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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:03,295 TRAVIS: I'm Dr. Travis Taylor. 2 00:00:03,295 --> 00:00:04,671 I was invited to investigate this area 3 00:00:04,671 --> 00:00:06,590 known as Skinwalker Ranch. 4 00:00:06,590 --> 00:00:09,593 We've verified and documented everything 5 00:00:09,593 --> 00:00:12,721 from UFO sightings to these columns of light 6 00:00:12,721 --> 00:00:15,349 above the mesa, and even cattle mutilations. 7 00:00:15,349 --> 00:00:16,683 TRAVIS: Let's go up the mountain. 8 00:00:16,683 --> 00:00:18,477 Look at that. Microwaves like that 9 00:00:18,477 --> 00:00:19,686 could be harmful to humans. 10 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:21,188 If you want the phenomenon 11 00:00:21,188 --> 00:00:23,899 to manifest itself, you go and dig somewhere. 12 00:00:23,899 --> 00:00:26,109 When you dig, bad stuff happens. 13 00:00:26,109 --> 00:00:27,694 One day I was digging, 14 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:30,697 my scalp separated from my skull. 15 00:00:30,697 --> 00:00:32,616 If you're gonna be a part of this, 16 00:00:32,616 --> 00:00:36,286 I have to unequivocably say no digging. 17 00:00:38,121 --> 00:00:42,251 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in northern Utah. 18 00:00:42,251 --> 00:00:45,712 It is considered the epicenter of the strangest 19 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:49,383 and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 20 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:51,718 animal mutilations, 21 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:53,971 bizarre UFO sightings 22 00:00:53,971 --> 00:00:56,265 and unusual energies 23 00:00:56,265 --> 00:00:59,309 that have proven harmful to humans. 24 00:00:59,309 --> 00:01:01,812 For 20 years, the federal government 25 00:01:01,812 --> 00:01:05,148 tried to find answers and failed. 26 00:01:05,148 --> 00:01:09,236 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 27 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:13,073 researches and experts has taken over. 28 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:17,077 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 29 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:23,083 The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 30 00:01:27,963 --> 00:01:30,007 TRAVIS: Hey, Brandon. 31 00:01:30,007 --> 00:01:32,593 Greetings, team. Uh, I'm glad that you've patched me in, 32 00:01:32,593 --> 00:01:35,929 and I'm wondering how the investigation is progressing. 33 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:40,017 So, one of the first things the guys want to do is... 34 00:01:40,017 --> 00:01:41,768 they want to dig. 35 00:01:43,437 --> 00:01:47,149 You know, I‐I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that. 36 00:01:47,149 --> 00:01:49,609 There are certain risks 37 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:52,279 you just haven't been properly briefed on. 38 00:01:52,279 --> 00:01:54,740 TRAVIS: Well, we need 39 00:01:54,740 --> 00:01:56,658 to be briefed on that data, then. 40 00:01:56,658 --> 00:01:58,869 I understand. Erik, 41 00:01:58,869 --> 00:02:01,163 show them what is in the case. 42 00:02:01,163 --> 00:02:03,957 Regrettably, I have to go to a meeting, so I'll look 43 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:06,001 ‐for your update later. Thanks, gentlemen. ‐Will do. 44 00:02:06,001 --> 00:02:07,711 ‐Thank you. ‐Thanks, Brandon. ‐See you later, Brandon. 45 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:11,923 (beeping) 46 00:02:11,923 --> 00:02:13,717 TRAVIS: I came into this saying, 47 00:02:13,717 --> 00:02:16,136 "Look, guys, we're gonna follow the scientific method." 48 00:02:16,136 --> 00:02:19,973 You can't keep data away from the experiment 49 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:22,768 and not show the rest of the team 50 00:02:22,768 --> 00:02:26,063 in order for it to be a good experiment. 51 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:31,318 So what I am going to show you may offer an explanation 52 00:02:31,318 --> 00:02:33,320 for some of what we've been seeing on the property. 53 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,989 You'll understand as soon as I open this up. 54 00:02:43,664 --> 00:02:46,333 You might recognize it. 55 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:49,419 It's a very large neodymium magnet. 56 00:02:49,419 --> 00:02:51,338 ‐It's like the China syndrome of magnets. ‐Yes. 57 00:02:51,338 --> 00:02:52,923 It's capable of exerting quite a bit of force. 58 00:02:52,923 --> 00:02:54,675 TRAVIS: Yeah, I mean, you can lose a finger 59 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:57,260 ‐under a magnet like that. ‐Yeah. 60 00:02:57,260 --> 00:03:00,555 TRAVIS: A neodymium magnet is a magnet 61 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:03,100 that's made out of neodymium, iron and boron 62 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,352 and is a really powerful magnet. 63 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:07,354 But when Erik opens up this case, 64 00:03:07,354 --> 00:03:08,563 and he shows us this magnet, 65 00:03:08,563 --> 00:03:10,273 I'm looking at this thinking, 66 00:03:10,273 --> 00:03:13,860 "What does this have to do with not digging on the ranch?" 67 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:15,904 ERIK: This object gives us a way 68 00:03:15,904 --> 00:03:18,949 to reproduce some of the effects that we've seen 69 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:20,200 on the property, ongoing. 70 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,244 How did you reproduce the effect? 71 00:03:22,244 --> 00:03:24,371 I can actually show it to you. 72 00:03:24,371 --> 00:03:26,081 ‐Okay. ‐Now, these guys have seen it, 73 00:03:26,081 --> 00:03:27,707 but if you'd like, we can go in. 74 00:03:27,707 --> 00:03:29,418 ‐Yeah. No, I'd love to see that. ‐I'll do a quick demo. 75 00:03:29,418 --> 00:03:30,627 ‐Yeah, let's do that. ‐Sure. 76 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,632 ERIK: So, guys, 77 00:03:35,632 --> 00:03:38,260 what you see right there, that's actually a still shot 78 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:40,262 from a video that I made 79 00:03:40,262 --> 00:03:42,597 the first time I came to this ranch. 80 00:03:42,597 --> 00:03:44,433 ‐TRAVIS: From your phone? ‐From the phone. 81 00:03:44,433 --> 00:03:46,143 ERIK: When I went to the top of the mesa, 82 00:03:46,143 --> 00:03:48,103 I was getting artifact like this. 83 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:50,647 It was when we got down to Homestead 2, 84 00:03:50,647 --> 00:03:54,192 it finally cleared up and I was able to take a normal picture. 85 00:03:54,192 --> 00:03:56,236 So, the question I have is, well, what would it take 86 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:58,405 to make that happen? 87 00:03:58,405 --> 00:03:59,781 ‐Right. ‐Can I reproduce that effect? 88 00:03:59,781 --> 00:04:01,324 Hm‐hmm. 89 00:04:01,324 --> 00:04:03,243 Before I came to Skinwalker Ranch, 90 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,745 I'd heard that in addition to UFO sightings 91 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:08,290 and animal mutilations, there were also a lot 92 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:10,167 of strange electrical phenomena, 93 00:04:10,167 --> 00:04:11,710 like cell phones and electronics 94 00:04:11,710 --> 00:04:13,253 that just suddenly wouldn't work. 95 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:14,963 Down here on the countertop, what I've got 96 00:04:14,963 --> 00:04:16,840 is a second magnet. 97 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,261 This fixture lets us do this 98 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:23,263 in a little more controlled fashion. 99 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:25,807 ‐We're gonna watch the effect... ‐All right. 100 00:04:25,807 --> 00:04:27,434 ‐...show up on this‐this phone. ‐I got it. Let's do it. 101 00:04:27,434 --> 00:04:29,519 ‐All right. ‐(clears throat) 102 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:33,398 All right, now, look, you're gonna go through a position. 103 00:04:33,398 --> 00:04:35,066 I hold it at the position... 104 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:37,068 ‐ERIK: Right. Yeah. ‐Oh. 105 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:39,404 ‐TRAVIS: Uh, that's right. Right there. ‐SEGALA: There you go. 106 00:04:39,404 --> 00:04:40,530 ‐There it is. ‐ERIK: Right there. 107 00:04:40,530 --> 00:04:41,740 So I can make it happen. 108 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:45,660 ‐Very cool, Erik. ‐TRAVIS: I'll tell you what, 109 00:04:45,660 --> 00:04:47,496 I'm‐a hold the phone, Erik. You move the magnet. 110 00:04:47,496 --> 00:04:49,498 ERIK: And so what I'm seeing is that 111 00:04:49,498 --> 00:04:53,627 when I go through a certain point, I'll get the effect. 112 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:54,836 Well, that's interesting. 113 00:04:54,836 --> 00:04:56,713 Now I'm curious to find out 114 00:04:56,713 --> 00:04:58,840 where Eric is going with all this. 115 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:00,801 Now, does he think there's some giant magnet buried 116 00:05:00,801 --> 00:05:04,429 under the ground that's causing some of these strange phenomena? 117 00:05:04,429 --> 00:05:07,140 Is that why he and the other guys are afraid to dig? 118 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:08,892 Pretty interesting, right? 119 00:05:08,892 --> 00:05:10,560 ‐Yeah, every interesting. ‐TRAVIS: It's interesting. 120 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,104 Not exactly sure what it all means just yet. 121 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:14,272 ERIK: Yeah. 122 00:05:14,272 --> 00:05:16,983 And what has given me pause 123 00:05:16,983 --> 00:05:21,530 is whatever is generating the malfunction on our devices 124 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:24,658 is related to your injury and to the other 125 00:05:24,658 --> 00:05:26,576 unpleasant experiences that people have had 126 00:05:26,576 --> 00:05:28,620 on this property. 127 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:30,914 THOMAS: A couple of years ago, 128 00:05:30,914 --> 00:05:33,917 I had been warned not to dig on this ranch, 129 00:05:33,917 --> 00:05:36,670 which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. 130 00:05:36,670 --> 00:05:39,172 So I paid zero attention to i, 131 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:43,468 and ended up getting very, very sick, hospitalized. 132 00:05:43,468 --> 00:05:47,222 I had fluid that separated the fatty tissue from my skull. 133 00:05:47,222 --> 00:05:49,266 And to this day, my doctors 134 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:51,351 still haven't come up with an explanation. 135 00:05:53,103 --> 00:05:56,439 So, I'll tell you, I applaud that you've looked for something 136 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:58,149 that you can do in a controlled manner 137 00:05:58,149 --> 00:06:00,068 and reproduce something that you've seen. 138 00:06:00,068 --> 00:06:01,736 Now here's the thing, 139 00:06:01,736 --> 00:06:04,030 I've yet to hear anything tell me 140 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:07,409 that this magnetic field thing is a reason not to dig. 141 00:06:07,409 --> 00:06:10,370 So, I think we have not ruled out the possibility 142 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,289 that we have something active 143 00:06:12,289 --> 00:06:15,333 beneath the surface of this property. 144 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:18,295 We have some evidence, at least, to support the idea 145 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:22,716 that there may be a magnetic field‐generating device 146 00:06:22,716 --> 00:06:25,093 or devices or something, 147 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:28,263 located on or beneath this property, or perhaps above it. 148 00:06:28,263 --> 00:06:32,475 So, until we have done all the noninvasive work, 149 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:34,978 I don't think we're ready to start digging. 150 00:06:34,978 --> 00:06:38,315 That's more my mind‐set. 151 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:40,442 There's no data that's been on the table 152 00:06:40,442 --> 00:06:42,819 that tells us digging is correlated 153 00:06:42,819 --> 00:06:45,947 to anything that causes events. 154 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:51,328 But a lot of the things bad happen more often when you dig. 155 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:54,748 ‐Look, we're just trying to do the best that we can out here. ‐No, I get it. 156 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:56,458 And without getting people hurt. 157 00:06:56,458 --> 00:06:57,876 I‐‐ Hey, I appreciate that. 158 00:07:00,128 --> 00:07:04,382 I think we're all closer to the same point than we realize. 159 00:07:04,382 --> 00:07:09,262 Uh, Erik, if we set out and we do all of these different tests 160 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:12,474 and use those to guide us as to a point that we could dig, 161 00:07:12,474 --> 00:07:14,643 would you feel comfortable with that? 162 00:07:14,643 --> 00:07:17,520 ‐I think that's the approach that I'm advocating. ‐TRAVIS: Sure. 163 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,147 I‐I like that. Let's... 164 00:07:19,147 --> 00:07:20,398 ERIK: Yeah, I'm confident. 165 00:07:20,398 --> 00:07:21,858 When we've exhausted all the options, 166 00:07:21,858 --> 00:07:23,943 the noninvasive options. 167 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:26,738 We've talked about it enough. 168 00:07:26,738 --> 00:07:28,948 I mean, w‐‐ let's figure out what we're doing. 169 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:32,369 What is our first step? What are we gonna do, like, tomorrow? 170 00:07:32,369 --> 00:07:33,995 ‐Okay. ‐That's fair enough. 171 00:07:33,995 --> 00:07:36,331 I think the first thing that's got to be done, 172 00:07:36,331 --> 00:07:38,833 just from a safety standpoint, is we need some experts 173 00:07:38,833 --> 00:07:42,045 to come in here to do a full sweep of the ranch for safety. 174 00:07:42,045 --> 00:07:46,299 Measure radiological and RF and microwaves on the whole ranch. 175 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:49,135 Let's make sure that it's safe just to be here; 176 00:07:49,135 --> 00:07:51,805 ‐we're not getting slow cooked or something. ‐Yeah, we can do that. 177 00:07:51,805 --> 00:07:54,224 You know, we've got people that can come to the ranch, 178 00:07:54,224 --> 00:07:58,645 do a full sweep of radio frequency radiation tomorrow. 179 00:07:58,645 --> 00:08:01,231 ‐That sounds great to me. What do you guys think? ‐(murmured agreement) 180 00:08:01,231 --> 00:08:03,400 ‐Well, let's go, let's do it. ‐Yeah. 181 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,276 Okay. 182 00:08:13,743 --> 00:08:16,538 TRAVIS: So, how many people actually have 183 00:08:16,538 --> 00:08:18,039 access to the ranch? 184 00:08:18,039 --> 00:08:19,833 ‐Very few. ‐Oh. 185 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:22,502 We do our very best to try to keep 186 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:25,714 the integrity of the science that's going on here. 187 00:08:25,714 --> 00:08:27,841 So, actually, today, 188 00:08:27,841 --> 00:08:30,593 they got the team out there doing the radiation sweep 189 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:32,929 ‐and the RF sweep. ‐Oh, good. Good. 190 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:35,598 Following our discussion in the command center yesterday, 191 00:08:35,598 --> 00:08:37,892 we invited two different companies up to the ranch. 192 00:08:37,892 --> 00:08:40,895 The first will look for dangerous levels of radiation 193 00:08:40,895 --> 00:08:42,939 and the second will look for microwaves. 194 00:08:42,939 --> 00:08:45,025 Now, if everything checks out, then we'll be safe 195 00:08:45,025 --> 00:08:47,527 to conduct some more focused experiments 196 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:49,362 and find out where the strange electromagnetic energy 197 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:51,489 on the ranch is coming from. 198 00:08:51,489 --> 00:08:54,743 THOMAS: We're gonna continue to head across the ranch. 199 00:08:54,743 --> 00:08:57,162 You can see the old building. 200 00:08:57,162 --> 00:08:59,539 This is what we call Homestead 2. 201 00:09:01,041 --> 00:09:03,293 There are specific places on the ranch 202 00:09:03,293 --> 00:09:08,089 where I've even personally witnessed some shadow figures. 203 00:09:08,089 --> 00:09:09,716 (whispering voices) 204 00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:13,928 I've heard voices on multiple occasions. 205 00:09:13,928 --> 00:09:17,599 I've had individuals with me that heard the voices, too. 206 00:09:17,599 --> 00:09:20,268 The interesting thing is I have no idea 207 00:09:20,268 --> 00:09:22,812 whether it's an actual audible voice 208 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:26,858 or something that's playing out in my head. 209 00:09:26,858 --> 00:09:28,276 It was as if someone was standing 210 00:09:28,276 --> 00:09:30,195 right in front of me, talking to me, 211 00:09:30,195 --> 00:09:34,074 telling me to either stop what I was doing or to leave. 212 00:09:37,202 --> 00:09:39,245 Now, is this all Indian reservation 213 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:41,581 part of the ranch here or is this part of the other property? 214 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:43,625 Ute tribe is just right up on top of this hill right here. 215 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:45,668 TRAVIS: Oh, okay. 216 00:09:45,668 --> 00:09:47,087 THOMAS: The fascinating thing is there's 217 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:49,464 a lot of Native Americans that, to this day, 218 00:09:49,464 --> 00:09:51,091 they tell us that they look to the east, 219 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:53,218 they won't even acknowledge that the ranch exists. 220 00:09:53,218 --> 00:09:55,345 That's strange. 221 00:09:56,763 --> 00:09:58,139 The Utes and the Navajos actually have 222 00:09:58,139 --> 00:10:00,100 quite a storied past. 223 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:04,562 They originally started off as allies and trading partners 224 00:10:04,562 --> 00:10:06,981 and then as generations went on, 225 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:09,526 relationships started to become strained. 226 00:10:09,526 --> 00:10:12,362 So much so that when the U. S. government sent soldiers 227 00:10:12,362 --> 00:10:14,114 out to the Southwest 228 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:18,159 to protect the white settlers from the Navajo tribe, 229 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:22,080 the Ute tribe joined forces with the soldiers. 230 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,126 And as retribution, the Navajos actually cursed this land 231 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:29,129 with evil spirits known as skinwalkers, 232 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,131 which are evil entities 233 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:33,758 that can take many different forms and shapes. 234 00:10:35,802 --> 00:10:38,429 TRAVIS: So, where's the north border 235 00:10:38,429 --> 00:10:40,265 on the other side of the mesa, how far does it go? 236 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:42,433 Just to about that back cliff over there. 237 00:10:42,433 --> 00:10:44,144 ‐TRAVIS: Oh, really? ‐Yeah, just short of it. 238 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:45,228 TRAVIS: Huh. 239 00:10:45,228 --> 00:10:47,063 It looks different from the... 240 00:10:47,063 --> 00:10:48,940 BRYANT (over radio): Hey, Thomas. Do you copy? 241 00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:53,069 Yeah, Bryant. Go ahead. 242 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:55,905 Yeah, we're up in the sinkhole doing this radiation sweep. 243 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:58,658 You guys should get just straight over here. 244 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,660 We found some crazy stuff you're gonna want to see. 245 00:11:08,418 --> 00:11:11,337 TRAVIS: While Tom Winterton and I are taking a tour of the ranch, 246 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:13,882 we get this emergency call and it's from the team 247 00:11:13,882 --> 00:11:16,009 that's up on the mesa scanning for harmful levels 248 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:17,719 of radiation and microwaves. 249 00:11:17,719 --> 00:11:19,137 THOMAS: All right, 250 00:11:19,137 --> 00:11:21,681 we will head straight over there. You'll see us soon. 251 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:24,142 TRAVIS: My first thought was whether or not the guys were getting 252 00:11:24,142 --> 00:11:26,686 the kinds of crazy readings we measured yesterday 253 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:28,396 when we were up on the mesa. 254 00:11:28,396 --> 00:11:30,481 (devices whirring) 255 00:11:30,481 --> 00:11:33,193 I mean, that's a significant amount of energy right there. 256 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,445 We found electromagnetic radiation 257 00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:37,530 that could be harmful to humans. 258 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,782 Oh! And it's shifted now. 259 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:42,035 Now it's coming from that direction. 260 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,329 ‐And it's all radiation. ‐TRAVIS: Yes. Yeah. 261 00:11:48,416 --> 00:11:50,376 ‐I see them standing up there. ‐THOMAS: Oh, you see them up there? 262 00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:52,712 ‐TRAVIS: Yeah. ‐THOMAS: We got to walk from here on up. 263 00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:53,713 TRAVIS: Yeah, okay. 264 00:12:09,312 --> 00:12:11,564 Hey, guys. 265 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:14,567 The sinkhole is right over here. Obviously, Thomas knows. 266 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:16,110 These guys picked up stuff I thought 267 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:18,446 you guys would be interested in seeing yourselves. 268 00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:21,366 TRAVIS: Wow. Look at that. 269 00:12:21,366 --> 00:12:25,411 ‐Hey, guys. ‐There's Jim down there. 270 00:12:25,411 --> 00:12:26,955 ‐How far does it go? ‐It goes down. 271 00:12:26,955 --> 00:12:28,581 SNOWDER: Quite a ways. 272 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:32,168 TRAVIS: We get up there and there's a hole in the ground. 273 00:12:32,168 --> 00:12:34,837 It's kind of like a little cave, and it's big enough 274 00:12:34,837 --> 00:12:37,131 for three or four people to get down in. 275 00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:39,217 This one is interesting just because 276 00:12:39,217 --> 00:12:41,928 ‐air flows out of it and things like that. ‐Yeah, you can feel it. 277 00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:44,597 THOMAS: We've had a few people 278 00:12:44,597 --> 00:12:46,474 that have climbed down in that hole 279 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:48,268 and experienced some pretty extreme 280 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:50,853 vertigo and nauseousness. 281 00:12:53,314 --> 00:12:54,857 The sinkhole is a spot 282 00:12:54,857 --> 00:12:57,527 that I found one day when I was hiking up above Homestead 2 283 00:12:57,527 --> 00:12:58,987 and the thing that made it remarkable 284 00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:00,530 the first time I found it was 285 00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:03,616 there is a cavity that continues down. 286 00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:06,953 We've been trying to figure out how far down there it goes, 287 00:13:06,953 --> 00:13:09,455 and it was just blasting cold air, 288 00:13:09,455 --> 00:13:11,457 just like an air conditioner. 289 00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:14,794 Myself, as well as, uh, several other individuals that 290 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:17,505 I was there to witness have had experiences 291 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:19,424 when we climbed down inside that hole. 292 00:13:19,424 --> 00:13:22,343 You know, I kind of shrugged t off as heat stroke at the tim, 293 00:13:22,343 --> 00:13:24,554 but then, other individuals that we've taken up there 294 00:13:24,554 --> 00:13:27,682 since then have experienced the same thing. 295 00:13:27,682 --> 00:13:31,144 BRYANT: Jeff is with Semper, and he's measuring 296 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,396 radio wave frequencies and things like that. 297 00:13:33,396 --> 00:13:35,356 Travis and Casey are with Qal‐Tek. 298 00:13:35,356 --> 00:13:37,150 They're doing a full radiation sweep. 299 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,819 ‐All right. ‐We're also, while we're in there, looking for 300 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,238 V.O.C.s, uh, and other chemicals. 301 00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:44,157 Such as? 302 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:46,242 Such as nerve agents or toxic chemicals. 303 00:13:46,242 --> 00:13:48,036 ‐Okay. ‐And we actually got a really 304 00:13:48,036 --> 00:13:50,204 high hit, uh, on our V. O. C. levels, 305 00:13:50,204 --> 00:13:54,000 about 3,600 parts per billion, 306 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,669 which is a really high abnormality. 307 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,755 ‐Dangerous level or just high? ‐Dangerous levels, certainly. 308 00:13:58,755 --> 00:14:01,716 Uh, it was a real quick hit. It was, it was almost as if 309 00:14:01,716 --> 00:14:03,718 there was a ventilation that plumed. 310 00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:05,595 We got a reading off of that and then, 311 00:14:05,595 --> 00:14:07,221 ‐um... ‐It disappeared. 312 00:14:07,221 --> 00:14:09,098 ‐It disappeared. ‐Really? 313 00:14:09,098 --> 00:14:11,142 ‐Yep. ‐That‐that's intriguing. 314 00:14:11,142 --> 00:14:13,561 There are all sorts of volatile organic compounds 315 00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:15,938 like, uh, formaldehyde, uh, benzene, 316 00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:19,067 but this sinkhole is pretty far away from anything man‐made, 317 00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:21,986 so their presence here is really strange. 318 00:14:21,986 --> 00:14:23,905 SEGALA: The V. O. C. level, 319 00:14:23,905 --> 00:14:26,616 I thought that was significant, 3,700 parts per billion, 320 00:14:26,616 --> 00:14:28,659 ‐that's... ‐It was very concerning. 321 00:14:28,659 --> 00:14:31,287 TRAVIS: Well, let me ask you this: 322 00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,206 Did you take the RF meter down inside? 323 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:34,540 I haven't been down in there yet. 324 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:35,958 'Cause it'd be interesting to see if you're 325 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,044 getting anything in there, RF‐wise. 326 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,962 What if I go down in there with you? 327 00:14:39,962 --> 00:14:41,881 You guys think it's safe to go down in there, right? 328 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,716 I mean, it wasn't‐‐ it was transient, right? 329 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:45,384 We'll keep an air monitor with you 330 00:14:45,384 --> 00:14:46,761 so we can make sure there isn't any 331 00:14:46,761 --> 00:14:48,096 air displacement, oxygen displacement. 332 00:14:48,096 --> 00:14:50,473 All right. Well, let's go down in there and see. 333 00:15:02,485 --> 00:15:06,280 Do you want to send in the O2 sensor first? 334 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,491 Makes the most safety sense. 335 00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:10,535 I think that's just‐‐ that's smart. 336 00:15:10,535 --> 00:15:12,078 I like not dying. 337 00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:18,000 I'll jump in and make sure O2 sensors levels are good. 338 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,962 I like having the air quality sensor in there first. 339 00:15:20,962 --> 00:15:23,256 For sure. 340 00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:26,217 (device whirring) 341 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:30,888 All right, we got normal levels here, so you're good. 342 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:32,181 All right, bring it on in. 343 00:15:32,181 --> 00:15:35,601 I'll take measurements if you call them up to me. 344 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:37,145 Oh, yeah. 345 00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:39,605 I don't know if anyone brought a flashlight, you can see. 346 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:41,149 You got one? 347 00:15:41,149 --> 00:15:43,568 Your phone will work. That's what they're made for, right? 348 00:15:43,568 --> 00:15:45,528 Oh, wow. You know, there's no telling 349 00:15:45,528 --> 00:15:47,113 how far that thing goes down in there. 350 00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:48,281 JEFF: If anything coming out of there... 351 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:49,574 TRAVIS: Yeah, you're gonna get it, right? 352 00:15:49,574 --> 00:15:50,783 JEFF: Yep, that's right. 353 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:52,702 I did see a spike. 354 00:15:52,702 --> 00:15:55,079 An instantaneous spike at around 355 00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:59,375 one two, four, zero, let's call it. 356 00:15:59,375 --> 00:16:01,794 I'm seeing only background levels here, 357 00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:05,631 but when I put the antenna down by the hole, 358 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:07,967 I clearly see some spikes forming. 359 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:09,760 ‐I've got some peaks showing. ‐You sure do. 360 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,888 ‐Yeah. ‐So, right at the opening? 361 00:16:11,888 --> 00:16:15,558 Right at the opening, when I put the antenna down in there. 362 00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:19,812 Okay, Erik, we're on preset number two. 363 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:24,734 Let me, let me ask a question real quick, guys. 364 00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:26,611 Do any of y'all feel swimmy‐headed at all? 365 00:16:28,821 --> 00:16:30,156 SNOWDER: No, you good? 366 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:31,949 ERIK: You feeling it? 367 00:16:31,949 --> 00:16:33,409 I don't know. 368 00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,494 Slightly, I felt like I was not holding my balance well 369 00:16:35,494 --> 00:16:38,497 for a second there. That's why I put my hand over on the rock. 370 00:16:41,292 --> 00:16:44,921 And I'm feeling it now, too. 371 00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:47,840 ‐Any change in the oxygen level? ‐Yeah, that's what I was wondering. 372 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,717 ‐No, it's consistent. ‐ERIK: Sure. 373 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:51,510 TRAVIS: It's weird, it feels weird. 374 00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:55,056 Yeah, m‐my knees are starting to, 375 00:16:55,056 --> 00:16:56,849 actually kind of starting to tremble. 376 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,142 I'm‐I'm feeling kind of shaky. 377 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,647 That's not all right. 378 00:17:04,649 --> 00:17:07,360 One of the things that's the largest of concern That was weird. 379 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,904 I mean, I‐I feel like 380 00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:11,572 I just worked out and I didn't eat before. 381 00:17:11,572 --> 00:17:13,491 You know, feels weird. 382 00:17:13,491 --> 00:17:16,077 BRYANT: Are any of you other guys feeling anything 383 00:17:16,077 --> 00:17:17,870 ‐bad down there at all? ‐SNOWDER: No. 384 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:19,956 I just felt like I was gonna bonk. 385 00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,918 Dude, I will tell you my phone battery just went... 386 00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:25,336 (blows raspberry) 387 00:17:25,336 --> 00:17:27,880 ‐Your battery's dead on your phone? ‐TRAVIS: Yeah. 388 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,757 ‐Huh. ‐TRAVIS: Your battery's dead, too, ain't it? 389 00:17:29,757 --> 00:17:31,092 It shut off. 390 00:17:31,092 --> 00:17:34,095 TRAVIS: Clearly, something 391 00:17:34,095 --> 00:17:38,975 is in that hole that‐that made me have a weird, you know, like, 392 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:42,144 low blood sugar feeling, and I, uh, I don't know what it was. 393 00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:44,647 ERIK: We have what we believe to be safe practices here, 394 00:17:44,647 --> 00:17:46,899 but there are no guarantees here, 395 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:48,609 and no one knows that better then Tom. 396 00:17:48,609 --> 00:17:51,404 TRAVIS: You guys got all the measurements 397 00:17:51,404 --> 00:17:53,990 that y'all were planning to take up here, right? 398 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:56,492 We got a good surveillance of the entire ranch at this point. 399 00:17:56,492 --> 00:17:59,161 We get back down to the truck, we can dive into our results, 400 00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:01,080 take a little deeper look at that, 401 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,999 and then, uh, we can get some further analysis 402 00:18:02,999 --> 00:18:05,501 and try to look at some deeper details. 403 00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:06,752 Let's‐let's go look at that. 404 00:18:06,752 --> 00:18:08,588 ‐I'm‐I'm good for that. ‐Sounds good to me. 405 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,756 Everyone be safe going down. 406 00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:12,550 TRAVIS: I'm convinced that whatever came over me 407 00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:14,802 while I was down in that cave had nothing to do 408 00:18:14,802 --> 00:18:17,763 with oxygen deprivation or toxic gas levels. 409 00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:20,683 Our oxygen meter was indicating there was plenty of air, 410 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,476 but then, all of a sudden, 411 00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:24,103 the batteries in our cell phones go dead. 412 00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:26,022 Boom. Just like that. 413 00:18:26,022 --> 00:18:29,442 SNOWDER: We've seen some stuff that we expected to see, 414 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,152 some stuff that we didn't expect to see. 415 00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:33,529 Our concern seems to be around these underground emissions, 416 00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:36,490 that's where we're seeing the most of these phenomenons. 417 00:18:36,490 --> 00:18:38,492 I want to tell you we're‐we're still gonna be looking 418 00:18:38,492 --> 00:18:41,162 ‐for more holes to crawl into and more things... ‐Sure. 419 00:18:41,162 --> 00:18:42,788 ...to dig into and look under 420 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:45,541 and‐and‐and it's possible we'll uncover 421 00:18:45,541 --> 00:18:47,168 something that's dangerous. 422 00:18:47,168 --> 00:18:48,294 ‐Right? ‐Correct. 423 00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:50,171 SNOWDER: In some of the confined spaces, 424 00:18:50,171 --> 00:18:51,714 those are areas you might want to be 425 00:18:51,714 --> 00:18:53,424 aware of when you're working in those areas, 426 00:18:53,424 --> 00:18:56,510 but in the open area and‐and the ranch and so forth, 427 00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:58,054 uh, nothing of concern. 428 00:18:58,054 --> 00:19:00,222 It's okay to walk around out here, we're not getting cooked, 429 00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:02,183 but we might find some weird transient things. 430 00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:03,976 ‐Absolutely. ‐And in that hole, 431 00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:05,978 ‐there's something that we can't explain yet? ‐Right. 432 00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,564 So, in summary on the radiation exposure 433 00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:10,650 is one of the things we haven't figured out 434 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,027 across the entire ranch, and we don't know this, 435 00:19:13,027 --> 00:19:15,488 um, is the exact levels of that. 436 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:17,490 So we brought something for your guys's team 437 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:20,201 that'll kind of watch you guys on an individual level. 438 00:19:20,201 --> 00:19:22,203 This is a dosimeter. 439 00:19:22,203 --> 00:19:25,039 This is gonna primarily work from a radiological perspective. 440 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:26,499 If you're getting above the normal 441 00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:29,043 background radiation exposure, we want to know. 442 00:19:29,043 --> 00:19:30,711 It's looking for stuff that you are, 443 00:19:30,711 --> 00:19:32,171 immediately, your body is in. 444 00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,090 So anything that's 445 00:19:34,090 --> 00:19:37,009 really in the window of harmful to humans, 446 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:38,427 or impactful to humans, 447 00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,221 our instrumentation sets will see. 448 00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:42,932 Okay, guys, so we'll hand these out to you guys. 449 00:19:42,932 --> 00:19:45,017 ‐Travis, there's yours. ‐Thank you, man. Thank you. 450 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:47,061 ‐Erik, here's yours. ‐TRAVIS: These dosimeters 451 00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:49,188 will work like a canary in a coal mine. 452 00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:52,191 They're gonna be very helpful in alerting us if we run into 453 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:55,069 any more sudden bursts of harmful radiation. 454 00:19:55,069 --> 00:19:58,239 We'll lead you out and escort you off the ranch. 455 00:19:58,239 --> 00:20:00,199 Thank you again. Appreciate all your time. 456 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:02,702 ‐We'll pack up our stuff and we will be ready to roll. ‐Okay, sounds great. 457 00:20:10,793 --> 00:20:13,295 THOMAS: Well, here we are, your second time on, 458 00:20:13,295 --> 00:20:16,590 day two and we're already experiencing more crazy stuff. 459 00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:19,051 Crazy, I was not expecting that at all. 460 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:22,680 I got sick and I felt weird and‐and lightheaded and dizzy. 461 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,766 The ranch has always responded, uh, to new visitors. 462 00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:27,643 I didn't expect it to be this quick, though. 463 00:20:27,643 --> 00:20:29,895 I didn't expect to see anything, so this is amazing. 464 00:20:29,895 --> 00:20:31,522 (chuckles) Doesn't surprise me, though. 465 00:20:31,522 --> 00:20:33,733 I mean, you know, where the sinkhole sits 466 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:35,776 is right up above Homestead 2, 467 00:20:35,776 --> 00:20:39,739 which has been the reported site of a lot 468 00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:42,908 of this paranormal activity that Bigelow's team reported. 469 00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:44,869 TRAVIS: Oh. 470 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,747 In 2016, 471 00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:50,416 I purchased Skinwalker Ranch from Robert Bigelow. 472 00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:54,086 Robert Bigelow is best known as the billionaire entrepreneur, 473 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:57,256 real estate developer and now aerospace entrepreneur. 474 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,134 Mr. Bigelow also had an interest 475 00:21:00,134 --> 00:21:02,261 in everything from UFOs 476 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,764 to the paranormal. 477 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,766 In the early '90s, 478 00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:09,268 Robert Bigelow bought Skinwalker Ranch. 479 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:11,604 His team conducted 480 00:21:11,604 --> 00:21:14,607 a very aggressive scientific investigation. 481 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:16,275 The Bigelow team ended up 482 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,111 having all sorts of strange things happen. 483 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:23,115 They started seeing everything from 484 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:24,617 electromagnetic anomalies 485 00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:26,494 centered around the old homesteads, 486 00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,621 cattle mutilations... 487 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,790 It involves the full gamut 488 00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:35,044 of unexplained phenomena that we continue to monitor. 489 00:21:35,044 --> 00:21:37,963 Most of what Mr. Bigelow and his team 490 00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:40,341 studied and reported on the ranch 491 00:21:40,341 --> 00:21:44,470 remains either classified or confidential 492 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:46,138 and is locked away. 493 00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:51,852 You guys got everything? 494 00:21:51,852 --> 00:21:53,145 ‐TRAVIS: Yep. ‐All right. 495 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,980 If we don't, it's a long way back. 496 00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:56,315 ‐(laughter) ‐TRAVIS: Later that day, 497 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:57,900 after we got the "all clear" 498 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,652 that the ranch was safe to explore... 499 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,487 Dragon, I guess I'll ride with you. 500 00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:03,989 ...Dragon, Jim Segala, Tom Winterton and I 501 00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:05,407 decided to do a good old‐fashioned 502 00:22:05,407 --> 00:22:06,742 stakeout near the mesa. 503 00:22:08,035 --> 00:22:10,162 From what I've observed, the mesa is pretty much 504 00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,248 ground zero for most of the strange activity 505 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:14,041 that's been happening on the ranch. 506 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:17,002 So we're all hoping that, by staying up all night, 507 00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:20,089 we'll be able to see and record firsthand 508 00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:21,757 the strange lights and glowing effects 509 00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:23,676 that people have reported seeing over the years. 510 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:24,844 This a good as spot as any. 511 00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:26,846 This is perfect‐‐ we see the mesa, 512 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:29,723 the moon's gonna be giving us some backlighting. 513 00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:31,684 Let's start grabbing stuff out and putting it up. 514 00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:38,858 Let's start hooking up the experiments. 515 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:40,693 I want the telescope up. 516 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:43,362 Get the sound system set up. 517 00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:46,365 We have a lot of diagnostic equipment. 518 00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,075 We can measure radio and microwaves, 519 00:22:48,075 --> 00:22:49,785 we can measure magnetic field, 520 00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:51,203 we can measure infrared. 521 00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:53,372 We've got a lot of different things 522 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:54,540 that we're going to use tonigt 523 00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,208 and, uh, see what we can find out. 524 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,626 Hey, what movie are we watching? 525 00:22:57,626 --> 00:22:59,253 Aliens? Predator? What? 526 00:22:59,253 --> 00:23:01,255 We're gonna hook the cameras up to it, 527 00:23:01,255 --> 00:23:02,965 so we can look at it on the big screen. 528 00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:04,300 Cool. 529 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,219 THOMAS: So, the 512 acres of the ranch 530 00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:09,722 are under 24‐hour video surveillance 531 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:13,851 by dozens of security and surveillance cameras, 532 00:23:13,851 --> 00:23:17,062 and Erik keeps track of these around the clock and is able 533 00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:19,356 to view them from the command center. 534 00:23:19,356 --> 00:23:21,275 Hey, Erik. Are you there? 535 00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:22,735 ERIK: Copy, yeah. 536 00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:23,903 Okay, so you can see us, then? 537 00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,280 I can see everything you're doing. 538 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,158 TRAVIS: Erik Bard makes sure that pretty much 539 00:23:29,158 --> 00:23:31,744 every inch of this ranch is covered by a camera somewhere. 540 00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,746 Although he can pretty much se 541 00:23:33,746 --> 00:23:36,248 everything we're doing tonight from the command center, 542 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:38,792 he won't be able to get the kind of close‐up images 543 00:23:38,792 --> 00:23:40,628 and information we can get. 544 00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:42,963 And he certainly wouldn't be able to investigate it 545 00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,423 as quickly as we can. 546 00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:47,426 (insects trilling) 547 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,387 TRAVIS: Let's bring the lights down now. 548 00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:52,890 And let's start looking at the mesa in the infrared. 549 00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:56,143 That is so cool. 550 00:23:56,143 --> 00:23:58,687 BRYANT: That is really cool. 551 00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:01,148 TRAVIS: As humans, we're only able to see light 552 00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:02,608 in a relatively narrow spectrum. 553 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:03,943 But by using an infrared camera, 554 00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:05,444 we're gonna be able to see things 555 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,112 that are further out on that spectrum 556 00:24:07,112 --> 00:24:09,448 that we otherwise might not be able to see 557 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,867 with our naked eyes. 558 00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,244 ‐That's amazing. ‐Isn't that awesome? 559 00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:15,663 ‐That's‐that's a good view right there. Look at that. ‐Wow. 560 00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:16,830 BRYANT: Yeah, that's really good view. 561 00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:19,291 Hey, Jim's got the laser. 562 00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,626 ‐There we are. ‐SEGALA: So, I'm gonna go 563 00:24:20,626 --> 00:24:22,127 walk out here with the laser. 564 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,629 TRAVIS: Yep. Yep. 565 00:24:23,629 --> 00:24:26,256 ‐SEGALA: You ready? ‐Yep. 566 00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:29,468 SEGALA: We brought a very large 567 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,804 green laser that allows us to 568 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:35,307 light up a beam all the way up to the mesa. 569 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,684 You can put the laser spot right there, 570 00:24:36,684 --> 00:24:38,060 then I'll look right at the spot. 571 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:39,311 SEGALA: I'll come out here so I don't hurt anybody. 572 00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,981 That way, we can focus our infrared cameras 573 00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:44,483 on that spot so we know exactly where we are. 574 00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:46,819 Perfect. Right there. 575 00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:48,320 THOMAS: There it is. 576 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,947 TRAVIS: Hold on. Is that...? There's two. 577 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,366 Look. 578 00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:53,450 Do that again. 579 00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:56,328 THOMAS: How is it doing that? 580 00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,707 SEGALA: When we shined 581 00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:02,334 the laser on the mesa and saw it 582 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,253 in the image of the camera, 583 00:25:04,253 --> 00:25:07,840 we also noticed there was a smaller image just above it. 584 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,800 TRAVIS: That is so weird. 585 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,510 ‐SEGALA: What the heck is that? ‐TRAVIS: You know what it is, 586 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,846 it's reflecting off of the surface. 587 00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,305 THOMAS: How is it doing that? 588 00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:23,564 The actual laser spot that is coming back 589 00:25:23,564 --> 00:25:25,357 and hitting the camera is the little one. 590 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,569 We need to go up there and look at it. 591 00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:30,487 Hey, Erik, do you copy? 592 00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:32,114 ‐I do. ‐You interested in going 593 00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:33,490 up on the mesa, 594 00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:34,867 while these guys sit back and monitor it? 595 00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:36,201 You bet. 596 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,536 Well, let's go get Erik and let's head up there. 597 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,498 BRYANT: You ready, man? 598 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:42,541 ERIK: Yep, let's do it. 599 00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:43,542 BRYANT: Okay, let's go. 600 00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:58,891 TRAVIS: Gotta turn my headlamp on. 601 00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,142 All right, let's go. 602 00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:03,103 ♪ ♪ 603 00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:11,236 TRAVIS: It's like walking on Mars or something. 604 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:14,907 The rocks and the soil of the Skinwalker Ridge mesa 605 00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:16,450 have an extremely high amount 606 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,951 of some kind of crystalline material. 607 00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:19,620 So I'm wondering 608 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:21,747 if there's a reflection happening up on the mesa 609 00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:23,582 that's causing the laser beam 610 00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:26,126 to split into two points of light instead of one. 611 00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:31,632 There are these little white disks everywhere. 612 00:26:31,632 --> 00:26:33,675 I don't know what it is. 613 00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:35,677 You are getting pretty close to that laser. 614 00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:38,013 You'll have to start making a descent. 615 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:48,440 TRAVIS: I'm gonna turn and sit right here. 616 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,817 All right? 617 00:26:49,817 --> 00:26:51,819 And now I am going to kill this light. 618 00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:57,658 All right. 619 00:26:57,658 --> 00:27:00,202 BRYANT: Does the laser seem like it lost intensity? 620 00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:03,622 TRAVIS: The laser's lost power. 621 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:06,250 Whoa, where'd that laser go? 622 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,459 TRAVIS: And it went out. 623 00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:08,502 ERIK: And it went out, just now. 624 00:27:08,502 --> 00:27:09,920 TRAVIS: Radio back to them and ask 'em 625 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,296 if they're doing something to the laser. 626 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:12,589 Hey, Travis? 627 00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:14,800 TRAVIS: Yeah, go ahead, Jim. 628 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,302 So, we're‐‐ before the light went out, 629 00:27:17,302 --> 00:27:18,470 the laser light went out, 630 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,681 you were standing exactly whee 631 00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:24,184 the main glow of the laser was 632 00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:25,519 on the screen. 633 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:26,979 TRAVIS: Really? 634 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:29,022 SEGALA: That's correct. 635 00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:30,440 I'll go back up there 636 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,067 ‐and see what's going on. ‐Hold on, guys. 637 00:27:46,456 --> 00:27:49,334 THOMAS: I just replaced the batteries in this laser. 638 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,336 There's no way that it's the batteries 639 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:52,713 that are causing it to malfunction. 640 00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:54,548 I tried everything 641 00:27:54,548 --> 00:27:56,216 to get it to come back on again, 642 00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:58,594 but it's just one of those million things 643 00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:00,345 that happens at Skinwalker Ranch. 644 00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,973 The button's pushed in and everything. 645 00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:04,683 It‐It's dead. 646 00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,852 SEGALA: Hey, Travis? 647 00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:08,520 Yeah. Go ahead, Jim. 648 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,314 SEGALA: The laser is dead. 649 00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,359 TRAVIS: I think it's crazy 650 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,861 that as soon as we got here, 651 00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:17,571 the laser went out. 652 00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:20,032 Hardly the first time something like that's happened here. 653 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,326 Unfortunately, it's typical. 654 00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:23,368 TRAVIS: All right, guys. 655 00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:25,203 I think we've seen enough here. 656 00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,539 BRYANT: Let's carefully make our way back down the ridge. 657 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,374 Carefully. 658 00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:32,377 TRAVIS: The laser experiment was inconclusive, 659 00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:35,547 but what we did discover with this experiment 660 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,549 is that the mesa is highly reflective. 661 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:40,260 Now, that's interesting, 662 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,095 especially since we've seen in the past 663 00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:44,765 the mesa seeming to glow 664 00:28:44,765 --> 00:28:50,062 and there being beams of light coming up from the mesa. 665 00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:51,605 There's something to this place, 666 00:28:51,605 --> 00:28:52,773 I just don't know what it is. 667 00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,067 Whoa, look at that. 668 00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,693 Holy crap. 669 00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:57,903 What is that? 670 00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:01,156 That reflective flickering. 671 00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:08,288 THOMAS: Hey, guys, we just noticed 672 00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:09,915 on the screen here a second ago. 673 00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:12,417 Do you see the glow? The flicker? 674 00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:13,835 Up behind there. 675 00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:15,170 TRAVIS: Yeah. 676 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:16,713 It's flickering. 677 00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:18,173 Kind of flashing behind it or something. 678 00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:20,926 What does it look like on infrared? 679 00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:26,765 TRAVIS: It looks like the whole top of the mountain is glowing. 680 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,809 BRYANT: Yeah, it's almost like the outline of it. 681 00:29:28,809 --> 00:29:29,935 TRAVIS: Wow. 682 00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:32,771 I mean, it's clearly doing something. 683 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,982 It kind of looks like, uh, the... 684 00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:36,608 (low growling) 685 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,651 Did you hear that? 686 00:29:37,651 --> 00:29:38,860 (low growling) 687 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:40,487 Yeah. 688 00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:43,156 Like a growl or something. 689 00:29:43,156 --> 00:29:44,157 Yeah. 690 00:29:46,994 --> 00:29:48,912 It was right over there. 691 00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:51,415 Right? 692 00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,128 TRAVIS: Being out here in the wilderness, it's not unusual 693 00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:58,338 to hear growls and strange noises and stuff. 694 00:29:58,338 --> 00:30:00,298 It could be from a mountain lion 695 00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,135 or a coyote or even a pack of wild dogs. 696 00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:08,473 Look, the top looks less like a silhouette now 697 00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:10,308 than it did before. 698 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,518 It's‐it's right here, right? 699 00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:13,145 Yeah. 700 00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:14,479 TRAVIS: Till I came to the ranch, 701 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:16,148 I didn't really believe the stories I'd heard 702 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:18,734 about strange lights coming off the mesa. 703 00:30:18,734 --> 00:30:21,737 Now I'm seeing this thing glow at night with my own eyes. 704 00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:23,238 This isn't just a story, 705 00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:26,533 this isn't some special effect or a hoax. 706 00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:28,660 This mesa is really glowing. 707 00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,412 You know what we should do, 708 00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:31,830 is we should scan across the mesa 709 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,373 and see if we see something else 710 00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:34,875 with the, with the camera. 711 00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,835 Well, we better hurry, 'cause the sun's gonna be up soon. 712 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:39,087 The sun is coming up soon. 713 00:30:39,087 --> 00:30:40,338 Yeah, all right. 714 00:30:40,338 --> 00:30:43,675 Well, let's do that. 715 00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:47,304 Let's go... pan to the west first. 716 00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:48,346 BRYANT: Look at that. 717 00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:49,848 THOMAS: See how the top of that's... 718 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,850 TRAVIS: Yeah, the top's glowing like crazy. Look at that. 719 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:53,351 BRYANT: It's like the whole top of the ridge 720 00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:54,686 ‐is outlined in chalk. ‐Wait, wait, wait, wait. 721 00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,688 ‐All right. ‐So... 722 00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,398 TRAVIS: Look, it's flashing. Look, it is flashing 723 00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:00,275 behind that big‐time. 724 00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:03,070 That cloud is pulsing like crazy. 725 00:31:05,947 --> 00:31:07,365 Look at that. 726 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:08,742 The interesting thing is 727 00:31:08,742 --> 00:31:12,162 is it almost looks like it's a lot more defined here 728 00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:14,372 ‐than it is with the naked eye. ‐TRAVIS: Yeah. Oh! 729 00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:15,415 Look, look. 730 00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:16,917 Did you see that? 731 00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:19,169 THOMAS: That's a definite beam. Whoa. 732 00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:21,004 It was like a beam that came right up from the ground. 733 00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:22,047 THOMAS: It's gone now. 734 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:23,381 TRAVIS: Did you guys see that? 735 00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:25,759 ‐Yeah, yeah, yeah. ‐Did you see that? 736 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,302 ‐Jim, you weren't looking. ‐BRYANT: Look, there it is again. 737 00:31:27,302 --> 00:31:29,054 THOMAS: Oh, there it is. 738 00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:30,555 TRAVIS: We're looking back and forth at the infrared camera 739 00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:32,307 and then back and forth at the mesa 740 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:36,478 to see what's going on and then we notice out of the ground, 741 00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,897 in front of the mesa, this beam comes up 742 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:41,233 through the sky and tracks something. 743 00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:43,151 ‐There it is! ‐There it is again. 744 00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:44,611 It is clearly a beam going across there. 745 00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,822 There is something clearly over the ridge. 746 00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:48,115 BRYANT: Do you think that's coming from behind? 747 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:49,533 THOMAS: What is that? 748 00:31:52,619 --> 00:31:54,996 ‐That time, did you see it sweep? ‐Well, 749 00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:59,126 and you can't see anything from looking out of here. 750 00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:00,877 It's only in infrared. 751 00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:02,712 TRAVIS: So, we're out here on the mesa, 752 00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:06,007 investigating the strange lights and the glowing effects 753 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:07,926 that other people have been reporting over the years. 754 00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:11,179 What's interesting is that we can't see these light beams 755 00:32:11,179 --> 00:32:13,515 when we look at the mesa with our naked eyes. 756 00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:16,393 We can only see them with the infrared camera. 757 00:32:16,393 --> 00:32:18,895 We should be looking in that direction 758 00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:21,064 to see what we can come up with. 759 00:32:21,064 --> 00:32:22,774 Right now while something's happening. 760 00:32:25,861 --> 00:32:27,654 BRYANT: What are we doing with this? 761 00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:29,406 SEGALA: What we're attempting to do 762 00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:33,034 is measure electromagnetic energy or frequencies. 763 00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:36,621 And what this board will allow us to do 764 00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:40,750 is to isolate to one single direction or one plane. 765 00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:43,712 TRAVIS: We need to find out if the glowing effect we can see 766 00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:46,089 on the infrared monitor is connected to any kind of RF‐‐ 767 00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:48,675 or radio frequency‐‐ radiatio. 768 00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:51,469 This experiment will help us determine the direction 769 00:32:51,469 --> 00:32:53,180 of the radiation that we're detecting now 770 00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:56,057 and maybe help us find the direction of the source. 771 00:32:56,057 --> 00:33:00,520 All right, so I would say we hold it up about waist‐high. 772 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,771 Right about‐‐ that's good. 773 00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,064 ‐Now, Jim, there you go. ‐Here. 774 00:33:03,064 --> 00:33:05,483 All right. 775 00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:07,652 Sweep. There you go, good. 776 00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,613 And keep sweeping‐‐ it starts dropping off. 777 00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:11,531 ‐Right? ‐(meter whining) 778 00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,617 TRAVIS: The TriField meters are little RF radios 779 00:33:13,617 --> 00:33:15,035 with a little antenna 780 00:33:15,035 --> 00:33:17,537 just like your FM and AM radio in your car 781 00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:19,664 or at home or wherever. It's a tuner. 782 00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,250 Yep, it's dropping, so it's not coming from that direction. 783 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:23,418 So, let's go the other way. 784 00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:24,836 Rotate the other way now. 785 00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:26,546 TRAVIS: And this thing is set to listen 786 00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:27,881 to, like, all the channels at once 787 00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:29,216 and just measure the signal. 788 00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:34,054 It's coming from right at where we saw that flash. 789 00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:36,431 Keep coming around. 790 00:33:36,431 --> 00:33:38,516 All right, now it's dropped off again. 791 00:33:38,516 --> 00:33:40,852 TRAVIS: The interesting thing is 792 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,314 when we pointed the RF meter in a certain direction 793 00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:45,941 with the reflector behind it, 794 00:33:45,941 --> 00:33:47,275 it maxed out. 795 00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:48,777 That tells us kind of the direction 796 00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,779 the big fields are coming from. 797 00:33:50,779 --> 00:33:52,530 I mean, it's coming from that direction 798 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,991 where we saw that beam. 799 00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:56,618 That's pretty significant right there. 800 00:33:56,618 --> 00:33:58,453 Well, it's at least concerning. 801 00:33:58,453 --> 00:34:00,914 We're measuring nearly ten milliwatts per meter squared. 802 00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:04,125 TRAVIS: The microwave spikes that we're reading 803 00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:06,127 are getting on the level of 804 00:34:06,127 --> 00:34:09,464 standing by the microwave a few feet with the door open, 805 00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:11,091 but it's still working. 806 00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:12,801 That's dangerous levels. 807 00:34:12,801 --> 00:34:15,011 Yeah, what was that beam that we saw? 808 00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:16,179 TRAVIS: What was that beam? 809 00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:18,390 There is something here, 810 00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:20,100 on this ranch, 811 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,395 that's broadcasting microwaves and at times, 812 00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:26,356 reached powers that's like a microwave oven. 813 00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:29,067 And it's not Wi‐Fi, it's not... 814 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,152 ‐normal transmission. ‐TRAVIS: It's not cell phones, 815 00:34:31,152 --> 00:34:33,655 it's not‐‐ yeah, it's‐it's something different. 816 00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:37,158 All of this is real unusual. 817 00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:38,576 That's... To me, it's amazing. 818 00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:39,911 (Thomas exhales) 819 00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:46,918 TRAVIS: Tom, you all right? 820 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,797 THOMAS: My head is killing me. 821 00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:52,257 ‐BRYANT: Is it? ‐Yeah, right‐right here. 822 00:34:52,257 --> 00:34:53,550 ‐BRYANT: In that spot? ‐In the exact same spot, 823 00:34:53,550 --> 00:34:55,468 my head is‐is hurting bad. 824 00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:57,387 SEGALA: Here, sit down. 825 00:34:57,387 --> 00:35:00,223 THOMAS: It just‐‐ it just, it's just right here, like, 826 00:35:00,223 --> 00:35:01,850 it's right‐right here. 827 00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:04,185 BRYANT: That's not all right. 828 00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:06,104 It's just throbbing. 829 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,274 ‐Like, that section right there. ‐Is that‐‐ is that the‐‐ 830 00:35:09,274 --> 00:35:10,525 is that the pain? 831 00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,068 SEGALA: That's the exact same spot. 832 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:13,903 THOMAS: No, it's not the same pain I felt, 833 00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:17,115 ‐but it's, like, throbbing bad. ‐It's the same spot, though. 834 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,534 Well, let's get you the heck out of here, man. 835 00:35:19,534 --> 00:35:21,620 I'm serious. 836 00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:26,458 ‐Right now. ‐Yep, yep, yep. 837 00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:29,377 BRYANT: Come on, dude. 838 00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:31,129 ‐Let's go. ‐Come on. 839 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:37,302 THOMAS: Damn it. 840 00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:39,304 BRYANT: That's nothing to (bleep) with. 841 00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:41,973 TRAVIS: I'm extremely worried about Thomas right now. 842 00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,810 I have no idea how serious this injury could be. 843 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,772 SEGALA: So, I wonder if anybody else got affected. 844 00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:50,982 TRAVIS: I don't know. 845 00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:54,027 They almost lost Thomas once out here before I got here 846 00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:55,945 and now I get here and we do an experiment. 847 00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:57,822 I would hate to think that I did something that put him 848 00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,115 in harm's way. 849 00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:00,408 SEGALA: Uh, this is serious, you know? 850 00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,202 TRAVIS: Yeah. 851 00:36:02,202 --> 00:36:04,245 I was not expecting to get that right at the end of the night. 852 00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:06,456 SEGALA: This could be life‐threatening. 853 00:36:06,456 --> 00:36:11,127 TRAVIS: He should... he should go to the emergency room, I think. 854 00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:16,299 THOMAS: Just over a little bit, like, right‐right there. 855 00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:18,927 ‐TRAVIS: Dragon? Tom? Where are you? ‐BRYANT: Yeah. 856 00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:20,512 He's in here. 857 00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:21,680 THOMAS: Right there. 858 00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:27,185 THOMAS: Does it seem like it's swelled up any? 859 00:36:29,062 --> 00:36:30,438 It's a knot? 860 00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:32,899 So, when‐‐ out there, it was right here, 861 00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:36,695 and now it's just right here. 862 00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,613 SEGALA: Yep, there is, 863 00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:40,824 there is that same fluid from last time. 864 00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:43,284 Dude, you need to go get that checked right now. 865 00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:44,369 I'm serious. 866 00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:45,912 Like, right now. 867 00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:47,747 SEGALA: I think you should call your wife. 868 00:36:47,747 --> 00:36:49,708 TRAVIS: He needs to be in the car, right now, 869 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,459 on the way to the emergency room. 870 00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:53,962 TRAVIS: We're not playing a game here. 871 00:36:53,962 --> 00:36:56,005 This happened, we saw phenomena 872 00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:57,632 and the same symptoms are occurring 873 00:36:57,632 --> 00:36:59,718 when it put him in the hospital for a week, 874 00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:02,929 and there's no reason for us to talk about it any further. 875 00:37:02,929 --> 00:37:05,098 (engine starts) 876 00:37:13,648 --> 00:37:17,235 It's bizarre. I don't know what to say about it. Bizarre. 877 00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:20,363 Bizarre is not the word. It's scary. 878 00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:22,907 I think I should probably call Brandon. 879 00:37:29,789 --> 00:37:33,126 (line ringing) 880 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:40,216 BRYANT: Hey, Brandon. 881 00:37:40,216 --> 00:37:42,469 So, I've got Erik here with me. 882 00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:44,429 It's kind of an urgent matter I wanted to talk to you about 883 00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:45,638 real quick. 884 00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,932 So, as you know, 885 00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,851 we had the team out last night. 886 00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:52,562 We were finishing up our last experiment, 887 00:37:52,562 --> 00:37:56,900 and we started picking up really heavy RF signals 888 00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,235 and things like that like we have previously. 889 00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:02,864 And, uh, all of the sudden, 890 00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:05,450 Tom Winterton... 891 00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:07,952 started saying that he had a headache 892 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,079 and then reached back to the spot on the back of his head 893 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,999 where he previously had his serious injury 894 00:38:12,999 --> 00:38:15,126 and said that he was having pain there again. 895 00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:19,964 I mean, it was apparent that we really couldn't risk things. 896 00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:23,092 So, Kaleb actually grabbed him 897 00:38:23,092 --> 00:38:26,137 and drove him to the emergency room to have more testing. 898 00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:32,644 Yeah, dude, it has me rattled as (bleep). 899 00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,231 ERIK: I think it is. 900 00:38:36,231 --> 00:38:38,274 I want to understand what's going on but not at the expense 901 00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:39,943 of more episodes like this. 902 00:38:39,943 --> 00:38:42,153 I don't know that we did anything that would trigger it. 903 00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:44,948 We shined lights on the damn mesa, we did nothing... 904 00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:46,908 ‐Yeah. ‐...that would do it. 905 00:38:46,908 --> 00:38:49,285 That's what kills me, Brandon. I‐I'm armed to the teeth 906 00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:52,288 and I feel like I might as well be carrying a flyswatter. 907 00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:57,627 I don't‐‐ I mean, it's‐it's beyond frustrating to me. 908 00:38:57,627 --> 00:39:00,004 All I know 909 00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,006 is that people are getting hurt and we've got to figure out 910 00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,008 why the hell that is happening. 911 00:39:11,641 --> 00:39:13,226 I think that's a good idea. 912 00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:15,812 I will. See you. 913 00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:22,151 BRANDON: What we've learned at Skinwalker Ranch 914 00:39:22,151 --> 00:39:25,280 is if you don't approach the ranch 915 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,034 with a degree of humility and reverence and care, 916 00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:32,078 bad things happen. 917 00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:35,164 ERIK: Did what happened to Tom happen 918 00:39:35,164 --> 00:39:36,875 as a result of an experiment? 919 00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:40,628 I think the right strategy 920 00:39:40,628 --> 00:39:43,172 is to observe better. 921 00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:47,051 BRYANT: The fact that Thomas has suffered another injury 922 00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:50,013 related to the one that almost took his life, 923 00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:52,390 it makes me put in question 924 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:55,059 if any of us should even be here anymore. 925 00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:58,521 TRAVIS: Before I came here to Skinwalker Ranch, 926 00:39:58,521 --> 00:40:01,858 I really didn't believe the stories I'd heard. 927 00:40:01,858 --> 00:40:05,737 UFOs, cattle mutilations, 928 00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:07,697 shape‐shifting animals... 929 00:40:07,697 --> 00:40:10,033 It all seemed too bizarre. 930 00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:13,244 But now that I've been here and seen things firsthand, 931 00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,080 I can't shake the feeling that something very strange 932 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,916 really is happening here. 933 00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:20,585 What's causing it? 934 00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:22,170 Where is it coming from? 935 00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:23,880 I don't know. 936 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,343 But the bigger question is this: is it dangerous? 937 00:40:28,343 --> 00:40:29,886 It's making me think: 938 00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:33,723 are we putting ourselves at risk just being here? 939 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,274 BRANDON: I wanted to get out here as soon as I could. 940 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,400 Lights on the mesa, 941 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,569 Tom's injuries‐‐ these things are real. 942 00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:48,780 BRYANT: Something's caused so much interference 943 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,116 that a $35,000 drone couldn't connect to its controls. 944 00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:53,409 It means there's a transmitter here somewhere. 945 00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:54,619 Where is this transmitter? 946 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:56,454 I get my biggest readings looking up. 947 00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:57,956 TRAVIS: It's coming from the sky. 948 00:40:57,956 --> 00:40:59,832 TOM: In the basement, there's a weird room. 949 00:40:59,832 --> 00:41:01,584 What is that? 950 00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:02,835 We need to see what's really in there. 951 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:06,839 ERIK: It could be human remains. 77736

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