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It's the most important question
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in the world wide art market.
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Is it genuine, or is it fake?
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When a forgery is passed off as the real thing,
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there are fortunes to be made and lost.
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For nearly a decade two Englishmen did just that.
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Between them they produced hundreds of modern masterpieces,
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and plundered major art archives to fake their prominence.
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Their activities literally changed art history.
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It was one of the greatest frauds
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the art world has ever seen.
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How on Earth did they get away with it for so long?
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Fall of 1995, out of the blue,
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a woman telephones Scotland Yard
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with damning information about her former partner.
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It wasn't the first time in my career
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that one received such a call from the woman scorned.
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Here was somebody who was clearly very upset
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at the breakup of her relationship,
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who had, in her words, a considerable amount of evidence
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to show that her husband, as she referred to him,
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had been involved in considerable
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criminal activity in the art market,
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and had been orchestrating a major fraud.
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Dick Ellis and another detective
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in the Yard and Antique Squad, met the woman
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at her local police station on October 5, 1995.
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Her name was Bat-Sheva Goudsmid.
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The two of us went and interviewed her,
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first of all, upstairs in the police station.
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The bizarre story she told police
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uncovered a fraud that had been going on for eight years.
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But Goudsmid had more damning evidence
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than the two detectives could've dreamt of.
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And then she said,
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"I've got quite a lot of exhibits for you."
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She invited Jonathan and I to go around
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to a street in Hampstead where, in fact, a car was parked.
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And out of the boot of that car,
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she then produced several bin liner full of papers.
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It was like in Aladdin's cave.
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Without those bin liners,
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we would've had very little evidence to go on.
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The trash bags contained
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photographs, catalogs, and bills of sale.
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It wasn't certain what it all meant,
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but as Scotland Yard detectives
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began sifting through the material, one thing became clear.
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Somewhere in these trash bags was the key
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to one of the most extraordinary
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and audacious scams the art world had ever seen.
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And this was the man behind it,
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an Englishman called John Drewe.
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We very quickly formed an idea of John Drewe,
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that he was an extremely intelligent
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and deep thinking fraudsman.
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This story goes back to the late 1970s,
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when London was the center of a thriving music industry.
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Soho was a magnet to anyone
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who thought they had the talent for writing a hit song.
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One of them was a former art student
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and budding composer called John Myatt.
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(upbeat piano music)
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Myatt was taken on by a record company
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and was quite successful.
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He had a hit single called, "Silly Games".
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Everything seemed to be going well.
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Then one day, the man who ran the business
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arrived at work with a problem.
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My boss at Studio Records
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had been out to dinner with Marcus Sieff.
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This Marcus Sieff actually owned
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the whole of Marks & Spencer's.
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He came back the next time time he said, "Oh, god."
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"I've seen these fantastic paintings
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"by this artist called Raoul Dufy."
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This Marcus Sieff he's paid $90,000 for this one,
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and $60,000 for the other, brilliant!"
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"I wish I'd got something like that."
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I just happened to hear it.
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I said, "Well, I could do that, Dick.
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"Why don't you just let me do them, a couple of Dufys?"
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So we went out, in the art shops,
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got anything with Dufy on it.
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"Well, that's nice, and that's nice.
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"Oh, quite like that."
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He said, "Well, they've gotta be bigger
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"than Marcus Sieff's."
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So I said, "Well, 250 each then."
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Looking back on them, I mean, they were not very good,
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but they were good enough.
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He paid me 500 pounds for the paintings,
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and then he went out and spent 600 pounds
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each on the frames, and they hung them up.
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As you went in, you saw these
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gigantic Dufys over the fireplace,
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and, of course, when Marcus and Lady Sieff come back,
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they walk in through the door.
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It's like my Dufys are bigger than your Dufys,
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and no one had said anything about it.
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Dick was sort of excited because really, I mean,
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he could've easily spent 200,000 pounds on these paintings
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when in fact he got them for 500 quid, plus the frame.
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John Myatt had been to art school,
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but this was the start of a new career.
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He set himself up in business
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as a legitimate forger of the modern masters.
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I just thought, "I can do this.
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"It's genuine fakes, it's a good idea.
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"Where can I put the advert on?
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"What kind of people are gonna be interested
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"in this kind of thing?
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I'd always vaguely sort of read "Private Eye",
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and I thought, "Well, 'Private Eye's' the place."
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"Private Eye" is a small circulation
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satirical magazine, with a caustic sense of humor.
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Myatt thought its readers might be the perfect clients.
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I think all together I put out three adverts,
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maybe four in, and it got a good response.
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It was not long before he received
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a telephone call from a man who would change his life.
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The first phone call John Drewe ever made to me
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was exactly the same as the first phone call
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that anybody else would.
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"Hello, I've seen your advert in "Private Eye",
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"are you interested in a familiar
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"with an artist called Matisse?"
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Well, of course I was, "Yes."
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"I'd be interested in a painting by Matisse."
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"Who are you?"
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He said, "Oh, my name is Professor Drewe."
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I said, "There was a painting by Matisse in my book,
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"I think it was called "The Pink Room" or something,
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"does that sound alright to you?
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"Yes," he said, "that's good.
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"It's a present for my wife."
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(birds chirping)
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John Myatt lives in The Midlands of England.
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It didn't take him long to complete his first commission
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for the mysterious Professor Drewe.
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A few days later, he drove to his local railway station,
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and caught a train to London,
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to deliver his fake Matisse to his new client.
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He said, "I'll be standing at the top of the platform,"
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whatever it would be, at Euston Station,
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and I said, "Well, you'll recognize me
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"because I'll be the man carrying a painting."
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The very first time we met,
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we went to a little coffee shop in Euston,
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and he gave me a check, and I went home.
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(birds chirping)
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At the time, Myatt was making a living
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as a part-time art teacher.
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His marriage had broken up,
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and he was taking care of two small children.
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You know, when a thing like that's happened,
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the mom has just walked off,
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you really do close up into a very tight unit.
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It's just the three of you,
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and bedtime stories, romping around,
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pillow fights and all that, it was great!
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I mean, looking back on it, I loved it.
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(gentle music)
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Working at home, painting his genuine fakes
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suited the single father.
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Drewe became a lucrative client,
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and Myatt grew to like him.
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I thought he was very different
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from anybody else I'd met before.
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He was something else altogether.
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He was kind of mysterious,
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and intriguing, and exciting.
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Every few weeks,
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Myatt would take the train to London
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to deliver another of his genuine fakes
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to his seemingly wealthy and influential buyer.
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John Myatt was soon taking the subway out to the affluent
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London suburb where Professor Drewe lived.
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By say, the fifth time I'd met him,
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we were driving off to his house,
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and there I'd meet his wife.
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Then, occasionally, we'd drop off somewhere in Hampstead
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and pick up the two children from school,
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so by the sixth time I was seeing John,
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I was actually meeting his family as well.
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It just kind of grew slowly,
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so that everybody got to know everybody else.
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Two years passed,
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during which Drewe bought a dozen paintings from Myatt.
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Then, just when Myatt thought the relationship
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with his patron was finally over,
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Drewe had a surprising request.
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At the end of the painting number 12 or number 13,
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he said to me, "Well, what would you like to do?"
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(chuckles) It was unheard of for a customer do that.
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So I said, "Well, I've always like Cubist paintings,
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"I love Cubism.
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"Maybe I'll just do something like that.
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He said, "Okay, in your own time, very nice.
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"Off you go, same money."
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So I flipped through an art book,
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and I found a drawing, a Cubist drawing.
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I thought, "Well, I'll turn this into a painting,
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"I know how to do this."
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On the dining room table that night,
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I, as they say, knocked up
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a small Cubist's work by Albert Gleizes.
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(ominous music)
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That time I left there wasn't another commission,
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and I got back on the train and I thought, "Well that's it.
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"That's goodbye, Professor Drewe."
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I won't be hearing from him again.
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A couple of weeks later, maybe sooner the phone rang,
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and he said, "John, you know that painting
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"by Albert Gleizes that you did for me?"
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I said, "Yes, John."
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He said, "Well, I've just taken that into
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"Christie's and Sotheby's
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"and they think it's worth 25,000 pounds.
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"Are you interested in going halves with me
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"and having 12,000 pounds cash?"
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That's when I made my big mistake really.
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Because, I mean, I didn't even stop and think about it.
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I just thought 12,000 pounds as far as I was concerned
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was just the answer to so many problems.
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The three of us could really do with that,
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so I said, "Yeah, I'll do it, yes."
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(ominous music)
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I think, if we'd of stopped at that,
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that would just had been an episode in my life
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that I probably would just have buried and forgotten about.
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But for some reason or other,
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I was sort of dissatisfied with the way my life was.
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You get to that stage when you're old,
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I'd be about 40 then, you sort of think,
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"Well is this all there is?
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"Is this it?"
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But in terms of what I was making with my life,
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I just felt as though the whole thing had fallen flat
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and was going nowhere.
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(gentle dramatic music)
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Like it or not, John Myatt
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had allowed himself to be trapped by John Drewe.
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John Myatt came over as a very likable man,
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who seemed to have been suckered into this
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by John Drewe at a vulnerable time in his life.
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Myatt's just a mark.
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Myatt was the tool.
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Myatt was nothing more than a hammer.
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You know, to pound the nail.
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I think John Myatt was probably being groomed
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from the first order that John Drewe made of him.
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From his country retreat,
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John Myatt had now embarked on a life of crime.
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Giacometti was next.
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It was an obvious choice.
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Giacometti had been one of John Myatt's
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favorite painters since art school.
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He used rapid movements of the pencil,
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almost like a skeleton.
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He wrote in his book that as he worked,
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the figure would sort of elongate
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and get bigger, and get taller, and taller,
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sort of that it would stretch out a bit more.
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People became like stick insects, really.
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Very thin.
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They'd usually have some kind of sense of a figure
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actually standing in sort of space.
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And that's largely how he drew.
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And when you've got that far into it,
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you're then ready to start a painting.
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I was so insulated from the fact
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that it was a crime going on here,
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that I was kind of experimenting
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with my Giacometti technique at the expense of being caught.
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That was very peculiar.
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The Giacomettis were, I would say, second rate,
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maybe even third-rate fakes, yet, they got out there.
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But the success of the scam
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depending only in part on the quality
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of John Myatt's paintings.
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John Drewe had mastered a different kind of fake,
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and one which a gullible art market
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found much more impressive.
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He began changing the archives in some
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of London's biggest galleries and museums.
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How he did this was brilliant in its simplicity.
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In the museum archives, he would find a catalog
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belonging to a gallery that had gone out of business.
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This was the starting point for his cunning fraud.
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Well, we found out that his research
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must've consisted on taking out catalogs from the archives,
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then cutting and pasting, and creating a collage catalog,
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and putting that back into what was now a corrupted archive.
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These doctored catalogs consisted
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of photographs of genuine paintings,
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and also photographs of fake paintings.
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He had juggled them, put them back in together.
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So, you would have a catalog
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which was just slightly changed,
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and you would then have the same references,
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but different pictures.
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So, when any would-be art historian
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went to those archives to check out
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a Myatt painting new on the market,
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low and behold there was everything there to suggest
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that this was something which had been around
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as they were being told in the provenance.
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The painting's history, or provenance,
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as it is called, was now impeccable.
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It appeared to all the world that the fake painting by Myatt
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had been part of an earlier exhibition or sale,
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and, therefore, indisputably genuine.
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Drewe targeted some of London's
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most prestigious museums and galleries.
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The Institute of Contemporary Art,
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the Victoria and Albert Museum,
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and above all, Britain's foremost gallery
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of 20th century art, the Tate.
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At the Tate, he must've been
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left alone in the archive room,
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which is a small room, on the occasional basis,
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and he must've been able to razor out from the catalog,
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a number of exhibition leaves or full exhibition catalogs.
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He then would, say, go to the lavatory,
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or if there was nobody in the room at the time,
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just pocket it.
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And then come back at a later date,
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and reinsert and glue in the new doctored catalog.
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But at the same time
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as vandalizing the Tate's archive,
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Drewe was presenting himself as a patron of the arts.
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He managed to persuade the most eminent people
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working at the Tate that he was a serious art connoisseur
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He was so in love with this idea of meeting
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all these posh and wealthy and establishment people,
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and having one over on them.
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That in a way,
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the money was the second most important thing.
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It was the doing of it,
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that I learned from working with John,
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the being the professor,
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the mixing with all these people,
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and knowing that you knew something that they didn't.
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I think you could say a typical conman's relationship
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to the Tate Gallery to get to where he wanted to be,
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he needed to, if you like, have
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a certain amount of influence with the Tate Gallery,
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and then to be able to bring that influence
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to bear in backing whatever he said about works of art,
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give him some credibility in the art market.
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But Drewe's attempts to ingratiate
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himself to the Tate horrified the forager John Myatt.
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I'd done some not very good paintings by minor
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French artists from the 1950s, 1960s, called Bissiere.
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John had taken it into his head to present them
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to the Tate Gallery. (laughs)
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So, he said, "Would you come down you'd love to see this?"
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He said, "Why don't you come down
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"as a consultant art historian,"
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and so I kind of put my suit and tie on,
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and went down and attended the meeting.
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They came up from wherever it was,
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and they had white gloves on.
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I mean, you really had to laugh.
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It was just so unreal.
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This one guy, I think he was the deputy head of it,
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he said, "Well come down with me,
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"Mr. Myatt, and I'll show you
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"where we're going to hang these."
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So we went from this lovely boardroom
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into the gallery itself.
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He said, "Now, we're gonna have one this side there,
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"and one on that side of the down there."
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What can you say?
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I said, "Very good, very good choice."
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The only time I really got furious with John Drewe.
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I really did, I just thought,
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"Do you want to get caught?
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"What are you doing?"
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The worrying thing from my point of view
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was that there was no oil paint on them.
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"It was all emulsion paint.
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"It was house paint."
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There I was sitting in the boardroom
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of the bloody Tate Gallery with two paintings,
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which had just been painted in emulsion paint.
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They were saying, "We're just going to take these down
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"to conservation to have a look,"
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and I thought, "Oh, Christ.
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"Why does he do this?"
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Drewe's tactics took great nerve,
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and there was method in his madness.
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You might consider this as an odd move to do
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on a fraudman's side, but it's not.
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It's actually quite a clever thing to do,
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because if he can get the Bissiere hung up in the Tate,
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it's literally 100% provenance
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that you've got a genuine Bissiere,
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and that's what he was trying to do.
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We walked along Millbank and found some pub.
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That's where I had a crack at him.
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It's the only time I really did have a go at him,
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because I just felt you're on a different planet here.
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This is just stupid.
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I think it made an impression on him.
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He said, "Well, what am I going to do then?"
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I said, "I don't know what you're gonna do,
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"but what you are gonna do is you're gonna
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"get those paintings out of there."
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John Drewe came up with
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an extraordinary way out of the predicament.
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He would retrieve the forged paintings
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by giving the Tate a huge donation.
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He came up with something.
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There was a problem with the paintings,
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so he gave them 25,000 pounds instead,
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and he got the paintings out.
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I got them back, and I burnt them.
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I was so relieved to have got them back.
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I put them in the bonfire and burnt the damn thing.
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I'd love to have them now, I must say.
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Those are the paintings that nearly made it into the Tate.
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(birds chirping)
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John Myatt and John Drewe
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continued conning the art world,
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selling forgery after forgery
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into a seemingly insatiable market.
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Myatt could hardly believe he was getting away with it.
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After all, Myatt was only using household water-based paint
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mixed with petroleum jelly.
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Meanwhile, John Drewe was cleverly doctoring Myatt's
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canvases to make them look older and more authentic.
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He would then change the stretchers at the back.
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That was the first thing he did usually,
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put old stretchers on.
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Then he would also use furniture tacks,
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which he would treat with salt,
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and so that would corrode them,
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so they looked nice and rusty around the edge.
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Perhaps a bag of dust out of the Hoover
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on the back of the thing.
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The Hoover would go off so there was dust in the crevices.
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Just a bit of coffee or tea on the front,
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just to take the edge off it.
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The technique seemed to be working,
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and Myatt's paintings were selling well.
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Little did they know, that someone was on to them.
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In 1991, a painting came up for sale at Sotheby's,
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the prestigious auction house in London.
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The picture of a standing figure
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was apparently by Alberto Giacometti,
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one of the most influential artists of the 20th century.
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Myatt had spent the previous four years
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trying to perfect his Giacometti forgeries.
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It might sell for $300,000.
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But across the English Channel, in Paris,
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there were doubts about the authenticity
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of Myatt's Giacometti.
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American Mary Lisa Palmer lives and works
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in the French capital.
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She is one of the world's leading authorities on Giacometti.
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In November 1991,
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she received a copy of an auction catalog,
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and her suspicions were immediately aroused.
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My first reaction looking at the reproduction,
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it was wrong, there was something wrong.
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(dramatic music)
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Let's say that in this painting
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there were several different elements
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that you can find in an authentic painting,
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but, like you had a certain kind of background,
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you had a little sort of a sketch of what would be
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a canvas put against the wall on the side of the figure.
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You have the body of a standing woman,
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but the head it looks like a head
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that Giacometti could have done,
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but it's a head of a man.
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So a head of a man on a female nude is sort of strange,
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and, of course, the signature was a bit thick,
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and a bit too well applied.
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Mary Lisa Palmer immediately flew to London.
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She examined the picture at Sotheby's,
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and told the experts there what she thought.
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Well, I told them that, unfortunately,
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that I thought that the painting was incorrect,
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and I asked them if they could give me an x-ray of the back,
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and they said that, "Miss Palmer, other people
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"who know the work of Giacometti think it's fine,
525
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"and on top of it, the provenance that is given
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in our auction catalog, you will find the proof
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"of the pudding in the Tate Archives."
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(dramatic music)
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Problem was, that according
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to the Sotheby's catalog,
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the authenticity of the Giacometti was impeccable.
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Its provenance was listed in detail.
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Undeterred, Mary Lisa Palmer
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went straight to the Tate Gallery.
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As Sotheby's promised,
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she found a photograph of the dubious Giacometti
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in the Tate Gallery archive,
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but she came to a different conclusion.
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If the painting was fake,
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so too was the provenance.
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What I discovered that day was that
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someone was tampering with the archives.
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This was extremely, extremely dangerous for the art world.
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(dramatic music)
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Mary Lisa Palmer's startling discovery
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raised more questions than it answered.
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How long had the scam been going on?
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How many other fakes were there?
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And by how many artists?
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And how was it that some of the best experts
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in the art world had been so totally duped?
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Among the many artists that Myatt was now forging,
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was Ben Nicholson, a British artist producing
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abstract paintings after the Second World War.
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I said to John Drewe,
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"Ben Nicholson would be a good choice.
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"Because, from his point of view,
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00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:22,073
"from the provenance point of view, he was English.
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"So you didn't have to worry about
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"provenancing the things abroad."
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Myatt set to work trying to master
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the seemingly simple process of producing a Ben Nicholson.
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I tend to sort of stick with him from about 1950 to 1960,
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and during that period, he was kind of playing with
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a limited number of shapes which were based on
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jugs, goblets, mugs and things.
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When I was passing these off as fakes,
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I wasn't doing them as well as I am today,
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in fact, the things I'm doing today
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of Ben Nicholson are much, much better.
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I struggled quite a lot in early days.
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It was really just a learning curve for me.
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(lighthearted music)
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Actually, this isn't quite nice.
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I'm fed up of doing those now.
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Look, this is Henry Matisse.
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(lighthearted music)
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(dramatic music)
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To convince the experts of the authenticity
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of John Myatt's Nicholson fakes,
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they needed to know more about the way the artist worked.
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I remember putting my best suit on
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and going to some Cork Street gallery,
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00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:31,855
or other which have got a Nicholson in the window,
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00:27:31,855 --> 00:27:34,630
and saying can we have a look at that,
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and a very nice, young lady came out
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and showed us the paintings, and we got a result.
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We knew what they looked like,
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where the gallery stickers were,
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where he'd sign them.
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On the stretcher, actually.
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On the top right inside of the stretcher,
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and that was a vital,
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00:27:54,660 --> 00:27:57,410
an integral part of doing what we were doing,
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was knowing how that worked.
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(gentle music)
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John Myatt began turning out Nicholsons,
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while John Drewe put the new information
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about the artist to good use.
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He was very good.
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I mean, he was quite a handy carpenter.
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00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:15,380
In that, he used to make the frames in the same way
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that Nicholson made his frames.
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He got me to actually do the Ben Nicholson signature
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on the wooden stretcher at the back of the canvas.
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It worked.
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Myatt's fakes passed the ultimate test.
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The chilling thing, I think,
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was that these paintings would be shown to,
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in Ben Nicholson's case,
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I mean Ben Nicholson's son-in-law,
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who had been a senior figure
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at a very important British gallery,
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was saying, yes, and authenticating these paintings.
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(gentle music)
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As John Myatt was churning out
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the fakes at home, unknown to him,
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John Drewe had made contact with the police.
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But about something quite different and much more sinister.
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We met at the Battersea Heliport,
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where this character came in the helicopter,
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00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:06,733
and it was John Drewe.
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He had his two children, and, of course,
624
00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:11,490
the pilot and co-pilot of this helicopter
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he'd hired for the day just to impress
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the detectives from Scotland Yard.
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He came through with this long story
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of how he was a professor, or this that and the other,
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and how he came across these mafioso
630
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trying to sell stolen paintings and so forth.
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From the start, Charlie Hill had his doubts
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about the man who was offering himself
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00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:33,220
as a police informant on the Italian mafia,
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00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:36,690
especially when Drewe invited him to a restaurant
635
00:29:36,690 --> 00:29:40,383
that Charlie Hill understood to be a hub of mafia activity.
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00:29:41,690 --> 00:29:44,500
In retrospect, what John Drewe was up to
637
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:47,713
became perfectly clear to the Scotland Yard detective.
638
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,770
He realized that he was about to be
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00:29:51,770 --> 00:29:55,470
revealed as a conman, and a fraudster,
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and he wanted to get himself a coup as a police informant,
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00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,340
so he could use that as a line of defense.
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There were plenty of other people
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who were taken in by John Drewe,
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00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:15,593
and art experts who fell for John Myatt's fakes.
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In 1994, a man called Clive Bellman walked into the gallery
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of a private art dealer, Peter Nahum.
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Nahum had spent years working for Sotheby's auction house.
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He now had a substantial reputation
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00:30:33,370 --> 00:30:35,590
as a dealer specializing in 19th
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and 20th century painting.
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00:30:37,530 --> 00:30:39,653
When Clive Bellman came to us,
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00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:43,220
we were in the middle of the deepest recessions
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in the art trade, and he explained a few things.
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We'd never met him before.
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He'd explained that the reason
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he was selling these pictures,
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00:30:51,030 --> 00:30:52,593
which belonged to his neighbor,
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00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:55,270
which was a private collection,
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00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:57,350
was that he had owned a couple of
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00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:59,910
jewelry shops, et cetera, and gone bust.
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00:30:59,910 --> 00:31:01,690
Now, we feel great sympathy for people
662
00:31:01,690 --> 00:31:03,240
who have lost their businesses.
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00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:05,350
To take him on face value,
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you'd of been perfectly happy with it.
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I'm very sensitive to shifty people,
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and Clive Bellman did not appear to be shifty to me.
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00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:16,670
The painting Bellman was trying to sell
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was by Graham Sutherland,
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the provenance from an Italian monastery.
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00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:22,920
I didn't like the painting at all,
671
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,260
I thought it was dreadful.
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But, Christie's had just sold a group of these paintings,
673
00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:34,520
with the same provenance, from the same monastery,
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for a great deal of money.
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00:31:35,998 --> 00:31:38,490
(dramatic music)
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Little did Peter Nahum know,
677
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:43,120
that the painting was a fake by John Myatt,
678
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,140
the provenances forged by John Drewe.
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00:31:46,140 --> 00:31:47,970
One of the Sutherland's that we got,
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a beautiful Graham Sutherland crucifixion,
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00:31:51,070 --> 00:31:55,930
and John Myatt just did the same crucifixion,
682
00:31:55,930 --> 00:31:57,750
but with a different color.
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Instead of having yellows, there was reds.
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00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:05,150
Both of them, Graham Sutherland colors,
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00:32:05,150 --> 00:32:08,210
the specific red that Sutherland used.
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00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:11,189
Beautiful little jewel of a painting.
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(dramatic music)
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What Drewe had done, he had gone to a monastic order,
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00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:21,920
and he had told them that he had got,
690
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,260
from one of the sales of their books,
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00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:29,023
a whole load of Graham Sutherland paintings.
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00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:35,380
He then got a stamp cut with Order of Servite Mary,
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00:32:35,380 --> 00:32:40,380
which approximated to the stamp that they actually did have,
694
00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:43,143
and he stamped the paintings.
695
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,410
Peter Nahum took the provenance
696
00:32:47,410 --> 00:32:49,760
of the Sutherland at face value,
697
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,100
paid Clive Bellman $7,000 for the painting,
698
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,883
and put it in a Christie's auction.
699
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,810
Well, they put it an estimate of 10 to 15,000 pounds,
700
00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:00,490
and it was unsold.
701
00:33:00,490 --> 00:33:02,490
We still have it, or the police have it.
702
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Peter Nahum was another victim of the scam
703
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,970
Drewe had launched on an unsuspecting art world.
704
00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:12,570
But so too was Clive Bellman,
705
00:33:12,570 --> 00:33:16,400
and he wasn't the only innocent recruited by John Drewe.
706
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,880
As with all con men, they use people.
707
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,790
They get out of them what they need,
708
00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:22,230
and then they discard them.
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00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:24,180
There's no support, there's no loyalty.
710
00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:26,430
They are users and abusers,
711
00:33:26,430 --> 00:33:28,380
and that's exactly what John Drewe was.
712
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:31,840
He told all his friends and acquaintances
713
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,120
that these were perfectly genuine paintings.
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00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,270
That some of them he'd inherited.
715
00:33:36,270 --> 00:33:39,250
He used people who weren't crooks.
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00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:41,600
He used straightforward people,
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00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,000
who were not involved in crime,
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00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,300
to present his numerous paintings
719
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at the various auction houses.
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00:33:49,470 --> 00:33:51,010
He stayed in the background.
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00:33:51,010 --> 00:33:52,160
He would send out runners.
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00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,016
He couldn't be seen in too many places at once.
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(gentle music)
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By this time, the gloss was already beginning
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00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,663
to go off the criminal life for John Myatt.
726
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:06,380
He went along to the sale of some of his fakes
727
00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:09,710
of Jean Dubuffet at a London auction house.
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00:34:09,710 --> 00:34:11,560
For whatever reason, he couldn't go,
729
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,363
and he said would I go to this auction of Jean Dubuffets.
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00:34:15,363 --> 00:34:16,293
And, I did.
731
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I had the same kind of feeling, actually.
732
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,770
Every time I got to the sharp end of what was going on,
733
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:23,970
I really didn't like it.
734
00:34:25,588 --> 00:34:26,540
I think they got about 40,000
735
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:29,173
or 50,000 all together these things.
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I walked up King Street, and then up the Strand,
737
00:34:32,630 --> 00:34:33,867
and then back towards Piccadilly, and I thought,
738
00:34:33,867 --> 00:34:35,730
"Well, this is the point where I really should feel happy."
739
00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:37,110
This is where you roll credits,
740
00:34:37,110 --> 00:34:38,797
and everybody lives happily ever after.
741
00:34:38,797 --> 00:34:41,090
"Why do I feel so
742
00:34:44,937 --> 00:34:46,187
"fed up with everything?"
743
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:52,790
John Myatt finally decided he had enough.
744
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:54,990
He called up one day from a telephone,
745
00:34:54,990 --> 00:34:58,067
and I said John, "You've just gotta (bleep) off.
746
00:34:58,067 --> 00:35:00,357
"I can't do this anymore, (bleep) off."
747
00:35:02,417 --> 00:35:05,540
"He said, "Did you just tell me (bleep) off?"
748
00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:07,977
I said, "Yes, yeah, (bleep) off, John,"
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00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:11,600
and down went the phone.
750
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,047
I remember, phew, that's that.
751
00:35:15,047 --> 00:35:17,303
That's that, by fork, spoon, and blood.
752
00:35:18,367 --> 00:35:19,511
Done it.
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00:35:19,511 --> 00:35:21,210
(gentle music)
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00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:22,680
As the relationship between
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00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,870
the two men deteriorated,
756
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:28,450
what neither John Drewe nor John Myatt knew,
757
00:35:28,450 --> 00:35:31,523
was that their forgery scam was about to be rumbled.
758
00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:36,950
When Clive Bellman paid his next visit to Peter Nahum,
759
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:40,610
he arrived at the gallery with a painting by Ben Nicholson.
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00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:45,280
It came with full provenance, labels on the back,
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00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,760
a catalog in which it was exhibited at the Rue de Seine,
762
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,300
or one of these non existent galleries,
763
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,650
some gallery in the 1950s.
764
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:58,803
It came with a certificate from the Ben Nicholson expert,
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00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,710
who was the ex-director of the Tate Gallery.
766
00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:06,993
I decided to buy it with somebody else, a friend of mine.
767
00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:10,910
This picture wasn't a great Ben Nicholson,
768
00:36:10,910 --> 00:36:12,600
but it was quite colorful.
769
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,270
We thought it was absolutely genuine.
770
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:16,580
We did not think it was good enough to offer to our clients.
771
00:36:16,580 --> 00:36:20,830
But we thought it was the sort of picture
772
00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:24,780
that clients of Sotheby's and Christie's,
773
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:28,080
because it was colorful, would pay good money for,
774
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,523
so we bought it as a purely commercial transaction.
775
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:35,720
Nahum even took the painting
776
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,330
to the curator at London's Tate Gallery,
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00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:41,540
who had recently mounted a Nicholson exhibition.
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00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:44,547
He privately said, "It's not a great one, but it's okay."
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(dramatic music)
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Nahum and his partner put the painting
781
00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:51,730
into an auction at Sotheby's in New York,
782
00:36:51,730 --> 00:36:55,523
and sold it at a $15,000 loss.
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00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,720
We are now at the point where we have bought two pictures,
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two Myatts, Drewe pictures,
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and we believe them both to be genuine.
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One is waiting for sale in Christie's,
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one been sold in Sotheby's.
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Some while later,
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Nahum was offered a second Ben Nicholson,
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by a man claiming to be raising money
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for a charity representing the victims
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of the Auschwitz concentration camp.
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My partner on the other Ben Nicholson,
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and I, are looking at this Ben Nicholson,
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beautifully signed on the back
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in Ben Nicholson's handwriting,
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in pencil, exactly as he does.
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It has all the paperwork,
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the catalog with it, illustrated in from the 1950s,
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and we're looking at the picture,
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and the scales start falling from our eyes.
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because there are labels,
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gallery labels on the back, provenance labels,
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and we think, this Ben Nicholson has exactly the same
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provenance and gallery labels as the previous one we had.
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Now, what are the chances of that?
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Not great.
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Then we said, "Well, this is a bit of a worry."
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So then we look at the signature, beautifully written.
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Once you realize, the handwriting starts falling apart.
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Brilliant, but you realize not quite good enough.
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(dramatic music)
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I had put the whole scam together,
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and I put all the documentation together,
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and I called in the police.
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(dramatic music)
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He believed that these were probably
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two sources that were linked.
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He showed me letters that he'd received,
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and from his professional viewpoint,
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having looked at the paintings further,
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he considered they were probably by the same hand.
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We were looking at a sort of well versed fraud,
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with a forger working behind it.
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Peter Nahum had worked out
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that the Sutherland also was a fake,
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but he did have a name for us,
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and that name came back to Drewe.
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Within days, John Drewe's name came up again.
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The next piece of the jigsaw actually
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sort of fell into place very quickly.
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Dick Ellis got a call at Scotland Yard
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from the man who ran the Tate Gallery.
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He was concerned that he'd been talking
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to people within their archives,
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that they had a problem within the archive,
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that somebody who had donated
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a large sum of money to them, 20,000 pounds,
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and as a result had sort of being given the key at the door
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could have now caused some damage to the archives,
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actually been utilizing them to mastermind a fraud.
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Of course, the name John Drewe was thrown in again.
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(suspenseful music)
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The last piece of the jigsaw puzzle
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came with a dramatic visit to the police
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of John Drewe's estranged partner.
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With the contents of the trash bags
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now under police examination,
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the eight years of fraud and fakes
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was about to come to an end.
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In the bin liners,
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the most prevalent thing was negatives,
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hundreds of negatives of a number of different artists.
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We had Giacomettis.
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We had de Staels.
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We had Bissieres.
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We had Jawlenskys, Aveclunes, Dubuffets.
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It covered at least 30 to 40 artists.
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You name it, 20th century modernists were there.
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It became pretty clear that there was
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all the indications of not just a large scale fraud,
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I think we'd all seen that before,
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but there was evidence there that archives,
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and not just from the Tate Gallery,
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but from other galleries had been cut up, had been copied,
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and clearly this was of great concern to the art world that
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where they go for their historic records
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have now been contaminated in this way.
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(gentle music)
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The first stop for the police
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as they began to unravel the extent of the fraud,
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was once again the Tate Gallery.
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Told the Tate that we had
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an interest in Giacomettis,
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because we've got a large amount of Giacomettis.
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We worked out, in fact, in the end there were between
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20 and 30 Giacomettis which had been done.
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We wanted to know the Giacometti expert,
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and we were put onto Mary Lisa Palmer.
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(gentle music)
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In Paris, Mary Lisa Palmer
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had been waiting four years for this moment.
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Finally, finally.
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We arranged that we'd go to London
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with all of our documents,
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which weighed quite a few pounds.
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(bright music)
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Within a week,
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Palmer was sitting in Scotland Yard
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telling detectives which paintings were genuine,
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and which were not.
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The trash bags also gave police
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the name of John Myatt as the forger.
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(dramatic music)
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Early in September 1995, they raided his home.
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It was six o'clock in the morning
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when Jonathan Searle and a team of officers
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from Scotland Yard arrive at John Myatt's home
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deep in the English countryside.
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I was in bed.
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I opened the bedroom window,
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and looked down at the path and there they all were.
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I think he was half expecting a call from police.
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He knew it would come down the line someday or another.
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When they said, "This is Scotland Yard
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"Arts and Antiques squad,
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"we have a search warrant for these premises,"
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yep, I just sort of went, click, that's it.
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Everything else is in the past now.
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This is a whole new thing from now on.
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Awful, terrible.
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He put his hands at once,
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and he wanted to come alongside.
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They came in, and I remember saying,
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"Well, you know, have a look around,"
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and funnily enough, there was a drawing of Sam on the wall.
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As soon as I walked into the kitchen,
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I saw a drawing on by the fridge,
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which had got telephone numbers written on it,
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and I knew, "Ah, this man can draw.
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"If he can draw, he's probably a good enough artist."
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Then I looked up the stairs, and I saw a Giacometti.
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We were there.
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(suspenseful music)
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And I showed them all over the house.
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They took paintings, and they took books,
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I got a Giacometti up on the wall, they took that.
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Sam came downstairs and said,
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"Dad, who are all these people?"
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I said, "Oh, don't worry son,
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"they're building inspectors.
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"The house is freezing cold.
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"They're gonna put a central heating in or something."
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I said, "You just get on and do what you do,
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"I'm gonna stand outside and wait for the school bus."
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So I got Sam on the bus and came in,
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and they didn't make too much mess.
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They took filing cabinets and all the rest of it.
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Said, "Well, you'll have to come up
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"across to the police station in Stafford."
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All the time I'm thinking, "Damn this."
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I'm sort of cross and also frightened.
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I've never dealt with police in my life really.
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(tense music)
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We took all the paintings that we found,
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and there were a number of other bits and pieces,
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and we took them back to Stafford police station,
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and we did an interview at a caution there.
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"Yes, I do know John Drewe.
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"Yes I have painted some paintings for him."
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John Myatt knew the game was up,
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especially when confronted with a particularly
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incriminating piece of evidence.
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They'd confiscated my briefcase,
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and in this briefcase they got this letter,
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and this was a letter I'd written to John Drewe
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saying I think it's best that we stop doing what we're doing
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because I'm fed up with it, and da da da da.
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And he said, "What's this letter?
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"You don't want to work with John Drewe anymore?
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"What do you mean you don't want to work with him?
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And I said, "Well."
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I was kind of spluttering, and thinking, "God,"
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and they're saying all these things
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it's being taped all the time.
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So, they went on and they started telling me
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what they thought Mr. Drewe had been up to,
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and what they thought I'd been up to.
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It became pretty clear
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that they knew more about me than I did,
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and more about him than he did.
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They knew everything, pretty much.
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(dramatic music)
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As soon as we had an interview with John Myatt,
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we knew exactly where we were going.
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We knew the depth of the problem.
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We knew we had, for example, approximately 200 fakes
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covering a large miscellany of artists.
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Myatt may have confessed,
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but it would still take time to nail John Drewe.
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John Drewe was a much harder nut to crack on this.
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As the police honed in on Drewe,
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the focus of their inquiry moved across the Atlantic.
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(dramatic music)
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A reputable New York art dealer
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named Armond Bartos had a Giacometti.
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"Standing Nude" 1955, that he wanted to sell.
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A year earlier, he had approached Mary Lisa Palmer,
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asking her to authenticate the painting.
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For me, it was simple in a sense.
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For me, the painting was fake.
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Therefore, everything was fake,
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but then I had to prove it to people
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who didn't want to believe it.
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Palmer warned Bartos
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to be extremely cautious about the painting.
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She had, after all, already exposed one fake Giacometti.
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She played for time, while she did more research.
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Meanwhile, Armond Bartos had decided to get his
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own confirmation of the provenance of his Giacometti.
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He hired a company called Art Research Associates
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to investigate the authenticity of the provenance.
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Little did he know, that the man he was paying
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from Art Research Associates was none other than John Drewe,
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the man who had forged the provenances in the first place.
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(gentle music)
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Armond Bartos flew to London,
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and met Drewe at the Victoria and Albert Museum.
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Mary Lisa Palmer heard about the Bartos visit,
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and tipped off the police, who monitored the encounter.
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It was a very sweet sting,
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because not only had he sold through intermediaries,
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Armond Bartos, a Giacometti new debut,
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but now he was showing him his forgeries,
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to bolster up his claim that this was a genuine.
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This shows that an honest dealer
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like Armond Bartos can easily
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be taken in by the fact these are cast iron provenances,
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and the provenances were very, very good.
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After the meeting,
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police broke the news to Bartos
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that he had been duped by Drewe.
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The poor man was not very happy.
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He was, I believe, quite angry at the time.
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In fact, furious, understandably.
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Police decided it was time
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to pull in John Drewe.
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Within days, they raided his house
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in a wealthy town 20 miles from London.
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John Drewe was very polite, courteous.
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The surprising thing to me was the amount of evidence
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that he had still got in his possession,
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incriminating evidence in terms of
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the seals which we had seen on various documents
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he'd created, we found the seals.
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Typewriters that he used.
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Even on the table in the living room
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were sets of documents that he was
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in the process of actually preparing.
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A huge amount of documentary evidence,
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material objects had been preserved.
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Drewe was taken to the local police station
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where he denied everything.
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He came across
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as somebody who could quite convincingly
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call black, white, and white, black.
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He accepted and took on board all the exhibits at once,
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but then proceeded to tell us that they were all genuine.
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At the end of it he invited us all out for a drink,
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on the grounds of how nice we'd been and pleasant.
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The four month trial ended in London
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in February 1999.
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Drewe conducted his own defense.
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It had its moments of sheer farce when,
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I mean, I would turn around to him and say,
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"What the hell are you doing, John?
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"I mean, I know you're guilty.
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"You know you're guilty.
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"They know you're guilty.
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"Everybody knows you're guilty.
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"So why don't you just plead,"
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and the judge would say, "Mr. Myatt,
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"would you please answer Mr. Drewe's question?"
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I couldn't see the point.
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We were gonna get found guilty,
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and we were guilty.
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We were probably gonna go to prison.
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The best thing to do was just straighten up your shoulders,
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get your thumbs in line with the seam of your trouser,
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and just take it on the chin, there was nothing else to do.
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John Myatt pleaded guilty,
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and was sentenced to one year in prison.
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(dramatic music)
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John Drewe maintained his innocence throughout,
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but he was convicted,
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and sentenced to six years in prison.
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(gentle music)
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Five years after leaving jail,
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John Myatt had an exhibition in London's Mayfair,
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the home of the art establishment,
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where his fakes had deceived so many for so long.
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I've got a show in Central London,
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the heart of enemy territory.
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What am I going to do.
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We had a dealer walking around here earlier on,
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and he was obviously a dealer the pinstriped suit,
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and almost, not quite the dicky-bird,
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but everything, the cashmere coat and so forth.
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He walked around with his hands behind his back.
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He just went out.
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He looked at the little Matisse down there,
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and he said, "Jolly good Matisse", and off he went.
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Very nice.
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Even the police responsible
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for his demise wanted a genuine Myatt.
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Jonathan Searle asked him to paint a family portrait.
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He said, "Yes, yes, I'll do that for you,"
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and commissioned it for a grand.
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And Charlie Hill has a Myatt too.
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He sent this to me last week.
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"To Charlie Hill, from John Myatt.
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"Very best wishes for 2006 and beyond,"
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and he has signed it as John Myatt rather than Magritte.
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It's amusing and it's well done,
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and I like the man a great deal.
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(gentle music)
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The exhibition was a sellout,
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and John Myatt thinks he knows why.
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Most people will come in the right kind of spirit,
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which is that it's a bit of fun.
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It's a bit of a laugh.
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Looking at a fake painting is a liberating experience.
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You don't have to pretend to like a fake painting,
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because it says, "Hello, I'm a fake painting."
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You say, "Oh, you might not go with the curtains,"
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or, "My wife might not like that
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"kind of little red blob in the corner."
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You can't say that to a Van Gogh or a Monet,
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because they're worth 25 or 30 million pounds.
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So it kind of liberates you to make your own judgment,
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trust your own judgment.
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(gentle music)
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But how much damage was done by Myatt and Drewe
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in their years of fraud and forgery?
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The most damaging aspect is that John Drewe
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literally created and changed art history
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by literally planting fake provenances in the archives.
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So he changed the body of work of Giacometti,
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and the other artists that Myatt faked,
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and really damaging the sense of history and legacy.
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(gentle music)
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Of the 200 or so Myatt fakes,
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only 72 have ever been found.
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Two dozen Graham Sutherland crucifixes,
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the 20 to 30 Giacomettis,
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a number of Ben Nicholsons, about two dozens,
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a number of Chagalls.
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We recovered a Clay, a small drawing,
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quite a pretty little drawing.
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Five Dubuffets.
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And so on.
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John Myatt though,
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has no intention of letting on now,
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which paintings are genuine, and which are Myatt fakes.
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They're out there,
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and they will blossom and flourish as leaves on a tree.
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Why not?
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If anybody came back to me with one that I'd done,
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and after 20 years I honestly wouldn't know for certain,
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but I thought, I had, I would always say,
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"No, I haven't seen this.
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You know, if you come to me with one and say,
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"Did you paint this 20 years ago," and I said, "Yes,"
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all that's happened is that you've lost a fortune.
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So, what's the point?
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What is the point?
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(upbeat music)
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