:51,170 and the river roaring around the bend 876 00:50:51,348 --> 00:50:53,111 down here in the shoals. 877 00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:56,777 It's a subconscious rhythm that gets in your head. 878 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,820 There's like a groove, there's a pocket 879 00:50:58,989 --> 00:51:01,924 that sticks in your gut. 880 00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:03,390 It's connected all of us. 881 00:51:08,231 --> 00:51:11,598 Carter: Helen Keller was from Muscle Shoals, 882 00:51:11,735 --> 00:51:14,329 and it was just always amazing to me 883 00:51:14,471 --> 00:51:19,966 the things she was able to accomplish being blind and deaf. 884 00:51:23,246 --> 00:51:26,477 White: Helen Keller was deaf, completely mute, 885 00:51:26,616 --> 00:51:28,345 completely blind. 886 00:51:28,485 --> 00:51:30,646 And her only way of communicating with the world 887 00:51:30,787 --> 00:51:33,085 is with gestures. 888 00:51:34,858 --> 00:51:37,986 You can still go to her house and see the well 889 00:51:38,128 --> 00:51:40,892 where she learned her first word, 890 00:51:41,064 --> 00:51:42,326 which was "water." 891 00:51:43,433 --> 00:51:45,731 Keys: There's obviously an incredible connection 892 00:51:45,902 --> 00:51:48,234 to water here. 893 00:51:48,405 --> 00:51:51,670 So you can see why that would be the first word 894 00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:55,801 that Helen Keller learned, "water." 895 00:51:55,946 --> 00:52:00,349 There's such a power in this place, 896 00:52:00,484 --> 00:52:04,887 and you feel it whether you can hear it and see it or not. 897 00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:20,202 I'm a great believer that landscape 898 00:52:20,337 --> 00:52:24,603 is always very important in music, 899 00:52:24,774 --> 00:52:27,937 and somehow music can reflect landscapes. 900 00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:35,046 * Something told me it was over 901 00:52:36,353 --> 00:52:38,913 * Yeah 902 00:52:39,089 --> 00:52:43,389 * When I saw you and her talking 903 00:52:43,527 --> 00:52:47,088 People ask me always, "What is the Muscle Shoals sound?" 904 00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:48,959 Carter: You had a lot of black musicians 905 00:52:49,132 --> 00:52:51,259 playing with a lot of white musicians, 906 00:52:51,401 --> 00:52:53,232 and we all got a different way of playing, 907 00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:55,395 but it blends so well together. 908 00:52:55,539 --> 00:52:58,508 There was this coming together of styles. 909 00:52:58,675 --> 00:53:00,973 Oldham: And there was some hillbilly background there, 910 00:53:01,144 --> 00:53:02,873 there's some black music. 911 00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:06,449 We were open minded to be any genre. 912 00:53:07,684 --> 00:53:09,618 * Ooh 913 00:53:09,786 --> 00:53:13,984 * I would rather, I would rather go blind, boy 914 00:53:18,562 --> 00:53:23,261 * Than to see you walk away from me, child 915 00:53:25,368 --> 00:53:26,596 * Hoo 916 00:53:26,736 --> 00:53:28,203 Hood: The Muscle Shoals sound, I think, 917 00:53:28,371 --> 00:53:33,331 has a very heavy bass and drum featured in the sound. 918 00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:36,343 And it just, that was what sounded right to us. 919 00:53:36,513 --> 00:53:38,344 "Turn up the bass, turn up the drums." 920 00:53:38,515 --> 00:53:42,178 Bono: This was, at the time, cutting edge technology. 921 00:53:42,352 --> 00:53:45,981 The fact that a drum kit could be close-mic'd 922 00:53:46,156 --> 00:53:48,522 meant that they could turn up the bass drum. 923 00:53:48,692 --> 00:53:52,628 That's what created that blacker sound, that African sound, 924 00:53:52,762 --> 00:53:56,220 that allowed you to be sweet on the topsoil 925 00:53:56,399 --> 00:53:58,367 but knowing that deep down in the ground 926 00:53:58,535 --> 00:54:00,298 there was some fierceness. 927 00:54:00,437 --> 00:54:01,961 * Ooh 928 00:54:02,105 --> 00:54:05,802 * I was just, I was just 929 00:54:05,942 --> 00:54:09,241 * I was just sittin' here thinkin' 930 00:54:09,412 --> 00:54:11,039 * Ooh 931 00:54:11,214 --> 00:54:15,878 * Of your kiss and your warm embrace, yeah 932 00:54:16,052 --> 00:54:18,885 Hall: Woo, come on, there. 933 00:54:19,055 --> 00:54:21,387 (horn honking) 934 00:54:21,558 --> 00:54:23,788 Woo! Woo! 935 00:54:28,765 --> 00:54:30,255 Hall: When I was a young boy, 936 00:54:30,433 --> 00:54:32,526 my mother was washing clothes 937 00:54:32,669 --> 00:54:36,196 out in the yard with a wash pot. 938 00:54:36,339 --> 00:54:40,571 And the pot had boiling hot water in it. 939 00:54:40,744 --> 00:54:43,042 My brother, who was three years old, 940 00:54:43,213 --> 00:54:46,273 was playing in the backyard with my first cousin, 941 00:54:46,449 --> 00:54:48,747 and they were pulling on a stick. 942 00:54:48,918 --> 00:54:50,283 My brother ran backwards 943 00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:52,819 and fell into the pot of scalding water. 944 00:54:56,526 --> 00:54:58,858 So my mother took him in her arms 945 00:54:58,995 --> 00:55:00,895 and went screaming across the field 946 00:55:01,064 --> 00:55:02,861 hunting my father. 947 00:55:02,999 --> 00:55:06,230 He came running and they took him to the doctor 948 00:55:06,369 --> 00:55:09,065 in Red Bay, Alabama. 949 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,866 And they took his clothes off 950 00:55:11,007 --> 00:55:15,273 and all of his skin came off inside of his clothes. 951 00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:21,282 He died three days later. 952 00:55:24,621 --> 00:55:26,418 That was the start of the decline 953 00:55:26,556 --> 00:55:30,014 between my father's and my mother's relationship. 954 00:55:33,096 --> 00:55:36,065 He kind of blamed her for the accident, 955 00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:39,134 and she probably blamed him for not being at home. 956 00:55:42,372 --> 00:55:44,306 She left us and said, 957 00:55:44,474 --> 00:55:47,807 "I'll never live with you again," and, "Forget about me." 958 00:55:50,513 --> 00:55:56,748 She moved in with Aunt Ess who ran a red-light district. 959 00:56:00,290 --> 00:56:05,318 So my father asked people what she was doing up here. 960 00:56:05,495 --> 00:56:08,760 And they said, "Well, Herman, 961 00:56:08,898 --> 00:56:12,595 you know what the other girls are doing?" 962 00:56:12,736 --> 00:56:14,829 And he said, "Yes, I do." 963 00:56:15,004 --> 00:56:19,532 And they said, "Dolly is doing the same thing." 964 00:56:23,246 --> 00:56:25,373 It was earth-shattering for me. 965 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:33,314 Even after all these years and being away from her 966 00:56:33,456 --> 00:56:37,654 and not spending much time with her in my life, 967 00:56:37,794 --> 00:56:40,820 not a day goes by that I don't really miss my mother. 968 00:56:50,473 --> 00:56:51,872 More acoustic guitar. 969 00:57:00,016 --> 00:57:02,541 * I ain't easy to love 970 00:57:05,655 --> 00:57:08,647 * Scars have made me black and blue 971 00:57:12,195 --> 00:57:14,595 * But I feel a lot less broken 972 00:57:14,764 --> 00:57:16,197 Okay, all right, hold on. 973 00:57:16,366 --> 00:57:18,334 There's too much happening. 974 00:57:18,468 --> 00:57:20,732 I just need the intro and everybody needs to cool it 975 00:57:20,904 --> 00:57:22,599 a little bit and back off. 976 00:57:22,772 --> 00:57:24,330 If everybody comes in from the top, 977 00:57:24,474 --> 00:57:25,998 where are you going to go from there? 978 00:57:26,142 --> 00:57:28,702 If you get a chance or two to cut a record, 979 00:57:28,845 --> 00:57:30,676 produce a record and get a budget to do it with 980 00:57:30,814 --> 00:57:34,250 and you don't have a hit, you will never get another call. 981 00:57:34,417 --> 00:57:41,050 So I was always aware of that. I always felt that every record, 982 00:57:41,224 --> 00:57:43,055 my life depended on it. 983 00:57:43,226 --> 00:57:46,718 Time is like, "time." It's like you're whispering that part. 984 00:57:46,863 --> 00:57:49,696 All right. You know, I can always do mine over. 985 00:57:49,833 --> 00:57:51,698 I know we can, honey, but I like to do it this way. 986 00:57:51,835 --> 00:57:54,326 - All right. - Staton: Rick is so meticulous. 987 00:57:54,471 --> 00:57:58,635 Oh, it's just a joy and pain to work with Rick. 988 00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:02,335 'Cause he won't stop until he gets what he wants. 989 00:58:02,479 --> 00:58:05,414 If it takes three days on one song, 990 00:58:05,548 --> 00:58:07,015 Rick's going to get what he wants. 991 00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:08,879 We're doing just what we just got through doing. 992 00:58:09,018 --> 00:58:11,543 We're doing the same thing over again, 993 00:58:11,688 --> 00:58:14,555 and I just want to perfect it a little better. 994 00:58:14,691 --> 00:58:16,659 We've changed a couple of things, so you got to listen. 995 00:58:16,826 --> 00:58:19,386 Hood: Rick was a very demanding boss. 996 00:58:19,529 --> 00:58:24,728 He would take a thousand takes of something till he was satisfied. 997 00:58:24,868 --> 00:58:28,099 And sometimes he would not know what he was looking for, 998 00:58:28,271 --> 00:58:30,262 but he would keep working until he got it. 999 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,032 Hall: I'm talking about... it's too bright. 1000 00:58:32,175 --> 00:58:34,143 Oh, okay, I thought you were... wanted it bright. 1001 00:58:34,310 --> 00:58:36,107 Well, I did want it bright until I heard it. 1002 00:58:36,279 --> 00:58:38,372 When you hear it with the track it's a whole different thing. 1003 00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:39,982 You got to listen to it in perspective. 1004 00:58:40,149 --> 00:58:42,583 That was very frustrating and hard on the musicians 1005 00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:44,619 because you think, "Well, I already did that." 1006 00:58:44,754 --> 00:58:47,052 Nobody ever worked in the music business 1007 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:49,454 without getting their ass kicked. 1008 00:58:49,592 --> 00:58:51,150 If they did, they're on the street somewhere 1009 00:58:51,327 --> 00:58:54,160 pushing a wheelbarrow of concrete. 1010 00:58:54,330 --> 00:58:56,457 Boyce: He was kind of like a task master, 1011 00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:57,793 and I don't fault him for that 1012 00:58:57,934 --> 00:59:01,870 because he is an imperfect perfectionist. 1013 00:59:02,038 --> 00:59:03,403 That's what made him great, though. 1014 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,175 * Oh, please forgive me, darlin' 1015 00:59:10,046 --> 00:59:14,346 * I ain't easy to love 1016 00:59:16,185 --> 00:59:19,882 (guitar music) 1017 00:59:25,762 --> 00:59:27,821 Hall: Duane Allman, of course, came into Muscle Shoals 1018 00:59:27,964 --> 00:59:29,488 and wanted a gig. 1019 00:59:29,632 --> 00:59:31,862 So he put up his pup tent on my parking lot 1020 00:59:32,035 --> 00:59:36,096 at the studio and found me. I gave him his shot. 1021 00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:37,570 Hood: When Duane showed up, 1022 00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:39,537 he was probably one of the first guys 1023 00:59:39,709 --> 00:59:42,041 with long hair and kind of the hippie look, 1024 00:59:42,211 --> 00:59:43,678 but what really made him stand out 1025 00:59:43,813 --> 00:59:45,804 was he was a wonderful guitar player. 1026 00:59:55,992 --> 00:59:58,187 Hall: I had never heard a slide guitar 1027 00:59:58,361 --> 00:59:59,885 played like Duane Allman could play it. 1028 01:00:02,732 --> 01:00:04,563 Hood: Duane had been in Los Angeles, 1029 01:00:04,734 --> 01:00:08,397 had a group called The Hourglass with his brother Gregg. 1030 01:00:08,571 --> 01:00:10,766 Man: They signed us on this big contract, 1031 01:00:10,940 --> 01:00:13,067 and they wouldn't let us play anywhere. 1032 01:00:13,242 --> 01:00:16,143 I think the first year we were there we played like three concerts. 1033 01:00:16,279 --> 01:00:18,042 So he finally said, "Hey, I've had it with this place. 1034 01:00:18,214 --> 01:00:19,875 I'm leaving." 1035 01:00:20,016 --> 01:00:22,610 And he wound up in Muscle Shoals. 1036 01:00:22,785 --> 01:00:25,481 But right before he left, 1037 01:00:25,622 --> 01:00:27,590 I talked him into going horseback riding with me 1038 01:00:27,757 --> 01:00:29,054 'cause we weren't doing anything. 1039 01:00:29,225 --> 01:00:30,624 Finally went out there and I said, 1040 01:00:30,793 --> 01:00:33,523 "Listen, we go from the barn out to the field. 1041 01:00:33,663 --> 01:00:36,223 We got to cross a paved road." 1042 01:00:36,399 --> 01:00:38,594 I said, "The horse is shod." He says, "What?" 1043 01:00:38,768 --> 01:00:40,429 "It's got shoes on, you know? 1044 01:00:40,603 --> 01:00:43,333 And if he slips, he'll bust both of your butts, 1045 01:00:43,473 --> 01:00:47,341 so don't give him any reins." And guess what happened? 1046 01:00:47,477 --> 01:00:49,911 And he hit right here. 1047 01:00:50,046 --> 01:00:51,775 He couldn't play. 1048 01:00:51,948 --> 01:00:54,109 And he wouldn't let me in his house for about six weeks. 1049 01:00:54,283 --> 01:00:55,978 And, I mean, that was... that was terrible 1050 01:00:56,152 --> 01:00:58,450 'cause, I mean, you know, growing up without a father, 1051 01:00:58,621 --> 01:01:00,885 he was somewhat of a father figure to me 1052 01:01:01,024 --> 01:01:04,221 even though he was only a year and 18 days older. 1053 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,885 So it came his birthday, November the 20th, 1054 01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:10,090 and I went out and bought the first Taj Mahal record 1055 01:01:10,266 --> 01:01:12,598 and a bottle of Coricidin pills. 1056 01:01:12,735 --> 01:01:15,465 He had this cold and he had his arm in a sling. 1057 01:01:15,638 --> 01:01:17,367 He was pissed off at the world, 1058 01:01:17,507 --> 01:01:19,668 and I did what I could do. 1059 01:01:19,842 --> 01:01:21,104 I put it down in front of his door, 1060 01:01:21,277 --> 01:01:22,642 I had it wrapped up and everything. 1061 01:01:22,812 --> 01:01:24,746 And I knocked on the door and ran. 1062 01:01:24,881 --> 01:01:27,281 (blues guitar) 1063 01:01:32,021 --> 01:01:34,455 I guess about two and a half hours later 1064 01:01:34,624 --> 01:01:36,649 my phone rings and it's him. 1065 01:01:36,826 --> 01:01:39,590 He says, "Get over here, baybrah, quick!" 1066 01:01:39,729 --> 01:01:45,031 And "baybrah," he called me that, "baby brother," 1067 01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:48,170 endearing handle he had for me. 1068 01:01:51,074 --> 01:01:53,167 He said, "Man, check this out." 1069 01:01:53,342 --> 01:01:55,105 He had been listening to Jesse Ed Davis 1070 01:01:55,244 --> 01:01:57,712 play Taj Mahal and he's playing slide. 1071 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,315 He said, "Man, I dumped out all them pills, 1072 01:02:06,489 --> 01:02:09,014 and I washed the label off the bottle." 1073 01:02:09,192 --> 01:02:11,786 He said, "Check this out." He's got his hand still in the sling 1074 01:02:11,928 --> 01:02:14,328 and he's going... you know, 1075 01:02:14,497 --> 01:02:18,024 and he's just already killing it, you know? 1076 01:02:25,675 --> 01:02:29,202 I've still got that bottle, by the way, somehow. 1077 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,272 Hood: When Duane came here, 1078 01:02:32,415 --> 01:02:35,475 he was on the Wilson Pickett session that we did. 1079 01:02:35,618 --> 01:02:39,145 Johnson: There was always a slight problem when we would go out, 1080 01:02:39,288 --> 01:02:41,449 all of us white boys with a black artist, 1081 01:02:41,591 --> 01:02:45,186 that we would get looks, okay? 1082 01:02:45,361 --> 01:02:47,852 But there was nothing as bad as going out 1083 01:02:47,997 --> 01:02:51,626 with a long-haired hippie with us white boys. 1084 01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,862 They couldn't stand that, right? 1085 01:02:55,004 --> 01:02:57,905 And so both of them stayed back. 1086 01:02:58,074 --> 01:02:59,405 So, they went on lunch break 1087 01:02:59,575 --> 01:03:02,339 and my brother went up to Wilson and he said, 1088 01:03:02,478 --> 01:03:05,242 "Man, why don't you cut Hey Jude, 1089 01:03:05,414 --> 01:03:06,847 you know, that Beatles song?" 1090 01:03:06,983 --> 01:03:10,248 Pickett: And at that point, I was mostly trying to create 1091 01:03:10,419 --> 01:03:13,752 an original career Wilson Pickett, right? My songs. 1092 01:03:13,923 --> 01:03:17,415 Pickett and l, in unison, both said, "Look, are you crazy? 1093 01:03:17,593 --> 01:03:19,356 We're going to cover the Beatles?" 1094 01:03:20,396 --> 01:03:22,557 And of course Duane said, "Exactly." 1095 01:03:22,732 --> 01:03:26,133 While we were gone, Duane changed our whole session. 1096 01:03:26,302 --> 01:03:30,864 * Just remember to let her under your skin 1097 01:03:31,007 --> 01:03:32,406 When you get to the vamp, 1098 01:03:32,575 --> 01:03:37,274 it goes into just an unbelievable groove. 1099 01:03:37,446 --> 01:03:39,277 * Ow 1100 01:03:39,448 --> 01:03:40,506 * Ah 1101 01:03:40,650 --> 01:03:43,118 * Ahhh 1102 01:03:43,286 --> 01:03:45,914 * Oh oh ooh 1103 01:03:46,055 --> 01:03:48,580 * Hey, Jude 1104 01:03:48,758 --> 01:03:50,623 * Ahh 1105 01:03:50,793 --> 01:03:55,730 Johnson: Duane Allman was playing such great guitar fills 1106 01:03:55,865 --> 01:03:59,392 that something happened in that vamp. 1107 01:03:59,535 --> 01:04:02,800 * Ahh, hey 1108 01:04:02,972 --> 01:04:06,430 And all of a sudden, there was southern rock. 1109 01:04:06,609 --> 01:04:09,100 * Gonna be all right 1110 01:04:11,547 --> 01:04:14,277 That was the beginnings of The Allman Brother Band. 1111 01:04:16,786 --> 01:04:18,947 Allman: Jaimoe met my brother first. 1112 01:04:19,088 --> 01:04:20,715 The two of them got together. 1113 01:04:20,857 --> 01:04:23,724 Man: When I met Duane, he had a cabin he lived in 1114 01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,794 down on the river in Muscle Shoals. 1115 01:04:25,928 --> 01:04:29,557 And it was like... Well, it was a nice place down there. 1116 01:04:30,366 --> 01:04:33,096 Allman: In his spare time, he would do a lot of fishing. 1117 01:04:33,903 --> 01:04:35,564 Muscle Shoals seemed to be 1118 01:04:35,705 --> 01:04:37,673 the place for him to be at that time. 1119 01:04:39,175 --> 01:04:40,608 Jaimoe: He would do sessions. 1120 01:04:40,743 --> 01:04:42,142 And I would sit over with them at practice. 1121 01:04:42,278 --> 01:04:43,745 And when he would get through the session, 1122 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,041 he'd roll his amplifier over there 1123 01:04:46,215 --> 01:04:48,046 and the two of us would play. 1124 01:04:48,217 --> 01:04:51,186 And then, when Berry Oakley came down... 1125 01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:52,753 (whistles) 1126 01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:58,225 Boy, the three of us had never played music like that. 1127 01:04:58,394 --> 01:05:00,988 But that was pretty much the base of what turned out to be 1128 01:05:01,130 --> 01:05:02,358 The Allman Brothers Band. 1129 01:05:07,770 --> 01:05:10,000 Hall: Duane said, "Well, Rick, this is the kind of music 1130 01:05:10,139 --> 01:05:11,629 that's coming in, this is going to be big again. 1131 01:05:11,774 --> 01:05:13,173 The kids are really liking this stuff." 1132 01:05:13,309 --> 01:05:16,506 And I said, "Yeah, don't breathe on me, Duane, back off." 1133 01:05:21,417 --> 01:05:24,045 I never believed him and I told Phil Walden, 1134 01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:26,450 "I don't understand this." They're sleeping in the studio all day 1135 01:05:26,589 --> 01:05:29,023 under quilts and things, and I wake up Duane and he says, 1136 01:05:29,158 --> 01:05:31,353 "Man, you know, the stars and the moon 1137 01:05:31,527 --> 01:05:34,018 are not quite lined up right." I'm not into all that. 1138 01:05:34,163 --> 01:05:36,154 He said, "Well, hang in there, man. 1139 01:05:36,299 --> 01:05:38,233 Turn on the machines and let them run 1140 01:05:38,401 --> 01:05:40,460 and eventually you're gonna make a billion dollars." 1141 01:05:43,906 --> 01:05:46,101 I said, "I can't do that, it's not me." 1142 01:05:46,275 --> 01:05:48,675 So I missed the boat on that one. 1143 01:05:56,452 --> 01:05:58,352 (train whistle blowing) 1144 01:06:04,794 --> 01:06:07,888 (keyboard plays) 1145 01:06:10,433 --> 01:06:11,957 Sledge: Time, old time. 1146 01:06:17,673 --> 01:06:20,665 Things change it, you know. 1147 01:06:20,810 --> 01:06:23,540 I never will forget when Jimi Hendrix 1148 01:06:23,679 --> 01:06:26,705 played behind me on Broadway. 1149 01:06:27,483 --> 01:06:30,782 He was playing in the band with King Curtis, and I told King, 1150 01:06:30,953 --> 01:06:33,581 "I think I'm going to steal that guitar player you got." 1151 01:06:33,756 --> 01:06:35,724 He said, "Percy Sledge, that guy there 1152 01:06:35,858 --> 01:06:37,587 is going to be so big in the next year or two." 1153 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,059 He said, "I can't keep him and you won't be able to keep him either." 1154 01:06:41,764 --> 01:06:44,858 When Jimi came out with his style of music, 1155 01:06:45,001 --> 01:06:48,801 well, our style of music kind of slacked back. 1156 01:06:53,042 --> 01:06:55,340 Time always changes organizations 1157 01:06:55,511 --> 01:06:58,309 and things that you're doing in life. 1158 01:07:04,253 --> 01:07:09,088 Johnson: Things happened in our world that changed everything. 1159 01:07:09,225 --> 01:07:11,989 We decided to become entrepreneurs 1160 01:07:12,161 --> 01:07:13,594 and become studio owners. 1161 01:07:13,729 --> 01:07:16,095 So we had to tell Rick, 1162 01:07:16,232 --> 01:07:20,931 who was our mentor and friend and who had gave us our chance. 1163 01:07:21,070 --> 01:07:23,937 We elected Roger to go break the news to him. 1164 01:07:24,073 --> 01:07:28,772 Hall: I had gone to L.A. to try to make a new deal with Capitol Records. 1165 01:07:28,911 --> 01:07:31,675 We made a great deal and things were really exciting, 1166 01:07:31,847 --> 01:07:35,283 and I came back and had a meeting with the Swampers. 1167 01:07:35,418 --> 01:07:37,648 We were supposed to come up and sign the contract 1168 01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:39,287 and be exclusive to Rick. 1169 01:07:39,422 --> 01:07:41,356 Rick's office is upstairs 1170 01:07:41,524 --> 01:07:44,049 and we're just kind of looking at each other like, 1171 01:07:44,226 --> 01:07:47,218 "Oh, my God, we got to go up those stairs." 1172 01:07:48,764 --> 01:07:53,394 Up the stairs we go, knock on the door. 1173 01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:56,470 Everybody's quiet. 1174 01:07:56,605 --> 01:07:58,835 I began to tell them of this great new deal 1175 01:07:59,008 --> 01:08:00,839 we'd made with Capitol. 1176 01:08:01,010 --> 01:08:03,342 I'm looking at them like, "Come on, guys, help me." 1177 01:08:03,479 --> 01:08:04,878 And they're just like... 1178 01:08:05,047 --> 01:08:06,537 One of the guys stopped me and said, 1179 01:08:06,715 --> 01:08:08,683 "We've already made a deal with Jerry Wexler 1180 01:08:08,851 --> 01:08:13,015 and he is going to build us a studio across town. 1181 01:08:13,155 --> 01:08:15,623 We'll be leaving here, going with him." 1182 01:08:19,328 --> 01:08:22,491 And when Roger dropped that bomb in that office, 1183 01:08:22,631 --> 01:08:25,156 we were expecting a huge explosion. 1184 01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:30,038 I felt like the whole bottom of my life had fell out. 1185 01:08:31,941 --> 01:08:34,671 It's like we have thrown shit on his dreams. 1186 01:08:34,810 --> 01:08:36,505 Johnson: Do you remember what he said? 1187 01:08:36,645 --> 01:08:38,374 He said, "You're never gonna make it." 1188 01:08:41,150 --> 01:08:43,744 It was war. 1189 01:08:43,919 --> 01:08:44,908 Total war. 1190 01:08:55,297 --> 01:08:58,130 Hood: When we bought the studio, we were very nervous 1191 01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:00,234 about whether or not we would have any hits. 1192 01:09:00,369 --> 01:09:02,303 And you have to have hits to keep recording. 1193 01:09:03,172 --> 01:09:06,938 Hawkins: Jerry came to record at our place, and he brought Cher in, 1194 01:09:07,109 --> 01:09:09,077 and that was our first client. 1195 01:09:09,211 --> 01:09:11,702 Nothing happened, it wasn't any good. 1196 01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:17,912 Six months went by, seven months, almost eight months. 1197 01:09:18,087 --> 01:09:21,955 I think we would have killed for the hit record. 1198 01:09:22,124 --> 01:09:24,752 We always wanted to own a studio and it was like, 1199 01:09:24,927 --> 01:09:27,157 "What the hell have we done?" 1200 01:09:29,765 --> 01:09:33,292 And then all of a sudden, the English rock and roll guys 1201 01:09:33,469 --> 01:09:35,699 started wanting to come to Muscle Shoals. 1202 01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:39,137 When we went to record in Muscle Shoals, it was a lightning visit. 1203 01:09:39,308 --> 01:09:40,468 We just went in there, set up, 1204 01:09:40,643 --> 01:09:43,612 and, you know, played our stuff for a couple of days. 1205 01:09:43,779 --> 01:09:47,909 The sound was in my head before I even got there. 1206 01:09:48,050 --> 01:09:49,142 And then, of course, 1207 01:09:49,318 --> 01:09:52,344 when that actually lives up to it and beyond, 1208 01:09:52,521 --> 01:09:56,287 you know, then you're in rock and roll heaven, man. 1209 01:09:56,425 --> 01:09:59,758 * You got to move 1210 01:09:59,895 --> 01:10:03,490 * You got to move 1211 01:10:03,666 --> 01:10:07,261 * You got to move, child 1212 01:10:07,403 --> 01:10:09,803 * You got to move 1213 01:10:11,373 --> 01:10:13,773 * Oh, when the Lord 1214 01:10:14,843 --> 01:10:17,971 * Get ready 1215 01:10:18,147 --> 01:10:20,615 * You got to move 1216 01:10:20,749 --> 01:10:24,344 The first thing we did was a blues tune, You Got To Move. 1217 01:10:25,454 --> 01:10:28,184 Richards: We're down in Alabama, you know, in Muscle Shoals, 1218 01:10:28,357 --> 01:10:31,383 we've got to cut some Fred McDowell stuff. 1219 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,120 If ever I'm going to do it, it's got to be here, you know, 1220 01:10:34,263 --> 01:10:38,393 and we're probably soaking up the Indian maiden, too. 1221 01:10:39,401 --> 01:10:42,495 * Get ready 1222 01:10:42,638 --> 01:10:44,765 * You got to move 1223 01:10:45,941 --> 01:10:48,205 We don't come from here, but we know quite a bit 1224 01:10:48,377 --> 01:10:51,813 about the Deep South. From here. 1225 01:10:53,582 --> 01:10:55,812 Johnson: Their producer did not show. 1226 01:10:55,951 --> 01:10:58,351 And it wound up I became the engineer. 1227 01:10:58,487 --> 01:11:01,581 And I was thinking, "Oh, man, can you believe this?" 1228 01:11:01,757 --> 01:11:04,248 Because right when they come in, you know, you're... 1229 01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:06,394 Yeah, but that's there, it doesn't come in till the solo. 1230 01:11:06,562 --> 01:11:07,654 No, I know. 1231 01:11:07,796 --> 01:11:09,787 Johnson: But I must point something out here, 1232 01:11:09,932 --> 01:11:12,992 that nobody was drinking and nobody was drugging. 1233 01:11:14,670 --> 01:11:17,070 Well... (chuckles) 1234 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,668 * You got to move 1235 01:11:22,077 --> 01:11:24,568 (tape rewinding) 1236 01:11:24,747 --> 01:11:26,612 Jagger: I think we were drinking quite a lot. 1237 01:11:26,782 --> 01:11:28,044 I'm sure there were lots of drinking 1238 01:11:28,217 --> 01:11:30,242 and smoking marijuana and so on. 1239 01:11:30,419 --> 01:11:31,818 Well, you know, I mean, 1240 01:11:31,954 --> 01:11:34,752 you put it on a scale of what, you know? 1241 01:11:34,923 --> 01:11:37,050 That was recording in those days, 1242 01:11:37,226 --> 01:11:38,386 that was part of it. 1243 01:11:38,527 --> 01:11:41,587 But otherwise it was a lot of serious work as well. 1244 01:11:41,764 --> 01:11:45,063 And once we knew the room was tuned to us 1245 01:11:45,234 --> 01:11:48,260 and we were tuned to the room, then it became, you know, 1246 01:11:48,437 --> 01:11:52,100 "Right, let's get as much done here as we possibly can," you know? 1247 01:11:53,942 --> 01:11:55,307 Jagger: Keith had this tune Wild Horses, 1248 01:11:55,477 --> 01:11:57,172 but I don't think that was really finished. 1249 01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:59,406 He had a chorus, but that was about it. 1250 01:11:59,548 --> 01:12:01,243 So that was all written on the spot. 1251 01:12:01,383 --> 01:12:02,782 It was just an idea, 1252 01:12:02,951 --> 01:12:06,011 and it had to go to the bathroom for a little while, 1253 01:12:06,155 --> 01:12:08,020 just to sort of figure it out. 1254 01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:10,091 And then say, "Okay, I'm ready." 1255 01:12:10,259 --> 01:12:12,955 Back in, and then take, you know? 1256 01:12:13,128 --> 01:12:18,031 * Childhood living 1257 01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:25,770 * Is easy to do 1258 01:12:28,377 --> 01:12:34,247 * The things you wanted 1259 01:12:34,383 --> 01:12:37,648 Jagger: Muscle Shoals Studio is in this rather interesting place. 1260 01:12:37,820 --> 01:12:41,813 Being there does inspire you to do it slightly differently. 1261 01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:44,458 Wild Horses is a sort of country song, 1262 01:12:44,593 --> 01:12:46,618 and I remember we used Jim Dickinson, 1263 01:12:46,762 --> 01:12:48,627 he played tack piano. 1264 01:12:48,764 --> 01:12:53,360 * A sin and a lie 1265 01:12:55,871 --> 01:13:00,240 * I have my freedom 1266 01:13:02,411 --> 01:13:06,313 * But I don't have much time 1267 01:13:08,884 --> 01:13:14,720 * Wild horses 1268 01:13:14,890 --> 01:13:19,259 * Couldn't drag me away 1269 01:13:21,597 --> 01:13:27,399 * Wild, wild horses 1270 01:13:27,569 --> 01:13:32,506 * We'll ride them someday 1271 01:13:41,817 --> 01:13:43,751 I thought it was one of the easiest 1272 01:13:43,919 --> 01:13:46,581 and rockingest sessions that we'd ever done. 1273 01:13:46,755 --> 01:13:50,282 I don't think we'd been quite so prolific ever. 1274 01:13:50,426 --> 01:13:52,656 I mean, we cut three, four tracks in two days, 1275 01:13:52,795 --> 01:13:56,424 and that, for the Stones, is going some... 1276 01:14:01,437 --> 01:14:04,338 We left on a high with Brown Sugar. 1277 01:14:04,473 --> 01:14:08,375 We knew we had one of the best things we'd ever done. 1278 01:14:08,510 --> 01:14:10,137 Jagger: The thing about Brown Sugar, it had this sound, 1279 01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:11,871 it was quite distorted. 1280 01:14:12,047 --> 01:14:15,346 It was pretty funky, you know. That was the whole idea of it. 1281 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,214 I always wanted to go back there and cut more. 1282 01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:23,415 Then shit happened, so we ended up in France 1283 01:14:23,592 --> 01:14:25,583 in a basement doing Exile on Main St. There, 1284 01:14:25,761 --> 01:14:29,595 but otherwise, Exile would probably have been cut in Muscle Shoals, 1285 01:14:29,765 --> 01:14:31,460 but politically, it wasn't possible. 1286 01:14:31,633 --> 01:14:34,101 I wasn't allowed in the country at the time. 1287 01:14:34,269 --> 01:14:36,430 So, there's that, you know. 1288 01:14:36,605 --> 01:14:38,539 * Brown sugar 1289 01:14:38,674 --> 01:14:41,074 * How come you taste so good 1290 01:14:44,546 --> 01:14:46,070 * Brown sugar 1291 01:14:46,248 --> 01:14:48,716 * Just like a young girl should 1292 01:14:48,851 --> 01:14:51,376 Those sessions were as vital to me 1293 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,545 as any I've ever done. 1294 01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:56,249 I mean, all this other stuff, 1295 01:14:56,425 --> 01:14:59,485 Beggars Banquet and the other stuff we did, 1296 01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:02,061 Gimme Shelter, Street Fighting Man, 1297 01:15:02,197 --> 01:15:04,188 Jumpin' Jack Flash, you know. 1298 01:15:04,333 --> 01:15:07,496 But I've always wondered 1299 01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:09,466 that if we'd have cut them in Muscle Shoals, 1300 01:15:09,638 --> 01:15:11,765 if they might not have been a little bit funkier. 1301 01:15:19,548 --> 01:15:23,075 * Drums beatin', cold English blood runs hot 1302 01:15:23,218 --> 01:15:26,915 * Lady of the house wonderin' where it's gonna stop 1303 01:15:27,055 --> 01:15:30,513 * House boy knows that he's doing all right 1304 01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:34,856 * You shoulda heard him just around midnight 1305 01:15:44,573 --> 01:15:46,939 (whooshing) 1306 01:15:47,776 --> 01:15:50,802 Hall: So, I got this great new deal with Capitol Records, 1307 01:15:50,946 --> 01:15:54,177 but I've had this feud with Wexler, and he's taken my musicians 1308 01:15:54,349 --> 01:15:58,285 and going across town and going to put me out of business, so he says. 1309 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,147 Ivey: I imagine Rick was pissed. 1310 01:16:00,322 --> 01:16:01,789 Hey, I got this deal. 1311 01:16:01,924 --> 01:16:03,824 Now I don't have a rhythm section. 1312 01:16:04,726 --> 01:16:07,251 Hall: But if Jerry thinks these are the only guys 1313 01:16:07,396 --> 01:16:09,023 left in the world that you can cut hit records on, 1314 01:16:09,197 --> 01:16:11,028 then he's mistaken, because I believed 1315 01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:14,293 that I could cut hit records with any group of musicians. 1316 01:16:16,772 --> 01:16:19,172 We began to call every musician we knew 1317 01:16:19,341 --> 01:16:21,639 and put them under contract. 1318 01:16:25,781 --> 01:16:28,341 Ivey: So, that's why he calls me, get me up there real quick, 1319 01:16:28,517 --> 01:16:29,745 and he said, "Do you know a bass player?" 1320 01:16:29,918 --> 01:16:31,749 I said, "I know a great bass player." 1321 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,581 Boyce: So I started playing, and he said, 1322 01:16:33,755 --> 01:16:35,882 "Do you know of any other rhythm guys?" 1323 01:16:36,058 --> 01:16:38,856 I said, "Yeah, Freeman Brown," 1324 01:16:38,994 --> 01:16:43,454 who became one of the best fat back drummers for Muscle Shoals. 1325 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,327 He said, "And I also need a horn section." 1326 01:16:47,469 --> 01:16:50,370 And I said, "Yeah, there's some guys that I met out of Nashville." 1327 01:16:51,673 --> 01:16:53,573 Thompson: Rick Hall wanted to put a band together 1328 01:16:53,742 --> 01:16:55,539 and call it the "Fame Gang," 1329 01:16:55,677 --> 01:16:57,668 and I ended up being part of that. 1330 01:16:59,748 --> 01:17:02,512 Hall: For me to surround myself with the strongest people I could 1331 01:17:02,651 --> 01:17:04,710 made me a better producer. 1332 01:17:05,954 --> 01:17:08,252 Now, here's what we're going to do, we're going to let him 1333 01:17:08,423 --> 01:17:10,550 play back the tape four or five times in succession, 1334 01:17:10,692 --> 01:17:11,920 I want to work with the horns. 1335 01:17:12,094 --> 01:17:14,722 This is a sad song. 1336 01:17:14,863 --> 01:17:16,558 So don't jive it up too much. 1337 01:17:16,698 --> 01:17:18,188 (imitates horn) 1338 01:17:18,333 --> 01:17:21,564 And take away from the lyrics so it sounds like a dance record. 1339 01:17:21,703 --> 01:17:24,365 The truth is after Barry Beckett, and Jimmy Johnson, 1340 01:17:24,506 --> 01:17:26,440 Roger Hawkins, David Hood left and bought their own studio, 1341 01:17:26,608 --> 01:17:28,576 we come in here with this new rhythm section 1342 01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:31,201 who was not really a studio band yet, 1343 01:17:31,346 --> 01:17:33,814 but 1971, Rick Hall's the producer of the year. 1344 01:17:33,982 --> 01:17:35,916 He didn't have that with the other guys. 1345 01:17:36,051 --> 01:17:37,245 Hall: I started over again, 1346 01:17:37,419 --> 01:17:39,387 and I believed I was as good as anybody. 1347 01:17:39,521 --> 01:17:42,922 Here's Candi Staton to sing her big, big hit on FAME. 1348 01:17:43,058 --> 01:17:46,391 Boyce: At FAME, we experienced a lot of great artists, 1349 01:17:46,528 --> 01:17:48,291 starting with Candi Staton. 1350 01:17:48,463 --> 01:17:50,397 Pretty mama. 1351 01:17:50,532 --> 01:17:51,624 We started to explode. 1352 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,927 The world was coming to Muscle Shoals. 1353 01:17:54,069 --> 01:17:55,969 * You may think I'm silly 1354 01:17:56,138 --> 01:17:58,470 * To love a man twice my age 1355 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,131 * But I know from experience, girls 1356 01:18:01,309 --> 01:18:02,435 * Sometime, it pays 1357 01:18:02,611 --> 01:18:05,079 I did Bobbie Gentry for Capitol Records, 1358 01:18:05,213 --> 01:18:07,807 I did King Curtis, I did Lou Rawls. 1359 01:18:07,983 --> 01:18:10,110 Little Richard, Willie Hightower, 1360 01:18:10,285 --> 01:18:12,014 Mac Davis, Joe Tex. 1361 01:18:12,187 --> 01:18:15,418 * I'd rather be an old man's sweetheart 1362 01:18:15,557 --> 01:18:17,991 * Than to be a young man's fool 1363 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,025 Ivey: And we cut all those records when Donny Osmond, 1364 01:18:20,195 --> 01:18:22,095 the Osmond Brothers, in 1971. 1365 01:18:22,230 --> 01:18:23,629 I think they sold something in the neighborhood 1366 01:18:23,765 --> 01:18:25,790 of 23 million records in one year. 1367 01:18:25,934 --> 01:18:27,834 Hall: Joe Simon, the group Alabama, 1368 01:18:28,003 --> 01:18:30,130 Paul Anka, and Tom Jones. 1369 01:18:30,305 --> 01:18:33,638 Clarence Carter, Wilson Pickett, Bobby Womack. 1370 01:18:33,775 --> 01:18:36,403 Hall: I had one of the biggest record companies in the world behind me. 1371 01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:38,638 I was getting twice the quality rate 1372 01:18:38,780 --> 01:18:40,941 that I was getting from Atlantic and Chess. 1373 01:18:43,118 --> 01:18:45,245 So I was shitting in high cotton. 1374 01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:46,649 (laughs) 1375 01:18:46,788 --> 01:18:49,279 * I'd rather be an old man's sweetheart 1376 01:18:49,424 --> 01:18:52,257 * Than to be a young man's fool 1377 01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:54,294 * Don't want to be your fool 1378 01:18:54,429 --> 01:18:59,696 Johnson: We were forming a production company in about '69 or '70. 1379 01:18:59,868 --> 01:19:02,063 And our friend, Alan Walden, 1380 01:19:02,237 --> 01:19:06,196 found this band in Jacksonville called Lynyrd Skynyrd. 1381 01:19:06,374 --> 01:19:10,208 I was a sucker to want to cut that band immediately, 1382 01:19:10,378 --> 01:19:12,642 so we signed them. 1383 01:19:12,781 --> 01:19:14,442 Man: When I first joined Lynyrd Skynyrd, 1384 01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:16,050 Ronnie had always talked 1385 01:19:16,218 --> 01:19:17,742 about the guys in Muscle Shoals. 1386 01:19:17,919 --> 01:19:20,752 Apparently, they had gone up there and recorded 1387 01:19:20,922 --> 01:19:24,824 an entire album with Jimmy Johnson producing. 1388 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,723 They had no money, 1389 01:19:26,895 --> 01:19:31,161 and I remember they would come up here and they'd check in a truck stop 1390 01:19:31,299 --> 01:19:33,529 where they'd get in fights with the truckers 1391 01:19:33,702 --> 01:19:36,466 'cause of their long hair. And basically, 1392 01:19:36,605 --> 01:19:39,699 all they had to eat was peanut butter sandwiches 1393 01:19:39,841 --> 01:19:41,206 the whole time. 1394 01:19:42,410 --> 01:19:44,776 But I loved this band. 1395 01:19:44,946 --> 01:19:47,506 I didn't know if it'd be a hit, but I'll tell you one thing, 1396 01:19:47,649 --> 01:19:49,776 if you listen to those songs, 1397 01:19:49,951 --> 01:19:53,944 some of the best rock and roll songs I've ever heard. 1398 01:19:54,122 --> 01:19:55,214 Especially one. 1399 01:19:55,423 --> 01:19:57,584 (piano music) 1400 01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:00,891 At the time we were cutting Free Bird, 1401 01:20:01,029 --> 01:20:02,690 we took a little lunch break. 1402 01:20:02,831 --> 01:20:06,699 We walk in, the engineer had started playing the tape. 1403 01:20:06,835 --> 01:20:08,928 Billy Powell, who's the roadie, 1404 01:20:09,104 --> 01:20:12,198 he was sitting in there playing this concert piano 1405 01:20:12,340 --> 01:20:14,069 that was so unbelievable, 1406 01:20:14,209 --> 01:20:17,804 that we walked in just in, like... awe, 1407 01:20:17,979 --> 01:20:19,241 with our mouth open. 1408 01:20:20,816 --> 01:20:22,545 And I look at Ronnie and he looks at me, 1409 01:20:22,684 --> 01:20:24,618 and I said, "I got to go and record with that. 1410 01:20:24,786 --> 01:20:26,913 I don't know about you." And he said, "You got it." 1411 01:20:27,055 --> 01:20:29,888 We put him on the record, and then he became 1412 01:20:30,025 --> 01:20:32,687 a band member within a few months. 1413 01:20:32,828 --> 01:20:34,989 He was a concert pianist, 1414 01:20:35,163 --> 01:20:37,222 and nobody knew it, not anybody. 1415 01:20:42,137 --> 01:20:43,968 I think he thought they wouldn't like that, 1416 01:20:44,139 --> 01:20:46,266 you know, that he had studied. 1417 01:20:46,441 --> 01:20:49,569 But what a great thing he added to their records. 1418 01:20:56,084 --> 01:20:58,484 But there was something different about this band. 1419 01:20:58,653 --> 01:21:02,316 I mean, on this album, I had a nine-minute single, 1420 01:21:02,490 --> 01:21:05,584 and I'm going to go and try to sell it to a record company 1421 01:21:05,727 --> 01:21:08,992 that's never had a single over three and a half minutes. 1422 01:21:09,164 --> 01:21:11,325 I mean, I got problems. 1423 01:21:11,499 --> 01:21:15,629 * If I leave here tomorrow 1424 01:21:18,874 --> 01:21:22,503 * Would you still remember me 1425 01:21:22,677 --> 01:21:24,645 But there started to be a lot of interest, 1426 01:21:24,813 --> 01:21:27,043 and they said, "We want you to cut it down 1427 01:21:27,215 --> 01:21:28,807 to 3:45 on this one." 1428 01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:30,975 I said, "Nope, can't do it." 1429 01:21:31,119 --> 01:21:33,610 And I knew that if I did that, 1430 01:21:33,755 --> 01:21:36,451 I'd destroy the integrity of the band. 1431 01:21:36,591 --> 01:21:38,889 I said, "Go listen to them live, 1432 01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:41,494 and then you'll know what to do." 1433 01:21:41,663 --> 01:21:47,363 * But if I stay here with you now 1434 01:21:50,438 --> 01:21:53,339 * Things just couldn't be the same 1435 01:21:53,508 --> 01:21:56,602 Not one A & R department would go listen to them, 1436 01:21:56,745 --> 01:22:00,704 so it wound up, I lost a band. 1437 01:22:08,723 --> 01:22:11,521 And here, I had all these great cuts, 1438 01:22:11,693 --> 01:22:14,025 I cut the first Free Bird, Simple Man, 1439 01:22:14,162 --> 01:22:16,460 I mean, all this stuff, you know? 1440 01:22:19,801 --> 01:22:21,826 And I wasted almost two years of my life, 1441 01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:25,565 and it's very depressing for me, 1442 01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:28,470 and I'm sure it was for them. 1443 01:22:29,411 --> 01:22:34,348 * And this bird you cannot change 1444 01:22:34,482 --> 01:22:36,279 * Oh 1445 01:22:36,451 --> 01:22:39,909 But the Skynyrd boys had one thing in their favor going for them: 1446 01:22:40,088 --> 01:22:42,522 that guy, Alan Walden, that I talked to you about, 1447 01:22:42,657 --> 01:22:44,557 he got them on a Who tour. 1448 01:22:45,460 --> 01:22:47,087 World tour with The Who. 1449 01:22:47,262 --> 01:22:49,389 When they came off of that Who tour, 1450 01:22:49,564 --> 01:22:51,862 they were a hit band. 1451 01:22:52,734 --> 01:22:57,671 * Lord, I can't change 1452 01:22:57,806 --> 01:23:01,242 * Won't you fly high 1453 01:23:01,376 --> 01:23:03,901 * Oh, free bird, yeah 1454 01:23:08,650 --> 01:23:11,141 (crowd cheering) 1455 01:23:51,860 --> 01:23:53,919 Johnson: And then the crash happened. 1456 01:24:01,102 --> 01:24:05,038 And Gary and Allen got well enough from the crash, 1457 01:24:05,206 --> 01:24:07,731 they come to me and say, "We want 11 songs 1458 01:24:07,876 --> 01:24:11,039 of your 17 to be the next album," 1459 01:24:11,212 --> 01:24:13,806 and it was called, "The First and the Last." 1460 01:24:21,122 --> 01:24:22,749 (engine starting) 1461 01:24:40,241 --> 01:24:43,699 Hall: My father raised me, he cooked the meals, 1462 01:24:43,878 --> 01:24:45,869 he got us off to school. 1463 01:24:46,047 --> 01:24:47,708 I spent hours and hours 1464 01:24:47,882 --> 01:24:49,873 in the woods with him cutting timber. 1465 01:24:50,051 --> 01:24:51,712 He preached to me constantly, 1466 01:24:51,886 --> 01:24:53,513 "You got to be the best at whatever you do, 1467 01:24:53,688 --> 01:24:55,178 and good is not good enough, 1468 01:24:55,323 --> 01:24:57,052 you've got to be the best in the world, 1469 01:24:57,225 --> 01:24:59,625 not just the best in this county." 1470 01:24:59,761 --> 01:25:02,696 He had worked hard, and I'd worked hard with him 1471 01:25:02,864 --> 01:25:05,628 all of our lives, and so I wanted to do something 1472 01:25:05,767 --> 01:25:07,257 to make life easier for him, 1473 01:25:07,435 --> 01:25:11,496 so I bought him a new John Deere tractor. 1474 01:25:12,574 --> 01:25:14,667 He'd always wanted a tractor. 1475 01:25:14,809 --> 01:25:17,334 We never could afford a tractor. 1476 01:25:24,986 --> 01:25:26,647 During this time, 1477 01:25:26,788 --> 01:25:28,915 my dad was plying on the little tractor 1478 01:25:29,090 --> 01:25:32,059 about a quarter of a mile from our house. 1479 01:25:32,193 --> 01:25:35,185 My stepmother went out to look for my father, 1480 01:25:35,330 --> 01:25:38,527 and she saw the tractor wheels turned up in the air, 1481 01:25:38,666 --> 01:25:40,429 and she knew something bad had happened. 1482 01:25:40,602 --> 01:25:43,093 He was pinned under the tractor. 1483 01:25:43,271 --> 01:25:46,536 He had tried to get away and had pawed in the ground 1484 01:25:46,674 --> 01:25:49,142 trying to free himself. 1485 01:25:49,310 --> 01:25:51,210 Of course, after his death, 1486 01:25:51,346 --> 01:25:53,541 I went into a deep stupor. 1487 01:25:53,681 --> 01:25:56,582 I mean, it's just overwhelming. 1488 01:25:58,153 --> 01:26:01,281 I was playing in Texas, 1489 01:26:01,456 --> 01:26:04,152 and Rick Hall called me and told me 1490 01:26:04,325 --> 01:26:07,158 he had a song he wanted me to come up there and do. 1491 01:26:07,328 --> 01:26:10,388 * I was born and raised down in Alabama 1492 01:26:10,532 --> 01:26:12,864 * On a farm way back up in the woods 1493 01:26:13,001 --> 01:26:15,492 * I was so ragged that folks used to call me Patches 1494 01:26:15,670 --> 01:26:17,137 * Papa used to tease me about it 1495 01:26:17,305 --> 01:26:18,772 * Of course, deep down inside, he was hurt 1496 01:26:18,940 --> 01:26:21,170 * 'Cause he'd done all he could 1497 01:26:21,342 --> 01:26:23,401 Carter: When Rick played the song to me, 1498 01:26:23,545 --> 01:26:25,513 I said, "We're going the wrong direction." 1499 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,773 Hall: He didn't like the song 1500 01:26:27,949 --> 01:26:29,644 because he thought it was a downer 1501 01:26:29,817 --> 01:26:31,785 for his people, the black people. 1502 01:26:31,953 --> 01:26:34,114 * My papa was a great old man 1503 01:26:34,255 --> 01:26:35,620 "My papa was a great old man, 1504 01:26:35,790 --> 01:26:39,123 I can see him with a shovel in his hand. 1505 01:26:39,260 --> 01:26:41,194 Education he never had, 1506 01:26:41,362 --> 01:26:43,523 but he did wonders when times got bad." 1507 01:26:43,698 --> 01:26:45,598 * The little money from the crops he raised 1508 01:26:45,733 --> 01:26:48,793 And it was my story about me and my father. 1509 01:26:48,970 --> 01:26:51,803 * Oh, life had kicked him down to the ground 1510 01:26:51,973 --> 01:26:54,669 * When he tried to get up, life would kick him back down 1511 01:26:54,842 --> 01:26:57,606 * One day Papa called me to his dying bed 1512 01:26:57,745 --> 01:27:00,373 * Put his hands on my shoulders and in tears he said 1513 01:27:00,548 --> 01:27:05,008 * He said, Patches, I'm depending on you, son 1514 01:27:05,186 --> 01:27:07,950 * To pull the family through 1515 01:27:08,089 --> 01:27:12,822 * My son, it's all left up to you 1516 01:27:16,764 --> 01:27:18,231 All the things went through my mind 1517 01:27:18,399 --> 01:27:21,926 of how he killed himself working for his son 1518 01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:24,129 and had lived vicariously through me 1519 01:27:24,272 --> 01:27:27,332 thinking, "I couldn't make it, but maybe my son Rick can make it." 1520 01:27:27,475 --> 01:27:30,569 * Sometimes I felt that I couldn't go on 1521 01:27:30,745 --> 01:27:33,339 * I wanted to leave, just run away from home 1522 01:27:33,481 --> 01:27:36,541 * But I would remember what my daddy said 1523 01:27:36,718 --> 01:27:40,017 * With tears in his eyes on his dying bed 1524 01:27:40,188 --> 01:27:42,520 So, I was so taken by the story 1525 01:27:42,657 --> 01:27:45,956 that I wanted to do a special production on it with strings, 1526 01:27:46,094 --> 01:27:48,585 and I wanted to go to L.A. and do it, and I did. 1527 01:27:48,763 --> 01:27:52,028 * To do the rest 1528 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,193 I was a believer in Rick Hall knowing what to do, 1529 01:27:56,337 --> 01:27:58,271 and if he said that was a good song, 1530 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,270 okay, let's sing the song. 1531 01:28:00,441 --> 01:28:04,275 * Patches, I'm depending on you, son 1532 01:28:04,445 --> 01:28:08,279 * To pull the family through 1533 01:28:08,449 --> 01:28:09,677 When it came out, 1534 01:28:09,817 --> 01:28:12,843 it was going up the charts in a hurry. 1535 01:28:12,987 --> 01:28:15,285 That was a number one record. 1536 01:28:15,456 --> 01:28:19,722 * Patches, I'm depending on you, son 1537 01:28:19,894 --> 01:28:22,761 * I tried to do my best 1538 01:28:22,930 --> 01:28:27,367 * It's up to you to do the rest 1539 01:28:36,644 --> 01:28:40,239 The artists who come here, they come to get away from it all. 1540 01:28:40,381 --> 01:28:42,849 They can rest, 1541 01:28:42,984 --> 01:28:45,009 stay away from the telephone, 1542 01:28:45,153 --> 01:28:47,951 the hustle and bustle, and people bugging them 1543 01:28:48,122 --> 01:28:50,283 regarding autographs or what have you. 1544 01:28:50,458 --> 01:28:52,483 Nobody knows them here, in other words. 1545 01:28:55,396 --> 01:28:57,455 Jagger: People like to go to places 1546 01:28:57,632 --> 01:29:02,399 that had a kind of magical kind of vibe about them, 1547 01:29:02,537 --> 01:29:04,334 but they also liked to get out of New York 1548 01:29:04,505 --> 01:29:06,268 or out of L.A. or out of London sometimes 1549 01:29:06,407 --> 01:29:08,739 to do these sessions. 1550 01:29:11,879 --> 01:29:13,506 King: I mean, that was really the first of its kind 1551 01:29:13,681 --> 01:29:15,740 that attracted music people from all over the world. 1552 01:29:15,883 --> 01:29:17,908 Sure, people go to New York to record. 1553 01:29:18,052 --> 01:29:20,486 You know, big deal. You know, go to Muscle Shoals 1554 01:29:20,655 --> 01:29:22,418 where you can actually get lunch at a meat and three 1555 01:29:22,557 --> 01:29:24,821 and really experience the Southern way of life. 1556 01:29:24,992 --> 01:29:27,460 I mean, there's nothing like it. 1557 01:29:30,698 --> 01:29:32,325 Cliff: When I went to Muscle Shoals to record, 1558 01:29:32,500 --> 01:29:35,594 for me, it was more like going to my village 1559 01:29:35,737 --> 01:29:38,228 in Somerton, in Jamaica. 1560 01:29:38,373 --> 01:29:41,706 I did actually feel, I'm at home. 1561 01:29:41,876 --> 01:29:45,835 * Sitting here in limbo 1562 01:29:46,013 --> 01:29:48,982 * But I know it won't be long 1563 01:29:49,150 --> 01:29:52,347 Hood: Jimmy had a very definite Jamaican songwriting style, 1564 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,249 and this was pre-Bob Marley, 1565 01:29:54,389 --> 01:29:58,348 so nobody was really hip to the Jamaican sound that much. 1566 01:29:58,526 --> 01:30:02,257 Cliff: Here I am, going there with a different brand of feeling, 1567 01:30:02,397 --> 01:30:04,729 and they were readily adaptable to it. 1568 01:30:05,733 --> 01:30:07,098 Hawkins: When an artist would come in, 1569 01:30:07,235 --> 01:30:11,262 what our job was to us is to become their band. 1570 01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:14,000 King: They were able to change who they were 1571 01:30:14,175 --> 01:30:16,643 depending on the artist that walked in the door. 1572 01:30:16,778 --> 01:30:18,109 That was the true genius of it. 1573 01:30:19,213 --> 01:30:21,977 * I can't say what life will show me 1574 01:30:22,116 --> 01:30:24,880 * But I know what I've seen 1575 01:30:25,052 --> 01:30:27,816 * I can't say where life will leave me 1576 01:30:27,955 --> 01:30:30,822 * But I know where I've been 1577 01:30:30,958 --> 01:30:33,722 * Tried my hand at love and friendship 1578 01:30:33,895 --> 01:30:37,296 * But all that is past and gone 1579 01:30:37,432 --> 01:30:40,595 * This little boy is moving on 1580 01:30:43,604 --> 01:30:45,435 Cliff: The song, Sitting in Limbo, 1581 01:30:45,606 --> 01:30:48,734 was such a fresh piece of music 1582 01:30:48,910 --> 01:30:50,969 that you couldn't help but notice it. 1583 01:30:51,112 --> 01:30:53,444 * Sitting in limbo 1584 01:30:53,614 --> 01:30:56,014 And so, definitely the Swampers, 1585 01:30:56,150 --> 01:30:58,846 all white guys, played their role 1586 01:30:58,986 --> 01:31:02,752 in bringing reggae to the forefront of the public. 1587 01:31:02,924 --> 01:31:05,984 * Sitting in limbo, limbo, limbo 1588 01:31:06,127 --> 01:31:07,719 It was after those sessions 1589 01:31:07,862 --> 01:31:09,887 that Chris Blackwell had the idea 1590 01:31:10,064 --> 01:31:13,693 to link them up with Steve Winwood. 1591 01:31:13,835 --> 01:31:15,894 Winwood: When we were going through our formative years, 1592 01:31:16,070 --> 01:31:19,335 I started hearing this Southern soul music, 1593 01:31:19,474 --> 01:31:22,568 and of course, I didn't really have any concept 1594 01:31:22,710 --> 01:31:26,441 of Muscle Shoals or the musicians 1595 01:31:26,614 --> 01:31:28,411 or their background, 1596 01:31:28,549 --> 01:31:30,483 when I was first hearing this music. 1597 01:31:30,651 --> 01:31:34,712 I just knew that the music had something very special for me, 1598 01:31:34,856 --> 01:31:37,051 so when we actually got to work with them, 1599 01:31:37,191 --> 01:31:39,785 it was an amazing experience for us. 1600 01:31:39,961 --> 01:31:45,297 * Sometimes I feel so uninspired 1601 01:31:45,466 --> 01:31:48,094 Hawkins: Recording with Traffic was a very strange thing. 1602 01:31:48,269 --> 01:31:50,965 It was... To me, it was strange. 1603 01:31:51,138 --> 01:31:55,837 Winwood: Of course, Traffic weren't a mainstream band at all. 1604 01:31:56,010 --> 01:31:58,501 We would try and take elements 1605 01:31:58,679 --> 01:32:02,843 of rock, jazz, folk music, 1606 01:32:03,017 --> 01:32:05,645 all sorts of different ethnic music. 1607 01:32:05,820 --> 01:32:09,517 Our own particular name for it was Headless Horseman music. 1608 01:32:11,192 --> 01:32:14,525 * But don't let it get you down 1609 01:32:14,695 --> 01:32:16,925 Hawkins: They didn't go about recording 1610 01:32:17,064 --> 01:32:18,759 the way that we were used to. 1611 01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:22,165 At that time, I was trying to be real precise. 1612 01:32:22,336 --> 01:32:24,065 Traffic was the exact opposite. 1613 01:32:24,205 --> 01:32:25,672 It sounds terrible, let's play it anyway. 1614 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,808 It might not ever sound good, but let's play it. 1615 01:32:27,942 --> 01:32:31,673 It wasn't an immediate, easy marriage. 1616 01:32:31,846 --> 01:32:33,507 Hawkins: But as time went on, I started, 1617 01:32:33,681 --> 01:32:35,979 I guess you might say, opening up a little bit. 1618 01:32:36,150 --> 01:32:38,710 I was forced to learn how to jam again. 1619 01:32:44,592 --> 01:32:47,891 Winwood: The song that stands out for me off that album 1620 01:32:48,062 --> 01:32:50,622 is (Sometimes I Feel So) Uninspired. 1621 01:32:50,765 --> 01:32:54,997 What Muscle Shoals did to that song was truly spectacular. 1622 01:32:55,169 --> 01:32:59,538 They brought these rhythmic elements and harmonic elements 1623 01:32:59,707 --> 01:33:02,676 that we could never have reached. 1624 01:33:10,384 --> 01:33:12,579 Hawkins: And then Chris Blackwell says, 1625 01:33:12,753 --> 01:33:15,313 "Well, we'd like for you guys to go on the road with us." 1626 01:33:16,290 --> 01:33:18,554 And so, we'd go out and play with Traffic 1627 01:33:18,726 --> 01:33:22,218 at these big venues and 20,000 people. 1628 01:33:22,396 --> 01:33:24,762 Winwood: We were just thrilled that they agreed, 1629 01:33:24,932 --> 01:33:26,559 but of course, they'd actually never 1630 01:33:26,734 --> 01:33:29,328 been on the road with anyone. 1631 01:33:29,470 --> 01:33:32,598 There were times when Jim and I and Chris 1632 01:33:32,773 --> 01:33:34,365 would get together and sort of worry, 1633 01:33:34,542 --> 01:33:38,672 say, "Are we corrupting these guys' minds?", 1634 01:33:38,813 --> 01:33:43,079 and that their music possibly came out of some sort of innocence. 1635 01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:47,152 We suffered a certain amount of guilt for that. 1636 01:33:51,592 --> 01:33:54,618 Hood: Musicians are pretty noted for the gypsy life, 1637 01:33:54,795 --> 01:33:57,628 moving around and playing a different venue every night, 1638 01:33:57,798 --> 01:34:00,392 but we really liked our family life. 1639 01:34:06,774 --> 01:34:09,902 When I first started in music, I had visions of New York 1640 01:34:10,044 --> 01:34:12,945 and Los Angeles and travel, different places, 1641 01:34:13,114 --> 01:34:15,241 and the more I've done that, the more I've realized 1642 01:34:15,416 --> 01:34:16,974 that this is the best place. 1643 01:34:17,151 --> 01:34:19,619 It is my home and I love it here. 1644 01:34:20,788 --> 01:34:23,552 We had many opportunities to move our operation. 1645 01:34:23,691 --> 01:34:25,556 We thought, "People would come to us. 1646 01:34:25,693 --> 01:34:28,218 Why would we have to go to them when they'll come to us?" 1647 01:34:29,597 --> 01:34:31,565 * Sometimes even now 1648 01:34:31,699 --> 01:34:34,065 * When I'm feeling lonely and beat 1649 01:34:36,437 --> 01:34:40,771 * I drift back in time and I find my feet 1650 01:34:41,842 --> 01:34:44,470 * Down on Mainstreet 1651 01:34:45,746 --> 01:34:47,680 Johnson: I'm gonna tell you, working with Bob Seger 1652 01:34:47,848 --> 01:34:50,078 was just magnificent, it really was. 1653 01:34:50,217 --> 01:34:55,280 He was the kind of guy, that he had no ego. 1654 01:34:55,456 --> 01:34:58,016 * Down on Mainstreet 1655 01:34:58,192 --> 01:35:00,683 And Mainstreet is one of my really favorite cuts. 1656 01:35:00,861 --> 01:35:02,954 Seger really put his heart in that one. 1657 01:35:03,097 --> 01:35:06,589 Most of the people in Detroit and the Muscle Shoals people 1658 01:35:06,734 --> 01:35:11,228 thought they were talking about the Main Street of their town. 1659 01:35:11,372 --> 01:35:13,397 We had a ten-year run with him 1660 01:35:13,541 --> 01:35:15,975 that we were at least doing half the album 1661 01:35:16,110 --> 01:35:18,271 each time he put out an album. 1662 01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,920 Godchaux: The studio just started taking a life of its own. 1663 01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,723 Stars fell on Alabama, 1664 01:35:34,929 --> 01:35:37,454 and everybody who was anybody 1665 01:35:37,598 --> 01:35:39,327 came to record at that studio. 1666 01:35:39,500 --> 01:35:42,663 * When I think back on all the crap 1667 01:35:42,803 --> 01:35:45,533 * I learned in high school 1668 01:35:48,109 --> 01:35:51,340 * It's a wonder I can think at all 1669 01:35:51,512 --> 01:35:53,707 Johnson: When we really got moving in the '70s, 1670 01:35:53,881 --> 01:35:55,974 we were doing like, 50 albums a year. 1671 01:35:56,117 --> 01:35:58,711 Richards: It was one of the best rooms I've ever worked in. 1672 01:35:58,886 --> 01:36:00,478 The sound was like the perfect sound. 1673 01:36:00,621 --> 01:36:02,714 It was the sound that you'd been going for 1674 01:36:02,890 --> 01:36:05,154 everywhere else, but couldn't get, 1675 01:36:05,292 --> 01:36:09,388 and that's why it became the place where everybody wanted to record. 1676 01:36:09,563 --> 01:36:12,623 * I got a Nikon camera 1677 01:36:12,767 --> 01:36:15,827 * I love to take a photograph 1678 01:36:15,970 --> 01:36:21,306 * So Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away 1679 01:36:21,442 --> 01:36:23,637 Hood: We were very fortunate to get to work 1680 01:36:23,778 --> 01:36:25,769 with a lot of the big stars. 1681 01:36:25,946 --> 01:36:30,542 Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Boz Scaggs, Staple Singers. 1682 01:36:30,718 --> 01:36:34,347 Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker. I mean, I just named you a list. 1683 01:36:34,488 --> 01:36:36,080 - Johnson: Johnnie Taylor. - Hood: Glenn Frey. 1684 01:36:36,257 --> 01:36:37,918 - Johnson: Leon Russell. - Hood: Willie Nelson. 1685 01:36:38,092 --> 01:36:40,185 - Johnson: Levon Helm. - Hood: Donnie Fritts. 1686 01:36:40,327 --> 01:36:42,318 - Johnson: Carlos Santana. - Hood: John Prine. 1687 01:36:42,463 --> 01:36:44,260 - Johnson: Millie Jackson. - Hood: R.B. Greaves. 1688 01:36:44,431 --> 01:36:46,899 - Johnson: JJ Cale. - Hood: Dire Straits. 1689 01:36:47,034 --> 01:36:48,763 Johnson: Simon and Garfunkel. 1690 01:36:48,936 --> 01:36:50,801 * Mama, don't take my Kodachrome 1691 01:36:50,971 --> 01:36:52,666 * Mama, don't take my Kodachrome 1692 01:36:52,807 --> 01:36:55,799 * Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away 1693 01:36:55,976 --> 01:36:57,204 * Mama, don't take my Kodachrome 1694 01:36:57,344 --> 01:36:59,938 Hawkins: Still amazes me today that all that music 1695 01:37:00,114 --> 01:37:02,446 was played by us guys, 1696 01:37:02,616 --> 01:37:04,550 a lot of the music was hits. 1697 01:37:04,685 --> 01:37:07,347 Johnson: You look back, you see the discography, 1698 01:37:07,488 --> 01:37:09,922 we're as amazed as anybody. 1699 01:37:24,371 --> 01:37:26,965 (crickets chirping) 1700 01:37:35,683 --> 01:37:38,277 (owl hooting) 1701 01:38:00,507 --> 01:38:03,101 (fire crackles) 1702 01:38:08,916 --> 01:38:12,317 Hall: My whole life has been based on... 1703 01:38:12,486 --> 01:38:14,784 ...a lot of rejection. 1704 01:38:15,956 --> 01:38:18,151 And to be honest with you, I think rejection 1705 01:38:18,292 --> 01:38:23,662 played a big role in my life because... 1706 01:38:23,831 --> 01:38:26,664 ...I thrived on it. 1707 01:38:26,834 --> 01:38:29,962 I wanted to prove the world was wrong and I was right. 1708 01:38:32,039 --> 01:38:34,769 I was rejected by my mother. 1709 01:38:34,909 --> 01:38:37,605 I was rejected by schoolmates 1710 01:38:37,745 --> 01:38:40,646 because I was poverty-stricken. 1711 01:38:40,781 --> 01:38:42,681 As I grew older, I was rejected 1712 01:38:42,850 --> 01:38:45,614 by Atlantic Records with Jerry Wexler. 1713 01:38:46,687 --> 01:38:49,451 I don't think I've ever been more angry 1714 01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:52,058 than I was at Jerry Wexler 1715 01:38:52,226 --> 01:38:56,686 and the Swampers who left me at that time. 1716 01:38:56,864 --> 01:38:58,729 It was bitter. 1717 01:39:03,871 --> 01:39:07,204 But that all passes with time. 1718 01:39:07,341 --> 01:39:09,172 Those things change. 1719 01:39:22,923 --> 01:39:27,360 Hawkins: My respect for Rick Hall is never-ending. 1720 01:39:27,494 --> 01:39:29,758 He was our mentor. 1721 01:39:29,930 --> 01:39:33,024 He gave all of us an opportunity 1722 01:39:33,167 --> 01:39:36,659 that we would have never gotten without him. 1723 01:39:39,273 --> 01:39:42,367 Hood: We all got our start working with Rick Hall. 1724 01:39:42,509 --> 01:39:44,067 Rick is really the founder 1725 01:39:44,211 --> 01:39:47,977 of the music business in Muscle Shoals. 1726 01:39:48,148 --> 01:39:49,911 Hall: These are guys that I love with all my heart, 1727 01:39:50,050 --> 01:39:51,711 and we'd worked together for years, 1728 01:39:51,852 --> 01:39:53,843 who wanted, like I did, 1729 01:39:53,988 --> 01:39:56,889 to become special in the music business. 1730 01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:10,569 Winwood: Because they played on so many of these wonderful hit records, 1731 01:40:10,704 --> 01:40:14,435 they will take their place in the history of American music. 1732 01:40:14,608 --> 01:40:16,473 Richards: That's the great thing about recording. 1733 01:40:16,643 --> 01:40:17,940 From there on, you're immortal 1734 01:40:18,078 --> 01:40:19,875 because it's in the grooves, right? 1735 01:40:20,014 --> 01:40:22,949 Sledge: Everything that everybody's done here, 1736 01:40:23,083 --> 01:40:24,914 it came from their heart, 1737 01:40:25,052 --> 01:40:27,646 and that's what makes Muscle Shoals so powerful. 1738 01:40:27,821 --> 01:40:30,790 Bono: What music built there is not something 1739 01:40:30,958 --> 01:40:33,358 that you can see with your eye. 1740 01:40:33,527 --> 01:40:35,961 In fact, if you look at the recording studios, 1741 01:40:36,096 --> 01:40:37,893 they were humble shells, 1742 01:40:38,032 --> 01:40:41,798 but what they contained was an empire 1743 01:40:41,969 --> 01:40:45,769 that crossed race and creed, ethnicity. 1744 01:40:45,906 --> 01:40:48,204 It was revolutionary. 1745 01:40:48,375 --> 01:40:51,344 I'm honored to step in the place of people 1746 01:40:51,512 --> 01:40:54,037 who I wish I could have met. 1747 01:40:54,214 --> 01:40:55,772 You know, there's still a piece of Etta here, 1748 01:40:55,916 --> 01:40:57,315 there's still a piece of Aretha here, 1749 01:40:57,451 --> 01:41:00,181 there's a piece of everybody who walked through these doors. 1750 01:41:00,354 --> 01:41:02,686 White: There's a perfect storm here. 1751 01:41:02,856 --> 01:41:05,689 Everybody needs to know all the different nuances 1752 01:41:05,859 --> 01:41:07,952 that went into making this thing happen 1753 01:41:08,095 --> 01:41:09,790 and all the stars aligning 1754 01:41:09,930 --> 01:41:12,455 and exploding the way it did. 1755 01:41:13,300 --> 01:41:16,758 Godchaux: I'm just so proud to be from this area 1756 01:41:16,904 --> 01:41:20,340 and to see everything that is to come 1757 01:41:20,474 --> 01:41:22,999 out of this incredible singing river. 1758 01:41:23,143 --> 01:41:26,010 I am honored. 1759 01:41:26,146 --> 01:41:28,808 (piano music) 1760 01:41:39,226 --> 01:41:42,491 * Well, I'm pressing on 1761 01:41:45,732 --> 01:41:49,793 * Yeah, I'm pressing on 1762 01:41:53,173 --> 01:41:56,438 * And I'm pressing on 1763 01:41:56,610 --> 01:42:02,640 * To the higher calling of my Lord 1764 01:42:06,086 --> 01:42:09,283 * Can't you see that I'm pressing on 1765 01:42:12,659 --> 01:42:17,062 * I'm pressing on 1766 01:42:20,367 --> 01:42:23,063 * I'm pressing on 1767 01:42:23,203 --> 01:42:28,266 * To the higher calling of my Lord 1768 01:42:28,442 --> 01:42:30,137 * Lord 1769 01:42:34,781 --> 01:42:37,716 * Shake the dust off your feet 1770 01:42:37,851 --> 01:42:40,945 * Don't look back 1771 01:42:41,121 --> 01:42:43,851 * Nothing gonna hold you down 1772 01:42:43,991 --> 01:42:47,722 * There's nothing you lack 1773 01:42:47,861 --> 01:42:51,160 * Temptation's not an easy thing 1774 01:42:51,331 --> 01:42:54,027 * Adam gave the devil reins 1775 01:42:54,168 --> 01:42:57,763 * And because he sinned, I got no choice 1776 01:42:57,938 --> 01:43:00,168 * It runs in my veins 1777 01:43:00,340 --> 01:43:03,503 * But I gotta keep pressing on 1778 01:43:03,677 --> 01:43:06,703 * On and on and on and on 1779 01:43:06,847 --> 01:43:11,113 * I gotta keep pressing on 1780 01:43:13,820 --> 01:43:17,517 * I'm gonna keep pressing, pressing on 1781 01:43:17,691 --> 01:43:23,323 * To the higher, higher calling of my Lord 1782 01:43:25,999 --> 01:43:26,931 * Yeah 1783 01:43:28,735 --> 01:43:31,465 * I gotta go higher 1784 01:43:31,605 --> 01:43:33,835 * On and on and on and on 1785 01:43:34,007 --> 01:43:37,602 * I gotta go higher 1786 01:43:40,981 --> 01:43:44,109 * I'm gonna go higher 1787 01:43:44,251 --> 01:43:46,014 * To the higher 1788 01:43:46,186 --> 01:43:51,123 * To the higher calling of my Lord 1789 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,859 * I know somebody, somebody feels what I'm saying 1790 01:43:58,031 --> 01:44:00,397 * Somebody knows what I'm going through 1791 01:44:00,567 --> 01:44:04,867 * Who knows I want to go higher 1792 01:44:07,708 --> 01:44:11,769 * I know you want to keep pressing on, yeah 1793 01:44:11,912 --> 01:44:17,407 * To the highest calling of the Lord 1794 01:44:25,592 --> 01:44:27,116 Turn it up. 1795 01:44:32,099 --> 01:44:34,567 King: Ronnie had always talked about the guys in Muscle Shoals. 1796 01:44:34,735 --> 01:44:36,794 Then when we wrote Sweet Home Alabama, 1797 01:44:36,937 --> 01:44:38,495 the last verse says, 1798 01:44:38,639 --> 01:44:40,869 "Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers." 1799 01:44:41,041 --> 01:44:43,271 I went, "Ronnie, what is that, Swampers?" 1800 01:44:43,443 --> 01:44:46,606 He goes, "Oh, that's Jimmy and Roger and the guys at Muscle Shoals." 1801 01:44:46,780 --> 01:44:50,409 * Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers 1802 01:44:52,252 --> 01:44:56,245 * And they've been known to pick a song or two 1803 01:44:56,423 --> 01:44:59,221 Hood: We were given that name by Denny Cordell 1804 01:44:59,359 --> 01:45:01,827 who was the producer with Leon Russell. 1805 01:45:01,962 --> 01:45:04,192 I think he just thought it sounded good, 1806 01:45:04,331 --> 01:45:06,822 'cause Muscle Shoals has a lot of water here. 1807 01:45:06,967 --> 01:45:11,199 You got to have a name. Swampers is a good nickname. 1808 01:45:11,838 --> 01:45:14,432 * Sweet home Alabama 1809 01:45:16,677 --> 01:45:19,612 * Lord, I'm coming home to you 1810 01:45:19,980 --> 01:45:22,107 There's two guitar solos in that song, one short one 1811 01:45:22,282 --> 01:45:25,012 one very long one, and they both came to me in a dream, 1812 01:45:25,152 --> 01:45:27,950 absolutely note for note, all the transition points, 1813 01:45:28,121 --> 01:45:30,385 the fingering, the chord voicings. 1814 01:45:30,524 --> 01:45:32,651 I woke up out of the dream, picked up the guitar, 1815 01:45:32,826 --> 01:45:33,884 and it was done. 1816 01:45:34,027 --> 01:45:35,927 * Here I come, Alabama 1817 01:45:55,382 --> 01:45:59,216 * Home 1818 01:45:59,353 --> 01:46:04,086 * Alabama, home 1819 01:46:04,224 --> 01:46:09,059 * Alabama, home 1820 01:46:09,196 --> 01:46:13,826 * Alabama, home 1821 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,661 * Alabama 1822 01:46:25,412 --> 01:46:28,313 * Big wheels keep on turnin' 1823 01:46:30,317 --> 01:46:32,979 * Carry me home to see my kin 1824 01:46:35,088 --> 01:46:38,182 * Singing songs about the Southland 1825 01:46:39,926 --> 01:46:42,087 * I miss Alabamy once again 1826 01:46:42,229 --> 01:46:44,527 * And I think it's a sin, yes 1827 01:46:54,574 --> 01:46:57,543 * Well, I heard Mr. Young sing about her 1828 01:46:59,446 --> 01:47:02,381 * Well, I heard old Neil put her down 1829 01:47:04,351 --> 01:47:07,286 * Well, I hope Neil Young will remember 1830 01:47:09,356 --> 01:47:12,951 * A Southern man don't need him around anyhow 1831 01:47:14,461 --> 01:47:17,123 * Sweet home Alabama 1832 01:47:19,366 --> 01:47:22,130 * Where the skies are so blue 1833 01:47:24,204 --> 01:47:26,832 * Sweet home Alabama 1834 01:47:29,209 --> 01:47:31,677 * Lord, I'm coming home to you 1835 01:47:43,690 --> 01:47:46,887 * In Birmingham, they love the governor 1836 01:47:47,060 --> 01:47:48,550 * Boo, boo, boo 1837 01:47:48,695 --> 01:47:51,562 * Now we all did what we could do 1838 01:47:53,533 --> 01:47:57,401 * Now Watergate does not bother me 1839 01:47:58,705 --> 01:48:01,071 * Does your conscience bother you 1840 01:48:01,241 --> 01:48:03,539 * Tell the truth 1841 01:48:03,677 --> 01:48:06,339 * Sweet home Alabama 1842 01:48:08,648 --> 01:48:11,173 * Where the skies are so blue 1843 01:48:13,653 --> 01:48:16,121 * Sweet home Alabama 1844 01:48:18,558 --> 01:48:21,652 * Lord, I'm coming home to you Here I come 1845 01:48:21,828 --> 01:48:23,489 * Alabama 1846 01:48:42,382 --> 01:48:46,079 * Home 1847 01:48:46,219 --> 01:48:50,952 * Alabama, home 1848 01:48:51,124 --> 01:48:55,857 * Alabama, home 1849 01:48:56,029 --> 01:49:00,762 * Alabama, home 1850 01:49:00,901 --> 01:49:02,698 * Alabama 1851 01:49:12,012 --> 01:49:15,448 * Now, Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers 1852 01:49:17,183 --> 01:49:19,674 * And they've been known to pick a song or two 1853 01:49:22,022 --> 01:49:25,185 * Lord, they get me off so much 1854 01:49:26,693 --> 01:49:28,991 * They pick me up when I'm feeling blue 1855 01:49:29,162 --> 01:49:31,790 * Now how about you 1856 01:49:31,932 --> 01:49:34,457 * Sweet home Alabama 1857 01:49:36,803 --> 01:49:39,294 * Where the skies are so blue 1858 01:49:41,775 --> 01:49:44,266 * Sweet home Alabama 1859 01:49:46,646 --> 01:49:49,342 * Lord, I'm coming home to you 1860 01:49:51,651 --> 01:49:53,915 * Sweet home Alabama 1861 01:49:54,087 --> 01:49:56,385 * Oh, sweet home 1862 01:49:56,556 --> 01:49:58,581 * Where the skies are so blue 1863 01:49:58,758 --> 01:50:01,318 * And the governor's true 1864 01:50:01,461 --> 01:50:04,191 * Sweet home Alabama 1865 01:50:06,366 --> 01:50:08,994 * Lord, I'm coming home to you 1866 01:50:11,304 --> 01:50:13,602 * Sweet home Alabama 1867 01:50:13,773 --> 01:50:16,071 * Oh, sweet home 1868 01:50:16,242 --> 01:50:19,336 * Where the skies are so blue And the governor's true 1869 01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:22,846 When you hear musicians, 1870 01:50:22,983 --> 01:50:25,349 five or six of them in a room, 1871 01:50:25,485 --> 01:50:27,214 and you hear the imperfections, 1872 01:50:27,387 --> 01:50:29,617 that's the human element. 1873 01:50:29,789 --> 01:50:31,916 If a guy falls off of the stool 1874 01:50:32,092 --> 01:50:34,925 who's playing the drums, I really don't give a shit, 1875 01:50:35,095 --> 01:50:37,222 as long as he don't miss a beat. 1876 01:50:37,397 --> 01:50:38,625 He can get back up and climb back up, 1877 01:50:38,798 --> 01:50:43,258 and most people, including myself, think that's great. 1878 01:50:43,436 --> 01:50:45,904 That's the human element, there's faults. 1879 01:50:46,039 --> 01:50:48,735 So, the imperfections gives it the human element, 1880 01:50:48,875 --> 01:50:52,038 which I believe is what we need today more of, 1881 01:50:52,178 --> 01:50:55,409 and that's how you make magic and great records. 1882 01:50:55,582 --> 01:50:58,050 Amen. 1883 01:50:58,184 --> 01:51:00,345 That's my sermon for the day, by the way. 1884 01:51:00,487 --> 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