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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,190 --> 00:00:04,850 (dramatic electronic music) 2 00:00:04,850 --> 00:00:07,830 is one of the world's greatest museums. 3 00:00:07,830 --> 00:00:10,190 On August 1st, 2006, 4 00:00:10,190 --> 00:00:13,180 its director made a dramatic announcement. 5 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:17,400 Over 200 items worth around $5 million were missing 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,100 from its store of Russian precious metals and jewelry. 7 00:00:21,010 --> 00:00:23,370 All hell broke loose in the press. 8 00:00:23,370 --> 00:00:25,800 There were calls for the director to resign. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,050 The shockwaves reached the Kremlin 10 00:00:28,050 --> 00:00:31,090 and President Putin himself intervened. 11 00:00:31,090 --> 00:00:33,310 The police were quick to make arrests. 12 00:00:33,310 --> 00:00:35,960 Their investigation revealed an antiquated system 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,720 of stock checking and lack security 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,960 and they blame the thefts on museum insiders. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,010 But in the complex world of post-communist Russia, 16 00:00:45,010 --> 00:00:47,370 plagued by organized crime, corruption, 17 00:00:47,370 --> 00:00:48,960 and political intrigue, 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,480 the truth is never easy to find. 19 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:54,700 Soon there were suggestions of police brutality 20 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:57,593 and a shocking allegation of murder at the museum. 21 00:00:59,650 --> 00:01:00,710 It's very possible 22 00:01:00,710 --> 00:01:03,990 that she was killed as a witness they'd rather do without. 23 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:06,280 And fears of a darker conspiracy 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,160 to damage the museum and force regime change 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,163 at the Hermitage. 26 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:13,670 Quite a lot of people in the history of Russia 27 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:17,300 and Soviet Union who have been dreaming of getting somehow 28 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:20,833 into the cellars of Hermitage. 29 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:23,430 So will the real criminals 30 00:01:23,430 --> 00:01:25,783 behind the theft ever be found? 31 00:01:27,229 --> 00:01:29,979 (dramatic music) 32 00:01:38,877 --> 00:01:41,294 (calm music) 33 00:01:46,390 --> 00:01:48,800 Often known as the Venice of the north, 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,870 the city of St. Petersburg is built 35 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:53,010 on a network of rivers and canals 36 00:01:53,010 --> 00:01:55,160 at the point where the river Neva flows out 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,583 into the Gulf of Finland. 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,010 It was founded in 1703 by the Russian Tsar Peter the Great 39 00:02:03,010 --> 00:02:06,660 as his new capital and is a city of baroque palaces, 40 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:09,650 magnificent cathedrals, grand boulevards, 41 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:11,193 and vast squares. 42 00:02:16,410 --> 00:02:18,870 At the heart of the city is the Winter Palace 43 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:22,120 built by the Empress Elizabeth in the mid 18th century 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,883 as a home for the imperial family. 45 00:02:29,140 --> 00:02:30,950 It was the storming of the Winter Palace 46 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:33,820 by the Bolsheviks in October 1917 47 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:35,440 which ushered in the revolution 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,040 and 70 years of Soviet rule, 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,950 an event immortalized with famous inaccuracy 50 00:02:40,950 --> 00:02:45,443 by the film director Sergei Eisenstein in his film October. 51 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:51,300 Today the palace houses 52 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,193 what is possibly the greatest museum in the world. 53 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,650 It contains the collections of the czars 54 00:02:57,650 --> 00:03:00,280 and most of the best works of art confiscated 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,263 from the Russian aristocracy at the time of the revolution. 56 00:03:05,010 --> 00:03:06,600 This museum, Hermitage, 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,520 an extremely important institution in Russia, 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,050 very symbolic one. 59 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:12,940 It's not exactly a reflection of Russia, 60 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:14,420 it's always a little bit better than Russia 61 00:03:14,420 --> 00:03:17,563 so if it is bad, it means something is very wrong. 62 00:03:21,420 --> 00:03:23,770 Around three million visitors a year flock 63 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:26,140 to view the stunning palace interiors 64 00:03:26,140 --> 00:03:28,073 and the unique treasures they contain. 65 00:03:33,310 --> 00:03:34,890 Catherine the Great was one 66 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:36,560 of the most important art collectors 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,450 the world has ever known. 68 00:03:38,450 --> 00:03:41,530 She hung her Rembrandts around her billiard room. 69 00:03:41,530 --> 00:03:44,063 There are 25 left in the Hermitage today. 70 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:50,650 The first serious patron of the French artist, Matisse, 71 00:03:50,650 --> 00:03:52,070 was Russian. 72 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:55,160 His collection was nationalized after the revolution 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,370 and makes the Hermitage a place of pilgrimage 74 00:03:57,370 --> 00:03:59,270 for connoisseurs of impressionist 75 00:03:59,270 --> 00:04:00,923 and post-impressionist art. 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,540 The treasures combine superb metalwork 77 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:06,020 from the ancient world, 78 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:08,760 sacred art from the churches of Europe and Russia, 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,503 and the jewel encrusted trappings of the czars. 80 00:04:13,710 --> 00:04:16,300 But only 5% of the museum's total collection 81 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:19,693 is ever on show in the galleries of the former palace. 82 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:27,330 The other 95%, nearly three million items, 83 00:04:27,330 --> 00:04:29,140 is tucked away in storage 84 00:04:29,140 --> 00:04:32,853 and only emerges, if ever, for special exhibitions. 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,940 Keeping tabs on this vast hidden collection is the job 86 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:40,900 of the museum's 150 or so curators, 87 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:43,823 organized into seven specialized departments. 88 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:49,360 This great museum is run by a huge bureaucracy, 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,673 reminiscent of the time of the czars. 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,590 So how could more than 200 items 91 00:05:00,590 --> 00:05:03,960 from a single museum department go missing, 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,213 presumed stolen? 93 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:19,600 The story of the thefts at the Hermitage began 94 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,850 with a routine business of checking the storage inventory. 95 00:05:22,850 --> 00:05:26,920 It's done on a rotating basis, department by department. 96 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,500 In August 2005, it was the turn of the collection 97 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:33,340 of Russian artifacts made from gold, silver, 98 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:34,683 and precious stones. 99 00:05:37,780 --> 00:05:40,340 Some come from churches and cathedrals. 100 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:44,420 Others are made for personal adornment or domestic use. 101 00:05:44,420 --> 00:05:47,000 The highlights of this collection are on display 102 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,733 in the museum's treasuries. 103 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:54,020 When the check was completed, 104 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:57,103 it became apparent there was a major problem. 105 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,360 The first to be told was the museum's director, 106 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,530 Mikhail Borisovich Piotrovsky, a professor of Arab history, 107 00:06:05,530 --> 00:06:08,490 is one of Putin's key advisers on culture. 108 00:06:08,490 --> 00:06:12,190 He has been director of the Hermitage since 1992, 109 00:06:12,190 --> 00:06:15,483 succeeding his father who died two years before. 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,110 I was told by head of the Russian department 111 00:06:20,110 --> 00:06:21,370 that something is wrong, 112 00:06:21,370 --> 00:06:23,340 something is looks to be missing, 113 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:25,090 so we begin to check 114 00:06:25,090 --> 00:06:27,200 and when it was fully checked, 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,320 we have seen that many objects are missing. 116 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,420 What the inventory revealed was shocking. 117 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:38,300 In total, 221 objects listed in the records 118 00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:40,680 couldn't be found in the storerooms. 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,360 More than half were 19th century icons 120 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,160 with silver covers, set with jewels. 121 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,340 Many of the others were sacred items, 122 00:06:48,340 --> 00:06:51,310 silver and enamel chalices and crosses, 123 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:53,860 and there were also a few items of domestic silver. 124 00:06:55,970 --> 00:06:58,460 They had disappeared from high-security storage 125 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:01,060 over a period of about 10 years 126 00:07:01,060 --> 00:07:03,023 and the sheer number was staggering. 127 00:07:04,580 --> 00:07:07,040 It was shock for me, for our colleagues, 128 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,830 for Dr. Piotrovsky, for everybody. 129 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:14,520 No one in our department or in the Hermitage could expect 130 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,520 that something terrible, something like that one, 131 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:21,503 could happened. 132 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:24,720 The museum had to face facts. 133 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,960 Over $5 million worth of precious antiques had disappeared 134 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,780 right under their noses. 135 00:07:30,780 --> 00:07:33,940 The question was who was responsible? 136 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:36,960 We began to think about the results, 137 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,830 about the events, about the people, 138 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:42,183 who would and who could do it. 139 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,110 There was soon a prime suspect for the thefts 140 00:07:46,110 --> 00:07:49,460 but she was no longer around to be questioned. 141 00:07:49,460 --> 00:07:51,630 This is Larisa Zavadsky. 142 00:07:51,630 --> 00:07:53,370 She was the curator in charge of most 143 00:07:53,370 --> 00:07:55,970 of the missing items and had been leading the audit. 144 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,330 She had worked at the Hermitage for 30 years 145 00:08:00,330 --> 00:08:02,660 but three months into the checking process, 146 00:08:02,660 --> 00:08:06,383 in November 2005, she died at her desk. 147 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:09,853 Apparently of a heart attack. 148 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 It was only when a new team of curators took over 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,400 the inventory check after her death 150 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,493 that the thefts were discovered. 151 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:21,840 And now we are going downstairs from my office 152 00:08:22,830 --> 00:08:25,957 to the office of Larisa Zavadsky. 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,100 And now we can see this small room, it's her office, 154 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:40,150 her computer, her chair. 155 00:08:40,150 --> 00:08:44,990 Just at that table, just near computer, 156 00:08:44,990 --> 00:08:49,073 she died on 8th of November, 2005. 157 00:09:01,265 --> 00:09:04,650 Larisa Zavadsky was only 51 years old. 158 00:09:04,650 --> 00:09:07,190 She had been in charge of her section for 20 years 159 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:09,723 and had contributed to many books in her field. 160 00:09:11,370 --> 00:09:14,250 She left behind a husband and a 25 year old son, 161 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:15,713 both called Nikolai. 162 00:09:16,669 --> 00:09:19,110 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 163 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:20,840 She started working for the Hermitage 164 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,450 before I was born. 165 00:09:22,450 --> 00:09:25,253 As a person, she was a forceful and serious woman. 166 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:29,920 She loved me and my father very much and cherished us 167 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,500 and she was always very upset 168 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,360 when there were any internal conflicts within the family, 169 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,060 even when there was nothing in it. 170 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,990 She took part in many exhibition projects, 171 00:09:44,990 --> 00:09:49,990 she follow our items to exhibitions inside Russia or abroad. 172 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:56,263 All the years she worked in our department, 173 00:09:56,263 --> 00:09:59,383 she was very beautiful specialist, good specialist. 174 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,830 She wrote many articles, she remembered all the items. 175 00:10:04,830 --> 00:10:07,587 Many years really we working together with her 176 00:10:07,587 --> 00:10:10,050 and she was one of great 177 00:10:10,050 --> 00:10:14,510 and I think that for my mind I not find, behind that, 178 00:10:14,510 --> 00:10:16,393 I don't find anything strange. 179 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,860 But despite her good record, 180 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:21,410 the museum authorities decided 181 00:10:21,410 --> 00:10:23,510 that so many items could not have disappeared 182 00:10:23,510 --> 00:10:26,430 from her collection without her knowledge. 183 00:10:26,430 --> 00:10:29,430 But did she take all the items herself 184 00:10:29,430 --> 00:10:31,830 or had she been blackmailed or bribed 185 00:10:31,830 --> 00:10:34,063 into helping others to rob the Hermitage? 186 00:10:40,490 --> 00:10:43,560 Larisa's son doesn't accept either story. 187 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:46,940 Instead he claims she was unaware of any thefts 188 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:49,880 and shortly before her death had even spoken herself 189 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,843 of finding gaps in the collection. 190 00:10:55,116 --> 00:10:58,070 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 191 00:10:58,070 --> 00:10:59,170 As far as I know, 192 00:10:59,170 --> 00:11:01,690 she discovered that some items were missing. 193 00:11:01,690 --> 00:11:03,470 It just seemed that they were nowhere to be found 194 00:11:03,470 --> 00:11:05,880 in the store and I think that she reported it 195 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,780 to the management. 196 00:11:09,390 --> 00:11:11,600 If she did report the problem to a superior 197 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,490 at the museum, no one has admitted it. 198 00:11:14,490 --> 00:11:16,950 But could her own anxiety about the thefts 199 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:19,250 have caused her untimely death? 200 00:11:19,250 --> 00:11:21,623 She was known to suffer from poor health. 201 00:11:23,613 --> 00:11:25,620 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 202 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:27,540 I only know that she had serious problems 203 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:28,460 with her health. 204 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:31,030 Problems with her heart, diabetes. 205 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:33,623 Unfortunately I don't know any further details. 206 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,530 Sometimes she was ill, hurt, 207 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,640 and so on, so on, so on, so on. 208 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,640 And she died really immediately 209 00:11:44,860 --> 00:11:47,153 and it was natural death. 210 00:11:48,410 --> 00:11:49,577 Natural death. 211 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,120 After the shock of Larisa Zavadsky's death, 212 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,830 a second blow for her colleagues was the possibility 213 00:11:56,830 --> 00:11:59,110 that a museum curator could have been stealing 214 00:11:59,110 --> 00:12:00,310 from her own collection. 215 00:12:02,170 --> 00:12:05,070 Hermitage curators are renowned for taking great pride 216 00:12:05,070 --> 00:12:06,810 in the works entrusted to them, 217 00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:10,540 treating them almost as their own treasured children. 218 00:12:10,540 --> 00:12:13,710 We couldn't believe for a long time that she could do it 219 00:12:13,710 --> 00:12:16,910 of course because we believed her very much. 220 00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:20,900 Still don't believe that she was the only one involved 221 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:22,673 but well, it was a shock. 222 00:12:24,218 --> 00:12:25,920 Larisa Zavadsky's death may have been 223 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,570 a personal tragedy 224 00:12:27,570 --> 00:12:31,780 but the theft from the museum had much wider implications. 225 00:12:31,780 --> 00:12:33,673 A public announcement had to be made. 226 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:40,400 In bureaucratic Russia, Dr. Piotrovsky's first priority was 227 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,610 to report the thefts to government officials in Moscow 228 00:12:43,610 --> 00:12:46,640 before they heard the bad news from anyone else. 229 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,020 What I think was very important to report it in the way 230 00:12:50,020 --> 00:12:54,900 so that the officials will know this before the press. 231 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:57,100 Because usually in Russia and St. Petersburg, 232 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,150 if you report something to the police, 233 00:12:59,150 --> 00:13:01,360 in five minutes the press knows it 234 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,110 even before the head of the police will know the thing. 235 00:13:06,260 --> 00:13:08,930 The Russian President Vladimir Putin 236 00:13:08,930 --> 00:13:11,060 was the first on his list. 237 00:13:11,060 --> 00:13:13,360 Putin grew up in St. Petersburg 238 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,333 and has often organized diplomatic events at the museum. 239 00:13:17,660 --> 00:13:20,300 Then he put in a call to Mikhail Shvydkoi 240 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:23,930 at the federal agency for culture and cinematography. 241 00:13:23,930 --> 00:13:25,637 Mr. Piotrovsky called me of course, 242 00:13:25,637 --> 00:13:30,360 and this was a short discussion 243 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,200 because we discuss about who will talk with press 244 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,610 and who will decide to the museum administration 245 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:39,367 must talk with press (mumbles). 246 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,960 On the 1st of August 2006, 247 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,010 nine months after the death of Larisa Zavadsky 248 00:13:47,010 --> 00:13:49,550 and only a few days after the final confirmation 249 00:13:49,550 --> 00:13:53,070 of the thefts, Dr. Piotrovsky summoned the media 250 00:13:53,070 --> 00:13:54,000 at short notice 251 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,350 to Catherine the Great's neoclassical theater 252 00:13:56,350 --> 00:13:57,413 in the Hermitage. 253 00:14:00,180 --> 00:14:01,530 It's a stab in the back, 254 00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:03,220 a stab in the back for the Hermitage 255 00:14:03,220 --> 00:14:05,570 and a stab in the back for the museum community 256 00:14:05,570 --> 00:14:08,280 at a time when we are trying to fight for our autonomy 257 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,203 and our rights. 258 00:14:10,050 --> 00:14:11,630 He revealed to journalists 259 00:14:11,630 --> 00:14:14,500 that 221 items were missing from the storeroom 260 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:16,840 of Russian precious metals and jewelry 261 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,720 and that the curator responsible had died at her desk 262 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,053 nine months earlier. 263 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,320 It was old tradition in Russia and also in Hermitage 264 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,500 to keep quiet if something happens, 265 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:29,333 something is missing. 266 00:14:29,333 --> 00:14:33,010 It was and is still tradition of many museums of the world. 267 00:14:33,010 --> 00:14:35,560 I saw that we have to go out with this 268 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,350 because if you lie or you cover things, 269 00:14:38,350 --> 00:14:40,883 you will make a lot of mistakes afterwards. 270 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:43,860 The following day, 271 00:14:43,860 --> 00:14:46,430 the Hermitage put a complete list of missing items 272 00:14:46,430 --> 00:14:48,840 and 21 photographs on its website 273 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,683 with an appeal for any information. 274 00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:54,820 The public announcement sparked an immediate 275 00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:56,563 and surprising response. 276 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:59,500 Just 24 hours later, 277 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:03,170 the St. Petersburg police received an anonymous tip-off. 278 00:15:03,170 --> 00:15:06,970 A 19th century icon depicting the Assembly of Saints 279 00:15:06,970 --> 00:15:10,110 had been left in a garbage bin in the city. 280 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:13,920 The head of the Police Art Squad, Vladislav Kirilov, 281 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,610 was filmed lifting the icon to safety 282 00:15:16,610 --> 00:15:19,680 and showing it off to the Russian television cameras. 283 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,070 It was number 97 on the list. 284 00:15:22,070 --> 00:15:24,690 Its distinctive silver gilt frame studded 285 00:15:24,690 --> 00:15:26,740 with precious stones. 286 00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:30,103 Who had dumped it or why was not revealed. 287 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:33,620 But it didn't stop there. 288 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:35,860 The next day, August 4th, 289 00:15:35,860 --> 00:15:39,910 it was the turn of a Moscow gallery, Orthodox Antique. 290 00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:43,090 Its owner Vladimir Studenikin had studied 291 00:15:43,090 --> 00:15:46,030 in an orthodox seminary and was a passionate collector 292 00:15:46,030 --> 00:15:48,100 of Russian sacred art of the kind 293 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:51,123 that featured so heavily on the Hermitage internet list. 294 00:15:52,365 --> 00:15:55,110 (Vladimir speaking in foreign language) 295 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:56,270 I started doing some research 296 00:15:56,270 --> 00:15:58,170 to find out whether I had any of these objects 297 00:15:58,170 --> 00:16:01,950 in my collection and I found one of them, a chalice. 298 00:16:01,950 --> 00:16:04,650 The description is very similar and there was a photograph 299 00:16:04,650 --> 00:16:07,060 and I compared it and concluded that it was the chalice 300 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:09,060 that had been stolen from the Hermitage. 301 00:16:12,886 --> 00:16:14,320 Studenikin had bought the silver 302 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,050 and enamel encrusted chalice two years earlier 303 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:20,253 after identifying it as an important and valuable piece. 304 00:16:21,754 --> 00:16:23,890 (Vladimir speaking in foreign language) 305 00:16:23,890 --> 00:16:26,730 It was obviously made by a good craftsman 306 00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:29,010 and it was made in a good workshop. 307 00:16:29,010 --> 00:16:31,350 It wouldn't have come from a small provincial church, 308 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:33,760 it would have belonged to a large cathedral. 309 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,650 So obviously it had a lot of artistic, 310 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:37,323 historical, and cultural value. 311 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:43,730 He had paid over $13,000 for the chalice 312 00:16:43,730 --> 00:16:47,730 but Studenikin decided to hand it over to the authorities. 313 00:16:47,730 --> 00:16:51,350 He chose the Federal Agency for Cultural Security in Moscow, 314 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:52,670 the government body in charge 315 00:16:52,670 --> 00:16:54,913 of protecting Russia's cultural heritage. 316 00:16:57,015 --> 00:17:01,682 (Vladimir speaking in foreign language) 317 00:17:05,730 --> 00:17:06,580 In Moscow, 318 00:17:06,580 --> 00:17:08,420 we maintain close business contacts 319 00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:10,930 with many antique dealers who are extremely careful 320 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,100 about their names and their reputations, 321 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,820 so they prefer to return these valuables 322 00:17:14,820 --> 00:17:16,210 through our service. 323 00:17:16,210 --> 00:17:18,360 Anyway, at the end of the day, 324 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:20,660 we pass all the evidence to the investigators. 325 00:17:22,483 --> 00:17:25,590 (dramatic music) 326 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:27,210 In the days after the museum made 327 00:17:27,210 --> 00:17:29,750 its dramatic public announcement of the thefts, 328 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:30,980 the scandal now threatened 329 00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:33,003 to overwhelm the Hermitage director. 330 00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:37,000 It seemed someone was out to get him. 331 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,023 A concerted press campaign demanded his resignation. 332 00:17:41,553 --> 00:17:42,730 (man speaking in foreign language) 333 00:17:42,730 --> 00:17:44,430 As far as my personal resignation 334 00:17:44,430 --> 00:17:47,000 is concerned, I read recently in a paper 335 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,710 that in all museums around the world, 336 00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:50,500 if something untoward happens, 337 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:52,880 the director always resigns. 338 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,830 And in the Louvre, the director would have gone. 339 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:57,780 Similar events have occurred in the Louvre 340 00:17:57,780 --> 00:17:59,960 and no director has resigned. 341 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,523 As for my resignation, don't hold your breath. 342 00:18:04,540 --> 00:18:05,980 In today's Russia, 343 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:09,540 it's said that press coverage can be bought by the yard. 344 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:12,000 The media campaign was so virulent 345 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,963 that Piotrovsky was convinced it had been paid for. 346 00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:19,500 The preparedness to have a big response 347 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:22,673 and telling much more about Hermitage, against Hermitage, 348 00:18:22,673 --> 00:18:24,690 that Hermitage deserved in this situation 349 00:18:24,690 --> 00:18:26,590 meant that all this was prepared. 350 00:18:26,590 --> 00:18:29,910 The kind of campaign we had in Russian press 351 00:18:29,910 --> 00:18:31,130 and electronic press, 352 00:18:31,130 --> 00:18:33,763 it's a campaign which costs a lot of money. 353 00:18:34,690 --> 00:18:36,340 Not everyone agrees. 354 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,290 (man speaking in foreign language) 355 00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:44,200 If our readers 356 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,170 and our listeners hadn't shown a big interest 357 00:18:46,170 --> 00:18:49,050 in the subject, if everybody was totally indifferent 358 00:18:49,050 --> 00:18:51,320 to the problems of the museum collections, 359 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,830 believe me, the press, the two, three, or five newspapers, 360 00:18:55,830 --> 00:18:58,100 or the two TV channels wouldn't have been able 361 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,633 to give this story such extensive coverage. 362 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:06,380 You must understand, this accident was in summertime 363 00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:10,730 when they are usually in summer around July, August too, 364 00:19:10,730 --> 00:19:13,470 we have not enough events. 365 00:19:13,470 --> 00:19:15,810 Of course everybody have an enemy 366 00:19:15,810 --> 00:19:19,330 if people in the 50s or 60s haven't enemy, 367 00:19:19,330 --> 00:19:23,300 they lived the very sad life, you know. 368 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:26,943 I have a lot of enemy too, is normal. 369 00:19:29,670 --> 00:19:31,990 But the Hermitage director was now certain 370 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:34,833 his enemies were busy plotting his downfall. 371 00:19:39,230 --> 00:19:41,300 In an effort to discover the truth, 372 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:43,770 Piotrovsky had already asked his head of security 373 00:19:43,770 --> 00:19:45,223 to carry out an inquiry. 374 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,710 Alexander Khozhainov had been recruited six years before 375 00:19:51,710 --> 00:19:53,130 from the Art and Antiques Squad 376 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:54,793 of the St. Petersburg police. 377 00:19:57,850 --> 00:20:00,520 He is proud of his past as an investigator, 378 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,370 the medals he won, and his old colleagues on the force. 379 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:07,090 But with the thefts making international news, 380 00:20:07,090 --> 00:20:08,880 the investigations by the museum 381 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,180 and the St. Petersburg Police were soon overtaken by events. 382 00:20:13,180 --> 00:20:15,470 The procurator's office in Moscow, 383 00:20:15,470 --> 00:20:18,691 the state prosecutor took charge. 384 00:20:18,691 --> 00:20:23,691 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 385 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,600 The crime was so serious 386 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,470 and had such resonance not just in Russia 387 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:29,960 that it was taken under control 388 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,640 of the state prosecutor's office 389 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,283 and a special investigation group was set up. 390 00:20:39,770 --> 00:20:41,250 It consisted of officers 391 00:20:41,250 --> 00:20:43,300 from the state investigation department 392 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:45,373 and from our own antique squad. 393 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:52,140 The team based themselves in the museum. 394 00:20:52,140 --> 00:20:55,130 From the start, they focused on Larisa Zavadsky 395 00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:56,690 and her family. 396 00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:59,090 Husband Nikolai was a history lecturer 397 00:20:59,090 --> 00:21:00,650 who worked in the Sports Institute 398 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:03,040 of St. Petersburg University. 399 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,040 His son describes his personality 400 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,463 as a stark contrast to his mother's. 401 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,400 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 402 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,863 No, he's a very gentle person. 403 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:21,330 Gentle and could be easily influenced. 404 00:21:21,330 --> 00:21:22,973 Really he's far too trusting. 405 00:21:25,460 --> 00:21:28,793 Maybe as a result of this, it all turned out so badly. 406 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,650 But in Larisa Zavadsky's husband, 407 00:21:34,650 --> 00:21:37,033 the authorities had an easy scapegoat. 408 00:21:37,983 --> 00:21:41,290 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 409 00:21:41,290 --> 00:21:43,140 I think it's true that he took part 410 00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:45,130 in the thefts but it seems to me 411 00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:48,240 that only Larisa Zavadsky could reveal the whole truth 412 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,093 about how it was all carried out. 413 00:21:55,170 --> 00:22:00,010 Sometimes her husband visited her here 414 00:22:00,010 --> 00:22:03,470 in the Hermitage of course, and her son too. 415 00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:07,583 Sometimes she visited here on Saturdays, 416 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,890 maybe on Sundays, I don't know, 417 00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:13,723 and on working days too. 418 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,340 Investigators soon had their second target, 419 00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:20,230 Nikolai Jr. 420 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:23,270 He now clears imported cars through customs 421 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:26,710 but for a while he also worked inside the Hermitage, 422 00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:29,563 a position secured for him by his mother. 423 00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:32,760 My mother helped me to get a job 424 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,410 at the Hermitage, I think in 1997, 425 00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:38,190 in the Department of Scientific Documentation. 426 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,030 At that point, I liked it. 427 00:22:40,030 --> 00:22:41,580 At that point, I wanted to have a career 428 00:22:41,580 --> 00:22:43,900 as a scientific researcher. 429 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:45,830 In the department, there was a minor conflict 430 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:48,180 with the management and later it emerged 431 00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:49,540 that actually it was a conflict 432 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:51,880 between my mother and the management. 433 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,500 I was sacked and moved to another department 434 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:55,700 but a few years later, 435 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,030 I realized that the place wasn't for me 436 00:22:58,030 --> 00:23:00,460 and putting it mildly, I realized 437 00:23:00,460 --> 00:23:03,460 that they didn't want me there and didn't like me very much. 438 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,500 Not surprisingly perhaps, 439 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:10,700 this period of work at the Hermitage only raised suspicions 440 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:12,530 that he had conspired with his mother 441 00:23:12,530 --> 00:23:13,993 to steal from the museum. 442 00:23:15,866 --> 00:23:17,500 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 443 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:18,650 I think it's not true 444 00:23:18,650 --> 00:23:21,220 that the son did not know about what was going on 445 00:23:21,220 --> 00:23:23,100 at the Hermitage, especially given 446 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,423 that he worked here as well for some time. 447 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:28,630 I first learned about the thefts 448 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:29,760 on television. 449 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,650 I vaguely heard some TV report 450 00:23:31,650 --> 00:23:33,687 that there was some sort of scandal at the Hermitage 451 00:23:33,687 --> 00:23:36,053 and that some objects had been stolen. 452 00:23:38,071 --> 00:23:41,590 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 453 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:43,090 My father and I didn't have a chance 454 00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:44,363 to discuss it properly. 455 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:49,360 We wanted to talk to the investigators 456 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:50,610 to tell them what we knew 457 00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:55,180 and somehow help them in every way to find some clues 458 00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:56,013 for the crime. 459 00:23:59,330 --> 00:24:00,980 The Zavadskys would get their chance 460 00:24:00,980 --> 00:24:04,293 to talk to the investigators sooner than they expected. 461 00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:10,890 The family's home is in an apartment building 462 00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:13,600 in the north of old St. Petersburg. 463 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,050 In a dawn raid on the 5th of August 2006, 464 00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:20,453 police arrived to arrest both father and son. 465 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:24,500 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 466 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,840 In the best KGB traditions, 467 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,110 in the early morning the police arrived 468 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:31,270 and took us to their antiques department 469 00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:33,323 and after that I found myself in prison. 470 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,740 The cells for prisoners under interrogation 471 00:24:47,740 --> 00:24:50,640 but not yet charged are in the former headquarters 472 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,390 of the KGB known as the Big House. 473 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:57,010 On the nearby river embankment sit the sculptures 474 00:24:57,010 --> 00:25:02,010 of two Sphinxes, designed by the sculptor Shemyakin in 1995. 475 00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:05,540 Located over the drain where in the Soviet era, 476 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:08,613 the blood of tortured prisoners flowed out into the river. 477 00:25:12,091 --> 00:25:13,930 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 478 00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:16,120 In fact, there were just two questions. 479 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,700 Where are the stolen items and where is the money? 480 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:20,963 I told them I don't know. 481 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,370 The police now had their prime suspects 482 00:25:24,370 --> 00:25:28,290 in custody but there would soon be further arrests 483 00:25:28,290 --> 00:25:30,960 and, as the story unfolded, 484 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,203 evidence that other darker forces may have been at work. 485 00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:38,570 Yet more investigations began. 486 00:25:38,570 --> 00:25:41,800 Two agencies from the Ministry of Culture in Moscow 487 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,760 dispatched teams to the museum 488 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,550 to figure out why the inventory 489 00:25:45,550 --> 00:25:47,750 and security system had failed. 490 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:50,040 They soon uncovered further mistakes 491 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,450 in the way the museum staff had logged their collections. 492 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:56,573 More had been stolen than they first thought. 493 00:25:57,605 --> 00:26:00,310 (Boris speaking in foreign language) 494 00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:01,940 Our staff confirmed the absence 495 00:26:01,940 --> 00:26:04,360 of the correct checking procedure in this department 496 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,040 and the absence of these particular objects. 497 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,860 Furthermore, they subsequently found 498 00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:11,270 that there were a further six objects missing 499 00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:12,220 in this collection. 500 00:26:15,130 --> 00:26:16,690 So was there a fatal flaw 501 00:26:16,690 --> 00:26:18,620 in the way the Hermitage collection was stored 502 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:19,503 and protected? 503 00:26:21,770 --> 00:26:24,260 In an age of sophisticated technology, 504 00:26:24,260 --> 00:26:26,970 the system of keeping track of items at the museum 505 00:26:26,970 --> 00:26:29,623 was more like something from the age of the czars. 506 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:33,870 Even now the Hermitage staff are still reluctant 507 00:26:33,870 --> 00:26:36,860 to swap their dusty old books for computers. 508 00:26:36,860 --> 00:26:39,370 It's a question for discussion 509 00:26:39,370 --> 00:26:41,980 because you can write by your hand 510 00:26:41,980 --> 00:26:45,160 and everybody knows that it's your hand. 511 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Computer inventory, it's a toy, it's a gimmick, 512 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,990 but it's not a real inventory. 513 00:26:50,990 --> 00:26:53,830 Real inventory must be on paper. 514 00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:58,410 This is one of the inventory books of our museum. 515 00:26:58,410 --> 00:27:03,410 There are the numbers of every item in our museum. 516 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:07,280 The description and the sizes for example, 517 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,960 technique, condition. 518 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,820 I believe more this old system. 519 00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:15,093 It's my own opinion. 520 00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:18,070 Also under scrutiny were 521 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:20,890 security arrangements for the storerooms. 522 00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:23,080 Access to Larisa Zavadsky's store 523 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,490 of Russian precious metals is through two nondescript doors 524 00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:29,473 in the walls of one of the museum's public galleries. 525 00:27:31,672 --> 00:27:35,970 We are just near the first door to the storage 526 00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:37,580 where Larisa worked. 527 00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:41,053 And to enter, it is supposed to be only for the curators. 528 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:44,810 All the doors are closed, 529 00:27:44,810 --> 00:27:47,870 keys the special electronic system, 530 00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:51,253 and the personal seal of the curator. 531 00:27:52,570 --> 00:27:55,650 The doors to Larisa's storage remain barred 532 00:27:55,650 --> 00:27:57,980 while the investigation continues. 533 00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:01,090 But for any curator to gain access to their collection, 534 00:28:01,090 --> 00:28:04,557 they must follow a standard security procedure. 535 00:28:04,557 --> 00:28:06,750 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 536 00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:09,950 The procedure is at the pass control office 537 00:28:09,950 --> 00:28:13,840 they get their keys and nowadays an access control card 538 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,090 and then they proceed to their place of work. 539 00:28:18,970 --> 00:28:21,363 There they switch off the security alarm. 540 00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:25,860 Curators can then unlock the doors 541 00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:29,370 to their storages, mainly located in the hidden quarters 542 00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:32,653 and rooms formerly used by the palace servants. 543 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,210 They sign in the book 544 00:28:36,210 --> 00:28:37,560 and according to the rules, 545 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,403 the curator is never alone in the storeroom. 546 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:46,400 The European porcelain storage is organized 547 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,550 along the same lines as Larisa's would have been. 548 00:28:49,550 --> 00:28:52,640 Cupboards installed before the revolution are secured 549 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,490 using a thin strip of wire and an imprint 550 00:28:55,490 --> 00:28:57,653 from the curator's individual seal. 551 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:05,370 So how could Larisa Zavadsky have stolen and stolen again, 552 00:29:05,370 --> 00:29:07,760 removing pieces from the museum stores 553 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,343 without being challenged? 554 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:14,580 The commissions from Moscow examined security procedures 555 00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:16,080 at the staff exit, 556 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,360 a set of doors to the rear of the building 557 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,380 on the banks of the river Neva. 558 00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:23,500 Could Larisa Zavadsky simply had carried out the items 559 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,023 one by one, hidden in her bag? 560 00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:31,710 The metal detector was only installed three years ago. 561 00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:33,683 Perhaps Larisa managed to evade it. 562 00:29:34,850 --> 00:29:38,227 Nobody never opens their bags 563 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160 from the permanent staff of Hermitage 564 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,700 when they come in and come out from Hermitage. 565 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:45,533 Never. 566 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:49,380 Mrs. Zavadsky was well known 567 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:51,260 for people from security service 568 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:55,130 and nobody never can image this. 569 00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:57,120 They must look in the bag 570 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,120 or make some security procedure for her. 571 00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:05,740 Well, curators have certain privileges 572 00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:08,540 and nobody can search people carrying out 573 00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:10,670 of the museum according to the law. 574 00:30:10,670 --> 00:30:12,330 Only policemen can search a person 575 00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:13,640 and only special situation. 576 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,230 So if you work in the museum, 577 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:19,210 you can always find a lot of ways how you can take it 578 00:30:19,210 --> 00:30:21,093 because museum is based on trust. 579 00:30:22,770 --> 00:30:25,513 Had Larisa Zavadsky betrayed that trust? 580 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,390 Her husband and son were now being held by the police 581 00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:31,293 for questioning. 582 00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:37,580 But the day after they were taken in for interrogation, 583 00:30:37,580 --> 00:30:40,640 investigators made a third arrest. 584 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,090 They were following a completely different line of inquiry. 585 00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:46,960 They had begun to trace back the ownership of items 586 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,233 that had been returned. 587 00:30:49,270 --> 00:30:51,740 The silver and enamel chalice handed over 588 00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:55,470 by Moscow gallery owner Vladimir Studenikin 589 00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:59,230 had been bought in 2004 from a Maxim Shepel, 590 00:30:59,230 --> 00:31:02,418 a St. Petersburg collector and art dealer. 591 00:31:02,418 --> 00:31:06,370 (Vladimir speaking in foreign language) 592 00:31:06,370 --> 00:31:08,240 I have known Maxim for a few years 593 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,340 and I know only positive things about him. 594 00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:16,880 I know him as a good person, 595 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,220 as a collector who has a good reputation, 596 00:31:19,220 --> 00:31:21,440 and I couldn't imagine that he would be mixed up 597 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,343 in this scandal. 598 00:31:27,770 --> 00:31:29,470 When he offered to sell me this object, 599 00:31:29,470 --> 00:31:32,020 I was sure that it couldn't be stolen 600 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:34,210 and I think that Maxim himself would not have bought 601 00:31:34,210 --> 00:31:36,813 this object either and got mixed up in the story. 602 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,780 Shepel was arrested on August 6th 603 00:31:43,780 --> 00:31:46,020 and questioned by investigators. 604 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:47,450 He told them he'd bought the chalice 605 00:31:47,450 --> 00:31:49,263 in a St. Petersburg junk shop. 606 00:31:51,530 --> 00:31:53,780 But bizarrely, three days later, 607 00:31:53,780 --> 00:31:55,960 he was transferred to the psychiatric ward 608 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,710 of the police hospital. 609 00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:59,850 The police claimed he had driven a pen 610 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:02,593 3 1/2 centimeters into his own eye. 611 00:32:05,460 --> 00:32:07,300 Was this possible? 612 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,163 His wife thought not. 613 00:32:10,427 --> 00:32:12,430 (woman speaking in foreign language) 614 00:32:12,430 --> 00:32:13,780 Officially it was self-harm 615 00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:15,610 due to psychiatric disorder. 616 00:32:15,610 --> 00:32:16,450 I don't believe it 617 00:32:16,450 --> 00:32:19,060 because my husband has a phobia about pain. 618 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:21,330 On top of this, I'm 1,000% confident 619 00:32:21,330 --> 00:32:22,980 that he would never harm himself. 620 00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:26,580 So did investigators inflict the injury 621 00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:28,380 in their haste to secure a quick conviction 622 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,430 in such a high-profile case? 623 00:32:30,430 --> 00:32:33,063 If so, the tactic didn't work. 624 00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,660 A week later, he was released through lack of evidence 625 00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:41,963 and still hasn't spoken publicly of his experiences. 626 00:32:43,231 --> 00:32:44,270 (Vladimir speaking in foreign language) 627 00:32:44,270 --> 00:32:45,620 I feel guilty about Maxim 628 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:48,170 because I had to reveal where I bought my object 629 00:32:48,170 --> 00:32:49,867 to help the investigation. 630 00:32:49,867 --> 00:32:53,203 And so the situation is unfortunately the way it is now. 631 00:32:57,290 --> 00:32:58,130 But if the arrest 632 00:32:58,130 --> 00:33:00,060 of Shepel had drawn a blank, 633 00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:03,133 police soon announced a dramatic breakthrough in the case. 634 00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:07,330 They claimed Nikolai Zavadsky Sr. had confessed 635 00:33:07,330 --> 00:33:09,520 to selling more than 50 items stolen 636 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,720 from his wife's collection at the Hermitage. 637 00:33:14,050 --> 00:33:16,240 The damning evidence had apparently come 638 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,163 from one of the city's pawn shops. 639 00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:23,430 In Russia, pawnshops are known as Lombards, 640 00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:27,410 reflecting their origin in the Italian region of Lombardy. 641 00:33:27,410 --> 00:33:30,040 They offer the traditional pawnshop service, 642 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,340 paying in advance on a valuable item 643 00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:34,680 which can later be reclaimed. 644 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,550 But they also buy and sell antiques and jewels 645 00:33:37,550 --> 00:33:38,663 in the normal way. 646 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,890 It emerged that a Lombard located 647 00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:50,020 at number 13 Lenin Street had supplied police 648 00:33:50,020 --> 00:33:52,180 with receipts for around 50 items 649 00:33:52,180 --> 00:33:54,857 they claimed to have bought from the Zavadskys. 650 00:33:56,890 --> 00:33:59,210 All had apparently appeared on the Hermitage list 651 00:33:59,210 --> 00:34:02,000 of missing items but were no longer in the hands 652 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,090 of the pawnshop owner. 653 00:34:04,090 --> 00:34:06,710 He refused to be interviewed for this program 654 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:08,750 but conveniently his evidence seemed 655 00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:11,160 to be all the police needed to sew up the case 656 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,600 against a Zavadsky. 657 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,160 The following day on August 10th, 658 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,490 police arrived at St. Petersburg's Moscow station 659 00:34:24,490 --> 00:34:26,843 after another cloak-and-dagger tip-off. 660 00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:30,260 Inside one of the luggage lockers, 661 00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:32,220 they discovered a plastic bag 662 00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:34,090 containing two small paintings 663 00:34:34,090 --> 00:34:37,003 and an 18th century silver gilt crucifix. 664 00:34:41,550 --> 00:34:44,960 The next day, the owner of a second pawn shop came forward 665 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,840 in person with the silver gilt cross he had seen 666 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,433 on the list of missing items. 667 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,557 He also had further damning evidence 668 00:34:52,557 --> 00:34:54,653 on the Zavadskys' involvement. 669 00:34:55,725 --> 00:35:00,040 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 670 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,640 In August 2005, 671 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,653 Larisa Zavadsky came to our store several times. 672 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,650 She brought some quite attractive items 673 00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:08,900 which she wanted to sell. 674 00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:14,970 She told us a very dramatic story 675 00:35:14,970 --> 00:35:17,490 about some friends of hers who'd been in a car accident 676 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:18,820 and were in the hospital 677 00:35:18,820 --> 00:35:20,980 and they needed to sell their possessions to raise money 678 00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:22,330 to pay for their treatment. 679 00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:33,150 The second time she came, 680 00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:35,360 she brought a silver gilt cross dating 681 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,920 from the middle of the 18th century. 682 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,183 We managed to agree a price and we bought it. 683 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,970 Alexander Prokhorov identified Larisa 684 00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:46,690 as the main negotiator 685 00:35:46,690 --> 00:35:50,495 but also implicated her husband Nikolai in the sale. 686 00:35:50,495 --> 00:35:52,660 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 687 00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:53,493 The first time, 688 00:35:53,493 --> 00:35:56,130 he was just waiting for her in the car outside. 689 00:35:56,130 --> 00:35:57,530 We didn't see him. 690 00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:59,710 The second time he was walking around the shop, 691 00:35:59,710 --> 00:36:01,220 looking at various things, 692 00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:03,070 and only when we came to an agreement 693 00:36:03,070 --> 00:36:04,750 and decided to buy the cross, 694 00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:06,840 she told us she didn't have any ID with her 695 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,200 and asked her husband to show us his documents 696 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,600 and be listed as the seller. 697 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:17,130 Nikolai Zavadsky signed a receipt for the sale 698 00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:19,830 and the couple left with 20,000 rubles, 699 00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:22,500 around $800, less than 1/10 700 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,493 of the price Prokhorov believes he could have sold it for. 701 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,750 Almost exactly a year later, 702 00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:34,360 Prokhorov saw reports of the Hermitage thefts. 703 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,700 He retrieved the cross from the shop's safe 704 00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:39,810 but after what happened to Maxim Shepel, 705 00:36:39,810 --> 00:36:42,350 he felt he needed impartial witnesses present 706 00:36:42,350 --> 00:36:43,853 when he took it to the police. 707 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:48,280 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 708 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,790 We called the radio station Moscow Echo 709 00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:53,050 and the journalist came here. 710 00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:54,270 Then they called the police 711 00:36:54,270 --> 00:36:56,403 and negotiated a meeting for the next day. 712 00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:02,080 The journalists were prepared to be mediators 713 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,040 or just observers 714 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,960 to make sure the whole procedure was absolutely legal 715 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,560 and that our rights were not compromised in any way. 716 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,753 On the same day 717 00:37:18,753 --> 00:37:21,470 as Prokhorov's deliberately public hand over, 718 00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:25,030 police made a fourth arrest, Ivan Sobolev, 719 00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:28,480 an historian who had worked with Nikolai Zavadsky Sr. 720 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,363 at the Institute of Physical Culture and Sport in the 1990s. 721 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:35,670 Zavadsky had apparently told police 722 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:38,470 that Sobolev had encouraged them to begin stealing 723 00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:39,930 from the Hermitage. 724 00:37:39,930 --> 00:37:43,033 He had even sold two icons for them in 1994. 725 00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:48,550 Investigators wanted to see if he too could be implicated 726 00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:51,063 in the sale of so many Hermitage treasures. 727 00:37:55,090 --> 00:37:58,300 On the 17th of August, three more items were left 728 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:00,150 at the headquarters of the Art Squad. 729 00:38:02,110 --> 00:38:05,423 A silver gilt crucifix dated 1731, 730 00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:09,690 an icon of Saint Nicholas with a silver cover, 731 00:38:09,690 --> 00:38:12,750 and a fake Faberge dog given to the Hermitage 732 00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:16,810 by the courts after the prosecution of a famous forger. 733 00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:18,730 The Hermitage staged an exhibition 734 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:21,240 after 31 pieces had been returned, 735 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,713 most as a result of anonymous tip-offs. 736 00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:35,020 Just as it seemed that the prosecution case was complete, 737 00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:36,893 there was a surprising new twist. 738 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,410 On the 23rd of August, 739 00:38:40,410 --> 00:38:42,840 Nikolai Zavadsky Jr. was released 740 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,060 from prison without charge. 741 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:46,860 He maintains his innocence 742 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:48,810 and is convinced that his father confessed 743 00:38:48,810 --> 00:38:50,440 to thefts he hadn't made 744 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,063 in a deal to secure his son's release. 745 00:38:54,764 --> 00:38:59,370 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 746 00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:00,380 In my opinion, 747 00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:02,570 my father made his confessions under pressure 748 00:39:02,570 --> 00:39:06,290 from the investigators because as I realized, 749 00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:07,810 I was arrested as a hostage 750 00:39:07,810 --> 00:39:09,490 so that my father would take the blame 751 00:39:09,490 --> 00:39:11,813 for the whole crime and all the thefts. 752 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,640 And when my father signed everything the police wanted, 753 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,743 they let me out. 754 00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:20,730 For Nikolai Jr., 755 00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:22,270 the crucial evidence supplied 756 00:39:22,270 --> 00:39:24,523 by the two pawnshops was flawed. 757 00:39:25,617 --> 00:39:30,210 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 758 00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:32,680 Yes, my father did in fact take some things 759 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,570 to pawnshops but these were things 760 00:39:34,570 --> 00:39:37,170 which belonged to our family, his parents. 761 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:39,050 We had some antiques at home 762 00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:41,340 but they belonged exclusively to our family 763 00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:43,390 and had nothing to do with the Hermitage. 764 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:47,900 He has particular doubts 765 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:50,790 about the origins of the 50 incriminating receipts 766 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:52,573 from the Lenin Street Lombard. 767 00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,290 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 768 00:39:57,290 --> 00:39:59,550 50 receipts from one pawnshop? 769 00:39:59,550 --> 00:40:01,343 I think, what, they faked them? 770 00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:07,500 As far as I know and from what my lawyer told me 771 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:09,710 and my father's lawyer told me at the time, 772 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:11,810 even the handwriting and the receipts didn't look 773 00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:13,550 like my father's. 774 00:40:13,550 --> 00:40:16,000 The receipts were filled out in a different hand. 775 00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:21,620 Alexander Prokhorov was also surprised 776 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:23,160 that his Lenin Street competitors 777 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,973 hadn't blown the whistle earlier. 778 00:40:25,842 --> 00:40:30,592 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 779 00:40:31,467 --> 00:40:32,380 If I was in a situation 780 00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:34,520 where the same person again and again brought 781 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,390 some precious objects to the shop, 782 00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:39,290 I would definitely become suspicious. 783 00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:42,853 It wouldn't seem normal to me, not normal these days. 784 00:40:51,350 --> 00:40:52,920 Nikolai Zavadsky believes 785 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,520 that his father did a deal with the police. 786 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,630 If he confessed to stealing a large proportion of items 787 00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:59,940 and went along with the story 788 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,720 of selling it all to pawn shops, 789 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,510 his son would be released. 790 00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:07,750 So had Nikolai Sr. made a false confession? 791 00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:08,980 The fourth man arrested 792 00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:11,603 in connection with the thefts certainly thought so. 793 00:41:14,083 --> 00:41:16,110 Ivan Sobolev had been seized 794 00:41:16,110 --> 00:41:18,160 after Nikolai Sr. identified him 795 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,210 as the initiator of the thefts. 796 00:41:20,210 --> 00:41:24,463 He had sold two icons for the Zavadskys in 1994. 797 00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:29,590 Under Russian law, defendants cannot be prosecuted 798 00:41:29,590 --> 00:41:32,660 for a crime committed more than 10 years earlier, 799 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:35,740 so Sobolev was released without charge. 800 00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:38,960 But only after three months in prison. 801 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,720 Immediately after his release, 802 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,323 he talked to the St. Petersburg weekly newspaper, 803 00:41:44,247 --> 00:41:48,610 (speaks in foreign language), Your Mystery Advisor. 804 00:41:48,610 --> 00:41:49,840 He described the pressure 805 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,180 the investigators were putting on Zavadsky 806 00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:55,143 to implicate his former colleague in the thefts. 807 00:41:56,290 --> 00:41:58,530 At a meeting on the 15th of August, 808 00:41:58,530 --> 00:42:00,940 he denied virtually everything he had said 809 00:42:00,940 --> 00:42:02,800 and written about me earlier. 810 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,130 As far as I understand, he was then visited 811 00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:08,950 by the chief investigator in his solitary confinement. 812 00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:10,500 I don't know what they talked about 813 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:14,820 but afterwards Zavadsky's memory came back. 814 00:42:14,820 --> 00:42:16,360 According to Sobolev, 815 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,810 Zavadsky was persuaded to perjure himself 816 00:42:18,810 --> 00:42:21,363 in exchange for seeing his son walk free. 817 00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:24,470 It was a matter of determining the fate 818 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:27,840 of Nikolai Zavadsky's 25 year old son, 819 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,170 who had also been charged in connection with the thefts. 820 00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:34,030 And this was the only thing that Nikolai cared about. 821 00:42:34,030 --> 00:42:36,530 He would have signed anything you dictated to him. 822 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,240 After Sobolev's release, 823 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:53,360 Nikolai Zavadsky Sr. remained the only suspect identified 824 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,573 and prosecuted by investigators. 825 00:42:57,430 --> 00:43:00,510 His trial in a St. Petersburg district court began 826 00:43:00,510 --> 00:43:03,453 on the 21st of January, 2007. 827 00:43:05,590 --> 00:43:08,493 Nikolai Jr. also appeared as a witness. 828 00:43:09,330 --> 00:43:13,450 His father now admitted selling 77 items from the Hermitage. 829 00:43:13,450 --> 00:43:16,190 He insisted he and his wife had done so 830 00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:19,323 to pay for the insulin she needed to treat her diabetes. 831 00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:23,830 But was this just part of a cover story 832 00:43:23,830 --> 00:43:25,683 cooked up for him by police? 833 00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:29,400 Many in the museum were still skeptical 834 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,483 about the official version of events. 835 00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:33,730 Why, for starters, 836 00:43:33,730 --> 00:43:36,283 did the Zavadskys sell through pawn shops? 837 00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:41,480 Most of the 31 returned items could be traced back 838 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,073 to Lombards in the city. 839 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,440 But as Alexander Prokhorov revealed, 840 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,070 they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near 841 00:43:49,070 --> 00:43:50,730 the full market value, 842 00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:54,790 so why not sell to specialist antique dealers instead? 843 00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:57,700 The story of pawn shops and the amount of money 844 00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:00,740 which she received is really strange 845 00:44:00,740 --> 00:44:05,080 because, well, she knew all the big antique dealers 846 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,480 and she knew the right prices of the things. 847 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,210 Also this receipts from the pawn shops show 848 00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:14,343 very small amounts of money which is another mystery. 849 00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:18,620 Even if the couple hadn't gotten the full value 850 00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:21,970 estimated at around $5 million in total, 851 00:44:21,970 --> 00:44:23,320 they would still have walked away 852 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,020 with a significant amount of money. 853 00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:28,060 But a tour of the family apartment 854 00:44:28,060 --> 00:44:30,240 only adds to the mystery. 855 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:33,223 There is absolutely no sign of affluence. 856 00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:37,260 Here's the kitchen. 857 00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:39,130 There are two fridges. 858 00:44:39,130 --> 00:44:41,080 This is our fridge and washing machine. 859 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:45,060 This is our neighbor's fridge and washing machine. 860 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,003 That's our table. 861 00:44:48,220 --> 00:44:50,350 It is a communal apartment. 862 00:44:50,350 --> 00:44:53,633 The bathroom and kitchen are shared with another family. 863 00:44:54,690 --> 00:44:57,710 The Zavadskys had two rooms to themselves. 864 00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:58,543 A bedroom. 865 00:45:00,350 --> 00:45:02,170 This is where my wife and I live 866 00:45:02,170 --> 00:45:03,920 but it used to be my parents' room. 867 00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:06,973 And a sitting room. 868 00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:10,410 Here's the room where my father lives now 869 00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:12,770 and where we used to live some time ago. 870 00:45:12,770 --> 00:45:15,347 Here are our books, not all of them though. 871 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,670 I didn't see at all 872 00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:24,490 that my parents had any more money than usual 873 00:45:24,490 --> 00:45:27,740 and there was no golden stream turning towards us. 874 00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:30,620 Of course we weren't really poor, we didn't beg, 875 00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:32,303 but we weren't living in luxury. 876 00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:39,670 The Zavadskys' lifestyle clashes 877 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:42,150 with the idea that they were criminal masterminds 878 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:45,140 pulling off a multi-million dollar heist. 879 00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:47,530 Their museum colleagues have concluded 880 00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:50,060 that they couldn't have acted alone. 881 00:45:50,060 --> 00:45:52,880 Could Larisa and her husband have been bribed 882 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,690 or blackmailed by a third party? 883 00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:57,643 The real architect of the crime? 884 00:45:59,990 --> 00:46:03,070 If so, who was it and how did they hope to gain 885 00:46:03,070 --> 00:46:04,700 from the thefts? 886 00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:07,550 A number of theories have emerged. 887 00:46:07,550 --> 00:46:10,810 Top of the list in many minds were the criminal gangs 888 00:46:10,810 --> 00:46:13,223 that have flourished in post-Soviet Russia. 889 00:46:14,121 --> 00:46:17,390 (Alexander speaking in foreign language) 890 00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:19,720 After the well-known events in Russia, 891 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:22,250 we had a dramatic growth in crime. 892 00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:24,150 There were lots of criminal groups 893 00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:25,440 and they tried to carve up 894 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,730 everything they could lay their hands on, 895 00:46:27,730 --> 00:46:30,030 including things they shouldn't have. 896 00:46:30,030 --> 00:46:31,950 Some of these groups were also involved 897 00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:33,613 in the theft of antiques. 898 00:46:37,110 --> 00:46:40,920 I think that maybe it happened that she was used 899 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,920 as an instrument and she was used, that maybe any aggression 900 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,260 from criminal, of course it may be 901 00:46:48,260 --> 00:46:52,240 since that we are not free from the world of course, yes, 902 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:57,240 but I not believe that she may be leader 903 00:46:57,350 --> 00:46:59,143 as a criminal leader, not believe. 904 00:47:00,483 --> 00:47:02,570 Larisa Zavadsky's death at work 905 00:47:02,570 --> 00:47:04,910 also came under the spotlight. 906 00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:07,390 As she had diabetes and heart problems, 907 00:47:07,390 --> 00:47:11,250 at the time it was assumed she had died of natural causes. 908 00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:12,990 But had she? 909 00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:14,960 There were some who began to suspect 910 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,720 that she might have been murdered to cover up the identity 911 00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:19,053 of the real criminals. 912 00:47:21,445 --> 00:47:23,060 (Nikolai speaking in foreign language) 913 00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:25,130 I can't be sure but it's very possible 914 00:47:25,130 --> 00:47:28,063 that she was killed as a witness they'd rather do without. 915 00:47:28,940 --> 00:47:31,200 Certainly some of the television channels propose 916 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,830 that maybe she did, somebody helped her to die. 917 00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:37,250 I don't think so because if there was a conspiracy, 918 00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:41,970 the certain way her death somehow stopped everything. 919 00:47:41,970 --> 00:47:45,670 Piotrovsky felt the answer might lie elsewhere. 920 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:48,100 From an early stage, he had believed 921 00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,710 that shadowy forces within the Russian establishment 922 00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:52,133 were behind the thefts. 923 00:47:54,340 --> 00:47:57,170 Initially it had been the speed and pure theater 924 00:47:57,170 --> 00:47:59,490 of the returns of some of the stolen items 925 00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:02,083 that rang warning bells for the Hermitage director. 926 00:48:03,610 --> 00:48:06,740 So I knew that, well, some objects will come back 927 00:48:06,740 --> 00:48:08,980 but I never expected they'll come back so quickly 928 00:48:08,980 --> 00:48:10,993 in such a strange way. 929 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,010 Also from what I know now, 930 00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:17,660 quite a lot of antique dealers knew 931 00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:20,950 that the things do come from Hermitage. 932 00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:22,810 But if antique dealers had discovered 933 00:48:22,810 --> 00:48:25,540 that the Hermitage was being systematically robbed, 934 00:48:25,540 --> 00:48:27,163 why had they kept quiet? 935 00:48:28,610 --> 00:48:30,750 Piotrovsky suspects someone was plotting 936 00:48:30,750 --> 00:48:33,530 to blow the whistle, expose the thefts, 937 00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:35,963 and create a massive scandal for the museum. 938 00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:41,410 I think that we managed to announce this 939 00:48:41,410 --> 00:48:44,110 approximately one month or two months 940 00:48:44,110 --> 00:48:47,423 before it was planned to be announced by other people. 941 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,310 He was also troubled by another key question. 942 00:48:54,310 --> 00:48:57,230 How could one of his own trusted curators have had 943 00:48:57,230 --> 00:49:00,220 the steely nerves required to walk time and again 944 00:49:00,220 --> 00:49:01,520 past the guards, 945 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,423 knowing she had Hermitage treasures in her bag? 946 00:49:06,450 --> 00:49:08,450 Perhaps she felt she had the protection 947 00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:11,483 or approval of someone in authority. 948 00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:17,210 I can't understand how she managed 949 00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:19,690 to take out all this 200 pieces. 950 00:49:19,690 --> 00:49:21,950 Any moment you can be stopped and asked. 951 00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:23,590 It's also very difficult psychological 952 00:49:23,590 --> 00:49:26,830 until you have some guarantee from somebody 953 00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:28,750 that it will go well. 954 00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:30,060 For Piotrovsky, 955 00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:32,040 all the evidence was pointing once again 956 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,793 towards Larisa being a pawn in a much larger conspiracy. 957 00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:39,540 I think that maybe Larisa began to steal 958 00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:41,820 but somehow somebody understood 959 00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:44,030 and knew that she was stealing and selling. 960 00:49:44,030 --> 00:49:46,610 Maybe somebody persuaded her to feel secure 961 00:49:46,610 --> 00:49:51,610 or to go on and to make a real theft of big things 962 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:54,720 which must be discovered rather soon. 963 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,770 You know, you can't think that it'll never be discovered. 964 00:49:57,770 --> 00:49:59,470 So I think that somebody persuaded her 965 00:49:59,470 --> 00:50:02,350 to take these things out of the museum 966 00:50:02,350 --> 00:50:04,370 to use it to some other purposes, 967 00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:07,123 not just stealing and selling. 968 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,640 If the thefts were ordered, 969 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,460 was someone hoping to exploit the ensuing scandal 970 00:50:13,460 --> 00:50:15,940 to topple the museum director? 971 00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:18,770 Piotrovsky certainly felt a vicious press campaign 972 00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:22,420 against him had been carefully planned and paid for. 973 00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:25,620 But who would want him out and why? 974 00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:28,070 Quite a lot of people in the history of Russia 975 00:50:28,070 --> 00:50:31,710 and Soviet Union who have been dreaming of getting somehow 976 00:50:31,710 --> 00:50:36,550 into the cellars of Hermitage and other museums, 977 00:50:36,550 --> 00:50:40,350 into the storages of the museums, 978 00:50:40,350 --> 00:50:43,050 so how to put the hand of them for different purposes. 979 00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:45,620 The museum director is reluctant 980 00:50:45,620 --> 00:50:49,130 to be drawn into who these shadowy conspirators could be 981 00:50:49,130 --> 00:50:52,430 but speculation has ranged from senior museum staff 982 00:50:52,430 --> 00:50:53,860 to local politicians 983 00:50:53,860 --> 00:50:56,363 and even to government officials in Moscow. 984 00:50:59,490 --> 00:51:01,090 If Piotrovsky was ousted 985 00:51:01,090 --> 00:51:03,490 and replaced by a corrupt director, 986 00:51:03,490 --> 00:51:05,210 perhaps the floodgates would open 987 00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:08,163 on a wholesale plunder of Hermitage treasures. 988 00:51:10,642 --> 00:51:15,360 You know, they say a rumor about the corruptions 989 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,360 in the Russian government, Russian Cultural Institution, 990 00:51:21,970 --> 00:51:23,583 for me is much more rumor. 991 00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:27,650 Mikhail Shvydkoi is no stranger 992 00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:30,630 to accusations of corruption himself. 993 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:34,670 In 2005, the present Minister of Culture criticized 994 00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:36,840 the corruption rampant in his ministry 995 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,090 in the time of his predecessor. 996 00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:42,370 His predecessor was Mikhail Shvydkoi. 997 00:51:42,370 --> 00:51:44,920 Just was a quite big scandal 998 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,920 because my lawyers opens a criminal case 999 00:51:51,620 --> 00:51:53,360 against the Ministry of Culture. 1000 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,520 In the results of this investigations, 1001 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,520 the Minister of Culture must said that he was mistake. 1002 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,900 Shvydkoi survived his scandal. 1003 00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:10,400 Now he was the man with the right 1004 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,520 to sack the Hermitage director over the thefts. 1005 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,253 Would he allow Piotrovsky to come through unscathed? 1006 00:52:19,410 --> 00:52:21,890 Of course this was a very strong shock 1007 00:52:21,890 --> 00:52:25,660 for Mr. Piotrovsky and for his reputation too. 1008 00:52:25,660 --> 00:52:29,350 Mr. Piotrovsky is high quality professional. 1009 00:52:29,350 --> 00:52:33,870 This was my idea and my proposal, he must keep his position 1010 00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:38,870 because this kind of cases maybe exist everywhere, 1011 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,793 any times. 1012 00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:43,570 Piotrovsky survived the campaign 1013 00:52:43,570 --> 00:52:45,290 to force him out of office 1014 00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:47,080 but his museum and its curators 1015 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,410 are now under close scrutiny. 1016 00:52:49,410 --> 00:52:51,040 In the wake of the thefts, 1017 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,890 President Putin created a commission 1018 00:52:52,890 --> 00:52:55,640 to investigate storage and security in all 1019 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,770 of the nation's museums. 1020 00:52:57,770 --> 00:53:00,890 The team sent to the Hermitage are already warning 1021 00:53:00,890 --> 00:53:03,450 that other curators might face investigation 1022 00:53:03,450 --> 00:53:04,283 by the police. 1023 00:53:05,463 --> 00:53:08,210 (man speaking in foreign language) 1024 00:53:08,210 --> 00:53:09,043 You and I know 1025 00:53:09,043 --> 00:53:10,980 that it's not only the Zavadsky collection 1026 00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:12,510 that suffered from the thefts 1027 00:53:12,510 --> 00:53:15,770 but the collections of other Hermitage curators. 1028 00:53:15,770 --> 00:53:17,880 And all these circumstances will be revealed 1029 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,523 as a result of further investigations by the police. 1030 00:53:25,690 --> 00:53:27,280 In an effort to protect the Hermitage 1031 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,430 from similar thefts in the future, 1032 00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:31,710 the government has now agreed to speed up funding 1033 00:53:31,710 --> 00:53:33,980 to extend a modern storage facility, 1034 00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:38,252 open three years ago on the outskirts of St. Petersburg. 1035 00:53:38,252 --> 00:53:41,002 (dramatic music) 1036 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,140 On the 15th of March 2007, 1037 00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:59,150 Nikolai Zavadsky Sr. was sentenced to five years in prison 1038 00:53:59,150 --> 00:54:03,630 and ordered to pay damages of around $300,000. 1039 00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:05,740 The case appeared to be over 1040 00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:09,030 but the police investigation has raised as many questions 1041 00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:10,223 as it has answered. 1042 00:54:11,950 --> 00:54:14,550 Was Zavadsky pressured into a confession 1043 00:54:14,550 --> 00:54:16,453 as his son still maintains? 1044 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,260 Why was Nikolai Jr. released 1045 00:54:20,260 --> 00:54:22,553 if police felt he was also involved? 1046 00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:27,590 How did Maxim Shepel receive the horrific injury 1047 00:54:27,590 --> 00:54:29,363 to his eye while in custody? 1048 00:54:31,610 --> 00:54:34,940 Did the Zavadskys mastermind the thefts themselves 1049 00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:37,150 or did they fall victim to corrupt forces 1050 00:54:37,150 --> 00:54:38,523 beyond their control? 1051 00:54:40,990 --> 00:54:42,253 Piotrovsky continues to believe 1052 00:54:42,253 --> 00:54:46,280 that the scandal was manufactured to damage his reputation 1053 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,333 and the museum. 1054 00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:56,580 Meanwhile, 195 out of the 226 stolen items 1055 00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:58,400 are still missing. 1056 00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,713 Will they ever be found? 1057 00:55:01,873 --> 00:55:05,040 (dramatic jazz music) 82892

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