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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:05,735 --> 00:01:07,227 d Well d 2 00:01:07,391 --> 00:01:10,977 d Take me back down where cool water flows, y'all. d 3 00:01:14,177 --> 00:01:16,350 d Let me remember things I love d 4 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,756 Dan, your rifle. 5 00:01:18,855 --> 00:01:20,245 All right, kill 'em all. 6 00:01:20,999 --> 00:01:24,203 d Stoppin' at the log where catfish bite, d 7 00:01:25,397 --> 00:01:26,585 Who's the long hair? 8 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:28,377 That's Ellsberg-- 9 00:01:28,682 --> 00:01:30,542 works with Langsdale at the Embassy. 10 00:01:31,018 --> 00:01:32,244 He's observing. 11 00:01:34,565 --> 00:01:38,136 d I can hear the bullfrog callin' me, oh d 12 00:01:41,542 --> 00:01:44,550 d Wonder if my rope's still hangin' to the tree d 13 00:01:45,581 --> 00:01:46,761 Let's move out. 14 00:01:47,016 --> 00:01:48,000 Move out! 15 00:01:48,226 --> 00:01:51,430 d Love to kick my feet way down the shallow water d 16 00:01:51,711 --> 00:01:54,891 d Shoo fly, dragonfly, get back t'mother d 17 00:01:55,338 --> 00:01:56,528 -Take good care. -Good luck. 18 00:01:56,652 --> 00:01:59,098 d Skip it across Green River d 19 00:02:02,022 --> 00:02:03,967 d Well! d 20 00:03:07,516 --> 00:03:10,813 Bravo-two-seven, this is Kilo-four-tango. 21 00:03:18,237 --> 00:03:19,620 Fire mission: 22 00:03:19,659 --> 00:03:23,183 Grid: Two-niner-eight-four- seven-one. 23 00:03:24,497 --> 00:03:25,536 Lay down. 24 00:03:37,903 --> 00:03:39,942 Hang in there, buddy. They're gonna fix you up. 25 00:03:47,562 --> 00:03:49,633 We're gonna get you outta here, don't you worry 'bout it. 26 00:03:56,541 --> 00:03:57,416 Dan? 27 00:04:00,213 --> 00:04:00,971 Dan? 28 00:04:02,977 --> 00:04:03,844 Dan? 29 00:04:04,884 --> 00:04:07,111 Secretary would like a word, wanna follow me? 30 00:04:13,812 --> 00:04:15,750 Well, y-you can say what you want to the President-- 31 00:04:16,116 --> 00:04:17,945 I've read every one of Ellsberg's reports, 32 00:04:17,970 --> 00:04:20,820 and I'm telling you, it's just not the case. 33 00:04:21,328 --> 00:04:22,843 Dan, you know Mr. Komer. 34 00:04:23,967 --> 00:04:25,420 He's been discussing the war with the President 35 00:04:25,483 --> 00:04:27,217 and, well, his sense is that we've made real progress 36 00:04:27,272 --> 00:04:29,397 over the past year, but I've been doing my own review 37 00:04:29,422 --> 00:04:31,523 and it seems to me that things have gotten worse. 38 00:04:31,746 --> 00:04:32,895 But neither of us have been in the field-- 39 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,833 you have--you're the one who knows 40 00:04:33,858 --> 00:04:35,075 so, what do you say? 41 00:04:36,294 --> 00:04:37,821 Are things better or worse? 42 00:04:39,689 --> 00:04:42,587 Well, Mr. Secretary, what I'm most impressed by 43 00:04:42,673 --> 00:04:44,423 is how much things are the same. 44 00:04:44,603 --> 00:04:46,298 See, that's exactly what I'm saying. 45 00:04:48,492 --> 00:04:50,515 We put another 100,000 troops in the field, 46 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:51,603 things are no better? 47 00:04:51,628 --> 00:04:54,212 To me, that seems like things are actually worse. 48 00:04:56,602 --> 00:04:57,602 Thank you, Dan. 49 00:05:01,579 --> 00:05:02,743 Mr. Secretary! 50 00:05:03,556 --> 00:05:04,657 Mr. Secretary, sir! 51 00:05:06,433 --> 00:05:07,612 How was your trip, sir? 52 00:05:08,659 --> 00:05:09,347 Sir? 53 00:05:09,495 --> 00:05:11,604 Good afternoon, gentlemen, I don't have any uh, 54 00:05:11,629 --> 00:05:13,698 prepared remarks but I'd be very happy to take your questions 55 00:05:13,723 --> 00:05:15,284 one at a time-- Jim? 56 00:05:15,338 --> 00:05:18,252 Mr. Secretary, I'm wondering if the trip left you optimistic 57 00:05:18,324 --> 00:05:20,470 or pessimistic about our prospects in this war 58 00:05:20,495 --> 00:05:21,848 and our ability to win it? 59 00:05:21,895 --> 00:05:23,747 Well, you asked whether I was optimistic or pessimistic. 60 00:05:23,809 --> 00:05:26,614 Today, I can tell you that military progress over the past 12 months 61 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:27,997 has exceeded our expectations. 62 00:05:28,022 --> 00:05:30,558 We're very encouraged by what we're seeing in Vietnam. 63 00:05:30,751 --> 00:05:32,344 In every respect, we're making progress. 64 00:05:32,938 --> 00:05:36,146 I'm especially pleased to have Bob Komer along for the trip-- 65 00:05:36,193 --> 00:05:37,935 so he can see for himself that we've been showing 66 00:05:38,013 --> 00:05:40,224 great improvement in every dimension of the war effort. 67 00:05:44,207 --> 00:05:45,176 Derrick. 68 00:06:53,758 --> 00:06:55,430 -Goodnight, Dan. -Goodnight, Dan. 69 00:06:55,516 --> 00:06:56,812 Night, guys. 70 00:07:02,430 --> 00:07:03,430 You okay, Dan? 71 00:07:05,727 --> 00:07:08,985 Yeah, yeah, I thought I'd, uh... forgot something. I didn't. 72 00:07:16,915 --> 00:07:18,626 Next left, on Melrose. 73 00:08:26,431 --> 00:08:27,604 We have committed ourselves 74 00:08:27,712 --> 00:08:30,627 to the cause of a just and peaceful world order 75 00:08:30,815 --> 00:08:32,213 through the United Nations. 76 00:08:32,462 --> 00:08:34,571 May 3rd, 1950. 77 00:08:34,704 --> 00:08:37,461 President Truman approved ten million dollars in military aid 78 00:08:37,486 --> 00:08:38,657 to Indochina. 79 00:08:45,356 --> 00:08:47,950 America's leadership and prestige depend 80 00:08:47,992 --> 00:08:50,210 on how we use our power 81 00:08:50,398 --> 00:08:52,625 in the interest of world peace. 82 00:08:52,673 --> 00:08:54,376 I feel concerned about paragraph six 83 00:08:54,415 --> 00:08:57,844 which gives authority to control general elections in Vietnam. 84 00:09:00,308 --> 00:09:02,457 The United States, as the world knows, 85 00:09:02,730 --> 00:09:04,347 will never start a war. 86 00:09:05,773 --> 00:09:07,569 May 11th, 1961. 87 00:09:07,718 --> 00:09:09,540 President Kennedy orders a full examination 88 00:09:09,587 --> 00:09:11,618 by the Defense Department of a possible commitment 89 00:09:11,643 --> 00:09:13,298 of U.S. forces to Vietnam. 90 00:09:18,051 --> 00:09:21,097 We are not about to send American boys 91 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,097 nine or ten thousand miles away from home 92 00:09:24,395 --> 00:09:28,395 to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves. 93 00:09:28,513 --> 00:09:30,919 President Johnson chose to reaffirm the Kennedy policy's 94 00:09:30,944 --> 00:09:34,325 military operation to be initiated under close political control. 95 00:10:20,748 --> 00:10:23,232 Can we just do the- can we do the numbers one- 96 00:10:23,257 --> 00:10:24,889 just one more time? 97 00:10:25,569 --> 00:10:27,366 The company's selling how many shares? 98 00:10:27,485 --> 00:10:29,876 1.35 million shares. 99 00:10:30,314 --> 00:10:31,478 And the price range is? 100 00:10:31,571 --> 00:10:35,470 Uh, between-between $24.50 and twenty-f--seven dollars per share. 101 00:10:35,564 --> 00:10:37,071 Not exactly a huge difference. 102 00:10:37,407 --> 00:10:41,117 For them but, you know, the bankers always do fiddle with the prices-- 103 00:10:41,196 --> 00:10:45,286 but for us, that's over three million dollars and that 104 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:49,501 represents over five years salary for 25 good reporters. 105 00:10:49,627 --> 00:10:51,985 Good. But why spend in the newsroom? 106 00:10:52,025 --> 00:10:55,431 You're far less profitable than Gannett or Knight and Ridder. 107 00:10:55,470 --> 00:10:59,928 Gannett and Knight and Ridder own monopoly papers in smaller cities 108 00:11:00,078 --> 00:11:02,586 and-and our readers are-are leaders, you know? 109 00:11:02,611 --> 00:11:04,258 they're-they're educated, they demand more. 110 00:11:04,305 --> 00:11:08,407 That's why we invest in really good reporters. 111 00:11:08,783 --> 00:11:10,265 -And so... -B-Because 112 00:11:10,290 --> 00:11:14,087 quality and-and profitability do go hand in hand. 113 00:11:15,712 --> 00:11:17,556 See? You know all this already. 114 00:11:17,665 --> 00:11:18,633 Oh, God! 115 00:11:18,829 --> 00:11:20,579 I don't know if I do. 116 00:11:20,686 --> 00:11:21,991 -I should get to breakfast. -Yeah. 117 00:11:22,016 --> 00:11:23,600 We don't want Paul or Arthur too antsy at this 118 00:11:23,678 --> 00:11:24,756 -No. -at the meeting. 119 00:11:24,842 --> 00:11:25,803 Good luck. 120 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:28,389 -And thank you, Fritz. -Mm-hmm. 121 00:11:29,982 --> 00:11:31,310 -See you downtown. -I'll see you. 122 00:11:31,373 --> 00:11:33,044 You think this is really necessary? 123 00:11:33,091 --> 00:11:34,958 Oh, God, yes, darling. 124 00:11:34,983 --> 00:11:37,841 You should hear how they talk at these meetings. 125 00:11:38,097 --> 00:11:39,855 It's as if it's in a foreign language. 126 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,714 No, I meant taking the company public. 127 00:11:47,057 --> 00:11:50,229 It seems we are...cash poor. 128 00:11:50,533 --> 00:11:52,033 You know, barely solvent. 129 00:11:52,094 --> 00:11:53,336 That's the newspaper business. 130 00:11:53,361 --> 00:11:55,086 That's our newspaper business. 131 00:11:55,133 --> 00:11:57,359 And we need the public offering to stay in business-- 132 00:11:57,438 --> 00:11:58,742 and to continue to grow. 133 00:11:59,203 --> 00:12:00,492 That's what Fritz says. 134 00:12:00,539 --> 00:12:04,188 And he also says that the family can maintain control if we... 135 00:12:05,787 --> 00:12:08,256 Anyway, I'm just not sure your grandfather would've wanted us 136 00:12:08,281 --> 00:12:09,928 to give up any control at all. 137 00:12:12,871 --> 00:12:13,785 Hello? 138 00:12:14,457 --> 00:12:16,527 -Mrs. Graham? -Yes, this is she. 139 00:12:16,949 --> 00:12:18,566 Please hold for the Chief of Staff. 140 00:12:20,542 --> 00:12:21,449 Who is it? 141 00:12:22,449 --> 00:12:23,370 Haldeman. 142 00:12:24,009 --> 00:12:26,853 -Mrs. Graham, Bob Haldeman. -Yes, hello. 143 00:12:27,158 --> 00:12:29,509 We've got a bit of an issue over here. 144 00:12:29,946 --> 00:12:30,947 Oh? 145 00:12:43,427 --> 00:12:44,403 Jesus. 146 00:12:45,003 --> 00:12:45,823 Oh. 147 00:12:45,971 --> 00:12:47,136 I'm so sorry. 148 00:12:47,891 --> 00:12:49,594 -Sorry, sorry, sorry. -Well, good morning. 149 00:12:49,703 --> 00:12:53,663 I'm so late. I had to get all this... stuff together and uh... 150 00:12:54,241 --> 00:12:56,655 then I had an unexpected call. 151 00:12:56,733 --> 00:12:58,772 Well, what is with the suitcase? 152 00:12:59,686 --> 00:13:01,397 Ben, I told you... 153 00:13:02,052 --> 00:13:03,841 this is the day, we're meeting with the bankers 154 00:13:03,905 --> 00:13:05,826 -Oh, yes, yes, right, right. -today, you know this. 155 00:13:05,899 --> 00:13:07,954 -Well, I bet you every dollar -Thank you. 156 00:13:08,001 --> 00:13:10,220 in my wallet that you are the only person in that boardroom 157 00:13:10,245 --> 00:13:12,423 who's read through all their nonsense. 158 00:13:12,448 --> 00:13:14,643 I'm probably the only one who needs to. 159 00:13:14,737 --> 00:13:17,340 What do you think of Neil Sheehan? 160 00:13:17,403 --> 00:13:21,942 Oh, gosh, his coverage of Vietnam is just absolutely marvelous. Why? 161 00:13:22,161 --> 00:13:24,934 You thinking of trying to steal him from The Times? 162 00:13:24,967 --> 00:13:26,192 I'm not sure we can afford him. 163 00:13:26,263 --> 00:13:29,520 He, uh, he hasn't had a piece in three months. 164 00:13:29,662 --> 00:13:30,435 Oh? 165 00:13:31,006 --> 00:13:32,521 You think he's onto something? 166 00:13:32,982 --> 00:13:35,420 Well, I saw Abe at a dinner party last week 167 00:13:35,445 --> 00:13:38,045 and he was looking mighty, mighty smug. 168 00:13:39,021 --> 00:13:40,201 Isn't he always? 169 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:43,453 -So who was it? -Who was what? 170 00:13:43,601 --> 00:13:45,172 Your unexpected call. 171 00:13:45,688 --> 00:13:46,485 Oh. 172 00:13:47,203 --> 00:13:48,445 I buried the lead. 173 00:13:48,899 --> 00:13:50,235 The White House. 174 00:13:50,821 --> 00:13:52,727 -Haldeman rang. -Yeah? 175 00:13:52,830 --> 00:13:55,049 It seems the President has decided 176 00:13:55,089 --> 00:13:57,460 not to provide Judith with credentials 177 00:13:57,485 --> 00:13:58,944 to cover the Nixon wedding. 178 00:13:59,038 --> 00:14:00,921 -Oh, Jesus Christ. -Yeah. 179 00:14:00,999 --> 00:14:03,218 They said we could send another reporter. 180 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:04,382 Oh, yeah? 181 00:14:04,442 --> 00:14:06,747 -Can't believe that. -I know. 182 00:14:06,881 --> 00:14:08,360 -I know, but don't... -Jesus. 183 00:14:08,431 --> 00:14:09,134 But what? 184 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:11,208 I'm not sure I entirely blame the President 185 00:14:11,233 --> 00:14:12,759 -on this one, Dan. -No? 186 00:14:12,849 --> 00:14:15,318 Would you want Judith to cover your daughter's wedding? 187 00:14:15,411 --> 00:14:16,935 Well, my daughter's only ten years old. 188 00:14:16,981 --> 00:14:20,301 I think she burned her bridges when she crashed Julie's reception. 189 00:14:20,419 --> 00:14:22,387 -They're being punitive. -Her pen is so sharp. 190 00:14:22,412 --> 00:14:23,662 -Of course it's punitive. -This is punitive. 191 00:14:23,717 --> 00:14:24,857 Of course it's punitive. 192 00:14:26,118 --> 00:14:30,063 She compared Tricia Nixon to a vanilla ice cream cone. 193 00:14:30,118 --> 00:14:32,064 -She did, yeah. -Yeah. 194 00:14:32,456 --> 00:14:34,253 I mean, why would her father want Judy 195 00:14:34,278 --> 00:14:35,769 to cover his daughter's wedding? 196 00:14:35,831 --> 00:14:38,167 -Oh, come on. -I just... 197 00:14:38,894 --> 00:14:42,141 Are you sure we're striking the right tone here, Dan? 198 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:43,618 Oh, we're gonna do this again? 199 00:14:43,643 --> 00:14:46,645 No, the new Style section, sometimes the 200 00:14:46,699 --> 00:14:48,660 -stiletto party coverage -I'm handling it. 201 00:14:48,685 --> 00:14:50,050 -can be a little mean. -I'm handling it. 202 00:14:50,135 --> 00:14:51,589 -I'm looking for a new editor. -Yes. 203 00:14:51,614 --> 00:14:54,673 Are you? Because I know I've talked to you about this before. 204 00:14:54,848 --> 00:14:57,926 You are losing female readership, you know, and I think 205 00:14:58,550 --> 00:15:01,277 I think you might wanna focus more on what women-- 206 00:15:01,308 --> 00:15:03,535 Katharine, keep your finger out of my eye. 207 00:15:11,314 --> 00:15:12,462 You... 208 00:15:15,538 --> 00:15:17,217 These breakfasts were your idea, you know. 209 00:15:17,256 --> 00:15:19,225 Ah, yes, yes, and you are the publisher 210 00:15:19,311 --> 00:15:21,842 and you are my boss and I uh... 211 00:15:21,878 --> 00:15:25,167 I value the input but I-I-I heard you the first three times. 212 00:15:25,192 --> 00:15:27,706 You know, I just think that there might be another way 213 00:15:27,796 --> 00:15:30,186 that we could cool it with the White House, 214 00:15:30,226 --> 00:15:33,507 maybe we could just send somebody else, you know? 215 00:15:33,616 --> 00:15:34,842 -Nope, nope, nope. -Because it is 216 00:15:34,905 --> 00:15:36,327 I'm not gonna send another reporter. 217 00:15:36,351 --> 00:15:39,255 not hard news, Ben, it's just a wedding. 218 00:15:39,319 --> 00:15:41,179 It's not just a wedding, it's... 219 00:15:41,249 --> 00:15:43,541 It's the wedding of the daughter of the President of the United States. 220 00:15:43,566 --> 00:15:45,509 -Let that girl have her day. -We can't have them-- 221 00:15:45,569 --> 00:15:48,181 an administration dictating to us our coverage 222 00:15:48,206 --> 00:15:49,483 just because they don't like 223 00:15:49,508 --> 00:15:51,789 what we print about them in our newspaper. 224 00:15:56,832 --> 00:15:59,465 I wonder if Abe cares so passionately about 225 00:15:59,565 --> 00:16:01,401 who covers the wedding for his paper. 226 00:16:01,441 --> 00:16:02,386 Well, I don't give a rat's ass 227 00:16:02,433 --> 00:16:04,722 what Abe or anybody at the New York Times cares about. 228 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:06,261 Not true, I give one rat's ass. 229 00:16:06,611 --> 00:16:09,361 One retromingent rat's ass. 230 00:16:39,323 --> 00:16:40,901 Tell 'em it's from Sheehan. 231 00:16:41,311 --> 00:16:42,428 Don't walk. 232 00:17:09,943 --> 00:17:11,060 It's from Sheehan. 233 00:17:18,084 --> 00:17:20,076 Abe, here it is. 234 00:17:37,037 --> 00:17:40,513 Okay, Roder's got Nixon working on a second term. 235 00:17:40,538 --> 00:17:44,106 Osles has something on G.I.s buying heroin in Saigon, but 236 00:17:44,223 --> 00:17:47,591 Ryder's got a rocket on the FBI list of potential subversives. 237 00:17:47,654 --> 00:17:50,904 Ah, save it for the afternoon, I need Chal and Judith. 238 00:17:51,075 --> 00:17:52,123 Judith! 239 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,472 Is that real--a subversives list? 240 00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:56,956 Oh, yeah, Hoover at Justice keep a copy. 241 00:17:57,003 --> 00:17:58,315 Thousands of names. 242 00:17:58,348 --> 00:17:59,939 Geyelin heard the White House is shutting Judith out. 243 00:17:59,964 --> 00:18:00,934 Yeah, I'm workin' on that. 244 00:18:00,959 --> 00:18:02,190 We think editorial should run something. 245 00:18:02,215 --> 00:18:04,176 I just heard somebody say they're workin' on that. 246 00:18:04,201 --> 00:18:05,654 Well, if the White House is gonna take a stance like that, 247 00:18:05,709 --> 00:18:07,748 don't you think we should plant a flag? 248 00:18:10,855 --> 00:18:14,550 Did you see Sheehan at the Kissinger press conference? 249 00:18:14,683 --> 00:18:15,433 No. 250 00:18:16,019 --> 00:18:17,425 What about the Al Haig thing? 251 00:18:17,621 --> 00:18:19,269 No, Times sent the new kid. 252 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:21,359 New kid. 253 00:18:21,804 --> 00:18:23,476 You think Sheehan's onto something. 254 00:18:24,023 --> 00:18:24,968 Yeah. 255 00:18:25,695 --> 00:18:28,015 Well, Neil has been known to disappear, 256 00:18:28,088 --> 00:18:30,362 No, no, no, I'm telling you he has something. 257 00:18:30,885 --> 00:18:32,572 You want me to do a little digging? 258 00:18:33,091 --> 00:18:35,489 No, that's below your pay grade. 259 00:18:35,778 --> 00:18:36,840 Intern! 260 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,576 You uh, workin' on anything important, chief? 261 00:18:40,654 --> 00:18:42,162 Uh, no, Mr. Bradlee. 262 00:18:43,341 --> 00:18:46,247 Well, everything we do is important...at The Post. 263 00:18:46,364 --> 00:18:48,145 Here's $40, I want you to take the first train 264 00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:50,044 up to New York and go to the-- 265 00:18:50,231 --> 00:18:53,043 go to The Times building on 43rd- don't tell 'em who you work for 266 00:18:53,106 --> 00:18:55,903 but find a reporter by the name of Sheehan. 267 00:18:55,981 --> 00:18:57,294 Uh, Neil Sheehan? 268 00:18:57,458 --> 00:19:01,927 Yeah, yeah, find out what Neil Sheehan is workin' on. 269 00:19:02,911 --> 00:19:04,161 Is that legal? 270 00:19:05,045 --> 00:19:07,638 Well, what is it you think we do here for a living, kid? 271 00:19:08,566 --> 00:19:10,457 -Get a receipt for the tickets. -Yeah. 272 00:19:26,887 --> 00:19:29,192 -Morning, Mrs. Graham. -Morning. 273 00:19:33,354 --> 00:19:35,096 Hello, morning everybody. 274 00:19:35,362 --> 00:19:36,407 -Morning, nice to see you. -Mrs. Graham. 275 00:19:36,432 --> 00:19:37,823 -Morning. -Morning, Arthur. 276 00:19:39,371 --> 00:19:40,246 Hello. 277 00:19:43,482 --> 00:19:45,045 So, everyone's here. 278 00:19:45,326 --> 00:19:47,459 -How are you--my Galahad? -Morning. 279 00:19:48,263 --> 00:19:49,185 Thank you. 280 00:20:00,432 --> 00:20:03,917 And I used to be the only one who brought his homework to class. 281 00:20:06,604 --> 00:20:08,363 I think we're all here, should we get started? 282 00:20:09,045 --> 00:20:11,208 Didn't you crash the wedding of Nixon's 283 00:20:11,233 --> 00:20:13,123 other daughter to get a story? 284 00:20:13,148 --> 00:20:15,795 Well, I did get a story, but I didn't crash Julie's wedding. 285 00:20:15,859 --> 00:20:17,529 No, no, just the reception afterwards. 286 00:20:17,577 --> 00:20:18,764 There is a distinction. 287 00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:20,921 Not to the father of the bride, he's paying for play. 288 00:20:21,032 --> 00:20:23,273 I think the American people are paying for play. 289 00:20:23,298 --> 00:20:24,727 Great, let's do a story about that. 290 00:20:24,752 --> 00:20:26,728 -Yeah, let's-- -Judith should crash again. 291 00:20:26,805 --> 00:20:28,594 I didn't crash Julie's wedding. 292 00:20:28,649 --> 00:20:29,766 What would you call it, Judith? 293 00:20:29,797 --> 00:20:31,797 Well, I would call it depth reportage. 294 00:20:31,822 --> 00:20:33,114 All right, come on, come on, everybody. 295 00:20:33,139 --> 00:20:35,880 How are we gonna cover this Nixon-Cox wedding? 296 00:20:40,467 --> 00:20:42,459 Uh, who else is gonna be there? 297 00:20:42,498 --> 00:20:44,170 -Oh, here. -Judith's got the guest list. 298 00:20:44,195 --> 00:20:46,154 No, I mean the other press? 299 00:20:46,193 --> 00:20:48,879 Well, The Times, The Sun, The Globe, all the international papers. 300 00:20:48,904 --> 00:20:49,873 All right. 301 00:20:50,662 --> 00:20:53,146 So, we-we-we call them, 302 00:20:53,171 --> 00:20:55,185 we call all of them and uh, 303 00:20:55,427 --> 00:20:58,036 we say Nixon has shut us out 304 00:20:58,061 --> 00:21:00,263 and then we ask them for their notes. 305 00:21:00,995 --> 00:21:03,339 Ben, there's no way in hell anyone's gonna give me a fill. 306 00:21:03,364 --> 00:21:06,160 No, they'll...i-it'll be an act of solidarity-- 307 00:21:06,185 --> 00:21:08,363 they'll be defending the first amendment. 308 00:21:08,772 --> 00:21:12,310 We'll tell them that the only way to protect the right to publish 309 00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:13,679 is to publish. 310 00:21:19,670 --> 00:21:23,920 I don't understand, you said we'd set the price at $27. 311 00:21:23,959 --> 00:21:25,475 No, we said there was a range. 312 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:27,929 and the demand on the road show us soft. 313 00:21:28,214 --> 00:21:31,503 Why not set it at $26? Or 25 even? 314 00:21:31,571 --> 00:21:33,094 Well, Paul, we feel that setting the price at 315 00:21:33,196 --> 00:21:35,423 24.50 would be more prudent. 316 00:21:35,493 --> 00:21:36,461 It's just a couple of bucks. 317 00:21:36,486 --> 00:21:41,462 It's not just a couple of bucks, it's 1.35 million shares... 318 00:21:41,855 --> 00:21:43,535 so, it is... 319 00:21:44,967 --> 00:21:46,490 Th-Three million. 320 00:21:47,028 --> 00:21:51,121 Over three million dollars less--that's a lot to a newspaper. 321 00:21:51,192 --> 00:21:53,348 I mean, how many reporters is that? 322 00:21:53,432 --> 00:21:55,885 -It's-It's twenty-five-- -Let's not get bogged down... 323 00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:58,783 -It has to be quite a few. -At least a dozen. Fritz? 324 00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:02,062 It's uh, twenty-five reporters-- 325 00:22:02,087 --> 00:22:03,906 Twenty-five reporters? 326 00:22:04,172 --> 00:22:05,414 Twenty-five reporters. 327 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,430 Gentlemen, we know it's not ideal, 328 00:22:07,455 --> 00:22:11,687 but a few of our investors balked at the nature of the company. 329 00:22:11,996 --> 00:22:13,301 They don't like newspapers? 330 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:15,434 They like Gannett and Knight and Ridder 331 00:22:15,504 --> 00:22:17,113 but...frankly they're concerned about 332 00:22:17,184 --> 00:22:19,504 your ability to turn a serious profit. 333 00:22:33,664 --> 00:22:34,983 Gannett and Knight and Ridder 334 00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:37,007 own monopoly papers in smaller markets 335 00:22:37,054 --> 00:22:38,773 -that's why they're more profitable. -Mmm. 336 00:22:39,273 --> 00:22:42,320 The whole point of the offering is to grow-- 337 00:22:42,437 --> 00:22:44,444 while investing in the quality of the paper. 338 00:22:44,507 --> 00:22:47,648 Kay and I have talked a great deal about this. 339 00:22:48,031 --> 00:22:50,874 And we believe that improving quality 340 00:22:50,922 --> 00:22:54,195 will naturally lead to greater profitability. 341 00:22:56,341 --> 00:22:59,192 -Unfortunate. -More than unfortunate. 342 00:22:59,596 --> 00:23:02,893 Does this happen all the time? Bankers lowering the price 343 00:23:02,971 --> 00:23:06,260 for their institutional investors? Fritz, isn't this what we discussed? 344 00:23:06,285 --> 00:23:08,533 I think the family should consider giving up some control-- 345 00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:09,831 maybe another board seat. 346 00:23:09,864 --> 00:23:10,917 Absolutely not. 347 00:23:10,964 --> 00:23:13,550 This isn't a surprise, Fritz-- ever since Phil's accident. 348 00:23:13,591 --> 00:23:14,402 Arthur. 349 00:23:14,478 --> 00:23:17,142 No offense, Kay, it's unfortunate but... 350 00:23:17,167 --> 00:23:20,142 The buyers are obviously skittish about having a woman in charge 351 00:23:20,167 --> 00:23:22,432 and it's-it's not like it's an easy sell-- 352 00:23:22,457 --> 00:23:25,265 it's a local paper with modest margins, modest ambitions. 353 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,156 I think Mr. Bradlee would take issue with that characterization. 354 00:23:28,234 --> 00:23:29,649 Sure, she pads his budget. 355 00:23:29,719 --> 00:23:33,054 Amelia, call my office, tell them I'm gonna miss my lunch at Occidental. 356 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,046 Of course, Mr. Parsons. 357 00:23:34,071 --> 00:23:35,672 Another dozen reporters for what? 358 00:23:35,697 --> 00:23:37,211 To nip at the heels of The Times? 359 00:23:37,236 --> 00:23:40,555 So we can pretend like we're even remotely in the same league? 360 00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:42,854 Make it a 5:00 drink at The Jefferson. 361 00:23:42,953 --> 00:23:45,009 Arthur, Kay was right, Lazard is just trying to 362 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,148 -Come on. -cut a better deal by squeezing us. 363 00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:49,219 -Why do you think that is? -Because they're bankers 364 00:23:49,244 --> 00:23:51,484 which is why they want more control. 365 00:23:51,509 --> 00:23:53,851 They want assurances that she's not gonna squander it all. 366 00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:54,912 I mean, come on. 367 00:23:55,109 --> 00:23:57,445 Fritz, Kay throws a great party, 368 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,031 but her father gave the paper to her husband. 369 00:24:00,484 --> 00:24:03,656 The only reason she's running things is because he-because... 370 00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:05,351 Phil died. 371 00:24:05,875 --> 00:24:09,359 Don't get me wrong, I think she is a lovely woman. 372 00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:13,408 But she got rid of Al Friendly and brought in a pirate 373 00:24:13,564 --> 00:24:15,595 who does nothing but bleed our margins. 374 00:24:15,666 --> 00:24:18,377 I mean, you can't be surprised that the buyers are concerned 375 00:24:18,424 --> 00:24:21,830 that she doesn't have the resolve to turn a serious profit. 376 00:24:26,924 --> 00:24:28,658 Kay, it's your decision. 377 00:24:29,377 --> 00:24:30,775 But in my opinion, 378 00:24:30,845 --> 00:24:33,580 if you want this to be more than a little family paper, 379 00:24:33,605 --> 00:24:36,798 it has to be more than a little family business. 380 00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:42,683 Thank you, Arthur, for your frankness. 381 00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:45,222 All right. 382 00:24:46,927 --> 00:24:49,466 -We're set? -All set, Mr. Parsons. 383 00:24:52,402 --> 00:24:53,363 Accident. 384 00:24:55,723 --> 00:24:56,574 I... 385 00:24:57,183 --> 00:24:58,684 It wasn't an accident. 386 00:25:00,035 --> 00:25:02,332 Phil's suicide--I don't know why 387 00:25:02,817 --> 00:25:05,395 people insist on calling it an accident. 388 00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:09,129 Is it to make them feel better? 389 00:25:10,410 --> 00:25:11,988 Or do they think they're... 390 00:25:12,738 --> 00:25:15,535 being kind? I don't know. I don't know. 391 00:25:16,569 --> 00:25:18,444 So, do you think I should 392 00:25:18,569 --> 00:25:20,686 give up more seats on the board? 393 00:25:21,543 --> 00:25:22,926 Of course not. 394 00:25:24,598 --> 00:25:26,285 We're going to be fine. 395 00:25:26,832 --> 00:25:27,644 Hmm. 396 00:25:28,372 --> 00:25:30,051 This passage... 397 00:25:30,473 --> 00:25:34,411 in the prospectus that I-- I read it earlier today. 398 00:25:37,137 --> 00:25:38,622 The uh, oh, yes... 399 00:25:40,356 --> 00:25:42,801 "In the unlikely instance of disaster 400 00:25:42,833 --> 00:25:45,277 "or catastrophic event in the week 401 00:25:45,336 --> 00:25:47,516 "following the initial public offering, 402 00:25:47,693 --> 00:25:51,646 "Lazard Freres & Co. retains full right to cancel the issue." 403 00:25:51,731 --> 00:25:53,146 It's boiler plate, Kay. 404 00:25:53,248 --> 00:25:55,561 It's standard contractual language. 405 00:25:56,498 --> 00:26:00,600 Uh...but, so, that bankers could pull out? 406 00:26:01,179 --> 00:26:03,242 Only if there's a true disaster. 407 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:05,870 Ben gets hit by a truck... 408 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:09,495 the world runs out of newspaper ink... 409 00:26:10,734 --> 00:26:14,001 the...truck goes around the block and hits Ben again... 410 00:26:15,586 --> 00:26:16,937 You think one of those is possible. 411 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:19,135 I don't but, you know. 412 00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:22,408 The Nixon White House is nothing if not vindictive. 413 00:26:22,461 --> 00:26:23,899 Just this morning, 414 00:26:23,985 --> 00:26:26,953 they barred us from covering Tricia Nixon's wedding. 415 00:26:27,389 --> 00:26:30,741 Somehow, I doubt that will rise to the level of catastrophe. 416 00:26:30,766 --> 00:26:33,264 No, probably not--although, 417 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,945 when Ben sets his mind to plunder, 418 00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:39,008 it's not hard to imagine something more serious. 419 00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:43,056 Catastrophic events... 420 00:26:44,330 --> 00:26:45,814 do occur, you know. 421 00:26:45,896 --> 00:26:49,200 Yeah, but the right to cancel is only for a week. 422 00:26:50,013 --> 00:26:52,060 A week from the public offering. 423 00:26:53,357 --> 00:26:56,357 Seven days after they ring that bell on Tuesday, 424 00:26:56,802 --> 00:26:58,505 the deal is done. 425 00:26:58,972 --> 00:26:59,886 Hm. 426 00:27:01,523 --> 00:27:03,171 It's gonna be fine, Kay. 427 00:27:30,644 --> 00:27:32,342 Do you know what floor the newsroom's on? 428 00:27:32,921 --> 00:27:33,843 Five. 429 00:27:34,148 --> 00:27:36,390 Uh, no, no, no, six, yeah, six. 430 00:27:50,645 --> 00:27:52,653 You think that he's not beneath Pakistan? 431 00:27:52,701 --> 00:27:56,435 Well, five million refugees could destabilize West Bengal. 432 00:27:56,582 --> 00:27:58,730 So, Lindsay's lowering the boom tomorrow. 433 00:27:58,816 --> 00:28:00,519 How's he gonna cut a hundred million? 434 00:28:00,595 --> 00:28:03,095 There's gonna be some blood on the floor of a greasy mansion. 435 00:28:05,251 --> 00:28:07,539 I heard the mayors gave it to Nixon in Philly. 436 00:28:07,576 --> 00:28:09,086 Yeah, I told you those guys are violent. 437 00:28:09,126 --> 00:28:10,399 Take a look at this. 438 00:28:10,925 --> 00:28:12,831 You guys see that piece on the hijacking? 439 00:28:13,456 --> 00:28:15,191 You think six pages is enough? 440 00:28:15,562 --> 00:28:18,468 We got three columns on the front page. I'll take it. 441 00:28:18,552 --> 00:28:20,146 -On the flight? -The flight. 442 00:28:20,732 --> 00:28:21,927 Can I help you, mac? 443 00:28:22,972 --> 00:28:24,847 Just delivering a package to Mr. Mietson. 444 00:28:25,274 --> 00:28:27,407 Maston, I'll see that he gets it. 445 00:28:28,994 --> 00:28:30,932 I knew a couple 446 00:28:31,471 --> 00:28:34,088 whose yacht was shipwrecked in the South Pacific. 447 00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:35,557 Hold on, quiet, quiet. 448 00:28:35,684 --> 00:28:38,716 I know a couple whose yacht was shipwrecked in the South Pacific. 449 00:28:38,997 --> 00:28:41,481 It looks bleak, so the man asks, 450 00:28:41,542 --> 00:28:43,487 "Does the will take care of the kids?" 451 00:28:43,606 --> 00:28:45,778 his wife nods. "What about your mother?" 452 00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:48,255 Yes. Okay. 453 00:28:48,473 --> 00:28:49,919 "Did we donate to Nixon?" 454 00:28:50,552 --> 00:28:52,458 His wife shakes her head. Yes. 455 00:28:53,325 --> 00:28:55,427 "Did we pledge or give?" 456 00:28:56,067 --> 00:28:57,052 "We pledged." 457 00:28:57,317 --> 00:28:59,395 "Thank God!", shouts the man. "Nixon'll find us." 458 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:00,427 "We're saved!" 459 00:29:05,066 --> 00:29:07,426 Speaking of Nixon, I just talked to Kissinger 460 00:29:07,451 --> 00:29:10,121 who was going on about the end of the China embargo. 461 00:29:10,325 --> 00:29:12,880 He's convinced it's a rather clever geo-political move. 462 00:29:13,014 --> 00:29:15,186 Oh, I think this is our cue, ladies. 463 00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:17,795 Someone at this table of luminaries 464 00:29:17,865 --> 00:29:19,678 must have an idea what they're up to. 465 00:29:19,719 --> 00:29:21,805 I wonder what his buddy Joe McCarthy would say. 466 00:29:21,883 --> 00:29:25,633 The new Style section did a lovely piece on Lawrence Durrell. 467 00:29:25,658 --> 00:29:28,399 Well, it's about time Style had a good piece. 468 00:29:28,444 --> 00:29:30,098 I think it's a bit improved. 469 00:29:30,123 --> 00:29:32,592 I hear he's at work on another series of novels. 470 00:29:32,632 --> 00:29:35,726 I hear he's at work on finding a fourth wife. 471 00:29:35,751 --> 00:29:37,141 I will say, he's one of the few individuals who could 472 00:29:37,166 --> 00:29:38,943 probably cozy up to communist China 473 00:29:39,006 --> 00:29:40,733 without fear of major political cost. 474 00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:43,639 Ah, but is Nixon that smart? He never laughed at one of my jokes. 475 00:29:45,847 --> 00:29:47,839 Oh, Kay, I don't know how you do it. 476 00:29:47,864 --> 00:29:49,997 I don't know how you keep up with it over here-- 477 00:29:50,122 --> 00:29:51,669 Have this day job. 478 00:29:51,739 --> 00:29:53,028 -Oh! -Well. 479 00:29:53,081 --> 00:29:54,294 You need to read her book. 480 00:29:54,418 --> 00:29:56,620 Kay, can I have--just a word? 481 00:29:57,864 --> 00:29:59,520 Did you get a chance to read his-- 482 00:29:59,615 --> 00:30:00,559 Um. 483 00:30:02,225 --> 00:30:03,639 Everything all right? 484 00:30:03,762 --> 00:30:05,996 -Marg okay? -Yeah, she's- she's fine. 485 00:30:06,084 --> 00:30:07,709 The procedure went very well. 486 00:30:07,748 --> 00:30:08,998 Oh, good, I've been meaning to... 487 00:30:09,061 --> 00:30:10,201 I, uh... 488 00:30:10,975 --> 00:30:14,123 I wanted to tell you and I want you to hear from me first. 489 00:30:14,186 --> 00:30:16,255 There's an article about me 490 00:30:16,358 --> 00:30:18,584 coming out in The Times tomorrow. 491 00:30:19,678 --> 00:30:21,412 It's not flattering. 492 00:30:22,748 --> 00:30:24,349 Running...me? 493 00:30:24,443 --> 00:30:26,419 Now you know me better than that. 494 00:30:26,512 --> 00:30:28,223 Three days and three nights and not a word from you. 495 00:30:28,248 --> 00:30:29,575 Well, I've been very busy. 496 00:30:29,774 --> 00:30:31,365 For all I knew, you were lying in the gutter somewhere 497 00:30:31,390 --> 00:30:32,828 with a knife in your back. 498 00:30:33,352 --> 00:30:34,672 Lying in the gutter? 499 00:30:35,883 --> 00:30:38,204 Now, look, sweetheart, I'll tell ya what happened. 500 00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:41,055 I was in Birmingham. 501 00:30:42,358 --> 00:30:43,217 Hello. 502 00:30:43,483 --> 00:30:44,631 Hello, Ben. 503 00:30:45,522 --> 00:30:46,443 Hello, Katharine. 504 00:30:46,468 --> 00:30:49,163 I'm sorry to bother you so late, but listen. 505 00:30:49,476 --> 00:30:52,827 Were you able to make any headway with Mr. Sheehan? 506 00:30:53,405 --> 00:30:55,855 No, no, no. I haven't. 507 00:30:55,942 --> 00:30:59,982 I just had an odd conversation with Bob McNamara. 508 00:31:00,007 --> 00:31:04,326 And...I think The Times may have a big story tomorrow. 509 00:31:04,873 --> 00:31:06,686 Ah, dammit. 510 00:31:06,795 --> 00:31:09,194 You know, he wouldn't give me any details, but 511 00:31:09,334 --> 00:31:14,538 Bob said it was quite... detrimental to him that-- 512 00:31:36,139 --> 00:31:37,139 Ben. 513 00:31:38,170 --> 00:31:39,084 We got 'em. 514 00:31:39,693 --> 00:31:40,670 We got 'em. 515 00:31:41,527 --> 00:31:42,605 -Ah. -Ah? 516 00:31:42,636 --> 00:31:44,111 -Yeah, quite good. -The happy couple? 517 00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:45,860 -Hey! Chief! -Mr. Bradlee. 518 00:31:45,939 --> 00:31:48,126 So, did you track down Sheehan? 519 00:31:48,195 --> 00:31:51,710 No, but I saw a mock up of tomorrow's front page. 520 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,023 There's a big gap. 521 00:31:54,445 --> 00:31:56,179 Nothing there but the name. 522 00:32:00,606 --> 00:32:01,411 Shit. 523 00:32:01,974 --> 00:32:02,677 Shit. 524 00:32:03,779 --> 00:32:04,818 Shit! 525 00:32:13,134 --> 00:32:14,970 -Give us three. -Here you go, here you go, here. 526 00:32:15,173 --> 00:32:17,447 Here, here, here, here. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 527 00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:19,478 Thanks, got it. 528 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,003 General Haig, sir. 529 00:32:27,294 --> 00:32:28,669 -Hi, Al. -Yes, sir. 530 00:32:28,694 --> 00:32:30,356 How, uh, what about the casualties list-- 531 00:32:30,381 --> 00:32:31,560 you got that figure yet? 532 00:32:31,592 --> 00:32:34,303 No, sir, but I think it's gonna be quite low, uh... 533 00:32:34,980 --> 00:32:37,448 Fine. Okay. 534 00:32:37,550 --> 00:32:39,136 Nothing else of interest in the world? 535 00:32:39,214 --> 00:32:41,714 Yes, sir, very significant this uh, 536 00:32:41,768 --> 00:32:45,049 goddamn New York Times expos� of 537 00:32:45,158 --> 00:32:48,353 the most highly-classified documents of the war. 538 00:32:48,498 --> 00:32:50,865 You mean that-that was leaked out of the Pentagon? 539 00:32:50,943 --> 00:32:54,880 The-the whole study that was done for McNamara. 540 00:32:55,231 --> 00:32:59,521 This is a devastating, uh, security breach of 541 00:32:59,606 --> 00:33:01,018 of the greatest magnitude of anything 542 00:33:01,043 --> 00:33:02,099 -I've ever seen -Well... 543 00:33:02,124 --> 00:33:04,130 Well, what, uh, what's being done about it, then? 544 00:33:04,191 --> 00:33:05,800 -I... -Did we know this was coming out? 545 00:33:05,855 --> 00:33:07,362 No, we did not, sir. 546 00:33:07,603 --> 00:33:09,103 I have Dr. Kissinger. 547 00:33:09,128 --> 00:33:11,658 Uh, Henry, that thing to me is just unconscionable-- 548 00:33:11,683 --> 00:33:13,128 this is treasonable action 549 00:33:13,153 --> 00:33:15,308 on the part of the bastards that put it out. 550 00:33:16,285 --> 00:33:17,887 I'm absolutely certain 551 00:33:18,097 --> 00:33:21,613 that this violates all sorts of security...laws-- 552 00:33:21,676 --> 00:33:24,231 People have got to be put to the torch for this sort of thing. 553 00:33:26,856 --> 00:33:27,801 Christ! 554 00:33:27,826 --> 00:33:30,341 McNamara knew we couldn't win in '65-- 555 00:33:30,366 --> 00:33:32,879 that's six goddamn years ago. 556 00:33:35,943 --> 00:33:37,661 Well, at least we got the wedding. 557 00:33:40,415 --> 00:33:43,477 Is anybody else tired or reading the news instead of reporting it? 558 00:33:44,477 --> 00:33:45,782 Do we have any leads? 559 00:33:45,807 --> 00:33:47,188 There's a guy Phil and I know in Boston 560 00:33:47,213 --> 00:33:49,555 who worked at Defense when McNamara commissioned the study. 561 00:33:49,649 --> 00:33:51,001 All right, call him. 562 00:33:51,508 --> 00:33:52,547 Anybody else? 563 00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:54,328 So that's it? 564 00:33:55,196 --> 00:33:57,797 My best goddamn lead is coming from editorial? 565 00:33:58,852 --> 00:34:01,329 We are suckin' high tit in our own backyard. 566 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,305 Ben, come on, it's one story. 567 00:34:03,334 --> 00:34:06,810 No, it's 7,000 pages detailing how the White House 568 00:34:06,907 --> 00:34:09,211 has been lying about the Vietnam war for 30 years. 569 00:34:09,236 --> 00:34:11,548 It's Truman and Eisenhower and... 570 00:34:11,587 --> 00:34:12,993 Jack... 571 00:34:13,344 --> 00:34:16,024 LBJ lying--lying about 572 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,484 Vietnam--and you think that's one story? 573 00:34:19,988 --> 00:34:21,746 Let's do our jobs. 574 00:34:23,332 --> 00:34:24,832 Find those pages. 575 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:30,433 Ben, uh... 576 00:34:30,886 --> 00:34:33,941 I might...have something... maybe. 577 00:34:33,966 --> 00:34:36,712 Well, let me know when it's a little less...wishy-washy. 578 00:34:36,751 --> 00:34:39,501 I'm gonna go chase down a lead of my own. 579 00:34:44,139 --> 00:34:45,920 Why don't you cut your bangs? 580 00:34:45,951 --> 00:34:47,240 -Mummy, -Just a little bit. 581 00:34:47,265 --> 00:34:48,662 I'm right in the middle. 582 00:34:54,503 --> 00:34:56,901 It's a bit hard to read, isn't it? 583 00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:59,182 Harder for you, I imagine. 584 00:35:00,001 --> 00:35:01,243 No. 585 00:35:01,704 --> 00:35:02,774 Why? 586 00:35:03,813 --> 00:35:06,438 These were your people--McNamara? 587 00:35:06,969 --> 00:35:09,226 And Kennedy and Johnson. 588 00:35:09,289 --> 00:35:11,414 Jack and Lyndon were your father's friends. 589 00:35:11,439 --> 00:35:14,009 You flew down to Texas with Lyndon the weekend after his convention. 590 00:35:14,034 --> 00:35:16,337 Well, that's your fault, you wanted to see his helicopter. 591 00:35:16,362 --> 00:35:18,854 And the instant he saw you, he invited you to the ranch. 592 00:35:18,879 --> 00:35:21,128 Oh, well, he just wanted the paper to endorse-- 593 00:35:21,153 --> 00:35:24,347 Yes, but my point is, you had Steve and Bill waiting at home 594 00:35:24,417 --> 00:35:25,604 -who had houseguests -I know. 595 00:35:25,629 --> 00:35:26,987 waiting at the farm. 596 00:35:27,074 --> 00:35:28,629 You had nothing but dirty clothes in your suitcase. 597 00:35:28,654 --> 00:35:30,340 How do you know what I had in my suitcase? 598 00:35:30,407 --> 00:35:32,078 Jumped on Air Force Once, spent the weekend-- 599 00:35:32,102 --> 00:35:33,930 -I did not jump, you and -swimming and 600 00:35:33,955 --> 00:35:35,337 Livvie Pearce and said "I had to go!" 601 00:35:35,362 --> 00:35:37,251 speedboating with Lyndon and Lady Bird. 602 00:35:42,892 --> 00:35:44,291 It's hard to say... 603 00:35:45,422 --> 00:35:48,150 no to the President of the United States. 604 00:35:53,164 --> 00:35:54,711 Were you expecting someone? 605 00:35:55,227 --> 00:35:56,406 At this hour? 606 00:36:01,922 --> 00:36:04,196 I hope I'm not too early. 607 00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:06,684 Not at all, must be urgent. 608 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,801 Where's your sister? 609 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,380 It's mine too, darling. 610 00:36:12,701 --> 00:36:14,123 Where's your sister? 611 00:36:14,498 --> 00:36:15,388 Let's go find her. 612 00:36:20,066 --> 00:36:22,081 I trust you saw the New York Times. 613 00:36:23,023 --> 00:36:23,890 Hmm. 614 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:26,015 The study--the-the one they're working off 615 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,914 that was commissioned by McNamara. 616 00:36:28,047 --> 00:36:28,843 Yeah. 617 00:36:28,868 --> 00:36:30,937 And if he commissioned it, he might have a copy. 618 00:36:36,547 --> 00:36:39,243 I need to tell you that finding a source 619 00:36:39,268 --> 00:36:40,884 is like finding a needle in a haystack. 620 00:36:40,909 --> 00:36:42,111 I don't need the metaphor. 621 00:36:42,136 --> 00:36:43,397 I haven't been a writer for a while 622 00:36:43,422 --> 00:36:45,072 so that old clich�-- that was the best comparison 623 00:36:45,097 --> 00:36:46,782 I could come up with. 624 00:36:48,391 --> 00:36:50,298 I need a copy of that study, Kay. 625 00:36:52,727 --> 00:36:53,805 Give her the ball, Ben. 626 00:36:53,830 --> 00:36:55,329 -Oh, here you go. -Thank you. 627 00:36:58,048 --> 00:37:01,102 You know, Ben, as much as I do relish 628 00:37:01,127 --> 00:37:02,977 a good investigative assignment, 629 00:37:03,935 --> 00:37:07,050 -Bob McNamara's an old friend. -Mm. 630 00:37:07,129 --> 00:37:09,957 He's going through a lot in his life right now. I just-- 631 00:37:10,105 --> 00:37:12,433 He's probably said all he wants to say. 632 00:37:12,566 --> 00:37:14,332 Why, do you think? 633 00:37:14,764 --> 00:37:15,951 -Why? -Why? 634 00:37:16,061 --> 00:37:17,537 Why is he talking to you? 635 00:37:17,562 --> 00:37:19,881 Well, I just told you he's my friend, and 636 00:37:19,951 --> 00:37:21,889 Well, is he talking to any other friends? 637 00:37:24,134 --> 00:37:28,001 I'm not sure I appreciate the implication of what you just-- 638 00:37:28,026 --> 00:37:30,220 McNamara is talking to you 639 00:37:30,267 --> 00:37:32,095 -because you are the publisher -That's not true! 640 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,564 -of The Washington Post. -No. 641 00:37:33,611 --> 00:37:34,713 -That is not why. -Because he wants you 642 00:37:34,745 --> 00:37:35,776 to bail him out. 643 00:37:35,801 --> 00:37:37,886 -No, there's no ulterior-- -Because he wants you on his side. 644 00:37:37,911 --> 00:37:40,911 No, Ben, that's not my role. You know that. 645 00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:44,137 I wouldn't presume to tell you how to write about him. 646 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,694 Just as I wouldn't 647 00:37:45,999 --> 00:37:48,843 take it upon myself to tell him 648 00:37:48,968 --> 00:37:51,828 he should hand over a classified study, 649 00:37:51,906 --> 00:37:54,281 which would be a crime, by the way, 650 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:56,937 just so he can serve as your source. 651 00:37:58,234 --> 00:37:59,875 Our source, Katharine. 652 00:38:12,539 --> 00:38:14,055 No, I--no. 653 00:38:14,133 --> 00:38:15,837 I'm not. I'm not going to 654 00:38:16,407 --> 00:38:17,805 ask Bob for the study. 655 00:38:17,895 --> 00:38:18,856 I... 656 00:38:19,028 --> 00:38:21,864 I get it, you have a relationship with Bob McNamara. 657 00:38:22,698 --> 00:38:25,767 But don't you think you have an obligation as well 658 00:38:25,792 --> 00:38:27,760 to the paper and to the public? 659 00:38:27,823 --> 00:38:29,135 Let me ask you something. 660 00:38:29,366 --> 00:38:30,811 Was that how you felt when you were 661 00:38:30,937 --> 00:38:32,733 palling around with Jack Kennedy? 662 00:38:33,217 --> 00:38:35,413 Where was your sense of duty then? 663 00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:39,413 I don't recall you pushing him particularly hard on anything. 664 00:38:40,104 --> 00:38:43,737 I pushed Jack when I had to-- I never pulled any punches. 665 00:38:43,784 --> 00:38:45,036 I-Is that right? 666 00:38:45,137 --> 00:38:47,935 'Cause you used to dine at the White House once a week. 667 00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:50,271 All the trips to Camp David. 668 00:38:50,591 --> 00:38:53,481 Oh, and that drunken birthday cruise on the Sequoia 669 00:38:53,528 --> 00:38:54,904 you told me about. 670 00:38:56,538 --> 00:38:59,491 Hard to believe you would've gotten all those invitations 671 00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:00,834 if you didn't 672 00:39:01,038 --> 00:39:02,640 pull a few punches. 673 00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:10,466 Street protests broke out today across the country 674 00:39:10,552 --> 00:39:12,356 after the publication of more excerpts 675 00:39:12,404 --> 00:39:14,427 of a classified Department of Defense study 676 00:39:14,452 --> 00:39:15,763 in The New York Times. 677 00:39:16,074 --> 00:39:18,362 The study commissioned by former Secretary of Defense 678 00:39:18,394 --> 00:39:20,855 Robert McNamara has ignited further debate 679 00:39:20,901 --> 00:39:23,322 over the ongoing war in Vietnam. 680 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,619 As it makes clear that Kennedy and Johnson 681 00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:27,683 as well as Eisenhower and Truman 682 00:39:27,738 --> 00:39:30,441 deeply misled the country on Vietnam 683 00:39:30,466 --> 00:39:33,385 The bombshell series has appeared for the last two days 684 00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:34,902 in The New York Times. 685 00:39:35,083 --> 00:39:36,997 We don't want your stinkin' war! 686 00:39:37,168 --> 00:39:40,903 d I�ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains d 687 00:39:43,409 --> 00:39:47,658 d I�ve walked and I�ve crawled on six crooked highways d 688 00:39:48,794 --> 00:39:51,177 And my brother Mario said, 689 00:39:51,534 --> 00:39:55,769 "There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious 690 00:39:56,003 --> 00:39:58,706 "that you've got to put your body upon the gears 691 00:39:58,864 --> 00:40:01,075 "and upon the wheels and upon the levers 692 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:03,250 "and you've got to make it stop!" 693 00:40:03,524 --> 00:40:04,836 One, two, three, four! 694 00:40:05,024 --> 00:40:07,047 We don't want your stinkin' war! 695 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,182 One, two, three, four! 696 00:40:10,216 --> 00:40:13,481 So that the President doesn't have to admit something 697 00:40:13,528 --> 00:40:14,974 the entire world already knows. 698 00:40:14,999 --> 00:40:17,709 You dinner with Mr. and Mrs. Rosenthal's at 7:00 in the Oak Room. 699 00:40:17,787 --> 00:40:19,646 And then I'll meet you tomorrow morning in the lobby at 8:00 700 00:40:19,671 --> 00:40:21,967 so you'll have plenty of time to get Downtown before the offering, 701 00:40:21,992 --> 00:40:23,350 -And the... -and the breakfast. 702 00:40:28,304 --> 00:40:30,578 -Bagdikian. -It's Harry Rowan. 703 00:40:31,195 --> 00:40:32,640 Hey, um... 704 00:40:32,828 --> 00:40:35,085 Let me call you back from outside the newsroom. 705 00:40:57,516 --> 00:40:58,914 Excuse me. 706 00:40:59,914 --> 00:41:01,297 Are you important? 707 00:41:02,008 --> 00:41:03,788 I'm a general standard reporter. 708 00:41:04,038 --> 00:41:04,991 Okay. 709 00:41:37,748 --> 00:41:39,537 Uh, I think I got something. 710 00:41:40,006 --> 00:41:41,326 Be my guest. 711 00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:43,639 And they are the source of the story. 712 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,091 Every time I read The New York Times above the fold-- 713 00:41:46,116 --> 00:41:47,298 -Mr. Bradlee? -No. 714 00:41:47,384 --> 00:41:49,501 I feel like somebody's shoving a hot poker up my ass. 715 00:41:54,673 --> 00:41:56,041 I think I got something. 716 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:05,750 Where'd you get these? 717 00:42:05,891 --> 00:42:07,414 Somebody left them on my desk. 718 00:42:11,406 --> 00:42:13,789 None was secretly suggesting that McNamara 719 00:42:13,875 --> 00:42:16,578 did provoke the North so we'd have grounds for escalation. 720 00:42:16,636 --> 00:42:19,107 Yeah, it was in The Times article. It was a good piece. 721 00:42:19,163 --> 00:42:19,865 You should check it out. 722 00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:21,139 -It was well-- -Jesus Christ. 723 00:42:21,194 --> 00:42:23,803 Give it to someone who can type 91 words a minute. 724 00:42:23,842 --> 00:42:25,499 -Ben. -and have it proofed, okay? 725 00:42:25,569 --> 00:42:26,553 -Ben. -Yeah. 726 00:42:26,733 --> 00:42:28,022 I think we got something. 727 00:42:28,593 --> 00:42:29,710 What is it? 728 00:42:38,025 --> 00:42:39,291 Jesus Christ. 729 00:42:40,373 --> 00:42:43,256 Shit. Are these part of the pages of the McNamara study? 730 00:42:43,281 --> 00:42:44,326 Where did you get these? 731 00:42:44,412 --> 00:42:45,771 Somebody left them on my desk. 732 00:42:45,968 --> 00:42:47,132 On your desk? 733 00:42:47,281 --> 00:42:48,859 I didn't--i-it was a woman. 734 00:42:48,936 --> 00:42:50,506 -What a woman? -We got over a 735 00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:51,818 -hundred pages of the McNamara -What woman? 736 00:42:51,843 --> 00:42:53,443 -study here. -She was a hippie woman, 737 00:42:53,513 --> 00:42:54,623 she had one of those, uh, 738 00:42:54,648 --> 00:42:55,795 -Hey, Debbie, give me Bagdikian. -Don't know what they're called 739 00:42:55,820 --> 00:42:56,811 -but it's one of those skirts -He's uh, 740 00:42:56,836 --> 00:42:58,000 -that looks like your uh, -He's out, he just went 741 00:42:58,063 --> 00:42:59,602 -swirling in colors. -somewhere 742 00:42:59,627 --> 00:43:01,093 -I don't-- -Probably between 5'4 and 5'6. 743 00:43:01,117 --> 00:43:03,094 Well, these are the real thing. 744 00:43:03,232 --> 00:43:04,154 Oh, she's uh, 745 00:43:04,179 --> 00:43:05,505 -We are back in the ballgame. -It was a tie-died, sir. 746 00:43:05,530 --> 00:43:06,534 It was a tie-died skirt. 747 00:43:06,651 --> 00:43:09,119 This is gonna be the front page of tomorrow's 748 00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:10,683 paper. Um... 749 00:43:10,768 --> 00:43:12,026 Give it to uh... 750 00:43:12,132 --> 00:43:14,046 give it to Marder, it's his lucky day. 751 00:43:20,341 --> 00:43:21,918 My God, the fun. 752 00:43:24,739 --> 00:43:25,988 Rand Corporation. 753 00:43:26,013 --> 00:43:27,419 Harry Rowan, please. 754 00:43:32,905 --> 00:43:33,989 This is Harry. 755 00:43:34,014 --> 00:43:36,022 Harry, it's Ben Bagdikian. 756 00:43:36,428 --> 00:43:38,373 You think someone's bugging your phone? 757 00:43:38,444 --> 00:43:40,569 I think someone might be bugging yours. 758 00:43:41,866 --> 00:43:43,898 Why would someone bug my phone? 759 00:43:44,525 --> 00:43:46,838 If I thought the McNamara study had leaked from Rand, 760 00:43:46,863 --> 00:43:49,440 I'd bug the phone of the president of Rand. 761 00:43:50,407 --> 00:43:51,774 It's a DOD study. 762 00:43:52,259 --> 00:43:54,478 A copy of which was sent to Rand for safekeeping. 763 00:43:54,532 --> 00:43:56,634 Two copies, if I'm not mistaken. 764 00:43:58,118 --> 00:44:00,954 Jesus Christ, Ben, that leak didn't come from us. 765 00:44:01,258 --> 00:44:02,571 You sure about that? 766 00:44:03,478 --> 00:44:04,962 Look, in my experience, 767 00:44:05,071 --> 00:44:07,773 guys who want stuff like this out there and have the guts to do it, 768 00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:09,203 they're a particular type-- 769 00:44:09,228 --> 00:44:10,515 they've got conscience and conviction 770 00:44:10,540 --> 00:44:12,029 but they've also got 771 00:44:12,092 --> 00:44:13,107 ego. 772 00:44:13,373 --> 00:44:15,287 Now, there's a guy that we both know. 773 00:44:15,357 --> 00:44:17,527 Okay? He was there the same time as I was. 774 00:44:17,552 --> 00:44:18,857 He left right after. 775 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,783 You know who I'm talkin' about, right? 776 00:44:20,939 --> 00:44:22,173 Isn't he the first guy you thought of 777 00:44:22,198 --> 00:44:24,353 when you saw the article in The Times? 778 00:44:27,361 --> 00:44:29,455 Okay, look, I gotta go. 779 00:44:37,656 --> 00:44:38,906 Mr. and Mrs. Rosenthal. 780 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,117 -Oh, yes, I see. -You're welcome. 781 00:44:43,862 --> 00:44:44,784 Hi. 782 00:44:44,995 --> 00:44:46,565 -Ah. -Sweets. 783 00:44:46,623 --> 00:44:48,942 I'm just going to apologize in advance. 784 00:44:49,028 --> 00:44:49,943 Great to see you. 785 00:44:49,968 --> 00:44:51,122 I'm no fun at all, Abe. 786 00:44:51,147 --> 00:44:53,420 -I'm just so nervous about -Huh? 787 00:44:53,554 --> 00:44:56,833 tomorrow at the Stock Exchange, I have to make a big speech... 788 00:44:56,858 --> 00:44:58,358 -No, no, no, no. -I'm so happy for you. 789 00:44:58,383 --> 00:45:00,835 No, going public is a good move for The Post. 790 00:45:00,961 --> 00:45:02,883 Maybe you can even think about expanding, 791 00:45:02,908 --> 00:45:04,524 try to be more of a national paper. 792 00:45:05,306 --> 00:45:07,041 I wish Abe would let me buy shares. 793 00:45:07,072 --> 00:45:09,337 Ah, that's against company policy, but 794 00:45:09,439 --> 00:45:11,634 if your nervous and need distraction, I-- 795 00:45:11,939 --> 00:45:14,155 I do happen to have a copy of today's Times. 796 00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:15,468 -Oh! -Abe! 797 00:45:16,479 --> 00:45:17,752 Unless you read it already. 798 00:45:18,502 --> 00:45:21,423 You awful man, you really are. 799 00:45:21,533 --> 00:45:23,143 Can we get you something to drink? 800 00:45:23,223 --> 00:45:25,214 Bundy argues for sustained bombing. 801 00:45:25,301 --> 00:45:28,809 He thinks it'll turn the tide. This is February of '65. 802 00:45:28,949 --> 00:45:32,473 Yeah, 'cause by April, they realize it's not gonna cut it. 803 00:45:32,498 --> 00:45:34,512 And LBJ sends two battalions. 804 00:45:34,537 --> 00:45:35,738 -Great stuff. -And get this-- 805 00:45:35,763 --> 00:45:38,410 He changes the mission from base security 806 00:45:38,435 --> 00:45:40,035 -to active combat. -My God. 807 00:45:40,060 --> 00:45:42,584 It's a huge shift. He's widening the war. 808 00:45:42,662 --> 00:45:43,909 But he insists on secrecy. 809 00:45:43,936 --> 00:45:45,936 The American people are not to be told. 810 00:45:45,961 --> 00:45:47,600 Okay, so this is the real deal. 811 00:45:47,625 --> 00:45:49,397 So how long till you can write it up? 812 00:45:49,422 --> 00:45:50,805 I can have it for Thursday. 813 00:45:50,844 --> 00:45:53,946 Well, what if we pretend you were a poet and not a novelist? 814 00:45:54,071 --> 00:45:57,305 I...I suppose I could pull something together by tomorrow night. 815 00:45:57,399 --> 00:45:59,235 Okay, we can run it on Wednesday. 816 00:46:05,908 --> 00:46:07,330 Just go through all the research you want 817 00:46:07,355 --> 00:46:10,003 but so help me God if we don't have these pages 818 00:46:10,034 --> 00:46:11,304 by tomorrow night, we might as well... 819 00:46:11,338 --> 00:46:12,416 Too late. 820 00:46:14,455 --> 00:46:16,830 -What? -The Times already has it. 821 00:46:20,823 --> 00:46:22,198 Well of course they have it. 822 00:46:22,284 --> 00:46:24,986 "President Johnson decided on April 1st, 1965 823 00:46:25,025 --> 00:46:26,314 -"that American ground forces -Of course The Times have it. 824 00:46:26,339 --> 00:46:28,065 -"were taking offensive -written by Neil Sheehan. 825 00:46:28,090 --> 00:46:29,441 "because a month of bombing--" 826 00:46:29,876 --> 00:46:32,954 You know, Sheehan's a bastard-- he's been a bastard for years. 827 00:46:33,094 --> 00:46:35,838 Mr. President, the Attorney General's called a couple of times 828 00:46:35,866 --> 00:46:38,291 about these New York Times stories. 829 00:46:38,745 --> 00:46:40,565 You mean to prosecute The Times? 830 00:46:40,604 --> 00:46:42,002 Hell, my view is to prosecute 831 00:46:42,027 --> 00:46:44,018 the goddamn pricks that gave it to him. 832 00:46:44,064 --> 00:46:45,434 If you can find out who that is. 833 00:46:45,459 --> 00:46:46,278 Yeah, I know. 834 00:46:46,372 --> 00:46:48,403 I mean, could The Times be prosecuted? 835 00:46:48,428 --> 00:46:49,669 Apparently so. 836 00:46:50,083 --> 00:46:51,559 As far as The Times is concerned, 837 00:46:51,584 --> 00:46:54,169 hell, they're our enemies, I think we just ought to do it. 838 00:46:55,202 --> 00:46:56,514 Son of a bitch. 839 00:47:00,321 --> 00:47:01,486 Abe Rosenthal. 840 00:47:01,556 --> 00:47:02,516 Oh, good evening. 841 00:47:02,611 --> 00:47:04,275 Your table is right over there, sir. 842 00:47:08,566 --> 00:47:11,402 On no uncertain terms not to publish. 843 00:47:11,575 --> 00:47:13,590 Only after Scotty Redstein 844 00:47:13,615 --> 00:47:15,465 threatened to publish in the Vineyard Gazette 845 00:47:15,490 --> 00:47:16,951 did Punch decide to print. 846 00:47:16,976 --> 00:47:18,779 Wouldn't have had quite the same impact. 847 00:47:20,503 --> 00:47:21,628 Jimmy. 848 00:47:23,425 --> 00:47:24,980 We've been asked 849 00:47:25,011 --> 00:47:27,237 to refrain from further publication 850 00:47:27,379 --> 00:47:29,105 by the Attorney General. 851 00:47:30,951 --> 00:47:32,849 Nixon's taking us to court? 852 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:41,031 Kay, I'm sorry, I uh... 853 00:47:41,056 --> 00:47:42,125 Oh, no. 854 00:47:46,133 --> 00:47:47,079 Gosh. 855 00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:53,843 Why don't I go get the check? 856 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,826 No, sit tight, don't argue with, be right back. 857 00:48:02,848 --> 00:48:05,051 Mr. Rosenthal had to leave on business. 858 00:48:05,129 --> 00:48:07,010 Certainly, we'll put it on his tab. 859 00:48:07,035 --> 00:48:08,963 No, no, I'll take the bill, but 860 00:48:09,027 --> 00:48:10,745 could I trouble you to use your telephone? 861 00:48:10,909 --> 00:48:12,018 But of course, madame. 862 00:48:20,204 --> 00:48:22,257 There's a fella I overlap with at Rand 863 00:48:22,282 --> 00:48:24,438 he was a bit of a showboat but smart. 864 00:48:24,509 --> 00:48:27,079 And he worked for McNamara and he had opinions 865 00:48:27,149 --> 00:48:29,587 on the decision-making that went into Vietnam. 866 00:48:30,188 --> 00:48:32,196 -Okay. -Word is 867 00:48:32,235 --> 00:48:33,126 he doved 868 00:48:33,172 --> 00:48:34,110 pretty hard. 869 00:48:34,297 --> 00:48:36,141 Would he have access to the study? 870 00:48:36,333 --> 00:48:37,989 Pretty sure Rand had a copy. 871 00:48:38,476 --> 00:48:41,117 No shit. All right, well, can you find him? 872 00:48:41,469 --> 00:48:43,023 Thought maybe I'd try. 873 00:48:47,154 --> 00:48:48,935 I've got Mrs. Graham on the line. 874 00:48:50,654 --> 00:48:51,864 Katharine! 875 00:48:52,166 --> 00:48:53,900 Hey, listen, I've-- 876 00:48:54,041 --> 00:48:56,494 -I've got tomorrow's headlines. -Ah. 877 00:48:56,572 --> 00:48:58,916 Christ, okay, again. 878 00:48:59,129 --> 00:49:01,222 John Mitchell contacted The Times, 879 00:49:01,262 --> 00:49:04,035 seems the President's going to seek an injunction 880 00:49:04,678 --> 00:49:06,374 No shit! 881 00:49:07,178 --> 00:49:08,875 This means we're in the goddamn ballgame. 882 00:49:09,459 --> 00:49:11,561 Because if The Times get shut down... 883 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,225 If they get shut down, there is no ballgame. 884 00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:15,577 Ballgame's over. 885 00:49:15,624 --> 00:49:19,265 But Katharine, any-anybody would kill to have a crack at this. 886 00:49:19,327 --> 00:49:22,179 Well, sure, but not if it means breaking the law. 887 00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:25,715 If a federal judge stops The Times from publishing, 888 00:49:25,872 --> 00:49:28,801 well, I don't see how we could publish-- 889 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,934 even if we could get hold of a copy. 890 00:49:31,037 --> 00:49:32,059 So. 891 00:49:34,028 --> 00:49:34,966 Ben? 892 00:49:35,769 --> 00:49:36,996 You have something? 893 00:49:38,371 --> 00:49:39,402 No. 894 00:49:40,264 --> 00:49:43,139 Okay, so then there's nothing to talk about, really. 895 00:49:43,178 --> 00:49:46,264 No. Nothing to talk about at all, but uh... 896 00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:49,537 But thank you for the tip, Mrs. uh, Graham. 897 00:49:50,092 --> 00:49:51,436 What are you still doing here? 898 00:50:21,363 --> 00:50:22,176 Hi. 899 00:50:27,937 --> 00:50:30,530 -How are you, Kay? -Hi, everyone. Good to see you. 900 00:50:30,726 --> 00:50:31,520 Hello? 901 00:50:31,545 --> 00:50:33,341 Yeah, I'm looking for Dan Ellsberg. 902 00:50:33,544 --> 00:50:35,091 He doesn't work here anymore. 903 00:50:35,263 --> 00:50:36,770 Do you know where he is now? 904 00:50:36,981 --> 00:50:38,872 No, I don't. Who's this? 905 00:50:39,122 --> 00:50:40,372 Thank you. 906 00:50:40,606 --> 00:50:42,575 And it is my great privilege 907 00:50:42,638 --> 00:50:45,200 to welcome The Washington Post Company 908 00:50:45,324 --> 00:50:47,668 to the American Stock Exchange! 909 00:50:52,460 --> 00:50:55,077 More than a privilege, Mrs. Graham, 910 00:50:55,102 --> 00:50:56,428 this is a real honor. 911 00:50:57,428 --> 00:50:58,452 Hello, this is John's. 912 00:50:58,477 --> 00:50:59,974 Yeah, I'm looking for Dan Ellsberg. 913 00:50:59,999 --> 00:51:01,124 You got the wrong number. 914 00:51:04,991 --> 00:51:06,647 Go check off this day. 915 00:51:09,136 --> 00:51:10,238 Gentlemen. 916 00:51:11,127 --> 00:51:14,604 Thank you all for helping make The Washington Post 917 00:51:14,629 --> 00:51:16,416 a more robust company. 918 00:51:18,456 --> 00:51:20,339 Center for International Studies. 919 00:51:20,426 --> 00:51:21,973 Yeah, I'm looking for Dan Ellsberg. 920 00:51:22,074 --> 00:51:23,293 He's not here. 921 00:51:24,660 --> 00:51:26,230 But he still works there? 922 00:51:26,340 --> 00:51:27,348 Yes. 923 00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:29,027 Can I take a message? 924 00:51:29,133 --> 00:51:32,062 Uh, tell him Ben Bagdikian called. 925 00:51:32,329 --> 00:51:33,431 Congratulations. 926 00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:35,446 Guys, why don't we get together for a photograph? 927 00:51:35,711 --> 00:51:37,618 That's a good idea. Here we go. 928 00:51:38,203 --> 00:51:39,336 Smile, Kay! 929 00:51:39,405 --> 00:51:40,233 What is it? 930 00:51:40,272 --> 00:51:41,678 You just bought a share of The Post! 931 00:51:41,858 --> 00:51:44,155 I know, I'm so happy! 932 00:51:44,335 --> 00:51:49,155 1.35 million shares at 24.50 a share. 933 00:51:52,333 --> 00:51:55,005 I believe this will not only make The Post solvent, 934 00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:57,075 but stronger than it ever has been. 935 00:51:57,145 --> 00:51:58,559 -To The Post! -The Post! 936 00:51:58,622 --> 00:52:00,168 He said to call from a secure phone. 937 00:52:00,193 --> 00:52:01,216 Mm-hmm. 938 00:52:08,310 --> 00:52:11,560 I hear Kennedy said Phil Graham was the smartest man he ever met. 939 00:52:12,022 --> 00:52:14,444 For Kay's father to hand her husband the company, 940 00:52:14,538 --> 00:52:15,775 it says something about the guy. 941 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,306 Ben! 942 00:52:16,331 --> 00:52:18,186 You thought it said something about the time. 943 00:52:19,449 --> 00:52:20,480 -Turn it up. -Good evening. 944 00:52:20,582 --> 00:52:23,191 The New York Times late today was barred 945 00:52:23,216 --> 00:52:24,973 at least until Saturday 946 00:52:25,137 --> 00:52:27,660 from publishing any more classified documents 947 00:52:27,730 --> 00:52:29,894 dealing with the cause and conduct 948 00:52:29,957 --> 00:52:31,543 of the Vietnam war. 949 00:52:31,595 --> 00:52:33,338 The Times, true to its word, 950 00:52:33,384 --> 00:52:35,845 said it would abide by the decision of federal judge 951 00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:37,041 Murray Gurfein 952 00:52:37,066 --> 00:52:39,009 but will resist a permanent injunction 953 00:52:39,034 --> 00:52:40,416 at a hearing Friday. 954 00:52:40,571 --> 00:52:42,086 The Nixon administration had charged 955 00:52:42,111 --> 00:52:44,415 that the final two parts of The Times' series 956 00:52:44,454 --> 00:52:45,422 would result in 957 00:52:45,447 --> 00:52:47,907 irreparable injury to the national defense. 958 00:52:47,994 --> 00:52:49,642 Hell, why bother fighting the communists? 959 00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:51,658 I think Jefferson just rolled over in his grave. 960 00:52:51,776 --> 00:52:54,307 Have the courts ever stopped a paper from publishing before? 961 00:52:54,455 --> 00:52:56,471 Not in the history of the Republic. 962 00:52:58,111 --> 00:53:00,010 Good thing we're not part of this mess. 963 00:53:00,221 --> 00:53:02,283 I'd give my left one to be in this mess. 964 00:53:03,385 --> 00:53:04,978 There's our front page lead. 965 00:53:05,150 --> 00:53:07,018 Tomorrow, Chal, that's yours. 966 00:53:07,934 --> 00:53:09,043 All right. 967 00:53:10,114 --> 00:53:12,919 Party's over, let's uh, get back to work, germs. 968 00:53:12,959 --> 00:53:15,922 ...in a news conference to discuss the Pentagon papers... 969 00:53:28,301 --> 00:53:28,942 Hello. 970 00:53:28,988 --> 00:53:30,621 Hi, it's uh, Ben. 971 00:53:30,754 --> 00:53:31,433 Yes? 972 00:53:31,606 --> 00:53:32,473 Dan? 973 00:53:32,699 --> 00:53:33,559 No. 974 00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:34,684 Oh, um, 975 00:53:34,777 --> 00:53:36,926 I'm trying to get hold of a fella I used to know. 976 00:53:37,535 --> 00:53:40,824 617-597-4580. 977 00:53:40,879 --> 00:53:41,559 Oh! 978 00:53:44,372 --> 00:53:45,551 Hold-Hold on. 979 00:53:47,278 --> 00:53:49,786 -Was it 4580, 61--? -Call from another phone. 980 00:53:50,833 --> 00:53:52,340 Uh, 617 981 00:53:52,504 --> 00:53:55,199 597-4580. 982 00:54:17,544 --> 00:54:18,497 Hello. 983 00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,981 -Yeah, I'm lookin' for-- -Yeah. Hey, Ben, it's Dan. 984 00:54:22,172 --> 00:54:23,359 Dan! 985 00:54:24,229 --> 00:54:25,448 It's good to hear your voice. 986 00:54:25,612 --> 00:54:26,901 Yeah, it's been a while. 987 00:54:27,096 --> 00:54:28,104 Yeah. 988 00:54:46,395 --> 00:54:48,661 -Who is it? -It's Ben. 989 00:54:58,169 --> 00:54:59,068 Ben. 990 00:54:59,786 --> 00:55:00,654 Dan. 991 00:55:06,722 --> 00:55:09,042 The study had 47 volumes. 992 00:55:09,198 --> 00:55:10,916 I slipped out a couple at a time, 993 00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:12,596 took me months to copy it all. 994 00:55:16,464 --> 00:55:17,620 What the hell? 995 00:55:17,659 --> 00:55:20,339 Well, we were all former government guys. 996 00:55:20,714 --> 00:55:22,167 Top clearance, all that. 997 00:55:22,447 --> 00:55:24,658 McNamara wanted academics to have the chance 998 00:55:24,683 --> 00:55:26,229 to examine what had happened. 999 00:55:26,385 --> 00:55:28,931 He would say to us, "Let the chips fall where they may." 1000 00:55:29,050 --> 00:55:30,128 Brave man. 1001 00:55:30,153 --> 00:55:33,339 Well, I think guilt was a bigger motivator than courage. 1002 00:55:33,389 --> 00:55:35,170 McNamara didn't lie as well as the rest. 1003 00:55:35,195 --> 00:55:37,405 But I-I don't think he saw what was coming, 1004 00:55:37,539 --> 00:55:40,023 what we'd find, but it didn't take him long to figure out-- 1005 00:55:40,048 --> 00:55:41,472 well, for us all to figure out. 1006 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,035 If the public ever saw these papers, 1007 00:55:43,066 --> 00:55:44,660 they would turn against the war. 1008 00:55:45,137 --> 00:55:46,840 Covert ops, guaranteed debt, 1009 00:55:46,886 --> 00:55:49,168 rigged elections, it's all in there. 1010 00:55:49,364 --> 00:55:51,324 Ike, Kennedy, Johnson-- 1011 00:55:51,971 --> 00:55:53,698 They violated the Geneva Convention, 1012 00:55:53,752 --> 00:55:56,104 and they lied to Congress and they lied to the public. 1013 00:55:56,487 --> 00:55:58,321 They knew we couldn't win 1014 00:55:58,399 --> 00:56:00,204 and still sent boys to die. 1015 00:56:00,368 --> 00:56:01,852 What about Nixon? 1016 00:56:03,312 --> 00:56:05,554 He's just carrying on like all the others. 1017 00:56:05,797 --> 00:56:08,953 Too afraid to be the one who loses the war on his watch. 1018 00:56:09,962 --> 00:56:11,861 Someone said this at 1019 00:56:12,010 --> 00:56:14,322 some point about why we stayed 1020 00:56:14,347 --> 00:56:15,924 when we knew we were losing. 1021 00:56:16,744 --> 00:56:19,119 Ten percent was to help the South Vietnamese. 1022 00:56:19,213 --> 00:56:21,596 Twenty percent was to hold back the commies. 1023 00:56:21,895 --> 00:56:24,098 Seventy percent was to avoid 1024 00:56:24,123 --> 00:56:26,692 the humiliation of an American defeat. 1025 00:56:27,098 --> 00:56:29,020 Seventy percent 1026 00:56:29,262 --> 00:56:30,825 of those boys 1027 00:56:31,122 --> 00:56:33,473 just to avoid being humiliated? 1028 00:56:34,211 --> 00:56:35,844 That stuck with me. 1029 00:56:44,793 --> 00:56:46,637 They're gonna come after you, you know? 1030 00:56:46,911 --> 00:56:48,496 And I gotta be honest, 1031 00:56:48,961 --> 00:56:51,523 the bread crumbs weren't too hard to follow. 1032 00:56:53,321 --> 00:56:54,414 I know. 1033 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,672 They're gonna lock you up, Dan., 1034 00:56:59,188 --> 00:57:01,688 Wouldn't you go to prison to stop this war? 1035 00:57:03,953 --> 00:57:06,071 Theoretically, sure. 1036 00:57:09,548 --> 00:57:12,986 You are gonna publish these documents? 1037 00:57:15,220 --> 00:57:16,322 Yeah. 1038 00:57:17,558 --> 00:57:19,769 Even with the injunction. 1039 00:57:21,605 --> 00:57:22,652 Yes. 1040 00:57:26,956 --> 00:57:29,839 Well, then, it's not so theoretical then, is it? 1041 00:57:40,578 --> 00:57:43,063 I'm gonna go do some work in the studio. 1042 00:57:51,986 --> 00:57:54,596 My day was great, thanks for asking. 1043 00:58:11,382 --> 00:58:13,257 That picture makes me sad. 1044 00:58:15,175 --> 00:58:16,277 Me too. 1045 00:58:22,007 --> 00:58:22,875 Bradlee. 1046 00:58:22,913 --> 00:58:24,015 I'm in Boston. 1047 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,867 I'm gonna need two seats. 1048 00:58:26,033 --> 00:58:27,103 Why? 1049 00:58:27,212 --> 00:58:28,603 I'm gonna need to buy 1050 00:58:28,628 --> 00:58:30,611 two seats on the first flight out tomorrow-- 1051 00:58:30,714 --> 00:58:32,666 probably first class. 1052 00:58:33,208 --> 00:58:34,739 No shit, you have them. 1053 00:58:37,602 --> 00:58:40,165 Well, you just get your ass back here, and uh... 1054 00:58:40,284 --> 00:58:41,533 Come straight to the house. 1055 00:58:41,558 --> 00:58:42,877 Forget Chal and Meg and the others, 1056 00:58:42,902 --> 00:58:45,073 I don't want the whole newsroom knowing about this yet. 1057 00:58:45,922 --> 00:58:46,938 I gotta go. 1058 00:58:46,993 --> 00:58:49,430 Didn't you just invite a bunch of people over? 1059 00:58:49,469 --> 00:58:50,501 Yeah. 1060 00:58:50,583 --> 00:58:51,466 Yeah, they'll uh, 1061 00:58:51,491 --> 00:58:52,594 they'll show up sometime tomorrow. 1062 00:58:52,619 --> 00:58:54,875 When, sometime tomorrow? Is this a breakfast thing? 1063 00:58:54,954 --> 00:58:56,664 -or a lunch thing? -Don't know. Don't know. 1064 00:58:56,689 --> 00:58:57,781 Do you need me to get things? 1065 00:58:57,806 --> 00:58:59,172 Yeah, we'll figure it all out. 1066 00:58:59,197 --> 00:59:00,579 Okay, well, where are you going? 1067 00:59:00,844 --> 00:59:01,610 Out. 1068 00:59:01,688 --> 00:59:04,141 -You going to the newsroom? -No. Love you, bear. 1069 00:59:05,977 --> 00:59:07,821 I got a cake, I hope it's okay? 1070 00:59:07,846 --> 00:59:10,860 Oh, sure, as long as nobody counts the candles. 1071 00:59:12,674 --> 00:59:14,830 I'm sorry to barge in again. 1072 00:59:15,547 --> 00:59:17,539 Maybe I should give you a key. 1073 00:59:17,564 --> 00:59:20,588 Uh, I'm not here to crash your party. 1074 00:59:20,692 --> 00:59:21,591 What's up? 1075 00:59:21,616 --> 00:59:22,919 Well, I could use a minute. 1076 00:59:30,849 --> 00:59:32,497 So, can I ask you a hypothetical question? 1077 00:59:32,522 --> 00:59:35,333 Oh, dear, I don't like hypothetical questions. 1078 00:59:35,358 --> 00:59:37,553 Well, I don't think you're gonna like the real one, either. 1079 00:59:41,312 --> 00:59:42,812 Do you have the papers? 1080 00:59:44,397 --> 00:59:45,663 Not yet. 1081 00:59:49,226 --> 00:59:52,765 Oh, gosh, oh, gosh, because you know the-the uh 1082 00:59:52,790 --> 00:59:55,163 position that would put me in. 1083 00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:58,624 You know, we have language in the prospectus... 1084 00:59:58,649 --> 00:59:59,430 Yeah, I know, I know 1085 00:59:59,455 --> 01:00:00,653 -that the bankers can change -Which, which 1086 01:00:00,678 --> 01:00:03,302 their mind, it's-and I know what is at stake. 1087 01:00:03,410 --> 01:00:04,582 You know, 1088 01:00:04,729 --> 01:00:08,441 the only couple I knew that both Kennedy and LBJ 1089 01:00:08,489 --> 01:00:11,409 wanted to socialize with was you and your husband. 1090 01:00:11,434 --> 01:00:13,394 And you own the damn paper. 1091 01:00:15,072 --> 01:00:16,697 It's just the way things worked. 1092 01:00:16,885 --> 01:00:18,900 Politicians and the press, they trusted each other 1093 01:00:18,933 --> 01:00:21,658 so they could go to the same dinner party and drink cocktails 1094 01:00:21,683 --> 01:00:23,580 and tell jokes while there was a war 1095 01:00:23,605 --> 01:00:25,002 -raging in Vietnam. -Ben, I don't know what 1096 01:00:25,027 --> 01:00:26,080 what we're talking about. 1097 01:00:26,112 --> 01:00:27,701 I'm not protecting Lyndon. 1098 01:00:27,726 --> 01:00:29,577 No, you got his former Secretary of Defense 1099 01:00:29,602 --> 01:00:32,142 Robert McNamara, the man who commissioned 1100 01:00:32,167 --> 01:00:33,986 -this study--he's one of about -I'm not protecting him. 1101 01:00:34,041 --> 01:00:35,345 -a dozen party guests -I'm not protecting 1102 01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:36,468 -out on your patio. -any of them. I'm 1103 01:00:36,493 --> 01:00:37,906 protecting the paper. 1104 01:00:37,953 --> 01:00:40,820 Yeah, well, I wasn't a stooge for Jack Kennedy. 1105 01:00:41,953 --> 01:00:44,390 The night he was assassinated, Tony and I were down 1106 01:00:44,415 --> 01:00:47,320 at the Naval Hospital so we would be there, 1107 01:00:47,398 --> 01:00:49,149 meet Jackie when she landed. 1108 01:00:49,220 --> 01:00:52,539 She was bringing Jack's body back on the plane from Dallas 1109 01:00:52,564 --> 01:00:54,579 and she walked into the room. 1110 01:00:54,947 --> 01:00:56,993 She was still wearing that pink suit 1111 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,837 with Jack's blood all over. 1112 01:00:59,603 --> 01:01:02,508 She fell into Tony's arms and they held each other for 1113 01:01:02,533 --> 01:01:05,017 quite a long time and... 1114 01:01:06,596 --> 01:01:10,736 And then Jackie looked at me and said, "None of this-- 1115 01:01:10,877 --> 01:01:13,048 "none of what you see, none of what I say 1116 01:01:13,089 --> 01:01:16,510 "is ever going to be in your newspaper, Ben." 1117 01:01:17,535 --> 01:01:20,285 And that just about broke my heart, I, uh... 1118 01:01:20,410 --> 01:01:22,175 I never... 1119 01:01:22,355 --> 01:01:24,222 I never thought of Jack as a source. 1120 01:01:24,247 --> 01:01:26,106 I thought of him as a friend. And-- 1121 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,005 And that was my mistake. 1122 01:01:29,003 --> 01:01:31,363 And it was something that Jack knew all along. 1123 01:01:32,644 --> 01:01:34,706 We can't be both, we have to choose. 1124 01:01:35,813 --> 01:01:36,720 And uh... 1125 01:01:37,368 --> 01:01:38,688 And that's the point. 1126 01:01:39,116 --> 01:01:40,897 The days of us smoking cigars together 1127 01:01:40,922 --> 01:01:42,991 down on Pennsylvania Avenue were over. 1128 01:01:43,788 --> 01:01:45,764 Your friend McNamara's study 1129 01:01:46,663 --> 01:01:47,679 proves that. 1130 01:01:48,770 --> 01:01:50,043 The way they lied. 1131 01:01:52,317 --> 01:01:53,746 The way they lied. 1132 01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:56,004 Those days have to be over. 1133 01:01:58,361 --> 01:01:59,971 We have to be the check 1134 01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:01,439 on their power. 1135 01:02:01,525 --> 01:02:03,439 If we don't hold them accountable, 1136 01:02:03,518 --> 01:02:05,791 then, my God, who will? 1137 01:02:07,555 --> 01:02:09,117 Well, I've never smoked a cigar. 1138 01:02:09,142 --> 01:02:11,711 And I have no problem holding Lyndon or Jack or 1139 01:02:11,782 --> 01:02:13,649 Bob or any of them accountable. 1140 01:02:14,424 --> 01:02:16,431 We can't hold them accountable 1141 01:02:16,548 --> 01:02:18,165 if we don't have a newspaper. 1142 01:02:20,362 --> 01:02:22,667 When I get my hands on that study, 1143 01:02:22,753 --> 01:02:25,534 what are you going to do, Mrs. Graham? 1144 01:02:28,838 --> 01:02:30,244 Oh, um... 1145 01:02:30,705 --> 01:02:32,041 Happy birthday, by the way. 1146 01:02:34,912 --> 01:02:36,123 Oh, that's not what I heard. 1147 01:02:45,098 --> 01:02:46,739 -Club soda. -Yes, thank you. 1148 01:02:48,247 --> 01:02:49,083 Sir, 1149 01:02:49,192 --> 01:02:51,324 I'm gonna need to put your seat in a full upright position 1150 01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:53,215 -before take-off. -Oh, yeah. 1151 01:02:53,856 --> 01:02:55,919 Oh, must be precious cargo. 1152 01:02:56,172 --> 01:02:59,219 Yeah...it's just... government secrets. 1153 01:02:59,290 --> 01:03:00,212 Oh. 1154 01:03:00,454 --> 01:03:01,734 Please fasten you seatbelt. 1155 01:03:16,127 --> 01:03:18,221 -You know why we're here? -Beats me. 1156 01:03:19,192 --> 01:03:20,926 -Hi, Marina. -Hi. 1157 01:03:20,971 --> 01:03:23,018 -Do you want lemonade? -A little early for me. 1158 01:03:23,043 --> 01:03:24,744 Ah, loosen up, I'm buying. 1159 01:03:24,769 --> 01:03:26,775 What kind of lemonade you have there? 1160 01:03:26,902 --> 01:03:29,909 Uh, it's the one with the lemons in it. 1161 01:03:30,331 --> 01:03:31,331 Okay. 1162 01:03:32,585 --> 01:03:33,475 There you go. 1163 01:03:36,137 --> 01:03:37,411 Bill, help me out. 1164 01:03:39,949 --> 01:03:41,317 Grab my briefcase. 1165 01:03:43,771 --> 01:03:45,199 -Is that...? -Yup. 1166 01:03:58,202 --> 01:04:01,515 It's not the full report, but it's over 4,000 pages of it. 1167 01:04:04,580 --> 01:04:05,970 Huh, are these in order? 1168 01:04:05,995 --> 01:04:07,190 I don't think so. 1169 01:04:07,237 --> 01:04:08,495 There are no page numbers. 1170 01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:10,439 Yeah, that's where the top secret stamps were. 1171 01:04:10,479 --> 01:04:11,689 My source had to cut 'em off. 1172 01:04:11,714 --> 01:04:13,323 We're supposed to retire on Friday. 1173 01:04:13,362 --> 01:04:16,010 Ben, how are we supposed to comb through 4,000 pages-- 1174 01:04:16,035 --> 01:04:17,463 They're not even loosely organized. 1175 01:04:17,488 --> 01:04:18,550 The Times had three months. 1176 01:04:18,582 --> 01:04:19,691 There's no way we get this amount... 1177 01:04:19,716 --> 01:04:21,316 Yeah, he's right, we got less than eight hours. 1178 01:04:21,371 --> 01:04:22,902 We get two per city, then we have ten. 1179 01:04:22,996 --> 01:04:25,855 Hey, hey, hey, for the last six years we've been playing catch up. 1180 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,012 And now thanks to the President of the United States 1181 01:04:28,037 --> 01:04:31,589 who, by the way, is taking a shit all over the First Amendment, 1182 01:04:31,668 --> 01:04:33,043 we have the goods. 1183 01:04:33,434 --> 01:04:35,129 We don't have any competition. 1184 01:04:35,656 --> 01:04:37,547 There's dozens of stories in here. 1185 01:04:37,633 --> 01:04:40,023 The Times has barely scratched the surface. 1186 01:04:40,648 --> 01:04:43,187 We have ten hours till the deadline, so, 1187 01:04:44,062 --> 01:04:45,476 we dig in. 1188 01:04:49,547 --> 01:04:51,469 I think this memo's from McNamara. 1189 01:04:51,695 --> 01:04:53,304 Uh "It is my belief that there should be 1190 01:04:53,329 --> 01:04:55,117 a three or four week pause in bombing--" 1191 01:04:55,142 --> 01:04:57,241 Wait, wait, wait, I saw the other half of that memo. 1192 01:04:57,266 --> 01:05:00,609 Uh, anyone have the back half of a cable from Dulles in '54? 1193 01:05:00,688 --> 01:05:02,664 I thought I saw one from July. 1194 01:05:02,711 --> 01:05:04,891 Yeah, here it is, uh, "The reasons for this belief 1195 01:05:04,954 --> 01:05:06,868 "are that we must lay a foundation 1196 01:05:06,893 --> 01:05:08,117 "in the mind of the American public." 1197 01:05:08,142 --> 01:05:09,961 Th-Th-Th-That's it! Mm-hmm. 1198 01:05:11,542 --> 01:05:13,128 So Johnson wasn't trying to make peace, 1199 01:05:13,153 --> 01:05:14,464 he was just manipulating the public? 1200 01:05:14,489 --> 01:05:17,199 Eyes out for a suspension in bombing from when? 1201 01:05:17,247 --> 01:05:19,051 '65 to '68. 1202 01:05:19,076 --> 01:05:21,348 What about a memo from Eisenhower's 1203 01:05:21,373 --> 01:05:22,966 special committee in Indochina? 1204 01:05:23,028 --> 01:05:25,378 Uh, Meg read a part of one to me. 1205 01:05:25,409 --> 01:05:27,269 -Meg? -Anybody see a mention 1206 01:05:27,294 --> 01:05:29,394 -of the Rand Vietcong study? -Yeah, I think this might be 1207 01:05:29,419 --> 01:05:32,417 from your Rand study, "VC are deeply committed." 1208 01:05:32,442 --> 01:05:34,505 "South Vietnam is a lost cause." 1209 01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:36,505 Whoa! There you go! 1210 01:05:36,545 --> 01:05:38,684 -Meg, Meg, Meg, I need the uh... -I put it on the shelf. 1211 01:05:38,709 --> 01:05:39,834 A couple of piles. 1212 01:05:40,057 --> 01:05:41,213 We're gettin' somewhere. 1213 01:05:41,268 --> 01:05:44,495 All right, it's 1:30, at 4:00 story conference. 1214 01:05:44,593 --> 01:05:46,804 Can I interest anyone in some lemonade? 1215 01:05:46,829 --> 01:05:48,312 Does it have vodka in it? 1216 01:05:48,374 --> 01:05:49,446 -I don't, I don't -Hey, 1217 01:05:49,471 --> 01:05:50,876 -put vodka in my lemonade. -go easy on the kid. 1218 01:05:50,901 --> 01:05:51,721 Why not? 1219 01:05:51,820 --> 01:05:53,364 -How much, sweetheart? -A quarter. 1220 01:05:53,458 --> 01:05:54,567 It's fifty cents. 1221 01:05:55,263 --> 01:05:56,958 -Inflation. -It's going up! 1222 01:06:00,425 --> 01:06:02,675 Mr. Bradlee. Roger Clark. 1223 01:06:02,909 --> 01:06:05,113 Oh, you're Roger Clark. 1224 01:06:05,316 --> 01:06:06,917 Nice to meet you in person. 1225 01:06:07,058 --> 01:06:10,113 You...you are our senior legal counsel. 1226 01:06:10,834 --> 01:06:12,732 Yes, we've-we've spoken on the phone. 1227 01:06:12,772 --> 01:06:14,545 My voice should sound familiar. 1228 01:06:14,570 --> 01:06:16,131 When did you finish law school? 1229 01:06:17,491 --> 01:06:19,163 -I graduated-- -Rhetorical question. 1230 01:06:19,328 --> 01:06:20,070 -You know, -Yes. 1231 01:06:20,095 --> 01:06:23,304 the guy we had before you is now Secretary of State? 1232 01:06:23,718 --> 01:06:25,328 I did not know that. 1233 01:06:26,554 --> 01:06:28,429 A little joke, perhaps not the time-- 1234 01:06:28,454 --> 01:06:29,992 What exactly can I help you with? 1235 01:06:30,241 --> 01:06:33,038 So, why would the CIA director send a memo on work orders? 1236 01:06:33,085 --> 01:06:34,570 'Cause they weren't calling it a war yet. 1237 01:06:34,602 --> 01:06:36,397 Okay, I've got turkey with mustard, 1238 01:06:36,422 --> 01:06:38,293 -roast beef with horseradish. -Oh, I'll take it. 1239 01:06:38,318 --> 01:06:39,301 Howard, come look at this. 1240 01:06:39,326 --> 01:06:40,875 -Chal, you've gotta see this-- -Take a napkin. 1241 01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:43,926 it's a full analysis of McNamara's changing view of the war. 1242 01:06:43,973 --> 01:06:45,051 Does it say anything about why...? 1243 01:06:45,076 --> 01:06:46,747 So, we knew they were gonna assassinate Diem. 1244 01:06:46,772 --> 01:06:48,465 Yeah, and they did nothing to stop it. 1245 01:06:48,490 --> 01:06:50,309 I think I got something on McNamara on the fireplace-- 1246 01:06:50,353 --> 01:06:51,400 the other fireplace. 1247 01:06:53,458 --> 01:06:55,162 Murray, where's the back half of this one? 1248 01:06:57,655 --> 01:06:59,381 Tell me these aren't the classified documents 1249 01:06:59,428 --> 01:07:00,921 from the McNamara study. 1250 01:07:01,382 --> 01:07:03,702 -4,000 pages of it. -Hungry? 1251 01:07:04,066 --> 01:07:05,183 I need to use a phone. 1252 01:07:05,573 --> 01:07:07,449 There's uh, one in the other room. 1253 01:07:08,219 --> 01:07:10,680 -Is that it? -This is it, this is it. 1254 01:07:12,134 --> 01:07:13,352 This is gonna happen. 1255 01:07:54,975 --> 01:07:58,061 Hi, thanks for letting me drop by. 1256 01:07:58,428 --> 01:08:01,047 -Marg still napping? -Yeah, yeah. 1257 01:08:01,102 --> 01:08:02,430 Do you mind if we talk in the center? 1258 01:08:02,485 --> 01:08:04,063 -Just so I can hear her. -No, no 1259 01:08:04,126 --> 01:08:05,219 -She wakes... -Of course not. 1260 01:08:05,244 --> 01:08:06,563 I can't stay long, I've got a 1261 01:08:06,588 --> 01:08:08,008 -big event at the house later. -I guess you've 1262 01:08:08,048 --> 01:08:09,829 read everything now. 1263 01:08:11,178 --> 01:08:12,975 Yes, I have, I have. Yes. 1264 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,116 And I went over it again this morning. 1265 01:08:15,632 --> 01:08:16,640 All of it. 1266 01:08:18,351 --> 01:08:19,468 And I just... 1267 01:08:21,474 --> 01:08:23,192 Forgive me, Bob, I... 1268 01:08:23,364 --> 01:08:25,903 know you're dealing with so much, but 1269 01:08:26,244 --> 01:08:29,181 but it's just, it's so hard to, um, 1270 01:08:29,604 --> 01:08:31,291 try to make sense of why 1271 01:08:31,494 --> 01:08:34,026 of how you could have done all these things. 1272 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,241 How you could just lie to us all. 1273 01:08:36,281 --> 01:08:37,749 Well... i-it's easy 1274 01:08:37,804 --> 01:08:40,031 for the papers to characterize us 1275 01:08:40,093 --> 01:08:42,530 as liars, we were just trying to push back-- 1276 01:08:42,582 --> 01:08:44,902 Yeah, but you let it go on, and on, and-- 1277 01:08:44,927 --> 01:08:47,723 My son is home now and safe--Thank God. 1278 01:08:47,952 --> 01:08:49,608 But you watched him go. 1279 01:08:49,921 --> 01:08:51,725 You knew we couldn't win over there 1280 01:08:51,788 --> 01:08:55,186 for years and years and years, and yet you let me... 1281 01:08:55,812 --> 01:08:58,944 You let so many of our friends send our boys off... 1282 01:08:59,030 --> 01:09:00,819 Kay, we were doing the best we could. 1283 01:09:01,858 --> 01:09:04,437 It was domino theory, containment. 1284 01:09:04,905 --> 01:09:07,381 And eventually, we felt that military pressure 1285 01:09:07,413 --> 01:09:10,405 was the only thing that was gonna drive Ho Chi Minh to the table. 1286 01:09:10,488 --> 01:09:12,199 Our decision-making process was-- 1287 01:09:12,253 --> 01:09:13,378 "Flawed." 1288 01:09:18,714 --> 01:09:21,495 It was flawed. That's what your study said. 1289 01:09:23,550 --> 01:09:24,465 Yes. 1290 01:09:27,286 --> 01:09:28,426 I do believe 1291 01:09:28,451 --> 01:09:31,888 that you were trying to do your best. 1292 01:09:33,008 --> 01:09:35,524 And I know how difficult it can be 1293 01:09:35,641 --> 01:09:37,493 to make choices that will... 1294 01:09:37,641 --> 01:09:38,782 That's kind of you. 1295 01:09:40,469 --> 01:09:43,524 Oh, well, what comes next might not be so kind. 1296 01:09:46,172 --> 01:09:47,641 You have the papers? 1297 01:09:48,129 --> 01:09:49,043 Oh. 1298 01:09:49,973 --> 01:09:51,167 Let's just say 1299 01:09:51,481 --> 01:09:53,012 I may have 1300 01:09:53,402 --> 01:09:55,262 a big decision to make. 1301 01:10:00,256 --> 01:10:02,990 They will argue it's a violation of the Espionage Act. 1302 01:10:03,038 --> 01:10:04,491 That is a felony, Ben. 1303 01:10:04,516 --> 01:10:06,070 That's only-only if the documents we print 1304 01:10:06,095 --> 01:10:07,696 could damage the United States. 1305 01:10:07,781 --> 01:10:09,250 There's a federal judge in New York 1306 01:10:09,275 --> 01:10:10,633 who seems to think that they could. 1307 01:10:10,664 --> 01:10:12,797 Well, I've got six seasoned journalists in the next room 1308 01:10:12,822 --> 01:10:14,828 who've been reporting on this war for the last ten years. 1309 01:10:14,853 --> 01:10:16,891 And I'll lay odds that they have a better idea 1310 01:10:16,916 --> 01:10:18,549 of what could damage the United States 1311 01:10:18,611 --> 01:10:20,502 than some judge who is just now 1312 01:10:20,527 --> 01:10:22,698 wading in this territory for the first time. 1313 01:10:22,723 --> 01:10:25,350 "Wading", is that a metaphor for Vietnam? 1314 01:10:25,375 --> 01:10:27,959 Okay, Ben, look, we know your reporters are talented. 1315 01:10:28,132 --> 01:10:30,171 But The New York Times spent three months 1316 01:10:30,196 --> 01:10:32,038 going over these documents. 1317 01:10:32,364 --> 01:10:35,372 You've got what--seven hours now until the paper goes to press? 1318 01:10:35,489 --> 01:10:37,934 Can you honestly tell me that that is enough time 1319 01:10:37,981 --> 01:10:40,574 to make sure not a single 1320 01:10:40,872 --> 01:10:43,098 military plan, not a single U.S. soldier, 1321 01:10:43,123 --> 01:10:45,970 not a single American life will be put in harm's way, 1322 01:10:45,995 --> 01:10:49,416 that this will do no damage to the United States if you publish? 1323 01:10:49,681 --> 01:10:50,805 Yes. 1324 01:10:53,016 --> 01:10:54,282 You're sure about that? 1325 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,142 No! That's why I called you guys. 1326 01:10:58,779 --> 01:11:01,224 Look, Kay, I know why The Times ran the story. 1327 01:11:01,249 --> 01:11:02,764 But you need to understand, 1328 01:11:02,803 --> 01:11:05,880 the study was for posterity. It was written for academics 1329 01:11:05,904 --> 01:11:08,076 in the future and right now, we're still in the middle of the war. 1330 01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:09,960 The papers can't be objective. 1331 01:11:10,015 --> 01:11:12,382 I suppose the public has a right to know. 1332 01:11:12,407 --> 01:11:13,850 But I would prefer 1333 01:11:14,069 --> 01:11:16,123 that the study not be made widely available 1334 01:11:16,164 --> 01:11:18,405 until it can be read with some perspective. 1335 01:11:18,455 --> 01:11:20,354 -You understand. -Mm. 1336 01:11:23,691 --> 01:11:25,566 We've been through a lot, haven't we? 1337 01:11:26,042 --> 01:11:27,246 You and Marg. 1338 01:11:27,742 --> 01:11:29,000 You were there for me. 1339 01:11:29,398 --> 01:11:31,492 At the lowest point of my life. 1340 01:11:31,740 --> 01:11:32,904 You helped me. 1341 01:11:33,037 --> 01:11:35,178 You've selected my entire board. 1342 01:11:35,334 --> 01:11:37,443 You're my most trusted advisor. 1343 01:11:37,850 --> 01:11:39,397 My dear friend. 1344 01:11:40,544 --> 01:11:42,185 But my feelings 1345 01:11:42,567 --> 01:11:44,612 about that and about you can't 1346 01:11:44,637 --> 01:11:47,729 uh, be part of this decision to publish or not. 1347 01:11:47,816 --> 01:11:50,261 I'm here asking 1348 01:11:50,808 --> 01:11:53,910 your advice, Bob, not your permission. 1349 01:11:55,254 --> 01:11:56,051 Well, 1350 01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:58,104 then as one of your most trusted advisors, 1351 01:11:58,129 --> 01:12:00,299 and someone who knows how much you care about this company, 1352 01:12:00,324 --> 01:12:01,472 I'm worried, Kay. 1353 01:12:01,524 --> 01:12:03,000 You know, I worked in Washington for ten years 1354 01:12:03,062 --> 01:12:04,476 I've seen these people up close. 1355 01:12:04,524 --> 01:12:06,532 Bobby and Lyndon, they were tough customers. 1356 01:12:06,557 --> 01:12:08,946 But Nixon is different. 1357 01:12:09,119 --> 01:12:10,962 He's got some real bad people around him. 1358 01:12:10,987 --> 01:12:13,072 And if you publish, he'll get the very worst of them 1359 01:12:13,127 --> 01:12:15,790 the Colsons, and the Ehrlichmans and he'll crush you. 1360 01:12:15,815 --> 01:12:17,268 I know, he's just awful, but I-- 1361 01:12:17,307 --> 01:12:19,018 He's a--Nixon's a son of a bitch! 1362 01:12:19,043 --> 01:12:20,800 He hates you, he hates Ben. 1363 01:12:20,825 --> 01:12:22,238 He's wanted to ruin the paper for years. 1364 01:12:22,263 --> 01:12:24,801 And you will not get a second chance, Kay. 1365 01:12:25,023 --> 01:12:26,453 The Richard Nixon I know 1366 01:12:26,478 --> 01:12:28,430 will muster the full power of the presidency. 1367 01:12:28,455 --> 01:12:30,313 And if there's a way to destroy your paper, 1368 01:12:30,414 --> 01:12:32,313 by God, he'll find it! 1369 01:12:35,247 --> 01:12:37,137 -Publish information that harms -I told you 1370 01:12:37,239 --> 01:12:38,762 -national security. -there' nothing in there. 1371 01:12:38,825 --> 01:12:40,731 If there is, the paper will be prosecuted. 1372 01:12:40,756 --> 01:12:41,903 Isn't that why you're here? 1373 01:12:42,256 --> 01:12:43,748 Yes, Ben, but if we lose-- 1374 01:12:43,773 --> 01:12:45,587 Oh, with what we pay you, you really shouldn't lose. 1375 01:12:45,612 --> 01:12:46,641 Ben, you need to listen to them. 1376 01:12:46,666 --> 01:12:48,071 Hey, Fritz, good to see you. 1377 01:12:48,103 --> 01:12:49,345 This is about the future of the company. 1378 01:12:49,408 --> 01:12:50,946 -and ensuring there is one. -Oh, that's a little melodramatic, 1379 01:12:50,971 --> 01:12:52,369 -don't you think? -Melodramatic. 1380 01:12:52,571 --> 01:12:56,305 You're talking about exposing years of government secrets. 1381 01:12:56,815 --> 01:12:58,932 I can't imagine they're gonna take that lightly. 1382 01:12:59,555 --> 01:13:01,180 You could jeopardize the public offering. 1383 01:13:01,205 --> 01:13:03,281 You could jeopardize our television stations. 1384 01:13:03,352 --> 01:13:05,102 You know a felon can't hold a broadcast license. 1385 01:13:05,150 --> 01:13:07,205 You think I give two shits about the television stations? 1386 01:13:07,230 --> 01:13:09,174 You should, they make a hell of a lot more money than you do. 1387 01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:11,738 And without that revenue, we'd be forced to sell. 1388 01:13:11,872 --> 01:13:14,145 If the government wins and we're convicted, 1389 01:13:14,223 --> 01:13:17,089 the Washington Post as we know it will cease to exist. 1390 01:13:17,114 --> 01:13:18,309 Well, if we live in- in a world where 1391 01:13:18,334 --> 01:13:20,160 the government could tell us what we can and cannot print, 1392 01:13:20,185 --> 01:13:21,356 then the Washington Post as we know it 1393 01:13:21,381 --> 01:13:23,278 has already ceased to exist. 1394 01:13:25,117 --> 01:13:26,352 What if we wait? 1395 01:13:27,883 --> 01:13:30,086 What if we hold off on printing today? 1396 01:13:30,197 --> 01:13:31,570 And instead we call the Attorney General 1397 01:13:31,595 --> 01:13:34,884 and we tell him that we intend to print on Sunday. 1398 01:13:34,909 --> 01:13:37,166 That way, we give them and us time to figure out 1399 01:13:37,191 --> 01:13:38,753 the legality of all of it, 1400 01:13:39,034 --> 01:13:41,550 while the court in New York decides The Times case. 1401 01:13:41,693 --> 01:13:43,911 You're suggesting we alert the Attorney General 1402 01:13:43,936 --> 01:13:46,107 to the fact that we have these documents 1403 01:13:46,164 --> 01:13:47,500 that we're going to print 1404 01:13:47,696 --> 01:13:49,086 in a few days. 1405 01:13:52,580 --> 01:13:55,431 Well, yes, that is the...idea. 1406 01:13:56,026 --> 01:13:57,127 Yeah, well, 1407 01:13:57,401 --> 01:14:00,291 outside of landing the Hindenburg in a lightning storm, 1408 01:14:00,322 --> 01:14:02,510 that's about the shittiest idea I've ever heard. 1409 01:14:02,535 --> 01:14:03,651 Oh, boy. 1410 01:14:11,521 --> 01:14:13,513 Oh, here's the man of the hour. 1411 01:14:16,201 --> 01:14:17,551 Ah, I'm found. 1412 01:14:17,576 --> 01:14:20,232 Thank you, Kay, you didn't have to got through all this trouble. 1413 01:14:20,270 --> 01:14:22,489 We had to turn him away at the door, didn't we, dear. 1414 01:14:22,856 --> 01:14:25,676 -Oh, Gene. -Mrs. Graham. 1415 01:14:25,922 --> 01:14:28,047 So, everything okay? 1416 01:14:28,079 --> 01:14:30,680 Uh, it's gotten pretty hot over at Ben's house. 1417 01:14:31,068 --> 01:14:33,810 Oh, things are not going well? 1418 01:14:33,835 --> 01:14:36,825 No, Ben and Mr. Beebe are real loggerheads. 1419 01:14:37,569 --> 01:14:39,757 Fritz and Ben on opposite sides? 1420 01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:41,764 I made a commitment to publish these papers. 1421 01:14:41,862 --> 01:14:44,549 Yes, and if you would tell us who you made that commitment to... 1422 01:14:46,267 --> 01:14:48,850 -Enjoying the fight? -Yeah, who's winning? 1423 01:14:48,906 --> 01:14:49,789 Nixon. 1424 01:14:49,906 --> 01:14:51,094 I didn't see him come in. 1425 01:14:51,164 --> 01:14:54,015 Really? He's got his hand so far up Fritz' ass. 1426 01:14:55,226 --> 01:14:56,570 Where is Fritz? 1427 01:15:00,922 --> 01:15:01,696 That-- 1428 01:15:01,805 --> 01:15:04,612 That--not in so many words, but you're a bunch of lawyers. 1429 01:15:05,227 --> 01:15:06,594 If we're not gonna publish, 1430 01:15:06,619 --> 01:15:08,493 why are we busting our rear ends, Ben? 1431 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,172 Keep writing. 1432 01:15:10,265 --> 01:15:11,687 And uh, what, could-- 1433 01:15:11,781 --> 01:15:13,945 Could you stop playing chopsticks? 1434 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,644 What's up there, Fritz? 1435 01:15:21,363 --> 01:15:22,456 Calling Kay. 1436 01:15:23,699 --> 01:15:24,973 I'm sorry, Ben. 1437 01:15:25,207 --> 01:15:26,441 I know you want this. 1438 01:15:26,785 --> 01:15:28,285 There'll be another one. 1439 01:15:29,435 --> 01:15:31,599 Like hell there will be. 1440 01:15:39,995 --> 01:15:42,518 Uh, hello, hello, I'm making a telephone call. 1441 01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:44,238 Yeah, well, it's my house 1442 01:15:44,277 --> 01:15:46,651 -so I-I'll be on the call. -All right, Ben. 1443 01:15:46,967 --> 01:15:49,263 I just want to- to thank you all 1444 01:15:49,288 --> 01:15:51,428 for coming out this evening 1445 01:15:51,573 --> 01:15:55,315 to help me launch Harry Gladstein and his 1446 01:15:55,470 --> 01:15:59,728 new sailboat into the... Chesapeake Bay. 1447 01:15:59,753 --> 01:16:04,250 And into his very well-earned retirement. 1448 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,110 Let me just tell you a little bit 1449 01:16:06,135 --> 01:16:08,189 about why I'm so wild about Harry. 1450 01:16:09,278 --> 01:16:11,888 Mrs. Graham, it's Mr. Beebe on the phone. 1451 01:16:11,973 --> 01:16:14,754 In uh, 1949, wasn't it? 1452 01:16:14,817 --> 01:16:18,543 Uh, Phil Graham first brought Harry to the company. 1453 01:16:18,581 --> 01:16:20,753 -I'm afraid they need you now -And I remember he told me. 1454 01:16:20,778 --> 01:16:22,204 Mrs. Graham. 1455 01:16:23,224 --> 01:16:24,740 They're now-- 1456 01:16:26,287 --> 01:16:29,225 Uh, oh, dear. I'm so sorry. 1457 01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:31,459 Forgive me, Harry. 1458 01:16:31,624 --> 01:16:33,288 I think I'll have to suspend. 1459 01:16:33,975 --> 01:16:35,874 Well, you're paying the overtime. 1460 01:16:37,436 --> 01:16:38,662 Be right back. 1461 01:16:42,136 --> 01:16:43,043 We should wait. 1462 01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:46,725 Yeah, I understand, Ben, but if you wait a day... 1463 01:16:48,423 --> 01:16:49,907 Fritz on the phone for me? 1464 01:16:49,932 --> 01:16:51,079 We should be on this call. 1465 01:16:51,138 --> 01:16:53,474 Well, there's an extension in the living room. 1466 01:16:53,576 --> 01:16:55,740 Liz, show them where, please, thank you. 1467 01:17:06,579 --> 01:17:08,688 -Hello, Fritz? -Hello, Kay. 1468 01:17:09,126 --> 01:17:10,438 Would you like me to catch you up? 1469 01:17:10,463 --> 01:17:12,798 I say we can, he says we can't. There, you're caught up. 1470 01:17:12,823 --> 01:17:14,205 -Ben? -Hello, it's Art. 1471 01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:17,413 Uh, Ben, there are concerns here 1472 01:17:17,438 --> 01:17:19,327 that are frankly above your pay grade. 1473 01:17:19,390 --> 01:17:20,772 Well, there's a few above yours. 1474 01:17:20,797 --> 01:17:22,359 Like fucking freedom of the press. 1475 01:17:22,476 --> 01:17:24,398 Let's just be civil if we can. 1476 01:17:24,484 --> 01:17:26,156 Do you think Nixon is going to be civil? 1477 01:17:26,304 --> 01:17:28,883 He is trying to censor the goddamn New York Times. 1478 01:17:28,908 --> 01:17:30,655 Yes, The Times, not The Post. 1479 01:17:30,702 --> 01:17:32,258 It's the same damn thing! 1480 01:17:32,283 --> 01:17:35,913 This is an historic fight. If they lose, we lose. 1481 01:17:36,458 --> 01:17:38,146 Hello, is someone on the phone? 1482 01:17:38,357 --> 01:17:39,396 This is Phil. 1483 01:17:39,474 --> 01:17:41,115 Is that Phil Geyelin? 1484 01:17:41,216 --> 01:17:43,482 Uh, yes, Mrs. Graham. 1485 01:17:43,617 --> 01:17:45,749 Good, I'd like you to weigh in if you would. 1486 01:17:45,835 --> 01:17:49,261 because I-I want to know what staff is feeling about this. 1487 01:17:49,543 --> 01:17:52,269 Uh, well, frankly, Mrs. Graham, 1488 01:17:52,294 --> 01:17:56,528 Ben Bagdikian and Chal Roberts have uh, both threatened to resign. 1489 01:17:56,688 --> 01:17:59,149 If we don't publish, that is. 1490 01:17:59,174 --> 01:18:00,517 Come on, Kay, what do you expect? 1491 01:18:00,542 --> 01:18:01,565 You've got nothing to lose. 1492 01:18:01,590 --> 01:18:02,515 Due respect, we all 1493 01:18:02,546 --> 01:18:04,569 have everything to lose if we don't publish 1494 01:18:04,594 --> 01:18:07,106 What will happen to the reputation of this paper? 1495 01:18:07,351 --> 01:18:09,594 Everyone will find out we had the study. 1496 01:18:09,719 --> 01:18:11,500 Hell, I bet half the town knows already. 1497 01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:13,914 What will it look like if we sit on our asses? 1498 01:18:13,939 --> 01:18:15,328 It'll look like we were prudent. 1499 01:18:15,375 --> 01:18:16,985 It will look like we were afraid. 1500 01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:19,985 We will lose. The country will lose. Nixon wins. 1501 01:18:20,153 --> 01:18:21,941 Nixon wins this one, and the next one. 1502 01:18:21,981 --> 01:18:23,973 And all the ones after that because we were scared. 1503 01:18:24,012 --> 01:18:27,480 Because the only way to assert the right to publish is to publish. 1504 01:18:32,074 --> 01:18:35,300 Fritz, i-is Fritz-Fritz there? 1505 01:18:37,332 --> 01:18:38,800 Fritz are you on? 1506 01:18:39,855 --> 01:18:41,206 I'm here, Kay. 1507 01:18:44,685 --> 01:18:46,349 W-What do you think? 1508 01:18:48,357 --> 01:18:50,467 W-What do you think I should do? 1509 01:18:53,528 --> 01:18:54,700 I think... 1510 01:18:55,465 --> 01:18:58,028 there are arguments on both sides. 1511 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,699 But I guess I wouldn't publish. 1512 01:19:26,978 --> 01:19:28,384 Let's-Let's go. 1513 01:19:28,525 --> 01:19:29,525 Let's-Let's do it. 1514 01:19:29,580 --> 01:19:30,259 Let's-Let's-- 1515 01:19:30,338 --> 01:19:31,704 Let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's-- 1516 01:19:31,775 --> 01:19:33,181 Let's publish. 1517 01:19:37,641 --> 01:19:38,828 -What? -Phil? 1518 01:19:38,954 --> 01:19:40,157 -What? -What'd she say? 1519 01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:42,742 We go. 1520 01:19:45,047 --> 01:19:47,273 She says we publish. 1521 01:19:48,210 --> 01:19:49,304 -Hot damn. -My God. 1522 01:19:49,391 --> 01:19:51,006 -Holy shit. -Let's get this out. 1523 01:19:51,194 --> 01:19:52,327 Holy shit. 1524 01:19:53,073 --> 01:19:54,362 -I need that, Meg. -Oh, sorry. 1525 01:19:54,703 --> 01:19:55,597 W-W-Wait, 1526 01:19:55,622 --> 01:19:56,723 -I need the notes. -Sorry, sorry. 1527 01:19:56,817 --> 01:19:58,169 We got uh, 1528 01:19:58,498 --> 01:19:59,498 two hours to get it to the... 1529 01:19:59,826 --> 01:20:01,037 I got it, hold on. 1530 01:20:04,495 --> 01:20:06,308 -W-W-Wait, who' takin' it? -I got it. 1531 01:20:06,402 --> 01:20:09,449 All right, call uh national desk, tell 'em Bagdikian's coming with us. 1532 01:20:09,550 --> 01:20:10,558 Done! 1533 01:20:11,181 --> 01:20:12,720 All right, get it in the paper. 1534 01:20:12,775 --> 01:20:13,955 Editorial meeting. 1535 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:15,688 -Ben. -Yes. 1536 01:20:25,513 --> 01:20:27,068 -That it? -That's it. 1537 01:20:38,092 --> 01:20:39,904 You, you got half an hour. 1538 01:20:51,194 --> 01:20:54,023 I'm uh, I'm not sure how much thought 1539 01:20:54,426 --> 01:20:56,591 you put into this decision, but we still have time. 1540 01:20:56,616 --> 01:20:58,404 The print deadline's not till midnight. 1541 01:20:58,466 --> 01:21:00,604 I know when the print deadline is. 1542 01:21:00,666 --> 01:21:02,729 Look, I'm still, uh, learning how to do this, 1543 01:21:02,754 --> 01:21:04,346 but everything I know about business tells me 1544 01:21:04,378 --> 01:21:06,706 you're making a serious mistake here. 1545 01:21:06,754 --> 01:21:08,355 One that will cost you and your paper dearly. 1546 01:21:08,380 --> 01:21:10,301 And hurt every person gathered here, 1547 01:21:10,326 --> 01:21:13,036 not to mention the hundreds of others who work for you. 1548 01:21:13,107 --> 01:21:15,176 I'm just trying to put my thoughts together. 1549 01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:18,965 Kay, all I want is-is what is best for you and your business. 1550 01:21:19,771 --> 01:21:22,427 But I just got off the phone with a couple of bankers, 1551 01:21:22,770 --> 01:21:25,872 and they think it's possible, likely even, 1552 01:21:26,059 --> 01:21:29,075 that a number of their institutional investors will pull out 1553 01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:32,088 if you go ahead and publish, and if they pull out... 1554 01:21:32,634 --> 01:21:33,509 Kay. 1555 01:21:35,072 --> 01:21:36,791 You got a couple of hours. 1556 01:21:37,744 --> 01:21:38,767 For your sake 1557 01:21:38,792 --> 01:21:41,150 and for the sake of everyone of your employees, 1558 01:21:41,182 --> 01:21:43,330 I hope you will reconsider. 1559 01:21:50,482 --> 01:21:51,638 Give me a canister. 1560 01:21:57,636 --> 01:21:59,762 Get it downstairs, and I want the page editor 1561 01:21:59,787 --> 01:22:02,066 standin' over lino till they got it ready to print. 1562 01:22:02,091 --> 01:22:02,832 Okay. 1563 01:22:07,150 --> 01:22:08,330 Mr. Bagdikian. 1564 01:22:14,057 --> 01:22:15,666 I need to know your source. 1565 01:22:16,547 --> 01:22:18,242 I thought I was clear earlier. 1566 01:22:19,303 --> 01:22:21,545 Well, we weren't going to press earlier. 1567 01:22:21,576 --> 01:22:23,342 Yeah, well, my answer's the same. 1568 01:22:24,335 --> 01:22:27,100 "This action has been commenced to enjoin The New York Times 1569 01:22:27,133 --> 01:22:29,538 "and their agents from further disseminating or disclosing 1570 01:22:29,624 --> 01:22:31,326 certain alleged top secret documents" 1571 01:22:31,412 --> 01:22:33,140 Are you trying to piss me off? 1572 01:22:33,319 --> 01:22:35,303 No, not me, Judge Gurfein. 1573 01:22:35,328 --> 01:22:37,288 If you look at the text of his restraining order-- 1574 01:22:37,397 --> 01:22:39,100 I read his restraining order. 1575 01:22:39,367 --> 01:22:42,265 So then you know that if The Times was your source, we would be in 1576 01:22:42,343 --> 01:22:44,101 -direct violation of-- -I did not get the study 1577 01:22:44,140 --> 01:22:45,476 from The Times. 1578 01:22:46,337 --> 01:22:47,274 You're sure? 1579 01:22:47,938 --> 01:22:48,922 We done? 1580 01:22:53,188 --> 01:22:54,852 Did you get it from their source? 1581 01:23:02,423 --> 01:23:03,579 Excuse me? 1582 01:23:06,698 --> 01:23:08,425 Did you get the study 1583 01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:11,112 from the same source as The Times? 1584 01:23:13,972 --> 01:23:15,769 We do not reveal our sources. 1585 01:23:17,599 --> 01:23:19,497 "This action has been commenced to enjoin 1586 01:23:19,522 --> 01:23:21,146 "The New York Times and its agents--" 1587 01:23:21,208 --> 01:23:23,489 -I get it, I get it. -from disseminating or disclosing... 1588 01:23:26,661 --> 01:23:28,559 If you got the study from the same source, 1589 01:23:28,708 --> 01:23:30,497 that would amount to collusion. 1590 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:33,311 Yeah, we could all be executed at dawn. 1591 01:23:34,811 --> 01:23:37,022 And we could be held in contempt of court. 1592 01:23:37,967 --> 01:23:40,780 Which means Mr. Bradlee and Mrs. Graham could go to jail. 1593 01:23:45,414 --> 01:23:46,765 Mr. Bagdikian, 1594 01:23:48,179 --> 01:23:49,687 how likely is it 1595 01:23:50,211 --> 01:23:51,570 that your source 1596 01:23:51,856 --> 01:23:54,083 and The Times' source are the same person? 1597 01:23:56,346 --> 01:23:57,541 It's likely. 1598 01:23:59,573 --> 01:24:00,557 How likely? 1599 01:24:03,468 --> 01:24:04,390 Very. 1600 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,460 -It's very likely. -Yes. 1601 01:24:18,614 --> 01:24:19,965 What is all this? 1602 01:24:20,614 --> 01:24:22,364 Lemonade earnings. 1603 01:24:23,635 --> 01:24:26,776 Marina wanted me to put it away for safekeeping. 1604 01:24:26,801 --> 01:24:27,893 Ah, wow. 1605 01:24:32,888 --> 01:24:33,927 We're publishing. 1606 01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:39,044 Wow. 1607 01:24:42,130 --> 01:24:43,974 I didn't think Kay'd do it. 1608 01:24:47,318 --> 01:24:48,514 That's brave. 1609 01:24:49,951 --> 01:24:51,865 Well, she's not the only one who's brave. 1610 01:24:52,626 --> 01:24:55,673 Oh, what have you got to lose? 1611 01:24:55,907 --> 01:24:57,376 Uh, my job. 1612 01:24:57,736 --> 01:25:00,649 -My reputation. -Oh, Ben, please. 1613 01:25:01,982 --> 01:25:04,396 We both know this will do nothing but 1614 01:25:04,442 --> 01:25:06,489 burnish your reputation. 1615 01:25:07,097 --> 01:25:10,917 And as for your job, you can always find another one. 1616 01:25:13,184 --> 01:25:15,598 If you're tryin' to make me feel better, 1617 01:25:15,754 --> 01:25:17,332 there's nicer ways to do it. 1618 01:25:20,116 --> 01:25:21,366 You're very brave. 1619 01:25:24,283 --> 01:25:25,283 But Kay... 1620 01:25:26,759 --> 01:25:30,439 Kay is in a position she never thought she'd be in. 1621 01:25:31,226 --> 01:25:33,116 A position I'm sure plenty of people 1622 01:25:33,141 --> 01:25:34,991 don't think she should have. 1623 01:25:36,038 --> 01:25:39,663 And when you're told time and time again that you're not good enough, 1624 01:25:39,741 --> 01:25:42,421 that your opinion doesn't matter as much, 1625 01:25:43,902 --> 01:25:46,269 when they don't just look past you, 1626 01:25:47,355 --> 01:25:49,996 when to them, you're not even there, 1627 01:25:51,348 --> 01:25:53,739 when that's been your reality for so long 1628 01:25:53,764 --> 01:25:56,184 it's hard not to let yourself think it's true. 1629 01:25:57,716 --> 01:25:59,950 So, to make this decision, 1630 01:26:00,677 --> 01:26:03,036 to risk her fortune and the company 1631 01:26:03,061 --> 01:26:05,411 that's been her entire life, 1632 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,071 well, I think that's brave. 1633 01:26:15,618 --> 01:26:17,415 -Bradlee. -Ben. 1634 01:26:17,501 --> 01:26:19,000 We got a problem. 1635 01:26:30,125 --> 01:26:31,453 Remember this? 1636 01:26:33,844 --> 01:26:35,719 -The day before the funeral. -Yeah. 1637 01:26:35,744 --> 01:26:36,875 Wasn't it? 1638 01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:38,578 Yeah. 1639 01:26:40,669 --> 01:26:43,326 I didn't...I didn't want to do it, but 1640 01:26:44,045 --> 01:26:46,670 Fritz said I should go in and 1641 01:26:46,702 --> 01:26:49,373 say a few words to the board and 1642 01:26:49,907 --> 01:26:50,938 so, 1643 01:26:51,384 --> 01:26:54,337 I-I tried to rehearse something 1644 01:26:54,751 --> 01:26:57,150 but it all turned out so awful 1645 01:26:57,227 --> 01:26:59,618 and before I knew it, the car was there ready to take me 1646 01:26:59,643 --> 01:27:01,532 and then you came out. 1647 01:27:02,306 --> 01:27:03,454 I remember. 1648 01:27:03,939 --> 01:27:07,111 You came out in your little nightgown and your robe. 1649 01:27:07,769 --> 01:27:11,207 You hopped in the car with me, gave me this. 1650 01:27:12,699 --> 01:27:16,418 Somehow, you managed to scribble these notes for me 1651 01:27:17,699 --> 01:27:19,660 so I'd know what to say. 1652 01:27:21,074 --> 01:27:23,425 Well, I-I don't have my glasses up here. 1653 01:27:23,636 --> 01:27:26,568 -So, just read it for me. -Mummy. 1654 01:27:26,623 --> 01:27:29,162 Oh, come on, just, would you read it to me? 1655 01:27:33,528 --> 01:27:35,598 One, thank them. 1656 01:27:36,215 --> 01:27:37,364 Two, 1657 01:27:37,801 --> 01:27:41,192 there has been a crisis but you know they will carry on. 1658 01:27:41,262 --> 01:27:44,387 Three, never expected to be in this 1659 01:27:45,239 --> 01:27:46,949 situation. 1660 01:27:48,064 --> 01:27:51,291 Four, going off to clear mind 1661 01:27:51,316 --> 01:27:53,377 and think about the future. 1662 01:27:53,438 --> 01:27:58,226 Five, no changes at this time, paper will remain in the family. 1663 01:27:58,524 --> 01:28:01,539 And six, and be carried on in the tradition 1664 01:28:01,594 --> 01:28:03,781 -and so well said. -So well said 1665 01:28:05,461 --> 01:28:09,422 You know, I just wanted to hold on to the company 1666 01:28:09,490 --> 01:28:10,888 for you and Don 1667 01:28:10,913 --> 01:28:12,662 -and Willie and Stephen. -You did. 1668 01:28:12,882 --> 01:28:14,640 -You have. -Well. 1669 01:28:17,782 --> 01:28:19,009 You know that quote-- 1670 01:28:21,321 --> 01:28:22,306 The quote, 1671 01:28:22,491 --> 01:28:27,959 "A woman preaching is like a dog walking on its hind legs, 1672 01:28:28,108 --> 01:28:30,857 "it's not done well and 1673 01:28:30,975 --> 01:28:34,631 "you're surprised to see it's done at all." 1674 01:28:35,344 --> 01:28:37,625 -Samuel Johnson. -Oh, Mummy. 1675 01:28:37,734 --> 01:28:39,943 That's a bunch of nonsense. 1676 01:28:39,998 --> 01:28:42,740 No, but that's the way we all thought then. 1677 01:28:43,844 --> 01:28:44,735 You know. 1678 01:28:45,563 --> 01:28:48,477 I was never supposed to be in this job. 1679 01:28:50,860 --> 01:28:54,946 When my father chose your dad to run the company, 1680 01:28:55,338 --> 01:28:57,752 I thought it was the most natural thing in the world. 1681 01:28:57,830 --> 01:29:00,314 I was so proud because, you know, 1682 01:29:00,339 --> 01:29:04,572 Phil was so brilliant and he was 1683 01:29:07,580 --> 01:29:09,322 so gifted and 1684 01:29:10,580 --> 01:29:13,564 but I thought that was the way it was supposed to be. 1685 01:29:13,759 --> 01:29:15,689 Everybody thought that way then. 1686 01:29:17,671 --> 01:29:20,234 And I was raising you kids and 1687 01:29:22,124 --> 01:29:24,218 I was happy 1688 01:29:24,405 --> 01:29:28,763 in my life the way it was. 1689 01:29:31,175 --> 01:29:34,167 But then when it all fell apart, you know, when 1690 01:29:38,738 --> 01:29:41,317 when Phil died, it was just 1691 01:29:41,574 --> 01:29:45,019 I was forty-five years old and I had never held a 1692 01:29:45,074 --> 01:29:48,176 I'd never had to hold a job in my life. 1693 01:29:50,837 --> 01:29:54,899 But I just, I loved the paper, you know, I do. 1694 01:29:55,596 --> 01:29:59,799 I do so love the paper, I don't want it to be my fault 1695 01:29:59,846 --> 01:30:01,698 I don't want to be the one who... 1696 01:30:02,465 --> 01:30:04,527 I don't want to let 1697 01:30:04,692 --> 01:30:08,155 Phil and my father and all of you kids 1698 01:30:08,180 --> 01:30:10,202 and everybody down. 1699 01:30:11,710 --> 01:30:12,890 Mrs. Graham? 1700 01:30:21,977 --> 01:30:23,250 You ran here? 1701 01:30:23,485 --> 01:30:24,500 Yeah. 1702 01:30:25,969 --> 01:30:27,657 There's been a bit of a uh, 1703 01:30:28,305 --> 01:30:29,758 a complication. 1704 01:30:30,852 --> 01:30:34,383 I didn't understand at first but now everything is of a different light. 1705 01:30:34,417 --> 01:30:37,761 Our source might be the same as The New York Times'. 1706 01:30:38,042 --> 01:30:38,894 Okay. 1707 01:30:40,042 --> 01:30:42,472 If so, we could be held in contempt. 1708 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:43,972 Meaning? 1709 01:30:44,632 --> 01:30:46,374 Well, we could all go to prison. 1710 01:30:49,944 --> 01:30:51,436 Now putting that aside, 1711 01:30:53,066 --> 01:30:56,105 Katharine, I-I've come to realize just 1712 01:30:57,387 --> 01:30:59,754 just how much you have at stake. 1713 01:31:28,638 --> 01:31:30,099 Paul, I'm glad you're here. 1714 01:31:30,170 --> 01:31:31,888 Fritz is sitting with Mrs. Graham now. 1715 01:31:31,928 --> 01:31:33,912 -Ben is here. -Yes, I figured he would be. 1716 01:31:58,350 --> 01:31:59,358 -Jesus Christ. -Mr. Bradlee, 1717 01:31:59,383 --> 01:32:01,940 if you knew Mr. Bagdikian received the study from 1718 01:32:01,987 --> 01:32:03,377 -the same source at the time, -Well, I didn't know because 1719 01:32:03,402 --> 01:32:04,816 -that would have been useful... -I'm not in the habit of asking 1720 01:32:04,841 --> 01:32:06,623 my reporters who their sources are, 1721 01:32:06,648 --> 01:32:07,960 and if you've spent any time in a real 1722 01:32:08,015 --> 01:32:09,482 goddamn newspaper, you'd know why. 1723 01:32:09,507 --> 01:32:11,124 You understand he's trying to help you, Ben? 1724 01:32:11,484 --> 01:32:13,343 Mrs. Graham, hi. 1725 01:32:14,157 --> 01:32:15,055 We can all- 1726 01:32:15,094 --> 01:32:17,828 We can all appreciate why Ben wants to publish 1727 01:32:18,087 --> 01:32:19,395 and if these papers had come from someone else, 1728 01:32:19,420 --> 01:32:21,701 we might have been able to skirt the issue. 1729 01:32:23,137 --> 01:32:25,176 Anything from the folks upstairs? 1730 01:32:25,216 --> 01:32:25,966 No. 1731 01:32:26,012 --> 01:32:26,965 We gotta start the run 1732 01:32:27,043 --> 01:32:29,840 or we won't get to the carriers on time. 1733 01:32:33,379 --> 01:32:36,941 I disagreed with you earlier, but I thought it brave, but this? 1734 01:32:37,027 --> 01:32:38,393 If we were to publish knowing this, 1735 01:32:38,467 --> 01:32:40,294 it would just be irresponsible. 1736 01:32:40,417 --> 01:32:42,230 Fritz, do you agree? 1737 01:32:43,128 --> 01:32:47,238 Well, I don't particularly like the idea of Kay as a convicted felon. 1738 01:32:48,418 --> 01:32:50,128 And then there's the issue of the prospectus. 1739 01:32:50,153 --> 01:32:52,464 Based on the conversations I've had with my friends at Kravath, 1740 01:32:52,535 --> 01:32:54,448 I believe a criminal indictment would 1741 01:32:54,473 --> 01:32:56,519 qualify as a catastrophic event. 1742 01:32:56,817 --> 01:32:59,207 And given the likelihood of indictment now... 1743 01:33:01,614 --> 01:33:02,526 Kay, it could-- 1744 01:33:02,551 --> 01:33:04,660 Yes, I...I understand. 1745 01:33:06,677 --> 01:33:09,926 We uh, we have a responsibility to the company, to the- 1746 01:33:09,973 --> 01:33:13,356 all the employees and to the long term health of the paper. 1747 01:33:14,153 --> 01:33:15,567 Absolutely, Kay. 1748 01:33:19,013 --> 01:33:21,981 Yes. However, um... 1749 01:33:29,837 --> 01:33:32,338 The prospectus also talks about 1750 01:33:32,485 --> 01:33:34,533 the mission of the paper which is 1751 01:33:35,307 --> 01:33:37,604 outstanding news collection and reporting, 1752 01:33:37,629 --> 01:33:38,674 isn't that right? 1753 01:33:38,830 --> 01:33:39,541 Yes. 1754 01:33:39,674 --> 01:33:40,619 And... 1755 01:33:40,947 --> 01:33:43,354 And it also says 1756 01:33:43,557 --> 01:33:45,166 that the newspaper will be dedicated 1757 01:33:45,191 --> 01:33:46,979 to the welfare of the nation 1758 01:33:47,017 --> 01:33:49,822 and to the, uh... principles of a free press. 1759 01:33:49,847 --> 01:33:50,740 Yes, but... 1760 01:33:50,765 --> 01:33:51,685 So, 1761 01:33:51,974 --> 01:33:53,717 one could argue 1762 01:33:53,881 --> 01:33:55,904 that the bankers were put on notice. 1763 01:33:55,929 --> 01:33:58,131 But Kay, these are extraordinary circumstances. 1764 01:33:58,182 --> 01:34:01,323 Are they? Are they? For a newspaper? 1765 01:34:01,487 --> 01:34:03,745 One that covers the Nixon White House? 1766 01:34:03,901 --> 01:34:06,752 Can you guarantee me that we could go to print 1767 01:34:06,777 --> 01:34:09,041 without endangering any of our soldiers-- 1768 01:34:09,066 --> 01:34:10,119 You can't be considering-- 1769 01:34:10,198 --> 01:34:12,104 I'm talking to Mr. Bradlee now. 1770 01:34:16,547 --> 01:34:19,547 Fritz, you're not gonna let her do this, she can't-- 1771 01:34:19,578 --> 01:34:21,922 Oh, no, she can, Arthur. 1772 01:34:21,947 --> 01:34:23,547 And it's entirely her decision. 1773 01:34:23,572 --> 01:34:25,097 Kay, you're allowing Mr. Bradlee 1774 01:34:25,175 --> 01:34:27,640 to uh, t-t-to lead you to folly. 1775 01:34:27,668 --> 01:34:29,417 The legacy of the company is at stake. 1776 01:34:29,442 --> 01:34:30,213 -And if you want to -Arthur. 1777 01:34:30,238 --> 01:34:31,480 protect that legacy, 1778 01:34:31,949 --> 01:34:33,840 This company has been in my life 1779 01:34:33,865 --> 01:34:36,559 for longer than most of the people working there have been alive 1780 01:34:36,584 --> 01:34:39,403 so I don't need the lecture on legacy. 1781 01:34:41,321 --> 01:34:44,251 And this is no longer my father's company. 1782 01:34:45,306 --> 01:34:47,408 It's no longer my husband's company. 1783 01:34:47,658 --> 01:34:49,009 It's my company. 1784 01:34:49,878 --> 01:34:51,691 And anyone who thinks otherwise 1785 01:34:51,716 --> 01:34:53,816 probably doesn't belong on my board. 1786 01:34:54,848 --> 01:34:56,817 Can you guarantee me that we-- 1787 01:34:56,848 --> 01:34:58,309 One hundred percent. 1788 01:34:58,457 --> 01:34:59,488 All right then. 1789 01:35:00,677 --> 01:35:02,544 My decision stands. 1790 01:35:03,630 --> 01:35:04,520 And I'm 1791 01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:06,747 going to bed. 1792 01:35:23,606 --> 01:35:24,427 It's Ben Bradlee. 1793 01:35:24,567 --> 01:35:25,208 Run it. 1794 01:35:25,348 --> 01:35:25,981 Yes, sir. 1795 01:35:26,629 --> 01:35:27,387 Start it up. 1796 01:36:28,442 --> 01:36:29,371 Here we go. 1797 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:45,043 Let's go! Let's go! 1798 01:36:48,442 --> 01:36:49,582 More here! 1799 01:37:02,322 --> 01:37:04,096 I've got the Assistant Attorney General. 1800 01:37:04,221 --> 01:37:05,197 Put him on. 1801 01:37:06,515 --> 01:37:07,726 Good morning. 1802 01:37:07,883 --> 01:37:09,523 Good morning, this is William Rehnquist 1803 01:37:09,548 --> 01:37:12,054 from the office of legal counsel at Justice. 1804 01:37:12,156 --> 01:37:13,093 Yes, sir. 1805 01:37:13,562 --> 01:37:16,546 Mr. Bradlee, I have been advised by the Secretary of Defense 1806 01:37:16,571 --> 01:37:19,981 that the material published in The Washington Post this morning 1807 01:37:20,059 --> 01:37:21,664 contains the information relating 1808 01:37:21,727 --> 01:37:24,071 to the national defense of the United States 1809 01:37:24,133 --> 01:37:26,727 and bears a top secret classification. 1810 01:37:26,956 --> 01:37:29,612 As such the publication of this information 1811 01:37:29,799 --> 01:37:32,369 is directly prohibited by the Espionage Act, 1812 01:37:32,403 --> 01:37:34,815 Title 18 of the United States Code, 1813 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,761 Section 793. 1814 01:37:36,953 --> 01:37:39,961 As publication will cause irreparable injury 1815 01:37:39,986 --> 01:37:42,438 to the defense interests of the United States, 1816 01:37:42,631 --> 01:37:45,146 I respectfully request that you publish no further 1817 01:37:45,171 --> 01:37:47,420 information of this character. 1818 01:37:47,898 --> 01:37:50,280 And advise me that you have made arrangements 1819 01:37:50,374 --> 01:37:52,257 for the return of these documents 1820 01:37:52,282 --> 01:37:54,101 to the Department of Defense. 1821 01:37:54,206 --> 01:37:56,401 Well, thank you for the call, Mr. Rehnquist. 1822 01:37:56,426 --> 01:38:00,034 But I'm sure you understand, I must respectfully decline. 1823 01:38:01,112 --> 01:38:02,784 I appreciate your time. 1824 01:38:07,672 --> 01:38:08,727 What's next? 1825 01:38:08,930 --> 01:38:09,969 We're going to court. 1826 01:38:10,290 --> 01:38:11,211 Today. 1827 01:38:11,391 --> 01:38:14,219 If we get a ruling in our favor or The Times does, 1828 01:38:14,719 --> 01:38:17,415 we'll be at the Supreme Court sometime next week. 1829 01:38:31,647 --> 01:38:33,202 We're focusing on Johnson. 1830 01:38:35,372 --> 01:38:38,247 I don't want any more arguments, it's about shoes and about dresses. 1831 01:38:39,675 --> 01:38:40,503 Sorry. 1832 01:38:45,264 --> 01:38:47,022 Your Honor, the stories published in The Times 1833 01:38:47,047 --> 01:38:49,756 and now The Post have created a diplomatic and security disaster 1834 01:38:49,789 --> 01:38:51,328 for the United States. 1835 01:38:51,365 --> 01:38:54,662 How exactly have these papers created a diplomatic disaster? 1836 01:38:54,687 --> 01:38:56,911 Why would other countries talk to us in confidence 1837 01:38:56,936 --> 01:38:58,685 if secrets like these can be leaked? 1838 01:38:58,734 --> 01:39:01,101 So, does this make it difficult for the President to govern? 1839 01:39:01,170 --> 01:39:03,771 If the President can't keep secrets, he can't govern. 1840 01:39:04,128 --> 01:39:08,042 Nothing less than the integrity of the presidency is at stake. 1841 01:39:08,683 --> 01:39:10,003 Yes, I know. 1842 01:39:10,339 --> 01:39:12,566 I'm sure it has rattled investors, Terry. 1843 01:39:12,691 --> 01:39:14,042 That's why I'm calling you. 1844 01:39:15,002 --> 01:39:18,439 Yes, I understand a number of them have considered pulling out 1845 01:39:18,464 --> 01:39:19,643 but we feel... 1846 01:39:21,291 --> 01:39:24,440 Of course. I stand behind the decision. 1847 01:39:30,363 --> 01:39:32,307 Well, you know, one could argue it's 1848 01:39:32,332 --> 01:39:34,371 raising the profile of The Post. 1849 01:39:36,701 --> 01:39:40,029 Would The Post have published military plans for D-Day 1850 01:39:40,271 --> 01:39:41,959 if they'd had them in advance? 1851 01:39:43,238 --> 01:39:45,510 Well, I don't think there's any comparison 1852 01:39:45,535 --> 01:39:47,527 between a pending invasion of Europe 1853 01:39:47,573 --> 01:39:51,394 and a historical survey of American involvement in the Vietnam war. 1854 01:39:53,503 --> 01:39:56,745 The Supreme Court has decided to hold a hearing tomorrow morning 1855 01:39:56,933 --> 01:39:59,870 to resolve the tangle of conflicting decisions 1856 01:40:00,019 --> 01:40:02,550 over what of the Pentagon papers can be published 1857 01:40:02,644 --> 01:40:05,058 and more broadly, the issue of freedom of the press 1858 01:40:05,083 --> 01:40:06,855 versus government security. 1859 01:40:07,290 --> 01:40:08,875 But in agreeing to hear the cases 1860 01:40:08,900 --> 01:40:10,388 of The New York Times and The Washington Post-- 1861 01:40:10,428 --> 01:40:12,701 The Supremes granted us a 1862 01:40:13,295 --> 01:40:15,037 emergency expedited basis-- 1863 01:40:15,154 --> 01:40:16,740 We're in court with The Times tomorrow. 1864 01:40:18,967 --> 01:40:20,810 What are you so happy about? 1865 01:40:26,811 --> 01:40:28,413 I always wanted to be part 1866 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,132 of a small rebellion. 1867 01:40:40,423 --> 01:40:44,572 I ask him what he considers the most important revelations to date 1868 01:40:44,642 --> 01:40:46,103 from the Pentagon documents. 1869 01:40:46,334 --> 01:40:48,396 I think the lesson is the people of this country 1870 01:40:48,421 --> 01:40:51,662 can't afford to let the President run the country by himself-- 1871 01:40:52,449 --> 01:40:54,972 even foreign affairs any more than domestic affairs 1872 01:40:54,997 --> 01:40:56,465 without the help of Congress. 1873 01:40:56,551 --> 01:40:58,738 I was struck in fact by President Johnson's reaction 1874 01:40:58,763 --> 01:41:01,237 to these revelations as close to treason. 1875 01:41:01,534 --> 01:41:03,862 Because it reflected to me the sense 1876 01:41:03,917 --> 01:41:05,870 that what was damaging to the reputation 1877 01:41:05,895 --> 01:41:08,932 of a particular administration-- a particular individual 1878 01:41:09,042 --> 01:41:10,972 was, in itself, treason 1879 01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:14,331 which is very close to saying, "I am The State." 1880 01:41:22,213 --> 01:41:23,143 Ben. 1881 01:41:26,710 --> 01:41:28,593 What on Earth are you doing? 1882 01:41:36,864 --> 01:41:37,794 Oh. 1883 01:41:41,833 --> 01:41:42,732 Oh. 1884 01:41:45,149 --> 01:41:47,563 They all followed your lead, published the papers. 1885 01:41:48,930 --> 01:41:50,594 At least we're not alone. 1886 01:41:52,036 --> 01:41:53,652 No matter what happens tomorrow, 1887 01:41:53,677 --> 01:41:56,254 we are not a little local paper anymore. 1888 01:41:56,700 --> 01:41:57,473 Hm. 1889 01:42:16,963 --> 01:42:18,213 I'm sorry. 1890 01:42:22,229 --> 01:42:25,141 Mrs. Graham, there's an entrance over on the side for the appellates. 1891 01:42:25,197 --> 01:42:26,784 Oh, thank you very much. 1892 01:42:28,385 --> 01:42:30,158 I'm sorry I'm walking so fast. 1893 01:42:30,183 --> 01:42:32,294 I was supposed to be here half hour ago 1894 01:42:32,319 --> 01:42:33,740 but then I had to make copies of the brief 1895 01:42:33,765 --> 01:42:35,224 and there was so much traffic and I 1896 01:42:35,435 --> 01:42:37,013 just wouldn't think there'd be all these people. 1897 01:42:37,038 --> 01:42:38,474 Well, no, you wouldn't. 1898 01:42:38,499 --> 01:42:39,951 You work for Roger Clark, then? 1899 01:42:40,021 --> 01:42:41,419 I work for the government. 1900 01:42:41,751 --> 01:42:43,556 the Solicitor General's office. 1901 01:42:43,626 --> 01:42:45,361 Oh, you're on the other team. 1902 01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:46,611 Mrs. Graham, 1903 01:42:47,185 --> 01:42:49,238 I probably shouldn't say this. 1904 01:42:49,302 --> 01:42:51,396 Um...my brother... 1905 01:42:51,896 --> 01:42:53,607 he's still over there. 1906 01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:55,351 And... 1907 01:42:56,968 --> 01:42:58,210 Well, I hope you win. 1908 01:43:00,193 --> 01:43:02,966 Besides, I like someone telling these guys what's what. 1909 01:43:03,013 --> 01:43:04,528 But don't tell my boss I said that. 1910 01:43:04,552 --> 01:43:06,521 He'd fire me just for talking to you. 1911 01:43:21,156 --> 01:43:22,234 I told you to be here at 8:00. 1912 01:43:22,367 --> 01:43:24,515 Yes, I was here at 8:00, but Richard sent me back. 1913 01:43:24,562 --> 01:43:25,644 Is Richard your boss? 1914 01:43:25,816 --> 01:43:27,793 No, but you weren't here, so-- 1915 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,855 I don't want excuses. Just take a seat. 1916 01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:33,782 -Mrs. Graham. -Morning. 1917 01:43:37,421 --> 01:43:38,937 Morning, gentlemen. 1918 01:43:39,007 --> 01:43:40,523 -Morning. -Punch, Ed. 1919 01:43:41,345 --> 01:43:43,626 Nice to be on the same side for a change. 1920 01:43:43,782 --> 01:43:45,017 I'll tell you what's nice. 1921 01:43:45,517 --> 01:43:48,423 Making the front page of your newspaper on the daily basis. 1922 01:43:49,089 --> 01:43:52,948 Must be a lot of people from Boston to Washington reading about us. 1923 01:43:53,172 --> 01:43:56,532 Yes, well, I suppose it's appropriate 1924 01:43:57,313 --> 01:43:59,071 given what's at stake. 1925 01:44:00,407 --> 01:44:01,969 All rise. 1926 01:44:04,996 --> 01:44:07,894 The Honorable the Chief Justice and the Associate Justices 1927 01:44:07,919 --> 01:44:10,465 of the Supreme Court of the United States. 1928 01:44:11,177 --> 01:44:14,747 All yea, all yea, all yea. 1929 01:44:15,572 --> 01:44:18,220 All persons having business before the Honorable... 1930 01:44:20,688 --> 01:44:22,148 Mr. Rosenthal! Mr. Rosenthal! 1931 01:44:22,297 --> 01:44:23,243 Sulzberger! 1932 01:44:23,484 --> 01:44:25,609 Sulzberger, do you think they'll side to your favor? 1933 01:44:25,688 --> 01:44:27,290 Overall we feel encouraged. 1934 01:44:28,173 --> 01:44:31,173 27 congressmen filed amicus briefs on our behalf. 1935 01:44:31,712 --> 01:44:32,923 As well as the ACLU... 1936 01:44:33,025 --> 01:44:35,387 -We should make a statement. -I think that's her job. 1937 01:44:35,412 --> 01:44:38,107 I believe everything we had to say we've already said. 1938 01:44:59,167 --> 01:45:00,378 Meg Greenfield. 1939 01:45:01,972 --> 01:45:02,753 Okay. 1940 01:45:03,113 --> 01:45:04,714 Everyone, listen up! 1941 01:45:05,082 --> 01:45:05,832 Listen up. 1942 01:45:06,175 --> 01:45:07,191 We've got a decision. 1943 01:45:07,683 --> 01:45:08,613 We've got a decision. 1944 01:45:14,219 --> 01:45:16,211 The Supreme Court, the decision's in. 1945 01:45:27,563 --> 01:45:28,665 The vote is... 1946 01:45:30,618 --> 01:45:32,172 Six to three... 1947 01:45:32,917 --> 01:45:35,940 Six to three, we win! We win! 1948 01:45:36,003 --> 01:45:37,541 And so does The Times! 1949 01:45:37,697 --> 01:45:38,518 Whoo! 1950 01:45:41,197 --> 01:45:42,009 Yes! 1951 01:45:45,314 --> 01:45:46,642 No shit. 1952 01:45:49,923 --> 01:45:50,892 Nice job, Gene. 1953 01:45:51,368 --> 01:45:52,165 Whoo! 1954 01:45:52,227 --> 01:45:54,211 -No gloating. -I'm just satisfied. 1955 01:45:59,279 --> 01:46:00,052 What? 1956 01:46:00,145 --> 01:46:01,912 I can't hear you, it's too loud. 1957 01:46:02,397 --> 01:46:03,171 Oh, okay. 1958 01:46:03,220 --> 01:46:05,009 Listen up, everybody, listen up. 1959 01:46:05,180 --> 01:46:07,013 Uh, Justice Black's opinion. 1960 01:46:07,083 --> 01:46:07,880 Okay. 1961 01:46:10,653 --> 01:46:13,270 The Founding Fathers gave the free press 1962 01:46:14,090 --> 01:46:16,012 the protection it must have 1963 01:46:19,249 --> 01:46:22,624 to fulfill its essential role in our democracy. 1964 01:46:26,675 --> 01:46:29,917 The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. 1965 01:46:35,424 --> 01:46:36,495 Thank you. 1966 01:46:55,496 --> 01:46:56,683 That's great. 1967 01:47:12,586 --> 01:47:16,071 Do you know what my husband said about the news? 1968 01:47:16,493 --> 01:47:19,345 He called it the first rough draft of history. 1969 01:47:20,009 --> 01:47:21,337 That's good isn't it? 1970 01:47:22,431 --> 01:47:25,110 Oh, well, we don't always get it right, you know. 1971 01:47:25,135 --> 01:47:27,821 We're not always perfect but I figure we just 1972 01:47:27,884 --> 01:47:29,486 keep on it, you know? 1973 01:47:29,573 --> 01:47:30,956 That's the job, isn't it? 1974 01:47:35,692 --> 01:47:36,723 Yes, it is. 1975 01:47:52,759 --> 01:47:55,423 Oh, Ken Clauson came by to see me earlier. 1976 01:47:55,448 --> 01:47:56,212 Oh? 1977 01:47:56,416 --> 01:47:58,541 Apparently Justice is still considering 1978 01:47:58,566 --> 01:48:00,252 criminal charges against us 1979 01:48:01,275 --> 01:48:02,861 And you're not worried? 1980 01:48:02,916 --> 01:48:05,072 Nope. No, Katharine, that's your job. 1981 01:48:05,205 --> 01:48:06,416 I suppose it is. 1982 01:48:06,666 --> 01:48:09,564 Oh, thank God, the court ruling was very clear. 1983 01:48:09,850 --> 01:48:11,186 Yeah, yeah, I know. 1984 01:48:11,272 --> 01:48:13,506 I'm sure Nixon will fall right in line. 1985 01:48:13,655 --> 01:48:15,795 Good. Because you know I don't think I could 1986 01:48:15,820 --> 01:48:18,171 ever live through something like this again. 1987 01:48:19,934 --> 01:48:23,340 I want it clearly understood that from now on, 1988 01:48:23,686 --> 01:48:24,506 never 1989 01:48:24,678 --> 01:48:26,967 no reporter from The Washington Post 1990 01:48:26,992 --> 01:48:29,194 is ever to be in The White House. Is that clear? 1991 01:48:29,219 --> 01:48:30,159 Absolutely. 1992 01:48:31,831 --> 01:48:33,730 Never, never in The White House. 1993 01:48:34,269 --> 01:48:35,995 No church service. 1994 01:48:36,152 --> 01:48:38,613 Nothing with Mrs. Nixon does, you tell Connie. 1995 01:48:38,722 --> 01:48:40,956 Don't tell Mrs. Nixon 'cause she'll approve it. 1996 01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,439 No reporter from The Washington Post 1997 01:48:43,464 --> 01:48:46,119 is ever to be in The White House again. 1998 01:48:46,189 --> 01:48:47,650 And no photographer either. 1999 01:48:47,815 --> 01:48:49,331 No photographer, is that clear? 2000 01:48:49,487 --> 01:48:51,518 None ever to be in. 2001 01:48:51,565 --> 01:48:53,221 That is a total order. 2002 01:48:53,268 --> 01:48:55,635 And if necessary, I'll fire you. You understand? 2003 01:48:55,690 --> 01:48:59,104 -I do understand. -Okay. All right. Good. 2004 01:49:19,843 --> 01:49:21,508 D.C. Police, 2nd Precinct. 2005 01:49:21,578 --> 01:49:23,195 Yes, hello, this is Frank Wills. 2006 01:49:23,323 --> 01:49:26,179 I think we might have a burglary in progress at the Watergate. 150480

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