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- Previously
on "The Bold Type"...
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- I saw that the Belle
is hiring bartenders.
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You could work here.
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- You could even do
like a podcast.
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- How about you record
one episode?
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And if I don't like it, then...
- I won't bring it up again.
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- Eva... I think you knew that
since you got my father fired
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from his own company
after 25 years.
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- How am I gonna do this job
and have a baby?
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- There's no heartbeat.
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- I think I feel relieved
that I'm not having this baby.
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- Whatever you're feeling
right now,
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it's okay.
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- I got a double mastectomy
three months ago.
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- When Kevin
tried to touch me there,
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I just... I freaked out.
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I just... I'm not comfortable
with them.
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I wrote a piece about it
to see if maybe
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I could find people like me.
We'll see if people show up.
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- I think they will.
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[punchy music]
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- No, no, no, I need you
to go right now.
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Yes, I have a first date,
but you gotta go.
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- Jane, this is huge.
- Yeah.
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- This is really big.
- Mm-hmm.
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- I mean, two weeks ago,
you said you weren't ready.
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- I know, but my support group
thinks it'll help, so...
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- Yeah, and, seriously,
I'm so proud of you.
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- Thank you.
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- What's he like?
What does he do?
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- He's geographically desirable
and a twin.
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That's all I know.
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So you have to go,
- A twin.
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- Can you go?
I have to finish getting ready.
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- Yes, no, no, no, I'm gonna get
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out of your hair ASAP.
- Okay.
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- But, hey, I'm so proud of you.
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- Thank you.
- I love you.
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Call me if you need
anything at all.
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- Nope, you have fun
with Marissa.
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Tell her I said hi.
- Okay.
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♪
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- ♪ You're a house on fire
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♪ The match and the lighter
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- This is nice...
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just sitting here with you,
getting to know each other.
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[laughs]
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I mean, i-it's a little weird
staring at you on my computer,
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but, uh, maybe we should, uh,
talk about our hobbies.
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I'll go first, um...
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I love to write,
except I do that for a living,
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so I guess that doesn't
really count as a hobby.
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I love lists,
and I like to check things off
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after I've completed them.
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Huh, I've always said that I
was gonna run a marathon,
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but I haven't done that yet.
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[door opens]
- I think I left it over here.
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Oh, my God.
What's happening?
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Is that your... your date
on the computer?
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Why are you naked?
And why isn't he here?
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- My date is here.
[chuckles]
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I-I'm dating my boobs, Kat.
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♪
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- ♪ Make you my man,
and I'll be your woman ♪
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♪
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♪ We can make it
unless I make it one moment ♪
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[phone chimes]
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♪ More champagne for us
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♪ Let's get drunk
and make loving ♪
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- ♪ I know you're in love...
- Really?
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- You look
so handsome right now.
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And it's been two weeks.
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I'm ready.
- Mm.
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- Great.
- Mm-hmm.
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- Let's do this.
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God, I missed this.
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- Mm, me too.
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♪
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- Actually, I read somewhere
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that, if I'm on top,
our chances are better.
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- Um, chances better for what?
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- Conceiving.
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Apparently position
makes a difference.
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- Oh, um, I...
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I-I was saying I'm ready
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for regular sex not...
not baby sex.
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- Right, of course.
I'm sorry.
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- No, it's...
I should've been clearer.
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- I read into it.
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I guess... I'm just ready
to try again.
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Ever since we got pregnant,
it's all I can think about...
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Starting a family with you,
being a dad,
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having a little baby you or me.
- [chuckles]
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- Okay, not right now,
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but when you're ready,
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I'm ready to try again.
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[tender music]
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- Okay.
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♪
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- Hello.
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I see your date spent the night.
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Must have gone well, hey.
- Ah, funny.
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Thank you.
- Oh, okay.
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Hey, look, I know
I don't really know much
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about this stuff,
and maybe you don't want
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to talk about it,
but if you do...
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- My support group gave me
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a how to love your body
post-mastectomy guide.
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First step is getting
to know your boobs
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as if you're dating them.
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- Hm.
- It was awkward and silly
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and weird, and if I could,
I'd never ask 'em out again.
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Plus they're kind of clingy.
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- Well, first dates
are the worst, am I right?
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But you know what
makes 'em better?
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Activities... you should
take them out.
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Body painting,
a seaweed spa wrap.
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- It's a good idea.
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- Hopefully not the only one
I have today.
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- Oh, right,
tonight's the podcast trial
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with Penny, the woman who runs
the domestic violence shelter.
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- She actually had to bail
for a conference in Boston,
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but it's all good.
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I got this woman
who invented a device
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that cleans plastic
out of the ocean,
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so hopefully it goes well,
and once Darby gives me
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the green light, then Penny
can be my next guest.
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- That's awesome.
- Thank you.
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I just... I hope
I can pull it off, you know?
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Make a difference.
- You will.
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You always do.
- Thanks.
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And, look, I know maybe it
wasn't love at first sight,
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but I do think you're gonna
have your happily ever after.
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- [chuckles]
- All three of you.
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You're perfect for each other.
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♪
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[knock on door]
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- Jacqueline,
we have a pitch meeting.
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- Oh.
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How does that look?
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- Good, good, very good.
- Mm.
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Ian took it,
and I've kind of forgotten
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how... talented he is.
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- Well, he has, like,
the perfect subject, so...
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- Thank you, Andrew.
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- I mean, of course,
yeah, my p-pleas...
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There's a pitch meeting.
Pitch meeting.
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♪
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- Good morning,
beautiful people.
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- Morning.
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- Who's feeling alive today?
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- Whoo!
- Yes!
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- Good!
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And who feels sexy
and confident?
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- Me.
- Good for you, Andrew.
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- Thank you.
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- We are all very powerful,
sexual creatures,
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and we deserve to feel that way.
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Now, that all comes,
of course, from the inside,
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but, clothes do help,
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which is why I want to celebrate
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the power of fashion.
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Pitches.
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- Sexy lingerie...
Does wearing it to the office
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make you feel more
or less in charge?
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- Love it.
What else?
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- I can do a piece
for "The Failing Feminist"...
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Power dressing
outside the office.
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My mom had this DVF wrap dress,
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and she didn't work or anything,
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but I could just tell
from photos that she felt
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really powerful and important
when wearing it.
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- Well, I would love
if you could find that photo
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to include it in your piece.
- Yeah, I think I can.
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- Fashion people.
[phone buzzes]
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- Okay, sorry, Jasper's here.
- What?
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- You got this, Red.
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- Uh...
- Sutton?
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- Okay.
[clears throat]
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Well, we could do a photo spread
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of the female business uniform
through the decades.
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What kind of clothing
does make women feel
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powerful and sexual
and independent?
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I feel like society
would really like for us
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to believe that women dress
to impress men,
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but the truth is iconic pieces
like the Chanel tweed suit
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Diane von Furstenberg's
wrap dress were created
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so that women could feel sexy
for themselves.
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So maybe some female designers,
you know?
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And how their fashion
empowers women
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to own their sexuality.
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- That is exactly the kind
of thing I'm looking for.
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How would you like to run point
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on that fashion spread?
- I would really love that.
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- Great.
What else we got?
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♪
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- I vaguely remember
that picture.
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- I'm wearing yellow rainboots,
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and Mom's
in a brown, patterned dress?
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- Oh, I remember that dress.
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She loved how easy it was
to take on and off.
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- Yeah, the photo
is on the wall by the stairs
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in a silver frame.
- You okay?
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'Cause you didn't say gross
when I alluded
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to your mom and me,
you know... doing it.
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- Yeah, uh, gross, okay?
Um... I'm fine.
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I just have a lot
on my mind, but I'm good.
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- Okay.
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I'll, uh, scan the photo
and send it as soon as I can.
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- Okay, thanks.
Love you, Dad.
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Bye.
- Yeah.
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[soft dramatic music]
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[punchy music]
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♪
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- He wants to get pregnant,
like, now.
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- No pressure.
- I know.
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And he doesn't even know
how relieved I felt
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when I found out
I wasn't having a baby.
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Honestly, I didn't think
I was gonna have
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to talk to him about it.
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- Well, I mean, you have
to tell him how you feel.
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- And disappoint him?
I can't do that.
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- Yeah, but, Sutton,
getting accidentally pregnant
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and planning for a baby
are two very different things,
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and you're allowed
to want to wait.
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- Yeah, and Richard,
he'll understand.
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- I don't know.
I just...
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Let's talk about something else.
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How's the podcast?
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- It was kind of boring.
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For someone who's
so interesting and impressive,
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she just didn't really,
like, bring anything.
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I don't think it's exciting
enough to impress Darby.
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- Well, if you're looking
for exciting,
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take me for a cruise.
- Really?
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- Yeah, 'cause I am...
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styling a very exciting shoot
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about fashion and empowerment.
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- But the podcast
is members only,
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and, uh...
[clicks tongue]
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you're still my guest, kid.
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- I spend so much time
at this bar,
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I keep forgetting that.
- [chuckles]
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- You could do Jane's boobs.
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- No, sorry,
they're booked and busy...
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Body plastering.
- What?
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- Kat took this class
where you make a cast
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of a body part.
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- [whispers] Vagina.
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- Bet no one's
done boobs before.
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- It's a pretty decent
second date.
252
00:10:39,203 --> 00:10:40,833
But a better idea, though,
would be for you to come
253
00:10:40,857 --> 00:10:42,380
and be a part of my shoot.
254
00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:44,948
- Honestly, I'm not really
ready to be photographed yet.
255
00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:47,690
- Okay.
256
00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:49,126
- Could I get
a gin martini please?
257
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- Yeah.
258
00:10:50,388 --> 00:10:52,782
[pop music]
259
00:10:52,826 --> 00:10:54,784
Straight?
- Dirty.
260
00:10:54,828 --> 00:10:57,787
- Interesting.
- You think I don't have taste?
261
00:10:57,831 --> 00:11:00,311
- Oh, you read minds now?
- Sometimes.
262
00:11:00,355 --> 00:11:03,445
- Hmm, really?
Well, that is impressive.
263
00:11:03,488 --> 00:11:07,449
A telepathic NRA
card-carrying Republican.
264
00:11:07,492 --> 00:11:10,234
- Not as impressive as
a feminist socialist activist
265
00:11:10,278 --> 00:11:12,410
who finally knows
how to make a good drink.
266
00:11:12,454 --> 00:11:14,195
[stirring utensil clinking]
267
00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:18,329
- Enjoy.
268
00:11:18,373 --> 00:11:19,983
- Thank you.
269
00:11:20,027 --> 00:11:21,942
- You're welcome.
270
00:11:22,986 --> 00:11:24,379
- I really don't like her.
271
00:11:24,422 --> 00:11:26,860
- She is so lucky that she's
on the board at Safford.
272
00:11:26,903 --> 00:11:28,122
I mean, did you see?
273
00:11:28,165 --> 00:11:29,906
She defended
hardline immigration
274
00:11:29,950 --> 00:11:31,734
last night on ABC news.
275
00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:33,997
- Yeah,
like a heartless monster.
276
00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:35,825
- Yeah, and I couldn't
change the channel.
277
00:11:35,869 --> 00:11:37,087
- Neither could I.
278
00:11:37,131 --> 00:11:38,436
♪
279
00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,395
- Oh, no.
- What?
280
00:11:40,438 --> 00:11:43,311
- I know who I need to get
on the podcast.
281
00:11:43,354 --> 00:11:46,053
Both: Who?
- Her.
282
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- ♪ 'Cause we're boring people
boring lives ♪
283
00:11:51,406 --> 00:11:53,016
♪ Dubba dub bom
284
00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:54,060
♪ Dubba dubba dub bom
285
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[soft dramatic music]
286
00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:07,988
♪
287
00:12:09,206 --> 00:12:13,167
- Wow, what is going on?
This smells amazing.
288
00:12:13,210 --> 00:12:15,082
- Just a little
celebratory breakfast
289
00:12:15,125 --> 00:12:18,215
for my wife who's been kicking
so much ass at work lately.
290
00:12:21,392 --> 00:12:23,220
You want eggs.
I can make eggs.
291
00:12:23,264 --> 00:12:26,136
- No, no, no, it's not that.
- Okay, what is it?
292
00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:28,269
- I have to...
293
00:12:28,312 --> 00:12:29,966
tell you something.
294
00:12:31,141 --> 00:12:32,926
- Okay.
295
00:12:32,969 --> 00:12:34,536
- Yesterday,
when we were talking
296
00:12:34,579 --> 00:12:37,800
about trying for a baby...
- Right.
297
00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:42,762
- Just... work is so great,
and we just got married,
298
00:12:42,805 --> 00:12:45,808
and I just really want
to enjoy this moment, you know?
299
00:12:45,852 --> 00:12:48,419
26, newly married stylist.
300
00:12:51,553 --> 00:12:53,555
- Okay.
301
00:12:53,598 --> 00:12:57,385
- I-I didn't know how
to tell you in the moment,
302
00:12:57,428 --> 00:12:58,778
but I...
303
00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:03,913
I'm not close to being ready.
304
00:13:06,046 --> 00:13:07,395
Are you mad?
305
00:13:07,438 --> 00:13:10,790
- Mad?
No, no, of course not.
306
00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:13,880
A little disappointed, maybe,
307
00:13:13,923 --> 00:13:17,971
but this is gonna happen
when we are both ready.
308
00:13:19,450 --> 00:13:20,930
- Yeah.
309
00:13:22,889 --> 00:13:25,065
I love you.
- Love you.
310
00:13:25,108 --> 00:13:27,371
- Thank you for being
understanding.
311
00:13:27,415 --> 00:13:28,895
♪
312
00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:31,898
- Now, grab some syrup
and some cakes.
313
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Let's eat.
314
00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:36,816
[soft music]
315
00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:43,823
♪
316
00:13:47,565 --> 00:13:48,871
- Oh...
317
00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:52,483
- Do you need something?
318
00:13:52,527 --> 00:13:54,529
- Uh, me?
319
00:13:54,572 --> 00:13:58,228
I, um, was actually
just wondering
320
00:13:58,272 --> 00:14:00,970
if I could get your help
with something.
321
00:14:02,058 --> 00:14:03,146
- What's up?
322
00:14:03,190 --> 00:14:05,932
- So I have this idea
for a podcast,
323
00:14:05,975 --> 00:14:08,891
and the Belle has agreed
to listen to an episode,
324
00:14:08,935 --> 00:14:10,651
and if it's good,
then they'll let me do it here.
325
00:14:10,675 --> 00:14:12,503
- Okay.
- It's conversations
326
00:14:12,547 --> 00:14:14,157
across the bar kind of thing
327
00:14:14,201 --> 00:14:16,943
where I interview members about
their passions and projects.
328
00:14:16,986 --> 00:14:19,162
- Okay.
329
00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,469
- And I think that you
would be a great guest.
330
00:14:21,512 --> 00:14:24,298
- You want me
to do your podcast?
331
00:14:24,341 --> 00:14:26,909
- Yes, I think you
would be interesting.
332
00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:30,043
- Really?
- Yes, really.
333
00:14:30,086 --> 00:14:31,958
We could debate the issues.
- [chuckles]
334
00:14:32,001 --> 00:14:36,179
- That... is unexpected
on so many levels.
335
00:14:36,223 --> 00:14:38,442
I'm going to politely decline.
336
00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:39,966
- Why?
337
00:14:40,009 --> 00:14:41,576
- Because you don't strike me
as someone
338
00:14:41,619 --> 00:14:44,318
who can fairly engage
with conservatives, Kat.
339
00:14:44,361 --> 00:14:47,147
- Okay, I can
rein it in for a podcast.
340
00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:50,498
- Well, I look forward
to seeing that,
341
00:14:50,541 --> 00:14:52,892
but not with me.
342
00:14:52,935 --> 00:14:55,024
Good luck though.
That's a really good idea.
343
00:15:01,465 --> 00:15:03,511
- It is a great idea.
344
00:15:08,298 --> 00:15:10,213
- Okay, this guy.
- Yep.
345
00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:12,365
- And this guy too... straight...
- To the studio, got it, yep.
346
00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:14,000
- You're the best.
- Yep.
347
00:15:16,393 --> 00:15:19,353
- Mm-hmm, how's it going?
- So great.
348
00:15:19,396 --> 00:15:21,442
Do you ever get that feeling
that you're just
349
00:15:21,485 --> 00:15:24,010
doing exactly
what you're meant to do?
350
00:15:24,053 --> 00:15:25,509
- The first day
I walked into "Scarlet."
351
00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:28,362
[laughter]
352
00:15:28,405 --> 00:15:32,018
- You know, my mom never had
a Chanel tweed suit
353
00:15:32,061 --> 00:15:36,022
or a DVF wrap dress,
and I always wanted her
354
00:15:36,065 --> 00:15:38,459
to be the kind of woman
that did,
355
00:15:38,502 --> 00:15:40,417
but she was a waitress.
356
00:15:42,028 --> 00:15:43,551
Well, I guess
her waitress uniform
357
00:15:43,594 --> 00:15:46,946
was her own version of powerful.
358
00:15:46,989 --> 00:15:49,035
- She must be so proud of you.
359
00:15:49,078 --> 00:15:51,515
- She is.
360
00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:54,257
She knows how much
I love styling.
361
00:15:54,301 --> 00:15:55,669
There was a minute there
where I didn't know
362
00:15:55,693 --> 00:15:58,044
if it was gonna happen.
You know?
363
00:15:58,087 --> 00:15:59,654
Watching Kat and Jane
rise the ranks,
364
00:15:59,697 --> 00:16:02,091
and I just felt
like I was idling.
365
00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:05,549
- You were an assistant longer
than you wanted to be.
366
00:16:05,573 --> 00:16:06,617
- Mm-hmm.
367
00:16:06,661 --> 00:16:09,533
- But you were never idling.
368
00:16:09,577 --> 00:16:14,016
You were preparing
for your moment
369
00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:18,194
so that when the time was right,
370
00:16:18,238 --> 00:16:20,501
you would soar.
371
00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:23,721
Everyone has their own timeline.
372
00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:27,638
- Yeah, we do, don't we?
373
00:16:33,514 --> 00:16:34,602
- Unbelievable.
374
00:16:34,645 --> 00:16:36,343
[door clanks]
375
00:16:36,386 --> 00:16:40,086
- Wow, that "honey I'm home"
greeting was very short-lived.
376
00:16:40,129 --> 00:16:41,130
- Yeah, well...
377
00:16:43,089 --> 00:16:45,308
Eva doesn't think
I can talk to Republicans
378
00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:47,049
and have
a productive conversation,
379
00:16:47,093 --> 00:16:50,531
so she said no
to being in my podcast.
380
00:16:50,574 --> 00:16:53,751
- Mm, ta-da.
381
00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:55,753
- Nice boobs.
- Thanks.
382
00:16:55,797 --> 00:17:00,062
- Great job.
How was your plastering class?
383
00:17:00,106 --> 00:17:04,545
- Oh, it was a nightmare.
I hated every minute of it.
384
00:17:04,588 --> 00:17:06,503
- Oh.
- But thank you for trying.
385
00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:08,636
These sunflower nipples
are making me very happy.
386
00:17:08,679 --> 00:17:10,159
- They're beautiful.
- Thanks.
387
00:17:10,203 --> 00:17:11,483
- Have you given
any more thought
388
00:17:11,508 --> 00:17:14,685
to being in Sutton's shoot?
It might help.
389
00:17:14,729 --> 00:17:16,818
- It just kind of feels
like a lot,
390
00:17:16,861 --> 00:17:18,646
but, I mean, maybe.
391
00:17:18,689 --> 00:17:22,041
Wait, so you really think
that Eva can help you
392
00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:25,392
get that podcast?
- Yeah, I know she can.
393
00:17:25,435 --> 00:17:27,829
- Well, then show her
that she's wrong.
394
00:17:27,872 --> 00:17:30,092
Go to one
of her Republican mixers.
395
00:17:30,136 --> 00:17:33,095
[punchy music]
396
00:17:33,139 --> 00:17:34,705
♪
397
00:17:34,749 --> 00:17:36,098
- I have an idea,
398
00:17:36,142 --> 00:17:38,796
and I think it's gonna
make both of us happy.
399
00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:42,428
Okay, just because we're not
on the same timeline
400
00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:44,193
doesn't mean that we
shouldn't be prepared
401
00:17:44,237 --> 00:17:47,457
for when we're both ready,
so I did some research.
402
00:17:47,501 --> 00:17:48,676
- A sperm bank.
403
00:17:50,373 --> 00:17:53,507
I didn't know that older sperm
can have an effect on children.
404
00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:55,726
- Same way older eggs can.
405
00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:58,686
- I gotta be honest.
This is a little weird.
406
00:17:58,729 --> 00:18:00,383
- I know.
407
00:18:00,427 --> 00:18:02,342
- But I do love
that you're thinking about us,
408
00:18:02,385 --> 00:18:04,648
about our future.
- Mm-hmm.
409
00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:08,391
So...
410
00:18:08,435 --> 00:18:09,871
does this mean...
411
00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:11,674
- We're gonna put
our future children on ice?
412
00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:14,528
Yeah.
- Yeah?
413
00:18:14,571 --> 00:18:16,138
- Yeah.
- [laughs]
414
00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:17,748
[tender music]
415
00:18:21,578 --> 00:18:24,625
[soft music]
416
00:18:24,668 --> 00:18:27,541
- So we swing by the sperm bank,
417
00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:29,325
and then I drop you off at work.
418
00:18:29,369 --> 00:18:31,458
- How modern are we?
419
00:18:31,501 --> 00:18:33,547
Oh, wow, listen to this.
420
00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:36,158
With sperm freezing,
58-year-old Hank Tier
421
00:18:36,202 --> 00:18:37,522
"was able to get
his wife pregnant
422
00:18:37,551 --> 00:18:40,858
15 years after he
froze his sperm."
423
00:18:40,902 --> 00:18:44,340
- 15 years?
- 15 years.
424
00:18:44,384 --> 00:18:47,561
That's crazy.
- Yeah, it is.
425
00:18:49,476 --> 00:18:51,826
- I mean, I knew
that it was "forever."
426
00:18:51,869 --> 00:18:53,456
I just wasn't thinking
about what that means
427
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,438
practically, you know?
428
00:18:55,482 --> 00:18:57,092
Buys us so much time.
429
00:19:01,270 --> 00:19:02,576
- [sighs]
430
00:19:08,843 --> 00:19:11,193
- I'm so happy
you agreed to be in the shoot.
431
00:19:11,237 --> 00:19:13,108
Can I come see?
432
00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:19,549
[gasps]
Jane, you look so pretty.
433
00:19:19,593 --> 00:19:21,551
- Thanks.
It's a little big here though.
434
00:19:21,595 --> 00:19:24,728
- Oh, let me just take it in
a little bit.
435
00:19:26,426 --> 00:19:28,297
Ooh, I'm so sorry!
Are you okay?
436
00:19:28,341 --> 00:19:29,907
- What?
437
00:19:29,951 --> 00:19:32,649
- Uh, I just pricked you
with a pin.
438
00:19:32,693 --> 00:19:34,173
You didn't feel it?
439
00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:36,218
[soft dramatic music]
440
00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:38,307
- No, no,
I didn't feel anything.
441
00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:43,921
- Um... okay, I'm gonna go grab
the first-aid kit.
442
00:19:43,965 --> 00:19:45,532
- Okay.
443
00:19:58,675 --> 00:20:00,634
[clatters]
444
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,875
[phone buzzes]
445
00:20:36,713 --> 00:20:38,411
[sighs]
446
00:20:38,454 --> 00:20:39,847
[knocking]
447
00:20:41,805 --> 00:20:44,330
- I didn't order anything.
Go next door.
448
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:48,203
[phone buzzes]
449
00:20:52,729 --> 00:20:54,209
Dad?
450
00:20:58,387 --> 00:21:01,651
What?
How?
451
00:21:01,695 --> 00:21:04,306
- Miles and an empty seat.
452
00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:06,308
- [chuckles]
453
00:21:06,352 --> 00:21:08,832
Uh, but why?
454
00:21:08,876 --> 00:21:10,660
- Oh, I don't know.
455
00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,663
'Cause I wanted to give you
the photo of your mom,
456
00:21:13,707 --> 00:21:16,013
and when I found the dress,
457
00:21:16,057 --> 00:21:17,885
I thought you might
like that too.
458
00:21:21,889 --> 00:21:25,240
Also I didn't feel great
about how you sounded
459
00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:28,330
on the phone, thought maybe
you could use a hug.
460
00:21:28,374 --> 00:21:31,333
[tender music]
461
00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:33,553
♪
462
00:21:33,596 --> 00:21:35,598
- [sobs]
463
00:21:35,642 --> 00:21:38,035
♪
464
00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:39,994
[sobs]
465
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,350
- Hey.
- Hey!
466
00:21:48,394 --> 00:21:50,700
- Hey.
467
00:21:50,744 --> 00:21:52,006
- What do you want for lunch?
468
00:21:52,049 --> 00:21:55,836
I could do salad
or Thai if you have time.
469
00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:57,620
- Mm, maybe we
should do the salad place.
470
00:21:57,664 --> 00:21:59,492
- Okay, great.
I love salad, big fan.
471
00:21:59,535 --> 00:22:03,496
Big... salad fan.
472
00:22:08,501 --> 00:22:11,373
Hey, are you okay, baby?
473
00:22:11,417 --> 00:22:15,072
- I mean, I don't really
have that much time...
474
00:22:15,116 --> 00:22:17,597
not 15 years anyway.
475
00:22:19,555 --> 00:22:22,341
- We're not talking
about lunch anymore are we?
476
00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:24,560
- [sighs]
477
00:22:24,604 --> 00:22:26,823
I'm sorry, it's just...
478
00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:28,390
That thing you said this morning
479
00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:30,349
about freezing sperm
for 15 years...
480
00:22:32,612 --> 00:22:35,528
You seemed really happy
about that.
481
00:22:39,967 --> 00:22:43,884
I don't wanna be an old dad.
482
00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:46,713
I wanna be there
for our kids' graduations,
483
00:22:46,756 --> 00:22:50,325
for their weddings,
and for their kids.
484
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:52,501
I can't wait 15 years.
485
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:54,938
- Hey...
486
00:22:54,982 --> 00:22:57,811
I don't need to wait 15 years.
487
00:22:57,854 --> 00:22:59,987
- How long do you think
you need?
488
00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:05,688
Okay, how about this?
489
00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:10,476
We promise
that within five years,
490
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:12,739
we try for a baby again.
491
00:23:12,782 --> 00:23:15,655
You'll be in your early 30s.
I'll be mid-40s.
492
00:23:16,873 --> 00:23:19,093
What do you say?
493
00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:29,843
- Pinkie promise?
- Yeah, pinkie promise.
494
00:23:29,886 --> 00:23:36,850
♪
495
00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:45,859
- And then I took
this plastering class.
496
00:23:45,902 --> 00:23:49,471
It was supposed to make me feel
"one" with my body,
497
00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:53,388
but instead it just
made me feel fake...
498
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:57,044
Like I'm trying
to convince my brain
499
00:23:57,087 --> 00:23:59,002
to be over something
that it's not.
500
00:23:59,046 --> 00:24:03,485
- Did you try writing about it?
- Yeah.
501
00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:06,575
- That didn't help?
- Not really.
502
00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:08,838
I mean, nothing's really helped.
503
00:24:08,882 --> 00:24:10,492
My friends have been amazing,
504
00:24:10,536 --> 00:24:11,687
but they don't really understand
505
00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:13,974
how this feels,
and the support group,
506
00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,106
they help a little,
but you know what?
507
00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:17,630
Maybe this is just
the way it is now.
508
00:24:17,673 --> 00:24:20,807
Maybe I'm just supposed
to muddle through.
509
00:24:24,724 --> 00:24:27,770
- Come on,
let's get out of here.
510
00:24:27,814 --> 00:24:29,642
- Hm?
511
00:24:29,685 --> 00:24:33,036
- Come on, maybe
a little fresh air will help.
512
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,647
- Okay.
513
00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:37,650
[upbeat music]
514
00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:40,522
♪
515
00:24:40,566 --> 00:24:43,482
[indistinct chatter]
516
00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:52,969
- But, let's face it,
the infighting
517
00:24:53,013 --> 00:24:55,189
amongst the Democratic Party
makes them vulnerable
518
00:24:55,232 --> 00:24:57,017
to criticism.
519
00:24:57,060 --> 00:24:58,603
I mean, I still know people
who are arguing
520
00:24:58,627 --> 00:25:01,412
about Bernie and Hillary.
- I know.
521
00:25:01,456 --> 00:25:03,110
The myopic attitude consistently
522
00:25:03,153 --> 00:25:04,720
holds the party back as a whole.
523
00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,156
- You know, I actually agree.
524
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,071
Both parties could use
a better direction.
525
00:25:08,115 --> 00:25:09,943
I think mission statements
would be helpful.
526
00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:11,858
- Yes, but Dems are famous
527
00:25:11,901 --> 00:25:13,468
for being aimless and wandering.
528
00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:14,904
- Well, they're also passionate.
529
00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:18,429
- And emotional, which makes
their message confusing,
530
00:25:18,473 --> 00:25:21,520
- Yes, yes, you know,
531
00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:23,609
I actually think that
that's true.
532
00:25:23,652 --> 00:25:25,567
Emotion does get
in the way sometimes.
533
00:25:25,611 --> 00:25:27,569
As long as they stick
to the plan
534
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:29,789
and have a clear goal...
535
00:25:39,102 --> 00:25:42,236
- I thought
we were going to eat.
536
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:46,936
- I just wanted to stop here
for old time's sake.
537
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:50,549
You remember when
you used to spend hours
538
00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:51,912
searching
for that perfect planner
539
00:25:51,941 --> 00:25:53,595
before a school year?
540
00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:55,641
- Yeah, well, it wasn't
just the planner.
541
00:25:55,684 --> 00:26:00,733
It was the pens and the tabs.
It was kind of a whole thing.
542
00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:04,563
I actually didn't get
a planner for next year.
543
00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:07,174
- Oh, well, you should.
544
00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:10,699
Here, pick one, my treat.
545
00:26:10,743 --> 00:26:11,744
- [laughs]
546
00:26:11,787 --> 00:26:13,180
[gasps]
547
00:26:13,223 --> 00:26:15,922
Wow, there are seven colors.
548
00:26:15,965 --> 00:26:17,987
Do you think they did that
for every day of the week?
549
00:26:18,011 --> 00:26:19,534
- Maybe.
- Hm.
550
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:21,797
- Why do I love this so much?
551
00:26:21,841 --> 00:26:24,104
- Because you like
to plan things
552
00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:26,933
in an organized manner.
- Yeah, I do.
553
00:26:26,976 --> 00:26:29,152
[chuckles]
554
00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:30,980
What do you think of this one?
555
00:26:31,024 --> 00:26:35,768
Plenty of room for lists
and a special place for goals.
556
00:26:35,811 --> 00:26:37,639
- Goals are good.
557
00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:41,295
Come on, grab those pens
you've been eyeing,
558
00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,514
and let's check out.
559
00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:46,953
- Hey.
- He's paying.
560
00:26:46,996 --> 00:26:48,955
- Yep, I'm Dad.
- [laughs]
561
00:26:48,998 --> 00:26:50,826
- She's a writer.
562
00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:53,742
- I didn't expect
to see you here.
563
00:26:53,786 --> 00:26:56,789
- Yeah, well,
I didn't expect to be here,
564
00:26:56,832 --> 00:26:58,878
but I wanted to prove to you
that I can have
565
00:26:58,921 --> 00:27:00,662
a healthy debate
with the other side,
566
00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:03,796
and the only way to do that
is to show you, so...
567
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,669
- That's impressive.
- Hm.
568
00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:09,628
- It's gonna take more
than one conversation.
569
00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:12,152
- I know.
570
00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:13,893
- Identity politics
is so touchy.
571
00:27:13,936 --> 00:27:15,808
- Shall we?
572
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:19,638
- Everything is politically
incorrect these days.
573
00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:20,943
- I know.
574
00:27:20,987 --> 00:27:23,163
I am terrified
of saying the wrong thing.
575
00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:24,686
- [sighs]
576
00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:26,142
- Yeah, I mean, I think
that that's a fear
577
00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:27,907
a lot of people share,
578
00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:29,778
especially in the age
of social media.
579
00:27:29,822 --> 00:27:32,172
- What am I supposed to say
to my 13-year-old daughter
580
00:27:32,215 --> 00:27:35,958
when she thinks
it's fashionable to be gay?
581
00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:39,135
- Uh, I don't know
about fashionable.
582
00:27:39,179 --> 00:27:40,920
- No, she's right.
583
00:27:40,963 --> 00:27:42,791
Just look at these
queer celebrities...
584
00:27:42,835 --> 00:27:44,706
Kristen Stewart,
and what's the other one?
585
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,273
- Oh, Cara Delevingne.
586
00:27:46,316 --> 00:27:48,579
It's like kids are being
bullied if they're straight.
587
00:27:48,623 --> 00:27:50,016
- Bullied, really?
588
00:27:50,059 --> 00:27:52,192
- I know it's hard to believe,
but it is happening,
589
00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:53,846
and it is a problem.
590
00:27:53,889 --> 00:27:55,258
- I actually think
that the real problem
591
00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:56,718
is what's happening right here.
592
00:27:56,762 --> 00:28:00,026
- I think what Kat means
to say is that there's no way...
593
00:28:00,069 --> 00:28:02,245
- Eva, maybe let someone
from the queer community
594
00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:04,639
field this one.
- Oh.
595
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,032
Oh, I'm sorry.
596
00:28:06,075 --> 00:28:07,729
I didn't realize that you were...
597
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,252
- Oh, queer?
Yeah...
598
00:28:09,296 --> 00:28:10,645
[chuckles]
599
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,126
I am, yeah,
and I can assure you,
600
00:28:13,169 --> 00:28:15,868
there is no liberal agenda
to turn straight people gay,
601
00:28:15,911 --> 00:28:17,739
promise.
602
00:28:17,783 --> 00:28:19,064
We just want equal rights
and opportunities...
603
00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:20,742
The same ones you have.
604
00:28:20,786 --> 00:28:24,050
- And I just want my daughter
to grow up happy and normal.
605
00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:29,185
- Normal... uh, as in straight?
606
00:28:29,229 --> 00:28:33,102
- As in the way God intended.
That is how I feel.
607
00:28:33,146 --> 00:28:37,237
- Okay, I think coming here
was a really bad idea.
608
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,414
- Kat, Kat, wait.
609
00:28:40,457 --> 00:28:44,026
- You were right.
I can't do it.
610
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:45,917
Talking to people like that...
It was a mistake.
611
00:28:45,941 --> 00:28:47,116
- No, it wasn't.
612
00:28:49,336 --> 00:28:51,686
I'll do your podcast.
- Why?
613
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,776
I just proved that I couldn't
engage in a healthy debate.
614
00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,362
- Kat, do you want me
to do your podcast?
615
00:28:56,386 --> 00:28:58,214
- Yes.
- Okay.
616
00:28:58,258 --> 00:29:01,870
Well, then I would shut up
and accept the offer.
617
00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:02,915
- Okay.
618
00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:05,091
♪
619
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:10,009
[upbeat music]
620
00:29:10,052 --> 00:29:11,880
- Okay, so when the issue
of identity politics
621
00:29:11,924 --> 00:29:14,056
comes up in your circles,
how do you combat the stigma
622
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:17,233
that the conservative party
is overall homophobic?
623
00:29:17,277 --> 00:29:18,887
- I don't combat it at all
624
00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:20,671
because
it's none of my business.
625
00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:22,804
I don't think
that it should be brought up
626
00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:24,763
nor should that fire be fanned
627
00:29:24,806 --> 00:29:29,942
because sexuality whether homo,
hetero, pan, A, or other,
628
00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,031
it doesn't define a person.
629
00:29:32,074 --> 00:29:33,815
- Okay, sure,
it doesn't define a person,
630
00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:35,817
but it certainly adds
to why they might be put
631
00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:38,211
into the category of other,
and therefore oppressed
632
00:29:38,254 --> 00:29:39,778
under the system we're all in.
633
00:29:39,821 --> 00:29:42,781
- The system being...
- Capitalism and patriarchy.
634
00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:44,043
- Right.
635
00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:46,393
- Okay, I see you laughing,
and I mean,
636
00:29:46,436 --> 00:29:48,003
you can go ahead and laugh
if you want,
637
00:29:48,047 --> 00:29:50,049
but you are also
a victim of the system.
638
00:29:50,092 --> 00:29:51,659
You're a woman living
in the world,
639
00:29:51,702 --> 00:29:53,245
and you can't be immune
to the effects of that.
640
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:57,883
- Well, in the LGBTQ community,
it just feels like...
641
00:29:57,926 --> 00:30:00,929
- Okay, Eva, you have to stop
speaking for a community
642
00:30:00,973 --> 00:30:02,864
that you're not involved in.
It's not your place.
643
00:30:02,888 --> 00:30:05,020
- I can speak
for that community...
644
00:30:05,064 --> 00:30:08,241
My community...
Because I'm a lesbian.
645
00:30:08,284 --> 00:30:11,113
I am a Republican woman
who is not defined
646
00:30:11,157 --> 00:30:13,246
by my sexuality
because sexuality
647
00:30:13,289 --> 00:30:15,161
is not a personality trait.
648
00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:16,858
Just because
I don't wear it on my sleeve
649
00:30:16,902 --> 00:30:19,034
doesn't mean that I don't
get to claim my space.
650
00:30:20,949 --> 00:30:23,691
- Absolutely, yes.
651
00:30:23,734 --> 00:30:26,433
I mean, you should be able
to claim your space.
652
00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:33,483
And identity politics
are... very tricky.
653
00:30:33,527 --> 00:30:40,751
♪
654
00:30:40,795 --> 00:30:43,711
- I always knew
you'd be a writer.
655
00:30:43,754 --> 00:30:45,321
- [chuckles]
656
00:30:45,365 --> 00:30:48,020
- You were constantly jotting
things down in your notebook,
657
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:51,284
coming up with stories,
setting your own deadlines.
658
00:30:51,327 --> 00:30:53,112
- I did do that, didn't I?
659
00:30:53,155 --> 00:30:54,722
[laughter]
660
00:30:54,765 --> 00:30:56,506
- You never gave yourself
much time.
661
00:30:56,550 --> 00:30:59,248
- Yeah, well,
I kind of liked the rush
662
00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:00,902
of not knowing
if I could finish.
663
00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:04,732
- But you always did.
664
00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:07,213
It's not always a race.
665
00:31:08,518 --> 00:31:09,998
- I know.
666
00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:13,219
- Some things take time,
but you have that now.
667
00:31:16,831 --> 00:31:19,399
You get to fill all those days.
668
00:31:19,442 --> 00:31:21,357
Every one of them, Jane.
669
00:31:23,229 --> 00:31:26,493
You know why?
670
00:31:26,536 --> 00:31:29,452
Because you did something brave.
671
00:31:29,496 --> 00:31:32,499
Not just for you but for me
672
00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:35,154
and your brothers
and your friends.
673
00:31:36,938 --> 00:31:42,509
- Dad.
[sniffles]
674
00:31:42,552 --> 00:31:45,555
- When you told me
that you tested positive
675
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,470
for the same gene
that took your mom, I...
676
00:31:47,514 --> 00:31:50,473
[voice breaks]
677
00:31:50,517 --> 00:31:54,086
I thought,
"I can't lose you too."
678
00:31:57,872 --> 00:31:59,395
But I couldn't tell you
what to do.
679
00:31:59,439 --> 00:32:00,527
- [chuckles]
680
00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:05,227
- It was your body,
your decision.
681
00:32:05,271 --> 00:32:07,403
- And I don't regret
making that decision,
682
00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:08,839
I just...
683
00:32:10,841 --> 00:32:11,930
I don't know.
684
00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:13,496
I didn't think
it would be this hard.
685
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:17,239
- I get that.
686
00:32:19,981 --> 00:32:25,987
But that part of your body,
it's not the enemy.
687
00:32:26,031 --> 00:32:29,469
It's the part
that saved your life.
688
00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:34,430
It's not about muddling through.
689
00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:38,130
It's about embracing
and enjoying your life
690
00:32:38,173 --> 00:32:41,611
as much as you can...
Every moment of it.
691
00:32:41,655 --> 00:32:43,309
Huh?
692
00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:47,443
You got a second chance at life.
693
00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:51,970
Your mother never had that.
694
00:32:53,623 --> 00:32:56,104
- I know.
695
00:32:56,148 --> 00:33:03,111
♪
696
00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:07,376
[punchy music]
697
00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:11,206
- ♪ Fade in the morning
waking up with a big head ♪
698
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:15,123
♪
699
00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:18,561
♪ I live down the block
do it up for me she said ♪
700
00:33:18,605 --> 00:33:22,870
♪
701
00:33:22,913 --> 00:33:24,654
♪ I hear 'em whisper
702
00:33:24,698 --> 00:33:26,395
♪ I hear 'em whispering
703
00:33:26,439 --> 00:33:30,312
♪
704
00:33:30,356 --> 00:33:32,662
♪ People taking notice
705
00:33:32,706 --> 00:33:34,925
♪ Can't help but
focus on this ♪
706
00:33:34,969 --> 00:33:38,016
♪
707
00:33:38,059 --> 00:33:40,148
♪ I am the people
that you meet... ♪
708
00:33:40,192 --> 00:33:41,497
- Hey.
- Hi!
709
00:33:41,541 --> 00:33:43,214
- Thought you might need this.
- Oh, thanks T.
710
00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:44,500
You're the best.
- No problem.
711
00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:45,608
And do you need anything else?
712
00:33:45,632 --> 00:33:47,068
- Yeah, I do actually.
713
00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:49,331
Next time, can I get
your creative input?
714
00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:50,289
- Seriously?
- Yeah.
715
00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:51,551
I know you have some.
716
00:33:51,594 --> 00:33:53,379
It's not that long ago
that I was you,
717
00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:55,424
and I wouldn't be here
if somebody wasn't asking me
718
00:33:55,468 --> 00:33:59,124
what my opinion is,
so I can count on you?
719
00:33:59,167 --> 00:34:01,996
- You bet.
- Thank you.
720
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,954
[chuckles]
721
00:34:07,001 --> 00:34:08,089
Jane.
722
00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:12,920
You look so beautiful.
723
00:34:12,963 --> 00:34:15,966
- Thanks.
- Does this mean...
724
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:19,231
- That I am participating in
your shoot if you will have me.
725
00:34:19,274 --> 00:34:20,623
- Duh.
- [chuckles]
726
00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:22,060
- And this dress.
727
00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:24,105
- It's my mom's.
728
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:26,064
My dad brought it for me
along with
729
00:34:26,107 --> 00:34:28,066
some much needed
advice and perspective.
730
00:34:29,676 --> 00:34:31,939
I'm gonna stop
feeling sorry for myself
731
00:34:31,982 --> 00:34:34,115
and start living my life.
732
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,726
You know, that's why
I got the surgery...
733
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:39,686
To give me more time to live,
so I'm gonna do that.
734
00:34:39,729 --> 00:34:41,514
I'm gonna run a marathon.
- Oh.
735
00:34:41,557 --> 00:34:43,603
- I am going to do
all of the things
736
00:34:43,646 --> 00:34:46,475
that I've always wanted to do
but have been putting off.
737
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,217
- Jane, that is amazing.
738
00:34:49,261 --> 00:34:52,264
You deserve everything
that you've ever wanted.
739
00:34:52,307 --> 00:34:55,310
- So do you.
- Thanks.
740
00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,399
Honestly, I kind of feel
like I have it.
741
00:34:57,443 --> 00:35:01,360
Like, right here, right now,
nothing is missing, you know?
742
00:35:01,403 --> 00:35:05,059
I-I'm living my life
743
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,105
exactly the way that I want to.
744
00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:12,153
♪
745
00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:15,113
- Isn't that a good thing?
746
00:35:15,156 --> 00:35:17,463
- Not if the person
you're living it with
747
00:35:17,506 --> 00:35:20,727
feels differently.
748
00:35:20,770 --> 00:35:26,646
Jane, I'm asking Richard
to wait....
749
00:35:26,689 --> 00:35:31,216
for me, but...
750
00:35:31,259 --> 00:35:34,219
He's waiting for something
that I can't give him.
751
00:35:35,263 --> 00:35:36,482
- What do you mean?
752
00:35:36,525 --> 00:35:40,442
- I love my life the way it is.
753
00:35:40,486 --> 00:35:43,489
I don't want kids.
754
00:35:43,532 --> 00:35:45,230
- [sighs]
755
00:35:45,273 --> 00:35:48,668
But you might change your mind
in, like, five years, you know?
756
00:35:48,711 --> 00:35:50,191
- I don't think I'm going to.
757
00:35:50,235 --> 00:35:52,759
I don't want kids, Jane.
I just don't.
758
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,287
[sighs]
How am I gonna tell Richard?
759
00:35:59,331 --> 00:36:01,463
It's gonna break his heart.
760
00:36:01,507 --> 00:36:08,427
♪
761
00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:15,521
[Woodes' "This is My Year"]
762
00:36:15,564 --> 00:36:19,220
[soft pop music]
763
00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:25,574
♪
764
00:36:25,618 --> 00:36:27,533
- ♪ I said I'd be there
765
00:36:27,576 --> 00:36:29,752
♪ Forgot to remember
766
00:36:29,796 --> 00:36:31,754
♪ I said I would call
767
00:36:31,798 --> 00:36:34,104
♪ But I wrote you a letter
768
00:36:34,148 --> 00:36:36,063
♪ It's inside my head
769
00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:38,239
♪ Return to sender
770
00:36:38,283 --> 00:36:41,460
♪ I said I would change
771
00:36:41,503 --> 00:36:43,636
♪ This is my year
772
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:46,073
♪ So worth the wait
773
00:36:46,116 --> 00:36:50,164
♪ Everything starts
going my way ♪
774
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,253
♪ This is my year
775
00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:54,560
♪ That's what they say
776
00:36:54,603 --> 00:36:58,694
♪ Till we wake up
on New Year's Day ♪
777
00:36:58,738 --> 00:37:01,393
♪ This is my year
778
00:37:01,436 --> 00:37:03,264
- Congratulations.
779
00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:06,180
The way that
you handled that woman was hot.
780
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,202
- Mm, well, you know, I could
handle you the same way.
781
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:09,401
- Mm, oh, yeah?
782
00:37:09,444 --> 00:37:10,663
♪
783
00:37:10,706 --> 00:37:13,100
Only if you use
your podcast voice.
784
00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:17,104
- ♪ I'll cherish my mom,
I'll get motivation ♪
785
00:37:17,147 --> 00:37:18,279
♪ I'll learn to forgive
786
00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:20,803
♪ I'll try to be patient
787
00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:24,503
- What would you say
are the biggest issues
788
00:37:24,546 --> 00:37:26,679
facing our country today?
789
00:37:26,722 --> 00:37:28,420
[chuckles]
790
00:37:28,463 --> 00:37:32,162
♪
791
00:37:32,206 --> 00:37:34,339
- Gun violence.
- Mm-hmm.
792
00:37:34,382 --> 00:37:37,211
♪
793
00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:38,560
- Divisive language.
794
00:37:38,604 --> 00:37:40,867
♪
795
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:43,870
Also climate change?
796
00:37:43,913 --> 00:37:49,310
♪
797
00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:52,531
Do you agree?
798
00:37:52,574 --> 00:37:55,098
- Yes.
- Yes, what?
799
00:37:55,142 --> 00:37:58,319
- Yes, Eva.
800
00:37:58,363 --> 00:38:00,539
- Are you serious?
801
00:38:03,281 --> 00:38:04,543
[huffs]
802
00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:06,153
Good-bye.
803
00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:09,156
- ♪ I said I'd be there
804
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:11,245
♪ Forgot to remember
805
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:13,508
♪ I said I would call...
806
00:38:13,552 --> 00:38:15,728
- Hey, babe.
In here.
807
00:38:15,771 --> 00:38:17,338
- ♪ It sits in my head
808
00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:20,298
♪ Return to sender
809
00:38:20,341 --> 00:38:24,606
♪ I said I would change,
but now it's December ♪
810
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:28,349
♪ I keep my hopes
811
00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:34,399
♪ On the shelf
812
00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:37,271
- Hey, how was the shoot?
813
00:38:38,185 --> 00:38:40,535
- I love you so much.
814
00:38:40,579 --> 00:38:42,320
- What's wrong?
815
00:38:44,365 --> 00:38:46,585
- More than I thought possible.
816
00:38:46,628 --> 00:38:51,241
- [chuckles]
You're starting to scare me.
817
00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:52,765
- You have to let me
get through this
818
00:38:52,808 --> 00:38:56,377
because this is really hard,
and I have to tell you
819
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:59,337
before a month
becomes six months
820
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,644
becomes a year and then we're
five years in, and I... I...
821
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,564
And I can't give you
what you want.
822
00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:12,350
- ♪ So worth the wait,
everything starts ♪
823
00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:13,612
♪ Going my way
824
00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:16,615
- So...
825
00:39:16,658 --> 00:39:20,793
the same way
that the miscarriage...
826
00:39:20,836 --> 00:39:24,405
made you realize
how much you want a baby...
827
00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:26,712
- ♪ I'll be so strong
828
00:39:26,755 --> 00:39:29,758
- [whispers] It made me realize
that I don't.
829
00:39:29,802 --> 00:39:33,936
- ♪ I'll get some sleep,
look after myself ♪
830
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:37,810
- I love our life.
I love us.
831
00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:43,555
I don't want anything else.
832
00:39:44,904 --> 00:39:47,428
You're enough for me.
833
00:39:47,472 --> 00:39:54,479
♪
834
00:39:54,522 --> 00:39:57,220
And I don't want that to change.
835
00:39:57,264 --> 00:39:59,571
- ♪ This is my year
836
00:39:59,614 --> 00:40:01,921
♪ So worth the wait
837
00:40:01,964 --> 00:40:05,925
♪ Everything starts
going my way ♪
838
00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:08,580
♪ This is my year
839
00:40:08,623 --> 00:40:12,453
- I don't want children...
840
00:40:12,497 --> 00:40:16,239
and I can't promise you
I ever will.
841
00:40:16,283 --> 00:40:19,765
♪ I'll be so strong,
I'll eat so well ♪
842
00:40:19,808 --> 00:40:24,378
♪ I'll get some sleep,
look after myself ♪
843
00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:27,555
♪ Yeah, that's what
they say ♪
844
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:29,470
- I love you.
845
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:31,733
♪ Till we wake up
on New Year's Day ♪
846
00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:33,909
♪ This is my year
847
00:40:33,953 --> 00:40:37,043
♪
848
00:40:37,086 --> 00:40:39,785
[phone clatters]
849
00:40:39,828 --> 00:40:42,918
♪ This is my year
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