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- When I look in a mirror
I see the stuff that I can...

I look at, like, all the things
that are wrong with the way

I look, like, if I have
excess skin or, um,

my acne or other things
like that,

and I just kind of
get mad at myself.

- Especially as a teenager,
you're, like,

trying to find yourself

and develop self-identity and
confidence and to walk around

and feel like
you're alone and, like...

what you are and how you look
is like, disgusting,

or like, shameful.

It's hard.

- I've heard people say, like,
"Oh, she used to be so pretty,

like, what happened to her?
Look at her now."

- It's like black and white,
they label you fat or skinny,

and skinny's, like,
the compliment, so...not good.

It's everywhere,
the pressure.

♪

[school bell ringing]

- So, guys, I'd love to
give you each a magazine

and ask you to choose
an image from the magazine

that you think represents
what society tells you

is beautiful today.

What do you think that
we're being told is beautiful?

♪

All right, can you hold up
the image in front of you

that you guys
have all chosen?

I wonder if there's
anything in those magazines

that actually you think
is beautiful,

that looks like you
or that you say,

"Oh, I see myself
in that image."

Hold it up if you did.

If not...

- The fashion industry
sets the beauty standards.

It has a very broad reach,
it has a very deep reach.

It permeates so much
of our daily lives,

it's actually hard
to escape.

- How important
is the fashion industry

to you and your friends?

- Extremely important.

- Everyone, at some point,
has wanted to look like models

in a magazine because
the way the magazines portray

the models,
they're beautiful.

- Models in different campaigns
for the clothing stores,

they had one very
concrete image of beauty,

and that was what I was kind of
trained to think about

when I thought about myself.

- I'm seeing, like,
these magazines and it's just...

I don't look like them.

- The fashion industry and
the media absolutely reinforces

the idealization of thinness and
the concept of a "perfect" body.

- A typical fashion image
is that triple-zero

who's seven feet tall.

It's an unattainable image.

- It's not like I'm looking
at these pictures and saying,

these were
what people look like,

'cause we don't really
all look like that,

it's like,
a very low percentage.

- People who look like me

are not really walking down
a runway, which really sucks,

so, you know...

- I'm, I guess, bigger than what
you would call average,

and just seeing
all these ads everywhere,

I just go through
daily life thinking,

why don't I, I guess,
look like that?

And it's very, you know,
it really does affect me

and I just wish there was some
kind of difference, you know?

- I feel like it makes
people second guess themselves

when they're about to post
something or when they're just

looking in the mirror or when
they're trying on clothes

in a store, it's like, am I
supposed to look like the model

wearing the same shirt
that I'm trying on right now?

And it's like, you don't,
so it's like,

does that mean I'm fat,
does that mean I'm ugly?

Because she's
obviously beautiful.

- Not seeing somebody in
a magazine that looks like you

makes you strive to
look like them even more,

even if that involves
hurting yourself.

- And just seeing, like,
this small group of people

who are extremely skinny,

and being told that that's
what you need to look like...

crushes, like,
our self-esteems.

- I believe that this
imagery is at the root of

one of the greatest
public health crises

in the United States, certainly,
but around the world generally.

- The brain processes
images 60,000 times faster

than it does words,

and so if you want to change
somebody's perception,

creating an image about it
is the fastest,

most immediate way to do it.

- I'd almost rather ask
the question, what,

what can the fashion industry do
to make this better?

- Right now there's not,
um, a lot of diversity,

and I think that that's
the most important thing.

- What is wrong with having,
you know,

a little more
in your midsection,

and what is wrong with,
you know, maybe having

thicker thighs?

- It's affecting girls,
like, everywhere.

- Everyone's looking up
to these fashion models

and if they see, like, how they
have different bodies

and they cam feel comfortable
with themselves, then I can too.

- We need a more diverse
range of role models.

♪

[camera clicking]

- Hi.

[camera clicking]

- Good morning!

Hi, everyone.

♪

[camera clicking]

- Hi.
[chuckles]

♪

[camera clicking]

- Good morning.

♪

- What we want to do
is create the imagery

we should be seeing more of,

so that crosses the line
of size, ethnicity and age.

And we'll curate those images
into an exhibit.

♪

- Welcome.
- Hello.

Nice to meet you.
[camera clicking]

♪

- Hey.

[camera clicking]

- Come on, let's go in.

♪

[camera clicking]

- My decision
as an image maker...

to not perpetuate the things
that had inherently damaged me

as a young girl, dealing with
being plus-size, so, um...

I have this desire to create
this world where diversity

is just something
that is natural

and not something
that we talk about.

♪

[camera clicking]

- We have Iskra, she's that
kind of mid-range size.

- Morning, guys.
[camera clicking]

- We have Philomena,

who is on the larger end
of the section size 14/16,

so these are more on
our larger size,

these girls
sit more in the middle,

and these girls
are definitely

from our zero
to four size range.

♪

- You are not accustomed
to seeing this range of women

of varying ethnicities,
body types, sizes, age,

portrayed through this lens.

But for me, I am fascinated
by this cast of characters

and what they represent in
the industry, in the world.

[applause]

This is a broad range of
diverse and complex women

fully ready to change
the conversation

for other young girls.

- As a model,
I'm really responsible

for the way in which younger
people see themselves.

- Helping these young girls
to realize that

that perfected image,
they don't have to attain to it,

they are good enough as them.

- It kind of made me
stay in the industry

and say,
this is important

that we reflect our bodies
and imagery.

- For so long we've been
told it doesn't work.

It doesn't work to be African,
it doesn't work to be dark,

it doesn't work to have
natural hair,

and be plus-size on top of that,
it's like,

every "no" combined
into one person here.

- I'm a mother as well,
so for me it was so important

once my daughter was
born to do something

that would change her and her
friends and how they were going

to grow up and see
the world, like,

she deserves to have women
of all shapes, colors and sizes

and ages in these pages,

and I don't want her
growing up thinking

that she doesn't
deserve that.

♪

[background conversations]

- Welcome.
- Hi!

How are you?
- Good.

- We haven't seen an exhibit
with this much diversity

from a fashion perspective,

so I think this will be
the first time

we're seeing
this type of range,

not just in body,
but in ethnicity.

- I'm so happy to meet you.

- I love what you're wearing.
- Oh, thanks.

♪

- For me, like, the point of
this shoot is to create imagery

that where maybe
we're used to seeing

but with a range of bodies.

So for me it's like
fashion re-imagined.

- I worry about
my little sister.

She's 15,
she's in this place

where she just doesn't
eat anything and she's like,

"Okay, I'm not eating,"
because she wants to be skinny.

- Mm-hmm.
- She's sitting on Instagram,

following all these girls
who are doing all these things

and trying to look like pictures
that are not real.

And I'm like, "Okay,
I model, I'm telling you,

that's not real."

I really think that we need
to be a little bit more honest

about the conversation.

Because if I stand there
and I say to her, like,

all these young girls,
"I love myself completely.

I never have any
self-image issues, I--"

that's not true, and it
doesn't help anybody

because all their
role models are lying about

what it means to truly,
truly be body positive.

- Right.

- The percentage was 1.4%
of models were over a 12

in campaigns last season.

1.4%.
It doesn't represent women.

And it is--those high-end, you
know, seeing someone like Phil,

seeing someone like Sabina,
you know, on the runway.

When I saw Sabina
on the runway,

I'm not even
looking at her size.

I'm just thinking, God damn,
that's a hot, sexy woman,

like, she's owning it,
she's on the runway,

and it just made me so happy.

That's what--
that's the disconnect

I don't understand yet,
that they haven't realized

that there are women that are
stunning and beautiful

and they want to, you know,
feel wonderful at their size,

it doesn't matter,
they just want to wear fashion

and enjoy it like
everybody else.

♪

When I was 13, I entered
a search for supermodels,

and I got down to the finals,

and it was an amazing
experience, like,

I got a taste of shooting,
um, you know,

I signed with a huge agency,
I was super excited,

I was going down and seeing
myself in these rooms with

these other models who I looked
up to and just kind of looked at

my body shape and looked at
their body shape

and would think,
oh, my goodness...

[chuckling]

And all they would do is measure
my hips, measure my hips.

I did shoots,
I did runways.

There was one runway
I remember in particular,

and there was, like,
20 or 30 girls.

You're literally, like, naked,
you're completely vulnerable,

you're 15 years old and you're
getting into clothes.

And like, one after one, like,
they were getting up to here

and I was like, oh, crap,
I can't get these on.

And I was trying to hide it from
the people in the fashion show

and the stylist saw
and he was like,

"Why can't you fit
into the clothes?

"Why are you so fat?

What are we going to do
with this fat model?"

And it was in front of all...
everyone else,

and it's completely
humiliating,

you just want to be
sucked into a hole.

You know,
I tried all the diets,

I tried all those extreme
things and I realized

I couldn't change
my body, like,

it would never be perfect
because perfect doesn't exist.

I just decided, right,
I've got to do my own thing

and I've got to make this work
at this size,

'cause I feel healthy,
I've gotten to the place

where I feel happy
with my body,

so surely that's
where I'm most beautiful.

♪

- Um, let me get the 7200.

Nothing on you is precious,
like, all about you.

Yes, gorgeous.

♪

Oh, my God,
it's so pretty.

I think we got this look.

- Yeah, I think so.

- I feel like you just
don't make as much of an impact

if you're black,

which is really sad.
- It is really sad.

- I tweeted that yesterday.
- It sucks that you feel that--

I'm not saying that
you solely feel that way,

it sucks that, you know...
that's your truth.

- I've run into other girls
who have just been like,

"I could've had a cover
but I was cut out

because I look this color
or I could've done this."

It's like, we're in the picture,
but it's like one, two, three.

I'm from Ghana, born and raised
in London, but from Ghana.

I didn't actually realize I was
black until I came to America.

Like, "Oh, my God,
I'm not African-American."

No, actually, I'm not
African-American,

I'm from the UK.

And they're like, "Oh, so what
do you call yourself?"

And I just, I don't...

Then it becomes hard because
what do I call myself?

Yes, I'm black, yes,
I'm plus-size,

I'm also Ghanaian,
I'm also British,

I'm also a myriad of other
things, but that is not me.

At the end of the day
I'm still Philomena,

I'm still my own person,

and you want to describe me
a certain way, and that's okay,

and you want to describe me
a certain way,

and that's also okay,
it's our language,

it's the human language,

it's how we make sense of
the world around us.

- Give me a little higher
on this end.

- It is lonely
being a black plus-size model

because there aren't
that many of us.

I feel like there
should be more,

there really,
really should be more.

- Gorgeous...
really strong.

Nailed it!

- It's not a normal story,

but for me modeling helps me
with my confidence.

Because it's forced me
to get to know myself.

With modeling you don't--
there's no filter.

You are photographed
from whatever angle,

everywhere, so it's almost like,
"I don't like my thighs,"

you're going to look at
your thighs every single day,

it's going to be everywhere
every single day,

you better get used to it
and say, "Hi, thighs, welcome,

nice to meet you,
I'm your friend now."

And then become very
indifferent towards it.

- Gorgeous.

Perfect movement,
literal perfection.

- I'm not a plus-size woman,
I'm a plus-size model.

The problem is not the label,
it's the mentality.

When I say plus-size to my
friends in the straight industry

they're like, they almost come,
like, for a funeral,

like, "Oh, my God,
what happened to you?

But you still look good,"
and I'm like, "Yeah!"

My idea is to bring
awareness to body image

and to everybody feel
comfortable in their own skin,

no matter what.

There is nothing wrong
with being skinny.

There's absolutely nothing
wrong, it actually is beautiful

if you are like that, but if
you're not like that also,

so that's the whole point.

- What do you think,
as a straight-size woman, Erica?

- I've been through
my own stuff.

And there's some stuff I don't
like about myself too, equally,

you know, and so, finding
that day that I loved myself

and accepted who I was,
and that was a beautiful day.

[background conversations]

- Hi!
- Hi!

- So I just wanted to go over
with you the group shot

and what's going on here.

So I definitely want moments
where you are interacting

with each other,
but also feel empowered

to be having
your own moments.

It should very much be about
your personality,

that should really
shine through here.

Erica, you're interacting
with Philomena.

Nathalia, your body's
interacting with them,

but you're only ever interacting
with me or the--over there.

♪

Love this.

- When I was a size four
I struggled a lot, and...

in my best modeling career would
be like, a size two and zero.

It's so funny
to remember this shot,

of doing all the effort
in the world

to look skinny
in the pictures.

I remember looking at this
picture and thinking I was huge,

huge, I was so ashamed.

At the top of my career I got
in my bottom of self-esteem.

And the clothes I got to
this stereotype of beauty

and happiness and, like,
success, it went further.

I was like, is this all a lie
that I believe since I'm,

I don't know, 12 years old,

that to be happy
I need to be skinny?

Oh, my God, I look at this
picture of me when I was 15.

Oh, my God, that body, like,
just the perfect, healthy body,

it was like this
beautiful girl,

naturally that way,
and I hated it.

I remember, like, looking at
my legs and being like,

why are they not straight,
like the models?

And it's so funny to remember
myself at 20, 23 years old,

being on the cover
of magazines, like,

it felt like a dream,
like suddenly I'm like,

I'm doing all of that.

Suddenly I am that girl
in the magazine.

And I'm not happy.

You think like my worth
is in not eating,

and we can't allow girls
to live like that anymore.

- At what age were you
when you first went on a diet?

- Hmm...probably like 13.

- I think I might have started
trying 12--I'm 16 now.

- I feel like I hated myself
so much that I don't have--

like, I feel like a lot of
my body is my least favorite.

- I did go through, like,
a rough period where I was

weighing myself literally
every time I ate a meal.

Oh, let me take my shoes off,
let me, like, do this,

let me try to see the numbers
drop down, and then

my scale actually ran out of
batteries and my dad

refused to put them back in.

- The idea that
thinness equals health

is a very dangerous notion.

The idea that thinness equals
happiness, equals success,

will lead to a sense of
fulfillment, will make you feel

better about yourself--
all of these concepts

are incredibly flawed
and incredibly toxic.

- I got a message from someone
from the industry

saying that
I promote obesity.

So, uh, I guess
I'm really angry right now.

So this person, seems like
this person is concerned

about my health and...

and this is a person that
actually influenced me a lot

when I was really skinny

in the fashion industry
in my country.

I say that people should be--
take--should be concerned about

my health when I was really
skinny and completely obsessed

and living a life that was
first of all not fulfilling

and second of all, unhealthy,
and would eventually kill me.

And people didn't
seem very concerned,

people from the industry.

I didn't see one person
concerned about me.

- This message that fat is bad,
if that could be eliminated

from any messaging in our
society, from all the media,

we'd be way ahead, and that
would not be undermining

to public health.

- If there is an ideal person,
um, or an ideal body part,

it would be somebody
that would weigh more

than what's being promoted
in the media.

So why don't we get
"ideal" off the picture?

Why don't we say,
what's to your benefit?

The question is,
how do you feel?

How are you performing?

What does your blood work
look like, you know?

Do you have plaque
around your heart?

- There's nothing about
seeing images of women

that are more realistic or what
women really look like,

that is causing
any epidemic.

It is not causing
any health problem.

If anything, what it's
showing is that women of,

of a range of sizes
can be valued,

valued enough to be portrayed
in our mass media.

- Let's try again.

I think it looks great.

- It feels cool.
- I know,

it's made from feathers.
Isn't that cool?

- All right,
let's take some photos.

- Nicki, does it scare you
hearing young girls

talk like this, when you have
two 20-year-old daughters?

- Yeah, I purposely didn't
have scales in the house.

I thought raising girls,
I've got to be very careful.

And no one discussed weight.

- I mean, my mother put me
on a diet since I can remember.

- Really?
- Yeah.

She was always so afraid that
I would turn out like her, like,

and she's not even like,
overweight.

Also, there are doctors out
there that I remember when

I was nine and I--I was
a perfectly healthy girl, I was,

I always loved salad
and everything,

and my parents
are both really into health,

but then I'd go to the doctor
and I was like,

two points BMI
more than I should be,

which is like,
it's too super-normal,

I was a curvy girl,
always had, like,

a big butt and things
like that.

But then he's like, "Oh, I think
you should go on a diet

for a nine-year-old girl,"
and that's a doctor,

and that's when my mom starts
to validate all, you know,

her thoughts, and she's like,
"I don't want her to be obese

or anything like that."

- Health is not defined
by a number on a scale.

It's certainly not defined
by Body Mass Index.

- If there's anything that
I could take back

from what my field
of public health has done,

what medicine and nursing
has done,

is the use of BMI so
ubiquitously throughout society.

It really is a bludgeon.

- Health is very, very,
very individual.

I have a Master's degree in
International Health Management,

it's got policy,
economics and...

all sorts of health metrics.

BMI is about population size
and spread.

It's a statistical measure
that you can't really use

on an individual basis.

- Body Mass Index is only
a relative measurement

of how tall you are versus
how much you weigh.

That does not actually describe
how your body composition

is comprised of muscle, or fat,
and it is not diagnostic

for the amount of body fatness
or the health status

of an individual.

- There is a real danger in
the over-emphasis on weight

and the number on the scale.

And I hear about that
every day from parents

who cite very well-intentioned
obesity prevention programs

as the start of their
child's eating disorder.

The experience of being
weighed at school,

the BMI report card
getting sent home,

the chatter that happens among
the kids about, you know,

comparing weight and numbers,

and how it leads to bullying and
how it leads to an obsessive,

unhealthy focus on weight.

Kids are particularly
vulnerable to these messages,

and we have to change
our way of talking about health

and shift the focus away
from the number on the scale.

- I won't ever forget Joselyn.

She came home recently, and was
talking about her thighs

and I thought it was really
interesting because

it's obviously a conversation
that's being had at school.

- Come and join us.

[laughing]

- Well, Joselyn, do you hear
anything from girls

at your school?

What have you heard people
say about your thighs?

- Well, one of my friends
said I'm fat.

- She said you are fat?

- You are not fat,
young lady.

- And another girl.

- She said it to
another girl too?

Well, that's not cool.
What did you say?

- "That's not very nice."

- No.

- Why do you think
she said that?

- Not cool.

- I'm like--ahh!
- Come on.

You know, I try my hardest
with Joselyn.

She's like my biggest
inspiration.

I have the ability to show her
something different,

and by helping her it'll help
so many other people.

- Perfect!

Yes!

- When you're walking around
and you're at castings

where everyone's
so much thinner than you,

it does sometimes
cross your mind, like,

"Shit, should I maybe be dieting
again?" or something like that.

But I don't want to.

You know, when I was in Paris
I was told to lose

an inch and a half
or something in a week--

- What?
- Yeah, and I was like,

how is that even possible?

Some of the girls
are so fit and I know

that I was once that thin.

- How did you feel when
you were that thin?

- Awful.

My skin was horrific,
my mood was horrific,

I was tired all the time,
it wasn't fun.

It's not like an existence,
do you know what I mean?

No job is worth doing that,

you know, and I always think
back to how miserable I was

and I--I'm not going to go
back there again, you know?

- Yeah.

- Whenever I walk past scales,

like, for some reason there's
something, a part of me,

or inside of me
that's drawn to them.

I just want to get on scales
and weigh myself and stuff,

and I found myself doing that
when I went back to England,

my grandparents have got them
in their bathroom,

and I was like, "I have to
do it, I have to do it,"

and I was like, "No, I can't,
I cannot do this."

So, yeah, I just
stopped doing that now,

it's just so much better
for my own sanity.

- Once more, Jenesee.

- By looking at
a person's body,

it is very difficult to judge
somebody's health

just from the outside,

not knowing
what's going on internally.

Pounds on a scale do not matter
as much as body composition,

because ultimately it is
our insides

and what is metabolically
active versus not

that ultimately determine
how healthy we are.

- So, I'm off to King's
College Hospital today

to get my body fat scanned
under an MRI scanner.

I'm a bit nervous because
whenever it comes to things

like bodies and fat
and things like that,

it's always a bit of a weird
subject for me, um,

but hopefully the scan
will just show that

I am healthy and good,
that's what I'm aiming for.

I know I've put on weight,
and that's fine,

I just want to
accept the fact

that I'm doing that rather
than worrying about it.

- Fat has use in the body,

primarily, starting off
as an energy storage

and for helping to regulate
the metabolism.

Having a normal amount of
fat around the hips, thighs

and buttocks is very stable
and helps to absorb

some of the harmful
byproducts of digestion,

and will help to provide
additional energy

when you are battling an
infection or some other disease.

So, having some fat is good.

[man on phone]
- Hello, Brandon speaking.

- Hi, Brandon, it's Charli.

- Hey, Charli, how are you?

- Well, I'm ringing you to find
out my results of my MRI scan.

So can you just quickly tell me
what's the difference between,

um, visceral fat and
subcutaneous fat?

- Yes, so
the subcutaneous fat...

- Subcutaneous fat is the fat
just beneath our skin

and throughout
our entire body.

Visceral fat is within our
abdominal cavity

and helps to cushion
the vital organs.

When we're looking at a person,
externally, we can see

the shape of the subcutaneous
fat and rolls and pouches.

We cannot see the visceral fat
because that is within

the muscle walls,
the ribcage, the pelvis.

Subcutaneous fat is more healthy
than visceral fat.

- In terms of health,
visceral fat dominates

how healthy you are and
you will be in the future,

so you can see you have
relatively very little,

so you're in very good shape
in terms of the visceral fat.

- Okay, well, that's really good
to know, I'm really happy.

I was worried that I was like,
I might be unhealthy underneath.

That makes me really happy.

[Brandon chuckling on phone]

Thank you very much.
- All right.

- I'm really happy...yay.

- The real problem comes in
with the stigma, with the,

with the shame that people are
made to feel and the animosity

that people in our society feel
toward people at the higher end.

- This culture definitely
defines largeness

as failure, period.

- If I gained weight, I would
feel uncomfortable because

as girls are watched really
closely, and I feel like

our weight is something that is
watched closely, and it's...

I don't know.

I think gaining weight would
just make things harder

on myself and harder
to be around other people

who are judging me
and looking at me.

- And so if I do gain weight,
like, I'm getting further

and further away from
this idea of perfection,

so I do get mad
at myself sometimes.

- There's so much pressure to
lose weight and gaining weight,

it's just like...
I don't know,

I feel like it's in some ways
like social suicide.

- The unfortunate thing is when
we see people who are large,

we do label them,
it's really unfortunate,

and I think in the same way that
we've had to pay attention

to our quiet racism and people
who think that they're not

racist to really
look at how you really are

thinking about people.

I think we have to do
the same thing about size.

- I am the first
visibly fat model.

There's probably better ways
to put that, but it's true.

I know the reason
that I became a model

was because I didn't see anyone
else that looked like me.

I didn't see anyone
in media that,

that looked glamorous
that was fat, like,

that's why I have Miss Piggy
tattooed on me because,

like, she was glamorous,
sassy, and funny.

To me, like, that's what
I identified with.

My physical body in no way keeps
me from doing my job at all.

I am the primary
breadwinner in my family.

My mom is partially paralyzed
and I have a four-month-old,

and my job is so demanding, and
it doesn't end when I get home.

The fact that people are
so offended by the notion

that plus-size and fat women
deserve a place in the world

and that we deserve happiness
is a huge reason why things

haven't changed, and it's
a huge reason why

the fashion industry
isn't quite catching up.

We're told that we're not
allowed to feel sexy

and that we aren't going
to find people that love us

and that we can't wear
certain things

unless we look
a certain way.

When you have, you know,
98% of the world telling you

that you don't deserve those
things because of how you look,

then some of that
starts to stick.

- We need to stop blaming
people and instead

change the structures around--
the food environment,

the physical activity
environment--

and absolutely eliminate
the discrimination and stigma

and treat people
with respect and dignity.

- I've been plus size
all of my life, you know,

and it's such a conflicting,

unhealthy relationship
you develop with food.

You know, because, for me,
when I was, like,

in middle school
and high school,

if I was eating
something healthy,

I thought everyone was, like,
watching me, you know,

and I felt like they were like,
"Oh, she's eating healthy

because she wants to
lose weight."

- Yeah.
- And then if I ate unhealthy,

I felt like, oh-- I felt like
people were thinking,

"Oh, that's why she's fat,"
you know what I mean?

And it was always, you know,
I could never find that balance,

and then I just became scared
to eat in front of people.

And this is when I was 14.

I would go hide in the bathroom
at lunch sometimes and eat

because I didn't want
anyone to see me eat.

Or I would make it a point
to never finish everything

that was on my plate because
I was scared that everyone

was looking at me
and judging me.

- A lot of people
will say to me,

"Well, it's just easy
to lose weight,"

and you think like, that's not--
like, I get that I am fat,

I get that, um, you know,
I, to some people,

I could lose weight
and I could be smaller.

People don't identify that,
you know, um,

disordered eating
in the sense of overeating

is an eating disorder.

When I was 10, the man
that my mom was engaged to

shot her twice in the head
and tried to kill her,

and she is now partially
paralyzed from it.

The fact that I used
emotional eating, I think of it

as the way that I survived,

and we all use different
coping mechanisms to survive

and to get through things
in our life.

And it's really frustrating
because I feel like

if there was more awareness
of disordered eating,

people actually talking
about what that means,

then people could
understand what they need to do

and maybe why they're doing it
and, and get help with it.

- As far as we've come in this
field, I still hear from people

who think that eating
disorders are about vanity

or that the whole idea that,
"Well, why don't you just eat?

"Or why don't you just
control what you eat?

You know, you should
have more willpower."

- I was scared that my whole
life would collapse

because I was
gaining weight.

I felt...I was hiding
my craziness around food

from the entire world and at
the same time selling an image

that was healthy.

- When did we stop looking at
how healthy and happy we were

and when did we start looking
at skinny at all costs?

Like, I can be skinny and that
also can mean that I'm healthy.

It doesn't matter about
how I got there

or what I did to get there,
I just want to get there.

- Eating disorders are a serious
public health issue.

They have the highest
mortality rate

of any psychiatric diagnosis.

This is not a silly,
passing fad.

It is not a vanity issue, it is
a serious public health issue.

- I almost lost my life once,
like, really, really close.

- What happened?

- I don't remember anything,
I just remember waking up

in a hospital
and my boyfriend's with me.

The doctor told me, like, most
of the people would have died

with this low potassium,
my potassium was so low that,

like, my heart was stopped,

and I stayed there for a week
and went back.

But like, to have a doctor
tell me, like,

"You're really lucky
you're alive,"

I'm like, okay.

And I remember just leaving
the hospital, saying to me,

"You can eat chocolate,
you can eat chocolate--

just a little bit,"
like saying to me, like,

they kind of knew
what was going on.

I wasn't even asking that
in the picture at that time, and

I remember thinking,
like, "She's fat.

I'm not even going
to listen to her."

- The eating disorders,
this is something serious.

This is not just something
that people talk about,

"Oh, I'm on a diet."

People are losing their lives
from this.

To help a young man
or woman see

that beauty lies within
themselves.

To help change legislation
covering eating disorders

and mental illnesses.

To encourage publications
and media to feature

real men and women
of all sizes,

or to simply give someone
fighting an eating disorder

the encouragement
and hope to survive.

♪

- I'm certainly excited, I've
been waiting for this all day.

Let's do this.

Perfect, guys, perfect.

Beautiful.

- Every single model, they have
never been part of a shoot

that wasn't retouched.

I mean,
how crazy is that?

The shoots I do--especially
lingerie, I don't know,

I just feel like it's so much
about looking at that body.

Let's make that body relatable,
let's make that body real.

I have a platform now.

I wanted that platform
so I could tell girls

that they aren't on their own

and that we're all
in this together.

This image that we're
looking at isn't real.

I know this because I've been
modeling for 13 years.

I have pictures where
I've done a magazine shoot,

my parents have gone
to find me in the store

to buy the magazine,
they couldn't find me.

I was Photoshopped so heavily

that they didn't even recognize
their own daughter.

And I look at the images and I--
that doesn't make me feel good,

it doesn't make me feel
beautiful.

For someone to decide that my
arms should be half the size

or that I should have a thigh
gap when I naturally don't

because that makes me better
in some way,

I don't believe in that.

I don't believe that that's
the images that we should be

taking in every day because
I can't even be that image.

And it's me!

Because if we don't say
what we want to see,

if we don't talk about
the changes we want to happen,

they are not gonna happen.

That's the power
that you guys have

because the magazines
have to listen.

If you say, "Do you know what,
I don't like this

"because it doesn't represent me
and I don't like reading it

"because I don't
see myself in it

and it doesn't
make me feel good,"

if you don't buy it,
then the magazine has to change,

it has to adapt.

And you know,
maybe your kids, my kids,

aren't going to have the same
body image issues because

they're going to
see themselves

or they're going to feel
less pressure to be perfect.

- I've always understood
advertising's ability

to shape and influence
attitudes and behaviors.

I'm like so many
in the industry today,

which is we didn't pay
that much attention, right?

Didn't look at the cumulative
effect of the images

and the imagery that
we were putting out there.

When my daughter was born
I began to see the world

for the first time through
the eyes of this little girl,

and I was forced to confront
both my own privilege

and my own ignorance of how
difficult we, in particular men,

in particular popular culture,
have made it to grow up

a happy girl and become
a sustainably happy woman.

Advertisements she sees
on the way to school

and the advertisements that pop
up when she's playing Minecraft,

they all begin to play a part in
how she is going to see herself

and then what will create
what she defines as ideals

and ideas and expectations,
and I wanted to, um,

play a part in changing them

because I think
it's completely fucked up.

Our bill focuses--make a blue
sky bluer all day long,

put a smile on a dog,
have at it.

Remove a wrinkle in a dress?
Totally cool.

Change the--materially change
the shape, size, proportion,

color, and/or enhance or remove
individual characteristics

of the human in the ad,

that's what
we're concerned about

because that's what causes, um,
this public health crisis.

Photoshop is not the enemy--
that's not the problem.

The problem is when
we confuse the fantasy

and the reality,

when we think
the illusion is real.

That's the problem.

So Photoshop all you want,
and just tell us you did it.

- If more brands could take
that on, if more brands

could stop doing that
traditional advertising,

we all now know
that you can also advertise

in a more positive way,

and instead if you empower women
and you make them feel good,

they're going to also want
to buy into a product.

- I love modeling for Aerie
because they don't retouch me.

It makes me feel good
to work with them.

I'm not going to work
with brands that aren't trying

to make a difference
or do something good.

- When I launched
Aerie Real I knew

that we had to listen
to the consumer,

and all we kept hearing online,
through social media,

through the customers--
even in the dressings rooms--

is them talking about their body
and their body issues,

and so I just knew that we had
to stop retouching our images,

we had to start showing
girls of different sizes.

- We decided that intimate
apparel is different,

and it's such a personal product
and it means so much to women,

and what could we do that
could actually influence

young girls today,

and how could we stand for
something and create a platform

that means something
from the heart?

- There was a small team of us,
there was, again,

a director of copy,
a graphic designer and myself

and then we got our
photographer, casting agent

involved, and, um, did this
whole thing in secret,

pretty much,
alongside the rest of our jobs,

and then came back and pitched
it to the leadership team.

It was scary for people.

It was definitely a mind-set
change, you know,

about things like leaving
the rolls and, you know,

things that, like, when a girl
moves from side to side

these lines, these lines happen,
like, you know,

in the past these
would have been the things

that we would have
taken out.

- Those moments are
really controversial

because we're not
used to seeing it.

I've been a model for 12 years,
I know how to pose

so my stomach looks flat,

and I just happened to be
twisting and I had some rolls.

And the amount of comments I
received from that one picture,

"Ugh, she has a disease.
Ugh, her stomach is disgusting.

"Has she had a C-section?

Oh, I didn't know
they make bras for cows,"

like, all these terrible,
terrible comments.

But I was excited in my head
because I thought, wow,

that means no one's seen
a real stomach like that

in a lingerie campaign,
and I was like, thank God

that I can share those images
and I'm proud of my body

and show that it's real
and show that when you bend

you have rolls and
all those natural things.

- When I first went in to pitch
the idea, I did not know

and did not expect what
an amazing sales growth

the brand has seen.

- You know, lo and behold,
the business is on fire.

I can't wait to see
what happens next.

- Okay, this is our
June swimsuit feature.

We do a big swimsuit
feature every June,

and we always make sure
to shoot it on a woman

who has gorgeous curves
because that's true

for most of our readers--it's
true for most women in general--

and to celebrate a gorgeous,
healthy, curvy body.

These are using Jennie Runk,

who I think she's one of
the most gorgeous women

in the world, and the pictures,
they're very, very joyful,

which I think is important.

- Actually in this month's
issue of "Redbook,"

it's really exciting, it's my
first swim spread in a magazine.

My fiancée's really
excited about it.

She bought five copies of it
and she's like...[laughing]

- Is it difficult being gay
in the fashion industry?

- Not at all.

People, people love it,
you know,

if anything people love it,
love me even more.

They're like,
"Oh, you're marrying a woman,

we're best friends now."

I think I was like,
17 when I came out.

It was such a weird experience,
like, being in Missouri

and going through that
because there--

I didn't know
any gay people.

I didn't even know
that it was a thing.

Like, I didn't even know
it was a possibility.

I had no, like, literally zero
exposure, zero exposure to,

like, anything LGBT.

I'm such a nerd--every time
I'm unsure about something

I just do a bunch of research,
so I got on Google

and I started Googling, like,

"How to come out of the closet,"
like, "What is a lesbian?

How do I be a lesbian?"

- What was the answer to that?
[laughing]

- Googling, like, "I like
kissing a girl, what now?"

Like, I don't know, you know,
it was just such a weird, like,

and I didn't know
any gay people,

I didn't know who to ask.

I think the first person
I came out with was

the only out gay guy
at my school, and I was like...

I was like, "I think I might
be gay, what do I do?"

And he was like,
"Get a girlfriend."

[laughing]

It was like, so weird.

- I would love to
take your picture.

- You wanna get started?

- I do.
- Okay.

[background conversations]

I've been doing this
for 12 years,

and especially in
plus-size modeling, like,

we all have completely
different body types.

The responsibility is on
everyone in the fashion

and media industry
to help change the way

that we think of beauty so that
girls all over the world

can see role models who look
a little bit more like them

and can therefore feel
better about themselves

and will therefore have
the strength to go on

and realize their
full potential.

- The plus-size thing for me
is such a new, like, idea,

because obviously with straight
modeling you don't meet girls

who are,
you know, like that.

- That's where
the surprise is.

People don't understand that
you can't--there are times

where you can't even shop for
clothes because they don't exist

and you've never had
to consider that,

that's never been
your reality.

Something that should be
as easy as dressing yourself,

you can't, you know?

Growing up, it was always
a problem, you know,

it was always a thing.

You're always trying
to find clothes that--

there were no options
for curvy teenagers.

- There are women out there
who do not care about fashion,

but everyone has to
wear clothes.

- I always joke that
I either dressed as a goth

or a 50-year-old woman
when I was in high school

because those were my options.

- Being plus size myself
for so many years,

working in fashion
from day one,

I was the girl that was sitting
in fashion meetings,

never talking about
what I had on,

just talking
about the products.

I worked in
a denim company for...

probably about 12 years and
I could never wear the jeans.

- When you're a design student
or even a fashion student--

I studied fashion
merchandising--

you, you're shown the high-end
designers of the world

and that's where
you want to aspire to,

you're not really shown
what the reality is.

Education of designers to design
in plus has not been taught.

It is shocking.

- We need to educate
from the very get-go,

inclusiveness within the fashion
conversation, absolutely.

I think that's a key point.

All the people who are
graduating design schools

around the world
don't understand

how to deal with curves.

So if they're trained in school
and they are taught

from the very beginning of their
freshman year on how to drape

and work with, uh, size two,
four and six, and 16, 18,

20, 22 forms
and you just...

are required to work
on all forms,

then they graduate knowing how
to address a woman's body,

not just a size eight,
two and six.

[applause]

♪

My name is Emme, and I am the
world's first curvy supermodel.

[cheering and applause]

I went to Syracuse
University and I said,

"Will you partner with me

and take on the Fashion
Without Limits idea?"

- Emme came to us,
she's an alum

of the Syracuse Historical
Studies Program.

And I think she came to us
because she saw lots and lots

of bad examples of, um,
garments that have been designed

for smaller women
just scaled up,

and all of the, all of the key
dimensions were wrong.

She felt that there was
a real gap of students

not really knowing how to
engage in business.

- It hadn't really
resonated yet as something

that we thought
we needed to do.

We had never thought
about expanding the size range

of our clothing.

- There are over 100 million
women not catered for

by the classic output
of the fashion industry.

- To see that 50% of American
and British women

are over a size 12.

- For me it was almost
a moment where I said,

who's reality counts here?

Is it the reality of the catwalk
and the designers,

or is it the reality
of these women who actually

can't find things that
make them feel good?

- So when Emme came in
and was explaining this to us,

we thought this is absolutely--
why would we not be doing this?

And why haven't
we been doing this?

Why is everyone
not doing this?

Why is this not just a norm?

In this program,
our hope is that whatever

you guys can design, that will
be an aspirational design,

would look beautiful in a size
zero, it'll look beautiful

in a straight size six,
and it will also look beautiful

in a size 18 or 20 or 22.

So it's just a matter of maybe
slight variation to the design.

- I think it is critical
that any academic institution

that gives a damn about
this whole issue,

address it within
the academic environment.

- Okay, and this is
your design, okay?

I'll give you these.

We're actually doing
plus-size right now.

As a team here we've been
developing different ways

to put it into our program,

and because there really
isn't anyone else doing it,

we've had to kind of figure
it out very organically.

- Because it makes you
a little more cognitive

of what you're doing.

It makes you a lot more
aware of where things hang

and where things fall
and how things fit.

- In my family, we have
a lot of larger women too

and they have to wear very
basic things and other--

it kind of helped me
understand a little bit

because I see where they're
coming from now

and that there's really
a need...for new designs.

- The industry's obviously
having issues trying to fit

plus-size women, and I think
it's good to start now,

in school, learning how to do
things for the younger, um,

the younger shopper,
something that's more trendier.

- I don't think designing for
plus-size is any more difficult.

I think it's just different.

- It doesn't present
any more difficulties.

It's a matter of what are you--
what are you used to?

And it's a matter of learning,
I mean, those who do it well

are those who understand
the female figure

and understand ergonomics,
how people move,

understand silhouette,
proportion and fit.

It's not rocket science.

- You know, we don't
want to end up with,

"This doesn't fit,
she's too big."

We want to be able to have
every fashion student

in the whole country
and in the whole world

actually designing
for real women and real men.

- Parsons is considered
one of the top schools

in both the US and worldwide
for fashion.

There's a very long list
of very, um,

noteworthy alumni,
from the program.

- It's so difficult
and challenging to get

that academic department
to do any kind of morphing

and adapting to new ways
of thinking.

- That's a girl, okay.

- Why do you think that
we're only teaching students

how to design and cut and drape
on size six, eight, nine?

- I don't know.

It's an old model, and we're
kind of stuck on the old model.

Somebody put the irons
in backwards,

and after that everybody
put the irons in backwards,

they were afraid
to change it.

- I mean, we speak about it
when we're, you know,

presenting how
we want students to think.

We don't have classes
specifically for that yet.

- So how are you learning
to do your plus size here?

- I mean,
it's been kind of, um,

a self-taught journey,
I think, um...

For my first three years
of college,

I was always designing
for a size six, and, you know,

I always felt bad about myself
because it's like, you know,

I'm making clothes and I'm never
going to be able to wear this.

I grew up here in Miami
and I was bullied my entire life

because I've always been
on the chubby side.

And I moved to the Dominican
Republic when I was 14.

In the Dominican Republic
being plus-size

is not much of an issue,

and thankfully
over there, slowly,

I started gaining
my self-confidence again.

I came back and then I was kind
of bombarded again with that,

um...kind of bullying because,
you know, adults bully.

It was my last
semester of junior year

that I decided, you know,
enough is enough,

I'm not gonna keep designing
for a size that I will never be.

And...I just decided,
let's just do plus-size...

'cause it's who I am.

You know, living in a society
where you're not accepted,

it's hard not being accepted.

And...I want to change that,
and I'm going to change that.

- Like, all of us feel
inadequate no matter

where we are,
unfortunately.

But for me, as an image maker,
I don't see it that way.

This cast of characters,
we all play different roles.

Your thing is that
you are our Serena.

That's so sexy.
- Yeah it is.

- And I think we need to see it
as being very sexy

because that's how I see it.

- People don't, and I grew up
being very insecure

about the way I looked
because people thought

I was too muscular or too
masculine, not enough chest

and no hips, I just
never felt, like, sexy.

There's still certain
things in the industry

that are still
so far behind.

A lot of the women that they're
choosing for fitness campaigns

are not-- they're not fit,
like, they don't look strong,

they don't look healthy
in terms of consuming food.

- Yeah.
- I'm an athlete,

and I would want my daughter
to see women that look like me

running, playing basketball,
playing soccer or hockey.

I'm a little bit too big
for what they want to cast

for fitness models,
which is odd--I'm an athlete.

I should actually be
the perfect body type or build

for those kind of projects,

and I lose out all the time
to people smaller than me.

They're using very
slim models to portray

this strong fitness persona,

and real athletes
do not look like that.

[background conversations]

[camera clicking]

- It's something different,
to design for every woman,

but it's certainly achievable.

Women should feel,
"I'm being treated equally."

- I don't feel like there is one
"right" way to look,

and I think that most women
feel exactly that same way.

But we need to keep
underlining that,

and keep underlining
the fact that beauty comes

in all sorts of
shapes and sizes.

- And if you could re-imagine
beauty and re-imagine fashion

to feel represented,
what would it look like?

- Um, I think I'd like to see
a lot more diversity, um,

like, women of color or women
that are a lot darker

and not white-washed
and Photoshopped.

- Different skin colors,
different heights,

different weights.

- The fashion industry
shouldn't worry about your race

or your size or...anything.

I think it should be about,
like, who fits,

like, the image
of your brand.

- Having more representation
on who is modeling the clothes

in general,
and showing that, like,

people of all different weights
and all different sizes

can be beautiful.

- You have to
celebrate everyone.

It really is about
all different types of women.

How are you?

Nice to see you again--
thank you.

Okay, you want to do
a little walk?

Go up and back?

That's okay.

Thank you so much.

- Thank you.
- Thank you.

Any woman that walks
into our studio, um,

it doesn't click in our head,
like, oh, she's a bigger size,

let's figure out
how we're gonna do this.

It just--we just don't--
that just doesn't happen.

Why I'm proud of my work,

I love that we can dress women
of all these different ages,

all these different sizes.

You know, women like Danielle,
women like Oprah,

and then women like Sarah
Hyland, who is small and petite,

and Gwyneth Paltrow,
who is tall and slender

and also beautiful, they're all
beautiful in their own way.

[camera clicking]

- Being a fashion designer,

it's our choice whether we
choose to make our samples

in size zero, size six, size
20--that's a decision that we,

as fashion designers, are
making, are empowered to make,

and no one's telling us
otherwise, so I feel like

it's a personal
responsibility for me

and everyone on
the Chromat team to open up

what is considered a standard
runway size and build pieces

in all different sizes and show
women and the next generation

of girls and anyone
on the gender spectrum

that they are all, like, part
of our world and is someone

that we want to celebrate.

Do you feel like it
should be tighter

or do you think it's good?

- Uh, I feel like it's good.

- So easy.
[laughs]

Awesome.

You want to do, like,
a little walk?

There's definitely no excuse
for anyone else to, like,

choose only one size
for their runway.

I don't know why
people do that.

I mean, actually, I do--
because it's probably easier.

All of your products are the
same, you just copy and paste.

It takes a little more hard work
to do custom fit garments

for each of
your runway models.

- Oh, my God,
I'm so excited to be here.

- Aww.

So for you we have kind of
like a beach cover-up vibe.

- Nice--so it's pretty
much naked.

- Yeah.
[laughs]

- Cool.

- Denise Bidot was
the first curved model

to ever walk in our show,

and so she holds a special
place in Chromat history.

♪

- ♪ Yeah yeah

♪ Yeah yeah yeah

- When we started having
our runway shows,

from the beginning
we've always cast diverse women.

And in the beginning
it was so frustrating

because all the press
would be about that.

And I was like, so upset, I was,
what--I spent six months

working on these garments
and that's--no one cares.

But then this season,
reading our reviews

after the runway shows,

it made me realize
that I was so proud

that this was what
we represent

and this is what
people know us as.

And I hope to get to one day
where that's not news anymore.

I want that to not be news,
I want that to not be shocking.

I want everyone else
to be as shocked as I am.

When you see--
open up a magazine

and see page after page of
beauty ads of all white women--

like, I want that
to be shocking.

[background conversations]

- One like, across here.

- Yeah.

- Can I get her to be here
for a quick five minute--

oh, when you're done with her?

Yeah, yeah!
Yum!

- So, when I was pulling
this way,

I was really thinking
about this for you guys...

This, this...

When you guys come together
and it's really emotive,

that's where that magic
is gonna happen.

- We have 80 million women
in this nation

who are larger
than a size 12.

They want to spend money,
they want options.

What's so befuddling
and perplexing for me is

where is retail
in all this?

[marching band playing]

- There's a huge growth
opportunity we think

for the full women's business,

which has been flat for many
years, um, with really the,

the, the smaller sizes
in decline

and the plus sizes
in growth.

- People--girls, men, women,
children--are starting

to finally be encouraged
that everyone is created equal

and that, uh, we should all be
able to go into a store

and find clothes
that fit our bodies.

- And not be ashamed to find
clothes that fit our bodies.

- Yeah.
- No one wants to walk around

in a Mumu--we want trendy,
sexy, fabulous, fearless,

unapologetically gorgeous,

amazing outfits.

- Since day one I think
our main mission

is to address
the body itself.

It's not just the clothes
that you put on the body,

but it's the actual
body itself

because that's where the stigma
exists, um, that that body

somehow is not worthy of
being shown or being celebrated.

♪

- ♪ Baby one more time

♪ Oh oh oh

♪ Uh-oh

♪ Oh oh oh

- The body positivity message
has always been very much

at the center of all these
ad campaigns that we've done,

all these initiatives,
and always doing it

with a little bit of sass,
a lot of confidence,

a lot of love
for these women.

And we just want
everybody to forget that

they're plus-size women.

We just want them
to think of them as women.

- But it's not just
a women's issue.

I think everybody has cause
or reason to be concerned about

where we are in society and
the movement towards inclusivity

and diversity in general.

I'm a father of six,
five of those are daughters,

and four of those are between
the ages of 15 and 21 today.

And so I've watched the journey
and the pressure that they feel,

so as a father, watching
young women grow to the future,

wildly concerned that
we make progress in this place.

- I think that everyone's
open to seeing a new normal.

- Things are happening.

- I've been in the New York
market for about 18 years now,

and I've seen it stop
and start several times,

and this movement feels much
different than any in the past.

It's sustainable,
and the public's behind it.

- Because of social media,

for the first time ever,
in a very powerful way,

we all have a voice that
we did not have a decade ago.

We all have a way
to speak out actively

and to activate against brands,
to activate against issues,

to activate against one another,
for the betterment of society.

- As models we're now
spokespersons for ourselves,

but as spokespersons for our
industry we're responsible

for a lot of the way that young
girls and young boys,

and in fact everyone
sees themselves.

- Social media
has given me visibility.

It's meant that now I'm more
than a zed card,

I'm more than a comp card,

I'm more than just
a set of measurements.

I'm able to have a voice,
I'm able to share knowledge.

- And I think if each and every
one of us acknowledges

the responsibility that we have
and we use our own little voices

in every single way that we
have to go out there and speak,

we can affect change.

- That's a wrap, ladies!

[cheering and applause]

- And the illusion fades.

We're back to being normal.

[background conversations]

♪

- All the kisses.

- Oh, look at them.

- Thanks for that one.

- To everyone there!

- Bye, ladies!
- Bye!

- You got it?

- I am very conscious about

how an image may be perceived
now more than ever.

For me it's about
portraying these women

in a very intentional light,

not just in this project but
kind of in everything that I do.

I want to send messages that
are important--empower women,

diverse bodies,
range of ethnicities--

those are the messages
I want to communicate.

[background conversations]

- It still needs to, like,
get farther to seeing, like,

every type of person.

- I still want to see girls
of all shapes and sizes

and, like, races.

- Being represented in
a magazine makes you feel good

and happy about yourself,
and you say that, you know,

you're worthy of this
and you're proud to be

who you are and...yeah.

[background conversations]

- And I think it's really
important that every girl

has that kind of realization
in her head

and that same opportunity
to look at herself and say,

"I am enough
and I am beautiful."

- So that anybody who looks like
one of these women is like,

"Oh, like,
she's so beautiful,

like, and I look like her,
so that makes me beautiful too."

- Like, my biggest kept secret
is that the difference between

photographing straight-size
women and plus-size women

is there is no difference.

Any experienced
photographer

with a great eye and
a strong technical foundation

can capture any size woman
in any way.

It's nothing to do with the
technical aspect of photography

and everything to do with the
perspective of the individual.

- Hi, I'm Nicolette,
nice to meet you.

- I love it!

I have not been to
an exhibition

and seen such
diversity of size, colors,

of different ages, ever.

- It's like...
it feels like a dream.

- I'm so happy!

This is awesome!

Can you take a picture with me?
- Of course.

- You don't see this amount
of diversity anywhere

in one showing,
it's really beautiful.

The evolution has been really
20 years in the making,

but it--we're,
we're getting there.

[background conversations]

- That's what I want
to see more of

in the fashion industry
just seeing just bodies

that look like mine and
my mother's and my sister's.

- I feel like if you don't
see representation,

you don't understand that this--
these sort of things exist

or you don't understand
that you are normal.

- It helps seeing stuff
like this for girls like me

who grew up with the very...
idea that we have to conform.

- When you see other girls
that are actually represented

in your body type, it's like,
wow, I really can do anything.

I can do whatever I want,

I can have this body
and still appreciate myself.

- It makes me feel hopeful.

- I've been waiting to see
these kind of images

for my entire life.

- There's a real
sea change happening,

particularly around gender,
around women,

who are demanding
to be visible and to be seen

in photography and video
across the board.

And I think it's something
that we all have to be mindful,

as image creators, to be as
inclusive as we possibly can.

- I feel overwhelmed.
[laughing]

I'm not gonna cry,
I'm not gonna cry.

- Don't do it!
- I'm not gonna do it--whoo!

- Stop!

- I think that seeing
high-end imagery

is just going to inspire people
to make more high-end imagery,

at least I hope.

[laughing]

♪

- There is not one standard
of beauty anymore.

There is no cookie cutter
pretty anymore.

Women come in
all shapes and sizes,

and if we all suddenly
wanted to look exactly alike,

how sad would that be,
and how boring.

- We absolutely must
find ways to stop

weight-related
discrimination and stigma.

- No one is motivated
towards healthy behavior

by feeling ashamed.

We have to move towards
a more diverse picture.

- It just needs to happen and
eventually we all look around

and realize that we're
surrounded by a diversity

of images and body types
and skin colors and realize,

good heavens,
this is a much richer world

that we're living in.

♪

- We have to move
because it affects

our future
generations of women.

- So let's push
the needle forward

and to make it
really happen.

♪

[upbeat music]

- ♪ Why you hanging
in the background ♪

♪ Like a painting
that's been turned round ♪

♪ Come on, come on, come on,
come on ♪

♪ Come on, come on,
come on, come on ♪

♪ Why you humming
with your mouth shut ♪

♪ It's like Aretha
singing back-up ♪

♪ Come on, come on, come on,
come on ♪

♪ You know the words,
go write the song ♪

♪ Make it loud

♪ It's your time now

♪ Can you feel it now

♪ You got the heart
of a phoenix ♪

♪ So let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ Let them know
that you mean it ♪

♪ Let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ You feel it burn
when you're knocked down ♪

♪ But let the fire be
your crown ♪

♪ Come on, come on,
come on, come on ♪

♪ Come on, come on, come on,
come on ♪

♪ Go and claim your kingdom

♪ Then slay
all your demons ♪

♪ Come on, come on,
come on, come on ♪

♪ I know you know
where you belong ♪

♪ Don't look now

♪ But you're off the ground

♪ Can you feel it now

♪ You got the heart
of a phoenix ♪

♪ So let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ Let them know
that you mean it ♪

♪ Let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ Let's see you show
how high you can go ♪

♪ Flying right past
the ones who said no ♪

♪ Let's give them all
one hell of a show ♪

♪ Hey, hey

♪ You got the heart
of a phoenix ♪

♪ So let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ You got the heart,
you got the heart ♪

♪ You got the heart of a,
heart of a, hey ♪

♪ You got the heart,
you got the heart ♪

♪ You got the heart of a,
heart of a, hey ♪

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you got the heart ♪

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heart of a, hey ♪

♪ You got the heart,
you got the heart ♪

♪ You got the heart of a,
heart of a ♪

♪ You go the heart
of a phoenix ♪

♪ So let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ Let them know
that you mean it ♪

♪ Let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ You got the heart
of a phoenix ♪

♪ So let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey

♪ Let them know
that you mean it ♪

♪ Let them see you rise

♪ Hey, hey...