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In the criminal justice system
the people are represented
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by two separate yet equally important
groups.
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The police who investigate crime
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and the crown prosecutors
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Excuse me, what are you doing?
Are you Mrs Lerner?
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No. I work for Mrs Lerner. I'm not
fussed so long as you let me in.
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She wants broadband upstairs.
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Fetch.
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Did you ring the bell?
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Do you know, it never occurred to me.
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Wipe your feet.
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Nice gaff.
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It was not before.
Fitted carpets, easy to clean.
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Much better.
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Uh...
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They want to put a computer in the
office
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and one in the guest bedroom.
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Job spec said only one extra outlet.
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Haven't they got a wireless router?
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You have to talk to her. Mrs Lerner!
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The man from the broadband is here!
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Mrs Lerner!
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Hello!
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Mrs Lerner!
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Victims are Elaine and David Lerner.
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The cleaner found them.
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Right. Who's the young Elvis?
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He came to install broadband.
He was waiting outside.
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Point of entry?
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Entry and exit,
broken window in the kitchen.
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With a blood trail leading
back there from the bedroom.
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Right. Have we got anything missing,
do you know?
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The cleaner is doing an inventory
and the daughter is on her way.
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She's driving down from Leeds.
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What a homecoming.
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A dozen stab wounds between them
and still counting.
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At a rough guess, I'd say they've
been dead not more than 48 hours.
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The wife is still tucked in.
Didn't actually know what hit her.
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The husband not so lucky.
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Defensive stab wounds on both hands.
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Through
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and... through.
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So, what do you think? Husband wakes
up, see's his wife being attacked,
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and tries to fight back.
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"David and Elaine.
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Here's to the next 20 years. "
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Or not, as it turns out.
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Our murder weapon is a chisel taken
from a tool bag on the landing.
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So he entered the house unarmed?
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Maybe he thought no-one was home.
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Heard a noise and grabbed the first
thing that came to hand.
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Why head upstairs?
They didn't interrupt him.
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They were still in bed.
Was anything taken?
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Apparently not. Jewellery, cash,
electrics all still present.
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If you went there to kill them,
why go unarmed?
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And if it's a burglary,
why leave empty-handed?
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He had just butchered two people.
Maybe he wasn't thinking straight.
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He was thinking straight enough
to have a wash before he went.
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And he wiped the chisel before he
dropped it.
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So no prints, then.
Not on the murder weapon, guv,
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but elsewhere we're spoiled for
choice.
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We've got 38 sets of unknown prints.
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Popular couple.
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They were renovating the house,
it was crawling with workmen.
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But this is what
we're concentrating on.
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It's a partial thumb print on the
headboard. Mrs Lerner's blood.
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It's a good match to another partial
found near the broken window.
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Except it's not on the system.
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Print everyone who's worked on that
house. Any word from the daughter?
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We're meeting her at the house.
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I'd like to talk to forensics
regarding the MO.
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Although the prints haven't turned up
on the system,
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anything this brutal might ring
bells. Get to it.
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Ta.
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What?
I get the grieving daughter.
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And you go down the lab
to have a cup of tea with Eleanor?
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Andy, my boy, talk about delegation,
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it's an art.
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It's a joke.
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Female vic definitely went first.
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The angle of the wound suggests
he was on the bed straddling her.
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So, what he pinned her down?
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Pretty much. Not that he needed to.
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The chisel went in seven times
and never once missed the target.
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He hit the heart, stomach,
liver and kidneys.
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She probably never
woke up enough to move.
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He wasn't messing around then?
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Oh, no.
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He wanted her dead.
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I'd say it was personal.
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See this spatter pattern here?
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To get cast off like this,
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the weapon has to be moving hard and
fast.
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This guy was really angry.
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And the husband?
Same thing.
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Another six hits, no hesitations.
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I reckon they were dead after the
first couple of wounds.
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Can you think of a reason
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why anyone would want
to harm your parents?
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No.
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They are lovely people.
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Everyone loves them.
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Maybe they were having financial
troubles?
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Doing up a place like this
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can spiral out of control.
Maybe they needed some cash.
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Tried to borrow some from someone?
No.
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My dad budgets for everything.
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Right down to the last penny.
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This was their dream home.
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They wanted to get it exactly right.
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It was for their retirement.
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When they finally sold the agency.
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They were in business together?
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Sleepytime Sitters.
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It's a baby-sitting agency.
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Might there be
somebody with a grudge?
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Maybe an employee
that you had to let go?
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David always said
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treat people fairly
and you'll see the best of them.
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A lot of our ladies have been with
us for years.
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You've never had to sack anybody?
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If someone
really wasn't working out,
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Elaine had such a gentle way of
dealing with it.
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It was like she was helping them
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find something they were better
suited to.
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Bob Mitchell will tell you
a different story.
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Who is Bob Mitchell?
The partner in the early days.
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Thought he was a real go-getter.
And that wasn't their way?
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Definitely not.
They dissolved the partnership.
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Six months after he was ditched
by the Lerners,
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Mitchell declared himself bankrupt.
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Since then it looks like he's
lurched
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from one failed business to the
next. This is his latest.
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While his former partners are making
a fortune?
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That could make a man bitter.
Did you get anything from Ellie?
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In her opinion, it was nasty
and quite possibly personal.
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I realised I was in the wrong sector
and refocused my goals.
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Haven't looked back.
So really they did you a favour?
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Yes, actually.
Where were you Saturday evening?
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Around midnight?
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About 150 miles away.
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I was attending an entrepreneurial
weekend in Stoke.
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Can any of your fellow entrepreneurs
confirm that?
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I wasn't sharing a room
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but they saw me leave the bar.
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Mitchell checks out.
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Several guests remember him being
drunk and annoying around 11:30.
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We have no other suspects?
According to everyone,
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the Lerners are saints.
Not an enemy in the world.
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What about the bloody thumb print?
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We've printed 26 of the workers, guv,
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but not one of them even comes close.
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So if everyone who knew them loved
them, what are we left with?
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An aborted burglary?
Or... random nutter.
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Either way... Let me guess,
we go back to the beginning,
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and see if we missed anything?
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Elaine is asleep
on the right-hand side,
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David asleep on the left.
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Our man comes in,
doesn't touch anything.
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Makes his way to
the right-hand side of the bed.
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He braces himself against the
headboard
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and then stabs her multiple times.
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The partial print we have
is off his right thumb.
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Fine. Then we've narrowed it down
to a left-handed killer.
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But then David wakes up,
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tries to stop him, they fight,
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he loses,
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and then he falls backwards over
Elaine's body.
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So now we have two dead bodies.
Where does he go? What does he do?
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He doesn't touch anything.
He doesn't steal anything.
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No, instead, he goes downstairs
and he has a wash.
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In the kitchen sink.
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Do you need me to move?
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No, no, you're fine, don't worry.
We won't be much longer.
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Although you might prefer not to
listen to this. That's OK.
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So he cleans up in the sink.
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And then he goes out
the way he came in.
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Why not just go through the door?
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It's always double locked.
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He wouldn't know that.
Unless he tried it.
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But he didn't.
No prints inside or out
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and he wasn't wearing gloves.
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Do you have the keys to the door,
please, Elizabeth?
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The fence isn't very high.
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But why didn't he try the door
before the window?
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JAE Security Services.
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Elizabeth...
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Elizabeth, sorry.
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There used to be another door here,
yeah?
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Yeah.
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A big metal security door.
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My parents took it out
when they did the kitchen.
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The house was like Fort Knox.
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Right.
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And do you know the name of
the people that lived here before?
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A woman called Camilla Mallon.
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She was in the papers a couple of
years ago
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after some big hedge fund collapsed.
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Turned out it had all been a scam.
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Her partners were all done for fraud
but she got off.
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A lot of people weren't very happy.
That's why she had to move.
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Maybe she received some threats.
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That's what my mum said.
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That's why they got
such a good price.
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Oh, my god.
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Yeah.
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Maybe your parents weren't the
intended victims.
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Did she leave a forwarding address?
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The threats came from investors who
lost money.
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They were sent to the office,
never my home.
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The police didn't think
I was in any real danger.
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But it seemed sensible to move
somewhere with more security.
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Some people weren't too pleased
that you got off?
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If it wasn't enough that I lost my
marriage, my business
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and nearly took the fall for a fraud
I knew nothing about, then no,
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apparently not.
What about your partners?
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They can't have been pleased when
you gave evidence against them?
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They were going down with or without
my evidence.
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Anyway, they are both
still in prison.
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You're not suggesting
they hired some kind of hitman?
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What would be the point?
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Mallon got off on a technicality.
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Did a deal with the FSA,
ratted out her partners.
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That must have made you angry?
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They conned me out of nearly
a quarter of a million pounds.
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How do you think I felt? Angry
enough to write a threatening letter.
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I'd had a few whiskies too many.
Wanted to let off steam.
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At the end of the day,
she was small fry.
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It was the other two who screwed me
over and they're behind bars.
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Justice was done. And luckily
I can afford to lose a few quid.
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That is fortunate.
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Our whole life savings gone
just like that.
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First risk I ever took in my life.
And the last.
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Camilla Mallon gets off scot free.
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She'll get what's coming to her.
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Yeah?
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I hear you created quite a scene
outside the court.
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Sounded like you were ready to get
violent. What good would that do?
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No. We're taking out a civil action
against all three of them.
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Me and about 50 other investors.
I'll tell you something for nothing.
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That Mallon woman,
real piece of work. In what way?
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Husband stands by her right through
the trial, then she gets off,
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dumps him and takes him to the
cleaners in the divorce.
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No-one screwed anyone over.
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We just both took out
what we put in.
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Which wasn't a lot
in my case, it's true.
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University lecturers
don't tend to rake in the cash.
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But, hey,
we're not in it for the money.
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Much like police officers.
251
00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,320
You're sure it was Camilla this
person meant to kill?
252
00:13:13,355 --> 00:13:15,365
It's a definite possibility, yeah.
253
00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,525
God. I just can't
get my head round it.
254
00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:20,600
It was pretty frightening
when people made threats.
255
00:13:20,635 --> 00:13:22,885
But neither of us
really believed them.
256
00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,960
So you and your wife,
you separated after the trial?
257
00:13:25,995 --> 00:13:28,937
And you both moved out of the house?
Yeah, that's right.
258
00:13:28,972 --> 00:13:31,880
There was no bad feeling?
No row about who got what?
259
00:13:31,915 --> 00:13:33,840
No, nothing like that, why?
260
00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,925
You're kidding?
261
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,965
You think I'm a suspect?
262
00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,045
These are just routine questions.
263
00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,720
I was married to Camilla for five
years. I do know where she lives.
264
00:13:44,755 --> 00:13:47,285
And I certainly know
what she looks like.
265
00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,440
I'm hardly going to mix her up
with someone else, am I?
266
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,400
We spoke to about a dozen investors
267
00:13:56,435 --> 00:13:58,445
who made explicit threats.
268
00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,685
But so far none of them
really jump out.
269
00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,360
It's gonna take months
to track down the rest.
270
00:14:03,395 --> 00:14:05,645
The ex-husband couldn't narrow it?
No.
271
00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:09,400
He wasn't interested in his wife's
business. Typical healthy marriage.
272
00:14:09,435 --> 00:14:13,117
This is interesting. Half an hour
before the Lerners were killed,
273
00:14:13,152 --> 00:14:16,800
a Ford Focus has an encounter
with a lamp post two streets away.
274
00:14:16,835 --> 00:14:19,737
The driver of the vehicle
abandons it. Thank you.
275
00:14:19,772 --> 00:14:22,640
And the vehicle is towed away
the following morning.
276
00:14:22,675 --> 00:14:24,685
And this is relevant how?
277
00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,240
Well, it's relevant because
said Ford Focus
278
00:14:27,275 --> 00:14:30,560
is registered to a Mr Lucas Boyd.
279
00:14:30,595 --> 00:14:32,520
Our lady banker's ex.
280
00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,560
Bet he didn't mention that, did he?
281
00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,920
I'm sorry. I know I should have
told you about the crash.
282
00:14:41,955 --> 00:14:43,880
So why didn't you?
283
00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,005
I didn't think it was relevant.
284
00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,280
And, well, to be honest,
I'd had a few drinks.
285
00:14:50,315 --> 00:14:52,320
But I just took the corner too fast.
286
00:14:52,355 --> 00:14:54,365
No-one else was involved.
287
00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,960
This isn't about the drink driving,
Mr Boyd.
288
00:14:56,995 --> 00:14:58,960
Just tell us what happened.
Sure.
289
00:14:58,995 --> 00:15:01,005
Um...
290
00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,640
I met up with a few colleagues in a
bar in Putney.
291
00:15:03,675 --> 00:15:06,565
And... I was driving home with Josh.
292
00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,440
Josh Shelton.
He teaches sports science.
293
00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,565
And...
294
00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,600
it turns out
we should have got a cab.
295
00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,280
So you were a five-minute walk
from your old house?
296
00:15:19,315 --> 00:15:21,325
I suppose so.
297
00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,200
It's a bit odd that you were in the
same area the same night.
298
00:15:24,235 --> 00:15:27,125
Not really. I live in Colliers Wood
just up the road.
299
00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,960
So after the crash, Josh and yourself
just headed home, yeah? Yeah.
300
00:15:30,995 --> 00:15:33,005
Well, Josh took a cab to his. I...
301
00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,120
I felt I needed some air,
so I walked.
302
00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,600
Lucas said he drove you home, Josh.
303
00:15:39,635 --> 00:15:41,645
I was wasted.
304
00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,800
I didn't realise how far gone
Lucas was until we got in the car.
305
00:15:44,835 --> 00:15:47,680
Two pint is his limit,
he's the designated driver.
306
00:15:47,715 --> 00:15:49,725
But Saturday was different.
307
00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,805
He was a man on a mission.
About time, too.
308
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,760
How come? The bloke's been divorced
almost 18 months.
309
00:15:55,795 --> 00:15:58,680
We kept telling him to relax a bit,
have some fun.
310
00:15:58,715 --> 00:16:00,725
Tell me about the accident.
311
00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,285
Not much to tell.
Lucas was driving too fast.
312
00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,360
Lost control round a bend,
wrapped us round a lamp post.
313
00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,200
I banged my shoulder, but nothing
too serious. What about Lucas?
314
00:16:11,235 --> 00:16:13,920
He smacked his head
against the steering wheel.
315
00:16:13,955 --> 00:16:16,045
Might even have knocked himself out.
316
00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,480
But he came round after a few
minutes and said he'd walk it off.
317
00:16:19,515 --> 00:16:22,125
Beer. Natural anaesthetic.
318
00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,360
The mate backs up Lucas's story
about the crash.
319
00:16:25,395 --> 00:16:27,085
But he couldn't be sure
320
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,640
which direction he headed off in
afterwards.
321
00:16:29,675 --> 00:16:32,177
Back in the days when I was drinking,
322
00:16:32,212 --> 00:16:34,686
I once went on a bender for three
days.
323
00:16:34,721 --> 00:16:37,000
Aside from the train ticket to Hull,
324
00:16:37,035 --> 00:16:39,280
and a receipt for two hedge trimmers,
325
00:16:39,315 --> 00:16:41,357
it's still a complete blank.
326
00:16:41,392 --> 00:16:43,365
Anyway, once I'd staggered home,
327
00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,445
it took me about half an hour to
realise
328
00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,720
I was standing at the wrong house.
I lived two doors down.
329
00:16:48,755 --> 00:16:51,360
You think Lucas went to
his old house by mistake?
330
00:16:51,395 --> 00:16:53,645
I don't know but he was
paralytic drunk,
331
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,300
he'd had a bang on the head,
it is a possibility.
332
00:16:56,335 --> 00:16:58,885
But he was used to there being a
security door
333
00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,460
so maybe that made him go through a
window. Why kill the Lerners?
334
00:17:02,495 --> 00:17:06,000
If he was still drunk enough
to think he lived in that house...
335
00:17:06,035 --> 00:17:09,200
Maybe it wasn't such an amicable
divorce after all.
336
00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,125
Obviously I can't go into details,
337
00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,885
but the fact is he never said
a bad word about her.
338
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,640
In my experience, divorce normally
brings out the worst in people.
339
00:17:20,675 --> 00:17:22,685
Trust me, it does.
340
00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,160
But Lucas, Mr Boyd,
he couldn't have been nicer.
341
00:17:26,195 --> 00:17:28,765
That must have made your job
a lot easier.
342
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,685
To be honest, it was
a bit frustrating. Why's that?
343
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,000
They'd been married five years,
he was entitled to half the house.
344
00:17:36,035 --> 00:17:38,125
But he didn't want
to fight her for it.
345
00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,685
Right. And have you had
any more dealings with him?
346
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,640
Yeah, when he was buying his flat,
he asked me to do the conveyancing.
347
00:17:45,675 --> 00:17:48,757
But I only do family law
so I passed him on to a colleague.
348
00:17:48,792 --> 00:17:51,805
When was the last time
you spoke to him? A few days ago.
349
00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,280
He'd read about those people getting
killed in his old house,
350
00:17:55,315 --> 00:17:58,360
said he'd been having these vivid
nightmares about it.
351
00:17:58,395 --> 00:18:00,925
When you say "vivid nightmares",
352
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,120
he was dreaming that he'd been
murdered in his old house?
353
00:18:04,155 --> 00:18:07,800
No. In the dreams he isn't the one
who gets killed.
354
00:18:07,835 --> 00:18:09,760
He's the killer.
355
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,245
I keep telling you I was drunk.
356
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,000
I don't remember anything after the
crash.
357
00:18:16,035 --> 00:18:18,720
You had a blackout?
I don't know. I guess.
358
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,800
Just take a look at the photographs
for me, please, Lucas, if you will.
359
00:18:23,835 --> 00:18:27,097
Why would I do that to those people?
I didn't even know them.
360
00:18:27,132 --> 00:18:30,360
I'm not saying that you went there
intending to kill them.
361
00:18:30,395 --> 00:18:32,925
Maybe it was a mistake.
What kind of mistake?
362
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,080
I know how it can be.
You have a little too much to drink.
363
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,760
You do things you regret.
I'm not an alcoholic.
364
00:18:38,795 --> 00:18:40,720
This was a one-off.
365
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,040
Don't you think I'd remember
doing something like that?
366
00:18:45,075 --> 00:18:47,000
Not necessarily.
367
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560
This is crazy. I didn't do this.
368
00:18:54,595 --> 00:18:56,565
I couldn't.
369
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,880
OK, what about the next morning,
then?
370
00:18:58,915 --> 00:19:01,125
Lucas, you had blood on your clothes,
yes?
371
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,960
Well, yes, I cut my head in the
accident. Of course there was blood.
372
00:19:04,995 --> 00:19:08,040
Maybe there was more blood
than there should have been.
373
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,365
No.
374
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,485
No, there wasn't.
375
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,240
What did you do with the clothes?
I washed them.
376
00:19:16,275 --> 00:19:18,960
I don't know anything about how
these people died.
377
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,760
OK.
378
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,520
So, what is it that you see
in your dreams?
379
00:19:30,555 --> 00:19:32,480
In my dreams?
Yeah.
380
00:19:32,515 --> 00:19:34,565
You're joking?
381
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,920
Well, you have dreamed about
killing them, haven't you?
382
00:19:37,955 --> 00:19:41,240
So you tell me in your dream
how do you get into the house?
383
00:19:41,275 --> 00:19:43,325
You don't have a key.
384
00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,320
What do you do?
Do you look for a spare? Or...
385
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,400
.. try and get in through a window?
386
00:19:49,435 --> 00:19:52,117
You know what I think, Lucas?
387
00:19:52,152 --> 00:19:54,800
I think you started to walk home.
388
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,760
Without realising,
you ended up at your old house.
389
00:19:58,795 --> 00:20:00,777
I think he could be on the verge.
390
00:20:00,812 --> 00:20:02,760
Then this should push him over.
391
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,845
Prints a match.
392
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,040
You certainly don't notice
that your old security door
393
00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:11,045
has been taken away.
394
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,120
How would I know that?
I haven't been there since we moved.
395
00:20:14,155 --> 00:20:16,165
That's just it.
396
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,160
That's why we went, isn't it?
397
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760
He's our killer.
398
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,520
And he doesn't
even remember doing it.
399
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:49,140
My Lord, Mr Boyd
has no history of violent behaviour.
400
00:20:49,175 --> 00:20:51,697
He is a well-respected university
lecturer
401
00:20:51,732 --> 00:20:54,220
with strong ties to the local
community.
402
00:20:54,255 --> 00:20:56,265
But with no immediate family nearby
403
00:20:56,300 --> 00:20:58,785
and a double murder charge hanging
over him,
404
00:20:58,820 --> 00:21:02,020
neither of which provide much
incentive to stick around.
405
00:21:02,055 --> 00:21:04,065
Bail is refused.
406
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,980
Mr Boyd, you will be remanded into
custody.
407
00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:12,260
He's in a state of shock.
408
00:21:12,295 --> 00:21:14,337
He's hardly a flight risk.
409
00:21:14,372 --> 00:21:16,345
Another of your lost lambs?
410
00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:19,820
The man has been completely
steam-rollered by the police.
411
00:21:19,855 --> 00:21:23,260
There's still his thumbprint
in the victims' blood. Partial.
412
00:21:23,295 --> 00:21:25,465
Which means
it's only a partial match.
413
00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:29,500
Close enough to satisfy an expert.
Assuming you can use it as evidence.
414
00:21:29,535 --> 00:21:31,505
Why wouldn't we be?
415
00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:33,585
Because of the way it was obtained.
416
00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:35,800
Lucas Boyd was arrested purely to
allow
417
00:21:35,835 --> 00:21:38,027
the police to take his fingerprints.
418
00:21:38,062 --> 00:21:40,241
Because they had reasonable
suspicion
419
00:21:40,276 --> 00:21:42,420
based on a reliable witness
statement.
420
00:21:42,455 --> 00:21:44,465
A second-hand account of a dream.
421
00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:47,700
An account that came from Lucas
Boyd's own solicitor.
422
00:21:47,735 --> 00:21:49,985
Are you claiming privilege?
Of course.
423
00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:53,660
It was a personal phone call.
It's a bit of a long shot. We'll see.
424
00:21:53,695 --> 00:21:56,065
Nothing ventured, nothing gained,
Jacob.
425
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:58,500
Did you learn nothing
from our time together?
426
00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,905
Mags was my mistress.
Pupil mistress.
427
00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:06,300
And you thought
you knew it all even then.
428
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:15,460
My Lord, the rules on legal
professional privilege protect
429
00:22:15,495 --> 00:22:19,260
all communications between a
solicitor and his or her client.
430
00:22:19,295 --> 00:22:21,105
That may be so but the fact remains
431
00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:24,220
that the witness was not under
instruction by the defendant.
432
00:22:24,255 --> 00:22:27,345
Miss Byers had previously handled my
client's divorce.
433
00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:31,340
So it's reasonable to assume that if
he required further legal advice,
434
00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:33,740
she would be the person
that he would call.
435
00:22:33,775 --> 00:22:35,785
As he in fact did.
436
00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:39,300
He made a personal phone call during
which he discussed the murders.
437
00:22:39,335 --> 00:22:41,345
He disclosed personal information
438
00:22:41,380 --> 00:22:44,000
believing it would be treated as
confidential.
439
00:22:44,035 --> 00:22:46,585
To use it as grounds for arrest was
unlawful,
440
00:22:46,620 --> 00:22:49,705
so the fingerprints the police
subsequently obtained
441
00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:53,180
cannot be used as evidence.
I accept your logic, Ms Rumsfield,
442
00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:55,585
but issues of confidentiality aside,
443
00:22:55,620 --> 00:22:58,540
the print obtained from Mr Boyd
proved to be a match.
444
00:22:58,575 --> 00:23:00,385
As I'm sure you're aware,
445
00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:03,300
partial prints have been known to be
misleading.
446
00:23:03,335 --> 00:23:06,180
Less so, when combined
with bloodstains, My Lord.
447
00:23:06,215 --> 00:23:08,580
DNA from both victims
has now been retrieved
448
00:23:08,615 --> 00:23:10,505
from the defendant's clothing
449
00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:14,020
which Miss Rumsfield appears
to have conveniently forgotten.
450
00:23:14,055 --> 00:23:17,500
That would certainly seem
to reduce the margin for error.
451
00:23:17,535 --> 00:23:20,025
Ms Rumsfield,
your application is refused.
452
00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:24,860
My client will be relying on a
defence of non-insane automatism.
453
00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,460
I don't understand!
We know he killed them!
454
00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,465
He's not even denying it.
455
00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:33,540
So why isn't he pleading guilty?
456
00:23:33,575 --> 00:23:35,617
It all comes down to intention.
457
00:23:35,652 --> 00:23:37,625
To get a verdict of murder,
458
00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:40,700
we have to show that Lucas Boyd
meant to kill your parents.
459
00:23:40,735 --> 00:23:42,777
He stabbed them over a dozen times.
460
00:23:42,812 --> 00:23:44,785
Of course he meant to kill them.
461
00:23:44,820 --> 00:23:48,080
But because he didn't know them
and had no obvious motive,
462
00:23:48,115 --> 00:23:51,340
the defence say he didn't know
what he was doing. So what?
463
00:23:51,375 --> 00:23:53,385
They're still dead.
464
00:23:53,420 --> 00:23:55,505
My mum and dad are gone
because of him
465
00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:58,425
whether he knew what he was doing or
not. Exactly.
466
00:23:58,460 --> 00:24:01,500
And we're going to make sure the jury
don't forget that.
467
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,060
I never met those people.
468
00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:10,100
I've no idea why...
469
00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:15,620
How does it make you feel?
470
00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:20,180
I have nightmares.
471
00:24:20,215 --> 00:24:22,185
All the time.
472
00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:24,260
It's like I'm there. I can see them.
473
00:24:24,295 --> 00:24:26,220
But I still don't know why.
474
00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:31,300
And I don't even know
if the nightmares are true.
475
00:24:31,335 --> 00:24:33,260
I don't even know if I did it.
476
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:36,100
You still don't remember?
477
00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:40,820
So what do you remember?
478
00:24:44,540 --> 00:24:46,545
We'd been to a bar.
479
00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:48,585
Josh and I left together.
480
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:50,900
I remember music playing in the car.
481
00:24:50,935 --> 00:24:53,180
Then I must have swerved or
something.
482
00:24:53,215 --> 00:24:55,197
I hit a lamp post
483
00:24:55,232 --> 00:24:57,180
and I hit my head.
484
00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:01,460
Then Josh hailed a cab.
485
00:25:01,495 --> 00:25:03,877
And what did you do?
486
00:25:03,912 --> 00:25:06,260
I thought I walked home.
487
00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:09,300
But you didn't.
488
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:13,060
I don't know.
489
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,340
An alcoholic blackout
combined with the head injury
490
00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:20,897
could have set off his associative
episode.
491
00:25:20,932 --> 00:25:23,420
It's possible he didn't know what he
was doing
492
00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:25,705
and genuinely
doesn't remember it now.
493
00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:28,660
Even if he had a blackout,
he caused it by drinking.
494
00:25:28,695 --> 00:25:30,865
So he's still guilty
of manslaughter.
495
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:34,660
Except with multiple factors, we
can't say which one triggered it.
496
00:25:34,695 --> 00:25:37,540
If it's the head injury,
that's a different story.
497
00:25:37,575 --> 00:25:39,585
So he could walk?
498
00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:42,940
Never mind the dead couple
he left lying in their own blood.
499
00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:44,980
Are we missing the obvious here?
500
00:25:45,015 --> 00:25:47,025
The guy got drunk,
501
00:25:47,060 --> 00:25:49,265
got worked up,
went looking for his ex,
502
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,305
but ended up at the wrong house
because he was pissed.
503
00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:55,940
He knew exactly what he was doing, he
just did it to the wrong people.
504
00:25:55,975 --> 00:25:58,917
There's no conscious motive for
wanting to kill the ex-wife.
505
00:25:58,952 --> 00:26:01,860
Maybe he regretted he'd let her walk
off with the money.
506
00:26:01,895 --> 00:26:03,905
This was bloody and frenzied.
507
00:26:03,940 --> 00:26:06,225
I'd say the motivation
was more primal.
508
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:09,660
Well, money or passion,
they both take us back to the ex.
509
00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:14,460
No, not Lucas.
510
00:26:14,495 --> 00:26:16,460
It's crazy.
511
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,660
Do you still see each other?
512
00:26:20,695 --> 00:26:22,705
Occasionally.
513
00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:26,260
We've... tried to remain civilised
through everything.
514
00:26:26,295 --> 00:26:28,317
Just because we're no longer
together
515
00:26:28,352 --> 00:26:30,340
doesn't mean I don't care about him.
516
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:35,060
You must have both been under a great
deal of pressure with the trial?
517
00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:37,065
It wasn't like that.
518
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,120
I know what you're trying to do.
519
00:26:39,155 --> 00:26:41,105
You think Lucas must be harbouring
520
00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:43,580
some kind of seething resentment
against me.
521
00:26:43,615 --> 00:26:45,585
But it's not true.
522
00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:47,665
The marriage just wasn't working.
523
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,900
Yes, I instigated divorce
proceedings
524
00:26:49,935 --> 00:26:51,860
but it was completely amicable.
525
00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:54,825
According to his solicitor,
526
00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:58,500
Lucas only agreed to the divorce
because it was Camilla's idea.
527
00:26:58,535 --> 00:27:00,857
That was the basis
of their relationship.
528
00:27:00,892 --> 00:27:03,145
She said, "Jump",
he said, "How high?"
529
00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:06,460
So 18 months later, he has to accept
she's not coming back.
530
00:27:06,495 --> 00:27:09,740
He thinks about those years
being treated like dirt. He cracks.
531
00:27:09,775 --> 00:27:12,140
The husband scorned,
that we can work with.
532
00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:17,865
So in your professional opinion,
Miss Byers,
533
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:22,020
if anyone had grounds for divorce, it
would have been your client Mr Boyd?
534
00:27:22,055 --> 00:27:23,945
That's correct. There had been
535
00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:26,620
multiple examples of unreasonable
behaviour.
536
00:27:26,655 --> 00:27:29,225
They hadn't been on holiday
for three years,
537
00:27:29,260 --> 00:27:32,880
because his wife hadn't wanted to
take the time off work.
538
00:27:32,915 --> 00:27:36,500
And their sexual relationship
had ended some time before
539
00:27:36,535 --> 00:27:38,825
because of Ms Mallon's
intimacy issues.
540
00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:42,020
Yet in the end, he not only agreed to
let her divorce him,
541
00:27:42,055 --> 00:27:44,940
but he also agreed to an 80/20 split
of their assets.
542
00:27:44,975 --> 00:27:47,380
Do you know why he chose this course
of action?
543
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,740
He told me he wanted to give
his wife whatever she wanted.
544
00:27:51,775 --> 00:27:54,825
Then perhaps she'd realise
she was making a mistake.
545
00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:59,340
So he didn't actually want the
divorce to go through? No.
546
00:27:59,375 --> 00:28:01,385
And yet the divorce did go through?
547
00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:05,340
And Mr Boyd was left with nothing
but a burning sense of injustice...
548
00:28:05,375 --> 00:28:08,380
My Lord, Mr Thorne is indulging in
lurid speculation.
549
00:28:08,415 --> 00:28:10,860
Save it for your closing speech,
Mr Thorne.
550
00:28:10,895 --> 00:28:12,905
Certainly, My Lord.
551
00:28:12,940 --> 00:28:16,020
I'm merely pointing out that the
defence of automatism
552
00:28:16,055 --> 00:28:17,985
implies that Mr Boyd experienced
553
00:28:18,020 --> 00:28:20,300
a total loss of control over his
actions,
554
00:28:20,335 --> 00:28:22,185
whereas harbouring a grudge
555
00:28:22,220 --> 00:28:25,660
and deciding to kill your ex-wife
is a very different matter
556
00:28:25,695 --> 00:28:28,277
whether you end up in the right house
or not.
557
00:28:28,312 --> 00:28:30,825
Have you ever had a drunken
blackout?
558
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:33,380
Lost a few hours here and there
as a student.
559
00:28:33,415 --> 00:28:35,505
I threw up in someone's garden.
Nice.
560
00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:39,340
But your expert agrees it could have
been a disassociative episode.
561
00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:41,385
In theory. But now we've shown Boyd
562
00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:43,545
had a motive for wanting his wife
dead,
563
00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:46,100
the automatism defence seems too
convenient.
564
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:56,980
So is this where you soften me up,
try to get me to lower the charges?
565
00:28:57,015 --> 00:29:00,660
Nothing so gauche. I'm simply buying
you a drink to say thank you.
566
00:29:00,695 --> 00:29:02,705
OK. Thank you for what?
567
00:29:02,740 --> 00:29:05,740
Establishing
my client's new defence.
568
00:29:05,775 --> 00:29:07,785
We're changing to loss of control
569
00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:10,240
as a result
of Battered Person Syndrome.
570
00:29:10,275 --> 00:29:12,660
Right. Who's supposed
to have battered who?
571
00:29:12,695 --> 00:29:14,705
It appears Mr Boyd
572
00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:17,820
was subjected to sustained mental
and emotional abuse
573
00:29:17,855 --> 00:29:19,865
throughout his marriage.
574
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:23,600
But like many victims, was unable to
admit it, even to himself.
575
00:29:23,635 --> 00:29:27,300
Fortunately, your witness was able
to bring the situation to light.
576
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,745
Come off it, Mags.
577
00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:33,385
Male spousal abuse
is a serious issue, Jacob.
578
00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:37,200
So it'd be highly unethical
to use it as a cynical ploy.
579
00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:41,007
Absolutely. But what we have here
is a genuine tragedy.
580
00:29:41,042 --> 00:29:44,780
Lucas Boyd was as much a victim
as the people he killed.
581
00:29:44,815 --> 00:29:47,220
Try and tell that to their daughter.
582
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,505
Battered Person Syndrome?
583
00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:53,105
Hoist by your own petard.
She's taken your motive
584
00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:56,580
and turned it into a defence.
Why not stick with automatism?
585
00:29:56,615 --> 00:29:59,537
At least she had a chance of a
complete acquittal.
586
00:29:59,572 --> 00:30:02,460
Failing that, she could have pushed
for manslaughter.
587
00:30:02,495 --> 00:30:04,545
What it does is paint Boyd as a
victim.
588
00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:07,900
With an unsympathetic jury,
he could be looking at murder.
589
00:30:07,935 --> 00:30:09,945
But now instead of an angry bloke,
590
00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:13,420
he becomes a nice guy who knocked his
head and finally snapped
591
00:30:13,455 --> 00:30:16,025
after years of mental cruelty.
It won't work.
592
00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:19,065
He didn't kill his so-called abuser.
He killed the Lerners.
593
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:22,540
Battered Person Syndrome is no
defence against killing strangers.
594
00:30:22,575 --> 00:30:25,357
But so long as he believed he was
killing his ex,
595
00:30:25,392 --> 00:30:28,140
Mags can argue that the history of
abuse is relevant.
596
00:30:28,175 --> 00:30:30,420
Then you'll have to redress the
balance.
597
00:30:30,455 --> 00:30:32,380
I want him put away for murder.
598
00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,585
The sad truth is, in our society,
599
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:38,865
male spousal abuse is still largely
treated as a joke.
600
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:43,420
And would you say the defendant fits
the profile of an abused spouse?
601
00:30:43,455 --> 00:30:45,465
Absolutely.
602
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:48,100
Lucas was repeatedly
criticised and humiliated
603
00:30:48,135 --> 00:30:50,217
in front of friends and family.
604
00:30:50,252 --> 00:30:52,265
His ex-wife controlled the finances
605
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,860
and would frequently withhold
money and sex
606
00:30:54,895 --> 00:30:57,020
as a means of control and punishment.
607
00:30:57,055 --> 00:30:59,665
So he must have hated his wife?
608
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,385
On the contrary,
he loved her very much.
609
00:31:02,420 --> 00:31:05,540
He was desperate for Camilla
to become more affectionate
610
00:31:05,575 --> 00:31:08,260
and for them to forge
a healthier relationship.
611
00:31:08,295 --> 00:31:10,305
And yet he wanted her dead?
612
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:13,020
There can come a point where the
victim realises
613
00:31:13,055 --> 00:31:15,157
he must break free of his abuser.
614
00:31:15,192 --> 00:31:17,260
By violent means if necessary.
615
00:31:17,295 --> 00:31:19,305
And in your opinion,
616
00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:22,060
is that what happened on the night
of the murders?
617
00:31:22,095 --> 00:31:24,020
Yes. I believe so.
618
00:31:26,540 --> 00:31:28,585
Dr Bligh,
619
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:31,500
how common is it for victims of
spousal abuse
620
00:31:31,535 --> 00:31:34,260
to ultimately kill his or her abuser?
621
00:31:34,295 --> 00:31:36,305
Not that common.
622
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:39,680
But in some cases... People who've
been through a painful divorce
623
00:31:39,715 --> 00:31:43,020
frequently get drunk and get angry
about the past, do they not?
624
00:31:43,055 --> 00:31:45,037
Yes, of course. But...
625
00:31:45,072 --> 00:31:47,020
Nothing more, My Lord.
626
00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:52,025
Lucas,
627
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:54,780
is it true that your ex-wife
abandoned you
628
00:31:54,815 --> 00:31:57,025
in the middle of your honeymoon
629
00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:59,780
because she decided to return to
work early?
630
00:31:59,815 --> 00:32:01,740
She was negotiating a big deal.
631
00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:04,860
She said it was bad timing.
632
00:32:04,895 --> 00:32:06,905
And was it bad timing
633
00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:10,300
when you locked yourself out
one night after a faculty party
634
00:32:10,335 --> 00:32:12,940
and Camilla
refused to open the door?
635
00:32:12,975 --> 00:32:14,945
She had an early meeting
636
00:32:14,980 --> 00:32:17,025
so she'd asked me not to wake her.
637
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:19,960
So you were left out
in the cold and rain
638
00:32:19,995 --> 00:32:22,860
and had to resort to forcing a
window
639
00:32:22,895 --> 00:32:25,385
and climbing into your own home?
640
00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:28,620
Like a burglar? Despite the fact
that your wife was inside?
641
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:31,865
She...
642
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:34,825
She felt bad the next day.
And it only happened once.
643
00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:39,180
How many times did she tell you
you should get a better-paid job
644
00:32:39,215 --> 00:32:41,540
because she was sick
of supporting you?
645
00:32:41,575 --> 00:32:43,500
Camilla had very high standards.
646
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:46,700
Something I loved about her.
647
00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:50,660
And how often did she tell you
she loved you?
648
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,620
She did tell you she loved you?
649
00:32:55,655 --> 00:32:57,905
You were married after all.
650
00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:00,400
You were meant to be sharing a life
together.
651
00:33:00,435 --> 00:33:02,860
Camilla found it hard
to be affectionate.
652
00:33:02,895 --> 00:33:05,257
And that could be hurtful sometimes.
653
00:33:05,292 --> 00:33:07,620
But I knew that she cared about me.
654
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:11,100
And I loved her...
655
00:33:11,135 --> 00:33:13,060
very much.
656
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:17,620
No further questions, My Lord.
657
00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:22,385
Let's leave it there, Mr Thorne.
658
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:26,020
We'll resume at 10:00am on Monday
with your cross-examination.
659
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,100
Of course, My Lord.
660
00:33:29,135 --> 00:33:31,100
Court will rise!
661
00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:37,740
Camilla!
662
00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:41,260
You can't let him upset you.
663
00:33:41,295 --> 00:33:43,300
Did you hear what he said?
664
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:50,305
The depressing thing is
the jury seem to be buying it.
665
00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:54,180
A lot of men feel emasculated by
a woman being the main breadwinner.
666
00:33:54,215 --> 00:33:57,180
Never understood it myself.
I'd like to be a kept man.
667
00:33:57,215 --> 00:33:59,665
Sadly, Mrs Sharpe is not amenable.
668
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:03,100
So it all comes down to how many of
the jury resent their wives?
669
00:34:03,135 --> 00:34:05,177
How many heart strings Mags pulls.
670
00:34:05,212 --> 00:34:07,185
Sounds like she played a blinder.
671
00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:09,700
Yep, the wronged husband
intent on defending
672
00:34:09,735 --> 00:34:11,700
the abusive wife till the bitter end.
673
00:34:11,735 --> 00:34:13,777
It's a clever choice.
674
00:34:13,812 --> 00:34:15,785
What if he was wronged?
675
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:17,825
What do you mean?
I don't know.
676
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:20,600
I saw Camilla with Josh Shelton
outside the court.
677
00:34:20,635 --> 00:34:23,305
Was he offering her support in her
hour of need?
678
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:27,260
He wasn't snogging her outside the
Old Bailey if that's what you mean.
679
00:34:27,295 --> 00:34:29,740
Far from it.
From the way they were arguing,
680
00:34:29,775 --> 00:34:31,780
I got the impression...
681
00:34:31,815 --> 00:34:33,740
Lovers' tiff?
682
00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:37,220
If Lucas thought Camilla
had a lover...
683
00:34:37,255 --> 00:34:39,265
It's a big "if".
684
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,580
Then it could explain why he killed
David as well as Elaine.
685
00:34:42,615 --> 00:34:44,585
Mags can hardly run loss of control
686
00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:47,660
based on him finding out his wife
was having an affair.
687
00:34:47,695 --> 00:34:49,700
The judge would
throw it out of court.
688
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:54,905
OK, then we talk to Camilla.
689
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:57,660
But if I've got to poke around
in the intimate details
690
00:34:57,695 --> 00:34:59,940
of the woman's love life, you're
coming with me.
691
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,800
I know you must think
I'm some kind of monster.
692
00:35:13,835 --> 00:35:16,560
After all the things
they've said about me. But...
693
00:35:16,595 --> 00:35:18,520
you have no idea.
694
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,000
I tried.
695
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,125
I really tried.
696
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,800
When we first met,
Lucas seemed so...
697
00:35:27,835 --> 00:35:29,845
gentle and sweet.
698
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,760
And then I started
to see how needy he was.
699
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,125
He needed constant reassurance.
700
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,820
He wouldn't believe
that I wanted to be with him.
701
00:35:38,855 --> 00:35:41,247
He was convinced
that I was going to leave him
702
00:35:41,282 --> 00:35:43,640
or that I must be sleeping with
other men.
703
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,565
Yes, I know.
704
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,360
But he didn't even want me
to see my friends.
705
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Tell them about the night
he broke in.
706
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,160
Lucas told you I locked him out.
707
00:36:01,195 --> 00:36:03,160
But that's not what happened.
708
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,440
I managed to persuade him that...
709
00:36:08,475 --> 00:36:10,485
we needed some time apart.
710
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,160
And he agreed to stay
with a friend for a few days.
711
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,720
I went to bed and I put the dead
bolt on the door.
712
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,045
I woke up at 2:00 in the morning
713
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,400
to find him standing at the foot of
the bed.
714
00:36:26,435 --> 00:36:28,360
Sobbing.
715
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920
He had broken
through the kitchen window
716
00:36:33,955 --> 00:36:35,920
and he was holding a knife.
717
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,360
He told me that if...
718
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,640
.. if I didn't let him come home,
then he'd kill himself.
719
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,885
And you believed him?
720
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,920
Part of me thought it was an act.
721
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
But I could never be sure
and that's why I stayed.
722
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960
But then I met Josh and...
723
00:37:00,995 --> 00:37:02,960
I knew I had to leave.
724
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,080
For my own sanity.
725
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,645
I just...
726
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,720
never knew how
to tell Lucas about us.
727
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880
You're sure he doesn't already know?
728
00:37:14,915 --> 00:37:16,925
No, there's no way.
729
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,060
We were very careful.
We'd never go out in London.
730
00:37:20,095 --> 00:37:23,160
And if we go away for a weekend,
we travel separately.
731
00:37:23,195 --> 00:37:25,205
Even now after all this time?
732
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,280
Camilla is still scared
about what he might do to himself.
733
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,125
Maybe we're wrong.
734
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,560
If Lucas knew all this time
why wait till now to do something?
735
00:37:37,595 --> 00:37:39,697
He can't keep his emotions in check.
736
00:37:39,732 --> 00:37:42,046
What if we're looking at it
backwards?
737
00:37:42,081 --> 00:37:44,325
What if it wasn't slow-burning
resentment?
738
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,840
What if something happened the night
of the murders to trigger it?
739
00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:50,880
He got drunk and hit his head.
But why did he get drunk?
740
00:37:50,915 --> 00:37:53,365
He never usually drinks more than two
pints.
741
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560
What was different that night?
He got drunk on purpose?
742
00:37:56,595 --> 00:37:59,040
Maybe he just found out something
upsetting
743
00:37:59,075 --> 00:38:01,085
and needed to get hammered.
744
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,680
When he drove into a lamp post
that could have been deliberate?
745
00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:07,440
You didn't have plans this weekend,
did you?
746
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,400
The police took statements
from all the guys
747
00:38:12,435 --> 00:38:14,445
at the bar with Lucas and Josh.
748
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,560
And nobody spoke to Lucas about
anything more personal
749
00:38:17,595 --> 00:38:20,085
than football and university league
tables.
750
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,840
However, they all commented
that Lucas started drinking heavily
751
00:38:23,875 --> 00:38:25,885
as soon as he got to the bar.
752
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,480
Josh was adamant that no-one at work
knew about him and Camilla.
753
00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:32,005
Then he must have found out earlier.
But how?
754
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,965
100 different ways.
Maybe Lucas saw them together.
755
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Maybe Josh turned up for work
smelling of Camilla's perfume?
756
00:38:38,555 --> 00:38:41,160
Let's stick to things we can prove,
shall we?
757
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,480
What did Josh say about the early
part of the evening? Not much.
758
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,485
He was coaching a rugby match,
759
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,645
was running late, so he came
straight round to Lucas's,
760
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,920
checked a few urgent e-mails,
took a shower, drove to the bar.
761
00:38:56,955 --> 00:38:58,965
Checked his e-mails?
762
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,720
What, on his phone?
I presume so, but I can check.
763
00:39:01,755 --> 00:39:03,760
Great. You hungry?
764
00:39:03,795 --> 00:39:05,720
I'm starving.
765
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,325
Listen to this.
766
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,900
Josh's phone was low on batteries
so he borrowed Lucas's laptop.
767
00:39:14,935 --> 00:39:18,440
I checked with the police tech guys
who went over Lucas's computer.
768
00:39:18,475 --> 00:39:21,840
You got hold of them on a Saturday?
Technology never sleeps.
769
00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:23,885
They called up Lucas's history
770
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,760
and it showed Josh logged onto his
web-based e-mail account at 6:20,
771
00:39:27,795 --> 00:39:30,217
sent a few e-mails,
then closed it down.
772
00:39:30,252 --> 00:39:32,605
Ten minutes later,
someone went back online
773
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,280
and bought a printer cartridge using
Lucas Boyd's credit card details,
774
00:39:36,315 --> 00:39:39,920
then they called up and logged
straight into Josh's e-mail account.
775
00:39:39,955 --> 00:39:42,805
So Lucas went looking
for incriminating e-mails?
776
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,480
He probably just went to log on,
but cos Josh hadn't logged out,
777
00:39:46,515 --> 00:39:50,120
just closed the window... Lucas went
straight into his account.
778
00:39:50,155 --> 00:39:52,917
And saw an inbox full of e-mails
from Miss Moneypenny.
779
00:39:52,952 --> 00:39:55,680
When he opened one
it would be obvious it was Camilla.
780
00:39:55,715 --> 00:39:58,237
So much for discretion.
Yeah.
781
00:39:58,272 --> 00:40:00,725
Miss Moneypenny
and Scrummy Half,
782
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,440
not to mention all the references to
"L" coping since the divorce.
783
00:40:04,475 --> 00:40:06,817
It's not exactly the Enigma Code.
784
00:40:06,852 --> 00:40:09,046
Also Josh never clears his inbox.
785
00:40:09,081 --> 00:40:11,280
So the e-mails go back three years.
786
00:40:11,315 --> 00:40:13,445
Lucas would have realised
everything.
787
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,000
Which gives us sexual jealousy
and revenge.
788
00:40:16,035 --> 00:40:17,960
We can get him for murder.
789
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,165
Mr Boyd,
790
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,885
it's clear that despite the end of
your marriage
791
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,040
you still have very strong feelings
about your ex-wife.
792
00:40:30,075 --> 00:40:32,045
Yes, I do.
793
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,245
Even during the divorce proceedings,
794
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,480
you were hoping to salvage
the relationship?
795
00:40:36,515 --> 00:40:38,680
I hoped we might be able
to work things out.
796
00:40:38,715 --> 00:40:40,725
It must have come as a shock then
797
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,885
to find out that she'd been
unfaithful
798
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,560
and was in fact sleeping with a
colleague of yours behind your back?
799
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,805
A terrible shock, in fact.
800
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,080
My Lord, this is pure conjecture
on the part of Mr Thorne.
801
00:40:56,115 --> 00:40:58,737
These allegations are
in no way based on fact.
802
00:40:58,772 --> 00:41:01,360
On the contrary. I wish to enter
into evidence
803
00:41:01,395 --> 00:41:03,757
a printout of the e-mail
correspondence
804
00:41:03,792 --> 00:41:06,176
between Josh Shelton
and Camilla Mallon.
805
00:41:06,211 --> 00:41:08,665
A correspondence which clearly
documents
806
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,085
the couple's three-year-long
relationship
807
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,840
and which was seen by Mr Boyd
on the night he murdered the Lerners.
808
00:41:14,875 --> 00:41:16,717
Was it not, Mr Boyd?
I don't...
809
00:41:16,752 --> 00:41:18,525
Did you or did you not access
810
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,880
Josh Shelton's e-mail account on that
night? I'm not sure.
811
00:41:21,915 --> 00:41:24,565
After you saw the e-mails
you started drinking
812
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,320
to work up courage to confront your
so-called friend. I was upset.
813
00:41:28,355 --> 00:41:31,277
So you waited till you had Mr Shelton
alone in the car,
814
00:41:31,312 --> 00:41:34,200
and then you attempted to drive him
into a lamp post.
815
00:41:34,235 --> 00:41:37,117
After that you went
to find your ex-wife. No.
816
00:41:37,152 --> 00:41:39,965
No, it was a mistake.
I lost control of the car.
817
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,605
We've heard a great deal about loss
of control during this trial.
818
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,240
The defence would have us believe
that because of your loss of control
819
00:41:47,275 --> 00:41:49,885
you cannot be held accountable
for your actions.
820
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,520
But let's just stop and look at those
actions. Shall we?
821
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,645
David and Elaine Lerner...
822
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,080
were asleep in bed when you broke
into their home.
823
00:42:00,115 --> 00:42:03,257
You armed yourself with this chisel
824
00:42:03,292 --> 00:42:05,926
and then stabbed them both brutally,
825
00:42:05,961 --> 00:42:08,560
and repeatedly, until they were dead.
826
00:42:08,595 --> 00:42:10,605
Of this there is no doubt.
827
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,280
Your clothes were covered in the
victims' DNA
828
00:42:13,315 --> 00:42:15,937
and your thumb print was found in
Elaine's blood
829
00:42:15,972 --> 00:42:18,560
on the wall above the bed.
But I didn't mean to.
830
00:42:18,595 --> 00:42:20,885
We know you didn't mean to kill the
Lerners
831
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,720
because your intended victims were
your supposed friend and ex-wife.
832
00:42:24,755 --> 00:42:28,697
The trouble is you had to get drunk
in order to go through with it.
833
00:42:28,732 --> 00:42:32,640
And became so intoxicated that you
mistakenly broke into your old house
834
00:42:32,675 --> 00:42:34,965
where, consumed
with rage and jealousy,
835
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,720
you brutally murdered two innocent
strangers!
836
00:42:37,755 --> 00:42:39,765
David and Elaine Lerner!
837
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,400
Believing them to be your ex-wife
and her lover.
838
00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:45,405
No.
839
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,400
No, that isn't what happened.
840
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,365
I was upset, yeah.
841
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,360
OK, but I had a right to be.
842
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,160
I'd have done anything for you.
843
00:42:59,195 --> 00:43:01,120
You know that.
844
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,120
And all the time, you were with him.
845
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,360
I had... I had to show you
how much you'd hurt me.
846
00:43:09,395 --> 00:43:11,920
When I realised
it wasn't you in the bed,
847
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,960
I was so relieved.
848
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,200
I love you so much, Camilla.
849
00:43:22,235 --> 00:43:24,160
If I'd killed you,
850
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,520
I couldn't have lived with myself.
851
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,080
And yet you feel no such guilt
about the Lerners?
852
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,520
Would the defendant please stand?
853
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,120
Members of the jury,
854
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,360
have you reached a verdict upon
which you are all agreed?
855
00:43:46,395 --> 00:43:48,405
Yes.
856
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,400
On count one,
the murder of Elaine Lerner.
857
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,800
Do you find the defendant Mr Boyd
guilty...
858
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,120
.. or not guilty?
859
00:43:59,155 --> 00:44:01,080
Guilty.
860
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,165
And on count two,
861
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,245
the murder of David Lerner,
862
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,320
do you find the defendant Mr Boyd
guilty or not guilty?
863
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,765
Guilty.
864
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,845
'Talk about passive aggressive. '
865
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,080
The guy was still controlling
his ex-wife
866
00:44:18,115 --> 00:44:19,805
two years after their divorce
867
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,005
and he's allowed to accuse her of
mental abuse.
868
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Given how things ended up, aggressive
definitely won over passive.
869
00:44:25,595 --> 00:44:28,077
Do you think Lucas knew he'd done it
all along?
870
00:44:28,112 --> 00:44:30,560
Maybe he only started remembering
during the trial.
871
00:44:30,595 --> 00:44:32,520
That's one hell of a flashback.
872
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,120
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