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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,962 --> 00:00:03,420 (dramatic music) 2 00:00:03,420 --> 00:00:05,260 (chanting foreign language) 3 00:00:05,260 --> 00:00:07,120 It was perhaps the biggest art heist 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,220 of all time, countless millions of dollars 5 00:00:10,220 --> 00:00:14,023 of the finest European art simply seized by the Nazis. 6 00:00:16,518 --> 00:00:19,450 Picassos, Rembrants, Titians, 7 00:00:19,450 --> 00:00:22,020 along with precious family silver and gold 8 00:00:22,020 --> 00:00:25,490 taken by the Nazis from museums and private collections 9 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:28,463 as their army advanced relentlessly across Europe. 10 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:33,910 Among the booty was one of the most extraordinary paintings 11 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:35,620 of the 20th century, 12 00:00:35,620 --> 00:00:38,233 owned by a wealthy Jewish industrialist. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,020 It was A Portrait of a Woman, 14 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:43,860 by Austrian artist Gustav Klimt. 15 00:00:43,860 --> 00:00:47,600 For 60 years, the painting's owners fought to get it back. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,160 They were hoping I'd die, I mean I was old enough 17 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:54,077 that they felt (snapping) and then it's finished. 18 00:00:55,050 --> 00:00:56,100 The battle took them 19 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:58,480 to the American Supreme Court. 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,950 It's a story of mystery, corruption, and double-dealing. 21 00:01:02,950 --> 00:01:06,123 Could they possibly fight a nation and win? 22 00:01:07,041 --> 00:01:09,708 (ominous music) 23 00:01:19,206 --> 00:01:22,840 (whimsical music) 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,310 Vienna at the beginning of the 20th century 25 00:01:25,310 --> 00:01:27,430 was a thriving metropolis that had become 26 00:01:27,430 --> 00:01:29,350 the cultural center of Austria 27 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:31,840 and home to the rich and famous. 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,760 It housed one of the world's greatest art galleries, 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,920 boasted a world-class orchestra, 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,570 and was full of beautiful buildings 31 00:01:38,570 --> 00:01:40,293 and aristocratic mansions. 32 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:43,660 The city's famous coffee houses were teeming 33 00:01:43,660 --> 00:01:46,730 with intellectuals, artists, and musicians, 34 00:01:46,730 --> 00:01:51,090 such as Sigmund Freud, Egon Schiele, and Arnold Schoenberg. 35 00:01:51,090 --> 00:01:54,600 And the man Viennese society flocked to for their portraits 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,741 was Gustav Klimt. 37 00:01:56,741 --> 00:01:59,540 (soft music) 38 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:03,700 Klimt was already in his lifetime so highly paid 39 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:08,493 so there was no other painter in Austria who could demand 40 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:14,090 such prices, and if you look at the female portraits, 41 00:02:14,090 --> 00:02:16,240 who were these persons? 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,690 They were all coming from the upper class, 43 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:23,690 they were wives of industrialists, of academic professors. 44 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,580 So they really came from a very wealthy background. 45 00:02:28,580 --> 00:02:30,280 One person who could easily afford 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,104 Klimt's prices was Ferdinand Bloch-Bauer 47 00:02:33,104 --> 00:02:37,230 who had amassed a significant collection of Austrian art. 48 00:02:37,230 --> 00:02:39,190 The Viennese had a sweet tooth 49 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:42,660 and he made his fortune by refining sugar. 50 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:46,340 His wife Adele became a socialite who organized parties 51 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:49,220 for Vienna's finest at their mansion. 52 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:53,158 Her niece Maria was nine years old at the time. 53 00:02:53,158 --> 00:02:56,370 (upbeat classical music) 54 00:02:56,370 --> 00:03:01,370 She surrounded herself with artists, composers, 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,770 she had what they called a salon at the time. 56 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:08,453 She had all these fabulous people, 57 00:03:09,610 --> 00:03:13,620 Richard Strauss, and Vas Aman, I mean she had people, 58 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:17,010 painters, poets, composers, 59 00:03:17,010 --> 00:03:21,550 and this is where she got her intellectual stimulation. 60 00:03:21,550 --> 00:03:23,220 Klimt was one of the artists 61 00:03:23,220 --> 00:03:25,120 who frequented the salon. 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,280 He became a personal friend but what would he charge 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,280 to paint Adele's portrait? 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,530 The price at that time 65 00:03:31,530 --> 00:03:35,660 was already extremely high, it was enormous. 66 00:03:35,660 --> 00:03:38,640 I think that it was as high as you could have 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,917 acquired at that time a whole villa, a good land house 68 00:03:41,917 --> 00:03:45,020 in the suburbs, in Vienna, it was that high. 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,140 It may have been expensive, 70 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:50,480 but Klimt's portrait of Adele would become 71 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,180 one of the most famous paintings of the 20th century. 72 00:03:54,180 --> 00:03:56,530 This was one of only a handful of paintings 73 00:03:56,530 --> 00:03:58,830 from Klimt's famous Golden Period 74 00:03:58,830 --> 00:04:01,170 in which he produced highly decorative work 75 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:03,490 resembling a jewel box. 76 00:04:03,490 --> 00:04:06,020 Here is Adele in the most lavish dress, 77 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:08,450 adorned with glittering jewelry. 78 00:04:08,450 --> 00:04:12,210 We know it took Klimt over a year to finalize the painting 79 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:16,623 and he visited her many times, making over 200 sketches. 80 00:04:19,750 --> 00:04:22,880 We know from portraits which he prepared for one year, 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,820 just the preparation, that's just thinking about 82 00:04:25,820 --> 00:04:29,100 how I want to have the posture of this woman? 83 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:32,500 How she should she stand, should she sit? 84 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:33,930 Where should be the arms? 85 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:37,140 And so Klimt really thought about all details 86 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:40,580 and he made sketches of all different postures. 87 00:04:40,580 --> 00:04:43,400 I think it makes sense if you think he had 88 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,450 really a personal relationship to this woman. 89 00:04:46,450 --> 00:04:49,940 He made a kind of reference to her because of course 90 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:54,647 by meeting often the person he gets to know her very well 91 00:04:54,647 --> 00:04:57,610 and it is said, I mean there are rumors that with 92 00:04:57,610 --> 00:04:59,890 some of the sitters, with some of the models, 93 00:04:59,890 --> 00:05:03,053 he had even more close relationship, 94 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:06,283 maybe some sentimental affairs too. 95 00:05:07,490 --> 00:05:09,850 In the paintings of his Golden Period 96 00:05:09,850 --> 00:05:12,750 Gustav Klimt seems to be capturing the seductive 97 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:15,430 and passionate nature of these women. 98 00:05:15,430 --> 00:05:19,650 Many believe that Adele was also the model for The Kiss, 99 00:05:19,650 --> 00:05:23,070 one of the most sensual works ever produced. 100 00:05:23,070 --> 00:05:25,553 So could Adele have been Klimt's lover? 101 00:05:26,850 --> 00:05:30,290 When I asked my mother did Adele have 102 00:05:30,290 --> 00:05:31,720 a relationship with Klimt? 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,280 She said how dare you ask such a question? 104 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:38,893 It was an intellectual friendship. 105 00:05:39,810 --> 00:05:41,940 But my mother would always say that 106 00:05:41,940 --> 00:05:44,890 even if when she was 100% sure 107 00:05:44,890 --> 00:05:48,550 that the people had more than an intellectual friendship. 108 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:53,550 At the time they had their affairs and didn't discuss it. 109 00:05:53,870 --> 00:05:56,390 We know that he had many children, 110 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:59,560 illegitimate children with women whom he didn't marry, 111 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,930 he never was married. 112 00:06:00,930 --> 00:06:04,130 But we do not know exactly how many children there are, 113 00:06:04,130 --> 00:06:05,680 who were the women. 114 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,660 I mean this is incredible that such a famous painter 115 00:06:09,660 --> 00:06:12,853 had so many liaisons, who were just hidden. 116 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:14,563 Whatever the relationship 117 00:06:14,563 --> 00:06:16,840 between Adele and the artist, 118 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:20,223 Ferdinand and his wife were delighted with the picture. 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,760 It wasn't long before the portrait of Adele 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,400 grasped the imagination of the art establishment. 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,420 The painting became a centerpiece of Klimt exhibitions. 122 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:33,790 The Bloch-Bauers wanted more Klimts 123 00:06:33,790 --> 00:06:36,180 and they invested in four of his landscapes 124 00:06:36,180 --> 00:06:40,416 painted between 1903 and 1916. 125 00:06:40,416 --> 00:06:42,833 (soft music) 126 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:49,990 In the summer Klimt loved to escape from his studio 127 00:06:49,990 --> 00:06:52,303 and head out to the lakes near Strasbourg. 128 00:06:54,719 --> 00:06:57,800 This subject to which Klimt returned time and again 129 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,840 held a special fascination for him. 130 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:01,360 I think perhaps it was the combination 131 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,320 of the natural geometry of the the lake shore, 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,053 and then the buildings rising up 133 00:07:07,053 --> 00:07:10,200 but with the steep hill behind them, 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,380 pushing forwards, that held an attraction for him. 135 00:07:14,380 --> 00:07:17,449 But also the great natural combination of colors. 136 00:07:17,449 --> 00:07:19,866 (soft music) 137 00:07:22,290 --> 00:07:24,140 Walking by the lake shore 138 00:07:24,140 --> 00:07:26,520 he would be fascinated by the effect of light 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,083 on the trees and flowers. 140 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,200 And he was back at the autumn 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,070 with a more subdued set of colors. 142 00:07:49,070 --> 00:07:51,260 Here Klimt takes as his subject a birch forest. 143 00:07:51,260 --> 00:07:55,220 The innards of the forest in a glade there was a reflection 144 00:07:55,220 --> 00:07:57,770 of perhaps getting deep into nature 145 00:07:57,770 --> 00:07:59,770 being at the very heart of things. 146 00:07:59,770 --> 00:08:01,930 In truth it's a fairly restricted palette. 147 00:08:01,930 --> 00:08:04,610 Green representing the lichen climbing up the trees, 148 00:08:04,610 --> 00:08:07,180 and the leaf canopy, the russet colors, 149 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:08,800 earth colors for the floor. 150 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,543 And then the lovely silvery colors on the tree trunks. 151 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,140 So Adele and Ferdinand's house in Vienna 152 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:17,780 became home to one of the largest private collections 153 00:08:17,780 --> 00:08:19,880 of Klimt paintings. 154 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,460 Adele's face seems to have inspired Klimt 155 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:24,570 in his Golden Period. 156 00:08:24,570 --> 00:08:28,010 When he abruptly changed style in 1912, 157 00:08:28,010 --> 00:08:31,663 Adele was once again the subject he chose to paint. 158 00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:35,560 So here we have the second portrait 159 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:36,700 of Adele Bloch-Bauer 160 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:40,264 commissioned by her husband from Klimt in 1907. 161 00:08:40,264 --> 00:08:43,970 When Adele was in her late 20s and shot through this, 162 00:08:43,970 --> 00:08:47,640 what is a fairly muted color costume. 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,470 We have the great blue, cobalt blue sash at her waist, 164 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:54,773 and fine details, highlights of blue throughout the costume. 165 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,500 Another fascinating factor is the Japanese influence. 166 00:09:00,500 --> 00:09:02,020 All around her she stands, 167 00:09:02,020 --> 00:09:04,150 these Japanese tapestries behind. 168 00:09:04,150 --> 00:09:07,330 Here with the horse and rider themes running across the top. 169 00:09:07,330 --> 00:09:08,723 We see probably Klimt using something 170 00:09:08,723 --> 00:09:10,973 that was hanging in his studio as a backdrop. 171 00:09:12,357 --> 00:09:14,800 For 10 years the house on Elisabethstrasse 172 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,500 teemed with the color of Klimt's paintings. 173 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:20,740 But in January 1925 the household sank 174 00:09:20,740 --> 00:09:23,420 into darkness and despair. 175 00:09:23,420 --> 00:09:27,283 Adele died of a brain disease at the age of 43. 176 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:33,320 She died so very young, she was only in her early 40s 177 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,180 and she was only sick like three days 178 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,090 because meningitis is devilish, 179 00:09:42,090 --> 00:09:45,643 I mean it hits you and it kills you. 180 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,260 Ferdinand was heartbroken. 181 00:09:49,260 --> 00:09:52,230 He left his wife's room in their Viennese home 182 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:54,793 just as it was when she died. 183 00:09:57,190 --> 00:10:00,950 I remember her bedroom which he converted 184 00:10:00,950 --> 00:10:03,230 into a memorial room 185 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:08,530 and he always had beautiful fresh flowers there 186 00:10:08,530 --> 00:10:10,100 all year round. 187 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:12,993 And there was nothing but the Klimt paintings, 188 00:10:14,291 --> 00:10:18,113 the two portraits and the landscapes. 189 00:10:19,630 --> 00:10:22,213 (somber music) 190 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:30,410 Ferdinand also placed a photograph 191 00:10:30,410 --> 00:10:33,173 of Gustav Klimt on her bedside table. 192 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,960 Adele seemed clear about what she wanted to happen 193 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,640 to her paintings. 194 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,420 Her will stated, 195 00:10:43,420 --> 00:10:46,770 my wish is to leave my two portraits and four landscapes 196 00:10:46,770 --> 00:10:48,853 by Klimt to the Belvedere. 197 00:10:52,650 --> 00:10:55,712 The Belvedere was Austria's prestigious national gallery 198 00:10:55,712 --> 00:10:57,390 where all society people 199 00:10:57,390 --> 00:11:00,047 wanted their portraits to be admired. 200 00:11:00,047 --> 00:11:02,890 (dramatic music) 201 00:11:02,890 --> 00:11:05,680 This beautiful baroque building in the heart of Vienna 202 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,533 was a favorite meeting place for the rich and famous. 203 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:16,680 But for the moment at least the painting remained 204 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:19,933 in the room Ferdinand had left in memory of his wife. 205 00:11:23,019 --> 00:11:25,060 (dramatic music) 206 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:28,350 As the 1930s wore on, peace in Europe 207 00:11:28,350 --> 00:11:30,620 became increasingly fragile. 208 00:11:30,620 --> 00:11:32,973 The Nazis had come to power in Germany. 209 00:11:33,821 --> 00:11:37,738 (speaking in foreign language) 210 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,333 Hitler's territorial ambitions soon became clear. 211 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:48,320 Ferdinand foresaw Germany's intention to invade Austria 212 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,230 and used his wealth to support resistance fighters 213 00:11:51,230 --> 00:11:55,890 to protect its borders, but that proved futile. 214 00:11:55,890 --> 00:12:00,160 In 1938 Hitler ordered the annexation of Austria, 215 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,753 and German troops marched into Vienna. 216 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:07,820 Before the Nazis arrived in the Austrian capital 217 00:12:07,820 --> 00:12:09,810 Ferdinand fled to his country mansion 218 00:12:09,810 --> 00:12:12,046 across the border in Czechoslovakia 219 00:12:12,046 --> 00:12:15,919 leaving the precious portrait of his wife by Klimt behind 220 00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:17,950 with the rest of his art collection 221 00:12:17,950 --> 00:12:21,223 on the walls of his Vienna house. 222 00:12:23,620 --> 00:12:26,000 As he left the house for the last time 223 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,620 he would have walked past the Academy of Fine Arts 224 00:12:28,620 --> 00:12:30,550 right across the street. 225 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:33,330 The shadow of Hitler hung over this place. 226 00:12:33,330 --> 00:12:37,230 The Academy had rejected him in 1907, the very year Klimt 227 00:12:37,230 --> 00:12:39,753 was painting the Gold Portrait of Adele. 228 00:12:42,610 --> 00:12:45,600 Hitler may have left Vienna as a failed artist 229 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,820 but in March 1938 he came back 230 00:12:48,820 --> 00:12:51,610 in very different circumstances 231 00:12:51,610 --> 00:12:55,769 and Viennese Jews grew to fear the knock on the door. 232 00:12:55,769 --> 00:12:58,602 (crowd clamoring) 233 00:13:05,415 --> 00:13:06,650 (knocking) 234 00:13:06,650 --> 00:13:11,460 They just came and took things, they didn't ask you. 235 00:13:11,460 --> 00:13:14,170 They just rang the doorbell and I opened 236 00:13:14,170 --> 00:13:18,140 and there they were, and they were not in uniform 237 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:23,140 because it was Gestapo and they didn't wear uniforms. 238 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:28,710 They immediately asked me for my jewelry, 239 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,820 which I had just gotten from my uncle 240 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:35,010 for my wedding present. 241 00:13:35,010 --> 00:13:40,010 It was Adele's beautiful diamond necklace 242 00:13:40,030 --> 00:13:43,120 with the earrings to match. 243 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,693 And that went to Mrs. Goering. 244 00:13:47,372 --> 00:13:48,770 Adolf Hitler! Hermann Goering 245 00:13:48,770 --> 00:13:50,210 was one of the main architects 246 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:52,660 of the Third Reich, an era he believed 247 00:13:52,660 --> 00:13:56,520 would produce 1,000 glorious years of German achievement. 248 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,730 As an aristocrat he saw music and art 249 00:13:59,730 --> 00:14:02,019 as part of this great age. 250 00:14:02,019 --> 00:14:04,660 (speaking foreign language) 251 00:14:04,660 --> 00:14:05,493 As in most things, the Nazis 252 00:14:05,493 --> 00:14:07,670 are very organized about their looting. 253 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:09,500 When they were deciding which countries 254 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:10,950 they were going to invade and what their plans 255 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:15,720 for invasion were they would send out spies, or scouts 256 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,640 if you like, to see what collections were worth seizing 257 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,930 so that when they went into the country, once they invaded, 258 00:14:22,930 --> 00:14:25,400 they would immediately go after those collections. 259 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,720 It was a massive operation. 260 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,380 These pictures show preparations for a huge exhibition 261 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:35,623 of the looted art the Nazis had taken from all over France. 262 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,580 Every work of art was inventoried, it was described, 263 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:44,260 it was photographed, and then displays were put on 264 00:14:44,260 --> 00:14:47,930 for the main Nazi leaders, for Hitler, and for Goering 265 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:50,880 so that they could take their pick of the best 266 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,913 of some of the world's art. 267 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,690 There were sometimes disputes between Hitler and Goering 268 00:14:57,690 --> 00:14:59,300 as to who was going to get which painting 269 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:02,170 or which sculpture, but there are extraordinary photographs 270 00:15:02,170 --> 00:15:06,250 that we see today of Goering going round 271 00:15:06,250 --> 00:15:08,970 these special displays which were put on for him 272 00:15:08,970 --> 00:15:11,420 of all this stolen art. 273 00:15:11,420 --> 00:15:14,070 They seized every possible kind of collection. 274 00:15:14,070 --> 00:15:18,314 They were ready to exploit any work of art that was there. 275 00:15:18,314 --> 00:15:19,830 Obviously some of the works of art 276 00:15:19,830 --> 00:15:21,379 were not to their taste 277 00:15:21,379 --> 00:15:24,095 and they had certain ideological approaches 278 00:15:24,095 --> 00:15:27,130 to particular schools of art. 279 00:15:27,130 --> 00:15:29,640 Ferdinand owned one of the largest collections 280 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,600 of art in Vienna. 281 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,390 It ranged from the contemporary Klimt paintings 282 00:15:34,390 --> 00:15:38,473 to six works by the 19th century German painter Waldmuller. 283 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:43,240 Ferdinand may have been safe in Czechoslovakia 284 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,870 but his paintings were very vulnerable back in Vienna. 285 00:15:46,870 --> 00:15:49,740 Unfortunately for him Hermann Goering 286 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:52,283 was very fond of Waldmuller's work. 287 00:15:53,230 --> 00:15:55,510 Goering was also somebody who in every country 288 00:15:55,510 --> 00:15:58,990 was particularly voracious to increase his art collection. 289 00:15:58,990 --> 00:16:01,310 He was particularly interested in old masters as well, 290 00:16:01,310 --> 00:16:04,090 and in fact he had an interesting scheme 291 00:16:04,090 --> 00:16:07,260 whereby some of the paintings that the Nazis didn't want 292 00:16:07,260 --> 00:16:10,770 like the Impressionists, when they were seized 293 00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:13,472 he arranged for them to be smuggled out to Switzerland 294 00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:17,510 in a diplomatic bag where they would then be swapped 295 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:21,500 for the old master paintings that he particularly wanted. 296 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:24,660 And that was, you would find these extraordinary exchanges 297 00:16:24,660 --> 00:16:25,670 whereby you might have 298 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:30,670 something like 23 or 25 Impressionists, Cora, Degas, 299 00:16:30,903 --> 00:16:34,180 Matisse, which will be swapped for one old master 300 00:16:34,180 --> 00:16:35,947 that the Nazis particularly wanted. 301 00:16:36,980 --> 00:16:39,270 The Bloch-Bauer family did not escape 302 00:16:39,270 --> 00:16:40,780 the horrors that were destroying 303 00:16:40,780 --> 00:16:43,120 Jewish families across Europe. 304 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,949 Maria's husband was imprisoned in Dachau concentration camp 305 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:51,130 until the family handed over property to the Nazis. 306 00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:54,400 They released him when my brother-in-law 307 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,780 signed over the factory to them. 308 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:02,780 And so he was brought home shaved and the head was shaved, 309 00:17:03,460 --> 00:17:05,680 really, really looked awful. 310 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,410 But we managed to escape across the border 311 00:17:09,410 --> 00:17:13,963 with the help of a German farmer 312 00:17:15,090 --> 00:17:16,853 who took us into Holland. 313 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,180 Having gotten their hands 314 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:22,170 on the Bloch-Bauer's factories they turned their attention 315 00:17:22,170 --> 00:17:23,963 to Ferdinand's art collection. 316 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,670 They claimed that Ferdinand owed huge amounts of taxes 317 00:17:28,670 --> 00:17:32,460 and sent Dr. Fuhrer to the house in Elisabethstrasse 318 00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:35,240 to organize one of the greatest art heists 319 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,853 of the 20th century. 320 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:41,860 Dr. Fuhrer knew Hitler and Goering would want 321 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:43,640 the German paintings by Waldmuller 322 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,343 for their private collections, 323 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,290 but they would have no interest in these decadent Klimts. 324 00:17:50,290 --> 00:17:52,143 He decided to sell them off. 325 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,030 It turned out later on that it was a terrific Nazi, 326 00:17:59,030 --> 00:18:04,030 name was Dr. Fuhrer, and he had years in prison afterwards. 327 00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:06,550 He made a deal with the Belvedere, 328 00:18:06,550 --> 00:18:07,980 the national gallery, 329 00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:11,490 for the two Adele portraits and The Apple Tree. 330 00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:14,193 And he sold The Birch Trees to another gallery. 331 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:18,820 The Houses on the Lake he squirreled away 332 00:18:18,820 --> 00:18:20,633 for his own collection. 333 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:26,620 The Belvedere has always claimed ownership of the paintings. 334 00:18:26,620 --> 00:18:30,420 It had after all bought them from Dr. Fuhrer. 335 00:18:30,420 --> 00:18:33,630 Besides it was the wish of Adele herself 336 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:35,373 set out in her will. 337 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,380 With the Bloch-Bauer Klimt's in their possession 338 00:18:39,380 --> 00:18:41,930 they were able to stage one of the largest exhibitions 339 00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:46,120 of Klimt's work ever mounted, but there was a problem. 340 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:48,940 How could they display portraits of Jewish women 341 00:18:48,940 --> 00:18:52,340 now that the country was under Nazi rule? 342 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:55,540 To give the names of these women would in some ways 343 00:18:55,540 --> 00:18:58,850 give lies to the ideology of racial superiority 344 00:18:58,850 --> 00:19:01,060 that they were at that time promoting. 345 00:19:01,060 --> 00:19:04,730 So they were forced to omit or change 346 00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:06,830 the names of the paintings. 347 00:19:06,830 --> 00:19:11,340 So the portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer One became simply known 348 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:12,893 as The Lady in Gold. 349 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:16,390 The three Klimts stayed in the Belvedere 350 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:18,250 until the end of the war. 351 00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:20,480 When the Allies took control of Vienna 352 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,533 they rounded up all the looted art. 353 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:25,900 The Klimts in the Belvedere were reunited 354 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:29,230 with the one Dr. Fuhrer had sold to another gallery, 355 00:19:29,230 --> 00:19:31,900 and the one he kept for himself. 356 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:35,793 The Allies took all five to Munich to be cataloged. 357 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,100 I think you know one of the questions is 358 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:39,970 what happened to all these works of art 359 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:41,030 at the end of the war? 360 00:19:41,030 --> 00:19:42,020 Particularly the works of art that were 361 00:19:42,020 --> 00:19:43,960 in the hands of the Nazi leaders. 362 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,890 And quite a lot of them were collected up by the Allies 363 00:19:47,890 --> 00:19:48,930 at the end of the war. 364 00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:51,550 As they were collecting up they found all these depositories 365 00:19:51,550 --> 00:19:55,880 of looted art in Germany and Austria, 366 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,935 and they then took them to collecting points 367 00:19:58,935 --> 00:20:01,770 where they did, I suppose the reverse of the process 368 00:20:01,770 --> 00:20:03,280 that Germans had done at the beginning. 369 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,310 Which was they inventoried them, they photographed them, 370 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:09,670 and they established where they had come from 371 00:20:09,670 --> 00:20:11,740 with the help of the Nazi records of course. 372 00:20:11,740 --> 00:20:13,880 And then decided to return them to the countries 373 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,220 from which they had been taken. 374 00:20:16,220 --> 00:20:19,430 And those countries were charged with setting up 375 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:21,100 commissions for restitution. 376 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:23,010 So the works of art would then be returned 377 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:24,670 to their rightful owners. 378 00:20:24,670 --> 00:20:27,820 The Allies didn't want to do that work themselves. 379 00:20:27,820 --> 00:20:30,600 In the case of the Goering collection, when they didn't know 380 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,750 where they came from, they were subsequently given 381 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:36,330 to German museums to hold. 382 00:20:36,330 --> 00:20:38,730 And today there are over 100 paintings 383 00:20:38,730 --> 00:20:40,200 from the Goering collection 384 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,800 whose rightful owners have not been established yet. 385 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,960 This policy of returning the stolen art 386 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,709 back to its country of origin 387 00:20:47,709 --> 00:20:49,960 meant all of Ferdinand's Klimts 388 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,130 were sent back to the Belvedere, 389 00:20:52,130 --> 00:20:54,640 to the very people who had bought three of them 390 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,848 from the Nazis in the first place. 391 00:20:56,848 --> 00:20:59,265 (soft music) 392 00:21:00,410 --> 00:21:05,110 In 1938 the Bloch-Bauers had owned two huge factories, 393 00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:09,360 mansions in Vienna, a castle in Czechoslovakia. 394 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,500 They had 69 major works of art. 395 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:15,933 By the end of the Nazi period, they had nothing. 396 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,900 Ferdinand lived out the final years 397 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:21,130 of his life in Switzerland. 398 00:21:21,130 --> 00:21:24,470 He never saw his precious paintings again. 399 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:27,163 He died in 1946. 400 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:32,090 Some years later Maria and her husband 401 00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:33,950 settled in the United States 402 00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:36,400 with the little money they had left. 403 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,210 Maria started making clothes 404 00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:40,393 in her small Los Angeles apartment. 405 00:21:41,650 --> 00:21:44,610 As the years went by she saw the Klimt paintings 406 00:21:44,610 --> 00:21:49,020 escalate in value as they became world icons. 407 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:51,820 In the United States during the '70s, 408 00:21:51,820 --> 00:21:56,820 Klimt paintings enjoyed a resurgence as dorm posters. 409 00:21:59,220 --> 00:22:01,360 The Kiss and the portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer 410 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,500 were hung in American college dorms 411 00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:05,220 alongside posters of Che Guevara, 412 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:07,030 or Jimi Hendrix, or whatever. 413 00:22:07,030 --> 00:22:10,790 Somehow he came into vogue, into American pop culture. 414 00:22:10,790 --> 00:22:13,653 So that painting was recognizable to many Americans. 415 00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:17,710 While the Klimts were worth millions 416 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:21,653 Maria was still trying to make ends meet selling clothes. 417 00:22:23,010 --> 00:22:25,009 But her battle would soon begin 418 00:22:25,009 --> 00:22:27,563 to reclaim the family treasure. 419 00:22:32,326 --> 00:22:36,150 For 50 years Maria Altmann never gave up hope that one day 420 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:37,530 her family would get back 421 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:42,100 the rare and valuable Klimt paintings stolen by the Nazis. 422 00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:45,290 It seemed like she had little chance but something happened 423 00:22:45,290 --> 00:22:49,023 in New York which turned the art establishment on its head. 424 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:54,300 In 1998 the Museum of Modern Art borrowed some works 425 00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:57,787 of Egon Schiele from an Austrian gallery. 426 00:22:57,787 --> 00:22:59,410 Schiele's heirs claimed the paintings 427 00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:01,360 had been looted by the Nazis. 428 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:02,840 After the exhibition 429 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,676 the Schiele works were impounded by the U.S. courts. 430 00:23:06,676 --> 00:23:09,730 The Schiele case in New York also raised the profile 431 00:23:09,730 --> 00:23:10,990 of this whole issue. 432 00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:13,720 It raised also the whole question of museums 433 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520 and what the role of museums had been 434 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,220 and what the role of museums was today 435 00:23:19,220 --> 00:23:21,020 in this whole process. 436 00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:24,560 Many museums in Western Europe and America, 437 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,110 places that weren't occupied, Australia, and so on, 438 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:30,920 did acquire unknowingly, usually unknowingly, 439 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,500 looted works of art. 440 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:34,780 But up until this whole subject 441 00:23:34,780 --> 00:23:37,640 came onto the international agenda and until there was 442 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,960 a conference in Washington organized by the State Department 443 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,040 in 1998, museums were quite, and art dealers 444 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,410 were quite freely trading 445 00:23:46,410 --> 00:23:49,350 in what may have been a looted work of art. 446 00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:51,680 The Schiele case suddenly made Maria Altmann 447 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,580 think it was time to contact a lawyer. 448 00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:57,130 Could she challenge the Belvedere's claim to her aunt 449 00:23:57,130 --> 00:23:58,513 and uncle's paintings? 450 00:23:59,690 --> 00:24:04,690 There never really was an actual proof 451 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:08,323 that these paintings belonged to the Belvedere. 452 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:13,680 And then I called Randy. 453 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,540 Maria had known 454 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:17,110 the Schoenberg family all her life. 455 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:19,570 Arnold Schoenberg, the famous composer, 456 00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:22,370 had been a part of her aunt's social circle. 457 00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:25,500 So she turned to his nephew, the young lawyer, 458 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:28,940 Randy Schoenberg for his legal advice. 459 00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:31,490 She called me in September of 1998. 460 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:33,020 I was working in a small office 461 00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:35,220 of a large New York based firm. 462 00:24:35,220 --> 00:24:38,980 I looked online, a relatively new activity at that time 463 00:24:38,980 --> 00:24:41,640 in 1998 at the Austrian newspapers 464 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,710 which had just become available like that, 465 00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:45,890 to see what was going on in Austria. 466 00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:47,310 So when she called me I knew exactly 467 00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:48,680 what she was talking about. 468 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,350 And that's really how it started. 469 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:52,440 Because Randy Schoenberg's family 470 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,810 had also suffered under the Nazis, he was prepared to leave 471 00:24:55,810 --> 00:24:59,900 his well-paid job in order to help prosecute the case. 472 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:02,290 Randy likes to play the odd game of poker 473 00:25:02,290 --> 00:25:04,770 and was prepared to gamble his career 474 00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:06,870 to seek justice for Maria. 475 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:10,330 He would take on the case and try to recover the paintings 476 00:25:10,330 --> 00:25:12,880 on a no-win, no-fee basis. 477 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,720 It was deeply personal because both of his grandfathers 478 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,493 were exiled composers. 479 00:25:21,050 --> 00:25:25,800 His maternal grandfather lost his parents in the Holocaust. 480 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,570 Maria had to flee Austria after the Anschluss, 481 00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:32,460 when Germany and Hitler invaded Austria. 482 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:33,590 So I would say that for them 483 00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:35,960 there was a lot of deeply personal feeling 484 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,273 behind the case as they were proceeding. 485 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:42,740 Gustav Klimt painted 486 00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:45,780 Adele Bloch-Bauer in 1907. 487 00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:49,240 In her will written in 1925, Adele stated 488 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,480 that her two portraits and four landscapes by Klimt 489 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,338 were to be left to the Belvedere 490 00:25:54,338 --> 00:25:57,490 where they would hang alongside Klimt's other portraits 491 00:25:57,490 --> 00:25:59,343 of wealthy Viennese women. 492 00:26:01,550 --> 00:26:04,273 I think the point at this time was 493 00:26:04,273 --> 00:26:07,490 that the Austrian government was of the opinion 494 00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:12,490 that the last will of Adele gave the Austrian gallery 495 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,513 clear title to the paintings. 496 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,900 The Austrian government was convinced 497 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:20,780 the Belvedere did not contain any looted art 498 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:22,643 and opened its archives to prove it. 499 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:30,730 An Austrian journalist Hubertus Czernin spent a whole year 500 00:26:30,730 --> 00:26:33,220 in these archives researching the looted works 501 00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:34,483 of Jewish families. 502 00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:38,740 Before he died, he discovered key documents 503 00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:41,660 that would transform the chances of Maria Altmann 504 00:26:41,660 --> 00:26:44,360 recovering her family's paintings. 505 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:48,423 He thought Adele's will wasn't the only relevant document. 506 00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:53,480 Hubertus Czernin went into archives that had been closed 507 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,370 to journalists and began to look at the records. 508 00:26:58,370 --> 00:27:02,690 When he was done he wrote a investigative series 509 00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:06,840 for a newspaper in Austria that basically showed 510 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,840 that the Austrians, even back into the '50s, 511 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,550 were not as confident that the will 512 00:27:12,550 --> 00:27:15,050 gave them ownership of those paintings. 513 00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:16,680 And that they themselves thought 514 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,767 that they should have gotten 515 00:27:17,767 --> 00:27:22,260 some kind of a signed permission from Ferdinand. 516 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:23,880 Although Adele had left the paintings 517 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,490 to the Belvedere, her husband decided 518 00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:28,123 to overrule that request. 519 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:32,060 He was the one who had paid for the paintings 520 00:27:32,060 --> 00:27:34,950 and his last will explicitly stated 521 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:38,540 that all previous testaments concerning the Klimt paintings 522 00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:40,780 were to be null and void. 523 00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:45,697 He just left a will leaving everything to my sister, 524 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,690 me, and my brother. 525 00:27:48,690 --> 00:27:52,120 The last letter that exists from my uncle 526 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,467 written to the painter Kokoschka, 527 00:27:55,610 --> 00:27:59,830 two days before he died was, 528 00:27:59,830 --> 00:28:04,830 I am told that I might get maybe the portraits of my wife 529 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,920 sent to me, so that was the last letter of my uncle. 530 00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:15,390 In 1999, 531 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:18,150 Austria's Minister of Culture and Education, 532 00:28:18,150 --> 00:28:20,680 Elisabeth Gehrer took control 533 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,340 and immediately closed the archives. 534 00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:25,930 Instead she announced that she was setting up 535 00:28:25,930 --> 00:28:28,520 a government committee to rule on the ownership 536 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,710 of the Klimt paintings. 537 00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:32,970 We had a conservative government, 538 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:36,630 right-wing government, and she was a member 539 00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:37,960 of the Conservative Party. 540 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,310 She's not in power anymore, 541 00:28:39,310 --> 00:28:42,700 she wasn't the most popular person in the government. 542 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,210 And a lot of her decisions have been doubted. 543 00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:47,300 So the Klimt case didn't help either 544 00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:49,661 to arouse her popularity. 545 00:28:49,661 --> 00:28:51,770 Minister Gehrer and her committee 546 00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:55,630 became a real thorn in Randy and Maria's side. 547 00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:58,850 The committee wouldn't even look at their evidence. 548 00:28:58,850 --> 00:29:01,800 I begged them to come and and be able to speak to them 549 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,220 on Maria's behalf, and I was told, no, we've decided 550 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:06,220 not to speak to any outside people, 551 00:29:06,220 --> 00:29:08,670 and that they consider Maria and her attorney 552 00:29:08,670 --> 00:29:11,530 to be an outside figure 553 00:29:11,530 --> 00:29:13,570 in the case concerning her family's paintings 554 00:29:13,570 --> 00:29:15,250 which I thought was remarkable. 555 00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:18,370 So we tried to influence this committee 556 00:29:18,370 --> 00:29:21,570 that was meeting and going to decide what would happen 557 00:29:21,570 --> 00:29:23,270 with the paintings, but to no avail. 558 00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:25,630 And then at the end of June of 1999, 559 00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:27,264 that committee recommended against 560 00:29:27,264 --> 00:29:29,460 returning the Klimt paintings. 561 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:33,170 They were hoping I died, I mean I was old enough 562 00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:37,000 that they felt (snapping) and then it's finished. 563 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,563 But I didn't do them that favor. 564 00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:43,270 Minister Gehrer actually wrote a public letter 565 00:29:43,270 --> 00:29:45,100 that was published in the newspaper. 566 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:46,387 I'm quoting her now. 567 00:29:46,387 --> 00:29:49,927 "These paintings were not robbed during the war 568 00:29:49,927 --> 00:29:52,780 "and therefore they don't come under the new law." 569 00:29:52,780 --> 00:29:56,396 It's completely false and I think she was just 570 00:29:56,396 --> 00:29:59,460 completely ignorant of the facts of the case, 571 00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:02,480 willfully ignorant as I think many Austrians 572 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,602 sometimes are of the Nazi period. 573 00:30:05,602 --> 00:30:09,020 Even though taking paintings was a very small portion 574 00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:11,864 of what the Nazis did, how is it possible 575 00:30:11,864 --> 00:30:15,690 that a Minister of Education can make that type of mistake? 576 00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:17,690 The government committee found in favor 577 00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:20,400 of the Belvedere gallery and Minister Gehrer 578 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,990 endorsed their decision. 579 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:25,660 I think Minister Gehrer was convinced 580 00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:29,050 that Austria's got the right to keep the pictures. 581 00:30:29,050 --> 00:30:31,530 She didn't look at any other possibility. 582 00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:35,180 She just thought this is the way it has been handled 583 00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:37,350 in the past and the law is on our side. 584 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:38,680 And why should we give the pictures back? 585 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,420 Because in the will of Adele Bloch-Bauer 586 00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:44,500 it said the pictures should actually be given 587 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,833 to the Belvedere gallery after her death. 588 00:30:46,833 --> 00:30:48,540 (upbeat classical music) 589 00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:50,130 The five disputed paintings 590 00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:53,330 were part of the largest collection of Klimts in the world. 591 00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:56,570 The Belvedere had a total of 25 on show. 592 00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:58,480 They were national icons. 593 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,230 Some said the portrait of Adele meant as much to Austrians 594 00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:04,513 as the Mona Lisa did to the French. 595 00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:08,940 Klimt was an Austrian painter 596 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:12,820 portraying his native countryside and the people of Vienna. 597 00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:15,210 For any tourist the Klimt collection 598 00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:17,660 was one of the must-sees on their visit, 599 00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:20,960 adding huge amounts to the Austrian economy. 600 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,190 I wrote them the nicest letters. 601 00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:28,140 I told them that I don't want to take 602 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:30,933 those paintings away from Austria, 603 00:31:31,770 --> 00:31:35,950 but we have an English proverb I wrote in German 604 00:31:35,950 --> 00:31:40,700 that is saying where there's a will, there's a way, 605 00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:45,700 and if you want to work with me we can find a way 606 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:48,900 that the paintings remained there. 607 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,453 They never even bothered to answer the letter. 608 00:31:54,530 --> 00:31:56,220 After Minister Gehrer had blocked 609 00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:58,230 any further discussion over the restitution 610 00:31:58,230 --> 00:32:00,540 of the five Bloch-Bauer Klimts 611 00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:03,690 Randy wrote to her directly saying in all fairness 612 00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:05,433 she should consider arbitration. 613 00:32:07,330 --> 00:32:10,500 And her response to me was in writing, 614 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,430 if you don't like the way we've dealt with the law 615 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:14,630 you have to go to court. 616 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,870 The Austrians must have felt confident 617 00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:20,740 that Randy and Maria wouldn't sue in Austria 618 00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:22,060 as Maria would have to put down 619 00:32:22,060 --> 00:32:25,033 a large deposit reflecting the value of the painting, 620 00:32:26,010 --> 00:32:28,480 but they hadn't bargained for the tenacity 621 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,890 of the American lawyer. 622 00:32:29,890 --> 00:32:30,940 In this case it would have been 623 00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:33,240 almost several million dollars for Maria 624 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,510 just to initiate a lawsuit. 625 00:32:35,510 --> 00:32:37,880 So we tried to reduce that, and the judge said, 626 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,220 well yes, Maria Altmann you don't have to pay more than 627 00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:43,290 everything you own, you just have to pay everything you own. 628 00:32:43,290 --> 00:32:46,360 And literally all of her assets other than her home, 629 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,030 she would have had to pay 630 00:32:48,030 --> 00:32:49,570 to start the litigation in Austria. 631 00:32:49,570 --> 00:32:51,920 And then Austria appealed and said the amount should be 632 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,570 even higher than that. 633 00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:58,290 So at that point let's forget about suing in Austria, 634 00:32:58,290 --> 00:33:00,290 let's see if we can sue in the United States. 635 00:33:00,290 --> 00:33:01,123 That was something 636 00:33:01,123 --> 00:33:03,330 Austria never thought possible. 637 00:33:03,330 --> 00:33:05,240 If Randy couldn't fight them in Vienna 638 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,643 he would fight them in his hometown, Los Angeles. 639 00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:23,370 Randy needed to bring pressure to bear on the case. 640 00:33:23,370 --> 00:33:25,570 He got to work making sure that the world 641 00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:27,130 knew about the injustices 642 00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:29,273 inflicted on the Bloch-Bauer family. 643 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,197 One of the papers he turned to was the "Los Angeles Times." 644 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:41,186 I went over to Randall's office to meet the lawyer. 645 00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:42,850 He was in his early 30s, 646 00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:45,300 he looked like he'd just graduated from college. 647 00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:47,060 He was pacing around the office, 648 00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:50,160 and pulling books out of bookshelves, showing me pictures, 649 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,130 spreading things out like characters from a Russian novel. 650 00:33:54,130 --> 00:33:58,430 And I remember standing there thinking, huh, 651 00:34:02,048 --> 00:34:06,470 this is the kind of case that's untested. 652 00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:08,510 I mean I wouldn't say I thought it was a lost cause, 653 00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:11,150 but I certainly thought it was a case for which 654 00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:16,150 there was no legal precedent in the United States. 655 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,010 But how could he sue Austria? 656 00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:21,400 He searched and searched for a way, 657 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,250 then he found that if he could prove that Austria made money 658 00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:26,270 out of the Klimt paintings in the U.S. 659 00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:27,970 he might have a chance. 660 00:34:27,970 --> 00:34:31,140 And Austria of course had cashed in on posters 661 00:34:31,140 --> 00:34:32,783 and books about the artist. 662 00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:36,150 I thought, I think we can file a lawsuit 663 00:34:36,150 --> 00:34:37,140 here in Los Angeles. 664 00:34:37,140 --> 00:34:40,040 Maria Altmann's been a citizen here for 60 years, 665 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,630 she should have the right to have her courts 666 00:34:41,630 --> 00:34:46,020 decide this legal issue between her and Austria. 667 00:34:46,020 --> 00:34:49,650 So I filed the complaint in August of 2000 668 00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:52,300 and it didn't cost $2 million to file a complaint, 669 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:53,890 it cost a few hundred. 670 00:34:53,890 --> 00:34:58,220 I think people thought it was sort of a quixotic effort 671 00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:59,810 that I was tilting at windmills 672 00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:02,660 to take on the Austrian government 673 00:35:02,660 --> 00:35:03,850 and sue in the United States 674 00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:06,830 to try to get back paintings that were in Vienna 675 00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:08,930 seemed a little bit nuts, I must say. 676 00:35:08,930 --> 00:35:11,350 And I think most people who were looking at it 677 00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:12,620 thought I was a little bit crazy. 678 00:35:12,620 --> 00:35:15,070 But when I won the district court, 679 00:35:15,070 --> 00:35:17,260 people started taking a little more notice, 680 00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:19,620 but you know crazy things happen in the district court, 681 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:21,980 it'll get corrected on appeal. 682 00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:23,390 But when I won in the court of appeal, 683 00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:27,659 then people started to really pay attention to the case. 684 00:35:27,659 --> 00:35:30,409 (dramatic music) 685 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:36,970 Six years after taking on the case 686 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:38,680 Randy's determination took him 687 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,043 before the judges of the Supreme Court. 688 00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:47,990 The Austrian government had the resources to fight the case 689 00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:50,373 all the way to the highest court in America. 690 00:35:51,610 --> 00:35:53,710 Very few cases go to the Supreme Court, 691 00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:56,840 just about 80 cases per year, and so very rare 692 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,348 that you'd get a private litigation like this 693 00:36:00,348 --> 00:36:02,730 going to the Supreme Court. 694 00:36:02,730 --> 00:36:06,140 You can count on on a few hands the number of people 695 00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:09,800 in Los Angeles who get to do that type of thing. 696 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,633 But as the date 697 00:36:10,633 --> 00:36:13,130 for the Supreme Court hearing grew nearer, 698 00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:17,090 Randy found he wouldn't just be fighting the Austrians. 699 00:36:17,090 --> 00:36:18,500 A number of other countries 700 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:21,310 including the Bush administration wrote legal briefs 701 00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:26,110 basically supporting Austria's contention that the case 702 00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:28,740 shouldn't go forward in U.S. courts, 703 00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:31,970 that the U.S. was not the proper jurisdiction. 704 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:33,680 Many countries don't want to see themselves 705 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,140 in the same position where they're being sued 706 00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:39,200 in a foreign court over an historic grievance 707 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,020 that's 50 years old. 708 00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:44,170 I think probably many U.S. judges don't want 709 00:36:44,170 --> 00:36:48,963 to see those kinds of cases regularly in U.S. courts. 710 00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:54,717 So basically when he went to go argue against Austria 711 00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:58,630 in the U.S. Supreme Court, the Bush administration 712 00:36:58,630 --> 00:37:02,973 had already cast a vote that was supportive of Austria. 713 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,123 On February 25, 2004, 714 00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:12,020 Randy finally had the chance to take on both the Austrian 715 00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:15,653 and his own government before the Supreme Court. 716 00:37:19,450 --> 00:37:24,340 He's not a big guy, you know, and there's this huge room, 717 00:37:28,210 --> 00:37:32,530 the court room, you know, and they had on this podium 718 00:37:34,071 --> 00:37:39,071 sat the judges and then little Randy walked up there. 719 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:42,470 But Randy was desperate not to be 720 00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:43,793 over-awed by the occasion. 721 00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:47,090 I went up last after the U.S. government 722 00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:49,420 and the Austrian government argued. 723 00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:51,310 And so I got up and you don't prepare a speech 724 00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:53,460 in the Supreme Court because they always interrupt you. 725 00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:55,130 So I just had a general outline 726 00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:56,010 of what I wanted to say. 727 00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:57,760 And I said there are four grounds 728 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,050 for affirming the Ninth Circuit. 729 00:37:59,050 --> 00:38:01,040 Ground one is, and then boom 730 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,270 I got interrupted by Justice Souter, 731 00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:07,460 and he asked me this long, long question, 732 00:38:07,460 --> 00:38:10,330 convoluted, twisting, and turning question. 733 00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:13,180 Da da da da da da da, like that. 734 00:38:13,180 --> 00:38:15,870 And all of a sudden the question was over. 735 00:38:15,870 --> 00:38:19,050 And he's looking at me and I had not the slightest idea 736 00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:21,590 what he had just asked me, not a clue. 737 00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:24,797 All I could think of saying was I'm sorry, your honor, 738 00:38:24,797 --> 00:38:27,720 I don't think I understood the question, 739 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,270 could you please rephrase it? 740 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:31,633 And there were these gasps in the audience. 741 00:38:33,087 --> 00:38:34,480 But the other Justices were so nice. 742 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,340 They all smiled as if to say oh, don't worry, 743 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:38,080 he does that all the time or, you know, 744 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,010 thank goodness you asked 745 00:38:39,010 --> 00:38:41,130 because we didn't understand it either. 746 00:38:41,130 --> 00:38:42,960 It was a turning point. 747 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,990 Far from being a blunder, Randy had succeeded 748 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,903 in endearing himself to the court. 749 00:38:48,886 --> 00:38:51,780 That opened everything for him 750 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:55,320 because all the other judges smiled. 751 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,930 From that moment, he had the judges on his side. 752 00:38:59,930 --> 00:39:02,640 It must have had a good impact and it just seemed really 753 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,380 at the end of it, it seemed like we had a chance of winning, 754 00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:07,400 which was a big surprise. 755 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,910 And so I just floated out of the room, and I was so happy. 756 00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:11,600 And everybody congratulated me, 757 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,390 The room was filled with men, all lawyers. 758 00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:18,150 They came running up to me, 759 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:21,510 and they said Maria, it looks fabulous. 760 00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:24,750 And I said, how can you tell? 761 00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:27,090 Nobody said anything. 762 00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:29,670 (upbeat music) 763 00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:31,620 Randy flew back to Los Angeles 764 00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:34,320 uncertain whether he had won or lost. 765 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,723 No sooner had he arrived, then he got some bad news. 766 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,530 I got home and I opened up the legal newspaper 767 00:39:42,530 --> 00:39:44,710 here in Los Angeles and the headline was 768 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:47,803 court likely to reverse Altmann case, 769 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,770 that we were gonna lose. 770 00:39:50,770 --> 00:39:55,260 And so I called up the reporter and I said, 771 00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:56,160 how could you say this? 772 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,520 Everybody thought it went so well. 773 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,460 And he said trust me, I've been reporting 774 00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:02,460 on the Supreme Court for 35 years, 775 00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:05,260 you don't stand a chance, it's all over. 776 00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:06,680 I said well you know, some of the Justices 777 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,660 didn't even open their mouths. 778 00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:11,210 He says, I can tell by the body language, you lost. 779 00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:12,610 It was the spring when the case 780 00:40:12,610 --> 00:40:17,080 was heard in Washington but it was the fall in Los Angeles 781 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,750 when Randy finally learned the result. 782 00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:22,560 Three months later, I'm making breakfast for the kids, 783 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,130 and I get this call from the reporter. 784 00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:26,306 He says, hello, this is Dave Pike. 785 00:40:26,306 --> 00:40:28,910 And I said okay, well give me the bad news. 786 00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:30,993 He said no, not bad news, you won! 787 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,030 I said you're kidding, he said no six-three decision 788 00:40:34,030 --> 00:40:34,910 by Justice Stevens. 789 00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:37,500 I literally couldn't believe it. 790 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:38,940 But it was coming from him, I had to believe it, 791 00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:40,490 and so you know I tried to call Maria 792 00:40:40,490 --> 00:40:41,420 and her phone was busy. 793 00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:42,720 And then we finally got together 794 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,200 and just, I mean the celebration was enormous. 795 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,610 But very quickly we realized wait a second, 796 00:40:49,610 --> 00:40:51,320 what did we just win? 797 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,190 Nothing, right? 798 00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:56,780 All we won was the right to start the case in Los Angeles, 799 00:40:56,780 --> 00:41:00,170 the paintings are still in Vienna, we hadn't won anything. 800 00:41:00,170 --> 00:41:01,943 We just won the right to start. 801 00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:05,890 It may have been just the beginning for Randy, 802 00:41:05,890 --> 00:41:07,960 but the judgment put the Austrian government 803 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,790 in a difficult position. 804 00:41:09,790 --> 00:41:12,980 They may have been anxious to throw off their Nazi past, 805 00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:15,770 but now the case had attracted media interest 806 00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:17,163 from around the world. 807 00:41:18,070 --> 00:41:20,510 Now the U.S. Supreme Court had basically weighed in 808 00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:23,050 and said okay well, you can hear it in U.S. Court. 809 00:41:23,050 --> 00:41:25,993 U.S. courts tend to be more favorable in these cases. 810 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:29,810 However, the Austrians could have appealed, 811 00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:31,720 as they had appealed some of the other decisions 812 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:33,210 in the past. 813 00:41:33,210 --> 00:41:36,570 But to have this dragging on in the public view 814 00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:42,450 during these appeals as an issue that really at this point 815 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:44,630 was not gonna go away 816 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:48,220 I think was a very difficult quandary for the Austrians. 817 00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:49,780 But it wasn't just the Austrian government 818 00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:51,853 that was in a precarious position, 819 00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:55,700 Randy's client was now 89. 820 00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:58,060 Could he risk a lengthy court case? 821 00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:00,620 If she died his case was over; 822 00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:03,750 she had no other relatives living in the United States 823 00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:05,683 who could continue the case. 824 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,960 It took a year of negotiations but eventually both sides 825 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,940 agreed to a do-or-die arbitration. 826 00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:18,710 I went behind closed doors with Maria and I said Maria, 827 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:21,210 this is the greatest thing, we can have this arbitration, 828 00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:24,420 we can get it finally finished and by your 90th birthday, 829 00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:26,420 next February, it'll all be over with, 830 00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:27,400 and isn't that great? 831 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,910 And she said, are you crazy, why on earth 832 00:42:30,910 --> 00:42:33,260 would we go back to Austria when we just been 833 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:35,630 fighting for five years all the way to the Supreme Court 834 00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:39,360 and back to have the right to try the case 835 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,993 in front of this wonderful judge here in Los Angeles? 836 00:42:41,993 --> 00:42:46,993 I said you're crazy, why would three Austrian arbitrators 837 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,200 go against their government and give us the paintings 838 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,410 when for eight years they kept saying? 839 00:42:57,410 --> 00:43:00,073 And he said we have to take the chance. 840 00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:05,070 Having convinced Maria, Randy flew to Vienna. 841 00:43:05,070 --> 00:43:06,750 The game was on. 842 00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:08,683 He was going to gamble everything. 843 00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:13,133 The Klimts were probably worth over $100 million. 844 00:43:16,364 --> 00:43:17,883 Who had the strongest hand? 845 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,630 Randall was very skillful 846 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:25,480 at getting his side of the story out. 847 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,760 I think he was more skillful than the Austrians 848 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,040 in articulating his position in the media. 849 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,610 So when the panel was deciding this case, 850 00:43:36,610 --> 00:43:41,210 it was another period of months and months that went by 851 00:43:41,210 --> 00:43:42,880 where they were still in this limbo. 852 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,963 And you kind of thought anything could happen. 853 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:49,200 Once again Randy had no idea 854 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,470 whether he had won or lost. 855 00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:53,310 He returned to Los Angeles. 856 00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:56,240 Then four months later he got an email message. 857 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,220 I came home late one night from my neighborhood poker game 858 00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:04,220 where I had lost my shirt, and checked my email. 859 00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:07,410 And sure enough there's an email from the main arbitrator 860 00:44:07,410 --> 00:44:12,010 with the decision, and so I opened up the decision. 861 00:44:12,010 --> 00:44:13,760 And it's all in German, you know? 862 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,800 And my German's pretty good, but it took me a while 863 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,530 until I got to the part where they said we won, 864 00:44:19,530 --> 00:44:23,388 and I was obviously overjoyed. 865 00:44:23,388 --> 00:44:26,980 It was after midnight on a Sunday night, Monday morning, 866 00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:28,550 so I didn't call Maria right away. 867 00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:31,380 I let her sleep and then in the morning 868 00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:34,030 we really celebrated, this time we really celebrated. 869 00:44:35,970 --> 00:44:38,563 It was very, very exciting. 870 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,710 I did not expect it, I was hoping. 871 00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:50,710 But because I couldn't imagine and I still think 872 00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:56,050 it is incredibly just, that these three Austrian judges 873 00:44:58,980 --> 00:45:03,980 unanimously vote for something 874 00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:09,190 which their government was so totally against. 875 00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:12,980 Nobody in Austria thought this could happen. 876 00:45:12,980 --> 00:45:14,690 They were shell-shocked. 877 00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:16,973 These paintings were national icons. 878 00:45:17,980 --> 00:45:20,870 I think it was a wise decision, but it came too late. 879 00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:22,930 Of course Klimt is the national culture 880 00:45:22,930 --> 00:45:24,310 and heritage of Austria, 881 00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:26,710 and his paintings are famous and we're proud of them. 882 00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:30,090 And he is Austrian and he wanted them to stay in Austria. 883 00:45:30,090 --> 00:45:33,560 So Austria needed to find a solution, 884 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,410 a diplomatic solution, and that they knew 885 00:45:36,410 --> 00:45:38,130 they're gonna be watched internationally 886 00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:40,430 on how they will handle this case. 887 00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:42,610 It could have been done smarter, it's done now, 888 00:45:42,610 --> 00:45:44,330 but it could have been done smarter, 889 00:45:44,330 --> 00:45:47,090 and the damage could have been less. 890 00:45:47,090 --> 00:45:50,220 I think you cannot take a better example 891 00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:53,420 for the style of Klimt than to compare 892 00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:56,710 the Adele Bloch-Bauer One, with Adele Bloch-Bauer Two. 893 00:45:56,710 --> 00:46:00,710 I mean we are very sad that from now on 894 00:46:00,710 --> 00:46:04,090 we do not have this possibility anymore in our museum. 895 00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:06,500 And this is very sad because this was such 896 00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:09,700 a fascinating comparison which is so unique, 897 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,980 because you see not only the same person 898 00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:16,850 only five years are in between these two portraits, 899 00:46:16,850 --> 00:46:19,800 but you see also the change of style 900 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,470 which is in this short period. 901 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:24,440 When finally a decision was made 902 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,280 that the pictures will leave Austria 903 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,180 there was a national outcry. 904 00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:29,620 There was lots of criticism, 905 00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:32,350 and I was like why do we have to give the pictures away? 906 00:46:32,350 --> 00:46:36,710 Why couldn't you find another way of handling this matter? 907 00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:38,550 Of buying the pictures? 908 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:43,370 Because everybody thought we would have enough money to get 909 00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:46,228 at least one of the pictures back or two, 910 00:46:46,228 --> 00:46:47,890 but that wasn't the case. 911 00:46:47,890 --> 00:46:51,210 So a lot of people felt sad and felt about a missed chance. 912 00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:54,530 And so many people stormed, not stormed but so many people 913 00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:57,192 went to the gallery to have a last look 914 00:46:57,192 --> 00:46:59,510 at the Klimt pictures. 915 00:46:59,510 --> 00:47:04,510 One aspect on the Austrian side is a certain lack 916 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,113 of coordination in this case, or maybe a lack of leadership. 917 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,950 So I don't think they had a plan A. 918 00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:18,063 So they did not need a plan B. 919 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,770 This story began in 1938 with the Nazis 920 00:47:23,770 --> 00:47:26,163 looting the Bloch-Bauer Klimts in Vienna. 921 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,440 The paintings were locked in Austria for 68 years. 922 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,060 For the first time since they were looted 923 00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:36,532 they were leaving Vienna. 924 00:47:36,532 --> 00:47:39,115 (upbeat music) 925 00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:42,920 On the 24th of April 2006, 926 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,300 the paintings arrived in the city where Maria lives. 927 00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:47,680 They went on display 928 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,980 at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art 929 00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:53,310 for one of the most popular exhibitions ever held there. 930 00:47:53,310 --> 00:47:55,630 When Maria first walked in and saw the paintings here 931 00:47:55,630 --> 00:47:57,970 first of all she said, they look so much bigger here. 932 00:47:57,970 --> 00:48:01,290 And I think it was wonderful for her 933 00:48:01,290 --> 00:48:03,280 to be able to have them here in Los Angeles, 934 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,190 where she settled, where she raised her family, 935 00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:09,220 to be able to share them with her family. 936 00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:11,510 And we also have a great collection in the city 937 00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:14,870 of German and Austrian art of this period. 938 00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:17,693 So it would have had a marvelous context as well. 939 00:48:19,310 --> 00:48:22,530 This was the final victory for Maria, 940 00:48:22,530 --> 00:48:25,500 but far from keeping them as a family heirloom, 941 00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:26,993 she decided to sell them. 942 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:32,090 They weren't destined to stay in the Los Angeles gallery. 943 00:48:32,090 --> 00:48:35,573 They were on the move again, this time to New York. 944 00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:39,690 Wealthy collectors from all over the world 945 00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:41,950 were heading to Rockefeller Center. 946 00:48:41,950 --> 00:48:44,573 The Klimts were going up for auction. 947 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,540 There's been a lot of interest. 948 00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:48,460 They've been on view for the past four days, 949 00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:50,660 and we've had record figures through. 950 00:48:50,660 --> 00:48:52,340 Three four times the number of people 951 00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:53,960 who normally come through our exhibition rooms 952 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,360 have been arriving and so I think from that 953 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,513 we can gauge that there's strong interest. 954 00:48:59,350 --> 00:49:01,420 But after the long legal battles 955 00:49:01,420 --> 00:49:03,570 why had Maria decided to sell? 956 00:49:03,570 --> 00:49:06,450 It seems the main consideration was security, 957 00:49:06,450 --> 00:49:08,123 how could Maria protect them? 958 00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:11,660 These paintings now become so valuable 959 00:49:11,660 --> 00:49:15,340 that the heirs didn't have the ability 960 00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:16,760 to keep them themselves. 961 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,760 And this is really a way for Ferdinand and Adele's heirs 962 00:49:22,014 --> 00:49:27,014 to transform this inheritance into something 963 00:49:28,070 --> 00:49:30,310 that they can actually use for other good purposes. 964 00:49:30,310 --> 00:49:33,630 And I know that they all have really terrific things 965 00:49:33,630 --> 00:49:35,500 that they're going to be doing with the money for it. 966 00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:37,630 So I hope the sale goes well, 967 00:49:37,630 --> 00:49:39,770 and that they find good homes. 968 00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:41,320 It doesn't bother me necessarily 969 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,010 if they go into private collections. 970 00:49:43,010 --> 00:49:45,580 These were after all private property, 971 00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:48,750 and it's only because of the this history 972 00:49:48,750 --> 00:49:52,150 that they were in the Austrian Museum for so many decades. 973 00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:55,210 but they belonged to Ferdinand Bloch-Bauer 974 00:49:55,210 --> 00:49:57,440 and he willed them to his family. 975 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,640 And now just like any inheritance whether it be stock, 976 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,383 or cash, paintings, or whatever, 977 00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:07,020 they're entitled to do with it what they want. 978 00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:09,640 You so seldom see pictures of this quality 979 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,095 come to the market and to have four at one time 980 00:50:12,095 --> 00:50:14,500 is something very special indeed. 981 00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:17,910 I think each picture has its own particular facets 982 00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:20,333 that will attract different clients. 983 00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:24,040 And their general importance is something that has been 984 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,613 recognized by collectors far and wide. 985 00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:29,700 Maria had struggled for a lifetime 986 00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:31,350 to get the paintings back 987 00:50:31,350 --> 00:50:33,690 and only owned them for a few months. 988 00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:34,850 Did she have any regrets 989 00:50:34,850 --> 00:50:37,053 about not leaving them together in Vienna? 990 00:50:38,350 --> 00:50:41,943 Well I mean I wasn't willing to donate it 991 00:50:41,943 --> 00:50:46,943 because I think the Belvedere had the paintings for 68 years 992 00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:54,300 and there was no reason to make a donation after that. 993 00:50:54,450 --> 00:50:58,623 But he could negotiate just like everybody else will do. 994 00:50:59,540 --> 00:51:01,890 Maria Altmann didn't even want the pictures, 995 00:51:01,890 --> 00:51:03,300 she didn't want 'em for her living room. 996 00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:04,890 She wanted them actually to stay in Austria, 997 00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:06,933 but she couldn't find another way to do it. 998 00:51:06,933 --> 00:51:09,690 And she said look, if you wanna buy the pictures, 999 00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:12,270 fair enough, if you don't, we're gonna take 'em. 1000 00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:13,103 Not only was 1001 00:51:13,103 --> 00:51:14,870 the Christie's auction room packed, 1002 00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:17,720 but there were international bids coming in by telephone. 1003 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,680 The first painting up was Klimt's The Birch Forest. 1004 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,623 And still bidder 36 million, 1005 00:51:26,189 --> 00:51:28,450 at $36 million all done. 1006 00:51:28,450 --> 00:51:30,100 And selling right at $36 million, 1007 00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:32,943 mark your bidder at 36 million. 1008 00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:37,560 Second Klimt the Austrian Landscape there, lot 52, 1009 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,697 is illustrated in your catalogs. 1010 00:51:39,697 --> 00:51:42,910 $28 million, it's still up front against you here 1011 00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:47,480 and selling this time all done at $28 million 1012 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,230 for you madam, $28 million dollars. 1013 00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:54,730 Lot 53 is the third Klimt Apple Tree. 1014 00:51:54,730 --> 00:51:59,090 Number one, at 29 million 500,000. 1015 00:51:59,090 --> 00:52:03,197 29 million five selling this side for 29 million 500,000. 1016 00:52:04,868 --> 00:52:07,740 Lot 54, fourth Klimt there, 1017 00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:09,860 portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer Two. 1018 00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:13,947 It's the 1912 portrait, 65 million. 1019 00:52:13,947 --> 00:52:15,243 $67 million, 1020 00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,620 67 million 500,000. 1021 00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:21,553 68 million. 1022 00:52:22,582 --> 00:52:26,120 At $68 million, it was down to two bidders. 1023 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,060 How far would they go? 1024 00:52:28,060 --> 00:52:32,300 70 million 500,00, 71 million, 1025 00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:35,083 72 million, 73 million. 1026 00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:39,180 But just when the hammer was about to fall. 1027 00:52:39,180 --> 00:52:41,041 74 million, new bidder. 1028 00:52:41,041 --> 00:52:43,291 (laughing) 1029 00:52:49,621 --> 00:52:54,470 It's 74 million dollars, new bidder at 74 million. 1030 00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:57,720 75 million, 76 million, 1031 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:02,380 77 million, 77 million 500,000, 1032 00:53:02,380 --> 00:53:07,343 78 million, 78 million 500,000. 1033 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,395 At 78 million $500,000 on this telephone, 1034 00:53:12,395 --> 00:53:17,395 fair warning, and selling all done at 78 million 500,000. 1035 00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:20,101 Guy your bidder at $78 million 500,000. 1036 00:53:20,101 --> 00:53:22,518 (applauding) 1037 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,000 It felt tremendous. 1038 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,000 There was sort of an energy in the room 1039 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,023 when the paintings came up 1040 00:53:29,023 --> 00:53:32,103 that I think was a response to the story itself. 1041 00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:36,600 The background of the pictures not just the pictures as art. 1042 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,620 And I felt that electricity in the air. 1043 00:53:38,620 --> 00:53:42,660 I was sitting there and, at least that's how it felt to me. 1044 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:44,120 The three Klimts had raised 1045 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,673 a staggering $172 million. 1046 00:53:47,825 --> 00:53:49,750 Where they are now is a mystery. 1047 00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:52,393 Christie's is not saying who the buyers are. 1048 00:53:53,850 --> 00:53:56,570 But where was the most famous painting of all, 1049 00:53:56,570 --> 00:53:59,270 the Gold Portrait of Adele? 1050 00:53:59,270 --> 00:54:02,230 This painting was meant to be auctioned with the others, 1051 00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:04,590 but it never came up for sale. 1052 00:54:04,590 --> 00:54:06,630 It had been sold three months earlier 1053 00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:11,543 for a record-breaking $135 million to Ronald Lauder, 1054 00:54:12,430 --> 00:54:14,543 the head of the perfume Empire. 1055 00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:17,880 When Ronald Lauder was in Vienna 1056 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,290 and he saw that painting he said he never forgot it. 1057 00:54:21,290 --> 00:54:23,635 Of course he'd already seen reproductions of it before, 1058 00:54:23,635 --> 00:54:26,510 and I think that Lauder's reaction was similar 1059 00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:29,080 to everyone's reaction, including my own. 1060 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,281 Which was when I saw a picture of the painting 1061 00:54:33,281 --> 00:54:35,300 that was under discussion 1062 00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:38,190 my first reaction was oh, that painting. 1063 00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:41,530 And I think everyone has pretty much the same reaction. 1064 00:54:41,530 --> 00:54:43,830 Lauder himself put it this way, 1065 00:54:43,830 --> 00:54:46,610 as a 14 year old boy he had walked across 1066 00:54:46,610 --> 00:54:48,193 to the Belvedere one morning. 1067 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,700 Nothing prepared me for how it looked. 1068 00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,970 It was something that symbolizes so many things to me. 1069 00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:58,963 It was just me traveling without my parents, 1070 00:54:59,944 --> 00:55:03,353 it symbolizes that moment of my growing up. 1071 00:55:05,090 --> 00:55:08,630 Perhaps the greatest irony of this art heist is this. 1072 00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:10,680 The paintings Hitler and Goering took 1073 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,400 from the Bloch-Bauer's collection 1074 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,660 and considered so valuable, faded into obscurity. 1075 00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:19,230 The ones the Nazis viewed as insignificant 1076 00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:21,130 and simply sold off 1077 00:55:21,130 --> 00:55:24,600 became the major treasures of the 20th century. 1078 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,890 And Adele Bloch-Bauer's image came to be known 1079 00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:30,235 all over the world. 1080 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