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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,152 --> 00:00:34,152 Subtitles by explosiveskull 2 00:01:28,796 --> 00:01:32,698 Continuing today's hearing on future VA funding... 3 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:34,765 the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs... 4 00:01:34,767 --> 00:01:36,434 is called back to order. 5 00:01:36,436 --> 00:01:37,902 We'll hear from our next witness. 6 00:01:37,904 --> 00:01:40,240 Will you please stand and raise your right hand? 7 00:01:45,945 --> 00:01:48,679 My apologies. 8 00:01:48,681 --> 00:01:51,515 Please raise your right hand. 9 00:01:51,517 --> 00:01:53,651 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give... 10 00:01:53,653 --> 00:01:55,386 this committee will be the truth, the whole truth... 11 00:01:55,388 --> 00:01:57,556 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 12 00:01:57,558 --> 00:01:58,624 I do. 13 00:01:58,626 --> 00:02:00,726 Please state your name. 14 00:02:00,728 --> 00:02:05,363 Private First Class Adam Green, United States Army, retired. 15 00:02:05,365 --> 00:02:07,798 Mr. Green, I understand you've prepared a statement? 16 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,333 I have, sir. 17 00:02:09,335 --> 00:02:11,738 You may enter it into the record at this time. 18 00:02:22,882 --> 00:02:27,621 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee... 19 00:02:29,623 --> 00:02:31,623 I want to thank you for the opportunity... 20 00:02:31,625 --> 00:02:33,524 to speak with you today. 21 00:02:33,526 --> 00:02:35,863 I served in the military f... 22 00:02:39,799 --> 00:02:43,468 I'm sorry, if I could just... 23 00:02:43,470 --> 00:02:46,538 Sure, go ahead. 24 00:02:46,540 --> 00:02:47,642 Thank you, sir. 25 00:02:54,381 --> 00:02:57,683 I've always liked numbers. 26 00:02:57,685 --> 00:03:00,351 Whenever I have a hard time wrapping my head around... 27 00:03:00,353 --> 00:03:04,922 something, I find that numbers make things clearer for me. 28 00:03:04,924 --> 00:03:07,859 They help me understand decisions that are made... 29 00:03:07,861 --> 00:03:11,698 and the impacts of those decisions. 30 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,700 So, if it's all right... 31 00:03:14,702 --> 00:03:19,470 I'd like the start with the number 1.4 million. 32 00:03:19,472 --> 00:03:21,005 That's the number of men and women... 33 00:03:21,007 --> 00:03:24,776 who are currently serving in our military. 34 00:03:24,778 --> 00:03:27,712 555... 35 00:03:27,714 --> 00:03:30,481 that's how many days passed before we invaded one country... 36 00:03:30,483 --> 00:03:34,518 after having been attacked by another. 37 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,691 19... is how old I was when I enlisted. 38 00:03:40,361 --> 00:03:43,028 Three is the number of hours that passed from the time... 39 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:45,463 I arrived in Iraq to the time our transport... 40 00:03:45,465 --> 00:03:47,099 was destroyed by an I.E.D. 41 00:03:47,101 --> 00:03:49,070 And then there's six. 42 00:03:52,038 --> 00:03:54,772 That's the number of inches the piece of shrapnel was... 43 00:03:54,774 --> 00:03:56,777 that severed my spinal cord. 44 00:04:02,482 --> 00:04:05,585 The only problems with numbers is they can be impersonal. 45 00:04:07,954 --> 00:04:11,490 A decision you made had a life-changing impact on me... 46 00:04:11,492 --> 00:04:13,859 and a lot of soldiers like me. 47 00:04:13,861 --> 00:04:16,128 Now, I'm not a military expert. 48 00:04:16,130 --> 00:04:19,964 I don't know a whole lot about geopolitical affairs. 49 00:04:19,966 --> 00:04:22,433 I'm just an ordinary American. 50 00:04:22,435 --> 00:04:24,034 And I understand that you've asked me here... 51 00:04:24,036 --> 00:04:26,871 because you all have some questions for me, 52 00:04:26,873 --> 00:04:32,746 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question. 53 00:04:39,752 --> 00:04:41,688 How the hell did this happen? 54 00:04:43,423 --> 00:04:46,825 My fellow citizens, at this hour... 55 00:04:46,827 --> 00:04:49,693 American and coalition forces are in the early stages... 56 00:04:49,695 --> 00:04:53,498 of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free... 57 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:57,135 its people and to defend the world from grave danger. 58 00:04:57,137 --> 00:04:59,537 The start of the campaign called Shock and Awe. 59 00:04:59,539 --> 00:05:01,005 Shock and Awe. 60 00:05:01,007 --> 00:05:02,940 - Shock and Awe. - Shock and Awe, indeed. 61 00:05:02,942 --> 00:05:04,775 Air raid sirens are going off in Baghdad... 62 00:05:04,777 --> 00:05:06,477 The massive military operation... 63 00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:08,113 to topple Saddam Hussein is now in effect. 64 00:05:08,115 --> 00:05:09,981 Firing 600 Cruise missiles... 65 00:05:09,983 --> 00:05:12,017 and every type of war plane in the American arsenal. 66 00:05:12,019 --> 00:05:14,085 A fearsome display of American military might. 67 00:05:14,087 --> 00:05:16,053 The scale of this attack... 68 00:05:16,055 --> 00:05:17,923 is considerably higher than anything we've seen before. 69 00:05:17,925 --> 00:05:19,825 We're taking out whole buildings... 70 00:05:19,827 --> 00:05:21,226 with these Cruise missiles. 71 00:05:21,228 --> 00:05:22,928 U.S. war planes unleashed... 72 00:05:22,930 --> 00:05:25,229 to promise massive bombardment of Baghdad. 73 00:05:25,231 --> 00:05:27,731 3,000 Tomahawk Cruise missiles... 74 00:05:27,733 --> 00:05:30,801 satellite-guided precision bombs, laser-guided bombs. 75 00:05:30,803 --> 00:05:32,671 I think the citizens of Baghdad know... 76 00:05:32,673 --> 00:05:35,573 exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe. 77 00:05:35,575 --> 00:05:37,508 Just over the Kuwait-Iraq border... 78 00:05:37,510 --> 00:05:40,544 we watched as columns of troops moved into the country. 79 00:05:40,546 --> 00:05:41,613 They're well on their way to Baghdad. 80 00:05:41,615 --> 00:05:43,181 They have met resistance. 81 00:05:43,183 --> 00:05:45,049 We can't leave the television... 82 00:05:45,051 --> 00:05:49,721 every tank, every helicopter... is that my son? 83 00:05:49,723 --> 00:05:52,190 Now Baghdad is within striking distance... 84 00:05:52,192 --> 00:05:54,092 just a few short miles away... 85 00:05:54,094 --> 00:05:57,094 as U.S. troops make their final push forward. 86 00:05:57,096 --> 00:05:59,563 We want to slaughter them all... 87 00:05:59,565 --> 00:06:02,534 those invaders, their tombs will be here in Iraq. 88 00:06:02,536 --> 00:06:04,803 If Saddam Hussein is alive, he is quote... 89 00:06:04,805 --> 00:06:08,272 "Not in control of his military and of his government." 90 00:06:08,274 --> 00:06:10,909 These are opening stages of what will be a broad... 91 00:06:10,911 --> 00:06:11,913 and concerted campaign. 92 00:06:13,113 --> 00:06:15,115 Could be longer and more difficult than some predict. 93 00:06:16,817 --> 00:06:19,149 And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable... 94 00:06:19,151 --> 00:06:23,587 and free country will require our sustained commitment. 95 00:06:23,589 --> 00:06:27,291 And you can know that our forces will be coming home... 96 00:06:27,293 --> 00:06:29,863 as soon as their work is done. 97 00:06:33,666 --> 00:06:35,769 Keep moving! Keep moving! Let's go! 98 00:06:38,805 --> 00:06:40,772 - Where are they taking us? - Shut up. Head down. 99 00:06:40,774 --> 00:06:42,741 Keep your mouth shut or I'll blow your fucking head off. 100 00:06:42,743 --> 00:06:44,808 - All right, all right. - Are you a soldier? 101 00:06:44,810 --> 00:06:46,645 - Journalist. - Who do you work for? 102 00:06:46,647 --> 00:06:48,580 - Knight Ridder. - Never heard of it. 103 00:06:48,582 --> 00:06:50,151 You should read more. 104 00:06:54,788 --> 00:06:55,986 What is your name? 105 00:06:55,988 --> 00:06:57,892 Jonathan Landay. 106 00:07:00,594 --> 00:07:02,930 Goodbye, Jonathan Landay. 107 00:07:08,067 --> 00:07:11,101 Exercise complete. 108 00:07:11,103 --> 00:07:14,272 What you have just engaged in is called The Gray Man Exercise. 109 00:07:14,274 --> 00:07:16,308 And what you have just witnessed... 110 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:20,044 is a colossal failure of that exercise. 111 00:07:20,046 --> 00:07:21,645 If a journalist is captured... 112 00:07:21,647 --> 00:07:23,582 terrorists may keep you alive... 113 00:07:23,584 --> 00:07:27,284 in hopes of getting information or exchanging you for a ransom. 114 00:07:27,286 --> 00:07:30,854 But if you give them a reason to kill you, they will. 115 00:07:30,856 --> 00:07:33,291 The purpose of this exercise is to teach you... 116 00:07:33,293 --> 00:07:35,993 how to avoid drawing the attention of your captors. 117 00:07:35,995 --> 00:07:37,294 Hence the name, Gray Man. 118 00:07:37,296 --> 00:07:38,964 Can you untie me? 119 00:07:38,966 --> 00:07:40,965 This could save your life one day, you understand? 120 00:07:40,967 --> 00:07:43,668 I do, I've been in 11 war zones, I've been shot at... 121 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:46,637 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously. 122 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:50,808 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job. 123 00:07:50,810 --> 00:07:53,044 And I'm fairly certain that none of this training... 124 00:07:53,046 --> 00:07:54,678 is going to be very useful... 125 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,651 when I'm mopping the floor at Staples. 126 00:08:05,091 --> 00:08:07,058 Both of the twin towers... 127 00:08:07,060 --> 00:08:09,760 the World Trade Center in New York's lower Manhattan... 128 00:08:09,762 --> 00:08:13,164 have been struck by planes this morning within 20 minutes. 129 00:08:13,166 --> 00:08:15,200 First, it was the North Tower that was struck... 130 00:08:15,202 --> 00:08:17,736 with a gaping hole left in two sides of that building. 131 00:08:17,738 --> 00:08:19,137 Good God. 132 00:08:19,139 --> 00:08:21,171 20 minutes later, the second building... 133 00:08:21,173 --> 00:08:24,075 the second tower in that World Trade Center complex... 134 00:08:24,077 --> 00:08:25,976 I think we should keep Elizabeth in school. 135 00:08:25,978 --> 00:08:27,277 Yeah, no, I think that's a good idea. 136 00:08:27,279 --> 00:08:29,214 Why freak her out, huh? 137 00:08:29,216 --> 00:08:32,417 And I'll call Ali and Jennifer as soon as the phones open up. 138 00:08:32,419 --> 00:08:33,751 - I love you. - I love you. 139 00:08:33,753 --> 00:08:35,086 Okay. 140 00:08:35,088 --> 00:08:36,721 We should tell you that... 141 00:08:36,723 --> 00:08:38,423 we have gotten calls from people... 142 00:08:38,425 --> 00:08:40,692 who live and work around the Pentagon who have told us... 143 00:08:40,694 --> 00:08:42,159 that they have seen something... 144 00:08:42,161 --> 00:08:44,162 that they have described as an explosion. 145 00:08:44,164 --> 00:08:47,101 This is information we have not been able to confirm. 146 00:09:23,203 --> 00:09:24,372 Get up. 147 00:09:27,741 --> 00:09:29,207 Sorry, Dad. 148 00:09:29,209 --> 00:09:31,775 Monday Night Football went long. 149 00:09:31,777 --> 00:09:33,813 Let's clean this place up. 150 00:09:41,121 --> 00:09:42,453 Trade Center here in New York... 151 00:09:42,455 --> 00:09:44,322 have been hit by airplanes. 152 00:09:44,324 --> 00:09:47,491 In Washington, there is a large fire at the Pentagon. 153 00:09:47,493 --> 00:09:49,360 The Pentagon has been evacuated. 154 00:09:49,362 --> 00:09:52,496 And there is, you can see, perhaps, the second tower... 155 00:09:52,498 --> 00:09:56,266 the front tower, the top portion of which is collapsing. 156 00:09:56,268 --> 00:09:58,502 Good Lord. 157 00:09:58,504 --> 00:10:03,441 Lot of people going to need a drink tonight. 158 00:10:03,443 --> 00:10:05,746 Soldiers drink free. 159 00:10:08,515 --> 00:10:11,448 There are no words. 160 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:15,819 All federal office buildings now... 161 00:10:15,821 --> 00:10:18,490 all federal office buildings in Washington, D.C. 162 00:10:18,492 --> 00:10:21,860 are being evacuated as we speak to you now. 163 00:10:21,862 --> 00:10:24,895 We are in the middle of an extraordinary catastrophe. 164 00:10:24,897 --> 00:10:27,932 The most important things to tell you if you just joined... 165 00:10:27,934 --> 00:10:31,034 in is that what has all the makings of an extraordinarily.. 166 00:10:31,036 --> 00:10:34,505 well-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York 167 00:10:34,507 --> 00:10:35,973 has taken place this morning. 168 00:10:35,975 --> 00:10:38,108 The Trade Centers here in New York... 169 00:10:38,110 --> 00:10:40,410 the two World Trade Center towers have collapsed... 170 00:10:40,412 --> 00:10:43,717 after being hit by planes. 171 00:10:46,953 --> 00:10:50,053 Yeah, this is John Walcott from Knight Ridder. 172 00:10:50,055 --> 00:10:51,789 Is he there? 173 00:10:51,791 --> 00:10:55,860 Yeah, okay, well, tell him I'll try him back later. 174 00:10:55,862 --> 00:10:57,294 Thank you. 175 00:10:57,296 --> 00:10:59,130 I just spoke with my wife. 176 00:10:59,132 --> 00:11:01,432 She and the kids are afraid to leave the house. 177 00:11:01,434 --> 00:11:04,101 What are they doing over there? 178 00:11:04,103 --> 00:11:05,370 They're watching the White House. 179 00:11:05,372 --> 00:11:06,971 To see if it gets hit? 180 00:11:06,973 --> 00:11:08,338 Yes. 181 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:10,975 Oh, Jesus. All right, go home to your family. 182 00:11:10,977 --> 00:11:14,111 And tell your colleagues that maybe they want to stay away... 183 00:11:14,113 --> 00:11:15,446 from the windows, okay? 184 00:11:15,448 --> 00:11:17,515 - Thanks, John. - Yeah. 185 00:11:17,517 --> 00:11:19,520 Okay. All right. Okay. 186 00:11:22,421 --> 00:11:25,823 Their working thesis is that this is overseas terrorism... 187 00:11:25,825 --> 00:11:27,292 not domestic. 188 00:11:27,294 --> 00:11:29,494 Attention will quickly turn to the bin Laden group... 189 00:11:29,496 --> 00:11:31,295 because it has long tentacles. 190 00:11:31,297 --> 00:11:34,064 There are very few others that could have pulled this off. 191 00:11:34,066 --> 00:11:35,833 Are we sending somebody to New York? 192 00:11:35,835 --> 00:11:38,468 Ken Moore at Suvu was already up there covering Wall Street. 193 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:39,971 What's going on over at State? 194 00:11:39,973 --> 00:11:41,840 Powell's in Peru. 195 00:11:41,842 --> 00:11:43,441 They're working on getting him home as soon as possible. 196 00:11:43,443 --> 00:11:46,311 All right, what we need to do is track the President. 197 00:11:46,313 --> 00:11:48,612 Track his top people and find out... 198 00:11:48,614 --> 00:11:50,848 who's responsible for all this. 199 00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:53,550 We need as many sources at as many agencies... 200 00:11:53,552 --> 00:11:56,855 to go on the record and tell us all what we know has to be true. 201 00:11:56,857 --> 00:12:00,357 Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda! It's Al Qaeda. 202 00:12:00,359 --> 00:12:01,895 It's definitely Al Qaeda. 203 00:12:03,262 --> 00:12:05,429 What the hell are you wearing? 204 00:12:05,431 --> 00:12:07,631 Well, the wifey wanted to evacuate... 205 00:12:07,633 --> 00:12:11,369 but she locked the cat and the keys in the cars. 206 00:12:11,371 --> 00:12:13,938 So, I biked in. 207 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:17,909 We need to know how they pulled this off. 208 00:12:17,911 --> 00:12:19,977 Anybody needs to go home to their family... 209 00:12:19,979 --> 00:12:21,913 feel free to do so. 210 00:12:21,915 --> 00:12:24,182 Just came from the family. 211 00:12:24,184 --> 00:12:26,887 Let's get to work. 212 00:12:28,121 --> 00:12:29,654 It's Walcott. 213 00:12:29,656 --> 00:12:32,356 Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life... 214 00:12:32,358 --> 00:12:37,127 our very freedom, came under attack in a series... 215 00:12:37,129 --> 00:12:40,198 of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. 216 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,632 Adam, hand me the Jameson, please. 217 00:12:41,634 --> 00:12:43,934 Yes, sir. Here you go. 218 00:12:43,936 --> 00:12:45,238 Thank you, son. 219 00:12:46,973 --> 00:12:48,305 It's on the house, gentlemen. 220 00:12:48,307 --> 00:12:50,042 Thanks. 221 00:12:51,074 --> 00:12:52,577 Dad's saying we're staying open as late as they want. 222 00:12:52,579 --> 00:12:55,145 They must be scared. 223 00:12:55,147 --> 00:12:58,348 - They're Rangers. - They're boys. 224 00:12:58,350 --> 00:13:02,153 Our military is powerful and it's prepared. 225 00:13:02,155 --> 00:13:03,621 The search is underway for those... 226 00:13:03,623 --> 00:13:05,555 who are behind these evil acts. 227 00:13:05,557 --> 00:13:08,293 I've directed the full resources of our intelligence.. 228 00:13:08,295 --> 00:13:11,496 and law enforcement communities to find those responsible... 229 00:13:11,498 --> 00:13:14,368 and to bring them to justice. 230 00:13:18,338 --> 00:13:21,005 It's been 33 hours since the terrible... 231 00:13:21,007 --> 00:13:23,408 and unprecedented attack on the United States. 232 00:13:23,410 --> 00:13:26,443 There is, as we've said, an enormous search and rescue... 233 00:13:26,445 --> 00:13:31,149 operation, and enormous and intense criminal investigation. 234 00:13:31,151 --> 00:13:32,616 And we're just beginning to understand... 235 00:13:32,618 --> 00:13:35,285 the extents of the catastrophe. 236 00:13:35,287 --> 00:13:37,188 I feel like I haven't slept in a month. 237 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:39,122 It's going to be a bunch of zombies running this town. 238 00:13:39,124 --> 00:13:40,591 What do you know about the preliminary plans... 239 00:13:40,593 --> 00:13:42,260 to go after bin Laden? 240 00:13:42,262 --> 00:13:44,194 I don't have anything to give you on that yet. 241 00:13:44,196 --> 00:13:46,264 Ok, well, how long before we're on the ground in Afghanistan... 242 00:13:46,266 --> 00:13:48,131 and how long do they project we'll be there? 243 00:13:48,133 --> 00:13:51,635 Look, I'm trying to get answers to the same questions you are. 244 00:13:51,637 --> 00:13:54,739 What I can say is, most of the talk this morning... 245 00:13:54,741 --> 00:13:57,308 hasn't been about Afghanistan. 246 00:13:57,310 --> 00:13:59,113 Well, what's it been about? 247 00:14:00,747 --> 00:14:02,447 Iraq? 248 00:14:02,449 --> 00:14:04,481 I got it from a source at State who got it from the Pentagon. 249 00:14:04,483 --> 00:14:07,150 In connection with the attacks? 250 00:14:07,152 --> 00:14:09,287 Crackpot theories from people who don't know... 251 00:14:09,289 --> 00:14:10,587 what the hell they're talking about. 252 00:14:10,589 --> 00:14:12,189 It was Rumsfeld. 253 00:14:12,191 --> 00:14:13,757 Really? 254 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,193 Yeah, apparently, there's a lot of people over at Defense... 255 00:14:16,195 --> 00:14:18,496 that think this had to be State-sponsored. 256 00:14:18,498 --> 00:14:22,100 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug... 257 00:14:22,102 --> 00:14:25,202 son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board... 258 00:14:25,204 --> 00:14:26,603 the Prince of Darkness? 259 00:14:26,605 --> 00:14:28,539 - Richard Perle. - Right. Perle. 260 00:14:28,541 --> 00:14:30,774 And that neo-con over at the Project... 261 00:14:30,776 --> 00:14:33,311 for the New American whatever the fuck... 262 00:14:33,313 --> 00:14:34,645 New American Century, Bill Kristol. 263 00:14:34,647 --> 00:14:36,481 That giant butthole, Bill Kristol. 264 00:14:36,483 --> 00:14:40,351 And he's got to be creaming his little jammies over this. 265 00:14:40,353 --> 00:14:42,186 Yeah, these think-tank boys... 266 00:14:42,188 --> 00:14:44,322 have been trying to push out Saddam Hussein since '97. 267 00:14:44,324 --> 00:14:48,292 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick... 268 00:14:48,294 --> 00:14:50,361 a Western-style of democracy in the Middle East... 269 00:14:50,363 --> 00:14:52,730 it's going to magically proliferate... 270 00:14:52,732 --> 00:14:54,399 and wind up protecting Israel. 271 00:14:54,401 --> 00:14:56,768 You got to give them credit for creative thinking. 272 00:14:56,770 --> 00:14:59,236 It's Ivory Tower crap. 273 00:14:59,238 --> 00:15:02,140 I mean, in what world do they think that Osama bin Laden... 274 00:15:02,142 --> 00:15:04,775 and Saddam Hussein hatched this thing up together? 275 00:15:04,777 --> 00:15:06,811 Let's find out if these dickweeds... 276 00:15:06,813 --> 00:15:09,813 are serious about Iraq, okay? 277 00:15:09,815 --> 00:15:11,616 Look, I'm not saying there's a link to Iraq... 278 00:15:11,618 --> 00:15:13,183 and neither is my boss. 279 00:15:13,185 --> 00:15:14,452 This is just something we're hearing. 280 00:15:14,454 --> 00:15:15,752 From whom? 281 00:15:15,754 --> 00:15:18,121 Who told me or where is it coming from? 282 00:15:18,123 --> 00:15:19,557 Take your pick. 283 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:21,092 Someone at the Pentagon. 284 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:23,093 In the Vice President's office? 285 00:15:23,095 --> 00:15:24,428 It's just theories. 286 00:15:24,430 --> 00:15:26,430 Are there any Senators talking to anyone... 287 00:15:26,432 --> 00:15:28,632 saying anything different? 288 00:15:28,634 --> 00:15:30,268 I know Powell's objected... 289 00:15:30,270 --> 00:15:33,737 to going into anywhere other than Afghanistan. 290 00:16:05,338 --> 00:16:06,404 Go away. 291 00:16:06,406 --> 00:16:07,737 One question and I'm gone. 292 00:16:07,739 --> 00:16:09,473 I'm not talking to you on the record. 293 00:16:09,475 --> 00:16:13,046 Anonymous source, intelligence community. 294 00:16:14,214 --> 00:16:15,712 You can't use my name. 295 00:16:15,714 --> 00:16:18,149 Never have, never will. 296 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:19,116 Or my agency. 297 00:16:19,118 --> 00:16:21,055 Pinky swear. 298 00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,890 One question. 299 00:16:25,892 --> 00:16:28,796 Are you looking into an Iraqi connection? 300 00:16:30,796 --> 00:16:33,530 Who's the you in that question? 301 00:16:33,532 --> 00:16:35,298 Are we in the United States? 302 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:36,833 There are some people. 303 00:16:36,835 --> 00:16:38,468 Are we in my agency? 304 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:40,371 Not that I'm aware of. 305 00:16:40,373 --> 00:16:42,874 Am I, personally? 306 00:16:42,876 --> 00:16:45,342 No way. 307 00:16:45,344 --> 00:16:47,377 Okay, the second part to the question. 308 00:16:47,379 --> 00:16:48,513 No. 309 00:16:48,515 --> 00:16:50,184 Thank you. 310 00:16:52,484 --> 00:16:54,751 So, no one you work with at the Library of Congress has ever... 311 00:16:54,753 --> 00:16:56,821 found a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda? 312 00:16:56,823 --> 00:16:59,524 No one I work with would expect to find a link. 313 00:16:59,526 --> 00:17:01,324 So, as far as you know... 314 00:17:01,326 --> 00:17:02,793 there's nothing substantial to tie Iraq to bin Laden? 315 00:17:02,795 --> 00:17:04,461 There's nothing even circumstantial. 316 00:17:04,463 --> 00:17:06,496 To lump together a secular leader like Saddam... 317 00:17:06,498 --> 00:17:09,499 with an Islamic extremist like bin Laden is simply... 318 00:17:09,501 --> 00:17:11,637 to have no understanding of the Muslim world. 319 00:17:15,941 --> 00:17:17,874 It's a bit timid. 320 00:17:17,876 --> 00:17:19,944 No one's actually come out and said anything publicly yet. 321 00:17:19,946 --> 00:17:21,946 Maybe it's just backroom speculation. 322 00:17:21,948 --> 00:17:23,480 Pretty dangerous speculation. 323 00:17:23,482 --> 00:17:25,483 Can't we hit it harder than this? 324 00:17:25,485 --> 00:17:27,418 The attacks were just 10 days ago. 325 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:28,553 Everyone's trying to play catch-up. 326 00:17:28,555 --> 00:17:30,487 Got to press our reliables. 327 00:17:30,489 --> 00:17:32,489 I'll reach out to The Italian Lady. 328 00:17:32,491 --> 00:17:34,492 You think you can get Loose Nukes to go on the record? 329 00:17:34,494 --> 00:17:36,761 I'm lucky to get her on deep background. 330 00:17:36,763 --> 00:17:40,497 Well, double down on the Charm Offensive. 331 00:17:40,499 --> 00:17:43,266 Buongiorno, this is Warren Strobel. 332 00:17:43,268 --> 00:17:46,536 I was looking to get your advice on a critical scheduling matter. 333 00:17:46,538 --> 00:17:49,607 If you could contact me at your earliest possible convenience... 334 00:17:49,609 --> 00:17:52,576 I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. 335 00:17:52,578 --> 00:17:53,710 Hello. 336 00:17:53,712 --> 00:17:55,513 Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan. 337 00:17:55,515 --> 00:17:56,980 I don't have anything for you. 338 00:17:56,982 --> 00:18:00,418 No, I know, I know, but I'm doing a story... 339 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:02,786 on the administration's seeming interest in Iraq. 340 00:18:02,788 --> 00:18:04,788 Jonathan, we're not going to talk about this. 341 00:18:04,790 --> 00:18:07,691 No, I know, I know I'm not talking about this... 342 00:18:07,693 --> 00:18:10,995 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication? 343 00:18:10,997 --> 00:18:12,365 Bye, Jonathan. 344 00:18:14,366 --> 00:18:15,699 What'd she say? 345 00:18:15,701 --> 00:18:18,236 She sends her love. 346 00:18:18,238 --> 00:18:19,637 Across the nation... 347 00:18:19,639 --> 00:18:21,572 flags have been flying off the shelves. 348 00:18:21,574 --> 00:18:25,476 A wave of patriotism has been spreading across America. 349 00:18:25,478 --> 00:18:29,280 At times like this, it's what we do in America. 350 00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:32,682 We the People pull together. 351 00:18:32,684 --> 00:18:34,685 They had a discussion in school today... 352 00:18:34,687 --> 00:18:37,420 about why America is so great, right? 353 00:18:37,422 --> 00:18:38,889 Yeah, and what'd you say? 354 00:18:38,891 --> 00:18:40,490 It's a free country. 355 00:18:40,492 --> 00:18:41,926 That's a great answer. 356 00:18:41,928 --> 00:18:43,526 That's Mama's boy. 357 00:18:43,528 --> 00:18:45,295 May I be done now? 358 00:18:45,297 --> 00:18:47,297 Not until I get a big hug. 359 00:18:47,299 --> 00:18:50,400 Okay, after your mom gets a hug. 360 00:18:50,402 --> 00:18:51,971 Oh, whoa! 361 00:18:54,673 --> 00:18:56,306 Proud of you, munchie. 362 00:18:56,308 --> 00:18:58,211 Love you. 363 00:19:00,446 --> 00:19:04,047 They're really pushing this nationalism thing at school. 364 00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:05,815 What do you expect? 365 00:19:05,817 --> 00:19:07,618 Of course, there's going to be patriotism now. 366 00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:11,421 Oh, you want to call it patriotism? 367 00:19:11,423 --> 00:19:12,922 Fine. 368 00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:14,691 It smells a lot like nationalism to me. 369 00:19:14,693 --> 00:19:19,663 That's how it started in Yugoslavia before the war. 370 00:19:19,665 --> 00:19:21,634 Tore my country apart. 371 00:19:44,957 --> 00:19:47,891 You want some help? 372 00:19:47,893 --> 00:19:50,529 No, I'm okay, thank you. 373 00:19:52,664 --> 00:19:54,631 Okay, have a good night. 374 00:19:54,633 --> 00:19:55,635 Good night. 375 00:20:03,543 --> 00:20:05,909 How real is the Iraqi conversation? 376 00:20:05,911 --> 00:20:07,911 There's an argument taking place. 377 00:20:07,913 --> 00:20:10,848 Yeah? Who's winning it? 378 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,615 I couldn't say. 379 00:20:12,617 --> 00:20:16,853 Look, my boss is gonna send me to Afghanistan, and all I want.. 380 00:20:16,855 --> 00:20:20,390 to know is should he be buying a roundtrip ticket... 381 00:20:20,392 --> 00:20:24,597 or is Afghanistan just a layover on the way to Baghdad? 382 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:31,468 I can't tell you anything. 383 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:33,504 I believe major acts of terrorism... 384 00:20:33,506 --> 00:20:36,607 against the U.S. are state-sponsored. 385 00:20:36,609 --> 00:20:39,810 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind... 386 00:20:39,812 --> 00:20:42,746 the most massive terrorist assault in human history... 387 00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:44,648 "which state?" 388 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:49,853 I think Iraq is the state that most immediately comes to mind. 389 00:20:49,855 --> 00:20:52,656 This is an idea which in... 390 00:20:52,658 --> 00:20:54,725 is gaining increased credibility. 391 00:20:54,727 --> 00:20:56,627 Knight Ridder, it's Strobel. 392 00:20:56,629 --> 00:20:58,094 Jim Woolsey is going to Europe... 393 00:20:58,096 --> 00:20:59,830 to try to find a link between Saddam... 394 00:20:59,832 --> 00:21:02,602 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. 395 00:21:03,769 --> 00:21:05,636 Is he freelancing? 396 00:21:05,638 --> 00:21:07,772 He was sent on an official government jet. 397 00:21:07,774 --> 00:21:10,006 Jesus, who sent him? 398 00:21:10,008 --> 00:21:12,709 The deputy defense secretary. 399 00:21:12,711 --> 00:21:14,911 Can you meet for coffee? 400 00:21:14,913 --> 00:21:16,450 I'll be in touch. 401 00:21:17,883 --> 00:21:19,883 Hi, this is Warren Strobel with Knight Ridder. 402 00:21:19,885 --> 00:21:21,619 I'm working on a story... 403 00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:23,187 about former CIA director James Woolsey traveling to Europe. 404 00:21:23,189 --> 00:21:25,188 Do you know anything about that? 405 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:28,191 I didn't have anything to do with that. 406 00:21:28,193 --> 00:21:30,194 But you're aware that such a trip has taken place? 407 00:21:30,196 --> 00:21:33,730 I can't be your only source on this. 408 00:21:33,732 --> 00:21:35,901 All right, stay in touch. 409 00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:40,470 Hey, John. 410 00:21:40,472 --> 00:21:42,605 Woolsey was sent to Europe to look for evidence... 411 00:21:42,607 --> 00:21:45,543 linking Saddam to the World Trade Center bombing in '93. 412 00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:48,711 Wouldn't be a fool's errand if they didn't send a fool. 413 00:21:48,713 --> 00:21:50,547 This came from The Italian Lady? 414 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:51,748 And a diplomat who can confirm... 415 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:53,082 the trip was arranged by Wolfowitz. 416 00:21:53,084 --> 00:21:54,752 What the hell is going on over at Defense? 417 00:21:54,754 --> 00:21:56,786 Question is, are they trying to figure out... 418 00:21:56,788 --> 00:21:58,555 if there's any truth to their theory... 419 00:21:58,557 --> 00:22:01,191 or are they already convinced their theory is true? 420 00:22:01,193 --> 00:22:02,927 You're sure about this Woolsey trip? 421 00:22:02,929 --> 00:22:04,928 - Positive. - You have a third source? 422 00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:06,030 - Yeah. - Who? 423 00:22:06,032 --> 00:22:07,834 Jim Woolsey. 424 00:22:20,112 --> 00:22:23,917 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip? 425 00:22:26,786 --> 00:22:28,752 I figured you'd be calling... 426 00:22:28,754 --> 00:22:30,557 I just didn't think it would be this soon. 427 00:22:33,659 --> 00:22:35,758 How real is the chatter about Iraq? 428 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,628 Very. 429 00:22:37,630 --> 00:22:41,532 And it's diverting our attention from the people who attacked us. 430 00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:44,171 How soon before Iraq becomes the focus? 431 00:22:45,904 --> 00:22:48,639 We need to blow something up. 432 00:22:48,641 --> 00:22:50,674 Not enough targets in Afghanistan. 433 00:22:50,676 --> 00:22:51,809 What about bin Laden? 434 00:22:51,811 --> 00:22:53,276 You take out bin Laden... 435 00:22:53,278 --> 00:22:55,714 interest in the war goes right down the shitter. 436 00:22:57,650 --> 00:23:00,851 A joint offensive in its sixth day in Tora Bora... 437 00:23:00,853 --> 00:23:02,820 bin Laden's suspected hideout... 438 00:23:02,822 --> 00:23:05,589 but still no signs of the world's most wanted man. 439 00:23:05,591 --> 00:23:09,159 U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda positions from the air... 440 00:23:09,161 --> 00:23:10,894 while anti-Taliban tanks... 441 00:23:10,896 --> 00:23:12,696 and troops meet strong resistance... 442 00:23:12,698 --> 00:23:15,131 cave to cave, from Al Qaeda fighters. 443 00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:17,001 With yet more conflicting reports... 444 00:23:17,003 --> 00:23:19,005 on bin Laden's whereabouts. 445 00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:22,672 What you got there... 446 00:23:22,674 --> 00:23:24,675 is that your State of the Union piece for tomorrow? 447 00:23:24,677 --> 00:23:26,709 - Yup. - You got a lunch today? 448 00:23:26,711 --> 00:23:28,879 Not with you. 449 00:23:28,881 --> 00:23:30,980 I got a one-on-one with Looney Tunes over at State. 450 00:23:30,982 --> 00:23:32,582 There's a dry hole. 451 00:23:32,584 --> 00:23:34,284 Yeah, well, I figured if I just let him ramble on... 452 00:23:34,286 --> 00:23:36,320 he'll accidentally stumble into something newsworthy. 453 00:23:36,322 --> 00:23:37,755 Yeah, well, give my best. 454 00:23:37,757 --> 00:23:39,790 I will. Hot off the presses, Beryl. 455 00:23:39,792 --> 00:23:41,225 Did you use punctuation this time? 456 00:23:41,227 --> 00:23:43,159 I even threw in a few semicolons just for you. 457 00:23:43,161 --> 00:23:46,764 I bet you're the pride of the University of Missouri. 458 00:23:46,766 --> 00:23:50,801 Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan... 459 00:23:50,803 --> 00:23:53,672 now occupy cells at Guantanamo Bay. 460 00:23:56,909 --> 00:23:59,976 And terrorist leaders who urged followers to sacrifice... 461 00:23:59,978 --> 00:24:03,280 their lives are running' for their own. 462 00:24:03,282 --> 00:24:07,851 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own... 463 00:24:07,853 --> 00:24:11,788 security is to ensure freedom for other countries... 464 00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:16,060 looking to embrace democracy as a way of life. 465 00:24:16,062 --> 00:24:18,861 Now, we... excuse me... we understand that we can't... 466 00:24:18,863 --> 00:24:20,863 be the policemen to the world... 467 00:24:20,865 --> 00:24:23,266 but we feel we have a responsibility to... 468 00:24:23,268 --> 00:24:24,668 Yeah, John Walcott. 469 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:26,102 John! 470 00:24:26,104 --> 00:24:27,236 Dixie? 471 00:24:27,238 --> 00:24:28,706 John, can you hear me? 472 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,239 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you. 473 00:24:30,241 --> 00:24:32,610 I got a call from one of our boys downrange today... 474 00:24:32,612 --> 00:24:34,178 asking me what the fuck's going on. 475 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:35,979 Are you still in Afghanistan? 476 00:24:35,981 --> 00:24:37,614 Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan... 477 00:24:37,616 --> 00:24:39,115 but nobody knows what the mission is anymore. 478 00:24:39,117 --> 00:24:41,051 How do you bomb a country back into the Stone Age... 479 00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:43,219 that's already in the middle of the goddamn Stone Age? 480 00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:46,357 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror... 481 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,727 from threatening America, or our friends and allies... 482 00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:52,630 with weapons of mass destruction. 483 00:24:52,632 --> 00:24:56,667 We believe that Afghanistan is ripe for freedom. 484 00:24:56,669 --> 00:25:00,070 Now, this is a country that has been struggling to free... 485 00:25:00,072 --> 00:25:03,273 itself from the repressive grip of the Taliban for years. 486 00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:06,643 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets. 487 00:25:06,645 --> 00:25:08,411 We may never get him in our crosshairs again. 488 00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,982 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where? 489 00:25:11,984 --> 00:25:14,284 Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since... 490 00:25:14,286 --> 00:25:18,121 September the 11th, but we know their true nature. 491 00:25:18,123 --> 00:25:21,958 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind... 492 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,961 of stability that comes with the rule of law. 493 00:25:24,963 --> 00:25:28,966 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these... 494 00:25:28,968 --> 00:25:33,871 and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil... 495 00:25:33,873 --> 00:25:35,938 arming to threaten the peace of the world. 496 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:37,675 You'll have to excuse me... 497 00:25:37,677 --> 00:25:40,244 Warren, but I have to prepare a briefing for Secretary Powell. 498 00:25:40,246 --> 00:25:41,245 Sure. 499 00:25:41,247 --> 00:25:42,412 Anything else you need from me? 500 00:25:42,414 --> 00:25:44,180 No, no, thank you. 501 00:25:44,182 --> 00:25:45,983 I think you've given me more than enough to chew on. 502 00:25:45,985 --> 00:25:47,316 Excellent. 503 00:25:47,318 --> 00:25:48,951 And you feel confident that Afghanistan... 504 00:25:48,953 --> 00:25:50,286 will accept a Western-style democracy? 505 00:25:50,288 --> 00:25:51,788 Oh, absolutely. 506 00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:54,291 Just as confident as we are about Iraq. 507 00:25:54,293 --> 00:25:58,062 Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious. 508 00:25:58,064 --> 00:26:00,863 Oh, no, no, no, that debate is over. 509 00:26:00,865 --> 00:26:04,200 Saddam's got to go, the only question is how. 510 00:26:04,202 --> 00:26:05,369 Good talking to you, Warren. 511 00:26:05,371 --> 00:26:07,273 Yeah, you, too, sir. 512 00:26:09,441 --> 00:26:11,207 The president is going to invade Iraq. 513 00:26:11,209 --> 00:26:12,942 You got this from Looney Tunes? 514 00:26:12,944 --> 00:26:15,044 Yeah, and confirmed by a diplomat who says he met... 515 00:26:15,046 --> 00:26:18,148 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with... 516 00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:21,485 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq." 517 00:26:21,487 --> 00:26:23,786 Do you think we can get enough to run the story? 518 00:26:23,788 --> 00:26:25,924 Unfortunately, I do. 519 00:26:38,804 --> 00:26:40,403 So much for the ceasefire. 520 00:26:40,405 --> 00:26:42,206 Yeah, well, really nice of us... 521 00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:44,844 to temporarily stop shooting at them, though. 522 00:26:56,255 --> 00:26:59,022 ♪ I've been bound up and wound up ♪ 523 00:26:59,024 --> 00:27:01,190 ♪ Could barely get a sound up ♪ 524 00:27:01,192 --> 00:27:02,993 ♪ Been cheated mistreated ♪ 525 00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:05,763 ♪ Don't even want to think of it ♪ 526 00:27:05,765 --> 00:27:07,765 What are you up to, Smucker? 527 00:27:07,767 --> 00:27:11,001 You know, I tried to chat with your translator today. 528 00:27:11,003 --> 00:27:12,535 Yeah, how'd that go? 529 00:27:12,537 --> 00:27:15,272 Well, for a guy who gets paid to talk for a living... 530 00:27:15,274 --> 00:27:17,975 he was unusually quiet. 531 00:27:17,977 --> 00:27:20,310 He only talks to me. 532 00:27:20,312 --> 00:27:24,413 Really? And what'd he tell you? 533 00:27:24,415 --> 00:27:27,383 Dollar, I'll let you read all about it. 534 00:27:27,385 --> 00:27:31,455 Let me see it. 535 00:27:31,457 --> 00:27:35,559 bin Laden's gone, isn't he? 536 00:27:35,561 --> 00:27:39,095 They missed him, didn't they? 537 00:27:39,097 --> 00:27:43,368 He was here and they fucking missed him! 538 00:27:45,403 --> 00:27:47,236 A senior U.S. military official... 539 00:27:47,238 --> 00:27:49,473 tells NBC News "Despite the crushing defeat... 540 00:27:49,475 --> 00:27:51,408 "of Al Qaeda forces at Tora Bora... 541 00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:54,410 "it's believed now that Osama bin Laden has slipped... 542 00:27:54,412 --> 00:27:56,947 "across the border into Pakistan, seeking refuge... 543 00:27:56,949 --> 00:27:58,515 "in a lawless no man's land... 544 00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,351 "ruled by renegade tribal warlords." 545 00:28:01,353 --> 00:28:03,253 Oh, it's official... 546 00:28:03,255 --> 00:28:06,089 this is the saddest event I've ever attended. 547 00:28:06,091 --> 00:28:08,057 I'm going back to my apartment, drink a bottle of wine... 548 00:28:08,059 --> 00:28:09,325 and put my head in the oven. 549 00:28:09,327 --> 00:28:11,128 Okay, but before you do that... 550 00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:14,096 I really want you to meet the guy I was telling you about. 551 00:28:14,098 --> 00:28:16,065 Oh! He just walked in! 552 00:28:16,067 --> 00:28:18,067 Forget the wine, I'll kill myself now. 553 00:28:18,069 --> 00:28:22,371 No, not him... him. I'll introduce you. 554 00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:23,506 Pam, please don't. 555 00:28:23,508 --> 00:28:26,409 - Warren! Hey! - Oh, hi. 556 00:28:26,411 --> 00:28:28,211 Glad you could make it, come on over. 557 00:28:28,213 --> 00:28:31,582 Warren, this is a good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr. 558 00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:33,449 Lisa, this is Warren Strobel, he's a journalist... 559 00:28:33,451 --> 00:28:35,121 and I'm gonna get another drink. 560 00:28:37,355 --> 00:28:39,022 Hi, uh, Lisa? 561 00:28:39,024 --> 00:28:40,457 - Yeah. - Yeah, nice to meet you. 562 00:28:40,459 --> 00:28:42,128 - Hi. - Uh... 563 00:28:43,461 --> 00:28:46,463 Did you ever make it into your apartment? 564 00:28:46,465 --> 00:28:50,967 Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry. 565 00:28:50,969 --> 00:28:54,406 - Yeah, I made it in okay. - Good. Good. 566 00:28:56,141 --> 00:28:58,274 So, you're a journalist? 567 00:28:58,276 --> 00:29:01,143 Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder. 568 00:29:01,145 --> 00:29:03,947 Oh, is that a magazine or a newspaper? 569 00:29:03,949 --> 00:29:09,052 It's actually a consortium of 31 newspapers, actually. 570 00:29:09,054 --> 00:29:10,586 Well, my stories go out to all of our newspapers... 571 00:29:10,588 --> 00:29:14,091 and each one has the option to publish or not. 572 00:29:14,093 --> 00:29:17,127 Oh, okay. I've always wondered how that worked. 573 00:29:17,129 --> 00:29:18,430 Yeah. 574 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,669 Hey, I got married when I was 22. 575 00:29:25,671 --> 00:29:29,339 And we're only recently separated, so... 576 00:29:29,341 --> 00:29:31,941 This is a little awkward for me. 577 00:29:31,943 --> 00:29:33,310 It's okay. 578 00:29:33,312 --> 00:29:35,245 I'm a little out of practice. 579 00:29:35,247 --> 00:29:39,082 Why don't you start by asking me a question? 580 00:29:39,084 --> 00:29:41,854 Sure, yeah. 581 00:29:43,655 --> 00:29:45,924 Are you a Republican or a Democrat? 582 00:29:47,426 --> 00:29:49,258 Try again. 583 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:52,295 Yeah, of course, she wants you to call her. 584 00:29:52,297 --> 00:29:54,031 She gave you her card. 585 00:29:54,033 --> 00:29:56,166 No, maybe she's just trying to gin up business. 586 00:29:56,168 --> 00:29:58,669 At a singles mixer on Valentine's Day? 587 00:29:58,671 --> 00:30:00,938 What? So, call her? I should call her? 588 00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:02,973 What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle. 589 00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:04,941 There's nothing a woman in her 30s likes more... 590 00:30:04,943 --> 00:30:07,177 than a guy who takes his time. 591 00:30:07,179 --> 00:30:09,012 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine. 592 00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:11,480 It's just that I'm getting a little tired... 593 00:30:11,482 --> 00:30:13,417 of picking up your paper every morning... 594 00:30:13,419 --> 00:30:15,384 and seeing that you're not running our stories. 595 00:30:15,386 --> 00:30:17,219 I mean, last time I looked... 596 00:30:17,221 --> 00:30:21,057 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right? 597 00:30:21,059 --> 00:30:24,961 The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper.. 598 00:30:24,963 --> 00:30:26,697 if you're not going to run Knight Ridder stories. 599 00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:28,732 John, we've been through this already. 600 00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:30,434 Your stories don't fit... 601 00:30:30,436 --> 00:30:33,269 in with what we're doing over here right now. 602 00:30:33,271 --> 00:30:35,371 Don't fit? Don't fit with what? The truth? 603 00:30:35,373 --> 00:30:37,274 What's the matter, Arthur... 604 00:30:37,276 --> 00:30:39,008 the truth doesn't sell papers anymore? 605 00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:40,476 And today, for the first time... 606 00:30:40,478 --> 00:30:42,278 the administration provided... 607 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,381 details for what it has always insisted was a connection... 608 00:30:45,383 --> 00:30:48,150 between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. 609 00:30:48,152 --> 00:30:49,719 How strong is that case? 610 00:30:49,721 --> 00:30:52,022 Iraqi president Saddam Hussein says... 611 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:54,992 he does not have any illegal weapons of mass destruction... 612 00:30:54,994 --> 00:30:58,195 and accused the United States of using weapons... 613 00:30:58,197 --> 00:31:00,730 as a pretext to start a war. 614 00:31:00,732 --> 00:31:05,034 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book? 615 00:31:05,036 --> 00:31:08,438 The movie was about 80% accurate and 20% bullshit... 616 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,411 which I guess by Hollywood standards is an accomplishment. 617 00:31:14,013 --> 00:31:16,679 What inspired you to write the book? 618 00:31:16,681 --> 00:31:19,082 Being shot at by the North Vietnamese army. 619 00:31:19,084 --> 00:31:21,284 What was the biggest difference between experiencing... 620 00:31:21,286 --> 00:31:25,589 the Battle of Ia Drang in person versus watching it in a theater? 621 00:31:25,591 --> 00:31:27,493 The popcorn in Ia Drang was saltier. 622 00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:30,427 Last question. 623 00:31:30,429 --> 00:31:32,528 Can you draw any comparisons between Vietnam... 624 00:31:32,530 --> 00:31:35,131 and what's happening today in Afghanistan? 625 00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:38,267 It's very different, but I think it is appropriate... 626 00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:42,272 that before we start dropping bombs, we think long and hard... 627 00:31:42,274 --> 00:31:45,042 about the greatest lesson we got from Vietnam. 628 00:31:45,044 --> 00:31:46,676 Which is? 629 00:31:46,678 --> 00:31:51,247 When the government fucks up, the soldiers pay the price. 630 00:31:51,249 --> 00:31:54,316 To what do I owe this unexpected visit? 631 00:31:54,318 --> 00:31:56,652 Well, I was hoping I'd get an autograph... 632 00:31:56,654 --> 00:31:59,255 from the world's most famous war correspondent. 633 00:31:59,257 --> 00:32:03,259 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story. 634 00:32:03,261 --> 00:32:06,463 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either. 635 00:32:06,465 --> 00:32:08,832 How do you like the job at State? 636 00:32:08,834 --> 00:32:10,467 I love working for General Powell... 637 00:32:10,469 --> 00:32:12,134 and I hate working for Uncle Sam. 638 00:32:12,136 --> 00:32:13,637 You miss reporting? 639 00:32:13,639 --> 00:32:15,471 After 42 years, I thought... 640 00:32:15,473 --> 00:32:17,274 I should take some time away from it. 641 00:32:17,276 --> 00:32:20,744 So, I went to work at the State Department on September 10th... 642 00:32:20,746 --> 00:32:23,112 and the next day the biggest story of my life broke. 643 00:32:23,114 --> 00:32:25,782 I'd say there's a little bit of a tug. 644 00:32:25,784 --> 00:32:29,518 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here. 645 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,588 To make me envious? 646 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:34,424 To make you an offer. 647 00:32:34,426 --> 00:32:37,726 If he gets weapons of mass destruction, Jerry. 648 00:32:37,728 --> 00:32:39,795 What does that mean for the world? 649 00:32:39,797 --> 00:32:41,531 What does that mean for the Middle East? 650 00:32:41,533 --> 00:32:43,499 - Can you turn it down? - I'm trying to watch the news. 651 00:32:43,501 --> 00:32:45,768 Stop calling it that. 652 00:32:45,770 --> 00:32:47,272 Hey, son. 653 00:32:52,311 --> 00:32:54,844 Adam, what's the matter? 654 00:32:54,846 --> 00:32:57,416 I met with a recruiter. 655 00:33:02,121 --> 00:33:04,390 A lot of people are gonna die, Jerry. 656 00:33:08,392 --> 00:33:10,127 You know once you sign up... 657 00:33:10,129 --> 00:33:11,727 there's no changing your mind, right? 658 00:33:11,729 --> 00:33:13,229 I know. 659 00:33:13,231 --> 00:33:14,864 What do you know? You're just a kid. 660 00:33:14,866 --> 00:33:17,367 Whose country was attacked. 661 00:33:17,369 --> 00:33:19,636 Adam, I know you want to do what you think is right... 662 00:33:19,638 --> 00:33:22,205 but war is not a video game. 663 00:33:22,207 --> 00:33:24,341 You have no idea what you're getting into. 664 00:33:24,343 --> 00:33:26,711 I know exactly what I'm getting into. 665 00:33:30,915 --> 00:33:33,149 Here. 666 00:33:33,151 --> 00:33:37,720 Show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 667 00:33:37,722 --> 00:33:40,422 Show me. 668 00:33:40,424 --> 00:33:42,258 They're gonna send you halfway around the world to fight... 669 00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:44,794 people you didn't even know existed a year ago. 670 00:33:44,796 --> 00:33:47,496 If you know what you're getting into... 671 00:33:47,498 --> 00:33:51,534 show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 672 00:33:51,536 --> 00:33:54,603 Did anyone ever shove a map in Dad's face... 673 00:33:54,605 --> 00:33:57,309 and ask him to find Vietnam? 674 00:34:03,614 --> 00:34:07,350 We now know that Saddam has resumed... 675 00:34:07,352 --> 00:34:09,886 his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. 676 00:34:09,888 --> 00:34:12,688 Among other sources, we've gotten this from firsthand... 677 00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:14,457 testimony from defectors. 678 00:34:14,459 --> 00:34:17,259 Many of us are convinced that Saddam Hussein... 679 00:34:17,261 --> 00:34:19,962 will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon. 680 00:34:19,964 --> 00:34:23,799 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein... 681 00:34:23,801 --> 00:34:25,701 now has weapons of mass destruction. 682 00:34:25,703 --> 00:34:28,605 They're dialing up the rhetoric on Iraq. 683 00:34:28,607 --> 00:34:30,710 Let's see if we can nail them down, okay? 684 00:34:32,777 --> 00:34:35,545 Twenty bucks, whoever gets the best quote. 685 00:34:35,547 --> 00:34:38,480 No, no, no, you're such a child. 686 00:34:38,482 --> 00:34:39,616 You're such a pussy. 687 00:34:39,618 --> 00:34:41,217 I'm not taking your money. 688 00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:42,719 You get all bent out of shape when you lose. 689 00:34:42,721 --> 00:34:44,487 I don't care. I'm just the same when I win or lose. 690 00:34:44,489 --> 00:34:46,255 I'm not... it's not a bet, all right, fine. 691 00:34:46,257 --> 00:34:47,857 Warren Strobel for Senator Biden, please. 692 00:34:47,859 --> 00:34:49,692 Son of a bitch. 693 00:34:49,694 --> 00:34:52,362 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go... 694 00:34:52,364 --> 00:34:53,529 "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay... 695 00:34:53,531 --> 00:34:54,998 "for at least five years." 696 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,667 I got Michael O'Hanlon at Brookings saying... 697 00:34:57,669 --> 00:35:00,306 "You definitely cannot count on it being a cakewalk." 698 00:35:01,672 --> 00:35:03,672 We gotta hit it harder than that. 699 00:35:03,674 --> 00:35:05,908 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N... 700 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:07,611 that says, "There's widespread concern... 701 00:35:07,613 --> 00:35:09,779 "that this will destabilize the whole Middle East." 702 00:35:09,781 --> 00:35:12,348 Let me see what you have. 703 00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:13,616 Well, wait, I got... I got... 704 00:35:13,618 --> 00:35:15,585 Just give it to me, give, give, give. 705 00:35:15,587 --> 00:35:16,752 Okay. 706 00:35:16,754 --> 00:35:18,788 All right. 707 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:22,460 Let's see here... all right. 708 00:36:08,873 --> 00:36:10,940 You guys are smart. 709 00:36:10,942 --> 00:36:13,509 You know what's unfolding here. 710 00:36:13,511 --> 00:36:17,515 Our readers need to know what we've learned. 711 00:36:21,085 --> 00:36:24,721 "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq... 712 00:36:24,723 --> 00:36:27,891 "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy... 713 00:36:27,893 --> 00:36:31,761 "to a nation that has never known it. In the worst case... 714 00:36:31,763 --> 00:36:35,732 "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic... 715 00:36:35,734 --> 00:36:38,567 "groups to break off into their own mini-states... 716 00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:41,603 "trapping American combat forces in the middle... 717 00:36:41,605 --> 00:36:44,276 "of a bloody civil war for decades." 718 00:36:46,777 --> 00:36:48,745 Boss man's got balls. 719 00:36:48,747 --> 00:36:50,815 Yeah. 720 00:37:16,107 --> 00:37:25,047 Shit. 721 00:37:25,049 --> 00:37:26,382 Were those for me? 722 00:37:26,384 --> 00:37:29,886 No. Yes. 723 00:37:29,888 --> 00:37:34,556 But I thought it might be a little, I don't know... 724 00:37:34,558 --> 00:37:36,658 a little too soon to be giving each other gifts. 725 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,594 It would've been all right. 726 00:37:38,596 --> 00:37:39,862 Okay. 727 00:37:39,864 --> 00:37:42,498 Well, I think they landed on my car... 728 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,533 so if you want to grab them on the way to dinner... 729 00:37:44,535 --> 00:37:46,603 maybe we can do that? 730 00:37:46,605 --> 00:37:48,474 - Great. - Great. 731 00:37:51,609 --> 00:37:54,777 Okay, so what was the most embarrassing thing... 732 00:37:54,779 --> 00:37:56,348 you did to prepare for tonight? 733 00:37:59,116 --> 00:38:01,083 All right. 734 00:38:01,085 --> 00:38:03,585 I will admit, that to prepare for tonight... 735 00:38:03,587 --> 00:38:05,721 I did kind of a cram session on Iraq... 736 00:38:05,723 --> 00:38:08,725 and the history of the Muslim world. 737 00:38:08,727 --> 00:38:09,859 Really? 738 00:38:09,861 --> 00:38:11,627 Yes. 739 00:38:11,629 --> 00:38:14,129 Now I know that 1400 years ago, after the death of Muhammad... 740 00:38:14,131 --> 00:38:16,498 Muslims fought over who was to be his rightful heir... 741 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,167 and that caused a split into two factions... 742 00:38:18,169 --> 00:38:19,569 the Sunnis and the Shiites. 743 00:38:19,571 --> 00:38:21,136 And they've been at war ever since. 744 00:38:21,138 --> 00:38:23,172 Then, at the end of World War I, the British and the French... 745 00:38:23,174 --> 00:38:26,141 arbitrarily divided the Arab world into countries... 746 00:38:26,143 --> 00:38:28,143 putting the Sunni majority in charge. 747 00:38:28,145 --> 00:38:32,882 But the country that became Iraq is made up of only 20% Sunni. 748 00:38:32,884 --> 00:38:37,554 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules... 749 00:38:37,556 --> 00:38:38,987 the majority Shiite population... 750 00:38:38,989 --> 00:38:42,558 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq. 751 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,527 But if Saddam Hussein were removed, it could possibly... 752 00:38:45,529 --> 00:38:48,096 reignite that 1400-year-old sectarian war. 753 00:38:48,098 --> 00:38:50,199 Now, after reading your stories... 754 00:38:50,201 --> 00:38:53,870 I know that Iran is the top sponsor of terror, not Iraq. 755 00:38:53,872 --> 00:38:57,507 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist... 756 00:38:57,509 --> 00:38:59,509 who wants to replace Saddam Hussein. 757 00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,210 That the neo-cons in the Bush Administration... 758 00:39:01,212 --> 00:39:02,846 are pushing for an invasion. 759 00:39:02,848 --> 00:39:06,482 And you are quickly becoming my favorite writer. 760 00:39:06,484 --> 00:39:08,053 Wow. 761 00:39:12,122 --> 00:39:16,725 Um... I guess it's my turn. 762 00:39:16,727 --> 00:39:17,826 Give it to me. 763 00:39:17,828 --> 00:39:20,897 Okay, I will admit that... 764 00:39:20,899 --> 00:39:24,533 This is a little embarrassing. 765 00:39:24,535 --> 00:39:29,571 I asked my ex-wife to watch my two sons tonight. 766 00:39:29,573 --> 00:39:31,140 Why is that embarrassing? 767 00:39:31,142 --> 00:39:33,076 Because a babysitter would expect me home... 768 00:39:33,078 --> 00:39:37,013 at the end of the evening and... 769 00:39:37,015 --> 00:39:40,083 Should we get the check? 770 00:39:40,085 --> 00:39:43,553 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not! 771 00:39:43,555 --> 00:39:46,656 Actually yes, it is a matter of life and death! 772 00:39:46,658 --> 00:39:50,292 We're talking about going to fucking war! 773 00:39:50,294 --> 00:39:52,730 Hello? 774 00:39:54,098 --> 00:39:56,866 I'm guessing that was a no comment? 775 00:39:56,868 --> 00:39:59,067 What are you grinning about? 776 00:39:59,069 --> 00:40:00,770 What? I'm not grinning. 777 00:40:00,772 --> 00:40:03,540 - You're grinning. - I'm not grinning. 778 00:40:03,542 --> 00:40:04,908 - I'm not... - What have you got over there? 779 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:06,643 Relax! Don't worry about it. 780 00:40:06,645 --> 00:40:08,143 Oh my God, she could do my taxes. 781 00:40:08,145 --> 00:40:10,045 All right, relax. 782 00:40:10,047 --> 00:40:12,685 - Strobel, Knight Ridder. - Of course. 783 00:40:15,687 --> 00:40:17,819 Okay. 784 00:40:17,821 --> 00:40:20,123 All right, I'll be right there. 785 00:40:20,125 --> 00:40:22,094 Let's go, this could be something. 786 00:40:26,997 --> 00:40:29,065 So, how does this work? 787 00:40:29,067 --> 00:40:32,171 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking? 788 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:35,804 Why don't you just begin... 789 00:40:35,806 --> 00:40:37,205 and we'll ask the questions when we have them. 790 00:40:37,207 --> 00:40:39,741 If it's off the record, I have to say so, right? 791 00:40:39,743 --> 00:40:42,178 Do you want it to be off the record? 792 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:45,848 I want people to know what I know, but not who I am. 793 00:40:45,850 --> 00:40:47,616 It'll be background. 794 00:40:47,618 --> 00:40:50,055 You'll be referred to as a U.S. official. 795 00:40:56,962 --> 00:40:59,732 So, whatever you feel comfortable telling us. 796 00:41:03,134 --> 00:41:06,335 I believe your prediction about what could and will happen... 797 00:41:06,337 --> 00:41:08,904 if we go to war is spot on. 798 00:41:08,906 --> 00:41:11,641 And we're a lot closer than you think. 799 00:41:11,643 --> 00:41:13,208 How close? 800 00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:16,279 A secret war planning group with a parallel intelligence... 801 00:41:16,281 --> 00:41:18,880 operation has been set up to bypass... 802 00:41:18,882 --> 00:41:21,150 the rest of the intelligence community. 803 00:41:21,152 --> 00:41:22,685 How do you know this? 804 00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,120 They meet in the building where I work. 805 00:41:25,122 --> 00:41:27,123 And which building is that? 806 00:41:27,125 --> 00:41:31,861 The one with the five sides. 807 00:41:31,863 --> 00:41:32,962 But you're not a part of that unit? 808 00:41:32,964 --> 00:41:34,196 No. 809 00:41:34,198 --> 00:41:35,832 So, how do you know about this? 810 00:41:35,834 --> 00:41:38,100 My desk is across the hall. 811 00:41:38,102 --> 00:41:40,402 What office do you work for? 812 00:41:40,404 --> 00:41:45,007 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that. 813 00:41:45,009 --> 00:41:47,009 You're an analyst? 814 00:41:47,011 --> 00:41:51,047 Yes... but you can't disclose that, either. 815 00:41:51,049 --> 00:41:53,315 I'm speaking to you because I'm an American citizen... 816 00:41:53,317 --> 00:41:55,917 and I don't like what these people are doing. 817 00:41:55,919 --> 00:41:59,288 Half a dozen men, most of whom have never served... 818 00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:01,424 in the military are making decisions... 819 00:42:01,426 --> 00:42:04,893 based on shoddy intelligence, and those decisions... 820 00:42:04,895 --> 00:42:07,362 will impact our men and women in uniform. 821 00:42:07,364 --> 00:42:14,670 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent. 822 00:42:14,672 --> 00:42:19,975 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that? 823 00:42:19,977 --> 00:42:23,078 They've designed a process that doesn't conform... 824 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,248 to any basic tenet of intelligence gathering. 825 00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:27,750 In what way? 826 00:42:27,752 --> 00:42:29,951 A decision is made, then the intelligence... 827 00:42:29,953 --> 00:42:33,388 is sought to support that decision. 828 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:34,991 How do you know this? 829 00:42:34,993 --> 00:42:37,993 They have no interest in Arabic speakers. 830 00:42:37,995 --> 00:42:40,797 Israelis come in without passes... 831 00:42:40,799 --> 00:42:43,966 without even being entered into a security log. 832 00:42:43,968 --> 00:42:47,103 And for years the government has been funding a group... 833 00:42:47,105 --> 00:42:51,473 of exiled dissidents called the Iraqi National Congress. 834 00:42:51,475 --> 00:42:53,710 Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know. 835 00:42:53,712 --> 00:42:56,745 Who they want to install as the new leader of Iraq. 836 00:42:56,747 --> 00:42:58,815 Yeah, we've been trying to get a meeting with him. 837 00:42:58,817 --> 00:43:01,085 Do you know who set up this operation? 838 00:43:04,955 --> 00:43:07,890 Donald Rumsfeld. 839 00:43:07,892 --> 00:43:09,958 Is there any evidence to indicate that Iraq... 840 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,429 has attempted to or is willing to supply terrorists... 841 00:43:14,431 --> 00:43:16,732 with weapons of mass destruction? 842 00:43:16,734 --> 00:43:21,203 The reports that say that something hasn't happened... 843 00:43:21,205 --> 00:43:24,841 are always interesting to me because as we know... 844 00:43:24,843 --> 00:43:29,078 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. 845 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,413 We also know there are known unknowns. 846 00:43:31,415 --> 00:43:34,951 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. 847 00:43:34,953 --> 00:43:37,487 But there are also unknown unknowns. 848 00:43:37,489 --> 00:43:39,321 The one's we don't know we don't know. 849 00:43:39,323 --> 00:43:41,891 We're working on a theory that the administration... 850 00:43:41,893 --> 00:43:43,391 has already decided to go to war... 851 00:43:43,393 --> 00:43:45,328 and is now focused on how to justify it. 852 00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:47,196 It's not a theory. 853 00:43:47,198 --> 00:43:49,766 We've also been told by a number of individuals that... 854 00:43:49,768 --> 00:43:52,835 Rumsfeld's the one spearheading this intelligence gathering. 855 00:43:52,837 --> 00:43:55,237 I wouldn't exactly call it intelligence gathering. 856 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,272 It's more like intelligence cherry picking. 857 00:43:57,274 --> 00:43:58,940 And if they don't find any cherries... 858 00:43:58,942 --> 00:44:00,509 they just grab a piece of shit... 859 00:44:00,511 --> 00:44:03,879 and they paint it red, and they stick it in a Shirley Temple. 860 00:44:03,881 --> 00:44:07,250 You seem irritated. 861 00:44:07,252 --> 00:44:09,919 I'm out there looking for weapons that might not exist... 862 00:44:09,921 --> 00:44:12,487 to justify a war that might not be wise. 863 00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:17,025 And have you found any evidence of WMD? 864 00:44:17,027 --> 00:44:18,895 No, sir. 865 00:44:18,897 --> 00:44:21,029 But Saddam is looking to acquire nukes, right? 866 00:44:21,031 --> 00:44:23,966 Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck Jennifer Lopez, but I have... 867 00:44:23,968 --> 00:44:26,234 a sinking feeling that neither of those things is gonna happen. 868 00:44:26,236 --> 00:44:31,040 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote? 869 00:44:31,042 --> 00:44:32,808 Sure. 870 00:44:32,810 --> 00:44:34,976 Have you found anything to support the administration's... 871 00:44:34,978 --> 00:44:38,446 theory that Saddam is close to or has acquired nuclear weapons? 872 00:44:38,448 --> 00:44:40,016 We've searched every cave... 873 00:44:40,018 --> 00:44:42,451 and looked up every camel's ass in Iraq. 874 00:44:42,453 --> 00:44:47,292 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way." 875 00:44:49,194 --> 00:44:51,027 Might have to clean that up a bit. 876 00:44:51,029 --> 00:44:54,129 Quite colorful, though. 877 00:44:54,131 --> 00:44:55,263 Uh, honey, I think someone... 878 00:44:55,265 --> 00:44:56,966 is stealing our New York Times. 879 00:44:56,968 --> 00:44:58,301 I canceled it. 880 00:44:58,303 --> 00:45:00,169 Why would you do that? 881 00:45:00,171 --> 00:45:01,437 It's propaganda. 882 00:45:01,439 --> 00:45:03,239 I need that for my work. 883 00:45:03,241 --> 00:45:05,607 It's packaging press releases from the White House... 884 00:45:05,609 --> 00:45:07,609 the State Department, and the Pentagon. 885 00:45:07,611 --> 00:45:09,514 Sorry, that's not a real newspaper. 886 00:45:16,421 --> 00:45:18,987 How was your day? 887 00:45:18,989 --> 00:45:21,257 Warren and I met with some gentleman... 888 00:45:21,259 --> 00:45:23,592 from the intelligence community who confirmed that... 889 00:45:23,594 --> 00:45:25,627 there's no real evidence to support... 890 00:45:25,629 --> 00:45:28,966 the administration's claim on WMD. 891 00:45:31,435 --> 00:45:34,203 What have I been telling you? 892 00:45:34,205 --> 00:45:38,477 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source. 893 00:45:43,448 --> 00:45:46,449 You know, this is what they do. They lie. 894 00:45:46,451 --> 00:45:49,421 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable. 895 00:45:52,656 --> 00:45:55,324 I hope I'm wrong. I really, really do. 896 00:45:55,326 --> 00:45:58,460 But the Bush Administration, they don't care about the truth. 897 00:45:58,462 --> 00:46:01,196 They don't even respond to your articles. 898 00:46:01,198 --> 00:46:04,299 If they want a war, they're gonna get one. 899 00:46:04,301 --> 00:46:07,002 And there's nothing that you or the first amendment... 900 00:46:07,004 --> 00:46:08,439 is gonna do to stop them. 901 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,222 Extra, extra, read all about it. 902 00:46:30,428 --> 00:46:34,297 "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands... 903 00:46:34,299 --> 00:46:37,500 "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American... 904 00:46:37,502 --> 00:46:39,534 "officials believe were intended as components... 905 00:46:39,536 --> 00:46:43,471 "of centrifuges to enrich uranium." 906 00:46:43,473 --> 00:46:45,241 Well, one thing's for sure. 907 00:46:45,243 --> 00:46:46,676 What's that? 908 00:46:46,678 --> 00:46:49,181 We can't both be right. 909 00:46:52,683 --> 00:46:54,016 Who're you calling? 910 00:46:54,018 --> 00:46:55,951 Loose Nukes. 911 00:46:55,953 --> 00:46:57,520 If she wouldn't talk to you about going into Iraq... 912 00:46:57,522 --> 00:47:00,121 what makes you think she's gonna go on the record on WMD? 913 00:47:00,123 --> 00:47:03,127 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son. 914 00:47:07,198 --> 00:47:08,667 Landay. 915 00:47:11,368 --> 00:47:14,469 - It's Joe Galloway. - Wow. 916 00:47:14,471 --> 00:47:16,605 Man even walks like he has a Bronze Star. 917 00:47:16,607 --> 00:47:17,973 Hello. 918 00:47:17,975 --> 00:47:20,275 Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay. 919 00:47:20,277 --> 00:47:21,576 Hello, Jonathan. 920 00:47:21,578 --> 00:47:27,382 Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh? 921 00:47:27,384 --> 00:47:29,417 You're calling me to chat about the weather? 922 00:47:29,419 --> 00:47:34,056 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD. 923 00:47:34,058 --> 00:47:35,623 It'll be deep, deep background. 924 00:47:35,625 --> 00:47:37,292 Goodbye, Jonathan. 925 00:47:37,294 --> 00:47:40,228 No wait, don't hang up. 926 00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:44,199 That Charm Offensive... that's formidable. 927 00:47:44,201 --> 00:47:48,471 Listen, we need you here. 928 00:47:48,473 --> 00:47:51,172 You've developed sources over the years that have access... 929 00:47:51,174 --> 00:47:54,210 that Landay and Strobel just can't get. 930 00:47:54,212 --> 00:47:55,611 I'll make it easy on you. 931 00:47:55,613 --> 00:47:57,413 I'll give you a column... 932 00:47:57,415 --> 00:48:01,449 and your name doesn't have to appear on anything else. 933 00:48:01,451 --> 00:48:04,286 Whatever else you want to write on the side, you can... 934 00:48:04,288 --> 00:48:06,554 and of course, there won't be any glory, but... 935 00:48:06,556 --> 00:48:08,727 Glory's for young men. 936 00:48:11,361 --> 00:48:13,462 Let me percolate on it. 937 00:48:13,464 --> 00:48:15,531 Let me turn to the issue of Iraq. 938 00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:18,567 You have said that it poses... 939 00:48:18,569 --> 00:48:20,803 a mortal threat to the United States. 940 00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:24,406 How? Define "mortal threat." 941 00:48:24,408 --> 00:48:29,210 Well, this'll take some time, but it's important for us... 942 00:48:29,212 --> 00:48:31,112 as I mentioned earlier... 943 00:48:31,114 --> 00:48:34,049 to remember that the world has changed, that prior to... 944 00:48:34,051 --> 00:48:35,784 I'd forgotten the world had changed. 945 00:48:35,786 --> 00:48:37,719 So did I. I'm so happy he mentioned that. 946 00:48:37,721 --> 00:48:41,357 What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe... 947 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:43,792 would enhance his nuclear development program? 948 00:48:43,794 --> 00:48:45,828 Well, in the nuclear weapons arena... 949 00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:48,630 you've got specifically aluminum tubes. 950 00:48:48,632 --> 00:48:50,399 There's a story in The New York Times this morning... 951 00:48:50,401 --> 00:48:53,502 this is and I want to attribute to The Times. 952 00:48:53,504 --> 00:48:55,437 I don't want to talk about, obviously... 953 00:48:55,439 --> 00:48:58,607 specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that... 954 00:48:58,609 --> 00:49:03,645 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been... 955 00:49:03,647 --> 00:49:06,449 able to intercept and prevent him from acquiring... 956 00:49:06,451 --> 00:49:08,150 through this particular channel... 957 00:49:08,152 --> 00:49:10,286 the kinds of tubes that are necessary... 958 00:49:10,288 --> 00:49:12,087 to build a centrifuge. 959 00:49:12,089 --> 00:49:15,123 And the centrifuge is required to take low-grade uranium... 960 00:49:15,125 --> 00:49:18,560 and enhance it into highly enriched uranium... 961 00:49:18,562 --> 00:49:21,330 which is what you have to have in order to build a bomb. 962 00:49:21,332 --> 00:49:23,866 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times. 963 00:49:23,868 --> 00:49:27,169 Avoids the pesky nuisance of being arrested... 964 00:49:27,171 --> 00:49:28,804 for revealing classified information. 965 00:49:28,806 --> 00:49:30,839 One can only wonder how Judy Miller and Michael Gordon... 966 00:49:30,841 --> 00:49:31,873 got that information. 967 00:49:31,875 --> 00:49:35,578 Does it bother you, bug you... 968 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:38,714 that you have not captured Osama bin Laden in over a year? 969 00:49:38,716 --> 00:49:45,453 I'd like to see him on television in handcuffs... 970 00:49:45,455 --> 00:49:47,489 if I can put it into those terms. 971 00:49:47,491 --> 00:49:49,458 I think all of us would. 972 00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:53,228 But I don't lay awake at night concerned about that. 973 00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:55,563 There's one school of thought that says he's already dead. 974 00:49:55,565 --> 00:49:57,165 We haven't heard anything of him in many months. 975 00:49:57,167 --> 00:49:58,533 What do you think? 976 00:49:58,535 --> 00:49:59,634 I don't know, I really don't know. 977 00:49:59,636 --> 00:50:01,569 I can argue it round or flat. 978 00:50:01,571 --> 00:50:04,172 I didn't know we were still debating the shape of the earth. 979 00:50:04,174 --> 00:50:06,143 I've got sources on both sides. 980 00:50:08,212 --> 00:50:10,645 But the U.S. military would be enormously effective... 981 00:50:10,647 --> 00:50:12,515 in this circumstance. 982 00:50:12,517 --> 00:50:15,451 And I don't think it would be that tough a fight. 983 00:50:15,453 --> 00:50:17,386 That is, I don't think there's any question... 984 00:50:17,388 --> 00:50:19,221 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective. 985 00:50:19,223 --> 00:50:21,656 Landay. 986 00:50:21,658 --> 00:50:24,292 Yeah? 987 00:50:24,294 --> 00:50:26,630 We are right, aren't we? 988 00:50:28,866 --> 00:50:30,835 Everybody, listen up. 989 00:50:34,839 --> 00:50:36,808 We're not NBC. 990 00:50:38,276 --> 00:50:40,341 We're not ABC. We're not CBS. 991 00:50:40,343 --> 00:50:43,347 We're not FOX. We're not CNN. 992 00:50:44,482 --> 00:50:46,582 We're not The New York Times. 993 00:50:46,584 --> 00:50:48,553 We're not The Washington Post. 994 00:50:50,453 --> 00:50:52,423 We are Knight Ridder. 995 00:50:56,527 --> 00:51:02,598 We have readers who live in towns with military bases. 996 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,335 Fort Benning, Fort Bragg, Fort Jackson... 997 00:51:06,337 --> 00:51:12,674 and over 40 other military bases throughout this country. 998 00:51:12,676 --> 00:51:17,446 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers... 999 00:51:17,448 --> 00:51:20,518 for the Bush administration, let them. 1000 00:51:22,786 --> 00:51:26,658 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war. 1001 00:51:28,725 --> 00:51:33,198 We write for people whose kids get sent to war. 1002 00:51:35,866 --> 00:51:38,333 So, when the government says something... 1003 00:51:38,335 --> 00:51:40,839 you only have one question to ask. 1004 00:51:44,341 --> 00:51:46,277 Is it true? 1005 00:51:52,450 --> 00:51:54,386 I'm through percolating. 1006 00:51:57,488 --> 00:51:59,420 Let's get to work. 1007 00:51:59,422 --> 00:52:01,690 Administration officials spanned out on the Sunday talk shows... 1008 00:52:01,692 --> 00:52:03,926 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq. 1009 00:52:03,928 --> 00:52:06,895 Who else is involved in The Office of Special Planning? 1010 00:52:06,897 --> 00:52:10,598 Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others. 1011 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,967 Instead of listening to people who have spent their careers... 1012 00:52:12,969 --> 00:52:16,804 evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel... 1013 00:52:16,806 --> 00:52:18,707 from unreliable sources and taking it... 1014 00:52:18,709 --> 00:52:20,509 directly to the White House. 1015 00:52:20,511 --> 00:52:22,745 George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence... 1016 00:52:22,747 --> 00:52:25,346 told Senators, he could not rule out cooperation... 1017 00:52:25,348 --> 00:52:26,617 between Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. 1018 00:52:29,386 --> 00:52:31,587 I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes. 1019 00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:33,621 They're too small to be used for enriching uranium. 1020 00:52:33,623 --> 00:52:35,024 What does that mean? 1021 00:52:35,026 --> 00:52:36,792 They can't be used for a nuclear bomb. 1022 00:52:36,794 --> 00:52:38,594 The President of the United States... 1023 00:52:38,596 --> 00:52:39,928 said we're not going to permit nations to develop... 1024 00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:41,897 weapons of mass destruction... 1025 00:52:41,899 --> 00:52:43,699 as they're gonna supply those weapons to a network... 1026 00:52:43,701 --> 00:52:45,366 of terrorism that could attack the United States. 1027 00:52:45,368 --> 00:52:47,870 Cheney is trying to shut out Powell. 1028 00:52:47,872 --> 00:52:49,471 Where'd you get this stuff? 1029 00:52:49,473 --> 00:52:51,339 Old friend. 1030 00:52:51,341 --> 00:52:53,375 We're starting to see a consensus from within... 1031 00:52:53,377 --> 00:52:55,377 the administration for the removal of Saddam Hussein. 1032 00:52:55,379 --> 00:52:57,379 The administration has pointed... 1033 00:52:57,381 --> 00:52:59,681 to a secret meeting in Prague between Iraqi intelligence... 1034 00:52:59,683 --> 00:53:01,449 and 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta. 1035 00:53:01,451 --> 00:53:03,419 Bush administration is pressing the United Nations... 1036 00:53:03,421 --> 00:53:05,554 Security Council for a resolution... 1037 00:53:05,556 --> 00:53:07,455 to put pressure on Iraq. 1038 00:53:07,457 --> 00:53:09,424 President Bush will address the United Nations today... 1039 00:53:09,426 --> 00:53:11,759 in hopes of putting together a multi-national coalition... 1040 00:53:11,761 --> 00:53:13,594 to disarm Saddam Hussein. 1041 00:53:13,596 --> 00:53:15,698 The White House is lobbying Congress to authorize... 1042 00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,799 the use of force in Iraq. 1043 00:53:17,801 --> 00:53:19,868 The minute these guys get their hands on anything... 1044 00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:21,536 remotely resembling evidence... 1045 00:53:21,538 --> 00:53:23,471 they leak it to The New York Times. 1046 00:53:23,473 --> 00:53:24,873 Now, I understand the position you're in... 1047 00:53:24,875 --> 00:53:27,509 but please don't hang up on me. 1048 00:53:27,511 --> 00:53:28,976 Okay. 1049 00:53:28,978 --> 00:53:32,547 Okay, the vice president of the United States... 1050 00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:35,984 went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein... 1051 00:53:35,986 --> 00:53:38,953 is on the threshold of developing a nuclear weapon. 1052 00:53:38,955 --> 00:53:41,556 Then he goes on national television... 1053 00:53:41,558 --> 00:53:42,790 and says the same thing. 1054 00:53:42,792 --> 00:53:46,060 Your question? 1055 00:53:46,062 --> 00:53:49,498 Ask the question. 1056 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,533 What I want to know is, is Dick Cheney ignoring... 1057 00:53:52,535 --> 00:53:55,103 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions... 1058 00:53:55,105 --> 00:53:59,074 or is he just getting bad intelligence? 1059 00:53:59,076 --> 00:54:02,681 The vice president is lying. 1060 00:54:04,881 --> 00:54:06,781 Thank you, thank you so much. 1061 00:54:06,783 --> 00:54:09,051 What? What, what, what? What'd she say? 1062 00:54:09,053 --> 00:54:10,786 He's lying. 1063 00:54:10,788 --> 00:54:12,788 - He's lying. - Cheney is lying. 1064 00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:14,989 - Cheney's lying! - Cheney's lying! 1065 00:54:14,991 --> 00:54:17,525 - He's lying! John! - He's lying! 1066 00:54:17,527 --> 00:54:19,627 John! 1067 00:54:19,629 --> 00:54:20,862 Where the hell is he? 1068 00:54:20,864 --> 00:54:22,531 Here we go. Here we go. 1069 00:54:22,533 --> 00:54:24,466 - He's lying. - He's lying. 1070 00:54:24,468 --> 00:54:26,435 Cheney's lying. 1071 00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:27,870 Where did this come from? 1072 00:54:27,872 --> 00:54:29,538 Loose Nukes. 1073 00:54:29,540 --> 00:54:31,440 Okay. 1074 00:54:31,442 --> 00:54:33,808 Now, we know what's being talk about, we got to get inside... 1075 00:54:33,810 --> 00:54:36,812 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion. 1076 00:54:36,814 --> 00:54:38,614 I may have a guy. 1077 00:54:38,616 --> 00:54:40,047 Anybody we know? 1078 00:54:40,049 --> 00:54:41,652 The Usual Suspect. 1079 00:54:52,897 --> 00:54:54,862 You didn't want to do this in a parking garage? 1080 00:54:54,864 --> 00:54:57,498 If there was one that served Pad Thai, I would. 1081 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:59,902 How's civilian life? 1082 00:54:59,904 --> 00:55:02,504 My retirement lasted about four hours. 1083 00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,205 You're with Knight Ridder? 1084 00:55:04,207 --> 00:55:06,574 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that? 1085 00:55:06,576 --> 00:55:08,076 I have my ways. 1086 00:55:08,078 --> 00:55:09,944 You been following what we're doing over there? 1087 00:55:09,946 --> 00:55:11,179 Yes, I have. 1088 00:55:11,181 --> 00:55:12,681 And? 1089 00:55:12,683 --> 00:55:14,449 You two may be singlehandedly saving... 1090 00:55:14,451 --> 00:55:17,553 the Fourth Estate from extinction. 1091 00:55:17,555 --> 00:55:20,221 Mainstream media hasn't picked up a thing we been running. 1092 00:55:20,223 --> 00:55:21,857 Should be all the confirmation you need... 1093 00:55:21,859 --> 00:55:23,094 that you're onto something. 1094 00:55:26,062 --> 00:55:28,696 What can I do for you? 1095 00:55:28,698 --> 00:55:30,732 We need some help with the higher ups. 1096 00:55:30,734 --> 00:55:31,732 How high? 1097 00:55:31,734 --> 00:55:33,469 High as you can get us. 1098 00:55:33,471 --> 00:55:35,170 You've been around a long time, Joe. 1099 00:55:35,172 --> 00:55:37,672 I doubt there's anything there that'll surprise you. 1100 00:55:37,674 --> 00:55:39,475 I was married one time to a woman who thought... 1101 00:55:39,477 --> 00:55:41,643 New Hampshire was the capital of Massachusetts. 1102 00:55:41,645 --> 00:55:44,612 There's always something you don't see coming. 1103 00:55:44,614 --> 00:55:47,949 What do you want to know? 1104 00:55:47,951 --> 00:55:51,053 Everything the administration doesn't want us to know. 1105 00:55:51,055 --> 00:55:54,459 You and I are going to be eating a lot of Pad Thai. 1106 00:55:59,497 --> 00:56:01,496 What kind of time frame are we looking at? 1107 00:56:01,498 --> 00:56:02,897 Next month, Congress is scheduled to vote... 1108 00:56:02,899 --> 00:56:04,165 on whether or not to give the president... 1109 00:56:04,167 --> 00:56:05,868 the authorization to go to war. 1110 00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:06,935 Are the votes there? 1111 00:56:06,937 --> 00:56:08,603 The administration thinks so. 1112 00:56:08,605 --> 00:56:14,009 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd... 1113 00:56:14,011 --> 00:56:17,612 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 1114 00:56:17,614 --> 00:56:21,149 The resolution that authorized the president to use military... 1115 00:56:21,151 --> 00:56:23,150 force to repel armed attacks... 1116 00:56:23,152 --> 00:56:27,589 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia. 1117 00:56:27,591 --> 00:56:31,225 A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States... 1118 00:56:31,227 --> 00:56:34,730 armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close. 1119 00:56:34,732 --> 00:56:36,931 The clerk will call the roll. 1120 00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,134 Mr. Biden, aye. 1121 00:56:39,136 --> 00:56:41,169 Mrs. Clinton, aye. 1122 00:56:41,171 --> 00:56:43,638 It was this resolution that provided the basis... 1123 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,542 for American involvement in the war in Vietnam. 1124 00:56:47,544 --> 00:56:49,877 Mr. Kerry, aye. 1125 00:56:49,879 --> 00:56:52,047 Mr. Lieberman, aye. 1126 00:56:52,049 --> 00:56:54,016 Mr. Lott, aye. 1127 00:56:54,018 --> 00:56:55,951 It was this resolution... 1128 00:56:55,953 --> 00:57:00,989 that lead to the deaths of 58,000 Americans. 1129 00:57:00,991 --> 00:57:03,324 Mr. McCain, aye. 1130 00:57:03,326 --> 00:57:05,560 Mr. McConnell, aye. 1131 00:57:05,562 --> 00:57:10,699 After all that carnage, we began to learn that in voting... 1132 00:57:10,701 --> 00:57:12,768 for the Tonkin Gulf resolution... 1133 00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:15,904 we were basing our votes on bad information. 1134 00:57:15,906 --> 00:57:18,172 And history is repeating itself. 1135 00:57:18,174 --> 00:57:20,308 Mr. Santorum, aye. 1136 00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:23,679 I urge senators to go down on the Capital Mall... 1137 00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:26,181 and look at the Vietnam Memorial. 1138 00:57:26,183 --> 00:57:29,250 Nearly every day, you will find someone at that wall... 1139 00:57:29,252 --> 00:57:31,587 weeping for a loved one. 1140 00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:33,654 Mr. Sessions, aye. 1141 00:57:33,656 --> 00:57:36,158 I will always remember the words of Senator Wayne Morse. 1142 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,627 Mr. Specter, aye. 1143 00:57:38,629 --> 00:57:40,895 He stated, "The resolution will pass and senators... 1144 00:57:40,897 --> 00:57:44,632 "who vote for it will live to regret it." 1145 00:57:44,634 --> 00:57:46,667 We got K-10, we got Dixie, we don't need another source. 1146 00:57:46,669 --> 00:57:48,270 You know we got this. 1147 00:57:48,272 --> 00:57:50,237 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense... 1148 00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:52,107 of running a shadow intelligence unit... 1149 00:57:52,109 --> 00:57:54,676 out of the Pentagon, it's nice to have a little insurance. 1150 00:57:54,678 --> 00:57:55,913 That's all I'm saying. 1151 00:57:59,984 --> 00:58:02,350 All right, let's share it with the rest of the class. 1152 00:58:02,352 --> 00:58:04,085 You want to tell them? 1153 00:58:04,087 --> 00:58:07,723 Earlier today, I was summoned to the Pentagon. 1154 00:58:07,725 --> 00:58:09,056 By whom? 1155 00:58:09,058 --> 00:58:12,127 Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick sent a message saying... 1156 00:58:12,129 --> 00:58:13,929 "All your sources are retired generals." 1157 00:58:13,931 --> 00:58:15,864 And I said, "All due respect, sir... 1158 00:58:15,866 --> 00:58:18,799 "80% of my sources are active military." 1159 00:58:18,801 --> 00:58:20,636 "Some of them are working in this building... 1160 00:58:20,638 --> 00:58:22,837 "and some of them are actually working on your staff." 1161 00:58:22,839 --> 00:58:25,806 "And hell, one or two of them might even be in this room." 1162 00:58:25,808 --> 00:58:27,942 Did you actually have sources in the room? 1163 00:58:27,944 --> 00:58:31,082 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church. 1164 00:58:33,817 --> 00:58:35,783 How close are we to getting something we can run with 1165 00:58:35,785 --> 00:58:37,185 on the Office of Special Plans? 1166 00:58:37,187 --> 00:58:39,020 Well, we already got... 1167 00:58:39,022 --> 00:58:41,656 No, we're just gonna check with a couple more sources. 1168 00:58:41,658 --> 00:58:43,658 What's wrong with the sources you have? 1169 00:58:43,660 --> 00:58:46,094 Well, we just want to be certain. 1170 00:58:46,096 --> 00:58:49,096 You know, you sit on a story like this, the dam bursts. 1171 00:58:49,098 --> 00:58:51,001 Let's just move on this, okay, boys? 1172 00:58:54,904 --> 00:58:56,237 When are you gonna be finished? 1173 00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,243 Just a few more minutes, baby. 1174 00:59:02,846 --> 00:59:06,781 I can't sleep with the computer light on. 1175 00:59:06,783 --> 00:59:09,219 Actually, I'm done. 1176 00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:17,025 So, what are you working on? 1177 00:59:17,027 --> 00:59:19,828 Rumsfeld has a secret Intel group that's going... 1178 00:59:19,830 --> 00:59:24,835 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war. 1179 00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:31,440 What the fuck, Jonathan? 1180 00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:33,107 What? 1181 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:35,078 Have you been talking about this on the phone? 1182 00:59:37,281 --> 00:59:38,779 Yeah, of course. 1183 00:59:38,781 --> 00:59:40,651 So, what? 1184 00:59:43,187 --> 00:59:47,188 - They will hear you. - Vlatka. 1185 00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:49,824 You're writing about infighting between spy agencies. 1186 00:59:49,826 --> 00:59:50,926 So? 1187 00:59:50,928 --> 00:59:53,328 They're spy agencies, Jonathan. 1188 00:59:53,330 --> 00:59:55,964 They listen to your calls, they read your emails. 1189 00:59:55,966 --> 00:59:57,966 They probably bugged this house. 1190 00:59:57,968 --> 00:59:59,967 You're being paranoid. 1191 00:59:59,969 --> 01:00:01,335 You're being naive. 1192 01:00:01,337 --> 01:00:04,739 This isn't Yugoslavia, this is America. 1193 01:00:04,741 --> 01:00:07,007 America has changed. 1194 01:00:07,009 --> 01:00:08,375 War is big business for them. 1195 01:00:08,377 --> 01:00:11,045 You get in their way, they're gonna kill you. 1196 01:00:11,047 --> 01:00:15,817 Honey, you are being ridiculous. All right? Come on. 1197 01:00:15,819 --> 01:00:19,054 Don't you get it? 1198 01:00:19,056 --> 01:00:21,890 You know what these people are capable of? 1199 01:00:21,892 --> 01:00:24,493 You have a family! 1200 01:00:24,495 --> 01:00:28,098 Vlatka. Vlatka! 1201 01:00:32,902 --> 01:00:37,239 Oh, somebody's struggling. What's the matter? 1202 01:00:37,241 --> 01:00:40,542 Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night. 1203 01:00:40,544 --> 01:00:42,176 All right! 1204 01:00:42,178 --> 01:00:46,047 No, not that like that. It was conspiracy theories. 1205 01:00:46,049 --> 01:00:47,415 About what? 1206 01:00:47,417 --> 01:00:50,951 Oh... she thinks the government is monitoring us. 1207 01:00:50,953 --> 01:00:54,124 I mean, it's ridiculous. 1208 01:00:56,225 --> 01:00:57,761 Check your email. 1209 01:01:09,906 --> 01:01:11,839 John, you got to see this. 1210 01:01:11,841 --> 01:01:14,042 Oh, hold on a second. 1211 01:01:14,044 --> 01:01:17,248 Arthur, I really don't want to have this conversation again. 1212 01:01:19,382 --> 01:01:22,819 He hung up. What is it? 1213 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:31,362 What do we do? 1214 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,047 - You're such a wuss. - You're a wuss. 1215 01:01:52,049 --> 01:01:54,015 You're a much bigger wuss. 1216 01:01:54,017 --> 01:01:55,516 Shut up, will you stop it, you're being a child. 1217 01:01:55,518 --> 01:01:57,484 - You're being a... - Shut up! 1218 01:01:57,486 --> 01:02:00,554 Today's UN Security Council resolution... 1219 01:02:00,556 --> 01:02:04,558 can be boiled down to four words, the clock is ticking. 1220 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,596 Iraq's only alternative to full compliance, President Bush... 1221 01:02:08,598 --> 01:02:11,632 made clear today, is of military confrontation. 1222 01:02:11,634 --> 01:02:14,902 The full disarmament of weapons of mass destruction... 1223 01:02:14,904 --> 01:02:16,471 by Iraq will occur. 1224 01:02:16,473 --> 01:02:22,246 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how. 1225 01:02:34,091 --> 01:02:35,422 Son of a bitch. 1226 01:02:35,424 --> 01:02:37,125 They beat us. 1227 01:02:37,127 --> 01:02:39,326 But they missed the whole point of why the unit was set up. 1228 01:02:39,328 --> 01:02:40,629 It doesn't matter, they got the scoop. 1229 01:02:40,631 --> 01:02:42,330 With what? 1230 01:02:42,332 --> 01:02:44,199 There's nothing about cherry picking intelligence. 1231 01:02:44,201 --> 01:02:46,433 There's nothing about bypassing other agencies. 1232 01:02:46,435 --> 01:02:48,036 We can still run ours. 1233 01:02:48,038 --> 01:02:49,337 John, no one's gonna pay attention... 1234 01:02:49,339 --> 01:02:52,140 to a second story explaining all that. 1235 01:02:52,142 --> 01:02:53,908 We had it. 1236 01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:55,911 Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be pissed. 1237 01:02:55,913 --> 01:02:58,115 Maybe he hadn't seen it yet. 1238 01:03:11,661 --> 01:03:14,462 How is it possible he hasn't talked to us all day? 1239 01:03:14,464 --> 01:03:17,134 He's giving us the silent treatment. 1240 01:03:20,136 --> 01:03:22,136 Oh, shit, here he comes. 1241 01:03:22,138 --> 01:03:24,307 Oh, Jesus. 1242 01:03:29,546 --> 01:03:31,549 You had the story. 1243 01:03:33,317 --> 01:03:35,319 Don't ever forget how it feels to get beat. 1244 01:03:39,723 --> 01:03:42,156 The only information Congress is getting... 1245 01:03:42,158 --> 01:03:44,359 is coming directly from the administration. 1246 01:03:44,361 --> 01:03:47,194 Iraq is a huge country about the size of France... 1247 01:03:47,196 --> 01:03:49,230 if they want to hide their weapons of mass destruction... 1248 01:03:49,232 --> 01:03:50,998 they're going to be able to do so. 1249 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,368 They're not going to rethink their positions... 1250 01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:56,004 unless they are provided with independent intel. 1251 01:03:56,006 --> 01:03:58,640 No one who's supported the authorization for war... 1252 01:03:58,642 --> 01:04:02,377 in Congress, in Iraq, not the president... 1253 01:04:02,379 --> 01:04:06,348 I am sure would go to war just because he wants to go to war. 1254 01:04:06,350 --> 01:04:09,984 Rumsfeld's been trying to sell this idea that an Iraqi... 1255 01:04:09,986 --> 01:04:13,754 intelligence officer offered bin Laden safe haven in '99. 1256 01:04:13,756 --> 01:04:15,290 Yeah. 1257 01:04:15,292 --> 01:04:17,525 Well, if that offer actually had happened... 1258 01:04:17,527 --> 01:04:20,661 bin Laden would have told Saddam to go fuck himself. 1259 01:04:20,663 --> 01:04:22,663 What do you make of the statement made... 1260 01:04:22,665 --> 01:04:25,266 by the Iraqi government that Iraq has no weapons... 1261 01:04:25,268 --> 01:04:27,634 of mass destruction and is not developing? 1262 01:04:27,636 --> 01:04:29,406 They're lying. 1263 01:04:31,241 --> 01:04:32,607 Next. 1264 01:04:32,609 --> 01:04:34,208 Your daughter is lovely. 1265 01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:35,777 Well, I wish I could take credit. 1266 01:04:35,779 --> 01:04:37,478 She gets it from her mother. 1267 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,679 Dad, can I get you anything? 1268 01:04:38,681 --> 01:04:40,515 - Oh, no, thanks, sweetie. - Mr. Strobel? 1269 01:04:40,517 --> 01:04:42,319 - I'm fine. - All right. 1270 01:04:45,489 --> 01:04:47,221 Just real casual. 1271 01:04:47,223 --> 01:04:48,790 Tom and I were just talking about your latest article. 1272 01:04:48,792 --> 01:04:50,324 Oh, yeah? 1273 01:04:50,326 --> 01:04:52,092 Seems like you don't trust politicians. 1274 01:04:52,094 --> 01:04:55,129 Well, that's a pretty solid rule of journalism. 1275 01:04:55,131 --> 01:04:57,232 Even when they're talking about war? 1276 01:04:57,234 --> 01:04:59,466 Especially when they're talking about war. 1277 01:04:59,468 --> 01:05:01,569 You really believe there's no WMD? 1278 01:05:01,571 --> 01:05:03,638 Our names are on the article. 1279 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,640 They don't say that there's no WMD. 1280 01:05:05,642 --> 01:05:07,141 They just said that the administration... 1281 01:05:07,143 --> 01:05:08,576 hasn't offered any proof of WMD. 1282 01:05:08,578 --> 01:05:10,645 And you don't think they'll find any? 1283 01:05:10,647 --> 01:05:13,614 No, I don't. 1284 01:05:13,616 --> 01:05:14,815 You don't know that. 1285 01:05:14,817 --> 01:05:16,551 No, we don't. 1286 01:05:16,553 --> 01:05:18,752 But before we send our kids to their possible deaths... 1287 01:05:18,754 --> 01:05:20,487 don't you think the administration... 1288 01:05:20,489 --> 01:05:22,390 has an obligation to provide proof of their rationale? 1289 01:05:22,392 --> 01:05:25,560 What if that proof comes in the form of a mushroom cloud? 1290 01:05:25,562 --> 01:05:28,730 Okay, you've been watching Fox News again? 1291 01:05:28,732 --> 01:05:31,332 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing. 1292 01:05:31,334 --> 01:05:33,301 Oh, well, then it must be true. 1293 01:05:33,303 --> 01:05:35,270 You kids are too young to remember... 1294 01:05:35,272 --> 01:05:37,672 how close we came to nuclear war in '62. 1295 01:05:37,674 --> 01:05:39,540 Hell, Warren, you were born the very day... 1296 01:05:39,542 --> 01:05:42,777 President Kennedy ordered the blockade against Cuba. 1297 01:05:42,779 --> 01:05:45,612 The most powerful enemy we knew was gonna put nuclear weapons... 1298 01:05:45,614 --> 01:05:47,714 90 miles off our coast. 1299 01:05:47,716 --> 01:05:49,551 The president had to demonstrate strength. 1300 01:05:49,553 --> 01:05:53,455 And the next day, Kennedy sent Adlai Stevenson to the U.N... 1301 01:05:53,457 --> 01:05:55,558 to offer proof that the missiles existed. 1302 01:05:56,759 --> 01:05:58,592 It's not just Fox News. 1303 01:05:58,594 --> 01:06:01,862 It's the Washington Post. It's The New York Times. 1304 01:06:01,864 --> 01:06:04,799 Hell, proof is coming from every major media outlet... 1305 01:06:04,801 --> 01:06:07,705 in the country, except yours. 1306 01:06:09,272 --> 01:06:10,804 Okay. 1307 01:06:10,806 --> 01:06:16,413 Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me. 1308 01:06:18,114 --> 01:06:20,750 I'm going to grab a beer. 1309 01:06:23,352 --> 01:06:25,121 Jesus, Dad. 1310 01:06:36,299 --> 01:06:37,464 Are you okay, bro? 1311 01:06:37,466 --> 01:06:39,069 Yeah. 1312 01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:44,172 Are we good reporters? 1313 01:06:44,174 --> 01:06:45,272 What? 1314 01:06:45,274 --> 01:06:48,208 I mean, are we doing anything... 1315 01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:49,877 other than practicing good journalism? 1316 01:06:49,879 --> 01:06:51,913 No, we're doing exactly what we're supposed... 1317 01:06:51,915 --> 01:06:54,449 Then, why the fuck are we the only ones... 1318 01:06:54,451 --> 01:06:56,620 running these fucking stories?! 1319 01:07:04,527 --> 01:07:06,828 He just wanted you to see all sides to him... 1320 01:07:06,830 --> 01:07:08,466 before you take it to the next level. 1321 01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:15,569 Almost three months ago, the United Nations... 1322 01:07:15,571 --> 01:07:17,739 Security Council gave Saddam Hussein... 1323 01:07:17,741 --> 01:07:20,942 his final chance to disarm. 1324 01:07:20,944 --> 01:07:22,777 Our intelligence officials estimate... 1325 01:07:22,779 --> 01:07:24,645 that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce... 1326 01:07:24,647 --> 01:07:27,549 What's the point of having U.N. weapons inspections... 1327 01:07:27,551 --> 01:07:30,185 if Bush and Cheney are just going to ignore the results? 1328 01:07:30,187 --> 01:07:33,254 Well, when you're creating your own reality... 1329 01:07:33,256 --> 01:07:35,255 it's pretty easy to ignore the facts. 1330 01:07:35,257 --> 01:07:37,357 And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient... 1331 01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:39,861 for the mainstream media at this point? 1332 01:07:39,863 --> 01:07:41,763 When news is a profit center... 1333 01:07:41,765 --> 01:07:43,531 Access becomes currency. 1334 01:07:43,533 --> 01:07:44,668 Exactly. 1335 01:07:46,402 --> 01:07:47,634 I'm proud of you, John. 1336 01:07:47,636 --> 01:07:48,703 Why? 1337 01:07:48,705 --> 01:07:52,473 For not wavering. 1338 01:07:52,475 --> 01:07:53,841 It's got to be tough. 1339 01:07:53,843 --> 01:07:55,542 It's not that tough. 1340 01:07:55,544 --> 01:07:59,746 I know who their sources are and I know who our sources are. 1341 01:07:59,748 --> 01:08:03,384 "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured in a Talk with Bush... 1342 01:08:03,386 --> 01:08:06,587 "About the Post-Hussein Era." 1343 01:08:06,589 --> 01:08:07,922 By Judith Miller. 1344 01:08:07,924 --> 01:08:09,656 She'd quote a carnival fortune teller... 1345 01:08:09,658 --> 01:08:12,426 if he was willing to say Iraq had WMD. 1346 01:08:12,428 --> 01:08:15,230 We gotta dig into the declassified... 1347 01:08:15,232 --> 01:08:16,597 national intelligence estimate... 1348 01:08:16,599 --> 01:08:19,234 and find out if there are any gems in there. 1349 01:08:19,236 --> 01:08:20,302 Yeah, I'd love to see... 1350 01:08:20,304 --> 01:08:22,770 what they redacted from the classified version. 1351 01:08:22,772 --> 01:08:24,371 Oh, what's going on with Chalabi? 1352 01:08:24,373 --> 01:08:25,707 We're on it. 1353 01:08:25,709 --> 01:08:26,908 I'm gonna keep an eye on my old boss. 1354 01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:28,709 - I got a feeling. - Yeah... 1355 01:08:28,711 --> 01:08:31,714 Colin may be the last person standing between peace and war. 1356 01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:34,919 Yeah. 1357 01:08:42,559 --> 01:08:44,461 Goddamn it! 1358 01:08:49,965 --> 01:08:51,367 Fuck! 1359 01:08:56,773 --> 01:08:58,472 Angela, did the mayor set a date... 1360 01:08:58,474 --> 01:08:59,673 for the fundraiser yet? 1361 01:08:59,675 --> 01:09:02,643 Hey, Arthur, I was totally wrong. 1362 01:09:02,645 --> 01:09:05,545 Your head isn't literally up your ass. 1363 01:09:05,547 --> 01:09:08,348 It's always a pleasure to see you, John... 1364 01:09:08,350 --> 01:09:10,884 but would you please wait outside? 1365 01:09:10,886 --> 01:09:13,387 You know, it's bad enough you're ignoring all our work... 1366 01:09:13,389 --> 01:09:15,757 but the fact that you're running these bullshit... 1367 01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:19,326 Judy Miller pieces is unconscionable. 1368 01:09:19,328 --> 01:09:20,727 Not in here, John. Okay, please? 1369 01:09:20,729 --> 01:09:24,632 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me. 1370 01:09:24,634 --> 01:09:26,801 Jesus. 1371 01:09:26,803 --> 01:09:28,569 Look, as painful as this might seem... 1372 01:09:28,571 --> 01:09:30,370 I don't answer to you, John. 1373 01:09:30,372 --> 01:09:32,539 Yes, as evidenced by the fact that you still have a job. 1374 01:09:32,541 --> 01:09:34,642 You know what, my responsibility is to my readers. 1375 01:09:34,644 --> 01:09:36,311 They're citizens who are patriots... 1376 01:09:36,313 --> 01:09:37,978 they're citizens who support our troops. 1377 01:09:37,980 --> 01:09:40,080 And how do you do that, Arthur? 1378 01:09:40,082 --> 01:09:42,650 By going down on The New York Times? 1379 01:09:42,652 --> 01:09:44,552 I don't have time for this. 1380 01:09:44,554 --> 01:09:45,986 No, you don't have time. 1381 01:09:45,988 --> 01:09:47,554 You don't have time. 1382 01:09:47,556 --> 01:09:48,955 You know, one day, The New York Times... 1383 01:09:48,957 --> 01:09:50,792 is going to apologize to its readers. 1384 01:09:50,794 --> 01:09:54,529 And when that day comes, are you gonna write your own apology? 1385 01:09:54,531 --> 01:09:56,931 Or are you just going to run theirs? 1386 01:09:56,933 --> 01:09:58,868 Have a nice day, John. 1387 01:10:01,403 --> 01:10:03,338 It is beginning to look more and more as though... 1388 01:10:03,340 --> 01:10:05,539 war with Iraq is inevitable. 1389 01:10:05,541 --> 01:10:08,543 The Showdown with Iraq and the countdown to a speech... 1390 01:10:08,545 --> 01:10:10,744 by Secretary of State Colin Powell... 1391 01:10:10,746 --> 01:10:12,946 that could move the world closer to war. 1392 01:10:12,948 --> 01:10:15,415 There's not much left for the soldiers to do but wait... 1393 01:10:15,417 --> 01:10:18,886 for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports... 1394 01:10:18,888 --> 01:10:21,888 That's so frustrating. 1395 01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:23,794 I don't know that I could do what you do. 1396 01:10:25,929 --> 01:10:27,462 You know, I once got it in my head... 1397 01:10:27,464 --> 01:10:29,530 that I should hike the Appalachian Trail. 1398 01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,766 Thought that it would just be a good challenge for myself. 1399 01:10:31,768 --> 01:10:35,372 Then I look at it on a map and it's like 2200 miles. 1400 01:10:37,573 --> 01:10:39,374 I realized... 1401 01:10:39,376 --> 01:10:40,975 That it would take a lifetime? 1402 01:10:40,977 --> 01:10:42,712 Yeah. 1403 01:10:46,148 --> 01:10:47,817 Or we could walk it together. 1404 01:10:49,885 --> 01:10:53,987 I'm gonna hold you to that. 1405 01:10:53,989 --> 01:10:55,856 Worldwide resistance is mounting... 1406 01:10:55,858 --> 01:10:59,593 against America's military intervention into Iraq. 1407 01:10:59,595 --> 01:11:02,530 From US cities to Europe and the Middle East... 1408 01:11:02,532 --> 01:11:05,600 demonstrators have taken to the streets in opposition... 1409 01:11:05,602 --> 01:11:08,805 to the United States' threat to invade Iraq. 1410 01:11:16,446 --> 01:11:18,478 Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay, how do you do? 1411 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:19,713 - Hello. - I'm Entifadh Qanbar. 1412 01:11:19,715 --> 01:11:21,517 - Hi. - Now, please, follow me. 1413 01:11:22,919 --> 01:11:24,518 Who's this dude? 1414 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,123 Guy who used to deliver pizzas. I'm not kidding. 1415 01:11:29,125 --> 01:11:30,892 Minister Chalabi, Mr. Jonathan Landay... 1416 01:11:30,894 --> 01:11:34,628 and Warren Strobel from Knight Ridder News. 1417 01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:36,864 Gentlemen, welcome. 1418 01:11:36,866 --> 01:11:40,735 Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us. 1419 01:11:40,737 --> 01:11:43,204 I've been very busy. 1420 01:11:43,206 --> 01:11:45,606 Talking to our competitors. 1421 01:11:45,608 --> 01:11:47,909 I speak with whomever wishes to speak with me. 1422 01:11:47,911 --> 01:11:50,210 After all, I have nothing to hide... 1423 01:11:50,212 --> 01:11:54,182 which is more than I can say for Saddam. 1424 01:11:54,184 --> 01:11:55,950 Okay, well, since you brought him up... 1425 01:11:55,952 --> 01:11:57,651 I thought we might talk about what... 1426 01:11:57,653 --> 01:11:59,719 you know about his weapons and how he might be hiding them. 1427 01:11:59,721 --> 01:12:05,125 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know. 1428 01:12:05,127 --> 01:12:07,695 Right, and you know that how? 1429 01:12:07,697 --> 01:12:10,897 I know everything that's happening in my country. 1430 01:12:10,899 --> 01:12:14,168 Even though Iraq hasn't been your country for over a decade? 1431 01:12:14,170 --> 01:12:19,073 I may be an exile, but I'm still an Iraqi. 1432 01:12:19,075 --> 01:12:21,542 Well, I think the point my colleague is trying to make... 1433 01:12:21,544 --> 01:12:24,678 is how would you, an enemy of Saddam, in exile... 1434 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,949 have access to such valuable information? 1435 01:12:27,951 --> 01:12:29,984 I maintain close relationships... 1436 01:12:29,986 --> 01:12:32,152 with dissident intelligence sources. 1437 01:12:32,154 --> 01:12:33,820 Is there a way we can verify that? 1438 01:12:33,822 --> 01:12:35,589 No. 1439 01:12:35,591 --> 01:12:37,525 See, that's kind of a problem for us... 1440 01:12:37,527 --> 01:12:39,060 because we can't write a story... 1441 01:12:39,062 --> 01:12:44,832 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq. 1442 01:12:44,834 --> 01:12:46,801 With you as its leader? 1443 01:12:46,803 --> 01:12:50,504 If the people of Iraq wish for me to return, yes. 1444 01:12:50,506 --> 01:12:54,508 I want the opportunity to help rebuild my country... 1445 01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:57,011 the way Mandela did in South Africa. 1446 01:12:57,013 --> 01:13:01,548 But Mandela didn't ask the U.S. to invade his country. 1447 01:13:01,550 --> 01:13:04,651 He wasn't fighting terrorists. 1448 01:13:04,653 --> 01:13:06,887 With all due respect, that's where the red flags... 1449 01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:08,722 start to go up for us. 1450 01:13:08,724 --> 01:13:11,225 Are you implying that I've created a false narrative... 1451 01:13:11,227 --> 01:13:12,994 for my own pursuits? 1452 01:13:12,996 --> 01:13:15,295 Is there another reason why you'd create a false narrative? 1453 01:13:15,297 --> 01:13:18,132 I don't lie! 1454 01:13:18,134 --> 01:13:20,968 Saddam Hussein has mobile chemical... 1455 01:13:20,970 --> 01:13:22,969 and biological weapons labs. 1456 01:13:22,971 --> 01:13:27,208 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists. 1457 01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:30,744 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other... 1458 01:13:30,746 --> 01:13:32,646 defectors and hear what they say. 1459 01:13:32,648 --> 01:13:34,682 They will all tell you the same thing. 1460 01:13:34,684 --> 01:13:39,656 Don't they all get their information from you? 1461 01:13:43,091 --> 01:13:46,093 If you were wondering why it took so long for me... 1462 01:13:46,095 --> 01:13:51,865 to meet with you, it's this smug attitude. 1463 01:13:51,867 --> 01:13:55,735 You have no intention of reporting anything I've said. 1464 01:13:55,737 --> 01:13:58,204 Do you want us to just be your cheerleaders? 1465 01:13:58,206 --> 01:13:59,707 All right, I think we should go. 1466 01:13:59,709 --> 01:14:03,143 Thank you for your time. 1467 01:14:03,145 --> 01:14:07,748 Now I see why no one reads anything you write. 1468 01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:11,319 I am an advocate for the removal of a vicious dictator... 1469 01:14:11,321 --> 01:14:16,057 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally... 1470 01:14:16,059 --> 01:14:20,828 to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world. 1471 01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:24,164 And exactly how will this happen after Saddam Hussein is gone? 1472 01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:25,865 All right, come on, Landay. 1473 01:14:25,867 --> 01:14:27,701 No, no, no, he says the world will be better off... 1474 01:14:27,703 --> 01:14:29,203 but he doesn't say how. 1475 01:14:29,205 --> 01:14:31,705 How would the removal of Saddam Hussein... 1476 01:14:31,707 --> 01:14:34,741 not plunge Iraq into a bloody civil war? 1477 01:14:34,743 --> 01:14:36,677 Tell us something that makes sense... 1478 01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:41,915 anything that makes sense, and we'll write that story today. 1479 01:14:41,917 --> 01:14:43,183 You can't! 1480 01:14:43,185 --> 01:14:45,785 Because you have no idea what happens next. 1481 01:14:45,787 --> 01:14:47,821 - And neither does anyone else. - John. John! 1482 01:14:47,823 --> 01:14:50,758 I would rather go back and write for my high school paper... 1483 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,093 than to be used by you... 1484 01:14:52,095 --> 01:14:55,161 to sell the American public your bullshit. 1485 01:14:55,163 --> 01:14:56,132 All right. 1486 01:15:00,303 --> 01:15:04,204 By the way, it's Knight Ridder. 1487 01:15:04,206 --> 01:15:06,007 Secretary of State Colin Powell will make the case... 1488 01:15:06,009 --> 01:15:09,310 against Iraq in a nationally televised address... 1489 01:15:09,312 --> 01:15:11,779 to the UN Security Council. 1490 01:15:11,781 --> 01:15:13,780 Looks like they're bringing in the closer. 1491 01:15:13,782 --> 01:15:15,249 Mr. Secretary, are you confident... 1492 01:15:15,251 --> 01:15:16,851 you will make your case, sir? 1493 01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:18,319 You'll see. 1494 01:15:18,321 --> 01:15:20,154 What the hell game have we've been playing? 1495 01:15:20,156 --> 01:15:22,292 All we did is piss into the wind. 1496 01:15:24,426 --> 01:15:27,427 We did our jobs. 1497 01:15:27,429 --> 01:15:30,830 I should never have become a reporter. 1498 01:15:30,832 --> 01:15:33,870 Damn that Woodward and Bernstein. 1499 01:15:36,339 --> 01:15:39,073 They took down a president whose biggest crime... 1500 01:15:39,075 --> 01:15:42,910 was trying to cover up some dirty political tricks. 1501 01:15:42,912 --> 01:15:45,279 This president's about to do the worst thing any president... 1502 01:15:45,281 --> 01:15:47,718 could do and he'll probably get re-elected. 1503 01:15:49,852 --> 01:15:51,787 To the democratic experiment. 1504 01:15:55,257 --> 01:15:56,891 Thank you, Mr. President. 1505 01:15:56,893 --> 01:15:59,192 My colleagues, every statement I make today... 1506 01:15:59,194 --> 01:16:03,931 is backed up by sources, solid sources. 1507 01:16:03,933 --> 01:16:07,334 The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity... 1508 01:16:07,336 --> 01:16:10,337 of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction... 1509 01:16:10,339 --> 01:16:11,905 pose to the world. 1510 01:16:11,907 --> 01:16:15,709 It was a set up, the whole damn thing was a set up. 1511 01:16:15,711 --> 01:16:18,244 Tenet sent Powell a stack of files this high... 1512 01:16:18,246 --> 01:16:19,413 that supported the invasion. 1513 01:16:19,415 --> 01:16:21,414 Saddam Hussein is determined... 1514 01:16:21,416 --> 01:16:23,851 to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. 1515 01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:25,218 Cheney sent Scooter Libby... 1516 01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:27,887 to push three main arguments in those files. 1517 01:16:27,889 --> 01:16:29,423 One: Saddam's human rights abuses... 1518 01:16:29,425 --> 01:16:30,990 which everybody knew about. 1519 01:16:30,992 --> 01:16:32,860 Two: his links to al Qaeda, which Powell... 1520 01:16:32,862 --> 01:16:34,762 of course, threw right in the trash. 1521 01:16:34,764 --> 01:16:39,400 And the third focused on Iraq's WMD. 1522 01:16:39,402 --> 01:16:41,869 Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons... 1523 01:16:41,871 --> 01:16:44,204 of mass destruction for a few more months or years... 1524 01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:48,241 is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world. 1525 01:16:48,243 --> 01:16:52,178 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer... 1526 01:16:52,180 --> 01:16:55,415 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files. 1527 01:16:55,417 --> 01:16:57,250 He threw out 80% of them. 1528 01:16:57,252 --> 01:16:59,018 At the end of the four days... 1529 01:16:59,020 --> 01:17:01,254 Powell looked Tenet right in the eye and said... 1530 01:17:01,256 --> 01:17:06,192 "George, can we stand by every word of this?" 1531 01:17:06,194 --> 01:17:13,066 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you." 1532 01:17:13,068 --> 01:17:15,302 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George. 1533 01:17:15,304 --> 01:17:17,271 "I'm glad you feel that way, 'cause you're going to be... 1534 01:17:17,273 --> 01:17:20,307 "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world." 1535 01:17:20,309 --> 01:17:24,410 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility... 1536 01:17:24,412 --> 01:17:26,379 to the citizens of the countries... 1537 01:17:26,381 --> 01:17:29,450 that are represented by this body. 1538 01:17:29,452 --> 01:17:32,285 Colin took one for the team. 1539 01:17:32,287 --> 01:17:34,320 Always the good soldier. 1540 01:17:34,322 --> 01:17:36,323 Has the Iraqi regime fully... 1541 01:17:36,325 --> 01:17:39,927 and unconditionally disarmed? 1542 01:17:39,929 --> 01:17:43,097 The only acceptable outcome is the one already defined... 1543 01:17:43,099 --> 01:17:45,865 by a unanimous vote of the Security Council. 1544 01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:49,003 Total disarmament. 1545 01:17:49,005 --> 01:17:51,204 Great Britain, Spain and the United States have introduced.. 1546 01:17:51,206 --> 01:17:54,508 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet... 1547 01:17:54,510 --> 01:18:01,382 the requirements of Resolution 1441. 1548 01:18:01,384 --> 01:18:05,319 This is a fact, it cannot be denied. 1549 01:18:05,321 --> 01:18:06,553 And what harm would it do to give... 1550 01:18:06,555 --> 01:18:08,489 Saddam a final ultimatum? 1551 01:18:08,491 --> 01:18:11,392 A two or three day deadline to disarm or face force? 1552 01:18:11,394 --> 01:18:13,994 September the 11th changed the strategic thinking... 1553 01:18:13,996 --> 01:18:16,230 at least as far as I was concerned... 1554 01:18:16,232 --> 01:18:18,865 for how to protect our country. 1555 01:18:18,867 --> 01:18:24,038 My job is to protect the American people. 1556 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,040 Used to be that we could think that you could contain... 1557 01:18:27,042 --> 01:18:28,909 a person like Saddam Hussein... 1558 01:18:28,911 --> 01:18:31,611 that oceans would protect us from his type of terror. 1559 01:18:33,515 --> 01:18:35,516 September the 11th should say to the American people... 1560 01:18:35,518 --> 01:18:37,418 Hello? 1561 01:18:37,420 --> 01:18:39,352 You need to pack your bags. 1562 01:18:39,354 --> 01:18:42,589 Right. 1563 01:18:42,591 --> 01:18:45,092 In the hands of a terrorist organization... 1564 01:18:45,094 --> 01:18:48,428 could be deployed here at home. 1565 01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:52,432 King, John King. This is a scripted... 1566 01:18:52,434 --> 01:18:54,267 Thank you, Mr. President. 1567 01:18:54,269 --> 01:18:56,603 Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they... 1568 01:18:56,605 --> 01:18:58,338 They think this is somehow personal? 1569 01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:00,374 As Senator Kennedy put it tonight... 1570 01:19:00,376 --> 01:19:02,877 he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein... 1571 01:19:02,879 --> 01:19:05,079 is making the world a more dangerous place. 1572 01:19:05,081 --> 01:19:07,114 And as you prepare the American people for the possibility... 1573 01:19:07,116 --> 01:19:09,316 of military conflict, could you share with us... 1574 01:19:09,318 --> 01:19:11,451 any of the scenarios your advisors have shared... 1575 01:19:11,453 --> 01:19:15,222 with you about worst-case scenarios? 1576 01:19:15,224 --> 01:19:21,464 You make sure the... this country knows what's going on out there. 1577 01:19:22,598 --> 01:19:25,031 - Yeah? - I will. 1578 01:19:25,033 --> 01:19:29,335 I swore to protect and defend the Constitution. 1579 01:19:29,337 --> 01:19:31,371 He has weapons of mass destruction... 1580 01:19:31,373 --> 01:19:34,475 and he has used weapons of mass destruction. 1581 01:19:34,477 --> 01:19:36,176 He has trained and financed... 1582 01:19:36,178 --> 01:19:38,646 al Qaeda-type organizations before. 1583 01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:42,449 I take the threat seriously, and I'll deal with the threat. 1584 01:19:42,451 --> 01:19:45,319 I hope it can be done peacefully. 1585 01:19:45,321 --> 01:19:48,422 They hate what we stand for. 1586 01:19:48,424 --> 01:19:50,227 We love freedom, and we're not changing. 1587 01:19:52,127 --> 01:19:54,093 Mr. President, millions of Americans can... 1588 01:19:54,095 --> 01:19:57,097 recall a time when leaders from both parties set this country.. 1589 01:19:57,099 --> 01:19:59,333 on a mission of regime change in Vietnam. 1590 01:19:59,335 --> 01:20:01,968 50,000 Americans died. 1591 01:20:01,970 --> 01:20:04,938 The regime is still there in Hanoi and it hasn't harmed... 1592 01:20:04,940 --> 01:20:06,606 or threatened a single American in 30 years... 1593 01:20:06,608 --> 01:20:08,409 since the war ended. 1594 01:20:08,411 --> 01:20:11,177 What can you say tonight, sir, to the sons and daughters... 1595 01:20:11,179 --> 01:20:14,647 of the Americans who served in Vietnam to assure them that... 1596 01:20:14,649 --> 01:20:18,418 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq? 1597 01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:21,387 That's a great question. 1598 01:20:21,389 --> 01:20:24,191 No doubt, there's risks with any military operation. 1599 01:20:24,193 --> 01:20:26,026 I know that. 1600 01:20:26,028 --> 01:20:28,462 It's a good thing he can draw on all that experience he got... 1601 01:20:28,464 --> 01:20:30,664 while not serving in the National Guard. 1602 01:20:30,666 --> 01:20:34,034 But it's very clear what we intend to do. 1603 01:20:34,036 --> 01:20:36,139 And our mission won't change. 1604 01:20:38,674 --> 01:20:43,343 It could last, you know, six days, six weeks... 1605 01:20:43,345 --> 01:20:47,114 I doubt six months. 1606 01:20:47,116 --> 01:20:48,649 There's a lot of money to pay for this... 1607 01:20:48,651 --> 01:20:50,616 that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. 1608 01:20:50,618 --> 01:20:53,152 We're dealing with a country that can really finance... 1609 01:20:53,154 --> 01:20:56,022 its own reconstruction, and relatively soon. 1610 01:20:56,024 --> 01:20:58,592 There will always be some uncertainty... 1611 01:20:58,594 --> 01:21:01,328 about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons... 1612 01:21:01,330 --> 01:21:04,263 but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. 1613 01:21:04,265 --> 01:21:06,165 Do you think the America people... 1614 01:21:06,167 --> 01:21:09,636 are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle... 1615 01:21:09,638 --> 01:21:12,106 with significant American casualties? 1616 01:21:12,108 --> 01:21:14,173 I don't think it's likely to unfold that way, Tim... 1617 01:21:14,175 --> 01:21:16,276 because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators. 1618 01:21:16,278 --> 01:21:19,213 Six weeks after the war had begun, the President... 1619 01:21:19,215 --> 01:21:21,481 is set to deliver a very carefully worded speech... 1620 01:21:21,483 --> 01:21:24,084 on a carrier in the Pacific. 1621 01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:27,620 My fellow Americans, major combat operations... 1622 01:21:27,622 --> 01:21:29,556 in Iraq have ended. 1623 01:21:29,558 --> 01:21:32,659 In the battle of Iraq, the United States... 1624 01:21:32,661 --> 01:21:35,498 and our allies have prevailed. 1625 01:22:17,572 --> 01:22:19,575 I want to go down there. 1626 01:22:37,492 --> 01:22:40,496 They were the first to die. 1627 01:22:45,233 --> 01:22:47,370 Were you there? 1628 01:22:50,706 --> 01:22:52,108 Thank you. 1629 01:22:57,545 --> 01:22:59,281 Thank you, son. 1630 01:24:04,779 --> 01:24:06,579 Jonathan, how did it feel, therefore... 1631 01:24:06,581 --> 01:24:10,350 to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact? 1632 01:24:10,352 --> 01:24:12,718 It was very lonely and what made it actually one... 1633 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,288 of the ironies is... 1634 01:24:14,290 --> 01:24:15,955 that every time we would write something... 1635 01:24:15,957 --> 01:24:19,325 the White House would say nothing, because we realized... 1636 01:24:19,327 --> 01:24:21,561 after a while that that would have been the best... 1637 01:24:21,563 --> 01:24:24,530 advertising for our stories we could have possibly asked for. 1638 01:24:24,532 --> 01:24:25,632 There's a problem with journalism... 1639 01:24:25,634 --> 01:24:27,433 in Washington, which is access. 1640 01:24:27,435 --> 01:24:29,302 And The New York Times and others had access to the top... 1641 01:24:29,304 --> 01:24:30,736 officials who were spinning this line. 1642 01:24:30,738 --> 01:24:32,371 We talked to those people, as well... 1643 01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:33,640 but most of our reporting, Christiane... 1644 01:24:33,642 --> 01:24:35,642 was with intelligence, military... 1645 01:24:35,644 --> 01:24:36,810 and diplomatic mid-level... 1646 01:24:36,812 --> 01:24:38,811 - Lower level? - Lower level. 1647 01:24:38,813 --> 01:24:40,780 The types journalists don't normally talk to or go after. 1648 01:24:40,782 --> 01:24:42,783 Can I just give a little credit, also, to the man... 1649 01:24:42,785 --> 01:24:44,718 who was our boss at the time, John Walcott. 1650 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,887 Higher levels of civilization... 1651 01:24:46,889 --> 01:24:49,455 must depend even more heavily... 1652 01:24:49,457 --> 01:24:52,926 on a conscientious respect for the importance of honesty... 1653 01:24:52,928 --> 01:24:56,829 and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn... 1654 01:24:56,831 --> 01:25:02,468 concern for accuracy in determining what the facts are. 1655 01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:07,240 We need to find some way to cover the world so that... 1656 01:25:07,242 --> 01:25:09,543 we know what's happening out there... 1657 01:25:09,545 --> 01:25:11,311 that we know the truth about it... 1658 01:25:11,313 --> 01:25:15,882 so we can avoid mistakes... 1659 01:25:15,884 --> 01:25:18,884 mistakes like Iraq. 1660 01:25:18,886 --> 01:25:21,021 The intelligence was what it was. 1661 01:25:21,023 --> 01:25:22,888 You know, people like me couldn't make it up. 1662 01:25:22,890 --> 01:25:24,591 The intelligence wasn't what it was... 1663 01:25:24,593 --> 01:25:26,560 and not everybody got it wrong. 1664 01:25:26,562 --> 01:25:29,431 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder. 1665 01:25:29,433 --> 01:25:31,999 Subtitles by explosiveskull 133353

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