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KDR 96.6.
It's busy on the streets
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as you make your way home
to your loved ones
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but let me get you in the moody
smooth with Philadelphia's own,
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Mr. Teddy Pendergrass.
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♪ Close the door ♪
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♪ Let me give you
what you've been waiting for ♪
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♪ Baby,
I got so much love to give ♪
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♪ And I wanna
give it all to you ♪
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♪ Do-do-do do-do ♪
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♪ Close the door ♪
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♪ No need to worry no more ♪
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♪ Let's bring this day
to a pleasant end ♪
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♪ Girl, it's me and you now ♪
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♪ I've waited all day long ♪
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♪ Just to hold you gently
in my loving arms ♪
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♪ And it's exactly
like I thought it would be ♪
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♪ Me loving you
and you loving me ♪
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♪ Loving me ♪
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♪ Love ♪
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♪ Close the door, baby... ♪
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♪ If you don't know me by now ♪
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♪ You will
never, never, never know me ♪
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♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh ♪
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♪ All the things
that we've been through ♪
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♪ You should understand me ♪
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♪ Like I understand you ♪
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♪ Now, baby,
I know the difference ♪
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♪ Between right and wrong ♪
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♪ I ain't gonna do nothing ♪
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♪ To upset our happy home ♪
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♪ Oh ♪
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♪ Oh, don't get so excited ♪
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♪ When I come home
a little late at night ♪
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♪ 'Cause we only act
like children ♪
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♪ When we argue,
fuss and fight ♪
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♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
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You were talking
about Philadelphia, where you
came from.
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Oh, my God. Filthydelphia,
that's we call it.
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But I love it.
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When you go back now
as superstars in your world.
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I'm serious. Anybody that has
as many hit records as you have.
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How are the cats on the corner,
the neighborhood?
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Now that's a trip.
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There's different cats now
in the neighborhood.
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When I was growing up,
I used to run the neighborhood.
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I was the biggest jitterbug.
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Now you got guys just 16, 17.
They don't care about me.
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You know, I say, "I used to run
this neighborhood."
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- They say, "You used to."
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I cannot move my mother
out of the ghetto.
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I try and I say,
"Mamma, move." "No. Mm-mm."
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I became pregnant,
and I lost it
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and then again
and again and again.
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And every time I became
pregnant, I would lose it.
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Until I become
pregnant with Teddy.
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He was the seventh
but he was the first birth.
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My husband walked away.
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And I was left
to raise a son all by myself.
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What I'd like to do is
start from the very beginning
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and just kind of talk
from childhood,
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just kinda go through
my life, you know.
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The Mighty Mother Fuckers.
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And these guys were terrorists.
If they couldn't get you,
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they would come to your house
and get your family.
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It was a tough neighborhood.
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You either had to be
predator or prey.
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It was tough going to schools.
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It was just tough
trying to be...
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on the right side of things.
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♪ Do you wanna party,
do you wanna dance? ♪
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Teddy had the bottom mouth,
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talked a lot of trash.
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He said,
"I'm gonna be famous one day
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and I'm gonna hire you
as my bodyguard."
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I looked at him.
"Get away from me! Shut up!
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Been watching too many movies!"
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♪ Feel like a bird in the air ♪
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♪ Come on, get up ♪
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♪ Get up, get down,
get funky, get loose ♪
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Teddy Pendergrass,
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one of the most popular singers
in all of pop music.
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He doesn't like labels like
soul or R&B or rock 'n' roll
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but the one label that's
undeniable is that of superstar.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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You were ordained
at the age of ten.
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- Yes.
- Are you still a minister?
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Uh, in some ways,
I am still spreading the word.
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♪ Come by here ♪
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♪ O Lord ♪
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♪ Come by here ♪
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In church, in black
churches,
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the major thing
is being able to stand up
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in front of a group of people
and move them.
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I mean, so much so
until they feel the spirit,
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as the spirit is
to whatever your belief is.
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And that training,
and that experience,
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I accredit it
to what I'm doing today.
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♪ It was nothing but the blood ♪
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♪ Of Jesus ♪
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- ♪ Hallelujah! ♪
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First time they called
that little baby boy to sing,
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we were sitting on our pew.
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I got up and stood him
on a chair
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because he was so little.
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Everybody could see him
and he started singing
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"If I Could Write
A Letter To Heaven."
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And he couldn't hear my voice.
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He stopped, and looked up at me
and he said,
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"Sing, Mother, sing,"
and then he kept on singing.
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When he finished, the applause.
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You have no idea how I felt.
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The joy, to see my baby.
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Ooh!
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The New Testament says repent.
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It is time
for America to repent now.
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The promises
of the great society
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have been shot down
on the battlefields of Vietnam.
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We were taking
the black young men
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who had been crippled
by society.
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Sending them 8,000 miles away,
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to guarantee liberties
in Southeast Asia
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which they had not found
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in Southwest Georgia
and East Harlem.
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♪ My heart is crying, crying ♪
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♪ The lonely teardrops ♪
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♪ My pillow's never dry
of lonely teardrops ♪
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♪ Just give me another chance ♪
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Jackie Wilson had such
a command of the audience
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and get people to do things,
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women throwing underwear up
on stage and those type things.
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And that fascinated him.
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Years later,
he's getting the same thing.
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I mean, people would throw all
types of things on the stage.
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♪ Say that you... ♪
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We used to just sneak
inside the Uptown Theater
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and we'd just watch everybody.
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- ♪ Shoo doo, shoo doo-wop ♪
- Teddy and me,
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and we started out
singing on a corner.
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We were doing
high school together
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and that's when we got put out.
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They moved us out of school
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'cause we was cutting class
and singing and drinking wine
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and our parents
didn't know that.
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The most important thing
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about any particular city
that has music talent,
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it really
just boils down to community.
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Philadelphia
is one of those towns
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in which people stick together,
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so a lot of song writers,
a lot of musicians,
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um, kinda work with each other
and network with each other,
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and collaborate with each other.
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That's what makes
Philadelphia special.
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This gentleman is Kenny Gamble.
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Over here is Leon Huff
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and the gentleman in the middle
is Joe Tarsier.
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This is perhaps the happiest
triumvirate you'll ever meet.
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The recordings these guys
have made together
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are played on every radio
and television station
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in the world.
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That famous Philadelphia sound
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could not have reached the
level of prominence it enjoys
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without the mighty Blue Notes.
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Harold Melvin was a genius.
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He probably could take me and
Huff, make us the Blue Notes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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♪ If you don't know me by now ♪
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Harold Melvin
was the person who found Teddy.
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Huff called me up and said,
"Man, you gotta hear this guy."
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Teddy's voice rang out
over all the background.
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It just stuck out.
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Tried him on a song,
"I Miss You." And um...
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I said, "Gamble, this guy,
he sounds great," you know.
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I was really high on him.
Really excited about him.
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"I Miss You",
that was our first record
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and we got in the studio
and started like doing...
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You know.
"That's it! That's it!"
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♪ Ooh ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Oh, oh ♪
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- ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
- ♪ Oh ♪
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♪ I miss you, baby ♪
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Not only was he good-looking
but he had a presence
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and uh... and uh...
he had a special voice.
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♪ Ah ♪
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♪ 'Cause ever since
the day you left ♪
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♪ I don't know
what to do with myself ♪
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♪ Oh, I wish for your return ♪
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- ♪ And, oh, how I yearn ♪
- ♪ How I yearn ♪
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- ♪ 'Cause I ♪
- ♪ Oh, I ♪
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♪ Oh, I ♪
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That was our first tune.
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He came out with,
"Ladies and gentlemen,
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'I Miss You' from Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes,"
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and everybody was like,
"What the hell is going on?"
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It's the Blue Notes.
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But Harold,
he put his name on the front,
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without us knowing it.
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With guest stars
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Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes.
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Harold told Gamble and Huff
it was all right with the guys.
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You know, he lied to Gamble.
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Harold wanted to have
his identity a bit more
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because Teddy
was so dominating
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that people thought that he was
the leader of the group
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and Harold
was the leader of the group.
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We said let's rename it Harold
Melvin and the Blue Notes.
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But at that particular time
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we were so happy
to be out there,
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we didn't know
later on down the line
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it was gonna bite us
in the butt.
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I was on the radio
in Washington DC
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when I first heard Teddy
and played his music.
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Many people thought those vocals
belonged to Harold
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when they in fact were Teddy.
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Harold did sing some leads but
the big hits belonged to Teddy,
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so I didn't know
if Teddy was Harold Melvin
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or Harold Melvin was Teddy.
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I just thought
that Harold Melvin
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was the lead of this band.
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I couldn't piece together
that it wasn't Harold Melvin
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singing those songs,
that it was Teddy Pendergrass.
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Harold's success came from
the mouth of Teddy Pendergrass.
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We got hits
after hits after hits.
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You know, and to this day,
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there ain't too many groups
can mess with us.
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Gamble was
the lyric writer, basically,
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and I played the keyboard,
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and we'll be at Gamble's office
where that upright was.
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You know, two guys in a little
room, and recording,
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and then the whole world
is singing your song.
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♪ Don't leave me this way ♪
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♪ I can't survive,
can't stay alive ♪
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♪ Without your love ♪
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It was like lightning struck.
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The studio was running seven
days a week, 20 hours a day.
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Very hard on a marriage.
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I came home one night and my
clothes were on the front lawn.
But that's another story.
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♪ Don't leave me this way ♪
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♪ No ♪
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♪ Don't leave me this way,
hey ♪
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Teddy had a certain clarity
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and a certain
I would say roughness
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but growl that was attractive.
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You gotta give a voice
like this. Raw meat.
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♪ Aaah ♪
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♪ Baby ♪
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♪ My heart is full
of love and desire for you ♪
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Teddy made a difference.
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You know, he was a challenge
for Huff and myself.
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- Yeah.
- We loved that, you know.
251
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Songs like "The Love I Lost,"
you know.
252
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♪ The love I lost ♪
253
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- ♪ Was a sweet love ♪
254
00:18:01,291 --> 00:18:04,834
♪ The love I lost ♪
255
00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:09,250
♪ Was complete love ♪
256
00:18:09,333 --> 00:18:13,583
♪ The love I lost ♪
257
00:18:13,667 --> 00:18:16,500
♪ I will never, no, no, never ♪
258
00:18:16,583 --> 00:18:20,750
♪ Love again ♪
259
00:18:20,834 --> 00:18:24,208
♪ I can remember planning ♪
260
00:18:25,458 --> 00:18:27,917
♪ Building my whole world
around you ♪
261
00:18:28,625 --> 00:18:32,041
♪ I can remember hoping ♪
262
00:18:32,125 --> 00:18:36,000
♪ That you and I
could make it on through ♪
263
00:18:37,875 --> 00:18:40,333
♪ But something went wrong ♪
264
00:18:41,709 --> 00:18:45,500
♪ We loved each other,
we just couldn't get along ♪
265
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:48,542
♪ Take a good look at me ♪
266
00:18:48,625 --> 00:18:51,875
♪ I'm in misery,
can't you see? ♪
267
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,667
♪ The love I lost ♪
268
00:18:52,792 --> 00:18:56,166
♪ The love, the love I lost ♪
269
00:18:56,250 --> 00:18:57,959
♪ Was a sweet love ♪
270
00:18:58,041 --> 00:18:58,625
♪ Yes, it was ♪
271
00:18:58,709 --> 00:19:02,500
♪ The love I lost ♪
272
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,458
♪ Was complete love ♪
273
00:19:06,542 --> 00:19:11,375
♪ The love I lost ♪
274
00:19:11,458 --> 00:19:12,250
♪ I will never ♪
275
00:19:12,333 --> 00:19:13,792
- ♪ Never
- ♪ No, no, never ♪
276
00:19:13,875 --> 00:19:18,917
- ♪ Never ♪
- ♪ Love again ♪
277
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,750
♪ I can't remember nothing,
no, no, no ♪
278
00:19:23,834 --> 00:19:25,917
♪ But the good times
we used to share ♪
279
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,125
Harold tried to
take the credit for everything.
280
00:19:29,208 --> 00:19:31,959
Teddy was really
making the money for the group.
281
00:19:32,041 --> 00:19:34,750
It was just Harold
just messing everything up.
282
00:19:34,834 --> 00:19:36,000
Being greedy.
283
00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:54,000
We were playing at
Total Experience in Los Angeles
284
00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:57,000
and, um, a royalty check
had come in
285
00:19:57,083 --> 00:19:59,166
and Harold had cashed it.
286
00:19:59,250 --> 00:20:03,125
Bernie, Teddy and Larry
were staying in motels,
287
00:20:03,208 --> 00:20:07,125
and Teddy walked
to the Beverly Wilshire,
288
00:20:07,208 --> 00:20:09,417
where Harold was staying
in a suite.
289
00:20:23,041 --> 00:20:24,500
And Harold said,
"I don't think I got it.
290
00:20:24,583 --> 00:20:26,959
I'm a little low on cash
291
00:20:27,041 --> 00:20:28,375
but I'll go upstairs
and check it out."
292
00:20:34,208 --> 00:20:38,125
And he saw these... looked like
thousands of dollars.
293
00:20:38,208 --> 00:20:43,166
He had a stack of money
on the bed, I mean stacks of
294
00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:46,041
what they have in the banks,
you know,
295
00:20:46,125 --> 00:20:47,792
with the little wraps on them.
296
00:20:47,875 --> 00:20:52,041
Harold gave him 200
and told him not to tell us.
297
00:21:06,792 --> 00:21:08,834
♪ Wake up, everybody ♪
298
00:21:08,917 --> 00:21:11,959
♪ No more sleeping in bed ♪
299
00:21:12,041 --> 00:21:13,208
I had to remind myself
300
00:21:13,291 --> 00:21:17,333
that that was a Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes song.
301
00:21:17,417 --> 00:21:20,166
Because it's really
a Teddy song.
302
00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:22,667
♪ What it used to be ♪
303
00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:26,250
♪ There is so much hatred,
war and poverty ♪
304
00:21:26,333 --> 00:21:30,542
If it were Teddy
Pendergrass and the Blue Notes,
305
00:21:30,625 --> 00:21:32,333
that would've made a difference,
306
00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:35,083
but you can't
keep a good man down.
307
00:21:35,166 --> 00:21:38,458
♪ Wake up, everybody ♪
308
00:21:38,542 --> 00:21:41,458
We called it
"Break Up, Everybody."
309
00:21:41,542 --> 00:21:45,583
Because Teddy left Harold.
310
00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:47,959
The Blue Notes left Harold.
311
00:21:48,041 --> 00:21:49,667
And Teddy went on his own.
312
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:50,834
The Blue Notes
went on their own.
313
00:21:50,917 --> 00:21:53,417
Harold started up another group.
314
00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:56,792
Teddy was
preparing to leave Harold
315
00:21:56,875 --> 00:21:59,250
and Harold had made
some serious threats
316
00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:03,834
about what would happen
to Teddy if he did so.
317
00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:06,583
His life! Threatening his life.
318
00:22:07,417 --> 00:22:09,041
Harold came to me and said
319
00:22:09,125 --> 00:22:12,500
that he wanted to stay
with the company
320
00:22:12,583 --> 00:22:14,333
but he didn't want Teddy
to be there.
321
00:22:14,417 --> 00:22:17,000
I said we can't do that.
Business is business.
322
00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:19,375
- Right.
- You know, and um...
323
00:22:19,458 --> 00:22:21,667
I think
we made a great decision.
324
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:26,208
Harold was very
angry and didn't wish Teddy well
325
00:22:26,291 --> 00:22:30,291
when he went on his own, said
that he would fall on his face.
326
00:22:30,375 --> 00:22:35,166
But then once I heard
"I Don't Love You Anymore,"
327
00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:36,625
that's it, gone.
328
00:22:36,709 --> 00:22:40,458
♪ I don't love you anymore ♪
329
00:22:40,542 --> 00:22:42,750
♪ It's just that simple ♪
330
00:22:44,041 --> 00:22:47,166
♪ No, no, no, not like before ♪
331
00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:52,208
♪ Such a shame, dirty shame,
yeah ♪
332
00:22:52,291 --> 00:22:54,417
You quit singing for a while.
How come?
333
00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:59,000
Yes, um... we recorded
a record once and um...
334
00:22:59,083 --> 00:23:01,834
heard no more from the producer
or the record
335
00:23:01,917 --> 00:23:03,166
and we kinda just..
336
00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:05,542
- That happens, though.
- But I was a kid.
337
00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:07,166
Sixteen years old, it meant
a lot to me, you know.
338
00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:10,500
- I stopped singing and--
- Completely?
339
00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:11,792
Yeah, for a while.
340
00:23:11,875 --> 00:23:14,959
I said, "I'm gonna play drums
and beat my troubles away."
341
00:23:15,041 --> 00:23:17,125
You played drums
for other people?
342
00:23:17,208 --> 00:23:19,583
Yeah. I played drums for Harold
before I sang with him.
343
00:23:19,667 --> 00:23:23,917
Harold Melvin? I bet you don't
play drums for him after this.
344
00:23:23,959 --> 00:23:26,458
I'm gonna get him to play
drums for me. No!
345
00:23:27,709 --> 00:23:31,291
Oh, Harold, you got
a big one coming. That's funny.
346
00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:33,125
Who plays drums for you now?
347
00:23:33,208 --> 00:23:33,959
A gentleman named James Carter
348
00:23:34,041 --> 00:23:36,000
and I really
wouldn't want his job,
349
00:23:36,083 --> 00:23:40,333
because I am hard on him, yeah.
350
00:23:40,417 --> 00:23:43,917
I was 21 years old,
you know, at the time,
351
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000
and I probably was a little
tiny bit more handsome
352
00:23:48,083 --> 00:23:50,375
than I am now, not much more.
353
00:23:51,083 --> 00:23:53,959
When I met Teddy, he said,
354
00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:55,542
"Good, you're gonna
be all right.
355
00:23:55,625 --> 00:23:58,291
They say drummers with gaps
in their teeth can play."
356
00:24:15,041 --> 00:24:17,667
Taaz Lang was the manager.
357
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:22,583
So one day I got a call saying
we need to put a band together.
358
00:24:22,667 --> 00:24:25,333
Teddy knew that I was
a band leader at the Uptown
359
00:24:25,417 --> 00:24:29,750
and Teddy asked me to take over
the band, and I did,
360
00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:32,000
and that's how it got started.
361
00:24:36,959 --> 00:24:41,709
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
362
00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:48,959
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
363
00:24:50,417 --> 00:24:53,792
I was walking along 52nd Street
trying to get a gig.
364
00:24:55,959 --> 00:24:58,917
- Trying to get...
- She will do anything.
365
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,750
- She will sing.
- Yes.
366
00:25:00,834 --> 00:25:03,333
And he said, "Do you know me?"
And I said, "No."
367
00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:05,625
And he said, "I'm Teddy
Pendergrass, you know.
368
00:25:05,709 --> 00:25:07,709
I left Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes
369
00:25:07,792 --> 00:25:11,792
and I'm gonna be big,"
and I was like, "Yeah. OK."
370
00:25:15,709 --> 00:25:19,417
In the audition he says,
"What's going on with you?"
371
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:22,625
I said, "Those guys got the job,
they're great musicians."
372
00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:26,458
He says, "No." He said, "You
played what was on the paper.
373
00:25:26,542 --> 00:25:28,083
You can have the job."
374
00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:35,208
I remember just sitting
there and, I mean,
375
00:25:35,291 --> 00:25:36,417
I'm the white boy,
I'm the youngest,
376
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:39,917
in a flannel shirt and jeans
and hiking boots.
377
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,792
Everybody else is looking
Italian. I just really...
378
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:46,667
We commune through the playing
because I kinda understood,
379
00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:48,250
you know, the music.
380
00:25:53,667 --> 00:25:55,834
One night
Teddy saw us performing
381
00:25:55,917 --> 00:25:58,917
and Taaz, his manager,
called the studio,
382
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,166
and asked if we would dance
with him.
383
00:26:01,250 --> 00:26:03,500
We didn't know who he was.
"Who is he?"
384
00:26:03,583 --> 00:26:05,375
But what clicked for us
was they said,
385
00:26:05,458 --> 00:26:08,166
"Well, he's opening
at Carnegie Hall,"
386
00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:10,333
and we thought, "Carnegie Hall?
387
00:26:10,417 --> 00:26:14,125
Yes, we'll dance,
and we can go to Carnegie Hall."
388
00:26:16,458 --> 00:26:20,917
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
389
00:26:47,542 --> 00:26:50,875
Taaz Lang, she said,
"Hey, you need to stay here,
390
00:26:50,959 --> 00:26:54,000
it's gonna be good."
391
00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:59,041
Ted loved Taaz.
392
00:26:59,125 --> 00:27:04,041
He always made it very clear
how important that she was.
393
00:27:04,125 --> 00:27:07,834
One of the most important
relationships in his life
394
00:27:07,917 --> 00:27:10,000
is how he had put it to me.
395
00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:14,333
I knew Taaz pretty good.
396
00:27:14,417 --> 00:27:16,041
She had a beauty shop, like,
397
00:27:16,125 --> 00:27:18,792
talkative,
make-it-happen kinda lady,
398
00:27:18,875 --> 00:27:19,875
you know what I mean?
399
00:27:19,959 --> 00:27:22,375
Is that
a shop we rehearsed at?
400
00:27:22,458 --> 00:27:24,417
It was a show we rehearsed in,
yeah.
401
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:26,375
She was a good girl
but she was firm.
402
00:27:26,458 --> 00:27:29,667
- She was very firm.
- Oh, extremely.
403
00:27:53,375 --> 00:27:56,250
We had left by bus
404
00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:58,709
so Taaz saw us off and we went
on Thursday evening.
405
00:27:58,792 --> 00:28:05,250
And Teddy
had rode with us that time.
406
00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:07,834
Was strange
that he was on the bus with us.
407
00:28:07,917 --> 00:28:12,792
And soon as he got into town,
he went to make a phone call,
408
00:28:12,875 --> 00:28:17,041
and he was informed
that Taaz Lang had been shot.
409
00:28:17,125 --> 00:28:19,834
Killed, murdered.
410
00:28:19,917 --> 00:28:22,625
Henry Evans,
Teddy's road manager,
411
00:28:22,709 --> 00:28:25,208
called Teddy
and said that Taaz was dead.
412
00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:29,125
And I was like... the look
that I got from both of them,
413
00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:33,959
I was like, "This is not right."
414
00:28:34,041 --> 00:28:38,083
It's uh...
filled with some kind of regret.
415
00:28:38,166 --> 00:28:41,291
I'm looking at somebody
that's full of relieved, like...
416
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,667
The hits come faster
417
00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:48,125
on the "Sonny Hopson Show!"
418
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,709
I said OK.
419
00:29:28,959 --> 00:29:31,208
She had been shot.
She was killed.
420
00:29:48,458 --> 00:29:52,500
There was a lot
of thug life happening,
421
00:29:52,583 --> 00:29:55,417
you know, in the record industry
at that time.
422
00:30:00,083 --> 00:30:02,458
He intimidated me, you know.
423
00:30:02,542 --> 00:30:04,583
Sometimes I would be scared,
424
00:30:04,667 --> 00:30:06,709
excuse the term, shitless,
in the studio.
425
00:30:10,625 --> 00:30:13,875
Where you have money,
you have mobsters usually.
426
00:30:13,959 --> 00:30:16,917
You knew you had
to be a part of things
427
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,625
because you're doing a show
but you didn't wanna get
428
00:30:20,709 --> 00:30:22,667
9too friendly
with anybody like that.
429
00:30:26,250 --> 00:30:28,250
Taaz started making threats.
430
00:30:28,333 --> 00:30:29,750
She could ruin his career.
431
00:30:29,834 --> 00:30:32,375
That's a big threat
for an entertainer.
432
00:30:32,458 --> 00:30:35,291
"I can ruin your career,
I can change your whole life."
433
00:30:54,709 --> 00:30:56,291
Who killed Taaz?
434
00:31:02,041 --> 00:31:04,959
It was the Black Mafia,
just I don't know who.
435
00:31:05,041 --> 00:31:09,125
Just don't know who.
Never found out who did it.
436
00:31:09,208 --> 00:31:12,959
Their main business was drugs
and the business was violent.
437
00:31:13,041 --> 00:31:16,375
You can't let anybody
steal from you.
438
00:31:16,458 --> 00:31:18,500
If you do,
they had to pay a price,
439
00:31:18,583 --> 00:31:21,542
either break their legs
or take their life.
440
00:31:21,625 --> 00:31:25,417
- The story never came out.
- Never came out.
441
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:28,041
It's one
of those unsolved mysteries.
442
00:31:28,083 --> 00:31:30,709
Like it's been said
those who say don't know
443
00:31:30,792 --> 00:31:33,750
and those who know don't say.
444
00:31:33,834 --> 00:31:36,875
One of those kinda deals.
445
00:31:36,959 --> 00:31:39,834
Didn't surprise
me about why they would kill her
446
00:31:39,917 --> 00:31:45,125
because she had total control
over Teddy Pendergrass
447
00:31:45,208 --> 00:31:48,792
and I had heard the rumors
that she had too much.
448
00:31:52,917 --> 00:31:58,667
♪ This one's for you ♪
449
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,583
I was blessed to play
at her funeral,
450
00:32:00,667 --> 00:32:04,125
and Cecil Du Valle
played organ.
451
00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:08,417
I played piano and Teddy sang
"This One's For You."
452
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,083
And you could tell the emotions
453
00:32:12,166 --> 00:32:15,959
that Teddy put into that song
for Taaz.
454
00:32:16,041 --> 00:32:19,500
Wow, it was very sad
playing that song.
455
00:32:19,583 --> 00:32:23,417
♪ That I'm the one who cries ♪
456
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,125
♪ And I ♪
457
00:32:26,208 --> 00:32:30,083
Jesse Jackson
preached the eulogy.
458
00:32:30,166 --> 00:32:32,125
♪ And I'll fight so hard ♪
459
00:32:32,208 --> 00:32:35,166
♪ To hide my tears 'cause... ♪
460
00:33:11,583 --> 00:33:16,667
♪ This one is for you ♪
461
00:33:37,041 --> 00:33:40,500
I was fairly successful
as a young manager
462
00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:42,625
who got a reputation
of being different,
463
00:33:42,709 --> 00:33:45,291
and Alice was one
of the artists I managed
464
00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:46,333
so I got on a plane,
I went to Philadelphia
465
00:33:46,417 --> 00:33:48,667
to see Teddy Pendergrass.
466
00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:52,041
I didn't realize
till I got to the show
467
00:33:52,125 --> 00:33:52,959
that it was the lead singer
468
00:33:53,041 --> 00:33:55,709
of Harold Melvin
and the Blue Notes,
469
00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:57,959
who happened to be one of my
favorite groups in the world.
470
00:33:58,041 --> 00:34:03,125
Would you do me
a very big favor, please?
471
00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:06,583
Give a round of applause
to the Teddy Bear Dancers!
472
00:34:15,125 --> 00:34:16,250
But I hated the show.
473
00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:20,208
Dancers. He was dressed in
a cape. I didn't like it at all.
474
00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:25,500
But I go backstage, all the
Jewish managers in the business
475
00:34:25,583 --> 00:34:26,625
are at the backstage door.
476
00:34:26,709 --> 00:34:29,166
I didn't wait. I just left.
477
00:34:46,917 --> 00:34:49,625
So I went back down
to Philadelphia.
478
00:34:49,709 --> 00:34:51,083
He lived in a penthouse.
479
00:34:51,166 --> 00:34:55,250
This gorgeous lady in lingerie
opened the doors,
480
00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:56,542
like a set of a movie.
481
00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:59,083
And I come in and then Teddy
walks in the room.
482
00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:03,667
And in person, Teddy
is overwhelmingly handsome.
483
00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:07,583
Overwhelmingly sexual.
484
00:35:07,667 --> 00:35:11,375
Overwhelmingly magnetic
and remarkable.
485
00:35:11,458 --> 00:35:12,375
I had no idea what to say.
486
00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:14,792
So I came up
with the most outrageous thing
487
00:35:14,875 --> 00:35:16,250
I could possibly think of.
488
00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:18,792
"You have no way to tell
489
00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:22,750
which one of us Jews
is telling you the truth.
490
00:35:22,834 --> 00:35:26,000
It's like a foreign lang...
And the guys you had there?
491
00:35:26,083 --> 00:35:29,333
They're all the best at lying.
And I happen to be one of them.
492
00:35:29,417 --> 00:35:32,959
The one thing you probably know
how to do is get high.
493
00:35:33,041 --> 00:35:34,458
And I know how to do that too.
494
00:35:34,542 --> 00:35:37,125
You probably
get higher than you should.
495
00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:39,667
There'll be times when you have
money in your pocket
496
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:41,875
and someone
may take it from you.
497
00:35:41,959 --> 00:35:46,041
I get as high as you
but I keep it together,
498
00:35:46,125 --> 00:35:47,917
and I make sure I have the cash
so when you wake up..."
499
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,250
And he just looked at me like,
"What?"
500
00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:54,166
I said, "Meet me somewhere,
bring your best drugs,
501
00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:56,083
your best women,
whatever you want,
502
00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:58,250
and we'll see
who goes down first."
503
00:35:58,333 --> 00:35:59,333
♪ Come on and get down ♪
504
00:35:59,417 --> 00:36:01,917
♪ Down, down,
down, down, down ♪
505
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,125
And three days later,
Teddy collapsed.
506
00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:10,875
I managed him
the rest of his career.
507
00:36:15,458 --> 00:36:18,041
So we first sat down,
I told him,
508
00:36:18,125 --> 00:36:20,417
"By the way, the show goes
509
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,625
and you gotta get rid
of the dancers."
510
00:36:22,709 --> 00:36:24,542
Where I come from,
we say dance the ass off.
511
00:36:24,625 --> 00:36:27,750
We were fired!
512
00:36:27,834 --> 00:36:31,166
So that was how he met Karen.
513
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:32,792
They told Teddy,
"You don't need dancers.
514
00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:35,208
You're a star, you can do this."
515
00:36:35,291 --> 00:36:38,667
Teddy said,
"Now you don't work for me,
516
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:40,500
will you go out with me?"
517
00:36:40,583 --> 00:36:42,250
And that's
how we started dating.
518
00:36:44,959 --> 00:36:46,667
We went to our first show.
519
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:48,625
Teddy Pendergrass!
520
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,709
- Thank you!
521
00:36:53,792 --> 00:36:57,000
And now the show's over I found
the promoter in the bathroom.
522
00:36:57,083 --> 00:36:59,041
I said, "Hi, I'm Shep,
I'm the new manager."
523
00:36:59,125 --> 00:37:01,917
He said,
"We didn't bring any cash."
524
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,208
I said, "What do you mean?
Do you have a check book?"
525
00:37:05,291 --> 00:37:08,709
"We'll send it to him."
"You'll do what?"
526
00:37:08,792 --> 00:37:11,834
And finally got a little crazy
527
00:37:11,917 --> 00:37:13,959
and he ended up
giving me his ring.
528
00:37:14,041 --> 00:37:17,000
He said, "Tell Teddy to keep the
ring till he gets the check."
529
00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:19,583
I went into Teddy's
dressing room
530
00:37:19,667 --> 00:37:21,667
and I said,
"What the fuck is going on?"
531
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:23,291
So, anyway, I left
532
00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:26,583
and I started talking to friends
who knew that world.
533
00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:29,625
Um, and they explained to me
534
00:37:29,709 --> 00:37:32,750
that this thing that I had heard
somewhere in the back of my head
535
00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:34,834
but never really thought about,
536
00:37:34,917 --> 00:37:37,625
which was the Chitlin' Circuit
and it was black promoters,
537
00:37:37,709 --> 00:37:40,083
black record companies,
538
00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:44,166
getting black artists to play
their venues basically for free
539
00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:47,083
'cause they thought they had to
to promote their records.
540
00:37:47,166 --> 00:37:49,208
They had to work for something.
541
00:37:49,291 --> 00:37:52,875
You know, and sometimes they
would work for almost nothing.
542
00:37:52,959 --> 00:37:55,625
I just didn't want
to be a part of it.
543
00:37:55,709 --> 00:37:58,583
So that night I said to Teddy,
you know, "Fuck 'em."
544
00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:02,709
Um... "We're going to play
for white promoters.
545
00:38:02,792 --> 00:38:03,583
You're gonna get paid
546
00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:07,542
and let 'em go
abuse somebody else."
547
00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:10,417
And he said, "Listen,
I didn't tell you this before."
548
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,083
"What's that?" He said, "My last
manager was shot to death."
549
00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:19,417
Uh... So the table
soon turned at that moment
550
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,125
where I had to really think,
and I said, "Fuck 'em.
551
00:38:22,208 --> 00:38:23,250
You're in, I'm in."
552
00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:26,041
He said, "I'll take the ride
with you. Let's do it."
553
00:38:26,959 --> 00:38:30,667
Can we have a warm welcome
554
00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:31,542
for Mr. Teddy Pendergrass!
555
00:38:35,875 --> 00:38:37,583
The first show we did
was at the Roxy in LA.
556
00:38:37,667 --> 00:38:39,834
White promoters.
557
00:38:39,917 --> 00:38:42,834
We got death threats.
FBI protected us.
558
00:38:42,917 --> 00:38:45,875
We got security from them.
559
00:38:45,959 --> 00:38:47,792
But we got through it and sort
of opened the floodgates
560
00:38:47,875 --> 00:38:51,417
and at least at the live level,
561
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,709
the concept of Chitlin' Circuit
was gotten rid of.
562
00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:56,875
For me that's the most
important thing
563
00:38:56,959 --> 00:38:58,750
to get out about Teddy.
564
00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:01,208
He risked his life
to make it easier
565
00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:06,375
for Afro American artists
after him. And that's big.
566
00:39:07,625 --> 00:39:08,875
I'll tell you a secret.
567
00:39:08,959 --> 00:39:12,875
No offense to our white brothers
and sisters but the hotel said,
568
00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:16,458
"I've never seen
so many niggers in my life!"
569
00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:19,667
But I'm glad we all came down.
570
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:21,500
It's nice to see that we can
all sit together.
571
00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:26,667
Some of you in the front and
some of us in the front there.
572
00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:29,583
We don't ride the back
of the bus no more.
573
00:39:31,417 --> 00:39:34,208
We went to California
to see them perform.
574
00:39:34,291 --> 00:39:36,667
- What was the place?
- Roxy.
575
00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:38,250
Roxy. Yeah.
576
00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:41,792
- We knew it then, we said, wow.
- Yeah.
577
00:39:41,875 --> 00:39:44,166
This was not the usual.
578
00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:48,792
Mm-hm. You know what
was amazing too, Gamble?
579
00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:50,875
Teddy didn't even
open his mouth yet
580
00:39:50,959 --> 00:39:53,542
and the females just went crazy.
581
00:39:55,375 --> 00:39:57,333
I thought, "Wait a second.
582
00:39:57,417 --> 00:39:59,458
Let's just do shows
for women only."
583
00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:04,458
There was a full-page ad
with a teddy bear
584
00:40:04,542 --> 00:40:05,667
and an invitation.
585
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:10,208
We had a recorded message
from Teddy with a phone number
586
00:40:10,291 --> 00:40:12,709
and you called it
and he invited them to it.
587
00:40:12,792 --> 00:40:15,583
This is Teddy Pendergrass.
Join me, won't you?
588
00:40:15,667 --> 00:40:19,291
Now that I got 'em in the hall,
how do I really get 'em crazy?
589
00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:22,000
We came up with chocolate
teddy bear lollipops
590
00:40:22,083 --> 00:40:23,917
that we gave out
to the audience
591
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,375
so the girls could lick it
and bite it and...
592
00:40:28,458 --> 00:40:30,750
We sold out...
593
00:40:30,834 --> 00:40:32,000
- In a second.
594
00:40:32,083 --> 00:40:35,834
There has been
screaming at the Greek Theatre.
595
00:40:35,917 --> 00:40:37,917
People think
they've found a new king,
596
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,041
a successor to Frank Sinatra,
Elvis Presley.
597
00:40:41,125 --> 00:40:42,917
He is Teddy Pendergrass.
598
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,875
♪ You ♪
599
00:40:44,959 --> 00:40:47,417
♪ You got, you got,
you got what I want ♪
600
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:52,000
♪ You got, you got,
you got what I need ♪
601
00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:54,917
♪ Only you, baby, only you ♪
602
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,750
♪ Only you,
you, you, you, you ♪
603
00:40:57,834 --> 00:41:01,250
♪ You ♪
604
00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:03,792
Sensuous looking and hairy
605
00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:06,333
and, oh, just fantastic.
606
00:41:06,417 --> 00:41:08,625
I got butterflies in my stomach.
607
00:41:08,709 --> 00:41:11,750
- Something was gonna happen.
- We were gonna do something.
608
00:41:11,834 --> 00:41:14,625
- Something was gonna happen.
- We was coming to do it.
609
00:41:18,542 --> 00:41:20,959
Every show was jam-packed.
610
00:41:21,041 --> 00:41:24,125
And the women were just...
I thought they were nuts.
611
00:41:24,208 --> 00:41:26,709
- Oh!
- What appeals about him?
612
00:41:26,792 --> 00:41:31,458
His body. His body. Mm-mm-mm!
613
00:41:35,375 --> 00:41:38,125
They loved Teddy.
They loved Teddy.
614
00:41:38,208 --> 00:41:40,083
They showed him
any way they could.
615
00:41:40,166 --> 00:41:42,333
Rush the stage.
Throw panties on the stage.
616
00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:45,208
He would meet a woman
and within 11 seconds,
617
00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:47,625
he could get it
to a point with her
618
00:41:47,709 --> 00:41:51,000
that if I had met her I'd have
to go out a couple of times,
619
00:41:51,083 --> 00:41:54,333
I'd have to meet her parents.
620
00:41:54,417 --> 00:41:56,000
I'd have to go through all this
621
00:41:56,083 --> 00:41:59,166
just to get to the point
where he was in 11 seconds.
622
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,959
It wasn't even fair.
623
00:42:12,583 --> 00:42:15,250
Who's the one in the shows
that's screaming and hollering?
624
00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:16,041
It's the females.
625
00:42:16,125 --> 00:42:18,375
So you gotta write for them.
626
00:42:18,458 --> 00:42:21,166
- And that's what we did.
- And that's what we did.
627
00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:24,333
May I just list the first
four songs on the album?
628
00:42:24,417 --> 00:42:24,834
"Come Go With Me."
629
00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:26,125
"Close the Door."
630
00:42:26,208 --> 00:42:28,208
"Turn Off the Lights."
631
00:42:28,291 --> 00:42:29,583
- "Do Me."
- Yes.
632
00:42:29,667 --> 00:42:31,500
- Now...
633
00:42:32,792 --> 00:42:34,625
- Have I got it?
- You got it!
634
00:42:34,709 --> 00:42:38,583
- ♪ Turn off the lights ♪
635
00:42:39,583 --> 00:42:40,583
♪ And light a candle ♪
636
00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:43,625
♪ Just like that, baby ♪
637
00:42:45,583 --> 00:42:50,375
♪ Tonight,
I'm in a romantic mood ♪
638
00:42:50,458 --> 00:42:51,667
♪ Yes ♪
639
00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:55,625
♪ Let's take a shower ♪
640
00:42:56,625 --> 00:42:59,125
♪ Shower together ♪
641
00:43:00,125 --> 00:43:02,792
♪ I'll wash your body ♪
642
00:43:02,875 --> 00:43:06,625
♪ If you'll promise
to wash mine ♪
643
00:43:08,125 --> 00:43:10,792
♪ Rub me down ♪
644
00:43:10,875 --> 00:43:14,917
♪ In some, in some hot oils,
baby ♪
645
00:43:15,875 --> 00:43:21,834
♪ And I'll do
the same thing to you ♪
646
00:43:21,917 --> 00:43:24,000
Teddy was the guy
that other men wanted to be like
647
00:43:24,083 --> 00:43:26,750
and women wanted.
648
00:43:26,834 --> 00:43:29,000
I just like the way
he just sings it.
649
00:43:29,083 --> 00:43:30,125
He sings it good
and I like the way
650
00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:32,750
he's just altogether, you know.
651
00:43:32,834 --> 00:43:35,750
This is billed
as a "for women only" concert.
652
00:43:35,834 --> 00:43:38,875
That doesn't mean anything.
Here's my lady right here.
653
00:43:38,959 --> 00:43:41,166
I want to see him
just as bad as she does.
654
00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:43,375
The guys that did come to
the show, he would say to 'em,
655
00:43:43,458 --> 00:43:46,041
"I'm not here
to take your woman,
656
00:43:46,125 --> 00:43:49,208
I'm just starting them up
for you."
657
00:43:49,291 --> 00:43:51,125
"I'm getting them ready
for you."
658
00:43:51,208 --> 00:43:54,417
"When I get finished I'm going
on the bus. They're yours!"
659
00:43:57,458 --> 00:44:00,166
♪ Just do it to me ♪
660
00:44:00,250 --> 00:44:01,750
♪ I'll do it to you ♪
661
00:44:03,208 --> 00:44:04,333
♪ Come here, baby ♪
662
00:44:04,417 --> 00:44:08,417
♪ Lay your head next to mine ♪
663
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,417
♪ Oh, oh ♪
664
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:12,041
♪ Oh oh, oh oh ♪
665
00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:15,000
♪ Oh oh, oh oh ♪
666
00:44:16,709 --> 00:44:17,542
Black male sexuality
667
00:44:17,625 --> 00:44:20,500
was such a threatening issue
in America
668
00:44:20,583 --> 00:44:23,000
that to present something
so in your face
669
00:44:23,083 --> 00:44:26,583
and so uh...
670
00:44:28,041 --> 00:44:29,875
just blatantly black
671
00:44:29,959 --> 00:44:32,375
is risky.
672
00:44:32,458 --> 00:44:36,000
♪ See,
I know what to do with it ♪
673
00:44:36,083 --> 00:44:38,125
But if you look
at Teddy's career,
674
00:44:38,208 --> 00:44:40,417
it worked like gangbusters.
675
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,166
♪ If you ever let me get it ♪
676
00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:45,041
♪ Give it up now ♪
677
00:44:45,125 --> 00:44:48,500
If God forbid the album reaches
the success of this one,
678
00:44:48,542 --> 00:44:52,125
I'd have to ride around
in a police wagon or something.
679
00:44:52,208 --> 00:44:54,792
I don't like to do that.
680
00:44:54,875 --> 00:44:59,208
He was a charismatic,
strong, emoting performer
681
00:44:59,291 --> 00:45:01,166
when he was center stage,
682
00:45:01,250 --> 00:45:03,834
and the women
just went ga-ga over him.
683
00:45:03,917 --> 00:45:08,000
They went crazy for him. Black
and white. Black and white.
684
00:45:08,083 --> 00:45:10,333
We'll sing
whatever comes to your mind.
685
00:45:12,667 --> 00:45:14,917
Would you say that again
in the microphone?
686
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,709
This lady came backstage
and I walk out the door
687
00:45:17,792 --> 00:45:20,875
and she has this knife and
she pulls it out of her pocket.
688
00:45:20,959 --> 00:45:24,041
She says, "If I can't have you,
nobody can."
689
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:28,709
Yeah, and she lunged at me
with this... I mean...
690
00:45:28,792 --> 00:45:33,166
This was a black lady
and it was a black knife.
691
00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:35,875
- That long, huh?
692
00:45:35,959 --> 00:45:39,458
I seen some things
that my dog wouldn't bark at.
693
00:45:39,542 --> 00:45:41,417
We had girls pull knives, guns.
694
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:44,250
We had girls
buy maids' uniforms.
695
00:45:44,333 --> 00:45:46,709
They'd be waiting for him
in the suite.
696
00:45:46,792 --> 00:45:49,542
If you love
a man like that you know
697
00:45:49,625 --> 00:45:52,041
that part of the real estate
is a lot of other homes.
698
00:45:52,125 --> 00:45:55,291
That he is the property owner
of many residences.
699
00:45:56,166 --> 00:45:58,208
I would not go on the road.
700
00:45:58,291 --> 00:46:00,959
He would even call me and say,
"I want you to come out,"
701
00:46:01,041 --> 00:46:03,542
and I would not go.
I'm like, "Don't send for me."
702
00:46:03,625 --> 00:46:06,792
I would not go on the road.
703
00:46:06,875 --> 00:46:09,917
I didn't want to be
a part of it.
704
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,375
When Ted
came into a room, you knew it.
705
00:46:14,458 --> 00:46:19,208
It was like a hurricane
literally walked in.
706
00:46:19,291 --> 00:46:21,625
Just adorable.
707
00:46:21,709 --> 00:46:24,625
I loved the way he smelled.
708
00:46:24,709 --> 00:46:26,458
I loved the way he laughed
709
00:46:26,542 --> 00:46:31,041
and I loved the way his face
would light up when he saw me.
710
00:46:33,083 --> 00:46:34,458
It felt great.
711
00:46:34,542 --> 00:46:38,542
It felt great,
made me feel special.
712
00:46:42,083 --> 00:46:44,834
Teddy rode past me
in a blue Rolls-Royce.
713
00:46:44,917 --> 00:46:47,291
He called me to his car
714
00:46:47,375 --> 00:46:50,083
and I got nervous,
I ran from him.
715
00:46:50,166 --> 00:46:52,959
I thought he was a pimp.
A pimp.
716
00:46:53,041 --> 00:46:55,625
My sister showed me an album.
717
00:46:55,709 --> 00:46:57,792
I said, "That's the man
who stopped me."
718
00:46:57,875 --> 00:46:59,417
She said, "That's Teddy
Pendergrass, stupid."
719
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:01,458
I said, "I ran from him."
720
00:47:01,542 --> 00:47:03,542
So we'd both kiss the album.
721
00:47:03,625 --> 00:47:08,166
But he was very handsome,
I must say that.
722
00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:10,500
There was something magical
about him.
723
00:47:10,583 --> 00:47:13,333
♪ Tried to take control
of the love ♪
724
00:47:13,417 --> 00:47:17,333
♪ Love took control of me ♪
725
00:47:17,417 --> 00:47:21,000
♪ Caused me to lose all
thought, all sense of time ♪
726
00:47:21,083 --> 00:47:23,208
♪ I had a change of mind ♪
727
00:47:23,291 --> 00:47:27,792
♪ But taking the bumps and the
bruises and all the things ♪
728
00:47:27,875 --> 00:47:30,542
♪ Of a two-time loser ♪
729
00:47:31,959 --> 00:47:34,875
♪ Trying to hold on,
faith is all gone ♪
730
00:47:34,959 --> 00:47:37,667
♪ Just another,
just another sad song ♪
731
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:41,625
♪ I think I'd better
let it go ♪
732
00:47:42,917 --> 00:47:46,625
You're a bachelor and I
have some first-hand knowledge
733
00:47:46,709 --> 00:47:50,041
as to how lonely
734
00:47:50,125 --> 00:47:54,250
and miserable and boring...
735
00:47:54,333 --> 00:47:57,166
- Lonely? Lonely sometimes.
736
00:47:57,250 --> 00:48:00,458
- Boring? I don't think so!
- You don't like the boring?
737
00:48:00,542 --> 00:48:01,417
Boring, I don't know.
738
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,625
There were
so many pieces to him.
739
00:48:03,709 --> 00:48:08,417
He was a kind, wonderful,
sexy, arrogant...
740
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:10,458
There was just
a whole spectrum of people
741
00:48:10,542 --> 00:48:14,000
wrapped up in that one person.
742
00:48:14,959 --> 00:48:17,542
He talked about
not knowing his father
743
00:48:17,625 --> 00:48:20,375
and that troubled him.
744
00:48:20,458 --> 00:48:22,041
And when he met his father,
745
00:48:22,125 --> 00:48:26,959
he didn't like how his father
handled him with his mom.
746
00:48:27,041 --> 00:48:31,208
I promised him,
before I leave this world,
747
00:48:31,291 --> 00:48:33,417
I'm gonna let you see your dad.
748
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:36,500
I'm gonna look him up
and I'm gonna find him
749
00:48:36,583 --> 00:48:39,375
and I'm gonna let you see
your father,
750
00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:44,250
and I did just that,
when he was 11 years old.
751
00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:48,583
And we dressed to kill
that day, wow.
752
00:48:48,667 --> 00:48:53,083
And I turned to Teddy and I
said, "This is your father."
753
00:48:53,166 --> 00:48:55,875
And he looked up at him and
he dropped his head real quick
754
00:48:55,959 --> 00:49:00,166
and I said,
"Honey, look at your father.
755
00:49:00,250 --> 00:49:05,041
Make sure when you see him
again, you will know who he is."
756
00:49:06,542 --> 00:49:08,875
Me and Teddy,
we went on a trolley
757
00:49:08,959 --> 00:49:11,625
and started back for home.
758
00:49:13,542 --> 00:49:15,792
The next time we saw him,
759
00:49:16,750 --> 00:49:18,542
he was in his coffin.
760
00:49:18,625 --> 00:49:22,083
♪ I give myself away ♪
761
00:49:22,792 --> 00:49:24,625
♪ Oh-oh-oh-oh ♪
762
00:49:24,709 --> 00:49:28,125
♪ I give myself away ♪
763
00:49:28,208 --> 00:49:31,166
♪ So you can use me ♪
764
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:13,834
He always said that
765
00:50:13,917 --> 00:50:16,709
because his father
wasn't in his life,
766
00:50:16,792 --> 00:50:20,625
he always wanted to be
in our lives. No matter what.
767
00:50:20,709 --> 00:50:24,875
And at times he could be selfish
768
00:50:24,959 --> 00:50:29,041
or he felt like it was all him,
769
00:50:29,125 --> 00:50:31,250
that he had to
always do everything.
770
00:50:31,333 --> 00:50:34,583
Whereas though that probably
came from the fact that
771
00:50:34,667 --> 00:50:38,000
he didn't have anybody
to lean on growing up.
772
00:50:38,083 --> 00:50:43,041
So it made him strong
but it also made him feel
773
00:50:43,125 --> 00:50:44,875
like he was all he had.
774
00:50:44,959 --> 00:50:47,959
He just wanted to protect us
from the world.
775
00:50:48,041 --> 00:50:50,834
I guess he lived
and he saw it all
776
00:50:50,917 --> 00:50:52,917
and he just didn't want us
to go through
777
00:50:52,959 --> 00:50:56,041
half of the things
that he went through.
778
00:50:56,125 --> 00:50:58,291
Get funky for me one time!
779
00:51:03,291 --> 00:51:07,458
I liked him most
of the time but he was a guy
780
00:51:07,542 --> 00:51:09,375
that if he made you love him,
you loved him.
781
00:51:09,458 --> 00:51:11,250
If he made you mad...
782
00:51:14,291 --> 00:51:16,792
He made you mad!
783
00:51:16,875 --> 00:51:19,375
Teddy had a tremendous ego.
784
00:51:19,458 --> 00:51:20,959
He also had a tremendous talent
785
00:51:21,041 --> 00:51:24,834
and I was trying to imagine
what it would have been like
786
00:51:24,917 --> 00:51:28,583
to be thrust into the limelight,
787
00:51:28,667 --> 00:51:32,041
into being a star at the pace
that it happened for him.
788
00:51:32,125 --> 00:51:35,041
A complicated
guy. A complicated man.
789
00:51:35,125 --> 00:51:39,667
A weird combination of ego and
vulnerability at the same time.
790
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:41,625
And I do think
a lot of those characteristics
791
00:51:41,709 --> 00:51:44,083
helped him put those songs over.
792
00:51:44,166 --> 00:51:46,917
♪ Life is a song
worth singing ♪
793
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,250
♪ Why don't you sing it? ♪
794
00:51:51,291 --> 00:51:53,792
♪ Life is a song
worth singing ♪
795
00:51:53,875 --> 00:51:57,291
♪ Why don't you sing it? ♪
796
00:51:57,375 --> 00:52:00,667
Five platinum albums in a row!
797
00:52:00,750 --> 00:52:03,291
- That's some kind of record.
- Yes, thank you.
798
00:52:03,375 --> 00:52:04,625
Platinum.
799
00:52:04,709 --> 00:52:07,125
Come on.
800
00:52:07,208 --> 00:52:11,500
Why don't you tell the audience
what platinum albums are?
801
00:52:11,583 --> 00:52:14,709
- Platinum's better than gold.
- One million copies were sold.
802
00:52:14,792 --> 00:52:17,125
- Gold is 500.
- Gold is 500,000.
803
00:52:17,208 --> 00:52:19,583
Yes, and platinum
is twice as much.
804
00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:24,000
♪ You're a fool
if you think you're helpless ♪
805
00:52:24,083 --> 00:52:29,208
♪ You decide
just to live your mind ♪
806
00:52:31,291 --> 00:52:35,834
My elementary school
was on 315 Broad Street.
807
00:52:35,917 --> 00:52:39,917
Philly International
I believe was 313.
808
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,166
So all Broad Street knew
when Teddy Pendergrass
809
00:52:42,250 --> 00:52:46,458
was in proximity because
the sound of shrieking women
810
00:52:46,542 --> 00:52:49,667
shouldn't be that loud
at 12 p.m. in the afternoon.
811
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:52,709
The second you start hearing
the shrieks it's like...
812
00:52:52,792 --> 00:52:56,542
"Yeah, Teddy Pendergrass
is over."
813
00:52:56,625 --> 00:52:58,125
It was chaos and he ate it up.
814
00:52:58,208 --> 00:53:02,375
Teddy Pendergrass
was Philadelphia's king.
815
00:53:02,458 --> 00:53:03,250
Its prince.
816
00:53:03,333 --> 00:53:05,667
He was a sleek-looking guy.
817
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:08,792
Brown brother.
Nice hair. Nice features.
818
00:53:08,875 --> 00:53:10,041
And dressing sharp.
819
00:53:10,125 --> 00:53:13,250
When you ride with Teddy
it was an adventure
820
00:53:13,333 --> 00:53:18,125
'cause he would have
his drink here, his pistol here.
821
00:53:19,542 --> 00:53:22,709
And whatever other
paraphernalia he had.
822
00:53:22,792 --> 00:53:25,542
And I'm hanging on and he'd say,
823
00:53:25,625 --> 00:53:29,291
"What's wrong, Jesse,
you scared?" Goddamn right.
824
00:53:31,458 --> 00:53:35,625
The only thing I
ever worried about with Ted is
825
00:53:35,709 --> 00:53:40,625
the police gave him such
a hard time in Philadelphia
826
00:53:40,709 --> 00:53:42,583
that I never knew
827
00:53:42,667 --> 00:53:44,208
when something might happen.
828
00:53:46,166 --> 00:53:48,375
Whenever they saw his car,
829
00:53:48,458 --> 00:53:53,667
they were right behind us
and they were following him
830
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:56,834
and just looking
for an opportunity.
831
00:54:01,792 --> 00:54:04,667
I lived in Philadelphia
from '65 to '70.
832
00:54:04,750 --> 00:54:07,250
Some tough years down there
for relations between the races.
833
00:54:07,291 --> 00:54:11,041
There was some tense moments
in North Philadelphia.
834
00:54:11,125 --> 00:54:13,583
I got to know the neighborhood
rather well.
835
00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:16,709
I've got a couple of scars
that I can show you
836
00:54:16,792 --> 00:54:19,750
from some of those days.
It was rough.
837
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:39,041
Somebody dropped a dime.
838
00:54:41,792 --> 00:54:45,834
And because of the police siren,
everybody ran.
839
00:54:45,917 --> 00:54:48,041
Well, then Teddy ran too.
840
00:54:57,166 --> 00:55:00,125
He was innocent, he didn't do
what the police said he did.
841
00:55:00,208 --> 00:55:02,917
Somebody was robbed
or something
842
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,291
and he fit the profile
and he was locked up.
843
00:55:05,375 --> 00:55:08,291
When we had the hearing,
Teddy told the story.
844
00:55:08,375 --> 00:55:13,375
The judge said,
"But you shouldn't have run,"
845
00:55:13,458 --> 00:55:16,125
so they took him
to the Youth Study Center.
846
00:55:16,208 --> 00:55:19,917
He called me.
"Mom, come and get me."
847
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,875
He stayed there five months,
I think it was.
848
00:55:46,875 --> 00:55:49,875
♪ Had my dream so near ♪
849
00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,375
♪ I could reach out
and touch it ♪
850
00:55:53,458 --> 00:55:54,458
♪ I could touch it ♪
851
00:55:54,542 --> 00:55:58,375
- ♪ And I lost it ♪
- ♪ And I lost it ♪
852
00:55:58,458 --> 00:56:00,458
♪ And I lost it ♪
853
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:04,291
The police
would come by the house,
854
00:56:04,375 --> 00:56:08,208
and, of course, it escalated
and next thing you know,
855
00:56:08,291 --> 00:56:12,500
they're taking him off
in handcuffs.
856
00:56:13,417 --> 00:56:15,333
The police harassed him a lot.
857
00:56:15,417 --> 00:56:18,542
And Teddy didn't take
any stuff from anybody
858
00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:19,792
and if he felt he was right,
859
00:56:19,875 --> 00:56:22,125
he was gonna
stand up for himself.
860
00:56:22,208 --> 00:56:26,333
And here is this big black man
with that Rolls-Royce.
861
00:56:26,417 --> 00:56:30,125
Millionaire. So the police
felt like that's a target.
862
00:57:00,125 --> 00:57:03,625
♪ Whoever you are, be a star ♪
863
00:57:03,709 --> 00:57:06,500
♪ In Celebrity Jeans ♪
864
00:57:08,875 --> 00:57:11,125
Be free, be someone special
865
00:57:11,208 --> 00:57:14,291
with Teddy Pendergrass
Celebrity Body Jeans.
866
00:57:16,041 --> 00:57:18,625
- You got them Teddy jeans?
867
00:57:18,709 --> 00:57:20,542
♪ Whoever you are, be a star ♪
868
00:57:20,625 --> 00:57:24,125
We were ready
and we had all these elements
869
00:57:24,208 --> 00:57:27,792
and we had a clear path
to stardom.
870
00:57:27,875 --> 00:57:30,959
You could just feel
that he was gonna be
871
00:57:31,041 --> 00:57:33,250
what I used to call
the great black hope.
872
00:57:33,333 --> 00:57:35,750
My market is very loyal to me
873
00:57:35,834 --> 00:57:38,333
and I'm very, very grateful
to that
874
00:57:38,417 --> 00:57:40,166
and I would never ever leave
875
00:57:40,250 --> 00:57:44,041
but what I wanna do is expose
my way of doing things
876
00:57:44,125 --> 00:57:45,709
to other marketplaces
877
00:57:45,792 --> 00:57:49,166
and give them a chance to say
whether they like it or not.
878
00:57:49,250 --> 00:57:52,709
He was positioned to be really
a major artist,
879
00:57:52,792 --> 00:57:55,166
crossover artist,
because he had that talent,
880
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:56,750
and he had the music behind him
881
00:57:56,834 --> 00:57:59,333
and he had
the right management team.
882
00:57:59,417 --> 00:58:01,458
His job was to become,
at least I felt,
883
00:58:01,542 --> 00:58:05,166
and I think he felt the same,
to become the black Elvis.
884
00:58:13,166 --> 00:58:14,291
He was about to go worldwide
885
00:58:14,375 --> 00:58:17,000
and he would have been
a total phenomenon.
886
00:58:17,083 --> 00:58:19,917
You know, in that range
887
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,458
of Prince or Michael Jackson,
whatever,
888
00:58:24,542 --> 00:58:27,542
he was getting ready
to take it to another level.
889
00:58:27,625 --> 00:58:28,875
I could see that coming.
890
00:58:28,959 --> 00:58:31,750
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
891
00:58:31,834 --> 00:58:33,500
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
892
00:58:36,709 --> 00:58:38,417
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
a- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
893
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:41,959
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
894
00:58:44,125 --> 00:58:49,041
Everything was waiting for him.
Movies, television, everything.
895
00:58:58,417 --> 00:59:01,166
Now, my darling,
wherever you are...
896
00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:12,166
Think I should say that again?
897
00:59:12,250 --> 00:59:15,041
Said my darling,
wherever you are.
898
00:59:20,417 --> 00:59:25,417
Won't you please...
listen to my song?
899
00:59:27,208 --> 00:59:28,709
We were on the way
900
00:59:28,792 --> 00:59:32,417
but we still didn't cross over
yet. It was, it was trying to.
901
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,834
We were just finding
the right couple of songs.
902
00:59:41,291 --> 00:59:45,375
Teddy had asked me
to do an arrangement on "Lady."
903
00:59:45,458 --> 00:59:48,667
And it made a lot of sense
to do that
904
00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:52,500
because Teddy's voice would have
brought in the black audience.
905
00:59:52,583 --> 00:59:54,750
But the choice of song
906
00:59:54,834 --> 00:59:57,125
would have brought in
the white audience.
907
00:59:57,208 --> 00:59:59,917
And the combination of the two
would have been a hit.
908
01:00:01,417 --> 01:00:05,667
- ♪ Lady ♪
909
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:08,417
♪ I'm your knight
in shining armor ♪
910
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:12,458
♪ And I love you ♪
911
01:00:14,083 --> 01:00:16,583
♪ You have come into my life ♪
912
01:00:16,667 --> 01:00:18,834
♪ And ♪
913
01:00:19,917 --> 01:00:23,542
♪ Made me whole ♪
914
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,750
♪ And for ever ♪
915
01:00:33,458 --> 01:00:36,125
♪ Let me wake to see you ♪
916
01:00:36,208 --> 01:00:39,917
♪ Each, each
and every morning ♪
917
01:00:42,375 --> 01:00:47,291
♪ Let me hear you
whisper softly ♪
918
01:00:48,291 --> 01:00:52,875
♪ In my ear ♪
919
01:00:56,709 --> 01:00:59,208
♪ In my eyes ♪
920
01:00:59,291 --> 01:01:03,583
♪ But in my eyes ♪
921
01:01:03,667 --> 01:01:07,041
♪ I see no one else but you ♪
922
01:01:07,125 --> 01:01:10,291
♪ There's no other ♪
923
01:01:10,375 --> 01:01:13,709
♪ Love like our love ♪
924
01:01:14,583 --> 01:01:19,000
♪ Oh yes, oh yes ♪
925
01:01:19,083 --> 01:01:21,834
♪ I'll always want you
near me ♪
926
01:01:22,834 --> 01:01:23,792
♪ I've waited for you ♪
927
01:01:25,458 --> 01:01:30,375
♪ For so long ♪
928
01:01:30,458 --> 01:01:32,458
♪ Oh-oh ♪
929
01:01:32,542 --> 01:01:35,041
♪ Lady ♪
930
01:01:35,125 --> 01:01:37,750
♪ Lady ♪
931
01:01:38,709 --> 01:01:40,458
♪ Lady ♪
932
01:01:41,834 --> 01:01:43,041
♪ You see, your love ♪
933
01:01:43,125 --> 01:01:47,792
♪ Your love is the only love
that I'll ever need ♪
934
01:01:50,125 --> 01:01:52,375
♪ And right here ♪
935
01:01:53,417 --> 01:01:55,500
♪ Right here beside me ♪
936
01:01:56,375 --> 01:01:57,750
♪ Oh, that's where ♪
937
01:01:57,834 --> 01:02:04,000
♪ That's where I want you to be
for ever and ever ♪
938
01:02:05,041 --> 01:02:06,792
♪ 'Cause my love ♪
939
01:02:07,375 --> 01:02:10,458
♪ Oh, my love ♪
940
01:02:11,667 --> 01:02:12,834
♪ There's something
I want you to know ♪
941
01:02:12,917 --> 01:02:17,875
♪ Something I've just got
to let you know ♪
942
01:02:17,959 --> 01:02:22,834
♪ That you're the love
of my life ♪
943
01:02:43,333 --> 01:02:47,125
We had a little ritual
that we would go to
944
01:02:47,208 --> 01:02:49,917
the basketball game
to see Julius.
945
01:02:53,417 --> 01:02:57,000
Watch the game and sometimes
go out afterwards.
946
01:02:57,083 --> 01:02:59,458
And I said,
"Let's get out of here,"
947
01:02:59,542 --> 01:03:01,792
let's stop at
this little club we knew.
948
01:03:01,875 --> 01:03:06,750
While I was sitting in
the lobby, I saw this person,
949
01:03:06,792 --> 01:03:10,250
and everything she had on
was too revealing.
950
01:03:10,333 --> 01:03:13,291
I saw Teddy again at a club,
951
01:03:13,375 --> 01:03:15,500
the Warwick Hotel
at 17th and Locust.
952
01:03:15,583 --> 01:03:17,959
He was with this girl
named Yvette
953
01:03:18,041 --> 01:03:20,834
and one of Teddy's friends,
Brinkley.
954
01:03:20,917 --> 01:03:23,041
And he asked me
did I want a drink.
955
01:03:34,917 --> 01:03:40,208
No, I didn't feel any threat
from any other woman.
956
01:03:40,291 --> 01:03:43,166
Are you kidding me?
957
01:03:43,250 --> 01:03:45,583
Teddy treated me
like a princess.
958
01:03:45,667 --> 01:03:49,542
So he says, "Well,
I'm gonna take one lady home
959
01:03:49,625 --> 01:03:53,959
and then take the other lady
to my house."
960
01:03:58,959 --> 01:04:00,625
Um, he was driving kind of fast
961
01:04:00,709 --> 01:04:05,000
and so I said to him slow down.
962
01:04:05,083 --> 01:04:08,959
Slow down.
And so he slowed down.
963
01:04:10,291 --> 01:04:13,500
He uh... got me home,
walked me to the door,
964
01:04:13,583 --> 01:04:14,625
kissed me good night
965
01:04:14,709 --> 01:04:17,750
and I said, "Make sure you
call me when you get home."
966
01:04:17,834 --> 01:04:21,333
I was wondering why he didn't
drop me off first
967
01:04:21,417 --> 01:04:25,333
'cause I only lived about three,
four blocks from the club.
968
01:04:25,417 --> 01:04:27,583
But I just went along
for the ride.
969
01:04:30,625 --> 01:04:31,792
So on our way back,
970
01:04:31,875 --> 01:04:35,834
the car started
going really, really fast.
971
01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:33,375
Everything got completely quiet.
972
01:05:33,458 --> 01:05:35,709
I didn't know how bad
the car was damaged.
973
01:05:35,792 --> 01:05:39,000
All I know we both were alive
and I was thanking God for that.
974
01:05:39,083 --> 01:05:42,875
And out of nowhere,
a man came up to the car.
975
01:05:58,875 --> 01:06:01,000
Approximately 1:30
in the morning
976
01:06:01,083 --> 01:06:05,417
Engine 19, Ladder 8,
Battalion 9 and Medic 16
977
01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:07,125
were dispatched
to Lincoln Drive.
978
01:06:09,083 --> 01:06:12,959
Lincoln Drive is a notorious
section of highway
979
01:06:13,041 --> 01:06:14,834
where there's
a lot of accidents.
980
01:06:14,917 --> 01:06:18,792
Slick conditions,
a lot of switchbacks.
981
01:06:18,875 --> 01:06:20,083
Many people drive too quickly
982
01:06:20,166 --> 01:06:24,125
so there's frequently accidents;
sometimes very bad accidents.
983
01:06:24,208 --> 01:06:27,834
We arrive on scene
and we have a Rolls-Royce
984
01:06:27,917 --> 01:06:29,709
into a couple of trees.
985
01:06:58,333 --> 01:07:01,417
The passenger, Tenika Watson,
986
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:02,500
seemed uninjured.
987
01:07:02,583 --> 01:07:06,834
The driver had been thrown
into the back seat.
988
01:07:12,250 --> 01:07:15,083
We put him on a spine board
989
01:07:15,166 --> 01:07:17,083
and removed him from the car.
990
01:07:18,458 --> 01:07:20,208
They got us out of it
991
01:07:20,291 --> 01:07:22,875
and I was thinking
maybe I can get away from here
992
01:07:22,959 --> 01:07:27,625
but when I got out
Teddy whispered, he said,
993
01:07:27,709 --> 01:07:30,083
"Don't leave me,
don't let them hurt me."
994
01:07:30,166 --> 01:07:32,583
And I was like, "Who is they?"
995
01:07:32,667 --> 01:07:34,792
It was like a fear
came over him.
996
01:07:34,875 --> 01:07:36,291
I don't know why he said it,
997
01:07:36,375 --> 01:07:39,291
but it kind of made me
nervous too, like,
998
01:07:39,375 --> 01:07:41,000
"Who wants to hurt you?"
999
01:08:04,625 --> 01:08:07,458
Everybody knew who he was.
1000
01:08:07,542 --> 01:08:12,500
I intubated him myself
to make sure that his airway
1001
01:08:12,583 --> 01:08:14,208
was established safely
1002
01:08:14,291 --> 01:08:18,125
without damaging
that wonderful voice.
1003
01:08:18,959 --> 01:08:21,291
My mother called me.
1004
01:08:21,375 --> 01:08:22,959
What they had heard on the news
1005
01:08:23,041 --> 01:08:24,750
was that there was a girl
in the car with Ted
1006
01:08:24,834 --> 01:08:27,792
and everybody thought it was me.
1007
01:08:27,875 --> 01:08:31,000
You know, you're just like
in shock for a moment
1008
01:08:31,083 --> 01:08:35,083
and, you know,
you just have to sit still,
1009
01:08:35,166 --> 01:08:36,834
say, "What do I do?"
1010
01:08:39,667 --> 01:08:41,458
I get out of the cab
1011
01:08:41,542 --> 01:08:43,250
and go through
the hospital revolving door
1012
01:08:43,333 --> 01:08:47,041
and the doctors are already
doing a press conference.
1013
01:08:47,125 --> 01:08:49,917
We don't know the answer
because only time will tell us.
1014
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,041
Only time will tell
the neurosurgeon.
1015
01:08:52,125 --> 01:08:54,959
He has some limitation
of movement in his arms.
1016
01:08:55,041 --> 01:08:58,125
He is able to move parts
of his arms.
1017
01:08:58,208 --> 01:09:01,667
We can't define it any more
than that because it's uh...
1018
01:09:01,750 --> 01:09:05,375
- It's not stable at the moment.
- Not his hands?
1019
01:09:05,458 --> 01:09:06,417
He broke his neck.
1020
01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:10,834
If you think of
the spinal column as a tube,
1021
01:09:10,959 --> 01:09:14,250
if you tear it
and then shift it,
1022
01:09:14,333 --> 01:09:17,792
whatever's running through
the middle gets squished.
1023
01:09:17,834 --> 01:09:21,709
Once a certain level of damage
1024
01:09:21,792 --> 01:09:26,166
has happened to the spine
and it's unrecoverable...
1025
01:09:27,667 --> 01:09:30,709
I got off the elevator
and Karen and the doctor
1026
01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:33,375
and Mrs. Pendergrass were there.
1027
01:09:33,458 --> 01:09:37,083
And, um, they took me in a
room, they said, "Listen, um,
1028
01:09:37,166 --> 01:09:40,792
Teddy's not gonna walk again.
1029
01:09:40,875 --> 01:09:44,917
We're going in the room now
to tell him." And I... Whoa.
1030
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,125
I went in.
Teddy was lying on a table.
1031
01:09:49,208 --> 01:09:50,750
Strapped down.
1032
01:09:50,834 --> 01:09:53,834
He was crying a lot,
he was very upset.
1033
01:09:53,917 --> 01:09:57,583
And I almost fainted there
in the room. I mean, I had to...
1034
01:09:57,667 --> 01:10:00,542
I had to sit down on the floor
because it just...
1035
01:10:00,625 --> 01:10:02,208
You don't think
it will ever happen
1036
01:10:02,291 --> 01:10:05,417
until reality sets in
and just seeing him that way,
1037
01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:07,125
I was pretty woozy.
1038
01:10:07,208 --> 01:10:11,166
His eyes were closed
and it was the weirdest thing.
1039
01:10:11,250 --> 01:10:13,417
He heard us come in and sort of
opened his eyes and...
1040
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:18,250
The doctor said, "Can you hear
us? If you can, blink once."
1041
01:10:18,333 --> 01:10:19,417
And he blinked.
1042
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:24,458
And, um, we told him
that he would never walk again,
1043
01:10:24,542 --> 01:10:26,959
and that he had to start
his rehabilitation,
1044
01:10:27,041 --> 01:10:28,291
but he was gonna live,
1045
01:10:28,375 --> 01:10:31,083
and we were gonna
get through this with him.
1046
01:10:31,959 --> 01:10:33,917
And that was rough.
1047
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,500
It was the toughest moment
I've...
1048
01:10:39,166 --> 01:10:42,875
Yeah. That was tough.
1049
01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:54,291
I pulled myself together
and you couldn't move him
1050
01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:58,667
because he was pinned in
and you couldn't get...
1051
01:10:58,750 --> 01:11:00,166
So the back of his head,
1052
01:11:00,250 --> 01:11:04,291
I just ran my finger
under his hair like that.
1053
01:11:06,041 --> 01:11:09,333
And that was satisfaction
to him.
1054
01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:16,250
We were doing a show
in Charlotte
1055
01:11:16,333 --> 01:11:19,083
and I went to bed early
so I could get up.
1056
01:11:19,166 --> 01:11:21,208
We had to be at the airport
six o'clock in the morning
1057
01:11:21,291 --> 01:11:25,000
and four o'clock
in the morning the phone rang.
1058
01:11:25,083 --> 01:11:27,500
They said, "Turn on the radio,
turn on the radio."
1059
01:11:27,583 --> 01:11:29,458
So I turned on the radio
1060
01:11:29,542 --> 01:11:31,792
and then that's how we heard
what had happened.
1061
01:11:31,875 --> 01:11:36,417
They said Teddy Pendergrass
was in a very bad accident,
1062
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:39,834
was paralyzed
from the waist down.
1063
01:11:39,917 --> 01:11:43,709
It was like,
you got to be joking, you know.
1064
01:11:43,792 --> 01:11:47,041
- I couldn't believe it.
- Unbelievable.
1065
01:11:47,125 --> 01:11:50,959
You know, it's like, so I um...
1066
01:11:55,667 --> 01:11:59,667
I called Henry and said,
"Teddy was in a car accident?"
1067
01:11:59,750 --> 01:12:02,041
He said,
"Yeah, we're gonna leave later
1068
01:12:02,125 --> 01:12:03,333
because I don't know how..."
1069
01:12:03,417 --> 01:12:04,750
None of us knew it was that bad.
1070
01:12:04,834 --> 01:12:06,834
- That serious.
- None of us knew it.
1071
01:12:06,917 --> 01:12:11,208
And he called back later and
said we're not going anywhere.
1072
01:12:11,250 --> 01:12:14,041
- And I was like, wow.
- We never went anywhere again.
1073
01:12:14,125 --> 01:12:18,959
♪ But those days are gone ♪
1074
01:12:19,041 --> 01:12:22,542
♪ Don't leave me ♪
1075
01:12:22,625 --> 01:12:27,709
♪ Here alone ♪
1076
01:12:29,375 --> 01:12:34,875
♪ So I'm standing here,
standing here ♪
1077
01:12:35,875 --> 01:12:40,667
♪ All by myself ♪
1078
01:12:41,333 --> 01:12:44,333
♪ Don't wanna be ♪
1079
01:12:45,667 --> 01:12:50,291
♪ All by myself anymore ♪
1080
01:12:51,542 --> 01:12:54,166
He had everything he wanted.
1081
01:12:54,250 --> 01:12:57,208
He thought
he was indestructible.
1082
01:12:57,291 --> 01:13:01,458
But then most young men
of that age,
1083
01:13:01,542 --> 01:13:04,750
you have a certain amount
of fame and money,
1084
01:13:04,834 --> 01:13:06,375
you think nothing
can happen to you.
1085
01:13:07,583 --> 01:13:11,125
And what happened to him
was the cruelest of all
1086
01:13:11,208 --> 01:13:13,709
because he became a prisoner
in his own self.
1087
01:13:13,792 --> 01:13:17,917
♪ All by ♪
1088
01:13:23,041 --> 01:13:27,417
♪ My ♪
1089
01:13:28,792 --> 01:13:34,000
♪ Self ♪
1090
01:13:38,125 --> 01:13:43,375
♪ If you don't know me by now ♪
1091
01:13:45,792 --> 01:13:47,500
Thank you.
1092
01:13:47,583 --> 01:13:52,959
♪ You will never, never, never
know me ♪
1093
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,500
I was 11 years old, sixth grade,
1094
01:14:00,583 --> 01:14:06,166
and watching my teacher
sob and cry.
1095
01:14:06,250 --> 01:14:11,125
I never saw anyone, especially
black people, this devastated.
1096
01:14:12,250 --> 01:14:14,458
They weren't going to school.
1097
01:14:14,542 --> 01:14:17,083
Oh, God, we were next door
to Philly International.
1098
01:14:17,208 --> 01:14:19,458
Everybody was devastated.
1099
01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:25,750
- We were in Jamaica.
- We were in Jamaica.
1100
01:14:25,834 --> 01:14:28,917
Writing songs for him
for his next album.
1101
01:14:30,583 --> 01:14:32,875
Yeah. That was a sad day.
1102
01:14:32,959 --> 01:14:35,083
All day, the talk on the street
was about Teddy.
1103
01:14:35,166 --> 01:14:37,417
I really liked him.
1104
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:40,500
I thought he was really
a good singer and a good man.
1105
01:14:40,583 --> 01:14:41,750
Really sorry.
1106
01:14:41,834 --> 01:14:43,166
I just hope he sings again,
that's all.
1107
01:14:43,250 --> 01:14:45,917
I'm praying for him a lot
1108
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,417
and I hope for a speedy
recovery because he is my man.
1109
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:50,709
Steady Teddy.
1110
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:58,458
He had been drinking
1111
01:14:58,542 --> 01:15:01,250
but he wasn't intoxicated. No.
1112
01:15:01,333 --> 01:15:04,750
I would not have allowed him
to drive me
1113
01:15:04,834 --> 01:15:06,792
in his car
if he had been drunk.
1114
01:15:06,875 --> 01:15:09,625
They didn't
find anything in his system.
1115
01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:13,083
They didn't say he had drugs
in him. I didn't.
1116
01:15:13,166 --> 01:15:17,542
He had had trouble with that car
ever since he bought it.
1117
01:15:17,625 --> 01:15:18,959
It had no brakes.
1118
01:15:19,041 --> 01:15:22,250
A lot of people
believed that this accident
1119
01:15:22,333 --> 01:15:25,458
was a setup to get rid of him.
1120
01:15:25,542 --> 01:15:29,083
I think the car
was sabotaged, I think it was.
1121
01:15:29,166 --> 01:15:31,083
Because of other cars
that he had.
1122
01:15:31,166 --> 01:15:32,583
I mean, every car that you have,
1123
01:15:32,667 --> 01:15:35,792
something's gonna happen
to the car? Really?
1124
01:15:35,875 --> 01:15:37,792
He pulled his Corvette out
one day
1125
01:15:37,875 --> 01:15:39,500
and the brake lines were cut.
1126
01:15:39,583 --> 01:15:44,291
He had a Mercedes, 450 SL,
brake lines were cut.
1127
01:15:44,375 --> 01:15:47,041
A friend
said it was an organization
1128
01:15:47,125 --> 01:15:49,667
that wanted to kidnap him
for ransom
1129
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:52,542
so all types of things
were happening.
1130
01:15:52,625 --> 01:15:55,792
He didn't know who his friends
were or who his enemies were.
1131
01:15:55,875 --> 01:16:00,125
I don't put anything past
show business during that time
1132
01:16:00,208 --> 01:16:03,125
in Philadelphia.
1133
01:16:03,208 --> 01:16:06,625
♪ He's my man ♪
1134
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:07,625
He lived a big life
1135
01:16:07,709 --> 01:16:10,500
and he had really used up
most of his funds.
1136
01:16:10,583 --> 01:16:13,333
- More?
- ♪ Girls, let me turn you on ♪
1137
01:16:13,417 --> 01:16:15,208
♪ To the big Bull buzz ♪
1138
01:16:15,291 --> 01:16:16,500
♪ One sip will make you
1139
01:16:16,583 --> 01:16:19,250
♪ It's got more taste
than beer ♪
1140
01:16:19,333 --> 01:16:23,250
We had a very large beer
company that sponsored Teddy.
1141
01:16:23,333 --> 01:16:24,291
I told them
what happened to Teddy
1142
01:16:24,375 --> 01:16:26,583
and we were
gonna have to cancel
1143
01:16:26,667 --> 01:16:30,250
and would they put together
an endowment for the kids,
1144
01:16:30,333 --> 01:16:33,000
and they said, "Yes,
we'll definitely do something.
1145
01:16:33,083 --> 01:16:35,500
We'll do some kind of a fund,
1146
01:16:35,583 --> 01:16:37,333
some kind
of charitable donation."
1147
01:16:37,417 --> 01:16:38,750
Then I woke up in the morning
1148
01:16:38,834 --> 01:16:42,709
and the newspaper said
the girl in the car was a guy.
1149
01:16:42,792 --> 01:16:46,875
And I knew I'd never hear
from the beer company again!
1150
01:16:46,959 --> 01:16:48,834
There was a police lady
1151
01:16:48,917 --> 01:16:52,375
and she said that she had
arrested me before.
1152
01:16:52,458 --> 01:16:56,417
And she knew my past, that's
how I got into the paper.
1153
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,667
Everybody
believed it was a woman.
1154
01:17:06,750 --> 01:17:08,542
She was striking.
1155
01:17:08,625 --> 01:17:12,333
I wouldn't dispute
how impressive she looked.
1156
01:17:12,417 --> 01:17:14,834
And my assumption was,
knowing Teddy,
1157
01:17:14,917 --> 01:17:17,583
that he was driving with her,
1158
01:17:17,667 --> 01:17:19,500
put his hand down
between her legs,
1159
01:17:19,583 --> 01:17:22,959
felt the penis
and had the accident.
1160
01:17:23,041 --> 01:17:26,750
I started hormones
when I came to Philadelphia.
1161
01:17:26,834 --> 01:17:31,041
And five years after I started
hormones I had my surgery.
1162
01:17:31,125 --> 01:17:33,750
That was 1977. I'm a woman.
1163
01:17:33,834 --> 01:17:39,417
I've been a woman, completely
a woman, for 40 years now.
1164
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:42,542
So my whole theory
went right out the window.
1165
01:17:42,625 --> 01:17:46,000
♪ I used to have
lots of money ♪
1166
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,083
♪ I had 'em in big old stacks ♪
1167
01:17:49,166 --> 01:17:52,083
We needed to generate
money for his family.
1168
01:17:52,166 --> 01:17:53,166
I sat through hundreds
of tapes
1169
01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:56,041
and we found tapes that
hadn't been released.
1170
01:17:56,125 --> 01:17:58,667
Unfortunately,
in every case, um...
1171
01:17:58,750 --> 01:18:03,291
his partners in those records
who had the power
1172
01:18:03,375 --> 01:18:05,583
chose not to pay him.
1173
01:18:05,667 --> 01:18:09,333
♪ All the things I wanted ♪
1174
01:18:09,417 --> 01:18:11,959
♪ I don't have anymore ♪
1175
01:18:12,041 --> 01:18:14,500
When one person is your company
1176
01:18:14,583 --> 01:18:16,542
and he pays everybody
1177
01:18:16,625 --> 01:18:20,125
and then something happens
to him, everything goes down.
1178
01:18:20,166 --> 01:18:21,750
Shep stayed with him.
1179
01:18:21,834 --> 01:18:24,500
You know, the record labels,
they left, you know.
1180
01:18:24,583 --> 01:18:25,542
Everyone else left.
1181
01:18:25,625 --> 01:18:28,250
The people that really cared
about him stayed.
1182
01:18:28,333 --> 01:18:30,000
And that was few.
1183
01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:35,959
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
1184
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:46,709
♪ Happy birthday, dear Teddy ♪
1185
01:18:48,375 --> 01:18:50,750
I'm primarily an opera singer.
1186
01:18:50,834 --> 01:18:54,542
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
1187
01:18:54,625 --> 01:18:58,917
Teddy had a big problem
but it could have been worse.
1188
01:19:00,166 --> 01:19:02,667
If it had been a little higher,
1189
01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:04,875
he would not have been able
to breathe
1190
01:19:04,959 --> 01:19:08,834
and would have been tracheotomy
and respirator dependent.
1191
01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:05,250
He would just be quiet
and keep to himself, you know?
1192
01:20:05,333 --> 01:20:09,208
He had a sad look on his face
and people had to feed him
1193
01:20:10,333 --> 01:20:14,875
and he was just sitting there.
1194
01:20:14,959 --> 01:20:18,917
He was paralyzed forever and I
didn't want him to be like that.
1195
01:20:19,834 --> 01:20:23,208
I wanted it to be like
the old times.
1196
01:20:23,291 --> 01:20:27,208
He said if I
want to commit suicide, I
couldn't.
1197
01:20:27,291 --> 01:20:29,375
And I realized he was correct.
1198
01:20:29,458 --> 01:20:32,417
I didn't think about it
until after. He couldn't.
1199
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:35,959
He couldn't.
1200
01:20:37,834 --> 01:20:39,709
He was very depressed.
1201
01:20:39,792 --> 01:20:42,500
He had sleeping pills to take
to sleep at night,
1202
01:20:42,583 --> 01:20:44,500
and he would ask me to give him
1203
01:20:44,583 --> 01:20:47,125
all the sleeping pills
and I was like, "No. No way."
1204
01:20:47,208 --> 01:20:49,166
You know, we cried,
and we boo-hooed,
1205
01:20:49,250 --> 01:20:52,792
and I tried to read the Bible
and make sense of all this,
1206
01:20:52,875 --> 01:20:55,834
and he kept saying, "I will
never be able to walk again."
1207
01:20:55,917 --> 01:20:59,291
And I said, "But you're alive."
1208
01:20:59,375 --> 01:21:03,208
♪ Is this my beginning? ♪
1209
01:21:03,291 --> 01:21:05,625
♪ Or is this the end? ♪
1210
01:21:05,709 --> 01:21:09,542
♪ When will I see you again? ♪
1211
01:21:09,625 --> 01:21:13,000
♪ When will I see you again? ♪
1212
01:21:13,083 --> 01:21:14,959
♪ Sweet, sweet love ♪
1213
01:21:15,041 --> 01:21:17,291
♪ When will I see you again? ♪
1214
01:21:17,375 --> 01:21:20,291
Dr. Gottlieb, God thank you.
1215
01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:23,917
Dr. Gottlieb
got in touch with him
1216
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,250
and told him,
"No, Teddy, don't give up."
1217
01:21:31,125 --> 01:21:34,625
I have a visceral reaction
1218
01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:36,875
when I hear things like that.
1219
01:21:38,333 --> 01:21:40,375
My heart breaks
1220
01:21:40,458 --> 01:21:44,125
and it did for him
because I knew
1221
01:21:44,208 --> 01:21:48,500
where he came from and where
he was going to end up.
1222
01:21:49,083 --> 01:21:51,375
To be honest with you,
1223
01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:54,917
it was just a few years
after my accident.
1224
01:21:57,750 --> 01:22:00,709
I knew
what he was going through.
1225
01:22:00,792 --> 01:22:05,834
But I was also in the depths
of my depression,
1226
01:22:07,792 --> 01:22:12,875
and at the deepest level,
1227
01:22:12,959 --> 01:22:18,083
saving his life
felt like saving my own.
1228
01:22:19,333 --> 01:22:23,667
And an average therapist
1229
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:24,542
who had these feelings
1230
01:22:24,625 --> 01:22:28,208
would not treat that patient.
1231
01:22:28,291 --> 01:22:30,291
Probably shouldn't have.
1232
01:22:31,792 --> 01:22:32,917
But this was different.
1233
01:22:35,250 --> 01:22:40,208
There were no
quadriplegic therapists.
1234
01:22:40,291 --> 01:22:42,959
I was the only one around.
1235
01:22:45,125 --> 01:22:47,041
He finally decided
1236
01:22:47,125 --> 01:22:50,917
that he was gonna
to take his life.
1237
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,250
But I said to him,
"Teddy," I said,
1238
01:22:54,333 --> 01:22:55,583
"if you're going to do this,
1239
01:22:55,667 --> 01:23:00,041
you have a moral obligation
1240
01:23:00,125 --> 01:23:03,959
to talk with your mother,
Karen and your son
1241
01:23:04,041 --> 01:23:06,750
about this decision."
1242
01:23:06,834 --> 01:23:10,083
And he agreed. They all came in.
1243
01:23:10,166 --> 01:23:12,417
We had a family session.
1244
01:23:12,917 --> 01:23:15,667
They all cried.
1245
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:19,333
They all understandably
tried to talk him out of it.
1246
01:23:19,417 --> 01:23:23,208
They begged him,
especially his poor son.
1247
01:23:23,542 --> 01:23:25,709
Um...
1248
01:23:25,792 --> 01:23:30,208
And he didn't cry
in that session.
1249
01:23:32,041 --> 01:23:33,083
Um, which is more troubling.
1250
01:23:35,083 --> 01:23:37,792
So at the end of the session
Teddy says,
1251
01:23:37,875 --> 01:23:40,417
"I probably
won't see you again."
1252
01:23:41,041 --> 01:23:44,083
And I heard that word.
1253
01:23:44,542 --> 01:23:46,959
"Probably."
1254
01:23:47,041 --> 01:23:51,166
And I said, "Teddy,"
1255
01:23:51,250 --> 01:23:54,083
I said,
"Get your ass back in here."
1256
01:23:54,166 --> 01:23:57,667
So he came in. I said,
"What do you mean, probably?"
1257
01:23:57,750 --> 01:24:01,583
And that's when I made
the proposal to him.
1258
01:24:01,667 --> 01:24:07,458
I said, "We're gonna
stage a funeral for you
1259
01:24:07,542 --> 01:24:11,542
so you'll know
what it's like for them."
1260
01:24:11,625 --> 01:24:15,875
Little Teddy, Mom,
1261
01:24:15,959 --> 01:24:17,166
myself and Teddy
1262
01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:19,959
had to invite all of the people
we felt, you know,
1263
01:24:20,041 --> 01:24:23,709
were our closest friends,
family, whoever.
1264
01:24:23,792 --> 01:24:25,709
And he put a sheet over Teddy.
1265
01:24:25,792 --> 01:24:27,667
And he said, "OK, you're dead."
1266
01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:31,083
And he said,
"You can't say anything,"
1267
01:24:31,125 --> 01:24:33,917
and one by one
we had to walk up
1268
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,208
and express to Teddy
1269
01:24:36,291 --> 01:24:40,625
what we felt about him taking...
about him being dead.
1270
01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:44,375
Our job was to tell him...
1271
01:24:45,792 --> 01:24:49,375
how we feel about him and what
life would be like without him.
1272
01:24:49,458 --> 01:24:54,000
I remember a lot of
people being mad, angry, hurt,
1273
01:24:54,083 --> 01:24:57,041
because everybody felt that
he had so much to live for.
1274
01:24:57,125 --> 01:25:00,250
And they took that sheet
off of his face.
1275
01:25:00,333 --> 01:25:05,417
And Teddy sat up in that chair
and said, "I don't wanna die."
1276
01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:07,250
He said, "I want to live."
1277
01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:09,542
I don't know what
that did to him
1278
01:25:09,625 --> 01:25:13,208
but death was not even
a question after that.
1279
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,500
He was determined
to be able to sing.
1280
01:25:37,583 --> 01:25:42,458
Everybody with whom
he consulted except for me,
1281
01:25:42,542 --> 01:25:44,750
told him it was impossible.
1282
01:25:48,667 --> 01:25:52,750
A couple of months after
it happened, I tried singing.
1283
01:25:52,834 --> 01:25:54,333
I was scared to death.
1284
01:25:54,417 --> 01:25:56,542
And I remember
it was in the afternoon,
1285
01:25:56,625 --> 01:25:58,250
there was a coffee commercial.
1286
01:26:04,959 --> 01:26:09,291
And I said, "You know,
there's... Doggone it, you know?
1287
01:26:09,375 --> 01:26:11,000
It's a possibility, yeah.
1288
01:26:11,083 --> 01:26:13,792
You know,
if given the opportunity,
1289
01:26:13,875 --> 01:26:15,291
yeah, we can do this."
1290
01:26:15,375 --> 01:26:19,291
I thought it was unlikely that
he was going to be able to sing
1291
01:26:19,375 --> 01:26:22,792
fully the same way
that he had before.
1292
01:26:22,875 --> 01:26:24,208
But that we would get him
singing again
1293
01:26:24,291 --> 01:26:27,667
and then he would have
to decide whether that was
1294
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:31,083
a good enough sound
to go back into the studio
1295
01:26:31,166 --> 01:26:32,542
and to go out in public.
1296
01:26:32,625 --> 01:26:36,291
So the next thing I did was get
a hold of all the video tapes
1297
01:26:36,375 --> 01:26:39,291
that I could to study his voice
and his technique
1298
01:26:39,375 --> 01:26:43,625
and find out what we were
trying to restore.
1299
01:26:43,709 --> 01:26:48,125
♪ Taking the bumps and the
bruises and all the things ♪
1300
01:26:48,208 --> 01:26:51,291
♪ Of a two-time loser ♪
1301
01:26:51,417 --> 01:26:54,750
♪ Trying to hold on,
faith is gone ♪
1302
01:26:54,834 --> 01:26:56,709
♪ It's just another sad song ♪
1303
01:26:56,792 --> 01:26:58,542
It's not a coincidence
1304
01:26:58,625 --> 01:27:00,750
that Teddy Pendergrass's
accident
1305
01:27:00,834 --> 01:27:03,834
and the slow, quiet fade-out
of Philly International
1306
01:27:03,917 --> 01:27:07,375
happened at the same time.
1307
01:27:07,458 --> 01:27:08,875
Yeah, they've had hits
with Patti LaBelle
1308
01:27:08,959 --> 01:27:12,500
and The O'Jays, you know, since,
1309
01:27:12,583 --> 01:27:16,333
but it wasn't quite the same.
1310
01:27:16,417 --> 01:27:18,208
- It wasn't the same.
- No, it wasn't the same.
1311
01:27:18,291 --> 01:27:20,250
- The company wasn't the same.
- No.
1312
01:27:20,333 --> 01:27:24,000
It was very difficult because
1313
01:27:24,083 --> 01:27:28,250
the Kenny and Leon record label
was distributed by CBS.
1314
01:27:28,333 --> 01:27:33,000
And there was a lot of fighting
back and forth.
1315
01:27:33,041 --> 01:27:36,417
With the accident
and not being able to secure
1316
01:27:36,500 --> 01:27:38,041
another deal with CBS Records,
1317
01:27:38,083 --> 01:27:42,667
time had run out. For everybody.
1318
01:27:42,750 --> 01:27:45,917
Your record company
left, they walked away, right?
1319
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,208
So long, you can't do it for us
anymore, goodbye.
1320
01:27:49,291 --> 01:27:50,583
That must have hurt.
1321
01:27:50,667 --> 01:27:54,166
Tremendously. Tremendously.
1322
01:27:54,250 --> 01:27:57,875
It was depressing how people
1323
01:27:57,959 --> 01:28:03,375
thinking he had no career left
just were completely uh...
1324
01:28:03,458 --> 01:28:05,959
without compassion.
1325
01:28:06,041 --> 01:28:09,542
'Cause they thought everything
was in the past, not the future.
1326
01:28:09,625 --> 01:28:11,667
♪ It's just another sad song ♪
1327
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:14,375
I hoped that
he'd be able to sing again
1328
01:28:14,458 --> 01:28:17,417
and Teddy was very determined.
1329
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:21,709
♪ 'Cause it looks like
to me another ♪
1330
01:28:23,166 --> 01:28:26,083
Teddy's vocal cords were fine
1331
01:28:26,166 --> 01:28:30,500
but the vocal cords are only
a small part of the voice.
1332
01:28:30,583 --> 01:28:32,125
You have to blow through it
1333
01:28:32,208 --> 01:28:35,917
and you do that with the air
in your lungs
1334
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,417
controlled by the muscles of
your chest and abdomen and back.
1335
01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:44,291
♪ Ohh... ♪
1336
01:28:45,709 --> 01:28:47,458
Teddy couldn't do that.
1337
01:28:47,542 --> 01:28:51,750
♪ Oh, love me ♪
1338
01:28:51,834 --> 01:28:53,834
Shep Gordon,
Teddy's manager, called me
1339
01:28:53,917 --> 01:28:57,583
and told me what had happened
at his previous record company.
1340
01:28:57,667 --> 01:29:02,417
They were unsure about going
forward with Teddy Pendergrass.
1341
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:06,959
I was not really aware of how
serious Teddy's problems were.
1342
01:29:07,041 --> 01:29:08,291
I had heard the rumors.
1343
01:29:08,375 --> 01:29:10,625
I asked Shep,
"Shep, what is the truth?"
1344
01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:13,500
He told me what the truth is.
I said, "I am in."
1345
01:29:13,583 --> 01:29:17,834
Teddy had some
residual arm fluxion.
1346
01:29:17,917 --> 01:29:21,291
He was able to use his biceps.
1347
01:29:21,875 --> 01:29:23,959
So we created for him
1348
01:29:24,083 --> 01:29:27,875
a belt-like apparatus
that went around his waist
1349
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,000
so when he needed more support
for his singing voice,
1350
01:29:31,083 --> 01:29:32,667
he flexed his arms
1351
01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:36,875
and everything around
his abdomen and back tightened
1352
01:29:36,959 --> 01:29:38,333
and he was able to sing again.
1353
01:29:38,417 --> 01:29:41,834
This is his first
live television interview
1354
01:29:41,959 --> 01:29:44,333
since the car he was driving
crashed 26 months ago.
1355
01:29:44,417 --> 01:29:45,667
He was left paralyzed.
1356
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:49,917
Teddy got his voice back
and he regained some strength.
1357
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,750
I have accomplished something
that um...
1358
01:29:53,834 --> 01:29:57,917
was at first unsure
that I'd be able to do.
1359
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,375
People would say,
"Oh, the guy's dead, he's gone.
1360
01:30:00,458 --> 01:30:03,917
He won't be back. That's it
for him. Wash-out. He's gone."
1361
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,333
And I set out to prove
1362
01:30:06,417 --> 01:30:11,083
that nobody will determine
when I'm done but me.
1363
01:30:11,166 --> 01:30:14,750
I went back to Bob Krasnow and I
said I think we can do an album.
1364
01:30:16,417 --> 01:30:21,000
This album is a product
of two years of thinking.
1365
01:30:21,083 --> 01:30:23,041
I've received a lot of love
1366
01:30:23,125 --> 01:30:25,333
and I hope to give that love
back through my music.
1367
01:30:25,417 --> 01:30:29,333
♪ I'm a tried
and true romantic ♪
1368
01:30:29,417 --> 01:30:33,583
My focus was
I have millions of women
1369
01:30:33,667 --> 01:30:37,750
who love Teddy,
who know about the tragedy.
1370
01:30:37,834 --> 01:30:41,208
They've probably listened
to his old records every day
1371
01:30:41,291 --> 01:30:43,875
for the last three years
and cried,
1372
01:30:43,959 --> 01:30:46,166
and he's now going to speak
to that one person.
1373
01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:49,667
Teddy's going to talk to her.
1374
01:30:49,750 --> 01:30:51,417
♪ In my time ♪
1375
01:30:51,500 --> 01:30:56,000
♪ I've lived and loved
so much ♪
1376
01:30:56,083 --> 01:31:00,000
♪ And through
each high and low ♪
1377
01:31:00,083 --> 01:31:02,625
♪ I've let my heart
be touched ♪
1378
01:31:05,333 --> 01:31:10,125
♪ In my time
there isn't much I've missed ♪
1379
01:31:10,208 --> 01:31:14,750
The words to the song were "I've
never loved like this before."
1380
01:31:14,834 --> 01:31:18,166
Knowing every woman
would start crying immediately.
1381
01:31:18,250 --> 01:31:20,583
♪ I've never loved
like this... ♪
1382
01:31:20,667 --> 01:31:22,291
And we go
to his high-school gymnasium
1383
01:31:22,375 --> 01:31:24,583
and we make
a very conscious decision
1384
01:31:24,667 --> 01:31:28,458
we're gonna show him in the
wheelchair, not gonna hide it.
1385
01:31:28,542 --> 01:31:30,875
♪ In my time ♪
1386
01:31:30,959 --> 01:31:35,250
♪ I've lived and loved
so much ♪
1387
01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:38,250
♪ And through
each high and low ♪
1388
01:31:38,333 --> 01:31:42,625
♪ I've let my heart
be touched ♪
1389
01:31:44,417 --> 01:31:47,291
♪ In my time ♪
1390
01:31:47,375 --> 01:31:50,166
♪ There isn't much I missed ♪
1391
01:31:50,250 --> 01:31:53,500
♪ I've seen love come and go ♪
1392
01:31:54,250 --> 01:31:56,250
♪ But heaven knows ♪
1393
01:31:56,333 --> 01:31:58,959
♪ I've never loved like this ♪
1394
01:31:59,083 --> 01:32:02,625
♪ In my time ♪
1395
01:32:04,166 --> 01:32:05,041
Teddy!
1396
01:32:05,125 --> 01:32:09,458
- We got a surprise for you.
- Holy shit!
1397
01:32:09,542 --> 01:32:11,000
- What is this?
1398
01:32:11,083 --> 01:32:12,917
A little gold record for you.
1399
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,750
Teddy, we're really pleased
1400
01:32:14,834 --> 01:32:16,959
to give you your first
gold record with us
1401
01:32:17,041 --> 01:32:20,959
and we're glad that at least
part of the road to recovery
1402
01:32:21,041 --> 01:32:22,750
is paved in gold. God bless.
1403
01:32:22,834 --> 01:32:26,542
Ah! Thank you. Thank you.
1404
01:32:28,792 --> 01:32:33,041
♪ When the whole world
seems against you ♪
1405
01:32:34,625 --> 01:32:40,166
♪ And your whole life
seems unborn ♪
1406
01:32:40,250 --> 01:32:43,875
♪ When all you ever wanted ♪
1407
01:32:43,959 --> 01:32:45,500
♪ Was a little peace ♪
1408
01:32:45,583 --> 01:32:49,291
♪ I can understand
just how you feel ♪
1409
01:32:49,375 --> 01:32:53,875
♪ Don't let this cold world ♪
1410
01:32:53,959 --> 01:32:57,125
♪ Get you down ♪
1411
01:32:58,458 --> 01:33:00,875
♪ Be strong, hold on ♪
1412
01:33:00,959 --> 01:33:05,083
♪ Don't let this cold world ♪
1413
01:33:05,166 --> 01:33:06,375
♪ Get you down ♪
1414
01:33:06,458 --> 01:33:08,709
♪ Don't let it
get you down... ♪
1415
01:33:08,792 --> 01:33:12,250
Taking performance away from me
was bad enough.
1416
01:33:12,333 --> 01:33:15,375
I'm a performer by heart.
1417
01:33:15,458 --> 01:33:17,250
That's what I've been doing
since I'm two years old.
1418
01:33:17,333 --> 01:33:19,875
Been doing it 32 years.
1419
01:33:19,959 --> 01:33:23,166
So I had to come to grips
with not being able to perform.
1420
01:33:23,250 --> 01:33:25,917
How painful is that for you now?
1421
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,583
I haven't said
that I won't perform.
1422
01:33:28,667 --> 01:33:31,250
At the time I didn't know
whether or not I will or won't.
1423
01:33:31,333 --> 01:33:31,959
I'm still not saying.
1424
01:33:37,875 --> 01:33:41,959
Live Aid got announced
and one of the sites was Philly.
1425
01:33:42,041 --> 01:33:43,542
One song in the middle
of Live Aid
1426
01:33:43,625 --> 01:33:47,000
and it's goose-bump moment
for everybody.
1427
01:33:47,959 --> 01:33:51,542
He was so scared and everybody,
1428
01:33:51,625 --> 01:33:54,542
we were so reassuring of him.
1429
01:33:54,625 --> 01:33:57,208
"Dad, you can do it
and we're so happy for you.
1430
01:33:57,291 --> 01:34:00,208
You can do it, we love you."
1431
01:34:00,291 --> 01:34:03,083
We were like a mini entourage,
mini family entourage.
1432
01:34:03,166 --> 01:34:05,250
We would get behind
and get beside him
1433
01:34:05,333 --> 01:34:06,917
and went out
and a number of artists
1434
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:10,583
and other entertainers were
excited to see him, see him out.
1435
01:34:10,667 --> 01:34:15,125
You know, he always had
a certain standard,
1436
01:34:15,208 --> 01:34:17,333
and he wanted to continue
that standard
1437
01:34:17,417 --> 01:34:18,875
so of course he was nervous.
1438
01:34:18,959 --> 01:34:21,458
How would people receive him
in the wheelchair?
1439
01:34:21,542 --> 01:34:26,583
Oh, he was nervous,
he was... nervous.
1440
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:27,917
I was nervous
1441
01:34:28,041 --> 01:34:31,667
so I can't imagine
what he was feeling
1442
01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:32,959
but because he was our friend,
1443
01:34:33,041 --> 01:34:35,750
if he thought he was ready
then we thought he was ready.
1444
01:34:35,834 --> 01:34:40,166
Teddy went out
at the bottom of the ramp
1445
01:34:40,250 --> 01:34:41,750
and he was looking really slick.
1446
01:34:41,834 --> 01:34:43,500
But I could see something
was wrong.
1447
01:34:43,583 --> 01:34:44,834
I went over to him and he said,
1448
01:34:44,917 --> 01:34:49,417
"I don't think I can do this.
I can't pull this off.
1449
01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:52,625
I don't think I have the power
to pull it off."
1450
01:34:52,709 --> 01:34:55,208
I said, "Well, we're here,
we've gotta do it."
1451
01:34:55,291 --> 01:34:56,166
And he said, "I don't know."
1452
01:34:56,250 --> 01:34:57,834
I said, "Teddy, I'm wheeling
you out there.
1453
01:34:57,917 --> 01:35:01,834
You don't have to sing
but you're gonna be there."
1454
01:35:01,917 --> 01:35:04,166
Put your hands together
1455
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:07,166
and give a big round
of applause
1456
01:35:07,250 --> 01:35:09,583
to Mr. Teddy Pendergrass!
1457
01:35:16,667 --> 01:35:19,250
When he rolled himself out,
1458
01:35:19,333 --> 01:35:21,542
I remember it was almost
like choreographed,
1459
01:35:21,625 --> 01:35:23,709
we kind of backed away from him.
1460
01:35:23,792 --> 01:35:26,792
And it was such a long applause.
1461
01:35:26,875 --> 01:35:29,375
More applause
than I've ever heard in my life.
1462
01:35:37,208 --> 01:35:40,208
Oh, listen, Ashford,
thank you so much.
1463
01:35:42,875 --> 01:35:45,542
When he rolled out
on that stage,
1464
01:35:45,625 --> 01:35:47,750
everybody just cried.
1465
01:35:47,834 --> 01:35:50,542
We just lost it
1466
01:35:50,625 --> 01:35:53,625
but it was like a happy time.
1467
01:35:53,709 --> 01:35:54,875
We were so proud of him.
1468
01:35:54,959 --> 01:35:56,750
I am truly grateful
to be here today...
1469
01:36:00,667 --> 01:36:03,000
and I want you to know
I feel your love.
1470
01:36:04,875 --> 01:36:09,250
Very glad to be sharing the
stage with Ashford and Simpson.
1471
01:36:11,625 --> 01:36:15,250
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1472
01:36:16,166 --> 01:36:18,959
♪ Somebody's hand ♪
1473
01:36:19,041 --> 01:36:21,792
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1474
01:36:21,875 --> 01:36:24,792
- ♪ If you can ♪
1475
01:36:24,875 --> 01:36:28,083
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1476
01:36:28,166 --> 01:36:30,917
♪ Touch somebody's hand ♪
1477
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,000
It was the perfect song
and it was his personal life.
1478
01:36:35,083 --> 01:36:36,667
You know, he was reaching out.
1479
01:36:36,750 --> 01:36:40,291
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1480
01:36:40,375 --> 01:36:42,166
♪ Somebody's hand ♪
1481
01:36:42,250 --> 01:36:43,250
♪ Somebody ♪
1482
01:36:43,333 --> 01:36:46,792
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1483
01:36:46,834 --> 01:36:48,583
♪ If you can ♪
1484
01:36:48,667 --> 01:36:51,166
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1485
01:36:51,250 --> 01:36:53,792
♪ Somebody's hand ♪
1486
01:36:53,875 --> 01:36:58,125
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1487
01:36:58,250 --> 01:37:01,458
♪ If you can ♪
1488
01:37:03,709 --> 01:37:06,750
♪ Take a little time
from your busy day ♪
1489
01:37:06,834 --> 01:37:09,250
♪ To give encouragement ♪
1490
01:37:09,333 --> 01:37:11,917
♪ To someone
who's lost their way ♪
1491
01:37:14,291 --> 01:37:15,166
♪ Would you do that? ♪
1492
01:37:15,250 --> 01:37:19,375
♪ Or would I be talking
to a stone ♪
1493
01:37:19,458 --> 01:37:22,291
♪ If I asked you
to share a problem ♪
1494
01:37:22,375 --> 01:37:24,792
♪ That's not your own ♪
1495
01:37:25,709 --> 01:37:28,417
♪ Oh, we can change ♪
1496
01:37:28,500 --> 01:37:32,291
♪ If we start giving ♪
1497
01:37:32,375 --> 01:37:35,583
- ♪ Why don't you ♪
- ♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1498
01:37:35,667 --> 01:37:38,000
♪ Touch somebody... ♪
1499
01:37:38,083 --> 01:37:40,500
He was a man that did suffer,
1500
01:37:40,583 --> 01:37:43,625
and like most of us,
1501
01:37:44,917 --> 01:37:49,083
it's not the suffering, it's how
you deal with the suffering.
1502
01:37:50,417 --> 01:37:56,041
And he dealt with it at first
by wanting to die
1503
01:37:56,125 --> 01:37:58,500
and now I watched him
deal with it
1504
01:37:58,583 --> 01:38:02,917
by shifting his outlook
towards life.
1505
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:07,000
When I seen him on
Live Aid, it was, he's back.
1506
01:38:07,083 --> 01:38:12,583
He's back. Wheelchair
or no wheelchair, he's back.
1507
01:38:12,667 --> 01:38:15,208
- ♪ Oh, we can change things ♪
- ♪ Change things ♪
1508
01:38:15,291 --> 01:38:17,083
- ♪ If we start giving ♪
- ♪ Giving ♪
1509
01:38:17,166 --> 01:38:21,041
- ♪ Why don't you ♪
- ♪ Why don't you ♪
1510
01:38:21,125 --> 01:38:24,041
- ♪ Reach out and touch ♪
- ♪ Touch ♪
1511
01:38:24,125 --> 01:38:28,041
- ♪ Somebody's hand ♪
- ♪ Touch somebody's hand ♪
1512
01:38:28,125 --> 01:38:31,000
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1513
01:38:31,083 --> 01:38:34,000
- ♪ If you can ♪
- ♪ Would you reach out ♪
1514
01:38:34,083 --> 01:38:37,166
- ♪ Reach out and touch ♪
- ♪ Touch somebody's ♪
1515
01:38:37,250 --> 01:38:38,417
♪ Somebody's ♪
1516
01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:40,709
♪ Would you touch somebody's ♪
1517
01:38:40,792 --> 01:38:42,875
♪ Touch somebody's ♪
1518
01:38:42,959 --> 01:38:46,041
- ♪ A better place ♪
- ♪ Gotta be a better place ♪
1519
01:38:46,125 --> 01:38:47,625
♪ Reach out and touch ♪
1520
01:38:47,709 --> 01:38:49,917
- ♪ Somebody's hand ♪
- ♪ Somebody's ♪
1521
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,583
♪ Make this world
a better place ♪
1522
01:38:53,667 --> 01:38:58,709
♪ If you can reach out ♪
1523
01:38:58,792 --> 01:39:03,166
♪ And touch ♪
1524
01:39:11,792 --> 01:39:15,083
So many people are afraid
1525
01:39:15,166 --> 01:39:16,375
like if something happens
to them,
1526
01:39:16,458 --> 01:39:21,083
they just give up and he didn't
give up, he was a fighter.
1527
01:39:21,166 --> 01:39:23,792
And we always go,
"Don't we know!"
1528
01:39:23,875 --> 01:39:26,125
So by the time
we got back home,
1529
01:39:26,208 --> 01:39:29,750
his part came on television,
it was now broadcasting
1530
01:39:29,834 --> 01:39:31,250
so we got to see it on TV
1531
01:39:31,291 --> 01:39:35,166
and we're laying there watching
it and he looks at me, said,
1532
01:39:35,250 --> 01:39:38,000
"Why didn't you tell me
I was a blubberbutt?"
1533
01:39:39,333 --> 01:39:43,000
And I'm like, "I didn't even
realize you were that big!"
1534
01:39:43,083 --> 01:39:46,667
So immediately he was like,
"I'm going on a diet."
1535
01:39:52,375 --> 01:39:56,875
Thank you, thank you,
so, so, so, so, so, so.
1536
01:39:58,667 --> 01:40:02,125
Oh, my God! Oh, my God!
1537
01:40:02,208 --> 01:40:04,500
Hey!
1538
01:40:04,583 --> 01:40:09,166
There is a dim
light on all he has accomplished
1539
01:40:09,250 --> 01:40:11,625
and that light
needs to be a lot brighter
1540
01:40:11,709 --> 01:40:13,875
and we need to keep
his legacy alive
1541
01:40:13,959 --> 01:40:15,792
because these
young whippersnappers
1542
01:40:15,875 --> 01:40:17,500
need to see a Teddy Pendergrass
1543
01:40:17,583 --> 01:40:20,834
so they know
how it's supposed to be done.
1544
01:40:20,917 --> 01:40:22,834
We always listened
to his music,
1545
01:40:22,917 --> 01:40:24,208
especially growing up.
1546
01:40:25,458 --> 01:40:27,667
I got to meet
the original band,
1547
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:29,291
original background singers.
1548
01:40:29,375 --> 01:40:33,208
And they are just like so
humble and they know so much.
1549
01:40:33,291 --> 01:40:36,667
I'm in awe because they were
telling me all these stories.
1550
01:40:36,750 --> 01:40:37,125
I was like, wow.
1551
01:40:38,875 --> 01:40:39,834
♪ Wake up, everybody ♪
1552
01:40:39,917 --> 01:40:43,792
♪ No more sleeping in bed ♪
1553
01:40:43,875 --> 01:40:48,667
♪ No more backward thinking,
time for thinking ahead ♪
1554
01:40:48,750 --> 01:40:51,375
♪ The world has changed
so very much ♪
1555
01:40:51,458 --> 01:40:53,875
♪ From what it used to be ♪
1556
01:40:53,959 --> 01:40:55,709
♪ There is so much hatred ♪
1557
01:40:55,792 --> 01:40:59,875
♪ War and poverty ♪
1558
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:06,041
♪ Ohh... ♪
1559
01:41:06,125 --> 01:41:07,333
♪ Ohh... ♪
1560
01:41:07,417 --> 01:41:09,250
♪ Wake up, all the teachers ♪
1561
01:41:09,333 --> 01:41:11,583
♪ Time to teach a new way ♪
1562
01:41:11,667 --> 01:41:16,542
♪ Maybe then they'll listen
to what you have to say ♪
1563
01:41:16,625 --> 01:41:19,083
♪ 'Cause they're the ones
who's coming up ♪
1564
01:41:19,166 --> 01:41:21,875
♪ And the world
is in their hands ♪
1565
01:41:21,959 --> 01:41:24,083
♪ So when you teach
the children ♪
1566
01:41:24,166 --> 01:41:27,750
♪ Teach 'em
the very best you can ♪
1567
01:41:30,458 --> 01:41:35,000
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1568
01:41:35,083 --> 01:41:38,542
♪ If we just let it be ♪
1569
01:41:40,375 --> 01:41:44,000
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1570
01:41:44,083 --> 01:41:48,583
♪ We gotta change it, yeah,
just you and me ♪
1571
01:41:51,709 --> 01:41:56,458
♪ Wake up, all the doctors,
make the old people well ♪
1572
01:41:56,542 --> 01:41:57,792
♪ 'Cause they're the ones
who suffer ♪
1573
01:41:57,917 --> 01:42:01,375
♪ And who catch all the hell ♪
1574
01:42:01,458 --> 01:42:03,875
♪ 'Cause they don't have
so very long ♪
1575
01:42:03,917 --> 01:42:06,333
♪ Before their judgment day ♪
1576
01:42:06,417 --> 01:42:08,875
♪ So won't you
make them happy ♪
1577
01:42:08,959 --> 01:42:14,250
♪ Before they pass away? ♪
1578
01:42:14,333 --> 01:42:19,333
♪ Wake up, all the builders,
time to build a new land ♪
1579
01:42:19,417 --> 01:42:24,000
♪ I know we can do it
if we all lend a hand ♪
1580
01:42:24,083 --> 01:42:26,834
♪ The only thing
we have to do ♪
1581
01:42:26,917 --> 01:42:28,959
♪ Is put it in our mind ♪
1582
01:42:29,041 --> 01:42:31,333
♪ Surely things will work out ♪
1583
01:42:31,417 --> 01:42:35,166
♪ They do it every time ♪
1584
01:42:37,625 --> 01:42:41,959
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1585
01:42:42,041 --> 01:42:43,959
♪ If we just let it be ♪
1586
01:42:44,041 --> 01:42:47,500
♪ Na-na-na-na na na na ♪
1587
01:42:47,583 --> 01:42:50,834
♪ The world
won't get no better ♪
1588
01:42:50,875 --> 01:42:54,208
♪ We gotta change it, yeah,
just you and me ♪
1589
01:42:58,959 --> 01:43:00,750
♪ Change it, yeah ♪
1590
01:43:04,083 --> 01:43:04,834
♪ Wake up ♪
1591
01:43:04,917 --> 01:43:08,834
♪ Everybody ♪
1592
01:43:08,917 --> 01:43:10,458
♪ Wake up ♪
1593
01:43:10,542 --> 01:43:12,375
♪ Everybody ♪
1594
01:43:13,875 --> 01:43:14,834
♪ Wake up ♪
1595
01:43:14,917 --> 01:43:18,542
♪ Everybody ♪
1596
01:43:18,625 --> 01:43:20,166
♪ Wake up ♪
1597
01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:22,375
♪ Everybody ♪
1598
01:43:23,625 --> 01:43:25,542
♪ Wake up ♪
1599
01:43:28,208 --> 01:43:29,959
♪ Wake up ♪
1600
01:43:46,291 --> 01:43:50,208
♪ Now wait just a minute,
what is this I see? ♪
1601
01:43:50,291 --> 01:43:54,542
♪ Is that you?
Don't you remember me? ♪
1602
01:43:54,625 --> 01:43:58,375
♪ You're not the same person
that I knew ♪
1603
01:43:58,458 --> 01:44:02,834
♪ So where'd you go?
What'd you do to yourself? ♪
1604
01:44:02,917 --> 01:44:06,750
♪ You were much better
when we used to get down ♪
1605
01:44:06,834 --> 01:44:09,875
♪ Remember then there
was nothing in your sound ♪
1606
01:44:09,959 --> 01:44:13,208
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1607
01:44:13,291 --> 01:44:15,709
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1608
01:44:15,792 --> 01:44:17,458
♪ Oh, I don't know
who you're trying to fool ♪
1609
01:44:17,542 --> 01:44:20,333
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1610
01:44:20,417 --> 01:44:24,083
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1611
01:44:27,208 --> 01:44:31,375
♪ You should be ashamed
of the way you appear ♪
1612
01:44:31,458 --> 01:44:35,041
♪ Look at yourself,
don't you give me no tears ♪
1613
01:44:35,125 --> 01:44:39,875
♪ You used to be carefree
and that was your only way ♪
1614
01:44:39,959 --> 01:44:44,000
♪ And now a school teacher,
you try to read a date ♪
1615
01:44:44,083 --> 01:44:48,083
♪ There were times
we rocked all night long ♪
1616
01:44:48,166 --> 01:44:51,166
♪ So don't pretend
that the feeling is gone ♪
1617
01:44:51,250 --> 01:44:53,291
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1618
01:44:53,375 --> 01:44:56,625
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1619
01:44:56,709 --> 01:45:00,000
♪ You know that I know
that you know, yeah, you know ♪
1620
01:45:00,083 --> 01:45:02,500
♪ Girl, you know ♪
1621
01:45:02,583 --> 01:45:04,583
♪ You like
the taste of the wine ♪
1622
01:45:07,834 --> 01:45:10,125
♪ Do it ♪
1623
01:45:11,083 --> 01:45:13,959
♪ The way you used to ♪
1624
01:45:16,750 --> 01:45:18,750
♪ Do it ♪
1625
01:45:18,834 --> 01:45:21,375
♪ The way I remember you ♪
1626
01:45:24,166 --> 01:45:25,750
♪ Oh yeah ♪
1627
01:45:30,041 --> 01:45:33,208
♪ Mm-mm, mm-mm ♪
1628
01:45:37,083 --> 01:45:40,458
♪ You say
you don't recognize your pal ♪
1629
01:45:40,542 --> 01:45:45,542
♪ Afraid I'd tell
you were my good-time gal ♪
1630
01:45:45,625 --> 01:45:48,417
♪ I see you changed,
the image is true ♪
1631
01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:51,041
♪ You don't smoke,
you don't drink ♪
1632
01:45:51,125 --> 01:45:54,333
♪ What else don't you do? ♪
1633
01:45:54,458 --> 01:45:58,000
♪ 'Cause you were the one
who could never get enough ♪
1634
01:45:58,083 --> 01:46:01,166
♪ It was good to you then
so don't you pull no stuff ♪
1635
01:46:01,250 --> 01:46:03,333
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
- ♪ Girl, you know ♪
1636
01:46:03,417 --> 01:46:05,458
♪ You like the taste
of the wine ♪
1637
01:46:05,542 --> 01:46:08,667
♪ Oh, I don't know
who you're trying to fool ♪
1638
01:46:08,750 --> 01:46:10,500
♪ But I know,
yeah, you know it ♪
1639
01:46:10,583 --> 01:46:15,792
♪ Girl, you know you like
the taste of the wine ♪
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