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Job
Study 4
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job 11-14
Who can bring what is pure from the impure?
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Impure No one best job
speaking, but actually he
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enters in our study in our
Chapters 11 to 14 here enters
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now the third of our
conferences and that sofa and
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he's wein to read if we made
from Chapter 11 and I'll read
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beginning at verse two, then
Zia the Nath replied are all
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words to go and answered. is
this talker to be vindicated
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goes on.
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And then we ought to say that
if Ellis the first of the
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believe that if we trust God,
we'll be blessed with health
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and wealth, And then if build
at the second one argue that
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this will only come to those
who earned it. So how would you
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describe Zulus argument? you
know, I think he sort of
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seasons of a bit more sort of
spiritual in a way, and he kind
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of is thinking. Well there. You
go like devote your heart to
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him like the others are sort of
thinking about what you should
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do. Go to this or stop doing
that and all those things and
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he's like no. it's more about
your inner life job you need to
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set yourself inside where you
really need to do the reason
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you're suffering job is you
need to go on a retreat or do
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have more quiet times. If you
have more quiet times and set
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yourself inside, then the Lord
will be right. In fact, your
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life will be brighter the noon
day if you could only be more
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spiritual and on the other
hand. Has this view of God he
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has like Oh the wisdom of God
is so huge and God is so great
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and so high and andaz. so in
the one hand that they that
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they're very majesty and wisdom
of God is this great thing
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That's almost against us in a
way, but then it's like Joe but
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you could you could reach that
if you were just really devoted
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and and and zealous and So
Clean yourself inside out,
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which, of course, Joe was very
anxious because he's like the
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Lord's examining me very close
and I can't stand that
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examination. So if I was like
Kaia Kan Joe. Quiet time more
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Bible study and then you will
be able to do it. I don't know
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I think it's quite quite many
even says at the end. If you do
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that, you will be able to die
with no fear and you're like
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whoa. so that's quite
something. So now this is our
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job comes back. I mean, Chapter
12 verses one and two sounds a
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bit sarcastic. Here's jobber
playing darkness. You are the
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people and wisdom will die with
you, but I have a mind as well
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as you I'm not inferior to you
and so he goes on in that kind.
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Well, approach
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Kind of truth from that we
might just say that God is very
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big or you know he loves beauty
or something like that, but
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actually throughout the
Scriptures. when people look at
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the natural world, They lett
all sorts of things about the
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father's care about how we can
trust in the Lord so Job is
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forever looking at the animals.
Elihu we'll see he looks at the
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animals and brings up the
animals. The Lord himself and
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and job 38 and and following he
brings up the animals the Lord
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when he takes flesh in the
sermon on the Mount Hess you.
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Instead of the birds consider
the lilies, you can learn all
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sorts of theology. I think it's
very confronting for us because
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I I genuinely I generally look
at the natural world and I
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think it a bit like a factory
floor and everything's just
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mechanical and you pull a lever
and there's just Buggs and all
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animal life is just kind of DNA
replication machines that are
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sort of designed for
efficiency. When anyone in the
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Bible looks at the natural
world, they say it's the it's
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the Father's House and in Psalm
80 - four you know the. Just
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want to be near the Lord In
Psalm hundred and four, they
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look to the Lord for food in
Psalm Hundred and 40 - eight.
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They praise the Lord. I think
we have such an impoverished
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view of the natural world.
these days, we need to get back
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to how Joe's or things they do
you remember when we had that
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time in book by book with
Steven Longo, the man who was
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brought to faith in Christ at
the very meeting, you got to
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blow up with explosives Yes and
that night, he said, as he went
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to bed as a At the stars he
saw, he said, I saw them for
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the first time. It's how
beautiful they are next day. He
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woke up and thought those birds
wonderful. Then he went up to a
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tree and hugged him and said
Jesus can you see me This is
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how much I love you. It's the
hugg it. If you were here, I
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would hug you like a hug this
tree exactly that's right. So
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now Bess basic Repubs sofa in
Chapter 12. How would you how
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can we kind of summarize it?
Well? I think it's as you say
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at the beginning of the chapter
when he's really. You are not
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any comfort at all and in this
verse five of Chapter 12 mandie
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have contempt for misfortune at
the faith of those who faces
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the and say look you're you're
looking at me and suffering and
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you're comfortable and you're
not relating to this at all.
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You're not really helping at
all you're in the position of
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comfort and that's the thing
isn't it to say you know it's
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very easy when people are not
suffering to just make Oh well.
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Tell you the problem with this
is you're like no don't say
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that if you don't understand
don't say anything and say I
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wish you wouldn't do that from
a position of comfort look down
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on me and make me feel worse
with rubbish advice of thing.
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but then he looks at the way
the Lord cuz so far in the
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friends and said Listen, this
is the way the world the world
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works, but then Job says, Is it
really like that? and he says,
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look at the way the world
actually works that the Lord
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does raise up and bring down,
but it doesn't seem to work
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along the lines of the goodies
are lift. And the bodies are
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pulled down, he says. When I
look at the world, I see like
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priests like the the the
religious people, the people
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who are supposed to be the
goodies. Sometimes they're the
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ones who are stripped and and
brought down or the lips of
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trusted advisers taken away. so
he says No. I don't think the
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world is as simplistic as you
guys say it is so first of all
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it says that but I like it in
Chapter 13 because he's really
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saying verse three chapter 13.
It's very important. Yes, he's
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saying. Look. I don't think the
world is quite what you think.
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But what I really need is to
meet with the Almighty. I
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decided to speak to the
Almighty to argue my case with
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God. so he's like saying I'm
looking for answers. Yeah, I
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mean I hear what you're saying.
I don't think it fits. it
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doesn't come from me. It
doesn't seem to be how the
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world works, but I what I
really need is him. I need him
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so job is just pressing on
really right through Chapter
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12, Verse 13, and he's feeding
his case and it's that first. I
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just have to speak to the
Almighty to argue my case with
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with God how dangerous is it to
engage with God like that?
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Well? It depends. it depends if
you're outside of Christ coming
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before the most Holy father,
who's eyes are to pure to even
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look on evil. It's it's a
perilous thing to come before
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the father outside of Christ,
Hebrews 10 Verse 31. It's a
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dreadful thing to fall into the
hands of the living God and yet
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in Christ in Christ in the
great mediator who has one hand
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on us and one hand on the
Father In Him, we can. Him and
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we can call him father and we
have that intimacy and so from
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job 13 verse three, We see that
what Joe really wants more than
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an answer. I mean he does ask
for an answer. He does. He does
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20 times. He asks God, you know
why is this happening to me and
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we can understand that but more
than that from far more deeply,
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he wants the Lord himself. He
wants to know Christ himself
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and know the father through him
and when we see that that trust
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coming through, especially in
verse 15 of Chapter 13, though
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he slay. Yes, will I hope in
him? That's what he wants. He
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wants the Lord himself no
matter what happens. Oh, that's
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a verse that matters have used
and people in the deepest
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suffering or deepest Mara. If
you slay Yes, I will trust him
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and like when we we're with
John Erickson taran and she was
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saying from who you know she
knows what it's like to suffer
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and be brought low and I like
the fact that people would
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often say to her. Oh, here's
the answer or here's what you
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need and she'd go look the Lord
doesn't what was. It doesn't
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always give us answers. He
gives us himself yes and and
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not from her so powerful cuz
that's true. It was very
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powerful from her. So it wasn't
just the trajectory of your day
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when you broke your your back
the just the wrong angle. No,
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it wasn't any of that. Yes, he
gave himself. That's that's
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very important. Only Heian
Chapter 14. Where does job
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meditate on human mortality at
the beginning? Do you see that
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Chapter 14? Well, that's true
because. Way all these
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characters are saying well,
life like let's have a
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wonderful life and if you you
know whether you've got this
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inner sunshine so far off and
the others are saying and you
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can have all the health and
wealth and wonderful times and
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in a way just saying Whoa. Just
hang on man Born of woman is in
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a few days and full of trouble.
trouble brings up like a flower
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with us away like a shadow.
Yeah. So he it's the really the
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advice of Moses as well.
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Look whether I have loads of
suffering or in the last days
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of my life, or maybe I've got a
few more days. Whatever
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nevertheless, each day, I need
to learn this. The word of the
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Lord stands forever. I do not
and I have no life other than
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him. If I'm built on him, I
have a life that's secure him
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forever without him And just
like smoke or like a weed and
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nothing other than him. It's a
it's a powerful meditation that
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we need to regular. Have 250
years ago, People would think
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quite a lot about death because
it was close to them in the
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West as it's not so close to us
now with better health and all
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the rest of it. so but it's
right, isn't it for a young
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person to quite early on to
think well, What about eternity
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my future? my mortality? all of
that? What is job think about
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death in Chapter 14, for
example, verse 14. If a man
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dies will he live A-game Well,
Joe has been thinking.
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To me something beyond the
grave, but then he thinks a bit
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further in verse 10, but he
says, but man dies at his laid
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low. You know for us. It's not
so much the circle of life.
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It's just an arrow pointed
straight from the grave which
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is a terrifying thought for
him, but he thinks about it
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some more and then we get to
verse 30 and he says. If only
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you Lord would hide me in the
grave and conceal me till your
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anger has passed or should we
say past over we sort of
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thinking. 12 turns that way
that there is a shelter in the
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grave And just like the
Israelite Shelton under the
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blood of the lamb. So we who
trust in Jesus and in His death
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as we go into death, then we
can be sheltered from God's
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wrath And then we will be
remembered and verse 13 and the
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verse 14. We will wait for our
renewal to come in verse 15. I
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love this You Lord will call
and I will answer you as we
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think of Lazarus at the tomb
saying to. Or rather Jesus at
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the tomb, saying Lazarus come
out he he longs for Lazarus
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verse 15. He calls to Lazarus
and then verse six verse 16 out
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we will come from the grave,
but we will leave our sins
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behind. so that's a great hope
resurrection from the dead, but
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then in verses 18 to 20 - two
job sort of takes his eyes off
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that truth. And then it becomes
a very bleak kind of thing. he
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seems to sink down into his
suffering when he doesn't have
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his eyes fixed on Jesus and If
I remember, it's because I
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remember talking to an
international leader, it was a
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privilege to talk with him
because he was suffering
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greatly with this the whole
bunch of people that he was
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supposed to be leading in this
part of the world and his
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people in despair, They said to
him what do we do or how we
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survive all this and his answer
was we are in the Middle of a
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great storm, but Jesus is with
us in the boat and if we can
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keep our eyes on Jesus, he will
help us.
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