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What does Jack say he did?He raped me.He didn't?I didn't say no.
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So my question is...
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Can we say the "A" word here?
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Are we aiming for adoption, or are we all too shy to say it?
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Running Man?Who?
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Get off me! The Running Man on the canal.
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Why does he have your money in his trouser pocket?
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I gave it to him. From a hole in the wall, the lunchtime before.
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There's CCTV footage. Can you get it for me?
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Ella... Ella... Ella!
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Which version is it?
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They can't both be true.Stop.
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Mum... Mummy.
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How often do you get that in a jury trial? By the way, you did it beautifully.
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If that's a word you can use about cross examining a traumatised 13-year-old.
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You can. You have to be able to say that, or you're not a proper lawyer.
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What would you be?
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We need to go downstairs.
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DOOR OPENS
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You said you'd be gentle.
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She was.Did you see her shivering?
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When you agreed to run provocation I said there would be consequences.
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Dealing with those and understanding why they're a good thing,
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that's responsibility.
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Something that was sucked out of your life by that man.
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Ella calling out for you like she did... It's so helpful.
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The jury liked it, you mean?
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Helpful that they saw my daughter shaking like...like...
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and made to feel like a liar...
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Sorry.It's OK.
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I was on my own all the time in that house.
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I just want to...
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Is this all right?Yeah.
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Everything works.
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Cupboards open at just a touch.
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Drawers slide in and out very, very quietly.
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There's no noise, no mess.
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When we had people over,
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everyone would say what a lovely house we had
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and Joe would say it was all down to me.
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"Actually, it's all down to the wife,"
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he'd say with his tongue in his cheek and everyone would laugh.
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But it wasn't. It was him. He wanted everything white and clean and...
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..it was all glass. You could see round corners, you could see through walls.
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There was no room without...
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walls...
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where you could just be...
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It was glass.
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No colour, no sun...
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Sorry. I'm...sorry. I'm...
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What do you want to say about the house?
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I hate it!
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Yeah.
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(Yeah.)
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What's happening to me?
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You're talking.
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He could see everything.
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He knew everything I did.
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That night...
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what were you worried that Joe would find out?
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I went out and I didn't tell him.
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Kate's been saying she wants to go to court.
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I told her no. Well, why didn't you tell me?
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I've dealt with it.
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She's not doing well at school.
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She's fine. It's just that she's trying to support her friend and...
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"More effort. Unfocused. Not the usual Kate."
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If you won't take it from me, take it from them.
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What do you want me to do? Kick her out? "I'm sorry, Ella.
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"I know you're going through the most traumatic experience a child could go through,
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"but Kate's getting too many bad grades, so you'll have to go?"
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Life has to go on. All the normal things don't just stop because of Ella.
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Or your bloody Juliet.
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You know what stopped me from going mad?Ella.
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How do you know? You said you did it for her.
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I thought I'd lose her.
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Is that still going to happen?
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What about my baby?
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We have to get you off on the murder, and then it's just the manslaughter you're sentenced for.
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You said probation was possible.
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You have to know that a custodial sentence...
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18 months.
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What?That's how long babies can be in the prison, then...
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..then if the sentence is any longer, I'll lose her.
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I miss Ella.
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Not hugging your child, it's...
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It's been a long time.
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In the police station...
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..they were going to let me see her.
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They?
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One of the policemen.
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What happened?
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He broke his promise.
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When did he tell you could see Ella?
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After you'd left.
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Before the second interview.
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Mmm.
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I was present when she was charged with the attempted murder of her husband.
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What was her reaction?
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She asked if she could clean her teeth.
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Anything else you noticed about her demeanour?
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Earlier there was a lot of blood on her - her husband's blood -
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and she was very anxious about her nightie.
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Her nightie?
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What about it?
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It was on the wrong way round.
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And she didn't like it like that.
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It was very important to her that it be...
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..the right way round.
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What were you doing just before seven o'clock that morning?
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I was in the canteen writing my notes.
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You were nowhere near the canteen.
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You were down in the cells telling Juliet Miller
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she could see her daughter if she gave you a second interview.
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No.And it was made very clear to her what you wanted her to say in that second interview.
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No, never happened.
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So, if we were to ask Ella,
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about you setting up a chance encounter
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between mother and daughter in the cell area,
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to soften up an already deeply distressed woman,
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it would be amazing if she came down on her mother's side. It didn't happen.
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Are you saying the defendant is lying about this?
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Well, there's no other explanation I can see.
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Unless of course it's true.
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You stopped thinking the moment Juliet Miller arrived at the police station.
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You never countenanced the possibility this woman could
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be a victim of abuse, because that's not how you ever think.
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Actually, it's all we do think about.
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Domestic violence is right at the front of our heads,
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so I think it's... Then you'll know...
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that abused women present as cold and matter of fact when suffering from traumatic shock.
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I'm fine-tuned to spot a victim of abuse.
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I'm telling you, Juliet Miller is not what you think she is.
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He's lying.Yeah, and we can prove it, if Felix lets us recall Ella which will be hard for Juliet.Yes.
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So it'd better be her decision.Yes.
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Are you all right?
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Yeah. Fine. Why?I'm fine-tuned to spot a victim of a classy performance in the witness box.
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Put Ella on stand by for recall.
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Only standby?Yeah.
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Well, I don't want her to be here any longer than she needs to be.
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Or you haven't had instructions from Mum yet?
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The Bible or affirming?
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The Bible.
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Is it right, that the Drug Squad were carrying out a surveillance
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operation, on the Regent's Canal, between January and March?Yes.
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And do you have the surveillance log with you?
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Yes.Can you look at the entry for March the ninth.
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You're not looking at it.
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I know what it says.
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Is there reference to someone labelled RM in the log?
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Yes.Who is that?
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That's Joe Miller. Running Man.
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And, is there reference to someone labelled "J" in the log?
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Yes.Who is that?
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A drug dealer working the canal.
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And is there contact between RM and J
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on March the ninth?
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3:47pm. The log says RM stopped and talked to J and something was passed between them.
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Is it right that £620 in twenty pound notes
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was found in the pocket of Joe Miller the night he was stabbed?
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Yes.Is there a point to this, Miss Klein?
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Or are you just throwing mud around?
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Thank you, your honour, for your...
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guidance. We will return to this with another witness.
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Were you in the police station at 6:55am on the morning of March the tenth?
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Yes.Did you see DI Sexton?
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Yes.What did you have to eat?
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I'm sorry?Well, Sexton tells us he was in the canteen between 6:30 and 7:30, writing up his notes.
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That's where you must have seen him...
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at 6:55.
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It must have been.
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I don't need to remind you that you are still under oath.
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No. You don't.
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I lost an hour for you.I know.
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Thank you.You made me lie on oath.
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It wasn't me.Of course it was you.
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I had to corroborate your lie.
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It's your choice. You could have gone either way.
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Us and them, whether you like it or not.
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When it comes right down to it, on oath, you're one of us.
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RECORDING: 'I was upstairs in the bedroom with Joe.
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'Then I went downstairs.
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'I took a knife from the kitchen.
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'I came back upstairs with it.
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'What did you intend to do with the knife?
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'Use it.'
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Now, would you please help the jury by telling us about the tone of the defendant in interview?
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Matter of fact.Thank you.
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Have you discussed your evidence with your husband?
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Yes.Yes?
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All police officers do it and then they pretend they haven't.
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So when did you first discuss the investigation with your husband?
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Well, we were together at the police station on the first night.
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And did you see him around 7:00am the following morning?
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Yes.Where?
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In the cell area.
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Yes. 6:55am.
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You're able to be very precise.
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My life is full of shifts and notebooks, you know...
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Time matters.
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I'm never wrong about it.
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Anyone who suggested that your husband was
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in the canteen at this precise moment in time would be a liar?
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My mum has this expression.
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Pants on fire.Meaning liar?
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Yeah. Exactly.
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Brilliant. Brilliant.
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Yes. Police officers can tell lies.
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It always helps for a jury to remember that.
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The much bigger question is why Jane Grady is grassing up Juliet on the rape?
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What's in it for her? Where are you going?
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There's one thing solicitors almost always, always, do wrong.
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What's that?We spend our lives reacting to prosecution evidence and not enough time gathering our own.
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Lying doesn't bother you, then?
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What percentage of defendants who stand trial are guilty?
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As in, they did it?
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90%? Maybe more?
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You ask any brief out there off the record, they'd agree with that.
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Does lying bother you? That's what I need to know, Chris. How many get off?
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At least half.
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Yes. So you know what? I'm not really going to feel that bad about playing the game hard.No.
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But you are playing God.
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So if you'd have known what the party line was...
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..would you have lied?
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Would you?
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You lied, sir. Why?
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Because your husband doesn't deserve to lose his career over this.
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He's a good police officer, doing his job.
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Doesn't make him a good man, though, does it?
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Are you all right?
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I'm all right.
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Quite...pregnant. But I'm fine.
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You haven't told him.
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Why not?Because I don't want to.
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Dad...
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Dad!
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Dad...
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Dad!
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Are you tired?
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Let's go home, eh?
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(Come on...)
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I'm not coming home.
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How do you know?I went to her house.
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Jane never said anything about having a child.
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Did you ask?Yes. What did she say?
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She said she didn't.Well, she would say that, wouldn't she?
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How old is she?
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Twelve, thirteen.
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She said she wasn't raped by her husband.
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She couldn't have been more clearer.
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Are you a liar?
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Why?Did you tell the defendant that you have no children?
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Yes.Is that true?
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No.No, so you denied yourself any contact with your daughter whilst you were on remand?
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Yes, six months.
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Because if she had visited then the authorities would have found out.
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Well, you must have missed her a great deal?Yeah, I did.
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After six months it must have almost been unbearable for you.
259
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So you gave a statement to the police about Juliet Miller
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and two days later you were released on bail.
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Mmm.
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You'd do anything for your daughter, wouldn't you?
263
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Yeah, I would.Lying to the police about a fellow prisoner must have come very easily to you.
264
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I'm telling the truth.
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She knows it.
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Ask her.
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Joe Miller was the truest, best, most decent human being I ever met, and I can't stand it that
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he is dead, and I will not stand by and have his name taken in vain.
269
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What was he doing with £620 in his trouser pocket the day he was stabbed?
270
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I gave it to him. Do you usually carry that kind of money around with you?
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Between you and me, and these four walls, yes.
272
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One of the notes found in Joe's pocket has fingerprints on it
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belonging to a known drug dealer on the Regent's Canal.
274
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Is that what you're trying to pin on Joe?
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His daughter is outside. Bring her in here, Go on.
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Put it to me, in front of her, that her father was involved in drugs.
277
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What's the matter, darling? You ain't got the balls?
278
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It's what you do, isn't it?What?
279
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,760
Avoid answering the question by asking one back.
280
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You want me to answer your question? Yes, please.
281
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I gave him the six hundred and when it's stopped being an exhibit
282
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in this trial it will be going to the charity it was intended for.
283
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,600
It's part of your job to lie, isn't it?
284
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,280
You protect your people and you don't care how you do it.
285
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And just because Joe Miller is dead it doesn't stop you lying for him.
286
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Bank statement. March the ninth.
287
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£600 withdrawal from the hole in the wall round the corner from the chambers. Timed, dated.
288
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Here you go.
289
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He was running the London Marathon for the prostate cancer charity, cos that's the kind of man he was.
290
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And I sponsored him twenty six twenties, plus gift aid.
291
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Only secret he ever had from me.
292
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What secret?
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Do I have to say?Yes.
294
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He was running for the 10,000 men who die of that cancer every year in this country...
295
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..and he was running for me.
296
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Nice.
297
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Is that the right word?
298
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Everyone loves a victim.
299
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What? I'm making it up?
300
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,800
Excuse me. I've got to take a piss.
301
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Shit. Shit. Shit. Shameless opportunism?
302
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,160
Is that a fair description of what the jury are making of that? Oh, you knew about this...
303
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,680
What's Ella doing here?
304
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,520
We might need her again.Did you see her shaking after the last time?
305
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,280
So opportunism AND heartlessness? The jury are going to love you.
306
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,240
I don't know where you lot get the front.
307
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,760
He's right. There's a woman on the front row...
308
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,800
Every time I stand up she folds her arms. Jury are not with us, Jack.
309
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We HAVE to get something out of Ella.
310
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Do you think she should go to prison?
311
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I can't say, Ella. It wouldn't be fair of me.
312
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But what do YOU think?
313
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Did you see your Mum at the police station?
314
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Yes.
315
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So anyone suggesting otherwise would be lying?
316
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,400
Did my Mum say she didn't see me? No.
317
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She said she did see you.
318
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DI Sexton said she didn't see you.
319
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So which one's telling the truth?
320
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,680
I don't know. I can't remember.
321
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,640
Do you think your mum
322
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is lying?
323
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,840
She killed my Dad.
324
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,600
He was so nice to her. You can't know that.
325
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,120
You weren't with them all the time.
326
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,160
For example you can't know what happened between them, in their bedroom?
327
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,240
But I can. I do know.
328
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200
What do you know?
329
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,680
He said nice things to her in the bedroom.Like "I love you"?
330
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,480
Yes.
331
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,400
I'm sorry, Ella, but...
332
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you want to believe it,
333
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,400
so your mind makes you feel like it's true...
334
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,960
I heard it.
335
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,480
How did you hear it?
336
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,880
I sat on the stairs.
337
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,960
I used to sit...on the stairs.
338
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240
Did you hear anything else?
339
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,840
Yes.
340
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,120
What did you hear?
341
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,400
He said it really softly.
342
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,520
What did he say?
343
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,680
ELLA MUMBLES FAINTLY
344
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,160
We can't hear you, Ella.
345
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,880
"Roll over. Roll over, baby." Please, I don't want this. Please.
346
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,440
Mrs Miller, Please. My Lord, I really must object...
347
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,800
You need to say it louder for the jury.We need to see what she has to say.
348
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,560
What's happening?Ella.
349
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,800
You need to say it once more for the jury.Please...
350
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,800
COMMOTION "Roll over. Roll over, baby."
351
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,160
Ella... I love you.
352
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,200
Ella... Ella, please...
353
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,560
We'd better have the jury out. Jury retire.
354
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:08,560
Mummy.(I love you. It's OK.) I love you.(It'll be all right.)
355
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,320
What did Ella mean?
356
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320
Hmm?
357
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,400
OK.
358
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,320
You had a shower. Just before Joe got home. Why?
359
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,200
I don't know.Yes, you do.
360
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,920
Joe knew you'd had a shower.
361
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,160
Was that why he was angry? Where's Anna?
362
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,760
You knew he'd be angry.Jack...
363
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,400
When did you find out you were pregnant? Hmm?
364
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,880
Was it that day?
365
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Mmm.
366
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Why would that make him angry?
367
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,480
How did you do that to your hand?
368
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,400
It's the burn from the dishes. It's gone funny.After all these months?
369
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,280
That's not true. Why are you doing this?
370
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,400
This is not half of what they'll do to you in cross examination. You have to be ready.
371
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920
WHY was Joe angry that night?
372
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,840
Come on. COME ON!
373
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,560
JULIET SOBS
374
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,400
We haven't talked about the life insurance on the computer.
375
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Yeah...
376
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,240
I know...how low you can get when your life is not your own.
377
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840
It was you on the computer, wasn't it?
378
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,760
And I think I know why.
379
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,560
I'm right,
380
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,680
aren't I?
381
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Don't tell anyone.
382
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,800
Promise.
383
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,200
I've believed in you
384
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,320
from the start.
385
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,120
This is the end now.
386
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,600
This is where you do it for yourself.
387
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Anything from her on the life insurance?
388
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,440
Nothing.They'll know, won't they?
389
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,120
If I don't bring it up in chief, Nick will go for her in cross examination...
390
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,120
Then Juliet will be forced to deal with it.
391
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,600
There's something you should see.
392
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Cheers.
393
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Why did you love him?
394
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,720
He was funny and warm
395
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,240
and he made me feel like the most important person in his life...
396
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,320
And then he'd turn.
397
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,840
He'd pick on something I'd done, or hadn't done,
398
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,920
and it was so hard trying to do the right thing...
399
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,000
all of the time...
400
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,280
every single minute and trying to work out what the right thing was.
401
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,960
So what would happen when he... when he turned?
402
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,720
He'd be angry.
403
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Was he angry the night it all happened?Yes.
404
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680
Was he ever angry with Ella?
405
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,600
No.With you in front of Ella?No.
406
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,760
So she never saw him hurt you. He didn't hit me.
407
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,840
But in a way I wish he had.
408
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,560
Because then it would have been clear.
409
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,720
I would have known exactly what it was he was doing.
410
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,000
You see, I'd see him with Ella and...
411
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,880
I couldn't see it...
412
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,400
How could he hide it so well?
413
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,120
And then I started to think I was going mad.
414
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,600
Do you think he knew that?What?
415
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,320
That you thought you were going mad?
416
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,760
He knew everything about me.
417
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280
All of the time.
418
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Do you think he wanted you mad? A leading question.
419
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Re-phrase it, please. He told me.What?
420
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,240
He said, "You're not very well, and it's going to get worse.
421
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,840
"But don't worry, because we're going to look after you."
422
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,240
Who did he mean by "we"?
423
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Him and...Ella.
424
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,120
Thank you.
425
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,600
Who instigated sex the night Joe died?
426
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,520
I did.How?
427
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,120
We were in the bedroom...
428
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Yes. How?
429
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,920
I touched him.
430
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,440
Where?
431
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600
So you aroused your husband?Yes.
432
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,960
This is your reaction to being frightened of him, is it?
433
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,200
Is your daughter a liar?
434
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Well, she told us she heard Joe say that he loved you.
435
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,520
So you can't both be right, can you? So I'm going to ask you again
436
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,360
is your daughter a liar?
437
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,800
No.No, doesn't fit with your story, does it?
438
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Your claim to victimhood doesn't fit with a husband
439
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,400
who tells you he loves you moments before you stab him.
440
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,480
I'm going to come back to what happened in the bedroom.
441
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,920
But first I want to ask you about afterwards. You went downstairs.
442
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Yes.You put a coat on.
443
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,200
I thought I might be cold.
444
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,920
You thought you might be cold...
445
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,880
..and all the while Joe was lying bleeding upstairs?
446
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,280
Did you think he was going to die?
447
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,360
That's why I came to the hospital.
448
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,400
An hour and a half later, yes.
449
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,560
Where had you been?
450
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,480
I'd been walking in the park.
451
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,240
I didn't know what to do.
452
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,240
Did you think about Ella and what she might be doing?
453
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,360
You don't understand.
454
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,480
I understand that you left your 13-year-old daughter alone with her grievously wounded father.
455
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Did Joe see the knife you brought into bed with you?
456
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,880
No.Why not? It's had a seven inch blade.
457
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440
I'd...hidden it.
458
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,440
And was hiding the knife something you'd thought about doing
459
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,200
while sitting in the chair in the bedroom all that time?
460
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,960
I suppose so.So there was nothing spontaneous about your actions.
461
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,800
Was there? Everything you did was a calculated decision.
462
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,120
God knows you took your time.
463
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,800
Juliet Miller.No, there...
464
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Not easy manoeuvring yourself in bed to get the force needed to
465
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,800
drive the knife into the body so hard that it stays there.
466
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,920
How did you do that?
467
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,800
I can't explain.
468
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,920
Then why don't you show us?
469
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,160
No.
470
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,680
Why not?
471
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,440
I was just so frightened.
472
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,400
You keep telling us about being frightened and the danger you supposed yourself to be in.
473
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Why didn't you leave?
474
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,640
Why come back upstairs?
475
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,000
Why not walk out the door? Was anybody stopping you?
476
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,760
Why not leave, when you were sitting in the bedroom all that time, thinking that Joe was asleep?
477
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,600
So many opportunities to just walk away.
478
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,360
I had nowhere to go.The park?
479
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,320
The police station? The Rose house?
480
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,400
And what would I have said?
481
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,240
You mean it would have been awkward?
482
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,880
Embarrassing?
483
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:52,680
So you chose sticking a knife in your husband's abdomen over social embarrassment?
484
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,720
Why did you choose this knife over this one,
485
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,280
or this one?
486
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,960
Grip? Size?
487
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,760
Sharpness? Which is the sharpest of the three knives?
488
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,440
Thank you.
489
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Hold it up so the jury can see, will you?
490
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Which has the longest blade?
491
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,480
This one.Which knife did you choose?
492
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,000
This one.Thank you.
493
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,600
The other two knives were found lined up on the kitchen counter.
494
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,400
Did the murder weapon form a part of this line-up?
495
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,840
Yes.So you lined them up to look at?
496
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:07,280
Pretty clear rational decision making process, wouldn't you say?
497
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,760
Did the shoes you put on before leaving the house have laces?
498
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,680
Yes.Did you tie the laces?Yes.
499
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,720
Yes, which coat did you wear?
500
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,160
My grey one.Sure?
501
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,280
It was under another coat in the coat cupboard.Whose?Joe's.
502
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,360
You tied your laces, you picked out your coat from under your husband's,
503
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,520
you put his coat back in the cupboard, you put your coat on?
504
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,440
A matter of moments after you had stuck a seven inch blade in your husband's abdomen?
505
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,240
And then left your 13-year-old daughter alone, to deal with the horrors you had brought about?
506
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,800
What kind of a woman are you?
507
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,680
I'm tidy.
508
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Tidy people check their insurance policies, don't they?
509
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,400
On the computer.
510
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,400
5:01pm on Monday March the ninth just hours before you
511
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,160
gave your husband the knife wound that caused his death.
512
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,400
Is that you on the computer?
513
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,800
Juliet Miller?
514
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,640
No - the court needs a record of your evidence.
515
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,640
You have to say the word, please.
516
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Yes.
517
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,440
We'll take a short break.
518
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,800
(Anna!)
519
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,400
Um. Might I have a moment to take instructions, my Lord?
520
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,400
You have to go for her. Really go for her, push her.
521
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,400
This has to be a cross examination not re-examination.
522
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Miss Klein?Ask her what she took from the house.
523
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,360
I can't. It hasn't come out of cross-examination.
524
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,360
Yes, Miss Klein?Yes, it has. He went on about her shoe lace,
525
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,120
about her coat. JUST DO IT! Trust me!Now, Miss Klein.
526
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,640
What did you take with you when you left the house?
527
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,480
I threw it away.What was it?
528
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,320
Why are you doing this?What was it?
529
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Vaseline.
530
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640
Was it yours?No.Joe's?
531
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,920
What did he use it for?
532
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Why take it with you?Can I have a break?Why were you looking at the life insurance on the computer?
533
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,960
I wanted to know what there would be for Ella if I were...
534
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,480
If you what?
535
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,800
If I wasn't here.
536
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,400
Why would you not be?
537
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,920
I couldn't do it any more.
538
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,720
Do what? What couldn't you do?
539
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,360
What he was doing to me...
540
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,360
And what was that, Juliet?
541
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,160
Juliet. What does "Roll over, baby" mean?
542
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,400
Juliet?
543
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:16,400
SHOUTS: He was buggering me!
544
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Was that always what happened?Yes.
545
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,320
Did you have normal sexual intercourse?
546
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,520
No.Was it against your will?
547
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Yes.How did that make you feel?
548
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,920
It hurt.
549
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,840
And it felt like he hated me.
550
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Like I was worthless.
551
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,320
And then, this night, or...
552
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,600
..this time, he was so angry.
553
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,880
What have you done to your hand?
554
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,480
I've cut it.How?
555
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,720
Accidentally?No.
556
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,240
What? Deliberately?
557
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,960
It makes the pain better.
558
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,480
What pain?
559
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,760
The pain inside...
560
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,520
the pain inside better.
561
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,920
Juliet, tell us what happened when you got back into bed with Joe that night.
562
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,280
I can't.You can.
563
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,280
You have to.
564
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,920
I lay down on my front next to him.
565
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,560
I closed my eyes.
566
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,560
I felt him climbing on top of me.
567
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,920
I had the knife underneath the pillow.
568
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,720
He pulled my legs apart.
569
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,640
I was going to lie down on the knife.
570
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,840
I was going to turn it and point it
571
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,400
and let myself down onto it...
572
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,000
..but I couldn't.
573
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,400
My baby was inside me and of course I couldn't.
574
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:45,160
And then something snapped.
575
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,400
It was suddenly the only way.
576
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,560
What did you do?
577
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,120
I turned my head to the side.
578
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,160
I saw him close his eyes.
579
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:07,280
I slipped the knife out from underneath the pillow and I drove it back and up and into him.
580
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,600
As hard as I could. It went in so easily.
581
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,400
Juliet. When you were in the police station why did you want to turn your nightie around?
582
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,880
It had his blood on the back of it.
583
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,720
I didn't want anyone to know how he'd hurt me.
584
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Why not?
585
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,120
I feel ashamed.
586
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,400
Anal sex and no normal intercourse.
587
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Really?
588
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,400
Yes.
589
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,800
The evidence that you're a liar is in the Mother and Baby Unit at the prison.
590
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,840
She isn't his.
591
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,720
What did you say?
592
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,160
The baby.
593
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,640
She's not Joe's.
594
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,880
You didn't tell me.
595
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,920
You knew about the suicide business and you kept it from me.
596
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,840
I promised Juliet I wouldn't tell anyone.
597
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,640
So you chose her over me? Why are you talking about this?
598
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,360
She just got the truth out! She wouldn't have without me.
599
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,240
And the truth is, she was unfaithful to him. The baby isn't his.
600
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,560
The truth is bloody killing us. There are nine women on this jury.
601
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,960
I know what I'm doing. I'm saving her life.
602
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,880
Tell me.
603
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,760
Once.
604
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:07,240
When?
605
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,960
Months ago.
606
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,560
You're the father.
607
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Oh, my God.
608
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,160
Go to court and tell them the truth.
609
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,520
You don't mean that.
610
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,560
Somebody has to tell the truth.
611
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,760
It was just once.
612
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,560
Over a year ago.
613
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,280
You're her doctor.
614
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,520
Yes.
615
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,800
You knew all about her mental condition.
616
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,440
Yes.So this was a complete breach of trust.
617
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,960
Yes, it was.
618
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,200
Did she come to your house?
619
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,400
Yes.Did she call you to make the arrangement?
620
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,280
Yes.
621
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,440
She was supposed to be depressed at the time?
622
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,440
She WAS depressed.
623
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,720
I felt sorry for her.
624
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,280
She instigated the meeting.
625
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520
Yes.
626
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,800
And when she got there, who made the first move?
627
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,720
She did.
628
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,000
Thank you.
629
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,400
It was my responsibility.
630
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,320
She was vulnerable and she needed help.
631
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,880
I took advantage of her.
632
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,600
It's my fault.
633
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,560
Not hers.
634
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,480
I will always be sorry for what I have done.
635
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,800
Go back to the jury room.
636
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,760
Examine the evidence and consider your verdict.
637
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,720
BABY CRIES
638
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,200
(It's OK. It'll be all right.)
639
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,120
FOOTSTEPS
640
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Will the foreman please stand.
641
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,800
Have the jury reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed?
642
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,800
Yes.
643
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,240
Do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty of murder?
644
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,320
Not guilty.
645
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,800
(Ella...)
646
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,920
Systematic, cruel, extraordinarily creative.
647
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,440
The abuse this defendant suffered at the hands of this man
648
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,600
was directed at taking away her entire identity.
649
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:52,000
This was extreme emotional control, exercised over a long period,
650
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,600
and, in the defendant's own words,
651
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,200
it was there all the time.
652
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:05,600
I ask my Lord to take into account the level of abuse when considering sentence.
653
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,320
I ask my Lord to take into account, this woman's good character,
654
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,280
and the period this woman has already spent in prison with a very young baby.
655
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,880
Juliet Miller has two children.
656
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,960
There is nothing to say she won't become a good mother to them,
657
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,520
once she is free from the traumas she has suffered.
658
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,240
Give this woman and her daughters a future.
659
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,440
Will the defendant please stand.
660
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,320
You have been found not guilty of murder,
661
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,480
a verdict with which I entirely agree.
662
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,840
I have had the very great benefit of listening to all the evidence in this case
663
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:57,920
and it has helped me a great deal in considering the sentence I must now pass for manslaughter.
664
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:04,960
I take into account all the mitigation put forward on your behalf and your plea of guilty
665
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,160
and I reduce the sentence accordingly.
666
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,400
I have to tell you,
667
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,360
that I consider this crime to be right at one end of the spectrum
668
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,760
in cases of this kind and I have therefore decided
669
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,280
that you will go to prison for five years.
670
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,960
You will serve half of this term, before being released on licence.
671
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,400
It's too long. My baby...
672
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,680
All rise.
673
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,720
(I'm sorry.)
674
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,440
It's not time. It's almost quarter past.
675
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,240
It's not time.
676
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,920
We wait.
677
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,240
BABY CRIES
678
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,920
BABY CONTINUES TO CRY
679
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,880
SHE CRIES
680
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,760
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