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Plus size modeling is like,
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there's like this frame
of thought around it
you know, and like-
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When I first started,
I thought like-- Okay
plus size modeling,
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sometimes you think
like, oh, that section
in Walmart. You know, or--
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I would like, oh my god
I'm in this wrong section
kind of thing, you know?
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But like, I don't know.
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Plus size modeling isn't what
it used to be or what it is
in a lot of people's minds.
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If I tell people I'm a plus size
model some of them are
like, "You're plus size?"
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♪♪♪
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The smaller end of curve,
which is I hate to say it, but
from like a UK size 10 to a 14.
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And then a plus size model
here in Australia that works
the most, is a size 14.
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No, no, no, no, we
start, well in French -
it's 40, so that means 10.
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From a 14 upwards.
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Size 10, size 12.
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Then drop to a size 12.
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We go until 15.
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Now dropped to a size 10.
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Now up to size 18, size 20.
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17, uh 18 in US.
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Uh, UK 18.
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-US 12.
-Like 16 18.
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14. 44, it's 14.
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[overlapping] 16 to 20,
10, 16, 12, 10, 18, 20, 18.
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America, UK, 20, UK.
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As an editor, I've never put
a plus sized model on the cover.
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You mean curvier size?
Um, certainly Kim Kardashian.
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We would often put Kate Winslet
on the cover for example who's
a little bit more voluptuous.
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[Bronwyn] Kate Upton, Robyn
Lawley, Beyoncé, the Kardashians
and you know they've got curves.
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If you look at that pool
of women, there are big
name celebrities that are-
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embody the sense of fun,
fearlessness that is synonymous
with the Cosmo brand
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and are 18 to 35, there
aren't a hell of a lot
of women that are curvy.
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[Kellie] The perfect girls,
unfortunately, sell better
than the plus size girls.
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If we put X model on the cover,
it won't sell and that's my job.
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I'm running a business.
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So, I think people say
that they want to see this,
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but the reality is they're
not going to buy it.
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They're going to go
and buy the magazine
where the girl who's perfect
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and she's airbrushed
within an inch of her life.
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Why wouldn't you put a
random girl on the cover
who's curvy or whatever else?
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And it's like, well, because
maybe that person's mother
would buy it and the relatives,
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but if we're a mass magazine
trying to get a lot of women
to pick up and buy this
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because ultimately,
we are a business and
we need to make money.
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As we say here fit is the new
rich, it's you know people,
I think there is an element
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of that that we are a magazine
that, you know, focuses
on the AB demographic.
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So yeah that's the,
you know, educated
and wealthy individuals.
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I think there is that desire
for perfection and still in
society sometimes perfection
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means thin and trim and blonde
and blue-eyed and beautiful.
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Hi Elly, my name is Jaclyn Sarka
and I'm one of the Founders of
JAG models in New York City.
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Wanted to write you
and see if you have any
modeling representation
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or if you're looking for some.
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I'm not sure if you've ever
heard of us but myself and
my co-founder Gary Dakin
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used to run the Plus
board at FORD Models
before it closed down.
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If you have any interest
please email me back.
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We would love for you to join
our JAG roster and family.
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So yeah, they pretty much
just offered me the best
contract I could have hoped for
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and honestly I haven't even
looked at it because I'm just,
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I'm so excited that
I don't even want to
open up that book yet
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because once I get
excited about something,
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like, I can't get
my mind off of it.
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So, I'm holding back a lot of
excitement to start this part of
my life and to go to New York
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and to do those kind of photo
shoots will be insane
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and it would be mental to
do something like it would be
beyond my wildest dreams.
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[woman]...is worn by the ever
so elegant, Elly Mayday.
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Elly is gracing the stage
in this smashing five-collection
satin and lace corset.
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[audience applauding]
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My name is Elly Mayday.
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I am a plus size model.
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That's the number one question I
get asked is "How did you begin?
How did you start out?" Right?
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When I first started
out no one wanted me.
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The agencies were like "Oh,
you're not that tall, you're not
too big, you're not too small."
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So, I just thought, okay,
I've got to build my portfolio.
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And so, that's the first
thing I worked on.
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And I looked on Craigslist and
found different photographers
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that want to TFP which
I didn't know what that meant,
I had to like Google it.
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Trade for Print means
that no one gets paid.
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I approached clothing
companies because I was like,
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"Who will take my photo
and pay me for it locally?"
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I approached Cherry
Velvet Plus Clothing.
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They used me for an ad at Save
on Meats downtown Vancouver.
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That was pretty much my first
paid photo shoot, ever and
that was like pretty recently.
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That was seven,
eight months ago now.
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Seeing it in a magazine
was pretty cool too.
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It's at the back, so I'm just
saying, I'm joking with everyone
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that I'm working my way
to get on the cover.
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That's my motivation, is
working from those back
ads that no one looks at
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to the, the girl on the cover.
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My name's Laura Wells and
I'm a full-time plus size model.
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I'm also an environmental
scientist in my off time, but
full-time I work as a model.
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Never.
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I've never ever once thought
about being a model.
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Because I never thought
I could be a model.
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I always knew I was bigger.
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I'd never ever heard
of plus size modeling
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and I never used to see
pictures of girls that looked
like me in magazines.
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[chattering]
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When I was in high school and
my sister was around 12-13
years old, she became a model.
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My body shape doesn't look
anything like hers, so there
was no way in hell that
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I ever thought that
I could be a model.
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My sister was seeing agents
in New York City at the time.
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When I started getting
approached to be
a plus size model
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I thought they were crazy.
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Just thought everyone
was calling me fat and I
wasn't very happy. [chuckles]
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But after that I got approached
in Sydney again, so Mum
took me to BGM Models
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and she signed me
which was amazing.
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About two weeks later, I got
a job and it was completely
incredible and mind-blowing.
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I think it showed me, "Wow.
There, you know I can do this."
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Even though I was still
really uncomfortable.
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So, I had this dilemma,
do I be scientist Laura
or do I be model Laura?
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I thought, "Okay,
I'll give it one year.
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I'm doing modeling
for one year, that's it."
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And I did it. I modeled
in Australia for one year
and I did quite well
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and I was one of the only
full-time plus size models
in Australia at that stage.
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I worked in Germany, I worked
in South Africa, I worked
in Spain and Scotland
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and I get to go to all
these cool places and
meet all these cool people
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and model for all these
companies that I've never heard
of before. This is unreal.
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Like, who my age gets to travel
around the world and be
paid for it? That's amazing!
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lf I'd have ditched modeling
altogether, and just gone
straight to science,
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I would have been in a
completely different
position than I am now.
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And I actually wouldn't have
realized what my passion was
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if I had have gone into
a normal corporate
environmental science job.
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I wouldn't have had that
availability to me it would have
been a lot harder to get there.
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Now that I have got
that name for myself,
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I have been able to combine
the science and the modeling
a little bit, which is awesome.
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and I feel like a bit of a
Captain Planet type person,
joining my powers together.
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My name's Kerosene Deluxe.
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I am an alternative
plus size model.
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[photographer] Perfect.
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And just bring that other
hand in a little bit more.
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[Kerosene] I was born in
Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
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[chattering]
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That was an awesome
shoot, thank you guys.
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When I was in my mid-teens my
friends and I went out dancing.
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Snuck into a club a
little bit too young.
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We were dancing
and having a good time.
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And suddenly a stranger decided
to grope my chest from the back.
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Me being quite an angry
rebellious teenager at the time,
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turned around without really
thinking and punched the guy
in the nose, incredibly hard.
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That resulted in my friends,
kind of, teasing me about it
for the upcoming months,
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saying that I was
flammable like kerosene.
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When it was time for me to take
my modeling to the next level,
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I was really looking
for a new stage name.
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My friends were like well you
already have a nickname so
why don't you just use that?
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So yeah, it became Kerosene
and I just kind of added the
Deluxe part to sound fancy.
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[woman laughing]
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I never, growing up,
thought about modeling.
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I wanted to be an air
hostess or a mermaid.
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I wanted to be a dolphin
trainer as well.
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I would like, get towels and I
would wrap my legs in towels
and I would like make fake fins.
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Then, I would call my grandma
"Grandma! Come into the room."
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And I would be sitting there
with like my towel tail.
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"I'm a mermaid!"
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I still want to be a mermaid.
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I don't care if I'm 27,
I still want to be a mermaid.
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Modeling for me
happened by accident.
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One day I met a photographer
in Amsterdam who invited
me to do a photo shoot
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and I was a little bit of a ham.
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So, I was like, "Yeah, sure,
a photo shoot, fun." Modeling
can be so extremely harsh.
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It's very critical
and judgmental.
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But it's actually through
modeling that I found
my confidence.
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I don't model for the
mainstream or for the industry.
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I model to show other women
and even men that you don't have
to be perfect to be beautiful.
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You can be imperfectly perfect
and that's a wonderful thing.
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Perfect is boring anyway.
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[Laura] When people tell I'm not
a size 14, I guess, sometimes,
I get a little bit pissed off.
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When you tell a plus size model
she's not a plus size model,
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it's probably a
little bit offensive.
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You know, all I have
to do is say, "Look at
the size of my pants,
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and you'll know
that I'm a size 14."
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Technically, I am
not what the plus-size
community looks like.
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But, in the modeling
world, I am what the
plus size models look like.
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When I'm put next to a normal
sized model, then, you can
really see the difference
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and it makes it very
clear I have way bigger
hips, way bigger chest.
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Even though I have a small
waist, my waist is a lot bigger.
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Mainstream media and
mainstream fashion are using
very skinny models in a majority
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of editorials, in runway
parades, in advertising
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and the plus size model
and the plus sized community
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are quite left out from all
those mainstream media.
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And perhaps, if we were
seen a lot more in editorials
and in advertising,
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the distinction would be
made a little bit more clearer
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and that community would also
be represented a lot more.
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[Darrianne] There's been
debate after debate
about the word plus size.
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It started as purely an
industry-based terminology.
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I'm talking twenty years ago
we didn't have plus size models.
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There wasn't the word.
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We don't want a size
six or eight, we want
a plus ten, maybe
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a plus two or three sizes up.
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So, you're not a straight
size but you're a plus size.
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At the beginning, I think it
was used a lot, obviously,
because it was so new.
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Oh, she's a model, but
obviously, she is different, so
you had to call her something.
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And what do you do?
Oh, I'm a curve model
or I'm a plus model
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and they sometimes
go "Oh you shouldn't
call yourself that."
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-Like it's a bad thing.
-Yeah. Like you've
offended yourself.
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I always wanted to be a model,
and when, in my age 14, I
came to the model agency,
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they call me plus
size model, and I was
absolutely okay with that.
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Like okay, fine, am I
still a model? [laughing]
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Does the check clear?
It clears as a plus model.
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My bills are paid
being a plus model.
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I'm totally fine
being a plus model.
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When you ask me "What's
your job?" I didn't say
a plus size model.
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I said, "I'm a model." Because
I'm doing the same job as
another girl that's skinnier.
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We go to castings, we try
to get jobs, we fly around, we
go to hotels, we come back.
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We don't say "Oh,
she's a brunette model."
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It may put other women down when
we're referred to as plus size.
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Because plus size
in this industry does
range from a six to a 16.
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[Gina] Plus size is kind of seen
by some people as a negative
by using the word plus.
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But no one actually uses the
word straight size or size zero
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when they're talking
about regular models.
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So that's the kind of
the problem that is.
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It's like, why are you saying
that this girl is plus model
and this girl's just a model?
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-[Felicity] Yeah, you can't win.
-You can't win either way.
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[Clementine] I'm telling you I'm
a model. You see me, obviously,
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you guess I'm not a straight
size model, but do we need
to talk about it? I don't know.
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I don't think so. [chuckles]
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To be honest, I've never
not done an interview where
they haven't asked me that.
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It's always a question,
"What do you think
of the term plus size?"
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And I know a lot of the plus
size models-- I don't even
want to call them plus,
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I know a lot of the models have
jumped on board and have said
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we shouldn't be called plus
size and they rally up about it.
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it just needs to go away
and that question,
just, it's over, it's done.
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It's overused.
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Sorry.
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I have a huge problem
with models
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who want to dissociate
themselves from
the word plus size.
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They chose to be called
plus size models
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and they have built
huge careers around
being a plus size model.
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So, you can't rise to fame
and money and even power
on a term and embrace it then
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and then choose later on
to say "You know what? I don't
want that term anymore."
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It's in-- maybe it's true
that they're not plus size,
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but it's insulting to
the women who have
supported you from day one.
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Who have looked up to you, who
have supported your images,
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who bought the clothing
that you've worn,
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to then take back that word
and say you don't want
to be associated with it,
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or you think it's
a negative term.
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Until such time, where
I can look at anybody, and
say "I'm a plus size model"
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and they react positively
or I can look at
somebody else and say
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"I'm a model" and they can
get that I can be a model.
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We haven't made
enough progress.
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We still need that term.
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Plus size. And we
should embrace it.
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The last acceptable
prejudice in America
is against fat people.
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[Ellen] And in the ad, he
has two pictures of women
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who have a little extra
meat on their bones.
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-A little? When did we
change the definition of little?
-[laughing]
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[woman] A group calling itself
Overweight Haters Limited
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has been passing out fat shaming
business cards to passengers
on the London Underground.
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[man] New fat-shaming
problems for Donald Trump.
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Listen to what he said about a
very pregnant Kim Kardashian.
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She's gotten a little bit large.
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I would say this, I don't
think you should dress
like you weigh 120 pounds.
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Now they found that Americans
view overweight people as lazy,
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unambitious and
lacking willpower.
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Do they look dynamic? Do
they look disciplined? Do they
look highly efficient? Well, no.
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You know speaking frankly
and therefore Jay wouldn't be
someone that I would employ.
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After a person is exposed to ads
that promote body acceptance
using larger sized models,
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people are more likely to
make unhealthier decisions.
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The ads make it seem
more socially acceptable
to carry extra weight.
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Having these plus size models,
could that be contributing
to obesity in society?
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[woman] It seems to me that plus
size models and extolling them
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and making it seem
normal to be obese,
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I don't think she
looks incredible. I think
she looks unhealthy.
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It's an effective way to fight
obesity, the epidemic,
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is to shame people
into losing the weight.
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The way that they shame
smokers into quitting.
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That's another thing they say.
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Fat shaming makes people fat.
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When you junkie-shame me, it
just makes me do more heroin.
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Yeah, I don't care.
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Fuck it girls, go eat pizza.
Everybody be a plus size model.
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I want to eat cookies
and still be a Sports
Illustrated swimsuit model.
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Do you like cancer
and diabetes? If you
want fertility problems,
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then plus size is beautiful.
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To call yourself plus size is
simply a euphemism for being
fat, and who wants to be fat?
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We live in a culture that
actively supports discrimination
against weight.
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In fact, its prevalence
has been shown to be
equal to racial discrimination
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and discrimination
based on gender.
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17% of women in one particular
study said that if they were
feeling bad about their bodies
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on a particular day, they would
probably skip going to a job
interview that was scheduled.
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[Velvet] More often than
not, people will hearken
to this health issue
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and they will totally speak
nothing about how people
feel about themselves.
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And you can't talk about
health without talking
about mental health.
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You know, it seems like there's
this whole idea out there
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that shame is gonna
be effective at helping
people to change their lives.
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And if people ever lost their
shame or felt like, or stopped
feeling like there was something
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wrong with them,
they would lose their
motivation to do something.
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I've literally had a trainer
sit with another girl who
was like "Oh, I just..."
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you know, size whatever
girl, smaller girl saying
how she didn't feel good
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about herself and then
he said, "Well, at least
you don't look like her."
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And I'm like...
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I think that our medical
establishment has set it
up for all of us to believe
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that there's something wrong
with being in a heavier body,
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and that gives legitimacy
then to a popular culture
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to insult people for not
having the right body.
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I remember this experience
I had, with a black friend
of mine recently,
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where we walked into a store and
the store keeper was following
her around everywhere we went.
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And it was obvious
that the storekeeper was
expecting her to be shoplifting
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and was watching for it.
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My friend was really disturbed
by the experience
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and I remember thinking, you
know, I've got options here
about what to tell her to do.
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I could tell her that she could
bleach her skin and then maybe
she wouldn't experience that.
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Or, I could show compassion
for how difficult it is to
live in a racist world
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and acknowledge that that kind
of behavior is not okay,
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and that the problem
isn't in her
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the problem is in a
culture that tolerates
and encourages that.
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And I think that we have to
start to apply that same lens
when working with weight.
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That rather than telling
people to lose weight
and then you won't get,
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you won't experience
discrimination
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what we have to do is
name discrimination
as the problem.
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[birds chirping]
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Oh, my goodness, he's huge.
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He's like, bigger than a horse.
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My little brother's had
this pig for years now.
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It's his pet. [chuckles]
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It's funny, you actually
learn a lot about life and death
really quickly with animals,
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like, living on a farm. Cause,
I don't know, things happen.
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Life happens. Death happens.
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This tree's a lot smaller now.
319
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I used to think it
was a pretty good
feat, climbing up here.
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Good spot, no one can--
I mean-- yeah, yeah,
I liked it up here.
321
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I've thought about
a lot of stuff up here.
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I was gonna be world
famous one day.
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I made my mom take a photo
of me before a dance recital
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and I decided that I
was gonna pose like
that and everything so.
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And I hopped up there
they lift me up there
and struck my first pose.
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Yeah. That's where it all began,
superstar in the making I think.
327
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Yeah, very much the
centre of the show.
328
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She was standing on the
trampoline with her
arms out like she was a-
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I'm sure most girls
are like that, you know,
they want to be the star.
330
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You know, "Mommy!
Mommy! Mommy! Look at me!
Look at me! Look at me!"
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I'm telling ya!
That's the way it was.
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[Elly] You know I was
always posing, actually.
333
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People always told me I was
really photogenic in high school
and even in elementary school.
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I was always posing.
335
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Maybe I was meant to be
a model? I don't know.
336
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I have always been, like,
an outgoing person but,
It's just harder here.
337
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It was harder to be that way.
338
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But I needed more.
339
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I've always had this urgency
for wanting more in life,
and experiencing more, and
340
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yeah, it's nice to be back home,
I really miss my parents
and my family here.
341
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I kind of made a choice
when I was younger,
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to move away and to try
and make something of myself.
343
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You got to get out of--
you got to get out of the
small-town community
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in order to make it big,
I think, you know.
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And so, I moved to Vancouver
with that kind of dream
346
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and that kind of mentality,
is that I was gonna do
something, do something big.
347
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Currently, I am
not feeling too well.
348
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I'm going in for surgery,
in about three weeks.
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Nothing to be too concerned
about hopefully. But,
350
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something's in my stomach
that needs to come out, so.
351
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It's not a baby, don't worry.
352
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But it's been growing, and
giving me a lot of difficulty.
353
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So, I'm gonna be dealing with
that in the next little while.
354
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So, unfortunately, you won't
be seeing too many photos
coming from my page.
355
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But, hopefully, I have
enough on reserve that
you guys can enjoy.
356
00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:27,960
Yeah. Just pains in my lower
stomach and I wouldn't--
I didn't think anything of it,
357
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other than cysts,
because that's what
everyone told me that I had.
358
00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:33,632
And it was "Oh, it's
just a cyst. It's nothing
to worry about."
359
00:26:42,225 --> 00:26:47,104
Ah, this video is unlike any
other video you have seen me do.
360
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It's a little bit more intense
than anything else
I've talked about,
361
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like, hair and makeup
and clothes.
362
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This is um, this is a big one.
363
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I had surgery a month
ago on the 14th of June,
and it was a biopsy.
364
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So that was to figure out what
was going on my stomach.
365
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,711
The biopsy results came back
five days after, on June 19th
366
00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:16,592
and I was called in
and diagnosed with a low
grade serous carcinoma,
367
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which is ovarian cancer.
368
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:21,805
It's a rare, very rare
form of ovarian cancer.
369
00:27:23,016 --> 00:27:27,853
That, yeah, you don't see
in twenty-five-year-old
girls, that's for sure.
370
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Life, as I'm sure you
know, hands you some
pretty crazy things
371
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and this is the first thing
I've really come upon
in my life to deal with.
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Like this.
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So, this is the one that--
this is the one that-- that my
family and I are dealing with.
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My looks will change.
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I will change as a person.
376
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And I hope you guys
stick with me through this.
377
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:24,910
And I hope I can learn
something from you and that you
can learn something from me
378
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and that I grow from this.
379
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:29,707
My brother said to me that
he found a quote that said,
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"A person doesn't get cancer.
A family gets cancer."
And I really believe that.
381
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My parents have been
here, like, the whole time.
382
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And it's been really
great having them.
383
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My mom has looked after me.
384
00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:53,105
You need your family and
your friends when you're going
through this and I feel so awful
385
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for people that
never had anyone.
386
00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:56,400
I couldn't imagine.
387
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,165
Yeah, everything stopped.
388
00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,334
Yeah everything's
been put on hold.
389
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,336
Everything was like happening.
390
00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:22,801
The same day that I was,
that I had the port surgery
go unsuccessful,
391
00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:25,387
and find out that I still had
another tumor growing,
392
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:30,142
was the same day
I found out that I could
be going to New York.
393
00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:37,149
Yeah, it sucks.
394
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[father] I met Shanah's mother,
when I was about 21 years old.
395
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:59,463
Shanah's mother was
working in the red-light
district as a prostitute.
396
00:29:59,547 --> 00:30:06,970
I was a customer of hers,
but she did stop after
about three years.
397
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And she wanted to have a child.
398
00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:15,312
Growing up, I kind of went
in between homes a lot.
399
00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:22,194
My parents were actually
in prison for the first
few years of my life.
400
00:30:22,278 --> 00:30:25,364
So I was raised
by my grandmother.
401
00:30:25,448 --> 00:30:31,328
Officially she lived with
her mother, but her mother,
which I heard afterwards,
402
00:30:31,412 --> 00:30:38,335
her mother was often away for a
business and then leave her home
alone sometimes in the evening.
403
00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:42,089
Kerosene kept strolling
to my place because
she was home alone.
404
00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:47,261
I haven't spoken to her
since I was about 13.
405
00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:53,475
There was a lot of
physical abuse, a lot
of psychological abuse.
406
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,313
There were instances where we
would have family meetings and
407
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:04,444
everyone got to eat whatever
and desserts and I would
be the only one left out.
408
00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:07,364
She would say stuff
like, "Oh, you know" like
409
00:31:08,449 --> 00:31:12,995
ridiculous stuff, like,
"If you eat this, you'll get
HIV." And stuff like that.
410
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,248
lf she thought that Kerosene was
411
00:31:17,041 --> 00:31:22,629
too heavy, she would
comment like, you know, "You
look like a pig" or something.
412
00:31:23,339 --> 00:31:27,259
Yes, she would be
quite rude, I think.
413
00:31:27,343 --> 00:31:31,346
I remember when I was
about five years old.
414
00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:34,141
Five until about seven.
415
00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:40,147
There was a person
in the family who was
considered like an uncle
416
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:44,568
and he sexually molested me.
417
00:31:44,652 --> 00:31:50,490
Right smack in the middle
of big family gatherings
for example he would,
418
00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:55,162
you know, do little things
like, grope my chest or
419
00:31:55,246 --> 00:31:58,832
reach his hand down my
crotch and stuff like that.
420
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:03,003
I was also left alone
a lot in some of my
mother's establishments
421
00:32:03,087 --> 00:32:05,255
which were brothels.
422
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:09,092
Just to hang out there
after school and he
would often be there.
423
00:32:09,177 --> 00:32:13,180
I had expressed some
of the things that had
happened to my mother,
424
00:32:13,264 --> 00:32:15,182
and she sort of
shrugged it off.
425
00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:21,021
And was like, "Oh well,
you know it's probably
your fault" and stuff like that.
426
00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:23,565
So, I guess that always
stuck with me.
427
00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:31,323
[father] She-- she told me,
to me, but that was many
years after that happened.
428
00:32:31,407 --> 00:32:34,701
She told me, she once
told it to her mother.
429
00:32:35,411 --> 00:32:41,041
It was at the time that
we broke up already, me
and Kerosene's mother.
430
00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:45,295
And that her mother was
shouting at her about it.
431
00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:53,512
The person who did that, he is,
he passed away already because
he jumped in front of a train.
432
00:32:53,596 --> 00:32:55,597
Otherwise, I might
have pushed him.
433
00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:00,143
I shouldn't say that on camera.
434
00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:08,360
I was quite chubby my whole
life and always told
that I had pretty face.
435
00:33:08,444 --> 00:33:10,654
And there's kind of nothing
worse than that.
436
00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,615
I wish-- I kind of wish
that people just wouldn't
compliment me at all.
437
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:18,245
lf there just gonna say that
I have a pretty face, and
what, that my body is ugly?
438
00:33:18,329 --> 00:33:22,082
Like, what-- what I
am as a whole is not
pretty enough for you
439
00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:26,086
to give it an entire compliment?
Like, fuck that.
440
00:33:26,170 --> 00:33:30,966
[Laura] I was at a job and
I overheard the stylist
in the background say,
441
00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,093
"Oh fat chick. I don't know
what to do with her.
442
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:35,595
How am I supposed
to dress a fat chick?"
443
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,098
And, this was when
I had first started
modeling and that-
444
00:33:38,182 --> 00:33:41,393
it really got to
me at that time.
445
00:33:41,477 --> 00:33:44,438
But I just sucked it up and
thought, well, "Screw you
lady. I'm gonna show you
446
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,939
that I can do a great job."
447
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:51,403
And I did, and at the end
of it she, she had no idea that
I had overheard her saying that
448
00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:55,991
and she actually congratulated
me on how much of a good job
I did during the shoot.
449
00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:59,619
And I just thought, "Well, up
yours. Yeah, I showed you."
450
00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:04,666
I was doing a show with a
lot of their new models that
were really, really, skinny.
451
00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:07,627
And I was the only plus
size model at the show.
452
00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:10,130
And, I don't really
remember this at all.
453
00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:12,549
But my mom was telling me
this story a few weeks ago.
454
00:34:12,633 --> 00:34:18,096
And she said that I was so
upset, And I was crying and I
was, like, "I'm the fat model.
455
00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:19,473
I'm the only fat girl."
456
00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:24,644
The worst I had was in 2011,
when this TV commercial
came out It was-
457
00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:29,524
I got a lot of like, direct
attacks, like, on me personally
458
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:31,318
and like, it was pretty bad.
459
00:34:31,402 --> 00:34:32,652
"You're not supposed
to be model."
460
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:35,447
Or "you're too short, you're
too big, you're too thin."
461
00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:38,575
It's always like you're always
too much something.
462
00:34:38,659 --> 00:34:43,038
[Jennie] Most of the feedback
I got from the H&M
campaign was very positive.
463
00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:49,586
There was for every nine
really positive remarks,
there was always one,
464
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:52,506
where somehow, I was like,
ruining somebody's life
465
00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:54,382
for being in a swimsuit
on the beach.
466
00:34:54,467 --> 00:35:00,597
The people who are leaving the
comments after the articles,
they wasn't so kindly to me.
467
00:35:00,681 --> 00:35:04,726
"Oh, this pig! Why she naked?"
468
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,437
Somebody said, "Oh, she looks
like she could use a salad."
469
00:35:07,522 --> 00:35:10,065
And I mean, well,
I really like salad.
470
00:35:10,191 --> 00:35:13,693
There's a bunch of delivery
places around here that you can
custom make your own salad,
471
00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:15,612
and they've got great tofu! So.
472
00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:21,076
I was just feeling bad because,
by being haters to me,
473
00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:24,830
they were being haters
to all the women
that looked like me.
474
00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:30,210
I now have to take estrogen
for the rest of my life, but my
cancer is estrogen receptive.
475
00:35:30,294 --> 00:35:35,090
There's still some left
on my diaphragm that I
will be going in for chemo
476
00:35:35,216 --> 00:35:37,551
and losing my hair
within the end of the month.
477
00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:42,389
So that'll be-- that'll be
definitely something
that I'll have to deal with
478
00:35:42,473 --> 00:35:44,850
on an emotional
and physical level.
479
00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:03,118
This way I'm kind of
choosing to lose my hair,
as opposed to just losing it.
480
00:36:03,202 --> 00:36:06,329
Like, I've seen people
and it's like falling out
and that just really.
481
00:36:06,414 --> 00:36:09,082
Yeah. It's kind of disturbing
and I don't want to lose it,
482
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,418
I want to take it
off, you know?
483
00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:12,752
Oh, that's weird.
484
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:14,588
-You look so good.
-[girl] You do.
485
00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:16,715
-[woman] I love it.
-[girl] I love it.
486
00:36:16,799 --> 00:36:18,884
♪ Nothing compares ♪
487
00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:29,728
I'm gonna stay with the
modeling as much as I
can as much as my energy
488
00:36:29,812 --> 00:36:33,315
and my overall
outlook of life is.
489
00:36:33,399 --> 00:36:35,775
Because, I don't know how
to take it I don't know
how to deal with this,
490
00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:38,528
I've never known anyone
to go through cancer.
491
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:39,946
I don't know what to expect.
492
00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:55,795
Yeah, here we go.
493
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,131
And, it's already set.
494
00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:01,885
My lovely girlfriend
Nadine set my hair.
495
00:37:01,969 --> 00:37:03,470
Looks good.
496
00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:05,472
The lady at the wig store
said about four fingers.
497
00:37:05,556 --> 00:37:08,725
-Yeah, that looks really cute.
-Does that look normal?
Is it on the ball? Like...
498
00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:09,601
Yeah.
499
00:37:09,685 --> 00:37:14,606
I haven't had time to
even watch a YouTube
on how to use a wig.
500
00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:18,526
I seriously have absolutely no
time in the day, it feels like.
501
00:37:18,611 --> 00:37:20,445
And then when
I do, I'm too tired.
502
00:37:21,822 --> 00:37:26,409
I feel like it was fate that it
all kind of came down, that
I'd have this career roll out
503
00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:31,206
just the same time that
I get diagnosed with a
pretty terrible disease.
504
00:37:31,290 --> 00:37:33,500
You know stage 3
ovarian cancer.
505
00:37:34,293 --> 00:37:37,462
That's pretty harsh for a lot
of people to have to experience.
506
00:37:43,636 --> 00:37:47,347
It helps to do these
photo shoots, for like,
self-confidence.
507
00:37:47,431 --> 00:37:49,224
You know, you feel amazing
when you're doing these things.
508
00:37:49,308 --> 00:37:52,310
People are fawning over, making
sure your face looks perfect,
509
00:37:52,395 --> 00:37:53,645
and making sure
your hair looks perfect.
510
00:37:53,729 --> 00:37:55,563
There's no better feeling
in the world, probably.
511
00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:59,943
So, I'm just a typical chick
and I have confidence.
512
00:38:00,027 --> 00:38:03,613
That's the only difference
that makes me, um,
the person that I am.
513
00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:06,491
I had chemo in the morning.
514
00:38:06,575 --> 00:38:07,867
I didn't have to
get my blood test.
515
00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,245
Thank God I had that on
Wednesday, and it went well.
516
00:38:10,371 --> 00:38:12,205
So, my counts are good.
517
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:14,249
I had chemo, it was like
two and a half hours.
518
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,876
And Benadryl. Oh my god,
does it make you tired.
519
00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:24,342
I don't know how to keep up
with it like my website and
just everything my fans,
520
00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:28,221
and the demanding-- and the
demanding things are
coming my way, I just can't.
521
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,889
I'm feeling overwhelmed today.
522
00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:32,767
And I've been feeling
overwhelmed the
past couple days.
523
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,813
I walked into the living
room and told my family
that I need therapy.
524
00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:40,525
So, therapy is starting
on Wednes-- on Monday.
525
00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:43,445
I just like, walked
into the living room,
they're all sitting there,
526
00:38:43,529 --> 00:38:45,739
I just said, "I need therapy"
and I started crying.
527
00:38:47,908 --> 00:38:50,785
People think that I've got
absolutely nothing wrong
and I look gorgeous
528
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:53,621
and that I'm just
fucking living the life
right now, but I'm not.
529
00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:56,666
Like, I'm actually really
sad a lot of days.
530
00:39:01,964 --> 00:39:05,300
Oh well. That's what--
and that's just
the way that this is.
531
00:39:05,426 --> 00:39:07,594
I accept that what it is.
I knew getting into it.
532
00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:11,431
I went off estrogen. I'm
going through menopause
full force right now at 25.
533
00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:15,727
And they said it was gonna be
the hardest thing ever, to go
through chemo and menopause.
534
00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:17,896
And it sure as hell
is. Like, it's hard.
535
00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:20,982
While having fans
too, that criticize you.
536
00:39:21,067 --> 00:39:26,404
Yeah, a guy posted
on my wall the other day
that uh-- I was using cancer.
537
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:27,697
I don't want to talk...
538
00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:34,454
I was using cancer
as a platform.
539
00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:36,956
Which I'm not, at all.
540
00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:38,958
Those people have
nothing better to say...
541
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,045
Which is pretty awful, and
I knew that going in to this,
542
00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,631
but I didn't know that people
could actually do that.
543
00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:45,965
Anyone can hide behind...
544
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:48,385
I'm gonna wreck your makeup
now and you've worked so hard.
545
00:39:49,887 --> 00:39:52,430
Someone would never
say that to me, I don't
think, like, in real life
546
00:39:52,515 --> 00:39:54,516
because they realize
I'm an actual person.
547
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,602
I'm an emotional wreck, actually
548
00:39:57,686 --> 00:40:01,940
underneath all of this makeup
and this fake hair and whatever.
549
00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:07,362
I'm pretty emotionally
distraught, but I'll
get through it.
550
00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:10,490
That's why I posted on my
page, the other day,
that I was upset and-
551
00:40:10,574 --> 00:40:13,493
and then I had 60,000 people
try and lift me up. So,
552
00:40:13,577 --> 00:40:16,037
basically this shoot
is because I have fans.
553
00:40:16,122 --> 00:40:17,997
I wouldn't have been
doing this today,
554
00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:22,460
if I didn't have some support
and all the love coming at me.
555
00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:24,796
Because I read all my
comments from that.
That's what my plan was.
556
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,924
Post this photo, get-- get
them excited because then
they'll get excited for me.
557
00:40:38,936 --> 00:40:43,815
Even though no big commercial
editorial agencies will have me.
558
00:40:43,899 --> 00:40:50,738
Or, even though I probably
won't work with any
mainstream designers or stores.
559
00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:55,577
That what I'm doing is
the right thing, and
what I'm doing matters.
560
00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:02,876
When I first started modeling,
I really focused more
on the art aspect of it,
561
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,422
but once I got more
serious into the
modeling side of it,
562
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:13,720
I did try to go to a few
agencies and castings and
got really, really rejected.
563
00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:17,515
I don't like to label myself
as "plus size model"
564
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:25,398
because being an industry
standard plus size models
has about as many restrictions
565
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:28,401
and requirements as
being a straight size model.
566
00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:33,990
You have to be very
toned, tall, perfect
skin, perfect teeth.
567
00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:41,706
So yeah, I definitely will
never be and don't need
be a plus size supermodel.
568
00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:45,919
Because I am only five foot
three and I have tattoos.
569
00:41:46,003 --> 00:41:49,088
I don't have perfect
features. But that's okay.
570
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,090
I'm totally cool with that.
571
00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:56,012
Everyone was like, "You will
never get hired by anyone,
572
00:41:56,096 --> 00:42:01,935
you're five foot three,
you're full-figured
and you have tattoos."
573
00:42:02,019 --> 00:42:04,062
That's like, the triple X!
574
00:42:05,022 --> 00:42:12,612
But hey, it's, it's been over
a decade and I've worked
internationally for designers,
575
00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:15,615
for magazines, music videos.
576
00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:21,496
I really, honestly feel that
if you work hard and you're
passionate about something,
577
00:42:21,622 --> 00:42:23,665
you can make stuff
happen for yourself.
578
00:42:23,749 --> 00:42:24,541
So yeah.
579
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:27,210
Take that! Hm.
580
00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:34,300
The absolute, ultimate
goal for me would probably-
581
00:42:35,177 --> 00:42:41,516
do a really ridiculously
high-end couture runway
show, for someone really big.
582
00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:47,146
Walking amongst all the
svelte, tall, six-foot,
size zero supermodels.
583
00:42:47,231 --> 00:42:51,150
And then there's just like
me. Like, five foot three.
584
00:42:51,235 --> 00:42:53,236
Like, all jiggly on the catwalk.
585
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,074
It would just be really funny,
because a lot of people would
make such a commotion about it.
586
00:42:58,158 --> 00:43:03,162
Like what's this like, fat
tattooed person doing on
this cover or in this magazine,
587
00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:04,831
you know, on this runway.
588
00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:07,625
I would find that
really enjoyable.
589
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:10,086
Just like, "Haha,
you know. Take that!"
590
00:43:11,338 --> 00:43:15,216
If someone can get me
on that runway for-- I
don't, I don't even care,
591
00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:20,680
like Alexander McQueen,
Thierry Mugler, Vivienne
Westwood, Betsey Johnson.
592
00:43:20,764 --> 00:43:22,974
Like Betsey Johnson,
come on girl.
593
00:43:23,058 --> 00:43:24,684
That'd be awesome.
594
00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:30,064
I'll work these little love
handles-- just strutting.
595
00:43:30,149 --> 00:43:31,524
That would be awesome.
596
00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:32,942
I would love that, oh my god!
597
00:43:34,028 --> 00:43:39,532
The irony of the fact that the
fashion industry was meant
to celebrate women
598
00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:43,202
and make them, you
know, feel their best and
599
00:43:43,287 --> 00:43:50,043
give them an avenue to
express themselves, but only
if you're a size zero to eight.
600
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:56,215
Those designers are not
interested in the bigger women,
it's just as simple as that.
601
00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,219
In their eyes, plus isn't
like, worthy of their design.
602
00:44:00,304 --> 00:44:04,599
[Kimberly] For them it's,
it's really not about
creating fashion for her
603
00:44:04,683 --> 00:44:06,851
as much as-- as much as it is,
604
00:44:07,811 --> 00:44:12,732
just creating pieces, that
them their-selves as a
designer are comfortable seeing.
605
00:44:12,816 --> 00:44:17,278
[Cameron] So, I, I think
unfortunately, there's a
segment of the population
606
00:44:17,363 --> 00:44:22,992
that's just constantly being
left out and, ironically, it's
really the largest segment.
607
00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,620
It's ridiculous!
608
00:44:25,704 --> 00:44:31,084
There is a perception that
having a sort of straight up and
down model as a coat hanger,
609
00:44:31,168 --> 00:44:33,252
if you like, having an
androgynous look,
610
00:44:33,337 --> 00:44:37,131
means that the focus is
a neutral look and the
focus is on the clothing.
611
00:44:37,216 --> 00:44:40,385
Interestingly a lot of the
designers that I've worked with
612
00:44:41,261 --> 00:44:45,640
and come in contact with
are very thin themselves.
613
00:44:45,724 --> 00:44:49,352
I just noticed that, I
don't know if it's maybe
because they can't relate
614
00:44:49,436 --> 00:44:52,188
to plus sizes or they've
never been plus size.
615
00:44:52,272 --> 00:44:55,191
Because they haven't lived in
the body so they don't realize
616
00:44:55,275 --> 00:44:58,277
"Oh yes, that thing
touches that thing."
617
00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:03,032
Or, that's fine until you
sit down or stand up
or whatever it might be.
618
00:45:03,117 --> 00:45:08,871
In actual fact, if people were
to be more honest about
what society actually is
619
00:45:08,956 --> 00:45:13,042
they would actually see that
designing for plus sizes
620
00:45:13,127 --> 00:45:17,296
has huge economic benefits
for this kind of sixteen
billion dollar market
621
00:45:17,381 --> 00:45:21,175
that Forbes has quoted
in the United States alone.
622
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:24,846
[Anna] The problem comes
from designers you know we're
teaching fashion students
623
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:27,807
to make clothes
only in sample sizes.
624
00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:29,976
and that's what
they learn how to do.
625
00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:33,146
[Robert] ln most design
schools and-- and also in ours,
626
00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:38,067
we'll work on size eight
or ten, to make samples.
627
00:45:54,251 --> 00:46:00,131
My idea was to make a plus
size collection for my
final project in school.
628
00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:06,179
And I just went to the
directives and asked them
about their permission to-
629
00:46:06,263 --> 00:46:08,055
to allow me to do this.
630
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:12,435
Hi there Doris, I have spoken
with the other faculty
members and unfortunately
631
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:16,272
you won't be able
to work with plus sized
models this time around.
632
00:46:16,356 --> 00:46:21,986
Aside from needing a completely
different fit model, three
different additional models
633
00:46:22,070 --> 00:46:27,283
would need to be hired for
the show which is incredibly
expensive, money.
634
00:46:27,367 --> 00:46:32,288
This is extremely complicated
for even the most
experienced designer.
635
00:46:32,372 --> 00:46:35,750
We would ask that you continue
making your current collection
636
00:46:35,876 --> 00:46:40,004
but adapt it to the school's
standard blocks and models.
637
00:46:40,088 --> 00:46:45,718
I really feel sad because
it was my, my dream,
like to do my first collection
638
00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:47,887
about plus size women.
639
00:46:47,971 --> 00:46:51,766
But when they reject me,
they rejected my idea.
640
00:46:51,892 --> 00:46:58,064
So, I feel frustrated like,
I decided just to do what
they want me to do it
641
00:46:58,148 --> 00:46:59,941
for now until I finish school.
642
00:47:00,025 --> 00:47:04,403
And after that, I know
that I'm gonna be free
to do just whatever I want.
643
00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:08,741
So even if the educational
system is not
teaching plus fashion.
644
00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,076
I didn't learn plus fashion.
645
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,746
But I've been plus size
and I knew that that's
what I wanted to do.
646
00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,331
So, I practiced.
647
00:47:49,992 --> 00:47:55,288
[Kimberly] But I do think that
it's unfortunate that so many
don't want to explore it.
648
00:47:56,206 --> 00:48:03,212
And I think, actually, it has a
lot to do with they feel like it
would kind of mar their brand.
649
00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:05,172
It's just-- it's a
dirty little game.
650
00:48:07,926 --> 00:48:10,803
So, I've got something a little
odd that I keep in my model bag
651
00:48:10,888 --> 00:48:13,472
and take with me to shoots, and
I don't always need to use it.
652
00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:18,811
But on some occasions
the client will ask for me
to look a little bit bigger.
653
00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:21,814
So, I carry with me a fat suit.
654
00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:24,483
Or if I want to be politically
correct, padding.
655
00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:31,198
So, so far, I've been able to
pad out my hips, my thighs
and my stomach section.
656
00:48:31,283 --> 00:48:34,994
All through here.
So, I've added at least a
size and a half to my body.
657
00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:37,955
And this will allow me to
wear bigger size clothing.
658
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,835
Especially the sample sizes,
if they don't come in a size
14 and they come in a size 16,
659
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,841
this will allow me to fill them
a lot more, true to the size,
instead of having to be pinned.
660
00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:52,219
A few years ago, I started
working for ASOS curve division.
661
00:48:52,304 --> 00:48:56,432
They had originally gone with
what their customers wanted.
662
00:48:56,516 --> 00:49:01,270
Their customers wanted to
see girls that were a size
20, 22 modeling the clothes.
663
00:49:01,355 --> 00:49:06,400
Because that was representative
of who the customers were
who were buying the clothes.
664
00:49:06,485 --> 00:49:08,069
And none of the clothes sold.
665
00:49:08,153 --> 00:49:10,404
They just weren't,
weren't selling.
666
00:49:10,489 --> 00:49:16,118
And I moved to the UK and I
started working for ASOS and as
soon as they started using me,
667
00:49:16,203 --> 00:49:21,707
as a size 16 UK, the
clothes started flying
off the shelves again.
668
00:49:22,459 --> 00:49:25,503
Companies in America that
I've worked for Macy's, Kohl's,
669
00:49:25,587 --> 00:49:27,588
Bloomingdale's where
we use padding,
670
00:49:27,673 --> 00:49:32,259
when we work there and
it's not all girls and it's
not all areas of your body.
671
00:49:32,344 --> 00:49:35,012
For me it's usually
just my mid area.
672
00:49:35,097 --> 00:49:36,931
To fill me out there.
673
00:49:37,057 --> 00:49:40,935
And that's why we have
plus size models that
are size 12, 14 and 16.
674
00:49:41,019 --> 00:49:45,648
Because, that's what people
are showing they want
with their buying power.
675
00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:51,153
No, I do have that moral
conscious of is it the right
reason that I'm doing it.
676
00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:54,073
But at the end of the day, it
comes down to paying my bills
677
00:49:54,157 --> 00:49:56,659
and if I have to
pad to get the job
678
00:49:56,743 --> 00:50:01,956
to pay my bills to be able
to eat that week, then
that's what I'm going to do.
679
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,959
I think padding is the
industry's dirty little secret.
680
00:50:05,043 --> 00:50:09,255
It's something that not many
people know of and even
when I turn up to jobs,
681
00:50:09,339 --> 00:50:11,674
and I say "Oh, I've got
my padding here today."
682
00:50:11,758 --> 00:50:14,510
The stylists sometimes
look at me and laugh.
683
00:50:14,594 --> 00:50:17,346
It's really funny to work
with straight size models
684
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,432
because, when you come
out with your padding on,
685
00:50:19,516 --> 00:50:21,434
they can hardly
believe their eyes.
686
00:50:21,518 --> 00:50:25,646
They're in an industry that
tells them to lose weight
to be as skinny as possible,
687
00:50:25,731 --> 00:50:29,608
and then when a model
that they're working
side-by-side with comes out
688
00:50:29,693 --> 00:50:35,614
in a padded suit, they just lose
it! They laugh and just think
"Wow, you've got it really easy.
689
00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:40,077
I'm told to lose weight
constantly and here you are
pretending to be bigger."
690
00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:46,125
I'm so tired of that line
selling a dream because you're-
691
00:50:46,209 --> 00:50:50,463
most of your customers
are, are never going to
achieve that dream.
692
00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:53,007
It's like, 99%o of them.
693
00:50:53,091 --> 00:50:58,637
And even those who do it's,
it's not a forever scenario.
694
00:50:58,722 --> 00:51:07,313
Our industry is sort of
built on sand castles
because, none of this is real.
695
00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,690
Fashion photography
is not realistic.
696
00:51:09,775 --> 00:51:13,360
And it's, it's about a dream.
And it's about perfection.
697
00:51:13,445 --> 00:51:16,489
And it's about you know,
looking at something
that's really beautiful
698
00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:18,240
and it's a piece of art.
699
00:51:18,325 --> 00:51:21,118
So, on the one hand you
have people seeing these
images as images
700
00:51:21,203 --> 00:51:24,246
of beauty, aesthetic objects.
701
00:51:24,331 --> 00:51:29,335
But on the other hand, people
kind of see these images
as images of oppression and
702
00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:32,546
of evidence of a kind
power, power imbalance.
703
00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:36,383
So, there is always, I think, an
aspirational aspect of beauty
704
00:51:36,468 --> 00:51:38,344
and you see that within fashion
705
00:51:38,428 --> 00:51:42,348
and I think that as we evolve
as people, we can open
that and broaden it.
706
00:51:42,432 --> 00:51:46,685
But media doesn't
necessarily want to do that
because by making-
707
00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:52,608
honing that into a very
small group of, of really
inaccessible forms of beauty
708
00:51:53,735 --> 00:52:00,449
it allows for people to buy
things to, you know, get Kim
Kardashian's ass and to get,
709
00:52:00,534 --> 00:52:04,620
you know, J Lo's face,
but you know, I mean,
it's driven by capitalism.
710
00:52:04,704 --> 00:52:09,041
So, the less we can be
inclusive, the more we're gonna
drive people to purchase things
711
00:52:09,126 --> 00:52:11,710
to make them look a certain way.
712
00:52:11,795 --> 00:52:15,339
If something is always
unattainable the desire
will never cease.
713
00:52:15,423 --> 00:52:17,466
And so, you'll always be-
714
00:52:18,844 --> 00:52:20,386
be spending money.
715
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:24,348
[Noémie] lf you look
at advertising for food,
even the food is retouched.
716
00:52:25,308 --> 00:52:28,185
So, it's really part of the
culture, the marketing culture,
717
00:52:28,270 --> 00:52:31,564
that when we sell something
it has to be perfect.
718
00:52:31,648 --> 00:52:35,651
Yeah, it's-- it's-- I mean we
have to I suppose, present
perfection every month
719
00:52:35,735 --> 00:52:37,319
and that's what we do.
720
00:52:37,404 --> 00:52:39,363
You know, it's yeah.
721
00:52:39,447 --> 00:52:41,532
-[woman] That's what they want.
-Yeah, that's what they want.
722
00:52:41,616 --> 00:52:44,285
I mean she's talked to
me about, you know,
not retouching images.
723
00:52:44,369 --> 00:52:45,661
I can't do that as
Harper's Bazaar.
724
00:52:45,745 --> 00:52:47,621
It's like, you know,
it's not my job to do it.
725
00:52:47,706 --> 00:52:50,416
No, no! I'd lose my job.
726
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:51,208
Yeah.
727
00:52:51,293 --> 00:52:54,378
You often don't see plus
size models in beauty campaigns,
728
00:52:54,462 --> 00:52:57,756
and you know, jewelry
campaigns and
729
00:52:57,841 --> 00:53:02,845
you know, watches
and lifestyle and we're
breaking into a fashion
730
00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:08,642
area of the industry but,
there's so many places
where models are used where
731
00:53:08,727 --> 00:53:10,769
plus size models
aren't featured.
732
00:53:10,854 --> 00:53:12,479
[Liris] It's hard being a model.
733
00:53:14,649 --> 00:53:17,443
Then put a plus model
on top of that.
734
00:53:17,527 --> 00:53:19,570
It's even harder
to be a plus model.
735
00:53:20,739 --> 00:53:21,739
Then put
736
00:53:23,575 --> 00:53:30,873
this-- that I can't change, but
I love so much, my skin color,
my heritage, African-American.
737
00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:33,792
Proud African-American.
738
00:53:33,877 --> 00:53:35,294
Put that on there.
739
00:53:35,378 --> 00:53:36,712
That's a whole other layer.
740
00:53:37,505 --> 00:53:41,634
And guess what? That makes
it a hundred times harder.
741
00:53:41,718 --> 00:53:48,807
One of our male models,
many years ago, one of our
really great black male model
742
00:53:48,892 --> 00:53:50,726
that we represented,
and he said,
743
00:53:51,436 --> 00:53:54,605
"You know, do you ever
noticed that black people
don't eat cereal?
744
00:53:54,689 --> 00:53:58,442
Black people don't drink beer?"
And I was like "What are
you talking about?"
745
00:53:58,526 --> 00:54:00,861
He goes, "Do you ever see
that on TV commercials?
Do you ever get an audition
746
00:54:00,946 --> 00:54:04,323
for me to go out and do
that?" And I thought,
"You are so right."
747
00:54:04,407 --> 00:54:09,328
That's what you see you see
those people, who society
push out, "Yo! Boom!
748
00:54:09,412 --> 00:54:12,873
You want a new Mercedes?
You gotta look like George.
749
00:54:12,958 --> 00:54:14,917
George is sexy.
750
00:54:15,001 --> 00:54:16,669
George has a six-pack.
751
00:54:16,753 --> 00:54:19,588
George drives a Mercedes."
752
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:20,339
You know.
753
00:54:20,423 --> 00:54:23,676
"You want to be like Phil?
Phil drives a minivan.
754
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,553
He's a dad, he has six kids.
755
00:54:26,638 --> 00:54:28,847
He has a job that
he doesn't care for.
756
00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:31,767
Oh! He has a beer belly."
757
00:54:31,851 --> 00:54:33,852
Okay, thanks for
that stereotype.
758
00:54:33,937 --> 00:54:36,730
Um, but no it's not like
that. Like, yo, why can't I,
759
00:54:37,482 --> 00:54:40,943
why can't I be the guy
who drives the Mercedes?
760
00:54:41,027 --> 00:54:45,864
At the end of the day, everyone
wants to dream and everyone
wants to be inspired and
761
00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:49,702
feel like they're working
towards something.
762
00:54:49,786 --> 00:54:55,749
And I think plus size fashion
still needs that, you know,
you still want to go
763
00:54:55,834 --> 00:54:59,044
into a plus size store and feel
that the clothes are beautiful.
764
00:54:59,963 --> 00:55:04,758
You know you want to go in and
feel that they're still trying
to sell you some kind of dream.
765
00:55:04,843 --> 00:55:08,304
You know, it doesn't have
to be a size 0 dream.
766
00:55:11,016 --> 00:55:13,976
[Elly] So, I do a lot of vintage
store shopping, usually.
767
00:55:14,644 --> 00:55:18,772
I love it, it's kind of
like-- it's kind of
always been my style.
768
00:55:18,857 --> 00:55:23,777
Oh, my goodness!
I have absolutely no real
concept of my body yet
769
00:55:23,862 --> 00:55:28,532
cause I've dropped
40 pounds. So, I dropped
from 187 to 141 just I-
770
00:55:28,616 --> 00:55:29,992
I weighed myself yesterday.
771
00:55:30,076 --> 00:55:33,912
About 45 pounds difference.
So, that's quite a bit.
772
00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,957
So, I don't know how to really
shop yet, I don't know how to-
773
00:55:37,667 --> 00:55:43,422
I just feel different when I
model and I can-- different
angles don't look as good.
774
00:55:43,506 --> 00:55:45,591
Kinda got a grampa
bum right now.
775
00:55:45,675 --> 00:55:50,679
I don't know if I feel very
confident without my weight.
776
00:55:50,764 --> 00:55:55,017
I know that sounds really
weird, but I, I feel different
without-- with my weight gone.
777
00:55:55,852 --> 00:56:00,939
Oh yeah! First, we'll get to
New York we'll be buying some,
won't be no $7.99 shirts there,
778
00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:02,024
I don't think.
779
00:56:02,108 --> 00:56:04,943
That's the plan is
to go to New York as
soon as I'm recovered.
780
00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:08,322
I want to get on that plane.
781
00:56:08,448 --> 00:56:10,449
I'm so excited I've just
got to get through it. So-
782
00:56:12,077 --> 00:56:14,661
Yeah! Be patient.
783
00:56:14,746 --> 00:56:15,621
Yeah.
784
00:56:15,705 --> 00:56:18,040
Ooh, that's a nice
purse! [chuckling]
785
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,585
It's pretty wonderful that
I'm going from pretty much
786
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:28,801
well driving an '87
Volkswagen that doesn't start,
to modeling in New York City.
787
00:56:28,885 --> 00:56:33,305
Hopefully. So, it'll be
incredible and I hope
that it all works out well.
788
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,015
But they seem to be
pretty excited for me.
789
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:38,644
They say that they're watching
me and I just got another email
of them checking in on me and
790
00:56:38,728 --> 00:56:40,979
seeing, seeing if I'm
ready and I'm still game.
791
00:56:41,064 --> 00:56:43,357
But I feel like I'm
locked up, right now.
792
00:56:43,483 --> 00:56:44,983
I feel like I'm in a jail.
793
00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:47,861
It's-- it's hard to push
onward sometimes.
794
00:56:47,946 --> 00:56:52,366
But you have to remember the
end goal and the end mission.
795
00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:55,661
And just, kind of, I got to
keep my eyes on the prize.
796
00:56:55,745 --> 00:56:56,912
And not worry
about everyone else,
797
00:56:56,996 --> 00:56:59,456
and the emotions that come with
this and what I'm dealing with.
798
00:56:59,541 --> 00:57:03,544
Because in the end,
I want to be successful.
799
00:57:03,628 --> 00:57:04,628
And happy.
800
00:57:04,712 --> 00:57:06,839
And I want to instill a lot
of confidence in people
801
00:57:06,923 --> 00:57:08,966
because that was my
goal in the start. So.
802
00:57:09,968 --> 00:57:11,385
Yeah.
803
00:57:11,469 --> 00:57:15,973
A Vancouver woman battling
a rare form of ovarian
cancer is sharing her story
804
00:57:16,057 --> 00:57:17,683
in a rather unconventional way.
805
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:21,979
Despite chemotherapy
and surgeries, she's kept
working as a fashion model.
806
00:57:22,063 --> 00:57:25,649
She's hoping to change
the way her industry
thinks about beauty.
807
00:57:25,733 --> 00:57:29,027
[woman] There's one shot that
is at the Forever Yours store,
808
00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:30,863
and it's the shot
with the sports bra?
809
00:57:30,947 --> 00:57:35,701
[Elly] Looking at that
just-- I can't believe it!
It's such a beautiful photo,
810
00:57:35,785 --> 00:57:38,537
of what needs to be
represented in this world.
811
00:57:38,621 --> 00:57:41,039
[reporter] At one point,
Mayday died her hair teal.
812
00:57:41,124 --> 00:57:45,377
The color of ovarian
cancer awareness,
before shaving it off.
813
00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:48,088
She has another major surgery
scheduled for next week.
814
00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:51,550
After that she has plans
to go to New York.
815
00:57:51,634 --> 00:57:56,054
I will be going in for a surgery
on Monday, um, that
will be very invasive.
816
00:57:56,139 --> 00:57:57,973
It will consist of-
817
00:57:59,726 --> 00:58:02,644
uh, chemo during the treatment
about an hour and a half
818
00:58:02,729 --> 00:58:06,899
They don't even do this
procedure in BC, yet.
819
00:58:06,983 --> 00:58:08,942
This is just a new thing
that they've been doing.
820
00:58:09,027 --> 00:58:14,781
So, hopefully it's--
it's the one that gets me
to the, to the finish line.
821
00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:16,575
And not that finish line.
822
00:58:16,659 --> 00:58:18,577
You know? Yeah.
823
00:58:21,581 --> 00:58:25,083
So today, Graden and I are
going to go out and go shopping
824
00:58:25,168 --> 00:58:28,795
and see what is
available for plus sizes.
825
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:34,092
Let's see what's the biggest
size they have? I think an 8.
826
00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:37,429
I don't think they'd have
anything past a size 14 though.
827
00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:39,097
Well, so far, it's been 12
828
00:58:39,182 --> 00:58:40,140
Yeah.
829
00:58:40,225 --> 00:58:46,438
I think everything is just
a size 12. Oh! Size 12.
830
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,815
That's it. I think they
have like a tall section,
831
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:53,904
a petite section, but no--
nothing past a size 12.
832
00:58:53,988 --> 00:58:56,782
I can't get it past
my upper arm!
833
00:58:58,868 --> 00:59:01,161
It's a ten! It's maternity.
834
00:59:01,246 --> 00:59:02,955
It won't go past my arm.
835
00:59:05,667 --> 00:59:12,047
Hey, did you know, you can only
be, like, pregnant up to a size
12 too? You can't get bigger.
836
00:59:13,049 --> 00:59:14,216
That's cute.
837
00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:16,468
But you would never wear it?
838
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:17,636
I would wear that.
839
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,681
Up to what size
does it go? Large?
840
00:59:21,558 --> 00:59:23,517
My love, I have a
question for you.
841
00:59:23,601 --> 00:59:25,852
Up to what size does this go?
842
00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:35,821
It depends. lf you've
got extra-large or
double extra-large.
843
00:59:35,905 --> 00:59:38,282
-Do they make them
in those sizes?
-No.
844
00:59:43,705 --> 00:59:47,499
-They didn't even have
anything past a size 8 there.
-No.
845
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:51,628
Haven't seen anything all day
that's past a size 12 or large.
846
00:59:51,713 --> 00:59:53,880
-No, it kind of looks
like the 12 is...
-Yeah.
847
00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:56,091
-That seems to be the cutoff.
-Yeah.
848
00:59:56,175 --> 00:59:57,259
Mm-mm.
849
00:59:57,343 --> 01:00:01,013
Even in maternity!
Even in maternity.
850
01:00:01,097 --> 01:00:02,848
-Just stop growing.
-Yes.
851
01:00:02,932 --> 01:00:08,854
They literally divide you up
based, based on your size
when you go shopping.
852
01:00:08,938 --> 01:00:12,733
I've been in stores, you
know, department stores
where I would say,
853
01:00:12,817 --> 01:00:18,071
"Oh, can you tell me where
the dresses are?" "Umm, for you,
it would be on the third floor."
854
01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:20,616
For me?
855
01:00:23,703 --> 01:00:29,541
Twice, last week, I walked
into a store only to be told
by the salesgirl that the,
856
01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:31,668
the extra-large was gone.
857
01:00:31,753 --> 01:00:34,296
Because the shipment
only comes with one.
858
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,008
I mean, how does that make me
feel? I'm one of the package?
859
01:00:38,092 --> 01:00:40,093
And I'm just an extra-large,
for god sakes.
860
01:00:40,178 --> 01:00:43,764
It's just because it looks
prettier on the rack to
have a zero to twelve.
861
01:00:43,848 --> 01:00:48,226
Why would you have plus size?
You don't want to associate
with girls that are,
862
01:00:48,311 --> 01:00:50,771
I don't know, maybe
200 or 300 pounds.
863
01:00:50,855 --> 01:00:52,064
They don't want
to associate with that.
864
01:00:52,148 --> 01:00:56,610
No there's no elitism, there's
just pure ignorance,
and willful ignorance.
865
01:00:56,694 --> 01:00:59,321
Because, it's like
you're literally leaving
dollars on the table.
866
01:00:59,405 --> 01:01:03,575
Her average dollar per spend
is more than double what
a straight size shopper is.
867
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:07,287
She's going to share on social
media more than her straight
size sister is going to.
868
01:01:07,372 --> 01:01:10,916
These are things and elements
that add to the bottom dollar.
869
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,087
And if you're in a business,
in retail at the end of the
day, it's all about the dollar.
870
01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:20,342
So even from a marketing,
retail, business space
it makes no sense.
871
01:01:20,426 --> 01:01:27,057
They decide to sell or not,
plus size clothing according
to the location of the store.
872
01:01:27,141 --> 01:01:33,355
In Milan, I'm sure that some
H&M store sells, for sure,
873
01:01:33,439 --> 01:01:37,359
plus size clothes but not the
one in Coso Buenos Aires.
874
01:01:38,444 --> 01:01:42,197
Because it is very, very
popular street, you know,
875
01:01:42,281 --> 01:01:46,785
and they don't want to deal
with a certain target of people.
876
01:01:46,869 --> 01:01:51,665
I can't wake up and say,
"Okay, today, I'm going
shopping in Paris."
877
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:54,292
Because I just can't.
There isn't my size anywhere.
878
01:01:54,377 --> 01:02:00,298
Now if in this day and
age, if there were signs
in a store that said,
879
01:02:00,383 --> 01:02:02,342
"Blacks shop in the back."
880
01:02:03,136 --> 01:02:05,262
People would be outraged.
881
01:02:05,346 --> 01:02:07,681
That wouldn't-- no one
would allow that.
882
01:02:07,807 --> 01:02:12,060
But for plus-sizes, it's like,
"Oh, yeah, you guys go
and shop in the back.
883
01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:14,187
Shop downstairs"
or wherever it is.
884
01:02:14,272 --> 01:02:16,857
And it's like, "Why is--
why is that okay?"
885
01:02:16,941 --> 01:02:20,652
[Marie] Because that's what
these brands do when they either
don't put us in their stores
886
01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:23,321
or put us all the way in
the corner and in the dark.
887
01:02:23,406 --> 01:02:24,364
Like that's what they do.
888
01:02:24,449 --> 01:02:26,908
That's what they make us feel
like, third class citizens.
889
01:03:29,931 --> 01:03:36,144
[Laura] Plus size models
aren't given the opportunity as
much to make great money.
890
01:03:36,229 --> 01:03:41,858
The availability to work
at a high end of the fashion
industry just isn't there.
891
01:03:41,943 --> 01:03:46,154
So, the plus size models
don't get that opportunity
to make that kind of money.
892
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:49,950
And I love it when people
say to me, "Oh, wow.
893
01:03:50,034 --> 01:03:52,244
You're in eight pages
of Cosmo this month.
894
01:03:52,328 --> 01:03:57,749
You must be killing it.
You must be so rich." Well,
actually guys I'm not rich.
895
01:03:57,834 --> 01:03:59,501
I got paid a hundred
dollars for that shoot.
896
01:03:59,585 --> 01:04:01,795
I worked seven hours.
897
01:04:01,921 --> 01:04:04,256
My agency fees come out of that.
898
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:05,924
My tax comes out of that.
899
01:04:06,008 --> 01:04:07,425
My parking comes out of that.
900
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:11,805
And after a seven-hour
day, I've made about $40.
901
01:04:11,931 --> 01:04:16,434
For doing eight pages of a
national, well known magazine.
902
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:18,979
The biggest selling
magazine in the world.
903
01:04:19,063 --> 01:04:20,480
So that's why we
do the other shoots.
904
01:04:20,565 --> 01:04:25,944
That's why we do the catalog
shoots and shoots where we
have to wear fat suits, because
905
01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:29,030
they're the jobs that
actually pay the money.
906
01:04:29,115 --> 01:04:31,825
Because there are more plus
size brands out there now,
907
01:04:31,909 --> 01:04:34,286
across the world there
is a lot more work.
908
01:04:34,370 --> 01:04:38,039
And there is that opportunity
to make a very steady income.
909
01:04:38,124 --> 01:04:39,958
lf you can work
every day, amazing.
910
01:04:40,042 --> 01:04:45,171
But often, you might only
have one shoot a week,
or two shoots a week.
911
01:04:45,256 --> 01:04:46,298
[ding]
912
01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:55,807
Generally, a pay day for
a day shoot is usually a
couple of thousand dollars.
913
01:04:55,892 --> 01:04:57,434
You know, that's
fantastic money.
914
01:04:57,518 --> 01:04:59,811
But earnings aren't consistent.
915
01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:04,399
The jobs aren't there every day
and they just don't have that
availability to work every day.
916
01:05:04,483 --> 01:05:07,235
So, they need to have a second
job to support themselves.
917
01:05:10,531 --> 01:05:14,326
Some girls actually spend
money trying to be a
model and get in debt.
918
01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:18,872
They go overseas,
they rack up bills and
they don't get any work.
919
01:05:18,998 --> 01:05:22,584
And then they go back to
their home country in a
whole lot of debt because
920
01:05:22,668 --> 01:05:24,294
all they wanted to do
is be a model.
921
01:05:24,378 --> 01:05:25,462
And they never got there.
922
01:05:27,632 --> 01:05:29,049
It's different from everyone.
923
01:05:29,133 --> 01:05:34,554
There's the extreme of very
little money to the extreme
of making amazing money.
924
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:38,224
And there's definitely plus
size models out there
making amazing money.
925
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:41,102
But it's not everyone.
926
01:05:46,442 --> 01:05:50,403
This was a big blow for
Elly and for her family
and for her friends.
927
01:05:50,488 --> 01:05:53,031
So, I thought, if we
put an event together,
928
01:05:53,115 --> 01:05:55,533
I think that will give her
a night to actually have fun.
929
01:05:55,618 --> 01:06:00,121
But also give her kind
of, like, one last hurrah
before she's in the hospital.
930
01:06:01,165 --> 01:06:02,499
Hey, do you ever look good.
931
01:06:03,584 --> 01:06:06,503
-I love you
-I love you too. What's up?
932
01:06:06,587 --> 01:06:08,338
-So, I have a surprise for you.
-Okay?
933
01:06:08,422 --> 01:06:13,176
[voice trembling] And
I just wanted you to have
a night before you went in.
934
01:06:14,095 --> 01:06:15,929
And just something
to like-- I'm sorry.
935
01:06:16,055 --> 01:06:18,515
I don't want to cry, but like,
I just want you to know
how much I love you
936
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:20,350
and how much we all
think you're amazing.
937
01:06:20,434 --> 01:06:21,893
And so, I have a
surprise for you.
938
01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:22,477
Oh yeah?
939
01:06:22,561 --> 01:06:25,647
-Okay? You need a minute?
-I'm already crying! Thank you.
940
01:06:25,731 --> 01:06:27,524
It'll be lovely.
941
01:06:27,608 --> 01:06:28,608
-Okay.
-It'll be lovely.
942
01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:29,609
-You okay?
-Yeah.
943
01:06:29,694 --> 01:06:32,654
-Do I look okay?
-You look beautiful.
944
01:06:32,738 --> 01:06:35,448
This is kind of a big deal.
945
01:06:35,533 --> 01:06:37,701
I'm so glad I didn't
wear my sweats.
946
01:06:39,036 --> 01:06:43,623
What in fucking--
that's pretty cool.
947
01:06:43,708 --> 01:06:45,208
Oh my god!
948
01:06:45,292 --> 01:06:47,043
[people cheering]
949
01:06:50,589 --> 01:06:53,591
So, everyone's here
tonight for you.
950
01:06:53,676 --> 01:06:58,430
And we all just wanted tell you
how much we love you, and
we're putting on a fashion show.
951
01:06:58,514 --> 01:07:00,056
-Really?
-Yes.
952
01:07:01,017 --> 01:07:02,142
Do I have to work?
953
01:07:02,226 --> 01:07:03,226
No.
954
01:07:03,310 --> 01:07:04,769
[upbeat music]
955
01:07:20,619 --> 01:07:21,953
So, this is a big surprise?
956
01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:23,955
This is an amazing
surprise, yeah.
957
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,415
[upbeat music]
958
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,158
Really opens my eyes to all the
kindness that has been shown
to my daughter and my family.
959
01:08:00,242 --> 01:08:02,619
[Elly] No, I had no idea
until, like, just driving here.
960
01:08:02,703 --> 01:08:05,163
It was going to be a night out
with whoever showed up.
961
01:08:05,247 --> 01:08:09,209
But it turned out to be a
night out of me being able
to see everyone I love,
962
01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:12,754
and everyone that's
supported me through this,
and kind of given me a-
963
01:08:12,838 --> 01:08:19,594
a good, um, almost a sayonara
to me going off to New York
as soon as I'm recovered.
964
01:08:19,678 --> 01:08:24,557
So, surgery's on Monday
and everyone wanted
to see me and, ah yeah.
965
01:08:24,642 --> 01:08:25,642
It's been pretty nice.
966
01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:33,358
I have such a good feeling
that she is going to go
through the surgery.
967
01:08:33,442 --> 01:08:35,026
She's gonna do well.
968
01:08:35,111 --> 01:08:37,570
She's gonna beat this and
she's gonna take over the world.
969
01:08:37,655 --> 01:08:41,491
Like honestly, she's going
to be the plus size model
970
01:08:41,575 --> 01:08:43,785
that's gonna make
everybody feel amazing.
971
01:08:57,591 --> 01:08:59,259
[soft music]
972
01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:26,619
It's a foggy old Monday.
973
01:09:28,914 --> 01:09:29,831
Yeah.
974
01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:19,714
[Elly] I didn't write a
journal for cancer like
everyone else does.
975
01:10:19,798 --> 01:10:24,844
I posted on Facebook to try to
inspire people and to try to do
something good in this world
976
01:10:24,929 --> 01:10:26,721
because maybe that
was my last chance,
977
01:10:26,805 --> 01:10:31,684
and if that was my last
chance then I think I spent
it well. It was well spent.
978
01:10:34,730 --> 01:10:36,314
Okay, yeah. This is it, guys.
979
01:10:36,398 --> 01:10:39,692
When I return, I'll hopefully--
I will be a cancer-free,
980
01:10:40,569 --> 01:10:42,153
young woman ready
to take on the world.
981
01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:44,697
New York, here
I come. [chuckling]
982
01:10:54,833 --> 01:10:58,753
I think at the moment it's--
it's a really weird industry
983
01:10:58,837 --> 01:11:01,756
and that's what so many
consumers don't understand
984
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,342
and everyone kind of
blames each other.
985
01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:09,180
You know, the magazines
are saying, "Well, actually, if
designer samples were bigger,
986
01:11:09,265 --> 01:11:11,391
we'd have to use bigger models."
987
01:11:11,475 --> 01:11:15,186
It's just this vicious circle
of the modeling agencies
then say, "Well, hang on,
988
01:11:15,271 --> 01:11:17,355
we're only meeting the demands
of the fashion editors
989
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,190
that are asking for
the size eight to ten."
990
01:11:19,275 --> 01:11:21,609
But the only reason the
fashion editors are asking
for size eight to ten,
991
01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:23,945
it's because the sample
sizes come in that.
992
01:11:24,029 --> 01:11:26,531
But then you've got the
designers and retailers
say "Well, hang on,
993
01:11:26,615 --> 01:11:28,700
the only reason we're
creating-- you know,
we're creating that size
994
01:11:28,784 --> 01:11:33,788
is because it's really
costly to create another
block on a larger size."
995
01:11:33,872 --> 01:11:37,875
So, it's a vicious circle
that nobody wants to
take sole responsibility,
996
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,419
but actually, it's
everyone's responsibility.
997
01:11:39,503 --> 01:11:42,213
So, everyone needs to take
a slice of that pie and own it.
998
01:11:42,298 --> 01:11:43,965
I don't even begin to say
we're not the bad guys.
999
01:11:44,049 --> 01:11:47,510
I think there's an element
that we are the bad guys,
but so are the retailers,
1000
01:11:47,594 --> 01:11:50,221
the designers, the modeling
agencies, the consumers.
1001
01:11:50,306 --> 01:11:53,933
Like, we're all, we all
have got to take a bit
of blame on our shoulders.
1002
01:11:54,018 --> 01:11:57,562
And we've all got to act to
make that change, you know.
1003
01:11:57,646 --> 01:12:01,274
So, there is a lot more
we can be doing in Cosmo.
1004
01:12:01,358 --> 01:12:03,568
Likewise, consumers need
to stand up and have a voice,
1005
01:12:03,652 --> 01:12:05,570
and have their say
and vote with their wallet.
1006
01:12:05,654 --> 01:12:10,241
Designers need to look
at, well, is it time to start
investing in bigger blocks
1007
01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:14,912
and cutting, you know,
larger sizes that fit women,
and sell more garments.
1008
01:12:14,997 --> 01:12:19,417
You know and-- if
everyone can just lift
and do that little bit extra.
1009
01:12:19,501 --> 01:12:22,295
I'm not-- I'm not sitting here
saying, "Oh, we're not the
bad guy. Don't blame us."
1010
01:12:22,421 --> 01:12:26,507
Because there is-- like,
you know, as a mother,
I've got two daughters
1011
01:12:26,592 --> 01:12:28,301
and I don't want my
children growing up-
1012
01:12:28,427 --> 01:12:31,012
I don't want those girls growing
up with bad body image.
1013
01:12:31,096 --> 01:12:34,640
I don't want them looking
at magazines going, "I feel
terrible about my body.
1014
01:12:34,725 --> 01:12:37,310
I'm not skinny enough,
I'm not fit enough, I'm
not fashionable enough,
1015
01:12:37,394 --> 01:12:38,686
I'm not whatever enough."
1016
01:12:39,521 --> 01:12:43,691
You know, so, we certainly
have a responsibility,
1017
01:12:43,776 --> 01:12:46,944
and I don't shrug that and think
"Oh, we're doing, what we're
doing, so don't blame us,
1018
01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:48,613
go and blame somebody
else." You know,
1019
01:12:48,697 --> 01:12:54,327
I'm putting my hand up to take
some of that blame, but we're
trying to do something about it.
1020
01:12:54,411 --> 01:12:59,457
You know, and-- and it's, it's
walking that fine line between,
being business and making money,
1021
01:12:59,541 --> 01:13:03,461
but also having that ethical,
moral, social responsibility.
1022
01:13:05,964 --> 01:13:10,468
This revolution is carried
out by people, not
the fashion industry.
1023
01:13:10,552 --> 01:13:18,643
And since people are the
real protagonists of this
movement, of this phenomenon,
1024
01:13:18,727 --> 01:13:26,734
social media very useful
to, to achieve our goals
because they are the only,
1025
01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:30,905
the only means,
the only way to let
1026
01:13:32,616 --> 01:13:39,997
bigger and bigger number
of people know that
plus sized women count.
1027
01:13:40,082 --> 01:13:44,460
We have to keep encouraging
brands to include more
plus size models.
1028
01:13:44,545 --> 01:13:46,170
I mean, we're the public.
1029
01:13:46,922 --> 01:13:48,881
We're the ones
spending money on clothing.
1030
01:13:48,966 --> 01:13:53,553
We're the ones pushing
the industry, so we
need to push it forward.
1031
01:13:53,637 --> 01:13:59,559
We need to create the momentum
that'll bring in more diversity,
bring in more plus size models
1032
01:13:59,643 --> 01:14:03,354
of different shapes,
different heights that
we can all relate to.
1033
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:09,360
I am absolutely amazed and
shocked this year
at how much traction
1034
01:14:09,445 --> 01:14:12,572
the movement has
gotten because it really
has been grassroots.
1035
01:14:12,656 --> 01:14:18,744
And in some ways now, I feel
like the media, mainstream media
is almost trying to latch itself
1036
01:14:18,829 --> 01:14:21,372
onto it and you know,
make it this cool thing.
1037
01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:24,876
And it's like, "Just so
you know, you didn't
make this happen.
1038
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,837
You're late to the game,
we made this shit happen."
1039
01:14:27,921 --> 01:14:31,424
We've created our
own celebrities.
1040
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:32,884
It's because there is
nobody to look up to.
1041
01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:36,554
And then you have girls
like Gaby Fresh, and
the Curvy Fashionista,
1042
01:14:36,638 --> 01:14:43,436
and Nadia Aboulhosn and like all
these girls down in the States
that have just gone huge.
1043
01:14:43,562 --> 01:14:45,062
I love my fans. I do.
1044
01:14:45,147 --> 01:14:47,899
They are so sweet and,
1045
01:14:47,983 --> 01:14:50,818
you know, they post on
my Facebook wall with um,
1046
01:14:50,903 --> 01:14:53,946
you know, little stories
about their lives and
how I've inspired them.
1047
01:14:54,031 --> 01:14:58,743
And I find it like really
touching and it really inspires
me to keep doing what I'm doing.
1048
01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:04,832
I think that sometimes
I keep going in this
career as a plus model
1049
01:15:04,917 --> 01:15:06,584
because I know that
they're watching me.
1050
01:15:06,668 --> 01:15:08,461
I know that I inspire them.
1051
01:15:08,545 --> 01:15:15,593
I know that they want to be--
they think when they see me, "If
Liris can do it, I can do it."
1052
01:15:15,677 --> 01:15:20,973
Yeah, I think this is very
important because growing up I
had no one that looked like me
1053
01:15:21,058 --> 01:15:24,101
to look up to, like no one.
1054
01:15:24,186 --> 01:15:28,105
So, I'm so glad when
I get messages from
young girls that say,
1055
01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:33,778
"Oh my god, you look like
me, so cool, like." And I felt
like, this is like the best gift
1056
01:15:33,862 --> 01:15:40,493
of the work, is like,
inspiring younger girls and
tell them it's okay to be you.
1057
01:15:40,577 --> 01:15:45,706
And this is, yeah, the most
rewarding part of everything.
1058
01:15:45,791 --> 01:15:46,832
It's, it's this.
1059
01:15:46,917 --> 01:15:50,878
It's being a part of this
revolution, being a
part of the change.
1060
01:15:50,963 --> 01:15:52,797
Yeah, that's amazing.
1061
01:15:57,886 --> 01:15:59,053
[Elly] I don't like hospitals.
1062
01:15:59,972 --> 01:16:04,225
It was, it wasn't fun being
here, but it was like I had,
nice nurses and everything.
1063
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:08,729
It wasn't, it wasn't too
smooth a sail in there,
the first couple of days.
1064
01:16:11,108 --> 01:16:13,901
No, it was, yeah it was
eight and a half hours long.
1065
01:16:14,903 --> 01:16:18,906
Four surgeons total, and
five anesthesiologists,
bunch of nurses.
1066
01:16:19,741 --> 01:16:21,826
Yeah, the nurses were so nice.
1067
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:27,164
I gave them one of my calendars
here for-- so tried to maybe
spread the story a little bit
1068
01:16:27,249 --> 01:16:29,875
to a couple of people,
but I didn't really
want to deal with any
1069
01:16:30,711 --> 01:16:33,170
Elly Mayday crap
this week, you know.
1070
01:16:34,756 --> 01:16:36,841
People that were helping me
weren't really helping me.
1071
01:16:36,925 --> 01:16:39,510
They didn't understand that
I didn't want as much media.
1072
01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:42,013
I don't want a bunch of media
coverage over my sickness.
1073
01:16:42,097 --> 01:16:43,180
I want to be healthy.
1074
01:16:43,265 --> 01:16:51,147
So, um, yeah, when I-- when
I do all this media coverage,
I wanted to be ready to go
1075
01:16:51,231 --> 01:16:53,232
and like looking decent
normal and stuff.
1076
01:16:53,317 --> 01:16:57,612
And so, it kind of took off a
little bit sooner than I wanted
it to and so that really sucks.
1077
01:17:00,115 --> 01:17:03,034
I'm not known for cancer and
that's my one thing, it's like.
1078
01:17:03,118 --> 01:17:04,785
I don't want to be
known for cancer.
1079
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:06,537
I wanna be known
for being strong.
1080
01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:10,249
This wasn't a cancer
story, this is a-- this
is just part of my life.
1081
01:17:10,334 --> 01:17:11,876
This is a cancer bump.
1082
01:17:12,836 --> 01:17:14,879
You know, like what I've
said along this whole time.
1083
01:17:14,963 --> 01:17:20,051
So, I didn't write a journal,
like-- I feel like people who
are gonna die, write a journal.
1084
01:17:20,135 --> 01:17:24,597
I know that sounds really
silly, but in my mind, I always
thought, like if I write out
1085
01:17:24,681 --> 01:17:28,893
how this all went then
there's, there's a reason
for it to end, you know.
1086
01:17:28,977 --> 01:17:33,064
If I don't, if I have
kept this story then
He has to let me tell it.
1087
01:17:33,148 --> 01:17:34,106
It's too good.
1088
01:17:34,816 --> 01:17:37,318
So, that's kind of
what I held on to.
1089
01:17:39,404 --> 01:17:40,363
Yeah.
1090
01:17:42,824 --> 01:17:49,080
And we saw a big shift
in the market with a
lot of body positivity
1091
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:54,043
A lot of, like,
anti-airbrushing and a lot
of wanting to see real people.
1092
01:17:54,127 --> 01:17:58,297
So, we've collaborated
or we've purchased a
lot of designer clothes.
1093
01:17:58,382 --> 01:18:03,344
So, names like William Rast,
DKNY, Levi's, Parasuco.
1094
01:18:03,428 --> 01:18:08,349
So, these are all lines
that weren't previously
offered to plus.
1095
01:18:08,433 --> 01:18:13,229
We're just so happy to, to
be a part of the changeover
1096
01:18:13,313 --> 01:18:17,650
especially for curvier sized
women that that's no
longer the mentality.
1097
01:18:17,734 --> 01:18:21,320
That we're no longer women
crying in the dressing rooms
1098
01:18:21,405 --> 01:18:23,948
or wearing giant T-shirts
to the beach.
1099
01:18:24,032 --> 01:18:27,785
Everything that we can do to
make sure that every woman,
1100
01:18:27,869 --> 01:18:30,955
you know, looks and
feels beautiful when
they're in a swimsuit.
1101
01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:34,333
And if you look at the
size of the population,
1102
01:18:34,418 --> 01:18:40,297
50% of women in Europe
are what, what would
be considered plus size.
1103
01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:44,218
Europe represents a 10
billion Euro opportunity.
1104
01:18:44,302 --> 01:18:50,641
Once people recognize just how
big an opportunity that this is,
they're going to go after it.
1105
01:18:50,726 --> 01:18:54,812
You know the market
is opening up slowly
and continuously.
1106
01:18:54,896 --> 01:19:00,860
I think some of the higher
end media are using plus size
models from time to time,
1107
01:19:00,944 --> 01:19:03,028
you know, in the high-end
fashion publications.
1108
01:19:03,113 --> 01:19:07,783
I think through social media
women, bigger women especially
1109
01:19:07,868 --> 01:19:12,371
have become a much stronger
voice about what they want and
how they want to be portrayed.
1110
01:19:12,456 --> 01:19:17,376
It's a cycle of the public
and bloggers kind of
feeding that information
1111
01:19:17,461 --> 01:19:19,879
back into companies
and companies delivering.
1112
01:19:19,963 --> 01:19:24,133
Forever 21 is doing something
incredible because they're
being really inclusionary.
1113
01:19:24,217 --> 01:19:27,678
Especially if you go to their
Times Square store, they have
a huge plus size section.
1114
01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:31,098
I think the store's something
like three or four stories.
1115
01:19:31,183 --> 01:19:32,933
It's a lot of clothes in there.
1116
01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:37,688
Larger brand stores like
Big W, K-Mart, Target
1117
01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:41,817
are rebranding their
sectors, changing them.
1118
01:19:41,902 --> 01:19:43,861
It's really kind of exciting.
1119
01:19:43,945 --> 01:19:48,115
We're in a really good
transition period right now
which is really positive.
1120
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,912
[Charina] Bigger women haven't
had an opportunity to get used
to investing in themselves,
1121
01:19:52,996 --> 01:19:55,456
in spending money, they've
only ever had cheaper choices.
1122
01:19:55,540 --> 01:20:00,753
So, it takes a while for
everyone to sort of get used to
the idea that you're worth it,
1123
01:20:00,879 --> 01:20:02,755
you can spend the
money on yourself.
1124
01:20:02,839 --> 01:20:07,134
I think we're changing the
path now with plus size
models, labels, media
1125
01:20:07,219 --> 01:20:09,720
that it is something
to be excited about.
1126
01:20:09,805 --> 01:20:13,724
It's not that sort of
shadowy word that no
one mentions anymore.
1127
01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:16,018
It's plus size, be proud of it.
1128
01:20:17,979 --> 01:20:19,146
[exhales]
1129
01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:22,107
Yeah, um.
1130
01:20:22,192 --> 01:20:23,901
I'm excited and nervous.
1131
01:20:23,985 --> 01:20:26,987
I'm so-- I'm nervous.
1132
01:20:27,072 --> 01:20:30,449
"Good morning.
I cannot believe we're finally
going to get to meet you.
1133
01:20:30,534 --> 01:20:33,410
When you find
out a date or even a
timeframe let us know,
1134
01:20:33,495 --> 01:20:35,996
we will definitely make
ourselves available.
1135
01:20:36,081 --> 01:20:39,959
I can't tell you how happy
it makes me to hear
you're getting your life back.
1136
01:20:40,043 --> 01:20:41,794
Please stay in New
York City a little longer.
1137
01:20:41,878 --> 01:20:44,755
We need as much time with
you as we can possibly get.
1138
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,259
So much is happening and
it's exciting knowing you
will be will be a part of it."
1139
01:20:48,343 --> 01:20:53,222
So that's just like right there
it's like, "Uh, yeah!" Yeah.
1140
01:20:53,306 --> 01:20:56,267
So, I'm pretty stoked
to go and meet them.
1141
01:20:57,352 --> 01:21:00,896
So, when I started modeling,
I weighed about 187 pounds.
1142
01:21:00,981 --> 01:21:04,066
Today I weigh 134.
1143
01:21:04,150 --> 01:21:08,946
I started gaining weight in
about grade seven, grade eight,
about the time when it matters
1144
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:11,490
what you look like and
I've always been bigger.
1145
01:21:12,367 --> 01:21:17,454
The most I've ever
weighed was 197.
1146
01:21:17,539 --> 01:21:23,252
I posted a photo last week
of-- and I was pretty hesitant
on doing the selfies again.
1147
01:21:24,087 --> 01:21:30,509
And I see exactly why I
was-- I was holding back
because the reaction was
1148
01:21:30,594 --> 01:21:34,972
a lot of women said to me like,
I can no longer follow you.
1149
01:21:35,056 --> 01:21:39,101
You're, you're not aware
of the curves and
all this kind of stuff.
1150
01:21:41,354 --> 01:21:45,566
It's hard to be an advocate of
something when you're not it,
1151
01:21:45,650 --> 01:21:47,568
when you're not
representing it, at the time.
1152
01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:51,572
So, I think girls don't think
I really know what it's like
to be bigger, you know.
1153
01:21:51,656 --> 01:21:56,285
I don't feel like I can give
advice to girls that are
bigger as much now,
1154
01:21:56,369 --> 01:22:01,373
unless I have my photos with me,
or you can say like, you know,
no I just lost a lot of weight.
1155
01:22:02,959 --> 01:22:08,339
Yeah, it's a weird mix
of emotions for me
regarding my weight loss.
1156
01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:13,177
I still want to be a lingerie
model even though I have a
ginormous scar on my stomach.
1157
01:22:13,261 --> 01:22:14,178
It's part of me
1158
01:22:14,262 --> 01:22:17,848
and I'm only gonna work
with people that are willing
to work with people like me.
1159
01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:20,851
People that are embracing
exactly who they are.
1160
01:22:20,936 --> 01:22:24,855
I want to be a model for
positivity and a model
that people can look up to
1161
01:22:24,940 --> 01:22:27,358
whether you're going through
cancer, whether you're
going through bulimia.
1162
01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:31,612
Whatever you're going through,
whatever your trials and
tribulations of your life,
1163
01:22:31,696 --> 01:22:33,405
you need someone to look up to.
1164
01:22:48,338 --> 01:22:50,339
It's weird to be
able to see future.
1165
01:22:50,423 --> 01:22:55,219
I was like, so focused
on this life-threatening
disease for this past year,
1166
01:22:55,303 --> 01:22:57,930
it's really weird to be
out of the storm now.
1167
01:22:58,014 --> 01:23:01,308
You know and to have doctors
be like, "Well, we took all
the cancer out of you."
1168
01:23:01,393 --> 01:23:06,522
So, it goes from thinking
you're losing your life into
now what are you gonna do?
1169
01:23:07,399 --> 01:23:11,193
It'll be fun to go off to New
York and make it big, hopefully,
1170
01:23:11,277 --> 01:23:17,658
and be on the covers of
some major magazines and
share my story with women.
1171
01:23:21,621 --> 01:23:23,539
[Kerosene] Over
the past few years,
1172
01:23:23,623 --> 01:23:29,253
I have been doing public
talks on body positivity
and self-empowerment.
1173
01:23:29,337 --> 01:23:33,590
I definitely think
my public talks are a
little bit of an extension
1174
01:23:33,675 --> 01:23:35,426
of the work I've
done in the past.
1175
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:39,054
Like I've been an advice
columnist for magazines.
1176
01:23:39,139 --> 01:23:45,602
I've offered a lot of online,
kind of mentoring and advice
to not just aspiring models
1177
01:23:45,687 --> 01:23:48,147
but also anyone in general.
1178
01:23:48,231 --> 01:23:51,942
I've always been a very
open book with people.
1179
01:23:52,027 --> 01:23:55,946
So, for me to be able
to go into my community
1180
01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:59,491
and have these
public talks, it's just
a way to connect.
1181
01:23:59,576 --> 01:24:03,120
I'm not ashamed
of my battle and if you
find yourself struggling
1182
01:24:03,204 --> 01:24:04,997
remember that the
road is hardly ever...
1183
01:24:05,123 --> 01:24:08,792
I think we underestimate
the value and the importance
of sharing our story,
1184
01:24:09,711 --> 01:24:13,464
and I'm always happy to
share my story with people.
1185
01:24:16,551 --> 01:24:19,553
[woman] So, here she
is, Kerosene Deluxe!
1186
01:24:19,637 --> 01:24:21,430
[crowd applauding and cheering]
1187
01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:29,605
Thanks so much,
everyone, for coming.
1188
01:24:30,565 --> 01:24:33,358
It's really awesome
for everyone to be here.
1189
01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:37,571
I've been doing modeling
for about 15 years now and
1190
01:24:37,655 --> 01:24:42,493
it's progressed a lot
from just kind of being
like a rebellious act.
1191
01:24:42,577 --> 01:24:49,583
Sometimes it just takes that one
thing that someone needs to hear
that might ignite that spark
1192
01:24:49,667 --> 01:24:53,337
or get that ball rolling
for them to be like,
"Hey, you know what?
1193
01:24:53,421 --> 01:24:59,384
I am allowed to love myself
and I am worthy of love."
1194
01:25:00,136 --> 01:25:04,264
I'm personally not ashamed
at all of my battle
and if any of you here
1195
01:25:04,349 --> 01:25:09,686
find yourself struggling
just remember that
your road to recovery is,
1196
01:25:09,771 --> 01:25:15,567
it's hardly ever linear, it's
very often super bumpy and
it's definitely okay to stumble.
1197
01:25:15,652 --> 01:25:19,363
And it's, it's okay to
not be okay sometimes.
1198
01:25:19,447 --> 01:25:25,035
I think by uniting in an
event like this and seeing
the people around you
1199
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,163
and how different they are it,
kind of, makes you realize that,
1200
01:25:28,248 --> 01:25:31,083
"Hey, I'm not alone
with this issue.
1201
01:25:31,167 --> 01:25:35,754
The person next to me who
I might consider to look
perfect because they're,
1202
01:25:35,839 --> 01:25:39,550
you know, tall and slender
or they have a nice ass
1203
01:25:39,634 --> 01:25:42,678
or whatever like they could
still have issues as well."
1204
01:25:42,762 --> 01:25:47,724
And I think it's important
to understand that we
all have those little things
1205
01:25:47,809 --> 01:25:50,894
about ourselves that we wish
were different and that's okay.
1206
01:25:51,729 --> 01:25:55,482
People's insecurities
create billion-dollar industries
1207
01:25:55,567 --> 01:26:00,737
and there's no price on
your self-worth and it can't
be measured on a scale.
1208
01:26:00,822 --> 01:26:04,199
You are then, now, and
you're always enough.
1209
01:26:04,284 --> 01:26:07,452
So, that is all I really had
to share with you guys.
1210
01:26:07,537 --> 01:26:09,454
Aww, thanks.
1211
01:26:14,544 --> 01:26:17,713
I love being able to talk
to people after my talks
1212
01:26:17,797 --> 01:26:20,841
and what they-- what they
what they got from it.
1213
01:26:20,925 --> 01:26:23,760
It's very touching to hear
other people's stories as well
1214
01:26:23,845 --> 01:26:26,597
because it's not really
just about my story,
1215
01:26:26,681 --> 01:26:30,517
it's as much as about
their story as well.
1216
01:26:38,651 --> 01:26:41,278
[Laura] Yeah, so this
is my first cover and
I'm super excited.
1217
01:26:41,362 --> 01:26:43,572
It's a regular fashion magazine.
1218
01:26:43,656 --> 01:26:47,159
I think that's even more
important in fact that
they're putting a plus size girl
1219
01:26:47,285 --> 01:26:50,704
on the cover and for
the editorial because
they are wanting
1220
01:26:50,788 --> 01:26:54,333
to celebrate diversity
and show that, you know,
the plus size models
1221
01:26:54,417 --> 01:26:57,377
give it just as good as
the regular size models do.
1222
01:27:00,465 --> 01:27:04,343
I'm a size 14, so that is
classified as plus size,
1223
01:27:04,427 --> 01:27:07,304
in the modeling industry
anyway, not in reality, yeah?
1224
01:27:07,388 --> 01:27:08,889
See you. Thanks, bye.
1225
01:27:11,684 --> 01:27:16,563
We're doing an editorial as
well as the cover today
at this amazing house.
1226
01:27:16,648 --> 01:27:20,484
You know, it means a lot and it
means that people are actually
seeing my photos and who I am
1227
01:27:20,568 --> 01:27:24,655
and what plus size modeling
means to larger society.
1228
01:27:24,739 --> 01:27:27,824
Women and men want to
see women of all different-
1229
01:27:27,909 --> 01:27:31,620
and men of all
different sizes in the
media and in magazines.
1230
01:27:31,704 --> 01:27:34,998
So, it's-- it's great. It's
super positive to be here.
1231
01:27:45,593 --> 01:27:50,806
This month is pretty
amazing for me because
I'm in four magazines in
1232
01:27:50,890 --> 01:27:54,893
one news agency all
around Australia, which
is pretty incredible and
1233
01:27:54,978 --> 01:27:59,940
ne of my favorite ones is Slink
agazine from the UK that's
newly come to Australia
1234
01:28:00,024 --> 01:28:04,903
and I'm on the front cover
of it and on an editorial
in the inside as well.
1235
01:28:04,988 --> 01:28:08,740
So, it's pretty cool that
you know, I can come
into one news agency
1236
01:28:08,825 --> 01:28:10,784
and see myself
in four magazines.
1237
01:28:10,868 --> 01:28:16,331
Women's Weekly did a body
issue this month, and myself
and four other plus size models
1238
01:28:16,416 --> 01:28:19,960
were able to do
an editorial piece and
talking about our bodies.
1239
01:28:20,044 --> 01:28:21,378
And what we love
about our bodies.
1240
01:28:21,462 --> 01:28:25,841
How we feel confident or
what made us feel unconfident
especially when we were younger.
1241
01:28:25,925 --> 01:28:30,470
I was lucky enough to get
a piece in the front of
Women's Weekly Health,
1242
01:28:30,555 --> 01:28:34,266
an article about myself being
a role model for people
1243
01:28:34,392 --> 01:28:38,395
with body confidence issues
and being a positive
body advocator.
1244
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,858
And finally, this month, I'm
also in Cosmopolitan Australia.
1245
01:28:42,942 --> 01:28:47,237
It's an eight-page editorial
on denim and they don't tell
anyone it's a plus size model.
1246
01:28:47,322 --> 01:28:50,365
They don't say,
"This is Laura Wells.
She's a plus size model."
1247
01:28:50,450 --> 01:28:52,701
They just say
"model Laura Wells."
1248
01:28:52,785 --> 01:28:54,953
We shouldn't have to put
labels on plus size models.
1249
01:28:55,038 --> 01:28:58,332
We should just be able
to call them models because
that's what we are.
1250
01:29:05,048 --> 01:29:09,593
Getting a cover and an
editorial for an overseas
magazine is really a big thing
1251
01:29:09,677 --> 01:29:12,512
in the plus industry because
as plus sized women we-
1252
01:29:12,597 --> 01:29:14,264
and plus size models,
we don't get it that often.
1253
01:29:14,349 --> 01:29:17,601
So, it was a huge opportunity
and I feel really privileged
1254
01:29:17,685 --> 01:29:20,520
to have been chosen
to be here today.
1255
01:29:28,446 --> 01:29:30,947
I think we're doing-- I
think we're doing really
wonderful right now.
1256
01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:35,535
I think that we're progressing
at a really, really rapid pace.
1257
01:29:37,705 --> 01:29:39,790
I couldn't have predicted
that we'd be here now,
1258
01:29:39,874 --> 01:29:43,001
so I couldn't imagine
what's gonna be in five years.
1259
01:29:43,086 --> 01:29:44,503
I know I'm not a fortune teller.
1260
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,468
But I would tell you that
I can just picture us in
billboards in Times Square
1261
01:29:51,552 --> 01:29:56,681
and in every runway show
and mixed with, you know,
the straight size brands.
1262
01:30:00,812 --> 01:30:03,855
I think we have no idea what
we're gonna go to, but I think
it's gonna be beautiful
1263
01:30:03,940 --> 01:30:07,359
no matter where we end up
cause we're already so far.
1264
01:30:07,443 --> 01:30:08,360
Oh god.
1265
01:30:08,444 --> 01:30:09,528
It's gonna be fun.
1266
01:30:09,612 --> 01:30:10,862
I can't wait to see it.
1267
01:30:14,992 --> 01:30:16,827
♪♪♪
1268
01:30:31,843 --> 01:30:33,009
Hi.
1269
01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:44,980
♪ New York, New York ♪
1270
01:30:45,064 --> 01:30:46,565
[laughing]
1271
01:30:50,528 --> 01:30:53,864
[Elly] I'm excited,
nervous, pretty tired.
1272
01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:57,159
But it should be good.
It was a full flight so.
1273
01:31:05,585 --> 01:31:07,794
When I was younger,
smaller trips and stuff.
1274
01:31:07,879 --> 01:31:12,924
I've been down to the States,
but uh, nothing like New York.
1275
01:31:13,009 --> 01:31:14,509
Been to Las Vegas.
1276
01:31:14,594 --> 01:31:19,639
And yeah, just like short
little ones, but yeah, this will
definitely be the longest time
1277
01:31:19,724 --> 01:31:21,057
I've ever spent in the States.
1278
01:31:23,019 --> 01:31:26,980
Hopefully, it'll not
be the only time.
1279
01:31:28,816 --> 01:31:31,443
-Thank you very much.
Nice to, nice to meet you.
-Have a good one.
1280
01:31:31,569 --> 01:31:32,777
Thank you very much.
1281
01:31:41,579 --> 01:31:44,080
I'm here, I made it.
1282
01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:49,085
Ugh, nice to be finally here.
1283
01:31:50,129 --> 01:31:54,132
Well, it'll be interesting to
see what tomorrow brings.
1284
01:31:57,553 --> 01:32:02,641
Of course, my skin gets
really bad the day before
I meet an agency. [chuckles]
1285
01:32:06,062 --> 01:32:07,771
It's my first night in New York.
1286
01:32:07,855 --> 01:32:10,440
I'm ready for bed
cause I'm quite tired.
1287
01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:15,237
But yeah, get a good sleep in
and be fresh-faced for tomorrow.
1288
01:32:23,621 --> 01:32:27,624
Ugh, I'm really annoyed that
my skin's terrible right now,
1289
01:32:28,543 --> 01:32:30,877
but there's nothing
I can do about that.
1290
01:32:32,004 --> 01:32:33,922
Hopefully, it'll just go away.
1291
01:32:35,550 --> 01:32:39,219
The lighting's, like, really
terrible, um, maybe
I can do it out here.
1292
01:32:43,891 --> 01:32:49,020
I think just like meeting
them will be good, to
start everything out.
1293
01:32:50,064 --> 01:32:53,984
I signed a contract with
these people for three years,
for the next three years.
1294
01:32:54,068 --> 01:32:58,780
So, hopefully they like
what they picked. [chuckles]
1295
01:32:59,615 --> 01:33:00,949
Just gonna be myself
1296
01:33:03,077 --> 01:33:05,579
and hopefully
that's good enough.
1297
01:33:10,585 --> 01:33:15,046
Now, I know they're gonna
make me take my wig
off, obviously, but
1298
01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:18,883
I think they'd like it
a lot better short so.
1299
01:33:20,261 --> 01:33:22,721
I'm just gonna wear it there.
1300
01:33:55,212 --> 01:33:58,548
-Hello! Hi, how are you?
-Hi, nice to meet you.
1301
01:33:58,633 --> 01:34:03,762
-I'm Gary, so nice to meet you.
So welcome, this is JAG.
-Nice.
1302
01:34:03,846 --> 01:34:08,933
Still in the works, we've
been in two weeks and
yeah, it's going really well.
1303
01:34:09,018 --> 01:34:11,061
-[Elly] Good.
-[Gary] Really, really well.
1304
01:34:11,145 --> 01:34:13,355
What size are you
wearing currently?
1305
01:34:14,065 --> 01:34:15,023
I think I'm a ten right now.
1306
01:34:15,107 --> 01:34:18,735
-Yeah. Ten to twelve.
-ln our market you're
going to be a little bit bigger.
1307
01:34:18,819 --> 01:34:22,739
So, like a 42 to 44
is going to be a 12-14.
1308
01:34:22,823 --> 01:34:24,741
-I think that's probably
where the hip is.
-Yeah.
1309
01:34:24,825 --> 01:34:27,994
-So, you're pretty
much a perfect 14.
-Okay.
1310
01:34:29,163 --> 01:34:31,790
-Hah, I see what you did there.
-[laughing]
1311
01:34:33,167 --> 01:34:34,626
Can't believe
you're finally here.
1312
01:34:34,752 --> 01:34:36,961
I know, it feels like I just
talked about it forever.
1313
01:34:37,046 --> 01:34:39,589
I know. I know, right?
1314
01:34:39,674 --> 01:34:42,717
So, I'll probably stand out
on your board here with all the
girls that have such long hair.
1315
01:34:42,802 --> 01:34:45,220
-Yes.
-Like if I do go
short, you know.
1316
01:34:45,304 --> 01:34:47,764
Should I get my hair cut
before tomorrow or not?
1317
01:34:47,848 --> 01:34:49,057
Let me see again?
1318
01:34:49,141 --> 01:34:50,809
Like, it's pretty messy.
1319
01:34:52,186 --> 01:34:55,063
-I don't think she should
cut it. I like it messy.
-Like it messy?
1320
01:34:55,147 --> 01:34:57,857
Do you think you'll be able
to line up jobs at all this
next two weeks or not?
1321
01:34:57,942 --> 01:34:59,025
It depends on you.
1322
01:34:59,110 --> 01:35:00,985
-Yeah.
-Depends on how
you do in the testing.
1323
01:35:01,070 --> 01:35:03,863
It depends on how you do when
we send you out on castings.
1324
01:35:03,948 --> 01:35:10,036
Um, because you're
so new to this market,
it could go either way.
1325
01:35:11,205 --> 01:35:13,289
-And you had never
been here before?
-No, no.
1326
01:35:13,374 --> 01:35:16,376
-So, what do you want to
see while you're here?
-Uh, everything.
1327
01:35:16,460 --> 01:35:17,794
Everything?
1328
01:35:26,303 --> 01:35:31,683
I'm in the fashion capital of
the world, so I kind of need to
reinvent myself at this point.
1329
01:35:31,767 --> 01:35:33,977
I'm excited for what's
to come next.
1330
01:35:34,061 --> 01:35:38,398
I don't really know,
but I guess that's the
adventure of life isn't it?
1331
01:35:52,204 --> 01:35:54,289
All the paperwork's done
by JAG. So, it's great.
1332
01:35:54,373 --> 01:35:57,876
I just kind of show up,
do the shoot and tra-la-la.
1333
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:02,881
So, it's, that's part of it I
guess, it's like an everyday job
whereas, I've taken it from
1334
01:36:02,965 --> 01:36:07,927
it being just my, my
creativity and my fun
thing to do on the side,
1335
01:36:08,012 --> 01:36:13,767
it's turned into what could
potentially be a full-time
position as a model.
1336
01:36:17,104 --> 01:36:21,024
Just working and just feeling
like I'm moving forward in life
1337
01:36:21,108 --> 01:36:23,234
is really what I
was excited for, so.
1338
01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:26,112
I'm happy to be here, finally.
1339
01:36:34,955 --> 01:36:39,375
Well, I'm scared of remaining
sick and not becoming
cancer-free basically.
1340
01:36:39,460 --> 01:36:42,879
I don't if that's gonna
hold me back, or if my
scar's gonna hold me back,
1341
01:36:42,963 --> 01:36:45,256
but I'm gonna do it anyways.
1342
01:36:45,341 --> 01:36:48,426
Yeah, I guess that's like
the scariest thing is people
rejecting me because of
1343
01:36:48,511 --> 01:36:49,803
the scar I have on my body.
1344
01:36:52,473 --> 01:36:57,477
It's still not really, I'm
still not really realizing it
that I'm a signed model.
1345
01:36:57,561 --> 01:36:58,895
It doesn't feel real yet.
1346
01:36:58,979 --> 01:37:01,564
Maybe when I start traveling
full-time and all that.
1347
01:37:04,235 --> 01:37:07,195
This is one of the most
important moments in my life,
1348
01:37:07,279 --> 01:37:10,740
coming to New York and
experiencing the big city.
1349
01:37:10,825 --> 01:37:12,575
It's really crazy to
be here in New York.
1350
01:37:18,999 --> 01:37:26,798
I think life is always teaching
us new lessons of appreciation
and what we are meant to do
1351
01:37:26,882 --> 01:37:29,259
on this planet to appreciate
just what you've been through
1352
01:37:29,343 --> 01:37:32,178
and to know that
you can go anywhere.
1353
01:37:42,189 --> 01:37:44,315
Superstar. [chuckles]
1354
01:38:17,558 --> 01:38:22,061
This morning women's clothing
company, Lane Bryant is
chiming in on the conversation
1355
01:38:22,146 --> 01:38:24,564
about beauty and body image
with a new marketing campaign.
1356
01:38:24,648 --> 01:38:28,985
Lane Bryant introducing a
new body loving campaign
called I'm No Angel.
1357
01:38:29,069 --> 01:38:30,528
#imnoangel.
1358
01:38:30,613 --> 01:38:32,238
-[man] I'm No Angel.
-[man 2] I'm No Angel.
1359
01:38:32,323 --> 01:38:33,323
[woman] I'm No Angel.
1360
01:38:33,407 --> 01:38:35,992
[woman 2]It features
plus sized models and
says the campaign
1361
01:38:36,076 --> 01:38:39,537
is designed to teach women to
love every part of themselves.
1362
01:38:40,998 --> 01:38:44,834
reporter]The models who appear
n this new commercial believe
it more closely reflects
1363
01:38:44,919 --> 01:38:47,503
the average American
woman who is a size 14.
1364
01:38:47,588 --> 01:38:50,340
[Elly] It was like I wanted to
scream it from a mountaintop,
1365
01:38:50,424 --> 01:38:52,467
but I couldn't because I
couldn't tell anyone, right?
1366
01:38:52,551 --> 01:38:54,594
Like to keep everything
under wrap for so long
1367
01:38:54,678 --> 01:38:58,890
and to be a part of the
"I'm No Angel" campaign
was pretty surreal.
1368
01:38:59,016 --> 01:39:03,561
It was just like a smile on
the inside permanently for a
couple of months. [chuckles]
1369
01:39:04,647 --> 01:39:08,316
They had a full double-decker
bus with our photos on the side.
1370
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,528
The video was playing
on the other side.
It was wrapped in us.
1371
01:39:12,613 --> 01:39:17,283
I modeled with Victoria Lee,
Marquita Pring, Candice Huffine,
1372
01:39:17,368 --> 01:39:20,119
Ashley Graham
and Justine Legault.
1373
01:39:20,204 --> 01:39:22,997
So, it was cool meeting
them because I'd seen
them in magazines
1374
01:39:23,082 --> 01:39:24,874
and seen them before, so.
1375
01:39:24,959 --> 01:39:29,128
I had no idea who I was gonna
be modeling with and then all
of a sudden after having seen
1376
01:39:29,213 --> 01:39:35,051
so many photos of them and just
being like I'm sitting next to
you in a photo is, it's a trip.
1377
01:39:35,135 --> 01:39:40,348
It was crazy to, to be there,
to be next to them and actually
be considered an equal
1378
01:39:40,432 --> 01:39:41,474
because these women are-
1379
01:39:41,558 --> 01:39:43,643
Poof, poof!
1380
01:39:43,727 --> 01:39:49,232
And here's me, trying to
climb the ladder, but I'll
get there, it's just, I'm new.
1381
01:39:49,316 --> 01:39:54,237
My agents at JAG were, um,
I shouldn't say shocked because
I think they believe in me,
1382
01:39:54,321 --> 01:39:58,032
but they were surprised,
delightfully surprised
that you know,
1383
01:39:58,117 --> 01:40:02,453
I'd get in, I'd get on the
roster and only be two months
in and then book that like that.
1384
01:40:04,081 --> 01:40:08,376
To see how in a year, you
know, to think that I'm gonna
die and then all of a sudden,
1385
01:40:08,460 --> 01:40:12,296
I'm all better and I'm
doing something that people
would dream of doing
1386
01:40:12,381 --> 01:40:15,091
forever, I couldn't
even imagine.
1387
01:40:15,175 --> 01:40:17,593
You want to meet
my girls? One word.
1388
01:40:19,054 --> 01:40:21,472
Sexy.
1389
01:40:21,557 --> 01:40:23,433
[Elly] I think it's in my eyes.
1390
01:40:23,517 --> 01:40:25,268
It's something
that looks like this.
1391
01:40:25,352 --> 01:40:25,977
Beautiful.
1392
01:40:26,061 --> 01:40:27,353
I'm no angel.
1393
01:40:27,438 --> 01:40:29,480
-I'm no angel.
-I'm no angel.
1394
01:40:31,233 --> 01:40:34,944
Here I am, on a commercial,
going across the
States on buses,
1395
01:40:35,029 --> 01:40:38,239
on trains, on subways,
on billboards.
1396
01:40:38,323 --> 01:40:43,494
It's nuts, like, I had my
fans send in photos from
whenever they would see me.
1397
01:40:43,579 --> 01:40:47,957
They'd see me on TV, they'd
see me on commercials,
Hulu, all over the Internet.
1398
01:40:48,042 --> 01:40:49,125
It was on TMZ.
1399
01:40:49,209 --> 01:40:51,461
It was on Entertainment Tonight.
1400
01:40:51,545 --> 01:40:52,545
It was all over.
1401
01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:54,797
Yeah, it went-- it went viral.
1402
01:40:55,632 --> 01:40:58,092
It was pretty trippy. I'd had
people like, "I saw you on this.
1403
01:40:58,177 --> 01:41:01,554
I saw you on this." You know,
and it was great having my
fans like so excited for me
1404
01:41:01,638 --> 01:41:04,640
because they'd seen
what I'd went through
to get to that point.
1405
01:41:05,517 --> 01:41:12,607
Seeing myself in Times
Square? It was-- I don't
know how to explain it really.
1406
01:41:12,691 --> 01:41:14,692
It was unbelievable.
1407
01:41:14,777 --> 01:41:19,238
I'm really proud of myself and
like that I actually was able to
make it through everything and,
1408
01:41:19,323 --> 01:41:22,158
and get to that point where
I can say like, there I am,
1409
01:41:22,242 --> 01:41:26,120
in front of, you know, thousands
and thousands of people.
1410
01:41:27,539 --> 01:41:33,544
Yeah, it was, pretty shocking.
1411
01:41:36,215 --> 01:41:37,799
[man[ There's Elly,
there you go.
1412
01:41:38,759 --> 01:41:40,510
Go Elly.
1413
01:41:40,594 --> 01:41:47,391
There it is! It's my ad! New
York City! Times Square.
1414
01:41:51,730 --> 01:41:53,356
Pretty awesome.
1415
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:55,775
Recognize me! Recognize me!
1416
01:41:57,736 --> 01:42:02,198
I had always thought, you
know, that'd be amazing,
but I always had doubts.
1417
01:42:02,282 --> 01:42:07,286
I mean, how many people
can say, like, coming
from a town of 50 people
1418
01:42:07,371 --> 01:42:11,040
and working my way up to
like, actually living in New
York and working as a model
1419
01:42:11,125 --> 01:42:14,335
1420
01:42:14,419 --> 01:42:17,547
it doesn't happen
every day and I think
this is my opportunity
1421
01:42:17,631 --> 01:42:19,757
to make that kind
of dream come true.
1422
01:42:33,438 --> 01:42:35,648
♪♪♪
1423
01:45:10,971 --> 01:45:12,513
[music ends]
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