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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,235 --> 00:00:04,203 Narrator: ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, MOSES IS ONE OF 2 00:00:04,305 --> 00:00:06,972 THE MOST IMPORTANT PROPHETS IN HISTORY. 3 00:00:07,074 --> 00:00:10,542 BUT WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE ACTUAL MAN HIMSELF? 4 00:00:10,644 --> 00:00:12,745 SURPRISINGLY VERY LITTLE. 5 00:00:12,847 --> 00:00:15,881 THERE SEEM TO BE NO FACTUAL ACCOUNTS OF MOSES 6 00:00:15,983 --> 00:00:17,182 AND LITTLE EVIDENCE 7 00:00:17,284 --> 00:00:20,986 FROM ARCHAEOLOGY OR HISTORICAL RECORDS TO PROVE 8 00:00:21,088 --> 00:00:23,288 THE EXODUS STORY IS TRUE. 9 00:00:23,391 --> 00:00:26,625 WHETHER MOSES IS LEGEND OR FACT, 10 00:00:26,727 --> 00:00:32,097 HE IS A TOWERING FIGURE IN ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS. 11 00:00:45,146 --> 00:00:46,923 Narrator: ACADEMICS, ARCHAEOLOGISTS, 12 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:49,114 AND HISTORIANS DEBATE OVER WHEN 13 00:00:49,216 --> 00:00:52,518 MOSES LIVED AND IF HE LIVED AT ALL, 14 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:54,731 WHETHER THE STORIES OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, 15 00:00:54,755 --> 00:00:58,090 THE BURNING BUSH, AND EVEN THE PARTING OF THE RED SEA 16 00:00:58,192 --> 00:00:59,192 ACTUALLY HAPPENED. 17 00:01:01,128 --> 00:01:03,306 Kirkpatrick: HE PERFORMED GREAT ACTS OF MAGIC, 18 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:06,965 WHICH HE CLAIMED WERE MIRACLES... OR WERE THEY? 19 00:01:08,135 --> 00:01:11,937 Boxall: IS THERE A SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION BEHIND THIS STORY? 20 00:01:13,107 --> 00:01:15,388 AND THE ANSWER IS, YES, WE CAN DO IT VERY SIMPLY. 21 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:19,344 Phillips: IF MY HISTORICAL RESEARCH IS CORRECT, 22 00:01:19,447 --> 00:01:22,181 THEN MOSES WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON 23 00:01:22,283 --> 00:01:23,449 WHO EVER LIVED. 24 00:01:26,353 --> 00:01:34,353 ¶ 25 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:41,530 ¶ 26 00:01:41,554 --> 00:01:46,154 FORBIDDEN HISTORY - SEASON 6 EP - 10 - Secret Life of Moses 27 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:54,340 ¶ 28 00:01:55,015 --> 00:01:57,449 Narrator: MOSES IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FIGURES 29 00:01:57,551 --> 00:01:58,650 IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, 30 00:01:58,786 --> 00:02:00,419 ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, 31 00:02:00,521 --> 00:02:03,122 BUT WHO IS THIS MYSTERIOUS CHARACTER? 32 00:02:06,694 --> 00:02:08,093 Gough: MOSES WAS A PROPHET 33 00:02:08,195 --> 00:02:11,396 ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM. 34 00:02:11,499 --> 00:02:13,098 THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,466 WHETHER HE IS A REAL, 36 00:02:14,568 --> 00:02:17,870 HISTORICAL FIGURE OR MYTHOLOGICAL. 37 00:02:19,173 --> 00:02:20,884 McMahon: I MEAN, HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LEGENDARY FIGURE. 38 00:02:20,908 --> 00:02:24,109 HE MAY HAVE BEEN FACTUAL, BUT HE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT 39 00:02:24,211 --> 00:02:26,345 PROPHET IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. 40 00:02:26,447 --> 00:02:29,214 YOU KNOW, HE WRITES THE TORAH, THE LAWS OF GOD. 41 00:02:29,316 --> 00:02:31,717 HE LEADS THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EGYPT, 42 00:02:31,819 --> 00:02:33,986 OUT OF BONDAGE TO THE PROMISED LAND. 43 00:02:34,088 --> 00:02:37,589 AND HE IS, AMONG ALL THE PROPHETS, THE MOST REVERED, 44 00:02:37,691 --> 00:02:38,824 THE MOST IMPORTANT. 45 00:02:41,095 --> 00:02:46,231 [ SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE ] 46 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:50,202 Young-Somers: MOSES HOLDS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE THREE BIG 47 00:02:50,304 --> 00:02:51,670 MONOTHEISTIC FAITHS, 48 00:02:51,772 --> 00:02:56,808 AS THE ARCHETYPE LEADER CERTAINLY FORMS THE MAJORITY 49 00:02:56,911 --> 00:02:59,411 OF THE NARRATIVE THROUGH THE FIVE BOOKS OF MOSES, 50 00:02:59,513 --> 00:03:02,481 WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY CORTEX FOR BOTH JEWS AND CHRISTIANS, 51 00:03:02,583 --> 00:03:04,694 WHETHER THAT'S IN THE OLD TESTAMENT OR IN THE HEBREW 52 00:03:04,718 --> 00:03:07,686 BIBLE AND TORAH, AND THEN HE'S ALSO CONSIDERED A VERY 53 00:03:07,788 --> 00:03:10,355 IMPORTANT PROPHET IN ISLAM, TOO, SO, 54 00:03:10,457 --> 00:03:14,259 I THINK, A CORE FIGURE FOR ALL THE THREE ABRAHAMIC FAITHS. 55 00:03:18,165 --> 00:03:20,732 Narrator: THE TRADITIONAL STORY IS THAT MOSES WAS 56 00:03:20,834 --> 00:03:24,136 THE SON OF A HEBREW SLAVE IN ANCIENT EGYPT. 57 00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:27,206 AT THE TIME, THE PHARAOH FEARED HIS GROWING 58 00:03:27,308 --> 00:03:28,707 HEBREW POPULATION 59 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:32,678 AND ORDERED ALL OF THEIR NEWBORN BOYS TO BE SLAIN. 60 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:35,781 SO TO ESCAPE THIS FATE, MOSES'S MOTHER 61 00:03:35,883 --> 00:03:39,318 HID HER SON IN A BASKET AND SET IT FREE ON 62 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:40,619 THE RIVER NILE. 63 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:48,093 MOSES IS FOUND BY NO LESS A PERSON THAN 64 00:03:48,195 --> 00:03:49,394 PHARAOH'S DAUGHTER, 65 00:03:49,496 --> 00:03:52,698 WHO BRINGS HIM TO THE ROYAL PALACE, WHERE HE'S BROUGHT UP. 66 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,300 NOW, NOT ONLY IS THAT DRAMATIC IN TERMS OF THE CONTEXT, 67 00:03:55,402 --> 00:03:58,203 BUT IN TERMS OF STORY-WRITING AND SYMBOL, THAT'S THE MOST 68 00:03:58,305 --> 00:03:59,171 POWERFUL YOU GET, 69 00:03:59,273 --> 00:04:00,884 BECAUSE IT'S A TRANSITIONAL MOMENT. 70 00:04:00,908 --> 00:04:04,576 IT'S LIMINAL, HE'S MOVING FROM ONE WORLD INTO THE NEXT WORLD 71 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:08,847 THROUGH THE WATER... HE'S BEING SET UP AS A HERO IN THE MAKING. 72 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:10,927 Narrator: AS MOSES ENTERS ADULTHOOD, 73 00:04:10,951 --> 00:04:13,385 HE EMBARKS ON A TROUBLING PATH, 74 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:17,556 TORN BETWEEN HIS EGYPTIAN UPBRINGING AND HIS HEBREW ROOTS. 75 00:04:18,659 --> 00:04:21,493 Bianchi: MOSES, AS THIS ADOPTED EGYPTIAN, 76 00:04:21,595 --> 00:04:26,298 SEES HIS PEOPLE BEING MISTREATED, AND MOSES SEES 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,935 AN EGYPTIAN OVERSEER BEAT A HEBREW WORKER. 78 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:33,972 AND MOSES WAITS FOR AN OPPORTUNE TIME, 79 00:04:35,309 --> 00:04:37,943 GOES UP TO THE EGYPTIAN, AND MURDERS HIM. 80 00:04:40,481 --> 00:04:42,981 NEWS OF HIS MURDER 81 00:04:43,083 --> 00:04:46,818 IS ON EVERYBODY'S LIPS, AND PHARAOH STARTS 82 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,153 TO LOOK FOR HIM. 83 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:52,291 Narrator: MOSES ESCAPED TO THE DESERT AND LED 84 00:04:52,393 --> 00:04:55,394 A SIMPLE LIFE IN EXILE AS A SHEPHERD. 85 00:04:55,496 --> 00:04:58,463 ONE DAY, WHILE TENDING HIS FLOCK, HE ENCOUNTERED 86 00:04:58,565 --> 00:05:01,366 A BURNING BUSH AND THE VOICE OF GOD, 87 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:04,803 TELLING HIM TO RETURN TO EGYPT, CONFRONT THE PHARAOH, 88 00:05:04,905 --> 00:05:08,573 FREE THE HEBREWS, AND TAKE THEM TO THE PROMISED LAND. 89 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:11,543 TO SUPPORT MOSES'S MISSION, 90 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:14,980 GOD SUMMONS TEN PLAGUES TO TERRORIZE THE PHARAOH. 91 00:05:15,082 --> 00:05:21,987 ¶ 92 00:05:22,089 --> 00:05:24,589 AFTER AGREEING TO MOSES'S TERMS, 93 00:05:24,692 --> 00:05:28,460 THE PHARAOH CHANGED HIS MIND AND GAVE CHASE. 94 00:05:28,562 --> 00:05:31,630 WITH THE HEBREWS TRAPPED ON THE EDGE OF THE RED SEA, 95 00:05:31,765 --> 00:05:34,800 MOSES USED HIS STAFF TO PART THE WAVES, 96 00:05:34,902 --> 00:05:36,942 ALLOWING THE DESPERATE GROUP TO ESCAPE. 97 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,973 THE EGYPTIAN ARMY FOLLOWED, 98 00:05:42,076 --> 00:05:45,010 BUT IS ENGULFED BY THE VIOLENT WATERS. 99 00:05:45,112 --> 00:05:48,747 THIS ALLOWED MOSES TO LEAD HIS PEOPLE TO MOUNT SINAI, 100 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:51,183 WHERE GOD GAVE HIM THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 101 00:05:51,285 --> 00:05:53,952 AND THEN TOOK HIS PEOPLE TO THE PROMISED LAND. 102 00:05:57,825 --> 00:06:01,193 Young-Somers: MOSES IS A FLAWED INDIVIDUAL 103 00:06:01,295 --> 00:06:02,405 IN THE JEWISH TRADITION, 104 00:06:02,429 --> 00:06:04,863 BUT ALSO THE GREATEST LEADER THAT WE'VE HAD. 105 00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:07,232 AND I THINK MOSES'S 106 00:06:07,334 --> 00:06:10,769 FLAWS ARE... ARE, FOR ME, 107 00:06:10,871 --> 00:06:12,482 AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE NARRATIVE, 108 00:06:12,506 --> 00:06:14,005 BECAUSE IT TEACHES US THAT 109 00:06:14,108 --> 00:06:16,808 EVEN AS FLAWED PEOPLE OURSELVES, 110 00:06:16,877 --> 00:06:18,621 WE CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 111 00:06:18,645 --> 00:06:20,679 WE CAN STILL CONTRIBUTE, AND THAT 112 00:06:20,781 --> 00:06:22,759 GOD CAN STILL BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH US, 113 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:24,082 EVEN THOUGH WE MAKE MISTAKES. 114 00:06:27,187 --> 00:06:30,822 Gough: BY ALL ACCOUNTS, MOSES WAS A VIRTUOUS MAN, 115 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:32,691 A MAN OF HIS PRINCIPLES. 116 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:35,861 HE WAS DEDICATED... NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT 117 00:06:35,963 --> 00:06:39,297 OR ARDUOUS THE TASK THAT HE WAS GIVEN, 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,033 HE DID IT, SO HE'S BECOME THIS SORT OF 119 00:06:42,136 --> 00:06:46,805 INSPIRATIONAL FIGURE WHO WANTED TO DO THINGS HIS WAY 120 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:50,642 NO MATTER WHAT THE ESTABLISHED NORM WAS AT THAT TIME. 121 00:06:53,713 --> 00:06:56,148 Narrator: FOR SUCH A CENTRAL RELIGIOUS FIGURE, 122 00:06:56,250 --> 00:07:00,552 THE LACK OF EVIDENCE AROUND HIM IS, WELL, OUTSTANDING. 123 00:07:00,654 --> 00:07:03,221 THERE ARE NO ARCHAEOLOGICAL FINDINGS TO SUPPORT 124 00:07:03,323 --> 00:07:04,556 THE BIBLICAL STORY 125 00:07:04,658 --> 00:07:07,459 AND CERTAINLY NO EXTRA BIBLICAL REFERENCES 126 00:07:07,561 --> 00:07:09,928 IN EGYPTIAN INSCRIPTIONS. 127 00:07:10,063 --> 00:07:13,698 THE ABSENCE OF PROOF IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR HISTORIANS, 128 00:07:13,801 --> 00:07:16,101 ARCHAEOLOGISTS, AND ACADEMICS. 129 00:07:20,073 --> 00:07:23,041 THERE IS STRANGELY NO EVIDENCE THAT MOSES 130 00:07:23,143 --> 00:07:25,310 WAS A HISTORICAL FIGURE, AND I SAY STRANGELY, 131 00:07:25,412 --> 00:07:27,979 BECAUSE THE EGYPTIANS WERE SO GOOD AT KEEPING RECORDS, 132 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:31,316 AND TO NOT HAVE A RECORD THERE IS INTERESTING. 133 00:07:31,418 --> 00:07:34,252 WE EVEN HAVE RECORDS OF PEOPLE WHO... WHOSE RECORDS WERE 134 00:07:34,354 --> 00:07:35,754 EFFACED, LIKE HATSHEPSUT 135 00:07:35,856 --> 00:07:38,156 WHEN SHE WAS STRICKEN FROM RECORDS BY HER SON 136 00:07:38,258 --> 00:07:39,758 AFTER HE CAME TO POWER. 137 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:42,300 WE KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENED, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING ON MOSES. 138 00:07:44,898 --> 00:07:50,035 LIKE MANY, MANY GREAT, EPIC TALES, 139 00:07:50,137 --> 00:07:51,937 THERE MIGHT BE 140 00:07:52,039 --> 00:07:54,105 JUST A KERNEL OF TRUTH 141 00:07:54,208 --> 00:07:57,375 UPON WHOM THE CHARACTER OF MOSES IS BASED, 142 00:07:57,478 --> 00:07:59,678 AND I'M NOT PREPARED 143 00:07:59,780 --> 00:08:02,714 TO DISMISS HIM OUT OF HAND. 144 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:06,084 ALTHOUGH, WHEN YOU STUDY TRADITIONS, 145 00:08:06,186 --> 00:08:07,719 YOU UNDERSTAND THAT... 146 00:08:08,789 --> 00:08:12,090 HISTORY HAS A CHANCE OF BEING 147 00:08:12,192 --> 00:08:15,093 MORPHED INTO SOMETHING LARGER THAN LIFE. 148 00:08:17,865 --> 00:08:22,400 Gough: NOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE IT IS A AUTHENTIC STORY 149 00:08:22,503 --> 00:08:25,637 THAT THE ISRAELITES WERE HELD CAPTIVE IN EGYPT 150 00:08:25,739 --> 00:08:30,876 AND LEFT IN THE EXODUS POINT US TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS 151 00:08:30,978 --> 00:08:33,578 AND DIFFERENT PERIODS IN TIME, 152 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,482 WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T FIND THE EVIDENCE WE THINK WE SHOULD. 153 00:08:39,152 --> 00:08:42,921 Narrator: SO WHERE CAN WE FIND EVIDENCE FOR THE REAL MOSES? 154 00:08:43,056 --> 00:08:45,016 AND WHAT CONTROVERSIAL THEORIES ARE 155 00:08:45,092 --> 00:08:48,360 GIVEN TO EXPLAIN HIS SUPERNATURAL POWERS? 156 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:59,471 ¶ 157 00:08:59,573 --> 00:09:01,584 Narrator: DID THE LEGENDARY BIBLICAL FIGURE 158 00:09:01,608 --> 00:09:03,875 OF MOSES REALLY EXIST? 159 00:09:03,977 --> 00:09:07,212 ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE HAS YET TO UNEARTH ANY PROOF OF 160 00:09:07,314 --> 00:09:08,747 HIS LIFE, OR EVEN THAT 161 00:09:08,849 --> 00:09:11,883 OF HIS FOLLOWERS IN EGYPT OR IN THE DESERTS OF 162 00:09:11,985 --> 00:09:14,019 THE SINAI PENINSULA. 163 00:09:14,121 --> 00:09:16,621 YET THERE ARE TANTALIZING CLUES IN THE STORY OF 164 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:20,058 SOMETHING THAT MAY BE MORE THAN MERE FOLK TALE. 165 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,929 FOR A START, THERE IS THE NAME MOSES ITSELF. 166 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:32,637 Bianchi: THE NAME MOSES CAN ETYMOLOGICALLY BE RELATED 167 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:34,339 TO THE EGYPTIAN, 168 00:09:34,441 --> 00:09:38,076 THE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN VERB, MEANING "TO BE BORN." 169 00:09:38,178 --> 00:09:43,448 AND SO, IN A SENSE, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE AN EGYPTIAN SLANT, 170 00:09:43,550 --> 00:09:46,718 MOSES HAS AN EGYPTIAN NAME, BECAUSE, QUOTE, 171 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:48,987 "HE WAS BORN OUT OF THE WATER." 172 00:09:54,027 --> 00:09:56,628 McMahon: THE OLD TESTAMENT TELLS US THAT MOSES WAS 173 00:09:56,730 --> 00:09:59,931 A FOURTH GENERATION EGYPTIAN, I MEAN, THIS IS 174 00:10:00,033 --> 00:10:03,134 ESSENTIALLY A CITIZEN OF ANCIENT EGYPT, 175 00:10:03,236 --> 00:10:06,137 AS WERE MOST OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT HE LED OUT 176 00:10:06,239 --> 00:10:07,239 OF BONDAGE. 177 00:10:07,341 --> 00:10:10,742 SO IF WE'D MET MOSES, WE'D HAVE MET ESSENTIALLY 178 00:10:10,844 --> 00:10:14,079 AN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN BY APPEARANCE, 179 00:10:14,181 --> 00:10:16,748 POSSIBLY EVEN BY LANGUAGE, BY CULTURE. 180 00:10:19,553 --> 00:10:22,587 Narrator: ALTHOUGH HE LED THE HEBREWS OUT OF SLAVERY, 181 00:10:22,689 --> 00:10:24,990 MOSES'S EGYPTIAN LINK MIGHT 182 00:10:25,092 --> 00:10:27,192 BE STRONGER THAN THE BIBLE REVEALS. 183 00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:31,162 INTERESTINGLY, HIS STORY HAS A STRANGE ECHO 184 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:34,265 OF THE LIFE OF EGYPTIAN PHARAOH AKHENATEN, 185 00:10:34,368 --> 00:10:36,835 THE FIRST MONOTHEIST KNOWN TO HISTORY. 186 00:10:38,005 --> 00:10:41,773 AUTHOR AND EGYPTOLOGIST AHMED OSMAN HAS WRITTEN 187 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:45,343 SEVERAL BOOKS OUTLINING HIS BELIEF THAT MOSES WAS 188 00:10:45,445 --> 00:10:46,745 AKHENATEN. 189 00:11:18,345 --> 00:11:23,515 AKHENATEN REIGNED FROM 1352 TO 1338 BC 190 00:11:23,617 --> 00:11:26,851 AND PROCLAIMED THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, 191 00:11:26,953 --> 00:11:29,154 ATEN, THE SUN DISC. 192 00:11:29,256 --> 00:11:31,423 ALL OTHERS WERE FALSE. 193 00:11:31,525 --> 00:11:35,560 BUT WHEN AKHENATEN DIED, THE OLD RELIGIOUS SYSTEM REVIVED 194 00:11:35,662 --> 00:11:37,195 AND THEN OBLITERATED 195 00:11:37,297 --> 00:11:40,832 AKHENATEN'S MEMORY AND THAT OF HIS SON AND HEIR, 196 00:11:40,934 --> 00:11:42,067 TUTANKHAMUN. 197 00:11:43,970 --> 00:11:47,372 McMahon: YOU COULD RIGHTLY CALL AKHENATEN THE HERETIC PHARAOH, 198 00:11:47,474 --> 00:11:51,376 BECAUSE HE REJECTS THE OFFICIAL RELIGION, 199 00:11:51,478 --> 00:11:53,878 THE STATE RELIGION OF ANCIENT EGYPT, 200 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:56,347 I MEAN, WHICH WAS HUGELY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE. 201 00:11:56,450 --> 00:11:58,416 I MEAN, THEY GOVERNED THEIR LIVES 202 00:11:58,518 --> 00:12:00,518 BY WHAT THEY THOUGHT THE GODS WANTED. 203 00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:03,321 AKHENATEN COMES ALONG. HE THROWS ALL THAT OUT. 204 00:12:03,423 --> 00:12:07,225 HE GOES TO WAR AGAINST THEBES AND THE TEMPLES OF LUXOR 205 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:08,327 AND MEMPHIS, 206 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:10,762 AGAINST ALL THE PRIESTS, HE SENDS IN HIS SOLDIERS 207 00:12:10,864 --> 00:12:14,966 TO SMASH UP STATUES, TO HACK FACES OFF THE TEMPLES. 208 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:17,102 I MEAN, THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY, 209 00:12:17,204 --> 00:12:20,038 SHORT-LIVED PERIOD IN EGYPTIAN HISTORY. 210 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:24,476 Narrator: BUT CAN THIS MYSTERIOUS PHARAOH REALLY 211 00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:26,111 BE THE HISTORICAL MOSES? 212 00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:29,047 WAS AKHENATEN'S RELIGION 213 00:12:29,149 --> 00:12:31,516 THE FORERUNNER TO THE ABRAHAMIC FAITHS? 214 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,489 IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MOSES WAS INSPIRED BY AKHENATEN IN... 215 00:12:37,591 --> 00:12:40,091 IN SOME WAYS AND RAN WITH IT AND CHANGED IT, 216 00:12:40,193 --> 00:12:42,293 TURNED IT ON ITS HEAD. 217 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:44,996 BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW, 218 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:48,133 AND I THINK THE MONOTHEISTIC THING IS OVERPLAYED. 219 00:12:48,235 --> 00:12:50,155 THE SIMILARITIES ARE OVERPLAYED. 220 00:12:51,972 --> 00:12:57,142 Bianchi: THE ISRAELITES ARE NOT MONOTHEISTS 221 00:12:57,244 --> 00:13:00,879 UNTIL AFTER THEY LEAVE ISRAEL 222 00:13:00,981 --> 00:13:05,216 AND FORM A NATIONAL COVENANT. 223 00:13:05,318 --> 00:13:07,430 SO HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PUTTING THE HORSE 224 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:09,587 IN FRONT OF THE WAGON OR BEHIND THE WAGON, 225 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:12,857 OKAY, HE'S NOT A MONOTHEIST UNTIL THEY GET TO 226 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:13,959 THE PROMISED LAND, 227 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:15,972 AND THEY DON'T GET TO THE PROMISED LAND 228 00:13:15,996 --> 00:13:18,429 UNTIL AFTER MOSES IS DEAD. 229 00:13:18,532 --> 00:13:21,733 SO TRYING TO CONNECT THOSE DOTS JUST IGNORES 230 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:23,935 ALL OF THE EVIDENCE AS WE KNOW IT. 231 00:13:26,907 --> 00:13:29,841 Narrator: EVEN IF AKHENATEN IS NOT THE REAL MOSES, 232 00:13:29,943 --> 00:13:32,744 SOME EXPERTS BELIEVE THERE IS STILL A LINK. 233 00:13:34,581 --> 00:13:36,559 BY RESEARCHING THE BIBLE AND WRITINGS 234 00:13:36,583 --> 00:13:39,384 OF THE ANCIENT JEWISH HISTORIAN JOSEPHUS, 235 00:13:39,486 --> 00:13:43,321 AUTHOR AND HISTORIAN GRAHAM PHILLIPS AGREES THAT AKHENATEN 236 00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:45,056 IS NOT MOSES, 237 00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:47,425 BUT HIS BROTHER, THUTMOSIS. 238 00:13:49,596 --> 00:13:54,098 Phillips: THUTMOSIS WAS A PRINCE IN THE COURT. 239 00:13:54,201 --> 00:13:57,202 THUTMOSIS WAS ALSO A LEADING GENERAL. 240 00:13:57,270 --> 00:13:58,881 HE WAS, IN FACT, IN CHARGE OF 241 00:13:58,905 --> 00:14:02,540 ALL THE KING'S CHARIOT FORCES, AND THUTMOSIS 242 00:14:02,642 --> 00:14:06,878 ALSO ACTED FOR A WHILE AS THE GRAND VIZIER, 243 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:10,148 THE PRIME MINISTER, THE CHIEF MINISTER OF EGYPT. 244 00:14:12,485 --> 00:14:14,886 ALL OF THOSE THINGS 245 00:14:14,988 --> 00:14:18,756 WE ARE TOLD BY JOSEPHUS AND ALSO 246 00:14:18,859 --> 00:14:23,761 PARTLY IN THE BIBLE, APPLIED TO MOSES... MOSES, 247 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:25,330 WE ARE TOLD, 248 00:14:25,432 --> 00:14:30,602 WAS EXILED FROM EGYPT, AND EXACTLY THE SAME THING 249 00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:32,837 HAPPENS TO THUTMOSIS. 250 00:14:32,939 --> 00:14:34,472 HE WAS EXILED FROM EGYPT. 251 00:14:34,574 --> 00:14:36,908 WE KNOW THIS, BECAUSE ARCHAEOLOGISTS HAVE DISCOVERED 252 00:14:37,010 --> 00:14:39,444 A TOMB PREPARED FOR HIM, 253 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:40,778 BUT IT WAS NEVER USED. 254 00:14:41,948 --> 00:14:44,916 AND THE ONLY CONCLUSION THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME TO, BECAUSE 255 00:14:45,018 --> 00:14:46,451 THEY CAN FIND NO RECORDS OF HIM 256 00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:52,090 DYING IN OFFICE, IS THAT HE WAS EXILED. 257 00:14:52,192 --> 00:14:53,291 ONCE AGAIN, 258 00:14:53,393 --> 00:14:57,929 MOSES AND THUTMOSIS ARE LIVING ALMOST IDENTICAL LIVES 259 00:14:58,031 --> 00:15:00,531 AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME. 260 00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:04,736 Narrator: WHETHER OR NOT MOSES WAS, IN FACT, A WELL-DOCUMENTED 261 00:15:04,838 --> 00:15:06,170 EGYPTIAN LEADER, 262 00:15:06,273 --> 00:15:09,574 HIS STORY GOES ON TO TELL OF FANTASTIC MIRACLES. 263 00:15:12,379 --> 00:15:16,080 COULD THE STORY OF THE BURNING BUSH REALLY HAVE HAPPENED? 264 00:15:16,182 --> 00:15:19,717 AND COULD MIND-ALTERING SUBSTANCES HAVE GENERATED 265 00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:21,319 MOSES'S VISIONS? 266 00:15:29,329 --> 00:15:30,940 Narrator: THE HISTORICAL EXISTENCE OF 267 00:15:30,964 --> 00:15:34,532 THE BIBLICAL PROPHET MOSES MIGHT BE DEBATABLE, 268 00:15:34,634 --> 00:15:38,269 BUT AS THE TRADITIONAL STORY GOES, AFTER HE WAS EXILED 269 00:15:38,371 --> 00:15:40,905 IN THE DESERT WILDERNESS FOR DECADES, 270 00:15:41,007 --> 00:15:43,608 A MIRACULOUS ENCOUNTER CHANGED HIS LIFE. 271 00:15:45,612 --> 00:15:47,879 THE STORY GOES THAT ON MOUNT HOREB, 272 00:15:47,981 --> 00:15:53,384 MOSES SAW A BURNING BUSH, WHICH WAS, IN FACT, GOD 273 00:15:53,486 --> 00:15:55,853 SPEAKING TO HIM, TELLING HIM, 274 00:15:55,956 --> 00:16:00,391 INSTRUCTING HIM TO TAKE THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EGYPT 275 00:16:00,493 --> 00:16:01,926 TO THE PROMISED LAND. 276 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,074 McMahon: THE BURNING BUSH IS... IS WHAT 277 00:16:05,098 --> 00:16:07,799 MOVIE MAKERS CALL AN INCITING INCIDENT. 278 00:16:07,901 --> 00:16:09,567 IT'S THAT PLOT POINT. 279 00:16:09,669 --> 00:16:12,737 IT'S THAT MOMENT IN THE STORY OF MOSES 280 00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:15,039 WHEN HE'S GOT TO GO ON HIS QUEST. 281 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:17,709 THE BURNING BUSH IS WHAT MAKES IT ALL HAPPEN. 282 00:16:22,549 --> 00:16:25,616 Narrator: THIS FANTASTIC VISION WAS TRADITIONALLY SEEN AS 283 00:16:25,719 --> 00:16:26,851 A MIRACLE, 284 00:16:26,953 --> 00:16:30,421 BUT SOME BELIEVE THERE IS A RADICAL ALTERNATIVE THEORY. 285 00:16:31,624 --> 00:16:33,336 Doblin: I THINK MOSES COULD VERY WELL HAVE BEEN 286 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,560 USING PSYCHEDELICS... WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, 287 00:16:35,662 --> 00:16:37,622 BUT I THINK IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. 288 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:41,544 Narrator: RICK DOBLIN IS THE FOUNDER 289 00:16:41,568 --> 00:16:44,802 OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR PSYCHEDELIC STUDIES. 290 00:16:44,904 --> 00:16:46,816 HE BELIEVES MOSES COULD HAVE USED 291 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,008 MIND-ALTERING DRUGS TO GENERATE HIS VISIONS. 292 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:57,215 Doblin: SO THE BURNING BUSH, TO ME, REPRESENTS A NOT UNCOMMON 293 00:16:57,317 --> 00:16:58,649 EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE 294 00:16:58,752 --> 00:17:00,363 UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF PSYCHEDELICS, 295 00:17:00,387 --> 00:17:04,522 WHERE THEY LOOK AT NATURE, AND THEY REALIZE THAT IT'S ALIVE. 296 00:17:04,624 --> 00:17:06,290 IT'S GOT ENERGY IN IT. 297 00:17:06,393 --> 00:17:08,893 AND SO THE COURSE OF ENERGY THROUGH 298 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:12,530 THIS PLANT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS FIRE. 299 00:17:15,001 --> 00:17:19,137 AND SO MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT EVENT WAS THAT IT WAS MORE 300 00:17:19,239 --> 00:17:20,571 THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, 301 00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:23,207 MOSES SAW THE INNER FIRE, AND THAT IF WE COULD SEE 302 00:17:23,309 --> 00:17:26,577 THE ENERGY, WE MIGHT INTERPRET IT AS FIRE. 303 00:17:28,348 --> 00:17:32,250 Narrator: IN FACT, NATURE MIGHT PROVIDE ANOTHER EXPLANATION. 304 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:38,356 IN THE AREA WHERE THIS IS SAID TO HAVE OCCURRED, 305 00:17:38,458 --> 00:17:40,591 THERE GROWS ACACIA WOOD. 306 00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:44,429 AND IF YOU BURN ACACIA WOOD OR AN ACACIA TREE BURNS 307 00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:46,575 AND YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO INHALE THE SMOKE, 308 00:17:46,599 --> 00:17:48,733 YOU WILL HALLUCINATE. 309 00:17:49,869 --> 00:17:52,970 Narrator: THIS IS BECAUSE ACACIA BARK 310 00:17:53,073 --> 00:17:56,040 CONTAINS A SUBSTANCE CALLED DMT, 311 00:17:56,142 --> 00:17:58,443 OR DIMETHYLTRYPTAMINE, WHICH IS 312 00:17:58,545 --> 00:18:00,311 A POWERFUL HALLUCINOGENIC. 313 00:18:02,482 --> 00:18:05,016 McMahon: IT'S EVEN SUGGESTED THAT MOSES WAS A KIND OF 314 00:18:05,118 --> 00:18:06,417 SHAMAN-TYPE FIGURE 315 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:09,420 WHO MAY HAVE KNOWN THIS AND SET THE BUSH ALIGHT IN 316 00:18:09,522 --> 00:18:12,323 ORDER TO HAVE THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE, 317 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,592 THAT COMMUNING WITH THE SPIRITUAL 318 00:18:14,694 --> 00:18:17,061 THAT ONLY BASICALLY A NARCOTIC-DRIVEN HIGH 319 00:18:17,163 --> 00:18:18,203 COULD'VE GIVEN HIM. 320 00:18:19,365 --> 00:18:22,233 Narrator: BUT IS THIS REALLY AN OUTLANDISH THEORY? 321 00:18:22,335 --> 00:18:25,736 ARTIFICIAL METHODS TO ACHIEVE SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT 322 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,238 HAVE BEEN USED BY CULTURES 323 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:30,208 ALL ACROSS THE WORLD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. 324 00:18:32,579 --> 00:18:34,912 Doblin: I THINK THEY'RE... PSYCHEDELICS WERE SEEN 325 00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:36,881 AS POWERFUL TOOLS TO 326 00:18:36,983 --> 00:18:38,427 HELP US GET OUT OF OUR, SORT OF, 327 00:18:38,451 --> 00:18:41,486 EGO IDENTIFICATION, OUR SENSE OF SELF, 328 00:18:41,588 --> 00:18:44,589 AND THAT THERE HAS BEEN A REASON FOR PEOPLE TO DO 329 00:18:44,691 --> 00:18:46,657 VARIOUS THINGS IN TERMS OF 330 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:50,795 DRUMMING OR FASTING, VISION QUESTS, 331 00:18:50,897 --> 00:18:55,500 AND SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT PSYCHEDELICS COULD BE 332 00:18:55,602 --> 00:18:58,269 SOMETHING THAT WAS APPRECIATED BY MOSES 333 00:18:58,371 --> 00:19:00,304 AND PEOPLE AROUND THAT TIME. 334 00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:05,916 Picknett: THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A COMPLETELY PIVOTAL MOMENT 335 00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:07,645 IN SEVERAL GREAT RELIGIONS, 336 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:10,915 AND IT MIGHT ALL HAVE BEEN DUE TO BURNING BARK. 337 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:15,720 Bianchi: SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BIBLICAL ACCOUNT 338 00:19:15,822 --> 00:19:18,990 TO SUGGEST THAT HE'S EATING OR... 339 00:19:19,092 --> 00:19:21,959 INHALING OR... UH... 340 00:19:22,061 --> 00:19:23,427 HALLUCINOGENS, 341 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:26,097 SO I... I TAKE 342 00:19:26,199 --> 00:19:27,598 SCRIPTURE LITERALLY. 343 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:29,133 HE'S WATCHING A SLOT. 344 00:19:29,235 --> 00:19:30,235 HE SEES SOMETHING. 345 00:19:30,270 --> 00:19:31,602 HE GOES OVER TO INVESTIGATE 346 00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:34,972 AND GETS THE CONVERSATION WITH THE ALMIGHTY. 347 00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:39,911 Narrator: ASIDE FROM TALKING TO GOD IN THE BURNING BUSH, 348 00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:41,423 THERE ARE STILL OTHER MIRACLES 349 00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:44,182 MOSES IS SAID TO HAVE PERFORMED, SUCH AS PARTING 350 00:19:44,284 --> 00:19:45,917 THE RED SEA. 351 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:47,485 IT IS NOT SURPRISING THAT SUCH 352 00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:51,422 AN UNBELIEVABLE TALE RAISES DEBATE AMONG SCHOLARS. 353 00:19:54,627 --> 00:19:58,429 THE MIRACULOUS CROSSING OF THE RED SEA HAS TO BE 354 00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:01,098 THE MOST... ONE OF THE MOST STUNNING, INCREDIBLE EVENTS 355 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:03,034 IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. 356 00:20:03,136 --> 00:20:06,637 IT'S THE FACT THAT MOSES IS ABLE TO LEAD 357 00:20:06,739 --> 00:20:08,706 THE JEWISH PEOPLE, THE ISRAELITES, 358 00:20:08,808 --> 00:20:11,909 OUT OF EGYPT THROUGH WHAT SEEMS LIKE AN IMPOSSIBLE 359 00:20:12,011 --> 00:20:13,110 STRETCH OF WATER. 360 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:16,681 AND THEN, AS THE EGYPTIANS COME CHASING AFTER THEM, 361 00:20:16,783 --> 00:20:20,585 GOD CLOSES THE SEA IN ON PHARAOH AND HIS HUNDREDS OF 362 00:20:20,687 --> 00:20:22,220 CHARIOTS, DROWNING THEM ALL. 363 00:20:24,991 --> 00:20:27,692 Narrator: BUT COULD THIS REALLY HAVE HAPPENED IN THE RED SEA 364 00:20:27,794 --> 00:20:28,794 WE KNOW TODAY? 365 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,707 THE VERY NAME OF THE BODY OF WATER 366 00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:35,233 MOSES CROSSED MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKENLY IDENTIFIED 367 00:20:35,335 --> 00:20:36,335 FOR CENTURIES. 368 00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:42,106 I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE THE MISTRANSLATION OF "RED SEA" 369 00:20:42,208 --> 00:20:44,119 COMES FROM... IT'S IN HEBREW, YAM SUPH, 370 00:20:44,143 --> 00:20:45,309 WHICH IS REED SEA. 371 00:20:46,946 --> 00:20:50,047 IT MAY HAVE BEAN THAT SOMEONE WROTE "REED SEA," 372 00:20:50,183 --> 00:20:52,583 AND THEN IT WAS MISSED OUT, 373 00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:54,597 THE E GOT DROPPED, AND ACTUALLY, IN HEBREW, 374 00:20:54,621 --> 00:20:55,831 THAT HAPPENS QUITE FREQUENTLY 375 00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:59,090 THAT MANUSCRIPTS WOULD HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY WRITTEN DOWN 376 00:20:59,192 --> 00:21:01,859 BY HAND, AND LITTLE ERRORS WILL CREEP IN. 377 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:05,730 I THINK RED SEA WILL BE PRETTY HARD TO GET RID OF NOW. 378 00:21:05,832 --> 00:21:09,133 IT'S PRETTY MUCH EMBEDDED IN HOW WE TELL THE STORY. 379 00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:12,136 Narrator: REGARDLESS OF WHETHER MOSES CROSSED THE RED SEA 380 00:21:12,238 --> 00:21:14,572 OR THE REED SEA, 381 00:21:14,674 --> 00:21:18,075 CAN SCIENCE PROVED HE WAS CAPABLE OF PARTING THE WAVES? 382 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,221 Narrator: THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT MOSES LED HIS FOLLOWERS 383 00:21:30,323 --> 00:21:33,624 TO SAFETY BY PARTING THE WATERS OF THE RED SEA. 384 00:21:34,761 --> 00:21:37,762 BUT COULD THE FANTASTICAL EVENT REALLY HAVE HAPPENED IN 385 00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:41,966 THE RED SEA WE KNOW TODAY OR ANOTHER NEARBY BODY OF WATER? 386 00:21:43,569 --> 00:21:45,903 SIMON BOXALL IS AN OCEANOGRAPHER 387 00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:49,073 FROM SOUTHAMPTON UNIVERSITY IN ENGLAND. 388 00:21:49,175 --> 00:21:52,176 HE EVALUATES THE MODERN SCIENTIFIC IDEAS 389 00:21:52,278 --> 00:21:54,578 THAT EXPLAIN THIS MYSTERIOUS SEA CROSSING. 390 00:21:54,681 --> 00:22:01,786 ¶ 391 00:22:01,888 --> 00:22:05,122 Boxall: THERE ARE MANY THEORIES THAT GO WITH THIS STORY. 392 00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:07,491 ONE IS THAT AROUND 393 00:22:07,593 --> 00:22:11,696 ABOUT THE SAME TIME, WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS A HUGE EXPLOSION, 394 00:22:11,798 --> 00:22:15,566 VOLCANIC EXPLOSION, ERUPTION, ON SANTORINI, 395 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:18,903 AND THAT BASICALLY CAUSED A HUGE TSUNAMI. 396 00:22:19,005 --> 00:22:21,472 AND ONE THEORY IS THAT IT WAS A TSUNAMI THAT 397 00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:24,442 CAME AT JUST THE RIGHT TIME TO ALLOW THEM TO CROSS. 398 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:28,346 NOW THE THEORY THERE IS FLAWED, IT'S FLAWED FOR TWO REASONS. 399 00:22:28,448 --> 00:22:31,315 ONE IS, IF YOU LOOK AT MODELS OF THE TSUNAMI THAT WOULD HAVE 400 00:22:31,417 --> 00:22:33,718 OCCURRED, THEN THE ISLAND CHAIN, 401 00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:36,754 CRETE, TO THE SOUTH OFF SANTORINI, WOULD HAVE PROTECTED 402 00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:39,256 THE EGYPTIAN COAST, AND THE BIGGEST TSUNAMI THAT 403 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,536 WOULD'VE GOT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT A METER, 404 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,159 A METER AND 1/2, 405 00:22:42,228 --> 00:22:44,862 AND WHEN A TSUNAMI HITS, 406 00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:48,265 THE TIDE OR THE WATER CAN RECEDE FOR A SHORT WHILE 407 00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:50,501 AND THEN COME BACK IN AGAIN. 408 00:22:50,603 --> 00:22:53,204 THAT'S GREAT... THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, 409 00:22:53,306 --> 00:22:55,466 THAT IT ONLY HAPPENS FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, 410 00:22:55,508 --> 00:22:58,175 AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN ENTIRE ARMY 411 00:22:58,277 --> 00:23:02,546 OR POPULATION ACROSS THAT SORT OF CAUSEWAY IN THAT PERIOD. 412 00:23:04,016 --> 00:23:06,217 A SECOND THEORY THAT'S PUT DOWN IS THAT 413 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,353 THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT STRONG WINDS FROM THE EAST. 414 00:23:10,823 --> 00:23:13,758 THE IDEA THAT THE WIND LITERALLY BLOWS THE SEA 415 00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:15,893 AND CREATES A PILEUP SOMEWHERE, 416 00:23:15,995 --> 00:23:18,273 WHICH MEANS YOU THEN GET A SORT OF GAP SOMEWHERE ELSE, 417 00:23:18,297 --> 00:23:20,057 IS FLAWED... IT'S FLAWED 418 00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:22,433 BECAUSE THE EFFECT ISN'T THAT GREAT. 419 00:23:22,535 --> 00:23:24,835 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SUDDENLY CLEAR A CAUSEWAY 420 00:23:24,937 --> 00:23:26,137 AS A RESULT OF THAT SETDOWN. 421 00:23:29,809 --> 00:23:32,510 Narrator: BACK IN HIS LAB, SIMON DEMONSTRATES HOW 422 00:23:32,612 --> 00:23:35,413 HE BELIEVES THE SEA CROSSING REALLY TOOK PLACE. 423 00:23:40,019 --> 00:23:42,586 Boxall: I THINK THE REASON THAT THE SEAS PARTED 424 00:23:42,688 --> 00:23:44,955 WAS BECAUSE OF A SEICHE EFFECT. 425 00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:46,935 NOW THAT SOUNDS VERY TECHNICAL, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S 426 00:23:46,959 --> 00:23:49,660 SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AROUND THE WORLD EVERY SINGLE DAY, 427 00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:51,061 AND IT'S... 428 00:23:51,164 --> 00:23:55,199 AN EVENT HITTING THE NATURAL FREQUENCY OF A BASIN. 429 00:23:55,301 --> 00:23:58,335 THAT ALSO SOUNDS COMPLEX, BUT WE'VE DONE IT AS KIDS. 430 00:23:58,438 --> 00:23:59,670 IF WE LAY BACK IN THE BATH 431 00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:01,583 AND ROCK BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS AT JUST 432 00:24:01,607 --> 00:24:02,873 THE RIGHT SPEED, 433 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:04,520 THEN WE SUDDENLY TAKE THE WATER WITH US, 434 00:24:04,544 --> 00:24:06,555 AND WE CAN ACTUALLY EFFECTIVELY EMPTY HALF A TON 435 00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:09,079 OF WATER ONTO THE FLOOR VERY EFFICIENTLY. 436 00:24:09,182 --> 00:24:10,793 YOU COULD DO THAT FROM SPLASHING, 437 00:24:10,817 --> 00:24:13,517 AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE HITTING THE CRITICAL FREQUENCY, 438 00:24:13,619 --> 00:24:16,153 AND WE CAN SEE THAT IN A VERY SIMPLE EXPERIMENT HERE. 439 00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:19,356 WE HAVE A BOTTLE OF WATER, AND THAT BOTTLE OF WATER, 440 00:24:19,459 --> 00:24:21,403 YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT IS YOUR RED SEA, 441 00:24:21,427 --> 00:24:24,228 AND ACTUALLY, I CAN SORT OF CREATE DISTURBANCES, 442 00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:26,341 AND I CAN CREATE WAVES... IT SPLASHES AROUND A BIT. 443 00:24:26,365 --> 00:24:27,798 YEAH, STORMS HAPPEN. 444 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,678 BUT ACTUALLY, IF I HIT THE RIGHT FREQUENCY, 445 00:24:29,702 --> 00:24:31,413 IF I CAN JUST FIND THE FREQUENCY IN THAT BOTTLE, 446 00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:34,939 AND I MOVE IT VERY GENTLY, SIDE TO SIDE, THEN EFFECTIVELY, 447 00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:38,242 I'M LIKE THE CHILD IN THE BATH, EMPTYING THE BATH OUT. 448 00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:41,879 AND SUDDENLY, YOU'VE GONE FROM A TIDE OUT HERE, 449 00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:44,782 WHICH IS MAYBE TWO OR THREE FEET, 450 00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:48,486 TO A TIDE IN HERE, WHICH COULD BE 60 FEET. 451 00:24:48,588 --> 00:24:50,332 NOW THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE RED SEA, 452 00:24:50,356 --> 00:24:53,390 BUT WE KNOW THE FACT THAT THE TIDE AT THE TOP OF 453 00:24:53,493 --> 00:24:55,826 THE CHANNEL OF THE RED SEA, 454 00:24:55,928 --> 00:24:59,830 THE SUEZ CHANNEL, GO FROM ONE OR TWO FEET OUTSIDE, 455 00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:02,077 INSIDE THE CHANNEL, AT THE TOP OF THE CHANNEL, 456 00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:04,068 THEY GO ALMOST 15 FEET. 457 00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:07,838 THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE... IF YOU COME FROM A CULTURE THAT 458 00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:10,140 ONLY SEES TIDES ON THE MEDITERRANEAN ALONG 459 00:25:10,243 --> 00:25:11,775 THE RED SEA COAST OF 460 00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:13,344 A FEW... ONE OR TWO FEET, 461 00:25:13,446 --> 00:25:15,713 YOU'RE NOT PREPARED FOR THESE HUGE TIDES, 462 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:18,415 WHICH ARE OVER TEN TIMES AS BIG. 463 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,719 AND THAT BIG FOUR-METER TIDE 464 00:25:21,821 --> 00:25:24,221 WAS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TO WIPE OUT AN ARMY. 465 00:25:26,526 --> 00:25:28,470 Narrator: WHILE NATURE MAY HAVE ALLOWED THE HEBREWS 466 00:25:28,494 --> 00:25:29,994 TO CROSS THE SEA, 467 00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:32,363 SIMON THINKS MOSES MAY POSSIBLY HAVE 468 00:25:32,465 --> 00:25:34,164 HAD AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY. 469 00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:41,672 Boxall: WHAT MOSES MIGHT HAVE DONE, IF HE'S OBSERVANT 470 00:25:41,774 --> 00:25:43,874 AND CANNY, WAS OBSERVE 471 00:25:43,976 --> 00:25:46,744 THAT THE TIDES EXISTED, THE TIDES WERE HIGH, 472 00:25:46,846 --> 00:25:50,314 THAT ACTUALLY HE HAD A NARROW WINDOW, BUT ENOUGH OF A WINDOW, 473 00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:52,316 TO LEAD HIS PEOPLE TO SAFETY 474 00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:53,795 AND TO ACTUALLY NOT ONLY DO THAT, 475 00:25:53,819 --> 00:25:57,488 BUT THEN INUNDATE THE PURSUING ARMY WITH 476 00:25:57,623 --> 00:25:59,657 AN INCOMING TIDE. 477 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:01,325 AND SO... 478 00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:03,394 WAS MOSES A MAGICIAN? 479 00:26:03,496 --> 00:26:05,195 NO, BUT LIKE MANY MAGICIANS, 480 00:26:05,298 --> 00:26:07,464 HE WAS CLEVER AND APPLIED SCIENCE. 481 00:26:12,605 --> 00:26:14,905 Narrator: YET SOME SPECULATE THAT MOSES ACTUALLY 482 00:26:15,007 --> 00:26:18,943 WAS A CONJURER WITH SUPERNATURAL POWERS. 483 00:26:19,045 --> 00:26:22,413 WITCH, PRIESTESS, AND MAGICIAN, CARRIE KIRKPATRICK, 484 00:26:22,515 --> 00:26:25,015 BELIEVES MOSES'S EGYPTIAN UPBRINGING 485 00:26:25,117 --> 00:26:27,785 MAY HAVE GIVEN HIM A GROUNDING IN MAGIC. 486 00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:33,368 Kirkpatrick: IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT MOSES WAS 487 00:26:33,392 --> 00:26:36,260 A MAGICIAN IN EGYPTIAN NOBLE CIRCLES. 488 00:26:36,362 --> 00:26:38,862 IT WAS NOT A BIG DEAL TO LEARN ABOUT MAGIC. 489 00:26:38,965 --> 00:26:40,142 IT WAS PART OF THE CULTURE. 490 00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:42,244 IT WOULD BE PART OF THE EVERYDAY EDUCATION. 491 00:26:42,268 --> 00:26:45,936 SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT ALL OF THESE MIRACLES THAT WE SEE 492 00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:47,571 THAT HAVE BEEN ATTRIBUTED TO GOD 493 00:26:47,673 --> 00:26:51,475 WERE ACTUALLY SPELLS CAST BY MOSES HIMSELF, 494 00:26:51,577 --> 00:26:54,912 USING THE TRAINING THAT HE HAD BEEN GIVEN IN EGYPT. 495 00:26:59,485 --> 00:27:02,453 Narrator: THE SUSPICION THAT MOSES MAY HAVE POSSESSED MAGICAL 496 00:27:02,555 --> 00:27:06,824 OR SUPERNATURAL ABILITIES WAS AMPLIFIED WITH THE DISCOVERY OF 497 00:27:06,926 --> 00:27:11,095 THE SIXTH AND SEVENTH BOOKS OF MOSES, A COLLECTION OF HIDDEN 498 00:27:11,197 --> 00:27:14,865 TEXTS ALLEGEDLY WRITTEN BY THE MAN HIMSELF. 499 00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:21,505 McMahon: THE SIXTH AND SEVENTH BOOKS OF MOSES ARE 500 00:27:21,607 --> 00:27:25,442 PARTICULARLY MYSTERIOUS, BECAUSE THEY TRY AND EXPLAIN 501 00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:27,244 THROUGH MAGIC 502 00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:30,581 HOW THE MIRACLES IN THE STORY OF EXODUS HAPPENED. 503 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:37,287 THESE BOOKS APPEAR ABOUT 200 YEARS AGO IN GERMANY, AND THEN 504 00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:41,225 IMMIGRANTS TAKE THEM TO THE UNITED STATES, WHERE, 505 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:43,494 FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY'RE ADOPTED QUITE 506 00:27:43,596 --> 00:27:46,664 ENTHUSIASTICALLY BY THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES, 507 00:27:46,766 --> 00:27:49,266 RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES, AND IN THE CARIBBEAN. 508 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:52,770 AND MANY OF THE SPELLS, A LOT OF THE MAGIC IN THOSE BOOKS, 509 00:27:52,872 --> 00:27:56,774 ARE USED, ACTUALLY IN PRACTICAL CURES BACK IN THOSE DAYS 510 00:27:56,876 --> 00:27:58,475 TO TREAT PEOPLE. 511 00:28:00,579 --> 00:28:02,491 Kirkpatrick: WE CAN'T REALLY KNOW FOR SURE 512 00:28:02,515 --> 00:28:03,947 THAT MOSES WROTE THE SIXTH 513 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:06,150 AND THE SEVENTH BOOKS, HOWEVER, 514 00:28:06,252 --> 00:28:08,952 YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOOK OF EXODUS THAT THE USE OF MAGIC 515 00:28:09,055 --> 00:28:10,454 WAS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN. 516 00:28:10,556 --> 00:28:12,389 SO YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT IF IT 517 00:28:12,491 --> 00:28:14,625 WASN'T A PROBLEM OR REGARDED AS A PROBLEM. 518 00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:15,959 IT'S A BIT LIKE PROHIBITION. 519 00:28:16,062 --> 00:28:18,582 THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT IT IN IF ALCOHOL WASN'T A PROBLEM. 520 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,178 Narrator: ASIDE FROM THE MIRACLES OF MOSES, 521 00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,135 ARE THERE MORE CONCRETE THINGS 522 00:28:25,237 --> 00:28:27,237 THAT HISTORY CAN PROVE, 523 00:28:27,339 --> 00:28:30,708 SUCH AS THE TRUE LOCATION OF MOUNT SINAI? 524 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:34,178 AND COULD ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE SHOW THAT THE SPOT 525 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,580 VENERATED BY PILGRIMS FOR CENTURIES 526 00:28:36,682 --> 00:28:39,516 ISN'T THE LEGENDARY SITE AFTER ALL? 527 00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:54,031 Narrator: WHO WAS THE REAL MOSES? 528 00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:56,200 IS THERE A HISTORICAL FIGURE BEHIND 529 00:28:56,302 --> 00:28:59,670 THE RELIGIOUS LEGEND AND TALES OF FANTASTIC MIRACLES? 530 00:29:01,273 --> 00:29:02,617 WHILE IT IS HARD TO UNEARTH 531 00:29:02,641 --> 00:29:05,809 CONCRETE EVIDENCE FOR HIS EXPLOITS AND DEEDS, 532 00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:08,912 CAN WE PINPOINT THE LOCATIONS HE'S ASSOCIATED WITH? 533 00:29:10,015 --> 00:29:13,150 ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MUST BE MOUNT SINAI. 534 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:20,824 McMahon: MOUNT SINAI HAS THIS HUGE SIGNIFICANCE, OBVIOUSLY, 535 00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:22,626 FOR JEWS, CHRISTIANS, 536 00:29:22,728 --> 00:29:27,765 MUSLIMS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOSES GETS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. 537 00:29:29,802 --> 00:29:32,970 THAT'S WHERE HE MEETS GOD, AND GOD GIVES HIM 538 00:29:33,072 --> 00:29:35,873 THE LAWS THAT ARE GONNA GOVERN HIS PEOPLE, 539 00:29:35,975 --> 00:29:38,542 THE BELIEVERS. MOSES COMES DOWN, 540 00:29:38,644 --> 00:29:41,345 OF COURSE, FINDS THE ISRAELITES WORSHIPPING A GOLDEN CALF, 541 00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:43,358 SMASHES THEM ANGRILY, HAS TO GO 542 00:29:43,382 --> 00:29:45,649 BACK UP THE MOUNTAIN AND GET THEM ALL OVER AGAIN. 543 00:29:45,751 --> 00:29:49,887 BUT IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT THIS MOUNTAIN IS SO SACRED. 544 00:29:54,026 --> 00:29:55,937 Narrator: FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, 545 00:29:55,961 --> 00:29:58,228 IT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED THAT JEBEL-MUSA 546 00:29:58,330 --> 00:30:01,598 IN THE SINAI PENINSULA OF EGYPT IS THE LEGENDARY 547 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:02,700 MOUNT SINAI. 548 00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:06,103 BUT IS THIS CORRECT? 549 00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:08,806 Phillips: INTERESTINGLY, THE BIBLE DOESN'T TELL US 550 00:30:08,908 --> 00:30:11,141 DIRECTLY WHERE MOUNT SINAI IS. 551 00:30:11,243 --> 00:30:13,610 IT IS JUST SOMEWHERE IN THE SINAI WILDERNESS, 552 00:30:13,712 --> 00:30:17,514 WHICH IS A HUGE EXPANSE EAST OF THE RED SEA. 553 00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:23,687 THE EMPEROR CONSTANTINE DECIDED IT WAS A PLACE 554 00:30:23,789 --> 00:30:26,023 NOW CALLED JEBEL-MUSA, 555 00:30:26,125 --> 00:30:31,061 MEANING THE MOUNT OF MOSES, WHICH IS IN EASTERN EGYPT 556 00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:33,630 WITHIN THE SINAI WILDERNESS. 557 00:30:33,732 --> 00:30:37,334 AND HE CAME UP WITH THAT IDEA, BECAUSE HIS MOTHER HAD HAD 558 00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:40,571 A DREAM THAT THAT'S WHERE IT WAS, AND A MONASTERY WAS 559 00:30:40,673 --> 00:30:43,307 FOUNDED THERE, BUT THERE'S NO HISTORICAL 560 00:30:43,409 --> 00:30:45,742 OR ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT. 561 00:30:50,115 --> 00:30:52,416 Narrator: SINCE THE MID-19th CENTURY, 562 00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:54,151 DEBATE HAS RAGED BETWEEN 563 00:30:54,253 --> 00:30:57,688 SCHOLARS ON WHERE THIS HOLY SITE ACTUALLY IS, 564 00:30:57,823 --> 00:31:00,257 WITH OVER TEN POSSIBLE LOCATIONS GIVEN. 565 00:31:01,727 --> 00:31:02,960 AFTER EXCAVATIONS BY 566 00:31:03,062 --> 00:31:06,263 THE ENGLISH ARCHAEOLOGIST SIR FLINDERS PETRIE 567 00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:08,332 IN THE 1900s, 568 00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:10,367 SERABIT EL-KHADIM 569 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:12,669 HAS EMERGED AS A LIKELY CANDIDATE. 570 00:31:15,541 --> 00:31:20,444 SERABIT EL-KHADIM IS THE 600-POUND GORILLA IN 571 00:31:20,546 --> 00:31:23,680 THE STORY OF MOSES THAT NO ONE IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT. 572 00:31:26,185 --> 00:31:27,317 I'VE BEEN THERE. 573 00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:31,054 IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PLACE, EXCAVATED BY PETRIE, WHO FOUND 574 00:31:31,156 --> 00:31:34,625 LOTS OF TEMPLES OF HATHOR, 575 00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:39,096 THE BULL GOD THAT MOSES IS KNOWN TO HAVE BANNED, 576 00:31:39,198 --> 00:31:44,101 BUT ALSO, WRITING IN SEMITIC LANGUAGE, 577 00:31:44,203 --> 00:31:47,237 WHICH YOU'D STILL SEE ON THE TEMPLE WALLS, 578 00:31:47,339 --> 00:31:49,339 PROTO-SEMITIC, 579 00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:54,244 A LANGUAGE THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. 580 00:31:56,382 --> 00:31:58,815 Narrator: EXCAVATIONS AT SERABIT EL-KHADIM 581 00:31:58,918 --> 00:32:01,919 ALSO REVEALED POSSIBLE ANIMAL SACRIFICES 582 00:32:02,021 --> 00:32:03,553 AND RITUAL WASHING, 583 00:32:03,656 --> 00:32:06,823 RELIGIOUS PRACTICES NOT COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH 584 00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:10,827 EGYPTIAN WORSHIP BUT HEBREW CEREMONIES. 585 00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:12,807 IN ADDITION, THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR 586 00:32:12,831 --> 00:32:16,033 THE MINING OF MATERIALS IMPORTANT TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE. 587 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:20,370 Gough: THERE'S EVIDENCE OF JEWISH WORSHIP 588 00:32:20,472 --> 00:32:23,173 AT A PLACE WHERE THERE SHOULDN'T BE. 589 00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:26,143 THERE'S EVIDENCE OF THE CREATION OF 590 00:32:26,245 --> 00:32:28,946 THE JEWISH ALPHABET HERE. 591 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:34,751 AND THIRDLY, THERE'S EVIDENCE OF ARTISANS, OF MINING OF 592 00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:36,053 TURQUOISE AND COPPER, 593 00:32:36,155 --> 00:32:40,290 THE KINDS OF PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE CONSTRUCTED 594 00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:43,226 THE TEN COMMANDMENTS AND TABLETS. 595 00:32:45,431 --> 00:32:47,331 AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, 596 00:32:47,433 --> 00:32:51,668 THERE'S ALSO TABLETS SHAPED LIKE THE IMAGE WE'RE TOLD 597 00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:54,371 THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WERE WRITTEN IN. 598 00:32:57,543 --> 00:33:01,878 ALL THE SCHOLARS ARGUE THAT MOSES WOULD HAVE STOPPED THERE 599 00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:05,649 ON HIS PATH OF THE EXODUS TO THE PROMISED LAND, 600 00:33:05,751 --> 00:33:09,853 BUT WHAT VERY FEW WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS THAT 601 00:33:09,955 --> 00:33:13,757 THIS COULD VERY WELL HAVE BEEN THE TRUE MOUNT SINAI. 602 00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:19,763 ¶ 603 00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:22,199 Narrator: BUT AUTHOR AND HISTORIAN GRAHAM PHILLIPS 604 00:33:22,301 --> 00:33:24,568 HAS ANOTHER RADICAL IDEA. 605 00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:27,571 HE BELIEVES THE HISTORICAL MOUNT SINAI IS 606 00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:31,675 ACTUALLY FOUND 150 MILES AWAY IN JORDAN, 607 00:33:31,777 --> 00:33:33,977 NEAR THE ANCIENT CITY OF PETRA. 608 00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:42,085 Phillips: WHEN I GOT THERE, I FOUND SO MANY THINGS 609 00:33:42,187 --> 00:33:45,455 THAT TIED UP WITH THE DESCRIPTION OF MOUNT SINAI 610 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:48,158 IN THE BIBLE THAT I WAS LITERALLY, 611 00:33:48,260 --> 00:33:51,161 I DON'T KNOW, FLABBERGASTED, KNOCKED OFF MY FEET, 612 00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:54,931 TO HOW MANY SIMILARITIES THERE WHERE BETWEEN THIS PLACE 613 00:33:55,034 --> 00:33:56,433 AND THE BIBLICAL DESCRIPTION 614 00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:59,803 THAT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY OVERLOOKED 615 00:33:59,905 --> 00:34:01,938 BY PREVIOUS HISTORIANS. 616 00:34:04,009 --> 00:34:07,144 Gough: THE THEORY THAT GRAHAM PHILLIPS HAS PUT FORWARD, 617 00:34:07,246 --> 00:34:12,816 THAT MOUNT SINAI IS ACTUALLY IN PETRA, IS VERY VIABLE, 618 00:34:12,918 --> 00:34:18,155 AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE WHOLE VALLEY AROUND PETRA IS WITHIN 619 00:34:18,257 --> 00:34:23,860 THE RIGHT DISTANCE OF WHERE THE EXODUS STARTED FROM IN EGYPT. 620 00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:29,266 HIS BROTHER, AARON, IS BURIED THERE, 621 00:34:29,368 --> 00:34:31,902 AND ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN 622 00:34:32,004 --> 00:34:35,138 THAT GRAHAM SUGGESTS IS MOUNT SINAI, 623 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:38,542 THERE'S ACTUALLY ARCHITECTURE, THERE'S TEMPLES, 624 00:34:38,644 --> 00:34:43,480 THERE'S PILLARS, JUST LIKE ARE STATED IN THE BIBLE. 625 00:34:44,817 --> 00:34:48,185 McMahon: CLUES THERE INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THE VALLEY 626 00:34:48,287 --> 00:34:51,288 IN WHICH PETRA IS BASED IS CALLED THE WADI MUSA, 627 00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:55,292 THE VALLEY OF MOSES, AND THERE IS A ROCK, THE AIN MUSA, 628 00:34:55,394 --> 00:34:57,727 THE ROCK OF MOSES, WHERE THE WATER IS SAID 629 00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:59,641 TO HAVE SPOUTED OUT, AND IT WOULD 630 00:34:59,665 --> 00:35:02,165 MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE FOR PETRA TO BE 631 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:05,669 THE LOCATION AS A MAJOR TRADE AND COMMERCIAL HUB BACK IN 632 00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:07,337 THOSE DAYS THAN SOMEWHERE, 633 00:35:07,473 --> 00:35:10,340 SOME DUSTY HOLE, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SINAI PENINSULA. 634 00:35:12,077 --> 00:35:14,077 Narrator: YET MOSES'S MOST IMPORTANT 635 00:35:14,113 --> 00:35:16,613 LEGACY IS GIVING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 636 00:35:16,715 --> 00:35:18,582 TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE. 637 00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:20,817 WHILE THE INSCRIBED TABLETS MOST LIKELY 638 00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,653 HAVE NOT SURVIVED TO MODERN TIMES, 639 00:35:23,755 --> 00:35:26,323 COULD THEIR ORIGINS BE LESS MIRACULOUS 640 00:35:26,425 --> 00:35:28,345 THAN THE FAMOUS STORY TELLS US? 641 00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:39,013 Narrator: FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, 642 00:35:39,037 --> 00:35:41,071 THE BIBLICAL FIGURE OF MOSES HAS 643 00:35:41,173 --> 00:35:44,007 BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH AMAZING MIRACLES, 644 00:35:44,109 --> 00:35:46,510 WITH SOME ALLEGING HE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE POSSESSED 645 00:35:46,612 --> 00:35:47,811 MAGICAL POWERS. 646 00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:53,250 WHETHER MIRACLE OR MAGIC, 647 00:35:53,352 --> 00:35:56,520 HE HAD ONE INDISPENSABLE POSSESSION... 648 00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:57,654 HIS STAFF. 649 00:35:58,724 --> 00:36:00,590 Phillips: AGAIN AND AGAIN, 650 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:04,461 MOSES IS ASSOCIATED WITH A MIRACULOUS STAFF. 651 00:36:07,032 --> 00:36:09,900 WHEN HE FIRST ENCOUNTERS GOD AT THE BURNING BUSH, 652 00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:14,104 HE HAS THIS STAFF WITH HIM, AND GOD SAYS THAT HE WOULD IMBUE 653 00:36:14,206 --> 00:36:16,940 THIS STAFF WITH MIRACULOUS POWERS. 654 00:36:18,043 --> 00:36:21,111 Kirkpatrick: A MAGICIAN ALWAYS HAS A WAND OR A STAFF. 655 00:36:21,213 --> 00:36:22,312 IT'S LIKE A CONDUIT 656 00:36:22,414 --> 00:36:26,049 FOR FOCUSING HIS WILL AND CONTROLLING THE ENERGIES 657 00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:27,295 AND MAKING THINGS HAPPEN, 658 00:36:27,319 --> 00:36:30,253 EFFECTING CHANGE... IT'S A KIND OF DIRECTIONAL TOOL. 659 00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:33,557 EVEN TODAY, DRUIDS, MAGICIANS, WILL USE 660 00:36:33,659 --> 00:36:35,959 A WAND OR A STAFF IN THEIR PRACTICE. 661 00:36:39,498 --> 00:36:42,299 Narrator: INTRIGUINGLY, GRAHAM PHILLIPS BELIEVES 662 00:36:42,401 --> 00:36:46,203 HE KNOWS WHERE THIS MYTHICAL RELIC IS KEPT TODAY. 663 00:36:46,305 --> 00:36:50,540 HIS THEORY RELIES ON MOSES'S LINK TO SNAKES. 664 00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:54,911 IT'S SAID THAT MOSES'S STAFF WAS ONCE TURNED INTO A SERPENT, 665 00:36:55,013 --> 00:36:59,015 AND AN INTRIGUING SNAKE-THEMED MONUMENT HAS BEEN DISCOVERED 666 00:36:59,117 --> 00:37:00,117 AT PETRA. 667 00:37:03,155 --> 00:37:05,722 Phillips: IN THE MID-1800s, 668 00:37:05,824 --> 00:37:08,725 A CAVE NEAR THE SNAKE MONUMENT WAS 669 00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,494 EXCAVATED BY A COUPLE OF ENGLISH ARCHAEOLOGISTS 670 00:37:11,597 --> 00:37:13,496 AND THEY FOUND A TOMB THERE. 671 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,833 THERE WAS NO BODY ANY LONGER IN IT, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE A FEW 672 00:37:16,935 --> 00:37:18,335 ITEMS REMAINING, 673 00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:22,906 THE MOST IMPORTANT OF WHICH WAS A STAFF WITH EGYPTIAN 674 00:37:23,008 --> 00:37:27,143 HIEROGLYPHICS ON IT, AN EGYPTIAN STAFF 675 00:37:27,246 --> 00:37:29,879 AT THE CITY OF PETRA 676 00:37:29,982 --> 00:37:31,948 IN SOUTHERN JORDAN. 677 00:37:35,721 --> 00:37:36,831 WHAT WAS IT DOING THERE? 678 00:37:36,855 --> 00:37:40,757 CLEARLY, SOMEBODY FROM EGYPT HAD BEEN BURIED 679 00:37:40,859 --> 00:37:43,526 IN THIS TOMB BELOW THE SNAKE MONUMENT. 680 00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:50,166 NOW, IF MY THEORY IS ALL RIGHT, 681 00:37:50,269 --> 00:37:53,036 THEN THE SNAKE MONUMENT 682 00:37:53,138 --> 00:37:58,308 IS ERECTED IN MEMORY OF MOSES, AND THIS TOMB COULD BE 683 00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:01,278 THE TOMB OF AN HISTORICAL MOSES. 684 00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:06,861 Narrator: SO COULD THIS DISCOVERY REALLY BE 685 00:38:06,885 --> 00:38:08,785 MOSES'S LEGENDARY STAFF? 686 00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:12,055 FOR SUCH A POSSIBLY IMPORTANT ARTIFACT FOR 687 00:38:12,157 --> 00:38:14,557 THREE OF THE WORLD'S MAIN RELIGIONS, 688 00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:18,028 ITS HOME TODAY IS IN A QUIET CORNER OF ENGLAND. 689 00:38:20,032 --> 00:38:24,200 THE STAFF OF MOSES, TODAY, IS HERE 690 00:38:24,303 --> 00:38:27,570 AT THE BIRMINGHAM MUSEUM IN CENTRAL ENGLAND. 691 00:38:29,441 --> 00:38:33,076 UPON THE STAFF THERE ARE HIEROGLYPHICS TELLING US 692 00:38:33,178 --> 00:38:37,447 THAT THE STAFF HAD BELONGED TO SOMEONE CALLED THUTMOSIS, 693 00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:40,250 WHO HELD A HIGH POSITION AT 694 00:38:40,352 --> 00:38:45,155 THE EGYPTIAN COURT AROUND ABOUT 1350 BC. 695 00:38:46,191 --> 00:38:49,392 NOW THE HISTORICAL MOSES, 696 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:52,295 ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH, WAS 697 00:38:52,397 --> 00:38:57,400 A MAN CALLED THUTMOSIS, WHO HELD JUST SUCH A POSITION AT EXACTLY 698 00:38:57,502 --> 00:39:00,570 THE TIME THAT MOSES IS SAID TO HAVE BEEN 699 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:03,707 HIGH IN THE EGYPTIAN COURT. 700 00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:08,578 AS SUCH, THE STAFF OF THUTMOSIS COULD BE ONE 701 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,549 AND THE SAME AS THE STAFF OF THE BIBLICAL MOSES. 702 00:39:16,455 --> 00:39:18,666 Narrator: IT MAY BE DEBATABLE WHETHER THE STAFF IN 703 00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:21,024 THE BIRMINGHAM MUSEUM IS REALLY THAT OF 704 00:39:21,126 --> 00:39:22,826 THE BIBLICAL MOSES, 705 00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:24,539 BUT THE EGYPTIAN INFLUENCE OVER 706 00:39:24,563 --> 00:39:26,523 THIS RELIGIOUS FIGURE WAS STRONG. 707 00:39:29,801 --> 00:39:32,602 CONTROVERSIALLY, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE ALLEGED 708 00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:36,172 TO BE PLAGIARIZED FROM AN EARLIER EGYPTIAN TRADITION. 709 00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:41,845 Bianchi: THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE PROHIBITIONS THAT 710 00:39:41,947 --> 00:39:44,147 THE FAITHFUL, THE MORAL, THE ETHICAL 711 00:39:44,249 --> 00:39:45,982 SHOULD NOT INDULGE IN. 712 00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:49,919 DON'T COVET YOUR NEIGHBOR'S WIFE, DON'T COMMIT ADULTERY, 713 00:39:50,021 --> 00:39:52,355 DON'T MURDER AN INDIVIDUAL, ETCETERA. 714 00:39:52,457 --> 00:39:54,035 AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT 715 00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:57,026 THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IS THEY RESONATE 716 00:39:57,129 --> 00:39:59,006 WITH THE SO-CALLED NEGATIVE CONFESSION 717 00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:00,842 CHAPTER 125 OF THE BOOK OF THE DEAD 718 00:40:00,866 --> 00:40:02,026 OF THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS. 719 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:06,970 Pinknett: THIS WAS A FORMULA, LINES, IF YOU LIKE, 720 00:40:07,072 --> 00:40:09,973 THAT THEY HAD TO LEARN TO SAY IN THE AFTERLIFE 721 00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:11,819 WHEN THEY WERE IN THE HALLS OF JUSTICE, 722 00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:13,688 AND THEIR SOULS WERE BEING WEIGHED IN THE BALANCE, 723 00:40:13,712 --> 00:40:15,423 AND THEY STOOD THERE, AND THEY SAID, 724 00:40:15,447 --> 00:40:17,180 "I HAVE NOT COMMITTED ADULTERY. 725 00:40:17,282 --> 00:40:19,282 "I HAVE NOT BORNE FALSE WITNESS. 726 00:40:19,384 --> 00:40:20,650 I HAVE NOT KILLED." 727 00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:23,920 AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GET YOU OFF 728 00:40:24,022 --> 00:40:26,062 ALL THE PUNISHMENTS OF THE AFTERLIFE. 729 00:40:27,292 --> 00:40:32,796 Gough: DID MOSES DRAW UPON AN EARLIER EDICT 730 00:40:32,898 --> 00:40:36,666 AND SAY THEY WERE WRITTEN BY THE FINGER OF GOD? 731 00:40:40,672 --> 00:40:42,283 Narrator: WITHOUT CONCRETE EVIDENCE, 732 00:40:42,307 --> 00:40:44,808 THE HISTORICAL AND BIBLICAL MOSES 733 00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:47,577 WILL PROBABLY REMAIN ELUSIVE FOREVER. 734 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,182 BUT THESE TANTALIZING CLUES MIGHT JUST GIVE US 735 00:40:52,284 --> 00:40:53,983 A GLIMPSE OF THE REAL MAN. 736 00:40:56,121 --> 00:40:58,488 Young-Somers: IN MY VIEW, MOSES MAY HAVE BEEN 737 00:40:58,623 --> 00:41:00,056 A REAL FIGURE WHO LIVED, 738 00:41:00,158 --> 00:41:03,993 BUT I DON'T KNOW, AND I LIKE THE NOT KNOWING, AND FOR ME, 739 00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:06,563 ACTUALLY, THE IMPORTANCE ISN'T WHETHER 740 00:41:06,665 --> 00:41:08,498 OR NOT MOSES LITERALLY LIVED. 741 00:41:09,601 --> 00:41:11,345 Gough: MOSES APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN AN ARCHETYPE, 742 00:41:11,369 --> 00:41:14,337 BUT IF HE WAS AN HISTORICAL PERSON, 743 00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:19,175 I KNOW OF NO BETTER HISTORICAL INSPIRATION THAN THAT OF 744 00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:21,945 THE HERETIC KING WHO INTRODUCED MONOTHEISM, 745 00:41:22,047 --> 00:41:23,746 AKHENATEN. 746 00:41:27,886 --> 00:41:30,887 EVEN WHEN THE EGYPTIANS LOSE A BATTLE, 747 00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:33,069 THEY PORTRAY THEMSELVES AS THE VICTORS. 748 00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:36,092 SO IT'S VERY, VERY HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT A STORY 749 00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:37,460 THAT PAINTS THE EGYPTIANS 750 00:41:37,562 --> 00:41:39,662 IN SUCH A HORRIBLE LIGHT COULD HAVE 751 00:41:39,764 --> 00:41:42,098 POSSIBLY HAD AN EGYPTIAN ORIGIN. 752 00:41:43,168 --> 00:41:45,401 Young-Somers: I THINK IT'S INEVITABLE THAT, 753 00:41:45,504 --> 00:41:47,737 AS SUCH AN IMPORTANT FIGURE, 754 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:51,174 HE'S GOING TO CREATE INTEREST AND INTRIGUE, 755 00:41:51,276 --> 00:41:54,711 AND WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND AS MUCH AS WE CAN, 756 00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:56,457 BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH THAT'S INTERESTING 757 00:41:56,481 --> 00:41:57,992 AND SO MUCH THAT'S MYSTERIOUS. 758 00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:01,986 Subtitles Diego Moraes www.oakisland.tk 759 00:42:02,010 --> 00:42:04,010 www.opensubtitles.org 60356

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