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ISTIA IN AMENPOUR.

ISTIA IN AMENPOUR. >>> I LAST VISITED SHANGHAI IN

>>> I LAST VISITED SHANGHAI IN 1978 WHEN CHINA WAS TRULY

1978 WHEN CHINA WAS TRULY COMMUNIST AND LOVE WAS RESERVED

COMMUNIST AND LOVE WAS RESERVED FOR THE REVOLUTION.

FOR THE REVOLUTION. SEX WAS STRICTLY CONTROLLED.

SEX WAS STRICTLY CONTROLLED. CONFORMITY WAS THE OPIATE OF THE

CONFORMITY WAS THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES.

MASSES. TODAY IS ANOTHER UNIVERSE.

TODAY IS ANOTHER UNIVERSE. COMMUNISM MEETS CAPITALISM.

COMMUNISM MEETS CAPITALISM. ATTITUDES TO LOVE AND SEX ARE

ATTITUDES TO LOVE AND SEX ARE SHIFTING.

SHIFTING. BUT AS WITH EVERYTHING HERE,

BUT AS WITH EVERYTHING HERE, IT'S COMPLICATED.

>> IN SHANGHAI LAVISH PHOTO STUDIOS PROVIDE COSTUME

PHOTO STUDIOS PROVIDE COSTUME DESIGNER, MAKEUP ARTISTS,

DESIGNER, MAKEUP ARTISTS, PHOTOGRAPHERS AND FAIRY TALE

PHOTOGRAPHERS AND FAIRY TALE SETS TO HELP TURN EVERY COUPLE'S

SETS TO HELP TURN EVERY COUPLE'S FANTASY INTO REALITY.

>> FOR SOME COUPLES, THIS PHOTO SHOOT WILL BE THE BIGGEST

PHOTO SHOOT WILL BE THE BIGGEST LUXURY OF THEIR LIVES.

>> FOR YEARS, MARRIAGE AND RELATIONSHIPS HERE HAVE BEEN

RELATIONSHIPS HERE HAVE BEEN CONTROLLED BY THREE SACRED

CONTROLLED BY THREE SACRED PILLARS -- FAMILY, TRADITION,

PILLARS -- FAMILY, TRADITION, AND STATE.

AND STATE. I UH'M CURIOUS TO FIND OUT TO

I UH'M CURIOUS TO FIND OUT TO WHAT EXTENT PEOPLE ARE TAKING

WHAT EXTENT PEOPLE ARE TAKING BACK CONTROL OF THEIR

BACK CONTROL OF THEIR RELAT

RELAT RELATIONSHIPS, THEIR LOVE, THEIR

RELATIONSHIPS, THEIR LOVE, THEIR DESIRE, AND THEIR SEXUALITY.

DESIRE, AND THEIR SEXUALITY. >> UNDAUNTED BY CHINA'S

>> UNDAUNTED BY CHINA'S CONSERVATIVE VALUES.

>> SO THIS IS NORMAL FOR YOU? >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. >> THE MODELS ARE ALWAYS NUDE.

>> THE MODELS ARE ALWAYS NUDE. AND HIS PROVOCATIVE IMAGES

AND HIS PROVOCATIVE IMAGES EXPLORE VARYING FORMS OF SEXUAL

EXPLORE VARYING FORMS OF SEXUAL IDENTITY AND INTIMACY.

IDENTITY AND INTIMACY. >> THIS BIT LOOKS KIND OF SWEET.

>> THIS BIT LOOKS KIND OF SWEET. YOU DON'T MIND DOING THIS FOR

YOU DON'T MIND DOING THIS FOR THE WORLD TO SEE?

>> I SAT DOWN WITH CHAT WITH WANAMAL AND TWO OF HIS MUSES,

WANAMAL AND TWO OF HIS MUSES, WIFE SHIANG AND MODEL BLAIR.

WIFE SHIANG AND MODEL BLAIR. I ASKED YOUR TWO MODELS WHETHER

I ASKED YOUR TWO MODELS WHETHER THEY WERE IN LOVE.

THEY WERE IN LOVE. AND THEY SAID YES, THAT THEY'RE

AND THEY SAID YES, THAT THEY'RE PARTNERS.

PARTNERS. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR YOU,

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR YOU, INTIMACY.

>> SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT POSING NUDE FOR YOUR HUSBAND AND

POSING NUDE FOR YOUR HUSBAND AND FOR THE WORLD?

>> ONE OF THESE IS YOU, THOUGH. THIS IS YOU.

THIS IS YOU. >> YOU LOVE DOING THIS KIND OF

>> YOU LOVE DOING THIS KIND OF MODELING.

MODELING. >> I THINK FEMALE BODY IS AN

>> I THINK FEMALE BODY IS AN ART.

ART. >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR OWN PARENTS?

>> WHAT ABOUT YOUR OWN PARENTS? >> THEY DON'T KNOW.

>> THEY DON'T KNOW. >> THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BOOK?

>> THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BOOK? >> NO, NEVER.

>> NO, NEVER. AND I'M NEVER GOING TO TELL

AND I'M NEVER GOING TO TELL THEM.

THEM. >> WHY?

>> WHY? >> WELL, BECAUSE CHINA HAVE A

>> WELL, BECAUSE CHINA HAVE A REALLY CONSERVATIVE HISTORY,

REALLY CONSERVATIVE HISTORY, RIGHT?

RIGHT? AND ALL THE WOMEN ARE JUST VERY

AND ALL THE WOMEN ARE JUST VERY MENTALLY RESTRICTED.

MENTALLY RESTRICTED. MY PARENTS ARE, LIKE, THEY'RE

MY PARENTS ARE, LIKE, THEY'RE JUST REALLY, REALLY

JUST REALLY, REALLY CONSERVATIVE.

CONSERVATIVE. AND THEY THINK LIKE YOUR BODY IS

AND THEY THINK LIKE YOUR BODY IS NOT FOR YOUR TO SHOW OTHER

NOT FOR YOUR TO SHOW OTHER PEOPLE.

PEOPLE. AMENDMENT YOU CAN'T HAVE SEX

AMENDMENT YOU CAN'T HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE.

BEFORE MARRIAGE. I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER CHANGE

I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER CHANGE THEIR MIND.

THEIR MIND. >> WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM YOUR

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM YOUR PARTNER?

PARTNER? WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR A GUY?

WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR A GUY? >> FIRST HE HAS TO BE HANDSOME

>> FIRST HE HAS TO BE HANDSOME OR YOU CAN JUST NOT HAVE SEX

OR YOU CAN JUST NOT HAVE SEX WITH HIM.

WITH HIM. AND I THINK SIZE REALLY MATTERS,

AND I THINK SIZE REALLY MATTERS, TOO.

TOO. >> SIZE MATTERS.

>> SIZE MATTERS. DO YOU MEAN TALL?

DO YOU MEAN TALL? >> NO, I MEAN THE -- YEAH.

>> NO, I MEAN THE -- YEAH. WHAT YOU THINK IT IS, YEAH.

WHAT YOU THINK IT IS, YEAH. >> I SEE YOU TWO VERY INTIMATE

>> I SEE YOU TWO VERY INTIMATE AND WORK TOGETHER.

AND WORK TOGETHER. DOES THIS WORK HELP YOUR SEX

DOES THIS WORK HELP YOUR SEX LIFE?

>> GREAT BEAUTIFUL PARK. THE WHOLE VILLAGE IS FOLLOWING

THE WHOLE VILLAGE IS FOLLOWING US AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOU.

US AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOU. YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLY POPULAR

YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLY POPULAR PERSON.

PERSON. HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCH YOUR SHOW

HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCH YOUR SHOW EVERY WEEK?

EVERY WEEK? >> EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT, I

>> EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT, I THINK ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THINK ALL OVER THE WORLD. 150 MILLION CHINESE PEOPLE.

150 MILLION CHINESE PEOPLE. >> ALREADY RENOWNED AS A DANCER

>> ALREADY RENOWNED AS A DANCER AND CHOREOGRAPHER, SHE SHOT TO

AND CHOREOGRAPHER, SHE SHOT TO SUPERSTARDOM AS A TV

SUPERSTARDOM AS A TV PERSONALITY.

PERSONALITY. ONE OF THE PROGRAMS SHE HOSTS IS

ONE OF THE PROGRAMS SHE HOSTS IS A DATING SHOW WITH A TWIST.

A DATING SHOW WITH A TWIST. WHERE IT'S THE PARENTS WHO GET

WHERE IT'S THE PARENTS WHO GET TO CHOOSE DATES FOR THEIR

TO CHOOSE DATES FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

CHILDREN. HOW IMPORTANT IS IS IT FOR

HOW IMPORTANT IS IS IT FOR PARENTS TO ACTUALLY SEE THEIR

PARENTS TO ACTUALLY SEE THEIR CHILDREN MARRIED, TO MAKE THEIR

CHILDREN MARRIED, TO MAKE THEIR CHILDREN HAVE A HAPPY MATCH?

CHILDREN HAVE A HAPPY MATCH? >> CHINESE PEOPLE IDEA, HAPPY

>> CHINESE PEOPLE IDEA, HAPPY FAMILY IS A FOUR GENERATION

FAMILY IS A FOUR GENERATION UNDER ONE ROOF.

UNDER ONE ROOF. >> THIS SHOWS WHAT LENGTHS

>> THIS SHOWS WHAT LENGTHS PARENTS WILL GO TO TO FIND A

PARENTS WILL GO TO TO FIND A GOOD MATCH FOR THEIR CHILD.

GOOD MATCH FOR THEIR CHILD. >> LOOK.

>> LOOK. >> DO YOU SEE THE UMBRELLAS

>> DO YOU SEE THE UMBRELLAS HERE.

HERE. >> WHAT IS DOES THIS ONE?

>> WHAT IS DOES THIS ONE? >> A GIRL, BORN IN 1987.

>> A GIRL, BORN IN 1987. HEIGHT, 1 METERS 67.

HEIGHT, 1 METERS 67. WORKING FOR THE COMPANY, EVERY

WORKING FOR THE COMPANY, EVERY MONTH INCOME 10,000.

MONTH INCOME 10,000. >> Reporter: THIS IS A MARRIAGE

>> Reporter: THIS IS A MARRIAGE MARKET.

MARKET. THE IDEA IS A SHANGHAI

THE IDEA IS A SHANGHAI PHENOMENON THAT'S SPREAD ACROSS

PHENOMENON THAT'S SPREAD ACROSS CHINA WHERE PARENTS COME TO

CHINA WHERE PARENTS COME TO ADVERTISE NOT GOODS BUT THEIR

ADVERTISE NOT GOODS BUT THEIR CHILDREN.

CHILDREN. >> SO ALL THESE ELDERLY -- WELL,

>> SO ALL THESE ELDERLY -- WELL, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE AGE PEOPLE,

YOU KNOW, MIDDLE AGE PEOPLE, THEY ARE HERE TRYING TO SNARE A

THEY ARE HERE TRYING TO SNARE A MATCH FOR THEIR CHILD.

MATCH FOR THEIR CHILD. >> YES, YES.

>> YES, YES. >> FLIERS ARE PINNED TO

>> FLIERS ARE PINNED TO UMBRELLAS DETAILING EACH CHILD'S

UMBRELLAS DETAILING EACH CHILD'S BEST SELLING POINTS.

BEST SELLING POINTS. JOB, INCOME, EDUCATION.

JOB, INCOME, EDUCATION. MS. LU BORN IN 1984.

MS. LU BORN IN 1984. 1 METER 60 HEIGHT.

1 METER 60 HEIGHT. WORKING FOR THE FOREIGN COMPANY.

WORKING FOR THE FOREIGN COMPANY. AND SHE HAS HER OWN APARTMENT.

AND SHE HAS HER OWN APARTMENT. >> THAT'S MAJOR TO HAVE HER OWN

>> THAT'S MAJOR TO HAVE HER OWN APARTMENT.

APARTMENT. >> EXACTLY, A GIRL.

>> EXACTLY, A GIRL. HER REQUEST MUST BE

HER REQUEST MUST BE SHANGHAINESE.

SHANGHAINESE. MUST HAVE APARTMENT AND SAME

MUST HAVE APARTMENT AND SAME EDUCATION AND ONLY FIVE YEARS

EDUCATION AND ONLY FIVE YEARS ABOVE HER.

ABOVE HER. >> WHOA, THAT'S PRETTY PRECISE.

>> WHOA, THAT'S PRETTY PRECISE. SO SHE WANTS AN EDUCATED

SO SHE WANTS AN EDUCATED SHANGHAINESE AND FIVE YEARS

SHANGHAINESE AND FIVE YEARS OLDER AND SPECIFICALLY 10

OLDER AND SPECIFICALLY 10 CENTIMETERS HIGHER THAN HER.

CENTIMETERS HIGHER THAN HER. DO THE YOUNG PEOPLE KNOW THAT

DO THE YOUNG PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR PARENTS ARE DOING THIS?

THEIR PARENTS ARE DOING THIS? >> 80% HAVE NO IDEA.

>> 80% HAVE NO IDEA. MOST OF THE YOUNG KIDS, THEY

MOST OF THE YOUNG KIDS, THEY FEEL SHAME.

FEEL SHAME. >> DO THEY?

>> DO THEY? >> I NEED TO FIND MY OWN LOVE BY

>> I NEED TO FIND MY OWN LOVE BY MYSELF.

MYSELF. >> IT IS INCREDIBLE.

>> IT IS INCREDIBLE. >> AND ALSO THE REWARD.

>> AND ALSO THE REWARD. AS I'M GETTING OLDER, LOOKING

AS I'M GETTING OLDER, LOOKING AFTER ME.

AFTER ME. >> OH.

>> OH. >> NOTHING FOR FREE.

>> NOTHING FOR FREE. >> NO FREE LUNCH.

>> NO FREE LUNCH. NO FREE MARRIAGE.

NO FREE MARRIAGE. >> EXACTLY.

>> EXACTLY. >> IS AARON KING.

>> IS AARON KING. I'M A CONDUCTOR AND COMPOSER FOR

I'M A CONDUCTOR AND COMPOSER FOR THE RAINBOW CHAMBER SINGERS.

THE RAINBOW CHAMBER SINGERS. >> THE CHOIR BECAME FAMOUS FOR

>> THE CHOIR BECAME FAMOUS FOR ITS ORIGINAL AL COMPOSITION.

ITS ORIGINAL AL COMPOSITION. ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST HITS

ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST HITS HIGHLIGHTS THE PARENTAL PRESSURE

HIGHLIGHTS THE PARENTAL PRESSURE YOUNG PEOPLE FACE WHEN IT COMES

YOUNG PEOPLE FACE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR LOVE LIVES.

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A. >> SHANGHAINESE HAVE A

>> SHANGHAINESE HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BEING AMBITIOUS,

REPUTATION FOR BEING AMBITIOUS, SUCCESSFUL AND UNCOMPROMISING.

SUCCESSFUL AND UNCOMPROMISING. >> THE REASON I COME TO

>> THE REASON I COME TO SHANGHAI, IT'S ALL ABOUT MY

SHANGHAI, IT'S ALL ABOUT MY CAREER.

CAREER. TO FIND THE RIGHT LONG TERM

TO FIND THE RIGHT LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP PARTNER FOR ME.

RELATIONSHIP PARTNER FOR ME. IT'S VERY FAMILIAR TO FIND THE

IT'S VERY FAMILIAR TO FIND THE RIGHT CEO OR MANAGER IN THE

RIGHT CEO OR MANAGER IN THE FIRM.

FIRM. LOVE IS ACTUALLY A SCIENCE. YOU

LOVE IS ACTUALLY A SCIENCE. YOU HAVE TO LEARN THE THEORY, AND

HAVE TO LEARN THE THEORY, AND YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE.

YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE. FOR MY MOM, MY DAD IS HER FIRST

FOR MY MOM, MY DAD IS HER FIRST LOVE.

LOVE. THE STORY FOR ME IS INSANE.

THE STORY FOR ME IS INSANE. I WOULD NEVER MARRY SOMEONE WHO

I WOULD NEVER MARRY SOMEONE WHO IS MY FIRST LOVE.

IS MY FIRST LOVE. WITHOUT PRACTICING, HOW CAN WE

WITHOUT PRACTICING, HOW CAN WE FIND THE RIGHT ONE?

FIND THE RIGHT ONE? >> ALL THE CHINESE CULTURE, HE

>> ALL THE CHINESE CULTURE, HE SHOULD CONTROL HIS MOTION.

SHOULD CONTROL HIS MOTION. CONTROL HIS SEX DESIRE.

CONTROL HIS SEX DESIRE. I RECEIVED THE SAME EDUCATION.

I RECEIVED THE SAME EDUCATION. I'M JUST NOT A GOOD GIRL.

I'M JUST NOT A GOOD GIRL. IN CHINA, UNMARRIED WOMEN OVER

IN CHINA, UNMARRIED WOMEN OVER 27 ARE KNOWN AS SHANGWU, MEANING

27 ARE KNOWN AS SHANGWU, MEANING LEFTOVERS.

LEFTOVERS. WHILE UNMARRIED MEN, WANGWUN,

WHILE UNMARRIED MEN, WANGWUN, MEANING BARE BRANCHES.

MEANING BARE BRANCHES. WU DI AIMS TO DISSPELL THE

WU DI AIMS TO DISSPELL THE STIGMA AND HELP THESE YOUNG

STIGMA AND HELP THESE YOUNG SINGLETONS.

SINGLETONS. >> CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF

>> CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF RELATIONSHIP AND THE MARRIAGE.

RELATIONSHIP AND THE MARRIAGE. INTRODUCE NEW VOCABULARY TO

INTRODUCE NEW VOCABULARY TO THEM, SUCH AS EMOTION, INTIMACY,

THEM, SUCH AS EMOTION, INTIMACY, SEX, PLEASURE, BODY CONTACT.

>> THE DAY CAMP TAKES THE FORM OF WEEKLY SEMINARS, PRIVATE

OF WEEKLY SEMINARS, PRIVATE TUTORING IN EVERYTHING ON HOW TO

TUTORING IN EVERYTHING ON HOW TO FLIRT AND HOW TO DRESS FOR A

FLIRT AND HOW TO DRESS FOR A DATE.

DATE. I JOINED THE DATING GURU FOR A

I JOINED THE DATING GURU FOR A TUTORING SESSION AT A LOCAL

TUTORING SESSION AT A LOCAL BOUTIQUE WITH A COUPLE OF HER

BOUTIQUE WITH A COUPLE OF HER STUDENTS.

STUDENTS. 27-YEAR-OLD EVE AND 32-YEAR-OLD

27-YEAR-OLD EVE AND 32-YEAR-OLD STELLA.

STELLA. HAVE YOU EVER DATED?

HAVE YOU EVER DATED? >> YES, BUT MOST OF THE TIME ON

>> YES, BUT MOST OF THE TIME ON THE FIRST DATE, THE BOYS WILL

THE FIRST DATE, THE BOYS WILL NOT CONTACT WITH ME AGAIN.

NOT CONTACT WITH ME AGAIN. YES.

YES. >> TODAY'S MISSION IS WE WANT TO

>> TODAY'S MISSION IS WE WANT TO FIND A REALLY GOOD DRESS FOR THE

FIND A REALLY GOOD DRESS FOR THE DATE.

DATE. >> SO YOU THINK I HAVE A GOOD

>> SO YOU THINK I HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF GETTING A DATE?

CHANCE OF GETTING A DATE? >> YEAH, YEAH.

>> YEAH, YEAH. .

. >> I COULD OPEN IT MORE?

>> I COULD OPEN IT MORE? >> NO, NO, NO.

>> NO, NO, NO. THIS IS TOO MUCH?

THIS IS TOO MUCH? YOUR FACE, I MEAN, YOU LOOK

YOUR FACE, I MEAN, YOU LOOK HORRIFIED.

HORRIFIED. IT'S JUST A LITTLE BUTTON.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE BUTTON. >> WE ARE GOOD GIRL.

>> WE ARE GOOD GIRL. >> I TRY TO TRAIN THEM TO BE BAD

>> I TRY TO TRAIN THEM TO BE BAD GIRLS.

GIRLS. >> YES.

>> YES. >> I'M A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED.

>> I'M A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED. THEY NOT ONLY LOOK YOUNG, THEY

THEY NOT ONLY LOOK YOUNG, THEY ACT YOUNG.

ACT YOUNG. >> YES, YES.

>> YES, YES. >> WE WILL EDUCATE THEM.

>> WE WILL EDUCATE THEM. THEY HAVE VERY DECENT PAY.

THEY HAVE VERY DECENT PAY. >> REALLY?

>> REALLY? THEY'RE VERY NAIVE.

THEY'RE VERY NAIVE. >> UNFORTUNATELY, YES.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, YES. >> OH, LOOK, HERE THEY COME.

>> OH, LOOK, HERE THEY COME. >> WOW, THAT'S GODDESS.

>> WOW, THAT'S GODDESS. >> I WOULD ASK YOU GIRLS, DO YOU

>> I WOULD ASK YOU GIRLS, DO YOU THINK ABOUT ROMANTIC AND LOVE

THINK ABOUT ROMANTIC AND LOVE SATISFACTION?

SATISFACTION? DO YOU FEEL YOU'RE MISSING

DO YOU FEEL YOU'RE MISSING SOMETHING?

SOMETHING? >> YES.

>> YES. YES.

YES. EVERYONE TOLD US STUDY VERY HARD

EVERYONE TOLD US STUDY VERY HARD TO GO TO A VERY GOOD UNIVERSITY,

TO GO TO A VERY GOOD UNIVERSITY, TO GET A VERY GOOD JOB, BUT NO

TO GET A VERY GOOD JOB, BUT NO ONE TELL US THAT HOW TO HAVE

ONE TELL US THAT HOW TO HAVE VERY GOOD INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP

VERY GOOD INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BOYS.

WITH THE BOYS. >> HOW DID YOU GROW UP.

>> HOW DID YOU GROW UP. WHAT DID YOU SEE BETWEEN YOUR

WHAT DID YOU SEE BETWEEN YOUR PATIENTS?

PATIENTS? -- PARENTS?

-- PARENTS? >> JUST A NORMAL FAMILY?

>> JUST A NORMAL FAMILY? >> HUGGING, KISSING?

>> HUGGING, KISSING? >> NO, NO, NO!

>> NO, NO, NO! >> YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET KISSES

>> YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET KISSES FROM YOUR PARENTS?

FROM YOUR PARENTS? >> NEVER.

>> NEVER. >> NO KISS.

>> NO KISS. >> SOMETIMES FEEL VERY NERVOUS

>> SOMETIMES FEEL VERY NERVOUS TO HAVE THE BODY TOUCH.

TO HAVE THE BODY TOUCH. >> THE BODY CONTACT.

>> THE BODY CONTACT. >> AND HAVE YOU EVER HAD SEX?

>> AND HAVE YOU EVER HAD SEX? ARE YOU A VIRGIN?

ARE YOU A VIRGIN? >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. >> YOU'RE A VIRGIN?

>> YOU'RE A VIRGIN? >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. >> SO THAT'S THE LESSON WE LEARN

>> SO THAT'S THE LESSON WE LEARN FROM THE PARENTS, RIGHT?

FROM THE PARENTS, RIGHT? DON'T LET HIM THINK YOU ARE A

DON'T LET HIM THINK YOU ARE A NEEDY GIRL.

NEEDY GIRL. DON'T HAVE SEX WITH HIM BEFORE

DON'T HAVE SEX WITH HIM BEFORE THE ENGAGEMENT.

THE ENGAGEMENT. OTHERWISE HE WILL TREAT YOU AS A

OTHERWISE HE WILL TREAT YOU AS A BITCH.

BITCH. >> THE THOUGHT THAT THESE TWO

>> THE THOUGHT THAT THESE TWO YOUNG WOMEN HAD NEVER BEEN

YOUNG WOMEN HAD NEVER BEEN HUGGED OR KISSED WAS HEART

HUGGED OR KISSED WAS HEART BREAKING.

BREAKING. WHILE I WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE

WHILE I WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE WHAT WU DI WAS TRYING TO TEACH

WHAT WU DI WAS TRYING TO TEACH HER STUDENTS A WHOLE NEW SET OF

HER STUDENTS A WHOLE NEW SET OF RULES.

RULES. >> EMOTION IS THE NEW VOCABULARY

>> EMOTION IS THE NEW VOCABULARY FOR TODAY'S CHINESE.

FOR TODAY'S CHINESE. INTIMACY, BODY CONTACT, KISS.

INTIMACY, BODY CONTACT, KISS. FOR EXAMPLE, SEX.

FOR EXAMPLE, SEX. CAN WOMEN HAVE SEX ONLY FOR

CAN WOMEN HAVE SEX ONLY FOR PLEASURE?

PLEASURE? WELL, THAT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION.

WELL, THAT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION. I REALLY WANT TO HELP THEM TO

I REALLY WANT TO HELP THEM TO HAVE A BIG VISION OF THE WORLD.

HAVE A BIG VISION OF THE WORLD. THE FAMILY CONCEPT THAT I HAD

THE FAMILY CONCEPT THAT I HAD SINCE CHILDHOOD, FALLING IN

SINCE CHILDHOOD, FALLING IN LOVE, GETTING MARRIED, HAVE A

LOVE, GETTING MARRIED, HAVE A BABY, HAPPILY EVER AFTER IS

BABY, HAPPILY EVER AFTER IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO THE WAY

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TO THE WAY I AM NOW.

I AM NOW. I ACTUALLY HAD MY FIRST MARRIAGE

I ACTUALLY HAD MY FIRST MARRIAGE AND NOW I AM ON MY FOURTH

AND NOW I AM ON MY FOURTH MARRIAGE.

MARRIAGE. AND I HAVE TWO KIDS FROM TWO

AND I HAVE TWO KIDS FROM TWO DIFFERENT FATHERS.

DIFFERENT FATHERS. AND ALSO CONTINUOUSLY LIVING A

AND ALSO CONTINUOUSLY LIVING A WAY THAT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL

WAY THAT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL FAMILY.

FAMILY. MOTHER HOOD IS SOMETHING VERY

MOTHER HOOD IS SOMETHING VERY NEW.

NEW. I HAVEN'T LEARNED FROM MY

I HAVEN'T LEARNED FROM MY PARENTS.

PARENTS. THEY NEVER COME AND CUDDLE ME

THEY NEVER COME AND CUDDLE ME AND SAY I LOVE YOU.

AND SAY I LOVE YOU. EXPRESSION OF LOVE IS VERY

EXPRESSION OF LOVE IS VERY COMMITTED IN MOST CHINESE

COMMITTED IN MOST CHINESE FAMILY.

FAMILY. SO WITH MY KIDS I'M TRYING TO BE

SO WITH MY KIDS I'M TRYING TO BE VERY OPEN.

VERY OPEN. I'M TRYING TO SHOW THE MAXIMUM,

I'M TRYING TO SHOW THE MAXIMUM, MY UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.

MY UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. WITH MY DAUGHTER, I WANT TO GIVE

WITH MY DAUGHTER, I WANT TO GIVE HER THE COMFORT THAT SHE CAN

HER THE COMFORT THAT SHE CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT ANYTHING.

TALK TO ME ABOUT ANYTHING. WHENEVER SHE FEELS LIKE REALLY

WHENEVER SHE FEELS LIKE REALLY DOWN, SHE SAYS OH, MY GOD, I

DOWN, SHE SAYS OH, MY GOD, I FEEL LIKE IN I LOSE THIS

FEEL LIKE IN I LOSE THIS BOYFRIEND, I WOULD NEVER FIND

BOYFRIEND, I WOULD NEVER FIND ANY MAN.

ANY MAN. I SAID DON'T WORRY, I'VE HAD

I SAID DON'T WORRY, I'VE HAD ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OF THEM.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR OF THEM. IF IT'S NOT YOURS, IT'S NOT GOOD

IF IT'S NOT YOURS, IT'S NOT GOOD TO BE THERE.

TO BE THERE. AND IF IT'S YOURS, IT WILL STAY

AND IF IT'S YOURS, IT WILL STAY WITH YOU FOREVER.

WITH YOU FOREVER. >> I FIND THE CITY IS FULL OF

>> I FIND THE CITY IS FULL OF LIFE.

>> IN THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR CITY WHERE SOCIAL DYNAMICS ARE

CITY WHERE SOCIAL DYNAMICS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING AND URBAN

ALWAYS CHANGING AND URBAN ISOLATION IS GROWING, MANY

ISOLATION IS GROWING, MANY PEOPLE RETREAT ONLINE FOR A

PEOPLE RETREAT ONLINE FOR A PERSONAL CONNECTION.

PERSONAL CONNECTION. >> ME TEET SWEET CAKE ISN'T JUST

>> ME TEET SWEET CAKE ISN'T JUST LIVE STREAMING FOR THE LOVE OF

LIVE STREAMING FOR THE LOVE OF HER FANS.

HER FANS. THESE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE VERY

THESE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE VERY LUCRATIVE.

LUCRATIVE. HER FANS SHOW THEIR APPRECIATION

HER FANS SHOW THEIR APPRECIATION BY BUYING HER VIRTUAL GIFTS

BY BUYING HER VIRTUAL GIFTS WHICH TRANSLATE INTO HARD CASH

WHICH TRANSLATE INTO HARD CASH FOR PETITE SWEET CAKE.

FOR PETITE SWEET CAKE. LAST YEAR ALONE SHE EARNED OVER

LAST YEAR ALONE SHE EARNED OVER $300,000.

$300,000. .

. >> TNOW WOMEN START REALIZING

>> TNOW WOMEN START REALIZING WHAT SOCIAL NORMS ARE AVAILABLE

WHAT SOCIAL NORMS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE

TO THEM THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE TO THEM BEFORE.

TO THEM BEFORE. WOMEN DO HAVE A RIGHT TO EARN

WOMEN DO HAVE A RIGHT TO EARN THEIR OWN PATHWAY.

THEIR OWN PATHWAY. >> FOR A BIT OF R&R, I MEAT UP

>> FOR A BIT OF R&R, I MEAT UP WITH A WELL KNOWN VOICE IN THE

WITH A WELL KNOWN VOICE IN THE CHINESE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

CHINESE MUSIC INDUSTRY. IN CHINA, BEFORE SEX WAS

IN CHINA, BEFORE SEX WAS PERCEIVED AS SOMETHING YOU EVER

PERCEIVED AS SOMETHING YOU EVER TALK ABOUT IN PUBLIC.

TALK ABOUT IN PUBLIC. IT IS STILL NOT TALKED AMONGST

IT IS STILL NOT TALKED AMONGST PEOPLE --

PEOPLE -- >> POLITE COMPANY.

>> POLITE COMPANY. >> YES.

>> YES. >> BUT HELEN HAS NEVER BEEN ONE

>> BUT HELEN HAS NEVER BEEN ONE TO SHY AWAY FROM AN AWKWARD

TO SHY AWAY FROM AN AWKWARD CONVERSATION.

CONVERSATION. AND SHE'S PERHAPS BEST KNOWN AS

AND SHE'S PERHAPS BEST KNOWN AS THE FRONT WOMAN OF SEXY AND

THE FRONT WOMAN OF SEXY AND PROVOCATIVE INDY ROCK BAND.

PROVOCATIVE INDY ROCK BAND. >> ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS, ONE OF

>> ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS, ONE OF YOUR SONGS, BEAUTIFUL BOYS IS

YOUR SONGS, BEAUTIFUL BOYS IS ALL ABOUT THE IDEA OF SEX

ALL ABOUT THE IDEA OF SEX WORKERS, RIGHT?

WORKERS, RIGHT? >> YES.

>> YES. >> I WANTED TO HAVE A

>> I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT

CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ROLES IN SOCIETY THAT WE

ROLES IN SOCIETY THAT WE CONSIDER ROLES IN THE SEX TRADE.

CONSIDER ROLES IN THE SEX TRADE. A YOU HAVE LIKE THE KTV GIRL AND

A YOU HAVE LIKE THE KTV GIRL AND WE PORTRAY THE CHARACTER AS

WE PORTRAY THE CHARACTER AS HONESTLY AS WE CAN.

HONESTLY AS WE CAN. AND THEN AT THE END OF IT, WE

AND THEN AT THE END OF IT, WE REVEAL THAT IT'S A MAN.

REVEAL THAT IT'S A MAN. AND WE SHOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A

AND WE SHOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A LOVING MAN WITH A FAMILY.

LOVING MAN WITH A FAMILY. I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY COOL

I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY COOL PROJECT.

PROJECT. BECAUSE OF THE DEBATE IT STIRRED

BECAUSE OF THE DEBATE IT STIRRED UP.

UP. SOME PEOPLE SAY OH, IT'S

SOME PEOPLE SAY OH, IT'S DISGUSTING, ET CETERA, ET

DISGUSTING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

CETERA. CERTAIN PEOPLE WERE SAYING I WAS

CERTAIN PEOPLE WERE SAYING I WAS CRYING.

CRYING. LOOK WHAT THIS POOR MAN HAD TO

LOOK WHAT THIS POOR MAN HAD TO DO IN ORDER TO FEED HIS FAMILY.

DO IN ORDER TO FEED HIS FAMILY. BUT ONE THING THAT GOT ME WAS

BUT ONE THING THAT GOT ME WAS UNTIL THEY REALIZED IT WAS A

UNTIL THEY REALIZED IT WAS A MAN, OH, IT WAS JUST ANOTHER SEX

MAN, OH, IT WAS JUST ANOTHER SEX WORKER.

WORKER. >> SO THE WHOLE SEX WORKER TRADE

>> SO THE WHOLE SEX WORKER TRADE HAS BEEN VERY, VERY PREVALENT.

HAS BEEN VERY, VERY PREVALENT. >> HAS BEEN.

>> HAS BEEN. DEFINITELY GOING DOWN NOW

DEFINITELY GOING DOWN NOW OPINION.

OPINION. >> WHY IS THAT?

>> WHY IS THAT? >> JUST A DIFFERENT GENERATION.

>> JUST A DIFFERENT GENERATION. SOCIETY NO LONGER SEES IT AS

SOCIETY NO LONGER SEES IT AS BEING KOSHER.

BEING KOSHER. SECONDLY, THERE'S BEEN A

SECONDLY, THERE'S BEEN A CRACKDOWN ON THE SEX TRADE IN

CRACKDOWN ON THE SEX TRADE IN GENERAL.

GENERAL. SO THAT AVAILABILITY HAS GONE

SO THAT AVAILABILITY HAS GONE DOWN.

DOWN. THIRD, IT'S ECONOMICS.

THIRD, IT'S ECONOMICS. AS WOMEN BECOME THE PRIMARY

AS WOMEN BECOME THE PRIMARY EDUCATED GROUP IN CHINA, WHICH

EDUCATED GROUP IN CHINA, WHICH IS REMARKABLE.

IS REMARKABLE. >> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHOOSE

>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHOOSE THIS OPTION.

THIS OPTION. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN SHOWN THAT

DO UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN SHOWN THAT IT'S POSSIBLE.

>> I LOVE TO BE ON STAGE. I LOVE DANCING.

I LOVE DANCING. S

S JIN XING IS MY GIVEN NAME.

JIN XING IS MY GIVEN NAME. I HAD A VERY HAPPY CHILDHOOD

I HAD A VERY HAPPY CHILDHOOD WITH MY PARENTS.

WITH MY PARENTS. BUT I'M STILL A BIT DOUBTING WHO

BUT I'M STILL A BIT DOUBTING WHO AM I.

AM I. SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH ME.

SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH ME. I CANNOT LIVE MY LIFE WITH MASK.

I CANNOT LIVE MY LIFE WITH MASK. I ONLY LIVE ONCE, I WANT TO BE

I ONLY LIVE ONCE, I WANT TO BE MYSELF.

MYSELF. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S IT. YOU DON'T KNOW THIS WOMAN.

YOU DON'T KNOW THIS WOMAN. BECAUSE BIOLOGICALLY, I BORN AS

BECAUSE BIOLOGICALLY, I BORN AS A BOY.

A BOY. >> SO YOU WERE A MAN?

>> SO YOU WERE A MAN? >> YES.

>> YES. I WAS A MAN UP TO 6 OR 7 YEARS

I WAS A MAN UP TO 6 OR 7 YEARS OLD, I KNOW I SHOULD BE A GIRL

OLD, I KNOW I SHOULD BE A GIRL LIKE MY SISTER.

LIKE MY SISTER. I HAVE AN OLDER SISTER.

I HAVE AN OLDER SISTER. I SAY OKAY, I SHOULD BE LIKE

I SAY OKAY, I SHOULD BE LIKE HER, I DON'T KNOW HOW WHERE THE

HER, I DON'T KNOW HOW WHERE THE THINKING COMES FROM.

THINKING COMES FROM. I JUST KEEP THIS LITTLE THINKING

I JUST KEEP THIS LITTLE THINKING INTO MY HEART.

INTO MY HEART. OF COURSE, AFTER I BECOME A

OF COURSE, AFTER I BECOME A DANCER, I DID MORE AND MORE

DANCER, I DID MORE AND MORE DISCOVER MYSELF, I SHOULD BE A

DISCOVER MYSELF, I SHOULD BE A GIRL.

GIRL. >> BUT AS A 9-YEAR-OLD BOY IN

>> BUT AS A 9-YEAR-OLD BOY IN THE 1970s, JIN XING WAS ADMITTED

THE 1970s, JIN XING WAS ADMITTED TO THE CHINESE PEOPLE'S

TO THE CHINESE PEOPLE'S LIBERATION ARMY.

LIBERATION ARMY. IT WAS ONLY IN 1995 THAT J

IT WAS ONLY IN 1995 THAT J JIN XING FINALLY DECIDED TO

JIN XING FINALLY DECIDED TO FULFILL HER INNERMOST DESIRES.

FULFILL HER INNERMOST DESIRES. YOU TRANSITIONED AT 27.

YOU TRANSITIONED AT 27. HOMOSEXUALITY WAS CONSIDERED A

HOMOSEXUALITY WAS CONSIDERED A MENTAL ILLNESS.

MENTAL ILLNESS. TRANSGENDER WAS NEVER TALKED

TRANSGENDER WAS NEVER TALKED ABOUT.

ABOUT. >> WE NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT IT

>> WE NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT IT IN CHINA.

IN CHINA. >> YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A NAME

>> YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A NAME FOR IT.

FOR IT. >> NO, NO.

>> NO, NO. >> WAS IT SCARY, THOUGH?

>> WAS IT SCARY, THOUGH? LET'S FACE IT.

LET'S FACE IT. CHINA WASN'T KNOWN FOR ITS

CHINA WASN'T KNOWN FOR ITS TRANSGENDER SURGERY, SEXUAL

TRANSGENDER SURGERY, SEXUAL REASSIGNMENT.

REASSIGNMENT. DID YOU KNOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE

DID YOU KNOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS SAFELY HERE?

TO DO THIS SAFELY HERE? >> I WAS THE FIRST CASE.

>> I WAS THE FIRST CASE. I GAMBLING WITH MYSELF.

I GAMBLING WITH MYSELF. 50% I LEAVE TO THE DOCTOR.

50% I LEAVE TO THE DOCTOR. 50% WAS INSIDE.

50% WAS INSIDE. >> WAS IT DIFFICULT?

>> WAS IT DIFFICULT? >> I'M A DANCER.

>> I'M A DANCER. I CAN BEAR A LOT OF PHYSICAL

I CAN BEAR A LOT OF PHYSICAL PAIN.

PAIN. BUT I THINK MOST DIFFICULT IS

BUT I THINK MOST DIFFICULT IS PSYCHOLOGICALLY.

PSYCHOLOGICALLY. FACING SOCIETY.

FACING SOCIETY. THAT'S NEW CHALLENGE.

THAT'S NEW CHALLENGE. BUT MY SOUL, MY BODY BECOME ONE.

BUT MY SOUL, MY BODY BECOME ONE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT. >> WHERE DOES SEXUALITY -- HOW

>> WHERE DOES SEXUALITY -- HOW DOES IT FIT INTO THIS VERY

DOES IT FIT INTO THIS VERY TRADITIONAL CULTURE?

TRADITIONAL CULTURE? >> I THINK CHINESE CULTURE HAS A

>> I THINK CHINESE CULTURE HAS A LOT OF SPACE FOR TOLERANCE.

LOT OF SPACE FOR TOLERANCE. BUT WE JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT WE JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. THAT'S BIG THING CHINESE AND

THAT'S BIG THING CHINESE AND WESTERN.

WESTERN. WESTERN LOVE TO LABELIZE

WESTERN LOVE TO LABELIZE EVERYTHING.

EVERYTHING. SOME THINGS IN LIVES YOU CAN NOT

SOME THINGS IN LIVES YOU CAN NOT EXPLAIN.

EXPLAIN. JUST LET IT BE.

JUST LET IT BE. IC I FOLLOW MY HEART.

IC I FOLLOW MY HEART. >> SO TELL ME ABOUT MATTERS OF

>> SO TELL ME ABOUT MATTERS OF THE HEART.

THE HEART. YOU'RE MARRIED.

YOU'RE MARRIED. >> YES.

>> YES. >> TO A GERMAN CITIZEN.

>> TO A GERMAN CITIZEN. >> YES.

>> YES. >> HOW DID YOU FALL IN LOVE?

>> HOW DID YOU FALL IN LOVE? >> AT THAT TIME HE HAVE NO IDEA

>> AT THAT TIME HE HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM.

WHO I AM. HE ONLY KNOW I'M A DANCER.

HE ONLY KNOW I'M A DANCER. SO I TELL ALL MY STORY, I WAS

SO I TELL ALL MY STORY, I WAS MAN, I WAS TRANSGENDER.

MAN, I WAS TRANSGENDER. THIS WOMAN IS A HUGE PACKAGE.

THIS WOMAN IS A HUGE PACKAGE. HE H ECOMPLETELY BROKE AWAY.

HE H ECOMPLETELY BROKE AWAY. AFTER ONE DAY HE COME BACK.

AFTER ONE DAY HE COME BACK. YES, I STILL WANT TO DATE YOU.

YES, I STILL WANT TO DATE YOU. 2005 WE MARRIED.

2005 WE MARRIED. MY PERSONAL OPINIONS, LOVE AND

MY PERSONAL OPINIONS, LOVE AND MARRIAGE IS SEPARATE THINGS.

MARRIAGE IS SEPARATE THINGS. MAYBE WESTERN THINGS WE BECOME

MAYBE WESTERN THINGS WE BECOME LOVE SO MUCH WE MARRY.

LOVE SO MUCH WE MARRY. BUT IN CHINA, LOVE IS LOVE.

BUT IN CHINA, LOVE IS LOVE. MARRIAGE IS ANOTHER ISSUE.

MARRIAGE IS ANOTHER ISSUE. MARRIAGE, TWO PEOPLE MUST BE

MARRIAGE, TWO PEOPLE MUST BE WORKING TOGETHER.

WORKING TOGETHER. >> THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A JOB.

>> THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A JOB. >> IT IS.

>> IT IS. >> DO YOU HAVE A GOOD SEX LIFE?

>> DO YOU HAVE A GOOD SEX LIFE? >> VERY GOOD.

>> VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD. MY HUSBAND ONCE TOLD ME, I'M A

MY HUSBAND ONCE TOLD ME, I'M A VERY HAPPY.

VERY HAPPY. I'M STILL ATTRACTED BY YOU.

I'M STILL ATTRACTED BY YOU. I SAID GOOD.

I SAID GOOD. COME ON.

COME ON. YOU NEED TO TALK.

YOU NEED TO TALK. SO WE LAUGHING ABOUT IT.

SO WE LAUGHING ABOUT IT. >> ARE THERE MANY WOMEN PUBLIC

>> ARE THERE MANY WOMEN PUBLIC WOMEN LIKE YOU IN CHINA WHO ARE

WOMEN LIKE YOU IN CHINA WHO ARE AS SASSY, WHO ARE WILLING TO

AS SASSY, WHO ARE WILLING TO PUSH THE BOUNDARIES AND TALK AS

PUSH THE BOUNDARIES AND TALK AS BLUNTRY AS YOU DO?

BLUNTRY AS YOU DO? >> SHANGHAI IS FAMOUS FOR THAT.

>> SHANGHAI IS FAMOUS FOR THAT. MAKE YOUR LIFE, YOU WANT IT AND

MAKE YOUR LIFE, YOU WANT IT AND YOU GO FOR IT.

>> THE TRADITION OF CHINESE LOVE IS ABOUT SACRIFICE.

IS ABOUT SACRIFICE. IN CHINA, SOMETHING IS LUXURY.

IN CHINA, SOMETHING IS LUXURY. FAMILY IS SO MUCH MORE

FAMILY IS SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.

IMPORTANT. AND HAPPINESS IS SOMETHING NOT

AND HAPPINESS IS SOMETHING NOT 100% NECESSARY.

100% NECESSARY. I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO KNOW

I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO KNOW HOW TO LOVE, YOU HAVE TO LOVE

HOW TO LOVE, YOU HAVE TO LOVE YOURSELF FIRST.

YOURSELF FIRST. THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE.

>> WHAT DO YOU LOVE ABOUT ANGE A .

. >>> ONLY ONE.

>>> ONLY ONE. >>> HOMOSEXUALITY WAS ONLY

>>> HOMOSEXUALITY WAS ONLY DECRIMINALIZED RECENTLY AROUND

DECRIMINALIZED RECENTLY AROUND HERE, WHAT IS HARDER TO OVERCOME

HERE, WHAT IS HARDER TO OVERCOME IS THE JUDGMENT OF THEIR

IS THE JUDGMENT OF THEIR FAMILIES.

FAMILIES. >> YOU DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL YOU

>> YOU DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL YOU WERE 31?

WERE 31? >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. >> WHAT WAS YOUR MOTHER AND

>> WHAT WAS YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER THINKING?

FATHER THINKING? IN CHINA, IT'S OLD FOR A GIRL

IN CHINA, IT'S OLD FOR A GIRL NOT TO BE MARRIED.

NOT TO BE MARRIED. >> OH, I WAS MARRIED.

>> OH, I WAS MARRIED. >> YOU WERE MARRIED?

>> YOU WERE MARRIED? >> YES, THAT IS FAMOUS IN

>> YES, THAT IS FAMOUS IN CHINESE HOMOSEXUAL SOCIETY, THIS

CHINESE HOMOSEXUAL SOCIETY, THIS IS THE WAY WE HELP EACH OTHER.

IS THE WAY WE HELP EACH OTHER. IT'S A CONVENIENCE.

IT'S A CONVENIENCE. TO BE CLEAR, YOU GOT MARRIED TO

TO BE CLEAR, YOU GOT MARRIED TO KIND OF DIVERT YOUR PARENTS'

KIND OF DIVERT YOUR PARENTS' ATTENTION?

ATTENTION? >> YEAH, I WAS UNDER A LOT OF

>> YEAH, I WAS UNDER A LOT OF STRESS AND PRESSURE AS THE ONLY

STRESS AND PRESSURE AS THE ONLY CHILD, MY DAD WAS ALSO DYING AT

CHILD, MY DAD WAS ALSO DYING AT THE TIME.

THE TIME. BUT I KNEW MY PARENTS WISH WAS

BUT I KNEW MY PARENTS WISH WAS FOR ME TO GET MARRIED --

FOR ME TO GET MARRIED -- >> AND HAVE A BABY.

>> AND HAVE A BABY. >> THAT IS SO HARD.

>> THAT IS SO HARD. >> YES, THIS MARRIAGE WAS SO

>> YES, THIS MARRIAGE WAS SO MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN I

MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN I THOUGHT.

THOUGHT. >> SO WHAT HAPPENED?

>> SO WHAT HAPPENED? >> WE HAVE BEEN DATING FOR FOUR

>> WE HAVE BEEN DATING FOR FOUR YEARS.

YEARS. I THOUGHT, SHE WAS REALLY THE

I THOUGHT, SHE WAS REALLY THE LOVE OF MY LIFE.

LOVE OF MY LIFE. I COULDN'T CONTINUE A LIFE WITH

I COULDN'T CONTINUE A LIFE WITH ALL THE LIES.

ALL THE LIES. SO I IS DECIDED TO END THE

SO I IS DECIDED TO END THE MARRIAGE.

MARRIAGE. >> SO WHAT DID YOU TELL YOUR

>> SO WHAT DID YOU TELL YOUR MOTHER?

MOTHER? >> BASICALLY THAT I WAS BORN

>> BASICALLY THAT I WAS BORN LIKE THIS AND IT WAS NOBODY'S

LIKE THIS AND IT WAS NOBODY'S FAULT AND THERE WAS NOTHING

FAULT AND THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME.

WRONG WITH ME. MY OWN MOTHER SHOULD BE ABLE TO

MY OWN MOTHER SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCEPT ME AT THE END OF THE DAY.

ACCEPT ME AT THE END OF THE DAY. >> AND DID SHE?

>> AND DID SHE? >> SHE DID AFTER 4-1/2 YEARS.

>> SHE DID AFTER 4-1/2 YEARS. >> WHAT?

>> WHAT? >> HE SH CAME AROUND AND

>> HE SH CAME AROUND AND ACCEPTED US LAST YEAR.

ACCEPTED US LAST YEAR. >> REALLY?

>> REALLY? >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. YEAH.

YEAH. YOU TWO HAVE STRUGGLED MIGHTILY

YOU TWO HAVE STRUGGLED MIGHTILY TO BE IN LOVE AND TO BE

TO BE IN LOVE AND TO BE TOGETHER.

TOGETHER. HOW IMPORTANT HAS YOUR INNER

HOW IMPORTANT HAS YOUR INNER LIFE BEEN TO YOU, YOUR EMOTIONAL

LIFE BEEN TO YOU, YOUR EMOTIONAL LIFE, YOUR SEXUAL SATISFACTION?

LIFE, YOUR SEXUAL SATISFACTION? >> I FEEL QUITE SATISFIED ON ALL

>> I FEEL QUITE SATISFIED ON ALL LEVELS IF OUR RELATIONSHIP.

LEVELS IF OUR RELATIONSHIP. EMOTIONALLY, AND SEXUALLY.

EMOTIONALLY, AND SEXUALLY. AND WE SHARE THE SAME SHOES.

AND WE SHARE THE SAME SHOES. >> HA!

>> HA! I LIKE IT.

I LIKE IT. >> YES.

♪ ♪ >>> WHAT WOULD CONFUCIOUS MAKE

>>> WHAT WOULD CONFUCIOUS MAKE OF A MODERN SHANGHAI FAMILY?

OF A MODERN SHANGHAI FAMILY? HE IS ONE OF CHINA'S BEST KNOWN

HE IS ONE OF CHINA'S BEST KNOWN ARTISTS.

ARTISTS. HE INVITED IN HE TO MEET HIS

HE INVITED IN HE TO MEET HIS FAMILY.

FAMILY. WIFE AND FELLOW ARTIST AND SON

WIFE AND FELLOW ARTIST AND SON SEAN.

SEAN. >> WHAT IS THE CONCEPT OF RO

>> WHAT IS THE CONCEPT OF RO LOVE AND PARTNERSHIP IN CHINA,

LOVE AND PARTNERSHIP IN CHINA, ESPECIALLY IN SHANGHAI TODAY?

ESPECIALLY IN SHANGHAI TODAY? >> WESTERN PEOPLE SHOW LOVE EACH

>> WESTERN PEOPLE SHOW LOVE EACH OTHER.

OTHER. LIKE IN THE MOVIES WE SEE.

LIKE IN THE MOVIES WE SEE. YOU KNOW.

YOU KNOW. CHINESE PEOPLE NOT REALLY KISS

CHINESE PEOPLE NOT REALLY KISS IN THE PUBLIC.

IN THE PUBLIC. >> DO YOU GUYS KISS IN PUBLIC?

>> DO YOU GUYS KISS IN PUBLIC? >> NO.

>> NO. >> YOU ARE CHINESE PEOPLE.

>> YOU ARE CHINESE PEOPLE. >> BUT WE LOVE EACH OTHER.

>> BUT WE LOVE EACH OTHER. THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S TRUE. >> SO WHEN HE DECLARED HIS LOVE

>> SO WHEN HE DECLARED HIS LOVE FOR YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

FOR YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> I JUST MAKE UP A JOKE.

>> I JUST MAKE UP A JOKE. I SAY, LIAR, LIAR.

I SAY, LIAR, LIAR. >> I ALWAYS TELL HER, I'M NOT

>> I ALWAYS TELL HER, I'M NOT LIAR.

LIAR. WE LOVE MORE THAN 25 YEARS.

WE LOVE MORE THAN 25 YEARS. SO, THIS, BELIEVE ME, I REALLY

SO, THIS, BELIEVE ME, I REALLY LOVE YOU.

LOVE YOU. >> SO HE HAS BEEN SAYING HE IS

>> SO HE HAS BEEN SAYING HE IS NOT PRETENDING.

NOT PRETENDING. WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEAR

WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR PARENTS DECLARE THAT --

YOUR PARENTS DECLARE THAT -- >> I HAVE NOT HEARD IT.

>> I HAVE NOT HEARD IT. THEY RARELY TALK ABOUT STUFF.

THEY RARELY TALK ABOUT STUFF. I MEAN, LIKE THE EMOTIONAL SIDE

I MEAN, LIKE THE EMOTIONAL SIDE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP.

OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. >> ARE YOU BLUSHING?

>> ARE YOU BLUSHING? >> NO, I'M NOT.

>> NO, I'M NOT. I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE CONFUSED

I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE CONFUSED AT THIS WHOLE -- I THINK IT'S

AT THIS WHOLE -- I THINK IT'S THE CONVENTIONAL WAY IN CHINA IS

THE CONVENTIONAL WAY IN CHINA IS THAT THE CHILD TENDS TO FEEL A

THAT THE CHILD TENDS TO FEEL A NEED TO KEEP TO THEMSELVES ABOUT

NEED TO KEEP TO THEMSELVES ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.

THINGS LIKE THAT. EXCEPT IN MY FAMILY, BECAUSE I

EXCEPT IN MY FAMILY, BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE MORE OPEN ABOUT

THINK WE ARE MORE OPEN ABOUT THINGS.

THINGS. >> WHAT DO YOU SHARE?

>> WHAT DO YOU SHARE? >> ANY SORT OF CLOSE INTIMACY I

>> ANY SORT OF CLOSE INTIMACY I HAVE HAD.

HAVE HAD. I TEND TO FEEL HAPPIER IF I'M

I TEND TO FEEL HAPPIER IF I'M DOING WELL IN THAT REGARD.

DOING WELL IN THAT REGARD. >> I'M VERY HAPPY THAT HE CAN

>> I'M VERY HAPPY THAT HE CAN TALK EVERYTHING TO US.

TALK EVERYTHING TO US. I THINK I'M VERY LUCKY.

I THINK I'M VERY LUCKY. >> THAT IS VERY LUCKY, ACTUALLY,

>> THAT IS VERY LUCKY, ACTUALLY, ESPECIALLY TO HAVE YOUR SON TALK

ESPECIALLY TO HAVE YOUR SON TALK TO YOU AS A MOM ABOUT INTIMATE

TO YOU AS A MOM ABOUT INTIMATE THINGS.

THINGS. YOU DON'T JUDGE?

YOU DON'T JUDGE? >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. YEAH.

YEAH. >> I THINK SHE GUIDES US ALONG.

>> I THINK SHE GUIDES US ALONG. >> MY FAMILY, THE CHILDREN AND

>> MY FAMILY, THE CHILDREN AND THE NAME, AND EVERYTHING,

THE NAME, AND EVERYTHING, CHANGING -- SHE WAS MY BOSS.

CHANGING -- SHE WAS MY BOSS. REALLY.

REALLY. I JUST FOCUS ON MY ART.

I JUST FOCUS ON MY ART. >> THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.

>> THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. >> YEAH, I JUST FOCUS ON MY ART.

>>> SHANGHAI IS A CITY THAT IS CHARGING IN TO THE FUTURE.

CHARGING IN TO THE FUTURE. WHILE STILL DEVOTED TO ANCIENT

WHILE STILL DEVOTED TO ANCIENT TRADITIONS.

TRADITIONS. ATTITUDES TO LOVE AND SEX HAVE

ATTITUDES TO LOVE AND SEX HAVE CERTAINLY COME A LONG WAY SINCE

CERTAINLY COME A LONG WAY SINCE THE DAYS OF PAST, AND WHILE

THE DAYS OF PAST, AND WHILE THERE'S A MORALE RIGIDITY TO

THERE'S A MORALE RIGIDITY TO SOCIETY, THERE'S A FLUIDITY TO

SOCIETY, THERE'S A FLUIDITY TO THE PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE. AS THEY NAVIGATE THEIR COMPLEX

AS THEY NAVIGATE THEIR COMPLEX AND EVER CHANGING ENVIRONMENT,

AND EVER CHANGING ENVIRONMENT, FINDING THEIR OWN PATHS TO SELF

FINDING THEIR OWN PATHS TO SELF EXPRESSION.