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You'll find that drivers
are a very happy lot of people
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because they appreciate life
far more than the average man does.
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A driver usually
gets killed on a Sunday
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and if he's a close friend of yours,
well,
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you think what a stupid sport this is
and you think seriously of giving it up.
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Then on Monday you think,
well, maybe he was just unlucky.
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Maybe I shouldn't give it up yet.
I'll give it up next year.
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Then on a Tuesday you start thinking
about, now, there's a race next Sunday,
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maybe I'll go.
Then on Wednesday you go to the race.
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Enzo Ferrari once said,
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"Win or die, you'll be immortal,"
talking to his drivers,
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and of course he's right
because every time I go to a Grand Prix
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those essences are part
of what makes the sport what it is.
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Without drivers like Mike Hawthorn
and Peter Collins,
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it would be all the poorer.
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The Ferrari name is
very important to Formula One today
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because it's a symbol
of the history of the sport
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that was once
the most dangerous sport on earth
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and still trades on those associations
of risk and glamour.
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We think these guys must be daredevils
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because Collins and Hawthorn
were daredevils.
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I look back on it now and I just
perceive them, the drivers of the time,
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as an entirely different breed.
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Controlling this powerful beast
under your rear,
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balancing this car on this tightrope,
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and taking the best line
through the corner,
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this gave you a sense of ecstasy.
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It was an era
of great glamour and great risk.
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These men went out
to drive these red cars
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not knowing
whether they would come back alive.
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Mike Hawthorn described
how we, as young men,
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were all willing
to jump into the cooking pot
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under which Mr Ferrari
kept the fire stoked.
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When it came to running drivers,
Ferrari's approach was
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the more pressure you put on them,
and the more unsettled they feel,
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the faster they will go.
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These guys were experiencing
the buzz of competition in cars,
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but they were subjecting themselves
willingly to all the attached dangers.
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There is something
about the motor racing world
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that, as far as we were concerned,
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when catastrophes would happen
we would kind of just carry on
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and not let it get us down.
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And I think that was the attitude
of a lot of people then.
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Fear is really a lack of
understanding of what is happening,
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like a child frightened of the dark
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'cause you don't understand
what's there.
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I am not normally afraid
of killing myself.
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I am frightened of being killed by
something over which I have no control.
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The great thing about
Mike Hawthorn and Peter Collins
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is that they would do what land speed
record-breaker John Cobb described.
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He said, "It's pretty much akin
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to seeing how far you can lean out of
the window before you finally fall out."
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And that's what those boys
with Ferrari did in the 1950s.
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They willingly leant out of the window
as far as they possibly could
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and a few of them, and in retrospect
far too many, fell out.
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At age ten you watched your first race.
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How did you experience that moment?
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I was shaking like a boy
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who is dreaming of having the chance,
one day,
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to take part in that competition.
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Ferrari had a difficult early life.
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His father died when he was quite young
and then his only brother also died,
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leaving him more or less alone
when he was still in his teens.
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But he was very keen on cars.
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So when he had
to make his own way in the world,
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cars and motor racing were the things
that attracted him most.
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What mattered the most in your life,
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your passion or the drive to succeed?
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Mostly, it was passion.
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What do you feel before the "Go"?
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Anxiety? Fear?
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Before the "Go", I feel...
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a mix of feelings,
all of which disappear
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as soon as the race starts.
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The hero of the event
was the brilliant young British driver,
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Mike Hawthorn, number four.
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Peter Collins in the Ferrari
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took and held the lead
from the beginning.
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Enzo Ferrari was a great talent scout
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and after the war, although there were
many good young Italian drivers,
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he'd spotted that there was
a bunch of English drivers
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who were starting
to do very well indeed.
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Hawthorn and Collins
had some years between them.
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Mike was the older
by two or three years.
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He really made his name in the little
Riley that was prepared by his father.
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Every time they went to a race meeting,
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here was a young man who expected
to come away with a trophy.
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Peter, when he started racing
with a 500cc Cooper
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that his father, Pat, bought for him,
he was immediately quick
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and he was only 17 years old.
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Hawthorn and Collins
met as rivals on the race track,
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but eventually when they both
found themselves in Modena
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driving for Ferrari,
they became enormous friends.
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Mike was a sports-jacketed
beer-drinking one of the lads.
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He and Peter Collins were like a pair
of rather irresponsible schoolboys.
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Tremendously fun-loving.
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Peter was a life enhancer.
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When he came into the room,
things got jollier, noisier
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and altogether more entertaining.
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When I first met Mike
he was tall, good-looking.
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I thought, "That's a lovely-looking
man." So I set my heart on him.
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He was a great character, a very flash
sort of a guy, who was a lot of fun.
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I think he used motor racing as
a stepping stone to enjoyment of life,
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whereas to me it was the life.
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You were either a Hawthorn fan or
a Moss fan. You couldn't really be both.
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Peter, in particular, I think,
was very much a Boyk Own character
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at what an exciting racing driver
should be.
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The girls loved him and I didn't see
too great an effort on his part
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to fight them off.
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Mr Ferrari had always had
a soft spot for the Brits.
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Mike went there and the old man
was pretty impressed
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because here was somebody
who was prepared to put it on the line
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and that was the sort of
thrusting, aggressive young driver
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that Mr Ferrari really rated.
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When I was with Mike he just
stood out amongst the others
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as being very beautiful.
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We were intoxicated by the atmosphere
of these wonderful, wild men.
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It was fun. It was like
a big family. Everybody knew everybody.
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But it was dangerous and wherever
you get danger, you get this thrill.
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Hawthorn did very well
in his first spell with Ferrari.
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He won a couple of races,
but then when his father was killed
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and he wanted to drive sports cars
for Jaguar, he went back to England,
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and I think Ferrari
was very disappointed by that.
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I'm sure he wanted to hang on to him.
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I think for most of the Grand Prix
drivers, Le Mans was a bit of a bore
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because it was a test of the car,
but not the driver.
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And I think that Mike and Fangio
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got involved in what had become
a Grand Prix more or less,
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at the beginning of the race,
so taking the boredom out of it.
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Drivers are requested
to get to the places assigned to them.
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Stand by.
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Five, four, three, two, one, zero!
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Lap after lap, Hawthorn
and Fangio, no more than yards apart,
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hold the crowd enthralled
with an exhibition of driving skill
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no words can adequately describe.
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This battle royal that's
been raging in those opening laps
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really reached a climax
that was just more cataclysmic
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than anybody could possibly imagine.
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Everything went normally in practice
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and I was given the job
of starting doing the first spell
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and I was actually out on the circuit
when this dreadful accident happened.
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Coming out of the White House bends
and up towards the pits,
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Mike saw the opportunity
to lap one more car
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before he pulled across to the right
and braked for his scheduled pit stop.
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That one last car was the Works'
Austin-Healey driven by Lance Macklin.
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Trouble was that race was the first time
the new rule had come in
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where you had to change the driver
every two hours.
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So Mike knew that another lap
would have taken him over the two hours.
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In braking hard, Lance Macklin
pulled out very sharply to the left
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to avoid the back of Mike's Jaguar.
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There's an almighty bang and Levegh's
car came sort of right over the top.
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His wheel came right past my left ear
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and I could feel the heat of his exhaust
as he went by he was so close.
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Levegh ran up the sloping tail
of the Austin-Healey,
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flew best part of 100 yards
completely airborne
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and then crashed belly-first
on to the top edge of the safety bank
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in front of him.
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Approaching the pits
I saw a blue flag out, so I eased off
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and of course
I came across this absolute chaos.
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When Levegh's Mercedes
hit the top edge of the bank
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the chassis sheared
and the entire front end assembly
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was hurled through the crowd
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and it went through the crowd
like a torpedo.
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And it killed over 80 of them
and it injured over 100 more.
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There were even children
in the front row
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who'd been put there for the best view
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and they were right in the firing line
of the wreckage that tore through them.
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What most people didn't realize
was that it was on such a grand scale
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and why the organizers
had decided to continue the race
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was to enable them to get the emergency
vehicles away from the circuit.
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I hadn't seen anything
of the accident as such
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because where I ended up
was about 200 or 300 yards
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from where the accident was.
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I could see the car burning
on the side of the track,
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but at least I thought
it didn't go in the crowd.
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I went into the Austin-Healey pit
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and Donald Healey told me
that Mike had come in
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and said to Lance,
"Can you ever forgive me?"
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He literally sort of staggered
across to where we were,
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tears pouring down his face, came up
to me, put his arm over my shoulder,
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and said, "I've killed all these people.
I'll never race again," and so on.
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A few hours later
he was back in the car driving again.
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Hawthorn and Bueb drove a brilliant
remaining part of the race to win.
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And contemporary movie
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shows Mike very conflicted
in his facial expressions
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about whether
to enjoy this victory or not.
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But when he did break into a grin,
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stills photographers got that photograph
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and photographs of a beaming Mike
Hawthorn, having just won at Le Mans,
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after the colossal tragedy
that had marred the race,
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were used by the press
to vilify Mike around the world.
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It did affect him terribly.
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He was desperately upset,
but it wasn't actually his fault.
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I mean, he was exonerated
and he shouldn't have to feel like that.
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He had this sort of air
of devil-may-care, you know, attitude,
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but actually he did care,
he cared an awful lot.
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Behind success
there is a terrible truth.
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Italians are prepared
to forgive anything and anyone.
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Thieves, murderers.
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All sorts of criminals.
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Except for success. They won't
forgive anyone for being successful.
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Ferrari in Italy was
a towering figure, even at the time.
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He was the single most significant
automotive industry figure
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of the 20th century.
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He was a survivor. He was a chameleon.
Such a manipulator of men.
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He regarded it as a sport
in its own right, I think.
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The Scuderia was a stable effectively
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in which Ferrari would pick
the best talent that he could find.
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The drivers were
the public face of the Scuderia
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and he would take the cream
of the talent that was available to him.
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Eugenio Castellotti
came from a little town called Lodi.
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He got into racing
because it was a big macho deal.
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It was what the king of the kids
would do. "Hey, look at me."
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And he did have a talent.
He had a shining talent, in fact.
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Musso was from Rome.
He was an Elio di Angelis of the time,
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whereas Castellotti was
a street fighter from northern Italy.
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Luigi Musso was a charismatic Italian
racing driver of the first order.
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Let's not mince words here.
The guy was very good.
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I think while Castellotti
and Musso were at Ferrari together
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there was a certain amount
of shared responsibility, if you like.
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You've got two drivers there
who brought Italy into Grand Prix racing
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in a way that is unimaginable now
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because the whole country was behind
them and both of them gave it 100%.
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Fon de Portago was a nobleman
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and a sportsman
of every possible variety
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and he was
a very attractive personality.
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He was a real playboy,
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but he was a playboy, you know,
who didn't mind getting his hands dirty.
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He is a man devoted to sport,
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whether it be skiing,
bobsleighing, waterskiing,
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swimming, fishing, hunting,
whatever it might be.
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He was in some ways
the sort of most natural Ferrari driver
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of the whole of the 1950s.
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If you had to design a Ferrari driver,
it would have been Fon de Portago.
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And he had the girlfriends
to go with it too.
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The Scuderia was led
by Juan Manuel Fangio
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and Castellotti apparently
would hang on Fangio's every word.
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Fangio to me is the best driver
in the world bar none.
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He was a great man. He was a man
that whatever he could do once,
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he could continue to do.
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And it was a beautiful balance
and a rhythm of a man and a vehicle.
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Enzo Ferrari was once asked
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when a car crosses the line
to take the checkered flag,
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how much of it is car,
how much of it is driver?
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And he said, "60% car, 40% driver."
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The sad thing was that Ferrari
didn't spend enough time
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learning how to deal with the drivers
individual to individual.
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Now every driver
has a different style of his own.
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Hawthorn has an expression of a man
who is fighting on his face.
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Peter Collins
is always making faces at the crowd,
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not deliberately,
but I have yet to see a picture of Peter
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in which he isn't making
some kind of a face.
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Peter Collins
had been driving for BRM
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and then he was offered
a drive with Ferrari,
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which would have been fantastic.
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What an amazing opportunity.
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Ferrari set himself up
as the spider
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in the middle of this extraordinary web
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and he ensured
that everybody had to come to him.
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He never went to them.
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There is a story that Peter
Collins, when he went there to sign up,
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he thought, "Oh, you know,
this is gonna be a big deal, you know."
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And, in fact, Peter
was kept waiting and waiting
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and waiting, and he was on the point
of giving it all up as a bad job
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when ultimately Mr Ferrari
came sailing in
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and everything was sweetness and light.
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It was a sparkling honeymoon
for Peter Collins at Ferrari.
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He won in Formula One.
He won in other categories.
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Ferrari immediately
recognized his versatility
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and overnight, almost,
Peter Collins became a star,
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not only in Italy at Ferrari,
but also on the world racing stage.
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Victory goes
to Peter Collins and Mike Hawthorn,
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with Moss second and Fangio third.
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So Peter Collins
wins his first Grand Prix for Ferrari.
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Peter Collins joins
that exclusive band of British drivers
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to have won a Grande Epreuve.
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There's no doubt that Peter Collins
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was one of the drivers
that Enzo Ferrari loved.
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He felt a real warmth to him,
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which he didn't feel
towards all his drivers by any means.
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Peter Collins became very friendly
and very close with Dino,
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Mr Ferrari's sadly terminally ill son.
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My husband did a wonderful job,
in a way,
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of helping to communicate
between the dying son and Enzo.
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Ferrari was very moved by that,
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that Collins should show
such concern for his son.
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And Dino's death, of course, was a...
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It was a shattering blow
to him and to his wife
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and I think
that brought him closer to Collins.
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By the end of the '56 season,
Collins has won the Belgian Grand Prix,
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he's won the French Grand Prix.
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He's in with a shout
of becoming the first British driver
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ever to win
the FIA Drivers' World Championship.
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There were five Lancia Ferraris
in the race.
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There was Fangio, Portago and Collins,
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but also Castellotti and Musso
had a fierce, fierce rivalry.
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Actually, my guess, as soon
as the Italian Grand Prix started,
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Castellotti and also Luigi Musso,
who went for it, you know,
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as if the race was starting
on the last lap.
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Fangio's car broke down
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and in those days you could share a car
with another driver
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and get half the points.
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Musso came in and it was
suggested to him he should get out
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and give the car to Fangio, and Musso
had no interest in that at all.
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That was when Collins, of course,
did his famous selfless act.
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Collins is poised
to win the World Championship.
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He comes into the pits
for his last pit stop,
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beckoned to Fangio and said,
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"You take my car
and I'll give up my chance
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for you to win
yet another World Championship."
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I can't actually think
of another driver,
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apart from Peter, to do that,
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because all Peter had to do
was keep going
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and he was the man who would take it.
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He respected the superiority
of Fangio as a driver
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and I think he felt it would be
unfair of him not to provide the car.
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It was a very chivalrous
and respectful gesture,
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which Enzo Ferrari appreciated a lot.
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Talking to the press afterwards,
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Peter apparently said,
"I'm young. I'll get another chance."
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I was in a play
at Coconut Grove Playhouse in Florida
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and Peter was on his way from Argentina
back to England.
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The West Indies, Cuba,
all of Latin America,
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are just beyond the horizon
when you make Miami your headquarters.
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Stirling Moss actually
told Peter that I was in Florida
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and so if he was going through there,
why not say hello?
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So, he gave me a ring
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and Monday night after the play
we got together, and that was it.
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Wednesday he asked me to marry him.
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Friday my father came down from New York
to stop this whole nonsense.
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He was with the United Nations,
a very dignified human being.
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He was a little unhappy,
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thinking that his daughter
was going to marry a racing driver
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that she didn't even know.
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It worked out very beautifully.
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When does a star begin to decline?
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The day they put personal interests
before the sport itself.
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Enzo Ferrari didn't like his drivers
getting tied down
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because he didn't like the idea
that they had something else to live for
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besides driving his racing cars,
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that that would
take the edge off their speed.
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I think he loved the cars
more than the drivers
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because the cars were loyal to him
and the drivers very often weren't.
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Mr Ferrari always maintained
that his team number one
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would be the driver
who performed best last Sunday,
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which tended to keep them on their toes.
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By setting them to some extent
in competition with each other,
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by very often having five drivers
for four cars,
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it would ensure that they were
performing at their maximum
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the whole time for him.
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There would have been
quite a lot of culture shock
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for Mike Hawthorn and Peter Collins
going into the Scuderia Ferrari
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where they would have been surrounded
by very competitive playboy drivers.
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I had dinner with Ferrari
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and we were talking about racing,
as we usually do,
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and all of a sudden he said,
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"But you know the drivers
will always go to the factory
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which produces the fastest car."
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And I was just about to protest
my loyalty to Ferrari when I realized
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that I would go somewhere else
if they produced a faster car.
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There is no loyalty to a factory.
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There was a colored,
embittered relationship
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between Fangio and Mr Ferrari,
and so when Fangio left Ferrari
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at the end of that
World Championship-winning season,
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to go to the rival Maserati team,
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the only person surprised
was Mr Ferrari.
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When Mike Hawthorn rejoined
the Ferrari team at the start of 1957,
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they had Collins, Musso,
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the Spanish Marquis Fon de Portago
and they had Castellotti.
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It was an incredibly strong team.
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One thing I've always loved
about Castellotti
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was how neat and precise he was
in his everyday life,
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and that's always a good sign, I think,
to how you are in a racing car.
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And you look at the way
he used to pack his racing suitcase
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00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:29,365
with all his race kit, everything was
immaculate and perfectly organized,
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00:32:29,489 --> 00:32:32,493
and I think that showed
another side to Castellotti.
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00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:35,621
He wasn't just a crazy Italian.
This guy was good.
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00:32:36,413 --> 00:32:38,256
Castellotti started racing,
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00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:41,217
effectively, with a Ferrari sports car
that his mother bought him.
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00:32:41,334 --> 00:32:45,714
He grew up
as a gilded child, really.
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00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,764
He's another immature fellow
that has a lot of money,
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00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:53,309
and decided he was going to do what most
wealthy Italians wish they could do
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00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:55,307
and that's be a real racing driver,
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00:32:55,432 --> 00:32:57,730
and he's pretty good,
but he's not all that good.
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00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,693
You said drivers
can be divided into two categories:
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the pros and the ambitious,
i.e. the amateurs.
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00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:07,319
No doubt.
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00:33:07,444 --> 00:33:09,412
You said it's not true
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00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:11,497
that Italians race slower
than foreigners.
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00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,368
But the winners
are almost always foreigners.
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00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:19,373
Obviously Italians lack
the technical resources
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00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:22,171
available to foreigners.
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00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:29,595
Everybody in Italy was mad about racing.
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00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:32,344
Even if there was no television,
but there was a radio,
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they were following what was happening.
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00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:40,736
I think being an Italian
driving in Italy
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and obviously having to prove yourself
constantly against drivers
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00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:48,030
like Collins, Hawthorn and Moss
was very, very difficult.
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00:33:52,656 --> 00:33:58,379
In March 1957, Castellotti was
called to do some testing for Ferrari
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at the Modena test track.
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00:34:01,498 --> 00:34:03,341
I mean, it sounds ludicrous, in a way,
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00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:08,680
that Modena was the test track
that both Ferrari and Maserati used
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00:34:08,797 --> 00:34:11,095
and why it should have been
so desperately important
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00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:14,937
who actually held the, you know, the
unofficial lap record at any given time
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00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:17,897
is quite difficult to fathom now.
406
00:34:19,099 --> 00:34:21,272
But, for whatever reason,
it was very important
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00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:22,815
and particularly to Enzo Ferrari.
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00:34:23,937 --> 00:34:27,237
Maserati had just broken
the lap record there.
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00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:29,200
Mr Ferrari wasn't happy with that.
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00:34:29,317 --> 00:34:32,412
He wanted Ferrari
to hold the lap record there.
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00:34:32,529 --> 00:34:36,409
And either spoken or tacitly,
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00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:40,128
Castellotti was expected
to go out and break the lap record
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00:34:40,245 --> 00:34:42,168
in the developing new car.
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00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:45,417
Castellotti was summoned
back from Florence
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00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:48,216
and it wasn't a request,
it was a demand.
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And much against his will,
he came back to Milan
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00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:55,306
and went out to Modena,
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00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:58,931
got in the car late afternoon
and was killed.
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00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:07,239
He either suffered a brake failure
or the throttle stuck open
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00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:11,030
and the Ferrari rode over the curbs,
421
00:35:11,151 --> 00:35:14,872
flew into the air and began to roll
422
00:35:14,988 --> 00:35:19,164
and it went into
a little concrete-built grandstand
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00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:22,788
and it ended up in the top row
at the back of the grandstand.
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00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:28,794
And Castellotti, very sadly,
had been thrown out of the car
425
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:31,637
and he was rushed to hospital
and it was too late.
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00:35:31,755 --> 00:35:33,348
There was no saving him.
427
00:35:39,846 --> 00:35:43,601
The thing that troubles us
is when somebody gets killed
428
00:35:43,725 --> 00:35:47,775
because the steering arm broke
or because the wheel came off
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00:35:47,896 --> 00:35:51,696
and that worries us a lot because then
you think if it happened on that car
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00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:55,036
and I have to drive the same type
of car, it could very well happen to me.
431
00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:16,429
I don't think Ferrari really
was capable of having relationships.
432
00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:18,927
I think he was a guy
that was just driven
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00:36:19,052 --> 00:36:23,023
to do what he had
to do in motor racing,
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00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:26,313
and that was build cars
that were capable of winning
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00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,438
and to find drivers
that were capable of driving them
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00:36:29,562 --> 00:36:31,564
and what happened happened.
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00:36:33,066 --> 00:36:36,741
Collins was in the office
with Enzo Ferrari when the phone rang.
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00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:41,082
It was with the news
that Castellotti had been killed.
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00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:45,500
The old man said,
"Oh, non, non, Castellotti morto."
440
00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:48,043
And then, "E la macchina?"
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00:36:48,164 --> 00:36:50,258
"And how's the car?"
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00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:55,464
Not everyone finds you agreeable.
443
00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:59,058
You're often accused of being
a dictator. What do you think?
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00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:01,769
If by dictator,
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00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:05,311
you mean demanding from others,
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00:37:05,431 --> 00:37:08,981
the utmost commitment to their job,
447
00:37:09,102 --> 00:37:11,275
they definitely have a point.
448
00:37:12,689 --> 00:37:17,911
Ferrari was a man I admired in some ways
and thought he was appalling in others.
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00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:21,372
I think success
was important to Ferrari.
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00:37:21,489 --> 00:37:24,709
But success because it showed that
he was one better than the other guy.
451
00:37:25,326 --> 00:37:28,205
Ultimately, it was about Ferrari
452
00:37:28,329 --> 00:37:31,754
and Ferrari had been around now,
in some form or another,
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00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:34,799
since the turn of the century almost.
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00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:39,262
And the reason Ferrari is
the biggest brand in the world today,
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00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:42,101
bigger than Formula One,
in motor racing terms,
456
00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:44,971
and the reason people think
about Ferrari the way they do
457
00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:49,067
is because it ultimately is
about the car and not the driver.
458
00:37:51,686 --> 00:37:56,408
Mr Ferrari became
absolutely well aware very early on
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00:37:56,524 --> 00:38:00,154
that his favored sport was a killer.
460
00:38:02,071 --> 00:38:06,872
If you visit
the cemetery as often as I do,
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00:38:06,993 --> 00:38:12,545
you'll find yourself staring
into the majestic face of death.
462
00:38:12,665 --> 00:38:16,340
What can you think in that moment?
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00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:20,807
"All those worries,
all those issues, all those fights
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00:38:20,924 --> 00:38:22,267
to just end up here."
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00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:29,399
Well, what kind of guy is Ferrari?
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00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:31,734
Well, Ferrari is a dictator.
467
00:38:31,851 --> 00:38:34,354
If he doesn't like you,
he won't sell you a car.
468
00:38:34,479 --> 00:38:37,323
But as far as I'm concerned,
he's a wonderful guy.
469
00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:44,948
Why do you race?
470
00:38:45,073 --> 00:38:47,417
Because I want
to be champion of the world.
471
00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:52,627
Life to me is a wonderful thing
and even if I live to be 100,
472
00:38:52,747 --> 00:38:56,752
I still won't be able to do
a 20th of all the things I want to do
473
00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:59,095
and read all the books I want to read.
474
00:38:59,212 --> 00:39:02,261
And I plan to get the most out of it,
but I have no time to lose.
475
00:39:06,219 --> 00:39:07,812
Fon Portago I knew quite well.
476
00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:11,315
Because I saw him...
I was living in France at the time
477
00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:14,606
and he was one of the people
one saw regularly in Paris.
478
00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:19,153
He could do anything, Portago.
He liked doing dangerous things.
479
00:39:22,402 --> 00:39:25,076
Everybody,
no matter how wealthy they are,
480
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:28,496
who drives
aims to become a professional driver.
481
00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:30,618
All you must have
is respect for the car.
482
00:39:30,743 --> 00:39:33,747
I have enormous respect
for the Grand Prix Ferrari.
483
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:38,585
And I realize that if I treat it badly,
it can very easily kill me.
484
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:43,264
Well, every driver believes
it can never happen to him.
485
00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,429
I know it won't happen to me.
486
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:47,552
Inside me, I know it won't happen to me.
487
00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:05,617
The Mille Miglia was a 1,000-mile race
around Italy on normal roads
488
00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:09,742
with millions of spectators
lining the roads
489
00:40:09,866 --> 00:40:12,540
and it was incredibly dangerous.
490
00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:22,967
Fon de Portage was driving a Ferrari
that was one of the most powerful cars
491
00:40:23,087 --> 00:40:26,307
in the race, so he would
have been expected to do well.
492
00:40:27,091 --> 00:40:30,812
It was actually a race he detested
and he didn't want to do that year,
493
00:40:30,928 --> 00:40:32,805
but Ferrari insisted.
494
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:42,111
He was embroiled at that time
in a sort of mad, passionate affair
495
00:40:42,231 --> 00:40:45,360
with this American actress,
Linda Christian,
496
00:40:45,485 --> 00:40:47,954
and at one of the control points
on the race,
497
00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:52,247
Portago came in, took on fuel
and he had his card stamped.
498
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:56,705
One of the mechanics noticed
the rear bodywork was damaged
499
00:40:56,829 --> 00:41:01,585
and was actually folded over
and it was very, very close to the tire.
500
00:41:01,709 --> 00:41:03,382
They wanted to change the tire
501
00:41:03,503 --> 00:41:06,427
and Portago, you know, by all accounts,
just waved them away.
502
00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:08,720
"No, no, no.
We haven't got time for all that."
503
00:41:08,841 --> 00:41:10,593
Then saw Linda Christian.
504
00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:13,597
She came over
and there was this passionate kiss,
505
00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:17,726
having said there's no time to try
and get the bodywork away from the tire.
506
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:19,648
Then he got on his way again.
507
00:41:33,241 --> 00:41:37,587
In the closing stages of the race,
when at a place called Guidizzolo,
508
00:41:37,703 --> 00:41:41,628
almost within sight
and earshot of the finish,
509
00:41:41,749 --> 00:41:44,502
a tire burst on the car.
510
00:41:52,468 --> 00:41:54,562
The car left the road, somersaulted,
511
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,807
hit the bank and disintegrated.
512
00:41:56,931 --> 00:42:02,279
De Portage was killed. Edmund Nelson,
his navigator, was also killed.
513
00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:04,318
Nine spectators were killed.
514
00:42:04,438 --> 00:42:08,193
Five of them were children,
which made it particularly shocking.
515
00:42:10,987 --> 00:42:12,989
He died in the pursuit of a career
516
00:42:13,114 --> 00:42:15,287
to which he had given
all his time and energy
517
00:42:15,408 --> 00:42:18,582
and that great competitive spirit,
which made him what he was.
518
00:42:18,703 --> 00:42:20,876
That he should be killed
on the threshold
519
00:42:20,997 --> 00:42:25,252
of a magnificent racing career
is a great loss to racing
520
00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:28,926
and to the world of people who still
retain an ounce of romance in them.
521
00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:33,893
By the very nature of their lives,
people like Portage do not die in bed.
522
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:37,014
Their flags remain flying
on the many competitive fields
523
00:42:37,138 --> 00:42:40,813
where they enjoyed their
greatest triumphs to the very end.
524
00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:54,414
It was not uncommon in
the 1950s for spectators to be killed,
525
00:42:54,530 --> 00:42:59,661
but this one, it was the five children
that made the difference.
526
00:42:59,785 --> 00:43:03,915
For Enzo Ferrari, this was a moment
when he had to dig very, very deep.
527
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,044
The Mille Miglia was never run again.
That was one thing.
528
00:43:07,168 --> 00:43:09,591
But beyond that
there was a manslaughter charge.
529
00:43:10,671 --> 00:43:15,142
There was an air of revulsion
and the Vatican was horrified.
530
00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:20,060
Do you feel
any responsibility or a moral burden
531
00:43:20,181 --> 00:43:22,354
when these tragedies happen?
532
00:43:22,475 --> 00:43:25,775
I question myself profoundly.
533
00:43:25,895 --> 00:43:28,273
How do you feel
when one of yours dies?
534
00:43:28,397 --> 00:43:30,491
Do you feel like quitting?
535
00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:33,828
I feel many things.
Too many things.
536
00:43:33,945 --> 00:43:36,039
For instance,
537
00:43:36,155 --> 00:43:39,500
the frightening fragility
of the human existence.
538
00:43:45,831 --> 00:43:49,051
Mike Hawthorn
had a congenital kidney problem.
539
00:43:49,168 --> 00:43:55,972
He would have days where he would
be very pale and sweaty and weak
540
00:43:56,092 --> 00:43:57,435
and it showed.
541
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,063
If he had gone public,
542
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:04,650
he risked not getting a competition
license on medical grounds.
543
00:44:05,851 --> 00:44:09,776
That was brushed under the carpet
somewhat carefully
544
00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:14,277
by saying, "I have a chronic condition
which flares up every now and then."
545
00:44:16,904 --> 00:44:19,623
From what I've been told
he used to get angry with himself
546
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:24,120
if he was having a weak day
or just feeling lousy.
547
00:44:24,245 --> 00:44:26,293
But I think in terms of people
who knew about it,
548
00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:28,917
there were very, very few people.
549
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:32,136
He refused to let the government know
550
00:44:32,253 --> 00:44:34,927
because there were questions
in the Houses of Parliament
551
00:44:35,047 --> 00:44:39,518
why Mike Hawthorn wasn't going into
the army, doing his national service.
552
00:44:39,635 --> 00:44:42,809
And he wouldn't let his doctors
tell them why.
553
00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:47,940
He never mentioned his disability,
but he certainly suffered from that
554
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:52,657
and I think that some days that,
you know, he felt it more than others.
555
00:45:40,279 --> 00:45:45,251
It was very exciting
to be around Monaco.
556
00:45:45,368 --> 00:45:47,871
We bought that boat
557
00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:52,501
and decided to make that our home.
558
00:45:54,627 --> 00:45:59,508
Peter had a nice accident
when his car went into the harbor.
559
00:46:00,174 --> 00:46:03,929
Yeah, that was funny.
I think he did it twice.
560
00:46:04,053 --> 00:46:07,102
Someone said, "You know, your husband
just went into the harbor."
561
00:46:07,223 --> 00:46:10,227
I said, "It's alright.
He did that yesterday. He knows how."
562
00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:19,736
Peter and Mike
had a lot of laughs together,
563
00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:24,832
so when I came in on the scene,
the three of us clicked right away.
564
00:46:24,949 --> 00:46:28,044
We just had such a good, funny time.
565
00:46:29,495 --> 00:46:33,250
Peter was, I think, generally regarded
566
00:46:33,374 --> 00:46:36,924
as a nicer person than Mike.
567
00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:42,846
Mike could be terribly rude,
terribly abrupt.
568
00:46:43,884 --> 00:46:46,728
But with people he liked
and got on with...
569
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:50,683
he was a great, great friend.
570
00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:55,275
"Mon ami mate" was like a comic strip.
571
00:46:55,396 --> 00:46:59,492
These two characters
go on a trip to Mars.
572
00:47:00,568 --> 00:47:02,366
They look at this Martian,
573
00:47:02,486 --> 00:47:07,162
and to be friendly and saying hello,
they said, "Hello, mon ami mate."
574
00:47:08,242 --> 00:47:10,586
It amused Peter and Mike so much
575
00:47:10,703 --> 00:47:14,549
that they just kept
calling each other "mon ami mate."
576
00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:24,555
It was all very nice and "mon ami mate"
and all that sort of thing,
577
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:29,226
but I don't think it was
in the best interests of Ferrari.
578
00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:35,065
Formula One team owners
are pretty incapable of managing teams
579
00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:39,111
when you've got two very fast
racing drivers alongside one another,
580
00:47:39,231 --> 00:47:41,233
and we've seen it
through the history of the sport.
581
00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:44,908
Peter Collins and Mike Hawthorn
were basically coming as a package,
582
00:47:45,029 --> 00:47:50,001
and, for the first time, Enzo Ferrari
was faced with this weird situation
583
00:47:50,117 --> 00:47:51,744
where if he said something to Peter,
584
00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:54,372
it actually affected Mike Hawthorn
and vice versa.
585
00:47:56,081 --> 00:47:58,709
It sometimes detracted
from their racing, you know,
586
00:47:58,834 --> 00:48:01,508
and they used to be mucking about,
you know, changing places,
587
00:48:01,629 --> 00:48:04,178
instead of concentrating 100%,
you know.
588
00:48:04,298 --> 00:48:07,393
And I think the sense of competition
was sort of slightly dulled
589
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:11,686
between Mike and Peter
to their, to their detriment.
590
00:48:14,475 --> 00:48:16,443
I mean, Roy Salvadori said to me once,
591
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,655
"God, if I'd been Enzo Ferrari,
I'd have fired those two."
592
00:48:19,772 --> 00:48:22,195
They were such close friends.
593
00:48:22,316 --> 00:48:25,069
They were almost happier
when the other won.
594
00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:11,559
Enzo always loved it
when his drivers spurred each other on.
595
00:50:12,468 --> 00:50:16,473
You know, and if there were casualties,
well, you know, it happens.
596
00:50:18,265 --> 00:50:22,736
It's been suggested that Hawthorn
and Collins ganged up on Luigi Musso,
597
00:50:22,853 --> 00:50:27,279
who was really the last
of the great Italian drivers left.
598
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:32,409
He would write to me about
the badgering he had to put up with
599
00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:34,497
from these two people.
600
00:50:34,615 --> 00:50:39,212
Because strength comes in numbers
and they were united against Luigi.
601
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:43,174
I think you must always wonder,
sort of, "What are they saying?"
602
00:50:43,290 --> 00:50:46,885
"I don't understand what they're
saying." That can't have been easy.
603
00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:57,013
He forged this relationship
with Fiamma,
604
00:50:57,137 --> 00:51:00,266
who was a beautiful girl,
she really was.
605
00:51:02,726 --> 00:51:05,445
Never again
in my life was I so happy
606
00:51:05,562 --> 00:51:07,485
and in love as I was with him.
607
00:51:10,401 --> 00:51:12,654
It was an incredible and amazing thing.
608
00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:21,962
He was really carrying
the weight of Italy on his shoulders
609
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,549
and driving way beyond his means.
610
00:51:31,296 --> 00:51:34,675
Apart from being
the only Italian driver of consequence
611
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,679
in Formula One
and the only Italian at Ferrari,
612
00:51:37,803 --> 00:51:41,979
he also, by all accounts,
was not a very good businessman.
613
00:51:42,975 --> 00:51:48,732
He'd entered into a business deal
to import American cars into Italy.
614
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:54,571
His backers got more and more concerned
about their investment.
615
00:51:54,695 --> 00:51:57,915
There were also suggestions
that he'd run up some gambling debts.
616
00:51:58,741 --> 00:52:01,961
He certainly was under
some financial stress at the time.
617
00:52:12,463 --> 00:52:14,261
The pressure had been building.
618
00:52:14,381 --> 00:52:17,100
The debts that Musso
was finding himself in.
619
00:52:17,217 --> 00:52:19,845
The enormous rewards
that you could receive
620
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:22,473
if you won
the French Grand Prix at Reims.
621
00:52:22,598 --> 00:52:25,226
That was a race for Musso to win,
no question about it.
622
00:52:52,711 --> 00:52:55,555
On three or four occasions
in the opening laps,
623
00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:57,891
trying to match Hawthorn's pace
624
00:52:58,008 --> 00:53:02,889
through the very fast right-hand curve
immediately after the pits,
625
00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:06,734
he put two wheels on the verge and
there'd be a puff of dust and stones
626
00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:09,228
and some of the photographers
were saying, you know,
627
00:53:09,353 --> 00:53:11,697
"Hey, he's on the ragged edge."
628
00:53:12,856 --> 00:53:16,326
Because he got it slightly
wrong, he was slightly off line,
629
00:53:16,443 --> 00:53:19,117
the left rear would have caught
the marbles and then he went off
630
00:53:19,238 --> 00:53:22,458
and the car somersaulted
and threw him out.
631
00:53:27,871 --> 00:53:30,340
On the seventh lap
Luigi didn't come around.
632
00:53:30,457 --> 00:53:35,304
I thought his car might have
broken down or he might have stopped.
633
00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:40,221
Nobody made a signal.
And when there is no signal, it's bad.
634
00:53:42,678 --> 00:53:48,481
He was thrown out and suffered
a head injury which took his life.
635
00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:56,909
I was young
and my entire world collapsed.
636
00:53:58,026 --> 00:54:01,496
I ran to the window
to throw myself out.
637
00:54:06,952 --> 00:54:11,583
When a fatal event occurs,
638
00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:14,586
it is never down to a single cause.
639
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:18,340
It's different things
happening simultaneously,
640
00:54:18,463 --> 00:54:21,592
leading to the sacrifice of a life.
641
00:54:25,429 --> 00:54:29,229
When Luigi Musso died,
Ferrari was upset,
642
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:34,731
but one way he showed his regret
was to console Musso's girlfriend.
643
00:54:36,231 --> 00:54:38,825
He set her up
in a flower shop in Florence
644
00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:43,243
and spent quite a lot of time with her
and they had quite a long relationship.
645
00:54:48,535 --> 00:54:52,836
Well, the thing is a driver should
have confidence in his own ability,
646
00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:57,507
but not to be so naive as to think,
"It can't happen to me."
647
00:54:57,628 --> 00:55:00,177
If you come round a corner
and you find oil on the circuit,
648
00:55:00,297 --> 00:55:01,640
you can still spin and go off,
649
00:55:01,757 --> 00:55:05,261
so you recognize
that that was beyond your capabilities
650
00:55:05,385 --> 00:55:08,138
and you either accepted that
or you didn't go motor racing.
651
00:55:08,263 --> 00:55:10,140
Nobody's making you motor race.
652
00:55:13,101 --> 00:55:17,151
It was terrible
when you heard somebody was killed,
653
00:55:17,272 --> 00:55:20,993
but, after all,
it was his decision to race.
654
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:26,787
They were all aware in those days
that it was very dangerous
655
00:55:26,907 --> 00:55:29,330
and they still were doing it.
656
00:55:32,204 --> 00:55:35,378
If you ran off the road and there
was a chance of the car overturning,
657
00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:37,172
it was better to be thrown out
658
00:55:37,292 --> 00:55:40,546
than to be trapped
in the cockpit by seatbelts
659
00:55:40,671 --> 00:55:45,893
and crushed underneath it when it landed
or, worse, burned to death by the fire
660
00:55:46,009 --> 00:55:49,730
that would almost inevitably follow
a fuel-tank burst.
661
00:55:53,684 --> 00:55:57,780
One time Peter almost said something,
and I said, "Don't."
662
00:55:57,896 --> 00:56:01,241
We never discussed
the dangers of motor racing
663
00:56:01,358 --> 00:56:04,988
and I think if we had,
it would have compounded the fear.
664
00:56:05,112 --> 00:56:09,242
And the fear you stuff away.
You don't want to bring that up.
665
00:56:10,450 --> 00:56:12,703
You know, if you get involved
with a racing driver,
666
00:56:12,828 --> 00:56:15,502
you take the risk that something's
probably going to happen,
667
00:56:15,622 --> 00:56:18,045
certainly then
because it was so dangerous.
668
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,588
There was a black humor
in motor racing at that time
669
00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:23,805
to get through.
670
00:56:23,922 --> 00:56:25,424
It was a defense mechanism.
671
00:56:26,258 --> 00:56:29,603
I know that one circuit
we were at there was an accident
672
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:34,271
and the driver got out and walked away
and the crowds went, "Oh."
673
00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:37,652
It's an awful thing to say,
but it's true.
674
00:56:37,769 --> 00:56:39,863
People go for the excitement.
675
00:56:41,398 --> 00:56:43,696
I was doing time charts
all the time.
676
00:56:44,609 --> 00:56:47,533
That may have helped
keep that fear away.
677
00:56:47,654 --> 00:56:52,535
But I had full confidence
that Peter would never die.
678
00:56:52,659 --> 00:56:58,792
It was very easy to ignore
any possibility of things going wrong.
679
00:57:06,506 --> 00:57:10,136
Summer came
to Silverstone on Saturday July 19th
680
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:12,979
for the 1958 British Grand Prix,
681
00:57:13,096 --> 00:57:16,771
sixth race of the ten events
counting for the World Championship.
682
00:57:16,892 --> 00:57:18,314
The crowds came too,
683
00:57:18,435 --> 00:57:21,735
in their tens of thousands,
lining the three-mile circuit
684
00:57:21,855 --> 00:57:24,734
to watch the major event
in the British calendar,
685
00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:28,533
a race made more dramatic
by the fight for Championship honors.
686
00:57:33,909 --> 00:57:38,415
Peter had decided
that because of our marriage
687
00:57:38,538 --> 00:57:44,921
that he would drive the few races that
were left that year and then retire.
688
00:57:56,223 --> 00:57:58,225
Congratulations, Mike, on Reims.
689
00:57:58,350 --> 00:58:01,354
You don't happen to have a spare bottle
of champagne on you, do you?
690
00:58:01,478 --> 00:58:02,821
No. I haven't got it yet.
691
00:58:02,938 --> 00:58:04,736
What about the British Grand Prix?
692
00:58:04,856 --> 00:58:06,824
Because we won the last race,
693
00:58:06,942 --> 00:58:08,694
people are saying
Ferrari will win this one,
694
00:58:08,819 --> 00:58:11,447
but it's a completely
different type of circuit.
695
00:58:33,885 --> 00:58:35,603
It's Collins number one
696
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,940
and Silverstone sees
a high-speed tactical exercise
697
00:58:39,057 --> 00:58:42,607
carried out by three of the greatest
masters of the art of motor racing.
698
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:47,574
Collins was just
absolutely on it that day
699
00:58:47,691 --> 00:58:50,114
and he just controlled the race
from start to finish.
700
00:58:52,737 --> 00:58:55,035
And Collins
leads Hawthorn by 2'! Seconds
701
00:58:55,157 --> 00:58:58,161
at a race average
of 102.5 miles an hour.
702
00:59:01,121 --> 00:59:03,715
He was supremely quick,
Peter Collins, by then,
703
00:59:03,832 --> 00:59:07,462
and you can't describe his pace
any other way
704
00:59:07,586 --> 00:59:09,759
because of what he did at Silverstone.
705
00:59:16,011 --> 00:59:19,231
Peter Collins wins
after a magnificent drive
706
00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,190
and Mike Hawthorn is second.
707
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:26,897
Nobody expected him
to win at Silverstone.
708
00:59:27,022 --> 00:59:29,821
He was on the second row and
he just took the lead from the start
709
00:59:29,941 --> 00:59:31,488
and won with abandon.
710
00:59:31,610 --> 00:59:33,783
He drove beautifully that day.
711
00:59:35,906 --> 00:59:38,910
You know, it was a British crowd,
home victory.
712
00:59:39,034 --> 00:59:42,709
One golden boy
in Peter Collins had won it
713
00:59:42,829 --> 00:59:46,925
and the other golden boy, Mike Hawthorn,
had come in in second place.
714
00:59:47,042 --> 00:59:48,760
I mean, what could be better?
715
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:10,649
In the two weeks between
the British Grand Prix and Niirburgring,
716
01:00:10,774 --> 01:00:13,948
we had just put money down on a house,
717
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:16,868
so we were looking forward
to getting back.
718
01:00:21,952 --> 01:00:24,580
The trouble
with poor Mr Ferrari, in a way,
719
01:00:24,704 --> 01:00:29,756
was he'd suffered the very real personal
tragedy of losing his son, Dino.
720
01:00:29,876 --> 01:00:34,973
He'd transferred some of his almost
paternal affection and ambition
721
01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:36,842
to Peter Collins.
722
01:00:36,967 --> 01:00:42,189
The old man just feared
that Collins's focus in life
723
01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:44,728
was not gonna be any more on his racing.
724
01:00:47,978 --> 01:00:49,980
I mean, it was a wonderful time for us
725
01:00:50,105 --> 01:00:52,403
because we were making
all these future plans.
726
01:00:52,524 --> 01:00:56,154
And Peter asked me
not to come to Niirburgring.
727
01:00:56,278 --> 01:00:59,999
He said, "We have so much work to do
with this house."
728
01:01:00,115 --> 01:01:02,789
"Why don't you just stay
and manage that?"
729
01:01:02,909 --> 01:01:06,209
And I said, "Oh, no.
I'm not gonna let you go without me."
730
01:01:21,803 --> 01:01:25,603
When you think of circuits of that time,
there was Spa and it was very fast,
731
01:01:25,724 --> 01:01:30,025
but the Niirburgring
was miles of torture.
732
01:01:31,146 --> 01:01:35,572
It was 180 corners per lap and you
had any comer you'd like to name.
733
01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:38,453
The weather could change dramatically,
734
01:01:38,570 --> 01:01:41,369
as it could in the mountains
at any mountain circuit.
735
01:01:42,073 --> 01:01:45,668
It was, I think,
the most challenging circuit we had.
736
01:01:46,286 --> 01:01:50,962
Undulating, narrow,
demanding and unforgiving.
737
01:01:52,584 --> 01:01:54,427
The car was airborne a lot
738
01:01:54,544 --> 01:01:57,969
and the drivers, of course,
when they're in a groove,
739
01:01:58,089 --> 01:02:01,093
they're doing it from memory,
they're doing it from muscle memory.
740
01:02:01,217 --> 01:02:04,812
At the end of the day there's always
the unexpected around the next comer
741
01:02:04,929 --> 01:02:08,604
and that was probably
the biggest problem of the Niirburgring.
742
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:34,419
I thought it was just another race
at Niirburgring.
743
01:02:34,542 --> 01:02:39,298
I, um...
l-l didn't really have a lot of fear.
744
01:02:39,422 --> 01:02:42,596
I just had complete confidence in Peter.
745
01:03:38,857 --> 01:03:41,861
Phil Hill was leading
the Formula Two class
746
01:03:41,985 --> 01:03:47,367
until his dampers began
to give up and his drum brakes.
747
01:03:48,491 --> 01:03:50,289
And in their Formula One cars,
748
01:03:50,410 --> 01:03:53,960
Hawthorn and Collins
would have been experiencing
749
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,082
exactly the same difficulties,
750
01:03:56,207 --> 01:03:59,381
but they're running up
at the sharp end of the race,
751
01:03:59,502 --> 01:04:04,133
going for the lead,
and battling with Tony Brooks.
752
01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:07,386
And Tony was the smoothest of drivers.
753
01:04:09,387 --> 01:04:12,607
I caught them,
past Mike, I think, initially, one lap,
754
01:04:12,724 --> 01:04:14,397
and then he re-passed me.
755
01:04:14,517 --> 01:04:17,942
We swapped places on a couple of laps.
756
01:04:18,062 --> 01:04:21,157
And then I got back into the lead.
757
01:04:21,274 --> 01:04:24,619
So as these two ailing Ferraris
758
01:04:24,736 --> 01:04:29,412
became capable of only returning
slower and slower lap times,
759
01:04:29,532 --> 01:04:34,254
their drivers had to drive more
and more desperately to compensate.
760
01:04:36,706 --> 01:04:39,710
I pulled into the straight
and, of course, the first thing to do
761
01:04:39,834 --> 01:04:44,340
was to look behind
and see where Mike or Peter were
762
01:04:44,464 --> 01:04:49,345
and I looked behind
and there was no sign of either of them.
763
01:04:55,391 --> 01:04:59,237
I was in the pits
with my time-keeping stuff.
764
01:04:59,354 --> 01:05:04,656
Peter didn't come around again
and I thought, "What's happening?"
765
01:05:04,776 --> 01:05:08,201
But I focused on that lap chart.
766
01:05:10,156 --> 01:05:13,877
Mike's account, following Collins,
767
01:05:13,993 --> 01:05:16,872
was that he saw the car drift off
onto the grass and thought,
768
01:05:16,996 --> 01:05:19,249
"Well, you silly arse.
You've overcooked that one."
769
01:05:19,374 --> 01:05:21,672
And he expected him
to ride up the bank a bit
770
01:05:21,793 --> 01:05:23,887
and then come back off the grass
on to the road
771
01:05:24,003 --> 01:05:28,258
and he was a bit concerned
that he might spin across the road
772
01:05:28,383 --> 01:05:30,260
and might, himself, might hit him.
773
01:05:30,385 --> 01:05:36,734
But then, to his horror,
the car reared up on that bank
774
01:05:36,849 --> 01:05:41,980
and he just got a glimpse
of his great friend Peter Collins
775
01:05:42,105 --> 01:05:44,654
being thrown out
and flying through the air.
776
01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:18,517
Mr Hawthorn, you were driving
777
01:06:18,641 --> 01:06:22,316
just behind Peter Collins, I think,
when this accident occurred.
778
01:06:22,437 --> 01:06:24,360
Just how did it happen?
779
01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:29,574
Well, um... there was a little dip
and we went into that.
780
01:06:30,903 --> 01:06:32,997
And there's
a sharp right-hander after that
781
01:06:33,114 --> 01:06:36,118
and he took it just a little too wide.
782
01:06:36,242 --> 01:06:38,461
He didn't turn into it soon enough...
783
01:06:39,996 --> 01:06:44,217
and, um... the car hit the bank
and turned over.
784
01:06:44,334 --> 01:06:47,053
- How fast was he traveling?
- I don't know.
785
01:06:47,170 --> 01:06:49,593
- How fast were you...?
- I don't know.
786
01:07:03,353 --> 01:07:09,406
So it wasn't until after the race
that I was told Peter had an accident
787
01:07:09,525 --> 01:07:13,621
and he's being flown to Bonn
to the hospital.
788
01:07:13,738 --> 01:07:16,742
And I said, "Can I go too?"
And they said no.
789
01:07:18,326 --> 01:07:22,297
My father at the United Nations,
790
01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:27,886
he had always been having someone
keeping track of Peter's racing,
791
01:07:28,002 --> 01:07:34,851
so this UN man called my father
and said, "Peter's been in an accident,"
792
01:07:34,967 --> 01:07:41,225
and then my father pulled a few strings
and then he called the hospital.
793
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,900
And when I got into the hospital,
794
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:51,402
the first thing that happened
was I was told,
795
01:07:51,526 --> 01:07:55,121
"Oh, you have a phone call
at the reception desk."
796
01:07:55,238 --> 01:07:59,960
And I went there and my father
was on the phone from New York
797
01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:02,499
and he told me that Peter had died.
798
01:08:03,955 --> 01:08:08,210
That just, I thought, was so beautiful,
799
01:08:08,334 --> 01:08:11,679
that he would say, "I will tell her."
800
01:08:13,673 --> 01:08:15,846
I said, "Well, I want to see him."
801
01:08:16,551 --> 01:08:18,428
And I... They took me down.
802
01:08:18,553 --> 01:08:22,057
He was in the basement,
which was cooler, you know.
803
01:08:23,015 --> 01:08:28,897
I went down there and I looked
and I saw one foot.
804
01:08:29,814 --> 01:08:36,618
The covering that was over him,
that, that one foot was out.
805
01:08:38,114 --> 01:08:46,044
And in an instant I knew he was dead,
and so that was that.
806
01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:53,305
And we only had a year and a half,
but it was a great year and a half.
807
01:09:34,086 --> 01:09:39,308
Michael was desperately upset and it was
the first time I ever saw Mike cry.
808
01:09:39,425 --> 01:09:43,896
He was beside himself, really,
because he'd lost his great mate.
809
01:09:58,152 --> 01:10:00,871
Could you say
a few words, as a friend of his,
810
01:10:00,988 --> 01:10:04,242
about Peter Collins
as a man and as a driver?
811
01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:07,621
Well, as a driver, I mean,
he was definitely one of the best.
812
01:10:11,707 --> 01:10:15,132
As a friend, well, he was my friend.
813
01:10:34,897 --> 01:10:37,320
Do you know what fear is?
814
01:10:37,441 --> 01:10:40,866
I would say I've always lived in fear.
815
01:10:40,987 --> 01:10:42,989
What are your most frequent fears?
816
01:10:43,114 --> 01:10:44,912
All of them.
817
01:11:04,927 --> 01:11:11,230
It's very difficult even now trying to
comprehend what it would have been like.
818
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:16,356
How Ferrari got through that period
and emerged
819
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:20,656
is a tribute to Enzo's passion
for motor racing
820
01:11:20,776 --> 01:11:25,247
and his ability to turn the page
and move onwards.
821
01:11:28,993 --> 01:11:32,247
Once you've been through
as much as he had been through,
822
01:11:32,371 --> 01:11:35,545
he was already like a person in war
823
01:11:35,666 --> 01:11:37,919
and it means losing drivers
and everything
824
01:11:38,044 --> 01:11:41,969
and he did his best, I suppose,
to act appropriately.
825
01:11:42,089 --> 01:11:45,810
To what degree he really felt
these things is hard to say.
826
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:52,980
When you think of Peter Collins
and his grace, his sportsmanship
827
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:56,900
and what he did at Monza in '56,
828
01:11:57,021 --> 01:12:01,572
constantly Peter Collins doing
these wonderfully humble gestures.
829
01:12:01,692 --> 01:12:05,287
If you look at Luigi Musso
and Eugenio Castellotti,
830
01:12:05,404 --> 01:12:09,784
they were divided in their support,
but they brought to Formula One
831
01:12:09,909 --> 01:12:11,877
the Italian element of glory.
832
01:12:11,994 --> 01:12:15,589
And that's something that
was very difficult for both drivers.
833
01:12:15,706 --> 01:12:19,381
Both drivers crashed
and died under that pressure.
834
01:12:19,502 --> 01:12:21,220
And then there was Alfonso de Portago,
835
01:12:21,337 --> 01:12:25,592
who was basically James Dean on wheels,
was great.
836
01:12:26,467 --> 01:12:31,189
The appeal of the drivers in the 1950s
was that they were all so different
837
01:12:31,305 --> 01:12:36,903
and yet united in this willingness
to take enormous risks.
838
01:12:37,019 --> 01:12:38,817
With each death of a driver,
839
01:12:38,938 --> 01:12:42,613
the pressure mounted
on Enzo Ferrari and the team.
840
01:12:43,734 --> 01:12:49,366
Team manager, Romolo Tavoni,
tells us that Mr Ferrari was devastated.
841
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:52,915
His initial reaction was to say,
"We must give up Grand Prix racing."
842
01:12:53,035 --> 01:12:54,252
"This is too much."
843
01:12:54,370 --> 01:12:58,921
But Hawthorn went to see him and said,
"I want to finish the season."
844
01:12:59,041 --> 01:13:02,762
"I'll drive another car if I've got to,
but I want to drive a Ferrari."
845
01:13:03,504 --> 01:13:05,973
I think he'd lost the love of racing,
846
01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:09,469
but he was determined
to do it for Peter's sake, really.
847
01:13:16,976 --> 01:13:18,944
Thereafter
for the rest of the season,
848
01:13:19,061 --> 01:13:20,563
each time they finished a race,
849
01:13:20,688 --> 01:13:25,285
Mike would say, "Well, that's another
bloody race I don't have to do again."
850
01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:27,074
But whichever way you slice it,
851
01:13:27,194 --> 01:13:30,664
he was in there with a chance
of the Drivers' World Championship.
852
01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:35,086
In actual fact, he reckoned Peter
would have won the World Championship
853
01:13:35,202 --> 01:13:37,671
and I think that made him upset.
854
01:13:40,207 --> 01:13:44,713
Between the Italian Grand Prix
and the Moroccan Grand Prix,
855
01:13:44,837 --> 01:13:46,931
it was six very tense weeks.
856
01:13:48,966 --> 01:13:51,094
Everybody used
to bug Mike, you know.
857
01:13:51,218 --> 01:13:55,940
Every time he went into a pub they'd
say to him, "Mike, it's not long now."
858
01:13:56,057 --> 01:13:57,809
So we stayed at home.
859
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,234
The British press
were also fired up by the fact
860
01:14:02,354 --> 01:14:06,780
that there was now going to be a British
Formula One World Champion driver
861
01:14:06,901 --> 01:14:09,120
for the very first time.
862
01:14:09,236 --> 01:14:13,412
The Daily Mirror characterized it
as the "showdown in the sun."
863
01:14:15,618 --> 01:14:19,248
Michael was very nervous.
He wasn't at all himself.
864
01:14:19,371 --> 01:14:23,001
You know, the sort of carefree person
that he normally was.
865
01:14:25,628 --> 01:14:30,429
Sometimes he really had to slow down
and rest and take it easy.
866
01:14:30,549 --> 01:14:33,849
So I was always aware
when he felt like that
867
01:14:33,969 --> 01:14:36,643
that he had to take care of himself.
868
01:14:38,557 --> 01:14:43,063
You know, before a race I was amazed
that Mike actually came into my room
869
01:14:43,187 --> 01:14:47,442
and stayed with me for the whole night,
which was most unlike Mike.
870
01:14:47,566 --> 01:14:50,115
He just wanted
to be with somebody, I think.
871
01:14:50,236 --> 01:14:51,988
I think he was very nervous.
872
01:15:06,377 --> 01:15:10,348
All that Moss had to do
to win the World Championship
873
01:15:10,464 --> 01:15:14,469
was to beat Hawthorn
and hopefully set fastest lap,
874
01:15:14,593 --> 01:15:19,520
which scored an extra point,
with Mike finishing lower than third.
875
01:16:50,606 --> 01:16:52,483
At the end of the race in Morocco,
876
01:16:52,608 --> 01:16:56,488
Phil Hill had done the decent thing
and handed second place to Hawthorn.
877
01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:59,035
Moss had done everything he could do.
He'd won.
878
01:16:59,156 --> 01:17:00,658
He'd set fastest lap.
879
01:17:00,783 --> 01:17:05,209
But still, when it was all over,
Mike Hawthorn was the World Champion.
880
01:17:07,539 --> 01:17:11,089
Mr Ferrari's reaction
to winning the World Championship,
881
01:17:11,210 --> 01:17:15,681
after what in so many ways
had been that catastrophic year,
882
01:17:15,798 --> 01:17:18,677
was one of immense overwhelming relief.
883
01:17:19,551 --> 01:17:24,057
Moss ended up one point, just
that solitary point, behind Hawthorn.
884
01:17:24,181 --> 01:17:29,028
So Mr Ferrari knew that they'd
shaded it, but, hey, a win's a win.
885
01:17:32,940 --> 01:17:36,194
With a few laps to go,
Stuart Lewis-Evans was running fourth
886
01:17:36,318 --> 01:17:39,413
but suddenly his engine seized,
the car caught fire,
887
01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:41,953
and by the time the brilliant
young Englishman was out,
888
01:17:42,074 --> 01:17:44,247
he was already severely burnt.
889
01:17:45,953 --> 01:17:49,127
That affected Mike
because he hated drivers being hurt
890
01:17:49,248 --> 01:17:51,250
and he knew that Stuart was very ill.
891
01:17:52,126 --> 01:17:55,847
He told Enzo after the race
that he wasn't going to race anymore
892
01:17:55,963 --> 01:17:57,636
and Enzo was furious.
893
01:17:58,799 --> 01:18:02,099
Can you give us any news
of Stuart Lewis-Evans?
894
01:18:02,219 --> 01:18:04,142
He's quite badly burnt.
895
01:18:04,263 --> 01:18:08,143
He came back in the aeroplane
on a stretcher with us just now.
896
01:18:08,267 --> 01:18:10,144
He was talking and drinking tea,
897
01:18:10,269 --> 01:18:13,398
but, um...
he's obviously in quite a lot of pain.
898
01:18:14,189 --> 01:18:17,113
The flight home was bittersweet
in the truest sense of the word.
899
01:18:17,234 --> 01:18:19,578
On one hand, Mike Hawthorn
had won his World Championship.
900
01:18:19,695 --> 01:18:21,789
On the other,
there was Stuart Lewis-Evans'
901
01:18:21,905 --> 01:18:23,873
terrible agony from these burns.
902
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:26,952
He died a few days later in London.
903
01:18:27,077 --> 01:18:30,377
You look at footage of Mike
having won the World Championship,
904
01:18:30,497 --> 01:18:32,215
he doesn't look to be happy.
905
01:18:32,333 --> 01:18:34,085
But then why would he?
906
01:18:34,209 --> 01:18:38,259
It was a year that in many ways Mike
would have wanted to have forgotten
907
01:18:38,380 --> 01:18:40,803
and yet he was World Champion.
908
01:18:45,512 --> 01:18:47,560
He was a very good World Champion
909
01:18:47,681 --> 01:18:50,184
because he looked good
and he spoke well,
910
01:18:50,309 --> 01:18:53,313
so he wore the mantle extremely well.
911
01:18:54,313 --> 01:18:56,782
I've had eight years of racing.
912
01:18:56,899 --> 01:19:02,281
In eight years I got to the top.
So I decided now's the time.
913
01:19:02,404 --> 01:19:04,998
Thank you all very, very much indeed
for coming along
914
01:19:05,115 --> 01:19:07,413
and being so patient to listen to me.
915
01:19:07,534 --> 01:19:11,630
And I hope one day some of you
will come along and join me
916
01:19:11,747 --> 01:19:15,126
and we'll empty that lot.
Thank you very much.
917
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,653
On the 22nd of January, 1959,
918
01:19:38,774 --> 01:19:41,744
Mike had a lunch appointment
up in London.
919
01:19:42,569 --> 01:19:46,369
He didn't want to go to London that day.
He wasn't feeling very well.
920
01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:48,208
I knew that he was in a lot of pain
921
01:19:48,325 --> 01:19:52,250
and I'd seen him on the floor
writhing around in agony.
922
01:19:53,789 --> 01:19:58,841
When I came back to England,
my most urgent thing was to see Mike.
923
01:19:58,961 --> 01:20:01,760
We said, "OK, we'll see each other
after that luncheon,"
924
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,099
and he would come to my hotel.
925
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,304
As he went along
the Hog's Back road,
926
01:20:08,429 --> 01:20:12,775
he came up behind
a Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing
927
01:20:12,891 --> 01:20:16,646
and he recognized
the driver immediately as Rob Walker.
928
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:20,695
I saw a Jaguar come up behind me
and I saw it was Mike Hawthorn
929
01:20:20,816 --> 01:20:25,788
and we both accelerated as hard
as we could alongside each other.
930
01:20:26,947 --> 01:20:31,373
Rob was thinking, "Oh, this is all
getting a bit much for me"
931
01:20:31,493 --> 01:20:34,042
and I'm not really a racing driver,
though I'm keen."
932
01:20:47,426 --> 01:20:50,680
I was so looking forward to seeing him.
933
01:20:50,804 --> 01:20:54,308
I wanted very much to have Mike
tell me what it's like
934
01:20:54,433 --> 01:20:57,107
to be in a serious accident.
935
01:20:57,227 --> 01:21:00,902
Does your whole life run in front of you
or what happens?
936
01:21:34,181 --> 01:21:38,027
When I walked into the hotel,
937
01:21:38,143 --> 01:21:41,864
the receptionist knew me.
938
01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:46,861
Peter had always stayed in that hotel.
He was very aware of things.
939
01:21:46,985 --> 01:21:49,704
The receptionist didn't look at me.
940
01:21:49,821 --> 01:21:55,294
And I got into the elevator,
up to whatever floor I was on,
941
01:21:55,410 --> 01:22:00,257
went into my room and knock on the door,
942
01:22:00,374 --> 01:22:03,969
and it was the manager of the hotel
943
01:22:04,086 --> 01:22:06,589
and he told me that Mike had died.
944
01:22:10,300 --> 01:22:15,101
And I just... I mean, I...
It was shattering. It was shattering.
945
01:22:15,222 --> 01:22:16,895
It was just awful.
946
01:22:18,016 --> 01:22:21,987
Rob managed to get the back door open
and bent down
947
01:22:22,104 --> 01:22:24,983
and he told me
that as he looked at Mike,
948
01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:31,615
Mike's eyes glazed
and there was a gentle gasp
949
01:22:31,738 --> 01:22:33,206
and that was it.
950
01:22:52,467 --> 01:22:55,767
I was up in Yorkshire
when I heard the news
951
01:22:55,887 --> 01:22:57,889
and I just didn't believe it.
952
01:23:00,434 --> 01:23:02,061
But, um...
953
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:05,398
When I did believe it, a lot of...
954
01:23:05,522 --> 01:23:08,776
I had a lot of friends
in that part of the world and they...
955
01:23:10,485 --> 01:23:13,329
I think... I seem to remember
going for a long walk on the moors.
956
01:23:17,534 --> 01:23:20,003
I think I heard it
on the television at home
957
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:25,047
and it was, you know,
it was very, very, very sad
958
01:23:25,167 --> 01:23:28,341
and, you know,
so... so unnecessary, really,
959
01:23:28,462 --> 01:23:32,888
but it's easy to say that
with the benefit of hindsight.
960
01:23:40,182 --> 01:23:45,063
I think it's that he had a blackout
961
01:23:45,187 --> 01:23:46,905
because he knew that road backwards.
962
01:23:47,022 --> 01:23:50,242
He knew the car.
He used to race that car.
963
01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:52,157
That road, it might have been slippery,
964
01:23:52,277 --> 01:23:55,577
but Mike's been in...
in masses of skids,
965
01:23:55,697 --> 01:23:56,914
so I think he had a blackout
966
01:23:57,032 --> 01:24:00,457
and he didn't really know anything
about the accident at all.
967
01:24:00,577 --> 01:24:03,251
That's what I think
and that's what I hope.
968
01:24:08,752 --> 01:24:11,676
Whichever way you look at it,
Mike's life was tragic.
969
01:24:11,797 --> 01:24:17,395
He only got to savor
his World Championship for three months
970
01:24:17,511 --> 01:24:19,309
and then it all just went away.
971
01:24:24,851 --> 01:24:29,152
People who knew him well said to me
he would not have made 35.
972
01:24:30,607 --> 01:24:33,030
Whether that's true or not,
I don't know.
973
01:24:33,151 --> 01:24:35,529
Um... But...
974
01:24:35,654 --> 01:24:37,372
But the prognosis wasn't very good.
975
01:24:38,657 --> 01:24:42,753
His last Christmas
was spent in bed. He wasn't at all well.
976
01:24:42,869 --> 01:24:44,542
I didn't know how ill he was.
977
01:24:44,663 --> 01:24:46,961
His doctor told me later
978
01:24:47,082 --> 01:24:49,881
that he only had a few years to live.
979
01:24:50,794 --> 01:24:55,891
So the way he went, I suppose,
it was the best way for Mike.
980
01:24:59,761 --> 01:25:02,184
You've been quite straightforward
981
01:25:02,305 --> 01:25:03,477
about some of those who quit.
982
01:25:03,598 --> 01:25:09,230
You said, "Time will prove
the worth of all these people."
983
01:25:09,354 --> 01:25:14,485
It is not up to humans to judge
984
01:25:14,609 --> 01:25:17,032
what we are supposed to believe.
985
01:25:17,154 --> 01:25:20,829
Only time can do that.
And time is relentless.
986
01:25:26,496 --> 01:25:28,749
If you put a racing driver
in a racing car,
987
01:25:28,874 --> 01:25:33,300
he's always going to take it
to the limit and beyond if necessary.
988
01:25:33,420 --> 01:25:37,345
Um... Ferrari certainly
didn't discourage that.
989
01:25:37,466 --> 01:25:40,470
He wanted drivers who thought like that.
990
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:45,064
I would say, first and foremost...
991
01:25:46,224 --> 01:25:51,321
that I did nothing
other than what gave me pleasure.
992
01:25:53,148 --> 01:25:58,905
I just did something that mattered
to me, in a purely selfish way.
993
01:25:59,029 --> 01:26:00,952
I only find comfort in the thought
994
01:26:01,072 --> 01:26:06,374
that what I did
wasn't detrimental to anybody.
995
01:26:08,747 --> 01:26:11,842
It was phenomenal
with Castellotti and Musso and Portago
996
01:26:11,958 --> 01:26:14,302
and Collins and Hawthorn.
997
01:26:14,419 --> 01:26:15,591
That was an amazing bunch.
998
01:26:15,712 --> 01:26:19,762
An amazing bunch of characters
as well as a bunch of talents.
999
01:26:19,883 --> 01:26:22,727
And to lose those drivers
one after another,
1000
01:26:22,844 --> 01:26:25,848
it was a terrible thing,
it couldn't happen now,
1001
01:26:25,972 --> 01:26:29,442
and it was probably unique
in sporting history.
1002
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:35,236
Well, they were rather like
fighter pilots or gladiators, I suppose.
1003
01:26:35,357 --> 01:26:36,825
They were...
1004
01:26:36,942 --> 01:26:38,660
They were stars.
1005
01:26:40,403 --> 01:26:43,327
They would have been the first
out of the trench or over the top,
1006
01:26:43,448 --> 01:26:45,576
the first off the landing craft.
1007
01:26:45,700 --> 01:26:47,452
These guys were...
1008
01:26:51,373 --> 01:26:53,125
They were warriors.
1009
01:28:38,563 --> 01:28:40,986
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1010
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