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( men laughing )

Roman Polanski:
...OF "BEN HUR,"
YOU MEAN?

Clive James:
GRANTED THAT IT'S
TOO EASY AND A CLICHE

TO CONNECT YOUR WORK
WITH YOUR LIFE

IN SUCH A DIRECT
MANNER.

LET ME TAKE THE EXAMPLE
OF "CHINATOWN."

"CHINATOWN"
IS REALLY A MOVIE

ABOUT JUSTICE
NOT WINNING.

IS THAT WHAT YOU
HAD COME TO BELIEVE?

Polanski:
NO, NOT AT ALL.

BUT IF YOU WANT YOUR FILM
TO SERVE ANY PURPOSE,

IF YOU WANT
TO SHOW INJUSTICE

OR CORRUPTION
OF LOS ANGELES
IN THAT PERIOD,

YOU HAVE TO SHOW
THAT INJUSTICE
SOMEHOW WON

AND LEAVE THEM

WITH A FEELING
OF FRUSTRATION.

I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND
IF I JUST REACH
ACROSS HERE

AND GRAB A COUPLE
OF THESE NUTS.

ME TOO.

ANYWAY, THAT'S--
THAT'S FICTION.

AND I THINK THIS
PROBABLY MAY BE STILL

IN THE LAND OF FICTION,
EDGING TOWARD FACT.

WHEN THEY--

WHEN THE NEWSPAPERS
AND THE MAGAZINES
AND THE BOOKS

TALK ABOUT YOU
AND LITTLE GIRLS,
ALL RIGHT,

IS THERE
ANYTHING IN IT?

WELL, I LIKE YOUNG WOMEN,
LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.

I THINK MOST OF MEN DO,
ACTUALLY.

YEAH, BUT THE QUESTION
TURNS ON HOW YOUNG,
DOESN'T IT?

WELL, YES.
HERE YOU'VE COME

TO A CONCRETE CASE

FOR WHICH I HAVE BEEN
BEHIND BARS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT
TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT WHAT EXACTLY

WOULD YOU LIKE ME
TO TELL YOU?

( "Rosemary's Baby"
theme playing )

Reporters:
MR. POLANSKI!

A QUESTION HERE,
MR. POLANSKI!

Man:
THE LOS ANGELES
POLICE DEPARTMENT

TODAY ANNOUNCED THE ARREST
OF RAYMOND POLANSKI

AS A RESULT
OF A COMPLAINT

FILED BY THE MOTHER
OF A 13-YEAR-OLD FEMALE.

Polanski:
IT WAS A YEAR
OF ANXIETY,

A YEAR OF DRAMA
FOR ME,

AND I THOUGHT
THAT WAS SIMPLY ENOUGH.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

AND THAT WAS
MY DECISION TO LEAVE.

YOU RAN AWAY, ROMAN.

YOU RAN AWAY.

WELL, I, AS YOU SAY,
RAN AWAY,

BECAUSE I THINK

THAT I WAS
VERY UNFORTUNATE

TO HAVE A JUDGE

WHO MISUSED JUSTICE.

AND HE WAS
PLAYING WITH ME

FOR THE PERIOD
OF A YEAR.

I THINK THAT I WAS
SOME KIND OF MOUSE

WITH WHICH

SOME ABOMINABLE CAT

BEGINS A SPORT.

Man:
GET THAT OUT
OF OUR FACE.

PLEASE PLEASE.

WE'RE TRYING
TO GET THROUGH.

( reporters clamoring )

( mutters )

Andrew Braunsberg:
PEOPLE WERE NOT
IN THE HABIT

OF CALLING ME
AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING.

SO I WAS SLEEPING.

( line ringing )

I PICKED UP THE PHONE

AND THEY SAID,
"ROMAN'S BEEN ARRESTED."

AND I SAID, "WHAT FOR?"

AND THEY SAID,
"RAPE."

I SAID--

I JUST COULD NOT--
IT JUST MADE NO SENSE.

I MEAN,
THIS IS SOMEBODY

WHO COULD NOT BE
A RAPIST, YOU KNOW?

I MEAN,
IT'S SOMEBODY I KNOW

REALLY REALLY WELL.

Philip Vannatter:
I WAS WORKING WEST L.A.
HOMICIDE

AND I ALSO HANDLED
SEX CRIMES.

AND I CAME IN
TO WORK

AND I HAD A CRIME REPORT
ON MY DESK

OF A RAPE
THAT HAD BEEN REPORTED.

AND ROMAN POLANSKI WAS
THE NAMED SUSPECT IN IT.

AFTER I RECEIVED THE REPORT
I STARTED THE FOLLOW-UP.

I WENT TO INTERVIEW
THE VICTIM AND HER MOTHER.

I DID AN EXTENSIVE
INTERVIEW WITH THEM,

MADE SURE THAT ANY
PHYSICAL EVIDENCE

WOULD HAVE BEEN
RECOVERED FROM HER
THAT SHE HAD,

AND THEN I WENT

AND TALKED TO THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

VANNATTER CAME
INTO THE OFFICE

AND WE SAT DOWN AND
HE RAN THE CASE BY ME.

HE SHOWED ME
THE INCIDENT REPORT,
A CRIME REPORT

TAKEN BY A COUPLE
OF PATROL OFFICERS,

WHICH IS A NARRATIVE
OF THE FACTS AND STUFF.

David Wells:
TIME WAS KIND OF
OF THE ESSENCE,

SO WE GOT
THE SEARCH WARRANT.

IT WAS FOR TWO
LOCATIONS--

IT WAS FOR
JACK NICHOLSON'S HOUSE

WHERE THE CRIME
OCCURRED

AND ALSO FOR
POLANSKI'S SUITE

ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF
THE BEVERLY WILSHIRE HOTEL.

Vannatter:
ME AND MY PARTNER,

ALONG WITH
A NARCOTICS OFFICER,

PROCEEDED WITH THE SEARCH
WARRANT TO THE HOTEL.

Jim Grodin:
WE WERE WALKING IN
AND HE WAS WALKING OUT

WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE,
OBVIOUSLY GOING OUT
FOR THE EVENING.

AND I TOLD PHIL,
I SAID, "THERE HE IS."

AND WE STOPPED

BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE
WALKED RIGHT ON BY US.

SO WE SAID,
"MR. POLANSKI, L.A.P.D.
WE HAVE TO TALK."

AND HE CAME OUT AND HE SAYS,
"IS THIS IS GONNA BE

MORE THAN A FEW MINUTES?
IF IT IS, I'LL LET
MY PEOPLE GO."

WE SAID,
"YES, IT'S GOING TO BE
MORE THAN A FEW MINUTES.

WE PROCEEDED UP TO HIS ROOM
AND COMPLETED THE
SEARCH WARRANT,

WHICH-- WE DID FIND
THE CAMERA EQUIPMENT,

THE FILM THAT WE
ULTIMATELY HAD DEVELOPED.

AND IT DID SHOW
NUDE PICTURES OF
THE VICTIM.

Marina Zenovich:
TOTALLY NUDE?

WELL, SHE WAS
IN A SPA.

YOU COULD SEE
THE UPPER PORTION
OF HER BODY.

YOU COULDN'T SEE
HER WHOLE BODY

BECAUSE SHE WAS
IN THE WATER.

BUT THEY WERE
NUDE PICTURES.

POLANSKI WAS NERVOUS.
HE WAS UPSET.

AND HE IS
ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE
THAT JUST TALK.

AND I SUSPECT

HE FIGURES,
"WELL, IF I TALK AND TALK

I CAN PROBABLY
TALK MY WAY OUT
OF THIS THING."

HE WAS LIKE
ON A HYPER HIGH.

AND HE'S
CONSTANTLY TALKING,

CONSTANTLY FIDGETING.

AND HE DIDN'T PERCEIVE
HAVING INTERCOURSE

WITH A 13-YEAR-OLD GIRL
AS AGAINST THE LAW.

THAT WAS NOT
IN HIS CULTURE.

YOU KNOW, "SO WHAT?"
TYPE THING.

HE DIDN'T REALIZE,
I GUESS,

THE LAWS
OF OUR COUNTRY

AS COMPARED
TO OTHER COUNTRIES.

I'M NOT SO SURE THAT
MR. POLANSKI WAS AWARE

OF WHAT BEING ARRESTED
IN AMERICA MEANT.

( reporters clamoring )

I KNOW IT'S
A VERY LARGE PIECE OF NEWS
FOR ALL OF YOU.

IT'S A LOT OF
SENSATIONAL STUFF.

BUT TRY TO GO BEYOND IT
AND UNDERSTAND
MY POSITION.

IT'S NOT THE BEST
TYPE OF PUBLICITY,

NOT SOMETHING
I DESIRE.

I HAVE NOT
MUCH TO TELL YOU
EXCEPT THAT I'M INNOCENT.

Richard Brenneman:
WHEN THE CASE
ARRIVED HERE

THERE WAS AN ABSOLUTE
MOB OF PUBLICITY--

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS,
U.P.I.,

"NEW YORK TIMES,"
"LOS ANGELES TIMES,"

CELEBRITY MAGS,
GERMAN REPORTERS,

FRENCH REPORTERS,
BRITISH REPORTERS.

I HAD NEVER SEEN
A MEDIA FEEDING FRENZY BEFORE

AND THIS COURTROOM
EMBODIED IT.

YOU COULDN'T
MEET ANYBODY,

WHETHER HE WAS KNOWN
OR NOT KNOWN AT ALL

WHO DIDN'T HAVE AN OPINION
ABOUT THIS CASE.

AND IT WAS ONE OF
THE BIGGEST CASES.

I DIDN'T WORK
FOR WEEKS AND MONTHS

ON ANYTHING ELSE
BUT THIS CASE.

Brenneman:
AS THE CASE PROGRESSED,
I WAS STRUCK--

YOU KNOW, HOW COULD
THE SAME MAN BE

TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
TO TWO DIFFERENT
SETS OF PRESS?

THE EUROPEAN REPORTERS
LOOKED ON POLANSKI

AS THIS TRAGIC, BRILLIANT
HISTORIC FIGURE.

HERE WAS THIS MAN

WHO HAD
SURVIVED THE HOLOCAUST,

WHO HAD SURVIVED
THE GASSING OF HIS MOTHER

AND THEN
HAD COME HERE

AND DEVELOPED
HIS OWN VOICE,

HAD MAINTAINED
HIS INTEGRITY

AGAINST THE POWER
OF THE HOLLYWOOD MACHINE.

AND THE AMERICAN PRESS
TENDED TO LOOK AT HIM

AS THIS SORT OF
MALIGNANT TWISTED DWARF

WITH THIS DARK VISION.

Daniel Melnick:
ROMAN WAS THE PERFECT
VILLAIN FOR THEM.

HE WAS A FOREIGNER.
HE HAD A THICK ACCENT.

HE MADE LOTS OF MONEY
IN THE MOVIE BUSINESS.

HE WAS SHORT.
HE WAS PERFECT.

IN CALIFORNIA
AT THAT TIME,

HAD HE NOT BEEN
WHO HE WAS--

IN OTHER WORDS,
A FAMOUS

CONTROVERSIAL DIRECTOR

WITH THE LEGACY

OF HIS WIFE'S MURDER
BEHIND HIM,

THE WHOLE THING
WOULD HAVE BEEN

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

( dramatic music playing )

BBC narrator:
ROMAN POLANSKI IS 32.

HE HAS JUST COMPLETED
HIS FOURTH FEATURE FILM,

"THE VAMPIRE KILLERS,"

SET IN THE SNOW-COVERED
MOUNTAINS OF TRANSYLVANIA.

HE BOTH DIRECTS

AND PLAYS ONE
OF THE LEADING PARTS.

Man:
HOLD IT, BOYS.

Polanski:
SHARON, SHARON.

LOOKING AT HIM,
NOT AT ME.

OKAY?
YEAH.

YOU KNOW WHERE.

YEAH.

BBC narrator:
ROMAN POLANSKI
WAS BORN IN FRANCE

OF POLISH PARENTS.
THEY LEFT THERE WHEN
HE WAS THREE

AND WENT TO LIVE
IN POLAND.

I DON'T KNOW, I THINK
I'M A NOMAD, YOU KNOW?

BUT I--

I'M REALLY
STRONGLY ATTACHED

TO POLISH BACKGROUND.
I'VE GROWN UP IN POLAND.

MY MOTHER WAS KILLED
BY GERMANS VERY SOON

AND MY FATHER WAS TAKEN
TO THE CONCENTRATION CAMP

AFTER TWO YEARS OF WAR.
AND THEN I WAS BY MYSELF.

ONE OF THE FIRST FILMS
I'VE SEEN

WAS "SNOW WHITE,"
YOU KNOW?

AND I THINK
IT INFLUENCED ME

ENORMOUSLY FOREVER.

AND AS YOU SEE,
IT'S AN ENORMOUS

INFLUENCE IN MY WORK

LIKE "REPULSION"
AND "CUL-DE-SAC."

I ALWAYS WANTED
TO BE A DIRECTOR.

I KNEW I WANTED
TO MAKE MOVIES.

I KNEW I WANTED TO BE
A PART OF IT.

I KNEW I WANTED
TO CREATE THIS.

AN AMERICAN PRODUCER
OF POLISH ORIGIN

SUGGESTED THAT
I COME TO LONDON

AND MAKE
A FILM THERE.

LONDON WAS FABULOUS.

YOU CANNOT IMAGINE
WHAT IT MEANT

FOR SOMEONE
WHO LIVED

IN THE GREY, DRAB

COMMUNIST REALITY.

Braunsberg:
IT WAS A VERY CIVILIZED
WAY OF LIVING,

ROOMS ALWAYS FULL
OF FRIENDLY FACES.

YOU SAW YOUR FRIENDS
EVERY DAY

AND THERE WERE
LOTS OF THEM--

LIFE WITHOUT LIMITS.

I GOT A PHONE CALL
FROM A FRIEND OF OURS,

A MUTUAL FRIEND
WHO WAS A FILM PRODUCER.

AND HE SAID,
"I'VE GOT THIS FRIEND

WHO'S COMING
TO LONDON

AND HE DOESN'T SPEAK
ANY ENGLISH.

CAN YOU TAKE CARE
OF HIM?"

I SAID, "SURE,
SEND HIM ROUND."

ROMAN WAS
TOTALLY EXCEPTIONAL.

I WAS REALLY DRAWN TO HIM,
AND SO WAS EVERYBODY ELSE.

ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED
FILM DIRECTOR--

NO ONE IN LONDON
HAD HEARD OF HIM.

FEW PEOPLE HAD SEEN
HIS FILMS.

Polanski:
YES YES YES.

GO, GO AGAIN.

( chuckles )

( both speak French )

( laughs )
THAT WAS FUNNY.

Braunsberg:
FROM COMING AS
A COMPLETE UNKNOWN,

I WOULD SAY
WITHIN SIX MONTHS

EVERYBODY KNEW HIM.

HE WAS
A CHARISMATIC FELLOW.

THERE ARE
VERY FEW DIRECTORS

WHO HAVE
ROMAN'S PERSONALITY

AND ALSO HIS
APPETITE FOR LIFE--

HIS APPETITE FOR LIFE.

THEY MET IN LONDON

BECAUSE OF A FILM
THAT HE MADE

CALLED "THE DANCE
OF THE VAMPIRES."

SHE WAS
A REMARKABLE PERSON--

BEAUTIFUL, GENTLE,

UNSOPHISTICATED

IN THE BEST SENSE
OF THE WORD,

REALLY A GENUINE
HUMAN BEING.

THEY WERE GREAT
TOGETHER

AND OF COURSE IT CREATED
THIS FANTASTIC
LOVE AFFAIR.

AND IT TRULY WAS
A LOVE AFFAIR.

Polanski:
LOOK, IT ALL STARTED
SO LONG AGO.

MY REAL PROBLEMS
STARTED THEN,

WITH THE MURDER
OF SHARON TATE.

I WAS ALL RIGHT
WITH THE PRESS

BEFORE THAT.

THEY-- THEY WOULDN'T
LET IT GO.

SO IT'S JUST THE STORY
THAT WILL NEVER GO.

- PARDON ME?
- Man: WHY DID YOU WANT
A GAG ORDER?

WE DIDN'T ASK
FOR A GAG ORDER.

Woman:
WHO DID, MR. DALTON?

NO ONE ASKED
FOR A GAG ORDER.

THEN WHY DID THE JUDGE
BRING IT UP AT THIS STAGE?

WELL, MAYBE THE JUDGE
CAN ANSWER THAT.

THE TOPIC OF PUBLICITY
WAS DISCUSSED

AND CERTAIN MEASURES
WERE DISCUSSED

TO TRY TO CONTROL
THE PUBLICITY,

BUT NO ONE ASKED
FOR A GAG ORDER AS SUCH.

Man #2:
THERE WAS AN HOUR-LONG
DISCUSSION IN THE CHAMBERS.

DID THAT DEAL PRINCIPALLY
WITH PUBLICITY PROBLEMS?

YES, A GREAT
PART OF IT DID.

Man #3:
WHAT DO YOU SEE
AS THE PROBLEMS

WITH PUBLICITY
RIGHT NOW?

WELL, THE PROBLEM
WITH PUBLICITY IS

THERE'S BEEN
TOO MUCH OF IT.

AND OF COURSE FOR ME
TO GO ON TELEVISION

AND COMPLAIN ABOUT PUBLICITY
IS A LITTLE INCONSISTENT.

- ( reporters laughing )
- EXCUSE ME.

Douglas Dalton:
I'VE NEVER SPOKEN
PUBLICLY

ABOUT THIS CASE BEFORE.

BUT IF THE STORY
IS TO BE TOLD,

I WANT IT TO BE TOLD
FACTUALLY.

I KNOW THE FACTS.
I WAS THERE.

CAN YOU GIVE US
YOUR REACTION

TO THE DELAY OF
THE START OF THE TRIAL?

- MY REACTION TO IT?
- YEAH.

WELL, I'M PLEASED.

IN WHAT WAY?

WELL, THERE'S A GOOD DEAL
OF WORK-UP

THAT GOES INTO ANY
MAJOR CASE...

Dalton:
PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT

TO THEIR OWN OPINIONS
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED,

BUT THEY DON'T
HAVE THE RIGHT
TO THEIR OWN FACTS.

THE FACT OF POLANSKI

LEAVING THE COUNTRY
AND SO FORTH

SEEMS TO HAVE ECLIPSED

THE REALLY IMPORTANT PART
OF THIS CASE

ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
TO THE SYSTEM OF JUSTICE.

I REMAIN ASTOUNDED

AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.

THIS CASE WILL NEVER
LEAVE ME.

Brenneman:
DEFENSE ATTORNEY
DOUG DALTON

HAD A VERY LINCOLNESQUE
QUALITY ABOUT HIM,

DIGNIFIED,

NOT GIVEN
TO FLAMBOYANT GESTURES.

HE DOESN'T
RAISE HIS VOICE
IN THE COURTROOM.

HE MAINTAINS
THIS CALM DEMEANOR.

AND HE WAS THE MASTER
OF NEGOTIATIONS.

THE FACT
THAT DOUG DALTON
WAS THE ATTORNEY

INDICATED TO ME
THAT THERE WOULD BE

A NEGOTIATED PLEA
ARRIVED AT

BETWEEN
THE PROSECUTION,

THE DEFENSE
AND THE JUDGE.

Clause Preute:
DOUGLAS DALTON WAS
A FIRST-CLASS LAWYER

BUT HE WAS
DEFINITELY MATCHED

BY ROGER GUNSON.

THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE

PUT GUNSON
ON THE CASE--

A 37-YEAR-OLD,

VERY STRAIGHT-THINKING
MORMON.

WE ARE CONCERNED
WITH PROTECTING

THE PRIVACY
OF THE GIRL--

THE COMPLAINING WITNESS
IN THIS CASE--

AND IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING
THAT THERE HAVE BEEN

FOREIGN REPORTERS
AND INVESTIGATORS

WHO HAVE ATTEMPTED
TO CONTACT HER AND
HAVE INTERVIEWS...

Brenneman:
GUNSON WAS THE MODEL
OF RECTITUDE.

HE HAD THAT SAME
KIND OF

HANDSOME-SCHOOLBOY,

SPARKLING GOOD LOOKS
AS ROBERT REDFORD.

THE RUMOR IN THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS

THAT THEY PICKED GUNSON
TO HANDLE THE CASE

BECAUSE HE WAS A MORMON

AND BECAUSE
HE WAS THE ONLY MEMBER
OF THE D.A.'S OFFICE

WHO HADN'T HAD SEX
WITH AN UNDERAGE GIRL.

I HEARD SOME JOKES ABOUT
WHY THEY GAVE IT TO ME,

BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE
THOSE ARE ACCURATE.

THERE WERE
A LOT OF PROSECUTORS

WHO HAD AN INTEREST
IN HIGH-PUBLICITY CASES.

ALTHOUGH I HAD HAD ONE
VERY HIGH PUBLICITY CASE,

I WAS NOT ONE
THAT LOOKED FOR THEM.

THEY WERE
THE PERFECT ATTORNEYS

TO HANDLE
A CASE LIKE THIS

WHERE THE EVIDENCE
AND THE PLAYERS

WERE SENSATIONAL,

WERE DRAMATIC,
FLAMBOYANT.

SO YOU WANT
TWO ATTORNEYS

WHO KEPT
AN EVEN KEEL.

THEY WERE
IN THAT REGARD

VERY STRIKINGLY
DIFFERENT

FROM THE JUDGE
IN THE CASE.

Roger Gunson:
WHEN THE GRAND JURY

CAME BACK
WITH THE INDICTMENT,

JUDGE RITTENBAND,
WHO WAS VERY INTERESTED

IN HANDLING
CELEBRITY CASES

OBVIOUSLY SAW IT

AND REALIZED
THAT HE WANTED IT

AND WENT
TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE

AND SAID, "HEY,
I WANT THIS CASE."

HE WAS OF COURSE
THE SENIOR JUDGE
IN SANTA MONICA,

WHICH WAS
THE CHOICE LOCATION
FOR ANY JUDGE

BECAUSE THAT'S
WHERE YOU GET

A LOT OF THESE
HIGH-PUBLICITY CASES.

JUDGE RITTENBAND
HAD HANDLED

A CARY GRANT
PATERNITY SUIT.

HE HAD HANDLED, WELL,

THE PRISCILLA
AND ELVIS DIVORCE,

THE MARLON BRANDO
CUSTODY SUIT

THAT WENT ON FOREVER.

THERE WERE QUITE A FEW.

I SPOKE
TO JUDGE RITTENBAND

VERY FREQUENTLY.

AND HE LIKED

BEING AMONG THE STARS

BUT I DON'T THINK
HE WAS STARSTRUCK.

Brenneman:
RITTENBAND LOVED
THE PRESS,

ALWAYS HAD COMMENTS
FOR THE PRESS.

HE WANTED TO SHAPE

THE WAY THE PRESS
COVERED HIM.

SITTING UP THERE
ON THE BENCH,

HE ACTED
LIKE A DIRECTOR,

A TYRANNICAL DIRECTOR
CALLING THE SHOTS,

TELLING PEOPLE WHEN
TO MAKE THEIR ENTRANCES,

WHAT TO SAY,
WHERE TO POSITION THEMSELVES.

WELL, WE MISSPOKE
OURSELVES, YOUR HONOR.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY
OTHER BASIS FOR
THE MOTION.

YES, WE DON'T
NEED THAT ANYMORE.

Brenneman:
THERE WERE A LOT
OF SIMILARITIES

BETWEEN JUDGE RITTENBAND
AND ROMAN POLANSKI.

( laughs )

NOT TOO TALL
IN STATURE.

HE LIKED THE LADIES
AND HE LOVED TO DANCE.

HE HAD HIS FRIENDS
IN THE MOVIE INDUSTRY

WHICH HE'D SEE
EVERY DAY

AT THE HILLCREST
COUNTRY CLUB.

Marlene Roden:
WHEN I FIRST MET HIM

I WAS ANSWERING PHONES.
AND HE USED TO SAY

"I'M GOING TO HILLCREST.
I'M GOING TO HILLCREST."

AND FINALLY I STOP
AND I SAYS,

"WHAT IS GOING ON
AT HILLCREST?"

YOU KNOW,
"IS YOUR WIFE THERE?"

BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW
IF HE WAS MARRIED OR NOT.

AND HE SAID,
"OH, I'M NOT MARRIED."

AND I SAID,
"OH, OKAY."

I WAS 20 YEARS OLD.

HE WAS
34 YEARS OLDER.

HE WAS 54
WHEN I MET HIM.

AND WE BECAME FRIENDS.

Madeline Bessmer:
OH, GOLLY,

PRACTICALLY EVERY EVENING
HE'D COME HERE

AND HE'D SIT OVER
IN THAT CHAIR.

AND HE LOVED CHAMPAGNE.

SO I'D GET CHAMPAGNE
BY THE CASE.
( laughs )

Wells:
"JUDGE RITTENBAND,"
I SAID,

"WHAT WOULD YOU
AT YOUR AGE DO WITH
A GIRLFRIEND?"

HE SAID,
"I'D DO THE SAME THING
THAT YOU DID

AND PROBABLY BETTER."

AND I SAID,
"TELL ME ABOUT IT."

HE SAID,
"I GOT ONE THAT COOKS

AND ONE THAT DOES
THE OTHER THINGS."

RITTENBAND WAS KNOWN
AS A HAMMER.

THAT MEANS THAT
HE WAS A TOUGH JUDGE

AND A TOUGH SENTENCER.

IF YOU DIDN'T
MAKE A DEAL

AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE
THE DEAL IN PLACE

WHEN YOU WENT
IN THERE,

YOU WERE
IN TROUBLE.

I DON'T REMEMBER
ANY JUDGE

THAT LIKED PUBLICITY
LIKE RITTENBAND DID.

HE HAD HIS BAILIFF
MAINTAIN A SCRAPBOOK

THAT WENT BACK
MANY YEARS

AND IF AN ARTICLE
APPEARED ANYWHERE

ABOUT SOMETHING INVOLVING
LAWRENCE J. RITTENBAND

IT WOUND UP
IN THE SCRAPBOOK.

IT WAS KEPT
SOMEWHERE IN THE COURT,

I THINK
IN THE BAILIFF'S DESK,

AND ON OCCASION

WOULD COME OUT--
AND BE DISPLAYED.

Gunson:
JUDGE RITTENBAND
WAS RECEIVING REQUESTS

FROM PEOPLE
ALL OVER THE WORLD,

FROM NEWS AGENCIES

WANTING ONE OF THE SEATS
IN HIS COURTROOM.

HE WAS SOLICITING
RESERVATIONS

FOR EACH ONE
OF THESE CHAIRS.

SO IT WAS GOING TO BE
A REAL CIRCUS.

Man:
IF YOU GENTLEMEN WOULD
JUST STAND STILL,

MR. POLANSKI
WILL STAY HERE

AND YOU CAN GET
YOUR SHOT.

BECAUSE ANOTHER TRIAL
IN THE SAME COURTROOM

IS TAKING MUCH LONGER
THAN EXPECTED,

THE RAPE TRIAL
OF ROMAN POLANSKI

HAS BEEN DELAYED
UNTIL AUGUST 9th,

EXACTLY EIGHT YEARS
TO THE DAY

HIS LATE WIFE,
ACTRESS SHARON TATE,

WAS BRUTALLY MURDERED.

Brenneman:
AT THAT TIME
RAPE VICTIMS' NAMES

DIDN'T GET REPORTED
IN THE PRESS,

MUCH LESS
THE NAMES OF MINORS

WHO WERE INVOLVED
IN SEX CASES.

BUT WITH THE EUROPEAN
PRESS THERE,

HER NAME
WOULD COME OUT,

EXPOSED IN THE PRESS,
HER BACKGROUND EXPOSED.

THE FACT
THAT SHE HAD HAD
A PRIOR RELATIONSHIP,

THAT SHE HAD TAKEN
QUAALUDES BEFORE--

ALL OF THIS
WOULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT

AND WOULD HAVE
FOREVER HAUNTED HER.

ONCE WE KNEW
HER NAME,

WE KNEW
WHERE HER SCHOOL WAS,

WE KNEW WHERE
HER HOUSE WAS.

THE FRENCH COMPETITION
WERE AFTER THIS GIRL.

THEY WERE HUNTING
THIS GIRL.

Samantha Gailey Geimer:
IT WAS AWFUL.

EVERYBODY KNEW
AT SCHOOL.

PEOPLE CAME TO SCHOOL
WITH CAMERAS

AND THINGS WERE BEING
SAID AND PRINTED.

THE WORST PART WAS,

NO ONE BELIEVED ME.

EVERYBODY THOUGHT
I WAS MAKING IT UP.

IT WAS SO TRAUMATIC,

STARTING THAT NIGHT
WHEN MY MOM CALLED
THE POLICE.

AND THE POLICE COME OVER
AND THEY TAKE YOU
TO THE HOSPITAL,

THEN THEY TAKE YOU
TO THE POLICE STATION.

AND THE NEXT MORNING
WE'RE GETTING UP AT 6:30,
WE'RE GOING TO COURT

WHERE THEY'RE
GONNA SNEAK YOU IN
AND ALL THESE MEN

ARE GONNA ASK YOU
EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

THEN THEY'RE GONNA

SIT A LADY BEHIND YOU
YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE,

BECAUSE THEN THERE'S
A LADY THERE.

ALL THAT STUFF
WAS SO TRAUMATIC

THAT I NEVER
EVEN HAD A CHANCE

TO REALLY,
YOU KNOW,

WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

WHAT HAPPENED
THAT NIGHT WITH HIM.

IT WAS LIKE--

IT JUST--

I HAD TO WORRY ABOUT
SURVIVING THE NEXT DAY.

THE FACTS INDICATE THAT
BEFORE THE ALLEGED ACT

IN THIS CASE

THIS GIRL HAD ENGAGED
IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY.

THAT'S CONTAINED IN REPORTS
THAT WE NOW HAVE.

WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
WE WANT TO KNOW
WHO WAS INVOLVED WHEN.

WE WANT TO KNOW
WHY THESE OTHER PEOPLE

WERE NOT PROSECUTED.

AND THIS IS A THING
WE WANT TO FULLY DEVELOP.

Geimer:
I WOULD JUST AS SOON

HAVE WALKED AWAY FROM IT
THE NEXT DAY.

BUT YOU CAN'T STOP IT
ONCE IT STARTS.

I MEAN,

I JUST--

I JUST WENT
IN MY ROOM,

PRETTY MUCH,
AND JUST TURNED IT OFF.

Announcer:
IN "CHINATOWN,"

HE EXPOSED THE DARK SIDE
OF CORRUPTION.

IN "REPULSION,"
HE EXPLORED A WARPED MIND.

IN "ROSEMARY'S BABY,"

HE EXAMINED THE OCCULT.

NOW SOMETHING
ALTOGETHER NEW,

ALTOGETHER CHILLING--

NO ONE DOES IT TO YOU
LIKE ROMAN POLANSKI.

Gunson: I WANTED
TO FIND MORE OUT

ABOUT MR. POLANSKI.

AND LUCK HAVE IT,

THE NUART THEATRE
RIGHT DOWN THE STREET

ON SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD

HAD A POLANSKI
FILM FESTIVAL

RIGHT AFTER
THE INDICTMENT

AND BEFORE TRIAL.

Macbeth:
MURDER AND TREASON!

Rosemary:
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
TO ITS EYES?

( woman screaming )

FORGET IT, JAKE.
IT'S CHINATOWN.

Gunson:
EVERY ROMAN POLANSKI MOVIE

HAS THE THEME--

CORRUPTION MEETING INNOCENCE
OVER WATER.

( laughs )

I SAYS,
"OH, WELL, THAT'S SORT OF
WHAT WE HAVE HERE--

CORRUPTION,
ROMAN POLANSKI,

MEETING INNOCENCE,
THE 13-YEAR-OLD GIRL,

OVER WATER,
MEANING THE JACUZZI.

I FELT I WAS GOING
TO BE ABLE

TO PRETTY WELL CONVEY
TO SOME JURORS

THAT THIS HAPPENED

AND HE HAD DIRECTED
A SCENE

VERY SIMILAR TO THIS
IN HIS REAL LIFE.

Woman:
YOU'D BETTER HAVE
YOUR LEGS TIED DOWN

IN CASE OF CONVULSIONS.

Braunsberg:
"ROSEMARY'S BABY"
WAS SUCH A GREAT MOVIE

AND WAS SO WELL MADE

THAT PEOPLE TOOK IT
FOR THE REAL THING.

THIS IS NO DREAM!
THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING!

AFTER THAT ROMAN HAD
THIS REPUTATION

OF MAYBE HAVING BEEN
A LITTLE BIT

IN LEAGUE WITH THE DEVIL
HIMSELF.

IT DIDN'T HURT HIM.

PEOPLE WERE
VERY INTRIGUED

AND IT WAS
KIND OF SEXY IN A WAY.

Mia Farrow:
HE HAD A TREMENDOUS POWER
OVER PEOPLE.

YOU HAD TO FALL IN LOVE
WITH HIM, YOU KNOW.

IT WAS COMPLETELY
INFECTIOUS.

THERE WAS NO
RESISTING HIM.

AND EVERY DAY
WAS SO VIBRANT

BECAUSE HE FELT
SO PASSIONATELY

ABOUT WHAT
HE WAS DOING

AND HE WAS
ON AN ADVENTURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
YOU ARE RENOWNED FOR

IS YOUR RECKLESSNESS.
YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE
A RECKLESS PERSON.

- DO I SAY THAT?
- YOU SAY THAT
VERY FREQUENTLY

TO ALL SORTS
OF PEOPLE YOU TALK TO,
THOUGH CLEARLY

YOU'RE GOING TO DENY
EVERY SINGLE SYLLABLE
OF IT TONIGHT.

- REALLY?
- MM.

I MEAN, ARE YOU
A RECKLESS PERSON?

ARE YOU AFRAID
OF ANYTHING?

I AM RECKLESS,
BUT I DON'T TELL
PEOPLE ABOUT IT.

Male narrator:
ROMAN FOUND CALIFORNIA
FANTASTIC.

OF LOS ANGELES
HE SAYS...

Polanski:
EVERYTHING IS EASY HERE.

YOU WANT TO LEARN KARATE--
YOU CAN LEARN KARATE.

YOU WANT TO PLAY CHESS--
YOU CAN PLAY CHESS.

YOU WANT
TO DRIVE RACING CARS--

YOU CAN DRIVE
RACING CARS.

EVERYTHING IS ACCESSIBLE
IN THIS TOWN.

Hawk Koch:
"ROSEMARY'S BABY"
WAS A HUGE HIT.

ROMAN WAS
ON TOP OF THE WORLD.

NOTHING COULD
HAVE BEEN BETTER.

HE WAS IN LOVE WITH SHARON.
THEY WERE HAVING
GREAT PARTIES.

HE WAS GOING
ALL OVER THE WORLD.

Melnick:
WHEN HE WAS THE TOAST
OF THE INDUSTRY,

HE WAS HANGING OUT
WITH ALL THE PEOPLE

THAT EVERYBODY WANTED
TO HANG OUT WITH.

EVERYBODY WANTED
A PIECE OF ROMAN

BECAUSE THE WORK
WAS SO ORIGINAL.

- ROMAN, SHARON.
- HI.

THIS IS
THE VERY BEAUTIFUL
SHARON TATE

WHO I AM SURE
YOU'VE SEEN IN FILMS.

AND HER HUSBAND,
VERY TALENTED
ROMAN POLANSKI,

BEST KNOWN
FOR HIS ORIGINAL FILM
"KNIFE IN THE WATER,"

WHICH HE WROTE
AND DIRECTED.

AND HE'S ALSO
RESPONSIBLE FOR
"ROSEMARY'S BABY,"

THE PICTURE.

AND I THINK
A LITTLE LATER
WE'LL GET A CHANCE

TO SIT DOWN AND
TALK A LITTLE BIT

- ABOUT SEX AND FILMS.
- ANYTIME.

Farrow:
CERTAINLY IT WAS
A HAPPY TIME

FOR ALL OF US.

ROMAN WAS HAPPY.

HE WAS WITH
BEAUTIFUL SHARON.

EVERYONE LOVED HER.

HE LOVED HER.
I LOVED HER.

WE ALL LOVED HER.

HE WAS SO INSECURE
ABOUT SO MANY THINGS.

KNOWING ABOUT
HIS CHILDHOOD--

HE DIDN'T HAVE
THE BLUEPRINT FOR LIFE

THAT OTHERS HAD.

ONE HOPED FOR ROMAN,
YOU KNOW,

THAT THIS
BRAND-NEW LIFE

WITH A WOMAN
WHO LOVED HIM

AND WHO SEEMED
SO RIGHT FOR HIM,

WITH A BABY,

THAT THERE WOULD BE
THIS SECURITY

THAT HE HAD NOT HAD
IN HIS LIFE,

AND IN A NEW
HOMELAND.

I MEAN,
THE FUTURE WAS HIS,

WE THOUGHT.

AND THEN EVERYTHING
JUST COLLAPSED.

Braunsberg:
WELL, WE WERE
PREPARING A FILM

THAT I WAS GOING
TO PRODUCE

CALLED "THE DAY
OF THE DOLPHIN."

WE WERE WRITING
THE SCRIPT IN LONDON.

ROMAN WAS
A PERFECTIONIST.

HE WAS ALWAYS,
"WE'LL FINISH IT
IN A COUPLE OF DAYS

AND THEN DO THE REST
IN L.A."

IT WAS A SATURDAY.

AND THE PHONE RANG
AND I PICKED IT UP.

IT WAS OUR AGENT
BILL TENNANT

WHO WAS ON THE PHONE.

AND I IMMEDIATELY
REALIZED

THAT SOMETHING WAS
TERRIBLY WRONG.

I MEAN, HE WAS A VERY
STABLE KIND OF GUY.

HE WAS ABSOLUTELY
DISTRAUGHT.

AND I SAID,
"WHAT IS IT?"

AND HE SAID,
YOU KNOW,

SOMETHING LIKE
"THEY'RE ALL DEAD.
THEY'RE ALL DEAD."

I REALIZED SOMETHING
AWFUL HAD HAPPENED

AND I GAVE THE PHONE
TO ROMAN.

AND...

I'VE NEVER SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE IT.

YOU KNOW,
I SAW SOMEBODY

JUST DISINTEGRATE
IN FRONT OF MY EYES.

Reporter:
THIS WAS AT THE HOME

OF MOVIE DIRECTOR
ROMAN POLANSKI

AND IT WAS HIS WIFE
SHARON TATE WHO WAS
ONE OF THE VICTIMS.

SHE TOO HAD
REPEATED STAB WOUNDS.

ONE OF THE VICTIMS
HAD A HOOD PLACED
OVER HIS HEAD.

AND THE WORD "PIG"
WAS WRITTEN IN BLOOD
ON THE DOOR.

Braunsberg:
WE FLEW TO L.A.
THE NEXT DAY.

HE WAS DEVASTATED,

DEVASTATED TO A POINT

THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN
ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING

IN THAT KIND OF
CONDITION.

AND I REMEMBER

PICKING UP
THE SUNDAY NEWSPAPERS.

I WAS ALREADY
REASONABLY AWARE

OF HOW THE PRESS
FUNCTIONS.

THEIR BUSINESS IS
SELLING NEWSPAPERS.

THE STORY WAS BASICALLY

HOW ROMAN HAD FLOWN
TO LOS ANGELES,

MURDERED THEM ALL
AND THEN COME BACK.

I MEAN,
THIS WAS ACTUALLY

IN THE NEWSPAPERS,

IN THE HEADLINES.

THE NATURE
OF THE MURDERS,

YOU KNOW, SATANISM,
"ROSEMARY'S BABY,"

"THIS IS THE GUY WHO MADE
'ROSEMARY'S BABY.'

HE KNEW SO MUCH ABOUT IT.
HE COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN

SO MUCH ABOUT IT
WITHOUT ACTUALLY
BEING INVOLVED IN IT.

AND SO HE MUST HAVE BEEN
PART OF THE CULT.

AND THERE WAS A CULT.
AND THEY WERE MURDERED.

AND WHO GETS MURDERED
IN THIS KIND OF WAY?"

IT WAS
A TYPICAL EXAMPLE

OF THE VICTIM'S
BEING RESPONSIBLE

FOR THEIR OWN DEATH.

IT WAS SHOCKING.

IT WAS TRULY
UNBELIEVABLE.

THE LAST DAY
I TALKED TO HER

WAS A FEW HOURS BEFORE
THE TRAGEDY HAPPENED.

YOU ARE CERTAINLY CURIOUS

ABOUT MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH SHARON

WITHIN LAST FEW MONTHS.

I CAN TELL YOU
THAT THE LAST FEW MONTHS

AS MUCH AS THE LAST
FEW YEARS

I SPENT WITH HER...

WERE THE ONLY TIME

OF TRUE HAPPINESS
IN MY LIFE.

AND FACTS
WHICH WILL BE COMING OUT

DAY AFTER DAY

WILL MAKE ASHAMED

A LOT OF NEWSMEN

WHO FOR A SELFISH REASON

WRITE UNBEARABLE FOR ME,

HORRIBLE THINGS

ABOUT MY WIFE.

Braunsberg:
AFTER SHARON WAS MURDERED

REALLY EVERYBODY WAS
TOTALLY FREAKED OUT.

IT WAS A VERY
WEIRD TIME,

THE HIGHEST PARANOIA,

THE TRANSITION

OF THIS SORT OF HIPPIE
KIND OF EXISTENCE IN L.A.

TO THIS BRUTAL AWAKENING

OF AN UNDERSTANDING

THAT THESE KIND OF
ABSOLUTELY

HORRIBLE EVENTS
CAN HAPPEN.

NO ONE LOCKED
THEIR DOORS.

NO ONE THOUGHT ABOUT
THAT THERE WAS

ANY KIND OF THREAT.

THAT ENDED AT THE END
OF THE '60s

AND SIMULTANEOUSLY

CHANGED EVERYTHING
OVERNIGHT IN L.A.

Gene Gutowski:
IT WAS THE END
OF A FAIRY TALE, REALLY,

IN ROMAN'S LIFE,

IN EVERYBODY'S LIFE.

HE WOULD HAVE BEEN
A FATHER OF A SON

WHO WOULD HAVE
NOW BEEN,

WHAT, 30 YEARS OLD?

MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE HAD
OTHER CHILDREN,

PROBABLY WOULD HAVE
CONTINUED

LIVING IN CALIFORNIA.

WHO KNOWS?

HOW DOES ONE SURVIVE?

WHEN YOU KNOW
HIS CHILDHOOD--

HE'S A VERY VERY STRONG
HUMAN BEING.

Anthea Sylbert:
I THINK THAT THE IDEA

OF THE MAGNET
OF TRAGEDY

STARTED AFTER
THE TATE MURDERS.

HE WAS LIVING
OUT IN MALIBU

AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE ALL,
LIKE, HORRIFIED

BECAUSE SOMEHOW IF HE WAS
IN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR

THERE WAS GOING TO BE
ANOTHER MASS MURDER.

I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE
JUST TOO WEIRD.

I TELL YOU,
IT'S CRAZY.

Man:
HOLD IT THERE, KITTY-CAT!
HOLD IT.

HELLO, CLAUDE.
WHERE DID YOU GET
THE MIDGET?

YOU'RE A VERY NOSY FELLOW,
KITTY-CAT.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS
TO NOSY FELLOWS?

HUH? NO?

WANNA GUESS?
HUH? NO?

OKAY, THEY LOSE
THEIR NOSES.

NEXT TIME YOU'LL LOSE
THE WHOLE THING--

CUT IF OFF AND FEED IT
TO MY GOLDFISH.

Hawk Koch:
ROMAN WAS DIFFERENT

WHEN I MET HIM
ON "CHINATOWN."

HE WAS STILL A GUY
THAT LOVED LIFE.

THERE WAS JUST
THIS REAL DARK SHADOW

THAT HE HAD TO DEAL WITH
EVERY DAY--

THAT, YOU KNOW,
THERE WERE PEOPLE
WHO WERE CONSTANTLY,

"SO WHAT WAS IT LIKE,
YOU KNOW,

WHEN SHARON--
WHEN YOUR WIFE WAS KILLED?"

DO YOU HATE
CERTAIN MEMBERS
OF THE PRESS

FOR THE WAY
YOU WERE TREATED

AFTER YOUR WIFE'S
MURDER?

WELL, YES,
TO BE HONEST, I DO.

BUT I WOULDN'T CALL IT
A HATRED NOW, YOU SEE.

IT'S SOMEHOW EVOLVED
TO JUST INDIFFERENCE.

AND I SIMPLY DON'T READ IT
AND TRY TO AVOID IT.

YEAH.

BUT IN GENERAL,

I DESPISE THE PRESS
TREMENDOUSLY

FOR ITS INACCURACY,
FOR ITS IRRESPONSIBILITY

AND FOR ITS

OFTEN EVEN
DELIBERATE CRUELTY.

AND ALL THIS IS
FOR LUCRATIVE PURPOSES.

Clive James:
IF ONE OF YOUR COMPLAINTS

IS THE WAY THE PRESS
MISREPRESENTS YOU--

AND THAT IS ONE OF YOUR
COMPLAINTS, ISN'T IT?

THEN SURELY IT WOULD BE
A GOOD TACTIC

TO GIVE THEM THE MINIMUM
POSSIBLE TARGET.

YES, BUT THEN
YOU HAVE TO--

YOU HAVE TO CHANGE
YOUR LIFESTYLE

COMPLETELY
AND GO INTO HIDING.

IT SEEMS LIKE, SAY,
SIX MONTHS AFTER THE MURDERS

YOU'RE IN THE ALPS
AND CONSORTING

WITH THESE GIRLS
FROM THE FINISHING SCHOOL
AND SO ON.

I CAN SEE HOW
YOU WOULD SORT OF

TRY TO LOSE YOURSELF
LIKE THAT.

BUT IS IT WISE
TO SAY SO?

YES, IT IS WISE
TO SAY SO.

WHY NOT?

WHY WOULDN'T IT BE
WISE TO SAY SO?

THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS.

AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST--

DIFFERENT PEOPLE
HAVE DIFFERENT WAY

OF SEEING LIFE
AND RELATIONSHIPS.

IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY THE SAME
WITH YOU THAN ME.

AND PEOPLE REACT

IN DIFFERENT WAYS
TO GRIEF.

SOME GO TO A MONASTERY,

OTHERS START

VISITING WHOREHOUSES.

Sylbert:
HE DECIDED HE WAS
GONNA SURVIVE,

AND THE WAY
HE WAS GONNA SURVIVE

IS THROUGH HIS TALENT
AND HAVING FUN.

WHETHER IT WAS
DINNER FOR FOUR

AND HE WAS HOLDING COURT
WITH SOME IDEA HE HAD,

OR WHETHER
IT WAS A GROUP

OF 30 OR 40 OR 50,

HE LIKED TO BE
THE CENTER OF IT ALL.

HE WAS
A WONDERFUL HOST,

ALMOST LIKE
A DANCE MASTER.

HE KEPT IT ALL
SORT OF STIRRED.

IT GAVE HIM
ENORMOUS PLEASURE.

AND AFTER SHARON

I THINK HE DIDN'T WANT
TO BE ALONE TOO MUCH.

IT'S NOT SO GOOD
TO BE ALONE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS

THE BEST WAY TO GET
CLOSE TO YOUR DREAM

IS TO GET TO KNOW
A STAR, A REAL STAR.

POLANSKI
AFTER "CHINATOWN"

WAS NOT ONLY
A REAL STAR,

HE WAS
"THE ROMAN POLANSKI,"

A BIG NAME.

SHE WOULDN'T MIND
BEING DISCOVERED

BY A MAN LIKE
ROMAN POLANSKI.

AFTER ALL, SHE HAD SEEN
IN THE FRENCH "VOGUE"

PICTURES OF
NASTASSJA KINSKI

WHO WAS 15
WHEN SHE STARTED

HER AFFAIR
WITH ROMAN POLANSKI,

OR ROMAN STARTED IT
WITH HER.

AND EVERYBODY HAD
THE OPINION

IF POLANSKI
WOULDN'T HAVE DONE

THIS PHOTO LAYOUT
WITH NASTASSJA,

SHE WOULD HAVE
NEVER BECOME

SUCH A WELL-KNOWN
YOUNG STAR.

Geimer:
HE WAS A FRIEND
OF A GUY

MY SISTER WAS DATING.

AND HE WANTED GIRLS
TO MODEL.

AND I WAS MODELING
AND ACTING

AND WANTED, YOU KNOW,
TO BE IN THE BUSINESS.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW.

WE SIGNED RIGHT UP.
"SURE, HAVE MY
PICTURES TAKEN

BY ROMAN POLANSKI.
SOUNDS GREAT."

Preute:
SUSIE GAILY,

THE MOTHER
OF THE ALLEGED VICTIM,

INTRODUCED HERSELF

AS AN ACTRESS
TO POLANSKI.

AND SHE HAD DONE
SOME WORK IN FILMS.

WELL, I WAS INNOCENT, SEE.

AND THAT'S THE TRUTH.

WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY?

I REMEMBER VAGUELY

MEETING THE MOTHER
AT SOME PARTY--

YOU KNOW,
LIKE, "HI."

AND THEN I WAS AWAY

AND THEN HEARD
ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

BUT JUST
IN WHAT I WAS TOLD

AND WHAT I READ,

I KEPT GOING BACK
TO THE SAME QUESTION--

"WHY DID THE MOTHER

BRING HER
13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER
INTO THIS GROUP?"

ESPECIALLY IF SHE HAD
SPENT TIME WITH THEM

AND ALL THE THINGS
THAT SHE SAID SUBSEQUENTLY

WERE TRUE--
WOULDN'T YOU KEEP

YOUR 13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER
AWAY FROM THAT?

YOU KNOW,
THIS WAS A GUY

THAT HAD A PRETTY
WILD REPUTATION.

HE WAS KNOWN
AS A WOMANIZER.

HE'S A PARTYGOER.

HE CERTAINLY HAD
A LOT OF WOMEN
OVER THE YEARS

AND HE LOVED
YOUNG WOMEN.

WHY WOULD HER MOTHER
ALLOW HER

TO BE ALONE
WITH POLANSKI?

I DON'T LIKE--
YOU ALWAYS GET THE
"WHERE WAS YOUR MOM?"

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW,
GIVE MY MOM A BREAK.

YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT HER FAULT.

AND SO...

YOU KNOW,
I DON'T LIKE HEARING

ANYBODY'S OPINION ON IT.

LIKE, EVERY TIME
SOMEONE BRINGS IT UP,

AND THEY'RE DOING
THEIR LITTLE, YOU KNOW,
BANTER ON T.V.

IT'S LIKE,
YOU WEREN'T THERE.
YOU DON'T KNOW.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
YOU'RE SAYING HOW I FELT,

WHAT HAPPENED,
HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT POLANSKI.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
AND YOU'RE ON THE NEWS

MAKING ALL THESE
STATEMENTS

AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
ARE LISTENING TO YOU
AND... SHUT UP.

ANOTHER HEARING
ON THE ADMISSIBILITY

OF THE BEVERLY WILSHIRE
HOTEL RECORDS

HAS BEEN SET
FOR NEXT FRIDAY.

FROM SANTA MONICA,
FERNELL CHAPMAN,

NEWS CENTER 4.

I WAS INSTRUMENTAL

IN ARRANGING
THE PLEA BARGAIN

BECAUSE AS I LOOKED

AT THIS FAMILY AND SAMANTHA,
I THOUGHT--

AT THE TIME
SOME PEOPLE KNEW
HER NAME

AND SOME
OF THE KIDS AT SCHOOL
KNEW WHO SHE WAS.

I THOUGHT
IT WAS IMPORTANT

TO TRY TO MAINTAIN
HER ANONYMITY,

ANONYMITY WHICH
WOULD HAVE DISAPPEARED

IF THE CASE
HAD GONE TO TRIAL.

AND SO I TRIED TO PERSUADE
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY

WHO HAD A NEW
PLEA BARGAINING POLICY,

A TOUGH PLEA BARGAINING
POLICY.

I SAID, "I'M NOT
GONNA DO IT.

I HAVE NO INTEREST
IN DOING IT."

AND SO WHAT HE
DECIDED WAS--

HE SAYS,
"WELL, I'M GONNA
DO IT MYSELF."

( siren wailing )

Gunson:
THE L.A.P.D. BROUGHT

THE EVIDENCE ENVELOPE

TO THIS COURTHOUSE
BUILDING

AND BROUGHT IT IN,
ACTUALLY, TO THIS ROOM.

THERE WERE ABOUT
FIVE, SIX OR SEVEN MEN

STANDING AROUND,

LOOKING, PEERING DOWN

AT THIS EVIDENCE ENVELOPE

AND SOMEONE TAKES IT
AND TURNS IT AND OPENS IT

AND OUT FALLS

THESE LITTLE GIRL'S
PANTIES.

AND SO THERE WAS

THIS ENORMOUS
COURT BATTLE

OVER PROPERTY
THAT BELONGED TO HER

AS TO WHAT WAS
TO BE DONE WITH THEM.

AND JUDGE RITTENBAND
DECIDED

TO CUT IT IN HALF

AND GIVE HALF
TO THE PROSECUTION

AND HALF
TO THE DEFENSE.

THE DEFENSE EXPERT WENT OVER
AND PUT ON HIS LATEX GLOVES

AND CAME BACK
AND THEN STARTED

OPERATING ON THESE
COPPER PANTIES.

IF YOU CAN IMAGINE
THE HUMOR

OF ABOUT SEVEN MEN
SITTING AROUND A TABLE...

...TRYING TO IDENTIFY
ANY STAINS

AND TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE CUT, OR THE PIECE,

INCLUDES PART
OF THAT STAIN.

AND THEY WERE FIGHTING--
"NO NO, IT HAS TO BE

JUST A LITTLE TO THIS WAY.
NO, IT SHOULD BE OVER HERE.

WE SHOULDN'T CUT THAT WAY
AT ALL, WE SHOULD CUT--"

SO FINALLY
THEY MADE THE CUT.

WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD WAS

THAT DALTON WAS GOING
TO TAKE HIS HALF

AND SUBMIT IT
TO A LAB.

I ALSO UNDERSTOOD
THAT THE LAB

WAS ABOUT TO GIVE
ITS REPORT IN TWO WEEKS.

AND TWO WEEKS
AND THREE DAYS LATER

DALTON CALLED ME
ON THE PHONE,

CLEARLY NOW,
I THINK,

HAVING THE RESULTS
OF THE LAB REPORT,

SAYING, YOU KNOW,

"WHAT DO YOU THINK
WOULD HAPPEN

IF WE PURSUED
A PLEA BARGAIN

WITH THE PROSECUTION?"

AT WHICH POINT--
AT THAT POINT I REALIZED

THAT NOW POLANSKI
HAD AN INTEREST,

THAT THE STAIN
IN THE PANTIES

WAS GOING TO BE BRUTAL
EVIDENCE FOR THEM.

Dalton:
THE PROSECUTION
HAD LOADED POLANSKI UP

WITH MULTIPLE CHARGES.

THE ONLY ONE
HE WAS WILLING TO ADMIT

AND TO PLEAD GUILTY TO

WAS THAT HE HAD HAD

CONSENSUAL SEX
WITH THE MINOR.

Gunson:
MR. DALTON ASKED,

"COULD IT BE
A MISDEMEANOR--"

AND I SAYS, "NO."

"--THAT HE NOT GO
TO STATE PRISON?"

I SAYS, "NO, THAT'S GOT
TO BE OPEN."

AND SO HE AGREED
TO ALL THOSE

AND WE AGREED
THAT IT'D BE UNLAWFUL
SEXUAL INTERCOURSE--

THE LOWEST COUNT

THAT RELATED
TO THE GRAVAMEN.

Dalton:
THE AGREEMENT WAS

THAT POLANSKI
WOULD PLEAD GUILTY

TO THE ONE COUNT,

THAT HE WOULD BE
SENTENCED

BASED UPON
THE PROBATION REPORT

AND THE ARGUMENT
OF COUNSEL.

AT THAT TIME
THE SENTENCE

FOR UNLAWFUL
SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WAS

WHAT THEY CHARACTERIZED
AS AN INDETERMINATE
SENTENCE,

SO YOU'RE SENT
TO STATE PRISON

FOR ANYWHERE
FROM SIX MONTHS
TO 50 YEARS.

I CHECKED AND
THERE HADN'T BEEN ANYONE

SENT TO PRISON
FOR A CONVICTION
OF THIS OFFENSE

IN THE YEAR PRECEDING

ROMAN POLANSKI'S CASE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS
A VERY GOOD DISPOSITION,

FOR THE REASON
THAT IT VINDICATED

THE FAMILY AND THE GIRL

AND IT EXPOSED
MR. POLANSKI

TO SIGNIFICANT
TIME IN CUSTODY

BASED UPON
A PROBATION REPORT.

Reporter:
BY ENTERING
HIS GUILTY PLEA,

POLANSKI AVOIDED
GOING TO TRIAL,

A TRIAL THAT WAS
TO HAVE BEGUN TOMORROW,

THE EIGHTH ANNIVERSARY
OF HIS WIFE'S DEATH

AT THE HANDS OF
THE CHARLES MANSON FAMILY.

STANDING WITH HIS LAWYER
DOUGLAS DALTON,

POLANSKI WAS ASKED
BY DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY
ROGER GUNSON

TO WHAT COUNT
HE PLEADED GUILTY.

POLANSKI:
"I HAD INTERCOURSE

WITH A FEMALE PERSON,
NOT MY WIFE,

WHO WAS UNDER
18 YEARS OF AGE."

GUNSON:
"HOW OLD DID YOU THINK
THE GIRL WAS?"

POLANSKI:
"I UNDERSTOOD SHE WAS 13."

THE PLEA BARGAINING
WAS THE RESULT

OF A REQUEST BY ATTORNEY
LAWRENCE SILVER,

REPRESENTING
THE GIRL'S FAMILY.

SILVER ASKED
JUDGE LAWRENCE RITTENBAND

TO ACCEPT THE PLEA
AND PROTECT THE GIRL

FROM THE GLARE
OF PUBLICITY.

SILVER:
"A STIGMA WOULD ATTACH
TO HER FOR A LIFETIME

AND JUSTICE IS NOT MADE
OF SUCH STUFF."

JUDGE RITTENBAND
IN ACCEPTING THE GUILTY PLEA

ORDERED POLANSKI
TO BE EXAMINED BY
TWO PSYCHIATRISTS.

SENTENCING WILL COME
AFTER THAT,

WHEN THE JUDGE COULD
DECLARE THE DIRECTOR

A MENTALLY DISORDERED
SEX OFFENDER.

THAT COULD
RESULT IN COMMITMENT
TO A STATE MENTAL HOSPITAL.

OTHER POSSIBLE SENTENCES
INCLUDE

ONE YEAR
IN COUNTY JAIL,

UP TO 50 YEARS
IN A STATE PRISON,

DEPORTATION
OR PROBATION.

WE TOOK OUR CHANCES,
OBVIOUSLY, HERE

BECAUSE WE HAD NO IDEA
OR NO WAY OF KNOWING

WHAT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT
WOULD CONCLUDE.

Dr. Ronald Markman:
JUDGE RITTENBAND
APPOINTED ME

TO EVALUATE MR. POLANSKI
FOR PURPOSES OF DETERMINING

WHETHER HE WAS
AT THAT TIME

A MENTALLY DISORDERED
SEX OFFENDER,

WHICH WAS A LEGAL TERM

HAVING TO DO
WITH AN INDIVIDUAL

WHO, BY REASON
OF A MENTAL DISORDER,

WAS PREDISPOSED

TO THE COMMISSION
OF SEXUAL OFFENSES

THAT RENDERED HIM
A DANGER

TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
OF OTHERS.

HE WAS
A VERY CONGENIAL

BUT SOMEWHAT
RESERVED GUY

WHO WAS
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD

IN THE INTERVIEW.

AS EXPERIENCES GO,

ROMAN POLANSKI
HAS HAD MORE

THAN WHAT WOULD IMPACT
ON A DOZEN PEOPLE,

IN TERMS OF HIS LIFE
AS A CHILD, CONFUSION.

AND ULTIMATELY HE GETS
WHAT HE FEELS

IS A STABLE
RELATIONSHIP

AND THAT'S TAKEN
AWAY FROM HIM

AT THE SNAP
OF A FINGER.

HE HAD DIFFICULTY

IN DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS
WITH WOMEN AFTER THAT.

I THINK HE FELT
VERY VERY HESITANT,

MAYBE OUT OF FEAR.

MY OPINION PARALLELED

THE RECOMMENDATION

OF THE PROBATION
DEPARTMENT.

I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
WHETHER HE SHOULD OR
SHOULD NOT GO TO JAIL.

I REALLY FOCUSED SOLELY
ON THE PSYCHIATRIC ISSUES.

AND IT WAS MY OPINION
THAT MR. POLANSKI

DID NOT QUALIFY
AS A MENTALLY DISORDERED
SEX OFFENDER

AND SHOULD NOT BE
HANDLED AS SUCH.

Wells:
MY FEELING WAS

THE GUY BELONGED
IN STATE PRISON.

RITTENBAND HAD ASKED ME
ABOUT IT.

I SAID, "JUDGE,
YOU'RE GONNA GIVE
THIS GUY PROBATION."

HE SAID, "NO NO, I WANT
TO SEND HIM TO JAIL.

I SAID,
"YOU'LL NEVER DO IT.

BECAUSE THE FIRST THING
THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN

WHEN YOU SENTENCE HIM IS,
HE'S GONNA APPEAL IT."

"I'M GONNA GIVE HIM
A YEAR IN A COUNTY JAIL"--

THAT WOULD BE THE SENTENCE
THEY'D APPEAL IMMEDIATELY.

"I'M GONNA GIVE HIM WEEKENDS
IN A COUNTY JAIL"--

IMMEDIATE APPEAL.

NO MATTER WHAT
THE SENTENCE WAS

IF IT INCLUDED
A DAY IN JAIL,

DALTON, AND CORRECTLY SO,
WOULD HAVE APPEALED IT.

AND IT'S GONNA GO
ALL THE WAY UP

TO THE STATE
SUPREME COURT.

HE HAS THE MONEY
AND HE'LL TAKE IT

TO THE U.S. SUPREME COURT
IF HE THINKS HE CAN.

HE SAYS, "WELL, WHAT AM I
GOING TO DO?"

Brenneman:
THE JUDGE CALLED ME
INTO CHAMBERS.

HE LOOKED AT ME
AND SAID,

"DICK, TELL ME,

WHAT THE HELL DO I DO
WITH POLANSKI?"

I WENT,
"WHOA, YOUR HONOR,

THAT'S YOUR DECISION,

THAT'S NOT MINE.
I'M A REPORTER.

I CAN'T ADVISE YOU
ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT."

I HADN'T BEEN COVERING
COURTS THAT LONG,

BUT I KNEW
A DECISION BY A JUDGE

WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
A DECISION BY A JUDGE

AND WAS NOT TO TAKE IN
ANY ADVICE

FROM ANY OTHER PERSON

OTHER THAN WHAT WAS THERE
IN THE LAW BOOKS,

WHAT HAD BEEN ENTERED
INTO EVIDENCE
IN THE CASE.

Wells:
HE SAYS, "WELL, WHAT AM I
GOING TO DO?

OR WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

I SAID, "YOU KNOW,
WHAT YOU SHOULD DO

IS SEND HIM UP
FOR 90-DAY OBSERVATION."

A "12.03.03"
IS A DIAGNOSTIC STUDY

WHERE A DEFENDANT
ON A FELONY CASE

IS SENT TO CHINO
FOR A 90-DAY OBSERVATION.

IT'S LIKE AN IN-DEPTH
PROBATION REPORT.

AND HE SAID, "WELL,
WHAT WILL THAT DO?"

I SAID, "IT'S NOT
A FINAL SENTENCE.

HE CAN'T APPEAL IT.
HE HAS TO GO."

WE WERE VERY PLEASED

WHEN WE GOT
THE PROBATION REPORT.

IT RECOMMENDED
THAT POLANSKI SERVE

NO TIME IN CUSTODY

AND RECEIVE A STRAIGHT
PROBATIONARY SENTENCE.

HOWEVER, WE RECEIVED A CALL
FROM JUDGE RITTENBAND

ASKING US TO COME
TO CHAMBERS,

THAT HE WANTED TO DISCUSS
THE MATTER WITH US.

A PROBATION OFFICER,
ROGER GUNSON AND I

ALL WENT
INTO HIS CHAMBERS

FOR A MEETING.

AT THAT TIME
THE JUDGE SAID

HE WAS NOT GOING
TO FOLLOW

THE RECOMMENDATION
OF THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.

HE HAD DECIDED

THAT AS PUNISHMENT
FOR POLANSKI

HE WAS GOING TO SEND HIM
TO THE STATE PRISON
AT CHINO

FOR A DIAGNOSTIC STUDY.

GUNSON AND THE PROBATION
OFFICER BOTH PROTESTED.

I TOLD HIM
THAT THE LAW WAS

THAT THE DIAGNOSTIC STUDY

WAS NOT TO BE USED
AS PUNISHMENT

OR AS SOMEONE'S
SENTENCE.

THE COURTS ARE NOT
SUPPOSED TO USE THAT.

AND HIS RESPONSE WAS,

"I DON'T WANT
TO SEND MR. POLANSKI

TO COUNTY JAIL

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
TO BE RESPONSIBLE

IF HE WERE TO BE INJURED
OR KILLED."

I SAID, "JUDGE,
WE HAD NOT EXPECTED THIS.

POLANSKI IS ENGAGED
RIGHT NOW

IN DIRECTING
A LARGE MOVIE

THAT INVOLVES MANY PEOPLE,
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE
A TREMENDOUS HARDSHIP."

AND HE SUGGESTED

THAT I REQUEST A STAY,

THE "STAY" MEANING
"TO DEFER"

OR PUT OFF
THIS DIAGNOSTIC STUDY

IN ORDER FOR POLANSKI
TO BE ABLE

TO COMPLETE HIS WORK
ON THE FILM.

Dalton:
WHAT HE WANTED
TO DO WAS

HAVE US GO OUT
INTO OPEN COURT

AND PRETEND AS THOUGH--

I DON'T KNOW IF HE USED
THE WORD "PRETEND,"

BUT NOT TO DIVULGE
THAT WE KNEW

WHAT WAS GOING
TO HAPPEN.

HE SAID,
"I WANT YOU TO GO OUT,

GUNSON, AND YOU ARGUE

THAT POLANSKI SHOULD BE
PLACED IN CUSTODY.

AND DALTON, YOU GO OUT
AND YOU ARGUE

THAT HE SHOULD BE
PUT ON PROBATION.

THEN I WILL MAKE
MY REMARKS

AND I WILL SENTENCE HIM
TO CHINO

FOR THE DIAGNOSTIC STUDY.

AND THE PRESS
NEED NOT KNOW

ANYTHING MORE
ABOUT THIS.

IF YOU DO NOT TELL
THE PRESS ABOUT THIS

AND IF POLANSKI RECEIVES
A GOOD REPORT

FROM THE PROBATION
DEPARTMENT,

WHICH WE ALL ARE
QUITE SURE HE WILL,

THAT WILL CONCLUDE
HIS PUNISHMENT."

I WASN'T GOING TO ARGUE
ABOUT IT.

POLANSKI'S FATE
HUNG IN THE BALANCE.

IF I STARTED PROTESTING

ABOUT THE DIAGNOSTIC STUDY

RITTENBAND COULD
WELL HAVE SAID,

"WELL, I'LL JUST
SEND HIM TO PRISON.

HOW WOULD YOU
LIKE THAT?"

THAT WAS
THE... FABRICATION

THAT HE--

THE SCENARIO THAT HE
WANTED TO PRESENT

AND HE DID PRESENT.

Dalton:
THIS THING HAD REACHED
THE POINT

WHERE IT WAS ACTUALLY
BECOMING SURREAL.

GUNSON AND I WALKED
INTO THE COURTROOM

WHICH WAS PACKED

WITH NEWSMEN
AND SPECTATORS.

WE TOOK OUR PLACES
AT THE COUNSEL TABLE,

SAT DOWN AND WAITED

FOR THE ENTRANCE
OF JUDGE RITTENBAND.

I ARGUED FIRST.

IT WAS A VERY
STRANGE FEELING

TO BE ARGUING
WHEN I KNEW EXACTLY

WHAT THE RESULT
WAS GOING TO BE.

IT WAS LIKE HAVING
A MOCK TRIAL.

IN LAW SCHOOL
WE DID THIS,

WE HAD STAGED TRIALS
AND SO FORTH,

BUT EVEN THEN WE DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT RESULT WAS
GOING TO BE.

BUT WE DUTIFULLY
WENT OUT.

I ARGUED
FOR PROBATION.

I TRIED TO MAKE IT SOUND
AS AUTHENTIC AS I COULD.

GUNSON GOT UP
AND MADE HIS ARGUMENT.

AND THEN RITTENBAND
PROCEEDED

TO GIVE HIS
CLOSING REMARKS

WHICH HAD BEEN
OBVIOUSLY

PREPARED IN ADVANCE.

HE ARGUED MUCH BETTER
THAN EITHER ONE OF US.

AND AS I SAT THERE
AND LISTENED, I THOUGHT,

"I THINK I SEE
WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

HE KNOWS THAT THIS IS
A PROBATION CASE.

THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT
HAS RECOMMENDED PROBATION.

CHINO WILL VERY LIKELY
RECOMMEND THE SAME THING.

AND HE WANTS
TO CONDITION

THE PRESS AND PUBLIC
TO THE FACT

THAT WHEN HE PUTS POLANSKI
ON PROBATION,

THAT THEY SEE
THE BASIS THAT HE USED

IN ARRIVING
AT THAT CONCLUSION."

Female reporter:
AFTER 20 MINUTES
IN COURT

BEFORE SUPERIOR JUDGE
LAWRENCE RITTENBAND,

FILM DIRECTOR
ROMAN POLANSKI

AND HIS LAWYER
DOUGLAS DALTON

EMERGED
FROM THE COURTROOM

AMIDST A CRUSH OF
REPORTERS AND CAMERAMEN.

DALTON HAD ASKED
THE COURT

TO PLACE POLANSKI
ON PROBATION,

ARGUING THAT,
THOUGH THE CRIME

OF UNLAWFUL INTERCOURSE
IS A SERIOUS ONE,

IT IS NOT
A UNIQUE CRIME.

THE PROSECUTOR,
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY
ROGER GUNSON,

ASKED THAT POLANSKI
BE PLACED IN CUSTODY,

THOUGH IT WAS NOTED

THAT THE 13-YEAR-OLD GIRL
IN THE CASE AND HER FAMILY

HAD ASKED THE COURT
NOT TO INCARCERATE
THE FILM DIRECTOR.

ON THE BASIS OF TWO
PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATIONS,

THE JUDGE RULED
THAT POLANSKI WAS NOT

A MENTALLY DISORDERED
SEX OFFENDER,

BUT HE DID ORDER POLANSKI
TO UNDERGO

90-DAYS' FURTHER
PSYCHIATRIC TESTING

AT CHINO STATE PRISON,

POSTPONING
A FINAL SENTENCE

UNTIL THE TESTING
IS COMPLETED.

JUDGE RITTENBAND
GRANTED POLANSKI

A THREE-MONTH STAY
TO CONCLUDE HIS
PRESENT WORK.

AT THE END OF THAT TIME
THE FILM DIRECTOR

WILL GO
TO CHINO STATE PRISON

FOR 90-DAYS'
DIAGNOSTIC TESTING.

ROBIN GROTH, N.B.C. NEWS,
SANTA MONICA.

- WHY ARE YOU LEAVING
THE COUNTRY, SIR?
- SORRY?

- WHY ARE YOU
LEAVING THE COUNTRY?
- WHERE?

YOU'RE GONNA
LEAVE THE COUNTRY
ON A BUSINESS TRIP?

- YES.
- CAN YOU TELL US
ABOUT THAT TRIP?

I'M GOING TO PARIS.

WILL YOU COME BACK?

WILL I COME BACK?

I CERTAINLY WILL.
DON'T WORRY.

DINO JUST CALLED UP
AND SAID,

"WONDERFUL NEWS.
MY GOD, LORENZO,
WE GOT ROMAN.

WE GOT ROMAN."

IT WAS A POTBOILER--

PEARL DIVERS
GETTING CAUGHT
IN A GIANT CLAM

AND ALL THAT STUFF.

AND ROMAN HAD
REASONABLE CONTEMPT
FOR THE SCRIPT--

NOT A PICTURE
THAT ROMAN WOULD
HAVE DONE.

AND I IMAGINE-- AGAIN,
I DIDN'T DISCUSS IT,

BUT BASICALLY NOBODY ELSE,
I PRESUME,

WOULD HIRE HIM
AT THAT TIME.

AND DE LAURENTIIS,

SEEING A CHANCE TO GET
A GREAT DIRECTOR

WHO OTHERWISE HE COULDN'T
POSSIBLY HAVE APPROACHED

FOR THIS PROJECT,
STEPPED IN IMMEDIATELY.

IT WAS A COUP,
A TRIUMPH,

YOU KNOW,
TAKING ADVANTAGE

OF THIS GUY'S TROUBLES
TO SOME EXTENT.

BETTER LUCK FOR ROMAN
WOULD HAVE BEEN A JUDGE

THAT NEVER ALLOWED HIM
TO GO TO EUROPE AT ALL.

ROMAN CALLED ME AND SAID,
"LISTEN,

I'M HERE IN MUNICH.
CAN WE MEET?"

I SAID,
"OF COURSE."

AND WE DECIDED TO GO
IN THE EVENING

TO SEE
THE OKTOBERFEST.

ROMAN ACTUALLY
DIDN'T WANT TO GO

BUT WE SAID,
"YOU HAVE TO SEE THAT

BECAUSE THIS IS
UNBELIEVABLE.

YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN
10,000 PEOPLE

IN A TENT, DRUNKEN.

I MEAN,
YOU MUST SEE THAT."

HE SAID, "OKAY,
I'LL GO WITH YOU."

SO FINALLY WE WENT
TO A SPECIAL BOX.

I WAS
WITH MY GIRLFRIEND

AND TWO OTHER GIRLFRIENDS,
YOU KNOW?

( Istvan Bajzat
speaking German )

Braunsberg:
MOST UNFORTUNATELY,

HE WAS PHOTOGRAPHED,
CAUGHT IN A POSE

SITTING IN BETWEEN
TWO GIRLS.

IT WAS QUITE INNOCENT,
BUT, YOU KNOW,
PHOTOGRAPHS--

THEY SAY A PHOTOGRAPH
DOESN'T LIE.

NOTHING LIES
MORE THAN A PHOTOGRAPH.

Lorenzo Semple, Jr.:
ROMAN ALWAYS DID HAVE
BAD LUCK.

THIS IS THE KIND OF THING
THAT A CAUTIOUS PERSON

WOULD NOT HAVE DREAMED
OF DOING.

I MEAN, THEY WOULD
HAVE HAD THEMSELVES

PHOTOGRAPHED
IN THE CATHEDRAL

OR DOING
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT ONE PHOTOGRAPH
CHANGED EVERYTHING.

I TOOK IT
INTO RITTENBAND

BECAUSE I FIGURED
IT WAS SOMETHING
HE OUGHT TO SEE.

AND WHAT I TOLD HIM WAS,
"YOU KNOW, JUDGE,

YOU'VE MADE
SO MANY MISTAKES,
I THINK, IN THIS CASE.

LOOKIT, HE'S
GIVING YOU THE FINGER.
HE'S FLIPPING YOU OFF.

HAVEN'T YOU HAD
ENOUGH OF THIS?"

HE SAYS,
"WHAT? WHAT?

HE'S NOT GETTING AWAY
WITH THAT."

THE JUDGE
BECAME FURIOUS

WHEN THIS APPEARED
IN THE PAPER.

HE WAS INTERVIEWED

BY A HOLLYWOOD
GOSSIP COLUMNIST,
MARILYN BECK.

RITTENBAND TOLD ME
THAT HE HAD BEEN DUPED.

I REALLY BELIEVE
HE HAD BEEN DUPED.

Dalton:
IN THE INTERVIEW HE SAID

THAT VERY POSSIBLY
HE WANTED

POLANSKI BACK
IN THE COUNTRY

AND POLANSKI
COULD BE ON HIS WAY
TO PRISON NOW.

Gunson:
THAT PHOTOGRAPH
EMBARRASSED THE JUDGE.

MR. POLANSKI
IS SUPPOSED TO BE

VERY FOCUSED AND INTENT
WHEN HE'S WORKING.

AND THIS PHOTOGRAPH
DEMONSTRATED

THAT AT THAT MOMENT
IN TIME HE WAS NOT.

Man:
WHY WAS HE IN GERMANY?

HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
WORKING HARD ON A MOVIE.

COULD YOU
CLEAR UP THAT CURRENT
MISUNDERSTANDING?

Fred Sidewater:
THE JUDGE ORDERED ROMAN

TO COME BACK
TO THE STATES

AND HE CALLED DINO IN
TO TESTIFY.

DINO EXPLAINED

THROUGH ME
AS THE TRANSLATOR

THAT WE WERE GOING ON
WITH THE PRODUCTION

AND THE PREPARATION
OF THE PRODUCTION,

AND THAT THIS WAS
JUST PART

OF THE WHOLE THING
OF MAKING MOVIES.

Man:
MR. DE LAURENTIIS,
COULD YOU EXPLAIN

WHY YOU SENT MR. POLANSKI
TO GERMANY?

Sidewater:
ROMAN WAS STILL WORKING
WHEN HE WAS IN MUNICH

BECAUSE THE DISTRIBUTOR
CONVINCED ROMAN

TO COME THERE
AND SPEND THE NIGHT

OR GO OUT
FOR A FEW DRINKS

AND AT THE SAME TIME
TALK ABOUT "HURRICANE."

I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED.
I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED.

Sidewater:
I DON'T THINK
THE JUDGE KNEW THAT

OR UNDERSTOOD THAT.

AND MOST OF ALL,
HE DIDN'T BELIEVE IT.

Man:
OKAY, NOW STEP ASIDE, PLEASE.
LET 'EM THROUGH.

Dalton:
DE LAURENTIIS TESTIFIED,
ROMAN TESTIFIED.

THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE
AT ALL TO THE CONTRARY.

I RESTED MY CASE.

AND THE RULING HAD TO BE,
OF COURSE,

THAT HE WAS THERE
ON BUSINESS PURPOSES.

AND THAT WAS THE FINDING
OF THE JUDGE.

I TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW,
"YOU JUST HAVE TO BEAR UP

AND GO THROUGH THIS

AND REMEMBER
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS

THIS CASE
WILL BE OVER.

YOU'LL HAVE NO FURTHER
TIME IN CUSTODY

AND IT WILL ALL BE
BEHIND YOU."

Man:
THAT'S DALTON?

Man #2:
YEAH, THAT WAS DALTON,
HIS LAWYER.

MR. DALTON, HAS MR. POLANSKI
TALKED TO YOU

ABOUT HIS REACTION
TO COMING HERE

FOR THIS ALMOST
THREE-MONTH PERIOD?

YES, HE HAS.
EXCUSE ME,

I HAVE SOME BUSINESS
TO CONDUCT IN HERE.

HAS HE INDICATED TO YOU
AS TO WHAT HIS
FEELINGS ARE?

Man:
MR. POLANSKI, DO YOU HAVE
ANY STATEMENT AT ALL?

MR. POLANSKI,
DO YOU HAVE ANY
STATEMENT AT ALL?

MR. POLANSKI,
DO YOU HAVE ANY
STATEMENT AT ALL

REGARDING THIS
90-DAY PSYCHIATRIC STUDY
THAT YOU'VE COME IN FOR?

- NO.
- NO STATEMENT WHATSOEVER?

WHAT ARE YOUR
IMMEDIATE THOUGHTS
RIGHT NOW?

ANY THOUGHTS THAT
YOU HAVE AT ALL?

Reporter:
WILL HE BE GIVEN ANY SPECIAL
CONSIDERATION HERE?

NOTHING OTHER
THAN ANYBODY ELSE
THAT WOULD COME IN.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
SPECIAL HOUSING

AND SPECIAL CONSIDERATION,
WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT IS--

EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN,
WE SCREEN THEM

FOR POSSIBLE PROTECTIVE
CUSTODY HOUSING.

BUT WE'RE CONCERNED
FOR HIS SAFETY.

Koch:
THERE WERE SKETCHES.
THERE WERE LOCATIONS.

PEOPLE HAD BEEN
UP TO CHINO AND
TALKED TO ROMAN.

I MEAN, HE WAS PREPPING
THE MOVIE FROM CHINO.

DINO AND I
WENT TO VISIT ROMAN.

DINO, OF COURSE,
WAS CONCERNED

AS TO WHAT WAS GOING
TO HAPPEN WITH HIS FILM.

I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED
WHEN WE SAW ROMAN.

WE WERE SITTING OUTSIDE
AT A TABLE,

OUTSIDE OF THE PRISON.
HE WAS NERVOUS,

ALWAYS LOOKING
OVER HIS SHOULDER

TO SEE WHAT WAS
IN BACK OF HIM.

HE SAID THAT HE WAS
CONCERNED ABOUT

WHAT THE OTHER PRISONERS
WOULD DO TO HIM

IF THEY COULD
GET NEAR HIM

BECAUSE
HE WAS ACCUSED

OF BEING
A CHILD MOLESTER.

Braunsberg:
IT WAS VERY GRIM

AND IT WAS A VERY
FRIGHTENING PLACE.

YOU KNOW,
THIS IS A HARD CORE--

YOU KNOW, MURDERERS.

ROMAN WAS NOT
SAFE THERE.

PEOPLE GET
KILLED THERE.

POLANSKI OF COURSE
WAS DELIGHTED.

HE FELT,
AS PROPERLY HE SHOULD,

THAT HE HAD
LIVED UP

TO HIS OBLIGATIONS
IN THE CASE--

HE HAD ADMITTED
HIS GUILT,

HE SERVED THE SENTENCE
THAT HAD BEEN IMPOSED--

AND NOW IT WAS OVER
AND HE COULD GO ON
WITH HIS LIFE.

Gunson:
I WAS QUITE SURPRISED.

EVERYONE IN THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM IS AWARE

THAT 90-DAY
DIAGNOSTIC STUDIES

TAKE LESS THAN
90 DAYS.

THERE ARE NOT
VERY MANY PEOPLE,
I WOULD GUESS,

WHO HAVE HAD
THE EXPERIENCE OF IT
ONLY BEING 42.

THAT'S NOT A PUNISHMENT.
A PUNISHMENT--

YOU KNOW, HE WAS CHARGED
WITH VERY SERIOUS CRIMES.

YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT CRIMES

THAT WOULD INCUR
STATE PRISON TIME,

MAYBE 10, 15, 20 YEARS
IN STATE PRISON.

A 13-YEAR-OLD GIRL,

WHERE HE HAD SEXUAL
INTERCOURSE WITH HER,

SODOMIZED HER,
GAVE HER DRUGS,

GAVE HER ALCOHOL.

Vannatter:
HE GOT OFF WITH NOTHING.

Male reporter::
MR. GUNSON, IT'S USUALLY
THE PRACTICE

OF THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

TO PROSECUTE THE DEFENDANT
TO THE FULLEST DEGREE.

YOU'VE DEVIATED APPARENTLY
IN THIS CASE. WHY?

Female reporter:
WHY DID YOU AGREE TO
COPPING OUT ON THE PLEA

IF HE SHOULD
HAVE HAD A FULL TRIAL
WITH CHARGES?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN,
"COPPING OUT"?

Gunson:
BETWEEN THE TIME
THAT THE JUDGE AGREED

THAT THE 90-DAY
DIAGNOSTIC STUDY
BE HIS SENTENCE,

THERE HAD BEEN LOTS
OF NEWS MEDIA REPORTS

VERY CRITICAL
OF THE JUDGE.

AND NOW THAT IT APPEARS
THAT MR. POLANSKI

WILL BE WALKING AWAY
FROM A RAPE

AFTER JUST SERVING
42 DAYS,

IT'S GOING TO BE
EMBARRASSING TO THE JUDGE

AND HE NEEDS
TO OVERCOME IT.

Koch: MY FATHER WAS
AT THE HILLCREST
COUNTRY CLUB

WASHING HIS HANDS
IN THE LOCKER ROOM,

AND STANDING NEXT TO HIM
WAS JUDGE RITTENBAND.

AND ONE OF GENTLEMEN
AT HILLCREST

CAME UP TO RITTENBAND
AND SAID,

"ARE YOU REALLY GONNA
LET THAT LITTLE POLISH

BLAH-BLAH-BLAH OFF?"

AND RITTENBAND SAID,

"WELL, HE THINKS SO,
BUT NO WAY.

WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT
LITTLE BLANK-BLANK AWAY

FOR THE REST
OF HIS LIFE."

WHEN WE MET
IN HIS CHAMBERS,

AT THIS TIME
JUDGE RITTENBAND SAID

THAT HE WASN'T GOING
TO HONOR

THE PROMISE
THAT HE HAD MADE

ABOUT RELEASING
POLANSKI

UPON COMPLETION
OF THE DIAGNOSTIC STUDY.

HE GAVE
AS HIS REASON

THAT HE WAS GETTING
TOO MUCH CRITICISM.

THE JUDGE SAYS
THAT 42 DAYS

IS NOT ENOUGH TIME
IN CUSTODY,

THAT HE EXPECTED HIM
TO BE IN THERE 90 DAYS.

AND SO SOMEHOW
HE HAS TO MAKE UP

THESE 48 DAYS

OF THE INTENDED
SENTENCE OF 90.

NOW GUNSON
AT THIS POINT SAID,

"IF IT'S 48 MORE DAYS
YOU WANT,

WHY DON'T YOU
JUST GIVE HIM 48 DAYS

IN THE COUNTY JAIL?

AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE
ACCOMPLISHED

HIM SERVING THE FULL
90 DAYS IN JAIL."

AND RITTENBAND SAID,

NO, HE WAS NOT WILLING
TO DO THAT

BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION
OF A PRISON SENTENCE

MUST BE MAINTAINED
FOR THE PRESS.

Dalton:
HE TOLD ME

THAT IF I WOULD
COME BACK TO COURT

AFTER THE PRESS WAS GONE
AND THE PUBLIC WAS GONE,

THAT HE WOULD THEN
RECALL POLANSKI

AND HE WOULD BE
RELEASED FROM PRISON.

Gunson:
IT BECAME OBVIOUS TO ME

THAT HE WANTED HIM
DEPORTED

BECAUSE HE DID NOT
WANT HIM AROUND HERE

EMBARRASSING THE JUDGE

ANY MORE THAN
HE ALREADY HAD.

HE WANTED ROMAN
TO AGREE

THAT HE WOULD
VOLUNTARILY WAIVE

ANY RIGHTS HE MAY HAVE
REGARDING DEPORTATION.

RITTENBAND HAD
NO JURISDICTION

OVER SUCH MATTERS.
AND IT IS ILLEGAL

TO IMPOSE
AN ILLEGAL CONDITION

UPON SOMEBODY
SERVING TIME IN CUSTODY.

AND SO WE NOW ARE
IN A CATEGORY

OF ACTUAL
ILLEGAL CONDUCT.

THIS WAS GETTING
RATHER CONTENTIOUS,

AS YOU MIGHT
UNDERSTAND,

AND I SAID, "IF WE'RE
GOING TO DO THAT, JUDGE,

I WANT TO HAVE A HEARING
REGARDING THE SENTENCING

AS WE'RE ENTITLED TO DO.

AND I WANT TO HAVE
WITNESSES HERE

AND I WANT
TO HAVE A HEARING."

AND HE SAID,
"WELL, I'M GOING TO
SENTENCE HIM ANYWAY.

AND IF YOU STILL INSIST
ON HAVING YOUR HEARING

THEN I MAY WITHDRAW
THESE THINGS

THAT I TOLD YOU
THAT I WOULD DO

IF YOU WENT ALONG
WITH THIS THING

THAT I'M GOING
TO DO TOMORROW."

THE PROCEEDING
WAS CONCLUDED BY--

JUDGE RITTENBAND,
AS HE HAD DONE BEFORE,

DIRECTED ME TO ARGUE
FOR PROBATION.

HE WANTED GUNSON
TO, AGAIN, ARGUE
FOR TIME IN CUSTODY.

AND THEN HE WOULD
IMPOSE THE SENTENCE

THAT HE HAD DISCUSSED
WITH US.

I CERTAINLY
WAS NOT ARGUING

FOR STATE PRISON
IN CHAMBERS,

NOR DID I INTEND
TO ARGUE

THAT HE SHOULD SEND HIM
TO STATE PRISON

TO PARTICIPATE
IN THIS SHAM

THAT THE JUDGE
WAS INVOLVED IN.

WE GOT UP, WE WALKED
OUT OF THE ROOM.

I REMEMBER

SAYING IMMEDIATELY
TO GUNSON,

"I'M NOT GOING
TO DO THIS AGAIN.

NO MATTER
WHAT HE DOES,

I'M NOT GONNA PARTICIPATE
IN THIS THING."

AND GUNSON SAID, "I'M NOT
GOING TO DO IT EITHER."

AS WE WALKED
DOWN THE AISLE

PAST THE CHAIRS
OF AN EMPTY COURTROOM
AT THAT TIME,

DOUG DALTON
TURNED TO ME AND SAID,

"DO YOU THINK THAT I CAN
TRUST THE JUDGE?"

AND I SAID

SOMETHING THAT I WISH
I HADN'T SAID.

MAYBE IT DID OR DIDN'T
MAKE A DIFFERENCE,

BUT I SHOULDN'T
HAVE SAID IT.

AND WHAT I SAID
TO HIM WAS,

"I DON'T KNOW WHY NOT.
YOU TRUSTED HIM ONCE."

I DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO

THE FOLLOWING DAY.

I DID KNOW
THAT I WAS NO LONGER
GOING TO PARTICIPATE

IN A PROCEEDING
THAT WAS BEING
DESIGNED SOLELY

TO ADVANCE THE PURPOSES
OF JUDGE RITTENBAND.

I TOLD MR. DALTON

THAT I WOULD BE
AVAILABLE TO...

DISCLOSE THIS
INFORMATION

TO ANYONE AT ANY PLACE
AT ANY TIME.

Dalton:
I CONTACTED ROMAN

AND I SAID FOR THEM
TO COME TO MY OFFICE

AND DISCUSS WHAT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN

THE FOLLOWING MORNING.

I TOLD THEM
IT WAS MY OPINION

THAT THE SENTENCE
WOULD BE ILLEGAL,

THAT WE COULD PROBABLY
OBTAIN RELIEF ON APPEAL,

BUT THAT WOULD INVOLVE
A LONG PROCEDURE

AND POLANSKI WOULD BE
INCARCERATED

DURING THAT PERIOD
OF TIME.

I SAID THAT THE JUDGE
HAD SAID

THAT IF ROMAN AGREED
TO WAIVE

ANY DEPORTATION
HEARING

AND BE DEPORTED,

THAT HE WOULD THEN
BE RELEASED

IF HE ALSO HAD BY THEN
SERVED 48 DAYS.

ROMAN SAID TO ME,
"CAN WE TRUST HIM?"

AND I SAID,
"NO, WE CAN'T TRUST HIM.

WE HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT HE MAY DO.

WE'VE ALL AGREED

THAT HE CAN NO LONGER
BE TRUSTED

AND WHAT HE
REPRESENTS TO US
IS WORTHLESS."

WITH THAT, ROMAN GOT UP,
LOOKED AT ME

AND I BELIEVE HE SAID,
"I'LL SEE YOU GUYS LATER."

AND HE LEFT THE ROOM.

Sidewater:
THERE WERE TWO OR THREE
OTHER PEOPLE THERE.

AND I GAVE ROMAN
AN ENVELOPE,

WHICH I THOUGHT
WAS SCRIPT NOTES

OR SOMETHING ELSE.

THE GENERAL FEELING
I HAD IS,

"WHY IS EVERYBODY
SO NERVOUS? "

THERE WAS AN ELECTRICITY
IN THE AIR.

( Pierre-Andre Boutang
speaking French )

Dalton:
...HAVE TO DO WITH

WHAT WAS MY CONVERSATION
WITH MR. POLANSKI.

MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM
IS PROTECTED

BY THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT
PRIVILEGE.

I CAN'T DIVULGE
TO YOU

THE SUBSTANCE
OR THE CONTENT

OF MY CONVERSATION
WITH HIM.

ONLY TO SAY
WHAT I SAID IN COURT--

THAT HE DID CALL ME
THIS MORNING AT MY HOME

AND HE TOLD ME
HE WOULD NOT BE HERE.

I ASKED HIM
TO CALL ME AGAIN

BECAUSE I WANTED
TO DISCUSS THIS
WITH HIM FURTHER

AND ATTEMPT
TO PERSUADE HIM
TO RETURN.

HE SAID HE WOULD
CALL ME AGAIN.

DOUG, THE COURT ASKED YOU
WHETHER YOU THOUGHT

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE
TO TALK HIM INTO
COMING BACK.

WHAT WAS
YOUR RESPONSE?

I SAID
I THOUGHT I HAD

A REASONABLE CHANCE
OF BEING SUCCESSFUL.

Woman:
HOW WILL YOU TRY
TO DO IT?

CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK

- HE'S OUT OF THE COUNTRY?
- NO, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT.

MY BELIEF IS THAT
HE'S NOT IN THE COUNTRY.

WHAT HAPPENS IF HE
DOES NOT COME BACK,
MR. DALTON?

THEN THE COURT
GOES AHEAD AND--

Reporter:
ROMAN POLANSKI
IS IN SECLUSION,

HIS FRIENDS SAY,
INSIDE THIS FASHIONABLE
BUILDING

IN DOWNTOWN PARIS
WHERE HE KEEPS
AN APARTMENT.

Reporter #2:
HE SKIPPED THE COUNTRY
EARLY YESTERDAY

ONLY HOURS BEFORE HE WAS
TO BE SENTENCED FOR ILLEGALLY
HAVING SEX WITH--

Reporter #3:
HE HAD GIVEN HER
CHAMPAGNE AND A QUAALUDE.

Reporter #4:
HE HAS TOLD A FRIEND HERE

HIS REFRIGERATOR IS FULL,
AND HE DOES NOT INTEND
TO LEAVE.

Reporter #5:
MANY FEEL THE AURA
OF TRAGEDY

AND SENSATIONALISM
THAT SURROUNDS POLANSKI

OBSCURES HIS BRILLIANCE
AS A DIRECTOR.

Reporter #6:
THE JUDGE IN THE ROMAN
POLANSKI MORALS CASE

SAID TODAY HE INTENDED
TO SEND POLANSKI
BACK TO PRISON.

Reporter #7:
"A YEAR OF TORTURE
IS ENOUGH."

Reporter #8:
...HAS BEGUN PROCEEDINGS

TO FORCE POLANSKI
BACK TO THE UNITED STATES.

HOWEVER, AUTHORITIES
ARE NOT OPTIMISTIC
ABOUT SUCCEEDING.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M ADVISED
THAT THE TREATY WITH FRANCE

MIGHT NOT ALLOW FOR HIS
RETURN TO THIS COUNTRY,

AT OUR REQUEST,
TO BE SENTENCED
ON THIS CHARGE.

Fernell Chapman:
WHY IS THAT?

AS FAR AS I CAN TELL,

THE TREATY ONLY SPECIFIES,
NUMBER ONE, RAPE.

AS YOU KNOW, MR. POLANSKI
WAS NOT CONVICTED OF RAPE.

HE WAS
CONVICTED OF UNLAWFUL
SEXUAL INTERCOURSE,

AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT
CRIME THAN RAPE.

SECONDLY,
THE TREATY SPECIFIES

THAT IT'S DISCRETIONARY

ON THE PART OF FRANCE
TO RETURN FRENCH CITIZENS.

IN OTHER WORDS,
THEY HAVE AN OPTION.

THEY CAN OR THEY CAN'T,
DEPENDING ON HOW THEY FEEL

ABOUT A PARTICULAR CASE
OR MAYBE EVEN POSSIBLY
A PARTICULAR PERSON.

WHETHER THE D.A.
SUCCEEDS IN EXTRADITING
POLANSKI OR NOT,

JUDGE LAWRENCE RITTENBAND
PLANS

TO IMPOSE
POLANSKI'S SENTENCE
ON FEBRUARY 14th,

WITH OR WITHOUT
THE FILMMAKER'S PRESENCE.

THE LENGTH OF TIME
OF COURSE WOULD DEPEND

UPON WHETHER OR NOT

THERE WOULD BE
A DEPORTATION,

OR IF NOT DEPORTED
INVOLUNTARILY,

HE WOULD AGREE
WITH THE DIRECTOR
OF IMMIGRATION

TO CONSENT
IN WRITING

TO LEAVING
THE COUNTRY--

IN WHICH CASE,

ANY BALANCE OF HIS STAY
IN STATE PRISON

WOULD BE CUT SHORT.

BUT IT WAS
TO BE NO LESS

THAN THE FULL PERIOD
OF 90 DAYS.

Dalton:
THE JUDGE HELD
A PRESS CONFERENCE.

SHOCK WAVES WENT THROUGH
THE JUDICIAL COMMUNITY.

A JUDGE HOLDING
A PRESS CONFERENCE

REGARDING
A PENDING CASE--

TOTALLY UNHEARD OF.

HE SAID THAT
HE INTENDED NOW

TO SENTENCE POLANSKI
IN ABSENTIA.

SO I PREPARED
A CHALLENGE FOR CAUSE

TO DISQUALIFY A JUDGE.

IF YOU DO THIS,
YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PROVE

THAT THERE ARE ACTUAL
PREJUDICES

EXISTING BY THE JUDGE

AND THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE
A FAIR TRIAL

OR A FAIR HEARING
BEFORE HIM.

I SHOWED THE DECLARATION
TO ROGER GUNSON.

HE READ IT VERY CAREFULLY.
HE AGREED--

"THAT'S TRUE.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

I WILL BACK YOU UP
IF NEED BE."

THE JUDGE WAS FURIOUS.

HE KNEW THE STATEMENTS
IN THE DECLARATION
WERE ALL TRUE.

HE KNEW THAT I KNEW IT,
HE KNEW THAT GUNSON
KNEW IT

AND HE KNEW
THAT LARRY SILVER
KNEW PARTS OF IT.

AND SO THERE WAS
NOTHING HE COULD DO
BUT STEP ASIDE.

HE WAS THROUGH
AND HE KNEW IT.

Geimer:
I WAS YOUNG,
BUT THE WAY I FELT WAS,

THE JUDGE WAS ENJOYING
THE PUBLICITY

AND HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED TO ME

AND HE DIDN'T CARE
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
TO POLANSKI.

HE WAS, LIKE,
ORCHESTRATING SOME
LITTLE SHOW,

YOU KNOW, THAT I DIDN'T
WANT TO BE IN.

I CLEARLY HOLD NO BRIEF
FOR MR. POLANSKI.

AND OBVIOUSLY
WHAT HE DID TO SAMANTHA,
MY CLIENT,

WAS WRONG
AND OUTRAGEOUS,

BUT NEVERTHELESS,
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
TREATED FAIRLY IN COURT

AND HE CLEARLY
WAS NOT.

I'M NOT SURPRISED
THAT HE LEFT

UNDER THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES.

Marina Zenovich:
REALLY?

YEAH.

( sizzling )

JESUS. WOW.

( both laugh )

CLIVE, I THINK IT WAS
A WONDERFUL IDEA

TO DO THIS INTERVIEW

OVER THIS LUNCH,

BUT THE LUNCH IS GETTING
INTO A DINNER NOW.

AND IN CASE
IF YOU HAVE IN MIND

FINISHING THIS INTERVIEW,
I WANTED TO ASK YOU

WHETHER YOU INTEND
TO END ON THIS NOTE,

OR DO YOU THINK THERE'S
SOMETHING MORE TO MY LIFE

THAN MY RELATIONS
WITH YOUNG WOMEN?

Braunsberg:
HE REBUILT HIS LIFE
IN FRANCE

WITH GREAT HONOR.

HE'S A MEMBER OF
THE ACADEMIE FRANCAISE.

AND IN FRANCE
HE'S DESIRED,

AND IN AMERICA
HE'S WANTED.

( French reporter
speaking )

( Arnaud d'Hauterives
speaking )

PERMETTEZ-MOI
DE VOUS ADRESSER

UN TRES CHALEUREUX
MERCI.

( applause )

AND THE OSCAR...

GOES TO ROMAN POLANSKI
FOR "THE PIANIST."

( whistles )

THE ACADEMY CONGRATULATES
ROMAN POLANSKI

AND ACCEPTS THIS AWARD
ON HIS BEHALF.

( rock music playing )