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CHRIS GRAHAM:
Things were moving fast.
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How is Jerry Jacobson
doing this?
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That was this nagging
question mark.
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(CASH REGISTER DINGS)
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What we had to vet out is:
Who was helping Jerry?
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FRANK COLOMBO: Uncle Jerry
was getting the tickets
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and selling them to my brother,
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and then my brother would
sell them to other people.
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He took this little,
small operation,
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and he made it huge.
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Before my husband was working
the Monopoly fraud game,
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we had my son,
Francesco Colombo.
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Even though I adored my husband,
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I found out he had a mistress
on the side.
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I was just so mad,
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so I call Uncle Jerry
and he says,
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"You married the wrong guy."
He asked me to marry him.
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The next day,
Jerry's in the passenger seat,
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I'm driving, Frankie's crying,
we took him out of his car seat,
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laid him down,
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and a little teardrop came down
my face.
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I thought, "I'm never gonna
get out of this."
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-(TRUCK HORN BLOWS)
-(CAR COLLISION)
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[bright tone]
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- I don't know how to describe
Jerry Jacobson.
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Jerry had a way about him.
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They're either gonna love him,
or they're gonna hate him.
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There's no in-between.
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He could snap
in a millisecond
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and you don't even know
why he snapped.
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My kids did not
get along with him.
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He laid hands on 'em
more times than I knew about.
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[dramatic music]
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- Jerry Jacobson
was actually my stepfather.
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You know, he was prone
to have a short, short, fuse
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and a pretty bad temper.
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♪ ♪
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The most vivid memory I have:
we were in the basement.
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I can't remember
what the issue was.
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Seemed insignificant
to me at the time.
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And Jerry
just kind of lost it.
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He picked my brother up
by the head and was, like,
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bouncing his head off the wall.
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And I was in the room just...
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kind of more scared and hoping
it didn't turn towards me
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'cause I didn't understand it
at the time.
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- I stepped in between them
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and I told Michael,
my oldest one,
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to run out the front door.
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And I remember yelling
out the front window,
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"Just run, Michael, run."
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And Michael was, like,
nine at the time.
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That was the reason
we split up.
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[crickets chirping]
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We didn't communicate
after we split up.
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I was still a cop,
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but he would show up
on my police calls.
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All of a sudden I looked round
and there he is.
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Nobody knew how he knew
where my police calls were.
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He was just there.
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[ominous music]
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He made people afraid of him.
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He had a .45, 'cause that's
what we carried in Hollywood,
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and was trading gun parts.
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And he told me this himself:
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because he was gonna shoot me
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and then
put his gun back together
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so that if they
ran ballistics on it,
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it wouldn't show that
the bullet came from that gun.
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♪ ♪
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- He's a bad man, okay?
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And I knew what he had
my husband do.
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My husband pointed a shotgun
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at somebody's head
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by the order
of Jerome Jacobson
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to collect some money,
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and that's not the first time.
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He is not some sweet
little old man sick.
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He's a fricking gangster.
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♪ ♪
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Gangster.
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And I'm not afraid if he's got
a bullet with my name on it.
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We all gotta go sometime.
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[crashing, glass shattering]
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♪ ♪
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- There was a rumor
going around
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that it could've been
a possible hit
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to get my brother
out of the situation.
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- Could it have been?
- I don't know.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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[siren wailing]
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[indistinct
police radio chatter]
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- I was crushed
against the wall,
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covered in blood.
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I remember looking this way
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and there was a policeman
and a fireman right there.
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And I said,
"Give me Frankie, my son."
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Jerry had just taken Frankie
out of the car seat
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so he could lay down
to take a nap
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because he was getting cranky.
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And they said,
"Mrs. Colombo, stay still.
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We gotta cut you out
with the Jaws of Life."
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I said, "That's my son."
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[indistinct
police radio chatter]
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And soon as they cut me out
and took me out,
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the pain just went...
[whooshes]
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All through my body,
and I just screamed.
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And I could look over,
and I saw my son
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sucking a lollipop,
so I knew he was okay.
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Jerry actually crawled
out of the car
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with no blood on him.
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- The telephone rings.
"Oh, hey, Jerry. How are you?"
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"Oh, I'm okay.
We got into an accident.
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We're all being airlifted
to the hospital."
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I said, "Are you sure
you're all right?"
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He said, "Yeah, I'm fine,"
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like nothing at all was wrong.
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- I got the call at work
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and raced up there
to the hospital.
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He was in ICU,
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and they had him hooked up
to all these machines.
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And Robin had, I think,
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five to six stitches
on top of her head.
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- She had cut her head.
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Frankie's arm was broken
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and he had, I think,
a bump on his nose.
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- Yeah, and that was it.
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Most of the force of the truck
hit the passenger door,
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but they seemed like
he was gonna be okay,
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which was kind of odd
because he's in ICU.
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[indistinct chatter]
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My brother said that he had--
I think it was
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$15,000 to $20,000
in the glove box
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and then a couple of hundred
thousand dollars in a suitcase
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in Robin's mom and dad's home
in Jacksonville
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and told me to take care
of this one,
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take care of that one.
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So we went to the junkyard,
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and there was nothing
in there.
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Everything was gone.
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And the money in the house...
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disappeared.
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Everyone claims
that it was never there.
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Jerry would not tell me
that he had money at the house
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if he didn't have money
at the house.
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So then I took it upon myself
to go to his house.
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- He made a little detour
without anyone knowing.
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- I made a little detour
without anyone knowing,
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and I made
some things disappear,
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because I knew things
were getting really ugly.
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I got a couple of items
out of his freezer.
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He had about four
or five tickets.
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Not sure if Robin knew
they were in there or not,
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but I didn't want Robin to have
access to those tickets.
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I was not sure if the accident
was an accident.
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Was it a setup?
We didn't know.
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♪ ♪
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- It could've been a hit.
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I really believe that.
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I don't have any proof of that,
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but I'm thinking
something went wrong.
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And I was feeling it
and I got that impression.
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Because Jerry
was getting a little...
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on edge 'cause the pressure
was on him from someone,
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you know what I mean?
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Something was different.
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[monitor beeping]
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- Being a big guy,
when they put him in the ICU,
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they didn't realize
he had internal damage,
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so they were treating him
for his broken leg
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and they didn't catch the
internal damage that he had.
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[monitors beeping]
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And by the time
they caught it,
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they realized
his lung had collapsed,
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his ribs were broken.
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- Up to that time,
it was joking.
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It was lighthearted.
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He did not seem like
he was in shock.
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Even till this day,
I'm just astonished--
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astonished that the man
was actively dying.
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[ventilator hissing]
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- He was in and out
of consciousness.
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He had a ventilator,
so he wasn't able to talk.
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They had him on all
these different machines.
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Robin literally came
a couple of times to visit,
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and that was pretty much it.
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The only thing Robin
was always worried about was,
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"I gotta get to the house.
I gotta get to the house."
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My sister-in-law
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didn't give a rat's ass
about my brother
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while he was in the hospital.
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[melancholic music]
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♪ ♪
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- One of the reasons why Robin
didn't come around, though,
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also, there was a fight.
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Jerry's mother basically,
you know,
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"You did this on purpose.
You did this."
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And her swearing up and down,
"I didn't do it on purpose.
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I didn't set this up.
I didn't do this."
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- If it was in fact
and it was--
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if there was any proof
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that she was involved
with that...
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- She wouldn't be here
right now.
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- I can guarantee you
she wouldn't be here right now.
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- I will guarantee you.
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♪ ♪
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- The last few days,
it was me, my brother,
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my mom and dad.
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And the last words
that he said,
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he mouthed them to my mom:
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"Happy Mother's Day,"
'cause it was Mother's Day.
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♪ ♪
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And once that happened,
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his body just started shutting
down little by little.
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There was nothing
anyone could do.
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And the last couple of hours,
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everyone was
in the waiting room.
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But I was like, "I'm not
gonna leave my brother's side
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and leave him
in the room by himself."
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So I stood there.
I sat next to him.
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I kept talking to him,
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kept talking to him.
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Till this day, I mean,
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I don't know
if he heard me or not,
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but I held his hand,
and I stayed there
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until the...
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until the last monitor
went down.
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And...
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till this day,
I don't regret it,
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because he didn't die
by himself.
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I made sure that I was there.
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I'm sorry.
[sniffles]
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[sniffles]
I'm sorry.
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[exhales deeply and sniffles]
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Usually I don't cry.
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Just...
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I couldn't let him
sit there by himself.
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I couldn't do it,
so I stayed there with him.
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Hardest thing
I've ever done in my life
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but the best thing
I've ever done in my life.
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He always wanted
his son, Francesco,
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to be in karate
and this and that
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and all this kind of stuff.
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And I promised him I was
gonna help take care of him.
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I said, "I'm gonna
look over your son.
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I'm gonna make sure
he grows up to be a good kid."
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And I promised him
that he'd be okay.
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I said, you know,
"It's okay," you know,
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"I'll take care of him.
I'll watch over him."
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And if he was hearing me,
I just wanted him to know that
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the one thing that he
really cared about was his son.
253
00:12:10,351 --> 00:12:12,768
Uh...
254
00:12:12,851 --> 00:12:13,893
and that was it.
255
00:12:13,975 --> 00:12:15,975
I just wanted
to be sure that he knew.
256
00:12:17,851 --> 00:12:21,559
♪ ♪
257
00:12:21,643 --> 00:12:23,100
[sniffles]
258
00:12:23,184 --> 00:12:30,059
♪ ♪
259
00:12:30,142 --> 00:12:33,184
- His heart stopped
260
00:12:33,267 --> 00:12:37,934
because he didn't react
to the medication.
261
00:12:39,809 --> 00:12:42,059
- No, I wasn't actually
at the hospital
262
00:12:42,142 --> 00:12:45,559
because I was...
263
00:12:45,643 --> 00:12:48,142
I really didn't think
he was gonna die.
264
00:12:48,225 --> 00:12:50,476
You don't think it.
265
00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,768
It was early in the morning.
266
00:12:52,851 --> 00:12:55,100
My mother got the call,
267
00:12:55,184 --> 00:12:58,476
and she told me,
and I just lost it.
268
00:13:00,142 --> 00:13:01,517
Yeah.
269
00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:05,559
It was so horrific.
270
00:13:05,643 --> 00:13:09,267
♪ ♪
271
00:13:09,351 --> 00:13:12,267
[sniffles]
And that was that.
272
00:13:12,351 --> 00:13:17,934
So I had the guilt of driving,
the guilt of losing my husband
273
00:13:18,017 --> 00:13:19,975
and my son losing his father.
274
00:13:20,059 --> 00:13:22,225
♪ ♪
275
00:13:22,309 --> 00:13:24,476
It was just too much to bear.
276
00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,517
♪ ♪
277
00:13:33,059 --> 00:13:36,059
- My name is
Francesco Gennaro Colombo,
278
00:13:36,142 --> 00:13:40,309
named after Gennaro Colombo,
and that was my dad, Jerry,
279
00:13:40,392 --> 00:13:42,809
who, you know, is being--
280
00:13:42,893 --> 00:13:44,726
everybody's kind of
talking about him now,
281
00:13:44,809 --> 00:13:46,184
you know, 'cause in the '90s,
282
00:13:46,267 --> 00:13:50,434
he's one of the guys who ran
the McDonald's Monopoly scam.
283
00:13:50,517 --> 00:13:51,975
So...
284
00:13:52,059 --> 00:13:53,309
I'm his son.
[chuckles]
285
00:13:53,392 --> 00:13:54,309
- Give Daddy a punch.
286
00:13:54,392 --> 00:13:56,643
Give Daddy a karate kick.
287
00:13:56,726 --> 00:13:57,643
- Hiyah!
288
00:13:57,726 --> 00:13:59,934
- Ow!
289
00:14:00,017 --> 00:14:02,100
- We got in the accident
three days before my birthday.
290
00:14:02,184 --> 00:14:04,142
I was two.
I was in the back seat.
291
00:14:04,225 --> 00:14:06,643
And one thing
that's always stood out for me
292
00:14:06,726 --> 00:14:09,975
is, my mom said that my dad
took me out of the car seat.
293
00:14:10,059 --> 00:14:12,017
Sure enough, minutes later,
we got in the accident
294
00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:13,643
and that car seat was crushed.
295
00:14:13,726 --> 00:14:15,392
So if they
wouldn't have done that,
296
00:14:15,476 --> 00:14:17,851
then I wouldn't
be here right now.
297
00:14:17,934 --> 00:14:19,517
My grandma, my nonna,
298
00:14:19,601 --> 00:14:22,351
she showed me a picture
of the accident.
299
00:14:22,434 --> 00:14:24,351
I believe I was, like,
nine or ten.
300
00:14:24,434 --> 00:14:25,851
And that traumatized me.
301
00:14:25,934 --> 00:14:28,309
It's not something
that a kid should see,
302
00:14:28,392 --> 00:14:30,851
especially that that's
the car that their dad was in
303
00:14:30,934 --> 00:14:32,726
and that's why
he's not here anymore.
304
00:14:34,309 --> 00:14:36,351
♪ ♪
305
00:14:36,434 --> 00:14:37,893
There you go.
[chuckles]
306
00:14:37,975 --> 00:14:40,684
[dog barks]
- Well, hello.
307
00:14:40,768 --> 00:14:43,017
- There you go.
All right.
308
00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:44,100
Mwah.
309
00:14:45,267 --> 00:14:46,184
Uh-oh.
310
00:14:46,267 --> 00:14:49,517
- Uh-oh.
- [chuckles] Uh-oh.
311
00:14:49,601 --> 00:14:50,893
My whole life,
I've always known
312
00:14:50,975 --> 00:14:52,643
that there was
something empty, you know?
313
00:14:52,726 --> 00:14:54,059
There was always
something missing.
314
00:14:54,142 --> 00:14:56,851
And I always felt that
that was my dad.
315
00:14:56,934 --> 00:15:00,100
And then the moment
that she came into my life,
316
00:15:00,184 --> 00:15:02,100
it was instantly filled.
317
00:15:02,184 --> 00:15:06,684
Since I didn't know him,
I felt like he didn't know me.
318
00:15:06,768 --> 00:15:10,267
But now that I have a kid,
I understand that, you know,
319
00:15:10,351 --> 00:15:12,559
so much has happened
in this first year.
320
00:15:12,643 --> 00:15:15,893
Want to dance with this one?
You like this one?
321
00:15:15,975 --> 00:15:17,392
[music playing]
- [giggles]
322
00:15:17,476 --> 00:15:19,517
- I'm sitting there
playing with her, and I...
323
00:15:19,601 --> 00:15:22,267
every day,
I think about my dad.
324
00:15:22,351 --> 00:15:23,392
- Ow!
325
00:15:23,476 --> 00:15:24,559
- I promised my brother
that I was gonna help
326
00:15:24,643 --> 00:15:26,225
take care of his son,
Francesco.
327
00:15:26,309 --> 00:15:28,893
- But there was a lot
of things back then
328
00:15:28,975 --> 00:15:30,059
that happened.
329
00:15:30,142 --> 00:15:33,017
There was a fight
over custody of Francesco.
330
00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:35,351
- My family,
they didn't want us
331
00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:38,267
to be any part
of Francesco's life whatsoever.
332
00:15:38,351 --> 00:15:40,684
We were both devastated.
333
00:15:40,768 --> 00:15:43,934
- Last I heard, he's had
a baby and so forth and so on.
334
00:15:44,017 --> 00:15:45,309
I wish him the best.
335
00:15:45,392 --> 00:15:46,975
If anything else comes out
of this, I want him to know
336
00:15:47,059 --> 00:15:49,768
that we desperately did try
to be part of his life.
337
00:15:49,851 --> 00:15:50,934
- Yeah.
338
00:15:51,017 --> 00:15:53,142
[melancholic music]
339
00:15:53,225 --> 00:15:57,142
- My dad--honestly, I don't
have physical memories of him.
340
00:15:57,225 --> 00:15:59,893
But I have a lot of memories
from seeing home videos.
341
00:15:59,975 --> 00:16:02,768
- Say, "Hi, I'm Frankie."
- I'm Frankie.
342
00:16:02,851 --> 00:16:04,934
- Laugh.
- [laughs]
343
00:16:05,017 --> 00:16:06,601
- Oh, say--Frank, say,
"I don't feel good."
344
00:16:06,684 --> 00:16:07,768
Be sad.
345
00:16:07,851 --> 00:16:10,267
- Aww.
- Aww.
346
00:16:10,351 --> 00:16:12,768
- That's who I remember.
347
00:16:12,851 --> 00:16:15,267
You know,
I don't see his mobster guy
348
00:16:15,351 --> 00:16:16,726
who did all these things.
349
00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,184
I just see my dad.
350
00:16:18,267 --> 00:16:25,142
♪ ♪
351
00:16:25,225 --> 00:16:29,267
- Before I knew it,
he was gone.
352
00:16:30,975 --> 00:16:33,601
I just didn't even know
what to think anymore.
353
00:16:33,684 --> 00:16:35,476
I mean, I wasn't thinking
about the money.
354
00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:36,851
I was just thinking,
355
00:16:36,934 --> 00:16:39,559
"Oh, my God,
what am I going to do?
356
00:16:39,643 --> 00:16:42,142
What am I gonna do?"
357
00:16:42,225 --> 00:16:43,601
I don't have anyone
to talk to.
358
00:16:43,684 --> 00:16:45,017
I don't have anyone to go to.
359
00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:48,100
It's just me.
360
00:16:48,184 --> 00:16:50,100
- After my brother
passed away,
361
00:16:50,184 --> 00:16:52,309
a week and a half afterwards,
362
00:16:52,392 --> 00:16:55,476
everything was gone
in his house--
363
00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:57,975
all of the antiques,
all of the furniture.
364
00:16:58,059 --> 00:17:00,351
He had Mickey Mantle cards,
Babe Ruth cards.
365
00:17:00,434 --> 00:17:03,684
He had so many things
in that house.
366
00:17:03,768 --> 00:17:05,309
Everything disappeared.
367
00:17:05,392 --> 00:17:07,851
♪ ♪
368
00:17:07,934 --> 00:17:09,476
And Robin claimed that,
369
00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:11,893
"Oh, we got robbed
while we were in the hospital."
370
00:17:11,975 --> 00:17:13,768
Really?
- Mm.
371
00:17:15,309 --> 00:17:19,851
- I think Robin
as well as friends of hers
372
00:17:19,934 --> 00:17:22,351
stole everything
from my brother.
373
00:17:22,434 --> 00:17:24,184
All his jewelry, gone.
374
00:17:24,267 --> 00:17:25,726
All his furniture, gone.
375
00:17:25,809 --> 00:17:27,643
- There was nothing.
- They robbed him blind.
376
00:17:27,726 --> 00:17:34,726
♪ ♪
377
00:17:42,517 --> 00:17:43,726
- Yeah.
378
00:17:43,809 --> 00:17:45,267
- Yeah, yeah.
379
00:17:45,351 --> 00:17:46,559
- Yeah.
380
00:17:46,643 --> 00:17:49,392
I had--
there was a bunch of, like--
381
00:17:49,476 --> 00:17:51,351
we had a casino.
382
00:17:51,434 --> 00:17:56,809
And they got
all our slot machines.
383
00:17:59,851 --> 00:18:01,309
- Yeah.
384
00:18:03,975 --> 00:18:07,225
- I don't know. I don't know.
I didn't care.
385
00:18:07,309 --> 00:18:09,975
When you lose...
386
00:18:10,059 --> 00:18:12,059
you don't think about--
you don't give a shit.
387
00:18:12,142 --> 00:18:15,017
I didn't give a shit
about that stuff
388
00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:17,309
at all.
389
00:18:18,643 --> 00:18:22,059
He wasn't messing with
the most savory kind of people,
390
00:18:22,142 --> 00:18:24,434
you know?
391
00:18:24,517 --> 00:18:27,934
Um...[scoffs]
392
00:18:28,017 --> 00:18:29,684
I don't know.
393
00:18:31,684 --> 00:18:33,392
I don't know.
394
00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:36,142
[sniffles]
395
00:18:36,225 --> 00:18:38,392
- My grandparents
did point blame at my mom,
396
00:18:38,476 --> 00:18:39,601
and that's not cool.
397
00:18:39,684 --> 00:18:41,267
She lost her husband,
you know?
398
00:18:41,351 --> 00:18:43,684
She lost her soul mate.
399
00:18:43,768 --> 00:18:45,100
I 100% don't believe
400
00:18:45,184 --> 00:18:46,559
that was something
that she did on purpose.
401
00:18:46,643 --> 00:18:49,392
I don't--not at all.
402
00:18:49,476 --> 00:18:51,601
- Robin had lived
the lavish lifestyle
403
00:18:51,684 --> 00:18:53,017
when she was married to Jerry.
404
00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:54,601
She had the money.
She had the car.
405
00:18:54,684 --> 00:18:57,100
She had the big house.
She had everything.
406
00:18:57,184 --> 00:19:00,601
Once Jerry passed away,
that money,
407
00:19:00,684 --> 00:19:03,434
that cash cow,
you may call it, is gone.
408
00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:06,643
So now at this point,
Robin's hungry for that money,
409
00:19:06,726 --> 00:19:09,934
so she literally
would do anything at all
410
00:19:10,017 --> 00:19:11,142
to have the money.
411
00:19:11,225 --> 00:19:12,934
- The Wheel of Justice.
412
00:19:13,017 --> 00:19:14,643
Let's spin the wheel
413
00:19:14,726 --> 00:19:16,184
and see who it lands on
this week.
414
00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:24,768
Looks like we're gonna come up
on Ms. Colombo.
415
00:19:24,851 --> 00:19:26,476
She's been on the wheel
a couple of weeks.
416
00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:31,142
- Okay, Robin Colombo's
wanted for grand theft auto.
417
00:19:31,225 --> 00:19:32,142
- If you know where she is
418
00:19:32,225 --> 00:19:33,809
or any of the suspects
on the wheel,
419
00:19:33,893 --> 00:19:34,809
please call Crime Stoppers.
420
00:19:34,893 --> 00:19:38,142
That number is (866) 845-TIPS.
421
00:19:38,225 --> 00:19:39,476
Officer Hartley, thank you.
422
00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:40,476
- Always a pleasure.
423
00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:43,100
[dramatic music]
424
00:19:43,184 --> 00:19:44,809
- So she started
doing check fraud.
425
00:19:44,893 --> 00:19:47,184
She would get checks
that were unworthy
426
00:19:47,267 --> 00:19:48,476
and no money to back them
427
00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:50,768
and she would
write them out and cash them,
428
00:19:50,851 --> 00:19:53,893
and she got caught for that.
429
00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:55,684
I remember Francesco
actually explaining this,
430
00:19:55,768 --> 00:19:56,726
as young as he was,
431
00:19:56,809 --> 00:19:58,851
about how he would
go into a store
432
00:19:58,934 --> 00:20:00,684
and his mom would tell him
433
00:20:00,768 --> 00:20:02,684
to pick up
a $200, $300 pocketbook
434
00:20:02,768 --> 00:20:04,184
and just carry it out
435
00:20:04,267 --> 00:20:06,559
because the security
wouldn't stop a child.
436
00:20:06,643 --> 00:20:09,017
- Or if they did, it was,
"Oh, put that down, Francesco."
437
00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:10,225
- Yeah.
- "That's not yours."
438
00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:11,351
- Yeah, "That's not yours."
439
00:20:11,434 --> 00:20:12,643
She was training him
at a very young age
440
00:20:12,726 --> 00:20:13,975
'cause she needed that money.
441
00:20:14,059 --> 00:20:15,975
♪ ♪
442
00:20:16,059 --> 00:20:17,809
- I went to prison.
443
00:20:17,893 --> 00:20:20,851
I was trying
to keep up the lifestyle.
444
00:20:20,934 --> 00:20:23,934
Uncle Jerry
never even contacted me
445
00:20:24,017 --> 00:20:26,517
after Jerry, my husband, died.
446
00:20:26,601 --> 00:20:28,225
Nope.
447
00:20:28,309 --> 00:20:29,809
I don't--yeah.
448
00:20:32,142 --> 00:20:33,684
- I mean, I'll admit,
the first couple of days,
449
00:20:33,768 --> 00:20:34,768
I had tickets in my hand.
450
00:20:34,851 --> 00:20:36,684
I'm like, "Whoa.
451
00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:40,684
Should I take over
his business now?"
452
00:20:40,768 --> 00:20:42,267
You know,
'cause I could've easily...
453
00:20:42,351 --> 00:20:43,267
- He could've...
454
00:20:43,351 --> 00:20:45,225
- I could've easily went
to Uncle Jerry
455
00:20:45,309 --> 00:20:47,893
and said, "Hey, you know,
let's continue this."
456
00:20:47,975 --> 00:20:50,934
I could've easily
kept it going,
457
00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:53,601
but I didn't,
458
00:20:53,684 --> 00:20:56,225
'cause I didn't want
to look over my shoulder.
459
00:20:56,309 --> 00:20:58,893
I thought they had it stopped
when my brother passed away,
460
00:20:58,975 --> 00:21:00,184
so I wasn't gonna use them.
461
00:21:00,267 --> 00:21:01,601
I wasn't gonna give them
to anybody.
462
00:21:01,684 --> 00:21:03,392
I wasn't gonna try
to sell them, what have you.
463
00:21:03,476 --> 00:21:04,768
I just destroyed them,
464
00:21:04,851 --> 00:21:07,809
hoping that it was
never gonna be found out.
465
00:21:07,893 --> 00:21:10,267
That was my goal.
466
00:21:10,351 --> 00:21:11,434
Like I've always said
my whole life,
467
00:21:11,517 --> 00:21:12,726
"If you can get away
with something
468
00:21:12,809 --> 00:21:15,601
over and over and over,
you only gotta be caught once."
469
00:21:15,684 --> 00:21:17,100
- Once.
470
00:21:17,184 --> 00:21:19,434
- You get caught once,
you're done.
471
00:21:19,517 --> 00:21:22,392
[birds singing]
472
00:21:27,851 --> 00:21:29,309
- At this point,
473
00:21:29,392 --> 00:21:32,476
Operation Final Answer
was moving fast.
474
00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,309
Everything was on the table.
475
00:21:34,392 --> 00:21:35,768
[phone rings]
476
00:21:35,851 --> 00:21:37,225
It's kind of like a factory.
477
00:21:37,309 --> 00:21:39,309
I mean, everybody's working.
Everybody's writing.
478
00:21:39,392 --> 00:21:40,559
They're reviewing tapes.
479
00:21:40,643 --> 00:21:43,975
I mean, it's a whole
elaborate team effort process.
480
00:21:44,059 --> 00:21:45,643
♪ ♪
481
00:21:45,726 --> 00:21:47,267
In order to do this scam,
482
00:21:47,351 --> 00:21:50,934
Jerry Jacobson needed
what we refer to as middlemen.
483
00:21:51,017 --> 00:21:53,601
One of the early middlemen
was Jerry Colombo,
484
00:21:53,684 --> 00:21:57,517
who passed away,
died in a car accident.
485
00:21:57,601 --> 00:22:00,726
Okay, now what?
486
00:22:00,809 --> 00:22:03,809
The one thing that was
still out there was,
487
00:22:03,893 --> 00:22:08,142
really how mechanically
is Jerry Jacobson doing this?
488
00:22:08,225 --> 00:22:13,100
And that was, you know, kind of
this nagging question mark.
489
00:22:13,184 --> 00:22:14,934
- We were just building
the puzzle
490
00:22:15,017 --> 00:22:16,309
from all the pieces,
491
00:22:16,392 --> 00:22:17,809
and there were
so many different pieces
492
00:22:17,893 --> 00:22:19,017
that we were putting together.
493
00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,309
♪ ♪
494
00:22:21,392 --> 00:22:23,559
- We were working a lot
with the Atlanta division,
495
00:22:23,643 --> 00:22:25,267
who had a surveillance team.
496
00:22:25,351 --> 00:22:26,809
Kind of like
in the movies, you know,
497
00:22:26,893 --> 00:22:28,726
guys parked in cars
are following with,
498
00:22:28,809 --> 00:22:30,517
you know,
binoculars and cameras,
499
00:22:30,601 --> 00:22:33,643
you know, painting the picture
of this guy, his background
500
00:22:33,726 --> 00:22:35,559
and, you know, who he was.
501
00:22:35,643 --> 00:22:38,351
Undercover tapes
and the video were coming in.
502
00:22:38,434 --> 00:22:41,225
Conversations on the wiretap
were coming in.
503
00:22:41,309 --> 00:22:43,017
Lot of moving parts.
504
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,851
- Jerry was paranoid.
505
00:22:44,934 --> 00:22:47,225
He's been talking
about his phone being tapped
506
00:22:47,309 --> 00:22:49,267
ever since we were in Florida.
507
00:22:49,351 --> 00:22:51,184
He would always say,
508
00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:53,684
"Don't say that.
Our phones might be tapped.
509
00:22:53,768 --> 00:22:55,142
"Somebody be listening.
510
00:22:55,225 --> 00:22:57,351
You never know
who's gonna hear you."
511
00:22:57,434 --> 00:22:59,684
And one day,
we were just chitchatting,
512
00:22:59,768 --> 00:23:01,309
and I said something.
513
00:23:01,392 --> 00:23:03,059
I didn't think
it was a big deal.
514
00:23:03,142 --> 00:23:05,809
And he said, "Watch out.
Don't say it like that."
515
00:23:05,893 --> 00:23:08,559
So in a few minutes,
I finally said, "Hey, Jerry,
516
00:23:08,643 --> 00:23:12,225
when did you tell Leo
to go kill the president?"
517
00:23:12,309 --> 00:23:15,059
And he hung up on me.
[chuckles]
518
00:23:15,142 --> 00:23:17,893
I'm thinking to myself,
519
00:23:17,975 --> 00:23:22,100
"Why do you think somebody
would find you so interesting
520
00:23:22,184 --> 00:23:24,059
that they would want
to tap your phones?"
521
00:23:24,142 --> 00:23:26,601
[line rings]
522
00:23:26,684 --> 00:23:28,726
- Jerry Jacobson's controlling
all the pieces at that point,
523
00:23:28,809 --> 00:23:30,893
so he needed
to replace Colombo
524
00:23:30,975 --> 00:23:32,643
as quickly as possible.
525
00:23:32,726 --> 00:23:36,726
Identification of sources
that he could use of recruiters
526
00:23:36,809 --> 00:23:38,351
became his full-time job.
527
00:23:38,434 --> 00:23:40,726
- One of the middlemen,
AJ Glomb,
528
00:23:40,809 --> 00:23:43,225
came on the radar screen
fairly early.
529
00:23:43,309 --> 00:23:45,184
After Colombo died,
530
00:23:45,267 --> 00:23:48,100
Glomb had a number
of telephonic conversations
531
00:23:48,184 --> 00:23:51,017
with Jerry Jacobson,
and you follow--
532
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:52,934
you know, follow
where the evidence leads you.
533
00:23:53,017 --> 00:23:59,517
♪ ♪
534
00:24:03,184 --> 00:24:07,517
- My name is Andrew Glomb.
I go by AJ.
535
00:24:09,309 --> 00:24:12,142
One day, a friend of mine
called me up and he said,
536
00:24:12,225 --> 00:24:14,601
"I have something
you might be interested in.
537
00:24:14,684 --> 00:24:16,643
"Write down this number
538
00:24:16,726 --> 00:24:18,643
and go to a phone booth
and call me."
539
00:24:18,726 --> 00:24:20,517
I said, "Oh, no, no."
[chuckles]
540
00:24:20,601 --> 00:24:24,100
I says, "I had enough of that
in my life. I--
541
00:24:24,184 --> 00:24:27,142
Come on, I just got off
probation a couple years ago."
542
00:24:27,225 --> 00:24:30,100
I had just finished up
a drug sentence,
543
00:24:30,184 --> 00:24:32,893
and I didn't want anything
to happen.
544
00:24:36,059 --> 00:24:37,601
- Actually, that's, like,
545
00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:40,601
one of the best parts
of the whole story.
546
00:24:40,684 --> 00:24:43,142
[smooth music]
547
00:24:43,225 --> 00:24:45,267
First time
I ever did any kind of drugs
548
00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:48,434
was with Harold Robbins,
the writer,
549
00:24:48,517 --> 00:24:50,142
and we were in Monte Carlo.
550
00:24:50,225 --> 00:24:52,851
♪ ♪
551
00:24:52,934 --> 00:24:54,601
And he had a bunch
of girls with him.
552
00:24:54,684 --> 00:24:56,684
And so we're talking and that,
and I says,
553
00:24:56,768 --> 00:25:00,142
"In your books,
whenever they were having sex,
554
00:25:00,225 --> 00:25:04,309
they always did amyl nitrate
before they had an orgasm."
555
00:25:04,392 --> 00:25:07,142
[chuckles]
556
00:25:07,225 --> 00:25:09,142
So I says, "Harold,
557
00:25:09,225 --> 00:25:11,142
do you have
any amyl nitrate?"
558
00:25:11,225 --> 00:25:13,351
He said, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You want some?"
559
00:25:13,434 --> 00:25:14,975
I said, "Yeah."
560
00:25:15,059 --> 00:25:16,309
I didn't know what I was doing.
561
00:25:16,392 --> 00:25:17,809
So I'm sitting there,
562
00:25:17,893 --> 00:25:20,184
and this girl says,
"Let's dance."
563
00:25:20,267 --> 00:25:21,225
So I get up.
564
00:25:21,309 --> 00:25:23,517
♪ ♪
565
00:25:23,601 --> 00:25:27,351
I said, "Oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God."
566
00:25:27,434 --> 00:25:29,267
Everybody said,
"What's wrong? What's wrong?"
567
00:25:29,351 --> 00:25:31,351
I says, "I don't know."
So I called my friend.
568
00:25:31,434 --> 00:25:33,309
I said, "Steve,
get me out of here.
569
00:25:33,392 --> 00:25:34,893
Get me out of here."
570
00:25:34,975 --> 00:25:38,351
So that was my first thing
with drugs.
571
00:25:38,434 --> 00:25:41,017
So how I got
into selling them--
572
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,100
I had a cousin.
573
00:25:43,184 --> 00:25:46,225
And he says, "Can you get me
some quaaludes?"
574
00:25:46,309 --> 00:25:48,517
I said, "Let me ask
one of my buddies."
575
00:25:48,601 --> 00:25:51,351
I said, "Steve,
can you get quaaludes?"
576
00:25:51,434 --> 00:25:53,309
He said,
"Yeah, how many you want?"
577
00:25:53,392 --> 00:25:55,559
I says, "I don't know."
I says, "How much are they?"
578
00:25:55,643 --> 00:25:57,100
He said, "Well, how much
do you want to make?"
579
00:25:57,184 --> 00:25:59,184
I said,
"How much is there to make?"
580
00:25:59,267 --> 00:26:01,476
So that's how I got into drugs.
581
00:26:02,476 --> 00:26:05,684
And then in 1982,
582
00:26:05,768 --> 00:26:08,392
I had sent some drugs out
583
00:26:08,476 --> 00:26:11,059
to a friend of mine,
a customer of mine.
584
00:26:11,142 --> 00:26:13,517
They were selling
to somebody
585
00:26:13,601 --> 00:26:17,392
who was on the hook to the DEA,
586
00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:21,100
and they followed him
to the airport.
587
00:26:21,184 --> 00:26:23,726
[pop music]
588
00:26:23,809 --> 00:26:26,434
Next thing you know, boom.
[laughs]
589
00:26:26,517 --> 00:26:28,476
DEA comes out of everywhere.
590
00:26:29,975 --> 00:26:32,017
So I got 12 years
591
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,059
for six ounces of cocaine.
592
00:26:34,142 --> 00:26:35,851
[dramatic music]
593
00:26:35,934 --> 00:26:39,601
I was supposed to report
to Montgomery, Alabama.
594
00:26:39,684 --> 00:26:43,643
And they gave me, like,
30 days or 60 days to report.
595
00:26:43,726 --> 00:26:46,267
And so I just didn't report.
596
00:26:46,351 --> 00:26:48,809
I waited till, like,
almost the last day.
597
00:26:48,893 --> 00:26:54,100
And then I took off
for New York for 16 months.
598
00:26:54,184 --> 00:26:55,893
I was a fugitive.
599
00:26:55,975 --> 00:26:58,934
[Mozart's Serenade Number 13]
600
00:26:59,017 --> 00:27:00,142
You were always worried,
601
00:27:00,225 --> 00:27:01,476
looking over your shoulder
602
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,934
every time you see
two guys with suits on.
603
00:27:05,017 --> 00:27:06,434
You think it's over.
604
00:27:06,517 --> 00:27:07,768
It's like,
this could be
605
00:27:07,851 --> 00:27:10,267
your last day
before you go to jail,
606
00:27:10,351 --> 00:27:13,309
so just live it
to the fullest.
607
00:27:13,392 --> 00:27:18,225
It's like a movie.
You're living a movie.
608
00:27:18,309 --> 00:27:22,267
But then I bought
a Ferrari in Germany
609
00:27:22,351 --> 00:27:24,768
and I shipped it
to Long Beach.
610
00:27:24,851 --> 00:27:28,309
Anyway, I got arrested
in a doughnut shop
611
00:27:28,392 --> 00:27:29,809
in San Diego.
612
00:27:29,893 --> 00:27:31,017
[bell rings, handcuffs click]
613
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:32,768
[metal clanks]
614
00:27:34,893 --> 00:27:37,059
[phone rings]
615
00:27:38,392 --> 00:27:41,975
When I got out of prison,
my friend Don Hart
616
00:27:42,059 --> 00:27:43,559
called me and said
617
00:27:43,643 --> 00:27:46,601
that he had something
that I might be interested in,
618
00:27:46,684 --> 00:27:48,809
this Monopoly game.
619
00:27:48,893 --> 00:27:51,142
I was very skeptical,
and I told him,
620
00:27:51,225 --> 00:27:52,309
I said, you know, "Don,"
621
00:27:52,392 --> 00:27:54,392
I said,
"I just got off of parole."
622
00:27:54,476 --> 00:27:55,643
And I said, "Nah,
623
00:27:55,726 --> 00:27:58,309
I don't think I want to know
anything about it."
624
00:27:58,392 --> 00:28:01,643
And then probably two
or three days later, I said,
625
00:28:01,726 --> 00:28:04,768
"You know, let's meet
and we'll talk about it."
626
00:28:08,893 --> 00:28:13,517
Don was one of my best friends
for, oh, jeez, 40-some years.
627
00:28:13,601 --> 00:28:16,809
Very wealthy.
He was very well-respected.
628
00:28:16,893 --> 00:28:20,975
And he had a friend
that had access to tickets.
629
00:28:21,059 --> 00:28:23,559
I said,
"Why would the guy give you,
630
00:28:23,643 --> 00:28:26,517
of all people in the world,
a ticket like this?"
631
00:28:26,601 --> 00:28:28,017
He says, "'Cause he knows
632
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:29,684
I'm not gonna screw him
out of anything."
633
00:28:29,768 --> 00:28:32,351
And it made sense.
I said, "Eh, you're right."
634
00:28:32,434 --> 00:28:34,392
He said,
"You know, they need winners."
635
00:28:34,476 --> 00:28:36,392
And he says, "I have one--
636
00:28:36,476 --> 00:28:41,017
"a ticket that you could
cash in for $1 million
637
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,184
and we'll share it."
638
00:28:42,267 --> 00:28:45,059
Somebody offers you
$1 million,
639
00:28:45,142 --> 00:28:46,851
you're gonna take it.
[chuckles]
640
00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:50,059
Unless you gotta kill somebody,
and then you might not--
641
00:28:50,142 --> 00:28:51,726
you know, you might not
be interested,
642
00:28:51,809 --> 00:28:54,643
but I start thinking about it.
643
00:28:54,726 --> 00:28:58,059
I said, "Eh,
I better not do this myself."
644
00:28:58,142 --> 00:29:00,726
I didn't want
to go back to prison.
645
00:29:00,809 --> 00:29:03,893
So I had a friend
in San Diego.
646
00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:08,392
So I got a plane, and I flew
to San Diego the next day.
647
00:29:08,476 --> 00:29:10,184
And then I ran it by him,
648
00:29:10,267 --> 00:29:12,100
told him how it worked
and everything.
649
00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:14,934
And we were gonna split it
three ways:
650
00:29:15,017 --> 00:29:17,726
me, Don Hart, and Stanley,
651
00:29:17,809 --> 00:29:19,893
who I was giving
the ticket to.
652
00:29:19,975 --> 00:29:22,351
And I remember he told me
the manager said,
653
00:29:22,434 --> 00:29:25,726
"Oh, you know,
the last time somebody won,
654
00:29:25,809 --> 00:29:28,559
they gave the ticket
to St. Jude."
655
00:29:28,643 --> 00:29:29,975
[chuckles]
656
00:29:30,059 --> 00:29:32,476
Stanley says, "Well,
it's not happening this time."
657
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:34,601
[laughs]
658
00:29:34,684 --> 00:29:37,768
"It's not going
to anybody except me."
659
00:29:37,851 --> 00:29:39,934
And so that was it.
660
00:29:40,017 --> 00:29:42,601
So he mailed it in,
and then I would--
661
00:29:42,684 --> 00:29:45,142
after that, I made
several trips out to California
662
00:29:45,225 --> 00:29:46,643
to get the money from him.
663
00:29:46,726 --> 00:29:51,267
After Stanley was
Richard Sokolsky, I believe.
664
00:29:51,351 --> 00:29:53,934
Victor Marchitello
was the third person
665
00:29:54,017 --> 00:29:55,934
I gave a ticket to.
666
00:29:56,017 --> 00:29:58,851
I met him in prison
in West Virginia.
667
00:29:58,934 --> 00:30:03,100
The next was Stan Warwick
in Chicago.
668
00:30:03,184 --> 00:30:04,809
1999.
669
00:30:04,893 --> 00:30:09,601
Stan was a heart transplant
recipient.
670
00:30:09,684 --> 00:30:13,017
These newscasters said,
671
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,476
"Why is a guy
with a heart transplant
672
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,142
eating McDonald's?"
673
00:30:17,225 --> 00:30:19,392
[laughs]
674
00:30:19,476 --> 00:30:20,684
- Free food.
675
00:30:20,768 --> 00:30:22,809
- We have free food.
- And another free sandwich.
676
00:30:22,893 --> 00:30:23,809
- Yeah, there you go.
677
00:30:23,893 --> 00:30:25,476
- I'm too nervous.
I can't do this.
678
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:26,517
[laughter]
679
00:30:26,601 --> 00:30:29,809
- I don't think I met Jerry
680
00:30:29,893 --> 00:30:33,975
until probably halfway through
all these people.
681
00:30:34,059 --> 00:30:38,851
It must've been in '99
at Don's party.
682
00:30:41,059 --> 00:30:43,100
- Nothing.
I didn't think nothing of it.
683
00:30:43,184 --> 00:30:46,643
He was sort of nondescript.
684
00:30:46,726 --> 00:30:49,309
Then eventually Don
didn't want to be involved.
685
00:30:49,392 --> 00:30:50,768
He says,
"I don't want no money.
686
00:30:50,851 --> 00:30:53,184
I don't want anything.
I'm out of this."
687
00:30:53,267 --> 00:30:55,351
It was just me and Jerry
688
00:30:55,434 --> 00:30:58,309
trying to get
other people involved.
689
00:30:58,392 --> 00:30:59,851
But I never--
690
00:30:59,934 --> 00:31:03,309
I can honestly say I never had
a close relationship with him.
691
00:31:05,225 --> 00:31:10,309
- Turned out, Andrew Glomb
was a large recruiter,
692
00:31:10,392 --> 00:31:13,184
had provided quite a few into--
693
00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:17,017
had enriched himself
and Uncle Jerry.
694
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:20,643
He had kind of a wide net there
of individuals
695
00:31:20,726 --> 00:31:23,851
who were willing to participate
in this fraud scheme.
696
00:31:23,934 --> 00:31:25,643
[line rings]
697
00:31:25,726 --> 00:31:28,225
♪ ♪
698
00:31:28,309 --> 00:31:29,684
So when we were
on the phones,
699
00:31:29,768 --> 00:31:31,142
we needed to be
on the recruiters,
700
00:31:31,225 --> 00:31:35,017
and that's where we were
focusing our investigation.
701
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,893
- Back then, everybody
got a bill every month
702
00:31:36,975 --> 00:31:39,017
with all the long-distance
calls that you made,
703
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,059
and I remember looking
at the toll records.
704
00:31:41,142 --> 00:31:42,225
On one part of the ledger
705
00:31:42,309 --> 00:31:44,017
is all your winners
and their phone numbers.
706
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,768
Then on the other end
of the ledger, Jerry Jacobson.
707
00:31:46,851 --> 00:31:49,559
And of the hundreds of calls
that each made,
708
00:31:49,643 --> 00:31:50,893
there would be,
709
00:31:50,975 --> 00:31:52,559
"Wow, they're both calling
a common number.
710
00:31:52,643 --> 00:31:53,809
Look at that."
711
00:31:53,893 --> 00:31:56,059
We have, "This winner
has called AJ Glomb.
712
00:31:56,142 --> 00:31:58,559
So has Jerry Jacobson."
713
00:31:58,643 --> 00:31:59,893
But that--yeah,
that's how we started
714
00:31:59,975 --> 00:32:01,392
finding other middlemen.
715
00:32:01,476 --> 00:32:04,100
So then you start looking
at Dwight Baker.
716
00:32:04,184 --> 00:32:11,142
♪ ♪
717
00:32:26,517 --> 00:32:28,434
They're all $1/2 million
or better,
718
00:32:28,517 --> 00:32:30,267
$450,000 and up.
719
00:32:30,351 --> 00:32:32,601
I owned all this property
on the left at one time.
720
00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:36,351
I was gonna put a little
golf course in here.
721
00:32:36,434 --> 00:32:38,559
I'm Dwight Baker, developer.
722
00:32:38,643 --> 00:32:41,267
I got a real estate broker's
license and builder's license
723
00:32:41,351 --> 00:32:43,643
and developed quite a number
of projects.
724
00:32:43,726 --> 00:32:45,809
Probably over 1,400
of different acres
725
00:32:45,893 --> 00:32:47,684
in South Carolina.
726
00:32:52,017 --> 00:32:53,392
I met Jerry
727
00:32:53,476 --> 00:32:56,768
when I sold Jerry a piece
of property in a subdivision
728
00:32:56,851 --> 00:32:59,100
and ended up
building a house and a dock.
729
00:32:59,184 --> 00:33:00,975
And I sold him
a couple of lots
730
00:33:01,059 --> 00:33:02,476
in another subdivision.
731
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,643
Right below that sign there,
732
00:33:04,726 --> 00:33:07,809
the two lots
that Jacobson owned.
733
00:33:07,893 --> 00:33:09,476
Right here.
734
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,726
I think
it's this property here.
735
00:33:13,893 --> 00:33:16,559
I don't know if there's houses
on 'em now or not.
736
00:33:19,142 --> 00:33:22,017
My family, they're probably
not gonna be happy
737
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,643
with me sitting here...
[chuckles]
738
00:33:24,726 --> 00:33:26,309
And telling this story.
739
00:33:26,392 --> 00:33:28,142
[choral music]
740
00:33:28,225 --> 00:33:32,768
We were all LDS, which was
Latter-day Saint family.
741
00:33:32,851 --> 00:33:36,768
And I had a high profile
in the community.
742
00:33:36,851 --> 00:33:38,643
You try to live a good life.
743
00:33:38,726 --> 00:33:40,643
You try to do what's right.
744
00:33:40,726 --> 00:33:41,975
Probably one
of my biggest regrets,
745
00:33:42,059 --> 00:33:43,893
being involved
in this McDonald's thing.
746
00:33:43,975 --> 00:33:44,893
Yeah.
747
00:33:44,975 --> 00:33:47,351
I shouldn't have been
involved in it.
748
00:33:47,434 --> 00:33:50,184
Um...
749
00:33:50,267 --> 00:33:52,267
yep.
750
00:33:52,934 --> 00:33:56,017
You know, at that time
I was so successful,
751
00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,809
but one day,
I jumped on a motor grader
752
00:34:00,893 --> 00:34:03,559
and had an accident.
753
00:34:04,934 --> 00:34:09,309
I was backing up the hill
when it stalled out.
754
00:34:09,392 --> 00:34:11,643
[engine slows and shuts off]
755
00:34:14,267 --> 00:34:16,267
[rock crunching]
756
00:34:17,893 --> 00:34:20,225
Put me in the hospital
ten days.
757
00:34:20,309 --> 00:34:24,601
And that's when Jerry had
first let me know what he did,
758
00:34:24,684 --> 00:34:27,351
and it was quite interesting.
759
00:34:30,476 --> 00:34:32,059
[phone rings]
760
00:34:32,142 --> 00:34:35,225
He called me
while I was recuperating
761
00:34:35,309 --> 00:34:36,726
from the accident
762
00:34:36,809 --> 00:34:40,059
and asked me if I wanted
to ride up the mountain.
763
00:34:40,142 --> 00:34:41,726
I said, "You'll have
to pull up to the door,
764
00:34:41,809 --> 00:34:43,434
'cause, you know,
I got a walker."
765
00:34:43,517 --> 00:34:44,434
He said, "Okay."
766
00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:47,351
So he pulls up
to the back door,
767
00:34:47,434 --> 00:34:49,017
and we go riding
up the mountain.
768
00:34:51,142 --> 00:34:55,100
He said that he was
representing McDonald's
769
00:34:55,184 --> 00:34:58,643
in the distribution
of the game pieces.
770
00:34:58,726 --> 00:35:00,684
He knew I was going
through a tough time,
771
00:35:00,768 --> 00:35:04,768
so he offered me a game piece
if I had $100,000.
772
00:35:04,851 --> 00:35:07,768
I didn't have $100,000,
so he said,
773
00:35:07,851 --> 00:35:10,726
"Listen, if you want one,
it's $100,000.
774
00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:12,267
It's the only way
you're gonna get one."
775
00:35:12,351 --> 00:35:14,267
He said, "I have
the responsibility
776
00:35:14,351 --> 00:35:16,100
"of distributing;
they tell me where to go.
777
00:35:16,184 --> 00:35:19,100
So if you want a game piece,
this is how it's done."
778
00:35:19,184 --> 00:35:21,893
This is the subdivision
that we were in.
779
00:35:21,975 --> 00:35:24,017
Traded game pieces.
I gave him money.
780
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,934
It was just a--
it was a secluded place, yeah.
781
00:35:28,017 --> 00:35:30,267
Just a secluded place.
782
00:35:30,351 --> 00:35:32,809
I knew he was selling
the game pieces.
783
00:35:35,517 --> 00:35:36,934
And I asked him,
I said, "Jerry,
784
00:35:37,017 --> 00:35:39,643
what happens if McDonald's
finds out about it?"
785
00:35:39,726 --> 00:35:41,434
He said, "They're not gonna
do anything about it."
786
00:35:41,517 --> 00:35:42,601
I said, "Why is that?"
787
00:35:42,684 --> 00:35:44,643
He said,
"Because these game pieces
788
00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:48,142
"increase their sales by 7%
out of 26,000 stores.
789
00:35:48,225 --> 00:35:50,643
"Factoring in
a $1 million game piece
790
00:35:50,726 --> 00:35:52,517
"on that kind of money,
791
00:35:52,601 --> 00:35:55,017
"$89 million, $100 million?
792
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,142
"They didn't care.
793
00:35:56,225 --> 00:35:57,601
"They just--if somebody got it,
794
00:35:57,684 --> 00:35:58,934
"they didn't care
if it went in the trash.
795
00:35:59,017 --> 00:36:00,726
They didn't care about it.
It was factored in."
796
00:36:00,809 --> 00:36:03,392
That was his story.
I bought it.
797
00:36:05,225 --> 00:36:07,768
I did not believe
that there was anything here
798
00:36:07,851 --> 00:36:10,434
other than
we were cheating in a game.
799
00:36:10,517 --> 00:36:12,768
I don't know if it was
the OxyContin from the--
800
00:36:12,851 --> 00:36:16,267
you know, the accident,
but I took him up on it,
801
00:36:16,351 --> 00:36:17,851
'cause I didn't know if
I was ever gonna walk again,
802
00:36:17,934 --> 00:36:20,309
let alone work again.
803
00:36:20,392 --> 00:36:22,643
I said, "You know,
I don't have $100,000,
804
00:36:22,726 --> 00:36:25,142
but I might know
somebody that does."
805
00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:28,059
- Breakfast, lunch, or dinner,
there's always a line.
806
00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:29,809
- A Big Mac combo, please.
807
00:36:31,768 --> 00:36:34,059
- Serving over 13 million
McDonald's customers
808
00:36:34,142 --> 00:36:38,017
each year in the U.S.,
double that globally.
809
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,392
So you can imagine
how rare it is to see this.
810
00:36:40,476 --> 00:36:42,684
[cheers and applause]
811
00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:45,726
George Chandler of Walhalla
just won $1 million
812
00:36:45,809 --> 00:36:50,100
in the Hatch, Match & Win
game right here in West Union,
813
00:36:50,184 --> 00:36:52,184
and Chandler was all smiles.
814
00:36:52,267 --> 00:36:53,476
- We, you know,
815
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,851
bought our breakfast
and I got, you know,
816
00:36:54,934 --> 00:36:57,351
my hash browns,
coffee, whatever, and...
817
00:36:57,434 --> 00:37:01,643
I peeled it off,
and there it was.
818
00:37:04,934 --> 00:37:10,017
♪ O beautiful
for spacious skies ♪
819
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,975
♪ For amber waves of grain ♪
820
00:37:14,059 --> 00:37:15,267
[cows moo]
821
00:37:15,351 --> 00:37:19,726
♪ For purple mountain
majesties ♪
822
00:37:19,809 --> 00:37:21,809
Come on over here, girls!
823
00:37:21,893 --> 00:37:26,434
♪ Across the fruited plain ♪
824
00:37:26,517 --> 00:37:27,934
♪ America ♪
825
00:37:28,017 --> 00:37:29,726
Come on!
826
00:37:29,809 --> 00:37:31,893
♪ America ♪
827
00:37:31,975 --> 00:37:35,392
♪ God shed his grace on thee ♪
828
00:37:35,476 --> 00:37:37,559
[chuckles]
Just like that.
829
00:37:37,643 --> 00:37:39,684
See, they like it.
830
00:37:39,768 --> 00:37:43,517
♪ From sea to shining sea ♪
831
00:37:43,601 --> 00:37:46,559
We should've brought some more
feed, shouldn't we, girls?
832
00:37:46,643 --> 00:37:48,059
Hmm?
833
00:37:48,142 --> 00:37:49,809
I'm a pretty lucky guy.
834
00:37:51,142 --> 00:37:53,726
It's not within
my personal capacity
835
00:37:53,809 --> 00:37:55,267
to have achieved
a lot of the things
836
00:37:55,351 --> 00:37:58,309
I've been able to do in life.
837
00:37:58,392 --> 00:37:59,559
I don't know--you know,
838
00:37:59,643 --> 00:38:02,309
they say God looks after
fools and children.
839
00:38:02,392 --> 00:38:04,309
I don't know which category
I fall into,
840
00:38:04,392 --> 00:38:08,142
but it's one of 'em.
[chuckles]
841
00:38:10,684 --> 00:38:12,975
All right,
where do we go from here?
842
00:38:13,059 --> 00:38:15,768
[soft music]
843
00:38:15,851 --> 00:38:17,517
I'm George Chandler.
844
00:38:17,601 --> 00:38:20,434
I grew up in abject poverty.
845
00:38:20,517 --> 00:38:21,809
I was raised Mormon,
846
00:38:21,893 --> 00:38:23,768
one of eight kids.
847
00:38:23,851 --> 00:38:26,934
And we grew up in here in rural
Oconee County, South Carolina.
848
00:38:27,017 --> 00:38:28,142
And we were poor.
849
00:38:28,225 --> 00:38:30,893
I didn't have running water
until 1986.
850
00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:33,643
So I mean, we're not talking
about ancient history here.
851
00:38:33,726 --> 00:38:35,809
We're talking about 1986.
852
00:38:35,893 --> 00:38:38,351
Most people have running water
at that point in time.
853
00:38:38,434 --> 00:38:40,476
We were still using a well.
854
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:41,476
- What do you think?
855
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:43,975
- Dwight was very successful.
856
00:38:44,059 --> 00:38:46,351
He had a family.
He had five kids.
857
00:38:46,434 --> 00:38:48,142
I became friends with his son,
858
00:38:48,225 --> 00:38:52,309
and when I was about 12,
I left home,
859
00:38:52,392 --> 00:38:57,267
and Dwight Baker was a foster
father to me for a time.
860
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:00,142
- Well, George and I--I mean,
861
00:39:00,225 --> 00:39:03,184
originally we went
to church together--families.
862
00:39:03,267 --> 00:39:04,351
So we took him in.
863
00:39:04,434 --> 00:39:06,267
We became foster parents
for George.
864
00:39:06,351 --> 00:39:09,017
And he grew up
with our kids.
865
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,934
- You know,
being in such a big family
866
00:39:11,017 --> 00:39:13,142
and being poor especially,
867
00:39:13,225 --> 00:39:16,392
why would I not want
to move in with Dwight?
868
00:39:19,267 --> 00:39:21,851
You know, he drove a BMW
and, you know,
869
00:39:21,934 --> 00:39:27,309
had those successful
characteristics that I wanted.
870
00:39:28,768 --> 00:39:31,684
- George has always been
highly special.
871
00:39:31,768 --> 00:39:36,684
I mean, he wanted
just to absorb knowledge.
872
00:39:36,768 --> 00:39:38,351
Absorbed anything
you could teach him.
873
00:39:38,434 --> 00:39:40,559
He knew,
if he was gonna get out,
874
00:39:40,643 --> 00:39:41,975
he needed to work hard.
875
00:39:43,267 --> 00:39:46,975
- When I was 15 years old,
I quit school.
876
00:39:47,059 --> 00:39:49,517
I had grown a mustache
to make me look older
877
00:39:49,601 --> 00:39:53,059
and told some local employers
that I was 18,
878
00:39:53,142 --> 00:39:54,559
and I immediately
went to work.
879
00:39:54,643 --> 00:39:57,975
I worked 16 hours a day
instead of 8.
880
00:39:58,059 --> 00:40:00,934
That proved to work for me,
and I became an entrepreneur
881
00:40:01,017 --> 00:40:02,392
and got in a lot
of different things:
882
00:40:02,476 --> 00:40:05,267
communications company,
septic system installers,
883
00:40:05,351 --> 00:40:07,559
security company,
medical alarm monitoring,
884
00:40:07,643 --> 00:40:08,851
industrial programming,
885
00:40:08,934 --> 00:40:10,434
residential rentals,
commercial rentals.
886
00:40:10,517 --> 00:40:11,768
I told him I wanted
to be a millionaire
887
00:40:11,851 --> 00:40:13,142
by the time I was 25.
888
00:40:16,809 --> 00:40:19,434
So when Dwight came to me
with the ticket,
889
00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:21,559
he knew that I was
in a position that I--
890
00:40:21,643 --> 00:40:24,851
you know, that I had some cash
to work with.
891
00:40:24,934 --> 00:40:28,726
I mean, this is
a $1 million winning ticket.
892
00:40:28,809 --> 00:40:31,768
And he's got it
in a ziplock sandwich bag
893
00:40:31,851 --> 00:40:34,100
that's not even zipped.
894
00:40:34,184 --> 00:40:36,559
And he lays it down on my desk,
895
00:40:36,643 --> 00:40:39,225
and I take it out, look at it.
896
00:40:39,309 --> 00:40:40,601
I mean, it just says,
897
00:40:40,684 --> 00:40:43,975
"$1 million winner.
Call 1-800"--whatever.
898
00:40:45,351 --> 00:40:47,225
- I said,
"George, a friend of mine
899
00:40:47,309 --> 00:40:49,934
got this $1 million game piece
from McDonald's."
900
00:40:50,017 --> 00:40:52,100
And I said, "He's going
through a divorce."
901
00:40:52,184 --> 00:40:53,726
I said,
"He offered to sell it to me."
902
00:40:53,809 --> 00:40:55,434
He said, "By the time
I split it with her
903
00:40:55,517 --> 00:40:56,643
and pay the taxes
and all that?"
904
00:40:56,726 --> 00:40:57,893
Said, "I'll sell it
for $100,000."
905
00:40:57,975 --> 00:40:59,975
- Because he's going
through a divorce
906
00:41:00,059 --> 00:41:03,726
and he doesn't think the ticket
907
00:41:03,809 --> 00:41:05,768
should be considered
marital property.
908
00:41:05,851 --> 00:41:07,851
But Dwight's friend,
909
00:41:07,934 --> 00:41:09,975
I didn't know this guy
from Adam.
910
00:41:10,059 --> 00:41:11,434
You know, never met him.
911
00:41:11,517 --> 00:41:15,809
But I had already gone through
a very bitter divorce myself,
912
00:41:15,893 --> 00:41:19,142
so I felt like
it was a legitimate concern.
913
00:41:19,225 --> 00:41:21,309
I mean,
he was already separated.
914
00:41:21,392 --> 00:41:25,559
It wasn't like he had this
while he was happily married.
915
00:41:31,434 --> 00:41:36,142
- Well, because...
916
00:41:36,225 --> 00:41:40,017
I didn't want him to know
I was involved in it, you know,
917
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:43,768
in something that wasn't--
that wasn't real,
918
00:41:43,851 --> 00:41:46,351
that had a tint of...
919
00:41:48,601 --> 00:41:50,100
I knew Jerry
was doing something wrong,
920
00:41:50,184 --> 00:41:52,142
and it just probably
didn't feel like
921
00:41:52,225 --> 00:41:54,601
it was the right thing to do
for me to be involved in it,
922
00:41:54,684 --> 00:41:58,517
you know, but yeah, I did it
out of expediency, maybe.
923
00:41:58,601 --> 00:42:04,476
And I just tried to protect him
from the truth of it.
924
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,726
Because, you know,
if it did backfire
925
00:42:06,809 --> 00:42:09,017
and it wasn't going--
you know, it wasn't right,
926
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,142
I mean, he didn't need to have
any knowledge of anything,
927
00:42:12,225 --> 00:42:13,434
you know?
928
00:42:13,517 --> 00:42:17,726
I mean, I took that all
on my shoulders, so...
929
00:42:17,809 --> 00:42:20,351
- He basically asked me,
you know,
930
00:42:20,434 --> 00:42:23,142
would I be interested
in buying the ticket from him
931
00:42:23,225 --> 00:42:24,351
and then redeeming it?
932
00:42:24,434 --> 00:42:27,517
I mean, everybody was
collecting the tickets.
933
00:42:27,601 --> 00:42:30,225
They're buying and selling
these tickets on the Internet,
934
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:31,768
not $1 million winners
935
00:42:31,851 --> 00:42:33,975
but certainly
prize-winning tickets
936
00:42:34,059 --> 00:42:37,559
and ones that match up
like Boardwalk and Park Place.
937
00:42:37,643 --> 00:42:38,559
I told Dwight, I said,
938
00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:42,225
"You know, I'd probably
do $100,000."
939
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:45,392
You win $50,000 a year
for 20 years.
940
00:42:45,476 --> 00:42:48,059
Course, now, I had
to pay taxes on this money,
941
00:42:48,142 --> 00:42:50,517
so I had to figure that
in my mind,
942
00:42:50,601 --> 00:42:53,225
but I felt like somewhere
along about the third year,
943
00:42:53,309 --> 00:42:55,225
I would start--
I would gain something.
944
00:42:55,309 --> 00:42:58,768
It wasn't a tremendously
immediately beneficial thing.
945
00:42:58,851 --> 00:43:00,351
It wasn't like I was just gonna
get this, you know,
946
00:43:00,434 --> 00:43:02,059
huge pile of money.
947
00:43:02,142 --> 00:43:05,517
But it was nonetheless
still a good business decision,
948
00:43:05,601 --> 00:43:08,309
a good business deal,
so I did it.
949
00:43:11,184 --> 00:43:13,351
- We were up
on Dwight's phone,
950
00:43:13,434 --> 00:43:15,100
and then we start
to figure out,
951
00:43:15,184 --> 00:43:18,392
"Okay, is there anything with
this person George Chandler?"
952
00:43:18,476 --> 00:43:19,434
"Yeah.
953
00:43:19,517 --> 00:43:20,726
There might
be something there."
954
00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:22,059
- Many times, we felt,
955
00:43:22,142 --> 00:43:23,559
"Well, how much bigger
can this get?"
956
00:43:23,643 --> 00:43:24,934
And it would get bigger.
957
00:43:25,017 --> 00:43:26,476
"How much further back
could it go?"
958
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:28,267
And it would go back further.
959
00:43:28,351 --> 00:43:31,392
I had never seen anything
like that and still haven't.
960
00:43:31,476 --> 00:43:34,726
[dramatic music]
961
00:43:34,809 --> 00:43:40,934
♪ ♪
962
00:43:41,017 --> 00:43:43,601
- What Jerry did
with other people
963
00:43:43,684 --> 00:43:46,267
far as the money goes,
I don't know.
964
00:43:46,351 --> 00:43:52,434
♪ ♪
965
00:43:52,517 --> 00:43:53,601
Best of my knowledge,
966
00:43:53,684 --> 00:43:56,309
all of mine, I believe,
were $50,000.
967
00:43:56,392 --> 00:43:59,309
I mean,
if you go down this list,
968
00:43:59,392 --> 00:44:03,768
I had one, two, three, four,
eight, nine, ten winners.
969
00:44:03,851 --> 00:44:08,643
Out of giving away $10 million,
970
00:44:08,726 --> 00:44:12,309
I made $614,000,
971
00:44:12,392 --> 00:44:14,434
so how stupid am I?
972
00:44:14,517 --> 00:44:16,059
[chuckles]
973
00:44:17,934 --> 00:44:21,476
♪ ♪
974
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:23,768
Then we come to Michael Hoover.
975
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:28,975
August 2001.
976
00:44:29,059 --> 00:44:31,684
Michael Hoover was one
of the most generous people
977
00:44:31,768 --> 00:44:32,768
you ever met,
978
00:44:32,851 --> 00:44:34,809
just a great, great friend,
979
00:44:34,893 --> 00:44:36,309
just real easygoing.
980
00:44:36,392 --> 00:44:37,809
Nothing bothered him.
981
00:44:37,893 --> 00:44:41,184
He sold a lot of drugs.
[chuckles]
982
00:44:41,267 --> 00:44:44,601
That's how we became friends.
983
00:44:44,684 --> 00:44:48,851
I used to go out to Vegas
back in the '70s,
984
00:44:48,934 --> 00:44:51,893
and Mike was a dealer.
985
00:44:51,975 --> 00:44:55,184
♪ ♪
986
00:44:55,267 --> 00:44:56,768
I called him, I says,
"You know, I got something
987
00:44:56,851 --> 00:44:58,809
that you might
be interested in."
988
00:44:58,893 --> 00:45:01,517
I picked up the ticket
from Jerry in Atlanta.
989
00:45:01,601 --> 00:45:05,142
And so I went up there
and gave him the ticket.
990
00:45:05,225 --> 00:45:08,517
♪ ♪
991
00:45:08,601 --> 00:45:09,934
He claimed the ticket,
992
00:45:10,017 --> 00:45:12,559
and they did the filming
with the commercial.
993
00:45:12,643 --> 00:45:15,225
- This is where I lost
my "People" magazine.
994
00:45:15,309 --> 00:45:16,851
Glad that after the beach,
995
00:45:16,934 --> 00:45:18,517
I stopped
and picked up another one.
996
00:45:18,601 --> 00:45:20,142
- I remember him
calling me, saying,
997
00:45:20,225 --> 00:45:22,476
"This production company
that did the commercial,"
998
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,184
he said,
"this girl is really hot.
999
00:45:24,267 --> 00:45:26,184
She probably--
I think she really liked me."
1000
00:45:26,267 --> 00:45:29,643
I said, "Oh, great."
I didn't think nothing of it.
1001
00:45:31,851 --> 00:45:33,059
- In the wire room,
1002
00:45:33,142 --> 00:45:36,100
we're listening to some of
those phone calls to Hoover.
1003
00:45:36,184 --> 00:45:38,100
And of course, Glomb
was on the other side, I think,
1004
00:45:38,184 --> 00:45:41,225
going, "Really?
What does she look like?"
1005
00:45:41,309 --> 00:45:44,559
- I think all of the winners
thought I really liked them.
1006
00:45:44,643 --> 00:45:46,559
You know,
that's the kind of person I am.
1007
00:45:46,643 --> 00:45:48,184
You know, I was interviewing
them like a friend,
1008
00:45:48,267 --> 00:45:52,142
so it was my job to make sure
that they felt comfortable.
1009
00:45:53,142 --> 00:45:54,559
[laughter]
1010
00:45:54,643 --> 00:45:57,225
- She was sick to her stomach.
That was her reaction.
1011
00:45:57,309 --> 00:45:58,726
She goes, "What?
1012
00:45:58,809 --> 00:46:02,559
How could he ever
get that vibe?"
1013
00:46:02,643 --> 00:46:05,517
- [laughs]
1014
00:46:05,601 --> 00:46:08,267
I guess she wasn't.
1015
00:46:08,351 --> 00:46:10,934
- I guess I'm a better actress
than I thought I was, you know?
1016
00:46:11,017 --> 00:46:13,017
Like...[laughs]
1017
00:46:17,893 --> 00:46:20,601
- I've been a lot of places,
met a lot of people.
1018
00:46:20,684 --> 00:46:24,392
Even been as far away
as North Carolina one time.
1019
00:46:24,476 --> 00:46:26,601
[laughs]
1020
00:46:26,684 --> 00:46:28,476
But...
1021
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,267
I've never been
to a place, you know,
1022
00:46:32,351 --> 00:46:34,309
where the people,
the hospitality,
1023
00:46:34,392 --> 00:46:35,934
the neighborliness
and all that
1024
00:46:36,017 --> 00:46:38,392
are as good as they are here.
1025
00:46:38,476 --> 00:46:44,225
♪ ♪
1026
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:46,726
You really find out
who your friends are
1027
00:46:46,809 --> 00:46:48,768
when you're down,
1028
00:46:48,851 --> 00:46:53,309
and I've never
had the opportunity
1029
00:46:53,392 --> 00:46:56,434
with some of those people
to give them the entire story.
1030
00:46:56,517 --> 00:46:59,434
[indistinct country music
playing]
1031
00:46:59,517 --> 00:47:03,142
♪ ♪
1032
00:47:03,225 --> 00:47:06,100
- Good job, Gary!
- Nice job, Gary, nice job.
1033
00:47:06,184 --> 00:47:10,059
- To tell them exactly
why I'm innocent.
1034
00:47:12,351 --> 00:47:16,017
This is the McDonald's
where it all happened.
1035
00:47:17,392 --> 00:47:19,809
There was a press conference
and a party,
1036
00:47:19,893 --> 00:47:22,434
and real Ronald McDonald
was here.
1037
00:47:26,893 --> 00:47:29,476
It was kind of surreal.
1038
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,309
- Said, "Mama,
I won $1 million."
1039
00:47:31,392 --> 00:47:33,643
I said,
"Pooey, George. Pooey."
1040
00:47:33,726 --> 00:47:34,893
He said, "Mama, it's real."
1041
00:47:34,975 --> 00:47:36,517
- I didn't think
he was serious.
1042
00:47:36,601 --> 00:47:38,225
I was like...
1043
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:39,684
I was like,
1044
00:47:39,768 --> 00:47:41,225
"You're not serious."
1045
00:47:41,309 --> 00:47:43,768
- As a single father
to eight-year-old Russell,
1046
00:47:43,851 --> 00:47:45,517
George Chandler says
he'll use his winnings
1047
00:47:45,601 --> 00:47:47,351
to help raise his son.
1048
00:47:47,434 --> 00:47:50,809
He'll get $50,000 a year
for the next 20 years.
1049
00:47:50,893 --> 00:47:52,851
- It wasn't
an immediate thing.
1050
00:47:52,934 --> 00:47:56,476
Ultimately it done
a lot more harm than good.
1051
00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:59,017
I already run a business
in town,
1052
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,434
and I was surrounded
by this notion
1053
00:48:01,517 --> 00:48:03,476
that I was a millionaire now.
1054
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:06,184
I didn't need to work.
1055
00:48:06,267 --> 00:48:08,517
I didn't need
any new customers.
1056
00:48:08,601 --> 00:48:12,225
I mean, I had to put out
$100,000 of my own money,
1057
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:15,017
you know, for this thing.
1058
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,893
And I had
no question whatsoever
1059
00:48:18,975 --> 00:48:22,559
about the authenticity
or legitimacy of the ticket
1060
00:48:22,643 --> 00:48:24,017
or the origination of it.
1061
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:25,684
You know,
nothing ever occurred to me.
1062
00:48:25,768 --> 00:48:28,392
We're talking
about Dwight Baker.
1063
00:48:28,476 --> 00:48:31,059
- I didn't take any cut
out of the money, okay?
1064
00:48:31,142 --> 00:48:32,768
It was all Jerry's.
1065
00:48:32,851 --> 00:48:34,225
I told him, I said,
"George, listen."
1066
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:36,559
I said, "You just give me
a Navigator and a laptop
1067
00:48:36,643 --> 00:48:38,225
and we'll be happy,"
you know?
1068
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:40,392
Didn't want George
to think bad of me...
1069
00:48:40,476 --> 00:48:41,726
[laughs]
1070
00:48:41,809 --> 00:48:43,100
For--
[chuckles]
1071
00:48:43,184 --> 00:48:45,517
For actually having
a little larceny in my heart,
1072
00:48:45,601 --> 00:48:47,017
you know?
1073
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,434
I didn't want a whole lot.
1074
00:48:48,517 --> 00:48:50,851
I just wanted a little laptop
and a Navigator.
1075
00:48:50,934 --> 00:48:52,434
[chuckles]
1076
00:48:53,643 --> 00:48:57,267
Then I went to Ronnie Hughey
and offered it to him.
1077
00:48:57,351 --> 00:49:00,851
Well, that's how my greed
kicked in.
1078
00:49:02,184 --> 00:49:04,267
Ronnie was just a high roller.
1079
00:49:04,351 --> 00:49:06,768
And Ronnie was going through
a divorce, and he said,
1080
00:49:06,851 --> 00:49:08,392
"I'll take two
or three of those."
1081
00:49:08,476 --> 00:49:10,142
[laughs]
1082
00:49:10,225 --> 00:49:13,100
♪ ♪
1083
00:49:13,184 --> 00:49:16,768
That was probably the real...
1084
00:49:17,392 --> 00:49:19,934
Where I really stepped over
the boundary
1085
00:49:20,017 --> 00:49:21,934
was when Ronnie said,
you know,
1086
00:49:22,017 --> 00:49:24,768
"I'll take one or two
or three of them."
1087
00:49:24,851 --> 00:49:28,100
And I knew he could.
[chuckles]
1088
00:49:28,184 --> 00:49:30,726
Oh, and I remember Jerry
telling me, he said,
1089
00:49:30,809 --> 00:49:33,100
"You're getting
a little greedy, ain't you?
1090
00:49:33,184 --> 00:49:34,476
Yeah.
1091
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,100
♪ ♪
1092
00:49:37,184 --> 00:49:39,893
Each time
was a little different.
1093
00:49:44,351 --> 00:49:47,476
Jerry, he brought me
fries and a drink
1094
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:50,100
and it had the game pieces
on it, you know?
1095
00:49:50,184 --> 00:49:52,309
And I'd pay him
in a brown McDonald's bag,
1096
00:49:52,392 --> 00:49:56,309
had just the cash, give him
the McDonald's bag money.
1097
00:49:56,392 --> 00:50:01,017
♪ ♪
1098
00:50:05,934 --> 00:50:07,517
- Never asked him.
1099
00:50:07,601 --> 00:50:09,975
You know,
Jerry used to say all the time,
1100
00:50:10,059 --> 00:50:11,934
"This is gonna be
the last one.
1101
00:50:12,017 --> 00:50:14,434
This is gonna be
the last one."
1102
00:50:14,517 --> 00:50:15,851
And then one time, he said,
1103
00:50:15,934 --> 00:50:19,142
"There's gonna be
a $5 million prize
1104
00:50:19,225 --> 00:50:20,434
"that they're gonna give.
1105
00:50:20,517 --> 00:50:23,351
"You take that one,"
1106
00:50:23,434 --> 00:50:25,684
and I don't know
how we were gonna split it,
1107
00:50:25,768 --> 00:50:27,392
but he said, "Then that's it.
1108
00:50:27,476 --> 00:50:30,684
We'll ride into the sunset
and forget it."
1109
00:50:30,768 --> 00:50:33,434
You know, so...
1110
00:50:34,768 --> 00:50:39,017
- Jerry was--he was
very private, very secretive.
1111
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:43,267
I mean, he never talked about
anything with anybody else.
1112
00:50:44,934 --> 00:50:47,684
I knew he could sell me
game pieces,
1113
00:50:47,768 --> 00:50:50,559
but I didn't know
to what degree.
1114
00:50:52,601 --> 00:50:54,851
Jerry told me,
he said, "Listen,
1115
00:50:54,934 --> 00:50:57,184
"there was a $1/2 million
game piece
1116
00:50:57,267 --> 00:51:01,517
where McDonald's issued
one $500,000 check, cash."
1117
00:51:01,601 --> 00:51:04,893
You wouldn't have
to wait $50,000 a year.
1118
00:51:04,975 --> 00:51:06,601
And I wanted it.
1119
00:51:06,684 --> 00:51:08,434
And so...
1120
00:51:08,517 --> 00:51:12,768
I made arrangements
with my wife's sister, Brenda,
1121
00:51:12,851 --> 00:51:18,267
and I said, "Cash that check,
and we'll split it."
1122
00:51:18,351 --> 00:51:20,392
I thought it would've been
a tough sell, you know?
1123
00:51:20,476 --> 00:51:24,476
But...it wasn't.
1124
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,142
We created an address for her
1125
00:51:27,225 --> 00:51:30,517
in Asheville, North Carolina.
1126
00:51:30,601 --> 00:51:32,601
She turned in the game piece.
1127
00:51:32,684 --> 00:51:36,768
We didn't talk for a while,
but time had lapsed.
1128
00:51:36,851 --> 00:51:41,184
There was no reason for her
to have not
1129
00:51:41,267 --> 00:51:43,434
been paid on the game piece.
1130
00:51:43,517 --> 00:51:45,309
I said, "I'm gonna go up
to Asheville
1131
00:51:45,392 --> 00:51:47,684
and see what's going on."
1132
00:51:47,768 --> 00:51:50,225
And I went up there, and...
1133
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:52,476
the damn FedEx thing
had been opened
1134
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:54,768
and fallen on the floor,
and...
1135
00:51:54,851 --> 00:51:57,809
I said,
"She's got the damn money."
1136
00:51:57,893 --> 00:52:01,017
[tense music]
1137
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,601
Brenda decided that she
was gonna keep all the money,
1138
00:52:04,684 --> 00:52:06,392
run with the money.
1139
00:52:06,476 --> 00:52:08,559
That scared the shit
out of me
1140
00:52:08,643 --> 00:52:12,267
because I knew Jerry
wouldn't be very damn happy.
1141
00:52:12,351 --> 00:52:14,643
Jerry told me
if there's a problem,
1142
00:52:14,726 --> 00:52:17,975
I'd get a visit
from his cousin Guido.
1143
00:52:18,059 --> 00:52:20,142
And I took that
pretty serious.
1144
00:52:20,225 --> 00:52:22,392
♪ ♪
1145
00:52:22,476 --> 00:52:24,142
Went to my wife, and I said,
1146
00:52:24,225 --> 00:52:26,309
"She's running
with the money."
1147
00:52:26,392 --> 00:52:28,351
And that's what really
hooked her in.
1148
00:52:28,434 --> 00:52:30,476
That's where
she got a problem,
1149
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,309
'cause she looked at it
as her money.
1150
00:52:33,392 --> 00:52:34,601
[engine turning over]
1151
00:52:38,434 --> 00:52:39,934
- Yeah.
1152
00:52:40,017 --> 00:52:42,934
[indistinct arguing]
1153
00:52:43,017 --> 00:52:45,476
♪ ♪
1154
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:50,601
And...my wife could not
stay off the telephone.
1155
00:52:50,684 --> 00:52:54,434
♪ ♪
1156
00:52:54,517 --> 00:52:58,142
- Dwight Baker made
a phone call to Brenda Phenis
1157
00:52:58,225 --> 00:53:01,643
and for whatever reason didn't
quite disconnect the phone...
1158
00:53:01,726 --> 00:53:02,643
[chuckles]
1159
00:53:02,726 --> 00:53:05,184
Which we were
still monitoring.
1160
00:53:05,267 --> 00:53:09,392
And it was like
having a bug in their car.
1161
00:53:09,476 --> 00:53:12,017
- So inside the wire room,
we're hearing
1162
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:15,184
how Brenda Phenis
was running around
1163
00:53:15,267 --> 00:53:18,142
the Indianapolis Airport
1164
00:53:18,225 --> 00:53:20,851
and Dwight was looking
to bury her somewhere.
1165
00:53:20,934 --> 00:53:22,434
- They're saying, you know,
1166
00:53:22,517 --> 00:53:24,392
he's following her
to the airport.
1167
00:53:24,476 --> 00:53:26,059
He says he's gonna kill her.
1168
00:53:26,142 --> 00:53:28,225
There was a lot of concern
on that.
1169
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:29,476
- What are we gonna do
1170
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:32,100
if they are in fact
really gonna harm her?
1171
00:53:32,184 --> 00:53:34,726
We obviously have
to intervene,
1172
00:53:34,809 --> 00:53:37,184
but that would have
serious consequences
1173
00:53:37,267 --> 00:53:38,684
for the investigation.
1174
00:53:38,768 --> 00:53:42,643
One little slipup, you know,
could shut it down.
1175
00:53:42,726 --> 00:53:45,643
[suspenseful music]
1176
00:53:45,726 --> 00:53:46,934
♪ ♪
1177
00:53:47,017 --> 00:53:52,142
- To me, Dwight was a man
of integrity and character.
1178
00:53:52,225 --> 00:53:54,017
It just did not occur to me
1179
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:55,934
that he would do
something like that.
1180
00:53:56,017 --> 00:53:58,351
♪ ♪
1181
00:53:58,434 --> 00:54:01,809
If you can't be trusted,
what do you have?
1182
00:54:03,476 --> 00:54:05,392
- Okay, George.
1183
00:54:05,476 --> 00:54:07,809
[crowd shouting "George!"]
1184
00:54:07,893 --> 00:54:10,017
- Let's have fun, y'all.
[country music playing]
1185
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:13,225
- ♪ She got runned over
by a damn ♪
1186
00:54:13,309 --> 00:54:16,975
[crowd singing along]
- Yeah, yeah, yeah!
1187
00:54:17,059 --> 00:54:20,392
♪ And so I'll hang around ♪
1188
00:54:20,476 --> 00:54:24,184
♪ As long as you will let me ♪
1189
00:54:24,267 --> 00:54:25,392
♪ ♪
1190
00:54:25,476 --> 00:54:26,726
Oh, that sounds good.
1191
00:54:26,809 --> 00:54:30,225
♪ And I never minded ♪
1192
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:33,975
♪ Standing in the rain ♪
1193
00:54:34,059 --> 00:54:36,267
♪ No, oh, yeah ♪
1194
00:54:36,351 --> 00:54:39,059
- Because it's an airport,
everything is monitored live.
1195
00:54:39,142 --> 00:54:40,601
It's a public place,
1196
00:54:40,684 --> 00:54:43,434
and we had people on scene
there watching the cameras,
1197
00:54:43,517 --> 00:54:45,225
agents who just could blend in
1198
00:54:45,309 --> 00:54:49,100
in the crowd at the airport,
ready to take action.
1199
00:54:49,184 --> 00:54:52,142
[suspenseful music]
1200
00:54:52,225 --> 00:54:59,184
♪ ♪
1201
00:55:14,351 --> 00:55:17,809
You know, in a lot of cases,
really bad things happen.
1202
00:55:17,893 --> 00:55:20,476
Things go wrong.
They always do.
1203
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:21,893
[country music]
1204
00:55:21,975 --> 00:55:26,434
- ♪ Called me by my name ♪
1205
00:55:26,517 --> 00:55:30,351
♪ Whoo! ♪
1206
00:55:30,434 --> 00:55:32,267
[laughs]
1207
00:55:33,893 --> 00:55:36,851
[choir humming
"America the Beautiful"]
1208
00:55:36,934 --> 00:55:43,893
♪ ♪
1209
00:56:29,267 --> 00:56:31,975
I didn't have a clue
that they were onto this case.
1210
00:56:32,225 --> 00:56:33,017
Nothing.
1211
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:34,434
♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYS) ♪
1212
00:56:34,517 --> 00:56:36,017
CHRIS GRAHAM:
The initial stage
1213
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:38,851
was the indictment
of the first eight.
1214
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:42,768
The rest were scheduled
to all go down at the same time.
1215
00:56:43,142 --> 00:56:45,643
I'm gonna get my guy
before anybody else.
1216
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:48,476
Then we mobilized quick.
1217
00:56:48,768 --> 00:56:50,225
Then I look out the door
and see FBI.
1218
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:51,975
DOUG MATHEWS:
He was behind a fortress.
1219
00:56:52,059 --> 00:56:54,434
"Oh, God. I'm gonna ram
this car through the--
1220
00:56:54,517 --> 00:56:55,851
(LAUGHS)
The front gate.
1221
00:56:56,225 --> 00:56:59,684
I ran and I kicked
the door open.
1222
00:56:59,768 --> 00:57:01,392
(POLICE SIRENS WAILING)
1223
00:57:01,476 --> 00:57:04,142
DOUG: If anybody ever knew
how close this was just to...
1224
00:57:05,643 --> 00:57:06,434
blowing up.
1225
00:57:06,517 --> 00:57:08,100
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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