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[narrator] In May, 2016 20-year-old
Michael Sandford's parents
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reported that he had gone
missing in America.
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Twenty-three days later,
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he turned up at a Donald Trump
campaign rally in Las Vegas.
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[cheering]
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I will build a great, great wall.
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Shortly after Trump took to the stage,
Michael approached a police officer.
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Seconds later, he attempted
to grab the officer's gun.
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[indistinct police communication]
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Are you serious, man,
what are you thinking?
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[crowd booing]
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We love our police.
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When questioned by the Secret Service,
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Michael stated he'd wanted
to shoot and kill Trump,
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saying he was a racist
that deserved to die.
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But how did a young British man
from Surrey
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end up trying to assassinate
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the most controversial
and high-profile man in the world?
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Donald J. Trump.
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[woman] We've always just been
a very, very close family unit.
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He thought Donald Trump
was the worst thing for the world.
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[woman] This is not a hardened criminal,
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this is just a young kid who found himself
in an awful situation.
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He tried to assassinate.
He was a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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[narrator] Michael is due to be sentenced
and could face decades in prison.
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Michael Sandford could have altered
the course of American history.
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[narrator] But were these
the actions of a boy
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with a history of mental health problems?
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He seemed just a totally different
personality from the boy I'd known.
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[woman] He's gonna spend
his 21st birthday in prison.
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Someone who really shouldn't be there.
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[narrator] Or was it
a premeditated attack?
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[man] When Michael was shooting,
he was doing this.
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Who was he working for?
Maybe he got radicalized.
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There's nothing I can tell him
that will make his situation any better.
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And I just want my son back.
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[man] I'm telling you
that violence is wrong.
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I disagree with that.
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[phone ringing]
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[automated voice]
This call is from an inmate facility.
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-Hi, son.
-[Michael] Hey.
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So what have you been up to today so far?
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Just all to myself.
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Yeah. What have you had to eat today?
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Uh, just potatoes.
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[coughs] So was porridge
not for breakfast today?
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I dropped it everywhere.
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-Oh, that wasn't very clever, was it?
-No.
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-Is that because you were shaking?
-Yeah.
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Oh... Have you had any more seizures?
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Um, a few, yeah.
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Hmm. Oh, dear, sorry to hear that.
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[Lynne] It's very hard to know that he's
there and we're so far away from him.
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All the calls are recorded and monitored.
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It's very impersonal.
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Sometimes he begs me not to go
and he rings me back again,
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he says, "I just want to keep
hearing your voice, Mum."
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[Lynne on phone] Now we're down
to our last minute, aren't we? So...
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-I love you very much.
-[Michael] I love you, Mum, I miss you.
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[Lynne] You too, son. Anyway, take care.
Look after yourself.
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[Michael] You too, take care.
I love you so much.
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[Lynne] I hope you manage to get
something else to eat today.
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[Michael] Thank you. I love you, Mum.
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I love you, too, darling.
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And Jessica does and Nan does
and Dad does and Mischief does.
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[automated voice] Your time is up.
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It cut off, you see.
Fifteen minutes, that's all you get.
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I feel weary.
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It's just the same everyday.
A phone call,
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I ask him what he's done
and the answers are always the same.
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What he's had to eat...
You know, it's not a life.
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It's barely an existence for him
out there at the moment.
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Just knowing that he is where he is
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and I'm powerless to do anything about it
is impossibly hard.
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[narrator] Michael's currently being held
in a maximum security prison
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in Nevada's Death Valley,
while he awaits sentencing.
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After admitting trying to kill Trump,
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he's entered a plea bargain
in a bid to reduce his sentence.
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But still faces the possibility
of a lengthy jail term.
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This is one of the most high-profile cases
I've dealt with
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and certainly it's a very complex case.
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The governor will be arguing
that this was not something
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that was a spur-of-the-moment
type of crime.
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This was something
that had been calculated.
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They're going to be arguing that this was
in fact a very dangerous situation
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and it could have resulted
in someone being murdered.
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The maximum under the law
is 20 years for Michael,
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so he could be looking at
many, many years in prison.
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[narrator] Before moving to America,
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Michael lived in Surrey with his mum
and half sister Jessica.
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[Lynne] I think that one's really cute.
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It's probably his first ever smile.
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None of us had any idea
what was ahead for us back then.
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You know, I sit and I look at these
pictures of him as an angelic little boy.
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I just think it's so tragic
that this is where his life is at,
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especially someone
who really shouldn't be there.
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[Lynne] He was very bright and bubbly
and cute and sweet and adorable.
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He was the apple of our eye.
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Funny.
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[Lynne] You're doing a funny?
Oh, you're doing a happy, smiley face,
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[Lynne] But I think we first noticed that
there might be problems when he was two.
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He would become quite hysterical
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when we would throw quite ordinary things
in the rubbish bin.
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That was the first sign that
he had some form of OCD.
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This, oddly enough, his key collection.
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He enjoyed collecting keys.
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When Michael was about eight,
his moods started to change.
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They were quite erratic at times,
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he seemed to become quite depressive
and angry.
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-Hello!
-Hello!
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I wondered if... because by then
I'd split up with his father.
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I wondered if it was some anger
at the breakup.
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But his mood swings and erratic nature
were starting to concern me by then.
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It says "Michael Sandford:
My Autobiography, age 13."
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It goes through all the usual things,
"My name is Michael Sandford, I'm 13,
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I live in Dorking with my mother, budgie
and hamster."
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This bit is... pretty sad. Um...
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"I'm wondering what the world
is coming to.
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They say the world will end when the sun
blows up in five billion years,
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but I believe humans will destroy it
long before then."
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That was something he was very worried
about, he was very worried about mankind.
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I guess that's been mirrored by
what he said about Donald Trump.
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He thought Donald Trump
was the worst thing for the world.
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[narrator] When Michael was 13,
he was diagnosed with Asperger's,
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a condition associated with
difficulties in social interaction.
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[Lynne] He was just falling apart.
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He was losing his grip on the world,
not knowing how to fit in or cope.
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[narrator] At secondary school,
he was bullied.
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He deliberately tried to run out
in front of cars sometimes
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in the hope he would get knocked over
to avoid going to school.
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I very much feel
the system failed Michael.
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I took him for help so many times
over so many years
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and nobody did anything
until it became almost too late.
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[narrator] Aged 14, Michael developed
severe anorexia as a result of his OCD
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and had to be sectioned
to a psychiatric hospital.
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[Lynne] He had said, you know, life
isn't worth living. I find it too hard.
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I was really frightened that
I was going to lose him. I was terrified.
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[Lynne] Off you go.
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Bye!
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-[man] What are you drawing?
-A rainbow.
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-[man] Who's that for?
-Michael, because I love him.
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He's very nice and good.
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And he wasn't very well a long time ago
and he did something wrong.
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So that's why he's in there now.
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[narrator] Michael's parents separated
when he was five years old,
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but he has always remained close
to his dad, Paul.
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[Paul] We all know our children
and we all know their personalities.
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If you're honest with yourself,
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you know whether somebody has
the potential to do something like that,
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or not.
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He's never shouted,
he's never screamed at me.
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That violent aspect of some kids' natures
just wasn't there with Michael.
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[narrator] Michael had never shown any
interest in politics, at home or abroad.
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But Paul noticed a significant change
when visiting him in prison,
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following his arrest.
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[Paul] He seemed very politicized,
very radical.
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Very logical but very highly motivated
about Mr. Trump
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and the effect that he may have
on the American people.
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Just a totally different personality
from the boy I'd known.
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Um... I've got a little box
with all his memories here.
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So all things like the newspaper cuttings
from before.
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Obviously newspaper cuttings from now.
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[man] Has he not told you why he did it
or what was going through his head?
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[Paul] No... I mean it's very difficult
for him to say anything to us.
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Everything he says and does is monitored.
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He will tell us all about it all,
I hope, when he's back at home,
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but at the moment
he's not told us anything, really.
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I mean, I think... although
it's quite a morbid thing to do,
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when Michael comes out, I'm sure
he's going to be quite interested
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in the news coverage from back home.
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[man] Why do you think he did it?
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The only thing I can possibly think of
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is he's been coerced, groomed,
whatever word you'd like to use.
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I mean, whether it was a structured group
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or whether it was just a few people with
a political agenda to kill Donald Trump,
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I don't know.
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Asperger's can make you look at things
very black and white.
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I think they saw Michael
and saw he was vulnerable.
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I think they saw a way to coerce him
into doing what they wanted him to do.
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I think whoever he was with has given him
ideas, because he wasn't my Michael.
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[narrator] Aged 18, Michael told his
parents he was planning to move to America
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to be with a girlfriend he'd met online.
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[Lynne] He just wanted to spread his
wings, have a bit of independence,
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and attempt to lead a normal life.
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He said he had to go
or he would attempt suicide again.
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He's 18, he's an adult.
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He's a vulnerable adult,
but you can't stop him doing anything.
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[narrator] Michael's family
used inheritance money
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to pay for a year's rent on a flat
in Hoboken, overlooking New York.
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He was the smallest, skinniest
person I'd ever met.
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The most polite person that I'd ever met.
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Michael never mentioned any girl to me,
or friends or anybody.
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As a matter of fact, I think I recall him
saying he knew nobody here.
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If Michael moved to Hoboken
for other reasons, I don't know.
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It does make you start to wonder.
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[Lynne] Initially, we heard from Michael
all the time.
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But his behavior became erratic.
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Sometimes we'd hear from him,
sometimes we wouldn't.
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He turned very nasty at one point.
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He said to me, "You've no idea
how much I hate, loathe and despise you."
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And that was the final straw for me.
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I said to him, "Who is putting
these thoughts in your mind?"
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Because he'd always been so loving.
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[narrator] On 26 May 2016,
having lost all contact with Michael,
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Lynne reported him missing
to the authorities.
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[Lynne] I was worried out my mind.
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I could only see it ending in a disaster.
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[narrator] During this period, police
now believe he'd been living out of a BMW
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bought using the money
he'd been given for rent.
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Michael didn't surface again
until the day of his arrest.
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[newsreader] Our headlines this morning:
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Donald Trump is celebrating
his astonishing victory...
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[narrator] Five weeks before
Michael is due to be sentenced,
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Donald Trump's remarkable rise
to the White House is confirmed.
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[newsreader] The Republican businessman
defeated his Democratic rival,
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scoring decisive victories...
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[newsreader 2] ...confounded the pollsters
and media pundits who predicted...
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[newsreader 3] So what will the rest of
the world make of these seismic events
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that took place overnight in America?
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We're going to get the view from London...
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[Lynne] I was up all night
watching the results.
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I t's obviously only been announced
in the last hour or so.
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There's no getting away from it now.
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I mean, he is going to be President
for the next four years
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and, like it or lump it,
we've got to get on with it.
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[narrator] It's a result
that could have an impact
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on the length of Michael's jail term.
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We have sentencing coming up next month
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and whether Donald Trump will choose
to make an example of Michael
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remains to be seen.
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-Thank you.
-[crowd chanting "USA"]
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Thank you very much, everybody.
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He was looking forward to sentencing
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and hoping that there might be
a favorable outcome
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but I think this result casts
a potentially very big shadow over that.
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Now it's time for America to...
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I'm very worried that he will either
lose his mind completely
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or commit suicide
if he had the opportunity.
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It just made everything so much harder
and so much more complicated for Michael.
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For those who have chosen
not to support me in the past,
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of which there were a few people...
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[laughter]
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[Lynne] I feel powerless.
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You know, I want to be able
to keep him strong and to give him hope,
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but a lot of that hope was dashed
last night with the outcome of this.
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And it's made the future
so much more uncertain for him.
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[newsreader] ...political experience,
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and one who's just caused the biggest
political upset in American history.
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[narrator] Michael is being kept
in solitary confinement
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and gets most of his news from his mum.
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[Lynne] Have you heard about
the election results?
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[Michael] No, not yet.
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[Lynne] You haven't, OK.
Well, Donald Trump did get it in the end.
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-So...
-[Michael] Well, I guess I'm happy for him
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and it's America's choice
so I guess I have to respect that.
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[Lynne] I realize in many ways a bad
situation just got worse for you but...
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[Michael] Yeah, I think it did.
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[Lynne] But you do understand that
what you attempted to do wasn't right,
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-don't you?
-[Michael] Oh, of course, absolutely.
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I'd never choose to do that,
I'd never choose to hurt anyone.
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[Lynne] I know that, Michael.
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[automated voice]
You have one minute remaining.
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[Lynne, to camera] Michael
has now reverted back to being
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the loving son he always has.
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He sent us letters and cards
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and drawings that he's done.
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And every time he says, "I love you,
I love you, I miss you, I need you."
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[man] "Tears are streaming down my face
as I write this.
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I miss you all and I love you all
more than words can explain.
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I'm so alone, cold and scared here.
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I feel awful about the way
I've treated you all.
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Mum, I will be the son that you deserve.
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I'm so scared, I need you all."
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[Paul] When Michael did move out to
America, I redecorated my bedroom.
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Just got me thinking about him a bit more
I guess.
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[narrator] Paul is flying out
to join Lynne in Las Vegas,
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ahead of Michael's sentencing.
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[Paul] It's been ten years
probably since I've been abroad.
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He needs that support,
and with that support he will be alright.
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[narrator] Michael's mental health
has deteriorated
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since Trump was confirmed
as the President-Elect
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and he's been placed on suicide watch.
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[Paul] He's become quite depressed
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and now I think he just wants to get
the sentencing over and done with
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so at least he'll know
what's happening with him.
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We hope it's gonna be OK, we hope
they take in account Michael's conditions
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but we have been told
that it's not something
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the American system
really tends to look into.
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He is flesh and blood.
He is my boy and he's lonely and scared.
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I mean, he's got no family out there.
He's got nobody to see him.
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He's in a prison where there are lifers
who support Trump.
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They've got nothing to lose, really.
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I still lie awake at night a lot of
the time expecting that phone call
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saying there's been an incident,
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something's happened
in the detention center.
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To be honest, I'm really worried somebody
is going to try to kill him. I really am.
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I've started on sleeping pills
and antidepressants
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because there's been a number of nights
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where I haven't slept
for two or three nights in a row. And...
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Obviously then you start
to get really down and tired.
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I've got to do it for Michael. You just
get over it and get it done with.
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I'm trying to get my son home.
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[narrator] With Michael's sentencing
just days away,
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his legal team are putting
the final touches to their case.
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We put together... I asked Lynne
to send me a bunch of pictures,
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so we need to call the court later on
and make sure that we can play these
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while we're arguing for sentencing.
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The other problem is the control we have
over what happens to him
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when he's in prison is fairy minimal,
but the control we do have
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is to limit the amount of time
that he needs to spend there.
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[narrator] Michael's plea bargain
means he's pleaded guilty
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to impeding and disrupting
government business
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and being an illegal alien
in possession of a firearm.
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The reality is that you have
Michael admitting
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that he tried to assassinate
what is now President-Elect Trump.
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[narrator] He could face
up to 20 years in jail,
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unless his defense team
are successful in proving
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he was suffering from a psychotic episode.
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Frankly, I don't think that
that was Michael Sandford.
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That's not the Michael that I've come to
know in the last few months.
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But that's the Michael that the government
is going to be portraying at sentencing,
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I think that Michael has suffered from
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a variety of different
mental health conditions
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and what he said and what he did
was really not him
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but a condition that needs to be treated.
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The arguments are ready,
everything has been filed,
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so I think right now is just really
a matter of just wait and see.
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[narrator] On his arrest, the Secret
Service conducted a thorough investigation
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tracking Michael's movements
leading up to his assassination attempt.
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In the boot of his car,
detectives found the used target
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that led them to a firing range less than
a mile from where the rally took place.
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It's gonna be really loud, that's why
we're gonna wear all your protection.
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[narrator] Michael attended the shooting
range the day before the rally.
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He would later tell detectives
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that he'd considered buying a rifle
to shoot Trump from long distance,
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but claimed he was unable to acquire one.
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[Josh] This is the Glock 17
that Michael shot.
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We're gonna load it into the magazine,
and then we're just gonna...
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slide goes forward, ready to go.
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[narrator] Josh was the range safety
officer that attended to Michael.
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[Josh] Honestly, there was nothing
off of him when he came in.
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He shot 20 rounds.
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He was shy, he was nervous,
just like any other customer.
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But I would have never thought that he was
practicing for an assassination.
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Glock 17s are standard issue for
law enforcement here in this country.
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An experienced shooter,
they don't anticipate the rounds,
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you don't shoot down, you're pretty much
just keeping that gun forward,
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which will look something like this.
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You're forward...
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[gunshot]
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When Michael was shooting,
I'll see if I can get it right...
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I'm gonna miss on purpose.
He was doing this.
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He was shooting the ground.
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He was not a good shot, just like any
other shooter who has never shot
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and has adrenaline kicking in,
is really nervous.
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They usually shoot really low because
you're flinching, you're so nervous.
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He was an ordinary customer.
He seemed like a good kid actually.
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You know, he... Like, he had innocence,
like he couldn't hurt a fly or anything.
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He seemed like a really nice guy,
you know.
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[narrator] After a ten-hour flight,
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Paul has arrived in Las Vegas
for Michael's sentencing.
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He is meeting Lynne and the rest of
Michael's family at the airport.
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Quite nervous about everything now.
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I can feel myself
getting more and more nervous
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and I'm sure Lynne is gonna be the same.
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The nerves will start when she gets in
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and then I think, as the day progresses,
thinking about tomorrow.
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It's gonna be hard for both of us and
I think Lynne is gonna start struggling.
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[man] What's your relationship
like with Lynne?
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[Paul] Lynne and I get along really well.
We always have done.
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Hi, Jessie! Hello!
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Even when we split up,
we got on quite well.
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That's one of the things
with the issues you get with Michael,
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it does bring you together,
you haven't got the choice.
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-Hiya, Paul. Alright?
-Hiya.
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You've got to be there for Michael,
you've got to work together for Michael.
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The car's out this way.
It's Level 1, the car park at the back.
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Right...
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[Lynne]
There we go. One big family, Jessica, eh?
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[Lynne] This is where it all happened,
Treasure Island.
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[Paul] So how've you been then? Alright?
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[Lynne] Yeah, it's been hard, you know.
Really, really tiring and stressful.
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-Are you sleeping any better?
-No. Nor eating better.
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[Paul] At least we'll have
some sort of closure for tomorrow.
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It's been a long time coming, hasn't it?
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I know it's being weighing hard
on Michael.
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Just the waiting and not knowing.
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[Lynne] Jessica, do you remember where
I said that we're gonna go tomorrow?
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Court.
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[Lynne] That's right, yeah. Who's going to
be at the court and why are we there?
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Michael! We have to find out
how long he has to stay there again.
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[Lynne] That's right, yeah.
So there's gonna be a special person.
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-The judge.
-[Lynne] The judge, that's right.
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And he is gonna listen to lots of things
about Michael
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and decide how much longer Michael
has to stay here, isn't he?
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I'm a bit nervous of the judge
because I'm never seen him before.
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[Lynne] No. Do you think you can
be on your best behavior?
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Yes!
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And of course Michael would like to see
how well you can behave as well.
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What would you like to say to Michael
if you get the chance?
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-I love you.
-[Lynne] Aww.
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-You alright?
-[Lynne] Yeah.
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[Lynne, on phone] Hi, son, how are you?
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[Michael] Alright, I just spoke to Brenda.
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[Lynne] OK, did you?
What did she have to say?
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[Michael] Just that I will be allowed
to make a statement in court.
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[Lynne] Yeah, well, at least
you get to have your say, anyway.
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-Are you gonna read it to me?
-[Michael] You want me to read it to you?
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[Lynne] Yes, please.
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[Michael] I would like
to take this opportunity
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to apologize to everyone involved.
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I feel terrible and awful about what I did
and I am extremely ashamed of myself.
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I am not a violent person
and I do not wish to harm or hurt anyone.
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When we get in, it's bed for you, Jessica.
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[Michael] I deserve to be in prison
for the rest of my life.
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However, I would like to ask for mercy
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as my bad mental health was the reason
for me committing this crime.
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I would like to be able to go home,
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so I can be with my family
and get the treatment I need.
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[Lynne] Mm-hmm. I don't think you should
say that you deserve to be in prison
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for the rest of your life.
Because that's not true.
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[Michael] I did try to kill a guy,
though, Mum.
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[Lynne] No, I know but you didn't mean
to and you didn't intend to, did you?
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[Michael] Alright, I'll take it out.
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[Lynne] If the judge is swayed,
which he shouldn't be,
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by the fact that Donald Trump
is now the President-Elect,
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then obviously he can, you know,
give whatever sentence he chooses.
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But I just hope that he will see Michael
for who he is,
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the troubled young man
that just made a massive error,
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and give him the second chance
that he needs and deserves.
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And give him, hopefully,
the lower sentence.
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[man] And do you think that will happen?
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Fifty/fifty.
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[man] Really, those are the chances
you think?
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Yeah, mm-hmm.
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[man] Have you prepared yourself
for the worst?
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Um, I think I have, but...
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you know, just hearing it
is an entirely different ball game.
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You can prepare yourself for these things.
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But until you're actually faced with them,
nobody knows how you're going to react.
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And I've tried to prepare Michael,
but it's the same thing again.
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You know, he's been just finding a way
through to cope with each day
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and that is thinking that the judge
will let him off with time served
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and how he's gonna cope with the
realization perhaps that's not the case
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is just gonna be tremendously difficult.
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[narrator] Just before midnight, nine
hours before the rally was due to start,
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Michael made his way
to the Treasure Island casino
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and took fourth place in the queue.
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Gregg Donavan, a staunch Trump supporter,
was next in line.
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I asked this young man, I said, "Would you
mind holding my space while I go change?"
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He said, "Oh, yeah," and I heard
the British accent, I remember.
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I was in my full red thing
and black top hat
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and when he saw it,
he seemed kind of repulsed.
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I found that odd because I thought
he would like it, you know.
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He just didn't seem like
a regular Trump supporter.
456
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,520
It didn't seem like that,
that was my feeling.
457
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160
[video plays on phone]
458
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,080
I was in fifth row,
I got very close to Mr. Trump,
459
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,240
I'm so close to him, look at that.
460
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,000
There's something about the rallies,
it's just euphoria.
461
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,720
Ladies and gentlemen, the next president
of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
462
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,520
[cheering]
463
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,120
[narrator] As the auditorium
began to fill up,
464
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,120
Cole Bartiromo, another Trump fan,
took his place in the crowd.
465
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,800
[Cole] The crowds are just so high energy,
feeding off his energy.
466
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,280
So passionate, start chanting things
over and over again.
467
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Thank you very much. I love you people.
468
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,880
I love Las Vegas! I love this state!
469
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,040
[narrator] Thirty seconds into Trump's
speech, with all eyes on the stage,
470
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,200
Michael approached
a metropolitan patrol officer.
471
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,160
[Trump] ...borders generally
that are strong and powerful.
472
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,480
We're gonna get rid of Common Core
and we're gonna bring our education local.
473
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,960
[cheering]
474
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,160
When we get 37 states...
475
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,480
Oh, we love our police.
476
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Thank you. Thank you, officers.
477
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520
[officer] Are you serious, man,
what are you thinking?
478
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,640
I started filming when I saw guards
tackling somebody.
479
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,480
[booing]
480
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,720
[Cole] They were just dragging him
out of there like he's a rag doll.
481
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,240
[Trump] Thank you. Thank you, officers.
482
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,480
I was like whoa, what did he do?
483
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,760
[Cole] There is this anger...
484
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,440
-[booing]
-[Cole] Boo! Protestors, boo!
485
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,040
[Cole] ...because Michael Sandford
486
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,880
could have altered
the course of American history.
487
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,920
Thank you.
488
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,679
[Gregg] He didn't look like a murderer.
489
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,840
He was a wolf in sheep's clothing.
490
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,400
Maybe he got radicalized.
491
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,920
[Gregg] Somebody can come in here
492
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,880
and they have the opportunity to kill
our future president of the United States.
493
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000
[Trump] That's very nice, thank you.
494
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,880
I think you have to send a strong message,
Donald Trump style.
495
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,800
[Cole] The judge has to give him
the maximum.
496
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,760
[narrator] On his arrest,
Michael told detectives
497
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,440
that the greater good
would be to lose his own life
498
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,760
rather than have Trump as President.
499
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,360
[officer] What makes you special?
500
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,720
[narrator] He stated that it wasn't a cry
for help, only the right thing to do.
501
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,960
-[officer] You know what you did, right?
-[Michael] Well, yeah.
502
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,560
[officer] Wanna make sure. You do, right?
503
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Yeah.
504
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,120
[narrator] It's the morning
of Michael's sentencing.
505
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,640
The family are on their way to meet
the legal team for a final briefing.
506
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,560
[Brenda] Good morning! How are you?
Good to see you!
507
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
-Remind me of the name again?
-Timmy.
508
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,920
-Timmy! And the other one is?
-Tickles.
509
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Tickles, yes!
510
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,600
-How are you, Brenda?
-I'm good. Hi, Lynne, good to see you.
511
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,040
-Hi.
-It's good to see you.
512
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,720
[Brenda] When you see Michael
coming into the courtroom,
513
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,000
I don't want you to be surprised,
he's going to be shackled, right.
514
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,640
So he's going to have handcuffs
and some leg cuffs as well.
515
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,880
The leg cuffs are going to remain on him.
516
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,920
He'll be wearing a detainee garb,
a jumpsuit of sorts,
517
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160
So I just don't want you
to be shocked by that.
518
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,040
So that's how you're going to see Michael.
519
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,760
[Ryan] Judges do this differently
but they'll often hear from both sides.
520
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,280
Sometimes they'll ask questions.
521
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,320
So the judge will often ask
the defendant to speak, Michael.
522
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,280
So we would plan on having him
talk to the judge.
523
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840
At the conclusion of this hearing
we will know,
524
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,840
the judge will actually announce
what Michael's sentence is
525
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,160
and he'll give the reasoning as to why he
decided to impose a particular sentencing.
526
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,400
So we're hoping for the best,
527
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,000
but of course we don't know
what's going to happen.
528
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,880
He can ultimately impose the sentence
that he believes is fair and just.
529
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,920
[narrator] Unless the Republican judge
is sympathetic
530
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,880
to Michael's mental health disorders,
he faces a lengthy jail term.
531
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,520
Michael Sandford is in there now,
dressed in an orange jumpsuit.
532
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,960
He is tethered at the ankles.
533
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,920
[journalist] His family say that
he is someone who's had
534
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,800
a lifetime of mental health issues
535
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,160
and therefore they're asking the court
to show some leniency.
536
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,080
That is now in the hands of the judge
and we're expecting that verdict
537
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,400
sometime in the next hour.
538
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,280
[Lynne] What's done is done.
We can't change what happened.
539
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,520
But my worries are that
we won't get him back.
540
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,200
[Paul] Which way are we going?
541
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640
[Lynne] I think it's just around here,
Jessica.
542
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,760
Have you been able to talk with him?
543
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,080
[Lynne] He needs to get psychiatric care.
544
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,280
He needs to be back in the UK.
545
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,520
I don't for one minute think Michael
would be in the position he's in now
546
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,280
if he had got the intervention
he needed soon enough.
547
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,960
[officer] Where's all the hate come from?
548
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,000
[Lynne] I asked for help so many times,
but I didn't get it.
549
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,080
[Michael] It's not just an opinion,
he is racist.
550
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200
[officer] I understand that.
You think what you're doing is right?
551
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200
-[Michael] It's justified.
-[officer] It's not.
552
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,320
If you want to kill somebody,
it makes you wrong.
553
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,680
[Michael] I don't want to hurt
any innocent people...
554
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,640
-[continues indistinctly]
-[officer] That makes you wrong.
555
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,280
This is America, land of the free, right?
556
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,360
Everybody should be entitled
to what they want to say and do, right?
557
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,600
-Well, I mean--
-No, everyone is entitled.
558
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,840
This is America. That's the rule.
559
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,800
Everyone's entitled to say
what they want to say. Freedom of speech.
560
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,720
-That doesn't mean it's right--
-You know what
561
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,280
they need to change the constitution.
562
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,800
How would you... [indistinct]
563
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,800
I'm not here to debate.
I'm telling you that violence is wrong.
564
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,160
I disagree with that.
565
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,880
[Lynne] There is life for him the other
side of this, whenever that may be
566
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,520
I know that although he attempted to do
a bad thing, he's not a bad person.
567
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080
And I know we have to get him back.
568
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,200
[chatter]
569
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,960
[man] Can I ask you one thing?
570
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,360
Tell us about the sentencing.
571
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,360
[Ryan] The judge recognized
that the unique circumstances
572
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,920
justified a sentence
below the usual sentencing guidelines.
573
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,240
The important thing is
he wants to go home.
574
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,240
He wants to go home as soon as he can.
575
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,480
The light is at the end of the tunnel
here, so he's happy about that.
576
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,400
[narrator] The prosecution argued
that Michael, by his own admission,
577
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160
had planned to carry out the attack
for over a year.
578
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,560
But the judge was sympathetic
to his mental health
579
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,520
and handed down a shorter than expected
sentence of 12 months and a day.
580
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,360
[Lynne] Was it good to see Michael?
581
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,520
He was so frightened in court, you know.
582
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,400
He was shaking really badly, um,
he was choked when he spoke to the judge,
583
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,480
he was breaking down.
584
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,560
And I just feel like a weight
has been lifted off my shoulders,
585
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,720
all the uncertainty and worry
of the last few months,
586
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,680
and now to know that it's such
a relatively short time still to go
587
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,600
before we get him back is just...
I'm just bubbling with joy inside.
588
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120
[Paul] I'm quite glad to see you smile.
589
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,760
I haven't had a lot to smile about
for quite a long time.
590
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,440
[Paul] He apologized to the judge
for what he had done
591
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,800
and for wasting people's time.
592
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,000
The judge turned around and said
you've got nothing to be sorry for.
593
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,720
I'm sorry.
594
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Um...
595
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,560
He said you've got a condition.
596
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,960
If it had been a heart condition,
he would take medication for it
597
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160
and nobody would think anything about it.
598
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,200
[Lynne] Wave!
599
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,320
He said it's nothing to be ashamed of.
600
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,560
[Lynne] The judge realized what
everybody else has always said about him.
601
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,920
[Michael] I'm just so ashamed
at what I did
602
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,000
and I just feel awful about it,
I really do.
603
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920
It could have been far worse,
604
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,480
so I guess I just have to be grateful
that it is how it is and no one got hurt.
605
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,640
I just hope to be able to get treatment
for the mental health issues I have
606
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,040
and just continue
with regular, normal life.
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