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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,534 --> 00:00:02,935 NARRATOR: Coming up, Carthage was a mighty empire 2 00:00:02,937 --> 00:00:05,170 known for its powerful sailing fleet. 3 00:00:05,172 --> 00:00:07,506 When the empire fell, did these seafarers 4 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:10,809 sail to the New World long before Columbus? 5 00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:14,113 WOMAN: The Amazon Basin has been settled for 11,000 years, 6 00:00:14,115 --> 00:00:18,017 but 2,000 years ago, there was a population explosion. 7 00:00:18,019 --> 00:00:21,153 MAN: Fortresses like Kuelap are not found anywhere in America, 8 00:00:21,155 --> 00:00:23,022 but archeologists have never considered 9 00:00:23,024 --> 00:00:26,125 its origin might be found outside America. 10 00:00:26,127 --> 00:00:27,826 NARRATOR: "Carthage's Lost Warriors" 11 00:00:27,828 --> 00:00:30,129 on "Secrets of the Dead." 12 00:00:45,945 --> 00:00:48,380 "Secrets of the Dead" NARRATOR: was made possible in part" 13 00:00:48,382 --> 00:00:50,449 by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting 14 00:00:50,451 --> 00:00:53,786 and by contributions to your PBS station from... 15 00:01:01,694 --> 00:01:03,595 NARRATOR: Deep within the jungles of South America, 16 00:01:03,597 --> 00:01:06,532 a Celtic-style bronze ax is found, 17 00:01:06,534 --> 00:01:09,401 an ancient relic predating the arrival Columbus 18 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:11,203 into the New World. 19 00:01:11,205 --> 00:01:14,173 Is it possible warriors from the Old World 20 00:01:14,175 --> 00:01:17,242 left it behind 2,000 years ago 21 00:01:17,244 --> 00:01:21,180 as they journeyed as far as Peru to eventually end up 22 00:01:21,182 --> 00:01:24,583 in this fortress atop the Andes? 23 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:27,119 Professor Hans Giffhorn believes the mummies 24 00:01:27,121 --> 00:01:29,621 of the legendary Chachapoya warriors 25 00:01:29,623 --> 00:01:32,224 conceal a baffling mystery. 26 00:01:32,226 --> 00:01:34,393 [Giffhorn speaking German] 27 00:01:34,395 --> 00:01:36,095 Over the course of time, I've come across 28 00:01:36,097 --> 00:01:39,231 such a large amount of evidence from a wide variety of areas 29 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:42,634 which all points towards one theory, 30 00:01:42,636 --> 00:01:45,104 that in ancient times, people from the Old World 31 00:01:45,106 --> 00:01:48,574 reached Peru and joined forces with the Chachapoya. 32 00:02:07,393 --> 00:02:12,264 NARRATOR: By 539 B.C., Carthage, a powerful city state, 33 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:14,133 controlled much of the Mediterranean 34 00:02:14,135 --> 00:02:17,836 from the coast of North Africa. 35 00:02:17,838 --> 00:02:21,907 With its fortresslike location and secure natural harbor, 36 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:24,376 it is an important trading metropolis 37 00:02:24,378 --> 00:02:26,445 at the center of the ancient world. 38 00:02:34,354 --> 00:02:37,656 Precious resources and luxury goods arrived here 39 00:02:37,658 --> 00:02:40,759 from Carthaginian colonies in a ceaseless flow, 40 00:02:40,761 --> 00:02:44,429 laying the foundation for incredible wealth. 41 00:02:46,065 --> 00:02:48,534 The harbor at Carthage was a port of call 42 00:02:48,536 --> 00:02:52,204 for merchant vessels and warships alike. 43 00:02:53,907 --> 00:02:58,644 Warships with 170 oarsmen or more set sail from here. 44 00:02:58,646 --> 00:03:01,647 The earliest of these ships were triremes 45 00:03:01,649 --> 00:03:04,049 with 3 rows of oars, 46 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:06,718 but with each new and more powerful ship, 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,921 some believe, the Carthaginians could have sailed 48 00:03:08,923 --> 00:03:11,190 further out into the Atlantic. 49 00:03:18,331 --> 00:03:21,166 They ventured along the west coast of Africa 50 00:03:21,168 --> 00:03:25,537 as far south as Cameroon to control the trade and gold. 51 00:03:28,441 --> 00:03:33,145 They obtained copper and tin from trading colonies in Iberia, 52 00:03:33,147 --> 00:03:37,082 even voyaging to the Atlantic side of Spain. 53 00:03:37,084 --> 00:03:39,051 Even the Spanish Balearic Islands 54 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:41,720 provided their most fearsome warriors. 55 00:03:45,959 --> 00:03:49,995 For many years, Hans Giffhorn of Hildeshein University 56 00:03:49,997 --> 00:03:52,931 near Hanover, Germany, has studied the ancient history 57 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:56,134 of the Spanish islands. 58 00:03:56,136 --> 00:03:58,470 The German professor takes a keen interest 59 00:03:58,472 --> 00:04:00,305 in the ancient legends, 60 00:04:00,307 --> 00:04:03,108 valuable sources of lost knowledge. 61 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:08,880 Giffhorn does not think the Carthaginians 62 00:04:08,882 --> 00:04:12,284 could have simply vanished after their empire collapsed, 63 00:04:12,286 --> 00:04:16,321 defeated by the Romans in 146 B.C. 64 00:04:16,323 --> 00:04:18,357 He believes the survivors could have started 65 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:20,726 a new life somewhere else. 66 00:04:20,728 --> 00:04:23,395 He is convinced of this and begins searching 67 00:04:23,397 --> 00:04:26,898 for clues here on the Balearic Islands. 68 00:04:28,868 --> 00:04:30,569 GIFFHORN: Phoenicians and Carthaginians 69 00:04:30,571 --> 00:04:33,205 often journeyed to Majorca, establishing trading settlements 70 00:04:33,207 --> 00:04:37,009 as they did in the Mediterranean and further afield. 71 00:04:37,011 --> 00:04:40,545 NARRATOR: Commerce was key to Carthaginian power. 72 00:04:40,547 --> 00:04:43,215 So were the thousands of soldiers from Iberia 73 00:04:43,217 --> 00:04:45,684 who fought in the Carthaginian army. 74 00:04:45,686 --> 00:04:47,819 The stone slingers from the Balearic Islands 75 00:04:47,821 --> 00:04:50,722 were a much-feared mercenary force. 76 00:04:50,724 --> 00:04:53,592 Giffhorn finds it unlikely that all of the Carthaginians 77 00:04:53,594 --> 00:04:56,094 would have been enslaved... 78 00:05:05,138 --> 00:05:08,573 but what alternatives were open to them? 79 00:05:12,512 --> 00:05:18,016 Did they flee far across the ocean to South America? 80 00:05:18,018 --> 00:05:21,920 Are the dead at Kuelap, the mountain fortress in Peru, 81 00:05:21,922 --> 00:05:24,923 the descendants of these Celts and Carthaginians, 82 00:05:24,925 --> 00:05:26,625 as Giffhorn believes? 83 00:05:30,797 --> 00:05:33,332 The key element in Giffhorn's hypothesis 84 00:05:33,334 --> 00:05:35,667 starts at Carthage itself 85 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:38,470 on the southern coast of the Mediterranean. 86 00:05:39,972 --> 00:05:44,176 The cargo port at Carthage was open to all ships, 87 00:05:44,178 --> 00:05:46,078 but only Carthaginian warships 88 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,146 were allowed through the inner gate. 89 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:51,750 Behind this gate, secret boathouses were constructed, 90 00:05:51,752 --> 00:05:55,554 each 20 feet wide and 100 feet long, 91 00:05:55,556 --> 00:06:01,159 space for 350 warships with a crew of 100,000 men. 92 00:06:02,695 --> 00:06:07,265 On land, too, the superpower spread fear and terror. 93 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:10,569 Its war elephants were a feared weapon. 94 00:06:11,904 --> 00:06:14,272 Their powerful grip on the region 95 00:06:14,274 --> 00:06:16,475 provoked bitter resistance. 96 00:06:16,477 --> 00:06:20,912 The up-and-coming Rome soon became a dangerous rival. 97 00:06:26,652 --> 00:06:29,121 After 3 bloody wars, 98 00:06:29,123 --> 00:06:32,357 the Roman Empire was able to defeat Carthage. 99 00:06:32,359 --> 00:06:35,894 Hundreds of thousands died as the city burned. 100 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:38,563 Countless more were enslaved, 101 00:06:38,565 --> 00:06:41,666 but many must have been able to flee. 102 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:48,206 Professor Giffhorn believes that some elite seafarers 103 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:50,609 managed to escape to their trading posts 104 00:06:50,611 --> 00:06:52,978 in northern Spain. 105 00:06:55,982 --> 00:06:58,583 Here, they would have found safe harbor 106 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:00,986 in what is present-day Galicia, 107 00:07:00,988 --> 00:07:04,389 but soon, the Roman victors would occupy the city. 108 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:06,625 They would build the Tower of Hercules, 109 00:07:06,627 --> 00:07:08,193 the famous lighthouse 110 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:10,662 based on one of the 7 Wonders of the World. 111 00:07:14,567 --> 00:07:18,637 For 2,000 years, its light has shone out over the water 112 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:21,006 into the dreaded Bay of Biscay 113 00:07:21,008 --> 00:07:25,410 and toward the Atlantic sea routes to the Americas. 114 00:07:25,412 --> 00:07:27,979 During ancient times, the harbor at Coruna 115 00:07:27,981 --> 00:07:29,781 was an important staging post 116 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:32,217 for ships heading to northern shores. 117 00:07:39,692 --> 00:07:43,829 Here, seafarers from Carthage and throughout the Mediterranean 118 00:07:43,831 --> 00:07:46,965 came into contact with Celtic Iberians 119 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:48,934 who had been sailing the northern ocean 120 00:07:48,936 --> 00:07:52,838 for thousands of years. 121 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,275 In Coruna, business is conducted. 122 00:07:57,277 --> 00:07:59,211 The riches of the country are traded 123 00:07:59,213 --> 00:08:02,781 for precious goods from overseas, 124 00:08:02,783 --> 00:08:05,784 a practice that continues today among the descendents 125 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:09,287 of the Celts and the Carthaginians. 126 00:08:09,289 --> 00:08:12,624 Trade brings the world together. 127 00:08:12,626 --> 00:08:17,429 Information is passed on, all the latest news. 128 00:08:17,431 --> 00:08:20,532 [People shouting in Spanish] 129 00:08:37,917 --> 00:08:40,619 NARRATOR: Maybe there was even talk of Carthaginians 130 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:42,821 voyaging across the ocean 131 00:08:42,823 --> 00:08:45,790 as far as the distant shores of present-day Brazil. 132 00:08:50,997 --> 00:08:53,331 Even if it were theoretically possible 133 00:08:53,333 --> 00:08:55,467 for the Carthaginians to have reached Brazil, 134 00:08:55,469 --> 00:08:57,269 this doesn't indicate, by any means, 135 00:08:57,271 --> 00:08:58,904 that they really got there. 136 00:08:58,906 --> 00:09:01,673 More evidence will be required, and such evidence is found 137 00:09:01,675 --> 00:09:03,675 in the writings of ancient historians, 138 00:09:03,677 --> 00:09:06,478 such as Diodorus. 139 00:09:08,648 --> 00:09:10,849 NARRATOR: The Greek historian Diodorus 140 00:09:10,851 --> 00:09:13,251 reported in his history of the world 141 00:09:13,253 --> 00:09:16,021 that the Carthaginians had discovered paradise 142 00:09:16,023 --> 00:09:19,224 far beyond all known inhabited countries, 143 00:09:19,226 --> 00:09:21,593 a land with wild animals, 144 00:09:21,595 --> 00:09:24,229 rivers that could be navigated by ship, 145 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:26,531 and high mountains. 146 00:09:26,533 --> 00:09:28,667 As sailors of all nations did, 147 00:09:28,669 --> 00:09:31,803 they kept this discovery a secret. 148 00:09:32,939 --> 00:09:36,074 Giffhorn believes the Carthaginian refugees 149 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:40,312 and their Celtic allies set out from Spain. 150 00:09:40,314 --> 00:09:43,448 GIFFHORN: It seems to me that without the nautical skills 151 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:45,850 of the Carthaginians, it would hardly have been possible 152 00:09:45,852 --> 00:09:48,887 for the Celtic Iberians and the stone slingers of Majorca 153 00:09:48,889 --> 00:09:51,323 to cross the Atlantic. 154 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:54,926 NARRATOR: Carthaginian sea captains perfected 155 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:58,496 the nautical legacy of their Phoenician forefathers. 156 00:09:58,498 --> 00:10:00,332 They could determine their latitude 157 00:10:00,334 --> 00:10:04,235 by the length of the shadow cast by the midday sun. 158 00:10:06,372 --> 00:10:09,674 At night, they would navigate by the polar star 159 00:10:09,676 --> 00:10:11,876 in the constellation of the Little Bear, 160 00:10:11,878 --> 00:10:15,714 known as the Phoenician Star in ancient times. 161 00:10:23,656 --> 00:10:26,925 As has always been the case, ships are propelled 162 00:10:26,927 --> 00:10:28,727 by the winds and ocean currents 163 00:10:28,729 --> 00:10:31,262 to the northeastern coast of Brazil. 164 00:10:36,335 --> 00:10:39,270 Janice Jakait has also crossed the Atlantic 165 00:10:39,272 --> 00:10:41,640 entirely by herself. 166 00:10:43,676 --> 00:10:46,745 This woman from Heidelberg covered the 4,000 miles 167 00:10:46,747 --> 00:10:49,447 from southern Portugal to the Caribbean islands 168 00:10:49,449 --> 00:10:54,552 in 90 days in a high-tech rowboat 169 00:10:54,554 --> 00:10:59,190 carried byby the currents, proof that it may be possible. 170 00:11:03,963 --> 00:11:06,698 JAKAIT: Of course, it wasn't like a lake in the park. 171 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:08,500 There were some critical situations-- 172 00:11:08,502 --> 00:11:11,236 waves up to 8 or 9 meters high, 173 00:11:11,238 --> 00:11:13,605 collisions or near misses with fishing trawlers, 174 00:11:13,607 --> 00:11:16,341 and getting caught in their nets. 175 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:27,152 Naturally, the main problem is that you need fresh water 176 00:11:27,154 --> 00:11:29,320 and food. 177 00:11:29,322 --> 00:11:32,891 Of course, you're constantly exposed to the sun, the heat, 178 00:11:32,893 --> 00:11:35,827 but you're permanently soaking wet. 179 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:39,197 Once you're in the boat, you can't turn back 180 00:11:39,199 --> 00:11:42,133 and row against the current, against the wind. 181 00:11:42,135 --> 00:11:44,969 So, in other words, you just have to make it. 182 00:11:44,971 --> 00:11:48,339 Even in ancient times, large boats rowed by strong men 183 00:11:48,341 --> 00:11:50,842 must somehow have been able to do it. 184 00:11:50,844 --> 00:11:52,343 Once they were on the water, 185 00:11:52,345 --> 00:11:53,878 they would have had to get there. 186 00:11:56,082 --> 00:11:58,283 NARRATOR: Giffhorn thinks the Carthaginian ships 187 00:11:58,285 --> 00:12:00,719 could have reached the tropical coastline 188 00:12:00,721 --> 00:12:05,890 and discovered the New World 1,500 years before Columbus. 189 00:12:08,260 --> 00:12:12,464 The island of Itamaraca lies off the coast of Brazil 190 00:12:12,466 --> 00:12:15,366 and would have been an ideal landing site 191 00:12:15,368 --> 00:12:17,936 for the Carthaginians. 192 00:12:17,938 --> 00:12:20,739 In the 17th century, Dutch explorers chose 193 00:12:20,741 --> 00:12:25,009 to build Fort Orange here because it was easy to defend. 194 00:12:27,913 --> 00:12:30,281 Ceramic fragments found here 195 00:12:30,283 --> 00:12:32,617 suggest an ancient indigenous settlement 196 00:12:32,619 --> 00:12:35,954 lay underneath the fortress. 197 00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:38,656 The sand is littered with curious fragments 198 00:12:38,658 --> 00:12:40,225 of white clay. 199 00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:45,130 [Speaking Portuguese] 200 00:12:45,132 --> 00:12:47,999 These are the remains of Dutch clay pipes. 201 00:12:48,001 --> 00:12:50,702 We found more than 5,000 of them. 202 00:12:50,704 --> 00:12:54,472 They certainly smoked a lot here at Fort Orange. 203 00:12:54,474 --> 00:12:55,774 NARRATOR: Up to now, the archeologist 204 00:12:55,776 --> 00:12:58,910 has not found any traces of Carthaginians 205 00:12:58,912 --> 00:13:01,713 and little remains of the original inhabitants. 206 00:13:03,516 --> 00:13:07,185 In ancient times, exhausted seafarers 207 00:13:07,187 --> 00:13:09,954 would have found conditions here extremely difficult 208 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,123 after crossing the Atlantic. 209 00:13:12,125 --> 00:13:14,659 The archeologist is convinced of that. 210 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:21,065 In the 16th century, mercenary Hans Staden 211 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:23,535 wrote about being taken prisoner by cannibals 212 00:13:23,537 --> 00:13:25,069 on the coast of Brazil. 213 00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:30,041 He was witness to how these people 214 00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:33,144 slaughtered their enemies, cut them into pieces, 215 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:34,779 and then ate them. 216 00:13:39,752 --> 00:13:43,788 While the natives were fearsome, they were also traders, 217 00:13:43,790 --> 00:13:47,692 and that was exactly the strength of the Carthaginians. 218 00:13:47,694 --> 00:13:51,229 Could this have been their chance at survival? 219 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:01,472 There are no accounts of a transatlantic expedition 220 00:14:01,474 --> 00:14:04,742 to Brazil at any time before Columbus, 221 00:14:04,744 --> 00:14:08,613 but not far from the coast at Rio Paraiba, 222 00:14:08,615 --> 00:14:10,481 there is an archeological site 223 00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:13,051 which could be extremely significant-- 224 00:14:13,053 --> 00:14:16,554 the legendary Pedra do Inga. 225 00:14:16,556 --> 00:14:18,590 Countless figures and symbols 226 00:14:18,592 --> 00:14:20,892 have been engraved into the monolith. 227 00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:23,928 Experts are still unable to decipher their meaning. 228 00:14:36,442 --> 00:14:39,010 MAN: Here in Paraiba a very long time ago, 229 00:14:39,012 --> 00:14:41,846 the Itacotiera culture existed. 230 00:14:41,848 --> 00:14:44,849 Many engravings in stone remain from this period, 231 00:14:44,851 --> 00:14:47,852 such as here at the Rock of the Inga, 232 00:14:47,854 --> 00:14:49,854 but we don't know how these people thought 233 00:14:49,856 --> 00:14:52,090 or how they behaved. 234 00:14:52,092 --> 00:14:53,591 We simply are not able to understand 235 00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:55,426 the messages they've left. 236 00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:57,161 How were they created? 237 00:14:57,163 --> 00:14:58,730 Which people immortalized themselves 238 00:14:58,732 --> 00:15:00,498 at the Rock of the Inga? 239 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:02,367 It's a mystery. 240 00:15:02,369 --> 00:15:05,236 However, does it seem likely that the people who did this 241 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,438 were not simple natives? 242 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,407 Maybe it was a completely different culture 243 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:12,677 2,000 years ago. 244 00:15:14,613 --> 00:15:18,049 At an early stage, local archeologists noticed 245 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:20,585 that many of the petroglyphs of the Rock of the Inga 246 00:15:20,587 --> 00:15:22,420 displayed similarities with writing 247 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,089 from the Old World in classical times. 248 00:15:25,091 --> 00:15:26,658 I've studied this. 249 00:15:26,660 --> 00:15:29,260 Only similarities with individual letters were found, 250 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:31,996 not with complete words. 251 00:15:31,998 --> 00:15:34,299 However, similarities were mainly with letters 252 00:15:34,301 --> 00:15:38,002 from a Celtic Iberian alphabet. 253 00:15:39,972 --> 00:15:42,307 NARRATOR: 4 symbols engraved on the stone 254 00:15:42,309 --> 00:15:45,610 resemble letters from ancient European languages. 255 00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:50,615 We know their phonetic value, but so far, 256 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:52,917 it has not been possible to translate the engravings 257 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:55,653 into a meaningful text. 258 00:15:58,390 --> 00:16:00,692 Merchants or settlers would have hardly considered 259 00:16:00,694 --> 00:16:03,194 the Rio Paraiba a Garden of Eden. 260 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:07,865 Once up river, the tropical region 261 00:16:07,867 --> 00:16:10,034 quickly gives way to a parched hinterland 262 00:16:10,036 --> 00:16:11,869 of rock and dust. 263 00:16:19,545 --> 00:16:23,414 Hitting this dead end, any seafarer or explorer 264 00:16:23,416 --> 00:16:26,718 would have been forced to return to the Atlantic coast... 265 00:16:30,556 --> 00:16:32,924 but to the northwest, there was a river 266 00:16:32,926 --> 00:16:35,426 of dimensions that must have been beyond belief 267 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:38,496 for sailors from the Old World-- the Amazon. 268 00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:44,435 Tropical rainforests would hardly have been a new sight 269 00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:46,704 for seafarers from Carthage-- 270 00:16:46,706 --> 00:16:51,075 they could have seen similar vegetation in Africa-- 271 00:16:51,077 --> 00:16:54,679 but how would the jungle have struck their Celtic allies? 272 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:04,322 No account exists... 273 00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:10,261 and we can only imagine their first contact 274 00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:12,930 with native tribes from vivid accounts 275 00:17:12,932 --> 00:17:15,900 written 1,500 years later by explorers 276 00:17:15,902 --> 00:17:18,736 who followed Columbus into the New World. 277 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:37,021 Despite the explorers' superior weaponry, 278 00:17:37,023 --> 00:17:39,924 the natives would have had the advantage over intruders 279 00:17:39,926 --> 00:17:42,093 who didn't know the laws of the jungle. 280 00:17:45,164 --> 00:17:48,866 Spanish and Portuguese invaders told tragic stories 281 00:17:48,868 --> 00:17:53,838 of their attempt to colonize the Amazon in the 16th century. 282 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,811 To them, everything was hostile, and death lurked everywhere. 283 00:17:59,813 --> 00:18:02,246 It would have been no different for the Carthaginians 284 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:04,315 1,500 years earlier. 285 00:18:07,152 --> 00:18:10,188 As a matter of survival, explorers knew 286 00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:13,091 never to venture too far from the shelter of their ship. 287 00:18:19,231 --> 00:18:23,434 The conquistadors exchanged colorful gifts with the locals. 288 00:18:30,642 --> 00:18:34,912 For a tribal chief, perhaps a Carthaginian metal ax 289 00:18:34,914 --> 00:18:36,714 would be appropriate. 290 00:18:40,385 --> 00:18:44,322 The Portuguese established Belem, their first base, 291 00:18:44,324 --> 00:18:48,926 in 1616 close to the Amazon delta. 292 00:18:51,497 --> 00:18:54,966 From here, they would exploit the tropical wealth 293 00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:58,603 as they attempted to convert the wild heathens. 294 00:19:01,573 --> 00:19:06,677 In Belem today, archeologists are studying Indian culture. 295 00:19:06,679 --> 00:19:09,413 The Goeldi Institute has gathered evidence 296 00:19:09,415 --> 00:19:12,483 about Amazonian tribes who were neither wild 297 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:15,052 nor nonreligious. 298 00:19:17,656 --> 00:19:18,656 [Camera shutter clicks] 299 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:20,191 For thousands of years, 300 00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:23,461 there was a developed civilization here. 301 00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:25,530 [Camera shutter clicks] 302 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:28,065 They've even found a ceramic version 303 00:19:28,067 --> 00:19:32,603 of the Brazilian cult garment known as the tanga. 304 00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:33,971 [Camera shutter clicks] 305 00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:36,541 Dr. Maura da Silveira curates a collection 306 00:19:36,543 --> 00:19:39,310 of archeological treasures of the Amazon, 307 00:19:39,312 --> 00:19:42,880 everyday objects from thousands of years ago. 308 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:52,690 Special cult objects were made from precious materials. 309 00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:55,860 This valuable spearhead made from rock crystal 310 00:19:55,862 --> 00:19:59,096 is a highlight of the collection. 311 00:19:59,098 --> 00:20:01,732 Terracotta idols painted in rich colors 312 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:04,535 bear witness to the complex religious beliefs 313 00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:06,537 of the Marajoara. 314 00:20:08,507 --> 00:20:11,275 [da Silveira speaking Portuguese] 315 00:20:11,277 --> 00:20:15,079 This is a phallus symbol, a terracotta cult object 316 00:20:15,081 --> 00:20:16,814 from the Marajoara. 317 00:20:16,816 --> 00:20:18,649 The Amazonian culture at that time 318 00:20:18,651 --> 00:20:20,518 was highly developed. 319 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,753 The people lived on manmade islands 320 00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:25,523 that had been constructed in the marsh. 321 00:20:25,525 --> 00:20:28,759 It was also used as a rattle. 322 00:20:28,761 --> 00:20:31,195 [Rattling] 323 00:20:33,632 --> 00:20:36,801 NARRATOR: The very first people to excavate this area 324 00:20:36,803 --> 00:20:39,370 were staggered by the extraordinary finds 325 00:20:39,372 --> 00:20:42,840 dating back to the Marajoara civilization. 326 00:20:42,842 --> 00:20:46,410 These funeral urns painted in a variety of colors 327 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,746 are reminiscent of classical forms 328 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:50,948 found in the Mediterranean, 329 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:55,519 Greek vases with Celtic spiral patterns. 330 00:20:55,521 --> 00:20:59,790 The Amazon Basin has been settled for 11,000 years, 331 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:04,662 but for a long time, the population here was small, 332 00:21:04,664 --> 00:21:08,132 but 2,000 years ago, there was a population explosion, 333 00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:12,403 and this growth took place extremely quickly. 334 00:21:15,974 --> 00:21:19,510 NARRATOR: In 1541, according to an eyewitness, 335 00:21:19,512 --> 00:21:22,747 a Spanish expedition ventured up the Amazon 336 00:21:22,749 --> 00:21:26,150 in search of the legendary City of Gold. 337 00:21:26,152 --> 00:21:29,987 The chronicler reports that they were suddenly attacked. 338 00:21:29,989 --> 00:21:32,156 Arrows rained down upon them 339 00:21:32,158 --> 00:21:36,060 from a densely populated river settlement. 340 00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:40,831 Naked, light-skinned women were fighting on the front line. 341 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:43,534 ReReports about these fearless Amazons 342 00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:47,371 led to the river being given its present name. 343 00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:50,775 Such accounts were considered untrustworthy by many... 344 00:21:55,514 --> 00:21:58,716 but decades of archeological work 345 00:21:58,718 --> 00:22:03,354 has shown that the jungle was filled with large settlements. 346 00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:05,356 Thousands of residents were supported 347 00:22:05,358 --> 00:22:08,259 by lush fields of maize 348 00:22:08,261 --> 00:22:11,295 tended with special agricultural techniques. 349 00:22:12,831 --> 00:22:16,500 One of their plants will conquer the entire world-- 350 00:22:16,502 --> 00:22:19,136 cacao, used to make chocolate. 351 00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:31,782 Today experts have rediscovered the extensive civilization 352 00:22:31,784 --> 00:22:34,085 that once flourished along the Amazon. 353 00:22:34,087 --> 00:22:36,754 They have no doubt that a cultural revolution 354 00:22:36,756 --> 00:22:39,190 took place there 2,000 years ago. 355 00:22:39,192 --> 00:22:42,993 Ceramics found by researchers show how techniques evolved 356 00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:45,963 in leaps and bounds during that time. 357 00:22:45,965 --> 00:22:50,401 Did these new styles reflect the influence of outsiders? 358 00:22:50,403 --> 00:22:53,137 [Schaan speaking Portuguese] 359 00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:56,607 This special ceramic style is really fascinating. 360 00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:59,844 It was first developed in Marajoara. 361 00:22:59,846 --> 00:23:02,380 Funeral urns in such a range of colors 362 00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:04,982 only appeared in the Upper Amazon region 363 00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:07,284 much later than this. 364 00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:09,086 That's why I believe that the development 365 00:23:09,088 --> 00:23:10,755 began on Marajoara 366 00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:13,290 and influenced the other regions later. 367 00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:16,360 [Speaking Portuguese] 368 00:23:19,865 --> 00:23:22,400 It's often suggested that this new style 369 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:26,504 might come from outside the region. 370 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:29,707 NARRATOR: The similarities of the artifacts 371 00:23:29,709 --> 00:23:35,045 to Mediterranean objects raise a fascinating possibility. 372 00:23:35,047 --> 00:23:39,049 Could seafarers have brought new ideas from the Old World? 373 00:23:46,224 --> 00:23:48,092 For amateur archeologist Heinz Budweg, 374 00:23:48,094 --> 00:23:51,362 these artifacts can only mean one thing-- 375 00:23:51,364 --> 00:23:53,697 foreign explorers landed in Brazil 376 00:23:53,699 --> 00:23:56,367 long before Columbus-- 377 00:23:56,369 --> 00:24:01,005 and he's found more evidence-- an ancient ax. 378 00:24:04,176 --> 00:24:05,910 [Budweg speaking German] 379 00:24:05,912 --> 00:24:08,846 The merchant told me it came from Rio Guapore, 380 00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:12,216 the river that forms the border between Brazil and Bolivia, 381 00:24:12,218 --> 00:24:15,085 and he said he bought it direct from a Bolivian Indian. 382 00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:16,654 The thing has to be genuine. 383 00:24:16,656 --> 00:24:18,556 Even the wooden handle was still quite damp. 384 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,461 NARRATOR: A rich patina that developed over many years 385 00:24:23,463 --> 00:24:25,963 covers the metal ax, 386 00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:29,333 and there is a curious figure on the head of the blade. 387 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:34,138 BUDWEG: The head of a bull, 388 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:36,574 or it could perhaps be an antelope, 389 00:24:36,576 --> 00:24:38,576 but in any case, it's an animal 390 00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:40,277 that didn't exist in South America. 391 00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,616 NARRATOR: Budweg has done everything he can 392 00:24:45,618 --> 00:24:48,986 to shed light on the mysterious find from the jungle. 393 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:52,656 At the University of Sao Paulo's Institute for Geosciences, 394 00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:54,658 scientists examine the ax 395 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:57,428 using the latest laboratory technology. 396 00:24:57,430 --> 00:25:00,064 The result comes as a surprise. 397 00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:03,801 [Woman speaking Portuguese] 398 00:25:03,803 --> 00:25:08,572 The ax head is 61% copper and 39% zinc, 399 00:25:08,574 --> 00:25:12,543 and metal alloys like this didn't exist in America 400 00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:15,546 before the arrival of Europeans. 401 00:25:16,648 --> 00:25:18,849 [Budweg speaking German] 402 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,051 Another important point is that the wooden handle 403 00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:23,254 comes from the forest in the Pantanal, 404 00:25:23,256 --> 00:25:26,824 a marshy region around to Rio Paraguay, 405 00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:30,661 and this wood has been dated by scientific methods. 406 00:25:30,663 --> 00:25:34,832 It's about 1,500 years old. 407 00:25:38,737 --> 00:25:41,739 NARRATOR: Evidence points to an extensive trading network 408 00:25:41,741 --> 00:25:44,375 along the rivers of the Amazon Basin. 409 00:25:44,377 --> 00:25:46,043 Could this have been how the ax 410 00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:48,412 got to the interior of the continent? 411 00:25:52,117 --> 00:25:55,119 Did Celts and Carthaginians simply follow the river 412 00:25:55,121 --> 00:26:00,024 from the coast, heading further and further upstream? 413 00:26:00,026 --> 00:26:02,159 It has been reported that Indians escaping 414 00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:06,130 from slave traders fled as far as the Chachapoyan region. 415 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:11,869 They would have covered a distance of almost 2,500 miles 416 00:26:11,871 --> 00:26:15,539 by boat and on foot inland from the coast. 417 00:26:15,541 --> 00:26:17,408 So Giffhorn thinks it is possible 418 00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:19,877 very determined Celtic Iberians 419 00:26:19,879 --> 00:26:21,912 could have made the same journey... 420 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:31,055 but could these emigrants have made their way 421 00:26:31,057 --> 00:26:33,557 through the biggest jungle in the world 422 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,161 threatened by wild animals and unknown diseases? 423 00:26:39,698 --> 00:26:42,399 And even if that made it through the jungle, 424 00:26:42,401 --> 00:26:44,068 they would ultimately have faced 425 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:47,004 a seemingly insurmountable roadblock-- 426 00:26:47,006 --> 00:26:49,607 the Andes. 427 00:26:51,476 --> 00:26:53,510 Could the Celts and Carthaginians 428 00:26:53,512 --> 00:26:56,680 have made it as far as Kuelap, 429 00:26:56,682 --> 00:26:59,216 the giant fortress built by the Chachapoya 430 00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:02,620 in the mountains at 10,000 feet? 431 00:27:02,622 --> 00:27:05,923 This computer reconstruction reveals that, 432 00:27:05,925 --> 00:27:09,093 in terms of the mass of stone used, 433 00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:14,131 Kuelap is even bigger than the Cheops Pyramid in Egypt. 434 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:17,267 The Chachapoya were fantastic masons, 435 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:19,870 but where did they obtain the knowledge 436 00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:22,606 to build structures like this? 437 00:27:25,543 --> 00:27:28,846 For over 25 years, archeologist Warren Church 438 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:32,349 of Columbus State University has studied the Chachapoya. 439 00:27:32,351 --> 00:27:35,019 He does not see the Celtic-Carthaginian influence 440 00:27:35,021 --> 00:27:37,921 in the ruins of Kuelap as Giffhorn does. 441 00:27:37,923 --> 00:27:41,659 He sees the heritage of a powerful Andean culture. 442 00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:44,528 CHURCH: They're really best known for their architecture, 443 00:27:44,530 --> 00:27:46,063 but that is what we see now. 444 00:27:46,065 --> 00:27:48,365 That's the best-preserved thing that sits on the surface 445 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:51,101 as we, as visitors, walk around, 446 00:27:51,103 --> 00:27:53,203 and some of it is really quite spectacular. 447 00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:56,640 Some of it is monumental. It speaks power. 448 00:27:56,642 --> 00:27:59,810 NARRATOR: Peter Lerche has been living in Peru 449 00:27:59,812 --> 00:28:01,912 for more than 30 years. 450 00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:04,782 He was even mayor of the provincial capital. 451 00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:07,818 He is completely captivated by the people here, 452 00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:10,354 the living and the dead. 453 00:28:10,356 --> 00:28:13,090 LERCHE: How can we explain Kuelap? 454 00:28:13,092 --> 00:28:15,659 All the C-14 analyses we've performed so far 455 00:28:15,661 --> 00:28:17,961 suggest that it's not really very old. 456 00:28:17,963 --> 00:28:20,864 It dates from around 800 A.D. 457 00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:24,301 The exception is here at the main entrance--500 A.D. 458 00:28:24,303 --> 00:28:26,870 [Giffhorn speaking German] 459 00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:28,939 The first time I encountered Kuelap, 460 00:28:28,941 --> 00:28:30,941 I was particularly puzzled because no other fortress 461 00:28:30,943 --> 00:28:34,511 in the whole of America displays similar construction techniques, 462 00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:36,780 but I knew fortresses like this were quite common 463 00:28:36,782 --> 00:28:39,883 in the Mediterranean region during classical times. 464 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:44,121 NARRATOR: One detail in the main temple at Kuelap 465 00:28:44,123 --> 00:28:46,290 appears to support Giffhorn's theory. 466 00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:50,861 The head engraved in the wall is reminiscent 467 00:28:50,863 --> 00:28:54,331 of a gruesome practice on the other side of the Atlantic. 468 00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:56,900 The Celts would decapitate their prisoners 469 00:28:56,902 --> 00:29:01,739 and hang their heads as a proud demonstration of power. 470 00:29:01,741 --> 00:29:05,509 Did the Chachapoya also practice this ritual? 471 00:29:09,147 --> 00:29:10,647 [Giffhorn speaking German] 472 00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:13,250 The Celtic custom of using human heads as trophies 473 00:29:13,252 --> 00:29:14,651 is connected with their belief 474 00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:17,254 that the soul resides in the skull. 475 00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:20,290 That's why they treated the head as hugely important, 476 00:29:20,292 --> 00:29:23,160 and this also explains why they were masters of trepanation, 477 00:29:23,162 --> 00:29:25,395 but they weren't the only ones. 478 00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:30,033 NARRATOR: Both the Celts and the Chachapoya 479 00:29:30,035 --> 00:29:32,536 would make a hole in the skull of a sick person 480 00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:37,241 to relieve pressure on the brain and drive away evil spirits. 481 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:41,078 [Man speaking German] 482 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,214 In the case of the Chachapoya, we know they used this technique 483 00:29:44,216 --> 00:29:46,750 because it's described in Hippocratic accounts 484 00:29:46,752 --> 00:29:50,387 dating back to about 500 B.C., 485 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:53,190 and trepanation was also practiced later by the Celts, 486 00:29:53,192 --> 00:29:56,293 which we know from archeological finds in Lower Austria. 487 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:58,428 So this represents a very interesting parallel 488 00:29:58,430 --> 00:30:00,931 between the cultures. 489 00:30:02,267 --> 00:30:04,802 NARRATOR: Is the use of the same healing method 490 00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:08,138 more evidence of contact between the two cultures, 491 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,808 as Professor Giffhorn believes? 492 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,949 The decisive proof may well be hidden at Kuelap. 493 00:30:26,791 --> 00:30:29,493 CHURCH: The Chachapoya were special in the sense 494 00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:33,630 that they did these kinds of very intricate stonework. 495 00:30:33,632 --> 00:30:37,267 The building is supercharged with power, 496 00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:39,236 whatever those symbols mean, 497 00:30:39,238 --> 00:30:41,672 and they meant something and very powerful to the Chachapoya. 498 00:30:43,074 --> 00:30:46,210 NARRATOR: Who were the inhabitants of this fortress? 499 00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,645 Where did the population live? 500 00:30:48,647 --> 00:30:49,980 Peter Lerche. 501 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:53,650 LERCHE: Here we have a particularly large 502 00:30:53,652 --> 00:30:56,086 Chacha roundhouse. 503 00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:58,222 We can see holes in the walls where beams were placed 504 00:30:58,224 --> 00:31:02,960 to support the second floor to form the floor above. 505 00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:05,295 Two-story houses were required in Kuelap 506 00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:08,232 to make maximum use of the space available 507 00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:11,768 because 3,000 people lived here. 508 00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:16,273 NARRATOR: To his day, the natives of the Andean highlands 509 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:18,408 tend their fields using methods and implements 510 00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,277 handed down from their forefathers. 511 00:31:21,746 --> 00:31:24,381 Agriculture in the days of the Chachapoya 512 00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,216 would not have looked very different 513 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:28,352 in this landscape of steep slopes 514 00:31:28,354 --> 00:31:30,420 and rugged canyon walls. 515 00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:45,202 CHURCH: The Maranon Canyon is deeper and wider 516 00:31:45,204 --> 00:31:47,304 than the Grand Canyon in the United States. 517 00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:49,673 This is a hard place to live, 518 00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:53,010 and, really, it's been very hard for many archeologists 519 00:31:53,012 --> 00:31:55,445 to accept that anybody would want to live there-- 520 00:31:55,447 --> 00:31:57,080 "What are they doing here? 521 00:31:57,082 --> 00:31:58,348 Why do they want to live there?"-- 522 00:31:58,350 --> 00:31:59,616 and it sets up the mystery. 523 00:31:59,618 --> 00:32:01,752 "OK. Clearly, they didn't choose to live there." 524 00:32:04,122 --> 00:32:06,890 NARRATOR: The massive citadel of the Chachapoya 525 00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:10,861 still conceals many puzzles, but Professor Giffhorn believes 526 00:32:10,863 --> 00:32:14,932 he is close to finding solutions. 527 00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:17,334 GIFFHORN: Fortresses like Kuelap 528 00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:19,436 are not found anywhere in America, 529 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:21,271 but archeologists have never considered 530 00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:23,407 that an explanation of its origin might be found 531 00:32:23,409 --> 00:32:25,242 outside America. 532 00:32:26,678 --> 00:32:29,079 NARRATOR: On the Atlantic coast of Spain, 533 00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:31,481 the remains of a fortress city can be found 534 00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:33,717 on manmade terraces. 535 00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:35,953 Iberian Celts constructed the city 536 00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:37,988 more than 2,000 years ago, 537 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:41,858 just before or after the destruction of Carthage, 538 00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:44,928 and, just as in Kuelap, the houses were built 539 00:32:44,930 --> 00:32:47,898 on round stone foundations. 540 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:50,233 Here, too, the people who built the city 541 00:32:50,235 --> 00:32:54,004 chose an extraordinary location for protection. 542 00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:05,048 The similarities between the Celtic Iberian settlement 543 00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:06,883 in Spain 544 00:33:06,885 --> 00:33:09,186 and the mountain fortress in the Andes 545 00:33:09,188 --> 00:33:11,888 support Professor Giffhorn's theory. 546 00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:13,457 Is there a link? 547 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:23,600 The mystery can only be explained in South America. 548 00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:25,702 There is still no conclusive proof 549 00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:29,406 that Celts and Carthaginians were ever present in Peru. 550 00:33:29,408 --> 00:33:32,409 Even for the Incas, the kingdom of the Chachapoya 551 00:33:32,411 --> 00:33:34,311 was simply too remote. 552 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:40,951 Hardly any chroniclers from the Spanish colonial period 553 00:33:40,953 --> 00:33:42,953 ventured this far, either. 554 00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:50,127 Today the Chachapoya settlements are ghost towns 555 00:33:50,129 --> 00:33:52,763 hidden on steep rock faces. 556 00:33:52,765 --> 00:33:57,300 Funereal figures bear witness to their strange ancestral cult. 557 00:34:04,642 --> 00:34:07,277 Archeologists are exploring a burial site 558 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:10,313 that was erected at a dizzying height. 559 00:34:10,315 --> 00:34:13,650 The warriors buried here were headhunters, 560 00:34:13,652 --> 00:34:17,320 making them unique in the entire Andean highlands. 561 00:34:23,461 --> 00:34:26,229 German archeologist Klaus Koschmeider 562 00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:29,733 is also fascinated by the Chachapoya. 563 00:34:29,735 --> 00:34:32,135 [Koschmeider speaking German] 564 00:34:32,137 --> 00:34:34,371 Burying people in houses is actually quite normal 565 00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:36,273 for the Chachapoya. 566 00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:39,810 We find quite frequent evidence of burials in the roundhouses. 567 00:34:39,812 --> 00:34:41,745 However, this might indicate an origin 568 00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:43,814 in the Amazon Basin region 569 00:34:43,816 --> 00:34:45,315 because it's still the custom there 570 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:48,452 to bury people in houses. 571 00:34:50,621 --> 00:34:54,157 NARRATOR: The ritual sites are decorated with paintings, 572 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,326 and--despite the tropical climate, 573 00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:59,029 since they are protected by the steep rock faces-- 574 00:34:59,031 --> 00:35:02,499 they can still be made out quite clearly. 575 00:35:02,501 --> 00:35:05,068 There are figures in splendid costumes 576 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:08,872 crowned with clumps of feathers or wreaths of light. 577 00:35:11,576 --> 00:35:13,743 Another excavation also reveals 578 00:35:13,745 --> 00:35:16,279 a being with a magnificent headdress. 579 00:35:18,916 --> 00:35:21,585 In the Celtic mythology of ancient Europe, 580 00:35:21,587 --> 00:35:25,255 the god Cernnunos was depicted with similar antlers, 581 00:35:25,257 --> 00:35:27,757 as can be seen here on the silver cauldron 582 00:35:27,759 --> 00:35:30,093 of Gundestrup in Denmark. 583 00:35:38,503 --> 00:35:40,871 KOSCHMEIDER: Here, we have an extraordinary image 584 00:35:40,873 --> 00:35:44,107 of a boat with a person sitting inside it. 585 00:35:44,109 --> 00:35:47,844 On the other side is a very simple similar example. 586 00:35:50,248 --> 00:35:53,383 NARRATOR: Klaus Koschmeider also thinks the Chachapoya 587 00:35:53,385 --> 00:35:56,186 moved here from the east, although his east 588 00:35:56,188 --> 00:35:59,422 is only a few hundred miles away in the Amazon region. 589 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,228 Only the dead know the truth. 590 00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:08,398 Every storm reveals more skeletons 591 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,768 and destroys other traces of the Chachapoya. 592 00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:13,870 For days on end, the rain in the mountains 593 00:36:13,872 --> 00:36:16,506 continues without a break. 594 00:36:18,876 --> 00:36:21,378 The sources of the Amazon are transformed 595 00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,748 into raging torrents. 596 00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:28,718 In Limabamba, the people are not the only ones who have learned 597 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,055 to come to terms with these natural forces. 598 00:36:32,057 --> 00:36:35,392 Everybody makes the best of the situation 599 00:36:35,394 --> 00:36:37,794 which is likely to be repeated many times 600 00:36:37,796 --> 00:36:38,962 during the rainy season. 601 00:36:40,932 --> 00:36:43,066 CHURCH: Probably, one of the biggest concerns 602 00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:46,603 was just the severe weather-- tremendous hailstorms there, 603 00:36:46,605 --> 00:36:50,407 great rainstorms unlike any rainstorms 604 00:36:50,409 --> 00:36:52,609 I'd ever experienced anywhere in the world. 605 00:36:52,611 --> 00:36:54,578 I've seen in Chachapoyas it just seems 606 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:56,546 like the sky is absolutely falling, 607 00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:59,783 and the ground under your feet turns into liquid. 608 00:36:59,785 --> 00:37:03,320 It's, from one rainstorm to the next, 609 00:37:03,322 --> 00:37:05,922 valleys transformed with landslides. 610 00:37:05,924 --> 00:37:09,759 It's a very dynamic environment, and it makes perfect sense 611 00:37:09,761 --> 00:37:11,328 that they lived on the top of the mountain 612 00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:12,929 just for that very reason. 613 00:37:18,803 --> 00:37:20,136 NARRATOR: Several years ago, 614 00:37:20,138 --> 00:37:23,573 ethnologist Peter Lerche was alarmed. 615 00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:27,244 Grave robbers were plundering a pre-Columbian burial site, 616 00:37:27,246 --> 00:37:32,515 and many of the mummies had been left in the rain unprotected. 617 00:37:32,517 --> 00:37:36,686 With no time to lose, Lerche organized a rescue expedition, 618 00:37:36,688 --> 00:37:40,090 and they set off up the mountain from Limabamba, 619 00:37:40,092 --> 00:37:43,260 their destination-- Laguna de los Condores, 620 00:37:43,262 --> 00:37:46,196 the Lagoon of the Condors, where local farmers 621 00:37:46,198 --> 00:37:49,165 had discovered a previously unknown burial site 622 00:37:49,167 --> 00:37:54,304 at an altitude of 8,500 feet, and the team, 623 00:37:54,306 --> 00:37:56,940 headed by the German-Peruvian Lerche, 624 00:37:56,942 --> 00:37:59,175 raced to preserve it. 625 00:38:01,412 --> 00:38:03,947 The grave robbers had been busy, 626 00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:06,449 and the site was in shocking disarray. 627 00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:09,152 Many of the sarcophagi had been smashed, 628 00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:11,688 the graves devastated, and fragments 629 00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:14,524 of Chachapoya mummies scattered about. 630 00:38:20,097 --> 00:38:23,733 With the rescuers performing an emergency excavation, 631 00:38:23,735 --> 00:38:26,903 they managed to transport more than 200 mummies 632 00:38:26,905 --> 00:38:28,505 to the provincial capital. 633 00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:35,078 Today the dead from the Lagoon of the Condors 634 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,714 are kept in Limabamba. 635 00:38:37,716 --> 00:38:40,717 Their bodies were originally sewn inside sacks 636 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,286 in a crouching position. 637 00:38:45,256 --> 00:38:47,857 After the excavation, some of the mummies 638 00:38:47,859 --> 00:38:50,193 were examined at the University of Vienna. 639 00:38:52,129 --> 00:38:57,500 The remains were of people who died before the Spanish arrived. 640 00:38:57,502 --> 00:39:00,403 Surprisingly, they showed traces of diseases 641 00:39:00,405 --> 00:39:03,006 which had been assumed to arrive in South America 642 00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:05,108 with the Europeans. 643 00:39:10,314 --> 00:39:12,982 In Goettingen, Professor Schultz, 644 00:39:12,984 --> 00:39:15,885 a paleopathologist, attempts to get information 645 00:39:15,887 --> 00:39:17,854 from the remains of our ancestors 646 00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:20,256 about the illnesses they suffered from 647 00:39:20,258 --> 00:39:23,460 and the causes of their deaths. 648 00:39:23,462 --> 00:39:27,197 He's able to identify cases of tuberculosis 649 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,766 among the Chachapoya mummies. 650 00:39:32,002 --> 00:39:34,037 [Schultz speaking German] 651 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:37,006 Here, we have a lesion which is typical for tuberculosis. 652 00:39:37,008 --> 00:39:40,143 The structure is ulcerated and eaten away, 653 00:39:40,145 --> 00:39:42,345 and these typical changes in bone structure 654 00:39:42,347 --> 00:39:44,881 caused by tuberculosis were found in skeletons 655 00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:48,284 and mummies of the Chachapoya, which is, of course, 656 00:39:48,286 --> 00:39:52,222 extremely curious because we now have evidence that the disease 657 00:39:52,224 --> 00:39:54,524 was present in the Chachapoya population 658 00:39:54,526 --> 00:39:59,129 to a significant degree, even in the time before Columbus. 659 00:39:59,131 --> 00:40:00,230 [Speaking German] 660 00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:05,135 NARRATOR: Unfortunately, the evidence of tuberculosis alone 661 00:40:05,137 --> 00:40:07,904 does not prove there was transatlantic contact 662 00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:09,839 with the Chachapoya before Columbus. 663 00:40:11,308 --> 00:40:13,843 Ancient traces of the disease have also been found 664 00:40:13,845 --> 00:40:15,912 in other areas of South America. 665 00:40:19,116 --> 00:40:21,117 [Schultz speaking German] 666 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,820 The cases of tuberculosis we've so far been able to prove 667 00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:26,556 among the Chachapoya really do correspond to cases 668 00:40:26,558 --> 00:40:29,626 that we know from the classical period. 669 00:40:29,628 --> 00:40:31,761 If these people were the descendants of people 670 00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:33,663 who came from the Old World, 671 00:40:33,665 --> 00:40:35,698 that would be a possible explanation, 672 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:37,901 and we could go further, 673 00:40:37,903 --> 00:40:40,136 suggesting that maybe the disease found its way 674 00:40:40,138 --> 00:40:45,842 to the New World by this route at a relatively early stage. 675 00:40:47,745 --> 00:40:49,145 NARRATOR: Wherever the people 676 00:40:49,147 --> 00:40:51,681 who constructed Kuelap came from, 677 00:40:51,683 --> 00:40:54,784 why did they build such a massive fortress here? 678 00:40:58,322 --> 00:41:01,224 Peter Lerche suggests that Kuelap was a bulwark 679 00:41:01,226 --> 00:41:03,893 against invaders from the lowland regions 680 00:41:03,895 --> 00:41:06,729 to provide protection against neighboring tribes 681 00:41:06,731 --> 00:41:10,600 who suffered from starvation during the regular droughts. 682 00:41:10,602 --> 00:41:13,336 [Lerche speaking German] 683 00:41:13,338 --> 00:41:16,339 Archeologists have found more than 50 skeletons here 684 00:41:16,341 --> 00:41:18,508 with skulls that were smashed in. 685 00:41:20,044 --> 00:41:23,379 NARRATOR: Were the victims attackers or defenders? 686 00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:25,281 The fatal injuries could have been caused 687 00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:27,550 by axes or slingshots. 688 00:41:27,552 --> 00:41:31,321 One thing is certain-- they died violent deaths. 689 00:41:33,791 --> 00:41:37,460 CHURCH: That frontier can be, often, a place 690 00:41:37,462 --> 00:41:40,597 of lots of jockeying for position 691 00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:45,468 for who gets to trade with who, who gets the wealth, 692 00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:51,107 who gets to occupy the site at the trailhead, 693 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:55,278 who gets this much take, who gets to be the middleman, 694 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,680 and so I'm sure that there was a great deal 695 00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:01,050 of internal politicking, shuffling, squabbling, 696 00:42:01,052 --> 00:42:03,453 and probably bloodshed. 697 00:42:07,157 --> 00:42:09,125 NARRATOR: Today the administrative center 698 00:42:09,127 --> 00:42:12,095 of the province of Chachapoya deals with modern questions 699 00:42:12,097 --> 00:42:15,265 of politics and commerce... 700 00:42:15,267 --> 00:42:17,133 [Whistle blows] 701 00:42:23,741 --> 00:42:27,110 while in the nearby archeological museum, 702 00:42:27,112 --> 00:42:30,179 anthropologists are gathering important information 703 00:42:30,181 --> 00:42:34,417 about the fate of the Chachapoya and about their origin. 704 00:42:39,089 --> 00:42:42,692 [Woman speaking Spanish] 705 00:42:42,694 --> 00:42:45,161 This mummy is one of a family. 706 00:42:45,163 --> 00:42:50,500 It's a 25-year-old woman with her 6-year-old child 707 00:42:50,502 --> 00:42:52,802 and her husband. 708 00:43:00,511 --> 00:43:02,879 The holes in the skull, 709 00:43:02,881 --> 00:43:05,448 3 in the back of the head and one in the forehead, 710 00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:08,985 appear to have been made during wartime. 711 00:43:11,622 --> 00:43:14,591 NARRATOR: Again and again, they find indications 712 00:43:14,593 --> 00:43:17,360 of unnatural causes of death, 713 00:43:17,362 --> 00:43:20,229 suggestions of murder and violence. 714 00:43:21,932 --> 00:43:24,767 LERCHE: The Chachapoya had the reputation 715 00:43:24,769 --> 00:43:27,337 of being an extremely warlike people, 716 00:43:27,339 --> 00:43:31,040 and they used slingshots as their main weapon, 717 00:43:31,042 --> 00:43:33,476 both to defend themselves against attack 718 00:43:33,478 --> 00:43:34,978 and to attack their enemies. 719 00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:39,415 NARRATOR: Their weapon of choice differed completely 720 00:43:39,417 --> 00:43:42,085 from those used by other Peruvian tribes. 721 00:43:44,822 --> 00:43:48,558 Once again, the trail leads us back to the Old World, 722 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,993 to Majorca. 723 00:43:49,995 --> 00:43:52,228 Here, we find a stone slinger champion 724 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:56,532 on his way to a training session. 725 00:43:56,534 --> 00:43:59,602 Juan Caballero is the Balearics' champion 726 00:43:59,604 --> 00:44:02,438 with the record for most direct hits. 727 00:44:11,548 --> 00:44:14,517 Professor Giffhorn has brought the champion 728 00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:18,421 a reconstructed original Chachapoya slingshot from Peru. 729 00:44:18,423 --> 00:44:21,758 Las palas son identicas. 730 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,562 NARRATOR: When this is compared with a traditional slingshot 731 00:44:26,564 --> 00:44:29,732 from Majorca, Juan is startled to discover 732 00:44:29,734 --> 00:44:32,969 that the two are practically identical. 733 00:44:32,971 --> 00:44:35,405 Even the unique way of fastening the loop 734 00:44:35,407 --> 00:44:39,776 around the projectile is exactly the same. 735 00:44:39,778 --> 00:44:42,779 Juan remembers that his ancestors 736 00:44:42,781 --> 00:44:47,550 used to wrap the slingshots around their heads... 737 00:44:49,086 --> 00:44:52,989 much like the Chachapoya had proudly worn theirs, 738 00:44:52,991 --> 00:44:55,725 though now this custom has died out. 739 00:45:00,831 --> 00:45:03,833 However, in Peru's Huancas community, 740 00:45:03,835 --> 00:45:06,636 some traditions have been maintained. 741 00:45:08,572 --> 00:45:10,540 Many of the inhabitants here 742 00:45:10,542 --> 00:45:13,376 still have typical Chachapoya names, 743 00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:15,945 as has been the case for centuries. 744 00:45:15,947 --> 00:45:19,048 Clotilde Alva, a potter, is one of those 745 00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:21,984 who is proud of her legendary ancestors. 746 00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:28,958 ALVA: Pottery is an ancient tradition 747 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,761 from the time of the Chachapoya. 748 00:45:31,763 --> 00:45:35,131 It has outlasted the arrival of the Spaniards. 749 00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:38,634 CHURCH: We do know that Chachapoya 750 00:45:38,636 --> 00:45:41,504 were actually very active traders. 751 00:45:41,506 --> 00:45:43,272 They're in the perfect position of middlemen. 752 00:45:43,274 --> 00:45:44,874 Everybody wants to be a middleman. 753 00:45:44,876 --> 00:45:46,809 That's the most lucrative, really, position. 754 00:45:46,811 --> 00:45:50,813 So they had maximum exposure to all of these things, 755 00:45:50,815 --> 00:45:54,183 which really is one reason why they have 756 00:45:54,185 --> 00:45:56,285 so many different influences in their art 757 00:45:56,287 --> 00:45:59,489 and their architecture and their culture. 758 00:45:59,491 --> 00:46:01,591 They really have the best of all worlds 759 00:46:01,593 --> 00:46:03,426 at their fingertips like New York City 760 00:46:03,428 --> 00:46:07,130 in the sense that they were almost a port of trade, 761 00:46:07,132 --> 00:46:10,933 geographically speaking, very strategic. 762 00:46:10,935 --> 00:46:14,103 NARRATOR: Their women were also highly prized. 763 00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:17,940 A painting from the Inca period shows captured Chachapoya women 764 00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:21,177 with light skin and reddish blond hair. 765 00:46:21,179 --> 00:46:24,180 The Inca rulers would often choose the most beautiful girls 766 00:46:24,182 --> 00:46:26,149 for themselves. 767 00:46:26,151 --> 00:46:29,719 Even today there are blonds, like Cecilia Flores, 768 00:46:29,721 --> 00:46:31,821 who lives at the edge of a village in Huancas 769 00:46:31,823 --> 00:46:33,389 with her family. 770 00:46:38,829 --> 00:46:41,531 In appearance, it is easy to distinguish her 771 00:46:41,533 --> 00:46:44,967 from the dark-haired, brown-skinned neighbors, 772 00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:48,337 but Cecilia lives the life of a typical villager. 773 00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:54,577 Each day, she takes her husband something to eat and drink 774 00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:58,281 at his workplace, as has always been the custom. 775 00:46:58,283 --> 00:47:01,517 She can't explain why her appearance is so distinctive. 776 00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:05,822 [Flores speaking Spanish] 777 00:47:05,824 --> 00:47:09,625 I'm one of 4 children, and 3 of us have blond hair. 778 00:47:09,627 --> 00:47:11,761 Two of my cousins do, as well-- 779 00:47:11,763 --> 00:47:13,963 they live in the city of Chachapoya-- 780 00:47:13,965 --> 00:47:16,232 and also one of their daughters 781 00:47:16,234 --> 00:47:18,467 while the others are all dark-haired. 782 00:47:18,469 --> 00:47:20,369 [Speaking Spanish] 783 00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:28,444 My father couldn't explain to us why we are so blond. 784 00:47:28,446 --> 00:47:31,047 His grandparents also had hair like this. 785 00:47:31,049 --> 00:47:34,050 [Speaks Spanish] 786 00:47:34,052 --> 00:47:35,384 CHURCH: There's no statement that says 787 00:47:35,386 --> 00:47:37,153 all the Chachapoya were white. 788 00:47:37,155 --> 00:47:42,558 Cieza de Leon remarked after travels throughout Peru 789 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,794 and throughout the Indies, as they were known, 790 00:47:44,796 --> 00:47:47,763 and Panama and the areas that he walked through, 791 00:47:47,765 --> 00:47:51,300 he said, "These people, these Chachapoya, 792 00:47:51,302 --> 00:47:53,769 "are the whitest people I have seen. 793 00:47:53,771 --> 00:47:58,407 "They are very agreeable, graceful. 794 00:47:58,409 --> 00:48:00,443 "The women are beautiful 795 00:48:00,445 --> 00:48:04,413 and often taken as concubines or wives," 796 00:48:04,415 --> 00:48:06,282 and he described how they were dressed, 797 00:48:06,284 --> 00:48:08,484 sometimes with a slingshot 798 00:48:08,486 --> 00:48:11,020 wrapped around the head of the males, 799 00:48:11,022 --> 00:48:14,156 woolen clothing or cotton clothing, 800 00:48:14,158 --> 00:48:17,693 but he was clearly impressed with them 801 00:48:17,695 --> 00:48:19,829 and thought they were attractive people. 802 00:48:21,798 --> 00:48:23,733 NARRATOR: Some report there have always been 803 00:48:23,735 --> 00:48:26,035 a lot of light-skinned, blond locals 804 00:48:26,037 --> 00:48:28,971 in the village of Limabamba, although originally, 805 00:48:28,973 --> 00:48:31,941 it was mostly populated by Indians. 806 00:48:31,943 --> 00:48:35,111 Just as in Huancas, nobody has any information 807 00:48:35,113 --> 00:48:37,813 about ancestors of any sort from Europe. 808 00:48:39,917 --> 00:48:42,785 [Singing in Spanish] 809 00:48:42,787 --> 00:48:44,420 NARRATOR: A visit to an elementary school 810 00:48:44,422 --> 00:48:46,756 confirms a significant number of the children here 811 00:48:46,758 --> 00:48:49,425 have light-colored skin and blond hair. 812 00:48:51,728 --> 00:48:55,564 Now saliva samples are being taken from these children 813 00:48:55,566 --> 00:48:59,735 in order to establish their genetic fingerprint. 814 00:49:03,473 --> 00:49:06,108 In this Y-chromosome study, 815 00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:08,945 nonrelated male donors are tested, 816 00:49:08,947 --> 00:49:11,814 but Valentina also provides a sample. 817 00:49:11,816 --> 00:49:14,684 She comes from a native family, but none of her relatives 818 00:49:14,686 --> 00:49:18,921 can recall any ancestors from a non-Indian background. 819 00:49:18,923 --> 00:49:21,424 [Boy singing] 820 00:49:24,194 --> 00:49:27,730 NARRATOR: Juan has given a saliva sample, too. 821 00:49:27,732 --> 00:49:31,267 His red hair makes him an ideal test subject. 822 00:49:33,704 --> 00:49:36,038 However, as with the other pupils, 823 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,541 this could be caused by a genetic mutation 824 00:49:38,543 --> 00:49:41,510 from exclusively Indian ancestors. 825 00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:47,450 Lab tests at the University of Rotterdam 826 00:49:47,452 --> 00:49:49,652 in the Netherlands are intended to suggest 827 00:49:49,654 --> 00:49:52,021 where the blond gene may have originated. 828 00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,958 Here, an international team of experts 829 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,827 awaits the samples from Peru 830 00:49:57,829 --> 00:50:00,429 in the Molecular Genetic Institute. 831 00:50:02,766 --> 00:50:06,068 Under the supervision of Professor Kayser, 832 00:50:06,070 --> 00:50:08,371 the scientists succeed in identifying 833 00:50:08,373 --> 00:50:12,441 a special marker for hair color in the human genome. 834 00:50:12,443 --> 00:50:15,811 KAYSER: So now we have the first genetic results 835 00:50:15,813 --> 00:50:18,714 from the lab of the Indian samples, 836 00:50:18,716 --> 00:50:21,951 and the first thing we looked for is the question, 837 00:50:21,953 --> 00:50:24,153 is the red hair color of European origin, 838 00:50:24,155 --> 00:50:25,888 or is it not of European origin? 839 00:50:25,890 --> 00:50:28,991 We used DNA analysis to basically classify 840 00:50:28,993 --> 00:50:31,727 the people according to their geographic origin. 841 00:50:31,729 --> 00:50:33,763 So what we see there is that these individuals 842 00:50:33,765 --> 00:50:35,831 are of mixed ancestry. 843 00:50:35,833 --> 00:50:41,504 So we indeed see between 10% and 50% European origin, 844 00:50:41,506 --> 00:50:44,573 which does coincide with the red hair, 845 00:50:44,575 --> 00:50:47,109 but the remaining part of their genome, 846 00:50:47,111 --> 00:50:49,278 as far as we can say from our analysis, 847 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,013 is of Native American origin. 848 00:50:52,582 --> 00:50:55,184 NARRATOR: The genetic analysis also identifies 849 00:50:55,186 --> 00:50:57,853 the part of Europe that gave birth to the ancestors 850 00:50:57,855 --> 00:50:59,889 of the test person. 851 00:50:59,891 --> 00:51:03,559 Did seafarers from Europe really get as far as America 852 00:51:03,561 --> 00:51:06,462 in ancient times? 853 00:51:06,464 --> 00:51:10,032 Did they venture up the Amazon 2,000 years ago 854 00:51:10,034 --> 00:51:13,869 to reach Peru and the Chachapoya homeland? 855 00:51:13,871 --> 00:51:16,572 [Boy speaking Spanish] 856 00:51:16,574 --> 00:51:19,575 NARRATOR: The answer may lie in the genes of these children. 857 00:51:24,147 --> 00:51:26,582 KAYSER: All the evidence we have at this moment 858 00:51:26,584 --> 00:51:28,918 really points to the western part of Europe. 859 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,488 We detected a type of Y chromosome called R1b 860 00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:35,758 that has its highest frequency on the British Isles 861 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,960 and in the northern part of the Iberian Peninsula. 862 00:51:39,963 --> 00:51:42,932 NARRATOR: Coruna, once settled by the Celts, 863 00:51:42,934 --> 00:51:45,067 is in northern Spain. 864 00:51:51,374 --> 00:51:55,044 The destiny of the people here is determined by fishing 865 00:51:55,046 --> 00:51:56,779 and sea trade. 866 00:51:56,781 --> 00:51:59,615 Did the forefathers of these present-day Galecians 867 00:51:59,617 --> 00:52:02,852 take their biological and cultural legacy with them 868 00:52:02,854 --> 00:52:06,589 to Peru almost 2,000 years ago? 869 00:52:15,165 --> 00:52:18,934 Celts did have the ability to sail in the open ocean-- 870 00:52:18,936 --> 00:52:20,402 we know that, at least-- 871 00:52:25,976 --> 00:52:29,812 as did the survivors of the defeated superpower Carthage, 872 00:52:29,814 --> 00:52:33,949 who were force to flee from the Roman legions. 873 00:52:33,951 --> 00:52:35,951 These were seafarers with the courage 874 00:52:35,953 --> 00:52:38,921 of those who had nothing to lose and the desperation 875 00:52:38,923 --> 00:52:41,991 of those searching for a new home. 876 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,801 Did they leave traces of the Old World-- 877 00:52:52,803 --> 00:52:55,137 roundhouses and fortress walls... 878 00:52:59,476 --> 00:53:03,612 an ax decorated with an animal unknown to South Americans... 879 00:53:07,684 --> 00:53:11,520 funereal urns with Mediterranean patterns, 880 00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:14,757 and highly developed medical treatments? 881 00:53:14,759 --> 00:53:17,459 Opinions about these theories differ. 882 00:53:18,995 --> 00:53:21,630 CHURCH: I do not see a break in the sequence. 883 00:53:21,632 --> 00:53:23,332 I don't see a cultural turnover. 884 00:53:23,334 --> 00:53:25,234 I don't see an invasion of foreign styles, 885 00:53:25,236 --> 00:53:29,004 foreign elements, something that indicates to me, 886 00:53:29,006 --> 00:53:32,341 "Whoa, wow, everything changed right here in this date." 887 00:53:32,343 --> 00:53:34,944 Obviously because they are unique, 888 00:53:34,946 --> 00:53:37,780 they attract a lot of attention. 889 00:53:37,782 --> 00:53:39,882 NARRATOR: Hans Giffhorn is also convinced 890 00:53:39,884 --> 00:53:42,785 that his idea is correct 891 00:53:42,787 --> 00:53:46,422 and hopes for new scientific evidence. 892 00:53:46,424 --> 00:53:48,357 GIFFHORN: There's been very little work 893 00:53:48,359 --> 00:53:50,259 on exploring the Chachapoya culture. 894 00:53:50,261 --> 00:53:53,295 So I'm expecting lots of surprises. 895 00:53:55,298 --> 00:53:58,267 NARRATOR: So far, however, there are only suggestions 896 00:53:58,269 --> 00:54:01,337 that support the professor's vision, 897 00:54:01,339 --> 00:54:04,873 but as yet, no smoking gun. 898 00:54:25,562 --> 00:54:27,997 rets of the Dead" but was made possible in part 899 00:54:27,999 --> 00:54:30,065 by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting 900 00:54:30,067 --> 00:54:33,435 and by contributions to your PBS station from... 901 00:54:44,848 --> 00:54:47,049 NARRATOR: The "Secrets of the Dead" investigation 902 00:54:47,051 --> 00:54:48,617 continues online. 903 00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:51,020 For more in-depth analysis and streaming video 904 00:54:51,022 --> 00:54:55,024 of this and other episodes, visit pbs.org. 905 00:54:55,026 --> 00:54:56,325 This "Secrets of the Dead" 906 00:54:56,327 --> 00:54:58,527 episode is available on DVD 907 00:54:58,529 --> 00:55:01,230 for $24.99 plus shipping. 908 00:55:01,232 --> 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