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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,362 MAN: They had a perfect moment in time. 2 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,767 That's as much as that cliff was going to give them. 3 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,763 I'm glad that she got in her car and drove off. 4 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,770 Because if she would have hung out any longer, 5 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,451 it was like the entire mountain was going to fall on top of her. 6 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,961 That cliff had it out for them or something. 7 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,806 I don't know what it was but it just didn't end well for the Boenishes. 8 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,571 Nothing happens by chance. 9 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,763 Every single thing that ever happens, happens for a reason. 10 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,685 Happens due to the law of the universe. 11 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,729 And it's just incumbent upon me 12 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,811 to figure out enough what those laws are and obey those laws. 13 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,888 I feel that when I jump off a cliff, 14 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,164 I'm obeying those laws of the universe, including gravity. 15 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,881 - Ready? - WOMAN: I'm ready. 16 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,889 OK. Four, three, two, one, go. 17 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,651 We've moved over to the mid-point of our newsroom 18 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,888 to get away from the mainstream news of the day 19 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,401 and look at some more unusual things going on. 20 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,965 Of course, I have been the one 21 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,401 with the more unusual things going on for most of the day. 22 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,330 One of them is the growing fad of parachuting from skyscrapers. 23 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,922 Especially here in Los Angeles. And you pursued that yesterday afternoon. 24 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,691 MAN: Downtown Los Angeles is a natural for this sort of thing. 25 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,690 In particular, the high-rise construction boom is a big attraction. 26 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,724 Because the unfinished buildings usually have little security, 27 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:54,491 jumpers can make it secretly to the top and make theirjumps. 28 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,042 Not too many years ago, this sport wouldn't have worked in Los Angeles 29 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,401 because there were no true high-rise buildings. 30 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,683 But now several buildings are above 50 stories tall 31 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,488 and skyscraper skydiving is a big sport. It is also illegal. 32 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,485 MAN: We almost feel like we're astronauts walking on the moon. 33 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,491 It just gives us a feeling of power and of joy. 34 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,649 We want to share it with the world but every time we try to, 35 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,242 people can't relate because, in a sense, it's out of their realm. 36 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,483 When I first started this story, I thought that's a crazy thing. 37 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,840 Why would anyone want to do that? 38 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,883 But after talking for a while with those people 39 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,729 and hearing the thrill they get from it, 40 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,366 I have to admit it's a little tempting. 41 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,131 - No! - Only a little, but it is. 42 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,805 - Doofus! - (LAUGHS) 43 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,129 My guest's name rhymes with Danish. His name is Carl Boenish. 44 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,290 You are a cinematographer, A, but you are, B, a cliff jumper. 45 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,727 I want to say that again so people know I meant to say it. 46 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,241 Cliff jumper. You jump off cliffs, Carl. You do do that? 47 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Yes, I do, Pat. 48 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,444 CARL: One of my mottos is there's no future in growing up. 49 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,608 I just never want to grow up. 50 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,167 Most people, I guess they grow old. I don't want to grow old or grow up. 51 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,361 (WOMAN LAUGHS) 52 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,483 I don't want to be childish. 53 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,008 But I think there are a lot of virtues in being childlike. 54 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,284 Because if you study a child, he hasn't been taught what he can't do. 55 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,725 - WOMAN: We all do a lot of praying. - MAN: You do pray? 56 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,003 CARL: I think a lot of this comes from a metaphysical basis, even. 57 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,565 A spiritual basis. 58 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,844 I think that the biggest aspect to why I do this is for rejuvenation. 59 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,682 Because if I can master these goals, it improves every other department in life. 60 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,640 I think that if a group of people can watch me jump off a building 61 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,843 and be successful, they can say, "Well, I probably don't want to do that 62 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,089 but maybe I could bowl that perfect 300 game." 63 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,040 LONG: He was a guy that was everything and everywhere all at once. 64 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,801 And he had this crazy infectious enthusiasm. And he would laugh. 65 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,691 And he would fly over to the piano and play some classical riffs 66 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,161 and then he would talk about quantum mechanics. 67 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,408 And then he would get a little weepy 68 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,929 and then he'd wax nostalgic about some job that he had. 69 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,771 Then we'd go out and jump on the trampoline. 70 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,446 It was like a stream of consciousness. 71 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,650 Half from hell and half from, you know, some better world somewhere. 72 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,924 I mean, it was really an interesting kind of thing being around this guy. 73 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,168 WOMAN: Our father's name was Carl. 74 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,171 And Ronnie was Carl, so at home, we always called him Ronnie. 75 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,400 My brother got polio from a polio vaccine. 76 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,801 They weren't sure he was going to live. 77 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,889 MAN: But he survived it. 78 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,163 And for his recovery he was in a wheelchair and couldn't walk. 79 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,884 His legs were really weak. 80 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,083 So he spent his time playing the piano. 81 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,684 PRICE: When he had polio, he missed a whole year of elementary school. 82 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,725 But once he finally got cleared and could go back to school, 83 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,003 he challenged every boy in his class one at a time 84 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,849 until he could beat them in a foot race. 85 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,726 And he beat every one of them. 86 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,402 He talked to me a lot about his birth mother leaving. 87 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,086 And I think that touched him deeply. 88 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,844 Then he was in high school and he was, you know, 89 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,362 very intellectual and always doing his calculus. 90 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,280 BOB: So he had just finished college when I was born 91 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,126 and started working for Hughes Aircraft as an electrical engineer. 92 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,647 WENTZEL: Once he got into skydiving he just changed. 93 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,326 They're always pulling you in. You're part of a group. 94 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,046 You have to fly together. So he changed completely. 95 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,683 WOMAN: You used to be an engineer. Pretty safe, secure type job. 96 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,371 When and how did you make the decision to give that all up 97 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,683 and go into doing this, what you like to do, full time? 98 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,247 It's funny. My boss at Hughes Aircraft told me, 99 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,364 "Carl, the man who knows how will always have a job." 100 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,290 "The man who knows why will be his boss." 101 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,847 And at that time I knew how to design electrical circuits. 102 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,126 I knew how to skydive. 103 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,210 But I knew why to skydive 104 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,045 much better than I knew why the electronic circuits worked. 105 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:05,284 OK, new sheet of paper. New heading entitled The Gypsy Moths. 106 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,210 PRICE: He was working at Hughes Aircraft. 107 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,211 And he got the opportunity to do Gypsy Moths. 108 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,721 And that was a big MGM production. 109 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,888 CARL: I was asked by MGM 110 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,608 to be in charge of the aerial free-fall filming sequences. 111 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:23,846 MAN: John Frankenheimer, 112 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,601 the director who created the excitement of Grand Prix, 113 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,007 now captures the drama and spectacle 114 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:36,844 of the death-defying game called skydiving in The Gypsy Moths. 115 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,770 So he went and took the Gypsy Moths job 116 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,690 and that was the end of his electrical engineering career. 117 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,451 CARL: I didn't know how I wanted to film the aerial sequences. 118 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:48,404 I had to experiment and try all kinds of things. 119 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,331 And I had to find really young guys who were willing to do that. 120 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,010 Pull it! Pull it! 121 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,288 Carl was an innovator. He was probably the only one in Hollywood, 122 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,643 or the area, that was known for free-fall photography. 123 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,247 MAN: Background of Carl Boenish and his films. 124 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,364 Carl Boenish's early start. 125 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,850 He has been able to put off going back to work two months at a time 126 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:26,245 such that for over the last ten years, he's never had to go back to work, 127 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,569 and is accustomed to making film payments instead of car payments. 128 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:31,682 As it's worked out in the past, 129 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,850 Carl Boenish usually spends about two years 130 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,930 to make one 15-minute film. 131 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,645 If you were jumping with Boenish, it was expected 132 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,764 that you'd wear a helmet-mounted camera or possibly two. 133 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,561 Carl's main focus was to share the wealth. Share that feeling. 134 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,445 To share the feeling with people that didn't understand it, 135 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:55,450 that thought we were absolutely crazy to do something like this. 136 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:58,325 But once you see it and see the beauty of it, 137 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,006 I think people tend to understand the motive. 138 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,369 CARL: I've been skydiving for 18 years now 139 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,131 and I've been filmmaking forjust as long. 140 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,167 Primarily, I consider myself a filmmaker first and a skydiver second. 141 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,363 So whatever he did, he wanted to capture on film the best way he could. 142 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:06,968 I think he wanted to show the humanity, the freedom, that is felt 143 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:13,645 when you are pushing the envelope of what the human spirit can accomplish. 144 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,286 MAN: Yosemite is beautiful. It's breathtaking. 145 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,563 Many people cry when they first see it. 146 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,808 It's beyond their expectation, beyond their experience. 147 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,051 I was the chief ranger in Yosemite National Park. 148 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,243 And my job was protection. 149 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,400 So protecting the park from the people and the people from the park 150 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,000 and the people from the people. 151 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,282 Where did you get the inclination to jump off a cliff? 152 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,008 Well, this comes from making 1500 parachute jumps over 15 years 153 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,283 and becoming so proficient at it that you wonder, 154 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,050 well, what else is out there? 155 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,689 MAN: El Capitan. 3,600 feet of polished granite 156 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,201 rising from California's Yosemite Valley. 157 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,442 For climbers, its vertical ascent 158 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,643 is one of the great challenges of North America. 159 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,842 A group of professional parachuters 160 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,402 traveled to this unique spot to experience flight. 161 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,443 When I organized the first load to go to El Capitan, 162 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,689 we spent nearly all summer there, four or five trips, 163 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:46,045 scouting of the geography, finding, hopefully, places suitable to jump. 164 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,243 Then we stumbled upon this really idyllic place 165 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,729 that's about 3,000 feet tall 166 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,083 with an overhang of a couple hundred feet. 167 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,680 And as soon as I saw it I yelled, "Eureka!" 168 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,768 MAN: The pioneers of this remarkable attempt 169 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,123 are skydivers Kent Lane and Tom Stark. 170 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,244 Along with Kenny Gosselin, Mike Sherrin and helper Sally Wenlzel. 171 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,642 Expedition leader Carl Boenish with Dave Blattell. 172 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,402 Carl, on his own, was doing a lot of research on El Cap. 173 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,091 He then asked me to help him with the filming of it. 174 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,886 I wanted to figure out a way, if possible, 175 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,845 to film a person running off a cliff. 176 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,244 But from a vantage point looking back toward the cliff. 177 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,370 The first jumps were going to be made off El Cap 178 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,201 and Carl wanted to get motion-picture footage 179 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:48,168 of the first jumpers running towards him jumping off the cliff 180 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,888 and then that way he could then follow them down as they were in free fall. 181 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,568 CARL: Actually, I made a homemade ladder 182 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,808 that's about 20 feet long out of aluminum. 183 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,045 I perched on the end of this ladder so I could film toward the cliff. 184 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,970 BLATELL: It was a long pole. 185 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:14,248 And it had some crosspieces on it 186 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:16,840 to kind of make it like a little bit of a ladder. 187 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:28,203 When it was set up by the rock climbers on El Cap, 188 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,369 it was just this rod sticking out from the mountain 189 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,562 with a little bicycle seat. 190 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,051 And if you were going to sit on that bicycle seat, 191 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,807 there's nothing between you and 3,000 feet below you. 192 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,082 I mean, it was just nothing. 193 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,764 He would go out there... 194 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,963 and then he'd have to get up the nerve 195 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:05,284 and swing 180 so that he could sit on that seat. 196 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,002 He was nuts. 197 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,008 He was absolutely nuts. Then you would hear his laugh 198 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,884 and you were guaranteed that he was nuts. 199 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 And he talked us into jumping off this thing. 200 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,170 So we're all nuts. 201 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,687 We were all young and not knowing any better. We're ready to go. 202 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,561 BLATELL: Kent Lane, first jumper off of the first trip. 203 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,490 Two and a half years' jumping, 600 jumps. 204 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,327 My name is Kent Lane. The first time I heard about it, 205 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,444 it sounded like really a neat thing to do. 206 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,648 I was scared to death. 207 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:57,330 When I was out on this ladder, I'd make sure everyone was ready. 208 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,124 And I would start the countdown. 209 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:04,008 Five, four, three, two, one, go! 210 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:38,130 I saw a wall, a huge granite wall, accelerating right next to me. 211 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,207 When you exit off of a cliff, there's no wind to work with. 212 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,765 And so how you go off 213 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,851 is how you're going to stay for the next four or five seconds. 214 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,008 Can't wait to do it again. 215 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,402 And so once we got down on the ground 216 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,727 we had ground crew that took our gear 217 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,289 and they placed them under rocks or under logs. It is all mapped out. 218 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,291 We were all dressed up as hikers. All we did was we'd land and stood 219 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,609 and ground crew changed us from skydiver to hiker. 220 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,768 And then we just, you know, dispersed. 221 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,609 We were entirely successful in all our cliff jumps 222 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,601 because I feel that we were constantly led by the idea 223 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:35,330 that we were glorifying mankind's beautiful spirit of seeking adventure 224 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,729 and that we were within our rights of freedom and dominium over all the Earth. 225 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,130 There are many man-made laws that aren't laws at all that need to be broken. 226 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,648 One is a belief that it's impossible to jump off a cliff. 227 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:56,886 I felt the activity I thought was exciting. 228 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,887 And to do it off of El Cap just trigged my imagination. 229 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,809 I thought that was wonderful. 230 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,446 I didn't feel adversarial, 231 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,848 but it didn't keep me from doing my job at times. 232 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,804 It didn't seem like it was going to stop. 233 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,207 How do you herd a bunch of cats? 234 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,883 We had word that there were going to be cliff jumpers 235 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,327 coming into the top of El Cap. 236 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,444 And it was against the law. 237 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,325 This is a cat-and-mouse part of it. 238 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,848 LANE: A couple weeks later when Carl and I went back 239 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,088 and we jumped off, I got caught by the ranger. 240 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,366 I was the first person ever caught for BASE jumping in Yosemite. 241 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,962 MAN: Tom Stark, Dave Blattell and Jill Morgan got citations. 242 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,969 I was an attorney for the Federal Government. 243 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,485 So I couldn't represent them. 244 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,921 But I did a lot of pro bono work for them 245 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,368 and we were trying to challenge their park's regulation. 246 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,249 Speaking of El Capitan, there have been some controversies around that. 247 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,882 Apparently the park did not want people jumping off their cliffs. 248 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,766 Yeah. That's true. And we can certainly see their point of view. 249 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,803 But they just didn't understand. 250 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,322 In fact, they couldn't even believe that we just jumped off. 251 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,723 Basically, we will just jump off and fall for ten seconds 252 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,251 and fall over a thousand feet. 253 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,882 I found most of the jumpers very agreeable. 254 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,530 Carl was special. You kind of have an instinct about the ringleaders. 255 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,362 He was easy to remember. He had this aura of life. 256 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,008 You don't have to dislike someone to take away their freedom. 257 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:47,841 My name is Carl Boenish. I'm expedition of this leader. 258 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,930 (LAUGHTER) 259 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,041 Cut. 260 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,164 MAN: The park ranger at the time that issued these citations 261 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,851 was aware that Carl was involved in it. 262 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,844 MAN: What did you say with respect to the filming? 263 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,681 CARL: OK, they asked me, you know, whose equipment it was 264 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,087 and first of all they said, "Where is Carl?" 265 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,447 You know, I mean, where is Carl Boenish? 266 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,888 - Really? - Yeah. They're out for blood. 267 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,851 WENTZEL: Somehow we got involved with rangers. 268 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,367 The film was confiscated. 269 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,609 Carl was very concerned about his film. 270 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,442 MAN: One of those what was there was the park ranger 271 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,881 that sort of had this vendetta against Carl 272 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,244 and they continued to press the litigation aspect. 273 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,165 We don't want to be limited by anything except nature. 274 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,090 We always have to listen to nature's laws. 275 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,726 But not necessarily man's laws. 276 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,450 The US Magistrate, Don Pitts, 277 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,771 he was kind of tired of seeing this parade of cliff jumpers coming in. 278 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,531 So he was throwing the book at him. 279 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,044 MAN: I know that the park ranger was really trying to focus on Carl. 280 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,567 CARL: I don't mind being called paranoid, 281 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,843 if that's what you want to call it or me. 282 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,965 I do admit to being extreme and radical. 283 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,371 And I feel that I'm justified in being extremely radical 284 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,887 if it's based on truth and principle. 285 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,321 I believe that truth is radical. 286 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,688 WENTZEL: My time with Carl ended at the beginning of '79. 287 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,250 You were either all in or, you know, there were challenges. 288 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,286 At some level he was really trying to kind of close that gap 289 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:54,282 of getting that unconditional, forever love by his side. 290 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,802 The fact that Carl was around 40 years old and not married 291 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,605 told me that he either wasn't interested in women 292 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,006 or not interested in marriage. 293 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,329 He was a geek, a nerd, everything you can imagine in that scope. 294 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,524 I wouldn't say he was popular with the ladies. 295 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:20,005 I know that when it came to Jeanie, something really captured him about her. 296 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,569 His whole life just changed and the focus of his life was Jeanie. 297 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,807 Those of us who met Carl, anybody, would go away 298 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,924 with part of his goodness, it becomes a part of you. 299 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,327 And whenever anybody expresses goodness, 300 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,046 it travels away with that person. 301 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,928 Carl and I first met in April of 1979. 302 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,850 I was a sophomore at Pomona College. 303 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,851 Carl was showing his most recent film, which was Skydive. 304 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,162 (APPLAUSE) 305 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,451 Afterwards, he had us get in a circle. 306 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,645 He said, "Everybody stand up. Get in a circle and hold hands." 307 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,651 So the group of us stood up and held hands the way he had requested. 308 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,287 We're thinking, "This is a bit odd. Where is he going with this?" 309 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,968 And, of course, he just wanted us to experience the position 310 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,404 that skydivers would be in when they came into a star formation. 311 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,449 His purity was a very attractive quality. 312 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,046 And everybody recognized that. 313 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,206 When we were all departing, 314 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,450 I saw another girl was talking to him and giving him her phone number. 315 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,323 And I thought, well, she's very interested. So I just let it be. 316 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,124 It had been fun to see Carl's movie. 317 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,569 It was nice to meet and talk with a parachutist. 318 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,965 I wanted to pursue this somehow. 319 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,289 And I thought to myself, "I know Carl." 320 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,200 I believe that I wrote him a letter, actually. 321 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,365 He ended up calling me and telling me, 322 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,690 "I'll come out and get you. It's right on the way to drop zone." 323 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,208 And this ended up being our first date. 324 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,370 Carl and I talked a lot going out to the drop zone. 325 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,086 It was a long drive. 326 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,091 We talked about things that we believed in. 327 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,726 Principles that we held to. 328 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,886 While we were at the drop zone Carl said, "Let's have a foot race." 329 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,526 And I thought, "OK." 330 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,688 I think we were running next to the airplane 331 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,320 as the airplane was starting to take off. 332 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,411 It was just something that came to him to do. 333 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,161 I guess maybe in a sense, it was just a gauge. 334 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,005 A gauge of possibilities. 335 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,722 It had gotten late in the day after our day at the drop zone 336 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,968 and it was a long drive back. 337 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,401 Carl had told me that his sister had her house 338 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,560 right there at Lake Elsinore and that she wasn't home. 339 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,525 He said it will be fine if we just spent the night there. 340 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,366 So he said, "Well, you can sleep here on the couch 341 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,927 and I'll go sleep in the bedroom where I usually do." 342 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,762 After a couple of hours he came in and said, 343 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,202 "Can I lie down here beside you on the floor?" 344 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:27,082 Then I said, "Well, that's OK." 345 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,480 "That's OK." 346 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,410 Then he said, "Can I hold your hand?" 347 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,888 And so I said, "Yeah." 348 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,846 And so he was lying there parallel to me 349 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,210 and we're holding hands and that's the way we spent the night. 350 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,804 In a matter of just a few weeks, 351 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:14,802 we covered all the ground that each of us felt was necessary 352 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,046 to figure out if we were sufficiently compatible to start a life together. 353 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,205 It wasn't start a relationship, live together, any of that. 354 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,051 It was start a life together, get married. 355 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,162 You're about to get married in a week. 356 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,169 Yes. I'm very excited about that. 357 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,170 Does your fiancée jump off cliffs? 358 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,605 Well, not yet. She would like to. Since we met, she's made eight skydives 359 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,530 and she has a natural affinity for the air. 360 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,927 I think she's going to be a very fine skydiver. 361 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,011 She didn't seem like the skydiver type to me. 362 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:08,362 I remember she wore this red and yellow and blue bright clothes. 363 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,962 And she kind of looked like she worked at the little hot-dog stand 364 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,048 where they dip the hot dogs. 365 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,528 This girl just does not look like a skydiver. 366 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,682 JEAN: More than once, people at the drop zone pegged me as a librarian 367 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,006 and some as a nun. 368 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,522 They were trying to figure out where I was coming from. 369 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,683 There's this psychologist named Jung. 370 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,930 And he always talked about the marriage of opposites, right? 371 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,249 And if you wanted the diametric opposite of Carl Boenish 372 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,521 that would be Jean Boenish. 373 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:59,729 JEAN: I had that thoughtful demeanor, and Carl did too. 374 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,370 We were both very analytical, very detail oriented, 375 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,520 and interested in an intelligent approach to everything. 376 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:17,086 We were two people who were a very good coupling. A unique coupling. 377 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,809 We were very well fit for each other and we loved each other very much. 378 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,367 And now, ladies and gentlemen, here we are. 379 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,403 I am interviewing you live 380 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,651 from the church of the marriage of Jean and Carl Boenish. 381 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,282 Jean, would you like to come here and say a word? Quick. Hurry, hurry. 382 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,643 We ran out of tape. And this is... 383 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,529 Alright, one word. I don't know what I've gotten myself into. 384 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,770 - One word is, "I do!" - Those are two words. 385 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,764 JEAN: When I was considering BASE jumping, 386 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,247 when it was presented to me by Carl, 387 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:02,083 it was something that struck me as pleasant as camping. 388 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,526 MAN: One of the most interesting and incomprehensible love stories ever. 389 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,404 But they got along great. 390 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,330 She was sort of the brains of the operation. 391 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,771 JEAN: So I was marrying into his established business 392 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,807 and joining him in partnership as the team. 393 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,046 Fifteen seconds! 394 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,371 Camera goes on at five. Here you go. 395 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,407 Five, four, three, two, one, go! 396 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,488 There she goes! 397 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,042 (WHOOPS) Alright! 398 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,208 JEAN: It was a wonderful thing for both of us 399 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,167 to begin our life working together on a daily basis. 400 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,681 Beautiful. Perfect form. Oh, man. 401 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,965 Hey, Carl. it went really well. Let me tell you something, though. 402 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,369 It takes more than four seconds to open. 403 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,608 Well, at least the count of four when you're scared. 404 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,611 Roger. I copy. Yeah, I'll tell you... 405 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,484 You had such flawless form. 406 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,807 You were rock steady. Everything went mint. 407 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,322 You make a hard act to follow, Jeanie. That was flawless stability. 408 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,284 I'm going to try to do the same thing. Even I bend the knee. 409 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,370 It's pretty easy, though. Have a good one. 410 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,720 Okay duke. 411 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,731 It's a rush, you know? I'm using the word scared because it's not... 412 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,081 When you're counting the seconds, it's not that. 413 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,965 It's just that you seem to count extra fast. 414 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,691 It's what skydivers call a rush. 415 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,002 You jump off and there's absolutely nothing 416 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,724 because you can't work with anything. 417 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,401 You're at the mercy of nothing. You're falling. 418 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,363 Jean Boenish, if I saw her in the street, 419 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,204 the last thing in the world I would think 420 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,846 is that she would put a parachute on and jump off a rock. 421 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,928 But she believed and loved him so much, 422 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,927 and if Carl said that you could jump off a cliff, do this, she did it. 423 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,811 And she did it better than most of the men at the time. 424 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,490 CARL: Well, we're kind of used to people calling us crazy. 425 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,410 But at least in our opinion, we're not crazy. 426 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,844 We're basically fun-loving adventurers and we really have fun skydiving. 427 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,931 It's almost become a way of life for us, we take it so seriously. 428 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,647 Interestingly enough, if it weren't for the camera, 429 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,247 I, personally, probably wouldn't be that interested in skydiving. 430 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,206 Because the camera captures something not only for ourselves 431 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,166 but for everybody, over a vast amount of time. 432 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,411 And it's really a sense of creativity that we do a lot of things in skydiving 433 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,284 just for the sake of the camera, 434 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,721 and hence for millions of people, to see what we do. 435 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,085 BOB: Pretty much all the BASE jumping was called into the Manor Drive house. 436 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:50,050 "We're going to go jump El Capitan at six o'clock tomorrow morning." 437 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,247 "Want to come and film?" 438 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,284 Carl and Jean, this is Mary Todd. Well, I'm over here. 439 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,849 We did El Cap yesterday and it just went so fantastic. 440 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,042 Piece of cake. Everything. 441 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:09,609 As you can tell, nothing happened. No rangers. 442 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,281 BOB: Soto say he was a ringleader, yes, he didn't tell people to go jump 443 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,727 but he knew about it. 444 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,164 Even though we had had problems with the National Park Service 445 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,406 as far as arrests or people wanting to fine or prohibit, 446 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,765 BASE jumping was not an illegal activity. 447 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,123 And in the park service specifically, 448 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,806 it should easily have been a permitted activity. 449 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,010 Currently it's pretty illegal to jump off of the top of most of those cliffs. 450 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,964 And I know that you've been instrumental in fighting that. 451 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,320 What's going on with that now? 452 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,681 Is that going to be legalized in your opinion? 453 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,406 Well, we hope that in time, just like mountain climbing, 454 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,528 that it will be unregulated. 455 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,531 Right now, we want to work hand in hand with the park service. 456 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,728 WENDT: We both wanted the same thing. To legalize it. 457 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,368 To reduce the danger of jumping illegally. 458 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,451 Because they're doing it at night. Trying to evade us. 459 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,086 MAN: Bill Wendt is the National Park Service director for Yosemite. 460 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,080 El Capitan happens to be inside of Yosemite National Park. 461 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,607 And it's one of the few cliffs in the world 462 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,842 where they can safely jump from the top of a cliff 463 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,645 and parachute down to a suitable landing site. 464 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,128 We have finally, after a year of negotiating back and forth, 465 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,483 you might say, convinced the park service that it can be done safely. 466 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,490 The park service is issuing permits. 467 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,688 WENDT: It worked, and it worked for a while, 468 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,804 but it really started to be untenable. 469 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,685 There were just too many free spirits. 470 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,202 And we had to shut them down. The ninth of September. 471 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,364 CARL: Jumping off El Capitan was first unregulated 472 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,687 because it was unthought of. 473 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,521 And then it was regulated because it was feared. 474 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,246 And then it was banned because it was abused. 475 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,206 WENDT: We got it started because I recommended it. 476 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,091 And it was stopped because I recommended it. 477 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,925 So I'm responsible. 478 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,966 And maybe I was too impatient and didn't... 479 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,563 That... that I will admit. 480 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,968 It really has no connection with what we consider 481 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,646 to be an International Aviation sport. 482 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,560 It's more closely related to circus acrobats and circus tricks. 483 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,847 MAN: OK, the Granite Circus was one of Carl's dreams. 484 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,451 The last day of jumping, he wanted to make it spectacular. 485 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,121 So he arranged for one person to be on stilts, that was me. 486 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,050 Mayfield was going to walk on his hands, doing a handstand. 487 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,650 Carl was on a pogo stick 488 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,888 and one other guy was going to be on a skateboard. 489 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,283 I got up on the stilts, made about two or three steps and I was gone. 490 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,922 It was so cool 491 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,971 that that kind of set my heels in. I was into BASE jumping. 492 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,209 Even though it wasn't called BASE jumping at the time. 493 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,482 That was the program for me. 494 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,164 After the permitted season of jumping from El Capitan, 495 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:26,049 the number of jumpers interested doing this activity was growing. 496 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,803 And Carl in his foresight knew that we needed to be able 497 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,641 to call it something other than fixed object skydiving 498 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,367 or skydiving from fixed objects or cliff-jumping. 499 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,121 There were boundaries beyond just cliffs. 500 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:47,962 I found some other objects around that I thought might be interesting to jump. 501 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,004 MAN: Phil Smith, Smitty, came up with a couple ideas. 502 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,566 One of them was jumping off TV towers. 503 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:57,691 He had a TV tower in Houston that was over a thousand feet high. 504 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,325 He also mentioned that there was a building going up at a construction 505 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,929 that was ultimately going to be about 900 feet high, a little bit more. 506 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,485 One thing led to another. 507 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,649 Carl and Jean decided to come out in January of 1981. 508 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,922 The four of us would go down and jump the TV tower. 509 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,121 That was the prime focus. 510 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,481 The building had been mentioned almost in passing. 511 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,080 It seemed like not having done either one 512 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:26,289 that a TV tower jump would be a lot more feasible than a building 513 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,131 just because of the logistics of getting onto a building. 514 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,002 Smitty did all the homework and lined it up for us. 515 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,646 And by that I mean figured out when we need to be there 516 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,571 and how to get onto the tower because we'd have to climb a fence. 517 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:40,929 How to get away and how many sets of cables there were on the tower 518 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,204 so we could avoid hitting those. Bottom line is we jumped that. 519 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,650 JEAN: Carl and I had traveled out to Phil Mayfield's house 520 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,122 and we met Phil Smith there as well. 521 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:21,245 MAYFIELD: And we started talking about Carl's latest ideas. His grand idea. 522 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,124 His big picture of fixed object jumping. 523 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,090 SMITH: That evening we were up in Phil's house in Arlington. 524 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,362 And we were planning our next day's jump. 525 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,371 And Carl had been daydreaming all week and brainstorming this thing. 526 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,847 He came up with the idea of making an organization 527 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,485 where to be a member, 528 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,371 you had to have jumped these four different kinds of objects. 529 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,249 MAYFIELD: So we started brainstorming different acronyms, different names 530 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,364 so that we could come up with something that was kind of catchy. 531 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,804 I don't really know who came up with it, but it evolved into the word BASE. 532 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,527 And all of the guys instantly just grabbed hold of BASE 533 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,001 and said, "Well, that's the one." 534 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,282 - MAN: What's your group called? - CARL: We don't... 535 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,329 Crazy Men of the World. No, what are you called? 536 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,921 That's what most people call us. 537 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,168 But we've got an organization. 538 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,770 We have to be members of it 539 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,123 although we don't have a roster of official members yet. 540 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,691 It's too new an organization. 541 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,044 The type of jumping that we do, first of all, is called BASE jumping. 542 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:28,731 B-A-S-E is an acronym for Buildings, Antennae Towers, Spans and Earth. 543 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,049 SMITH: So at that time nobody had jumped off four things. 544 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,721 We had kind of planned to do the building in Houston. 545 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,003 At that time, it was called Texas Commerce Tower. 546 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,283 You jumped off a cliff. What's next? I heard you want to jump off buildings. 547 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,882 Well, yes. It's just mankind's spirit that's bubbling out saying, 548 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,923 "if there are mountains let's climb them." 549 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,522 "if there are buildings, let's jump off of them." 550 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,842 SMITH: Houston was going through a lot of growth. 551 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,769 They were building several new buildings 552 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,644 that would be about a thousand feet high. 553 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,649 At that time, that was kind of our criteria. 554 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,882 I didn't want to do much lower than that. 555 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,482 The nice thing about those buildings is when a building is under construction, 556 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,723 they're really vulnerable to people like us. 557 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,722 Often the building would have just a chain-link fence around it. 558 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,441 You could just pull it apart and find someplace to get in or climb over it. 559 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,768 It was really easy to do. 560 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,808 There is a stairway, no elevator. 561 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,367 But there's a stairway and we just went up to the top, no problem. 562 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,642 With Carl Boenish, you have to understand 563 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,081 the number-one thing is the film. 564 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,449 So it didn't matter the security of getting away and making the jump 565 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,570 and getting all that stuff; that was secondary to getting that film. 566 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,809 So we got in there real early. We could have made a jump then and got out 567 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,048 but the light wouldn't have been good. 568 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,842 So we always had to wait on Carl for perfect light. 569 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,362 About the time we started seeing a little bit of traffic down the streets, 570 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,201 Carl let us know that time is right. The conditions are good. 571 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,728 Once we put the jumpsuits on and the cameras on and plugged them in, 572 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,049 we knew that it was just about the time. 573 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,325 As soon as we got the go-ahead, "OK, we're ready down there." 574 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,842 "The helicopter's ready. OK, you guys, we're waiting on you." 575 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,770 We knew that we had to start the countdown, turn the cameras on. 576 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,008 I didn't want to screw up. Neither one of us did. 577 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:45,250 OK. Five, four, three, two, one. 578 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,962 The thing that I remember most was looking down as I was pushing out 579 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,401 at the windows on each floor going by. 580 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,603 The first second, I saw two or three go by. 581 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,650 Then by the third second they're going by just incredibly fast. 582 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,041 (MAKES WHOOSHING SOUNDS) 583 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,127 Step off and then... (EXHALES) 584 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,490 You'll see the building behind you or the cliff or whatever it is. 585 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,449 As it just goes... (MAKES WHOOSHING SOUND) 586 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,806 MAYFIELD: I let go of my pilot chute, which opens my canopy, 587 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,809 because I see Smitty's over here. 588 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,649 His is already starting to string out. 589 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,850 I let mine go. I opened probably 150 feet below him. 590 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,487 And just as soon as I got open and I was not facing the building, 591 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,887 I breathed an enormous sigh of relief. 592 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,571 Because now the whole thing is over. All the danger is over. 593 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:52,927 All I got to do is land and hopefully get away. 594 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,811 But even if I don't get away, if I get detained by the police 595 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,281 because I was trespassing, I'm OK with that. 596 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,966 So Phil Mayfield and I, I guess we skyrocketed into history 597 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,163 and made the first completed BASE members. 598 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,011 MAN: Phil Smith is BASE jumper number one. 599 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,289 He was the first person to jump all four required objects 600 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,641 and has since made over 50 successful leaps. 601 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,560 Skydiving then was just as much a challenge as BASE jumping is now. 602 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,411 So it's that challenge that we're seeking. 603 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,925 And we really want to... We want to expand our environment 604 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,281 to include bigger and more and greater things. 605 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,404 BASE jumping, there's so many things out there that haven't been tamed 606 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,330 that I'm really excited to tackle them. 607 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,764 SMITH: 1981, that's when the BASE program started. 608 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,005 We actually told the public, told the world, about BASE. 609 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,282 Of course, it grew exponentially after that. 610 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,042 MAYFIELD: Almost immediately, Carl was bent on legitimizing it to the world. 611 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,606 Are you bored with your life nine to five 612 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,842 looking at the clock, check in, check out? 613 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,850 Look, you only go around once. You might as well go for it. 614 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,810 MAN: Carl and Jean Boenish are here. They're BASE jumpers. 615 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,611 You jump off of buildings, antennae towers and bridges? 616 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,927 Yes. And cliffs. 617 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,168 - And you're both crazy. - No, we're not. 618 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,006 As the equipment got better and word spread about this thing 619 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,441 then the numbers began really accelerating. 620 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,210 Then it became a worldwide thing. 621 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,041 Not just the United States or not just Texas and California. 622 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,764 It took off. 623 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:36,047 MAN: The still uncompleted 54-storey Crocker Center in downtown LA 624 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,727 may have seen the last skydiver jump from its lofty heights. 625 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,844 A group of intrepid divers have been climbing to the top of the building 626 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,168 and parachuting off for about four months. 627 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,248 But always at two or three in the morning. 628 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,931 The jumpers say it's a new sport called BASE diving. 629 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,485 Police aren't sure what to call it. 630 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,286 But they say there's no law against it, except maybe trespassing. 631 00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,611 Question: why did you jump off the Crocker Center building 632 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:03,087 in downtown Los Angeles? 633 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,364 Answer: because it was there and a lot of fun. 634 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,881 Carl, how can you justify breaking the law to jump that building? 635 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,050 Answer: what laws am I breaking? 636 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,210 He assigned a lot more importance to the laws of nature 637 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,407 than he did the laws of man. 638 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,605 The laws of man, in Carl's eyes, were temporary at best. 639 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,966 JEAN: There were buildings in downtown Los Angeles 640 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,809 that were under construction. 641 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,045 The Crocker Center happened to start construction 642 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,482 when we were interested in jumping off of buildings. 643 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,082 CARL: Well, you know, Jean and I have each jumped from a building. 644 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:45,210 A thousand-foot, 75-story skyscraper. 645 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,249 And people say why? 646 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,243 Why did you do it, Jean? 647 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,044 I actually do it for the fun of it. 648 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,970 It's the feeling that you get when you jump off of a high dive. 649 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,570 There's nothing to push against 650 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,927 like when you're swimming through the water. 651 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,606 You are falling, literally, for the first two seconds. 652 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:02,324 And you can't control your fall. 653 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,445 That's why you have to be very careful in the manner in which you exit. 654 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,681 One morning, Carl had gone to do an early morning jump 655 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,609 after it was already light. 656 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:17,326 MAN: Yesterday three men jumped off the unfinished building, 657 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,081 the Cracker building in Los Angeles, in their sport of skydiving. 658 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,010 And today I talked to one of the three, Carl Boenish. 659 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,289 You're standing there and no matter how seasoned a skydiver you are, 660 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,370 or a BASE jumper, you're very apprehensive and you're nervous. 661 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,522 But you know in your mind you can do it, 662 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,120 even though your physical body says you'd better not do it. 663 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:37,402 I mean, that's 700 feet straight down. 664 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,848 So finally you say, "Here we go. Ready, set, go." 665 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,090 And the first second you start accelerating incredibly fast. 666 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,965 It leaves you almost breathless. 667 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,405 And then the second second you have a feeling of freedom and power 668 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,126 and confidence, almost euphoria. 669 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,681 You think, "Wow, I feel like Superman." 670 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,444 JEAN: The next day, the LA Times had this photograph of Carl 671 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,325 right on the front page jumping off of Crocker Center. 672 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,169 Plain as day, literally. 673 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,364 Mr Boenish, my name is Fred Gooch. 674 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,371 I'm an attorney for the owner of the Crocker Center. 675 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,691 I want to advise you that at 1 :30 tomorrow afternoon 676 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,850 in department 85 to the Los Angeles County Superior Court, 677 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,927 the owners of the property are going to seek an injunction against you. 678 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,489 An X party application for a temporary restraining order against you, 679 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,410 members of your group, and any other skydivers 680 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,922 from jumping off of the Cracker Center. 681 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,568 I suggest that you have your attorney call me. 682 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,808 And I pick up the LA Times one day 683 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,890 and I see this picture of somebody jumping off Crocker Bank. 684 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,241 And I read the article and, OK, that's Carl. 685 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,404 Then a day or two later I get this phone call from Carl saying, 686 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,444 "Jim, I think I'm in a little bit of trouble." 687 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,608 Here's the message. 688 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:12,044 Carl and Jean, this is Jim Winkler. 689 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,124 Give me a call as soon as possible. 690 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,489 Cracker Bank apparently does not want to settle. 691 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,089 JEAN: They wanted to get control over this situation. 692 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,807 So the Crocker Center decided that they wanted to start legal proceedings 693 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,568 specifically against Carl because he was named in the newspaper. 694 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,762 BOB: They couldn't catch him most of the time. 695 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,761 Then, when he was caught, I would guess the prosecutor at the time 696 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,486 basically told the judge, "We know this guy's doing this." 697 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,803 So the court ordered that he could not go into anything 698 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,720 over a 30-story building without a judge's approval. 699 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,645 CARL: Why do you do your homework and know what you're doing? 700 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,049 A lot of us do this day in and day out and we do it very systematically. 701 00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:01,484 The difference in attention to detail is being a hero or being dead. 702 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,366 MAN: Some BASE jumps are illegal, others are not. 703 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,891 Tomorrow in Memphis, Tennessee, 704 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,162 as part of that city's annual Cotton Carnival 705 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,049 BASE jumpers Jean and Carl Boenish 706 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,642 plan to parachute from the top of a downtown office building. 707 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,570 JEAN: That building is called the Hundred North Main Building 708 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,720 and it's 432 feet to the top of the 36th floor. 709 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,650 A man came up and introduced himself. 710 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,687 He happened to also be the president of the Union Planters Bank Building, 711 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,850 which was the largest building in Memphis, Tennessee. 712 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,050 And he said, "Would you like to jump off of that building 713 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,400 for the Cotton Carnival?" 714 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,364 Carl and I just looked at each other. 715 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,370 We both turned back to him and we said, 716 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,280 "Well, that would be great. We'd be very interested in doing that." 717 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,363 They had a parade 718 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,361 and they had arranged for Carl and I to ride on one of the floats 719 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,162 so that we would be the co-grand marshals of the parade. 720 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,721 (CARNIVAL MUSIC) 721 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:26,964 So we were co-grand marshals and our job was to jump down from the building 722 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,287 with crystal medallions 723 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,645 that were made especially for the king and queen of the Cotton Carnival. 724 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,331 LONG: If you were around the Boenishes long enough 725 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,011 you got the feeling of people that really didn't belong. 726 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,680 They weren't weird, alright. They were different. 727 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,882 A little eccentric, even. 728 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,844 They didn't really fit anywhere, right? 729 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,126 See you at the bottom. 730 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,725 But they fit together. 731 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,683 Here we go. 732 00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:01,001 Five, four, three, two, one, go! 733 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,483 We've just reached the Trollveggen, 734 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,524 which is the largest cliff face in Europe. 735 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,282 It'll be the site for our assault on the world BASE jumping record. 736 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,842 Standing over here on this ledge is Carl Boenish and his wife, Jean. 737 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,645 They're about to fling themselves off the mountain 738 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,603 in something called BASE jumping. 739 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:53,330 At that time, I was a recently graduated dude with no career 740 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,882 from graduate school studying literature and philosophy. 741 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,243 I had no idea what I was going to do other than what I had been doing 742 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,125 which was rock climbing and sea kayaking 743 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,250 and generally doing things that were really fun that made no money. 744 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,007 So I just took my expertise in adventure and applied it to production, 745 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,930 and I ended up working for David Frost. 746 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,284 We needed to have a centerpiece for an ABC special. 747 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,846 That special being The Guinness Book of World Records 748 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,847 which showed on ABC and also on BBC. We needed to have a centerpiece thing, 749 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,770 which was an international big action-adventure thing 750 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,644 that could carry the whole show. 751 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,888 I figured BASE jumping was going to be it. 752 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,528 JEAN: Carl was thrilled to be contacted by the Guinness people 753 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,842 and given the opportunity it was... 754 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,407 This was really an opportunity being given to us. 755 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,370 Meeting Carl Boenish was... 756 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,682 ...not like anything I'd ever experienced. 757 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,441 By that time, I had been in New Guinea and the fricking North Pole. 758 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,128 I'd been all over and had seen just about every kind of person imaginable. 759 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,368 But I had never seen anybody like Carl Boenish. 760 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,121 Super energetic. He had plans to do everything 761 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,084 and he documented everything, he had pictures of everything. 762 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,922 He was everything. Everything about Carl was out there right from the beginning. 763 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,008 And it was like running into a geyser. 764 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,124 It was just like, "Whoa, look at this guy!" You know? 765 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,930 Carl, what's the old record? 766 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,771 The tallest BASE jump ever made is 4900 feet. 767 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,724 And that was made at Half Dome at Yosemite National Park. 768 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,969 High by anybody's standards. Jean, what are you going to attempt today? 769 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,401 Well, I'm not exactly sure what the height is here 770 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,881 but it's definitely over 4900 feet. 771 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,889 - All the best to you both. - Thank you. 772 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,685 JEAN: When they said let's go and do a record jump, 773 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,007 let's find a site that's the highest 774 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,044 from point of launch to point of landing. 775 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,970 And where would you like to go and do that? 776 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:56,085 The world was our oyster and we chose Norway. 777 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,162 Norway. Norway's beautiful. 778 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,845 And the people are wonderful. 779 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,602 And, as they say, there's a very open trust. 780 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,724 That's Norway. 781 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,488 It was like mounting an expedition, really. 782 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,165 We were pretty much involved in that 783 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,563 from the time that he said he could and would do it 784 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,731 until the time we left which is, I don't know, two and a half weeks later, 785 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,405 it was pretty much a mad dash. 786 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,524 I flew across the Atlantic and went to London and spent a day there. 787 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,286 Took a flight up to Oslo and the Boenishes were already there. 788 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,404 I just jumped in a rental car with them and we drove up to Andalsnes 789 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,090 which took all day. 790 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,722 It was that time of year where the nights weren't really nights. 791 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,842 There's a midnight sun kind of thing. 792 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,531 So the sun never really totally set. 793 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,042 So we just kept driving and driving and driving. 794 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,687 That went on for eight hours and we ended up in Andalsnes 795 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,404 and I saw this cliff for the first time. 796 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,603 I said, "Wow, that's going to be interesting." 797 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,121 It's a scary sort of place. 798 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,047 It's like Sleepy Hollow with these huge cliffs rising on both sides. 799 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,202 Really formidable and really intimidating. 800 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,088 And it was really bad weather. It was just drizzly and cloudy and weird. 801 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,363 I wasn't real enthusiastic that it was going to break any time soon. 802 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,164 Wasn't necessarily a bad thing. 803 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,046 I knew it would take us a little while to figure out what we were going to do 804 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,049 and where we were going to jump. 805 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,881 One glance up there and I knew it was going to take me a while 806 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,401 to get fluent with the whole area. it was just too big. 807 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,245 It was too big and too confusing up there. 808 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,045 So I was lucky enough to meet with a friend. 809 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,128 He had climbed around here a whole lot. 810 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,882 He was not only a great sort of partner and climber 811 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,606 but a really decent, soulful guy. 812 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,929 We got along perfectly from the beginning. 813 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,721 We hooked up and every day we'd hike up the back side of Trollveggen, 814 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,525 go up there marching around looking for places to go. 815 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,484 MAN: I started climbing when I was 15 816 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,128 and I've been doing a lot of climbing in the area here in Romsdal. 817 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:31,771 I first met Carl when the others asked me to be a local guide 818 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,521 and be responsible for the security up in the mountains 819 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,130 while they were doing the parachute. 820 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,131 I really didn't know what's going on then, what they were going to do. 821 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:46,280 But it was really a exciting time to be together with them. 822 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,601 I remember his leg. 823 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,810 That he had hurt it once and broke it, I think. 824 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,083 And that he did not go to a doctor. 825 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,164 LONG: When Fred and I first started hiking up to the top of Troll Wall 826 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,090 to figure out a location where we're going to jump, 827 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,205 Carl went along with us but he was such a slow hiker 828 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,848 that ultimately we decided most of the time to go up there without him 829 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,082 because he just couldn't keep up. 830 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,602 Carl, when he got up into the mountains, 831 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,246 had some problems with his leg all the time. 832 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,121 He got very tired because it was hurting very much, I think. 833 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,163 LONG: I go, "What what's with this guy?" 834 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,961 "Why is he going so fricking slow?" It was driving me crazy. 835 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,289 It'd take half the day to get up to the top of the cliff, right? 836 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,210 And I thought he was just lazy. 837 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,370 And finally there's a little stone hut 838 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,166 that you can sort of take shelter in on your way up. 839 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,607 And we got about halfway up and we got to the stone hut 840 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,923 and it started raining so we had to actually go in this hut. 841 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,885 We went in this hut. We're sitting down and Carl's rubbing his leg. 842 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,128 I go, "What's going on? What's up, Carl?" 843 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,245 And he pulls his pant leg up and his leg has this... 844 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,563 The bone goes down like this and takes this jog. 845 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,564 I'm like, "Carl what's going on with that leg?" 846 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,887 And it turned out he'd broken his leg. 847 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,085 He'd broken his leg hang gliding a couple years before. 848 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,410 And he'd never got it set because he's a Christian Scientist. 849 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,568 I didn't know anything about any of that. 850 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,167 CARL: I believe that there's a law and order to the universe. 851 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,248 Some people call it God. 852 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,600 I don't care what you call it. 853 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,525 I just know that mathematics never fails us. 854 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,809 If we get the wrong answer, we didn't apply something correctly. 855 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,682 Nothing happens by chance. 856 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,885 Every single thing that ever happens, happens for a reason. 857 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,651 Happens due to the law of the universe. 858 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,289 LONG: One of the things I kept looking for 859 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,529 was someplace that was cantilevered out like that. 860 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,487 So we found this thing, Stabben pinnacle. 861 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,410 We get to the top and there's a bunch of big boulders around. 862 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,490 What you do is you do what's called a rock test. 863 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,211 And what you want is something that falls 864 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,325 somewhere between 15 and 20 seconds before it hits the wall. 865 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,287 The whole thing with BASE jumping is you don't want to hit the wall. 866 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,687 That's what's going to kill you. 867 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,804 Fred and I pushed ten rocks off the top of Stabben pinnacle 868 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,601 and they all hit between three and five seconds. 869 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,087 Every time. 870 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,010 We did the rock test and immediately ruled that out 871 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,645 as something we would do. 872 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,691 Carl goes, "No, it's too dangerous. it doesn't give it enough time." 873 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,761 There was quite a lot of people because it was a big team 874 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,450 and they had all the helicopters. 875 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,451 So it was both local people that was going up to see what was going on 876 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,050 and there was a lot of tourists 877 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,881 that were stopping because of the helicopter traffic that was going on. 878 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,808 LONG: It was a big event in Europe also. 879 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,123 So news teams from all over Europe were here 880 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,766 waiting for this thing to happen. 881 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,564 I mean, it was a zoo. 882 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,644 I was hoping to be able to do this thing sort of on a low profile. 883 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:19,209 But by the time the thing finally happened, it was no secret to anybody. 884 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,883 The Boenishes were both... Well, Jean, it was hard to tell 885 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,526 because she seemingly never got excited about anything. 886 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:32,363 But Carl was coming out of his skin. You know, like uncontainable enthusiasm. 887 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,642 This is a celebration of the human spirit 888 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,804 and thank you for bringing your spirits too. 889 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,924 Take a shot of Jean and me and the crowd. 890 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,642 Put it on Infinity. You have it on Infinity? 891 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,290 OK, look at the camera. 892 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,250 No, it's the other button. 893 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,688 LONG: I mean, it's like a geyser, you know? Just like Old Faithful. 894 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,764 The day prior to when we really got the thing on film, 895 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:06,329 he had done the jump basically at night already, and done it perfectly. 896 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,330 So we knew that everything was going to be perfect. 897 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,046 As soon as the sun comes up, he can do this jump. 898 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,447 We're going to get it a couple times so we got it covered, 899 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:15,607 then we're out of there. 900 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,241 Carl's enthusiasm was so high, everybody was really high on this thing. 901 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,922 Remember, BASE jumping had never been filmed on any kind of big scale. 902 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,289 It was little teeny 16mm documentaries 903 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,960 that people showed on their bathroom wall. 904 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:36,081 And a huge network television crew had swooped in here 905 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,124 with an internationally famous star, David Frost. 906 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,601 He was the host of The Guinness Book of World Records 907 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,406 and all this hoopla right? And, boom, we have six cameras. 908 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,002 I think Boenish had another couple cameras. We had cameras everywhere. 909 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,811 This is going to be a big event. Everything was going great. 910 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,123 Everybody was enthusiastic. It was sort of a big thing. 911 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,010 Then we got up, the sun was perfect. 912 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,441 It was a perfect bluebird day. That was lucky enough. 913 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,484 We got everybody in position in a matter of a couple hours. 914 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,369 DAVID FROST: They're getting ready now. 915 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,081 The Boenishes approaching the jumping off spot, coming out there. 916 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,767 And the pilot is doing a fantastic job. It's very difficult right there. 917 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,169 He seems to be balancing that helicopter almost on one skid. 918 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,324 And there are the Boenishes over there. There they are. 919 01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:25,444 Perched on that very, very tiny outcrop. 920 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:30,282 Now with the help of our key mountain climber, cameraman as well, 921 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,529 they're making their final equipment checks. 922 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,611 Thirty seconds. 923 01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:39,646 Are you ready? 924 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,767 - Twenty seconds. - Twenty seconds. 925 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,968 Ten seconds. 926 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,047 Are you ready? 927 01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:06,240 Five, four, three, two, one, go! 928 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,642 - Congratulations. - Thank you very much. 929 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,081 Let's find Carl now. He's a little behind. 930 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,208 JEAN: He was very enthusiastic. 931 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,125 WOMAN: There he is. Alright! Perfect landing! 932 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,284 JEAN: He was always enthusiastic about all of his projects. 933 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:49,327 Particularly after a jump was finished or the film was in the can. 934 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:51,408 Terrific. Congratulations. 935 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,046 - Thank you very much. - That really excited him. 936 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:58,444 It was exciting. Wow. Wow. 937 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,489 That's a jump of a lifetime. 938 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,770 Well, did you see how much lift this big parachute has? 939 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,089 - I was staying up forever. - Listen, just by landing safely, 940 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,409 that means you have set now a new world's record for BASE jumping. 941 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,443 Norris, do you have the exact figures? 942 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,326 At least 400 feet further than any other BASE jump in history. 943 01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:37,444 And the speed, because you deployed so late, 944 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,643 it was like flashing through a 20-story building in one second. 945 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,368 Carl was really enthusiastic about having finished the jumps. 946 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,970 To see that wall rushing by. Man, we loved it. 947 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,449 And for Carl, too, to have been able to make a record jump. 948 01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:02,165 It was like, "Let's get out of here before the mountain falls on top of us." 949 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,367 I just had this feeling of doom 950 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,689 hanging over something that was potentially that sketchy. 951 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,450 So the moment they are over, 952 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,570 as though retroactively something could happen, 953 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,883 and combined with the fact that that was the last piece 954 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,008 that we needed to do on the show, 955 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:24,967 both of those combined and in concert gave everybody a reason to get... 956 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,885 It put jet underneath everybody. 957 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,082 They were gone. Barn! Out of there. 958 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:43,488 JEAN: After our record jumps, we were both really tired 959 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:48,367 because we had been up for a number of days with very little sleep. 960 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:51,689 Particularly in the last 24 hours or more. 961 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,684 It was one o'clock in the morning and it was not dark. 962 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:03,250 We really had a great deal of difficulty in this midnight sun situation. 963 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,847 We had a short night that night. 964 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,806 I was... 965 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,088 ...tired from the jumps the day before. 966 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,644 And I told him I was going to sleep in 967 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:04,005 and he had decided he wanted to go and jump the Bruraskaret 968 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,448 which was the normally jumped site, so I didn't think much of it. 969 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,964 But I was grousing a bit. "You're tired. Why don't you stay?" 970 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,731 "Why do you have to go do this right now, 971 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:20,528 right today, when you're tired? Stay here and sleep." 972 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,611 That morning that Carl left for the jump as I was lying in bed, 973 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,563 I was grumping at him 974 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,811 that I didn't think that he should be doing this because he must be tired. 975 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,604 And that was the way 976 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:40,291 I was expressing my feelings and my intuitions about it. 977 01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:47,449 If I had had 30 years more of experience that I have now, 978 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:52,646 perhaps I would have expressed my feelings in a different way 979 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:58,005 and understood that there was a message there for me. 980 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:02,324 That it was not a good idea for him to do this. 981 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,969 That's the honest truth about it. And... 982 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,362 I can only look at it in hindsight from here. 983 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,722 HUSOY: There was two locals. Friends of mine that followed them up. 984 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,401 And also Jean was aware that he was going up, of course, 985 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:37,602 but somewhere on the route they decided to go for Stabben instead. 986 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,081 His foot made much trouble for him 987 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,402 because I'd seen that in earlier days as well, 988 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,963 that he was having problems when we were walking up in the rough terrain. 989 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,527 It was quite rough up in the back of the Trolltind. 990 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,924 And it was a decision he took there and then 991 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,250 to get back down an easy way, I think. 992 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,409 LONG: The fact is we had done the record jump, filmed it, 993 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,564 and not more than 12 hours later, he had hiked back up there. 994 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,524 That didn't make any sense to me. I don't know how that was possible. 995 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,884 The fact we heard he'd done Stabben didn't make any sense 996 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:21,245 because we had agreed when we did the rock-drop test that it was suicidal. 997 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,206 Nobody could survive that jump. Why had he done that? 998 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,164 Why was it that if he was going to go back up 999 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,409 he didn't ask Fred or I to go up with him? 1000 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:38,809 MAN: On Friday night I was on Grand Hotel at Andalsnes 1001 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:45,246 because Carl had borrowed a room so he could pack his parachute. 1002 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,005 So I and my brother was with him. 1003 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:55,241 And they explained a lot about BASE jumping and how to pack the chute 1004 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,563 so it released quick and things like that. 1005 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,849 It didn't go well that day. 1006 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:09,008 I have an impression that Carl, more than most of us, 1007 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,728 thought that God had a plan for him that he had to fulfill. 1008 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,324 I am a person who remembers in pictures 1009 01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:26,048 so I have a small glimpse of what happened during the day. 1010 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,287 Me and my brother, we picked him up in my brother's car 1011 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,011 where he lived with the Griiners. 1012 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:39,365 I remember driving from the Griiners' and up to Trollstigen. 1013 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,240 It was not so good weather. 1014 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,564 It was a little rain and quite windy. 1015 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:30,842 We went not so fast because he had the problem with his leg. 1016 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,682 And then we went further up to Stabben. 1017 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:41,203 We climbed up to the pinnacle... 1018 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:48,041 ...and sat there for at least... it was more than a half an hour, 1019 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,242 maybe up to an hour. 1020 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:58,048 He started to throw stones to measure the height of the wall. 1021 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,730 We sat on top of the pinnacle and chatted 1022 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,845 about different matters of life. 1023 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:17,446 On the top of the mountain he asked us if we knew the story from the Bible. 1024 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,723 The Temptation of Jesus. 1025 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,882 The Devil brought Jesus to Jerusalem 1026 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,927 and put him on the highest point of the temple. 1027 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,250 And he said that if you throw yourself down, 1028 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:44,721 God will send his angels and carry you in their arms 1029 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:49,050 so you will not hurt your foot on the rock. 1030 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,967 Jesus answered, "Do not put the Lord on test." 1031 01:18:54,120 --> 01:19:01,208 Carl just had... he had a particular laughter. 1032 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,130 He pointed to his parachute and he said, 1033 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,084 "This is my angel." 1034 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:18,089 I think it's really amazing kind of last words. 1035 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:24,403 I don't know what it means but it feels like it means something. 1036 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,210 Finally, he said that he wanted to jump. 1037 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,409 We prepared our cameras. 1038 01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:39,569 So I saw his jump through the lens. 1039 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,962 I saw the back of the whole body 1040 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,482 more like just his feet diving down. 1041 01:19:54,640 --> 01:20:00,010 His parachute was stalling against the mountain. 1042 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:07,371 He slid under his parachute down the mountain 1043 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,648 and stopped in some snow. 1044 01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,847 No signs of life. 1045 01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:21,128 No movements or anything after the parachute stopped. 1046 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,968 It was before the days of the mobile phone. 1047 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:32,206 It was decided my brother would run down 1048 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,927 to call the police and start the rescue operation. 1049 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:48,724 I waited, looking down on him, on top of the mountain. 1050 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:59,609 Police district Romsdalen, on Saturday the 7th of July, '84 1051 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,964 approximately 4:35pm, I received a call from Arnstein Myskja. 1052 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,289 Arnstein explained he was calling from Trollstigen Fjellstue 1053 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,007 and reported that he had just, at approximately at 3:50pm, 1054 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,370 been a witness to Boenish, Carl Ronald, jump from Stabben, 1055 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,370 a mountaintop situated between Trollveggen and Semletind 1056 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:20,369 in Trolltindmassivet. 1057 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,251 The jump had, for one reason or another, failed 1058 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:27,809 such that Boenish hit the mountain wall and was suspended over the valley. 1059 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,524 MYSKJA: We had brought a camera each, 1060 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,611 and we were taking pictures when the accident happened. 1061 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,123 You get so shocked you started to think about... 1062 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,289 That you don't want to sell the photos. 1063 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,200 Why don't we have the photos and just don't sell it? 1064 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,722 It's not more difficult than that. 1065 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:59,450 But we decided to destroy the pictures. 1066 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,169 Just to open up and pull it out of the cassette 1067 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,484 so it was fully exposed to the light. 1068 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,200 LONG: I went back to where I was staying after we wrapped. 1069 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,484 I think I just laid down. It was probably still mid to late afternoon 1070 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,046 and I didn't really get up until the next morning 1071 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,562 when Fred came hammering on my door, 1072 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,047 saying Carl's been in an accident. 1073 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,842 Fred came and got me. I got in the car. 1074 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,162 We drove down, looked up, saw Carl's body. 1075 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,805 It wasn't moving. 1076 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,641 But his red parachute was sort of billowing in the air. 1077 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,047 He was probably three quarters of a mile away 1078 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:54,125 and a couple thousand feet up the flank of the bottom of the wall. 1079 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,004 We went back to the police and said, 1080 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:02,444 "We're going to have to try and figure something out to get up to get him." 1081 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,884 They're going to have to call in a coast guard helicopter, and they did. 1082 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:11,165 They had to fly up into the slab at the bottom of the wall. 1083 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,444 We couldn't really climb up to it. It was sort of an isolated area, 1084 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,007 but they recovered Carl's body, brought it on the helicopter. 1085 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:24,047 They flew that helicopter down to the police station and landed. 1086 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,924 Meanwhile, we hadn't gotten a hold of Jean, 1087 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,607 which was probably not fair to her. 1088 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,931 Nobody got a hold of Jean until the helicopter was on its way. 1089 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,687 I was there with the police officer and let me tell you, 1090 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,282 one of the boldest things I've ever seen anybody do, 1091 01:23:44,440 --> 01:23:47,205 was to call her up. I mean, I'll never forget it. 1092 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:52,008 This guy is talking on the phone. He knew that the situation was bad. 1093 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,329 And he's talking to her and he was holding it together 1094 01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:57,568 with the last ounce of strength that he had 1095 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,207 saying your husband had been involved in an accident 1096 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,810 and it doesn't look good. 1097 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,561 I'll never forget watching that. God! 1098 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,490 That was awful watching that. 1099 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:13,526 But... 1100 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,646 That was just one of those things where you just had to watch it 1101 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,810 and deal with it, you know? It was like, "This is happening." 1102 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,844 "Is this really happening?" Well, it was, you know? 1103 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,370 JEAN: The police had come. Two of them. 1104 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,491 And I met them downstairs at Griiners' hytter. 1105 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:45,767 And they told me that Carl was dead. 1106 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:51,882 Everybody in the room looked at me, silently. 1107 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:57,166 And I could tell instantly that it was up to me and my response... 1108 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:04,962 ...to determine the entire atmosphere that would surround everything 1109 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,521 that would happen subsequent to this announcement. 1110 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,769 At first, I didn't understand because it didn't make sense 1111 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,970 because I still thought he had jumped from Bruraskaret. 1112 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,165 But then as the conversation proceeded, 1113 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,529 that was when it was revealed that he had jumped from Stabben. 1114 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,964 And things started to fall into place in a very different way. 1115 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:36,408 So my response may not have been what they expected because... 1116 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:44,765 ...I needed to put on the hat of finding out what happened. 1117 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,362 Carl and I were not just husband and wife. We were professionals. 1118 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,760 We were pioneers. 1119 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:56,490 We were people working together in something that was a vital activity. 1120 01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:01,083 And as a vital activity that other people were participating in as well, 1121 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:05,609 the necessity was to find out what in the world happened. 1122 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,328 He had a good exit. 1123 01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:12,728 But somehow obviously got turned around into the cliff. 1124 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:20,042 And that is not a site where you have achieved the distance 1125 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,164 from the cliff that you need to be able to handle 1126 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:27,609 being turned into the cliff that soon upon opening. 1127 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:33,568 I have a picture in my mind of him lying here with his red helmet on. 1128 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,730 A blue jacket and also the injuries. 1129 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:45,281 He had many bad injuries and serious injuries both in breast, 1130 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,564 head and also the arms and the legs. 1131 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,326 I think he died immediately. 1132 01:26:53,280 --> 01:27:00,880 I could see that it looked like Carl, 1133 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,288 as far as the presence of the body. 1134 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:09,884 But the real Carl was absolutely clearly not there. 1135 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,401 I have seen a lot of dead people, and dying, 1136 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,730 but this particular moment here is one of the strongest moments 1137 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:22,085 because of his visions, his dreams, and what he did in Trollveggen. 1138 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:28,481 What Carl did was something that the whole country was interested in. 1139 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:33,846 So it was... it was strange. 1140 01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,645 Touching. 1141 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,081 It's about... 1142 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,045 ...limits. Living on the edge. 1143 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:49,326 And, of course, his dreams as I said, his vision, 1144 01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:52,643 and then suddenly he was here, lying dead. 1145 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:57,368 And you know, when they are here, they are really dead. 1146 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,444 JEAN: After that we got on a ferry 1147 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,131 and it was just, you know, beautiful. 1148 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,287 And I cried a little in the car. 1149 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,285 And kept driving back to Andalsnes to Griiners' hytter. 1150 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,401 A couple of days after Carl died 1151 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:30,367 was the day that Erik Fenz was planning on jumping. 1152 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,489 There I was. I was going to jump off the Troll Wall and Carl dies. 1153 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,126 I'm just, like, holy shit. 1154 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,687 But there was something that was, you know, 1155 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,406 there was something that was bigger than the moment 1156 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,241 that was driving me to want to continue. 1157 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,923 JEAN: Word spread like wildfire that Carl had died. 1158 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,001 Very quickly people around the world in the jumping community 1159 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:02,565 knew what had happened. 1160 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:07,720 And it really, really shocked and shook so many people. 1161 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,410 I said, "I want to still do it." 1162 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,931 She was like, "I want to do it too. With you. We're going to go do it." 1163 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:24,603 Not wanting him to seem disrespectful in making ajump, 1164 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:30,921 it would remove any aura of seeming disrespect 1165 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:39,403 for me to be the one to be making a jump first after Carl's death 1166 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:45,010 to show people it's fine, it's OK. 1167 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,802 Carl wanted everybody to get on with their lives after he died 1168 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,766 and that there was nothing wrong with BASE jumping because of this. 1169 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,726 We just had to learn from it and go on. 1170 01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:37,728 (WOMAN SPEAKING IN NORWEGIAN) 1171 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,203 JEAN: As I was under canopy coming down from that jump 1172 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,041 I had my last personal time. 1173 01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,487 I had my last quiet time. 1174 01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,120 And I could see as I was coming in for a landing 1175 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,370 that there was a group that had gathered. 1176 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:13,606 And there was the prospect of having to deal with the press. 1177 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,808 Well, I'm a BASE jumper. And I'm a professional. 1178 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:25,131 And Carl wanted that no one should miss a beat in their lives 1179 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:29,080 if and when he died, whenever that would have been. 1180 01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,282 And it didn't matter how. 1181 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,880 Everybody goes through the same things in life. 1182 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:37,004 From the time they're born to the time they die. 1183 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,009 We all go through birth and death. 1184 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:43,921 But we have had cultural pressures about how to handle it. 1185 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,646 What did you feel doing this jump today? 1186 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:51,049 It was just like any other BASE jump. It was the same. 1187 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,607 Were you thinking of some special thing? 1188 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,770 No. No. Nothing really special. 1189 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,248 So you didn't have your husband in mind? 1190 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:07,207 Well, under canopy I thought of him. But that's really kind of personal. 1191 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:15,606 Everyone has his own real way of reacting. It will be individual. 1192 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:21,409 And BASE jumping encourages people to think as individuals, 1193 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,241 to discover and explore their individuality. 1194 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,091 It is not unique to BASE jumping. 1195 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:32,842 BASE jumping is just a condensed version. 1196 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:38,080 Somehow, in this earthly experience, 1197 01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,011 we have to depart. 1198 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:45,364 There has been no one who has not departed from this earthly experience. 1199 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:50,887 So don't let death impede you as a hurdle. 1200 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,362 Don't let it be a wall that you bang up against 1201 01:32:54,480 --> 01:32:57,290 and then can't see past, can't see through, 1202 01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,846 can't see over. 1203 01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:03,931 Climb the walls quickly as you can and go on. 1204 01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:10,369 We know everyone doesn't want to do this 1205 01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,807 but if they see us do it, they can be inspired 1206 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,924 to go out and bowl a perfect 300 game or mow the lawn. 1207 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:19,169 It doesn't matter what. They're encouraged by what we can do. 1208 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,767 I think it makes, you know, a better quality life for us 1209 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,962 to know that we can do this. 1210 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,128 You always wondered with Carl 1211 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,402 that underneath, what's the real story? 1212 01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,331 What are those core beliefs that would drive you to do that? 1213 01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,920 I got to think it's that sort of mystical thing 1214 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,646 where he thought that he could... That mind-over-matter thing. 1215 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,087 He was the one person that could get away with it. 1216 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,488 But the Troll Wall had other ideas. 1217 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,804 JEAN: What deserves the praise? 1218 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,321 Death doesn't deserve praise. 1219 01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:21,322 Life and the wondrous works that we do in life from our good ideas, 1220 01:34:21,480 --> 01:34:24,245 those deserve the praise. 1221 01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,681 That's what we should be standing by. 1222 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,287 That's what we should be paying attention to. 1223 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,131 And that's what Carl was all about. 1224 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:45,760 Carl would love to have the new wing suit flyers standing on his shoulders 1225 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,962 and jumping v"- 1226 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:53,928 They have taken from what he was trying to inspire in people 1227 01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,607 about breaking through artificial limitations 1228 01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:03,847 and going beyond what people say can or cannot be done. 1229 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:12,044 He would be right there with the wing suit flyers. 1230 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,208 And, in essence, is. 1231 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,484 (THE AIR THAT I BREATHE BY THE HOLMES 1232 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:42,129 If I could make a wish 1233 01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,922 I think I'd pass 1234 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:55,649 Can't think of anything I need 1235 01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:04,441 No cigarettes, no sleep 1236 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:11,170 No light, no sound 1237 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:15,126 Nothing to eat 1238 01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:20,167 No books to read 1239 01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:26,207 Sometimes 1240 01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:30,490 All I need is the air that I breathe 1241 01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,888 And to love you 1242 01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:38,728 All I need is the air that I breathe 1243 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,362 Yes, to love you 1244 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:50,243 All I need is the air that I breathe 1245 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,122 Sometimes 1246 01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,444 All I need is the air that I breathe 1247 01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,451 And to love you 1248 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,849 All I need is the air that I breathe 1249 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:31,005 Yes, to love you 1250 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:38,527 All I need is the air that I breathe 1251 01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,927 PGGCQ came UPON me 1252 01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:57,446 And it leaves me weak 1253 01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:03,325 So sleep, silent angel 1254 01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:06,489 Go to sleep 1255 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:13,127 Sometimes 1256 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:17,165 All I need is the air that I breathe 1257 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,170 And to love you 1258 01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:25,730 All I need is the air that I breathe 1259 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,446 And to love you 1260 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,285 (SUNSHINE SUPERMAN BY DONOVAN) 1261 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,724 Sunshine came softly 1262 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,805 Through my a-window today 1263 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,248 Could've tripped out easy 1264 01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,331 it But I've a-changed my ways 1265 01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:05,682 It'll take time, I know it But in a while 1266 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:10,245 You're gonna be mine, I know it 1267 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,409 We'll do it in style 1268 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:19,448 Cos I made my mind up You're going to be mine 1269 01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:20,891 I'll tell you right now 1270 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,886 Any trick in the book now, baby 1271 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,731 All that I can find 1272 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,320 Superman or Green Lantern 1273 01:40:30,440 --> 01:40:34,331 Ain't got a-nothin' on me 1274 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,603 I can make like a turtle 1275 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:42,971 And dive for your pearls in the sea 1276 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:48,929 A-you can just sit there thinking on your velvet throne 1277 01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,411 Yes 1278 01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:55,248 About all the rainbows a-you can a-have for your own 1279 01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:03,082 Cos I've made my mind up You're going to to be mine 1280 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:04,844 I tell you right now 1281 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,442 Any trick in the book a-now, baby 1282 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,769 All that I can find 1283 01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:18,411 Everybody's hustlin' a- just to have a little scene 1284 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,163 When I say we'll be cool 1285 01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,921 I think that you know what I mean 1286 01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:29,762 We stood on a beach at sunset 1287 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,850 Do you remember when? 1288 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,489 I know a beach where, baby 1289 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,365 A-it never ends 1290 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,569 When you've made your mind up 1291 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,889 Forever to be mine 1292 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,525 Mm-mm-mm-mm 1293 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:54,682 I'll pick up your hand And slowly blow your little mind 1294 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,009 Cos I made my mind up 1295 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,050 You're going to be mine 1296 01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:02,531 I'll tell you right now 1297 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:06,531 Any trick in the book a-now, baby 1298 01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:10,287 That I can find 1299 01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:59,242 Superman or Green Lantern ain't got a-nothin' on me 1300 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,562 I can make like a turtle 1301 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:07,527 And dive for your pearls in the sea Yep 1302 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,688 A-you, you, you can just sit there 1303 01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:14,681 While thinking on your velvet throne 1304 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,646 'Bout all the rainbows you can 1305 01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,604 A-have for your own 1306 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,803 When you've made your mind up 1307 01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,764 Forever to be mine 1308 01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,570 Mm-mm-mm-mm 1309 01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,290 I'll pick up your hand 1310 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:35,962 And slowly blow your little mind 1311 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,209 When you've made your mind up 1312 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,204 Forever to be mine 1313 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,762 I'll pick up your hand 1314 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:50,966 And slowly blow your little mind 1315 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,970 Blow your little mind... 1316 01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:58,167 Subtitles: BTI Studios 1317 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:29,804 English SDH 116038

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