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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,017 --> 00:00:07,017 CHRIS GRAHAM: Things were moving fast. 2 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:09,267 How is Jerry Jacobson doing this? 3 00:00:09,351 --> 00:00:11,893 That was this nagging question mark. 4 00:00:12,225 --> 00:00:13,184 (CASH REGISTER DINGS) 5 00:00:13,434 --> 00:00:15,893 What we had to vet out is: Who was helping Jerry? 6 00:00:16,184 --> 00:00:18,017 FRANK COLOMBO: Uncle Jerry was getting the tickets 7 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:20,184 and selling them to my brother, 8 00:00:20,267 --> 00:00:22,893 and then my brother would sell them to other people. 9 00:00:22,975 --> 00:00:25,184 He took this little, small operation, 10 00:00:25,267 --> 00:00:26,142 and he made it huge. 11 00:00:26,517 --> 00:00:29,768 Before my husband was working the Monopoly fraud game, 12 00:00:29,851 --> 00:00:32,434 we had my son, Francesco Colombo. 13 00:00:32,517 --> 00:00:34,267 Even though I adored my husband, 14 00:00:34,351 --> 00:00:36,392 I found out he had a mistress on the side. 15 00:00:36,726 --> 00:00:38,142 I was just so mad, 16 00:00:38,225 --> 00:00:40,517 so I call Uncle Jerry and he says, 17 00:00:40,601 --> 00:00:43,559 "You married the wrong guy." He asked me to marry him. 18 00:00:44,184 --> 00:00:47,059 The next day, Jerry's in the passenger seat, 19 00:00:47,142 --> 00:00:50,517 I'm driving, Frankie's crying, we took him out of his car seat, 20 00:00:50,601 --> 00:00:51,517 laid him down, 21 00:00:51,601 --> 00:00:54,184 and a little teardrop came down my face. 22 00:00:54,267 --> 00:00:56,351 I thought, "I'm never gonna get out of this." 23 00:00:56,434 --> 00:00:58,643 -(TRUCK HORN BLOWS) -(CAR COLLISION) 24 00:01:03,142 --> 00:01:06,142 [bright tone] 25 00:01:19,684 --> 00:01:22,934 - I don't know how to describe Jerry Jacobson. 26 00:01:24,267 --> 00:01:27,059 Jerry had a way about him. 27 00:01:27,142 --> 00:01:29,100 They're either gonna love him, or they're gonna hate him. 28 00:01:29,184 --> 00:01:30,975 There's no in-between. 29 00:01:32,934 --> 00:01:36,100 He could snap in a millisecond 30 00:01:36,184 --> 00:01:38,934 and you don't even know why he snapped. 31 00:01:39,851 --> 00:01:42,934 My kids did not get along with him. 32 00:01:43,017 --> 00:01:46,726 He laid hands on 'em more times than I knew about. 33 00:01:46,809 --> 00:01:48,851 [dramatic music] 34 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:52,434 - Jerry Jacobson was actually my stepfather. 35 00:01:52,517 --> 00:01:54,768 You know, he was prone to have a short, short, fuse 36 00:01:54,851 --> 00:01:57,267 and a pretty bad temper. 37 00:01:57,351 --> 00:01:59,059 ♪ ♪ 38 00:01:59,142 --> 00:02:01,601 The most vivid memory I have: we were in the basement. 39 00:02:01,684 --> 00:02:03,934 I can't remember what the issue was. 40 00:02:04,017 --> 00:02:06,768 Seemed insignificant to me at the time. 41 00:02:06,851 --> 00:02:10,267 And Jerry just kind of lost it. 42 00:02:10,351 --> 00:02:14,100 He picked my brother up by the head and was, like, 43 00:02:14,184 --> 00:02:15,893 bouncing his head off the wall. 44 00:02:15,975 --> 00:02:18,309 And I was in the room just... 45 00:02:18,392 --> 00:02:20,768 kind of more scared and hoping it didn't turn towards me 46 00:02:20,851 --> 00:02:23,726 'cause I didn't understand it at the time. 47 00:02:23,809 --> 00:02:25,975 - I stepped in between them 48 00:02:26,059 --> 00:02:28,267 and I told Michael, my oldest one, 49 00:02:28,351 --> 00:02:30,893 to run out the front door. 50 00:02:31,934 --> 00:02:34,142 And I remember yelling out the front window, 51 00:02:34,225 --> 00:02:36,309 "Just run, Michael, run." 52 00:02:36,392 --> 00:02:40,601 And Michael was, like, nine at the time. 53 00:02:40,684 --> 00:02:43,059 That was the reason we split up. 54 00:02:43,142 --> 00:02:45,184 [crickets chirping] 55 00:02:45,267 --> 00:02:47,975 We didn't communicate after we split up. 56 00:02:48,059 --> 00:02:49,351 I was still a cop, 57 00:02:49,434 --> 00:02:52,684 but he would show up on my police calls. 58 00:02:52,768 --> 00:02:57,017 All of a sudden I looked round and there he is. 59 00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:01,100 Nobody knew how he knew where my police calls were. 60 00:03:01,184 --> 00:03:03,017 He was just there. 61 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:07,225 [ominous music] 62 00:03:07,309 --> 00:03:11,184 He made people afraid of him. 63 00:03:11,267 --> 00:03:14,559 He had a .45, 'cause that's what we carried in Hollywood, 64 00:03:14,643 --> 00:03:16,351 and was trading gun parts. 65 00:03:16,434 --> 00:03:18,476 And he told me this himself: 66 00:03:18,559 --> 00:03:20,392 because he was gonna shoot me 67 00:03:20,476 --> 00:03:22,684 and then put his gun back together 68 00:03:22,768 --> 00:03:25,017 so that if they ran ballistics on it, 69 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,059 it wouldn't show that the bullet came from that gun. 70 00:03:28,142 --> 00:03:30,517 ♪ ♪ 71 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:32,476 - He's a bad man, okay? 72 00:03:32,559 --> 00:03:36,017 And I knew what he had my husband do. 73 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:38,851 My husband pointed a shotgun 74 00:03:38,934 --> 00:03:40,517 at somebody's head 75 00:03:40,601 --> 00:03:43,351 by the order of Jerome Jacobson 76 00:03:43,434 --> 00:03:44,851 to collect some money, 77 00:03:44,934 --> 00:03:47,768 and that's not the first time. 78 00:03:47,851 --> 00:03:51,517 He is not some sweet little old man sick. 79 00:03:51,601 --> 00:03:53,934 He's a fricking gangster. 80 00:03:54,017 --> 00:03:56,601 ♪ ♪ 81 00:03:56,684 --> 00:03:58,017 Gangster. 82 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:01,559 And I'm not afraid if he's got a bullet with my name on it. 83 00:04:01,643 --> 00:04:03,768 We all gotta go sometime. 84 00:04:03,851 --> 00:04:05,184 [crashing, glass shattering] 85 00:04:05,267 --> 00:04:09,142 ♪ ♪ 86 00:04:09,225 --> 00:04:10,893 - There was a rumor going around 87 00:04:10,975 --> 00:04:13,893 that it could've been a possible hit 88 00:04:13,975 --> 00:04:16,017 to get my brother out of the situation. 89 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:18,392 - Could it have been? - I don't know. 90 00:04:18,476 --> 00:04:21,392 [dramatic music] 91 00:04:21,476 --> 00:04:28,517 ♪ ♪ 92 00:05:11,059 --> 00:05:12,851 [siren wailing] 93 00:05:12,934 --> 00:05:14,309 [indistinct police radio chatter] 94 00:05:14,392 --> 00:05:17,059 - I was crushed against the wall, 95 00:05:17,142 --> 00:05:19,476 covered in blood. 96 00:05:19,559 --> 00:05:21,142 I remember looking this way 97 00:05:21,225 --> 00:05:24,726 and there was a policeman and a fireman right there. 98 00:05:27,017 --> 00:05:31,017 And I said, "Give me Frankie, my son." 99 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:35,100 Jerry had just taken Frankie out of the car seat 100 00:05:35,184 --> 00:05:37,142 so he could lay down to take a nap 101 00:05:37,225 --> 00:05:39,184 because he was getting cranky. 102 00:05:39,267 --> 00:05:42,142 And they said, "Mrs. Colombo, stay still. 103 00:05:42,225 --> 00:05:44,476 We gotta cut you out with the Jaws of Life." 104 00:05:44,559 --> 00:05:47,142 I said, "That's my son." 105 00:05:47,225 --> 00:05:50,434 [indistinct police radio chatter] 106 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:53,017 And soon as they cut me out and took me out, 107 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:54,851 the pain just went... [whooshes] 108 00:05:54,934 --> 00:05:59,017 All through my body, and I just screamed. 109 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:02,351 And I could look over, and I saw my son 110 00:06:02,434 --> 00:06:05,768 sucking a lollipop, so I knew he was okay. 111 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:12,142 Jerry actually crawled out of the car 112 00:06:12,225 --> 00:06:14,100 with no blood on him. 113 00:06:17,267 --> 00:06:19,851 - The telephone rings. "Oh, hey, Jerry. How are you?" 114 00:06:19,934 --> 00:06:23,017 "Oh, I'm okay. We got into an accident. 115 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:25,059 We're all being airlifted to the hospital." 116 00:06:25,142 --> 00:06:26,309 I said, "Are you sure you're all right?" 117 00:06:26,392 --> 00:06:27,684 He said, "Yeah, I'm fine," 118 00:06:27,768 --> 00:06:30,851 like nothing at all was wrong. 119 00:06:30,934 --> 00:06:32,309 - I got the call at work 120 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:33,893 and raced up there to the hospital. 121 00:06:33,975 --> 00:06:35,601 He was in ICU, 122 00:06:35,684 --> 00:06:37,392 and they had him hooked up to all these machines. 123 00:06:37,476 --> 00:06:39,726 And Robin had, I think, 124 00:06:39,809 --> 00:06:42,267 five to six stitches on top of her head. 125 00:06:42,351 --> 00:06:43,267 - She had cut her head. 126 00:06:43,351 --> 00:06:45,100 Frankie's arm was broken 127 00:06:45,184 --> 00:06:46,893 and he had, I think, a bump on his nose. 128 00:06:46,975 --> 00:06:48,142 - Yeah, and that was it. 129 00:06:48,225 --> 00:06:50,684 Most of the force of the truck hit the passenger door, 130 00:06:50,768 --> 00:06:53,517 but they seemed like he was gonna be okay, 131 00:06:53,601 --> 00:06:57,059 which was kind of odd because he's in ICU. 132 00:06:57,142 --> 00:06:59,184 [indistinct chatter] 133 00:06:59,267 --> 00:07:01,476 My brother said that he had-- I think it was 134 00:07:01,559 --> 00:07:03,934 $15,000 to $20,000 in the glove box 135 00:07:04,017 --> 00:07:08,100 and then a couple of hundred thousand dollars in a suitcase 136 00:07:08,184 --> 00:07:10,768 in Robin's mom and dad's home in Jacksonville 137 00:07:10,851 --> 00:07:12,059 and told me to take care of this one, 138 00:07:12,142 --> 00:07:13,059 take care of that one. 139 00:07:13,142 --> 00:07:15,267 So we went to the junkyard, 140 00:07:15,351 --> 00:07:17,267 and there was nothing in there. 141 00:07:17,351 --> 00:07:19,100 Everything was gone. 142 00:07:19,184 --> 00:07:23,100 And the money in the house... 143 00:07:23,184 --> 00:07:24,684 disappeared. 144 00:07:24,768 --> 00:07:26,601 Everyone claims that it was never there. 145 00:07:26,684 --> 00:07:29,267 Jerry would not tell me that he had money at the house 146 00:07:29,351 --> 00:07:30,975 if he didn't have money at the house. 147 00:07:31,059 --> 00:07:35,267 So then I took it upon myself to go to his house. 148 00:07:35,351 --> 00:07:37,601 - He made a little detour without anyone knowing. 149 00:07:37,684 --> 00:07:39,142 - I made a little detour without anyone knowing, 150 00:07:39,225 --> 00:07:42,975 and I made some things disappear, 151 00:07:43,059 --> 00:07:48,184 because I knew things were getting really ugly. 152 00:07:48,267 --> 00:07:51,100 I got a couple of items out of his freezer. 153 00:07:51,184 --> 00:07:54,559 He had about four or five tickets. 154 00:07:54,643 --> 00:07:57,351 Not sure if Robin knew they were in there or not, 155 00:07:57,434 --> 00:08:00,975 but I didn't want Robin to have access to those tickets. 156 00:08:01,059 --> 00:08:04,434 I was not sure if the accident was an accident. 157 00:08:04,517 --> 00:08:06,851 Was it a setup? We didn't know. 158 00:08:06,934 --> 00:08:10,017 ♪ ♪ 159 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:13,601 - It could've been a hit. 160 00:08:13,684 --> 00:08:15,643 I really believe that. 161 00:08:15,726 --> 00:08:18,392 I don't have any proof of that, 162 00:08:18,476 --> 00:08:20,476 but I'm thinking something went wrong. 163 00:08:20,559 --> 00:08:23,601 And I was feeling it and I got that impression. 164 00:08:23,684 --> 00:08:27,309 Because Jerry was getting a little... 165 00:08:27,392 --> 00:08:32,309 on edge 'cause the pressure was on him from someone, 166 00:08:32,392 --> 00:08:33,434 you know what I mean? 167 00:08:33,517 --> 00:08:37,017 Something was different. 168 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:40,643 [monitor beeping] 169 00:08:40,726 --> 00:08:43,684 - Being a big guy, when they put him in the ICU, 170 00:08:43,768 --> 00:08:46,392 they didn't realize he had internal damage, 171 00:08:46,476 --> 00:08:48,476 so they were treating him for his broken leg 172 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,726 and they didn't catch the internal damage that he had. 173 00:08:50,809 --> 00:08:53,059 [monitors beeping] 174 00:08:53,142 --> 00:08:54,517 And by the time they caught it, 175 00:08:54,601 --> 00:08:56,517 they realized his lung had collapsed, 176 00:08:56,601 --> 00:08:58,351 his ribs were broken. 177 00:08:58,434 --> 00:09:00,975 - Up to that time, it was joking. 178 00:09:01,059 --> 00:09:02,017 It was lighthearted. 179 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,476 He did not seem like he was in shock. 180 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,392 Even till this day, I'm just astonished-- 181 00:09:07,476 --> 00:09:10,684 astonished that the man was actively dying. 182 00:09:10,768 --> 00:09:12,851 [ventilator hissing] 183 00:09:12,934 --> 00:09:15,851 - He was in and out of consciousness. 184 00:09:15,934 --> 00:09:18,017 He had a ventilator, so he wasn't able to talk. 185 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:20,100 They had him on all these different machines. 186 00:09:20,184 --> 00:09:23,726 Robin literally came a couple of times to visit, 187 00:09:23,809 --> 00:09:25,434 and that was pretty much it. 188 00:09:25,517 --> 00:09:28,684 The only thing Robin was always worried about was, 189 00:09:28,768 --> 00:09:31,225 "I gotta get to the house. I gotta get to the house." 190 00:09:31,309 --> 00:09:33,225 My sister-in-law 191 00:09:33,309 --> 00:09:35,601 didn't give a rat's ass about my brother 192 00:09:35,684 --> 00:09:37,726 while he was in the hospital. 193 00:09:37,809 --> 00:09:40,768 [melancholic music] 194 00:09:40,851 --> 00:09:42,392 ♪ ♪ 195 00:09:42,476 --> 00:09:44,559 - One of the reasons why Robin didn't come around, though, 196 00:09:44,643 --> 00:09:47,893 also, there was a fight. 197 00:09:47,975 --> 00:09:51,059 Jerry's mother basically, you know, 198 00:09:51,142 --> 00:09:52,851 "You did this on purpose. You did this." 199 00:09:52,934 --> 00:09:54,934 And her swearing up and down, "I didn't do it on purpose. 200 00:09:55,017 --> 00:09:56,893 I didn't set this up. I didn't do this." 201 00:09:56,975 --> 00:09:59,059 - If it was in fact and it was-- 202 00:09:59,142 --> 00:10:00,893 if there was any proof 203 00:10:00,975 --> 00:10:02,975 that she was involved with that... 204 00:10:03,059 --> 00:10:04,100 - She wouldn't be here right now. 205 00:10:04,184 --> 00:10:05,309 - I can guarantee you she wouldn't be here right now. 206 00:10:05,392 --> 00:10:06,643 - I will guarantee you. 207 00:10:06,726 --> 00:10:09,768 ♪ ♪ 208 00:10:09,851 --> 00:10:12,392 - The last few days, it was me, my brother, 209 00:10:12,476 --> 00:10:14,059 my mom and dad. 210 00:10:14,142 --> 00:10:17,643 And the last words that he said, 211 00:10:17,726 --> 00:10:20,142 he mouthed them to my mom: 212 00:10:20,225 --> 00:10:22,893 "Happy Mother's Day," 'cause it was Mother's Day. 213 00:10:22,975 --> 00:10:25,934 ♪ ♪ 214 00:10:26,017 --> 00:10:28,351 And once that happened, 215 00:10:28,434 --> 00:10:30,684 his body just started shutting down little by little. 216 00:10:30,768 --> 00:10:32,643 There was nothing anyone could do. 217 00:10:32,726 --> 00:10:35,225 And the last couple of hours, 218 00:10:35,309 --> 00:10:38,434 everyone was in the waiting room. 219 00:10:38,517 --> 00:10:41,643 But I was like, "I'm not gonna leave my brother's side 220 00:10:41,726 --> 00:10:44,351 and leave him in the room by himself." 221 00:10:44,434 --> 00:10:46,893 So I stood there. I sat next to him. 222 00:10:46,975 --> 00:10:48,434 I kept talking to him, 223 00:10:48,517 --> 00:10:50,142 kept talking to him. 224 00:10:50,225 --> 00:10:51,309 Till this day, I mean, 225 00:10:51,392 --> 00:10:54,434 I don't know if he heard me or not, 226 00:10:54,517 --> 00:10:58,142 but I held his hand, and I stayed there 227 00:10:58,225 --> 00:11:00,434 until the... 228 00:11:00,517 --> 00:11:04,142 until the last monitor went down. 229 00:11:04,225 --> 00:11:06,309 And... 230 00:11:06,392 --> 00:11:07,851 till this day, I don't regret it, 231 00:11:07,934 --> 00:11:11,100 because he didn't die by himself. 232 00:11:11,184 --> 00:11:12,809 I made sure that I was there. 233 00:11:12,893 --> 00:11:15,225 I'm sorry. [sniffles] 234 00:11:17,975 --> 00:11:21,476 [sniffles] I'm sorry. 235 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,017 [exhales deeply and sniffles] 236 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:25,809 Usually I don't cry. 237 00:11:25,893 --> 00:11:27,184 Just... 238 00:11:27,267 --> 00:11:30,142 I couldn't let him sit there by himself. 239 00:11:30,225 --> 00:11:33,434 I couldn't do it, so I stayed there with him. 240 00:11:33,517 --> 00:11:35,351 Hardest thing I've ever done in my life 241 00:11:35,434 --> 00:11:37,434 but the best thing I've ever done in my life. 242 00:11:41,643 --> 00:11:44,017 He always wanted his son, Francesco, 243 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:46,975 to be in karate and this and that 244 00:11:47,059 --> 00:11:48,476 and all this kind of stuff. 245 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,351 And I promised him I was gonna help take care of him. 246 00:11:50,434 --> 00:11:52,142 I said, "I'm gonna look over your son. 247 00:11:52,225 --> 00:11:54,851 I'm gonna make sure he grows up to be a good kid." 248 00:11:54,934 --> 00:11:58,851 And I promised him that he'd be okay. 249 00:11:58,934 --> 00:12:00,975 I said, you know, "It's okay," you know, 250 00:12:01,059 --> 00:12:03,059 "I'll take care of him. I'll watch over him." 251 00:12:03,142 --> 00:12:06,476 And if he was hearing me, I just wanted him to know that 252 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,267 the one thing that he really cared about was his son. 253 00:12:10,351 --> 00:12:12,768 Uh... 254 00:12:12,851 --> 00:12:13,893 and that was it. 255 00:12:13,975 --> 00:12:15,975 I just wanted to be sure that he knew. 256 00:12:17,851 --> 00:12:21,559 ♪ ♪ 257 00:12:21,643 --> 00:12:23,100 [sniffles] 258 00:12:23,184 --> 00:12:30,059 ♪ ♪ 259 00:12:30,142 --> 00:12:33,184 - His heart stopped 260 00:12:33,267 --> 00:12:37,934 because he didn't react to the medication. 261 00:12:39,809 --> 00:12:42,059 - No, I wasn't actually at the hospital 262 00:12:42,142 --> 00:12:45,559 because I was... 263 00:12:45,643 --> 00:12:48,142 I really didn't think he was gonna die. 264 00:12:48,225 --> 00:12:50,476 You don't think it. 265 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,768 It was early in the morning. 266 00:12:52,851 --> 00:12:55,100 My mother got the call, 267 00:12:55,184 --> 00:12:58,476 and she told me, and I just lost it. 268 00:13:00,142 --> 00:13:01,517 Yeah. 269 00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:05,559 It was so horrific. 270 00:13:05,643 --> 00:13:09,267 ♪ ♪ 271 00:13:09,351 --> 00:13:12,267 [sniffles] And that was that. 272 00:13:12,351 --> 00:13:17,934 So I had the guilt of driving, the guilt of losing my husband 273 00:13:18,017 --> 00:13:19,975 and my son losing his father. 274 00:13:20,059 --> 00:13:22,225 ♪ ♪ 275 00:13:22,309 --> 00:13:24,476 It was just too much to bear. 276 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,517 ♪ ♪ 277 00:13:33,059 --> 00:13:36,059 - My name is Francesco Gennaro Colombo, 278 00:13:36,142 --> 00:13:40,309 named after Gennaro Colombo, and that was my dad, Jerry, 279 00:13:40,392 --> 00:13:42,809 who, you know, is being-- 280 00:13:42,893 --> 00:13:44,726 everybody's kind of talking about him now, 281 00:13:44,809 --> 00:13:46,184 you know, 'cause in the '90s, 282 00:13:46,267 --> 00:13:50,434 he's one of the guys who ran the McDonald's Monopoly scam. 283 00:13:50,517 --> 00:13:51,975 So... 284 00:13:52,059 --> 00:13:53,309 I'm his son. [chuckles] 285 00:13:53,392 --> 00:13:54,309 - Give Daddy a punch. 286 00:13:54,392 --> 00:13:56,643 Give Daddy a karate kick. 287 00:13:56,726 --> 00:13:57,643 - Hiyah! 288 00:13:57,726 --> 00:13:59,934 - Ow! 289 00:14:00,017 --> 00:14:02,100 - We got in the accident three days before my birthday. 290 00:14:02,184 --> 00:14:04,142 I was two. I was in the back seat. 291 00:14:04,225 --> 00:14:06,643 And one thing that's always stood out for me 292 00:14:06,726 --> 00:14:09,975 is, my mom said that my dad took me out of the car seat. 293 00:14:10,059 --> 00:14:12,017 Sure enough, minutes later, we got in the accident 294 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:13,643 and that car seat was crushed. 295 00:14:13,726 --> 00:14:15,392 So if they wouldn't have done that, 296 00:14:15,476 --> 00:14:17,851 then I wouldn't be here right now. 297 00:14:17,934 --> 00:14:19,517 My grandma, my nonna, 298 00:14:19,601 --> 00:14:22,351 she showed me a picture of the accident. 299 00:14:22,434 --> 00:14:24,351 I believe I was, like, nine or ten. 300 00:14:24,434 --> 00:14:25,851 And that traumatized me. 301 00:14:25,934 --> 00:14:28,309 It's not something that a kid should see, 302 00:14:28,392 --> 00:14:30,851 especially that that's the car that their dad was in 303 00:14:30,934 --> 00:14:32,726 and that's why he's not here anymore. 304 00:14:34,309 --> 00:14:36,351 ♪ ♪ 305 00:14:36,434 --> 00:14:37,893 There you go. [chuckles] 306 00:14:37,975 --> 00:14:40,684 [dog barks] - Well, hello. 307 00:14:40,768 --> 00:14:43,017 - There you go. All right. 308 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:44,100 Mwah. 309 00:14:45,267 --> 00:14:46,184 Uh-oh. 310 00:14:46,267 --> 00:14:49,517 - Uh-oh. - [chuckles] Uh-oh. 311 00:14:49,601 --> 00:14:50,893 My whole life, I've always known 312 00:14:50,975 --> 00:14:52,643 that there was something empty, you know? 313 00:14:52,726 --> 00:14:54,059 There was always something missing. 314 00:14:54,142 --> 00:14:56,851 And I always felt that that was my dad. 315 00:14:56,934 --> 00:15:00,100 And then the moment that she came into my life, 316 00:15:00,184 --> 00:15:02,100 it was instantly filled. 317 00:15:02,184 --> 00:15:06,684 Since I didn't know him, I felt like he didn't know me. 318 00:15:06,768 --> 00:15:10,267 But now that I have a kid, I understand that, you know, 319 00:15:10,351 --> 00:15:12,559 so much has happened in this first year. 320 00:15:12,643 --> 00:15:15,893 Want to dance with this one? You like this one? 321 00:15:15,975 --> 00:15:17,392 [music playing] - [giggles] 322 00:15:17,476 --> 00:15:19,517 - I'm sitting there playing with her, and I... 323 00:15:19,601 --> 00:15:22,267 every day, I think about my dad. 324 00:15:22,351 --> 00:15:23,392 - Ow! 325 00:15:23,476 --> 00:15:24,559 - I promised my brother that I was gonna help 326 00:15:24,643 --> 00:15:26,225 take care of his son, Francesco. 327 00:15:26,309 --> 00:15:28,893 - But there was a lot of things back then 328 00:15:28,975 --> 00:15:30,059 that happened. 329 00:15:30,142 --> 00:15:33,017 There was a fight over custody of Francesco. 330 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:35,351 - My family, they didn't want us 331 00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:38,267 to be any part of Francesco's life whatsoever. 332 00:15:38,351 --> 00:15:40,684 We were both devastated. 333 00:15:40,768 --> 00:15:43,934 - Last I heard, he's had a baby and so forth and so on. 334 00:15:44,017 --> 00:15:45,309 I wish him the best. 335 00:15:45,392 --> 00:15:46,975 If anything else comes out of this, I want him to know 336 00:15:47,059 --> 00:15:49,768 that we desperately did try to be part of his life. 337 00:15:49,851 --> 00:15:50,934 - Yeah. 338 00:15:51,017 --> 00:15:53,142 [melancholic music] 339 00:15:53,225 --> 00:15:57,142 - My dad--honestly, I don't have physical memories of him. 340 00:15:57,225 --> 00:15:59,893 But I have a lot of memories from seeing home videos. 341 00:15:59,975 --> 00:16:02,768 - Say, "Hi, I'm Frankie." - I'm Frankie. 342 00:16:02,851 --> 00:16:04,934 - Laugh. - [laughs] 343 00:16:05,017 --> 00:16:06,601 - Oh, say--Frank, say, "I don't feel good." 344 00:16:06,684 --> 00:16:07,768 Be sad. 345 00:16:07,851 --> 00:16:10,267 - Aww. - Aww. 346 00:16:10,351 --> 00:16:12,768 - That's who I remember. 347 00:16:12,851 --> 00:16:15,267 You know, I don't see his mobster guy 348 00:16:15,351 --> 00:16:16,726 who did all these things. 349 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,184 I just see my dad. 350 00:16:18,267 --> 00:16:25,142 ♪ ♪ 351 00:16:25,225 --> 00:16:29,267 - Before I knew it, he was gone. 352 00:16:30,975 --> 00:16:33,601 I just didn't even know what to think anymore. 353 00:16:33,684 --> 00:16:35,476 I mean, I wasn't thinking about the money. 354 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:36,851 I was just thinking, 355 00:16:36,934 --> 00:16:39,559 "Oh, my God, what am I going to do? 356 00:16:39,643 --> 00:16:42,142 What am I gonna do?" 357 00:16:42,225 --> 00:16:43,601 I don't have anyone to talk to. 358 00:16:43,684 --> 00:16:45,017 I don't have anyone to go to. 359 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:48,100 It's just me. 360 00:16:48,184 --> 00:16:50,100 - After my brother passed away, 361 00:16:50,184 --> 00:16:52,309 a week and a half afterwards, 362 00:16:52,392 --> 00:16:55,476 everything was gone in his house-- 363 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:57,975 all of the antiques, all of the furniture. 364 00:16:58,059 --> 00:17:00,351 He had Mickey Mantle cards, Babe Ruth cards. 365 00:17:00,434 --> 00:17:03,684 He had so many things in that house. 366 00:17:03,768 --> 00:17:05,309 Everything disappeared. 367 00:17:05,392 --> 00:17:07,851 ♪ ♪ 368 00:17:07,934 --> 00:17:09,476 And Robin claimed that, 369 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:11,893 "Oh, we got robbed while we were in the hospital." 370 00:17:11,975 --> 00:17:13,768 Really? - Mm. 371 00:17:15,309 --> 00:17:19,851 - I think Robin as well as friends of hers 372 00:17:19,934 --> 00:17:22,351 stole everything from my brother. 373 00:17:22,434 --> 00:17:24,184 All his jewelry, gone. 374 00:17:24,267 --> 00:17:25,726 All his furniture, gone. 375 00:17:25,809 --> 00:17:27,643 - There was nothing. - They robbed him blind. 376 00:17:27,726 --> 00:17:34,726 ♪ ♪ 377 00:17:42,517 --> 00:17:43,726 - Yeah. 378 00:17:43,809 --> 00:17:45,267 - Yeah, yeah. 379 00:17:45,351 --> 00:17:46,559 - Yeah. 380 00:17:46,643 --> 00:17:49,392 I had-- there was a bunch of, like-- 381 00:17:49,476 --> 00:17:51,351 we had a casino. 382 00:17:51,434 --> 00:17:56,809 And they got all our slot machines. 383 00:17:59,851 --> 00:18:01,309 - Yeah. 384 00:18:03,975 --> 00:18:07,225 - I don't know. I don't know. I didn't care. 385 00:18:07,309 --> 00:18:09,975 When you lose... 386 00:18:10,059 --> 00:18:12,059 you don't think about-- you don't give a shit. 387 00:18:12,142 --> 00:18:15,017 I didn't give a shit about that stuff 388 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:17,309 at all. 389 00:18:18,643 --> 00:18:22,059 He wasn't messing with the most savory kind of people, 390 00:18:22,142 --> 00:18:24,434 you know? 391 00:18:24,517 --> 00:18:27,934 Um...[scoffs] 392 00:18:28,017 --> 00:18:29,684 I don't know. 393 00:18:31,684 --> 00:18:33,392 I don't know. 394 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:36,142 [sniffles] 395 00:18:36,225 --> 00:18:38,392 - My grandparents did point blame at my mom, 396 00:18:38,476 --> 00:18:39,601 and that's not cool. 397 00:18:39,684 --> 00:18:41,267 She lost her husband, you know? 398 00:18:41,351 --> 00:18:43,684 She lost her soul mate. 399 00:18:43,768 --> 00:18:45,100 I 100% don't believe 400 00:18:45,184 --> 00:18:46,559 that was something that she did on purpose. 401 00:18:46,643 --> 00:18:49,392 I don't--not at all. 402 00:18:49,476 --> 00:18:51,601 - Robin had lived the lavish lifestyle 403 00:18:51,684 --> 00:18:53,017 when she was married to Jerry. 404 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:54,601 She had the money. She had the car. 405 00:18:54,684 --> 00:18:57,100 She had the big house. She had everything. 406 00:18:57,184 --> 00:19:00,601 Once Jerry passed away, that money, 407 00:19:00,684 --> 00:19:03,434 that cash cow, you may call it, is gone. 408 00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:06,643 So now at this point, Robin's hungry for that money, 409 00:19:06,726 --> 00:19:09,934 so she literally would do anything at all 410 00:19:10,017 --> 00:19:11,142 to have the money. 411 00:19:11,225 --> 00:19:12,934 - The Wheel of Justice. 412 00:19:13,017 --> 00:19:14,643 Let's spin the wheel 413 00:19:14,726 --> 00:19:16,184 and see who it lands on this week. 414 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:24,768 Looks like we're gonna come up on Ms. Colombo. 415 00:19:24,851 --> 00:19:26,476 She's been on the wheel a couple of weeks. 416 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:31,142 - Okay, Robin Colombo's wanted for grand theft auto. 417 00:19:31,225 --> 00:19:32,142 - If you know where she is 418 00:19:32,225 --> 00:19:33,809 or any of the suspects on the wheel, 419 00:19:33,893 --> 00:19:34,809 please call Crime Stoppers. 420 00:19:34,893 --> 00:19:38,142 That number is (866) 845-TIPS. 421 00:19:38,225 --> 00:19:39,476 Officer Hartley, thank you. 422 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:40,476 - Always a pleasure. 423 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:43,100 [dramatic music] 424 00:19:43,184 --> 00:19:44,809 - So she started doing check fraud. 425 00:19:44,893 --> 00:19:47,184 She would get checks that were unworthy 426 00:19:47,267 --> 00:19:48,476 and no money to back them 427 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:50,768 and she would write them out and cash them, 428 00:19:50,851 --> 00:19:53,893 and she got caught for that. 429 00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:55,684 I remember Francesco actually explaining this, 430 00:19:55,768 --> 00:19:56,726 as young as he was, 431 00:19:56,809 --> 00:19:58,851 about how he would go into a store 432 00:19:58,934 --> 00:20:00,684 and his mom would tell him 433 00:20:00,768 --> 00:20:02,684 to pick up a $200, $300 pocketbook 434 00:20:02,768 --> 00:20:04,184 and just carry it out 435 00:20:04,267 --> 00:20:06,559 because the security wouldn't stop a child. 436 00:20:06,643 --> 00:20:09,017 - Or if they did, it was, "Oh, put that down, Francesco." 437 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:10,225 - Yeah. - "That's not yours." 438 00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:11,351 - Yeah, "That's not yours." 439 00:20:11,434 --> 00:20:12,643 She was training him at a very young age 440 00:20:12,726 --> 00:20:13,975 'cause she needed that money. 441 00:20:14,059 --> 00:20:15,975 ♪ ♪ 442 00:20:16,059 --> 00:20:17,809 - I went to prison. 443 00:20:17,893 --> 00:20:20,851 I was trying to keep up the lifestyle. 444 00:20:20,934 --> 00:20:23,934 Uncle Jerry never even contacted me 445 00:20:24,017 --> 00:20:26,517 after Jerry, my husband, died. 446 00:20:26,601 --> 00:20:28,225 Nope. 447 00:20:28,309 --> 00:20:29,809 I don't--yeah. 448 00:20:32,142 --> 00:20:33,684 - I mean, I'll admit, the first couple of days, 449 00:20:33,768 --> 00:20:34,768 I had tickets in my hand. 450 00:20:34,851 --> 00:20:36,684 I'm like, "Whoa. 451 00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:40,684 Should I take over his business now?" 452 00:20:40,768 --> 00:20:42,267 You know, 'cause I could've easily... 453 00:20:42,351 --> 00:20:43,267 - He could've... 454 00:20:43,351 --> 00:20:45,225 - I could've easily went to Uncle Jerry 455 00:20:45,309 --> 00:20:47,893 and said, "Hey, you know, let's continue this." 456 00:20:47,975 --> 00:20:50,934 I could've easily kept it going, 457 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:53,601 but I didn't, 458 00:20:53,684 --> 00:20:56,225 'cause I didn't want to look over my shoulder. 459 00:20:56,309 --> 00:20:58,893 I thought they had it stopped when my brother passed away, 460 00:20:58,975 --> 00:21:00,184 so I wasn't gonna use them. 461 00:21:00,267 --> 00:21:01,601 I wasn't gonna give them to anybody. 462 00:21:01,684 --> 00:21:03,392 I wasn't gonna try to sell them, what have you. 463 00:21:03,476 --> 00:21:04,768 I just destroyed them, 464 00:21:04,851 --> 00:21:07,809 hoping that it was never gonna be found out. 465 00:21:07,893 --> 00:21:10,267 That was my goal. 466 00:21:10,351 --> 00:21:11,434 Like I've always said my whole life, 467 00:21:11,517 --> 00:21:12,726 "If you can get away with something 468 00:21:12,809 --> 00:21:15,601 over and over and over, you only gotta be caught once." 469 00:21:15,684 --> 00:21:17,100 - Once. 470 00:21:17,184 --> 00:21:19,434 - You get caught once, you're done. 471 00:21:19,517 --> 00:21:22,392 [birds singing] 472 00:21:27,851 --> 00:21:29,309 - At this point, 473 00:21:29,392 --> 00:21:32,476 Operation Final Answer was moving fast. 474 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,309 Everything was on the table. 475 00:21:34,392 --> 00:21:35,768 [phone rings] 476 00:21:35,851 --> 00:21:37,225 It's kind of like a factory. 477 00:21:37,309 --> 00:21:39,309 I mean, everybody's working. Everybody's writing. 478 00:21:39,392 --> 00:21:40,559 They're reviewing tapes. 479 00:21:40,643 --> 00:21:43,975 I mean, it's a whole elaborate team effort process. 480 00:21:44,059 --> 00:21:45,643 ♪ ♪ 481 00:21:45,726 --> 00:21:47,267 In order to do this scam, 482 00:21:47,351 --> 00:21:50,934 Jerry Jacobson needed what we refer to as middlemen. 483 00:21:51,017 --> 00:21:53,601 One of the early middlemen was Jerry Colombo, 484 00:21:53,684 --> 00:21:57,517 who passed away, died in a car accident. 485 00:21:57,601 --> 00:22:00,726 Okay, now what? 486 00:22:00,809 --> 00:22:03,809 The one thing that was still out there was, 487 00:22:03,893 --> 00:22:08,142 really how mechanically is Jerry Jacobson doing this? 488 00:22:08,225 --> 00:22:13,100 And that was, you know, kind of this nagging question mark. 489 00:22:13,184 --> 00:22:14,934 - We were just building the puzzle 490 00:22:15,017 --> 00:22:16,309 from all the pieces, 491 00:22:16,392 --> 00:22:17,809 and there were so many different pieces 492 00:22:17,893 --> 00:22:19,017 that we were putting together. 493 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,309 ♪ ♪ 494 00:22:21,392 --> 00:22:23,559 - We were working a lot with the Atlanta division, 495 00:22:23,643 --> 00:22:25,267 who had a surveillance team. 496 00:22:25,351 --> 00:22:26,809 Kind of like in the movies, you know, 497 00:22:26,893 --> 00:22:28,726 guys parked in cars are following with, 498 00:22:28,809 --> 00:22:30,517 you know, binoculars and cameras, 499 00:22:30,601 --> 00:22:33,643 you know, painting the picture of this guy, his background 500 00:22:33,726 --> 00:22:35,559 and, you know, who he was. 501 00:22:35,643 --> 00:22:38,351 Undercover tapes and the video were coming in. 502 00:22:38,434 --> 00:22:41,225 Conversations on the wiretap were coming in. 503 00:22:41,309 --> 00:22:43,017 Lot of moving parts. 504 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,851 - Jerry was paranoid. 505 00:22:44,934 --> 00:22:47,225 He's been talking about his phone being tapped 506 00:22:47,309 --> 00:22:49,267 ever since we were in Florida. 507 00:22:49,351 --> 00:22:51,184 He would always say, 508 00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:53,684 "Don't say that. Our phones might be tapped. 509 00:22:53,768 --> 00:22:55,142 "Somebody be listening. 510 00:22:55,225 --> 00:22:57,351 You never know who's gonna hear you." 511 00:22:57,434 --> 00:22:59,684 And one day, we were just chitchatting, 512 00:22:59,768 --> 00:23:01,309 and I said something. 513 00:23:01,392 --> 00:23:03,059 I didn't think it was a big deal. 514 00:23:03,142 --> 00:23:05,809 And he said, "Watch out. Don't say it like that." 515 00:23:05,893 --> 00:23:08,559 So in a few minutes, I finally said, "Hey, Jerry, 516 00:23:08,643 --> 00:23:12,225 when did you tell Leo to go kill the president?" 517 00:23:12,309 --> 00:23:15,059 And he hung up on me. [chuckles] 518 00:23:15,142 --> 00:23:17,893 I'm thinking to myself, 519 00:23:17,975 --> 00:23:22,100 "Why do you think somebody would find you so interesting 520 00:23:22,184 --> 00:23:24,059 that they would want to tap your phones?" 521 00:23:24,142 --> 00:23:26,601 [line rings] 522 00:23:26,684 --> 00:23:28,726 - Jerry Jacobson's controlling all the pieces at that point, 523 00:23:28,809 --> 00:23:30,893 so he needed to replace Colombo 524 00:23:30,975 --> 00:23:32,643 as quickly as possible. 525 00:23:32,726 --> 00:23:36,726 Identification of sources that he could use of recruiters 526 00:23:36,809 --> 00:23:38,351 became his full-time job. 527 00:23:38,434 --> 00:23:40,726 - One of the middlemen, AJ Glomb, 528 00:23:40,809 --> 00:23:43,225 came on the radar screen fairly early. 529 00:23:43,309 --> 00:23:45,184 After Colombo died, 530 00:23:45,267 --> 00:23:48,100 Glomb had a number of telephonic conversations 531 00:23:48,184 --> 00:23:51,017 with Jerry Jacobson, and you follow-- 532 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:52,934 you know, follow where the evidence leads you. 533 00:23:53,017 --> 00:23:59,517 ♪ ♪ 534 00:24:03,184 --> 00:24:07,517 - My name is Andrew Glomb. I go by AJ. 535 00:24:09,309 --> 00:24:12,142 One day, a friend of mine called me up and he said, 536 00:24:12,225 --> 00:24:14,601 "I have something you might be interested in. 537 00:24:14,684 --> 00:24:16,643 "Write down this number 538 00:24:16,726 --> 00:24:18,643 and go to a phone booth and call me." 539 00:24:18,726 --> 00:24:20,517 I said, "Oh, no, no." [chuckles] 540 00:24:20,601 --> 00:24:24,100 I says, "I had enough of that in my life. I-- 541 00:24:24,184 --> 00:24:27,142 Come on, I just got off probation a couple years ago." 542 00:24:27,225 --> 00:24:30,100 I had just finished up a drug sentence, 543 00:24:30,184 --> 00:24:32,893 and I didn't want anything to happen. 544 00:24:36,059 --> 00:24:37,601 - Actually, that's, like, 545 00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:40,601 one of the best parts of the whole story. 546 00:24:40,684 --> 00:24:43,142 [smooth music] 547 00:24:43,225 --> 00:24:45,267 First time I ever did any kind of drugs 548 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:48,434 was with Harold Robbins, the writer, 549 00:24:48,517 --> 00:24:50,142 and we were in Monte Carlo. 550 00:24:50,225 --> 00:24:52,851 ♪ ♪ 551 00:24:52,934 --> 00:24:54,601 And he had a bunch of girls with him. 552 00:24:54,684 --> 00:24:56,684 And so we're talking and that, and I says, 553 00:24:56,768 --> 00:25:00,142 "In your books, whenever they were having sex, 554 00:25:00,225 --> 00:25:04,309 they always did amyl nitrate before they had an orgasm." 555 00:25:04,392 --> 00:25:07,142 [chuckles] 556 00:25:07,225 --> 00:25:09,142 So I says, "Harold, 557 00:25:09,225 --> 00:25:11,142 do you have any amyl nitrate?" 558 00:25:11,225 --> 00:25:13,351 He said, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want some?" 559 00:25:13,434 --> 00:25:14,975 I said, "Yeah." 560 00:25:15,059 --> 00:25:16,309 I didn't know what I was doing. 561 00:25:16,392 --> 00:25:17,809 So I'm sitting there, 562 00:25:17,893 --> 00:25:20,184 and this girl says, "Let's dance." 563 00:25:20,267 --> 00:25:21,225 So I get up. 564 00:25:21,309 --> 00:25:23,517 ♪ ♪ 565 00:25:23,601 --> 00:25:27,351 I said, "Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God." 566 00:25:27,434 --> 00:25:29,267 Everybody said, "What's wrong? What's wrong?" 567 00:25:29,351 --> 00:25:31,351 I says, "I don't know." So I called my friend. 568 00:25:31,434 --> 00:25:33,309 I said, "Steve, get me out of here. 569 00:25:33,392 --> 00:25:34,893 Get me out of here." 570 00:25:34,975 --> 00:25:38,351 So that was my first thing with drugs. 571 00:25:38,434 --> 00:25:41,017 So how I got into selling them-- 572 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,100 I had a cousin. 573 00:25:43,184 --> 00:25:46,225 And he says, "Can you get me some quaaludes?" 574 00:25:46,309 --> 00:25:48,517 I said, "Let me ask one of my buddies." 575 00:25:48,601 --> 00:25:51,351 I said, "Steve, can you get quaaludes?" 576 00:25:51,434 --> 00:25:53,309 He said, "Yeah, how many you want?" 577 00:25:53,392 --> 00:25:55,559 I says, "I don't know." I says, "How much are they?" 578 00:25:55,643 --> 00:25:57,100 He said, "Well, how much do you want to make?" 579 00:25:57,184 --> 00:25:59,184 I said, "How much is there to make?" 580 00:25:59,267 --> 00:26:01,476 So that's how I got into drugs. 581 00:26:02,476 --> 00:26:05,684 And then in 1982, 582 00:26:05,768 --> 00:26:08,392 I had sent some drugs out 583 00:26:08,476 --> 00:26:11,059 to a friend of mine, a customer of mine. 584 00:26:11,142 --> 00:26:13,517 They were selling to somebody 585 00:26:13,601 --> 00:26:17,392 who was on the hook to the DEA, 586 00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:21,100 and they followed him to the airport. 587 00:26:21,184 --> 00:26:23,726 [pop music] 588 00:26:23,809 --> 00:26:26,434 Next thing you know, boom. [laughs] 589 00:26:26,517 --> 00:26:28,476 DEA comes out of everywhere. 590 00:26:29,975 --> 00:26:32,017 So I got 12 years 591 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,059 for six ounces of cocaine. 592 00:26:34,142 --> 00:26:35,851 [dramatic music] 593 00:26:35,934 --> 00:26:39,601 I was supposed to report to Montgomery, Alabama. 594 00:26:39,684 --> 00:26:43,643 And they gave me, like, 30 days or 60 days to report. 595 00:26:43,726 --> 00:26:46,267 And so I just didn't report. 596 00:26:46,351 --> 00:26:48,809 I waited till, like, almost the last day. 597 00:26:48,893 --> 00:26:54,100 And then I took off for New York for 16 months. 598 00:26:54,184 --> 00:26:55,893 I was a fugitive. 599 00:26:55,975 --> 00:26:58,934 [Mozart's Serenade Number 13] 600 00:26:59,017 --> 00:27:00,142 You were always worried, 601 00:27:00,225 --> 00:27:01,476 looking over your shoulder 602 00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,934 every time you see two guys with suits on. 603 00:27:05,017 --> 00:27:06,434 You think it's over. 604 00:27:06,517 --> 00:27:07,768 It's like, this could be 605 00:27:07,851 --> 00:27:10,267 your last day before you go to jail, 606 00:27:10,351 --> 00:27:13,309 so just live it to the fullest. 607 00:27:13,392 --> 00:27:18,225 It's like a movie. You're living a movie. 608 00:27:18,309 --> 00:27:22,267 But then I bought a Ferrari in Germany 609 00:27:22,351 --> 00:27:24,768 and I shipped it to Long Beach. 610 00:27:24,851 --> 00:27:28,309 Anyway, I got arrested in a doughnut shop 611 00:27:28,392 --> 00:27:29,809 in San Diego. 612 00:27:29,893 --> 00:27:31,017 [bell rings, handcuffs click] 613 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:32,768 [metal clanks] 614 00:27:34,893 --> 00:27:37,059 [phone rings] 615 00:27:38,392 --> 00:27:41,975 When I got out of prison, my friend Don Hart 616 00:27:42,059 --> 00:27:43,559 called me and said 617 00:27:43,643 --> 00:27:46,601 that he had something that I might be interested in, 618 00:27:46,684 --> 00:27:48,809 this Monopoly game. 619 00:27:48,893 --> 00:27:51,142 I was very skeptical, and I told him, 620 00:27:51,225 --> 00:27:52,309 I said, you know, "Don," 621 00:27:52,392 --> 00:27:54,392 I said, "I just got off of parole." 622 00:27:54,476 --> 00:27:55,643 And I said, "Nah, 623 00:27:55,726 --> 00:27:58,309 I don't think I want to know anything about it." 624 00:27:58,392 --> 00:28:01,643 And then probably two or three days later, I said, 625 00:28:01,726 --> 00:28:04,768 "You know, let's meet and we'll talk about it." 626 00:28:08,893 --> 00:28:13,517 Don was one of my best friends for, oh, jeez, 40-some years. 627 00:28:13,601 --> 00:28:16,809 Very wealthy. He was very well-respected. 628 00:28:16,893 --> 00:28:20,975 And he had a friend that had access to tickets. 629 00:28:21,059 --> 00:28:23,559 I said, "Why would the guy give you, 630 00:28:23,643 --> 00:28:26,517 of all people in the world, a ticket like this?" 631 00:28:26,601 --> 00:28:28,017 He says, "'Cause he knows 632 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:29,684 I'm not gonna screw him out of anything." 633 00:28:29,768 --> 00:28:32,351 And it made sense. I said, "Eh, you're right." 634 00:28:32,434 --> 00:28:34,392 He said, "You know, they need winners." 635 00:28:34,476 --> 00:28:36,392 And he says, "I have one-- 636 00:28:36,476 --> 00:28:41,017 "a ticket that you could cash in for $1 million 637 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,184 and we'll share it." 638 00:28:42,267 --> 00:28:45,059 Somebody offers you $1 million, 639 00:28:45,142 --> 00:28:46,851 you're gonna take it. [chuckles] 640 00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:50,059 Unless you gotta kill somebody, and then you might not-- 641 00:28:50,142 --> 00:28:51,726 you know, you might not be interested, 642 00:28:51,809 --> 00:28:54,643 but I start thinking about it. 643 00:28:54,726 --> 00:28:58,059 I said, "Eh, I better not do this myself." 644 00:28:58,142 --> 00:29:00,726 I didn't want to go back to prison. 645 00:29:00,809 --> 00:29:03,893 So I had a friend in San Diego. 646 00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:08,392 So I got a plane, and I flew to San Diego the next day. 647 00:29:08,476 --> 00:29:10,184 And then I ran it by him, 648 00:29:10,267 --> 00:29:12,100 told him how it worked and everything. 649 00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:14,934 And we were gonna split it three ways: 650 00:29:15,017 --> 00:29:17,726 me, Don Hart, and Stanley, 651 00:29:17,809 --> 00:29:19,893 who I was giving the ticket to. 652 00:29:19,975 --> 00:29:22,351 And I remember he told me the manager said, 653 00:29:22,434 --> 00:29:25,726 "Oh, you know, the last time somebody won, 654 00:29:25,809 --> 00:29:28,559 they gave the ticket to St. Jude." 655 00:29:28,643 --> 00:29:29,975 [chuckles] 656 00:29:30,059 --> 00:29:32,476 Stanley says, "Well, it's not happening this time." 657 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:34,601 [laughs] 658 00:29:34,684 --> 00:29:37,768 "It's not going to anybody except me." 659 00:29:37,851 --> 00:29:39,934 And so that was it. 660 00:29:40,017 --> 00:29:42,601 So he mailed it in, and then I would-- 661 00:29:42,684 --> 00:29:45,142 after that, I made several trips out to California 662 00:29:45,225 --> 00:29:46,643 to get the money from him. 663 00:29:46,726 --> 00:29:51,267 After Stanley was Richard Sokolsky, I believe. 664 00:29:51,351 --> 00:29:53,934 Victor Marchitello was the third person 665 00:29:54,017 --> 00:29:55,934 I gave a ticket to. 666 00:29:56,017 --> 00:29:58,851 I met him in prison in West Virginia. 667 00:29:58,934 --> 00:30:03,100 The next was Stan Warwick in Chicago. 668 00:30:03,184 --> 00:30:04,809 1999. 669 00:30:04,893 --> 00:30:09,601 Stan was a heart transplant recipient. 670 00:30:09,684 --> 00:30:13,017 These newscasters said, 671 00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,476 "Why is a guy with a heart transplant 672 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,142 eating McDonald's?" 673 00:30:17,225 --> 00:30:19,392 [laughs] 674 00:30:19,476 --> 00:30:20,684 - Free food. 675 00:30:20,768 --> 00:30:22,809 - We have free food. - And another free sandwich. 676 00:30:22,893 --> 00:30:23,809 - Yeah, there you go. 677 00:30:23,893 --> 00:30:25,476 - I'm too nervous. I can't do this. 678 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:26,517 [laughter] 679 00:30:26,601 --> 00:30:29,809 - I don't think I met Jerry 680 00:30:29,893 --> 00:30:33,975 until probably halfway through all these people. 681 00:30:34,059 --> 00:30:38,851 It must've been in '99 at Don's party. 682 00:30:41,059 --> 00:30:43,100 - Nothing. I didn't think nothing of it. 683 00:30:43,184 --> 00:30:46,643 He was sort of nondescript. 684 00:30:46,726 --> 00:30:49,309 Then eventually Don didn't want to be involved. 685 00:30:49,392 --> 00:30:50,768 He says, "I don't want no money. 686 00:30:50,851 --> 00:30:53,184 I don't want anything. I'm out of this." 687 00:30:53,267 --> 00:30:55,351 It was just me and Jerry 688 00:30:55,434 --> 00:30:58,309 trying to get other people involved. 689 00:30:58,392 --> 00:30:59,851 But I never-- 690 00:30:59,934 --> 00:31:03,309 I can honestly say I never had a close relationship with him. 691 00:31:05,225 --> 00:31:10,309 - Turned out, Andrew Glomb was a large recruiter, 692 00:31:10,392 --> 00:31:13,184 had provided quite a few into-- 693 00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:17,017 had enriched himself and Uncle Jerry. 694 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:20,643 He had kind of a wide net there of individuals 695 00:31:20,726 --> 00:31:23,851 who were willing to participate in this fraud scheme. 696 00:31:23,934 --> 00:31:25,643 [line rings] 697 00:31:25,726 --> 00:31:28,225 ♪ ♪ 698 00:31:28,309 --> 00:31:29,684 So when we were on the phones, 699 00:31:29,768 --> 00:31:31,142 we needed to be on the recruiters, 700 00:31:31,225 --> 00:31:35,017 and that's where we were focusing our investigation. 701 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,893 - Back then, everybody got a bill every month 702 00:31:36,975 --> 00:31:39,017 with all the long-distance calls that you made, 703 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,059 and I remember looking at the toll records. 704 00:31:41,142 --> 00:31:42,225 On one part of the ledger 705 00:31:42,309 --> 00:31:44,017 is all your winners and their phone numbers. 706 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,768 Then on the other end of the ledger, Jerry Jacobson. 707 00:31:46,851 --> 00:31:49,559 And of the hundreds of calls that each made, 708 00:31:49,643 --> 00:31:50,893 there would be, 709 00:31:50,975 --> 00:31:52,559 "Wow, they're both calling a common number. 710 00:31:52,643 --> 00:31:53,809 Look at that." 711 00:31:53,893 --> 00:31:56,059 We have, "This winner has called AJ Glomb. 712 00:31:56,142 --> 00:31:58,559 So has Jerry Jacobson." 713 00:31:58,643 --> 00:31:59,893 But that--yeah, that's how we started 714 00:31:59,975 --> 00:32:01,392 finding other middlemen. 715 00:32:01,476 --> 00:32:04,100 So then you start looking at Dwight Baker. 716 00:32:04,184 --> 00:32:11,142 ♪ ♪ 717 00:32:26,517 --> 00:32:28,434 They're all $1/2 million or better, 718 00:32:28,517 --> 00:32:30,267 $450,000 and up. 719 00:32:30,351 --> 00:32:32,601 I owned all this property on the left at one time. 720 00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:36,351 I was gonna put a little golf course in here. 721 00:32:36,434 --> 00:32:38,559 I'm Dwight Baker, developer. 722 00:32:38,643 --> 00:32:41,267 I got a real estate broker's license and builder's license 723 00:32:41,351 --> 00:32:43,643 and developed quite a number of projects. 724 00:32:43,726 --> 00:32:45,809 Probably over 1,400 of different acres 725 00:32:45,893 --> 00:32:47,684 in South Carolina. 726 00:32:52,017 --> 00:32:53,392 I met Jerry 727 00:32:53,476 --> 00:32:56,768 when I sold Jerry a piece of property in a subdivision 728 00:32:56,851 --> 00:32:59,100 and ended up building a house and a dock. 729 00:32:59,184 --> 00:33:00,975 And I sold him a couple of lots 730 00:33:01,059 --> 00:33:02,476 in another subdivision. 731 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,643 Right below that sign there, 732 00:33:04,726 --> 00:33:07,809 the two lots that Jacobson owned. 733 00:33:07,893 --> 00:33:09,476 Right here. 734 00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,726 I think it's this property here. 735 00:33:13,893 --> 00:33:16,559 I don't know if there's houses on 'em now or not. 736 00:33:19,142 --> 00:33:22,017 My family, they're probably not gonna be happy 737 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,643 with me sitting here... [chuckles] 738 00:33:24,726 --> 00:33:26,309 And telling this story. 739 00:33:26,392 --> 00:33:28,142 [choral music] 740 00:33:28,225 --> 00:33:32,768 We were all LDS, which was Latter-day Saint family. 741 00:33:32,851 --> 00:33:36,768 And I had a high profile in the community. 742 00:33:36,851 --> 00:33:38,643 You try to live a good life. 743 00:33:38,726 --> 00:33:40,643 You try to do what's right. 744 00:33:40,726 --> 00:33:41,975 Probably one of my biggest regrets, 745 00:33:42,059 --> 00:33:43,893 being involved in this McDonald's thing. 746 00:33:43,975 --> 00:33:44,893 Yeah. 747 00:33:44,975 --> 00:33:47,351 I shouldn't have been involved in it. 748 00:33:47,434 --> 00:33:50,184 Um... 749 00:33:50,267 --> 00:33:52,267 yep. 750 00:33:52,934 --> 00:33:56,017 You know, at that time I was so successful, 751 00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,809 but one day, I jumped on a motor grader 752 00:34:00,893 --> 00:34:03,559 and had an accident. 753 00:34:04,934 --> 00:34:09,309 I was backing up the hill when it stalled out. 754 00:34:09,392 --> 00:34:11,643 [engine slows and shuts off] 755 00:34:14,267 --> 00:34:16,267 [rock crunching] 756 00:34:17,893 --> 00:34:20,225 Put me in the hospital ten days. 757 00:34:20,309 --> 00:34:24,601 And that's when Jerry had first let me know what he did, 758 00:34:24,684 --> 00:34:27,351 and it was quite interesting. 759 00:34:30,476 --> 00:34:32,059 [phone rings] 760 00:34:32,142 --> 00:34:35,225 He called me while I was recuperating 761 00:34:35,309 --> 00:34:36,726 from the accident 762 00:34:36,809 --> 00:34:40,059 and asked me if I wanted to ride up the mountain. 763 00:34:40,142 --> 00:34:41,726 I said, "You'll have to pull up to the door, 764 00:34:41,809 --> 00:34:43,434 'cause, you know, I got a walker." 765 00:34:43,517 --> 00:34:44,434 He said, "Okay." 766 00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:47,351 So he pulls up to the back door, 767 00:34:47,434 --> 00:34:49,017 and we go riding up the mountain. 768 00:34:51,142 --> 00:34:55,100 He said that he was representing McDonald's 769 00:34:55,184 --> 00:34:58,643 in the distribution of the game pieces. 770 00:34:58,726 --> 00:35:00,684 He knew I was going through a tough time, 771 00:35:00,768 --> 00:35:04,768 so he offered me a game piece if I had $100,000. 772 00:35:04,851 --> 00:35:07,768 I didn't have $100,000, so he said, 773 00:35:07,851 --> 00:35:10,726 "Listen, if you want one, it's $100,000. 774 00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:12,267 It's the only way you're gonna get one." 775 00:35:12,351 --> 00:35:14,267 He said, "I have the responsibility 776 00:35:14,351 --> 00:35:16,100 "of distributing; they tell me where to go. 777 00:35:16,184 --> 00:35:19,100 So if you want a game piece, this is how it's done." 778 00:35:19,184 --> 00:35:21,893 This is the subdivision that we were in. 779 00:35:21,975 --> 00:35:24,017 Traded game pieces. I gave him money. 780 00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,934 It was just a-- it was a secluded place, yeah. 781 00:35:28,017 --> 00:35:30,267 Just a secluded place. 782 00:35:30,351 --> 00:35:32,809 I knew he was selling the game pieces. 783 00:35:35,517 --> 00:35:36,934 And I asked him, I said, "Jerry, 784 00:35:37,017 --> 00:35:39,643 what happens if McDonald's finds out about it?" 785 00:35:39,726 --> 00:35:41,434 He said, "They're not gonna do anything about it." 786 00:35:41,517 --> 00:35:42,601 I said, "Why is that?" 787 00:35:42,684 --> 00:35:44,643 He said, "Because these game pieces 788 00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:48,142 "increase their sales by 7% out of 26,000 stores. 789 00:35:48,225 --> 00:35:50,643 "Factoring in a $1 million game piece 790 00:35:50,726 --> 00:35:52,517 "on that kind of money, 791 00:35:52,601 --> 00:35:55,017 "$89 million, $100 million? 792 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,142 "They didn't care. 793 00:35:56,225 --> 00:35:57,601 "They just--if somebody got it, 794 00:35:57,684 --> 00:35:58,934 "they didn't care if it went in the trash. 795 00:35:59,017 --> 00:36:00,726 They didn't care about it. It was factored in." 796 00:36:00,809 --> 00:36:03,392 That was his story. I bought it. 797 00:36:05,225 --> 00:36:07,768 I did not believe that there was anything here 798 00:36:07,851 --> 00:36:10,434 other than we were cheating in a game. 799 00:36:10,517 --> 00:36:12,768 I don't know if it was the OxyContin from the-- 800 00:36:12,851 --> 00:36:16,267 you know, the accident, but I took him up on it, 801 00:36:16,351 --> 00:36:17,851 'cause I didn't know if I was ever gonna walk again, 802 00:36:17,934 --> 00:36:20,309 let alone work again. 803 00:36:20,392 --> 00:36:22,643 I said, "You know, I don't have $100,000, 804 00:36:22,726 --> 00:36:25,142 but I might know somebody that does." 805 00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:28,059 - Breakfast, lunch, or dinner, there's always a line. 806 00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:29,809 - A Big Mac combo, please. 807 00:36:31,768 --> 00:36:34,059 - Serving over 13 million McDonald's customers 808 00:36:34,142 --> 00:36:38,017 each year in the U.S., double that globally. 809 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,392 So you can imagine how rare it is to see this. 810 00:36:40,476 --> 00:36:42,684 [cheers and applause] 811 00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:45,726 George Chandler of Walhalla just won $1 million 812 00:36:45,809 --> 00:36:50,100 in the Hatch, Match & Win game right here in West Union, 813 00:36:50,184 --> 00:36:52,184 and Chandler was all smiles. 814 00:36:52,267 --> 00:36:53,476 - We, you know, 815 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,851 bought our breakfast and I got, you know, 816 00:36:54,934 --> 00:36:57,351 my hash browns, coffee, whatever, and... 817 00:36:57,434 --> 00:37:01,643 I peeled it off, and there it was. 818 00:37:04,934 --> 00:37:10,017 ♪ O beautiful for spacious skies ♪ 819 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,975 ♪ For amber waves of grain ♪ 820 00:37:14,059 --> 00:37:15,267 [cows moo] 821 00:37:15,351 --> 00:37:19,726 ♪ For purple mountain majesties ♪ 822 00:37:19,809 --> 00:37:21,809 Come on over here, girls! 823 00:37:21,893 --> 00:37:26,434 ♪ Across the fruited plain ♪ 824 00:37:26,517 --> 00:37:27,934 ♪ America ♪ 825 00:37:28,017 --> 00:37:29,726 Come on! 826 00:37:29,809 --> 00:37:31,893 ♪ America ♪ 827 00:37:31,975 --> 00:37:35,392 ♪ God shed his grace on thee ♪ 828 00:37:35,476 --> 00:37:37,559 [chuckles] Just like that. 829 00:37:37,643 --> 00:37:39,684 See, they like it. 830 00:37:39,768 --> 00:37:43,517 ♪ From sea to shining sea ♪ 831 00:37:43,601 --> 00:37:46,559 We should've brought some more feed, shouldn't we, girls? 832 00:37:46,643 --> 00:37:48,059 Hmm? 833 00:37:48,142 --> 00:37:49,809 I'm a pretty lucky guy. 834 00:37:51,142 --> 00:37:53,726 It's not within my personal capacity 835 00:37:53,809 --> 00:37:55,267 to have achieved a lot of the things 836 00:37:55,351 --> 00:37:58,309 I've been able to do in life. 837 00:37:58,392 --> 00:37:59,559 I don't know--you know, 838 00:37:59,643 --> 00:38:02,309 they say God looks after fools and children. 839 00:38:02,392 --> 00:38:04,309 I don't know which category I fall into, 840 00:38:04,392 --> 00:38:08,142 but it's one of 'em. [chuckles] 841 00:38:10,684 --> 00:38:12,975 All right, where do we go from here? 842 00:38:13,059 --> 00:38:15,768 [soft music] 843 00:38:15,851 --> 00:38:17,517 I'm George Chandler. 844 00:38:17,601 --> 00:38:20,434 I grew up in abject poverty. 845 00:38:20,517 --> 00:38:21,809 I was raised Mormon, 846 00:38:21,893 --> 00:38:23,768 one of eight kids. 847 00:38:23,851 --> 00:38:26,934 And we grew up in here in rural Oconee County, South Carolina. 848 00:38:27,017 --> 00:38:28,142 And we were poor. 849 00:38:28,225 --> 00:38:30,893 I didn't have running water until 1986. 850 00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:33,643 So I mean, we're not talking about ancient history here. 851 00:38:33,726 --> 00:38:35,809 We're talking about 1986. 852 00:38:35,893 --> 00:38:38,351 Most people have running water at that point in time. 853 00:38:38,434 --> 00:38:40,476 We were still using a well. 854 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:41,476 - What do you think? 855 00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:43,975 - Dwight was very successful. 856 00:38:44,059 --> 00:38:46,351 He had a family. He had five kids. 857 00:38:46,434 --> 00:38:48,142 I became friends with his son, 858 00:38:48,225 --> 00:38:52,309 and when I was about 12, I left home, 859 00:38:52,392 --> 00:38:57,267 and Dwight Baker was a foster father to me for a time. 860 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:00,142 - Well, George and I--I mean, 861 00:39:00,225 --> 00:39:03,184 originally we went to church together--families. 862 00:39:03,267 --> 00:39:04,351 So we took him in. 863 00:39:04,434 --> 00:39:06,267 We became foster parents for George. 864 00:39:06,351 --> 00:39:09,017 And he grew up with our kids. 865 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,934 - You know, being in such a big family 866 00:39:11,017 --> 00:39:13,142 and being poor especially, 867 00:39:13,225 --> 00:39:16,392 why would I not want to move in with Dwight? 868 00:39:19,267 --> 00:39:21,851 You know, he drove a BMW and, you know, 869 00:39:21,934 --> 00:39:27,309 had those successful characteristics that I wanted. 870 00:39:28,768 --> 00:39:31,684 - George has always been highly special. 871 00:39:31,768 --> 00:39:36,684 I mean, he wanted just to absorb knowledge. 872 00:39:36,768 --> 00:39:38,351 Absorbed anything you could teach him. 873 00:39:38,434 --> 00:39:40,559 He knew, if he was gonna get out, 874 00:39:40,643 --> 00:39:41,975 he needed to work hard. 875 00:39:43,267 --> 00:39:46,975 - When I was 15 years old, I quit school. 876 00:39:47,059 --> 00:39:49,517 I had grown a mustache to make me look older 877 00:39:49,601 --> 00:39:53,059 and told some local employers that I was 18, 878 00:39:53,142 --> 00:39:54,559 and I immediately went to work. 879 00:39:54,643 --> 00:39:57,975 I worked 16 hours a day instead of 8. 880 00:39:58,059 --> 00:40:00,934 That proved to work for me, and I became an entrepreneur 881 00:40:01,017 --> 00:40:02,392 and got in a lot of different things: 882 00:40:02,476 --> 00:40:05,267 communications company, septic system installers, 883 00:40:05,351 --> 00:40:07,559 security company, medical alarm monitoring, 884 00:40:07,643 --> 00:40:08,851 industrial programming, 885 00:40:08,934 --> 00:40:10,434 residential rentals, commercial rentals. 886 00:40:10,517 --> 00:40:11,768 I told him I wanted to be a millionaire 887 00:40:11,851 --> 00:40:13,142 by the time I was 25. 888 00:40:16,809 --> 00:40:19,434 So when Dwight came to me with the ticket, 889 00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:21,559 he knew that I was in a position that I-- 890 00:40:21,643 --> 00:40:24,851 you know, that I had some cash to work with. 891 00:40:24,934 --> 00:40:28,726 I mean, this is a $1 million winning ticket. 892 00:40:28,809 --> 00:40:31,768 And he's got it in a ziplock sandwich bag 893 00:40:31,851 --> 00:40:34,100 that's not even zipped. 894 00:40:34,184 --> 00:40:36,559 And he lays it down on my desk, 895 00:40:36,643 --> 00:40:39,225 and I take it out, look at it. 896 00:40:39,309 --> 00:40:40,601 I mean, it just says, 897 00:40:40,684 --> 00:40:43,975 "$1 million winner. Call 1-800"--whatever. 898 00:40:45,351 --> 00:40:47,225 - I said, "George, a friend of mine 899 00:40:47,309 --> 00:40:49,934 got this $1 million game piece from McDonald's." 900 00:40:50,017 --> 00:40:52,100 And I said, "He's going through a divorce." 901 00:40:52,184 --> 00:40:53,726 I said, "He offered to sell it to me." 902 00:40:53,809 --> 00:40:55,434 He said, "By the time I split it with her 903 00:40:55,517 --> 00:40:56,643 and pay the taxes and all that?" 904 00:40:56,726 --> 00:40:57,893 Said, "I'll sell it for $100,000." 905 00:40:57,975 --> 00:40:59,975 - Because he's going through a divorce 906 00:41:00,059 --> 00:41:03,726 and he doesn't think the ticket 907 00:41:03,809 --> 00:41:05,768 should be considered marital property. 908 00:41:05,851 --> 00:41:07,851 But Dwight's friend, 909 00:41:07,934 --> 00:41:09,975 I didn't know this guy from Adam. 910 00:41:10,059 --> 00:41:11,434 You know, never met him. 911 00:41:11,517 --> 00:41:15,809 But I had already gone through a very bitter divorce myself, 912 00:41:15,893 --> 00:41:19,142 so I felt like it was a legitimate concern. 913 00:41:19,225 --> 00:41:21,309 I mean, he was already separated. 914 00:41:21,392 --> 00:41:25,559 It wasn't like he had this while he was happily married. 915 00:41:31,434 --> 00:41:36,142 - Well, because... 916 00:41:36,225 --> 00:41:40,017 I didn't want him to know I was involved in it, you know, 917 00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:43,768 in something that wasn't-- that wasn't real, 918 00:41:43,851 --> 00:41:46,351 that had a tint of... 919 00:41:48,601 --> 00:41:50,100 I knew Jerry was doing something wrong, 920 00:41:50,184 --> 00:41:52,142 and it just probably didn't feel like 921 00:41:52,225 --> 00:41:54,601 it was the right thing to do for me to be involved in it, 922 00:41:54,684 --> 00:41:58,517 you know, but yeah, I did it out of expediency, maybe. 923 00:41:58,601 --> 00:42:04,476 And I just tried to protect him from the truth of it. 924 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,726 Because, you know, if it did backfire 925 00:42:06,809 --> 00:42:09,017 and it wasn't going-- you know, it wasn't right, 926 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,142 I mean, he didn't need to have any knowledge of anything, 927 00:42:12,225 --> 00:42:13,434 you know? 928 00:42:13,517 --> 00:42:17,726 I mean, I took that all on my shoulders, so... 929 00:42:17,809 --> 00:42:20,351 - He basically asked me, you know, 930 00:42:20,434 --> 00:42:23,142 would I be interested in buying the ticket from him 931 00:42:23,225 --> 00:42:24,351 and then redeeming it? 932 00:42:24,434 --> 00:42:27,517 I mean, everybody was collecting the tickets. 933 00:42:27,601 --> 00:42:30,225 They're buying and selling these tickets on the Internet, 934 00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:31,768 not $1 million winners 935 00:42:31,851 --> 00:42:33,975 but certainly prize-winning tickets 936 00:42:34,059 --> 00:42:37,559 and ones that match up like Boardwalk and Park Place. 937 00:42:37,643 --> 00:42:38,559 I told Dwight, I said, 938 00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:42,225 "You know, I'd probably do $100,000." 939 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:45,392 You win $50,000 a year for 20 years. 940 00:42:45,476 --> 00:42:48,059 Course, now, I had to pay taxes on this money, 941 00:42:48,142 --> 00:42:50,517 so I had to figure that in my mind, 942 00:42:50,601 --> 00:42:53,225 but I felt like somewhere along about the third year, 943 00:42:53,309 --> 00:42:55,225 I would start-- I would gain something. 944 00:42:55,309 --> 00:42:58,768 It wasn't a tremendously immediately beneficial thing. 945 00:42:58,851 --> 00:43:00,351 It wasn't like I was just gonna get this, you know, 946 00:43:00,434 --> 00:43:02,059 huge pile of money. 947 00:43:02,142 --> 00:43:05,517 But it was nonetheless still a good business decision, 948 00:43:05,601 --> 00:43:08,309 a good business deal, so I did it. 949 00:43:11,184 --> 00:43:13,351 - We were up on Dwight's phone, 950 00:43:13,434 --> 00:43:15,100 and then we start to figure out, 951 00:43:15,184 --> 00:43:18,392 "Okay, is there anything with this person George Chandler?" 952 00:43:18,476 --> 00:43:19,434 "Yeah. 953 00:43:19,517 --> 00:43:20,726 There might be something there." 954 00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:22,059 - Many times, we felt, 955 00:43:22,142 --> 00:43:23,559 "Well, how much bigger can this get?" 956 00:43:23,643 --> 00:43:24,934 And it would get bigger. 957 00:43:25,017 --> 00:43:26,476 "How much further back could it go?" 958 00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:28,267 And it would go back further. 959 00:43:28,351 --> 00:43:31,392 I had never seen anything like that and still haven't. 960 00:43:31,476 --> 00:43:34,726 [dramatic music] 961 00:43:34,809 --> 00:43:40,934 ♪ ♪ 962 00:43:41,017 --> 00:43:43,601 - What Jerry did with other people 963 00:43:43,684 --> 00:43:46,267 far as the money goes, I don't know. 964 00:43:46,351 --> 00:43:52,434 ♪ ♪ 965 00:43:52,517 --> 00:43:53,601 Best of my knowledge, 966 00:43:53,684 --> 00:43:56,309 all of mine, I believe, were $50,000. 967 00:43:56,392 --> 00:43:59,309 I mean, if you go down this list, 968 00:43:59,392 --> 00:44:03,768 I had one, two, three, four, eight, nine, ten winners. 969 00:44:03,851 --> 00:44:08,643 Out of giving away $10 million, 970 00:44:08,726 --> 00:44:12,309 I made $614,000, 971 00:44:12,392 --> 00:44:14,434 so how stupid am I? 972 00:44:14,517 --> 00:44:16,059 [chuckles] 973 00:44:17,934 --> 00:44:21,476 ♪ ♪ 974 00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:23,768 Then we come to Michael Hoover. 975 00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:28,975 August 2001. 976 00:44:29,059 --> 00:44:31,684 Michael Hoover was one of the most generous people 977 00:44:31,768 --> 00:44:32,768 you ever met, 978 00:44:32,851 --> 00:44:34,809 just a great, great friend, 979 00:44:34,893 --> 00:44:36,309 just real easygoing. 980 00:44:36,392 --> 00:44:37,809 Nothing bothered him. 981 00:44:37,893 --> 00:44:41,184 He sold a lot of drugs. [chuckles] 982 00:44:41,267 --> 00:44:44,601 That's how we became friends. 983 00:44:44,684 --> 00:44:48,851 I used to go out to Vegas back in the '70s, 984 00:44:48,934 --> 00:44:51,893 and Mike was a dealer. 985 00:44:51,975 --> 00:44:55,184 ♪ ♪ 986 00:44:55,267 --> 00:44:56,768 I called him, I says, "You know, I got something 987 00:44:56,851 --> 00:44:58,809 that you might be interested in." 988 00:44:58,893 --> 00:45:01,517 I picked up the ticket from Jerry in Atlanta. 989 00:45:01,601 --> 00:45:05,142 And so I went up there and gave him the ticket. 990 00:45:05,225 --> 00:45:08,517 ♪ ♪ 991 00:45:08,601 --> 00:45:09,934 He claimed the ticket, 992 00:45:10,017 --> 00:45:12,559 and they did the filming with the commercial. 993 00:45:12,643 --> 00:45:15,225 - This is where I lost my "People" magazine. 994 00:45:15,309 --> 00:45:16,851 Glad that after the beach, 995 00:45:16,934 --> 00:45:18,517 I stopped and picked up another one. 996 00:45:18,601 --> 00:45:20,142 - I remember him calling me, saying, 997 00:45:20,225 --> 00:45:22,476 "This production company that did the commercial," 998 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,184 he said, "this girl is really hot. 999 00:45:24,267 --> 00:45:26,184 She probably-- I think she really liked me." 1000 00:45:26,267 --> 00:45:29,643 I said, "Oh, great." I didn't think nothing of it. 1001 00:45:31,851 --> 00:45:33,059 - In the wire room, 1002 00:45:33,142 --> 00:45:36,100 we're listening to some of those phone calls to Hoover. 1003 00:45:36,184 --> 00:45:38,100 And of course, Glomb was on the other side, I think, 1004 00:45:38,184 --> 00:45:41,225 going, "Really? What does she look like?" 1005 00:45:41,309 --> 00:45:44,559 - I think all of the winners thought I really liked them. 1006 00:45:44,643 --> 00:45:46,559 You know, that's the kind of person I am. 1007 00:45:46,643 --> 00:45:48,184 You know, I was interviewing them like a friend, 1008 00:45:48,267 --> 00:45:52,142 so it was my job to make sure that they felt comfortable. 1009 00:45:53,142 --> 00:45:54,559 [laughter] 1010 00:45:54,643 --> 00:45:57,225 - She was sick to her stomach. That was her reaction. 1011 00:45:57,309 --> 00:45:58,726 She goes, "What? 1012 00:45:58,809 --> 00:46:02,559 How could he ever get that vibe?" 1013 00:46:02,643 --> 00:46:05,517 - [laughs] 1014 00:46:05,601 --> 00:46:08,267 I guess she wasn't. 1015 00:46:08,351 --> 00:46:10,934 - I guess I'm a better actress than I thought I was, you know? 1016 00:46:11,017 --> 00:46:13,017 Like...[laughs] 1017 00:46:17,893 --> 00:46:20,601 - I've been a lot of places, met a lot of people. 1018 00:46:20,684 --> 00:46:24,392 Even been as far away as North Carolina one time. 1019 00:46:24,476 --> 00:46:26,601 [laughs] 1020 00:46:26,684 --> 00:46:28,476 But... 1021 00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,267 I've never been to a place, you know, 1022 00:46:32,351 --> 00:46:34,309 where the people, the hospitality, 1023 00:46:34,392 --> 00:46:35,934 the neighborliness and all that 1024 00:46:36,017 --> 00:46:38,392 are as good as they are here. 1025 00:46:38,476 --> 00:46:44,225 ♪ ♪ 1026 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:46,726 You really find out who your friends are 1027 00:46:46,809 --> 00:46:48,768 when you're down, 1028 00:46:48,851 --> 00:46:53,309 and I've never had the opportunity 1029 00:46:53,392 --> 00:46:56,434 with some of those people to give them the entire story. 1030 00:46:56,517 --> 00:46:59,434 [indistinct country music playing] 1031 00:46:59,517 --> 00:47:03,142 ♪ ♪ 1032 00:47:03,225 --> 00:47:06,100 - Good job, Gary! - Nice job, Gary, nice job. 1033 00:47:06,184 --> 00:47:10,059 - To tell them exactly why I'm innocent. 1034 00:47:12,351 --> 00:47:16,017 This is the McDonald's where it all happened. 1035 00:47:17,392 --> 00:47:19,809 There was a press conference and a party, 1036 00:47:19,893 --> 00:47:22,434 and real Ronald McDonald was here. 1037 00:47:26,893 --> 00:47:29,476 It was kind of surreal. 1038 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,309 - Said, "Mama, I won $1 million." 1039 00:47:31,392 --> 00:47:33,643 I said, "Pooey, George. Pooey." 1040 00:47:33,726 --> 00:47:34,893 He said, "Mama, it's real." 1041 00:47:34,975 --> 00:47:36,517 - I didn't think he was serious. 1042 00:47:36,601 --> 00:47:38,225 I was like... 1043 00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:39,684 I was like, 1044 00:47:39,768 --> 00:47:41,225 "You're not serious." 1045 00:47:41,309 --> 00:47:43,768 - As a single father to eight-year-old Russell, 1046 00:47:43,851 --> 00:47:45,517 George Chandler says he'll use his winnings 1047 00:47:45,601 --> 00:47:47,351 to help raise his son. 1048 00:47:47,434 --> 00:47:50,809 He'll get $50,000 a year for the next 20 years. 1049 00:47:50,893 --> 00:47:52,851 - It wasn't an immediate thing. 1050 00:47:52,934 --> 00:47:56,476 Ultimately it done a lot more harm than good. 1051 00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:59,017 I already run a business in town, 1052 00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,434 and I was surrounded by this notion 1053 00:48:01,517 --> 00:48:03,476 that I was a millionaire now. 1054 00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:06,184 I didn't need to work. 1055 00:48:06,267 --> 00:48:08,517 I didn't need any new customers. 1056 00:48:08,601 --> 00:48:12,225 I mean, I had to put out $100,000 of my own money, 1057 00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:15,017 you know, for this thing. 1058 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,893 And I had no question whatsoever 1059 00:48:18,975 --> 00:48:22,559 about the authenticity or legitimacy of the ticket 1060 00:48:22,643 --> 00:48:24,017 or the origination of it. 1061 00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:25,684 You know, nothing ever occurred to me. 1062 00:48:25,768 --> 00:48:28,392 We're talking about Dwight Baker. 1063 00:48:28,476 --> 00:48:31,059 - I didn't take any cut out of the money, okay? 1064 00:48:31,142 --> 00:48:32,768 It was all Jerry's. 1065 00:48:32,851 --> 00:48:34,225 I told him, I said, "George, listen." 1066 00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:36,559 I said, "You just give me a Navigator and a laptop 1067 00:48:36,643 --> 00:48:38,225 and we'll be happy," you know? 1068 00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:40,392 Didn't want George to think bad of me... 1069 00:48:40,476 --> 00:48:41,726 [laughs] 1070 00:48:41,809 --> 00:48:43,100 For-- [chuckles] 1071 00:48:43,184 --> 00:48:45,517 For actually having a little larceny in my heart, 1072 00:48:45,601 --> 00:48:47,017 you know? 1073 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,434 I didn't want a whole lot. 1074 00:48:48,517 --> 00:48:50,851 I just wanted a little laptop and a Navigator. 1075 00:48:50,934 --> 00:48:52,434 [chuckles] 1076 00:48:53,643 --> 00:48:57,267 Then I went to Ronnie Hughey and offered it to him. 1077 00:48:57,351 --> 00:49:00,851 Well, that's how my greed kicked in. 1078 00:49:02,184 --> 00:49:04,267 Ronnie was just a high roller. 1079 00:49:04,351 --> 00:49:06,768 And Ronnie was going through a divorce, and he said, 1080 00:49:06,851 --> 00:49:08,392 "I'll take two or three of those." 1081 00:49:08,476 --> 00:49:10,142 [laughs] 1082 00:49:10,225 --> 00:49:13,100 ♪ ♪ 1083 00:49:13,184 --> 00:49:16,768 That was probably the real... 1084 00:49:17,392 --> 00:49:19,934 Where I really stepped over the boundary 1085 00:49:20,017 --> 00:49:21,934 was when Ronnie said, you know, 1086 00:49:22,017 --> 00:49:24,768 "I'll take one or two or three of them." 1087 00:49:24,851 --> 00:49:28,100 And I knew he could. [chuckles] 1088 00:49:28,184 --> 00:49:30,726 Oh, and I remember Jerry telling me, he said, 1089 00:49:30,809 --> 00:49:33,100 "You're getting a little greedy, ain't you? 1090 00:49:33,184 --> 00:49:34,476 Yeah. 1091 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,100 ♪ ♪ 1092 00:49:37,184 --> 00:49:39,893 Each time was a little different. 1093 00:49:44,351 --> 00:49:47,476 Jerry, he brought me fries and a drink 1094 00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:50,100 and it had the game pieces on it, you know? 1095 00:49:50,184 --> 00:49:52,309 And I'd pay him in a brown McDonald's bag, 1096 00:49:52,392 --> 00:49:56,309 had just the cash, give him the McDonald's bag money. 1097 00:49:56,392 --> 00:50:01,017 ♪ ♪ 1098 00:50:05,934 --> 00:50:07,517 - Never asked him. 1099 00:50:07,601 --> 00:50:09,975 You know, Jerry used to say all the time, 1100 00:50:10,059 --> 00:50:11,934 "This is gonna be the last one. 1101 00:50:12,017 --> 00:50:14,434 This is gonna be the last one." 1102 00:50:14,517 --> 00:50:15,851 And then one time, he said, 1103 00:50:15,934 --> 00:50:19,142 "There's gonna be a $5 million prize 1104 00:50:19,225 --> 00:50:20,434 "that they're gonna give. 1105 00:50:20,517 --> 00:50:23,351 "You take that one," 1106 00:50:23,434 --> 00:50:25,684 and I don't know how we were gonna split it, 1107 00:50:25,768 --> 00:50:27,392 but he said, "Then that's it. 1108 00:50:27,476 --> 00:50:30,684 We'll ride into the sunset and forget it." 1109 00:50:30,768 --> 00:50:33,434 You know, so... 1110 00:50:34,768 --> 00:50:39,017 - Jerry was--he was very private, very secretive. 1111 00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:43,267 I mean, he never talked about anything with anybody else. 1112 00:50:44,934 --> 00:50:47,684 I knew he could sell me game pieces, 1113 00:50:47,768 --> 00:50:50,559 but I didn't know to what degree. 1114 00:50:52,601 --> 00:50:54,851 Jerry told me, he said, "Listen, 1115 00:50:54,934 --> 00:50:57,184 "there was a $1/2 million game piece 1116 00:50:57,267 --> 00:51:01,517 where McDonald's issued one $500,000 check, cash." 1117 00:51:01,601 --> 00:51:04,893 You wouldn't have to wait $50,000 a year. 1118 00:51:04,975 --> 00:51:06,601 And I wanted it. 1119 00:51:06,684 --> 00:51:08,434 And so... 1120 00:51:08,517 --> 00:51:12,768 I made arrangements with my wife's sister, Brenda, 1121 00:51:12,851 --> 00:51:18,267 and I said, "Cash that check, and we'll split it." 1122 00:51:18,351 --> 00:51:20,392 I thought it would've been a tough sell, you know? 1123 00:51:20,476 --> 00:51:24,476 But...it wasn't. 1124 00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,142 We created an address for her 1125 00:51:27,225 --> 00:51:30,517 in Asheville, North Carolina. 1126 00:51:30,601 --> 00:51:32,601 She turned in the game piece. 1127 00:51:32,684 --> 00:51:36,768 We didn't talk for a while, but time had lapsed. 1128 00:51:36,851 --> 00:51:41,184 There was no reason for her to have not 1129 00:51:41,267 --> 00:51:43,434 been paid on the game piece. 1130 00:51:43,517 --> 00:51:45,309 I said, "I'm gonna go up to Asheville 1131 00:51:45,392 --> 00:51:47,684 and see what's going on." 1132 00:51:47,768 --> 00:51:50,225 And I went up there, and... 1133 00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:52,476 the damn FedEx thing had been opened 1134 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:54,768 and fallen on the floor, and... 1135 00:51:54,851 --> 00:51:57,809 I said, "She's got the damn money." 1136 00:51:57,893 --> 00:52:01,017 [tense music] 1137 00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,601 Brenda decided that she was gonna keep all the money, 1138 00:52:04,684 --> 00:52:06,392 run with the money. 1139 00:52:06,476 --> 00:52:08,559 That scared the shit out of me 1140 00:52:08,643 --> 00:52:12,267 because I knew Jerry wouldn't be very damn happy. 1141 00:52:12,351 --> 00:52:14,643 Jerry told me if there's a problem, 1142 00:52:14,726 --> 00:52:17,975 I'd get a visit from his cousin Guido. 1143 00:52:18,059 --> 00:52:20,142 And I took that pretty serious. 1144 00:52:20,225 --> 00:52:22,392 ♪ ♪ 1145 00:52:22,476 --> 00:52:24,142 Went to my wife, and I said, 1146 00:52:24,225 --> 00:52:26,309 "She's running with the money." 1147 00:52:26,392 --> 00:52:28,351 And that's what really hooked her in. 1148 00:52:28,434 --> 00:52:30,476 That's where she got a problem, 1149 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,309 'cause she looked at it as her money. 1150 00:52:33,392 --> 00:52:34,601 [engine turning over] 1151 00:52:38,434 --> 00:52:39,934 - Yeah. 1152 00:52:40,017 --> 00:52:42,934 [indistinct arguing] 1153 00:52:43,017 --> 00:52:45,476 ♪ ♪ 1154 00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:50,601 And...my wife could not stay off the telephone. 1155 00:52:50,684 --> 00:52:54,434 ♪ ♪ 1156 00:52:54,517 --> 00:52:58,142 - Dwight Baker made a phone call to Brenda Phenis 1157 00:52:58,225 --> 00:53:01,643 and for whatever reason didn't quite disconnect the phone... 1158 00:53:01,726 --> 00:53:02,643 [chuckles] 1159 00:53:02,726 --> 00:53:05,184 Which we were still monitoring. 1160 00:53:05,267 --> 00:53:09,392 And it was like having a bug in their car. 1161 00:53:09,476 --> 00:53:12,017 - So inside the wire room, we're hearing 1162 00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:15,184 how Brenda Phenis was running around 1163 00:53:15,267 --> 00:53:18,142 the Indianapolis Airport 1164 00:53:18,225 --> 00:53:20,851 and Dwight was looking to bury her somewhere. 1165 00:53:20,934 --> 00:53:22,434 - They're saying, you know, 1166 00:53:22,517 --> 00:53:24,392 he's following her to the airport. 1167 00:53:24,476 --> 00:53:26,059 He says he's gonna kill her. 1168 00:53:26,142 --> 00:53:28,225 There was a lot of concern on that. 1169 00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:29,476 - What are we gonna do 1170 00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:32,100 if they are in fact really gonna harm her? 1171 00:53:32,184 --> 00:53:34,726 We obviously have to intervene, 1172 00:53:34,809 --> 00:53:37,184 but that would have serious consequences 1173 00:53:37,267 --> 00:53:38,684 for the investigation. 1174 00:53:38,768 --> 00:53:42,643 One little slipup, you know, could shut it down. 1175 00:53:42,726 --> 00:53:45,643 [suspenseful music] 1176 00:53:45,726 --> 00:53:46,934 ♪ ♪ 1177 00:53:47,017 --> 00:53:52,142 - To me, Dwight was a man of integrity and character. 1178 00:53:52,225 --> 00:53:54,017 It just did not occur to me 1179 00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:55,934 that he would do something like that. 1180 00:53:56,017 --> 00:53:58,351 ♪ ♪ 1181 00:53:58,434 --> 00:54:01,809 If you can't be trusted, what do you have? 1182 00:54:03,476 --> 00:54:05,392 - Okay, George. 1183 00:54:05,476 --> 00:54:07,809 [crowd shouting "George!"] 1184 00:54:07,893 --> 00:54:10,017 - Let's have fun, y'all. [country music playing] 1185 00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:13,225 - ♪ She got runned over by a damn ♪ 1186 00:54:13,309 --> 00:54:16,975 [crowd singing along] - Yeah, yeah, yeah! 1187 00:54:17,059 --> 00:54:20,392 ♪ And so I'll hang around ♪ 1188 00:54:20,476 --> 00:54:24,184 ♪ As long as you will let me ♪ 1189 00:54:24,267 --> 00:54:25,392 ♪ ♪ 1190 00:54:25,476 --> 00:54:26,726 Oh, that sounds good. 1191 00:54:26,809 --> 00:54:30,225 ♪ And I never minded ♪ 1192 00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:33,975 ♪ Standing in the rain ♪ 1193 00:54:34,059 --> 00:54:36,267 ♪ No, oh, yeah ♪ 1194 00:54:36,351 --> 00:54:39,059 - Because it's an airport, everything is monitored live. 1195 00:54:39,142 --> 00:54:40,601 It's a public place, 1196 00:54:40,684 --> 00:54:43,434 and we had people on scene there watching the cameras, 1197 00:54:43,517 --> 00:54:45,225 agents who just could blend in 1198 00:54:45,309 --> 00:54:49,100 in the crowd at the airport, ready to take action. 1199 00:54:49,184 --> 00:54:52,142 [suspenseful music] 1200 00:54:52,225 --> 00:54:59,184 ♪ ♪ 1201 00:55:14,351 --> 00:55:17,809 You know, in a lot of cases, really bad things happen. 1202 00:55:17,893 --> 00:55:20,476 Things go wrong. They always do. 1203 00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:21,893 [country music] 1204 00:55:21,975 --> 00:55:26,434 - ♪ Called me by my name ♪ 1205 00:55:26,517 --> 00:55:30,351 ♪ Whoo! ♪ 1206 00:55:30,434 --> 00:55:32,267 [laughs] 1207 00:55:33,893 --> 00:55:36,851 [choir humming "America the Beautiful"] 1208 00:55:36,934 --> 00:55:43,893 ♪ ♪ 1209 00:56:29,267 --> 00:56:31,975 I didn't have a clue that they were onto this case. 1210 00:56:32,225 --> 00:56:33,017 Nothing. 1211 00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:34,434 ♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 1212 00:56:34,517 --> 00:56:36,017 CHRIS GRAHAM: The initial stage 1213 00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:38,851 was the indictment of the first eight. 1214 00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:42,768 The rest were scheduled to all go down at the same time. 1215 00:56:43,142 --> 00:56:45,643 I'm gonna get my guy before anybody else. 1216 00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:48,476 Then we mobilized quick. 1217 00:56:48,768 --> 00:56:50,225 Then I look out the door and see FBI. 1218 00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:51,975 DOUG MATHEWS: He was behind a fortress. 1219 00:56:52,059 --> 00:56:54,434 "Oh, God. I'm gonna ram this car through the-- 1220 00:56:54,517 --> 00:56:55,851 (LAUGHS) The front gate. 1221 00:56:56,225 --> 00:56:59,684 I ran and I kicked the door open. 1222 00:56:59,768 --> 00:57:01,392 (POLICE SIRENS WAILING) 1223 00:57:01,476 --> 00:57:04,142 DOUG: If anybody ever knew how close this was just to... 1224 00:57:05,643 --> 00:57:06,434 blowing up. 1225 00:57:06,517 --> 00:57:08,100 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 85300

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