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It's over.
Olivia and I are engaged.
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- Is this real?
- It is.
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'Till she finds out the truth.
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'Bout how it all started.
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We should just
square up the rent
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and move forward.
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It's not really gonna happen
for you, Joey...
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Ah, now you want me to give up, too, just
so you can feel better about yourself?
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Are you available to, uh, talk?
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Who sent you here?
How did you get here?
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Okay. Everything that we have
right now is real.
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Is it real?
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It was you, wasn't it?
You are not coming back here.
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Joe, you're kind of scaring me.
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What did Eric do this time?
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You don't understand,
you're not alone in this.
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I don't even know
who you are!
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What I don't understand
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is why you changed
your story... twice.
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No, I don't want you
to talk this time.
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First, I just want
you to listen.
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- Why don't you...
- Because I don't want you
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to tell me something, again,
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that closes off another avenue
of defense for you, all right?
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I know your side,
you hear mine.
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Okay, I couldn't find
Cliff Jones.
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I know, I know.
I know.
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You sat with him
face-to-face.
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But the fact that I couldn't
locate him anywhere
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means probably
Dick Andreesen couldn't either.
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And we're already
dealing with priors...
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the Toledo thing, the New Orleans
insurance thing with FEMA.
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I looked this up.
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None of that
pertains to the case.
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They are going to use it
to impeach your credibility.
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And not just because
this is Salt Lake City,
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but because you are
a professional liar.
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It will be the first thing that
Andreesen brings up, I promise you.
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Unless... unless he
brings up Eloise Brand.
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Which he can't.
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Which will appear
to be very similar.
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Which is not similar. It is not
similar at all, you understand.
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There's nothing similar
about those two.
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I didn't love Eloise Brand.
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You understand that I
didn't love Eloise Brand?
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Besides which,
it's inadmissible.
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I know this.
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It's inad...
good, okay.
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So then we'll just rely
on the jurors to unhear it
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if Dick slips and it
accidentally comes out, right?
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The point is, Eric, there is what you
would like the playing field to be
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and there is what it is.
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Which one do you want
to play on?
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- Okay. So...?
- Okay.
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What is the reality here?
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The will.
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Your argument with Olivia,
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overheard just minutes
before the murder
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by a guy who was going
to check on a sketch
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she was apparently
drawing for his kid.
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Your fingerprints
are on the hammer.
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I was remodeling.
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Eric.
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The valets
in the lower parking lot
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describe your exit
as "rattled."
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And when the police found
you in Truckee, you fled.
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You changed your story twice.
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And I know, I know... Eric, I know
you didn't know she was dead,
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but the fact is you lied,
for whatever reason.
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And when you agreed
to take a polygraph...
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- Volunteered.
- That's right. Yes, thank you.
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When you volunteered
against the advice
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of your arresting officer...
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I was innocent.
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You failed your test.
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Because I was feeling guilty,
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but not about
what they thought.
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I was a mess,
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which is why, I know,
I should have listened.
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Okay.
So, I'm sorry.
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Please, I'm sorry, okay?
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So, what...
what are you suggesting?
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Please tell me
this isn't your full lunch.
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Yep. Hammersmith
had me until 2:00
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- bitching about the new parking.
- Oh, God. I know, right?
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Honestly I don't think
anybody likes it better.
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Right? Then he wants us to
support him on the team jerseys.
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I assume you're coming here for
a plea 'cause you don't have a case.
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Actually, I have a great case.
You don't have a body.
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You think the
jury's gonna look at one photo
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from the crime scene
and think otherwise?
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Even you don't think otherwise!
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- I believe my client.
- Ha!
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Did they fix this or not?
It's still cold.
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Yeah, that's the new one, so I don't think
you're having, whatever, Cream of...
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- Leukemia?
- Gross.
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It's first-degree murder.
You know that.
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Without a body?
Good luck.
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What don't you like
about the new jerseys?
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The whole "retro" thing? It's tired.
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Look, I can agree to allocute
for no more than 24 years.
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That's never gonna happen.
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The will? The witnesses? Even if
I drop to second, 24 is a gift.
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You know that.
Great, now it's too hot.
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We're gonna get less than that
with a jury, even in Salt Lake.
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Okay, I'll agree to not oppose
a request for no more than 20.
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I'm going in
at manslaughter, 10.
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- With his priors? Really?
- Yeah.
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Will you do me a favor?
Will you taste this?
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Smell it at least?
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It smells like soup
and chemicals.
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I don't know
what you want from me.
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We get a jury, I'll roll we get first.
I'll risk a trial.
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I will accept second, but
we have to allocute for 12.
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18, he's out in 12.
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Seriously, that is the most disgusting
thing I think I've ever tasted.
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That's because you have to
add hot water to it, Dick.
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You can't just put cold water
in it and then microwave it.
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- Right. I put cold water in?
- Yes. 14.
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Aggravated, 16. That's it.
That's all I'm doing.
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Oh. There they are, by the way.
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Yeah, there is kind of a "Damn
Yankees" thing going on there.
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- Right?
- All right, 16.
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But we're gonna have
to do this as an Alford.
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That's fine by me.
It's all guilty.
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Hey. Hi, Alan.
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Hey, so I still cannot
get Eric Neill
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to make any sort of a statement
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other than
a flat-out denial.
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And I know you're gonna
think that I'm crazy,
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but I'm kind of actually...
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I'm starting to believe him.
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- You know, Nate...
- And he gave me a name.
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Actually, he gave me
a bunch of names,
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but the one that stands out
is this Cameron Morgan.
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He's this thuggish, young guy.
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Apparently, Olivia loved to
surround herself around young guys.
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Nate, Amy and Dick
have come to an agreement.
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Who's Amy and Dick?
Dick Andreesen?
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Wait, the prosecutor
Dick Andreesen?
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Yeah, and Amy Lambson, that new
public defender up out of Provo.
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Nice gal. Probably not that
new anymore, actually.
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Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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This isn't possible.
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I've still got
some more stuff to lay out.
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Listen to this... this guy,
Cameron, he's got a list...
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Take yes for an answer, Nate.
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We have the guy.
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- No.
- You arrested him.
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No, I need a few more...
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Please, can we have
a few more days?
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- Please?
- It's over.
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You done good.
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Excuse me, Petra.
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Sorry.
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There's a guy to see you
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from the TV show
"Heart of Homicide."
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- Oh, thank you.
- Sure.
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It must have
been very, very traumatic.
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To put it mildly, yep.
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The FBI storming your kitchen.
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Christmas Eve, right in
the middle of dinner.
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What was that like?
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Seeing your own father
dragged off like that?
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Right.
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Okay, so flash forward
10 years, here we are.
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Your brother's been arrested.
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Does it bring up any memories?
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You know, we're gonna ask you
a lot about your brother.
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You're okay talking
about all this?
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Yeah, I think it...
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it's gonna
get out there anyway.
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That's what you tell a reporter
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when they ask you about
your brother's arrest?
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Well, I wasn't surprised.
I mean, it's a pattern.
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And I really don't see
how it matters now anyhow.
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It matters because your brother's
case is flimsy at best.
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And pre-trying him
in the court of public opinion
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doesn't exactly
do him any favors.
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Well, there's something
else I told him
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that I guess
you're really gonna like.
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Oh, God.
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I'm the one who told the
police where he was.
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When the detective came
to Mom's hospice room,
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I told them he was at our
family's cabin in Truckee.
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Great.
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Okay, actually, maybe you should
be standing with the prosecutor.
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This is him in here.
His name is Dick Andreesen.
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And I'm happy to introduce
you if you like.
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If not, I'll just see
you in the courtroom.
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On the docket is case number
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2013-0009.
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State of Utah
versus Eric Neill.
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It's my understanding the parties
involved have come to an agreement.
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Yes, sir, Your Honor.
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We have indeed
reached an agreement.
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The defendant has agreed
to a change of plea
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to the reduced charge
of aggravated manslaughter.
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Christmas in February.
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Excuse me.
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- Cheers.
- Cheers, man, cheers.
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- Tom Davis.
- Alan Pape.
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I know, the man himself.
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Uh, listen, I'll get
right to the point.
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It was really impressive work
with Eric Neill.
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- Really good stuff.
- Mmm.
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Now, I understand,
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if this doesn't fly for you,
I totally get it,
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but this crime, this...
this Eric Neill intrusion,
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it has spooked the heck
out of a lot of folks up here.
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The consensus is
we need new security.
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A new private firm,
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one we can count on,
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headed by a real pro.
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Oh, gosh, we already got some
pretty top-notch outfits here.
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You're...
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a very gracious man,
as I've heard.
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But I have not heard this
bunch agree on anything
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as simple as setbacks
from mailboxes
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like they agree
on this one big thing.
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The person for the job...
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is Alan Pape.
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Oh, well...
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Well, I, uh...
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honestly, I... I've been
with the department...
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32 years.
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I hope you don't mind,
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a couple friends of mine at
county let me know your salary.
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Oh.
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You decide to accept this,
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we're prepared to triple it.
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Bring in a couple guys...
your pick.
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It's all your call.
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Well, give it some thought.
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I'll give you a call
in a couple of days,
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just check back in.
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Again, it's really...
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stellar work.
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It's really impressive.
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Thank you.
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Lookin' at ya.
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Got it.
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- Okay, .147.
- 147.
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Edge of water.
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Other side.
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Authorities say
what could be the hand
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of famed children's book
author Olivia Lake
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has been discovered in a stream
a half mile from her property,
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adding both closure as well
as renewed attention
250
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to the events surrounding
her now four-year-old murder.
251
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Investigators are swarming
the abandoned mine shafts
252
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that dot the estate
surrounding Lake's...
253
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This call is subject
to monitoring and recording.
254
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So many, whatever,
pithy lines I wrote
255
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for this very moment.
256
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Was that one of them?
257
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No, but this is.
258
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Unless I'm wrong,
which I doubt,
259
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because I have nothing else to do
but go over this ad infinitum,
260
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the last I heard, it was you
261
00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:22,138
who turned me over
to the fucking police.
262
00:13:22,138 --> 00:13:24,930
Why are you here now?
263
00:13:35,263 --> 00:13:37,305
State law says
that conditional gifts
264
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when the condition's
precedent go unfulfilled
265
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become the property
of the giver,
266
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the condition in this case
being "Will you marry me,"
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the nonfulfillment being
"I can't, I'm dead."
268
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The fucking police
gave it to me.
269
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What would you like me
to do with it?
270
00:13:52,305 --> 00:13:55,263
So, you're here
'cause you wanna know
271
00:13:55,263 --> 00:13:58,971
what to do
with Aunt Beth's ring.
272
00:13:58,971 --> 00:14:00,513
What happened?
273
00:14:00,513 --> 00:14:05,221
Since Mom died, you don't
have any other projects?
274
00:14:05,221 --> 00:14:07,055
You know what?
275
00:14:07,055 --> 00:14:08,680
This will be in
Salt Lake in storage.
276
00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:10,055
You can get it in 2032.
277
00:14:10,055 --> 00:14:12,305
I'm not interested
in being the rudder
278
00:14:12,305 --> 00:14:17,347
that keeps you from
free-forming around your life.
279
00:14:17,347 --> 00:14:18,680
Are you serious?
280
00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,388
Or one of your books you
get 600 pages in writing
281
00:14:21,388 --> 00:14:23,347
and then abandon completely.
282
00:14:23,347 --> 00:14:25,639
Okay, you know what?
283
00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:28,597
I was wrong to think that
you might not deserve this.
284
00:14:28,597 --> 00:14:30,764
W-Wait!
285
00:14:30,764 --> 00:14:31,889
I'm sorry.
286
00:14:31,889 --> 00:14:33,472
I'm sorry!
287
00:14:39,013 --> 00:14:40,971
I'm sorry.
288
00:14:40,971 --> 00:14:43,013
Don't abandon me.
289
00:14:49,221 --> 00:14:50,930
- There you go.
- Great, thank you so much.
290
00:14:50,930 --> 00:14:51,847
You're welcome.
291
00:14:54,013 --> 00:14:56,096
Hey, Jim, take care
of this for me, okay?
292
00:14:56,096 --> 00:14:58,013
Yeah, I'm back.
So, when?
293
00:14:58,013 --> 00:14:59,347
Monday?
294
00:14:59,347 --> 00:15:00,930
No, no, no,
what do you mean Monday?
295
00:15:00,930 --> 00:15:02,513
This is mining country, man.
296
00:15:02,513 --> 00:15:05,263
There are more geologists
than there are Starbucks.
297
00:15:05,263 --> 00:15:07,513
Then you call someone else.
298
00:15:07,513 --> 00:15:10,430
No, hold on, there has to be
something that can dig that deep
299
00:15:10,430 --> 00:15:12,430
in the amount of time
that we need it.
300
00:15:12,430 --> 00:15:16,305
Then... then you make new
connections, thank you!
301
00:15:16,305 --> 00:15:18,180
- Detective Henry. Hi. Nate.
- What? Hi.
302
00:15:18,180 --> 00:15:20,513
- We met a few years ago. I'm Petra.
- Petra.
303
00:15:20,513 --> 00:15:23,013
You're familiar with the Government Records
Access and Management Act, I assume.
304
00:15:23,013 --> 00:15:25,347
I'm not, but I am with you.
305
00:15:25,347 --> 00:15:27,305
What department did you say
you were with again, Petra?
306
00:15:27,305 --> 00:15:30,388
Actually, I'm not with a department.
I'm Petra Neill.
307
00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:33,013
Oh, Jesus. No, no, you
can't be here, then.
308
00:15:33,013 --> 00:15:35,388
- Please, just give me a moment.
- No, no, no, you can't be here.
309
00:15:35,388 --> 00:15:37,155
A GRAMA request makes
cops' notes available...
310
00:15:37,181 --> 00:15:37,597
GRAMA?
311
00:15:37,597 --> 00:15:39,221
- G-R-A-M-A...
- GRAMA.
312
00:15:39,221 --> 00:15:41,263
Makes cops' notes
available to the defense,
313
00:15:41,263 --> 00:15:43,263
which makes them
part of the trial record.
314
00:15:43,263 --> 00:15:45,096
Okay, which means
you have my notes,
315
00:15:45,096 --> 00:15:46,722
and I need you
off the property now.
316
00:15:46,722 --> 00:15:48,347
I have copies, which is why
I have a few questions for you.
317
00:15:48,347 --> 00:15:50,096
On the night of the murder,
you interviewed Joel Hurley.
318
00:15:50,096 --> 00:15:51,513
That's what this is, right?
319
00:15:51,513 --> 00:15:53,555
Then you also interviewed
his friend, Frank Scott.
320
00:15:53,555 --> 00:15:55,180
Uh, yeah.
321
00:15:55,180 --> 00:15:58,055
What I noticed was when referring
to the night Olivia was killed,
322
00:15:58,055 --> 00:16:00,096
Joel said, "We took El
Camino to Arroyo Parkway
323
00:16:00,096 --> 00:16:02,305
to the Eastridge Mall
and saw the 10:20 'Hobbit 2.'"
324
00:16:02,305 --> 00:16:04,430
- Yeah, if you say so.
- Now listen to what Frank said.
325
00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:06,555
No comment.
326
00:16:06,555 --> 00:16:08,013
"We went to Eastridge Mall.
327
00:16:08,013 --> 00:16:10,597
We took El Camino to Arroyo,
and we saw the 10:20 showing
328
00:16:10,597 --> 00:16:12,263
of 'Hobbit 2: The Desolation of Smaug.'"
329
00:16:12,263 --> 00:16:14,930
Go to two. I don't
understand your point.
330
00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,930
They both almost said
exactly the same thing.
331
00:16:16,930 --> 00:16:19,347
They were going
to see the same movie.
332
00:16:19,347 --> 00:16:20,930
Okay.
Okay, sure, fine.
333
00:16:20,930 --> 00:16:22,430
But here's my question.
334
00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:24,930
Who says which road they took
and the exact time of the show
335
00:16:24,930 --> 00:16:26,764
when they're talking about
where they were one night?
336
00:16:26,764 --> 00:16:29,764
Two people who are talking
to a police detective
337
00:16:29,764 --> 00:16:31,971
the day after a murder
was discovered.
338
00:16:31,971 --> 00:16:34,347
Hey, if you're suggesting
that two guys that I've known,
339
00:16:34,347 --> 00:16:37,764
one I knew for two years,
one I've known for well over 30,
340
00:16:37,764 --> 00:16:39,472
are lying for some reason...
341
00:16:39,472 --> 00:16:41,555
No, what I'm saying is that every
other person in your notes
342
00:16:41,555 --> 00:16:43,430
spoke a certain way,
and these two didn't.
343
00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:45,430
And honestly, I'm surprised
you didn't notice.
344
00:16:48,430 --> 00:16:50,472
You ever heard of zebra-itis?
345
00:16:50,472 --> 00:16:54,305
- No.
- Okay, here's what zebra-itis is,
346
00:16:54,305 --> 00:16:56,138
and then I'm gonna
need you to step back
347
00:16:56,138 --> 00:16:58,930
and stop contaminating
my crime scene.
348
00:16:58,930 --> 00:17:02,722
If it smells like a horse and it
leaves a trail of horse prints
349
00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:05,013
and a big pile of horse manure,
350
00:17:05,013 --> 00:17:07,221
it's a horse.
351
00:17:07,221 --> 00:17:10,805
But amateurs and rookies,
they think they're so smart.
352
00:17:10,805 --> 00:17:14,096
Web sleuths spend all day
poking through rainbows,
353
00:17:14,096 --> 00:17:16,013
looking for zebras.
354
00:17:16,013 --> 00:17:17,764
- Unicorns.
- I'm sorry?
355
00:17:17,764 --> 00:17:19,472
Which still would work
as a metaphor,
356
00:17:19,472 --> 00:17:22,305
but rainbows is unicorns, even
though I totally get your point.
357
00:17:23,472 --> 00:17:25,263
I need you to move now.
358
00:17:25,263 --> 00:17:27,138
- You didn't think it was a horse.
- Yo, Adam!
359
00:17:27,138 --> 00:17:28,847
- Please.
- "All signs point to Eric,
360
00:17:28,847 --> 00:17:31,513
but in my gut, hmm, it just
doesn't feel like Eric to me."
361
00:17:31,513 --> 00:17:33,430
Emphasis mine, but you
said it to yourself
362
00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:35,805
in your own case notes
right here, page 31.
363
00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:38,096
You didn't think
it was Eric at the time.
364
00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:45,680
I got this, Adam.
Thanks, anyway.
365
00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:51,555
Look, I'm just one guy.
I'm not the system, so...
366
00:17:51,555 --> 00:17:53,597
But you got angry
at the system.
367
00:17:53,597 --> 00:17:56,388
Your letter to the prosecutor, Dick
Andreesen, asking for more time,
368
00:17:56,388 --> 00:17:58,013
it's in the discovery.
369
00:17:58,013 --> 00:18:01,221
Even though he had already
closed down the investigation.
370
00:18:01,221 --> 00:18:03,805
You were looking for the
elusive zebra, perhaps?
371
00:18:04,971 --> 00:18:06,847
Unicorn maybe, even?
372
00:18:06,847 --> 00:18:09,388
My issues with what went
down four years ago
373
00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:11,472
have nothing to do with
what's happening here now.
374
00:18:11,472 --> 00:18:13,680
Olivia's friend JC said Joel
owed her 10 months' back rent
375
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,013
by the night of the murder.
376
00:18:15,013 --> 00:18:16,221
And Horacio, the gardener,
377
00:18:16,221 --> 00:18:17,513
said that Joel
sold him his truck
378
00:18:17,513 --> 00:18:19,221
for a quarter
of what it was worth
379
00:18:19,221 --> 00:18:22,971
and then split town three
days after the murder.
380
00:18:22,971 --> 00:18:24,971
What are you trying to say?
381
00:18:24,971 --> 00:18:27,221
I want to talk to Frank Scott.
382
00:18:27,221 --> 00:18:29,138
You don't think it's
weird that you found the hand
383
00:18:29,138 --> 00:18:30,930
on Michael O'Connor's property?
384
00:18:30,930 --> 00:18:33,930
And on the day
Olivia was murdered,
385
00:18:33,930 --> 00:18:37,347
she called Michael O'Connor and
talked to him for, like, a minute...
386
00:18:37,347 --> 00:18:39,805
- 52 seconds.
- ...just before she died.
387
00:18:39,805 --> 00:18:42,889
Yeah, I did find that
weird at the time.
388
00:18:44,096 --> 00:18:45,221
And?
389
00:18:48,639 --> 00:18:50,930
Believe it or not, you know,
390
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:53,096
I followed up on that.
391
00:18:53,096 --> 00:18:55,639
There were witnesses
to the call.
392
00:18:55,639 --> 00:18:57,055
Olivia was upset.
393
00:18:57,055 --> 00:18:59,055
She had had a fight
with your brother.
394
00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:01,013
Michael tried to console her.
395
00:19:01,013 --> 00:19:03,180
He couldn't.
396
00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:05,680
Okay, don't you think
it's weird that she...
397
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,805
that Michael and his
associate, Tom Davis,
398
00:19:08,805 --> 00:19:10,971
flew to Turks and Caicos
the very next day?
399
00:19:10,971 --> 00:19:14,221
As they did every New Year's.
400
00:19:14,221 --> 00:19:18,096
Same destination, same flight.
401
00:19:18,096 --> 00:19:19,889
You know what
would've been weird?
402
00:19:19,889 --> 00:19:21,472
If they didn't leave.
403
00:19:21,472 --> 00:19:23,305
Have you
re-interviewed him?
404
00:19:23,305 --> 00:19:26,180
- No.
- Because?
405
00:19:26,180 --> 00:19:28,221
Because...
406
00:19:28,221 --> 00:19:31,263
because of what you've
already read in my notes.
407
00:19:31,263 --> 00:19:32,764
He never left the house.
408
00:19:32,764 --> 00:19:34,971
His cell phone
never left the house.
409
00:19:34,971 --> 00:19:38,263
- There were...
- Witnesses, I get it.
410
00:19:38,263 --> 00:19:42,138
- Wait, was the hand...?
- What, cut off in the murder?
411
00:19:42,138 --> 00:19:44,513
Not unless she was killed
by a dozen tiny rodents
412
00:19:44,513 --> 00:19:47,847
over a period
of 8 to 10 months, no.
413
00:19:47,847 --> 00:19:50,639
And, yes, we are checking
all the old mine shafts
414
00:19:50,639 --> 00:19:52,597
that feed into that stream.
415
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,305
I got a question for you.
416
00:19:59,971 --> 00:20:02,347
You care so much about
your brother Eric...
417
00:20:04,805 --> 00:20:07,263
Where were you
when he needed you most?
418
00:20:09,305 --> 00:20:10,472
Hmm?
419
00:20:12,430 --> 00:20:14,347
And why now, four years later,
420
00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:17,305
are you suddenly all over this?
421
00:20:20,096 --> 00:20:24,055
I think I might have
been wrong about Eric
422
00:20:24,055 --> 00:20:27,805
in this specific situation.
423
00:20:27,805 --> 00:20:30,722
Ah, oh.
424
00:20:30,722 --> 00:20:32,555
Okay.
425
00:20:32,555 --> 00:20:34,180
Hmm.
426
00:20:34,180 --> 00:20:35,513
Okay.
427
00:20:36,555 --> 00:20:38,055
So, this is about you.
428
00:20:43,805 --> 00:20:45,180
I mean, yeah.
429
00:20:46,764 --> 00:20:49,639
What?
We went to the movies.
430
00:20:49,639 --> 00:20:51,513
"Hobbit."
431
00:20:51,513 --> 00:20:53,597
"Hobbit 2."
10:20 show.
432
00:20:53,597 --> 00:20:56,096
You took El Camino to Arroyo
Parkway to the Eastridge Mall.
433
00:20:56,096 --> 00:20:59,347
It's all in the case notes.
434
00:20:59,347 --> 00:21:02,347
- Do you wanna stick with that?
- Would you let me...?
435
00:21:02,347 --> 00:21:04,513
I'll ask the questions.
436
00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:06,513
Hey, so, all we need to know
437
00:21:06,513 --> 00:21:08,597
is if you and Joel,
438
00:21:08,597 --> 00:21:11,680
for whatever reason,
439
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,639
made up that story.
440
00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:18,221
I can find out now
or we can talk later.
441
00:21:18,221 --> 00:21:20,055
I can find out then.
442
00:21:22,930 --> 00:21:24,055
Okay.
443
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,555
Okay.
444
00:21:28,555 --> 00:21:32,013
- If you're really asking me.
- Yeah.
445
00:21:33,513 --> 00:21:36,764
I've got this
to say about Joel.
446
00:21:36,764 --> 00:21:40,347
There's the Joel
that everyone sees...
447
00:21:43,388 --> 00:21:46,221
and then there's
the other Joel.
448
00:21:51,347 --> 00:21:54,263
I don't understand
why that's emasculating.
449
00:21:54,263 --> 00:21:56,930
Oh, co... at the crime scene?
450
00:21:56,930 --> 00:21:58,388
In front of everybody?
451
00:21:58,388 --> 00:22:01,680
And making me have
no choice about it?
452
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,680
Uh, where's Morgan?
453
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,597
At Owen's.
I'll text Marney.
454
00:22:06,597 --> 00:22:08,639
And you know Frank.
I mean...
455
00:22:08,639 --> 00:22:12,639
like I'm going to empower
her to talk to him?
456
00:22:12,639 --> 00:22:14,263
To Frank?
457
00:22:14,263 --> 00:22:17,722
You're not empowering her.
She already has the power.
458
00:22:17,722 --> 00:22:19,305
She's a private citizen.
459
00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:20,930
She can talk
to whoever she wants.
460
00:22:20,930 --> 00:22:23,388
You're just afraid
that... 'cause Frank is...
461
00:22:23,388 --> 00:22:26,096
- The loosest cannon ever.
- That you're gonna lose control.
462
00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:31,722
I don't even know
what it's control of.
463
00:22:31,722 --> 00:22:33,805
But this hand comes up,
464
00:22:33,805 --> 00:22:36,263
and then this girl shows up,
465
00:22:36,263 --> 00:22:41,639
and suddenly I have no choice but to follow
somebody else's agenda and it's not mine.
466
00:22:41,639 --> 00:22:43,472
It sounds like she was right.
467
00:22:43,472 --> 00:22:46,597
- Which is beside the point.
- Which is exactly the point.
468
00:22:46,597 --> 00:22:48,347
- No, it's not.
- Yes.
469
00:22:48,347 --> 00:22:52,180
You had the case completely yanked
away from you four years ago.
470
00:22:52,180 --> 00:22:53,971
You never liked the result,
471
00:22:53,971 --> 00:22:58,847
and if it was some dude who just
suddenly showed up out of the blue,
472
00:22:58,847 --> 00:23:01,639
you would be saying to
me, "Mel, oh, my God,
473
00:23:01,639 --> 00:23:03,639
the luckiest thing
happened."
474
00:23:05,263 --> 00:23:07,847
I don't see
where this is going.
475
00:23:07,847 --> 00:23:12,013
You were emasculated
because it was a woman,
476
00:23:12,013 --> 00:23:13,639
is what I'm saying.
477
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,096
Okay.
I believe you're correct.
478
00:23:20,096 --> 00:23:22,013
Yeah, I know.
479
00:23:22,013 --> 00:23:25,221
You'll be fine.
You can handle her.
480
00:23:25,221 --> 00:23:29,055
You know who I would be
worried about is Alan.
481
00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:35,096
Assuming she can get Joel back,
when do you think that would be?
482
00:23:35,096 --> 00:23:37,472
Oh!
And that's another thing.
483
00:23:37,472 --> 00:23:42,180
She's so supremely confident that
she can get Joel to come back.
484
00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:44,055
I mean, Joel?
485
00:23:44,055 --> 00:23:46,639
Joel freaking hated
it here by the end.
486
00:23:46,639 --> 00:23:48,513
I mean, come on, you saw
his Facebook posts.
487
00:23:50,555 --> 00:23:53,889
He's a totally different guy
down there.
488
00:23:53,889 --> 00:23:57,889
I say there's no way
489
00:23:57,889 --> 00:23:59,722
she'll get him to come back.
490
00:24:02,889 --> 00:24:03,889
What?
491
00:24:05,722 --> 00:24:08,639
I think you're
underestimating this person.
492
00:24:11,055 --> 00:24:14,680
- We'll go right up these lilies here.
- All right! Whoo-hoo!
493
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,180
Here we go!
494
00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:19,221
Oh, yeah!
495
00:24:19,221 --> 00:24:20,597
Whoo!
496
00:24:20,597 --> 00:24:22,722
- Whoo-hoo!
- Whoo!
497
00:24:27,347 --> 00:24:29,889
What can kill an alligator?
498
00:24:29,889 --> 00:24:33,138
Let's see. What can hurt
one of these things?
499
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,889
What can harm an alligator?
500
00:24:36,388 --> 00:24:37,472
Nothing.
501
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:43,513
Well, scratch that. We can.
We're its only predators.
502
00:24:43,513 --> 00:24:45,639
Unless you keep leaning over
the edge like that, Junior.
503
00:24:45,639 --> 00:24:46,722
Then things are gonna change.
504
00:24:49,722 --> 00:24:53,138
Uh, uh, Junior...
505
00:24:53,138 --> 00:24:55,096
- You see that out there?
- Where?
506
00:24:55,096 --> 00:24:57,221
- Straight?
- That's our little trophy.
507
00:24:57,221 --> 00:24:58,722
Straight ahead, right there!
508
00:24:58,722 --> 00:25:00,764
- Right there.
- Let's not spook this one.
509
00:25:00,764 --> 00:25:02,897
See him right there
just beyond that tree?
510
00:25:02,923 --> 00:25:03,430
Yeah.
511
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:06,513
All right, the next job is
get that sucker on the boat.
512
00:25:06,513 --> 00:25:08,305
Who's gonna
do the deed? Ava?
513
00:25:08,305 --> 00:25:10,472
Thanks, but, no, thanks.
514
00:25:10,472 --> 00:25:13,639
Okay, definitely not Ava.
How about you, Dad?
515
00:25:16,138 --> 00:25:18,013
- Taylor?
- Oh, Junior?
516
00:25:18,013 --> 00:25:19,764
You gonna do it?
517
00:25:19,764 --> 00:25:21,805
- Huh?
- I think so.
518
00:25:21,805 --> 00:25:23,138
All right.
519
00:25:23,138 --> 00:25:24,472
I thought you might be unsure,
520
00:25:24,472 --> 00:25:27,971
but you're gonna
give her a go, huh?
521
00:25:27,971 --> 00:25:30,639
Put it on your shoulder, son.
522
00:25:30,639 --> 00:25:32,971
You ever handle
one of these before?
523
00:25:32,971 --> 00:25:35,805
Not too many times.
524
00:25:35,805 --> 00:25:37,639
I know it's hard
with that life preserver,
525
00:25:37,639 --> 00:25:41,472
but you just put her right
up there on your arm there.
526
00:25:41,472 --> 00:25:44,930
Make sure it's on safety until
you get that sucker ready.
527
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:47,055
You're gonna wanna hit it
just between the eyes here.
528
00:25:47,055 --> 00:25:49,933
That's the sweet...
that's the sweet spot.
529
00:25:49,959 --> 00:25:51,472
Nice, deep breath.
530
00:25:51,472 --> 00:25:52,889
Nice, deep breath.
531
00:25:52,889 --> 00:25:55,138
You don't wanna ruin
that trophy.
532
00:25:55,138 --> 00:25:56,472
Yeah!
533
00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:59,013
There you go, Junior!
534
00:26:03,347 --> 00:26:05,221
Skin's all rolled up.
535
00:26:05,221 --> 00:26:08,180
Tell Ty I sent you. He'll cut
you a deal on that taxidermy.
536
00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:11,013
- Sounds good.
- I got your meat on the ice here.
537
00:26:11,013 --> 00:26:13,055
Keep these "not for sale"
stickers visible
538
00:26:13,055 --> 00:26:14,847
in case the DWF stops you.
539
00:26:14,847 --> 00:26:16,680
You are good to go.
540
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,263
- Thanks, Joel.
- My pleasure.
541
00:26:18,263 --> 00:26:20,513
Buckshot, hold onto that.
542
00:26:20,513 --> 00:26:21,639
Bye.
543
00:26:21,639 --> 00:26:22,930
Hope you had a great time.
544
00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:25,221
If you did, we're
Big Bayou Gator Guides.
545
00:26:25,221 --> 00:26:29,096
If not, we're Outdoor
Adventures, as the joke goes.
546
00:26:29,096 --> 00:26:32,180
Thanks, Pat.
547
00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:34,889
Hope they got the sizes
right this time.
548
00:26:45,347 --> 00:26:46,722
Bobby.
549
00:26:48,513 --> 00:26:50,263
Oh, hi.
550
00:26:50,263 --> 00:26:53,430
I didn't see you there. Can
I help you with something?
551
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:55,764
- Are you Joel Hurley?
- I am.
552
00:26:55,764 --> 00:26:57,555
Oh, thank God.
553
00:26:59,513 --> 00:27:02,221
Can we go somewhere and talk?
554
00:27:02,221 --> 00:27:06,221
Ugh!
555
00:27:07,971 --> 00:27:10,805
Bobby! Sorry.
556
00:27:10,805 --> 00:27:12,597
They got the kids large again.
557
00:27:12,597 --> 00:27:14,055
You gotta call them
about next week.
558
00:27:14,055 --> 00:27:16,055
I still haven't gotten
their thing.
559
00:27:16,055 --> 00:27:18,721
I'll give them a shout
and get it straight.
560
00:27:18,747 --> 00:27:19,388
Sorry.
561
00:27:19,388 --> 00:27:20,930
Is this your art?
562
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:22,263
It is.
563
00:27:33,096 --> 00:27:35,597
Do you recognize me?
564
00:27:35,597 --> 00:27:37,096
Should I?
565
00:27:37,096 --> 00:27:39,639
I'm Petra Neill.
I'm Eric Neill's sister.
566
00:27:41,388 --> 00:27:44,889
- Please, just hear me out.
- Look, I hardly knew him.
567
00:27:44,889 --> 00:27:47,597
- And from what I did know...
- I know he could be complicated.
568
00:27:47,597 --> 00:27:50,930
No, he could be an asshole is
what he could be, to be honest.
569
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:54,597
Well, he said that
you were a good guy.
570
00:27:54,597 --> 00:27:58,263
He said you might be the
only one who could help me.
571
00:27:58,263 --> 00:27:59,971
He said you'd at least listen.
572
00:27:59,971 --> 00:28:01,263
Please.
573
00:28:05,263 --> 00:28:07,055
Do you mind
if we change the music?
574
00:28:07,055 --> 00:28:10,555
- Sure. To what?
- Silence.
575
00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:15,971
Okay, the music is now silence.
576
00:28:15,971 --> 00:28:17,889
What's up?
577
00:28:17,889 --> 00:28:21,971
Do you remember one night, maybe
a week or two before the murder,
578
00:28:21,971 --> 00:28:25,180
when you saw someone on the
property and you chased him off?
579
00:28:25,180 --> 00:28:26,555
Why?
580
00:28:26,555 --> 00:28:29,472
You told Eric about it
that night.
581
00:28:29,472 --> 00:28:31,305
You said his name was Cameron.
582
00:28:31,305 --> 00:28:33,639
I think, uh...
583
00:28:36,305 --> 00:28:39,805
someone told me then that
it would've been Cameron,
584
00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:41,722
so, sure, Cameron.
585
00:28:41,722 --> 00:28:43,430
I need to find him.
586
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:45,388
Well, I saw him
for about 10 seconds.
587
00:28:45,388 --> 00:28:47,347
It was in the dark.
It was the woods.
588
00:28:47,347 --> 00:28:50,388
He got in the car and drove off, so I'd
have no idea on how to locate him.
589
00:28:50,388 --> 00:28:53,513
So he could... he said those will
work until we get the 400s.
590
00:28:53,513 --> 00:28:56,930
There was someone in that
car that Cameron got into.
591
00:28:56,930 --> 00:29:00,847
And you told Eric back then
that you might know him.
592
00:29:00,847 --> 00:29:04,347
I think I said that he might have
looked vaguely familiar, yeah.
593
00:29:04,347 --> 00:29:06,513
You said he was a bartender.
594
00:29:06,513 --> 00:29:08,639
Look, I don't know.
It was four years ago.
595
00:29:08,639 --> 00:29:10,388
Do you remember which bar?
596
00:29:10,388 --> 00:29:14,180
Oh, God, I...
I really don't know.
597
00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:17,513
Please don't tell me this is what you
flew all the way down here to find out.
598
00:29:27,305 --> 00:29:28,764
Keep going.
I'm listening.
599
00:29:30,555 --> 00:29:32,513
I believe my brother
is innocent.
600
00:29:32,513 --> 00:29:35,138
Of the crime that he
confessed to committing?
601
00:29:35,138 --> 00:29:37,764
He pled out
without admitting guilt.
602
00:29:37,764 --> 00:29:39,347
He had no other choice.
603
00:29:40,930 --> 00:29:45,013
The media, his lawyer,
everyone rushed to judgment.
604
00:29:45,013 --> 00:29:47,305
But they never found a body.
605
00:29:47,305 --> 00:29:50,555
And I believe that if I can prove
there were other suspects,
606
00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:52,889
people that
the attorney overlooked,
607
00:29:52,889 --> 00:29:55,221
then I believe I can
get him an appeal.
608
00:29:55,221 --> 00:29:57,055
Now, after all this time?
609
00:29:57,055 --> 00:29:58,971
There's new information.
610
00:29:58,971 --> 00:30:02,180
In prison, someone told
Eric that that guy Cameron
611
00:30:02,180 --> 00:30:04,971
was talking about a
safe in Olivia's studio
612
00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:07,138
and how she kept cash
and drawings in there.
613
00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:10,305
And Eric has been writing
to his lawyer, but...
614
00:30:10,305 --> 00:30:11,639
don't get me started on her.
615
00:30:11,639 --> 00:30:15,889
So, please...
616
00:30:15,889 --> 00:30:19,847
do you think maybe you
can remember which bar?
617
00:30:19,847 --> 00:30:22,930
If I can find out
who that bartender is,
618
00:30:22,930 --> 00:30:24,430
I think maybe
I can find Cameron.
619
00:30:24,430 --> 00:30:27,555
You know the town. There
are a lot of bars.
620
00:30:27,555 --> 00:30:30,430
Could you point it out if
you were standing there?
621
00:30:30,430 --> 00:30:34,055
I don't know.
Possibly.
622
00:30:34,055 --> 00:30:36,096
Would you know him
if you saw him?
623
00:30:36,096 --> 00:30:37,722
What are you asking me?
624
00:30:39,305 --> 00:30:41,096
No, I can't go back there.
625
00:30:41,096 --> 00:30:43,305
Just for a day or two.
That's all I need.
626
00:30:43,305 --> 00:30:46,764
Please. You know the area.
You lived on the property.
627
00:30:46,764 --> 00:30:48,430
You know the town,
you know the people.
628
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:49,597
Knew.
629
00:30:51,221 --> 00:30:53,263
Please, just think about it?
630
00:30:54,805 --> 00:30:56,096
Here's my number.
631
00:30:59,555 --> 00:31:02,555
I have no one else
I can turn to.
632
00:31:02,555 --> 00:31:05,472
You're literally the only person
on the planet who could help me.
633
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:08,513
Please.
634
00:31:09,722 --> 00:31:11,722
I'm sorry.
I can't.
635
00:31:25,889 --> 00:31:27,930
- Hey, babe.
- How was work, honey?
636
00:31:27,930 --> 00:31:28,847
Fine.
637
00:31:32,472 --> 00:31:34,639
What's going on?
638
00:31:34,639 --> 00:31:39,472
So, this is all just about
finding Cameron, really?
639
00:31:43,513 --> 00:31:45,221
Yeah.
640
00:31:45,221 --> 00:31:47,847
You... I mean,
the weird thing
641
00:31:47,847 --> 00:31:52,096
is that I was gonna tell the
police back then about Cameron,
642
00:31:52,096 --> 00:31:54,180
but, you know,
I just got caught up
643
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,722
in the whole "Eric, Eric" thing
with everybody else, and...
644
00:31:57,971 --> 00:31:59,430
I mean, even when we got here,
645
00:31:59,430 --> 00:32:01,472
it just... it still
kept eating at me,
646
00:32:01,472 --> 00:32:05,263
that look on
Cameron's face that night.
647
00:32:05,263 --> 00:32:08,388
It was... like,
you know how crocodiles,
648
00:32:08,388 --> 00:32:10,555
they have that
lower row of teeth
649
00:32:10,555 --> 00:32:13,555
like they're smiling at you, like
they know something about you?
650
00:32:14,847 --> 00:32:16,221
That was Cameron.
651
00:32:18,388 --> 00:32:20,971
Then Eric confesses
and four years go by
652
00:32:20,971 --> 00:32:24,597
and Olivia's hand shows up
653
00:32:24,597 --> 00:32:27,764
and his sister
flies down to Louisiana,
654
00:32:27,764 --> 00:32:30,472
and now, fuck.
655
00:32:30,472 --> 00:32:33,513
So, what's the problem?
656
00:32:40,055 --> 00:32:43,472
There's a reason we left there,
and it wasn't just Olivia.
657
00:32:43,472 --> 00:32:47,722
To be honest, I don't
think I can go back there again.
658
00:32:49,597 --> 00:32:51,305
Why are you looking
at me like that?
659
00:32:51,305 --> 00:32:53,180
Well, of course you can.
660
00:32:54,805 --> 00:32:57,971
I swore to
myself I never would.
661
00:33:00,055 --> 00:33:03,555
Yeah, but you're different now.
662
00:33:03,555 --> 00:33:05,096
Everything's different now.
663
00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:08,513
I know you don't
believe in the universe...
664
00:33:08,513 --> 00:33:10,847
Well, I believe it exists.
665
00:33:10,847 --> 00:33:14,055
But you don't believe it
gives you opportunities.
666
00:33:14,055 --> 00:33:16,764
Oh, it really hasn't.
667
00:33:16,764 --> 00:33:20,263
Well, what if
the one thing between...
668
00:33:20,263 --> 00:33:23,513
- How long is it total?
- 15 to 20.
669
00:33:23,513 --> 00:33:27,388
Yeah, well, what if the difference
between 16 more years of jail
670
00:33:27,388 --> 00:33:29,805
and his sudden freedom is you?
671
00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:35,930
How come you get
to be so perfect?
672
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:39,263
- Because I don't.
- Because you do.
673
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:42,971
And you are.
674
00:33:47,055 --> 00:33:49,597
I still can't believe
we made it here.
675
00:33:54,305 --> 00:33:55,472
Come here.
676
00:34:06,639 --> 00:34:08,138
I love you.
677
00:34:08,138 --> 00:34:09,930
I love you, too.
678
00:35:14,722 --> 00:35:17,096
It's kind of okay, actually.
679
00:35:17,096 --> 00:35:21,971
In my mind, Summit had
morphed into this Arkham,
680
00:35:21,971 --> 00:35:25,096
Hellboy, Lovecrafty, Salem,
Hall of Ghosts thing,
681
00:35:25,096 --> 00:35:27,388
and then I get here
and it's like,
682
00:35:27,388 --> 00:35:30,889
"Oh, right, it's just craft
stores and galleries
683
00:35:30,889 --> 00:35:33,138
and... here's a word I
don't use that often...
684
00:35:33,138 --> 00:35:34,764
it's quaint."
685
00:35:36,055 --> 00:35:37,639
And she is in a pipe dream.
686
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:41,096
I don't wanna say I feel
sorry for her, but...
687
00:35:41,096 --> 00:35:44,180
Uh, all right.
Speak to you soon, love.
688
00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:46,971
We're off to go
track down a ghost.
689
00:35:46,971 --> 00:35:49,930
Yeah. Love you, too. Bye.
690
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:51,096
- Sorry.
- Got you one anyway.
691
00:35:51,096 --> 00:35:52,472
- Thanks.
- It's okay.
692
00:35:52,472 --> 00:35:54,430
Oh, here.
Also if you need it.
693
00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:56,347
I need to step away
for a few minutes.
694
00:35:56,347 --> 00:35:58,764
I have some things
I need to take care of.
695
00:35:58,764 --> 00:36:01,430
Uh, wait, seriously?
696
00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:03,096
Yeah, I... I, uh...
697
00:36:03,096 --> 00:36:05,221
I gotta follow up on some stuff
that I started the other day.
698
00:36:05,221 --> 00:36:07,722
But if you find anything,
just text me.
699
00:36:07,722 --> 00:36:09,971
- All right.
- Otherwise, an hour, hour and a half?
700
00:36:09,971 --> 00:36:11,930
Yeah, all right.
701
00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:13,388
I'll, uh...
702
00:36:13,388 --> 00:36:17,305
I'll just go track down the
dude that knew Cameron.
703
00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:18,889
Great.
704
00:36:18,889 --> 00:36:20,388
Yeah, should be easy.
705
00:36:20,388 --> 00:36:22,347
- All right.
- Okay.
706
00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:24,180
- Hour.
- Oh, and, Joel?
707
00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:27,472
- Yeah?
- Seriously, thank you.
708
00:36:29,055 --> 00:36:31,347
Yeah, of course.
709
00:36:31,347 --> 00:36:33,513
- All right, I'll see you soon.
- Okay.
710
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:53,388
Yeah, shit,
I remember that clown.
711
00:37:53,388 --> 00:37:57,096
If you do find him, tell him he
still owes me for two months.
712
00:37:57,096 --> 00:38:00,180
Better yet, bring him here.
I'll tell him myself.
713
00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:02,639
Well, he was here with
a girl, though, right?
714
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:05,388
Yeah, poor little seƱorita.
She didn't know what hit her.
715
00:38:05,388 --> 00:38:07,555
Then that guy, pfft, bolts
716
00:38:07,555 --> 00:38:09,847
day before Christmas.
717
00:38:12,263 --> 00:38:13,889
Any idea where she is?
718
00:38:13,889 --> 00:38:17,930
Mmm, I wanna say she was
gone about a week later.
719
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:19,847
She's Mexican.
720
00:38:19,847 --> 00:38:21,722
Could be anywhere.
721
00:38:21,722 --> 00:38:23,930
She got a name?
722
00:38:23,930 --> 00:38:26,138
Yeah, Leticia.
723
00:38:26,138 --> 00:38:28,263
I can't remember the last name,
724
00:38:28,263 --> 00:38:29,764
but I remember Leticia.
725
00:38:30,889 --> 00:38:32,597
Pretty name.
726
00:38:58,055 --> 00:38:59,513
Don't blame our town.
727
00:38:59,513 --> 00:39:02,805
I'm told you need
suffering to make art.
728
00:39:02,805 --> 00:39:06,347
Yeah, but it's the artist
who's supposed to suffer.
729
00:39:06,347 --> 00:39:09,013
- Ah.
- You owe me a dollar.
730
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:11,805
Yes, I do.
731
00:39:11,805 --> 00:39:13,805
Did he put up a fight?
732
00:39:13,805 --> 00:39:18,138
Mmm, a bit, but not.
733
00:39:18,138 --> 00:39:21,847
Hey, how did he seem?
734
00:39:21,847 --> 00:39:24,805
How are things
with him and Laura?
735
00:39:24,805 --> 00:39:26,722
Seemed like he had a good
thing going down there,
736
00:39:26,722 --> 00:39:28,639
if that's what you mean.
737
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,305
Sweet girl, Laura.
738
00:39:31,305 --> 00:39:33,305
We used to joke that
she'd need a neck brace
739
00:39:33,305 --> 00:39:35,263
the way that she would
look up to him.
740
00:39:52,764 --> 00:39:55,597
- Hi.
- Hey.
741
00:39:55,597 --> 00:39:57,847
Two beers, please.
Whatever's your local best.
742
00:39:57,847 --> 00:39:59,971
She'll have a Polygamist Porter
743
00:39:59,971 --> 00:40:02,180
and I'll have
a Diet Coke, please.
744
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:04,680
- You guys have Advil?
- No. Sorry.
745
00:40:08,472 --> 00:40:10,680
- Thanks.
- Oh, sure.
746
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,347
And thank you for your message
about Cameron's old apartment.
747
00:40:13,347 --> 00:40:15,180
There's a guy
checking on the bills
748
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:18,764
and hoping to get something
about the old girlfriend...
749
00:40:18,764 --> 00:40:20,388
- Great.
- ...and maybe a forwarding address.
750
00:40:20,388 --> 00:40:23,180
- So, well done.
- Great.
751
00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:25,513
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
752
00:40:25,513 --> 00:40:28,055
And congratulations
to me, too, I guess.
753
00:40:28,055 --> 00:40:30,722
- For?
- Being smart enough to bring you here.
754
00:40:30,722 --> 00:40:34,388
You did more in 60 minutes than I
did in three days, so thank you.
755
00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:37,013
Aw, thanks.
Just trying to help.
756
00:40:39,889 --> 00:40:41,722
So, I, uh... I just have a few questions,
757
00:40:41,722 --> 00:40:43,597
mostly about the property.
758
00:40:43,597 --> 00:40:45,680
Oh, uh, one sec.
Um...
759
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,055
Sorry. Wife has a question
about a house thing.
760
00:40:49,055 --> 00:40:52,597
Sha, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
761
00:40:52,597 --> 00:40:54,138
Uh, sorry.
762
00:40:54,138 --> 00:40:55,555
We know the murder happened
763
00:40:55,555 --> 00:40:58,096
somewhere between
10:15 and 11:45.
764
00:40:58,096 --> 00:40:59,555
Do we know that for sure?
765
00:40:59,555 --> 00:41:02,430
Well, Olivia was seen
leaving the party at 10:04.
766
00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:05,347
And then a guy
overhears her and Eric
767
00:41:05,347 --> 00:41:07,263
having an argument
at the studio at 10:10.
768
00:41:07,263 --> 00:41:08,680
Then she calls
her neighbor up the hill,
769
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,305
and then her friend JC
at 10:16,
770
00:41:12,305 --> 00:41:14,180
the last anyone
ever heard from her.
771
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:16,305
Oh, sidebar...
772
00:41:16,305 --> 00:41:18,305
you know the people
up the hill, O'Connor?
773
00:41:18,305 --> 00:41:20,138
Do you know that
they own the Red Room?
774
00:41:21,722 --> 00:41:24,055
Oh, please,
please don't tell me
775
00:41:24,055 --> 00:41:25,764
you don't know
what the Red Room is.
776
00:41:25,764 --> 00:41:28,430
Is that like
a "50 Shades of Grey" thing?
777
00:41:31,096 --> 00:41:32,805
It's a private art collection.
778
00:41:32,805 --> 00:41:35,055
Individually,
some incredible pieces.
779
00:41:35,055 --> 00:41:37,096
Overall, no unifying aesthetic.
780
00:41:37,096 --> 00:41:40,764
They had a piece from... from it
on loan at the Denver Art Museum,
781
00:41:40,764 --> 00:41:44,597
this obscure French Impressionist,
Henri-Edmond Cross.
782
00:41:44,597 --> 00:41:46,263
When I was 12,
my mother and I sat
783
00:41:46,263 --> 00:41:47,764
in front of it
for literally six hours.
784
00:41:47,764 --> 00:41:49,430
Well, if you would've
told me they had,
785
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:53,096
like, a Brian Bolland or a Will
Eisner or something, then...
786
00:41:53,096 --> 00:41:54,513
Don't tell me you don't know
787
00:41:54,513 --> 00:41:56,472
who the father
of the graphic novel is.
788
00:41:56,472 --> 00:41:58,138
My interest in American art
789
00:41:58,138 --> 00:42:00,347
ended with Hopper's
"Intermedio" in 1963.
790
00:42:00,347 --> 00:42:02,722
Well, Eisner was before,
but, you know, whatever.
791
00:42:02,722 --> 00:42:04,555
Anyhow...
792
00:42:04,555 --> 00:42:06,305
- Her wounds.
- Her wounds.
793
00:42:06,305 --> 00:42:08,138
Yes, her wounds were...
794
00:42:08,138 --> 00:42:09,680
they were from
a variety of things,
795
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,305
but they believe
the death blow to be
796
00:42:11,305 --> 00:42:12,472
from multiple hammer strikes.
797
00:42:12,472 --> 00:42:14,971
And there was some flesh...
798
00:42:14,971 --> 00:42:17,221
piece of flesh they found
on the wall, a tiny speck,
799
00:42:17,221 --> 00:42:19,680
and in it were bug eggs.
800
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,096
Sorry. Uh, wife thing.
801
00:42:22,096 --> 00:42:24,722
- Bug eggs.
- Blowflies.
802
00:42:24,722 --> 00:42:27,639
Which puts it
no later than 11:45.
803
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:29,513
So I'm trying to figure out
804
00:42:29,513 --> 00:42:33,722
who was where between
10:15 and 11:45 p.m.
805
00:42:33,722 --> 00:42:36,472
Well, I can't really
be of any help on that
806
00:42:36,472 --> 00:42:38,680
because I was at a 10:20 movie
807
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,347
that was at Eastridge.
808
00:42:40,347 --> 00:42:44,013
So I left the property
about 9:45...
809
00:42:44,013 --> 00:42:47,805
or 9:46,
which I weirdly remember.
810
00:42:49,055 --> 00:42:52,013
Wow, a movie New Year's Eve.
811
00:42:52,013 --> 00:42:53,263
Crazy.
812
00:42:53,263 --> 00:42:55,639
I know, right?
And trust me, I, uh...
813
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,764
I wasn't one to avoid a party.
814
00:42:57,764 --> 00:43:00,513
It's just the truth is
815
00:43:00,513 --> 00:43:04,388
me and my then
girlfriend, now wife,
816
00:43:04,388 --> 00:43:06,305
had had a little fight.
817
00:43:06,305 --> 00:43:08,013
You weren't texting her enough?
818
00:43:08,013 --> 00:43:10,180
Sorry.
819
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:12,221
Let me turn this thing off.
820
00:43:14,472 --> 00:43:16,722
Uh, yeah, so.
821
00:43:18,263 --> 00:43:20,847
So, yeah, you said
that, you, uh,
822
00:43:20,847 --> 00:43:23,347
once saw Cameron
on the property
823
00:43:23,347 --> 00:43:24,971
out by the studio?
824
00:43:24,971 --> 00:43:28,555
It was actually by the, uh,
story trail, actually.
825
00:43:28,555 --> 00:43:30,555
Could you show me exactly?
826
00:43:33,096 --> 00:43:34,597
Sure.
827
00:43:34,597 --> 00:43:36,221
Look, it's simple.
828
00:43:36,221 --> 00:43:39,055
All you do is find a way
to get him alone.
829
00:43:39,055 --> 00:43:40,805
Then you casually bring it up
830
00:43:40,805 --> 00:43:43,055
and let him do the rest.
831
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,180
Should I wear a wire?
832
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:49,555
Wha... no.
833
00:43:49,555 --> 00:43:51,388
Why?
834
00:43:51,388 --> 00:43:54,555
- Wha... are you joking?
- Well, I don't know.
835
00:43:54,555 --> 00:43:58,180
- Whenever this happens on "The Wire"...
- "The Wire."
836
00:43:58,180 --> 00:44:01,013
It's called "The Wire,"
837
00:44:01,013 --> 00:44:04,597
so, yes, of course
they have wires.
838
00:44:06,347 --> 00:44:08,263
But this is Summit, man.
839
00:44:08,263 --> 00:44:10,180
We don't have wires.
840
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:14,055
We just have
one guy says something
841
00:44:14,055 --> 00:44:15,930
and another guy
tells a third guy.
842
00:44:15,930 --> 00:44:17,889
Okay.
843
00:44:17,889 --> 00:44:19,305
Hey!
844
00:44:19,305 --> 00:44:21,764
All you need to do is this.
845
00:44:21,764 --> 00:44:24,889
If he asks you
to stick to the story
846
00:44:24,889 --> 00:44:28,930
or to continue the lie
in any way,
847
00:44:28,930 --> 00:44:30,430
you just tell me.
848
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,430
Frank, what's the matter?
849
00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:41,096
We didn't even know
about the murder
850
00:44:41,096 --> 00:44:42,971
when we agreed to this.
851
00:44:42,971 --> 00:44:46,680
Ah. Dude,
you're not in trouble.
852
00:44:48,305 --> 00:44:49,472
Okay.
853
00:44:51,221 --> 00:44:53,513
You swear to God?
854
00:44:53,513 --> 00:44:56,096
- Yes.
- Is Joel?
855
00:44:56,096 --> 00:44:57,930
I don't know.
856
00:44:59,847 --> 00:45:00,889
Maybe not.
857
00:45:00,889 --> 00:45:02,847
Hopefully not.
Hey, hopefully not.
858
00:45:02,847 --> 00:45:05,639
Enough to get this girl to
bring him back up here.
859
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:07,805
Doesn't mean that he's in trouble.
860
00:45:07,805 --> 00:45:09,971
He's just... he's...
861
00:45:09,971 --> 00:45:12,305
he's of interest.
862
00:45:12,305 --> 00:45:15,180
How the fuck did she get him to
come back anyway?
863
00:45:17,971 --> 00:45:21,597
Oh, you gotta be
freaking kidding me!
864
00:45:21,597 --> 00:45:22,889
She brought him to the site.
865
00:45:22,889 --> 00:45:24,263
I gotta go.
866
00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:26,221
Hold on.
What do I do?
867
00:45:26,221 --> 00:45:30,263
What do you mean?
Stay, eat.
868
00:45:30,263 --> 00:45:32,639
But no acting, all right?
869
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:34,805
Don't act, just...
870
00:45:34,805 --> 00:45:36,971
just be normal, man, all right?
871
00:45:36,971 --> 00:45:38,930
So, her one big book...
872
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:40,263
well, I'm sure you read it.
873
00:45:40,263 --> 00:45:41,847
Everyone's read it.
874
00:45:41,847 --> 00:45:43,013
Mm-mm.
875
00:45:43,013 --> 00:45:44,889
No?
876
00:45:44,889 --> 00:45:47,138
"Whose Woods These Are."
877
00:45:47,138 --> 00:45:50,180
You read it one way, it's the
story of this poor hunter
878
00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:53,971
who tries to protect his family
from this evil monster bear.
879
00:45:53,971 --> 00:45:56,430
You turn it over and
read it the other way,
880
00:45:56,430 --> 00:45:59,555
it's the story of this poor bear
who tries to rescue his mom
881
00:45:59,555 --> 00:46:02,472
from the trap
of this evil monster hunter.
882
00:46:02,472 --> 00:46:05,639
- Hmm.
- Not a bad idea, right.
883
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:08,722
- Pick a direction.
- Wherever Cameron was.
884
00:46:08,722 --> 00:46:11,764
Well, it's a circle. They both
end up at the same place.
885
00:46:13,221 --> 00:46:15,388
Good choice.
886
00:46:15,388 --> 00:46:18,847
So anyway, she'd lead these "story
walks," she'd called them...
887
00:46:18,847 --> 00:46:22,680
Cub Scouts, field
trips, Girl Scouts.
888
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,263
It was like she'd never tire of telling
her one story.
889
00:46:26,263 --> 00:46:29,013
- Well, that's sweet.
- Well, I guess.
890
00:46:29,013 --> 00:46:32,597
Or she just couldn't
move on, maybe.
891
00:46:32,597 --> 00:46:35,388
Anyways, at night when I'd
just need to clear my head,
892
00:46:35,388 --> 00:46:37,889
I'd come out here and
I'd walk the property.
893
00:46:37,889 --> 00:46:40,764
So, on that night, I'm walking
along, and all of a sudden... boom...
894
00:46:40,764 --> 00:46:45,680
he and this other guy, like I just
caught them at something, right here.
895
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,472
Then they just disappeared
off into the dark.
896
00:46:48,472 --> 00:46:49,097
And so you...
897
00:46:49,123 --> 00:46:51,597
Went to the main house,
which is right over here,
898
00:46:51,597 --> 00:46:52,597
and I told your brother.
899
00:46:53,597 --> 00:46:54,971
Where'd you live?
900
00:46:57,013 --> 00:47:00,347
In the barn.
901
00:47:00,347 --> 00:47:02,347
I was there with
all the other strays.
902
00:47:02,347 --> 00:47:04,347
She was always
picking up strays...
903
00:47:04,347 --> 00:47:06,597
cats, dogs, people.
904
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:08,889
You lived in a barn?
905
00:47:08,889 --> 00:47:11,722
Well, I grew up on a farm.
906
00:47:11,722 --> 00:47:12,889
She had horses.
907
00:47:12,889 --> 00:47:14,889
Seemed like a good idea.
908
00:47:14,889 --> 00:47:18,930
And then the reality was I was
just a guy living in a barn.
909
00:47:18,930 --> 00:47:21,597
Not the idea you had when you
first got here, I assume.
910
00:47:21,597 --> 00:47:23,263
It's a long story.
911
00:47:23,263 --> 00:47:24,764
You ever meet her?
912
00:47:24,764 --> 00:47:28,805
Once, at Thanksgiving.
913
00:47:28,805 --> 00:47:30,263
Not so fun?
914
00:47:32,096 --> 00:47:34,096
It was an attempt.
915
00:47:34,096 --> 00:47:36,764
But I can tell
there is no chance
916
00:47:36,764 --> 00:47:39,138
this Dennis Klein guy
917
00:47:39,138 --> 00:47:40,263
is legit.
918
00:47:40,263 --> 00:47:41,555
One thing we know
919
00:47:41,555 --> 00:47:44,138
is what a scam artist
looks like.
920
00:47:44,138 --> 00:47:46,472
Am I right?
So, I'm like...
921
00:47:46,472 --> 00:47:48,764
He says, "If I'm
not absolutely right,
922
00:47:48,764 --> 00:47:50,430
you have to buy me
a drink."
923
00:47:50,430 --> 00:47:53,013
And whammo, to a tee.
924
00:47:54,805 --> 00:47:57,180
So, then he starts
telling me why he's here.
925
00:47:57,180 --> 00:47:59,055
Why was Eric here?
926
00:47:59,055 --> 00:48:01,347
Wanted to change his life, didn't
want to be the Grim Reaper...
927
00:48:01,347 --> 00:48:04,347
Actually, hon, I feel like I'm
monopolizing this whole thing.
928
00:48:04,347 --> 00:48:07,305
Petra, what do you do?
929
00:48:07,305 --> 00:48:08,971
- She is...
- I do many things.
930
00:48:08,971 --> 00:48:11,639
- ...major into the art world.
- Peripherally.
931
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:13,555
She restores art,
932
00:48:13,555 --> 00:48:14,847
she teaches, she writes books.
933
00:48:14,847 --> 00:48:16,430
About?
934
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:19,055
She got 600 pages
935
00:48:19,055 --> 00:48:22,013
into one about
the Italian Divisionists...
936
00:48:22,013 --> 00:48:23,889
see, I read
your e-mails...
937
00:48:23,889 --> 00:48:25,513
and then she's like,
"Wait a minute,
938
00:48:25,513 --> 00:48:27,347
maybe those critics
back at the"...
939
00:48:27,347 --> 00:48:28,847
- whatever they're called...
- Salons.
940
00:48:28,847 --> 00:48:30,180
"The ones who trashed
the Divisionists
941
00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:31,639
back in the day,
maybe they were right."
942
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:33,597
And she throws her book
away and starts again.
943
00:48:33,597 --> 00:48:35,639
Well, they were right, right?
944
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:38,639
I mean, when was that?
Like, 1894?
945
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,055
- '96.
- '96.
946
00:48:40,055 --> 00:48:41,847
Well, they were spot-on.
947
00:48:41,847 --> 00:48:45,388
Well, my beef was the
overt social overtones...
948
00:48:45,388 --> 00:48:46,680
Oh, I get your beef.
949
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,180
I'm totally with you.
I get it.
950
00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:49,639
I mean,
the powerful are corrupt.
951
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:51,889
Art is needed
by the disinherited.
952
00:48:51,889 --> 00:48:54,555
I mean, if I want a message,
send me a fucking telegram.
953
00:48:54,555 --> 00:48:57,555
Yeah, Olivia, 1943 just called.
954
00:48:57,555 --> 00:48:59,180
They'd like their once topical
955
00:48:59,180 --> 00:49:00,930
"send me a telegram"
reference back.
956
00:49:00,930 --> 00:49:03,388
Hello, JC.
957
00:49:03,388 --> 00:49:05,597
Hello, 2007 called,
958
00:49:05,597 --> 00:49:08,764
and they want their
fill-in-the-blank call joke back.
959
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:12,889
It's all overrated...
960
00:49:12,889 --> 00:49:14,722
the neos, the pointillists.
961
00:49:14,722 --> 00:49:17,971
Really? You don't think
understanding the science
962
00:49:17,971 --> 00:49:19,555
of how the eye
perceives light is...
963
00:49:19,555 --> 00:49:21,764
Has nothing to do with art.
964
00:49:21,764 --> 00:49:22,971
I mean, come on.
965
00:49:22,971 --> 00:49:26,221
Yeah, can we measure
human emotions
966
00:49:26,221 --> 00:49:28,597
through the chemical,
the synaptical,
967
00:49:28,597 --> 00:49:33,847
the sciency-wiency...
whatever... events?
968
00:49:33,847 --> 00:49:35,263
Sure.
969
00:49:35,263 --> 00:49:37,430
But at the core of it,
970
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:41,138
end of day,
you have to feel it.
971
00:49:41,138 --> 00:49:44,055
You can't think art...
972
00:49:44,055 --> 00:49:46,971
teach art, write about it.
973
00:49:46,971 --> 00:49:48,513
Um, didn't we just establish
974
00:49:48,513 --> 00:49:51,013
she thinks, teaches,
and writes about art?
975
00:49:53,347 --> 00:49:57,555
The most beautiful
piece of art I've ever seen
976
00:49:57,555 --> 00:50:01,430
was drawn by an 11-year-old
girl in 15 minutes.
977
00:50:01,430 --> 00:50:03,347
It... it's no technique.
978
00:50:03,347 --> 00:50:06,805
But it was raw, it was pure.
979
00:50:08,305 --> 00:50:10,347
Of course, it was about me,
980
00:50:10,347 --> 00:50:13,221
so, maybe I'm exaggerating
a little bit.
981
00:50:13,221 --> 00:50:15,930
Just eat your pie.
Sorry.72764
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