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>> MIND IF I SMOKE

WHILE YOU'RE EATING?

>> KISSING WITH THEIR TONGUE.

>> AND THAT'S FIRST CLASS?

>> CORRECT.

>> WHICH PART OF FIRST CLASS?

SEX OR NONSEX?

>> IT'LL BE LIKE I NEVER

EVEN EXISTED.

>> I'M LUKE SKYWALKER.

I'M HERE TO SAVE YOU.

>> I'M BEING RESCUED BY

A TRANSVESTITE?

>> MY GOD, HE'S A PERVERT, TOO.

>> WHAT WE DID WAS

TERRIBLY WRONG.

>> IS THIS SEXUAL HARASSMENT?

>> YEAH...

>> DO YOU THINK YOU'RE

LIBERATED?

(PADDLE SMACKS)

>> (SOBBING)

>>YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE!

>> I DESPISE YOU!

>> FUCK THAT SHIT. RUN.

>> AND THANK YOU FOR FLYING

STAR TOURS.

♪♪

>> MOVIES HAVE BEEN MAKING US

LAUGH AND CRY, GASP AND SCREAM

FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

AND SINCE THE EARLIEST DAYS

OF CINEMA, ADULT FILMS HAVE

BEEN A PART OF THE MOTION

PICTURE LANDSCAPE, MAKING US

GASP FOR ENTIRELY DIFFERENT

REASONS.

AS FAR BACK AS THE 1880's,

FILMMAKERS SAW THE GOLDMINE

POTENTIAL OF EROTIC FILM--

LOOPS, STAG FILMS,

PEEP SHOW BOOTHS.

FOR THE NEXT 90 YEARS,

SOCIETY WATCHED SEX IN

A VARIETY OF WAYS.

THEN IN THE 1970's,

EVERYTHING CHANGED.

TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A MORE

SOCIALLY PERMISSIVE ATMOSPHERE,

DIRECTORS BEGAN TELLING STORIES

SURROUNDING THE HARDCORE SEX.

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER,

FULL-LENGTH MOVIES WITH

EXPLICIT SEX WERE BEING SHOWN

IN THEATERS FOR A MASS AUDIENCE.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERSTATE THE

IMPORTANCE OF GERARD DAMIANO'S

FILM, "DEEP THROAT."

THIS MOVIE OPENED THE DOOR FOR

VIRTUALLY EVERY ADULT FEATURE

THAT CAME AFTER.

WHILE THE EXAGGERATED CLOSE-UPS,

CAMPY PERFORMANCES, AND

FIREWORKS GOING OFF DURING

ORGASMS MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE

COMICAL TO A MODERN AUDIENCE,

IN 1972, AUDIENCES HAD NEVER

SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.

WHETHER DISCUSSING ADULT OR

MAINSTREAM, "DEEP THROAT"

REMAINS ONE OF THE MOST

>> YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT MORE

OUT OF SEX THAN JUST A LOT OF

LITTLE TINGLES?

>> YES, I WANNA HEAR BELLS

AND BOMBS--

>> YES, WE JUST WENT THROUGH

THAT, MISS LOVELACE. LET'S NOT

DO THAT PART AGAIN.

>> I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDER

A CERTAIN AGE UNDERSTAND JUST

HOW EDGY AND HOW RADICAL IT WAS

TO PUT ACTUAL SEX IN A BIG MOVIE

THEATER.

>> "DEEP THROAT," IN PARTICULAR,

OPEN A LOT OF DOORS.

IT MADE IT-- SEEING SOMETHING

LIKE THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE,

AND THEN THAT HELPED IN MAKING

>> "DEEP THROAT" AND...

"THE DEVIL IN MISS JONES"

PLAYED THE DOUBLE BILL FOR,

>> WHEN "DEEP THROAT" CAME OUT

IN NEW YORK THEATERS, LINES

AROUND THE BLOCK-- JACKIE O.

>> JACKIE KENNEDY WENT TO SEE--

>> DEEP THROAT IS THIS GIRL

SHE'S-- SHE'S TIRED OF-- OF SEX.

SHE THINKS THAT IT SHOULD BE

MORE THAN JUST LITTLE TINGLES.

>> IT MAKES ME FEEL SORT OF

TINGLY ALL OVER, AND THEN--

>> AND THEN WHAT?

>> NOTHING. I MEAN THERE SHOULD

BE MORE TO SEX THAN A LOT OF

LITTLE TINGLES.

THERE SHOULD BE BELLS RINGING,

SEAMS BURSTING, BOMBS GOING

OFF-- SOMETHING.

>> DO YOU WANNA GET OFF, OR DO

YOU WANNA WRECK A CITY?

>> SHE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SHE

CAN'T HAVE AN ORGASM, BECAUSE

SHE HAS ALL THIS SEX, AND

NOTHING-- I MEAN IT'S NICE, BUT

NOTHING HAPPENS.

SO, UM, SHE GOES TO SEE A SEX

THERAPIST, MR. HARRY REIMS,

WHO, UM, EXAMINES HER AND

DISCOVERS THAT HER CLITORIS

IS ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY IN

THE BACK OF HER THROAT.

>> WELL, THERE IT IS.

YOU LITTLE BUGGER!

THERE IT IS!

>> WHAT?

>> WELL, YOUR CLITORIS, IT'S

DEEP DOWN IN THE BOTTOM OF YOUR

THROAT.

>> (SOBBING)

>> NOW, NOW, MISS LOVELACE,

LISTEN, HAVING A CLITORIS DEEP

DOWN IN THE BOTTOM OF YOUR

THROAT IS BETTER THAN HAVING

NO CLITORIS AT ALL.

>> THERE'S A THEME SONG--

I FORGOT.

UM, THERE'S A THEME SONG

WHEN SHE DISCOVERS THIS--

THIS, UH, SKILL.

>> ♪ DEEP THROAT ♪

♪ DEEPER THAN DEEP YOUR THROAT ♪

♪ DEEP THROAT ♪

♪ ROW ROW YOUR BOAT ♪

>> SHE FINALLY HAS AN ORGASM.

THERE'S A MONTAGE OF FIREWORKS

AND BELLS RINGING AND A ROCKET

SHIP GOING UP WHILE IT'S

FLASHING BETWEEN HER FACE COMING

AND... SO FUNNY.

SO HE HIRES HER AS A NURSE,

AND SHE GOES OUT ON CALL

AND FUCKS ALL THESE GUYS.

>> TELL ME, MR. MOORE,

HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW?

>> AND, EVENTUALLY, SHE FINDS

THE PERFECT PENIS

FOR HER THROAT.

AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER MONTAGE.

IN MOST '70s PORNO, EVERYONE

HAS A LOT OF HAIR, BUT IN

"DEEP THROAT," LINDA IS

COMPLETELY CLEAN-SHAVEN.

I WONDERED IF MAYBE SHE STARTED

THAT TREND PERHAPS?

OR MADE IT POPULAR AT LEAST?

I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE SO MANY

PEOPLE SAW IT,

>> NIXON, ALONG WITH KEATING,

AND THAT ADMINISTRATION WAS OUT

TO STOP THE NEGATIVE PRESS OF

WATERGATE AND, UH, VIETNAM.

>> I THINK REVISITING THIS STORY

AND REVISITING, YOU KNOW, THE

TACTICS THAT CAME INTO PLAY

THAT, UH, THEY HAD A PROBLEM

MORALLY WITH SUBJECT MATTER,

AS IN "DEEP THROAT," THE FILM,

UM, IS IMPORTANT.

>> AND THE EASIEST TARGET WAS

THE ADULT FILM INDUSTRY.

NIXON RIGGED THE COURTROOM AND

RIGGED THE JUDGE AND GOT HIS,

UH, CONVICTIONS AGAINST THE CAST

MEMBERS OF "DEEP THROAT."

>> I DEFINITELY THINK SHE'S--

SHE'S BETTER AT, UM,

DEEP-THROATING THICKER COCKS

THAN I AM, BUT I DEFINITELY

DROOL A LOT MORE THAN SHE DOES.

>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU ARE

ABOUT TO WITNESS THE RAVISHMENT

OF A WOMAN WHO HAS BEEN

ABDUCTED.

>> I ANSWERED AN AD IN THE

"SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE"

THAT SAID "NOW CASTING FOR A

MAJOR MOTION PICTURE."

SO I WALKED UP THE STAIRS, AND I

SAT IN THEIR OFFICE, AND HERE'S

THESE TWO BROTHERS WHO ARE

ABSOLUTELY CHARMING, FABULOUS

NOT THE LEAST BIT OF A QUESTION

IN MY MIND THAT THEY WERE

TOTALLY HONEST GUYS.

(SCREAMING)

THEY EXPLAINED TO ME THE STORY

OF "BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR,"

WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY COOL,

BECAUSE THAT WAS THE TIME OF

DRUGS, SEX, AND ROCK-N-ROLL.

IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW,

ANYTHING WENT.

BEFORE I LEFT, I SAID, "IF YOU

DO WANT ME TO DO THIS, BY THE

WAY, I WANT THIS AMOUNT OF

MONEY AND THIS PERCENTAGE OF

WHATEVER FOR SO MANY YEARS."

AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, "DON'T

CALL US, WE'LL CALL YOU."

SO ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, I'M

SITTING AT MY HOUSE, AND THEY

CALLED AND SAID, "WE WANNA

DO IT."

SO THEY CAME OVER FOR ME TO

SIGN THE CONTRACT, AND THAT WAS,

UH, THAT WAS THE END OF THAT.

>> ALTHOUGH, AT FIRST,

HER REACTIONS MAY LEAD YOU TO

BELIEVE THAT SHE IS BEING

TORTURED, QUITE THE CONTRARY

IS TRUE, FOR NO HARM WILL COME

TO THOSE BEING RAVISHED.

IN THE MORNING, SHE WILL BE

SET FREE, UNAWARE OF ANYTHING

EXCEPT THAT SHE HAS BEEN LOVED

AS NEVER BEFORE.

>> THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE

MOVIE WAS-- AND I SAID TO THEM,

"I'M AN ACTRESS, AND I SAY

NOT ONE WORD."

HE SAID, "OH, NO, THAT'S EVEN

MORE DIFFICULT," WHICH IT IS.

BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE TO

CONVEY YOUR FEELINGS, WHATEVER

THEY MAY BE, THROUGH YOUR EYES

AND YOUR ACTIONS.

AND I SAID, "I DON'T REALLY

WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE WILD AND

SEXY, AND IT'S GONNA BE SCARY,

PROBABLY, FOR ME AT CERTAIN

TIMES, BUT I DON'T

WANT TO KNOW."

JOHNNIE KEYES, HE WAS THE BLACK

GUY WITH THE SHARK TEETH

AROUND HIS NECK AND, UM,

VERY ETHNIC LOOKING.

AND WHEN WE STARTED TO HAVE SEX,

IT WAS THE KIND OF THING WHERE

I WAS, LIKE, TOTALLY FREAKED

OUT, I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA

>> I FUCKED HER FOR A LONG TIME.

I FUCKED HER FOR 43 MINUTES

WITHOUT STOPPING. NOBODY DOES

THAT. THAT WAS A MARATHON FUCK.

WHERE IT TURNED FROM TERROR

TO PLEASURE, AND I REALLY

BELIEVE YOU CAN SEE THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TIME

THAT I FELT MYSELF SLIP ON TO

THE OTHER SIDE,

IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

>> UH, MARILYN, SHE PASSED OUT,

SHE FAINTED. AND I-- IN MY MIND,

I SAID, "SHIT, I'M GOING TO

JAIL. I DONE KILLED THIS WHITE

WOMAN WITH MY DICK."

>> WELL, THE TRAPEZES

WERE A BIT MUCH.

IT'S A GOOD THING I WAS IN

PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, BECAUSE THERE

WAS A LOT OF STANDING AROUND,

LITERALLY, ON TOP OF PEOPLE,

AND THERE WAS TRAPEZES

AND WHATNOT. YOU HAD TO BE

A GYMNAST, DEFINITELY.

THE WAY THAT THE STORY OF--

WHEN "BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR"

AND "IVORY SOAP BOX" CAME OUT,

I TOLD THE MITCHELL BROTHERS

THAT, "OH, BY THE WAY, I DID

THIS COMMERCIAL FOR PROCTER &

GAMBLE, UH, IVORY SOAP BOX."

AND THEY'RE SAYING, "WHAT?"

WE WALKED DOWN THE SOAP AISLES,

WE LOOK, AND THERE IS MY MUG

ON ALL THESE BOXES, STARING DOWN

AT US, AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO

BE THE VERY SAME WEEK THAT

"BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR" OPENED

IN THE THEATERS.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT I CREATED

PORNO CHIC, BUT I KNOW THAT I

WAS PART OF IT.

AND THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT

TIME IN OUR HISTORY WHERE PEOPLE

LIKE JOHNNY CARSON WERE WAITING

IN LINE TO SEE "DEEP THROAT."

IT WAS COUPLES, AND IT WAS

ALL DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM

DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE GOING

TO SEE ADULT FILMS AND GETTING

>> YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT

I'M DEAD, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO

DECIDE WHETHER TO SEND ME UP TO

HEAVEN OR DOWN TO HELL.

>> I REALLY HONESTLY THOUGHT

NOBODY I KNEW-- MUCH LESS

ANYBODY I WAS RELATED TO--

WOULD EVER KNOW ABOUT IT.

I CERTAINLY DID NOT EXPECT

IT TO BECOME A HOUSEHOLD WORD.

>> "THE DEVIL IN MISS JONES"

WAS DEFINITELY AN ART MOVIE,

AND I'M STILL NOT REALLY 100%

SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE STORY WAS.

BUT I STILL THINK IT WORKED.

>> CAN YOU HELP ME?

I-- I SEEMED TO HAVE LOST

MY WAY.

>> I'LL HELP YOU ALL I CAN,

BUT YOU'RE NOT LOST.

>> THEN WHERE AM I?

>> YOU'RE HERE.

>> JERRY DAMIANO WAS

THE SWEETEST GUY I EVER MET.

HE LOOKED BACK OVER AT ME,

AND HE SAYS, "CAN YOU COOK?"

I SAID, "YEAH."

HE SAID, "OKAY, YOU WANNA

COOK ON THE FILM?"

I SAID, "SURE."

HE SAID, "I GOT SOMEBODY COMING

IN TO READ THE PART OF THE DEVIL

IN THIS FILM I'M DOING.

WOULD YOU MIND READING

WITH HIM?"

AND I SAID, "SURE,

I'D BE GLAD TO."

I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT

I'VE BEEN TAUGHT.

DOESN'T THAT COUNT FOR ANYTHING?

AND HE LOOKS OVER AT ME,

HE SAID, "WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY

MISS JONES?"

AND I SAID, "AND COOK?"

HOW ABOUT LUST?

>> LUST?

>> YES, LUST.

IT IS ONE OF THE SEVEN DEADLY

SINS, ISN'T IT?

>> HE OFFERED ME $100 A DAY TO

DO MISS JONES.

AND I SAID, "THAT SOUNDS GOOD."

SO I WAS MAKING 125 A DAY,

INSTEAD OF JUST 100.

>> GEORGINA WAS AMAZING.

HER ACTING WAS FANTASTIC,

AND THE WAY THAT SHE FUCKED

WAS SO PASSIONATE.

LIKE, SHE-- SHE BROUGHT ENERGY

TO ALL OF THE SCENES, AND IT

REALLY, REALLY SHOWED.

>> FOR THAT DAY, IT WAS A BIG

BUDGET FILM.

I THINK THEY WERE SPENDING

SOMETHING LIKE $25,000.

IT DIDN'T PUT MY KIDS THROUGH

COLLEGE, BUT IT CERTAINLY DID

OPEN UP AN INTERESTING CAN OF

WORMS FOR MY LIFE.

THAT SUICIDE SCENE-- EVERY ACTOR

AND ACTRESS IN THE WORLD,

FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME,

WANTS TO PLAY A DEATH SCENE.

>> A SUICIDE AT THE BEGINNING

OF A PORN MOVIE REALLY SETS

THE TONE.

AND I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY

BRAVE TO START A MOVIE THAT'S

SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SEX

WITH DEATH.

>> AH, HERMAN, HERMAN, THAT

BEAUTIFUL, SWEET, AFFECTIONATE

BOA, WHO COULD TURN AND LOOK AS

FIERCE AS YOU WANTED HIM TO.

WHAT AN ACTOR.

IT WASN'T PLANNED FOR HIM

TO BE IN THE FILM.

AND I'M TALKING TO THE SNAKE

ON THE BED, AND JERRY WALKS BY

AND SKIDS TO A HALT AND SAID,

"YOU'RE A SNAKE WRANGLER."

HE SAID, "WOULD YOU DO

A SCENE WITH IT?"

MARKS SAYS, "$100 A DAY,

SAME AS I GET."

SO HERMAN WAS IN THE FILM.

THE ANAL SCENE, WHICH EVERYONE,

OF COURSE, ALWAYS ASKS ABOUT--

I DON'T KNOW-- IT'S-- IT'S A

HUGE FANTASY IN EVERYONE'S MIND,

I THINK, TO-- TO GIVE IT A TRY.

AND WHEN IT GETS ALL BIG AND FAT

AND HARD AND SLIPPERY, AND YOU

COULD STICK IT IN MY ASS.

GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS

IS JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES OF--

YOU GET USED TO IT.

>> ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS

ABOUT THE SEX SCENES WAS

GEORGINA'S DIRTY TALK.

>> CAN YOU FEEL HIS PRICK?

CAN HE FEEL YOU?

CAN YOU FEEL HIM?

CAN YOU FEEL YOUR COCKS

TOGETHER?

CAN YOU, RUBBING AGAINST MY...

>> IT SO ADDED TO THE SEX SCENE.

THE DIRTY-- THE DIRTY TALK

WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST THINGS

OF THE MOVIE FOR ME.

>> WHEN JERRY CALLED ME ABOUT

A YEAR AFTER WE DID THE FILM

AND SAID, "I WANT YOU TO GO TO

TORONTO FOR THIS GRAND

OPENING--"

IT WAS LAVISH, IT WAS ELEGANT,

IT WAS COVERED BY A MILLION

CAMERAS ALL OVER THE ROOM, AND

SPLASHED ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND...

I SAID, "WELL, SO MUCH FOR

ANIM-- ANONYMITY NOW.

I GUESS I-- I GUESS I'LL

HAVE TO TELL MY PARENTS WHAT

>> WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

>> MISTY BEETHOVEN.

>> IS THAT YOUR REAL NAME?

>> NO, IT'S NOT.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD SOUND

MORE IMPORTANT.

>> WHAT WAS IT BEFORE?

I WAS CAST IN "MISTY BEETHOVEN"

AND I FLEW TO NEW YORK,

AND I MET HIM, AND HE TALKED TO

ME AND EVERYTHING AND TOLD ME

TO GO BACK HOME AND TO GET

EVERY BIT OF CLOTHING,

EVERY PHOTOGRAPH THAT HAD EVER

BEEN TAKEN OF ME IN MY ENTIRE

LIFE, AND BRING IT ALL BACK

TO NEW YORK.

>> AS HYMAN MANDEL ONCE SAID,

"NEVER LET THE FACT THAT THEY

ARE DOING IT WRONG STOP YOU

FROM DOING IT RIGHT."

>> WHO WAS HYMAN MANDEL?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I READ THAT ON THE MEN'S ROOM

WALL AT THE NEW YORK

>> IT'S A TAKE ON GEORGE BERNARD

SHAW'S "PYGMALION" OR MODERN-DAY

"MY FAIR LADY" OR EVEN "SHE'S

ALL THAT," IF YOU'RE IN THE

BUT IT'S TAKING THIS WOMAN,

WHO IS, LIKE, A DIME-STORE

HOOKER, BASICALLY, GIVING

HAND JOBS IN MOVIE THEATERS.

>> EXCUSE ME,

MY GUM WAS IN FRONT OF YOU.

>> HOW'D YOU KNOW

THAT WAS YOURS?

>> FIVE SEATS IN.

FIVE'S MY LUCKY NUMBER.

YOU AMERICAN?

>> MOST OF THE TIME.

>> FIVE BUCKS FOR A HAND JOB.

I'LL MEET YOU OUTSIDE IN

TEN MINUTES.

>> TEN MINUTES?

>> MM-HMM. TEN MINUTES.

I HAVE TO MEET NAPOLEON.

>> NAPOLEON?

>> NAPOLEON.

HI. YOU'RE RIGHT ON TIME.

>> JAMIE GILLIS WAS A

SEXOLOGIST, AND HE WAS GOING

TO TRAIN ME TO BECOME THE

>> HE TAKES HER ON AS A PROJECT

WHERE HE FEELS HE CAN TURN THIS

LOWLY STREET GIRL INTO A

>> MY DEAR, YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTE

NADIR OF PASSION, THE MOST

UNEXCITING THING GOD HAS EVER

CREATED, A SEXUAL CIVIL

SERVICE WORKER.

NOBODY NEEDS TO READ MY LAST

BOOK MORE OR DESERVES TO BE IN

MY NEXT BOOK LESS THAN YOU.

>> IT'S FASCINATING, BECAUSE

YOU'RE WATCHING THIS VERY

INSECURE CONSTANCE MONEY

GO FROM THIS VERY UNATTRACTIVE

WIG AND MAKEUP TO THE END, WHERE

SHE'S BASICALLY TAKING ONE OF

THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS MEN IN TOWN

AND PUTTING A STRAP ON

AND FUCKING HIM WITH IT.

>> I WENT UP TO SEE A FELLOW

BY THE NAME OF RADLEY METZGER,

WHO, UH, HIS NOM DE PORN

BECAME HENRY PARIS.

AND, UM, UH, INSTEAD OF BEING,

UH, ON THE FILM, HE'S A BIT OF A

SVENGALI, AND I WOUND UP BEING

IN THE FILM.

YOU DON'T THINK I'M GONNA LET

HIM MAKE THAT PERILOUS JOURNEY

ALONE?

IT WAS QUITE AN EXPERIENCE,

BECAUSE I WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH

WHAT BEHAVIOR AND PROTOCOL WAS

SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE, UH, ON AN

ADULT SET, SO IT WAS REALLY

BREAKING INTO SOMETHING THAT

BROKE ALL THE RULES.

>> ♪ WISH I HAD HER BESIDE ME ♪

>> IT'S FUNNY-- I WASN'T EVEN

AWARE-- IT WAS-- I WAS WATCHING

THE FILM, BUT I WAS ROOTING FOR

BOTH OF THEM TO BE TOGETHER

UNTIL THE ACT-- END MOMENT WHERE

SHE'S GIVING HIM A BLOW JOB,

AND HE'S DEGRADING HER AS IF

SHE'S NOT IN THE ROOM, UH,

PRETENDING THAT SHE'S NOT THERE,

AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS MOMENT

WHERE THEY-- THEY COME TOGETHER.

IT'S JUST-- IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

>> YOU KNOW WHY MOST PEOPLE

HAVE SEXUAL PROBLEMS?

THEY TALK TOO GODDAMN MUCH!

>> JAMIE IS A VERY SWEET PERSON

ON ONE HAND, AND ON THE OTHER

HAND, IS A VERY DISTURBED

INDIVIDUAL.

JAMIE HAD HIS DEMONS.

>> YOU INSTANTLY JUST ARE SO

ENGAGED BY HIM.

IN FACT, WHEN I STARTED WATCHING

THE-- THE OPENING IN "MISTY

BEETHOVEN," I WASN'T EVEN AWARE

THAT JAMIE GILLIS WAS A PORN

PERFORMER.

I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO NOT

HAVE ANY SEX IN THE MOVIE,

BECAUSE HE WAS SO GOOD.

YOU THINK TO YOURSELF, "HOW

COULD THIS GUY BE A PORN ACTOR?"

>> WORKING FOR RADLEY METZGER

WAS, UM-- I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

I-- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REALLY

SAY IT-- IT COMES BACK TO THAT

THING, "IF YOU CAN'T SAY

ANYTHING NICE..."

>> OKAY, LET'S GET YOU

UNDRESSED.

NO, NO, NO, YOU DON'T DO IT

YOURSELF.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW,

FOR ONE THING.

>> HE TOLD ME HE DIDN'T THINK

I COULD ACT, AND THAT'S WHY HE

PUT ME THROUGH EVERYTHING.

THAT WAS HIS JUSTIFICATION.

>> I THINK MEN STINK.

>> WELL, THEY THINK YOU STINK.

IN FACT, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST

PERFECTLY BALANCED EQUATIONS

IN NATURE.

>> I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT MOVIE

WAS MADE MORE WITH BLOOD AND

SWEAT THAN MONEY.

HE REALLY DID

MAKE A MASTERPIECE.

I'VE HEARD SO MANY PEOPLE QUOTE

LINES FROM IT THAT HE MUST HAVE

BEEN DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

>> IT HAS AN EXTREMELY STRONG

STORY WITH BEAUTIFUL IMAGERY.

>> AND, ALSO, I MEAN, LOOKING AT

IT ALL THESE YEARS LATER, IT WAS

ALSO-- I MEAN I LOOKED

PRETTY GOOD, TOO.

I THINK IT WAS ALSO THE FACT

THAT IT WAS MORE REALITY

THAN FANTASY.

>> THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON

WITHIN THAT MOVIE THAT REALLY

SAYS, "THIS IS AN ARTISTIC

>> EXCUSE ME. UH, PARDON ME.

DO YOU MIND IF I BLOW

YOUR WAITER?

>> NOT AT ALL.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ON EARTH

HAPPENED TO MINE.

>> BARBARA BROADCAST WAS A MOVIE

ABOUT A WOMAN WHO IS A SEX

WORKER WHO WROTE A BOOK.

IT'S TAKING PLACE AT A

RESTAURANT, AND PEOPLE ARE

GIVING BLOW JOBS AS IF

IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

NOBODY'S BATTING AN EYE,

NOBODY'S LOOKING AT IT

PEOPLE ARE HAVING SEX ON TABLES.

AND IT WAS WHAT I FEEL A TRUE

ADULT SHOULD-- FILM SHOULD BE,

WHERE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ZERO

JUDGMENT ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S

GOING ON AROUND THEM.

>> YES, WE'LL HAVE YOUR

RESERVATION IN ABOUT FIVE

MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF JOKES IN

"BARBARA BROADCAST."

ONE OF THEM IS WHEN THE

MAITRE 'D, UM, HE RECEIVES A

BLOW JOB EVERY TIME SOMEBODY

DROPS A PLATE OR MESSES UP.

AND IT'S JUST SO CAVALIER IN

THAT HE JUST UNBUTTONS

HIS PANTS, AND THEY GET

DOWN ON THEIR KNEES.

>> WELL, BOBBY ASTER I REMEMBER

VERY WELL, BECAUSE HE'S THE VERY

FIRST PERSON THAT I EVER WORKED

>> ANNETTE HAVEN'S A BEAUTIFUL

WOMAN, AND IT LENDS ITSELF TO

THIS IDEA THAT YOU CAN BE

A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN

AND BE A SEXUAL WOMAN.

>> MY BROTHER'S KIND OF SHY,

AND, WELL, HE'S A BIG, BIG FAN

OF YOURS.

WELL, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING HIM

AN AUTOGRAPH AND A LITTLE HEAD?

>> ANNETTE, UM, WAS JUST, UH,

JUST ONE OF THE MOST FLAWLESSLY

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN I HAD EVER SEEN,

LET ALONE I THINK IT WAS THE--

THE FIRST RED BUSH

THAT I HAD EVER SEEN.

SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK AND A

GREAT BUSINESSWOMAN,

AND, UH, NUTTIER THAN A

FRUITCAKE AS WELL.

>> IN "BARBARA BROADCAST,"

METZGER'S USING THESE VERY WIDE

SHOTS WHERE YOU'RE SEEING SEXUAL

ACTIVITY HAPPENING WHILE THERE

IS DIALOGUE HAPPENING BETWEEN

THE MAIN CHARACTERS.

THERE ALSO WAS ANOTHER JOKE IN

"BARBARA BROADCAST" THAT I LOVED

WHERE I BELIEVE IT WAS THEY

ORDERED UP A NUMBER 17, WHICH,

BASICALLY, WAS A MAN CAME ON

A SALAD.

>> HE DOES A WONDERFUL

CAFE AU LAIT.

>> IT'S CINEMATICALLY BEAUTIFUL,

THE LOCATIONS, I MEAN, SHOOTING

AT, UH, A RESTAURANT.

I MEAN, THE KITCHEN SCENE WITH

C.J. LAING WITH ALL THE STEAM

AND THE POTS AND THE PANS AND

THE THIS AND THE THAT AND...

>> THEY TOOK A SCENE FROM "MISTY

BEETHOVEN," I UNDERSTAND, AS A

FILLER FOR THE GIGANTIC CLIM--

CLIMAX OF THE FILM.

>> SO WE HAVE THIS LITTLE PET

WORKING FOR US, AND TO SET HER

STRAIGHT, WE LET CURLY AT HER,

TO ACT OUT ONE OF HIS FANTASIES.

JIMMY WASN'T VERY NICE TO ME

WHEN HE FIRST MET ME.

THE MAKEUP LADY,

SHE KEPT PUTTING MORE HAIRPIECES

IN MY HAIR, MORE AND MORE

HAIRPIECES. SHE SAID, "WELL,

I DON'T WANT HER BRAINS TO SPILL

AND JAMIE SAID, "WELL, IF IT'S

GONNA BE REALISTIC-- IF THEY'RE

GONNA COME OUT, THEY'RE GONNA

COME OUT.

STOP PUTTING THOSE HAIRPIECES

IN HER HAIR."

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS

GOING ON.

>> JAMIE WOULD CALL ME WHENEVER

HE WAS IN KIND OF ONE BIND OR

ANOTHER.

HE SAYS, "MITCH, YOU'VE

GOTTA COME HERE RIGHT AWAY.

YOU'VE GOTTA COME RIGHT-- RIGHT

AWAY," AND I HEAR THIS, LIKE,

WATER SOUND, LIKE,

THIS FLUSHING SOUND.

HE'S LIKE, "HURRY, HURRY."

SO I THREW SOMETHING ON,

AND I JUMPED IN A CAB.

I GET THERE, AND JAMIE WAS

FUCKING C.J. FROM BEHIND,

BUT HAD HER HEAD IMMERSED

IN THE TOILET BOWL, AND SHE HAD

A NECKLACE ON, AND THE CATCH GOT

CAUGHT, AND SO HE HAD TO KEEP

FLUSHING THE TOILET IN ORDER FOR

HER TO GET AIR.

AND I GOT THE CATCH FROM

UNDERNEATH HER NECK, AND, UH,

SHE COMES UP FOR AIR AND SAYS,

>> I'LL GIVE YOU $10 IF YOU LET

ME LOOK AT YOUR TITS.

>> MR. GREENFIELD!

>> PLEASE, PLEASE, I JUST WANNA

LOOK AT YOUR PRETTY LITTLE TITS.

>> YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL

GOOD GIRLS.

>> THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME--

I'D WORKED FOR HIM QUITE A FEW

TIMES-- I HELPED CAST

SOME PEOPLE IN THAT FILM.

I ALSO, UM, FOUND A WAY TO GET

ACCESS TO BROOKLYN COLLEGE.

AND WE KINDA KNEW WHEN THE

FACILITIES WERE OPEN.

WE-- IT WAS LIKE "DO WHAT YOU

CAN WHEN YOU CAN."

WE JUST LUCKED OUT.

WE DIDN'T GET CAUGHT DOING

ANYTHING.

>> I DON'T THINK I WAS EVER

ON SET WHEN BAMBI WOODS WAS

ON SET.

MAYBE I MET HER ONE TIME.

SHE WAS, FOR THAT TIME,

INCREDIBLY HOT-LOOKING.

>> DEBBIE, WHAT ARE YOU

GONNA DO?

>> RAISE THE MONEY FAST.

>> WHEN DO YOU HAVE TO

LEAVE, DEBBIE?

>> IN TWO WEEKS.

>> BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME

TO RAISE THE FARE.

>> THE WORST THING ABOUT

"DEBBIE DOES DALLAS" IS

R. BOLLA'S THE ONLY GUY THAT

GETS TO FUCK HER.

YOU WANNA FUCK THAT GIRL.

I MEAN, IT'S A COMPLETE TEASE.

IT'S A-- IT'S A COCK-TEASING

FILM, AND IT WORKED

ON THAT LEVEL.

>> SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT...

>> OH!

>> (WHISTLE BLOWS)

>> THE DALLAS COWBOYS STARTED

THE WHOLE CHEERLEADER CRAZE,

AND IT REALLY WENT VIRAL.

IF YOU COULD USE THAT WORD

BACK THEN. AND SOMEBODY WAS

SMART ENOUGH TO CAPITALIZE ON

THAT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA

IT WOULD BLOW UP LIKE IT DID.

>> NO, MOM. YOU KNOW

I'M GONNA STAY WITH YOU.

>> OH, DARLING, I'M SO GLAD.

KIRDY STEVENS.

WE MET-- WE MET AT A RESTAURANT

IN, UM, WEST L.A., AND HE TOLD

ME IT WAS ABOUT INCEST, AND I

SAID, "NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT."

>> I LOVED "TABOO" AS A MOVIE.

IN FACT, THE ENDING WAS SO

DISTURBING AND BOTHERSOME TO ME

THAT SHE DIDN'T END UP WITH HER

SON, IT MADE ME QUESTION MY OWN

>> HE PERSISTED, AND THEN, UM,

AGAIN, I-- I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE

THIS AS MY HIGHER SELF JUMPED IN

AND SAID, "DO IT."

BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO

DO IT.

YOU-- IF YOU DO IT, YOU CAN

BRING CONSCIOUSNESS AND QUALITY

TO IT, SO DO IT.

>> WE ARE CENSORING OURSELVES

FROM DOING THINGS THAT ARE AS

FREE AND AS OPEN AS THEY WERE

35 YEARS AGO.

I MEAN THEY WERE MORE FREE

35 YEARS AGO.

>> I HATED THE SCRIPT THE FIRST

TIME I READ IT.

IT WAS-- IT WAS REALLY

DIFFICULT TO, UM-- TO READ ABOUT

INCEST IN SUCH A SORT OF

FLIPPANT, UM, MANNER.

BUT IT WAS SO WRONG.

>> LOOK, MA, I DON'T THINK ANY

LESS OF EITHER ONE OF US.

IT HAPPENED,

AND I GOTTA TELL YA,

I WANT IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> DON'T-- DON'T... NO, PAUL,

DON'T. THE WORLD HAS

A DIRTY WORD FOR THIS.

>> THERE'S THESE-- THESE MOMENTS

THAT KIND OF MAKE YOU SAY,

"WHOA!" THESE JARRING MOMENTS,

LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN KAY

PARKER IS IN THE KITCHEN, AND

HER BREAST IS HANGING OUT OF HER

SHIRT, AND SHE'S STANDING THERE

WITH HER SON, AND IT'S ALMOST AS

IF THERE'S NO COVERING UP,

AND IT-- IT'S JUST, AGAIN,

SEX IS OUT THERE.

>> I MEAN I'M NOT EXACTLY

OVER-THE-HILL, YOU KNOW.

>> YOU'RE TELLING ME.

>> YOU SEE IT A LOT WITH KAY

PARKER'S FRIEND IN THE MOVIE,

WHO IS HAVING ORGIES AND-- AND

DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH--

SHE THINKS IT'S HOT IMAGINING

THAT HER SON WOULD BE

HAVING SEX WITH HER.

SHE REFERENCES THAT KAY PARKER

IS, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN KIND OF

ASSAULTED BY HER BOSS.

AND SHE'S ON THE PHONE WITH HER

FRIEND, AND THE FRIEND SAYS...

>> WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE?

IS JERRY RAPING YOU?

>> CUT THAT OUT,

YOU SON-OF- A-BITCH!

>> WHAT'S HE DOING?

DOES HE HAVE HIS COCK OUT?

>> BUT IT-- IT-- IT LENDS ITSELF

TO THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S LOTS

OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT PEOPLE

FIND SEXUALLY AROUSING, EVEN IF

IT IS NEC-- EVEN IF IT IS

FORBIDDEN.

>> WHENEVER I THINK ABOUT THE--

THE SCENE, THE SEDUCTION SCENE

WITH MIKE RANGER IN "TABOO,"

I-- I GET GOOSEFLESH--

I'M GETTING RIGHT NOW, AS I--

AS I GET READY TO TALK ABOUT IT,

BECAUSE I DO REFER TO IT AS A

VERY, UM, SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE.

>> SHE'S JUST LEFT THIS ORGY

PARTY THAT SHE FELT EXTREMELY

UNCOMFORTABLE AND DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN, AND SHE JUST

FINDS IT WITHIN HERSELF THAT

SHE MUST HAVE SEX,

AND HE'S SAFE FOR HER.

HE IS SAFE.

>> (GROANING)

>> I LOST MYSELF IN THAT SCENE.

I WAS NOT THERE.

I SURRENDERED, IF YOU WILL, TO

THE PART, AND THE PART, OR THE

ROLE, THE MOTHER, JUST TOOK ME,

UM, ON THIS TRIP.

>> IT WAS ALMOST LIKE, YES, THIS

IS THE NATURAL THING THAT SHOULD

HAPPEN BETWEEN MY MOTHER AND I.

THAT'S--

>> (INTERVIEWER) I'M APPALLED.

>> THERE'S NOTHING WRONGER

>> WHAT'LL IT BE, GENTS?

>> OH, THE MASTER WILL HAVE

A BEER, ANYTHING IMPORTED.

>> BOTTLE OF BUFFALO PISS,

PLEASE.

>> THE AMERO BROTHERS MADE A BIG

BUDGET COMEDY. WE JUST HAD A LOT

OF FUN. I SWEAR, THE BURNING OF

ATLANTA SCENE OR WHATEVER WAS

THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER

>> NOW, REMEMBER, PAY NO

ATTENTION TO ME WHEN I'M TALKING

TO YOU, JUST DO WHAT I SAY.

THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE LITTLE

SCENE I'D LIKE TO GET DONE

QUICKLY, BECAUSE WE ARE SHOOTING

THE BOMBING OF ATLANTA

THIS AFTERNOON.

>> (ALL SCREAMING)

>> IT WAS FUNNY AND QUIRKY.

IT WAS-- IT WAS VERY HORNY,

IT HAD SO MANY SEX SCENES.

I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.

>> I DID IT IN A BOAT ONCE,

AND I HAD TO DO ALL THE ROWING.

>> R. BOLLA AND I ARE IN

WYOMING, WHERE WE MEET

THE CANE SISTERS.

I DECIDE TO TAKE THEM TO

NEW YORK WITH US, AND-- AND SHE

SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, "WHAT,

YOU GOT AN AIRPLANE?"

>> ANYWAY, I'M TO BE QUEEN

OF THE FAIRIES, AND I'VE GOT

THIS TERRIFIC GOWN RIGGED UP.

>> A GOWN?

ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE

TRANSYLVANIANS?

>> SUSIE MANDELL WAS THE-- MY

FAVORITE OF THE TWO CHARACTERS.

>> CANDY, WHAT'S A FILM LOOP?

>> YOU'VE GOT ME.

>> THEY'RE LOOKING FOR 46 GIRLS

AND A MONKEY.

>> IT WAS REALLY A TRIBUTE TO

THE, UH, MGM MOVIES,

ONLY WITH HARDCORE SEX.

>> FUCK.

>> THE RAPE SCENE WHERE THE

YANKEES CAME IN AND, LIKE,

BANGED ALL THE CHICKS.

>> I WANT A CUM SHOT, OR NONE OF

YOU FAGGOTS GET PAID!

>> "BLONDE AMBITION" WAS PLAYING

IN NEW YORK-- THE R-RATED

VERSION AT ONE THEATER,

AND THE X-RATED VERSION AT

>> IT'S SANDY, AM I RIGHT?

OH, BUT THERE IS AN AMAZING

RESEMBLANCE.

BUT NOW THAT I LOOK AT YOU,

>> WELL, IS MY SISTER HERE

OR NOT?

>> "NEON NIGHTS" HAD A VERY

VERONICA HART PLAYED A MADAME,

AND I WAS KIND OF HER BOY-TOY,

>> I'M GONNA MAKE YOU SWEAT,

BABY.

YOU'RE MY PRIVATE FUCKING

>> THE FILM WAS ACTUALLY

KIND OF FUCKED UP.

UM, THE DAUGHTER IS LISTENING TO

HER MOM AND HER MOM'S BOYFRIEND

AND THEN SHE STARTS

MASTURBATING WITH A HAIRBRUSH.

AND THEN SHE'S IN THE BATHROOM,

AND HE COMES IN,

AND HE'S TELLING HER TO SHUSH

AND TURN AROUND, AND HE'S

GRABBING ON HER

AND TOUCHING HER.

>> NO.

>> TURN AROUND, COME ON.

TURN AROUND, BABY.

THAT'S A GIRL.

THAT'S A GOOD GIRL.

>> WHEN JAKE TEAGUE MAKES

LYSA THATCHER ELEVATE, THEY DID

IT VERY WELL, LIKE, HE WAS

PUTTING HIS ARMS UNDERNEATH HER

BUTT AND OVER HER BOOBS AND

OVER HER VAGINA AND, LIKE, DOING

THE WHOLE CREEPY THING, AND THEN

I LOVE HOW HE GOT IN HER MIND.

HE WAS HAVING SEX WITH ANOTHER

WOMAN WHILE HE WAS INSIDE OF HER

MIND, AND SHE WAS FEELING

EVERYTHING THAT HIM AND THE

OTHER WOMAN WERE DOING.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY

INTERESTING.

>> SO VERONICA, BACK HOME,

IS TAKING A SHOWER, AND A LA

HITCHCOCK IN "PSYCHO," UH, I

ENTER-- BUT I HAD SOME FLOWERS--

AND I PULL BACK THE CURTAIN,

AND SHE SCREAMS.

>> (SCREAMING)

♪♪ (STRINGS SHRIEKING)

>> GOTCHA!

OH, MAN, WERE YOU EVER GOIN'!

>> NO!

>> PEEING IN YOUR PANTS,

YOU WERE SO SCARED.

>> YOU FUCK!

>> SHE'S ALL PISSED OFF AT THAT,

AND THEN WE GO OFF IN THE

BEDROOM AND MAKE REALLY FRANTIC

AND HARD, HARD SEX.

>> I THOUGHT HE DID VERY WELL AT

KEEPING THE PLOT TOGETHER AND

MAKING IT AN INTERESTING MOVIE

THAT IS, NOT ONLY RISKY AND

DIFFERENT AND VERY INTERESTING

WITH THE MAGICIAN AND HER

HITCH-HIKING AND BEING IN LOVE

WITH HER MOTHER'S BOYFRIEND,

>> I WANNA GIVE IT A TRY.

I DON'T WANNA LOOK BACK

WITH REGRETS.

YOU KNOW, IF ONLY I'D GONE

TO NEW YORK, I COULD'VE BEEN

>> THE PLOT OF "ROOMMATES" IS

SHE HAPPENS TO BE A HOOKER,

AND SHE DECIDES TO GET OUT

OF THE BUSINESS.

AND HER APARTMENT'S TOO BIG

FOR HER, SO SHE CONSIGNS

TWO ROOMMATES TO COME

>> WELL, THERE YOU HAVE IT--

>> ONE WAS, UH, A BEAUTIFUL,

GORGEOUS MODEL, WHO,

UNFORTUNATELY, SEEMED TO HAVE

A DRUG PROBLEM AND GET IN

AND I PLAYED A COLLEGE STUDENT

WHO, ACTUALLY, I THINK,

RAN AWAY FROM COLLEGE.

I WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH MY

COLLEGE PROFESSOR, AND IT

FINALLY DAWNED ON ME THAT

HE DIDN'T LOVE ME AT ALL.

>> MY CHARACTER HAD SOME BAD

PEOPLE IN HER LIFE, AND, UH,

STUFF HAPPENS BECAUSE I RUN

RAMPANT, AND I KIND OF

LEARN MY LESSON.

WHERE AM I?

>> YOU'RE IN QUEENS. WHERE THE

FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

>> THE FAMOUS RAPE SCENE

FROM "ROOMMATES."

SO MUCH OF IT WAS INFERRED.

THE BACKS OF THE ACTORS WERE TO

THE CAMERA.

I WAS LAYING ON THE FLOOR.

>> RUB SOME ON HER FACE, SAL,

RUB IT IN.

MAKE HER EAT IT.

>> AGAIN, YOU HEAR THE SOUNDS,

YOU HEAR THEIR VOICES, YOU CAN

ONLY IMAGINE THE WORST POSSIBLE

THING IS HAPPENING TO ME.

JAMIE GILLIS COMES BURSTING IN,

STARTS KNOCKING THE GUYS ASIDE,

AND THEN JAMIE STARTS DOING

JAMIE GILLIS.

>> DID THEY HURT YOU?

>> NO.

>> LET ME SEE IF THEY HURT YOU.

THEY STUCK THE BOTTLE--

DID THEY HURT YOU WITH--

DID THEY HURT YOU WITH THE

BOTTLE WHEN THEY-- WHEN THEY

SHOVED IT IN?

>> HE'S NOT THERE TO HELP ME,

HE'S THERE TO JERK OFF ON ME,

YOU KNOW?

SICK, TWISTED JAMIE GILLIS.

>> HE WASN'T INTERESTED IN

DEGRADING ANYBODY, YOU KNOW?

CHUCK'S IDEA OF A GREAT TIME

WAS TO-- TO HAVE FUN.

>> (LAUGHING)

COME ON, YOU GUYS ARE ANIMALS.

TAKE A BREAK ALREADY.

IT DIDN'T FIT INTO ANY CATEGORY.

SO CHUCK REALLY WENT OUT

ON A LIMB TO MAKE THIS.

IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MOVIES

WHERE EVERYBODY WASN'T RUNNING

AROUND, GOING "FUCK ME, FUCK ME,

FUCK ME."

>> IN THE END OF THE 1970s,

THEATRICAL PORN FILMS

BEGIN TO STRUGGLE.

OBSCENITY PROSECUTIONS ROSE,

ZONING LAWS HAD FORCED ADULT

THEATERS INTO THE WORST

NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE PORN CHIC

THAT FUELED TICKET SALES

DIED OUT.

BUT THERE WAS A NEW FRONTIER

OPENING FOR ADULT MOVIE

PRODUCERS-- THE VCR WAS ABOUT

TO REDEFINE THE PORN INDUSTRY

>> WHEN DID PEOPLE START

TO BUY VHS's?

WHEN WAS THAT STARTING TO BE

THE NORM VERSUS, UH,

GOING TO THE THEATER?

>> IN THE MID-'70s, THE MACHINES

CAME OUT, AND PEOPLE THOUGHT

THIS WAS THE GREATEST INVENTION

AND THEY HAD TO HAVE ONE--

YOU HAD TO GO OUT.

BUT, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY WERE

EXPENSIVE. THEY WERE

$1,000 A MACHINE.

AND THE MOVIES THEMSELVES

WERE $95.

THEY WOULD HAVE PARTIES, THOUGH.

THEY WOULD GO IN AND CHIP IN

>> THERE WAS MORE WORK THAN--

THAN GIRLS IN THE BUSINESS.

LIKE, THERE WERE, LIKE, 12 OF US

REALLY IN THE BUSINESS,

IT SEEMED, AND I THINK WE ALL

I MEAN, IT WAS JUST-- THE--

THE PRODUCERS COULDN'T GET

ENOUGH GIRLS.

>> SO WHAT WAS IT LIKE

SHOOTING-- WHAT WAS A DAY ONSET

LIKE BACK THEN?

>> UM, LET'S SEE, THERE WAS

USUALLY A SCRIPT, LIKE, A

20-PAGE SCRIPT, WHICH ALWAYS

IRRITATED ME, 'CAUSE I WAS NOT

GOOD AT MEMORIZING THINGS.

IT WAS ALWAYS SHOT AT, LIKE,

A REALLY NICE HOUSE,

THE LOCATION-- NOT ALWAYS, BUT

FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS, YOU

KNOW, SHOT IN REALLY NICE HOUSES

UP IN PORN VALLEY SOMEWHERE.

THEY ALWAYS HAD CATERING,

HAIR, AND MAKEUP.

I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE-- IN A WEIRD

WAY, IT WAS KINDA LIKE BEING ON

A REAL MOVIE SET, ONLY WE WERE

NAKED HAVING SEX.

>> YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE

PLAYBACK AT-- ON THE SET.

IT WAS LIKE A WHOLE NEW WORLD.

BUT THE VIDEO QUALITY IN THOSE

DAYS WAS NOT THE BEST.

BUT EVERYBODY WANTED TO DO IT

BECAUSE IT WAS CHEAP,

IT WAS QUICK, IT WAS PAINLESS.

>> SO, AS A PERFORMER, WHAT...

DID THE CONSUMERS

SORT OF EXPECT FROM YOU?

LIKE, WERE YOU GUYS SHOOTING

A LOT OF CRAZY SEX ACTS?

>> NUDITY. NO.

>> OR DID THEY WANT YOU TO BE

A GOOD ACTRESS? DID THEY CARE?

DID THEY JUST WANNA SEE YOUR--

>> I THINK, IN 1984, THEY WERE

JUST HAPPY THAT THEY COULD WATCH

A FILM IN THEIR HOUSE OF A NAKED

GIRL SUCKING A GUY'S DICK.

LIKE, THERE WAS DEFINITELY NO

CRAZY SEX ACTS LIKE THERE ARE--

I MEAN, IT WAS KINDA LIKE, YOU

KNOW, THE TYPICAL THREE

POSITIONS, HEAD, HIM EATING ME

OUT, BUT IT WASN'T CRAZY SEX.

I REALLY THINK, BACK IN '84,

PEOPLE WERE JUST SO HAPPY THAT

THEY COULD WATCH PEOPLE HAVE SEX

>> GOOD EVENING, MUTANTS

AND MUTETTES, AND WELCOME TO

>> THE STORYLINE IS THERE'S BEEN

THING AND, IN THE WAKE OF THAT,

STILL STAND THE TOUCH OF ANOTHER

HUMAN BEING, AND THE REST OF

THEM CAN'T.

>> TRUST ME, FOLKS, I KNOW WHAT

YOU WANT, AND I KNOW WHAT IT

FEELS LIKE WHEN YOU DON'T

GET IT.

NEED IS MY FIX, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN.

>> AND SO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN

TOUCH OTHER PEOPLE AND,

THEREFORE, HAVE SEX ARE FORCED

TO STAGE THESE LIVE SEX SHOWS

FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T HAVE

SEX LIKE THAT.

IT'S, LIKE, WEIRD AND

EXPERIMENTAL, BUT THEN IT'S GOT

THIS VERY OBVIOUS METAPHOR

ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY AND ITS PLACE

IN THE WORLD.

>> LEAVING SO SOON, FRIEND?

FEELING A LITTLE QUEASY?

>> LIVE THEATER, ON THE OTHER

HAND, AND THE HISTORY OF LIVE

THEATER, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF

WHERE "CAFE FLESH'S" REFERENCES

PROBABLY CAME FROM.

>> "CAFE FLESH" STANDS THE TEST

OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S A PORNO

ABOUT PORNO.

IT, IT VERY MUCH IS WHAT IT IS,

AND THERE'S SOMETHING SO

WONDERFULLY HONEST ABOUT IT.

BUT THEN IT'S GOT ALL OF THE

OTHER LAYERS, SO IT REMAINS

INTERESTING.

I MEAN, YOU WATCH IT SIX OR

SEVEN TIMES, YOU'RE STILL GONNA

>> DOES IT EVER BOTHER YOU

FUCKING YOUR BEST FRIEND'S

WIFE?

>> (CHUCKLING) YOU'RE IN

>> "SCOUNDRELS" WAS THE FIRST

FILM TO WIN A BEST PICTURE AWARD

AND HOWARD SAID TO ME, CECIL

HOWARD, "YOU'RE NOT GONNA CRACK

ONE JOKE IN THIS.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE-- NO MUGGING

TO THE CAMERA.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE A HAM."

>> RON JEREMY SCARED ME AT THAT

TIME, UM...

IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY ODD

BECAUSE, BEFORE I HAD MET

RON JEREMY, I HADN'T HEARD

ANYTHING ABOUT HIM, UM, BUT HIS

HEADSHOT TO ME LOOKED LIKE

>> HOWARD WAS A TOUGH GUY.

CECIL HOWARD WAS TOUGH.

HE WANTED THINGS HIS WAY.

BUT I RESPECT THAT.

>> I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH

CECIL HOWARD, AND HE WAS ONE OF

MY FAVORITE DIRECTORS,

AND I WORKED FOR HIM

>> EVERYTHING IN THE MOVIE IS

VERY DARK LIT AND VERY DARK

IN GENERAL.

THE DRAMA OF THE MOVIE, I THINK,

>> AH, I'M GONNA CHANGE.

>> THAT'LL BE THE DAY.

>> IT'S A FASCINATING

PSYCHODRAMA.

THROUGHOUT THE MOVIE,

I'M IN CLOWN WHITE

TALKING ABOUT MY LIFE.

>> I'VE BEEN GOOD.

I'VE BEEN REAL GOOD.

FUCK IT, NOBODY TELLS THE TRUTH

ALL THE TIME.

>> EVERYBODY'S FUCKING EVERYBODY

IN THIS MOVIE, BUT IT'S NOT A

HAPPY-GO-LUCKY THING, YOU KNOW.

THE DOCTOR IS CHEATING ON HIS,

UM, HIS WIFE WITH HIS SECRETARY.

AND, YOU KNOW, HIS SECRETARY'S

CHEATING ON HIM WITH HIS BEST

FRIEND WHO, I BELIEVE, HIS WIFE

IS ALSO SLEEPING WITH.

(SIGHING)

AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS TEENAGE

DAUGHTER WHO FEELS INVISIBLE.

>> MY PERFECT PARENTS.

THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING

ABOUT ME.

WHAT DO I LIKE?

I LIKE MAKING LOVE.

>> SO SHE'S TAKING IT OUT

BY BECOMING A WHORE

AND HAVING ALL THE SEX

IN THE WORLD THAT SHE CAN.

>> SHE'S THE GIRL AT THE CANDY

STORE ON THE CORNER.

THAT'S WHY I GET TO SEE HER

EVERY DAY, AND THEN FINALLY,

I JUST TELL HER TO HOP IN.

SHE GETS IN MY CAR, AND WE'RE

GONNA ESCAPE AND RUN AWAY.

>> MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME

I SHOULD MARRY A DOCTOR.

(HORN HONKING)

(SCREAMING)

>> WE CRASH MY CAR AND DIE.

WHICH IS CERTAINLY A STATEMENT

AGAINST INFIDELITY, YOU KNOW?

>> EVERYBODY HAS A DARK SIDE,

AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO HIDE

NO MATTER HOW PRETTY

YOUR SURROUNDINGS ARE.

AND THIS MOVIE REALLY DIGS INTO

EVERYBODY'S SEXUALLY DEVIANT

DARK SIDE.

>> NO ONE FILMS LIKE

THAT ANYMORE.

CECIL HOWARD, CHUCK VINCENT,

RADLEY METZGER, HENRI PACHARD,

ANTHONY SPINELLI ON THE WEST

COAST, THESE GUYS MADE FILMS

WHICH HAD SEX IN IT.

>> BY THE WAY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

>> ELIZABETH.

>> THAT'S A NICE NAME.

>> SPINELLI, HIS NAME WAS SAM,

HE WAS THE BACKBONE

HE WAS MORE THAN, UH,

A TALENTED DIRECTOR.

HE WAS MAKING THE BEST MOVIES.

AND HE BECAME A FRIEND

AND A MENTOR.

>> ANTHONY SPINELLI...

>> WHO IS...

>> HE WAS MY-- HE'S A DIRECTOR.

HE'S MY DAD.

IT WAS A GREAT TEAM.

HE WOULD USUALLY SAY,

"I HAVE AN IDEA."

AND I'D GO, AND I'D WRITE THE

ROUGH DRAFT, AND WE, UH,

SHOWED IT TO HIM, AND WE--

GREAT COLLABORATION,

>> THE PLOT OF "NOTHING TO HIDE"

REALLY REMINDED ME OF

"OF MICE AND MEN."

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S

REALLY DIFFERENT

FOR A PORN MOVIE.

HOW TO BE A MAN.

AND "LOVE'S FOR SUCKERS,"

HE'S TEACHING ME.

AND I FALL IN LOVE,

AND I WANNA MARRY.

>> HAVE YOU EVER LOVED SOMEBODY?

>> NO.

>> HAVE YOU EVER WANTED

TO LOVE SOMEBODY?

>> NO.

>> I THINK THAT THERE IS PARTS

OF THIS MOVIE THAT YOU CAN

JERK-OFF TO.

>> SLOW AND DEEP.

>> AS LONG AS YOU'RE INTO

JOHN LESLIE.

ONE OF THE SCENES IN THERE

HAS SOMETHING FOR MOST PEOPLE TO

JERK OFF TO.

>> OH, JACK!

>> I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN JERK OFF

TO THE RICHARD PACHECO SCENE.

>> NONE OF THE WOMEN THAT HAD

COME BY FIT WHAT SAM WANTED TO

COME OUT OF THAT CHARACTER.

>> AH!

WHY DON'T YOU WATCH WHERE

YOU'RE GOING?!

>> SHE WAS PERFECT.

>> THE SEX SCENE BETWEEN RICHARD

AND CHELSEA WAS MY FAVORITE.

IT WAS SO REAL.

>> I SORT OF GOT MY--

SOME SPITTLE ON MY FINGER AND

PLAYED WITH HER NIPPLE AND...

"NO, NO, NO,

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

LENNY WOULD NEVER DO THAT!"

>> SEE?

>> OH, IS THAT A RUBBER?

>> HOW'D YOU KNOW?

>> I SAW ONE IN

MY BROTHER'S DRAWER.

>> I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT IN

A PORN MOVIE BEFORE WHERE THEY

ACTUALLY STOP THE SEX TO PUT ON

A CONDOM, AND THEY TALK ABOUT

PUTTING ON THE CONDOM AND HOW

SHE'S NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE,

AND IT JUST-- IT WAS SO,

SO REAL. I LOVED IT.

>> THERE'S A GREAT AWKWARDNESS

AND PLAYFULNESS ABOUT WINNING

THIS, ABOUT PUTTING ON THE

CONDOM 'CAUSE IT'S PLAYED,

PLAYED REALISTICALLY.

SPINELLI PLAYED THE OWNER

OF A HOT DOG STAND.

>> YOU DON'T FOOL ME.

YOU DON'T WANNA STOP BEING

A MOTHER AND A FATHER, RIGHT?

>> HE AND JOHN HAVE A LONG SCENE

WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

"YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS

IS WHAT IT IS."

YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THE KID.

WHEN AVN DID THEIR FIRST AWARDS,

THEY GAVE ME BEST ACTOR FOR

"IRRESISTIBLE", AND THEY ALSO

GAVE ME BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

FOR "NOTHING TO HIDE."

THAT PROBABLY WAS THE

>> FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, I'VE BEEN

WRITING STORIES, NOT FOR

PUBLICATION BUT FOR A VERY

CURIOUS MAN,

A PRIVATE CLITEROTICA.

>> JANINE AND I BECAME BEST

FRIENDS WHEN WE WERE

18 AND 19 YEARS OLD.

AND I DON'T THINK EITHER OF US

REALLY KNEW WHAT TO BE

TOTALLY PREPARED FOR.

I THINK SHE'D DONE SOME...

SHE'D BEEN A "PENTHOUSE" PET SO

SHE'D DONE SOME "PENTHOUSE"

VIDEOS, BUT NOT EXACTLY THE

HARDCORE WE WERE ABOUT READY

TO GET INVOLVED IN.

>> WORKING WITH ANDREW BLAKE,

HE'S, UM... HE'S VERY

UNDERSTATED, YOU KNOW, QUIET

GUY, BUT HIS WHEELS ARE ALWAYS

>> ANDREW BLAKE IS THE

QUINTESSENTIAL ARTIST.

I MEAN, HE'S QUIRKY.

HE'S INTERESTING.

SOMEWHAT INTROVERTED.

BIT OF A RECLUSE, UH, EXCEPT FOR

WHEN HE'S FILMING, AND I THINK

THAT'S KIND OF WHEN IT ALL

>> I HIRED THIS GUY TO MAKE

THESE-- HE MADE, LIKE,

>> AND BOY, AT THE BEGINNING,

THERE'S SOME MIGHTY HEFTY ONES.

THEY WERE QUITE BIG.

>> AND WHEN HE ARRIVED ON THE

SET, HE WAS BLOODY, AND HE HAD

CUT HIMSELF, AND HE NEEDED TO GO

TO THE HOSPITAL.

AND HE DROPPED OFF THE DILDOS,

AND, YOU KNOW, I NEVER HEARD

FROM HIM AGAIN.

(CHUCKLING)

>> AND, OF COURSE, BY THE TIME

WE WERE DONE,

WE WERE COMPLETELY NUMB.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT

THE ADULT INDUSTRY.

AT THAT TIME OF MAKING "HIDDEN

OBSESSIONS," I HAD NEVER

HEARD OF VIVID.

I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE

BIG-BUDGET CONTRACT GIRLS

AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

>> I MEAN, BASICALLY, I'M ONE TO

FLY UNDER THE RADAR.

THAT WAS THE WRONG FIRST SCENE

TO EVER DO.

>> I'M THE LAST MAN STANDING,

UH, STILL SHOOTING FILM.

WHEN I'M 80, AND I'M STILL

SHOOTING SOME 19-YEAR-OLD GIRL,

AND I WANNA KEEL OVER, AND MY

BOLEX GOES INTO HER PUSSY.

THAT'S WHAT I ENVISION FOR

>> WELL, I GUESS THESE ARE FOR

IF YOU'RE LONELY AT NIGHT AND,

UH, NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO.

>> YEAH.

>> I TOOK THE IDEA OF "JUSTINE"

FROM A FRENCH FILM BY, UM,

A DIRECTOR NAMED LOUIS MALLE.

IT'S ABOUT A FATHER WHO

FALLS FOR HIS SON'S GIRLFRIEND.

>> I SAID, I'VE SEEN IT.

AND HE SAID, "WHAT'D YOU THINK?"

AND I SAID, "I HATED IT."

HE SAID, "YOU HATED IT, WHY?"

I SAID, "BECAUSE OF THE MORALITY

THAT THIS MAN WOULD DESTROY HIS

SON AND HIS WIFE FOR THE SAKE OF

>> IT WAS AN EVENT OF MY...

SORT OF... HAVING A SON WHO'S IN

SOME WAYS MORE GROWN-UP THAN ME.

HE'S TELLING ME, YOU KNOW,

>> WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME WHAT

YOU'RE THINKING.

>> I'M THINKING ABOUT MY FATHER.

>> YOUR FATHER?

>> IN "DAMAGE", UH, JEREMY IRONS

IS THE FATHER.

HE KNEW THAT THIS WAS HIS SON'S

GIRLFRIEND.

HE DIDN'T CARE.

>> BUT IN OUR MOVIE,

THE FATHER WOULD NOT DESTROY

HIS SON.

HE WOULD GIVE UP THE GIRL

BECAUSE HIS SON IS HIS SON.

>> MMM.

WOULD YOU LIKE A TASTE?

>> I LIKE OUR VERSION BETTER.

>> ROXANNE BLAZE HAD A SERIES OF

ENDLESS ORGASMS FROM A WATER

HOSE I WAS SPRAYING HER WITH.

AND THAT WAS VERY REAL,

IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.

>> SHE'S ONE OF HIS GIRLS,

HE WOULD LOOK AND-- AND SAY,

"WHAT'S A NICE GIRL LIKE YOU

DOING IN A PLACE LIKE THIS?"

WHY'D YOU COME BACK, HMM?

>> BECAUSE I SHOULDN'T HAVE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE DANGEROUS FOR ME.

>> WE REALLY FELT

WHAT WE WERE DOING--

YOU KNOW, WE KNEW IT WAS

ONLY PORN.

BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE IT THE

BEST PORN WE COULD POSSIBLY

MAKE IT.

>> "JUSTINE" DOES QUALIFY AS ONE

OF THE BETTER MOVIES MADE, UH,

UH, BOTH IN THE HISTORY OF PORN,

BUT IN MY PERSONAL HISTORY

WORKING.

IT WOULD BE IN MY TOP TEN

>> MY CRIME WAS TO SHARE THESE

VISIONS WITH YOU.

THE TRUTH.

AND FOR THIS, I HAVE BEEN

>> "LATEX" WAS VERY INEXPENSIVE

BUT THEN THERE WAS ABOUT

12 MONTHS OF POST MAKING ALL OF

THIS STUFF, SO THAT MIGHT'VE

THIS IS A WHOLE MOVIE FULL OF

COMPUTER-GENERATED EFFECTS.

THIS WAS SO FAR BEFORE ANYBODY

EVER THOUGHT TO DO ANYTHING LIKE

THAT FOR PORNO, YOU KNOW?

EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON

A MICHAEL NINN FEATURE KNEW THEY

WERE IN FOR A RIDE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE

NOT GONNA WALK IN AND BE OUT OF

THERE IN AN HOUR.

UH, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, IT

MIGHT TAKE YOU A COUPLE OF HOURS

JUST TO GET YOUR MAKEUP ON.

HE SAYS THAT YOU CLAIMED TO BE

ABLE TO "SEE INSIDE OF PEOPLE."

DID YOU SAY THAT?

>> YES.

>> I'D CALL THAT E.S.P.,

WOULDN'T YOU?

>> I WOULD CALL IT SEEING

>> JON DOUGH REALLY TOOK HOLD OF

THAT ROLE AND CREATED THAT ROLE

ALMOST ON HIS OWN.

UM, MICHAEL NINN MADE IT INTO

VISUALLY POWERFUL MOVIE AND

TECHNICALLY FAR SUPERIOR THAN

MOST EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAD

BEEN MADE BEFORE THAT.

>> YOU'RE ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN

SOMETHING THAT I DON'T REALLY

UNDERSTAND MYSELF.

>> HE WAS SO DEEPLY DEDICATED TO

WHAT WAS GOING IN THERE, MORE

THAN I EVER SAW HIM

IN ANY MOVIE.

>> THERE WAS ONE SET,

THE KITCHEN SET WITH ZACK

AND SUNSET THOMAS.

THAT'S THE ONLY SET WE SHOT ON.

EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SHOT

AGAINST GREEN SCREEN, WHICH

MEANS EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE

MOVIE HAD TO BE MANUFACTURED

>> I'M IN THE KITCHEN, YOU KNOW,

LATEX GLOVES ON.

AND THERE'S THESE BIG, WHITE

AND I WAS IN THE DRESSING ROOM.

I WAS JUST ALL UPSET BECAUSE

I WAS SO USED WEARING THESE

LITTLE SKIMPY UNDERWEAR.

I SAID, "MIKE, I CANNOT WEAR

THESE GRANNY UNDERWEAR."

>> MICHAEL NINN SEEMS TO DEAL

MORE WITH, UM, BROAD SYMBOLISM,

LIKE, SYMBOLIC STORIES.

THEY WERE HUGE STORIES THAT

TALKED ABOUT BASICALLY

GOOD AND EVIL.

THERE'S ALWAYS THE INNOCENCE

THAT GETS CORRUPTED.

THERE'S THE, THE SOCIETY THAT

CHURNS UP THE INNOCENTS IN ITS

GEARS, IT'S-- IT'S VERY SYMBOLIC

AND BROAD IN ITS SCOPE, AND

I THINK ANDREW BLAKE WAS MORE

ABOUT INSTANCES.

>> HOME VIDEO BECAME SUCH

A POPULAR FORMAT FOR PORN THAT,

BY THE MID-90'S, ADULT THEATERS

WERE ESSENTIALLY A THING

OF THE PAST.

PRODUCERS TRADED NEW YORK AND

SAN FRANCISCO FOR SUNNY L.A.,

AND THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY

BECAME THE UNDISPUTED CAPITAL

OF THE ADULT BUSINESS.

VHS AND THE INDUSTRY SEEMED LIKE

A MARRIAGE THAT WOULD LAST

FOREVER.

BUT PROGRESS NEVER STANDS STILL.

AND A POWERFUL NEW FORMAT WAS

ABOUT TO BRING NEW OPTIONS AND

>> WHY ARE YOU GOING THROUGH

MY PURSE?

>> TO FIND YOUR BADGE.

YOUR FIREMAN I.D.

>> YOU'RE THE KIND OF GIRL WHO

TAKES OUT PERSONAL ADS.

"OH, HOT-BLOODED BLONDE

>> IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER

"BACKDRAFT," THAT BIG FIREMAN

AND WHEN IT CAME TO

"FLASHPOINT," WHAT WE WERE

TRYING TO DO IS WE HAD KIND OF

STARTED TO ELEVATE OUR ADULT

MOVIES INTO WHAT WE THOUGHT

SEX OUT OF THEM, BECOME KIND OF

LIKE THAT "B" MOVIE VIBE.

>> I JUST WISH I HAD

IT HAD A STORYLINE.

AND IT HAD REAL ACTING.

>> FOR ITS TIME, IT WAS A HUGE

MOVIE, AND, UH, AS LUCK WOULD

HAVE IT, I JUST HAPPENED TO MEET

A BIG PYROTECHNICS GUY WHO

WORKED IN THE MAINSTREAM.

>> THEY ACTUALLY WORKED ON

"BACKDRAFT."

>> WHEN WORKING WITH FIRE,

OF COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS A HUGE

AMOUNT OF SAFETY PRECAUTIONS

ESPECIALLY WITH THE MAINSTREAM

GUY DOING IT ALL, YOU KNOW,

WE HAD SAFETY MEETINGS

ALL THE TIME.

>> AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T REALLY

THINK ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS

TO BE A FIREFIGHTER.

SO THEY HAD ME CARRYING

DUMMIES UPSTAIRS.

>> I THINK A COUPLE OF PEOPLE

STARTED THINKING THEY WERE GONNA

PASS OUT RUNNING UP AND DOWN

STAIRS WITH ALL THE GEAR ON.

>> STEVENS, WHAT DO YOU THINK

YOU'RE DOING?

>> SHH!

>> IF THE CAPTAIN CATCHES YOU,

YOUR ASS IS HISTORY.

>> I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE HOW

INCREDIBLY REAL

THIS WAS GOING TO BE.

WHEN YOU'RE HAVING SEX BEHIND

FIRE, YOU DON'T REALLY REALIZE

THE FEAR THAT YOU'RE

GONNA BE FEELING.

>> WE REALLY ONLY HAD ONE HUGE

FIRE DAY, AND HE HAD A HUGE CREW

IN THERE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY

KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

AND REALLY HAD A GRASP OF WHAT

THE ISSUES WERE WHEN IT CAME TO

SAFETY AND ANY, UH-- AND KEEPING

THE ACTORS OUT OF DANGER.

>> I REALLY THINK THAT WE--

WE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING

REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND SOMETHING

>> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,

I DIDN'T EXACTLY INHERIT

MY FATHER'S SIN...

>> IT WAS NOT

A HIGH-BUDGET MOVIE.

OVER FIVE DAYS FOR 70 GRAND.

SO 2-1/2 DAYS, $35,000...

IT'S NOTHING FOR FILM.

>> TO ME, IT WAS A BIG DEAL

BECAUSE THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE--

YOU KNOW, THE FILMS WERE HERE

AND THERE, JUST FEW AND FAR

>> DIDN'T YOU APPLY AT

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN COUNCIL

BLUFFS OR SOMETHING?

>> YEAH, I GOT ACCEPTED, TOO,

BUT I'M NOT READY TO LEAVE YET.

>> THE ACTORS THAT CAME ON

REALLY TOOK IT SERIOUSLY AND

REALLY, YOU KNOW, I GOT GOOD

PEOPLE WITH ACTING CHOPS.

SHANNA McCULLOUGH WHO,

YOU KNOW, LATER WON AN AWARD

FOR IT FOR BEST ACTRESS.

>> THIS WAS A FILM NOIR

AND IT WAS A DETECTIVE STORY

AND HE WANTED ME TO STAR IN IT.

IT'S A STORY OF TWO DETECTIVES

AND THIS WOMAN

WHO'S A FEMME FATALE KILLER.

AND SHE'S, YOU KNOW, SEDUCING

MEN AND THEN KILLING THEM.

AND SHE'S BEEN STALKING

MY PARTNER.

APPARENTLY, HIS FATHER DEALT

WITH THIS ALSO FEMME FATALE

IN HIS CAREER AS A POLICEMAN.

AND HE THINKS IT'S THE SAME

WOMAN AND SHE'S STILL AROUND

AFTER 50 YEARS.

AND I SAID, "NO, IT MUST

BE HER DAUGHTER."

>> THE LOOK OF "LOOKER" IS VERY

GRITTY AND NOIR INSPIRED

AND THIS IS NO ACCIDENT.

I WANTED TO DO A MOVIE THAT

COULD'VE BEEN SHOT IN THE 30s.

>> HE WAS A REAL SLAVE DRIVER.

HE LITERALLY WOULD WORK

A 24-HOUR DAY IF THAT WAS WHAT

WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE HE WAS

A PERFECTIONIST AND HE WANTED

EVERYBODY ELSE TO BE.

>> WHEN WE SHOT THAT MOVIE, WE

KNEW WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL.

>> WE PUT A LOT OF HEART INTO IT

AND NIC PUT A LOT OF HEART INTO

IT, AND WE DIDN'T GET

AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT MUCH

ANYMORE SO IT REALLY FELT GOOD

THAT IT WAS RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT

WE REALLY WANTED IT TO BE.

>> EARLY ON IN THE SHOW,

SHANNA WON FOR BEST ACTRESS.

AND WE WERE LOOKING AT EACH

OTHER LIKE, "COULD THIS BE?"

AND THEN JUST THE FLOODGATES

JUST OPENED UP AND WE WON BEST

FILM DIRECTOR FOR ME, BEST FILM,

ART DIRECTION, SCRIPT, EDITING.

I MEAN, TRIFECTA, SWEEP.

SO IT WAS ONE OF THE BETTER

>> DOGS LICK.

MEN FUCKING EAT PUSSY.

EAT MY PUSSY.

>> "SEVEN DEADLY SINS" WAS

THE OBVIOUS CANDIDATE FOR

THE VIGNETTE STYLE OF SHOOTING.

I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE

EVERYTHING DISTINCTLY,

UH, REPRESENTED

BY THE SIN ITSELF.

>> WHERE AM I?

>> YOU STUPID BITCH.

>> THE BASIC STORY IS A CRISIS

OF THIS WOMAN WHO'S IN LOVE

WITH THE REAL JANINE.

AND SHE'S BEEN TOLD THAT SHE

ACTUALLY KIND OF LOOKS LIKE

JANINE, BUT OF COURSE, WE HAVE

A REALLY DOWDY VERSION OF HER.

SO THE CHALLENGE WAS HOW DO WE

>> IT WAS A STRETCH, YOU KNOW,

IT WAS, UH...

I WAS JUST KIND OF... IT'S HARD

NOT TO JUST EMBRACE HER.

SO, UH, TO TAKE MYSELF OUT OF

THAT SITUATION AND BE LIKE,

"YEAH, IT'S ME AND IT'S ME,"

>> YOU KNOW, THERE WERE CERTAIN

THINGS THAT WE HAD TO HIDE.

WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOOT AND

BE SOMEBODY, AND YOU CAN'T SHOW

YOUR FACE OR YOU'RE TRYING TO

IT WASN'T EASY.

THAT I CAN TELL YOU.

>> YOUR A WHINY, DRIED-UP

OLD MAID.

>> SHUT UP!

>> THAT NOBODY WANTS.

>> SHUT UP.

>> THERE WAS A LOT OF FOOD.

THERE WAS AN ABUNDANCE OF--

(GIGGLING)

IT'S A PERFECT SCENE IF YOU'RE

A FOOD FETISH KIND OF GUY.

>> WE HAD TO BUILD SUPPORTS

FOR THESE-- I THINK THEY WERE

TEN-FEET TALL--

AND WE DID AN ARC AROUND THAT.

AND THEN SET THAT IN

A STAGE THAT, AT THE TIME,

I THINK WAS BLACK.

SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW--

AND THEN WE ACTUALLY GOT A

TURNTABLE FOR THEM TO HAVE SEX

ON SO THAT COULD REVOLVE, SO THE

IMAGE BEHIND IN ALL THE MIRRORS

WAS REVOLVING AT THE SAME TIME.

IT HAD A VERY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF

A SURREAL DEPARTMENT STORE

>> HEY, WATCH THE TEETH,

SWEETIE.

>> SORRY, FORCE OF HABIT.

>> "DARK ANGELS" CAME OUT--

SCOTT TAYLOR, THE OWNER

OF NEW SENSATIONS.

HE GOES, "I'VE ALWAYS REALLY

KIND OF LIKED HORROR MOVIES AND

STUFF AND VAMPIRE-TYPE STUFF."

AND I SAID, "WELL, WE CAN DO

>> YOU LOOKING FOR SOMETHING

SPECIAL TONIGHT?

>> IT DEPENDS, YOU A COP?

>> YOU SEE A BADGE, SWEETHEART?

>> WHEN I CONCEIVED THE WHOLE

STORY AND WAS WRITING THE SCRIPT

AND EVERYTHING, MIKE HORNER WAS

ALREADY CAST IN MY HEAD.

>> WE HAD TO SPEND MORE TIME

PREPPING AND SETTING UP FOR THE

BLEEDING SCENE THAN WE DID ON

THE ENTIRE SEX SCENE, BECAUSE IT

TOOK SEVERAL HOURS FOR THEM TO

THEY HAD TO CLEAN THE CAR ONE

TIME FROM ALL THIS BLOOD--

ALL OVER THE WINDOWS.

IT JUST DIDN'T WORK FOR

>> I WAS JUST GETTING TO THAT.

>> WE DIDN'T GET STARTED DOING

THAT SCENE UNTIL ABOUT MIDNIGHT.

AND WE WENT TILL LIKE

4:00 IN THE MORNING,

5:00 IN THE MORNING.

WE GOT OUT OF THERE JUST IN TIME

FOR THE SUNRISE.

>> WHEN I APPROACHED SYDNEE TO

DO THE MOVIE, I SAID,

"ALL RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF

YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS

BEFORE, WE'RE GONNA DO, LIKE,

YOU KNOW, FULL-BODY CAST

OF YOU, PROSTHETICS."

'CAUSE THAT'S HER IN THE MONSTER

SUIT AT THE END.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE GONNA

BE WEARING CONTACTS

AND ALL THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW,

WOULD YOU COMMIT TO THIS?

>> AND I'M LOOKING AROUND THE

WAREHOUSE AND THINKING, "MAN,

YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING IN THIS

WAREHOUSE AND, YOU KNOW, I'M A

NEVER TOOK THE TIME TO TAKE CARE

OF ALL THESE PALLETS THAT LAY

HERE ALL OVER, BROKEN."

"AH, I'LL NEVER FALL ON THAT."

IN THE DUMPSTER,

WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT?

PALLET, RIGHT, RIGHT?

A PALLET AND BROKEN GLASS.

>> JEWEL DE'NYLE WAS THE

CONTRACT GIRL, AND SHE ACTUALLY

QUIT, UH, FIVE DAYS BEFORE

WE FINISHED SHOOTING.

SHE STORMED OFF THE SET.

IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE

BEHIND-THE-SCENES.

FORTUNATELY, I HAD SHOT THE END

ALREADY.

IT BROKE A LOT OF RULES

WHEN IT CAME OUT.

IT UPSET SOME PEOPLE,

IT EXCITED A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT

MADE A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW?

IT WAS-- IT WAS ONE OF

THOSE GREAT EXPERIENCES THAT

I WAS NEVER ABLE TO DUPLICATE,

EVEN WITH BIGGER BUDGETS, BIGGER

CREWS, NEWER EQUIPMENT,

EVERYTHING.

I WAS NEVER ABLE TO CAPTURE

THE MAGIC THAT WENT INTO

>> YOU TRIED TO GET MY

ATTENTION.

>> YES.

>> WELL, YOU DID.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED

BY YOUR DVD.

ANYTHING ELSE IMPRESS YOU

>> I THOUGHT I HAD A GOOD MOVIE

BECAUSE, UH, THE SCRIPT WAS THE

BEST SCRIPT THAT I THOUGHT I HAD

EVER COME UP WITH IN TERMS OF

INTERESTING IDEAS.

IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO WRITE IT.

(SHRIEKING)

>> TO BE DIRECTED BY JOHN,

ESPECIALLY FOR THIS MOVIE,

WAS SO SPECIAL FOR ME

I WAS A BIG FAN OF ALL

THE "BUTTMAN" SERIES.

I WAS A BIG FAN OF JOHN, SO IT

WAS LIKE BEING IN A DREAM.

>> I HAD A GOOD MEETING WITH MY

CINEMATOGRAPHER WHO SAID,

"WELL, WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP

BETWEEN THOSE TWO GIRLS?"

AND I SAID, "OH.

THEY COULD HAVE A RELATIONSHIP."

THAT'S MORE THAN JUST THE GIRL

IN THE BACK ROOM TRYING TO

SEDUCE ROCCO.

>> MY ENGLISH AT THAT TIME

WAS HORRIBLE, LIKE,

BARELY ANY ENGLISH.

ROCCO SPEAKS FRENCH VERY WELL

SO HE WOULD TRANSLATE SOME OF

THE THINGS, BUT THE FUNNIEST

PART WAS-- WAS THE DIALOGUE

I HAD, I WAS BASICALLY DOING

IT-- DOING IT-- PHONETICALLY.

>> I TOLD YOU THEY ARE STILL

IN THE DARK AGES.

I'M ALREADY NOT A GREAT ACTOR

TO START WITH,

BUT HERE, IT WAS LIKE--

LIKE ROBOTIC ACTING.

>> I'LL DO THIS THING ABOUT

THIS LITTLE FASHION COMPANY

'CAUSE I WANNA DO STUFF WITH

FASHION 'CAUSE I LIKE CLOTHES

AND SEXY CLOTHES ON GIRLS.

IT GIVES ME AN EXCUSE, AND I'LL

HAVE THIS LITTLE MOUSEY GIRL

SITTING IN THE CORNER AND

SHE'LL JUST-- SHE'LL REALLY BE

THE BRAINS BEHIND THE OPERATION.

AND WE'LL DO THIS LIKE NORMAL,

LIKE TV SHOW KIND OF THING.

BUT THAT MORPHED INTO A FETISH

FASHION COMPANY AND THE GIRL

SITTING IN THE CORNER WAS

BELLADONNA WHO SENDS THE GUY

SHE'S TRYING TO SEDUCE AN

EXTREME S&M DVD WHERE HE FINDS

THIS STUFF WITH EASTER EGGS

ON THE DVD.

IT MORPHED INTO SOMETHING THAT

WAS REALLY LIKE A PRIMER

FOR S&M SEX.

WHEREAS, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE

THIS MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD THING,

BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK

MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD SOMEHOW.

305 ROLLS OF FILM AS I RECALL.

AND MOST OF THOSE WERE THE FOUR

MINUTES, ALTHOUGH, WE DID HAVE

ON TWO DIFFERENT DAYS, WE HAD

THE BIG CAMERA WHICH COULD SHOOT

11 MINUTES AT A TIME

WHICH WAS SO GREAT, 11 MINUTES.

I DON'T THINK I'VE DONE MY BEST

MOVIE YET, THAT'S FOR SURE.

I HOPE TO BE DOING MY NEXT MOVIE

IS GONNA BE MY BEST MOVIE,

>> WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU TODAY?

>> I'D LIKE A MASSAGE.

>> WELL, YOU'VE CERTAINLY COME

TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

>> I MADE THE ORIGINAL

"MASSEUSE" IN ABOUT 1990

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT WAS REALLY A DEPARTURE

>> HELLO, THIS IS JIM.

>> I THINK IT IS THE BEST

I FELT SO INCREDIBLY

COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCRIPT,

>> THE DIRECTNESS, THE

SIMPLICITY, THE TRUTHFULNESS

OF IT.

THERE'S NO BELLS AND WHISTLES.

IT'S JUST A MASSEUSE

AND HER CLIENT TALKING.

YOU KNOW, WHAT DID I CALL IT--

"MY DINNER WITH ANDRE"

OF X-RATED MOVIES.

>> IF YOU WATCH THE MOVIE

CLOSELY, YOU CAN ALMOST SEE ME,

THE REAL ME,

DISCOVERING MYSELF.

SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE IT SO MUCH.

HOW OLD ARE YOU?

>> 28.

>> GIRLFRIEND?

>> CAN I TELL YOU A SECRET?

>> SURE, I LOVE SECRETS.

>> I'M A VIRGIN.

>> I LIKE TO STAB

AND SEE HOW FAR I CAN GO.

PAUL THOMAS HAS A WAY ABOUT HIM,

AND I THINK I GAINED

A LITTLE BIT OF HIS RESPECT.

HE'S USED TO BEING ABLE TO TELL

PEOPLE POP, POP, POP, POP, POP.

AND I WOULD BE LIKE, "LISTEN,

NO, THIS IS THE WAY THIS SHOULD

BE, AND THIS IS THE WAY

THIS SHOULD BE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?"

>> SHE BROUGHT A LOT TO

THE TABLE, SHE LISTENED TO ME,

ALWAYS ON TIME-- I'M THE ONE

WHO HAD TO STEP UP MY GAME.

YOU KNOW, WITH JENNA,

NO PARTYING, YOU KNOW?

>> I'LL SEE YOU LATER,

>> I PLAYED JUSTINE JONES,

JONES," AND JENNA JAMESON

PLAYED THE DEVIL, WHICH WAS

QUITE INTERESTING BECAUSE I GOT

THE SCRIPT AND THEN HEARD THAT

AND MY-- MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS

NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO REMAKE

THIS AMAZING CLASSIC FILM,

"THE DEVIL AND MISS JONES," BUT

ALSO NOW NEXT TO JENNA JAMESON

>> AT FIRST IT FEELS LIKE

A NO-WIN SITUATION, YOU KNOW?

WHAT AM I GONNA MAKE

ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU GET

"GODFATHER TWO," BUT MOST OF THE

TIME, THE SEQUEL'S JUST AREN'T

SO GOOD IF THE ORIGINAL'S

>> I HAD BEEN OUT OF

THE BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND PAUL THOMAS CALLED ME ONE

NIGHT AND SAID, "WE'RE GONNA DO

A REMAKE OF 'THE DEVIL

AND I SAID, "WELL, VERY GOOD,

PAUL, CONGRATULATIONS,

GOOD LUCK," AND SO FORTH.

AND HE SAYS, "YOU'RE GONNA

BE IN IT," AND I SAID,

"OH, NO, I'M NOT."

AND HE SAID, "OH, YES, YOU ARE."

HE SAYS, "YOU'RE JUST GONNA DO

A CAMEO, THREE LINES."

I SAID, "I DON'T EVEN WANNA

LEARN THREE LINES."

HE SAYS, "I'LL GIVE YOU

$10,000," I SAID, "OKAY."

>> WHEN SHE COMES OUT AT THE END

OF THAT MOVIE, YOU GET CHILLS.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU KNOW

WHO SHE IS.

IT REALLY WORKS, AND, UH...

SHE'S JUST DELIGHTFUL.

>> DO YOU READ, MISS JONES?

>> ONLY ROMANCE NOVELS,

IT'S MY JOB.

>> YOU ARE SO PRIVILEGED.

AND YOU FEEL SO SORRY

FOR YOURSELF.

IS ONE OF THE MOST

GROUNDBREAKING WOMEN EVER.

OWNING HER SEXUALITY AND NOT

BACKING DOWN AT THE TIME WHEN

SHE WAS FAME-- UBER FAMOUS.

I HAVE ULTIMATE RESPECT FOR HER,

AND I MADE SURE I TOLD HER THAT.

AND HER ACTING WAS FANTASTIC,

TOO.

>> IT WAS REALLY COOL TO DO THAT

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME,

WE WERE THREE OF THE BIGGEST

NAMES IN THE BUSINESS,

AND IT WAS LIKE, "WOW, THIS

>> WHILE I'M GETTING DP'D,

I SAY THIS MONOLOGUE FROM--

THAT GEORGINA SPELVIN SAID IN

THE ORIGINAL "MISS JONES."

>> IF YOU TOUCH ME, I'LL COME,

I KNOW I WILL.

TOUCH ME, TOUCH ME, TOUCH ME.

I'LL MAKE YOU COME, TOO.

SO WHEN I DID HOWARD STERN,

HE SAID, "WELL, DID YOU FUCK

A SNAKE," BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT

PEOPLE THINK OF THE ORIGINAL

MISS JONES.

THEY DON'T REMEMBER MUCH, BUT

THEY REMEMBER THE SNAKE SCENE.

AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY REMEMBER

ABOUT IT, BUT THEY THINK MOSTLY

THAT THERE WAS A SEX SCENE

WITH A SNAKE.

SO I WENT TO VIVID AND I SAID,

"LOOK, WE HAVE TO DO

A SNAKE SCENE."

>> IT WAS A GOOD TIME

IN EVERYONE'S LIVES.

THEY WERE TIGHT.

VIVID WAS TIGHT.

WE WERE ALL TIGHT AND WORKING--

REALLY WORKING BOTH FOR

"THE DEVIL IN MISS JONES" AND

FOR "MASSEUSE", WORKING AT THE

TOP OF OUR PROFESSIONAL LEVELS

AND OUR PERSONAL LIVES.

WE'RE ALL PRETTY DAMN TOGETHER.

SO IT WAS NOTHING BUT--

NOTHING BUT POSITIVE.

>> THE 2000s WERE THE DECADE

WHEN PORN GREW UP.

FLUSH WITH MONEY FROM THE DVD

BOOM, PRODUCERS BEGAN SHOOTING

BIGGER MOVIES WITH MAJOR

BUDGETS, GIGANTIC CASTS,

AND ELABORATE SCRIPTS.

THESE ADULT BLOCKBUSTERS NEEDED

A BETTER FORMAT THAN SIMPLE

VIDEO, AND FILM WAS BECOMING

TOO COSTLY TO JUSTIFY.

COMING WITH ITS OWN SET OF

TECHNICAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS,

THE FAST-GROWING HD FORMAT

>> THE FEATURES OF THAT TIME,

WERE PEOPLE SPENDING A LOT

OF MONEY ON THEM...

>> YEAH.

>> WHEN IT WAS NEW, WERE THEY--

>> YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE,

FIRST FEATURE LEADS WAS FOR

"WICKED."

IT WAS THIS REALLY BIG,

LIKE, MICHAEL RAVEN MOVIE.

I REMEMBER IT HAD, LIKE, THESE

OOZING, LIKE, TENTACLE DILDOS

AND FOG MACHINE, AND, LIKE,

THESE BIG SETS AND IT WAS THE

FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE SHOT

OUT IN THE DESERT AND IT WAS,

LIKE, A WIND STORM AND IT WAS

JUST-- IT WAS AWESOME. IT WAS,

LIKE, REALLY FUN TO GO FROM,

LIKE, JUST GETTING, LIKE,

YOU KNOW...

>> NAILED.

>> FUCK-NAILED ON A GONZO SET,

JUST POUNDED, LIKE, "YEAH,

MOTHERFUCKER, COME ON, I CAN

TAKE IT," YOU KNOW,

TO, LIKE, CATERING.

(LAUGHING)

YOU KNOW, LIKE, "WOULD YOU LIKE

A SNACK?"

"YES, I WOULD."

>> THERE'S BREAKFAST ON SET?

>> SO HOW HAS INTERNET AFFECTED

THE INDUSTRY TODAY?

>> I THINK IT MAKES THE FANS

ACCESS YOUR FAVORITE STARS AND

HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND GIVE THEM

GIFTS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO

TALK TO WHOEVER YOU'RE A FAN OF.

SO THE INTERNET, LITERALLY, THEY

CAN SEE WHO'S SHOOTING WHEN,

THAT DAY, THEY KNOW WHEN IT'S

GONNA COME OUT.

IT'S JUST, LIKE, RIGHT NOW,

>> I'M LOOKING FOR A PIRATE.

>> WE KNOW MANY, MANY PIRATES.

>> BY FAR, THE BIGGEST

PRODUCTION THAT I'VE EVER BEEN

INVOLVED IN HAD TO BE

THE "PIRATES."

SHOT STUFF IN L.A., THEN TOOK

THE WHOLE TROOP, CREW, EVERYBODY

THAT WAS INVOLVED IN IT

ALL THE WAY TO FLORIDA.

WE SHOT ON THE U.S.S. BOUNTY.

IT TOOK THREE WEEKS TO SHOOT

>> HELMSMAN, PREPARE

TO SET SAIL.

>> ARE YOU REALLY GONNA

LET HER GO UNSCATHED, SIR?

>> OF COURSE NOT.

>> WORKING WITH JOONE,

HE HAS A VISION,

HE'S AN ARTIST.

HE HAS THIS GREAT VISION

OF SOMETHING BIGGER

>> THERE'S SOME DIRECTORS THAT

ACTUALLY GET INVOLVED IN THEIR

STUFF, THEY HAVE THE VISION IN

THEIR HEAD, AND JOONE IS ONE

OF THOSE DIRECTORS.

HE ALREADY HAD THE SET IN HIS

HEAD AND THEY BUILT IT AND

THEY TOOK THEIR TIME TO DO IT

AND HE KNEW EXACTLY

WHAT HE WANTED.

ALREADY HAD THE SHOTS

IN HIS HEAD.

>> IT'S A BIT SLOW TONIGHT,

IT'S AWKWARD.

>> LINE UP THE CREW ON THE BOW.

BRING ME THE PASSENGERS

FROM THE DECK BELOW.

AND, SERENA,

AS MUCH AS I LOVE YOUR METHODS,

DON'T EVEN CONSIDER KILLING

>> I DON'T THINK I WAS EVER

A CRUEL PIRATE.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO WATCH THAT

AGAIN... UH, WAS I A CRUEL--

SHE WAS A HORNY PIRATE.

I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS CRUEL.

>> WELL, THERE'S THE VICIOUS

LADY I REMEMBER.

>> DON'T EVER SECOND-GUESS ME.

>> HE BUILT THE TENSION.

SO WE WERE, OF COURSE,

THE LAST SCENE OF "PIRATES."

HE JUST WAITED, AND THEY WOULD

SAY LITTLE THINGS TO US TO LIKE

GET US READY AND TURNED-ON

AND READY TO GO.

>> THEY KEPT JESSE JANE

AND I SEPARATE, UH, SEPARATED

JUST SO THE TENSION AND

THE, YOU KNOW, THE ANTICIPATION

WOULD BUILD UP AND...

>> AND HE'S COME TEASE ME.

"I WONDER WHO'S GONNA WIN?

I GUESS SHE'S GONNA SHOW YOU."

>> SHE'S ABOUT HALF MY SIZE

AND THIS LITTLE-- THIS LITTLE

CUPCAKE THOUGHT SHE WAS GONNA...

DOMINATE ME?

I HAD TO-- I HAD TO PUT HER IN

HER PLACE, BUT I LET HER PRETEND

TO THINK THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT.

>> OKAY, SO CARMEN GETS PUT--

CHOKED OFF THE BOAT

BY TOMMY GUNN.

>> AND THEY WANTED TO DO THIS

STUNT WHERE, UH, STUNT GIRL GOES

OFF IN THE WATER, NO BIG DEAL.

>> AND SHE GOES, "NO."

>> WELL, JESSE WOULDN'T HAVE

NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

SHE WANTED TO DO THE STUNT

HERSELF.

>> AND OF COURSE, I'M A

DAREDEVIL, SO I'M LIKE,

"I'LL DO IT."

>> AND I KNOW WHAT'S GONNA

HAPPEN BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENS.

SO I ALREADY GOT MY STUFF OFF,

GOT MY BOOTS OFF, AND

I'M JUST STANDING HERE AND JUST

WAITING FOR HER TO JUMP IN.

AS SOON AS SHE JUMP IN

AND THEY GOT THE SHOT AND THE

SPLASH, I'M IN THE WATER

AFTER HER.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN THINKING THAT

THIS BIG, BALLOONING DRESS IS

JUST GONNA SUCK UP RIGHT TO HER,

AND SHE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO

KICK, SHE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE

TO DO ANYTHING.

>> WELL, MY DRESS, HER DRESS,

GETS CAUGHT ON A NAIL

UNDERNEATH THE BOAT

AND I START SINKING

AND I CAN'T COME UP.

>> BUT SHE WENT IN

AND SHE ALMOST DROWNED.

>> I THINK SOME OF THAT WAS

BEHIND-THE-SCENES, NOT ALL OF IT

WHERE I WAS DROWNING,

'CAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY

NOT GOOD.

I DEFINITELY DIDN'T KNOW

IT WOULD BE AS BIG AS IT WAS

AND THE NUMBER ONE MOVIE EVER.

AND PEOPLE WHO EVER WATCHED PORN

HEARD OF THE MOVIE AND WENT

TO WATCH IT.

IT WAS THE FIRST MOVIE TO BE CUT

INTO A RATED R VERSION AND

RENTED IN BLOCKBUSTER.

IT WAS A BLOCKBUSTER HIT.

>> YOU MUST THINK ME A MONSTER.

>> "CORRUPTION" WAS PROBABLY

THE FIRST BIG-BUDGET MOVIE

I WAS THAT INVOLVED IN.

I'D, YOU KNOW, BEEN IN OTHER

BIG-BUDGET MOVIES AS TALENT,

BUT YOU'RE NOT AS INVOLVED

YOU SHOW UP AND, YOU KNOW,

YOU PRETTY MUCH DO YOUR THING

>> IT WAS SOMETHING BEING DONE

AND BEING DONE WELL AND WITH,

LIKE, HEART.

THAT, LIKE, ATTRACTS ME.

YEAH, I GOT YOU

RIGHT WHERE YOU WANT ME.

>> I ALSO HAD A PRETTY

DECENT ACTING ROLE.

AND THAT WAS PLAYING THE PART

OF CAROLYN HELMS,

WHO WAS THE SENATOR'S WIFE.

AND SHE'S KIND OF THE CENTRAL

PART OF THE MOVIE.

HERE'S CAROLYN IN THE MIDDLE,

AND SHE'S KIND OF STARTS

MANIPULATING EVERYBODY

>> I'M A UNION LEADER,

A TEAMSTER.

AND I'M A-- I'M TRYING TO WORK,

TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE.

WORD IS YOU'RE PLANNING A RUN

AT THE BIG TICKET IN TWO YEARS.

IF THAT'S TRUE, YOU'RE GONNA

NEED MONEY, US, AND GOD

ON YOUR SIDE... IN THAT ORDER.

I'M BEING BLACKMAILED IN THIS

SCENE, SO I'M-- SO I'M DOING--

I'M PERFORMING A SEXUAL ACT

THAT IF I GET CAUGHT,

MY OWN CAREER WOULD BE DONE.

SO I WAS-- IT WAS ANOTHER SCENE

OF HUMILIATION FOR ME, WHICH I'M

COMFORTABLE WITH IN MY OWN LIFE

WITH TWO MARRIAGES BEHIND ME.

>> HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY PUSH

ME OUT OF THE CAR?

HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY ALMOST

HIT ME WITH THE CAR?

>> I THINK THEY WERE JUST HAVING

FUN THROWING JAMES OUT OF A CAR.

>> I HAD TO BE LIKE LIMP AND GET

THROWN OF THIS CAR, UM,

ONTO A PILE OF GARBAGE.

>> I THINK THEY MUST'VE SHOT

THAT SCENE. FOR WHATEVER REASON,

LIKE 15 TIMES.

>> IT FELT LIKE FOREVER 'CAUSE

I'D BEEN PUSHED OUT OF THE CAR

IN TO GARBAGE.

AND THEN THERE WAS THIS ONE TIME

WHERE, UH, MY LEGS FELT A LITTLE

WEIRD AND, LIKE, EVERYONE

STARTED SCREAMING 'CAUSE THE CAR

ALMOST ROLLED OVER MY ANKLE.

>> IT WAS FUN, IT WAS FANTASTIC

BECAUSE WE'D ALL WORKED SO HARD

ON IT AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS

SENSE OF FAMILY AND HARD WORK,

AND THE MOVIE JUST LOOKED

INCREDIBLE.

AND THEN WE WON.

AND I REMEMBER JUMPING UP

WHEN WE WON AT THE AVN AWARDS

AND I HAD A CORSET ON AND I WAS

SO EXCITED AND I ACTUALLY PEED

>> WOW.

THAT WAS THE CLOSEST THING

TO GOD I'VE EVER FELT.

>> I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S...

IT'S A LOT BIGGER AND A LOT

IT WAS MY FIRST LEAD,

BIG FEATURE FILM LIKE THAT.

I HAD DONE THE SMALLER ONES

WHERE I WAS LIKE SUPPORTING

ACTRESS.

BUT THIS WAS LIKE-- IT REALLY

PUT ME ON THE MAP AS FAR

MY PARTNER DIES,

LIKE, IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

I'M DEVASTATED.

BUT I'M KIND OF LIKE A HARD-ASS,

TOO, AND I DON'T LET ANYBODY

KIND OF SEE MY EMOTIONS.

AND WE DISCOVER THIS HACKER

GIRL, WHICH WAS PLAYED

BY HILLARY SCOTT.

AT THAT POINT, SEXY PICTURES

HAD JUST SIGNED HILLARY

TO UNDER CONTRACT.

AND THEY TOLD US

WE HAD TO USE HER.

IN THE END,

HILLARY DID AN AMAZING JOB.

SHE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW...

SHE WAS PREPARED AND SHE CAME

AND WHO AM I KIDDING?

SHE DID NOT WORK HARD AT ALL.

SHE DIDN'T, I'M LYING TO TRY

THROUGH THE MIRACLE OF EDITING

AND GOOD ACTING COACHING,

I THINK THAT SHE FILLED

THE ROLE FINE.

>> DAVID, I KNOW YOU CAN

HEAR ME.

>> SHOWED UP ON SET AND I WAS

LIKE, "OH, THIS IS A BIG MOVIE,

AND THEY'RE LIKE, "YEAH, YOU'RE

LIKE THE STAR OF IT."

I'M LIKE, "BUT I'M ONLY HERE

FOR A DAY."

AND THEY'RE LIKE, "WELL, ALL

RIGHT, YOU'RE NOT THE STAR OF

IT, YOU'RE JUST-- THE WHOLE

>> YOU SEE A LOT OF MOVIES IN

PORN WHERE THEY SAY, "WE SPEND

A MILLION DOLLARS, WE SPEND $2

MILLION," WHATEVER THE CASE IS.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT

FOR THE MOST PART, THEY LIE.

PEOPLE WILL SAY, "WE SPEND ALL

THIS MONEY," AND THEY USUALLY

DOUBLE THE AMOUNT.

NOW LET ME TELL YOU,

"UPLOAD" COST $350,000.

THAT'S AN UNHEARD OF AMOUNT

OF MONEY IN PORN.

WE SHOT FOR 20 DAYS.

I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER KNOWN

A PORN MOVIE THAT SHOT

FOR 20 DAYS.

>> WHEN "UPLOAD" WON

ALL THE AWARDS, PICKED UP PRETTY

MUCH ALMOST EVERYTHING UNDER

THE SUN AT AVN'S, I FELT LIKE

SUCH A STRONG FEELING

OF ACCOMPLISHMENT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

I LEARNED FROM ELI CROSS IS HE

SAID, "THERE'S TWO THINGS YOU

NEED, YOU NEED MONEY AND TIME.

AND THOSE TWO THINGS WILL ALWAYS

HELP YOU WITH A BETTER MOVIE."

WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE MONEY

THAT WE HAD AND TURN IT

INTO TIME, AND THAT MADE

FOR A BETTER MOVIE.

>> WHATEVER YOU ASK...

I AM YOUR SERVANT.

"FALLEN" TO THIS DAY IS

IN "FALLEN" I AM A GUARDIAN

ANGEL AND MY CHARGE

IS JENNA HAZE.

(EXPLOSION)

>> NO!

I THEN LOSE MY WINGS,

AND I'M SORT OF ROAMING

THE EARTH IN LIMBO IF YOU WILL.

AND I PRETTY MUCH HAVE SEX

WITH EVERYONE IN MY PATH.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT FANTASY

REALM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE

AND A LOVE STORY AT THAT WITH

ALL THIS FANTASY STUFF WITH

ANGELS AND FLYING AROUND ON

ROOFTOPS, IS CAN YOU ACTUALLY

>> OH! OH!

>> A LOT HAS CHANGED.

I'M NO LONGER AN ANGEL.

"FALLEN", I THINK WE SHOT IT

OVER TWO WEEKS, BUT IT WASN'T

EVERY DAY OF THOSE TWO WEEKS.

WE HAD PREP DAYS AND THEN WE HAD

DOWN DAYS, SO-- SO PEOPLE COULD

REST THEIR PARTS, YOU KNOW?

WE HAD A LOT OF REALLY

AMAZING PEOPLE IN IT.

IT HAD ACTING, IT HAD A REALLY

GREAT STORYLINE.

IT HAD A LOT OF SEX.

IT HAD A LOT OF HARDER SEX, TOO.

>> A LOT OF "FALLEN" TAKES PLACE

ON ROOFTOPS, AND THOSE ARE

ACTUALLY IN CAMERA.

I'M-- I'M SCARED OF

GREEN SCREEN MYSELF.

I THINK "FALLEN" STANDS

ON ITS OWN MERITS.

IT'S A GREAT STORY.

IT KIND OF PROPELLED JESSICA

INTO THAT SUPERSTAR STATUS.

AND, UH, DIDN'T DO BAD FOR ME

AS A DIRECTOR, AS WELL.

THE REAL REASON TO DO "FALLEN"

WAS TO KIND OF HAVE JESSICA

HIT THAT OTHER LEVEL.

AND IT'S GREAT IF YOU CAN PUT

HER IN THIS GREAT MOVIE.

BUT IF THE SEX FALTERS,

THEN IT'S JUST A GREAT MOVIE

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T DONE

WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH

YOUR STARLET BY TAKING HER

>> WHAT HAPPENED?

>> NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE.

THEY CALL IT THE BIG BURN.

AND ON THE EIGHTH DAY,

>> WHEN I THINK OF

A POST-APOCALYPTIC WORLD,

UH, IT'S MORE THAN

JUST BROKEN DOWN BUILDINGS.

THERE'S A PRIMAL ELEMENT TO IT

WHERE PEOPLE ARE STEALING FROM

EACH OTHER IN MORE WAYS THAN

ONE, AND LIFE BECOMES CHEAPER

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

>> MY CHARACTER WAS BASICALLY

BEING SEX TRAFFICKED

IN POST-APOCALYPTIC, UH--

I DON'T THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY

I MEAN, JUST POST-APOCALYPTIC

EARTH.

>> YOU A BUTCHER NOW, TOO?

>> SPECIAL COMMISSION

FOR THE PRINCE.

HE GETS FIRST LOOK

AT ALL MY TRADE.

>> "THE 8TH DAY" WAS CONCEIVED

BY ME WITH AMBER RAYNE IN MIND

AS THE LEAD CHARACTER.

SHE IS THE SCRUFFY TANK GIRL

IN THE WHOLE MOVIE.

BUT IT WAS PERCEIVED BY EVERYONE

THAT KAYDEN, BEING ADAM & EVE'S

CONTRACT GIRL, WAS THE STAR

OF THE SHOW.

AND SHE CERTAINLY WAS

THE BOX COVER, BUT SHE IS

THE SUPPORTING ACTRESS.

AND, UM, WHEN AWARDS TIME CAME

OUT, IT WAS THE OTHER WAY

AROUND.

AMBER GOT SUPPORTING ACTRESS

NOMINEE AND KAYDEN GET,

YOU KNOW, ACTRESS NOMINEE.

>> "THE 8TH DAY" WAS PROBABLY

THE HARDEST MOVIE I'VE EVER

WORKED ON.

THERE WERE SOME DAYS WHERE WE

HAD STARTED THE DAY BEFORE.

THERE WERE EXAMPLES IN THE MOVIE

OF, UM, LIKE A MARKETPLACE, LIKE

A BAZAAR THAT WE HAD TO BUILD

WHERE PEOPLE WERE HAWKING JUNK

OR THEY WERE HAWKING FOOD

OR CLOTHES, THINGS THAT

THEY'D SCAVENGED.

>> THAT WAS A HUGE UNDERTAKING

AS FAR AS ART DIRECTION

WAS CONCERNED.

THE ART DIRECTOR, KYLIE IRELAND,

SPENT WEEKS RUNNING AROUND L.A.

FINDING STUFF TO DO THERE.

MY FAVORITE KAYDEN MOMENT, UM,

IN THE WHOLE SHOW WAS WHEN

SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BREAK DOWN

AND CRY ABOUT HER DAD.

>> IT WAS BEFORE I LEARNED

HOW TO CRY BY MYSELF.

>> AND CAN'T GET ANY TEARS

TO FLOW AT ALL.

WE WAITED A GOOD LONG TIME,

AT LEAST A HALF AN HOUR.

I WALK BACK IN AND I SAID,

"YOU GOT NOTHING?"

SHE GOES, "NO, NOTHING BAD'S

EVER HAPPENED TO ME."

>> I THINK THEY SQUIRTED CITRUS

JUICE OR SOME SORT OF CITRUSY

FRUIT IN MY EYES TO MAKE IT GO.

>> SHE SAID, "HOLY SHIT, LET'S

SHOOT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE GOD DAMN

IT, THIS BURNS."

AND I SAID, "PERFECT."

>> MY DAD DID THIS.

(CRYING)

ALL OF THIS.

>> AND SHE GOES, "WHY DID YOU DO

THAT TO ME?"

I SAID, "FUCK YOU, YOUR LIFE'S

PERFECT."

NO WONDER YOU CAN'T CRY.

>> IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS

AFTER THE BLOOD, SWEAT, AND

TEARS THAT WENT INTO IT,

IT WAS REALLY A NICE PAYOFF.

IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO SAY

SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGED THIS.

IT WASN'T JUST US, YOU KNOW,

FUCKING AROUND IN THE DESERT.

'CAUSE THERE WERE TIMES WHEN IT

>> HOW DID MY FATHER DIE?

>> A YOUNG JEDI NAMED DARTH

VADER, WHO WAS A PUPIL OF MINE,

OFF AND LEFT HIM BURNING

IN A RIVER OF LAVA.

>> "STAR WARS" IS PROBABLY THE

AND THERE'S SO MUCH TO PARODY

IN IT, SO, UM...

WE REALLY DID-- WE REALLY DID,

THAT COULD BE HAD, EVERYTHING

SINGLE REFERENCE THAT WE COULD

HAVE, AND RECREATING A LOT

OF THE SCENES.

IT WAS REALLY A LOT OF FUN.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK,

BUT WE HAD A LOT OF FUN.

>> SHOOT FIRST, SHOOT OFTEN.

SORRY FOR THE MESS.

HAD TO KNOW "STAR WARS" TO ONE,

GET THE HUMOR.

TRYING TO GO WITH IT AND WHAT

WAS HAPPENING WITH STILL KIND OF

TRYING TO STICK TO THE ORIGINAL

SCRIPT.

>> THE THING THAT ALL THE FANS

WOULD ASK ME IN THE BEGINNING

WHEN I ANNOUNCE THE MOVIES,

LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S ONLY ONE

GIRL IN "STAR WARS."

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PORN MOVIE--

TO THIS DAY, PEOPLE WRITE ON

YOUTUBE, THEY WATCH, YOU KNOW,

THEY READ ABOUT IT LIKE THERE'S

GONNA BE ONLY ONE GIRL?

IT'S NOT TRUE, WE FOUND OTHER

GIRLS THAT ARE PART OF

THE "STAR WARS" UNIVERSE.

THE GIRLS IN THE CANTEEN,

I MEAN, THERE'S-- THERE'S

A TON OF PEOPLE THAT WE

WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER,

IT'S WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

>> YOU CAN FIND SEX IN ANYTHING.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT,

YOU KNOW, THE MOVIE OR THE THEME

HAS TO BE SEXY TO MAKE IT SEXY.

THAT'S OUR JOB,

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE

THINGS THAT AREN'T SEXY SEXY.

>> DON'T ACT SO SURPRISED,

YOUR HIGHNESS.

>> I'M NOT SURPRISED.

I'M DISGUSTED.

WE SAT IN A ROOM AND HE TALKED

INTO A POT.

WE RECORDED ALL HIS SOUND IN A

GIANT POT, LIKE A SPAGHETTI POT.

IT WAS HILARIOUS.

>> EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE

I HAVE A GOOD IDEA.

AND IN "STAR WARS" IT WAS LIKE

CHI CHI LARUE.

>> I'M SAVED!

OVER HERE.

HEY, SAILOR!

>> C-3PO HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY

METROSEXUAL, AND I FIGURE WE

TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, TO PARODY

THAT, TO EXPLORE THAT.

>> "STAR WARS" WON A TOTAL OF

EIGHT AWARDS AT AVN WHICH IS THE

MOST THAT ANY PARODY HAS EVER

WON, AND I THINK THAT'S AMAZING.

IT'S CRAZY, UM,

AND WHAT'S EVEN MORE AMAZING

ABOUT THAT IS MOST OF ALL THAT--

ALL THE WORK FOR THE MOVIE WAS

DONE BEHIND-THE-SCENES, WITHOUT

THE SETS, WITHOUT THE COSTUMES,

WITHOUT THE TIME AND DEDICATION

FOR THE SCRIPT.

THE SHOOTING, THE ANGLES,

THE GREEN SCREEN,

THE POST PRODUCTION.

THE MOVIE WOULD'VE BEEN NOTHING.

AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT

REALLY SHOWS AND, YOU KNOW,

BY WINNING EIGHT AVN AWARDS,

IT DEFINITELY SHOWS THAT OTHER

PEOPLE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD

>> MOST KNOW ME AS DEATH.

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

>> I'VE COME FOR YOU.

>> THE BASIS BEHIND

"UNDERWORLD--" I PLAY

A CHARACTER NAMED TANYA,

AND I HAVE BEEN WITH MY FIANCÉ

AND WE HAVE MADE THE SWEET LOVE,

TO DRIVE ME HOME,

WE'RE IN HIS PARKING GARAGE,

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE

VICTIMS OF A VIOLENT MUGGING.

>> SAY GOOD-BYE TO YOUR

BOYFRIEND.

>> NO, PLEASE!

>> THE OPENING IS, UH,

A BIT DRASTIC

AND A BIT BLOODY

AND VIOLENT, UH,

BUT WE ACTUALLY

WENT BACK AND FORTH ON

HOW VIOLENT TO MAKE IT.

>> AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE MY

LIFE, I'M PUT UNDER ANESTHESIA.

AND WHEN I GO UNDER ANESTHESIA,

THE REST OF THE MOVIE IS THAT,

GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN

ME FIGHTING FOR MY LIFE IN THE

OPERATING ROOM AND THE THINGS

THAT ARE HAPPENING TO ME

IN THE UNDERWORLD.

>> IF YOU REALLY WATCH THE

MOVIE, EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH

IS-- HAS A MIRROR IMAGE WITH THE

PEOPLE IN THE OPERATING ROOM

AND THE UNDERWORLD BELOW.

EVERYTHING'S KIND OF TIED IN

AND EVERYTHING'S, UH, GOT

A YING AND A YANG SORT OF THING.

>> XANDER CORVUS PLAYS SLICE

AND HE WAS SORT OF, UH,

HE HAD SCALPEL FINGERS

AND HE WAS UP ON STILTS AND

SO HE WAS THE SCALPEL THAT

WAS STARTING THE SURGERY.

>> THIS JOURNEY THAT YOU'VE

EMBARKED UPON IS YOUR

SUBCONSCIOUS SELF REACTING

TO THE WORLD AROUND IT.

>> THE NURSE WAS PASSING

THE GAUZE TO THE DOCTOR.

DURING MY OPERATION IT FELL.

AND AS IT DROPPED, YOU SEE

AN AERIALIST FALL OUT OF THE SKY

>> SO ME AND JESSICA DRAKE GOT

TO HAVE SEX ON WATER, OR IT

LOOKED AS THOUGH IT WAS DIRECTLY

ON THE WATER, BUT IT WAS

WAS BUILT AND, UH, THERE WAS

MAYBE LIKE AN INCH OF WATER

ON TOP OF IT.

>> AND I'M BLOODY IN A SHALLOW

POOL OF WATER FOR LIKE

EIGHT HOURS THAT DAY.

>> WHEN THE INTIMIDATION MELTED

AWAY WAS WHEN SHE STUMBLED ON

A FEW OF HER LINES AND LAUGHED

AT HERSELF.

AND THEN YOU REALIZE, LIKE,

SOMEONE'S A HUMAN BEING,

AND THEY'RE A NORMAL PERSON

AND... THAT'S OKAY.

>> OH, I LOVE HAVING SEX

WITH ASA AKIRA.

RIGHT BEFORE THE SCENE, WE'RE

TAKING PRETTY GIRLS AND I'M

LIKE, "OH, THIS IS GONNA BE

REALLY FUN."

WE JUST SORT OF GOT ON EACH

OTHER AND ROLLED OFF THE SET.

WE DID IT EVERYWHERE.

LIKE, WE WERE JUST HAVING SEX,

SO, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, YEAH,

I WOULD LIKE TO, UH,

>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE

YOU WANT?

>> I MEAN, WHAT ELSE IS THERE

APART FROM LUXURY?

>> THAT CAN'T BE

A SERIOUS QUESTION.

>> AN INDIE PORNO,

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT.

IT'S-- IT'S LIKE A REAL MOVIE

WITH EMOTION AND ACTING

IT'S PORN WITH A REAL STORYLINE.

>> WHY DID YOU COME?

>> I CAN'T DO THIS AGAIN.

>> WHY DID YOU COME

AFTER FIVE FUCKING YEARS?

MY CHARACTER, HER NAME'S JACKY.

SHE'S THE BADASS.

SHE'S DEFINITELY THE BADASS

OF THE MOVIE AND SHE, UH,

IS TRYING TO OPEN

THE OTHER LILY UP TO THIS WORLD

>> MY ROLE IN "WASTELAND"

WAS VERY SIMPLE.

THERE'S TWO GIRLS AT THE BAR.

I SAY SOMETHING IN THEIR EARS

WHICH IS EASY FOR ME.

TAKE HER UP TO THE BATHROOM

AND HAVE SEX WITH LILY LABEAU

IN THE BATHROOM.

IT'S A VERY, VERY CLOSED

ENVIRONMENT, IT'S LITERALLY

REAL TOILET SO THERE WAS NO ROOM

TO OPEN THE DOOR, SHOOT, LIKE,

THROUGH THE OPEN DOOR.

THEY SHOT IT ALL FROM ABOVE.

I THINK HE KNEW THAT THE BEST

WAY TO USE ME IS NOT TO HAVE ME

SPEAK BUT LET ME JUST FUCK.

>> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE

BIGGEST THINGS THAT SEPARATES

"WASTELAND" FROM A LOT OF

THE OTHER PORN IS THAT THE SHOTS

ARE SO BEAUTIFUL

AND THEY ARE THOUGHT OUT.

EVERY SINGLE SHOT IS THOUGHT OUT

AND PLANNED TO JUST--

>> IT WAS REALLY, REALLY DARK,

UM, WHERE WE SHOT THAT SCENE,

FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SHOT

ANYTHING IN SUCH DARK LIGHTING.

IT WAS JUST COMPLETELY DARK.

I WAS LIKE, "REALLY, LIKE, CAN

YOU GUYS REALLY SEE

WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING?"

THEY'RE LIKE,

"YEAH, YEAH, IT LOOKS COOL."

>> IT'S THIS WHOLE STORY

COMBINING TO MAKE THIS BEAUTIFUL

JUDGMENT HAD REARED

ITS UGLY HEAD.

AND RIGHT WHEN MY GUARD

WAS FULLY DOWN,

IT SUDDENLY HAD POPPED BACK UP.

>> EMMA GOES INTO INTERVIEW

A MAN BY THE NAME OF

WILLIAM FITZGERALD WHO IS THIS

VERY PROMINENT BUSINESSMAN WHO

EMPLOYS PREDOMINANTLY FEMALES.

THERE'S AN UNSPOKEN ATTRACTION

PROPOSITIONS HER FOR

THE ROLE OF BEING HIS SUB.

SHE'S NOT A VERY SEXUAL PERSON.

SHE DEFINITELY DOESN'T CONFORM

TO NORMAL SOCIETY'S VIEWS

>> I DIDN'T READ THE "50 SHADES

OF GREY" BOOK OR ANYTHING LIKE

THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER JACKY

WE WANNA DO PRETTY MUCH

THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

>> I READ "50 SHADES OF GREY"

AND I HATED HOW THE FEMALE

PROTAGONIST WAS PORTRAYED.

SHE WAS INCREDIBLY WEAK AND HER

ENTIRE MOTIVATION WAS TO PLEASE

A MAN AND TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY.

I WANTED TO SET ABOUT WRITING

A BDSM STORY THAT REALLY

EXPLORED A STRONG WOMAN'S

SUB ROLE AND HOW THAT CAN BE

SO EMPOWERING FOR HER.

>> SHE WAS, UM, LIVING, LIKE,

A KIND OF RESERVED LIFE

AND NOT REALLY BEING HERSELF,

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN

VERY MUCH RELATE TO BECAUSE

I ALWAYS WANTED TO JUST, LIKE,

BE THE PERSON THAT EVERYONE

WANTED ME TO BE.

>> BDSM IS NOT JUST BEATING

SOMEBODY AND HARMING SOMEBODY

AND PHYSICALLY HURTING THEM.

IT'S SO MUCH ABOUT THE MENTAL

ASPECT OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

SO FOR ME, I WANTED TO TELL

A STORY ABOUT THAT.

>> I DID FEEL LIKE, UH, I HAD

A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADVANTAGE

JOINING THE MOVIE BECAUSE I HAD

SOME BDSM EXPERIENCE WORKING

WITH DIFFERENT BONDAGE COMPANIES

IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO

BRING IN A LITTLE BIT OF

MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE

WITH THAT FOR A MOVIE THAT

SO MUCH, LIKE, REVOLVES AROUND

THE BDSM COMMUNITY.

>> SO "THE SUBMISSION OF

EMMA MARX" WON BEST BDSM MOVIE

AT AVN.

AND I WAS COMPLETELY FLOORED

BECAUSE WE'RE UP AGAINST

BDSM COMPANIES.

AND NEW SENSATIONS MAINLY IS

A FEATURE GONZO STUDIO

THAT DOESN'T REALLY FOCUS ON

ANYTHING PARTICULARLY HARDCORE.

>> I WAS REALLY FLATTERED THAT

THEY WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT FILM,

ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT IT WASN'T

REALLY THE PHYSICALITY

THAT WAS EXPLORED.

IT WAS THE MENTAL ASPECT.

>> WHEN I FIRST STARTED,

WE WERE DOING FILM,

IT WAS A THRILL.

IT WAS GREAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE

LUGGING THESE BIG ASS CAMERAS

AROUND SAN FRANCISCO

AND HAVING A FIELD DAY.

NOBODY BOTHERED US, NOBODY

CARED, YOU JUST DID THE MOVIES.

AND THE DRUGS WERE GREAT.

AND VIDEO CAME OUT AND IT WAS--

IT WAS A SMALLER PARTY.

YOU DIDN'T NEED THE CREW

YOU HAD FOR 35 MILLIMETER.

YOU HAD WAY SMALLER CREW, AND

YOU WOULD JUST SORT OF LOAD IT

IN A VAN, SHOW UP AT A LOCATION,

SHOT YOUR FOUR OR FIVE SCENES

AND RAN OUT THE DOOR,

YOU WERE DONE.

AND THE DRUGS WERE OKAY.

AND-- AND TOWARD THE END,

IT REALLY JUST GOT, "HOW FAST

CAN YOU CRANK IT OUT AND GET IT

BACK TO ME AND I GOTTA PEDAL

IT..." AND THE DRUGS SUCKED.

>> IT'S HARD TO SAY WHERE THE

PORN INDUSTRY WILL GO FROM HERE.

THE INTERNET ERA SEEMS TO DEMAND

A RETURN TO THE LOOPS AND

VIGNETTES THAT GAVE BIRTH TO THE

EROTIC FILM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IT'S A SHAME TO THINK THAT THIS

LIST OF THE GREATEST ADULT

MOVIES MAYBE THE LAST

OF ITS KIND.

BUT THE FUTURE IS HARD TO SEE.

AND MAYBE THE ADULT FEATURE WILL

SURPRISE US WITH ITS LONGEVITY.

I'M CHANEL PRESTON, GOOD NIGHT.

♪♪

>> IF THE BRILLIANT SWEDISH

FILMMAKER INGMAR BERGMAN EVER

MADE AN X-RATED MOTION PICTURE,

IT WOULD LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS.

>> "PRISONER OF PARADISE" STARS

SUCH FILM GREATS AS SEKA.

(LAUGHING)

>> FIBBER.

>> AMERICAN, I SAID OVER HERE!

FUCK ME!

>> AMERICAN GIRLS ARE LOVELY

CREATURES.

>> ILSA, TIE HER UP!

>> DON'T YOU COME IN ME,

YOU AMERICAN SWINE.

>> YOU'D NEVER GUESS WHAT THESE

SEXY YOUNG LADIES IN THE

FUNNY-LOOKING UNIFORMS

DO FOR A LIVING.

>> GARAGE GIRLS, GOOD MORNING.

>> WATCH AS THESE GORGEOUS

GARAGE GIRLS MIX BUSINESS

AND PLEASURE AS THEY CLIMB

THEIR WAY TO THE TOP.

>> HERE SHE COMES,

THE INCREDIBLE, VOLUPTUOUS

LESLIE BOVEE IN HER MOST

ELECTRIFYING ROLE AS

"THE SENATOR'S DAUGHTER."

CO-STARRING THE FABULOUS

JOHN HOLMES.

>> YOU ARE AN EROTIC

FILM STAR NOW LACKING

AN ESSENTIAL MEMBER,

BUT WE CAN REBUILD IT.

>> "THE SENATOR'S DAUGHTER"

COMING TO THIS THEATER SOON.

(MAN LAUGHING)

>> I'M STILL SORE HERE FROM WHAT

THE DEVIL DID TO ME.

HE EVEN MADE IT TALK.

>> IN THIS CASE, CURIOSITY

DIDN'T KILL THE CAT.

>> DO YOU WANT TO FIND OUT

WHAT LOVE IS ALL ABOUT?

>> HONEY, I'M ALMOST READY.

>> I'M GETTING READY.

>> DON'T MISS

"HERE COMES THE BRIDE."

>> COMING SOON TO THIS THEATER,

"THE PLEASURE PALACE."

THE NEWEST X-RATED FILM

FROM CARTER STEVENS.

THE MAN WHO GAVE YOU SUCH FILMS

AS "LICKITY-SPLIT", "THE LOVE

COUCH," AND "TEENAGE TWINS."

>> SUZIE SUPERSTAR.

>> ♪ BABY TAKE OFF ♪

♪ YOUR CLOTHES ♪

♪ MAKE LOVE TO ME ♪♪

>> GOD DAMN IT, YOU KNOW HOW

HORNY I GET WHEN I SING.

>> FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN

TWO SEXY 16-YEAR-OLD GIRLS

TAKE THEIR PARENTS CAR

AND GO AWAY FOR THE WEEKEND.

>> THIS IS EXCITING.

I'VE NEVER BEEN TO AN ORGY

BEFORE.

>> NEITHER HAVE I.

WHAT'S AN ORGY?

>> "NAKED AFTERNOON" IS MORE

THAN EXPLICIT DRAMA.

IT IS THE REAL STORY OF

A GENUINE HONEST-TO-GOD

WOMAN-CHILD.

>> HOLLYWOOD IN THE 30s

IN A BIG, BRIGHT, AND BUBBLING

BLOCKBUSTER OF A MOVIE.

YOU'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE

"PINK CHAMPAGNE."

YOU GOTTA SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT.