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>> Announcer: TONIGHT ON "LATE
NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS" ‐‐
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HANK AZARIA.
HOST OF "JUSTICE IN AMERICA,"
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JOURNALIST AND LAWYER,
JOSIE DUFFY RICE
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AN ALL NEW "CLOSER LOOK.
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FEATURING THE 8G BAND WITH
FRED ARMISEN
AND NOW, SETH MEYERS
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TONIGHT?
THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO STAY
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HOME
IT'S CRAZY SEEING ALL THOSE
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PHOTOS OF PEOPLE OUT PARTYING AT
BARS
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DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW MUCH FUN
IT IS TO LOCK YOURSELF IN YOUR
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ATTIC AND DRINK ALONE?
AND IF YOU'RE AT A BAR RIGHT NOW
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AND I'M PLAYING ON A CORNER TV
WITHOUT VOLUME, JUST LET ME
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SAY ‐‐
LET'S GET TO THE NEWS.
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RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN
REPORTEDLY HAD A DISINFECTANT
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TUNNEL INSTALLED IN HIS HOME TO
PROTECT HIM FROM CORONAVIRUS
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AND NOW WE GO LIVE TO PRESIDENT
TRUMP SO HE CAN MAKE FUN OF
PUTIN FOR BEING A SNOWFLAKE.
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>> Seth: HUH, HE'S PROBABLY JUST
THINKING OF A CLEVER BURN, YOU
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KNOW
WE'LL COME BACK TO HIM
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DURING HIS SPEECH YESTERDAY
ABOUT POLICE REFORM, PRESIDENT
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TRUMP FALSELY SUGGESTED THAT
SCIENTISTS HAVE DEVELOPED A
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VACCINE FOR AIDS
MAN, YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO LIE,
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BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE HE'S
GOING WITH IT OR WHEN IT'S GOING
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TO HAPPEN.
HE'LL BE GIVING A SPEECH ON TAX
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CUTS AND THROW IN "BY THE WAY,
CELL PHONES CAN GET YOU
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PREGNANT
ANYWAY, BACK TO THE THING.
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THAT'S RIGHT
PRESIDENT TRUMP FALSELY
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SUGGESTED THAT SCIENTISTS HAVE
DEVELOPED A VACCINE FOR AIDS
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THOUGH, KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS
THE SAME GUY WHO ASKED
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BILL GATES THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN HIV AND HPV TWICE.
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SO HE'S DEFINITELY CONFUSING IT
WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
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ACHES, MAYBE
"IT'S NOT REALLY A VACCINE, BUT
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I TAKE ADVIL WHEN I HAVE MINOR
AIDS AND PAINS."
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OKAY
SO, PRESIDENT TRUMP, DID YOU ‐‐
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DID YOU THINK OF A CLEVER WAY TO
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MAKE FUN OF PUTIN FOR HIS
DISINFECTANT TUNNEL YET?
LET'S HEAR THE ZINGER.
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>> Seth: ALL RIGHT
WELL, YOU CAN DEFINITELY TELL
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HE'S COOKING UP A GOOD ONE
I CAN FEEL IT.
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ALL RIGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT
WE'LL CHECK BACK
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VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE WROTE
A "WALL STREET JOURNAL" OP‐ED
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YESTERDAY TITLED "THERE ISN'T A
CORONAVIRUS 'SECOND WAVE.'
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WELL, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE SAYING
THERE ISN'T A SEQUEL TO "BLACK
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PANTHER.
THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE
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BUT IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN
BIGGER
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AND YOU'RE GOING TO HATE IT.
SENATE MAJORITY LEADER
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MITCH McCONNELL SAID YESTERDAY
HE WAS PERSONALLY OKAY WITH
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RENAMING MILITARY BASES THAT ARE
NAMED AFTER CONFEDERATE LEADERS
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ADDING, QUOTE, "AND I AM A
DESCENDANT OF A CONFEDERATE
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VETERAN.
DESCENDANT OR, LIKE, SON OF?
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INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI SAID IN A NEW
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INTERVIEW THAT HE HAD NOT SPOKEN
TO PRESIDENT TRUMP IN TWO WEEKS.
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AND JUST LOOK AT THE RESULTS
"I THINK ‐‐ OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T
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THINK IT WILL WORK WITH
EVERYBODY, BUT YOU CAN AVOID
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HIM.
IT'S GOOD FOR YOUR SKIN.
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QUAKER OATS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY
IT WILL GIVE AUNT JEMIMA SYRUP A
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NEW NAME AND IMAGE BECAUSE IT
WAS ORIGINALLY BASED ON A RACIAL
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STEREOTYPE
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOW CALLED
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AUNT KAYLEE, WITH TWO Es
IS THAT BETTER
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I THINK ‐‐ I DON'T KNOW, IT'S
HARD TO TELL
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GARTH BROOKS HAS ANNOUNCED HE
WILL HOLD A CONCERT AT THE END
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OF THE MONTH THAT WILL BE PLAYED
AT DRIVE‐IN MOVIE THEATERS
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ACROSS THE COUNTRY
BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD
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GARTH'S MUSIC UNTIL YOU'VE HEARD
IT THROUGH A 50‐YEAR‐OLD SPEAKER
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FULL OF SPIDER EGGS HANGING ON
ONE SIDE OF YOUR CAR
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ALL RIGHT, DONALD.
YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH TIME
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COME UP WITH A GREAT INSULT FOR
PUTIN IN HIS DISINFECTANT
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TUNNEL
LET'S HEAR IT.
GIVE HIM THE BUSINESS.
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>> I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO
GET
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ALONG WITH RUSSIA.
>> Seth: HMM, YOU ARE ‐‐ YOU ARE
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LOSING YOUR TOUCH, BRO, AND I'M
NOT MAD, JUST DISAPPOINTED
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AND FINALLY, OFFICIALS IN
CALIFORNIA ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY
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THAT A STATUE OF
CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS WILL BE
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REMOVED FROM THE STATE CAPITOL
ROTUNDA.
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SAID THE STATUE, "CALIFORNIA
I THOUGHT THIS WAS INDONESIA."
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THAT'S HOW YOU BURN SOMEONE,
TRUMPY
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THE OLD COLUMBUS BURN.
DO YOU LIKE THAT ONE,
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PEDRO MARTINEZ
YEAH, HE LIKED IT.
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THAT WAS THE MONOLOGUE
WE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU
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TONIGHT.
FROM "BROCKMIRE" AND OF COURSE,
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"THE SIMPSONS," THE FANTASTIC
HANK AZARIA IS MY GUEST.
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PLUS, THE HOST OF THE POPULAR
PODCAST "JUSTICE IN AMERICA,"
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JOSIE DUFFY RICE WILL BE HERE.
BUT FIRST, "A CLOSER LOOK.
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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS
DECIDED TO JUST MOVE ON FROM THE
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CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC AND PRETEND
IT'S OVER, EVEN THOUGH, IN
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REALITY, IT'S STILL HERE, AND
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GETTING WORSE.
FOR MORE ON THIS, IT'S TIME FOR
"A CLOSER LOOK."
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♪
>> Seth: THE NATION HAS
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OBVIOUSLY BEEN FOCUSED ON THE
WEEKS OF SUSTAINED MASS
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DEMONSTRATIONS AGAINST SYSTEMIC
RACISM AND POLICE BRUTALITY.
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BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, THE
PANDEMIC IS STILL HERE, IT
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HASN'T GONE ANYWHERE
THE CORONAVIRUS IS LIKE MY COPY
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OF "THE THORN BIRDS.
IT HASN'T BEEN ON MY SIDE TABLE
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FOR A FEW WEEKS, BUT THAT
DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS GONE
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FOREVER.
IT WAS JUST OFF CAMERA
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AND NOW IT'S BACK.
BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU WHAT'S NOT
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BACK IS LABORED BITS WHERE I ADD
BOOKS OR CHANGE THE TITLES
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AND, LOOK, THERE WAS NEVER A
GOOD TIME TO HAVE THE WORLD'S
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DUMBEST MAN AS PRESIDENT, BUT
THE TIMING COULD NOT BE WORSE
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RIGHT NOW AS THE COUNTRY FACES
SOME OF ITS WEIGHTIEST AND MOST
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DIFFICULT CHALLENGES IN OUR
LIFETIMES.
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THERE ARE MASS DEMONSTRATIONS
AGAINST SYSTEMIC RACISM AND
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POLICE BRUTALITY, UNEMPLOYMENT
IS AT ITS HIGHEST SINCE THE
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GREAT DEPRESSION, NORTH KOREA
JUST BLEW SOMETHING UP
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TENSIONS ARE ESCALATING BETWEEN
INDIA AND CHINA.
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THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC IS
STILL RAGING
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AND THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTS
THAT TOILETS CAN SPRAY PLUMES OF
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CORONAVIRUS INTO THE AIR AND
INFECT THE NEXT PERSON WHO USES
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THEM
NOW, WE CAN'T EVEN ENJOY TOILET
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PLUMES
THE ONLY THING I HAD LEFT TO
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LOOK FORWARD TO THIS SUMMER WAS
LOADING THE KIDS INTO THE VAN
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AND TAKING THEM ON A
CROSS‐COUNTRY TRIP TO SEE
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AMERICA'S MOST PICTURESQUE
TOILET PLUMES.
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2020 SUCKS
AND MAY I SAY, THIS IS THE FIRST
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DENT IN THE OTHERWISE STERLING
REPUTATION OF PORT‐A‐POTTYS.
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ALSO, THAT'S GOTTA BE THE MOST
EMBARRASSING WAY TO CATCH
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CORONAVIRUS.
"WERE YOU NEAR ANY LARGE
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CROWDS?"
"NO, BUT I MAYBE HUFFED A
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PLUME.
SO, THINGS ARE BAD
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IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, THE
VERY MINIMUM WE SHOULD EXPECT
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FROM OUR LEADERS IS AN ABILITY
TO PROVIDE US WITH A SHARED
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SENSE OF REALITY TO GIVE US ALL
THE FACTS.
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BUT THE PRESIDENT, HE DOESN'T
WANT TO DO THAT.
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IN FACT, HE'S REPEATEDLY
EXPRESSED AN INTEREST THIS WEEK
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IN HIDING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE
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CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC, SUGGESTING
THAT IF WE JUST STOPPED TESTING,
IT WOULD "GO AWAY.
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ATTRIBUTED AN INCREASE IN CASES
IN SOME STATES TO ADVANCED
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TESTING.
IN A TWEET HE SAID, QUOTE,
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WITHOUT TESTING OR WEAK TESTING,
WE WOULD BE SHOWING ALMOST NO
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CASES.
TESTING IS A DOUBLE‐EDGED SWORD
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MAKING US LOOK BAD, BUT GOOD TO
HAVE
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>> OUR TESTING IS SO FAR
ADVANCED, IT'S SO MUCH BIGGER
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AND BETTER THAN ANY OTHER
COUNTRY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
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MORE CASES
WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE MORE
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CASES.
AS I SAID THIS MORNING, THAT'S
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PROBABLY THE DOWNSIDE OF HAVING
GOOD TESTING IS YOU FIND A LOT
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OF CASES THAT OTHER COUNTRIES
WHO DON'T EVEN TEST DON'T HAVE
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IF YOU DON'T TEST, YOU DON'T
HAVE ANY CASES
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IF WE STOPPED TESTING RIGHT NOW,
WE'D HAVE VERY FEW CASES, IF
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ANY.
>> Seth: I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE
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TO EXPLAIN THIS.
IF WE STOP TESTING, THAT
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WOULDN'T MEAN THE CASES WENT
AWAY
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THAT WOULD JUST MEAN WE DON'T
KNOW ABOUT THEM.
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WHEN YOU PLAY PEEK‐A‐BOO WITH A
BABY, THE BABY CAN'T SEE YOU,
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BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU
ACTUALLY DISAPPEARED
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DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN PEOPLE WERE
MAKING THOSE VIRAL VIDEOS WHEN
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THEY STAND BEHIND A COVER IN
FRONT OF THEIR DOG, THEN DROP
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THE BLANKET AND RUN AND AWAY,
AND THE DOG THINKS THEY
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DISAPPEARED?
THAT'S TRUMP
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"WHAT THE HELL
HE WAS JUST STANDING BEHIND THE
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BLANKET.
DAMN YOU TO HELL, GHOST
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BLANKET!
"YOU CALLED FOR ME, SIR?
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"NOT YOU, GHOST BLANKET, THE
OTHER GHOST BLANKET.
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NOW, THIS IS A SENTIMENT TRUMP
HAS REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES, IF
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ONLY WE COULD STOP TESTING, WE'D
LOOK SO MUCH BETTER, WHICH IS
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JUST INSANE.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU WENT TO YOUR
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OPTOMETRIST AND THEY SAID "I
COULD GIVE YOU AN EYE EXAM, BUT
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THEN YOU'D NEED GLASSES TO
DRIVE.
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THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T NEED
GLASSES.
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IT JUST MEANS YOU'LL PROBABLY
GET IN MORE CAR ACCIDENTS THAN
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BILLY JOEL
AND THAT'S ANOTHER BILLY JOEL
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CAR CRASH JOKE
[ CAR CRASHING ]
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AND, YES, THAT IS A REFERENCE
THAT IS 16 YEARS OLD, WHICH
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MEANS IF THAT REFERENCE WERE A
PERSON, THEY WOULD HAVE NO IDEA
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WHO BILLY JOEL IS.
AND IF YOU'RE A PERSON WHO IS
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SURPRISED THAT I'M SILL MAKING
BILLY JOEL CAR CRASH JOKES
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IN 2020, ALL I CAN SAY IS ‐‐
♪ YOU OUTTA KNOW BY NOW
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WE ARE HAVING FU
IN OUR ATTIC ♪
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NOW TRUMP IS, IN HIS OWN UNIQUE
WAY, BREATHTAKINGLY DUMB
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BUT THE REST OF HIS
ADMINISTRATION IS JUST AS
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COMMITTED TO THIS CORONAVIRUS
COVER‐UP AS HE IS, EVEN IF THEY
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MANAGE TO BE A LITTLE MORE
SUBTLE ABOUT IT.
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VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE, FOR
EXAMPLE, URGED GOVERNORS ON A
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CALL THIS WEEK TO LIE ABOUT THE
INCREASING NUMBER OF CORONAVIRUS
CASES.
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>> ACCORDING TO THE "NEW YORK
TIMES" AT A CONFERENCE CALL, THE
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V.P. URGED GOVERNORS TO, QUOTE,
CONTINUE TO EXPLAIN TO YOUR
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CITIZENS THE MAGNITUDE OF
INCREASE IN TESTING AND THAT IN
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MOST OF THE CASES WHERE WE ARE
SEEING SOME MARGINAL RISE IN
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NUMBER, THAT'S MORE A RESULT OF
THE EXTRAORDINARY WORK YOU'RE
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DOING.
>> Seth: THE IDEA THAT CASES ARE
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GOING UP BECAUSE TESTING HAS
INCREASED IS A LIE
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AND, SURE, MIKE PENCE MIGHT LOOK
MORE CONVINCING THAN TRUMP WHEN
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HE LIES.
HE SHAKES HIS HEAD AND FURROWS
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HIS BROW LIKE A COMMUNITY
THEATER ACTOR LOOKING EVEN MORE
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THE PART OF A STATESMAN, THANKS
TO SHARING A TWO‐SHOT WITH A MAN
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WHO LOOKS LIKE HE'S TRYING TO
GET YOU TO PLAY THE RING TOSS
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DOWN ON THE CONEY ISLAND
BOARDWALK.
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BUT IT'S STILL A LIE
THE INCREASE IN TESTING IS NOT
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THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE IN
POSITIVES.
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IN FACT, "IN AT LEAST 14 STATES,
POSITIVE CASES HAVE OUTSTRIPPED
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THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF TESTS THAT
HAVE BEEN ADMINISTERED."
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JUST LOOK AT THIS MAP FROM THE
WEBSITE COVIDEXITSTRATEGY.ORG
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WITH STATES THAT ARE TRENDING
POORLY IN RED.
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JUST BECAUSE TRUMP HAS GOTTEN
BORED WITH SOMETHING DOESN'T
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MEAN IT'S GONE AWAY.
YOU THINK HE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST
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LEARNED THAT LESSON FROM THESE
TWO.
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"WHAT ARE YOU TWO LOSERS DOING
HERE
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I THOUGHT YOU DISAPPEARED.
"NO, DAD, WE WENT TO SUMMER
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CAMP."
"I THOUGHT IT WAS PERMANENT
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SUMMER CAMP.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS
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EVEN BEEN CONTRADICTED BY THEIR
OWN SCIENTISTS
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ON TUESDAY DR. ANTHONY FAUCI
SAID THE INCREASE IN CASES
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"CANNOT BE EXPLAINED BY
INCREASED TESTING.
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WHICH IS JUST OBVIOUSLY TRUE
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MORE LIKELY
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TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AN
INCREASE OF CASES OF AN
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INFECTIOUS DISEASE
INCREASED TESTING, OR RE‐OPENING
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GYMS, MALLS, BARBERSHOPS,
BOWLING ALLEYS, MASSAGE PARLORS,
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AND EVERYONE'S FAVORITE LOCAL
TAVERN "O'COUGHAGINS"?
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AND, YET, THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IS COMMITTED TO
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THE LIE THAT THE CORONAVIRUS HAS
JUST DISAPPEARED, WHEN IN
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REALITY IT NEVER WENT AWAY, AND
IT IS, IN FACT, GETTING WORSE.
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YESTERDAY, PENCE PUBLISHED AN
OP‐ED IN THE "WALL STREET
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JOURNAL" TITLED "THERE ISN'T A
CORONAVIRUS 'SECOND WAVE.'
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YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
DONE WITH THE FIRST WAVE
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THAT'S LIKE SERVING SOMEONE AN
UNDERCOOKED HAMBURGER, AND WHILE
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THEY'RE STILL EATING IT, SAYING,
"SEE, THERE'S NO DIARRHEA!
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THERE WILL BE, THERE JUST ISN'T
ANY YET.
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IN FACT, WE HAVE FAILED
MISERABLY COMPARED TO MOST OTHER
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DEVELOPED NATIONS.
LOOK AT THIS CHART COMPARING OUR
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CURVE OF CONFIRMED CASES TO THE
EUROPEAN UNION
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OR LOOK AT THESE CURVES FROM THE
"NEW YORK TIMES" FOR THREE
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EUROPEAN COUNTRIES THAT SAW
MAJOR OUTBREAKS, AND HAVE SINCE
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SUPPRESSED THOSE OUTBREAKS AND
BENT THEIR CURVES ALL THE WAY
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BACK DOWN.
NOW, ADD IN THE UNITED STATES.
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THE U. S. IS A PLATEAU, AND
ITALY, SPAIN, AND GERMANY ALL
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HAVE DOWNWARD SLOPES PROVING
SOMETHING I'VE LONG SAID, "THE
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SKIING IS BETTER IN EUROPE
IT JUST IS!"
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WE SHOULD LEARN FROM THEM.
INSTEAD, OUR LEADERS CONTINUE TO
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POLITICIZE EVEN BASIC MEASURES
THAT WE KNOW COULD STEM THE
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SPREAD OF THE VIRUS LIKE
MASK‐WEARING
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TRUMP AND PENCE HAVE TURNED
MASK‐WEARING INTO A DUMB,
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CONSERVATIVE CULTURE WAR ISSUE
BY REPEATEDLY REFUSING TO WEAR
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ONE IN PUBLIC.
AND PENCE DID IT AGAIN DURING A
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TRIP TO A RESTAURANT IN IOWA ON
TUESDAY.
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DUDE, JUST BE POLITE AND WEAR
THE MASK
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WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE SUCH A
DICK ABOUT EVERYTHING?
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DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO
LOOK STUPID WITH A MASK?
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THE WORLD CAN STILL GO ON, EVEN
IF WE CAN'T SEE YOUR DUMB LITTLE
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HYPHEN MOUTH
IF YOU PUT A BLANK PIECE OF
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PAPER OVER YOUR FACE, NO ONE
WOULD KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
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YOU ALREADY HAVE RESTING MASK
FACE
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IN FACT, TRUMP SEEMS INTENT ON
MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE BY
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HOLDING A GIANT INDOOR RALLY ON
SATURDAY IN TULSA, A HOT SPOT
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WHERE CASES ARE SPIKING AND
WHERE THE DIRECTOR OF THE TULSA
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HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS SAID HE
WISHES TRUMP WOULD POSTPONE THE
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RALLY.
TRUMP NONETHELESS DOUBLED DOWN
ON TWITTER
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NOTION ON TWITTER, AND HE
REJECTS IT, SAYING, "THE FAR
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LEFT FAKE NEWS MEDIA, WHICH HAD
NO COVID PROBLEMS WITH THE
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RIOTERS AND LOOTERS DESTROYING
DEMOCRAT‐RUN CITIES, IS TRYING
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TO COVID‐SHAME US ON OUR BIG
RALLIES.
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WON'T WORK."
>> Seth: YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL
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US YOU'RE IMMUNE TO SHAME.
WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR WORK.
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IT IS CLEAR TO ALL OF US THAT
YOU HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR
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SHAME ANTIBODIES
ALSO, DON'T COMPARE A GIANT
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INDOOR RALLY TO A PROTEST.
THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE
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BETWEEN AN OUTDOOR GATHERING
WHERE EVERYONE'S WEARING A MASK
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AND AN INDOOR CAMPAIGN
RALLY/MOSH‐PIT IN AN ARENA WITH
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LIMITED VENTILATION WHERE
EVERYONE'S CHEEK TO CHEEK
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CHANTING, "BUILD THAT WALL."
ALSO, NO ONE IS LESS OF AN
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ESSENTIAL WORKER THAN A TRUMP
RALLY ATTENDEE
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YOU'VE BEEN CHANTING "BUILD THAT
WALL" FOR FIVE YEARS
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NADA
SO, TRUMP IS BOTH MALEVOLENT AND
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DUMB
HOLLYWOOD HAS DONE US A REAL
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DISSERVICE TRYING TO CONVINCE US
THAT EVIL PEOPLE ARE ALL
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GENIUSES
THEY'RE ALWAYS SUAVE AND
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WELL‐SPOKEN, AND A LOT OF THEM
HAVE PhDs.
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DR. NO, DR. DOOM, DR. OCTOPUS.
ALL TRUMP HAS IS A MASTERS
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DEGREE IN COPYING OFF THE KID IN
FRONT OF HIM
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NOT ONLY DOES HE NOT KNOW HOW
CORONAVIRUS TESTING WORKS, HE
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DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW HIS OWN
INDUSTRY, REAL ESTATE, WORKS
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HERE HE IS AT A ROUNDTABLE EVENT
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LAST WEEK DESCRIBING HOW, I
GUESS, SOME BUILDINGS ARE NICER
AND ALSO CHEAPER THAN OTHERS
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>> SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE A
BUILDING THAT COSTS LESS MONEY
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THAN ANOTHER BUILDING THAT COSTS
MORE BECAUSE THE ONE THAT BUILT
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THE ONE THAT COSTS MORE, THIS
ONE LOOKS BETTER
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THE ONE THAT'S CHEAPER, IT LOOKS
BETTER
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THEY SAY HOW MUCH MORE DID YOU
SPEND FOR THAT BUILDING?
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ACTUALLY WE SPENT LESS
YOU CAN DO THAT.
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IT'S CALLED, YOU HAVE TO KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
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>> Seth: HE SOUNDS LIKE A NEW
YORK CITY TOUR GUIDE WHO FORGOT
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HIS NOTE CARDS
"UH, INTERESTING FACT.
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SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE A BUILDING
THAT, YOU KNOW, COSTS LESS MONEY
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THAN ANOTHER BUILDING BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT BUILT THE
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ONE THAT COSTS MORE, THIS ONE'S
CHEAPER.
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AND, UH, M&M STORE!"
HE'S LIKE A DUMBER VERSION THAN
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THE KID FROM "JERRY MAGUIRE.
"DID YOU KNOW THAT SOMETIMES
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BUILDINGS THAT COST LESS LOOK
NICER?!"
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OF COURSE, THE CORE OF WHAT HE
WAS SAYING WAS, "IF YOU MAKE A
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CHEAP THING LOOK NICE, PEOPLE
WILL PAY MORE, AND BY THE TIME
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THEY REALIZE IT'S CHEAP, YOU
HAVE THEIR MONEY, AND IT'S TOO
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LATE TO DO ANYTHING.
TRUMP STYLE!
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THE ONLY ‐‐ THE ONLY SMART MOVE
TRUMP EVER MADE AS A BUILDER WAS
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GIVING TRUMP TOWER AN ESCALATOR
INSTEAD OF A RAMP.
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THE COURSE OF HISTORY WOULD'VE
BEEN VERY DIFFERENT IF THAT HAD
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BEEN A RAMP.
"WE ARE WAITING ON DONALD TRUMP,
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WHO IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE HIS
BID FOR THE PRESIDENCY, AND HERE
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HE IS NOW AT THE TOP OF THE
FAMOUS TRUMP TOWER RAMP.
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HEADING DOWN FAIRLY GINGERLY
AND, OH, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S
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PICKING UP SOME SPEED.
AND BASED ON HIS EXPRESSION,
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THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE PLAN.
OH, YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE
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WHITENESS OF HIS KNUCKLES AS
THEY GRASP HELPLESSLY AT THE
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RAILING.
OH, HE'S DOWN!
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HE'S DOWN, AND HE HAS TAKEN
MELANIA WITH HIM, AND I DO NOT
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SPEAK SLOVENIAN, BUT THOSE
HAVE ‐‐ THOSE JUST HAVE TO BE
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CURSE WORDS.
IF YOU ARE JUST NOW JOINING US,
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DONALD TRUMP, EXPECTED TO
ANNOUNCE A PRESIDENTIAL RUN, HAS
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EATEN IT HARD ON THE RAMP.
TRUMP'S BRAIN IS ONLY CAPABLE OF
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THINKING IN TRANSACTIONS
HIS ONLY INTEREST, IN ANY
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SITUATION, IS WHAT'S IN IT FOR
HIM.
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THAT'S WHY HE WISHES HE COULD
JUST STOP TESTING FOR
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CORONAVIRUS.
WE'VE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME
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AGAIN.
FOR EXAMPLE, TRUMP'S EX‐NATIONAL
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SECURITY ADVISER, JOHN BOLTON,
WHO COURAGEOUSLY HID BEHIND HIS
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MUSTACHE, RATHER THAN TESTIFY IN
TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, HAS
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ALLEGED IN A NEW TELL‐ALL BOOK
THAT NOT ONLY DID TRUMP SEEK TO
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LEVERAGE AID TO UKRAINE TO HELP
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HIS RE‐ELECTION BID, BUT THAT
TRUMP DID SIMILAR STUFF ALL THE
TIME
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>> ANOTHER FORMER AIDE IS TAKING
AIM AT PRESIDENT TRUMP
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JOHN BOLTON WHO SERVED AS
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER SAYS
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IN A NEW BOOK THE PRESIDENT WAS
CONCERNED ONLY WITH GETTING
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RE‐ELECTED AND THAT MISCONDUCT
IN HIS FOREIGN POLICY WENT
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BEYOND UKRAINE
>> THE BOOK WHICH IS TITLED "THE
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ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED: A WHITE
HOUSE MEMOIR," WAS SLATED TO
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COME OUT NEXT WEEK
THE PUBLISHER SAYS THE BOOK IS,
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QUOTE, A PRECISE RENDERING OF
HIS DAYS IN AND AROUND THE OVAL
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OFFICE
WHAT BOLTON SAW ASTONISHED HIM
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A PRESIDENT FOR WHOM GETTING
RE‐ELECTED WAS THE ONLY THING
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THAT MATTERED, EVEN IF IT MEANT
ENDANGERING OR WEAKENING THE
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NATION
>> Seth: WHAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF
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BEING SO SHOCKED YOU SPIT OUT
WATER?
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"DONALD TRUMP IS ONLY DRIVEN BY
SELF‐INTEREST?
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AND THANKS FOR TELLING US NOW.
I MEAN, THAT'S INFORMATION THAT
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WOULD HAVE BEEN WAY MORE HELPFUL
TO US SIX MONTHS AGO DURING THE
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IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
YOU'RE LIKE A GUY WHO SEES HIS
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NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE ON FIRE
AND INSTEAD OF CALLING 9‐1‐1,
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WRITES A BOOK CALLED, "HEY, THAT
HOUSE IS ON FIRE!"
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"BOB, I WROTE A BOOK ABOUT YOUR
HOUSE BEING ON FIRE.
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I WOULD LOVE TO SEND IT TO YOU,
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE BURNED
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DOWN
SO WHERE ARE YOU GUYS NOW, A
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HOTEL?
THERE'S NO ONE, NO ONE TO ROOT
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FOR IN A TRUMP VERSUS BOLTON
FIGHT.
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THEY'RE BOTH MEGALOMANIAC
SOCIOPATHS LOOKING OUT FOR
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THEMSELVES
IT'S A REAL "ALIEN VERSUS
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PREDATOR" SITUATION.
EXCEPT ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO
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STOP ALIEN TRUMP IS INSTALL A
RAMP
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"HE'S GETTING CLOSER
HE'S GETTING CLOSER!
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OH, HE'S SLOWING DOWN.
OH, HE'S SLOWING DOWN.
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OKAY, HE'S SLOWING WAY DOWN.
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK WE'RE
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GOOD
I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO MOVE
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AROUND OUR SPACESHIP AS WE DID
BEFORE THIS ALIEN INFESTATION.
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THE PRESIDENT AND HIS TEAM ARE
LYING ABOUT THE ONGOING
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CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC IN AN
ATTEMPT TO COVER IT UP AND
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PRETEND IT'S OVER, WHEN, IN
REALITY, IT'S GETTING WORSE.
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THE PANDEMIC HAS LAID BARE THE
WEAKNESSES OF OUR INSTITUTIONS
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AND PROVEN ONCE AGAIN THAT IN
ORDER TO BE PRESIDENT, AT THE
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VERY LEAST ‐
>> YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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DOING.
>> Seth: THIS HAS BEEN "A CLOSER
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LOOK."
♪
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AS NEW YORK STRUGGLES TO REOPEN,
REMEMBER THAT WE'RE STILL A CITY
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IN CRISIS, AND CITY HARVEST HAS
BEEN STEPPING UP TO MEET THE
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INCREASED NEED
THERE'S A WEBSITE BELOW TO
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DONATE
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH
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HANK AZARIA.
♪
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>> Seth: OUR FIRST GUEST TONIGHT
IS AN EMMY AWARD‐WINNING ACTOR
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YOU KNOW FROM HIS WORK IN "THE
BIRDCAGE," "RAY DONOVAN," AND
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"THE SIMPSONS.
ALL FOUR SEASONS OF HIS SHOW,
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"BROCKMIRE," ARE STREAMING ON
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HULU NOW
HERE'S MY CONVERSATION WITH
HANK AZARIA.
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>> Seth: WELCOME BACK, HANK.
HOW ARE YOU?
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>> I'M HANGING IN THERE, SETH.
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
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>> Seth: I'M DOING ALL RIGHT
I WANT TO START BY TALKING ABOUT
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THE METS
USUALLY WE WOULD BE IN A
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COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PART OF THE
SEASON
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YOU'RE BOTH A METS' FAN AND A
KNICKS' FAN.
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AND WITH THOSE TEAMS, HAS THE
PAUSE ON LIVE SPORTS BEEN GOOD
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FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH, OR DO
YOU STILL DESPERATELY MISS IT?
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>> BOTH.
I MEAN, I SAW SOMEBODY POSTED
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ONLINE YESTERDAY, LIKE, WOW, I
WATCHED A MOVIE TONIGHT THAT I
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ENJOYED, WHERE NORMALLY I WOULD
JUST HAVE FREAKED OUT AND GOT
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WILDLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE METS.
I MEAN, WHAT HAVE I BEEN
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THINKING ALL THESE YEARS
[ LAUGHTER ]
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PEACE IN MY LIFE
YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE ONE
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HAND, IT'S A RELIEF NOT TO WATCH
THE KNICKS AND METS FAIL
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MISERABLY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I'D SORT OF
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GIVE ANYTHING TO WATCH THEM FAIL
MISERABLY.
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>> Seth: YEAH.
MY FATHER‐IN‐LAW LOVES MUSIC THE
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WAY I LOVE SPORTS.
AND I REALIZED THAT WHEN HE GOES
385
00:18:28,407 --> 00:18:30,142
TO A CONCERT, THERE'S NEVER A
CHANCE THAT HE'S GOING TO LEAVE
386
00:18:30,142 --> 00:18:31,777
UPSET.
LIKE THE BAND IS GOING TO PLAY
387
00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:34,847
THE HITS
WHERE AS, JUST YOU'RE FLIPPING A
388
00:18:34,847 --> 00:18:38,251
COIN WHEN YOU GO TO SEE A SPORTS
GAME
389
00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:39,652
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
"BROCKMIRE."
390
00:18:39,652 --> 00:18:44,357
AND I WANT TO GET TO LIKE HOW
THE CHARACTER HAS EVOLVED.
391
00:18:44,357 --> 00:18:46,459
BUT THIS STARTED AS SORT OF A
CLASSIC SKETCH CHARACTER THAT
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00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,628
HAS NOW, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE,
ENDURED FOUR SEASONS ON
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TELEVISION
BUT HOW DID YOU FIRST COME UP
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00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:54,533
WITH THE CHARACTER
>> THIS IS THE VOICE OF
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00:18:54,533 --> 00:18:57,036
JIM BROCKMIRE.
I CALL IT THE GENERIC
396
00:18:57,036 --> 00:19:00,640
'70s BASEBALL ANNOUNCER VOICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS 15 YEARS
397
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,244
OLD.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE STORY
398
00:19:05,244 --> 00:19:07,747
AS JIM BROCKMIRE SAID.
I WAS 15 YEARS OLD, AND THE YEAR
399
00:19:07,747 --> 00:19:12,451
WAS 1979
AND RIGHT ABOUT THEN, IT STARTED
400
00:19:12,451 --> 00:19:15,087
OCCURRING TO ME THAT WHY DO ALL
THESE GUYS TALK THIS WAY
401
00:19:15,087 --> 00:19:17,590
DO THEY ALWAYS SOUND ‐‐ DO THEY
SOUND LIKE THIS IN THEIR
402
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:19,692
PERSONAL LIVES
LIKE WHEN THEY'RE DIRTY TALKING
403
00:19:19,692 --> 00:19:20,893
THEIR GOOD‐LADY WIVES DURING
SEX, DOES IT STILL COME OUT THIS
404
00:19:20,893 --> 00:19:22,962
WAY?
DO THEY SOUND THIS WAY WHEN
405
00:19:22,962 --> 00:19:27,099
THEY'RE WASTED
ALSO, HARRY SHEARER AND I AT
406
00:19:27,099 --> 00:19:30,169
"THE SIMPSONS" NOTICE ‐‐ WE TALK
A LOT.
407
00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:31,370
HE DOES AN AMAZING VIN SCULLY,
HARRY SHEARER.
408
00:19:31,370 --> 00:19:33,105
IT'S ONE OF THOSE IMPRESSIONS
THAT, LIKE, YOU CAN'T TELL THE
409
00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:36,709
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTUAL
VIN SCULLY AND HARRY SHEARER
410
00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:37,977
>> Seth: SURE.
>> AND WE NOTED THAT BASEBALL
411
00:19:37,977 --> 00:19:39,178
ANNOUNCERS CAN SAY PRETTY MUCH
WHATEVER THEY LIKE AS LONG AS
412
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:42,949
THEY GIVE THE COUNT AFTERWARDS,
YOU KNOW, SO
413
00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:48,854
"HEY, I SPENT MOST OF LAST
EVENING WITH AN 8 BALL OF
414
00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:51,958
COCAINE AND A PROSTITUTE
AS JOHNSON SWINGS AND MISSES AT
415
00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:56,929
THE BREAKING BALL, 0‐1."
SO, THAT BECAME, LIKE, THE COMIC
416
00:19:56,929 --> 00:19:58,431
PREMISE ‐‐ IS JUST, WHAT WEIRD
STUFF CAN YOU SAY AND GIVE THE
417
00:19:58,431 --> 00:20:03,269
COUNT, AND THEN, DO THESE GUYS
ALWAYS TALK LIKE THIS?
418
00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:07,640
AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY, YOU
KNOW, GIVEN YOUR "SNL" ROOTS
419
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,575
BY THE TIME I WAS ABOUT ‐‐ ABOUT
15 YEARS AGO MAYBE, LIKE, SO I
420
00:20:09,575 --> 00:20:12,511
MUST'VE BEEN IN MY EARLY 40s
I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE ON "SNL.
421
00:20:12,511 --> 00:20:20,987
I ALWAYS FELT LIKE MY SKILLSET
WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD
422
00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,621
>> Seth: VERY MUCH SO.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN VERY GOOD
423
00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:24,156
>> NEVER DID I HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY.
424
00:20:24,156 --> 00:20:26,292
AND I DON'T WRITE FOR MYSELF
VERY WELL.
425
00:20:26,292 --> 00:20:29,095
SO, IT JUST WASN'T A NATURAL FOR
ME
426
00:20:29,095 --> 00:20:31,497
AND SO, I WALKED INTO MY AGENT'S
OFFICE, I'M LIKE, "I'M NOT ON
427
00:20:31,497 --> 00:20:35,434
'SNL.'
WHERE CAN I HAVE THESE BUNCH OF
428
00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:37,403
CHARACTERS
WHERE CAN I DO THEM?
429
00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:38,604
AND THEY WERE, LIKE, "WELL, YOU
KNOW, WILL FERRELL CREATED
430
00:20:38,604 --> 00:20:41,440
"FUNNY OR DIE" FOR ALMOST
EXACTLY THIS PURPOSE."
431
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,609
>> Seth: AND IT REALLY DOES
SPEAK TO HOW FUNNY THE SKETCH
432
00:20:43,609 --> 00:20:46,245
WAS IN THE BEGINNING
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU
433
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:50,716
WATCH THE PILOT EPISODE, IT
FEELS LIKE SORT OF A SEX ROMP
434
00:20:50,716 --> 00:20:52,918
AND THIS FUNNY IDEA OF A GUY
COMING UNDONE.
435
00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:56,722
AND, YET, IT'S ‐‐ YOU KNOW, YOU
GUYS HAVE ATTACKED ADDICTION
436
00:20:56,722 --> 00:20:59,725
YOU'VE ATTACKED RELATIONSHIPS.
AND I MEAN IT'S MIND BLOWING TO
437
00:20:59,725 --> 00:21:02,328
ME THAT YOU DID THIS FOURTH
SEASON ‐
438
00:21:02,328 --> 00:21:04,630
OBVIOUSLY YOU FILMED IT BEFORE
ANY OF 2020 STARTED GETTING
439
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:07,566
CRAZY.
BUT YOU JUMPED BASICALLY 10, 15
440
00:21:07,566 --> 00:21:08,667
YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.
BASEBALL IS HANGING ON FOR DEAR
441
00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:20,546
LIFE
THE WORLD IS COMING UNDONE
442
00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:21,747
I MEAN, DO YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT
HOW FAR AHEAD OF THE CURVE YOU
443
00:21:21,747 --> 00:21:24,283
WERE AND HOW UNFORTUNATE THAT
YOU WERE SO RIGHT?
444
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:27,353
>> I THINK IT WAS WILDLY
PRECOGNITIVE, SEASON FOUR.
445
00:21:27,353 --> 00:21:31,157
YEAH, I MEAN, THE FIRST FIVE
MINUTES OF SEASON FOUR, YOU GET
446
00:21:31,157 --> 00:21:32,391
THIS, LIKE, FAUX "TODAY" SHOW
OPENING WHERE THERE'S A
447
00:21:32,391 --> 00:21:37,730
PANDEMIC
THERE'S RIOTING IN THE STREETS
448
00:21:37,730 --> 00:21:41,167
WHAT WASN'T SO HARD TO PREDICT
TEN YEARS FROM NOW IS THAT THE
449
00:21:41,167 --> 00:21:43,736
AVERAGE TEMPERATURE MIGHT BE
170 DEGREES.
450
00:21:43,736 --> 00:21:48,007
BUT THE FACT THAT BASEBALL'S
VERY NEAR DEATH.
451
00:21:48,007 --> 00:21:49,208
WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT
THERE'D BE MORE BASEBALL IN A
452
00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:50,376
FICTITIOUS TEN YEARS FROM NOW
THAN THERE IS IN THE REALITY
453
00:21:50,376 --> 00:21:58,484
OF 2020?
THAT'S JOEL CHURCH‐COOPER.
454
00:21:58,484 --> 00:22:01,353
YOU KNOW, MY TAKE ON THE
CHARACTER WAS THAT ROMP, THAT
455
00:22:01,353 --> 00:22:02,621
RAUNCHY ROMP, THAT THE SHORT
WAS ‐‐ IT WAS PRETTY SOPHOMORIC,
456
00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:06,826
YOU KNOW
I MADE THE CHARACTER AN
457
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:11,163
ALCOHOLIC JUST TO JUSTIFY SAYING
OUTLANDISH [ BLEEP ], PARDON ME.
458
00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:15,768
[ LAUGHTER ]
OUTLANDISH CRAP ON THE AIR
459
00:22:15,768 --> 00:22:17,736
BUT HE SAW THE DEPTH OF A MAN
STRUGGLING WITH HIS ALCOHOLISM
460
00:22:17,736 --> 00:22:21,240
AND ALL THAT THAT IMPLIES AND
TRYING TO FIND ‐‐ LIKE BASEBALL,
461
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,579
TRYING TO FIND RELEVANCE IN
MODERN TIMES
462
00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:27,446
I'M, LIKE, "WHAT DID YOU WRITE
HERE, MAN?
463
00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:33,052
IT'S BRILLIANT."
YEAH, I GOT LUCKY.
464
00:22:33,052 --> 00:22:34,320
>> Seth: WELL, I WONDER, LIKE,
WHAT HAS IT BEEN LIKE FOR YOU AS
465
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,555
AN ACTOR THAT YOU CREATE A
CHARACTER THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT TO
466
00:22:36,555 --> 00:22:41,160
DEVALUE IT AT ALL, SEEMS LIKE A
SKETCH CHARACTER
467
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,328
AND THEN, YOU FIND THIS WRITER
THAT'S GIVING HIM ALL THIS
468
00:22:42,328 --> 00:22:48,134
DEPTH.
AND YOU'RE INTO IT AS THIS
469
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:51,203
REALLY FUN, LIKE, VOCAL
IMPRESSION
470
00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:55,674
HAS THAT MADE IT EASIER FOR YOU
TO ‐‐ BECAUSE YOU'RE SO GREAT AT
471
00:22:55,674 --> 00:22:57,209
PLAYING THE REALITY OF THIS
PERSON
472
00:22:57,209 --> 00:22:58,544
STARTING WITH THE SILLY VOICE,
HAS IT MADE PLAYING THE DARK
473
00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:00,579
PARTS EASIER, OR HAS IT BEEN
HARDER
474
00:23:00,579 --> 00:23:02,781
>> KIND OF BOTH.
I MEAN, A LOT OF MY GIG OR MY
475
00:23:02,781 --> 00:23:05,518
NICHE OR MY SHTICK, IF YOU WILL,
IS CREATING A SILLY VOICE AND
476
00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:08,254
THEN SEEING IF I CAN FILL IT IN
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, IT'S ALMOST
477
00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:12,057
LIKE A GAME.
LIKE, CAN I MAKE THIS A REAL
478
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:14,860
HUMAN BEING?
AND IT BECAME A FUN CHALLENGE.
479
00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:17,229
LIKE, AMANDA PEET, WHO PLAYS
BROCKMIRE'S LOVE, SHE'S GREAT,
480
00:23:17,229 --> 00:23:25,504
AND SHE'S VERY REAL AND RAW, YOU
KNOW
481
00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:27,273
AND IT'S A GREAT CHARACTER SHE'S
PLAYING.
482
00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:28,574
SO WE'LL HAVE THESE INTENSE
CONVERSATIONS IN THE SHOW WHERE
483
00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:35,781
SHE'S CRYING AND SCREAMING AND
UPSET.
484
00:23:35,781 --> 00:23:37,016
AND I'VE GOT TO ANSWER HER IN
TIME, BUT I'VE GOT TO SAY IT
485
00:23:37,016 --> 00:23:37,583
LIKE THIS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
486
00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:40,386
I'VE GOT TO TALK TO HER LIKE
IT'S BASEBALL.
487
00:23:40,386 --> 00:23:42,154
AND I KNOW IN MY MIND, LIKE,
"OH, AMANDA'S REALLY UPSET, I'VE
488
00:23:42,154 --> 00:23:43,756
GOT TO TAKE CARE OF HER, BUT
IT'S GOT TO COME OUT OF THIS
489
00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:45,090
FILTER
AND CAN I MAKE THAT SOUND
490
00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:47,726
SINCERE?
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN THE
491
00:23:47,726 --> 00:23:50,796
FUN OF THE CHARACTER
>> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I DO?
492
00:23:50,796 --> 00:23:57,603
I TIP MY CAP TO BOTH OF YOU
BECAUSE YOU STAY IN THE
493
00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:58,837
CHARACTER, AND SHE HAS DONE SUCH
A FANTASTIC JOB OF ‐‐ SHE NOW
494
00:23:58,837 --> 00:24:02,675
ACCEPTS ‐‐ YOU KNOW, HER
CHARACTER ACCEPTS YOUR CHARACTER
495
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:09,114
AS REAL AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT
SUCH A FUN SHOW TO WATCH AS
496
00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:10,349
OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT I
THINK COULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH
497
00:24:10,349 --> 00:24:11,483
BROADER AND LESS EFFECTIVE
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE
498
00:24:11,483 --> 00:24:12,482
HANK RIGHT AFTER THIS.
499
00:24:31,146 --> 00:24:33,966
♪
>> Seth: HERE'S MORE OF MY
CONVERSATION WITH HANK AZARIA.
500
00:24:33,966 --> 00:24:36,835
CRAZY.
BUT YOU HAVE BEEN NOW DOING
501
00:24:36,835 --> 00:24:38,036
32 YEARS OF "THE SIMPSONS.
YOU WERE A YOUNG MAN WHEN "THE
502
00:24:38,036 --> 00:24:45,911
SIMPSONS" BEGAN.
WHAT WAS IT ‐‐ DO YOU HAVE ANY
503
00:24:45,911 --> 00:24:47,112
SENSE OF WHAT IT WOULD BE ‐‐ I
MEAN, CERTAINLY, NO ONE WOULD
504
00:24:47,112 --> 00:24:48,847
HAVE A SENSE OF HOW LONG IT
WOULD'VE GONE ON
505
00:24:48,847 --> 00:24:50,015
BUT WHAT WAS IT LIKE IN THE
BEGINNING WHEN YOU WENT IN TO
506
00:24:50,015 --> 00:24:52,117
RECORD VOICES?
>> YOU'RE TALKING 33, 34 YEARS
507
00:24:52,117 --> 00:24:54,987
AGO.
I WAS 22 OR 23 YEARS OLD
508
00:24:54,987 --> 00:25:05,797
IT WAS AN AUDITION LIKE ANY
OTHER.
509
00:25:05,797 --> 00:25:08,634
I KIND OF STROLLED IN.
MATT GROENING AND THE LATE GREAT
510
00:25:08,634 --> 00:25:11,470
SAM SIMON WERE SITTING THERE
JIM BROOKS WASN'T THERE, BUT THE
511
00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:14,773
OTHER TWO CO‐CREATORS.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW ‐‐ NO ONE KNEW
512
00:25:14,773 --> 00:25:17,809
WHAT THE SHOW WAS.
IT WAS A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE IT
513
00:25:17,809 --> 00:25:22,414
GOT RELEASED
AND THE FIRST VOICE I AUDITIONED
514
00:25:22,414 --> 00:25:27,886
WAS MOE.
AND I WAS DOING A SORT OF A
515
00:25:27,886 --> 00:25:33,158
PACINO IMPRESSION.
A YOUNG KIND OF "DOG DAY
516
00:25:33,158 --> 00:25:36,295
AFTERNOON" AL PACINO IMPRESSION.
I THOUGHT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR IT
517
00:25:36,295 --> 00:25:39,231
AND THEY WERE, LIKE, "CAN YOU
MAKE THAT GRAVELLY?"
518
00:25:39,231 --> 00:25:42,968
AND SO I KIND OF MADE IT
GRAVELLY
519
00:25:42,968 --> 00:25:44,169
AND THAT SOUNDED LIKE MOE.
AND THEY SAID, "COOL, WILL YOU
520
00:25:44,169 --> 00:25:45,170
COME RECORD?
I'M, LIKE, "NOW, LIKE RIGHT
521
00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:47,673
NOW?
AND THEY WERE, LIKE, "YEAH."
522
00:25:47,673 --> 00:25:48,740
AND I WALKED OVER WITH THEM ON
THE FOX LOT.
523
00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:51,176
LIKE, I'M 22
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN
524
00:25:51,176 --> 00:25:53,679
GENERAL ANYWHERE, LET ALONE IN
THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.
525
00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:56,882
I RECORDED ‐
>> Seth: THAT'S CRAZY.
526
00:25:56,882 --> 00:26:01,220
>> YEAH.
AND THEN, EVERY WEEK, THEY HAD
527
00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:02,654
ME BACK, AND THEN, THE SHOW
DIDN'T AIR FOR LIKE ANOTHER YEAR
528
00:26:02,654 --> 00:26:04,189
OR TWO AFTER THAT.
>> Seth: THIS MIGHT BE AN
529
00:26:04,189 --> 00:26:06,291
IGNORANT QUESTION, BUT DO YOU
ALWAYS SEE THE ART OF THE
530
00:26:06,291 --> 00:26:09,294
CHARACTER BEFORE YOU COME UP
WITH A VOICE
531
00:26:09,294 --> 00:26:10,729
>> NEVER
>> Seth: WOW
532
00:26:10,729 --> 00:26:14,666
>> SOMETIMES IN CERTAIN
ANIMATION PROJECTS, THEY WILL
533
00:26:14,666 --> 00:26:15,500
KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT THEY'RE
THINKING
534
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,502
BUT IN THIS CASE, NO
YOU JUST ‐‐ I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
535
00:26:17,502 --> 00:26:20,672
ANYTHING LOOKED LIKE
I JUST DID VOICES.
536
00:26:20,672 --> 00:26:24,076
AND THEY WERE VERY METICULOUS,
WHICH I REALIZED, I DIDN'T KNOW
537
00:26:24,076 --> 00:26:28,981
THEN BECAUSE I HAD NOTHING TO
COMPARE IT TO, BUT THEY WERE
538
00:26:28,981 --> 00:26:30,282
VERY PAINSTAKING ABOUT TAKES AND
TRYING IT THIS WAY AND TRYING IT
539
00:26:30,282 --> 00:26:31,183
THAT WAY
SO IT WAS A LOT ‐‐ IN THE FIRST
540
00:26:31,183 --> 00:26:35,554
YEAR OR TWO OF THE SHOW, WE WERE
THERE A LONG TIME RECORDING.
541
00:26:35,554 --> 00:26:37,089
NOW IT'S KIND OF LIKE CLOCKWORK,
AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE
542
00:26:37,089 --> 00:26:40,492
>> Seth: SURE.
DID YOU ‐‐ SO YOUR SON'S 11.
543
00:26:40,492 --> 00:26:43,195
GROWING UP WHEN YOU WERE, YOU
KNOW, READING BOOKS TO HIM AND
544
00:26:43,195 --> 00:26:44,930
BEING A FATHER IN GENERAL, WAS
HE IMPRESSED WITH YOUR ABILITY
545
00:26:44,930 --> 00:26:50,969
TO COME UP WITH VOICES AND BE A
MIMIC?
546
00:26:50,969 --> 00:26:51,837
>> NO.
HE WAS, IF ANYTHING, FRIGHTENED
547
00:26:51,837 --> 00:26:53,238
AND ANNOYED.
[ LAUGHTER ]
548
00:26:53,238 --> 00:26:57,743
LIKE, WHY ARE STRANGE NOISES
COMING OUT OF DADDY?
549
00:26:57,743 --> 00:27:01,546
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
AND WHEN WE WERE PREGNANT, WE
550
00:27:01,546 --> 00:27:05,717
RAN INTO ROBIN WILLIAMS, WHO I
KNEW AND WORKED WITH A FEW
551
00:27:05,717 --> 00:27:07,019
TIMES.
AND, OF COURSE, ROBIN DID ‐‐ YOU
552
00:27:07,019 --> 00:27:09,421
KNOW, BEING ROBIN, DID A
20‐MINUTE SHTICK ON MY WIFE'S
553
00:27:09,421 --> 00:27:12,858
PREGNANT BELLY
AND IN BETWEEN CRAZY JOKES,
554
00:27:12,858 --> 00:27:15,894
SAID, "YOU'LL SEE," BECAUSE HE
KNEW I WAS A VOICE GUY
555
00:27:15,894 --> 00:27:17,296
HE SAID, "YOU'LL SEE
YOUR KID WON'T LET YOU DO VOICES
556
00:27:17,296 --> 00:27:18,830
FOR LIKE THE FIRST SIX YEARS
HE'S ALIVE."
557
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:21,900
AND HE WAS COMPLETELY CORRECT
ABOUT THAT
558
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,403
AND THEN, OVER THE YEARS, HE HAS
EASED HIS POLICY
559
00:27:24,403 --> 00:27:25,671
BUT THEN IT HAD TO BE, LIKE,
CERTAIN VOICES WOULD SCARE HIM
560
00:27:25,671 --> 00:27:30,309
AND STILL DO
[ LAUGHTER ]
561
00:27:30,309 --> 00:27:31,410
LIKE, I CAN DO A PRETTY GOOD
VILLAIN, YOU KNOW.
562
00:27:31,410 --> 00:27:35,781
I CAN START WITH THIS STUFF AND
[ GROWLS ]
563
00:27:35,781 --> 00:27:39,151
AND HE'S, LIKE "AH, DADDY, NO!
[ LAUGHTER ]
564
00:27:39,151 --> 00:27:40,585
>> Seth: MY SON WILL BE SAVED
FROM THAT, BY MY TERRIBLE VOICE
565
00:27:40,585 --> 00:27:44,656
WORK
UM, HEY, LAST THING.
566
00:27:44,656 --> 00:27:45,957
THIS IS A REAL ‐‐ I WANT TO
SHOUT YOU OUT.
567
00:27:45,957 --> 00:27:47,926
THE "BROCKMIRE" JACKET, WHICH IS
A WORTHY INCLUSION, IS CURRENTLY
568
00:27:47,926 --> 00:27:56,435
IN THE HALL OF FAME, BASEBALL
HALL OF FAME
569
00:27:56,435 --> 00:27:58,170
>> IT IS NEXT TO "THE SIMPSONS"
DISPLAY FOR THE "HOMER AT THE
570
00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:04,076
BAT" EPISODE IS THE "BROCKMIRE"
JACKET
571
00:28:04,076 --> 00:28:07,913
AND OLD TIMEY MICROPHONE
I THINK THE FOLKS OVER THERE ARE
572
00:28:07,913 --> 00:28:09,214
BIG "BROCKMIRE" FANS
I'M VERY BAD AT SELLING MY OWN
573
00:28:09,214 --> 00:28:11,083
PROJECTS
BUT I LOVE THIS SHOW SO MUCH,
574
00:28:11,083 --> 00:28:13,919
"BROCKMIRE," I MEAN.
I LOVE "THE SIMPSONS" TOO.
575
00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:17,422
BUT TAKE THE "BROCKMIRE"
CHALLENGE, SETH MEYERS'
576
00:28:17,422 --> 00:28:19,758
AUDIENCE
WATCH ‐‐ IT'S ALL ON HULU, ALL
577
00:28:19,758 --> 00:28:24,529
FOUR SEASONS
YOU CAN BINGE IT NOW
578
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:25,464
IT'S EIGHT EPISODES PER SEASON,
22 MINUTES
579
00:28:25,464 --> 00:28:27,265
THAT'S ONE QUARANTINE AFTERNOON.
I MEAN, COME ON.
580
00:28:27,265 --> 00:28:28,467
>> Seth: ABSOLUTELY.
>> WATCH THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES
581
00:28:28,467 --> 00:28:30,001
OF SEASON ONE.
IF YOU DON'T ‐‐ OF EPISODE ONE,
582
00:28:30,001 --> 00:28:31,970
SEASON ONE
IF YOU DON'T LAUGH, YOU HAVE MY
583
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:36,675
PERMISSION TO STOP WATCHING.
>> Seth: AND I ALSO WANT TO
584
00:28:36,675 --> 00:28:38,944
STRESS, BECAUSE I THINK MY NEW
FAVORITE THING IS IF YOU CAN
585
00:28:38,944 --> 00:28:41,146
HAVE A 22‐MINUTE SHOW THAT ALSO
HAS SOME DRAMA IN IT, THAT'S A
586
00:28:41,146 --> 00:28:43,982
GOLD MINE FOR ME
AND "BROCKMIRE" HAS A LOT OF
587
00:28:43,982 --> 00:28:46,385
THAT
SO, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT AS
588
00:28:46,385 --> 00:28:47,352
WELL
HANK, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO
589
00:28:47,352 --> 00:28:50,422
SEE YOU, BUDDY
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
590
00:28:50,422 --> 00:28:54,526
SETH MEYERS.
KEEP UP THE WONDERFUL WORK
591
00:28:54,526 --> 00:28:56,479
[ LAUGHTER ]
♪
592
00:29:11,143 --> 00:29:13,783
>> Seth: COME BACK TOMORROW,
WE'LL HAVE THE GREAT
593
00:29:13,783 --> 00:29:14,984
WANDA SYKES, AND JUDD APATOW
WILL BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT "THE
594
00:29:14,984 --> 00:29:16,953
KING OF STATEN ISLAND.
AND AN ALL NEW "CLOSER LOOK.
595
00:29:16,953 --> 00:29:20,134
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
♪
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00:29:41,208 --> 00:29:43,612
>> Seth: OUR NEXT GUEST IS THE
PRESIDENT OF THE APPEAL, A
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00:29:43,612 --> 00:29:46,091
NONPROFIT JOURNALISM SITE
FOCUSED ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AND
598
00:29:46,091 --> 00:29:46,725
THE HOST OF THE POPULAR PODCAST
599
00:29:46,725 --> 00:29:51,396
"JUSTICE IN AMERICA.
HERE'S MY CONVERSATION WITH
JOSIE DUFFY RICE
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00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:56,468
>> GOOD.
HOW ARE YOU?
601
00:29:56,468 --> 00:29:58,637
>> Seth: I AM WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING
602
00:29:58,637 --> 00:30:00,305
TIME FOR US.
I HAVE TO IMAGINE THIS LAST FEW
603
00:30:00,305 --> 00:30:02,574
WEEKS HAS BEEN VERY EMOTIONALLY
OVERWHELMING FOR YOU AS IT HAS
604
00:30:02,574 --> 00:30:03,909
BEEN FOR SO MANY OF US
BUT IT ALSO MUST BE
605
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:09,648
PROFESSIONALLY OVERWHELMING.
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW MANY
606
00:30:09,648 --> 00:30:10,883
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO
YOU BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE
607
00:30:10,883 --> 00:30:13,952
ALREADY DOING.
>> YEAH.
608
00:30:13,952 --> 00:30:17,122
I THINK I'M GETTING, LIKE,
200 MORE EMAILS A DAY.
609
00:30:17,122 --> 00:30:22,261
[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]
AND I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE FOR
610
00:30:22,261 --> 00:30:23,262
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING THIS
WORK LONGER.
611
00:30:23,262 --> 00:30:24,563
SO, IT IS ‐‐ IT IS PEOPLE
FINALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT
612
00:30:24,563 --> 00:30:25,564
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK ABOUT
FOR A LONG TIME.
613
00:30:25,564 --> 00:30:29,268
SO IT'S EXCITING
>> Seth: AND HOW LONG HAS IT
614
00:30:29,268 --> 00:30:31,670
BEEN ‐‐ HOW LONG WOULD YOU SAY
YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT
615
00:30:31,670 --> 00:30:32,971
>> I STARTED WORKING IN CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM, LIKE, TEN YEARS
616
00:30:32,971 --> 00:30:36,942
AGO.
AND IN THE MIDDLE I WENT TO LAW
617
00:30:36,942 --> 00:30:40,179
SCHOOL AND STUFF
BUT I DEFINITELY ‐‐ LIKE, MY
618
00:30:40,179 --> 00:30:44,550
HUSBAND HAS BEEN TIRED OF ME
TALKING ABOUT THIS STUFF, LIKE,
619
00:30:44,550 --> 00:30:46,218
AT THE DINNER TABLE FOR YEARS.
SO NOW I FEEL LIKE A LITTLE
620
00:30:46,218 --> 00:30:48,287
VINDICATED BY THE FACT THAT
EVERYBODY'S INTERESTED, YOU
621
00:30:48,287 --> 00:30:51,456
KNOW
[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]
622
00:30:51,456 --> 00:30:55,394
>> Seth: SO, I DO WANT TO ASK
ABOUT THE FACT THAT I'M
623
00:30:55,394 --> 00:30:59,631
IMAGINING NOW MORE THAN EVER YOU
HAVE ‐
624
00:30:59,631 --> 00:31:00,899
BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM AS THOUGH
THIS HAS BEEN AN AWAKENING FOR
625
00:31:00,899 --> 00:31:03,702
WHITE PEOPLE, AND YOU PROBABLY
HAVE A LOT OF THEM COMING TO YOU
626
00:31:03,702 --> 00:31:06,305
ASKING FOR BOTH CONSTRUCTION AND
EXPLANATION.
627
00:31:06,305 --> 00:31:08,640
IS THAT WONDERFUL, OR IS THERE A
FRUSTRATION TO THE FACT THAT YOU
628
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,942
ARE HAVING TO SERVICE THEM AT A
TIME WHEN YOU COULD BE DOING
629
00:31:09,942 --> 00:31:18,116
OTHER THINGS
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW HARD
630
00:31:18,116 --> 00:31:19,117
IT IS TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW,
YOU KNOW
631
00:31:19,117 --> 00:31:21,286
AND, LIKE, I REALLY APPRECIATE
HOW HARD IT IS TO ASK QUESTIONS
632
00:31:21,286 --> 00:31:28,493
AND REALLY SAY, LIKE, "WHAT CAN
I DO?"
633
00:31:28,493 --> 00:31:30,896
"WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?"
"WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS?"
634
00:31:30,896 --> 00:31:32,197
AND, SO, WHILE THERE ARE ONLY
24 HOURS IN A DAY, AND I HAVEN'T
635
00:31:32,197 --> 00:31:33,398
ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO GET BACK TO
EVERYBODY THAT I WANT TO GET
636
00:31:33,398 --> 00:31:34,633
BACK TO, I THINK PEOPLE ASKING
QUESTIONS IN GOOD FAITH IS
637
00:31:34,633 --> 00:31:40,305
REALLY, UM ‐‐ I'M REALLY
GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
638
00:31:40,305 --> 00:31:41,607
OF COURSE, I ALSO HAVE THE HIGH
SCHOOL FRIENDS THAT EVERYBODY
639
00:31:41,607 --> 00:31:47,646
HAS THAT ARE POSTING THE SAME
"ALL LIVES MATTER" THINGS.
640
00:31:47,646 --> 00:31:49,481
AND THOSE I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE
MY TIME ON
641
00:31:49,481 --> 00:31:50,582
BUT ‐‐
[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]
642
00:31:50,582 --> 00:31:51,683
>> Seth: RIGHT
>> FOR PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW ‐‐ I
643
00:31:51,683 --> 00:31:55,954
THINK THIS IS A GALVANIZING
MOMENT FOR PEOPLE.
644
00:31:55,954 --> 00:32:00,092
AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE
THEY JUST DIDN'T SEE THIS AS THE
645
00:32:00,092 --> 00:32:03,595
MAJOR KIND OF ISSUE THAT IT IS
IN SO MANY BLACK COMMUNITIES
646
00:32:03,595 --> 00:32:04,830
AND SO IF THIS IS TURNING LIGHTS
ON FOR PEOPLE, I THINK THAT'S
647
00:32:04,830 --> 00:32:07,199
GOOD
>> Seth: THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
648
00:32:07,199 --> 00:32:08,734
RESULTS.
RIGHT?
649
00:32:08,734 --> 00:32:10,602
WE'VE SEEN SOME POLICE
DEPARTMENTS BAN NO‐KNOCK
650
00:32:10,602 --> 00:32:13,639
WARRANTS, LIKE IN LOUISVILLE
CHOKEHOLDS HAVE BEEN BANNED IN
651
00:32:13,639 --> 00:32:21,513
SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
DO YOU SEE THOSE AS PROGRESS, OR
652
00:32:21,513 --> 00:32:24,049
ARE YOU WORRIED THAT PEOPLE WILL
SEE IT AS THE COMPLETION OF A
653
00:32:24,049 --> 00:32:27,552
SOLUTION AS OPPOSED TO THE VERY
BEGINNING?
654
00:32:27,552 --> 00:32:31,290
>> YEAH.
I THINK A LOT OF THE SOLUTIONS
655
00:32:31,290 --> 00:32:32,524
FALL INTO TWO DIFFERENT CAMPS.
THERE ARE SOME SOLUTIONS LIKE
656
00:32:32,524 --> 00:32:33,625
WHAT YOU SEE IN LOS ANGELES,
MINNEAPOLIS, WHERE THEY'RE
657
00:32:33,625 --> 00:32:34,993
REALLY TALKING ABOUT REDUCING
THE RESOURCES THAT WE SPEND ON
658
00:32:34,993 --> 00:32:35,928
POLICE AND PUTTING THOSE
RESOURCES ELSEWHERE.
659
00:32:35,928 --> 00:32:43,535
RIGHT?
THINKING ABOUT HOW TO SPEND ON
660
00:32:43,535 --> 00:32:47,940
HEALTH CARE, MENTAL HEALTH
RESOURCES, EDUCATION, PARKS.
661
00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:53,478
AND THOSE I THINK ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT STEPS.
662
00:32:53,478 --> 00:32:56,081
THE POLICY QUESTIONS, IT'S NOT
THAT THEY DON'T MATTER, BUT I
663
00:32:56,081 --> 00:32:58,817
DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT
THERE HAVEN'T BEEN POLICIES IN
664
00:32:58,817 --> 00:32:59,584
PLACE SAYING YOU CAN'T KILL
PEOPLE
665
00:32:59,584 --> 00:33:00,419
[ LAUGHTER ]
BECAUSE THAT WAS A RULE.
666
00:33:00,419 --> 00:33:03,188
RIGHT?
AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT POLICY
667
00:33:03,188 --> 00:33:07,693
IS OFTEN NO MATCH FOR CULTURE.
AND IN PLACES WHERE POLICING
668
00:33:07,693 --> 00:33:08,927
CULTURE IS SO ENTRENCHED AND
PROTECTIVE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT,
669
00:33:08,927 --> 00:33:12,264
SMALL POLICY ‐‐ SMALL ATTEMPTS
AT POLICY ARE NOT MEANINGLESS,
670
00:33:12,264 --> 00:33:21,807
BUT THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING
TO DO WHAT WE NEED THEM TO DO.
671
00:33:21,807 --> 00:33:32,818
>> Seth: ONE THING THAT YOU
OFTEN HEAR FLOATED AS A
672
00:33:32,818 --> 00:33:35,620
SOLUTION, PARTICULARLY TO THE
BLACK COMMUNITY, IS, HEY, THE
673
00:33:35,620 --> 00:33:38,290
PROPER WAY TO ADDRESS THIS IS AT
THE VOTING BOOTH, RIGHT?
674
00:33:38,290 --> 00:33:39,257
GO TO THE POLLS, MAKE YOUR VOICE
HEARD THAT WAY
675
00:33:39,257 --> 00:33:40,492
PROTESTING IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
AND YET, AS WE SAW IN GEORGIA
676
00:33:40,492 --> 00:33:44,963
RECENTLY, THERE ARE MANY STATES
THAT MAKE IT VERY HARD FOR
677
00:33:44,963 --> 00:33:46,365
PARTICULARLY THE BLACK COMMUNITY
TO VOTE.
678
00:33:46,365 --> 00:33:47,632
ARE YOU CONCERNED AS YOU LOOK
FORWARD TO THE NEXT, YOU KNOW,
679
00:33:47,632 --> 00:33:48,800
THE GENERAL ELECTION IN
NOVEMBER, AT HOW DIFFICULT THE
680
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:55,273
VOTING WAS IN GEORGIA?
>> YEAH.
681
00:33:55,273 --> 00:33:57,142
I'M IN GEORGIA
WE WENT TO VOTE.
682
00:33:57,142 --> 00:33:59,277
IT TOOK US ABOUT AN HOUR AND A
HALF
683
00:33:59,277 --> 00:34:09,021
AND THAT WAS ON THE SHORTER SIDE
OF OUR JUST GENERAL AREA
684
00:34:09,021 --> 00:34:09,955
AND, LOOK, THAT'S NOTHING NEW
FOR GEORGIA.
685
00:34:09,955 --> 00:34:11,089
BRIAN KEMP AS GOVERNOR,
BRIAN KEMP AS SECRETARY OF STATE
686
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:14,159
BEFORE THIS, THIS IS A
DECADES‐LONG HISTORY IN GEORGIA
687
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,862
OF NOT WANTING BLACK PEOPLE,
POOR PEOPLE, AND PROGRESSIVES,
688
00:34:16,862 --> 00:34:19,931
MORE GENERALLY, I THINK, TO SHOW
UP
689
00:34:19,931 --> 00:34:22,334
AND SO I AM WORRIED.
I'M WORRIED EVERY ELECTION DAY
690
00:34:22,334 --> 00:34:25,070
THAT WE MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT FOR
PEOPLE TO VOTE
691
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:27,639
IT'S REALLY ALMOST UNPRECEDENTED
IN ANY DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD
692
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,542
JUST HOW HARD WE MAKE IT TO CAST
A BALLOT
693
00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:37,215
AND WHILE IT IS IMPORTANT TO
POINT OUT THAT, LIKE, WHAT
694
00:34:37,215 --> 00:34:38,450
HAPPENS AT THE VOTING BOOTH IS
NOT THE END OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT,
695
00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:43,221
IT CERTAINLY IS THE BEGINNING
FOR SO MANY PEOPLE
696
00:34:43,221 --> 00:34:46,291
AND THE IDEA THAT, LIKE, PEOPLE
MAY NOT ACTUALLY GET TO ELECT
697
00:34:46,291 --> 00:34:47,492
WHO THEY THINK SHOULD REPRESENT
THEM, ESPECIALLY IN A SYSTEM
698
00:34:47,492 --> 00:34:49,127
LIKE THIS, IS REALLY TERRIFYING.
>> Seth: CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE
699
00:34:49,127 --> 00:34:57,869
IDEA OF FELONY
DISENFRANCHISEMENT AND HOW THAT
700
00:34:57,869 --> 00:35:00,839
IS, YOU KNOW, A PUNITIVE ACT ON
TOP OF SOMEONE WHO, YOU KNOW,
701
00:35:00,839 --> 00:35:06,611
DOES THEIR TIME, FOR LACK OF A
BETTER WORD.
702
00:35:06,611 --> 00:35:08,380
YOU KNOW, THE IDEAS THAT YOU
WOULD PAY BACK TO SOCIETY BY
703
00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:09,514
SPENDING TIME IN PRISON, WHETHER
THAT MAKES SENSE OR NOT.
704
00:35:09,514 --> 00:35:13,819
BUT ‐‐
>> RIGHT
705
00:35:13,819 --> 00:35:15,020
>> Seth: THEN THEY'RE ALSO
PUNISHED FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO
706
00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:17,122
VOTE WHEN THEY'RE OUT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL
707
00:35:17,122 --> 00:35:18,323
LIKE INROADS ARE BEING MADE?
OR DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S AN
708
00:35:18,323 --> 00:35:23,128
ATTRACT ABILITY ON THAT ISSUE?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT AT
709
00:35:23,128 --> 00:35:25,630
LEAST IN TERMS OF THE NARRATIVE
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS ISSUE, YOU
710
00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:30,435
SEE PEOPLE TALK MORE ABOUT THE
PROBLEM OF FELONY
711
00:35:30,435 --> 00:35:40,712
DISENFRANCHISEMENT, AND THAT'S
HUGE
712
00:35:40,712 --> 00:35:47,385
BUT IT REALLY IS A MAJOR ISSUE
AND IT'S NOT APPLICABLE IN ANY
713
00:35:47,385 --> 00:35:48,653
OTHER COUNTRY THAT WE WOULD KIND
OF COMPARE THE U. S. TO, RIGHT?
714
00:35:48,653 --> 00:35:49,921
IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE THAT
YOUR ABILITY TO VOTE IS TIED TO
715
00:35:49,921 --> 00:35:50,889
YOUR CRIMINAL RECORD
IT JUST DOESN'T ‐‐ THE TWO
716
00:35:50,889 --> 00:35:51,990
THINGS ARE NOT RELATED, AND THEY
SHOULDN'T BE RELATED
717
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:53,058
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT
TO VOTE.
718
00:35:53,058 --> 00:35:54,392
YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE OVER 18 AND
FULFILL THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, IT
719
00:35:54,392 --> 00:36:04,436
MAKES SENSE.
AND I THINK, MORE BROADLY, IT
720
00:36:04,436 --> 00:36:07,405
MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT IN TIMES
LIKE THIS TO TALK ABOUT THE
721
00:36:07,405 --> 00:36:09,407
IMPORTANCE OF VOTING WHEN IT
COMES TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
722
00:36:09,407 --> 00:36:13,411
SYSTEM
RIGHT?
723
00:36:13,411 --> 00:36:15,914
BECAUSE SO OFTEN THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THE SYSTEM
724
00:36:15,914 --> 00:36:19,417
CAN'T EVEN CHOOSE WHO THEIR
REPRESENTATIVES ARE THAT ARE
725
00:36:19,417 --> 00:36:22,254
MAKING THE RULES OR CREATING THE
CONDITIONS THAT LEAD THEM INTO
726
00:36:22,254 --> 00:36:26,725
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TO
BEGIN WITH
727
00:36:26,725 --> 00:36:28,093
AND THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
THERE'S NO REASON THAT SHOULD
728
00:36:28,093 --> 00:36:29,294
HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER
OR NOT YOU GET TO GO CAST A
729
00:36:29,294 --> 00:36:39,538
BALLOT
>> Seth: SO, AGAIN, A LOT OF
730
00:36:39,538 --> 00:36:43,942
PEOPLE SAY WHAT YOU CAN DO RIGHT
NOW IS YOU CAN GO VOTE
731
00:36:43,942 --> 00:36:45,143
BUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE
DIFFICULTY OF THAT AND OBVIOUSLY
732
00:36:45,143 --> 00:36:46,244
PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE, THAT'S A
REALLY IMPORTANT THING, IF
733
00:36:46,244 --> 00:36:47,512
PEOPLE COME TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND
ARE, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGED TO TRY
734
00:36:47,512 --> 00:36:48,513
TO ENACT SOME SORT OF ACTUAL
CHANGE, WHAT ARE YOU
735
00:36:48,513 --> 00:36:51,216
RECOMMENDING THAT PEOPLE DO IN
THIS MOMENT?
736
00:36:51,216 --> 00:36:52,417
>> I THINK THE FIRST THING I
RECOMMEND IS THAT PEOPLE LOOK UP
737
00:36:52,417 --> 00:36:53,518
LOCAL ORGANIZERS IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY
738
00:36:53,518 --> 00:36:58,456
BLACK‐LED ORGANIZATIONS.
RIGHT?
739
00:36:58,456 --> 00:37:02,427
THERE ARE PEOPLE JUST DOING
INCREDIBLE WORK ON THE GROUND
740
00:37:02,427 --> 00:37:03,595
ORGANIZING PEOPLE, TRYING TO
MOVE POLICY AND PRACTICE DAY
741
00:37:03,595 --> 00:37:07,065
AFTER DAY.
AND, SO, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE
742
00:37:07,065 --> 00:37:18,543
SUPPORTING THOSE GROUPS.
I MEAN, IT'S GREAT TO SUPPORT
743
00:37:18,543 --> 00:37:19,878
THE BIG NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS
AND THE ACLU, AND ET CETERA.
744
00:37:19,878 --> 00:37:24,449
BUT THESE LOCAL GROUPS NEED YOUR
MONEY MORE
745
00:37:24,449 --> 00:37:25,684
THE SECOND THING I ALWAYS TELL
PEOPLE TO DO IS TO SUPPORT LOCAL
746
00:37:25,684 --> 00:37:28,186
JOURNALISM, RIGHT?
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TELL
747
00:37:28,186 --> 00:37:30,255
STORIES LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO
GEORGE FLOYD, FOR THESE THINGS
748
00:37:30,255 --> 00:37:38,563
TO GET PICK UP WITHOUT A
JOURNALIST INFRASTRUCTURE.
749
00:37:38,563 --> 00:37:40,966
AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST
RELY ON IT HAPPENING ON TWITTER
750
00:37:40,966 --> 00:37:46,771
FOR US TO REALLY BE ABLE TO TELL
STORIES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING
751
00:37:46,771 --> 00:37:49,641
IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND SO MAKING SURE TO SUPPORT
752
00:37:49,641 --> 00:37:51,343
LOCAL JOURNALISM, WHICH IS
OBVIOUSLY STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW,
753
00:37:51,343 --> 00:37:52,344
IS A BIG ONE
AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS YOU
754
00:37:52,344 --> 00:37:54,512
SHOULD ALWAYS KNOW WHO'S ON THE
BALLOT
755
00:37:54,512 --> 00:37:55,714
RIGHT?
THE BALLOT IS NOT THE END GAME
756
00:37:55,714 --> 00:37:59,317
IT CAN'T BE ALL YOU DO
BUT IT IS SOMETHING.
757
00:37:59,317 --> 00:38:00,518
AND YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO YOUR
DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS
758
00:38:00,518 --> 00:38:02,621
YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO YOUR SHERIFF
IS
759
00:38:02,621 --> 00:38:04,589
YOU SHOULD KNOW WHO YOUR CITY
COUNCIL PERSON IS AND YOUR STATE
760
00:38:04,589 --> 00:38:08,393
LEGISLATOR
AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK
761
00:38:08,393 --> 00:38:10,161
THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT THEY SUPPORT THE SORT OF
762
00:38:10,161 --> 00:38:14,199
CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN
THESE MOMENTS.
763
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:15,600
AND IT'S HARD SOMETIMES TO FIND
THAT INFORMATION
764
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,771
BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY
CRITICAL
765
00:38:19,771 --> 00:38:21,106
>> Seth: LASTLY, I AGREE WITH
YOU ON SO MUCH
766
00:38:21,106 --> 00:38:25,043
AND I THINK I MIGHT AGREE WITH
YOU ON SOMETHING ELSE.
767
00:38:25,043 --> 00:38:28,513
BUT I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF
IT MUCH.
768
00:38:28,513 --> 00:38:30,248
BUT YOU GOT IN A LITTLE BIT OF
TROUBLE ON TWITTER, BECAUSE YOU
769
00:38:30,248 --> 00:38:33,985
SAID THAT GRILLED CHEESES ARE
BAD.
770
00:38:33,985 --> 00:38:35,954
>> THEY'RE REALLY BAD, SETH.
>> Seth: AND YOU GOT RATIOED,
771
00:38:35,954 --> 00:38:38,023
WHICH IS ‐
>> I DID
772
00:38:38,023 --> 00:38:40,859
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Seth: ‐‐ WHICH IS ‐‐ WHICH
773
00:38:40,859 --> 00:38:42,193
DOES NEVER HURT ANYBODY'S
NAME ‐‐ BUT GIVE YOUR ‐‐ 'CAUSE
774
00:38:42,193 --> 00:38:43,828
YOU KNOW, I HADN'T REALLY
THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT I WILL
775
00:38:43,828 --> 00:38:47,332
SAY ‐‐ AND NOW I'M GOING TO
CATCH THE SAME HOT HELL YOU DID.
776
00:38:47,332 --> 00:38:49,301
I DO THINK IT'S A SANDWICH FOR A
CHILD.
777
00:38:49,301 --> 00:38:54,906
I WILL TAKE THAT POSITION.
>> IT IS A SANDWICH FOR A CHILD.
778
00:38:54,906 --> 00:38:56,741
MY NEXT LEVEL ABOUT OPINION IS
THAT MAC AND CHEESE IS ALSO BAD.
779
00:38:56,741 --> 00:38:59,444
AND REALLY THE BASIS OF THIS
COMES FROM THE FACT THAT I DON'T
780
00:38:59,444 --> 00:39:03,715
REALLY LIKE CHEESE
[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]
781
00:39:03,715 --> 00:39:05,016
>> Seth: THAT'S COMING ACROSS.
THERE WAS THE ONE MAJOR THING IN
782
00:39:05,016 --> 00:39:07,552
COMMON THERE
[ LAUGHTER ]
783
00:39:07,552 --> 00:39:09,821
>> YEAH, IT'S TERRIBLE
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
784
00:39:09,821 --> 00:39:12,123
SO, THIS CAUSES A LOT OF GRIEF
IN MY HOUSEHOLD.
785
00:39:12,123 --> 00:39:16,494
I HAVE A 2‐YEAR‐OLD, AND HIS
FIRST WORDS WERE "CHEESE."
786
00:39:16,494 --> 00:39:18,196
>> Seth: YEAH.
>> LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GET THAT
787
00:39:18,196 --> 00:39:20,665
I'M THE ODD PERSON OUT
BUT I DECIDED THAT IF I'M GOING
788
00:39:20,665 --> 00:39:23,601
TO GET RATIOED FOR SOMETHING, I
NEED TO GO DOWN IN FLAMES.
789
00:39:23,601 --> 00:39:25,036
>> Seth: YEAH.
>> AND GRILLED CHEESE IS THE WAY
790
00:39:25,036 --> 00:39:26,571
TO DO IT
>> Seth: I THINK I WON'T ‐
791
00:39:26,571 --> 00:39:29,341
LOOK, I'M WILLING TO MAYBE SEE A
PART OF YOUR POSITION ON THE
792
00:39:29,341 --> 00:39:33,345
GRILLED CHEESE
I AM A HUGE CHEESE FAN
793
00:39:33,345 --> 00:39:35,313
I MAKE CHEESE AND CRACKERS
I COULD SUBSIST ON THAT UNTIL
794
00:39:35,313 --> 00:39:37,148
THE END OF TIMES, BUT ‐‐
SO LET'S JUST AGREE ON THE
795
00:39:37,148 --> 00:39:41,219
SANDWICH PART ‐‐
>> YEAH.
796
00:39:41,219 --> 00:39:43,455
>> Seth: AND LEAVE EVERYTHING
ELSE OUT OF IT SO THAT WE CAN
797
00:39:43,455 --> 00:39:44,689
END ‐‐
>> WE CAN END NICELY, YES, ON
798
00:39:44,689 --> 00:39:48,326
GOOD TERMS
THANK YOU FOR NOT CANCELLING ME.
799
00:39:48,326 --> 00:39:50,495
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Seth: YOU'RE VERY WELCOME
800
00:39:50,495 --> 00:39:52,464
>> FOR NOT LIKING GRILLED
CHEESE
801
00:39:52,464 --> 00:39:54,866
>> Seth: WELL, WE'RE TAPING THIS
AT AROUND, LIKE, 4:00 P. M., SO I
802
00:39:54,866 --> 00:39:57,836
GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT IN, LIKE,
NINE HOURS IF WE CAN STILL BE
803
00:39:57,836 --> 00:39:59,804
MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, BASED ON OUR
GRILLED CHEESE ‐
804
00:39:59,804 --> 00:40:01,306
>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE MIGHT GET EXILED.
805
00:40:01,306 --> 00:40:03,541
WE MIGHT HAVE TO START OUR OWN
SOCIETY.
806
00:40:03,541 --> 00:40:04,709
>> Seth: WELL, HERE'S HOPING I
SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE.
807
00:40:04,709 --> 00:40:06,911
THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING TIME
FOR US
808
00:40:06,911 --> 00:40:07,912
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SETH
>> Seth: THANK YOU TO
809
00:40:07,912 --> 00:40:12,368
JOSIE DUFFY RICE
CHECK OUT HER PODCAST "JUSTICE
810
00:40:12,368 --> 00:40:13,877
IN AMERICA."
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
811
00:40:34,331 --> 00:40:35,584
♪
>> Seth: I WANT TO THANK MY
812
00:40:35,584 --> 00:40:36,952
GUESTS, HANK AZARIA AND
JOSIE DUFFY RICE
813
00:40:36,952 --> 00:40:39,588
I WANT TO THANK FRED ARMISEN AND
THE 8G BAND.
814
00:40:39,588 --> 00:40:41,990
STAY TUNED FOR "LILLY SINGH.
STAY SAFE.
815
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:47,229
WASH YOUR HANDS.
WE LOVE YOU.
816
00:40:47,229 --> 00:40:55,404
♪
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